#📋︱feedback-discussion
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What is the next stage?? I don’t even bother with feeding them. It’s a waste of time
I mean it adds up something on them right? Level is level, like behe level or tanks levels etc
Up to 10 levels only tho
Nope. Doesn’t add a single thing
Just for aesthetic
One of the changes no one asked for and is worse than it was before
I can't actually see the number of fragments I am about to use
What are these dots on the heroes heads for??
blue, red yellow skills, its ok i think
Hero style
Those are the Hero Styles. Red-Berserk, Blue-Control, Yellow-Resilience
They're there so it's easier to know what style the heroes in marches are now.
Yeah but some have it and some don’t. And one shines brighter
Is there anything except the hero style cause they already tell us the hero style in the March??
It's just so you can swap heroes to make a full set of resilience for example. Now you can swap without needing to remember what hero is what style, as it now tells you what they are.
All my limitless heroes have it...
Just the hero style. Like Lana said it's there so players can choose without having to remember every style
you can convert the frags, and the general gives 1500 points after convet, and you can use the normal hero fragments for more points! i think its better than before
ok its only power play
That's most definitely an improvement! Making progress, let's just hope they add this feature in the upcoming major events.
Would you like to spend a moment to make a #📋︱feedback-reporting about it, would be great to see a rare positive feedback sighting!
my english is not good enough to write a feedback 😉 its good for chat, but it's not good if you have to formulate or write something meaningful with multiple or complex sentences 😉
I could help write one up for you and you could spend a moment to read it to let me know if you're happy with it or add / remove anything from it. I mean, if you would like me to and open to it of course. 
Will. We ever be able to complete all the processing in this migo ?? I mean it’s like this everytime .. we have unused materials left over so much at end of nexus , because processing speed is very low , or we have only 3 slots
Positive feedback is very rare, I trust you completely, there are two pictures... maybe you could write that the direction is good so far, and we hope that the general fragment can be used for points at other events as well
The feature offers an additional slot but of course behind a paywall.
What i'd suggest is to make it known of the slow processing issue from either a poor conversion rate which is known or to allow us to either increase the speed via tasks / higher levels to increase the speed of the processing in #📋︱feedback-reporting
I'm positive you'd have a lot of players backing you
Well thanks for reply , I made same discussion last migo and it was ignored , and this migo too ..
I hope next migo will have some difference
I'll do my best, would you like for me to dm you the feedback before posting it?
It seems out feedbacks are delayed in being delivered from experience. But it's always good to have it brought up sooner rather than later.
This is likely due to the road map they have from the board, they're possibly 6+months ahead already in ideas and features in place.
Can you please write a report on behalf of this issue please
Certainly, would you like for me to send you a dm before posting it up so you can review it?
It’s headache because processing speed is low , and we have lots of items stocked up
Yes please
Thank you, but it's not necessary. I'm going to play another game before Nexus. I won't be paying much attention to Discord until 22 UTC. Then I read it and press the up arrow. 😉
conversion not working anymore, at least for G10 heroes.
youre right!
this conversion should be extended to all limitless heroes!
This is likely why they finally added in general fragments as a source for points, still a win, just not an entire victory, yet 
I dont think using general fragments directly for skill refinement are giving points, are they?
Puki did add a picture with the points as a source but i currently don't have the update myself, this might be a test state area or that ios is just behind as usual.
The points for General lege frags were always there, for <G7 heroes, in sotf.
just that for skill refinement they were not, but you could covert general to hero frags and get points.
I recall seeing in the next stage fishing was still there, this might be just a refresh of that screen and fishing may no longer be on the main page.
To my understanding; flash frenzy, future tycoon and block bliss will be on main page as well as the pass. but i will try to confirm this if possible before reset.
I'll try to find a way to confirm for you 
fishing was always 5 days event, 2 more days than Jungle or Mining.
I think timer on Christmas event screen is incorrect
Regarding the gen frags for Sotf and Svs this is a new sighting to see for older states i believe, i noticed power play you do indeed get points for using the gen frags but Sotf and Svs have never seen this source from what i recall for gen 20 states. I'll keep an eye out on this Sotf i have for the points and i can pop you a dm once i figure out if you'd like?
This is since we can't convert past gen 14 i'd imagine it would work
It's not incorrect.
Timer on the event tab is correct.
Timer in "twinkling joy" is for earning progress associated with stage 3 of twinkling joy.
Personally, it's not the time I hate, it's the fact a lot of players wait for later days to use their bait for fish, so they could (probably not many though) get effed in the a because they didn't do it when it opened.
Players who do the tasks for stage 3, late, when it's actually stage 4, should get credit for the stage 3 task, but they don't, they won't (99.99999999% chance won't) And that's the bs part of it.
@tidal apex
Thanks
Worst event is Nexus and fishing.
- So hard to catch the fish
- Nexus is just burying event for strong clan to attack player for RSS. I don't feel the fun anymore.
I love fishy fishy 🥰
I'd rather play fishy fishy for 1 hour straight than nexus 🤣
I'd rather do a lot of things than nexus 🤣
What would you do for a Klondike bar.
Na.
What would you do to avoid playing nexus 👈👈🕺
Actually..the fishing event ,is not really hard. I'm a f2p and I have 45k points..
Have you followed my tips and tricks that I posted in #1186388629904441434 ?
I'm working on creating a video and a chart about this actually..but this is what I do
Fishing Event: Tips & Tricks

