📋︱feedback-discussion

[mossy cairn]

Ok let me check how we can bypass this log in issue

[wide wraith]

no issue on my pc version

[woven spire]

its specifically to my PC

idk what happend, but randomly not working

stuck on this

Bluestacks and steam do work

[wide wraith]

the pc version is really just another emulator have you checked how must ram its using when running

[woven spire]

let me check

but to much pretty sure

xD

actually bluestacks isnt working anymore either

So ye its the emulator/virtual machine

13 RAM lmao

ye all stop at loading chief data

[wide wraith]

whats your cpu usage

[woven spire]

1%

0-1

[wide wraith]

ok not that lol just trying the more technical stuff

[woven spire]

Its not my pc pretty sure

Probally some setting

I got an high end pc, basically best of best

But either way not sure how that "changed" i did basically nothing

[wide wraith]

my little laptop runs the google games emulator, pc version and discord lol

[woven spire]

ITs not like it cannot run it, but it doesnt want or so lets say

[wide wraith]

when it goes that for me, sometimes its my internet speed being throttled

[woven spire]

works fine on phone and my laptop

[wide wraith]

cant think of anything else, even though i know you probably checked everything i mentioned lol

[woven spire]

Ye i dont know either

In bios virtualiization is on aswel

[wide wraith]

normally when it happens to me i just reboot, and run the pc version first

there has been more issues with it since they changed so it drops of the screen automatically

[woven spire]

It works on playstore pc

lmao

[wide wraith]

lol

i have been using the PC version since it was in beta

[knotty storm]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔have you tried clearing cache? On android that usually stops the game being stuck on loading...

[woven spire]

yup

cant figure it out

[wide wraith]

it almost sounds like an update is corrupted

which would come from their end

everything else works on the pc I presume

[woven spire]

yep

just this

Out of options, dunno how to fix besides fresh install

xD

[wide wraith]

sounds like the only option

[crude stratus]

Buy a new PC

[woven spire]

xD

[mossy cairn]

True, if its cause by the updates perhaps CS can assist, cause you have gone through most troubleshooting steps, lets see their input to the issue

[raw light]

Yes 54k same , f2p too ?

Ty

[muted terrace]

Yes, f2p since 2024

[tidal apex]

Is there any chance FunMinus will change clover event from 10x special operative into 1x normal resonating one? Perspective of wasting 100 clovers on some unneded trash is not fun 😒

[wraith vapor]

Last week, so I m gonna say no

U mean trading outpost?

[tidal apex]

Brilliant move on their side, cost got 10x higher but rewards (besides hero fragments arguably, for me they will have 0 value really....) did not get 10x increase 😒

[wraith vapor]

Obviously, it's not for everyone apparently. Good if you are going for spec ops, otherwise useless

[fathom gust]

Hey guys

[stable cosmos]

I can basically guarantee no. PoS (ha, excellent acronym) has always been a spenders event. They've just finally doubled down on it.

With their usual lack of tact too. 1x to 10x is too big a jump. Even the largest whales should be baulking at that one

[woven spire]

Not really tbh

Vendo is better though

And the biggest whales max him long ago

[drifting viper]

Like it was said above since its coming to a end, it prob wont be changed. However a good option could have been to switch between the heroes like you can in vendo. i agree with you, 10 is too much

[stable cosmos]

Yeah, cos there were oh so many clovers available for free and moving from one floor to the next was so reliable. You can look at the prize track for the 6 clovers you got.

Spenders event. F2p make minimal if any progress.

Illusion of f2p. Reality you needed to buy a ton of bundles to get anywhere useful.

[drifting viper]

It was nice when it was incorporated into jungle gems but that seemed to have stopped toward the end of the event

[hidden stream]

Hello, sorry for tag. I'm not sure if you've seen this already, but just to add, if the other options don't work, you can try downloading the game from the link provided in this post: #1185871219380211793 message.
Not sure if this will help you, but this has helped some players resolve similar issues

[wraith mauve]

Not true at all. I made plenty of progress on it as f2p, and had nearly 300 clovers leftover still that are now going to waste

[stable cosmos]

So, they were in JG for 1-2 sessions. There are 15 on the pos prize track for free. Every other one i can find is paid for.

And JG hates me for progress so I've mostly given up.

[digital glacier]

Nope, no hope

Ok. There's hope once again

@stable anvil you think I'll get my token this time? 😂🤣

[stable anvil]

No

Give or take a few bickering reports and maybe just maybe you will get it with your 100 bios extra extra compensation

[digital glacier]

🤣 You might be right

[stable anvil]

I swear its not that hard to send a whisker cat token for free🫠

They expect that token to give you an edge over many players. Probably thats why they giving you a hard time

They are like oh here come Mufasa again

[digital glacier]

I send video of full chat on bugs

[wide wraith]

actually that link isnt an official one, it does NOT take you to the official FP page, therefore is in breach of server rules

[errant apex]

It seems they won't change path of secret...
At least can we ask them to leave us a way to recycle T800 training frags?

[soft gulch]

Morning Sosages

Forget T800

Embrace operation festival

Win a wing and live happily thereafter

1.5% permanent HFD is better than a lousy skill that will get nerfed

[soft gulch]

They didn't give me one lousy vehicles crate, which I missed out cuz there were no tasks left on pass on last day

There is a bug in one of thr vehicles passes, task get over a day before pass. So if you have a task that is not complete om last day, it won't and you won't get a new tasks either

[next robin]

What's with all this complaining? Be grateful. As far as I know, they give you 1 free Sarge frag every day to get you ready when they turn him into a Special Operative Hero.

[cloud ridge]

I thought we had OF festival then and got happy

[hidden stream]

Well... What you're saying makes sense, of course, but there are always exceptions that we (the players) receive from CM or from LMODs (after the CM confirms it with them), which is what happened in this case. Thus, the officiality is confirmed

[wide wraith]

unfortunately trust has to be earned and just coming from one of the invisibles (CMs) isnt good enough, especially when they are invisible and dont help the community in other ways

and rules are rules its not one rule for one and one for another

[hidden stream]

I really understand your point of view, and I don't even want to start an "argument" about it, but I just hope that you trust the LMODs who provided us with this information after discussing with CM...
And you know that you can always go to them if you have any questions about the rules, and they have more understanding (I'm not sure which word is more suitable) to give you a more comprehensive answer

[stable cosmos]

Nah, bring the CM here to say it.

[hidden stream]

I would like to tell you "okay," but all MODs can do is inform them about the players' wishes, but can't control their actions
that's absolutely not the answer you're expecting, but I really can't say anything else. And once again, you can always open a LMOD ticket to voice your concerns

[woven spire]

Reinstalled pc and worked

Idk what the issue was still

[wide wraith]

cant use that spybot, because my discord it too well protected. And its exactly the answer i was expecting, just proving thats its one rule for one and one for the Mods

[hidden stream]

I'm glad to hear that, as long as it's working 😅

[hidden stream]

I didn't know that was "possible"... Are your private messages closed, or is there another reason?

[wide wraith]

nope but i use the streamer tools

[hidden stream]

Some complicated technical things

[wide wraith]

protects me a lot more than the usual settings, maybe one of the invisibles should tell you about that, wait they have only had discord for a year so probably dont know about it

[hidden stream]

I was hoping to hear this secret from you, but okay, I'll probably look it up myself later

[solemn kraken]

you need the regulation tinfoil hat to understand

[wide wraith]

its about the settings within the tools, comes with experience

[wide wraith]

its not about a tin foil hat, its about stopping a lot of the spam that comes with discord

take for example this server that caused the issue, how do we know nothing has been tagged onto the exe, we know nothing about the invisible who told the mod it was safe

someone who is new to the server and from the date on their discord, new to discord as well

[stable cosmos]

I certainly wouldn't trust that file. Specially not from what does amount to a random person in discord, even if they are a mod.

There is not a single thing in that link that says its funplus official. Not the domain, nothing. Good way to get yourself compromised

[wide wraith]

my point exactly

[solemn kraken]

why should we believe this nonsense from a random bot on the discord?

[wide wraith]

why should we trust some random link just because one of the invisibles says it secure

[alpine bridge]

[woven spire]

[soft gulch]

The CM reached out to me for one of the feedback

It was pleasant to know that they cared. It's very simple.
CM = Community manager

Talk to community, if talking in open feels not so helpful, talk in private.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Mahiru wouldn't stop complaining about JG

It's so juvenile

[wide wraith]

tried that, spoke in private, BUT nothing for 3 weeks now

[soft gulch]

3 weeks? We have been waiting for months for certain things.

[wide wraith]

but in a dm, would expect at least a reply

so any trust is now 0 but that still doesnt excuse an unofficial link being used, breeching server rules which it seems mods are immune to

[alpine bridge]

[distant gull]

Megaphone gems seems fine tbh, but dice gems should be complained a lot

[jolly harness]

You should be silenced

Forever

Apply mute and forget about it

No gifs allowed here.

[distant gull]

🤫

[cloud ridge]

[topaz spindle]

@limber sparrow Increase the amount of resources that can be traded in Supply Convoy. OR make it limitless by imposing a tax, for fairness. Blоnk state 1395. My name has a different letter in it, so must be copy pasted

[limber sparrow]

I love that feedback, i will write it here and u can let me know if its good enough

Observation: the amount of resources that can be traded in supply convoy not being high enough

Consequences: players not being able to trade enough resources as they should be.

Solution:increase the amount of resources that can be traded in supply, or make it limitless by imposing a tax

Is this okay?

