#beta-discussion
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As a tester does the update will automatically be in the beta?
You may have to manually update the beta app, though you can set it to auto-update (TestFlight is refusing to auto-install updates for me though)
Oooh i see :0
@spark lance Sorry I’m responding here, I can’t reply in the wishlist chat for an hour, but I wanted to say that the devs are actually trying to figure out a way to deal with hackers without lighting their candles ^^ It’s a huge problem in beta so chances are there’s gonna be a solution soon. Just thought you’d wanna know! 
For Android, I've never had Google Play auto update for me. I've always had to go into the play store and manually update. (Auto updates is on also)
I've had Google auto update once, but that was because I was a day late to it. It works, but not immediately it seems
is there a plan to add a level 2 pink cape or any level 3 capes 
Ascended pink exists in beta, we just can't buy it right now. We dont know if/when it becomes available again. As for tier 3 capes, no one has mentioned anything like that so far
oh my god
thanks
also I’m not a beta player but do traveling spirits come in beta? just curious 
Yea, they do
At least currently the schedule is synced with Live, but there might be changes in schedule to meet testing purposes or they go on vacation to never be seen
Yes, TS aren't guaranteed in beta. If, for some reason the TS decides to go on hiatus in beta only but it's working in live, we don't get compensation for it missing that week.
Honestly. Unless it's something you. really wanna shove on your character. I really reccomend just. Ignoring the travelling spirits. Especially since. Well. We don't know. Things might be wiped one day.
Just making sure but that wood hexagonal thing... it still does nothing, right?
nope
and neither do the rest of the props
This... is a pot
dear god
There's more
NO
Well torch seems to be working... Unless it has additional purpose

Some people get the TS cosmetics to test for clipping with new cosmetics though. So, sometimes, for testing purposes, it's worth it to get the TS cosmetics.
The tent/canopy shields just your character from rain also. I think it should also shield other players, but we'll see if that happens in a future update. 
damn it's been quite some time since the last update, next one is gonna be juicy i can't wait 😎✨
I hope
After a lot of thinking, i decided to stop being a tester for beta. Since the iap in beta is free, it's really fun to use those item without buying it with real money(also bug hunting is fun too 👀). But since the candle system and the audio settings is finally arrived in live, i guess now i won't need to worry about grinding candles for 2 hours anymore and i also feel lonely there :( . I guess im gonna take a break from beta and enjoy my friendship in live. Whoever read this i hope you have a great day 🤗
Beta does get emptier the closer the season is to live
The whole beta section is deadzo, the update will reanimate it, but when... Noone knows
beta has felt very empty as of late. tbh i haven't been playing as much either, but that's mainly because i've been sick for a week 
not really much point in me saying anything, since the two things i want won't be moved again
even if i was pity given a adventure pass, doesn't change the fact that i needed to be pitied to even be allowed to get what i wanted
which angers me to my core
???
If you're still upset about the candle stuff in gen-chat, well, like I said the only thing to do is submit feedback. TGC can't make changes overnight.
theres always a chance it'll be moved around.
wasn't sanctuary's items moved around when it came to live lol
wrong thing egg, talking about emo hair and graceful green
Ohhh. I see.
I think every season has had items get moved around, actually.
beta is still unfinished and they've said things are still subject for reshuffling, lets just hope for the best
it doesn't really matter now, because i got a pity adventure pass, tho that won't stop me from complaining
If you have the pass then you get all the items? I don't really understand. (Sorry I hope that doesn't come off as rude.
)
I'm glad you have the pass, me, I need to do extra work to get it
yea, you can get all the items
i never have money to spend on games like ever
why are you upset about having the pass again?
so before i was given a pass, i was hoping for emo hair and graceful green to remain free
what people want from the season varies from person to person, lol
what you might not want thats locked behind an AP might be what someone else wants etc
i am not upset, i am upset that i had to be given a pass to get what i want
cuz i am willing to grind for what i want
they need to make money somehow....
but you have a pass now, so should it be all good yeah?
you beat me to that sentence lol
i am still upset that i even have to get the pass from someone else
shouldnt you be happy you had a friend who wanted to give you a pass though ??
if that happens to me, I'd be so happy I don't have to spend and be so grateful to the one who gave it to me whatever their intentions are
i should, but i am not, they shouldnt have to use their money on me for a video game
i am not worth their time
OK well. heres some good news for you: i think as a friend they just care about you! and they think you're worth it. so thats something you should think about 
they made the entire game accessible without IAP (except office) with only things that barely help out in gameplay or cosmetics for the sake of looking good costing real money
You don't need to worry about it! I gifted two of my friends a pass because I care about them. Believe me, most people aren't going to drop 10-20 bucks for people they don't care about.
but i am not worth those 20 dollars
Sounds like you need a hug, Daniel. On the bright note, appreciate your friends kindness in return
personally i give passes to friends because i want them to have it, and i think they should enjoy the game as much as possible. gifts are gifts because they come from a place of caring
Since this is beta-testing discussion, please discontinue pass purchase lamentations. return to beta topics
look! this is not a problem of being grateful or not! it's about me being a depressed bastard who thinks he isn't worth anyone's time and attention (despite trying to have all of it)
I want to play the new music sheets with ppl but there’s never ppl online or my internet just hates me 
that sounds like a problem to deal with outside the official Sky discord server. I'm sure people here want to offer you encouragement, and that's why we can't encourage self-deprecation as a topic
daniel, this might not be appropriate to bring into a public server. although i wish you the best and hope you have fun in live when the new season comes around
aaaaanyways. does anyone else feel like the updates going to drop some time in this week 
i know. i will just leave before i cause real bad problems. see you all later or whatever
you're always welcome. just keep it on topic, and remember to be nice to yourself as much as to anyone else
If you need drums, send me a QR.
if we're online together we can jam out. 
music sheets seem to align your playing w/ multiple people a lot better but im not sure if thats just my imagination
no it aligns, for sure it does. i do it sometimes
theres a lot less delay than if you weren't playing on a music sheet
i still wonder how the music and audio bugs of them vanishing and the more reacouring crashes (which all of them never happened before the update) slipped past testing
happens when things transfer to live sometimes
Musik 📈
i'm going to hold my breath until the update drops
oh yes the update.... 👀
Interestingly I only got the audio bugs in beta after the build went Live and never before
one time it half cut out while I was playing a music sheet, accidentally deleted the vid tho
same here, but its nice to have something to be excited about
it'll come when it comes.........
can i talk about something?
if its beta related, yes
speaking of update, i was actually expecting the new candle system to drop into the upcoming update (and not like, rn lol)
Y'all need air? No...?
a idea i have but controversial and i am afraid to post it in wish list
I think you misunderstood: I am going to hold my breath. I hold TGC responsible if I pass out
ill say to post it in wishlist anyway, since its not beta-related. dont worry people wont flame you or anything

On average a human can hold their breath for 3 minutes
called out... 

