#beta-discussion
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But it’s not hurting anyone
If rocketing is considered an exploit and is to be prevented in trials I hope atleast that wouldn't interfere with it's normal uses for oobs 
If people dont know about rocket and they are having a tough time doing trials then Seeing someone cheat infront of them could definitely make them give up,.. All meant to be equal in sky ..it can directly effect another player emotionally
woa I just wanna check the update chat what is going on 
also if there is too many players in fire trials it will be too bright. and a lot less challenging.. I will write feedback on it tomorrow
Ral, this is just my opinion but even though I love rocketing I do think it's unfair, bc people who are newer to the game or having a rough time completing normally will feel like it's very unfair to them that someone is rocketing their way through and finishing the trials in less than a minute
The whole point of taking your wings/energy and preventing spells and items is to make it fair for everyone, rocketing breaks that rule, no?
Also tbh in air this rocket will for sure upset many people .... Not everyone has friends to rocket .... Trials are trials... I think the prophets would be strict on the rules 😆
idk I'll just respect decisions tgc made
hug u guy
also the point of the trials is to test patience and persistence ... rocketing misses the whole point 
🥺
please don't fix this by fixing the rocket glitch everywhere, disable piggyback in the trials/add a reset barrier
it's a huge part of oobing
I think disabling piggyback isn't it, rather adding barriers that instantly take all your energy when you get too high
Does anyone have issues because of them boats ....everywhere i go theirs always a boat in the way .. Even in dark waters still ... At the spell stone at home it stops me from getting spells
I wonder what the devs views are on rocketing in vault to avoid the slow elevator?
Rocketing in vault ruins the experience too.
The environment looks so odd and confusing. I remember being dragged along a vault CR as a moth, and I was so confused (I also missed so many stars, seems the player who dragged me didn't care about helping),
and because of that, it took me a while to understand the vault map, because all I could remember was my first vault experience joining the confusing rocket.
rocketing is fun, but i feel you. I wouldn't have wanted to be dragged along a rocket as a moth 
Oof, no I would never want a moth to be rocketed. I’m talking more for people well versed in the game only with friends.
Exactly
It is a important part of oobing ..,i get that completely ...just trials i think it should be taken away.... Peoples emotions run raw in trials .. It takes the slightest thing to tip someone over the edge
Who's the og creator of ktjn's pfp?
reika i believe. take a look in the pins in general chat 
Probably good for feedback, I’d agree with you there Samuel . 
ktjn was born a krill with weasel mask on 
just please don't take away piggyback in trials...I want to piggy with my friends as capeless children

Piggyback rocket has always been a bug, but we've left it in because it wasn't being abused with nefarious intentions. When that line is crossed to directly circumvent designs, we have to reassess the situation. This is relatable to situations with glitching into the Office. We are generally okay with going out of bounds as long as it doesn't damage regular gameplay experiences for players who don't wish to go out of bounds. However when it comes to glitching into the office, it's considered an exploit, circumventing the need for specific capes (or friendship with someone who has one) to gain entry.
We don't makes changes to punish honest players, we make changes to prevent poor-intentioned behavior.
One day a week free office for non-cape owners? 🥺 A Sunday?
Thank you for the explanation!
I have the founders cape so I can promise I don’t need to OOB in to office but I’m pretty sure there’s still other ways to do so with chibi OOB as well as piggy glitch. Would it be worth reporting those specific OOBs as bugs should I encounter them?
unfortunately that kind of defeats the purpose of the tgc capes. But there are events that let in players who don't have a founders cape, so then they can buy it! or make friends with those who have it
Meanwhile I join my friends on OOB so we can role play in different scenes/ environment
At the top top highest pillar of Valley, we once played real estate and even had contract signing and housewarming party 
I didn't think other people would use the OOB-ing glitches to cheat in the game. That's just sad.
harbin, pretty sure they made it much harder to get in, as the portal is inactive unless someone with the cape is near it. even when you go underneath to where the portal is hiding, it is inactive. it would take a lot of effort and patience to get in without a cape. but reporting such exploits would be helpful 
@late mountain
The founder's cape wasn't cheap. I delayed buying my air fryer to afford it.
Do I regret my decision? No. I enjoy taking my friends to that area, and our favorite day is ISS day!
I especially love it when I take a newbie friend it. They looove the office, especially the crabs and the daily changing office spirits.
I love its premium color as well.
So finding out that non-founder's cape players try to glitch into the office is disappointing for me.
I also disagree with the idea of a free day. It defeats the purpose of it being a secret area.
The blue cape cost alot .... and tbh i dont want people to beable to go in their on a free day -it renders the cape pointless (i wouldnt of bought it ) . Unless a event (all welcome :)) giving free day .... That discourages friend making .. Their are plenty of blue capes to make friends with to get in ... Im one who always will always bring someone in aslong as they dont stamp and get angry .... everytime i go i take someone new
Ha ha thanks, saw your post just before I left
I’ll keep an eye out for them.
Assuming it’s possible to OOB in though you don’t need to wait long for a founders cape user to activate the portal. Whenever I go through there’s usually one or two coming with me with a cape of their own. Hopefully they just keep making it harder and harder to get in at all without the intended way and patch out the exploits ^^
I'm sometimes stay near the office portal just to wait someone glitched in but can't activate the portal to help them get in office. Should I stop this kind of behavior?
I'm sometimes stay near the office portal just to wait someone glitched in but can't activate the portal to help them get in office. Should I stop this kind of behavior?
@runic path Yes. definitely. You can add them as friends instead, and you can ping or join them to uber you in whenever you need a dose of the secret area.
EDIT: Oh wait, you have the office cape, you just want to help the ones who don't have them? Even if they only got in there via glitch anyway?
@spark lance yeah I just want to help someone get in
Don't encourage their behavior. They aren't even supposed to be there in the first place.
If they don't have the cape, I'm sure they can make friends with people who have the founder's cape. Then they can all share the office together.
that's really nice of you, but you probably shouldn't be encouraging them to glitch in 
ok time for me to sleep! good night! 
Goodnight, have a lovely night's sleep! 
Imagine having to save your allowance for weeks to go to Mcdonald's so you can get a happy meal with a toy.
Then someone walks in and asks the waitress for a free toy without buying anything.
Then the waitress proceeds to give it to them for no cost.
How would you feel? I would feel betrayed.
Is it normal to stay the same height after using resize?
@spark lance And that free guy is requesting you not to report to manager as this will ruin their happy experience of getting free toys....
It's currently a bug in beta. If you restart your game, you will see the resize applied to your avatar. @queen wedge
And that free guy is requesting you not to report to manager as this will ruin their happy experience of getting free toys....
@runic ermine Exactly!
Talk to them even longer, and you'll discover that they've been getting a free toy everyday
I want to say maybe they can lock piggyback for trials, but it will be soooo useful for fire
Update
Regarding Office glitches, if you can reproduce it (for cases like this, videos are the most helpful) definitely submit a bug report. If you're worried about backlash for reporting an exploit, you can always send it to @hardy carbon where the report will only be seen by staff.
Okay I will try office glitch.(with office cape
The way I think of waiting for others to OOB into office to open the portal for them is this:
First off it is TGC's office, quite literally. They gave me a blue visit pass when I purchased my founders cape and that entitles me and my plus one friends free access whenever we like. Pretty generous if you ask me.
Even though I have a free pass in though I shouldn't use it to help someone else break in. They don't want people breaking into their office so I don't want to help people break into their office, especially since TGC entrusted me with a pass in for me and my friends.
That's just my take but I hope that helps make things easy to understand from my perspective. 
I have a few friends who have the office cape too, but know how to office glitch.
They do it with the chibi fall on any slanted surface in the entry area of the office.
(their excuse it that, I wanna go to the office in white cape so I can take good pictures. I have the office cape anyway so this doesn't count as cheating)
Maybe update the layout of the area and make the surfaces more flat? Anyway vault map has not had any redo's and I think revamping/ upgrading some areas of it will make the map even more awesome! Like for example, it's too dark to play it when I'm playing outdoors. Maybe make it brighter too?
If the surface is flat or vertical, chibi fall will not work. I think that's a good solution to discourage glitching in using chibi without removing our OOB capabilities.
We need to have chibi fall for our OOB adventures, so please don't take it away...
If its in know issues.. should i still submit my version of the swing crash bug?
@spark lance yes make office entrance more flat will make chibi fall impossible. And won't hurt the ability to go OOB.
exactly
But you can go in to the office legitimately with your beta/Founder's cape, go back to Home and change cape and then just use the return shrine.
@open spindle is it still there after you've updated to the latest patch?
I think they already have made it much more flat than it used to be around office. Not to mention the other OOB techniques. Of course still report it like Ktjn said if you get the chance, but the only way I see it truly being patched without disabling OOB everywhere is to make the office portal be a 'smart' portal. Like the constellation gates. The portal would only accept someone wearing founders cape or someone holding hands/piggy back with a founders cape user (or beta cape).
Yea:( i can see others sitting on the swing but i can't sit or I'll crash
Or maybe make the walls part of the portal too.
In my experience tagging along those friends who showed me the glitch, they did it via the grassy area, then flew up to the smartgate by flying up.
So why not bubble wrap the whole area from around the gate? So that even with chibi fall, founder's cape will be required to bypass the entry point.
Harbin, isn't that how it works, though? The inner portal will only open to the correct cape. Those who glitch wait around close to the island and then jump in when someone with the cape activates the portal.
Speaking of which those spells for the pins, they don't work for piggy back to transfer friends but do for hand hold. Not sure if that's a coding limitation or a bug or both since piggy back drops you off when you change map zone anyway.
Harbin, isn't that how it works, though? The inner portal will only open to the correct cape. Those who glitch wait around close to the island and then jump in when someone with the cape activates the portal.
@hollow compass No. They chibi fell and flew around the entry point by flying from afar underground.
But if TGC bubble wraps the whole smart gate, then even with chibi fall, office cape will be required to pass it
Thanks for the update Ktjn ^^
Then introducing some kind of wind wall or other barrier could maybe help?
Harbin, isn't that how it works, though? The inner portal will only open to the correct cape. Those who glitch wait around close to the island and then jump in when someone with the cape activates the portal.
@hollow compass Yes but I mean even more smart. I'm talking wont work at all unless you're still attached in some way to the office cape user. So running in right after it just wont work/will take you back to home or valt spawn.
@spark lance u can go to office using office cape then return home... Wear white cape and use return shrine😁
I love how we're now basically giving free suggestions on how to bypass a gate to anyone lurking 
On the contrary, we're discussing possible options on how to make those methods obsolete @hollow compass
I mean if they look for a way in I doubt its too hard unfortunately. I feel like this discussion will be more productive for disabling those methods than harming due to lurkers.
u can go to office using office cape then return home... Wear white cape and use return shrine😁
@proper helm Tell that to my lazy friends
I'm half-joking. We do obviously need to discuss these things, but perhaps the available solutions should just be sent to ThatHelpBot.
Good point. Okay, erase erase. I have submitted my ideas to #live-feedback as well as #beta-feedback so all good
Does anyone know how to complete trial of fire without constantly dying?
Or at least completing it?
@minor drift RUN
Redoing trials because i miss them and live isn’t available yet.
Do it with a friend or two.
Candles are your bestfriends: one of you carry red candle to light the unlit ones attached to the ground in the path, and one or two of of you carry white candle (it has brighter glow) to keep you both alive and illuminate the path/ surrounding area. Stay close to one another. Your glow is brighter when your candles are closer together.
Watch out for the krillfarts (their paths have a pattern if you're willing to observe hard enough) and familiarize yourself with their paths.
Hint: krillfarts don't like getting near the candles attached to the ground, stay close to those. However, they don't care about your red and white candles you hold in your hand, you will still die if they touch you even if you're holding your candle.
If you see a red laser thing afar, your friends who are holding white candles can try to shout (deep call) to see a little bit of the krillfarts and the direction they are headed, and strategize your direction based on that.
Make sure you light up the candle bowls - they are your spawn points in case you die.
