the valley ost is already loud enough i dont need more of that
#beta-discussion
empty river
vapid briar
I love xkcd comics.
lusty light
Those horns on the statues aren’t for decoration
empty river
TOOT
kindred bluff
iuh-- i have a question!
what do these stand for and what are they from? 
i heard purple is "mind"
kindred fossil
toilet flush
kindred bluff
i did some reasearch for the red spiral and according to something else it means creation and rebir AHAH
dire escarp
Well seems to be craft and knowledge
empty river
eye
dire escarp
And seems to be dramatic fate / story
kindred fossil
👅
empty river
i regret
sand dawn
quick oriole
Pun?
kindred bluff
i thought meant "sol" from the circle with the dot in it (target logo?)
lunar zealot
What did you do Giccix 
empty river
a mistake
kindred bluff
but i sure was proven wrong when it turned night
vapid briar
That's prolly a good dev Q&A item. I don't know if there was specific iconography in mind when those icons were made.
dire escarp
Who let #general-sky-discussion in here 
kindred fossil
its safer here
vapid briar
since some folks are colorblind, it's important to have a secondary visual distinction.
kindred bluff
listen,,
i dont wanna bust it but,,
the earth logo might be upside down
radiant drum
Quick someone say something beta
kindred bluff
uhh uh
kindred fossil
rainbows
vapid briar
something beta
kindred bluff
hows the rainbow candle guyss
dire escarp
@kindred bluff you thinking alchemical?
empty river
what is this
lunar zealot
Portrait mode
kindred bluff
do they taste like crayons
kindred fossil
pk fire
dire escarp
@empty river Monday we find out
radiant drum
portrait mode is so good
kindred bluff
@empty river looks like fire!
vapid briar
you had it coming, Mirian
empty river
is it a hat 
lunar zealot
I agree Mirian.
radiant drum
is monday the last day of season in beta?
kindred fossil
oh right, is the season really ending in 3 days in beta?
kindred bluff
@dire escarp i think so
vapid drum
Nooooooo😱
empty river
time to mute the beta channels again lol
dire escarp
lunar zealot
Last light on Monday. and an entire week keeping quiet about it
blazing sail
Still wondering if we’ll actually get to see the end of the season in beta
sand dawn
Oh right! The season ends on the same day the last node unlocks! Do we get to test that last node?
kindred fossil
joshur made the point that the light quests stay long after the season ends, but what about the 100% cutscene
lusty light
Once the orange light releases in beta You Will Not See Me
vapid briar
the cutscene is tied to finishing all the light quests.
kindred bluff
everything gets set on fire
empty river
we disappear,,
lunar zealot
I think the cutscene might stay as well. QG in Ark has a flashing red dot
kindred bluff
ark is no more
minor robin
ohh wonder if that is the node at the very top of the tree 
radiant drum
i would cry if anything happened to my pretty ark
blazing sail
There are 6 lights but 7 nodes
dire escarp
The whole area burns?
vapid drum
We get teleported to roblox with the last node
empty river
its going kaboom mark my words
blazing sail
So is the last node unlocked right away or more waiting?
minor robin
maybe last node is cutscene
kindred fossil
yeah, it is the heart
kindred bluff
also, are those little white orbs when you return to ark through shrine having to do with a future event orr just a bug cause theres 5-6 of em
blazing sail
But then what’s the blinking light in the middle of the constellation?
Are there gonna be two cutscenes?
kindred fossil
texture bug
pulsar edge
@kindred bluff light council is probably a bug
lunar zealot
Btw, did the Ark music evolve with the lights? I feel it did
dire escarp
@kindred bluff there seems to be an extra one after each unlock
sand dawn
I’d like a way to revert the ark and start over at some point.. that sad but hopeful music of the first stages is so nice..
kindred fossil
it did, em
dire escarp
@lunar zealot yes, some people posted recordings
kindred bluff
theyre visiting you when you log into ark
minor robin
but new players wont access that constellation when the season is over, I think it’d make sense for the cutscene to be at the very very top node. so it’s visible always
lunar zealot
Good. My ears work properly
kindred bluff
yes! i posted all of the music on my youtube
pulsar edge
I don’t know what game you’re playing, the ark music for me is always Drum n Bass
empty river
no?
radiant drum
The music gets progressively stronger with more lights
Like the music is being restored as well
kindred bluff
yes!
dire escarp
quick oriole
I think the first three lights layered tracks on top of each other, then changed altogether at light 4
empty river
it is healing ~~and then 💥 ~~
blazing sail
Can’t wait for the blinking red light to finally go away
vapid drum
I’m kinda used to blinking red dots in beta
pulsar edge
Honestly imagine if the last light just set the whole thing on fire
dire escarp
I really liked the plucked string parts of the red light tbh
pulsar edge
It’s probably just lamps or fireflies or something tho
sand dawn
Maybe remove the clouds and reveal clear blue sky
radiant drum
I'm so glad I got recordings because I'm gonna miss the first soundtracks
lunar zealot
I enjoyed the simplicity of the music with no / one light, so i’m happy that and the more upbeat version flows so well together 
vapid drum
Ark needs fuel
kindred bluff
ark ost evolution
kindred fossil
beta chat but each time someone says the ark will burn down with the orange light it goes faster
radiant drum
TGC please include all of them in OST
empty river
are u saying the clouds will catch on fire? 
kindred bluff
yes
lunar zealot
Ark OST when 
kindred fossil
were reaching nyoom speeds
gilded tree
Giccix WHAT did i say about leaking spoilers
empty river
pulsar edge
Hi pines
dire escarp
Maybe fire for a hot air balloon , they all escape in
kindred bluff
i recorded all the audio and put it in the playlist i jusf sent but i hope we get an official one someday 
empty river
u must change the ending before it arrives i dont want to be right
lunar zealot
Pines.. it’s safe.. it’s beta
dire escarp
@gilded tree I accidentally triggered skybot with a guessed spoiler yesterday
pulsar edge
Lol
radiant drum
too bad we can't have nice things 
minor robin
giccix u have insider knowledge what happens next. do devs set fire~ to the rain~
pulsar edge
That’s my fault
empty river
pulsar edge
Wow
radiant drum
don't do it on purpose please
dire escarp
Yep he's still triggered
empty river
wyiott i will block u
vapid briar
there's only one cutscene, we're straying from the model of previous seasons a bit. it's tied to building up the ark and will persist after the season ends. I can see no one reads the patch notes, lol.
kindred bluff
LMAO
kindred fossil
oh, that
dire escarp
Sorry mirian
gilded tree
this has all been a long con game to bring into the world of sky
blazing sail
I always lose the link to the patch notes
pulsar edge
I actually read all the patchnotes
radiant drum
!patchnotes
gilded parrotBOT
The patch notes for the most recent update are always posted in #news. You can also find them at http://bit.ly/sky-patchnotes
dire escarp
@blazing sail just go into support ingame
radiant drum
fear not
lunar zealot
I did read them, just been a while
blazing sail
So why does the constellation flag blink then? Will that ever have something attached to it?