Get from the store, as many blue fishes as you can .If you can purchase them all,do it.
Keep refreshing the fishes until you get atleast 3 gold and the others they should be purple fishes.
Get the Pro Sonar and the Ocean's Blessing buffs.
Once you are ready,activate both of the buffs
Choose the blue fishes and quick catch.
Make sure,once you catch the fishes that you want,to refresh them since the timer is there so you can catch the best ones that you can get.
That's a strategy that my friend shared with me and always works since then. If you have other tips and tricks about this event, let me know 
i would rather watch paint dry than suffer the fishing
I understand that the event might not be everyone's favorite and everyone's feedback is appreciated and welcomed and we can submit it.
I personally believe that it's more f2p than the most events that we had 
Somehow I caught more golden fish with regular lure than with purple or golden one 
Same!
That's what I do
I use the regular ones. With the buffs also
I be casting 10 purples = nothing, out of purples
Meh, I shall quick catch with regular 'golden caught'
I caught 2 S fishes, with the special- golden ones but I had to do that 1 after 1 fish.
For methe regular fishes always work the best
correct me if i am wrong but in Nexus to go for a lvl 5 city dont you have to be in the lvl 6 city
Liannin, if the devs decide to remove their blindfold and give you your dev chat, ask them if they play fishing event and if they like it
No
or at least have occupied it once so my alliance can go straight from a lvl 4 to level 5 without having at least occupied a lvl 6
The latter, yes
Also to track the frequency of idle rewards when collected.
I bet they'll really love that
I bet they would
Just why. What's next, animation of Behemoths for Behemoth crates and same for Aircraft crates?
got it now!
Ok seriously if an event does not follow it's own rules what the heck is it doing being on the event list at all?
Durability rules in Nexus as per the event rules:
Each building has a certain amount of durability
Buildings change ownership when their durability drops to zero. If multiple alliances are competing for the same building, ownership is determined by the amount of durability reduced.
A lvl 5 city has 1,800,000 durability my alliance reduced it by 1,200,000 and the building was then attacked by another alliance who held it until the end of the fight where the city was awarded to neither alliance.
As far as I can tell that circumstance certainly meets the criteria of "If multiple alliances are competing for the same building, ownership is determined by the amount of durability reduced." - if this is true then my alliance should have won the building as we reduced the most durability. Can someone explain why that didn't happen and if that's not how Nexus is working why there is clear inaccurate information in the event rules?
Did you still hold your Lvl 4 city constantly during this time?
yep
this is looking like a major event mechanics loophole that unbalances the event more than it already is.
Yeah only asking as holding adjacent territory is also prerequisite that's all, I heard say that if you lost it at all during this time then progress on lvl 5 would be reset but actually I don't know if this was confirmed or otherwise.
If you for sure feel this is a bug then it needs to be raised, first by ticket in game (Don't shoot the messenger 😅 ) then into https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1229859341054775326 bot report to ensure it's added to list sent in also.
If you need assistance with anything drop me a DM i'll help wherever possible.
hint, I can no longer turn golden fists into fragments of the hero I need? or is this a bug?
Previously, you could make the necessary fragments from fists and then spend them and get points in blood sport. Otherwise now for golden fists in blood sport do not give points 😦
Hello
, when you click on the plus sign does nothing happen or does it give an error?
it show where i can get new fragments for hero...but doesn't give me to convert it
old hero Magnus
actual hero Conor.
There has always been a conversion option(gold -> hero). could this be a bug? please report it.
Does this happen when you click on the plus in the gold fist exchange menu?
Did I get that right?
no. this happen if i click to "plus" on left hero fragment. if i click on gold it is , but i want to convert it
if click on gold = nothing happens
on plus - screens above
you can check in your game on any hero, dear
i play on PC by official client and fresh update(today)
Unfortunately I can't verify, but I more than believe you
Could you please report this error here?https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1229859341054775326
ok
I in turn will try to find out about this problem and if you want, I will let you know in dm
Still here. I don't have the latest patch though. Also this is mobile
This is what they took away from us

