A VERY useful Feature would be to auto collect wax from each section... now that worth the price of pins
#beta-discussion
karmic thistle
strong canopy
there is no problem with the pin tho
hidden quarry
dont think it was ever intended to work, just as you cant go backwards in some other realms
lusty light
But you really could only backtrack in 3 temples and 1 of them you’re obviously not supposed to
strong canopy
we just find it funny and we're annoyed they remove a simple feature from us
lusty light
(Walks up to a closed door) (somehow gets back inside the temple)
karmic thistle
You can go back from Waste to Valley and they haven't touched it yet....untill a pin features it at least
lusty light
It wasn’t a feature it was just something they couldn’t fix until now
strong canopy
just to give value to an item they want to sell
hidden quarry
doesnt that defeat the purpose of playing the game. why not buy candle packs instead
karmic thistle
Blocking the wall is an easy fix but they never intended to...untill the really bad temple warp idea now
lusty light
There’s other things in the game that have been broken for a long time but they just don’t have time to fix it
copper bison
I think I've only ever backtracked a few times, and one was live moth not knowing that realm portals existed and thought only the isle portal existed.
I don't really mind the backtracking being removed, though again i never really used it sooo- 
tiny umbra
Is backtracking back outside the temple, like say from prairie temple to the islands a not intended feature too? Cause I notice it’s not a thing in forest or wasteland, and I rely on it to farm sanctuary
minor robin
But like, it’s a pin that is first and foremost a pin/optional merch. It’s a nice physical thing to have but I appreciate that the STAR feature isn’t op or makes others feel left out. The price of the pins and shipping can be quite costly to some people. There’s also people who own devices that don’t have STAR capability
empty river
we shouldn't be angry that tgc is finally getting around to polishing the game
lusty light
Hide and seek for example has been broken for launch and no one even knows how it was supposed to function
strong canopy
well there are annoying broken things tho
lusty light
They’re a small dev team and there’s a lot of bugs but they have to focus on seasons instead of fixing things because then people will be mad that they’re not making content
strong canopy
"fixing" something that adds value to the items they wanna sell... weird
lusty light
Ktjn said they fixed the temple bug because it was causing confusion for new players
karmic thistle
Backtracking isn't a broken feature...it's part of the natural realm
strong canopy
im not really mad, i just find it's a not nice move
lusty light
Your first play through the game literally says you can’t backtrack until you finish the game
It wasn’t supposed to be a feature
karmic thistle
Then explain why you can backtrack from Waste to Valley....no pin yet that's why
tiny umbra
Well no ones really gonna think “oh well backtracking is gone, guess I’d better buy the pins”
strong canopy
people who would have hesitated will more likely be interested more than before in buying em
copper bison
Oh, the whole "you can't go back into <realm>" was supposed to be for beating the entire game then you could go back? Cause once I beat Valley it kinda just let me back into isle-
karmic thistle
Well pins need a better function....they seemed really suspicious with this one lol
tiny umbra
It’s not hard, to get to the prairie temple, ?
empty river
or they could just...fly to the temple. its not like tgc blocked access to the prairie temple lol
lusty light
I remember when I first started playing I got to wasteland and got scared so I wanted to go back to fun prarie land and it said No
karmic thistle
Backtracking makes the game feel fluid...I can choose where to go freely almost as if it was "open world"
worn field
yeah you can use portals once you finish valley, it must have changed at some point but i don't know exactly when. months ago i think
karmic thistle
Moths just stay on prairie lol
tiny umbra
I don’t think it changed, it wouldn’t be fair to force moths to finish wasteland before going back to sunny prairie 👀
minor robin
Definitely around January, I was a moth who got really terrified of krills so I just skated around valley rink ghfhfgfff visited prairie a little too
karmic thistle
I hope that wall is a beta only feature \🤭
worn field
kinda nice to give moths the choice to go through wasteland, i think
until you're done with valley tho, the game really encourages you to Keep Moving Forward
copper bison
the reason why i noticed it pretty quickly was because im one of those people who go "im not leaving this area until i get everything" and i left isle early without getting a spirit and when i tried to go back the game went "nope"
empty river
yea there's a neat little "you must finish your adventure" message
lusty light
Well when I was playing I was also anxious about getting everything but that was before constellation gates and such were preventing me from getting overwhelmed
minor robin
Mr. Wall: This would be something to submit to #beta-feedback with a lot of reasoning + support for your opinion. Ktjn mentioned people were literally getting stuck with backtrack and that’s why they fixed it
karmic thistle
yea there's a neat little "you must finish your adventure" message
@empty river that's fine as a new player...but as an older players you use it to fast farm the maps
copper bison
that stopped when i got krilled twice in wasteland though, then i just got scared and ran into vault as fast as possible
lusty light
But if you’re already farming the maps wouldn’t you just go from the beginning ?
empty river
why not just finish prairie if youre farming?
karmic thistle
I honestly backtrack a lot from the already available maps
rustic imp
If I’m candle farming then o do prairie from the start and forest from the start. No back track needed
karmic thistle
I've been farming from beginning to end....now I go from end to beginning xD
lusty light
But why would you do that lol
rustic imp
How do you do vault though
minor robin
One thing I do use for the forest to pairie backtrack: U-turn of shame cause I forgot a candle cake lmaoo
karmic thistle
Makes the game fun and interesting... keeps the farming adventure alivr
lusty light
Also vault is The level where backtrack isn’t even an option
copper bison
yeah, vault-wasteland is just a dead end
karmic thistle
If they would have fixed it at any other time oh well then....cry a river somewhere else....but with the pin it's all too suspicious xD
lusty light
You can’t even buy the pins anymore
hidden quarry
i dont think they fixed this bug just to spite people
tiny umbra
that stopped when i got krilled twice in wasteland though, then i just got scared and ran into vault as fast as possible
@copper bison as a moth I literally made eye contact with the lookout scout but with everything I read I got so scared about the gate opening I did Not want to take that chance, so I walked past them
karmic thistle
Like a i said earlier....when they introduced the star feature... everyone said they could just go back from Forest....big RIP cuz devs said....ohhh wise guys uh
slim kayak
Best time to fix things is in between beta seasons. Makes sure that us tester are always bug hunting 
copper bison
yeah, krills are pretty scary first time you play as long as you don't get spoiled
tiny umbra
People said the same (though opposite) thing about the lightseekers cape pin and the shush spirit coming as a ts around the same time, it’s not influenced by the pins
lusty light
It’s not like tgc is rubbing their little dev hands somewhere trying to figure out what will make the community hate them next
karmic thistle
Lol almost %99 of people already got the cape cuz of TS....that feature really needs a do over or something xD
lusty light
But the point of buying the pins is to have a pin
The features is a bonus
It’s not even compatible with all devices
tiny umbra
And I’m sure the weasel mask pin is gonna give us weasel masks even though that ts has come twice, it’s just a cool pin
karmic thistle
I'm not referring to the pins itself...they are beautiful on their own, I meant the Star Feature and it possible affecting some aspects of the game
possible
lusty light
Saving a few minutes isn’t really affecting gameplay
slim kayak
Honestly I just think the pins look cool. Plus people will be like "woah cool pin where's that from" and then i can tell them to play sky 
lusty light
It’s not like they just straight up locked the temples
copper bison
i think the pins are cool by themselves, i wouldn't buy it cause the feature. i'd buy it cause it's cool. (it's not even compatible with my device.)
it doesn't effect too much, just shaves off a few minutes of whatever you need to do with it.
empty river
this just in prairie temple doesnt exist anymore
karmic thistle
I already bought one btw xD
tiny umbra
Man I wish, that weasel pin is so pretty 
slim kayak
No going to temple for your spirits. Go straight to eden 
karmic thistle
Useful pin feature:
Collects wax from each section you are in...now that
Shut up and take my money.jpg
tiny umbra
And the isle pin is also a thing, chances are it’ll take us straight to isle temple too, which would be, useful, and possibly in the future so would the other temples
slim kayak
But wouldn't that make it an unfair advantage? Tgc doesn't want their iap to be like that
hidden quarry
i thought of the pins more as something solid to express your love for the game, and the features were just a fun addition
slim kayak
Or well, purchases in general
empty river
also theyre pins
their main function: pin
worn field
i think the devs want to avoid pay-to-win things like that... also, why would they sell something that discourages you from actually playing around in the levels
copper bison
if you could automatically get wax from each section of the game that'd kinda be like if beta had candle iap open but you could only buy <insert amount of wax you can get each day, it's around like 17 or 18 cause wasteland sundays and decimal points that i'm too lazy to include> each day
but you'd have to buy the pin i guess
karmic thistle
If lantern doesn't heal....should be half price then tbu
hidden quarry
they specifically stated they didn’t want items to be pay to win
slim kayak
Lantern is that price for the time and effort the devs spent making it. Plus whatever google and apple takes too
karmic thistle
There is no WIN in this game though
lusty light
There’s nothing to “win” but the devs still don’t want people to feel pressured to spend money or else they’ll be “lesser” than someone
copper bison
if lantern healed that'd kinda be extremely overpowered in places like gw and eden, and it's based off the effort put into making the item.
