beta-discussion

[quick oriole]

No it’s something else

[restive glen]

Ah i see

[quick oriole]

Just scroll up far enough and you can read it

[restive glen]

Okay

[blazing sail]

Oh man i miss double candles

I don’t even need them but it was just so much more satisfying when the meter filled up fast

[spark lance]

Hey guys I'm not in beta.... But i have a question

Are those new spirits of season of enchantment carries any instruments with them?

[worn field]

there are no new instruments in this season

[spark lance]

Ty for the information @worn field

[rapid salmon]

I have a question, If i get into the beta program when the next time it opens up, do I use my previous save games?

[worn field]

no

!betalive

[gilded parrot]

Beta and Live versions of Sky are completely separate apps. Progress/purchases in one have no effect on progress/purchases in another.

[rapid salmon]

Awh sad

[feral anvil]

Sorry can anyone help me to find whether the dev team or bot notice said beta contents about new season or new items should keep close in beta channel?

[kindred fossil]

!omgomghaveyouseenthe

[gilded parrot]

Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.

[feral anvil]

Thanks lot dark!!!!

[atomic trail]

!betaspoilers

[gilded parrot]

Content from the beta is considered a spoiler and shouldn’t be posted in this channel. To ask or post about it, scroll down to the beta-related channels like #beta-discussion and #beta-screenshots-videos. Thank you!

[feral anvil]

Someone told as as Sky beta is not a close beta, so contents leak out from beta to live discussion is consider to be normal

[worn field]

it also states in #rules that beta content needs to stay in beta

keeping Beta content in the appropriate Beta channels

[kindred fossil]

hey skybot, the forgotten ark

[gilded parrot]

The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. Please don't share spoilers about this area outside beta channels until the season begins.

[feral anvil]

Thanks Tea

[kindred fossil]

three commands for beta spoilers lul

[atomic trail]

no problem
What that "someone" is saying is correct, but consideration for other players needed.

[rain token]

@vapid briar I’ve managed to fix it. Took the plunge and deleted and reinstalled TestFlight. All good now

[worn field]

by the way, MoonageDaydream, there's no need to ping Ktjn unless specifically instructed to do so or someone is doing something inappropriate that got past the filters and there are no other mods around.

[blazing sail]

Haha so there’s no ending cutscene yet and now I’m gonna have to see a blinking red dot forever

[hollow compass]

How did you manage to complete the season already? 👀

[blazing sail]

I bought rhythm seasonal hearts in Eden 🙃

I didn’t complete the season. Still have two spirits to work on

[hollow compass]

Oh. I never tried that glitch.

[blazing sail]

I went for the traveling spirit wing buffs and the seasonal hearts were just a bonus

I had just enough candles on me to buy 3

[full rock]

Is the travelling spirit will come in beta?

[worn field]

i believe so

[urban ember]

How can I join Beta?

[gilded parrot]

The iOS and Android betas are full at the moment, @urban ember. To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the in #rules to be notified of important updates.

[random gull]

it's a secret easter egg type area of the game. you can enter with a founders or beta cape or by holding the hand of someone wearing one. also please spoiler tag the name of the area if you discuss it ^^

[slender sandal]

opps

what do you do in there?

[toxic marten]

How much will the traveling spirit cost?

[hollow compass]

Um, isn’t something missing in the convo above?

[worn field]

possibly the message TrebleMaika was referring to got deleted

Pipedream, we don't know how much the traveling spirit will cost

[random gull]

yeah someone mentioned ||office|| so maybe when I told them to spoiler tag they deleted it ^^

[empty inlet]

beta rule #1, no spoiler

[worn field]

||first rule of beta is don't talk about beta||

[hollow compass]

[spark lance]

||first rule of beta is don't talk about beta||
I'm confused :v

[regal thorn]

so the 2017 devices get low quality, right? or i am wrong

[worn field]

it would depend on their hardware, i'd imagine

[radiant apex]

Oi alguém fala português?

[random gull]

sorry the server is English only.

[radiant apex]

Hmm that's ok

[random gull]

I do know there are Portugese speaking players on sky. I have a few friends who speak it

[radiant apex]

I know something in English

Where I see about bugs

[random gull]

could you elaborate?

[radiant apex]

where can i talk about bugs

Heheheh I used the translate

[random gull]

ah ok. Are you on an android or apple device?

[radiant apex]

Android

[random gull]

and are you using the beta version of sky?

[radiant apex]

Where I see

[crisp plinth]

The icon of the beta app looks different than the live app. A pinned message in #beta-discussion-android shows the difference

[random gull]

I was able to help Rod via DM 🙂

[regal thorn]

it would depend on their hardware, i'd imagine
@worn field still, playing sky on samsung galaxy s8 i can play in low quality only (cant change the graphic), but according to hardware information, theres a octa-core 64 bit, which is it a good ap i guess-

[vapid briar]

It depends on which version is your Galaxy s8, there are two versions with significantly different hardware.

[frosty agate]

How is it that I see so many people in Live using emotes from the season that is not released yet?

Asking here, since I know these emotes from playing beta.

[sand dawn]

@frosty agate only playfight lvl1 is already available

[frosty agate]

What about Zzz emote?

[sand dawn]

Shouldn’t be available yet.. 😮

[frosty agate]

I see players use it all the time in Live, hmm... I thought maybe those are devs, but can’t be that many...

[empty river]

you might be seeing play dead lvl 4, which has zzz effects

[sand dawn]

Ah, this could be, yes

[frosty agate]

Okay, then false alarm I guess 😂

Sorry for stirring the waters...

[empty river]

haha it's ok

[south vault]

does anyone know what the ultimate gift for the enchantment season is?

thank you!

[hollow compass]

Earrings maybe?

[hollow berry]

Can someone take me to the forgotten ark ? , dm

[hollow compass]

If you’re in beta you can go there yourself.

And if you’re in Live you can’t ask people in beta to take you there anyway.

[hollow berry]

Ah

Alright

Thnx for the info

[chilly wigeon]

Where are the candles today

[spark lance]

[spark lance]

do you guys know if there's a candle run map for the new area in wasteland :3?

[gilded parrot]

Please @spark lance, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[mint acorn]

skybot, this is the beta chat you dummy

[empty inlet]

there there, be nice

[mint acorn]

alright, since i cant talk about the new area in live chat

[gilded parrot]

Please @mint acorn, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[mint acorn]

you guys know about that bug where the new area is accessible in live

[gilded parrot]

Please @mint acorn, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[mint acorn]

new area

[gilded parrot]

Please @mint acorn, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[empty inlet]

bruh matching words increased

tgc is definitely knowing about it but i don't think they're going to fix it

[mint acorn]

maybe it was intentional? hmmm

[empty inlet]

no it's not intended

but it's not such a big deal that they need to focus on a fix

[mint acorn]

ah, okay

[chilly wigeon]

And it's gonna be out soon anyway

So there would be no reason to

[spark lance]

New area

[gilded parrot]

Please @spark lance, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[spark lance]

Lol.

