📋︱feedback-discussion

[stray acorn]

[thorny plume]

😂 but dont get me wrong, im a member of the stab movement.

[stray acorn]

stab paul and receive cookie

[thorny plume]

Lol I cant, KoB carries state

[stray acorn]

but u can have cookie!

Dis cookie!

[sage girder]

I am not pro stabbing people nor I encourage it... but.. COOKIES?

[sage girder]

I don't think it's snickers

[stray acorn]

look at those noice marshmallows omg

[thorny plume]

That cookie looked good tough

[stray acorn]

I have more 👀

[crude stratus]

I'm gonna ouch you in ptr

[stray acorn]

I'm stronk

[crude stratus]

Not stronk enough

[stray acorn]

the power of cookie will protect me

[crude stratus]

[stray acorn]

[spark kindle]

Gib

[spark kindle]

GIB

[stray acorn]

all yours omg

[spark kindle]

[grand summit]

4 gems in a row when with the main account I end up at level 25-29 and with the second, much weaker account, regularly 31-35 and recently even 36. Now on the main account I am at level 25, since the reset I only got caps, on the second account I am lvl 31 and I get every a few hours bombs and other useful items. I also thought about it, that it is not a matter of luck but of some algorithm. It's funny, I got 13 bombs on my alt today. 3x3 and now 4 bombs😅

[shut talon]

Wtf is that gross looking thing ?

[zealous scroll]

This is crazy luck. All 5 accounts got all coins and bios and magnifying glass lol

[shut talon]

That's all I've had since I've not level 21

Having to slowly progress by using coins to buy the vertical and horizontal bombs

[stray acorn]

[tardy night]

It says Snickers at the bottom. Must be Snickers

No more fish then?

[tepid rivet]

It's fish in disguise

It was a 3000% value offer, she had to buy

[vale yoke]

@stray acorn

Gib?

[insert obligatory dev chat and goat post here]

[tepid rivet]

Oh... no....

[vale yoke]

I miss him.

[digital glacier]

Cerbacôn

[coarse verge]

Sima , Share or I will take your fish

[vale yoke]

Nah, we chat all the time. That's my home slice right there.

If I could have a best mate I've never met, it's that guy. No lie.

[digital glacier]

Nobody ever picks me 😞

[tepid rivet]

Game picked you in immortal arena for me

If that counts

[digital glacier]

I haven't set my marches, so there's that 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Played apex once. Not very seriously. Never again. Nothing fun about it at all.

Jesus that fiend intel is trash. Why is it there. Chef frags. Rusty frags. Maddie frags. I don't need to hit many fiends in a day for dailies but i get 4-6 fiend intels that i suddenly HAVE to do to open up normal intel that gives me plasma

[tepid rivet]

Just do your 3 fiends a day whenever your intel refreshes. It will count towards fiend intel

(One at a time)

[cloud ridge]

in a way it saves stamina, given it replaced hero explore intel

but also is useless yes

[stable cosmos]

Oh it does count certainly. But thats not really the point. I get more fiend intel than i need for dailies, i get worse stuff for the fiend intel and i have to do them to open up regular intel as its sometimes blocked by fiends.

Ever since they introduced intel help, intel has been a little busted with hiding stuff you want to do behind other things. Its been very badly done

[cursive vessel]

Fiend intel / help intel wouldn't be so bad if it was worth doing but the rewards are dire

[vernal moss]

The random placement of the icons in intel is atrocious, frankly. The overlapping is painful, especially in cases as you explained that an icon you want is underneath a useless one. Relocating sometimes causes these all to bunch in one corner too.

The way around is to use the intel search function but definitely not preferred.
I'd actually like to help put a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it if you'd like me to?
Can credit you happily if you'd like.

[vernal moss]

While we have the additional stamina as migo is away; it's nice to go for a couple extra fiends if you have it spare to get more tactical guides, may be random and sometimes low numbers but it adds up.

[pallid willow]

When does the doomsday registration starts exactly?

[stable anvil]

Next week

Or maybe it will be this week after a few days in

[soft gulch]

so new mini game....purfect jam

nice rewards but dont see any free drops of picks at all

i think f2p will not even get past level 5

Sentinel crate at level 60

[stable anvil]

Free daily drops each day

[soft gulch]

how can be there are mo free drops at alll....

[pallid willow]

I don't have that

[stable anvil]

a free reward is available daily from the kitten

[harsh owl]

You know serial positioning yah?
The top 6 events (vera & nara, bounty blast, purrfect jam, lucky slots, blissful bag and the now ended feeding frenzy) are not for F2P. They do this often.

Some would argue Lucky Slots is the exception to the rule but then take a look at the cost of skins or buying any serious amount of items from the growth tab. The idle rewards are high to get you just close enough in coin accumulation where you think "if I just buy a few bundles" maybe, maybe...

Check your bank statement

[pallid willow]

Omggg why do their dumb updates take so long, idiots gonna say is my 12gb ram who csnt take such a high profile game 💀

[digital glacier]

What state you from Michelle?

[digital glacier]

Is it biocaps 🤣

[stable cosmos]

What on EARTH is this?

Which survey prompted this monstrosity into the game. Its not even an actual puzzle game. All the cat stuff really needs to go be its own property.

[digital glacier]

It's mastermind with a cat and jam 🤣

[stable cosmos]

I can't use the expletives needed to explain the non-gameplay that this has

[pallid willow]

It's fkn stucked 😑😑😑

[digital glacier]

I wonder if there gonna be feedback to name change the event because people like jelly more than jam 😂

[digital glacier]

It's probably trying to do a really huge file and it don't change until it's done.
Or it's a corrupt file that's having trouble 🤷

[pallid willow]

And how to fix it

[digital glacier]

Usually a few restarts can do it.

Or.
Usually you can delete the "R" folder.
That's most often where the issues are.
But that's only if you can navigate the folders.

There's just 1 of their massive files that's constantly changing in size.

That's not shown in your screenshot though.

Its not shown at all anywhere.

The game downloads more than what it shows you it downloads.

And you still not answer me 😔 what state you in?

[pallid willow]

I hadn't updated trash game so i guess i see new event after this trash is done but trash doesn't download

There it is trash trash trash game

[digital glacier]

So, when exactly do I get to spend my tokens 🤷

This thing based on local time or something 🤷😂🤣

[pallid willow]

Do you guys think we gonna get another jungle gems within these 6 days?

[pallid willow]

I was wondering same thing 😑😑 I don't even understand why is closed at all

[tame jackal]

probably in the last 3 days

[sage berry]

It is open lmao

[pallid willow]

So we can't play pow cause trash is broken and closes the game how great

[tame jackal]

[normal nacelle]

First the update of TOS on Sept 10 2024 and new Parental Guideline TOS and now Jan 1 -TOS, Privacy and Parental guidelines all updated again - no notification again. No player would ever think to go and check regularly where these are buried in the menu - is there no responsibility to notify 1) of an updates and 2) what's changed

this question wasnt answered in Sept either #📋︱feedback-discussion message

[pallid willow]

Seriously tho? Why they win wtf

[radiant garnet]

Not cool

I’ve had 2 games go through but unable to play… after time runs out it says I’ve played none. Submitted a ticket but idk if that does anything

[stable cosmos]

I don't think random updates to the privacy policy apply unless the user also genuinely accepts them. Doubt that one holds up if it comes to a court case. You can't change things in the background an imply that prior acceptance = current acceptance.

This company is nuts, it really is

[torpid gazelle]

Where are hero challenges? Shouldn’t have closed until at least the 13th like was released.

[unreal lichen]

stuck at lvl 4, it over for me

[soft gulch]

This game clearly belongs to this lineage:
Jungle gems
Fishing
Mining

and it doenst have idle rewards. haha.
Its pay to win, you will prolly get to evel 10, if they give picks tomoow.

[keen narwhal]

useless event, they are making any event a pay to win now

[bright crypt]

Hello! We have one feedback about the event here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message
feel free to upvote if you agree

[unreal lichen]

I was hoping they would add idle time, similar to jungle gems

[still tapir]

My two accounts plus a few other are at this exact same spot. Same level with one jam found. Completely rigged

[unreal lichen]

it a new event, should give them time. remember how they mess up fishing tycoon by give tons of bios instead bait?

[normal nacelle]

if they had tested it..and took the feedback and made changes prior to release probably would have been more successful

[unreal lichen]

unfortunately dev didn't release purrect jam in ptr, so player have ptr access can't give feedback to them

[pallid willow]

Pow still broken?

[stable cosmos]

Mine says 1 token needed to place jam. I have 1 token. Message is not enough tokens. Event is busted

[thorny hornet]

looks like one side occupied fortress buildings whihle other side never left home base. no attacks, but one side scored 1400 needed points

[thorn axle]

It’s how the event works, it doesn’t take into count the paws correctly, you have one paw so you should only be able to place one jar

I have 2 paws and I can only place 2 jars

It removes the paw from the count when you complete that level

[stable cosmos]

That is not at all how anything should behave and doesn't even deserve benefit of the doubt. The game says i need 1 token. I have 1 token. If i need more than 1 token it should be saying you need 2x tokens. Please don't defend their incompetence.

[thorn axle]

I’m not defending anything, I’m explaining how it actually works, it says cost per jam not cost per game, and it removes from the paw count when the game/level is done

Do I like it? No because I’d rather it remove from the count when I place a jar instead of completing the level

[stable cosmos]

I have 1 jam to go. The game says 1 token per jam. I have 1 token.

[thorn axle]

When you tap on the pink jar it’ll bring it back to the front and you’ll still have one paw

Your count needs to be 2 to be able to use both pink and yellow

The paw counted for the red has already been deducted

[stable cosmos]

Oh i see. Thats stupid. But what in this game isn't these days.

Sorry about that.

[thorn axle]

Don’t worry about it, I racked my brain for about 15 minutes wondering why I couldn’t place my third jar until I realised I can bring them back to the front

And I only had 2 paws

[pallid willow]

Remove dumb trash premades teams in pow already.

[soft gulch]

you have PoW on? we dont.
and you didnt get this P2W event?

[soft gulch]

im sorry, thats incredibly stupid.

[pallid willow]

Turns out i had forgotten to update the game so it appeared now🙈 yes we have pow but maybe cause is week after svs

[soft gulch]

its week after svs for us as well. 🤔
may be cuz we have merge and transfers on. merge will start in 1hr or so.

