beta-discussion

[oak berry]

wait so YOU were the person who was moving the bonfire around?

[kindred fossil]

ok, i don't feel much have changed with lvl1 & lvl3, but lvl2 feels less frustrating and went through with 0 zero deaths, it's the most i struggled with so i guess that's good
l'll compile serious feedback tomorrow

[random gull]

wait dragon is that u in home space rn??? air cape, moth hair, lantern

[oak berry]

yeah

[tiny umbra]

I've said it at least twice in this channel before but im just so relieved that its easier while also still being a challenge, I'd like the live in the fire trial now

[random gull]

the adventures of people finding me in game XD

I think I just got a lot easier to find. but hey now I wanna go do all the trials again

[tropic portal]

I would say the fire trial changes to the second phase are really good; you can actually kind of dodge the creatures now. In the third part it was very hard to progress and tell where to go; the creatures have really irregular and hard to track cycles and I ran into quite a few dead ends too.

[copper bison]

i never thought i would actually miss suffering in the fire trial to give feedback.
thanks google

[spark lance]

Hi guys, is there any update about 11 wedges symbol yet?

[vapid briar]

no

it'll be in a future patch some time after 150 stars is achievable.

[hidden quarry]

its time to try fire trial again i didnt touch it after playing it once

[spark lance]

There's a post in my community forum about the 11 wedges.. I will send the pictures in #beta-screenshots-videos

Since i read that the design hasn't been implemented yet right?

[finite meteor]

ktjn what happened to your pfp i

[kindred fossil]

F

[random gull]

Chia I’m about to go in if ya wanna not go it alone

[spark lance]

it'll be in a future patch some time after 150 stars is achievable.
Thank u ;-;

[vapid briar]

my pfp is extra spooky now <_<

[tiny umbra]

Did the beta channel order change?
Oh i see it now, android is gone

[vapid briar]

for android beta chat. it lived a good life

[oak berry]

android got smited

[tiny umbra]

wrong emoji react

[random gull]

did it get archived or deleted? I don’t see it in archived channels

[kindred fossil]

archived but hidden

[vapid briar]

it's been archived since june, it's now hidden

[copper bison]

f android beta chat, you will be missed

[tiny umbra]

Normally there's a space between looking for group and beta general, it's gonna be weird without it
edit: i cant spell

[random gull]

oooh ok. I was looking under the section labeled “Archives (read only)” 🤣

[tender oasis]

Beta friend invite codes are working now ?

[tiny umbra]

Ok i need to check that out, hand me your invite 👁️ 👋

[fresh quiver]

They were never not working? Or at least, the links always worked

[random gull]

the invites have always been working for me on android ios you had to open it in a browser and double tap or save a screenshot and upload it sometimes

[copper bison]

links always worked for me. at one point the picture qrs broke for me
android

[tiny umbra]

When clicking the link its fine, but when I click to join sky it doesn't give the prompt to name my friend or do anything. I would need to scan it manually

[late mountain]

Ooh, did you get a Dev bonfire for testing Kai? Does that mean Ktjn just has your game ID on hand

[random gull]

yeah I’ve submitted help requests in game and on discord using the same email so probably that

[late mountain]

probably Nah, only logical solution I can find is you’re famous amongst the devs too

[random gull]

Pfft oh man I wish.

[late mountain]

Don’t sell yourself short, a lot of us here know you, Ktjn included it would seem

[random gull]

tbh I don’t even know if my reputation is a good one but I stand out amongst the kais

[late mountain]

It’s a good one, trust me

[kindred fossil]

your reputation gud

[copper bison]

even with the chaos energy your reputation is definetely good

[random gull]

[late mountain]

I’d better be heading off for breakfast, will see you all later

[vapid briar]

About the 11th star images making the rounds... they're photoshopped/fan edits.

The finalized look is still in the concept phase and hasn't even been turned into a 3D model yet.

[random gull]

I can’t wait to see! I’m one TS away from 150 on live

[spark lance]

I can't wait to see the final result 🥺

I’m like 8 ts away from 150

[slim kayak]

Rip the android chat. Now we can't see the chaos that happened in there.
Actually, that's probably for the best

[runic path]

We will have 11th in live at Nov.12th. if everything on schedule right?

[lyric kite]

Some people will be able to get the 11th wedge in live once the fire trial becomes available, but the star won't show up on capes until the code for it is added to the game (which Ktjn said might be sometime later) since it's not finished yet

[copper bison]

i'm definetely far from 11th wing ledge
anyways i should probably go write my speech i got distracted again aaaa-

[random gull]

just finished the fire trial without piggyback for the first time in AGES 🤣 went in a group but we kinda walked around solo to see if we could do it and it actually went pretty fast. still enough dead ends and confusing candle paths to get me lost and still enough space between “safe” spots for it to be a challenge but it was not rage quit worthy. definitely like this update!

oops meant to feedback that but here works too. off to paste that in feedback channel

[kindred fossil]

oh lol, this looked like regular kai posting

[random gull]

Kaiposting

[analog citrus]

So we won’t even have the new 11 star look when it available in live in 10 days? That’s quite disappointing. I was looking forward to that. BIG milestone

[lyric kite]

It will still be cool once it is available! But I do feel like maybe there should be some sort of announcement about the delay if possible, a lot of people are really hyped about it and it would be disappointing to see a server meltdown or something when people realize they'll get the wedge but not the star (yet)...

[valid terrace]

apparently Skybot references the Case of the Missing Fireboi

live people will never get it

“Psst hey [name], I heard there's a prophet somewhere that's very shy, but you didn't hear it from me ”

[random gull]

yeah I spit out my tea the first time I saw skybot say that in gen chat and a whole bunch of people were like “huh” and I was laughing so hard

[vapid briar]

Yes, players will have the 11th charge, power-wise, but the cape pattern will come in a later patch.

[simple bobcat]

Omg the krill weasel mask pfp evolved

[random gull]

Just did air too! turns out the wind walls can yeet you to the top platform and then you get the death animation

[slim kayak]

i warped to kai while they were about to go in air, and the meditation spot was not there

[uneven moat]

[random gull]

it was just air and fire that got difficulty adjustments this update right?

[tender oasis]

The last skip is still possible in air trial however the one which brings you to the checkpoint which used to be the last before the statue is not. A current was removed from there.

[fresh quiver]

Well my hand hurts now, but air trial in one-handed mode (I've only ever used two-handed) was a success!

[random gull]

I didn’t try one handed mode I forgot

in my defense I”m still trying to process dev magic from earlier like did that actually happen or am I imagining things

[late mountain]

It really did happen Kai

[pine remnant]

ive never used two-handed, but i feel if i did in air trial i wouldn’t get past the opening segment

[oak berry]

I have no idea how you people use one-handed

[random gull]

I am trying to learn one handed on my ipad and I keep accidentally flying I’m used to 2 handed on my android

[pine remnant]

two-handed is difficult bc i keep trying to move the camera or swiping to jump. and my ipad is big enough that two handed is unwieldy

[sand dawn]

I managed to do air trail 1 handed while brushing my teeth!
||And totally didn’t cheat by following friends here and there.. ||

[random gull]

yeah I can’t do 2 handed on the ipad. I can’t hold it upright

[tiny umbra]

Me who uses both consistently,
The shift isnt that bad, if you're really worried, practice in a place like the citadel, both versions function the same, but if you're on two handed and coming to one handed, you might fly or might jump when you meant to move the camera. If you're coming from one handed to two handed, you wont have the buttons placement memorized in your muscle memory, you might move the camera when you meant to jump, or like me you'll simply have no idea which side is which, I see people in screenshots having flight on the right and movement on the left while I have it the other way around.
Two handed on the ipad just prop it on your legs

[sand dawn]

I wish I could get used to 1 handed.. because you can actively fly with emotes open like that

Allows for some fun moves that are impossible in 2 handed

[tiny umbra]

Oop, you reminded me I needed to try something, hehe
I mostly use one handed in wasteland thou,

Ok you can’t fly while having the block list open apparently
Edit: Oh wait I could get up there anyways

[buoyant geyser]

and also you can deep call while walking in 1 handed mode

[tiny umbra]

Havent you already been able to do that in 2 handed as well ?

[buoyant geyser]

nope ,you can try it yourself

[gilded parrot]

u_u

[random gull]

what’s wrong skybot

[fathom river]

skybot u okay?

[buoyant geyser]

skybot got krilled

[tiny umbra]

Oh huh, you're right

[random gull]

did skybot come here for headpats because we’re nicer to them than gen chat

[late mountain]

Skybot got spooked 👻

[fathom river]

maybe he was spooked by toilet krill

[late mountain]

I still don’t trust Skybot, their krilling tally is off the charts.

[random gull]

aw skybot’s only doing what the mods tell them to XD bread tho, gotta watch out for bread’s krills

[gaunt prism]

have candles that give wax in the trial of fire?

[random gull]

the white candles in the fire trial don’t give wax (there’s no red ones). the white ones are just for preserving your light so you don’t die

[slim kayak]

If they gave wax, people would definitely run it every day

[hollow cloak]

Honestly, I kind of wish it gave wax, that'd be more motivation to keep trying to get to the next candle even when you've died so many times

[random gull]

have you tried the latest update? it really did get easier to hit checkpoints without dying infinitely XD

[hollow cloak]

I was waiting for it to download, my internet is supremely slow

[alpine field]

It also showed the safepoints in the second stage via no. of candles

[quaint onyx]

Noooo... Not #android-beta-chat
My post count just dropped by half

[timid basalt]

went in fire trial, i'm lost
but it is easier to not die anymore tho

[quaint onyx]

Awww... Don't know if I saved all my glitch pics

[late mountain]

I think its just hidden, not fully deleted. Not sure if that really helps though unless you wanted to ask for it to return briefly so you and others can save anything you need to/would like to.

[hollow cloak]

Well, it was sitting empty for several months with it implied that they were planning to delete it (and just didn't get around to it), so there was a fair window to go back through it...

[late mountain]

Yeah, I was never part of it myself, just offering options.

[slim kayak]

that chat kind of just... died at the end. so many people migrated there to ask about invite waves, when it was just the access wipe

[random gull]

I think it was meant to be a temporary channel in the first place

[slim kayak]

yeah. it kinda just sat there empty after android release.

[late mountain]

I'm mostly curious about the new channel #cozy-sky-discussion. Looks like a gem

[random gull]

it was wild for a little while in march though during android stress testing I definitely did not contribute to that

[slim kayak]

oh yeah. lots of new people in that chat during stress testing.

[random gull]

oh yeah cozy chat is gen chat with: longer slowmode, no off topic, and extra wholesomeness

[copper bison]

ah yeah, #cozy-sky-discussion. i'm excited cause i can't keep up with #general-sky-discussion so i'm hoping it'll be more calm

[random gull]

catch me in cozy chat crying at all the cute moth stories

[stark sundial]

[late mountain]

To be honest I feel like beta chat is my cozy sky discussion channel right now. It is nice and slow paced, I recognise most of you and you're all the best as we discuss what's new and upcoming in beta.

[spark lance]

how did #cozy-sky-discussion came to be, was it a prominently requested user suggestion? sorry i missed a lot

[late mountain]

I'm not sure myself, its certainly a lovely idea though. Really fits with the sky theme in my opinion.

[stark sundial]

I rem I read a wish someday of a user who asked for a place where we can just express when we are really happy about an achievement in the game... don't know if it's related

[tiny umbra]

People always talk about how chaotic and fast moving gen chat is, that’s why some live people lurk in beta most of the time or in the other channels where they made their own little niche, but sometimes you just wanna talk about sky without worrying about stuff being off topic to the channel, but again, gen chat chaotic

[copper bison]

yeah, i can agree. beta-gen is definetely my cozy sky discussion. it's really calm when there isn't an argument or an invite wave or something- and is probably the reason why i'm so active on this server.

[late mountain]

Yeah, its cozy here

Should you be writing a speech Kai?

[potent heron]

they need 2 gen chats to split people up a bit

[copper bison]

oh yeah, i finished that. forgot to change my nickname lol

[late mountain]

Nice

[humble raft]

i'm not actually a beta tester (though i do want to join in the next invite wave!) but i lurk here a bunch it's actually fun seeing what goes on here, it's more of my speed

[dense whale]

/ oh hi res

[random gull]

I love beta testing. Fun things like floor is lava bug happen

[hollow cloak]

Also I find that the people who hang out here tend to be on the more mature side of Sky's audience, which is nice for discussions

[copper bison]

i usually set those nicknames so people can yell at me for getting off track. i should really try keeping myself on track, but i just can't and as a result i set those nicknames

[late mountain]

I'll be interested to see how this new cosy channel will turn out. I'm a little worried since this server is so popular that it will still be too chaotic in there for my taste. The problem is though that if you turn slow mode up too much then it goes from chaotic to hard to keep a conversation flow since there's such a message gap. Best hopes for it turning out cozy as can be

Aww, I'm sure we're all happy to nudge you back to work Kai Not a bad idea to be honest, maybe I should do that sometimes

[random gull]

Lol I just realized the time

[gilded parrot]

is everyone up to modschief?

