beta-discussion

[spark lance]

Tgc has changed iap pricing before, with some patience and feedback it may change again :)

[rugged kayak]

gonna once again post my sob story of i love this game so much, i still play it every day after over 3 years. i know how good it can be. but seeing this happen SO much is so saddening. i just want this game to be good again, y'all.
it's like every time TGC takes a step forward they take 3 or more steps back. i'm just really sad about the state of this game again. sometimes i kinda can't believe i still have faith in this game, but i just. want it to be good again, man. i'm tired of seeing everyone be so stressed and i'm tired of TGC constantly digging a deeper hole for a game that means everything to me.

[tribal walrus]

i like the season passes too, they seem completely fair imo. but all these expensive iaps that often don’t have a function or add much more content to the game is just… it leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[orchid nexus]

ok this is definitely not the response you asked for, but you made me imagine using candles like curlers. I would definitely wear the candle-hair

[indigo lichen]

If the cat mask was still the same as what the iap cat mask was, i'll still accept, but this, why the change it when they change the cat mask to an igc item??

[drowsy shale]

The mask and cape worked better as a pair IAP anyways imo?? Man not to be lame but I’m so disappointed at the moment HHMFJFND

[untold folio]

Disappointed

[tidal bramble]

I think most players would rather have option of grinding, then, if they don't have enough, they buy a candle pack.

[thorn terrace]

at the same price, you can buy ONE (1) marshmellow prop from the game 😂 😂 😂 😭 😭 😭

[feral marlin]

"everything could change in the future" imagine if we dont send feed-back ⬇️
TGC : hm seem like everything look fine, alr the cat hair will be IAP

[fluid quail]

FOMO

[merry ivy]

Im honestly disheartened. Ive put at least 250-300 into this game and its just getting higher with time. I said it was worth it because i wouldnt drop the game until it died but its starting to get to be a bit much with how much TGC changes things around that arent according to the feedback...

[ionic bluff]

these feelings peiple have over the cat cosmetics are valid tgc why. the cat mask doesn’t even look like a cat anymore… let alone the IAP change???
The feedback about prices and greed literally is showing NO improvement. I’m closer to quitting than I ever have

[crude shore]

o oh ma ga

• holds bible
  don't come near me

[dire egret]

fr would you rather buy 20 packs of marshmallows for £20 or a virtual marshmallow on a stick for £20

[prime void]

Exactly. The changes they made to the mask just makes things look much worse than they already do.

[frail kite]

At least the things you pay for in genshin are actually useful and benefit your gameplay

[fervent vortex]

the witch hat hair is more iap worthy than the cat ear hair.. they get enough money from season passes and other stuff can they stop making all the good items IAPs??

[merry vault]

We already have a lot of iap with this event.

New players come and buy the old items every year as old players buy the new ones.

I think that instead of moving an item, you can upgrade the ones you already have to make them worth their price. Not making the "ease move" of switch the items and say that "was already planned".I honestly don't believe that, because if it's "planned" then why even in the notes does it say it was planned to be igc??

[upper elbow]

Sky Inflation of the light

[cosmic orchid]

its sad that the friends I made in this game feel like shackles now

I imagine how much I've spent on the game and how many other games I could've bought instead of investing in this

[tight bloom]

Watch TGC just make the cat hair, the mask, and the cape be 1 pack of IAP

[arctic spire]

Good morning

[sudden ginkgo]

not a beta tester but, imo, i don't really care about it being an iap now, now before y'all kill me pls hear me out, i really wanted to have it as an igc item since it fit better as that and not an iap and i do hope that it changes, and if enough feedback is made, it most likely will but i am trying to keep this as respectful as possible

[gilded tree]

Fortunately this is beta test
Disappointed but it's beta...

Well I am hoping that it doesn't go pricy in live

For what I want to be in live is just cat ears that's all. The hair especially.

[spark lance]

The funny thing is that if the IAPs were cheaper a lot more people would buy them. I'm sure it would be more profit 😭😭

ALSO QUESTION !
Is it true that TGC said they weren't planning to make cat hair an IAP. I've seen quite a few people say that already now.

[rotund cradle]

i just sent my feedback

[split grove]

sky: children of the EA 2.0

[echo mason]

Bet later,

#beta-known-issues

cat ears was a bug on making as a IAP.

[glacial barn]

All I can say, please no expensive IAP. Like, it says a lot when I can go to the mall and find four PC games (with included expansions and dlc) that are combined cost less than the average cost of an IAP

[strong sentinel]

I'm not just disappointed. I'm heartbroken...

[orchid terrace]

I’d be happy to have both the cat mask and the current mask together coming to live, I genuinely like the current ‘downgraded’ mask a lot and I can see a lot of outfit opportunities in it for me

[magic jetty]

tgc 🦀 tgc eck ec🦀

[wicked carbon]

The devs are so evil for this
AND THE AUDACITY TO CHANGE THE CAT MASK TO LOOK HORRIBLE FOR F2PS??????

[cloud crown]

This is such a lovely bonding experience for the beta crew 😍

[urban raft]

No please don’t say that, they are gonna put more gameplay things as an IAP like umbrella

[empty garden]

What are you talking about?

[spark lance]

Why does every cool thing on Sky has to be IAP? Why do F2P players cant get a single cool item? Why does it always has to be a IAP??????

[white latch]

How dare you give them the idea 😭

[halcyon quail]

I agree, season passes are worth it, not that expensive, give a lot of items, exclusive items, some extra candles to make the grind less grindy and they only happen once every 3 or so months which makes it very manageable. The iaps tho

[wispy trench]

THIS!! IT CAN BE PAIRED UP WITH THE STAGEHAND CATHOOD FROM PERFOMANCE

Give us something good for once! We already have a cat hood fitting for the cape + IT WAS AN AP EXCLUSIVE no way people are gonna spend money on some hair without the hood.

[civic fable]

The fact that $19 is enough to feed me for a week 🗿

[verbal sierra]

Same here, I don't want to see sky tip over

[karmic parrot]

Cat packages isn't limited time right?
If not i think your friend still have chance in future

[spark lance]

In which doesn't even give you real marshmallow goodness. It's literally a stick. And doesn't even come wirh its own source of fire. U have to find your own.

[shell tangle]

Now who asked the cat ear hair to be IAP?? Who did??

[trim trellis]

Same here. Any ideas why?

[errant badge]

this is pure chaos

[gilded basin]

even comparing ingame items to ingame items i can get an entire server to myself with the asteroid cape for the same price as the marshmallow rack not worth it at all

[spark lance]

patch notes said it was planned for igc but ktjn came in here just a while ago saying it's been planned as an iap for a week

do with that info what you will

[wanton plover]

mew mew come back

[lusty iron]

tgc?

[winter mesa]

Guess the price for this cat hair..bet it costs ✨ millions ✨

[fluid cobalt]

19 dollars enough for me to buy new pentab

[wild lintel]

I wish the IAPs can just stick around 10 dollars or less … make all IAPs $5 I will throw money at You Tgc

[native kiln]

I do trust TGC enough to know that they'll not ignore us and will convert it back to IGC

[split umbra]

I don't feel I can send Beta Feedback because I'm not an actual Beta tester
But I desperately hope TGC listens to you wonderful Beta testers on this This is exactly what Beta testing is for: getting testing and feedback from a select group of players

[willow sapphire]

Hmmmmm sus

[north locust]

Bro the mask got stripped 😭 they uncatted the cat mask ☹️☹️

[forest valve]

as someone who used to be a big spender (collector's curse) on sky when the prices were REASONABLE, i find myself spending less and less each update (since TLP season). with some of these prices I could buy a week's worth of groceries.

[hushed grove]

this prevented me from buying it to be honest ⬆️

[narrow rain]

omg！why that cat mask became so ugly!
I like the old one😰

[burnt mist]

Bruh you're so lucky. $19 might get two people a meal at McDonalds where I live 🗿

[chilly drift]

We can't get the package price on the bate,because they don't want us to question his price😓

[gray moat]

send it!!! please!!! thats why these channels are open

[limber arrow]

It's just water screen in my screen. Also I hope the cat mask can be changed a bit again I don't like how they look like for now😭

[tropic radish]

sniff sniff
I smell miscommunication

[winged anvil]

Another reminder to be respectful while giving feedback. Don’t be rude. The people reviewing said feedback are, well, people too.

[maiden pond]

You can even if you are not an active beta tester.

[cursive topaz]

it genuinely gets a bit harder to play sky knowing most of the beloved items the community loves is IAP locked, but for mischief itself it is genuinely painful how so many cool items are being sold for so much, there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting money, we all need it and there is nothing wrong from benefiting from a playerbase but this feels like a real stab, 3 (4) IGC items and 9 IAP, does that sound right or nice for the free to play player base?..

[spice zodiac]

like as far as i know 20 bucks is usually the price of an ingame pass/additional content or like powerful items in p2w games, if we're not talking random gacha rolls, not uh.... pretty cat ears that make you look pretty and do nothing else? ⚰️

[mighty hollow]

Oh dont even start comparing to Genshin we know whose taking the cake in those cons and pros when it comes to iap

[hasty pendant]

I left my feedback too, hopefully TGC will listen

I really think that there needs to be more igc vs iap items in events, that way it's more inclusive and rewards the players that are consistently candle running

Starting to see a concerning shift over the years and as a prophecy moth, this really hurts

[rotund reef]

I think the reason being why iap are so expensive is bc Sky is f2p. I notice this happening with a lot of the f2p games.

[little knot]

ろうそくと交換できると思った

[cedar yew]

I am willing to fight TGC for candlo meow meow/hj

[spark lance]

They changed things back then in tlp season, but it was a good reason to do it (literally everything related to tlp collab was iap) but now there's no good reason to change it, I don't think it's going to happen

[sharp geyser]

I can't update...but why? why TGC?

[valid briar]

I’m calling the updated mask the “dark chao mask”.

[zealous axle]

Make sure to keep voicing your feelings. I won’t be buying the cat bundle until it’s changed back.

If we are ignored, sadly…They don’t care anymore. We will only be seen as “🤑” But still, speak up everyone! We can’t ignore this. Our feedback needs to matter

[dusky saffron]

Skykids: THIS CAT HAIR IS SO COOL!!!

TGC: do you like it? Too bad, now you're gonna have to pay for it 🙂

[visual ocean]

Hellloooooo sorry that I'm late to the party and .... Whoa... What happened

[potent peak]

imo the problem is the rising prices, not the prices themselves :(

[thorn terrace]

Mhhhh.....
20 marshmellows irl or 1 smol sad marshmellow?🤔 🤔 🤔
What's better?!🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔

[spark lance]

Cosmetics offer no utility, and are purely luxury items. I get the want for it, I do. And am vehemently not down for this change, but these iaps are what they are - luxury, virtual items. The disappointment is valid just be sure that at the end of it all, you keep paying for your essentials because that is what’s important

[tidal bramble]

Literally, I said earlier I would rather grind candles than miss a meal. That applies on the scale of weekly groceries! I could eat for a week with 20$

[indigo lichen]

TGC PLEASE STOP BRINGING ACTUALLY CUTE COSMETIC'S/ITEM'S AS IAP'S, I'M BEGGING

[drowsy barn]

thats true, I'm just weak when it comes to my friends wanting something and I like spoiling people. The thing is though, she's still underage and probably will be a few years until she can buy something on her own. By then, she probably wont even be playing sky and sky would have much more cosmetics for mischief by then

[tribal walrus]

guys imagine the bunny accessory was released now, it would be at least $10 USD😭

[empty path]

haha pay up for the cat ears now.
also they downgraded the cat mask

[crude shore]

ok ok ok

i went to see it and...

THATS A CAT MASK????

TBH, the mask with the yellow stripes from the aurora season looks more like a cat mask than that thing

[upper elbow]

It could be someone here, it could be you it could be me 🤨

[feral marlin]

the cat mask change to our face "mask" right now

[orchid pilot]

they got so much money from the pass why do they want more from a cat hair 😭

[wary star]

"meow"

[merry vault]

I honestly don't believe that, because if it's "planned" then why even in the notes does it say it was planned to be igc?? It is even suspicious

[carmine thorn]

Me.

[magic jetty]

AHHH GOOOODD NOOOOO 3M COOLDOWN :🚳🚳🚳🚳🚳🚳

[glacial barn]

Chaos, and not the good kind

Edit: 4 minute cool down?????

[cosmic orchid]

actually, by setting the prices that high, the game separates people who can afford and those who cant. And by simple Law of Demand, a lot of people will later on like the ✨ rare shinies ✨ will make themselves afford it,
big sales, it's genius
it's sad

[royal vapor]

I'm okay to paid for it tho

If I were me a year ago Now I understand that a poor things like me just needs to get out, that's what they need

[fervent vortex]

i was so excited for it until it was changed to iap.. i know it can change but damn

[lyric crag]

everytime we request something and it gets popular they'll change it into an iap

[spark lance]

the cat went to the krill spa and got sat on

[ripe sand]

You know what tho? If they kept the cat mask how it was it might’ve been a worth it trade

[neat maple]

GUYS, you know this is beta, JUST PLEASE TREAT IT THAT WERE TESTING IT, CHANGES ARE A THING

Rather than treating it as your live version than Beta

[frail kite]

Nobody, just like nobody ever asked them to make Eden 10x more difficult for no reason, but they like to do that anyway because who cares about player satisfaction?

[orchid terrace]

It’s quite like real life,

When an item at the store is selling very well and is very popular, they will increase the price to make even more money

What a boring dystopia 💀

[orchid nexus]

I suggest a moment of appreciation for beta-chat even though feelings boil over, it looks like everyone is here because they care about the game. Make sure you care for each other as well! Be mad together, be happy together, or everyone have different opinions, but together

[cloud crown]

A shocker, I know. I wouldn’t have believed it either. That thing isn’t meowing it’s choking

[karmic parrot]

Marketing department?

[spark lance]

This is what stood out to me as well when ktjn said that.. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SCREENSHOT of them saying the cat hair was planned for in game currency? I went back to look and I don't know if i just can't find it but some message has 'edited' at the bottom so..

20 bucks usd in Taiwan gets you over a month worth of bubble tea. Like. Bubble tea every single day for over a month. Food for thought.

[signal folio]

Its giving Animal Jam's oppressive class society

[native kiln]

I think a good enough reason would be the backlash they'd face - and are facing now. It might be that they'd add another decent cape or maybe a whisker accessoru and nd make it IAP while taking the ears off IAP, like adding the headphones as IAP and changing the earrings to IGC in days of rainbow

• wow waiting for this to send cause of cooldown is torture 😭

[halcyon quail]

20 dollars can be a whole game with tons of hours of content that's why I don't get it why it's necessary to make so many iaps that cost around that price to maintain the company, but then again I can't say for certain and might be wrong but they could tell us

[wild lintel]

The cat mask looks more like a grumpy old man that a cat… 💀still tgc PLS CHANGE THE PRICE

[vestal crow]

putting all of the iap shenanigans aside, I think a cat call would be cute

[echo mason]

Ya'll the cat cape looked like my old carpet on my room 💀
I suggest why not make the cat items in IGC because there's too many IAP's on Mischief

[lusty iron]

and it had such a specific igc price, too...

[rugged kayak]

thank you for this message, genuinely

[tight bloom]

I remember ppl really liking Cat hoodie from Performance, sadly it's AP locked. So I thought, TGC is being nice by giving IGC cat hair. But of course not. Why would I think a company would be nice enough to give out sought after item for IGC.

[autumn elk]

Its in yesterdays patch notes in #beta-announcements

[glad grove]

THE CAT HAIR WHYYYY 😭 IAP

[brisk rain]

Alright we got our feedback message back. Please make a similar feedback. Ask questions, keep it simple, highlight main points. <#beta_feedback>

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I'll rate down the User Experience so low. I'm not sure what number out of 10. Definitely not more than 3.

1- So many IAPs

2- Only 1 proper IGC item and that is changed to IAP because people liked it.

3- Not caring for players.

4- Not keeping in mind if the items are affordable and enjoyable to all.

Why is Sky losing it's player-group?

Most of my friends quit because sky was not enjoyable to them anymore. Not for me either but I stayed because of 2 people I am close to and sky gives me a platform to spend time with them. Same goes for them.

Sky serves to majority of people who are willing to whale for everything TGC throws at them. Over-priced IAPs , a lot of IAPs, and a lot of bugs and no compensation.

• TGC failed to impress and serve player-base

Getting money in-flow is important but do you provide quality equivalent to the number and cost of IAPs and Season Passes?

• Don't make assumptions, ask your players.

You're not the customer here, neither do your opinions represent the opinions of users nor are they what majority of players think. It is crucial to listen and move according to user.

Are the descisions we take as a game company healthy descisions? How can they be user pain-points? How can they negatively affect the game? Will they satisfy the player-base? Are they actually profitable? If so, then at what cost? Are they limiting our player reach? Are they killing user intrest in our game?

Sorry it's long but important that our feedback is clear and highlights all the user pain-points

[wicked carbon]

God not only did they take away another good decent item from igc BUT THEY ALSO MADE THE MASK LOOK HORRIBLE FOR THE F2PS its so?????
Like why need to change it? To make fun of how horrible free 2 plays cosmetics are?? The change was so unnecesary

[chilly drift]

We can't find out the price of the bundle from the bate because they don't want us to give feedback on it.they just want us to give feedback on bug😔

[spark lance]

Never fails to disappoint when it comes to pricing for cute cosmetics..

[barren narwhal]

[flat furnace]

anyone notice beta feedback is on slow mode

[gilded basin]

no matter how i look at it it just looks bad if it wasn't planned ahead of time then it's a terrible thing to do since a big part of the cat hair's appeal was that it was igc, if it WAS planned ahead of time then it makes me doubt tgc's actually working on their communication issues considering the first mischief 22 update came out after the decision and the change couldve been mentioned to sagomay at any time

[bronze matrix]

It's like a family reunion 😭

[north locust]

The slow mode here got moved up too 💀

[spice zodiac]

whole hollow knight is less expensive than a singular sky iap 😭😭😭

[spark lance]

ngl, they probably could still have made a ton of sales with the pack if they put in more detailed black cat ears as a hair accessory for it

like
can you imagine how many people would buy that just for ears you can wear with any hair
f2p players still win too

[sharp geyser]

I need cat hair in my life 🥺
I don't want to pay for it 😭
I liked the mask before🥺
Please Tgc change it!

