Kay some bugs just aren't that easy to fix. TGC is a small indie game developer team of about 30-40 people and they have a LOT they're working on right now. Live definitely gets waaaaaay less bugs than beta but it's impossible for the game to be 100% bug free even live. They do try their best to put out the least amount of bugs possible
@random gull I watched the ending scene after orbit and there were so many staffs in TGC?
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not all those people are TGC staff. some are just people who helped along the way. for example, Tom Zhao is there but he no longer works for TGC iirc
just counted it from their site, 32 developers. The credits probably do credit a lot of people who aren't actively working on the game like the orchestra that plays the music you hear in game and such.
Is the death loop got fixed in beta? Or the live players will have to bug report it as well later?
eden death loop is an eternal work in progress it seems. I did still get death loop on beta about a week or so ago.
I refer to the death loop in fire trial.
iirc that death loop was fixed rather early on
oh yes that's been fixed
Is the death loop not fixed?
Im actually currently doing all the live trials right now cause I went to eden yesterday, it's been smooth so far
I did die purposefully quite a few times when they said death loop was fixed and didn't get stuck in a loop so I'd say yeah it's fixed
And the moth bug is another bug that's hard to fix, seems every time there's a possible fix for it the moth bug says "no" and gives us a new problem
like our spells dissapearing
I actually haven't encountered moth bug in a while 
I did yesterday
but we passed through a portal and it fixed
my friend on live has a weird version of moth bug where they appear like a moth to everyone but themselves 
oh that's interesting. have they reported it yet?
Buff Moff
ill have to ask her
I'm moth bug free since 156285
Hope it stays that way


It makes me a little sad that people are blaming beta testers and the devs for bugs sneaking their way into live 
kai has the shiny yellow emojis
the shiny yellow emotes don't come from a super secret server
Kai has had them for a while 
If I could I'd use them too.
I convinced Ktjn to let us have our external emotes back in this channel a while ago. probably gonna get that privelege taken away again at the next invite wave so I will use them until then
i'm a mere humble beta tester, farmin' ma bugs with care, mowin' glitches
It's very flattering that people think us beta testers have power over bugs, but in reality all we can do is report them and hope that the information we provide is enough to be able to squash those annoyances.
It aint much, but it's honest work 🤠
No one have power over the bugs except the devs. But beta tester have power to report bugs. I wonder if beta player encountered the earth trial bugs that sends u back to the beginning of the trial if u fall at the end of the labyrinth where you have to jump over some blocks to go to the statutes to pray.
As someone else already pointed out, even if we all report the same bug(s) it doesn't mean that the problem will be fixed in time for the Live release. Sometimes bugs are hard to replicate for the devs to find what's wrong in the code. If you're curious about what has been reported you can browse the bug channels.
also some bugs never show up in beta and pop in live for some odd reason
That does not answer the question tho, have beta testers encountered the bug that i was talking about?
like bel said, you can check the bug report channel for that info
I do remember talk about that earth trial bug here, so yes, we have ?
Why do you need such a specific answer? The answer is probably, but I honestly don't remember what with all the other things we've all been reporting. It feels like you're pointing fingers, when it's not really our responsibility.
Even you are not so sure.
I completed the trials like 10 different times before prophecy hit live and never encountered that bug, I completed the trial of earth a lot of times for skips in beta and also live but never personally found it,
@spark lance hey beta tester don't have to know every bug before they hit live.
some bugs are device specific. hooray for the unpredictable chaos that is bug hunting and game development
That is the dilemma i think.. Live players think beta players did not do their job, beta players think live players pointing fingers.
Though I do remember the reason for it was because the server merged and cleared the trial, and you didn't need to light that checkpoint, so it sent you back to the last checkpoint you actually touched, which was at the beginning. If this answers your question, yea, we've seen it, it's not our fault its still in live. It's a hard bug, I don't even think it is a bug, if you didn't hit the checkpoint then ?
the one bug that hit Android a while back with the crazy graphics was never encountered in beta, iirc. it just showed up in live for no reason
There was a bug where you would be be teleported back to the start of the Earth trial, unless you kept lighting the shrine at the end. But that was fixed in a recent patch to Live. Is that the one you mean?
That is the dilemma i think.. Live players think beta players did not do their job, beta players think live players pointing fingers.
Beta players would be pointing fingers, if they truly believe it's the beta players' fault for bugs existing in the game. That shows a lack of understanding of how game programming works, as well as what beta testing (for Sky) is about.
I think it is very helpful for non-beta players to read through the #beta-faq to learn more about how the beta program actually works so there's no blameshifting or other issues 
The beta program can be confusing for people to understand if they have no reference or information about it, which is one of the reasons why the #beta-faq exists in the first place. New beta players have the same learning curve as well. Just because we're in beta doesn't mean that we know everything about the game or how the beta program works 
This also, isn't a job, it's us volunteering to help. 👁️
Ultimately, TGC always has the last say, regardless of how many times we give feedback or report issues. It's their game.
When I first joined beta, I knew that all IAP were free, but still hesitated to buy anything because I had an irrational fear that I'd get charged and then refunded for it or something. Beta moth me was not very smart 
There was a bug where you would be be teleported back to the start of the Earth trial, unless you kept lighting the shrine at the end. But that was fixed in a recent patch to Live. Is that the one you mean?
Beta players would be pointing fingers, if they truly believe it's the beta players' fault for bugs existing in the game. That shows a lack of understanding of how game programming works, as well as what beta testing (for Sky) is about.
cloudberry 🌈#5443 hou played libe you would understood.
I didn't have that fear cause I didn't have a bank account to attach to my app store, it was a gift card balance instead 
most, if not all beta players, play the live version of the game though? Beta isn't a substitution for live?
I played Live for 3 months before joining the Discord and even hearing about the beta program. If there were bugs, I just dealt with them and trusted that the dev team would fix them. Even after I joined the Discord, I never thought to blame the beta testers for bugs because they don't intentionally put bugs in the game??
Why tgc limits numbers of beta players?
cloudberry 🌈#5443 hou played libe you would understood.
@spark lance I don't understand. What do you mean?
I played Live for 3 months before joining the Discord and even hearing about the beta program. If there were bugs, I just dealt with them and trusted that the dev team would fix them. Even after I joined the Discord, I never thought to blame the beta testers for bugs because they don't intentionally put bugs in the game??
@prime lintel who said beta testers put the bugs there?
iirc, both TestFlight and Google Play themselves limit the beta invite slots?
@spark lance I don't understand. What do you mean?
@hollow compass hmm maybe you lack of something but I don't know as well.
@spark lance what I mean is that I never considered the beta testers as responsible for the existence of bugs? Why would I? They literally have no control over the game? That was my point 
@spark lance I beg your pardon?
@spark lance what I mean is that I never considered the beta testers as responsible for the existence of bugs? Why would I? They literally have no control over the game? That was my point
@prime lintel and?
@spark lance I beg your pardon?
@hollow compass pardon granted.
@spark lance If you only came here to troll and cause a fight, please reconsider. It's not appreciated on this server and you could get both muted and booted for it.
I think this conversation is going a little too fast. Please slow down a little and try to understand what the person is saying before jumping to respond. I can't even reply right now because I am having use voice to text to keep from having typos
Hi! I'm a live player but I saw something in the beta channels that I'd like to ask about is it ok? It's not in FAQ

Sorry, Kai. I think this person is only trying to cause trouble and being rude on purpose.
regarding a post about why there's a limit, if it was even possible for there to be no limit to beta (not sure if there is a limit) i'm pretty sure most players would end up playing beta instead of live due to features in beta such as early seasons, free iaps, etc. (of course these are for testing purposes, but even with the slot limit people still only join beta for these features and take up a slot for someone who actually wants to help.
) it would end up being pretty chaotic too when or if progress ends up getting wiped. this might not be the actual reason, but using my common sense i came up with this answer.
sorry for the long post!
Makes sense, kai!
I've seen this thing about shepherd's in sky, what are they and how do u get to be one (on beta)

What i want to say is that, when the trials is on linve, there should be no major bugs. There will be no major bugs if the testers reported it no? Who are the testers?
@haughty perch the Shepherd system is a mysterious friendliness ranking and that's really all we know.
Ah thank u!! I started to see more posts so I started to get confused whether it in live or not 
@spark lance What we are all telling you as beta tester is that this is not possible. You have a lot of more eloquent answers further up.
Sorry, Kai. I think this person is only trying to cause trouble and being rude on purpose.
@hollow compass that is what you think. Think abt others as well. Im trying to fingure out something. Let other who understand what i am saying to respond. You with your think will going nowhere.
Shepherd system, a mysterious friendliness ranking
-ktjn, in #beta-faq
we don't really know how it works, but the general idea is to do friendship actions. (some people get the bar to raise by doing nothing though-)
As said earlier, there is no guarantee that the bug is (1) encountered on beta or (2) fixed in time for release to live. There's a massive amount of devices that can run Sky, and some bugs are literally only encountered on certain systems. Beta testing slots are limited, meaning that some systems may not be even represented in beta. That's just how beta testing works. TGC tries to make fixes based on the data that they have, but it may not always be enough at times. Please keep in mind that TGC is a small team with about 20-30 people on the engineering/dev team.
@spark lance I have been nothing but civil and helpful towards you. You are the one who started being rude and then sarcastic when I asked for a clarification.
we've reported lots of bugs. but sometimes the bugs are hard to fix. like moth bug, which has been in the game for months, due to how hard it is to fix. just because we report bugs, doesn't mean that they will get fixed right away. the dev team has to prioritize certain things too, like making new content along side bug fixing. it's a complicated process, but rest assured, we report as many bugs as we can 
Some bugs are just so random and never show up in testing that even the devs are confused about where they come from
@spark lance I don't think people really understand you here since you're assuming that we should discover every bug and report them to get fixed by the time it gets to live when that's just not true, sometimes even a bug fix can cause a bug elsewhere in the same zone
But I think Aeras has given the best response to your question 
I want to try and make it so Kay can understand but I can't type well right now
I can't be helpful today
At this point we're all just repeating what we've already said before. If OP has any other questions, feel free to ask away.
there are lots of bugs that we've seen throughout testing that have been patched before going to live, and there are bugs that sneak into live because of time/difficulty with fixing them, and then there are some that we've never seen in beta, and only affects live. there are so many factors to testing, but at the end of the day, us testers can't do much with fixing bugs, and the dev team are always working to make the game better. I hope this clarifies things 
we've reported lots of bugs. but sometimes the bugs are hard to fix. like moth bug, which has been in the game for months, due to how hard it is to fix. just because we report bugs, doesn't mean that they will get fixed right away. the dev team has to prioritize certain things too, like making new content along side bug fixing. it's a complicated process, but rest assured, we report as many bugs as we can
@slim kayak ahhh.. Okay.. Understood. Thanks for clarifying.
Kai, don't worry, we've got this. 
@spark lance I have been nothing but civil and helpful towards you. You are the one who started being rude and then sarcastic when I asked for a clarification.
@hollow compass what?
as for bugs, beta testers are human as well and can't catch every bug. we just do what we can and try to report what we find. and not every bug will be fixed right away, like beta testers, the people at tgc are humans too and can't fix every single bug with a snap of their fingers. some are more harder to fix than other bugs. some bugs are device specific, some bugs might not even be in beta but are in live. 
game development is wild
Kai, don't worry, we've got this. :RainbowHeart:
@hollow compass nahh.. You don't got it.. @slim kayak got it..
some days it's quite literally one step forward, two steps back, and something is on fire and we don't know where or why
@hollow compass nahh.. You don't got it.. Aeras got it..
@spark lance I'm sorry, why are you being so rude towards me for no reason?
Keep it respectful please. I think everyone tried to tell the same thing but using different approach to the topic. 
teamwork!
I said the exact same thing as Aeras and then asked what "hou played libe you would understood" was supposed to mean, to which OP just replied with nonsensical comments and sarcasm. 
How long has everyone been participating in the beta program? I got in for the Sanctuary wave, but I know many here have been testing for much longer. I love learning more about the other beta testers to get to know everyone better 
I wish I had more time to play beta, but I barely have time to play live.
Hoping to have some free time coming up soon so I can get back into it! Squash those bugs 
I've been testing since sanctuary too! 
I'm one of those old ones who started out in beta first before Live even existed. 
i came into beta before live for android testing, i believe it'll be a year by next week
bel is a fossil 
I've been on beta simnce March. Tested enchantment 
i've been here since sanctuary as well. but i've been spectating here since the end of enchantment, hoping to find out more about beta. 
This is actually my first time in beta! I love being able to help and find those bugs so live can enjoy the game more!