[topaz spindle]

Perfect

[woven spire]

[topaz spindle]

Blоnk

[limber sparrow]

Its up for upvote now, thank u so much for ur help #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[alpine bridge]

[placid hornet]

Look that

Old state

So my tempest stats while devs pushed hero drop for my state range make G3 useless

50% higher stat range

[stable anvil]

Probably a bug

Devs did had issues at first where crates vs ones made had different stats and such

Stfu
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Downvote this pls

This is the person responsible for all the mess in the game

[soft gulch]

Do you even realise that you are screwing up events?

Don't invite unnecessary attention.

[stable anvil]

You should be banned period

[alpine bridge]

🤣he will just keep posting and posting

[unreal nacelle]

@hollow sail sorry for the tag but how does the below sound?

Observation: The wording “locked (enemy) on reports next to chief gear is unreadable

Consequences: People are unable to clearly read what is written and it strains your eyes to read it normally.

Solution: change the colour so it’s easier to read

[woven spire]

Think she

[alpine bridge]

Bio says he.

[woven spire]

So you click on complainers their pf

But not mine

??????

[soft gulch]

Is there any chart for Behemoth Institute?

Plasma and poly

[alpine bridge]

Yes

[scenic snow]

We have this but it needs updating

[mild gale]

To add to, here is the charts for poly and plasma #📖︱official_en_content message

[soft gulch]

Yeah I have seen this. I needed poly plasma numbers

[soft gulch]

Thank you

So I need 1040 poly to go from 13 to 30

[solemn kraken]

doesn't it increase as you level up the building?

[limber sparrow]

Sure does but its really not high enough for the cooldown it has got

[digital glacier]

Anyone notice the more @distant gull complains about jungle gems
The more often we seem to have the crappy version of jg levels and bonus levels 🤷

[distant gull]

Bye @stable anvil blocked and no unblock for you 😘

Funny

[wintry pagoda]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[limber sparrow]

[wintry pagoda]

Can’t believe we are asking for more paid stuff from devs, as if what we already have is not enough

[distant gull]

That game alr p2w

Sorry pals but I mute that discussion since it's non sense

I think I shouldn't keep this channel for a while 🙈

[soft gulch]

Hitman TA's dropped free.

Hitman was a really good collab when it comes to giving stuff, you could get 2 collections completed from the item merge game and the Spectacle too.

I don't think they are asking for TA to be paid, they just want it to drop free, like it did in Hitman.

[jolly harness]

More paywall, less free

[cursive vessel]

By the way you can block me, i dont like you and i think you're an idiot 😂
I can also get muted if needed, I dont care

[stable anvil]

Downvote
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable anvil]

That only blocks us from private chat but i still see msg here

I dont mind being block, why not block everyone too so they dont have to see such ridiculous feedback that actually throws them in the pit instead of helping f2p

The best f2p advice is to not mess with any f2p event. Unless the change is very drastic like that of pearl shop. All you cared about is you lvl 20 bonus is a building thing. Jg is only about one thing provide the main item to players whether it be dic3 for this current setup, circuits for operation festival, megaphones for carnival etc etc. the other building items and such as extra gravy for f2p.

<@&628563208164081690> remove that feedback

It should be that if someone cannot feedback then that feedback should not be allowed period

Just because they dislike the person to block them that shouldn't affect the feedback voting section

Thats how you can have a rigged feedback section. Block all those who would downvote and keep those who will upvote

[silent pike]

Unfortunately we do not remove feedback reports if they are posted in the right format.
People can always downvote if they don't agree with it, even if it means that they will get blocked by that person, that might not even be a bad thing sometimes

[stable anvil]

Then best option is to have amod only report feedback

Because mods cannot block a player for specific reason and in this case the votes are limited so again its rigged

[stable anvil]

@silent pike read this part again

[silent pike]

For this i would suggest opening a ticket here #🚨︱contact_an_lmod and make the suggestion to change the feedback system to mod only

[stable anvil]

Will do

[stable cosmos]

Well I'm downvoting it cos its poorly written and can be interpreted in way too many ways to be useful.

Be hyper specific or don't feedback.

[sage girder]

[stable anvil]

Already submitted it to dl mod to have mods be the only ones to send it because again this can be rigged

Block all who dislike it and therefore you have a biased feedback of players you know upvoting it

Devs already have the feedback to make it more visible to see what the bonus are and thats what this person wants. They dont wanna spend their 1 dollar on a useless building item when the whole reason for jg is the item to improve your progress on other events

[stable cosmos]

Mods write some pretty heinous feedback too tbh. I've seen some utter nonsense in there

[cloud ridge]

So

Mute the mods?

[stable anvil]

Yeah but with mods you can downvote they cant block you or that will be biased

[floral sedge]

Feedback written by mods is feedback requested by people, posted like people requested, whether it be here in discord or in DM's

[stable cosmos]

Often with garbled english. Theres what a user wants and then theres verbatim without even fixing grammar

[pallid delta]

I'd rather have egg back at lvl 20 as it was in the first rounds of jungle gems before they nerfed it

[stable anvil]

Eggs were never at lvl 20

[pallid delta]

They were when jungle gems were introduced

[stable anvil]

To my knowledge especially 1st one

[pallid delta]

I even made a feedback report at 19th of August 2024 when they nerfed it and moved it to 30+ instead of 20

[stable anvil]

Then mayb i should check that feedback because that would be nice but i guess they did tha because it cost 50 usd for 1 egg

[pallid delta]

It was in the early days of eggs

[stable anvil]

Continue to downvote feedback and this person completely until they decide to quit the game and stop ruining f2p players
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Share with your state if they dont want to their players to quit because their players cant get anything free due to a stingy nutsack

[limber sparrow]

Everyone can have opinions about different things, if they feel like they dont agree with a feedback they dont HAVE to upvote it, thats why the upvote and downvote feature was added❤️

[stable anvil]

And yet blocked people cant do either

Already msg lmod to have it where mods only can send feedback for a nonbias field

[limber sparrow]

Exactly what id suggest you to do, the lmods should hopefully be able to solve ur issues is there anything i can help u with? Im always here!

[stable anvil]

Nothing i already done

[limber sparrow]

Perfect!

[digital glacier]

I seen one downvoted about 90% of feedback. Even ones that had 500 or 600 upvotes and 0 down vote at the time.

So, I have 2 like that I blocked 🤣 but that's the extent of my block list.
Well, 1 spam person join my scam discord blah blah, blocked 🤣

[cloud ridge]

You sound like the person who would advocate for the dislike button to be removed from YouTube and Netflix because it hurts people feelings

[limber sparrow]

Oh do i?

[cloud ridge]

Let's get rid of the down vote button on feedback so the person who wanted it doesn't get upset

[cloud ridge]

Le oui

[digital glacier]

Wish they'd remove the limit for G1 to g2 aircraft.
10 weeks remaining without missing a beat
So cause a few months ago sos didn't catch my click on the item I wanted and opened a F ton of these 😭

Wish they'd change the format to the factory store conversion

So much more use friendly

[cloud ridge]

If they removed the limit then f2p would catch up too quickly and whales couldn't burn as much

I want them frankly to remove monkes limits on exchanges or least up it drastically

[limber sparrow]

Uh oh

[digital glacier]

And if I open 1000 crates of the wrong item.....
In even worse off 🙄

[cloud ridge]

Those screens hurt my eyes

[last hazel]

If I ever found who is down voting my comments in game, I will zero them 😂 🤣

[digital glacier]

Airplane max.
Heli almost max.
And i still be doing all conversions for spectra and new one.
A couple levels of heli isn't going to do anything 🤣

Trap lazy since 2024 🤣

Maybe 2023 🤣

[last hazel]

I only donate 1 cell, it's all I do lately. 😂

[limber sparrow]

I dislike my friends comments on purpose

[cloud ridge]

I'd actually like it if they showed who down voted, i bet they dont on purpose and wont ever to avoid wars lol

[last hazel]

Hahaha, right?

[digital glacier]

8 traps since Dec 6 2024 🤣

[last hazel]

I do 1 in a week because of migo

[cloud ridge]

It would annoy people more knowing and possibly stop down votes in a way as people will wanna hide 😂

[stable anvil]

They should ita not like f2p gonna beat a whale.

Also my issue mostly the one where you have to used hundreds of thousands of airplane parts to upgrade. Stealth module

[last hazel]

Why not? I beat whales, they speed march, I bubble. I'm faster than them

[stable anvil]

Bhahahahaha. Port master

They can use all the bios to run faster doesn't mean im slow to click relocate

[digital glacier]

Did it first week last migo. That's it. Did it again week 1, about to do it soon for week 2.
I didn't do F-all last one

[digital glacier]

If it svs. I let umm hit me 🙄

[last hazel]

Without migo, I don't even know what time is trap 😂

[digital glacier]

I'm more excited about labyrinth than I am trap 🦊

[cloud ridge]

My alliance coins generator

[digital glacier]

Yeah I be slacking. I need to get back to being better at doing it 😢

[last hazel]

Bhahahaha , I never played it at all, 🤣

That's not a bug, 🤣

[digital glacier]

Shop needs more potions

There's more heroes this time. And some I have red. So I don't buy. I buy last for skills upgrade

[last hazel]

😂

I only buy potions and hero gear crates for OF.

