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Awwwww I just noticed they took off the blanket cape
Wait so the cape is just gone now ;0;
They might bring it back but they took it off from what I see
The cape will come back. Those that have unlocked it still have it. If it was removed it would be removed altogether. No one would still have it in their closet. It is on my skykid right now.
its there, but its not appearing because of a bug
Thank god! I was trying to look for it
🐛
So I’m with a friend trying to help them with 3rd quest and they somehow saw the circle for the final quest and we just did it
they said they didn’t get an end cutscene but whaaa 
But do we know the cape is missing due to a bug or is it just as possible it is being worked on?
What I heard is that It’s due to a bug! But I’m not sure!
It has been confirmed by ktjn the cape missing is a bug. In #beta-known-issues, the first known issue is blanket for all missing cosmetics, but also includes the cape.
But they haven’t activated final quest with QG yet?
that’s definitely something worth bug reporting
Can anyone tell me so far what’s ap and what’s not currently in beta? For assembly
Hi Min
spirit trees are not finalized in beta yet. And things are still being moved around. So it’s better to wait for the live release.
I know, I’m just curious though
You can search for key words in #beta-screenshots-videos I’m sure some screenshots of spirit trees have been posted there

#beta-discussion message we're also told not to give price charts while content is still beta only. This also includes which items are AP locked or not as the trees may be adjusted 
does the props are being rework, cause they all the same in season of assembly?
They hadn't even done third quest yet 😳 they would've had to go back in order to turn the quest in but I guess since they didn't get a cutscene it didn't count
I'll tell them to bug report when I see them 
Guess so, in known issues Ktjn said it's intentional

Is it just me not seeing right or does the ultimate gift cape in the #news image look different to what we currently have in beta
Hey i just want to double check, we ARE having the cape as the ultimate gift right? That is, we will be expecting 4 ultimate gifts in the current version: the mask, the hair, the trumpet and the cape? It's just a bug that the cape isn't showing up as an ultimate gift?
The trumpet is an ultimate gift ? 😭
Not sure about 4 ultimate gifts..
When will the next forging system be effective in live?
I'm not sure about the update... it didn't really say if they decided to remove the cape or not. only some items are not available from the guide? that's why i asked 🤦♀️
Next update
Yes
Check #beta-known-issues
I did 🤦♀️ they didn't specifically address this issue that's why i turned to you guys hahahah but thx anyways
Thanks, seems my live sky app has updated on its own but there were no, new forging candle ..
i'm not sure then
Ktjn said it earlier, its a bug that we cant find it now.
Yup
Thanks guys
Oh i meant the cape
If you're talking about the live version, it's not there yet
Guess the daily light system will be active when the blossom event starts? But thats a guess
Anyone else still crashing?
I didn't have any today
No crashes at all, did my candle run in peace 👌🏻
Do any of you remmber what came with the tea set for the in app purchase, was there any extras or just the tea set?
I think it was candles?
35 reg candles
Just a reminder because there have been a LOT of complaints under Sky's social media from Beta players: The devs do not owe us ANYTHING in Beta. We applied into Beta knowing the bugs and constant changes that happens. Beta players are simply there to test out the devs plans, give feedback, and that's it. You will not be refunded, Beta and it's shop is completely free along with the generous amount of daily Seasonal Candles.
Exactly. Beta is for testing purposes only, not for us to collect items etc- we signed up for beta to help report bugs and feedback to TGC, in order to make anything new perfect for when it comes to live. You will be able to get any cosmetics etc that you cannot get in beta, in live. 
Beta is beta. We signed up for this. Tbh progress wipe could happen too if one day devs should have that testing need. So do not get too much attached to your beta account or anything you own there. It’s not a substitution for the live version of the game. And we don’t own our beta account, not the same way we own our live account.
My excuse for not doing things in beta is: it's beta
Live is infinitely more important to me than beta, as it should be
What really counts for a beta mindset (if there is one
) is the experience of participating in the dev process, the proud feeling of being of some help to make it a better experience for live players. That satisfaction is given only by voluntary kindness and dedication and our mutual love for the game, and the possession of no cosmetics could give that 
My feedbacks: just replace the trumpet with ultimate cape thats all
Also i sent it in the feedback channel, its kinda long
Have u heard of 4 ultimates? And the bug?
Yassine Abh#1093 The dress is not currently in live. It is available in beta only right now from the hide and seek spirit in forest constellation, and you can see a preview of it in the closet in beta. Please don’t speak about the topic in general because it spoils it for other people 
Ktjn already said the ultimate cape is missing, not scrapped
It's confirmed that SoA will have 4 ultimates and one of them is missing due to bug. The missing one is most likely to be the cape
Huh I thought they said it was scrapped, thank god its only missing 
Right now there’s the trumpet, the mask, the pot and the cape (which is missing due to a bug and should return soon). Props, cosmetics and spirit constellations are also still being changed and shuffled around, and a few other items are currently missing as well
the one that looked like a raincoat was the one that was scrapped
The design was scrapped but they kept the cape, just changed what it looked like
Yes but it might change in the future 
Oh yeah i think the cape were missing the star, thats why they’re fixing it
Maybe yeah lol
Rule of thumb is to spoiler tag stuff that is not released in live yet so i would @keen quest
Since the teaser was released publicly, you are free to use that one without tags
All stuff should be spoiled until it get released in live, that’s what they would like us to do and not every cosmetic is shown in the teaser
Oh thank you for clarifying!

OMG the DL system is live now 
Noooooo
we need the little pink flowers on grass 
Questions and help channel is gonna be chaos 
It already is 
Huge wax in live

Wait the DL system is live now????
Theres no news about it??
Omg I checked it is on live now
Inbox went live too
apparently its on purpose according to whirthun
Last time i opened my live game it wasn't there
it's mentioned in the last patch update note on live, but it took time to be implemented apparently
It went live just about 10-20 minutes ago apparently
The Kaek candle is now in isles
So now, Isle has candle cakes on it?
Does anyone knows wheres the new candle cakes are in isles actually
So far I only found the one with the boat from LS
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
will the cape disappear? 😞😭
Oh
No its just a bug the cape will come back
If thats what you're talking about
there's some pics in #beta-screenshots-videos
Yes, the ultímate gift 🥺 I was worry
Ye it will come back
Oh thx 🙏🏻 i was sad 😔 cuz I love that cape 🥰
What cape?
The ultimate gift is not available now, there’s a mask, the pot and one instrument
I still haven't finished the constellation yet. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Yes, cuz the cape of the quest giver is one of the ultimate gifts, I have it, but is not available now, and Ranbowboi told me that is just a bug ☺️
Let's hope TGC will resolve this issue soon. I really want to get that cape
Yes it’s beautiful 🤩 I want it on live version.
Anyone noticed The teaset sound effect when you take a sip? 
sluuuuuuurp
✨
** Slurp loudly **
✨
The teaset is now look perfect, now all i need is to bye bye money and enjoy a reall nice cup of tea 
YOOO CHEVRON SYSTEM ON LIVE NOW?!?!?????
Yes yes
And the lil sound it makes when you put it down is just 🤌
Asmr mmmmmmmm
mmmmmmmm
Unfortunately I already cr-
So i cant see how it work in live 
hoh hoh hoh wi wi ✨ Baguette 🤌 ✨
***wi wi lmaoo 🤌 ✨ ***
Why did I understand that i dont even speak or learn French
No, not yet