if people are having a hard time understanding each other, I find that apologies in DM are more effective than trying to hash it out in public channels
Sanctuary
. And not planning to abandon the program soon 
Wow, the game has come so far already! It's only just been a year since it released in live, and there's so many new features, areas, and all! Love how this game brings everyone together 
Just a reminder that someone else's thought process on something won't be the same as yours on something and isn't the standard all the time, everyone starts with different mindsets and there is no right way to think of it. Saying "well when I did this... etc etc-" in a not discussion way is is ehhhhhhh.
I personally of the opinion that certain parts of this server are a little- unfriendly to people whose first language was not english who are going to make mistakes and typos, but that's different from this and off topic.
(i had a bigger paragraph but im gonna hit send before i regret deleting it)
Yes, there's lots of us who are not English speakers from the start. It's good to keep in mind when discussing things. Correct words can be hard to remember or can get mixed up sometimes.
It's always easier to keep a wrong impression than to release ourselves from cognitive dissonance and instead emanate confusion or anger. We're all friends, just remember that when someone's comments strike us the wrong way
alex your pfp is scaring me
it's supposed to be scary, but in an old-timey beta way
Same

.....old-timey beta way scary? 
what horrors did I miss
what is even happening in the pfp
i see the old symbol on your skykid in your pfp 
I'll post a video in #beta-screenshots-videos
Hello guys
beta lore beta lore 
when i first hovered over it i think discord lagged and did a flash of black and white which was not pleasant 
nope! It's part of the pfp, kai! It's a gif. Scared me too and had to view it a few times before I realized that it was intentional 
yeah, i'm aware it's a gif. when i do it again it's more of a transition, but it was really fast so i think discord lagged.
(that or i wasn't expecting it aaaa🇦 )
I can't tell what it is either. It's too small.
Just gotta wait till the video is sent 
More reasons why I'm glad I wasn't in old beta. I see pictures and videos from then and it makes my head spin. I probably would have quit sky and never came back 
i think alex mentioned in gen chat that it's a barrier?
Nah, old beta Sky wasn't scary, but it could be frustrating and very buggy.
Looks like sky kid in Alex’s pfp got to much candy from trick or treat 🤔
Underwater ice rink in old beta though
the purple colors
valley in old beta! purple all over, so pretty
wish i could have tested back then, but android said nope
I know. I didn't like hovering over it much either. I'm glad gif pfp isn't automatic unless you mouse over them.
it was a barrier
#beta-screenshots-videos
Kai, DO NOT go watch Alex' video!
Wow I saw Alex’s video on sky used to be so different!
it’s so interesting
and yes do not click on that video Kai 
I made mitsake 
Lol at the friend's name, Alex! I remember that one. I also remember the "this area is under construction". 
nope don't like that
Homesoace witg stormmlock bad for mre
it's amazing how far the game has come
TGC has been doing an amazing job with the updates
oh wow in the first wedge it use looks like it's swimming
you used to have to find cosmetics throughout the realms iirc?
I have hours and hours and hours of old sky videos... some of most memorable stuff I can't find though, like the animal statues at the end of vault ....
Animal statues?
My speech to text not workingnow. I type slow. Very cool to learn about old beta 
Oh. Wow. Yeah. The ruined that last bit in Vault. I remember that. Well, "ruined", more like changed.
That must have been so interesting actually finding the cosmetics

"interesting" or infuriating when the krill STOLE our emotes
Chamnged for accessibility maybe?
Krill stole emotes

hit so hard, you forget how to laugh
Well, "ruined". But there used to be statues around the shrine where you end up after meditating at the top of Vault.
And you would have to go find the spirits out in the world to get everything back.
stars didn't exist back then, so you lost emotes instead. glad for the change
I think maybe that's why I have such strong bonds or feelings for some of those spirits...?
Imagine losing a gratitude emote 
And they were around the shrine like the statues in current vault then?
Losing seasonal emotes would have been awul if seasons had existed back then
i kinda wish we could find some cosmetics in the realms, like a treasure hunt. that'd be fun
I do feel that a lot of their stories have been lost over time, unfortunately.
We’re you able to upgrade emotes back then? And if so, would you have to upgrade them again after losing them?
or did you just get the upgrades back
I'm happy we can relive spirit memory whenever now
Iirc you had to survive eden and the emotes you didnt lose would be locked in 
the old flight system looks interesting as well 
Storm
There were different solutions, but yes, you would lose your emotes/upgrades going through Eden (or being hit by a krill).
Could you chose which emotes you lost 
Didn’t we get to keep the upgrades from the emotes ?? I kinda forgot
I wonder how different eden and the realms were in old beta
Hm, unsure? There were so many iterations of Storm/Eden.
Oh, you can see the statue at the end of Vault at the very end of Alex' second video.
I never got to upgrade all my emotes cause I as never able to deliver all of them in storm cause of the lack of knowledge back then ( like fiends could help you with the use of warp 😂)
I still remember that time when the statues in Eden had your friends' names. Sorry I'm always on about that, but it was a little traumatising.
Omg that would be so sad

Oh dear they did?? I like how the ascended children you fly with to orbit do but that's just

I would probably cry every time I saw my friends basically dead in eden

yikes, then seeing someone who hasn't played for a long time as a statue 
I found it harder to see my good, active friends there. There was this urgency to light them first.
The goal used to be to survive also...
I once saw a friend who hasnt played in months while in the flight to orbit 
And then the knowledge you only saved those friends but not everyone
? i’m glad i haven’t been there back then.
that's so sad, being the only survivor out of all of your friends 
The emotional impact is there, but not necessarily the good one

Tbh, I think Eden is at its best now. The only thing I wish they hadn't added was that last krill before the tunnel.
”yes I too think it’s sad” I say, smiling excitedly cause it fuels a long time theory of mine.
I want to hear
that krill just wants to make sure you get a nice, warm hug before you go to orbit
trust me, tunnel krill. you always gave me a nice warm hug before stormlock 
Somethin something “moths are statues you save from stormlock” something underneath “hey wouldn’t it be cool if you died before the constant red rain you got trapped as a statue”
First ones the theory, second ones something that crosses my mind every now and then that I drop as soon as it comes
I don't understand why the krill has to be there. It's been hard enough to get all that way already. 
whoa, it's super late here! I need to go to the sleep thing. Have fun!
goodnight blep!
Good night 
have a good sleep 
I should have listened to you guys warning Kai about the light 
I'm so glad that Eden's lightning doesn't flash the whole entire screen, wow 
Sometimes I wonder what happens if you died in eden but not in stormlock, theoretically 
I watch it too without warning. it bad 
yeah, the flashing was a bit much 
even i thought it was a lot, and i'm not photosensitive. glad that's changed
It would be nice to have included a warning message, yeah ... 
Old beta is really interesting though, the graphics... The character design looks the same but something about the characters themselves just looks different
The part of me that wants everyone to suffer says that if you die outside of Eden you get stuck as a statue and someone has to pay ac to free you
Don’t worry I’m sensible, that would be torture 
a lonely statue of a moth in forest who didnt make it to a lantern
Actually that would be somewhat interesting, IF and ONLY IF there was some sort of a limbo space to explore and basically keep playing Sky in 
Even if there was a limbo space I don’t think I’d log in anymore after that happened 
Poor friends of mine who likes to fell asleep in the middle of Wasteland. 
A friend of mine fell asleep in forest and woke up in the pity star room incredibly confused 
coming back from Eden with 16 ac, heading straight for forest and wasteland “OK, WHO WANTS TO BE REVIVED”
oh yeah, i was going to say this about an hour ago but i forgot until just now. i finally got time to guide my friend through some of water trial via voice before they had to go do something. they thought that was hard, i can't wait for their reaction to the other three trials. 
what happens if everyone gets trapped as a statue? 
No but seriously, tgc don’t do that I would cry

Zombie apocalypse but it’s the Eden statues making it out of stormlock
That would be another game Eden: statue children or children statues? Ehh english. Exe stopped working
Imagine when you free a player youd get taught an emote 
I would actually love it if they added more to Eden. I would do Eden every week in beta just to check it out 
after freeing a player: "oh boy, i learned how to cry!" 
Imagine when you free a player youd get taught an emote
@oak berry is that not what you do to the spirits anyways essentially
well you're right about that
I read
’Imagine when you free a player youd get laughed at’

We did it team we came full circle 
frees a player “I have the sudden urge to do a handstand”
Sky, but you learn emotes from other skykids 
What happened to the very first skykid ever 
Learning friendship tree emotes on a day to day basis. One could fill up a little every day you interact until you get the emote. Like the friendship constellation with the heart fragments.
Why unlock with candles, when you can unlock with memories

