iPhone 6S
#beta-discussion
valid terrace
tiny umbra
F
mellow atlas
@tiny umbra @valid terrace If u still need help (I also just wanna say something too XD) : beta is currently 1.17GB, and if theres new areas added and stuff it’ll grow ofc, and the more unused storage a device has, the faster it’ll run
tiny umbra
Gonna dedicate Sunday to clearing my entire storage so I’m not running on 0.5 gb
exotic sentinel
Hi guys I want to say something, today at afternoon i collect all the 4 seasonal candles which gave me 4 seasonal candles, and now it's morning I back again to like the notes and saw all the plants and seasonal candles were there again so I got 12 seasonal candles!! Is it a bug or something? Can anyone check them too ?
icy falcon
same here
exotic sentinel
Woooowwww it's weird but niiceee XD❤️
icy falcon
all seasonal candles, regular candles and plants reset sometime before 5pm pst it seems. My friend's quests even reset, tho mine didn't
exotic sentinel
Hmmm do you mean that after the real reset i will not see the candles i got now ?!! Noo I didn't even finish today's CR yet 🥺
icy falcon
no i meant that i did a full candle run earlier today and when i logged on again around 5pm everything had reset
exotic sentinel
So it will reset again at the real time right?
icy falcon
i would assume so since quests were still in wasteland
sullen relic
Just went in to check: I'm seeing plants and red candles reset in beta, but the more event-related ones (quests, the valley race candles) haven't reset.
Not seeing the same thing on live, so I'm guessing it's a beta-specific reset bug or oddity.
exotic sentinel
Ooh okkii , thank you for your time and to answering me 🥰💕💕@st.snu#7102
@sullen relic we were just talking about the same thing XD
icy falcon
yeah quests and slide didn't reset for me, but flying did and quests reset for my friend
sullen relic
yeah, i just checked live and beta after what you said to see if it's affecting both sides or a beta-only bug
rain delta
Looks like it’s a beta only bug.. don;t see it on live :O but was able to 6 extra seasonal candles in beta
modern storm
What features will be added in the next update?
tiny umbra
Does it stay if you log out and go back home ? 
modern storm
Can you become a beta player if not accepting the beta invite?
tiny umbra
Nope @tiny umbra
@rain delta WAIT mine did
rain delta
Whaaaaaa 🤣🤣😂
modern storm
No one answered my question
vapid briar
@modern storm third party downloads of beta are against ToS, please uninstall the version of beta you illicitly obtained.
south owl
hey guys , anyone know how that screen translation work ingame chat . A icon appears to translate it
random gull
i believe they're using deepl translation services now
sullen relic
to actually translate messages in-game (only works on the beta version), open up the full chat log on the left side of your screen and try tapping directly on any message -- it'll make the icon show up on the message you just tapped, and tapping the icon will make the game try to translate the message into whatever language your phone is currently set to (may occasionally fail for certain messages)
south owl
@random gull @sullen relic thanks so much 
hearty pelican
sullen relic
it's two days (starting from the next reset) until the season ends in beta according to the current timer -- the current beta wave itself should remain active until we actually get an announcement in here that it'll be ending in preparation for the next wave
so it's more like "2 days until your excess seasonal candles convert", and now you have to think about how to spend them 
rain delta
The ts I want to spend on will dip before then :’D so I guess I’ll just cry in a corner
hollow cloak
I just played live for the first time in weeks and found some spicy graphics glitching there, nothing like anything I've seen on beta 
That probably means the bugs are either related to my device or Android 11, and not just beta 
Edit: or rather, it isn't exclusive to beta, because whatever causes the bugs there also exists in live
I can't think OR type because it's 2 AM so I'm just going to sleep and think about this later 
late mountain
Goodnight Soap ^^
wary zephyr
is it the travel Spirit leave with the season at the same time in beta?
sullen relic
that's right jerry, so you won't be able to use your leftover seasonal candles as regular ones until after the travelling spirit is gone
weary timber
wooden raptor
@sullen relic best use of the candles; double hearts event 😋
sullen relic
that is exactly what i'm waiting for, yes
wooden raptor
I can't wait to see when it's gonna happen 
desert mango
I got to say to anyone on beta who is not sure if to get a iPhone 12 /12 pro/12 pro max , I highly recommend as it’s just amazing how it performs ...even though sky is not optimized yet .. it still runs awesome /I’d say a stable 50 fps ...changing settings don’t have much effect so their is definitely some issues their .. but will have to wait until tgc brings a update for optimization ...just for test purposes I download a game I know my iPhone XS Max struggled on with lag etc (which made me uninstal it lol )that has already been optimized ...runs amazing and the phone is a gaming beast .
Sky is 100 percent playable no problem but my iPhone XS Max (with a cooler) plays sky better than my 12 pro max for now ... without a cooler it’s unplayable on iPhone XS Max ... 12 pro max for sure don’t need a cooler as it don’t get that hot ..
I know choice of phone depends on how sky runs for many people including me so just wanted to clear that up that optimization is everything 
sullen relic
not quite a beta-specific thing, but i love how spontaneous boogie parties start in the 8 player puzzle room now 
copper bison
boogie parties can start anywhere and for absolutely no reason. one person could be just randomly boogie-ing and then someone could join in and suddenly you have the entire server partying
it's a lot of fun
sullen relic
oh, i like the peeps in this room:
- boogieing for a while at 7 players waiting for a last one
- 8th player arrives, everyone honks wildly to stop boogieing and light puzzle
- once elevator starts going up, we go right back to boogieing as celebration dance
random gull
i was in home space for a good 8 hours with boogie while afk 
late mountain
I saw you there Kai, you had a party going
random gull
dark was watching over me while I tried to sleep a bunch of my friends joined and some random grey kids too
copper bison
earlier (like hours ago) i was going to go on a few last minute errands in sky before i headed off sky for the day but got distracted by kai with boogie and just ended up joining the party and not getting those errands done
prisma swallow
The 999 hearts capeless is only in beta right?
late mountain
Yes, its only in beta. As far as I know the only way to go capeless in live is by having zero stars and glitches if you're not a super fresh moth.
random gull
yeah capeless live requires you to die outside of eden and have a friend with warp unlocked so you can warp out of the dark room without accepting the star that returns your cape. and you can't fly that way but some people like it
prisma swallow
Yeah thanks 
random gull
it's best to just report them in game (if you can) and move on. we're askedno t to talk about ith ere
rancid wigeon
hello you have a bug in the game, in the secret forest
in the secret forest, there is a place where it does not rain, and there in the sky there is a hole in which you fly and you will start walking across the sky as if on earth (I cannot send screenshots, so if you want to write to me in private messages and I will send screenshots )
random gull
that's an out of bounds area. sometimes the areas outside the intended boundaries of the gameplay area will behave weirdly with invisible walls or floors.
rancid wigeon
Ok
hollow compass
@rancid wigeon If you find a bug in beta, please use #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android . But as Kai said above, this sounds like an oob and isn’t strictly considered a bug.
silent ingot
I don't understand why in the beta half of the traveling minds pay with the adventure pass. if elcore we didn't need to spend candles and hearts afterwards, but no, you need both that's nonsense I think. anyone know why?
random gull
they haven't adjusted the prices yet for the new system. right now we're just providing feedback on the idea since it really hasn't changed anything with IAPs being free in beta and basically everyone having an adventure pass anyways
silent ingot
Yes ok i see thanks for your answer^~^
valid terrace
My biggest criticism of the concept is affordability and currency conversion
random gull
I think one of the things that got said is TGC will be losing money on this because people buy candle packs to complete TS trees and the people who buy candle packs probably already also buy the AP so that's less IAPs being made not more. This decision wasn't made on a money side of things at least
spark lance
When the new season starts in beta? 
random gull
we don't know. the current season is stil going in beta and they need to do access wipes and new invite waves before the season can even start so it'll be a bit. keep an eye on #beta-signup-info and #beta-announcements though
cedar holly
How many days are left in the season over there? ‘,:0 You guys only have a few days left, right?
sullen relic
from what the timer currently says, the season itself ends at the same time that the TS leaves (on monday reset) -- that doesn't necessarily mean that this beta testing session is over though
random gull
yeah candles will convert monday so today and tomorrow are our last days to earn candles
cedar holly
Oooohhhh, good luck!! ^^
random gull
I'm gonna have like 400 candles watch me spend them all upgrading friends in like less than a week
sullen relic
i'm hoping our beta access continues until after double hearts event so i can offload them all there, but i'm actually wondering how quickly my candles will drop if i were to send out hearts to everyone in my constellation who can get them
random gull
if it works the way it did in the past we still have access to the game until the game updates. and they typically haven't updated after a wipe but before invites went out
spark lance
What are beta access wipes? Does beta restart after every season?
random gull
yes player access is wiped and you need to rejoin every new season to be able to keep downloading updates! you can read about it in #beta-faq
dire robin
how do i get notified for next wave
random gull
please don't ping random people 
the invites aren't going out yet and you can keep up with that by reading #beta-faq and #beta-signup-info channels
dire robin
oh so there is no notification
prime lintel
As Kai said, read through #beta-faq and #beta-signup-info for more information
all those questions are answered there 
dire robin
kk tanks
hollow cloak
My friends on live thought I was so cool for some minor skips in air trial and I just told them 'haha im not even the best' while thinking of dark's videos
Also, a note about the brightness at the end of Fire Trial - I think it gets worse with friends.
I'd like to confirm this by doing another solo run, but I think the reason why I didn't notice brightness at the end of Fire Trial was because I was alone.
Running it with two friends in live, the end was blinding - one of them held my hand the whole time, and then when the third friend ran up to us, it got even brighter.
So I think the more glowy kids there are, the worse the bloom gets
edit for typos
hollow compass
But hasn't that been adjusted in beta? I haven't done fire trial in beta, but I did do it in Live earlier today and it was blinding with two players there.
random gull
They haven't adjusted it yet as far as I can tell
hollow compass
Oh, I thought it was in the latest patch notes. Did I just dream that? 
finite meteor
man imagine doing fire trial with 8 players and it literally makes the bloom impossibly glowy
its like sourcefilmmaker when i mess up the camera, the bloom is blinding
timid basalt
my sister and i finished fire in live with 2 other players and the end glow hurt us both (not rly painful but if we looked at it long enough we'd both get headaches)
hollow compass
I did go through fire the first time with around 5 players. It was not fun.
hollow cloak
I think that Ktjn just made an announcement that they were going to adjust it and pinned it, but the actual build hasn't been released yet?
Edit: wait it isn't in the pins-
random gull
I did fire with 8 and yes it was awful . someone had to carry me to the meditation circle at the end
sullen relic
yeah, live and beta should be on the same build right now, and as far as i could tell, no brightness adjustments just yet for fire trial in either (or at least, not enough to counteract multi-skykid bloom)
hollow compass
No, the pin is just a general note on photo sensitivity. Argh, do I have to go through fire trial in beta again...?
random gull
#beta-discussion message this is what got pinned. it was over someone being a jerk to me and others about playing sky with photosensitivity. here was another message about the lighting adjustments too
#beta-discussion message
hollow cloak
I could've SWORN that Ktjn had pinned her message that started like "Thank you for the discussion about photosensitivity the other day ..."
