📋︱feedback-discussion

[digital glacier]

Players submit feedback
They vote
Then it goes to weekly top 10
Then they vote again?
Then devs decide whether or not they want to answer.

Can <@&628563208164081690> explain the whole stupidity in this format and design.

Dev feedback being posted in the same channel after the top 10 voting (which is dumb) would easily show what devs do and don't decide to address.

What's the point of feedback if there's a good chance devs won't address it. Or 1000 players like it to make it top 10 but not enough vote to make it for Dec feedback 🤷 wtf

I don't vote for president 2 times 😂

Just 1

[wide wraith]

it would be better if a <@&555639728632758272> were to explain it

[digital glacier]

I don't order in drive thru the same order 2 times.
I don't want to pay for 2 meals.

[digital glacier]

@full rampart can you answer this for me 🥺

Or are you at a party 🤭

[elfin blade]

I just think there’s a point where you as mods are enabling it rather than helping

That should have been flagged as ridiculous, it’s a few points after months and not even the right points…

[digital glacier]

How come devs don't answer any feedback for 5 weeks?

[wide wraith]

probably because most rubbished their flagship event

[sage girder]

So in short, discord is not the only source of feedback the devs get.
They have their in game feedback team, GMs and other FunPlus platforms of sos.
Yes Lead Mod Mighty Elk passes the discord top10 and it's what you all see published here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1185728426770968677

But as much as we wish otherwise, that doesn't guarantee a dev reply, just increases the odds of getting one.

And trust me, it can be just as frustrating to you as to us.
Don't forget we are also players and feel sometimes the same as you..

[wide wraith]

so in otherwords the more you spend the better chance of your feedback being listened too

[sage girder]

I didn't say or hinted that but ok

[wide wraith]

after all to get a GM you have to have spent an obscene amount

[zealous crystal]

lol
could be true, or not

[wide wraith]

Mods may play the game, unlike CMs who have no idea about it

[sage girder]

Honestly not really, it's very random.

I had a friend who was a mediocre spender

And he got into the nice vip gm club, while our whale who was spending like he owns the company, got none

Can't tell you how exactly it is decided who gets a gm..

[elfin blade]

they barely listen to big spenders either, most of those feedback points aren’t what whales care about either

[wide wraith]

maybe the CM could tell us

oh wait CMs know nothing about the game

[elfin blade]

I don’t think there are CMs anymore are there?

There’s a survey out atm about GM support too

[wide wraith]

I dont either

[wide wraith]

nothing in my state about GM support

[elfin blade]

I’ve seen or heard about it in quite a few states, only to people who have GMs tho

[wide wraith]

oh so just to the chosen few

[elfin blade]

Big spenders get offered one, your whale probably hasn’t accepted it or is in a region where it’s difficult. The mid spenders who they can see have increased spending to keep them spending…it’s simple

[wide wraith]

wonder that you have to do to get even offered a GM

[elfin blade]

It is about spending, more spending patterns than a total figure tho

[wide wraith]

full P18 with full Gen 1 - 3 aircraft, 2 of the 4 mechs, most events no longer valid and thats just me

a few others in my alliance are the same

and i am no whale

more like a dolphin

[digital glacier]

Can devs just tell us subjects, topics, General question they WON'T ANSWER so all of us can quit wasting our time 🙄

No point in having 10 feedbacks if only 3 get answered. And with the least amount of votes at that 🙄
And quite often the ones that are answered in comparison to ones they don't answer, aren't even that serious

Here's a feedback for ya
I wish I could scroll back through the lower levels to get materials I skipped

[silent pike]

That could be a nice feature for players like yourself that have gotten to level 150 with still time left on the clock
You can make a feedback report here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in the channel or you could reach out if you need help with it

[digital glacier]

I'm not wasting my time writing feedback that might make top 10 and not get answered.
There's been 3 of mine in the past 5 weeks that haven't been answered, yet, other idiotic stuff gets replies.

Feel free to make it for me though.

Probably will be 5 in the past 6 weeks for this upcoming feedback 😂

[silent pike]

I could make it for you if you want

[digital glacier]

Have at it

[silent pike]

Give me a minute to come up with one

[soft gulch]

There are two parts

• cumulative spending till date
• spends in last 30 days

[silent pike]

This is what i came up with

Observation: In Mining Tycoon there is no way to scroll back up to levels that still have rewards in them

Consequence: Players that have reached the 150 level are still getting powerdrills, detonators and bombs but are unable to get to the levels that still have rewards on them

Suggested Solution: Give players the ability to scroll back up to the levels that still have rewards in them

State number: All

Could you look it over to see if you want anything changed or added?

[soft gulch]

If you cross threshold in both then you get yourself VIP and dedi GM

VIP12 is not necessary, when we were smol, I have seen VIP8 also getting VIP

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

This dude/dudette hasn't played POW

And she definitely hasn't thought that Carrier is a sea vehicle

[stable anvil]

I thought zombies cant swim?

Why swim when you can fly

[wide wraith]

unless its a helicarrier

[viscid ore]

But who is the SOS Genius who decided to play nexus on Saturday?? But besides making idiotic and horrible events, do you also do anything else? Do you have a real life? Many of us do!!!

Game more and more horrible

[silent pike]

From what i have seen is that there have been feedback reports that Nexus during the week wasn't really working for everyone because of work/ RL so that's probable why we have sometimes nexus on saturdays

[wide wraith]

we complained about having Nexus on a saturday last time, do they ever listen

[zealous crystal]

fron my inexperience, i think a balance of weekdays vs weekends is needed so everyone has an opportunity to play

[soft gulch]

It wasn't working well for RL cuz it used to fall during Working hrs

And you sneak in toilet at work to play Nexus, and do what? Ram into empty building for 6 weeks

Atrocious decision to have it on Saturday..

[wide wraith]

we need to have time away, less events, to be honest Nexus adds nothing

just scrap it

Nexus is like KE to most its totally useless

[soft gulch]

It's not even KE when alliances make deals, ours used to make all the times.
Our R5/Whale feels icky about burning HQs

Nexus needs to be scrapped totally.

Not a single person has a single good thing to talk about it and....it's running for 3 migos straight

[wide wraith]

i have an effective BP of about 3B, actual - troops and to be honest couldnt care less about Nexus

its boring, have to keep jumping in and out to do other worthless events like trap, horde etc

[soft gulch]

Their other game has 2 traps, you can attend either. It's crazy that trap in SoS are so mundane

[wide wraith]

not that half the time we bother with horde, heist etc

[soft gulch]

I had like 3.4b jumped by a billion when went P18
Got less than 10m troops

[wide wraith]

i took troops away over 12B with troops

[soft gulch]

Lmao

30m troops?

Mine was inclusive everything 4.4

[wide wraith]

21.9M troops

[soft gulch]

Whales see my BP and come running, salivating.

And then go back BHurt

But I have been burned by many whales in my bracket

[wide wraith]

but for most events training is all i can do

[soft gulch]

That's the thing

Only training is what you can do

[wide wraith]

without spending a lot more then i do

[soft gulch]

Behes 1 and 2 are done
3rd aircraft done
And by now you know that they don't really matter that much so....you don't give an f about 4th aircraft or Companion 3&4

[wide wraith]

my 4th plane is 4star

[soft gulch]

The new blue one?

[wide wraith]

yup

gen 1, 2 and 3 are maxed

[soft gulch]

I haven't spent a dime on that but with free materials lying in backpack I guess it would be 3.5min

The only thing that sucks in my build is I have a 1.6m rally cap and my carrier is just 4 star

[wide wraith]

maybe i should have got statues instead

[soft gulch]

I think they will give p19 p20 soon

Cuz P16, 17 didn't make any difference

P18 with 6 extra energy slots did a dent

[wide wraith]

i will use a lot of plasma on tuesday with tank upgrades

[soft gulch]

I have 1 mecha and 2nd was almost done.

[wide wraith]

i have 2, working on my rider

[soft gulch]

Super

Rider G1 skill is very nice, hope you using that

[wide wraith]

my inf was stronger than the state lead lol

but against a whale from s30 i didnt stand a chance

i am doing something wrong as my lead march seems pretty weak really maybe its the styles i have wrong using Berserk

[soft gulch]

You need nice gene therapy

Get decay/breach or torment

[silent pike]

Here's the link to your feedback report #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[soft gulch]

Upvoted.
Nice one from mufasa.
Guess something about broken clocks 😚

[soft gulch]

Then you take reos and shower them with plasma surge, energy overflow at minimum

[wide wraith]

thanks thats my issue i think

[soft gulch]

have we settled Adn is actually Eden? Or is that perfume brand from France? @silent pike

[wide wraith]

on sam i have overpower berserk 3 and blood fury 4

[soft gulch]

Oh nice.

You reminded me I should have sold my overpower berserk on G3

[wide wraith]

and resonating with agent 47 so lvl4

[soft gulch]

I will say get Ang .....it will take an year if you want it with events but she is worth every dime

[wide wraith]

but cant spend £250 to get her

[soft gulch]

You shouldn't

[wide wraith]

is the only way

[soft gulch]

Pity that locate frags aren't coming anymore

With event I mean

[wide wraith]

yeah

[soft gulch]

Locate frags recycle to 10 specops right

Skin to 2

[wide wraith]

but you need her specific to locate

[soft gulch]

NO what I mean once you have her located, then all you do is get skin or more locate frags and recycle them to specops

[wide wraith]

yeah i know

[soft gulch]

They removed from OF even rank 30 used to get locate frags

That is how I raised her

[wide wraith]

i have 44 specop frags

[soft gulch]

You would need way too nany

She has to be at bare minimum Reso7 + both sides of skills open

[wide wraith]

yucky lol

[soft gulch]

Lol

[wide wraith]

will have to stay as a power joiner

[soft gulch]

Very quiet caturday

[stable anvil]

I dont want to open this can of worms but i will since i just got this a week ago.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[digital glacier]

It's just stupid in fishing to ask for more bait instead of bio 😂
I mean, they could have simply said hey, when we do get baid, which ain't often, it's not much. Need increase.
Or better yet. Shut up 🤭

I've done the math previously on that with the average rate of fish caught / clams earned it's just not worth the difference.
Sadly.

[stable anvil]

Yup

Just going down the list and im like damn. So now it make sense why no bios. Devs are not even dealing with feedback made in 2025 they still in 2024

Should have been a big indicator now for players to not listen. Rather if you see a Mahiru in game burn the player completely

[digital glacier]

HERE

Some just don't comprehend it.
It's like they think only they get the statue or only they will have enough to get 2 of them or something. Or only they manage their biocaps well enough to do without, but they probably don't factor in, fish have a lot of bio for them to spend at their habitual rate they did 😂and they don't factor that into their calculations for wanting bio gone.