[digital glacier]

Labyrinth need to be weekly like trap 😌

[last hazel]

Hahaha,

If they upgrade rewards, I might play it

[digital glacier]

Quick raid.
2 seconds to beat levels 🤣

Rank rewards is not the point of labyrinth

[stable anvil]

Vip needs fixing

6 gold frags is cheap

Most old things need a revamp

[digital glacier]

Cheap. Lol. You mean about as useful as the toilet paper on the public beach bathroom floor

[stable anvil]

You know what i mean

[digital glacier]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

^ that feedback fixes it

[stable anvil]

I need more gold frags to actually upgrade hero skills because yeah 3 new heroes which need a total of 1890 gold frags just to get 1 hero lvl 9 skill now times that by 3 thats 5670 gold frags each season

[digital glacier]

With out sos having to actually update the rewards there.
Players can do it. Yeah, it takes an extra step, but it's flexibility 😌

[stable anvil]

Need to resend it again with latest upvotes and downvotes because im not sure it made it to top 10 this past week

[digital glacier]

Which is bs considering there is only 1 single post with more than my feedback.
Fishing shop 🤣
Then there's tons more that are there but less. Unless added up.
There's really only 1 feedback about fishing shop and 1 about pearls shop for anniversary and mine that have anything over 250 votes

[stable anvil]

Told you its junk feedback system

Important feedback get sent elsewhere for repeated feedback

[digital glacier]

Where's the top 10 feedback at?

[uncut creek]

It’s posted in #1185728426770968677

Hope that helps 🙏

[digital glacier]

Can't see it on my discord version 🤣

[uncut creek]

Monthly top 10 posted as thread

[uncut creek]

I think it’s because you’re not following it, so it doesn’t appear

[digital glacier]

Share a post within it

[wide wraith]

#1414283151391592660 message

[uncut creek]

Thanks Shadow 🙏

[digital glacier]

So.
Have to follow to see it.
How many don't 🤷🤣
How reliable is this crap system 🙄

[wide wraith]

this feedback system has been an issue since it was introduced, the only reason it was btw was because the Devs were too lazy to look at every individual bit of feedback

[tepid rivet]

[wide wraith]

back in the day, feedback was split into current event feedback and suggestions for other things

[uncut creek]

It usually appears in channels when you first join server under “all channels” you’ll select what you see on the server. Will double check if that channel is added as default there when you first join.

Feedback top 10 is relayed to CM then it’s relayed to devs; if i understand correctly.

[tepid rivet]

We had 3k upvotes to remove roses from Valentine's event and what we got was: participation is voluntary, not mandatory

[wide wraith]

also back in the day we didnt have to do the Devs work and come up with a solution, surely thats what the Devs are paid for

[tepid rivet]

So if it was forwarded to devs or Kim Kardashian's nail breaks, doesn't really matter

[wide wraith]

it makes you wonder if anyone at funplus knows how feedback should actually work, the most important feedback should, and i say should because the Devs dont know how to use it properly, from PTR

once an event is live, any feedback is actually worthless as no way Devs will stop an event to fix things

[digital glacier]

But why should they care, when they make money and still scam players 🤷
The system is pretty much running itself at this point

They know the game is dieing

They know these kinds of games life expectancy

[wide wraith]

wait to the so-called CM is nothing more than a feedback collator

[uncut creek]

We have a feedback and bugs team that collates the feedback and bugs together that is sent to CM. You can always message the CM about anything, hopefully a reply to it…
The CM is the direct link to the devs for us, we can always bring concerns directly to the CM for an answer if no reply

[wide wraith]

and yet the CM gives a lmod a link which breaks the tos of this server and allows it to be posted, if any of us did that it would be removed instantly

but because its a lmod who posts it, its ok??

[uncut creek]

Are you talking about the link for the PC version?

Apologies if I misunderstood

[wide wraith]

yes, its not on the list of official links

[woven spire]

[wide wraith]

its a straight download from a cloud server

[uncut creek]

Ah, ok! It was provided by the customer service for those who had the issue of the clouded screen, to download the game through the link. It was confirmed ok to use by CM, I’ll try and see if it can be added to official links. Will take it up to LMOD about it with that concern as it’s out of my remit.

[digital glacier]

My feedback was after the weeks cutoff time. Should be in the next one

[woven spire]

Who knows

Maybe they mine bitcoins on your pc

[wide wraith]

it was an lmod who posted it, and sorry but as the CM does nothing else breaking the server rules is NOT acceptable

[stable anvil]

I dont think so.

Thats what happened to one of my feedbacks and it was upvoted a lot and it wa ignored

If it failed to reach cutoff then you would need to redo it so it can be made for this current week

[digital glacier]

Feedback was posted on Sept 28
My was posted on Sept 30

[wide wraith]

so if i have posted that link it would not have been removed or is it one rule for lmods and one for everyone else

[uncut creek]

As it’s out of my remit for the answer to that question about rule for lmods and one for everyone else, I cannot really comment. Hope you understand my position on it. I can take this up with LMODs on it to answer?

Or rather, SLMOD?

[wide wraith]

yeah but there has been <@&844647071553814548> online since i mentioned it this morning and still couldnt be bothered to answer,

[digital glacier]

You know what I love about sos.

200 fair tickets for 100 pearls with 20 chances
It could be
2 tickets for 1 pearl with 2000 chances

End result, less of our stuff gets wasted
Same max amount of pearls could be bought

[uncut creek]

Give them time to answer please 🙏 hopefully they will get back to you soon on this matter.

[wide wraith]

why use the spying bot rather than answer in the open as rules affect everyone

[digital glacier]

And dream coins
Awesome sauce
200 silver coins at 50 pearls
2000 silver coins at 500 pearls
Could just be 4 silver found for 1 pearl with more chances to equal the same amount of pearls purchasable 🙄

Super tycoon on point 😌

For pearls 😌
But not for other stuff like pet capsules 🤣
800 for 20
You mean 40 for 1 🙄

2000 for 5 spec ops suit frags
You mean 400 for 1 🙄

Why sos ruthless to players like this 🙄

[alpine bridge]

[full rampart]

Ello everyone i’m at a wedding so please give me a few minutes to catch up with the chat

[wide wraith]

because if there were not, their pet whales would cry that their advantage was shrinking

[digital glacier]

Why you here if you at a wedding?
Wedding that boring?
Closed bar?

[wide wraith]

Hey Tallie have a drink or 3 for me

[full rampart]

I saw an lmod was needed and look like im the only one

[digital glacier]

It would benefit whales too ya know 🙄

[ruby delta]

if that’s how it works she will be drunk by time she’s had drinks for both of us

[ruby delta]

closed bar would be good excuse

[full rampart]

Sadly im the driver so the 3-6 drinks were water

[digital glacier]

Uber 🙄 wtf wrong with yall

[full rampart]

This town doesn’t have ubers

[digital glacier]

Get drunk then tell the people, sorry. We sleeping here tonight 🤣

[full rampart]

Neither taxiws

[wide wraith]

taxi then

[ruby delta]

u in an amish town?

[full rampart]

Nothing, is a small small town, and i need to go to ny grandparents village

[tepid rivet]

The town doesn't have a taxi? Where are you at the wedding, on the moon?

It's not a town, it's a village then

[full rampart]

Is a 5000 peple “town” thet dont have roubdabouts and stop lights 🚥 or however are them called

[full rampart]

No no this is the “biggest town” around

[digital glacier]

Should have asked the local town people to be your taxi. Pay them. And find the good spots 😌

[tepid rivet]

[ruby delta]

americans reading this like “towns need to have a roundabout to be big?”

[tepid rivet]

No traffic lights

[full rampart]

I probably should’ve the non alcoholic drink is literally sprtand some red syrup

[digital glacier]

Sounds like some places in Missouri 🤣

[full rampart]

Sprite*

[tepid rivet]

Maybe no need for the 2 cars that drive there

And one of those is Tallie's

[full rampart]

I wish i could give my driving license exam here

[ruby delta]

[full rampart]

In 5 min you finish going around all town

[ruby delta]

got more chances of seeing people riding horses down the road by sounds of it

[digital glacier]

Wedding must be boring. You appeared to answer nothing and still here chatting

[full rampart]

And they don’t have hotels

[full rampart]

I’ve been to 14 this summer

[tepid rivet]

Not when you drive by tractor, which is the other 'car' in the village

[wide wraith]

sounds like a few i know down here, blink and you miss them

[full rampart]

I can say i’m a “bit” tired of them

[digital glacier]

Well, stop crashing weddings then 🙄

[full rampart]

We sold our family one, because apparently ladies shouldn’t drive one

[full rampart]

I had to pay at all of them

[tepid rivet]

Okay I'm with Amish then

[full rampart]

My this year holiday was going at weddings and giving bride and groom the envelope with money

[thorn axle]

Tallie always the guest when will it be your turn?

[tepid rivet]

She will have no money to invite the 500 villagers

[full rampart]

Who’s gonna marry crazy

[digital glacier]

When she visits me 😏

[thorn axle]

The 500 guests will have to give her money

[thorn axle]

LOL

[full rampart]

you need to visit my “town”

We give money at weddings lexie

[tepid rivet]

Once they get there by donkey?

[thorn axle]

Horse and carriage

[tepid rivet]

We do too, so I avoid all of them

[full rampart]

This would be fun!