Maybe it got unpinned? I don't think my memory is that bad 
random gull
ktjn did pin something very briefly before making the post that got pinned so that might have been what yyou saw soap? it was unpinned by the time I got into the channel to look
hollow compass
No, I think she changed it to the one that is pinned now.
sullen relic
i'm suddenly wondering if wearing sunglasses (IRL) would help at the end of fire trial, but i don't think that's how it works 
random gull
not really ^^; at least not for me
hollow cloak
I honestly don't have the energy to sort this out, so ... Oh well 
Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, Ktjn did say it's being worked on, and that's the relevant matter
hollow compass
Yes, I do hope they can fix it for at least fire trial. The others are already much brighter to begin with, so the contrast isn't as annoying. When I get to the end of fire, I usually look sort of past the screen to avoid the worst of it.
random gull
I've just had the great time of my photosensitivity being worse than normal this week so 8 players at the end of fire was just 
I am excited to see how it gets adjusted though and running it in beta with less skykids deep callin like crazy should help
hollow compass
Why do people keep deepcalling anyway? 😮
timid basalt
to kinda see them thingies if its near i'm guilty of doing that sorry kai if i ever encounter you in fire
random gull
so they can see the candles and the fluffies I thnk? also deep call is a fast recharge
hollow cloak
I half-turned my head away and squinted at my screen while crying internally, my usual method for dealing with glitchy graphics 
Between the glowing, the black smoke and sparks, and the screen shaking... The end is really a nightmare 
Right, deep calling! My one friend deep called the ENTIRE time and thankfully that isn't something that bothers me too much, but I was thinking of the other photosensitive folk here... I think it was to see candles better and recharge our friend who wasn't holding hands with us
hollow compass
I just find it distracting. But perhaps it's useful?
I don't have the time to keep deep calling, especially not when going through alone.
sullen relic
i deep call primarily as a way of seeing what's around me, yeah; as the deep call expands, it causes stuff in the background to get outlined because of how the texture's transparency behaves when it overlaps with certain things (e.g. the fuzzies)
random gull
if you pull out the white candle (like you're gonna upgrade friend but don't upgrade) it acts as both a brighter light and a recharge for the person holding your hand. not so flashy method for making it easier to see
sullen relic
i don't usually deep call continuously, it's more when i get to a candle and i can't immediately tell where the next one is because it's further off into the darkness and i'm not at the right angle/lighting to immediately notice it
"Hey Kai, did you just pick that white candle up off the floor? 
"
hollow cloak
I don't deep call in the trial at all, the contrast is a bit jarring to my eyes and I'd have to readjust to the dark (I was blindly running around in the trial with my two friends, barely even seeing some of the candles anyways, so the constant deep calling was just another layer on the cake)
Now to figure out how to pick up the checkpoint and carry it around
copper bison
i never really had any trouble with direction. i just got lost and accidentally found my way to the end. i didn't really need any light source other than the regular candle. i've never really deep called and stuff 
sullen relic
there're actually quite a few shortcuts in the fire trial from what i'm seeing, but all of them require at least one friend to actually pull off since you can't live in the dark on your own -- but if you really know your bearings, you can walk right around some walls completely off the the candle track
of course, you also run the risk of walking face first into a fluffy if you time it badly 
hollow cloak
I have a very poor sense of direction/navigational skills in real life. Is that why Fire Trial is such a struggle?
sullen relic
that probably adds to it, but fire trial also has the added difficulty of having wall shapes that you can't properly identify because of limited lighting and darkness everywhere (e.g. you can't actually tell what's obscured behind a wall from a bird's eye view because everything's just black)
once you've actually seen the actual map layout once, it becomes a lot easier to grasp a sense of direction in the dark
hollow cloak
A map feels like cheating but honestly maybe I should just look at one...
My problem is that whenever I die, I get disoriented - the fact that there are multiple loops in the map doesn't help me, so sometimes I'll go in circles. My first time through after the adjustments, I literally walked all the way back to the beginning of the second section
random gull
just kinda keep to the left mostly
sullen relic
looking at a map would significantly break one of the things that makes the fire trial challenging, so yeah, i'd recommend against it until you're absolutely sure you're over it
copper bison
yeah, using a map definitely makes it less challenging since you know the general direction of where to go.
i know this because i had to teach my friend how to use the map cause she really couldn't get past the trial and didn't know how to read the map. probably why i did so well in the trial
she still hasn't beaten it yet-
should probably help her but busy
sullen relic
beta update
kindred fossil
UPDOOT
random gull
I was legit about to say that XD
toxic spruce
“Travelling spirit updates”
buoyant wasp
oh it’s been a while, missed this notification 
hollow cloak
Honestly, even if I feel silly, I don't mind being an absolute clown in Fire Trial because I'm good at the platforming Trials like Earth and especially Air.
It's good that TGC varied their design, because my live friends who struggled with Air Trial, etc. breezed through Fire with me and came out saying "that was easy!"
I can't necessarily say Fire is easy for me, but I'm glad they can 
Wait
Update?
//Looks at my unsubmitted bug reports in apprehension
kindred fossil
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
sullen relic
i was just about to go to sleep too, this couldn't have come at a worse time for me 
copper bison
maybe google might let me back on, gonna go try troubleshooting again.
probably not but doesn't hurt to try
random gull
oh good I didn't buy anything off the TS in beta yet so I can actually confirm that after an eden run. anyone wanna run me through eden after work
sullen relic
"Serendipity matchmaking"...that's got me pretty curious about what it is, but the rest of it also looks intriguing
but wait, would the pins even work on beta? i thought they'd conflict with the live app
spark lance
Serendipity what
oh good I didn't buy anything off the TS in beta yet so I can actually confirm that after an eden run. anyone wanna run me through eden after work
@random gull hahsahhs I cannnn, i only have 2 ac
hollow cloak
This is a testflight update notif you're seeing, right? Nothing in beta-updates or the Play Store
I should do Eden but it depends on when you'd be going
sullen relic
yeah, this is on testflight
copper bison
oh yeah true, google usually is delayed on beta updates
might wait a bit then
random gull
I'm off work in a little over an hour.
exotic sentinel
There a new update
hollow cloak
Alright, maybe ping me or something when you're available and I'll let you know if I can do it! 
lunar crown
Update
spark lance
Let me see if my net allows me to downloaded the update
lunar crown
I wonder what updates they made to the TS system
tender oasis
What does serendipity matchmaking for Star means? facebook makes sense i think but have no idea about the star part.
sullen relic
we might need to wait for an actual updates post explaining some of those, the pin ones definitely confuse me a bit
random gull
I'm kinda curious if we link facebook and star pins if it like puts people from facebook and the star community in your server?
static hamlet
Sounds like the same thing for all STAR enabled players
random gull
I don't have my pins yet to really try :/ but I can link facebook I guess
hollow cloak
laughs in no facebook
Looks like I can't test this feature...
copper bison
laughs in has facebook but google being dum and ios phone low storage and too old for testflight
sullen relic
were the two spirits mentioned both isle ones?
lunar crown
I don’t see any visible changes to the TS?
copper bison
point and follow, yeah i think so.
and the "follow me" isle spirit behind the ramp
sullen relic
...it's been a long time since i've relieved , but i don't remember there being other spirits with them in the cutscene
hollow cloak
should be all alone in his cave. Does he have friends now?
random gull
readability might just mean understanding what the spirit's story is supposed to be
sullen relic
oh yeah, it's definitely different -- looks quite a bit cooler (yeah, he has friends he's sending off)
lunar crown
This will definitely be helpful to moths when they go through Isle for their first time
sullen relic
ooh, looks like the other mentioned one also has at least one friend now
okay, the two changed spirits make a lot more narrative sense -- but you guys should definitely check out the changes directly yourself, the second one is particularly interesting
spark lance
Can’t wait currently downloading
sullen relic
all i'm gonna say is that the lore channel is going to go haywire over the "come over here" one
brisk condor
the first one-so far- really gives a lot of insight in the story
late scarab
@sullen relic what come over here one?
hollow cloak
Waiting for Voluntary to show up
Also waiting for Google to catch up 
sullen relic
faze, it's the isle spirit that's below the rock formation where the winged light is
random gull
I thought voluntary wasn't a beta tester and just came here for hype 
or am I mixing them up with someone else?
timid basalt
it showed up in google for me
i just have slow internet
hollow cloak
I don't think they're a tester, but they love all things spirits and I'm wondering what they'll think
Update just showed on Google 
spark lance
no visible change to the ts?
brisk condor
im having the same reaction to these as i would reading/watching a prequel im just sitting here like
kindred fossil
stiiiill updaaating
spark lance
Same
sullen relic
yeah, these are just updates to two old spirit cutscenes, but i'm treating these with the same level of reverence as if it was new seasonal content
spark lance
u got me all hyped up spear
brisk condor
and its crazy too because these new updates completely change what they were meant to be originally or at least they were trying to portray what it is now without the new stuff
hollow cloak
As for the screenshot posted of the Prophecy icon gone from the Questgiver's menus... I'm wondering about how that would work for future seasons
For example, Enchantment's quests had you running all over the realms, while Sanctuary and Prophecy were more local to the actual area. For Enchantment, having the quests only activate if you went to the QG in Ark would be painful.
Does that mean they're planning on keeping the season quests all within the one area from now on, so it isn't logical to have them activate from Home?
gilded parrotBOT
beware the ||mods||
late scarab
Just redid the spirits They are so cool! I love the new stories
kindred fossil
HOOOOLY THE UPDATED SPIRITS
sullen relic
i guess it might've been a bit confusing or redundant in that you saw quests that you weren't allowed to activate or take from home for the recent seasons, but being able to buy the ultimates from home was still a nice touch
hollow cloak
I only have 47% updated
Hmmm... Yeah
I forgot that the ults are available to buy from that menu, that IS a shame because you can't finish the constellations and immediately claim your gift then
tender oasis
Invisible bug in isle now
sullen relic
you can't see friends? i saw another player reliving a spirit just then
random gull
oh boy 😮 I am kinda curious if I can wapr to ios friends rn from android <_<
hollow cloak
Invisible moth is honking at you and following you with a white candle clutched in their hands
tender oasis
I can't see poor Julia and shes attached i can see chat
sullen relic
let me try gatecrashing you two and seeing what happens
random gull
yall either server split or invisible
tender oasis
Invisible
random gull
nah I'm alone I can walk , not attached to spear anymore. trying to warp back and see if I join
tender oasis
Spear and Julia is attached tho
random gull
so android can't go through with ios. at least I can't. when I warp back I'm in an empty server and beeping reveals none of your icons
random coral
Omg the “come” spirits story now! 🥺
hollow cloak
Is this all in Dawn?
random gull
<_< well... I found something else out but I better dm that
crystal u probably know so I can tell you about it too if you want
fresh quiver
Oh, sure!
hollow cloak
I'm usually not impatient for beta updates but I want to throw another Android device into this invisible bug 
sharp talon
Heyy whats new in this update?
hollow cloak
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
buoyant wasp
as far as we know
hollow cloak
Right, still waiting on the official patch notice from Ktjn
fresh quiver
I've updated, time to throw my android device into the chaos and see what bugs I can find
copper bison
tempted to make a comparison for the spirit stories (live vs beta/old vs new) but have to ask people for beta footage
tender oasis
Now I can see both Julia and Spear, i'm totally confused
random gull
oh yay my android got the update!
tender oasis
So far it seems if every one of you finishes the point spirit you can see the others
random gull
still wondering why I got split into an entirely different server from yall <_<
rain delta
Awww man my iPad isn’t here but I want to see what the new updates are (;-;)
hollow cloak
I'm at 90%, if you're online I'll try to join you as soon as this finishes, Kai (if the server isn't full)
tranquil mortar
update-?
oak berry
I really like these new spirit cutscenes
random gull
yeah android is getting the update slowly. ios def has it
rain delta
Oh wait guys on apple test flight released that new update where it would automatically download the updates.. does that work for anyone or do you still have to click download?
copper bison
yeah, they're really cool
tranquil mortar
i didn't get ping- 
hollow cloak
There's no announcement in #beta-announcements yet, people know because of testflight notifications
tranquil mortar
ohh- Thanks!