Imagine waiting several weeks to learn how to clap or say no 
I meant the ones like headpat etc. waiting for saying no would be deadly
I mean, it took till enchantment for skykids to learn how to shrug or nod
Well the official phrase is to build friendships with the spirits by buying stuff, it would be nice if they did more than just stand there or take money from you only to be like “cool, I gave you my cape, can I go now” 
It took skykids up until prophecy to learn how to b r e a t h e 
Breath without nose and mouth. Thats a hard skill 
Gills 
How to zoom in on a skykid’s neck without being weird about it, unless the gills are somewhere else
hm
i don't remember skykids having necks 
hold on let me just hop on netease sky-
Skykids have turtlenecks, we can’t see their neck
they do, it's hidden by the collar
ah, that makes more sense 
is that why they wear turtlenecks?
anyhow, the final-ish cutscene confuses me because the guide is there with the other prophets, i thought he was some narrator but that completely debunks it
I can hear lore chat going off already 
This is making me search up all the non adult spirits in sky and lookin at their necks to see if they have one, maybe it’s cause skykids are kids 
But if qg isnt a narrator, are they the one giving out the prophecies? Or a prophet of light maybe? 
Why are they a narrator if they have that halo and mask and drum, those items seem a little too important to not be involved
, or, since they’re the one showing skykids the murals, they might be a leftover or a student of the prophets themselves? Maybe the last one remaining or the one who graduated
Or maybe they’re equivalent to a school principal and leeching off the prophets who knows
because he has no direct involvement during the spirit memories, unlike the guide from sanctuary, i came to that conclusion because he doesn't appear in the murals either, basically nothing of importance during the past
#beta-lore-discussion xD
Is he just there then??
it feels like it, but i don't want it to be
if qg is based off anubis then maybe he's watching over the dead or the spirits in their afterlife
Green bring that to lore chat I wanna see their thoughts 
see you there 👀
that has been brought up a few times in lore chat
I wish I snagged a silhouette picture in spooky office now that I think about it 
I wished I got a single aesthetic picture in halloween office, all I took was videos of me getting krilled 
Lemme see if I have at least one aesthetic picture 
I do!
I'll post it in #beta-screenshots-videos
I hope the translations comes to live. It's a bit buggy but it's a real life saver
it camt trannlsat my typoss
autocorrect will be the next feature xD
phoone autoocorct gave upon me
I think sometimes translator managed to translate my typos correctly, and if someone talked with me at least once knows I make a looot of those. But i should check it tomorrow.
Do beta players already have 11 stars?
Wait is this the appropriate place to ask such questions or should I go to questions and help
yep, this is the place to ask.
and yes, some beta players have 11 stars due to a bug.
I remember hearing that the fire trial would give the last wing light needed, so why would it be a bug? Also is there a different appearance for the 11th star?
ohh right, the ts came out so you no longer needed the bug for it. sorry, i forgot e.e
the ui for the 11th ledge has came out, but the pattern on the cape hasn't yet i believe
Oh ok, thank you
How many lights for the 12th wedge?
i believe you need 200, and apparently 11 is possible in live? (i didn't know that what my brain-) #screenshots-and-videos message
200! fair but brutal
I think it's possible for some people in live because of that one time we got the Gratitude dismiss emote briefly as the traveling spirit when it was supposed to be a different one, so some people got an extra wing buff from that before TGC fixed it
It'll be more legitimately possible for more people on Monday once the fire trial is released
Limited live have that one too I think?
currently in a server with 3 invisible cape chibis. seems like there were more people who got it than i thought 
a llot of ppeople got it afetr infinte pass bug
yeah, people exploited that bug heavily 
my candles never converted like some others. but it was interesting to see people's reaction to the currency reset 
minne never comnverted eitther. hadd to hide
i don't remember my candles converting, but that was most likely because i wasn't online during that time because i could only play on weekends then. i returned after the currency wipe so i never saw if my candles converted.
that or my poor memory is being very nice right now
mine were reset halfway through buying the entire constellation
Do u know which ts will come?
we don't know, ts in beta come at the same time as live ones
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Short answer is no
Long answer is skybot
:'(
yyaay i splled rigght 
I rlly want to know
teeaser foor TS revealled on tuessday
You’ll have to wait for Tuesday
I’m just as curious as you are, but beta doesn’t get everything early
i was going to do the command but i decided 'nah, i'll type it out'
we don't have any head starts on tses, they come the same time as live like i've said before, so just wait for the teaser. 
Which ts ur guys want to come?

Sassy, I need a break from cr ing and all of my main live friends either didn’t buy the mask last time or joined right after she left,
But ah,
That’s a convo for #general-sky-discussion 
Ok I go bed now
i'm hoping for
or something, even though i wouldn't be able to get it, i know others who want that one so i hope they get it.
and yeah, that's more #general-sky-discussion stuff.
i'm gonna go take a break my head hurts 
How many days til the season will end on beta? Haven't played for a while
about 10 days left
What is the shepherd system in beta?
it's a mysterious friendliness ranking. it lets more friendly players see who the new players are and help them out if they want to
no one knows how it works though. we assume that by doing things like making friends, leading them through realms, leveling their friendship trees, etc., the bar that indicates the role goes up. it can also go down if you are inactive
When it come to live? In the update next?
We don’t think it will come into live any time soon but it might at some point! 
Someone pulled a Kai earlier, they friended me and then ran off 
Which Kai?
Good morning peoples 🤍
Does anyone know when beta season ends ? , I weren’t expecting it to last this long tbh... not that I’m complaining
we arent really sure as of now... the in-game timer isnt really accurate either
Sorry for the late reply, but the shepherd system has been in beta for over a year now. It's probably not going to live anytime soon, since we've had little to no changes on the system for a few months now
I personally don't see any real reason for it to be there. If you're a friendly person, you will still be that regardless of the meter. Theoretically it can sometimes be good to see that someone is new in the game, but even older players need help from time to time, so I'm not sure the moth heart badge is of any real use either. But perhaps others feel differently?
Oh, and not all new players want help either. Some definitely want to explore on their own and us vets grabbing them by the hand and leading them around can even be confusing or a negative experience.
I agree , it’s good to see who the new players are ... yea we all need help sometimes it’s nice just to have the company .....I think also it can be used negatively which I hope doesn’t happen ....but it’s a good idea to know who the genuine new players are considering the rumours that are circulating
Unfortunately, I'm not so optimistic. It seems that for every good thing in Sky, there's twice the amount of bad/trolling happening. It's just disheartening.
So true actually , their are many negative things going on atm on sky ...people will be people though .
Also I wanted to ask because I see someone this morning doing it but is their a emote where the person pretends to do drums ( air drums ) .it makes the noise as they do it ... the person today had two levels of this emote
Hm, not sure. It could be some sort of glitch while wearing a drum, maybe? Like emoting while having the drum out? Or it's a new bug that the drum isn't showing? Did you get a video of it?
It’s definitely a emote cause you can see them pretend to have drumsticks in their hands and do the drums in thin air
The second level adds a cymbal at the end
Oh, wow. That doesn't sound good. 😕
I thought so, it’s the second person I herd have this ... it’s like I recognise it but don’t ... I can’t explain ..., I’m gonna go through all my emotes today ..but I’m 99.9 percent sure this has been got when not meant to have it
Bub boom boom tiss ... that’s the noise it makes 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol, like that "I made a joke" badum-tish?
an emote for when a friend makes a horrible pun?
😂😂 yep badum tish
I did video them after but they not do it again ...🤍🤍
Does anyone know what to do in the Office
Light some candles, have fun and goof around. Watch the spirit stories, go to space on space day or fly the cat.
Which Cat??
The one that flies around the office on Cat Day.
The office is really just a giant Easter Egg.
Lol, speaking of the coloured lights! Today we got blue light quest.
And we didn’t even do a summoning circle
apparently, cancelling your TGC cape spell right after you pass the vault barrier isn't a good idea if you're running solo, you'll actually run into a reset wall 
the protection measure's working as intended, but i didn't realise it was so dynamic that changing your cape mid-level would affect it
It's also the case if you bring friends through the barrier and you leave them there, works the same way
Haha , so crazy we got a coloured light today lol... so happy .. I hope to see the red and orange one make a appearance soon
Someone pulled a Kai earlier, they friended me and then ran off
@/1291addicted2reading#7262 ii knoow iit wwasnnt me. i wwasss aslleepp onn liivee SOORRY FOR PINNG I DDNT KNOOW i wass trryinng nott to pinng who i quoote hitt // twiice
I realised about 10 minutes ago that sky kids have so much swagger ...how could I not see this before 😂😂 ... slanted hat wearing ....it’s just my style ..no ifs no buts 😂 .. I posted a picture of my beta slanted hat wearing sky oc swagger
Tgc I have a idea
The season of swagger
Ultimate gift = swag juice 😂😂
The person who designs the outfits really has great taste and I would wear most their designs myself ... time to look up who designs them I guess ...
My motto is
ITS NOT WHAT YOU WEAR ITS HOW YOU WEAR IT
So it’s the way they are hung on our sky kids has so much swagger 😂😂.... seriously though ...it’s the small details in sky that really impress me ...Thankyou for the slanted hats tgc ... love them 🤍
I think they should add a swagger system instead of shepherd too ... the metre shows how much swag you got 😂😂
The crip walk emote would just put the cherry on top ... I’d crip walk between each candle I collect 😂😂
Anyways I’d like to say how grateful Iam to have the opportunity to test the most amazing game in beta....not many games if any let you test as a community like tgc does ... it’s rather beautiful I thinks 🤍🕊️🤍
Yooooooo I really wanted to ask this as soon as the Season was up for testing:
What's everyone's thoughts on the cosmetics, emotes and everything else about this Season?
Mine is definitely that the white fur tuft on the turtle Cape could have been similar to the unlit furry Rhythm Cape! And the emotes based on the turtle, lion, spider, and bat are really clever!
i llove the emootes! ddeep breath iss nicee
Tbh I hope there will be more emotes based on/inspired by animals
/deep breath is so fricken useful, i have a moth that panicked everytime they bonked, fly to the wrong location, and just does the panik emote all the time. they told me they thought they were slowing me down
I think the cosmetics are nice on their own, but they are difficult to combine with everything else we have in the game. I don't enjoy the trials, so the season as a whole isn't one I will cherish the way I do some of the others. But it's interesting lore-wise.
Yeah I have to agree with you with the cosmetics! It looks like the black Cape is the only aesthetically pleasing Cape to go with the prophecy pants.
i hoppe for morre cosmeticcsto go wel withh thesee
My phone doesn't compatible with sky..I mean my new phone..I think it is bcz of old version I think
Mostly I find the masks are bit too bulky, although I do like them on their own.
I like how the bat mask shows a portion of the kid's face like the Gratitude cow(?) mask. I hope there will be more masks that do the same thing
@radiant coral hi, this is the beta chat. I think you will get better help and suggestions in #questions-and-help or maybe #android-questions 🙂
The hairs for Prophecy are pretty good too. The air prophet hair frames certain masks well and I'm totally not going to cosplay as Princess Leia as soon as I have the white Cape! 
The prophecy once foretold of skykids that never rest. They never saw the darkness that swiftly engulfed them. Don’t forget to charge your phones 
I love the emotes and the cosmetics are amazing and I think they have done a amazing job on the whole season... yes I think it is the best by far and have really enjoyed it ... the trials I think are too amazing
until the very last update to fire and air destroyed me ever playing them again unless nessasary
I do love the hairs!
@radiant coral hi, this is the beta chat. I think you will get better help and suggestions in #questions-and-help or maybe #android-questions 🙂
@hollow compass oh sorry..wrong place
Ngl I fell in love with the earth prophet Cape because of the
shoulder pads 
Btw was the Juggle spirit's Cape meant to have the fur trims intentionally white when unlit? It looks very unique but was it intended by the Devs?
Also I think the name the season of prophecy has swagger 😂
the hairs this season are overshadowed by the bulky masks, you can barely see them lol
should I be concerned that I’ve been screaming over the mask for nearly 2 months straight now
i was hoping for rhythm's level of crazy hairs
FAN BRUSH HAIR YES
tall archetypal mad-scientist hair
ponytail but static tufts
I need more wacky hair in my life
Long beard is excellent
long beard
as in the really really long one
I love it so much
but i guess they're prophets not wack circus performers lol
Yes
but what’s going on with Earth Prophet’s hair
what is it
If spider cape glitters like on the spirit, it would be nice.
it looks kind of like siderolls
but now I think about it, pigtails but twisted in this way
honestly I’m glad my reference to Fire Trial was auto-deleted
Omg I see someone do the emote again @hollow compass .. it goes da da dala da da tiss .. with air drumsticks 🥁 .. ...maybe it’s legit but I’ve never herd it until today and a few weeks ago
How odd, if you can nab a recording you could ask that help bot. They were able to help tell me if something was an exploit or not since we shouldn’t be talking about it here if it is.
I did see someone on IG do some drumming sounds while having their candle out, which I know is a sort of glitch you can do. But I don't think any instrument we currently have has drumsticks as such.
Are you talking about the handstand emote from the air prophet? Because that makes those noises
Does it? I know the fire spirit has some percussive sounds to it. Air prophet is just the handstand in various versions, isn't it?
prophet clone reporting for duty! 
The way they worded it sounds like the air prophets emote sounds, but maybe that’s not what they meant
A lot of the Prophecy spirits have percussion sounds
Earth and Air especially come to mind
But the emote gestures he described didn't sound like any of those... 
Either way, if it isn't a legitimate emote, we probably shouldn't discuss it 
Nope it’s not emote from prophecy .... I have definitely never seen except them instances I said about and I don’t have the emote either .... the reason why I recognized it was because of the chest beat emote .. which has the tiss at the end ....
Nope I’m not saying they have a instrument either .. it’s a emote
Time to get to the bottom of this .. I shall go to my inside source and find out ...because I’ve missed chances to report people that may have been a must to report ...
Good luck!
@hollow compass I asked you in the first place because you been playing since it was even thought of lol
If I had got a video of it u would of guessed it
My bad for explaining it bad but everytime I see and hear it -it was by surprise so I never really got a good look .. I just see their hand go up at the end and drama in between 😂
Anyways
I know what it is now ... omg ... craziness ... they knew strait away and all I said was it looked kind of like they were playing air drums with the noise too ... it’s the salute emote from gratitude .... I’m not the only one that thought what I thought -so I don’t feel stupid now ... and they were okay with me messaging them 🤍🕊️🤍
Another problem solved scooby Dooby dooo 😂😂😂😂
Thankyou for the help blep everyone else who tried... it’s been on my mind for some weeks now
...So it was an actual emote? 
the sfx for somersault kinda sounds like a rimshot to me, but this is a different emote?
oh but maybe we shouldn't be discussing it at all 
I think he was talking about the Greeting Shaman and just didn't recognize it 
Oh well, as long as the question is solved 
oh wait now i got it! i never see anyone use gratitude salute tbh
is it even in beta? 
Yes, beta got that ts, and some testers who were there during gratitude have it too
I couldn't get anubis mask in beta