well here it goes

uh... well. good luck with holding your breath alex. and good luck with dealing w/ ktjn LOL
WHAAAAAAAAA
LOL
I have training scuba diving. I can hold my breath a long time...
let the holding breath commence
ktjn uses gif privileges just to own alex can we get this pinned 
Like long 8 minutes long or long another week long?
8 minutes or 8 days 
No big difference
more like 8 seconds lol
The idea i have is to be able to transfer a travelling spirit back to their original location of their season. So you can relive their memories there.
Their constellations woudl appear in a seperaete menu below the main realm's constellation.
They would cost 100 hearts and 100 eden candles each.
so 4 star season constellations would cost 400 hearts and eden candles, and 6 600 hearts and 600 eden candles
wait a second technically sky kids dont breathe so dont we all win this
WAIT SKY KIDS DON'T BREATH????
I thought skykids snored though? 
Have you visited the ice rink yet?
skates through water like its air
what you guys think?
ok TRUE.
wait but water prophet literally teaches us to breathe 
We are pretty comfortable staying underwater.... So....
we can literally walk under the ice rink in valley and submerge ourselves inside for like. forever if you want.
skykids only pretend to breathe
||WATER PROPHET IS A LIE||
my life is a lie......
Sky is a lie
Breathing is a lie
Update is a lie
well there goes the idea...
put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived daniel!
If we don’t breathe then how do we blow bubbles
or can we hold air, but don’t need it to function per se 
but i don't think it's good enough.. making ts spirits permanent? people from normal general chat didn't like it. doubt the devs would
We call it ✨logic✨
the latter i think. we can "mimic" the act of blowing and breathing but it's not like we actually have to do it...
i think sky kids are just magic
Harry Potter was Megan all along
this channel isnt for wishlist ideas that "aren't good enough", this channel is for beta-related discussion only.
please understand that its still out of topic, and #wishlist-and-ideas-archived genuinely is a better place for it - who knows, you might find people who agree with you there 
Guys.... Alex hasn't responded for a while now... Is he ok holding his breath?
i don’t see the value in the idea. what’s the benefit?
alex last posted 6 minutes ago so i guess its going well (?)
Forest Elder hammering fire intensifies
for one those areas get populated again, you can relive them at any time, you don't have to hurry up for candles and hearts, you can do it at you own pace. and probable the biggest problem people have with it, you are able to get the season's cosmetics again, maybe even the ultimate gifts if you 100% complete all constellations
lore time, nice so... our body's doesn't have organs to begin with, we're a burnt empty rock star that has fallen yeah? 
TGC wants to hear player's voices. what matters when posting to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived or the feedback channels is that it is what you want to tell TGC about your own thoughts and experiences. It isn't about what others like or don't like
I'M A ROCK STAR
(C) LADY GAGA
i- what did i just come back to?
Yeees Alex is alive
ktjn saw my challenge, so that beta update better happen soon because I'm actually holding my breath now
uhh.. out of topic channel discussions, alex trying to hold their breath until the update drops, ktjn saying "yeah sure" and the rest of us discussing whether sky kids even breathe or not
Oh I don't have to make a eulogy for Alex
ugh how did that sticker get there????
sounds sus
We thought you already hold your breath for too long... 👀🤫
can u hold ur breath....if there is no breath to hold????
that's a paradox
Is the water wet? 
what if alex is just pranking you all, do krill even need to breathe? 
do krill have mouths?
wait a goddamn second.
I need to teach skybot to destroy discord stickers 🤖
oh no giccix is right at the end of alex's discord role it says "totally a krill"....
i mean, if krill can go through walls i don't think breathing is much of a concern to them 
we've been pranked...
Pranking us???
||never going to give u up, never going to let u down ||
TAKE THAT... UNO REVERSE
I'd post a Dr Who reference for this but I'll abstain 🙂
well... the moon doesn't have things like ... water or clouds or grass or blue sky
sooo that means the beta update could come out next year for all we know 😌
wait why are so many mods showing up suddenly? 

how do you know it doesn't tho alex? have you been to the other side of the moon? 
i imagine alex trying to not breathe while the other mods basically replicate that meme of 4 guys on a couch cheering
i live here
u just can’t see it...skykids see in a different wavelength
sky kids can see 16 colors like mantis shrimp 
same
the other mods totally have a bet on how long alex can hold their breath, they're here to watch the show
We're here in case you can't hold your breath any longer 
its cuz TGC will be responsible isn't it
actually off topic fun fact but mantis shrimps don’t see more colours than we do; they just need more cones to process the same ones
This chat went from dead to chaos like nyoom
MY LIFE IS A LIE AGAIN-
'tis the life of beta
Back to dead
to be fair i dont think any of us were prepared to see ktjn busting out a gif in this chat lol
i didnt expect to see them at all
That was a lot of cyan

How you prove Sky doesn't take place in the Matrix 
schroedingers matrix
It was a common knowledge 
What is happening -
idk tbh
With all the bugs we squash in beta, Mr Smith would be after us by now. 
how do you know matrix’s real world isn’t just a bigger matrix

matrix squared
How do you know you're not the one who created matrix?
if Alex can't hold his breath anymore, the other mods have to take over
From matrix to hunger games
ah, i missed the chaos of beta chat 
We're all part of Skybot 
All this talk about Alex holding their breath and all I'm thinking about is who will adopt skybot?
us, obviously
We're simply imitating breathing 😌
Prove it
How many kids would skybot skid if skybot could skid skids
wait this is kind of hilarious actually. relay race but its holding breaths
once alex passes out it gets passed onto the next mod /s
Next valley season idea?

my brain is melting now send candles 
1,832,412 
i did not sign up for this
Hey @cosmic orchid, do you think people like me?
would the winner of the relay race be the last to finish then? 
is skybot ok
WE KNOW THE ANSWER....I REPEAT WE KNOW THE CODE.... I MEAN THE ANSWER
skybot noooo don't coldping 
The mods are always watching...
sorry but your names cyan, its been decided by the yellow name council. good luck out there! 
Hello? Is it me you're looking for? I can see it in your eyes
No
skybot is active today... hmmmmm
Skybot what's the purpose of life?
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EXACTLY.
you can do it alex! i totally didn't bet 5 winged light on you winning 
alex has lungs of steel
25 minutes and counting! 
aww thats a single krilling, thats basically nothing!
pouty 
don’t worry, skybot clones don’t need to breathe
10 winged light then 
I bet 11 winged lights
20 winged lights. Let's up the stake
a whole wedge
20 winged lights the update won't come today
google tells me 11 minutes 35 seconds is the world record for breath-holding
holy cow
alex no
Anyone,, wanna be my friend in tye beta,,
Imma just lurk here
EVERY SINGLE WINGED LIGHT I HAVE
I'll record me getting krilled over and over.
I bet it on
inviting guinness world record adjudicator
:') seriously i just started testing beta and i was pretty lonely
I think the transcript of this chat should be proof enough for Guinness, right?
alex now hold the guinness world record, lets give a round of applause! 
Breaking Guinness record? Yes
Beta updates? No
no time for productivity must break a world record 
don't let alex breaking the world record for breath holding distract you from the fact that this all began because we were waiting for beta updates
And don't forget we're being trolled
beta chat is a lie 
Beta updates is a lie
Since it shows there are no updates and it's a lie, that means updoot?
The lie is the update that is a lie. The update is beta but beta isn't live. Live is a lie. Beta is a lie. Wax is good
What if we get update on 1st April
is that, like, a good thing, or...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
The mods are always watching...
they just don't always talk because it's hard to talk while you're holding your breath
But I don't breathe when i talk
maybe you should
I think i might choke
I'm trying to talk without exhaling... Having difficulties.
Don't listen to mods. They're covering it up RIP Alex 
O right i mean I don't inhale when i talk😂 sorry
20 more minutes and I'm going to sleep without the update
It's fun to inhale while talking though. Shows exclamation in your voice.
wondering how many people tried this
go sneep 

Rest in peace
The only one who gave us hope
|| false one tho||
maybe breath-holding wasn't the right strategy after all. maybe instead i should...
HYPE RVENTILATE
Alex no- 
Alex taking the one for the team
yes, hype event til late
Beta chat is great




what in the world is beta chat today
Are we being hypnotised? 
No we are waiting for beta updates
no, you're being hypenotised
Hello guys, gals, and nonbianary pals. And welcome back to another episode of Beta Chat™️! For as you can see, carefully observe the beta tester in their natural habitat... 
The best version of itself 😌
At this point this is a group chat for mods 
beta chat has evolved into better chat
And the TGC staff too! 
Yes. group chat for mods
But if you say beta correctly, it's always been the better chat. 
What do you all want now 
is that so? you heard them guys, lets raise the slowmode to 6 hours so we can have the channel all to ourselves 😌
The update
Hugs.
my Easter Egg..
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Milkshake
updateupdateupdateupdate
maybe bullying ktjn isn't the way for me to get a beta update. maybe I should pretend not to be here
Yeah, ktjn might "trip over" the build server power cable. 
is this really bullying ktjn. i feel like on the contrary ktjn and the other mods were really excited to watch you hold for breath for the next 8 days
Translation : i got bored so I'm gonna go. Bysie daisies
😔 well in any case... beta chat how we feelin'.
I feel bad, I went to hug my friend in beta and moved right when they accepted so they hugged the air instead. 
Any explanation why the ultimate gift cape is gone?
Reminder that Season of Assembly is still under development and some items are missing from the spirits' friendship trees due to a bug. Please check back after a new build has been released! Make sure to visit #beta-known-issues for the latest information about beta-specific bugs before submitting feedback or bug reports 
i haven't gotten seasonal candles today. feeling a little burnt out. but watch, i'll be back to catching bugs left and right when this update comes out 
This is Sky beta, you don't catch bugs. The bugs catch you.
ill give you a hug uzephi 
7 more minutes till i sneep
I see you, @sick pendant, you should probably sleep, brah 
what skybot said. 
I need to close my shift skybot
Just remove your shift key, problem solved.
Update pspspspspsp
ktjn's clones are watching
Well they better stop watching and start uploading the update
6krills in trenchcoats are watching?
maybe you should take a break instead? 👀
4 more minutes
Do you think bots can think?
Build server sneeping, maybe we should do the same and wake up to a fresh build. 
maybe the ktjn clones keep getting distracted by this channel - so they can’t get around to releasing an update until we stop waiting for the update 
but uzephi it's only 9 pm here 
It's 9pm here also, but 6am comes earlier than you expect it to.
My place is 11am
1 minute
6 am is so far away though. i'll reconsider in a few hours 
Also 11am here 
It's 5am here.
12:10 am.
khe why are you up that's so early
I'm always up this early. Getting ready for work.
Done
To the sweet dreams i go
Bbye y'all see u in the new update
Because I havnt slept yet for 1,
2, because I don't wanna sleep yet.
somehow I used the prop-warp glitch to get into isle-gramps space, but high above. when I realized where I was, I did the long, LOOONG dive down to visit him. here's the last few minutes of the descent: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Side note: there's an update soon???
That was a long drop. Glad you didn't break any bones.
“soon™️” could mean next year
sigh.... Yes, the inevitable Soon™.
i wish that one skybot command that gives the big
changes to a soon™️ 
Is it just me or does Soon™ just look weird now. Like it's either me, or I'm just so tired, that the word "Soon™" looks like a different language now.
Guess I should go Sneep™.....
What is this sneep you're talking about? I've never heard about it! 
Areas, will you still be up in like 45 mins? I'll drag you to get your seasonals if you want.
Skybot, you're supposed to advocate sneep. 
He's too busy playing Sky as a krill.
aw that'd be great! yeah i usually stay up until midnight 
Okay. I'll let you know when I'm on the train 
So that's why some krill whisper eden reset to me while they chase after me. 
Yes
Beta thread: keep the discussion about beta
Also beta thread: let’s all hold our breaths! 😂🤣🤣🤣😂
Holding your breath is a pastime by many beta testers. It's how we get our best ideas to break things... Like the gremlins we are.