and you can also make expressions (emotes) if you are sitting or lying down 🥰
Yeah i know , its all fun until you cant walk with emotes
Soon™.
Soon™ we will have walking with emotes.
i check news and beta updates every day 
Wait so do we need to buy the skirt in order to finish the constellation? Or is it just like the tier 2 cape
like tier 2 capes
And cost 15 hearts
Yeah i know 
Imagine spending 15 hearts on a skirt when you have all these ✨pants✨
I'll get my Beta friends to get back online on Monday for that.
I put it as a feedback too! Hope its not too late. But putting the horn as an ultimate gift is big no for me. For functionality as others pointed out instead of a cape, yes it is. But considering the wholeness of the story, the quest giver act like he is on the very lead to lead the scout spirits. Meaning hes on a the highest hierarchy. The scout members act as an individual talent in order to bring back the tree house to life. Like in a crew, there are musicians, an adviser, an entertainer , muse, escort, medic such like that, the quest giver is an ultimate spirit in its own hierchy. Its just upsetting the just take away a musician scout member and put it as an ultimate. The quest giver alone stands as their all around mentor, the scout member as a unique spirit with their own contributable individuality. Think the quest giver as the all around captain, and the scouts are its beloved crew. Let them hild their talent and the captain will guide them the way. The mask, hotpot and cape is better enough a combination of ultimate.
From what I'm understanding, the horn is an addition to all the current ultimate gifts, not to replace the cape. So there will be 4 total. I just believe there's a bug and the cape is missing from the constellation
I hope i wont get too much hope for that because this is beta content and they might change something 
Missing cape from Constilation is a bug.
What does this thing do?? #beta-screenshots-videos message
I still hopping that is just a bug, cuz I want that cape oh yes 🙌🏻, if not, we need to send many messages to TGC
If thats the case i agree. But better in my think to just pave the way for the items to the scout. Its like entrusting the whole makeover to the spirits. Like” im leaving all my powers to you my dear scouts, i believe in your talent and i believe in you
Some of the props don't have features added to them yet because many things in the season are still being developed. We'll have to wait for future updates to see what everything does
Missing Cape from QG Constilation is a bug.
Okie thanks
Yes ☺️
Story plus cosmetic wise, the horn should not be there
Yes, don’t fit too much
Since i believe the new quest line is a story base and we should give more emphasis on the storu. And equipping them with the wright cosmetics will follow
going to write "trumpet shouldn't be an Ult as it doesn't feel like one and would work better on a normal tree; 3 Ults is enough and could be 2 hearts each - 4 feels unnecessary" in the morning, tired
I agree with this too. The past 2 seasons followed their respective stories well and each spirit were equipped with the right cosmetics so I think this season should do the same as well
Lets think of its as a battallion. The quest giver is the commander, hes the most powerful man in terms of commanding effort, his men is more powerful in terms of individul arms
well bugles were used for communication between troops
The ultimate cape looks like you just battled with a huge elders and krills
The QG never uses the trumpet, doesn't make much sense
Yeah, and in an army, theres a music officer, a medic, a flag color officer, medic, all commanded by their highest rank
Thats maybe the greatest concern on the latest update, the rest of the spirits will be for proper final placements i guess.
interesting point actually
but it as an Ult instrument feels...odd
should be accessible to the majority with how it is I feel
this is not a good time to be impatient 
exactly
honestly the green cape shouldn't be AP in the sense of having all of the capes be so is rather odd and unfair
im glad that baffled botanist's mask isnt ap atm
i want it
granted i should have 10 dollar to spend if i have to but
trees need a bit more shuffling definitely - a few more?
Wasn't all sanctuary pants AP locked too?
Wait so ummmm hi, is the dress from any Assembly spirit or someone else is giving it out?
the dress?
hide and seek spirit in forest
Oooooh THANK YOU GUYS. YOU'RE AWESOME
rhythm had both its capes AP locked too, so this isn't all that surprising
also one of the capes is shaping up to be an ultimate reward
Does the ult cape removed from the ult reward?
To me it seems like this season might be focused more on the props rather than cosmetics, hence sooo many props (with the functionality to be revealed later). But i do like the cosmetics too.
I think the green glowy cape is big attraction, and considering the feedbacks on first days about how the ultimates were not worthy i think it's understandable how they put the green cape locked now. Also the braided hair(?) went from AP to free. I think it's fair enough
hey all ummm #news message
is the flower crown separate from the hair 
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh yeah theres a lot of props arent there
an accessory that wraps around your head? yeah, can't see how clipping is going to happen at all for all of the hairstyles.... /s 😔
if its any consolation i requested a flower crown hat cosmetic in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived a while ago
i can see why they wouldnt but it would be cool
I'm abit sad too cuz i want my yeti kid to wear. But ok.
i genuinely feel bad for afro mains because their hair just eats almost all accessories out there lol 🥲
UMM, what about the eye patch? is it like the other masks where there's a prop on the mask? like the rose mask where the rose is sticking on the mask, is the eyepatch also sticking on the mask?? or is the eyepatch not available to buy 
the eyepatch isn't available?
the eyepatch is part of the mask, yess
awww maaaan i kinda wanted the eyepatch to be separate because maskless+eyepatch look so cool 
WAIT A SEC, ARE THE MASKS DARK COLORED?? Like the Ultimate Rhythm mask?? 
i think its a grey
thanks for answering my questions. i just cant wait
i'll go scoot away now 
happy to help
if the cape being AP locked means we get the torch for free i dont mind it at all tbh. torch is pretty good for what it is
That torch is what my kid carry everyday since i got it👍👍👍👍👍👍
I heard if you haven’t forge your candles for 2 or 3 days, the amount of candles wont change right?
Idk if i heard this from late beta updates
It shouldn't. We really didn't test the on/off switch of the Daily light system, so previously forged candles from the previous system might have gone to the ether. (If you're talking about live)
Does anyonne know how many candles you get in a full cr? I would test it out but the doors take so long in beta and it might be easier just to ask here.
@graceful bluff, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
=_=
pretty sure candles are forged in the background
In beta, last time I tried to full CR, I got 17ish candles collecting all realm wax, orbit and the trials.
Oh wow. That's less than i was expecting. I'm planning on trying out a full cr (except eden) tomorrow at reset, hopefully it's pretty much the same as it used to be. I know the point is to discourage grinding like that, but im a grindy kinna person
It's always been between 16 and 17 candles throughout the testing of the daily light system. I think a few tuning passes we reached 18, but all the numbers usually included orbit numbers. (Which at 0 chevrons is barely 1/4 candle)
What's going on with the ult scout cape? I don't see it on the guide's tree or in the wardrobe?
its a bug. #beta-known-issues states stuff is still missing from spirits, which includes the ult cape
if you bought it before the bug happened, similar to bookcase/tent you'll still see it in your closet
good evening y’all
do we have any insight what happened to the constellation at home in live? my friend chats exploded today, while i enjoyed a day at the farm. everyone wants to know what the heck we let pass 😆
hi this channel is for beta testing related topics, you can ask live questions in #questions-and-help 
just asking, did you guys ever guess when the beta invites would come out? also, what should i do if i saw a hacker going to office without cape??
Hello @scarlet venture
The beta is currently full, no one knows when invites will happen next as they only happen when the devs need more testers. If you're interested in becoming a Sky Beta tester in the future,** read #beta-faq to learn about invitations and how to get notified when they happen** 
Reminder to all that we ask that questions and discussions about the invites are kept to a minimum because this is an important time for beta testers to discuss testing
Please read #beta-faq and the channel pins as all information you need is there 
I assure you I forwarded feedback on the constellation changes to dev, but they still chose to move forward with those changes into the Live build. We have seen the feedback coming in hot from Live players and will take another look between now and the next content patch. Making complicated changes takes time.
Hello everyone! Just a friendly reminder, if you are feeling stressed or anxious about having to catch up on all the new beta info and changes, don't forget there is still the live version!
if you miss seasonal candles one day, it's okay because eventually you can get them in live. Also, your live skykid misses you!! Maybe instead of rushing around collecting candles, you can chill at sanctuary for a while 
Just saying this because I've seen a lot of sky friends chatting that it's hard to keep up with the info (:
also, what should i do if i saw a hacker going to office without cape??
Report
where
!reportfaq gotta light them up though 
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
thanks!
awww ktjn, i hope people are not being mean to y’all. mistakes happen, even if the intention was for an improvement. hang in there, and thank you for advocating!
music sheet 20 with all instruments parts sounds beautiful
I don’t look at my constellation much in beta so I didn’t really see the changes until like the day before this update went live 
Is the torch useful in Eden?
Maybe because I don’t have that many friends in beta, but my constellation behaves differently in live too, the text kinda hangs around for a little bit when sending light
I should probably go bug report that rn
omg same kai. i just magically land at same server as you and dont bother to look elsewhere

