📋︱feedback-discussion

[earnest flare]

just sick and tired ... of having to go on a chart .. outside of the game to find stuff out .. why not have in .. in the game.. to begin with .. but its only a suggestion ... not all are as crafty as finding a chart for every thing... I still hate to this day that it doesnt say how many airplane parts im away from MAX .. but thats another thing lol

had to find out .. outside of the game that most planes ends at lvl 140 .. all I have is a wheel that says 80% done ... atleast :p

maybe have a text on the wheel page saying 140 is max lvl .. so people know when the pain ends hehe

[stable anvil]

If game included charts of how many materials are needed to max certain things than for sure the game will have bigger file size and will be even more laggy than already is. Game is state of survival not state of game files

Just saying feedback like that is not necessary

[earnest flare]

I'm sure we paid them more than enough by now... to remake this game 3 times over !! where we progressed into game 2 when reach a certain milestone in the game... where game 2 only had events that progressed us at that point in time :p

[stable anvil]

Ofcourse paying them to remake the game verses do they wish to make it. Also remember this is a game file for phones and pc. Last i checked it was 12 gb plus

[jolly harness]

And I am sick and tired off long texts which make 0 sense

But it seems we both aren't getting what we want

You're here half a day complaining about God knows what

Go look up up a chart

[earnest flare]

do ... not.... want.... charts .... short enough for you

🤣

[jolly harness]

Sure Mr entitled

[earnest flare]

pretty sure i could make them a better UI .. if asked :p

[jolly harness]

They won't ask. They don't care.

Everyone thinks they can do better

Yet ya'll still playing SOS while you could " make a better game "

No ?

[placid hornet]

SoS still doesn't stop to surprise me about nerfing

The deco income in Fair....

[lime zealot]

I made much better offline game already, and wrote much better script. find my site and see.
checkmate

[jolly harness]

and still you are here playing SOS

[lime zealot]

to know how to NOT make game

[jolly harness]

sure

[lime zealot]

great manual

ofc

[jolly harness]

join the delulu club

[lime zealot]

i stopped investing 3 years ago, and minimised my playing time 😂

thou art leader there?
nty

[stable anvil]

This is funny right here

1500 gold vouchers for the march skin that devs removed from collab store,sent into bounty blast for 2200 gold coins which required more than thousands of bullets

I post here in case devs want to remove or up the price because and have false marketing and scamming us

[wet tusk]

It is free now

[stable anvil]

Basically

But first devs needed to milk players before throwing a curve ball

[jolly harness]

Not in 1 but 2 unrelated collab events

Surely huge breach of collaboration contract

[stable anvil]

My exact thoughts

silent hill should be breaking their house doors now and steal all their yacht and stuff.

[cloud ridge]

I get what you mean, but its common for games not to always tell you and either you learn or Google it.

If it helps find the info outside game and make a note of it in game via bookmarks. What I do for upgrades.

Or just add a channel in alliance dc with all details on.

[stable cosmos]

Its just their bad UI. Standard practice for them. If you want any shot of them changing it frame it in a way that makes them money.

While upgrading i can't see what i need to buy to get stronger faster.

[swift sleet]

Most games' tooltips on what things do in game are more accurate though. In sos it's just thrown together like the devs are performing rocket surgery. I doubt they even know wtf things do

If people knew what stats and items actually do, the gap would be closer between spenders and non spenders, because people will min max what they can. That will never be allowed to happen, can't have people actually competing in a game with knowledge and tactics instead of money

[earnest flare]

atleast the new winter statues look good .. over a good looking UI hehehe .. the statues that make them money

aka more attack power

just another set... I wont max out.. just have the new one ... so i get some more points in Holidays fair they just launched

guess I'll do team evil .. next year ... used most of dice coins just to get " team good "

[radiant mica]

So you picked the "nice" team! It has been kind of fun seeing which "teams" folks pick. Naughty or nice.

[swift sleet]

Shame santa accepted bribes from the rich and gives them both naughty and nice.

[unique mica]

This is interesting. We should make a list of Aholes and States they reside in. So we can track and avoid them at transfers. #📋︱feedback-reporting message

A database of stink. 😂

[stable anvil]

Nope

Need to be specific

If you are not specific on which events and such then dont bother posting a feedback on it.

Which events ahould be reduced

Which events should be removed and what does this person consider unpopular

[stable anvil]

Watch they remove all f2p events because of being unclear and then ******* around because its gone

[wide wraith]

any news on the first day of actual fighting for the full live Abyssal Skirmish as in not the chosen few states

[unique mica]

Also any news on new svs format?

[swift sleet]

Yes, third round is called abyssal tides or something

I'm joking, new migo event may coincide with svs that's all. Don't go spreading this fake news

[opal copper]

Hey all. Unfortunately we don’t know yet how it will work. The DL’s have asked the question, we’re just waiting for a definitive answer.

We will absolutely let you know when we know any more

[wide wraith]

i will keep pushing every 24 hours or so, no excuse for the CMs not seeing it, after all they are supposed to be watching

[swift sleet]

Yay, we have a new migo event, glorified POW, for n number of players where n < 100, and the main event in this game SVS being put on hold because their plans have turned out to be pants.

Such winners

[magic nebula]

Hopefully hear something back soon. I know I'm missing SvS already. Well more the kill stage

[wide wraith]

well as it stands, there will be no more mega alliances, unless those joining dont want to be in the Migo junk

[magic nebula]

That's an oof, considering SvS is the main thing that most enjoy now id say, hopefully the days can be picked better but with the 1000 events hopefully can be possible

[wide wraith]

it said fights were on a Saturday

probably with 2 out of 3 times

[magic nebula]

If it would have to be really spread with in the gaps of SvS/CC to make it "useful" as apart from the gap in between weekends are pretty much busy for events etc but then you'd probably not get much and may not be worth it.... I think its the annoying thing is the limit info with a sudden new thing as we just go into it blind most of the time

[wide wraith]

just scrap the migo pow thing

[magic nebula]

I'd probably agree with that, i think sometimes its like stop nexus then what comes next makes nexus look like the best event ever, for the solo event im not a fan, just because ive played enough pow and survivor royale to be bored enough of it and then just combine it into one... ideally not for me

[wide wraith]

the Devs picked the 2 most unliked events and forced them on everyone, would like to see their thinking as to why

[magic nebula]

Survivor Royale was once better with the 20 slots which new states get temp now due to the limited matching but i'd love royale better with that, then pow is pow im either regreating everything playing or have a good win streak but both together is uh yea...

[wooden yoke]

Even in new states with 20 player Survivor Royale, the majority of matches are with bots

[magic nebula]

i think thats why i like it so much

Easy wins and more F2P friendly, but i know it wouldnt be like that in the main range but there would be more of a chance to have better matching with a lower range id say

[wooden yoke]

I enjoy my free TA from getting first from it 😂

[magic nebula]

Me too 😂 Its basically free s2s which is nice.

For the MIGO event though, id had liked something like duels and nexus together the rewards from nexus and then the time from duels but more spread out the rewards across the weeks, as nexus was time consuming in a annoying way

[tame harbor]

What developers do today, overwhelming players with a bunch of meaningless events, is called game spam.

[magic nebula]

I opened my events billboard today was lots going on in there...

[tame harbor]

People have already calculated that there are more than 30 events in the game today.

[unique mica]

They’re lean experiments. 😂

Except they take no learning from them.

[tame harbor]

Game spam is a bunch of unnecessary and small games inside one big game, these small games are mostly tasteless and flat

[wide wraith]

its the non theme games that i hate, like the fair etc

[magic nebula]

PTR just really needs to be used for all new events even if small, then see what needs fixing/changing from feedbacks/bugs, like the days for this new migo events and everything else, i think its where things just go wrong as its just thrown in straight away as a test for some states or all at once

[wide wraith]

if they want us to test in the live servers, they should at least be around to recieve feedback

[tame harbor]

They're abandoning the PTR because people are testing for free, the developers didn't give any rewards for participating in testing, why should people waste their time testing for free when the developers themselves

For all the money

And they are right not to go to the PTR

The game is already overloaded with events, game spam, over 30, and for "thanks" they have to sit on the PTR, in real life they pay money for testing

[wide wraith]

ptr should have a 3 month lead as a minimum

[magic nebula]

I do understand that point too, if communication was better like shadow said above, ptr would feel more worth and i think its where it gets frustrating to want to even try, it just becomes checking ptr when things are added to see how bad it is rather than testing now for changes/bugs

[magic nebula]

That would be good, be a migo in advanced kind of thing for all new testing

[unique mica]

I’m not sure why they discontinued nexus after they finally almost got it right.

Tidal escape is just plain stupid. I’m not sure what abysmal skirmish will be like, i understand why they must create new events. Spenders will have to go overboard to max out their hovercraft and that means a good thing for the bottom line. Looks like Brad Bakshi is running things (if you know you know)

[wide wraith]

maybe the game is ran by a Ferengi but if it is they have forgotten the 248 rule of acquisition which says "The definition of insanity is trying the same failed scheme & expecting different results"

[unique mica]

such a coincidence - i have Star Trek (2008) playing in the background.

[wide wraith]

lol

[fallow lodge]

finally got it right? damn thats funny😬 no points for hitting, people reduced to hitting camps for points...everytime the next season of that thing showed up it took a step backwards. they were miles of getting it right

[unique mica]

They tuned it to getting right, the strategy over the weeks, forging alliances across teams, getting to know people, bonding. Those things keep people in the game.

[stable cosmos]

A good game would also keep people in the game

[fallow lodge]

nexus nearly made me quit

boredom fest

[unique mica]

No one is here for the game. It sucks. People are here for the connections that formed. The connections they treasure. That is the key to keeping them here.

Then Bolton you need to join the ahole list.

😂

Quit the game.

[fallow lodge]

i gladly take top spot of a hole list...you the farmer list😬

[unique mica]

I don’t see you in the top 100 bro. Fellow farmer.

Do not awake Patricia.

[fallow lodge]

ouch no way im on the farmer list

😅

[unique mica]

Yeah you are. Loser. Where are you in the top player list?

[fallow lodge]

whats a top player?

[magic nebula]

With everything in game i think its hard not to look like a farmer sometimes

[fallow lodge]

agreed

[magic nebula]

At least i do anyway

[unique mica]

Even a top spender is a farmer.

They’re just mindlessly playing all 47 events to top them all.

[fallow lodge]

sadly thats getting true more everyday

[unique mica]

That is dumb farmer af.