-Fixed issue where movement would lock up after using an expression with a looping animation.
-Players can now use charged shout while seated or lying down
-Daily Light balance pass
-Visual polish to Season of Assembly level changes
-Seasonal Spirit friendship trees should now display the correct outfit items for each spirit
-Added missing non-seasonal items to Assembly Guide's friendship tree
-Seasonal audio polish
-Friend constellation fixes
-Crash fixes
-Daily Light balance pass
Yes.
everyone say thank you alex for holding his breath
I missed this.... 🤣 wont ask
But im a happy duck
Added missing non-seasonal items to Assembly Guide's friendship tree
Ok wow
Yayy
I usually get pinged for when ktjn posts in updates channel , but inhad a feeling so checked testflight 🥳🥰
Friend constellation fixes
- Revert pls
When the update comes but you have downtime right now- 
Im@glad they listened to people in live for friend constellation
time to sit and sip tea while i wait for google to wake up
I sent fredback about it in live like twice
Lol@morning here too i just made instant coffee cause i ran out of paper filters 😢😢😢

Big sad I can’t get the assembly cape :(
Time to wait at least an hour. 
coming in hot 
I was sad i didnt get the cape one day before
what the... what is that in #beta-screenshots-videos ??? google please wake up faster
@small pebble sorry the time stop came out I just saw it in the newest update haha sorry it’s very cool
idk what it’s used for yet I was hoping someone had answers. But ig I’ll find out myself Ima beta tester after all
I must have missed one candle
what’s that pot like thing? And cushion like thingy? 

Ohhh I see
looks like they're above the quest tree?

I see you're here for the show 
always
google go faster
Want to test things but my downtime won’t let me
ktjn can you ask google to wake up please
i'm kidding
waiting for my beta to update faster 
Android Beta testers:
Google:
Ktjn: 
accurate.
.... almost halfway updated..... this wait is killing me
Google sure does get some good sneep snorp 

What is daily light balance pass?😱
i guess we'll have to find out 
meaning go out and do some CRs to see how it feels compared to live
google updated for me so i guess its time to go find out 
That moment when u just deleted beta ver cuz i don't have memory left on my phone ._.
you're right, google is up. time to test!
Hooray!
friend constellation looking much better, except for 1 star that's too close to another. but still an improvement, yay!
i think the glitch is toast nevermind 🙂
I popped into beta. First thing I did.. look at the questgiver. And woah, all the items added in 
This is so fun to see. We’re starting to move towards a more finished polished season 
Is this the update which has lots in it?
Omg Im downloading the update rn! I neeeed to see the constellations different

It’s been driving me mad
Season of backpain because so many new props
Omg I think I just saw you in the home area! @slim kayak
Android update
i'm still here if you wanna catch me 
Wait, nooo they're saying their name is Cori, I don't think it's you, exact props and sky kid with the same outfit as you though
Awe, bummer 
Now I'm embarrassed, so I left the other person in home, I hope they don't mind, they already have a friend there. Okay, goodnight Y'all 
The new items@inhave them all but still not functioning
It was me and i don't mind. Glad to have new friend.
omg the tree house
AHH omg hello! 
tgc how. its so beautiful 
This night has become chaotic, and I'm living for it
most of the studio asks the art team that all the time...they have yet to tell us.
Crash fixes. Guess I get to go and try to crash the game with text again. 
treehouse BGM has been adjusted and i can hear it better now 
Wow there's so much stuff at the treehouse now
there's just so much 
when i haven’t been able to make it past the 3rd quest 
Hello everyone, I need your help, I don't know how to get the test suit qualification invitation, I didn't find the bet-invites group
🙉 there's no beta updates announcement but i got one

if theres an update, why it didnt notif us in here- idk how to say it but yeah smth like that, i was so confused after seeing that on screenshot-video beta
/Was today's beta update on purpose
Or is that just google being speedy ? 
ktjn has to write out the update in the channel. it'll be there soon™️
but when i check on playstore, its there to say update 
yes, there is an update
but a real life person writes the message in #beta-announcements , it'll be there soon xD
Ommggg the treehouse looks amazing. The swings 
no wonder 
maybe ktjn doesn't want alex to know bout the update... ya know for bullying ktjn earlier
A swing in treehouses
What's happening? Beta updates didnt say anything and there are some new items out of the blue

Ooh, I see the word update is about 
welcome to beta 
I know beta lots of thing that sucks but that one is very unacceptable
Is it just me or is the torch slower now for recharging?
things like that happen in beta from time to time. we usually don't get back any lost currency. it's good to remember that the goal of beta is to test bugs, not to collect everything, even though it's nice to have those items.
I lost antler thanks to TGC who bugged it and now I lose another nice thing again 😦
what do you mean by unacceptable? it's literally stated in #beta-faq , you should've been aware about this if you joined beta
No compensation. Beta is for testing and finding bugs. It's not a substitute for the full Live version of the game. As such, we generally do not offer compensation when players encounter bugs, even if they affect currencies or other important account features.
not sure why people are surprised things stated in the #beta-faq are happening when you should have read it before you join beta. lol
Beta is only a testing grounds. Go in expecting currency, items, gameplay and pretty much everything to break.
Silver lining is that through things breaking here and us sending bug reports TGC can then patch them in the live game so we can all have the best experience.

Guys, does this mean that moths that join after the end of SoA can get some props at the top of the Questgiver's Tree
?
probably. that might be why they're locked behind candles too. i actually like that.
Sorry don’t expect me didn’t read the faq but I have read them already
and ya say I say this thing because I didn’t read faq????????
then why are you surprised
please read faq and readjust your expectations for beta, you're not meant to collect cosmetics for the sake of collecting cosmetics, we're meant to test the game
I'm having a bad day today and TGC just brought these things up for beta update.
This cheered me up :pCry: :pWow: :cEllieSkyLove:
whoa that's rude
I'll post in #beta-announcements shortly, the discord version is a bit longer than what appears in the app stores. I also have other responsibilities than just beta things that took precedence.
this is pretty normal from new beta testers, its perfectly valid to feel frustrated. but just know that getting annoyed/angry at TGC for something thats been forewarned isn't exactly productive
@silk cloud hey no reason to lash out at another community member like that. the number one #rules is kindness.
Looking forward to the small Easter eggs in the notes, Ktjn.
🐣
are y’all getting the tent and the bookshelf
Everything in beta is subject to change, it's not uncommon for later changes to come in that prevent people from obtaining all items from a season. We try to be extremely clear that beta is full of bugs and changes and that there are no compensations for situations that arise that cause testers to become unable to obtain all items. if this is a scenario you find frustrating, we highly recommend waiting for the Live version of the season where these things do not occur. In the event that they do, Live players are compensated for any issues.
Love, that questgiver is now so friendly.
I wanna bearhug the questgiver
you can highfive them now its so cute 😭
swings and diving boards! so much to do at the treehouse now
also now we can actually hear treehouse ost, wonderful
how much does the bookshelf cost?
ngl assembly > dreams
. really love this new season
30hearts
has anyone tried the bookshelf, what's it's function
i have found my new favorite spot in sky. and it's probably not even done yet 
I hope all the props with the same back decoration will be put in one kit! So you can take it out without replacing it. The upper limit of prop placement is raised by about three
same here aeras, its gonna be tied with ark hangout wise since I go there to talk with friends often
It beautiful to see the seasons look so good over the months and for some years
It seems the bookshelf still doesn't have a function 
only trumpet, the 2items that recharge you are functional iirc
It seems that we gained items to enable camping with friends all around sky.
spotlight works now too from what i saw in screenshots!
Tgc beautiful job the season looks so gorgeous now
did I see an updoot 
Does tent and hammock present already. And the ultimate cape?
Back then, when I was filling out questionnaire on the live version, I wrote that I wanted TGC to add a free playground, so we can play in it like an actual children, and now we can have it in the next season! It's like a dream come true 
Some of the props are hilarious especially since they dont have functionality... like the pillow.. its just a pillow 😏 lol really@curios to see how this season will turn out .. but tree house looks amaaaaZing.
Tent got an update but I'm not sure if its back in the spirit tree yet. 
Does ultimates fixed already? Proper cape
they're all there, along with some other items. seems like future players will be able to get their hands on some props after the season is over too. but they do have to play a price for them
Can we just appreciate all the amazing work TGC has done for us? They really do deserve a vacation