[hollow cloak]

I'm definitely interested in cozy channel, because honestly... People going off-topic on channels kind of drives me nuts, and it happens all the time on gen chat

[late mountain]

Time for sneep Kai its like 11:30 there right?

[random gull]

12:05

[late mountain]

Eep, going to sneep then? ^^

[random gull]

At least I got off sky so aeras can't find me there ngl I was ready to just camp in homespace with my bonfire all night

[copper bison]

insert ing pointing at (i made an emoji for it but cries in broke and no nitro)

[late mountain]

Aye yae yae , he'll find you here soon if my nudges aren't enough.

~~Aww ~~

[stone fulcrum]

sneep is very important, I need to sneep. Night sky kids

[late mountain]

Goodnight Atikapa!

And there's Aeras reacting

What do people think of the changes to fire and air trial? Still getting lost in fire?

[random gull]

I got very lost but it's much more doable solo now

[slim kayak]

I've been too busy today to go in fire solo, but I'll check it out during the weekend!

Also go sneep!

[gilded parrot]

[random gull]

Lol skybot on my side today!!!

[copper bison]

skybot-

[late mountain]

I'll have to take a look when I'm free from exam study

Skybot! The betrayal is real

[slim kayak]

Skybot you're not supposed to do that

[random gull]

nothing can stop me now!

[copper bison]

the chaos energy... it's too much... kai has overpowered us all

[late mountain]

Someone set up their new campfire by their bed side so its cozy and might entice them

[random gull]

One of these days I'm gonna get a bean in beta chat for being like this

Two devs have beaned me now

[hollow cloak]

The whole server knows

[late mountain]

I'm still running free from the beanings and not entierly sure what they do yet

Also go sneep please

[random gull]

Bean is like a joke ban. Nothing bad happens its just for fun

[fresh quiver]

Sneep

[late mountain]

Ooh, sounds fun Thank you. ^^ Now go sneep before all of your 170k friends come find you speaking of which I should really send you a friend invite sometime if you're happy for me to?

[random gull]

Yeah my dms are open so go ahead

[late mountain]

Thank you ^^ I will later when I get the chance to come on sky.

[hollow cloak]

The funny thing is that it's the same time for me as Kai, so when everyone's trying to convince them to sleep, I'm also like hmm... maybe i should sleep

[late mountain]

Both of you need to go sneep please

[random gull]

Me when people actually use they/them for me:

[hollow cloak]

I know we don't know each other that well so maybe this isn't good incentive, but Kai, if you sleep, I'll go to bed instead of running Fire Trial

[late mountain]

Me when people actually use they/them for me:
Go sneep with your new bonfire Kai and then Soap will go sneep too. its a win win

Edit: Clyde, the other emotes work , at least translate those.
Double Edit: There, fixed

[hollow cloak]

ominous silence from Kai

[random gull]

fine. I sneep

[gilded parrot]

Mods? WHERE?!

[late mountain]

Yay, good night both of you

No mods here, skybot, only sneep

[brisk condor]

i WOULD sneep but i forgot to finish my practice PSAT...

[hollow cloak]

It worked!
Goodnight everyone!

[gilded parrot]

I don't know if they're watching tho...

[copper bison]

skybot is sentient

[late mountain]

Skybot is scary

[slim kayak]

skybot they're always watching

[late mountain]

I really don't want to flood this channel with sneep buuuuut, I noticed your discord mood says you need a nap Aeras

Back to topic though how is the new table teleport working? Same fix for the swing and bonfire or still in the works?

[vapid briar]

cozy chat means i might slither out of this channel more often <_<

but then i have to worry about spoiler tags

[copper bison]

oh shoot right, spoiler tags!

[radiant drum]

[late mountain]

Yeah me too, I'm hoping it turns out great. Semi worried like I said earlier though about finding the balance between so many people using it but not making the chat disjointed with too long of a slowmode.

[sullen relic]

that's always a bit of paranoia for me: the risk of forgetting what channel i'm in

[vapid briar]

long slowmodes work pretty well here when the chaos is running high, so it's promising.

best get your reaction game on point

[late mountain]

True, anything over 2 minutes starts to get disjointed though in my opinion. At least for a cosy vibe where things can flow. Beta chat certainly needs it sometimes along with all the other chats when the times arise though.

[potent heron]

Where are the golden sky emotes from

[copper bison]

actually, i have no idea. where do those golden sky emotes come from

[late mountain]

Any idea on what slowmode the discord team was thinking for the cosy channel Ktjn? Or will it more be start it at a rough value and see how it goes to work from there?

[slim kayak]

The gold emotes are from an external server. You gotta look for them

[potent heron]

let me in omg

[spark lance]

I love those shiny emojis

[vapid briar]

it'll probably be a prime number <_<

we're thinking 1-3 minutes depending on the chaos

[slim kayak]

Yay! I love prime numbers

[late mountain]

Oh man I have a love hate relationship with prime number slow modes. It just feels so out of whack to me But like, its a prime number, it has a special name, it must be fine, right?

Edit: Ooh okay, thank you will be interested to see how it lands.

[slim kayak]

I mean... if beta chat can survive with permanent slow mode, I hope another gen chat can.

[lilac solstice]

I am quite excited for the cozy chat. I can take a break from the chaos general has sometimes

In fact this chat is already a nice break since it is so calm

[late mountain]

I have no doubt it will survive with the slowmode, I'm more worried it might still get chaotic. Since beta chat has a lot smaller user base than gen chat does and I pressume a good chunk of gen chat will want to try out cozy chat.

[vapid briar]

It's one of those good but also unfortunate side effects of such a large server, gen chat moves so fast it's hard to have conversations, but more importantly creates an overwhelming vibe to the extent some folks don't feel comfortable chatting at all. We want to bring back that safe space feeling that can kinda get lost in gen chat.

[lilac solstice]

I just love the idea of it. It's really great

[sullen relic]

i've seen some servers which open multiple copies of channels to try and create more conversation space, but that's also a bit of a moderating headache

[potent heron]

general 1, general 2....

[lilac solstice]

I have a server I own. Many want it to be larger, but large servers would be a pain to moderate

[vapid briar]

cognitive accessibility for those who maybe struggle with too much stimuli in a fast-paced chat is important.

[slim kayak]

it's such a great idea! i tend to stick exclusively to the beta channels because it's more quiet. i hope the cozy chat can bring out some of our silent lurkers for some fun

[stray imp]

Is the crab from broken tample got some buff?

Coz today i got hit by one crab and got send fly half of map. Lol.
This is my new record to get yeet this far

[late mountain]

I'm hoping it will end up that most of the time people stick to general chat because of the low slow mode, but then they drop into cosy when they want a nice slow pace. That way cosy shouldn't get overwhelmed with just sheer user numbers even with a slowmode trying to keep it down.

[lilac solstice]

I'm actually hiding here because Gen chat can be overwhelming

[tiny umbra]

Tag team cozy and gen chat

[vapid briar]

and yeah it definitely creates more moderation challenges, and we've discussed adding the space for a few months, so we're prepared for the extra work because it's important to us and the mods.

[stark sundial]

what's the limit of things that can be updated in the back-end of the game? like the toggle was changed in the server or how it works?

[late mountain]

Aww, thank you for thinking of us Ktjn and team. On behalf of all of us we appreciate it.

[vapid briar]

depends on if it's a server or client-side data point.

[sullen relic]

yeah, i was actually quite surprised the flight toggle could be changed without requiring a full app update, that wasn't what i was expecting

[vapid briar]

some things are built into the code that you download onto your device, some things are queried from the game servers and relayed back to your device.

[copper bison]

yeah, the cozy chat idea is great. one of the reasons i stick around in beta gen is because of how calm it is at times compared to gen chat. when i first arrived in the server and hopped in gen chat, i felt like gen chat was too fast paced and no one would really listen to what i was saying. so when cozy chat was announced, i got really happy

[potent heron]

I actually get vertigo trying to read gen chat lol. I stick here now

[vapid briar]

so things like levels and cosmetics are stored on your device, but the code to retrieve the information from our servers to tell you what items your friends have equipped is on our servers.

[slim kayak]

i still can't figure out the puzzle with the letters
huh. is that where moth bug comes from? the server not being able to tell our devices what cosmetics we're wearing?

[spark lance]

Hmm quick question...it’s never been out a red winter cape right?👁️👁️ guess I’ll have to report that player

[vapid briar]

I don't mind the speed of gen chat per se, but when I do pop in all attention turns to me cuz I'm a dev and I start getting pelted with questions that I need to be more thoughtful with my responses so it takes more time. Reasons I end up posting walls of text long after the topic has shifted.

[oak berry]

wait theres a letter puzzle?

[late mountain]

Speaking of channels have the team ever considered a thank you chat like in the unofficial journey server? I always feel like it would be nice to see some love spread between friends who went on an adventure together along with thank you to the all parts of the sky team.

[stark sundial]

yeah like sometimes when a name for a mission gets a glitch it shows as an html file iirc

[slim kayak]

look at the devs' and mod's pfp
ktjn has an f

[oak berry]

so that's what the letters are for

[vapid briar]

Yep, it's called an authority issue with the network communications. The network basically gets clogged and hangs, refusing to transmit the information correctly.

that's why it impacts things like outfits, wax collection, spell usage, and so on.

[oak berry]

Theres f, i, h, y, and s what could that mean

[late mountain]

I'm not sure if you have already Ktjn but there's always the option of an alternate account where you can go by a game name and then just chill in the chat so people wont blow you away. You're really famous here.

[vapid briar]

it's incredibly tricky to replicate in a closed environment, which is why it's been such a challenge to fix.

I do have a smurf account in the server.

I just raaaaarely use it.

[stark sundial]

sorry for too many questions... but I'm still intrigue if Nick's pfp can be assume as an O

[slim kayak]

fishy dragon
there's more, but they're not online. mirian has a j, there are 2 y's, a d somewhere....

[oak berry]

Oh shira has a k

[stark sundial]

FIYMHXAYSIDDCFKKYJ that's all I have :v

[vapid briar]

I don't typically feel the need to hide, but I know that I only have so much time in the day, and want to give the time and attention to answer questions because I want to do those things.

[oak berry]

what could it all mean.. f I h y s j y y d

[vapid briar]

we put a bunch scrabble pieces in a hat and everyone took turns picking a letter.

[spark lance]

u do such an amazing work ktjn, I could never handle this jawjsj

[potent heron]

missed the k

[late mountain]

Nice, hopefully that will at least help ease the pressure then We really appreciate you helping us out when you're free, but I'm sure none of us want to be overwhelming you or taking away the lovely peace you can get on this server by chilling in the chats and not being a dev where we all have out questions.

[sullen relic]

i feel like you guys just picked random letters just to see what kind of chaos gets stirred up from us trying to make a message out of the letters

[slim kayak]

no wonder they're almost all consonants

[stark sundial]

I mean skykid can be formed, that's something

[oak berry]

I'm gonna find a word unscramble r still worth a shot trying!

[potent heron]

what if its super complex and all the letters are off by one

[slim kayak]

i've tried arranging them by alphabet of the mod's names, but nothing

[stark sundial]

I think we still need more letters like out of nowhere I did "if skykid had comfy" only if I had an O lol

[late mountain]

Next thing we know we'll be getting an army decoder professional out here to the lovely sky server to solve it.

[oak berry]

The unscrambler got dishy and fishy

[slim kayak]

see? i told you dragon

[oak berry]

Wait someone has f again?

[sullen relic]

ktjn herself

[slim kayak]

yeah. lots of repeat letters.

[stark sundial]

ktjn and pigeon have F

[humble raft]

i have a list of the devs/mods/sheps and their letters that i found so far

[oak berry]

I wonder if the dev's, mods, and shepherds are doing this or people are just jumping on the bandwagon

[slim kayak]

shira and bread have k's look at bread's pfp
wait not bread
someone had a dancing k in their pfp

[gilded parrot]

You rang?

[stark sundial]

idk if chia pfp have a letter

Mirian needs you to wait for it

[gilded parrot]

Mods? WHERE?!

[sullen relic]

i'm actually surprised skybot isn't in on this letter gig

[copper bison]

once aeras pointed out there was an f on ktjn's pfp i can't unsee it

[stark sundial]

yeah I think is better just to know the letters for later reference

chicky have an X

[late mountain]

The worst nightmare would be if some normal users had a letter too that was meant to be included. People who are close friends with the devs.

[stark sundial]

that could easily ruin everything cause someone can fake a letter

[slim kayak]

Some people actually did add letters to their pfp already

[fresh quiver]

For a while I thought Ktjn's letter had to do with being krilled

[potent heron]

Sorry to interrupt this conspiracy conversation but I'm heading over to the trials. Do we know what was changed in the air trial?