[digital glacier]

This ain't Cinderella 🙄

[full rampart]

Really? I thought only my country was crazy

[thorn axle]

My cousin arrived to her wedding in a horse and carriage

[tepid rivet]

It's spookey season too, let her have the pumpkin ride

[tepid rivet]

Every country is crazy, hence you on the moon at your 15th wedding

[digital glacier]

I want some Halloween scary creepy wedding 🤷

[thorn axle]

I told her don’t go to a wedding, pretend you’re sick but she insisted to hurt her own bank balance

Much like sos bundles

[tepid rivet]

I mean, 15 weddings somewhat better than 15 funerals

[full rampart]

I never spent or will spend on sos the amount i spent on weddings this yeat

[digital glacier]

Unless you get the life insurance policy

[full rampart]

Sadly i was the family representative for these also this year

[tepid rivet]

[wide wraith]

but then 15 divorce parties to go to in a few years time

[tepid rivet]

Tallie, marry Mufasa, he will not send you to any of these

[thorn axle]

[tepid rivet]

15 baby showers first

[digital glacier]

Some probably already had their 😂

[full rampart]

But then he will need to come to my towns weddings

[digital glacier]

Where's your town?

[full rampart]

I have 4 next year, one is 2 sos players

[tepid rivet]

Just move to the other side of the world and say you're too poor to come

[thorn axle]

That means he needs to pay too right?

[full rampart]

Of course

[thorn axle]

[full rampart]

Im moving to fear’s country next month

[tepid rivet]

Who or what is fear?

[full rampart]

But Im a dentist so this excuse won’t work

[full rampart]

The old young guard is a fear

[thorn axle]

Im not that old geez

[full rampart]

The wedding cake is cheesecake fear

[tepid rivet]

So Fear is going to attend your weddings too, I see

[thorn axle]

I’ll only attend tallies wedding if the cake is cheesecake

I don’t eat cake

[tepid rivet]

She needs a cookie cake or it's not Tallie

ANYHOW

[digital glacier]

$700 plane ticket 🤔

[tepid rivet]

The link

Which is unofficially official

[full rampart]

The computer link one?

[wide wraith]

yeah

[full rampart]

It was said is the safe link to be used by the CM

[tepid rivet]

Saberlot?

[wide wraith]

but if one of us had posted it, it would have been removed instantly

[full rampart]

I MISS HIM

[thorn axle]

And that’s when you can raise a totally valid report

[north moss]

Saberlottttt

[north moss]

Same!
Tallie I need some cakeee

[thorn axle]

We can officialise the unofficially official link by paying tallie pay the same amount she does at weddings

Making tallie pay rather

[full rampart]

[north moss]

Fearrrrrr don't booli Talkie.
We need the cake

[full rampart]

We would not remove if players posted the official link. (Well unofficially official)

If any mods would remove it please come to me. I will be bonking people

[digital glacier]

Why I get S1 TA in the 10000 TA crafting crate?

[tepid rivet]

Because Tallie spent her money on weddings and not SoS

[full rampart]

[thorn axle]

Adding onto tallie, since it’s confirmed that the link is an official one we can work on adding it to #🔗︱official-links

[wide wraith]

maybe I just dont trust the "invisibles" any more

[thorn axle]

Me neither, but in my case tallie is the invisible one because I sing amazingly to her and she ignores me… it’s like she’s invisible

[wide wraith]

no i mean the CMs

[thorn axle]

Oh

Im stuck at work and slowly losing the plot

[full rampart]

Lexie just boolied me

[wide wraith]

to be honest Tallie is the only one i regularly see

either that or she just wants me to shut up lol

[thorn axle]

Are you saying you want to see me regularly too 😌

[full rampart]

I never want you to shut up

[wide wraith]

well there are some i never see

[full rampart]

Feedback discussion is my favorite channel.
Was my beginning of mod life channel and i love all of you regulars here

[thorn axle]

I don’t want to make assumptions, you’re British shadow?

[wide wraith]

yup

[thorn axle]

I had a feeling you mentioned before but didn’t know for certain

[uncut creek]

Feedback discussion is growing on me now

[wide wraith]

its my favorite channel as well, learned a lot from the regulars here but its also very annoying sometimes

[thorn axle]

That’s valid

It was the only channel I used to be in when I was a green, haven’t had much time as a blue but I definitely did miss discussions I partook in

[digital glacier]

Sorry 🤷😂

[full rampart]

You are definitely not annoying

[wide wraith]

maybe i an just too old in both game terms and rl to look at other channels

[digital glacier]

So you do like me 😏

[tepid rivet]

It's my favourite channel too, I come here, drop some nonsense and hush before I get hushed by MODs

[full rampart]

Of course i do you are one of the few people who’s math leaves me speechless

[thorn axle]

Drop some nonsense, make fun out of tallie, all in a days work

[tepid rivet]

And ask for Liannin's goat

[thorn axle]

Why’s that goat lowkey adorable though

[tepid rivet]

Because it's hers

[thorn axle]

That’s fair

[full rampart]

Liannin’s goat should happen

My unicorn hq after her

[thorn axle]

I feel like it needs a name change to judgemental goat to liannins goat

[digital glacier]

I thought it was her neighbors and she got to go see it whenever she wanted

Like Charlotte web 😂

[tepid rivet]

They didn't give her for her 2 year queue anniversary. Instead we got some cake fiend march skin in anniversary event

[full rampart]

Is judgemental because it hasn’t happened yet

[digital glacier]

Never got her dev chat

[full rampart]

I think is been 2 years i ask about a unicorn.

I will need to play this game till 99 years waiting for my unicorn

[thorn axle]

And now I’m judging you

[digital glacier]

But you found your unicorn 🥺

[tepid rivet]

I miss Guard's head with smoke pfp btw, have looked at those hands for far too long

[thorn axle]

LOL WHAT

[full rampart]

Im having a “fight” with cs for the past 3 days.
I think they are so tired of me that i got underlined and bolded answer

[thorn axle]

that caught me so off guard 🤣🤣🤣

[wide wraith]

you sort of got a unicorn or horse with added metal horn

[full rampart]

But noone sees that….

[full rampart]

Dlmod. Off Guard

[wide wraith]

i did when we got it, blamed you if you remember lol

[tepid rivet]

I don't think Guard thought I would remember that, same as last time when I mentioned it

[full rampart]

I think i got so many angry people asking me if in happy when there was that fake photo with an unicorn behemoth

[tepid rivet]

But you didn't win a dev chat and never got it, please complain to the tractor next to you

[thorn axle]

[uncut creek]

Perfect for Halloween

[full rampart]

Fear there’s something on your face

[tepid rivet]

No smoke though

[thorn axle]

Took me a second to find it

[tepid rivet]

Ahahaha

It's spookey season, so it fits

Also to Tallie's pumpkin carriage

[uncut creek]

Ghostly Guard

[thorn axle]

Has a ring to it can’t lie

[tepid rivet]

Suits the old then as well

[tepid rivet]

MOD abuse

[uncut creek]

plz demote

[tepid rivet]

Ahaha

We can ask Azaya to do so

[wide wraith]

i could never be a mod, thinking about it, like my name too much

[tepid rivet]

I do too, and I love my sarcasm too much as well

But being a MOD is thankfully voluntary and not mandatory, thank goodness

[wide wraith]

and i can still help others, without all the hassle lol

[full rampart]

The lord of the Shadows.MOD

I tried to get liannin and cerb to join the mod team for months and my plan failed, shadow i still have hope for

[wide wraith]

tempting lol but i dont have the right temperament

[digital glacier]

<^King of the jungle 😌

[tepid rivet]

I remember our state MOD, Barbie the Barbarian. How about that, ShadowLord?

[full rampart]

The King of Numbers.MOD

No wonder noone lets me name mods

[digital glacier]

Rainmam jr

[full rampart]

I missed a mod named like this, i can’t believe i missed that

[wide wraith]

in some respects i dont have the patience to be a Mod

[tepid rivet]

The name or the MOD? 😂

[wide wraith]

umm no lol

[full rampart]

The both i guess but the name i meant
I find it absolutely amazing

[tepid rivet]

It was a highlight in state chat for sure

[full rampart]

You definitely do, i know you for long enough snd i saw you helping people here

[wide wraith]

thats different

[digital glacier]

Seeker of planets
Seeker of knowledge
There was another seeker I forget who

[uncut creek]

I remember that mod name, was def a hoot

[full rampart]

It’s about the same

[digital glacier]

Which one?

[tepid rivet]

Seeker of Truth?

[uncut creek]

Barbie

Oh

[full rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1185737154765262970 also the link has been added here

Thank you all for bringing it up. You are amazing

[random storm]

What did I do?

[digital glacier]

So, when you gonna get back to your wedding?

[full rampart]

Can i be named barbie

[full rampart]

Wow wanting to get rid of me so soon

[wide wraith]

maybe we can talk about it one day when you are not at a wedding, if there are enough days in a year

[tepid rivet]

We need to demote the Guard for MOD abuse

[random storm]

Nah we can’t do that anymore

[full rampart]

Is the last for this year (i truly hope)

[random storm]

We can call you Barb though

[full rampart]

Look at her breaking my heart in pieces

[digital glacier]

9 lion dance statues in the 1 free draw ❤️❤️❤️

[full rampart]

Knowing my mods that would go into barabrian not barbie

[digital nexus]

Barbie the Barbarian sounds great

[uncut creek]

Barb is short for Barbara tho

[random storm]

[wide wraith]

but seriously Thank you Tallie for sorting about that link

[full rampart]

No don’t thank me. I thank you for bringing it up

[uncut creek]

Lucky! Must be the wedding bells

[wide wraith]

you know me, if i see something i will bring it up

[digital glacier]

I'm just here for causing headaches with math 😂

And complaining about sos usually 🤷

[uncut creek]

Much appreciated for bringing it up Shadow 🙏

[tepid rivet]

Isn't it what this channel is about anyway

[wide wraith]

i gave up complaining, to be honest, I find myself just sitting here hoping i can help someone

[digital glacier]

Some days I don't have the will to fight with sos 😔

[tepid rivet]

It's okay, those days are legit too. Other days you fight even more 🤗

[uncut creek]

Wise words, Lexie

[wide wraith]

at my age i have to watch my heat rate, so its no good getting all excited about something that isnt going to change

[thorn axle]

Wow

I’ll remember this

[cloud ridge]

She's too busy changing pics to care anyways

[stable anvil]

Coming soon in 24 hrs

And i agree. I rather this event be more repetitive than trap.