[pallid willow]

Oh yea is probably that we dont havemerge

[harsh owl]

Local time shown on your comment is 09:41 AM.

Did you try after 19 minutes? I just came back from the grocery store and just finished using my coins. Should be open for you now as well.

[harsh owl]

Since you mentioned an earlier problem with an update, I'm guessing it might be related to that.

Just finished 2 games, POW is working as usual on my end.

[pallid willow]

Nah it was after i updated

They fix it later on

[soft gulch]

Had one random thought about upcoming Pets breeding:

They should've made it interesting.
Doberman can mate with Wolf (same genus) - Result Siberian Husky pup or Jackals pup
Cat can mate with Tiger (same genus) - Result Cheetah or Leopard pup

Basis Quality of parents (SSSS to DDDD) and result the Attribs and SKills upgrade/downgrade or change.

[stable cosmos]

Or or or, they could not do this feature at all

Just another money sink in the end and i hate the idea of giving them new features to widen the gap further, for free, that they can make money off.

[harsh owl]

I like this random thought. Seems like it would be a great feature for the devs to have placed some Easter Eggs.

That said, a little to Cyan's comment, if I had a choice to have this or not, I'd have gone with not.

F+ really really needs to try to get back to the origins of the game.

Did someone tell them we were sick of zombies and a global apocalypse? The genre never gets old.

[soft gulch]

we would be naive to think that they won't do anything at all.
they would of course.

but i would like them to create a long-tail content than money-hat quickies they are dropping so often these days, for example MK1 and 2 Behemoths, done superbly, Materials and events were dropped across 3-4 MIGOs. Continued with MK3 chicken, Companion 1 was abruptly cut short.

Same goes for Aircrafts and FS. A lot of stuff was given out free, still drops free via trucks, and can be gotten via PoW, Desert.

Moneyhats like the concept of Pet itself was abhoring, It was a rehash of Vehicles system, albeit far too restricted(not tied to troop-type but specific to heroes), there is no criss cross amongst Pets or Animals which heroes are acoompnying. In the end the whole battle is played on excelsheet and whales maxing out things ahve far greater advantages but adding these nuances make technical players feel that there is a smart passage here.

@stable cosmos ^^

[stable cosmos]

I really don't want to give them methods of pushing stupid stuff for money to increase power. I'd prefer to see a push from players for a better experience. Making the gap wider or increasing monetary requirements isn't the way to go imo.

If they want to do that, they should come up with it themselves. Our suggestions should be about improving our own situation within what they've come up with

We do enough dev work for nothing even if some of the feedback is... sub optimal

[soft gulch]

This is precisely what I am suggesting.
Pets are here, Pets breeding is here.

The depth I expect is not here. There is no long-tail game.
One could write, "give 5 intels per day for pets materials. FP agrees to it, and then what.
Your core experience remains quite underwhelming.

[cursive vessel]

I don't even know anyone who wanted to breed pets in the first place 🤷‍♀️

[soft gulch]

---

I think this is where a lot of people will disagree with me.
I dont have problems with power-gap or such.
I have problem with lack of depth and rehashing, not explaining things which I want to understand.

The game is designed in a way that Whales can swipe their credit card and do upgrades worth what an F2P would do with free materials in 6 months.

Is it bad? Yes it is predatory.
But thats how Freemium 4X games are designed, it is not your classic stratergy or RPG game

[rocky otter]

What a wonderful day today 🥳

[cursive vessel]

There's power gap and then there's a gap like this that totally goes beyond a gap and more into canyon territory

[stable cosmos]

I'd prefer to see depth in the mechanic where its easy enough to get pets but its about assigning the right thing in the right place, not just buffing them through neverending breeding.

Heck the troop training engine already does this and its a super annoying feature

[soft gulch]

I have been burned by 4 whales in my bracket, while I am definitely not weak, I can imagine how that hot knife could go through the F2P butter.

but this is what you have to make peace with, there will be stuff coming in.
"dont do anything" isn't even a feedback.

Especially when there is zero dev interaction with players so earliest you can see it in PTR, when it is ready-for-release.

[tardy night]

That 4 will multiply 100x in larger bracket.

Rationalising the gap by saying all freemium games do this is also eliminating the actual truth that even this company is doing something about that mechanism of troop losses accrued from spending gap.

Just look at their newest titles.

[harsh owl]

Breeding pets was/is popular, with a promise of great returns, it just didn't have anything to do with gaming. It was "borrowed" from somewhere else. A place we can't talk about here.

[tardy night]

you are not getting that mechanism because spenders here are going for a sunk cost fallacy to rationalize how deep in the pit they are.

And want to have that advantage. But literally go see fart+ newest games in the freemium category and the troop loss mechanism there.

[cursive vessel]

I just want them to add in something that has a zombie 😂

Rather than pets and cats and whatever

[mint sphinx]

spaceships to fight the moon zombies

[cursive vessel]

Could have done zombie pets!!

[tardy night]

When this company started, the losses were 80% in each tower hit. Hospital cap was 100k. Kvk lasted 2 weeks with no timer cap.

They have progressed between titles to improve the mechanism for players. But the whales of their first game are still entrenched in the belief that 80% death per hit is true gaming.

Now you see that repeated here. With whales firmly thinking this gap is good. Meanwhile they are the ones suffering the worst from hyperinflation when it hits.

The company itself? Does it different in new titles.

Cuz they wanna milk both the whale and the kelp

[wide wraith]

i see they added 30mins to the maintenance, cant they get anything right

[tardy night]

How many whales instant quit the moment they drop spending? That's gaming?

It's in company interest to lower CAC and focus on milking everyone. But the howls of protests from folks like dyz who want their 1 million $ fomo to mean something, will always ensure best practices in retention of every demographic go to newer titles.

Just like it happened for sos 🤣

[tiny quiver]

Normal features

[cursive vessel]

It's the same every time they do maintenance, it always takes them longer than they think 😅

[wide wraith]

its ok for me but anyone who got up early because of the merges will not be happy

[tiny quiver]

Shadow it happens everytime..most who are merging know this..

[soft gulch]

We are merged into a state which is literally bottom 3rd.
by tomorrow evening we might gonna see people leaving in flocks.

the most common logic that needs to be applied for mergers and transfers seems to be missing.

[wide wraith]

yeah i remember last time, when Saberlot tried to deny it, you would think a CM would be about but no, just shows how little they care

[cursive vessel]

Merges can work fine if everyone gets along. It's a big if though 😂

[wide wraith]

its not the players, its the idiots organising it

[soft gulch]

the idiots have zero idea about state dynamics

seems the in-game mods are useless af

[cursive vessel]

Players are also an issue. Regardless of who merges with who if the two states don't get on its not gonna work

[wide wraith]

the idiots have have no idea about the game full stop

[soft gulch]

very simple example, there are two states in lower sorta cracket, which have played 5 -6 svs against each other in last 1 year, it has always ended in bitterness and ppl burning shiz down.

these two states are bing merged. players from the state which is being merged in, are going to leave by right after reset. I mean logic prolly they had was "oh these guys have played so many svs, they must be friendzzz by now, lets put them in same cage"

[cursive vessel]

Yeah but again, it's still a player issue, they don't like each other. Not saying I agree with them being merged, I don't, it's a stupid thing to do but it's still a player issue that stops it from working.

[cloud ridge]

Yup, radar being deceiving showing you have no useful intel left but when you search manually there's still a bunch left.

Annoying that you can't trust game and have to spend more time making sure you don't miss any you want.

[wide wraith]

maybe they will be deleting the dumb kitty event which has no place in a supposed zombie based game anyway

the mini game should die in a fire along with whoever allowed it to be in the game

[soft gulch]

9 more mins to go.

which is going to be 35 mins very soon

[wide wraith]

was about to say that 🤣

[hardy crystal]

they'll be fixing it 15 more times by the end of the week 😂

[wide wraith]

you mean end of the day

now its stuck at 0 lol

@feral sinew so whats the excuse for the delay???????

[hardy crystal]

the important thing is that they know how to collect the money, but they don't know how to fix the game 🤣

[cloud ridge]

FP love having countdowns for their countdowns

Nexus for example

I didn't even know there was an update today

[soft gulch]

Ok done! Here are the crumbs.

[cloud ridge]

Feel like that less than what's been given before?

[soft gulch]

Its less and mostly useless.

[cloud ridge]

10 heal speeds are very nice

Especially after a merge where you dno if anything hostile is gonna happen

God forbid they give 100 of those out

[stable cosmos]

I think the cat match 3 game is fantastic, and this jar thing would be a good minigame inside the cat match 3 game. But they should both be in a separate property, not in sos.

Cutesy match 3 game with neverending levels and a multiplayer aspect? They're actually onto a winner there. Just not inside THIS game

[tardy night]

They should remove that junk, and give 5 transfer tickets and 100k bio.

[tiny quiver]

They should give a set of 24h bubbles to new merge states

[stable cosmos]

Iirc on a merge you're bubbled till you log in. Or exiled until you log in. Unless you want 7 of them so you can be immune from everything until tranfer starts

[cloud ridge]

Well, not like they care what happens to those that are merged

[soft gulch]

i was hoping to see all dead-farm accounts of this dead state available for burning

apparently they wont show up on the map until they log in

[forest kiln]

Isn't this shell-game scam or I'm wrong?

[normal peak]

Three card Monty

[cloud ridge]

Intel, thanks for not fixing a problem you caused.

Fishy, I don't understand what they mean.

Tycoon, bs, its to force more spending, there's times people miss out on rewards cause they haven't spent enough to reach threshold but are in the correct rank tier

[normal peak]

I thought the fishing challenge already was a 6hr progress bar

[cloud ridge]

It is 6hour idle timer already

[oak umbra]

If completion chips we’re removed, why do we still get them as Rewards in Seasonal prizes event? 😒😒😒😒

[sage girder]

Hi Rankna,
The chips are planned to be removed on the 13th

Meaning they are still useable before that.

[wide wraith]

so why did they remove this weeks hero challenges

[oak umbra]

Thank you for your answer. But makes no sense 🫣

[wide wraith]

its the Devs, nothing they do makes any sence

[oak umbra]

Yes 😒 I am not blaming the Mods!

[wide wraith]

its like those of us who merged today missed out on value vouchers but no one else did

[polar osprey]

I just see this... I meant the hero gene thingo as you can exchange potions for genes.