Oh! I'm glad it was resolved in a good way, @desert mango
I have that emote, but I'm unsure what levels. Maybe only two?
It’s a emote that has never come in ts to live and is another one I walked passed during the season with my dumbness 😭... my own fault for not reading in game instructions or asking anyone ... me being me want to figure out for myself ... I’m happy to say I learnt from that mistake 🙂 but it will never give me the deer mask that I could of had ... but yep I walked passed that and waved goodbye ... how depressing 😂😂😂🤣
It is what it is ... I’m happy I gots to the bottom of the mystery emote anyways 🤍🕊️🤍 thanks all 😘
dismiss? I donnt think i havve that on betta. TS starrted after I joineed live butt was tessting beforre I joined betaa in marchh
I posted it in screenshots. Gratitude was cut short in beta, so our old-timers often have various scattered pieces and emotes from it.
Omg I love it ..Thankyou for posting it , I actually got to see it clearly... I wish I had it ... it’s my favourite now.. wahhhhh
ohh thatts cutee 
I have all levels in Live, though.
It’s been on my mind for weeks ... it’s such a cool emote ... I’d use it loads .. so many situations to use it
Mainly ... sarcastically 😂😂 ... yeah for sure 🙂
Haha, I use it more like a "at your service".
Lol .. yeah ..like that ...
i really love that emote
psppspspspspsps come pls
I’d pay to have that emote ... it’s nice to have something you request in sky .. I look forward to getting it someday 🤍
Its so cute! Yeah, I remember dismiss was a glitched ts, but I didn't get it
Trying to post the other levels from my Live account, but it's not working. Might need to restart my wifi.
I didn’t know it existed ... so happy I do 🕊️🤍🕊️
it's so good i keep kidnapping my gratitude friends to do it
Gratitude was a good season.
Dispite of it came too many times...
Lol, true.
I like it a lot ... just as much as the face plant one that was removed
isn't that lying down with one of the stances?
oh, wait you mean the 🤦♂️ ! maybe they thought it would be too rude for some players? 😮
Anyone got 150 winged lights?
@hollow compass Every Season was Good except Prophecy. Really sorry to say this but its the truth.
I got the reverse (051) because ..... laziness 
Aww why don’t you like Prophecy Shatish? 🥺
@mossy lintel Why don’t you like prophecy? 
there are some people in beta who have 150wings,yes
and in live too, because of the bugged TS
ngl prophecy is my most favourite season so far 
@random coral Because the Spells are really costly and you have to unlock them 1st for getting a mask, unlike the last season where the spell nod was at the last( so i saved at least 60 Candles or more), but this season i won't be able to save any candles. Plus I don't like Goat mask.
I mean, The spirit nodes are gonna cost more, since there are less spirits.
True this season is costly
but this season is more of cosmetics rather than emotes which is why the masks are like that, Atleast that’s what I think
@eager ferry Thanx for another good point. Less Spirits!!!!!
that's fair. not every season will be loved by everyone. i love the trials, but i'm not too big on the cosmetics, other than the hairs. I know that there are lots of players who don't like the trials, and absolutely love the cosmetics. hopefully the next season will resonate with you more 
Season of Rhythm was also 330 candles, according to tea11's item chart
@slim kayak Well for Non Adventure pass players, even hair is not a good benefit or option.
@prime lintel But there were atleast 3 Pants Dude. I mean pants!! They cover for everything.
everyone has different likes and dislikes, and TGC tries to balance the number and types of cosmetics for both pass and non-pass players 
not everyone likes pants (looking at you, Ral)
Ral isn't here anymore, so the joke is lost 
non-pass holders get 2 capes as well, which i think is pretty fair. but again, every season has things that people will dislike. I'm just amazed that tgc was able to make the trials while working from home
@slim kayak Well yeah thats a lot of Hard Work. I really appreciate that.
I have 149 wings until fire
@desert mango Post a video on Youtube. It will sure get many views.
the 330 number is nice and easy to divide too
numbers like 274 were a pain to use 
i'm generally a free -2-play player, so I know how it feels to miss out on pass items that I like. but the new areas and trials more than make up for it for me.
also i have 146 wings. so close yet so far 
And the reason there’s less spirits is because this season is for a lot of lore and story and they didn’t want to shoehorn in spirits and expressions that didn’t make sense 
You Guys make Android players Jealous.@slim kayak @desert mango
i'm an android player 
Anyways I can’t wait to see what 11 wedges will look like

@slim kayak Hahaa. Lol
Android beta began before the traveling spirits were released, so everyone who was in beta when the travelers began will be close to 150 regardless of platform
also regular Android is only 3-4 behind iOS
When was Sky released on Android? Do any of you guys know actual Date?
yeah, i have the same amount of wl in beta and live, but because of a bug, some people in beta have 150 already. i think some live players too
android beta testing started during lightseekers. but live release was in april
Android was released in live in April, and the wiki has the exact date
@prime lintel So you mean after the Season of Enchantment. Correct?
no, right before enchantment started
after Season of Rhythm, before Season of Enchantment
Android players also joined during a double candles event lol
that was fun to witness. the poor players that were so confused about why they were getting significantly less candles 
also, crab call was our first ts that week. that was fun
Sadly I started playing in July. Always late, damn!!
oh yeah, crab call was insanely high
but worth it
I only started playing beta before Sanctuary, so I'm nowhere near 150 winged light + buffs in beta 
Ok Guys, thanks for clearing Doubts.
Gooddy Nightyyy.
imagine being a beta tester

soon™
join usssss 
I've had like, 5 chances to become a beta tester so far
Although I'm really busy a lot and I don't think I'd have enough time to eliminate bugs 
ii havvent been on betta properrly inn like 3 dayys
i gott uberr for dailly quessts thatts it
i haven't either, just to do more tests on the language filter and then hop out 
Guys which channel is the best channel for live bug discuss
bug report it in #report-a-live-bug first. probably #general-sky-discussion for talking about it though (voice to text for those wondering how I typed well. I did not type)
If you're unsure if what you're experiencing is a bug you can also ask in #questions-and-help to see if anyone else any suggested solution.
Kai is you adding ddouble lletters is this yyou hhaving isssues ttyping? I’m just wondering why you said your using voice to chat ..... Hmmm sorrry it seems a bit fake ... apologies if I’m wrong ...but if that was meant to be serious (I hope I missed the joke ) then I’m sorry but it’s very transparent
handss shakiing a lot. hit keyss twice somettimes
Ohhh sorry ... that explains it 🤍
Kai, why were you awake at 4 am 
ii jusst woke upp then! ii took a napp agaiin 7amm
Hmm, okay
Hope you got enough sneep! Also don't worry if you accidentally ping me, I don't have notifications on for pings so I don't mind
Omg the bot done the salute emote 😳
i pinnged someonne named // because ii triedd to not ping who i quotted but hitting keys twiice sometimes’
Ohhhh
Omg I’m freaking out ... the bot answered what the emote was before I discovered it and come on to say ..... please tell me their is someone behind the bot because that is true spooky stuff
I gotta screen shot it
thhe mods and shepherdds gavve skybott guideliness but skybott just kinda doess theirr own thing within those guidellines. nobody controlling it besides feeding new jokes to skybott
Have got the evidence that the bot knew what I was going on about before I did ... that is truly remarkable 🤍
Posting on screenshots
thought we were feeding krills to skybot
mmm, good morning. 
how's testing going? any new interesting bugs? 
i onlly got on longg enoughh to get an uuber for dailly quests
Night night everyone 😘
Occasionally frozen controls which goes away if i open not in game screenrecorder and server splits randomly. Other than that I haven’t found anything.
Good night Samuel
hows everybody? i havent been on beta for a hot while 
i cannt play sky by mysellf
butt i found a bruush stabilizer tooll to draaw at least
May I ask why your hands are shaking? I noticed your messages changed and I've been wondering if you're okay 
brush stabilizer is my best friend. except when i'm colouring and forget to turn it off and it leaves holes that i have to fix 
ii dont evven know
sttarted like 2 dayys ago. was playinng sky and brainn got foggy. typos were straiight up gibberish that day. migght be relatted to the causse behind my photossensitvty
butt not a betaa topic so letts not drag thaat converrsation out 
as you can see ive been having way too much fun with nitro

I'm taking a break from beta for a week, but I'm ready to get back to testing tomorrow 
Nothing new since the start of this month, right?

