#📋︱feedback-discussion
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It's not a thought through feedback, simple as that
You can use plasma and poly in a smart way, not every building is needed, poly tech is just leads focus, f2p could maybe get some done here and there but it not a priority.
just remove morale all together .. its already messing up my fights ... you pick someone with low BP .. in apex .... but loose since your morale is low hehehe
morale is only something they put in .. to make those with deep pockets feel like theyre getting their moneys worth
and most of those " whales " have already left the game
most of my sets are at a comfortable lvl 2 .. just so i can grab the skill from the sets
imagine he realise that in real battles moral not always change any outcomes of a fight and only benefit at apex/immortal because of different fight mechanics
only had luck with one set... :p
back when rewards were plenty in hitman .. and i could get many center pieces
that last one was easy and free to get completed
not if youre bored of combining stuff ... and only reached tier 9 in the event hehehe
took too much " energy " getting from one star to the next so progress was slow compared to last time... so i scrapped the whole thing
might need a mental jacket... if we get it a 4th time in next colab event with even more stuff... maybe penguins mating :p
progress was the same as last time, with a little planning and a little thinking it was very easy to advance
even as f2p ...
I finished weeks ago as a f2p, it's a very f2p friendly event, which is nice
Even though I hate it 
Very boring event... but can at least get free wings lol
You reached what lvl?
You got all the way to the wings
Got the wings and quit 😂
I kinda slackered off and forgot about the event and then realized 2 to 3 days later about it
They really need to stop with the whole overlapping events.
Like do collab and let that be the main focus, dont add Christmas event along with it
Agree with that
They need a new collab event all together
3 times was 2 times to much
And I want it at least a little collab related... cause nothing of events have anything to do with these games
happy to learn how you did this event as f2p ... i did it as mid spender .. and even combining dogs and bees wanted energy ... so i was always out of it...
only place i noticed .. gave energy for doing the splicing... and it barely gave energy
so if theres a better method.. the game is sure happy to hide how you get lots of energy daily :p
If dogs cost energy then that's why you're using so much 
All you do is make sure to do gems, clovers and any other areas which grant free stamina for it.
If need be set up an auto clicker overnight when asleep to use up stamina or produce dogs
Path to secrets was good for free energy
But ofcourse people fomo'd and used all clover each round
Dogs never cost energy 😅
I think someone said that in their alliance a f2p got the wings
Not sure but lana got and is f2p i think?
Not impossible... I have minimum 3 in my alliance who done it f2p
Lana is f2p yeah
It is very possible
Im like a few lvls away but yeah not gonna happen since today is last day
You are too lazy to play it even without being f2p 
i hoped for the chests like last collab where you could choose between the 3 currencys for shop and energy for play the event
Lies, whale
F2p with a pack here and there sure
Real f2p 0 spend taking all energy from clover (without the pass) nope. 56k is to high
You get 18.300 + 70x10 over the whole event for free in energy if you miss 0 times.
Without buying the crate also. Thats not enough
F2p can do it
Just play it smart and make sure to take all free energy from other events
Yeah, i got them f2p. Its very doable
sure... but i also play this game for fun .. not as work .. keeping my FOMO in check ...only thing i log on for .. not to miss is jungle gems ... need to reach that lvl 20 .. at all cost LOL
Also without the crate
You get bad contracts
Since your item is not maxed + little dogs
I had 5 dog beds. Might be smaller dogs but they merge 😂
Can keep mutiple dog beds rather than merge all into one so get more dogs overall
Just play smart
5 beds without spending ?
You got the crate prettt sure
Crates
I got 5 smalls too
On f2p
But had the crate
Thats not f2p
🤣
Which gave me 2
I had 5 level 4 beds 
Exactly🤣
And I have not spent 😂
Max small bed you can have is what ? 8 ?
I can't remember if merged all together when I finished 🤣
bye bye colab... got Heather as high as i can manage... with medium spender privileges .. 40 frags short of lvl 6 and some small boosts from echoes
help me obi wan Ah ... you're my only hope
Ah yes, nothing says f2p like maxed item generators
🤣
The clear board shows its not f2p too 🤣
Can't clear the dog squares for free
I gave up on that merge thing after a week. Because its a glitchy mess. Tap 2-3 times to get something to come out. Bad merge registration. Everything about it was painful.
I missed out on stuff, don't care. My mental health is improved though
like doesnt matter .. if you had a lvl 2 or lvl 4 basket... the same 1st tier materials popped out of it so endless combining I wouldnt want to spend 30 mins a day doing
Higher tier gives better contracts
Wasn't about the contracts. Tap-tap-tap 1 item. Repeat 2-3 times till you get an actual match (about 16 taps cos glitchy) now merge, except it picked the wrong thing. Or dropped it on the wrong spot. Or even just put both in the same square but didn't merge anything. Repeat ad-f-ing-nauseum. I was better off in life not playing
Last time with terminator bought a crate and ended early, this time went full free and got wings... have to have a little luck with contracts
lvl 6 oven and still getting 70% first lvl items ... thats so wrong
at lvl 6 it should .. at least result in making these .. without merging
If you buy the pigs daily for 50 rabbit heads, get a pile of easy energy 😋
intend to make a post about it... but afraid i would just get more flack about it.. something else needs fixing 1st... not this :p ... this is just one of 50 things need fixing.. the bugs\tedious bucket is overflowing :p
Throw it out if they won't fix the coding..
Matching always been rigged, lesser item drops and contracts always wanting what you dont have
Working as intended
Yup designed to annoy people and get them to spend 😆
..or give up and not get rewards..
win one more game for 50 legendary frags... yeah been there plenty of times .. but then u loose and it resets ... instead of being a ladder of do 10 games of RR for " this reward "
which would be more fair
but fair doesnt sell upgrade bundles
can I convert them 6800 coins into something useful at all ... last times I only ended up with a bunch of RSS crates i imagine came from these colab coins
The coins are just a milestone of how far you got... not worth anything
just wondering since last colab ... I ended up with thousands of crates of tomatoes ... when warrior coins would be far better
Hmm not sure likely from some other leftover items... the matching coins are just markers... don't get any rewards from them
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This game just want you're money..
A bit okay , much? ...i have to pay bills take care off my kids. I hate gold diggers
Get a real life , work and feel it😌
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Devs need to address the whole new t.a issue, either remove current materials for S3 t.a or add them to store and allow us to convert old material towards new materials
I think the idea that older generations can be transformed is very nice.
I still have plenty of old gen reforce essences
Finally hit a tidal escape window in some downtime when i wasn't doing anything else.
Gotta say, wow, how boring. This is what we get for development for the store this time? Not that we should need to develop the store... but godsthis is an awful minigame
Agreed.. It's boriing.. I decided to skip that game and the event
I hated that if I survived the whole 14-15min I lose
I liked the overall idea though very close to Survival Royale concept which I like .. but maybe not as MIGO event 🤔
Worse than royale. Too big of a map, speed march is awful takes 1 min and by that time someone already raided the spot. Game doesn't tell us how many are inside the map let alone how many are left after evac
The loot are random and not designated to a specific area so it like Easter, what will you find inside the egg
so apparently if you report on this the devs give you the middle finger and make it worse later. Absolutely horrible match, with not one but three larger than life players that made this match unbearable. FIGURE IT OUT
Because the issue is they dont know
If they don’t know, by now, then they are ignorant
many struggling with RR and KOTH matching lately. would be good if devs can figure this out
Too many variables but they do know how to classify people for transfer despite some being a tier that they shouldn't be
The issue is grandmaster is too small a class when their should be one higher for transfer. And if devs don't want to fix that then they dont want to for marchings because then who will they match them with
Suggesting they measure by alliance BP is genuinely an awful idea anyway 😅
Reason why i originally downvoted it
Everything else ok but alliance bp is not the best route
It’s the worst route, let’s measure based on something that means absolutely nothing
So if people have 50 mil troops but are say p10 vs p18 with 10 mil troops thats one sore matching
The RR raid scores are just broken, since they made updates last time. Most of our joiners have 1.089m raid score, some of those people could burn others with the same score
It makes no sense
That was meant to be A factor, not THE factor. Don’t match a 120b alliance with a 375b alliance. Not that hard
But it shouldn’t be a factor. They do consider player BP atm and that’s part of the problem
The whole event is bad and the collection is purely RNG based and also limited tries
Not 25% of the people will have the chance to collect the whole collection
If 120b alliance has 3 mega whales and 27 strong joiners they could easily beat 375b alliance without. If you don’t get that you don’t understand the game
We matched with a 25B BP and pretty sure my state lead with 13B will beat him
Devs need to upgrade the who rr talents
The talents are good but the current percentage especially for guarding hq is very low
Fully get that. Thus later on in the same message that the raid score needs some drastic overhaul. I have alliance members with similar raid score as I do that I could run circles around.
First thing I ask a player if theu say they burn fast is
" is your wall upgraded ?"
Then they look and have G8 heroes on the wall