empty river
yea because having an op item isnt an advantage at all
karmic thistle
How is that op and/or different from the fireplace chair? \🥴
lusty light
Even the instruments, some people ask for an area that requires you to play a song to get in but jenova Chen said no because he doesn’t want people to feel like they have to buy an item or miss out
tiny umbra
I think that’s also why there’s a smaller ts version of the umbrella, as well as an actually bonfire spell if you’re about to compare those
hidden quarry
bonfire forces u to stop lol
empty river
you cant walk with the bonfire constantly recharging you + cooldown
karmic thistle
Bonfire/lantern should be equal
bonfire forces u to stop lol
@hidden quarry same....lantern only heats you up if standing still and at a slower rate
tiny umbra
Well one was a season ultimate and the other is for 20 dollars
empty river
you used to be able to move around a lit bonfire and they fixed because guess what? too op
steady pond
the only gripe i have with the lantern is the fact that we only know it cant burn plants because it was said by ktjn in the discord server, i feel like most people would buy it assuming it could burn plants too and putting information as important as that on just discord seems weird to me
karmic thistle
TGC lurking.....devs: write all that down .jpg lol
lusty light
The item isn’t even out yet why would they advertise its features elsewhere
tiny umbra
I need to candle run, bye bye y’all
steady pond
because... they released a news section detailing how we're gonna have a lantern on twitter...?
karmic thistle
Lantern needs a useful Feature for it's price tag honestly...I'm still buying it though xD
hidden quarry
stuff in beta is subject to change any time before live release
lusty light
News on a item would come out when the items releases
The blog post was just a teaser
rapid trench
new stuff in beta?
hidden quarry
rustic imp
Currently I haven’t found a need to buy the one off cosmetics and that’s ok. If others want them sure they have it. I don’t need to get it
karmic thistle
So far the lantern on beta does absolutely nothing lol...besides looking sort of nice-ish
stiff delta
I’m also buying it that lantern really helps in ship yard up those pipes
steady pond
yes but you cant deny people would be hyped and want to spend money because they assumed something that lights candles would also be able to burn plants. i dont think being clear about how it CANT beforehand, to manage expectations is a bad thing in any way?
rustic imp
The lantern does look cool and has more functionality that other cosmetics already but I’m on the fence. I don’t need it rn
hidden quarry
you can choose not to spend ur money in it. no one forcing u
karmic thistle
What's it's functionality you speak of \🤔
slim kayak
The biggest feature of the lantern is the light.
hidden quarry
lighting candles and lighting the way
stiff delta
I’d like it to recharge you light tho
copper bison
you can hold the lantern while flying unlike candle
lusty light
Things can change in development which is why they never announce full features and details of things before it happens
karmic thistle
So far all it does is have a slight bigger glow than our regular pocket candle
hidden quarry
it has a pretty big glow
slim kayak
Its actually much bigger
stiff delta
Yes really nice glow in the maze at valley
steady pond
precisely, so saying that as of current they cant burn plants or open gates but may in the future, to manage expectations, would be great!
lusty light
I’m not sure if it’s fair to be mad at the devs for their own assumptions though, people are mad that the manta cape isn’t what they wanted it to look like
rapid trench
is the 999 hearts capeless gonna be lowered?
lusty light
Read the pins
rustic imp
Yess I can fly in the maze while seeing where I’m goingggg
karmic thistle
Just use a glow spell and it's even stronger
empty river
not really
stiff delta
No I don’t like the glow spell lol
lusty light
Don’t u like being a shiny boi
karmic thistle
If you don't like the glow effect...you won't like the lantern glow then...?
rustic imp
I don’t like being blinded by the glowing kid
stiff delta
No I do a lot of screen shots and being a glow worm dosent look good lol
lusty light
But
rustic imp
The lantern is so much softer. It’s actually lighting just your surroundings
slim kayak
I mean... glow spell is the free alternative to lantern 
so if you're really upset about it, don't get it. It doesnt hinder gameplay or give you an advantage. It just looks cool
lusty light
steady pond
TGC has made it clear that they want to communicate better with the players so I really dont see any downside to simply saying something that would cause less backlash lols
hidden quarry
the lantern glow is a soft warm glow, i love it. totally different vibe than glow spell
karmic thistle
I still think lantern should recharge you at the cost of standing still and a slower rate
copper bison
I've always been very reluctant to use any spells, in fact I've only used one anti-grav spell in live. In beta I used firework and shrink for testing purposes so I've never actually used glow, no idea what it looks like
lusty light
That’s something for #beta-feedback
stiff delta
U never know they may make it to recharge
karmic thistle
Also...if on wasteland and instant krill target attack lol
lusty light
Glow spell makes you look like when you select a player to open their constellation but a little brighter
stiff delta
karmic thistle
Oh you wanna use lantern on wasteland? Well make sure you know how to dodge krill
hidden quarry
it doesnt make you an easier target for krills though?
karmic thistle
It Should xD
stiff delta
Ohhhhhh yeh I tested that a krill loves that lantern
hidden quarry
ok
slim kayak
Tgc specifically said in the updates that they didnt want it to feel pay to win with a recharge though
karmic thistle
Krill sees lantern from outside their target reticule: are you challenging me?
stiff delta
Anyone know when the new invites will be going out lol
lusty light
No and the devs won’t say to prevent camping
copper bison
if you're holding lantern in wasteland with krills in the map they automatically teleport to you and spot you 
We never know when they come, they just do.
stiff delta
Lol ok
lusty light
Just get the beta invite role and you will be pinged
karmic thistle
No and the devs won’t say to prevent camping
@lusty light then where does the campfire fit into?
stiff delta
I can vouch for that
lusty light
What I said has nothing to do with the campfire or lantern ?
empty river
not that kind of camping lololol
stiff delta
How do I get pinged I’m sort of new to that lol
karmic thistle
Lol
stiff delta
Thanks
rapid trench
in beta there are these boats and I just want to know where I can write something down so I my beta friends can see my message too?
slim kayak
Any place that has water, you can place a boat on. Except for valley ice rink, thats not actually water
rapid trench
how do I place a boat?
lusty light
You have to buy the spells from the spell shop
And then use it when you’re in the water
slim kayak
The boat is where your spells are. Just drag to place one down
rapid trench
there's no new area in beta?
I heard you guys talk about a lantern?
where do I get that?
hidden quarry
in the iap shop
minor robin
Any new areas would be announced in #beta-announcements by the devs. Any seasonal related stuff is unlikely to happen until there is a beta access wipe/invite wave.
Tbh though... asking for clear instructions in here is kinda defeating the purpose of beta testing. Like not all players have access to qnh/social media and might not have friends to ask. I encourage you to go into beta, try to figure it out yourself and leave feedback to TGC if certain things are confusing or unclear 
If you are having difficulty, then it’s likely other people in live would too.
karmic thistle
Lol yes! Go and try to break the game so they can fix it
minor robin
Harness chaotic moth energy
karmic thistle
Chibi glitches all over the maps
pliant swallow
What I said has nothing to do with the campfire or lantern ?
@lusty light i think they meant the fact that bonfire, a technically iap item, can be used for easy recharge/camping perhaps?
lusty light
But that still has nothing to do with what I said eufjsjsj
pliant swallow
white horizon
No and the devs won’t say to prevent camping
Camping in this server
pliant swallow
Ig its a misunderstanding
radiant drum
"Camping" here means someone lurking in this server, in #beta-signup-info channel, waiting for the invites to drop. As in "setting up camp" 😄
If they shared when invites were coming out, so many people would do that. It's more fair to everyone to just have the same blind chance that it could happen whenever
Not to mention this server is huge, too much activity, messages or reactions could make the server crash. We can't let that happen
karmic thistle
gasps in moth
rocky solar
... can't say i didn't camp at all
radiant drum
Just remember to prioritize your health always, invites are not worth losing sleep for. And when you can, have your device next to you so you get the pings whenever it happens. As long as you get the role in #beta-faq you're pretty much good
rocky solar
well, when I meant camping Im talking about having my work phone, my personal, and laptop on me wile waiting for the ping
radiant drum
That's just waiting 😄
rocky solar
lol
radiant drum
It's pretty crazy how we had people that would literally have that channel open at all times, in case someone from staff started typing. For all reading, please don't be like this guys
oak forge
Does the lantern come with a pendant?
rocky solar
oof
hidden quarry
no it doesnt
hidden quarry
i think its pretty cash money
lean ocean
The lantern is bunk, all they will let you do with it is light candles, and when you use the lantern to light things the things you light will not charge your light, this may be a bug but its no Bueno.
oak forge
Pretty expensive I must say, I wish it came with a little more candles for the price
lean ocean
I wish it did what other light does in the game...
tiny umbra
Honestly I just opened discord in the morning and saw it was open and just calmly pressed enter, I got lucky 👁️
sullen relic
just checked what the lantern was capable of doing from the known issues channel, but has anyone tried lighting another player's candle with it? (i.e. not to recharge the player, but to see their appearance)
tiny umbra
I’ve tried, it’s not possible
copper bison
It's a cute item. It makes it much easier to see in dark places, and is good for some screenshot taking. Like, it's a cute item that I really like taking photos of. However it is a bit expensive for my taste. I don't really mind it not having too much functionality as of now, and that it can't recharge light cause that'd be kinda op.
you can't, it's one of the things it can't do.
lean ocean
The lantern is a mistake, or a half worked out cash grab
tiny umbra
It’s technically speaking not your own light, so light can light lanterns and candles but only your own light can light other people’s candles
lean ocean
Op? How theres no end goal in this game? Who are you over powering lul
tiny umbra
Other players who have no irl money to spend for an easier game experience
copper bison
if you could charge light it'd give you an advantage in places with less things to recharge light with. it gives you an advantage over the f2p players or just people who didn't buy lantern.