skybot why
wait whys skybots pfp like that what does it mean 
Skybot no please, I'm just an innocent tester—!
Skybot Be like: Taking a break? From beta? Unacceptable, where are the mods !! 
(Obviously don’t listen to skybot there’s been nothing new yea
)
wonder what the full image is
its a gif actually
wait what
oooh so thats what it is 
you can still oob too make the screen purrple haze like that 
Do you think bots can think?
yess
Fire trial hype, coming to Live soon

Popcorn out 
And ready to uber 
Yeah, I'll be interested to see how my friend groups go

i'm getting mentally prepared to guide my friend through fire trial via voice call oh boy-

i haventt done air on liive. kinda cant riight now 
Uh oh, I hope to VC with my friends some more after exams
Fire trial will be chaos in that call 
Aww, hopefully soon Kai 
i got an uuber for dailies at lleast
the fun part is, i never got a lot of experience with the fire trial like the other ones because i was not expecting to get thrown into google limbo. which means i have no idea which way to go. which means a lot of pain fun 
iive done fire like a hundred ttimes and still get lost 
oh no, i forgot to practice fire trial. this is gonna be a ride for sure
finally tried fire trial with a friend again last night -- it really is easy mode when you're not going solo 
Fire trial discussion starts and the most common reaction becomes
pFIRE

itss a fun emotte!
the ironic thing is that there really isn't enough fire in the trial to actually do that
We'll just have to bring our own fire 
I think fire trial is more about keeping your fire alive. The smoke suffocates you.
Low key creeps me out. I don't want to send my kiddo in there.
I'll take them with friends. 
oh thinking about it like that, the smoke quite literally snuffs your light out
dust bunnies hug a little too hard
Yeah, you can't breathe in there.
Not well anyway. Does raise the question of how more fire helps protect you when really it should just use up what little oxygen is left. Perhaps its cold and poor quality air.
oh now i feel guilty for sending my poor betakid alone in there
That was the problem I was having
We really put our skykids through a lot when you think about it. That's just my take anyway.
my poorr skykidd bonkss into evverythingg
I was more worried about Eden, wasteland and this fire trial myself 
I must say I love its scary aesthetic though, I think they've got a really good theme going for it.
Good, let my betakid suffer
noooo, not the beta kids. 
oh tgc nailed the aesthetic, i was scared of fire trial for awhile 
The amount of times my skykids face meets a wall is an unhealthily high number 🥺
or a krill while in wasteland 
Hello
hi! this is the beta chhannel where we ttest new conntent before it goess live and there’s a llot of spoillers here. headd on over to #general-sky-discussion to talk aboutt the live version of the game and #questions-and-help if you have anyy questions 
I’ve got a question relating to the beta game, would I ask that here or in the questions chat?
You can ask here if it’s beta related 
Okiedokie! ^^ So there’s an app called Testflight, which is what the beta game’s played on, right? I understand that I won’t be able to play it right now but I wanna have the app downloaded ahead of time so I can be ready when invites are sent out. I can’t really find the app though (:0 Is it not on the store right now? (I’m on iOS)
testflight's on the appstore as i'm checking right now; minimum requirement of iOS 8, which you should be well clear of if you're able to run Sky
I can find it in my App Store and I’m iOS as well so something must be wrong 
Huh, weird..
Let me check again, maybe I typed it in wrong?
TestFlight yes in App Store ... but you can’t test sky beta as invites have not gone out oh sorry my bad I didn’t read right
I know ^^ I just wanna be ready!
it's "testflight" as one word; if it's not showing up in the AppStore for you, you can try googling it from Safari and then opening the link in the AppStore to see if it's returning a "app not available in your region" error (which seems unlikely)
Let me look for you if it’s their for me .. brb
Yep TestFlight is stilll in App Store of course
Oh wait I think I found it! I thought it had that blue picture of the two skykids, lol. Thank you guys so much!!
Nope the picture of the skykids is the beta app! TestFlight is just a fan 
Hope you get in when the beta invite waves come
ah, Testflight isn't an app specifically for Sky or TGC; it's a platform from which developers can run beta tests on their iOS apps, so much more than just Sky can be run from it
Well, I had no idea!! Thanks again, and I’ll sure try to make it when invites are out! X) Best wishes!
Re: screenshot channel
No I really didn’t, I thought you were referring to the salute emote skybot put up as the gratitude one you were asking for, which I didn’t think the server had as an emoji, so I asked ? I definetly could have worded this better thou, sorry about that
I’m ending this here
hi yall how are u guys?
deciding whether i want to make two trips to eden in one day on the next reset right now 
though probably wiser to split live and beta eden trips over different days so the WL runs aren't also being done on the same day too 
Oof. I hear you spearmonkey. That’s smart! I get confused between live and beta sometimes, ngl. 
hey- not a beta player but I tried asking in #questions-and-help and realized i can't ask about beta there
Is there an in-game translator function being tested in beta? I have heard there is
translator now works kinda weird 
the button doesn't work if I open up the message history, but it does work with single messages.
yeah, there is one, was typing this when you asked 
oh haha what a coincidence
what's it like? is it good quality?
it's decent. kinda wonky at times, as you can see by my comment 
When I tried it with a new friend I met it was not perfect quality but I could still easily understand what they were saying overall. Its been in testing for a while, but as far as I know still has no estimated arrival time in live (there's still bugs here and there getting patched for it)
okay cool! thanks guys. I hope it goes live soon!
the dev team has been working on making the translations better for individual languages, so hopefully it'll go to live soon. but it's kinda hard to hit the button right
I really like the translator being there. Most of the time it does a good job even tho it’s not all the time accurate. But it really does help keep the conversation going. I tried Russian English translation with a friend and it worked pretty well already. I definitely like it
i like the translator too, even though it doesn't always activate right. my biggest concern is that the other side doesn't know how to use it, so it gets confusing at times, especially when it decides to bug out. hopefully those bugs get patched soon
Yes it was really confusing for me at first until my friend taught me to open message history and long tap on the message to activate the translator button. But once you know how to do it it’s a breeze
i tried doing that today, and it just wouldn't activate 
don't know why since i've always been able to do it using the history
Haven’t used it in a while but I’ll try to check it out too when I log on today
Might go get smashed a bit in Eden before reset lol
i'm probably gonna go sleep now. feel free to ping me if you find anything interesting so I can look at it tomorrow! Goodnight! 
Nite nite Aeras
sweet dreams
Goodnight

I still not got the last ts wing from Eden ... I won’t have 150 tomorrow if I don’t go... it’s Inevitable - I have to go 😳
Which means I’ll have to do all the trials to get my wings tomorrow ... 😂
have a nice sleep aeras! 
Ditto! @desert mango I got to do the same too!😳😱😬🙄🤪😂
Want to go with me today to Eden then the trials ? 🤭🤒🤍
I don’t specially do trials for WL unless I wanna test them. I’m way too far from 150 WL on beta anyways. Do you guys wanna do Eden together btw?
Sure @desert mango look forward to it!
hey hey hey guyss, what does 11 wedges look like?
/iirc we havent got the new design implemented yet

11 wedges will show up for the UI and you will get 11 flaps but the 3D cape design is still in the works, not to worry it will come soon™️
refer to the post in #beta-known-issues
Its the most recent post but here's a link to it too: #beta-known-issues message
Omg our request for light quest was answered ... amazing .. tgc must read this channel as a coincidence I think not ..... so happy we get to get the red light ... where shall I go .. ark to get it or shipwreck ... I shall get it from shipwreck today ... yay
wait, something happened with the light quests?
They weren't used for a very long time and we were randomly talking about them here, then the next day they popped back into the quests.
might just be a coincidence
yeah, it's a coincidence
of course, but it's a fun one!
ye
about lights returning to quests
me= did you do it?
beta channel= yes
me= what did it cost?
beta channel= meditation quests
that's right we haven't got a meditation quest for 4 days in a row 
I'm relieved, because I do n't want to have to try and find a new unique reply to the same question again and again.
i wonder if community submitted meditation questions could become a thing
we need new questions, or switch up the order of them in the realms atleast
re "community submitted meditation questions": they might be able to take some suggestions from us in a dedicated survey and then decide which ones to implement, but i don't think it'd be feasible to continuously accept and implement new ones when they'd have to ensure the questions work across languages and cultures -- they'd probably have to manually check and translate each one to be sure they work
:v I write only the first random thing it came to my mind since I read this in the meditation link support:
A writing prompt is often included to give you some direction for your message, but you may ultimately write whatever you like.
devss do read thiis channel thouggh when they caan 
Thank you
whyy tell me to sleep itss morning 
Sleep again kai
oh boy yall are definitely going to tell me to sleep..
It currently still has no plans to go to live iirc
Ohh okay
its jusst one possible sollution they have to playyers complaining abouut grindiing for TS. itll likeely go throughh some changges as they get feedbacck on it
That feature is in very early testing and while they are looking for feedback it will not be coming to live any time soon nor in its current form of high candle prices and still AP locked. 
Wow okay thanks 🙏
So in beta they are same high candle prices and AP locked?
yeahh the pricces havennt been adjustted yet for TS butt the ap loccked items are suppsoed to be free with ap from my understtanding
they never said that the items were gonna be free I think... just a discount had been mentioned for now
Question: how hard is the trial of fire on a scale from 1 to 10?
Question: how hard is the trial of fire on a scale from 1 to 10?
Around 7-8
3-4
difficulty drops significantly once you've been a few times and gotten used to it, but guessing most people will say the initial visit is around a 6-8
2 with friends and 6 alone? idk how to rate the alone one since I already know the path and it's really easy for me
5
I’d say, if it’s your first time: solo 8, with friends maybe 5. If you do know the path, solo 5 and with friends 2 max, it’s really easy 
everyone rushes on release day, so it might not be too difficult
🍿 🍿 prepares popcorn for beta players
It would be fun chaos with 8 random players in same server
I somehow always got so (un)lucky during the first day of the trials in live that I always had the entire trial for myself haha (well, and a friend I took with me). Except for the earth trial iirc!
It’ll be fun to watch my non beta friends go through the trial for the first time, can’t wait aaaa 
I'm gonna wait a few days when the rush is over, might try to practice in beta too
I would too, but... I want to witness the chaos