its showing the wrong stat here, it should be "Hero Final Damage Taken Reduction"
Did the durability reduce to 0 and did both you guys maintain a connection to it until that point
Damn devs
Yep. After update this option is lost. Gold frags no longer of any major use and should have their currency cost and prize prominence changed accordinglym also legendary frag use needs to come out of throwdown as it can no longer be done
Does still exist for g6 and below, but thats really not worth it. I only used them on strings because of hero challenge
On the fun side, they've utterly devalued their favourite item. No points in events, can't be used for anything but skills. Trying to think of another item with the same useless value level. Even rss gets converted to points when training troops.
So right now we cant go inside and upgrade buildings before it reopens
Future Tycoon feels like Small Village thugs
unfortunately no jungle gems for future tycoon, useless event for f2p
🤦♀️
i think tomorrow
If tomorrow comes, there will be 2 days left before the Future Tycoon event ends.
but at least still ez dice
Who made them take out the red envelopes event at tycoon? 😒
50 dices got me doen 10 laps and 200 coins. theres nothing worthwhile on the milestone ladder
Its not the usual Future Tycoon, its stripped down version, almost like the first ever version which came in last year's anniversary event.
It has no social game, no raids, no challlenges....plain vanilla lap compaletion race.
You can see that, all i can see is 💩
that feeling when you're a low spender, opening up your 1st legendary pet crate & you get a wolf. What to do now? Wish i could recycle it somehow.
Game broke devs. Fix it. Lmao 🤣
more players drowned in too many events...
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building is only taken if durability reaches 0
Xmas celebrations by having every single event on that's ever existed
Least they gonna reduce our marches 
so a completely absurd devs decision noted.
and also for the record not explained in the rules clearly at all.
the devs have a long record of incompletely explaining rules 🤣
This has never failed…
They continuously suck at explaining rules
yeah, they never dissappointed in dissappointing 😦
Hey, at least they don’t disappoint us there
You know what this gaming community lacks? Public social community aka Twitter community
I know just annoys me that when the weaker alliance actually manages to get more than half of the durability done and essentially wins the building by what's explained that's there's a loophole that comes that allows the stronger alliance to take the building and deliberately not take it down to zero. A loophole which frankly needs to be closed quickly.
They tend to listen to very very public social platforms cuz obviously it’ll taint their name if they continuously make their player base unhappy
it aint a loophole, have you ever seen a building being taken without the hitpoints reaching 0?
it's a loophole by definition or the event relies on a false premise. Either way it doesn't make it fair or right or balanced.
its balanced for back and forwards between alliances that can actualy fight eachother not a protection for smaller ones
maybe dont skip rules that dont interest you
and you will understand them

maybe don't insult my intelligence
and I care why? Was I quoting occupation rules? No I was quoting durability rules and the two are clearly at odds. It should never be the case that a rule allows that circumstance to happen it's absurd to say "Hey you don't get the building despite doing everything that the scoring metric requires you to do if the building is contested because an alliance decided to just sit there and not reduce the durability.", hence why it needs to be changed, the absence of balanced Nexus match ups, the amount of complaints about Nexus matchmaking and the amount of feedback about alliances not being able to take their first city unequivocally supports the position that ownership of buildings determined by durability reduction or even better occupation time (as that would solve the attacker advantage issue) is better and would be more useful in the event. And that's been case from the first round months ago.
I'm thinking maybe Marcial needs to read the Durability section of the rules once again
"building change ownership when durability drops down to zero"
how is it so hard to understand this?

If MULTIPLE ALLIANCES
If the end result was the game did what he predicted based on the rules that he read, I'm guessing he read them correctly. Just saying...
... Now you
it still needs to reach 0
Say it with me, Marcial.
yes

how many times do they need to put in the rules that it needs to reach 0?