rain delta
Traveling spirit updates... what are those...💀💀
hollow cloak
Does anyone have a price chart for the current TS? I haven't bought a thing from it yet so I can see if that's what they changed
rain delta
The mask was 30 and the pants were 65 I think
tranquil mortar
60 ^^
hollow cloak
Iirc someone mentioned that the pants were 60 on live and 65 on beta
copper bison
yeah, I remember someone saying it but i can't remember who did
toxic spruce
Who else can’t get into isle with a friend?
random gull
someone on android pls go in isle and tell me if your app crashed trying to fly over the rock <_<
tiny umbra
Oh boy spirit story changes
hollow cloak
The big rock? At the beginning?
toxic spruce
Can’t walk through together through portal, join doesn’t work, going back from daylight doesn’t work
random gull
yeah. instead of going through where it splits hands. I can go through fine but I crash if I go over
timid basalt
rip my game crashed when finishing a cutscene
random gull
aggressively experimenting with someone and half the time we enter isle we split hands upon entry. I can see ios friend's beeps, they cannot see my beeps (android) both apps updated tho
timid basalt
ah also, i saw a stranger in isle but there was a 'name' showing up
letters frequently change whenever i see it
rain delta
The spirit story changes signals we are about to get deeper into the story next season. 🤩🤩
random gull
OH I crash when flying if the other person beeps
someone pls check this. leader android, friend ios. see if it's repeatable other ways. I'm gonna try switching with friend see if they crash
copper bison
think i'm gonna go troubleshoot now since the update seems to be coming out for android. will be back 
random gull
caught the crash on recorder
rain delta
Yasss got my iPad back now and I love the ne TestFlight update... automatically downloads the new beta push in the background so when I open my app it’s the new version 🔥
tawny badger
I went solo and all was smooth, android here. Spirit stories are even more beautiful.
tiny umbra
First an F for lore chat when they see this
Second I’m gonna go real quick and record the old spirit story for posterity
random coral
Me and my friend, who are both iOS, only see each other invisible 
we’re trying to go to isle together
tiny umbra
Also the fact that they used the ponytail for the point spirit story npc of the same spirit that’s like, a few leaps away
toxic spruce
One is the young pony tail the other is the older pony tail 😂
random gull
ok so far I've found out: everyone is invisible in isle. if android leads we split hands half the time we enter. if ios leads we ALWAYS split hands. android is crashing with beeping like a LOT but ios isn't at all. if nobody beeps, android can make it to watch the cutscenes. once you watch a cutscene together you can see each other again
also can see people who haven't yet relived the spirit but they can't see me. dark just joined me
tiny umbra
But then,, the timeline
The follow me spirit and the deny spirit noticed the skykid
Aren’t these,, memories ??? Of when they were alive ?? When did skykids come to existence if the spirits weren’t wiped out when they first appeared I thought it was at least a hundred years gap
timid basalt
is it friends that are only invisible? or strangers too?
random gull
lore channel gonna go absolutely bonkers
stone trail
Traveling Spirit updates..... What has changed specifically? 🤔
tiny umbra
I can and will turn this into beta lore chat help me I need to redo my timeline-
But after bug talk cause that sounds oof
random gull
strangers too. a stranger crashed me with beeping once
rain delta
Not gonna lie those new cutscenes sent chills down my spine especially the come this way one... was that the golden child that fell??
copper bison
lore intensifies (insert aaaahhEyes here)
scarlet wraith
Golden child...journey style
timid basalt
oh maybe thats why i crashed
but i just saw a chibi stranger before my game crashed 
random gull
I'm about to in maybe an hour when I get home from work!
slim kayak
wow seems like i missed an update
can't wait to see the changes what are the changes
copper bison
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
tiny umbra
THE SPIRIT STORIES CHANGED AND IM GOING INSANE
slim kayak
we were just talking about the ts changing the other night
random gull
I don't see a price difference on the TS yet but I haven't unlocked past the wing buff on beta so I can't be sure
slim kayak
i wouldn't be able to see any changes either if its just price, since i already have boogie. did the ui change at all?
tiny umbra
I think the pants went from 60 to 65
random gull
seems the same to me but I'll look again when I get home. about to drive for a bit ^^; pants were 65 before on beta!
timid basalt
it was 65 in beta when i bought the pants
vapid briar
You won't seen changes til next ts.
stone trail
Today's America is Saturday. But the staff is working… good luck All staff
vapid briar
I'm on vacation but I saw the testflight update and figured I'd pop in and clarify.
random gull
Have a nice vacation! Thanks for clarifying for us
vapid briar
I'll be back on Monday, enjoy the weekend!
plain depot
1 day left. Last scene of Prophecy
stone trail
I couldn't find any changes. about traveling spirit.
Would you tell me what has changed in the traveling spirit?
toxic spruce
You won't seen changes til next ts.
Ktjn#8721
@mmm.m#6502
slim kayak
they revamped the cutscenes for point and come here spirits. (isle)
there are some videos in #beta-screenshots-videos
oh wait traveling spirits?
plain depot
Yop
ember orbit
The new come here spirit’s memory is so precious
tiny umbra
Not just the cutscene it is the WHOLE THING
rain delta
I wonder if there will be a boat we can fly in next season :O
random gull
you get candles again for reliving it like it was the first relive <_<
also man I have like a dozen separate bug reports to give when I get home 
timid basalt
no wonder i got 2
i was so confused
hollow compass
Oh, I was just in beta a few minutes ago. Lol, should I go back in after this update?
kindred fossil
beeping crashes? is that why i crashed randomly at prairie social?
tender oasis
And bring some friends to isle Blep beep didn't crashed me so far
timid basalt
i'm sorry to whoever was with me earlier in isle when i was beeping
toxic spruce
Mmm I didn’t crash at all...
slim kayak
resize potions are fixed!
tawny badger
@slim kayak have i just met you at home space trying first giant and then tiny?
slim kayak
maybe
tiny umbra
Ok but isn’t it our job to bring the lost stars home aka the spirits back to their constellation how can we do that if they weren’t already dead and “lost” when skykids started appearing I never actually considered that the timeline would overlap like that
UNLESS we were dormant which would make sense with the very beginning cutscene of the game with the “wake up child” part meaning we were already there and we didn’t spawn
THEN whyyyyyyyyyyy was that skykid’s eyes blinking like they were waking upppppp when the spirit was still alive
UNLESS its that one case with ghosts where they don’t realize that they’re dead and interact with their world normally not seeing anything wrong, just going about their old days unless something interrupts them like the skykid
SO how long have there been skykids in interaction with spirits when both parties were alive and not dead unless the coming of skykids marked The death of the spirits walks off while still rambling
nocturne dew
What if it’s not a Sky kid - but a star child?
hollow compass
Oh, is the honk crash back?
I don’t understand how the Sky kid makes sense in Isle, when we always wake up in Home after Eden in that position. Is this somehow going back to the original beginning of the game, when we washed up on a beach in Isle?
slim kayak
anyone else seeing the name flickering bug? my friends' names are flickering random symbols
kindred fossil
i haven't but a few others do already
timid basalt
happened to me for strangers. havent seen anyone from my friend constellation yet oof
stark sundial
I think it would be weird to be reborn and spawn in isle, idk the implications of home in the lore but ig it would be a part of close to isle?
slim kayak
it happens with both friends and strangers on my end
tiny umbra
Star children and sky children are the same, just different words for it if, I might not be right but there’s not second party of children besides sky children in the current canon ? And yea I totally forgot the new opening to the game is at home except that the animation of the skykid getting up is almost the same as the one where you first start the game maybe to make it clear that that skykid was just starting to moths whose image of that would have been fresh in their minds unless they’re hinting that skykids fall in different places and not just home ? The falling star graphic in the ushering migrant story was the same as the falling elders in the first cutscene mural
kindred fossil
i only think of home as a game mechanic, it doesn't necessarily exist the way it is in-game
tender oasis
My spells has full timers now instead of half and tgc cape spell is finally working too have to test the teleport ones still, but OMG finally 
spark lance
Okay so I'm playing beta again to check the spirits and I'm actually crying a bit here
tiny umbra
I’m pretty sure home is on one of concept art maps, thought that doesn’t mean it’s canon
spark lance
This is so sweet and a lot of the emotes make more sense now 😩
stark sundial
I think that the relation between the past aviary with clouds unlocked after entering to prairie and then the new home becoming an isle have a lore meaning (not so big, but there's something that's too coincidental to be just a mechanic)
kindred fossil
the "you" and "i" spell hasn't worked for me, gives the "warp failed. older version blah blah" message (my friend is up to date)
tranquil mortar
I still don't know what that spell is
spark lance
Have they also changed some of the music?? Or is it just me lol
hollow compass
I’m too tired to log back in now. I’ll check it out tomorrow instead. Sounds like lots of fun stuff!
tiny umbra
Ok I got most of it out of my system I’ll go look for them bugs now
tender oasis
You and I gives the old version message for me too. I just had an older pretty consistent spell bug where i got half full timer with all cosmetic spells and tgc, and isle/prairie telepor and antigravity spells haven't worked at all. And they do now
kindred fossil
I still don't know what that spell is
it sounds like it would warp you to your favorites friends without the need of the constellation pad at home, literally from anywhere else, no matter where
fleet falcon
Is it just me or apparently we can’t joint friends in any realm but Isle of Dawn after the update?
kindred fossil
at least what i think it would do
you can join them, it's just that they are invisible because of a bug at isle
tender oasis
Isle is broken
fleet falcon
Me and my husband just updated SkyBeta and we can folllow each other’s home and enter realms portal, but can’t enter isle
tiny umbra
Sanctuary said “isle’s problem now”
Edit: OH IS THAT WHY THE ROCK MOVED FROM ISLE TO SANCTUARY
kindred fossil
relive the spirit memory at isle, that should fix the invisibility bug
tender oasis
Point spirit only.
The other wont fix it.
fleet falcon
you can join them, it's just that they are invisible because of a bug at isle
@kindred fossil so, can we relive looping dance traveling spirit by being invisible? Lol I mean, can we open the two player door at isle ?
strong canopy
hi cuties, whats new with the spirits, except the cutscenes?
tiny umbra
Pointing pilgrim is older than I thought
tender oasis
The regular spirit where the stairs with the wing begins in isle is the one fixing your invisibility problem. You can open the door but you will deattach from each other.
valid terrace
NEW ISLE LORE
stark sundial
it will be interesting to see if other realm spirit have the same treatment
random gull
I'm home and ready to crash a bunch again who wants to join me and mochi
tiny umbra
It’s gonna destroy everything I believed about isle but it’s gonna do it so beautifully
valid terrace
LORE LORE LORE LORE
SPIRITS HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE
copper bison
yeah, google still isn't letting me update.
i'm wondering if maybe this is my phone's fault? my phone is a huawei device, but it's certified for play protect since it was made to the public before may 16th. i've been able to play and update sky until about a month ago when it suddenly became incompatible. might go ask in the android questions chat in a moment
valid terrace
Who is that boat person in Pilgrim's cutscene though
timid basalt
okay i crashed
slim kayak
same
valid terrace
I WAS WRONG THEY CARE ABOUT THE SPIRITS
THEY ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE SPIRITS AND THEIR ROLE IN THE WORLD
oak berry
are we having a crashing fest?
slim kayak
aw i also crashed when i sat on my bonfire
vapid drum
Wow , even got wax from the spirits
oak berry
also did anyone else get a ton of wax from reliving pointing pilgrim and ushering migrant
slim kayak
correction, i crashed when a friend of mine sat down with me.
whoops crashed again
i got 1 candle from point and half a candle from ushering migrant.
oak berry
huh, i wasnt really paying attention so i probably just got it from ushering migrant
tawny badger
Me too
vapid drum
I’m getting wax from the other Ilse spirit too the Nono spirit
timid basalt
aeras, did me warping caused any crashes for you guys? 