[late mountain]

That's why it would be the nightmare to solve Zeryle You'd need to work out who's was true and who's was false,

[lilac solstice]

Wait do these letters on each pfp spell anything yet?

[slim kayak]

Wind isn't as harsh and there's an extra checkpoint right before the end of air

[dapper ginkgo]

For a while I thought Ktjn's letter had to do with being krilled
Frick I just got krilled.

[late mountain]

Sorry to interrupt this conspiracy conversation but I'm heading over to the trials. Do we know what was changed in the air trial?
Last I heard some air currents were removed and toned down, haven't had a chance to test it myself though.

[lilac solstice]

Ooo guess I'm gonna go test air out now

[stark sundial]

Luci I think the only word we can assume would be skykid, but we still need more for the entire sentence

[late mountain]

Wait do these letters on each pfp spell anything yet?
They spell many things, none of which make sense yet

[lilac solstice]

Lol. Guess we have to wait to see where it goes

[dense whale]

/yall do notice one of the less active CM has an M right?

[oak berry]

Too many letters

[stark sundial]

yes Kuroneko's letter M was in my list

[dense whale]

/wait we have a list right?

[oak berry]

Theres a list?

[dense whale]

/zeryle give me your list

[stark sundial]

FIYMHXAYSIDDCFKKYJ

[potent heron]

you could make sky kid, idk bout the rest

[mild panther]

How do people get bonfire on beta?

[potent heron]

spells?

[late mountain]

Spells and for testing purposes. Possibly also from the season itself although I'm not sure it lasted long enough in beta.

[mild panther]

No. An actual bonfire. Like Kai has even tho they didn't join before belonging from what they've said

So my question is, how? Is it somehow obtainable?

[late mountain]

Kai got it for testing purposes from Ktjn so they could test for how the table teleport works with bonfire.

[mild panther]

Favoritism much..

[sullen relic]

this doesn't really answer your question, but report anything you find suspicious -- if they're actually innocent as in kai's case, nothing should happen to them

[hidden quarry]

everyones progress (cosmetics) could get wiped at any time

[late mountain]

That's not favouritism. They were there testing with table but didn't have bonfire so Ktjn was able to provide them with it for more testing. Its very important to find these bugs in beta before they make it to live or so they can be patched in live. Remember this is beta, we're all here to test and make live a better place.

[mild panther]

I want a bonfire for testing purposes too then

[late mountain]

I think they already got the data

Also worth noting Kai didn't ask for the bonfire, they were merely talking about testing as normal and Ktjn was able to step in and help

[tender knoll]

Table teleportation is completely gone

[potent heron]

is table teleporting into cutscenes gone too? I'm not actually sure what forcefully moving people means

[mild panther]

I don't have a table so I can't check.

[scenic verge]

Just stopping by to say hello! And hope everyone has amazing day 🤍🥰

[sullen relic]

green, the elder cutscene version of table teleporting was (unintentionally) patched out quite a while ago -- what happens is that having your emote menu open causes the meditation circle to vanish, so you can't meditate with your table out

[potent heron]

oop. I liked those areas

[rocky solar]

teleporting in cutscene isn't exactly a teleport so it still works(i believe you're talking about elder room oob?)

[sullen relic]

it's the elder room OOB where you use a table to put friends in the cutscene, yes

[stark sundial]

aiyen you could find a bug related to the bonfire, then try to explained to a dev, but then you found out it's a little more complicated so a devs needs you to explained in game (also you would need to knew the dev from before that in game), idk if you want to try that, but that's far from favoritism

[mild panther]

In that case why we all won't have a bonfire for a day or two to test

[tender knoll]

Forcefully moving people removed as well as yourself

[late mountain]

I don't have a table to check myself but based off the conversations that have been going on today my understanding is that before this patch you could teleport moths and other players to your table without holding their hand. This could easily be exploited for trolling purposes. In this current patch I think the aim is that has been removed. table teleporting for yourself (and possibly those you hold hands with?) should still function I believe.

[stark sundial]

cause bonfire doesn't need any test anymore

[sullen relic]

table teleporting on yourself outright doesn't work right now from what i've seen -- the patch fix causes the table to get dropped in a new position when you close the emote menu, which means holding it above yourself will no longer cause you to get thrown to the old position

it's not that they tried to fix self-teleporting specifically, it's that their approach to fixing the ability to yeet other people without their consent affected all known versions of it

[mild panther]

Then people who got it for testing purposes should get it removed soon

[tender knoll]

Self teleportation is gone too

[late mountain]

Ah well, I believe it was stated earlier it would likely get removed as an unintended feature that was easily exploitable for trolling. Was nice while it lasted but I would rather a troll free game than a game with a few nice ease of life glitches.

Feel free to leave feedback though about it.

[stark sundial]

aiyen that's not up to you to decide (it's beta) and what I imply that it was a very specific case so it doesn't have to bother you or anyone

[sullen relic]

it might be worth considering a different line of thought too: feedback on what the table teleporting was contributing to the game as a means of identifying where some improvements might be suggested (e.g. that sanctuary and forgotten ark are both very big deadend maps with no fast way back across such a long distance)

[late mountain]

Good idea for feedback I'd say, because yes certainly was helpful to prevent a return journey.

[sullen relic]

and i mean "dead end" in the sense that they're maps which only have one entrance and exit, and don't lead anywhere else (i.e. you're necessarily doing a huge loop, with a large part of the backtracking contributing no further candles or stimulus to the candle run)

[slim kayak]

Tested earlier for confirmation: bonfire and swing dont teleport anymore.

[spark lance]

beta players were given the bonfire ¿

[slim kayak]

No. Only testers who tested belonging and a few others have bonfire for testing purposes

[cedar tusk]

Does anyone know how to separate account collusion.

[spark lance]

but shouldn't there have been a beta-wide testing instead? that would've been more helpful and everyone would've gotten an equal chance

[stark sundial]

wilson you should have only 1 account in 1 device so that shouldn't happen

[slim kayak]

@cedar tusk its best to ask in #questions-and-help

[cedar tusk]

ok

[stark sundial]

equal chance for what? it was a very specific case that didn't needed wild testing, it was just for the devs

[late mountain]

Some beta players got bonfire for testing purposes only. Its probably best not to bring it up too much since it seems it might be a little touchy for some people. Please remember everyone beta is for testing and is not a substitute for live. TGC appreciates you helping them test but the accounts are purely for just that, testing. They can and will be wiped if that's what's best for testing and your live account should be the one you look after your skykid on, try not to get hung up on what's happening in beta and just send in your bug reports and honest feedback.

[zinc prawn]

Btw all the stuff can be wiped out from beta anyway , i dont see why you would want the bonfire unless to just wear it then, thats not the point of beta

[sullen relic]

there's more than just the cosmetics and items being tested in beta: the levels themselves and how we play them, as well as the ease/difficulty of purchasing items are also part of the test scenario -- a lot of those variables can't be tested if we're all given the same account conditions (i.e. the fact that different players go about things differently because of how they're limited by certain items is likely very much part of the data they're using)

[spark lance]

equal chance to test and give a variety of feedback. I'm just asking because giving an ultimate item for testing when devs have their own test server + beta players are already being told not to join for exclusive items yet this method of testing seems a bit iffy. I couldn't careless about cosmetics, I can't even test the game bcs the over heating makes my device lag out, but its just a bit weird imo to give an ultimate gift for testing only to a handful of people when spells exist and when a larger group could've provided more feedback

[mild panther]

Favoritism

[slim kayak]

In order to give players certain items, they have to manually go though each account and add them. That would be using up time that could have been used to fix bugs. As long as there are players with these items to test, they don't need to give them out. Unless there's a need, they won't give out free cosmetics to everyone

[stark sundial]

the devs decide how wild they want to test things, cause we don't how much feedback they needed, if they want just 2 people testing its their choice, spells is different than an owned item and I think we all know that difference

[late mountain]

As someone who saw it happen in the chat it was a lot more a case of convenient to test here and now than needing a large sample size since it has appeared to be consistent over platforms. It was good fortune for Kai but please try not to get hung up on it people. We're here to help TGC test, not get bonuses and free content.

[mild panther]

it looks like that though

[tender knoll]

If you were there when the food is being served, you will get served. But since you weren’t. Please stop it now.

[slim kayak]

Yup! We are testers first. That was only one instance where a bug needed to be tested by someone who was active already. Please try to not blame the devs for picking and choosing players for testing. That's not their intention. They just need help to make the game better.

Alright let's move on from this topic

[spark lance]

im not hung up, I was asking bcs it was weird to me that an ultimate was given out, but I was met with these different responses where I felt like I was being told to get over something I was just confused on- you guys are so quick to assume things when I was just asking

[late mountain]

I think we've all said our parts on this discussion and laid out the facts, if you still feel it was unfair or have an opinion you wish to share then feel free to leave constructive feedback in the feedback channel and we can move on to a new topic here please.

[tender knoll]

Resize spells doesn’t work.

[sullen relic]

did you relog after using the resize potion?

[slim kayak]

Yeah, that's a known bug. Restart your game to see your new size (hopefully)

[tender knoll]

Yeah. Nothing happened.

[late mountain]

If you can not see any size change after using a resize potion then it is a bug. If there is still no size change after a restart then its a different bug to the current one we seem to have where it wont show immediately. Probably worth a report with a short description saying a restart did not reveal results either

[tender knoll]

I’m still the same size

[zinc prawn]

If the bonfire wasnt a ultimate it would be still given out to test because we were trying to figure out a fixed bug and confirm its patching. It being an ultimate has nothing to do with the situation, if that’s the answer you’re looking for. (Sorry i know yall said to move on but my response was late )

[tender knoll]

Anyway. Almost reset time. Will go make the most of the table teleportation while I still can, in live.

[zinc prawn]

happy reset

[slim kayak]

I should be asleep but I've got a project to work on

[late mountain]

@spark lance, sorry if it came across that way, the conversation was already in swing so I think some of us might have been earing more to caution in our responses as we did not want it to continue. I'm sure none of us meant to assume.

I should be asleep but I've got a project to work on
@slim kayak Don't make me start having to tell both Kai and you to go to bed Aeras
Also unless that project is due tomorrow you're probably best getting a good night's sleep and setting time aside for it tomorrow.

[spark lance]

no problem

[dense whale]

/you still confused tho?

[vapid briar]

Let's quash this right now.

[oak berry]

tried working on the backlog of stuff I need to do but now I cant sleep, oh dear

[slim kayak]

it's due tomorrow
well... today now since it's midnight

[late mountain]

it's due tomorrow
Oof. Well good luck with it mate. I really hope it goes well and you can still get a good night's sleep.

[spring yoke]

I finally got the drum in live,, cant wait to scare people off

[dense whale]

/wdym scare ppl of

[spring yoke]

DUNDUNDUNDUNDUNDUN

[oak berry]

intimidation

[spark lance]

I asked one question because I was confused, i get it. it was an as needed basis. please drop it

[spring yoke]

The top very left sound in the drum sounds so threatening

[vapid briar]

I gave Kai the bonfire and swing to test the table fix based on a bug report they previously submitted earlier in the day, it was a time-sensitive ask and they were willing and available to check for us. I'm sure they'd understand if i removed those items from their account to keep things fair if we're going to throw accusations of favoritism around, but honestly I expect better of all of you than to throw a fit or make baseless claims out of petty jealousy.

[stark sundial]

jen
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[dense whale]

/zeryle i dont like what i just saw

[late mountain]

Thanks for the explanation Ktjn I hope we were able to explain it pretty well too before you showed up.

[spark lance]

thanks for explaining but people are human and it isn't really petty jealousy if someone doesn't know the full story you cant really just assume that

[spring yoke]

The vibes of that video.. immaculate

[dense whale]

/and i was thinking it'ss a regular old drum

[oak berry]

It's no old drum for sure!

[slim kayak]

now i wanna see the questgiver do that

[late mountain]

I think the scariest bit of this drum is that you can run with it while doing that too. DUN...DUN...DUN..DUN..DUN.DUN.DUNDUNDUNDUN

[dense whale]

/no aeras my brain just thought of that image i dont like that either

[vapid briar]

I do sincerely appreciate all of you who came to Kai's defense to explain the circumstances under which I granted them those items.

[stark sundial]

I think that when there was already plenty of context and people explaining all, to then keep saying that there was favoritism then yeah we can assume petty jealousy

[zinc prawn]

hope you’re having a good night ktjn

[spark lance]

lets not throw around names or labels, conflict resolution should be mature

saying "You're just being petty and jealous" solves absolutely nothing. sure there's context but if someone is really that upset simply cut the convo or ignore. no need to shade by calling them those things

[late mountain]

Tobi, Ktjn is the community manager, they help us by stepping in and providing full explanations rather than ignoring it.