Omg didnt think of this.... yes now they will@be able to! 🤔
Except when this season is over and new@comers@want to do quests they will have a really@hard@time finding three people..
🤓
Omg why are they charging us 30💜for bookshelf & 50🕯️for gazebo! Why not our seasonal candles! How are we supposed to get these cosmetics now!🤧 buut I love ya tgc your da best!

Yeah it’s not in the tree, Harbin. But it’s somewhere else though! 
By grinding.. they wont have a time limit..
i'm pretty sure that they're for everyone. it's kinda of like how hearts on the tree cost candles after the season, but this time its for items. everyone gets a shot at them whenever they have time to get them
maybe we'll get to decorate a player space with the props
going camping in the realms with a tent, a few pillows, a few lamps and musical instruments would also be such a vibe
Hearts are impossible to get in beta! No one gets a note to 50
Still loading.. the pain is real
I get hearts in beta.
i've gotten both ascended navy and purple, thats over 100 hearts. its possible. plus, people have the invisible cape by saving up for months.
I find hearts pile up faster in beta than live, it's just personal experience
Well there are notes with even 120 likes on beta 
Yes true.. ooh in beta... yah in live easy.. but in beta , if i didnt get those@items@before they dissapered i wouldnt have been able to.. I literally got everything and didnt spend a single candle..
Only if you have the candles to exchange hearts with friends then yes! But that’s the only way
I know that! What I mean is it’s rare!
at least these items won't dissapear with the season. if you can't get them now, you can get them later
I have been saving up for black tier 2 when it comes back to beta... Already have near 90 up from zero after buying the bloom stuff. 
It’s definitely cause of how easy it is to get candles in beta — seasonal candle conversions can give you A LOT
can anyone give me all the season spirits prices?
So some props still have no function
nah, charts/price list are discouraged because they could change when it hits live so i'd suggest to just wait till it gets on live
don't underestimate sky's japanese twitter fandom, they churn out those price charts within minutes of the season hitting live 
it's only a few more weeks until it should hit live. not that long of a wait 
i wanna get ultimate reward cape on beta, but im not suri if i can
each day you get 25 seasonals so you should be able to make it
can i get it if i have 3 seasonal hearts and 10 seasonal candles?
those jp players made a website for sky
all tutorials and info are well organised
charts and tutorials are discouraged in beta, not in live
Being able to hug the assembly guide is the absolute best quality of life update so far. I propose being able to hug past guides as well.
would be nice
I wonder what the pot will do, and that cushion type thingy lol
I’m hoping the cushion,,,, we’ll be able to throw. Like a pillow fight 
Also, now i wonder how will the huge top cover and swings be implemented, maybe one with the canopy quest and one with the toy quest
I am so confused by this update. 
l am putting a cushion under random people's head while they are laying down
I love this cushion
Aw that’s sweet! I need to try that later. Just put it down and try to position my skykids head on it

Omg update
there's the ping, time for the rest of beta to wake up 
Wut? Daylight Balance pass?
The chevron system
the new daily light system. it means we have to candle run again 
u didn't have to say it out loud aeras 
Watch me attempt to full run beta and then end up getting distracted by friends/live

At first glance I dare assume it means adjustment to chevron system 👀
”Added missing non-seasonal items to Assembly Guide’s friendship tree”

Did the back items move to QG so that anyone can get them after the season ends? 🙂 That is a really nice gesture.
yeah, i thought so too blep. everyone can get some cool props. we even have another recharging item there!
new update isn't gonna address, ultimate items issues?
Anyone else's android update is suspiciously fast?
saw a pot
Mind: pspspspspspspspsps time to summon le butterflies
Lmao for a sec it occured ti me maybe an IAP which can make us skip trial or something lmaooo
address them how? they seem to be all there now.
pot currently doesn't do anything yet. the questgiver forgot to catch butterflies for you
I still haven’t unlocked the last quest oof
trumpet 🎺 is a final Ultimate now?
Looks like it, yes.
I HOPE NOT 
Oh hey now that we need to cr to test the updated DL system I guess I can buy hearts to get the props 
omg the friends cons ui is soooo much better now 
and what about the new cape? lol there is no place for it?😅
What is the pots function please?
The props not doing anything is driving me nuts.
Ikr! That would suck real bad!

we gotta wait for another update for props it seems. for now, go check out the treehouse! there's so much to do there!
wooow
what does daily light pass meant? is it a separate pass for candles? like ap😅
Whoever is non-beta tester here, welcome! 
No they went and adjusted the Daily light system 
oh no, the daily light pass probably meant changes to the chevron system
adjusted how any specifics? 😅
i mean isn't it working fine already?
Here we go again -👄-
They're all there: mask, hat, bugle and cape.
No props functions?!?😭
Iirc it wasn’t fully balanced yet, I can’t download the update bc of my potato wifi so I’ll have to cr later 
they might have adjusted the rates? welp, only one way to find out 
I thinks that’s for us to test! Well see what changed
or maybe not Idk
How do we get the cape when there are no more hearts to attain?
You don't.
I don’t think we can
you can't then. sometimes these things happen in beta.
You cannot if you already spent your hearts
yeah potato connection here too😭
I'm just curious and asking so many questions, kindly excuse me 😅
Assembly qg friendship tree
soo quest giver is showing 4 ultimate items?
If you already bought and used all the hearts already then you can’t, some people were behind so they can buy them, or they had the horn from when it was on a spirit
The cushions, the pot, the tent and fire pot thing 
How much does the bookshelf worth now? I couldn’t see it 
30 hearts
bookshelf was 30 hearts, and is at the very top of the QG tree
Is the homespace expansion permanent

Wow
There is another editing time for the infographic 
30... hearts?
Thanks!
5th Edit 
all the best🙈

30 regular hearts???
Doesn't the ult cape need seasonal hearts? Cuz i have to buy the instrument first, and I only have two seasonal hearts.....
What items are free now?
Each beta update seems to bring more and more lag and overheating issues, by the time this season’s over in beta I won’t even have a phone left 
Some items are free, some are not. I'm half expecting the free ones to have a price later on
But but wasn't it seasonal? Then why will it require regular hearts?
these props being available even after season ends is just amazing tgc, many thanks
quest givers stay behind after the season, the items on the qg are new base game items available for everyone
Handhold works in forest transitions again!
just ran all transitions with my GF and we stayed holding hands the whole way.
Most likely for future players. Kinda like how hearts on the tree cost 3 candles after a season
The others seasonal gides do the same thing???
soo all the items!? will be available?
the update notes mention this line:
Added missing non-seasonal items to Assembly Guide’s friendship tree
the impression i'm getting from this is that those items aren't bound only to the season, and will still be available after the season ends for future players
I would like to ask what to do if the hearts of the last two seasons after this update are not available😭😭😭😭
No, some are still part of the season. We just have double now, and half of them seem to be available after the season is over
ohh i see 
qg after enchantment are in their areas, items other than seasonal hearts and ults on the qg is new though
It is possible its right!
Omg I can't wait for season to begin and to confirm this!
Well using piggyback still breaking
Sometimes there's a downside of being in a rush to unlock all seasonal items on beta.
If you bought the canopy or bookshelf before this update, you don't have to pay candles or hearts for it a second time. 
I agree with @vapid briar ive done it before. Tho im still carefull
one step at a time
So the final graduation cloak can't be obtained?😭😭😭
Its been a years piggy back still break after enter new area 😂
it can if you got the right things at the right time
if you bought one of the ultimates while they still cost 3 hearts, yeah, you won't be able to get the cloak (unless you got it back then)
I guess you can’t exactly call that huge thing a tent anymore
or at least from what I see from screenshots it looks huge 
We tried to encourage people to focus on quests and prop items, and wait until things were more settled with the outfit items, but we know new shinies tend to be irresistable.
if it was easy it would have been fixed, so we just gotta wait 
😭😭😭😭