[digital glacier]

If devs are deleting hero challenges and they will be automatically upgrading their completion level rendering completion chips useless. How come I still get them in the rewards for season prizes?
Seems like you're basically taking a season coin from me and giving me nothing in return.

[raw breach]

So something weird is happening. Did devs merge any non trailing states today?

We were close to be a leading state and we worried to hit it before transfer, but today there is 5 or 6 states ahead of us

I also have an account in trailing state that got merge but we are far far from that

Or I do not understand how leading works

[tardy night]

They merged many states.

[violet garden]

Is there any info out yet, if those in the team not registered for Doomsday can play regular RR?

[visual frigate]

Yep. And I bet the number of jars will go up in later levels.

Incidentally, can you get extra pink paws without paying?

[raw breach]

So not only trailing?

[tardy night]

Ye. There's a list somewhere around here. #⭐︱game_information or #📌︱game_updates

[wide wraith]

i want to know why those who suffered with the merge dont have value vouchers or hero challenges, I asked before but no mod or the CM could be bothered to answer, the compensation doesnt reflect these missing events, but they can add the DUMB kitten event

[visual frigate]

There's a lot of other events missing too

[wide wraith]

i know but some are no loss like TD

[visual frigate]

Like Throwdown

[wide wraith]

that one is normally missing

but value vouchers or the last weeks Hero Challenge there is no excuse for missing out

why should we miss out on the last few rewards just because the Devs, couldnt run a party in a place that makes Beer

notice how <@&628563208164081690> dont answer anymore like they used too, is it because they know any feedback here is useless

[steep stump]

For a merge it is necessary to shut down all events. This has happened in every merge and they will be relaunched step by step

[wide wraith]

then that should have shut down in ALL states not just disadvantage a few

[full rampart]

[wide wraith]

so why wasnt that dumb kitten event shut down

why was bounty blast opened before the merge

lucky slots wasnt closed

[full rampart]

Hello Shadow and scar

[steep stump]

Shadow you know we are players like you and have no insight in devs devisions

[wide wraith]

Hi Tallie

then the CM should be here to answer

or should be fired

[steep stump]

I know a merge is never easy - went through some myself - and it's not nice to miss out on Events other states have

[full rampart]

To add to scar, related to this, this month some state were merged, in 3 months other will and the ones who had a merge now won’t have, so I see it as everyone losing these events in their own “time”

[wide wraith]

but your argument that all events are shut down is wrong

[steep stump]

Well... I am not in a merged state, so I cant see what you have. Just know what it was as mine had a merge

[wide wraith]

purrfect 💩 I mean jam was started before the merge. Why couldnt Value vouchures

[full rampart]

The hero challanges are missing because as i understand is impossible to keep all the process the player had in all events when they move to a new state

[wide wraith]

bounty blast was only opened last night

junk that is not really needed and adds nothing to the player experience

[full rampart]

I’m not sure of what would the value vouchers explanation be

What events do you have running now?

[wide wraith]

certain states are to be held back

vera/nara treasure ( p2p only)
Bounty Blast (mainly p2p)
Purrfect Jam (mainly p2p)
Lucky Slots (mainly p2p)
Blissful Bags (p2p)

to name but a few

[full rampart]

When i had my merge i wasn’t a mod but the answer our players got from theiy gm was that the events are opening slowly so people can catch up with building their alliances back and figure out new places/new friends

[wide wraith]

but notice how its all the p2p events first, the rest are junk

[warped ruin]

Why was the wall removed? That's how the zombies get in..

[wide wraith]

like the purrfect jam, what is the point of that, it adds nothing to the game

[full rampart]

Yes i understand your point i honeslty haven’t played it yet

[wide wraith]

which of the idiots thought that would be a good idea is a zombie game

[full rampart]

Oh no

[wide wraith]

its so all the stupid cats can get in

[full rampart]

Shadow is a dog person i can tell

[warped ruin]

some red cats can come, bring fragments too 😄

[steep stump]

I like cats...

[wide wraith]

should post Lori there with her flame thrower

[full rampart]

Now puki made me worried i didn’t see that shield missing

[wide wraith]

cats are ok but even if was puppies I would be against the event

[full rampart]

Yes i understand, i find it a bit wierd or maybe i just don’t understand how it works yet

[harsh owl]

Not sure if you're missing an update or there's some bug on your end, or some other problem but I just entered Hero Challenges and am about to play it now?

[full rampart]

We can make a feedback about this together if you wish Shadow

[full rampart]

Shadow has had a merge i belive, merged states don’t have them, unless you got merged also today?

[wide wraith]

merged state?

i have hero challenges in 857 and 998 but not in 759

[harsh owl]

Ah, no. Probably where my alt is, where I haven't logged in for the day but let me go there now

[harsh owl]

Logging into my other account now.

[wide wraith]

waste of time, they ignore our feedback anyway

[full rampart]

Yes i remeber from our merge that challanges weren’t on after merge

[wide wraith]

last week of them so we miss out on rewards

[full rampart]

Honeslty i never played them… i feel they take too much time

[steep stump]

They will be back

[wide wraith]

no they wont

[steep stump]

Tomorrow or day after

[full rampart]

Well we can try

I’m looking forward anyway for the answer in top 10 from last week, there was a hero challanges feedback

[gusty aurora]

The Game Update Clearly State that Hero Challenges Retired. So it should be gone.

[wide wraith]

so where are the missing rewards, missing time so will not be able to be in the top 5/10/20

[wide wraith]

not till next week

and to get frags you have to se fast right on reset monday morning

so yet again held back

[gusty aurora]

It says has been retired so i think they dont give af to wait with it Til next week 🤣

[wide wraith]

it happened before when we were 761 and missed out on 2 migos

were the test state for journey to glory, recommended is wasnt continued but we were ignored, missed out on a KE that week (as much as i hate it), never compenstated

forced into terrible matches via gen skip (as others have been) because the Devs couldnt match a pair of identical clones

[full rampart]

Wait you had a merge and this is the second one Shadow?

[wide wraith]

yeah this in our second one

first one was a complete cluster F

[full rampart]

I’m not sure if i should say congratulations, i am one of these nostalgic people who would like to stay in her state even if is dead

I cried when we got a state merge and lost the state number

[wide wraith]

we didnt need it really, could still win in svs

[harsh owl]

@wide wraith @full rampart So we didn't get a merge on my alt but since several of you are saying that's the reason I'll have to go with that and can't confirm on my account.

Apologies Shadow. I didn't realize it was because of a merge.

[full rampart]

We had our merge i forgot how long ago, might have been overish 1-2 years but i remember most of the events came back gradually, we were busy with the construction so i didn’t really mind them

[wide wraith]

where is the compensation for us missing out, a few gold frags that are useless

he Devs should be made to play the game before deciding the level of compensation

[full rampart]

Wait can you screenshot me the compeanstion you got today?

I don’t remember it but it seemed big for me before

[wide wraith]

to an almost maxed P15 most of that is useless

[normal peak]

Congrats you can work on your chief gear and chief level

🥳

[full rampart]

The bios and speeds no

[full rampart]

But i understand this

[wide wraith]

thats about all

[full rampart]

Do you want to make a feedback to ask for improving merge compensation? As the merged states lose days of events and therefor more than what is given

[wide wraith]

oh wait my research is all but a few crystal level complete

[wide wraith]

can try but its worthless as there is no CM to fight for us

[full rampart]

I’m sure that nanami will point this out to the dev team, she is really involved in feedbacks, right today she asked for explanations ans more details about some top 10s topics

So let’s try it and see if we can at least get an answer for it

[wide wraith]

ok lets try

as has been mentioned before the level od compensation needs to be at a level comparible with the states average level

in a state where the majority have little of no need to the skills badges what is the point of them (except the first week of any migo)

[full rampart]

Observation:
After the states merge, merged states miss a lot of events that bring players rewards.
The actual compensation given is mostly useless, as old states don’t need chief gear or chief level materials.

Consequence:
States that got merged are disadvantaged compared to the non-merged ones, being unable to play these certain events and get the rewards.

Suggested solution:
Improve the comensation given to merged states to be equal to everything they lose.
Or open all the events in the merged states aswell, to be equal to the rest of the states

[wide wraith]

sounds good

[full rampart]

Can i attach the compensation image?

[wide wraith]

sure

[full rampart]

If you would like me to change something please let me know, i’ m not that good with “fancy” words

[wide wraith]

your better with words than i am ( my feedback wouldnt be as family friendly )

[full rampart]

I wouldn’t call me really better with words, i’m usually very straight to the point, but i learned from you all to add more details in my feedbacks

Future i see you typing

#📋︱feedback-reporting message lets gooo

[harsh owl]

Is there a reason you think, or maybe it just hasn't been suggested that older states/players should be allowed to select their compensation rewards?

I know there might be some conflicts with bundles, but if you did sentiment analysis on a number of the channels a large percent of players grievances has to do with rewards. Especially for older states and maxed players, they're horrendous.

[full rampart]

Hmmm now that you mention it we had never had any feedback that was about allowing players to select their own rewards.

But i know we had a lot related to the uselesness of some rewards for old states, such as bunkers giving yet books and pink fragments

[vale yoke]

[wide wraith]

instead of gold frags give value vouchures

[full rampart]

[full rampart]

Do you want me to add this in the feedback?

[wide wraith]

no lets not make it too complicated for them

[full rampart]

I hope we get a lot of votes

[wide wraith]

yeah twice

[vale yoke]

I smelled feedback?

[harsh owl]

Maybe because the people most impacted by it don't appear to be the folks largely in the SOS server engaging with each other.

If we tried to create a ticket for it, their votes would be missing, and there is another challenge I'd rather discuss via DM or not at all because it could create hive mind behavior or group think

[full rampart]

I know you did, I missed a good chat here with you all

[full rampart]

I think we should encourage them to come and express their thoughts, you know maybe 1 person won’t move mountains but more would at least shake some stones
(If my expressions make no sense, i promise in my language they do)

[harsh owl]

That expression makes lots of sense actually 🙂

[soft gulch]

I had a feedback on this.
This needs to be a norm now, to allow players to select their rewards.