tender oasis
I haven't crashed once we beeped our nonexistent lungs out but i was fine
slim kayak
it seems to be an android crash
tender oasis
It was android Redmi note 9 (android 10)
timid basalt
mine crashed after warping to kai
random gull
weird because my android has never crashed before on android specific crashes and I am crashing like mad today.
vapid drum
Ok , all the spirits give wax now 😍
slim kayak
omg i'm so sorry whoever i was holding onto
random gull
that was dark
slim kayak
sorry dark!
random gull
I have discord multi-windowed on my ipad right now and man trying to balance 3 screens at once is chaos
valid terrace
also what’s going to be different in the TS thing
random gull
we’ll find out in 2 weeks on the next TS according to Ktjn
valid terrace
Interesting.
the experiments continue it seems
oak berry
that sounds ominous
kindred fossil
it's okay aeras, please look at #beta-screenshots-videos
valid terrace
regarding spirit updates
This feels like Hollow Knight
these constructs created for a single purpose but it seems to go wrong
kindred fossil
somehow i held onto you despite being invisible
random gull
I am trying so hard to make it to prophecy cave to see if bug still there and game is just like nope and splits everyone from my hand hold XD
valid terrace
Is this that bug in Sanct all over again
random gull
yes but WORSE
valid terrace
groaning noises
Here we go again...
being a Beta lurker and wannabe tester is fun, you can suffer along with people despite not being directly involved
I really really hope to get in though
I want to help out with this game
also I find reporting satisfying
gee I still need to type up that falling-through-the-floor-in-Battleship-room one
oak berry
i was flying toward isle temple and my game decided to crash on me
valid terrace
Crashes seem to be rampant right now, report every last one of them
random gull
dragon if you’re android it’s from beeping
slim kayak
on my way to the prophecy cave if you wanna warp to me
nocturne dew
Oh that might have been my fault then. I was trying to help Dragon and I beeped
valid terrace
ifwhen I become a tester I want to use a notebook as to not forget bugs
random gull
yeah don’t beep around your android friends XD or like in general because randoms on the same server also crash android
nocturne dew
Good to know!
oak berry
oh! someone opened the door!
fresh quiver
It only seems to happen if someone beeps while someone else is flying
nocturne dew
Yes that’s me! Lol
valid terrace
You think I can get in in the GMT timezone
I don’t want to lose sleep over it but how do I make sure I get the notif
because I have push notifs turned off
nocturne dew
Maybe you can’t see me 🤔
oak berry
i cant sadly
nocturne dew
Well I will still help of course!
oak berry
i got the spirit, thanks pony!
nocturne dew
No problem!
valid terrace
All I want to know right now is who was that Light-Miner-hair spirit with the Isle gang
also possible explanation for the candles eeeeeeee
wait was the candlemaker Migrant
Is that Migrant
so she must’ve been one of the students
I don’t know how much I believe ‘all the students are the same people as the spirits with the matching hair’ but I believe it for Migrant
lore gang will go nuts including me
WHO WAS TALL BOAT PERSON I MUST KNOW
strong canopy
lol
they added a wing buff in prairie
you can buy the orange cape twice lol
hmm bought it. lets see whats up
i got 2 orange capes lol
and clicking on it makes me crash
random gull
no orange cape in shop for me
simple bobcat
Me neither
hollow cloak
Me neither!
stark sundial
another wl in prairie?
random gull
where is it?
strong canopy
check #beta-screenshots-videos
hmm changes in forest too 👁️
new purple cape buff (9AC oml)
ember orbit
👀 so many changes 👀 makin me dizzy and exited
slim kayak
purple cape is there twice
stark sundial
they want to add something and the capes are placeholders maybe
strong canopy
the second purple cape costs 90 HEARTS
tiny umbra
Momma light miner
Actually on the topic of revamping unclear spirit stories, wide legged stance could do with one
They’re just standing at every stage
slim kayak
looks like i'm going to eden soon for ac
null item above teal cape
spice hare
TWO PURPLE CAPES? naruto run to open beta
strong canopy
ooooooh
cyan cape has a void symbol
stark sundial
send pic
slim kayak
i think it's a thing with all the cape spirits
strong canopy
like this Ø
stark sundial
if they add 2 wf then it would be 150 for android
vapid drum
There are more new buffs
strong canopy
im never buying a Ø item in beta lol
slim kayak
every cape spirit has a wing buff now
strong canopy
ooh its actually all capes but prices seem to be multiplied by 3 (in AC and hearts)
tiny umbra
Game crashing when I try to look at the duplicate capes
spark lance
I wonder if they’re planning to add more cape colors? They look like placeholders?
strong canopy
i hope these are placeholders!!
oak berry
more cape colors? i wonder what we could have
stark sundial
different designs over the same colors? maybe idk
random coral
Can’t wait to see what those extra capes are going to be or if their just a bug 
slim kayak
they are definitely placeholders, since there are null items too
random coral
I hope they’ll say what it’ll be in #beta-announcements
oak berry
maybe simpler patterns like the pre-release capes? i would like to see something similar to that
spark lance
Pretty exciting to see what’s in store! This is a pretty specific “bug” which screams placeholder to me
tiny umbra
Is it only the forest and prairie capes that have duplicates ?
stark sundial
we would have to wait till monday at least to know 
all the capes Lyze I think
tiny umbra
I’m gonna go to Eden on Sunday and get the ac for those “placeholders”
oak berry
fancy black and white cape
slim kayak
yup, every cape has a new wing buff and item
spark lance
The AC needed for the wing buffs is also way pricey compared to the others so the cape must be different haha
stark sundial
omg that will make the constellations hair more harder to get :( bad for moths
oak berry
unless hair gets moved under the second buff, and the capes could always be in placeholder spots
stark sundial
I mean the elders hair
strong canopy
The AC needed for the wing buffs is also way pricey compared to the others so the cape must be different haha
@spark lance every price is multiplied by 3
the og orange cape is 1AC and 3 hearts, vs 3AC and 9hearts for the new one
the og purple cape is 3AC and 30 hearts, vs 9AC and 90hearts for the new one
hidden quarry
ooh my god the new isle spirit stories are so well done 
tranquil mortar
I still didn't update beta - busy day so I'm getting spoilers here and from my gc 
stark sundial
if the new items keep the same prices then it would be cool to unlock the elder hair in a smaller percentage (75% maybe) and then to add a new ultimate gift at 100% constellation just a thought
tranquil mortar
new items? I'm so lost sorry
tiny umbra
Oh my god the spirit NAMES changed as well
oak berry
spirit names changed?
stark sundial
I'm referring to the placeholders as new items Luwu
tranquil mortar
placeholders?-
tiny umbra
Pointing Candlemaker and Ushering Stargazer
aka GOODbye i'm gonna be busy with this specifically
I don't know if i love this or hate this but pointing pilgrim had a good ring to it
tranquil mortar
wait ok nvm I just realized there's two purple capes
stark sundial
maybe backread a little and check #beta-screenshots-videos if you want spoilers Luwu
oak berry
im interested lyze
random coral
Ktjn did say that they plan to add additional items to elder trees so that could possibly be true @stark sundial
torn gust
simple bobcat
Omg the music in isle in the dune area got longer I think - very prettily too
oak berry
has isle just gotten a lore overhaul
tranquil mortar
Hm, does anyone have screenshot of the extra capes? Like while wearing.
oak berry
the capes just crash your game
tranquil mortar
the teal one is expensivee
simple bobcat
I'm just sliding around in the sand dunes listening just went to check live and as I remembered the music stops pretty fast even if you're moving
stark sundial
ik ik tronix I just hope that new moths don't have to buy 100% a constellation for a hair that could result 90 hearts expensier than what many of us already got so elder hairs at a less percentage could be a nice change (this assuming placeholders price staying for new items)
edgy canopy
I just realized, if the prices for the place holder items are 3 times the original cape... then what does this mean for the black and white capes....
strong canopy
i got an idea. going in orbit checking if sth was added to the elders trees 😋
tiny umbra
I’m slightly worried about talking to moths and referring to the spirits are migrant and pilgrim instead of stargazer and candlemaker
Tbh they could have kept the old spirit named and it still would have fit aaaaaaaaaaaa
oak berry
oh no black and white cape
timid basalt
150... 
strong canopy
oh no black and white cape
@oak berry 150 and 150 lol with 16AC nodes (or 12 im not sure)
tiny umbra
F
surreal beacon
oh no
tender oasis
Yellow 2.0 is 30, purple 2.0 is 90 hearts
finite meteor
maybe simpler patterns like the pre-release capes? i would like to see something similar to that
@oak berry take my hearts rnim hoping it is too now
copper bison
what happened when i left for homework-
slim kayak
bugs
tranquil mortar
Yellow is 30? oop
copper bison
ah.
tranquil mortar
Resizes are fixed tho
slim kayak
on the way to orbit. crashed 4 times now
oak berry
if purple is just 90 what is black and white like
copper bison
seems there's a lot of crashing going on
tranquil mortar
Doing candle run, no crashes rn
simple bobcat
I just crashed in prairie while flying to the first bell tower in village
slim kayak
it's definitely an android thing
valid terrace
I think those capes were put there as filler
they might be experimenting with new basegame items
simple bobcat
And my phone really doesn't crash often
tranquil mortar
Oh well, buying resize made me crash
strong canopy
Yellow 2.0 is 30, purple 2.0 is 90 hearts
@tender oasis isnt yellow 9?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
tranquil mortar
Yea yellow is 9
strong canopy
im happy tho. nothing cool in beta for so long. its time to eat rn 🍽️ 😋
tender oasis
Off sorry yes its 9 i was watching another tree before
strong canopy
flying to orbit atm. if they added new elders gifts im gonna jump
hollow cloak
Pink cape is null sign, with 120 heart cost
slim kayak
navy cape is also null, 75 hearts
hollow cloak
Pink and red second wing buffs are 9 AC. I don't have enough candles to get TS AND check red cape so I'm afraid I'm going to prioritize boogie
strong canopy
white cyan and pink are null
and cost 150, 60 and 120
pine remnant
i have a theory as to what this is owo
hollow cloak
I don't have enough AC to buy the second wing buff so it doesn't matter anyways 
pine remnant
i think the devs might be trying to implement the old cape designs, ive seen a lot of people asking for them back and this might be how they’re doing it. « upgraded » versions of the original capes
édit: also a way for vets to spend the hearts and AC they mostly have no need for
old pike
I can't enter dawn with a friend. Anyone has the same problem or can help?
slim kayak
isle has an invisible bug right now
hollow cloak
...I didn't get an extra wing after orbit
old pike
Oooh
slim kayak
i missed the orbit star
old pike
How can we open the door to TS?
pine remnant
you can just chibi fall through the roof
old pike
Oh
timid basalt
whoever is being pulled is still being pulled
valid terrace
but how will it make sense for the spirits
old pike
Okay. Thanks
hollow cloak
Valley, which I had at 100% is now at 93% thanks to the mystery buffs and capes.