New stuff

New animal

New Spirit

New future

:/

[minor robin]

even tho this channel is quieter than others... please don’t spam in here to trigger skybot

[west musk]

Does it says something in the censured lines?

I’m curious

[empty river]

nothing serious

[west musk]

Maybe it threatens people who do spoilers In secret

Like I’m gonna burn you house

[empty river]

maybe so, or maybe not

[minor robin]

nah, skybot isn’t that mean, just asks that those types of spoilers not be mentioned at all outside beta, not even in spoiler boxes

[west musk]

Just kidding I love sky bot, nice guy

[thorny ridge]

Hmmmmm has the Nature cape arrived in live? If so when? Earth day? I heard it’ll be planting trees. It’s like the old green from beta.

[worn field]

no news on when it will arrive yet

[lunar zealot]

The cape will be available for purchase from the 22nd to the 27th according to the live patch notes

[empty river]

ah I don't see it

[worn field]

oh, that date got redacted from the patch notes

[empty river]

mhm

[mint acorn]

anyone know the price?

[worn field]

it used to say 22nd to 27th but not anymore

we don't know the price

[mint acorn]

probably not cheap

[empty river]

in beta it was what? 5? 6? usd

I don't remember exactly

[worn field]

5 i think

Ktjn did say this about the cape though, so it'll probably be 5 usd...

there are ZERO plans to change the price of this item.

[thorny ridge]

Hi remember King he gives the crown

I miss him so much

[lusty light]

The king was never in the game and there’s no crown

[kindred fossil]

there is no easter bunny
there is no tooth fairy
... and there is no eden crown

[worn field]

but we know that santa is real

[tough tapir]

Tell me what is NA?

[unreal wasp]

New Area

[gilded parrot]

Please @unreal wasp, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[tough tapir]

Oh

[unreal wasp]

That’s why we can’t say NA because of sky bot

[worn field]

yes.

please do follow the bot's instructions

[orchid nexus]

Skybot says that because of mods and players who don't want spoilers here

[worn field]

and don't avoid skybot seeing you talking about it by saying NA

[tough tapir]

But there is a spoiler warning

[unreal wasp]

NA is not out on beta?

[orchid nexus]

we'll all share the excitement when the season starts tho!

[empty river]

spoilers here?

[tough tapir]

Yeah. Out on beta

[worn field]

spoilers here are allowed, never outside beta channels

[tough tapir]

There are videos on YouTube

[orchid nexus]

you can talk about it in beta channels

[tough tapir]

My message here was deleted tho

[orchid nexus]

you can spoil yourself on youtube and in beta channels if you want

[empty river]

and this is a beta channel so talk about it all you want lol

[tough tapir]

THE FORGOTTEN ARC

[worn field]

we can't control what happens on youtube but this is the official tgc discord server

[unreal wasp]

I was just spoiled in live version so might as well be in beta

[tough tapir]

that felt good

[orchid nexus]

with a k

ark

[unreal wasp]

I’m gonna say a spoiler now

[tough tapir]

Go for it

[unreal wasp]

Leave if you don’t wanna be spoiler

The crabs here

Are huGE

[orchid nexus]

so, yes, skybot needlessly tags people in the beta channels. that's ... because I'm lazy? 😄

[tough tapir]

Nooice

Looking forward to it

[empty river]

it's a good reminder it's ok

[worn field]

imagine a lazy alex

the server would instantly collapse

[unreal wasp]

Idk how to get back to this area so I’m gonna stay here and invite my friends 😳

[orchid nexus]

well... I could write some new code to make it easier to exclude channels from responses like that

[vapid drum]

Even more work Alex 😂

[orchid nexus]

there's not much advantage to getting in early tho. I mean there are a couple stars and some plants...

[tough tapir]

@orchid nexus since when are you playing?

[orchid nexus]

since Jan 2018

[worn field]

old skykid

[tough tapir]

Wow

[vapid drum]

I havent even been to the new area since the nodes are locked

[gilded parrot]

Please @vapid drum, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[orchid nexus]

the game has changed a LOT in that time

[spark lance]

ya i warped to my friend there only bonus was i got the 9th wing

[unreal wasp]

Stars don’t go into ur wedges tho

[vapid drum]

😑bot

[orchid nexus]

omg rob spoilers!!!

[worn field]

smh

[vapid drum]

Ill keep quiet , night guys 😊

[unreal wasp]

It says spirit comes in 4 days

[tough tapir]

lol

[unreal wasp]

Does that mean uh

Season comes out in 4 days

[orchid nexus]

I should add a second bot in this channel that apologizes for the redundant spoiler warning

[worn field]

the "4 days" is an estimate

pfffffff

[unreal wasp]

Ah

[spark lance]

@orchid nexus absolutly

[unreal wasp]

😭

[orchid nexus]

it might mean that or might not? I think ktjn might have said the countdown was accidental

[worn field]

Ktjn did say it was an estimate

[spark lance]

dang it

[unreal wasp]

:(

[worn field]

here's where if you're intrested https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/697221501799104533
also here https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/697212189370744873

[blazing sail]

What’s NA besides North America?

[unreal wasp]

I haven’t seen any of the cosmetics tho

[tough tapir]

But the game itself wouldn’t give out fake info right?

[orchid nexus]

Nordic Archery

[spark lance]

hahah

[unreal wasp]

Figure it out

[tough tapir]

Northern Australia?

[orchid nexus]

Not Available

[unreal wasp]

Tired of bot yelling at me

[worn field]

not alex

[blazing sail]

Norgotten Ark

[tough tapir]

Hahaha

[orchid nexus]

ok, this is a joke/notjoke but call it "the forgotten snark" in beta channels and botty will ignore you

[unreal wasp]

Nuclear Actors 😳

[tough tapir]

Or just replace the ark with arc

[gilded parrot]

Please @tough tapir, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[orchid nexus]

lol

[tough tapir]

Oh so no

[spark lance]

arc

yes

[empty river]

the irony

[tough tapir]

Yes

[orchid nexus]

you said t h e a r k

[tough tapir]

Works

[spark lance]

arc instead works

[tough tapir]

My theory is ok

[empty river]

they said the ark

[gilded parrot]

Please @empty river, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[lusty light]

Spoiler police is coming for you now

[tough tapir]

Hahaha

[empty river]

:<

[orchid nexus]

[unreal wasp]

Bot needs reading glasses confirmed

[spark lance]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-11908780

[blazing sail]

N E W A R E A?

[empty river]

||⛵ ||

[unreal wasp]

YOU SAID THE WORD WITHOUT GETTING BOTTED

[blazing sail]

Yes I’m still working out what NA is lol

[worn field]

at least skybot doesn't get triggered when they say NA or they'd explode

[spark lance]

noah's ark

yes

[empty river]

wat

[unreal wasp]

Makes sense

Noah’s Ark is about boats and

New season has boats 😳

[tough tapir]

Dank

Never thought about it that way

True

[unreal wasp]

I’ll refer to it as Noah’s Ark now

[tough tapir]

Bot arrest him

[empty river]

u know what, what if they just flag every type of boat ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unreal wasp]

😳

[worn field]

forgotten canoe

[spark lance]

forgotten outrigger

[tough tapir]

Boats. Boats. Boats

[orchid nexus]

the unremembered vessel

[empty river]

water car

[orchid nexus]

easier to type and rolls off the tongue

[lunar zealot]

Forgotten boat

[orchid nexus]

lore bote

[empty river]

is big boat flagged?

big boat is not flagged

[tough tapir]

Character arc?