Agree, I’m just saying that point is wrong. There’s been a lot of discussion here recently about feedback and how because the devs pick and choose what they listen to it can be dangerous lol. Next thing you know we have an entire system based on alliance BP
The days when you laughed when someone had joker on the wall
Suicidal person
I still see that
And wacko
Didn’t think of that. But you’re 100% correct. In the grand scheme of things it’s the raid score that needs 90% of the attention
Im like bro remove them resonate heroes
The need to do matching based on top 18 heroes rather than all heroes because who gonna use blue heroes in rr. All the basic stuff not including all t.a.
Not morale but based on collection rating
You didn't see everyone is switching to control marches now ?
Such fun seeing them bounce
I mean blue heroes like rusty and ghost
Or purple heroes, non limitless, gen 19 and below for old states
These heroes need to be excluded from Match rating. Because they are categoried all together
Ooohhh even better
But agreed their was a content creator video saying their is a comeback for blue control heroes but still very difficult to manage unless the rl stats are almost equal
Control gains strength but yellow still better.
Maybe if you have the correct TA and genes to match it with but still doubt it.
Not enough blue resonate heroes
Agreed
With the new resonate heroes being yellow it was practically a tell saying red and yellow are your best bets
Should be able to delete blues to not waste plasma
How to get high moral
Why? 
Collect sets and upgrade them to higher star levels
I ignore that thing half the time 
when is this game ever gonna do a fair matchmaking with their events, first they screw us over by putting our states with 2 /3 year older states then still cant do a decent matchmaking, well done devs, keep collecting your money, hope the game dies in 2026
They are trying to kill it when they match us with an alliance so far out of our ranking we have no chance
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did you win ?
the day the roles are reversed, you would burn the whole smaller alliance down and you know it
that day... ' fair matching ' won't be an issue but there will be said ' take the free win '
Shhhhh
No one like the truth anyways
Exactly complain when they bad matchup but next rr matchup you are all hour chasing after them
Like once in a blue moon you get even matchups and then horrible but i dont deny that if their some small folks i be up and all over them 😂
That's why i prefer L2
nope, never burn anyone unless I have to. All posts here would be improved if you all stopped acting like youre talking for everyone or have the faintest idea how a company like funplus works.
Oh I’m not saying we wouldn’t be happy with a win. I even said that in my original comment 😂 and we still complain about unfair matching when it happens the other way as well
Nah man, it’s not like they. We steady get bad matches with zero chance of winning. Y’all enjoy yourselves though
" unless I have to "
You never HAVE to
You WANT to
Not me. Only time I want to is when others start hitting us
Or when you want to zero half a state cause they don't contribute to SVS in a way you want ?
Sorry but we are 99,999+ not even an actual ranking matched against a rank 20 alliance and you are cool with it 😂
I have never done that and have left states that pull that mess
It's you who suggested it
We are in a state now with many alliances that don’t fight in svs

no, I never want to, hate it
Then you never have a reason
Sorry, what are you talking about? I suggested what?
What else are you supposed to do 😂
1109
cant even do trucks, feels so mean lol

yep
I feel you are joking
Still not sure what you’re on about
For your own protection I'll the screenshots out of it so you can keep saying you don't know about it
"" For me it's not about dropping migration at a\ It's about getting a small portion of the actual game mechanics back. I don't know that there's any alliance even in this discord past the top 12. Why is it so important to protect them and why can't they use a bubble for the less than 48 hours of KE? (KE ends at start of CC) ""
reasons would be, eg, if someone was attacking me or my alliance unfairly. that would be a have to situation imo
Okay I give you that point 
Yeah that doesn’t say anything about zeroing half the state 🤣🤣way to take it out of context. We were talking about allowing hits during KE
We are talking about burning those that don't
help the state. Outside of the top 12 (and farm
alliance to the top 12) these people never
participate or help the state.
For me it's not about dropping migration at a
It's about getting a small portion of the actual
game mechanics back. I don't know that there's
any alliance even in this discord past the top 12
Whv is it so important to protect them and why
can't they use a bubble for the less than 48
hours of KE? (KE ends at start of CC)
I can copy paste it all
Like I said... you don't NEED to. You WANT to
👀
First of all, I don’t care what you copy and paste. I’m more concerned why you’re so wounded and fragile to bring up something that has nothing to do with what this page is meant for
We mentioned attacking people for a scheduled game event with rules of only hitting once, not zeroing
If you even think anything below top 12 counts into svs matching you need to get your " game mechanics " back on track cause you don't know a lot of things
They can at least push prep
And not push warfare
The game mechanics I was referring to was KE. We weren’t allowed to participate in those game mechanics. You even quoted me saying that it had nothing to do with matching
Sorry to say but if you keep pushing sof and be liability to state. You leave it
And otherwise burning is completlt justified
No one need farmers that make your leads get top ranks harder
Hoard for 6 months just to push sof ye get out
Don't talk to me about fair game if you would so exactly the same thing as the bigger people as you
You got humbled in RR... happens to all of us, move on 
I also said I’m not one to participate in KE and don’t usually burn people. Could you copy and paste that one too?
I don't really do KE, just think making a statewide NAP when there are over 100 alliances in the state kills the game mechanics completely
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Dude, back off me. I am humble and was actually laughing more than mad. We get beat more on RR than we win. Being matched against an alliance 600b stronger than us is a problem
Thank you
My alliance once matched with fnx a time ago
Still feel us burning cause we were smaller

Good for you 😂 what is a long time ago to you?
Before 09
I never mentioned burning once about the match. I mentioned the fact that a 300b alliance was matched against a 900b alliance. Thats my issue. You can be evenly matched and still get burnt in RR. It’s not the burning or losing I have an issue with. It’s being matched with someone every two weeks that you have zero chance of beating
I for one wasn’t there at that time. So maybe let it go cuz it’s been a year since they were in another state prior to 1109 😂
We matched with 58th not long ago, 2 weeks later we match with what you call a stack of farms, it happens 
Matching sucks but it'll never change. Take the losses and take the wins and hope for the occasional decent match 😂
This is true
Just helps to come and vent sometimes or even laugh at the matching system, which was what my original comment was doing 😂
Carrot and stick. Sometimes youll be used to make a big alliance feel good. Sometimes you'll be used to make a smaller alliance spend.
Rarely at the top of things will you gwt a fun even match because they want to force spending or show its worth.
For mid spenders or f2p all the fun is in the even matches. If you want those it seems to happen most at 10 people or less
You might face a whale still, but they can't be everywhere or take everything with 6 marches
Thos of course solves nothingm its just been the game for 5 years now and expecting change on matching is futile and naive
Legion 2 is better for matching
Yeah agree with that
But a little less seasonal rewards i thought
I get it. Been playing over 4 years. I’ve just never seen a match this bad before
Can be worse
You've been either lucky, or your alliance spend has reduced
Could've matched with FIT
😂
👀
Hi Milky
Hello Kara 😍😘
and you are?
Apparently since you’re still mad about losing to FNX over a year ago. That must have been a bad match 😂
Daddy wick hurts okay 
Not allowed here 
Hi lovelies! Please let's keep the gifs in memes and gifs channels 
Hi hi! 
If you want you can submit a feedback about this in #📋︱feedback-reporting 
I agree to be honest!
Have you already submitted a feedback about this?
I apologize if you already did that. I was at work so I'm trying to catch up 
Game is never going to do fair matching. Ever. Ever ever. Not from now until it finally is killed. Not happening.
They'll pay it as much lip service as you want though
Some matches are just so bad you have to smile and laugh, my alt alliance faced group of 5 whales (20 vs 5) and got destroyed... it happens 😂
Please expand the search area. Needing to search for level 9 resources manually is boring. Same for fiends
Search lazy
Cause all it'll do is mean more will take those without manual searching then back to same problem
Am I mistaken if I suspect operation festival at reset?
Wow no changes i see
Me too but nah
Guess its a quiet week
shhhh dont tell them that
Well we have Jg again so still busy and its megaphone related
maybe someone here knows... but why does it cost less to roll all 4 stats ... than it does rolling only one stat ... while in my mind it should be the other way around !! always costs more to change all 4 tires on a car than 1 tire hehe
Locked vs unlocked stats
When you lock you are saving that slot because it is better as opposed to open when you dont care for it