The ult gift icon is now telling me to complete the constellation in order to claim the ultimate gifts ... But I have them...
kindred fossil
don't try on the mysterious second capes, i can no longer log into beta because it keeps crashing
random gull
ok so did eden: if you spam beep crash, ios devices will remerge and android will all end up in separate servers. DO NOT EQUIP THE SECOND CAPE
copper bison
oh dear
lots of crashes
valid terrace
second cape creepypasta when
slim kayak
best to not buy the null items either. most likely those items will be lost if you do
fervent patrol
WOAH
NEW SPIRIT MEMORIESS-
random gull
I think the second cape is place holders and null items will definitely eat your currency and return nothing we’ve learned that several seasons in a row now
worthy gate
Do we have any idea what the second black/white cloak costs are? I'm assuming those will be the most expensive.
kindred fossil
those are definitely place holders
strong canopy
ok so cyan, green, pink, black and white cape have a ∅ icon
valid terrace
something like 150-200
oak berry
ive learned from sanctuary to stay away from null icons
worthy gate
If it's only spirits with cloaks then it makes sense that the new items are varients on those cloaks. Maybe a version with a black lining instead of white (for example).
strong canopy
but all other capes have a cape icon. maybe all of these are not going to be all capes
because there are not as much new icons in the cape closets
oak berry
check the other closets maybe? i wonder what the would be then
strong canopy
no new elder gifts in isle and prairie
idk for other ones as forest and GW are not 100% anymore to me lol
random gull
they did mention expanding the ultimate gifts in the base game xonstellations before
strong canopy
they did mention expanding the ultimate gifts in the base game xonstellations before
@random gull but no news since
slim kayak
we'll have to wait and see what they are if they are staying
worthy gate
We know cape closet is broken (so many crashes) so not concerned about how manyits showing. Though might be worth checking for new icons in the other closets. To help rule out the idea it could be other items.
strong canopy
lol these buffs definitely count as i have 56+1 after rebirth and i always have been below 55 before
slim kayak
yeah, i had 55 before. now i have 60 (4 plus ts)
hollow cloak
Aeras, you're running in place at home and someone is happily redeeming a large number of illegitimate candles behind you
random gull
yeah I got 1 more from the buff I bought in eden too. so new buffs to base game and mystery items
kindred fossil
i'll have to wait until this crash issue is resolved
strong canopy
im happy
slim kayak
i was afk
strong canopy
so new buffs to base game and mystery items
@random gull and wax from spirits once again!
btw do you see weird names for your friends too? i even saw weird names for... ppl that i never friended
copper bison
yeah, that's a bug
pine remnant
did the spirit names change in english ?
people have been saying they did. my sky is in french and they’re the same as before for me
strong canopy
no new icons in the closet but the tree "crashers" capes. i wonder if its only bc the other capes show a ∅ icon
tiny umbra
They did change! Pointing candlemaker and Ushering Stargazer now
fervent patrol
Oooh
Is the old murals still around tho?
pine remnant
welp, gotta wait for the translation
fervent patrol
You know, the old murals that appear in the Pointing spirit's previous memories?
tiny umbra
I believe sooooo, I took recordings of the live version but not of beta hold on
pine remnant
the old murals seem to have been changed
vapid drum
Reborn with 65 , no more trials for 11th wedge 😍😂
oak berry
i was flying in prairie with a moth and my game crashed again, i think they honked
minor falcon
new buffs to base game
fervent patrol
I needed those old murals for a theory I had
;-;
Welp, it seems lore changed..?
Or is it still canon?
oak berry
or, were being given more lore
tiny umbra
New murals now for point spirit, I’ll post the live versions
minor falcon
aigght 150wl coming right up
pine remnant
seems so, i’m excited for if this goes live
strong canopy
seems like. i really like it
fervent patrol
I had a theory that the old murals in Isle were actually telling events that led up to the events shown in the Prophecy murals
oak berry
it seems the timeline sorta overlaps looking at ushering's spirit memories
strong canopy
well now they explain the sky game better
pine remnant
it seems ushering happens right before the water proph mural
ember orbit
Only the Spirit murals changed so it might still be viable
fervent patrol
Yep, I think it takes place right before Prophecy happens. It makes sense they would change the memories to give the Prophecy murals more clarity and give more lore.
But I wonder if the old murals from the spirits' memories are still viable. Perhaps they still are?
oak berry
lore chat is gonna be wild
pine remnant
ushering: isle elder ! this child just fell from the sky !
isle elder: send ‘em to the cave
ushering: but they just got here—
isle elder: did i stutter
tiny umbra
The timeline overlapping is what I’m screaming about
spark lance
I'm dying to see the patch notes.
tiny umbra
Isle elder: send the newborn to the dungeon
kindred fossil
pointing candlemaker
"pointing is a profession passed through generations, candle making is just a hobby of mine"
fervent patrol
I'm still curious if the old murals are still viable. Like the old murals in Pointing Spirit's memories that showcase four ancestors giving four lights to the Isle Elder (which I believe to be the Prophets handing the colored lights to the Isle Elder to the trials)
tiny umbra
Also did discord change stuff for y’all, i keep clicking on quote or delete message instead of edit
random gull
I do have a new “mark unread” button on my ipad <_<
pine remnant
anubis man: i dunno if i’m ok sending a kid into these deadly trials
isle elder: megabird wills it
anubis man: oh ok then 👍
copper bison
mark unread has always been here for me
late mountain
!whatisnewinbeta help? 😅
tiny umbra
Do feel like the title of stargazer is fitted more to the old pilgrim memory
copper bison
!whatsnewinbeta
gilded parrotBOT
Improvements.
ember orbit
Prophets: Come child we shall teach you aerobics
random gull
PFFT skybot done with our shenanigans. that period is just so menacing
fervent patrol
I thought maybe the Prophets kinda trained the skid before sending them into the dungeon Cave of Prophecies. We see exactly four ancestors in the first mural of the Cave of Prophecies
copper bison
skybot sounds so dead when they just say "Improvements." (insert aaaahhEyes here)
pine remnant
child of light: h—
isle elder and prophets: [bonks them] you can fit so much TRAUMA in this bad boy
slim kayak
skybot knew that there are no bug fixes, just more bugs
oak berry
oh my skykid has been through thick and thin at this point, especially with fire trial
tiny umbra
Except the migrant(I stubborn) is ushering the child to the temple, or the steps to the temple, and the prophecy cave is below the temple
Skykid, flying to the temple for the first time: whoah
The prophecy spirits, banging pots and pans: NO NO NO DOWN HERE DOWN HERE TOO HIGH-
finite meteor
my skykid has broken many. many. bones
ive bonked into stuff hundreds of times and also maybe 40 or 50 times when putting my flame out in home-
hollow cloak
Someone just crashed me in Vault
Anyone seeing that even strangers will have glitched names above their heads?
finite meteor
didn’t see that yet, lemme get back on
fervent patrol
That's why I believed the old murals were leading up to the events of the Cave of Prophecies. Cause there's always four ancestors shown in the murals and it was pretty consistent. Then we see another four in the Cave of Prophecies. (Ik, the first one in the Isle cave only has 3, but all the rest after that had 4)
gilded parrotBOT
if only @fervent patrol had listened...
oak berry
or maybe, the skykid goes to the prophecy cave AFTER they get their cape
like how we have to complete valley to go back into realms
hollow cloak
Everyone's discussing lore while I'm just popping in here going
helo, i have bugs
oak berry
several people are typing...
fervent patrol
@oak berry Maybe not. We see the kid go on a boat to get to the Cave of Prophecies. If they had a cape, they wouldnt need a flying boat
ember orbit
Wait so the first one Isle only has three, that explains why Fire Boi was hella late for us
tiny umbra
or maybe, the skykid goes to the prophecy cave AFTER they get their cape
like how we have to complete valley to go back into realms
@oak berry
The prophecy spirits sitting in their cave waiting for the skykid to come back: do you think they forgot about the prophecy
random gull
hey your game crashes if you try one of the second capes on in the closet even if you don’t own it FAIR WARNING
slim kayak
prophecy spirits to pointing candlemaker: no, you're pointing in the wrong direction!
tiny umbra
I keep clicking on delete message
copper bison
tbh lore makes my head spin, i can't come up with theories. i went into lore chat for the first time yesterday and my brain was immediately fried by just looking at the pins
stark sundial
helo, i have bugs :Oreopaws:
eat them
-Bear Grylls
fervent patrol
@ember orbit My headcanon is that Fire boi didn't become a Prophet until after the other three recieved the Prophecy, which was the first mural that we see in Isle first. Fire boi became a Prophet just before the lights fell from the Sky
pine remnant
fire prophet: im gonna find that kid myself
water prophet: be patient UwU
fire prophet: 
oak berry
the prophecy spirits wait an awfully long time for the skykids to come back
kindred fossil
don't equip the second capes either, you'll be locked out of beta
random gull
at least closet preview doesn’t lock you out permanently
valid terrace
This is an interesting update to say the least
fervent patrol
I think the events in the old murals may still be canon. Even without those murals, the first murals in the Cave are still there, right?
copper bison
yeah, since it crashes when you preview it, if you have it on permanently you'll crash repeatedly
hollow cloak
So if your friends mysteriously disappear from beta, they may or may not be trapped wearing a cursed cape
tiny umbra
WAIT isn’t the pointer(compromise) one of the prophecy student spirits?? My dude deflected
Candlemaker: you’re not gonna wanna go to the cave down there
Skykid: why
Candlemaker, flashing back: trust me
Stargazer: ok so you gotta go to the cave
Skykid:
kindred fossil
not a bug, rather missing files
similar to the beginning of prophecy testing
finite meteor
if these “duplicate capes” get changed into new ones and get put into live uh
we may have a problem for those with all constellations complete and i have 5/6 complete 
fervent patrol
Also, the Candlemaker confirms a headcanon I had.
Candles are pretty much holy in Sky. Kinda like the Flame in the old concepts, but now, its candles.
pine remnant
i don’t think stargazer is ushering the kid to the cave
looks like she’s telling the guy with her to « come look at this »
tiny umbra
fire prophet: im gonna find that kid myself
water prophet: be patient UwU
fire prophet:
NOW we know where fireboi went when they were missing
valid terrace
I’m going to make a pilgrim spirit I feel
spirit version of my pilgrim in another fandom
potent heron
Update?
hollow cloak
if these “duplicate capes” get changed into new ones and get put into live uh
we may have a problem for those with all constellations complete and i have 5/6 complete :wcfall:
I completed Valley and still have the ult gifts, though. So I feel like the only reason why people would be angry would be if they're
- Really close to completing the constellations/haven't claimed ult and now they have to do more, or
- They're a completionist and just hate seeing it go down from 100%
humble bolt
Update what's new??
finite meteor
i am 2
copper bison
- Improvements for Facebook Friend Finder
- Introducing Serendipity matchmaking for Facebook and STAR
- Revamped the Spirit Memories of the “Point” and “Come” spirits for better readability
- You and I STAR pin functionality is now enabled
- Traveling Spirit updates
fervent patrol
Well, now that I look at it, my theory about some of the murals taking place before Prophecy still kinda stands. Just doesn't apply to the other murals now that its changed. Only to the ones in the Isle cave that we entered.
pine remnant
imma copy-paste some theories from a different server here rq
humble bolt
What's new on ts?
slim kayak
Whats new? crashes
potent heron
Well I'm off to crash my app!
copper bison
we don't know, the changes start next ts
hollow cloak
@humble bolt #beta-discussion message
pine remnant
alright theory time:
pointing pilgrim
the mother and daughter (?) look new and confused. we see the pilgrim showing them murals of the ancestors worshipping(?) candles, then teaches them how to make candles. then he shows a mural of several ancestors bringing things to daleth and the isle temple. lastly the mother and daughter are given a boat full of pots and candles to go to the temple.
perhaps « pilgrim » literally means pilgrimage, he sends people to give offerings to the elders.
ushering migrant
this one is pretty self-explanatory. she and rejecting voyager see the CoL/Prince fall, and im imagining soon after this is when the first prophecy mural takes place.
fervent patrol
It seems the TS update caused the other spirit trees to go buggy or something.
humble bolt
I see
hollow cloak
Not buggy, new nodes don't just magically appear in constellations unintentionally. Those have to be purposely coded
kindred fossil
i doubt this has anything to do with TS
fervent patrol
More like right before the first mural of Prophecy takes place. We haven't seen a little sky kid fall from the sky in the Prophecy mural. They're already there.