[mild panther]

Explanations by calling someone petty, jealous or as neurotypical if i remember correctly.
Not that i care but it's not nice to be called like that

[stark sundial]

depends in the context too and there was plenty of it, nothing would be solved either if someone gave you context and explanations to then just ignore all that

[spark lance]

yes I can see that, but my point still stands that labeling someone as petty, jealous, or something else comes off a bit immature for conflict resolution. yes someone might've been overly upset by something the community understood, but you can't assume or gaslight their feelings by making an explanation and ending it with " i expect better than all of you to not be petty and jealous"

psychologically speaking, conflict is resolved through communication, discussing the issue, not by giving a final response with a backhanded community scolding. especially when it's something as minor as confusion over an in-game testing that came suddenly

[vapid briar]

When the conversation is centered around, "why did this person get X, that's unfair." it's reasonable to assume the sentiment is derived from jealousy, or fear of missing out. A handful of people who were around when the request for testing was made explained the situation, and the subject should have been dropped. However, it wasn't. It proceeded to include accusations of favoritism, an unfounded claim. So yeah, it is petty, and poorly-intentioned behavior.

[spark lance]

You cannot assume feelings are derived from a certain emotion when the situation caters to it. Its just immature. The accusations were childish, sure, but to call someone petty over it instead of address the situation professionally is concerning. It wasn't petty, just a burst of frustration. You should know that pettiness is a form of direct attacks whilst frustration is an outburst of prolonged disappointment of expectations. Maybe they had a bad day, rough time with bugs in live, or felt the game is losing its standards, and this was their last straw. As a community manager, assuming and labeling your audience according to your own beliefs is incredibly immature.

[signal ingot]

I'm really sorry for interrupting, but is the sanctuary glitch fixed yet?

Thank you!! Sorry I just haven't been on in a while so I was worried

[dense whale]

/it's okay watermelon

[late mountain]

You can safely venture to the land of relaxation with friends once again

[vapid briar]

And I sincerely do expect better of everyone than to sit around and complain about an item used for testing purposes and attack someone who isn't here to defend themselves, doubly so after given the reason for the situation that occurred. We expect all community members to treat one another with kindness and understanding.

[signal ingot]

Yay!!

[spark lance]

I suggest you do what you ask for and to not call your community members by labels you saw fit when you could've handled it without them.

[onyx summit]

Tobi I suggest you actually read what was said in response instead of focusing on the fact that you were called petty.

[stark sundial]

the context of the final response wasn't directly to just something as minor as a confusion, with just the proper context and even reading #beta-faq accusations of favoritism fall way out of place even before knowing the first fact that someone got just 1 or 2 items from devs. This is falling to definition of words that are way too far from the original topic :v like it's really that concerning? tobi wasn't called petty kiaze

[onyx summit]

Excuse me for interrupting

[spark lance]

I did read. It's immature for a community manager to call people those things over a minor issue. I couldn't care less about what a stranger refers to me as, but it's simply wrong in my eyes to handle a conflict with the use of negative connotations.

[zinc prawn]

(id hate to also interrupt but i hope everyone has a nice day/night, it was good to beta test again after a while , especially those funky table glitches
will be going now for some sneep)

[soft monolith]

I don’t think that there is a need to worry too much about items in beta. It’s only for testing and it’s not a live version where someone got an ultimate gift let’s just relax

[onyx summit]

I shouldn’t have joined in when I didn’t have full understanding of the situation, my apologies,

[spark lance]

I'll drop the topic since it's becoming touchy. But just don't refer to your audience with names or labels like that. It's unprofessional.

[oak berry]

I'll be going to bed now, goodnight everyone

[pallid badger]

Goodnight Dragon!

[late mountain]

Goodnight! Have a good sneep

[slim kayak]

i should sneep too, it's nearing 1 am and i have class in a few hours

[sterile plinth]

Goodnight everyone

[spark lance]

Hey i wanted to ask does the ts require pass or did that got removed?

[late mountain]

A few hours Man that's some early class you got there Aeras. Have a nice night and good luck with your studies, I hope it goes well!

[hollow compass]

I just woke up. Maybe I should go back to bed again...
@spark lance the pass requirement was a test, and got a lot of negative feedback, so I believe it was removed for the time being. I'm sure there will be some other suggested solution coming soon. 🙂

[spark lance]

Thank you 💞💞

[slim kayak]

few hours is about 5-6 ish hours from now.~~ hopefully that's enough sneep to be awake for it~~
goodnight everyone!

[dense whale]

/yall better sleep

[tender oasis]

The pass locked nodes are still there in the ts tho. So i don’t think it got removed. I just checked

[minor falcon]

we totally need a shaking version of the emote

[dense whale]

/dw, it's 2 pm for me

[hollow compass]

Oh, my bad! Well, in beta it hardly matters since we all have the pass anyway. I didn't notice, because I only bothered with the wing buff.

[tender oasis]

Guess u have the other nodes anyway and when you buy it or own it you cant see the pass icon anymore? But let me check again.

[stark sundial]

we need a moth doing the u_u emote

[hollow compass]

Pakka, you're right, I can't see the pass icon, because I have all the items.

[vapid briar]

I didn't call anyone anything directly, I said the behavior of attacking Kai was derived from petty jealousy, because it is. An explanation was given for why I gave them the items which were explicitly for testing purposes, the explanation was subsequently rejected and the complaints continued. Was it technically fair? No, but it was a special exception made on behalf of the dev team to gather additional information regarding a bug.

Kai's an active tester, and someone we can trust to give detailed information on an issue they experienced. They aren't unique in that quality, many of you are wonderful people and we're tremendously grateful to have your help. They just so happened to be in discord at the right time and place and had the time and motivation to perform a specific task. It isn't the first time I've given a beta tester a specific item for information gathering on behalf of the dev team, and it absolutely won't be the last.

I want to remind everyone that Beta is for testing purposes, unique or emergent situations will arise from time to time that require immediate action. Beta is not meant to collect unique items or for bragging rights. It is part of community guidelines to treat one another with kindness and respect, and when those guidelines are disregarded to lash out at another member of the community, staff or mods will step in and call out the behavior.

I apologize for my actions upsetting you, but I do hope that you will consider that the things you said and the accusations made were also hurtful toward other members of the community.

[dense whale]

/so how the air trial update?

[potent heron]

much less frustrating

[hollow compass]

It's ok. Tbh, I found that new checkpoint at the end mostly just aesthetically jarring.

[potent heron]

the added checkpoint at the end was a good idea

[hollow compass]

But yes, I can see that it makes that last u-turn a little easier. Because previously, if you didn't manage to chain all three candle platforms perfectly, you would just be yeeted into eternity.

[tender oasis]

My main problem with the 3 plattform was the camera. I couldnt rotate as fast as i should have done it to be able to control the second plattform jump. So i needed to start with an already rotated screen. ( and in this case I cant really see anything from the first part ) so the new checkpoint helps in that.

[sullen relic]

i wonder how that'd feel on controller then actually, if rotating the camera to keep up was an issue on a touchscreen
i didn't have any issues with it personally on an ipad screen, but a phone screen might be an entirely different matter

[dense whale]

/~~i cant believe yall are saying this so proffessionally like the smart kids talking after a test ~~

[hollow compass]

I found using a controller helped a lot, even before the checkpoint was added. You can do so much more simultaneously on a controller that doesn't work, even on two-handed mode.

[tender oasis]

It was an issue with one hand mode only? At least on my tablet. Actually it was way easier to manage it on phone. Guess because phone is more sensitive and requires smaller movements while u have to do bigger ones in ipad which takes time?

[sullen relic]

ah, that might be why i haven't noticed it myself using two-hand mode on an ipad with a stand -- having a free hand you can swipe in the air without needing to support the device's weight probably adds more options

[minor falcon]

for extra challenge run two handed without a stand on the old ipad pros

[tender oasis]

I’m useless with 2 hand besides one hand mode is the perfect one if u like to eat or drink simultaneously while playing
Anyway fire trial became waaay more easier for soloing. I haven’t done it with piggy group yet, but hopefully i can today.

[sullen relic]

fire trial's second area feels a fair bit more lenient solo now, i'm not too sure about the third area though because i'm still getting lost amongst all the effectively invisible walls in the darkness

[tender oasis]

Long beep and move the camera so you can look at it from an upper perspective. Helped me a lot to see where are the walls,

[potent heron]

I did the first 2 areas of the fire trial solo and it felt a lot fairer. Only quit cause I ran outta time

[vapid briar]

team 1-handed mode, anyone?

[sullen relic]

the upper perspective thing helps a lot with seeing already lit candles, but i've got problems seeing where the next candle is around me in the darkness and when zoomed out

[potent heron]

I don't think I've ever actually tried 1 handed mode

[dense whale]

/ktjn what time is it for you? isnt it sneep time?

[vapid briar]

probably

[oak berry]

turns out I cant actually sleep whoops

[sullen relic]

...oh wow, that's going to take more getting used to than i realised: you can't actually run and look around at the same time in "true" one-handed mode (possible if you actually use two hands, but i cannot figure out this control set-up for the life of me right now)

[minor falcon]

every time I flip to portrait mode for screenshots I feel immense respect for one hand players

[vapid briar]

you can run and look with one hand, but it takes practice

[hollow compass]

To turn the camera, you use two fingers on the screen in one-handed mode. I should really film myself playing Sky, so people can see how smooth it is. 😉

[sullen relic]

i'm trying to figure out how you guys are meant to run, turn camera and jump/flap at the same time -- how on earth are you crazy peeps even playing like this?

[tender oasis]

But chibi fall is harder

[minor falcon]

I just play on three hand mode

[hollow compass]

Portrait mode in one-handed is just...nope.
spearmonkey: to jump you flick, just like the old "flick to fly" that still exists at the Prairie ramp.

[vapid briar]

admittedly, have never used chibi-fall

[oak berry]

Maybe I should try one handed sometime

[vapid briar]

i try 2-handed when i use my phone and i just..cannot, lol.

[sullen relic]

so you have to keep flicking to skip around the place?

[hollow compass]

YES! You should all do one-handed for a whole week to learn about my struggles.

[minor falcon]

devs just phase through the terrain by sheer force of will

[tender oasis]

Totally the same Ktjn. I failed every time i tried.

[sullen relic]

i'm staying far away from it then, that's gonna murder my wrist after 5 minutes

[hollow compass]

I only ever do two-handed for chibi glitching and then immediately switch back to one-handed once I'm through.

[vapid briar]

the only time i struggled with one-handed mode was using the ipad pro we use for livestreams (what feels like a million years ago) cuz it was just too big for my smol hands.

[oak berry]

I'm far more used to two handed since most of the games I play have a similar layout

[late mountain]

Two handed iPad team where we at?

[hollow compass]

Why would it murder your wrist, though? I only use my index finger to flick the screen. It's a bit like painting on the screen.

[minor falcon]

it's time to learn a new control system just for

[tender oasis]

And i think you can use one handed mode the same way u can the two. If one finger is down doing the controls and walking the other hand can rotate the screen with one finger.

[stark cloud]

cries in android can't use 1 hand mode

[dense whale]

/yall how a bout half hand mode wait no thats dumb

[hollow compass]

wait, you can't use one-handed on Android?

[tender oasis]

I can i use it there too.

[minor falcon]

no hand mode? uber

[vapid briar]

you can use one-handed mode on android

[late mountain]

/yall how a bout half hand mode wait no thats dumb
No, that's a challenge

[vapid briar]

> Control > select mode > victory!

[oak berry]

I remember when I tried to go into portrait mode before remembering its iOS only

[vapid briar]

yes portait mode is only working on ios in beta currently.

[dense whale]

/beta players review me the potrait mode please

[late mountain]

I'm surprised so many people love one handed mode. I couldn't live without two handed as my main mode of control. Its interesting to see the variation

[vapid briar]

we paused development on it because we needed to rework the UI from scratch, once that's complete, we'll likely start back up on portrait mode optimizations.

[hollow compass]

I honestly thought I was one of the last few dinosaurs using one-handed.

[tender oasis]

Except the portrait mode trick on live

[buoyant geyser]

i like 1 handed mode, bcs we can deep call while walking UwU

[vapid briar]

portrait mode is good for chatting...and tiktok

[hollow compass]

see now, I am too old tik tok

[oak berry]

And screenshots without skykids

[vapid briar]

1-handed mode peeps:

https://tenor.com/view/shouting-development-dozens-of-us-bald-speaking-gif-16881775

[sullen relic]

how did we engage portrait mode again on iOS? it doesn't seem to be the "Aspect" option

[vapid briar]

aspect turns the black borders on and off on tablets

[dense whale]

/hooo deep callng while walking is a win for me, i mite try it out

[stark cloud]

Oh wait..what a dumb me me..i thought portrait mode that i said android can't use..sorry my mistake.. my mind kinda messup right now

[tender oasis]

Theres a rotation icon in the settings. Allow it then Rotate your device

[vapid briar]

ohh okay that makes way more sense, am

[dense whale]

/wait holup yall suppose to be sneeping rn

[sullen relic]

....i'm a moron, i just realised why i wasn't seeing the option -- because i'm candle running in live right now

[vapid briar]

bamboozled

[buoyant geyser]

is theres already a design for 11 wedge in beta?

