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I'd really love if we could have a spiral button in friend trees, I miss casually oobing and not being yeeted into oblivion 
An official spiral button would be awesomely perfect
Ikr!
The message could be "the light of true friendship rises above all darkness"
any plans to bring back floating candle wax for any or all of the previous afk spots? sorry if this has been asked before
We don't know TGC plans, we just get stuff to test
i know. i was kinda hoping a dev would see it but i dont wanna ping
Boy do I dislike the wax balls. What’s even the use of them?
to stop afk'ing I assume
It’s a horrible concept. Who wants to focus on their screen, waiting for balls to appear, only to see them bounce off and disappear under the rain? Geyser is enough of that already
I hate how they get stuck in the rocks so you have the fight to pop them back out so you can burn them at all 
For what little wax they give, they’re just not worth it imo
I used to let wax accumulate while I did the rest of the area so I could swoop over and collect before leaving. I don't want to stop and fight the dang balls. 
Same!
(when they learn fun adventure game is indeed NOT a fun adventure game
)
I personally have plenty of fun, lol. I wouldn't even hate the balls so much if they would stay where they could be burnt. 
days of nature updates in beta around february 17th
Can't know for sure
I can't wait to see what will happen next season and days of nature testing.

Doot
smh Ash leaking the new Killer Bee Swarm emote before it goes to beta 😔
DDOOOOOOOT
Wait what does season polish mean
Doot
Could be quest polish
This build includes testing for:
- Updates to Shared Spaces and Shared Spaces spells
- Days of Bloom and Season polish
- Graphics polish
We're doing another playtest! Join us in Forgotten Ark on Wed. Feb. 8 at 6pm PST (UTC -8) to test the butterfly group feature for Days of Bloom and give the servers a workout!
Oh god I hope shared spaces spells didn't go one step back
🐝
Doot? I thought you guys were joking. But it is real

I have never joked about a doot 
Yes we are actually lying
early days of fools
Wonder what the graphics polish will do
here I go into app
I have 😈
Doot? 
🏃
i say because most testing starts about 60 days before the event releases, it’s a pretty common pattern that i’ve noticed. The days usually deviate by a day or two, but i’m pretty sure it’ll be around the date that i said 🥰
Aight
Usual disclaimer here about the beta-updates post coming Soon™️
i heard something about swarms of bees?
the grass seems more.... whippy. Like it has more changes to animation but idk
Whips around dif in wind
Ah they added shared space spells to qg tree for free
when will days of nature testing begin?
@swift cave, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
it's always doot time when I should be asleep 
so doing last quest for first time and how do i bring the spirits. they just walk in their areas and dont follow me or anything so hey dark whats ur favorite food i didn't ask a dumb question bc I skipped a cutscene just wondering about food
days of nature adding trees you can shake which may or may not drop a hive full of wasps that will attack you
I like a hearty homemade meal after a long peaceful meditation session 
totally brand new never been seen before idea

quick edit ur comment to ur favorite food so I wont look dumb
YEAAAAH my plan is perfect
Soon™️
we still have to be butterflies before we can be bees!
real talk when do we get a bereft vet statue to scan as a star product and walk him around sky holding hands he reminds me of a grandpa and i need to constantly make sure hes doing alright all the time
oops i had finished the quests and pleading child has returned
Oh doot!! Yay :D
What do you mean he’s returned
hes back up on his platform
Oh man I can’t wait to test the next season (and see new seasonal area)
maybe you should consider locking your live account on that quest, just for that 
i dont think you can take them out of the door 😦
oh I misread
also is there even a medi for that quest
cause I keep thinking the entire quest line is non-replayable 
manta ult projector still slow 
so.. am i still the only person still not able to get the final quest done? the spirits still dont like my placements
I just did it perfectly fine. At first i didnt realize u have to interact with them and they show u where but after that i set the items down near to em as i could and it was fine
there's a med for gathering the spirits together in the second last quest
remove everything from shared space and start over, it should make the hearts appear again
^ and from my experience, if you wanna redo it after completing it you have to leave / rejoin the area to make the medi circle come back. Though idk if that's changed, I haven't checked 
another butterfly test 
ah the test is today, that's so soon, I thought it was tomorrow 
isn't it technically in 24 or so hours if my pst calculations are correct
the 8th PST is tomorrow
Correcto it's in 25 hours
oh heck y'all right, British brain staring at the date here and it's already Wednesday 💀
you live in the future!
now that midair props are back, I'm curious about what color the picnic table is on the bottom...
It's a small, flat table
So the color is invisible. Gotcha 
I thought about this, couldn’t you just place those props midair automatically with 1 press?
rather than dragging it on the screen
Is the last quest not working for anyone else? It's telling me I'm missing an item, but I've placed all four of the spirits' props
You need both of child's plushies, so there's 5 props not 4 (if that's the one missing?)
I've used both plushies, yes
Not sure why I said it's small but it's a flat table under there, Jiron pointed out that it could be based after a certain style of japanese tables: #beta-screenshots-videos message
God I can't word rn just read Jiron's post
Update: I don't have the update installed, that's probably why it's not working
turns out whenever the prop is in edit mode, it appears highlighted in the screenshots as well. good to know 
they added a new prop in treehouse shared spaces
it's a garland of some sort 
and also those lanterns in wasteland are added in all shared spaces
Ok no, updating still didn't do the trick. idk, I'll probably submit a bug report if it doesn't work soon
Updoot 
the load times on the shared spaces are almost instant oh my god 
(still can't light anyone tho sorry broskies)
my update got cancelled whilst I was running dailies in live so now I gotta start over 
Not being able to light people makes me so sad
I really like having all the stars in my cons lit, and having unlit stars really bothers me 
Someone I know once described it as like popping bubble wrap when you get to collect lights from friends and it's so true, now our constellations are bubbleless and it's not as fun 😭
i moved 3 steps in beta and immediately crashed
oh boy here we go
is there a shared space in valley?
That was me, sorry. 😔
/j
"Some of the floor is lava" time, let's goooo 
ayy the memory rocks don't run away anymore
For the 100% completion in the season, do I have to buy the stuffs from the guide spirits too?
Update got cancelled again, off I go to cry
apparently having multiple hour long recordings from aurora testing was taking up a lot of space 
Back it up to cloud or put it on a USB
Doot notes!!! Hi sago :D
oh wow, the ping for the beta update actually worked this time for me 
Only because it's not time sensitive 
Honey wake up sagomay just made a new update ping
This is more of sky general but what do the spirits give you when you relieve them in dailies now 
wait so bloom is supposed to be active again cause like my home space is barren 
No, the parts of it that will be active for the butterfly party time phase will be active once it's time for the party time playtest
flying crabs, you say?
someone who has beta pls investigate i would if i could
awh man, I'd love to participate in the test, but it starts at 3am in my timezone 
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US CARRY CRABS AGAIN 
do we not have the ios beta invite available yet?
You have the invites role, you'll be pinged when one comes out, this was just a regular update
thank you so much!a bit new to beta testing so was confused hehehr
you're welcome to ask 
Okay so yay for carrying crabs as butterflies again but nay for no butterfly memory crystals 
It would be really weird tho
Another buttefly test!!!
like what if butterfly me wanted to vlog my experience to my friends /j
sagomay! just an error i found in the patch notes the pink cape is 2021 and purple cape is 2022! you putted it as 2020 and 2021 respectively
It's not that we didn't want to, but there was a bug that caused the recorded "butterflies" to show up as strangely animated Sky kids
Petition to keep name butterfly party time
WE HAVE TO SEE THIS
Not me totally losing all sense of time 🌝 I probably have a wind paths bug
butter kids 
Please someone tell me the IAP pants for bloom will reappear as buyable with this? Last bloom test it bugged out and gave me cape but I really want those pants
Hey Sago, I really want to work at TGC in User Analysis, but I don't have the degree. I have the ability to competently do all of the responsibilities, but based on the must haves I need 8 more years of experience total. Based on your personal experience with TGC, what do you think I should do?
If you bought the pants while they were bugged (meaning you instead received the cape) you won't ever be able to get the pants sadly
That's so crummy TvT
If i were to go at Forgotten Ark would I see the event or no-?
I'm not involved with hiring at the studio, but for general pointers, I'd say take a look at different websites and online communities related to working in game dev, they can give some really good insights!
I always forget office has a share space 
Not til about the time that the playtest starts tomorrow
Are there any future plans to bring back Livestreams on YouTube or do you know the reason they were stopped? Sorry for asking so many questions (I'm sure you are busy)
Okay what's with the last couple of updates having sparkles
I went into the repository and there were these lines of sparkles just looking like a fancy chandelier in the middle of the room 
It's obviously AURORA trying to bring joy to the remembrance spirits
Those are spirit ascension trails from the final cutscene, they load when you enter the area. You also see it when entering Dream village
Someone spilled their glitter 
I never got to see the cutscene, I can't relive the last memory so now I'm sad I just have their dead confetti 😭
Sounds like a bug
Nooo, the portal sparkles are gone 
bucket prop 
People who did get to see the real cutscene, are your spirits gone from their platforms or are they back?
Uuuh lemme check
does anyone know what the last bullet in the general list for the update ping is? the one about crab and butterfly delegations
Butterflies forms were able to carry crabs, in a later build it was patched, I'm assuming in this build it's implying we can carry them again but in rather limited capacity
I don't have details on that that I can share, but if folks had particular types of videos or livestreams they'd be interested in, you could send that to either live or beta feedback for us to gather up!
im just curious why that wouldnt be listed under “bloom” updates if it relates to bloom ?/gen
Probably because it was too long...?
The reason I ask is because the butterfly party premiering would be a really great event to Livestream
The delegations had very specific stipulations as part of their participation in the Great Butterfly & Dark Crab Summit of 2023. The placement of that bullet point was one of them
Okay so I found the jaggy crystal rock in treasure reef and apparently it recharges you 
Has anyone tested the wind path bug yet with this new doot?
Someday crabs will be able to carry butterflies 🦋 
Lord Sagomoy can you explain it to me like I'm a 3rd grader 🫠
Rude Skybot
tldr I'm making it all up 