Bio in fish =
Then you can pick other things in lucky card and have tons of bio still to max rays and other stuff
^idiots don't understand

[stable anvil]

I remember. Because i saw the massive amount of bios from fishing, jungle gems and mining and i usually had 1.5 mil bios in reserve while also having 500k to 700k out in the open. Then after all feedback about bios to be removed or rates decreased happened, i saw my reserves hit 700k max maybe 1 mil bios if lucky and then i would have at most 100k bios out open. Its ridiculous when people dont think consciously what they are asking for when Bios have a higher demand and use for the overall game

[digital glacier]

I'm at the point of giving up on this crap.
Its really hard for me to say what's making the game worse
I'm leaning more towards the first one on this
Idiots vs devs

That level 100 nice on alt and 150 on main was nice

There's a lot more need for drills in mining. There's a lot of stuff to be had

[stable anvil]

Still a bit off on mining i have higher lvl on alts than on main. Because i hit the freakin brick by mistake

[digital glacier]

But fish. Na. That's % chance catch rate. I'm good with bio being there.

I've screwed up several times cause lines move and I click impatiently 😂

And blocks do suck. Which makes a higher need for buffs not bio.

[stable anvil]

True true. Rather more coins and more items on the listing and more in the idle

Shhhhhhh 🤫 i dont see anything

[stable anvil]

I just wanna congratulate the Devs on getting Money from nitwits

Players in pow spend 5 usd to do auto but weakling do it to lose

[wet tusk]

They should go back to the era where people used to buy bios 🤣

[digital glacier]

They should inject P3, p5, p8, p10, P13, P15, p18 into the GROWTH FUND!

Since those were the jumps in progress of plasma levels 🙄

[wet tusk]

Remember, P18 was brought also by player feedback

I hope some just stop and take a deep breath before writing a feedback or stop saying all states

[digital glacier]

I didn't ask for p18

[wet tusk]

I know who did

[digital glacier]

You spelt a word wrong.
MOST

Not some

[wet tusk]

I will agree 💯

[digital glacier]

There need to be a player council that reviews and approves and denies and submit the feedback.

There's some who just want to ruin every single thing anyone ever enjoys
Some have good intentions but have bad solutions and make things worse.
Few actually have good feedback with good solutions.

Read that and lemme know when you done. Look at the timestamp of it.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wet tusk]

Okay

[digital glacier]

The. Compare it to this one.
And look at the timestamp of it.
And you tell me.
Who's solution is better?
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[wet tusk]

Yours
I upvoted it the minute it was done

[digital glacier]

Idk about you, maybe I'm biased towards my own 😂 but 1 area vs 5 for a march setup seems a lot more user friendly 😂

[stable anvil]

You tagged the wrong feedback

Thats one with outdated material though not March setup..or did i catch that one wrong

[digital glacier]

Oh and it's the same function for res hero remove restriction. I just also included the area to look for to help them in implementing it (showdown). 😂

[wet tusk]

Your feedbacks are well structured
It actually addresses a problem with a solution that doesn’t take away or affect others

[stable anvil]

Its because you leave no doubt. 😂 The way you write is down to the point and simple to read. But sadly reading comprehension is crappy with customers service as well with devs. Use your example of they cant do simple math.

[digital glacier]

I did 🙈 I fixed. Ty. 😘

[stable anvil]

But i agree. They skipped your feedback and made their own which i actually upvoted yours because you gave the whole layout and how to properly solve the issue

[digital glacier]

And these are issues that needs to be addressed before
I want a "my pretty pink pony march skin / sentinel"

[wet tusk]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[digital glacier]

And that's what so many lack in feedback

[wet tusk]

This is another feedback I appreciate
I may disagree with a part of it but I actually like it

[digital glacier]

What you disagree with?

[stable anvil]

Nexus does need to lower overall building seige.

[digital glacier]

Weak in whale alliance fighting whale in other alliance and everyone burns by the whale?

That's crappy for the weak in whale alliance,

[stable anvil]

Like how much of each player actual strength contribute to how much siege point. You have maxed players doing 3500 siege poins for example and smaller players doing 3100.

[wet tusk]

Linking the whole thing to alliances BP
They should match alliances with similar powers
We are the only new alliances in my group
I am not complaining that we are matched against two alliances with players in top 20 global leaderboards
But Every single alliance of all 7 had years of troop training and we are just joined the matching pool

At some point the whole map seems to be against us

[digital glacier]

They asked to change to old nexus. Devs basically gave middle finger on that. So this is how it's gonna be.

Might as well try to make it fair for everyone

[wet tusk]

Why we have to defend for one hour while the attacker can take it in 10 minutes?

Why we have to defend buildings every single damn fight?

Just make it available for 1 day and another day to retake them , then lock them

Why 3D modules stop by losing connection?

[digital glacier]

Yeah, there's some outliers in the alliance matchup. There's some whales in a weaker alliance
But Its not so much about if there's 1 whale who can burn everyone. That could be in any alliance matchup.
In a sense, Like me in my nexus group. Weak alliance, but I'm strong I wounded 50× more troops on a p14 base than they wounded on my 1 march capacity in a building with whatever the F showed up 😂
But it's about for the most part, alliances are generally similar in tier. And comparing the difficulty of strong V strong and weak V weak, weaker have it harder.

[wet tusk]

If it is currency and trade it should continue no matter what

[wet tusk]

That is why I upvoted it
Because it offers a sense of fairness

[digital glacier]

I've said something like this since day 1
Stage opens, all buildings available in that state open until stage end. No 1 hr fight. Cause some in my nexus ain't got past CP1 😂

Less rewards cause less trade routes.

Aka. Harder for weaker tiers.

[wet tusk]

<@&628563208164081690>

I think that is worthy of feedback

[digital glacier]

I still haven't found in nexus description what "battle stage" is.
Its mentioned but not defined.

Anyhow. I gotta check mining on alts and do treasure dig and intel on my main for migo task 😂

[wet tusk]

The only word that matches that is matching time , they used matching time as indicators for battle stage
Otherwise nothing else says what is battle stage

[wet tusk]

Good luck

[drifting viper]

Hi dream! Hi Mufasa! Do you want me to submit feedback on your behalf?

[wet tusk]

Hi Dream
Maybe some other time so he can be available to review it if he wants to submit one
I maxed my feedback quota for this year 😂

[drifting viper]

Haha. Yes! I dont want to disturb him doing pre reset stuff. just tag me when you want Mufasa and ill go over it with you

[wet tusk]

Tysm 🌸

[digital glacier]

Tell devs to stop being such dumb inconsiderate worthless piece of wet toilet paper on the bottom of a public beach restroom floor and actually do some of the feedback I have posted that made top 10 that they have failed to answer, address, or implement in the game

[stable anvil]

Soooo i see devs made a different icon for Dreadbeast vs fiends. But why is it that when you zoom out that all you see are fiend icon and you need to constantly zoom in and out for the Dreadbeast icons to appear to the search for a lvl 8 in Nexus that again is never showing up despite previous feedbacks

[digital glacier]

I love having to pick multiple time slots for rr.
Then forgetting which one we got.
And then being inside nexus and not seeing the icon appear.
Or any banner it's about to start.
And then this happens

[digital glacier]

Why should I have to leave nexus to be able to view the event time?

[stable cosmos]

Searching for lvl8 dreadbeasts is a misery. Hit 4 locations in nexus probably covering a 500km sphere of my available rally locations. None

Will more than likely use a random relo in the main map to find one

[stable cosmos]

Who suggested those changes to rays place? Be realistic... there is no way in any reality the devs are going to do that. You may as well have asked to make rays free.

[soft gulch]

This feedback is about feedback that I gave

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

I mean I have been saying for long time

We need moderation to filter out feedbacks

It's really sucky that a good feedback needs to rely on upvotes to get featured

And a bad feedback needs a lot of downvotes to be cancelled out

But if in the end everything is reaching devs, nothing will get done

Feedbacks need to be selective, filtered out.

Precise solutions should go to devs. And there should be limited feedbacks going to them and that will make things easier for every one

[stable cosmos]

I get the whole "we wanna be inclusive" but some things should never hit top 10 regardless of upvotes. Because they're quite frankly insane suggestions. FP are never gonna implement anything that results in an actual or perceived loss of money.

[soft gulch]

Of course.

They removed the Yeti frags from Behemoth Challenges.

So right now there is no way F2Ps can make any progress.
Worse part even mid-spenders cannot cuz no Yeti crate in 99d bundles

But the feedbacks aren't only about making items easily obtainable. genuine asks about Nexus are ignored completely.

People are asking for timeslots better suited for US/EU timezones -- ignored

Bugs and issues with building -- ignored

[floral sedge]

There is yeti frags in the Fountain of dreams event draw rewards now, but only % chance ofcourse, spacecraft crates as well

[soft gulch]

Now this one.
Absolutely doable.

In fact even Level 1 and 2 fiends can be removed to make some space. Anyone can kill them, even in new states.

[soft gulch]

Even if one hits it everyday they aren't going too far.

Isn't the batteries and frags are reduced in Yeti crates?

[floral sedge]

Give me a second to check

[soft gulch]

Compare it with MK1 and 2 and Eagle Behe crates

[floral sedge]

Same amount as the bundles from the looks of it

[soft gulch]

This^

[floral sedge]

1 battery less

same amount of frags

[soft gulch]

Ok frags same, batteries less, serum less

[stable cosmos]

Behemoths don't work correctly as far as i can tell. If an 8 is killed it doesnt create a new one, think it just creates a 6. Or it creates a random one from 3 choices out of a total number of dread beasts on the map.

When everyone wants an 8 but you get, on average one 8 back for every 3 killed.

[floral sedge]

I do agree that upgrading the yeti companion, aside from the very limited weekly exchange, is still pretty much behind a paywall despite it being in the fountain of dreams event

[cursive vessel]

I haven't touched the yeti but that's cause I'm struggling with eagle instead

[stable cosmos]

All the companions are b------s. They started out graphical for marches and "this only affects your hq" you'd think then that this would be a great f2p mechanic and everything would be super available.

No. You are wrong

[soft gulch]

There is another issue with companions.

You cannot do base skill upgrades like MK1 and MK2 by just using frags.
And just opening the skill at base level.