Atleast some more lvls would be nice too

[digital glacier]

At least now work quick raid, many many many players have have a decent amount of opportunity to reach max level, so it's back to a fair playing field

Still mad at all the actual grinding time I did, only to be quickly passed by everyone who never played it in a couple events time. All cause they had tickets saved up.

[soft gulch]

What happened here

[stable anvil]

Hmmmmm how does that work?

I just finally got to max lvl after having skipped the events months in advance and i can finally 1 tap to be top ranking

[digital glacier]

Non grinders, those who quit when things got tough. can quick clear levels and pay bio for 2 more passes.

Those who grinded usually had none in reserve.
Without bundles for buying more passes. But you can buy like 5 passes.
So someone who wanted to be top, could easily buy 7 passes they had in reserve I didn't. Each time the event rolled out.
They did double the floors in seconds. Spent practically no time on it.

With bundles they do 12 or so which counts for about 16 rooms cause of those bonus levels that give tickets.

Where as I'd get 7 one time and maybe 8 the next from those. So they literally doing double cause they had those tickets in reserve.

You dont really buy mansion cards do you? @stable anvil

[stable cosmos]

I did for a little to cram items in so i didn't need to place upgrade replace. But i gave up when it got more expensive

[digital glacier]

2 rooms left.
I find out in 5 weeks the last rooms amount
Expected floor 2 unlocked date
march 1 2026 @ 0utc

Projected unlock date according to my estimated calculation of final room cost

[stable anvil]

Mansion cards, yes to open more space and vehicle sections. I just worked on it the moment they started giving items for certain mileage

[stable anvil]

Im like 4 to 5 upgrade behind. Im like at the left back room corner

Whats funny is that you dont see those extra islands anywhere anymore

[stable cosmos]

Thats cos both the island and the mansion were stupid mechanics in every sense once they overloaded us with tat that has effects. If it was another place you could just design for, eh maybe. But when it became "must place to upgrade" they became garbage heaps. Now that we can upgrade without placing they're just useless

[stable anvil]

I still believe those islands play a very small and specific role to spenders only. I believe they give Hero damage or something to players

Useless in the sense for majority ot players but inly for elites does it make a difference

Each other island gives 1 percent defense amplification

[digital glacier]

My main buy the magma one in bounty blast, it's bigger than the snow. Plus I love fire 😝
A crappy (should be a bring um back alt really) won it in bounty blast 😂

[stable cosmos]

Oh sure they grant something, but that doesn't make them a good idea. Could have bought a title for the same effect tbh. Could have been anything but they were trying to fix a problem they created and solve it by gouging players.

Stupid idea really.

[soft gulch]

Can someone tell me if one of these frames that get recycled for sure

Don't want to take out of crate if they don't recycle

[sage girder]

I will check what I have available for recycling and see if any matches, no official information/chart on that.

[jolly harness]

Pretty sure the one with the bunny was recyclable a few months ago

[wraith vapor]

We didnt have enough collabs this year?

[tame oxide]

these show up for recycle in 149

[woven spire]

"we cant wait how much money comes in"

[tame halo]

well collab all time, once terminator ends another one needs to start but who is really asking for collab in excitement 🤣

[wraith vapor]

From the same 200 players 😂

[wraith vapor]

Lara, hitman, terminator and now another one. Seriously they have an attention span of a humming bird

[wraith vapor]

No one is asking for it, even the same 200 players are probably not asking for it but they will buy everything as usual

[tame halo]

hitman wasn’t that bad comparing to all others. i think pacific rim was worst so far.

if they need more money, they’ll do like another pacific rim 🥲

[wraith vapor]

It wasnt bad but it's way too much in a short period of time. In 4 years they did what 4-5 collabs and just this year 4

[wraith vapor]

Most people didn't spend much on pacific rim as it was too expensive except for same few hundred

[fair plinth]

Tbh: Every collaboration has a shop, where you can decently get stuff for free just with a bit of investing time.
For the Majortiy of this Game (non spenders) its good.

[wraith vapor]

The amount of time required daily is already too much. I spend more time on this than at my work. I don't think we need more stuff to spend more time on it. Stores are fine for non spenders but power gap keeps on getting higher and higher so no matter what they get, they still burn in one hit so redundant on what they get

[fair plinth]

It is indeed time intensive, agree on that point.
Its also of everyone owns choice to decide how much time you spend on this Game and with minimum time invest you can grow. im not saying with every collaboration you will beat spenders, that would be issusionally, It just helps to be finish certain things.
About the power gap i see it like this: if you are in a State/Alliance who has this Spenders, you will also face those States/alliances more or less.(tear system as example in Nexus)
Meaning if you are lower state, you wont most likely face those Gamers.
Everyone should then decide on their own interest and what benefits for them in their own interest.
It doestn make sense transfering as F2P into a Super state cause there you are the prey onbviously.

[cloud ridge]

I hope the collab as absolutely nothing to do with Halloween and is something like my little pony or finding nemo

[bleak dawn]

I usually hit my SoS predictions...my prediction for a Rainbow Brite crossover so far looks bad

[wraith vapor]

Yes it's on everyone to decide how much time you spend but the amount of daily tasks and events are way too many already. Any collab take too much time due to either energy getting full for merging event or trucks, intel, trap, immortal and so on and on.
It helps to finish certain thing but it doesn't help them sustain in fights. Any solo event like immortal even top 50 are medium spenders so not helping ftp in any way.
As far as matching goes, i completely disagree, it doesn't matter how your state is, another state just needs one very strong person while you have have 5 or 6 medium and you will match with them. As it doesn't take a lot of aspects into account to calculate strength. Same applies to nexus, RR, SVS. Your alliance may have 3/4 medium strength, you will be matched with an allaince with one super strong lead while others weak. Still you won't be able to compete in anyway with them. Strategy only gets you so far. I don't know any f2p who transferred to a very strong state personally but no matter where u go system is equally broken.

[wraith vapor]

I have a feeling it's silent Hill as a new silent hill game is coming out

[cloud ridge]

If its something actually relevant for once then swag

If not then trash as usual

[wraith vapor]

Yeah, just getting tired of back to back collabs. Would have preferred a 6 month break. As during next collab there will be thanksgiving and Christmas event too.

[cloud ridge]

I'd prefer next year and rest of this year have no collabs or new stuff added

No new temptest, heros, features etc.

[wraith vapor]

Same, but that's wishful thinking. Pretty sure there will be 10 more things in next 3 months. Just ridiculous

[cloud ridge]

More likely 1 month 😂 😂

[wraith vapor]

Or that 🤣. Pretty sure new mechs will be out as well and the new hero appointment feature will be released soon

[cloud ridge]

I forgot about hero appointment

😒

Never ending updates!

[sage girder]

That's what I have as recyclable.

[wraith vapor]

Yup, it's never ending

[sage girder]

I'm all for Collabs but that's definitely too much and too frequent

[wraith vapor]

Yeah collabs are fine but 4 in a year is not

[sage girder]

I agree, collabs should be something you look forward to with at least some anticipation and less a 'Another one ew'

Like Baklava said, yes the item shop is terrific for f2p and low spenders but still

Feels more like a nuisance when it's too frequent

I think the main issue is not with just being too frequent but the fact it outlives previous collabs heroes too fast

[wraith vapor]

Yeah one a year is fine maybe 2 if they really need to do it. 3 month break between them

[sage girder]

Hope you enjoyed this SP rider, check this much cooler one now

[wraith vapor]

Most f2p are tired as well. 6 quit in my allaince this month as its way too overwhelming and too much time required all f2p BTW

[wraith vapor]

Yeah it's not cooler it's a nuisance

[fair plinth]

Lets break this down:

1. Daily tasks are less then 15-30 minutes. doing some intels, sending two trucks, putting deployments and rally a few fiends and recall your farming marches and collect maybe jungle gems.(anothee topic) Trap is every 2nd day and decided to a timeslot where everyone of the alliance is most likely online, so a good alliance event.
   2.For the majortiy players (non spenders) immoral arena is redundant for the rewards cause you will never beat the top 50 and thats ok: spenders paid to be stronger, they should get better rewards there as well.Its Fair.
2. The matchmaking will always be an issue and yet, you will face them based on certain factors. Meaning if you are upper class, you face them and everyone will be always someones prey.
   Back to the Topic of collaborations:.So every collab is actually a filter: higher spenders get more powerfull and its also significantly increases the chances for lower ones to never face them. Its a good system and since the Governor threshold for accepting as failsafe, it keeps lower ones safe and bigger ones out.