empty river
i do not see
vapid drum
Bug fixes and improvements and quality of life changes
pulsar edge
@blazing sail that’s how you’ll access the cutscene
sand dawn
I did read.. but keep forgetting it’s not linked to the season
blazing sail
But I would assume the cutscene would be activated at the Ark?
quick oriole
Maybe both the top node in the tree and the flag will just trigger the same cutscene
blazing sail
Oh. Maybe
pulsar edge
Top node in the tree is probably a heart
kindred fossil
yeeeah, it is
vapid briar
patch notes are in-game...in the same spot...always 
vapid drum
I hope not ☹️
minor robin
but hearts have been given thru diagonal nodes so far...
kindred bluff
i hope its some freeforall ultima- aw
kindred fossil
thats what ive been saying, its a heart
lunar zealot
We’ll find out on Monday about the cutscene 
empty river
i definitely not look at the patch notes in game jsjsjsjs
radiant drum
I mean they're to the side because that's something else up
minor robin
cutscene... this new emote was added just in time
lunar zealot
Smh Giccix
quick oriole
Okay so maybe the cutscene plays once all 6 lights are done, and it’s just the same as the seasonal flag one
pulsar edge
@minor robin based on the composition of all other spirit trees in sky, if an item has a choice to go up or to the side, it’ll always go up
blazing sail
Basically we have one day to see the end of the season, assuming we even can 😰
vapid drum
That would mean 2 hearts for the last node ??
minor robin
but for this whole season we’ve gotten hearts diagonally from quest giver 
kindred bluff
imagine if when we finished a season a flag of that seasons logo would appear in the homespace
pulsar edge
Tbh if one of the side nodes was the highest mode on a tree, it would look weird
minor robin
im not gonna debate it further anyway, question will be answered in time
sand dawn
Gonna be a bit disappointed if it’s just a heart.. I have so many of those.. and nothing to spend them on!
kindred fossil
exactly my point, ral
blazing sail
It would be cool to be able to rewatch old seasons’ cutscenes instead of like the prairie cutscenes 8000 times. <duck>
kindred bluff
especially after a double heart event
pulsar edge
@sand dawn I mean, there’s not much else for it to be, is there?
vapid drum
@sand dawn you could go for the invincible cape in beta 🤣
kindred bluff
👀
vapid briar
the npc in the ark and the daily questgiver are two different NPCs
kindred bluff
imposte r
vapid drum
So its the white light at the end
minor robin
twiNS
radiant drum
the npc in the ark is ktjn clone
sand dawn
Twin brothers
radiant drum
when you finish the season it just tells you to sneep
kindred fossil
thats his twin brother, muhammad abu ali the 11th
empty river
no pls my brain
vapid briar
that's a design Q&A question.
dire escarp
And so we sleep for 100 years under the sand
lunar zealot
Mirian i felt that
blazing sail
Will we ever find out why they built their ships out of stone instead of wood like normal people?
pulsar edge
@blazing sail you could say the same about humans and metal
dire escarp
I guess it's hard to organise a devstream when everyone is at home though
vapid drum
House party live stream with the devs 😊
empty river
well they arent normal people to begin with
lunar zealot
Maybe it’s magic stone..
crisp plinth
how does stone boat even float 🗿
radiant drum
magic stone
sand dawn
Magical stone, easier to enchant with low gravity spell
empty river
magic 
kindred fossil
power diamonds
dire escarp
Dark stone?
radiant drum
darkstone
dire escarp
Snap
vapid drum
Krill droppings
blazing sail
But stone is heavy
pulsar edge
The spirits don’t have strong metal, in case you haven’t noticed. Mostly gold
blazing sail
And look where it got them
empty river
oh hey then the boat cant catch on fire! so i might be wrong!!
quick oriole
The only trees are in forest and no one wants to get lumber in the rain
kindred fossil
its a fantasy world, the less it makes sense the better
vapid briar
We're discussing ways to do something livestream like while we're remote, but it's a process.
pulsar edge
@quick oriole except that one apologetic lumberjack
radiant drum
that would be lovely 
empty river
dire escarp
@kindred fossil yeah like the connection between rain, bells and manta
pulsar edge
Are #beta-feedback and #live-feedback anonymous or does Ktjn secretly hate me
vapid briar
there isn't anyone i secretly hate
blazing sail
Only openly?
pulsar edge
Only openly.
vapid briar
the feedback channels are post-only because some folks get a little toxic with their word choices and we received reports of it being upsetting for other players to read how players talk to us. only tgc staff and mods can read it now.
lunar zealot
I think the skybot message is only meant to be informative?
vapid briar
I wouldn't say I hate anyone unless they're being bigoted or extremely abusive. Even then, I'd try to understand why they're being hateful before completely dismissing them.
your name is tied to the feedback, yes. it's not anonymous.
pulsar edge
@lunar zealot skybot also physically deletes your message, and presumably pastes it elsewhere
dire escarp
@vapid briar haha ninja edit
vapid briar
you saw nothing 
dire escarp
I saw you have everyone except those bigots
lunar zealot
But i saw
pulsar edge
Freudian slip. Ktjn hates everyone you heard it here guys
vapid briar
yes, it's moved to a private channel viewable by relevant parties.
dire escarp
Right back to the exploring
pulsar edge
I try not to get hateful with my feedback messages. I don’t call names or anything like that. But I do speak bluntly and honestly, no matter how harsh, because honestly I think that’s better for everyone. I don’t sugarcoat things
vapid briar
you can give negative feedback and still be respectful with your word choice.
Just because it's dumped into an empty chat channel doesn't mean the devs reading it deserve to be denigrated with abusive language. no one deserves that, no matter how upset with a design choice you are.
pulsar edge
I don’t put you down as far as I can remember. I try to at least not be disrespectful.
Quick gripe, apparently one of the reasons follow was restricted to only friends is cause some players complained that other players were “exploiting their navigation effort” and I was just appalled that someone would complain that they helped someone else at no cost to themselves
minor robin
ehhhh I would chalk it up to cultural differences and need for personal space
vapid briar
some folks like to post the same "feedback" with increasingly abusive and aggressive tones until we have to reach out to them and explain getting abusive accomplishes nothing.
minor robin
everyone has different needs for distance, some people might just want to vibe and chill with only their friends. that’s valid too cause we don’t kno a person’s anxiety levels or social needs
sand dawn
Has the language gotten better or worse with it not being visible to anyone else? Or unchanged?..
I could imagine people think they can get away with worse because there is less social repercussions from other players reading their feedback...
vapid briar
It feels bad if you're doing the work and someone auto-follows you and gets the same reward. If you're friends with someone there's a certain level of consent to following them.
and culture differences in regard to personal space very greatly from region to region.
worn field
it feels kinda weird to be followed irl, and i get a similar feeling sometimes in sky, personally. it's not so bad in the valley races, but if i'm trying to have a relaxing walk/fly around, that's different.
vapid briar
It depends, some people are much more thoughtful with their feedback, others get increasingly nastier.
sand dawn
(It’s not like follow is perfect.. you can’t just follow and expect to be taken trough whole maps without having to do some manual movement..)
pulsar edge
In the race I actively like being followed by strangers. It makes them faster, and if they zip past me, I can follow them, which ends up making us both faster
blazing sail
The follow thing — I always thought it was strange that you can follow someone but I remember making use of it back when I started and hated that dang jellyfish jump when I had almost no wings.