[spark lance]

Theres no way of TGC not gonna see our furious mood, the cat hair change begs are YEETING at #beta-feedback , we just need to wait if they will agree to us, since we are the ones left out

[oblique dirge]

Respect tgc decisions on making any cosemtic into iaps,it seems some people being negative on tgc because of that,simply go to #beta-feedback and leave your opinion,and of course be nice and respectful,the devs are people too!

[mighty hollow]

Hey Owly welcome to us complaining
Also whats funny is the time for chat went from seconds to 2mins thats how much chat is blowing up 💀

[sonic oar]

"For what it's worth, the decision to change the cat mask and make the hair part of the IAP pack was made about a week ago, but this build was the first where those changes were implemented. We understand that is not how testers perceive the changes and appears to be an overnight thing."

This is what they said.

[cedar yew]

Bold of you to assume I still care about this messy game that I'm on controlled mode because I'm busting crap on the inside rn and I am willing to fight someone

[civic fable]

Tgc corruption arc epic anime euro beats ||/j||

[hushed grove]

the angy mask represents us rn

[zealous spindle]

As long as players get used to a game this way, they will stay that way. in other games even a reward for taking the time to update. what a bad TCG

[delicate willow]

This is getting annoying TGC is making more and more IAPS and they are getting more and more expensive every event. I used to love this game but now with all the recent changes that the majority of the community dosent like and they refuse to change? What reason is there to play anymore when its clear they want more money then ever

[rotund cradle]

just keep sending the negative and constructive feedbacks about it, we NEED TO BE PERSISTENT ‼️

they NEED to listen to us complaining, they can't ignore the massive amount of reclamations and negative feedbacks about it

[upper elbow]

What if it was me because i remember yesterday i was praying for something becoming a iap and it worked 🤨🤨🤨

[indigo lichen]

tru tru-

[dusk geyser]

the ppl want their cat ears 😭

[orchid nexus]

it's also important for everyone to voice their own unique feedback, not to make it a form, or to campaign for specific changes. Even if feedback expresses the same feelings, it's more valuable when it does so with each person's voice

[potent peak]

yeah. you can buy ALL of the dead cells dlcs for less than 20 dollars. that is so much content

[winged anvil]

and another reminder to NOT drop down the game’s ratings on the App Store 💀

[rotund reef]

welp here is to hoping cat hair goes back to igc for live 🥂

[civic notch]

I’m not saying this to start an argument and I agree that IAPs are way too abundant and overpriced these days, but to be fair, hollow knight doesn’t have ongoing server costs or new content (when will silksong return from the war…) like Sky does

[lost venture]

I wasn't even planning on getting it when it costed candles but I was so hyped because IT'S CAT EARS who wouldn't be excited to see friends wear it, i'm just dissapointed that they made it in a pricy bundle

[prime void]

Not even other games honestly. For the Chinese Sky server, the Chinese company Netease gives players compensations for updates.

[naive atlas]

i still don’t see why tgc had to make the cat hair an iap… the iap cat pack was doing fine as is alr, i’ve had several friends talk about their interest in purchasing the bundle

also the design change to the cat mask,,, i had high hopes for the designs this mischief but it honestly feels like a total downgrade from what we were shown yesterday

[ionic bluff]

🤣🤣🤣🤣I’m closer to quitting than I ever have been 🤣🤣I’m so tired nothing ever changes in this game, for how long have people been asking for tgc to fix the insane IAPs or just general prices of everything in this game? it’s a constant letdown and I’m tired. I wanna quit sky. I’ve spent way too much money on this game for it to never improve

LOLLLL the ohreally bro 💀

[fossil roost]

Then we'd have to use reverse psychology >:3

[cosmic orchid]

if we don't complain now, it will be too late when it comes to live

[muted frost]

I was gonna buy the iap with cat mask and cape but they changed it and now i dont want to support tgc in a state like this :( i was happy earlier

[tame pasture]

Best thing we can do is vote with our wallets. Spread the word to anyone willing to hear beta spoilers and convince people not to buy the pack.

[spark lance]

I’m not a game dev but this is less feedback and more of an attempt to tell them how to run their game. I as a customer agree with this 100% but valuable feedback can be as personable as “I think the new cat mask doesn’t look as good as the old one, and I’m really disappointed in the iap change” and will work just as well

[burnt mist]

I wonder if the opposite works. Community pretends to hate a cosmetic, calls it the dustiest mustiest no maidens cosmetic they’ve ever seen will they still make it an IAP? 🤔

[ripe sand]

Honestly at this point would it be dumb for everybody to just refuse to play the game until they start giving us reasonable things as prices and less iaps? I know this really isn’t possible but I’m aboutta try and pull it off.

[violet quiver]

But that's what reviews are for

[royal vapor]

Just quit then they dont need us

[visual ocean]

Yes yes i can clearly tell that TGC did something that upsets them....

And i see is cat ears...

And holy the cool down used to be 30 seconds instead of 3 MINUTES

[thorn terrace]

I mean, you're not wrong........ but the other games treat the players ina MORE friendly way.
Or even give you more things to choice.
Look Cookie run: they give you a reward daily, if you pay, they double your rewards, and there a LOT of packs that you can buy. Some are expensive, some are cheap, so they can earn more because it's more effordable from more people. They have more players who want to join.
If the only packs Sky offers are capes at 20$, it's not very advantageous for them.
It seems like they want to turn into a p2w type of game

[valid briar]

Everyone say that you hate the cat hair and maybe they’ll give it away as a free gift 👀

[native kiln]

I kinda love how live players who aren't here are absolutely unaware of the great fight for cat ears going on now

oh gosh the cooldown is 4 mins now

[spark lance]

At the end of the day ima still waste my money no matter what price it is 💀 I want that hair

[fervent vortex]

more like days of in app purchases

[maiden pond]

Live player here.

[spark lance]

cat hair looks ugly, it's just the witch hat but without the hat 🙄 /j

[tight bloom]

They have ignore massive feedbacks before and I feel like they'll do it again. And again. And again.

[karmic parrot]

Let suggestions about it I think is great idea!

[wispy obsidian]

Also a live player!

[spark lance]

I'm a live player hee hoo

[fluid rain]

Are ya winning beta?

[wanton plover]

The cool down LOL

[elder inlet]

brb sobbing

[storm vessel]

Trick or Treat

[cerulean pike]

Live player here too
This change is just sad bruh

[orchid pilot]

what if we ignore the cat hair, will they give it back? 😭

[fervent jacinth]

Server overload again 😞

[leaden shard]

Why is cat hair IAP now??

[bronze matrix]

Live players watching our house burn down 😭

[errant badge]

If the decision on making the cat hair an iap item was taken weeks ago, why did the patch notes say it’s currently planned to be igc? The informations are kinda misunderstood right here, so I don’t buy his excuse.
Even if it’s true, why disappointing us? Why raising excitement over a thing that was already settled weeks ago?

[lime field]

All i want is to be a meow meow

[hallow nest]

20 dollars is half my gas money and i just find these prices, lack of compensation (which is needed when you are potentially out of what you want after missing two days of long term grind), lack of qol changes and additions no one asked for to be highly disrespectful at this point. i’ll be in general man i just wish something would change but it’s been years like what are you all doing that you can’t give us favorite emotes over most used lol /:

[lyric crag]

man the cooldown it's like they don't want to hear our feed backs

[tribal walrus]

no, they’re here and rallying with us. they don’t want to go broke on IAPs either. gen chat is pretty much empty rn, compared to normal

[agile hazel]

Can we get the cat to yeet IAPs thank you

[tulip lake]

tgc might hear us like they did with days of rainbow pants tho

[vestal pier]

live players wya?

[frail kite]

I think what really hurts most is that I completely fell in love with TGC when I first played Journey. It was legit my favorite game and I played it all the way through more times than I can count. Then I start playing Sky because I loved their other games, sing TGC's praises for being so amazing, and then they go and treat their players like...this

[north locust]

here! :D

[zealous spindle]

guys, also in #beta-feedback

[upper elbow]

I can feel someone here is crying because of the cat hair, am i right??

[hushed grove]

right, it’s valid to complain and let our messages be heard so that TGC can listen to their player base for once

[wild lintel]

Tgc: give us ur money and we’ll give u the hair you love and want 🙂

[hollow spruce]

I'm so happy that the first seasonal quest is the runaway! I hope the finale is queendom

[wary flint]

cat hair has gaslight gatekeep girlboss vibes

[dapper idol]

You are so greedy, it's just a cat hair.Players have to pay a lot of money to buy it.🤯🤯

[cedar yew]

You guys have to drop negative review on app store? Mine is always 1 star lol

TGC putting longer colddown:

No, TGC, colddown can't shut people up. Fer.al server had 30 minutes colddown and it was still BURNING until it died, killled by the company named WildWorks.
You don't just mute and pretend nothing happened. Something happened, and your acts have consequences.

[hasty pendant]

My advice is to put the feedback and how it affects you personally. If it's concerning, then that's great! It shows you care. Spamming copy/paste messages would just get ignored I imagine.

And remember the devs are people too, and words are powerful in either a constructive or hurtful way.

So please use them for good everyone

[indigo lichen]

I'm actually gonna stop playing sky again-

[novel aspen]

You’re kidding me, they switched the mask with the hair? Ugh. Why do they always lock the prettiest cosmetics behind exorbitant prices or adventure pass which then needs months of waiting for a traveling spirit?

[silver spear]

ok i think 3 hours of outrage and discussion is enough for my mental health and i need a break, see you soon beta chat

[compact jetty]

If the cat mask is downgraded because it's cheaper now,why is the cat hair not upgrading?

[rotund reef]

true we definitely need more igc items especially if it’s mostly going to be iap for newer items it should be balanced out… or atleast that would be the more desirable outcome bc f2p don’t have a lot to look forward to otherwise

[edgy pendant]

Live player gang , all I want is cat ears :(

[mighty hollow]

Umbrella is a necessity for forest inhabitants at least make it 30igc 😭
@a fish the problem with quitting games like genshin and sky is that you worked hard to get where you are now the difference is that genshin you can get your account back if you quit and decided you wanna come back but with sky when you quit and decided to come back (by chance) your going from square one

[fluid cobalt]

Still ||several people are typing , it's been more than 10 mins—||

[rotund cradle]

i thought Sky beta was for us to test cosmetics, seasons and events, not to test our patience and sanity 😰 /j

[signal folio]

20 dollars for a single item is ridiculous. There is a war and pandemic going on causing shortages and making money tight.

[placid iron]

Why are people review bombing the game even though it's on beta 💀💀

[merry vault]

Exactly. It's suspicious

Even that, How many days we wait for this update?? lot of time if you ask me.
It just looks really bad on any view point, because if It's true that was planned, then TGC has a lot of lack of communication inside the company.

If it's a Lie, then It just demonstrates the point of view that they really just want to make money, adding to the amount of iaps that already exist for this event along with the experience with previous events.

It is even strange that such an elaborate feline mask would "regress" to such a simple one. It's like, if they had returned the current version for a previous one, along with the fact that the hair already had a defined price to be an igc

[lost venture]

There are some people are willing to spend more money on candles then IAP Bundles TGC, I'm one of them
I did that for Sword Pants, when it was 200, and I never regreted it
There people willing to buy candles and It's a good deal!

[cosmic orchid]

really feels like we're always at the mercy of the devs in beta
we feel toyed with the contradicting information,
our complaints are in vain if it doesn't align with the marketing ideal of the company, and bugs still persist and we suffer with live players placing the blame on us

[crude shore]

GUYS WE MUST NOT LET DOWN THE UNAWARE LIVE PLAYERS! FIGHT FOR THE CAT EARS, FIGHT FOR OUR BROKE FRIENDS

[halcyon quail]

Cooldown's probably there so mods can properly moderate the server not that deep

[sly quartz]

if the hair was planned to be iap a week ago why did the update notes say it was currently planned for igc

[timid totem]

Exactly 💯

[unique pecan]

saddddddddd doesn’t make burn out better

[cedar prawn]

Please don‘t change the cat hairstyle to a gift bag😭

[ionic bluff]

the : ohreally: people probably not understanding that I’ve been with this game for like 3 years now and I’ve seen no improvement. It’s constant feedback on overpricing or just unfairly redid IAPs and once they fix it for ONE event it happens again on the next. I’m tired bro. I love tgc, especially those who have NOTHING to do with this, but i wish they’d just listen every single time this chat gets heated over a bad decision. Sure it’s “beta, things are set to change” but the fact they’re even thinking about this despite past community anger is just beyond me. I’m dissapointed

[proud sage]

Cat hair!why!!?

[split grove]

thats the problem, theres actually a lot of people who CANT buy it due to issues with income like me, making it an iap and making the cat mask look worse for igc just seems like making fun of poor people :(

[civic fable]

TATAKAE 😭🤘

[oblique dirge]

Let’s don’t be rude on tgc for an single hair,there will more good in game purchase cosemtics soon..

[burnt mist]

There's a term for that. Sunk cost fallacy

[uneven mortar]

I get ping

[ripe sand]

If they don’t change the cat hair to igc I’m quitting sky. And no, I’m not just being salty about this one item. It’s the fact that everything is iap nowadays.

[thorn terrace]

Well, if it can make you feel better (and if I remember correctly) the creators of Journey don't work anymore at TGC. They created another studio of videogames where they realease similar games.
TGC just saw the success of Journey and said "oh, that's nice. It would really be a shame if I use it to make a lot more money using the nostalgia from player, right?"

[lusty iron]

im thinking everyone here is exactly right— they saw the positive reaction to the cat hair and decided to put it behind a paywall

[fervent vortex]

tgc i love yall but seriously this is getting ridiculous. at this point the game is sky: children of the money hungry. we already have the witch hat hair behind a pay wall, so why is this one? some people do not have access to any money.. this is just giving me more of a reason to spend my time on a different game..

[zealous axle]

A game about compassion is turning into something so greedy. They knew it was a good item and that’s why it costs money. Threw some random black mask as chump change. Really insulting. We give you money and this is what you give us for free as thanks? All it does is make me not want to spend money.

[cursive topaz]

where is the fairness and attention for the free to play players in our community? where is their nice looking hair and cosmetics?

[rugged mulch]

its not just a single hair, theyve been doing this pattern for a while now

[sonic oar]

But isn't the entire gameplay loop/grind tied into cosmetics? You could say that nothing is essential for the game and just roll around with moth hair but at the end of the day it's what motivates people to keep playing the game.

[feral marlin]

ikr, all my hard work trying to stay with sky are almost falling now

[civic notch]

Same boat, honestly. They’re basically a completely different company these days, though - something like half the original team quit after Journey iirc (many now work at Giant Squid, who made Abzu) and also. running a long-term game with any kind of monetization does something to a company, I think. rots their ability to see the game as an experience and players as people and not just customers. idk

[split umbra]

I'm really not a fan of this cat mask change either, especially as the ONLY igc item... it feels so angry, and maybe I'm just soft but I personally don't want my Skid seeming angry and mean

[bronze matrix]

Hey y'all reminder that the discord mods decide on chat cool downs 💀 they probably put the cool downs down in here to make sure topics can actually be read

[cerulean pike]

Yes fight for my $10 and 7 candles

[buoyant basin]

I'm a live player too

But personally I think, while this change does infuriate many ppl, I think giving proper feedback, and not an insulting one would be at least nicer. Idt bombing the reviews would really make it any better lmao. All we can do is give the feedback as much as we can and hope they'll change it. I'm not happy about the change either ofc, but I feel that there should be more balance for the iap:igc ratio for events.

[valid briar]

If they could give us the witch hat (version without hair) as an IGC item, that would be great.

[cinder chasm]

I didn’t like the first mask much but the new one looks like an angry potato and less cat-like

[delicate willow]

Its not even just the IAPS that are upsetting, ive been realizing over the past month or two that not only is TGC not listening to us anymore. But in the beta they hide the prices now because they KNOW the feedback will be negative. Every time we as a community dislikes a change they dont want to listen. I know so many people hated the new changes to eden and stuff but did they listen to us then? No, will they listen now? Probably not. All of this is making my motivation to ever play again decrease more and more. Its not just the hair, its a pattern thats been going on for a while. Community likes an item? Make it IAP! Community complains, ignore them. Community thinks prices are too high, lets just hide them until they come out in live so they cant complain. Its getting bad

[zealous spindle]

guys, our complaints also in #beta-feedback ‼️

[spark lance]

criticism or complaining =/= being rude
unless someone is insulting the devs/players themselves or threatening them, I don't think the discussion over the hair is rude at all regardless of what 'side' you're on

[upper elbow]

Helpp my little sister is crying because she realized the cat hair is iap 😭 how can I make her happy omg 💀💀

[prime void]

This ‘money hungry’ critique isn’t just about this days of mischief controversy. It’s the way tgc has been doing things in recent months, hiding the prices, making things expensive, etc. It’s difficult to not feel disappointment.

[inland pier]

I'm thinking here, why doesn't anyone think about this before, before the changes in favor of the commercial force? After all, this is not the same indie studio from Steam that it used to be before Sky

[naive atlas]

maaan there’s already so much iaps for mischief alone. to top it off, ppl are gonna spend on aurora AND purchase previous IAP items from the previous mischief cosmetics (like me, i was aiming to purchase the mischief capes this year as well as the cat bundle.) i still don’t see why they decided to switch the items around. it was fine at first, really! felt like we all struck gold for a second there,yknow?

the change doesn’t have any appeal anymore imo

[tame pasture]

I thought the cooldown adjusts automatically based on the channel's activity levels

[spark lance]

If you take cosmetics out of sky does it still the same game ?

[woeful vault]

I see some people want some beautiful items to be purchased to show their superiority, I hate this kind of behavior, I hope the official will not encourage this trend

[strong sentinel]

Tgc 👏 let 👏 us 👏 have 👏 nice 👏 free 👏 things
😭😭😭

[frail kite]

You know what, that explains a lot. But I'm glad it's not the same people so I can still love Journey without restraint

[novel aspen]

I feel like they saw that people loved the cosmetic and figured that if they switched it out for the least liked cosmetic and said “it was planned like this sorry” then everybody would just take it as they said and shove money their way… which they probably will anyways.

[native kiln]

for me, no :*)

[vestal pier]

same :(my s/o was excited that the cat hair wasn’t an iap but even it if was it would be less expensive if it wasn't in a bundle and he would have a better chance of getting the hair because he loves cats

[indigo lichen]

Bet, if the cat hair actually finally came to be an igc item, it will need a lot amount of candles or maybe hearts

[chilly drift]

Why don't you take the cat hair apart? I don't want a cat cape

[rotund reef]

goodnight everybody! try not to stress too much about the hair!