Accept the inevitability of you dying and respawning back to your last lit candle bowls every now and then.
Face the obstacle bravely.
@minor drift
Thank you @spark lance

Does anyone else’s character jitter when you run a certain speed ???its like your stepping in a hole every step
The sluggish goofy walk😂??
Nope not that 😂
I wish Prophect of fire's music sheet had a percussion track
I wish Prophect of fire's music sheet had a percussion track
@silent lily yess..
#beta-feedback maybe?
#beta-known-issues even
No, but mine has something similar maybe. When i run in a slower speed running looks like that the cycle of the movement is not seamless when the ends meet? If that makes sense Samuel
That’s it yes uploading now
@desert mango is there a video of this?
Yep uploading
Hey guys does the winged lights in trials counts as a winged light?
Uploaded
I noticed something else but I’m frustrated I can’t replicate it... at some points the footsteps on my sky kid can’t be heard? Like the sound of the footsteps is gone
Btw anyone want to hear skykid's heartbeat in any area?I mean I can only hear my skykid's heartbeat in eden
@desert mango Yap i had that yesterday too in beta and it's in live too I tried it there cause I'm currently playing that.
Ohh i love the heartbeat. Usually notice it in battlefield
Yep that happens with sound of footsteps ... that’s gonna be impossible to replicate ... I’ve had it a few times
Yep same in beta and live it happens
Our steps sound different depending on the ground we’re walking on.
Samuel, I’m going to video walking, because I wonder if there is a difference in one-handed mode.
One handed mode for the win
Theirs a heartbeat in every map I have noticed ... also their are hidden sounds to subliminally increase heartbeat or slow ... very clever
Btw anyone want to hear skykid's heartbeat in any area?I mean I can only hear my skykid's heartbeat in eden
@runic path You can hear your friend's heartbeat easily in a quiet area while holding hands
@hollow compass the issue with the footstep sound was on regular ground at home tho... when I restarted the app it was gone... but I swear there was no sound at first even when I went into daylight :(
oh i thought the heartbeat is part of the tracks XD
it's actually our avatar's own heartbeat? 
Okies I’m going to try one handed to see if it does it
@late mountain yeah I know I'm talking about our own heartbeat
Dunno about heartbeat but i heard it snoring when its sleeping which is qt 
Still happens one handed articles
Also the talking in space ?
They are counting something but i never understood what they say besides '30 seconds' cause music is too loud. Sound details are fun to find.
Posted in screenshots, me walking in one-handed mode. I wonder if the jagged walk is just because we’re not programmed to walk but run?
@late mountain yeah I know I'm talking about our own heartbeat
Ah okay, yeah I rarely hear it then
Ohh nooo the shoulder pads are goneeee ;-; on the earth cape ;-;
there were never shoulder pads on the earth cape tho
What? They are on me
they WHAT oh now i gotta see this
Hmm, they shouldn't be getting changed now that they reached live? are they clipping textures due to stance and position?
what about the color? has it changed to earth-y tone yet?
would someone who got the update share a screenshot of the earth prophet cape pls?
@late mountain or maybe a emote to volume up the heartbeat will be great. Like long hug
Ooh I love that idea. More of the heartbeat would be really immersive at the right times
You know I actually like the cape without the shoulder pads, it looks better :o petition to keep it that way!
oh yall meant the earth prophet cape not the earth day cape
Hmm, I'll have to investigate more tonight to see what I think. I'm surprised they're considering changing it though now that its in live. Live version has shoulder pads right?
thank you @rain delta for the screenshots
I think the update may have something to do with the diamond at the back?
From the previous design, the first diamond at the top would get eaten by the neck thingy connected to the shoulder pads. It didn't look good.
@hollow compass ... Its not as noticeable in ur video - but its definatly their... Hope this will be fixed quick cause im noticing it more now 😭
Even when i run fast i notice as i get up to speed
Guys the earth cape actually looks really nice now 😍😍😍 it especially looks like a stone embroidery around the cape’s neck
And and it looks really good on the chibi too! Anyone else feel that way?
can somebody link me a video to that cape-star-spin glitch before this update? i missed some updates and i bet it looked funny
I will upload as i sent bug... Also the new one has bug unfortunately .. The shoulder partz are round neck on mine 😦
It looks like now the star at the top is almost peeling off tho
if you look at it from an angle haha
The cape still has the shoulder pads on the Earth profit cApe?
For me yes
Oh wait there was an update, it wasn't a big one cuz usually the app tells me to update
The cape look horrible... I want to throw mine in the garbage
Personal preference. I like the shape and the design in general, but I wish it wasn't so similar to the other cape's color.
The cape look horrible... I want to throw mine in the garbage
@desert mango Remember to keep it respectful even if you don't like it. I'm sure someone worked hard on that design
I'm sure TGC's artists worked hard to design that cape. It's only a matter of personal preference.
Work hard.... okay
Yeah ur right....mine just looks bad... I love the cape but not while its bugged like mine... Yours looks much better... I said garbage cause mines broke and i want to wear it badly
Guys somebody send me seasonal candle location in Forest. in #beta-screenshots-videos
Is it bugged too when you are not wearing the chibi mask?
But yes, I do agree with you @tender oasis
Sky already has a lot of purple aesthetics...
And I feel it's a little redundant to have 2 out of only 3 capes in the season to have similar colors
I wish they made the earth prophet cape more earth-y. Like maybe a shade closer to brown or grey? Or maybe in the green or yellow spectrum?
Guys please
I feel the color is too similar too, but oh well.. too late now I guess :( the color is definitely growing on me tho
I wish we had something similar to don’t go/beg emote cape — the hue/color shift on that cape is just chefs kiss... regret missing it when it came around as a TS
@tender oasis its actually worse when you’re a chibi ], the stone pads shrink into the cape :(
ngl i like how it looks now i wasnt really digging the shoulder pads.. i do wish 2/3 capes werent the same color though
Wait there was an issue with tables causing game crashes? And all this time I thought the friend I made yesterday just decided to abandon me when I started talking to them 
Yo can anyone tell me what the new Halloween cosmetics cost? I clicked on it too fast and might get the hat when it gets to live
@urban tendon i think the hat was 9.99
Where are seasonal candles today? I can only find 3 of them
@urban tendon i think the hat was 9.99
@rain delta
Ok thank you!
For everyone saying they don't like two of the three capes being the same colour try being colour-blind so all three are

Also I am only kidding around, don't take offence.
Be sure to send some feedback if you have an opinion you want to share with the devs about it. 
Mischief catch up pack: (pumpkin and bat cape together) + something idk white candles = $29.99
Individual pumpkin hat + 6 white candles = $11.99
Individual bat cape + 10 white candles = $17.99
Mischief web cape (idk about candles it comes with) = $14.99
Mischief witch hat (idk also candles) = $9.99
$ = USD
(The prices are still subject to change once the event goes live)
@urban tendon
Idk if u guys ignoring my text or what. Please somebody send me seasonal candle location of forest in #beta-screenshots-videos
I think this is it @shy pumice: #seasons-events-chat message
Please be respectful with your tone @shy pumice
We are a helpful community, but I think it pays to be respectful to one another, especially in our choice of words.
It is not anyone's responsibility to do anything for anybody here.
Max I’m currently not playing sorry. Probably whoever is here isn’t playing either and reset just happened a few mins ago. We didn’t ignore you just didn’t have the answers / pictures yet.
Please be respectful with your tone @shy pumice
We are a helpful community, but I think it pays to be respectful to one another, especially in our choice of words.
It is not anyone's responsibility to do anything for anybody here.
@spark lance I asked for help 3 times and nobody responded not even as a reaction to my text. I am. ot being disrespectful at all i was just asking for a little help and felt forgotten there
Also since the season is live you can probably ask in #questions-and-help too. You're likely to get a quicker answer there.
There's not many of us here in beta chat, especially right now. If we're already in a conversation it can be easy to skip over a message, especially if we don't have an answer to it. I only knew because I'm familiar with io in another server and they're usually very kind to post the locations for everyone.
I hope it helps, don't feel like we're ignoring you, we probably just don't have the knowledge or resources to help or missed your message while responding to another.
Could have asked this in live, but is the 2nd Valley twin's hair supposed to be a boy's hairstyle?
Sky kids have no gender and I'm not sure the elders have been given a gender either although some may say its obvious one way or another. I personally think its a more boyish hairstyle but that's just my opinion, others may differ. Bottom line, if you like the hair then wear it and if you don't then don't wear it. 
Could have asked this in live, but is the 2nd Valley twin's hair supposed to be a boy's hairstyle?
@late tulip if u use it with a beard![]()
In this day and age, any hairstyle can be your hairstyle, I consider everything in sky as non-binary
Is having fire spirit’s pants in beta still not normal
Nope, you can get it.
Nah, you can have fire pants now. I'm getting it today 
"Fixed a bad mesh causing cape stars to spin" pft it spinned? 
No matter how many times I try, the pillar of light does not appear in today's valley race. Just me?
omgf i wish we had a plague doctor mask for this years halloween event that would be awesome
(imagine if there were clothes/pants that had little bottles and pockets too)
Awww, I want the old Earth Prophet Cape back-
Last time I checked, the mesh with the upper star is actually pretty okay. It only gets messed up when you do certain emotes like Praying Emote lvl 3
This is what I noticed in live
Should I... send feedback or something? Idk, I just really don’t like the current cape in Beta rn-
I checked again and does spin when you walk-
But I don’t really like the change so I’ll probably send feedback
@shy pumice sorry for late ping, but since the season is now live you can always find the locations in #seasons-events-chat 🙂 It’s the same placements.
How do I get seasonal candles fastly?
There’s no fast way unless you’re planning to buy them.
I thought cant buy in beta 🤔
Yeah but the person who asked isn’t a beta player. Look at their roles
The blue Prophecy cape looks like you came out of the toilet but forgot to remove your toilet paper 
@tacit stone we don't do that here
What lies in wait for you can only be overcome by ||sneep||
what happened to earth cape's shoulder pads... 🙈
@shy pumice #seasons-events-chat is amazing at posting all the locations and stuff! I’d definitely check it out for candle locations and so on
I think they already know by now. 😉
So in the future some of traveling spirits item is no longer free
So in the future some of traveling spirits item is no longer free
@spark lance not necessarily. It's still in beta and has a chance to be removed which I expect because of the communitys upheaval
@tender oasis When chibbi the cape is not bugged the same way but still the shoulder pads are not symmetrical ... I really love the cape and the shoulder pads so id love them kept on..,. 🤍
@spark lance you can read more about the suggested change in #beta-announcements.
didnt there used to be a checkpoint at the last air spewing platform before the statue at air trial???
@spark lance not necessarily. It’s still in beta and has a chance to be removed which I expect because of the communitys upheaval
@ancient tusk true i mean im okay with that if the season already started but the thing i hate is u need to pre order between off season just to unlock all ts items lol , what will happen to the people who choose to save for pass like splitting the price into 3 in order to save money what will happen to them sad :((
@spark lance again, this is a proposed solution, so any feedback like that is great to share with TGC in #beta-feedback . They want to know what we think about it.
They have not taken the shoulder pads off.. Its bugged... They are meant to be their....its obvious why its a hard cape to fix... I love the design
i already knew chibi is bugged, but the shoulder pads still look off in normal height
I really really hate people who thinks criticizing the cosmetics were rude or you were forced to say thank you cuz they design is with blood and sweat really? We paid for it it looks like they make it in a hurry same color sucks
huh?
it's ok to have negative feedback, as long as you keep it constructive. not everyone likes the same things.