3 aint enough?
If multiple alliances are competing for the same building, ownership is determined by the amount of durability reduced.
Yes, when durability drops to zero, HOWEVER if a smaller alliance does more damage to durability even if a larger alliance reduces it to zero, who gets the building?
Who?
Who, Marcial?
And that's what it seems Ninetails has an issue with
And he's saying it's a ridiculous loophole to what would otherwise be logical occupation rules.
Do I agree?
Nah I'm a small alliance leader. I love that stuff.
But for someone in a larger alliance, I'm sure it's annoying
aint a loophole, its a mechanic than can be used
it's absurd and I say that as an R4 in the smaller alliance in that situation.
I'd do it to troll if I were a worse person. Only do up to a certain percentage and then just sit there and wait for them to finish it.
if they have poor knowleadge of the rules they will take it for you yeah
Thanks for finishing it off for me buddy, here's your consolation prize.
But if it's a weak against weak... May the least weak win. And then it's hella annoying
if they actualy know what they are doing they will just deny it
and take the occupancy rewards on the next nexus day
Oof lol
doesn't it reset at the next Nexus day?
But yeah, that was the portion Ninetails took issue with, not the overall durability reduced to zero, but who takes ownership in the case of multiple alliances.
It's like if occupancy was last hit, and some little guy swooped in to take it at the last second. Sure, they used great timing and strategy, but it's extra annoying and creates some bad tensions
it honestly should not be possible - an alliance reduces 1.2 mill durability of 1.8 mill that alliance should be given the building regardless because they've done what's needed. Was never possible under the MM occupation rules but that's me getting on the other big issue I have with nexus.
ive seen 3 man alliances struggling to take a level 3 city, putting it to down 100k durality and fail
it is what it is
which is a failure of an event - there's 3/6 alliances in my alliances faction that can't get beyond their first level checkpoint. Forget the zero requirement, take it out of the equation and have the whole thing on durability reduction if that's going to be the metric at least then every alliance can reliably take a certain number of buildings, the weaker ones won't win fights but at least you get everyone to have a chance to do something.
game aint balanced with dead alliances in mind
game ain't balanced full stop
if anything thats a complete failure of the matchmaking
If the building was ever taken before those rules don’t apply
I know
god knows the matchmaking is absolutely horrible in this game
in pretty much all events
I cannot complain with matchmaking well tbh it’s either really easy or really hard
there’s no inbetween for me
I fight the same alliance 2 times a month when I look over my shoulder I see them
We always get matched up with big bully clans and it is very upsetting to constantly fight these bullies
Fire cleanses the soul. The bullies are the ones who run
we got bullies in our own faction... zeroing their own team
Now this is real bullying
i cant say i never done that
alright
we have been the bigger alliance of the two in our faction if we zero our second we stand no chance and both nexus they have played well so it works out😅
Can we get a feature request that asks for our consent before we get attacked and gives us 10 to 15 mins of meditation time to properly prepare for the victimization?
i rather the fetuses recieve my warm embrace than from someone of the other faction
hey man I see 88/89 collectors burning it’s ok
Everyone suffers the same fate sooner or later
🤣
They need to remove it where it takes you in your settlement
anyone who comes out of the final battle with any troops hasnt fought hard enough is my motto
And nexus troops shouldn’t take rss to heal nor should people be able to take ur rss In Nexus
Do we get troops back during nexus? My r5 always says she isn't sure
last nexus I was spam burned over and over again lost 2 billion rss just trying to help my alliance besiege
why heal? just have more troops
Yea sorry let me open my wallet of magical money I found in the tree out back
not during but we do after
to get some more troop speeds
my troops aren’t helping me againist a full maxed player with fully maxed behemoth
dont be stingy with the bios
this guy hit out my 6 millon troops and lost 500
Did you report him for sexual assault?
i drop from 13M troops to less than 200k on the last day
Sounds like a skill issue
So you need 900 laps just to get half decent reward? 🤣
always been like that... devs need more whale milk for christmas
As a fetus... I object!
why would anyone from opposing faction take a city of their own faction, it reduces the buildings they can hold needlessly and faction points remain the same regardless.
Defending is better.
You get kills, which is what the event is about
more like the implication is they make logical sense... which they don't, and they're badly organised.
We have logic?
If that's not in the TOS for funplus, it probably should be🤣
When is "after"? If you mean when you exit Nexus, yes, it immediately goes back to what your troop amount was before entering Nexus but when you enter Nexus again those troops aren't recovered.