Welp, my headcanon about the Prince falling from the sky and landing in Isle is confirmed-
Two headcanons confirmed from Spirit memories-
O.O
slim kayak
The capes are most likely placeholders for things that don't have assets in the game yet, which is why everyone crashes when they try them on. Probably the same with null items, but you'll probably not even get anything for it. Ah, bugs.
pine remnant
More like right before the first mural of Prophecy takes place. We haven't seen a little sky kid fall from the sky in the Prophecy mural. They're already there.
if you look close, you can see from the top there is a line of light coming down to where the skid is (approximately). so, yeah, it does entail the CoL falling and being sent to the cave
humble bolt
I don't know what are you guys talking about, I'm lost
kindred fossil
i don't know either, we're uncovering this update as we go
hollow cloak
beta discussion turned into lore discussion because the first two spirits in Isle got changed and have big lore
copper bison
beta-gen-discussion has become beta-lore-discussion
soap fast
finite meteor
beta-lore-discussion channel when
slim kayak
The first 2 spirits in isle have new cutscenes and names. Also, bugs.
Reminder for everyone to not try on the new capes !
hollow cloak
I'm usually on my phone so I don't type as fast but now I'm on my computer. Time to nyoom
fervent patrol
I thought the stream of lights may have been the elemental lights
But I guess it could've been the CoL
You know, showing the lights falling from the sky and being sent to the Cave
copper bison
yeah, would type faster on computer lol
pine remnant
the stream look exactly like the 8-pointed falling star we see
hollow cloak
I hope they pin a message about the capes soon, I'd hate for more people to get locked out of testing Google already does that for us
fervent patrol
Yeah, but I thought there was four shown on the top. Though, I could be wrong.
Plus, there's also the falling stars in the Isle murals too. (Most likely the elemental lights, as there's four shown falling)
copper bison
cri (insert sadblob here)
late mountain
Whoa, is it if you put on the wrong cape you eternally crash this version?
slim kayak
we probably won't get an update in #beta-known-issues until monday, since tgc doesn't work on weekends
kindred fossil
yes harbin, i'm locked out because i have one of those capes equipped
valid terrace
Who’s the person on the boat though
finite meteor
wait why did i go into prophecy cave this is beta
late mountain
Y’all got me scared now. So what exactly do I need to avoid tonight? I haven’t had a chance to look into this update yet.
copper bison
since it's a null item it crashes the game when you preview it. if you actually put it on, the game remembers that you put it on and then crashes. so when you join back in, since you're still wearing the cape, you crash again. cycle repeats.
strong canopy
Y’all got me scared now. So what exactly do I need to avoid tonight? I haven’t had a chance to look into this update yet.
@late mountain if you try on the new capes your games freezes
hollow cloak
Don't buy the new capes from the spirits, basically.
Careful touching the new cape slots in the closet, because those will crash your game (but the permanent crash is if you can actually put on the cape)
finite meteor
Y’all got me scared now. So what exactly do I need to avoid tonight? I haven’t had a chance to look into this update yet.
@late mountain do not buy the duplicate capes and put them on. it will crash you eternally. putting a preview of them on will only crash the game until you reopen it
kindred fossil
actually now i know why i crashed earlier at prairie social, it must've been that
slim kayak
things to avoid in beta:
new capes on the cape spirits will crash your game if you have them on
chirping will crash android players
isle has the invisible friend bug
late mountain
So just new capes? Okay got it, hide from the capes.
Thank you everyone ^^
tiny umbra
But you can buy them right you just can’t put them on
So yes you can buy them, you just need a bunch of self control not to wear them
fervent patrol
I wonder what stuff they'll add now... Which spirits has the new trees?
strong canopy
dont want cape problems? buy the invisible cape. simple. why isnt everyone doing it
copper bison
basically if you don't buy the cape you'll be fine. putting on the preview since you don't have it, the game won't keep it on you when you come back.
yeah, you can buy them. just be careful not to put it on.
slim kayak
every spirit that has a cape has a new wing buff and null/cape item
kindred fossil
yes i bought them, but i would be avoiding it if i were you
valid terrace
second cape creepypasta when
make the spirits even more overlooked than they are already because people will be scared of them :D
hollow cloak
Chirping while flying appears to be the main problem, that was what crashed me
The new capes are REALLY expensive, like 3x the cost, and since they appear to be placeholders anyways it's just generally not recommended to buy them. We should probably wait and see that TGC is doing with them first
humble bolt
The point and come here spirits are missing ;-;
slim kayak
buying the wing buffs seems to be ok though. just don't touch the capes.
you have to relive them again @humble bolt
analog citrus
The 150 th star visual didn’t get slipped into this update did it?
humble bolt
I mean, they don't appear in isle
copper bison
they went on vacation
hollow cloak
buying the wing buffs seems to be ok though. just don't touch the capes.
...Now I'm thinking that maybe I should redo Eden to see if I crash with the buffs
finite meteor
@ somebody with 11 wedges 🗣️
humble bolt
I was searching for them right now and they were missing
slim kayak
i should have enough to get 150 now, so i'll see if there is a new 11th wedge
fervent patrol
Wait a sec
About that skid that falls from the sky....
They dont have any cosmetics. Like, none at all. Looks like us when we're extinguished.
But when we woke up, we had cosmetics already. We had hair and mask already on by default...
tiny umbra
Maybe someone relived it before you could get to it ?
theyre at the temple getting their name legally changed
finite meteor
can i not say someone or somebody without accidentally pinging someone whoops
copper bison
put a space between the name and the @ sign. or put a slash
ex. @ someone
@/skaikidneon#7728
kindred fossil
butter, back in old beta you started as a shadow, you had no cosmetics on, washed up on the shore by isle
tiny umbra
Or a @/slash
valid terrace
I’m losing my mind over the fact the spirits actually got love
fervent patrol
Yeah, but I mean current Sky. Old beta ain't canon anymore
finite meteor
bald skykid go brrrr
kindred fossil
i'm aware
pine remnant
i hope we get more spirit love in the future, they have so much potential
finite meteor
im begging that the two people i pinged on accident arent active
kindred fossil
seems like this is the beginning of it?
valid terrace
yes p l e a s e
pine remnant
sneaky survivor deserves better
valid terrace
My childs are getting love
fervent patrol
Imagine the skid immediately thinking of Ushering spirit as their mom, cause you know... They're the first ancestor the skid saw after being born or something
LMAO
hollow cloak
Voluntary says spirit rights
humble bolt
Also trying on the last three capes before seasonal ones crashes the game
kindred fossil
yep, don't buy 'em
potent heron
Whats the price on the crash cape?
valid terrace
I’m tempted to make that a meme but might that possibly be offensive to actual rights or am I just worrying too much
fervent patrol
One of them is... 60 hearts? Not sure...
kindred fossil
yellow's is 9 hearts
humble bolt
Triple the price I think?
potent heron
Ohhh theres multiple? Interesting
hollow cloak
All capes spirits have a second cape available to buy, the cost is roughly 3x the regular
Second pink cape is 120 hearts
valid terrace
I love every single one of these 80+ minor NPCs
kindred fossil
...120
slim kayak
i imagine white and black will be 150
humble bolt
Aaah I was about to say that ;-;
valid terrace
idea that if these get added there might be new basegame ults and certain percentages are required for those
tiny umbra
pulls out list of the other spirits who need overhauls
Wide legged stance
Waving bellmaker
Pouty Porter(did NOT know they were holding something until like, recently)
Cheerful spectator(has only two frames)
the chairman I mean Meditating Monastic
Polite Scholar
fervent patrol
So... many... hearts...
Meanwhile, I struggle and only get 1 each week...
hollow cloak
I would have checked secondary white cape but the wing buff before it costs 12 AC and I have 8
finite meteor
lets hope these prices dont stay BWHAJAJSJJA im not spending 5 months to save up for ONE CAPE that ends up as 150 hearts
kindred fossil
uncertain if it's a cape, looks like a placeholder
tiny umbra
Specifically Wide Legged Stance I know they’re the krill beginner spirit but please-
slim kayak
i get hearts way faster in beta than in live... but i just bought black cape so i won't be getting those anytime soon
pine remnant
we relive wide-legged so much, they deserve a better memory !!
valid terrace
screams placeholder to me
copper bison
yeah same, more people lit my star in beta than live lol
oak berry
it took me a month to get black cape, whatever the new one is i want it
i wonder what wide legged stance's improved memory would be
kindred fossil
i get a decent amount of hearts in live, i should be good
tiny umbra
Courageous soldier be liked:
🧍
🧍 
🧍
🧍
hollow cloak
Randomly crashed in Vault trying to chibi glitch. Didn't see anyone around...
minor falcon
150 hearts for a single item? if these are factored into constellation completion vault will be over 300 hearts
oak berry
ive barely unlocked all of the candle nodes for vault dont do this to meee
hollow cloak
They're part of completion for now, I finished Valley and now I'm at 93%
pine remnant
i mostly focus on completion in live, hopefully these prices are just placeholders
tiny umbra
You need to run yourself into the grindstone to get 
valid terrace
me holding a spirit figurine
I just think they’re neat
minor falcon
big yikes! if these go live our elder hairs will be the legendary bargain kind
hollow cloak
If they gave us vault elder's mask instead of the hair for an ult gift, I might go for it anyways
copper bison
those people who want invisicape'll be like-
why-
pine remnant
elder spirit trees
valid terrace
Telekinesis’ mask is it though
tiny umbra
I actually think sneak stance’s spirit story is pretty clear, wouldn’t make sense to add another spirit to the memory like with the candlemaker since they’re a survivor,
but maybe if they redo the other wasteland spirits we can see more interaction
hollow cloak
Telekinesis’ mask is it though
I guess that's true, I was more talking about their face though
Like the little scar-looking thing and whatnot
fervent patrol
Is Ushering and Pointing spirit the only ones who have their memories changed?
valid terrace
They should leave Fainting’s untouched and prob will
fervent patrol
If Pointing and Ushering spirit memories changed, then its possible others will be changed too after more lore is revealed in later Seasons-
valid terrace
Seeing her just literally drop dead though
strong canopy
i'd advise not to buy anything yet lol bc im afraid this will all be wiped and sent to the trash went they implement sth serious lol
as they did with sanctuary ults
tiny umbra
Actually the ushering memory reminded me of that one vine
Stargazer: you ever wanna talk about your feelings Voyager
Voyager: no
: I do
Stargazer: I know random newborn child
: im really lost
Stargazer: I know random newborn child
slim kayak
i got 4 wing buffs, but not any of the capes, and definitely none of the null items.
pine remnant
i feel like somethin big is coming
like
the beginnings of an overhaul of sorts
random gull
i bought one wing buff XD
strong canopy
you bought the null items? what a brave tester
valid terrace
i feel like somethin big is coming
like
the beginnings of an overhaul of sorts
@pine remnant
me too
hollow cloak
No AC gang rise up 
pine remnant
an overhaul like Light Awaits becoming Children of the Light
but maybe not AS major
but
about that size
slim kayak
no, i didn't buy the null items. i was there when sanctuary testing happened
valid terrace
I can feel the lore floodgates slowly opening
analog citrus
Rip manta cape
tiny umbra
Get your screenshots secure before it all overturns
Actually maybe it’s not an overhaul but really just the story slowly moving forward, pilgrim unlocked new memories and remembered they were a candlemaker and maybe migrant had no idea who they were ushering until they remembered the child, and the spirit stories changed then
tender oasis
I bought yellow cape no2 and crashed my ipad but i can log back on just fine with no crashes.
random gull
did you put it on pakka?