But that's different matter

[floral sedge]

The eagle is also still expensive, yes the frags are in pearlshop, but the skill and level upgrades also very limited

[soft gulch]

I almost finished eagle (on frags) completely from pearls + fishing + bargain bash + behemoth challenges

[cursive vessel]

Yep, it's ridiculous

[stable cosmos]

everything is expensive. The only thing thats cheap is purple heroes

[floral sedge]

RSS is quite cheap, free even

[stable cosmos]

Rss is expensive in biocaps. Total ripoff

[floral sedge]

Yeah but who buys RSS with bioscaps

[stable cosmos]

Anyone spinning rays place

[cursive vessel]

My main account is pretty neglected at the min, nothing much is getting done on it
But i pick my battles these days, do what I can and ignore what I can't

[floral sedge]

Can't agrue with that

[soft gulch]

Now behemoth challenges are very nice route, but you need to be top 10 or 20. So only f2ps with fast fingers have that way

[stable cosmos]

I think my game is missing something

[floral sedge]

If you have maxed both behemoths and eagle companion, you could help a few weaker members of your alliance get a way higher rank while you yourself lose a few

[floral sedge]

more Blue hero frags ?

[stable cosmos]

I would like a blue hunter hero

[soft gulch]

My rallies I used to ask weaker ones to send hunters only

But they have patched that off late

[floral sedge]

If rally lead sends only infantry, the joiners get most of the points

[cursive vessel]

I usually get top 20 as a f2p. Only thing I do well in

[floral sedge]

What i'm getting is you want to feedback this so we get new blue heroes

[soft gulch]

No if rally lead changes the formation, behemoth don't get attached....
Sorry I m talking about annihilation.
Behemoth challenges are a fart.

[floral sedge]

yeah and the points of said rally will go the joiners instead

i tested it a few weeks ago

[soft gulch]

I see

[floral sedge]

when i send only infantry, the joiners points went up way higher as when i would send my behemoth formation

This was with me and 4 other players, so not a full rally, but i think the idea is the same

[cursive vessel]

nice mod

[wraith vapor]

Jury is out on that one 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I will do all my own feedbacks to be ignored thank you. I do not need someone else ignored on my behalf

[floral sedge]

'twas a joke to be fair

[soft gulch]

Can there be a surprise daily login reward everyday

[floral sedge]

How will you claim it when you don't play udham

[cursive vessel]

Nah, he's one of the good ones

I don't say that often

[stable cosmos]

Daily rewards needs a rejig too. Might do that one. Honestly 1 potion a day and a random relocator on day 7 would probably be better than what we have

[soft gulch]

Good question
But not everything that i ask is for me.... It's for humanity

[floral sedge]

You just know the suprise they will offer is 1 or 10 tomatoes with 0.2% for 100 badges

[wide wraith]

the surprise login is what mini event will they add

[floral sedge]

and a 499 bundle to double the log in rewards

[stable cosmos]

Brainstorm. How much of this to keep. How much to replace and with what. Be realistic with the swaps too. No capsules or frags would be accepted so don't bother

[soft gulch]

Another thought, they won't give rewards for login, because ppl log in 20 times a day without any incentive

[floral sedge]

Day 3 - 5 - 6 - 7 should be updated 100%
day 1 - 2 could be better

[stable cosmos]

6 and 4 are the only ones I'd keep. And 6 only cos its interesting

[soft gulch]

They give 1 glue bottle, that doesn't even get recycled during resurrection 💀

[stable cosmos]

1-2-3-5-7 are all definite replacements then. Pick some small items we could swap in. Sensible ones. I would suggest a 5 minute construction timer buff and a 1 minute general speedup wouldn't be out of the question

[floral sedge]

I'd put 1 or 2 gold hero frags on day 7

[stable cosmos]

It would be 1, and they overvalue those frags immensely so its unlikely

[floral sedge]

Well, need it for hero skills, and since it got removed from the pearlshop, they are very hard to come by

[stable cosmos]

They are. And they're worth no points 99% of the time. But the devs offer them for excessive currency or rank #1 rewards so they don't want to dole them out free

[soft gulch]

50 Blue potions
10k biocaps
2 Poweeup crates (new ones)
3 locators
5hr general speedup
3 Troll-squad heroes crate
30 tempest making item

[stable cosmos]

🤣

[floral sedge]

He said realistic

[soft gulch]

Ok divide by 10 and round to next whole number

[floral sedge]

Still too much

need at least 1 useless thing in there

[stable cosmos]

I couldn't see them giving us even 1 potion, although that would be a fair replacement for a blue badge

[soft gulch]

We think too low of them.
I mean not that we are judgemental always 😄

[stable cosmos]

I don't think we think low enough.

[soft gulch]

I want to start a new sos dc

Where ppl can bish with no guardrails

Blow that hot air out

[buoyant veldt]

Yes please.

[soft gulch]

@jolly harness You wanna do funniest thing ever

[stable anvil]

Question did that feedback ever reach devs ear to make massacre reports visible?

A report is a report. We get reports on wins and ones with loses yet yield solid damage but why not massacre reports.

[wet tusk]

I thought there is multiple already

[soft gulch]

Anyone with anonymous posting channel, and allows unlimited cussing?

[grave warren]

Every feedback reach devs, our department who keep track of everything, collect feedbacks and suggestion from every platform and transfer it in a page who it's shared with devs, plus the feedback in feedback reporting channel too, so yes also the feedback about make massacre report visible reached devs.

[wet tusk]

Let me ask the owner

[soft gulch]

Can we have a dev hour sometime?

[cursive vessel]

[grave warren]

Unfortunately there is no way for us for have a direct interaction with devs, but we could "Try" to "Ask" if is "Possible" to "Valuate" to organize something like that with the CM, in fact you just made me have a cool idea.
So in the end for answer to you, no isn't possible something like that in the way who you have asked, but maybe there could be a chance to organize something similar who could involve the community, please note who i've used ---> " <--- and the caps for a specific reason.

[soft gulch]

Put a feedback, that we should have a dev chat. Just once per migo. They can come stay for a day and leave, come back 3 months later

[grave warren]

Yeah I've did something like that, let's see what answer we will get, but isn't a "simple" thing to even organize, in any case, let's give a try

[soft gulch]

Super let's try.

[wet tusk]

Lianin quit before her promised chat
You are dreaming

[grave warren]

I've will do also the feedback for make it up voted by the community one moment

[soft gulch]

I like to be surprised.
I believe in Santa, miracles... Wings on the shoulders, horn on the head, pigs flying.

I am a simple man. 😄

Mufasa is typing something big and bishy

Type fast

[grave warren]

On behalf of a player

Observation
Right now there is no way for players to have a moment of interaction of any kind with devs/the company on the game.

Consequence
The lack of communication lead to a lower level of morale from players, also cause simple feedbacks as every kind of "words" could be miss understood, and misunderstanding can make things worse.

Suggested solution
Trying to valuate with the "right persons" from the company to organize "something" every X amount of time for talk about topics related to the game like how things are right now, plan for the future of the game, players concerns.

State:
All states

What you think about this?

[tepid rivet]

[soft gulch]

Pretty good.
And thanks.
Please remove my name 🙂

[grave warren]

I will remove your name okay, i've added a line on consequence, it's okay that part too?

[soft gulch]

It's fine. But we just want an assurity that feedbacks are getting read and going in a pipeline

[grave warren]

About that, I can answer you, who we had confirmed even from the CM who the feedback are being read and have the valuation who they need, so yes about that I can already tell you who the feedbacks are getting read and discussed

[wet tusk]

Lexie 💕

[grave warren]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

I've added the "Players feedbacks" part too in any case to it, you can share it with your friend and make them up vote it

[wet tusk]

Can you add CM please
When was the last time , CM actually replied to feedback here?

God bless Saberlot wherever he is

[tepid rivet]

Lagertha

[wet tusk]

Really?
So 1000 feedback about matchmaking being bad
Nexus being terrible
And game dying is also discussed?

[grave warren]

Since the CM work for the company it goes under "the company" part but I can add it specify the role if you want yeah

[tepid rivet]

I remember when we had dev chat with LANS and in a split second the whole screen filled with questions 😂

[wet tusk]

No need

[digital glacier]

Why no reports for trap, Dino
Etc 🤷

[grave warren]

Discussing doesn't mean everything get approved, there could be things asked from the players who doesn't match the will of the company, it's possible that too, but this doesn't mean who we have to stop for make our voice heard, so the best things it's keep making feedback about our concers.

[digital glacier]

Using this as a notepad for my post which I've done some before but there's new additions now

[tepid rivet]

Yeah like the one feedback with 3k upvotes (twice) to remove roses event

[wet tusk]

So feedback are useless unless they match the company will even tho the players ( customers) are the ones doing it

Got it

I will pass then , thank you

[digital glacier]

Just for funsies here.
Without looking in game or cheating searching or looking for screenshot or posts or whatever.

Who can tell me when hero appointment conversion reset?

[wet tusk]

They made the HQ cheaper
So no more inappropriate photos sent 🤣

[tepid rivet]

Monday reset no?

[soft gulch]

Every Monday l?

[digital glacier]

And you're 50% right both of you.

Let's try another.

Who can tell me when Behemoth conversion resets?

[tepid rivet]

'The past roses event has caused some unpleasant issues we will address and avoid in the future' - by launching another one

[wet tusk]

And in case you don’t like roses event
We will add in game likes 🤣

[tepid rivet]

I zombie walk into game at 5 am my time in the morning on a Monday and then do all the conversions 23 my time on a Sunday, so there's that

[tepid rivet]

But you only get to see who likes you, not who dislikes you, we like to keep a positive attitude!

[digital glacier]

Lemme help with question 1.

Here's question 2.

Sunday 0 utc
Vip store
Tempest store (2 week cycle)
Rally enhancement (no timer just a guess)

Monday 0 utc
Alliance store
Behemoth conversion (except mk1 frags, serum, Biobatteries to Mk0)
Conversion- Hero appointment > newest release 2 items
Aircraft conversion
Spaceship conversion
Weekly deals
Purification plasma > poly
Conversion- Resources > crystal essence (no timer just a guess)
Conversion - Potions > gene catalyst

Tuesday 0 utc
Skin store
Wednesday 0 utc
mk1 frags, serum, Biobatteries to MK0
Conversion- Hero appointment > (excluding newest 2 items)
Honor store (2 week cycle)

Thursday 0 utc

Friday 0 utc

Saturday 0utc

[tepid rivet]

Dang so I'm doing great doing everything on Sundays when all the timers reset during the week

[digital glacier]

But F up don't you think.

Spacecraft is the only design we need.
They can edit that 1 screen and put all the other crap in there.
There's dozens of buildings and tabs to visit for conversion.
Crap like that needs 1 place.
1 reset time.

[digital glacier]

I do mine Sunday as well. That's when vip reset and 1 day before alliance reset. So I can make sure to get that stuff done. I like my mansion 😂 Then Monday I hit up alliance shop again and sometimes hanger but I often forget that on a Monday 😂

And honestly.
Im not sure I got everything in that list either
(I know skin skip but what 28 day cycle?)

30? 14? They change it a few times, I don't keep up I just look on a weekly basis at this point when I go to buy my mansion tickets

[tepid rivet]

Skin store? I believe it's back to 14 days

But was 14 - 30+ at some point

[soft gulch]

Skin store is longer

[digital glacier]

It resets soon so will see.