I rarely see people with less logical thinking then the devs. But every now and then someone comes out and (sadly) .. suprises me
I think we still blocked
Idk if you are but for a fact he didn't see my msg
Or he ignores you 
I cant upvote or downvote his feedback still so im blocked
But agreed there are some people with very questionable brainscells.
maybe he will do a feedback about it 🤣

my eyes are bleeding from looking at that skill.. change it 😂
Its not that hard
If you running low on potions unlock them all andjust keep going and cancel. Then switch over and lock the ones you want to keep.
But never will i have blue skill such a waste for genes
Trust me, nothing bleeds from having that skill
What's the point of this research if the description fails to tell you all information needed, and therefor players miss out on a extra ticket?
CS fails to compensate for the missing ticket.
I imagine you will get the extra ticket same day you had it last week (it probably has a 7 days cooldown or something)
you're doing it completely wrong, first get a skill you want. Then lock that and get the stats
The research was done yesterday, but yesterday's free Tidal Escape was already claimed.
Today is a new week, the 2 tickets were indeed received after claiming today's free Tidal Escape ticket. But the free one from "last week"/yesterday is gone, atleast that's what CS is saying.
Yeah not that surprised. If you had done the research on wednesday you would have had 2 tickets on thursday. Then again 2 tickets next thursday. They could be more clear but... it's SOS 🙄
Yeah if it was described more clearly, my friend wouldn't have bought the pack to be able to do the research yesterday.

We need a ranking list within the alliance of the amount of 3d modules donated
they changed the description its used to say tickets
You get the extra ticket the day after you unlocked this part
No we don't. Will only create alliance drama
i unlocked mine before the event actually opened so should have had the extra one today but didnt , so its a con really
but i have come to expect such
We do because some people are slacking and they can play elsewhere instead of rising everyone else's backs
Exactly my point
They have been doing it for a long time.
Now you NEED them to be active and they aren't

And for that they can bye bye
Won't help you a single bit but you do you 
It's not helping riding everyone else regardless. Better to have it on paper that you don't contribute so matching score can be lowered to ease the burden on the actives
Yes today there were 2, but today is also new week.
So the free ticket from yesterday (last week) is gone
with FP having the communication skills of a grain of sand, what do you expect, they dont care about anything except their pay slip
Because it is only active the reset after you unlock it and then 7 days cooldown.
You didn't miss anything
There is no way to upgrade the hovercraft without bundles after a very vary low level (could do only 7 upgrades in total).
The tasks from tidal are limited and materials in migo store are not enough to go above it.
And there is no other way to get these without bundles
I guess we'll find out on sunday then🤣
I unlocked it last week (middle of the week) and didn't receive the extra ticket today because it wasn't 7 days yet.
I don't remember exactly when it was so I don't know if it will be 7 days since I unlocked it or 7 days from the day I received the first ticket. I believe it will be the 2nd
For Abyssal Skirmish, can people still do a super alliance for SVS battle day and then come back to their own alliance to finish Skirmish and get their rewards, or does this sentence in the instructions mean that leaving your alliance for a day cancels your ability to get Skirmish rewards? It’s not clear if you can leave temporarily and then return.
Is there a log of who did what upgrades for the Alliance warship? Or feedback on getting one implemented like they did for Nexus.
sadly no
Okay thank you
"They listen to feedback and do their own thing from it, hence why a lot of feedback made on certain events only tends to make it worse 99% of time."
So basically they just do their own thing and apologists here blame the players for feedback? Instead of focusing on the greed and ineptitude of scamplus?
So every time people have suggestions on improving an event they should not bother with feedback. Just in case it draws attention to the specific feature.
Why not call out scamplus instead of the players?
So take this...#📋︱feedback-reporting message
as an example. Are we now expecting them to reduce the chance of obtaining a platinum card to 1% from the current 10%. Just because feedback was submitted?
@sweet meteor Hola…. No idea if this is the right page…. But I got some questions about matching😅. How can it be we(my alliance 122bp) ALWAYS fight much stronger opponents? In RR, KOTH, Nexus…… we always meet alliances 3-4 times stronger😅.
Has this to do with f2p? My alliance is all about f2p
Is combat morale also counted with matching?
Has State BP something to do with opponents we meet?
Yes and no.
Yes, they'll do what they want FP wise even if it has nothing to do with any feedback raised, quoted in their dev feedback or do something along the lines of the feedback but in a much different manner.
FP does get attacked for it, they have a lawsuit against them for such things and players will do their own complaints, quit, stop spending etc.
However, although FP is the source of the problem, we also have some sway in it, which is why feedback can get mass downvoted in hopes it slips under FP radar.
A feedback could be good, but not well thought out or explained. Which tends to be the case more often than not.
They could very well do that yes, could make the odds much worse, increase the frags needed to craft a card / obtain it. Remove those types of crates from rewards that f2p get making it pure p2w.
But that's not what you were saying. You said feedback draws attention to the topic and scamplus just does the opposite.
Why you have to be careful with feedback and what you say in it, you can have the best intentions but FP will not.
It does yes, 99% of the time.
So essentially just don't post feedback at all
But why are we blaming the players? Fk scamplus
There's been a handful of feedbacks that have been implemented, but out of the 100000s that have been made, some of them are very "meh"
Players should better, its still down to FP at end of the day, but when you have some who have played for ages and know well enough not to make such feedback or comments.
Then they can only be blamed when devs decide to zero in.
Of course, some will be new players or ones that just aren't aware outside their own bubble
We can attack FP daily, nothing will happen, we can attack players all day, once feedback is submitted its submitted, so devs "will" see it
But the less up votes it has the less likely they'll react or notice it
I don't care if someone submits feedback. Players have a chance to vote, if it has many down votes and still gets implemented then it's scamplus' fault. If feedback has lots of upvotes, and scamplus does the opposite again it's scamplus' fault for doing what they want. At no point should the player be blamed.
So, yes, could stop submitting feedback, but, if you do submit any just keep in mind of covering all bases and not like some where its basically like give us more free stuff without thinking of the big picture
This is ridiculous. It's attacking people who are legitimately submitting feedback. The anger is aimed in the wrong direction. Blame scamplus, no one else.
If say I made a feedback, to release a new tier of troops of more plasma.
That's probably in the works already, but by making such feedback it draws attention to it more and they could speed it up.
As soon as I make that feedback, its sent to devs, even if it has 10000 downvotes
So how was asking for more plasma, which was as specific as it gets, to allow f2p to level up their plasma level attacked here by certain players? They have a rod up their behinds or work for scamplus?
If they decided to reply to that what you think the mood of the player base would be and who would be blamed for making it in the spotlight
You're arguing intricacies that have no bearing on things. It's scamplus that makes the decision to do the opposite of feedback.
You are right in saying this, just sadly aint always that simple
Scamplus. Not the player.
Both, ultimately FP of course, but also me for brining it to attention.
Let me show you if its not been deleted
Nah. That's ridiculous. Then get rid of the feedback system. It's not listened to anyway.
Now, what's being asked for here is 500 daily free plasma minimum, plus whatever poly on top.
I don't see the problem. What's the issue?
Plasma is only a tiny part of the power gap
What will happen to everything else that uses plasma, will devs not see an issue with people not needing to buy plasma and poly bundles as its not much more obtainable?
Will they increase the costs to match this thus making the feedback pointless?
Will they just remove the plasma building altogether so we can't get it for free anymore?
It's simply not a well thought out or explained feedback
All it is, is i want more free stuff
It feels this would be best at times
It is. They said it's to close the plasma gap between spenders amd f2p. That's the reason. It's a small part of the power that can be addressed by adding more free plasma.
Honestly I feel the new tempest arms being released was somehow linked to a similar feedback ages ago about the sticks
If they did it and not change anything else, it wouldn't really affect anything, in my eyes, nothing would break and no whales couldn't suddenly burn the little guys
I doubt FP would see it that way though, it would just mean less bundles brought
Ah so scamplus greed is stopping them from doing it. Some of the buildings require about 150 poly to upgrade 1/5 of each plasma level. Cba to calculate the number of days required to catch up even of they gave us what was asked. It's literally months.
If i had to guess yes, greed and simply not caring about us
It would actually make many happy if they all of a sudden could catch up on plasma related areas.