[woven spire]

15-30min is super inaccurate

For dailys

Unless you mean from 5 years ago

Even realizing what you need to do and remebering is already 15-30min😂

[wraith vapor]

Its being in game constantly, if you send 2 trucks out, u have to send 2more and then 1 depending on if u have 4/5.
When u send your deployments, u have to collect them as well. Have to login for intel twice atleast so you can keep your stamina right as too much is required for nexus. Fiends and gathering is fine it still take more than an hour. Then u have juicy jackpot or some version of it. If JG is on have to Chekc every 3 hours to see how it's progressing. Trap is every 2 days and nexus is twice a week as well. Then u have RR/ koth every week. Well for most f2p immortal might be redundant but with brackets it might be relevant. However mid spenders will still spend time on it to rank somewhat respectable.
With the collab matching event, every 8 hours your energy is full as a f2p so u need to spend 15 minutes to do it. If you spend and buy energy you are easily talking an hour.
Plus you have a job maybe a kid and family then you are already on borrowed time.
As far as match making goes and your comment, weak will never face strong below is last RR. Left is me and right is our opponent including a second RL.

[wraith vapor]

I agree, have to check like 5 times, if I am forgetting something.

[cloud ridge]

All I'm reading is there's 30 hours worth of stuff to do in a 24 hour day

[wraith vapor]

If we are lucky

[cloud ridge]

[fair plinth]

as you saying by yourself: sometimes you forgot something (can happen) just need to be organized to be Time effective. For example: a parent is preparing meal, turns on the washmachine and things about math homework of their kidos all simultanously within 5 minutes😅
The time amount various of course which events are going on. If pow week is going on, of course the numbers is too low, there are other rewards as well in return.

[fair plinth]

yes, many things. most of them are also just a few clicks .jungle gems is another topic.

[wraith vapor]

Its not few click, it's cumulative effect which we have to consider. I didn't even talk about building roads in nexus, planning for events, strategising, researching, testing as many don't do it and some are tasks for R4. I have to do all of it. Helping your alliance and guiding them on new op features so they can last 20 minutes in RR. It's way too much. So it's easy to say it's a good thing if you don't have anything to do but show up for events and do your stuff. Even then it's a lot. Majority of my alliance is f2p. They are tired and overwhelmed

[woven spire]

the time you state is probally for those casual who login

and log out

😂

[soft gulch]

Thank you ❤

Some people think putting RED, out of style heroes with speops reso gonna win them

Seriously, isn't it clear to ppl that style matters

[cloud ridge]

If you spend enough it doesnt matter, when you fight someone who spends as much as you then having correct formation does matter

[digital glacier]

Were getting goosebumps for Halloween 🙄
Ricky horror picture show 🤷
No wait, it's all misleading text, we're finally getting my pretty pink pony collab

[soft gulch]

Guy is similar level as me stats wise, and he is indeed bigger spender than me for sure

[alpine bridge]

[cloud ridge]

He plays dumb then

Good 😏

My favourite type of whale

[soft gulch]

The difference of defeat is crazy.

So you get 3 specops with red heroes and get undone by someone who is just following style

[stable anvil]

They lost 2 out of 3. Because control just beats 1

[digital glacier]

2019-2021 we knew there was pretty much going to be hq skin event that lasted 7 days.
An anniversary event and a longer or back to back Xmas new years event.
You could play 20 minutes maybe 2 times a day and be set. Those were the days.
Added some mining mayhem and other stuff so now you average 1-1.5 hours a day
Then they added world event seasons and have changed that format from 12 weeks with 4 weeks off to 10 weeks with 2 weeks off.
Adding more events to force players to play. More buildings to upgrade constantly to compete
Then you needed at least 2 hours.

And collabs that were fun, as time has gone on, they have become less fun and more consistent.
Then you needed about 3 hours a day to keep up.
Then they do it all
Add pets, behemoths, tempests, collab, world event, hq skin event, every time restricted event you can think of, multiple events that require you to log in every 6 hours.
Then you needed about 12 hours a day to do everything.
But. On the very last day when all of the stuff comes to an end. You have to check the 8675309 event pages and popups for claiming rewards and then the 2019 different shops to make sure nothing gets recycled to rss or skin tickets. And for that, you need 100 hours in the day to do it.

All because sos has one of the absolute worst, most hideous, atrociously horrible layouts ever.

People say we have had 4 collabs this year alone, it feels like more and also it feels like we have had 1 collab that's never ended with a new hero or multiple heroes to discover every few months 😂 And from Funplus announcement, there's another one in the horizon, which, will basically feel like terminator never really ended 🤣😂😭 and it'll be a new hero or multiple heroes to discover.
And heaven forbid actually trying to get much of the hero completion done during a collab for free, Unless you can afford no sleep, have no job or a job that you don't do F-all. You're not getting it very high.

They keep adding more events, most time restricted for absolutely no reason other than to punish players who can't meet the games schedule.
I know a lot of good people who enjoyed the game but quit specifically because they couldn't keep taking time away from real life to play the time restricted events and keep up with the necessary demand of these constant repeat events. Some even had desk jobs, but forget it if you work any kind of labor trades job.

That's where I'm at honestly.
Do what I can when I can. If it gets done, it gets done if not F it. At this rate, and some point I'll quit because it's just not worth it anymore to continue playing. I'll never be able to keep up with sos paced events at the rate they continue to want.
screenshot was a few days ago

[cloud ridge]

I like it when you beat those people though, they spent £££ on x thing and your sitting with some much weaker version but as you've set up correctly you'll womp them or least beat by a little bit

[cloud ridge]

We all know, it'll get worse. Just when you reach the breaking point, its gotten to a point I dont play or do all events and will often forget them.

[digital glacier]

I'm already selectively not participating in some events because there's not enough time

I remember a time I could work a 16 hr day and finish all events.
Im lucky if I can do it working 8rs now 😂

Red blocks estimated cost
3 years for the garage to be finished 🙄

Bro, I been playing more than 3 years.
Lemme buy out those tickets 🙄

A 3 year long feature gets released 4 - 5 years into the game 🙄

[cloud ridge]

I stopped with garage, only get mansion

To be fair, given they did one good thing with decos it makes whole thing redundant

Unless your first to get to 2nd floor if it exists and you'll get the winning prize of a maxed out account

[soft gulch]

My mansion is named Bruhthel Zombina

1 floor, 1 garage.

[candid raptor]

Devs want your money, but you can't blame it only on them but also on whales with their bad habit of spending thousands of dollars every week on d2 pixels, and keep growing funplus bank accounts

[digital glacier]

So annihilation awaits is time restricted because?

Because of whales?

[candid raptor]

Most likely yes.. they want you to spend more and more and whales do.. so they restrict stuff
But I am talking about the spending requirement, I remember back in the days I could get a full Christmas set for 300$ now a days you need over 5k $

[digital glacier]

There's one of these in
Path of secrets
Rewrite the future
Mega vendo
Bounty blast
Abyssal treasure
Blissful bags
Mech initiative
New Gen hero initiative
Ac-04 thunderbolt initiative

Skynet manual is a different layout but pretty much the same thing, and another of this type in rewrite the future

It's not about the bundle offers but the fact is so not user friendly when they have all the same tasks.
Kill some friends and have to visit each one. Cause sometimes they start on different days for some unknown reason.

All this crap could be in 1 page. With 20 different rows.
But na. It's on 11 instead.

Plus 1 more when the tickets event thing is in the bundle tab

It's like devs building a puzzle and they put all the outer edge pieces in the groups based on shape

[candid raptor]

Humans are greedy

[digital glacier]

If asking for convenience is greedy, than by all means, I'm very greedy 😂

[soft gulch]

Whales are tickled by other whales which are often seeded acs

Everything works so beautifully in this game.

Whales find a nemesis, that nemesis is a seeded player

He makes the whale spend like crazy, his state constantly shows up against the state our real whale is in

Whale's ego is thoroughly stroked by nemesis, by winning leaderboards

Whale gets a game-girlfriend

She is from indonesia of course

Whale is now spending money on two accounts

Girlfriend keep massaging whale's ego, to make him spend more and more

The girlfriend is also seeded

Whale realizes he had been played but.... But it can't be

[digital glacier]

Once upon a time
Obi was unbeatable
We fought obi in svs
Obi lost.
We broke obi
Fast forward 6 months
You don't remember a time Obi was not top 10 in any event or all states leaderboard.

To this day, we're not sure if my state created a monster or not 😂

[soft gulch]

It's that easy yeah

[wraith vapor]

U must have been a great student when it came to essay questions 🤣🤣🤣

[wraith vapor]

Does this actually do anything? I have never even looked at it 🤣

[tepid rivet]

So I blame you for OBI 🤣

But he's living happily ever after now

[digital glacier]

I did help the whales in my state with strategy and formations. So, you can exactly blame me. Obi was already a monster.

[tepid rivet]

He was multiplying, that was even worse

[digital glacier]

There are some milestones for unlocking certain rooms and garage plots. The last couple between the garage and rooms have those special upgrade decoration, frames items.

Its been 70 weeks since sos introduced mansion. But not sure when vip items actually came available. And how much items were actually in those bundles if any whales bought them.
So not sure if there's new or more milestones that appear when 2nd floor unlocks or if there's like a garage 2 room area 🤷

[wraith vapor]

Does it give u just decoration items or stats are also associated with it?

[wraith vapor]

So no stats just items cool, thanks a lot 😊

[alpine bridge]

[cloud ridge]

Sooo, I need to become whales girlfriend?

[wet tusk]

The whale quit ?! Or still playing

[digital glacier]

Why sos stingy at offering breeding catalyst in shops 🙄

[fallow flower]

Mmm... Pearl Store prices still haven't changed. That's disappointing.

[stable anvil]

Yeah im looking at the FO and red crystals

[fallow flower]

I thought it was because of the anniversary event. //But it seem that they decided to raise it on their own.

[stable anvil]

Its ridiculous truly. They have no sense of shame

[fallow flower]

So writing a report is just a joke, it doesn't change anything.