[magic nebula]

Its unfortunate but can be true, one spender isnt enough anymore if other team has good joiners its over pretty much

[stable anvil]

The one thing no one told you to touch and you do it anyways

[jolly harness]

They always touch the things people don't ask them to touch. Give us the events no one asked for. Make " improvements " no one asked to improve

[stable anvil]

Makes it more difficult to max out the wheel thing and grab all goodies

Might as well if they wanna remove 5x multiplier to remove the 8 or so 100 coins in there too

Sucks to spend 8 wonder crates for 100 coins unless they are the last thing to grab

[jolly harness]

Those are my first grabs every single time. Not even a frame I got this time around

[stable anvil]

Yup yup

2 accnts

About 4 to 5 spins in i got 2 frames, a 200 coin, panda frag and the sentinel on my smaller accnt

Main accnt i did 7 to 8 and mostly i got the coins and maybe 1 frame

[swift sleet]

Not me, I'm here to click the red dots they keep introducing more of, that's designed to keep us psychologically engaged due to FOMO.

[stable cosmos]

Train yourself out of that. I fail to tap on so many now i miss out on stuff, its great.

[jolly harness]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

" let me save everything to the last second even though I know what I want and lose everything "

[cursive vessel]

Every store has a timer on it. People are stupid

[swift sleet]

They could just roll over the items to the next event instead of converting them, considering you've won or purchased those items. But where's the money to be made from that? 🤑

Collectively across all players the amount of event items that's destroyed must be huge. Wonder what it would equate to in money terms. Greedy twits

[wooden yoke]

Devs are to blame for people's poor time management skills too I guess

[swift sleet]

If I miss an event that's my poor time management skills. If my items get destroyed because I have some left that can't buy anything that's their greed in not letting you keep those items. I may have spent money to purchase them.

Real monetary value attached to them. What can you buy with 150 tickets? Very little. They'd happily destroy them for you when the event ends.

And it's not a bunch of bots that play sos. It's real human beings who have lives. People miss deadlines. So ye, I'm fully on board with why people get frustrated and angry the items they have earned through the game or may have paid for get destroyed!

[jolly harness]

Use the purchased stuff instead saving it all until the last possible minute

There is no benefit to saving stuff you already know what you are gonna use it for

Devs are crap we all know that

But they aren't to blame for your own mistakes 🤷

It's not like these events are the first time in live server.

[swift sleet]

Reasonable

That's what they're proposing. Up to you scamplus. I won't hold my breath.

In fact they did the reverse with Bounty Blast. Coins used to be carried over before Scamplus realised and shut it down. Greedy twits.

[stable cosmos]

Some of the store items are incredibly expensive. Whats the harm exactly in someone saving for 3-4 events to buy a single big item that will provide them little actual benefit? If someone wants to buy a hideously expensive set of wings f2p by ignoring all the other items for 6 events running, let them

[cloud ridge]

As a stupid person, I support this message

[cursive vessel]

Stupid too, you wouldn't believe how many times I forget to buy stuff 🤣

[cloud ridge]

I always save all my stuff till end

Simply cause for like slots I have more chance to get better jackpot rewards (in theory)

As opposed to using all once obtained immediately meaning I may end up with less as opposed to saving for right time

I'm guilty of always forgetting something and wont change my ways as its how I am and play

[jolly harness]

But why keep currency?

Like for instance people who lost chips with OF event

What is the benefit of saving it all until the end only to forget it all together due to something in real life ?

[cloud ridge]

It depends on the event

So, let's say OP festival, I save the chips simply so I can put it on auto and not have to click 1000 times to use them all

Could do them as they come sure, but I like lazy way for me

[jolly harness]

Still why wait until the last hour of the event ?

How long do ya'll play this game

If the answer is longer as 1 month. Then you can only blame yourself when you lose out

[cloud ridge]

Slots, more tokens means more chance at jackpot and I prefer to use them when there's a decent pool, I still wouldn't spend everything till last day as can still get more coins and I'd rather wait and get something more expensive than waste on cheaper stuff then find out i could have actually gotten it

Only time I wait last minute or hour is if its gems realted, if not I'll just do at some point on last day, probably in afternoon after work.

Kinda what I did for fishy yesterday, got as much lures as possible then used buff and caught 0 gold fish

[cursive vessel]

I do most stuff last day but never last minute cause I aint even awake at reset 😂

[cloud ridge]

Then spend all currency after

It works for me, I do still forget here and there but that's mainly only slots I tend to forget

[jolly harness]

I understand the saving until last day. But everyone is online at least 30 minutes. So theres time to spend the thjngs

[cloud ridge]

Everything else not a problem, and advantage for me is I'm UK based so UTC works out well.

[cloud ridge]

There is, but also there's lots of events and can get lost or side tracked

[jolly harness]

People gonna complain about collab shop and losing out as well

[cloud ridge]

Why I often login, go to do one thing then realise I've forgotten x event or whatever then forget what I was doing initially

It's my own fault, not games fault

[cursive vessel]

If people miss out it is their own doing
It isnt the games fault people cant understand a timer 😂

[cloud ridge]

So if it happens only myself to blame

[swift sleet]

Sounds like the alarm call in prison.

[cursive vessel]

[swift sleet]

Why is it so hard to just be flexible or teansfer items to next event?

[cursive vessel]

Why is so hard for people to use the stuff before it recycles?

[swift sleet]

Just because this is the way it is doesn't mean it's right

[cloud ridge]

Frankly we should be lucky the items that do stay around they haven't touched

[cursive vessel]

Its recycled forever 🤣

[swift sleet]

Ye sure. You can have a million tickets in 10 years if tou don't buy anything

[cloud ridge]

It would be nice yes to have them saved up, but that benefits whales more and reduces their spending

[swift sleet]

Whales will buy out the store long before then. Arguably you're punishing f2p who need to save up to buy anything meaningful

Yes, if you miss the store it's your own fault. But by design it's the greediest way, by deleting tokens of players.

[cloud ridge]

Yes and no, if you take Freddy in dices, he's got enough coins for borderline whole shop, most of shop items he'll have and not need

If he could save the excess coins he wouldn't need, other than rankings he wouldn't need to spend as much

[swift sleet]

Back to relativity again. If he's f2p then how much has he skipped to be able to afford that?

[cloud ridge]

Your forced to either let the excess coins waste or spend on stuff you dont need

[swift sleet]

Yes, exactly. And who does that benefit? Not the whale or f2p. Scamplus

[cloud ridge]

If it was a f2p aspect, on my old account I had about 6k pinballs saved from gems and daily stuff, never touched it caused wanted to go for ranking at some point, same with bounty blast.

Which is a reason why they stopped those gems being as common.

There's nothing a f2p or someone who saved over mutiple events could get to make them op suddenly

[swift sleet]

Not sure what the argument here is. So you skipped using pinballs for several events for one big push. So you missed out on all those skipped events.

[cloud ridge]

I'm just saying as an example as I've done same.

[swift sleet]

This I agree with. It's just designed to be as greedy as ppssible

[cloud ridge]

Whales it forces them to use everything and buy all again each time

F2p makes no difference as they get so few they will take whatever crumbs they can get

If they allowed all items to never recycle whales would just have more and more saved up to buy out new stuff they need easier

[swift sleet]

Yep, more 💸 for scamplus

[cloud ridge]

It is,especially for fix this mess

[swift sleet]

Why is this a bad thing? They get to use the items they earned or paid for? Instead of having them deleted.

[jolly harness]

Why is so hard to manage your own schedule and not lose out ?

[swift sleet]

Why do scamplus delete your items you've earned or paid for?

[halcyon berry]

i have 8 accs and never fail to use my stuff

[swift sleet]

Good for you. Most people have a life

[halcyon berry]

when i go through my dailes at last event day i use the stuff

[halcyon berry]

most people cry and wait for last min to use their stuff

and then forget or time runs out

[swift sleet]

How does that negatively affect you? Are you just glad they're losing out due to their own circumstances?

[halcyon berry]

and people complain again that either the shops suck , or harder to get stuff

its a circle of sos dc here

[swift sleet]

That's opinion at best. Where's your proof?

[halcyon berry]

my proof look at fishing event

[swift sleet]

No, that's not proof of shops getting worse because tokens are transfered to next fishing event. That's more greed again from scamplus.

How does transferring tokens to next event negatively affect you?

[halcyon berry]

other example . bullet event you can transfer bullets over from event to event . last time the shop was good when you could buy ascends and tempest stuff for a good price

[swift sleet]

Yes, and then they removed the ability to keep bullets and now it's worse. So it's the opposite of what you're saying.

[halcyon berry]

pinball you can get them over and over and at end until you can get something really good you need collect thousand of them

[halcyon berry]

you still keep them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[magic nebula]

I think for some it could result in harder rankings on some events but then again F2P could manage more for buying things, but i think money wise its why this doesnt happen on things like dice.

[swift sleet]

So again, what changed then? Other than the shop getting worse?

[halcyon berry]

🤦‍♂️

you need more and more safed things to get anything good

[swift sleet]

There is literally no change, just the shop got worse. How is that any fault of anyone but scamplus being greedy????

[halcyon berry]

dice event get more and more expensive

[magic nebula]

I feel like this would be the compromise they would do though, allow saved items but the needed would increase

Oh yep

[somber root]

i think collecting items over time would be good. but i do agree that when they allow us to do that, the items don't get better in store, only more expensive 😂

[swift sleet]

Again, where's the change other than scamplus increasing prices by being greedy?????

[halcyon berry]

because people write feedbacks when there is something good but didnt benefit their playstyle

[swift sleet]

But what changed? Feedback was ignored, nothing changed and things got more expensive

So relatively speaking no change. Other than the shop prices being increased to reflect the ability to save. More greed from Scamplus which they didn't need to do. So how is that players fault and not scamplus' fault?

[swift sleet]

Why does it need to? So scamplus are able to milk players for the same amount or more? Surely this is just greed

[halcyon berry]

bro i told you several things if you stubborn not my problem .

[swift sleet]

"Okay, we'll let you keep the tokens you've earned or paid for already, but we're increasing prices". WTF?

[halcyon berry]

you call them scamplus but still play 🤷‍♂️

quit if you dont like it

[swift sleet]

Ye don't gaf. It's not the fault of the players. If you want to blame someone then blame scamplus

[somber root]

i do agree that the prices are increasing lately, but unfortunately that is the way of the game. but if you would like to put in a suggestion Fixit, i can help you with that

[swift sleet]

And besides, if it means I can save up for items that make a difference, albeit if they're slightly more expensive then it's still a win. Although preferably they won't be more expensive due to greed.