[worn field]

stone duck

[orchid nexus]

das boot

[mint acorn]

no

please no

[tough tapir]

You should not be aware lol

[worn field]

shipwreck 2: electric boogaloo

[empty river]

hold on i just thought of something

[gilded parrot]

Please @empty river, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

new area

summoned by @empty river

[empty river]

PFFFF

[tough tapir]

Lol

[worn field]

w h a t

did you say something and delete your message

oh wait i see

[empty river]

it's right there lol

[worn field]

it blended in with skybot's message. i just skimmed it

[visual temple]

So.... does anyone know if there is more to the cave with the three lights on the boat, in the first area?

[spark lance]

how did that even get flaged

[austere merlin]

Ark

[worn field]

Theta, not really tbh, but i think some people have ideas

[austere merlin]

“Ark” isn’t a trigger word?

Surprising

[lusty light]

That could mean anything

[empty river]

i mean

"hey guys have you seen the ark for the next season?"

[gilded parrot]

Please @empty river, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[empty river]

WELL THEN

[visual temple]

Thanks Joshur

[lusty light]

[worn field]

skybot is too powerful

[empty river]

bot is too smart

[worn field]

ark

ark season

[austere merlin]

New season

[worn field]

next season

the ark

[gilded parrot]

Please @worn field, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[lusty light]

Seasons existing isn’t a spoiler

[worn field]

or is it 🧠

[lusty light]

[lunar zealot]

How many ark’s can an ark ark?

Nvm

[worn field]

skybot won't fall for your wily tricks

[empty river]

i mean i find it pretty impossible to spoil it without using "the"

otherwise the lore channel will have a hard time talking about the one in the concept arts

[elder musk]

Skybot is picking on Skyboat ☺️

[amber hound]

what do you guys think the purple element is?

and hi

[edgy beacon]

the ark

[gilded parrot]

Please @edgy beacon, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[edgy beacon]

hehe

[amber hound]

skybot majority here know about it

[edgy beacon]

tru

[worn field]

skybot's just trolling

[amber hound]

stinky trollbot

[crisp plinth]

skybot is just a lil confused right now

[amber hound]

a lot confused

[edgy beacon]

@crisp plinth did you draw that?

Ur pfp i mean

[orchid nexus]

skybot's not confused, skybot is only doing what it's told to do. sorry again, beta friends! There were just so many spoilers rushing into the general chat and screenshots that I had to get the bot warning working quickly, otherwise I would have excluded the beta channels. Maybe next season skybot will be smart enough to do it the right way

[worn field]

it's really not a problem hehe, i'm really grateful

[amber hound]

is ok. skybot cool bot

[worn field]

i got so nervous about all the people talking about it in general channels

[crisp plinth]

No, my pfp was drawn by @/AmberNougats#9490

[chilly wigeon]

I always feel weird telling people that stuff is spoilers

Probably because it would have been bad in a different server I was in

[orchid nexus]

everyone's hype! that's good! everyone spoiled?! that's sad!

[amber hound]

i feel bad for stuff i accidentally spoiled.. i couldnt contain my excitement

[chilly wigeon]

I just want the season to go live soon so I can talk about it more

[amber hound]

yes i can not wait to talk about it... i am over flowing with theories and other stuff

[orchid nexus]

I even think the minor spoilers like a shot of the /ark in the distance will make the excitement even bigger for people who haven't seen the progression of unlocking the area

[crisp plinth]

i'm not very into lore i just want crab emote

[orchid nexus]

haha

[slim kayak]

I want sneep

[amber hound]

i like these silly emotes

[orchid nexus]

the emotes really are the prize this season, even though I love the new cosmetics

[worn field]

the emotes are great this season

[amber hound]

i want that i guess it would literally be called “silly” or “crazy” emote so maybe i can scare a moth away

[worn field]

the sneep emote is probably my new favourite

[amber hound]

but definitely the next season that will come i’m not going to spoil it for myself. only reason why i’m glad i spoiled this season for myself is to know where the colored lights locations are

[vapid drum]

Just went to the titanic , but i thought we only had 2 more nodes to unlock , but theres 3???

Was one added or was i just to lazy to scroll up

[amber hound]

have no clue

[worn field]

that 3rd node is probably a heart haha

[vapid drum]

Nooooooooooo😱

Btw , its not a side node

[worn field]

it looks like it'll be another spell because it's vertical but i'm 99% sure it's a heart

it doesn't even have an exclamation mark

or a question mark

[vapid drum]

None of them has

[worn field]

it's just a regular node, like the other heart side nodes

the spell/quest nodes are question marks or exclamation marks

or they have been every time i've looked

[vapid drum]

Let me snap it , just a sec

7 nodes vertical the next one is the ‘?’ Mark

Then there are 2 more

[worn field]

hmmmmm

based on that pic it could be another spell then

[vapid drum]

You cant see what it is till the ‘?’ Node is unlocked

The wait is too long 😭

[worn field]

my bet's still on only 6 spells, but i'm not so certain now

[amber hound]

well seems that someday we all should figure it out

[orchid nexus]

I'm glad there are a few unspoiled things even for beta players

[worn field]

it'll be nice to have some surprises in store, yeah

[vapid drum]

It already changed since the first update , there was a spell first in the beginning of the tree

[worn field]

tree?

oh spirit tree

[vapid drum]

Just posted a pic of the first version

[worn field]

idk, i think that spell was always there

oh is the spell not there anymore

[vapid drum]

@lusty light yes, so there might be 3 quests left

[worn field]

i keep getting confused with blessing spells and quest spells kjbhssdfa

[lusty light]

It might be the final cutscene

[worn field]

oh yeah

[vapid drum]

Yup , the spell is gone , it changed to a ‘!’ Node

[worn field]

that'd be nice

to have it not locked behind ultimate gifts anymore

[vapid drum]

The excitement 😍

[lusty light]

They do just end up posting the cutscene on social media anyway

[worn field]

yeah

[vapid drum]

Maybe a good idea to test that a few days before going into live

Or just to the shepherds

[lusty light]

Like me or in game shepherds fjskskks

[worn field]

hhhh

[vapid drum]

Btw, what’s to test about the final scene 🤷‍♂️

[worn field]

you never know what's gonna break in beta

[vapid drum]

Lol, enough 😂

[lusty light]

What if everyone is tposing

[worn field]

disaster

[empty river]

or a blessing

[lusty light]

What if they accidentally kept in the in progress version of the cutscene

[worn field]

blursed

[lusty light]