[spark lance]

So yesterday they said the cat hair is being planned for in game currency but NOW a dev said the change of cat hair becoming IAP was planned a week ago....?

[karmic parrot]

TGC working under pressure already atleast maybe clamdown abit?
Maybe if we don't aggressive they might listen us
Repect TGC team how they can stay strong towards us until now

[lost venture]

If they dare make it hearts i'm gonna be heart broken

[empty path]

oh that hurts to read. im not even one who played journey but
ouch

[spice zodiac]

i probably would've stopped playing a month later out of boredom, im positive cosmetics are a core point of the game like, completion has been my only goal for 2 years

[proper inlet]

Jenova was the leader of journey and he was of sky too, so no

[crude shore]

i agree, if we are rude to tgc, they may choose to not even listen to us

[fervent thicket]

I was really looking forward to the cat hair a second ago too :/ I really don’t feel like buying a whole bundle even though I just want the hair

[proud sage]

I’m so sad.why ?!cat so cuter

[mighty hollow]

We can't forget we're also live players! Some of us are broke too! Lets fight for the broke friends and the broke candle ones

[burnt mist]

Mannnnn it's so unfair we can't read beta feedback. I just KNOW the drama in there is spicier than hot curry in 100 degrees celsius

[winged timber]

In a server with a bunch of friends off sky, we were all excited for cat hair and then we got the news of it being iap. It crushed us

[uneven mortar]

Do i have snide remarks? I dont mention that

[cedar yew]

You see, TGC is a time traveler.💀

[ripe sand]

The issue is, TGC knows that despite everybody saying ‘I’m quitting because of this’ most of the players will come back eventually.

[errant badge]

Wouldn’t be the first time they gave different type of informations about the same thing, y’all remember the mess it was with the elder masks? lol

[hushed grove]

it’s possible for other players to be angry about a single cosmetic, because it’s not the first time that they’ve done this. f2p players rarely get good in-game cosmetics, so…

[slender rune]

I have always thought that it would be inevitable that more IAP appears as events reoccur but it is getting to the point where new players will be overwhelmed. I really want there to be a ratio of more IGC than IAP to be fair for newcomers.

[gray moat]

half of the team is still there but the other half split to do their own things individually (discussed in a GNOMON presentation back in 2020)

[rugged mulch]

the biggest thing i hate abt the bundles is i dont want the rest of the junk for $20-$30 jus for one good item 💀

[spark lance]

I changed to PjSekai and Genshin impact 😂😂😂😂😭😭

[lapis flame]

tgc has a lot of iap item
▪︎2019-pumpkin hair and bat cape ▪︎2020-witch hat and spider cape ▪︎2021-spider web hair, witch outfit, angry pumpkin, rotten horn if there's more I forgot ▪︎2022-(new)cat cape clothing, rabid cat, cat mask or hair and clothing

and by candles:
table
curly hair
leaf cover 🍁

very little item per candles, and a lot of item paid

[merry vault]

What bothers me about this whole thing is the iap pattern that has been given. I thought I was the only one but apparently not.

What annoys me is that in beta we can't like an item because they make it iap.

instead of testing the game, it seems that they are testing us as "potential buyers"

[maiden pond]

I feel like I'm the only person who is neutral about this.

[royal vapor]

The question is not whether cat ears need to pay but they are too good at teasing and irritating players

[cosmic orchid]

rn
them saying it was always planned to be IAP invalidates our previous complaints
then pull the card "everything in beta is subject to change", like really? what's the point of us providing feedback if all we say gets pushed aside
not like our feedback actually does anything anymore, they even hide IAP prices now to shut us up

[dapper idol]

为什么要改礼包😭一个头发而已，你这么想赚钱吗？真的好贪心啊

[lyric crag]

reminds me of a situation of Roblox where they forced our avatars and ignored all the complaints because they knew we'd be crawling back to them

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @dapper idol. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[wicked carbon]

I love the days of whales event!

[valid briar]

I don't blame players for being upset about the cat hair. It's hair with EARS. (I am not a fan of the hair though)

[ionic bluff]

i feel like this games quality has kinda just taken a nosedive. The IAPs are getting more numerous and IGC is expensive. I genuinely feel bad for everyone here who is working hard submitting feedback and testing, or those who are not in beta but are still trying to help out because I’m beginning to loose hope (see my other rants..) this exact scenario has happened like 3 billion times already here in this chat with no actual improvement

[spark lance]

If live players know about this change later i hope they don't blame us again (((;ꏿ_ꏿ;))) witch hair flashbacks

[strong sentinel]

Maybe. But I'm not paying them anymore. Just because I can run around with a bunch of my friends I can't meet irl — the only reason to stay.

[frail kite]

This right here though 💯 Literally said it was planned

[winged anvil]

I wish we can go back to the past, it was so much better then 😭

[spark lance]

"I think this change is bad"
destroys your entire argument with 'all things in beta are subject to change', despite it contradicting what beta is for

[fluid cobalt]

maybe they'll change the cat hair to igc again but... more expensive 💀

[spark lance]

Yeah, cosmetics is a draw, but I don’t want people to confuse what are luxury iaps items as anything more than that. There are affordable and free ways to get your kid glammed up. These prices are still unreasonable though 👀

Tying your enjoyment for sky to cosmetics, I’ve always believed, is a recipe for disaster and disappointment

[strange kindle]

They just wait for it to blow over, then it happens all over again

[feral marlin]

ikr 😭

[halcyon quail]

Honestly TGC should be more transparent about their decisions, tell us why something is changed (even more so if it's a change people didn't like), just saying "beta is not the final version and you should expect it to change" doesn't really calm people. This is literally what's killing a different company, lack of transparency with their community. Tell us why prices are how they are, why the hair was moved to iap etc. At least some people would understand if there's a good reason

[hallow nest]

im not taking a notes app apology from tgc, i just want honest change 💀 i love this game man that’s why i came back minutes after i said i left like i’m not a hater, i don’t personally care about the hair it’s just the principal of them doing weird mess over and over again and getting away with it

[prime void]

It’s so frustrating to see that the same thing that has driven similar games to deaths seems to be happening here too. Things getting more expensive - a less diverse player base - losing its original appeal - failure

[fervent vortex]

i really dont care at this point if anyone gets upset over this.. but can tgc understand that not everyone is at the age to get a job and make money to afford these things?? they already get money from candle packs, season passes, etc. for the love of GOD please listen to the beta players. beta feedback just feels like “yeah we only hear what we wanna hear and ignore you guys” im so over it

[wild lintel]

TGC JUST WANT MONEY

[agile hazel]

They always blame us even though we fight tooth and nail for their benefit

[near portal]

I don't wanna buy Snack kit bcuz i don't need the season candles...
WHY DEV? WHY YOU WANT CAT HAIR INTO IAPs ?
So disappoited

[spice zodiac]

tgc about to be petty and make it 500candles, 200 was not evil enough back in little prince

[naive atlas]

THIS. so much for diversity and inclusivity. do we even have anything that’s f2p this year that looks like it’s worth collecting candles for, cuz if u ask me the mask is something i can see rotting and collecting dust in the back of a player’s closet. looks like a scrapped assembly mask tbh

[spark lance]

For priding themselves to being such an open community and company in general. This is pretty weird info ngl 💀 just be honest. Just say you saw how popular the hair got and wanted to profit off of it

[frail zinc]

IAPs are okay. It’s a great way for companies to make money AND stay relevant.

The cat hair has been highly anticipated and wanted by many many players. I see the financial incentive to capitalize on the high demand. I get it. There seems to have been a mistake with releasing the cat hair as an in game currency purchase and now they’re walking back on it saying it was always planned to be an IAP.

With days of mischief and season or aurora coming (with their own TONS of IAP), I hope they pull the cat ears off the IAP lineup. A lot of kids want this. A lot of YOUNG kids. I understand making a profit but I want people to be happy :(

[burnt mist]

Exactly, what we are asking for is literally crumbs but they want to act like it's a gourmet meal. Like they make so much money but we can't have this one thing??

[split grove]

EXACTLY we can barely afford groceries i cant afford iaps :(

[mighty hollow]

Its a good game
or should I say it was
They have a reason to like cmon man the game has a lot of good aspects

[stark cloud]

People mad about cat hair changes.. little prince IAP flashback

[misty gust]

TGC really just doesnt care at this point, they keep going with the rise of not only IAP items and their prices, but IGC prices too to force people to buy their candle packs. Its truly making me consider quitting. I have over 1k hours on the game on my switch (and i know many players have way more) and i adore the games core concept but the fact is that the greedy way TGC behaves ruins it for me. This isnt just about the cat ears, though i was truly happy that they were IGC and feel like i got slapped in the face with the change. Its about the overall lack of care TGC has about its userbase, despite us being very loyal and many people buying the passes and IAP at least in part to support them. Were not respected and it leads to burnout in vets and the turning away of new players who get overwhelmed by the absurd prices.

[coral swallow]

Why

[neat gull]

how about the donation destruction event? hahaha

[tulip lake]

i mean, sky is still have a lot of kids in there..

[cedar yew]

The most hilarious thing I hear die heart TGC fans say is, TGC is the most considering company

What? They don't even care.
I've seen it so many times, and people who can't see actually need to open up their eyes.
TGC doesn't really care about anything but money🧐💰

[wary flint]

im thinking of how if sky beta didnt exist. excluding the bug testing, is it really targeting peoples most liked cosmetic and change it to IAP? if sky beta didnt exist would the hair still be IGC

[novel aspen]

I feel like every season, everyone’s favorite and the community-deemed “best” cosmetics always get Pass-locked. And don’t get me wrong, it’s nice having the option of Traveling Spirits, but how many Spirits are in the game by now? Hundreds? How long do F2P players have to wait for the “prettiest” cosmetics? And now they just blatantly switch out an adored hair cosmetic for a less favored mask cosmetic, to be locked behind probably about $30 (which now they don’t even show us the prices?)

[magic jetty]

🦀

[oak kite]

And with this, I have officially lost faith in TGC. They've become just like every other game company; money hungry. Don't listen to their beta testers. Release broken unfinished seasons. Hiding the IAP's prices and being sneaky in Beta so that nobody can give constructive criticism on it.

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[cursive topaz]

we’re lightly being robbed of being able to have nice things in game for free and it hurts

[indigo lichen]

it was a good game where not all thing need's candles, hearts and money

[ripe sand]

You know what would be great? If they made it so that you could buy it as an iap OR an igc. It gives them the ability to make money for people who don’t have time to cr or just don’t want to, but also lets people who don’t want to spend money on the game get the accessories.

[gritty void]

im to broke to even buy any IAP Because of college ,-,

[solemn pawn]

Exactly, we're not against iaps, we just want a few good igc stuff, especially something we've wanted for ages

[proper inlet]

Ok, ppl, please, even if you think they'll not listen, GIVE FEEDBACK, seriously, i know many people complain but don't take the time to nicely put it in #beta-feedback
Nothing will have a slight chance to change if we don't do it.

[rapid aspen]

As a paying user the cat hair becoming IAP doesn't matter so much (just to me), but I feel sadder about the mask change. We can't call that thing "cat mask" anymore

[cerulean pike]

Skybot trying to calm us down with random nonsense

[spark lance]

im starting to feel like the f2p players are left out guys atleast we have lazy day's right theres cute cosmetics sti- GETS BLOWN AWAY FROM IAPS

[royal vapor]

They could just make the hair even all in one iap then hide the price, but they did this to consume player's patience and trust and they always did like this arent they

[spice basin]

This!! Make it both iap and igc, for the people who don’t have time and for the people who don’t have money. That way tgc can get money, and f2p players can get it for IGC

[hot aurora]

For real I just paid for my pricey books and the one joy I had this week just went poof🌬️💨

[lapis flame]

there are very few items for candles!!there has to be more!there are a lot of items paid for is absurd !in addition to being mega expensive

[shy knoll]

lmao i tried to and it denied my message 💀

[violet quiver]

I mean of it's igc, candle packs exist

[crude shore]

**GUYS GUUS GUYS

LISTEN TO ME**
now hear me out, from now on, tell that you absouloutly love the cosmetics that you dislike and say that you aren't a fan of the cosmetics you actually do like, so then we can get the cosmetics we want for free/cheaper

[inland pier]

To know why, it will be even sadder, believe me. They will have to hide it to some extent. After all, the company is mainly focused on money.

[flint flower]

I used to purchase everything but after time I find I can only wear one at a time and I never wear everything always. What I thought was a banger now seems Ho Hum. Relax on the prices. Things come and go and free stuff is awesome too. It’s a game not a way of life.

[zealous axle]

When an event comes, I was happy when there were 1-2 new IAP items at the cost of $5-$10 plus 1-2 free but GOOD items. I would gladly buy everything. That’s me spending $15. If people are lacking candles, they could get a candle bundle too!

However, with this change…I’m not spending $20+ on a random bundle or one marshmallow on a stick. We don’t even get a good free item anymore? When we aren’t treated right, we spend less not more.

[heady mulch]

All bro I have to find someone to trend it with me 💀

[tidal bramble]

I thing igc is great. Got cash and don't want to grind, buy a candle bundle! Everyone is happy!!!

[ionic bluff]

it’ll never make sense to me how some of these IAPs get up to 20USD or more, casually. Half the time the candles are just to inflate the price. I’d rather buy it without candles, wouldn’t it make sense that less expensive items would be more likely to be bought?

[frail kite]

This right here is such a good idea. Why can't they just do this? 😭

[spark lance]

With how TGC handled the rainbow beta backlash, they can give thought to this and change it as they did before. Don’t lose all hope but if they do continue with this, my view of the game will likely be a little more negative

[karmic parrot]

Well isn't friendly for f2p but atleast able to buy iap for friends in game as gift still good I will broke in October for sure

[strange kindle]

If nothing changes, then at least you’ve tried. At least then you can count your efforts and point the finger with proof from the community. If we shrug and give up, we’ll never know.

[fervent vortex]

i havent been playing for that long— maybe over a year, and im already wanting to quit. that says enough that one day this game is gonna come crashing to the ground because its literally children of the rich at this point.

[feral marlin]

Dear TGC...
||change the "9+" into "18+" cuz this game is not for kid anymore||

[wild lintel]

Sky is pay to win game 😅 it just sucks all the money outta our pockets

[sonic oar]

The candle packs are even more of a scam though 💀

[fervent thicket]

The second a game makes it hard to be f2p is the second it starts to lose its players

[hallow nest]

i’m gonna say it again, some of the stuff like the pins and the mugs in the sky store should give you the item when scanned for good 🧍🏽‍♀️mainly the wave mug and the umbrella pin irc

[brazen gorge]

Sheesh I just popped in and y’all are very angry about pretend hair

[spark lance]

Bruh out there thinking im bling bling 💸💸

[cloud crown]

Isn’t it like 50 dollars for 100 candles when you can get that many in like a 3-4 day candle run

[strong sentinel]

"Magic of game worlds"! My... Cough
More like magic of "pay to win"

[fluid rain]

Wonder how things will turn out later this week

[cosmic orchid]

we're just shouting at a wall at this point

in before they close the beta channels because it's not "eliciting the feedback they need"

[muted prairie]

One of my biggest issues right now is just the general situation we're in. Everything is more expensive, both in real life, and in game. The IAPS are going to hit people harder, and it feels like they didn't account for fans who live in countries with a currency that's worth less than the american dollar.

Mischief has roughly 9 IAPS and each of the old ones are getting more expensive, it would be a smarter move for TGC to make iaps more affordable because more people would feel comfortable buying them, ultimately making more profit in the end and everybody is happy.

(already put it in feedback but I wanted to share my two cents here)

[naive atlas]

lmao these prices aren’t child friendly anymore, at this point if we want something we’d have to pay with “mommy’s credit card”

[merry vault]

It pains me to say this, but I feel like the game is going down in quality.

High prices for small items, ap that only have 2 or 3 interesting cosmetics, lack of communication with the community and making "excuses" adding to the fact that the candles you have you can't spend on events because, surprise, almost everything is iap.

Feels like... Club Penguin 💀

[slow gyro]

I still don't know how to get the sky beta version ken some please tell me ?🥺

[mighty hollow]

Not that you feel they are
THEY ARE being left out

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[spark lance]

Why hard tho? it's not a competitive game, u don't get any benefit of a IAP, it's completely optional

[fiery shore]

It's not even about the hair at this point. It's the fact TGC gave people hope only to take it away so suddenly

[wicked carbon]

I hope everyone has a good day
Except for the people who decided to make the cat mask look ugly and cat hair iap

[spice zodiac]

literally if those were at reasonable price people would be spending like 5$ without thinking too much about it, 20$ is just a LOT how are we expecting to make any money here, most people are reasonable help

[lusty iron]

i think you have to have an invite link. idk, im a live player

[halcyon quail]

I'm mainly giving the benefit of the doubt here. We can't say for certain only greed is involved in this so I'll entertain the possibility of there being a reason other than that. But as I said, staying silent won't help their case and will make them look like the greedy company people are depicting them right now since if they stay silent the most logical conclusion is that there's no reason behind the changes and overpriced IAPs

[native kiln]

hard as in difficult to stay a free to play player, not hard as in level of difficulty 😅

[spark lance]

tgc is a company, so ofc, they're out for money and profit, but the entire point of business is that you need to please your potential buyers in one way or another if you want them to consume your product

the problem is that tgc has been causing so many letdowns lately, and people are going to be quitting if they keep doing things that upset their playerbase 😮‍💨

[indigo lichen]

It's not even fit for a kids game anymore

am i currently being salty? yes, i am.

[cedar yew]

I've always wanted to quit.
Halloween event and Aurora season came. I decided to stay for longer.

Then TGC pull this out. Do you really think you won't lose anything doing those? Someday, your die heart fans who pay for every iap will see how awful you are.
I did.