[oak berry]

So I decided to try one handed and ended up skipping around home space like a fool trying to turn the camera

[late mountain]

is theres already a design for 11 wedge in beta?
@buoyant geyser Not at the moment although you will get all 11 flaps ^^

[stark sundial]

I don't think so Trollika

[vapid briar]

The UI will show 11th wedge, but the cape pattern for 11 stars is still being developed.

There's been some confusion about that lately due to a screenshot someone shared claiming it's the new cape pattern.

[sullen relic]

...oh, portrait mode just feels wrong at first impressions -- this is gonna take getting used to, especially with the enforced tunnel vision

[hollow compass]

I don't find portrait mode adds anything to the gameplay, but it lets you create nice screenshots for phone wallpaper.

[buoyant geyser]

ahah yes, i really thought its a new pattern but, somehow it was not...

[late mountain]

I'm gonna take a break to cr in live. Will see you all later! Have a lovely night if its time to sneep for you.

[oak berry]

I wonder if the selfie looking screenshots I see is just some sort of trick or portrait mode

[late mountain]

its an emote, I forget which one though but if you use the emote and get a good angle its like a selfie shot.

[buoyant geyser]

they use the welcome emote and turn the camera to make it as selfie

[hollow compass]

You can take a selfie using a certain seasonal emote called er...welcome? <-- this one. And then angling the camera so that it looks like you're holding it.

[minor falcon]

it's not like I'll bust out portrait mode for a quick run on my commute, the controls kill the convenience (mini ver of two handed on portrait anyone?? )

[sullen relic]

portrait mode is super weird because the control stick to move overlaps with the flight button -- i literally can't imagine how you can control your direction and flap/jump at the same time without two thumbs

it kind of works, but it's so weird going in from a two-handed control scheme (yes, even weirder than one-handed landscape controls)

[tender oasis]

I have a question if you don’t mind. So i usually do cr with big groups and we noticed that moth bug is way more frequent if there is 3+ ppl doing handholding. With our usual 8 it’s a common thing to have (every second gate almost). We tried once that we all released hands and went through gates like that at the same time, and nobody got any moth bug this way through forest. Does handholding have any effect on the way the servers do the communication or it was just pure luck nobody got the bug? ( sorry if it’s messy i’m not native in english and have no clue about game dev but i tried to explain it as much as i could tho😅)

[late mountain]

Hmm, that's good information. Sounds like it would be good for a bug report Pakka

[minor falcon]

maybe as you go through one-by-one/not holding hands it gives the server more time to catch everyone def good bug report material!

[hollow compass]

Oooh, that does sound like a clue!

[tender oasis]

Yeah we plan to do it again as a double check before i send a report but we had some afk friends in the group the last 2 days and didnt got a single moth bug yesterday in beta after update so im not sure how valid is it just yet.

[minor falcon]

I'd imagine with more people in a hand hold group it's just more info the server needs to keep track of during transitions from one area to the next which might trip it up and somehow lead to

[hollow compass]

In earlier days holding hands with a friend didn't always guarantee you went through a transition together. Could it be that this feature has now been strengthened, but in turn it creates the moth bug?

[tender oasis]

I’m pretty new in beta (sanctuary) so i don’t know that, but this sounds interesting (also poor afk friends we drag around frequently in that case ). I thought about trying this with piggy stack too since that separates us too after entering gates. if anyone does it that way before i can pls tell me how it worked.

[gilded parrot]

@tender oasis, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.

[minor falcon]

haven't had moth bug issues with piggy stacks more organized testing required

[buoyant geyser]

is the new flying feature was beta only?
because in live, i can fly with closed wing mode in the clouds

[minor falcon]

the toggleable flight controls are in live as well

[buoyant geyser]

ohhh its already updated in live? gosh didnt now

[minor falcon]

#news message here's the info!

[dense whale]

/wait a second

/how did we not have to update? what sort of witchcraft is this

[minor falcon]

no new content, just a change to some code that restricted the toggle maybe

[late mountain]

Ktjn explained it earlier today, I don't have the link to find it though, sorry.

[dense whale]

/aaah half of my brain told me that they updated the game through super natural deep honking

[late mountain]

Ah, here is in @dense whale #beta-discussion message

Read around there a bit if you want the full explanation over a few posts
There's also a discussion on the new cosy corner coming soon ^^

[dense whale]

/aaah omy you didnt have to fetch it for me...uh. ... THANKS!

[late mountain]

All good, I remembered a key phrase so was able to search it up for you Hopefully that helps explain it!

[dense whale]

/yea it did thank you. wasnt witchcraft tho haha

[late mountain]

I was pretty shocked too, that seemed like the logical solution.

[dense whale]

/aaaah sometimes my brain freezes and then i realize people are really nice around here and now my brain stops functioning

[late mountain]

Aww, yeah I love how nice people tend to be here.

[fiery sun]

@drifting mauve regarding your message in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived, isnt that still in beta? if you have something in mind about things in Beta, send it to #beta-feedback. putting anything from Beta in Live might get you muted or something

[hollow compass]

I'm doing the fire trial right now and got to the third part. I honestly don't understand what it is I'm supposed to be doing here. There is a lot of rumbling sound, which I assume are the krill shadows? But when wearing headphones it's not possible to tell which direction they are coming from, so I can't avoid them. Do I just run around blindly lighting candles until I find a way out?

Also, are the three candles together meant to be safe spots?

[left dragon]

for the current existing ts system tho, by adjusting the price, it's trying to find a sweet point that balance between two opinions:
new players that came late but still wanting cosmetics from past season
old players that paid effort and real money on getting those cosmetics and unwilling to see their value been decreased

putting a higher price would probably prevent new players from even thinking about getting cosmetics from ts, which is probably not the reason for introducing the system in the first place
@/cjx10#7287 I don't understand the problem with old players. I really won't mind for new players to get the cosmetics later. After all they are getting a specific item at least from 4 months up to a year+ later. Those 10 dollars we pay -- if we discuss the concept -- we give for ability to get the items 4-18 months earlier

So are there really old players existing who mind later ability to get "paid" items for free??

Sorry for sensitive topic and large text quotation

[hollow compass]

Apparently, yes. These old players might not be on this server, since it doesn't seem to be a common opinion here. It can be feedback TGC got in private or through other channels. I think TGC wants to find a good balance here, so as not to upset too many people.

[drifting mauve]

@fiery sun
uh-oh didn't think that through,
thought it would be fine, since it's eventually about taking it to live version
but if it's the case ill just have to delete it
thanks for your concern!

[left dragon]

I honestly don't even know how they going to find the balance

[random gull]

Yall telling me to sneep at midnight and I see ktjn up at 1am their time is 5 hours enough sneep?

[dense whale]

/no i can tell

[simple bobcat]

Belpita, in the 3rd part of fire Yes you kind of have to go around lighting candles until you find the exit, or at least that's what I've lived every time I managed to pass the first part of the 2nd level and get there

[left dragon]

Why u still here, not sleeping

[hollow compass]

aw, I saw Ktjn's message candle at the beginning of fire trial, btw.

[late mountain]

Yall telling me to sneep at midnight and I see ktjn up at 1am their time :LOL: is 5 hours enough sneep?
Kaiiiiii You're meant to get like 8 hours.

[hollow compass]

I'm sorry, I really don't think fire trial is well-designed.

[left dragon]

Idk it's everytime easy for me🙈

[hollow compass]

But in the third part there is just a constant rumble. I get about 3-5 candle away from the checkpoint and then I die. How do I proceed? It makes no sense to me.

[left dragon]

Panic jumping
Usually 1,5-2 jumps will get u to the next candle

[hollow compass]

I don't understand what you mean. I can't find which direction to go, because I just die all the time.

[left dragon]

Oh. Try zooming out and looking from the top. May be this will help
Lemme actually try fire this week. Brb

[hollow compass]

Tbh, the problem with fire trials' third part is that you after having died a gazillion times you just lose patience and start running around "in panic", because it's...boring and repetitive.

Is there any way to avoid the shadows at all now? I remember you used to be able to side-step to keep you light.

[random gull]

I just backread like 5 hours worth of conversation and but also now I wanna find ktjns fire trial message candle (how do you know it's ktjn )

[hollow compass]

It had her name on it...um, because we're friends in the game. 😅

[random gull]

Brb following blep around now

[hollow compass]

[late mountain]

I just backread like 5 hours worth of conversation and but also now I wanna find ktjns fire trial message candle (how do you know it's ktjn )
Aww
Also will send my invite soon ^^

Edit: Clydeeeeeee let my emotes worrkkkkkkk
Double Edit: There.

[dense whale]

/hey questions howw many players are there in beta?

[hollow compass]

seriously, I'm friends with basically all the Elders and some Shepherds on the server, simply because we're old beta players

[dense whale]

/who's clyde?

[kindred fossil]

like 30k testers last i remember? but only a handful active few

[random gull]

There's about 5k beta testers I think. Not all active though. And clyde is the discord bot for system bot things

[tender oasis]

I might be wrong but i remember around 14 k probably a lot abandoned beta by now i think

[stark sundial]

lol so many different answers

[dense whale]

/wha- that's a heck of a lot really? as big as my granny's town

[kindred fossil]

5... 5k?

[late mountain]

Clyde is the discord bot who sends you private messages saying things like (this emote is nitro only) but then if it sees only one nitro emote it forgets to make the rest show up I can use the rest clyde, help meeee

[dense whale]

/hey you guys, can one of you ask ktjn about this if it's okay to ask them? i really want to know

[random gull]

I don't remember where I got 5k but now that I think about it I think it was 5k each ios and android. Again can't recall where I heard that tho

[tender oasis]

#beta-discussion message

Found it haha
Why do i remember things like this but not important ones.🥺

[dense whale]

/ahhhh coool thank you!

[kindred fossil]

i must've mistaken 30k testers pre-sanctuary, then

[hollow compass]

ok, I am truly stuck in fire trial: is there a pattern to the krill shadows?

[tender oasis]

There is i would say try to follow them when they passe spot until the do.

[kindred fossil]

i memorized the pattern of the candles, i just brute force my way through...

[hollow compass]

I can't follow them, they are coming from the opposite direction. This part is so confusing.

[random gull]

I'll be honest I just kept going in circles until I found candles I hadn't lit yet and then suddenly checkpoint and I was done

[hollow compass]

I give up.

[tender oasis]

I can go with u around late afternoon/night today if you'd like. I'm not a pro in fire but managed to find my way out a few times by now. (Which took around 40 mins the first 2 times )

[kindred fossil]

i can take you too, whenever

[hollow compass]

Is it ok to say that I think it's a bad design if you just run around in circles for an hour without understanding where to go or how to avoid dying? Or am I really that bad at this game? Actually, I'll add: how long is the average player expected to try this challenge until they understand what they are suppose to do?

[tender oasis]

I don't think u are bad at it. I mean i'm just stupid enough to run around for 40 mins until i somehow manage to get out. But it shouldn't take that long in the first place for anyone. I don't like the fire trial either not becuse I can't do it but because its not interesting enough with it's repetitiveness.

[random gull]

TBH I am just directionally challenged (I get lost in malls) so I thought that was just me

[hollow compass]

I have excellent map reading ability, but this is just running around in the dark trying to find random candles and then inexplicably dying.

[late mountain]

I think its the combination of darkness and multiple paths that get me, of course with the constant death from the wisps.

[hollow compass]

That's the part I don't get: how am I suppose to be able to work out the way, if I keep dying whenever I'm doing progress and then have to restart all the way back at the checkpoint, until I've lit almost all candles around me and thus not created any clear path at all?

[tender oasis]

The logic must be : If u die enough and do the same path again and again you will surely remember it where to go (which I don't, cause i usually remember landmarks, which is not really a possibility in the dark )

[left dragon]

I have excellent map reading ability, but this is just running around in the dark trying to find random candles and then inexplicably dying.
@/cloudberry 🌈#5443 same to this. Im very good at maps. Now I finished fire trial and can just tell that candles can be behind the wall. Try to stand at the last lit candle and turn your camera around. Eventually u will find a candle

[hollow compass]

I do understand the idea of the trial: light candles to find your way, die a few times to learn the pattern of the shadows, but also remember which way you went.
However, after having died a million times and lit all those candles you're so confused about direction and timing, nothing makes sense anymore.

It's not like that Greek myth...the Ariadne thread. Because there is no visible thread here.