manta spawner buff pls
Me when I spread misinformation online
sagomay when they spread misinformation online meme
So the button to access our share spaces appears on top of the diamond now as opposed to in the middle of other share space lanterns around the diamond or is that a funky new bug?
also sagomay is there plans of releasing a butterfly call? 
Are you a pea? Cause you're the only vitamin I C 🟢
We have manta spawner but what about krill spawners

Wafo! 🧇 🍴
the mysterious and all-powerful Skybot sees all! ...also, i'm stuck in the mods' basement again, can you let me out? 
year 3 of waiting for an isle or prairie season 🍽️🍴
I noticed that too when working on my space earlier
not what I'm used to but tbh it's actually kinda nice ?
back to genchat you go 🧹
Did they lower the price of the tulip cape yet 
It was lowered to 110 in a previous update but we don't know if it's been lowered further
A FIX FOR WIND PATHS BUG IN THIS BUILD? GOOD. Let's hope that it's a fix.
I think it makes it clearer for accessing our own space but I was confused for a moment, I thought my space had just not saved 

We get to redo the butterfly event? Can't wait to see everyone feeding the krill again 
Krill gets a feast 2.0
Mealtime for the ark krill 
because transforming into butterflies is part of days of bloom?

Does anyone know what would happen if you lose all your wing while being a butterfly? 🤔
I just finished eden and I need to collect some lighted wings for the krill 
goodbye butterfly party, hello pity room party!
what.
Krill picnic
maybe we can turn skybot into a butterfly and send them off to see the krill tomorrow too
wait wha so we cant carry crabs as butterflies? like that wasnt discussed?
how exactly does one get to the days of bloom area?
Ohh a very big update :0c
not me seeing final cutscene and cry in class
is it still possible to get to where days of bloom is being held?
The event is not active yet, but once it is you can teleport through the Bloom guide at home
oh, what event? when is it?
Bloom, no idea when the event will be reactivated exactly. Are you asking about beta or live?
beta
Bloom already ended
as per #beta-announcements it's the play test for the butterfly event, it'll be active tomorrow at the time mentioned in the update notes
about designing shared spaces:
is anyone else constantly running into props glowing red and being unable to place them in the way you want?
that's usually when you're trying to place it in an invalid location/it's overlapping something, but if it doesn't seem to be then report as a bug
I'm not crying. You're crying. I don't regret taking a peek at the beta ss vids channel
Crabs can fly now 
pog
yeah it has to do with overlapping.. but why tho? like, I’d like to place an umbrella inside of a pipe but I suppose the way the hitboxes are compared it doesn’t allow that, even tho no part of the props are even touching.
also try placing an umbrella in the middle of a picnic cloth and it won’t let you
these are just a few examples.
I don’t see the added value of restricting prop placement like that.
Just did quest 5 part 1 and it says to find all the pieces
Spirits are pieces indeed yes 
Yeah that was in the last build too. I was so confused for a minute
pieces of ||memories||
I'm not sure cause I placed balloons in the bucket prop and it showed up red occasionally but I just had to get the angle right, maybe try place the umbrella then place pipe and see if that works. If you have feedback on prop placement and overlapping though definitely let devs know in #beta-feedback because it's fun having some props overlap and it's not so great if we can't fiddle around with them
what if sky cotl chess game with spirits as pieces
When I was building my dragon head earlier I kept getting red props, mainly when trying to stack pillows... They had like maybe 2 pixels overlapping and it would just be like no. 
I find pillows easiest to stack without getting bonked by red, the only issue I have with them is when they're trying to flip inside of each other when I just want a nice neat stack
yeah I did write feedback. designing a shared space should be fun, not some frustrating experience fiddling around until the game decides this can go there and whatever.
Literally everything I worked with was pretty easy to build with EXCEPT for those pillows
our luck with them is the complete opposite 
maybe they could add the bb.moveobjects on cheat from the sims
suddenly overlapping everything 
skitters out of the floorboards to play beta now that it updooted
just realised the spirits got the comfort of a found family but they still all died in the end so like 
thats a thing people do sometimes ive noticed, the whole dying thing
I still can’t place props in the air 
I have a new beta friend except I somehow screwed up the word "friend" when naming them so badly that it doesn't even look like a word 😭
Bro whats the missing prop i have tried with all stuff and nothing XD
Is it bugged or something?
Missing prop? Have a pic?
Okai I figured it out. Weeee!
I still remember that one oob between vault and eden that looks like a chessboard
Sky cotl chess when
Do you know why when I create a new account in sky beta it sends me to a Chinese server?
There shouldn’t be a country exclusive server tho, what happened?
I don't know hahaha I created a new account in sky beta and everyone I meet speaks Chinese
There's not a china-exclusive server in beta, though there is a lot of Chinese players. That's why you're encountering a lot of people that speak Chinese
OHH that’s just cuz a lot of Chinese players joined sky beta
same i've been using the translate feature more than ever before lately
every conversation is just
"what?"
"what do you mean?"
"what?"
"i don't know"
"i don't understand"
"what?"
"what do you mean?"
"what?"
I've encountered maybe one or two English speakers in the wild of beta, almost everyone I've met spoke Chinese. Some were able to slightly communicate in broken English, but mainly spoke in Chinese to me. They've all been super sweet and despite the language barrier they're fun to talk to 
Probably should have the option to translate our typed out text to whatever language we choose. Reverse translation? 
i translated a message before and it was like "come light a fire with me" i had no idea at the time that they meant light their candle
A lot of the time I'm asked where I'm from, as soon as I say USA, they get up and go away from me. 😞
I find a lot of Chinese players use beta as their main method to play global
i thought i was the only one this had happened to 🗿
You are not alone, I'm out here being unwanted with you. 💖
that sucks
usually when i meet chinese players and say i'm from america, they say something along the lines of "is it bad there?/do you like it there?" like 😭 /lh
I forgot what are the times for aurora concert ¿It happens to someone else that it doesn't appear the timing when you go to the concert?-

it could also partially be because of the language barrier that they leave. some people will see a language barrier and just decide that they don't wanna deal with that and leave yk 
Whenever I say I'm from the USA they're usually just in awe like "wow, you're the first foreigner I've met"
it's cute, to be honest.
omg i've experienced that before toooo i literally got a message that read "woah foreigner??" i was like 
You'll have better luck asking that in #questions-and-help , since we don't get the concerts in beta 
I do get this from time to time. It depends on where the person is from tbh
I've met many nice people from all over.
On Live, I am rarely treated badly, it's only on Beta I have trouble.
And why do they think Americans are so dumb that we can't hit the translate button and see what they are saying about us?
“Dark crabs flying under certain limited conditions were acceptable” #beta-announcements
What crabs can jump attack ?
I got a rather, perhaps rude question. Just a thought that I had. If the Chinese players are unable to provide feedback due to eg language barrier/ unable to access sky discord. Is there a reason they should be in beta?
Or is beta something that anyone can join even with reasons like they just wanted to have a look at new stuff, and have no intentions to provide feedback?
Sorry if that sounded nasty, it’s just a thought I had.