Give variety like this and basis state's age allow player to select x numbers of items.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[full rampart]

Hmmm maybe we should revive that feedback and try again, it’s actually a really smart suggestion

[harsh owl]

I don't know how others feel but a. this is feedback I wouldn't mind seeing over and over to either stress its importance or eventually get a high enough vote for DEVS to seriously consider it and b. to the point Tallie made maybe there is something in trying to get those that aren't active here to engage a bit more and vote on that feedback in particular since they are most impacted by the inability to choose their rewards.

What do you think? I agree with Tallie as it doesn't take much to revive this and nothing is lost by trying.

[wind turret]

Where can I get transfer passes? My whole alliance is leaving this state and I cannot get pearls for passes nor obtain any passes via the store.

[cursive vessel]

They usually come up to buy, maybe tomorrow? Not sure but they definitely offer them for purchase

Not that I'd recommend buying them, it'd be expensive if you need a lot 🙈

[wind turret]

Well, then I’ll delete the game and never spend another dollar on sos. I’m not spending 80 dollars to move my settlement with my friends.

Moving states should cost 5 dollars nothing more.

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, pearls or the 1 from alliance store are the only free way. I don't think any other store has them.
Tickets are expensive to buy sadly but I suppose they hope people will buy them if they're desperate to leave.

[wind turret]

Thanks for explaining Lana

I’m out, unfortunately. I would like to stay with my friends but there is not an affordable option after being on break for a while.

[harsh owl]

Unpopular opinion. Moving states should cost $0.

[cursive vessel]

Or at least lower the amount needed, 45 is an insane amount 🙈

I know pearls offer 10 every time it's on but still it's a lot to need

[cloud ridge]

So, I'm guessing this has some bs like 5 touches

[cursive vessel]

Think it's 20, sure i saw one in state chat and it had 20. If that's what you mean 😂

[cloud ridge]

Yup

Cause tycoon coins have 10 touches, which is weird

Quite generous by FP standards if 20, must be bug

[soft gulch]

3800% lmao

its a ripoff

[cloud ridge]

20 coins for 20 red chips which will be recycled for resources

You might as well buy the resources bundle

[soft gulch]

I get more everyday just with trucks

[cursive vessel]

I haven't even got anything good from the season coin thing 😅

Lots of chips, which can then be recycled😂

[cloud ridge]

Usually I get nothing amazing, but we've had farms get main prizes and of course accounts that may or may not spend a lot get them more than once 👀

[soft gulch]

4 alliance mates have won 500 behe/FS crates this season.
i am like f me gawd.

[cursive vessel]

I got 100 plasma, that is the best thing I got 😅

But it's like wow, that will go far 😂

[tardy night]

Moving states.....

What we should have, is a rejection option from host state, a cooldown period of 6 months where no transfer is plausible for someone who moved already, with an escalation to 12 months if they move again, and an alliance transfer pack to allow people to co-opt their smaller hq into moving as a group.

[wind turret]

Anything would be better than this expensive option now.

[tropic galleon]

Hello,why didn't I get even one gene link but my farm keep getting them repeatedly?

[soft gulch]

sleep for 60 days and then pray in the next 10 days you get your friends' new state an option

[tardy night]

You weren't preparing for merger/migration?

[wind turret]

I’ve been on break from the game.

[soft gulch]

buy 1 ticket every week

its not difficult

but i agree state transfer should be easier and free to an extent where you pay lie 100k biocaps

[cloud ridge]

FP rng

[wind turret]

It’s not difficult to accumulate passes if your on every day

It’s not always possible to be absorbed in games when real life is busy and going well

Sos asks us to play at their convenience and schedule. Too much of an ask for me.

My relationship with the game is ending because of escalating expenses to have a social life with other players.

[soft gulch]

yeeah you are right

[soft gulch]

so....

2 of our whales are leaving

and the strongest player of the weak state we merged into, joined one of our aalliances within 12 hrs she abandoned her friends

these merges are ridiculous

who comes with these ideas

[sage girder]

At least the transfer option is on the table and nothing is completely sealed

[soft gulch]

i just dropped 4000 pearls to get 20 tix

i mean if we were merged into an active state, we would be doing something else now

we merged into dead state with no hope

just merge 10 of those together and spare the active ones

penalizing active states to bring activity to dead ones is stupid

[sage girder]

I understand your point that merging active with inactive should be priority to balance it and rid of dead states completely, but at the same time I half understand the logic of merging inactive ones.
If you have 5 very active and 2 inactive, you would prefer to merge those two and keep the very active as they are (you said yourself, leave the active aside)

Again, all assumption as I don't have the recipe to which states based on what exactly.

[stable cosmos]

Ah yes but now you're all spending money to leave when transfer rolls around. Thsts a win for fp

[soft gulch]

i didnt have any plans till few hrs ago but now we have started building the hive we are seeing how bad it is

plus 2 whales are leaving

[sage girder]

Unfortunately it's pretty hard to predict on how people would react to merge.. for every state you are happy to merge with, there would be some who are disappointed from that.

[soft gulch]

correct, this is why when VIPs give suggestion that should be heard

it was asked but that was not listened to

this is the time when all big states in my bracket are consolidating to reduce whale-spend-stress

and we got weakened

[forest kiln]

The hell is a problem just to make 1 general completion capsule and replace all gold frags in all places with it? And what so special about troll squad that it cost double? And we see it for last 3 years everywhere?

[feral mango]

This is why troll squad costs more

Completing it gives bonus stats

[forest kiln]

And?

Before you could upgrade with gold frags which cost same everywhere

[sweet copper]

Guys, I found a new, great game, Survival of Cats

[stable cosmos]

Those stats are almost nothing really. Its just fp being aholes as usual

[forest kiln]

For whom they did this scam? P2P dont need this rewards, they already maxed all, I don't think small / mid spenders will go for fully P2P event too

[west fog]

Can't they ever do it just right when releasing a new event???

[sweet copper]

Purrrrfect event

I'm getting tired of that, soon we will raise small pets and plant flowers

Maybe it's time to pack my bags

[west fog]

I'm so fed up with this constant buggy crap. Releasing bugs with everything is not a feature ffs.

[stable cosmos]

I went through this yesterday. That top paw is only "used" when you submit. Until then it just exists. You used 1 paw to place the first jar. Thats what the thing shows at the bottom.

It is absolutely unintutive and garbage design that is not clear at all. It is working as intended, but the intention is dumb as hell

[west fog]

Yeah well, why should I care anymore?
They don't care, so I don't care.

[cursive vessel]

I haven't even finished troll squad but they're not really that important once you're on gen 20

[tame oxide]

You need 2 tokens to check the 2 jars and you only have 1

[west fog]

Understood that now after Cyan's explanation.
But there was no other way of course to make it crystal clear right from the start.

And my rant about buggy crap still stands after the latest update fest. They can't do anything just right.

[tame oxide]

As f2p is very little we can do in this event 🙁
By the time we figure out(If we do) how it works we can't play it anymore 🙁

[wide wraith]

ohhh are you supposed to finish the troll squad?

[feral mango]

I finished troll squad when we got g7

[west fog]

What even is troll squad? Do I want to know?

[wide wraith]

its from G7 after maxing the 3 heroes you were supposed to basically max them again for extra stats, usueless these days

[cursive vessel]

Well, I assume they want you finish troll squad cause they sell the frags but meh 😂

[wide wraith]

even if maxed they wouldnt make my 6th march, total waste of time

[feral mango]

I’m only g11 so Grimm still used on my control march

[west fog]

Oh, thought it was the last normal exploration missions. Was so happy to get those last purple hero rewards after one year of playing. Ecstatic even.

[wide wraith]

as soon as you get the mega skip you will forget about the troll squad

[weak ingot]

Also we basically rioted so badly they tossed the entire idea out the window

I still need to do them tho, which is dumb cuz ugh

[tepid rivet]

Can't wait when they make us pay for the same heroes a 3rd and 4th and 5th time

[cloud ridge]

Hero breeding?

I want to a baby chef

[coarse verge]

What is your state?

[forest kiln]

Does anybody remember could we do RR during last Doomsday or no?

[wide wraith]

no we couldnt

you had to be out of DD to do RR

[forest kiln]

I think they issued some compensation, but I dont remember what happened after

[wide wraith]

the compensation was because some who were not able to do DD couldnt get into RR

[pallid willow]

His special power would be to roll around breaking ankles

[cloud ridge]

Breaking ankles and hearts

[keen lake]

Hankles …. Because he’s hangry

[wind turret]

430.00 dollars to transfer. Are you serious sos?

[thorny plume]

Well ill raise that with

oNlY 20 ReMaInIngG 😂😂

So i wouldnt be too surprised with a 430 euro transfer

Except its free if you use your pearls and grab them from alliance store ... Theres that tough

[harsh owl]

That's cheap. When I wanted to transfer once but didn't have anywhere near the amount I needed it was over $700 USD.

Feedback: Why exactly after spending what we do in SOS does FunPlus resort to extortionist amounts of money if we want to transfer to another state?

The very action takes very little effort on their end.

Consequence: Players are stuck in unfortunate scenarios, which can demoralize them from playing the game regularly or worse, quit altogether.

Solution: FunPlus must stop these extortionist tactics in extracting money from their players or risk the death of their title.

Relaunching under another title is not success. It means you're an abject failure, one that is unable to maintain a title over extended periods. This might be why they can only rely on addictive patterns and behavior to make money, not that this isn't an industry wide problem.

[shut talon]

@foggy briar

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Even though this makes sense, every other event is geared towards the Eastern hemisphere.
I understand the frustration but us Western players need good times too.

For example, for most top alliances in my bracket.

Koth, rr, trap, and other events are all 3am or later for me.
There's pretty much 1 event that starts at a decent time for us Western players and yous want to change it? Seems unfair to us Western Players.

[worn pewter]

Tickets are actually fairly inexpensive

Learn to prioritize during events to get them rather than buying packs

[shut talon]

For 4k pearls, you could have gained 50 tickets in the last 4 weeks.
Yes it's a bit more expensive but that's plenty for anyone wanting to transfer

[worn pewter]

It is the least expensive way I have seen in any game to transfer servers

[shut talon]

Can't say I have any idea but being able to transfer your progress to a whole new state is definitely super convenient.

[soft gulch]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

I want to downvote, but i sympathize

CC/SVS warfare timing isnt suitable for players in Americas

but I think CC needs overhaul, this 4 hr occupation needs to cut short to 2 hrs. all rallies should have 1 min from start not via migo buff

thing is as soon as state crosses p5 stage sotf-cc becomes a friendly affair. I dont remember when we last had a fight for governorship. whales cannot be doubled any more. so its just long-ash event serving no purpose.