Kind of sucks that players who are struggling can’t latch on like that anymore
pulsar edge
Now I don’t even see those jellyfish anymore. I use the birbs
minor robin
hhhh I am personally a person who gets wigged out when people follow me in race. my route in slide is personal to me, I’ve developed and refined a lot of little tricks here and there and spent time to learn the curve of slopes to get top speeds. I want to have fun and compete against other people. I don’t wanna drag someone lazy
crisp plinth
I kind of just go into panic mode if I notice a stranger following me ._.
I don't care in races or if they follow me up to places like that winged light in shipwreck, but if I'm just hanging out it's weird to me.
vapid briar
falls back into that fallacy where just because you don't find it a problem, doesn't mean others will not have different reactions to the same situation.
perception of an event will vary drastically from person to person.
blazing sail
I thought you can still follow in the race?
minor robin
I also do have a friend who experiences severe motion sickness, instead of following people they ask for ubers and I am more than happy to assist them thru races 
it’s really about consent. and consent builds stronger bonds
worn field
maybe, app. since in the race you automatically "light up" the other racers
pulsar edge
Yeah but follow us friend-based, not light-based
worn field
oh i see
blazing sail
Feel really lucky that Sky doesn’t give me motion sickness.
Played a bit of the latest AA game — instantly sick
pulsar edge
You missed the third A
sand dawn
(You can just go afk in the “races” and often you end up at the end anyway..
And grabbing a single light is as good as painstakingly collecting them all.)
blazing sail
No...Apple Arcade
blazing sail
Yeah I only pay attention in the races if I need wings
lunar zealot
I very much enjoy the more consent given route myself. I can see why some people are more opposed to the idea though. We all have our differences, both in play-style and other matters
blazing sail
Otherwise I afk
I understand the follow change a lot more than I understand the change to echolocation
pulsar edge
Still think it would be fine if all it required was lighting up.
blazing sail
It’s really bizarre not knowing if you’re in an empty server or a full one
sand dawn
It would be nice to have a kind of “temporary friendship” like, I’d like to help new players or reach just strangers in general.. but I don’t want to drown my constellation with them.
vapid briar
I've talked about this before, but we've had cases of reported "targeted harassment" and when we reviewed the videos, it was just a group of friends chatting normally or doing emotes together for fun and the person being "harassed" wasn't even noticed by the group. They chose to interpret it as being made fun of instead of leaving the area or even go so far as to make friends with the group. I'm not mentioning it to make fun of the person who reported it, because their feelings of stress were very real to them. Just that the larger picture painted a very different story than what a single point of view could ascertain.
pulsar edge
I think that’s a thing that might work for the shepherd system
Maybe the shepherds could be able to automatically hold hands with moths
lunar zealot
To me, the server doesn’t feel empty with the changes. Sure, sometimes i do miss the old mechanic, but for the majority i like having to consent to showing up on the map— even if it’s only a star with no name or anything identifying
sand dawn
Now follow is no longer possible for strangers AND you cannot see them when they are not within visible range.. it is very hard to have much interaction with strangers
vapid drum
I love the changes , i can even see if a player needs help, but the game became somehow more peaceful
blazing sail
I dunno, it feels weird that I’m forced to see people’s honks but can’t just quietly see how many people are around
And I think people tend to honk more now
Since it’s the only way to be seen
minor robin
One thing I need to test more with honklocation is how consistently people show up when they’ve lost all their light. I’ve been to graveyard and heard someone get krilled..... IDK if it was server merge or if their star disappeared cause they literally/technically became unlit to me... but I never found them.
worn field
i had an idea that maybe the change to calling will encourage us to stick together more and maybe actually make friends, (for example, instead of helping them get their stars back after being krilled and then instantly parting ways). if people are harder to find, and easier to lose, it feels more important to stay together.
minor robin
I tired deep call, I tried honking a lot as I flew to them. nada
pulsar edge
Small honk spam doesn’t work to show up to other players, does it?
blazing sail
I still find it absolutely mind boggling that people find ways to grief just by knowing there are people around. Jesus
pulsar edge
You gotta do big ones
minor robin
tried all sorts of call sizes, big medium small
sand dawn
It can be vital information to be able to do a headcount of how many others are present..
Like when you want a friend to join, you must know if the instance is full 8/8 players or not..
pulsar edge
@minor robin no wyiott sorry I wasn’t addressing your situation, I was asking
minor robin
I’ve done short honks in prairie and unlit ppl also answered me with short honks too.
blazing sail
Only deep calls work now?
worn field
you shouldn't need to think about something technical like max number of players in a server-instance, imo (breaks immersion)
lunar zealot
I believe that other players stars will still only show if they honk / deep call. If i read the notes correct
crisp plinth
Deep calls show the eye I think
Little calls just show the star thing
pulsar edge
But the game makes you think of those things
sand dawn
Yeah..
blazing sail
you shouldn't need to think about something technical like max number of players in a server-instance, imo
@worn field Then there shouldn’t be any multiplayer puzzles
quick oriole
I’m waiting about a week or so to give much feedback on the tweaked call change where people can respond. I want to see how it effects actions between myself and other players first
pulsar edge
Today is the one week mark
dire escarp
just thinking on the "personal space" thing, everyone I know after we hug or high5 does a little twirl to get back to a "distance" that seems right, even though it really doesn't matter
minor robin
same mood, skycat. I’m taking notes as I go 
lunar zealot
Speaking of multiplayer puzzle, especially the 8-person one: it has been so easy to get enough people in a short amount of time, that does light the switch as well, i feel, quicker than before
blazing sail
The max number of people also tells you if the reason your friend can’t join you is that the server is full
And you can then tell them if a spot opened
dire escarp
humans are a strange bunch, especially when I learnt that across cultures, a "moment" is generally 3 seconds
vapid briar
It doesn't help that the call change was bugged when it went live, now that it's working properly, we want it to breathe a little in the community before we make any further changes.
dire escarp
anything longer and it becomes weird, anything shorter and it seems rushed
blazing sail
These are all just really useful tools that it sucks to lose after using them for so long
worn field
app, i feel like the solution to that should be the devs adjusting matchmaking, not the players counting the players in their server-instance. for me that breaks immersion.
pulsar edge
@lunar zealot that could be because of improvements to the instancing system, players being more experienced, there being more players, or other things
minor robin
lol personal space... is interesting to watch post valley race stadium cutscene. everyone makes space asap cause fhfhf if you’re close in height you both look at each other and it looks like kissing and urge to escape is at all time high lmao
my hand is already on the directional circle to zip outta there
blazing sail
app, i feel like the solution to that should be the devs adjusting matchmaking, not the players counting the players in their server-instance. for me that breaks immersion.