lean ocean
The game is neet if nothing else, the lantern feels sloppy
tiny umbra
The lantern is still subject to change, it’s beta
radiant drum
I understand not wanting items to feel too OP if they recharge light, but it's an odd statement considering the campfire is already a thing
lean ocean
Facts
tiny umbra
But the campfire is still a spell for In game currency 👁️
sullen relic
one thing worth mentioning with the campfire is that it's not entirely mobile though ("entirely" because you can still replace it as you'd like if you have the prop); you can walk around with the lantern while having an extended reach, which would actually give advantages similar to that of what a tall player has over a chibi one when burning plants or keeping other players lit (if it was able to recharge light)
lean ocean
The point is this light is not worth 20 dollars, there's little function other than ascetic, and i could just use a glow spell, however if this item was fully fleshed out, could melt darkness, light players, and open doors, then that would be a deal, the facts are this thing does 3 things and one of them is take up an instrument slot
radiant drum
If you haven't already, that would be great feedback to tell them in #beta-feedback
I don't think any single item should cost this much
limpid frigate
Well maybe they will change the price when it comes to live?
radiant drum
Of course the event itself is lovely, and the price is correspondent to all the work that was put in it. But I still hope they can find a way to lower the price
lean ocean
If they don't lol I'm not paying for that
sullen relic
you should give them feedback on your thoughts regardless so they have more information to make a decision with
sweet chasm
How do you get the lantern?
copper bison
It's an IAP
sullen relic
open your menu like you're trying to buy more candles to find it 
(assuming you're in beta)
sweet chasm
Thank you!!!
karmic thistle
Costing more than the season pass is kinda of a joke though lol
mighty estuary
Maybe remove the bonus candle? Because 35 candles is worth a pass
lusty light
Ktjn said that even if it didn’t include candles the price would be the same
mighty estuary
:o i didn't read
empty river
@marble pasture new area isnt accesible through normal means, please read the pins in this channel
marble pasture
Oops, sorry... I didn't know that
tiny umbra
Well, days of healing and days of love were also 20 dollars, but i guess one was attached to a charity so 
lyric kite
Didn't the days of love pack also come with a gift pass? Or am I misremembering?
tiny umbra
I wasn’t here for it so I’m wouldn’t know 👁️
mighty estuary
I saw some YouTubers post it while it's in beta
rocky solar
I think so
mighty estuary
The price is $24.99
slow narwhal
You could buy another game or even a few games at that cost.
storm vessel
You can play it for one season
dusky spoke
Two season
storm vessel
lol ok
dusky spoke
lol ok
@storm vessel
?? Two adv passes right 10$ each lol
storm vessel
Sorry I always buy in two friends one
dusky spoke
Aaah i see
storm vessel
Well, the lantern will be permanent and you can use it many seasons lol
Unless weird update happens of course
And it's more useful than a swing
dawn grotto
Ok i missed beta for a while. How do I get these message boat spells again?
lusty light
The spell shop
storm vessel
on the boat
dawn grotto
Ok i try again. Thansk
zinc prawn
They did say that some of the functionalities are not available at the moment, but perhaps there might be more stuff added into the lantern later when its out on live
storm vessel
If the lantern is useful in the new season people will see beta spoilers and buy it anyway
minor robin
I’m pretty much going to buy it regardless of price. It’s way too fun.
- lantern’s light up area is bigger than glow spell, I can skate under the rink now without spending candles on glow spell and get better vision
- if I have the lantern out while flying... if I fly thru some unlit candles it’ll light them. This is a pretty fun precision lighting mini-game challenge for me
- I can keep it out when I do solo or duo runs. Don’t have to constantly tap on the 🔥 icon on the screen or emote menu to pull stuff out
zinc prawn
i mean if thats what you like then go for it,
i personally would love it to be somewhere 10-15$
minor robin
def reasonable to send in feedback regarding it. I’m also going to send in feedback and tell TGC I hope it returns next year, especially if the other features like dark-plant-burning aren’t available in time of its scheduled release
dusk flower
My one complain about the lantern is not be able to burn the darkness with it. And you have to put the lantern down and use your candles to burn the darkness and then open the lantern again. Just imagine when you candles run.
zinc prawn
Hopefully the lantern gets more features when its released on live :0
minor robin
Lol I’m not gonna imagine it, I’m gonna test it tomorrow in beta with a try-hard candle run
there’s only so much we can speculate until we put stuff into actual practical testing. I did find that the lantern was put away quickly when I went up to a constellation gate to pull out candle and open it
it’s not bad on duo runs when the lead pulls out candle while the partner has lantern out
one thing tho that I’ve been mulling over:
if this lantern came with 35 seasonal candles instead of white candles, or split with 18/18 seasonals/whites. Would you feel that the purchase is more attractive?
For some people I think this would be a nice perk, especially if they’re behind. But ultimately the seasonals would be changed to white candles once season of sanctuary is over.
sullen relic
on that same line of thought though, would it perhaps be more appealing if it were to come with seasonal candles for whatever the next season is?
tiny umbra
Personally not really, since 35 seasonal candles isn’t hard to get for me compared to a 35 candle boost during ts weekend that also comes with a nifty lantern, but it would be nice for someone who started late in the season
minor robin
Yeah that’s a very solid point too! I guess it’d really depend on when the item is released, whether sanctuary is ongoing or the next
dawn grotto
Erm any idea is the cooldown for message boats? I wanna try at various crazy places.
minor robin
caline: ingame is there any Ui notification that there is a cooldown?
dawn grotto
Nope has a little sign over the spell but not txt
minor robin
cause like... not all players do have access to social media/message boards. It would be a good thing to send feedback on if you feel the boat’s usage instructions isn’t clear enough
marsh igloo
the white circle around the spell lasts for 5 minutes, and then there is another 25 mins CD I believe
tiny umbra
Ok I checked, 20 dollars goes to 60ish candles in the iap(live) and 10 dollars goes to 35 candles,
dawn grotto
Ok thanks. > cause like... not all players do have access to social media/message boards. It would be a good thing to send feedback on if you feel the boat’s usage instructions isn’t clear enough
@minor robin
sullen relic
actually, for the earlier line of thought about seasonal/white candles with the lantern: what if the 18/18 split was between the current and next seasons? since any leftover sanctuary candles would turn into regular candles anyway fairly soon
minor robin
I think there might be some clash with the way the currency works. I do not believe seasonal candles are currently separated from each other. With enchantment’s pass spam bug, people got tons of seasonal enchantment candles that simply stayed and briefly turned into sanctuary candles.
fallen rivet
When your paper boat reaches 10 likes, do you only get 1 heart like you do in shrines?
hidden quarry
yes
obtuse badger
You're supposed to be able to see the paper boat messaged you just placed, right¿
slim kayak
Yes. The boats are a bit buggy at the moment though
rocky solar
I don't think Live version is going to survive the great incoming war
I dubbed it The Great Naval War Of Sky btw lol
olive tide
I think it's interesting that they brought in boats at all, considering the candle problem in pre-live beta lol
hollow compass
Yes, that was my initial reaction too. There is a cooldown, of course. But with thousands of people having access to the boats, I don't think that's going to matter.
wild shore
...
vapid drum
Candle problem ?
storm vessel
I think it was when you can place message candles any where
this bugged because of the invisible cape. So I was right
copper estuary
I think the additional restraints to the boats might help in combatting the previous issue with littering/planting candles:
- restricted to bodies of water
- long cool-down
- can’t recharge cape (apparently that was the main reason candles were planted in the past, so people could recharge their cape, esp. in ||Eden||).
limpid nova
is it just me or you cant do the gateskip in battlefield anymore?
spark lance
I want a general for normal taking
is it just me or you cant do the gateskip in battlefield anymore?
@limpid nova which battlefield?
limpid nova
the final gate to the temple
spark lance
Oh...
limpid nova
in wasteland of course
gates look the same but beta wont let me j u m p
its like theres gravity
hidden quarry
i think others have said that it seems to have been patchrd
copper estuary
Yes, I heard that the gateskip in battlefield was patched 😢😢
wooden trail
sad, now we're gonna be the cause of so many dead moths
rocky solar
lol when i was a moth I just went yolo... i somehow made it(the gate was active)
abstract yacht
jagged gazelle
Is beta crashing for anyone?
worn field
not exactly, but it'll be around when the season of sanctuary ends. read details in the #beta-faq
ocean sedge
okay thanks
bitter scroll
is beta open?
spark lance
not at the moment, so you’ll need to wait for the next invite wave
fiery trail
hi is the invisible cape still available in beta? is this the one that says "limited availability"?
worn field
yes
fiery trail
yes
@worn field
how can we get the invi cape?
worn field
it's available in orbit for 999 hearts
wild shore
...
wild shore
game stopped working using the blocking feature
keen dagger
is it just me or you cant do the gateskip in battlefield anymore?
@limpid nova oh wait really?? U mean Last gates?