[proper inlet]

When it deletes your message it means it got delivered to the devs, it was not declined
If the message said it was declined, it was probably because you Included an rude or curse word

[wary flint]

fr im concerned about the clueless young kids spending money on IAPs not knowing their parents credit cards are being used

[spark lance]

youre right :(((( ive been playing sky for 3 years now but i only had passes, not even iaps :((

[merry ivy]

At this point i should just dedicate my first credit card with a balance to sky iaps /hj

[spice basin]

Im literally being held back in high school and don’t have a job, tgc bleeds me dry 💀 this game used to be such a comfort, I could socialize without talking. But now I don’t even know anymore

[brittle raft]

its been exhausting to watch this game fall off so terribly, the way TGC just refuses to listen to player feedback and outrage time and time again. The game has been less fun and more constant grinding for candles as my friends leave it due to how tired they were of the way this company treats their players.

I just hope that this one time, just this time. they actually listen to what the beta testers are trying to say, because I have honestly noticed a trend over the past (almost) two years of playing that doesn't give me hope.

[upper elbow]

Types of headaches

Migraine
Hypertension
Stress
Cat hair becoming a iap

[sharp cliff]

Literally got million of donation recently not so long ago, and I strongly believe, they are making a very good amount of money from iaps even if they are from past events but the heck they doing with all this money? Just making content? They can't think about f2p players, they can't fix the bugs in their game, they can't compensate people well, they can't even communicate. At this point does they really have to make everything iaps when they know a collab season is coming and many people or most wanna spend in that particularly. They should once put tgc in shoes of player. They should be focusing on how to make their customer willing to play, spend or even attract towards game. Just gonna be; if most anybody play the game are f2p players because they have to grind for things even if cosmetics are in igc.

[cinder chasm]

Idk I wish they had just mentioned in patch notes that they were planning to switch the mask and hair in the future so people would be in less of an uproar. Just like they did with the stand in items like the guitar that would be changed later. Instead the community dev gets annoyed at people for ‘not understanding’ that things change instead of being sympathetic to the disappointment and annoyance about not being told of the plan. Everyone knows things change but people will still give their feedback over what they see as lost potential. This whole thing could have totally been avoided with a quick mention in the patch note but reading the stuff from the community dev made it the opposite of smoothed over for me.

[barren moss]

this sounds a lot like a past seasonal collab that had to do with a certain princeeeeee

[cerulean pike]

It's been so bad that that's been my plan since I first started thinking about bank and saving accounts💀

[shy knoll]

no, it’s not a competitive game, but this game is HEAVILY influenced on cosmetics/items, and without those barely anyone would continue to play. sky is a repetitive type of game, where you go through the same things over and over again while meeting new people, if they don’t host events that can be catered to both F2P and P2W players, then the game will simply lose players. the games decision on removing cat hair from being free basically reared down hope for F2P players that want something new in a rerun event. there’s 9 iaps, yet 3 free items. they can atleast give us this hair.

[karmic parrot]

New design Cat mask -

[frail kite]

Literally. I have the $100+ umbrella and you can barely even see the thing in game 💀

[neat gull]

[spark lance]

It is uncanny how identical these comments are to almost every other iap blowout lol it’s almost creepy

[wild lintel]

$10 dollar U.S is 68 RMB😅 $100 that will be 6800 RMB 👁👄👁💧

[bright portal]

I would honestly hope they at least bring the hair back to igc and put it at 150 candles rather than putting it back into the iap bundle

[winged anvil]

Which umbrella is that again?

[swift yarrow]

tgc please let cat hair be in game currency item, it's one of items that make me feel so excited and happy about sky game :(

[proven radish]

tgc just added my 99+ reasons to quit sky

[lime plover]

Lightseeker

[untold oxide]

i feel like at this rate someones just gonna make their own version of sky but without the incredibly expensive and numerous iaps

[sterile plinth]

@feral marlin Please don't joke about topics like these.

[proud flax]

TGC, do you want to put all the very popular items that players like into the gift bag? Don't forget that SKY is an 8+ game.

[pure sleet]

Woke up and find the cat hair is moved to iap, now me and my homies are sadge :,,,)

[hallow nest]

the WHAT dollar ⚰️

[stark cloud]

How about change the cat hair from IAP to 999 hearts 💀

[silent dagger]

The views are either tgc is a capitalist pig or tgc is just a normal profit run business 😂

[royal vapor]

Look what the did to players who test their game for free and pay a lot in live arent we just a 🤡 ? At least I feel like I've been fooled all the time

[ionic bluff]

next elder hair 💀

[strange kindle]

It’s a cycle of TGC not listening, waiting for it to blow over, and making the same choices again and again. A lot of people here have seen Sky’s history literally repeat itself, it’s insane it’s gone on this long

[novel aspen]

I’m just hoping that TGC rescinds this decision and gives us some answers for the numerous things brought up by everyone.
Personally, I was really looking forward towards the cat hair cosmetic, had a bit of giddy excitement and so many outfit plans because it was absolutely adorable, but spending around $30 on a pack just for the singular cosmetic I want isn’t feasible for me right now

[naive atlas]

this.
it’s giving sword pants IAP moment
its giving juggler arrival + sword pants schedule in live
it’s giving cr burn out
it’s giving tlp ult pants was once IAP

literally the same thing different event/season

[molten orchid]

How to qualify for the test

[noble whale]

if you prefer the old cat mask react with if you prefer the current one react with

[spark lance]

It's the real life umbrella that comes with a star pin that u can use to Give ur sky kid an umbrella. It's invisible and u can barely see it.

[mighty hollow]

Thing is tgcs main incom isnt only sky, they have merch and also other games you need to pay to play like Journey and flower their treating sky like its their only source of revenue

[dusk geyser]

THE REAXTS HELP

[inland pier]

Yes, I'm not saying that greed, but that the meager truth will hurt more, but tgc is not one of those companies that will tell you why they did it, because it can affect even more anger. Plus, they somehow quickly changed their position, or were already planning to change their hairstyle to iap, but they should think about the consequences of those items that the fan base loved

[violet quiver]

I mean they sell the game on seasons and events but don't give u anything for candle running, its just haa

[spark lance]

Imagine if they made cosmic manta cape an igc and then changed to iap 😂

[spark lance]

Yeah, but everything from past seasons comeback free eventually and u can have very cool outfits being completely f2p player with the ts system. IAPS are completely optional, u can buy em or not, u can continue playing without buying any IAP, so I don't really see the trouble

[indigo lichen]

From now on i'll just call the days of mischief days of needing to buy IAP's to be able to get good cosmetics

i'm not kidding, i'm actually gonna call the event that

[burnt mist]

A lot of companies do that. You can't slaughter the cash cow yet. Sky probably does bring in a lot of revenue

[cosmic orchid]

they never consider children, it was always about the children's parents' credit cards

thats just logical at this point

[strong sentinel]

Samsara...

[empty path]

ah yes, days of mischief , also known as my yearly sacrifice of my wallet

[sly quartz]

maybe itll be changed back just more expensive? all of this is really concerning, just the fact they even concidered taking away an amazing well received igc item for free to play players is scummy, they barely even get anything in the first place!! , they only throw the non hyped items in the igc bin and take any good well hyped item up in the iaps

[steady pond]

mmm yea now this is the beta chat ive missed for so long

[vestal pier]

sky: children of the credit card

[cursive topaz]

as a live player, suddenly im contemplating only getting the aurora AP and just not getting anything from lazy days or mischief at all, i feel so incredibly cheated to the point i’d rather just not get the cool stuff i thought i wanted after all since this cycle only feels like its continuing.

[dark garnet]

sky money of the light

[upper elbow]

Hey TGC why not just make the cat hair igp so we can't get mad anymore 🥰🥰

[barren moss]

the little prince beta testers looking at the current predicament: well this is certainly not my first rodeo😜👍

[gaunt oracle]

Why change the cat's head, my cat's head,😭😭😭

[brazen gorge]

Beta chat is just cancel culture

[rotund cradle]

if they continue doing this we'll have no other way to make they listen to us unless if we start doing the thing with the reviews on Play Store, maybe like this they'll start listening to us 💀💀💀

[spark lance]

Why do we have to wait half an hour to send a picture in #beta-screenshots-videos 💀💀💀

[spice zodiac]

bruhhh i demand compensation for this whole emotional damage we all had to go thru rn, free cat ears, u get cat ears, i get cat ears, everybody gets cat ears k thx

[cedar yew]

No cause if someone out there make a game similar to sky and less pricey you won't even see me here anymore

Ok maybe I'll still talk about TGC until they actually listen but say goodbye to the game I will

[wild lintel]

In beta it’s free but what about most of the live players? Plsss tgc , make the cat hair a IGC and not THAT expensive… also pls make the older items cheaper…

[spark lance]

They have listened before, with little prince and the rainbow event. But people are either new or forget that during their frustration. I don’t fault them for that though, the change does still sting beta or not. But I’ve never been as easy to get swept away by price changes, because it happens a lot

[bright portal]

We keep a template for ranting in a notepad to be copy pasted to the next iap blowout /j

[boreal shell]

Where can I get the cat hair?

[neat gull]

sky money ahahahaha

[smoky sleet]

what did the old cat mask look like and where can i find the image

[proper inlet]

I disagree. Sky is more of a super nice social platform and a place made to be enjoyed, but people are overwhelmingly obssessed about the cosmetics
I always enjoyed sky like that, it's not cosmetics based, it's experience based, cosmetics are litterally a way to support the devs on the AMAZING work they do on seasons, the platform itself and on the visuals and music
Cosmetics are OPTIONAL and don't make the game pay to win in any way
It's pay if you want to
I can't play sky rn because my phone is broken, but i would do anything to just enjoy sky as it was mean't to, make friends, enjoy the experience and it's actual content, it's emotional and calming

[karmic parrot]

I wonder how stressed chat moderator team is to deal with burning chat ?

[green jackal]

I bought the iap bundle yesterday (when cat hair was 66 candles), but they changed today, so, where can I find my hair?

[crude shore]

DO IT FOR THE FURRYES, DON'T LET THEM DOWN /hj

[frail kite]

No, beta chat is tired of being treated like dirt by TGC

[spark lance]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[split grove]

dont let me down tgc

[tardy hawk]

speaking of— small nitpick but i really wish we got free things for events in game. not just it costing candles, something fully free. maybe a little hairpin, maybe a bow tie, just one thing small…

[small tiger]

[muted prairie]

Yeouch. This really just hammers my point in - TGC doesn't care about audiences outside of America, and even then, still very little about players within the states because in and out - this is absolutely outrageous.

[native kiln]

my first iap was the little jelly animal on the head and I was so exciteddd!! Then I started spending more and more, and the joy of getting the items reduced exponentially, to the point where now where I no longer want to buy the IAPs I love, and I just watch from afar as the situation gets worse and worse ( TGC usually listens to feedback with IAPs vs IGCs tho! so im stll pretty hopeful )!

oop sory for the ping, forgot to turn it off

[river socket]

Alr folks what is going on

[winged anvil]

Indeed it is not. How unfortunate we have to go through this twice 💀

Also to Mei: yes but ppl like dressing up it’s just fun like that I like dressing up

[shy knoll]

yes things come back from seasons, and most take forever to grind for. i can completely see what you’re arguing for, but what everyone wants isn’t so many IAPs pushed out at once that are ranging for 20-30usd when it’s completely unnecessary, they are optional to buy, but that doesn’t make it right. event items; however, do come back, but they come back as IAPs, which makes it even worse. there is NINE IAPs for one singular event, which ranges to 100usd. one of the huge problems is that they changed a perfectly fine free item into a (probably overpriced - estimated 30usd) item because it became popular. now you could argue that because it became popular it got turned into an IAP, but so many other items are popular that they don’t turn, TGC is just repeating bad mistakes.

[tulip lake]

maybe they thought that furry is rich to buy cat hair with money 💀

[shell tangle]

Aurora must cost a mil for this collab

[mighty hollow]

It'll bring in more with 2$ and even 10$ iaps because guess what
If its expensive in my country Im not buying it
Oh its 14$ bet sure why not!

[fervent vortex]

yeah cancel the damn iap culture

[ionic bluff]

hi sweatpants road tgc changed another item to IAP unfairly again

[spark lance]

Imagine you've been playing this game for so long and a rich moth who doesn't know how the game works buys all of the iap items that you want. (no hate to rich moffs tho)

[pure sleet]

I have an idea, every time there is cute cosmetic, we should just say its bad and ugly instead so its thought to be poorly received :V/jk

[inland pier]

Culture of iap? Well, I'm for it

[noble whale]

DUDE OLD CAT MASK IS SO GOOD I HATE THE NEW ONE

[halcyon quail]

We are simply voicing our complaints, some might take it a bit too far (like an attempt at review bombing) but I'd say most of the people here are being respectful and just voicing their feelings and demanding explanations as consumers that they are.

[strange kindle]

That’s a fair point, I do often forget what they have done for players in the midst of revolts. It’s such a back and forth lol. It’s good to make ourselves heard, but also good to not lose ourselves in it

[sage mirage]

😫 😫 😫

[mighty crane]

can we have separate cat ears so any hairstyle can wear it o)—(
I already sent them feedback, anyone help send them too pls 💀

[spark lance]

Thank god is only a cat themed iten if it was a wolf themed one people would see red

[steel anchor]

Kibbyboys riot!!!! F2P have gotten robbed so much

[cosmic orchid]

I'm excited how they'll ruin it more at this point

[indigo lichen]

Nah, i give up, bye bye sky if cat hair not an igc

[woeful vault]

I love the new season though!

[coral swallow]

I'm so rage quitting rn

[fiery shore]

OH MY GOD FR!! The old one reminds me of Bards Against the Throne

[feral marlin]

omg my friend said they make this game just for money 💀........

[wary flint]

ive been thinking about that! but imagine if they thought its actually bad and remove it entirely 💀

[burnt mist]

They don't care about us either. Not everyone here can afford it either and I agree it's incredibly outrageous

[cerulean pike]

Literally turning into krills rn

[narrow mason]

Keep in mind y'all this is like one IAP so far for this year's version of the event. That's not too bad. It does suck that the others stack up but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper elbow]

I mean if you don't want the community get angry and get mad at tgc then just make the cat hair free, am i right??

So that we can have peace.

[fervent thicket]

At this point, my only hope is in next week’s traveling spirit🤷‍♀️

[empty path]

thats not the point. its the fact they constantly pull this stuff up

[cosmic osprey]

New cat mask makes us appreciate the old one more at least lmao

[barren moss]

y’all they’re gonna make us start paying for air just u wait

[knotty shale]

Shoutout and a warm hug to all the beta testers. It's a job that requires a very strong amount of dedication, patience, analysis, and A OH SO ETHEREAL AND HOLY AMOUNT OF TOLERANCE.

Y'all are good.

[old carbon]

Dear, TGC

Most of us are (jobless) minors.

Sincerely, players

[lusty iron]

those r the only reasons i still have hope

[orchid nexus]

it's still important to treat everyone here with basic human decency and respect. talk about your reasons for disliking a change, don't just vent anger. in spite of how some people feel, this chat isn't "us vs them" and there's no constructive use for framing the discussion in terms of antagonism

[fossil roost]

Honestly I agree, pay to win? What are we winning? The cosmetics are a bonus to the experience, and optional. Playing sky for me has always been a way to meet new people and enjoy the game as it is.

[brazen gorge]

Maybe if we propose an action plan for better feedback formats and communication, we’d actually be going somewhere. Seems like this democracy thing ain’t working out, or at least that seems to be how a lot of us feel. I’ve been suggesting my plans for better communication and feedback plans, I suggest you all do the same

[spark lance]

What do you mean by that. Do you mean the people here giving FEEDBACK and criticism in the BETA and TESTING channels? ⁉️👀 yk.. what TGC encourages us to do or well used to. Ahem. No one here is attacking them but in my opinion I got the vibe that they got.. defensive ? Like..

[magic jetty]

t.. the third, actually if you count the old cat mask...

[neat gull]

Hahahahah, guys, you are beautiful!!!

[spice zodiac]

we have to call it mid, not bad, keep it subtle so they don't remove it and they don't pull it above our heads either 💯

[high sun]

Kinda sad to see too that tgc keeps adding stuffs like cosmetics and props meanwhile the the current bugs in android and other live players having a rough gameplay which lessen the fun. Sorry I just wanted to say that quite some time now

[wild lintel]

My dad literally told me to quit the game when I told him the whole thing 😅 my dad even told me to not join the real life sky meet up event

[steady pond]

what really gets me is the fact that they didn't just swap cat hair to IAP, they also changed the IGC cat mask to be way less detailed than the initial IAP version lol what's up with that

[smoky sleet]

😭 ive never seen the old one can somebondy send an image

[hushed grove]

I have a feeling TGC will care less either way if half of the player base is planning to retire old and new players come and go. majority of the newer players are most likely going to be willing to spend money on the game, because they’re not going to be entirely sure what they’re going to put themselves in, but once they perceive the overall situation, everything will repeat again and again

[spark lance]

At this point I’ve accepted people will lose themselves in it hhhh, it’s hard to fight against a strong wave of a community mob. But no real harm done in venting, usually

[green jackal]

I think, tgc should fix more bugs, do more, and put in iap at reasonable price, coz like most ppl playing sky are those who are not of age, or not really working

[proper inlet]

THIS

[spark lance]

That's what I'm saying too, it's just one IAP, it's not the end of the world, the game is mostly for social purposes, IAPS are optional

[untold oxide]

cant have in sky

[prime void]

Exactly. People really are just saying, as consumers of TGC’s products, they dislike a decision and this decision makes the company look money hungry. How’s that rude?

[cedar yew]

I don't think TGC don't know what they're doing nor that playerbase has been dropping.

That's it I'm going to play dst and other games that don't have expensive cosmetics I'm serious when I say sky is the most expensive game I've ever seen I PLAY GENSHIN IMPACT

[tulip lake]

dude like fr ive been saving a lot from art commissions for bat cape and burned out a little, i was so happy for free cat hair, and then this....im...broke...:

[cosmic orchid]

I have to remind myself everytime I boot up Sky that 's target demographic are the rich, children with rich parents and whales
we're just leftovers to scrap the crumbs, nothing more

[dire egret]

not Genshin charging £180 for a guaranteed 5 star of your choice…

[noble whale]

dude watch them release yeti to try and quell us

[crude shore]

with the money some people spend on sky, you coud get a nintendo and 5 other games

[oak kite]

I've lost so much faith in TGC these last few months. I seriously doubt they're going to listen and put the cat hair back as an IGC item. The money is just too good for them. They're too far gone now. They're not a "tiny game company" anymore.

Well, I lasted almost a year on Sky. I should have known this would have happened.