Exactly. And plasma level is a tiny portion of the ppwer gap now with pets, tempest, behemoths etc.
It would be nice, but they just wont do it 😅
If they did then it be if one of us managed to get a job there
3845 Poly
8830 Plasma
For full p18 (HQ+ all 3 troop type buildings)
From p16 to p18.
that's easy
At what rate are you assuming they can gather that as a f2p?
I have a few f2p's in my alliance that have P18 + troops + wall + in between did T12
That's assuming that f2p is already at p16
Wanna give us some numbers instead of "I know some people"?
The rate of plasma and poly acquisition
and note these are not people from oldest states
we started in 1102
So we got P15 and P18 the same time as older states with WAY less time to gather plasma
So let's say a month.
128 poly per day plus
294 plasma per day
I think your f2p aren't exactly f2p. Especially considering the poly conversion gets more expensive.
I've seen people ( 699 * cough * ) complaining about not having enough poly for p18 as f2p but in the meanwhile showing off 12K plasma sitting in the backpack
They are in fact F2P and have been playing with me for years
You also get plasma from Intel, event shops and rewards etc. Not just simply from the plasma building.
Suuure. At 128 poly and 294 plasma per day acquisition rate? Then I'm a whale
No they just skipped what isn't worth the plasma and poly and focussed on being a solid joiner instead of upgrading and wasting everything
Every pearl shop gives 100 poly, it comes round once every week. That's 400 of the 3845 you need for a month
Lucky cards event ?
I made p18 f2p 
Those numbers are for p16 to p18. Hq and troops only.
easy a few tousand plasma there
yes but by skipping the stuff they shouldn't be upgrading they could save some plasma in between
That's 2000 plasma. Polys are in batches of 5 there.
there isn't poly there
I know because i did that today
Lucky slots, lucky cards, whatever. If it fits his narrative, its good 😂
Lucky cards and lucky slots
Lucky cards your luckiest would be a x4 of 250 plasma every time it comes round. As f2p you're safer to make sure you can complete a round so at best x4 every 2 lucky cards
Wrong
Can be 7x
lucky cards isn't ' lucky ' at all
Borderline every event tends to give plasma in stores and smart upgrading also helps as Dwight says
it's pre programmed
1000 of your 8830 plasma
At best
doesn't matter what you take, what card you flip
Anyways. Still easy to get plasma as f2p
Not saying it isn't. But why can't it be easier?
Its ok how it is
Seems the majority want that too. Go on tell us how stupid they are.
I almost never buy plasma. Just taking out of the shops for free as much as i can get. Lucky bags is also 300 plasma
Just saying
I get the need for more ' free ' plasma but there are enough ways to gather it as is as well
300 of your 8830 plasma. Before factoring in polys
Plasma is the least of the problems in this game for f2p
that's because you use all the cards every time it's on, thats dumb, you gotta save em up
Wrong. If f2p can get t12 troops it at least makes them useful
Plasma gets easier and easier to get over time. Flashback to when it first came out and you only had a $5 bundle that started at like 8 plasma or whatever. Now there's multiple areas to get it from, and as time goes on there will be more
Plasma from svs ranking. Plasma for sotf rewards. Plasma for power play. Etc etc it sums up
I also finished t12s 
But plasma isnt the problem
Its everything else 😂
I'm not f2p. But I'm sure as hell going to argue the case for f2p instead of the greed of scamplus. Makes the game more competitive all round.
Well. It will never ever be competitive again.
I'd rather they made upgrading companions easier than offering more plasma
Agree with that. So it's even more pointless to not give more plasma for free to lower hq players.
Theyre more important for starters
like lana said, plasma isn't the problem, the problem is huge things behind a paywall and only scraps to f2p ....
Take the eagle, yeti, mechs, spacecraft for example, there are the things that need be more accesable to f2p even from the start
Why would they. In the end, they want to earn money
You could submit feedback for that too. But if they make it harder I'm blaming you.
Like I said. Scamplus greed. Nothing to do with player feedback at all.
They'd probably remove the free conversions we get as it is if they could
Nothing will change. Just enjoy the last days/ years ….
Then let people give the feedback they feel they want to give. Up or downvote it as you wish.
I've been saying that for years! Can we submit feedback to scrap the feedback?
when do we get competent devs?
Is that a rhetorical question? 🤔
Mongoose, I've gone ahead and dm'd you so we could discuss your questions further without getting lost in the mix of chatter 😁
Giving feedback is completely useless; hundreds of feedback requests have already been made for years about this and nothing has been resolved
95 feedbacks on match making in the last 2.5 years. More before that. Has it improved at all? Has it fk
Koth tiers are bad. Transfers mess up the tiers so they're always bad until they level out
While we may have had a lot of feedback on matchmaking in the years, I certainly want to be sure they get what answers I can provide 🤗
I like the enthusiasm, upvoted #📋︱feedback-reporting message
maybe <@&628563208164081690> can answer this, we have been told before that feedback is monitored by the Devs but with the amount of negative feedback on things like the new season will they now admit that the Devs dont care about feedback, and with the lack of support from anyone paid by the company in this server, it is no longer an official channel
solution is for Mods to stop doing the CMs work for them, have them post any/all updates and/or game information
Let the CMs etc prove they are actually there or at least pretend to care what the community think
Hello shadow 
The game infocand updates are posted by someone from the funplus team in the broadcast in game.
So our mods copy it from there and share it here because not everyone checks broadcast 
Hi Tallie, sorry but the fact that the CM hasnt got back to you proves either their isnt one anymore or they are at the very least unprofessional and ant the worst incompetent
I would assume that they might be on vacation but is honestly just an assumption
and dont blame the holidays as according to the Devs themselves holidays dont count
Yeah but devs there are more so i guess always someone to be there
remember CC on Xmas Day and their reason
same applies to this
if and i say if the supposed the current CM is on vacation then the Devs or senior management should have arranged cover
contacting Mods with the temp contact information
Yes i see your point, i will honestly push and ask again
if not within 48 hours i want to escalate this to a formal complaint against the current CM
because under UK law all companies operating into or from the UK should have a fully articulated complaints procedure
Hopefully you/we get an answer sooner
If it helps you i have seen a ss from the test bracket and therre were 50 slots on the event
i wint hold my breath waiting
We don’t want a blue shadow
you dont want to see a red one either 
red is good, blue not so much usually
red isnt that good especially when awards season is coming up
for games, not that most of the awards the game/company are supposed to have won are industry wide or recognised
Ohhh i didn’t know these were in January
yeah most good ones are, not sure about ones you have to pay for