I 'm a lil bit slow
hidden quarry
the gate that blocks wasteland temple. you cant jump through it anymore
limpid nova
nuuuu qmq
ill hav to open the gate with guilt now
rip to all those poor souls that get server merged
hollow compass
Rip to all those unknown players we can’t use radar honk to see, because that feature was removed. 
teal fossil
Bruh
coarse cape
spam honk near battlefield intensifies
icy falcon
hurray! that part of Wasteland now works as intended!
silver bridge
I mean,it is a battlefield XD
ionic sorrel
the gate that blocks wasteland temple. you cant jump through it anymore
@hidden quarry ehh,really
lament nebula
Idk where else to ask this but-
||did anyone figure out if that new item lantern will recharge your energy as well?||
hidden quarry
it doesnt
lament nebula
S u c k s
spark raptor
I personally think it would be better if the lanterns would either protect us from the rain or recharge
Especially for 20 USD
karmic mango
lament nebula
At this point it's just a glorified flashlight lol
spark raptor
Hmm, the pay to win think may be true, but people are paying 20 USD
lament nebula
Exactly. Who would pay 20 USD for a real flashlight?
spark raptor
So, if anything, a reduced price would be better
sand dawn
lament nebula
I rl don't wanna complain, but.. c'mon. If it's just one item and it's 20USD, why not add more features to it? Light up the dark areas yeah, but why not recharge your light as well?
lone eagle
spark raptor
I mean, I'm glad they're adding candles to it, but the lantern does seem a bit simple for the whole package. I hope they do consider everyone's feedback
Ultimately its up to the player to decide to buy it or not
lament nebula
And it's not even pay to win, this game isn't competitive at all
hollow compass
I believe there is information on why the lantern is the way it is right now in #beta-announcements or #beta-known-issues . It’s not for lack of wanting other mechanisms for it.
lament nebula
But what about the founders cape that goes for 30USD which includes 115 candles xD
It has more worth to it than lantern bundle cuz of more added candles, so 30USD price is legit for the cape.
oblique stump
The cape is a bonus
sand dawn
I think of the founders cape as buying the game
hollow compass
The discussion will always be divisive. If you want something to change your best bet is always #beta-feedback
bright portal
im pretty sure the lantern is much harder to implement than the office cape hence the price
"It takes a ton of time and effort for the team to create more complex items like the lantern. The IAP price of those items reflects the cost of all that development time." -ktjn
lament nebula
Fair
sand dawn
Personally I’d like to see the candles dropped from the pack and just have the 10$ lantern.
lament nebula
Same
kindred fossil
removing the candles wouldn't change the price point.
minor robin
The alternative way to make the $20 feel more worth it, might be to adjust the number of candles it comes with. that is a legit good point about the number of candles gifted with founders cape.
digital dove
Portrait mode is in beta only right??🙏
fossil grove
Portrait mode is in beta only right??🙏
@digital dove yeah
minor robin
Yes and this also technically means it is a beta spoiler and shouldn't discussed in channels outside of beta.
arctic lake
Someone suggested to add an gift adventure pass instead of the candles like it was the case when the swing was sold.
This would definitely make the package more valuable as a gift pass for me would justify it a lot better than candles I can collect in one day almost
primal pagoda
Then the lantern pack might cost $25. Even more expensive 😆😆
primal pagoda
Valentine’s swing was $25
arctic lake
Yeah but that doesn't change the prize of a pass, just means the swing was charged more expensively 😁
kindred fossil
the candles got nothing to do with the lantern's initial price, it's just a freebie
arctic lake
Yes it is. But it is a freebie that's added to make the prize more acceptable
lusty light
The valentines swing was 20
kindred fossil
although i thought people wanted the pass to be removed from the swing set, since it was released really late into the season
arctic lake
With being able to safe passes now that wouldn't be an issue I guess
You could gift it to someone in the next upcoming season
arctic lake
Fact is: It wouldn't pay off to sell it for 10 as the development sure needs more effort than this. There's also a chance more people would buy it though and it would equal out even if it was only 10 but that I can't tell.
So they add a freebie to make it more justifyable. Does it matter which freebie?
primal pagoda
Oh really? My bad. I read somewhere someone said it was $25
kindred fossil
the price could've been from a different region
random gull
Canadian money also uses $ but their prices are typically higher than USD (because Canadian dollars and US dollars are different currencies. 1 CAD is equal to 0.77 USD)
bleak marsh
May I know when the lantern pack will introduced to official game?
lusty light
The only info that tgc has said on that is September
gilded parrotBOT
Please @marsh atlas, don't share/talk about hacked or illegitimately obtained content on the server. The new season hasn’t even begun testing in beta.
marsh atlas
vapid drum
I remember from the introduction of the first iap items , there weren’t any candles included. I’ve left a lot of feedback back then to include candles with the items , to make it more appealing for purchase. I’ve bought the pumpkin and bat cape nether the less though.
warm badger
Is beta feedback down? There’s no send button after I type my message
kindred fossil
nope, try restarting discord
warm badger
Okay, thank you
kindred fossil
i see it worked 
warm badger
It did, thank you
empty river
did they take away the cooldown off of resize potions a couple updates ago or did i find a new bug?
warm badger
Hm, I’ll go try it out and let you know
Doesn’t seem to be a cool down for me either, it could be the same bug, or maybe they decided not to have a cool down since so many people were using so many resize potions to get the exact height they wanted
empty river
thanks you two ^^
its been so long since i used a resize potion and i was afraid i missed something in one of the patch notes :v
warm badger
No problem!
waxen python
I've probably asked dozens of times, but
Have they decided when/if the portrait mode arrives to the android beta?
tiny umbra
Unlimited resizes
I don’t think it’s that they don’t want to bring portrait mode to android or if it’s a choice it’s that android as a platform has different rules and functionality than iOS so it’s harder to do on android, but it’s being developed
primal pagoda
@waxen python here’s what the dev said #beta-discussion message
waxen python
OK, thanks!
hollow compass
It's also not quite stable in iOS. I have personally had a lot of lagging when taking screenshots in portrait mode. The control area on the screen is very centred and small when using 1-handed.
sick stirrup
I'm not on beta, but was hoping someone could answer here...does the lantern light up dark areas better than the fireworks staff?
tiny umbra
I think the fireworks staff is brighter, but the lantern works just as well continuously instead in loud blasts, i think someone put a comparison in screenshots if you can find it
hidden quarry
also, the lantern gives 1 colour of light only
simple bobcat
@sick stirrup for comparision I found these:
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/618891214527266846/749788160828899360 vs https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/575818672476782634/734406496930103376
empty river
sorry, the ones i did weren't in valley temple, but in one of the small buildings in wasteland's social area
simple bobcat
Oh oops
thorn cedar
I do like add an advanture pass in lantern pack ，instead of candles,while one pass is＄9.9,it's not more expensive
royal venture
!ts
gilded parrotBOT
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on September 3 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
undone chasm
minor robin
It currently comes with 35 white candles. The price and candle count aren’t set in stone, as this is beta.
primal pagoda
With the firework staff you get a glimpse of the way. I prefer lantern if I really wanna explore dark places
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/618891214527266846/748850551609098311
tiny umbra
Wait, when did they say the price wouldnt change?
kindred fossil
am i the only one that doesn't care about the other capabilities of the lantern? i just want to explore darker areas clearly
empty river
heh
kindred fossil
i (hopefully) might buy it in live dc the price, i want to see it 👁️👁️
tiny umbra
im gonna take screenshots of all the dark areas with the lantern before access gets wiped thats for sure, i hate not being able to see every crevice, bless the devs for the lantern
radiant drum
the quote is:
removing the candles wouldn't change the price point. that being said, we're taking feedback on the price over here: #beta-feedback
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/748995928513314967
Anything in beta can change really, even if it doesn't mean it will
primal pagoda
yes you’re the only onee 😔
I just really hope the lantern can burn darkness as well. It will be really worth every penny then
kindred fossil
lmao ok i'll stay in the dark
empty river
🥁
amber umbra
I wish the lantern recharged your/others‘ light. I know the devs said it was not being done to avoid giving an advantage to people paying for the lantern, but the bonfire was technically an IAP (as part of the Adventure Pass), so it’s not unheard of. i think until they figure out how/when/if they want to bring back ultimates, it‘s kind of unfair for players who were able to play during Belonging to have this „advantage“ while people who couldn‘t play during that time have no access to an item with this power. (Yes I know there are spells, but not everyone can afford to keep crafting bonfire spells.)
Just my humble opinion, and yes I left it in #beta-feedback already.
kindred fossil
idk if it's possible but to avoid making it way too OP (its more portable than the bonfire, if that makes sense) it recharges the player slowly while moving, but chargers decently if the player stays still or something
i can't type today 😔
amber umbra
Oooo, I like that idea!!
empty river
i think as long as it doesnt allow you to fly infinitely it should be fine
kindred fossil
yea
amber umbra
@kindred fossil do you mind if I quote your idea in my next feedback post? :3
kindred fossil
yeah please do i can't type
amber umbra
Lol that‘s me every single day on Sky, like „bruh hope you can understand my gibberish“
And thank you 
tiny umbra
Were the bugged seasonal spirits fixed? I noticed I haven't encountered any since the spirits became relivable
analog citrus
Has there been any discussion that the spirit re-living is just for beta, so we cant test them, or something that they want to bring back to live as well?
tiny umbra
As far as I know its something they wanna bring into live, so we're testing it in beta right now, not sure when itll be in live thou. Some things stay in beta for a long time
tough pebble
Yeah like the shepered system, only complains about the new UI is it's too bright
hollow compass
I for one am glad the ability to relive spirits is back again. They listened to our feedback and added the precursory question, so that people don't get too confused.
slate trout
🤗🤗🤗
tender oasis
I'm also glad that spirits are back however its pretty hard to find the right spirit to do daily quest if you don't know which ones are the regular 'quest' spirits.
hollow compass
@tender oasis But you can see that from the symbol on the quest...?
kindred fossil
considering the amount of questions asked about the relive quest in #seasons-events-chat, maybe not 👀
hollow compass
And really, they usually rotate between the same two, so just look for the first one and then go to the second if it wasn't the first.
dark, I think people just don't look at the symbol, tbh
iron geyser
and don't they shine blue anyways?
kindred fossil
not with this update
minor robin
oh dang that’s def bug report material. that aura is so important 
kindred fossil
it's cool
hollow compass
No, they don't do that now. But it shouldn't be an issue, if you just look at the symbol by the quest.
minor robin
I’m waiting for battery to hit 100% then it’s serious beta CR time
analog citrus
if you an see it on your tiny phone screen
tender oasis
I Never used the symbol i know which ones are the quest spirits but thinking like a newbie i think its hard without the aura.