@worn field Adjust it how?
pulsar edge
IRL I have no concept of personal space. I’m one of those people. It’s a problem
quick oriole
The only time I have anything resembling personal space issues in the game is when I get those occasional people who join literally the moment I get on. Every. Single. Time.
minor robin
pulsar edge
I’m one of those, I’m sorry, I’m just excited to see friend
minor robin
I had this person who would do that... and automatically take my hand without saying anything. like- n n n nnnoo
blazing sail
I guess what I’m saying is that I wish that change hadn’t been made until they had a system in place to replace it
pulsar edge
Again, wyiott, me, I’m sorry
blazing sail
Assuming they have plans for one
worn field
i never warp to someone as they go online bc i know it can be uncomfortable (for me and some people i've talked to about it)
minor robin
I absolutely require some small talk before I offer hand or someone takes it
worn field
app, i'd say it's worth making the change to prevent griefing sooner rather than later, even if a 'replacement' system isn't ready
blazing sail
I just really miss that feature 😞
pulsar edge
there’s an argument to be made for testing the system in beta
minor robin
I think this situation and circumstance, I’m glad the change hit the ground running, for better or worse
blazing sail
That too — we never really tested it bc we weren’t sure if it was a bug
minor robin
tho it is a shame that beta simply doesnt have the population for super accurate practical testing
but also life-work-play balance +burn out
blazing sail
And beta in general is really quiet
pulsar edge
@blazing sail At the very least it wasn’t told to us in the beta updates
blazing sail
So I don’t really bother with multiplayer quests without friends
minor robin
I don’t think anyone should feel super obliged to play beta as intensely as live
pulsar edge
I don’t think anyone should feel super obliged to play beta as intensely as live
*looks at lilichi*
minor robin
I personally dive into beta for targeted testing. live is my focus or I’d burn out 
worn field
btw, i've just gone through the sliding race a couple times and haven't been able to follow anyone at all
blazing sail
I didn’t even do Eden in beta until the traveling spirits were added
pulsar edge
Yeah, follow is based on friend
minor robin
it still works in live with friends, I accidentally zipped to velo during slide
worn field
just testing again to be sure
pulsar edge
I was doing Eden in beta after the first spirit, I saw the fox spirit give me buff, I came here screaming
I was so excited
worn field
btw, has anyone been giving feedback on the non-seasonal spirits? i feel like it might have been forgotten because there's other more exciting things happening rn
i'm struggling to remember the spirit memories
minor robin
I gave some feedback on the names but hmmm come to think of it some of the particles aren’t loading as nicely for me compared to some vids i’ve seen
blazing sail
I thought the names were removed?
worn field
for now
pulsar edge
Does anyone else hate the name “Strong Climber” with a passion?
minor robin
like when you light up their statue at the end, I realize there’s supposed to be blue sparks flying out nicely but mine kinda bust out and camera snaps to a different angle
pulsar edge
It’s so generic
worn field
but Ktjn asked for feedback on the memories, since they're working on making the stories of their memories clearer
sand dawn
If they want feedback on memories... it’d help a lot if we could relive them..,
It’s been done before, it’s a toggle somewhere..?
worn field
that was removed for a pretty good reason
pulsar edge
I really liked that we could relive them anytime tho
minor robin
mantaaaa call spirit 
worn field
we can see screenshots of the memories in an album Mirian put together.
what i'm pushing myself to remember is how i felt when i relived them for the first time. it was 8 months ago
pulsar edge
It just needs to be better telegraphed when we need to relive them versus when we just can for no reason
blazing sail
I didn’t really pay close attention to most
I think the blue glow makes it hard to really see what’s happening, honestly
minor robin
s-same I just zipped to them asap cause go-go-go-go
worn field
i would like to be able to relive them all too. including the cutscenes they have at the end
blazing sail
When we could briefly relive them when they were gray, I actually started to make more sense out of them
minor robin
especially forest where rain hh h u rt
pulsar edge
Being able to relive them was a good feature, it just had errors in the execution
blazing sail
The timed ones definitely don’t invite you to watch their story
sand dawn
I’d like to see relive all spirits linked to an item, like a book of memories
Could be a thing to get somewhere high up in vault.. possibly in eden after getting the hair?
No player who would get to that point would be confused about reliving spirits! They’d be exited to do so after so long!
minor robin
tbh we’re mostly seeing their back sides...
worn field
there's always the option of shadowing a moth, but that could feel weird for the moth, who might be weirded out or want to make friends with you and you're just following them around. and even then you can't watch the cutscene for the end of the memory.
blazing sail
That also means you need a constant influx of new players to follow just to watch them
pulsar edge
Ktjn, if you’re lurking, please consider. The reason the feature was removed is because of confusion, not because it was bad. If you ever find a way to reduce/remove the confusion, please add it back. Also adding the ability to watch the attached cutscenes would be nice (but only if you make them skippable lol) thanks
sand dawn
I want the whole memory.. incl that big vault tree
pulsar edge
Oh yea the big tree, I haven’t seen that in so longt
worn field
Rat, if you want the tgc team to consider it, that belongs in a feedback channel
sand dawn
(Same)
pulsar edge
This was just in case Ktjn was lurking
empty river
putting it here doesnt mean the devs will read it, even this chat goes nyoom sometimes
sand dawn
(Same.. xD)
blazing sail
Not sure why the prompt you see now can’t be used to prevent people from reliving it when they don’t need/want to
pulsar edge
It’s a bit clunky to put a confirmation box on a spirit
blazing sail
Yeah but after the 5th time they might read it
But there’s one now
Or at least a message box
Just needs an X and a 
added
pulsar edge
We aren’t reliving the spirits right now. It would probably be more annoying if we were reliving these and had to click a check every time. Also it would look and feel odd and clunky
minor robin
hmmm the x/checkmark feels kinda immersion breaking. like yeah we do get that at certain points but it’s confined to constellation UI and ||eden||
blazing sail
Better than not having the option at all
pulsar edge
Debatable
blazing sail
minor robin
maybe saturdays, everything relivable
sand dawn
If it’s an item it would add to the immersion imo..
pulsar edge
My gut feeling is to use colors to denote relivability, but colorblindness is an issue
minor robin
thooo wait... spirits do get kinda annoying sometimes cause the camera very aggressively swings to them
sand dawn
Seems like a good thing to get in eden with those excess hearts..
minor robin
if you’re a weird range, it can be pretty disruptive
lunar zealot
Relive all spirits could be a bit like an event maybe? Every 9 days like the ||spaceday||?
minor robin
oh 9 became 7 I heard.
lunar zealot
Oh really?
sand dawn
They scratched 2 office things?
minor robin
yeah, someone in q&h observed it was active same day as last week
worn field
even with different colors, i think newer players will be confused. were the spirits gray back when we could relive them?