[wind dawn]

Do the cat prob still send skykids flying? I hope they dont change that

[halcyon quail]

I get that iaps are necessary and yadda yadda but I doubt they'll go into bankruptcy because they make one item people want free. Come on, give us a treat

[river socket]

4 MINUTE COOLDOWN, WHAT RIOT HAVE YALL BEEN DOIN

Ah, TGC making more profits from us, not shocking lmao, there has been a change in objevtives a looong time ago

Honestly, i would complain but ive done that before and not much has changed

Just stay civilized and dont get too angry, angry users dont get listened (can talk from self experience too)

In a nutshell it is what it is

try to find enjoyment in what you have and can do and if u get angry over some fancy pixels which are behind a paywall then well, rethink what you're playing

Now, i see why yall angry tho but sadly, being too angry here its not productive

[lunar loom]

I wish IAPs (not season passes) could be bought for candles too even if they cost a fortune

[coral swallow]

As a 12 year old who doesn't waste money, I agree
(Waited for 4 mins to reply )

[wooden spindle]

[final spire]

Do have money, but feeling like I’ve been tricked because they change it afterwards😅

[kindred prawn]

we're not saying whether the problem is "its one iap", we get that iap items are optonal and everything. we're trying to say that its unfair that tgc first marketed the cat hair as igc item and then switched it to iap item. this is disgusting imo

[lime plover]

You dont have to recharge if you dont want to?? You can just grind events, maps and the culus

[vapid saddle]

live player here, been around since switch release, this was gonna be the first time i actually bought an iap that wasnt related to a season (bought all the tlp iaps, thank you for that getting changed a bit from beta ) -- but man. seeing the hair get swapped into the bundle and the mask get changed literally killed all that excitement for me. i had full intention of buying both cat iaps because i thought they were cool, and while i love the cat hair dearly, this whole situations left a real sour taste in my mouth and is genuinely making me reconsider spending more money on this game if its gonna continue to treat its beta testers like this.

i hope someones listening to all this because like. man. whats the point of beta if it all gets shut down with a "too bad, you dont get to see the prices anymore, too bad, we're changing things and making players upset but you cant be that mad because its beta so you should be prepared for it", and so on and so forth.

cosmetics mean a lot to people, even though they arent "necessary", it can be nice to have a little something cute here and there, and considering theres not much else in sky other than buying and getting more currency to use, i think its disingenuous for anyone to like.. . disregard this as not a big deal or anything considering the surrounding circumstances

yalls voices are important and i will seriously be disappointed if nothing more comes out of this. i sent in feedback as well, just hoping to be heard a little. hope everyone can feel better in any case.

[stark lake]

this attitude can become an issue though
like what happens the next season after? will you say the same thing?
becoming complacent just makes bad practice get worse

[spark lance]

if more and more ppl become familliar with this behaviour and quit, ppl will learn sooner what it's like

shame it's like this in the first place though, tgc's communication skills are so bad that they did not even address the situation when they announced the charities for days of rainbow last year, hid them, and switched one out for another
people called them out on it, but we got nothing at all

this keeps becoming worse and more frequent, unfortunately

[fast skiff]

I mean everyone is free to make their own decisions and decide how to play the game, but that doesn't take away from the reality that other players may not share your preferences.

[royal vapor]

I'm disappointed because TGC doesn't just treat players as wallets, they treat players as fools
||Quit earlier, happiness comes earlier||

[bright portal]

We haven't meet the 10 minute cooldown yet

Yet.

[wanton plover]

على شاطئ المطبخ نظرت دجاجةً

[strange kindle]

The cycle continues haha. The mob mentality can have a serious hold, absolutely valid concerns and discussions can escalate so quick

[inland pier]

If the game was not sharpened for collecting, then it would not be so insulting

[empty path]

they had a whole cool model for the cat mask?? and scrap it for,, angry moth???? what

[gaunt oracle]

TGC: you can't be so selfish. You can turn any clothing into a gift bag when players like it. This is wrong. This behavior seems very selfish. In this way, you will lose more players who love to meet😭😭

[frail kite]

Exactly. Why on earth would you change something to look worse then make the more desirable cosmetic IAP?

[finite crown]

Well i was many times very long ago wrote at feedback many things are expensive and should make it cheaper then more people can afford it , and also they should focus more on bugs , story and they should add more actives with friends and add new realms and more story and not just making seasons but they never listen.
I don't believe anymore they listen any ideas or things what can help to game

[muted prairie]

it looks just like me after the update ! 💖 FURIOUS

[spark lance]

okay where can i find the new mask? im worried about what kind of beast it is 💀

[spark lance]

It isn't OUR job to figure out better feedback format and/ or communication. We are literally voicing our options 💀 right.. now? We are communicating what's bothering us right now. This is what we are supposed to do. This is what beta is for. What the feedback channel is for. Now it's on the company to listen and take action. We can't do anything. And if they won't then there's no reason for beta. ‼️

[green jackal]

Replying to that player who brought up Genshin:
Well genshin its only tiring to explore stuff, the gacha rates depends on the person's luck. The skins they release is like, 4 star u can work for it, 5 star's one in a big while. Its not like sky, they always release seasons, season iaps, iaps very often. And the price is going way higher then the iap's worth.
I heard that sky will hear players' suggestions about the prices, but that does not mean that if u see the cat hair popular, u put it as iap. Its just not fair and inconsiderate

[cerulean pike]

They knew what we'd look like once they moved the cat hair, and they put it in the game for us to wear while we watch it fly by us

[winged anvil]

so many people saying they joined around switch release… I feel kinda old… but anyway I agree

[spark lance]

It is disgusting, but I see some people here acting like they're not going to be capable to keep playing without the hair being igc, like c'mon, it's just an accessory y'know? I'm more concerned about how they down graded the poor cat mask, that should be fixed 100%.

[orchid sinew]

sky: children in debt

[kind pilot]

And we who play without being able to spend in the game only receive crumbs, event cosmetics are increasingly scarce and without any shine and novelty

[lusty iron]

nastymold has a video on the update

[barren moss]

i think it’s the idea that tgc changed the hat to iap at whiplash speed, giving no warning as to what would happen even though a lot of people were looking forward to it. the least they could do is address it and apologize, and more smartly change it back to in game currency

[proper inlet]

You are playing a game about making friends and enjoying the experience
If you play for the cosmetics, what are you playing lol? Those are just a way to support the devs, please read the message i replied to.

[mental pendant]

this is just too disappointing.

[winged gust]

Before I send my feedback, would anyone who's done so already be able to tell me if they have a cooldown there? I have two pats to send together ⚰️
I've constructive feedback as a lower income person ✨ /gen

[hushed grove]

exactly, why can’t they leave it as it is? they literally did the mask so dirty

[unreal owl]

days of summer umbrella iirc

[misty gust]

honestly its not even just about the cat ears, its an issue with the management of the game and its economy and im most likely not buying any passes IAP or anything anymore & only logging on once in a while to hang out with friends, the thing i actually enjoy about the game.

[wispy glen]

Going to scr rn like nothing happend

[naive atlas]

isn’t owning a cosmetic technically also part of the experience in sky? i mean, after the first few steps into the game we already are greeted with the opportunity to customize your character by the praire closet.

to be able to own something and have the opportunity to dress up using a specific piece of clothing always makes me happy. while it’s a bonus, yes, it doesn’t really help that most f2p options feel like an after thought for all the IAP ones. I just want my friends to have something that feels premium and a good thought that doesn’t come with money every once in a while, for them to experience the same joys people who can afford to purchase IAPs do.

[muted frost]

I dont think the cooldown is too long, mine is finished. Prob a few minutes at best.

[wild lintel]

HALP I WANT THE CAT EARS HAIR … AND I AM BROKE

[odd kernel]

I think it should be changed back

[sick yew]

it was like 6 min for me

[cosmic orchid]

well rip this argument because "Everything in beta is subject to change"

we can vent all we want but there's no denying that they'll use that card to invalidate us everytime
is utterly sad that we always get treated like dirt

[noble whale]

i think it says in the updates that it’ll change, they fr tryin to get rid of anything good

[dire egret]

that requires upwards of half a year of grinding day in day out doing exploration and commissions…say what you want about sky but Genshin is daylight robbery. They barely even give out good rewards (last anniversary had a single ten pull) and it is so money sided. Constellations on characters can alter the play style and effectiveness of the 5 star (xiao c6, etc) and don’t get me started on the skins man

[halcyon quail]

I call that, ✨foreshadowing✨

[brazen gorge]

Respectfully, I disagree if you feel like you’re not being heard, then find a way to be heard. That’s how I like to live haha

[spice zodiac]

it's not just one iap tho this has been going on for sO long, smth to understand is that people are getting bored of the game, customization is the only thing most people have to do anymore and it is SO INCREDIBLY LIMITED, new players literally run away like bugs and older ones are also getting tired

[zenith mist]

ppl care so much about cosmetics because thats all tgc cares about and after a while there's barely anything to do outside of getting them 💀

[spark lance]

I like the angry mask
Not as a substitute of cat mask but as it own
I don't think it can be said to be ugly. It's just simple if wasn't for all this commotion about the prices change people would actually like this mask very much u_u

[coral swallow]

Me in the Philippines 5$ are 500+ pesos:

[spark lance]

why the cat ears is IAP?😭 😭 😭

[crude shore]

im not mad, i am just a bit decipoonted, and i want the best for tgc and the community (i love yall) and for that i am here to try and make a change and lift te spirits of those giving up.

remember the rainbow pants? remember that? they listen sometimes, we must try, don't let your sky fam down

[rigid field]

I agree! Everyone is so emotional about something so minor

[mental pulsar]

PAIN.

[civic fable]

This iap issue is like paying gold for a bucket of dirt lmao

[primal gyro]

that's actually 10$ lmao-

[lime plover]

Fr as a teenager, 20$ is alr around 500k VND which is equal to my mom’s daily income from work and its at the price of a in game item, it took me a lot of effort saving up from time to time selling and doing services and all gone after a day

[bright portal]

Can't really argue that cosmetics are basically 70% reason of sky's gameplay, otherwise why do we trade hearts , candle run and do dailies for , to buy cosmetics of course.

[ionic bluff]

looks like trying to find a way isn’t working either, considering this exact scenario happens almost EVERY event update in beta and no matter what people do, nothing changes.

[shell tangle]

The situation of all of us here reminds me of an episode in The big Bang theory when Penny gradually gets sucked into the online gaming world..

[shadow stratus]

Its not something minor lmao its been a recurring thing since some time

[river socket]

Do you ever think that

Perhaps TGC makes cosmetics expensive IAPS cuz we care Way too much abt cosmetics, so they profit off from that

Meaning that if, we domt care abt cosmetics

They will lower prices, make em more accessible to gain some profit

[tight bloom]

This this THIS! Ppl keep saying it's not all about cosmetics. Well, tell that to TGC then. Just look at the current live summer light event. What is it if not cosmetic focused event?!

[summer cave]

ITS NOT EVEN A CAT ANYMORE?

Also i understand the "dont be mad at them" but if devs cant handle this, being a dev is probably not for them. Devs are inevitably going to recieve backlash for makingnpoor descisions. Yall need to realize that.

[feral marlin]

oh so is my fault that im poor ?

[fallen bronze]

It may be optional, sure, but the options f2p players get is so little compared to IAP choices. I'm saying this as someone who purchases IAP things occasionally.

[tawdry pebble]

If every TGC staff share the same thoughts with you, the game won’t live up to this point❌

Yeah, sorry for being pOoR ^^

[inland pier]

Then they should lower prices and make them more affordable. And then it turns out that only for the rich persons

[chilly zenith]

i dont think thats what the message said.

[prime void]

It’s like asking a homeless person why they don’t just buy a house haha

[lunar loom]

as a furry I feel taken advantage of with cat ears being made IAP... (this is a joke but I am sad with the change) TGC pls let IAPs be purchased for candles too

[green jackal]

Idk what you're trying to voice lol. Based on ur words, if the game is about making friends and enjoying the exp. So why tgc make cosmetics? They can just make it as flower rite?

[barren moss]

yoooo i would not consider this minor. now the FIRST time this happened, it could be considered minor. now that’s it’s happened a couple times, i think we have a right to be frustrated with the same card being pulled on us again

[untold oxide]

damn sorry for wanting to have things without having to pay actual money sometimes

[spark lance]

dressing up is cute and all but I'm pretty much have been dedicated to one fit for a year

tgc says it's a game of friendship but also the only thing they give us is places to talk, pretty much. one interactive emote? that's all we have
I still do like to think of sky as a game of friendship in spirit, but what the 'artists' and marketers want don't always overlap

unfortunately, friendship doesn't sell

[winged anvil]

Sorry, I’ll reiterate for the rest: the hair being shifted to IAP was the straw that broke the camel’s back. This is not the first time this situation has happened, and not only was it a misleading with the update deets they gave us, it’s going to be added to something that’s clearly much lesser desired. Hence the outrage. It’s not because of a single event, no, not everyone here is like that. There are many long-time beta players here and we’ve seen the changes happen and we only want better for those playing live because they aren’t able to access beta to get free items.

[shy knoll]

sky is a super nice social game! that’s what it’s advertised as, but the game is mostly heavily cosmetic based. yes, some people go for the ability to socialize and make new friends from anywhere in the world, it’s a great experience! but they are pushing out tons of IAPs, from past items to new ones, and what’s even more crazy is that they’re no longer showing prices in sky beta. cosmetics are optional, but without the idea of cosmetics, the game would have a lot less players than they do right now. what everyone (including me) is upset about is the prices, yes i would love to support the devs! hell i’ve spent money on IAPs before, but the but 100usd for an event? that’s crazy, and they completely ruined the cat mask after switching it to a free item, it’s insane. they really just want people to spend money, it’s becoming very clearly obvious nowadays, atleast to me

[wispy glen]

I don't pay for pixels.

[spark lance]

But TGC THEMSELVES said in patch notes YESTERDAY that the hair is planned to be in game currency. Now today a dev said thay this change was being planned for a week now. That does not add up. 👀💀

[brittle raft]

cosmetics is literally the only thing this game has to offer when 90% of your friends have stopped playing due to how time consuming/expensive it is

[strange kindle]

On the point that “You don’t need it for the game”, TGC has built an economy where cosmetics become the only goal after a pretty short time playing. The only goal we have after a time is suddenly made much more difficult with the blockage of not enough time or money. The entire system is flawed and it’s not fixing itself

[noble whale]

glad you can see it as something minor but literally sky has a whole hierarchy with cosmetics, even though it’s optional it sometimes determines how people treat you, and usually people who can’t purchase IAPs get the short end of the stick, this one like one of the few good non IAP items and they just switched it up for no reason other than greed

[wild lintel]

ITS A KIDS GAME , kids don’t have money… they take their parent’s credit card … there’s a kid who spent thousands of dollars on a game and his dad can’t even get it back… and also the cool down darn it 👁👄👁 6 mins

[flint granite]

No cause it was honestly a slap in the face cause masses of people were begging for cat ears for YEARS and as SOON as people get hype for them in beta they paywall it? its greed

[hushed grove]

obviously, no one pushed us to buy IAPs, and even if it was optional in the first place, you would probably have to put it in somebody else’s perspective as well. many of us may feel excluded, and cosmetics are also one of the important things that the player base care about the most.

[cosmic orchid]

sadly, cosmetics are a massive part of why Sky has replayability
if we didn't care about cosmetics, Sky would be linear, and we'd be done with it for a long time

maybe thats a good thing
maybe our stay in sky has long been overdue and this is the universe's wake up call

[indigo lichen]

Damn, sorry for me being poor and playing sky ig

[halcyon quail]

Fomo is very much a reality which is what pushes a big chunk of the people to give in and buy cosmetics, even if they don't give you an advantage or anything like that. And tgc abuses this a lot.

And a core part of sky is the cosmetics. Just look at the events, sure they may have a new area or a bit of story but the star of the show will always be the cosmetics

[magic jetty]

watching rich kids gt mad at people speaking up ab iap cat hair

[dire egret]

You guys ignore the fact that it is a SINGLE piece of hair that was planned to be IAP in the first place (miscommunication with the patch notes writers)..just chill out. It’s fully optional and if you’re mad about it…don’t buy it! Nobody is forcing you to spend money on the game, people calling TGC greedy and then proceed to buy the IAP anyway? You’re just feeding the fire.

[spark lance]

Sorry but this sounded kinda elitist 🙃

[tulip lake]

speedruning for 30 min cooldown?

[proper inlet]

Man i would do anything to just play and enjoy sky again, i stopped caring about cosmetics a LONG while aho and it was THE BEST THING i've ever done, when my phone wasn't broken i used to literally just enjoy all the little things of this game, it's emotional, calming, exciting, a incredible social platform, i can make lots of friends there, i LOVE to just enjoy the landscapes and music
Now i can't because my phone is broken
But damn i don't care about the cosmetics, i just want the experience, that's what sky is about
Cosmetics are bonuses and should not be considered as core of the game, it's just a way to keep it alive and support the devs.

[pearl ivy]

What if TGC did this update just to trick us or set us up? I mean it's halloween /hj

4 MINS COOLDOWN????

[proven radish]

There are a lot of kids and students who can't spend money on this game so they only can support the game by playing, i hope tgc hears our voice and considers the wishes of the player (i already sent feedback)

[coral swallow]

Still and mom or dad won't let me buy anything in sky (in other games yes because their cheap)

TGC WHY IS YOUR ITEMS SO EXPENSIVE, BE LIKE PKXD HELLA CHEAP

[full dagger]

Seriously this is.. I was enjoying and happy to see the cat hair it even motivated me to buy ap for season of Aurora but now I'm just..... Kinda not that motivated do it anymore

[spark lance]

#Funnychannel

[delicate willow]

Reminder that this isint the first and definitely wont be the last time TGC does this unless we invoke actual change

[frail kite]

Literally every season and event in sky is centered on cosmetics, how can anyone say that cosmetics are not an important part of the game

[simple tree]

Because why not

[spark lance]

white moment

[muted prairie]

common TGC L 😔

[primal gyro]

how many times have you actually went ahead and added friends. Don't tell me you don't cr exactly to buy ts cosmetics every week

ah yes, the actual reply dipped. This was to someone trying to say the game was to make friends. What I mean is that I agree that sky's mostly about the cosmetics tbh. It's also an anonymous game, so...