My beta didn't have so much friend, when it on live server, it kinda mess. Imagine you put some icons and flags or something in friends name, your constellation will be in mess.
that is literally how I ever see any of my friends is getting hella lucky with server merge
tgc search bar on constellation when 
thanks for info yall. ima take this dopey dog outside, sneak a few minutes on beta!
since it acts very similarly to bonfire, i'd say yes. i'm planning on going to eden this weekend in beta to test it out, but i normally go with a bonfire. having an extra recharge point is so helpful
I do that last week. It cool to have that torch. Even I try used it at the statue part of map.
I just watched your vid and wow I really want handpan now
They sound amazing, kudos for editing them together 
i love placing a bonfire on top of the very last recharge point right before the endless red rain. very fast recharge right before death 
Question for beta testers: are we each making our own little treehouse?
Hey guys
I haven't been able to get the bag and the hexagon yet, what do they both do?
i think all the cosmetics have a bag. the bag carry each of the item and i still clueless with the hexagon also.
Oh okok...
Aww
who has the music sheets right now and are they adventure pass
i have them and no they arent ap
ok thats great
i made a cover of music sheet 20 go check it out in beta screenshots
if you want to know what it sounds like
Anyone know if we already used all seasonal hearts, can we still get the mask?
No you can't
at the moment, no, you won't be able to get the mask, and tgc generally doesn't compensate for lost currency, so you most likely won't get it at all in beta
Ah well. Would have been nice to have the full outfit.
Wait... I just went to live... the new light system is in live!!???
I thought I was in beta for a full 15 minutes
Yea, just did vault, isle, and all the trials 
heyo everyone, just wanted to ask, do you think the trumpet is just a placeholder for now? or will that thing be the last ultimate?
Did everyone have a bookshelf-like item gone? 🥺 A lot of errors
me @ baffled botanist when the season releases: 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃
Pretty sure it'll be an ultimate 
But the seasonal friendship tree nodes are still being shuffled so I can't really confirm until it goes live
Guys im not a beta tester yet but where are the beta invites? Says that its available but i cant find the link 
Hello @river sorrel
The beta is currently full, no one knows when invites will happen next as they only happen when the devs need more testers. If you're interested in becoming a Sky Beta tester in the future,** read #beta-faq to learn about invitations and how to get notified when they happen** 
Reminder to all that we ask that questions and discussions about the invites are kept to a minimum because this is an important time for beta testers to discuss testing
Please read #beta-faq and the channel pins as all information you need is there 
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
Not a placeholder
There are supposed to be 4 ultimates. For now. But there's bug, one ultimate is feeling shy to show up maybe :pPopcorn:
U might wanna turn off Beta Updates ping for now
JS. Sanctuary w/out music. Only nature... sooo happy! All the Feels!! Relaxation 🥰
is the ult gift cape gone?
Why?
because the updates are about the app and not about invites
Hello @steady pond
The beta is currently full, no one knows when invites will happen next as they only happen when the devs need more testers. If you're interested in becoming a Sky Beta tester in the future,** read #beta-faq to learn about invitations and how to get notified when they happen** 
Reminder to all that we ask that questions and discussions about the invites are kept to a minimum because this is an important time for beta testers to discuss testing
Please read #beta-faq and the channel pins as all information you need is there 
Ohhhhhh
I can imagine the season hitting live and skykids doing little nightmares and dora, swiper and boots cosplay

I can imagine all the AOT cosplay too 😂😂😂
Dora would be confident sightseer hair, default mask, overalls, backpack and pink cape 
what is the price tree for days of bloom in beta
20hearts and 70candles I think
- 10 candles for blessing
20 hearts for the hair - 10 candles for blessings - 70 candles for the cape
So.. Season of Cosplay then?
Anyone have an idea on what is/isn't AP atm?
I just wanna decide if the AP is worth getting, even if still subject to changes
Get the AP. U get everything 👍
may I private message you since I don’t think I’m allowed to say this here - since it’s not promoting my channel
Sure, i'd be down
If its a beta video feel free to share it in #beta-screenshots-videos 
So, my friends and I were wondering, what's with the grey sky? It looks polluted... Could it be a secret event coming in April for Earth day? A reminder that global warming is real... And that we can still do something if we all work together
The grey sky is linked to the bloom event
How so?
#beta-discussion message
Maybe because that's how the sky looks while the cherry blossoms bloom irl
oh! Thank you!
Okay but 3 ultimate gifts rn- wow 
There will be 4 in total. The cape is currently missing due to a bug
When I upgraded my phone, my re-download of Beta is starting me as a Moth. Should I play that way on my phone, keeping my main account on my tablet, or should I try to figure something else out?
Assuming that you're an android player, that's a current bug. Try restarting your game, that usually fixes it. If it doesn't, double check that you downloaded beta using the right email
beta is messed up rn
Yep, rechecked it all, and have tried signing in several different times with lots of time between (got the phone in February) I don't mind playing a 2nd account, there are benefits to me playinga 2nd account as well as the same account on 2 devices, it just cracks me up because I actually want a 2nd one on Live, and can't get it to work 😂
Is it me or did the tea drinking animation on the teaset get downgraded? 
guys is it just me or the sky in home space is become gray?
It’s been like that for the Days of Blossom 
oh? is it connected to the event?
The point was a placeholder, but you can put feedback if you want 
Woah I thought the cape accidentally got replaced... damn- this is very pog 
Oh and this is like 10mins late sorry 
The pointing animation got replaced with the tea drinking again , but it just feels like the animation wasn't as good as it was before they added the placeholder 
time to give feedbacks
yeah 
It looks cute when you pair the Days of Bloom cape and hair, chibi mask and dress together
hi guys im checking out the trials rn for wax... how many cakes are there for each trial..?
Oh no... the teleport glitch... it’s in live too
I did it with the swing... table and feast table didn’t work tho not sure about seesaw cause I don’t have it
Water and earth 2-2, Air- Fire 4-4
i only see 1 cake for trial so far...hm
which trial?
water
theres 2 of them
whats the 1 you saw where was it?
like around the middle area to the right
theres one cake at the end
its like behind the hill
Had to do eden real quick in beta before the traveling spirit came 💀
I do t think that seesaw ever worked in beta either since there is no collision with that item 
yes i got it thanks ran!
ur welcome ^^
Oh yea forgot about that lol
Really? Regular table from vault too? Woohhh
Omg I saw someone post a drowning cake in #beta-screenshots-videos . When is that ? 
When sanctuary was in beta for testing
There's a new wax location in valley but I can't find where it is does anyone know?
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
Will beta come to everyone later?
Does anyone have or know of a compilation of all new candle spots? (Isle, forest, valley snd vault?)
somehow my table in live ver is not glitched:(
Tables dont work, in live currently only swing and bonfire, in beta swing, bonfire, tea set and current seasonal items.
Elius, we've been asked not to make lists or guides, so Live crowd might be better to ask (if it's for Live).
ooooo thank youuu so much
Something I noticed... so off season, with the new light system, the candles you get from the quests count as a chevron