[sullen relic]

the darkness is part of the problem, but it's also the walls in the darkness obscuring paths and candles such that you don't realise what's actually around you spatially (it's different from the earth maze in the sense that you can clearly see where all the walls are in the earth trial, whereas with fire trial, you don't know for sure if you're looking at dark space or a structure blocking your view)

[left dragon]

There are dead ends too now

[wooden raptor]

Hi, in my first fire trial, i died and lost my sense of direction and had no idea where i was going so i got frustrated and left the trial. BUT once i kept trying, i started to memorize the path. And now i don't think it as an evil trial. It is surely hard to find your way in the dark but i guess that's the struggle it aims to give

[tender oasis]

Ariadne is such a fitting metaphore

[left dragon]

After all by level of hardness it was 3 out of ten for me before updates and now it's 6

[late mountain]

I feel like what got me most was losing track of direction after a few deaths. When there's three ways to go and all of them have been lit sometimes I find myself going backwards

[wooden raptor]

I feel like what got me most was losing track of direction after a few deaths. When there's three ways to go and all of them have been lit sometimes I find myself going backwards
@late mountain Same harbin first few times were painful but then it got easier on my part 😅

[left dragon]

I can help if anyone need it

[late mountain]

I'm planning to test a little tonight so hope to try it out then ^^

[hollow compass]

ok, I've tried going to the left and end up in a corner, I tried left then right and that also doesn't seem to lead anywhere. Am I suppose to go forward and through a small passage?

[left dragon]

Yes
I mean for me small passages always been a continuation of the road

[hollow compass]

but there is always a shadow there, regadless of how I try to time myself

[left dragon]

Just wait for it to leave then go fast
While waiting for it to pass, stay 2 candles before the small passages

Or if you are in the second map, 3 candle groups are the safe spot ultimately. In my experience

[hollow compass]

it's not possible, because I have to stop at each light to regain my life

[left dragon]

You can skip-jump. Don't be afraid. It can take few tries but more tries than regaining life at every candle while there is a threat of confronting you lorax

[hollow compass]

um, I think I just went backwards? I ended up at an already lit shrine.

[left dragon]

Possible. When I die and appear at checkpoint I appear facing the correct path. I think its the game that automatically faces you the correct way after death

[sullen relic]

some forks will rejoin later on, forming loops, yeah
my earlier attempt a few hours ago relied more on having a general sense of direction of where to go, which really isn't something a player newly exposed to the trial can rely on until after a few attempts

[hollow compass]

ok, so I am stuck at the 2nd checkpoint

[left dragon]

That's why trials don't go anywhere) so to have enough time to practice

Do you need help? Or you just practice. I remember there was an annoying point where the next one was far away

[hollow compass]

I kind of don't think a regular player will have this much patience. I'm doing this "for science" in beta. But in Live I would never spend...what is it now...more than an hour trying to complete this.

[sullen relic]

are you at the second checkpoint of the third area?

[hollow compass]

yes

[left dragon]

Oooh that's alot... An hour...Probably it can be too hard. But you don't have to finish it to get any cosmetic so it's not a limiting step. Also I like a challenge in the only game in the world that interested me

That doesn't help you...
But I can join anytime

[hollow compass]

Oh, I don't mind challenges or these trials per se. I'm just trying to see this from a more casual player's point of view. So many already struggle and gave up, feeling inadequate, with the air trial.

[sullen relic]

that was one of the stumbling points for me as well: i remember the way forward being quite concealed behind a narrow corridor that's quite hard to miss if you're looking from the wrong camera angle (you won't see the unlit candle or the way forward easily, which causes you to pass right by it without realising the path forks)

[left dragon]

Which point are you talking about?

[sullen relic]

the way to the third checkpoint in the third area (where you get an open field of white candles going in all kinds of paths)

[hollow compass]

it's also very confusing that you seem to half-die, with your light flickering and THEN you die properly

[left dragon]

Also in the second part by the end I made a hook while the straight path available. The one candle was hidden(
3 candles path vs 15 candles

[hollow compass]

I can see three candles ahead, then there is an opening to the left and I've lit lots of candles that way. Is that the right direction?

[sullen relic]

if there's an opening with an unlit candle, search it; i can't say for sure without seeing what you're seeing

[hollow compass]

oh, blimey, I found the checkpoint!

[left dragon]

Yes that's right. Its the only direction which is also confusing

[sullen relic]

congrats, that was pretty much the last "hard" part for me -- i only remember it being very linear from here, though they challenge your jumps a bit by spacing the candles out more

[left dragon]

I wonder if anyone will be able to map that on paper like other trials on wiki

[hollow compass]

I will never remember where to go, I can guarantee you that. Nope, sorry, fire trial gets the lowest grade from me.

[left dragon]

But you are good at maps...

[sullen relic]

i think that's the main challenge of the fire trial now, ever since the corridor of death in the second part got adjusted

[kindred fossil]

the pattern that pops into my head is up, left, left, up, then the path to the third checkpoint is clear enough

[left dragon]

Where is the up part? You move on the groud
Oh right sorry

[kindred fossil]

as in forward, lol

[hollow compass]

OMG, the funniest thing happened when I turned off my headphones. Somehow I managed to activate the music app, or it's some weird iPhone's bug that happens sometimes, but Gravity Rush 2 started playing "Endestria", which is so fitting for the end area in fire trial.

[kindred fossil]

it's a sign

[left dragon]

I wish I knew it so to laugh at the reference but I'm sure it's funny

[hollow compass]

But why does iPhone do that sometimes, just randomly start playing music from the music app? It's super spooky! The app isn't even active!

[left dragon]

May be you clicked a button on headphones

[sullen relic]

do your headphones have a "play" button? randomly hitting anything that may send a "play" command will do that

[left dragon]

It can be in music app settings

[sullen relic]

i think there may have been motion commands that'd do things with the music app as well

[hollow compass]

I don't know, I have one of those fancy noise cancelling ones from Sony. I don't think it has a Play button, like my old UrbanEars did.

[late mountain]

Whoa, you spin in beta now when you deep call while flying

[left dragon]

They supposed to have sensors so sensor command combined with the app features could have done that

[kindred fossil]

#beta-screenshots-videos message comparisons

[hollow compass]

Oh, well. Go play Gravity Rush! Haha. Shameless plugging.

Urgh, I need some fresh air now.

[kindred fossil]

go to the air trial

[hollow compass]

Lol, I breezed through that one yesterday!

[left dragon]

Be aware of candy trial

[random gull]

I died a lot still in air because I'm bad at flying science

[left dragon]

Kai, what time is it for you?🤌

[kindred fossil]

i was just starting to get the hang of current air trial's difficulty, then this update came

[hollow compass]

Controller, my friends, controller is the way. (Sadly.)

[random gull]

7:37am. I been awake since like 6:30

[left dragon]

Controller, my friends, controller is the way. (Sadly.)
@cloudberry 🌈#5443 we had to think about wings and camera direction. Now the third button joined the game

[random gull]

Cozy chat is open and is already chaos. But so wholesome

[kindred fossil]

about to go to the fire trial, anyone can join i guess

[left dragon]

Good luck

[late mountain]

Okay I made it through the fire trial with a friend I made along the way but relatively solo. I think stage three with multiple paths can get a bit confusing but all in all I love it. Even if it is spooky and certainly a challenge

[kindred fossil]

finished in 13 minutes :v

[oak berry]

You what

[kindred fossil]

i don't think it feels any different, i don't think i struggled that much before the update

[oak berry]

I only struggled cause I stopped going through it constantly and forgot the way

[random gull]

I am amazed by the speedy people I'm either dying a lot because it's funny or getting lost

[kindred fossil]

i have the candles memorized haha, i get lost sometimes but that's rare

[oak berry]

The only landmark I have recognized is the narrow corridor in the second section

[late mountain]

Yeah getting lost was the worst bit for me. I feel like if I lit all the candles I saw it could be even worse

[oak berry]

Like when I did the trial before this update I got so excited seen that I was progressing

[left dragon]

True

[limpid herald]

They seemed to buff the darkness orbs. I do like this change but it is kinda overkill for solo players

Multiple routes is definitely a great pro for the challenge imo

[vagrant shard]

What did it mean by they fixed the table glitch? Does this mean we cant move the people that high five us?

[final wasp]

hm. not sure

[oak berry]

They fixed table teleport if you're wondering

[valid terrace]

Cosy general is very nice, great chilled atmosphere

[hollow jay]

So they didn't completely fix the table teleport?
#beta-bugs-ios message

[random gull]

I was kinda hoping yall wouldn't see me bug reporting ios XD that was riiiiiiiiigt after the update and is now fixed. that bug report is part of why iw as given bonfire to try and replicate it

[hollow jay]

I remember reading about this trick doesn't work on the table owners now? but it still works on others who sat at the table once ?🤔

[gilded parrot]

is everyone up to modschief?

[random gull]

it's completely fixed now. I tried a number of different ways and the chat items will no longer teleport at all no matter how you manipulate the menu. You can still move consenting friends with the table but you can't teleport

[hollow jay]

Thanks Treblemaika

[slim kayak]

Good morning!
Took a look in bug reports and there are still people reporting an empty shop

[tiny umbra]

Merry I thought troublemaika was a new Halloween nickname for Kai not a typo

[desert mango]

Thankyou for testing , it’s nice to know innocent peeps will not 🐝 teleported without consent 🤍

[random gull]

isn't it in the FAQ at this point? (lyze my user is TrebleMaika it's a play on trouble maker. treble as in the music staff and maika being a mashup of japanese words for child of music and dance)

[tiny umbra]

Like heartbreika

[hollow jay]

nice. Heartbreika can be my new nickname

[slim kayak]

Oooo clever!
my name is just... slapped 'wind' into Google translate and see which language gives me the coolest one

But my username is something I mashed together years ago

[random gull]

it unfortunately leads people to think I'm female on a lot of online games and just but sky peeps super respect they/them for me. the whole conversation about me while I was gone I think even the people mad at me used the right pronouns

[tiny umbra]

Lol I think heartbreika is reika’s Twitter handle thou

[random gull]

yall did not see that horrible typo

[dense whale]

/it's okay kai i use the equivilent of they in my language when i think about you

/it's the same word as BIG friend btw, in case anyone curious :V

[hollow compass]

my username originates from a Monty Python sketch

[oak berry]

Mine went from way to long to this, mainly cause I just threw in a word

[tiny umbra]

My user came from needing to find a good httyd tumblr username back in 2015 (ive mentioned it before but it runs pretty deep)

[dense whale]

/oh yea fun fact the alt i use sometimes that goes by stormybuffalo is actually a pun on my real name, and uh, i have the equivilent of mary where im from

[late mountain]

My user name came because I have like hundreds of roleplay characters I adore and in doing so I’ve seen a lot of different names. Harbin just seemed to stick for my sky kiddo.

Also I sneep now Goodnight, no one look up my timezone

[hollow compass]

wait, my username originates from a typo
looks pointedly at Kai

[random gull]

Yall know zi can't type oml AGAIN

[oak berry]

zi

[hollow compass]

zi strikes again!

You know, I kind of almost maybe want to try fire trial again... Please talk be out of it.

[random gull]

Take me with you! after work because afk in the fire trial is a bad idea

[left dragon]

I feel like I'm the only one here who's first interaction with game community is thru Sky, because no other game interested me for more than 1 week. (I play Sky since 16th of June)

Your nicknames are certainly unique and authentic

[copper bison]

my username used to be something else, but i do not like that username anymore and i cringe upon thinking of it. skykidneon explains itself. but i added kai into it so it became skaikidneon. (aaa my internet died-)

[hollow compass]

I should be working, but writing product specs is so boring, help

[random gull]

I'll trade blep wanna take phone calls and data entry?

[copper bison]

sky is the first discord server i actually actively participate in chatting in. every other server i joined and i said like 2 words in there. beta is definitely the reason for that, otherwise i probably would of quit sky much faster and would of never said more than 2 words here.

[hollow compass]

I do not talk on the phone. I play games on the phone and maybe send text messages.

[left dragon]

Yes. This community is so clean. Im grateful for this wholesome experience

[oak berry]

I'm trying to think of spooky pun names for my nickname here but I cant think of anything

[gilded parrot]

it do be like that doe

[copper bison]

skybot is getting more sentient by the day

[radiant drum]

Especially with the addition of the new channel, let’s try to keep this channel about beta-related topics please

It makes me incredibly happy you all find comfort in our server

[hollow compass]

there is a new channel? 👀

[radiant drum]

I can’t type

#cozy-sky-discussion

[copper bison]

yeah, #cozy-sky-discussion

[left dragon]

Ooooh ok

[hollow compass]

I tried talking about the fire trial. But really, I should sign out and continue working for another hour-ish. Byeeee!