Like the forest elder cutscene

[empty river]

did she use to tpose

[worn field]

is that where skymii got that forest elder tpose thing

[lusty light]

The animation wasn’t complete and she was low poly

[empty river]

oh that sounds glorious

[lusty light]

And the audio was out of sync

[worn field]

i wish i could have seen it

[vapid drum]

I put in a bug report where the spirit went through the gate to forest but just walked out the other side of the gate, it was never fixed 😂

[blazing sail]

Unlocking the ultimate gifts at this point gives you the flag in the center and a blinking red dot but no way to get rid of it

[worn field]

i'll never get over this placeholder sound that got accidentally left in a beta build ages and ages ago
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/636352000509870110

[blazing sail]

So it seems the cosmetics still give you the cutscene but they haven’t added it yet. Or they need to fix the blinking red light

[vapid drum]

Whahahahaha , that sound , was that for real 🤣

It’s a doggy toy squeezy

[worn field]

imagine that happening in the season finale cutscene

with the spirits tposing of course

[vapid drum]

Please no 😂

[empty river]

i didnt even have to click on the link to know what it was wheeeeze

[minor robin]

Did Oreo break into the recording booth with a squeaky toy?

[terse swift]

HAAAH

[vagrant silo]

Hi

Does someone know how to get to beta?

Pls help

Pls

[unreal wasp]

Me took my best friends to the area and I had so much fun man

Exploring with them and stuff

👏👌

[worn field]

!betafaq @vagrant silo

[gilded parrot]

To join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-announcements! Give yourself the beta role here by tapping the in #rules to be notified of important updates.
This command is for informational purposes only and not a replacement for beta slot alerts.

[vagrant silo]

Cool

[lusty light]

Guys

No one has used !betafaq to try and get into beta

[vagrant silo]

Hi

[lusty light]

We did it boys

[vagrant silo]

......ok

I’m new so.....

Ok

[lusty light]

Oh I’m not referring to you

[vagrant silo]

Oh

[lusty light]

Just in general, people would spam the command seeing if the text would change even though it’s stated it won’t

And it hasn’t happened in weeks

We did it

[vagrant silo]

OHHHHHHH

Ok

[worn field]

we finally made it

[vapid briar]

everyone went over to live and found out their device is incompatible

[spark lance]

When is beta open again?

[worn field]

beta opens when TGC needs more testers

[quick oriole]

Whenever the devs feel they need to open it again

[worn field]

their testing needs are currently being met, so it's currently closed

[spark lance]

Okay!

[brave saddle]

ehm how do u get into ark without beta

[gilded parrot]

Please @brave saddle, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[brave saddle]

aight thats what i thought but just checking

so if i just say ark with no context, do i summon skybot?

i guess not

[lusty light]

Skybot doesn’t care if u are in the beta channels

It’s bc Alex is lazy

[brave saddle]

lol

so i assume you still cant tell me how people are getting in?

[lusty light]

I know but I won’t say

That would encourage a lot of people

[blazing sail]

Umm live is getting stuff before beta now?

[worn field]

no.

[blazing sail]

Live FA has more spawn points than beta

[lusty light]

Live and beta are never on the same build

[worn field]

it's from an older build than beta has, iirc

[lusty light]

Whatever we see and be fixed and added to live without us needing to test

[blazing sail]

Just surprised they’re updating new stuff there before beta

[spark lance]

Oof.

[lusty light]

That’s not really new stuff tho

[spark lance]

New area

[gilded parrot]

Please @spark lance, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[lusty light]

Fixing a small thing that doesn’t need to be tested

[spark lance]

SHUSH @gilded parrot

[worn field]

besides, live is 10 builds behind beta right now, nothing significant is happening there before beta

also, now i think about it, i don't think it counts as something coming to live before beta if it's only relevant to an area that's not meant to be accessible yet

[blazing sail]

My point is that they didn’t test it in beta first

[brave saddle]

yup

no spirits

ark only has two lights, the mushrooms, the plants, and the questgiver with the countdown

[blazing sail]

And the mushrooms aren’t even intentional so I’m surprised they made it over

[brave saddle]

lol are they supposed to have something else there, or are they just an easter egg?

or should i say, easter fungus?

[blazing sail]

Ktjn said they had an idea for them but it didn’t work out so they’re not really supposed to be there

[brave saddle]

i like that theyre there. got two candles out of them

with the traveling spirit coming so fast again, i need all the candles i can get

still riding on left-over seasonal and spring event candles but that may not be enough

[dire escarp]

@brave saddle we got the underground ones too, tbh I'm surprised the map files got shipped, but I guess decluttering the differences would have been harder

[brave saddle]

Hmm didnt know there were other mushrooms

They could exist still, but I haven’t found them yet

[dire escarp]

@brave saddle https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618891214527266846/694896660051918928/SKY_20200401_102512_.jpg

It's behind the broken U where the playfight spirit is

[slim kayak]

Ok so.... problem

I tried to warp to a friend who was online

In live

And they were on an older version

And then suddenly I'm in the ark????

[gilded parrot]

Please @slim kayak, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[slim kayak]

Thanks skybot

Is that what's happening to people in live right now?

[random gull]

yeah a lot of live players are super hyped about the new area. so they're warping to friends who are already there and leaving their return shrine checkpoint there

[gilded parrot]

Please @random gull, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[random gull]

XD the ever vigilant skybot! doin a good job

anyways I suspect the first few people hacked the game and just about everyone who's gotten there has just been teleporting to their friends either purposefully or by accident since then. if the shop countdown is any indication though the new season is Sunday anyways so I think they're just decided to say "no spoilers" at this point rather than try and overhaul something this big

if not Sunday it's sometime in the next 14 days because the official announcement said April

[tough quest]

There have definitely been some people messing with the new season in live. Not just going to the ark

[gilded parrot]

Please @tough quest, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[random gull]

well none of the spirits are active yet as far as I can tell so idk what they're doing besides burning plants

[chilly wigeon]

I think ive seen a video of some people with the seasonal emote

But that is a distent memory now

[random gull]

those might be beta players! beta has had the emotes for a while now

[chilly wigeon]

Mabye

[tough quest]

Someone got seasonal hair somehow. Unfortunately wasnt able to report before they ran off

[random gull]

in live? probably hacked the game not just gotten into that area. you have to buy through the constellation which isn't even up right now even for players who happened upon the area

[brave saddle]

Yeah, I got to the new area because one of my friends had been shown it and she wanted to show me. The extra plants are nice, plus I got two winged lights out of it and also already memorized the tunnel maze and drew up a map for those who are spatially challenged lol 😊

[gilded parrot]

Please @brave saddle, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[spark lance]

Hey

Can i get free the cape? In the next season

[tardy crown]

^ adding onto that I was also wondering what it looks like?

[kindred fossil]

search: has:image in:beta-screenshots-and-vids

[atomic trail]

@spark lance now in beta, there are two capes that you can get without adventure pass.

[tardy crown]

@kindred fossil I see a bunch of screenshots but I'm not exactly sure which one is the free ones?