[swift sleet]

Don't bother, there are probably already at least 500 feedbacks if you do a search about prices

All ignored

[somber root]

I understand your frustrations. I have been struggling myself with how much everything is increasing these days. but all we can do is try to suggest and hope that it makes a difference

I see a suggestion for the change of system in regards to carrying forward instead of recycling fishing store coins. hopefully they take that into consideration and see how best to improve gameplay for everyone

[swift sleet]

I really get peed about players' ability to blame other players for their suggestions on making things less expensive or better, only for scamplus to do the complete opposite and make things worse. How is that anyone but scamplus' fault?

[somber root]

i understand. Everyone has their opinions on how they think it would work best. its natural to disagree. hopefully some changes will be made and maybe 2026 would be better for all of us players

[swift sleet]

Yes everyone will have different opinions. But blaming other players for scmaplus' changes to make things worse or more expensive, which was completely different to what was suggested is not an opinion. It's scapegoating the wrong people

[somber root]

i think we are all humans at the end of the day. and we can't read how others have written what they wrote. but perhaps we can choose to agree to disagree here
I can completely relate to you. it is tiring to keep remembering what events end on what date, especially at a busy time like now.
sometimes we lose out on the rewards and that's okay. we just have to try again next time or put in our suggestions and hope they consider changing it for us 🤗

[swift sleet]

I agree with you. But not on players blaming other players for changes that this greedy company makes.

Oh well, here's to 2026

[somber root]

cheers to 2026. i hope there will be less events, so i can spend less time in game

[halcyon berry]

soo my last sentence here . the only events where the stuff you used was safed are bullets for bounty blast , pinballs for pinball event and 1 year or 1.5 years ago dices for dice event .
currencys like coins , shells etc was ALWAYS deleted at end of event for 6 years they didnt change anything there

[swift sleet]

Here's to our shared ptsd 🔴

[somber root]

yes, they always were. i personally would like them to extend the fishing store for another day. so that i can spend my coins after coffee the next day and not be half awake while using it and buying nonsense coz i wasn't thinking 😆

[swift sleet]

Well no changes then, so what are you moaning about? Other than items getting more expensive. Who's fault is that?

[jolly harness]

Inflation

[swift sleet]

We moan when they don't listen, and we also moan when they listen and do the opposite

[halcyon berry]

too many pearls at dice shop , now less . fishibg to many bios now nothing . and its not my fault when people cant manage to use stuff within 5 days of a running event 🤣🤣

i bet people will cry about lost stuff from silent hill shop 🤣🤣

[swift sleet]

Just play your 8 accounts religiously and let real humans have their feelings.

[halcyon berry]

ohh they listen , they always do the opposite of feedbacks thats why i always said never touch a good event with stupid feedbacks it only get worst 🤣🤣. but i still see you cry and still play

feelings from humans now are snowflakes 🤣

[swift sleet]

Wtf are you on about? So they looked at feedback and did the opposite. That's the players fault how?

[halcyon berry]

maybe good idea change ingame name with fixthismess and still pay thousand each month maybe that help 🤣🤣

[swift sleet]

You seem to have been triggered into a nervous laughing emoji tic.

[swift sleet]

😏

[cloud ridge]

It comes down to perspective, but more importantly in this case the game developers.
.

There are plenty of games who will have limited items to use within an event which become useless or get deleted / recycled once event is over
.

There are times items carry over, there are times they dont.
.

If FP was more for the players they could do that sure, I'm still on the stance it would only benefit the whales more and increase the gap more.

But, it would also help f2p yes, in turn of doing this however stops a lot of forced spending.

Sometimes you aim to hit the milestone ranking needed then stop, only pushing if your a little away from an item or at risk of losing the rank
.

If you could simply save as a whale and not have to waste the items then you would spend less the following unless you want ranking or need the coins
.

FP wants money, if they could I imagine they would stop all items like bullets, pearls, pinball etc from not recycling
.

Frankly I'm surprised they haven't for bullets or pinball, but they have the events less often and extremely rare to get the gems for them anymore due to them being able to be saved up by all
.

They dont want us to do that, they probably haven't changed it due to whale backlash or some rubbish if I had to guess

[cursive vessel]

Oooh lots of words 😂

[cloud ridge]

Least I added paragraphs

I can make it better though

[cursive vessel]

🤣

[jolly harness]

Das spam mate

[wet tusk]

Dwight use your magic sticker

That one with I am happy for you or not

[jolly harness]

I have a new one

[cloud ridge]

Yet you still read it cause it was from me and you we're interested in my spam

[jolly harness]

i didn't read that long post no

[cloud ridge]

You dont have to lie to me

[swift sleet]

Just in case anyone missed it with all the talking

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[soft gulch]

Ho ho ho
Merry Christmas

Hope you get fireworks, with correct year 😄

[wide wraith]

still no news on the alliance event 😔 , they will use Christmas as an excuse i bet, even though its just a normal day to some

[jolly harness]

I can check for you tomorrow if it's showable in those test states if you'd like

[zealous plover]

Ho ho ho
No fireworks this year 🤭

[soft gulch]

Very well.......

[wide wraith]

i meant about the timings for the rest of us

[earnest flare]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Just do what you once did years ago .. when Mike and all other heros could be recycled ... right here

and let us convert them into warrior store coins

letting us make old heroes into shiny new gen25 pills

[hollow zinc]

The overcraft event allowing us to gather 3prints ends soon, will there be another way get them? Also the collection was pretty hard to complete, still 2 red and 1 yellow object to gather ... Will we have a 2nd go at this event? It was very short.

[viscid ore]

The new Migo ento is so awful that no one even plays it to get the 3D modules for the alliance😂😂😂

Merry Xmas

[naive vapor]

who wants to be forced to play a glorified survival royale when 95% of players just turn on the auto mode feature when that event is around

[austere spoke]

So.... 100 players in an alliance, only 30 can play the event that gives migo rewards ?

[crude stratus]

Let's wait for live test states tomorrow

[woven spire]

More chance it goes to 20 people then 50

😂

[pliant shore]

Let's pray

[crude stratus]

To only pray won't help I guess

[pliant shore]

Change name to mess fixed
Devs will appreciate it 🤣

[austere spoke]

Santa is gone already.... got to hope and believe on something else 😅

[earnest flare]

I just wish Migo was a solo event... no locked timezone .. so alliances like mine with ppl in the US\EU\Asia ... had time to play it

Sometimes the game picks a timeslot.. when people are sleeping making it hard to score migo points

or

theyre at work when the zone is open :p ... so kinda hard having a rally leader in USA .. while most of the joiners live in Europe

[wicked glacier]

As an update on timing in live test states for Abyssal Skirmish - our matchmaking was completed, our faction and opponents are displayed today along with a countdown to Match Start at 14 UTC. So it looks like it will be on Friday for test states, but we'll know more in 12.5 hours

[wet tusk]

30 people are random and not previously registered
So you can end up with all weak accounts and no RL

It is a drama waiting to happen

But we will know more from live testing

[wet tusk]

It should be today , right?

[wicked glacier]

yes, should be today 🙂

Friday is today in game, tomorrow for my time zone. So it's easier to use the day 😅

[unreal lichen]

Random? Not first come-first served?

[wet tusk]

That what random is

You can’t control who joins , means if your leads are late to join , you cooked

I meant no pre registration

[unreal lichen]

I mean you can. Every alliance that is organized can control who joins. Random means system decides who gets to play

Thank you 💙

[earnest flare]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

cant believe someone would downvote this.. unless they're already $$$ and dont want others to catch up hehe ... since they spent $$$ getting that strong and dont want others having the easy way..

[wet tusk]

You can’t just tell people not to join, it is unfair , and even with 100% organisation some will join no matter what

But yes , you can organise people in waves or replace dead marches

[somber root]

Hi there Mr Keto, do you mind if I DM you regarding the feedback report?

[stable anvil]

Depends on state age and ao forth but the answer is no

There is no need to improve that as it is doing what it supposed to be doing. If you cant manage plasma and poly then you need to rethink what to upgrade. Cant expect Devs to give you free upgrades when most players had to do it the hard way especially with less events that gave plasma and poly and discounts

[halcyon berry]

i see many f2p who are p18 .

easiest thing dont waste your poly and plasma at p10 research 🤣

[stable anvil]

Exactly

[halcyon berry]

what you waste there is literally 2 plasmalevels +/-

[stable anvil]

P10 research is stupid to begin with

[halcyon berry]

then every other building like the farms = waste .
behemoth building waste .
hangar big waste .

[stable anvil]

Wasting tons of poly and plasma for essentially 20 percent boost of atk and def

[stable anvil]

Well not behemoth building

Behemoth core is good for items that help FORMATION system

[halcyon berry]

well yes the collection for the behenoth core is pathetic

core isnt for formation system

[stable anvil]

So essentially people should focus on Hq, troop buildings and wall, hospital , behemoth building

[halcyon berry]

as f2p no behemoth building only eat lots of poly and plasma aswell

[stable anvil]

Many thing before behemoth building but yes Behemoth building should be after all the essential ones

[halcyon berry]

that you can do if you have p18

[stable anvil]

Yup yup

[halcyon berry]

but i would safe for p21 ngl

[stable anvil]

Dont start with p21

[halcyon berry]

i already can say next season a bigger update will come again

because then we have doomsday

[stable anvil]

2 months supposedly before DOOMSDAY

But will see.but yeah the conversion things needs to be left alone

[halcyon berry]

and at other hand you get plasma at slot , pearls almost every shop now

[stable anvil]

Because devs will say ah ok you want 100 free poly then how about increase the mileage amount so instead of 10 per it will be 50 per until you hit first mileage

[stable anvil]

Yup,

Just need to relax and focus on the right things to upgrade whoch is why i say it depends on state age as to why this person wants more poly

[halcyon berry]

at the end we can discuss but its a dumb feedback 🤷‍♂️

only 1 thing if they would change the exchange rate i can promise the next plasmalevels will have a new thing you need to upgrade which cost a kidney to convert poly or plasma think about such stuff before doing feedbacks

[stable anvil]

Converting plasma to poly and from poly to nano particles or something of the sort

[somber root]

oh no..let's not give them ideas please 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Hospital is a bad idea iirc. Bigger hospital = slower enlistment

If its gonna fill anyway, it may as well fill a little earlier and have ok enlistement to late and have terrible

[stable anvil]

Devs should first fix the ridiculous damage on hq hits. Rein the wall algorithm

[wide wraith]

oh god they brought back the split time SVS, the idea that failed big time before

[candid raptor]

[stable anvil]