[radiant drum]

Many of us don’t feel comfortable chatting in a fast-paced channel like gen chat, and it can be quite frustrating to try and have an actual conversation there. We hope the new channel serves as a calm place where people can have those nice conversations that often take place in this chat for being slower

[desert mango]

The new channel -It’s a very thoughtful idea ..as a community in here is like home ,even if I don’t talk much -it’s very comforting how nice and welcoming it’s become 🤍

[hollow cloak]

Had a nice sleep, I'm ready to do fire trial today

I was trying to find evidence that my cat had stolen my eraser last night but I wanted to honor my promise to Kai

[livid ridge]

Aw man, the table trick don't work anymore, right guys? Or is it just me

[kindred fossil]

it no longer works, it's been patched

[livid ridge]

Aw sad

[dapper ginkgo]

But some people are saying that it still works? At least when the build was released.

[livid acorn]

IT ᗪOEᔕ?

[random gull]

Tiki I was one of those. it might have been an issue with android getting the update over an hour after ios did. I don't actually know whether the person who teleported me with bonfire then was android or ios. I was on ios on the latest update. but yesterday and this morning it wasn't working

[left dragon]

That sure was spooky

[random gull]

did a search in ios and android beta bugs channel. the person who teleported me was ios too well it worked after the patch for an hour at least but yesterday if 100% was not working no matter what I tried so it's fully fixed now

[drifting mauve]

saaaad so saaaaaad

[random gull]

you can still manipulate the table with the help of a friend to go out of bounds. you just can't teleport with it anymore. basically they wanted to stop trolls from teleporting people without consent. so our OOB trick which requires the friend to be knowledgably participating is still good

[gilded parrot]

KRILL!! BEHIND YOU!! Ahaaa didn’t expect you to fall for my trick!

[left dragon]

1st level

[copper bison]

skybot-
what-

[random gull]

skybot just likes me I did have to think about that for a second like wait I'm not playing sky there can't be a krill

[drifting mauve]

oh well, lucky it isn't worse
i used to go oobing or cr alone with the table but now, farewell fun stuffs

[pale sapphire]

I got shepherd on beta :””D its fun seeing all the moth signs and helping run them

[copper bison]

my shepherd rank is probably dead by now

and i worked a month for it too

[left dragon]

What generally should increase it? I know there are no criteria but still what should I aim for

[random gull]

none of us have any idea. our best guesses are being active player and interacting with other players (especially new ones). I got it like within 48 hours of joining beta and had no idea why

[potent heron]

It feels like mine went up when I lead people around but I really have no clue

[random gull]

mine went up just holding poeple's hands and being a battery pack after my meter went down that one time I went awol from beta for like 2 weeks it really is mysterious. I think the purpose originally when non-shepherds could see the shepherd symbol was just to tell others you were likely to be a friendly/helpful player. now it just shows the shepherds a moth symbol and nobody knows you're a shepherd unless you announce it so the badge may be for the helpful players to recognize who's new. seems like we'll be testing it for quite a while with it being a back burner issue compared to new seasons, bugs, and switch release

I think the badge being removed from other's view was because of some people seeing the badge as a trophy to collect rather than an icon showing you like being friendly to others I think that also may be part of why it got back burner'd because it does kinda divide players up a bit even if the idea was wholesome means to help new players. 50 million downloads means those chances of people taking it in a different context are higher.

[hollow cloak]

About to do fire trial... None of my friends are on, so looks like I'm going alone

[oak berry]

good luck!

[random gull]

sorry I'm at work I do kinda wanna go play one handed mode in the trials later if my afternoon doesn't get too hectic today

[hollow cloak]

Thank you
No problem Kai, don't get in trouble at work

[random gull]

I can sneak on discord easily sky'd a little harder unless I'm afk with phone in desk drawer. Pakka do be cool sometimes and drag my afk butt on candle runs to feed my friending addiction kinda running out of beta kids to do that to though

[hollow cloak]

I haven't been in the trial for a while and I'm just like
Oh it's really dark
OH I FORGOT MY LIGHT RUNS OUT
RUN!

I know the candle clusters are safe, but the light meter flickering is giving me a headache so I want to stay away from the safe points
I'm probably going to leave feedback later...

I'm lost... I think I just walked back to the beginning of the second section

[left dragon]

Keep going. U can do it

[hollow cloak]

I found my way again, on to the third section!
I looked back at the second section from above, and it seems like the branching section at the end actually winds up in the same place...? Like, the candles just make a loop before the final checkpoint

[left dragon]

Yes!!!! I saw that too. Was frustrating a lil

[hollow cloak]

My eyes hurt from staring into the darkness. Taking a small break

[left dragon]

How is it going

[tiny umbra]

Has anyone else experienced server connection issues with friends in wasteland specifically ? I’m thinking of reporting it but I don’t often run with friends in beta so it’s only happened in live. But if it’s already fixed I wouldn’t need to

[hollow cloak]

I wish I could help but it looks like beta has hit that point when friends disappear because the hype is gone

[tiny umbra]

Smh it’s always wasteland, took half an hour to gather everyone after the boat trip to the ark and we all got split after the battlefield gate opened like twice now

[random gull]

When I'm running in large groups I've noticed the leader will sometimes randomly get server split and literally everyone else stays while we're all holding hands but that happens in other areas too

[lunar zealot]

The server splits is scary. The few times it has happened to me in beta- it scares me

[tiny umbra]

I would say it’s spotty connection but it’s happened with three separate friends who live in different places, kept disappearing, they warp back, disappear again, I’m just here as a save point so we don’t need to start the level again oof
I’ll report it in the live channel just in case, I don’t know If they caught it in beta
Always wasteland

[hollow cloak]

me, lighting every candle in sight in the third part of Fire Trial: boy, that sure is a lot of candles with no checkpoint

[valid terrace]

If/when I become a tester, I’m thinking of taking physical notes

[tiny umbra]

Soap you mighta went past a checkpoint if you haven’t been finding them I found at least two just frolicking there in 14 minutes
Lol I kept a google doc before prophecy, but by the time I got around to reporting it it was already fixed and/or it was a new build so

[random gull]

that's a good idea voluntary! I cannot tell you how many times I took a screenshot to bug report and then forgot to go bug report it I've been here for almost 7 months I should know better

[left dragon]

My star spell for tp to isle temple still not working. Was it fixed in beta?

[random gull]

you can teleport yourself but friends don't come with you last I checked. so that one's still kinda buggy since I think your friends are supposed to come with you? lemme go read the description again on the shop

[left dragon]

They have to go with u. But I didn't test it with my friends. Only alone

[tiny umbra]

I have submitted exactly 13 bug reports in my time in beta i gotta do better on that

[hollow cloak]

Finished fire trial, I think it definitely is easier now if a fool like me can blunder around and still make it

[eager ferry]

Can't wait until fire trial is out on live so I can finally relate to all the cool beta kids .

[left dragon]

It took u more than an hour...)

[hollow cloak]

It didn't take me more than an hour. I stopped midway through to do other more important things.

[left dragon]

Ohkay

[tiny umbra]

The previous fire trial took me the whole day thou, an hour is sooo much better

[random gull]

I did the first iteration of the fire trial solo in like 15-20 minutes and was like why is this so easy. then they added walls and I was like oh rip to the confusing red fire trial candles

[left dragon]

Relatable. Now it takes like 20-25 minutes

[lunar zealot]

I actually did fire trial one time solo after I did it with you Kai, and it was less confusing solo. But brutal haha

[random gull]

I still laugh about how utterly blind I was that day playing outside in the sun

[hollow cloak]

Air Trial got easier, wow. Now the hardest part is trying to light the checkpoints in the middle of the wind currents

[kindred fossil]

i ignore that checkpoint, i do not see it

[slim kayak]

What are checkpoints

[hollow cloak]

fun fact, I only did the final part of air trial once because i've cheesed it every other time

[kindred fossil]

one of my short cuts got nerfed rip, no more cheese

but i'll try to find new ones

[hollow cloak]

I thought they'd patched the shortcut I used, but it's still possible. It took multiple tries, you just have to get high enough that the wind doesn't bounce you back
I noticed a potential shortcut to another part of the trial, maybe I'll try it later

[kindred fossil]

where 👀

[random gull]

I accidentally yeeted myself to the top platform, skipping the shrine where you get shiny entirely. I died anyways because the game was like what do

[kindred fossil]

i've been trying to do that on command but barely got close

there's another one that skips a good chunk of the trial (3 checkpoints) but i always failed the landing: #seasons-events-chat message

[hollow cloak]

I'm not sure how to describe the area where I shortcut and I'm trying to get the TS... Hmmm
It's high up, where you can clearly see the end of trial shrine, it's off to your right? You just hop on the little arrow thing and fly towards the shrine

Oh wow, that's a nice shortcut

[kindred fossil]

oh, this one? #seasons-events-chat message

[hollow cloak]

Yep!
I love how you have every shortcut saved

[kindred fossil]

oh that's what everyone resorts to

[zinc prawn]

I ...never thought of that

[hollow cloak]

Oh my bad, is that the noob shortcut? Are there more advanced/earlier ones

[kindred fossil]

this is the one that got nerfed: #seasons-events-chat message
i couldn't do it with the recent update

this still works: #seasons-events-chat message

[zinc prawn]

Mad respect for yall to figure that out i just do the traditional path LOL

[hollow cloak]

Ah yes, that's the jump I take longest on
Maybe sometime I'll see if I can do it, probably not if Air Master Dark can't though

[random gull]

I am chaotic in beta and do things that I shouldn't do in live like get myself stuck inside a wall in earth trial

[kindred fossil]

i'm an air bender now

[zinc prawn]

I wish i could do more but i dont have a table yet on beta
i can be a cheeb tho

[random gull]

I wasn't even chibi when I got stuck in the wall. my normal height is just smol enough to randomly fall through floors unintentionally

but man if I could use my table in the trials I would have climbed up the wall in fire trial and just sat up there mocking the fluffies XD

[zinc prawn]

my days on beta earth trial consisted of me just falling through all the block platforms

[kindred fossil]

dust krills also hover above you, they'll catch you

[random gull]

they got rid of the hole in the platform at the end of erath trial you could jump through after you got shiny and die XD I tried many times to see if you could jump off anywhere else and it won't let you

[copper bison]

early water trial i didn't realise i wasn't supposed to jump into the water and just ran into the water about 3 times before i realised "wait a second-"

ikea mattress ice bricks

[zinc prawn]

ME jdxjxj,

[random gull]

nice name Kai. and also same I was like oh this looks easy and ran straight forward and died

[zinc prawn]

When the water trial first came out on beta I completed it with ease then i dont think i ever tried it again after that one time. Once the trial came out to live i was like “wait a min...why is this hard “

[hollow cloak]

If people could bring items into the trials, all of the bonfire folk would have a huge advantage
And yeah, honestly the Ikea mattresses were better - quality assurance made sure they wouldn't rotate in the water

[random gull]

I have also tried to take shortcuts that don't work when you are smol and at one point I was like "fine I guess I'll take the intended path like a pleb"

[zinc prawn]

I genuinely can see a group of people building a table bridge in the air trial until they reach the top

[oak berry]

when water first came out instead of going the intended path i tried to go to the left for roughly 3 minutes

[random gull]

I think the person that witnessed me doing that has left the server tho indirectly because of me

[copper bison]

ghosts were keeping kai awake was because i didn't sleep stayed up really late. i decided to change it to thatkaikrill cause it was more halloweenish

[kindred fossil]

i've seen a really impressive run of the water trial somewhere on twitter...

[random gull]

if it's the one I'm thinking of dark I tried that shortcut XD when tall it works, when smol it does not it's like under a 1 minute speed run

[zinc prawn]

Some people are just parkour madlads

[random gull]

I parkour and then die for science

[zinc prawn]

Me struggling to jump on sky: pain
Me thinking about playing sky on the switch when it’s available:

[random gull]

can't land on a darkness plant to save my life but I can one shot the earth trial sometimes

[zinc prawn]

Darkness plant is the hardest trial of them all obviously

I vividly remember last night falling off the edge of the plant like 50 times before i can even start burning the leaves- then my friend afking at the bottom so im just stuck there

[hollow cloak]

I've played Sky on a Switch controller before, and let me tell you... Chibi glitching is so much easier
Flying is harder though, less dramatic movements - you can't collect that one light in the flying race

[random gull]

I burned the sanctuary one really smoothly on beta once (cuz like nobody to burn it for ya) and stood there getting attacked by crabs for a solid minute like how did I do that

[zinc prawn]

Ive only burned sanctuary plant a few times but it was always gone before i got to it on live

Respecc to the ones who work hard and burn it for us all

[random gull]

50 million plus downloads so there's always people burning it on live. and sanctuary server always merges just because sanctuary is so big

[zinc prawn]

Yep, I really cant process how wacky the plant is placed though, cant stand on them correctly so if im cheeb, i cant reach the leaves

[random gull]

some of them even tal players have to kinda flap up and down a couple times to burn

[tiny umbra]

speaking of, does anyone actually know how to burn the sanctuary plant? It's almost always merged unless it isnt and thats cause the server is completely empty, You gotta learn how to burn the battlefield and graveyard plants but sanctuary??