turbid mortar
Yeah
pulsar edge
The fix for the relive confusion, It might come down to designing a new symbol, one that means “relive” as opposed to the normal flame symbol, in addition to a color change
lunar zealot
They where grey, but flame icon was lit iirc josh
worn field
i see 
pulsar edge
I’m just brainstorming, don’t mind me
sand dawn
I love brainstorming
pulsar edge
I like the idea of a relive icon. Might not be obvious enough though, because that’s where your finger is
At least on smaller screens
blazing sail
I think they were white not gray
worn field
for now i'll stick to reliving with friends i guess. i just wish i could see the cutscene at the end.
blazing sail
I remember being confused the first time I saw one
minor robin
...maybe after doing eden x amount of times, relive becomes an option- or if you give that particular spirit an ascendant candle in the tree
blazing sail
But then you realize and get used to it
minor robin
if you’ve ascended them, that at least adds in a benchmark for experience
worn field
that or maybe we can relive more spirits with daily quests, that'd work fine for a lot of the spirits.
sand dawn
I think relive just shouldn’t be an option until you “complete the game” (or at least such a significant part of it that you are familiar enough with it not to be confused by the renewed ability to relive spirits)
worn field
that's a good idea, wyiott 
lunar zealot
Hmm maybe reliving spirits could follow a random schedule and every day one or two spirits would be open to reliving from whatever realm? Could “help” the relive quest as well to spruce up the spirit choices
minor robin
im smurt some tiemz
worn field
i hope y'all put these ideas in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
pulsar edge
@minor robin oh that might be a good idea. To build on that, maybe you can pay at the spirit itself rather than in home, to avoid it being abused for fast travel
Though the idea of using ACs on spirits for fast travel interests me
lunar zealot
Tomorrow Josh, too tired. Think i’m gonna scoot of to sleep 
worn field
sneep snorp 
lunar zealot
I’ll dream about relive spirits i’m sure
fresh quiver
I didn't realize there were patch notes in game, but I just checked and they haven't been updated since Jan 10 on android. Does ios have more recent patch notes?
radiant drum
#beta-announcements should have them
Sometimes builds don’t get detailed patch notes until they go to live though
random gull
just read bug news. will the wasteland rainbow be fixed in time to get the seasonal candle today?
radiant drum
it only says it will be fixed in next build, things not working in beta are not usually top priority
if you scroll up in #beta-screenshots-videos though some people shared how to complete the quest
random gull
ty. seems I gotta wait another hour now though D: setting a timer on my phone
acoustic osprey
When was the last time they opened the beta for new people? How often does it happen?
radiant drum
check the pins in this channel
acoustic osprey
Oh sorry, thanks for the help
jovial remnant
what do the giant potion does
empty river
there is no giant potion, only resize potions (and those are random)
prisma quiver
one of the dev said the eden candles will be useful at the next version
Are they bringing out the spell shop?
prisma quiver
Days of rainbow
empty river
prisma quiver
Seems funny
lusty light
What dev said that?
prisma quiver
Jenova Chen on Twitter
empty inlet
eden candles will be useful
i remember this, but this was related to traveling spirits
cloud glen
ngl but sky beta 2018 had a massive difference from today's sky :o
vapid briar
the game has changed a lot in 2 years, yes.
high mantle
lusty light
@pseudo scarab please put bug reports in #beta-bugs-ios and not in the feedback channels
pseudo scarab
There is a chanel for beta Android?
empty inlet
yep
slim kayak
ancient wave
slim kayak
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pseudo scarab
Yes! #beta-discussion-android
@slim kayak Sorry for beta Android bug
slim kayak
Ah, there is #beta-bugs-android
empty inlet
actually any bug report channel will work, just react to the right version of game when skybot dm you
clear portal
Is everyone getting credit for the rainbow candles? I’ve been twice but the quest isn’t showing as completed.
empty inlet
and post from Maelstrom https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/618891214527266846/713452394566123580
clear portal
Did but I’ll check again. Thanks.
raw viper
I want to ask that did the ark done in this version yet? Thank you
empty inlet
it should be done but we don't know yet
empty inlet
i know jenova kinda leaked it out but we don't know anything about it
worn field
we can only speculate for now
raw viper
Thanks 🙏 and sorry if it not allow to show
worn field
👁️
re: viewing patchnotes ingame - while there haven't been patchnotes in sky beta since jan 10, the regular game gets patchnotes regularly, with the most recent post being from may 19. this is on iOS, tho. maybe it's different on android. (@fresh quiver)
Ktjn's told us why detailed patchnotes haven't been put together for beta, lately:
things change so much during beta, publishing preemptive patch notes was causing more problems than it resolved.
fresh quiver
Ah, okay. I saw someone mention earlier that patch notes were in game and I thought they were different than #beta-announcements
My mistake 
vale shale
48 more hours
hollow compass
I hope people will respect that beta content stays in beta...
main pivot
Did they patch out that glitch that makes your sky kid super tiny if you use a shrink spell because if they did I’m gonna be sad
hollow compass
we haven't had a patch yet
worn field
no rainbow today 😔
main pivot
uuuughgggh now I’m really sad
i just looked in the screenshots channel
the micro chibi glitch looked like so much fun D:
full rock
no rainbow in home today, me sad
dry pivot
oh, so it's not that the vault has no rainbow, but Days of Rainbow is over in beta?
full rock
its too short to end like this
spark lance
It's no fun without friends.
main pivot
Did Santa ever get patched or is he still huge
honest folio
no rainbow quest today?
dry pivot
nope
i just don't get why the rainbow in the home space is also gone, and remembered that events in beta could be really short
but they'll surely come back if TGC needs more testing
honest folio
it's barely been tested though
worn field
i expect we'll be testing it more, considering Ktjn said there'll be adjustments in the next build
dry pivot
yeah
main pivot
Yeah but as far as I know they still have yet to patch said bug
astral surge
i think it has been
main pivot
This is probably going to make some people hate me but honestly if that has happened
I’m glad it did
main pivot
It may just be my petty jealousy and generally pessimistic outlook on life talking but I just found Santa to be nothing but a walking reminder of what the game won’t let me do and seeing the community basically idolize him for something that wasn’t his fault only drove the knife in deeper
i’ll shut up now
mortal quarry
I know the days of rainbow thing isnt live yet but does anyone know what it's for? Like the days of earth thing was for the fires. idk what im saying just help lol
spark lance
For pride month i believe
mortal quarry
oh i thought so nice
spark lance
Ikr
mortal quarry
:D 🏳️🌈
spark lance
Tsg really did say gay rights
spark lance
🏳️🌈 
mortal quarry
🏳️🌈 👍
vapid drum
Oh god , live chat moves sooooo fast
But I can’t see candle messages in live at the vault quest ???
Is it bugged ?
elder musk
vapid drum
Well , it’s still there for me on the ground level
hollow compass
Let’s not make assumptions about anything in beta, please.
late temple
There should be meditate on the quest tomorrow 😊
blazing sail
???
hollow compass
A lot of older beta testers have the beta cape, yes.
quaint onyx
Wait, what'd I miss an entire something about rainbows?
vapid drum
🦄🌈
raw viper
What rainbow candle use for?
quaint onyx
There were feral rainbows stalking the worlds of Sky?
hollow compass
Such a nuisance.
quaint onyx
A day after a game-breaking bug you add an entire new thing?