[kindred fossil]

i dont have beta, dunno which ones are pass-free since items get shuffled around a lot during testing

[tardy crown]

ah okies~ no worries!

[kindred fossil]

just ask in the screenshots channel for current pass-free capes, a beta player can provide screenshots

[tardy crown]

will do!! thank you!

[stable marlin]

[spark lance]

@atomic trail Have you the photo about capes? And how much candle season will spend?

[gloomy copper]

Does anyone know where the traveling spirit is?

[spark lance]

@gloomy copper in the isle of dawn

[atomic trail]

@spark lance did it, #beta-screenshots-videos

[spark lance]

hi beta dudes

does this season have any pants or instruments?

[worn field]

nope

[spark lance]

thats sad

[hollow compass]

@spark lance everything is free in beta

@atomic trail but the AP is free in beta, so everything is basically free

There’s not real point to asking what things cost in beta, since these prices are subject to change before they hit Live. The season isn’t far away. Just be patient and you will find out soon (bruh).

[regal thorn]

if i deleted beta version, then where i can get the link of it?

[atomic trail]

Unless you delete the test flight, you can join beta again
@hollow compass yes, you right

[regal thorn]

Unless you delete the test flight, you can join beta again
@atomic trail where?

in google play?

[worn field]

testflight is an ios thing

[west crescent]

@spark lance first map?

[atomic trail]

ah, sorry I thought iOS

[hollow compass]

@regal thorn i think you can just re-dowload unless you actually opted out of testing all togethe

[obtuse nimbus]

hey boyos anyone knows where the trapped mantas at in the hidden forest?

[hasty knoll]

temple area, far right just before the crying emote in the cave

[uncut jay]

@spark lance Thank you!

[hasty knoll]

but also hai beta players i like asking y’all questions cause y’all been here longer ,
what da heck is the “inbox” tab for ?? like it doesn’t open or anything

[worn field]

The Inbox is a not-yet-implemented feature.

[glass lark]

So

This is the ||Season of Enchantment|| I think.

[crisp plinth]

Yes

[hollow compass]

what is the Season of Enchantment?

[crisp plinth]

I only know boat season

[hollow compass]

[glass lark]

Hey can you take me there @mini?

To the boat?

[hollow compass]

are you in beta?

[glass lark]

Why

I can't access it on my phone

[hollow compass]

why not?

[glass lark]

Cuz the boat is invisible

[hollow compass]

so you are not in beta

[glass lark]

The boat is only available in beta?

[worn field]

the boat is only meant to be accessible in beta

[hollow compass]

the boat is part of the season, which is being tested in beta right now

if you are in beta you can access it yourself

if you are not, nobody in beta can take you there

[glass lark]

I thought they did some accident and released part of the season early

[hollow compass]

nope, sorry

[glass lark]

It's ok, the video that I saw just didn't mention that

[hollow compass]

the area is part of the update for Live for some reason, but it's not accessible yet

[glass lark]

I can wait for like, 3 days

Ty tho

[lusty light]

I just want to say no one who is getting into the ark in live is hacking the game

Exploits are not altering game files to enter an area

[queen helm]

When is this season coming?

[worn field]

we don't know yet

just that it will be soon

[queen helm]

Ooh aight, thank you

[blazing sail]

Who’s spreading a rumor that beta people are getting others into the ark? This is the second time I’ve seen someone claim that.

[gilded parrot]

Please @blazing sail, don't share spoilers about seasonal content outside beta channels until the season begins. ||The new area is not meant to be accessible yet. And we must protect our innocent friends! Don't even talk about it in spoiler tags!!!||

[vapid drum]

This channel is looking more and more like the beta Facebook a while back 😛

[oak forge]

This skybot is annoying

[blazing sail]

Bad skybot

[lusty light]

They’re trying their best

[worn field]

world domination isn't easy

[blazing sail]

Their best isn’t good enough

[lusty light]

They’re just a poor bot listening to Alex’s instructions

[quick oriole]

@blazing sail If you were here earlier this morning someone is going around spreading a rumor that the traveling spirit mask is like an opposite to chibi and will make you tall.

[vapid drum]

Is that true 😍??

[quick oriole]

No

[vapid drum]

😂sorry , couldn’t resist

Has there been any theories yet on the crabby murals in the cave ?

[quick oriole]

There was a small moment right after reset where people were repeatedly asking/posting pics of themselves wearing the mask like “This makes you taller right? Why am I not taller?” and I was just

People came to crabby cove and messed it up so the crabs got mad and yeeted them all away

[vapid drum]

They interrupted the crabs bath

And used up all the water

So the oasis dried out aparantly

[brave saddle]

😮

[hollow compass]

I love how Live players come here demanding beta players take them to the boat. It...I...just...that’s not how any of this works.

[worn field]

i don't blame them for not understanding, but it does get a little tiring to keep explaining

[orchid nexus]

I've corrected the bot's auto-response to not pester beta channels anymore. Sorry for the trouble

[worn field]

thank you for going to the trouble of doing that

[orchid nexus]

And if it's a persistent problem, if lots of live players come here asking for spoilers or asking to be taken somewhere, I can add some new botting. But as always, we can kindly remind them: Beta channels are not here to provide advance knowledge of the game. They are for beta players to discuss their experiences. It's ok for live players to lurk here, but not to beg and plead for spoilers and favors.

[royal elm]

does anyone have a picture of the earth day cape? asking here cause it's technically a spoiler

[orchid nexus]

look in #beta-screenshots-videos

you'll find it

[royal elm]

alright, thanks

hmm

can't find any pictures

sad

[hollow compass]

I posted one earlier. Hang on, I can do it again.

[royal elm]

okay

[orchid nexus]

@royal elm search can be isolated to channels. try in:#beta-screenshots-and-vids earth day

[royal elm]

oh, someone sent me a screenshot

[orchid nexus]

just do that search and jump to the one and only result to see it

Meanwhile, lemme repost:

Beta channels are not here to provide advance knowledge of the game. They are for beta players to discuss their experiences. It's ok for live players to lurk here, but not to beg and plead for spoilers and favors.

[hollow compass]

I happened to be around and could provide a photo quickly.

[royal elm]

yeah ik don't worry

[orchid nexus]

this also works better in:#beta-screenshots-and-vids earth cape

[royal elm]

I asked because I couldn't find it

[orchid nexus]

I told you how to find it 😉

[royal elm]

why isn't there a beta question channel?

[orchid nexus]

but I elaborate not only for your benefit, but for everyone who comes here asking

[empty inlet]

Apple internal forums are not here to provide advance knowledge of the future Apple products. They are for Apple employee to discuss their experiences in work.
same idea

[orchid nexus]

general beta is where a lot of beta questions happen, but again generally for beta players to work out what they're experiencing in the game.

[royal elm]

ah

gotcha

[austere merlin]

Would it help if you made these channels only viewable by actual beta players?