Split time

[wide wraith]

which idiotic Dev thought this was a good thing to resurrect

[stable anvil]

Ok i had to go check myself

I dont mind sleeping for 2 extra hours 😅

But still i would rather it be sooner and over

[wide wraith]

but what it doesnt say is who its based on, is it the whole state, just the Gov, just the lead alliance, and also when will players be told the warefare time

[wet tusk]

This is so old , never implemented

[wide wraith]

its the current rules

[wet tusk]

This was in the description since they changed to current version

They never actually implemented it

[wide wraith]

well they need to tell us what changes they made

[stable anvil]

They will be 10 mins before svs starts from a flying monkey from Oz

[wet tusk]

Nothing in what we have now in live is new

Hopefully they don’t remove it 10 minutes before SVS

😂

[wide wraith]

they said that they took SVS off to optimise and to make changes, the simple question is WHAT CHANGES

[earnest flare]

Timeframe A : 1000 - 1400utc ..... Timeframe B : 1300 - 1700utc .... Timeframe C : 1600 - 2000utc

whats needed

or even more slots

[wide wraith]

nah its not, players with families etc, alliances with players in different timezones

[earnest flare]

better yet.. make it only 2hrs long .. not 4

[wide wraith]

it used to be 24 hours so hush

[earnest flare]

dont grow tired.. of porting.. and easier on the troops

[earnest flare]

thats beyond stupidity hehe

[wide wraith]

so yeah there are things you could lose like the dumb KE part

[stable anvil]

Yes better now and then the other version was 8 hours of Cc straight until someone held the capital for 4 hours

[stable anvil]

KE for svs or we talking about Ke the event during SOTF week

[wide wraith]

well both but for the purposes of this just SVS

most states now ignore the SOTF KE anyway

[stable anvil]

They can do the KE portion before svs start but after the designated 14utc it should be over dont want to wait an extra hour or so

[wide wraith]

thats the thing, as written will its still be 10 until 18 with the added KE or have they scrapped that part

[stable anvil]

Well time will tell what junk they messed up with svs

[wide wraith]

my point exactly

as for the timings with the new junk isnt 14 today a bunker time

[stable anvil]

Yes Bunkers at 3/9/14/19

[wide wraith]

also for a some people despite the holidays today is a work day, and going on it definitely will be, so another event that will be rigged to fix certain players/timezones

its funny how when the time was talked about a few hours ago, no one mentioned that

[wide wraith]

hope your not registered for the 14UTC bunker slot lol

[wicked glacier]

We are

[wide wraith]

opps cant be in 2 places at once

so tell me how can having the new junk on a friday be better

[wicked glacier]

I honestly don’t know how any of it will work out, but I’ll check back in after the match to give updates and answer any questions I can about the test state experience

[wide wraith]

The Devs are that dumb that cant answer the question that Tallie asked the CM about, that or the CM is that hat unprofessional that she didnt forward it

its been over a week since i asked for the exact battle timings, the Holiday season should make no difference using the Devs only words from previous years

[stable anvil]

Oh new event in test states?

[wide wraith]

yeah

[stable anvil]

Was about to say none in live states

Devs freakin stupid..reminded me again when they had Nexus or whatever that event during bunker time

[wide wraith]

i know but next week their will be, is it Friday as per Test states or Staturday as per their own post

[stable anvil]

Literally not hard to plan a day and time unless you dont play your game then yeah everything will be jacked up

[wide wraith]

well yeah it is hard if working and using breaks to join rallies etc

[unreal lichen]

Well fairness or unfairness is a different topic.
Is there any video for gameplay?

[wet tusk]

I don’t know if any CC released one yet but I expect few after today live testing

[stable anvil]

Yeah dont wanna be mean but with good intentions Devs could care less about f2p.

Always remember the monkey paw. Only reason you can upgrade swiftly is due to many events that provide plasma and poly, devs will take those away and increase store prices and then they will give you what you want. Problem is with no chance to get plasma due to your feedback you wont even reach the mileage

[swift sleet]

Don't blame players suggestions for scamplus' greed

[stable cosmos]

Well a good company might implement a lesser version of the suggestion. Or not implement at all. Funplus will take the suggestion and literally make it worse on purpose.

So unless you WANT that to happen with an event its better not to talk about it at all.

Sadly no matter how much we talk about some of them they never get deleted. Unlike FF which they do want to delete when all that was asked for was a very reasonable prize update. Not for more prizes.just to bring it to stage age or generalise it further

[stable anvil]

Again i want to know what is this person state number that they are asking for poly so easily while many players waited long time to collect and save to upgrade this is not including mid and up spenders

If this person is not even Gen skip Let alone 4 years plus then they have no idea how hard it is to gather and wait to upgrade.

This again points to feedback where players want reduced events. Reduced event means less rewards for f2p, therefore less upgrades

Events are not the problem, new updates are the problem. F2p should focus on bridging the gap by asking further delay on them being released

[viscid ore]

Sorry for my ignorance, but how do We get this out if there are no more ornament boxes to take?

🫣

[somber root]

Hi Teta, let me check and get back to you shortly 🤗

Have you completed all the ornaments on the tree or are a few still missing?

[jolly harness]

A few titles

Nothing special

[viscid ore]

I know but that’s not the point, the point is that they have set goals to achieve that cannot be achieved! How do I take other packages to unbutton ornaments if these packages are nowhere to be found...

[jolly harness]

There were in events throughout the month. Like in the fishing event and even in bundles

[somber root]

there are some bundles still available for purchase, under "season of wonder". the ornaments obtained are random though

[viscid ore]

I personally took all those I found around for the events and that I could take of course😭😭😭

[jolly harness]

Did you think to complete this without spending ?

[viscid ore]

Ok it doesn’t matter it’s as usual a badly thought out event and realised worse

[jolly harness]

funny you think they thought it out first

[viscid ore]

Lol

U are right🤣🤣

[jolly harness]

Devs work like this :

1. Drop the most random stuff
2. players complain
3. ' improve ' the event by jacking up the price cause f2p got something completed more then 50% or got usefull items

[viscid ore]

I've been wasting my time playing this game for years now and I still haven't learned!! Lol...It's just me who has an atrophied brain.🤣🤣

[jolly harness]

If you had fun and made a few friends you haven't wasted as much as you think you did

[fallow flower]

There was a Ferris wheel with some boxes; did you buy them from a store?

There were also 15 boxes of fish... as I recall.

[viscid ore]

I like to always look on the bright side. True, that's a positive aspect.

[viscid ore]

Ehi Zezo😍how are u?

Yes the ones I could take from the other events I took them😩😩

[fallow flower]

I'm fine, thank you...
I also only managed to collect 10, 🤭

[wet tusk]

If you played new event , share disaster

But not here

[jolly harness]

[woven spire]

Random?

[wet tusk]

First come first served

[woven spire]

Seriously

What kind of jokers are they

[wet tusk]

That is what I meant by random

No way to control who leaves or join

You need to micro manage an entire alliance

[swift sleet]

Gotcha, scamplus are greedy.

[swift sleet]

Events are the problem. Every event widens the power gap. I'd rather be p12 amd the whales be p13, at least it's competitive, instead of being p14 and the whales at p18

[crude stratus]

Even if all your 3 marches are killed you are still in the event

[woven spire]

We need to make clear list and rotations when dead lol

Thats insanely dumb

[woven spire]

Kick if people want to play their own game😂

[crude stratus]

On ptr the whole match took 30 minutes.
Absolutely no way to control anything

[woven spire]

Thats just ridicilous

[swift sleet]

They could make legions like rr. But I doubt the hamsters can keep up with the overwhelming numbers

[woven spire]

I am sure everyone want nexus back

It seemed also super boring

[wet tusk]

You can’t

[crude stratus]

You watched my video?

[woven spire]

Kick out alliance

[woven spire]

Ye and adas

Super boring

Gameplay

[crude stratus]

Super confusing gameplay

[woven spire]

We already need to play forced survival royal

• that i might end myself😂

[wet tusk]

You made one?

[crude stratus]

I just recorded and uploaded on YouTube, but not public

[woven spire]

The gameplay is just not what you expect from this game

[crude stratus]

This is literally the worst event they ever made

[woven spire]

Its actually insane. We said koth is bad, then nexus but this...

[crude stratus]

I told ya, people will wish nexus back

[swift sleet]

We say that every migo 🤣

Because it's true 😢

[crude stratus]

Honestly, compared to this mess, nexus is a really good event

[swift sleet]

We need someone to do a watchmojo style video of the top 10 worst sos events

[crude stratus]

Good luck finding someone

[swift sleet]

I'll do it then. I know most of the main sos content creators would be too chicken to pee off scamplus 🐔🐔

That's why it's so hard to find any video criticising the game. It seriously pees me off. When so many players feel that way

[jolly harness]

[crude stratus]

Has nothing to do with being chicken, if you are in an official team you have to follow rules. Pretty easy.
And within these rules, I criticize a lot

[swift sleet]

So no conflict of interest at all

[jolly harness]

If you agreed with following rules, then why break them ?

No one forces you or anyone to be here

you are allowed to leave at any time

[swift sleet]

Still a conflict of interest isn't there when you proclaim to be helping the playersbase whilst being team scamplus. No one said anyone should be breaking rules

[swift sleet]

Why? It's more fun to take the pee out of sxamplus' ineptitude

[jolly harness]

That's all you have to do ?

during holiday season ?

[swift sleet]

Yes, it's early morning boxing day and I'm up early. Why are you here?

Why is it yoir business what i do?

[jolly harness]

Cause i indeed have nothing better to do then this

[swift sleet]

Wasn't expecting an answer, it's none of my business

[jolly harness]

it's -3° outside and inside is nothing to do but watch series, i'm multitasking

[soft gulch]

There is no gameplay left in sos, all you do is top-up and improve your collection one way or other

One day they will release 5% per upgrade statues and your Island will be useless.

[naive vapor]

The only gameplay is RR and svs

Nexus was long and could be sometimes too much, but atleast it was gameplay

I dont count koth and survival royale as gameplay lmao

[halcyon berry]

nexus the fraction version was good . the last one was only an event which got very boring and way too long . the first week of nexus was always waste of time

[soft gulch]

RR is the only saving grace

But with a depleting userbase, it has become quite difficult to get fair matchmaking, which wasn't great to begin with.

SvS are one sided mostly. Nothing will change until joiners start making difference to the rallies.
They make sense until early behemoth levels, but then when everyone has 40-50% behemoths done, it's all on RLs.