Excuse me, what does "daily light balance pass" mean?
"new shinies" and "moths to a flame" go hand in hand with beta testing 
The whole game is about following the shiny. We just gotta get everything as soon as we see them 
Its quite tempting really to always be the first. But the game in entirety dont teach us that way. After all theres no special price price for being always first. But patience does as well as being happy with what you could only afford. Just a saying
You can always get the cloak in Live where there are..fewer
..bugs
i see what looks to be butterfly jar icon? in Assembly guide tree?
few does not mean none rip yes less bugs in live 
Are the props in the quest givers constellation planned to be free? The prices are bit too high
Another plus, no crashing yet when trying to type messages. Will try and crash more later.
The jar is so small
it's cute
to put things in perspective though, it's good in general just to be prepared not to get everything: we can get a late tree shuffle like we did this time, or the testing for the season can still end early as seen with previous beta seasons
hopefully a lot of the big obnoxious crashes are resolved
But to be honest i have cape obsessions. I can forget everything just to take a snapshot of capes
It would be really awesome to be able to carry butterflies in a jar

I think there was a fan art about that back then
Wearing the ultimate cape is reserved for the live version
I haven't crashed this build yet, which is good
will continue to be on the lookout
Forest handhold breaking was one of the worst issues. I’m quite happy that they are fixed now!

I can't understand. If the seasonal hearts are 6, and the ultimate gifts are 4 items. Then how can each item costs 2 seasonal hearts?
2 of them cost 1 heart
they dont, 2 cost 1 heart and 2 costs 2 hearts making for a total of 6
two cost 1 seasonal heart, the rest cost 2
1+1+2+2
So when I bought them they was costing 2 hearts..
Between the jar, the pot with fire and the spotlight I'm sure I will be endlessly confused when changing in the closet. 
Is there anyone who knows about this?

Too much props for this season

changes have been made to the daily light chevron system
I think it’s referring to the candle wax system with the chevrons!
My closet is so cluttered now. And I don't even have as many items as I do in live. But oh well. More stuff for me
Well, not all the props are seasonal now...so, but yeah, there are a lot of items!
what if they gave us a closet this season to put in our closet 
Does that Mean the props will be available after the season ends?
i hope in the future the closet gets organized. too many items
I still don’t like how all props look the same on your back
I’d like to tell what I’m carrying when I’m wearing em too
bets on the future feature having something to do with all these props 
What does "daily light balance pass" mean?
so this time will have 5 ult gift? 🧐🧐🧐
I mean technically the seasonal item closet from the qg is in the closet with the instruments and all right?
my mind is frying
I'm still waiting for my emotes menu to be reorganized 
Shouting while seating or lying down is one thing we didn't know we need
the trumpet didnt count as ult gift?
The spotlight now have a light
It now does
Mask, pot, trumpet, cape. 4
that new permanent feature ktjn mentioned back then........ i dont think its in this update but we'll have to see 
ahh thanks coz i count the pendant also thats why i thought 5 hahaha
I’ll keep storing my friends in bookshelf for use since it’s not solid for others yet 
I bought the pot and rag cape back when they were both 3 seasonal hearts each and then they update it and add the mask and I don't have enough hearts for it
I know it's beta but still...
Hope trumpet will be removed from the ultimates Let the scout mysician do the task for scout calls.
What does "daily light balance pass" mean? pls explain 😭😭😭😭😭
Oh man, i can't try bookshelf. I only have 14 hearts 
its what they call the daily light system, thats all
i found one lentern at forest in purple color i guess its a bug
Ik the system ... But any changes?
well yea there are changes lol but we have to test to find out what those changes are 
Hi everyone
the ult cape is back but I don't have any seasonal hearts anymore cos I gave them away in the update before for the ult trumpet and ult mask 😭 what can I do?
We'll just have to test it out and see. 🙂
nothing
Ayo they adding MURALS?????
just wondering, is the backpack design for the seasonal instruments the final design?
I think the backpack makes sense within the story of Assembly.
"balance pass" is a phrase indicating changes were made. wouldn't make a lot of sense to add it as a change if no changes were made.
i'll edit the update post to be more clear
I'm going to change it at the end of the graduation ceremony next season😭😭

Subject to change ... Mostly minor changes ... When arriving to live
and still got no new WL? 🤔 just for confirmation before i got prank again by my friend.
We got even a bigger swing holy krill