I can no longer send marches with behemoths against an enemy, only Infected Fiends. My infantry was reduced to 134,329 .Had a bit too many massacres last night.
There are no troops in my hospital. There doesn't seem to be a revive troop option and I won't say more on that because we all now what FP will expect. Ain't happening.
I've updated the game, reset the game, repaired the game and nothing has changed. Inside of Nexus those troops are gone.
What will be interesting to see is whether these troops will be gone when Nexus appears next. Not during this timeline but during next MIGO.
This is probably one of the reasons the R5 of the person you're responding to wasn't sure about what happens to troops in some aspects of Nexus. They may never be brought back or maybe they will be reset next MIGO. I don't know.
Tbh I think we'll have Duels next MIGO
she says hopefully, hating Nexus more every day
But regardless the reality is that if you read the rules and plan strategically for the rules as they stand, whether they're fair or right or wrong that's simply good strategy.
i never said anything about if they were logical, but they are written clearly as is - IN THIS CASE, because i know there are times where they poop'ed on their own rules
you clearly understand this because your argument changed very quickly from 'the rules are wrong' to 'the rules are illogical'
You and I both Liannin (and howdy, a direct hello has been long overdue - apologies).
I knew I hated Nexus for a reason but last night helped me pinpoint one of those reasons more accurately. Alliance Duels I'm okay with as well.
those aren't mutually exclusive.
I'm glad to see you emerged from months of work relatively unscathed, my friend.
Can I join your clan?
you atacked people, troops lost from atack die permanently in nexus
I like the way you think and also agree that rules shouldn't apply even when clearly stated. Down with the patriarchy
Duels still needs fixing. Game mode where you can't play "because" is stupid
not bad you caught the trolling early, some people are still stuck in the mud
I mean, to be fair, Cyan, the whole game has stuff you can't play "because". Usually it's just because you don't spend enough money, sometimes it's an amorphous idea of a concept of a reasoning.
can we have the train back?
It's been five long years of variations of this.
Escort Missions?
So, same as attacking invaders in your hive during Nexus?
most likely correct
Some things you can't play because of money, or time zones. Duels locks you out because of other peoples actions which i think is worse
It was the one that was only in some world events and then got pulled prematurely so only some people actually got to do them. I did not.
yeah, troops lost on defense or buildings go to hospital, direct atacks on settlements die
We do a version of it in another FP title and good lord. It's... Something. It's slow.
We never got the escort trains. Have the thing as part of freight but never saw the original. Apparently it was rather good?
At least for prizes
Bring back underground
but i think it'll need more difficulty scaling at older generations
I would prefer if the one there was more similar to the one I was preparing for here, because in that one, there are no loot drops. It's just two depot points and some NPC coming at you.
They don't do difficulty scaling in this game. Except explorer trail,but only sort of
they do in the sense that higher level trains are more difficult but it capped out at level 10, which we were clearing with like... gen 5? 4?
they'll need to scale it up for states with more gens
but i doubt they'll bring it back so that's moot
you sure you using the right one?
it works on my end
nvm that is the standard
if you try to teleport it shows but standing still it doesnt lol
I mean you look at trap. The first infected is a formality at this point.
Yea devs scammers as usual
This is like lara croft all over again. Damn scammers
we need 50 more hourly events so we all can quit. thanks.
you dont want 3 jungle gems at the same time?
yes 10 jungle gems that give only biocaps.
Parden my Francois but the Jester skin looks f'all.
Not just that even that Mecha Santa looks crap.
I would love it actually 
One needs 6000 dices to get the top prize.
This is the altar whales will die on.
Condition apply*
Track shouldn't get changed midway
Cheapest deal for dices I found so far is 50 dices for 3$
So 360$ bare minimum
Not my favorites of 2024 but does your take also include the Premium Jester? The standard is pretty weak imo but that's the way most standards go anyways, hence the label.
Not a fan of either Santa, Premium or Standard.
Fun times...
didn't like any HQ skins.
but loving the Christmas Spectacle, sucker for the lego/minecraftish artstyle
They got me with Starlight Metropolis (Premium) pretty old now from the 1st anniversary event and Nightmare Harvester (Premium), easily my favorite of this year.
There are other nice ones but I don't have those, and might never get them since the good ones are paid in pearls or from an event, while the skin store remains the SOS discount bargain bin.
You can never go wrong with most things LEGO themed.
Starlight Metropolis is gorgeous (you can snag one up for free from Funplus member zone if you have points).