minor robin
Btw mild question for you guys: do you feel like the spirit icon is too small? I think also.. it might be nice if the description also included their name, now that it’s included in constellations
hollow compass
The symbol is there to help you and give you a hint. That's why it only says "relive this spirit", not "relive Cry spirit" (for example).
minor robin
I always wonder why seasonal chat and qnh has so many “what’s today’s relive spirit?” questions.
hollow compass
Might be too long to include the whole name. I don't have any issues seeing the symbol on my iPhone X, but perhaps on smaller screens it is difficult?
minor robin
and that’s a good point too blep, should the quest be in our faces or continue to be a hint
kindred fossil
either can't recognize the icon, forgot the location or don't have time
hollow compass
Tbh, I think it's mostly that they don't look at the symbol at all.
kindred fossil
i feel like saying lazy too but maybe that's too harsh lol
hollow compass
Nah, not lazy. Just unobservant.
kindred fossil
lazy eyes
hollow compass
I remember not paying attention to the symbol way back in my early days. Or not realising it was there. But considering we have had the same relive spirits for 4 seasons now (or more?), it shouldn't be that hard to work out.
tender oasis
Sky visuals are overwhelming in a way. So many details, its easy to miss small things like that. Even now i keep discovering new things after months of playing on a daily basis.
minor robin
I think that’s also a plus keeps things fresh even for longtime players
hollow bolt
I don’t look at the symbol at all. I just go to the places where I know the quests usually are.
And me too Pakka! My sister normally points things out to me cos I just glaze over the details
kindred fossil
dad stance will never get a break
minor robin
If we learned everything there was to sky within a week, it’d get pretty boring
hollow compass
Nah, one playthrough and you've finished the game.
kindred fossil
but that tiny tunnel hidden to the side says otherwise
tiny umbra
One play through took me a whole month then XD
Wait that’s not true, it was more like 3 weeks
hollow compass
But question: if it says "relive this spirit", why do people not try to look for an answer by themselves before asking in QnH? Do they assume the game doesn't tell them which spirit it is?
tender oasis
Agree i like there is so much in it. My point is for a newbie it's hard to see all the small details like spirit icons etc.
hollow bolt
It’s quicker to ask than to research sometimes
hollow compass
In that case, the quest designs are not good.
hollow bolt
That’s a valid point
minor robin
... oh an interesting idea... what if the questgiver did the wave then did the emote of the relive spirit ?
tiny umbra
Some people go straight to just asking, others find it themselves, it depends on the person, I mean everyone could find their answers in game or on their own but we still have question channels
tender oasis
Ohh I like that Wyott
hollow bolt
Maybe if the spirits had the emote symbols associated with them instead of the flame to click on?
minor robin
Therefore we don’t have to just rely on icons/names in quest. It’s a visual in yo face clue to the spirit
hollow compass
If a quest says "relive this spirit" you should ideally try to find out which one it is and not just accept that it isn't immediately obvious. Right?
tiny umbra
There was an idea a while back where the non seasonal questgiver was replaced by whatever spirit you needed to relive for the day, that would be nice too 👁️
hollow compass
Lysken, what flame? But the quest icon is the emote icon.
tiny umbra
Imagine the questgiver crying at you when you click the “!”
Awkward
minor robin
LOL MAKE IT LVL 4 CRY
hollow compass
I think that would be way too hard to programme!
hollow bolt
When you relive a spirit, the icon is a flame that you have to light up.
What if, instead of a flame, the icon is the emote associated with that spirit that we see on our constellations
minor robin
bunch of skykids watch a grown up questgiver cry and throw a tantrum on the floor 😂
empty river
thats reserved for when you need to use the emote tho, that would confuse players even more
tiny umbra
Wasteland, the questgiver does nothing, just widens his stance slightly more, the skykids are confusion
hollow compass
I honestly think the easiest way would be to make the quest icons slightly bigger or more obvious.
minor robin
But not as entertaining as questgiver doing lvl 4 cry... omg I need to doodle this sometime 
empty river
why not just make them do it
tiny umbra
Valley, the questgiver just puts their head in their hands “you know this one, just go “
hollow bolt
It’s pretty crowded in my phone though. The text reaches all the way across my screen.
If they made the icons for the quests bigger, they’d have to compromise and make the text smaller 🤔
minor robin
I’m not a glitching expert. I dono how to make spirits into my puppets
rocky solar
it's pretty easy lol
tiny umbra
There is a specific thing you can do making traveling spirits do any emote so long as it’s during a season
tiny umbra
It’s kinda hard to explain but it’s there
You can also click on things in the spirit trees to make them show off their hair or cape and etc.
hollow bolt
Ooh! I like that glitch
kindred fossil
it was more fun with the QG though :/ it brought you closer to them
empty river
If you consider making the QG faint brought you closer to them sure
kindred fossil
yea we're just playing house
hollow bolt
Closer to the ground I think
empty river
pffffffft
rocky solar
ehem... Table
empty river
stop bullying the QG
tiny umbra
Table is harrrrddd thou and I keep messing up
kindred fossil
but grandma do funky dance
empty river
i still remember when grandma randomly appeared in beta for a day whats up with that
kindred fossil
she wanted to see us kids but TGC took us
hidden quarry
shes trynna send a message
rocky solar
loll
orchid nexus
@oak forge please do not copy/paste other people's posts, ideas, suggestions into both beta and live feedback channels. That's both spam, and unnecessary since they already stated they shared the idea in the beta feedback channel.
oak forge
I just thought some ideas get skipped over to quickly if only seen once, whooops💀
Like in my opinion the lantern wouldn’t never be here if only one person asked for it, however I do apologize for the ‘spam’
orchid nexus
Ideas don't need to be repeated in the feedback channels. filling the feedback channel with repeats might make it hard for TGC staff to get through it all, but otherwise they do read it all and give it all equal weighting. Cross-posting to many channels regardless of content is spam
tender oasis
I just finished relieving the spirit and went outside of the chamber to light the lanterns when suddenly i was in the room again cause somebody lighted the statue. So it seems u got teleported back to the statue just like u do with the travelling spirits . 
strange rose
Someone managed to get the 6 player puzzle?
kindred fossil
it's not a puzzle, it's only an instrument
ornate roost
Eh?
spark lance
Hi
kindred fossil
hi
spark lance
Would like to know if candles reset by your personal 24hr clock
Or the servers 24 hr clock
Kinda new to this game
rocky solar
server
kindred fossil
reset is at 00:00 PDT to be exact
tranquil mortar
servers, I think.
spark lance
So 0000 pdt?
tranquil mortar
yes.
spark lance
Alright tqvm :)
tranquil mortar
I'm gonna disappear from here, I'm not in beta 😳
spark lance
I kinda want the beta cape tho ngl
jaunty cradle
pretty sure you can't get it anymore
kindred fossil
and feel free to ask more not-beta-related questions in #questions-and-help
spark lance
Alright tqvm
I kinda want the beta cape tho ngl
@spark lance but you can get office cape for free (just in beta)
So i just have to sign up for beta frm google ply?
Oh jist in beta ic
hearty pelican
i thought they gonna add more ppl in every season?
slim kayak
tgc cape is in the live version. someone has to take you to office so you can buy it from the store
they do plan on adding more people. when an access wipe happens, the devs will notify us.
lyric kite
There will be an access wipe soon, they haven't started testing for the new season yet. They'll announce in #beta-announcements or #beta-signup-info probably whenever they are going to do the access wipe and start a new round of invites, but we don't know when that will be yet
lyric knoll
is there anyway to still get the beta version app
lusty light
The beta cape is not and will not be available again
kindred fossil
no
hearty pelican
i think so cause theres a new season soon
lusty light
You can buy the founders cape, but the underside is black instead of white
lyric kite
You can't download the beta app right now unless you got invited during the previous invite wave and still have access
slim kayak
sorry, i was talking about the founder's cape
lyric knoll
how do i participate in the invite wave?
lyric knoll
ty
kindred fossil
i mean beta faq specifically states that an access wipe will happen every season from now on
hearty pelican
isn't like there is a new wipe or something like that
slim kayak
there isnt a wipe happening right now. we will know when the devs tell us
kindred fossil
the prophecy is the invite waves
lyric knoll
ooo maybe ill get in
hearty pelican
is coming soon
empty river
the true prophecy is this channel getting a 24 hour cooldown for the next invite wave
kindred fossil
edgy canopy
We should probably start getting prepared to talk with reactions-
slim kayak
15 min felt like an eternity. I don't want to imagine a whole day
kindred fossil
naw i don't think it'll be that bad this time around, i've got faith
since access wipes will happen more often it'll chill overtime
:optimistic: 🌈
spark lance
The maximum cooldown time for discord is 6 hours I guess
slim kayak
i can just imagine all the new testers asking the same questions, almost all of which could be answered in beta faq
empty river
technically the maximum is making the channel read-only 🧠
kindred fossil
the maximum is to delete beta
kindred fossil
anyhow, there's always that one person that doesn't read, what else to do except to politely redirect them /shrug
spark lance
Btw ktjn said she'll move #beta-discussion-android to archives channels, but I think she always forgets it or something
latent palm
hopefully they make it soon so new players can skip cutscenes :D
because my friend is getting like real annoyed lmao
analog citrus
👆 said everybody since release. Don't get your friends hope up
olive tide
There’s a reason some cutscenes can’t be skipped. They’re used to load the next area of the game, otherwise there isn’t enough time and you’ll get all glitchy. The cutscene that CAN be skipped the devs have already made skippable
latent palm
nah
the painting one, that's already loaded in, the isle one you cant skip but can when playing it the second time
oak berry
You can walk away from the painting one
latent palm
the very first painting
when your a moth
@oak berry #beta-screenshots-videos message
olive tide
Well when you’re playing the first time you can’t skip ANY cutscenes
gusty dust
yeh
hollow cloak
I'm trying to upload a video to my beta bug report, but I can't seem to send videos through discord. Is that a nitro only feature or something?