[lusty light]

We don’t want to be exclusive, and there’s no surefire way to check to see if someone is really a beta tester

[austere merlin]

Mm

[orchid nexus]

It might be possible to add a role that takes away beta channel access to those who want to avoid spoilers tho? But even without discord changes, we can try to answer or dodge questions from live players in a nice way. It's only a little while until the season starts, and then the beta channels will be a quiet haven again!

[worn field]

i had an idea that it might be good to have a whole seperate server for beta channels, but it’s probably more trouble than it’s worth. i wouldn’t know though.

[austere merlin]

the beta channels can be a quiet haven again
LOL

Yeah Joshur

[orchid nexus]

I agree joshur, ||that would be more trouble than it's worth||

[hollow compass]

yeah, it was so much trouble keeping the old FB group "clean"
and I don't think it will be feasible to vet everyone who would want to join

besides, it never was that much of a bother before - we just have a lot of new members and they're all eager for info on everything in the game

[royal elm]

I mean, as long as people don't pester you guys I don't see a problem?

[hollow compass]

exactly

as Alex said, there needs to be a mutual respect

[austere merlin]

I mean this community’s going to get larger

Puts a lot of stress on mods

[hollow compass]

in my experience, from when iOS was launched, there will be a huge increase the first month and then it will die down, because not everyone will like the game

[austere merlin]

Mm

[royal elm]

a lot of people play a bit and then lose interest

[orchid nexus]

there will still be periods of growth for the server. the important thing is to kill any arguments with love! We want to protect the live players from needlessly spoiling the excitement of new things, and beta players should feel their contributions are valued

[elfin quest]

So, beta has access to the new season right?

[kindred fossil]

yes, for testing purposes

[elfin quest]

I have a question

[kindred fossil]

ask away

[elfin quest]

And im not sure if its allowed or not so if it isn't please don't be mad

Basically. I was curious if beta knows the prices for the new capes in the season

[kindred fossil]

they do, but i wouldnt rely on those prices, as items get shuffled around a lot

things change during testing, so youd rather wait until the season is live

[elfin quest]

Alright...

[kindred fossil]

its almost there, its soon

[gilded parrot]

who needs mods, skybot to the rescue!

[empty inlet]

when you can become our mod for people skybot

[blazing sail]

Who asked for a mod?

[worn field]

someone mentioned mods ages ago, but skybot seems to have delayed reactions lately. sometimes.

[empty inlet]

it might works as designed tho

[worn field]

may be better this way, less disruptive to conversations

[empty inlet]

different from functional commands, chatting needs t....i...m.....e t....o... ty.......p....e

[vapid briar]

Items prices on beta are currently not accurate.

[empty inlet]

wdym

[worn field]

like, we can't rely on them to predict what their prices will be when the season comes to live.

[empty inlet]

what bout the ZERO-price-change-plans earth cape

[worn field]

that's real-money price

[vapid briar]

i'm talking about seasonal candle prices

[empty inlet]

THAT price igy

[vapid briar]

someone asked a couple messages above about seasonal prices.

[livid ice]

Ohhh

Like a diagram with all prices

Yeah people have been asking that

But since no one knows what the final price will be

[worn field]

the diagram floating around isn't even accurate to current beta prices
let alone live prices

[vapid briar]

Yeah, i just figured I'd clarify that whatever price diagrams are out there are going to be inaccurate.

[livid ice]

I mean I don’t think anyways a lot of people use them? Since they go for the want the most first ?

[worn field]

it'll be really help to be able to tell people that when they come here asking about it

[livid ice]

Oh btw question I haven’t asked or seen anyone ask

Is it gonna be ,weekly spirit ?

Or

All at once ?

[kindred fossil]

all at once

[livid ice]

Oh nice ... well I maybe would have like better one daily like ,one with the light is supposed to have

But all at once isn’t bad

[vapid briar]

We made some adjustments to the live version that may not have been populated to beta.

Spirits are all up front, the light quests are staggered.

[orchid nexus]

beta is beta!!

[worn field]

you only just realised, alex?

[orchid nexus]

everything subject to change until release

[kindred fossil]

well thats what i answered with so im good

[thorny ridge]

Hmmmm

[orchid nexus]

it's always been that way, but needs to be repeated sometimes

[thorny ridge]

I still think about old Eden

[orchid nexus]

you want to lose all your emotes? 😄

[thorny ridge]

I didnt, but I still remember lol

[livid ice]

:0

[austere merlin]

Oof

[thorny ridge]

Dang I remember that wind, phew

[worn field]

sometimes when i tell people it's subject to change, it seems to go in one ear and out the other 😔

[vapid briar]

but alex, the race to get your guide up to be first is very important

[livid ice]

I mean if you kept the progress of the emotes wouldn’t be bad to loose them all and gather them again

Like kept the cosmetics and once you get them again you have the upgrades

[thorny ridge]

Yeah

[livid ice]

Something else to do

I suppose

[thorny ridge]

I always went up the left to get through the doorway

It was faster

[livid ice]

Since you can only see the story once

[orchid nexus]

that's super true ktjn. being first is like... VERY FIRSTY

[dire escarp]

Has anyone else see the updated animation of the shrug seasonal spirit?
Would love to combine it with the cave and ark paintings for juicy lore on what the spirits use the lights for.

[thorny ridge]

Is Ktjn pronounced “kitchen?” I need to know

Ooooo true

[kindred fossil]

kitten

[worn field]

it's pronounced "kitten"

[orchid nexus]

cat-yen

[thorny ridge]

Mk good good

Noice

[vapid briar]

alexwhy

[thorny ridge]

Rip

[orchid nexus]

just to balance things out

[vapid briar]

one more for the whiteboard

[dire escarp]

Kat Jen?
With a achhhhe really Scottish J

[orchid nexus]

but no lies, my internal pronunciation is cat-yen

[kindred fossil]

kit-jinn, like a djinn

[thorny ridge]

I sound mentally challenged when I say it like that, Maelstrom

[austere merlin]

I just say “kay Jin”

[orchid nexus]

local person ran for office, name of "Cattoujian" or something like that. similar name but with vowels

[torn gust]

maelstrom i can hear that in my scottish friends voice

[worn field]

"cartesian"

[vapid briar]

[dire escarp]

@torn gust I do that and roll my Rs like the Welsh too

[thorny ridge]

I’m too EU to pronounce it that way my 🇳🇴 accent is stronger than my Scottish

[orchid nexus]

ah yes, good old DesKartjn

[kindred fossil]

"How Do You Pronounce Ktjn" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

[austere merlin]

LOL

[torn gust]

inb4 next season is all about how to pronounce ktjn

[thorny ridge]

You’re welcome

[dire escarp]

Season of Enunciation

[thorny ridge]

Oh no

[vapid briar]

furiously scribbling new pronunciations on the whiteboard

[orchid nexus]

haven't you heard Pines? next season is season of Skybot

[thorny ridge]

Season of Ktjn

[orchid nexus]

Ktjn season can wait

[vapid briar]

gods no

[torn gust]

sneason of sneep snorp

[austere merlin]

Best season

Season of sneep

[vapid briar]

[thorny ridge]

Season of Sanguis trying to pronounce one of the easiest names to pronounce

[blazing sail]

I still just spell it out in my head as K T J N

[worn field]

little know fact. the war of pronunciation is what made eden explode.
the eden elder/the King insisted it was pronounced "King"

[torn gust]

kay tee jee nen

[dire escarp]

Sneep emote, snorp emote when combined as a social emote makes the sneepsnorp emote

[vapid briar]

i have friends that i've known for over a decade and still spell it out.