I saw something changes with spider cape..oh hoo
I saw something changes with spider cape..oh hoo
@stark cloud can i see the pic
I don’t think it’s ok so say to anyone that their design sucks. You can express your dislike in a much nicer way and also be constructive by adding what you think is missing. @spark lance
#beta-screenshots-videos many screenshot in here..spider cape from earth prophet
I don’t think it’s ok so say to anyone that their design sucks. You can express your dislike in a much nicer way and also be constructive by adding what you think is missing. @spark lance
@hollow compass but telling you “hey you should be thankful cuz they work hard for it realllyyyyyy look at theee fannn madeeeee theyre better at designs
Observer, I didn’t say that and I also haven’t seen anyone else here say that. Please try to keep a more civil tone. We all love this game and want the best for it.
other people like the designs. so shouldnt it be ok for them to say they appreciate the devs' work?
I kinda like previous design with shoulder pads..but it is what it is.. I don't mind..still a cape..
Designing a 2d drawing and putting it into a game so its animated and reacts to flight and wind and movement are two different things...
The shoulder pads are still their... It aint changed its bugged
Empathy is important when criticising others work
So quiet here
I'm guessing there is just only Gratitude Season will be used new TS way
meh, i'm okay with this
Im still not over with the fur cape issue tgc ddnt take back from people who claim it for free from the bug
What fur cape issue?
Wrong traveling spirit instead of weasel mask it was fur came out for some players who ddnt update their device
Ahh
It stayed for 5 days same with weasel and tgc ddnt even do something some players exploit buy fur cape ts first then adter they update they can also buy the weasel ts ... till now tgc still quite about it
Why is that so bad? Let’s be a little generous to others sometimes. I don’t remember if this was only a beta thing, but if it was there really is no need to correct it. A cape doesn’t give you an unfair advantage in the game, other than you having one more cape than some other players.
Why is that so bad? Let’s be a little generous to others sometimes. I don’t remember if this was only a beta thing, but if it was there really is no need to correct it. A cape doesn’t give you an unfair advantage in the game, other than you having one more cape than some other players.
@hollow compass it was not free in live it happen in live not in beta older players bought it 20 dollars
Why were so many bugs leaked from beta to live?
Sometimes it takes longer to fix things and not all bugs are game breaking enough to warrant a delay of a whole season.
Updates are not forced .. Nothing could of been done... What happend happened... As articles said.. Those who got it are lucky .. Those who didnt -didnt..,its nice they got to keep it... Was not a hack .., just chance... Im fine with it
Why is that so bad? Let’s be a little generous to others sometimes. I don’t remember if this was only a beta thing, but if it was there really is no need to correct it. A cape doesn’t give you an unfair advantage in the game, other than you having one more cape than some other players.
@hollow compass so tell me is it okay to exploit? Hehe
Sometimes there are more important things that need to be fixed. They are a small company. It’s easy to sit on the other side and complain when you aren’t the one doing the work
@spark lance that cape was part of a season, so most older players probably got it that way even if it was also briefly available as an IAP. Those players who bought it with real money were compensated in another way.
Not to comment on the bug but be aware fur cape is a valid ts possibility I'm pretty sure. Yes some players bought it separately but the ts may still return at any given time I believe. It is not an ultimate gift.
It was not s exploit ... Just luck or chance ...
I do recall some players mentioned about the extra winged buff from that bugged TS, although it might not be the right channel since it's in live
It was in live and was fixed I think
Yes, this conversation is now not very beta related at all. 
And I remember players who got that bug cant see weasel spirit too. So who lucky who not?
I did notice that the star was still floating on the cape. Watched it spin slowly on a friends cape 😂
I wish tgc lower the price of holiday item event
All stars float on every cape as its seperate from the cape because it animates .... If you look closely u will see this on all
Moving onto more beta related content how have people been going with the fire trial of late. Is practice helping?
Observer - make sure you put all this in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived That’s the best place to be heard. Just please try to be positive in how you say it
I am angry because the most important thing is the history of the spirits, some animations were wrong or did not develop or appear, a last season that supposedly was good, the one on the island they damaged everything, you can not even farm and that makes me angry
I am angry because the most important thing is the history of the spirits, some animations were wrong or did not develop or appear, a last season that supposedly was good, the one on the island they damaged everything, you can not even farm and that makes me angry
@charred harbor say that in general discussion chat prepare the “you should be thankful they work hard to fix” hahaha
Harbin, I go with a friend and it goes really fast!
@charred harbor I’m sorry, not quite sure what you are trying to say. What are you angry about more specifically? A lot of the bugs in Live are being patched into beta for us to test right now.
I believe that has been patched in the current beta build Dvidbang. It is unfortunate it made it to live but it also would have significantly delayed the season if it was held back. TGC weighs their options and try their best to patch all they can while we try out best to find the bugs and pass it on here.
I already said that. It feels a bit like we’re just going in circles.
@late mountain
@ Fire trail not for me hahaha I'm still getting lost and dying for a good hour
I should really take notes now 
Saki - do you go with a friend or alone?
The spirit bugs were fixed until the season went to live as it was different version... No need to be angry... This kind of thing happens and they will be fixed
Tried both
alone is even worse tho
I already said that. It feels a bit like we’re just going in circles.
@hollow compass If you mean me then I can only type so fastBesides mine is a little different and sometimes even repeating the same thing by posting at similar times can just support each other
I think I need to take a deep breath and try the trials again. I went with a group of friends through fire earlier, but it was so confusing I’m not sure I know what happened.
It’s definitely meant to do with a friend. We do piggyback and use white candles. Never have it burn us. It is easy to get lost though 😂
@late mountain
@ Fire trail not for me hahaha I'm still getting lost and dying for a good hour
I should really take notes now
@latent oar Oof, I'm no good at it either. Haven't dared enter without friends in a while
if the sanctuary island was fine why did they damage it? If there is a beta, why do errors have to be filtered live? I couldn't see the animations of the spirits when I made them live and you think it is not important? I see that in a game that already has a history and I feel that the quality is very low.
I've been trying to go by solo since the difficulty might be adjusted for multiplay in the future
But yeah... Where am I....
We have moved on from that conversation. No need to keep beating it into the ground.
Saki - trying hugging the walls. That might help?
@charred harbor No one here said these things were not important. We beta players are not responsible for bugs in Live. We only try our best to let TGC know about them, but TGC also has to prioritise what they work on. And not all bugs can be fixed in a minute.
True, my Saki twin 
I really want to succeed at the air trial just once. Pleeeeease.
I tried with friends.... I find the trials more satisfying alone ..,fun with friends but more pressure in a group of 3 i found ..
Air trial. Pffft. I think they can rename it the plummet trial How maybe times can you plummet down?!
ok I admit that by "mistake" they damage the code and the island of the sanctuary but the spirits of the prophet is the entrance to the whole story behind it ... I think they were wrong there
@hollow compass did you not get passed that part ? 😞 ... Dont give up .. You can do it ... 😘
I hear you Samuel. There is a feeling of pressure. But going with friends that you have warp with can help if you get super frustrated at a point, or as a check point. We do in relays. Some are better at parts then others. We work together
@charred harbor Also fixing bugs can be tricky. Sometimes when you fix one thing, it accidentally affects 9 other things.
Do you think they want to take away the animations and release a build with that much bugs on purpose? Of course not. They're constantly looking for ways to fix anything and everything they can.
Sky is a big game but TGC is a small company. We cannot expect perfection from them but we can always expect excellence. They always do their best for us, sometimes even to their expense.
@desert mango Nope, we gave up after 60 tries! 
bruh 60
Articles ... If you take it wide you will do it ... You have to go on the outside of the air not inside .. Think of it as a track ... Take the outside.. U will do it
I swear I cant do that twice in air trail 
I really need to start an air trial uber service on beta. Its my best trial, but I constantly run out of time among study, candle runs in live and testing things in beta.
i plan to only do the air trial in live once. Ever. and maybe never again.
As a developer myself, some persistent bugs are hard to fixed. Even giant companies are also dealing with bugs especially those that are hard to be fixed. Just bear in mind Dvid that there is no perfect game that has no bugs.
I have a friend who does air trial without check points now. Drives me crazy. But they practiced a lot.
laughs in Sims4
Feels like threading thousands of needles when playing trails but I enjoy it coughs
cries in jellyfish call
@hollow compass
Never mind my perfect landing but watch how i take it wide
quizzes get boring when thousands of players make a roket video by passing quizzes in 1 minute and uploading it to social media
@hollow compass
Never mind my perfect landing but watch how i take it wide
Now that's what your callparkourparCOOL
The trials make me feel stupid and inadequate.
@charred harbor what does that even mean in relation to Sky?
Nicely done Samuel!
Thankyou ...... I really love trials and sheer determination and practice will help you master it 🤍
But that feeling you get Blep, when you finally master a trial. Earth trial at the end, I couldn’t do the last stepping stones part for so long. I kept trying and finally did it by myself. It felt so good! I can’t compare myself with others and their abilities. Of course, it doesn’t mean I will do that one alone much because the end drives me crazy!
Me: I'll never come back again, NEVER!
Me next day:
why not solo a trail
Now the true test I have learned is how to plummet in all the trials gracefully and with good form. Maybe there needs to be a competition for the most epic fall.
We were born for this 
I think I just never enjoyed competition elements in games. Running on time, having to move forward quickly, not possible to stop and observe first.
quizzes get boring when thousands of players make a roket video by passing quizzes in 1 minute and uploading it to social media
@charred harbor I'm sorry but I don't understand.
Are you:
a.) Unhappy that you are unable to finish a trial alone (or with friends) via traditional path and upset that other players are using OOB techniques to enjoy the new area?
b.) Secretly jealous of players who have friends upgraded all the way to piggy and can therefore rocket in trials because you don't have friends like that?
See what I did there? You said quiz so I also quizzed you 
EDIT: On a sidenote, chill... Sky is just a game. We are meant to play it and have fun. Don't victimize yourself by blaming how other players play their Sky. Play it the way you want.
The stepping stone part at end of earth.. I wont upload my video as im not really one to flex my skills too much 😂
Oh, quiz as in trial?
eeeh let's not start this
The rocket bug is used to pass the tests, they make videos where they teach how to do it, they upload it to the networks and more people do it by passing the tests in 1 minute, what I mean is that it becomes boring when people no longer explore and they just do it fast
Not everyone does. I have piggy with almost all my friends (in live) and warp too. But we played the trial traditionally. I enjoy seeing them in the brown hair bug when they respawn 
Well, you can’t control how others play the game. Just let it be and do your own thing.
I'm not actually sure where the admin team stands on discussing piggy rocket in trials. Just be aware it is an exploit and the rules say not to discuss exploits here. That's all I'll say on this topic.
You don’t want to do trials with me. I am slow, methodical, doing counting to see how long things rotate.
Harbin, scroll up a bit for Ktjn’s comments on piggy back. It is considered an exploit in the trials.
I have found it’s better to worry about my own game and not how others play their game.
Yes. Let's not.
Ktjn said if you have clips on people using OOB techniques/ bugs and you are unhappy about it or if you feel that it is worth reporting, go ahead and report it to TGC
Did everyone go to space yesterday and see and hear the changes?
imagine there's millions of skykids, everyone is unique and we have our own way to enjoy the game too
there were changes?
aaahhh what changes
Let em get on with it .., some do it cauze they are unable to complete it the right way ... Some do it cause its their thing.... But as long as you play how you wanna play... ( me i go solo and try to test my skills ,i dont like to cheat myself )
But think - by doing the trials the way they are designed to be done you are going to get better and better.. Those oobing wont.... I say let em carry on...
Harbin, scroll up a bit for Ktjn’s comments on piggy back. It is considered an exploit in the trials.
@hollow compass Re-read my comment (that or i didn't make it clear enough)
I am aware it is an exploit, I was commenting on the fact the rules prohibit discussion of exploits but I am unsure where this particular one stands as I have seen many conversations with no intervention talking about feedback for it. To be safe I'm not going to further discuss it to stay in line with the rules.
Space i was not able to get to as the tv kept spitting me out again 😭
Back to space!!!! Oh no Samuel! Was it the wrong channel? 😂
Please.... Whats new with space ...
Hahaha yep wrong channel 😂😂😂😂😂
I semt a bug report about it
I consider that sky is a game to enjoy and relax what I like is that they break the game that they explode everything on YouTube to encourage more people to do so
What does everyone think of Halloween space? 🎃
I know their were pumpkins in space.. Whats changed ????