rocky solar
your video file may be too big
empty river
if the video is more than 8mb you can uploaded it to #beta-screenshots-videos and link it in your bug report instead
hollow cloak
It's 3.1 MB
olive tide
You can also attach it directly through photos
hollow cloak
Through photos?
empty river
i see, are you sending it from your photo gallery to discord, or directly looking for the video in the dms? (im not sure if im making sense im sorry 😅)
hollow cloak
I'm on the sky bot DM, trying to attach a file there
Except it timed out, but you know. Hypothetically
empty river
it should work if you go into the photos app and share it from there
hollow cloak
Oop, I think I figured it out. Thanks for the help
hidden quarry
my message boat that i placed oob yesterday... its inbounds now 
gjsdk
olive tide
Oh ya that happened to me too. It dissapeared completely today...
vapid drum
Whahahaha, did that boat seriously got shot into the air by that geyser 🤣
radiant fox
It is so annoying
gilded parrotBOT
Please @radiant fox, don't share/talk about hacked or illegitimately obtained content on the server. The new season hasn’t even begun testing in beta.
radiant fox
😭😭???
vapid drum
Skybot needs sleep
rustic imp
New season stuff isn’t in beta.... but some people try to get spoilers by getting it through means that are unfair to everyone and are against rules. We don’t want to encourage that here
radiant fox
Ya I was jus using it as an example an I wouldn’t even know becaus I don’t play the beta version of the game
rustic imp
There’s a lot of information about so we’d like to keep the references to a minimum.
warm badger
I hope I can snag a beta spot again to test this new season, the teaser looks so cool and the season logo thing looks like the star thing we see everywhere and i’m hoping it’ll be full of canonical lore
olive tide
Yes @vapid drum absolutely fantastic boat launching
gusty belfry
Does the paperboats give you a heart if you reach 10 likes?
quaint onyx
It doesn't exist yet
empty river
@gray forum please read the pins, testing for the season hasnt even started yet, all we know about it is the logo
gray forum
Ok will do. Just curious when i saw it several times on Instagram.
empty river
unfortunately there's people that do some pretty bad stuff thats harmful for both TGC and the community 😔
gray forum
Ah I see...that’s not cool. Especially after how hard TGC works to create an amazing game.
fresh crater
Hello 👋 does anyone know if we can leave message boats ⛵️ in valley
tiny umbra
Not at the ice rink but if you can think of a legitamite body of water in valley then yes
fresh crater
In the cracks in ice where there is 💧 water
tiny umbra
Nope
rocky solar
I think only on a body of water that your character can float on, is needed to place the boat
So I think that's why valley's water is probably not working
tiny umbra
Not just float thou, just, actual water, you can’t stand in shallow non floatable water and still place a boat, the ice rink water is an illusion
You can put a boat underneath the stadium oob thou 👁️
spark lance
Hey guys, can you help me out a bit here? I’m a bit torn on whether to save up some more cash and get the lantern or stick with just a group season pass. Should I get the lantern? (Videos of you and it in Your favorite dark OOB are very welcome ) DM me your advice! Sincerely,
quaint onyx
Why not both?
spark lance
Eh, just a little torn is all
hybrid wedge
@spark lance that doesn't really seem to be a beta topic, you'll probably get more discussion about it in #general-sky-discussion or perhaps even #questions-and-help. You'll be able to find videos in the #beta-screenshots-videos if they're postsed
(We do try to keep this channel from becoming gen-chat-2)
feral minnow
what kinda stuff do you guys have in the beta version 
hybrid wedge
@feral minnow the full list is in #beta-announcements
feral minnow
thx man 🏃🏃
quaint onyx
Because he's/she's not allowed to yet 
spark lance
@spark lance that doesn't really seem to be a beta topic, you'll probably get more discussion about it in #general-sky-discussion or perhaps even #questions-and-help. You'll be able to find videos in the #beta-screenshots-videos if they're postsed
@hybrid wedge sorry, it’s just I’m trying to get advice from people who know what they’re talking about
rocky solar
Beta has little(lot) different UI compared to live rn...
hybrid wedge
@spark lance in the meantime, you can go ahead and save up your money, and make the decision closer to or shortly after both items make it to live
quaint onyx
I forget, did they stop swing-stacking before or after it went live?
Because, as an example, wait till things go live before making a decision
I had finally found my artform 
Geo-Abstract furniture arrangement
hidden quarry
no
gentle hornet
I-
analog sable
did the new season stared in beta?
@spark lance start 20days later, in left corner , on the bottom before playing
tiny umbra
Of course it could be lying as well
stoic epoch
Is there any exact date of summer light event And lantern sale?
worn field
not yet
stoic epoch
Cant wait for the lantern, was excited to throw away my glow spell
finite meteor
glow spell was more blinding than white cape a few months ago tbh
stoic epoch
Manta suit + manta cape + glow spell + bald
mighty estuary
Manca cape is not white. There is a blue essence tho. The white cape ia atill the best
ionic sorrel
@stoic epoch ima try it
small pebble
The Manta Cape is more pure white, which usually looks a little more blue. But also the capes tend to have a different tint to them on the spirits
Which is interesting ^^
lusty light
@sterile wigeon do not talk about things that were obtained illegitimately
sterile wigeon
oh okie sorry
stoic epoch
Manta cape is white but just a bit different , but manta cape is white inside and outside, white cape only outside
slim kayak
Found a suspicious person in beta today
stoic epoch
I cant wait for the lantern in official ver, please faster the release
slim kayak
Gotta stomp out those bugs first!
stoic epoch
The bug isnt really annoying except the crash one but it already fixed
bright portal
nah they should take their time to refine the update as much as they can , if they rush the summer lights event there's gonna be a ton of peeps complaining about bugs and you know the drill
quality over quantity imo
stoic epoch
I know about the bug thing but i never getting excited for something except this lantern only
I just aim the lantern
i just want they sell the lantern early tbh, not excited about the boat but the lantern is catch me eyes even alot people said it isnt worth
lyric kite
It's cool that you're excited for the upcoming item! However, rushing something out just so people can get it early isn't really in the best interest of the game, please try to be patient while they work on fixing up the event so everyone will be able to enjoy it properly
stoic epoch
It's cool that you're excited for the upcoming item! However, rushing something out just so people can get it early isn't really in the best interest of the game, please try to be patient while they work on fixing up the event so everyone will be able to enjoy it properly
@lyric kite i get the point, i just telling my feeling right now xD but i cant rush them for my favor, that lantern is my kind of thing beside of firework staff, i very hate dark even i know the way to walk but still i want to eliminate the dark, its annoy me because no thing that work like flash light except your candles and the mini range glowing spell
buoyant loom
sooo..... i cant talk in general so imma talk here
how much is the "no cape" cape beta cost? i think its 999AC+99💗
hidden quarry
its been relocated to the vault elder hair constellation
empty river
and its 999 hearts+whatever vault completion costs
stoic epoch
Over priced 
hidden quarry
itsa joke item
stoic epoch
imagine capeless with Tuxedo like Clothes
wild shore
...
quaint onyx
We talkin T-shirt here
autumn geode
quite sad we can't backdoor enter praire temple its kinda convenient at times
stoic epoch
Ugh, idk why i cant wait for the lantern,this feeling cringe me, i mostly calm and chill because nothing can catch my eyes like this 
autumn geode
is it just me or when I open the battlefield gate the tree isn't burned or its just I'm used to live merge?
olive cape
guys does anyone have problems in using side panel options like Home, Potions, Spells and planting boat ?
i am unable to use it after update.
autumn geode
I lost text prompt but I can select X or ☑️
olive cape
ohh.. i can't seem to get the select options too, when i choose to close the panel it blinks the options for a micro second, obviously its impossible to select the option in that much of time🥺
ionic sorrel
how long is the cooldown for the paperboat?
slim kayak
The cooldown is somewhere between 25 and 30 min flippedtable
ionic sorrel
thats prettt long
slim kayak
Its long to prevent spamming them everywhere. But feel free to leave feedback about it in #beta-feedback
I also think its kinda long, but my main concern is that I can barely use them atm. They're pretty glichy
I cant imagine what live is gonna look like if there are already so many boats around in beta
thick plume
dunno why but the boats kinda remind me of the candle poops way back in Light awaits
empty river
Still confused about where that boat I placed in the geyser went to lolol
slim kayak
I wasn't in beta back then, but looking at some of the videos, they are pretty similar
thick plume
Still confused about where that boat I placed in the geyser went to lolol
@empty river i think it got glitched into the geyser
empty river
I like that they brought that feature back to an extend :D
thick plume
someone actually made an art concept about it in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations
But they made more variations and the paper boats acted like private messages sent to a certain person
autumn geode
private msg is the way to go my opinion at the least
wild shore
how much is the "no cape" cape beta cost? i think its 999AC+99💗
moshi_______#1609
Used to be 2AC at whale voice spirit tree w/o the invisible cape changed to 99AC with 999 hearts with invisible cape. Now changed to Vault elder at ||orbit||
invisible cape you can fly with it.