if you dont see it written in #beta-announcements then no
Okis dokis
Yuh they added chusion too? For what tho? Can we sleep on it?
👁️👄👁️ so- i'm wondering if ap holder will be mad at free items from qg
Whats the free items btw?
tbh i dont see why people would lol... AP items are still different from non-seasonals after all
is it just me, or is "Daily Light pass" just a typo of "Daily Light patch" lmao
We can hug the qg now??? 😳
no, pass is correct xD it is a pretty niche term to use though
It the greatest thing- Imloveit
the phrasing means they made another "pass" (looked over and made changes to) the Daily Light system -- specifically, a pass about its balancing
aH, hopefully it doesnt cause too much confusion then qwq
The shelf, lamp, cushion, the bottle, the tent
Whats the cushion do tho-
Ktjin again typing in beta updates
I gotta say I am quite happy that friend constellation is not exceeding my smol phone’s screen anymore 
Editing the update message for clarification
Do you think i'm going to sit on mud in forest
i need a cushion. Tbh those items seems like they will be there with no use 
Please don't point out when someone is typing. It's a bit creepy... 😮
@trail pivot to answer your question in #beta-screenshots-videos , it’s beta, it’s always prone to change. And things could get moved around quite a bit
thats very confusing- i lover it when it was for seadon candles better-
even tho im just mad at the hearts-
This way it's more fair for everyone, since this season brings a lot of new props.
Ktjin, here's a funny idea:
Automate a bot for you to type the letter "a" every 3 seconds, then delete it every 3 seconds. Leave it on in the #beta-announcements channel for a few hours, and watch everyone here go wild MUAHAHAHAH
good point i well do that and hope it well be for seasonal candles better 
Have yall checked out the diving platforms and the pool, i'm moving to the tree house 
I'm still having breakfast, I haven't got past Home 
ktjn writing in beta-updates :O
8xxmb update when i don't have wifi 
some cost regular candles because they will stay there with the quest giver even when the season has ended so any new players later on also get the chance to have some of the new props. (no adventure pass needed)
the one that cost hearts are ultimate gifts (adventure pass is needed)
Where
Tree house went from 0 to 100 with this update 
Btw the lamp works now and is as useful as me which is not much
Yes looks like forest map
o wait I think I mistakenly thought you meant seasonal hearts. my bad
....that don't look fair to me- i mean its a seasonal thing i meant the props that really weird they never did that before
well, it is a new thing then
Isn't it fair that more people can get these types of new items? I think it makes sense. There are other seasonally exclusive things already.
ayyo never knew some players would have to stay afk from collecting waxes from the tree
Omg, that’s a massive change for players who afk while their friends cr 👀
Essentially, this is like the Ark update: you get access to the shops once you finish all the quests. In Assembly you get access to a lot of useful props.
Checkmate to my laziness to cr in #beta-announcements
does the new afk flagging method affect those just tag along during cr? 
I- what- how- afk- 👁️👄👁️ why
guess we should go and find out 
time to quit game 
yall nappin under the tree 
That’s a good question
i need answers to this too
now new players also have the options to purchase props other than hearts from seasonal quest giver which I think is a good change!
I believe so. Ktjn said you have to interact with the screen in some way to show that you’re not afk
What about afk while doing cr, or being dragged during cr?
Please tell me this isn’t the end of cr ubers. 
hold up but the afk thing is stupid kinda-
I think it’ll affect you if you’re AFK, but not if you’re there when you’re tagging along and moving the camera
Aw but the only time I do go afk is under the tree
we already have the normal spirit with props-
I mean it supposed to be a seasonal thing?! Why did i buy the pass for then?
it supposed to be with the spirit not with the questgiver IM TALKING ABOUT THE PROPS and well i don't thing they well stay till the season finish im just worrier about the ppl who could not make it to 30 hearts
And thats impossible don't thing they well stay forever
How does me going afk affects others? 
Ktjn explain
hmm i know some people that go to forest and lay there just to listen to the rain to help them sleep though 🤔
Ahahaha, we can dive! There is an icon that makes you dive into a pool!
they'll stay there forever just like how the QGs in enchanment/sanct/prophecy/dreams stay there forever lol
I'm not sure bout this or everything
My brain is just too confused
It doesn't.....?
pls dont effect on cr 
Really forcing us to just be social and interactive at every given moment in this game huh.
The post in #beta-announcements explains the reason for the change
It was just for the days of bloom, and they change the whole thing cause of it?
The best answer to any "does this x" is by testing it in beta! No one will have the answers here, so make sure to update those games when you can and test it out 
no no! I mean the props that is selling look at #beta-screenshots-videos you got me wrong! Not the questgiver! Or the decor things
Because it's a social and not an idle game
i dont know about this one shawty,,
I dont think it affect cr bc my character is moving ??
you bought the pass for more seasonal locked items? i mean, there's only 4 cost regular ingame currency and there are still 4 cost seasonal hearts
I no longer AFK😂
I guess I can't afk while doing work or other stuff on the next update
Please read all of the latest post in #beta-announcements for details on the change 
this is imposition 
Its not every given moment exactly, it's just stopping people from mainly farming/idling on a game which is meant to be about talking. It's unfair that those who sit there under the tree idle and ignoring others get more stuff then those who go around actually doing stuff
yeah? the props will stay there forever because the QG is there forever
tbh. I always uber my friends in candleruns. And it does get a bit disheartening at times. It makes me feel like they're just using me to get candles.
It's ok for me if they're very busy sometimes, but if I'm the one always leading, it can get a bit, yeah
I don’t mind it be the way it is now. This way people joining after the season ends could have a chance to get some of the seasons’ props too (there being a lot of props). It brings fun items to more people. I actually like it for it to be changed to regular hearts and candles. And you still have 5 props that cost seasonal candles. I don’t see why that could cause any problem.
Huh... will new AFK implementation affect AFK skykids who are being dragged around to candle run by other players?
I am not sure I understand what you mean. The way I understand it, all the props at the top of the QG's tree will stay after the season ends, just like the hearts you can buy from them if you finish the quests later on. That sounds like a good thing to me. 🙂
"this change will affect future events and light farming in the world"
maybe something to think and test out with afk friends 
Could be
using bots to circumvent game mechanics is against ToS. Could you please remove your message?
Personally it won’t affect my cr cause I don’t get dragged around by my friends but it might affect others who are too busy with cr and does get around by being dragged
what if you're just busy and you're being ubered by friends-
Exactly.
I never uber. But whenever i think I'll have to go away for more than 20 or 30 mins, i just leave the game instead of making my friend (s) feel lonely
i saw like 6 seasonal props in your photo?
And what if the questgiver left how do we make sure it don't dispear from the one that is in the seasonal place
I see, in that case is helpful because i've experienced it but i still don't get the reason behind tree one lol.
wait, but if you have to chat with players, cant you just circumvent AFK by leaving your keyboard open on the screen
Forgot about that detail. My apologies. 
The quest giver won’t leave they haven’t left since enchantment. They’ll stay at the new season spot
i saw like 6 props there so i thought theres none with the- the spirits ykn
That's what we have to test 
this update doesnt affect me since i either never candle run or just run by myself 
There are three that are newly added and they were not among the seasonal props (the fire pot, the jar, and the mat)
Not everyone can be a social butterfly at all time. Sometimes people just want to calm down and relax.
Oh in the tree one I kinda experienced it too. I was semi-afk, phone next to me while farming. I would sit on people's tea sets and try talking to them, but they were very silent.
This was in beta btw, when the tree AFKing was at its finest. HAHAHAH
ooo new afk system eh? lets see how it will goes 
As much as I love all the new accessories, I'm a bit upset they all look the same on your back 
So those 4 props are now always obtainable, that's a really nice feature for new players
Im talking about assembly
the questgiver weren't there back then
In the new update about AFK, is that only when you are on your own or does it apply when you're being led by a friend?
afk system, a change literally no one else asked for 😥
But they are there .-.
Sounds like you need to go in beta and find out!
quest giver of assembly will stay in the main treehouse
Remember to give it a shot and gather some friends for testing scenarios in-game on the change! If you have a positive or a negative feeling after reading #beta-announcements, actually playing through it for a few days will most likely give you a better perspective overall 
noooo i wanted to candle sleep not candle run
It kinda bothered me a bit that we get so much props like the pillow, but you can only place one and that’s it
But calm down and relaxing doens't mean idling or going afk. It means sitting while chatting with friends or enjoying a view, and while that,we are never collecting light so it'll not affect us
ooo jar
Its just a bit confusing for me 
@primal pagoda I KNOW im talking about the props just confusing about them
Unfortunately I'm not in the current group of testers 
i dont think the afk is unfair if you're idle under the tree for wax but i do think it's unfair if you're trying to candle run with homies and you're currently busy 
Ooo ok 
It was needed because some people were afking next to the tree to take advantage of the free wax. That wasn’t the intended purpose of the tree.
let me rephrase that, quest giver of assembly will stay in the main treehouse including the quest, hearts, and props forever. why are you so stubborn 
imagine seeing moth with the props from questgiver - thats cute ngl 
Aw, in that case my advice is to wait a little bit and observe this chat for now! Since the update just came out, no one had the chance to test it yet and won't know any details
If I could get the candles just by leaving them under the cherry tree, I thought that the act of collecting candles was meaningless, so I'm glad I was able to handle it ...
I personally don't like this update on afk because sometimes my friends are leading me while I do stuff on my home and I can't keep moving the camera or chatting to not be considered afk, my friends are doing me a favor and now they can't 🤦🏻
what if u dont update it
I know, like one person said, under the tree is perfectly fine imo but in general is just a bad idea
Please kindly take time to experience and observe and take in the changes for yourself before jumping to conclusion or leaving feedbacks.
this builds bring a lot of new things too, so it’s important to take your time.
but if you’re busy you’re essentially not participating in the candle run with your friends 
is there a bug with the last quest
Hmm... Your camera moves by itself sometimes when you candle run with a friend. Since your camera moves, you won’t be registered as AFK mayhaps?
My beta is updating so I can’t really see for myself at the moment. 
after the update the afk thing will activate right? what if u dont update it
exactly, which wouldnt be fair and the skykid ubers would totally go out of business
you cant enter beta
You are forced to download the update after a while.
honestly I already see a way for this to be avoided, you can just use an Xbox or PlayStation controller to move your camera while doing other things without needing to be doing too much else, I hope the devs realise this (I might post this in feedback) because it defeats the whole purpose of this change
If you don't update, you won't be able to play the game after they force you to update
Besides, we are here to test new features and provide feedback!
how much props there is with the questgiver thought
I mean the props may help alot of players and make so much fun with them
Just a bit confusing ngl 
thats right. so you must update so there's no escaping it 😭
we would lose our moth taxi's 
I dont understand the afk systems. Does that means u cant collect light after afk for a while?
I’m just copying my message from #beta-looking-for-group, would anyone like to test a short cr with me? Either one of us can go idle. I want to test to see if idling during a cr is affected.
Remember if you feel strongly about this, please leave some feedback! But do so after actually trying the system out and not just reading the update notes
Im sad about this... me and my sky bestie always farm in silence and sometimes im folding laundry or hes doing something while i farm, and if we want to chat we sit somewhere to chat
I don't get why they added an afk thing and didn't just.... Limit how much wax u can get from the tree. Since the tree seems to be the issue
I sometimes go afk while candle running with friends because being dragged is kinda boring to sit and watch. If there was something for us to do while being dragged during cr to get us extra light I might feel the need to be more engaged while holding hands with a candle runner
yes

I ...don’t like the idea of the AFK thing - especially because we have no transparency on HOW long someone has to be afk for this to kick in. They should at least tell us. Is it 5 minutes? 10? I often candle run with friends - some of whom are single moms with kids to tend to, dishes to do..some of whom are young folks with university assignments. This feels super overblown for ONE event. Transparency should be key with these sort of changes in beta so we can understand the actual parameters. A better solution would be force closing the app after a player is AFK for 20+ minutes or something
@nocturne dew, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
It's just my opinion:- (might be a little um)
||I think if someone is going afk, they're not really participating in the game. It's honestly just so you can get them candles.
The afk feature does have a time after which the afk mode activates. So i hope it doesn't affect if you go just for like 2 or 3 mins.
I personally feel it's a good quality of life feature because i know how some uber people feel when they're surrounded with friends but still all alone||
I'm sure they would love to hear some suggestions. Do you have any activities in mind? 
I don't think it will affect afk uber people. Since camera moves often whenever you go close to a wall. But there's only one way to know