There are pumpkins in space and they added NASA sounds
What does everyone think about halloween homespace 🎃
Oh. They should add aliens! 👽
Wait wha? did i miss something Blue?
Yeah just the floating pumpkins Samuel, I just found them awesome ^^
I have no gone to ISS when it was open, unfortunately
@late mountain
I mean about home space. Did something change and I'm blind? XD
You mean you didn’t see the invisible ghosts Harbin?
I don’t care about/for Halloween at all, so it’s just...there and uninteresting. Sorry.
No, that was just in my wishlist 
Yea i loved them too.. Yesterday the pumpkins seemed so far away .. No yesterday i tried and tried to get their and really wanted to get the pumpkins again .. My friend also could not 😭😭
Isn't there already a jelly ghost outside the office 
You mean you didn’t see the invisible ghosts Harbin?
I'm not that dull.
No, that was just in my wishlist
Ooh, cool idea but I've previously seen TGC mention they don't plan to do it at homespace. IRL events that don't make sense in the sky world they have dedicated office to be the place for the event. I mean they might change their mindd though or my memory might be shot. Who knows.
Anyone else here miss the two small pumpkins on the pipes near the ceiling? Yep, just me like usual. 😂
I want fireworks like in lord of the rings at the beginning 😭.... I have sent to feedback about 5 months ago
@late mountain What about the Season of Rhythm though? They made a snowy wonderland homespace...
does that mean we're not getting a similar setup anymore this coming winter?

This beta skykid is off to sneep - 3:30 am. Hope to see you sometime in beta!
good night saki
Have a good night's sleep! ^^
Goodnight sleep well 🤍
3:30AM? oh sorry no. I meant...
Good mornight 
@late mountain What about the Season of Rhythm though? They made a snowy wonderland homespace...
does that mean we're not getting a similar setup anymore this coming winter?
I mean winter is a season rather than a human based event. I'd say if they did it once there's a good chance you'll get it again
waiting for that spooky office to hit live version 
ngl im a little bit more excited about halloween cosmetics than prophecy lul
I love the Halloween cosmetics but I love this season's masks more. Also I don't have the money to get the Halloween stuff
I've made a rule for myself to save and only get items with use (like lantern and hopefully returning swing-set) along with the occasional cosmetic. Unless these ones are significantly cheaper in live than beta I'll probably save for Christmas cosmetics
(assuming they have a Christmas event)
Anyway talking about beta, regarding the latest update, has anyone tried sitting on a table yet?
Give us the deets (I'm still at work so I can't check on it just yet
)
The bug has been fixed, check #beta-known-issues
I just open the Beta and saw update...
But I just updated it yesterday 😭
I felt the same way. I only purchased the lantern (though it's pricey) because it has an actual utility and my friends enjoy tagging me along even more now because I act as their headlights when we explore dark areas 
Harbin, scroll up a bit for Ktjn’s comments on piggy back. It is considered an exploit in the trials.
@hollow compass But warping is perfectly fine?
wait a minute... piggyback has been disabled in trials?

wait a minute... piggyback has been disabled in trials?
@mild panther No it hasn't
dang i was hoping that it would... 
Will the ultimate mask be fixed? 
What needs to be fixed about it?
color changes...?
Oh I thought that was intentional lol
I hope its not a bug 
I find it good. I like it actually.
The hue changes from warm to cool depending on your outfit so you don't look mismatched.
Yea so hope its not a bug and not be fixed 
But warping is perfectly fine?
@prisma swallow Warping is an intentional feature in the game so unless they decide to remove it in trials a warp would be considered entirely feasible and allowed.
Anubis mask + wasteland elder + staff + black cape + rhythm pants 
Ooh mask changes colour does it? I love that idea. Is it the halo that changes?
ahhh can't wait for anubis mask, 50 days in live version here I go
Imma just pop on over to feedback
(I love that they've done that)
The mask itself changes color too, Harbin!
Can anyone acknowledge what i just sent in #beta-screenshots-videos
Ooo-
So we can feedback what we like? 
wut
Completing Sanct drained me
but now it’s a season I adore the aesthetic of, I can’t wait
I want the update fast so that I can go back to collect my poor 11 seasonal candles...
Ah yeah...that...
We shouldn't talk much in this server since it's there's hacking involved @thorny fulcrum
I was planning to finish the rip off spirit... today and yet

No one’s gonna talk about the changes to the Earth Prophet cape..? 
People were buying account/costumes from hacker and please do report it since it's not legitimate
we already did. immediately after we got the update
scroll up @fervent patrol
Its not hack btw :T
I already said about this before but no one believed me so just skip it
RMB = currency in China
No one’s gonna talk about the changes to the Earth Prophet cape..?
@fervent patrol what change? I dont see any
Try to drag 7 friends without piggyback in trials.
piggy rocket tho... I don't think its fair to use to complete the trials, but since the trials don't give that much of a reward besides the satisfaction that u completed them and a wing. .. Those who don't like the trials won't go there anyways. Those who like the trials will go there to do the them in the regular way. 
But adding a reset wall over the highest checkpoint would solve the rocket problem i guess. (I would definitely miss the view from far up tho, it's beautiful in air, earth and water)
oh sounds like some black market stuff

The shoulder pads were changed and are now part of the neck of the cape. It looks really weird now because of it-
@dusky jolt eh Would you mind to share a bit more if you have found any clue 
It looks good but the shoulder pads totally look strange on chibi @fervent patrol
We don't know yet if it's intentional or a fortunate bug
I don’t think the issue would just be chibi.
The cape would now... well, won’t look right on certain stances too since the shoulder pads are now part of the neck rather than the cape itself-
Can’t be the judge of this tho since I don’t play beta
I dont see any problem with the shoulder pad ... But maybe you guys can report if you are seeing it and you dont like it ... The ping mentioned star pattern fixed not the design changed ... If they changing design they'll announce ... Also i hope they change color to spider related ... Red and black ... Red overall wid black lines
Parts of the cape would clip through the shoulder pads. I already sent feedback... but idk if it’ll be changed back so I kinda feel down rn about it-
It was the cape I was looking forward to the most due to the shoulder pad design and the color-
The mask does not change colour ... its something someone has done (you know who ) and no .. id prefer it not changing colour.. its made of stone ...keep it that way .. no halo changing colours either.. plz no ..,
hello! i’m really excited for the halloween cosmetics but i wanted to ask, is the prices for the cosmetics official? or will it be changed in the future?
hello! i’m really excited for the halloween cosmetics but i wanted to ask, is the prices for the cosmetics official? or will it be changed in the future?
@full imp we have no idea neo, but i think the prices are not going to change
Oh my god ... Its so odd
ah okay great! thank you so so much!!
am i the only one to see the new pants clip through the capes when sitting on benches/tables, etc?
Even the halo is ok .,. But not the mask ... I would like it to change color depending on my cape .. just halo not mask
I think the color is fine-
The thing is Reika confirmed the capes color scheme were based off of the dawn colours of Isle-
Guys how many seasonal candles a day again? I forgotten to play for the past two days and I only have fire boy to and bat boy to finish
The thing is Reika confirmed the capes color scheme were based off of the dawn colours of Isle-
Wait, isle is purple?
The colours of dawn of Isle
There’s a hint of blue, purple and magenta in the Skies of Isle
Ahh!!! My wish is fulfilled!!! I can update the Beta now!!
I'm going to get my candles!!
@tough pebble 11
The colours of dawn of Isle
-Are purple?Sorry I'm colour-blind, I heard the capes are purple but I didn't know anything in isle was?
Thank you 
the capes only, not the entire season
I forgot the game on my tablet open and now it's a frying pan
The Sky in Isle has a tint of purple from what I remember
A fun fact: the colours of the capes reflect the colours in isle!
The Sky in Isle has a tint of purple from what I remember
Ah okay, thank you ^^
But they change the shoulder pads now I’m kinda upseettttt-
if anything i think the bat cape is pretty generic, i love earth cape the way it is, it's perfect
except for the recent change with the shoulder pads, pls bring it back...
i did already but thanks for the offer
prob only me but I like the current one hehe
Uhh is the translation button still beta only or is it in Live already? Sorry my minds all fuzzy 
beta only :)
Ahh okay thank you 
Is the AP TS thing still going on?
Dont know kinda sus
Has anyone had issues with glowing people on water trials hounding you and won’t leave you alone to do trials ... I know they are trying to help but I find it very annoying... it’s not just a quick ask ... they won’t leave you be ...it’s very clostrophobic and quite forceful the way they were acting..... everyday for 3 days me and my friends have had same issues
The mask does not change colour ... its something someone has done (you know who ) and no .. id prefer it not changing colour.. its made of stone ...keep it that way .. no halo changing colours either.. plz no ..,
@desert mango At lwast one person haa filed a bug about the mask changing color (though all their screenshots were taken in the Closet; the phenomenon may be less evident in other lighting conditions). As I understand things, you're right that the mask technically does not change color, but it's shiny enough that it can weakly reflect the color of the cape you're wearing.
I actually think this is really neat, from a technical perspective. I'm not one to normallt gush about how a game engine handles lighting, but in a game that's all about light I think it makes sense to sit back and appreciate it a little extra.
I have a kind of tilted view cause recently I reported a ||hacker||who had red rythem cape and red Anubis mask... so I thought you were taking about that... but yes...light reflection is cool
Wow, this is the most chill I‘ve seen beta chat since before the most recent beta waves were announced. 
we've reached the point in time where shiny new thing hype is gone because live now has the shiny new thing
watch the beta servers be suuuuper empty. but hey I found workarounds for more than one of my table glitches 
I felt sick when I talked to a hacker 
I felt sick when I talked to a hacker
@fallen lily Yeah. I actually set up a heart exchange with one before I knew about the hacking activities. Then they started going around with the "Santa cape" and I was all NOOOO WHYYYY (reported anyway, but so far the person's still on and wearing it).
has anyone found the rock mentioned in the live patch notes? do you think it has something to do with the buggy mural in the jelly cave in sanctuary?
the questions channel had no answer to me
has anyone found the rock mentioned in the live patch notes? do you think it has something to do with the buggy mural in the jelly cave in sanctuary?
@strong canopy Haven't found a weird rock in Sanctuary, but the floating rock in the CoP topside space is missing in Live. Could that be the one they mean?
what does the earth cape look like?
Those will be activated after earth trail iirc....so maybe another secret rock @grave jetty
I think the rock is OOB somewhere in sanctuary. And I do believe it is the floating rock
I haven't found it yet cuz I haven't looked (isn't the floating rock missing in beta too or did I hit a bug?)
woah interesting
ooooh Saki you were talking about the ones inside the cave weren't you/; there was a floating rock above the cave. some people called that space OOB but it technically wasn't since you could just ly straight up to it
Ah that one with some candles?
It was definitely OOB in beta while they were fleshing it out. It was soooo blocky haha
yeah i wonder if the floating rock not appearing is a bug or a weird feature
bc it came to beta after i finish the 4 trials (including earth one)
true kai
I found that top before anything got added and have neat screenshots of the chasm
Same

last time I OOBed to there was in live on day 1 of the season and the rock was gone but the candles were still floating so I think the rock being gone is not intentional
I would go there when I had time to make the effort bc wax
yeah we know but maybe they intend to bring the rock once we finish the earth trial? i really have no clue, but its true that it looks odd atm
the patch notes did say the rock wanted to vacation in sanctuary. the way it was worded made me believe that wasn't intentional but it was so funny and harmless that they kept it
oh so maybe they didnt move anything but just made fun of the missing rock?
the devs have said before that they don't nerf all of the cheeses because they know it can be fun so maybe they don't fix all of the bugs for the same reason
the chat item crash is just beta right? thinking about just chilling in live on my table for a while this evening
it was fixed in last night's update i believe
oh I haven't downloaded that yet 😄 I'll have to check it out on lunch break
i havent played it either
i was too busy oobing with a moth i met in prairie oob in Live. isn't it just the cutest thing when you find a moth accidentally oob?
they wanted to see eden oob so i showed them the color-changing sky
definitely one of my favorite OOBs. I am terrible at finding it myself though x.x only got led there once and haven't successfully gotten there alone yet
you can get there many ways. you can fly through (a hole in) the cloud layer and then fly down on the outside (that gets you red sky)
you can do the eden flyover skip and overshoot and there should be a way to jump off the side if youre standing on top of the area with the tunnel. (that gets you blue sky)
there's also pink, black, white, and purple, and dark blue
I didnt know eden could change colors
Does... piggyback tower still work in fire trial? (If so, how many people?)
yes it does. and I've had a stack of 8 before 
you're basically invincible as piggy stack. can explore the darkness without dying or needing to light candles. just don't let the worms touch you cuz the top few people will die still
I wonder if shorter linked piggy stacks might work better: say, two stacks of 4 holding hands. Like, similar nigh-invincibility, but short enough to protect the top few members. Anyone tried it?