i guess there goes my chance of ever being a Mod lmao, not that i would ever be considered anyway
Ud make a good one!
Hmm how to claim the set progress rewards in Holiday Jubilee when event gone?
I mean the bonus for set accomplishing
Rewards as wings and exclusive HQ are send after reset so was impossible to collect them till today...
Not innocent at all Tallie , I’m the innocent one here !
So .. who else out there would like to have this .. on their reduction planer .. I would !!
Just call it hero development ... :p
You too poor
Stupid idea considering the amount of frags you can get on the hero especially f2p
Oh wait I'm blocked so he cant see response from people who tell it like it is
there's a little something called.. making the game easier to continue playing... i do fine for serums thanks .. there's people from all kinds of backgrounds playing this game.. and i for one would like to see this game continue .. rather than continue loosing players .. like we done over the last 1,5 year 🙁
and no this isnt for frags... its the 4000 something serum we need for one hero from 0 --> max
couldnt care less for pills... we get those thrown at us .. just when shutting our eyes
Not hard to get frags
You get 1k potions from migo store for 30k of the currency
If you do 120 spins thats about another 300 to 500 potions for mileage each rays place along with 30 something new hero frags
If you are lucky and do all spins you can get 50 crates to 80 crates which gives old gen hero frags and additional potions. Thats 500 to 800 potions.
If you are gen skip i can understand not having tons of potions but then again been there and done that. For gen skip focus on new gen and 1 gen behind and save the rest for next gen.
Also for f2p they should be glad what they receive and not try and ruin it by asking for everything to be free. You say devs should worry about the players that keep leaving they dont hve to worry because someone else will replace them.
One whale leaves 2 or 3 replace them
But if you insist on that type of discount i dont mind but devs dont care much about feedback unless it gives them more reason to make the gap bigger and f2p to spend more to survive longer
They will not
People are begging for Dino for 2 years and no response
F2P can get so many completion and advanced completion daily
74 for free just from power play
And From Rays
Don’t break what is working for people , because once they add this here , they will remove something else far more valuable and far less available
Hi Teta, if you're looking for ways to obtain Elena, it is available in the Migo store once your hovercraft cabin is at level 25. Hope this helps 🤗
a level which is next to impossible to get without spending a small fortune
yes, it seems that it will be quite difficult to get there without spending. I'm only at level 4 now 
Lol,
A simple thing with this Migo!! Always on the consumer's side!!! Thanks SOS
its nearly impossible though even with spending and a few other tricks to get there
The problem is not SOS, it's us who love being made fun of by SOS
I'd better keep quiet, I only have swear words to say right now.
Bye
2 problems with this.
- In migo store only a blue pilot is available, basically rusty level pilot.
- You can't go past level 7(or less) with your hovercraft without buying bundles
thats part of the issue with PTR, they give them diamonds to complete stuff so never see how hard it will be for the average player, the Devs should be forced to play as f2p
well thats IF the devs knew how to use PTR in the first place
Yes, I can definitely relate to that. I'm not sure at the moment how much we will be able to progress from the nexus event itself. Hopefully they will prepare options for us to upgrade the pilot through other events later on
no they will add options to buy packs to lvl the pilot up and add 5 more
They don't show any upgrade parts in the alliance event and even if they there is some parts there it will be only a few every 2 weeks.
With the solo event and migo store you can't go pass lvl7 it is ridiculous
unless the pilot only has 3 lvls which is quite plausable
remember its not a normal hero
I'm talking about the hovercraft, the pilot will be useless, it is blue one I don't care for it
hovercraft is pretty easy to upgrade both alliance and solo
Impossible after lvl7
yes, i think that's probably the route they will take for the pilot
I finshed all solo event tasks, empty migo store and that it can't get more
not if you spend its not
lvl 21 for me
but i jump-started this migo, but thats a different story
That what I'm saying, can't do it without bundles
even without hovercraft bundles their are/were a few tricks
none of which i will post here lol
as much as i hate this migo, i took advantage of the test day for the solo part, built up as much as possible
oh, i got excited. i thought you would share your tips and tricks with us Shadowlord 
cant if i did, they might disappear for the next one
but i will say sometimes you have to rob peter to pay paul and what that means i will let you work out 
That's fair. I'll try to work that riddle out and see if i can find the answer 😆
with the solo part though always remember to grab where you start first, then go for the mission, dont go straight to the mission pick up places on route, especial the fish and or dragons
But these tasks didn't reset, I couldn't claim them twice after the test
you also need to watch where others die, i have picked up some great stuff from there
You find materials in the event? Not just the tasks?
I never saw anything like that in the event
no i sell the stuff after, dropping off useless things
And that only give you coins to use in migo store but it is useless if there is no materials left in the store
true but its also the migo tasks i have all the hovercraft ones maxed
but i also think the gear should reset each week
Migo tasks?
They don't give parts to upgrade the hovercraft
true but their are things they do give you, the 8th attempt weekly, more profit, faster hovercraft etc
extra safe spots
And none of these things give you parts for the hovercraft
There are only 3 way (3.5) to get parts for the hovercraft.
- Migo solo event tasks that are limited
- Migo store that is very limited
- Bundles
and most leads will be spenders
Can also have few parts from the pass by upgrading the hovercraft but it is almost nothing
All of the free parts when maxed will take up to lvl7 at most
then you work on the migo tasks to help out your alliance
you wont get the highest points but thats the same in any migo
let the spenders take the brunt, but be their to help them out, even if its only with a lvl 7
at lvl 7 you can max at least one of the crew to help for the alliance battle
yes its a junk event for solo but migo always has been, so this one you have to think more about the alliance, working for the good of them
Not even attempting to defend the hovercraft event. It is the single worst world event thing they've done.
Abput all I'll give it is that it loaded properly and you can play a full game
F2p should be glad of what they get? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically, yes. But the devs need to balance that against a viable game. If all the f2p leave the whales have nothing to step on and the game collapses. Which its doing, slowly. Because the devs suck at balance, either in what they give f2p, which i actually think is pretty reasonable, vs what the grant paying customers, which i think is way too much, comparatively.
Thanks scamplus for letting me burn in one march. For making sure rally leads don't want me in their rallies. Then when we try to stick to our lane, and play with similar level people the match making system pairs us with absokite whales anyway. What a ridiculous effing statement
Thats what i mean about them giving too much to the paying customers. More and more power for money.
One way they could balance it is to give f2p more.
Not that they'll do anything. They won't give them more, and they won't slow down on new features.
I'd prefer the big ticket items were less powerful. They could also flatten out tempest arms more.
Can always be less 
Look at the new gene link for aero.. flat out " double damage "
As if it's not strong enough as is 🤣
Ye I'm sure they're really glad 
Genuinely what f2p get is ok. Would we all like more, sure. But most of that is because the paid option is so far ahead. If morale provided less boost, or better didn't exist. If the bonuses and skills from statues were tiny. And of course if every TA was technically good, and the difference was which hero you put it on rather than did you roll the 18 dice correctly.
is it possible to return old graphics anyhow? i never liked this one and i always have red dot at portrait now
this option disappeared after data was updated
Most of the issues can be solved with a better matchmaking system. Not by giving f2p more
I would say what f2p gets WAS ok and is still ok in some features.
for example pearls, you were able to get a lot of pearls every jungle gems. I used to be able to get a lot of pearls every super tycoon...now after they nerfed it it's not that easy like before. And now they nerfed pinball madness too, you can barely get any silver coins after they removed all the 500-100 silver coins and replaced them with 1 coin. same with the gold coins
It's becoming really frustrating now...
Well let's wait for them to do that then.... ⏰
Pretty sure that's bugged
They won't fixed it.
Now with putting " tiers " for matching system it's even gonna get worse.
During the last nexus the same. You had the option to stay in same tier which resulted in more then half the whale alliances staying in lower tier just to get an easy win
I matched the same alliance twice. Even though they won nexus without even trying the first time
So match making won't get fixed, and people here seem to think "f2p should be glad to get their scraps". We seem to be at an impasse here... What gives?
Because they never give more for " free " there will be an extra event we didn't ask for or they will jack up prices elsewhere that what we do get extra. Won't make any difference
So it seems scamplus are not only ignoring the growth in the power gap. They're actively engaged in maintaining it?
And been doing it for a while ...
They " improved " intel by putting the intel help but at the same time reduced the amount of plasma in intels, reduced the amount of trap cells which results in less alliance silver.
They improved fishing event by upping bait gained in idle but at the same time either removed all useful items or the one they were there, jacked up the prices 50%
People wanted more different rewards in jungle gems. So they swich what you get but by doing so, also removed pearls from the event
Whenever they " improve " people need to go looking not at what is extra. But what isn't extra and they will see nothing is an improvement.
A change to draw focus away from what they nerved 
i think they just have no clue what is going on in the game
So basically they want to maintain the power gap, by stealth nerfing other areas.
Was it ever otherwise?
It just got worse since KG developers aren't working on SOS anymore
S3*
Not sure where those can be gotten ?
So greed
I guess s2 good enough for me 🙂
If spending money better to spend on anything else. Tempest ages like milk
They have no desire to shrink the power gap. Not even slowly over time. It shall stay large and get larger.
Tempest wont make a difference
So if the gap is maintained then why the hostility to those asking for more for f2p? It doesn't matter right, since scamplus tweaks other areas to maintain the gap anyway
Cos it has way too much potential to make things worse.
Generally they're terrible at what they offer but if you make them revisit anything thats OK, they'll make it worse.
FF is genuinely an excellent example here. We asked for an update. The only thing on offer was to kill the event altogether.
Nah, why are you blaming the players for this?
The blame should rest wholly and squarely on scamplus
what is FF?
FF stands for Fortress Fight
Usually happens every Friday
Gap is bigger all the way but its overall quite possible to get decent growth quite free or close to free by playing jungle gems during large events.
Both my cat and fox was buildt bred and maxed in a few months with very little spending. Same goes for old spec ops heroes like selena angelica.
But theres still a few paywalls out there like mechs and companions
in a way, i do more for f2p then you do
U get 1 from the migo tree and 5 from boxes when you complete the badges to 4000. Apart from that u can lol
@digital glacier They have taken away old graphics from us 
i hope it was fail which they will fix, i don't want to play ugly graphics
I doubt it, they caved the path for new graphics for some time now with changing the appearance of small things. They don't want people to use the old UI
Fun fact #79
Did you know. On the new FORCED and apparently ONLY GRAPHICS VERSION that now exist.
There is no timer in the enlistment office to recover those "available instantly" troops.
Old graphics had it.
@tepid rivet
Fun fact #80
Its not against sos tos to sell my phone. 😉
Anyone want to buy it?
Dev logic according to their figures (not that you can believe them) Nexus was the top event, if that was so true, why did they cancel it?? to what will be the years most unpopular
cause people asked for it to be cancelled, ofcourse now nexus doesn't seem so bad
i feel you are mixing up the #'s of your funfacts, didn't #80 had something else ?
I felt if I didn't rewrite it, a dumb mod or mod+ would ban me for incinuating breaking tos