[soft gulch]

Craph, I couldn't claim santa's workshop

37500 tix for 3+ yrs old skin

Meh

[digital glacier]

We still have in our thing
I like joker one but no set for it
And 37.5k 😂 gtfo I spend 30k and get the Sakura dream, 2 hq skins
Or the samurai warrior both skins 😂 and have 7.5k left for being close to snag another.

[soft gulch]

Yeah it's so damn pricey.
Cuz completing collection gives 1% def amp

[soft gulch]

HQ skins are a dopamine

You want them but as soon as you get them you are done

I used to think customizations is feminine, I was wrong

Everyone likes shiney thangs

[digital glacier]

Shiny. No.
Creepy scary Halloween stuff. Yes.

And style. Sometimes. 😂

[soft gulch]

Let me send you something

[digital glacier]

This is why we need people to moderate feedback being given. Please refer to the following post. #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[soft gulch]

Suggested solution is bad

[digital glacier]

Look at my post that follows it 😂

[soft gulch]

I am gonna look it up

That OPS seems interesting

[digital glacier]

Ops? Outlier plot system?

[soft gulch]

Yeah I just looked it up

[digital glacier]

Yeah here's the picture outliers
That would I. Prove the matching so much
Majority of alliance members registered would be inside the box.
The obvious whale would be the outlier
And the weak f2p crappy alt would be a minimum outlier.
Then if they matched based on that graph. Well, matchup would be so much more equal.
Yes, enemy whale can still burn everyone in the box for your team.
But your whale can burn everyone inside that box for their team.
So it's like a 1v1, 30 times over

Right now, it just seems like
Whale with 1,000,000score
Alt with 10k score
1,010,000
Vs
10 players with 101,000 score
1,010,000 score 🤷

[soft gulch]

Yeah it's pretty nice idea

[stable anvil]

Lol this is funny

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable anvil]

@flat zealot what state are you in? That you say Old States have bigger advantage compared to Newer states.

[soft gulch]

I have seen a saltydog in my bracket

[stable anvil]

Just want to make sure it the right one

Because state number determines how upgrades and discounts came about

[pliant shore]

There's a saltydog in sas 1051

Not sure if it's the same guy

[flat zealot]

Its the same guy

[soft gulch]

This you?

[flat zealot]

Yup

[soft gulch]

Ok.

You are in our expanded bracket

[flat zealot]

Yes

[soft gulch]

You had gen skip last migo or migo before that

[flat zealot]

Yes

[soft gulch]

So we are matching all old states in nexus, rr and svs. Had svs woth 317

It's basically troop difference which is sticking out

[flat zealot]

Well troops difference is huge and all the free to play players collecting and upgrading for 2-3 years longer makes a difference

[soft gulch]

We defeated 317 quite comprehensively but could barely burn them in KE, cuz of troop difference

[flat zealot]

Then to see the governor buffs

[pliant shore]

Tbh it's a give or take , cause compared to back then , nowadays f2p can get way more items for free etc with jg

[soft gulch]

In RR, one side can make all weaker opponents sit behind the lines, but the other side cannot. This is a dealbreaker in some cases

[flat zealot]

Even governor buffs are more in older states

[soft gulch]

Isn't it because they won svs?

[flat zealot]

Nope

Our buff stays the same whether we win or lose

[soft gulch]

Nope. If you win SVS warfare, then 50% extra on everything

Warfare not prep

[flat zealot]

Not for us

It is always the same no matter if we win or not either

[soft gulch]

Seriously? Wow. Thats new

[flat zealot]

Been like that for us

[stable anvil]

Nope

Buffs are same in old states as they are in new states on difference is the svs win or not

Tbh the whole talk of old states have advantage over newer states is false seeing that old states yeah have more troops but compare that to the 0 discounts they received to upgrade material vs the many discounts new states have .

[gray bone]

It’s the small things that differ most like troop count

[tepid rivet]

Us old states would also love to be matched as we have been 4 years ago with like 10 states around our own but FunMinus wants to push everything on everyone

[flat zealot]

Not true again. We have players with accounts in new and old states and would show us the price differences. Plasma was way cheaper in older states

[tepid rivet]

Did you buy certificates of honour for 1$ each?

Because there was no other way to obtain them?

[digital glacier]

@flat zealot does your state have analysis centers?

[soft gulch]

As far as I remember yes

Later it started selling in pearl store and later it became part of powerup crates

[digital glacier]

So you mean to tell me.
You get all these buffs we don't 🤭

[stable anvil]

You talking about bundles. Im talking about discounts

[digital glacier]

And old states have advantage.
Yeah, we do, on the number of migo we played for survival book.
But that came about close to your states existence 🤭
Collection level. Yip. We got ya beat there too.
But let's discuss this 13% Research and construction boost.
This 5% training speed boost

Does your state have the ability for 2nd research slot?

[stable anvil]

Talk about the days when t12 had no discounts and now you have 35 percent reduction on essence and crystals.

[digital glacier]

Just curious

We didn't have that 2nd research slot perk. But some states do.

[soft gulch]

Our bracket never got that

[digital glacier]

When did EP plasma come about for old states @stable anvil p10?

What was 1051 on at that time p3 maybe 😂

Yeah let's talk about that plasma reduction that you saved @flat zealot that could be converted extra to poly faster😂

Let's talk about the different alliance research 🤭

[gray bone]

That came after everyone was done with them 🤣

[soft gulch]

I don't deny Plasma advantage newer states have after P5.

[digital glacier]

I've done the math. I know the % I know how it all works.
I know the length of time needed for your state for troop training to be equal to my state who Dont have AC.
Trust me. Your state age is old enough.

[soft gulch]

But till p5 it was pretty much buy everything

We all used to get plasma from lotteries or slot coins

Because pearl events were not so frequent

[digital glacier]

All the speedups you save with 26% reduction time. Wow. You surely can get a lot more research and construction done.
26% faster 🤭
Something that would take me 1000 days
Takes you 740 days
But yes.
Old states have advantage.

Yall been collecting plasma from intel before yall was hq 30.
We were hq 30 for years before plasma came about.

[soft gulch]

The first time ever when OF came, I bought all plasma that was there in store to go p5

[wraith vapor]

How much did u pay for plasma when you were going to P5. Just curious

[digital glacier]

You really think old states have such a superior advantage 😂
Your state gen skip.
After about 4 sets of heroes
You honestly have a superior advantage.

Also, your battle stats are actually higher in comparison to mine if our settlements were identical.
So yeah we're superior alright 😂

[gray bone]

How often did you play against younger states? How often did they win and how often did you win?

[soft gulch]

I used to get from lotteries.
For the better part of 2023 (our first year in sos) all bundles used to start with 499.

When Mk1 came, for the first time we saw 299 bundles.

[wraith vapor]

How much plasma for 499 though?

[soft gulch]

I can't recall, but it was pricey. So pricey that plasma from plasma lab for 499 felt cheaper

[digital glacier]

Newer states often win actually.

[digital glacier]

It usually is for older bundles

[wraith vapor]

We used to get 20 plasma for 499 😂 in older States until maybe 2023 when it started to get cheaper

[wraith vapor]

Younger states usually win against us as well in SVS or other events

[tepid rivet]

I think it's wrong to bash on either new or old states, when they did their trial with states 5xx - 5xxx with gen skip first time and found out that it's profitable and rolled it out to everyone to create their giant pile of 💩 matching pool, they took away all the fun from everyone

[gray bone]

Yeah I mean a lot of people stayed buying again just to catch up

[soft gulch]

Surely more than 20 for us.

I think SOS added plasma to some intels around the same time for all the states and we were benefitted more with that.

[stable anvil]

Now you look at plasma lab and its laughable. All random amounts and mostly it will be 5/20 and rarely a 50 or 100

[soft gulch]

I go for lucky. And get 60-70 at most

[wraith vapor]

Yeah it was painful to buy 20 plasma for 499 😂😂. Yeah i think most states got intel plasma around same time or same progress level

[gray bone]

It’s usually not the RL that struggle but the joiner. Seeing how most joiners in older state have max or close to max behemoth and gen skip states are far from that. That’s what makes the difference
Or a strong-ish player attaching a weaker one with just millions of troops makes a big difference

[stable anvil]

Why do you think most New states players transfer to old states. Because the new states have less competition for rankings when you ha e 1 mega whale in one bracket vs many in old states. Hence new states had more progression. Basically old states were test states to give new states discounts

[gray bone]

This game is dying that’s why they don’t have as many players that are willing to pay in newest states anymore hence they transfer to older ones for competition

[wraith vapor]

Not really, if joiners are spenders that's different if they are free to play, i have people in my alliance who are daily regular players and play most events. Their behemoth is not maxed yet (level 43). Most are around abbadon 1/2, progress 33/38.

[stable anvil]

Now IMAGINE when Behemoth was the beast of the march. The higher the behemoth the better. Now adays you see New states with weaker overall behemoth but higher stats and collection due to the red carpet JG/MINING/ ALL EVENTS. AND OLD STATES get smacked by these types of players

[wraith vapor]

Happened to me yesterday and today 🤣🤣🤣. Behemoth 44, trex 43 but all the new crap and companions higher. It's painful to watch and play

[stable anvil]

Its all down to trial and error. And Newer states can see content creater vids and plan ahead.

[inland citrus]

How do I get a link to my state dc?

[stable anvil]

Thats why i said we had to use crap ton of poly on useless p10 research for 20 percent atk and def overall. And new states can skip all the wasted plasma and get that from t.a or gem crystal

[wraith vapor]

Ask someone to send it to you? 😅

[gray bone]

What states are you in? 👀

[wraith vapor]

Yeah so true, it costed a house back then and now it's useless

[inland citrus]

1385

[wraith vapor]

Started in 265, now in 252

[soft gulch]

Mk1 and mk2 troops stats are laughable.
If you have to make a choice to raise behemoths, it would be MK3 first then any other

[digital glacier]

Before gen skip became a thing. We won about 70% rr matches.
Since then it's about 30%

[gray bone]

Same for us tbh 🤣

[wraith vapor]

Exactly, but that's new addition, we had to start from what we have and it took so much time to get it high up and not it doesn't make any difference if your eagle and stupid yeti is weak

[wraith vapor]

We have lost last two RR including today, it was laughable. 70k vs 600k

[soft gulch]

I think old states suffer from spend weariness a lot more

[gray bone]

Haven’t had a fair RR ever since gen skip… either you are completely overrun or dominate yourself
No in between

[wraith vapor]

I could have bought a house with a bloody garden 😂😂😂😂

[tepid rivet]

Oh the memories

[digital glacier]

I've had 3 maybe 4 💯 % absolute competitive fights since gen skip existed.