[thorny plume]

Gets it off your chest at best

This thing tough, feels a bit out of synch. The people with all them sentinels very likely have their behemoths snd oldest vehicles maxed. I dunno

[stable anvil]

Idk how this was chosen but i believe i saw the farthest left one with 6 digit numbers in our state range or whatever range it goes up to

Shizuka had more votes

[stable anvil]

Well we did report and they changed plasma

Just need to keep persisting for other matters like FO system and pearls and the fact that they removed monkey parts when players have not event maxed them out or can use them to convert to MK0 PARTS

[stable anvil]

Nope

Still like to have more biobatteries and such and vehicle parts to max gen 1

[digital glacier]

My page shows someone else

[digital glacier]

Correct.
Eleanor didn't win.
Your screen might be stuck on them.
My screen was stuck on someone else until a moment ago.
Then it played a 5 second rock video with buzz. And shows Mia as winner I think 😂

[fallow flower]

Nice... I hope they do the rest.

[digital glacier]

Your Eleanor shows 3.
But Mia ever so slightly passed her for 3. 😂
But why it shows 3 and not 1 🤷

[stable anvil]

Yeah see farthest left

[digital glacier]

Didn't even know buzz was a contestant 😂

[stable anvil]

Thats the one i been sending everything to

Let me restart and check again

Nope still showing Eleanor

[stable anvil]

Guess devs are like yeah you can vote blah blah blah but we decided Eleanor or whatever

[digital glacier]

You wanna see something crazy 😜

Can we please remove the limitation for 120,000 platinum coins limit.

[stable cosmos]

Can i also please draw all the draws at once and not do it in 10 spin blocks while you're at it

[digital glacier]

^ I agree with that if platinum coin limit is removed

Remove 120,000 limit of platinum coins

Replace ×1 & ×10 with USE ALL button.
Simple, Easy, Faster, Player friendly
^ 4 things sos doesn't know about

[stable cosmos]

I don't get the limit. Do they really think that this being gone would allow f2p to catch up at all with a whale? Wouldn't get close

[stable anvil]

Wow you been saving up

You spending on those raid tickets?

[digital glacier]

@stable anvil

Yeah, let's say that for this servers sake 😂

[stable anvil]

Mighty sussy

[soft gulch]

The PG13 answer is all you can be is a chaperone or a cheerleader, unless you overcome some biological disadvantages

[digital glacier]

Check your dm

[thorny hornet]

Why is Storm arena replacing my marches when i go to reorder them?

[digital glacier]

Here's a bit more of a list for you

[zealous crystal]

whale... wat is a whale?

[wide wraith]

because the event is a waste of time and it thinks it knows better than you

[robust frost]

“whale” refers to a player who spends a large amount of real money on in game purchases.

[zealous crystal]

ah... then i am a minnow lol

[wide wraith]

ok why is Storm Arena replacing my heros, is it cheating or part of a fix, first image is the marches the game selects, 2nd image is the ones i want to select

talk about a cheating game

Storm Arena should be removed, until it works properly OR is this how its been designed to work???

[alpine bridge]

[jolly harness]

If everything needs to be removed until it works properly we are left with only the bundle shop

[wide wraith]

true but the blatant cheating of the game should be addressed even if its just by a CM

[cursive vessel]

Its probably bugged, cause that happens. Happens all the time really 😂

[wide wraith]

looks like it happened to others as well, any company worth its salt would want things to work properly

[sage girder]

I am not saying you are wrong and this is a full bugless arena because that would be not true, but can you try playing with the edit button when attacking?

Putting formation aside in the march configuration screen and trying to adjust the edit button marches when attacking.

[cursive vessel]

Obviously it's happened to others cause it's clearly got a bug of some sort.
You've been here long enough to know that they don't care enough to release things without bugs in them.

[sage girder]

Oh it's 100% a bug, I am trying to help with a work around

[wide wraith]

well yeah i know but as this is supposed to be a discussion, its key to know if this is a one off bug, in which case i can just ignore it, OR its by design, in which case I can just ignore the events

[sage girder]

Just I don't understand why it's not a uniform bug because I only had the horrible random heroes setup but other than that my formation once fixed was same

[wide wraith]

and it might be arena now but what happens if the same happens in KotH

[sage girder]

I mean USUALLY one bug is not affecting the mechanics of other unrelated buggy events

[cursive vessel]

😂 other unrelated buggy events

[sage girder]

Being realistic

[wide wraith]

true but when they auto set marches in koTH they miss a lot out like the second behemoth

[sage girder]

I never trust auto set stuff.
But KOTH tends to keep the last set marches

[wide wraith]

in which case i should have had both behemoths in

[sage girder]

Should in theory yes... Devs are full of surprises

Although it is supposed to be Halloween soon and not Easter, they do love hiding secret easter bugs around..
Do let me know please if you managed to fix the formation settings issue

[wide wraith]

like events that dont work, lol

[sage girder]

If I recall in apex you had two formations, the defense and offense one and if you upgraded the offense, you needed to adjust the defense as well

(dumb I know but that's how it was)

So there is a chance it's here the same

[wide wraith]

no as i tried to edit, hit save, it went back to the march they selected, i havent use turtles in ages, after all they give more wounded and are not even in consideration for my top marches

[sage girder]

Can you please record it? Sounds like the same bug this player has
#🐞︱bugs-discussion message

I just personally don't have it so I can't repeat it

[wide wraith]

its a strange bug to describe

[sage girder]

I will try to help you describe it if you like

[wide wraith]

it seems to only bug when trying to change were the styles are to match those of the opponent

i think its because it sets 6 different marches although can only edit 3

[sage girder]

If you could video record it

[wide wraith]

could but there is a work around move then come out, and go back

that or after 5 dont bother lol

[sage girder]

I would appreciate at least the basic video of setting up a march but having a different one on attacking if you are willing

[wide wraith]

will see if i can remember how to do it lol,

[charred swift]

Will there be an anniversary event this year?

[soft gulch]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

<@&628563208164081690>s please make sure this feedback reaches devs

[grave warren]

We can't "truly" do what you asked, but we all together (as players and user from this discord) could share a feedback for increase the up vote who it have, so it will reach the top 10 for get an answers from devs, but it's up to the company if they will decide or not, to listen it, cause they could choice who isn't what they desire for the game, and refuse to implement the feedback, in any case our team collect all the suggest, the top 10 feedback it's just for get and answer from company

[cloud ridge]

I thought all feedback was sent to devs 👀

[cursive vessel]

It's supposed to be

[cloud ridge]

So mods lie to us

[warped meadow]

I don’t know what you have been told or by whom you were told specifically. But imagine for a moment the developers of this game pouring through every individual feedback that comes through this server.

If the feedback receives support from the server and a high number of players are in favor of it, it reaches them that is my understanding. And that makes sense.

So in conclusion. Support feedback that you want to reach them.

Any further inquiries on this topic can be placed in a ticket to leadership. #🚨︱contact_an_lmod

[cloud ridge]

That was such a weird reply

[cursive vessel]

Well, a mod (more than one) has told us that all feedback gets sent. So, who's lying?

And why?

[alpine bridge]

[grave warren]

I think there is a bit of confusion, not sure if it's related with my message or not...
Our department collect everywhere feedbacks from players in all different platform related to the game... so everyone who give an idea everywhere on the official platform of the game, we try to make his voice heard collecting the feedback.
I've said after who only the top 10 feedback up voted here, since it's how the system of feedback works, get an answer from the company about it, not like the others isn't saw from them, it's just only the top 10 up voted according to the feedback sistem procedure on discord get a direct answer

[full rampart]

[cloud ridge]

We always get contradictory answers

Nothing new

[full rampart]

To add to my comod, our mods collect thousands of lines of feedbacks from the feedback reporting and the other channels in the server.

It would be impossible to get a response for each line

[cloud ridge]

Not like it makes any change in long run

Devs only reply to what they want and will make up feedback itself to suit their agenda

[cursive vessel]

I understand the whole top 10 thing, not that they answer them either these days

[full rampart]

Sadly, i get what you mean, i wish we got more precise answers, but we are definitely happy we at least get the top 10 answers

[full rampart]

Yes our amazing information lead mod is pushing a lot for these answers and we hope to see them returning them weekly

[cloud ridge]

Like Lana said, I wouldn't even say we get top 10 answers, let alone anything to do with top 10, often its something completely random and outside the top 10

[grave warren]

This is true, that wait time ago, I've suggest to complain about that attitude too, but considering who sometime there isn't always an answer on everything, plus silence is an answer too, so we could give an interpretation on the silence of a feedback as a refuse from the company about that idea, this doesn't mean who we can't re-do the feedback about it up voting again and making it go back again to the company direct answering an answer on it instead just silence, remarking who it reached the top 10 in a previous time

[cloud ridge]

Also

[cursive vessel]

Dev feedback has been shocking of late and it's not even worth the time sending it

[cloud ridge]

There's a difference in what we've stated, we've asked and been told all feedback gets submitted to devs, not we've been told or least far as I recall haven't been told devs reply to each one.

So its a tad contradictory

[grave warren]

One moment please

[cloud ridge]

[grave warren]

The problem is how it's wrote this message?