They do? O.o when we had off season here they didn’t count im sure about that 
thats bad 😐
but i did the quests i dont think it did 
I lost my first chevron for sure and all I did were the quests :(... I could be mistaken tho :(
It’s hard to avoid collecting wax while doing the quests.
No drop for me, i did only quests first then collected a few candles to see my internal chevron levels and quests had no effect on them just as beta off season. 
when I was at 1 chevron yesterday, and I try to relive a spirit which I havent collected yet, I only got half a candle
weren't you supposed to have full 1 candle?
If i may those who havent unlock or just unlocked recently the scolding student. whats inside her tree next to the music sheet
0.75 I believe
I dont think there's music sheet
Its a spell for 20 sc
There is from the katest update
oh yes its just a spell
hi guys, so since the official announcement for assembly is out now I guess the cosmetics are in their final design 
Whenever I go into vault now, I feel like I’m going to see a krill behind me any minute
uhhh i guess, I still don't know what's the use of the bookshelf
the use will probably be implemented into beta soon, I think they wanted to work on the cosmetics (capes, hairs, ...) first, and will get to the bookshelf and other usable items next
Maybe, but it looks like some items are still missing, so you never know.
True. It’s interesting though to see them have decided on an ultimate reward! I liked the old cape version as well but the new one is very unique.
both, both is good
i feel like the teasers final art showing all of them from the front and not the back is indicative of something, lol. (that the props arent finalized)
But at least my smile mask is safe for now XD I’m sad they changed 😃
But I’m not going to complain anymore, I have a way of cosplaying hange now lololol ahhh still sad it changed tho
Hopefully they keep ☺️ the same way
Hi is anyone know if the candle cakes at trial in beta are still there?
Anyone else think the old pendants should be redesigned now that we have this awesome Pendant of Assembly?
Just as the live one?
Nah I love prophecy’s and don’t want it to ever change ><
Big agree lol
Do you guys ever wonder what’ll happen to the game when TGC decides to end it? Will we no longer be able to access the emotes or cosmetics anymore? I feel so sad thinking all my emotes would go away
Don't think you should worry about that. The day may or may never come, carpe diem!
uh, i think emotes would be the least of your concerns if they shut it down 
What would be a bigger one? :O
the game not being accessible at all
The seek spirit is hide n seek spirit right?
For the skirt?
servers cost money to operate 😔
Tysm ❤️
if they shut it down why would sky continue running to begin with 
Sky could keep operating if the playerbase donated to keep servers online even though there's no technical support or customer service.
But this is all speculation and let's hope the day never comes that we have to think about such things.
I agree with lye and Elius but I don’t think this will happen anytime soon. I don’t see why they would have a reason to do this 
they did say they have stuff planned for a long time coming. im not letting TGC shut down sky before they give me a fav tab to put my emotes in 
The long awaited feature honestly 
They just posted a dev video explaining the philosophy behind the Daily Light system, and in no uncertain terms said they want players to have a healthy and rewarding experience for years to come. I'm not worried about Sky going anywhere.
the update rearranging my emotes just makes me want the tab even more 🥲
Loved that video. It was nice seeing Tim Nixon (?) again. He used to host the Twitch streams before.
I'm pretty sure TGC are in it for the long run, every decision they've taken/are taking shows that they care a lot about quality and developing something valuable. To be honest, we're very lucky to have such a company in this day and age that cares so much about the community and have pride in their product/services.
Every time there’s new emotes I struggle with finding my old ones it’s a pain 
Don't wanna ask this in the normal channel so, how much is the season necklace
truly the greatest out of all the ults assembly has
is the bucket one
The seasonal pendant is essentially your receipt for purchasing an adventure pass. Same pass price as always.
You can ask freely in general chat, it's available with the Adventure Pass pre-order on the live game.
Oh god iap
It’s always been iap.
Always has been
i want covid to be over just so tgc can be together again and do livestreams again
Every season has a pendant that comes with the Adventure Pass, this is nothing new.
they could always do streams in sky with a dev build that allows for 20 people in a server /j 
Hi
Can't I sleep in a hammock?
I'm desperately trying to get a better sleeping position.
I was hoping if it ever came to that point, there would be a localized version of the game, maybe one where the multiplayer would just be other people with the game installed and have their Bluetooth turned on? Or if not, just a localized version without any multiplayer features... so none of the multiplayer functionality would work, but at least you’d have the emotes and cosmetics still... honestly, mostly the emotes ;-; I’d miss them so much if they were gone ;-;
We really really need a tab or fave section or something honestly ;-; it took me 3 minutes to find the bow emote today, and the one player I saw I kept honking at them to stay and not move 🤣🤣🤣
Alright, so what happened with the season spirit trees? I understand that the props are a work in progress but stuff moved and there's a cancelation symbol in one of them? The cape disappeared?
The ultimate cape will probably come back, although it’s not in the tree right now.
The null item (cancellation symbol) will also be replaced with an item sooner or later again.
/I wanna check in
Is "negative chevron" still a thing ?
And is it achieveable in live ? I'm super curious if I could do it there 
I waited for a long time without a chance😭
There’s no negative chevron but just a greyed out candle bar afaik. And that was only achieved during Days of Bloom testing with the extra tree wax. The candle forge rate is extremely slow at that stage so there would really be no point doing cr if you have a greyed out candle bar.
Ah, alright then, was looking forward to do it In live
, thank you !
does that grey candle phase even have an official name ?

Not that I know of 🤣 it’s a stage after the 0-chevron but still not hitting the hard cap yet.
We should call it "the point of no... candle running."
Because I do not have the energy to deal with the grey candle phase
Currently if we do full cr, without the tree wax, we could only reach 0-chevron if I’m not mistaken
I don’t even have the energy to deal with the 0-chevron phase tbh
I mostly just stop candle running when I reach 0 chevron now cuz I tried doing it a lot during the off-season period in beta and it was just depressing 
0 is better now than it used to be but its still a pain.
grey is beyond depressing it was 2-3 h to get one candle
not really a beta topic since it's already live, but i just finished a full run while missing only the non-cake candles in the trials -- you'll hit the grey candle if you do all 6 realms, which means you've forged 20 candles
How long was your time compared to the old one?
today's not a good sample since i had a few people join and leave as well as some idle time and crashing, but it's currently like 51 minutes longer than my old average
i'll have to resample later after i've gotten a feel for how to do more efficient routes with the new spots
||ur name is really interesting....spearmonkey...||
are there any masks that aren't ap in the new season?
Can i get clarified abt this? Even though we have more candle cakes and candles all over the map now, but the full amount we can get daily is still the same after balanced out by the new candle system?
We should be hesitant to make any assumption based on the fact that items are still being moved around in the spirit tress.
I would not say for certain anything about what is AP locked at this point. We don't really know.
aw
well, i'm hoping that the edgy boy hair will stay non ap since my friend who doesn't want to spend money wants boy hair
Uhm yes. I dont remember what was the exact amount of max candles in live before but somewhere between 19-20 iirc (correct me if u remember the exact value) . Now as Spear said u can get 20 but thats a full run which was almost an hour longer, and he’s fast and effective on his routes.
I have a question, i had finished all the items in each constellation, but just needed one heart to finish....now when i went to look today, 4 of the spirits are asking me to buy again? Has anyone else had this experience.
it's technically lower if you were actually doing daily eden runs in live, but otherwise, it's about half a candle higher (i may actually be mistaken here, i forgot the office candles weren't included in Clement's count)
though that extra half a candle requires significantly more work
Just be cautious about taking anything you see on YT for example with any certainty. Things could change tomorrow for all we know.
The regular spirits or seasonals?
Seasonal
This is beta, stuff goes trough changes
They changed the spirit trees with the latest update, music sheets, spells has been added etc. that’s why.
Oh, so the full run takes almost an hour longer now? But im still amazed by this new candle system. It helps ppl get a decent amount of candles per day. And by adding more bunches all over the map, people can get wax wherever they run, but the total amount is still the same so it doesnt make ppl super rich and break the gameplay. Thats a smart system.
I am confused with the message that candles are free in Beta. But we still need to cr right?
the 1 hour longer bit was just from comparing my run today to my usual average, but i was also moving slower than usual due to some delays -- it's definitely going to slow you down a bit though even if you're moving efficiently
It’s probably supposed to mean iaps but there’s no universal icon they could use or something 
Thanks for more insights
Also, it falls to one chevron after getting ten candles?
Candles and seasonal passes are free in the shop (they don’t cost money like in live, so iap is free). Otherwise candles are not technically “free”
yeah, seems like it drops one chevron level per 5 candles you complete
There is nothing in my shop though
Yep that’s normal 
But u get SO MUCH more seasonal candles in beta. and when it converts to white candles, Ahhhh. 
It’ll get faster when they add more activities that reward light (remember those hidden meditation circles! )
So it IS possible 
Well, I ran out of time to open sky, but I'll take note of that in the near future. Ty ! 
So you’d have to get the cakes in trials to hit grey candle phase?
you'd have to, yeah, i only just hit grey candle right as i finished vault's top floor
4 hearts away from skirt and I might die without it
i'm not entirely sure how much that last cake pushed me over the threshold by, but trials have like 12 cakes in total -- there's no way you'll be making it to grey candle (with the current settings) if you skip them all
u guys know if the cloudy home is just for Bloom or is it here to stay?
i hope it's the latter 
Just bloom
we don't know, it was introduced worth the event and other event changes to home haven't been permanent
aww alright
thank u 
Is the date for Assembly certain?
I think it’s not a good idea to have in Live AT ALL
I don’t want a date yet, want it gone and time extended to sort things out properly
this is giving me an anxiety I can’t describe easily
Don't worry, the devs will polish everything before it comes to live. Just because we have a date does not mean it will be released in the state it is, they are still working on the season.
the date could be too soon for the work needed is all I mean, that’s what I’m worried about
I'm sure the developers know what they are doing though, they know how to calculate time.
But it isn't ours to worry about..the devs will adjust their timeline if needed.
We somehow managed to get Fire Prophet here 3 days before Prophecy though so
but that was just lucky
I don't think it was "just lucky". Again, I'm sure they know what they are doing.
Does anybody really know what they're doing tho?
That was their work they put into it
bugs happen all the time the more you fix the more appears.
...or was it, probably wasn’t, just unfortunately tight timing
my faith in the devs is just not extremely strong or weak, I’m sort of half and half
um hi i dont know if i can talk about it in here but how people are capeless? i mean thry are capeless even in home but they arent using the point of no return method (again, if i cant tlak about it just let me know, ill delete it)
Until the Holy 0 bug day
Either invisible cape or never collected a single wing. Glitch capeless was a thing too but i dont know any current method to achieve that after the opening screen change.
they probably bought the invisible cape for 999 hearts, which requires having the vault elder hair which means that they need vault completed (which probably took a long time, especially because its beta)
oh my i saw the invisible cape on youtube and thought that was a scam, thank you tho
No bug you say? That must be a bug
We can't know for sure, but it's still not our place to push any dates back. Even if the time is too short (which it won't be), we couldn't do anything about it...
My code never has bugs honestly, they're all "intended features"
/Doubts exist, it's alright,
I'm also kind of worried about the season in this state rn
But again, Wip is Wip, the Wip could be super buggy messy but the end result would look great anyways. I'm sure the Devs know what they're doing
Also was there actually ever a holy no-bug era in beta