Pinned message #beta-screenshots-videos
i'm invisible (i was refering my past pfp try to hide)
exotic gorge
Just noticed the Star ⭐️ pin scan tech was added to beta
thorn cedar
One improvement suggestion: The lanterns cannot be held high, making some of the higher candlesticks unlit while ur chibi
autumn geode
one thing I noticed when yur chibi is not bright as being held by taller height. Talking about the lantern
topaz nebula
autumn geode
I was wrong... still the same brightness I just went to a darker area 🤣
wild shore
food is best
cloud flint
i am new to beta
I thought we can use all cosmetics free
but they remain locked like
hidden quarry
no, only iaps are free. they still want you to play the game 🕺💃✨
cloud flint
what is iap
hidden quarry
in app purchases. like the founders pack and adventure passes
cloud flint
ohh so i can use latern free? where to unlocl it
drifting drum
Yes
hidden quarry
the iap shop
cloud flint
I just wanted to use rhythm pants 😂
hidden quarry
beta is for the purpose of testing. progress may be wiped at any time if they feel like it
besides, ts come at the same time as live so might as well concentrate on that account
hollow compass
Beta is essentially the same as Live these days, except when there is a new season being tested. You don’t automatically get access to all past seasonal items just because you’re in beta. And you shouldn’t focus on cosmetics too much. Main focus is on testing gameplay mechanisms and performance.
@cloud flint how did you get into beta?
cloud flint
I am on andriod
hollow compass
That wasn’t my question.
vapid drum
Thought so 😑, that would explain the increase in players that are new lately
hollow compass
Using an apk is against the ToS. It is also not helping TGC at all.
kindred fossil
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bright portal
olive tide
Yikes :/
cobalt hare
hollow bolt
Hello beta friends, how fares the Bug Hunt today?
worldly star
Yeah there’s a huge increase in new players recently because of a certain website in China, it was taken down once but now it’s back and recently the popularity of Sky in mainland China spiked so there’s a huge increase of new players in Beta, chances are they won’t speak English very well. It’s really saddening that all these people who claim to “love Sky and TGC” download beta from these places, I’ve tried to talk to some of them (Yay I speak Chinese ) but they just say “I want to experience the new season first, what’s so wrong about that? Why do you care anyways?” It’s just sad
wanton badge
Is it weird that the confirmation box doesn't show up when I tap on a spell/potion/paper boat?
worn field
sounds a little odd to me - if you can, submit a bug report. even if it's not a bug, better to be safe and let TGC know. at the very least, if it's not a bug, it still tells TGC that we think it's a bug, which is valuable feedback!
hollow compass
It is extra unfortunate that these apk players join beta, since the server for that has limited capacity. If there is a large influx of new players it can cause issues for those of us who are actually here to help test the game.
dusky jolt
*maybe that’s cause why the google link of beta android is dead-
hollow compass
No, that's not why.
dusky jolt
Lol xD
Just my guess :3
feral mica
Why can I only talk on this channel ?
hollow compass
Do you mean the other channels are not visible or available? You might need to check the #roles channel.
feral mica
I can see them but I can’t write anything :/
hollow compass
Which ones in particular? Some channels are read only.
feral mica
All of them except this one... and I also can’t put all the roles too
worn field
the roles channel is sometimes broken due to a discord bug... i don't think that should affect your ability to chat though
hollow compass
Discord sometimes bugs out with reacts not being available if there are too many clicks on them. Maybe check your settings to see if something has been accidentally set to off?
feral mica
Oh okay, this is weird but maybe I am not the only one
hollow storm
hmmm
hollow compass
Try restarting or using Discord on another device.
dense whale
/guys i wanna know how beta is like
hollow bolt
What would you like to know?
worn field
beta is a testing environment. it’s a version of sky where tgc tests out new things, so it’s often quite buggy.
it’s also quite lonely. there really aren’t many active beta testers, especially compared to the live game
empty river
bugs and crashes galore 
hollow bolt
The aim is to test things to make sure they work, they work in harmony with other items, and LOTS of bug reports
hybrid dust
I got the "congrats you're now a beta tester" thing from Google play when beta sign ups were last open months ago but it still says the beta program is full so I haven't been able to download the beta app heh
dense whale
The aim is to test things to make sure they work, they work in harmony with other items, and LOTS of bug reports
/how often are bugss is the game frustrating to play?????
hollow bolt
The most frustrating bugs, in my opinion, are the crashes. Some crashes happen when you're literally doing nothing, whilst some crashes happen when you interact with in game functions.
Bug reports are also tedious because you have to do them often (:
dense whale
/are there any upsides then?
hollow bolt
The downsides are also the upsides! ^_^
If you enjoy bug reporting and finding bugs, and also having a good laugh at some funny bugs with friends, its really fun!
worn field
the biggest upside might be you get to help out TGC and see the bugs we tested in beta get fixed, it can feel really fulfilling
the bugs can be really funny too, yeah 
hollow bolt
I love competing with others to find bugs first >_>
dense whale
/funniest bug ever then?
empty river
oof thats a hard one, guess it depends on the person?
quaint onyx
Santa?
kindred fossil
infinite pass pre-order
empty river
i like infinity pass glitch for all the memes that were made
dense whale
Santa?
@quaint onyx /explain santa?
kindred fossil
a bugged player that's big
dense whale
i like infinity pass glitch for all the memes that were made
@empty river /explain infinity pass also
empty river
you could pre-order passes over and over again
worn field
some people collected hundreds of gift passes when that bug happened hsdkfgsjd
empty river
ended up with some players having a million seasonal candles
kindred fossil
here's santa: #beta-screenshots-videos message
empty river
santa come back
quaint onyx
The explosion of swing art was pretty good
kindred fossil
😔
empty river
you think they got in the last beta wave? 😔
dense whale
/santa looks pretty cute! i want it!
quaint onyx
Lady go home
Was pretty good
kindred fossil
before tiny spell was revealed the shrink spell was glitched
and you could make the tiny effect last for the whole session
hollow bolt
I liked the glitch where you could make the QG do the crab emote and lay on their back
hollow compass
I liked that one.
kindred fossil
quaint onyx
A short compendium of bugs
#beta-screenshots-videos message
kindred fossil
the isle black hole bug 
hollow bolt
That's cool!
quaint onyx
Oh, the one true santa
#beta-screenshots-videos message
dense whale
vapid drum
Anyone playing on iPad 2017 ?? I use that one for work and played a little on it. I kept getting crashes in sanctuary with the latest beta build. I don’t know if it is just my device , cause the whole game was laggy too. No network problems for sure , cause I could play fine on my newer devices.
bleak arrow
"Fixed issue where some temples could be accessed from exit side" - so wasteland/forest were accesible from exit side or what? 🤔
oblique stump
Isle, Prairie and Valley were all accessible from the exit
fresh crater
@vapid drum Make sure you update your iPad to 13.7, check iPadstorage, not iCloud but iPad- settings-general-iPad storage- hard restart on iPad, see if that helps
minor robin
players were never meant to access the temples from the back side, but there were a couple exceptions that we finally got around to fixing. we were getting reports of players getting stuck when trying to go backwards, so now it's fixed.
-Ktjn
minor robin
You can send feedback on it. Ngl I personally use the forest to prairie temple shortcut every so often when I’ve forgotten a candle cake. But this is on me and my gameplay: I could have been more mindful and looked for cakes in their usual spot instead of going though the route on habit, I could have looked up candle locations before I finished the map.
I’d rather take initiative and play more mindfully, than have a temple u-turn that has caused players to get stuck, especially new moths who might get a bad impression of Sky
random gull
Odd question regarding that. I usually do my forest candle run in live by opening the gate to get the last couple of wax bits and returning to the temple room because the plants are usually burned by the time I collect from the last area. Is this no longer viable with the fixes?
empty river
i can go check in just a second 
i do that too so im curious
minor robin
It’s still ok to U-turn like that. I did it last night
That temple door is completely open. I guess the change might be when someone attempts to fly from valley social space into forest temple area (I heard there were some significant wind currents tho, it’s tricky and not worth the effort)
random gull
ah yeah I've only ever done that once before. I just never really had a reason to outside of curiosity
hollow compass
Mostly it’s not being able to return to Prairie temple from Forest social hub.
empty river
can confirm U-turn into forest temple and going from wasteland social area-valley temple still works (dunno why you would try the latter tho :v)
minor robin
Only thing I can think of is vets who would rather skip the races and wish to access the stadium oob quickly. But it's so niche
bleak arrow
Me and my friends use wasteland -> valley to go oob arena.
small steppe
Does anyone have a picture of the number of candles exchanged during the new season
bleak arrow
I also like to go elevators -> candles outside temple -> straight to bird nest and grab temple candles later by entering there from forest social space 🥺
valid terrace
Aaaaaaaa in September
we can r e l i v e w h e n e v e r w e w a n t
I’m still so excited
small steppe
Does anyone have a picture of the number of candles exchanged during the holy Island season
kindred fossil
you'll find such charts in #seasons-events-chat
bleak arrow
Also why they patched wasteland Battlefield gate? 🥺
kindred fossil
because glitching through it is not the intended gameplay
hollow bolt
bleak arrow
Glitching is part of the game.
fresh crater
😂🤫🤣
eager sentinel
The lantern should be able to burn plants, open barriers, and recharge your light.
bleak arrow
Why they don't patch oob arena, golden and rainbow bridge etc? It's not the intended gameplay either.
fresh crater
I would just be grateful they haven’t
bleak arrow
Is it just because people reported being stuck there while glitching? XD
fresh crater
They allow us the OOb’s but really it is not official gameplay
random gull
the only reason I ever glitched through the gate is I didn't want to get some poor skykid (especially moths) stuck in a krill path during the cutscene. Now with the inability to honk and see locations I have NO WAY of knowing if everyone's safely out of path before activating the gate
empty river
ktjn said people were having issues iirc, and things like oob areas are not usually patched because tgc is aware theyre dear to the players
bleak arrow
They literally included table glitch in patch when they changed table to transparent for others.