Seeing that beta has limited slots and there are people who wants to help with the bugs/help improve the gaming experience
Is it just me or i see #beta-announcements go white but didn’t receive the beta updates ping ?
is discord buggy ?
I think it's referring to a recent thing where people were carrying crabs as butterflies, but I could be wrong!
Ohh 💀
Heat seeking Kreb missile
I'd imagine that the Chinese players have a discord or place where they can provide feedback in their language. I know they have their own servers and group (at least in live), so it would make sense that they have a place where they can provide feedback.
Just because they may not speak English doesn't mean they can't help improve the game.
is mentioning insects censored? 💀
Because i was trying to say flying type of crabs reminds me of those flying type of insect with long antenas 💀
and No i cant even use the emoji of that beloved insect 😭
When I first played Sky, many many moons ago, I thought it would be fun to have a Days of Fast event for Ramadan. But it's only now I remembered that Ramadan follows the lunar calendar, so it changes every year. I'm not sure how that would work in the game then. I still think it would be fun to see, but not sure how it would be implemented.
If it’s the one I’m thinking of—a particularly disgusting type of beetle known to spread sickness and filth which you may be able to tell I can’t stand, that was filtered due to spamming when the server got carried away with it some time back
YES ITS THAT ONE LOL
Oh I assume it was because it had a different word within the word so it hit the filter
Sooooo yeah about that beta eh??
I don’t use chat often in game so I admit I don’t often know where people are from
But I really like that beta is the one place where we truly can be a global game
Occasional misunderstandings and stereotype-based assumptions not withstanding
(I’d like to ask folks not try to evade the filter. It’s a rule we try to apply as evenly as we can, even if a specific conversation about a filtered word seems harmless.
)
is this season the one season thus far that seems to have the longest number of seasonal quest? 🤔
Only because they're split in two methinks
Remembrance feels like TGC's way of redoing Assembly to me. The split quests involving the shared space feels like something that belonged in the treehouse.
Assembly but without the required player count for quests thank God
I was saying that since Day 1. Remembrance is Assembly but the kids grew up and dealt with tragedies.
Hey guys. How r u. Can anybody tell me what the pleading dude needs to see placed before him ? I emptied my entire wardrobe at his feet but he’s not satisfied …
the pleading child likes the manta and crab plushies
thanks peep
It worked🎉 I honestly don’t get how beggars have the audacity to get choosy… but as long as it helps me achieve my goal. I’ll plushy him …
has anyone ever proposed a Concept idea of a “catch up” pack for peeps that has started Sky in a particular season but was too much of a moth to understand what was happening? so they missed out?
In this concept, only the season they were essentially “born in” Sky will be included in that pack. What do ya’ll think? 🤔 
I believe that it was first brought up when Android joined
i seeee, i was just watching one of Nastymold’s video of showcasing all the ultimate and soooooo many people were saying “Yeah i started in season of Blah blah but i was too much of a noob to understand what was happening so i missed out”
This concept would be SO cool from tgc be like “Hey this was your first season so here’s a gift from us” 
I believe the Chinese got angry a lot a few years back when tgc wanted to bring back certain items from previous seasons. It created a buzz indeed
there will always be people that will get angry unfortunately in the world of sky. It's a numbers game at the end of day 🥲
A lot of Android folks like to claim theirs is the only platform without an exclusive item, which I think is part of why there was a wish to bring back old items in some capacity
@dark bear what do you mean by remov it before the mod sees it?
fomo
that moth who was playing a guitar when you can’t see it is hacked content, showcasing hacked content is not allowed
ohhhh thank you soooooo much for saving me 
yeee we have Nintendo and now Playstation too
did I deleted it? Can you help me check?@dark bear
it’s gone now 👍
TJ has @opaque cipher
what is crowd mode?:0
Inflation Nation 🎉
it's all good tho, there are certain aspect of this i see every now and again, Firstly when you look at their helpshift,
1.) https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/hc/en/17-sky-children-of-the-light/faq/626-patch-notes---march-9-2020---0-8-4-146956/?s=patch-notes&f=patch-notes---march-9-2020---0-8-4-146956
The first link was a patch note from back in 2020 march. Which of course they didn't touch for a little over 2.5 years and the second link is their Traveling Spirit page, which they update pretty frequently. Notice how they didn't change the last point of it. Moreover, you can ask either via their contact email or a direct dev, they usually would never give you a straightforward answer. It's always a vague one. To say that it's all decided and written in stone is far fetched because none of us are a core TGC staff. So don't lose hope! Look how Journey was released in 2012 and look after how many years we're getting an official pack XD
🎉
What will be the price for cherry blossom prop in the remembrance guide?
80????
Isn't it like 40?? What.
ah right it's 40 candles my bad
my brain automatically went to the days of bloom prop
that one is 80
flower pot is 40 
Yeah it's 40.
i kept thinking of the birbfeeder XD
okay so if you like
just press the prop icon, the UI shows up to be able to move it to where you want it to be, but the problem is that the emote menu UI covers up the trash can + check mark
but I feel this is a change so controller players don't suffer as much trying to place props
@twin isle I think my phone just doesn't record game audio so that's actual microphone audio 
I'll just mute it next time
It made me laugh so a win is a win
It should give you an option to choose in-game audio
The ✨ultimate gift✨ recharge speed is still slower than a c a k e .
And considering how many days of the season are left I doubt it will be boosted at all...