I haven't but now I want to 
anyone know how to burn big plant in office rooftop
you have to wait for ppl to help you
have at least 3 people XD 4 if you get someone to distract krills
bomb me with betaa spoilers
Huh?
not really much different in beta than live right now except some bug fixes and the 3 trials yall haven't got yet
(Im pretty sure they're talking about lore spoilers-)

Yis
the lore channel is a good place to go for that then. it's been hype a lot recently
Lmao, they were already in lore chat but they can't talk about beta stuff
Yall should've been here when this chat turned into lore chat 2.0
Good morning!
You're free to lurk in #beta-screenshots-videos but the beta channels aren't a q&a for spoilers
Oh hi Brick
ah. well there's still some good lore in the lore channel already from the first trial
in 3 weeks when the other 3 trials are out it'll be chaos there
I give up on general-sky-discussion 
And yeah, we aren't all chilling here sharing super secret spoilers or anything. We're laughing and/or crying about the bugs and trials 
At one point this chat did turn into lore chat 2.0 talking about the murals from what I've seen-
gen chat always go nyoom. I am trying to keep up tho. my beta adventures yesterday was spending an hour trying to find a workaround for the table crashing cuz I couldn't table glitch
God can you open in-game store in Eden? But once I go home I can.
Guys is changing color of the mask through seasonal cape's color is its function?
if you mean anubis mask, belonging capes make the most color difference while other capes make a subtle color difference on it
No, its not supposed to happen.
it hasn't been listed as a feature. devs have always said if something functions unexpectedly and it isn't specifically listed as a feature to bug report it. they'll clarify if it is a feature if we report and it's not a bug
The color changing bug was a thing during belonging too, its definitely a bug
But it's cool....and it's normal to reflect light by cape colour
well but the color is very amazing maybe they should considering list as a feature
You can always suggest it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived just make sure to keep it beta spoiler free
But even if its cool, please report it as a bug
you can bug report it and also say it's unexpected but cool and if it's not game breaking you'd like it to stay in #beta-feedback
Honestly though... Color-changing cosmetics would be so cool 
Something different will not hurt anyone isn't it?? We Should wishlist it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
thinking about those ikea mattress iceburgs again
things like that make me appreciate the more fleshed out textures WAY more
I checked the earth cape, what was the change ?
The shoulder pads. They're no longer part of the cape, now part of the neck part of the cape
Oh inch resting-
I feel like thats a bug but huh
It honestly doesnt look like a bug to me tbh... But I hope it gets changed back cause the new cape looks so weird now-
Also, not practical as the cape clips through the shoulder pads in some emotes and stances-
Hello litol beans!
Guys is forest elder hair button back yet? Also, are the elder hairs still bought with ascended candles in this version of the beta. I don't have time to go to Eden and check.
no idea and yes
forest elder button was fixed in live i believe
read the patchnotes just to make sure
y'all just want forest elder and prairie elder cries in forgotten
It has been a long while since I've been to Eden on both live and beta, so thanks for the info.
hey yen
Imagine general chat chaos when the you die you server split from your friends in earth trial happens 
Hello Ralsei
I forgot to update beta this morning Oops
ral I swear I'll get you that qr eventually. I definitely forgot yesterday
prairie's hair is very funny. I like to rock it
So please no spoilers, but what was all of you all's favorite trial? I'm not super active on beta btw, so I haven't had the chance to test the trials on there.
Prairie elder hair lines up very nicely with the weasel mask ears and is HILARIOUS
No trial is my favourite. 
I love water and air 
water, probably. 
A bug in the piggyback can clear the trial of water without running on the ground……
This is a serious problem
What if they made it like in the other realms when you try and piggyback without experience, if you go too far up you just drop down on an invisible roof and are unable to go back down
one of the devs already said they don't nerf all the shortcuts because they're fun
i don't think i really have a favorite, air used to be but after the update it's just no longer as fun as it used to
i havent run air in a while, what happened?
not this update, after the redesign
in the recent update it seems like they fixed it and it is much more fun since you don't fall everytime you walk into a wind current
Are you telling me I should try for the 61st time...?
if i go now this will be the third time i have done the air trial over all lmao
I like Air but the last few updates yeez 
really? i haven't tried since the season went live, only did the water trial yesterday to check for the death loop
The hardest part is starting! You can do it!
a for effort skybot 
ohhh BIK BRAAAIIN MOMENT
the oogly earth cape change has been made to fix the rotationg star icon. maybe they'll find a solution to allow the older design not to have the original bug, but atm we have an oogly cape
did i miss anything as important as the kaipocolypse?
nothing dramatic has happened since I woke up I haven't backread overnight tho
i can see hints of patching piggyback rocket arguments but i could be wrong and thats about it
Morue, and the stars aren’t even fixed... 🙈
Evinsky, they aren't? In that case, you know what to do. 🙂
I checked and I can't see them moving. Wsn't that the issue, that they were spinning?
ok so I read a good 12 hours of conversation. recap:
patching piggyback in trials so you can't cheat
patching office glitching
people from live asking questions about trials
that's about the bulk of it really. office glitching and piggy back glitching convo went on for hours
You'll keep trying until you make it through, right @random gull?
thank you skybot but I've finishes all four trials multiple times already. I find them a fun challenge
wonder what skybot will say when the fire trial goes live
I think skybot would shut down with all the people screaming about the fuzzies 
"give the dust bunnies a hug for me
"
I'm just imagining skybot saying "then perish
"
Hello everyone, I have a serious question. Will Traveler Spirits Really Become Paid? It worries me.
No. Please read #beta-announcements
Tomorrow I'm getting Bat Cape Lite version. ||Air cape||
as it is now, no.
right now in beta, about half of the tree is accessible only to adventure pass holders. it has been said that this system is still a work in progress, so don't expect it to go live any time soon
I'm close to my third seasonal heart on beta
should get it today after work then about 7-8 more days to finish the last spirit
Ok. Thnks
watch the beta season end before I finish 
i'm a few candles behind
but i'm getting pants tomorrow 
There is an awful lot of misinformation going around right now, because someone heard something from someone else, but no one is really bothering to actually read the suggestion. We test out lots of stuff in beta that never make it to Live. This was a first idea proposed to us and many people have sent in feedback on it. There will probably be another suggestion soon. @spark lance
I'm close to my third seasonal heart on beta
should get it today after work then about 7-8 more days to finish the last spirit
@random gull did u have 80 seasonal candles bug?
Ugh come on...
Sky won't let me log in becuase there's an update that hasn't reached Android yet
Ugh come on...
Sky won't let me log in becuase there's an update that hasn't reached Android yet
@lilac oak nah it has reached android
Really? That update went out several hours ago. Is there any way to refresh you store?
nope. I bought the pass on floor is lava day (started with 21 candles) and have collected daily since minus one day because the season started after I went to sleep and I didn't get them before reset that day
I just got my third seasonal heart in beta today, and yet i still havent done dailies in live,
I know that update came like 11 hours ago cause I saw it as i was about to go to bed 
It says the last update was October 5th
Edit: nvm had to search for updates
extex try clearing your cache and force restarting the play store app
Uh.. I collected everyday and still need tomorrow's candles to finish my 3rd spirit tree🤔 and I got 40 candles... I don't think I missed anyday
I got 40 candles too, i missed quite a bit of quests that i couldnt complete casually, hmm
i missed one or 2 quests, and I missed the very first day of the season since it was released very late at night
I got 30 candles with pre-order, plus those handful from Vault when the season went live and I've done all quests every day. But I still need to finish Fire spirit's last two nodes and buy all hearts. Not sure how many candles that is?
259 candles is max today if you preodered properly (and didn't get extra bugged candles) and got candles that first day. 239 I think max if you missed that first day and did floor is lava bug order.
There was also the seasonal heart bug
So if you spent 3 candles on a defunct heart you're three candles short ?
yup those who got seasonal hearts that became normal hearts during the bug won't be able to complete the season. you can't repurchase the bugged seasonal hearts
Yes and no, you did spend them on a heart, but you're short a heart or two.
unless they fix it last minute like last time, though i doubt it since it turned into a regular heart and didnt just dissapear,
And last time it was the items that disappeared, so that felt like a bigger bug.
Fixed issue with Seasonal Spirits awarding regular hearts instead of Seasonal hearts—please note there are no plans to compensate for this bug. Please review the #beta-faq for more information.
#beta-announcements message
from beta updates
I recall someone saying not to get people hyped up thinking it might fix last minute too. If it happens then yay but don't get your hopes up if you were affected by the bug. Big part of beta is accepting the fact that items/currency/etc. may disappear with no compensation. We test these things so it's less likely to happen to live players who need compensations for it. Basically assume stuff can poof at any given time and don't get too attached to your beta stuff I'm totally not prepped to be buff moth again any minute now
We test these things so it's less likely to happen to live players who need compensations for it.
Carefully, they're a hero.
ive been secretly hoping for a progress wipe for a while, i made a mistake not getting the table and chibi the first time 
Why would a progress wipe help you get the table/chibi?
The only thing id be sad about losing are my sunglasses 
I mean I've been hoping for a progress wipe for a while too. but more because I am a chaos skykid and I wanna see chat o nyoom with people who are like what why 
Why would a progress wipe help you get the table/chibi?
You can reobtain the hearts you WASTED on other stuff. 
Shoot I hope this wasnt too harsh..
What do you mean? You get hearts from friends.
progress wipe would allow you to grab the candles from starter and founder packs again, as well as redo the old seasonal quests -- basically fast way of regaining hearts (using the candles from those two packs to buy out the regular spirit hearts once you've unlocked them)
Bold of you to assume i have friends
, seriously i have like just enough friends in live to get a heart every other day, and like,,, , 7 in beta 
What do you mean? You get hearts from friends.
Anxiety my dude.
Ok. Maybe I'm old school, but I never relied on spirits for hearts. Those were just for emergencies.
I would miss my wizard hat tho
guess I'll have to wear it on live more if beta progress wipe happens. I have so many friends on beta tho so no worries about gaining hearts. I'm at 31 with onl collecting light like once a week
i don't really rely on the spirits for hearts in live either, but knowing how empty the beta servers are, they're quite pivotal to unlocking max candle running capabilities for soloing ASAP in beta
31 hearts a day-
How many seasons have you guys been in beta?
One. 
All of them.
I've been on beta since just after rhythm ended in beta
this is my first -- i am a buff moth 
Oh yea, how did you guys join beta before the waves started coming after every season?
Thank you skybot, very kind 
@tiny umbra, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
It used to be through e-mail at first, before the game was released. Then there were invite waves here and on FB at various times, whenever the devs felt they needed some new more active players.
I didn't know sky existed until february there was an android invite in March and at the time I was on a friend's ipad on live and I was like I can play on my own phone heck yesssss and nyoomed to that beta so fast (my invite was through discord in March)
I’m also curious how people found out about the pre global launch beta.. like how did tgc have your email?
facebook of course facebook-
I would just like to announce that I am now at that last bit in Air trial where failure happened 60 times.