Lol no bugs in beta? Thats a funny joke there XD
In beta its possible, if you see it in live someone flying without a cape... Thats another matter
If you see someone on fire, they're probably hacking tho
I’m worrying more than I should; Beta is broken anyways
but
but i wanna watch a skykid on fire
Lol anxiety is my name and worry is my game
You can always place your skykid on-top of campfires

true
Yum yum kentucky fried moth
It's okay, just keep in mind that beta is bound to be a bit messy and if something comes to live they will make sure that it's not in the same state. Don't stress yourself too much about it, it's not in our hands anyway. 
Beta can test the ability of those of us who have anxiety and other disorders to find a balance. We just do what we can, and hopefully we can do it being mindful of our health and being content in the fact that we are helping the company. The best way to look at it for me is to not worry about the bigger picture, we just take care of what is in front of us..further speculation is just heartache waiting to happen.
can someone show me what the emotes look like
What's in our hands tho is reporting if we see something which isn't working as it should and tell them what and why we like and dont like the things they gave us to test. If you do these, you did all what you can to make it the best season possible. If you Didn't find any bugs? Yay things are working
. If you feel tired or frustrated because of the bugs relax a little and check back when you are ready to do so. Beta will still be here after.
The icons or the emotes itself? I think there is some footage about the latter one in beta screenshots channel, thi first im not sure
@mighty estuary hey uh did you do the "small sky" thing in ios or android
the emotes, like the animations
Did they change the ultimate gift?? 
i think youd have better luck finding those on youtube, beta testers arent exactly obligated to fulfill requests (also these could change.. again)
sorta kinda..? depends on what youre asking.
yes they added the trumpet. no its not replacing the ult cape; cape is just missing because of a bug.
Wait then there's 4 ult gifts? Or its just a bug?
Not a bug that how it is
Missing cape is a bug
Hopefully the cape came back, I like how it looks 
yes theres 4 ult gifts. mask, cape, bucket hat and trumpet
Same why’d it go 😭
because bugs ate it :)
This is going to be an intresting season
I’m literally gonna be so sad if we can’t get the cape I really wanted it it was so good
guys its a bug its literally written in #beta-known-issues
it'll come back!
Oh thank god yay
/You guys sure skybots not behind the cape dissapearence ?
Maybe, just maybe they ate the cape stock 
And the one assembly guide is wearing I s the last one and they're trying to restock it 
a torn blanket cape is one of a kind so i understand the stock would be limited 😔
How many ultimate gifts for the season of Assembly?
There should be 4 but at the moment one is missing due to a bug
The cape right?
Okay, tysm 
An idea for a more realistic ingame laugh sound.
Ah yes, sky is actually a horror game confirmed
Also, a creepy music box since it´s the only instrument I can play.
TornBlanketCape — def needs to be ™️
A white noise tv set just to creepily stare at it.
why are we turning sky into a horror game
is it because of the audio bug?
Now I really want a creepy TV set for ult why do you put that idea into my head? 
One reason i can think of: Little Nightmares II hype
Vault can be a fit for a horror season
uhm that's alrdy exists..||offices space day tv meeting room|| and it is creepy
mlk I was about to say the same thing lmao 
I wish we got a season in which we explore more area in the space, like the office one and orbit
we have the same mind emma, this isn't the first time. and i beat u to it. 
Audio bug?
Is this same bug that I heard in prarie where it sounded like GW :pThink:
Still really want a season in eden... 
A season to stare death in its eyes 
Well, theres the beeping noise in the races and the missing audio (steps, music notes, honk)
A season that let's us see eden as it was before the darkness came....
space day tv, full halloween krills and corruption bug on your skid? maskless bald capeless skids outside the door 
the audio feature is full of bugs, idek how it made it to live.... my entire game audio buggs out sometime i have to reset game
Skid.
Tok tok who’s there 👀
Oh god... to make it worse... play on android and wear sanctuary cargo pants
Great now our Skykids are just skid marks on the ground. Skids... Smh what have you done.
I only had it once or twice during testing, and it was intermittent. Seems to be the same type of bug but live is just much worse.
It was a nice cozy place to stay is all 
yes for a sec i thought my ipad broke, it's like that wired explosion sound bug in eden for some devices back then
game audio only bugs out on my ipad not my android
however my android has the oversize UI bug which is awful to look at so playing live is do I wanna play with my game audio messed up or my UI messed up 
I spam honked Kai during testing to reproduce it btw (they just happened to be with me at the moment the bug happened
sorry again Kai 
A creepy ventriloquist doll that would move the mouth while you type on the keyboard.
I've had weird audio stuff as well on my ipad, it comes and goes
Why choose when you can experience both 
luckily I wasn't looking at my screen 
TGC please slow down I beg
why do people assume tgc is tripping over themselves to bring out updates
Heya! Just wanted to know because they moved everything around, did they completely get rid of the Season Guide's cape as a cosmetic you can buy? Or is it with another one of the spirits?
The UI is too big on the main one and some stars overlap for the other pages when the name is too long
Please read #beta-announcements carefully@worldly saddle
probably because some updates go live with bugs still in them
from that perspective it's not an unreasonable assumption. also events do come and go pretty fast. I can keep up cuz I've been around a while and own like everything. newer players tho are probably like
also it is a small team. hard to believe with how amazing the content they put out it but Ktjn said at some points there were as little as 2 people working on the entire android platform.
so just be sure as beta players to help the devs out. give your feedback, report your bugs, play test when you can so they get that backend data from you being on the servers. 
it feels like that to a handful of people I know, including me, but I’m trying to become more neutral
and I am
So true so true
Even when cr all I could hear was either just wind or the rain in forest, my friends complained aswell
There’s like, 4 ultimate gifts this season, so which one will TGC pick for the emoji?
Personally I would like to see it be the pot
pot should be the top one because pot is best 
Stickers are small so cape and the mask won't make much sense
I'm expecting the pot or trumpet
Most probably pot because trumpet seems like a normal item
I can't see it as a ultimate
Ye, and the pot has a better silhouette
Pot hat is more distinct.
Is there any other item with a similar silhouette?
@pale junco whenever I look at ur pfp I'm met with cursed vibes
👁️ᴗ👁️ good
bring back the cape 
It's a bug chill
it'll probably be back in the next patch update or so 
Hey there! I'm using Android
What is small sky 👁️ 👁️
Please please please change the trumpet with the cape as ultimate gift again. We have 6 spirit but only got 1 cape is absurd.
is there another set of candle aside vault isle forest and valley?
Seasonal candle?
normal candle
🤔🤷🏽♂️
you mean the new candle locations since daily light hit live? best to ask that in #questions-and-help' now since it's a live feature
no i’m just asking if have coz i’ve been playing beta for a very quite long time and i found 1 secret candle in prairie and i just wondering if it was a bug
I agree, I want the instrument to be more widely accessible, and having 4 ults is a bit much tbh
Although the cape is only missing and was not replaced with the instrument or mask, it'll return in a future patch
Yeahh. Cuz the cape look weirdly cute and really rare. I want it 😂
I would be content with the 3 ults, give folks back the trumpet.
guide doesnt even use the trumpet so i dont see why they should provide it as an ult lol
Ohhhh which one😱
Haven't found in daylight
Guide doesn't use it yet, i think in new cutscenes they will
trumpet to assemble others?
guys where’s the TS?
#questions-and-help but its in valley
thanks so much!
Yeah, we have yet to have a finale cutscene.
we haven't had a final cutscene proper since rhythm though
since enchantment the final cutscene was just the cutscene of finishing the last quest.
Season of assembly looks adorable ._.
I don't like the ultimate gift but the rest looks so cute!!!
Makes me think of fairies :3
Wow there are new candles in Prairie?
where is it?
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I just keeping thinking about that finale from Dreams. 😭
But even that was more of a quest since you had actual interaction. I'm hoping for something similar I suppose.
Is the scolding student green cape AP now or it stays free to get?
beta spirit trees are still subject to change so its best to wait until it goes live for relying on what's AP vs what's not. we've had multiple tree shuffles already and looks like at least one more coming
Did the beta link thing end😞?
Hello @hexed walrus
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we didn't get a new invite for assembly. TGC now sends invites on an as needed basis instead of between every season now so follow skybots instructions and read beta faq to learn more and to sign up to be pinged when invites go out again
Hello @random gull
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oops
skybot is working overtime today 
Pink cape is agony to get... Takes weeks and weeks and i'm only halfway through affording it!
I'm still too lazy to really get base game stuff. people thought I blocked them on beta cuz I never collect my light 
That is literally me in live lmao
so does anyone know about the new candles in prairie please? are there any?
I want to draw a skykid having their hair ruffled by Bloom QG but be clearly disturbed by the freakishly long fingers
I wonder if the model will look like that in live too
we'll see in a few days
skybot go brr oop was reading backlog
Apparntly there are krills in Vault, because i can hear them so clearly in here /hj 
I sort of hope so
hmm... so the Bloom tree will be coming to Live like it was in Beta? how you can just sit under it and collect wax while chatting with your friends?
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Or at least the dev update seems to imply that
The tree will come when days of bloom starts 
Putting down a chat prop i guess, or if you have chat unlocked then just chat as u do normally.
i cant buy the ultimate mask becuz i already got the cape and hat before the update
😅😅
skybot is doing a good job today 
oh
can you record some footage of small sky maybe👉👈
What is small sky I- 
oh I don't have that bug and I'm on android 
Omg that really is small sky 
totally not about to try splitscreen and see if it does that
I did not get small sky
I got wide sky
Normal Sky - 
Small Sky - 
Wide Sky - 
!whenisnextbetaupdate
!whatsnewinbeta
Crash fixes 
Anyone knows why orange cap is not avaible? Why cosmetics changed? 
Okay thx
Can someone help me with the seasonal quest?
Ask this in #beta-looking-for-group
how can you tell the chevron has uneven spacing lmao
is this like an ocd kind of thing?
I got someone with better eyesight than me to look at my screenshots 
even with my glasses on the chevrons are just a blob on my screen
You take a screenshot and crop it or just squint intensely
if you look when ppl were posting theirs it's actually pretty noticeable for some
mine were fine bc I'm on an ipad, was squinting to look at the breaking animation though lol