its the people, not TGC. There is not a lot of buzz. No major sky 'influencer' is covering this issue with the exception of noob mode, so unless TGC sees a cat hair incident scale uproar, i doubt there will be any changes
-_-
So much for the AP 😂
You mean a candle cake?
Birthday cake spell no?
Cause it's definitely faster than the birthday cake, it's the same speed as the brazier
but slower than another paid item. Which gives 1.6s of charge per wedges
the ult is valued for its aesthetic change, not so much the recharge speed tbh
edit cuz cooldown: no, that's just my personal opinion
did the devs mention this? 🤔
edit: exactly
I just find it weird how the ult was supposed to just be a pretty light show that TGC added recharge cause we asked for it. Now the only function people care about is to recharge
That's what I initially thought as well. It's like a much better version of the little prince prop now with a new recharge touch which is nice. Personally for me it was more about the looks since I'll still be taking a fire prop with me to grandma
but isn’t that the point of “known issue“?
that the devs Acknowledge the fact that a certain phenomenon is happening or isn’t happening that supposed to be already incorporated in that specific built?
the value of the ult to me was the ability to change any realm to night lighting
which was like, a heavily requested feature for forever
good luck with that, its gonna get swept under
What do you mean known issue? Afaik there was nothing mentioned at all about the prop being able to recharge until the Live patch notes came out AFTER beta repeatedly asked them to add recharge
people love the projector for the most part i can't think of a single person who bought the sp for the other ult 💀
It took me a second to remember what the other ult was ngl
it doesn't even fit right with the capes from this season, let alone most capes from other seasons 
I think they mean known issue in the sense that "this ult does not have a comparable recharge speed to other ults" ?
I thought known issue was like bugs but maybe I'm reading it wrong (also it's midnight here can't sneep
)
more like a community discourse rather than "issue" probably
about the scarf ult
isnt it the point
like
that the vault scholar attire doesn't fit the wasteland refugees
That's the ability to charge, but not implying that it's a super fast charging prop tho
! It's just putting it out there that the option existed I think
I don't understand what you're trying to say here
Graduation vibes fr 🎓
no Elysian is talking about how people’s obsession turned from a “pretty prop” to recharge functionality when TGC put that disclaimer of “known issue”.
Known issue mostly means that the Devs acknowledges that a certain phenomenon is either happening or supposed to happen which is to be in cooperated in THAT built itself but is working towards getting it fixed.
So the remark of how they find people’s obsession with functionality rather than aesthetic is weird. While i find it warranted
Don't get me wrong I would love a super fast charging prop, but I just don't think we can have both pretty things and useful things at the same time. Too nice for us 😭 It's hard to come by and I doubt that would happen
It would be a miracle if they made that happen lol
Almost like the prop would be too OP if that makes sense?
Aah I see what you're saying then thx for clarifying for my sleepy brain
that's an opinion. I could also say people mostly getting riled up about only and strictly aesthetic item that does absolutely nothing whatsoever is equally weird. For example the Cat hair. I already have enough 'pretty' item just collecting dust in my closet doing absolutely nothing.
What should be done is let both opinions be respected and let it be. I can see both sides tbh. And the people wanting the recharge to be on par with Bonfire are not causing anyone any lethal harm
No fr it's just a game at the end of the day
How did I not notice that cooldown is 60 seconds that's crazy
Some ppl got way too pressed over cat hair then they should've ☠️ I remember lurking in the response channel to peek replies and yea constructive criticism is fine ofc but aggressively attacking devs is way too much mannn
Because people spread misinformation about the reasoning for cat hair being change to IAP
Personally I would have been happy with the ult regardless of recharge, but my issue with them nerfing the power of it is their reason for doing so - to me you can't say it's about fairness whilst not rectifying the issue of the over powered bonfire.
Most calm beta testing discussion:
YESSSS
Well said bubba
Anywho I just dropped by to say I wish we could hug the spirits before they leave us, after helping them feel comfort in their loss I just wish I could give them all a big ol' bearhug 
Even if they did have similar recharge speed, it shouldn't be an issue as they both have their trade-offs. One has looks and the other can burn at geyser/grandma. They would both be equal in a way with their own respective strengths imo (that's if they charged the same)
It's not like one is the 2.0 version of the other.
Besides, giving the ult a better charge will give more incentive for players to purchase the pass (if they did dailies everyday), in-turn more revenue for tgc. It's a win win
a much more preferable option but not sure if it well get implemented at this rate
I felt that when I saw the days of feast npc's on office roof this year
I wanted to hug them as I missed those guys
~~dont ask me why , it's not like we bond with those npcs in particular outside of last year moff me visiting the one so many times to buy all those igc items
~~
We can only hope (´-﹏-`;) maybe I'll leave feedback later
Well at the end of the day the reasoning of fairness for ults to not be overpowered is so that f2p aren't at a disadvantage, so the whole point is for ults to be regarded for their cosmetic value more than anything else - but the decisions made surrounding both ults has taken away from that and that's the thing that doesn't sit well with me. If they'd just had bonfire charge at the same speed as the biggest f2p prop and then manta ult comes along and folk ask for recharge to be added nobody would have expected it to be any higher than the highest f2p recharge because bonfire would have been the same.
But since they added the unlevel playing field and haven't corrected it, of course when they include recharge with manta ult people are going to want it to be on par with the only other charging ult.
Alternatively they could just yoink recharge altogether from manta lamp, but I don't think that would go down well at this point either 
You worded and articulated it very very well.
i don't think the charge would be such a big topic if tgc hadn't already promised that they are going to implement it in a future update
people are going to have high expectations now and there's not much you can do about it. i can understand that players want it to be comparable to the bonfire
eh
the notes said that a recharge function would be added but it never specified the power of the recharge
Hey how much to do you charge for essays/j
I'll give candles 
people are aware that it didn’t specify. People are requesting
i know they didn't but if they don't specify, then people will make assumptions. there's no way around it
Fr tho, bubba has a way with words in beta discussions
I mean they didn't specify but then someone clicked the super duper road runner recharge speed when they first rolled it out and that didn't help 
for real 💯
and so continues the usual disappointment that comes out of beta when something gets nerfed and it's like oh no my expectations why and we're here like it's beta, ya fool 
bubba the beta bookworm⁉️
Idk if u read but it shows in a good way
anyone who reads this and is wondering why this discussion is happening in the first place. Pls do remember. If bonfire had not existed and if the manta prop was the FIRST EVER ulti to recharge us, this conversation would never take place
It can be hard to disconnect your own expectations from the reality of beta testing, but I think the more time and the more understanding you develop of the dev industry, the easier it can get. 
Doesn't make certain choices any less disappointing though 😔
i just think that if they make the little note about how the prop will get a recharge function, then they should give a rough estimate on how fast it recharges. if you don't do that then of course people will think it'll be as fast as the bonfire. there's a reason why this was such a big topic in this channel; because lots of testers had the same assumption 
As a beta moth, this is becoming way too real 😢 time for me to learn to get used to this sorrow 😪
You know what gets me, grandma has a bonfire right there and she never uses it, so like, hand it over already 
But then they throw back the valid statement that everything isn't final even the notes and we just gotta JJdiwidwnoaGtOsn 😩 they got all their bases covered😭 !! (Smart of them tbh bc they know we're so quick to jump on things ☠️)
Gonna go back to my old motto for beta🥷 :if your hopes are already low, they can never go below 👇/j
how many days are left in beta anyways? (for season i mean)
yikes! 6 days 
I actually wanted Days of nature to have a frog suit and to take place in the Hidden forest 🐸
Forest would be a great place to explore nature like frogs and birds and burrowing critters and bEES 
Bee antennas would be so cute I can see it now
beetle mask when 
and and and bee wings, tiny lil round transparent wings that look like we wouldn't be able to fly with them but we can because BEES DON'T KNOW THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FLY 
making the theme of days of nature be "save the bees" would be so fitting 
Why am I hearing "flight of the bumblebee" being speed played in forest lobby ☠️⁉️
ALSO ladybird cape 🐞
About the Japanese telop "すべてのパーツを集めましょう" . When gathering spilits, calling "パーツ:parts" makes players feel uncomfortable.
this circles back to bug season when
(insect, not game bugs lol)
I was going to say we already had a beetle mask
but on the wiki it says that the Saluting Protector spirit mask is a bird
what
just totally relaxing classical music 
imagine a fuzzy moth mask, performance concept art pls come home
as long as the charity iap doesn't look like a hunting trophy im okay with everything 🐢
what was it
radiance from hollow knight cosplay ty
whoever the king moth guy is
Some ppl really be out here in lobbies playing music like Megalovania and Bohemian Rhapsody riffs at ultrasonic speeds like it's nothing
I'm no longer surprised by the lobby music chaos!
Hope day's of nature had more igc than iap... but I like too continue the donation at this event
I just hope to have a fox mask with a real fox design
||damm Leaping Dancer||
send this information to #beta-feedback!
I also reported the same thing 
Talking about masks
I wonder how much the next Ultimate gift masks will cost
I think the Golden Wasteland Elder's will cost 450 Eden Candles 💀
if they ever introduce bees to sky they should make it so they can either recharge you or take your energy (sting) depending on how you treat them 😌
The creatures that TGC puts in the game are based on sea creatures
shark when TGC?
3 ac cause they want to defend people they care about at all cost 🤲
or if they sting us enough to make us float like a 🎈
Understood. thank you.
Idk have y'all ever been stung? It hurt like I was about to die so honestly just
bee stings you
extinguished
Uhh is there changes to ult prop recharge speed? After they slow it down so badly?
Thanks for the answer
i did feedback ig they not taking it
When is the new season of sky coming out?
In less than a minute
Yesterday
Usually there's two or three weeks gap between seasons, same way as in live
I saw the update and it mentioned fixes for Days of Bloom, but I thought Bloom is over since the tree is gone....I'm confused.
In beta things often return only partially. This time the tree is not part of it I guess, if you updated 
Anyone know how long it usually takes for certain updates in beta to come to main game??
It's totally random. Some features stay in testing being polished for months or get removed. Some others go to live in weeks
Ouh, what if it's not that big of an update and just a little change/fix?
Same as above
We beta testers know no plans in advance we just get stuff to test
broo i’ve been stung so many times i can’t even count 😭😭 i’ve found i’m not allergic, so no swelling, but it still hurt like a 
usually when it comes to days of _ tho testing begins about 60 days before it is released to live, so like 2 months
@swift cave, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
ok yeah i know it’s not always exactly 60 days but it tends falls into that pattern, sky bot
The question was about certain updates not events but could be true !
right, just providing some insight that has helped me stay patient for updates 😋
There is no bloom guide. I’m confused. Is it supposed to be here? How we test if it gone?
maybe days of bloom is over in beta? it’s almost time for days of nature testing to start
Lol. I read update and think we are to test.
tbh usually the next batch of testing doesn't start until the current beta patch hits live so it'll be a while yet
bloom seems that it will be activated for a third time for the stress test reasons
Ok so may still come back?
All the info is in #beta-announcements
I read but still confused. Oh well. I just come back everyday and see.
it will be like feb 20s when days of nature starts
@swift cave, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
How Can I Be Tester?
Read through #beta-faq how to join in the future when invites will open
I bet the new season will be located in Isle of Dawn 
Really late because I was asleep but like, I bought the pass for the scarf ult 
i forgot about the scarf bc the projector spark so much debate 
Hope so!!
I love the nori scarf
I get the ult scarf tomorrow in live I'm so hype 
I just got the scarf today and I'm really happy since it means I get to be my beta skid in live now 
I'd have it today but I'm a candle short because I got one candle pack to get the pleading child scarf 
I just need tiptoe's hairstyle and I'll be able to recreate beta skid in live sooon
Just remembered there Live maintenance tomorrow. Which means 0.20.5 in the next week or so. Meaning ult recharge speed is probably gonna stay unless it changes within the next update or teo
Really surprised it's maint with no downtime
With all the server errors that are going to happen, it might as well be downtime
Live maintenance is today <t:1675873800:R>
i honestly don't even see my self carrying that prop anymore since the redesign is way too bulky and the recharge, yeah.
🦇 <- full of doots
When is the next beta invite wave?
Whenever they need testers.
I ate the beta invite wave. 
So we're probably not gonna get an increase to speed manta ult prop right 
Nope nor a price drop for bloom cape apparently
well that’s genuinely annoying tbh, as it has been for awhile
Why not? Sorry, i just joined the chat
Good morning!
Eh?! They put it back to 125 candles?
It still costs 110 candles for the cape right?
Okay that's less than it was the first round it appeared in beta was 125 candles. 110 still high imo considering Sakura is 70 and then wisteria is 105 at least rose or whatever it's supposed to be is only 5 more candles. I already got it so I can't see prices anymore.
Yes it’s lowered from the original price, but 10 candles isn’t much difference imo. I was suggesting that they probably weren’t going to lower it more because it’s been a couple updates and nothings changed
It was originally 120 candles iirc
Correct, it was originally 120 and lowered to 110
Wait, what about all the days of bloom stuff, is it gone? Didn't they say they're gonna have another butterfly stress test later?
Only the parts relevant to the test will be available at the time of the test, namely the butterfly transformation shrine
So uhhh i think im in a wrong server like i met so many chinese players in beta
that's how you know you're in beta 
Atleast tho since i cannot understand chinese || i started speaking french >:D||
They were so confuse they use a translator to communicate to me
ah yes, lower it just 10 candles
Bruh the manta ult recharge rate was fine originally why they gotta keep “fixing” things that ain’t broke and ignore what the community has asked to fix
I want it at least equal to torch like 😭 it should be equal to bonfire but at least be equal to torch. I just don't get why we keep getting slow recharge items.
@kindred prawn projector mantas look like their real life counterpart