[cloud ridge]

Your 1st sentence literally says you can't do as we've asked which goes against what we've been told

I dont have a personal issue with said message overall

But its another flip flop

Only top 10 feedback gets sent to dev, all feedback gets sent to devs, only feedback submitted on Wednesdays get sent to devs

[grave warren]

We can't tell nothing to devs cause we have no way to communicate to them, we can't say to company "Look this feedback" in particular, we can just send all the feedback who we collect

[grave warren]

Only top 10 get an answer

[cloud ridge]

Do I expect them to reply to each one, nope

[cloud ridge]

Again

You're not reading it right

There's a difference between feedback being submitted and feedback being replied to

Your saying not all feedback is submitted

[grave warren]

No, i am not saying that

[cloud ridge]

We're not asking for a reply, just that it gets sent to devs

A reply would be nice sure

[cloud ridge]

Your first sentence literally states that

[grave warren]

No it doesn't state that

[cloud ridge]

Yes

[grave warren]

It mean this

[cloud ridge]

It does

So why bother saying feedback gets sent to devs when now your saying you have no way of communicating with them

Does all feedback gets sent to devs, yes or no.

[grave warren]

Okay, for a better and complete "information" I will edit that message, since someone could understand something different from what it real mean

[full rampart]

May i clear this out?

[cloud ridge]

Go for it

Cause mod aint helping himself

[cursive vessel]

I was lead to believe that all feedback (good or bad) is sent but top 10 gets a reply.
Which is fine cause nobody expects a reply to everything 🤣

[full rampart]

All feedbacks from the channels and feedback reporting get collected by a part of our mod team into a document the developers and cms have access

[full rampart]

Yes that’s exactly what happens

Not all mods are handling feedbacks collection

[cloud ridge]

So, all feedback is sent to devs correct?

Not, all feedback is replied to.

[full rampart]

Yes

We don’t speak with them like a chat, or a group, but we send the feedback and bug documentation to them, and they have access to everything

[cloud ridge]

Now, why was that so hard and why even say we cannot truly do whats we're asking when all that was being asked is the feedback reaches the devs

[full rampart]

I thonk that’s what the mod meant with the communication with them, we don’t have direct “chat”

[cursive vessel]

That's fair enough, I don't expect mods to be on first name friendly terms with devs 😂

[cloud ridge]

Poor choice of words

[cloud ridge]

I doubt the devs themselves are even on that basis with eachother

[full rampart]

Im friend with Akash if that counts

[cursive vessel]

That's close enough to count 🤣

[full rampart]

Yes i apologise for this, not everyone has english as main language so sometimes wording can create confusion.

Im not a native speaker also

[cloud ridge]

You dont have to apologise

Just need a clear answer and not flip flops

[kindred bough]

sorry the info lmod is in Dublin visiting her brother couldn't help earlier yes dats me

Just adding up to Tallie and all my amazing comods, in a nutshell we have system for feedback and bugs yes we collect everything in channels and yes the company and Cms have access to them all. Top10 is whats the most popular topics are and what we normally get answers for although that doesn’t feel fair but I think you can imagine the amount of feedback on daily basis posted here and on different platforms as well so really having answers to everything is almost impossible although we wish we do..

I will speak on behalf of Tallie regarding the apologies because using different wording can cause such a situation, and no flip flops in here please

[cloud ridge]

I should stay quiet

But i cant

We've not asked for a reply, We've asked if it gets sent to them

That is all

The sending has been confirmed

The replying we understand

Dno why the whole usually only top 10 gets replied to keeps coming up when original question was making sure feedback was sent to devs

[digital glacier]

13 days and dozens of reopening closed chats they they didn't want to give me my item, it's a bit much don't you think 🙄

[wet tusk]

He is definitely a Suspect

[full rampart]

They gave me my 45 morale also yesterday

[full rampart]

[digital glacier]

You chunky now

[digital glacier]

I love the feedback system.
This feedback made it and it's got a ratio of 6:1 😂
Where as others are like 19:1 😂
#1414283151391592660 message

The whole thing idiotic

They should have an option for
Move alliance.
And alliance members donate tickets to a "pot" and that "pot" covers everyone in the transfer.

And I literally mean, move alliance. The entire hq and all.

But sos probably too dumb to know how to do that 😂

[limber sparrow]

I agree but moving the hq and towers would make 0 sense i think

The chances of there being enough space to fill ur whole hive is like 0.0009%

i could submit a feedback for u if youd like though!

[digital glacier]

No. Lol.
Have to rebuild everything. Like a state merge.
The same method they use to transfer alliances in merge, use for transfer alliances of players in state transfer.

Only difference would be.
Transfer tickets.

[limber sparrow]

Ohhhh

That makes a lot more sense, yeah that feature would be so amazing

Finding an alliance with maxed tech is a pain

[queen vortex]

Tbh the "nice" thing to do would be to let people recycle the t800 frags to crates since the 10x surcharge was totally unexpected. Anyone else feels same.

[thorny plume]

Hmmm why is people pushing this operation festival like crazy

Rewards are on throwdown level soon. Wings and some regular cat you can get for far far less and same amount of statues youd get from a jungle gems. Makes no sense to me.

[thorny plume]

Yea, that one was rhe curveball tbh. Its always a curveball

[queen vortex]

I would have swallowed a 2x surcharge but 10x wtf it’s like a clear scam no?

[thorny plume]

Its not a scam but its whale catering in hope they will spend fortunes

Which many will. But that also means for most of us this collab ended weeks ago

A option to choose or something be nice. I do choose to not spend on it. Thats also a solution.

[jolly harness]

Why are you close to top100 tho

[zealous crystal]

its the whales that keep the game going for us minnows

[thorny plume]

Had to push behemoth building a couple levels for prep and used a few pearls to get stuff I need later for prep 🙂 I usually do 40 50k in entire event, same as some have done in this stage alone. I could understand it if the rewards was worth it. Top 100 isnt worth it in OF imo. For a measle statue

[digital glacier]

Lot of alts can score some good points on one of the days. I wouldn't be surprised with EP OF SVS matching events if some alts are top 50 now but gonna drop to 1000+ by the time it's over 😂

I have an alt that ain't used 1 BIOBATTERY or mk1 MK2 frag 😂
That's a lot of points 😂

But I not gonna do it

[soft gulch]

Always for the wings...

Earlier ang/selena locate frags were there but wings are top draw

[limber sparrow]

How is this @fluid fox

Observation:in the super tycoon event, after the event ends the limited exchange store closes.

Consequences:some players might not notice the deadline of when the store closes, and lose the option to purchase items they would like.

Solution:make it so that the limited store stays after the event ends just like the lucky exchange store.

Its up for upvote now #📋︱feedback-reporting message thank u for ur help

[naive vapor]

Hallo, könntet ihr mich hier bitte auch rauswerfen, wie aus der Allianz!!!!!
Danke da für 🫡

[stable cosmos]

They need to make up their mind across all events. Some have a grace period. Others a hard stop.

Choose one. Grace period would be best cos sometimes you continue to earn currency right up to the end, at which point you can't spend it. Except if there was a grace period, suddenly that extra 200 you earned puts you at over 4000 currency and you can buy something neat rather than meh

[tropic galleon]

After wastage of more than 350 clovers I only got 18×T800 training frags,anyway it is still useless to me even if it was 1000 frags because purchase is blocked for my country and I never can locate T800

I was wondering how much the rationing would be if they let us recycle them

[woeful hemlock]

Agree, I have 25 frags extra

[jolly harness]

Is it just me or is the material collection race progress been shortened A LOT

First SVS into this season and i reached the ending already

[woeful hemlock]

same

[jolly harness]

Nvm

i just see it will refresh now

5 days left

Another thing they will milk hard

[woeful hemlock]

but then u have to buy the bundle again to unlock

[jolly harness]

yup

exacly

[woeful hemlock]

[soft gulch]

No one is getting milked on mk1 batteries. I hope.

[cloud ridge]

They turned a migo long "event" into a weekly one?

[jolly harness]

they never refreshed this during migo, now suddenly they do, and i wanne bet after every SVS again.... that makes 25€ for 3 months into 75€ for the whole migo

3 times as much, but less useable rewards

because lets be honest, people who buy the 1999 pack... have monkey maxed by now

[cloud ridge]

We should buy it to support the devs then given this must have clearly been a feedback from us to change

[soft gulch]

i used to buy it when it used to be materials worth 170 behe crates + lot of plasma

[woeful hemlock]

No I haven't maxed my monkey🥹

f2p

[jolly harness]

i'm sure i have you seen have spec ops heroes

[wet tusk]

Lots of free to pay players here

Good morning 😊

[wet tusk]

I didn’t buy this pass for 2 MIGOs now , glad I started early

[jolly harness]

up until last migo it was kinda worth it

[sleek moth]

Yea unfortunately, because spending any amount is useless. Those who spend big already maxed all

[wet tusk]

MIGO was worth it too

[jolly harness]

WAS

[wet tusk]

That is Key word , WAS

[stable cosmos]

Was this popular enough the first time to be brought back?

[wide wraith]

in a word no

[cursive vessel]

No

[stable anvil]

Some people spent on it because it gave those special hq and their effects

[wet tusk]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

upvote if you agree please

[muted terrace]

[wide wraith]

you dont get troop loss from Nexus, to calculate any different any lost outside of nexus at CC and SVS need to be taken into account

[wet tusk]

I will be happy if they give us healing

But yes all lost troops should be taken into account and added

[wide wraith]

they cant or wont do that, the snapshot they use before Nexus starts gives a set number of troops any trained in the Nexus adds to both but any lost outside the Nexus only applies to those outside

[halcyon zodiac]

Where the f is apex arena.

[muted terrace]

changed to Storm Arena (aka Bug arena)

[wide wraith]

hopefully its in the bin where storm should be