Funplus lost the plot with SoS

They are still making a lot of money

[stable anvil]

Factually wrong. Events are events: Doomsday, Rr, koth, etc. they may be the catalyst to provoke more upgrades due to wanting to be more challenging but its the actual updates themselves that widen the gap. That year when we had more than 5 upgrades back to back then shortly the release of RES Evil Heroes brought the game into a slippery slope mode.

The only issue was that Dev had a set calendar release for state age and as time progressed it released it and it was reasonable.. but devs didn't think this game would last that long which is why the ideas and events are copy/paste and random. If they slowly released updates then that would have been good but because they got greedy the only thing they know now is release more updates and pray they get money

[soft gulch]

This has happened with their older games too

So they knew what was coming

The issue is that the stat increase curve is exponential

They don't want players to gain a lot of stats and then stop spending altogether and remain strong forever

A bonus statue ( remember sargent whiskers) used to sell for 499.
Same with statues which increase your march by 250 troops

Now no-one cares about them.

[earnest flare]

One of the ways to make the game fair... is giving more plasma .. so the ones of us left behind !! can atleast try to make up for the gap ... but nope.. the one post i make about it gets downvoted... cant see why ROFL .. the center has been untouched since launch almost .. while HQ costs gone up with launch of p16-17-18

[halcyon berry]

🤣🤣

[earnest flare]

-- making it harder to get back on track with other base buildings :p

[halcyon berry]

chiefty and me explained why your feedback is crap

if you not able to be plasma 18 its not devs fault its people fault because they focus on stupid stuff thats it

[earnest flare]

dude ive been plasma 18 a long long time :p .. but i dont feel like giving sos 1\2 my salary on pixels making all of my base p18 :p

thats for the rich and entitled

[halcyon berry]

you dont need do everything in your base p18 🤣

as f2p they only should focus on the important things

[earnest flare]

i want it... to be all p18... dont care what u want

hehe

[halcyon berry]

then build up but your feedback still crap

and plasma you get everywhere cheap from events

[stable anvil]

Then spend money

Dont throw f2p in your boat and then later start blaming devs when they reduce the amount of free plasma from event and increase the amount in pearl shop that it makes it impossible to even reach the mileage

Devs are not gonna hand literally 300 free poly each week for chump change.

And if they do again then monkey paw will kick in

[soft gulch]

Wishing to get something free, something changed is a deathwish in this game

They are Sadist with 505 shades of grey

[stable anvil]

Hence why mahiru left this server

[earnest flare]

7 of my alliance is gone simply cause .. too many new introductions.. ( more poly and plasma ) .. and 12 events a month .. in this economy its basicly do what you can to keep it afloat .. doing 99 gem packs .. and maybe turn 1-2 heroes RED a month

[stable anvil]

Complained about Jg and fishing event. And then when she got what she asked for she started complaining on top of her own mistakes

[stable anvil]

What is your state age

Are you gen skipped already

Been playing for how many year? 2, 3, 4 or 5 plus

[earnest flare]

scrapped the plan to go Rally lead replacement ..when what you need is 2-3 specialist heroes ,, on top of that to keep up with people thats left playing this game :p

and un-able to finish them older colab heroes .. since well ... you cant convert general reso frags into terminator resonance heroes

[wicked glacier]

Another update to Abyssal Skirmish - in test states, it looks like they have raised the player limit per alliance in the event to 50

It was a 30 minute event and we were still able to capture our 14 UTC bunker afterwards

[wide wraith]

its still very unprofessional of the Devs and specifically the CM not to have answered the various questions regarding the full running of this junk event

[stable anvil]

Yes 20 people plus needing to port to a bunker and then back to a hive for civilized states, but with others this doesn't help at all

[wicked glacier]

Yes, if in states that fight for bunkers it could be an issue. I'm just speaking on the experience I had today.

The feedback from my alliance about the event itself has been positive, except for the extreme lag/connection issues that had the game crashing pretty consistently. Similar, if not worse than, the first day of Nexus.

[wide wraith]

so its no improvement and would still be terrible for those in the US/UK or EU

[jolly harness]

Getting to P18 is super easy as f2p

[pliant shore]

Do you have a ss

[wicked glacier]

It depends on time zone in the US, for East and Central it wasn't bad. Australia was middle of the night and Asia was late at night. So not ideal for workdays really, but no worse than usual and only 30 minutes which was great

[wicked glacier]

Is there a specific screenshot you're looking for?

[pliant shore]

Updated version of this I guess

Ty much appreciated

[wicked glacier]

No problem 🙂

I'm going to clean that up a bit more Seo

[wide wraith]

i still cant see how 50 work on the warship

[wicked glacier]

The majority of time we weren't on the warship until we were close to the enemy - we were collecting gas and missile parts from the surrounding buildings to donate to the warship to help increase speed and build up missiles for offensive strikes.

[wide wraith]

cant see the actual point of the event full stop to be honest

[wicked glacier]

It was a really fun event for our alliance, everyone had their roles ahead of time based on the rules and objectives / tips we had from this post #⭐︱game_information message. One tip I do have - make sure to check on the other alliances in your faction because it doesn't matter how well your alliance does if the others lose their ships

[wide wraith]

makes no sense really but come to expect that

[swift sleet]

How is it factually wrong? Every event provides items that can be brought. A f2p will always buy fewer of those items than a spender or a whale. Thus increasing the power gap. It's not rocket science.

[stable anvil]

This collab store and previous one player got good amount of free stuff. Unless you sat there for 2 months not doing any of the free stuff then i can see why you complaining about being week.

Need to know what to get and when to take advantage

[stable anvil]

Also f2p are in it for the ride they are not in it to max up everything. Hence why F2p take the longer route to get something maxed

[swift sleet]

Ye, but spenders got more from that store. I'm going to change my name to Einstein because I bring it up all the time for people who still don't realise it doesn't matter if you get more free stuff when spenders and whales get even more stuff. The power gap is relative, it makes the game uncompetitive and frankly pointless to call it a game at all when people can't compete.

[stable anvil]

If that were the case the best option was for people to invest in a console and play those games

[stable anvil]

Sooooo whale have maxed thing and by having more useless items that wont get them nothing else suddenly doesn't diminish the gap unless more releases are made. Again events are not what make the gap its the updates

[swift sleet]

Best advice yet. Maybe they should put that in their misleading adverts?

[stable anvil]

Their are current cap on amount of skin and the amount of bonuses players they receive with 90 collection. Only thing most whales can get from collection are leth and health which have no cap or the amps

[swift sleet]

Events are updates when they conflate the two. It's tied in and almost indistinguishable.

[swift sleet]

So on one hand you say f2p should be buying plasma instead of useless stuff, then bring up skins which they shouldn't be buying if they're f2p. You see the hypocrisy?

Can't have both

[cloud ridge]

People chose how they wanna play

[wide wraith]

even with spending a little i concentrated on buildings, tanks, planes etc, maxed most building and all research and yet lose to statues, and morale, so the argument that collections make little difference is the thing thats wrong

[cloud ridge]

They either can play it the smart way in terms of growth and keeping up best they can

Or, they buy what they like even if its not the best thing to get, especially as f2p

[swift sleet]

So are these events or just glorified bundles? They're in the events schedule?

[cloud ridge]

Kinda like going for spec ops as f2p or behemoth skins

All those are literally events

[wide wraith]

but also pretty useless at the same time

[stable anvil]

F2p wont hit cap thats the thing your not seeing

[cloud ridge]

Troop drill technically has a bundle, throwdown if I'm thinking right event as I always mix up with showdown, has a pass bundle but its not worth it

[swift sleet]

Ye and many of them have stores to buy stuff from.

[stable anvil]

F2p dont care about how strong they are they care about how they look

[cloud ridge]

Rest no bundles involved

[swift sleet]

Relativity

[cloud ridge]

Stores yes, but no bundles

[woven spire]

Alot f2p that whines got few wings of 30 crowns🤣🤣

[stable anvil]

You complaining as the minority trying to represent the majority

[swift sleet]

Why not? If buying everything you can still means you get burned by a single march

[cloud ridge]

If you play smart you wont

[stable anvil]

Exactly

[swift sleet]

Really? Hmmm, want to do a poll on that?

[cloud ridge]

You play like victim card then you will

[stable anvil]

Ok let me elaborate

F2p want free stuff

This way Dwight can read small talk

F2p want wings and thing that make them look good

[wet tusk]

@pa

[stable anvil]

But f2p cant decide between looking good and being strong so they opt to look good

You are representing f2p everywhere as wanting more stuff for free

[wide wraith]

i just want the stats, couldnt care less about the wings themselves, they get in the way to be honest

[woven spire]

If you f2p

[swift sleet]

What's wrong with that? They stated they would slow down and close the gap. How are you supposed to close the gap if you don't give f2p free stuff? The gap is growing exponentially. Which makes the game pointless and uncompetitive

[woven spire]

You should be average max behe mk 1 2. Formation around 85-90m

But most do not have that

They have wings

He is right about that

[stable anvil]

You are the minority because you actually thing about strength rather than looks

[stable anvil]

Agreed

Only a few wings actually work but even then they hide infected like say for heist and they actually try to portray strength but in reality most people hid behind it

[wide wraith]

i have 3 sets on wings but never use them

[swift sleet]

No, pretty sure that's not right either. Most of my completely f2p friends would ask about upgrade paths and I would always tell them that the vanity items should come last. Where did you get the statistics on f2p are only after looks? You see one or two f2p with a shiny skin amd assume.

[wide wraith]

as for Heist, whats the point if you are maxed in those items

[stable anvil]

I got 1 wing

The og lion one because of health and leth which is very hard to get other than sentinels

But after that one wing i stop because 30 crowns for 750 pearl each, equals 22k pearls which could have been spent elsewhere so yeah players need to know how to go about the game

[cloud ridge]

You can check lots of feedback literally asking for stores to change and how much they can't get of x item.

Nothing wrong per say with it, but got to think like FP in how said changes would be carried out.

FP always makes things worse, people complained gems, fishy, dices etc, all slowly got nerfed.

[crude stratus]

Can you dm me?

[stable anvil]

I bet you ask you members now for dice event what did they buy most will say statues or hq. Me i went straight for the sentinels for Op fest related purposes and the one relocation effect because i was 1 piece away from the def amp.