[ionic bluff]

^what this rhetoric does is cause absolutely nothing to ever change. This type of thinking causes stuff to build up on itself and get worse, like it has been doing ever since IAPs in events got introduced ☠️ optional doesn’t mean it’s fair. if there’s something cool, I’m gonna want it but if it’s something relatively small for a ridiculous price, is it really fair?

[autumn elk]

Even if we dont get the cat hair back as igc maybe enough feedback will give us a nice igc accessory item at least… or adding the old cat mask as igc as well as the angry mask.

Idk i have little to zero hope for them changing the cat hair back to igc. It’s clearly the most popular item I doubt they would put it as igc

(look at tlp scarf cape it was so popular they refused to add it to the pass or for white candles they instead put the two pants)

[cursive topaz]

food for thought, a community loved item like the cat hair being turned IAP isn’t the only reason why many of us are angry, TGC hasn’t been clear lately and having an item which was put in a light that makes it seem like it was gonna be IGC, why wouldn’t people be upset? rising prices and more than half of events being put behind a pay wall.. hm

[warped geode]

It is not cool for us, when the community loves something TGC have to change it to IAP because it is getting popular and famous knowing it happens. Also not everyone can affords IAPS because they are expensive and some cannot afford that.

[fervent thicket]

Jeez I don’t think I’ve ever seen a conversation go on this long, this is some serious business😅

[spark lance]

tbh at least they can add at least 2. new free items. I kinda disappointed there's just one new items. but well, it's all about money

[fervent vortex]

who is being ungrateful? literally people are allowed to be disappointed and you act like thats not allowed without calling it disrespect. criticism doesnt equal disrespect

[spark lance]

@sour knot hush

[summer cave]

MY FOMO IS SO BAD FOR SKY I HAD TO SEE A THERAPIST NOT EVEN JOKING 😭 😭 😭

I LITERALLY HAD TO FORCE MYAELF TO STOP BC ID PLAY IT AT ANY GIVEN CHANVE, EVEN NEGLECTING BASIC NEEDS.

im better now tho

[willow sapphire]

It sounded like you can buy everything you want. So are you trying to say it’s okay if all items being IAP and F2P peeps don’t deserve good things?

[tropic radish]

Miscommunication at it's FINEST

[river socket]

Fellas, just remember

its pixels on a screen, if u angry at that then rethink ur choices cuz the idea is for u to enjoy pixels on screen

[distant nacelle]

TGC said we can all say our own opinions, its good that were saying our own opinions and maybe they will notice them and maybe make the cat hair not a IAP

[rapid reef]

Honestly? This turn of event of TGC swapping the cat hair to IAP just further prove to me that they are predatory toward their customers. They saw the item was popular and instead of going "Oh, so those kind of items interest them!" for future IAPs, they immediatly swap it to become IAP out of greed. And the worst is that they swapped the less liked cosmetic.

[final spire]

It’s okay if it starts with IAP, just feeling betrayed because they changed it after it had already posted on game. Just like someone promised to give you a book as a present first, but when he saw you showing much interest, he changed his mind asking you to pay for it😇

[rough wigeon]

As a 3 years sky player I spend thousands of hours on sky and also lots of money all I can say is that the price is not affordable for most of the players, I've since so many people quiting the game just because of the high price of cosmetics. Tgc really have to lower some of the price (to be honest sometimes I don't think they worth that much at all).

[shell tangle]

Certainly not optional when you get teased into thinking it's a igc item!!

[rotund cradle]

so now we can't complain about the overpriced items and P2W players having all the goodies for them ?
what about F2P players ?? we want to be able to get cool stuff too, but apparently all the cool stuff stays with the P2W players

[swift yarrow]

it's not fair how cool items are mostly IAP, and not to mention they're so expensive in Indonesian rupiah 🗿. like that marshmallows prop, that costs Rp 329.000 💀

[pure sleet]

I'am afraid my friend will actually quit after this dissapointing disaster cuz they felt scammed, i dont really care bout its iap or igc anymore💀💀

[earnest island]

This is still going? ._.

[real kiln]

Overpriced pixels on my screen

[bright portal]

You must be new to the show, the iap debate for little prince went on for around 4-5 days. Sit back and grab some popcorn 🍿

[old carbon]

The cosmetics are HALF the experience of the game. I’m pretty sure half the playerbase of sky is playing because of the cosmetics, because once you’ve completed the base game, there’s really not much to do than collect cosmetics, spend some time with friends, or do the occasional events that happens once in a while.

[green jackal]

Strong stand, poor usage of words, suggest u to keep quiet

[verbal sierra]

At this point tgc needs to take a step back... hopefully this sparks something

[dull jolt]

I am a live player and I am seeing the chat (and watched nastymold's video about it too). Now that broke my heart, I was thinking of doing a candle run for those cat hair. Now I don't believe I have the courage to do so.. it felt like those shards just hit me.

[empty garden]

How much is the price set?

[naive atlas]

“cosmetics in game are things that people are soooo obsessed with in the game like omg ” boi honestly what is there to do after you’ve progressed with the main story, did the events, and the previous seasonal quests? ppl have nothing to do but collect cosmetics at some point when playing the game.

[tardy hazel]

Last year mischief item coming back now?

[fluid cobalt]

fr it's so pricey

[lament belfry]

pretty sure that cosmetics are more than half of the gameplay.. 💀

[cedar prawn]

I think if it is in the form of candles, more people can have what they like.

[prime void]

It’s fine if you don’t care about cosmetics but some other people do and both attitudes are entirely valid. Also isn’t the controversy mostly about the bad faith shown by TGC in this fiasco? It’s about their attitude towards players that has disappointed many for a long while. The disrespect, the lack of transparency and communication. Of course if they want to be like any other corporate game maker then fine alright that’s not against the law. But many players have had high expectations for sky as it is branded as a friendly social game that prioritises inclusivity, companionship, etc instead of money-making. Hence why many are rightfully disappointed.

[marsh belfry]

Oh, is that so? Literally yesterday is still sell as candle and today is become an IAP
Two years ago Sky has already have 8 IAP in Day of mischief
And this year, they're already made the cape and the cat into IAP, so 10 pack
I don't think they being too poor or too needed money to change the hair to IAP
They just saw people love it so change it to IAP to made people throw their money

[inland pier]

That's right. Pixels are just for game currency

[chilly zenith]

telling people to keep quiet in a place where opinions are welcome isn’t very cool

[mighty crane]

I often see people say that sky isnt all about cosmetics only, but what I've seen so far is tgc has only been focusing on releasing new cosmetics. There's barely any legit lore and even they got a bit careless about the bugs that, bugs that were once in beta got carried on to live.

[violet cliff]

Lol anyways

[brittle raft]

tgc's target market is mostly teenagers, most teenagers don't have over $100 to dump in a single event in a mobile hame

[cosmic orchid]

their excuse still stands
the "Everything in beta is subject to change" will still apply to the patchnotes
even specifically stated ones can get changed depending if it goes they way they planned

[worldly creek]

Maybe they were behind on other projects, so they just added the tentonly. I remember we were told there is part 2 of Shattering waiting to be tested. There ain’t anything 😑😑.

[carmine thorn]

walks in hours after update Oh, this is... I'll be back later. Don't forget water and taking small breaks in between. Stay safe beta chat.

[woeful rune]

just my opinion, i never understand why they make something super expensive (esp in my country's currency) like the AP isn't super duper expensive but we get a lot more items with that. Meanwhile the cat hair is cute indeed, but included in a bundle that not everyone wants some of the itemsand the price tag is super expensive.. why not make it cheaper if they really want to make it an IAP? or maybe make it seperate instead of a bundle

[empty path]

gotta love predatory marketing to spend more to look cool

[strange kindle]

Hasn’t been the first time in Sky’s history, and I can assume it won’t be the last lol. The discussions discuss on for a good while

(though will take this opportunity to suggest people take a quick break and get a drink of water if you are feeling overwhelmed. Take care of yourselves first)

[agile hazel]

If you don't like the complaints you don't have to be here. This chat is OPTIONAL

[spice zodiac]

tbh why are some of y'all so eager to defend the company on this its just begging for the game's content to keep getting worse, it started small and it keeps getting worse and maybe im overreacting but the next thing you know you have to pay for your sky membership to play on some new additional content they came up with

[unreal owl]

looks like witch hat is coming back too

[flint granite]

i know a server booster to million dollar company is not talkin 😭

[noble whale]

“I’m not blaming you for being poor” thanks for assuming our financial status, what’s so hard to understand that two pixels should not be about $20 (since these past few bundles have been that), aside from that literally the only other way we can express ourselves in this game is through cosmetics 🗿

[winged gust]

As a white person, I just found that funny lol.
It's more of a "privileged financially" moment, if anything.

[proper inlet]

Please, read this

[fathom laurel]

how to get cat hair, if you didn't get it before this update?

[dire egret]

everyone is overreacting so hard man…I just hate how they downgraded a nice unique cat mask into just an angry assembly-type mask

[indigo lichen]

Sure sure whatev you say, you say that you look like you can just buy whatev you want, you can buy good IAP's items, and we f2p players doesn't deserve good item's 😒

[tight bloom]

They are testing our patience. Obviously

[chilly drift]

They said it was decided a week ago that the cat hair iap , but yesterday's announcement said that the in-game currency exchange, this is Tgc

[pearl ivy]

This channel is literally starting their villain arc

Including me ofc bcs I really love the cat hair and THAT being moved to IAP bundle, I'm so sad

[spark lance]

the chat went like
sending furiousness on the devs then trying to calm the people down by saying ur getting mad because of only a hair 💀

[proven radish]

i will only agree to tgc if it cost $1

[coral swallow]

Let me guess. . . IAP?

[magic jetty]

soemone pointed out this as being a white moment for people that are mad about people complaining ab this and i couldnt agree more

[spark lance]

As a white person

[white sparrow]

Its also not just the items being expensive it then putting what we want behind candles henceforth making it more expensive than it needs to be

[lime plover]

NOT EVEN KIDDING, IM TEEN FROM A POORER COUNTRY AND 20$ IS A LOT FOR US, NOT EVERYONE CAN SPEND 20$ FOR A SINGLE GAME SO CASUALLY LIKE THOSE IN RICHER COUNTRIES. Please do keep this in mind

[sharp yew]

white moment?

[jade arrow]

The entire game are pixels on screen. Cosmetics are like clothes for your virtual avatar and a sjykid that looks like your ideal version or an OC gives immense joy. I'm so sorry that you're not capable of empathizing that, but least you can try is not be dismissive. Because it was the case there is no point to spend a coin on anything in this game.

[shy knoll]

we’re reading it, we’re just understanding that you have a different viewpoint then (almost) everyone here. you can play for fun, but after a while Sky becomes a collect item type of game, and we’re just providing feedback because things like this keep happening.

[crude shore]

at least there are no adds /j

[slender basin]

wdym?????Why you change the cat hair?so disappointed

[simple tree]

Little Prince also used to have a lot of IAP when it first came to Beta. And when it came to live, even some of the good IAP cosmetics can be bought with IGC and the price became fair. Why? Because a lot of us were mad and expressed it. And now it happened again??? So yea, let's stay mad, folks. Don't let toxic positivity ruin our madness

Edit: And when the price becomes cheaper, who can enjoy the benefit of that cheap price?? ALL PLAYERS including y'all who keep saying "ugh why so mad? 🙄"

[royal vapor]

I agree. They just want us quit the game if we poor because its not for poor people and we have to understand how they fool us because they actually just want us leave.

[merry vault]

Like... the "toxic veterans" rejecting or bullying moths because they don't look "cool"

And if you have something "cool" then they flex that they have it too. And I don't need to mention the limited iap and the ults.

I even can't wear my iap capes (snowflake and ocean) because I'm "rich" 💀

[agile patrol]

this event is sponsored by raid shadow le

[wanton plover]

Ummm this channel is about beta feedback of the game sky cotl we should share our opinions

[warped geode]

By ungrateful I wanted to say being not constructive and always being negative when TGC can resolve the situation by not posting the same message and put a feedback. Also sorry if you interpreted my message negatively, because I didn’t intended to.

[cerulean pike]

I just took a small look in general and I feel so bad for the oblivious people💀

[covert mirage]

Isnt it weird when you saw players hype about the new cosmetic then decided to put it in the pack ?

[fervent thicket]

At least I can still get the witch cape😪 (and dang this cooldown👁👁)

[tropic radish]

Candles / IGC

F2P players can access it, and P2W players can buy candle packs for it
It gives you the choice to spend real money or time

[barren moss]

only someone in this channel would somehow manage to involve race into an iap sky hair discussion

[spark lance]

@sour knot

[neon belfry]

we have the rights to complain and get pressed over a beta change- we have the rights to voice our opinions about it and give our honest opinion about it- don’t say stop complaining over a simple cat hair- bruh not all of us can buy items with real money 💀 plus it was planned that the cat hair was IGP why the heck did they change it to IAP? for feedback? or cause of how a lot of players want to buy it?- AGAIN NOT ALL OF US ARE RICH TO BUY ITEMS WITH REAL MONEY and some of the IAP ITEMS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE!!!!!!

[spark lance]

agreed
the cat hair + mask changes were only a catalyst to start a conversation abt a problem that's been going on for a while, reviving itself so often

usually, I don't engage in "make this item free!" drama and complaints against developers, but I feel this time, there's an actual reason beyond wanting these free items
tgc doesn't communicate enough, and though I can't say this second part is true, it makes it seem like they don't care for their playerbase

[autumn elk]

You can’t unless you didnt get the cat cape bundle last update. There are only spells.)

[spark lance]

for those who say it's only 10$. hey dude, every country has different price. and it's depends on the country it's cheap or morely expensive . 🙂

[wild lintel]

In China $20 U.S you can buy a lot of books , snacks and even get a massage for 68 RMB

[swift yarrow]

i also have to pay tax, so iap price + 11% tax. I'm from indonesia by the way😭😭

[real kiln]

Most people aren’t mad because of this specific hairstyle that turned iap, most people are fed up because this isn’t the first time they’ve advertised a wanted cosmetic as in game currency and then swapped it over to iap before releasing it live

[green jackal]

You know what, tgc dont care unless live players are also angry about it. 😭

[hushed grove]

uhuh, including tax, as well…

[bright portal]

#general-sky-discussion : hey guys how's everyone doing ? Good vibes only ☺️ ✨

#beta-discussion : Civil war

[distant nacelle]

Lets look at the bright side, we got a lot of pants for this season, 2 of them are in game currency i think

[rapid reef]

I think what make this all the more worst is that TGC won't listen to their fan, again.

They have this beta testing app, but even when bugs are reported, they have turned a blind eye countless of time. They see items that do well when free and immediatly shift them over to become paid. They are predatory toward their paying customers and the more the game progress, the more it show that they are preying on them. They feed their greed off the fear of missing out. Even if the IAP return next year, they have all ready established this fear of missing out. Don't miss out on these items! Because then you'll feel sad that you don't have it, you start regreting and suddenly, poof. You're afraid of missing out when things end up never coming back!

TGC, do better.

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[split grove]

i have to pay taxes too its terrible

[lime laurel]

for my country they haven't optimised prices so I pay way more than the americans do

[old carbon]

TGC: Everything in beta is subject to change ||if we want it to change||

[warm ether]

Direction of the game is something I don't think I have the authority to comment on, and whether or not generating new cosmetics every month for a cash grab is something good for Sky is something for TGC to decide. I just think it's sleazy to bait all of the players with an IGC item only to change it to IAP when good reviews come in. Like our positive feedback is just a marker for TGC to decide whether or not they can extort the player base for more money? What happened to the healthy player-dev relationship?

[split umbra]

It feels like we come to a boiling point over and over again in recent times... Does this not mean things should change on TGC's end to incite less frustration? Should have been changing...?
More transparency, more listening to actual player feedback, more COMMUNICATION. I don't care if they need to slow down production of things. Listen to players, fix things that need to be adressed...

[shell tangle]

TGC like,"remember the 9 year old kid who loved igc cosmetics?? This is the kid ,3 years later,20 years old now.. Now change the price to IAP, they should have a job by now."

[trail hare]

Do you all want to return the cat hair for candles?

[night crown]

Because they said that’s going to be an igc. They found out the people love the hair so much so they downgraded the mask and made the cat hair an iap

[tidal bramble]

its not just about the hair, its about what the change represents. Its tipped us over the edge, made us as consumers feel abused and gaslighted. Its a debate and fight for decency and compassion in regards to what is fair and right.

[pure sleet]

Its the orange bat cape returning?

[lament belfry]

tgc 🤝 ea
locking every good thing behind a paywall.

and to Tha krill, don't give them ideas. /lh

[naive atlas]

i don’t think ppl are overreacting. most beta testers have had to go through this experience more than once (tlp, dor, shattering, etc.) and well people are bound to be fed up by the repetitive cycle at this point i think everyone is rightfully upset here (excluding those who threaten and insult others,of course!)

[wary flint]

tbh this whole thing plus the discord update is making me boil more, i cant stand updates anymo im gonna explode😊😊☺️☺️😊

[earnest island]

For once gen chat is calm

[river socket]

Indeed it is but talking from my own experience here i can tell that bein angry womt make us be listened

[tardy hazel]

Hope the price will be not too much.
And if last year item will come back. There gonna be alot of IAP items.
I aslo want the last year cape
Can't afford all.
Not fair for free player tho😭

[spark lance]

cant wait to see the youtubers saying the cosmetics sux.

[naive arrow]

Haye, my rebels, how are you here? I will sometimes join in the conversation. You are all well done for expressing your fair opinion, I am still amazed in a good way by our common unity

[delicate willow]

People gotta realize thats its not just the hair we are mad about, the hair just so happened to be the straw that broke the camels back for more people to realize how money hungry TGC is becoming

[chilly zenith]

im just so confused as to why someone would say “white moment” in the first place like how does this have anything to do with being white???

[cedar prawn]

Just let more people who can‘t consume in the game get what they like. If you want to stop endless quarrels, please listen to our opinions?

[woven lake]

pant is not enough to make up for cat hair we stand cat f2p

[marsh belfry]

Literally yesterday is still sell as candle and today is become an IAP
Two years ago Sky has already have 8 IAP in Day of mischief
And this year, they're already made the cape and the cat into IAP, so 10 pack
I don't think they being too poor or too needed money to change the hair to IAP
They just saw people love it so change it to IAP to made people throw their money

[tawdry pebble]

Some folks said cosmetics aren’t important and the game is all about friendships.