🥭
Justice for mango Assembly cape
🥭



(I mean the first ult cape not the one it was replaced with)
yours is def uneven, the top and mid chevrons are spaced bigger than mid and bottom 
does anyone know what season there was in beta in November?
would the assembly scouts sell assembly scout cookies 👀
im drawing that now brb
yes
dreams beta started in november i think??
Yes. Yes it is.
thanks
anytime
Ooo and what if the cookies are creature shaped, like manta cookies or something
was thinking of drawing animal crackers but sky creatures the other day lol
how can you tell im so confused
#OCDLife101
Maybe I need to squint at it more, looks pretty even to me 
legit it still doesnt look uneven
i just zoomed it in way more
it doesnt look uneven
The ones that were uneven were really obviously even, so I guess if you have to count pixels then it's close enough 
Yes. It does.
Cookies in the shape of the old Rhythm pendant? 
The top & middle space is most definitely larger than the middle & bottom.
gah now I'm second guessing myself idk anymore it does kinda look uneven 
It looks even to me too, it might just be an optical illusion that it’s uneven 
IT IS UNEVEN. THE E GOD IS DISPLEASED 
Who?
The E God.
That's not for us to decide, if you think it's uneven simply pass it onto the devs
K but I'm not gonna be petty over a something so trivial.
It may look uneven to me, but almost everyone agrees that it's not, so it's whatever.
And I know it's not for us to decide, like, why would you take me being an E god seriously.
i dont get it, whos the e god
King Kalor is
i still dont get it
E God = god of E
Existential dread.
Alright fellas I’m going to attempt the quest that requires two people again. Wish me luck
Thank you for aknowledging the God of E. You get a free trip throughout the realm to test for bugs and do some Oob shenanigans. (Free 2 Claim whenever as long as I'm not busy lmao)
Hi everyone.. I recently entered beta, and before that, I saw many changes associated with the cape (ultimate reward) and, now i can't see this cape, only mask, dis hair like pot, and trumpet 🧎
I can't figure out if the cape has been completely removed, is it replaced with a mask or it will be returned? ...that cape was so cool tbh :pEyes:
read #beta-known-issues
is it completely legal to use it to steal butterfly elder's butterfly jar
Are props going to stay as backpacks?
Let's see how many of the stuff we want will stay free in the season's release LOL
That's a terrible idea....to the feedback I go
I'm 50/50 on it, supposedly it'll make more sense once the feature associated with it is implemented in a future patch, so I'll be waiting until then
I think they're adorable, I just can't tell them apart 
yea i dont see a difference
Yeah, maybe it'd be better if the little Assembly logo on the pack was replaced with a little logo of the item? Idk
Yes.
perfect i want the butterfly jar
To my knowledge, there is no new beta invites coming???
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Yea I'm also confused how people recently joined 😂
For android they might have gotten lucky, but otherwise might've gotten in illegitimately 
Lucky how?
A majority of the players I've met have gotten in illegitimately
google play runs beta differently from testflight does. if somebody opts out of beta, it allows new people to take those spots even without a new invite. so there are legit moths in beta who found sky on the google play store and opted into beta by chance. and have no idea what they're doing
that's not to say that every moth you see got in on that specific chain of events but it's possible to be a completely legitimate and clueless moth in beta
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someone remind me not to say the i word because skybot gonna revolt at me one day 
Oo i thought can't join without 🔗
Thank you for info:stickerLove:
Hehe the I word
You could say Lvites instead since lowercase L looks like an i "lnvites" 
Hello! Can anyone tell me if the removal of the Ultimate gift cape for the upcoming season is a bug or not? Or is it official?
Someone told me invs went out 2 weeks ago. And I was like "what no they didn't??"
the season started about then in beta
maybe they meant that? people certainly came in a mad rush thinking invites had come. I blame people on facebook for saying to come to discord for invites without providing context lol
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587794151408402534/822185306827915274/video0.mov
It's too hard to get a candle for free. The task is to sit on a stool with a stranger.
Sorry, in my game the season of dreams is already over.. can't help..
Yeah, thanks. I was just complaining about the stool.
Maybe better give feedback to developer directly..
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
thanks
Wait what?
Did you just say you couldn't find it and then found it mid sentence
excuse me
Maybe it's the W word that triggered skybot
Where
Yeah it was wondering hwere feedback was and then said to go to feedback hmm
purposeful misspell so skybot doesn’t have to work harder lol
Sky bot what the heck you had one job.
what happens if we spoiler tag it ||where is the tree||
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
discord text formatting doesn't seem to stop the bots. copy and paste fonts do though
where is my life?
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
damn, who knew #beta-feedback could help me find my life
Maybe ur life is in TGC
sky
They got it as soon as I downloaded sky 
Anyone who before the update finish constellation? Bcs I did I have no clue how I can get mask?!
I'm sad..
you don’t