[stable anvil]

Only thing pearl shop needs to be fixed is to add monkey crates for people who have yet to max it

Very hard to find monkey part outside of behemoth rallies

[swift sleet]

And what is wrong with scamplus trying to maintain a balance in the power gap? Which would mean giving some of the catch up items like plasma. Instead of the current state where the power gap keeps growing which makes for a boring game for f2p? That ensures spenders are still always more powerful but at least numbers or tactics male a difference

[cloud ridge]

I want og pearl store back, before people complained and got it changed 😒

[stable anvil]

And even then devs removed companion 4 frags from it after its initial release

[cloud ridge]

Monke is easier now, once monke done can focus all dino.

Will still take a while but there's more ways to get the parts

[stable anvil]

I missed the frame for 4k pearl that increases march skin, wondering if they will bring it back.

[swift sleet]

It contains monkey crates. Don't tell me youve been buying skins instead?

[stable anvil]

Was focused on more strength but seeing as I'm finishing them up i need more collection

[cloud ridge]

It might in some events or could be reintroduced to pearls.

Also the pearl store become more expensive as well

[stable anvil]

Yeah but not many monkey frags to convert for mk 0. Idk if f2p got to that point

[stable anvil]

I know what im getting

[cloud ridge]

It took me a while to max mk0, I dont think they will but they'll get to that point

[stable anvil]

Yup with discount that was the best feedback tbh

[swift sleet]

Boohoo, people asking for more stuff in stores.

[cloud ridge]

One thing I would like, is a bigger redeem chances for pigeon and yeti frags, as well the batteries

[stable anvil]

Bring back that thing is now routine which is reason why most players can do so many upgrades if they know how to prioritize

[stable anvil]

No because im smart

[swift sleet]

Great, they've maxed out their ford focus. Whilst the spenders are driving around in bmws or lamborghinis

[stable anvil]

While most people go for collection for looks i went for strength. And now that im.maxing buildings that took long time now incan go back and get collection for stats.

[stable anvil]

Again you dont see the bigger picture

[wide wraith]

i would rather have an easier way to get things like the ultra buttons

[stable anvil]

Its all supply and demand

[stable anvil]

Yes

[cloud ridge]

People asked for fish to come back, it came back with a worse store, people complained about perals, it can back with a worse store (Arguably some parts are good though).

People complained again about new fish store, not realising its that way due to event / Xmas theme.

People complained same for dice store not having gene anymore, despite once again the store being that way due to event theme

People complain when there's no need to and end up making things worse

[stable anvil]

The change in store and the currency from old store to the new hero store would have been the big deal breaker but devs had to change it from 2:1 ratio to 10:1

[swift sleet]

No it's you who don't. Competitiveness in games is about power gaps. It's no longer about your tactics or numbers, it's about how much you've spent.

[stable anvil]

By most people calculation if they converted majority of old rr/koth etc coins they would have gotten tons of behemoth ultra when they released the new Hero store

[swift sleet]

Yep. People asking for fish to come back didn't mean scamplus had to nerf the store. That's on scamplus. How is giving feedback on events people actually like makes the nerf their fault?

[stable anvil]

Then complain to players to spend more money

F2p are in it for the ride

Again this is a game with idea to gain money not to cater to the f2p

[swift sleet]

Or perhaps the people who balance the game like the devs?

[stable anvil]

Obviously if we let such feedback about plasma go by you gonna see devs increase everything else and remove everything else and then watch you come back here to complain about your own feedback

[wide wraith]

there will always be a gap between spenders and f2p but its just too big,

[swift sleet]

So they just do the reverse? Got you. So feddback is nothing more than a reminder of events that scamplus have forgotten to make more expensive. Right

[stable anvil]

Well im done talking already explained and seeing that people dont understand monkey paw is very sad

[stable anvil]

Just need to stop releasing new updates

Just logged in earlier and had an update and when going around seeing what happened i was wondering if they added a new mech, because last time i saw it was 5 but i see 6. So not sure what happened

[wide wraith]

the 6th one has been there for a few weeks now

[stable anvil]

Event can continue because they provide materials and stuff, but event that bring new updates need to be halted.

[cloud ridge]

Once fishey is back to normal if the store is much worse I will tag all people who upvoted feedback and call them idiots, same as other feedbacks

[stable anvil]

Dev seriously need to remember Covid is over

[cloud ridge]

It brings more attention to the events and often devs will change things do "match" the feedback made but not exactly the way people want.

Its still up to FP at end of day yes, but if we bring focus constantly they'll end up nerfing or removing to shut us up

Like how with bunker rewards being updated they would rather remove them than update them

[stable anvil]

Well there are 2 fish event. When dice given 4 sets expect fish to be about collection and pet which again players asked for because they wanted more statues and less upgradeable materials.
And when fish event is released outside of that expect materials for upgrades.

[wide wraith]

thats always been an issue though, the Devs never actually play the game so dont realise how time consuming it can be

[cloud ridge]

FP dont care about us, simple as that

[cloud ridge]

Yes, but people dont realise that and make feedback complaining

[stable anvil]

Yup yup

[cloud ridge]

I cant get x item from store 1/100 times event runs for the year

[stable anvil]

Like remove bios 100 percent

[swift sleet]

That's just a ridiculous notion though. When giving feedback just brings attention to events so scamplus can make them more expensive.

[cloud ridge]

Let me complain and screw things up more for everyone else cause I cant do my goals

[halcyon berry]

[cloud ridge]

That's how it works though, and people dont learn their lessons

[halcyon berry]

you all at funplus side 🤣🤣

[cloud ridge]

Hence why we do downvotes and I'll call people stupid and idiots,

[swift sleet]

How so? I don't understand how asking for more materials means you get less. That's the reverse of what was asked for.

[cloud ridge]

I would swear at them if I could

[stable anvil]

Well ty you players who upvoted to have bios removed from fishing now we have way less to spin on rays place and get more hero frags.

[halcyon berry]

@cloud ridge this discussion with him wont end he dont get it

[cloud ridge]

Because they changed it as asked for, just not in the way that was asked

[cloud ridge]

But its fun and makes for another good gossip episode

[swift sleet]

So basically scamplus don't listen to feedback. It's just a reminder to make events more expensive. So people should just stop providing feedback because they don't listen anyway. That's what I've been saying for years.

[stable anvil]

Monkey paw google it

[stable anvil]

Tag mahiru and ask how does their feedback about jg and fishing went

[swift sleet]

That's a ridiculous notion again. No one asked for bios to be removed from fishing either.

[stable anvil]

Blocked me because they didn't like the truth. And then left when things went sour because now we can tag their feedback and be like yeah this was the person who started it all

[stable anvil]

You bet

[wide wraith]

reverse psychology doesnt work on the Devs, but then neither does forward psychology

[stable anvil]

Gimme a sec to get the feedback

[wide wraith]

the Devs have their own agenda, they will seek out one peice of feedback to fit that agenda, even if they have to make it up

[stable anvil]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Fishing event about dropping bios from 100 percent to 20 percent. What happened now. Devs said ok remove bios because players dont want bios they want fishing materials so with one item out it give a itty bitty more chance to get more other stuff

[wide wraith]

i remember some said we needed more events back a few years ago, now look what we have

[swift sleet]

Well, they didn't implement that did they? They removed it altogether whilst at the time implementing none of the other changes. Scamplus' fault

[stable anvil]

So devs will give you what you want but with a twist and that will cost players more than what they have available now

[stable anvil]

You just dont see it

Bios was the issue so they removed it

[wide wraith]

like i said the Devs have their own agenda, they will seek out one peice of feedback to fit that agenda

[stable anvil]

Complaning gets you no where which is why feedback is crucial and not best to leave for devs to guess and wonder what do you means by that

[swift sleet]

I don't give a poop if players give feedback for more items or changes. Blaming players feedback on the game getting more expensive is just scapegoating the playera for scamplus' own greed. Besides the vote numbers on that don't even warrant it being on the top 10 feedback of that month. So it was just an excuse used by scamplus

[stable anvil]

I saw a feedback i had to downvote because i asked ok you said removed and reduce event.which ones need to be removed and which ones reduced. Devs will say ok lets reduced paying event and remove free events. Thats how i will respond

Like specify remove hidden treasures

Reduce so and so events.

[swift sleet]

I'd like to know how this blaming players' feedback for scamplus own greed started. Seems very convenient, taking the blame away from scamplus

[wide wraith]

the issue isnt about feedback as such, its the lack of communication from anyone at FP, if they select a certain feedback, they should talk it through before acting upon it, thats how feedback is supposed to work

after all without the players, spenders or f2p they are out of a job

i dont even blame the Devs as such, I blame the manager who signs off on any change

[swift sleet]

F2p are just cannon fodder for spenders, to make them feel good about their spending. The same feeling can be provided if the power gap would be smaller. With the added benefit fewer players would quit and matching would actually improve too

[wide wraith]

true but that doesnt fit with their agenda

[swift sleet]

Exactly, for short term profit

[wide wraith]

and to get that the best way is a high turnover they probably want the highest spenders to leave, hoping others will take their place

i only started spending because I was "zeroed" at hq 23, almost quit the game, if it wasnt for a streamer i would have. and i remember this discord at the time was no help at the time, telling me to spend or die

and that was before we had plasma etc

so when i started streaming i made it my purpose to help players to grow without spending or with only spending the bare minimum

[soft gulch]

I was zeroed first KE ever, like 14 days in the game.

I joined an alliance and their R5 quit on us asking us to join other alliance

So I did

This new alliance wanted me to move to their hive

I didn't have port 💀

So I couldn't move

Couldn't get alliance coins cuz no trap

They kicked me and zeroed me

Fkrs

Then I joined another alliance. I still couldn't move to their hive....

But somehow I got an alliance port, but R5 was in wastelands building towers

So I couldn't for a while

I cannot believe kind of struggle this game had at the beginning

Because I came from via some special promotion, I got the second builder for free

The f2p in my alliance were like wtf how are you building 2 buildings?

They thought I am using bios

We didn't have bios

Bios were also very less rare

I used all old codes and got some

[tawdry belfry]

So, we hate the migo event that gives the growing players a chance? F2p were ranked higher in individual merit than the p2w and there was no healing, no troop loss, and no resource loss at all.

[crude stratus]

How many players your alliance has?

[tawdry belfry]

But sure, bring back AD or Nexus where growing players are getting chased around or burned in their hives for rss or they just can't play

[tawdry belfry]

89 logging daily, 2 that don't

[crude stratus]

And how many of these 89 could participate in the event?

[tawdry belfry]

Could or would? 50 at a time - the length of respawn increases each time your marches die

So we rotated out players if their respawn reached over a minute

I'm not saying this event is perfect or ready, but Nexus and AD were awful for smaller players

[crude stratus]

50 was the limit.
But how many of your 89 are in the ranking?