[tepid rivet]

12h construction speed was reward for being 1st also

[gray bone]

Who is Jarrett

[digital glacier]

I lost 1 from game lag.
Lost 1 cause event stopped at 37 seconds, even my teammate were like wtf just happened 🤷
Won the other 2.

[tepid rivet]

Old gen4 hero, before they took him away. And brought him back. And took him away again?

Something like that

[digital glacier]

Crap hero.
Was a swappable.
Something they took away 2 years after because sos 2 years behind on some feedback. They took that whole feature away.
He was Tyler after swap.

They took swappable away because of ernie. But when they did. It was absolutely no issue then. 😂

[digital glacier]

They brought him back but with different skills.
So it was a modified clone Jarrett.
Idiots.

[tepid rivet]

And then they took Ernie away for Brooke

[soft gulch]

So 1000-1056 brackets (there were 2 in between) had crazy Korean whales, including Korean tiger.

He stopped playing but his alliance was all whales.

If you meet them in RR, they will 300% beat you

[digital glacier]

I won't fight them. 🤭

Not unless they break down into a team of 3 or so 😂

[tepid rivet]

They brought back swappable in some way, they made OP reso heroes 😂

[digital glacier]

Eh
At least now you don't have to pay specific hero frags to change the hero 😂
Another thing new states know nothing about.

[tepid rivet]

Oh geez I forgot about that 😂

[digital glacier]

Old state ain't all glits and glamor everybody thinks 😂

[soft gulch]

There is another milestone event in the game. Release of the game in Japan. I don't know the precise timeline for that, but it was much after launch.

They added nanami only for Japan and then brought her to global.

I believe japanese players got in the game when 500 states were already in.

[tepid rivet]

One of the worst encounters was gen13 and no points for capsules and potions a whole MIGO season, that was just bs

But yeah, some other things have been just trial and error with the old generation states

[soft gulch]

Now new states genskip after g12

[digital glacier]

I skip g13 😂

My still generals
But not g1
But not g13 either 🤭

[gray bone]

They should just skip with new potions that would make it actually fair

[digital glacier]

No 🙄

[gray bone]

How come?

[digital glacier]

Everyone needs comp not just skippers

[gray bone]

That’s why I said have gen skip with new potions for heroes. No advantage there for anyone

[digital glacier]

Doesn't fix anything.

Non gen skip still have the older heroes you skipped 🤭

[gray bone]

It fixes the heroes 🤔

[digital glacier]

^ see above

Bro, I lack 8400 potions for my current heroes.
Im even using g24 tokens from treasure digs for potions at this point 😂

Value vouchers. All potions, no crates

Weekly deals, bought out first thing when shop resets 😂

Honor shop, same thing

[gray bone]

It would mean that older states could not get newest hero’s upgraded as fast and they do make a big difference as they actually power them up too much

[soft gulch]

Migo after Genskip is very painful. Even if you are prepared with 10000 epic search maps.

If you are RL, you need 6 heroes. And you cannot RED any of them until towards end of migo

[digital glacier]

You gen skip from G12 to g25
Non gen skip still have g24
All now require new potion to upgrade g25.

Gen skip still temporarily disadvantaged
Honestly that feedback. Makes it worse for gen skippers

Gen skip = short term suffering with long term advantage
Some disbelievers have seen what I have been saying for a long time.

[gray bone]

Short term means like a year tho 🤣

[digital glacier]

If you smart. Starting the 7th month you'll be on par with good heroes for Behemoth marches. By the time you unlock 3rd Behemoth, you'll have 3 marches ready to go.

[gray bone]

So it’s 7 months you need to catch up… not really short term

[digital glacier]

Just remember too.
Full active alliances in gen skip are more likely to match with gen skip states in rr koh etc for quite some time.

[gray bone]

Not true… sadly

[digital glacier]

And it's like 12-18 months to G12 nowadays🤷

[digital glacier]

Whales and idiots can effect this

[gray bone]

It’s the matchmaking that got worse…

[digital glacier]

Scores don't account for non limitless heroes. Only limitless.
If your alliance ignores g13 when you skip from 12 to 25.
Well, you're scores lower. So you'd only match with weaker non gen skip players.

If your alliance upgrades outdated heroes, that's bumps yalls scores.

[tepid rivet]

And their version of Lucky

[gray bone]

Nope no one did that. No potion to upgrade weak heroes 🤣
But still getting matched against 149 and 2XX all the time for RR

[digital glacier]

Well, for L1 that competes in the rr and koh. Cause you're also getting inserted into the big pond of koh tiered bracket system and rr system. But L2 isn't apart of that tiered bracket system.
So, in terms of L1. Yeah, you'll face off anyone who is in your tier, could be whales in old states, could be whales in less gen skip states. All depends on that bracket system.

But, you're scores are way less, so you'll be matched with the weaker of them typically. Sometimes that can't happen based on who is in the bracket

[gray bone]

So I have a mini in 1057 that was matched against 149 today in L2….
100% not upgraded any gen between 13-22
Some may have some 23 can’t be sure of that

Would love if it was actually the case like you describe it but reality is different

It was only 8 players on both sides ans while their weakest was 1 p14 we had 4 p11 😅

Our strongest wasn’t able to compete at all either

[digital glacier]

1 weak f2p vs 1 strong gen skip.
Can match because their scores are similar.
Score. Not strength. 2 different things.

[gray bone]

But gen skip can’t beat weak f2p if they are from older states then

Unless they are spenders that is

[digital glacier]

Weak f2p can kill a strong gen skip because they don't have the heroes or tempests. But that all depends on registering 1 or registering 30.
See, old states typically aren't gonna have 30 weak players. And gen skip aren't typically gonna have 30 strong players. 😂

You register less. You run more risk. Hence why I said at the start about how many registrants.

[gray bone]

But that is the problem with gen skip and old states/ new states
Can’t compare them directly but that’s what gen skip does and that’s why people complain it’s not fair for gen skip people

[digital glacier]

But. After 3 months when that gen skip whale has heroes. That f2p don't stand a chance.
That f2p upgrades their best 2 marches of heroes a couple levels. But the whale focuses on 3 heroes. Not 6.

Yet. They could match again.

And gen skip whale wins.

[gray bone]

Whale is different to normal spenders though
Whale can catch up fast

[digital glacier]

🤦

Lemme rephrase.
You don't have to be a whale.
You just have to not be a complete idiot small spender.
It don't cost much to get 3 heroes to a respectable level.

[gray bone]

Let me tell you from experience. You don’t manage to get them up in 3 month after gen skip even prepared with hero search and so on

But even if you did it’s 3 months of suffering and losing everything while you try your best and spend money on it

[cursive vessel]

By the end of first migo, so 3 months, you should have 1 finished march (more or less) and on your way to having part of a 2nd march

And yes, i was a gen skipper

[gray bone]

So after 5 months you’re at 2 marches and after 7 that’s 3 but that’s not short term that’s the issue

[digital glacier]

You know you gen skip, if you transfer state, your cost is several cheaper right?

After 1 year of being gen skip, your score is lower than your actual strength and non gen skip is higher than their actual strength

So you have advantage. And you become the bully.

You realize. This. Right?

[digital glacier]

When did you gen skip?

[cursive vessel]

A while ago now (think we got 13 - 19) and I was not remotely prepared for it

[digital glacier]

And since like G 22. How have your rr matches been?

So like past 6 months or so.

[tepid rivet]

I haven't met Lana in RR yet But neither Mufasa

[cursive vessel]

I've moved states since then, I'm in an older state now.
The thing I notice the most is that I have less troops though.
Some people from newer states can kick my butt 🤣

[digital glacier]

😂

Register just 2 people 😂

What state and alliance you in?

I would say you could hit my truck.
But crybabies got devs to change that feature 😒

[tepid rivet]

I have no desire hitting your truck, I want a selfie on the field hmkay

Roasting marshmallows over my HQ

And there would come in handy a goat march skin, pouring goat milk over me to extinguish the fire but Liannin unfortunately never got her dev chat to propose that

[digital glacier]

That would be a great "attack" skin effect. Never thought of that

[digital glacier]

Not sure that would happen.
But we could sit around someone else hq on fire together 🤣

You would only maybe burn from my sheer relentless hits of 19m troops 🤣

Been really considering since last Dino to upgrade. But I ranked 72.
But friend did 3× my damage who is a little stronger than me. But they're p14

[tepid rivet]

[Insert Darth Kermit Do it gif here]

[wet tusk]

I will bring the hot chocolate and some cookies

[odd umbra]

Is it just my eyes or didn't match prices with the wheel?

[stable anvil]

Yeah devs dont know how to count

Lvl 1 is actually 0, lvl 2 is actually lvl 1, so on and so forth

[thorny plume]

Ey any chance we can refine theese ultea rare statues into something soon ?

Or just stash things awaym backpack is too messy

[stable cosmos]

Oh its worse than the screenshot i found last night

I don't want to keep ANY of that in the daily login. Its all useless

The ticked one is a combat manual.

5 minutes healing
5 minutes construction
1 minute general
1 potion (doubtful)
1 piece of pet food (doubtful but technically useless so should be fine...)
5 plane xp
Either a recon jammer or a 2 hour bubble for the final.

Those are all basically useless but not as they add up. Unlike the screenshot which is 100% useless unless you want rss

[digital glacier]

You know what I love.
There's a limit to the number of gems for troop holdings you can have.
You Unlock the feature at p8.
You can buy the gem crates in vip store prior to that.
Eventually. You cant open the crate because there isn't enough "storage space sos allows you to have"
When you get p8 troop buildings, what level gem can you put in your troop buildings? Oh, 3?4?5? 🤣 Sos should let us be able to access features

Survivor fair.
Has pets for greeters.
There is no hq limit to participate in survivor fair (hq 6 I guess to get events billboard to appear) but can be done other methods at lower levels 🤣
But.
You have to be hq 16 to open a pet certificate.
Quite dumb tbh.
HQ 16 should be requirement to place on a hero not to find a pet.

Plasma crates from plasma lab, require hq 30 to open.
But you unlock tanks that require plasma usage way before that.
Crates that give t12 crystals or plasma however, can be opened as low as (what I've seen or know personally) hq 6 🤣
GETS plasma from 1 crate, but not the other. What a joke

I'm allowed to transfer to a completely different state before I'm able to be allowed to play certain events because of the hq level restriction 🤣

The tempest arms building.
That's not a requirement to make, craft, trade, ascend tempests arms.