What if the beta season cloak is gone and my love is gone?Will it be compensated later?
Skybot, where is happiness?
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Well then I'm gonna cryy
Not me having to choose between cape or instrument 
The cape is missing because of a bug, it’ll be back 
Where is our Ult Cape.
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
I guess you should head to #beta-feedback 
Me? OK thxx
Jokes aside, you should really go there
Oh? Best oobs exist in the Valley? Ok~ I'll explore there more 
Well imo the two stadium oobs and flying into the sun underneath the Dreams areas are really nice

I already know the Elder Oob, but I actually havnt tried oobing in Valley much
There is no compensation in beta. Please read #beta-faq before joining the test version of the game. 🙂
How do you do the prop glitch again?
After the update, which map should I start my candle run from?
!betareward if you mean the beta cape that was a one time thing
The Beta Cape was a one-time reward for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
Stand on a prop except feast or regular table (those dont work) open emote menu and tap on the prop icon really fast. If you are in energy saving mode its easier.
I don’t think it matters what realm you start at, fastest might be the realm with the cakes for the day maybe? 
I heard some people said they are getting less candles for a full candle runs after the update
I'm not sure how that is related to the ultimate cape...? But if you didn't play in the pre-release beta you can't have the beta cape, but you can get the Founder's one in the office.

imo they kind of nerfed candle runs
i only got 18 candles out of the ~19.5 candles i usually get
That’s because it’s more of meant to get less candles but be quicker since they don’t really want collecting candles to be grindy
and they’re still balancing it out so it gives the same amount of before
Wouldn't it have been easier to keep all the current candles, but make it so the candle meter fills up even quicker?
It’s not fully balanced yet iirc
I guess but they don’t want it to be to overpowering to just get 10 candles in a quick 10 minutes 
i mean
they just need to make it fill a little faster
its not like make it fill 10x faster
have you heard of scale factor?
Well that wouldn’t make much of a difference then
The new system gives full cr people more of a disadvantage, not only does it take more time, but it also gives less candles rn
Also it’s difficult trying to balance it which is why it’s not totally balanced
Well here’s what Ktjn said before, not the quote I was looking for exactly but probably the most recent #beta-discussion message
it doesnt really take much more time imo
Isle and the trials tho
@languid flare has what it takes to pass these trials 
well trials already had candles
they were just less noticeable because they were smaller bunches
but i just take the normal route without seasonal areas
You aren’t forced to cr everywhere or even at all really
the people that run everywhere are technically a minority and this is supposed to help those with less time/motivation to cr since the thought of having to play for hours can be daunting 
Question: when you're at the lowest collection rate is that just the normal wax rate?
Nope it’s wayyy slower 
Yup.
It is way slower.
However, the new system isn't meant to be fully candle ran.
You can if you want too... But only spending 20-45 minutes getting 5-12 candles a day, then spending time with friends is how it's supposed to go.
lowest collection rate (grey candle) seems not to move at all, it's a true "hey, this is enough" signal tbh

Sparkie, wassup?
If you have a question about the system and why TCG decided to do it, don't be afraid to ask.
Am just sad my calculations for Ts went wrong with today candle.... Second time I'll have to miss the bell
Hey, you have 4 days. If you spend 10-20 minutes to get 7-10 candles a day, you'll get the bell. Even at 0 candles.
Full CR feels impossible to balance around anyways, given the way new content works on sky. Either new areas have to barren of wax, or full CR gets that much longer.
In a season or two and full CR could easily hit the soft cap on wax. Few more seasons after that?
Idk I used to be a full CR player and for me that ended the first time a full CR included the water trial.
I won't be able to CR on Sunday.... Hence I did calculations ....
But anyway... I came to beta channel to ask the situation of the candle system here ..... Is it the same as live right now??
Yeah trying to balance for the future is hard, must be stressful for the devs
I imagine the cap might increase in the future though, I bet the Bloom tree and maybe wax added for assembly could help with having more wax than the cap for now maybe 
How many candles do you have now? Did you do a full Candle run today?
How many candles do you currently have? 17?
I spent it all on mask and hearts for emote unlock 
I mean I have 17 now yea
I used to have 200+ candles usually....went broke on unlocking constellations

......wait.... 17..... Rn..... 3 days..... 51
You have 17 candles. Assuming this is Beta you want the Bell in, we aren't going to count the QG candles that Live has.
If you took a minimum amount of 5 candles, for Friday & Saturday, that puts you at 27. That means you would need 13 candles left.
Split 10 of those between Friday & Saturday. Now you're at 37. 3 candles left. So you would be farming 10 for tomorrow and Saturday. Now you can either collect an extra candle and a half both of those days, or collect the final three (easily, takes like 5 minutes) on Sunday. But 10 candles takes around 15 to 20 minutes to get, so adding another candle and a half shouldn't add that much time.
So you'll be fine if you don't skip a day.
:O

nice one
And a very nice one hehe
Ah this is an English server so that it’s easier to moderate 
:'D
Is an one in Valley right know
Isle has the most candles in any area if you include going through the challenges.
14 cakes and some other candles 
Is the torch an item from one of the seasonal spirits?
Or maybe a more direct question; how will the torch be available?
The torch is from the Seasonal Spirit "Marching Adventurer" it's the last item to claim before the seasonal heart. (as of right now)
@jolly kiln what does a tear drop mask symbolize?
;O
I searched it up, it has to do with prison tattoos and stuff 
Interesting, I kind of just saw it as a crying face lol 🥲
Yeah I never even made that connection 
I don’t think it’s a big issue though, I don’t think we have to always associate the simple things with more convoluted meanings :( a tear drop mask can just be that - a tear drop mask, if you keep censoring with the fear of connecting something then, there’s no end to it... apophenia I tell you apophenia
It has many meanings. I like the meaning of loss of a close friend. I mean, we go to Eden a lot. What if the teardrop signifies when we die and server split before finishing orbit together?
Or it could just be 🥲 cause scaredy cadet is too scared to step out into the rain
Too scared to go into PNR? 
PNR? What does that mean? :O
Statue area. Point of no return.

Tear drop is facepalm, not scaredy. So it’s actually tears from slapping their own face one too many times 
Scaredy cadet has such an adorable emote, the animation is just 💯
did tgc change the ultimate rewards? 🥺
they just added two, the mask and the horn. the pot hat and cape will still be ults 
Ty!
ahh i see thank uu ^_^
4 ult gifts is a lot tho isnt it
I couldn't afford to clone more than 17 times 
so are the scattered candles cupcakes then 
hi guys, im new to here, but i need to ask this question. what happened to the season ultimate reward(cape)? did they remove it?
still an ultimate gift, just missing from the quest guide
so i will be able to get it later?
I don’t know for sure. it depends if the dev wanna fix it in beta or not. if we can’t get it in beta, there will be live
hope they will fix it, or i will never get it
Ahoy. You do your homework, yet? Need to take cake to some eden oob exploration
Going to beta, I can do homework while doing beta
Multitasking
oh no I got taller from resize qwq I might be max height nooooo
No, finish homework first, it's a beautiful sight, can't be distracted. 
it's french and math, you don't need to think while doing those
Is it true that there are 4 ultimate gifts this upcoming season? I'm considering buying the ap for myself and some friends 
As of right now yes, stuff in beta is always subject to change though 
Thanks
I'll keep that in mind!
I'm hoping they.. put the rain back in the treehouse area. Even after completing seasonal tasks.. I loved sitting inside and listening to the rain.. especially with how heavy it was... rain is such a vibe.
Oh sorry for the ping just woke up
i will record some when i can, for now i only have one 🤔
No im not tho 🤔
oh no where is mom
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
okay TGC took my mom
ah ryuu it’s probably best not to make that type of joke here (the emosji message).
for me it looks like "lmao" i understand thank you for warning me 
CLHSGXK WHAT
Has the object teleportation thing been fixed yet? If not, how do you do it? (pls ping me if you have an answer)
Prop teleport has not been fixed and went to live
you stand on top of the prop and then click right after the cool down ends, it’s better at energy saving mode but I’m not the best at it either way 
It doesn't work with chat tables tho

realization when you aren't the only child
It does with the campfire 🙂
Am I the only one who’s ts is buggy as in the pass doesn’t work for it?
it’s been like that since we tested 3 ts in a row. at that time we can claim free items if we have the ap
If you have strong feelings about game content, share feedback here: #beta-feedback
Who?