They doesn't look ✨cosmic✨
im just not gonna worry about what tgc does anymore and tbh you all shouldn't either
they're not gonna listen to anyone, even if changing the price of a cape is just turning 110 to 70, it won't convince them.
Season of remembrance alright... Because i will remember how they massacred that prop.
To prevent this from happening again I feel like all the recharge props should be the same speed as torch, that way this kind of thing doesn't happen again
This right here. It's not even about the prop anymore. Wasted enuf energy already. 3-4 people out of a group of 10000s+ member discord group can only speak so much.
Guys, days of bloom ended? In beta updates is a new update for testing event, but I can't see it in home, forest or forgotten ark
Is it just me, or we will test only butterfly party?
only butterflies, they said they'd appear when theyre ready to go
We will only be testing the butterfly group event during the scheduled time
Oh... Sad
But thank ya
And, one more question
I've got new pants from days of bloom, but they didn't appear in the wardrobe... (And not only me, but my friends didn't get them too)
Will tgc send them by post or nope?🥲
If you got the pants while they were bugged then you cannot get them in beta anymore. Tgc will not be sending them by post or anything, since there's no compensation in beta
Oh... Well. I thought it would be like aurora's voice instrument, but
æugh 😭
Poor mantas are dirty, they need a good shower @kindred fossil
Yes please😭😭
Tgc is probably betting on live not caring about the recharge.
They weren't promised a super fast lightning quick recharge, so I'd assume so
i can bet you $50 more than 70% of the people who do see spoilers just heavily rely on mainstream influencers like Nasty or Noob aren’t even aware of just how nerfed it is
You post that recharge chart again on #beta-screenshots-videos channel and every time there will a fresh set of eyes seeing it
Welcome to the "I had hopes that TGC would change for so long and now I give up" club 🤝
oh don't forget ive been playing live since september 27th 2019
Will they also make comparisons to other props tho?
Don't think so
this also wasn't about the cape, it was an example, just to clarify
It feels like 2019 was 20 years ago.
RIIGHT
They will make comparisons once the final version is out (to other live props) for guide purposes
but comparison with what tho? (im genuinely asking because of all the fire recharge prop i see, only 1 is paid and almost none of them have exact same recharge speed). Again. I’m genuinely asking in case a dev does give the explanation and we ask further
Waiting 3hs for this comment.
Yeah of course they will compare, but I'm wondering if they are going to feel that something is off.
Sorry me no good english habibi
nice one lmaoooo
I can't say for sure that the majority of the live playerbase will even notice
exactly, i think thats the point that Hisae and i was making. Which is why they said TGC is banking on the fact that live will just….yk….sneaky snacky slide off 👀
I foresee 3 angry post on reddit and the beta comparison video making some noise in live screens and videos.
live is infact not sneaking snackying and sliding off
IM TRYING TO KEEP IT DOWN DANG IT 💀
also damn why can't they just rerelease the bonfire already? or atleast a smaller two seated version dang
idc if i worked for it years ago i want people today to have it and i want it to be igc
Shou- should we speak lower?
I think they're trying not to laugh too loud 
if only there were more people with this mentality 
Watch out, eeeeeevil scheming veterans are just around the corner (if they're still alive)
That would be nice but there's precisely 0 chance they'd make a free bonfire
Ghost veterans are even more dangerous.
They remind me of chuhuahua/j
IM JOKING
but nahhh seriously tho, being a belonging vet, seeing my toddler shattering moth say the same thing
im like bay beh noh, sharing ish caring 
BOO 👻
atp old ults are just collectors items
here's how you can appeal to 70-90% of people: rerelease ults if theyve gone 4 or so seasons away, then they can be viewable in orbit offseason
make one minor (props) or noticable (accessories) change to the rereleases, and you're done. picky veterans still keep their stuff, new players still get the old ults. also they can't be more then 120 candles/55 hearts each because i said so, and you can automatically get any of them if you buy it via a 10 dollar iap AS A SECONDARY OPTION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET THEM AS AN IGC ITEM
honestly? I'm down bruh. I can catch a break too
Let me trow money at my phone, veterans ghosts can flick off.
also people who already own these items get a 70% discount and no option to buy it with money because you literally already have it
TGC "that's too complicated, make it all IAP and only release two of them and the rest is to be released soon™️ at some foggy point in the future"
As a person who started just before prophecy, I would love to see this happen with the Anubis mask so newer players can have it too.
i can hear this echoing in ze office
'Curse those imaginary flexing veterans and their ults that they flex on me by just existing!'
plus i feel like we already have like 10+ copyrighted item that im 99.999999% sure it won’t comeback. Along with this we also have anniversary hats + charity items that gets bundled with candle. I don’t see those returning either.
So technically we have tons of item outside the realm of ulti that is exclusive too 💭
Yes please that! They aren't going to do reruns... So just let me give a company money for a piece of digital hair.
you actually have a good point about the charity item. Now that you mention it-
Willing to give away owl hair for one cornchip
im giving you my left kidney, with a down payment
Calling the Ghostbusters right now
alternatively:
if your account has atleast one bought node from a season before it turns into travelling spirits, you get a blue version of the AP necklace (only if you don't have the pass). if it's after that time, (the season's travelling spirits now) check the player's join date, then give them the necklace of the season they joined in rounding up (if you joined right after rhythm you'd have the enchantment necklace)
then: rerelease ults if theyve gone 4 or so seasons away, then they can be viewable in orbit offseason. all ults are 120 candles/55 hearts (or below) each because, and you can automatically get any of them if you buy it via a 10 dollar iap as a secondary option
in this case, the necklace is the veterans' item, everything else is now free game.
No thanks, I'm firm on the cornchip (singular)
Is deep honk at dragon strike in live yet?
I keep saying there should've been a silver version of the pendant that can be upgraded to gold when purchasing the AP
THIS ☝️ 👆
I've sent them total of 8 emails on this lmaoooo
ooh that's better then blue
however Unfortunately i did just send everything to beta feedback so ouch
ouch, just realized that
That's more fitting for #live-feedback and #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
What's your experience about game rendering compared to live? I see small subtle differences in good direction on my iphone 
game's grass looks quite a bit better, since you mostly see that stuff, makes the game look better too
however we haven't gotten a general graphics update in a long time
Grass is more scrumptious 
I see difference in shard time environmental shadows as well, less unnatural, better a tiny bit
What about that one during Shattering that made the candle and heart meters more bleached or something?
I HATE IT
the UI should have STAYED YELLOW
That clips very badly
I can't describe how the character in beta seems a little bit more grainy (?) but in a good cinematic/anime way 
But again, it's a very slight difference and maybe I'm just talking myself into it
also about this
tgc could potentially ask permission to release the same items but edited and under a like 20 dollar iap pack (aurora is one, tlp is one), so there's that
excluding auroras yellow butterfly ofc
I demand 1 billion candles for the hair.
ohhhh i see, no no.
I meant as in like, there will come a point where this game will have like 300+ ulti, if people are concerned about not having exclusive items, they have those. Like Copyrighted items or Anniversary hats that will mark them that ‘they were there’ phenomena but yeah
Well, the shared space could have a Skykid closet to be able to change pants, accessory, cape etc...
My last offer:
I will buy your hair for igc if you give me one billion candles to compensate.
And all the plushies.
Hisae wants the hair too 
😂
it canNOT be worth more than a left kidney. Come on
If i donate one, i’ll be considered a hero and if donate more than 6, im under investigation
In all seriousness, I'll just feedback reruns till the heat dead of the universe or eos (whatever comes first)
My last last offer:
Give the hair to Hisae, give the one billion candles to me
Sounds fair.
Reruns of at least gratitude to rhythm would be nice, those were from way back in the beginning where seasons were barebones and back when the game was in only one platform
@vagrant fable, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
IM GIVING BOTH MY KIDNEYS AWAY
Hindsray stop you need at least one to live 😭
Who said the kidneys are their own
And veterans who already had the ults or passes can get something special... Like a kidney from Hindsray or another pendant.
definitely NOT from a shady place at all
Oi! when did i become a sponsor? > :0
rn
How about 2 corn chips
One is definitely enough
Wait I know
Half a corn chip, final price
Seriously though, that frantic habit of locking all the good stuff behind IAP genuinely concerns me.
If it were one item here and there, one could plan ahead, maybe decide to get it next year instead…
But as it is, before you know it, you’ve given half your pay check to TGC
The moment you were typing corn, Dark was already replying. Ghost powers i tell ya.
we need a backpack
also corn chips r good
like this tweet if we need a backpack in sky
or if corn chips are good
Hmmmmmmm almost like a gacha one may say... Hmmmmmm.
i want a clothing rack 
Bonfire gacha
The real gacha is resize spells
istg, it took me legit 2.6 years to reach height 2 💀
never AGAIN
I’m still trying to reach chibi without mask. Not even sure it’s still possible
We need more IGC item for Days of Nature 
i still envy how my sister skykid is nartually tall, her was about size 5 
chibi isn't possible, only close to chibi 😭
If they allowed us to actually buy resize spells with money, sky would become a top 3 grossing app.
I think you could reach below chibi? But idk if that's possible anymore
Oh dang… I’ve tried to clip being close to chibi, I had no luck though.
I want to wear the cat mask while clipping
I'm the height closest to chibi, you can't get any shorter than that
that one silent lurking dev
🙂✍️
I am chibi
if only i could give all my height potions away to my friends who need them 😔 i've reached the height i want and i have a whole potion collection that's collecting dust now
Good for you little guy, cheers
spells r ur bestie then 
resize spells shouldnt have too much randomness
6 options. "I would like to be as tall as I can be", I would like to be taller", "I would like to be slightly taller", "I would like to be slightly shorter", "I would like to be shorter", "I would like to be as short as I can be"
option 2 and 5 have a 25% chance to fail and become random, option 1 and 6 have a 70% chance, and 3 and 4 have a 0% chancel
if you wear the chibi mask it anchors it downwards (so, shorter is more often)
you bof littol 🤏
With the mask
Or, naruto run stance, so you can have the benefit of chibi while being a giant.
if we had a tall mask it'd anchor it upwards so taller is more often
Not only are they random, but the game is clearly biased in favour of tall skids.
See how your skid is happy when becoming tall, and shivers (why?? Is it cold suddenly?!) when shrinking?
HEIGHT DISCRIMINATION
okay but smol skid with performance mask is so cute
, too bad i don't want to risk my height anymore
yes i'm 6 foot 6 irl i promise you going from 4 foot to 7 foot in the span of 2 seconds wouldn't be fun
my brain is not braining
tbh same
I have pretty big feet... Metric vs imperial jk nvm. 
okay beta chat ima brb for a few minutes
i think it might be based off the idea that many real life kids want to be taller and to be considered big kids 
me wanting to be a little forest fairy while being massive irl.
one dai, one dai. fo sho
Nah I think it’d be painless.
/j
Back to beta discussion.
The ult recharge time is awful.
This concludes the beta discussion.
that was a very riveting discussion 
The breeze is cooler near the floor
ult recharge is absolute g a r b. that's all I have to say
i'll just.....carry my halloween table for recharge...from now on....
I'm ditching these logs of woods from my back. They gave me arthritis
what the heck are you guys doing that you need like, instacharge?
i had that question too
scuba diving in polluted water ofc >:0
Shard events 👁️👄👁️
current speed is prefectly good for shards imo
Krill pit fighting
<Elden ring> Get Good </Elden ring>
i'm sure all the first-time krill dodgers would love some insta-recharge 
but really, i cant help but think if we got logs 2.0, then there would just be also unrelenting calls for unfairness about the overpowered pay to win.
i have no other reason other than it feel good to have something powerful 
Guys, i have one question. Do the mantas in the ultimate gift's projection recharge you slower than the actual spirit mantas? Or is it the same?
Naw I feel like the game is more favourable for shorter skykids the resiEs
Let’s see…
If you’re chibi short, you can chibi fall. Otherwise…
You can’t burn plants in water
You fall off big trees
Eden’s wind will end you
You’re slow (I have a hilarious video of chibi me sliding down Valley race while leading my tall friend… walking behind me 😂)
Do you want a next Season with 6 spirits?
Not really, I kinda like the 4 spirit seasons.. or maybe that's just cuz I'm used to 4 spirits since that's all I've experienced (performance moth) xd
I heard that the final quest doesn't show the final scene. Is it still like this?
4 is enough if we get less bugs, more old bugfixes, and removal of inconvenient old "features" (flashing transitions, butterfly upward yeet)
Oh i meant the resizes. When you resize I feel as if its more favourable to turn your skykid shorter
Is anyone able to light stars still?
And they said days of bloom was getting another test thing but it's not in home space? I updated the game
More spirits, more chances for cool cosmetics, so yes!
I can't light people's stars in my constellations, and haven't been able to these past 2 updates.
And regarding the bloom testing, we aren't retesting the whole event -- JUST the butterfly mass group part. The parts related to the butterfly group test will only show once it's time to test it, per sagomay's message #beta-discussion message
Thank you and does that mean I have to go through gw to get to ark to participate? Cause no spirit to just to teleport
Once the scheduling stuff kicks in for the playtest tonight, the event guide spirit should also show up in Home so that you can teleport to the Ark quickly
Also, we have a build release planned for later this afternoon (PST) for the playtest, but if folks still can't light friends' stars in the constellation after updating to that not-yet-released-as-of-right-now build, please do let me know. (I'll repost this request again once the update goes out)
So, just to make sure I'm understanding everything correctly
Only aspects of bloom related to the butterfly event will be visible during the scheduled testing time, not the whole event
Guide will be at home to teleport us ()
I'm understanding this all correctly, right? I don't wanna spread misinfo 
Pt. 1 - right, as in, I believe the game won't go through a super condensed version of every single Bloom phase leading up to the playtest. Regardless, the main point is, the build should let you turn into a butterfly at 6pm PST today
Guide - yep
Alrighty c: thank you!! Can't wait to feed the krill again turn into a butterfly
and will make sure to report if in the next build we still can't light people's stars (cuz good god is that bothering me so much-)
Yeah that maybe might kinda sorta bother us too if people can't light friend stars 
Have yall seen the 1 heart price drop... 
1 heart price drop on what? The crab plush?
no bc when I saw it I died on the inside and almost uninstalled the game. I even came here to rage and wrote a complaint to the team