[orchid nexus]

KJTN: furiously scribbles KTJN on whiteboard

[blazing sail]

But like if I had to guess what it stands for I would have said something like Katie Jane.

[vapid briar]

it's not that deep, i promise

[thorny ridge]

I literally thought it was kitchen, I am so sorry

[vapid briar]

most people call me kitchen, you're in the majority sanguis

[thorny ridge]

Weird but nice to know I’m not the only one

[dire escarp]

Ugh, reminds me when I was trying to figure out IPA phonetics and getting confused by voiced and unvoiced vowels

[thorny ridge]

Rip but what a spiritual connection

Also a lot of people call me sandgrease

[dire escarp]

BTW phonetics sucks when you're not a linguist, but have been told to get a robot to say stuff in a specific way.

[thorny ridge]

I never thought about that but I am picky about mistakes in grammar. My ocd will not let me fail

Or anyone else...

[dire escarp]

Trouble is most people mistake spelling for grammar

[thorny ridge]

True

[orchid nexus]

little known fact: grammar is actually a contraction from the old english phrase

[dire escarp]

Like the "their there they're" homonym problems aren't truly a grammatical error

[orchid nexus]

"graham cracker"

[thorny ridge]

making smores
“Hey bro pass the grammar”
“The what”

[vapid briar]

reminds my of that synonym rolls meme post

[orchid nexus]

no, in old english they said "bruv" not "bro"

[thorny ridge]

Brethren

Yes maelstrom

Hate that joke

[vapid briar]

[orchid nexus]

oof Maelstrom rude grammar jokes right in front of a mod and staff?

[dire escarp]

It's only rude if you get your grammar wrong

[thorny ridge]

No don’t bean them please

[orchid nexus]

it's only suggestive... if you say it at all

[worn field]

does that mean what i think it means because it seems gross

[dire escarp]

Not at all

[vapid briar]

indeed, plz delete

[thorny ridge]

Oh no

[dire escarp]

You help your uncle, who is named Jack

[orchid nexus]

ummm ok, this has been a nice break. lemme just delete a thing and get back on topic

[dire escarp]

Boom its gone

[thorny ridge]

Rip

So what was the ORIGINAL topic

[empty inlet]

Any one use thou in 2020

[orchid nexus]

some of us area adults, but we all have to speak to the whole family here

[thorny ridge]

Kanpai I used it in essays

[orchid nexus]

original topic was... Sky Beta!!

[thorny ridge]

Used

Yes of course

[worn field]

til beta is beta

[empty inlet]

what kind of essay lol (not asking)

[lunar zealot]

Sky beta seasonal prices not going to line up with live.. was it?

[thorny ridge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dire escarp]

Has anyone else see the updated animation of the shrug seasonal spirit?
Would love to combine it with the cave and ark paintings for juicy lore on what the spirits use the lights for.
@dire escarp

Reposting for topic change

[thorny ridge]

Hmmmmm

I’ve been mainly focused on the crab emote, but love the beard from shrug

That has no relation whatsoever sorry

[orchid nexus]

yes em, the permanent assumption in beta should be "prices subject to change." doesn't mean it happens every time. but always a good reminder.

[vapid briar]

yes, that's why I originally slithered out to say; THINGS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE BEFORE COMING TO LIVE SO TAKE BETA GUIDES WITH A GRAIN OF SALT

[lunar zealot]

[empty inlet]

there there, my ears

[orchid nexus]

here, have some salt

[thorny ridge]

Thanks

Still hmmmmming while thinking

[blazing sail]

Is the salt for some wounds?

[empty inlet]

salt for your steak

[thorny ridge]

The wounds on kanpais ears

[orchid nexus]

some can take a grain of salt to go with their beta guides. some can use it for steak. some just want to be salty. I'm not judging, just salting

[thorny ridge]

And woking us

Staying woke

So it’s kitten

Sorry

[blazing sail]

I’m still kinda traumatized by that Pikachu up there

[livid ice]

Same...

[kindred fossil]

its doing that one face

[blazing sail]

It has teeth

[dire escarp]

😂

It was a relevant reaction at the time

[worn field]

unfortunately

[dire escarp]

Why is it always those that are most memorable examples

[vapid briar]

disturbed pikachu is my favourite reaction <_<

[buoyant pawn]

[vapid briar]

enough that if I say pikachu to friends, they know what I mean >_>

[blazing sail]

It’s nightmare fuel

[dire escarp]

Pikachu used shock, its Super Effective

[blazing sail]

So Ktjn.... don’t kill me but are the Valley candles still moving?

<ducks>

[kindred fossil]

quacks

[worn field]

they already moved

i'm pretty sure

[blazing sail]

They’re still the same as previous seasons

[worn field]

i feel like they're slightly different

[minor robin]

they’re different from rhythm at least.

[worn field]

none of them are in juggle tunnel, for one thing

[blazing sail]

The light goes under the ice so I’ve been waiting for them to move the candles under the ice 😬

Well they’re recycled from previous seasons

[worn field]

that would be weird tbh, considering it's underwater

[blazing sail]

That’s what I mean

[minor robin]

t-thank god. juggle tunnel had me stumbling in the dark and banging my knee on rocks/wall/lamps

[blazing sail]

But there’s no actual water under there

[minor robin]

I vastly appreciate the updated tunnel

[worn field]

oh juggle tunnel is much brighter now

so much better

[minor robin]

the lamps being positioned juuust right around the corner had me going

[blazing sail]

I think Vault hasn’t moved yet either

Just surprised if the season is coming in a few days

[round pond]

Well that’s what it says in the game

[worn field]

regardless, if tgc is spending more dev time on other things then i have no problem with that

the estimate in-game is an estimate anyway

season might not start for a while longer

[blazing sail]

Yeah but it’s gonna be chaos with everyone expecting it then

[minor robin]

with android release so recent and now a pretty ambitious season, I wouldn’t mind waiting longer if that means less crunch time and more recharge-weekends for TGC

[round pond]

True

[minor robin]

peeps should learn that they can’t always get what they want... it;s why resize potion is random and never selective

[worn field]

people will be confused if/when the season doesn't come in a few days, but tgc's health and the quality of the season are both more important

[minor robin]

patience/acceptance goes a long way when it comes to enjoying a game and remembering that devs are also humans

[blazing sail]

Right but I don’t think it’s so crazy for people to trust an in-game message to be accurate.

[worn field]

you're right it's not

[minor robin]

ye agreed. I saw that number and my face was like

[worn field]

that's why it'll be so confusing.