fervent patrol
I actually have screenshots of Pointing spirits' memories in Live, I did it for a theory doc I'm making. Just took those screenshots yesterday~
pine remnant
yeah, and there’s screenshots in the #lore-discussion-spoilers pins !
tender oasis
Yes that caused the crash Kai.
kindred fossil
alright, but is it still equipped?
static hamlet
Just to clarify, do not purchase any capes in beta on this build?
pine remnant
don’t wear them either
fervent patrol
An overhaul coming is making me feel nervous about what's to come-
tiny umbra
You can purchase just don’t put them on !!
tender oasis
No it just changed back to what i wore before
copper bison
you bought it or previewed it?
oak berry
more of the spirits remembering their past is a nice headcanon for why the memories changed
potent heron
I'm looking forward to the update notes whenever they come out
hollow cloak
My game just crashed trying to view the point spirit's memory
random gull
an overhaul would likely mean a beta progress wipe too but i think this is just adding more story and cosmetics to the base game and not an overhaul of the whole game
static hamlet
So do not wear any cape purchased on this build?
valid terrace
I’m a bit nervous about the TS system changing in Beta
what are they doing
we won’t know until next time
oak berry
i dont mind being a moth again, hopefully i keep friends though
kindred fossil
bought it, wore it then crashed, but they should still be crashing since they're wearing an item that doesn't exist, except beta had mercy and equipped the cape before
fervent patrol
I wonder which spirit memories will change later in the game-
Wait, WILL WE SEE THE KING IN A SPIRIT MEMORY ONE DAY???? >:O
tender oasis
Bought it wore it crashed, logged back on and had my old cape on me with no crash.
pine remnant
technically we’ve probably already seen the king in Ushering’s memory
oak berry
dark wasnt spared from the wrath of beta
valid terrace
I was going to say “what if that’s Alef”
kindred fossil
the crash is caused from equipping an item that doesn't exist
copper bison
then you probably crashed before the game remembered you put it on?
random gull
beta is lore 2.0 again
fervent patrol
Yeah, I mean, the King being King or something-
The skid in the mech suit
hollow cloak
I wouldn't count on TGC changing all of the spirit memories. That's a bad move for every single new player - if the memories just flat-out change over time, new people will have no clue what they missed and lose the story
tender oasis
The dark screen has come for u 
Beta is 2 different discussion rn. Lore and bugs
oak berry
dark is in beta-crash-purgatory
random gull
i still need to do bug reports and instead I'm on live collecting candles 
copper bison
welcome to limbo my friend
potent heron
So if crashes mean possible changes... maybe I should run up eden real quick
valid terrace
This is the beginning of Proph all over again
season_intro_1_08
kindred fossil
oh the sacrifices i make in the name of friendship
pine remnant
thé capes are lava
random gull
nothing new in eden you can't already see from home
copper bison
floor is lava, except cape is lava
potent heron
Ah
slim kayak
So, I got a candle from reliving the butterfly spirit
And it only lets me do it once
valid terrace
butterfly_spirit_item
tender oasis
Woah. I think tomorrow will be relieve all the spirit day
simple bobcat
Yeah they all give wax once again, like when you're reliving them at the first time as a moth : D
fervent patrol
True, the spirit memories changed in Isle to give more clarity and hints to what the murals in the CoP really mean.
So I think the only way Spirit memories would change is if more lore is added and the TGC crew really needed a way to give it more clarity.
slim kayak
Can we do that daily though?
I'll have to check tomorrow
valid terrace
what to do when you’re desperate on a candle run
hollow cloak
Running for candles, running for WL... ...Running for spirits
tiny umbra
i think these specific spirit stories changed cause of the prophecy stuff, and also maybe to show the importance of candles so youre not confused as to why youre getting candles,
Though it's a lot of lore for most little moths to immediately get 👁️
valid terrace
Spirit% speedrun
relive all the spirits in the shortest possible time
copper bison
yeah, the moth i met the other day yeeted their candles at other players
tiny umbra
Voluntary I did that once, took a few hours
Basically was a crash course in spirit story history
strong canopy
is the invisible cape still costing hearts in orbit?
fervent patrol
Also, candles being something important to Sky's culture is very similar to the Flame in concepts. The Flame was gonna play a major role in the concept lore of sky, and originally, you dont hold a candle. You just have a flame in your hands like in the Elder cutscenes
hollow cloak
i think these specific spirit stories changed cause of the prophecy stuff, and also maybe to show the importance of candles so youre not confused as to why youre getting candles,
Though it's a lot of lore for most little moths to immediately get 👁️
That's a really good point... The blank skykid lying on the ground is only a relevant scene once you've been reborn and see yourself lying in that exact same position after falling from the sky
edit: and you need to have lost your light at least once in order to understand that the featureless figure even IS a skykid
pine remnant
i wonder why they don’t make red candles, only large white ones like we see in the end room of the valley maze
valid terrace
it feels like those films you need to watch multiple times to understand
pine remnant
good for replay value !
oak berry
or like those books where it goes through the main arc and then the prequels after
tiny umbra
It's a little like saying "Look kid, this is how you were born"
Could also theorize with that that you appearing in home first is when you're still sleeping, all the thunder and lightning, and when you're in isle for the first time is when you're awake for the first time, so the spirits see you wake up but you don't see them or even are in the same area as them ?
pine remnant
another thought relating back to my old « overhaul » comment: maybe this is the beginning of the new chapter of sky ? the devs have mentioned « chapters » of the story of the kingdom
édit: true, lyze
valid terrace
I feel like the idea of my spirit OCs looking after my descendant OC makes even more sense now
hollow cloak
So it's like when you go home during Eden or Orbit... Your skykid appears there but your physical body is somewhere else?
tiny umbra
I think a new chapter in sky would be like the murals in prophecy or a different game entirely, why gate new players in the future from the first chapter ?
oak berry
does this mean home doesnt exist?
that would make sense though since we cant see eden mountain though
hollow cloak
Is that why you can just teleport home from anywhere...
oak berry
and you cant in stormlock, but can in orbit..
pine remnant
what if stormlock is home
slim kayak
home is your dream. when you teleport home, your skykid just falls asleep in the realm they were last in. that's why the return shrine is there
but that doesn't explain the teleporting to other realms part.
oak berry
do we just hop dreams when teleporting to a friend in home
fervent patrol
Wait, the skid is the same color as the skid we see when we die in Stormlock!!!! >:O
tiny umbra
You know if you fly up high enough in home (not rocket, fly) the sky turns to night, if you dive back down it turns back to what it's supposed to be
Home to me is like a safe space outside of all the krill or even spirits and stuff, but if home doesn't exist how much of what we are seeing actually exists vs what's a mechanic and all the portals to home in boneyard and battlefield and the social spaces
oak berry
and theres one to take you home in the third area of forest
fervent patrol
Back then, if you walk out far from Home, you'll end up in the dark room when you lose your light-
Not stormlock tho
stark cloud
Did anyone unlock node from new changes spirit tree?
stiff delta
Great I can’t see my friends in dawn lol
tiny umbra
Yeah the fact that the pity star room is in home
valid terrace
this is the most I’ve ever seen people talk about spirits
it’s a joy
stiff delta
Lol
fervent patrol
Well, devs just keep saying "Home is where the heart is" if you ask them about Homespace, lol
oak berry
maybe the pity star room is linked to home, but home is your dream
fervent patrol
Home is a mysterious place...
tiny umbra
home could be off center of orbit
Actually where's that old concept map-
oak berry
i remember seeing it somewhere
stark cloud
When you realise all new 9 wingbuff are from spirit that have cape..
valid terrace
why is the term ‘pity star’ so funny to me
hollow cloak
The other interesting thing is the glitch where you warp to a friend from the dark room and you appear dark and dead to them
Pity star reminds me of that meme with the gold star that says 'you tried'
fervent patrol
Also... If the skid in the memory is the same color as the kid we hug when we die in Eden...
Could it be the skid from Eden that we hug is the same one in the spirit memory? Or that the skid we hug in Eden is actually a memory of sort, not an actual skid?
pine remnant
home could be off center of orbit
Actually where's that old concept map-
@tiny umbra i have a few concept maps of sky, ill send them in #beta-screenshots-videos
oak berry
i think the color is just from it being a spirit memory
tiny umbra
oh boy if my knuckles weren't hurting like hell-
There's two world maps i have in my inventory and neither of them have home space on them
fervent patrol
i think the color is just from it being a spirit memory
@oak berry Yeah, but that could mean the one we hug in Eden is actually a memory if that's the case
valid terrace
I’m some bored English girl who likes funny ghosts
oak berry
but the one in eden used to glow, but after an update it changed
fervent patrol
Yeah, and that itself means something. It wouldn't be changed without a reason. Remember the spirit memories changed too, and the skid in the memory just so happens to match the one we meet in Eden.
hollow cloak
There are a whole lot of visual bugs in Sky though, like the rock in the Prophecy cave
oak berry
its hard to tell whats just a change, lore, or a bug
bugs are easy though
fervent patrol
Plus, the moths will see that skid in the spirit memory and they may end up assuming the same one appears when they first die in Eden, because they're kinda the exact same.
Also, I don't think its a bug. The stars in the column when you select the kid to hug is also gone.
oak berry
i just think it was just a change not sure why we would hug that spirit memory kid in eden
humble bolt
I just saw the changes of the spirits in dawn, and I gotta say, I'm really impressed, that reveals a lot
hollow cloak
Hanging out with a group in Prairie social space, keep crashing
I'm going to call it a day, I already have more bug reports to submit than I care to make
sullen relic
remember to file them bit by bit though, lest another build update comes out
rain delta
Omg all the new capes and wing buffs — maybe they’ll be patterns on the original capes?
kindred fossil
the invisibility bugs spawns your friend's core at a random spawn point (usually nearby the pointing spirit)
they're with you (as long as neither lets go) but their core is at a different castle
Omg all the new capes and wing buffs — maybe they’ll be patterns on the original capes?
too good to be true
oak berry
the null ones could be new items altogether
rain delta
I’m seriously looking forward to this evolution of the game... omg what if we get the hunter’s bow and arrow? And there’s an archery mini game??? 😍😍😍
I do remember ktjin saying they wanted to add more cosmetics down the line
kindred fossil
yeah, but i try to keep my expectations realistic
i don't understand what's so funny about what i just said
sullen relic
one thing's for sure though, we won't be bored with nothing to do after season ends
kindred fossil
yea
slim kayak
i'm keeping a tally of how many crashes i experience since the update. so far it's at 17
kindred fossil
iOS can't participate in crashing olympics
rain delta
@kindred fossil agreed my expectations are almost comical >< I’m low key expecting one of them to have a sword and spear cosmetic too :’D
Then I can cosplay the wasteland elder
humble bolt
Maybe a spear cosmetic like the ||office|| spirit
finite meteor
👁️ i would like to c that
late mountain
Oh my gosh I didn't think of that. Maybe a butterfly pot like one of the spirits wears too
valid terrace
YES
flat bone
Anyone can see how is 11 wings look like? Are the visuals available now?
fervent patrol
Also, I compared the skid in the spirit memory to the one when we die in Eden. They're actually different, but sort of similar? Mainly due to their light appearance. The one in Eden is more creamy colored and more detailed
sullen relic
the one in the eden dark room actually changes size to match whatever height we are, but i didn't notice the spirit cutscene one mimicking my chibi height (not sure if that's technically feasible for a spirit cutscene, and it's still pretty early in beta implementation)
dense whale
/oooh yall doing lore
sullen relic
it definitely feels related to what we see going on in the cave of prophecies though, like the the trials what was caused this same kid to become the child of light and leave behind all those shiny winged light phantoms/imprints
oak berry
but what is the child in the eden dark room.. our life force? or just light?
fervent patrol
The winged light are from the statues in Eden.