(please don't cold ping users!)
The price is out,? The plushies are up? Or just for beta,,
I get where they come from, Discord likes to open up on old content for some reason 😅.
If you don’t look carefully at the date/hour, it’s easy to make the mistake and cold ping
What is a “cold ping”?
It’s replying to a post that is considered “old”.
(I have come to learn that in Discord time, “old” means even just a couple hours ago)
I’m guessing this is just 4 beta,, ^^’
The plushies are currently available in beta, and will come to live once the 0.20.5 update is eventually released to live. The crab plush is currently priced at 19 hearts, and the manta plush at 17 hearts if I remember correctly
yep we are saving 4 hearts on this 🥰🥰🥰 gotta love sky's generosity
never
I was wondering if I could ask if there’s any information for the next season after this one,?
Nope.
We don't get information about future events or seasons until they are added into beta. So we won't know about next season for awhile, not until we get 0.21.0
Understood thank you sm
hey folks, remember
3 candles = 1 heart, only if you have active friends that can heart trade!
depending on the prop, it should really only be like 7 hearts!
oh, i think we're talking about the plushies. if so, it should be like 4 hearts for one
gaaaahhhhhhh i still cant do the butterfly playtest
curse you, school
Ayo folks
New funny bug to keep an eye out, now the shared space names all appear at once on your screen if someone in the same server as you interacts with them, even if you haven't
I learned that by doing the sapling quest and just turning around to find a massive wall of text 
(Yes imma bug report, just saying)
Textwall addition in Sky? BOOYAH 
Yeah noticed that too. Also when you’re watching a shared space in prairie, the names on the lanterns get jumbled
Just for clarification, there should be a new build coming soon before the mass testing... right?
Yep
I had something similar happen to me, except it was only one of them not all shared space names
thought I just misclicked while walking but I guess not 
Doot
Says bloom cape tweeked too
Prairie social space is bugging a lot due to the shared space update lol
Doot
- Updates for today's playtest (scheduled for today, Feb. 8, at 6pm PST)
- Tweaks to 2023 Bloom cape appearance
Updating rn
Note: "appearance" may not imply the overall design of the cape
but I can pray 🙏🏻
DOOT 
Omg it’s updating at snail pace. Guess i gotta delete some apps 
slightly more tulip shaped but very much the same design
I actually like it now :o but hopefully not for the current price lol
Also diamond WL shapes
Oh it looks so much better
We need some pink pants for the cape 
Refreshed my playstore and thought I got the new doot but nope I got jebaited by freaking doodle jump 
Android jail 😔
oh my god
the shape is a looooot less obnoxious!!
and the colors?? okay we can work with this 
I should start adding yall in-game before the test starts. Need more beta friends
i actually like the shape, i love how the gradient is a bit more obvious but 
Are the wind paths fixed?
Partially? Not in this build specifically though, no
No updoot to Android so far
Doot notes yay!! Thank you sago :D 
good question, but I was busy today so haven't touched them yet 
If anyone is able to test the wind paths bugs and let me know if they can still be triggered, my DMs are open 🙏
I hope we see android doot before the playtest happens
That was a quick update post
Every so often I like to shock people 
jumpscare
I really hope play store gives us the doot soon, I wanna see if I can light my friend's stars 
I love the shoulders of the cape actually looking normal, might actually wear it now in live
You will get doot soon, fear not
I need to see the cape changesssss. Come on play storeeeeee.
the yellow is nice 🙂
I’m in iOS and it’s still downloading 
Ikr, also gives is some synergy with the jellyfish whisperer pants, liking these new changes.
||although the cape still looks off to me somehow xD||
The salami has been left out for too long
seriously i dunno what kind of salami you people are eating
salami 
pepperoni 
Smoked ham
Salami from Ohio [I proceed to be taken off-stage]
Cappicola 
Salomi cape is now yellow?
Has yellow undertones and the shoulders look normal now
The shoulders were the worst part tbh
salami ain't salamied anymore
0.20.5?
No salami? :megamind:
0.20.5 (212111)
four 1's and two 2's
it still looks edible, no complaints there 
Noooo why can't I update
Android takes awhile to receive the update
Being at the mercy of the googly beast 
i tested the wind paths up to 20 the last update and nothing happened
what shrine did you use? 
home shrine
Jaws is ready to do more exercising 
more like going back from a small break, godspeed
salami gone? no more snack 😔
was there any other shrine i could've used that trigger the bug?
try the wind paths shrine
so wind paths shrine, go into the jetstream then tp home try?
anyway, any map shrines happenings, or lack there of, should be forwarded to sago 
Yeah, please do your exercises at the map shrines in Wind Paths.
so to try to trigger the bug, sit at the wind paths shrine x number of times, then go into the jetstream and then home?
Still no Android updoot
I'm no beta tester but that's probably the plan.
The bloom guide conspiracy
What if they’re 3 different people now…
Its giving marigold Splatoon 3….
I tried with wind path shrine up to 6 now but nothing happened
yep, that's how it goes
it's near navigator btw have fun
it is like nurse joy, they are in every forest
Since there's no Android updoot yet, I'm gonna take a nap for now
Wake me up when it's here
How: Summon a krill in my bedroom /j
Sweet dreams! Set an alarm bruh
Count with it
sent back home by the bloom guide in the ark 
You sure if I should dm sago even if there’s nothing that happens?
you've read what they said
do a bunch of them, make it into a neat report, and send 
android doot pls 
Ngl guys... i think i like the old bersion of the cape😂 at least the shaoe of the shoulders
The bloom tree is supposed to b at home right
I had an issue with the shoulders with long hair. It looked weird 😭
Good evening
I has been awoken from a short nao because a friend of mine DMd me saying the updoot in beta is here
I think they forgot they're IOS
I ate the updoot 😔
You got me at the first half :")
I personally adore how the bloom cape looks now, it looks so much better and is so pretty, I might get it in live 
Me either 🥲
Yes it looks a lot better! I love it
Yes please, if you could specify the exact steps you took to try to trigger the bug, and the number of interactions you went up to, we'd greatly appreciate it!
We wish you every failure in your attempts 
Also, for those who have downloaded the update, are you able to send your friends light in the constellations again?
Edit: Thanks!
Yesss the friend lighting is back!