CUt it and make it total 4 hrs event, start at 12UTC and end it at 16

[soft gulch]

better to sleep for 60 days and take a chance.
if you need like 40-45 tix, it willl take you almost a year.
i dont deny that transfer system needs an overhaul, it is bad.

[fathom otter]

cant make it 4 hours, that shuts out more than half the world

[fathom otter]

its crazy. i only have 15 tickets, not easy for f2p/low spenders to collect them at all, and wasting pearls on them means losing a ton of other more valuable items:(

[harsh owl]

No need to learn to prioritize anything as a means of dealing with cognitive dissonance.

They caught me once, and never caught me again. Between pearls, the weekly alliance store resets, whatever rewards one might have appeared in and proper planning far in advance of needing to transfer, there was no need for me personally to buy a single bundle.

I think you missed the premise of my comment. I transferred for $0 the last time I needed to transfer.

Now, kindly address the logic behind WHY we need to pay anything if we didn't stack the tickets as I've shared and instructed. Thanks.

Additionally and largely due to state merges, if you're not stacking tickets even when you have no plans to transfer that would be what folks may want to prioritize per your advice.

[worn pewter]

You just answered your own question, if someone fails to take the opportunities to get tickets the free/easy way over time which doesn’t take that much time then money is their backup. Hence my comment, people need to learn to prioritize

[worn pewter]

If it takes a year you’re doing it wrong

Personally I have no tickets

And I intend to stay that way

But, if I wanted to move and needed tickets I would get them for free in the timeline of less than 1 migo duration.

It is really quite simple

[fathom otter]

you know what 4000 pearls are worth to f2p? i never wanted to move but my state is turning into a whale state and is no fun anymore. But sure, if you’re planning months in advance to move, it’s possible to accumulate them without spending. That a low spend acc requires 45 ticket is, however, also absurd

[harsh owl]

Okay family. Point made. Maybe at some point we'll more naturally flow into the "why", but let's just go with the advice you shared and what I mentioned for now.

In the meantime, this is the way it is and all things considered is most likely to remain the way it will be for the foreseeable future.

[soft gulch]

You can get 1 per week free from the alliance store, that is 52 in a year.

Do you know how can you get 45tix for free any other way?

[fathom otter]

I cant get it every week, maybe every 2

[worn pewter]

Yes, plenty of ways

[soft gulch]

Like?

[worn pewter]

Everyone, even f2p can earn points in events and many events stores have tickets in them

If I didn’t spend a dime and played for free for one migo duration I would have enough tickets through event stores easily.

It comes down to what do you want, to leave your state or a shiny new set of wings…

[soft gulch]

No store except alliance stores have tickets.
If you mean Collab stores like Lara Croft, then you are sacrificing on items that you can get from Collab store currency, just like pearl store.

[worn pewter]

Again

Priorities

[fathom otter]

how are you sposed to take part in events if youre spending all currency on tickets and have no materials to upgrade anything to earn points to buy tickets…

[worn pewter]

You think wings or a HQ skin or 10 Dino crates are more important than the tickets then you do not want to leave your state

It’s a choice, you have to make it

[soft gulch]

Of course. I had 25 tix which I got from alliance store in last 6 months, I bought 20 from pearl, just yesterday

[worn pewter]

Again, personally I have zero tickets and will remain that way

[worn pewter]

Exactly, congrats

You figured out what was more important to you

[worn pewter]

You obviously do not understand the events or how to save up things you earn so I don’t really know how to help you there

[fathom otter]

priorities are growth, and materials to upgrade. the point is it is not as easy as you are trying to insist it is and many dont want to move they have to

[worn pewter]

It is easy

[fathom otter]

I understand events very well.

[worn pewter]

You just said priority is growth

That means you don’t want to leave your state

It’s a simple thought process

[fathom otter]

transfer tickets are not a priority for me, theyre a rip off

[worn pewter]

If you want to leave then get your tickets in the events

If not, get growth stuff

[soft gulch]

But that doesn't mean that price of getting those tix is NOT ludicrous.
And people who are desparate should pay in $ for it.

I bought it yesterday only cuz pearl store would've been gone by today and then.....

[worn pewter]

I disagree, I have never seen a cheaper rate to move servers in a game.

Imagine if it was a $1 per ticket and or 20 tickets in alliance store that you could get easily in a week

Now imagine that there were no power restrictions on entry to any state (don’t give me the “that isn’t the discussion” because if we are talking about something that doesn’t exist already we can talk about this too)

[harsh owl]

The math isn't mathing...at least for F2P.

You're either upgrading those areas with the bare minimum coins you're obtaining as F2P, or you're spending them on tickets but here is another problem.

During the transfer period, and even before exactly what events are some of us referring to as a place to buy tickets?

[worn pewter]

What do you think would happen within 6 months?

[worn pewter]

Anything with a pearl store

Christmas event, the collab events, circuit chip event

Nonetheless, what do you think would happen with the above mentioned scenario?

[soft gulch]

I don't even know which side are you playing for.

There are two sides

1. Transfer tix pricing is ridiculous, players should get tix cheaper better free....or they should get 1 free transfer every year. Many solutions.

2. Transfer tix system is perfect, you just need to be smart and shell out for whatever deficit you have.

[worn pewter]

I do not want tickets to be easier to obtain by any means

[harsh owl]

The sunk cost fallacy in this argument is that you're building a case negating the fact if you've spent enough to get a GM, why do you need to spend even more to transfer servers?

They claim you're a VIP, can't justify what the rewards are comparative to other VIP programs, yet you should spend hundreds to move if you didn't "prioritize" and "plan" in advance?

My initial response was less interested in bandaids and more interested in the 5 whys technique of getting to the root cause/understanding.

[worn pewter]

I would love to hear an answer on the above mentioned scenario though.

I see zero reason for bandaids either

Nor am I speaking to the fact that whales should have free transfers.

The ability to transfer states will snowball into the destruction of this game entirely.

This is why they have so many restrictions on transfer event as it is.

People wanted it and the developers did their research into other games that had the ability to do so and saw what it did.

[harsh owl]

I'm actually really glad you made that distinction and I'm not being sarcastic or flippantly dismissing your comments importance.

Feedback: If you've spent X amount of fiat on SOS during X period before transfers, you should be able to transfer at zero cost to you because you've met the expected spend minimum.

[worn pewter]

So the developers took excessive precautions

[worn pewter]

So you’re advocating for whales to be free to move from one state to another as they please any transfer event?

Making sure I understand correctly

What would X be in that scenario?

Where would the f2p sit in that scenario? Left to their devices?

[shut talon]

Okay but you would have noticed your state turning into a whale state for a while now.
So gaining tickets should have been started a while ago.
I'm collecting tickets constantly for emergency transfer if required

[worn pewter]

This is my point, many players just go “oh f” I don’t have tickets

But that is entirely their own fault

[shut talon]

I'm not disagreeing with transfer cost, but at the same time it's not like they have 1 day to move.
They can hold out this TE or plan ahead.
Making transfers more cost affordable won't ever be a bad thing though

[worn pewter]

And it’s hilarious because it’s not like everyone has not figured out the schedule

[worn pewter]

I disagree with your last part

[shut talon]

Exactly. Transfer event typically starts the week after migo

[worn pewter]

Making them cheaper is the 2nd to last step of the end of this game

[shut talon]

There is already a 3 month cooldown before transfers 😅

[worn pewter]

The final step is removing power restrictions entirely.

Once they do these 2 things everything is dust in the wind

[shut talon]

You really reckon?

[worn pewter]

I have seen it

Whale alliances have already formed since transfer event began

Now they just need a cheaper cost and no ceiling to the gate

Then they will move from one server to the next systematically destroying each server they arrive at.

It is the final conquest of any game like this.

[tardy night]

Do you think tickets are hard to obtain for anyone spending enough.

If they are not, do you think it's being done for the benefit of players?

[worn pewter]

Nope

I think they are easy for any player

[tardy night]

[worn pewter]

You could have scrolled for 20 seconds and found that out though

[tardy night]

Easy to obtain, by compensating in growth and competitive ability even w.r.t other similar age ftp.

Yes?

[worn pewter]

Yes

[tardy night]

So, what makes a small player generally move

[worn pewter]

I have zero tickets

[tardy night]

How much does war or a bad environment or a cold war affect that decision. And would you say that being competitive in that scenario is a factor

I'm not talking about you. I'm talking of small players.

[worn pewter]

How competitive is a f2p anyway?

It all boils down to each persons priorities

[tardy night]

Ah, so they should be okay with dying instead of trying to be competitive and surviving the best they can.

Yes?

[worn pewter]

I stated my opinion on this up here

[tardy night]

How often does a person get 0ed before they quit such a game in your opinion

[worn pewter]

You can scroll up and read rather than putting words in my mouth

[tardy night]

You can say no, it's fine lol

[tardy night]

^

[worn pewter]

In my state people aren’t getting zeroed on a regular basis

[tardy night]

Zeroing by itself is irregular

[shut talon]

Yes but whales can afford to transfer every event. Seen it myself witha a few whales who jumped 3 transfers in a row

[worn pewter]

A few now

Make it cheaper and more will do it

[tardy night]

Zeroing doesn't happen for 99% of playing time. It is irregular even in warring states.

[worn pewter]

Kill the ceiling on power restrictions and make it cheaper and they will all do it, together

[shut talon]

Cheaper tickets allow the f2p - mid spender run from toxic states easier

[worn pewter]

Then running is all you will do

[shut talon]

Reducing ticket price while maintaining transfer quantity limit and lead states will be beneficial in my opinion.

[tardy night]

So whales should have the freedom to run whenever, but not f2p or mid spenders

[worn pewter]

It’s a slippery slope

[worn pewter]

I disagree

[shut talon]

It is if they remove all restrictions and decrease ticket price

[tardy night]

You don't think the game is currently setup to be so?

[worn pewter]

Again you are refusing to read what I have stated above and putting words in my mouth

[shut talon]

No but you saying reducing the price to get tickets or making it easier will just ruin it because whales can jump easier.

Whales will jump, they don't need cheaper tickets.

[tardy night]

Who can affect a state more and make it more or less toxic with their in game abilities.