I could imagine Tgc sliding into people's emails,
"so.. I hear you like to play games
"
But wasnt it cause people signed up for said email? I know other betas do the same
Haha, no. There was an announcement on their Twitter and you could sign up to join. I think a lot of people originally came from Journey.
I also didn't know journey existed until february 
i heard about early testers being emailed?
I didn’t know about journey until July hahaha
I might have heard about them because I played Monument Valley and it has a similar vibe. But I did also play Journey.
I had no idea Journey existed until what, 2017?
But then I forgot it's name. So I couldn't play it. 
I got journey when it was free on ps4 in february and saw there were other games by the same company and sky was free so I went oh shiny and borrowed a friend's ipad for several months 
Sky's aesthetic is right up my alley honestly, I think the only reason I didn't find it sooner was cause I stopped raiding the app store for indie multiplayers early 2019-
totally not thinking of buying an ipad to find more indie games because ios is all the same so it's easier to code for and always gets indie stuff first like sky
ok but thats literally what i did except for art apps
I saw a lets play of journey way back in 2012, but didn't get to play it until i bought the pack with flower and flow on ps4. sky really does kind of follow journey in a way, but i like sky's flight more
probably because the whole game is based on flight 
I fount Sky through Fox Band's Coffin Dance video for the game's first anniversary. I was like "What is this game? It's so pretty! Is it on Steam? Sign me up."
And now I wish I knew of this game sooner. This game is literally pretty much all I ever wanted in a game. A peaceful with some risk, meet others and make friends, in a post apocalyptic world, and characters with unique personalities. And it's so environmental. And I always wanted to know what it felt like if you can fly. Sure there are several flight simulators out there, but Sky really hits home with how accessible everything is with flight, along with a few limitations. But you can't have everything. Think of the planes- 
Right. I'm now up to around 30 deaths on that last u-turn in Air trial. Is there any way to stop Sky kid from just standing up straight in the air and kicking in the flight mode earlier?
I literally have several friends who are waiting for steam release to pounce on sky cause thats the only platform they have, theyre gonna be such buff moths cause they listen to me ramble about sky every other day 
I accidentally found out I'm friends with several people in fox band (by sending that coffin dance video to one of them and saying "this is something I can see you doing" and they were like "lol I'm the coffin")
Right. I'm now up to around 30 deaths on that last u-turn in Air trial. Is there any way to stop Sky kid from just standing up straight in the air and kicking in the flight mode earlier?
@hollow compass how I get that is I switch flight mode to glide immediately and glide to the air currents instead of aiming for the platforms
I'm actually probably friends with a lot of semi-famous skykids and don't even know it because they're just Dave on my friends list
I can't do that. There is no button until it's too late and I'm already way off course. That's the whole issue I'm having: zero control over my "flight" path.
weird. it lets me switch basically as soon as I'm in the air
And even if, by some miracle of a chance, I manage to click the toggle and ALSO hit a platform, I immediately slide off from the force of the landing.
Some people want Sky to be a mobile exclusive. I want Sky to come to PC because my iPad is slowly dying and I wanna play the game in full HD 60 FPS with my little war machine. 
Okay this topic is over now. What's happening?
I hate Air trial. That's what's happening.
Im pretty sure the button is still there even if you cant see it ?
I rediscovered sky after playing journey on ps4 ... then I wanted more and found it back. I had actually started playing it in June 2019 but I quit after I reached prarie because I was so confused about the spirits having hair for sale
and I thought it was only about buying stuff... but after journey I downloaded it again in may and started playing and never stopped... kinda wish I had continued back then so I had been there for all seasons XD
I had a closer look: the toggle kicks in just as I fly over the first platforms.
But really, the biggest problem is probably that the "platforms" are just white blobs and depth perception is non-existent. I think I'm landing on something, but I'm not.
I wonder how the controls would work if it came to pc 
Who wants sky to stay mobile exclusive??? What would they gain from that
I think it's nice that is such a portable game, but I'm sure it would port well to other platforms also.
It was never going to stay a mobile exclusive game that’s the funny part
I want sky to be accessible to everyone no matter the platform eventually
be like minecraft and just last forever and be insanely popular and cross platform play with everyone
I'm also now going to report that I give up on Air trial. I will never be able to complete it.
Like the space bar for jump, long press spacebar for fly (not too long), F key for close winged mode, G key for open winged mode, ... ?
Some of us have blocky keyboards so movement would be... ugh but it would be interesting to see how they'd do it
Also the controls wouldn’t be that bad for pc, it was already fully functional on Mac for a short while
want me to help you out later or were you specifically trying to solo it?
Oh, that takes me back to good old Mac beta... 
Mac beta?? when was that ??? 👀
When I went into prarie I had that black screen bug
when the dinosaurs walked on earth
November 2018- June 2019
@random gull I was hoping that I could do it alone, but it's fine. I got the WL on the first day of the season, when the trials weren't as difficult. And I don't need the WL or hearts in Live, at least not for now.
Whoa
Make it compatible for chromebook and I can test how keyboard controls work
late but,
How many seasons have you guys been in beta?
mid-enchantment (joined through an old link), sanctuary and now prophecy
Also why would it be separate buttons to toggle flight? It would just be one button like it is on touch screen and controller lol
Oh, yes, black screen was fun! If someone held your hand they could lead you to caves and it would be fine again.
I know its different buttons in most pc games, but i guess one button would make it simpler 
I'm still stuck on F for fire, shift for flight mode, space bar for jump, V to switch dragons-
Articles... Dont give up... You will do it .. I believe u can .. Remember to take it wide...dont worry about taking glide back off theirs no need until you get to end shrine
Yeah but the game didn’t run well at all on my laptop so I just gave up and waited for my iOS beta invite
Oh, yes, black screen was fun! If someone held your hand they could lead you to caves and it would be fine again.
laughs in walked into the Vault blind
The controls on Mac were so clunky. I remember trying to do the lookout spirit in Wasteland and that was almost impossible.
articles of blep same i cant finish all new version of the trial. 
I can’t play games with keyboard at all it hurts my brain I need a controller in hand
Same, sera.
I play sky with controller
Maybe desktop would just be like, the same controls but with the mouse for movement instead of touchscreen, and then keyboard keys for things you cant do with one hand,
I would play sky with controller if they gave you the option to invert both camera axes :(
I played mostly PC until I bought a ps4 last year
now I'm pc, ps4, switch, and mobile because of sky definitely did not buy a switch specifically because of sky
They already have the controls set kaize u don’t have to think about it
I thought that was possible? Inverting the axis?
You can only invert the y axis
One day, I’ll become a tester, and write down and note bugs I come across
It’s the that invert flight? That inverts the x axis? I only invert the y
Space for jump, wasd for movement, shift for flight modes, e to interact with things, mouse for camera
Y'all flexing your Xboxes and PS4s, and I'm over here chilling with my Wii Mini and my Wii U. 
Invert flight also inverts the y axis but when you’re flying
It doesn’t have anything to do with the camera
Oohhh ok my bad
oooooops I haven't remembered to actually submit bug reports in several days
it's been like 3 updates so bugs probably aren't relevant anymore
Also if tgc were nice they would let you change keybindings on pc 
So basically your average 3rd person game?
Same .. I need invert both too for control ... But i actually love touch screen controls.. So responsive ...skys touch controls are perfect for me in everyway
Yeah I only invert my camera for games in the third person but too many games only allow you to invert one axis or don’t allow to you to change them at all
flight on keyboard sounds like it'd be quite a challenge without the ability to choose 360 degree flick direction for turns and spirals
Ooh, never thought of that. Double tap?
You can’t do spirals on controller either
I don’t think it’s really necessary for movement I just do it for fun
Flight was fine on keyboard, but that was before the system changed. So I don't know how smooth it would be now.
sideways spirals not so much, but the upwards one is useful for gaining some extra height in open wing mode
I just hold up to keep my height
Flash forward to 2022, PC beta: Aw heck the krill saw me swipes hand on keyboard instead of using the flight controls like im supposed to
Flicking doesn’t really gain height, it maintains it
It saves wing. 
Just holding down on the screen for me gives the same effect
It saves wing.
@dapper ginkgo Especially in Sanctuary
I'm imagining trying to do my play dead thing on a controller. like can you even open the emote menu mid flight on controller?
Yeah bc they’re different buttons
I feel like on PC the emote window would lag for a bit before opening
Why do u think that lol
How so?? 
When i candle run i try get all without touching the ground in every area.. That's how i play... Spins are a necessity for me to beable to turn inside a room quickly without hitting walls or do sharp turns to next candle ..
hmm, now that i think of it, a keyboard has so many more buttons -- imagine custom keybinds for specific emotes 
The question is would tgc let you change keybindings 😔
Press F to spam 
That’s another reason why I can’t play pc games, I’m left handed and wasd is not for left handed people
And most games don’t let you change
My experience with multiplayer pc games is niche unity games that aren't as well taken care of as most games, but have (or had) some great oob spots
idk im just used a lot of lag on pc,,, like,, a lot
ah, they didn't put in arrow control as an alternative for wasd? yeah, that'd be annoying for a lefty
Arrow control doesn’t really help when you need things like e to open menus
I'm a righty and I always play with arrow keys! 
yes I like to suffer
I would still need my left hand on the keyboard when I need it for the mouse
I wonder if the eventual pc/mac versions will have a beta. I know switch doesn't because nintendo doesn't allow it.
Maybe they will revive it?
Well a personal computer isnt owned by a strictly gaming company so i think itll have a beta
Hopefully. Most of Sky seems to be built by community feedback. But who knows?
Yeah but the nature of downloading things on pc means that a beta would be spread like wildfire so maybe they won’t go for it this time
Sky was still just a babby with only a few thousand players back when Mac was being tested
Ohh true true. And PC gaming is a much more scary world. So there's bound to be a lot of 'hmm' people.
Come to think of it, I actually think I got beta access to Mac before iOS phone.
I got Mac before iOS too
yeah people already download beta by illegitimate means on android and ios.
it'd be hard to prevent people from doing that on pc when it's much easier to mess with game files there.
Mac in November and iOS in December
On iOS at least there’s still a hard cap of people who can play beta
it's such a foreign experience to hear of a mac-only beta and not a PC one 
I do wonder about that announcement that phone games would be playable on Mac in the near future, though. Or did that already happen?
And my family just got me off the family computer... I might have to break the rules to test on Mac if it ever comes back. 
apple devices are easier to code for because there isn't a lot of device variety so generally ios and mac get indie things before android and pc do
Yeah, I was wondering about compatibility.
Hmm... think it'll do crossplay?
Tgc has said they’re aiming for crossplay between all platforms
Mac and iOS had crossplay in beta
They pay for the servers so
It was crossplay. I still have my old Mac Sky kid in my constellation.
just my guess on this one, but quite certain they'd be doing crossplay -- that would defeat the purpose of letting players interact with one another if they didn't
MULTIPLAYER WILL BE FREE ON SWITCH?! 
As far as I know, if Switch games can crossplay, you usually don't need to pay for online.
We don’t know that
Yeah but you would need a switch, first of all 
don't you need to pay for internet access on the switch?
No. Oh, wait...do you? I don't remember.
I'm pretty sure all online services require the online pass on switch (regardless of whether the developer wants that or not) because nintendo
That’s not true
hmm, i'll need to do a little more reading on that then, i was under that impression myself 
well then I haven't found a game yet that doesn't need my online pass
it's not too bad like $20 a year
Warframe
what's the next trial? 
Fortnite
fortnites on switch ?
Ye
well that explains it. warframe is just not up my alley and fortnight is meh. it's intriguing but not enough to get into the community
Just ignore the communities of the games you play ez
Not this one though.
Or turn off your mic 👁️
true. I already pretend my mic doesn't work on other online games
sky's the only place I like chatting with peeps
Or turn off your mic 👁️
And turn off your speakers. 👁️
Besides, even if I did turn on my mic, you wouldn't hear much out of me. 
I'm a silent player you may say.