Meanwhile me getting rejected and left out cuz I don’t have that cosmetic like them: 🤨

[winged anvil]

If you’re rich and you think the prices are fine shut the hecking heckle dog up because this is not your place to say (only regarding pricing btw) 💀 the purchase stuff from this company as a whole is expensive as heck, seriously. From their merch to the iaps.

[strange kindle]

Word is spreading around lol, I haven’t been keeping up with things and learned about all of this from a meme on Reddit 💀

[primal gyro]

Honestly, most of us aren't poor. We just find that we're trying to buy something that's outrageously expensive (assuming this bundle's 20-30$) is unfair, especially after the promise it's going to be iap. If tgc still wants the money, the best they can do is make the cat hair and cape seperate. And sell it as two different items instead of it being with the cape. That way, it's much cheaper right?

[tulip lake]

same, i can live a full week with just 20$, like food or other needs

[noble whale]

do old messages get deleted cuz i was just abouta see what someone replied to and that WHOLE convo gone 🗿

[oak hornet]

why is there so much fighting here

[wispy glen]

In here you can get a home

[rigid rock]

Yes. 10$ in my country is more than enough for 10 meals. I can live at least 3 days with it

[unreal owl]

well the previous witch hat is an IAP, idk about this next one tho

@pure sleet idkk sorry im not a beta tester😭 but from what ive heard, those previous cosmetics havent appear yet in the shop

[dire egret]

you guys act like TGC is the villain when there are literally countless people (probably from Twitter) bringing race into this discussion and being racist?? About virtual cat hair?? 🤯

[inland pier]

The game lacks gameplay that will drag out oldies and beginners. It's very sad that they stutter only on cosmetics, and they completely forgot about the gameplay

[brittle finch]

Even if they're money hungry,they should just set the hair as iap in the first place.
But why change it now?
They took away our hopes
My disappoinment is starting here

[tight bloom]

Guys, I dont think we are their beta testers, anymore. We are their market research.

[final spire]

I paid in £ which is even more expensive than using $ 🥹 I really wonder why they don’t follow the exchange rate

[spark lance]

Who are you

[coral swallow]

Fun fact I'm a live player this whole time, I couldn't join beta AND I'M SO UPSET OF TGC LIKE MANZ WHY

[cosmic orchid]

a wild elitist downplaying people because of their financial status and trolling them because they're poor
why does this not suprise me anymore
how far has Sky fallen

[summer cave]

My thoughts:
Tgc making this descision right after getting everyone's hopes up is honestly terrible. This is not the first time they've made a terrible descision. Some examples are, 30 dollar guitar, 5 dollar reskin harp, etc. TGC has been making poor ddscisions like this for a while. And im sure lots of people will say "dont be mad! This can really stress them out!" developers are going to undoubtedely get backlash. Developers that tend to be amazing will get backlash for the tiniest mistake, since the community becomes so expectant. TGC really has to change their ways, i dont think they should keep doing this.

[slender basin]

how dare you

[crude shore]

welp, time to go to gen chat and break a few server rules/j

[lime plover]

THIS, this is very true. Sad truth is that people only like you if you have old and rare ultimate items, namely owls and campfire

[halcyon quail]

Honestly the "if you cant afford then don't buy no one's forcing you mentality" does absolutely nothing for the future of the game, we think that the product tgc is selling us is overpriced and we have the right to complain about it.
Imagine if, idk, ice cream was too expensive for no real reason, you don't actually need ice cream but it's a treat you'd like to afford once in a while.
Saying that no one's forcing you to buy it so you don't have to is no reason to try to invalidate the criticism. I want ice cream it tastes nice and should be affordable so that the majority of people who like it can enjoy it and not just a few people or once every new moon.

[placid iron]

Ok look ik why people are angry about the whole cat hair thing but that doesn't mean you have to review bomb the game over a cosmetic 💀💀

[chilly drift]

Old players don't have to collect candles because there's nothing to exchange for in-game currency, we just have to pay for it

[proper inlet]

Besides all that, leave feedback PLEASE, even if you think you won't be listened.

[barren moss]

most beta testers explaining how they feel lied to and expressing how they're tired of tgc constantly switching up on the community:
that one beta tester: WEll If YOu'RE pOOr jUst Say THat

[magic jetty]

THIS please dont review bomb sky over this whole thing 😭

[wild lintel]

…… lmao what IS THIS TRYIN TO CALM US DOWN? NO WAY UNLESS TGC , YOU GUYS CHANGE THE PRICE AND STUFF,also the new players who want the cosmetics will have to spend more than the old players in order to buy them… and also I think $20 is around 168 RMB? There are 9 items I have to purchase;-; each one costs more that $10 😅

[hot aurora]

This random but some of you guys react '⬆️' so fast 😨. At least read the message first!

[swift yarrow]

66 CANDLES igc cat hair : shows up
me : yayy finally a new halloween hairstyle and it's free! i can finally have it✨🙏 thank you so much tgc im so happy

the next day
tgc : changes cat hair to IAP

[vestal pier]

HAHAHA

[feral marlin]

NAHHHHHHHHH U DID NOT- 💀

[fervent thicket]

Guys it’s super late for me right now. I’ll continue the uproar tomorrow🫡✌️

[winged gust]

It's like Twitter, but on Discord 😂

[green jackal]

GUYS ITS ABOUT CONSUMER RIGHTS!😭

Hair is not a very @spark lance big problem, coz if we say about hair, they just gonna move it as igc, and continue this the other time.

[proven radish]

$20 is my allowance for 2 weeks welp💀

[jade arrow]

What is review bomb?

[spark lance]

@sour knot shush

[neon belfry]

to be quite? bruh practice spelling again 🙌 it’s quiet 🥰

[spice zodiac]

i can't imagine mentioning "30$ mobile game guitar" to someone and getting taken seriously

[spark lance]

You literally called ppl poor for not being able to afford some iaps stop being so contradicting n changing ur points bcs u get some backlash lol ure making 0 sense babes

[cursive topaz]

don’t worry, many live players (like myself) are here screaming at walls too in hopes the sound bounces back and reaches someone

[bright portal]

This channel is getting a fat L right now ngl

[shell tangle]

This is a very toxic point!! Seriously!!! Stop!!! Stop being toxic..

[drowsy breach]

literally, its very common to see that in prarie and wasteland lobby

literally witness one yesterday a dreams player getting rejected by an owl

[rapid reef]

The issue with that is the fact that TGC has shown to ignore some feedbacks or even reports. Even if we flood them, there's a high chance that they'll only think with their wallet. Not saying we shouldn't do that, just pointing out that TGC has stopped being there for the community a while ago now.

[rough wigeon]

I'd rather have the cat hair to be IAP from the beginning, at least most of the people will not get disappointed. What's the point of making it to IAP when it's originally a IGP and make everyone angry about this. It's like we are all fooled

[cerulean pike]

Not even my allowance for 2 months
Cus I don't even have an allowance💀

[woven lake]

witch hair
cat hair
bat cape/ spider cape
horns
what's more imagine buying all that at once make cat hair f2p for god sake sometimes people quit because sky being like this || I'm sorry ||

[chilly zenith]

this community knows how to twist words really weel

also if i see one more thing about andrew tate im gonna rip my hair out

[indigo lichen]

We can play without the cat hair, but how would you feel, if the things that you want irl and have been saving money to buy that thing, and the price of that thing has been changed to a more higher price that you need more saving money

[brittle raft]

idk how this conversation has somehow managed to get even WORSE.

[indigo heath]

It’s less people getting mad bc “oh no cute hairstyle is a $$$ payment now” and more that this is an ongoing problem that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later
And sometimes the only way to do that is by causing enough of an uproar that people have to listen

[tidal bramble]

as a live player, I submitted a well written feedback message, explaining my reasoning and annoyances to the behavior and decisions made.

[elder kindle]

I see a lot of conformist people here. Folks, it's not just an uproar over a silly kitty hair, we are upset about the fact that this was going to be FREE, but because of the uproar tgc changed it to a paid product. Tgc doesn't think of us only in money, how many ridiculously expensive items just because they bring a pack of candles have they put us on? Items that should cost at most 10$ they sell them for more than 20$. The game has unforgivable bugs, but instead of fixing them tgc prefers to put cosmetics and cosmetics each one more expensive than the previous one. Not everyone has money to buy those items. It's ok you can buy it, good for you! But not everyone has that luxury and I feel that EVERYONE deserves nice items, not just the people who can pay real money for them.

[river socket]

Nah, the decisions that TGC has been doing are poor, some dumb even

But again, being angry will only invalidate our own arguments

[old carbon]

Thank you all, your love has broken the curse and freed our soul, we’ll never have to kill be mad again. /j

And what was the reason this discussion even started? That’s right— TGC giving false hope to f2p players.

[empty path]

review bombing aint best move, but its because of the fact they repeat this cycle of going ooOooOo IGC ITEM.. SIKE!! PAY US MONEY!!!!!👻

[delicate willow]

If only there was a way to actually promote change of TGC’s growing greed. Sadly right now we are all screaming towards deaf ears because they dont want to listen to us

[tardy hazel]

They should add cat ear hair accessory, then I can wear it with any hair style

[twin gust]

i think whats worse, too, is a lot of mischief items are not able to be gifted to peope, such as witch hair and capes etc. which is disappointing, because a lot of people can nnot use their money (like myself), so seeing no way to be able to purchase items is really disappointing. especially with cat hair, it is a very pretty item and i was so excited to be able to get it, however the change is very underwhelming, because i am sure its going to be expensive. if a latern, and some marshmallows, and an umbrella cost 19.99$ or so EACH.. i can only imagine how much thr pack of the cape and hair cost.

[narrow briar]

uh oh seems like a bad time

[strange kindle]

Want to repeat something I said earlier. Yeah, sure, you don’t have to buy it. But after a very sort time of playing, cosmetics become the main goal of the game. It’s frustrating for so many people when that goal becomes much more difficult by not having enough time or money. Suddenly, you don’t have any achievable goal anymore.

The whole system is flawed, and this discussion has repeated itself several times over the years. It’s not fixing itself, and a fundamental problem is clearly still there

[brittle finch]

It's nothing wrong with us for complaining.
If they don't like it,then what's the purpose of beta testers

[autumn elk]

People have every right to feel betrayed and upset about the direction a game they care about is going.

Not everyone has the same financial situation and we need to be empathetic to minors/those in other countries/those that can’t afford to drop 20 bucks on a virtual cape.

Telling people “cosmetics aren’t important” isn’t constructive because cosmetics are important to a lot of players and its a valid sentiment to want to collect all or most cosmetics.

[pure sleet]

I think what makes people mad is previously they said its IGC, but now suddenly they moved it to IAP, whether i have money or not i also would have been upset. It feels as if that candles i have collected for that item are no use again
I mean i goes cr to get something besides more friends

[wispy glen]

Where are the mods????

[hushed grove]

Beta chat:
General chat:

[spark lance]

if this really is happening on twitter (wouldn't be surprised) then it has nothing to do with us

I'm not neutral about racism ofc, against it, really (I am asian myself) but don't act like the people complaining are doing something wrong by, well, giving feedback, like we're supposed to

[cosmic orchid]

that's not even a beta tester, it's also an elitist troll

[spark lance]

OH YES THE MONEY THE MONEY ALL THE MONEY THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS I WANT TO SPEND MY MONEY TGC YOU CAN HAVE MY MONEY YOU CAN HAVE MY HOUSE MY FAMILY EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING 🤑🤑🤑💰💰💰

[marsh belfry]

Game of friendship or game of "if you don't have money IAP isn't for you"?

[dire egret]

it was planned to be IAP but they released an early patch. This is less “giving false hope” and more of a stupid miscommunication between the developers and whoever wrote the patch notes

[frail kite]

TGC has made the point that if we're not willing to shout then we won't be heard

[trim goblet]

I cant keep up with the convos 😦 things are very fueled up rn 🤧

[simple tree]

Sky: CHILDREN of the Light. But the IAP price is soooo expensive even for the adults lmaooo.

I knoow I knooww Sky is not exactly for kids (although it for 7+ y.o), but we just want a reasonable price. Sky is 3 y.o now and getting bigger yet they still come with high price of cosmetics, especially on Halloween?? We expect better

[ionic bluff]

You’re talking about it like this is the first time they’ve done this, though. Like I said, this will continue to happen and when it gets even worse the games gonna go waaaay more downhill if tgc gets more comfortable than they already are. Wouldn’t you agree that 20$ for just some cosmetics is kinda ridiculous? paired with how a lot of us don’t have the money. Even if we aren’t gonna get this item, the fact that tgc is obviously pricing it unfairly is ridiculous. It doesn’t matter if we do or don’t get it. it’s just simply ridiculous and will eventually ruin the game more

[gilded parrot]

@ionic bluff, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[summer cave]

Again, fomo.

[stark lake]

having tea with the devs in season test chat cause why even try at this point

[royal vapor]

Im a noob troll just trying to remind ppl how many times we got fooled, real troll just call us poor people

I'm willing to pay even 50$ for a single honking item(i did), but only if they respect paying players

[willow sapphire]

I know some people who said “cosmetics aren’t important” but still do CR full realms everyday

[flat furnace]

Oh my, #beta-discussion begun to get chaotic

[real kiln]

That didn’t age well

[lament belfry]

sky : children of taking your money. 💀

[magic jetty]

um.. this is a bot just reminding you 😟 it's programmed to send that everytime someone mentions ios/android or switch beta info

[frank mirage]

TGC should really listen to the older parts of the community. It's unfair at this point to people who can't buy the IAPs. Well done TGC, you're causing the community to quit. Well yes it's fine for me but seriously. Newer players are getting deceived and veteran players aren't getting what they deserve for playing so long at this point.

[untold folio]

You can see what it looks like. Is your game still warm?

[odd kernel]

Why not spend the money fixing bugs and servers?

[worldly storm]

Are We able to get the horns?

[violet bane]

For someone who can’t buy in-app purchases, this update is heart breaking-

[slender basin]

no one children can afford your game.lmao

[covert mirage]

Beta chat just turn into a World War Battlefield

[wild lintel]

😨

[barren moss]

idkkkkk y'all at this point i'd be more willing to pay for that one door in forest to work rather than this hair

[green jackal]

Its kinda unethical and unprofessional for them to act this way. Consumer rights should be protected

[flint granite]

the game is barely fixed and they want us to pay $500 for some hair we cant even get to wings in this seasons memories 💀💀💀💀

[worldly creek]

Yes but with real money

[naive arrow]

I notice that some say cosmetics don't matter, but I have an ironclad argument. Your friendship can be rejected if you don't have cosmetics. And secondly, sometimes you want to look the way you want, in your own style. I dreamed of looking like a cat in this game, and now I can only get a mask that doesn't look like a cat at all.

[fervent thicket]

Guys please don’t turn on eachother😅try to stay on topic and minimize fights. We’re all gonna have different opinions on the situation so just respect eachother. ( this took way too long for me to be able to send jeez💀 )

[brazen gorge]

Fr I hate it here. I wish there was another place to submit feedback

[feral marlin]

Elon Musk pls adopt me

[spark lance]

there's the point why it's makes me disappointed.

1. They give us hope to make the kitty hair free. and now it's paid
2. They just give us one free items. not like the previous event at least we got two.
   that's my opinion. tbh i also disappointed for days of sunlight because there's only one free items but well. what to do. i can't do anything about that🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[proper inlet]

Even so, do it. I've received DM responses from the team before regarding feedbacks, they sure do read it, if they don't change it it's probaly because of other reasons we don't know, but one thing i agree is that they should be more transparent on the reasons, but i believe really well they will change it to igc again, i've seen it happen before, it's rare, but there's even more feedback about this and the fuzz is even bigger this time, i'm sure they'll change it

[prime void]

I just feel like sky has kind of lost its original ethos.

[bright portal]

Hey tgc can i refund all my iaps im tired of this game and would rather just stay a moth at this point thanks

[tight bloom]

For the bridge at the end of the Forest to work as well!

[shell tangle]

More like, TGC: It's in the IAP

[hollow spruce]

Cat be yeeting chibis for days of mischief

[woven lake]

the thing is it's the same event repeat by each year and people already get used to it it's just adding a bit of new cosmetics and now they made it hard for us we're upset because it's supposed to be a FREE in game items so everyone can enjoy catto hair but they made it to IAP that made us(not all of us) the one f2p is upset about it and wanna quit sky or more.

[echo mason]

🤗🤗🤗🤗
🐬🐬🐬🐬
😺😺😺😺
👳👳👳👳

[rotund cradle]

im going insane

[warped geode]

Yeah, beta testers write their feedbacks and the company have to listen but I don’t think it is the same with us.. I thought TGC said that they listen to their community, am I wrong ? Then what’s the purpose of the Beta app or even #beta-feedback ?

[violet coral]

Not me doing 50 feedbacks so they keep the cat hair free.

[plush pier]

In a game that advertises itself as free to play, locking everything specifically that players want and like behind paywalls sounds exploitative.

[cerulean pike]

Sky: Children of The Rich💸

[distant nacelle]

🦶

[indigo lichen]

Like example, you have been saving ur money to buy maybe new phone, or laptop, or maybe important suplies, *but they change the price's to a more higher price than before

[split umbra]

The issue isn't that people are poor or not (though admittedly, it is worse for those that do have less money, who actually can't buy IAPs for whatever reason, and/or whose currency is worth less than the USD)
It's the fact that we've felt frustrated for a long time about the ratio of IAP vs IGC items, and the 'quality' and 'popularity' of these items compared to each other. It makes sense that envied items are often put as IAPs, but the rate at which this is happening... and the fact that there are many more IAPs than IGCs for some events like Mischief...

[stark cloud]

LMAO people thought TGC will listen 💀

[empty path]

bouta refund my $500+ USD i spent on this game since i first started 🚶

[cedar yew]

people say cosmetics don't matter
Reject friend request from moth
Scream when veteran give them that candle
people still say cosmetics don't matter

[gilded parrot]

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[chilly zenith]

please don’t turn on each other, fr. don’t attack people for their opinions, they’re allowed to be shared

[faint steppe]

I feel likes it’s so unfair for the newer players who want cute cosmetics to not be able to get some cute cosmetics bc theyr iap

[graceful widget]

please do not take my money😭😭😭

[lime plover]

I would be very happy, but it wont be fair to ones who worked hard to get those ultimate items

[river socket]

TGC:

🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀🦀MONEY🦀

[rapid reef]

This just prove that TGC doesn't think of it's community first but think with their wallet first imo.