Yes, no Anubis mask this time
hi. i would like to participate in beta. may i ask the requirements?
TYVM~
!whatsnewinbeta
Improvements.
Is there a limit to the player's height? Do some people never get tall?
I saw in a forum that the initial players randomly assigned a "scale". Some players assigned a value that was too small, which would affect their later body shape changes. In terms of pictures circulating on the Internet, they could never reach the No.1 height and No.0 height. Is this true?
Beta players know nothing about that. Only people who can unpack the game know exactly.
Of course, of course, I just want to verify that if it is true, it will become less meaningful for many players to sacrifice in Eden every week
I just meant it's probably meaningless to ask in this channel
Because I go to Eden to sacrifice every week, but my height has not changed. Online customer service and civil servants have slowly come to this conclusion. What I want to say is that if it is true, please don't limit the height of each player.😭
@pearl roost your height doesn't change by going to eden? You use resize spells
I can just tell you that I have gone through extremely small height to very tall height using resize spells, it just depends on your luck
Also, there is currently a bug with the spells not working. You have to restart your game to see a change
@pearl roost your height doesn't change by going to eden? You use resize spells
@slim kayak Of course, I know. I said that the potion has always been the highest on the 2 nd. It is not the problem that you have to restart the game to see this time. Is it that you use so many telescopic potions or on the 2 nd
The highest height is No.2, and I have never been to No.1 and No.0.
Scale is a thing, but it makes such a tiny difference that you probably won’t even notice it has an effect on us (ktjn talked about this let me quote it real quick)
Resize spells are random. But the height change should be visible. So if you are already short, chances are that you'll get taller.
Also, there are about 4000 different sizes. As giccix said, its a scale. Perhaps you've been unlucky
the range of possibilities in scale is incredibly trivial. it's not worth having a re-scale potion, would only result in angry posts about it not working.
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What's the probability? I used more than 200 potions, but I haven't seen No.1.
They mean someone found there're limitations of what size a child can be by using potion in codes.
Just because they found 'scale' and don't believe it affects little.
Well if this has to do with looking at things in the code that’s sadly where this convo ends, we cannot discuss that
It's a pity. I just want the official to answer whether it is true or not. After all,😭
After all, it's too much trouble to find the wings again every week
There really isn't an official answer. There are fan made size charts, and even a website that tells you your height and the probability of getting taller or shorter, but other than the information we already know, we can't exactly help you. Sorry.
If it’s possible to reach no.1 height? Yes it is! But it’s a very, very tiny chance that you would get it because it’s one height out of 4000 
You could probably get close though! If you've used 200 potions already, you've probably gotten close already
I like this game, but I also like higher height. I feel sorry that I can't reach height 1 and height I feel sorry for the height of No.0😔
No, I have a hunch that I will never reach these two heights, which is very desperate
You’ll get it eventually, my first resize potion waaay back in lightseekers made me almost max height, then I took another potion sometime in November, and it took me from then to March of this year to reach a similar height again
some people are luckier tho, I hope you can get the height you want soon 
Thank you. I'll look at my own height in January next year. If the highest one is still No.2, the online rumors may be true
Thank you for your answers
Just use chibi and tiny spell it’s so cute
For starters, there are no limiters on an individual player's height. If you've never managed to achieve 2.0, it's a matter of unfortunate randomness. The difference that scale makes to overall size of your skykid is fairly trivial, it's less than the difference between one number and the next on that player-made height guide that uses the 1-14 format. With the existence of 4000 different heights that can be achieved with the use of the Resize Potion, the chance of getting it is 0.025% per use. That chance does not increase per Potion used, there is no "bad luck protection" with increased use. You aren't going to magically get the height you desire in January. There is a livestream interview with Jenova (i think #5) on the TGC YouTube channel where he explains our desired goals around player height. Resize potions were not meant to be a means to achieve a specific height, they're supposed to be a fun thing to use periodically, it is intentional that we do not have a feature to accomplish this. The compromise to player demands was adding the ability to consistently obtain more potions from the spell shop. Though access is limited (can only buy a set number at a given time) and is further limited by obtaining with an in-game currency that cannot be obtained by spending money and has a hard cap to the amount obtained per week to prevent abuse. We genuinely listen to the community and try to make compromises that still uphold our design goals while giving players options.
is it bad i found a height i liked by channce and have like 20+ resize potiions collecting dust right now? 
I used 3 resize potions and I've stayed at the height i got since release so... no kai, I also have about 15 potions sitting there 
When the resize potions came out, I didn't know you could get so small by using them, so the very first potion I drank made me super small and I just burst out laughing!
I haven't drank another potion since then and I have around 23 of them now
I have 24 on live and 10 on beta 
I have 16 in live, and 20 in beta. 
you been on beta like 4 months longerr than me though 
Wouldn’t the ‘changes by at least ±0.8 each resize’ affect the chance, though, with the added randomness of the amount of the change of the height value?
Thus wouldn’t the 0.025% be incorrect?
I've never used resize potion both in beta and in live. And in both server, I was wearing chibi mask when updating, which made me a buggy chibi size. Then in following updates, I was automatically switched to 13.
For a person whose scale value is negative, it is basically impossible for him to become the first two of the 14 heights defined by the player
I’m about +1.85 at the moment, and I often go around with a -1.7.
honestly the contrast is hilarious to me
When we say the highest, we don’t mean 1/4000,It is about 300/4000
Ye, I thought so
When the height value is higher, the influence of scale will increase. I am the one who has been reporting height problems.
If you think random scale is very interesting, please also give players the right to choose their own scale
When live begun, kids were born with random height. Players were not satisfied.
TGC added potion in constellations. Players were not satisfied.
TGC added potion in magical shop. Players are not satisfied.
But I feel it's reasonable if players have different scales each time rebirthing...
Though I disapprove of the calling.
A great suggestion
But then you can't control it, what if you want to do an eden run but don't want to change heights?
different scale each time rebirthing
This will not be a big problem, people who care about height will go to Eden, and those who don't care about height will not even see the difference
they removed that feature a long time ago
aren't scale and height two separate things
yes, Scale is another thing, but it affects how high it looks to a certain extent
i feel like this is better suited to go in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
but the devs had reasons to make player height work the way it does with the randomness and not being able to choose, as stated by ktjn earlier.
of course, anything is subject to change in the future 
I don't think size changes should be forced on the players, they might only want the ascended candles and no size changes
There is no other source of ascended candles in the game rn
For a person whose scale value is negative, it is basically impossible for him to become the first two of the 14 heights defined by the player
wdym is basically impossible?
When his height is close to +2.000, he is significantly lower than another person with a large scale
there aren't 14 heights. there are 4000, on a scale from -2.000 to 2.000.
it's highly unlikely, yes, since there is supposed to be a significant visual difference in height when you use a potion
how you know that two persons are closer to +2.0 ? the only way you know two players are close to +2.0 is if they both look around the same height 
the 14 height chart was fanmade and the devs have confirmed that it was inaccurate. They removed that pin and replaced it with the official height spectrum in the pins of #questions-and-help
The 14 heights defined by the player are enough to roughly distinguish heights. When we say the tallest, it does not mean 1/
How do you know that it is close to +2.000, it is not suitable to say here
so why are u even debating this here?
again, scale has such a minimal effect that its not worth the trouble
Because this is a potential problem, it does not mean that it is not a problem, it is a question of fairness
fairness? i'm not sure i'm following.
if you're talking about something you can't explain like how you know when 2 players are close to +2.0 and they are shown as very different height in game then it's unnecessary to start the debate in the first place, rng will never be fair anyways
So is it reasonable to randomly give the player a scale value when the account is created? Since there are already 4000 heights?
why not? why you care so much in your height?
there are 4000 heights on a scale from -2 to +2. I'm not sure what the issue is?
It's meaningless if you ask why not
when a new account is made, the skykid won't be in the extremes, or close to -2 or +2. they'll be in a small range in the middle. some will be slightly taller or shorter than other new skykids, but there is no way for a brand new skykid to be super tall or short, if that's what you meant
Account Creation
Given height ranges from -0.500 up to +0.500. Can be permanently modified with Resize Potions.
Given scale ranges from -0.1 up to +0.1. Cannot be permanently altered at this time.
that's what I meant. because the actual difference is so small, most players starting out won't even notice the difference until they use a resize potion for the first time. i'm still a bit confused as to what you are trying to say? 
Please, here is a channel named beta general discussion. If you want to suggest something, #wishlist-and-ideas-archived may be a better choice.
In fact, the gap is not small, more than 1/14 height defined by the player
Thank you, I won’t say more
no, i meant that the gap when you start out is small. but yes, we should probably move on to beta topics. if you want, leave your suggestion in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
anyways, fire trial tomorrow 
ah yes, fire trial coming tomorrow. 
excited for the livekid reactions
Let’s prepare to help our Live friends!
I feel they're lucky when thinking of what I've experienced the first time I went by myself.
people got so mad at air, who knows how they'll react to fire 
i'm getting mentally ready to uber some strangers tomorrow
i'm just mentally preparing for guiding my friend through fire via vc since i can't actually be there. i don't even know the route 
that'll be a lot of pain fun 
I don’t feel confident about the route either, but it’s no longer super confusing at least.
level 3 is a maze with dead ends, and no candle bunches to mark safe spots. that'll be fun for your friend kai
I'll get around to drawing a map for the trial someday...
Maybe not today tho
oh dear hopefully they like pain and mazes 
i'm sure there are people with a map ready for tomorrow too, but no one has posted one because we were asked not to
Makes sense, I'd like to see them though. The more references to work from, the better
soon™️
went thru fire a few days ago with a friend
it wasnt as infuriating as air (for me anyway), but my friend did say they wanted to throw their phone bc they kept dying (it was their first time finishing it)
I think a lot of the fun is going in blind 
was that a pun
false advertising
True, I just people can contain their frustrations. Remember what happened with the air trial? >_>
oof yeah
honestly can't imagine what the feedback will be like for fire trial
they made both air and fire easier though. but live players won't get to know just how hard it was before 
I still need to do air on live so I won't be ubering anyone
I might actually need an uber myself because I still can't control my skykidd without bonking into literally everything
I might be able to help you at some point.
I just wanted my seasonal heart... 
I'm not gonna be of any use to anyone in Live tomorrow. I had to go with a friend to make it through Fire. I've tried it solo since and I just get really disoriented.
Fire trial isn’t out tomorrow ..... right?

is out in 13 hours 
i practiced every trial except fire to lower the time i spent doing them (because i was going to uber people but now i can't.) and then my friend who barely knows how seasons work smashes my records first try like it was nothing. 
(except water, she kept dying on water.)
I actually prefer fire when it’s at the peak of difficulty with no clear routes, far apart white candles and terrible smoke that requires you to have a rule on how many candles you can run through with your friend before having to sit down for all the smoke
EDIT: oh no fire trial is out TOMORROW??? Oh well time to gather my buff moths hehe
Everyone will be fine in fire tomorrow .. it’s not as hard as it used to be and if you go with friends it’s much easier ,theirs plenty of help out their ... just remember to believe in yourself and keep calm ... I’m happy to help anyone who genuinely needs it ...
I didn't even do the fire trial in beta
I don't know anything about it, I just heard that it's difficult, so tomorrow i think i will have a lot of fun, since the other trials were very easy for me
the first three trials are kinda just luck and skill, but the trial of fire takes patience
Aw yeah time to bring our friends to Sky Hell tomorrow 🗿🗿
@slim kayak oh right Aeras so I tested the in-game translator again it works fine for me with message history. With single messages the button respond really slowly I have to click multiple times and it would open message history each time I click on translator (or maybe I just have huge finger and can’t click on the right spot lmao
thanks! maybe my fingers are too big too
glad to see it's working on your end. i'll have to take another look at it later then
it's a bit strange, since single messages worked while the history didn't for me
maybe the button just doesn't register sometimes
someone have a photo of the 11 wedge?
@spark lance 11 wedges aren’t on the capes yet, only the UI 
oh :((
Good Morning from Singapore to all of you 
Everyone excited to helping our Live friends on The Trial Of Fire?