Yea not gonna happend then. Good thing s2 is available and good enough for marking traps etc 🙂
Its a bit of a weird thing to make scarse considering they get tax on trading
But again, funplus
2nd that... make them play their own game for 5 months as f2p .. trying to compete vs a whale ... themselves :p
dont forget the orbital stations :p
give us back the option to change back to the old UI!! new UI is rubbish, that's why never used it!!!
Hey, hi, hello! There is currently feedback posted for this. If you haven't already, you can upvote here #📋︱feedback-reporting message
I was sad to see mine had switched this morning when I logged in as well.
just voted
was so disgusted with the change, wasn't paying attention to it lagging when changing from Settlement to Wilderness, not to forget when changing characters
Yes, it is quite rough especially if you have never played in the new UI before. Here's to hoping they can bring the old back to us. 🤗
the fact they removed the option kinda answers that
It's still morning for me, I'm trying to stay positive. I can choose violence later, maybe after coffee.
🤣
@last hazel thank you so much for feedback on graphics I am slightly autistic and seeing that’s been removed has caused me to log off most of the day 😩
My pleasure if you found my feedback a constructive one
I'm having multiple problems including ADHD,
And I don't like changes.
💕
I definitely feel your pain too much visual clutter can’t even put my finger on what’s wrong with it maybe over stimulating?
almost forgot: the default avatar's have changed, and not for the betterer
me ... I only ever used the NEW graphics .. and loved it
but i prefer it having a toggle for new and old .. not forced
don't have a problem with those who do like it, just give us back the choice
using a supped up gaming pc... for me its no problem .. but all that bling bling on a screen can be trouble for those using a phone
Are you sure it doesnt need any proof reading 
and the avatar for Survivor #2 (the default female) looks like they used one of them side-show beach cutouts, but use a too-small hole (if that makes sense... )
What is up with some people 😂
Like how and why would you downvote that 😂
How does it affect anyone that alot players prefer old graphics that lagged less, just stay on new. Why would it be even worth downvoting something that doesnt affect them at all. Must be yelpers.
some people don't like others having a choice
Just trolls trolling...
not anymore, no
yes
prior to yesterday, was still using the old graphics, truly loathe the new UI, which is why never used it (switched to it a couple times just to see what it was like, and changed straight back because of how ugly it is)
i hate the new graphic
Yet it was unavoidable that they will enforce new graphics on everyone😅
Making two UI for the same is way more work than just one
if they need to Free up space .. because of file bloat .. I can think of an event or two .. that is totally not needed .. at my point in the game ... hunt for Travis .. is one of them !!
before taking out graphics option
but its sort of like windows... at one point the needed to stop making updates for windows 10 ... im one of those :p
still havent gone windows 11 ... cause its super bloated
... So it was expected that they would one day remove the old gfx option
I've been reading and reading about it, but this content never showed up for me. Is it right at the beginning of the game? I have an account on 1417.
I dunno if they removed it 
Funny how we could flick between it for well over a year with no issues?
1352 had the option wonder if newer states never did or didn’t know you could
Is this option available right at the start of the game, or does it appear much later?
It was under game settings has been since they introduced the new ones I can’t remember if I’m honest if I toggled it off when I started 1352 I played other states before it and it was a year ago it was just a duller less 3d version I guess
So is it also the graphics that are 3D instead of the 2D with 3D now or just the UI that is forced?
Official in game response is that they performed performance optimisation and removed some outdated resources.
I’m trying to put my finger on it and have an old game screen shot for comparison to new but I guess for most it’s not an issue but some of us it is
Cause it doesn’t make sense if people are saying 3D for the UI…. But the new UI was being slowly enforced over time anyway and was replacing the old one bit by bit
I went over to the new UI like a year ago and got used to it. It’s fine.
But 3D graphics look bad whenever I see it on videos and I’m like wtf is that
But it wasn’t just the way the graphics looked it’s infected and icon stuff as well. Can’t show those because I don’t have screen shots of them lol I think I had a chat screen shot which is the only reason I have bits of the settlement 🤣
Problem isnt getting used to it. But having a game with pvp that requires much ress and is laggy is a bad tradeoff for some graphics
a forced update with no communication as to what it did
i swear the Devs and the rest of the paid staff are getting lazier, if that is even possible
<@&628563208164081690> look at reporting someone need to be kicked in his ...