[tawdry belfry]

We didn't have 89 online to play, we just got notice at reset it was today. Like I said, not perfect and not even really playable yet.. but AD and Nexus are not good for growing players

[spark kindle]

I'm fully f2p, in a mid lvl alliance (one rl and no krakens), completed the sets last migo thanks to nexus. Your argument is invalid. K ty bai

[tawdry belfry]

For you. That's great, those in my alliance did the same. They lost a lot more in the process than an event like the current one where they lost nothing.

Again, not perfect by any means - but also zero loss so not really comparable to Nexus or AD

[cloud ridge]

They "listen", very selectively, for example they added to res dot to alliance tech to say how many you had per 25 attempts.

That was a feedback they did, people hated it naturally and they then rolled back to only showing red dot once it was at least 10/25 attempts i think.

People asked for bunker rewards to be updated, devs didn't want to do that and I stead rather remove it altogether. Thankfully they cannot as they dont know how to do it with it being old code.

As Chiefty has mentioned, bios being removed from fishey, pearls being harder to get, the stores changing to not always have helpful items and often becomes more expensive.

They made a post ages ago about updating throwndown store and hyped it up, all they did was add search maps.

[modern panther]

A smaller player getting zeroed early on in Nexus couldn’t do much to get merit points afterwards. Even if it wasn’t giving any points to burn hq, it was a legit strategy.

[cloud ridge]

A lot of feedback is valid, but the feedback will be acted upon in a FP manner. It is not the players fault for trying to make the game better.

It is however their fault for knowingly putting certain sections in the cross hairs for devs to "adjust" knowing they'll 99% make it worse, most feedback is done by people who don't know what their on abou5 frankly.

[crude stratus]

You didn't have losses in nexus and ad btw

[tawdry belfry]

I'm pretty sure they lost rss.

[cloud ridge]

Nexus was a pain but good for glory, can do a set easy. Resources isn't something to care about losing, even though i dont think they did

[crude stratus]

Rss are pretty easy to get, billions

[modern panther]

Nexus was boring af for the first 4 weeks. It was a drag.

[cloud ridge]

It is, but easy glory, especially when obvious who will win

[modern panther]

This one looks fun but way too unstable to be playable.

[halcyon berry]

at AD you lost rss even at nexus they showed rss got stolen

if they at end really lost them at nexus i dont know but at AD they lost them 100%

[tawdry belfry]

Right. I have that, you probably have that - not all players have that. This event you literally lose nothing

[crude stratus]

But rss aren't a big issue

[tawdry belfry]

to you

This event is a zero loss event - nothing they've worked for or built gets lost or taken

[crude stratus]

Zero loss and zero give

[tawdry belfry]

Again, not ready, sure. Almost entirely unplayable? Yep. Should be even compared to Nexus or AD? No.

[wide wraith]

thats a good thing, not that some people will think so , but the key point has to be playability

[hollow zinc]

What a boring event. it's even more pay2win than all previous migo and MM is even more broken.

[cloud ridge]

Resources are not a big issue full stop

We get them constantly thrown in our faces

[wide wraith]

ok different question does it use stamina

[tawdry belfry]

People were excited to play and disappointed it didn't work but the overall response was positive to the idea of the event. It didn't have a 2 week drag time of an hour sitting there throwing a fake tonka truck at a building

[tawdry belfry]

no. no cost.

[modern panther]

I feel that even the small players have an impact by scavenging items to repair or give missiles to your battlecruiser. But the drawback is if your alliance isn’t very active, you will struggle a lot because upgrading your ship is very impactful.

[wide wraith]

thank god for that,

[hollow zinc]

Completely untrue, we faced a cruiser with 2x the HPs, doing 2x the damages and with a whale sitting in our cruiser with nobody able to take him down. You can do whatever you want you are just screwed. And you don't even have a chat to talk to the other alliances to coordinate wonderful

[wide wraith]

but as a smaller alliance, it sounds like we are stuffed

[hollow zinc]

Each time you go out and come back with 20 repair kits it 20x 90 HPs healed lol. They do 350 damages a shot and they shot like every second. How can we even defend against that?

[modern panther]

We can agreed on the lack of alliance chat for the event is something that needs to be added. For my experience, we face a stronger whale than us and we were doing more damage because we gathered a lot of missiles. Although, as I said, a less active alliance will struggle.

Less players, less missiles, repair kits and less upgrades.

[wide wraith]

we could win in Nexus because we were fast, but it sounds like in this we will struggle, meaning less will want to play, meaning we will struggle even more, its a never ending circle of despair

[modern panther]

Isn’t ad nauseam this pattern in general? People quit, alliances dying, alliances merge to prevail?

[wide wraith]

timezones and work patterns also come into play hardly anyone works plain old 9 - 5 anymore

it also means no hiding in Nexus so will use more bubbles for farm accounts during SVS

which i think is partly why that did it this way

mine are in the same alliance so it used to come in handy, but bully whales who didnt care about points would often just zero for kicks

or just use the free 8hr ones

again timezone comes into play

[wet tusk]

Can I DM you?

[wide wraith]

one of my issues with this new event is the timings, judging by the test states when we get it next week the friday is a normal working day which only give me as R5 one time, it cant be on a Saturday as they originally stated as that is SVS day for all the states in the full runout

All this which i raised before has been ignored by the CM who could have found out, but is so unprofessional, that she has stayed quiet

[halcyon berry]

@stable anvil @cloud ridge mr keto blocked me so i cant downvote his feeback anymore 🤣

[deft arch]

I just wanted to pop in and say I agree with good thing and disagree with bad thing. I have no idea what arguments are being shared cause I’m lazy and don’t want to read.

My suggestion is replace the new MIGO event with Alliance Plague Zone : The Summit

[stable anvil]

Same here

Dont worry i just send a couple states to downvote

[halcyon berry]

🤣

[stable anvil]

I really want him to actually get his feedback answered

Then when devs twist it we know he is to blame then just tag him in real game to be zeroed for all eternity

[limber coyote]

I hope that’s some form of sarcasm😅. When I read it, it at the same time sounds to me like a mad person trying to shout something out and him being happy he finally got something he always wished for 😂
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[cloud ridge]

Lol

.

[cloud ridge]

Let's fix that 😏

[cloud ridge]

If you make feedback ping, I'll gladly upvote

[halcyon berry]

yeah my opinion feedback reporting only for mods

[stable anvil]

Already sent that in for them to be discussed and they said to wait for them to decide on it or reject it

[cloud ridge]

@full rampart @thorn axle @kindred bough

Can we change how feedback can only be posted by mods, players can still obviously write their own format and a mod can simply copy and paste in channel

[halcyon berry]

would it be bad if i say are some mods scared to work then ? 🤣

[stable anvil]

Because it is. They got what they asked for and they just lost all marbles.

[cloud ridge]

I'm still waiting for my mod application to be accepted

I'll pick up the slack 😏

[stable anvil]

Bhahahaha but if you're blocked you cant even type up their own feedback 😂

[thorn axle]

Im confused

[full rampart]

[thorn axle]

Oh wait I get what you’re saying

I read it wrong

[stable anvil]

No need i sent a msg to ILMod

Been 2 months since last msg about this matter

[thorn axle]

That’s definitely an elky question

[swift sleet]

Nooo, now they're going to remove RR and it's all your fault!

[cloud ridge]

Stop getting confused women

[cloud ridge]

I tagged 😇

[thorn axle]

I have a sinus infection and trying to get ready for work with a splitting headache I’m allowed to be confused

[wide wraith]

Hey Tallie any news on the full timings for the full rollout of the new junk, i mean AS

[cloud ridge]

On boxing day? Let the patients fend for themselves women

[full rampart]

Helloo Shadow sadly no no news or i would have dmed you

[wide wraith]

hmmmm do we still have an active CM i wonder

and they cant blame the holidays as to quote them Christmas is irrelevant as not everyone clebrates it

[swift sleet]

Yes, they're like santa. Pops in once a year

[wide wraith]

thing is this one has never popped in, guess we have all been naughty

[swift sleet]

Can't see a tag on members list

[full rampart]

Is this why i haven’t got any presents

[stable cosmos]

Yeah can we have a CM that speaks to us for xmas? Or they can make a new years resolution to M their C?

[kindred bough]

Hello Duck 👋🏻
I see your point and why .. but until this moment there will be no change on the feedback system. Due to several reasons such as timezones and ability of us.

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We all are adults here so really those games of down voting each other is not fun the downvote means you don't agree with that feedback not the person but unfortunately its misused and it is sad to see people doing to each other. But we are always around you can report any incident to Dlmods or open a ticket at #🚨︱contact_an_lmod

[cloud ridge]

That's still frankly not an issue to be honest, if you manage it in an easy manner.

[cloud ridge]

This also wont work as a person wont unblock someone cause a mod said so

[stable anvil]

I tried

[cloud ridge]

I'm happy to discuss it if easier

[cloud ridge]

They just need a nudge to go down the easy route

[kindred bough]

I agree on that our concerns is we cant guarantee mods will be available 24h to post things which will again make you guys (all players) upset of the delay.

[cloud ridge]

Again, 24/7 aint an issue

If players get upset, send them to me

I'll make them more upset

Not a single feedback needs to be posted ASAP

[kindred bough]

me screaming internally

[cloud ridge]

You could argue only times are ptr related

[cloud ridge]

I scream physically

[kindred bough]

Yes you did and we had a really good conversation I appreciate it

[kindred bough]

not sure if I should ask for details.. 😂😂

[kindred bough]

Its late to scream physically here 🤣

--
I will get to this discussion table soon with the team 🌸

[cloud ridge]

I'll write you something later in dm for what I'd say would work

Cause I'm currently being fat 😌

[tepid rivet]

I left you a present the other day here and you didn't see it

[kindred bough]

Sound good send it whenever you have time

Thats a legit fat ...

Also I dont call it fat .. it more of "enjoying life" !

[thorn axle]

Take it back and give it to me

[tepid rivet]

I can give you another one and she can search for it on Easter

[swift sleet]

We've also been asking for years for them to update the bunker rewards and intel. They haven't listened to that, why is that? Perhaps it's nothing to do with players' feedback and more to do with scamplus' greed?

[halcyon berry]

yes they listen to that 🤣🤣. their answer was we either let rewards as they are or we remove bunkers

[stable cosmos]

It was actually. We're gonna remove them, oh wait we don't know how without breaking the game. Nevermind.