Oh I like the changes to the Rose cape. Much better now imo.
35 minutes until Mass Testing
Still no updoot on android 🥲
No doot 🤖
Enough people must have suggested the multicolor tulip 
Seriously went from least fav cape to one I prob wear a lot.
It looks nicer now! I still don’t agree with it being 110 candles, though.
(If it still is.)
Same! Looks so prettyyyy! And not as dainty as the Sakura cape which is a plus
It’s a bit hard finding a nice outfit for the bloom cape since it looks so delicate. Tulip cape fits a lot of pants
Least update is 211997?
212111

Galaxy S21 Ultra still waiting for doot, anyone else?
android players waiting still
Cape doesn’t have that weird jello bounce anymore? Or am I imagining it.
i dont have anything in beta that fits any of them sadly, I need to get the bellbottoms
Xiaomi Redmi 8 still waiting for doot here 🥲
Android doot?
Praying that android gets the doot before event time 
I’d offer the Android users my update since I can’t make it to the stress test. 😔
give us the doot 
(insert the megaurora scene from the concert here as I offer my updoot)
Tgc needs to delay the krill rave party until Android doot is ready.
Krill rave
It’s a rave for one krill
That’s me. (wheeze)
I will now gamble away every last bit of cash in Splatoon I just got from preordering s3 dlc as I wait for the doot 
....as soon as I send this I get the doot-
Praying for Android folks getting the doot in time 
(when we love katamari comes out on switch i'm gonna disappear for a while sorry)
Pointing candlemaker is a good one too!
Just got doot yahoo 
ANDROID DOOT
Hey me sending my updoot worked! 

Krill raver is on!!!!
Doot is going slow as ever but hey, at least I got it 
i got it too . andriod
Even if you can't make at 6pm on the dot, it still helps to show up at any part of the playtest!
Lets gooooo 
I have to download the whole game again wha
THERES DOOT
DOOT!!! 🎊🎊🎊
I can’t join but I hope the rave is fun! 
(I love that emote Sago 😭)
I really love the cape changes
Might actually buy it now
How long will the stress test last?
About the same as last time, roughly an hour
17... minutes... no... android... doot... 
It's starting to roll out
Sago sharing their tgc-only emotes 
Omg I can light my friend's stars again 
Someone send a video of the rave in #beta-screenshots-videos for me so I can pretend like I was there 
1 hour of krill footage comin right up 
These past two updates are really big, takes so long to download
Ah I gotta charge my phone 
I just checked and got it
Are we going in now?
Thank you for your service 
In 15 minutes
Still didn't get it
1 hour of butterflies being krilled ASMR?!!1!1?
wait it wasn't a promise I was just making a joke 
Doot has been dooted for me too 
krill noises asmr (butterfly's version) (1 hour version) (from the vault)
Press and hold on your app, tap info, then go to app store and it should be there. (sometimes app store directly searching for it doesn't show up)
Didn’t know I missed lighting people so much 😭
You must deliver it NOW!! 
/j
andriod in
Doot the Doot 🤘
you guys know that monterey bay aquarium actually has a lo-fi music video called Krillwaves Radio ? (just sayin 🙂 )
now to see if I can empty up enough memory in time for the test 
DOOT HAS ARRIVED TO ME I CAN JOIN WAIT FOR ME-
can someone provide to me picture of flying crab
What test? What's beta? Where am I?
you must download test suit first
That must be enough free memory!
Now if I could just remember why I needed more empty memory...
MY DATA BE FASTER
Uh oh too much memory has been emptied
I want to log on! Do we really have to wait? 🥺
You can log on, it will just start in a few minutes
orange wifi after meditation
Oh we can light friends again
Also I personally prefer the test tuxedo
i prefer a test dress, gotta look beautiful
8 minutes left right?
Yayyy
What i can understand from all of this, is that making a 3D tulip it's really hard.
hoping to turn into butterfly on the first try this time 
I think that making a tulip into a nice aesthetic item is the hard part, tulips have very easy shape to model, but that shape is also rather boring
Am I going crazy or did the medi text change?
"Do you want to daydream with a larger group of friends?" Is what it says rn
NOOO THE ERROR IN THE LAST SECOND 
I think this makes bloom the first event to be in 3 areas at once
Beautiful
I really like that! Nice to have each in this year
Does the guide warp send anyone else to the start of Ark and not the event area?
I think the teleport previously put you in front of the tent right? and now the guide sends you home
~~Possibly both but I'm not a psychiatrist
~~
The text probably did change, we update strings (text) like this throughout and after beta testing
HEY

1 min my guys
inb4 less than one minute
I may be late, I just started my update 
Oop still stand back up when sitting level 2 and emote 
Going str8 for the krill
I just got home from work. Am I too late?
oh noooo did i miss it
😫 my update won’t download
Can we not hold like last time?
Just go straight there and turn into a flutterby? 🦋
do they post the invite when its available?sorry lol i am new to beta testing
is it an issue if we arrive a few minutes late
Aiaiai I’m your little butterfly
Green black and blue paint the colors in the sky
Would it be too lore breaking having the krill not agro butterflies?
Do you have to complete the ark beforehand?
whats the code thingie(invitation code)
We seem to be invisible to Mr krill :(
cant ride flower trail?
ok theoretical question: i have an always on hand-hold button on a friend when i am close to them, but do you get that with all of your friends if they're in your same 8 person group?
Yay retrived one light :3
is just me or i am seeing the Offering hand button to other butterfly?
I’m seeing hand hold icon with players I’m not friends with. Can’t tell if it’s a bug or a feature 
There are a lot of butterflies at the ark main part yet
this is intentional
oh we cant play music iin butterfly mode
I DROPPED MY CRAB INTO THE CLOUDS BY DODGING THE KRILL NO