Is the cape still exist ? The one that at ultimate gift before
the placeholder cape? i loved it! i hope it comes back again 
It missing as a ult is a bug. It will return in a future update, most likely. It will be an ult in live for sure though.
Yeah it is a bug that it isn’t showing!
Most of the instruments I can play, I don't even have, are from my elementary school, my teacher was super great, I have a whole list of it :D, that's how my musical side came to being. I really liked the African drums, and kinda want them to be in sky
Ahh i see, thanks hahaha
two minutes later:
oh wait we have 4 ults?!
its a lot. i feel like its too many
Still waiting for a recorder and it to play out of tune if you hold the note down. 
i would appreciate being able to hold notes on more instruments (ive put it on the wishlist)
I know how to play land of the silver birch and this other canadian song about canoes,
canoes when
in my culture we have some unique instruments that may fit really well for the game’s environment. i don’t expect them to appear anytime soon, and i still enjoy some items that remind me of my indigenous culture
I without a doubt will play titanic theme song
/ If we can hold down the notes, I'd imagine it'd be limited to some Instruments only
And it would work similarly like that one big, but the notes are smooth instead of going janky 
yeah i put horn and piano as the examples on the list
nah, hold my drums
because they would make sense yk
as for the trumpet/horn
i better see trumpet memes soon 
piano crescendo
I miss my rapid firing prophecy drum. 
It would ruin the purpose of the big and small bells
trumpet kid in sky
me who can kinda play groumet (I so bad at spelling, delizyixa pain) race
groumet race..... we love to see it
my friend and i recreated the kid trumpet meme where i was doing the
stance and my friend played the trumpet
is even better
doot doot
Yeah 
I also learned gourmet race. Now to figure out how to play the rest with two hands :"0
The trumpet and that music was meant to be 
gourment race! i didn’t realize that it was playable in sky, thanks for the reminder 
I know half of the beginning of world revolving, but very very very slowly
I can do anything, but very very very slowly (deltarune reference btw)
i should see if some of pokemon’s themes from hoenn are playable in sky as well, since they’re all TRUMPET INTENSE
the trumpet has great meme potential, i hope y'all use it wisely
I WAS GONNA ARRANGE ROUTE 113 HOW DID YOU KNOW
no u
Still waiting for you to play "taps" or "assembly." (Military bugle calls) 
Never heard of it, but "spamming" seems nice enough
flashbacks to you crashing
Taps is the one played at the end of the day on a military base or during funerals. Assembly is the one that's done during first formation of the day, or to bring everyone back to base in formation when out in the field.
I might do flanders fields, or idk 
I think the krill sound effect in vault was on live too right?
Taps had a sad connotation now imo
I have sheet music saved of other bugle calls that I found online, I just need to get about learning them I know seven nation army and my band's stand licks though if that counts
alright that’s enough trumpet talk for me, i’m heading off. have fun everyone 
wait wait 
before you go 
🎺 starts playing coconut mall
i’ve been coconut mall’d on a sky server, i can’t escape
Oooo that's another good one 
Still waiting for a saxophone instrument, so I can start playing Jazz music in Sky. 
when my friends don't realize I coconut mall'd them qwq
I insert the common song for suspicious youtube links since lyrics are censored you once before
Never gonna? That one?
You tried to, but I knew what it was and never followed the link. 
but I did it in sky once 
you'll never be trolled if you like the song though. 😎
And crashed my game because of it. 
and 10 seconds blackout for your neighbours
Same here since it’s the instrument I actually play irl 
I got one too! It needs it's pads replaced though. They're pretty bad.
🎷
Moth plays the sax

world revolving in sax
then you can play careless whisper with an actual saxophone 
it's raining somewhere else on sax 
Playing the lyrics of "my heart will go on" with an Alto sounds really good and could be good music for pnr. 
Already submitted feedback in the proper channels for it, but wouldn't doing the quests and getting wax from objectives be a good thing overall? I E: grabbing the scavenger hunt objectives yields a small amount of wax, or the darkness plants give wax, or the hoops you fly through give wax. Ideas?
It's also an incentive for those who completed to redo them, in turn helping new players complete the quest for the first time.
Spirit memories give wax, birds and mantas give wax, dreams gives wax, collecting ark lights give wax, playing music gives wax, krills give wax
Honking gives wax

Krill give what? 


Omg no plz
I play with krills when I'm lonely
Full candle for being krilled 
Same. They just need a chew toy to be satiated.
it's so fun being rocketed, and when friend warps, I warp to them before krill attac
i still think itd be worth it to lose 1 WL per minute in exchange for the ability to ride on krill 😔
server split says: my winged light now
If i have 150✨ how many candles i can get in a day just by getting krilled
Friend: HI CAKE
me: don't warp in 2 seconds please
150/4 ( assuming you dont move to pick up any WL you drop) = 37.5?
Hahahah only one for obvious reasons ofc
The hard cap. Which we've gathered was around 23-25 candles a day.
Lemme get krilled

Reminds me of the time when I got server split from my friend so I rejoined and right as I warped to them a krill attacked them and my WL was gone

thats no fun give me 37.5 candles
Wait so you get candles when you get krilled?
in my world you do <3
xF
I lose my 160 wings for fun even without a reward 
Fun is the reward
my friend was upset about the candles being faster because now they end up not having anything to do faster
Hm. I wonder how it feels to have 1 wedge again. 
i told them to start playing music and they said "but i dont get candles or hearts from that" which is. not the best way to go about this
completely normal, I went prop oobing with uzephi, and went extremely high with 4 wedges, I had a teaset and it was hard to land on
If I'm flying with friends, number of wings don't matter to me. I find it pretty easy with even one wing. And you charge way faster when you have low wing number. So I am not fan of getting 11 wedges after every Eden trip 
Are there wings in this season?
If you bought before yeah, right now you can’t purchase it from the qg because of a bug though 
I don't care so much about wing count in Beta.
I still feel bad if I get someone krilled (sorry again Pakka)😅
I just want enough to do what I need to.
Live is different, unless I know for certain I'm going right back to Eden the next weekend.
they better not add a pin for wasteland warp, or I will krill everyone
Caaaaaake, accept my heart so I can give you another one, dangit. 
If we end up friends in Beta, Cake, I know what I won't be unlocking with you!🤣
everything, until I run out of candles
@carmine thorn it's 12am I can't go on beta qwq
The one in live.
tried to give you another and it says you still haven't accepted my first.
Why did TGC add so many candles? Now it's more tiring to get up to 20 candles than before
:0 qwq I feel bad because I don't light light back, also why so many hearts :0
The candles were added as part of the new Daily Light system..they have placed many so you can choose where to run. Full candle runs are now not so much encouraged, as it can be deemed boring, repetitive, and an unhealthy way to spend time in sky when you could be spamming emotes and goofing off with friends. (Sorry, thought I hit reply, Raor).
It is also to balance the new system. We used to get 14 or 15 max in beta before they add those new candles. Now they have added more we can get as much as previous system. It just takes way longer 
hopefully it can be adjusted though, because if TS prices stay the same then it still creates the pressure to grind for as many candles as possible
I was thinking about the new TS system to balance daily light 
bringing that change would be great but its been a while since we heard from the devs in regards to the TS system so im not sure what theyre planning to do with it 
Yea cuz last time still upset many people
lol i think people will always be upset no matter what TGC chooses to do
although ill support their decisions if it means majority of the players can breathe easier
Were the bookshelf and the camp removed?
They were pulled from the spirit trees to be reworked. If you bought them before they were removed, you still have them. They will return at a later date.
No, they're still in the game, just not in the trees. Uzephi nyoom 
do we report people with mask and cape together
Hmm. I would assume so as that wouldn't be possible, I think.
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