Also involving rainbows
blazing sail
Yeah they would only let you pet them for 10 minutes per hour
hollow compass
Game-breaking? What did I miss? 🤔
quaint onyx
Oh, I meant deese rainbows
#beta-screenshots-videos message
burnt cipher
no defined gender for moths
pride month event
Am I the only one to see a contradiction here? Not against it, but...
hollow compass
I don’t see a contradiction, no. But I also don’t think this is a debate that belongs on this server, because it is only bound to cause drama.
burnt cipher
You are right, yeah.
spark lance
jovial remnant
wait
next season
is season of rainbow?
no defined gender for moths
pride month event
Am I the only one to see a contradiction here? Not against it, but...
@burnt cipher to the sky kids they probley think is just celebrating rainbows
dry pivot
nope we were testing "upcoming days of rainbow event" not a season
sonic talon
Isn’t it like with the rainbow candles or something?
Man I really want to get into Beta
dry pivot
Each day we had a daily quest asking us to find "the rainbow candles". There was a rainbow somewhere in the level and we could find a candle cake (normal red one) at one end of the rainbow. We also had a rainbow at home with no candles
royal elm
will the home rainbow be permanent? or will it leave like the ice rink
dry pivot
We don't know yet, but i guess it will leave when the days of rainbow event ends.
royal elm
i wonder if we'll get a special cosmetic
events usually have an associated cosmetic in the store
dry pivot
maybe, but nothing has been announced yet
river fern
Hey considering that I have access to the beta channels now, does this mean I can start beta testing Sky?
dry pivot
access to beta channels in this server is not tied to beta testing membership
but ppl with a beta member role like you will be notified when TGC added new beta slots
spark lance
hello how do you get beta member role ?
dry pivot
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spark lance
thanks a lot
dry pivot
np
river fern
Thanks so much
spark lance
Did they told us when the update of the rainbow event will go live?
lusty light
No
kindred fossil
were still starting ^^;
potent hemlock
I’m not actually in beta but... uhm... how the heck are we going to put a rainbow in vault?
Like, it’s a building. How are we going to fit a rainbow?
worn field
magic 🌈
potent hemlock
bUt ItS a BuIlDiNg
worn field
a magic building
worn field
sky has lots of magic in it, so i'm fine with it
worn field
jade forge
Hi. During the release of Huawei P40 without Google services, a question arose. The appgallery (Huawei app store) has a beta version of Sky Children of the Light, and of course you can't install it. Will the global version of the game be available in the AppGallery store without the necessary Google services, since Huawei devices are shipped without these services.
Or will these users have to manually install Google Services to play Sky? Yes, of course there is such an instruction, but the process is not very simple.
I don't expect an answer in the near future, as this is a very difficult question, since the game is being developed using Google Services from the very beginning, and no other development outcomes have been noticed, but I just remind you of these users.
blazing sail
Rainbow inside the telekinesis room
hollow compass
@jade forge I think your question is better directed directly at TGC. 🙂 Or maybe #android-questions
blazing sail
And we use telekinesis to move it outside
hollow wind
@jade forge Sky has a built-in google login, so as long as your country can access google, then you should be able to login directly in game. (Assuming you already installed Sky from Google Play store)
jade forge
@hollow wind However, if the device does not have Google Services, you can install the game manually using the game files and sai, but there will be no sync with Google Services, which means that saving will only be Local.
hollow compass
The game is an online game. You can’t play it without access to the internet.
hollow wind
Oof. Cannot answer that question. Currently Sky does have a couple illegal migration users that got through doing manual installation
hollow compass
@jade forge this isn’t a beta issue, but rather something related to Huawei.
TGC can’t do anything about that.
knotty whale
where is the rainbow zone? i read about it on beta news
lusty light
Not being tested anymore
lusty light
It’s just a rainbow event where a rainbow pops up during certain times of the day in a level
knotty whale
ok thanks
royal elm
beta gets the orange light tomorrow right
worn field
@royal elm you can check that in-game by viewing the quest-giver's menu
royal elm
oh I'm not in beta, I was asking since I remember someone saying beta is a week ahead of live
royal elm
gotcha
hollow wind
Did they fix the chibi bug? ;-;
worn field
i believe so
empty inlet
connecting issue, friends still being separated into different server instances after isle, prairie cutscene at the end
And seems you can’t rewatch isle spirit memories even though brownies activate them
dire escarp
Oh the graves are changed in beta so each Realm has the graves rather than social of the next area
Eden feels even stranger and more desolate now, I love it
vivid summit
Hi guys, tell me whether it is possible to become a beta tester at the moment?
thanks in advance for your reply
vapid briar
beta is currently full
tall sigil
Does 10 minutes on top of the hour means 10 minute after every hour?
hollow wind
Or you could think of it as the first 10 minutes of a new hour
totally depends on you
vapid briar
Top of the hour is an expression based on analog clocks, where the minute hand is pointing straight up 🕛 The rainbows spawn for the first ten minutes (e.g. from 12:00 to 12:10) every hour. We're changing the timing of the rainbows in the next build to appear more frequently.
tall sigil
Thank you!!
full rock
i love the rainbow
elder meteor
Does the seasonal quest start at today ?
dry pivot
the next and last light quest will become available in 24 hours and 10 minutes
not today
empty inlet
or not tomorrow
dry pivot
it's tomorrow for many of us
anyway, if you see in-game message saying "1 day left" for something
it actually mean 24 hours plus remaining hours of the day in PST/PDT
fair current
hmst
both season and last light quest r 23h remaining
so we need to accurate to seconds to complete this mission?
main pivot
Any updates on the existence of micro chibis or are they still extinct
worn field
i haven't heard anything, so i'm guessing that bug is fixed
dry pivot
yeah they could put height limits without updating the app. they did that before in live
i am not sure if they did that in beta after the micro chibi bug happened, but if that was the case it won't come back
main pivot
This sucks man i just wanna be tiny :(
potent hemlock
Does the beta open often?
worn field
no
Last opening on iOS was in December, prior to that was August.