Its actually the prerequisite for equipping tempest arms on heroes 🤣

I love how every bundle In the game seems to reset back to the original.
EXCEPT 1
getting a ton of troops put into enlistment and getting that "free" bundle offer.
Heaven forbid if you happened to at some point or another, screwed up and bought the next pack. You'll never see that free offer again 😭

It's amazing how after 1 year of not being able to aquire in any way shape or form (for my state) the original ascension piece, yet it's still on display with a whopping count of 0 in the screen for ascending items. 🤣 Would be a lot more convenient if they shown how many I actually own for ones I own. I don't own the green Reforge, don't show that icon. I don't own original orange light sabers, don't show that icon. But please, I own 2 or the new ascension pieces, please show that icon with 2 next to it

I absolutely love, how there's bugs that negatively effect players with video proof that have been submitted since day of some events, and these events have gone on for at least 6 months, and yet, almost none of them have been fixed. But every bug or report of something that I seen that is helpful to a player is fixed faster than they could close their own front door 🤣

It's absolutely impressive players spend as much as they have for a video game who has been so horrible to them. Yes, they're strong, yes they do get some cool gifts for how much they spend. But honestly, it could be sooooo much better. I've seen whales cry their hearts out for those stupid milestone limits in events. Which is 10000000% understandable. There shouldn't be one. Yet, many still go for it. And not just treating them better, but everyone there's so many more mid spenders who give a constant flow of revenue too. Not just for them but for us as well who play the game and spend tiny amount or not at all.

It's depressing at times the fact I still play this game after more than 2100 consecutive days with as many times as I have been screwed over by sos.

[stable cosmos]

You're ahead of me by 300. Making leaving plans

[digital glacier]

Dude. I took a year break practically and played pogo with a coworker who talked about it a lot 🙈 and I play some pubg. Only log in to train troops. Do map searches. Maybe hit am intel or 2 🤣

But I kept my login streak 🤤

At a moment. I thought to come back, use all my stuff. And burn and quit. But I was having some fun. There was actually a lot less bugs and bs in some events back then 🤣 but now. It's getting bad again. I have so much and know so much and spent a lot (in my sense of income) and time.

[stable cosmos]

Sunk cost is a thing in any game like this. I haven't sunk money though so quitting is the people part.

[soft gulch]

A lot of people (including myself) have been realising this off late that how the hidden nerf affects when you stop spending

#2 ac of the state stopped spending 4 months ago, there has been only hero updates + whatever one gets f2pish way. They are super weak now.

4th strongest stopped at beginning of this MIGO, by the end of the last one he had already overtaken earlier nb2 player.
This also has become weak in such a short time that I could kill 125k of his troops, earlier it used to be <25k.

if I had stayed in for rest of the migo, I would've killed it, despite it has 1600 morale and lot of dmg from morale.

[soft gulch]

---

Now funny part is aside p18, there has been no real upgrades done from my side. All arr free stuff from JG and last tycoon event

A pet skill upgrade here and there, few bonus statues, 1 or 2 monumental statues, 1-2 amps from HQ skins.

So bottom line is as soon as you stop spending, they fiddle with weights

And make you nerfed

[soft gulch]

They are powerful until they are spending

[digital glacier]

A lot of spenders don't comprehend core dynamics. More often they're winning by brute force.
Brute force backed by spending power.
Take away that spending power.
In time, they lose that brute force power and strength.
They'll lose that strength faster than they lose that power.
Power and strength are 2 different things.
They don't know how to compensate for this strength loss. Because they're prone to winning by brute force spending habits.

And it's not about if they stopped spending or not in the sense of the "nerf"
Look what I replied to.
I did find that screenshot and post it but it was shortly thereafter taken down. Not by me. So ya know. Someone is doing sos dirty work trying to hide lawsuit information.

If that file exists.
Then what's it linked to?
Huh.
% drop odds so they buy bundles
And f2p account won't spend so theirs is higher than advertised odds.

Anyhow, enough of that. I got jg to claim cause of poor suggested solution feedback asking specifically for 6hrs instead of removing it

Good I love how the kitty jam don't have a timer on it.

[soft gulch]

Correct.
And they often overspend.

• making every hero red, not needed
• making every reso 7, not needed, some of resos like turtles have negative primary reso skill.
• completing new things as soon as it drops, ppl wasted a lot of money on mecha, and then they reduced G2 requirement to purple.
• Spending relentless on TAs, events, trading, reforges
• Gene skills which are on leaderboards or highly priced in bullets, fountain ...

[woven spire]

Depends your power level if its "needed"

If we talk about maxed maxed, they do need all gold gene with best skills

TAS they need mainly the skills out events

New things well, if you dont want to lose you have too

Lvl 7 is a must if its for one of the 3 matches. But they have spec ops

And heroes also have to be red

All small difference count

If we talk about a medium spender, ye thats a waste of money

Most of it

[soft gulch]

Doing it over and over is where problem is

[woven spire]

What you mean?

[soft gulch]

Like you get 3 SpecOps, a new Collab shows up and you must spec op it again.

Or you have ultra-rares for all heroes on 2 marches, new TA gen opens up, you restart collecting all 6.

[woven spire]

I think they do not have much choice on that

Talking about the super maxed

[soft gulch]

and that gives cue to Devs to nerf their existings, rather than making new thing highly op

[woven spire]

Both have same result anyway

[soft gulch]

Same result but different impact.
When I lost to someone's plasma surge, I dreamed about it for...days. didn't even think that it could be possible that my existing thing is nerfed

I just thought plasma surge is op and I need to get one....orange one

[tropic galleon]

We need a quick fill option here..
It is so difficult to fill 700 talent points one by one..
Actually I will regret to reset talents here

[soft gulch]

There should be an option to reset a book, one book only not the whole shelf

[tropic galleon]

Yes ,this is good idea too

[bright sedge]

You can quick assign an entire book. There is a button at the top right of each book

[tropic galleon]

Omg,thanks

[bright sedge]

It fills the book automatically, so if you don't want the complete book, you'll need to do it manually 🤗

[bright sedge]

I suggest you submit a feedback about it, more players might feel the same way about it.

[woven spire]

Sure, impact for the lower spenders

true

Plasma surge is OP yes

Wonder if it stacks

Since most people that spend big get their second or evne 3

[tropic galleon]

But I am sure that we don't have quick refine option here,lol

[crude stratus]

Click bulk refine

[tropic galleon]

Damn,I don't know anything about game
Thank you so much

[soft gulch]

Don't do bulk refine

Do a bulk refine till level 2

Level 3 onwards, you should be picking the unit you want to be leader

The UX is so bad that let's say you have 3 health unit at Level 3, it can pick the weakest of them as leader.

[stable cosmos]

The engine ui is horrible. Its almost impossible to know what any one part does in the merge and swapping them about is garbage.

Locking them is also not helpful in this process

[soft gulch]

It's Monday and sos withdrawal is creeping in....ugh

I think of 200 dices I left there and few thousand diamonds

[torn rain]

what about gen. 25 ? 👀 ...... when the newer States be merge with all the others States? Anyone knows something about it? 🙈

[halcyon berry]

after gen 12

if you would get gen 13 you get pushed to the newest geb possible

and i would start hoard because new gen slaughter gen 12 and lower

[soft gulch]

Gen-skips are painful but they aren't that bad, if you stay in your own bracket

If your bracket is also enlarged at the same time then it's a big problem

Last MIGO was when we had genskip, all our SVS, RR were within the same bracket.

Only showdown was with older states and we won most of the time

[swift sleet]

That's deliberate. It's so scamplus can charge you 1000s for something then nerf it without you realising. No one knows what the numbers or skills actually mean. What's shown to you aren't the real maths behind a mechanic.
Only way to beat others is to spend a lot 🤑

Tried looking for an sos discord emoji to do with money. They've removed them all, you even have all the sharks but the money shark

Pathetic company 🤣

[muted terrace]

[swift sleet]

Ironic only nitro users can use it. More 🤑

[muted terrace]

mhm, that is true.

[swift sleet]

Oh well, it could have been something good, if they made the game more accessible to the majority. But greedplus does greedy things

P.S. Also true

[ruby veldt]

could someone assist me in the feedback format?

[jolly harness]

Observation:
 (Event/feature name along with your observation regarding said event/feature)

Consequences:
(describe how is it affecting game play)

Suggested Solution:
(proposed solution to overcome consequences)

[limber sparrow]

To add to dwight, if youd like i could write one on ur behalf

[ruby veldt]

sure dm me thanks so much.

[fleet idol]

Can we get a feeback for Purrfect Jam. Either up the limit to more then 5 claims or give us the option to drop them I mean so many are going to waste that people cant claim. Every other event where we get an egg we have the option on when dropping it

[limber sparrow]

Hello tamms, ill write it here and you can let me know what to add or remove

Observation:in the purrfect jam event, the limit of claiming the “egg” reward not being high enough and not having an option when to send the eggs.

Consequences:many eggs are going to waste due to not having an option on when we want to send the eggs.

Solution:add an option where we can send the eggs whenever we want, and up the limit of how many players can claim the egg

[stable cosmos]

Spell and grammar check that lot...

[limber sparrow]

Woops my grammars never been good

[digital glacier]

Gen skip states should be segregated for at least 1 migo cycle better for 2. Then there won't be bychyn from them. Well, it'll reduce a metric f-ton. There's always gon a be that one or some 🤣

[stable anvil]

The one who says we dont have that many new potions to build 9 heroes to fight old states

[digital glacier]

Yup 🤣
They don't get we need those potions to fight so there ain't much saved for new heroes 🤣 some yes. But after this long time especially since hero challenges gone, most people don't even bother buying crates from vouchers. They spend it all for potions and we still lack potions

[digital glacier]

Oh ^ there really ain't extra now since idiots didn't realize they had it good with treasure digs 🤭 idiots negatively hurt everyone including their self. 🤦

[stable anvil]

I know i blabbed about premium chips bot giving frags, but then you had people talking about why they only got 1 frag from 5 regular chips. Like bro do you even read the probability to get them and you telling deva to fix up a bug. People smh.

[thorny plume]

Just a quick easy question, assuming I have tickets. Can I move back and forth in same transfer event :)?

[stable cosmos]

Iirc no

[lost jungle]

as cyan said , you can only transfer once once every transfer event because there is a cooldown

[stable anvil]

90 day cooldown

[thorny plume]

Ah thats whack, thanks 🙂

[digital glacier]

I mean, it's good to eliminate the potential for turn and burn 🤣
but bad if there happens to be an issue with you and your friend trying to go to the same state and some don't get in.
So now you need to decide where to go or what to do.
Oh wait.
Your fkd for 90 days 🤣 sorry rejected dude.
Previously could have been due to leading state status changing.

Governors can approve or deny applicants correct?

And transfer happens after svs correct?

So, what happens to transfers wanting to get in for a state who lost prep and war! There's No governor 🤷!
So are all applicants auto approved or auto denied!?!

[pliant shore]

You can only transfer twice if you transfer in your bracket then you do cross gen te

It use to be a thing not sure if it still is

[digital glacier]

We can't backtrack gen tho.