[tardy night]

We are asking you if the current game is favouring whales to move Willy nilly.

[analog plaza]

You guys okay here?

[shut talon]

Yes, just friendly discussion

[worn pewter]

Read this

[analog plaza]

Okayyy good

[worn pewter]

I think we have 2 gates left to keeping whales at bay and trying to get FP to drop the price on tickets removes one gate.

[tardy night]

So what do you think whales cant do right now about this?

And cooldown periods exist in other titles for mitigating that issue.

[shut talon]

We aren't saying remove restrictions

[worn pewter]

And it won’t come eventually?

If everyone pushes and pushes enough and tickets get reduced

Don’t you think the same can be done with those restrictions

[tardy night]

You are dodging a simple question

Can whales move every 3 months in current sos. And do other games have cooldown periods between migration

[worn pewter]

😂

🙄

Let me rephrase for the bot

You are upset with me because my position on state transfer is to kill it before it snowballs

[tardy night]

No one's upset with you, we are having a simple conversation here

[worn pewter]

Nothing simple about you attempting to say I have said things I have not

[tardy night]

And that's another dodge. What's your answer to the question

[worn pewter]

When you could have easily scrolled up when you showed up

[tardy night]

This is a question. Not putting anything into your statements.

[worn pewter]

One second, I think you are failing to realize something

[tardy night]

Still waiting for the answer 👀

[worn pewter]

Keep waiting

I have never moved states

I do not intend to

[tardy night]

Lol..

[worn pewter]

What the whales can do now I don’t agree with

What they can do when the layers get pulled back, I do not agree with

[soft gulch]

[worn pewter]

My position is transfer event will eventually destroy the game

And the layers will get pulled back in time

[tardy night]

It doesn't destroy anything. Just fresh challenges.

Current system is set to milk money. Not to save any game.

[worn pewter]

I disagree

[tardy night]

If they gave a damn about saving any game they would let a governor choose where to dump the state in a merger lmao

[shut talon]

Having no transfer event would have killed the game much faster.

[worn pewter]

For some states maybe but for many no

[tardy night]

If it was indeed "many" , transfers would not exist. It's a cost to design transfers if "many" never need it.

[shut talon]

A lot of whales don't stick to one state. And lots of people don't enjoy being in a top ranked state. So being forced to play in an environment where you have invested money (or not) would kill the game.

[worn pewter]

Transfers only exist for whales

😂

[shut talon]

Game is only alive because of said whales

This game like many others on mobiles exists to make money.
No whales = no game.

[worn pewter]

Exactly

[tardy night]

So s transfer system that's cheaper but comes with a time imposed between consecutive transfers, say 6 months to an escalation of 12 months (half the average game time of many players) ...what would occur

[worn pewter]

So we want to reduce the cost and make it that much easier for them to live and dominate servers

[shut talon]

Reducing the cost isn't going to impact whales. It impacts the F2P - Mid spenders though.

Whales spend enough and rank high enough in events to obtain the tickets required to jump every 3 months.

[worn pewter]

Are you implying further restriction on movement by whales would be imposed if cheaper tickets were given?

[worn pewter]

I will refer you to this comment

[tardy night]

That's how other games handle it. Yes.

[worn pewter]

Not any other game I have played

[shut talon]

I'm implying that the cheaper the tickets the easier for the other players to move. Whales will move, doesn't matter on the price of the tickets .

[tardy night]

6 month time period is not killing any whale lol.

[worn pewter]

When they mass and say they want that gone it will be gone

[tardy night]

Play more. Fart+ games had a restriction for 2 years before

[worn pewter]

Then what will you do, buy more tickets every month to run and run and run?

[worn pewter]

Play more 😂

Nah, I’m good

[tardy night]

So, you are okay with it, but are against ftp to mid wanting it cuz whales will force it back

[worn pewter]

What have I stated previously is my position

[tardy night]

[worn pewter]

Of course I’m not okay with it 😂

[worn pewter]

…

[tardy night]

Which is that status quo should not change. While whales have an advantage that does destroy game as per your opinion. But slow rot is okay

[worn pewter]

Slow rot is better than systematic annihilation

I don’t think this event should have existed in the first place

[shut talon]

I mean no transfer event will kill the game.

[worn pewter]

Incorrect

In some servers yes

[tardy night]

Back to this

[shut talon]

70% of whales in 1057-1160 bracket has transferred at least once.
There are very few who hasn't moved.

[worn pewter]

I feel like you’re going to tell me so I’ll wait

[tardy night]

I'm asking

[worn pewter]

[tardy night]

Another dodge

[worn pewter]

You’re all over the place

[tardy night]

That's another dodge too

[worn pewter]

You might as well ask me for a recipe for pecan pie

What does it have to do with the conversation?

[tardy night]

Lol

[worn pewter]

You want cheaper tickets, I prefer no tickets

Now we are talking about toxic states and players ability to curve it. How about being a decent human being.

[tardy night]

Systematic annihilation was your choice of words. It's funny how you don't think who contributes or can contribute to annihilation

[worn pewter]

Finding a common goal.

Realizing burning your stage hurts your ability to compete in svs and other events

[stable cosmos]

Utopia in my online gaming? At this time of the year, located entirely within sos?

[worn pewter]

It is not one demographic that has to do that

[worn pewter]

I have already stated who that would be so obviously you mean whales. My point is toxic states are not just because of whales.

So your question is off topic

[tardy night]

Of course, ftp can blabber all day in chat. And send threatening DMs. And rally for 24 hours.

[stable cosmos]

The excess ticket requirements mean after a merge your original plans to not move, may then suddenly change and you need to leave. There is no real mechanism for this.

[worn pewter]

If this is something that could happen and worries people they can stock tickets over a longer period of time that doesn’t stop them from growing so harshly

[stable cosmos]

Apart from asking for an exile immediately and not playing. I'd quit at that point though

[tardy night]

It's not otf topic if its relevant except you don't see it to be so.

Back to the question, who has more potential to make a state unlivable.

[stable cosmos]

Gyno?

[worn pewter]

😂

Is this a test🤔

[stable cosmos]

Wonder how ivar is doing

[tardy night]

We got 2 of those.

One rages about Russian war. Every single day since it started.

The other talks to himself.

[worn pewter]

I feel like if it was multiple choice answers there would only be A. Whale and B. Also A.

So whatever your point in continuing to bring up whales?

[tardy night]

Cuz status quo

[worn pewter]

The Riddler himself ladies and gentlemen

[tardy night]

^

I'm sure Ivar can exist in all 500 states

At once

[worn pewter]

You are still trying to spin this as a thing that I’m ok with

When I have clearly stated I’m not

I simply do not want a decrease in price of tickets because the dam is already cracking

[tardy night]

Not at all. I'm showing you why I think it should be cheaper for all

With inbuilt protection for the toxicity by extended cooldown periods and a rejection mechanism

[worn pewter]

That will not remain

[tardy night]

Both of which other fart+ games employ

Literal other fart+ games have it

They also let you choose who to merge with

[worn pewter]

Sure, currently

[tardy night]

The oldest ones do. Lol.

[stable cosmos]

Easy solution. Transfer is open at all times for tickets. In the... 3 days after a merge you get 1 free transfer

[worn pewter]

👌 the older games that have died that games like this were built after and modeled by removed said restrictions and fart* will too eventually.

[tardy night]

Died? 🤣

[stable cosmos]

3 days should be enough to work out if your new merge sucks and allows you to leave.

Of course f---plus allowing that is an entirely different matter

[worn pewter]

Yes

[tardy night]

They are making same amounts of money as in 2019. Wdym died

Players left, game is running the same lol

They recycle and move on.

[worn pewter]

I’m not talking about just fart+

Games like this have been around for a long time by many makers

[tardy night]

And ....

[worn pewter]

Nevermind

I have already stated it

From the time you jumped in you refused to read things so this is worthless 😂

[tardy night]

Cuz I have played these other games with extended cooldowns, which you haven't.

While also having played the ones without.

Meanwhile, You're dismissing a thought without any data or anecdotal experience behind the intuition.

[worn pewter]

Quite the contrary, I have my own experience that I have already stated. My position is what it is and you’re is what yours is.

They don’t align, that’s fine

[tardy night]

^

[worn pewter]

Yes

[tardy night]

Talking exclusively about conditions where migration is cheaper with extended cooldowns

[worn pewter]

All the restrictions you have brought up existed and then were eventually reduced until they did not exist.

[tardy night]

In games that you never played?

[worn pewter]

I’m talking on a much wider aspect than you are

You gave a number of what?

2

[worn pewter]

The games I played

Obviously

[tardy night]

I'm not talking about the wider aspect. I'm talking of what I'm proposing and back. 🤣

Wider aspect would leave the world of options to explore.

[worn pewter]

You are the one that replied to the comment to have it back up

Reading is tough?

[worn pewter]

And what you are proposing is nice for a moment

But it will not last

[tardy night]

Based on...

[worn pewter]

[tardy night]

Intuition....

[worn pewter]

So reading is tough?

Have fun

[tardy night]

Experience with games that didn't have it

Reading is tough.

[worn pewter]

😂

[tardy night]

🍺 thanks for the fun. Back to work

[kindred plaza]

Ok

This is so annoying

They should release all our available towers as deployable and ready to build

After merger

Like we finished the damn tech already. Just restart us on tech then if anything. I’d rather that because in a day even the newest released states generate more towers

But every 24h we only get 10 😭

What can I possibly build with 10 towers

Also let’s not forget some alliances do not have the equal amount of deployables as expected upon daily release of these towers. Day 1 and Day 2

(We never used a deployable)

Rant is over ty. That is my feedback on this. Very frustrating

[wide wraith]

it gets worse after a while

[kindred plaza]

This is my second merger

I know there will be days in between

My hair will have fallen completely by then and devs are the cause of my alopecia

I don’t understand the point tho

[wide wraith]

my 4th, built a reasonable sized hive and linked to 2 more ACs

[kindred plaza]

Should provide towers as earned by finishing tech**

My hive costed 19 towers

So annoyed

[wide wraith]

they do in the end but just imagine if one alliance could be on at 6am and one couldnt be on for another 8 hours, i suppose limited numbers a day allows everyone to build a hive

[kindred plaza]

Makes sense. I’m fine with 20 but 10 a day is rather small

I can only build halfway to an ac and have to wait till tomorrow to finish

[wide wraith]

see i preplanned, built to an AC in 8

[kindred plaza]

In wastelands?