I pretend my mic doesnt work every where but my zoom teacher keeps finding out 
I just speak really quietly until my teachers give up and never call on me again. Anxiety my friend.
will a pc port ever happen, probably not, sigh...
Yes it will
Since i played sky other games are lacking substance... Ive deleted all games i have now ...unless its a game which has better physics and graphics music than sky ( which dont exist) i dont even give other games a try anymore lol.... Mobile games btw ...even though i dont even play my consoles anymore
They’ve said they plan to release the game on pc since it released on iOS
I know how the music system works on pc cause other online pianos share a similar system to sky, my problem is it sucks
my friend might start playing it on switch or pc when they come out so now i'm really excited to be able to play with them when we should be doing our APWH homework
? It’s basically the same as on touch screen
Piano is
Qwert
Asdfg
Zxcvb
All 15 buttons
Just do the same thing that Sky Music App does and- wait. It overlays with the WASD keys. MOVING IT TO THE LEFT SIDE.
I need to control myself. I'm getting a little too playful.
Press them the same
Yeah but,
The keys are slanted on the keyboard,
So instead of a box of 15
Its a rhombus of 15
imagine attaching a midi keyboard to play like in synthesia
Well tgc didn’t invent keyboards 😔
that's gonna take me a while to get used to (unless touchscreen laptop compatibility)
I'm starting to feel like we're asking for a bit much. But there's so much potential with a keyboard.
Midi keyboard to phone for sky.. Omg id love that...
Wait, can't we just attach a Bluetooth keyboard to our iPads and use keyboard controls there minus the mouse?
They could probably make it so the music buttons are in the number keys but’s that’s only 9 notes
I already use a bluetooth keyboard sometimes for chat on my phone. makes typing a bit easier
Wait, can't we just attach a Bluetooth keyboard to our iPads and use keyboard controls there minus the mouse?
i tried, didnt work
I went to see the compatible controllers with Sky. Nope. 
yeah keyboard only works for chat
and not all bluetooth keyboards work for chat. I have two and the cheaper one won't type when I pull up chat
magic keyboard
Merch shop .. Blue tooth sky piano /midi keyboard 👀 (not typing keyboard) ivory keys type
bluetooth keyboards are dangerous in this game: they make typing so easy that you're tempted to chat mid-flight, which results in a lot of wall-bonking accidents 
Easy solution. Hold hands with someone.
I bonk into walls without typing. I'm just bad at flying
I'd be typing at the speed of light ya hear? They'd be like "How are you so fast?!" And I'd be like "I use a keyboard. sunglasses" And I'd have a lot less mistypes as well so that's another benefit.
I bonk into krill while typing something mid air
And I was ubering 4 ppl
i challenge you all to do a full cr without typing once
It'd probably more useful if you don't have a mini series of iPad, because you can reach your hand while still holding it one.
Merch shop: an entire computer.
I’m entirely joking but customized keyboard keys with the symbols being the music symbols would be amazing 👀
No I did not think this through, no letters we type blind 
i challenge you all to do a full cr without typing once
I call it 'having no friends'.
Merch shop: an entire computer.
this line alone makes me want to put a wishlist request to make all the computer chairs in the office chat seats
All my friends are on the other side of the globe. So I kinda have to do it alone.
I would fail that challenge. I do a candle run and usually at least 2 people show up mid run to say hi and join me sometimes
You guys are talking on cr?? Even when my friend warps to me it’s just “honk” “honk” “hoooonk” “so what you up to” “cr” “ok” “honk”
i challenge you all to do a full cr without typing once
@spark lance just get moth bug all the time you will okay with this challenge
i do strict no-talking CR's, so
challenge mode: make a friend and unlock warp with them but not chat 
this line alone makes me want to put a wishlist request to make all the computer chairs in the office chat seats
@sullen relic put this in wishlist that would be so good, but maybe just a certain section of the office, so we can still climb on them without the buttons popping up 👀
Imagine if some of the screens turned on if you sat on their chairs. And they showed videos or screenshots of their previous games.
Talking about moth bug. Is network connection condition have something involved into it?
imagine if you can actually use the computers in the office
Hi am new to sky children please may you explain what is in the beta and how you would be able to access it
it might factor in season intro, i don't think anyone's entirely sure
Imagine if some of the screens turned on but it was a (low quality to protect privacy) screenshot of the dev’s computers
hOLY FRICK COOL--
@random gull, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
hOLY FRICK COOL—
Yes
Hi Coolery ! Check faq for the whole thing, and please read the rules, welcome to sky !
Fancy seeing you here, Cool. You can read #beta-faq and #beta-signup-info for more info. We come in as waves. It'll be a few months until the gates are open again.
@random gull but in some case
My friend's outfit already loaded then suddenly they are became moth.
Same i do no talking candle runs ...
Thank you all for the information
If anything is confusing, long story short, this is where we test new stuff that comes into sky, not necessarily a vet hang out(though I’m getting the feeling that’s a common assumption
, even though few of us are considered veterans), but if you want to talk about the game there’s also the non beta channels !
I just hang in the beta channels because it's a lot calmer and it's easier to keep track of conversations in here.
perpetual slowmode
idk if I'd be considered a vet since I'm still terrible at flying and only been here since February 
I'm not a vet at all. I joined mid July. 
I don’t know if I’m considered a vet cause I’ve only been here since April but I can chibi glitch so
I’ve been here since March, I don’t consider myself to be a vet 
Every vet has a moth inside
me sitting here in beta since november last year 
I just realized July was 3 months ago. Oh gosh it feels a lot shorter than that.
Yea see Aeras is one of the buffest moths here 
android beta was a wild time back then
We will be considered veterans in due time. Just not now.
What do you mean? It’s still March
I have one tiny muscle, I’m not a buff moth I’m a well exercised one
the silence I’m-

I was one of those android beta moffs in March 
It’s still March which means it’s still rhythm y’all get yourself them pants
and the owl hair
Today is March 220th
OWL HAIR OWL HAIR OWL HAIR
then i think i am still in the cocoon stage
i keep forgetting that rhythm lasted pretty long, it only lasted 12 days in beta 
You could barely get anything, could you?
Wait I did the math it’s March 221
is there a final cutscene for the season of prophecy?
i actually got quite a bit. missed the last node on blow kiss and never got the respect spirit, but i did the rest
Respect to y’all who got owl hair, Im not jealous it’s just a blinding rage at the item itself
how dare I join sky the month after the owl season passes, like ? Do you know who I am ? 
i also got both ultimates since i got owl hair when it was on the thinking spirit
I want the owl hair because it reminds me of my 14th favorite character. 
It's also pretty. I'll abandon my current hair for that one.
i remember when the switch happened with owl hair and piano, people got so mad. they thought that the hair wasn't extravagant enough to be an ultimate
Yes the hair was pretty bland let us all go back in time to rhythm beta and under hype the hell out of rhythm hair it wasn’t that good give it to the moths give it (joke)
also, winter piano used to look like regular piano on your back, and would fold out into the full version when you took it out to play. it was so cool 
I joined in late April. The biggest mistake I made is brought the founders cape but didn't get the AP
People like the owl hair because it’s the ultimate of the season they envy most
i joined sky during rhythm, but didn't know what a season was, so i collected two emotes thinking they were regular spirits, not collecting cosmetics because it was my first runthrough, and then left the game at wasteland because I was playing at 11pm and the krill gave me a heart attack, rejoined around mid-enchantment, and didn't know where the pants went in the closet 
I didn't even like the owl hair at first XD I just got it because I was like I paid money for this and I am getting it whether I want it or not
I personally like it cause I’m an owl fanatic who memorized owl species names as a 3rd grader and it still haunts me to this day, especially since quite a bit of the scientific names changed and I still haven’t gone back and corrected my knowledge
does anyone know what the trial of earth is? like water is the trial of patience, fire is courage, air is balance, what's earth?
they had to revert the winter piano because people were also angry that they 'changed the design' to be smaller, when in reality they added the animation, but we couldn't test it at first since it was still the ultimate. once the switch happened and people saw the animation, the team was already in the process of switching it back 
or maybe i'm remembering beta rhythm wrong
@brisk condor resilience
It's always fascinating to see how things that were looked down upon during the season become highly coveted only a few months later as some of the "best" items.
i love all owl hair give me sir hoot
Owl hair is okay. It’s just that it was originally a regular spirit cosmetic and they just moved it to the ultimate slot and didn’t change a darn thing about it.
I like the little tuffs coming from the hair. It's honestly unique. 
Owl hair is god tier simply because it is an owl, if they added the tufts to literally any other cosmetic I would jump on it without question
if i see one owl hair skykid on my candle run my day is complete ✨
I mean I definitely love owl hair now. it looks so cute with a lot of the newer cosmetics and it's the reason I get everything in a season even if I don't necessarily like it at first because I might like it with somethnig else later
@vapid briar honestly you could literally put anything in the ultimate spot and players would go crazy over it simply because of its status
I did the water trial in live with an owl hair kid 👀 it was so cool
i love owl hair, but i'm kinda sad that i probably won't be able to get it since its an ultimate. i can only enjoy it in beta 
Ral people go nuts over winter piano too and it's gonna be on a TS eventually 
I'm excited for that ts i miss rhythm a lot 😔
If they bring back Ults as IAPs, I don't care if it's 10 bucks. I don't care if it's 15. It'd better not go over 20 though I WANT OWL HAIR and I'm buying it.
I will sell my soul to TGC for bonfire er I mean I'd pay $20 for bonfire 
People go nuts over most cosmetics tbh, Kai (especially their weird fascination with pants)
Everyone forgets Rhythm had 2 ultimate items, so sure the hair felt underwhelming at the time, but that and the mask create a unique look.
@pulsar edge weird fascination? you mean totally valid fascination
Rhythm ult mask is still my favorite after weasel 
if you don't mind me asking ktjn, why was the animation for winter piano removed?
I’m still sad the rhythm piano didn’t keep its new look 😔
I'm pretty satisfied with sky's IAP method. Like sky is not a p2w game or a gacha game. I like it battle-pass system
The pants make you look different. No brown tunic anymore. You have a blue shirt and big puffy pants.
ikr seraph? it was so cool
Waiting....................
We received an overwhelming amount of feedback regarding the change to the winter piano, so it was reverted.
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fearbot is sleepy today 
I think rhythm wasn’t a great time to introduce a second ultimate gift if I’m being honest. It seems like you got caught up in the idea of having two and you didnt really have the time and/or resources to make two new items like with every season since then.
I want the winter piano cause it (technically) gives the regular piano 15 higher notes, but I do admit it’s beautiful 
so i did remember correctly 
i thought there was a shirt closet and a pants closet during my two days of rhythm, because of the rhythm pants
when i couldn't find them in the closet anymore i assumed that i went crazy and made up those pants in my mind
But again, aesthetics are subjective, we're never going to make everyone happy 100% of the time. Ultimate items aren't necessarily meant to be insanely functional or fancy, they are a token to show you had 100% completion of a season. If we attempted to one-up ourselves every season with the ultimates, we'd be designing things that were more complex for the sake of being complex, instead of designing things that fit the narrative of the respective season.
Ral, you shouldn’t make assumptions on how the workload at tgc is doing like that
Yep,, people were pretty negative and hostile about the animation change to the winter piano so we scrapped it. It may return in another item in the yet-to-be-determined future.
Sera it’s purely an observation
It's also an incorrect observation of what happened and why we introduced 2 items.
Ral are you gonna be changing your name with every trial that comes to live 
I kinda like the two tier ultimate system. gives you a chance to get one of two ults if you're not a hardcore daily grinder
I said nothing about why you did it
I feel like the first ultimate is always the most popular, the enchantment tassels, the handpan, I even see the rhythm black mask more than I do owl hair,
@random gull but compared to daliy full cr. The 10 min daliy quest really, really is a relexing things
its ok. with this season the first ult wont be popular anymore 
no but your message above implies that our decision was sloppy or lazy.