I didn't manage to finish it 😂
I'm gonna wait a few days so it's not as easy from the rush
but I'm definitely excited
I still need to do air on live
I kinda was lazy and then when I did want to do it I couldn't.
I'm playing again after taking a break for a week...
I entered Wasteland - immediate flickering glitch, and trying to fix it crashed the game 
...At least I have a bug report to submit immediately after my long break... 
oh that flickering glitch is a big problem
I'm pretty sure I only have 25 candles in beta, I really slacked collecting this season after I finished 
I need an uber for dailies if I want candle
but looking for group channel be like crickets
The season in beta is ending, y'all know what that means.
Well I'll have no candle.
Same
Too busy irl and focusing on sky live makimg me forgot that I'm a beta tester

@random gull I'm not sure when you're usually online, but if you need an uber and I'm on, you can always join me 
For starters, there are no limiters on an individual player's height. If you've never managed to achieve 2.0, it's a matter of unfortunate randomness. The difference that scale makes to overall size of your skykid is fairly trivial, it's less than the difference between one number and the next on that player-made height guide that uses the 1-14 format. With the existence of 4000 different heights that can be achieved with the use of the Resize Potion, the chance of getting it is 0.025% per use. That chance does not increase per Potion used, there is no "bad luck protection" with increased use. You aren't going to magically get the height you desire in January. There is a livestream interview with Jenova (i think #5) on the TGC YouTube channel where he explains our desired goals around player height. Resize potions were not meant to be a means to achieve a specific height, they're supposed to be a fun thing to use periodically, it is intentional that we do not have a feature to accomplish this. The compromise to player demands was adding the ability to consistently obtain more potions from the spell shop. Though access is limited (can only buy a set number at a given time) and is further limited by obtaining with an in-game currency that cannot be obtained by spending money and has a hard cap to the amount obtained per week to prevent abuse. We genuinely listen to the community and try to make compromises that still uphold our design goals while giving players options.
@vapid briar Can you buy three sublimation candles at a time and buy them five times a day like Chinese servers?
random times. spearmonkey rescued me from crabs because I tried to go by myself.
omg please don't quote long blocks of text and ping the devs 
7 days to go for beta...
7 days and then tons of people will drop beta for live until the next wave 
My friend constellations are already looking remarkably dead 
I'm trying to be on daily
and getting yelled at in dms for getting on because I have no sense of danger
The 1 month-ish gap is when barely anyone plays. I'm expecting something to test though, like an event. Thats when everyone rushes back
I've been pretty dead in beta because its exam times but planning on making a strong return after ^^
...Kai, if you're on daily, can I friend you? 
I need at least one friend to show signs of being alive 
sure. dm me qr
I found three bugs within the space of an hour, so looks like it's time to report those 
beta's crowd is pretty interesting actually: it's very easy to stay alone if you go in alone and try to do so, but once you've managed to add someone from the chatty discord network here, you'll keep running into 6-8 player rooms 
except when I need help them like zero of my friends are online 
...Oh, interesting 
My experience of beta has been very empty (except for the occasional Chinese veteran who has like 200 friends) so that'd be something to see
hang around me (or pakka) long enough and you'll have 30 new friends
ask spear
can confirm: warped to kai once, ended the day with like 5+ new friends
only reason it wasn't more was because some of the peeps i ran into were already peeps i met before
Hey, as long as they're active, I'm happy 
pakka does beta cr like every day. I'm never on at the right time and the rare times I am, I get told to go back to sleep 
i actually do beta crs every day as well, but my timing varies all over the place because of how i juggle live and beta (start after reset with beta quest realm, then fully finish live, then come back to beta in the same night/the next morning)
i can definitely see why ubering is a thing in the community when you're running both versions, the time sink for double cr runs is pretty insane 
I just never cr. I do dailies and then goof off for 6 hours
I was on beta and live, 1 hour each, but things got busier and I had to cut it down to beta only. I can't imagine how the people who do full candle runs for both versions get by 
Pakka took me on a wasteland cr earlier 
And then I used those candles to unlock hug
(and fist bump and warp)
Ah yes, the best way to spend candles: unlocking every friendship emote possible 
I mean it’s beta it’s not going to any constellations so 
if short on time, what i'd usually suggest is to do beta dailies and seasonal candle bunches (lots of candles in a really short amount of time), then spend rest of time on live -- good candle gain for limited time
i'm currently trying to save up candles in beta for the double hearts event, but i just don't have anywhere near enough for the number of beta friends in my constellation 
Before I dropped live, I did quests and a candle run in the quest realm on both versions. Then if I had time, I'd do the candle cluster realm too.
I heard something about a double heart event... Is that currently in live? 
not yet, no -- they said there'd be one this month, but no exact date announced yet
@hollow cloak relevant patch note mentioning it: https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?s=patch-notes&f=patch-notes---november-2-2020---0-11-2-156351
It's almost time, I will finally be rich in beta again
(and then I'll spend all my candles on friends and be broke again
)
Ah okay, I was worried I was missing it. Maybe that'll be a good time to drop in and say hi to my live friends again 
lyze your nickname 
it might not be a bad time to drop in on them a few hours later, just to see them screaming about fire trial 
I absolutely would, but this week is extremely busy 
I would LOVE to do Fire Trial with my live friends though 
Back to the inviting days, beta was so crowded and lively...
Question: what was the last time you met Oreo in beta?
lyze your nickname :AnoobisWHEEZE:
@random gull 👁️ 👐 forfeit your names and do not refer to meeee 👀 (for legal reasons I’m just having a name crisis)
sang: literally like last week
we were bored on a cr and there were 8 of us all friends
I have never met Oreo on beta 
I kid you not, the only people I see on beta are the fake moths who dash through the spirits and disconnect halfway through the map because they're already gone 
The people I've gotten to actually talk to are usually pretty nice, though
I usually run into a bunch of hackers ..or genuine (but illegitimate) moths 
Or afk Kai... 
we're not supposed to discuss the illegitimate folk, but yes, those too
oh lol amber found me sleeping too
at this point who hasn't found me sleeping in sky?
I'm ready to see this 
I’ve found you like that several times xD
add me on live too then. I tend to fall asleep with that open more than beta cuz more friends
I would, but... I'm not on live anymore 
Why would you trade in live for beta if you can’t do both...?
I always loved that if you can do the 8 player puzzle in beta, everyone always stays for Oreo.
In live everyone always leaves, it's so sad 
Because I can test new features and submit bug reports! I weighed the costs, and I felt like if I had to choose one, playing beta is more helpful to TGC. 
people actually stay for oreo in beta?
Yes! Or at least, they have every time I've managed to do it
Right, Dragon? The one time I did 8-player, everyone dashed for the exit 
It's even long since I last time entered that gate
last time i did 8-player in beta everyone left. 
Oh.
Maybe I've just gotten lucky every time I did it then (which is admittedly not that many times)
i got merged into instances of people waiting around for oreo in live, i'd suspect it's actually easier on live than it is beta?
Probably... The room is usually empty on beta, so people don't bother waiting like in live
i remember the first week in beta before the start of a new season. no one's there
but everyone was here hahaha
@odd ether hi , hope your day is good , very much looking forward to helping those in need today ...😘😘😘
Morning peoples ...have a good day ... good luck too 🤍🕊️🤍
hope you find peace in the clouds. may you be higher than yesterday. fly like those mantas, as free as the sun shining in the field of butterflies.
Omgooooooooooood ..... all my pins are on their way woooooooooot ..... yeshhhh ... awesome day already ... 😭🤒🤭
just wondering, where/how do I buy the capeless cape in Beta? i'm at Eden rn, uheueaie
The vault constellation for 999 hearts After you got elder gift though from vault in Eden
Ahhh, thanks
My pins are on a vessel 🚢 ... 😂 awesome ..
Strange I thought they would be delivered by krill