The beaut is in the chromish detailing on the side, and if you look at the older Zeppelin themed HQ they did, this was a banger.
If you have that cyber girls HQ effect, Couldn't have nailed the Cyberpunk elements any better.
How you guys recognize the skins by name tho🤣
implying you should read the rules more than once
Implying they haven't ever been arbitrarily changed as per company discretion.
Lel
"read better"
that's why you need to read them more often, to see when they change things, duh
💀
I’ve been saying this for years. That was the best event for spenders and f2p ever… but if they bring it back now, they’ll make it terrible.
I was excited for dice when I heard it was coming but they changed it and made it worse. NO WAY IM SPENDING A PENNY ON THIS. It’s just worse… getting those tickets would be the only reason to play and it’s EXTREMELY HARD AND EXPENSIVE to get… you can go round 5 times and get just 40 tickets and the store cost 1k and above for valuable things… definitely not participating and not to mention, I have to get from lap 20 to get anything in the lap rewards cause I already have the frame and March skin maxed… POINTLESS
I have completely ignored this their Christmas event and I thought this would make me spend something but NO WAY
Wait a day or two the gems will come. You will get a dice.
Yeah but that’s not the point. The previous one, you could get better rewards and it was easier to get the tickets and other stuff… this is just beyond ridiculous
He was in the state 1333
Agreed... now it is a side event and not a main one. But that's how devs think.
I agree. Last one was better where we could also steal some currency from other players to level up our buildings.
It was in S1333? That's good to know
Exactly... I had to create there to see how things are going... I don't like surprises.. and also ptr didn't come either
That's smart. I used to do it as well but I am stuck on character limit 😂
Thank you for the info
Yes haha. anytime. 😀
You will get one at reset
These are asset bundles, not necessarily bundles for sale, they can have just anything
the previous ones also had you competing against other players
v1.22.90 reward selection best than v1.23.00 more like downgrade
totally agree
I have a quote strange thing going on
Yesterday I made a Tempest piece. And for some reason I can not find it when I wanna list it. But I can equip it
I can see it there. But not when I go to list. I only have 36 pieces im keeping and when I counted pieces I could list it was 35 including those with a cooldown
Ive restarted the game etc several times since yesterday
Still can use fish bait tomorrow right?
How long do I need to wait for this premium skin to finally make it to skin store... pretty sure I've been waiting like 2 years now 
You should be able to. The event description does not mention any time for event settlement so you should be good.
half way there
just checked, timer says 1d 10h (give or take a few minutes)
I know as soon as I spend them it'll appear 🤣
this skin is from the time when artists were told to draw inspiration from WW2 buildings/
So I noticed the dice from the previous tycoon (mostly from people's eggs) no longer work.
Yes, different tycoon different dice although they look exactly the same.
Yes, they dont work, 12 in backpack from last version
It's not the same tycoon, so it's not uncommon to have different items. Making them visually distinctive is just a bonus in this realm 
But they sold people eggs in the understanding the rewards from them are worth something
This is first run of Tycoon, last anniversary, rewards are basis of laps completed.
But even that one had...stages.
And it's got the same bug as the full version of tycoon. If you select 10× and have 10 dices left, it only uses one and you've got to do it all manually still.
So those different versions are definitely family, sharing the same faulty dna.
Noone, not a mod have heard of this? Ive seen it several times but its never taken a full day before the gear turns up in my list for things to sell
got cheap green Gene-link from deployment
they placed it right on her face 😆
Yes and that’s better… no matter what your position was, you get rewards. Now you get nothing except you spend
I am achanging my mind about Mecha Santa, it looks good with my cheap wings from anniversary. Those wings have height issue.
Sadly Ill i to use another skin there will be too many mech santas. Wanted the fancy Jester but that wont happend
I'm playing a zombie apocalypse game, I'm playing a zombie apocalypse game... ommmmm
v1.22.90 much better than new version
Especially for state still limitless Gen 12 or lower
All zombies are dead man. Back to real life. Paying to much for nothing and getting ignored by the mighty
FP isn't known for their mastery of foreground and background elements, with some odd overlaps at times and the wings definitely have height and placement issues relative to some HQs.
But you did well there, the wings look purty on your Mecha 
Huh? Who? Where? What?
17k I wish oml
when clicking "+" sign sends you to store but there are none to buy
halfway made event again 🙁
Can we have this march skin in pearl store ???
Bite annoying can’t complete set for morale without this march 🫠