[wide wraith]

yeah

[kindred plaza]

I am trying to go for occupancy rewards

Otherwise it would be easy

😔😔😔

I wanna do this

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[wide wraith]

i am next to FF4 but went behind me to the lvl2 , gives me 6 days to get 3 lvl 1

[kindred plaza]

Ah

To the battle lv2?

[wide wraith]

nope, no one is anywhere near and its 11 days before that one opens

after 4 merges in 3 different states, this becomes 2nd nature

[kindred plaza]

Oh u said this I wasn’t sure what u meant

[kindred plaza]

I understand that

I bet it does

[wide wraith]

its planning, i have the same map as you so i worked out where i was going about 2 days after the merge was announced, had 3 options lol

[cloud ridge]

Connect to as many L1 asap, disconnect from ones you take then rebuild to any unclaimed L1, do this for all other higher level ACs till you've obtained first occ as much as you can

[kindred plaza]

That’s what I’m planning

[cloud ridge]

You'll be without a fancy hive for ages but the speeds and whatever else rewards were make up for it

[kindred plaza]

Yes u right

[wide wraith]

its the start point thats critical

[cloud ridge]

Which, is why its good to have a alt alliance to cover your own territory if you do, and others to "block" other ACs or be sneaky 😇

[coarse verge]

🥤🍿

[kindred plaza]

I do!!

Imma do that with a few

[cloud ridge]

It annoys others who don't do the same even when they have the same knowledge, they wouldn't be complaining though if it was them getting the rewards 😏

[coarse verge]

Idiots go for hive and trap spots now first day

[cloud ridge]

Yup, why need a 2nd hive, or just bubble for first few weeks when off to stop any hits with short port distance to hive

Or least 2nd alliance to cover territory

[coarse verge]

I remember building on oasis after last AC 4 and we had trap just fine

[cloud ridge]

For the most part we've had hive spots planned in advance so it helps, but also depends on how nice and willing other state your merging with is

[wide wraith]

thats what R4s are for while they organise trap, i do the rest , only a small alliance which helps

[coarse verge]

Most have agreement which is actually nice

[cloud ridge]

Yup, usually it goes fine

[coarse verge]

I am not talking about arranging trap , I am talking about wasting towers on an alliance hive

You can reach spot of trap , remove towers and live

I saw people wasting every tower on hive

[wide wraith]

yeah we used our alliance discord voice and share screen to place towers

[coarse verge]

That is what we did last time

[wide wraith]

only 2 builders also helps

[tardy night]

It's not a waste if you're not sure if attacks will commence. Every second counts then for how much you can delay a march between an hq losing half their troops permanently between 10 hits or shielding.

Assuming 3 second hits, you want a decent perimeter so at least some people save troops.

If in an alliance which no one will hit, understandable perspective to hunt for rewards first

[soft gulch]

this part of merge is most sucky, building hive connecting to acs. creating area for AD

bright side is the dead alliances have automatically released prime oasis spots

[wide wraith]

with most states ignoring KE, size of hive doesnt matter so much now

[coarse verge]

Most states have predetermined seats

So no war expected

[soft gulch]

I think there are multiple enhancements that need to be done. Like

• Trap should define territory, just like Alliance HQ does, call it designated hive area
• Areas can be expanded using allaince research, no more need to build towers around hive
• Designated areas shouldnt have spawning of gatherings/deployments/fiends/zombies
• Build to ACs faster, no need to join corners manually, you do connect to AC and it finds shortest path, you need labour, but multiple towers can be built without waiting for initials to be finished

[coarse verge]

It is slow process, you get All ACs before the end of a month and then adjust

And I agree , choosing a location should take time not just drop and run

[coarse verge]

What state are you from?

[limber surge]

State of Survival suffers from serious flaws that drastically affect the gaming experience. The interface is highly inconvenient, usability is lacking, and the calendar is so convoluted that it’s nearly impossible to navigate. Event descriptions are confusing and fail to clearly outline requirements. The built-in translator causes numerous conflicts, leading to a massive player exodus. Instead of addressing these issues, you focus on opening new states and attracting investments, which reflects your focus on profit rather than on the players.

Think back to four years ago when you were opening state after state due to player overflow. Compare that to how often new states are opened now. This clearly indicates that the number of active players is declining, and your approach seems to drive users away rather than attract them.

You appear to be prioritizing a small group of players who generate the majority of your profit, while ignoring the widespread negative experiences of others. This approach is shortsighted and demonstrates your attitude toward the community that sustains your product.

If this course is not corrected, in a year or two, your project may be forgotten. It could be remembered in gaming magazines as an unfulfilled dream that, despite generating enormous profit, failed to retain its audience.

It’s time to implement real, meaningful improvements that genuinely make the game better, rather than simply creating the illusion of activity through pointless events and collaborations.

[dim marlin]

Ui Zyra. Well we can make feedback regarding this matter would be good. As if you like i can help you or you can make feedback using the smililar format in the mentioned channel

https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

[wide wraith]

why will we be forced to watch other alliances play in DD, remove any automatic link for lives from the notification

[uncut axle]

Had a few players report that the transfer event is broken and won’t allow them to transfer even though all the requirements and tickets are correct. As I’m not transferring I can’t give details but is there a game wide issue? Perhaps issue a bulletin if there is…

[solemn kraken]

mayhap the State they are trying to flee to isn't accepting refugees or strays... or both

[cursive vessel]

I suppose it depends what message they're getting?

[solemn kraken]

yes

[late gull]

Why did all my likes get reset when I transferred? They were given by people all over, not just people in my state. Silly thing, I know, but it makes no sense to reset it

[cursive vessel]

Mine did too

[solemn kraken]

that sounds poopy

[storm solstice]

Too many moved in already or you are leading state?

Part 1 - Gov can check
Part 2 - you can check

[solemn kraken]

might not be the State they (Baba) is in, so they can't check anything

[storm solstice]

Leading state status can be checked by everyone...

[solemn kraken]

even if you are in a completely different State, or not planning on transferring?

[uncut axle]

Think we are what you call a trailing state 🤣
Invites not being received seem to be a theme…

[storm solstice]

As said. Everyone in the state range can.

[storm solstice]

Oh, yeah. Need to ask Gov to check the amount of players transfered in already. 😅
Some groups choose to move to state and then the max amount of players to get in is reached quite fast.

[tidal apex]

What is the point in pretending to be so generous and giving ton of rewards in after migo lottery when most of them just stay unclaimed due to atrocious win chances?

[sage girder]

Could be various reasons, all depending on the messages each individual get.

Some get locked due heroes being dispatched somewhere, others above migration rating.

[solemn kraken]

idle rewards don't always reward you with anything you can use to progress in the game

the last Gem game, ah didn't get any picks from the Idle, even if ah checked back more than every 6 hours

[sage girder]

But you had runs where the RND was good, no?

But that at least gives you a certain chance of.

[solemn kraken]

sometimes, if ah'm lucky ah can reach lvl 10

[sage girder]

Well it's a lottery after all, if none wins, the money stays in the bank.
Correct?

But yes, I understand the frustration.

[tardy night]

then it should roll over like regular lotteries too for a higher jackpot the next go around eyy

[vernal moss]

It would be nice. It was suggested once before that if all items aren’t won it should really be put into a free distribution to random players.

[tardy night]

It's just funny how much worse this is than actual gambling dens

[storm solstice]

@limber coyote You are aware that you can select the 2 gems/conv units you destroy for the next level?
Bcs for me it sounds like your feedback #📋︱feedback-reporting message asks for this solution but it´s already there.

You just need to click on the 2 by system chosen and change them 😅

[sage girder]

In addition to what MKR mentioned, you can also lock certain conversation units if you want to keep and upgrade bad ones for later consumption.

[digital glacier]

That's why some people shouldn't be allowed to submit feedback for the general public to vote on 🤣

[weak ingot]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message imagine being told you can’t participate cuz you’re #453 on the power ranking, but when you COULD participate, you’re top 100 every time?

Couldn’t be me wheeze

[near spade]

Why oh why do you devs make it so hard for us to go to another state?

Leading, not leading, effing dead. What does it matter if you can keep ppl happy and playing.

Oh, I forgot. You dont care about that

Just open the transfergates and let ppl go where they want to go

[forest kiln]

Am I wrong or Pluton apperance icon just not popping up?🤔

[shut talon]

It does seem much lower.
I swear pluton was killed at least 15 times by now last time.

[forest kiln]

I just see history of Pluton kills ... but never actually saw Pluton announcement

[shut talon]

True, I'm not sure. Tbh sorry

[cloud ridge]

Not seen yet no

Could be another new feature or he's shy this time

[normal peak]

I’ve seen announcement but have not seen pluton

[vale yoke]

I've gotten so used to ignoring red dot notifications, I forgot about bounty blast.

[soft gulch]

There is an UX issue.

The fix xould be much simpler.
Just show the side stats of the units being merged, you can see them but requires clicking them individually. something like this, so you avoid accidental merges.

[forest kiln]

It appears ones in 4 hrs🤦‍♂️ No wander

[vernal moss]

This is an issue especially if you have a lot of gems in your inventory, it's very difficult to navigate as it freezes and just makes one give up. It needs to be simplest possible.
Usually what i've noticed is that they place the highest bp after it's merged. Which isn't always the right one you want.

[limber coyote]

How you do that?

Never seen that option…

[limber coyote]

I only do it because I feel a need for it and don’t only think about myself but also other players when typing such feedback

[digital glacier]

Writing up feedback that includes wanting a lot of features that already exist in the game is not proving feedback, it's providing clutter.

[wide wraith]

Apex Arena, same state AGAIN even after a merge, whats the point of it, wait is it just to give crap to the same people

the event needs to be deleted it serves no purpose, is boring and just eats up valuable minutes in the Day,

[storm solstice]

small red minus icon top right corner of each of the gems.

#📋︱feedback-discussion message
here you can see that

[digital glacier]

Lock gems it doesn't matter how bad the gen is if you have many to combine. It will prioritize making these first.

And to select what you want
What MKR just said.