More people have the first ult, so I assume that’s why you see more of them
Ktjn, are there going to be more head accessories in the future like the earmuffs, birthday hat, etc?
No need for details. I just wanna know for the foreseeable future.
I like the look of it. I just don't often have enough friends with instruments to play a percussion part
I could do a one man band type thing and record myself playing various parts tho
No I’m saying it felt a little rushed the same way I feel you pushed prophecy to live too early
It's okay if you don't like the Rhythm Ultimate items, but you can also just express that opinion without attempting to justify your stance by making assumptions about the development team.
@vapid briar i just want to say the fox mask at your ava looks funny
I don’t hate the cosmetic. Y’all really think that’s what I’m trying to say here
We've definitely heard your feedback about more accessory items and hope to incorporate more items like that in the future.
weasel mask on a krill
Reika thank you for that lovely image
gotta admit, it's kinda terrifying seeing what happens when the artist devs get bored and start memeing with sky assets 
more sky dev memes pls 
I for one welcome the new weasel krill overlord
the googly eyes is a wonderful blessing from Reika, it's delightfully absurd. 
As a programmer I totally understand what's the cost to introduce a new back prop in game. I instantly brought the lantern
gotta admit, it's kinda terrifying seeing what happens when the artist devs get bored and start memeing with sky assets
It's always nice to see devs being casual and fun.
imagine if they do put googly eyes on krills for april fools
it's also perfectly apt as a "what in the world are you lot getting up to now?" facial expression whenever you pop in on us going on offtopic tangents 
still hoping for that incredible creation to make it to the game one day 
strawberry kikrill in game when 
it's also perfectly apt as a "what in the world are you lot getting up to now?" facial expression whenever you pop in on us going on offtopic tangents
@sullen relic still surprised none of the devs or mods came in to stop the kai-pocalypse a few days ago


Well the Kai thing was still technically beta stuff cause it would have zero context outside of here 
There's still plenty of Kais running around here. It's not done yet.
Well the Kai thing was still technically beta stuff cause it would have zero context outside of here
Good. I like inside jokes.
I mean yeah I do basically live in the beta channels. general chat only sees me pop up every once in a while (it's weird that people there recognize me honestly)
"hi kai!"
50 people respond
Gen chat is scary
Well you have 170k friends, no?
Will on April Fool, Dev make our skykids have that eye?
I probably do have several hundred at least. I have to block a lot of people to find specific friends and then unblock once I found them keep hoping for infinite friend list to happen
But still I avoid Sky Gen like the plague. I lock myself in the beta chat because it's pretty overwhelming out there. 
I pop into gen chat and lore chat every now and then, but my most frequent channel after beta is probably the questions channel

april fools this year was great. I had a blue name for a whole day
got to live my dream of working for TGC for 24 hours
Anyone else nervous about if the seasonal heart bug happens? I’ve been thinking about it all day
if it happens on live you'll get reimbursed Chaos
They already fixed that bug anyway
I get nervous lol

That’s just the price of beta 
Yeah, sometimes general is a bit much.
It's peaceful here, I'm tired of other players arguing and insulting each other on Facebook about game changes.
Facebook is bad? Try Twitter.
I'm going to live in the cave lol
that happens here too a little don't bring up ultimates returning or the ap locked TS. just gets deleted or buried by positive chat a lot faster.
Facebook is bad? Try Twitter.
@dapper ginkgo you may have a look at the jenova's tweeter. Ppl against each other a lot.
No thanks. Different topic please. 
that happens here too a little
don't bring up ultimates returning or the ap locked TS. just gets deleted or buried by positive chat a lot faster.
@random gull is good to have a wild time as long as we got feedback channel. But for pure argument, there will never comes a good outcome.
i've got two badge notifications on beta that aren't clearing, and i don't see anyone on my friends list whom i haven't claimed any outstanding gifts of light from -- any idea what else may be causing them?
sometimes the conversations here can turn up constructive even if negative. I think the thing to remember is that people will have different opinions and constructive criticism is different from insulting 
I’m pretty sure gen chat was supposed to be more chill than beta, odd how it’s the opposite 
Spearmonkey, have you cleared your notifs informing you of the gifts of light ?
People here were being disrespectful to others because they had different opinions, right? Hence my previous nickname "Lord Chromebook Says 'Be Nice'".
gen chat is terribly hard to keep up with, especially when the devs pop in 
i see no banner notifications at all when checking notification center, that's what's really confusing me 
the devs pop into gen chat and it becomes a madhouse
TGC devs are basically like celebrities here meanwhile beta chat is roasting the devs like they're one of us
that actually happened to me a few weeks ago, so I ended up disabling badge notifs for beta 
never pinpointed the cause, though
You can turn off notifications for sky beta if you want, I still have badge notifs for beta, but I’m pretty sure that’s cause I rarely gift light or send light
nah, i actually use them -- it's these unconfirmed 2 that's making me rack my brain right now 
Maybe it’s a new emote in the menu? Or a new music sheet ? Did you unlock anything recently?
right click (or long press on mobile) and mark the chats as read? it might be network lagging to confirm you read the chat nvm I'm thinking discord notifications
hmm, i'll double check everything again when i get home after sanctuary, though i don't remember buying anything lately that i haven't already checked
I’ll go clear my badge notifs and see if I’m experiencing the same problem, it could be device
Spearmonkey I have that problem for Live too it lasted a week already never get to pinpoint the cause of it 😔
Huh, all my badges cleared,
How many friends do you have in beta, I lit all their friend stars, so I don’t know what would have happened if I didn’t
last i counted was like, 44 (a couple of blocked ones, i checked those already -- nothing from them)
Maybe you can submit a bug report ?
tempted to spend an hour counting my friends now
looks like that's an idea, yeah -- i checked on my phone as well, and it's showing the same notification count
Just an hour?👀
I will time it 
I think there’s a sky world record for how many friends, but I’m not sure 
Each page fits the same ammount except favourites ... Add up like that.. Can get a rough number
I have WAY more friends than the constellation can even hold
like at least double that constellation in beta alone. my live account is probably triple
I think the coveting part of the owl hair and mask really are because it’s not attainable anymore...
That's probably the reason for the hype of quite a bit of the ultimates, and also cause you can match it to so many things in the wardrobe, if the rabfox mask was an ult instead of the deer mask it would be much more highly sought after if ults return
They would probably call the deer mask too intricate, which is true in my case, too intricate for me
, but beautiful on other people
I just want the bonfire for recharge and chat functionality
and glitching. but table can do most of the glitching bonfire can
sorry um, i wanna ask smth. is it normal that i have to update the beta app with 830mb size everyday? it really drowns my internet..
i miss having my bonfire in live
but even if i was able to get it, i don't have money to spend anyways 
Hi! It's normal yes, I'm sorry if it drains your internet, since youre technically downloading the full app again with every update
Myucel beta tends to have a lot more updates than live yes. lots to fix and lots to test
i see, thank you for the response 🙏
Generally tho are all seasons priced at $10? I noticed that belonging was actually $13 ><
I dont see people hyping the lightseekers ult umbrella as much, but the lightseekers regular umbrella spirit yes
maybe because there's a smaller umbrella that came on a TS already?
Windy, I think that’s because even without the ult umbrella, there is a regular umbrella that serves that purpose
Yes I mentioned that 
bonfire really is unique in it's functionality. no other item in the entire game can do what it can do
The manta cape will probably be really popular and sought after in a few months
@random gull i guess that’s why the price for the belonging pass was higher than the other passes, it’s a really good item >< hopefully we get something similar to do that in a future season
manta cape is so cute
it'll definitely be popular
imagine if they left in the ablility to light the bonfire before placing it down and being able to light things? so op
Tbh manta cape looks way prettier when we actually use it than how it looked just in the closet first in beta. I wasn’t a fan of it first when we had the chance tomtry it on.
yeah, manta cape 
regret not being active enough to get it
The manta cape, sunglasses, and onesie were really criticized in beta, now theyre all pretty popular (yes i hated the sunglasses, yes my beta skykid wears them all the time, no i still hate the onesie- I do admit its adorable its just not my style )
I wear the onsie as a chibi sometimes for lols. I definitely still like my rhythm pants best tho
Don’t hurt the onsies. My favourite item from the season 
At any point I think what’s most important is for us to realize, we really do represent a small minority... I didn’t like the fact that the earth and air capes were so similar in color — but on a broader scale, maybe the sky community loves the two new purple additions to their wardrobe ><
jesus christ, what is that
bonfire was super buggy when we first got it 
ITS SO BIG
O,g that’s a huge campfire hahhahahaha
if i recall bonfire wasn't implemented until much later, right?
What season;s cosmetics were you guys the biggest fans off? Minus the ultimate gifts!
I personally like the colors of the earth and air capes, their both unique cosmetics without the colors,
A question for beta vets what was the reaction to the lightseekers piggyback and shush capes, and how similar they are 
That’s a stake... not a bonfire
(Poor beta crabs)
yeah, it was a table before they implemented the assets
i vaguely remember that, around that time i began lurking here
That’s a great question windy XD I was wondering the same too >,< both capes were similar but they;re so different
Enchantment cause moth nostalgia, Belonging cause its all so cozy and sweet, Rhythm because owl, gratitude for that warm and exciting feel, tbh im only ever hyped for the lightseekers instruments, sanctuary is so chill and bright, prophecy just started i have no opinion
I loved rhythm so much because blue is my favorite color
definitely didn't spend $40 (long story) on office cape to have a pretty blue cape
I think prophecy and belonging are hands down my two faves >< I love the braided hair from enchantment tho
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming 
No sky bot, I really didn’t fore see your corny joke XD hahahaha.. sky bot making dad jokes left and right
skybot is fireboi pass it on
I love the prophecy cosmetics they have this spirit mentor vibe perfectly
The masks are weird but it’s a nice change
Yes ! The prophecy cosmetics are really nice and well done, they feel like the clothing change before you start a never before seen adventure
which it is actually ! Cause of the trials
For me the office cape isn’t really my favorite color combo >,< like I love the blue but the black/deep blue combo on the inside isn’t my cup of tea sighh
They’re the perfect cosmetics to venture into Eden very adventurous and empowering
oh man I like the black version better than the beta white version myself 😮
I be scaring away krill with my lion mask
My favorite cape has to be the new one for the Halloween event tho if capes were a daily thing irl I’d wear it everyday
They feel sort of? Graduationy ? Like how sanctuary's cosmetics during the season were playful and fun but after the season feel bittersweet and laid back, Prophecy's cosmetics feel like you were one of the student spirits the prophets were teaching and youre much more knowledgeable ?
@random gull isn’t it amazing how that works? Like something that I don’t like would be something someone else would love XD
I’m not sure about you guys but don’t you love how tGC captures texture and weight of the capes so well? Like belonging capes felt like they were made of silk
And enchantment capes out of a harder almost carpet like cloth
yeah! enchantment wasn't my favorite (aside from wizard hat) for myself but it makes me so happy seeing others enjoying those cosmetics
I appreciate all the designs even if I don't wear it myself because someone is bound to love it
Yes ive noticed the textures ! The lightseekers capes feel as thin as paper, while the belonging capes are like a cozy knit sweater? The enchantment capes feel like the scratchy sari fabric your grandma has woven and thick threads, almost like silk 
And and the way the gratitude capes feel so fluffy 😍😍
Im actually more interested in how any skykid flies with the gratitude white fur cape than i am with the texture, it just looks so heavy 
I’m actually super sad that I played the game during gratitude but didn’t know about seasons and ended up quitting playing —- mannnn if only I stayed I could have gotten the dismiss cape ;-;
Someone in beta just reported my friend for doing prophecy emotes .. At first they put up the no emote ... Crazyness..
I got reported yesterday for being tiny ... Some beta players must not even of played sky before becoming beta tester
How do you guys know you got reported?
Asked them... Then they swiped off
There's a lot of misinformation about whats a hacker and whats not, oof
This is where I’m happy that it’s not an automatic expulsion... I’m glad that your account and activity is reviewed first before being given the boot haha