Hi aka, we can definitely make a #📋︱feedback-reporting about adding this skin to the march skin crate. I've seen this in the skin store a handful of times too, always good to keep an eye out on there.
Seems so, most of the mechanics are probably copied from old versions. They may add them in the coming day or two. However i'd encourage to bring this up to CS and with a #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot
since it's a now problem.
i'm f2p there is no CS for my kind 🤣
No CS for spender kind either
Ask Nanami, she's CM of the year
She's too busy not doing her role
hey i just submitted the report. let me know if it's good!
Are these minimum requirements a joke? It’s a 3 day event
I agree that the minimum requirements are high for a 3 day event but unfortunately it's not a joke.
You can make a feedback report requesting lowering the minimum requirements here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in the channel or you could reach out if you need any help 
It’s ridiculous. Only top 3 would maybe make first rank out of 20 if they keep it up and forget the rest 21-100
Instead of 5 different chats at any given time, can SOS devs actually work on group messages instead or a way to provide state and alliance rules to players not on Discord?
It's right before Christmas. They may be counting on people already being in senselessly-throwing-money-out-for-useless-stuff-mode.
They want money Jen Jen 😂
Roll out the money

Rewards for 900 rounds are 💩
It’s advertising rewards that people can’t even reach. Top 20. only 3/20 can achieve if they keep up the same spending daily to reach 1200 turns 😅
The most funny thing is we already own these wings and stuff but they did make it possible to be upgrade 😂
Wait for new years. It might be in the event shop
They gotta make up for the money loss from DYZ somehow
Would it be more acceptable "minimum required score" if it were 5 days?
10 dice doesn’t even necessarily give you a lap.
No, players are asking for less time consuming events and less bundles. Should remove it all together like the good old days
They should make mines individual for everyone to see only their own mines, so that states can't do dumb asf rules about assigning only rally leaders to lev 9 mines
They should make migo mining less of a pain and triple the occupy sizes of 7+ mines
You will generally never step foot in a crystal mine, as you need so much lime and coal, doesn't help that crystal prices of items are really dumb
In an ideal world they'd just make whole process easier, but they refuse to.
Oh, well, umm, do you know the dice event is actually 5 days and not 3 😅
6th day is for the store. Not using dice
They should really just give players the revenue we would earn from mines without having any mines on the map anywhere. The map is like a child's room with leggos scattered all over the floor 🙈
Mines can only be occupied for 24 hours without refreshing.
They could legit place a 24 hour idle rewards timer on the "crystal mine" event. To accommodate what I said above
It’ll reset? Bottom right
That's a better idea i prefer idle rewards like that instead of these trash mines occupation
@vocal zephyr same concept, just with this and not fishing.
Fish task stage 3.
Fish event still going.
Now it's dice event.
Same thing happens.
Big difference though.
Fish event don't have 24 hours to spend items in the shop
Dice event does
And dice event for F2p lucky to be able to buy more than pearls 🤣
F2p fishing can get a fkn statue. So yeah, everyone can easily see between these 2 events, what they care about.
Dice = 99% bundles to play
Fish = 99% free to play
Dice have 24 hours for store
Fish dont
As the upgrades on the stupid winter building are temporary and what you get out of it overall isn't that useful f2p, there are some TA materials but you can get them mining too, i jump ship to the crystal mines with 2 weeks to go. That at least is store currency.
Yea but i see it as, the extra stats we f2p need to be able to rank a bit in some events like nexus ad etc
Even if temporary they help to get other type of rewards from events, even svs
We've had that skin for years now in the 896-884 state range. Maybe others, but I can only confirm for 3 states.
How old? That was actually my first march skin back in 896 in early 2022 when I didn't spend on anything, and I've seen it appear in our bargain bin skin store many times since.
I don't think the overall stress is worth it and the ranking is based more on your activity and being in the fights than how good you are at said fights. Your rally lead has more bearing than a tiny buff to health
All they did was make it easier for me to decide how to spend my time in-game and avoid their temporal dark pattern.
Genius flex right there.
Im not trying to compete with a rl lol but within the other players below rl rank
Your daily reminder that Block Bliss is terrible
No i mean being in a building with your RL will do far more for your score than the tiny buffs to lethality. Thats not gonna earn you a lot even on an hq hitting spree. False economy
You're looking at rewards but how much do you consider the training speed and capacity buffs.
I mean, those hold a lot of weight in itself like Michelle said. It helps with scoring points in events.
And it's not just about scoring points, but maybe that 500 capacity and training speed puts you right at 24 hours for the troop tier you'd prefer to train to make it coincide easier with stuff or 36 hours too could work as well
I mean, those come early. And fairly easier. But as time goes on, sos making it more annoying.
They auto claim mining mail.
Why not auto claim my fiend rally and intel mail too 🤷
Why not auto claim completed intel while you're at it
Is VIP Draw actually a thing?
Actually reducing my training capacity now cos its beyond that 1 day mark and proper annoying. Speed would be ok but its not enough of a buff when considered temporary for the effort and stress around getting to lvl9s and keeping them
good to know there is no real reason to push for vip13
Yes, except the quick use button for buffs.
Though I don't find it much useful to be honest.
it showed up today in the Skin store
It's not the premium one, udham
Your ss is midsummer bonfire. Premium is Midsummer Fever.
I like that skin as well but never had the chance to get it 😂
looks the same, lmao
Haha it's not same
I mean, it is the most iconic route in the US...
Yes, but I have seen Highway 70 and 69 frames as well
vip draw does not exist at svip levels.
I like to ask the dev what am I suppose to do with worthless stuff in my package like 1,115 Eric Hero Fragments along with other items?
anyone know why this is on one of my accounts and what the 3rd icon on the Gray Wolf is??
Hello Mike, I know how frustrating it is. We have one feedback about it here:
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
upvote if you agree with 
Who actually asked for pet breeding? We need names. Asking for a friend.
Wolf is not in pets training I think so
but all the animals also showing as infantry lol
You also look for a yummy special to set on fire?
Thank you that you ask for me. 
Got the fillet knife ready.
Optical error.
It could be from that really popular thing back in 2017, that uses that Layer 1 thing that's ranked no.2.
Clearly, due to scams I'm guessing and not wanting to have Discord be the next Telegram in that sense, we're not allowed to talk about that here.
It’s all 💩 though, they create those community events and incentivise providing ideas, then claim it was a ‘suggestion’ from the community - when someone just thought of any old crap for rewards
this is so ridiculous, I thought things couldn't get worse after all the stupid new features but here we are
I think we passed that point a while ago 😂 it couldn’t get any more ridiculous at this point, nothing surprises me
On top of all the events … who has time to nurture a mutant pet…
It was probably from that survey we took about pets
We have no way of getting pet material anymore so let's give us a way to get more pets
We have almost no ways of getting pet materials after intel finished and they roll out another pet related feature 🤣
We asked them to bring intel back but it was too hard to do
Instead we will be getting pet breeding 🤣
But we wanted pet breeding 😂🙄
Since they make all our wishes true I wonder when is Telettubies collab that we once joked about 
Too limited in charcters.
Wait for the Smurfombie collab... That's kind of longterm collab by near endless amounts of charcters that look similar
We got the upcoming pokemon daycare now, we just need a ditto and can include some shiny pets 
There is pet breed suggest in feedback channel ? They totally lying so smooth 🤣🤣
Ocean Drifters MIGO here.
Is the last one even possible?
From memory, I think you just get it from top 10 state and top 20 cross? Or maybe 50
Upvoted
doubt a 'family-friendly' zombie-killing game would have anything to do with 69-ing