Last opening on android was in March, prior to that was November and September.
potent hemlock
Aww
Also, is the android beta used the same as the iOS beta? Was it only used for testing the app before it’s release or is it now used to test future updates?
main pivot
its main use is testing new features
worn field
android beta will continue, just like ios beta
vast seal
how do you go into beta?
hidden quarry
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spark lance
@main pivot aren't they bringing aviary back?
worn field
TGC has told us (multiple times) that they plan to bring back aviary. but it needs to be reworked first, and TGC already has a very long todo list.
blazing sail
Beta is so quiet right now I can’t even find an acquaintance to make
worn field
it was really busy at reset
blazing sail
Ugh I found two and the quest didn’t register them
worn field
for beta anyway
blazing sail
Man, beta is so laggy lately
somber venture
Welp great. Someone burrowed my phone and deleted both Testflight and Sky Beta. Tried using the same link I used last time but it says beta was full
I'll have to wait 7 extra days for
I wanted to see whether not it had anything to do with the holy council..
worn field
if i'm not mistaken, you can redownload testflight and you'll still be registered as a sky beta tester, as long as you're logged in with the same apple id
somber venture
hm, let's see
oh- thank you joshur
missed out on 2 days of the season due to this but it's obviously my fault
worn field
don't be hard on yourself 
somber venture
YEEEE MONDAY COME ALREADYYYY
I wanna see if any bugs will occur like how the red light stayed stationary one time
bugs.. so fun!~
blazing sail
Are they already doing something about the lag in beta or should I report it as a bug?
It’s uncomfortable to play
worn field
maybe, but you should probably report it
the more data tgc gets, the easier it is to figure out what's up
willow sage
The lag is also in live i think they're gonna fix both (logic😂)i'll report it too
willow sage
Im on android maybe that's why it's worse
willow sage
Idk mine😂
I used to not crash a lot but since the lastest updates i crash soooo many times especially in wasteland and forest, in both versions
And my game freezes when i go through portals
fair current
valid latch
😭😭😭
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fair current
oof
kindred fossil
how many times were you told that this isnt allowed
worn field
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crisp plinth
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inland halo
Was funny to see Triumph run started without door open
Has to in-out location twice to fix the script
naive flame
Anyone else have issues with the make an acquaintance quest?
spark lance
It never works normally retry and retry
proper galleon
Guys is the portait mod available or not in the real game ?
Okay thx do we have a release date or not ?
Okay thank you for your answer 
olive raptor
This is...maybe a dumb question but is the new season supposed to have begun in beta already? Or is there still ~17 hours left of the current live season? Im guessing I am confused, but with all the talk about pop-up rainbows I keep thinking maybe my game is bugged and I should be onto the next season
Sorry if this has already been asked/answered I tried to look through the chat and the beta update channel but I am still confused 😣
pallid badger
Enchantment is still being tested in beta. new seasons dont tend to begin testing until after the conclusion of the season in the live game. The new season won't be testing in Beta for a few weeks yet.
olive raptor
Ah okok thank you! And sorry again 😅 so the rainbows just appear randomly somewhere in game during the first 10 minutes of the hour? Or does that not begin until Tuesday since it is a long weekend?
dry pivot
in beta, Days of Rainbow had started and ended and may return again next week
or later, or never
if you are playing beta and need more info the last 2 posts in #beta-known-issues are helpful
hollow compass
Most likely, TGC is looking into making the daily quests a bit more varied. That’s all.
prime belfry
They are working actively on the questions for meditation as evidenced by the "night_night5" place holder message in vault yesterday
sleek stump
I wonder when the next beta slots open up...wish I get a chance to get in... 🥺
hollow compass
@sleek stump check the pins
sleek stump
Hmm, I know...it says there is not set schedule, it was just a rhetorical question kinda? Idk how to explain sorry ^^;
hollow compass
I'm sorry, I understand you are impatient, but this isn't the channel for that.
sleek stump
oh nonononono ^^; I'm just curious and really want to get into beta but if it means waiting months i'll do it ÒwÓ (basically i'm not impatient I am just curious however I don't really care if I get answer ^^;), hehe I just am so excited :3, hope you understand ^^;
also sorry mods if i'm going off topic ;-;
dark quail
willow sage
If the light is available at the same time the season ends, do you think we'll even get to catch it?
hollow compass
We’ll just have to wait and see.
worn field
i think we'll be able to, since the light quests aren't tied to the season, but yes we won't know for sure until we try
willow sage
So maybe we can still catch the light after the season ends
empty inlet
yeah the quest giver in ark will just stay there
willow sage
Wow really, didn't know that
blazing sail
Would be cool if down the line more changes were added
oak forge
Does anyone know what the traveling spirit that’s coming in May will look like?
empty inlet
no one knows
minor robin
beta has no clue what future travelling spirits are, ever. we get them the same time as live does, if at all
there was a period when ts showed up for live, but not for beta. but lately it has been showing up for both.
prisma quiver
Did the gratitude yoga spirit come twice in beta?
icy falcon
yeah it appeared for like a day after fox lady, and then a second time coinciding with live
still thorn
How can I get this game beta version?
empty inlet
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empty river
nope, no confirmed dates as of yet
pulsar edge
My guess is june first because pride month
blazing sail
That would make sense but doesn’t leave much more time for testing
copper wedge
@waxen python whats that
crisp plinth
Days of rainbow is an event that has only been tested in beta so far
waxen python
^^
copper wedge
Btw how do you join beta ?😅
gilded parrotBOT
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copper wedge
Interesting
stoic vector
could i still get the beta cape if i joined the beta now or was it only the pre-lauch beta?
crisp plinth
!betareward
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The Beta Cape was a one-time reward for the testing period prior to the iOS global launch. A future reward is not planned.
stoic vector
okay ty
potent hemlock
I’m suspecting that the Days of Rainbow event will launch in June for the Pride Month
🏳️🌈
quick oriole
We’ve yet to see any other parts of the event. So far it was only 2 rainbow candle quests tested for 2 days, and the devs have stopped testing it for now. Also yes it’s most likely coming in June, however it probably won’t be explicitly stated to be for pride month. We’ll still have a rainbow event in June though 🌈 
exotic gorge
Me 🤩
limpid cipher
i was playing the regular game and once saw a giant sky kid
like not just tall
really large
is this a beta thing that spilled over somehow
i've only seen it once
it was a player character
empty river
if it was in the live version, you saw a hacker
glass coyote
Will there be shops in the ark?
worn field
we don't know anything about that
if you've heard there will be, that's either speculation or illegitimately obtained info
glass coyote
I have a picture
worn field
please do not discuss hacking sky, including modifying game data. it's against the #rules
limpid cipher
it was like being visited by an evangelion
glass coyote
@worn fieldOK
viscid mist
Are there only two items in the beta store?
worn field
i believe so
the starter pack and the season pass
regular candle packs aren't available in beta, so that testers don't get themselves infinite candles instead of actually going through levels
hollow compass
and the Founder's cape in ||the office||
prisma quiver
if it was in the live version, you saw a hacker
@empty river do we have it in beta?
empty river
We have santa
prisma quiver
Is it legal or illegal
empty river
Unless an update fixed the player already, haven’t seen them in a while T-T
It was a player who was bugged with an update
exotic gorge
Little over an hour left so excited for beta update to test
sly current
... so has there been anything about how the last part of the season is gonna be handled?
We have.. about an hour left before the timer goes off.