Hahah 🙂 🙈 omg ... I can actually picture looking through my door spy hole and seeing a krills eye .... like that scene in Jurassic park when they see t-rex out window
I can just imagine a krill busing into someone's house with a box of pins in their "mouth"
and then he will say "face the trial before I can grant you this pin"
1 trial = 1 pin
😂😂😂
You go to take your pins from the krill and the red light goes off , you grab the nearest light source and bait throw it , then realise light bulbs don’t work when unscrewed ...smashhh.!!not smart under pressure 😂 so you just take one for the team 😂
Or I look through the door spy hole and no one is their , so I open the door and theirs a crab with red eyes with a stack of parcels tied to its bAck 😂
Someone walks passed and coughs and prematurely makes the crab flip and mess my pins up
or the game crashes again
Their on the way , that’s the main thing ,when I see the postman I will probably laugh now
the lore people will be so happy today after the fire trial
lore channel will literally implode
that's is true. I remember finishing the fire trial. mindblown
just wondering, where/how do I buy the capeless cape in Beta? i'm at Eden rn, uheueaie
@maiden minnow
I wanted to ask the same for a couple of weeks but always forget to. 😅
Thanks!
Yeah you now have to finish the entire vault constellation to get that
slowmo check
Yeah you now have to finish the entire vault constellation to get that
@ionic breach does it cost the same?
Yep!
No there aren't any plans to bring it to live any time soon.
so you'd need to spend 1154 hearts to get capeless. i'm not sure if anyone's willing to put that much time into beta
You would be surprised
Many of my friends want it and working for it. 
if people are determined to achieve what they want, they will work for it even if it takes the entire vault constellation and an additional 999 hearts 
(i myself don't find too much interest in invisicape but good luck to those who are trying to get it)
that really is surprising! hm but it'd be a shame if one of them didn't make it into the next beta wave.. hope all your friends could pull it off together
Is 11th wedge in beta
i think someone has it.
How does it look like
it doesn't have a design yet, refer to the most recent post in #beta-known-issues
yes. i remember so many people posting fan art they have to clarify it
the start button of beta sometime doesn't work
When’s the next beta test going to start
Do you mean update? Testing is ongoing over the whole beta period. Updates come semi regularly, depending on new things being implemented and bugs getting fixed but they wont be as often now that pretty much all of prophecy has hit live servers.
Mountain if you mean beta invite waves they probably will go out a lil bit before the season ends. check #beta-faq and #beta-signup-info for more info
!betainvites
Edit: nope not how you do that XD
Edit 2: Upon looking in the search bar its basically what Emma already said so no more information anyway 
the previous beta wave ran for just under 3 months from what's visible, we've only just crossed the 2 month mark for this one (though the previous wave also isn't a guarantee of how long this one would last either)
I loved the new ending to fire trial .. wow awesome
Yeah I like it too Samuel. I tried to record through in-game recorder but the recorder bugged and I didn’t get to save the video 😔
I tried to do air trial in beta. Never finished it. Since when we have wind there... Also is it ok to ask for popular shortcuts here?
I don’t think Trial of Air has major shortcuts. Only the last part u can kinda bypass the three blow jumps and aim for the finish statue directly, but again it’s a small slot and takes a lot of luck
I remember @/darkness#0490 found a small shortcut that skips few moving platforms. I used it
Yes, dark has tons of Air Trial skips. Honestly, I went and just searched for them on the beta-screenshots channel for anything with a video file, and they found a bunch of really interesting shortcuts
wow! i'm cool now!
Nah.
Ok, a bit. 
you were always cool imo, dark 
Honestly, I went and just searched for them on the beta-screenshots channel for anything with a video file, and they found a bunch of really interesting shortcuts
@hollow cloak same
okay okay, enough of that, haha
i also posted shortcuts in #seasons-events-chat, you should generally search for videos under my name, not a specific channel
Ohkay accepted
Oh right, I seem to remember finding videos in seasonal. Maybe I just forgot my actual search terms 
@gilded talon I recorded it .. I can send you a copy , I know it won’t have you in it .. but the offer is their
I really was Impressed , it satisfied me a lot and was unexpected, I can now leave the season very happy indeed that it ended like it did 🙂
you should generally search for videos under my name, not a specific channel
@/darkness#0490 just did that....so impressed
thank you! all i did was throw myself into the air for hours
The people who couldn't clear Air trual also threw themselves into the air for hours... Unintentionally 
I wish I could stay the whole morning to watch the other channels explode over fire trial, but oh well
I'll see where they're at later in the day 
so a bunch of my friends who aren't on beta are talking about fire trial in a private chat and I can't stop laughing
we really are just so used to it it seems easy to us and live players are struggling. I wanna help but man I'm useless on sky rn
Oh I've gotten used to fire trial a bit too much at this point
I smacked into the gate trying to go into vault on my own for dailies this morning. like i couldn't even go through the gate properly. my skykid is just like why
yeah, knowledge really dials down the perceived difficulty of the fire trial; your friends don't know the timing of the wisps nor really have a sense of direction at all right now most likely
the live guys are probably getting a completely different experience than what we got going through all the iterations of the fire trial after the first blockier version
i remember when candles were red and there were no walls
and you could solo it easily
technically you can still solo it fairly easily but only if you know the candle and shadow patterns 
Those were the days, and the time I was absolutely terrified of the trial even though it was a cake walk 
now it's just like: grab a friend and walk past everything without lighting a thing
all my frens on live ver hv difficulty finishing fire, even stuck there for 1hr. i am grateful for the update. its easier for those who hv played it in beta. so we can help frens now
i wonder what the live peeps would've thought if they saw any of us just running off into the darkness in a handhold/piggyback without lighting anything 
i wanna make a piggyback totem on live now
beta you never really merged with strangers for people to see my shenanigans
one of my beta friends revisited it one or two days ago after she only went for the very first version of the fire trial, and she also took about 30-40 minutes treading cautiously -- it's definitely a lot faster when you're confident
I just don't have enough motivation to go in there alone. I did it a few times alone when it was in it's hardest form i think (except piggy stack trick ) and that's all.
It's not really tempting to walk around in the dark and pet fluffies occasionally, i always liked water and air way more. (And the rotating rock in earth)
How are the incandescent-eyed-smoke-lorax-bois are named afterall
there isn't an official name for them as far as I know. most popular community names seem to be: worm on a string, fluffies, shadows, and dust bunnies
Oh and someone called them Whispers if i remember correctly
one of the mods called them soot sprites and I can't for the life of me remember who now 
Are they Krill whisperers? Because that's how some of spirits called
I believe that was Joshur... 
Joshur mentioned it here
#beta-discussion message
Soot sprites... Is it a reference to the way of pronouncing word "spirit"?
PFFFT vibe checkers 
Wait I didn't know the word soot before and those flying spiders perfectly fit its description...
Flying spiders?
you mean the dark owls?
Or loraxes. Idk. But there is nothing worse than a flying spider
I'm kinda sad now because fire trial going live means we don't have a whole lot of beta specific content to talk about until the invite waves mad rush in a few weeks unless we test an event 
beta only rn: portrait mode, invisi-cape, AP locked TS (but anyone can discuss that as long as the do so here), shepherd system. am I missing anything?
Random Bugs are evergreen topic 
Before that we need to survive the tsunami of questions from live players regarding when the invites will appear. Those were devastating times
there's the possibility of a christmas event repeat
that's something to look forward to and the weeks long of IAP price discussion
Hey @random gull, do you think people like me?
skybot
I mean a Christmas repeat might be the answer to the weird red fluffy cape I see around sometimes
Oop you know what to do
I mean report those
nothing's confirmed until further notice
oh man I had a solid like 4 day streak going with no skybot pings 
nothing is confirmed, true
How does one even get pinged by the bot...
Hopefully there is a repeat though, I want the santa hat 
idk skybot just likes me
like I get pinged at 4am my time sometimes
so basically how skybot works is they're fed some lines by the devs and mods and then they let skybot loose to do their own thing. and skybot be a lil gremlin sometimes 
the chosen one
I genuinely hate this 4th trial
I like it 
It wouldnt be so annoying if the monsters werent larger than life
i'm trying to see how badly i can break it 
there might actually be some spots you can pull earth trial antics and hop right on top of the walls -- there's just little opportunity to do it alone since you'd die so far away from the candles
they used to be less fluffy 
about the beta invites - i got in beta just by clicking upload button in google store - no invite link - is there some registration needed? I dont want to be swiped 
When an android testers leaves, a new tester can download and take their place
google seems to be letting people download as other google beta testers leave but from my understanding it's still not supposed to let people without access in and if you didn't get access through the invites (check the link in #beta-faq and see if it says if you are a tester) then you shouldn't be able to download even if someone leaves. you will have access wiped at the next access wipe either way so make sure you sign up for an invite again when that time comes
When in doubt, go left
@gilded talon I recorded it .. I can send you a copy , I know it won’t have you in it .. but the offer is their
@desert mango oh yes I’d love that thx Samuel
@gilded talon I’m about to post it on screenshots .. not beta ones .. give me a few 😘
I don’t think Trial of Air has major shortcuts.
@gilded talon
is this major enough? #seasons-events-chat message
Bruh has this been happening to you guys since i was hyped to get the anubis mask but this spirit did this to me - m - check the #beta-screenshots-videos
yes, it does that from time to time
Oh ok i used a chibi spell to get through
Shouldn’t matter. I glitched through many times and the spirit has always worked fine.
When the season ends on beta do you recon we’ll get some new content to test?
I’ve loved testing all the prophecy trials and stuff tho it’s been such a good beta first season
we can't really predict what the devs want us to test. could be next season or could be an event or could be UI changes. we never know until the update comes
Oooh I can’t wait!! I’m just so excited hehehe

one thing I can predict: invite wave chaos
gonna be a LOT of people asking questions that are already answered in the faqs so be prepared for a 5-15 minute slowmode for a while. highly suggest if you haven't already to get a beta invites ping role so you're notified when new invites come because access is revoked between seasons now and you need to sign back up every time
Thought I’d bust in to say goodnight , night night everyone ... take care , have a good daynight 🤍
have a good rest! 
most of the time spent in beta is waiting for new content and then once we do get them time passes super fast
Quick question- I remember Ktjn said the 11th wedge cape representations isn’t even in the game yet- is that still correct? Any pics of an 11th wedge cape stars are false?
yeah pics you see are photoshops. the UI is there (you can flap 11 times) but the design is still being worked on
That’s what I thought. Thanks!!
there is a "bug" that makes something different appear in the place where the level 11 cover design would be, but it only appears when you spend energy, then when you recover back to normal
it's a default design for a burned wedge after 5 wedges, you can make that appear with less than 11 wedges
the 11th wedge visual is still not implemented in the game yet, but have patience-it'll be there!
But it appeared right in the place where the 11th star should appear, and it was just spending 1 level ... But I know it's a bug
hi Ash 
Hello!
the team has been pulling a lot of weight with the development of prophecy and this upcoming season, so 11th wedge is using the time to get some extra beauty sleep before making their debut ✨
Filha do Bug check what I sent in #beta-screenshots-videos it's a burnt wedge with only 8 wedge, it's that design that get on top of the first wedge in the 11 wedge when it gets burnt (spend)
and prophecy has been legit amazing. I love beta testing and watching the designs as yall update and improve the game
throwback to the ikea mattress icebergs
(I give up on my typos omg)
The Air Trial redesign...

I'm honestly astonished at how quickly things went from Enchantment to Sanctuary to Prophecy, and all of it was amazing... I hope everyone at TGC gets a break after this season 
I know people will probably demand more content, but seriously, I can't imagine sustaining this much high-quality content for so long!
Im terrified of the power tgc holds while having less than 50(?) people in the team! Also it's 2:30 am
cinnamon pls go sleep 
Trial of fire on live was a piece of cake compared to beta, I guess they’ll truly never know 😂
Season going to end in beta in another 6 days ;-; goodbye season goodbye my beta memories
that number isn't to be trusted too much
could end suddenly tomorrow or find out we have more to test past 6 days.
Maybe too early to say this but anyone going to try for beta next time too?
Kai, I feel like they’ll push the new ui they’ve been working on for the emotes + the 11th wedge + the ts system updates
Im surprised we had such a long season 
Yap I plan to reapply
IKR! And it felt so full... even though we only had 4 spirits >< the season felt so full.. my fave one is still probably enchantment tho.. my mouth was wide open every time I went to ark for a new quest haha
Omg it feels so weird to think that in another 3 weeks the season will almost conclude in live and it’ll be time for the next beta rounds ... like whaaaa where did the time goooo??
I've been in beta since March so yeah I def plan to stay if I make it through the chaos 
Only thing that can tear me away from beta is is suddenly I did not have a sky compatible device anymore or if i died
Massive amount of respect for the devs... how they build a new season + existing prod bugs + new features with just 50 people and around 70 days for coding is beyond me... I can imagine they pull long nights working at the office ><
i plan to be here even though i'm in google limbo. i don't know if i should really re-enter though, i'd just take up a slot for someone who can actually play. 
@kindred fossil wooooow dark I didn’t know we can do that. I’m awed thx for sharing! 
super late, but I'm not sure if I'll reapply for beta. My schedule doesn't really allow much time for the live version of Sky, let alone beta testing. I'll probably lurk here, but I feel like the spot would probably be better off going toward someone who might be a more robust and active tester
You all asked for the season to be longer on beta so y'all had something to do on beta after the content goes live and we listened.
I like long seasons, I will have more than 300 Candles 
Finally I won't be poor anymore in beta :D
I lost like 250 legitimately got candles when they reset us after the sanctuary bug “fix” so these babies are gonna get spent. Waste elder hair here I come
Will we get the double heart event in beta when it comes in live?
So, is it possible to hv 150 wl in beta?
yep, i'm pretty sure it's also avaliable in live too though i'm not sure my brain is fried 
Yep got it in live 5 min ago 🙃
I’m not in the beta version of sky but I’m curious to know how many days left of the season do you guys have?
we have 6-ish days left. but of course, the devs could decide to end our season tomorrow so... 
Ohh okay thank you!
gosh. season is gonna be over already.
i still have 15 friends and some random people i added because the quest said to bow/Hi to a friend that is actually online. haha but I enjoyed it
not sure why you tagged me in that? or what you even mean by it
Not entirely sure if I’ll reapply for the next beta wave myself, but will very likely lurk in here either way in case I have weird antics to suggest 
I love beta testing (even if most of the bugs I find are flickering graphics
) so I'm definitely going to try and get in next wave 