It also keeps them from being recycled in a bulk trash dump 🤪

[wide wraith]

wish you could take certain events and bulk trash dump them

[digital glacier]

I like this. Only suggestion I have to that would be this.
It would place the check box for quick fill further away from REFINE, so that would also help in reducing the possibility of a slight misclick. As well as get rid of that funky stick out alignment

[wide wraith]

hats the point of Heist except the 28 hours of research speedups

[spark kindle]

None

[wide wraith]

ok thought it was just me who thought that, its getting worse than apex or the dumb kitty crap

[cursive vessel]

I don't even do heist, haven't done for ages

[wide wraith]

i used to enjoy it but when a fully maxed player just sits in the centre their becomes little point

where is the proper matching , oh wait it doesnt exist

and they think everyone will look forward to doomsday, only whales and ultrawhales will look forward to that

its not like the rewards are worth having

[cursive vessel]

DD is just for the ego boost. It serves no other purpose but I suppose it makes them money 😅

[wide wraith]

and they are dunb enough to think people will want to watch it

we will be lucky in my alliance if we get 10 people who want to do DD

[cursive vessel]

People do watch, I watched a couple (mainly friends in different alliances / states) just for the nosiness really 😂
Could probably be used for good / bad plans for RR too i guess

[stable cosmos]

You have to do heist or the icon stays on screen for 48 hours after it ends

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, i learnt to ignore that icon cause there's so bloody many now it doesn't matter

[stable cosmos]

I found 2 minutes in heist isn't an unreasonable sacrifice

[wide wraith]

my heist icon is gone thank god

now if only the apex arena one would go to

[stable cosmos]

Now if i could just get rid of doomsday, apex and koth

[wide wraith]

when will the devs realise that players dont want their crappy events especially the cat 💩 ones

i would rather have the mining thing and thats bad enough

[soft gulch]

yeah it looks nicer. 😄

some of the stuff in the game is unexplicably complex because of sub-par UX
this one is horrible because it can lead to destruction of good units

but it doesnt end here, transfer stat also has some wild shiz, you wouldn't easily understand why some transfer require 300 rainbow stones and some dont, they you realize "oh its cuz same level ... but wait ...it was ok to do same level transfers before" /jackie-chen hair-pull

[wide wraith]

the only good thing that happened this week was the merge, 1 it let me rebuild my hive and 2 got rid of throwdown

hopefully they will forget to add Throwdown back

[cursive vessel]

Haha keep dreaming

[soft gulch]

its King of the Hill in true sense, not that crappola UI game we play the day after CC

If you are big, you sit on top of mountain while peasant come running to kiss your ring
longer you get to sit there, bigger your epeen gets

if you dont get to sit there......when its over you share the report in AC where you boast about meeting <insert name of the whale> and getting whacked by him.

thats the point of this event

[wide wraith]

KoH is worse with other teams having a 2 or 3 to 1 advantage

[cursive vessel]

I actually don't mind koth but it is buggy, like most things are

And the matching could be way better

[wide wraith]

get rid of the tier crap, and only match based on numbers who are registered and it might be better even with all the other bugs

[soft gulch]

i dont mind 14 free lege frags, ports from both legions and non-violent messacring of weak opponents, its on sunday and I do it in side while usually having a family dinner

[cursive vessel]

I did say matching could be better 😂

Then there's no massacring of weaker opponents needed

[soft gulch]

that seemed like an afterthought to me :p

[wide wraith]

yeah its ok if you are in a big alliance but if your small but active and normally fight for the state but are not interested in KoH

i would rather have the day off, doing nothing

[soft gulch]

how dare ya

[wide wraith]

its like i hoped they would leave RR off after the mergses for a day off but no they decided to add it

they readded hero challenges without telling anyone, should have left POW off

let us have a break for once

and most of all Scrap DD

[soft gulch]

they get paycut if YOU dont show up at work. think about that.

[wide wraith]

good most of them should be fired for the junk they come up with

starting with those who signed off with the crap being put in the game

[stable cosmos]

Heist would be fine with a prize change. Most events would be fine with a prize change. Especially a gradiated change where ranks 50+ get more stuff, but its useful. Rather than just rss all the time.

[soft gulch]

this week's special was "purrfect jam"
i think they created that just cuz they wanted to use "purr" in the title of an event

[stable cosmos]

Top ranks could get less, but its harder to gain. Top could be a syringe, 50+ could be 20 potions.

Or something along those lines. Stuff that means both ends of the power bracket want to play and get what helps them

[tepid rivet]

They could give 10k local currency to everyone who hits uninstall button

Then those who still want can play whatever purrrrrrfect event

[wide wraith]

purrr💩 you mean, they should have left it in the litter tray with the rest of the 💩

[tepid rivet]

Wait for Purrrrth of Water Tournament 🤣

[wide wraith]

there is no way to defend it even the Mods havent bothered tryingto defend anything lately

[digital glacier]

There's a lot more they could do to make a lot of this crap a F ton better.
The problem is. They don't have REAL programmers.

I didn't bother wasting much effort on that because the chance S of them doing anything worth a F to improve the user's experience is very low.
I have better chances of giving birth out my bum to a T-REX blue whale cross breed.

[digital glacier]

It appears based on the number of bullets shot.
Also, stage 3 doesn't open until Jan 9. So whales, won't be using much. And jungle gems should be coming very soon to give a ton of players a ton of bullets. So that 4 hours you have now will mostly be cut at least in half.
Like I said. It's based on the bullets shot, so there will be some slow times of the day. While other times will be very very fast.

[analog breach]

And trap I think

[harsh owl]

Slight improvement as far as I'm concerned, it no longer sits on the main GUI but is in the "more events" icon/button. I can live with that.

[silver fractal]

I want to thank @sage girder, I never experienced someone so patient like him or her when i was using the whole day because of a specific personal issue i had. Thank you very much that you spend your time and energy for this community. It is amazing that this game is bringing up so nice personalities like you are.... (there is no result from the cs, i keep you informed, but it was a need from me to thank you in public) EDIT: Im sure that this is offtopic and the wrong channel but i chosed it based on "what fits best" in my eyes at least

[soft gulch]

Actually....no.

They have incredibly smart programmers who have cracked something related to visuals in 2 areas, which is quite complex for me to explain in fewer words.

Problem is greedy Product guys(my breed of people), who want to ship "quick and dirty". Its not a bad thing but one needs to be super agile to make changes after getting feedback and a/b data and various metrics, which they are not. A thriving community like we have here, they don't even need to see data, they can simply adapt to feedbacks.

Very good morning to all SoSages.

[stable cosmos]

I don't think they've cracked anything in visuals. Most of them are bad, the ui annoys the s--- out of me at times and the big exolody letters and stuff like that is so incredibly non-responsive to going away it doesn't improve anything in the game for me.

I may not be their audience. I like progressing which they don't let me do, and collecting things, which they also don't let me do. But theres enough to collect that you can even with no money.

[coarse verge]

Why we couldn’t have jungle gem with chips?

Can we bring back the intern who did that mistake?

[soft gulch]

Yes you don't think. 🙂

[soft gulch]

Slot chips?

[coarse verge]

Yeah

[stable cosmos]

You could try to explain rather than being insulting then. The graphics in this game aren't amazing. And the visuals themselves are mostly annoying. Can't see that they've cracked anything. Unless its just "how to spin up new models quickly"

I've spent a lot of time messing with 2d sprites in gaming and visuals are time consuming but never very difficult.

[calm meteor]

I don't think that was a mistake but when there are multiple events running, it's not strange we can't get jungle gems for everything haha.

[coarse verge]

I know, they should have bullets in the useless purrrr event then and chips in jungle gem
Plus It was a mistake, not the event, Funplus being generous
I mean chips makes more sense since it has growth secction

[calm meteor]

Well I prefer the chips as well 😂 it is definitely more useful to me

[soft gulch]

but you didnt ask me to. you said you dont think.
and if you dont think then how could I chnage your mind. 🙂

[soft gulch]

hmm...they did slot chips only once so far. should have done that, because impurrfect jam is not jamming with me.

[soft gulch]

of course they are, Dolores. 😄
wink wink

[calm meteor]

It has been done more than once I believe

[stable cosmos]

Still no reason for the insult. You could have said nothing or rebutted.

Perfectly willing to have my mind changed if its sensible.

Only thing I've ever seen from fp thays clever though is how they get people spending on overpriced tat. Some of their updates have been wildly incompetent

[keen narwhal]

bring back resonance voucher

[viscid ore]

Do you already know who Dev chose to win Doomsday?

Good morning

I'm ironic, of course

[crude stratus]

Probably VAL, LAM, VIP, OSS or DTS

[viscid ore]

marked

[wide wraith]

if one of them isnt winning, they will fix the matches again so they get an easier route and then live stream it, thinking people will care

for some reason they think its the stream content that attracts viewers, but its not, its the charisma of the streamer that attracts the views, most could not care less about the game

[soft gulch]

Skill based games can attract stream-audience even there is no VO.
This game is not.

[wide wraith]

true but this game is like watching one of those paint dry videos

[tardy night]

Funniest bit about the video they made for doomsday was how they featured the alliances

Hey look, we rigged the game for these idiots to give us more money. And some of them walked out on us after we said we couldn't dig deeper down the bums but we celebrating

Now the next hilarious circus is people transferring only to win doomsday

PSG coming to SoS 🔜

[soft gulch]

Weakening Aura is so underperforming, guy lost 175k-300k to me in Apex.
Didn't protect much in defeat, as it should've.

FP pulled a fast one using Hidden Treasures @harsh owl 😄

[tardy night]

DTS

Unless troll plays like he played survival apex.

[coarse verge]

Not jamming with anyone

DD will be a joke , the power difference in brackets after transfer makes you expect the winners before the game even starts

[harsh owl]

It wouldn't surprise me if there are a number of things happening there making it not as effective as it could but I don't have it to do any tests.

Also not lost on me that it might just be an expensive digital paperweight 😭

Maybe this needs to happen

@soft gulch what device do you play on and what was it above you were alluding to that FP Devs did that was great in terms of visuals?

[soft gulch]

I will check if this guy intends to upgrade, there is a 20$ pass which has come in today. I think he would 😂

[soft gulch]

Play on pc and Android, I will dm about visual stuff. It would be heavily technical

[harsh owl]

I just saw the pass actually, but if you plan to buy check here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925537726223237180. I would wait for them to fix that bug.

[soft gulch]

Oh not me, the guy whom I defeated. I won't buy it now, it will be $3 in no time.