Tbh if you do glitch you shouldn't complain of ot goes wrong.
slim kayak
The table is transparent now to prevent people from getting blocked out of places.
bleak arrow
^thats not the point.
random gull
I'm glad it's still solid for me but I forget when my friends put a table they gotta sit to interact with it and dropped my friend accidentally when i used a table to float us
tiny umbra
They allow oobs if it doesn’t bother people, they patched the easy route to the forest elder room cause players were getting stuck there in accident just cause they missed a winged light or a plant or something
lusty light
People trying to play the game normally and getting affected by bugs absolutely have a right to complain
fresh crater
It’s too bad they had to do that because players were not considerate
lusty light
Especially if it’s preventing progression
bleak arrow
How glitching throught wasteland door affect others gameplay?
fresh crater
It triggers the krill
tiny umbra
I think that one counts as an exploit? Technically? They patch those too
fresh crater
random gull
it still triggers the krill 
here I was thinking I was not triggering the krill to save some moths
lusty light
But either way glitches get patched, that’s just how game development and quality assurance work, just because the devs are ok with some things doesn’t mean they have to allow everything
bleak arrow
I was talking about people who glitch and complain it gone wrong.
lusty light
A majority of the player base do not glitch and they’re being impacted by these issues
slim kayak
At lease they added a skip button for the gate. You have much more time to get through without getting spotted by krill. Poor moths don't get that option though
bleak arrow
Glitching through wasteland doors doesn't trigger krill, that's the point. Cutscene triggers krills.
How they are impacted?
lusty light
Because they were being soft locked in progression... I said that
tiny umbra
I remember before the cutscene became skippable the camera angles zooming in and out would get me stuck in a crevice until the cutscene ended
kindred fossil
I was talking about people who glitch and complain it gone wrong.
never seen anyone in my life complain about glitching gone wrong
trail and error is an essential part of glitching
bleak arrow
I still don't see how gate glitch lock someones progress. The button still works after glitching.
pulsar edge
Just got an ingame survey randomly. There’s so much about it that needs to be changed. Where do I report?
It’s not really a bug, but...
kindred fossil
idk lol i was just explaining why it got patched, i use that glitch pretty much every run
slim kayak
In beta? #beta-feedback
random gull
Just got an ingame survey randomly. There’s so much about it that needs to be changed. Where do I report?
@pulsar edge I've sent feedback on the survey in #beta-feedback before myself
pulsar edge
Whelp guess I gottta wait for the smolmode to end
bleak arrow
Was talking to Seraph "soft locked in progression"
kindred fossil
ok lol
pulsar edge
Just submitted feedback already on something different
slim kayak
I haven't seen the survey yet guess I gotta play sky
pulsar edge
There are a few different ones
There’s like the IAP one, the valley one, and the Eden one
I keep getting surveys over and over again in beta
kindred fossil
free candles
lusty light
Even though you personally don’t get it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t happening to others, when they made changes to calling and table people were mad even though those changes were made to prevent griefing, just because they personally weren’t being griefed
violet haven
I haven't gotten one in beta yet 🤔
slim kayak
I haven't seen a survey in beta in a long time even though i play it often
kindred fossil
when the krill glitch gets patched grab some popcorn
pulsar edge
People get upset when changes like this are made because it creates an inconvenience for those that used the existing feature to their advantage
minor robin
I left feedback on the wasteland gate patch, tho I'm pretty sure the devs know it's a very frequently used thing (like home glitch), tbh I like that there is a community culture of skipping that gate for the sake of other strangers and moths. It's very in line with sky values. I do hope they bring it back.
slim kayak
Anyways, now that the gate skip is patched, what do you think is faster, using a table to get through or just activating the gate and running?
random gull
if you close the game out IMMEDIATELY upon losing stars, it doesn't save fast enough for the stars to actually be lost
kindred fossil
using a table is faster
fresh crater
I just active the gate
lusty light
How is positioning a table and probably messing up faster than just activating the cutscene and skipping it
kindred fossil
i know how to it get right quick enough lol
fresh crater
I can get through the gate pretty quickly it’s just not a. Issue for me
slim kayak
You have to be really good at using the table
minor robin
It's worth tho, not triggering krills that could hurt others. I guess it's table practice time for me if this hits live
fresh crater
I always.make sure to honk a couple of times and check for other players
lusty light
Imo the glitches should be patched, but whatever is causing people to resort to glitching should be fixed too
pulsar edge
Honking doesn’t work anymore tho cause of the honk changes
kindred fossil
rip
lusty light
You can deep call and alert ppl of what you’re doing?
pulsar edge
But they won’t necessarily understand, especially moths
fresh crater
If you were going to fix glitches in every area there would be a lot of fixes
minor robin
Battlefield lacks cover, unlike graveyard. If the gate is not changed back I hope that the devs do add in safe zones/broken shields to hide under
slim kayak
If you honk rapidly enough maybe they'll follow
pulsar edge
When you can’t see them, there’s nothing stopping you from unintentionally releasing krill on an unsuspecting victim
fresh crater
If they are there I just wait on them
pulsar edge
Exactly, but you can’t wait on someone who may or may not even be there in the first place
lusty light
Whenever I go to the battlefield though, if someone activates the gate when I’m far away the cutscene doesn’t trigger until I’m very close to the diamond
fresh crater
Loll
kindred fossil
rip to them but i'm different
kindred fossil
yeah the cutscene doesn't trigger unless you come close, which what made it annoying in the first place
pulsar edge
If the gate skip is patched, there should be another way to get past without krilling the innocent
kindred fossil
now it's skippable so whatever
pulsar edge
An alternate gate higher up that moths can’t reach maybe
Just to let the vets slip by
fresh crater
Good idea
kindred fossil
a secret entrance?
pulsar edge
Like a crack in the bricks
minor robin
That’s like, not very inclusive tho/accessible. It’s moths and beginner players who are playing sky at a higher difficulty and with inexperienced skills. I think it’d be better to have a crack in the bricks that is at ground level and slightly hidden
They changed prairie’s cave and birdsnest entry to be more accessible to new players
I don’t feel putting a vet-exclusive entry point is quite inline with Sky’s map design principles
pulsar edge
And I’m not sure I agreed with that change in the first place. Same with the change that made shipwreck gate take wasteland spirits instead of vault
bleak arrow
that's actually pretty good idea
slim kayak
I mean, wouldn't most moths go straight to activating the gate? Its a nice, shiny thing to interact with
hollow bolt
Perhaps if they just got rid of the gate and made battlefield a maze you had to navigate for cover?
Hi Ral (:
pulsar edge
I think required backtracking is important for a richer game
So long as it’s not boring and tedious
minor robin
I was on the fence about that prairie change too in the beginning but oh my god is birdsnest/cave entry more convenient on daily candle runs.
pulsar edge
For sure, but it definitely feels like there’s less of a progression between areas now
fresh crater
What do you mean less progression
minor robin
Sorry but, if you’re a vet who isn’t running candleruns daily, you might be out of touch with the candle grind experience. I don’t want to spend an extra minute flying without getting wax if I have to. It already takes 1.5-2hr to do a substantial wax run and adding height to entry ways just adds in inconvenience
pulsar edge
Before, you had to learn to fly well to get up to the nest entrance. It felt like an accomplishment for moth me. Like I had learned and mastered flying skills. Now you just walk up to a gate
minor robin
I feel it’s accomplishment enough for new players to discover spirits to unlock those constellation gates
fresh crater
Oh Itotally agree
minor robin
Why make us go flappy bird for months?
fresh crater
It used to be so much harder to reach so many areas you really had to work at it
pulsar edge
It didn’t take months to get into nest. Weeks, at most
empty river
tbh you still have to learn how to fly well in order to do anything in bird's nest :p
fresh crater
Gave me a seance of accomplishment
minor robin
No I mean flying up there every single day.
kindred fossil
i got into nest the same day i started playing 🤨
vapid drum
@spark lance it was my device , I had the lagging and crashing in live too. Hard reset did the job 🤗
minor robin
I got into nest first week but didn’t go in regularly because I simply didn’t have the flight skills to make it into the entrance. I was that bad of a mothy flier and I didn’t have a good sense of ingame depth perception
fresh crater
In the beginning you could not fly up there on the wing power you had till you made more progress or friended so one to help
vapid drum
On above matter , I got the survey after getting the lantern
kindred fossil
not first try though, i thought i should get more stars before attempting for the 10th time that day
pulsar edge
There’s an argument for the balance of accessibility in games. Accessibility allows more people to get enjoyment out of your game, but at the cost of making the experience as a whole less rewarding. Sky has followed the route of maximum accessibility, but I feel we’ve gone too far past the point of diminishing returns on that
kindred fossil
not first try though, i thought i should get more stars before attempting for the 10th time that day
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empty river
my 3 wedges when i started beta would like to disagree with you willow lol
lusty light
What’s wrong with accessibility though, the game was made with the thought of people who have never played a game before
There may not be hard challenges for you but it is still challenging for others
pulsar edge
Never said there was anything wrong with accessibility, but there’s importance to having a balance
fresh crater
In the beginning you could not access the area to the bird nest at all you had to fly up to the opening, and the cave too
It’s way to easy now but that’s my opinion only
vapid drum
I wish I was a new player again, with no knowledge of the game whatsoever , imagine how big sky would look with all the additions done in the past year 😍
empty river
you could just use the clouds to recharge you and push you up
pulsar edge
You could, but you’d need knowledge of how to do that
empty river
i was a stubborn moth lol