There has been a lot of changes along the season’s testing so it could get confusing. But so far I like most of the changes 
Nice
AFK system cant affect you if you're always the one leading /s lol
Oh, you know, in the old days of beta you wouldn't get wax if you were just holding hands with your friend. You had to actually burn the darkness plants and light the candles with them.
2 to 3 minutes is to harsh. I guess 8 -10 will be more reasonable
wont that just make everyone want to cr alone then
Yeah that was so-
i would like to test it but im currently drawing so people go test it for meee 
you tell me
Hopefully AFk activates when you're like, gone for at least 10-30 minutes. qwq
8-10 minutes is still unreasonable. If this is to stop people from sitting and farming all night then the cap should be over 30 minutes.
No, that'll make people not go afk all the time they're with friends and instead, Actually chat and see what's happening in the sky world
i love the way that we got 4 ults and the cape changes even tho the old one was cool too
hm, if AFK system makes people wanna CR alone, then game's still NOT SOCIAL
tbh i would say the tree better not give wax easy 
I honestly have no idea. I wish I did. But something like a mini uber riding game or playing instruments while being ubered or something that gives more light to everyone ubering tthst gives benefits would be nice
but some of my friends dont have unlocked chat and ive seen the sky world 1000 times
lets test it first m8s not jump into any conclusions, we're here to test it
So in a way there are 8 ultimate rewards, 4 paid, 4 free
Well farming with others while AFK isn’t socializing either 🤔
Its not just for one event i think. They want people glued to their phones or not play. Not get wax .. i had anfeeling this might happen a long time ago 😦 this is sad.. i am@one of those moms who tends to some@stuff while friends run, and when inhave time i run while friends either chat or they do stuff.. we sit to chat....
just tagging along without interacting/ even looking at the screen and getting ubered isn't exactly being "social" either
it doesn’t seem like it will impact afk players who are candle running though, as your avatar is constantly “moving” i can’t see how the game would pick that up as afk
you do know you can simply change the camera angle to prevent being put into afk mode
If the afk system is because of the tree then put the afk cap on at at least 30 minutes if not 45 or 60
: D
Everyone plays Sky differently. Leaving the device on all night to farm the tree is silly, yes. But doing something like this to address probably an insanely small amount of players who are leaving their device on is just overboard. Just force close the app when a player is AFK for too long. Problem solved.
Is afk while my friends taking me for cr count as afk?
well to be fair when you afk while doing a candle run, you’re not socializing either 
You aren't actually touching the screen at all, which it can tell
I’m very skeptical of the AFK update but I’ll test it out while under the tree and during cr
I'd be careful jumping to conclusions. Give your thoughts and your own feedback about the feature, but don't try to speak for others or what you imagine the playerbase reaction will be. Lots of different players play this game and will feel differently about all sorts of things, but we can contribute with our own vision 
Seems a bit unfair if you’re being led by a friend and are busy...
I drag around my boyfriend during my candle runs, and he deals with a lot at home, so occasionally he’s forced to be away from his device.
I have no issue in continuing to carry him around so he can get candles... it wouldn’t be fair for him to not be able to get any because he’s suddenly forced to go do something.
Whoever was using the bugle to play careless whisper: yes. 
the tree better turn off give wax mode so we not getting that update 👌
But that doens't mean you should go afk everytime you're tagging with someone, just remember that they can also feel like they're alone and the afk person is just there for the sake of candles and not friendship or to actually spend time with them
it's what we're all asking. Which is why we shouldn't jump into big conclusions straight away
if you agree that you dont like AFK system react with the emote i used
tbh i dont mind if the game takes away the ability to collect light after AFKing, but i wouldn't want to be force closed out of the game if i AFK while i sleep 
i hated every moment i had with a guy i ubered for weeks on end where this guy only knew to attach himself to me until i blocked him
Quite frankly, I do not understand why you simply don’t talk to your friends if you’re not ok with ubering them while they’re afk. I do have enough time (currently) to get 5-8 candles with the new system, but not everybody does. When I did not have the time, but didn’t want to miss out on the ts (which, as we all know, requires regular candle running), I simply asked one of my friends if it would be ok if I tagged along and went afk. If it’s all about communication, really (and it usually is), just talk about it, I cannot see the problem here. It’s going to make your life easier in the long run if you learn to address things you’re not ok with ^^
Season of assembly props is upon us 
hey everyone! i have a problem. well you see, after the update the quest giver have 4 ultimate gifts already. and each cost 2 season ❤️ that makes all in all you need 8 season ❤️ but we can only have 6❤️ and the problem is i already spend all on 3 ultimates and i havent got the Last Gift which is the Cape. where and how am I supposed to get it guys? should i send a Report as Bug?
tbh? as someone who always tag on an uber because of class i kinda disagree with this system- but then i wasnt suppose to play sky while in class so-
It should 1 ,1 ,2 ,2
lol
Okay, so far, 9 out of a few million players don't like it
||Just a joke i hope u understand my point||
This is beta, sometimes things change and you can't get all of the items if you already spent previous to the update
each do not cost 2 hearts lol. 2 of them cost 1 heart, the other 2 cost 2 hearts.
if you cant obtain it its too bad but theres no way to get more seasonal hearts
when tagged along and with no chat, you can still interact by panning your camera around, zooming out and in, helping the leader light candles and burn darknes.. You know, actually playing. Not just attaching to someone in the hopes of getting free wax while someone else does all the hard work.
Yeah that kind of players are annoying, like wave or do something at least
You say this like there’s genuinely things happening while candle running. I’m a long term player and regularly CR with my other long term friends, we both have all seen the world a hundreds time over and nothing is new in the “sky world.” we also all have irl lives and depend on behind ubered while we do our irl duties
why is there so many outrage and not enough test results
Why though?? This would actually be an extremely useful feature. I have had friends fall asleep in AWFUL places in forest and Westland and have stayed for LONG amounts of time to make sure they don’t lose stars. Sometimes over an hour or two because I can’t bear to leave them. Force closing the app instead of letting a player be afk for hours and hours makes sense. Why would you even leave the game on while you sleep??
“To address this type of player behavior, we have implemented players will need to engage with the world by moving their camera, their characters, or by chatting with other players.”
again your avatar is being moved for you in a cr so until it is confirmed it is still a possibility that it won’t impact afk candle runners
Everyone saying why mot talknto friends who are ubering... if its just the two of you, sometimes@its politer to not speak cause then they dont have to stop to reply.... #notaflyerandatalker lol
exactly what I'm thinking
another thing about CRs, you don't need to just stare into empty space you can actually help them CR by deep calling,helping them burn plants or light candles
People have gut reactions to big changes. We all care about this game, and it's natural to want to discuss! Just please remember to give it some time to test things out before you come to conclusions or submit feedback on it 
but i already spent all 6 before the update and before the update there was just 3 ultimate and the Cape wasnt there.. oh noooo i think am doomed.. what should I do?
I couldn’t really test this new afk system in beta
why not?
Thats what most of us facing.Sadly no compensation in beta
unfortunate that your friends sleep in places like that 
but i personally love to sleep with sky left on (since my phone doesnt overheat
), with friends in some oob area. its one of the few ways we can connect w/ each other. its sort of like having a skype call overnight and people dont feel so lonely
I guess we have to wait till reset?
man i have so many mixed feelings i just sat here for the past 10 mins thinking of where to start
Lots of homework :”)
Yeah that, that'll make the uber feel a lot better than the "sorry i was afk" texts every 10 mins
it happens sometimes. I can't get the mask anymore on my beta account. We're just supposed to test anyways
Why there's a really good update when im trying to take a break from beta :)
E it's been 35mins since reset occurred
you can just skip cr if youre busy tho 
m8s please do some test first before jumping to conclusions, this is beta, we're here to test not do a reaction post
Isn't it so difficult that sparks don't collect in the AFK state?
Some people listen to Sky without closing the app ...
😭😭😭 noooooooooooooo i wanted that cape Beta is my only chance to get it since am not going to buy pass in Live this season 😭😭😭🤷
Then the solution to people leaving their devices on to collect light from the tree is either nerfing the light from the tree - or making it so the light can only be obtained by interacting with the tree in some way.
i feel like these new items are bugs
Beta is for testing not replacement for live. But I'll give u a pat
its good to have different perspectives on how a change could affect different people, but we have to actually test it first before we jump to conclusions about how this update is bad lol
Please read #beta-faq and especially the "what to expect in beta" heading
I feel sorry for u , but it's expected at this point in the beta
it's not a bug. In beta, TGC doesn't compensate for any missed cosmetics. There was also a case in Prophecy where some players issed to receive 1 seasonal heart, which ended up them not getting the anubis mask in the end
Has anyone actually tested whether this affects afk candle runs or not? I see a lot of comments how it would be terrible for them, but has anyone actually checked if it affects it?
yeah I know but at least i have it in Beta i can use it 😭
Yeah, the main thing is we first need to check after how long the mode activates.
If it activates after 5-10 mins, then it'll be nice.
But not just after a min
I don't think anyone has had time to check the new afk feature. 
30 hearts for a bookshelf pls tgc i'm broke