[fresh quiver]

I haven't gone back to sanctuary in a while so I don't actually know what the big plant looks like

[zinc prawn]

You just need a few people , one standing at the bottom and others taking one of the sides to start burning it down, faster that way with more peeps

[kindred fossil]

it's very annoying to burn because of the wind gusts, you end up hitting your head on the ceiling times too many

[random gull]

yeah the updraft is super offputting

[hollow cloak]

It's possible to stand on the plant leaves that are vertical, though it's a very difficult balance

[zinc prawn]

Its like any other big plant but there are leaves that are vertically places on the ends so it’s a little more difficult if you are smol or just cant land on them

My sky kid isnt tall or the default height, so i struggle with being smol

[hollow cloak]

Since I'm usually on my own for candle runs, I've learned how to use the ledge detection jumping to my advantage to save wing flaps... Helps a lot with burning plants

[random gull]

I think I'll record a video next time my group goes to sanctuary and put it in #beta-screenshots-videos for yall

[tiny umbra]

And then theres the crabs oof
I'm a solo runner too but usually that plant is burned by the time I get there, except for a few times back a little bit ago when the plants kept popping up after you burned them

[zinc prawn]

Just a few honks and they wont bother ya anymore

[hollow cloak]

The Sanctuary plant usually isn't burned for me... I never seem to merge with anyone on beta
I've only burned it a few times, usually I have to keep moving because I'm alone

[zinc prawn]

Beta would be much nicer if i had active friends there to test out stuff , but im not exactly always active either

[hollow cloak]

I feel you suki, I don't have many active friends either

[random gull]

I mean I have been dragged on beta candle runs while my phone was in my work desk so I can't exactly say I'm always active either

[zinc prawn]

At least you attended to those candle runs,

[hollow cloak]

I limit my time to one hour per day because otherwise I'd play too much, although that does make it difficult to meet people
I'm on every day though, if only to do quests

[kindred fossil]

QR code party

[zinc prawn]

Anyway, I have some work to do so I’ll be going for now! See y’all later

[lunar zealot]

Candle runs.. in beta?! I haven’t gone on one in ages. Maybe I should though. Might find some funny bugs who knows

[zinc prawn]

laughs in not doing candle runs in beta or live

[tiny umbra]

candle runs to get potions to substitute for chibi mask and table specific bugs

[hollow cloak]

All of my graphics glitches were because I did candle runs, areas would sometimes glitch and sometimes not
I'll exchange QRs as long as you don't ask me to get online a lot, I need to make sure I don't spend too much time on Sky

edit: i don't ask people for qrs because i have this strange irrational fear of linking game accounts to external accounts but you guys are pretty cool, so i'm willing to

[zinc prawn]

(I dont mind exchanging qrs with anyone! Id appreciate the beta friends ) aight time to poof for reals

[kindred fossil]

figured out a new skip for air trial posted in #beta-screenshots-videos

[left dragon]

Ok that's good news

The pumpkin+anubis mask actually look good together

[kindred fossil]

oh, i think i went through a short death loop
also i found another

[tiny umbra]

So just to clarify, live has been in the same build since the air trial came out right?

[hollow compass]

Yes. Except they added the flight toggle without an actual patch update.

[slim kayak]

Just finished fire! And the 2nd level was so much easier. The 3rd was pretty much the same? Didn't notice any changes there.

[spark lance]

Sameee i did it yesterday and the only change for me was that lvl 2 was easy...I did get confused in lvl 3 still

[tender oasis]

So fire trial conclusions for today

• It is easier now to solo, safe candles are marked
• Piggy is not immortal anymore at all (we did it with 2 and 4, no difference if fluffy goes through u(
• Handholding and piggy charges u equally so you can walk throug the whole trial without lighting a single candle or checkpoint if you don't go through a fluff.
  -After Sitting on shrine + becoming shiny and warping back to friends into the previous room wont make you immune to the other level's fluffies. You wilk still die, and they won't explode into sparkles.
  

[kindred fossil]

oh you can warp to previous room? i tried going back there manually by walking to the edge but i fell instead (don't attempt this if you want to keep your eyesight)

there's a gap you can't jump over, but you'll see the previous room

[tender oasis]

Yes its possible to warp back. Someone correct me pls but we were able to go back to previous rooms right? When was it removed?

[kindred fossil]

i don't think we were ever able to...?

[tender oasis]

Really? Hmm for some reason i remember i could gi back between 1-2 and 2-3 but my nemory is not something anyone should trust.

[kindred fossil]

honestly that never crossed my mind

[vapid briar]

Hi @blazing cargo Apologies for the cold ping, we received a bug report regarding missing seasonal hearts. Is this a new issue or related to this bug https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/760930390512238644 that was fixed a few weeks ago or a brand new problem on the latest build (156285)?

If this is a new issue you're experiencing, could you please DM your Sky ID to @hardy carbon so the team can investigate further?

[icy falcon]

you could warp to friends between rooms, could also rocket and land in previous rooms. Now you can't rocket tho and I haven't tried warping recently

[tender oasis]

Rocket no, spiral yes if you have something to jump off and you are reaaaaly quick with those icons and lucky with controls. Took me several tries to get on that little cliff at the end of the 3rd level

[icy falcon]

awesome

oh but yeah now that i'm thinking about it, i think i did walk back through the portal between rooms at some point... don't wanna confirm without trying again tho

[tender oasis]

You definitely can't do it now. Gate just ends in a hole.

[strong canopy]

Now, for what I actually popped in to ask:
Has anyone been able to replicate the menu-manipulation table shove to move a player who has not sat at your table?

We've received conflicting reports that the fix was not effective and am trying to gather more info.
no. it requires the player you would want to move to have sat at your table before

[empty inlet]

as the exciting daylight saving ending at tmr night, i still remember the massive unlimited daily candles party from last year

[mental ridge]

A quick question. Dust bunnies in the 2nd lvl of the fire trial are still supposed to make noises, right?

[tiny umbra]

Yes

[mental ridge]

Mine are giving me the silent treatment oof. Thanks!!

[gilded parrot]

Guess you’ll be getting crabs as your treats then!

[limpid herald]

I like crabs

[mental ridge]

I do too, have been very excited for my treats for the past ten minutes

[gilded parrot]

Did you collect enough treats today for the Spirits, @mental ridge?

[mental ridge]

Is the Sky bot telling me to collect crabs for the Spirits or...?

[tiny umbra]

Did you mean from the spirits, skybot ?
Or were you insinuating all our candy goes to the spirits and not us

[valid terrace]

thank you for caring about the spirits

why do so many people neglect the spirits in fan content

[tiny umbra]

Maybe it’s cause I follow mostly people who draw the spirits but I’ve only seen that shortage on this discord and the English speaking community in general

[valid terrace]

the shortage is saddening

they’re such great and important characters I cannot stress it enough

they deserve more love

@tiny umbra also please direct me to these people, I need me some spirit content

I’ll make lots

nearly every time I talk about spirits it gets overrun hhhhhhhh

[random gull]

fun fact: the rocks in eden can desync across devices too I forgot to record tho

[valid terrace]

I have 2 descendant OCs and a spirit, and I’m reluctant to develop one of them who wears the Anubis mask because I’ve seen several OCs with it

it ruins the cryptid feel I mean to go for with that one a bit

I’m only ranting here as I dunno where else to

help

[tiny umbra]

Well there’s this main Japanese artist who i adore(@/miso_misoni on twitter) and a few other spirit artists but I found some “god no” stuff on their account so I try to pretend they don’t exist anymore but they exist anyways
Do you want me to just dm you or something I’d love to scream about the spirits

[valid terrace]

My spirit is one I want to flesh out a lot but the lore is so vague

yes I know them
please DM me

[kindred fossil]

please keep it beta-related

[blissful sinew]

Is there anyone else that likes the quietness of the beta servers? Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy playing Live with my friends, but playing on Beta servers is like jumping into a completely alien world at times - not that that’s a bad thing, that is. It’s just a bit of a different experience, if you get what I mean.

[slim kayak]

yeah, i go into beta to practice my music alone, since i rarely bump into people there. as a moth in beta, i hated the quietness because my friends gushed about how friendly the community is, but i couldn't really experience that as a moth when the servers were empty. but now i like being able to go through the realms almost undisturbed.

[random gull]

I can't XD but I'm also ok with that

I am definitely not logged into beta and fall guys atthe same time ignore my discord

[slim kayak]

ultimate multitasking

[oak berry]

trying to catch up on work is hard when you want to do the updated fire trial

[slim kayak]

get a friend to piggy you through it

[random gull]

3 flaps it not enough to get up to prophecy cave don't take a moff to eden and then let them try to enter prophecy cave alone

[gilded parrot]

legend has it that ... everything will change

[exotic sentinel]

Heeelp 😭😭 I can’t login to my account 🥺🥺

[wary timber]

What happens when you try to log in?

[exotic sentinel]

Nothing just when I choose my email from google it makes me back to game but , but not singed in to any email :((

I tried to uninstall, shutdown , everything 🥺

[late mountain]

So your account isn't loading and you're a fresh moth when you log in?

[serene fern]

updoot!

[tiny umbra]

Improvements

[blissful sinew]

Update time!

[tiny umbra]

The changes are:

[serene fern]

so many update lately I am surprised :0
For some reason in my head this beta season is almost over

[austere merlin]

Ah yes improvements, thank you tgc

[serene fern]

here we go again

[jovial herald]

Here we go

[strong canopy]

someone pls check table TP 😳

[tiny umbra]

Morue sorry to say it’s been completely fixed from what I’ve heard

[strong canopy]

😳 (😢 )

[serene fern]

yep it didnt work for me just tried

[strong canopy]

hey tgc can you send me the campfire, i just wanna test sth too 🤭

[amber umbra]

Ah yes improvements, thank you tgc

[vapid briar]

[ionic bluff]

hi ktjn!

[lusty light]

Wow no bug fixes? Sky is a perfect game now

[strong canopy]

dont worry about removing it, im fine with keeping it, save you some work

(im a bit sad about seeing this bug gone for everyone but if it fixes griefing 😢 )

[tiny umbra]

Improvements to where exactly ? I didn’t do daily quests in beta yet so I might go find out

[empty river]

improvements

[serene fern]

we'll see let ktjn type the improvements

[sullen relic]

i just got spotted in golden wasteland, so must be improvements to the krill's eyesight

[vapid briar]

It might be invisible improvements to the codebase or backend things that are less about testing a specific change and more about just having players load up the servers by logging in and doing normal gameplay things. There are only a handful of QA people on staff and thousands of you all.

[sullen relic]

so should we continue focusing on the points mentioned in the previous update notes when not going about our usual activities like candle runs?

[tiny umbra]

They also gather data just from us playing the game, they might be lookin at that too

[ionic bluff]

oki so our testing for today is simply just: play the game normally?

[sullen relic]

no complaints with doing just that, i still need to finish juicing my wasteland candles

[ionic bluff]

ima go mess around with my beta character then! I love my beta kid so much I recreated him in live❤️

[tiny umbra]

There's always gonna be bugs to find, especially in beta Business as usual

[ionic bluff]

True but tgc does also say that just playing normally helps gather data, which can help them with other minor improvements that u won’t see ingame

[tiny umbra]

oh i forgot i set my ui to Portuguese, who knows maybe ill keep it, learn something with it

[ionic bluff]

beta takes like 400 years to update just for small improvements

[sullen relic]

i just feel a bit fidgety if i finish a candle run and have no experiments to run
and i'm out of random ideas for the time being

[late mountain]

Ooh, new update? Cool ^^ Will check it out tonight.

[scenic verge]

I have waited 3 beta updates and used almost 12 resize potions and I still can’t change sizes 🥺 will this ever be fixed?!!???!!!??

[sullen relic]

have you filed any bug reports on them? especially if it's happening across different beta builds, just so they know it's still a present problem

[rain delta]

Ohhh there’s an updateeee

Also I’m aliveeee, school/work ate me but I’m still aliveeee

[random gull]

I was on live new update? got server split from my friends and can't rejoin them turns out office will say they're in the middle of a challenge too is that a bug

[sullen relic]

apparently, yeah, though nothing specific mentioned just yet; might be backend/invisible fixes for overall performance
and no, i don't think you're meant to be able to directly join your friends in the office, though the choice of "middle of a challenge" as opposed to "in a place you can't join right now" strikes me as an odd message to display

[tiny umbra]

I think i saw a bug report from live that said that the resize bug was there too

[sullen relic]

didn't get around to testing the wind trial in the build immediately before the one that just came out within the last hour, but i'm definitely noticing the wind behaving differently: you don't get tossed around nearly as much when you're grounded now, but you're still treated like a tumbleweed if your feet are off the ground

[hollow cloak]

There's another update for beta?

[sullen relic]

on testflight for iOS, yeah, not sure about android though

[hollow cloak]

I checked Google Play and yep, nothing

[random gull]

Still no update on android :( Google sneeping