[minor robin]

‘you guys... that looks like cronch’

[worn field]

i'll be scared to enter the general channels when that day arrives

[blazing sail]

I’ve been scared to go there for a while now

[minor robin]

tgc if you’re reading this: sneep snorp

[austere merlin]

I mean why even have the estimate there if it’s not confirmed, that just causes confusion like yo said

[vapid briar]

There isn't a lot of value in moving candles for the sake of moving them. it opens the risk of more bugs or candles getting embedded in terrain, so if the dev recycled some candle positions because they still make sense for new content, they're going to stay there.

[dire escarp]

50000 now, that's a lotta chat

[vapid briar]

the beta build right now is the same as the live version, so nothing is really going to change unless it's a backend update.

I can understand it might be boring for a few veterans but it'll be brand spanking new for hundreds of thousands of new players coming it.

[dire escarp]

Haha, confirmed, get those guides recorded!

[worn field]

honestly, even though i'm a 'veteran' the candle locations feel pretty fresh to me

idk how app remembers the old locations

[blazing sail]

I guess I’m just surprised that of all the candles to move...they chose the Forest, even tho they’re not that far from where they were originally

[dire escarp]

I always end up missing one

[vapid briar]

there's a lot that can be changed in the backend, so once again:

ᵍʳᵃᶦⁿ ᵒᶠ ˢᵃˡᵗ

[empty inlet]

i might complain about the lack of game play in this channel later

[vapid briar]

if it's really that upsetting for you, post in #live-feedback when it comes out.

[blazing sail]

I just wanna search for candles under the ice and on the vault debris

[worn field]

you can still search

[dire escarp]

The grain of salt may be a himalayan rock, size of a small mountain

[worn field]

you just won't find any

[vapid briar]

candles in water doesn't make a lot of sense

[blazing sail]

But it’s not water

It’s two layers of ice

[dire escarp]

Maybe we need belljars

[vapid briar]

yes...it is

[worn field]

looks like water to me

[blazing sail]

But you skate on it

[worn field]

you splash when you fall in

[vapid briar]

ice is still water

[blazing sail]

And don’t swim

[austere merlin]

It’s fake water

[dire escarp]

Confirmed by the "blue light" clue, that it's pure water

[austere merlin]

Obviously

[vapid briar]

because you can only swim on the water surface in our game engine.

[empty inlet]

it's a long lasting thought since 0.4.x and kind of already posted in before but now will come in a more organized form with comparing to other game experiences

[blazing sail]

But it would be ON the lower level of ice

[minor robin]

... hhhhhh flashbacking to that ‘candle on the water’ song. n-no. not that song. that super dated song with lyrics which is oddly relevant to sky

[dire escarp]

Rumers point toward the pure waters of a mountain lake.

[worn field]

you can see the surface of the water in the entrances to under the rink

[blazing sail]

But it’s ice

[vapid briar]

there's this awesome concept in fantasy settings, heavily used in game design and visual entertainment called suspension of disbelief

[blazing sail]

I know that that always confused me

That it looks like water from above but is ice from below

[worn field]

everything sounds like you're underwater when you're down there too

[minor robin]

lovely place for music

[blazing sail]

Ok but we can use that same suspension of disbelief and put candles under the ice 😛

[worn field]

oh i need to try that

pls no

[vapid briar]

no because it's water

[blazing sail]

[dire escarp]

Also, the lore nerds, which I happily include myself, consider the skykids to be made of a clay type substance, so may well sink in deep water

Belief unsuspended... Fact

[minor robin]

honestly q&a/seasonal chat might be chaotic too if we had to look under ice for candles

[blazing sail]

Not chaotic. There’s a wing under there

[dire escarp]

Ooh what about frozen candles, with light within an orb of ice

[worn field]

we have new candle locations in forgotten ark, you can go spelunking there

[blazing sail]

Standing, I might add. Not swimming

[empty inlet]

we already look under ice for shinyboi

[minor robin]

wing in a very very obvious and consistent spot

[dire escarp]

Like a discoball

[blazing sail]

The light goes down there tho

So people will already be looking down there

[worn field]

imagine the 'candle locations photos' lol, they'd all look the same

[dire escarp]

Light isn't necessary fire

Ooh...

What is the light made of

[empty inlet]

plus how you know that's water not something else makes out of light

[blazing sail]

Magic

[minor robin]

if candles were random under the rink, along with all those glowy bits... I mildly pity players who don’t have access to discord/guides/whatever and just play the game straight up

[worn field]

of all the things to change, this seems pretty minor anyway

[minor robin]

this game should be enjoyable and not much of a chore to players of all ages/accessibilities

[vapid briar]

another reason for making it seem like it's dry under the ice rink is movement in water in games tends to give a Very Large Number of people motion sickness.

[blazing sail]

I guess it’s just.... the valley candles have been in pretty much the same place for every season so far. Last season was a little different bc of the new cave but now we’re back to the old ones

[vapid briar]

that's why using suspension of disbelief to give the illusion of being under water while still functioning like on dry land is the happy medium.

[worn field]

i love skating down there

[chilly wigeon]

It would be cool if you had to dry off when you got out of the water

For like a second

[vapid briar]

most of valley is in a race format akin to an auto-scroller, there aren't a lot of places to put candles. period.

[worn field]

skykids dry instantly because they're made of fire, i guess

[dire escarp]

Weren't the candles in the storage space for Belonging?

[vapid briar]

can you imagine if we put the seasonal clusters in the race and how frothing mad people would get if they had to re-do the races if they missed one cluster?

[blazing sail]

But we’ve never had them under the ice.

Pease don’t ban me.

[vapid briar]

the trade-off is a little boring

[minor robin]

I can skate down there if I’m at 60fps with letterbox and in my ipad... or I get sick if I’m 30fps and on my phone... the motion blur and speed and tight spaces

[worn field]

there's citadel but it's locked behind a barrier that newer players find difficult to unlock

[dire escarp]

Citadel though!

[vapid briar]

water...even the illusion of it...does not mix.

[dire escarp]

More reason to visit citadel is always good

[vapid briar]

we literally use water as a very specific mechanic to extinguish light.

[empty inlet]

headache comes

[chilly wigeon]

Also has anyone had the last part of the little platforms at the end never come up

Idk how to say it

[blazing sail]

But this illusionary water doesn’t do that

[empty inlet]

sounds like a persistent bug

[vapid briar]

again, if you're unhappy with these design choices that's why we have feedback channels. whingeing about it in chat doesn't get over to the design team as efficiently.

[dire escarp]

@vapid briar that made me wonder about purity of water, especially in the ark (sorry skybot), the water there did suck light energy, but after we purified it, it no longer does, so not all water.

[blazing sail]

I think I gave feedback for it already

[worn field]

skybot knows what beta channels are now

watch this: forgotten ark

[dire escarp]

Is pure water a specific thing? And so is the rain in forest "impure" somehow

OMG such theories

[empty inlet]

got some clear answer from Jenova about the things i've been missing tho

he dislike them