looks like they think nothing is wrong with that feedback, does that mean the floodgates are open to name and shame
Hiya guys 
That channel is for game related suggestion/feedback always was so lets keep it that way. I appreciate your understanding 
trust me as matters stand tomorrow i wil want to know how to make a formal complaint about the CM or lack of one as the case seems to be
i gave 48 hours for questions to be resolved BUT legally i only need to give 24 hours to allow for international timezones
time to shake the tree I think
Hi hi
Without being 100% sure , I would probably guess that it might take some time to get an answer back from a CM, due to holidays based on what I have noticed the last years,but I could be wrong 
However if you want to complain about a cm, still the best way is through their FunPlus page. 😅
3 months though, also as the Devs said when they decided to run CC on Xmas day, it doesnt matter if its holidays as not everyone celebrates, they cant have it both ways
I get what you mean, but the difference is that the CMs are not devs though. They don't have a say on the decisions some times. They can push for things that we ,as community want,but the devs have the final word
also the FP page doesnt work, emails are also ignored
I highly doubt it that they will answer the next 1-2 days
this is supposed to be an official channel, if the CM is on vacation then a Dev should cover the role
Which makes sense cause it's holidays everywhere 
they dont answer full stop i have used it before
if its holidays everywhere why did that still run things like CC and Nexus on Christmas Day, stop trying to defend the indefensible
A few years ago,we used to have players and dev reps meet up . It went well but even if we keep asking about it,it won't happen .. but then I remember what happened as well 
Do you play cc still?
I don't 
The rewards don't really worth the time
i do for my alliance, but only till we have our points, about an hour
Exactly..if we play we do it for our friends nowadays and not for the rewards cause they are outdated.
Plus the event is boring since the most states use gov rotation
Personally I don't play CC at all
and yes i remember Lans and specifically the lie he told me that the gap between spenders and f2p was not growing
Lans has been gone though since 2022?2023 though? At the end of the day they were representing the devs and they were just humans. The gap between f2p & p2w was huge always and it kept getting worse it's true. But that meet up was the best thing that we had. Lots of questions used to get answered even if the answers were not what we were hoping to read 
When we gonna be able use frag resonance on terminator collab hero , because is should be able from now.😒 my f2p account with 300 frag waiting
I caaaan relate
I hope that one day we will be able to do that!
Have you tried submitting a feedback about this? 
yeah it stopped when the management started getting too greedy
I will work on something 
Collab Terminator is already 4 month ago we should already be able to use frag resonance on the t800 damaged , Sarah Connor and t800 exosquelette
Same for t800 we should be able to put operative frag on him 
Devs lazy
Observation
Fragment Resonance is not available for the Terminator collaboration hero, even though it should be enabled.
Consequences
F2P players cannot use saved fragments (300+ in player's case), slowing progression and causing frustration.
Suggested Solution
Enable Fragment Resonance for the Terminator hero or provide a clear timeline if delayed.
State number
All
Is this ok?
Yes
Silly question, but anyone noticed sacred oath underperforming lately?
It feels stealth nerfed
Lans was never seen again after he said that there is no gap between p2w and f2p 
Heard the same about marking trap
My state was telling me the same thing
Paul booli
Nou
Probably devs' way to push new s3 skills
That kinda customer treatment I bet have chased away thousands of players and millions of revenue
Weird they not learning
They did same to mark of strength etc a few gens ago. Difference is those are common ascensions not behind a paywall
they dont learn because things are not fully tested and the studio are more interested in playing other companies games, also non of the studio actually play the game, so dont understand the issues
didnt move the score needle one bit... in SOTF !! and these are bought items... pls fix it soon

Probally depends on oppenent
People said same on trap and insight
Wasnt really true..numbers still similair but on some oppenent you might think so
Yea was today i saw it first in arena
Otherwise this guy is gonna have a bad day tomorrow
Im impressed, i thought my piece was good but that there is art
work of a phat bank account too hehe
Dont need that, I am not f2p but hsvent spendt a penny on tempest
Just need to know what you doing, have a few alts and do some trading 🙂
But that oath was so good I dont wanna show mine. It brings shame
not traded a single thing in auction since it came out... need to buy auction money :p
Or sell stuff
Youd be a pretty bad stock trader if you had to keep landing money to trade 😂
You just need some good sales to keep the coins growing
It was never released
I have info that is was in game for a short time but is not available any longer. But certainly would love to see people be able to get it, if they want it. I most definitely could never afford any of the skins there, I use my badges for other things and cannot save for the life of me. 😆
This is so so good, this guy has Health Fetish
I also like Healthy infantries, but even more Leth works
Hae Leth in stats and Health in skill
There is no skill with Leth
And that is why Leth is so so important
You have dmg but thats derivative
with Abyssal Skirmish having 2 totally different timers one saying 3d 17h and one saying 10d 18:35 how is anyone supposed to know when this event will be actually ran. If the Devs want this junk to be supported in any way, actual battle days need to be posted. I know that will be against there current communication policy and that they think everyone is in lockdown still, But if they want events to have any support at least let us know the combat day.
As for the update yesterday, a little late considering Abyssal Skirmish and the New Year money grab was added on Monday, so how about the devs actually tell us what they did in the last update
i would ask the CM this question but as we havent got one any more its pointless maybe a Mod could use there special dc to get an answer
Become one and ask yourself 
as if the Devs would have me, i live on the wrong continent
I meant become a mod 🤣
Judt one step away 

as if they would have me, Tallie thinks i would make a good one, but i dont
You'd be surprised

and after the treatment when streaming i am very unsure about becoming a mod anyway
Everything has pro's and cons ... but you keep saying you would be a bad mod, sign up, try it, surpise yourself and if it's not for you, you can at least tell yourself you tried
You literally have nothing to lose and only to gain
Ignoring that new gfx sucks badly. I have found the best avatar frame. Its this one
For the specific reason that the hat hides the red dot
I have that one as well 🤣
Maybe time for a new try for this to be removed, about 4 years ago last research was done so why should I go to the lab?
While they're at it they can remove the "your alliance isn't registered" one too.
You are right. I sat for two minutes looking for it.😅
Depending against which color you fight so. If u face blue since disarm and silence ofc healing tempest will do less even if Oath is every 2 turn 
The only thing being Nerfed recently was the Thunderous after everyone buying themselves and waste token just before s3 😌
When something work everyone do copy 😂 but funny thing was 963 did bough 2 thunderous s3 for 90k piece no ? Then 1-2 day being nerfed 😂
Now people going Landmine for their blue since some decide to sold their assasination/trap for buying only thunderous 😂
Good thing for making token btw at least lately skill gen 1 tempest can be sold 😂 we might even seem against pearless again for remove the silence of Stella 
Abyssal or tidal escape?
Because the two are different
Tidal ends in two days
Abyssal next Saturday ( after SvS)
ENDS tomorrow ? We have 3 days for registration left
Tidal escape
That's the solo thing
In two days
Again tidal and Abyssal is different
hats tje bit that is confusing especially after how the test states seemed to work
i'm showing the alliance thing
in test states it was friday no ?
Saturday
Friday in PTR
I think Tidal my start again but I don’t know it ended in PTR with alliance part
well saturday is SVS for us so some full info from the Devs would help
Agreed
which is what i have been asking for for the last week and a half
It won't be this Saturday as registration will only end at Saturday-Sunday reset
but the question is is that just for registration or the whole thing, nothing is clear
The 3 days timer is for registration
knowing the game, nothing is clear though
It is right above the timer just as before that it was preview with a different timer
There 3 days matchmaking after registration
Then you know your tier and faction
Then Saturday ( not this Saturday) is the fight
it still would have been nice for the Devs to have told us that, but of course they have the communication skills of a grain of sand
basicly .. anything that gets you to the cash shop quicker .. oh they never learn !! quick to get new bundles out for events .. but cleaning up older stores .. forget it .. for example.. had the same boring POW store since event came out .. and POW is long and tedious to do before you score some coins
but you need them formation chests
An exciting update from the sos gives me this screen 😂😂😂
Yes, in test states it was on Friday. It was assumed it would be Saturday because of announcements and event countdown, but Friday reset it showed the match countdown timer to the event that day.
hence the confusion as to actual times
i remembered it was a friday because it was the same time as bunkers
Agreed, it was frustrating to plan for Saturday and the event actually be Friday with no notice. We didn’t have as much participation as we could have and everyone was in the same situation so, it wasn’t unfair in that sense I guess
To add, from what we’ve seen and from my R4 who is incredible at working things out, the registration is open until Saturday/Sunday reset.
Meaning the match will be the following day or week. Potentially running on a similar timetable to Nexus as it’s a seasonal event.
So it could be Tuesday/Thursday - Thursday/Saturday
All we have worked out for certain is that we’re good to leave for mega for SVS. We’ve advised our players to only leave on Saturday and return on Saturday too to make sure they’re counted.
No early darts and no sleepovers.
This isn’t official info it’s just what we’ve sort of gleaned from what we’ve read and the timers etc.
it would be nice though if in the interests of clarity we were told officially things like battle day, when/if the store will refresh
Absolutely with you on that. We’ve been trying to find out but it doesn’t seem clear yet.
At least we know it won’t be the same day as SVS. Which is a plus
yeah thats a plus
looks like it will run in the same pattern as the test states but they will have had one more battle than the rest of the live servers. something else that needs clarification
Well test states will naturally have had one more battle than the rest of the live servers. It won’t give them an advantage as they’re in a specific bracket.
They also got MIGO a week early and state transfer a week early. If anything I feel they should have been told before it was just happening with a little more warning. Other than that it seems to be running ok.
How are you anyway Shadow? Ready for the new year?
cold as its -2 here, waiting for a friend to get home before i will have a drink
Yeah it’s pretty cold here too. Not quite -2 but it feels like it.
Are you staying in and celebrating at home?
yeah, cant afford to go out and at 55 its not the same going out on my own
I feel you there. I’m a little younger but not too much.
It’s far too busy on NYE, far easier to grab some drinks in and stay home.
And you don’t have to pay for a taxi 
i never have to pay for a taxi, as i live in staggering distance of about 6 pubs lol
one is about 40 feet away lol
Hahaha lucky you. The nearest pub to me is like 3 miles away. I’d end up in a ditch
lmao
Anyone know what they changed in SvS for why they paused it for a while?