They constantly make things expensive but where does that money go? Deffinitly not in improving the game. Server splitting is still a massive issue crossplatform. Request the community make to improve the game are ignored, report are ignored, they discourage hearts groups because god forbid people help eachothers get hearts.

So far, in the recent year, TGC has been actively going against it'S community and exploiting what they can is what I see.

[spark lance]

People really revealing their nature now 🤦🏾‍♀️
People really try to take out cosmetics importance of sky🙃
Cosmetics have HUGE gameplay value!. Events every year brings new cosmetics to us to enjoy .what a minor with low income can even buy? A student? So because they can't buy iap they're locked out of the possibility of enjoying a huge part of gameplaY that is customization ?

[noble whale]

FRRR boutta sell my whole account 🗿

[tardy hazel]

At least they shouldn't give us hope. I was so happy when I saw cat hair as igc
Now they just destroy my happiness
I'm F2P player

[strange kindle]

Just once I want to open the door without three people staring at me waiting while elevator music plays from a recess in my brain

[twin gust]

sky rich people of the light lmao

[wanton plover]

[vivid laurel]

they changed the cat hair to iap? sad

[spark lance]

not when ppl are calling others poor like it's morally not right do u not see the issue lol

[delicate willow]

They removed the ability to see IAP prices in beta, their next move is to keep them a secret until they come out in live 🗿

[dry trench]

Exactly once i saw it i was thinking finally tgc thinked about players who cant effort paif items but then they changed for the mask okay we understand that they need money for their company but there is other ways for that

[oak hornet]

yeah i think putting stuff in #beta-feedback is better if you just want to see tgc's response and you dont want to discuss it lol

[spice zodiac]

yall i don't even rlly care about the cat hair i'm just mad that one of my favorite games wants to shorten it's life expectancy to maximum 4 years so badly is all

[pure sleet]

I think its better if they make the cat piece more expensive, maybe 175 candle like last year leaf cape, sometimes we need good IGC item, nit just ugly one

[merry vault]

Looks suspicious because the cat hair already have a igc price.

adding to the fact that the cat mask looked good as iap but when they turn it as igc item... well... looks ugly

[limpid moat]

Privileged mentality like this is what going to make the community torn apart...and please remember, much of players in Sky is kids/teens with no paying power other than depended on their parents, which in turn think "what kind of game you need to pay for 20USD?"
and each country has different pricing and what could be cheap in your country might not be cheap in others.
IAPs also purchasable for our friends, meaning IAP is not "If you dont have money, IAP market is not for you"
and yes IAPs is optional, but we want to see our friends happy. If gives me more satisfaction to help them. Yet i with buying power has certain budgets.

Now, put example of marshmallow stick pack which i could afford (based from your word, IT IS MARKETED FOR ME) yet to be honest what's the benefit of it with high price than single Season Pass....?
Does it gives me wax, No. Social space bonfire gives me more benefits than that.
Bench gives me more benefit of being able to chat with strangers.
With this absurd pricing for items, it simply tasted sour to know and seeing how TGC treat their SKY kids/ teens players.

[hushed grove]

AHSJJWZJS IM CRYING

[dire egret]

guys we have two+ months to wait for mischief…give TGC some time to take in all of the hate and feedback and (if they realise how it’s affecting the community as a whole) they may make a change to the IAP status or the pricing. Who knows? It’s only been a few hours, everyone is acting like the hair is coming out extremely soon.

[spark lance]

$20 can buy more foods or stuff in my country if the cat hair is really iap , i hope they can separate it because I don't want to get cat cape or they can make it back to IGC

[full dagger]

" Rated for 7+ "

[halcyon quail]

Remember everyone, something being an optional item doesn't make it acceptable to sell it for unreasonable prices.

And also, for those who are extremely angry. Please leave the discussion for a bit and calm down, being angry won't help you and I'm seeing some people really taking it out on other members or tgc. Just voice your discontent and opinions with arguments. Insults or impersonations alone won't change anything

[agile patrol]

bro there was a strike in my country recently, making prices go up for EVERYTHING, not even eggs are affordable, how am i supposed to get the hair now, i was so hyped for it

[crystal niche]

"cosmetics don't matter" yo this game's player base treats people based on cosmetics. It's undeniable. I've been playing a long time and change my outfit daily. It's very obvious how differently I get treated based on my outfit. So to people saying "outfits don't matter in this game" are you sure????

[winged gust]

This though-
this argument comes up a lot.
I agree with it.
They're already willing to price ult instrument dupes (with slightly different sound) at $20 USD, so what's stopping them from just selling the original things as iAP? Leave good stuff to the F2P players, and also let the whales get what they've been seeking since they started playing?

[urban raft]

Hi! Season pass and ult holder of dreams here!

I do not care about that, I want you to be happy

[warm bone]

[fossil roost]

I don't think you need to pay to play with a friend.

[spark lance]

Hi , drink Water .

[cedar prawn]

This is unfair to players who can‘t spend money in the game. Obviously, I could have a favorite hairstyle. That’s not easy,But this change has deprived them of this right.

[violet bane]

If they didn’t want this argument in the first place, why did they also add the cat hair in the tree for free in the first place? False hopes man- don’t do that- And tbh it’s not like TGC would listen to the plea of their poor players TwT

[maiden pond]

I'll drink my tears instead.

[barren moss]

even better, i would pay A LOT to fix serve merges. do NOT underestimate this statement guys

[elfin delta]

It has been 4 hours.

[brittle finch]

7+ rated
And then selling the summer umbrella with the price that's more expensive than real life umbrella

[cosmic orchid]

just a wee reminder for everyone
Sky's target demographic aren't children, it's the children's parents' credit cards and rich people
our friend right here supports that
poor people don't have the right to talk about IAPs

[naive atlas]

i can’t believe we STILL have to scream about this kind of stuff y’know. can y’all think of another game that has it’s beta testers constantly sending feedback and voicing out their concerns about easing on the IAP and bringing more inclusivity to it’s F2P players? we’ve had this problem for a while now, it’s stretching a bit too much honestly

[spark lance]

20$ equals 200MAD here where I live and some people can buy a month worth of grocery with that

[green jackal]

But people reject your friendship if u dont pay💀😭

[ionic bluff]

thank you for this delicious refreshment

[proper inlet]

I don't do that?? I always make friends with moths, actually, with literally anyone i can, but i still think cosmetics are not that important
I love helping others, making friends and just enjoying the overall sky experience.

[tidal bramble]

TGC is reinforcing the idea that money is more important in life than hard work and time spend (grinding). That is the most terrible thing to reinforce to a community of children-teens-young adults

[tawdry pebble]

This ^

Until now sometimes i still get ignored if in the server there are players who wear “ luxury “ cosmetics from the first seasons, like owl or bonfire or sth. I have one newbie who used to ask me why everyone rejected her for her appearance too.

Plus, there is almost no worse feeling than staying in a group of friends and you are the only one who cannot afford the item, the rest wearing that same cosmetics and go shooting/taking pictures in group WITHOUT you. Yeah i know the spells do exist, BUT couldn’t be so long.

Saying cosmetics not important is just because those people have never gone through these feelings before, the feeling being lonely in a group. Cosmetics do affect your ingame experience and i cannot understand why some folks keep denying it.

[spark lance]

proceeds to gets every friend request rejected as moth but then suddenly I get chibis following me around
sure 😭😭

[gilded parrot]

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[lime laurel]

The bot ate my message I think but I understand people worked hard for them, but if there's still new things for them to get with IGC, it lets newer players enjoy the old content too! I don't see why we should gatekeep older items for newer players.

[woven lake]

TAKE OUR MONEY AND FIX THE GAME

[gloomy chasm]

"CoSmEtIcS aRe OpTiOnAl" JEEZ that's the only thing they add in the game, most people stay in the game cuz they like collecting stuff
10-20$ is a lot of money for lots of small countries and the way they SWITCHED to IAP is very SELFISH, there's already a lot of IAPS
they KNEW everyone was happy about cat hair being free and they did it on purpose and even DOWNGRADED MASK to make us want to buy IAP
I'm playing for 2 years and I've been playing everyday since october, it's just upsetting to see that game gets more greedy and worse, season of shattering WAS a disappointment in some way after they ignored beta testers and when they pull something like that it gets clear that they don't care about their community anymore

[woeful vault]

[bright portal]

To compare for my country , 3 20$ iap packs can pay for my a month's rent + electric + water + wifi bills

[proud sage]

I’m so poor

[primal gyro]

If anything they could've really just seperated the hair and cape so it's less pricey if they really wanted that money

[untold folio]

If you change it like this, you will change the people. Then what game do you play?

[elder kindle]

Oh, yes cosmetics are not important, so why r u rejecting the friend request of a moth but u accept one of someone who looks that has bought a lot of Iap's? 😈

[brittle raft]

not everyone has the same priorities and goals as you, and maybe they want to be abel to have a cute cat ear hair without having to pay for it. Why are you incapable of understanding that people want the f2p players to have something nice?
the ratio of igc and iap items is disastrous, and in the end its only gonna drive away newer players who do not want to spend money on a game that they've barely started yet.
tgc NEEDS something to be able to retain the f2p playerbase who MIGHT want to buy in the future, is that too difficult to understand?

[distant nacelle]

a lot of kids play sky, yall think kids have that much money in there wallets?
kids cant do jobs except for school but they dont get paid for doing school do they?

[naive arrow]

Chat: huge rebellion
Bot: 🤙

[mighty crane]

my irl shirts are cheaper than my sky kids outfits

[covert mirage]

Yea I mean, sad fact

[warped geode]

A game about friendship? No sorry. A game about suffering and griding. And paying real money for pixel although, grinding with in game currency.
Sometimes I ask myself if the game was secretly created by EA 💀

[plush pier]

Cosmetics are what the game is played for, its a casual game where you make money and buy things (usually cosmetics, props, and instruments) with the accumulated money. cosmetics and such are the driving force of the game, not just community. (also not mad at you in any way, just expanding)

[chilly zenith]

you can have that and STILL be respectful. it’s not hard. 🙂 i do see the issue, but that doesn’t mean attacking people is okay.

btw i wish to not argue over this

[tight bloom]

Beta feedback is still going.

[alpine field]

Guys i understand many of us are frustrated over the igc/iap changes, but that doesn’t validate calling names and insulting other people with different opinions

[azure zinc]

W-why did they make cat hair IAP???

[hasty pendant]

$20 USD is close to $30 in my country, while $30 USD is closer to $45

These prices are getting outrageous, Journey moff is sad

[river socket]

This says a lot about this fandom's horrible financial decisions

[lime plover]

This is very common, even for me and all of my friends. Please do consider this with a grain of salt

[muted frost]

I wonder if tgc regrets this decision yet. I mean, they are watching us rn.

[strange kindle]

fun fact!
I know you’re supposed to be asleep by now. You know who you are.

[spark lance]

Everyone always says you don't NEED to buy these items but the people love cat hair. Right now, at least me aren't taking about just IAPs. We are talking about cat hair. We loved it and TGC saw that and made it a paid item. It was finally a new gender neutral hair that everyone loved so it hurts when it gets taken away to be put behind a pay wall and even in a expensive bundle. Probably 25$+. That we don't even know the price of and will not know until it comes to live.
This is why we are upset. Yesterday they said that the hair is being planned to be in game currency.

[spice zodiac]

bro all my friends are gone because the game exhausted them and it's exhausting me too, all the new players i meet leave for the same reason and because they're overwhelmed by everything that's unobtainable to them, what's left for me besides the actual game's content which i've been trying to complete for 2 years because i'm passionate about this project?? bruhhhh

[graceful widget]

I'm really disappointed that the haircut needs to be changed

[dry trench]

Its been a while that i forget the true meaning of this game it becomes only about cosmetics and money

[feral marlin]

is about using their friend to gift them the pack like
"can u buy me the ..... pack/pass pls"
||not all player do this||

[odd kernel]

Why are there so many gift packs, there are a lot of profits, people from so many countries are playing, why not use these profits to fix those old bugs, or even expand the scope of old bugs, and update the version one after another, really The worse it gets, why not take it all to maintain your server and your existing bugs and instead do these things that turn free stuff into paid stuff, I just want to know where they spend their money

[quaint nacelle]

i dont think its bad to want nice looking things though
especially bc of the difference between the igc and iaps in mischief we only have the ramen hair
this is just really disappointing bc we thought cat ears was gonna be igc and got our hopes high 🤡

[pure sleet]

I dont think anything will change(?) I am pretty sure this chat would stop being angry and go silent before mischief, prove me wrong i guess

[near moth]

i used to buy a lot from live but had to slow down on that slowly realizing how expensive things have been recently doesn’t help that $20 is around $25-28 CAD so just seeing this makes me a lot more frustrated since i did really like the cat hair :((

[dim dove]

Atackk,until thc hear us>:(

[tulip lake]

guys quick reminder:

drink some water please!

guys im sorry im sleepy

[final spire]

No they’re probably calculating their earnings 🤪

[halcyon quail]

You might want to reread that lol

[vestal pier]

day 1 of sky: 🦀money of the money🦀

[spark lance]

dehydrated

[dire egret]

Talking here isn’t going to do much guys you’re much better off leaving your criticisms in #beta-feedback

[faint steppe]

My opinion:
I feel like Most times, seasonal cosmetics are better looking than the free ones.
(Tgc Alr makes a honking amount of mula with pass purchases from players, they could afford to make a cute item igc)

[frank mirage]

Veterans are just burnt out at this point. They've been playing before the first or second anniversary and THIS is what they get for supporting the game for that long? TGC is making every single highly anticipated item locked behind payment at this point. Even compensation doesn't feel like it's worth much anymore.

[thorn temple]

Off topic but dehydrated means not hydrated. So you got the wrong word lol

[oak hornet]

the reactions are just going ⏫

[violet coral]

I just think is so rude they switch it so fast when they realized is kinda popular. I would be okay if they put that in IAP since the beggining, let's be honest,they never put really cool stuff for free and if they do is so weird, they won't lost too much money if they give it for free for once. They add things and they check people reaction so they can say "ugh looks like this is so cool to being free". I understand they work and want to get money but there are a lot of IAP in the next updates, is insane. If they don't listen to us, the feedback channel is useless.

[full dagger]

Yeahh.... Ummm.. TGC... it doesn't seem... 7+ friendly enough it should be more than 19+

[agile patrol]

i just know that most ppl that say "it's not that big of a deal" are able to afford it

[stark lake]

they didn't care for the entire last season doubt they'll stop now

[zealous axle]

Keep the fire going, loves! Voice your opinions! They listened to us over The Little Prince sword suit… There’s still hope! Don’t give up.

This is happening too much. Silence won’t be heard. Speak up!

[proper inlet]

While i don't care about cosmetics, i agree about why you guys are mad, i just think it's not THAT much of a big deal, yes, it is a problem, but it will still be sky

[royal vapor]

Just found a fun fact if i didnt paid for be fool on this game i can buy almost all the cooler cothes in their shop for a better mmo

[delicate sierra]

They don't care about our thoughts. 🤷🏻

[marsh belfry]

Nope is 10:21 A.M in my country

[pale widget]

What a sad thing it is that the cat's ear hairstyle has been changed into a gift package for Halloween. I would like to sum up a point. Players should never be obvious about their favorite accessories. Maybe the official will seize this point and change the items that could have been exchanged for free with candles into gift packages.😰😰😰😰😰

[violet bane]

The cat hair changing currency made a revolution once again, y’know when I saw that cat hair it reminded me of my late pet who I then proceeded to make an idea of a new sky kid oc inspired by my pet using the hair, but haha no TGC proceeded to steal that now- (Yeah call it a “big deal j/“ but it is for me when you can’t earn your own money and just have to grind candles 24/7 for)

[green jackal]

But ya know, its disappointing and sad to see they change the cat hair to iap straight on sec day coz its very popular😭

[spark lance]

@strange kindle it's 4am here 💀

[simple tree]

Well that's exactly why people scream. Because we have Discord as platform. Also because we've had this problem for a while. Yet TGC still repeat their problems. Imagine if we just stop or even "screaming" less. I wonder how much money they expect us to spend

[naive atlas]

i can’t wait to see how live players will react to this if they don’t make changes . it’s gonna be a field day for sure

[rapid reef]

Honestly, if TGC wouldn't have switched that hair to IAP, I would have believed they were making changes for the better, thinking of their community more. So when I learned a few minutes ago that their switched it. And I knew just how popular the item was. It was very obvious that they are preying on their paying customers.

How many seasonal cosmetics did people REALLY like that ended up becoming IAP last minute because people liked it? It's time TGC stop doing this. It's predatory.

[crystal niche]

Omg yes! I was about to buy some iap in Sky, but saw a sky fanmerch that's cheaper than the IAP I wanted. I bought the irl thing instead 😂

[fossil roost]

So far I haven't met a friend who's rejected me for not having a certain cosmetic to fit in since I've first joined. It depends on the group I guess. Yes cosmetics are a nice thing to have, but what about focusing more on the experience instead. I don't think this is about cat ears anymore (●´⌓`●)

[woeful vault]

If it was priced the same as a wizard hat at first, maybe I wouldn't be so sad now But now I feel like I got hope but got robbed by tgc

[zinc sinew]

i am an adult who is more than willing to buy whatever IAP i like, even when its obnoxiously more expensive than it needs to be just bc i can. was more than happy to buy the cat mask + cape IAP!! but after this lmaoo 😭 no thanks im done, im gonna be a F2P player from now on. they are getting too transparent with any grimy decisions now. i have the upmost respect for the team, and i will be showing that respect by not supporting any bad decisions tcg makes

[wanton plover]

People have different interests

[ionic bluff]

i am eating chocolate covered pretzels

[earnest island]

This won’t go away for a while sadly

[naive arrow]

Tgs are enjoying the suffering of the players, probably eating popcorn right now
They're still waiting for us to feed them money

[merry vault]

or even worse.
Like when they add candles to a single object to make it more expensive

[shy knoll]

“it will still be sky”, that type of mindset undermines what everyone here is trying to do, we are sharing feedback because that’s what sky advertises us to do, they want feedback and so the community will deliver on the recently poor decision they made. it will still be sky, but that doesn’t mean people won’t quit just bcuz it’ll stay the same lol

[elder kindle]

Literally Sky is about cosmetics, you can't say it doesn't matter, what makes players stay is because they want to collect cute cosmetics.