...not sure if that's intentional though 
How do you turn into a butterly Im so confused
I havent been on beta since Aurora
Heard that. They did a quick rapid honk and I let go and ran away 
Please Sago pass the voice for us one-handed players 
what is supposed to be happening
Can you post in #beta-feedback about that once you're done so I can be sure to track it! 
handhold should probably be when you are close enough to tap someones name to get it
I have given feedback and reported already
but i will again
kidnaping crabs in buttefly mode is fun
there’s no one here 😦
Terrorizing for the crabs tho.
You're on the most recent build? Android or iOS?
What did the krill do xD
yes I updated, I’m on IOS
just chilling listening to flute music
O no… I krilled my friend that held my hand. Krill don’t see me but they saw them
whoops im a bit late to the party
Hmm I have a question ? Now we can hold a hand during butterflies' events
How many friends can we hold a hand ? I wish if I can hold all my friends' hand in a sever . We will become giant butterfly
I am kinda in love with the new tulip cape
is something special supposed to be happening or do we just fly around
i think we just fly around
Is there any place we are supposed to definitely be, or anything we should try to do?
im not gonna say we're picking up all the crabs and bringing them to the picnic but
Try to be as chaotic as possible to stress test things... Grab a crab or two.
i see you
How do u join the beta 🥲
Fly around, follow/ride the petal trail, be one with the larger kaleidoscope of (npc) butterflies, fly around the spirits, try out different controls combos, interacting with friends, gathering light, etc.
What makes you be able to hold a friends hand? Some I can’t some I can
Are the servers smaller this time around re: server size?
I have to try again, but it would seem holding a crab whilst being krilled in butterfly form makes you invincible?
oh it is really fun to carry a crab as a butterfly. taking them on an adventure
Go to #beta-faq and wait for an invite link in #beta-signup-info ! It’s best to get the Invite ping so that you don’t miss out!
someone brought a crab to say hi to the krill?
Update: lying on the internet again
We are gonna get PETAed.
my butterfly friend is carrying a crab
Lol you can collect the winglights.
taking a crab to the boat
That’s me I’m that person /j
Me lol-
I also found out that if u drop the crab on the clouds it floats mid air and then its a pain to grab it again :")
cant hand hold... elysian dun come.. i going to see krill
Hopefully these crabs can find their way home. Lol
omg, It's so funny see how the butterflies "grab" it, it's like going jumping around 
npc butterflies? neat
...wait thats what they always are
....I almost tried getting krilled with a crab till you said this💀
In my defense, the first time I got bonked I was invincible 
wwww handhold will get krill?? what sorry elysian
I'd like to have my live elder mask in beta but im too lazy lol
I'm fine
didnt expect that
So what are the limitations to holding the crabs? 
krill didn't spot me while i was holding my crab
huh
nvm it did now
fun
< scared to pick up another crab since he's lost 3 already 
irresponsible crab herding
Does anyone else float super high over the petal trail?
Psst Crimson, try again, the krill will see past your crab defences 
Not the petal trail abandoning me and my crab on top of ark, get back here and love us 
bravo whoever is giving the crab a petal trail ride rn tho
theres two, ones my friend and the other i dunno
DROPPED MY CRAB
petal train loves to throw me directly into the walls of the ark
i see a crab on the floor-
truly the best thing that has ever happened
is sending paper boats glitched? I just sent one and it never got placed into the world. but my paper boat spell is on 30 min cooldown anyway
If anyone sees two crabs floating together, that's me 
my friend and I moved every single crab to the picnic but they vanished when we brought the last one 
oop i have been turned into a skykid
Im a skykid again
same
NOOO BUTTERFLY FORM WENT ADIOS D:
I WAS MOVING ONE OF THE LAST CRABS TO THE PICNIC NOOOOO
i was in the middle of a jam session as a butterfly and turned into a skykid right in the middle of it 
Im floating in the air?
I missed the tree in forest. I'm glad we got to see it again.
rip butterflies
anyone else just kinda bouncing in the air rn
I was until I flew by myself
we no more butterfly
I see people going up so fast, how?
The screen went white and I'm a sky kid surrounded by shuttlecocks. ^_^;
(Was a butterfly before)
SOMEBODY STOLE MY CRAB straight up took it and ran
Power of love?
i guess party only lasts 30 minutes 😦
I cannot become a butterfly
I got turned back into a skid and fell flat on my face 
I can't enter the dream. I entered and I see a bunch of shuttlecocks. I leave the dream and see butterflies but I'm not a butterfly.
Serious wind thermals going on. Lol
my crab is currently defying the laws of gravity
dropped it by accident and now it just floats
I sit and nothing happened, I think I'm late?
ok well, i will take this crab home then
Just gave ghostie bubba a kreb 
Yeah looks like the event ended in the :30 minute mark
$30 cape that turns you and your friends into butterflies in the ark soon™
everyone poofed
also hello to the person who found me on top of a half-buried boat and did emotes with me when we turned back into skykids
that was fun
WAIT that was me
I took a kreb on a flying journey
Idk if others could see if they weren’t in the same server
They could
I was also carrying a crab as I flew and I saw others with crabs. ^_^ (I was not the crab thief, I knocked mine over in the cave myself. XD)
The strong updraft near the pond is a bug right?
I found a crab on the desert and took it for a walk around
Then I took him back to its home and a friend of theirs flipped them back up, how nice
wonder how many people saw me leave around 7 crabs at the picnic spot 
Lol you get yeeted xD
oh my 3 of you found me simply from that message, how did y'all know which boat 😭
All these discarded crabs. Like water bottles after a concert.
Lol are you the blue blob I found? 👀
Took my crab (knocked it myself) to krill rock where it disappeared. Couldnt pick anymore crabs, no buttons to interact. Sads.
I lost 2 of my crabs, the first one I picked up got stolen 
Also I love that you can hold hands while in the butterfly form 
Is the crab thing an intended thing o just a happy accident?
Oops
crab thief I was
crabs were the only items skykid can get during butterfly transformation, get your crab while stock last
According to beta updates, the crab and butterfly delegations decided crabs could fly a little bit
If mischief hair then I did it too 
Crabs are given the ability to fly with butterflies and are instantly doomed to be krill sacrifices 
also
is it intentional for us to spawn at the normal ark checkpoint
cause it gets tiresome quickly 
I was very confused at first because of that 
Yes I wish we spawned at the bloom spirit party
I thought that was just a joke...
But I'm okay with crab fun.
I think might be bug, home warp bring u to normal checkpoint... but returning it in ark also bring u to normal check point... only after a few times it brings me back to middle of the ark pond area
I went to forest hub and seeing only the wisteria cape in the guide's tree is making me giggle more than it should 
Well, the actual explanation is that we used to be able to carry crabs while butterfly, but then they removed that, and we got sad, so the devs let us pick up crabs again
btw spells restoked 
I'm happy they let us pick up crabs again, I hadn't thought to try it before they said we couldn't anymore. XD
So... test is over?
||can i go to sleep?||
YEAH das me
When I’m in the group now, there’s a timer at the bottom that’s coming down. It says one hour and 15 minutes right now.
The bouncy cat hair one? Niceee
I bought spells from the ark as a butterfly 😂 hello good sir am just a tiny bug but may I browse your wares
Did it too😭
That's the countdown for the next event but it's probably wrong since it's not actually scheduled
timer refers to the butterfly transformation time... but if the server did not activate... u wont get to be a butterfly
It's funny imagining an actual buffed butterfly lifting a huge crab made of stone and hate.
I was trying to give you a crab I was holding, but it disappeared as soon as I dropped it 
maybe the crab was transported to another cinematic universe
does anyone still think the ||new days of bloom cape|| still looks like salami bc 😩 I will not be buying it for that reason
On live, will we get the teleport option from the days of bloom guide at ark? Cause if i use it it takes me home but i cannot use the teleport portal after that, should I report it? Took video
Every crab everywhere all at once
Hey Ikô, this might be irrelevant with current 🦋testing but any info on the AFK timer change with handhold?
I think it looks way better than before
Still a tad expensive tho
Btw no need to use spoilers in beta chat 
I've just been bouncing with Iko the whole time 
I would even say that it looks good now. Still not as good a previous bloom capes for me through.
Test starts
Beta chat: 
Test ends
Beta chat: 
Hello all!
I like the changes too
Design wise the previous capes do look better, I personally just prefer the color of the new one