Ignoring that the rewards have been updated at least once and could be updated again without breaking anything. They'd prefer not to touch it rather than make any form of change that would benefit people

[naive vapor]

I think the problem with bunker is that its from the previous team and they literally can't change or remove or do anything to it without breaking it completely lol

[stable cosmos]

Honestly, any reward should just be a variable. All they ought to have to do is point it at something else. I have no knowledge of the language but i bet even i could find the bunker rewards and adjust them.

Also I'd adjust them to be extremely player beneficial and fp would then apparently be unable to change them back.

[viscid ore]

Is that a good number for Dev? More than 1100 players are asking for it to be replaced.
Maybe Devs should start listening to his base more carefully

[hollow zinc]

How do we increase our boat now? I see no way to earn blueprints to level up the damn thing.

[fallow flower]

I hope 🙄

[wide wraith]

another Roses situation, by the time they actually read it, they will say its too late as it the mainstay of this season's Migo

[wet tusk]

The chances in tidal escape apparently refreshes
Not the miles stones in collection just the milestones on the event itself

[hollow zinc]

I don't have tidal escape anymore

[wet tusk]

It will start again

[crude stratus]

They could easily replace it, or just delete it.
Or at least, test it properly before throwing at us. And properly doesn't mean one time in ptr and one time in live test states.

[jolly harness]

They won't do anything about it

Even with 50000 upvotes

[crude stratus]

Probably

[jolly harness]

If they get the event offline now there will be THAT few that will complain about the unfairness thst some states did get to test is while others couldn't and this creates an unfair progress in migo itself

[wide wraith]

oh I agree but experience tells me different

[hollow zinc]

You can't remove something you ask people to pay for. That's the issue of monetyzing everything ...

[stable cosmos]

Makes no difference sorry. 8000 people, or 3000, a LOT said cancel valentines and never do it again. Still ran and has been repeated multiple times.

This is where we sarcastically say "events are voluntary"

[hollow zinc]

It's fun how the feedback about a "hostility counter" was downvoted ahah. Some people want to continue lying apparently.

[swift sleet]

The rewards can't be worse than they are, it's an excuse. Especially when they use similar player feedback to remove rewards from other events.

[stable cosmos]

They absolutely could be worse. Rss crates. Rusty frags. Any of the badges. More merc hats cos we don't have enough of those.

Plenty of beyond tat we could be given without them giving us anything good but does fit an "updated rewards" narrative. Updated doesn't have to mean good...

[jolly harness]

Treasure those badges and all cause I have a good feeling after we get the hero gear update active they will do chief gear and all....

[stable cosmos]

Gonna be new material, obviously

[jolly harness]

Not with hero gear if you look at PTR

[stable cosmos]

Might be able to recycle 10 a week for new stuff

[swift sleet]

Right? So. if they ever do that we should blame player feedback.

[jolly harness]

Exactly

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Let's directly implement this

Surely prices of upgrades amd all won't be affected by this

[swift sleet]

Why would it? Who decides if they increase costs to accommodate the higher amount of free materials?

[jolly harness]

Problem is that f2p think they deserve to be as strong as a whale

Whale lost grip with reality

But most ( not all ) f2ps as well

[swift sleet]

Who gave you that impression? That's a massive assumption. The gap is just way too big as it stands.

[jolly harness]

have you acually read some of those feedbacks ?

[stable cosmos]

Feedback is open to all but it doesn't reflect the majority.

Some f2p think they should be up with whales I'm sure.

Most however would like to tank a single hit on their hq without losing 7 million troops at once.

And to do so all most people can think of is more available stuff. A change in the 🤬 mechanics around hq hits would help more

[jolly harness]

That's something i would upvote

but not asking for more stuff for free, cause then things get more expensive or something new drops that you don't acually get more for free

[stable cosmos]

I never want more free stuff. I'd prefer the paid for stuff wasn't exponentially better and that f2p had some form of hq defence so whales needed more than a single march to knock you out of the game

[swift sleet]

Yes, not a single one is asking for f2p to be as strong as whales.

[swift sleet]

Worth exploring too. It all adds up to closing the gap and making the game more tolerable and competitive. Why restrict one and not the other?

The argument is moot anyway. That's not the direction the game is going.

[stable cosmos]

I've posted before about ways to adjust the hq hit mechanic. There are a bunch of options with various amounts of granularity for how excessive you want it to be. However there is no point. The devs just want people to pay money. Not clarity on how someone is actually stronger.

Honestly the RR idea i had is almost feasible now. Match 2 teams. Both teams spend to win. The team that spends the most does. You have no idea how much your opponent is spending

[viscid ore]

But what is the method used to match Migo's new, super-awesome event? The value of the alliance as a whole? The value of the state? The prediction of potential players? The value of potential players minus those with a broken toenail? The developers' dreams? A quantum calculation for atomic fission?

[cloud ridge]

My method is not playing

[cloud ridge]

They have listened and replied stating they'd rather remove the event than change the rewards.

They listen to feedback and do their own thing from it, hence why a lot of feedback made on certain events only tends to make it worse 99% of time.

If they managed to remove bunkers then that's goodbye to 1st occ rewards which are the best reward frankly, maybe relos as well.

But that's more a f2p loss than spender of course.

Player makes feedback, devs focus on that area but will do their own thing.

If that plasma feedback as mentioned above ever got implemented, then as we're suddenly getting tons of plasma and poly they'll jack up the costs to offset it or even could frankly just remove the plasma / poly building.

[naive vapor]

Didn't they do something like that in nexus, you lost alot less troops when getting burnt compared to other modes

[thorny plume]

I saw this and well figured this was best way to wish us all a happy new year

[rigid trail]

[earnest flare]

only way I've seen is buying in on the pass ... while i thought we upgraded the thing doing missions :p

[earnest flare]

thats rather dark thinking ... but then I have only been in the feedback section for 1 week now ... but to be honest i never wanted 5 segments for upgrading a building anyway .. just one :p !! that on its own would lower plasma demand ..

and keep the purification center pls.. only free plasma and poly we get .. though its not as much as a bundle will get you .. :p

monotization will always win over f2p

[jolly harness]

play solo and complete milestones

[jolly harness]

They basically split the one upgrade way into 5... bringing it back to one will up the cost for upgrading x5 ... nothing changes only f2p can upgrade less cause they will more materials for 1 upgrade.. now they can split it in 5 which reduces speed ups and cost per upgrade

[jolly harness]

You get free plasma with intels
Even the purification center requires RSS to get plasma

[wide wraith]

its the same as they did with Chief gear

[jolly harness]

I don't mind it being split up for when you don't want to push sotf or prep ... you cam start 1 upgrade and get all points for the day

[jolly harness]

And then you have the lucky ticket event for free plasma as well.
If played with 2 braincells you can get even more plasma for free out of it 🤷

[sweet meteor]

I really enjoy the lucky ticket event for free plasma. If you save your tickets until you can max the crate progress bar (750 cards) you'll automatically get 180 plasma and 5 plasma crates. This might not seem like a lot, but adding it to the amounts you get from using the cards it can be quite useful!

[jolly harness]

Don't ruin it

But rose is right

That's how you play the event smart

But people fomo out

[wide wraith]

there are lots of hints and tips if you play smart

[jolly harness]

Even for a few free pearls

[sweet meteor]

I, as f2p would of course love to see it easier for us. But then again I've been here for 5 years and can remember the days you could only buy plasma and couldn't earn it

[wide wraith]

CoH was my bugbare

they were almost impossible to get

[sweet meteor]

I wouldn't mind the pearls being easier to get but that's where my fomo gets me. I spend them and can't save.

[wide wraith]

it comes down to how you want to grow, morale or basic stats

[sweet meteor]

With morale cap being so large now and many already hitting max, I think that would be something that could adjusted. Maybe the ability to earn more morale for each set upgrade in future.

What would be thoughts on that?

[wide wraith]

i dont think that would help, as more max they will just add more stuff

[sweet meteor]

True, they would have to add more to keep those that are spending around. It might help f2p feel as if they are getting more for their time. I think that's what it comes down to. Feeling like it was time well spent in game.

[wide wraith]

again it comes down to how you play not only solo but as an alliance

fomo comes into effect but for a lot of things its a team event

communication is as always the key

[sweet meteor]

Yes an active and cohesive alliance is a game changer, truly. Allows the ability to maximize rewards in all events for their tiers. I've always recommended that as a great place to start for free rewards. Even having 2 legions going helps every week with honor store rewards!

How are we liking those? I find they help when I am looking for the last few items to finish an upgrade.

[wide wraith]

my alliance is only small but we still have 2 legions legion 2 is just for a few extra points

we also use common sense, if as per normal in KotH, we are outnumbered we work as a team to jump possible traps, but it comes down to communication, well that and a player who we swear is a physic lol

ok i know my spelling is wrong but you know what i mean 🤣

[sweet meteor]

Yes yes. I understood fully! Having a psychic on the team would certainly help ❤️

[wide wraith]

well it like we say on voice, we will go here next, this player isnt on voice or even in the discord and they are there already lol

[sweet meteor]

In reality, it's the one person doing their own thing and paying attention to nothing. 🤣

[wide wraith]

well this person has been in the alliance longer than me so knows how we work so an anticipate

like i said common sense

[sweet meteor]

Ah well then yes, psychic strategic abilities

[wide wraith]

but in truth i would rather have him than a maxed player who is not a team player

the only part of the game i would change is less events, let players recharge their batteries having the odd day off

and i know you dont have to do every event, but in a way you do, if you want to grow

[sweet meteor]

Yes, I would agree there are many events at one time and sometimes it is hard to keep track. I see you did upvote the recent feedback on this too! I was just going to note it was there, before checking reactions.

[wide wraith]

its not even keeping track, just start at the top of the events list and work to the bottom , but its the time,

5 mins here, 10 mins there, all adds up, what with work, eating and sleeping. the day is gone almost before it starts

[sweet meteor]

I time myself sometimes and make it a race to see if I can get everything done faster each day. Makes another fun mini game for myself, I'm just realizing. However, You're right. That's why I say it has to feel like it is time well spent in game. If I'm going to spend 2 hours extra in game each week to do all the mini events, I would like to be able to at least earn the set that comes with at least one of the events.

I'm not saying that I want quantities of items to change in extravagant amounts. We get a lot as f2p now, than we ever did.

[wide wraith]

i know time management is a good skill to learn but for a lot this game is for relaxation or even escapism but sometimes it seems like a full time job

[sweet meteor]

Yes, many in my alliance are casual players for this reason. They would have to spend almost all day in game to finish events. I personally like each of the events, aside from a few. Just not all at once.

[wide wraith]

oh there are a few i dont like, especially KotH in its current format but thats really down to matching