The description of Stormlock says "Return the light of the Fallen"
Its kinda possible the skid in the spirit memory is indeed the same one we meet in Eden
That's what new moths would think if they relive the new Ushering Spirit memories and later meet the skid in Eden
stark sundial
about the convo earlier I just want to remind everyone that weapons in sky are pretty unlikely since is a game rated for children with the most violent thing is how strong the krills hug you :v and some rocks falling pretty hard on you, imo I don't think they will ever add spears, bows and things like that to the game
fervent patrol
Tho a butterfly pot is more likely tbh
But uh... Idk how it would work. May turn out to be too OP
flat bone
Alrighty, thank you for responding my question, I’ll wait then. Have a wonderful day 🥂🍾
finite meteor
i read bows and thought “how is a hair accessory a weapon” wow
dense whale
/i thought it was bowing, like the emote? "we already have bows????"
stark sundial
lmao the word bow have so many different meanings
fervent patrol
@dense whale uhhh... are you sure you want to be here at the moment? There's spoilers atm
dense whale
/uh oh?I thought season over????? okay imma head out thanks butter
late mountain
I mean a staff is a weapon even if a simple one. If we ever do see more 'weapons' in sky though I imagine they would be very similar to the staff in the sense that they aren't weaponised and are instead used for something cool. Like I could see a bow being used to shoot a flare of light that looks pretty but like the fireworks staff it would never do damage or have any of that sort or feel. At most the only thing I could ever see working in its intended use like real world would be a shield, so defensive item.
sullen relic
what props have we seen on existing spirits that we haven't been able to obtain as cosmetics, besides the butterfly jar?
fervent patrol
Flying Lantern, but they'll add that eventually in a Days event one day
sullen relic
yeah, i can't really see them implementing the spear based on the design philosophies they've mentioned in past interviews, that one seems hard to implement in a way that'd be meaningful as a tool rather than a weapon (we kinda don't need any grappling hook/climbing devices with the power of flight)
late mountain
Flying Lantern, but they'll add that eventually in a Days event one day
@fervent patrol We have a lantern in sky. It was from the days of summer lights event and might return yearly (not confirmed, just guessing based on Halloween returning)
fervent patrol
No, I mean, Floating Lantern, or something like that where you send it to the sky and have messages? But tbh, I dont think it'll be a prop, more like an equivalent to boats
stark sundial
I think that the real life definition and design is what leads to not include a bow and to be a different kind of weapon than a staff, cause well a staff doesn't represent nothing dangerous outside of the game in comparison to a bow
oak berry
i mean you could hit someone with a staff
stark sundial
you can hit someone with anything :v
sullen relic
yeah, but the way it was demonstrated being used by the isle elder, it looks more like a walking stick and some kind of light guidance tool
fervent patrol
You can wack someone with a chair if you wanted too... But I strongly recommend not to do that at home~
irl
sullen relic
i could make an argument for a bow and arrow being a good excuse for a more medieval-style grappling hook device, but again, sky kids don't really need a wall climbing device when they can fly (i.e. i'm not sure what functional use it'd have as a cosmetic if implemented like that)
pine remnant
counter argument, spear: grapple hook real cool oh yea cool rebel loner vibes
oak berry
a grapple hook could help with getting places you cant reach via flight though
fervent patrol
To get past windwalls????
Gimme gimme gimme gimme
lilac grove
update
sullen relic
they could also come up with a creative magical use that none of us were expecting, like the staff being used to generate fireworks is something none of us would've guessed based on how actual real life staffs behave...but then in the case of the spear, i keep going back to "why does it need to be pointy then?"
stark sundial
does an slingshot is too violent? :0
fervent patrol
Hmmm... Maybe
oak berry
maybe it could be like an sos flare? or is firework staff already that
fervent patrol
Since its from a ship captain, the Firework staff does seem to function as a SOS Flare
sullen relic
if only it worked as a krill distraction device
stark sundial
we do have a catapult do... that's interesting, probably an unique case? for lore sake :v
finite meteor
does an slingshot is too violent? :0
@stark sundial slingshot to stun krill eyes temporarily (like maybe a few seconds
fervent patrol
Too violent
and its mean to the poor Krills-
finite meteor
i have lost hundreds of wl to the graveyard krills
sullen relic
the way the catapult (and even the giant office cannon) make sense to me in that the way they're implemented in-game is pretty much just used as transport and doesn't really lend itself to a sky kid expressing a violent/aggressive stance or posture -- that's the main problem when it comes to portable props exclusively seen as weapons
fervent patrol
I havent, probably cause I make sure to fly above the Krills-
late mountain
Really it would all be about implementation in my opinion for a 'weapon' that a skykid can hold. There are still weapons in sky of course, main one being the Westland elder armed to the teeth. We pass through graveyards, battlefields of death and destruction, see spirits straight up die, get crushed, trapped and left for dead, we self sacrifice, collapse and die in the most emotional death and return I've ever seen, most basic weapons compared to that are child play.
The big thing in my opinion would be keeping it pure though, the skykid themselves at least from my perspective are innocent, pure. If they were ever given something be it memory or cosmetic it can't come across as dangerous.
The staff does that well, it comes across as more decorative than dangerous, following that I would say perhaps a large square with the same design as the top of the staff for a shield. When hit it flares and your light burns out but you don't lose stars. The other 'weapon' I could see being more interesting than threatening could be a blowpipe. Simple stick with a little reticle square like the staff that could shoot an orb of light, I'm thinking like you see in the movies where you can shoot a flaming arrow down a dark cave and it lights up. Would only ever be possible to use for fun but could be pretty.
stark sundial
they try to hug you but is not their fault to have a windwall in the head
finite meteor
ive gotten spotted even when flying above krills
they literally have a 360 vision 
sullen relic
yeah, i think krills can actually "feel" you if you fly too close above them, like they feel the air pressure coming off the flap of your cape -- fly high enough and they won't notice you, but too low and they'll look right at you if you're going directly above them; going below them seems safe no matter what as long as you avoid the spotlight vision (ignoring the light killing aura of the eden krills anyway)
late mountain
I- What does a point react mean? 
fervent patrol
I fly above, but higher
bitter imp
You can fly along top of a krill and touch them... or pass through them without triggering them
finite meteor
im sorry what
just realized you meant to pass around them not GO THROUGHTHE MODEL
sullen relic
i've always interpreted a point react to mean "This" or "Yup, I agree with this" in the context of a discord react
fervent patrol
Yeah, thats what I use it for. I just use it for "This"
oak berry
ok but a bow and arrow, but instead of actually having an arrow its like a bar of light you can shoot?
finite meteor
that’d be useful in eden 🏃♀️
late mountain
Oh okay thank you ^^ I'm used to these points for that 👆 ☝️
I see the skypoint used more often to point to tell you you're in the wrong channel or to point at another emote
fervent patrol
But... too OP..?
oak berry
wait THAT COULD WORK LIKE A FLARE
all of the minigames you could make with that
fervent patrol
We already have Fireworks tho, and they were meant to function as SOS flare for the Ship Captain
sullen relic
isn't that basically what the fireworks are? unless you're thinking of it having a different trajectory or behaviour
stark sundial
I still thinking about the catapult :v is just there for us to do an small jump, maybe to give us an idea how normal things of our world can be fixed/used with light... this is not beta xd
late mountain
I mean the fireworks feel far from an SOS signal to me, even if that was the ship master's use for them we use them to party
SOS would be hard though, need to remember if you're burnt out you can't use your equipped cosmetic so in most SOS cases you wouldn't be able to even use some sort of flare to even be able to SOS.
oak berry
i completely forgot about that
late mountain
I think we got onto it because more items seem to be on the horizon for beta so now we're all brainstorming possibilities.
sullen relic
SOS might've made more sense for the spirit captain itself though, we've never seen if the spirits can actually go extinguished like we can as sky kids or whether their items become unuseable if the spirits themselves can get extinguished (i'm going with the idea that everything on our own sky kids are a projection of light that stops working when we can't emit light properly)
...that might have gone into more assumed lore than i realised
late mountain
@sullen relic We've seen a spirit presumed die a few times and they still had all their cosmetics visible so couldn't seem to burn out in their scenes, but they can be destroyed by light damaging effects so I think they are already in the vulnerable state, if they burn out then poof, like a zero star kid. I think the spirit itself is just a remnant, the real person behind the spirit is well
oak berry
when youre trying to save an afk person with a campfire spell but the campfire wont light up
late mountain
Oof, been there. I usually toss a table on them in forest.
oak berry
i dont have any table spells, only a campfire that is currently not cooperating
fervent patrol
Wait a sec...
Did anyone check if the skid from Ushering Spirit's memory has the chest circle thing that we also have..?
sullen relic
imagine if you put a table on top of an extinguished afk player who's lying down in the rain...only for them to try sitting up, and then losing a winged light when they bonk their head on the table you put on top of them
late mountain
I may also make sure I deep call to get them fully lit thankfully.
oak berry
im extinguishing myself from doing this, and no one hasnt come to help yet
sullen relic
i'm not sure if we can get a clear angle on it butterfly, i'll go look now
i expect it would though if it's using the same base model as a regular shade
late mountain
Can we see the chest circle when extinguished?
fervent patrol
Thanks, cause if it doesn't, that could confirm that its the same skid from Eden. Cause the kid we hug in Eden doesnt have one
finite meteor
yall remember when the chest circle was actually a blinding circle and not an oval
fervent patrol
@late mountain It's still there when we get extinguished. Its just dark
sullen relic
their left arm is covering the spot where the circle is
late mountain
Do they have a back circle or diamond?
oak berry
the person sat down and went home it seems, i think i interrupted someone going capeless
sullen relic
not visible in translucent form, no -- i might need to fully complete the cutscene to confirm (looking at the still form before the full cutscene right now)
late mountain
Aww, I mean usually they honk and jump away if they're trying to lose stars.
sullen relic
i couldn't make out any details on that cutscene kid -- either they don't have it, or they're covering it in the foetal curl pose
spark lance
Crashing everywhere omg
oak berry
or maybe i did save them, they didnt thank me or anything though
just sat up and poofed
spark lance
Anyone else notice spirits are giving candle wax again like it's the first time reliving them?
sullen relic
all spirits, or just the two revamped ones in question?
spark lance
@sullen relic all of the spirits but crashes make it hard
sullen relic
brb going to relive all 37 regular spirits
tiny umbra
Brb doing the same thing
finite meteor
hey guys im back from watching the gummy bear album that was in stores on november 13th hows beta after a few minutes
oak berry
beta seems pretty much the same other than bugs and the update that came
tiny umbra
Oh I just noticed the pickaxe in the rejecting voyager memory, i know it was probably always there but I just thought that spirit was grumpy turns out they were telling their friend not to harvest the plants
fervent patrol
Oooohh...
modern storm
The latest update says travelling spirits updates. What exactly is being updated?
There is also a pin functionality? What is that?
fervent patrol
TS Update won't be apparent until the next TS comes, so it seems yall have to wait for that
copper bison
sorry i'm kind of late.
ts update won't activate until next ts.
the you and i pin/spell should be working now. (though from what i hear it isn't.)
fierce drift
My friend noticed that she got a candle after reliving a spirits memory but I wasn't able to get one. Is this supposed to happen or is it a bug?
reef vault
New beta update?
sand dawn
Relive a few more double check..?
I don’t know if it’s a bug.. but the extra wax is niceee
fierce drift
I see, we tried a few and she got candles but I didn't
copper bison
it's most likely a bug, but i'm not sure. some other people got candles too
sullen relic
possibly related, but the first time i relived the spirits in beta, i didn't notice myself getting candles -- this might just be those same ones but delayed for anyone who didn't get them if that's what happened?
sand dawn
I got like 24 candles or so.. reliving all spirits together