We know what we signed up for. Sky beta is not meant to be an alternative game. Beta exists for testing.
Often when I say I’ll be useful I then forget, so...I HOPE I can be useful
no ones testing AFK because everyones here busy typing up a storm 
It’s the lack of transparency that irritates me. Tell us how long the AFK feature is for if they don’t want us reacting to it immediately without testing it thoroughly. It’s like radar honk in beta - they didn’t actually say a word about when it was testing that they were taking it away. Everyone thought it was a bug. In beta at the very least there should be more transparency with these major changes
@nocturne dew, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Tgc has given us too much power with these props 
lmao people should just quickly jump to test it in cr not quickly jump to conclusions
The bookshelf will stay there forever, unless you delete the game, so you have years to collect hearts for it :)
oh well i think am just gonna look at other players in Both beta and live wear that Cape.. thanks tho
does anyone notice that assembly symbol is actually international scout symbol
oh, really? great then!!
The AFK system should at least— instead of entirely revoking wax gain of someone AFK, lower the amount gained compared to that of what someone active would gain.
i dont see whats the problem with afk-ing under the tree. everytime i goof around there theres literally no one, and the field is so big 18 sky kids can fit in there. also the tree is big? it‘s not being covered by anyone? wh?
how do I test for the new AFK system though? I can't do a cr and afk at the same time to see if I am able to collect waxes
Ok, so if you’re taking a CR uber, what happens?
will investigate that
I don’t really like to talk dUring candlerUns since I try to do them as fast as possible for the person. After i UsUally offer to jUst hang oUt and chat if I got the time. I do that becaUse they might be bUsy and need it done fast or i might need the same. Also ig when we are addressing socializing issUes, SEARCH BAR FOR CONSTELLATIONS
I miss my old friends and I can never find them to socialize with them. Yes I know I have best friends bUt it is not enoUgh. PlUs I can’t Uber someone I am friends with, it takes to long to find them which means i am missing oUt on player interaction when i finally can speak with them. I do appreciate what the sky team is trying to do and hope the changes for this new system help achieve what they feel is great for the game

it means its time for us to make friends 😌
: D
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True
They want us to test it, that's why they haven't really said anything specific about the system. We rarely get straight answers in beta, and strong reactions are perfectly fine. This is a place for discussion after all, as long as it's kept respectful it does not need to be always positive
i just checked woah-
thanks for sharing this :stickerLove:
If a player (or more) is AFK in the homespace server, sometimes they unnecessarily fill up a room, and other players cannot join their friends in the same room..
I am a mom to and there’s so many times where the kids need me and I need to set my phone down
Maybe put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived ?
If you leave it in the middle of collecting candles, and if it starts moving again, there is no problem ...?
alright
investigation time I guess
hii, sorry for the bother, does anyone know how to stop being pinned by the beta updates? i was a tester of the past season but now i'm not anymore!
I have, jUst i feel if we are toUching on socializing then I feel there needs to be friends to actUally be doing that with
but when my friends are tired they can go afk and i help them cr so they can sleep and it is nice to help them we should be allow to play how we want not be force to always move or talk when cr when sometimes we are tired also i dont see what is so bad about sleeping at the tree it was fun and i made a lot of new friends also my friends put bonfires on me which was funny and you dont even get that much candles anyway also me and my friend take turns cr realms and i dont do anything for one realm and they lead and then i lead the next realm and they sneep its not fair they wont let us cr like this and moon is my best friend saying being afk makes your friends feel alone but its doesnt and we are still best friends if anything take turns cr has made us better friends because we help each other 
I read the beta updates, so for short: we wont be receiving light if we’re afk? Correct me if I’m wrong
tree can you pls turn off give wax mode so other skykid dont have to be sad 
Okay well first I'll open beta and see after how long it activates, but how do i check that since there's no tree
indonesian scout have their own symbol, thats why i legit confused when my homie mentioned that assembly symbol resembling the scout symbol
that is until i checked on the international one
You can remove your updates role in #beta-faq 
move and reenter
I couldn’t test this afk system yet but if it’s like my friend won’t get candles while I uber because they’re marked as afk then that’d be mean 
Like my friend and I are usually roleplaying on discord during our cr and are quite active (although my friend tends to multitask a lot so their responses can be late) but in game it just looks like I’m dragging a friend and stop every few minutes and then continue... and occasionally my friend helps me burn plants or recharge me but that happens quite rarely
Well, we’ll see how it’ll be 
I’m a Mom, I have to go afk constantly for varies periods of time.
I am slightly worried for some of you who seem to spend hours upon hours in the game. That is not healthy. TGC is literally just asking us all to play the game actively and the way it was supposed to be: a social and interactive game. Then close it and go do something in real life instead. It's just pixels, after all.
Oh yeah I see, well hopefully they’ll see it!
Hmmm not sure how I feel about the afk thing... it’s just not good honestly.. candle runs are helpful because they allow you take out the burn of candle running by stepping away from the game for a bit
Someone afking in home does no harm to no one. They are minding their business doing their own thing obviously. If someone is seeking to chat and connect, they are perfectly capable of finding someone else that wishes to chat and connect. Not everyone can be so social at all times while playing.
does it actually affect cr tho, has anyone tested?
Some of us have social anxiety and can't just talk to people so we afk 😔😔 and by we I mean me
thank you so much

I don't see anyone having tested it yet, no.
Why not just make it so only the AFK system is added to home? Why the entire world of Sky?
well the system doesn't really affect people afking in home
If it affects a cr.. that might be a problem.
You are a beta tester to test things. Asking questions here and not testing by yourself isn't helping tgc. If you cannot test now you can test it later and experience it yourself and provide your feedbacks in #beta-feedback . If you are not a tester please don't ask questions about beta stuff, this is the channel for beta players to discuss not for non beta players to ask questions in.
if you want to test it I can be the one afking
I personally have my off days where I don’t want to talk to anyone so I just nyoom through the realms and then hangout under the tree :”) ‘cause it’s peaceful in a way
Just look at it this way, when you're playing Identity V and you don't interact with your screen for a while, you're marked as AFK and the game (sorta) controls your account for you. This is the same with other games. It's a totally normal part of gaming. If you're playing, you should actually play. If you have other things to do, then leave the game and return when you're ready. Plain and simple.
But why is there a need to collect candles when you're not playing the game at all.
I think it's kind of fair. You get rewarded for how much you actually play
yes, like brawl stars
To be a teleportation point for your friends when there is a meditation quest at the top of vault, for example.
The AFK timer could only start in several hours for all we know just staring at the updates note. Please remember to give it some time and test it in beta if you are a tester before coming to strong conclusions or submitting feedback on it 
as much as I want to, I missed the invites this time, so I can't help yet
can't they bring the tree back so it's easier to test
You take the ultimate cape and put it back in and now I don't have any seasonal hearts, my brain hurts
The update literally stated people afking at the tree in home.
Fact
I think that is a good if you AFK while your friend drag you, you will not get the light at all. That if you really really not interact with your character at all 
We are all regular testers here, if you want TGC to read your feedback you should send it in #beta-feedback
Just please keep in mind that beta does not offer compensation and this is stated in #beta-faq before you joined
Hmmmmm candles are optional also :) Jk jk
they only noticed this behavior using the tree, while they are mostly applying this behavior to the rest of the game
@radiant drum this isn't my first rodeo I was just saying
||Yeah, i seriously don't understand the expectations to get something while not actually playing the game at all||
played too much idle clickers perhaps
Gaming is like reading. It's a linear act. If you AFK while reading, you're not exactly "reading".
If you have other things to do, then leave the game and return when you're ready. Plain and simple
i dont really fancy people afking while im leading either but this is bit unnecessary. esp when we have other actual problems like the friends constellation showing limited numbers of friends
the smol chirp when a chevron gone is just so cute
Well, better late than never
The ultimate cape is so beautiful I wanted it so bad, sad I'll have to wait for live
It could be that the controls need to come from you and not auto rotations, ie is player rotating the camera?
Sometimes it hurt to see when you see someone afk at multiple player doors 




No compensation. Beta is for testing and finding bugs. It's not a substitute for the full Live version of the game. As such, we generally do not offer compensation when players encounter bugs, even if they affect currencies or other important account features.