probably paused it for merge/transfer but dont hold me to that, as for whats changed god only knows, thats if anything has
The only thing I noted in the rules (don’t quote me) is that if the state which loses the prep stage also loses the capital fight, the opposing state can appoint the governor for that state.
lemme check though
so prep stage now only determines where the CC takes place
Waitso this skirmish event it says 50 players max only right. Does that mean 50 on one side and 50 on the other or 50 overall.
cant see a mention of the KE part of SVS either
Wtf thought og this. Imagine if one side has tap bots spamming to get inside and then all you have is 50 from other sideand 0 from the oppsing side
its 50 per side as far as i know
Ah ok but still would have been better to have limits per alliance
Such as 60 people per side and 20 per alliance
yeah so 150 per alliance
Because same method no one wants to leave when they see only points
They rather lose the skirmish and get points rather than leaving mid way or whatever and get no points this event is stupid
each of the 6 alliances has 50 making 150 per faction
Would have been better if it was 1 alliance vs another alliance and then have 3 ships and then each alliance has to split up to the 3 ships
It’s definitely different. What it doesn’t mention is if players are locked in on a roster
Isos says players can leave any time and they wont lose merit
So you may be able to dip in and out. Realistically not many alliances have 50 players all online at once so it might be a good thing?
Depends
so many unanswered questions though
Higher tier means stronger alliance which means all actice and ready to tap in and go
I rather have nexus
This event looks like some dev went to the bar and was playing battleship and said oh this is a good idea
i would have rather had some time off but it is what it is
Chiefty that did make me giggle.
Let’s try it out and see how it goes. That’s all we can do really
they could have dont something like the tiger migo which was just basic stuff as a break
Its a matter of participation
I wanna know what it means by 50 players on a map meaning
Oh this is gonna be some 💩 show
yeah but a small but mighty alliance will have little chance
As I say. We don’t know. We can try and find out but I think the best bet is to ride it out and see what happens.
That’s what my alliance is planning to do anyway.
we can always use feedback after I guess
Yeah
Although I do have it on good authority that 50 players on the map is like koth w/ reservists... the active can leave the map and another can step in. The difference is they don't lose merit
at least its not a stamina eater, and no dead
Hopefully 50 alliances one person per alliance so its battle royal dingy edition 2.0
but still way to many questions for the main season event but that comes down to communication
Agreed
Im broke in stam
Those back to back nexus were killer. Especially when devs lied and said they will do one nexus and then the other ad and the repeat it that way
Nexus wouldn't be bad if they fixed a lot of issues with it
Number 1 issue. Remove the stam
Have same system in place but remove stam, if you cant do that the make it 1 beseige equals 1 stam
Remove the whole taking rss while burning someone
Fix some of the nexus skills
I liked mining mayhem despite its bugs. I wish they would bring this back. 😅
my thing to change from Nexus is the need to have troops building the roads, they could still cost but are done automatically
My change is to make it an alliance based speed run to the center that can be performed multiple times per week so anyone in the alliance can join and have a go followed by a CC type nexus on the saturday where every alliance that reached the center during the week has a shot
My biggest complaint was the amount of stamina it took. I agree with Chiefty about that.
But that would be inclusive and we can't be inclusive
Yes pls
Also a skill to revive 100 percent troop then 80 and then 80 again .
Just like MM had
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Make besiege cost no stamina, no need for it to cost any, or. As you say just 1 stamina.
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Have actual working matchmaking.
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Fix how fiends and dreads spawn. (I'd still prefer only fiends existed with dreadbeast rewards added to its reward pool.
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I don't personally care for burning especially with it not giving points anymore (Which from my experience most whales seem to hate and find it boring cause of it). But, if you want to remove the resource aspect then sure, but I don't see a big deal with it.
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Make nexus shorter.
30 percent for 3days is 💩
What skills would you say need changing? Cause I do agree the heal skill is borderline useless.
If it was 30% per day then it be much better.
Yes but i enjoy the mm route
Another thing, fix the ui refresh bug
100 percent and then 80 percent second and third time. Makes people to remember to use it before nexus was over
That drives me mad since mm days and present in nexus
I'd accept, use the skill wisely.
The current 30% (60%?) and it has a 3 day cooldown is basically useless
3 day is useless yes, like how some other skills have like a 14 or 7 day cooldown when trying to use between svs and cc
Those hero damage and reduction buffs
The one from the surfer and snowman those have at lvl 1 a 7 day cooldown which is expected but still devs have lost all marbles
Those are annoying, wish they we're permanent buffs especially once higher levels when the cooldown period is shorter than the active period
Happy 2026 from the UK
Anyone ever had traps not registering?
I dont think its quite fair that i might have to coin trap event when i already have done it?
That and troop drill reset for some reason
Hadnt done trap before thst and didnt claim meanwhile
same... had trap yesterday
Did trap when eating dinner. Hopefully next one registers
Bad luck i guess 🙂 ill just mske sure to make it on friday so no worries and thanks for info 🙂
here's an idea sos ... sell us medic bots that last 5 hrs... and then we need to buy it again next CC \ SVS
🤣
missed chance at $$$ right there
Naa but 5k too little off the stuff makes last tier harder to hit
For getting early glory and maxing out the 8k thing
Get it on friday its all good
But why stress healing on svs
I just let it go to enlist
Empty again before next svs
- Make relocating free .... just remove the adv relocators from the game .. and have it so no RSS and intel can spawn in your place ... I'd rather pay a monthly fee of some kind for a holding.plate .. on my spot
Read the rules
For the pearl section it says use pearls when store is available
Doesn't mean it will always be there but when it is go ahead and use to get points
I don't really think pearls should be an option for point earning events.
Course users also ruined pearls. It was such a nice shop. But all the feedback was "more pearls" so they did, and ruined the shop. And now both are pretty terrible
Yes and Troop Drill say 0% today
always with the 2 steps forward ... 1 step back !!
seems at times like they don't want f2p .. daddys in this game
care more for some rich Dubai kid ... using up his dads salary for the day .. on 100 dice crates