Only jump ahead

If i could jump to 1200 or something and sos disable my heroes and stuff until they're unlocked for the state.
And i kept the OG G4 heroes.
I totally would 😂
I'd love it more if the demo my hq and refund me materials and speedups.
Lemme redo a few things under the new system upgrade requirements.

[pliant shore]

If you're in 1135 (next bracket for gen dump) let's say you can transfer in your bracket then do cross gen to state 1-1128 or however far it goes

Use to be possible before

[digital glacier]

He is old. I'm ancient.

[lost jungle]

1135 is already in big bracket

[pliant shore]

Ah whatever is next to join not sure

[soft gulch]

Gen-backtrack seems awesome.

RED your lead march, go down a MIGO, dominate from day-1

[soft gulch]

They are. Sorta.

First migo after genskip they play SVS/RR with old bracket, Showdown and Nexus with mixed.
Event bracket is dynamic, they give small bracket for 777 (so you get lesser coins) and then full bracket for leaderboard events, so you get slammed.

There was one time 777 bracket was made huge, like almost 1057-1125 were in it.
It rained free coins.

Because the bracket was big, there were more jackpot opportunities. I hit jackpot twice.

[soft gulch]

Building 2nd March proven to be pita after gen-skin.

They could've at least given chance to recycle old blue options, to new.

[stable anvil]

Just a thought on this. During operation resurgence, first stage, you can donate bios to get crates and inside those crates are speedups, etc but one thing they give is stamina packs. So idk what the purpose of this feedback is for if stamina is stamina still
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

So that feedback is not properly written because its all over the place. For one if the point of players wishing to use bios to get stamina then they can still do that by wasting stamina from the event being mentioned aka Nexus and when they go and click stam it gives the options or whatever which starts with packs first and then bios. But if players want stamina packs for the long run then do what i mentioned above and spend bios on operation resurgence

[wide wraith]

its actually confusing after all 200 is not the max for stamina, its just the max shown. Often before Nexus, I top up using bios to 600

[wide wraith]

the purpose is to fill up the top 10 with useless feedback, knowing that most dont read fully and just see the words more stamina needed and vote for it, its a plant to screw the system

[soft gulch]

I think they are talking about this.
But I don't understand what's the hiccup

It uses stam packs and then bios

[vestal epoch]

Where can I find copper ore

[wide wraith]

ut this is what i mean, 200 is not the actual max

[vestal epoch]

ShadowLord... where can I find copper ore?

[wide wraith]

copper ore? for what

[vestal epoch]

I need copper bars to make another metal bar

[wide wraith]

trying to remember where you need anything to make metal bars

[stable cosmos]

Not sure thats ever been part of this game

[vestal epoch]

Steek bars

Steel bars

[wide wraith]

me neither unless they mean the metal you have to gather

[soft gulch]

Show a screenshot. There is everything in the game, from Cyanide capsules to pet v1agra

[stable cosmos]

Unless it was in one of the really early anniversary events. Name the event.

[vestal epoch]

My bad wrong game.

[soft gulch]

[stable cosmos]

Figured

[wide wraith]

its 7am here, confusion is easy this early

[soft gulch]

Yeah you can go over the limit. It's just stupid bar tbh

[wide wraith]

what they should do it allow stamina to increase past the 200 like the do with small squad stamina (bread)

[soft gulch]

Yeah totally.
Thing is they still sell the stam bundles. Lmao

[stable anvil]

With prices from 5 years ago laugh 😂

Just like plasma lab is not updated and is more expensive than current bundles for plasma.

[soft gulch]

I bought their hq stage vs bios offer for 20$

It's been 2.5yrs, it's still not refreshed.

[buoyant veldt]

Those are (still) not upgradeable.

[cursive vessel]

They will be at some point, I'm sure

[muted terrace]

[buoyant veldt]

Your words in gods ear, BUT: the bliss ballon sentinel isnt that young anymore, sooo

[cursive vessel]

I know

It's been around a while

Make a feedback

[buoyant veldt]

😂

[soft gulch]

Shes right, many premium sentinels became upgradable, at a later date......sometimes when they became part of a collection

[stable cosmos]

Pretty much always. Can make extra cash off them when in a collection. Solo upgrades don't have the same benefit

[soft gulch]

Another aspect is....

Sentinel upgrades don't have HFDR advantage. After 30% is hit

But as a standalone item, 6% troop leth and health is juicy

[woven spire]

Can they fix this pc client

Minimizes when open 1 account.

Bugs out when you close one (you cant open it or move account for a while)

When closing cliënts, there is a chance the closing client just freeze and does not react

[halcyon berry]

do it like the old states have it. every time you hit this green sandclock you get a chest with 8 stamina packs inside so when no stamina draining events happen you can safe cjests with the stamina

[sage girder]

Hey ah, can you report this in game please and DM me later?

[soft gulch]

Report sharing should be super easy. You should be able to share ALL reports, PVE, PVP, Showdown, Arenas.... EVERYWHERE, alliance, state, migo, raid chats, dm....

[stable anvil]

Still waiting for devs to stop sending massacre reports and give us the actual report calculation as to how it happened

1 sec i was doing damage to a person and didn't see any rein and the dude ported or whatever during rr and then suddenly massacre which made no sense and no talent changes or whatever

[soft gulch]

So I think initial motive to give massacre report was to stop players from knowing all enemy stats by sending 1 soldier march.

Now it doesn't make any sense, cuz even a full march can get massacred.

May be it's not possible to give report when PvP battle is done in zero turns.

[stable anvil]

Yeah but considering it makes no difference if players got stats from 1 troop march wont give them all of it but still..with my case i was doing damage then suddenly massacre. Regardless it would make sense to have that available because i know we have mails that show failed atk but yield great damage, or visa versa with winning atk and terrible damage.

[soft gulch]

We wouldn't know if he revived troops with speedups.

Assuming he had too many wounded and you were winning and then he revived and that threshold hit where you won't win and get massacred.

Also, I feel RR and Azur has that threshold set different than normal PvP.

[elder mirage]

You both brought great ideas to improve analysing battles in easy ways.
You can write a feedbacks about it.

Personally i would happy to see massacre reports as it happened to me last RR

[stable anvil]

Nexus has sloppy bug

If you need tonport instead it kicks you out of game

When a player gets burned instead of them being able to port the game kicks them if they try

[thorny plume]

How to refine ? I dont need two

Cant upgrade

[thorny plume]

Oh wait theres even ANOTHER

Is this a bug ? They rewarding us with 3 of the same sentinel that cant be upgraded (?)

Should be able atleast gift it to friends or something

[jolly harness]

Most likely will be upgradable soonish like they done before

Pieces that aren't a set making into a smaller set and make it upgradable

[thorny plume]

Really? I have some others I have two of aswell that I cant upgrade but iirc ive been playing for 6 years so backpack is a bit of a mess

Ill look into that

Not gonna risk it tough, il stop at 800 🙂

[cursive vessel]

The balloon one isn't upgradeable either but they usually change them to upgradeable at some point

[thorny plume]

Yea that one it was

Got a few. They should let us reprocess stuff that we cant upgrade any further. Not sure why they cant just fix that. Its not like that will actually cost them any money

And we could clean backpacks. Having 10 20 ultra rares and 50 statue things we could just get rid of doesnt do more then clutter the backpack

[soft gulch]

If feedback was fixing things, we could do that all day.

Let's start with feedback of minimizing feedbacks

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

So old codes work again after sometime

New codes are sorta laugh in your face

[soft gulch]

More on this.

Nexus has very different soldier death/wounded on HQ attack than PVP.

It has been tweaked.
Earlier you know that you have won but it used to show defeat.

[zealous crystal]

in this crazy game, you never know!

[thorny plume]

Lol i just know i wont be using another 400 dices to get to number 3

[zealous crystal]

lmao... i am not doing that to get to number 1 !

[digital glacier]

I love sos nexus.
Absolutely no bugs, no headaches, no trouble with anything. It's absolutely a beautiful masterpiece of fine code and thoughtful consideration to the players of this community. I must sincerely thank sos for creating such a magnanimous feature

My train I paid tickets for to get good carts, will fail today, unless I leave nexus 9 minutes after starts, then wait 5 minutes to reenter (Or wait until train launches to enter) then play until the stage is over 😒

[jolly harness]

Or the fact you have to enter / leave nexus to claim the purrfect jam " eggs "

Depending when the person is when they obtain that gift

[digital glacier]

You dont have to

[buoyant veldt]

Not? When the givers were in Nexus, i was automatically directed there and had to leave again after .

[jolly harness]

I get " you have marches dispatched in the wilderness "

Stupid autogathering

[digital glacier]

You enter it and there's some funny issues with the nexus screen but you don't exit to claim

[jolly harness]

Yeah im never in nexus 🤣

My issue is it forces me to into nexus

[digital glacier]

Same as if you click coordinates on reports, markers, etc.

[weary roost]

Hello everyone

It's a pleasure to meet you all

[tepid rivet]

Had the same, thought I was going crazy cause I was sure I left Nexus

[wet tusk]

I thought it was only me

[stable anvil]

This is very nice. Im glad i will be able to collect rewards

[stable cosmos]

Thats for the updated cooking event which is astoundingly excretory, even for fp. Not gonna try. It can just get recycled

[stable anvil]

This is the other daily one

I already collected the food junk one

This one is the one you shared earlier that gives bios and ither outdated junk

[stable anvil]

This one here

[stable cosmos]

Oh that. That normally loads ok for me

[stable anvil]

But now they removed it completely. I reloaded game and now it a no show

[soft gulch]

Looks like you are still on old ui

[stable anvil]

Yeah devs did some new patch update or something around the time of Nexus which is why Nexus sucks balls.

Constantly kicked out of game is not looking good

[stable cosmos]

I am. The new UI hurts too much. Its also slower.

[soft gulch]

Yeah, a lot of ppl who played with the old UI for a longer period, stuck to that for these very reasons.

[digital glacier]

I haven't even looked at the cooking thing.
Just scrolled past it in events 🤣.
Is it the old one or the crappier new cooking version

[muted terrace]

The new version where you have to spend to even have a chance to progress half an inch

[digital glacier]

🤣

[muted terrace]

Last time it was accompanied by JG, it was somewhat bare able

[soft gulch]

Which cooking is this

Please share a screen, I am clouded

[wet tusk]

The one with burger research

[jolly harness]

Anniversary preview event

[soft gulch]

Oh that. No, that was horrible

My goodness

Thats the most horrible event I have seen

[digital glacier]

Im kind of curious. If I will actually be able to afford anything in the store without the. I don't wanna say it cause they might give it to us and it's so bad that I don't wanna waste it on this. Rather have fountain of dreams, dice, fair, etc in the event instead 😅🤣

[muted terrace]

they will give it to us.