I dunno if I missed anything.
worn field
you haven't missed anything
uneven venture
is new season coming today on beta ?
pallid badger
No. New season won’t come out on beta until the current season finishes in live. That’s been the usual pattern for previous seasons.
vale shale
i think enchantment was out in beta a week before rhythm ended in live
hollow compass
it depends on when the season is ready to be tested and perhaps also if there are many new features in the new season
currently, there is some US holiday weekend, though
uneven venture
so there’s no season released today ?
hollow compass
no
exotic gorge
Would be a perfect day to release since US is on holiday today
hollow compass
why?
don't you think TGC deserves to be off too?
but mainly, because we've never had seasons back to back in beta
exotic gorge
Don’t think they ever are truly off I’m sure someone is reading chat secretly right now 🤩 sorry I’m just excited for the arc truly an amazing seasonal
kindred fossil
new seasons are usually tested in beta after theyve concluded in live, maybe a week or two after it concludes, rhythm was the only exception
vale shale
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warmth in times of cold
there's still an adventure pass preorder option
wait you can buy as many passes as you want
unlimited seasonal candles
30 seasonal candles for each pass you 'buy'
random gull
So the seasonal quest giver is gone and I'm getting my seasonal candles converted to regular candles. What happened to the last light quest ?!?!?!?!??!?
vale shale
my friend just collected the orange light for me but i can't see it? on android
willow sage
we can do the light quest
random gull
But the quest giver is gone
vale shale
^ at the ark
random gull
Today was still supposed to be part of the season though. We can't view the season completion if the constellation is gone
The whole reason I stayed up until 3 am was to test the last thing we needed to test because I had one day to test it.
proud coral
Has anyone been able to finish the new light mission in the ark? It says there are server issues for me when I try
tired relic
the quest giver isnt even showing up at home for me
proud coral
It should be at the ark still! They’re there for me
proud coral
The light was collectable but there’s a server error when I try to return the light 👀
dim tapir
A lot of people are getting server errors
light valve
Unable to submit Orange Light? Does this mean I can't watch the graduation animation?
tired relic
is it possible its not out yet? 👀
light valve
I have been looking forward to it for a long time, but now I can't watch it?
fair current
also final animation is gone too
vale shale
well
hidden quarry
epic
proud coral
What a sad end to the season haha! Although if it’s done on purpose so no one can spoil I’m okay with that 
visual vigil
I was thinking exactly that
light valve
So now that the season is over, we can't watch the graduation animation, right?
willow sage
i can't return it either ;3
prisma quiver
Lol
crisp trench
Where is the orange light supposed to be ? 🤔
hidden quarry
broken bridges!
plain swallow
anyone getting issues with doing the orange light?
quick oriole
Rua yes, the end-of-season cutscene is tied to finishing the ark quests, but the last light quest became available right as the season ended in beta. Even if the light quest was working properly we still wouldn’t be able to see the end cutscene, probably to avoid spoilers
light valve
Well, I guess I can only watch the graduation animation in the official, thank you.
prisma quiver
Hmm?
vapid drum
Server issues 😭
astral surge
actually, tgc is off today. it's a US holiday
fair current
yup
plain swallow
yessir
fair current
unless we can contact them and make a hotfix
astral surge
so they probabky wont be fixing bugs today unless it's dire
final lance
also they workin from home
fair current
or we can only get them tomorrow or later then that
nova thunder
adventure pass is still available to be bought and I've seen two ppl going ham on it lmao
plain swallow
i have a guess they don’t want us to see the orange light tho so no spoilers
hasty vessel
I’m so upset, that whole journey just for a server error
The light was so high as well!
dry pivot
this is beta
analog citrus
im soooo glad i stayed up late for this
final lance
wait aa sorry wrong channel lol
empty inlet
good night everyone
dry pivot
gnight
hasty vessel
Goof night!
final lance
good nite
exotic gorge
Well I’m glad we all tested it and found this server error good job everyone
hasty vessel
LOL
minor robin
Oh well, we will see it eventually. Hope no one from Tgc decides to work on Monday
quick oriole
I think they would’ve told us if they didn’t intend for the changes of the last light to be tested in beta, as it’d be very misleading otherwise. This is probably just a very badly timed glitch or something
exotic gorge
Someone just need to reboot server that’s all quick trip to the office will fix it
exotic gorge
Oh
dry pivot
no one needs to make a quick trip to the office in the middle of the night during holidays
for beta
empty inlet
tgc has been working from home for weeks
but still
it’s the middle of their holiday
proud coral
Is it a holiday in the us? 🤔
empty inlet
yep
quick oriole
Memorial Day
proud coral
Ah! I see 
kindred fossil
yeah it can wait
hidden quarry
yee we vibing 
proud coral
It’s no big deal to me 😂 its just probably going to update while I’m at work tomorrow which is sad but ok !
visual vigil
I don't see a problem since it's on beta server if it's was on live I was going crazy
lavish zinc
full rock
final lance
well... it's suppose to be beta test not sneek peek
vapid drum
This was a complete letdown 🤣
hidden quarry
ehh im understanding of it
hasty vessel
Right, some of us were just eager to find out what the last light did that’s all. It can definitely wait until the team are back at work :)
lunar zealot
Last light? Gone
full rock
well... lets wait
lunar zealot
Hehe yeah. got to catching it before server errors trying to view it
hasty vessel
Beta and sneak peak go hand in hand though...
crisp trench
At least this time it will have been tested in Beta ! So let's hope live runs smoothly unlike the previous live updates hehe.
hidden quarry
yea, thank god this happened here, not live
i couldnt imagine the state of the server then
full rock
kindred fossil
on the downside, the pass in the shop is broken
fair current
yup
nova thunder
it totally is
fair current
u can buy a ton of passes
dry pivot
that's kinda more serious problem
random gull
Reasons why we beta test
kindred fossil
the light appears after awhile
crisp trench
Oh ?
kindred fossil
just camp up in the trees and you'll see it
hasty vessel
Maybe the find the light quests are still attached to the season (even though they’re not meant to be) and because the season ended the light quest is redundant for now
dry pivot
if testers could buy candles from shop they would not test...
crisp trench
Yeah I hope poeple in live will not have to buy the pass a second time 🤣
dry pivot
they won't
hidden quarry
the light is pretty high up in the trees
full rock
anyway, all i can do now is report and wait
hollow compass
"server error"
what a let down
hasty vessel
I only had 5 wing i looked up at it like
full rock
cri
dry pivot
@hasty vessel maybe, it's the first time they did this kind quests which should last even after the season. it definitely needed testing
hollow compass
you don't need to fly that high, just wait for the light to come down a bit and use the platforms
vale shale
there's only been 1 bug report so far, are people posting about what's happened in #beta-feedback ?
dry pivot
you can also stop the rain to make the catching easier
I hope not, it's supposed to be reported as a bug
dry pivot
but i am discussing it here instead of reporting it
vale shale
it would be really nice if the bug reporting process got simplified
or made less tedious somehow
dry pivot
they need that much info
hasty vessel
It will probably be a quick fix anyway, unless they want it to be a surprise until next week for everyone
prisma quiver
Lol hope we can keep the seasonal candles
hasty vessel
I wonder if the past find the light quests work or not
Lol I’ve been spamming that buy button 😄
silent lily
Did the orange light came today?????