[digital glacier]

I will skip it 🤣

[topaz spindle]

So, I can leave the alliance I was in, come back, and get the alliance ranking rewards, but leaving and rejoining an alliance wipes your solo rank in alliance horde. How does that make any sense?

[feral mango]

People still play horde?

[wide wraith]

its the new 💩

[wide wraith]

only for the farms we have

[soft gulch]

It's the time you don't play.
Cuz disco red light will blind you.

[feral mango]

We run ours now at 7utc while we r all sleeping. Only the insomniacs have to suffer. As a rally lead, I hardly notice the disco lights anymore

[soft gulch]

Most of the pve events don't scale their difficulty with state age (player power).

It makes them even more boring

[soft gulch]

Good choice

[muted terrace]

You get disco lights?

[soft gulch]

I think trap evolved a bit, but from a long time, for me it has been 1 rally = maximum reward, so it became a chore too

[soft gulch]

Strobic red light

[stable anvil]

Do you remember the temp improved horde? Instead of 45 mins it was like 20 mins and you later had to hit the side boss 5 times and then collect 6 crates.

I cant remember the rewards much but their was plasma, speedups and so other junk

6 crates you can send 6 marches instead of one at a time. No improvement later on by devs for other crates

[wide wraith]

the mushroom horde 25 rounds in 30 mins and the rewards were pretty good

[stable anvil]

Yeah those hordes were running

[soft gulch]

It was 1 specific migo.
There will be a boss spawning and you get 15 gold hero frags for killing him

[stable anvil]

For what reason devs didn't want to keep it is beyond me. Also the hits were stronger too

[wide wraith]

p7s would burn at level 11

[stable anvil]

Yup i remember that, needed rein just to survive

Forget sending rein to get points you needed those heroes to survive yourself

[soft gulch]

Another one was a migo when advance levels of PZ were available

[feral mango]

We ran that fungal horde on max and everyone burned except me. It was hilarious

[soft gulch]

So Fungal was first ever MIGO, or second. That time production quality was very high

Even the migo skin, that cherry blossom tree of life... So gorgeous

[feral mango]

Fond memories of when the devs cared

[soft gulch]

Right now migo skin represent, the most lousy work that can be put together.

There will be an animal skull doing some weird sninations.

[muted terrace]

Right, they merge into environment

[buoyant veldt]

M.I.G.O. was the first „Migo“ . Fungal was later

Thats why people call „World events“ —> Migo

It was the first World Event

[soft gulch]

Some mfs used to send marches from the hive to the capital.... 15-20 mins of disco light for garrison lead

Usually they will be sone lousy farms... I used to burn them

[feral mango]

Yeah. We would set them on fire too

[wide wraith]

silent hill?? this new collab looks like its just another money making scam

[stable anvil]

Just a Halloween theme im guessing

Collabs dont have the same effect they had like Daryl. Joker was a bit weird and broken but then the got it back right on RE heroes wnd from there it went downhill

[wide wraith]

some dumb 💩 with a walking pyramid headed junk

[buoyant veldt]

Its a collab tho. Bad or not 😂

[wide wraith]

wasnt silent hill an ancient film with bruce willis one he said was the biggest mistake of his career

[buoyant veldt]

Its already been announced officially

[soft gulch]

Never mind, I wrote something stupid

[buoyant veldt]

😂😂😂😂😂

Well….

Try again

[soft gulch]

Silent Hill is nice horror series of games, good job collabing

[cursive vessel]

They'll ruin it

Not that I even know what silent hill is 😂

[buoyant veldt]

I made some research last night. Gettin into the plot ya know

[soft gulch]

Except Turtles, all collabs have been good. For FP, moneywise

Joker, WD, RE, PR, TR, Hitman, T800

[cursive vessel]

They might make money but doesn't mean they're good...

[soft gulch]

gameplay wise?

Well, I enjoyed behemoth challenges reskin for both PR and TR

Hitman was sad
Terminator also sad (the truck chase)

Joker, WD I haven't played.

They have only few things which they reskin

• behemoth challenges
• subway surfers chase
• Horde running to your fence
• trap with villain

[cursive vessel]

Don't mind me, I'm poorly and on strike
So I'm just here to be annoying
But, they're still not good, gameplay wise in my opinion. Yes, f2p friendly is nice though, when it is

[soft gulch]

Never apologize for being lil bishy, especially when it's SOS. 😄

What strike you are on?

[jolly harness]

Farmers strike

[cursive vessel]

On an unhelpful strike. Just here to be annoying and not offer help (it came up on sos chat, called it a strike) 😂
Although not really logged in today either. Collected jg a couple of times, not even done intel yet

[cursive vessel]

Could do that too i suppose

[soft gulch]

If I could play game like you do
I would be still playing it 😄

The burnout happens when you over-engage, over-spend, as if your lifes dependent on it

[cursive vessel]

My head hurts and the game doesnt help it much
So, its more necessity than anything

[soft gulch]

The melancholic music, doesn't help?

That tune... Uff

It's probably one of the best game music, can't believe FP could

[wide wraith]

just watched the trailer to the Silent hill film as i had only heard of it it passing, looks 💩 to be honest

[soft gulch]

Oh no, they won't let me link spotify

[cursive vessel]

The brightness and everything about it to be fair. A few days doing not a lot won't make a difference really

[soft gulch]

I listen to that tune and go in trance sometimes.

It has pain, relief, triumph and sadness of victory.

And hope

Ok here it is

[wide wraith]

reminds me of the twin peaks music

[jolly harness]

You must be so fun at parties

[wide wraith]

havent been to a party in years, joys of being a carer, its like playing this game. RL comes first

one of the joys of being old i guess

[wide wraith]

last party i went too was probably like 30 years ago, if not longer

[marble grove]

Am I crazy or does this hq say it needs 30 to get it?🤣

[wide wraith]

they use the jigsaw piece with the triangle on it, thats in the glory store/other

so would cost you 300 glory to upgrade it

[tepid rivet]

You get it in milestones (or from glory points), as ShadowLord said, you need the shards to upgrade it

[tawdry dragon]

Hello everyone

[wraith vapor]

Said this 2 weeks ago 🤣🤣🤣

[digital glacier]

It's not 30 hq skins. 30 shards.
And
If you get a full on duplicate hq skin. You fkd. You can't upgrade it.
At least, until devs fix that FUTA

[wraith vapor]

The 15 shards from nexus will count towards the shard I m guessing so u can upgrade one per migo

[soft gulch]

Are they making it organically grow with upgrade

That would be cool

Like Hero statues

[wraith vapor]

I dont know but rewards for our nexus is 15 shards. Not sure if it's higher for other brackets

[soft gulch]

I see

I think they should do tbat

One skin keeps upgrading and keeps adding new details with upgrades

[wraith vapor]

That will never happen, they need to milk money from FOMO spenders. So it will be all of them

[digital glacier]

Higher bracket better rewards

Really crappy considering it's harsher on weaker tiers 😒

[wraith vapor]

How mnay shards are there for higher brackets?

[wraith vapor]

Thanks

[soft gulch]

I don't understand why people will upgrade this?
For morale?

And why shards and why not the whole hq skin being given out, like other skins

• you won't get enough shards to upgrade from events (free), so they will spend
• shards will be the currency to upgrade HQ skins (or specific skins) moving forward, cuz they might like to give provision for upgrading to migo skins and they are way too many to handle
• experimentation with partial rewards

One of these ^^

[misty pewter]

Silent hill collab?!?! More collabs? Sheesh

[stable cosmos]

Least its an undead horror thing this time i guess.

[digital glacier]

You'll soon learn.
If it's more than a month without a collab, I hope you got your rest cause all things unholy is about to be released 😂

My pretty pink pony coming soon.
They're already preparing with the hero titles 😂

@sage girder ^ there's tour new pfp 🤭🤣 take your pick which one you like

That top one be super special 😂

[soft gulch]

Top one will be the one which has space skin 😉

[sage girder]

Definitely this one is cuter

[last cradle]

Does anyone know if they will bring out frags for endoskeleton/Sarah O’conner and T800 damaged, or will they let us use general res frags soon?
Or have I missed the opportunity to get more frags

[sage girder]

Most likely the latter, it just takes them a while to enable general resonating conversation to the crossover heroes.

[last cradle]

Cheers

[placid hornet]

I think we started then our SoS tornment addiction

There was Migo when damage on some blue guy were the Solo leaderboard was it the one with special horde?

Wasn't 1st Mingo with skull HQ collection?

Primal Ruler & Primal Hunter

[wet tusk]

MIGO was something to look forward to and so is PVP event

Now, the entire game doesn’t have any event that is fun or worth opening the game for

Being unbeatable and being weak are both no longer fun

[stable cosmos]

Ive just looked through all the events playing right now and the only ones i did were lights and colors, and troop drill

Rays is done for the day. So is sotf

[wet tusk]

I skip even gems now

[stable cosmos]

I collect the bios

In the main though, I'm skipping 90% of what they chuck at us because it is too much and the benefit i get for the time spent isn't worth it

[wet tusk]

Both time and Money spent are not worth it now

We barely get a return for both , if alliances are avoiding you in events for being unbeatable and you never get matched with an alliance that matches your calibre , you are not having fun

If you are burning and hiding in safe zone or behind CP , it is not fun

You means a player or alliance

[stable cosmos]

The money spent is dumb too. Either you're spending a ton yet either not being quite there, or just at the top where all you do is buy bundles you're not really playing the game.

If you're a mid spender your money isn't earning you anything cos you are still basically bottom of the heap

Assuming 100 is top power the game ranks people more or less like this
100, whale
20, mid spender
5 low spender
-2 f2p

[soft gulch]

so this guy used to spawn after horde is over and you hit him and get MIGO crates, which would have 14 legendary frags, it had a leaderboard...not sure

some people used to leave after HORDE< and used to miss out on this boss...

[wet tusk]

It was first MIGO in new states
It has 3 phases each sync with a MIGO phase
Last they added both which spawn at the end and people used to hit
It was super fast and people used to actually have fun chasing points

Literally every single player would burn except whales

[soft gulch]

So I did this when....I moved to another alliance in 1118.

That was august, so about 6 months in the game

Ok so October, I still have msg asking someone to open Horde in our Farm alliance

[placid hornet]

Worst Mingo special even was this train something

[muted terrace]

The train.. oh the train... it was erm.. very slow

And deeply reliant on everyone listening consistently

[sage girder]

It was interesting-ish

Definitely better than horde participation wise

[jolly harness]

That was the best tho

It showed the true colors of the people in your alliance

Separated the team players from the freeloaders

[jolly harness]

Bruh quit or play. Don't half half it 🤣🤣

[soft gulch]

[thorny plume]

Whoever is in charge of getting into my wallet should be fired. Yesterday it was this