Have you met Ash? She has special not-so-family-friendly physics.
Well. I didn't send my train out near reset.
Nexus starts at 18 utc
Train departs at 18:03 utc
I'll probably forget I need not join nexus on my main for 3 minutes 😂 so train fails to depart today. Woohoo sos for screwing me stuff cause you can't get 💩 right
only 'Ash' ah know, is a one-handed God... or some annoying little brat who tortures monsters for fun
what is this symbol?
Don't forget the very family friendly
- Gorilla sausage
- Sausage towers
- Angela
- Tomb raider loading screen with sem en demons
- Nekkid wave rider
It's a phamilee phriendlee game
Oh. And the random gen 12 bunnies or the recent resonance heroes
Take a very wild guess
Definitely hard to fit a bred lion in anyone's mom.
"don't eat pets"
Mom jokes are so 6th grade do better



This makes my bad days look good 😂
I just came to see a notification I had and here all this is lol
nr 1
lol
Have it plated for the kids to admire. 🤣

You ever get the feeling someone is trying very hard to troll only to later complain they were moderated?
I can't explain it
It's just... It's uncanny
hmmm
I dunno. I'm supposed to be doing trap right now, but like... I'm glued to the spot. Maybe it's the power of friendship
In any case, it looks like companions are .. getting their own pets. Is that right?
Did I get it right?
Pets are breeding.. because apparently we want to be able to breed them 🤣
Nah. You're....thinking of family of other random discord members.
Do continue. Tell us more
Or does it have something to do with our breeding operations? Man, the economy of our survivors is weird.
Go back and read the first post I made
Once more. 🤣🤣
Don't say that name around me. You know how I feel about that Yam- coughs - Yama- I can't say it.
It's rare an NPC has induced rage like that
Tape need a rewind?
Take a breather paron. 2 weeks off. Spend time with the family. You need it bud.
How dare you not just directly answer the question and instead rely on critical thinking to match the icon with the mechanic or feature.
You monster
we get it, Spamolot, you don't have a clue
Actually I would like to know which it is. Pets or breeding.
Or both just for funsies
I'll just sit over here.
I wonder if it's the wine that set this off. Or just it being the weekend 🤣
Tape does need rewinding. Only goes back to 1st grade every
..5 minutes
You dont like spam?
Why would it be rewinded if it wasn't loved. Keep going. Show us the extent of your cussing 
no
Aww
ooh
Now we're in the "ur mom" phase of Internet fighting it seems, how wonderful
Welcome to the internet
Dane ♥️
I can't decide which is worse, this or the ppl writing wall of text essays making zero sense
Dreamy 
Both 🤪
"this" would have people making accounts on other states to talk it out directly. I assume essays only have people raging against fart+ 
I wish, I support those fully
I would write novellas about my frustrations with f+ but I'm just lazy and I already type stuff all day 🫠
MOD should make this the new story topic
“ my journey in SoS from gaming to frustration “
😂😂
Currently in my imagination 😂
I’m so lucky to receive this wonderful gift. I can’t wait to unlock wacko
New dna skills will definitely lead to a resurgence of wacko , Daryl and joker
Right? 
You mean the stains little Andy Zhong leaves in the shorts he sleeps in?
Why 18 utc event time are so rare to get now ?
these are the new heoes in 130x states they have given at beginning
Well, at least they haven't oversexualised the woman this time. They actually look like people who might be in an apocalypse.
No men in spandex though.
Zach and Jarrett r not new
The was replaced
There's must be a dude whit huge hammer
Like football player
Yeah.. can't remember all their names😂
Nobody in old state can forget Ernie 😂
I remember them only because have acc in s10
The time joiner or any one can be hero wall defender 🥹
For reserch purposes

Good evening Tally

What were you all discussing 
Ways to depose of funplus board members.
Why 18 utc events r hard to get
U write decompose wrong😅
I was just making tallie uncomfortable not making her bring the banhammer 
still have him 😊
Omg i wish we didn’t get it
We got 18 for nexus… and literally have like 5 people because our alliance is mainly made of asian people
Aww.. but it's good for usa and European players
Yess… i think they should try to offer people first or at most second time they pick 🥹
18 was out last option, and only chosen because we needed 3

I think they give always last time u choose 🤭
Then i should change my strategy
always chose the option i want last
The question rose up why customers are not all happy even though everything is maxed. I think I found the answer to that.
It's the devs way to tell you how disappointed they are in you for not paying to unlock those additional lots.
To that one might say... something that's not family friendly 
I’ve noticed the rating increases if we do the Fair Chances
I totally missed the upgrading environment, slipped out of my mind.
And of course bad UX.
Well.. I unlocked them.. and my customers r 95% happy
They r like those 9/10 dentists recommend that toothpaste 😒
Just threw out 45k coins for that. No change in rating though. Also just used my two free megaphones, no change either.
I had 90% 2 days ago and after i used my megaphones it went to 100, have you always had 90% since the event began?
No, I also had 95% to 100% in previous stages, but there I had the additional lot from the building permit won in Chances. IIRC the additional lots just unlocked with the current stage I'm in right now and customer happiness sank with that.
I've also got no megaphone items left though, so currently I can't test that theory.
The only ones that are pay for are the ones in the first round, after that all who open at the end of the round/begining of the new one are free for everyone
Only thing I don't have ..is maxed decorations
I have 100% yesterday
Don't know why happiness dropped
I'm not sure about that. I think when I got that building permit, I only had one additional lot to unlock at the bottom and left and right came later 
It's something else.. because I got those 2 additional buildings from start.. and till yesterday my happiness was 100%
Today is 95
They were 1 on each of the 3 sides that was locked and needed to buy the permit, i got one for free with one account and bought them with the other
I’ve noticed mine drops also even on the account where i have all of thr buildings
Yes.. 3.. my bad
Yess.. so strange..right?
But it went back up when i used all my megaphones
Ohh that's sneaky
Ok, i shall believe you. So what reason could there be that devs... errr customers are not fully happy with us?
Do you see anything on the feedback? Any non positive reation? What does it say?
Megaphone r hard to get as f2p
Yess.. i got a lot with the jungle gems
U need to spend more for megaphones
Then u r lucky..
I can reach hardly to lv 30ish
Lucky isn’t a word for me

But I didn't get any additional megaphones since the day before yesterday I believe.
I got 35 but i spent the 99 ones in the first day
Yes sadly i’m out of them to test also
So, the reason might be this. Care to explain how to install digital shelves? 😂
Like other troops say.. f. She's stronger..we join her army 😂
Is that a bear.. who like to steal ppls picnic baskets?
I checked on my account who has 80%
And the negative feedbacks took me to the pet and to the statues

I also used thr megaphones (i had 30) but didn’t help this time, it kept redirecting me to the statues and pets
Sooooo.... it's not paying for lots. My bad. Buuuuuut.... 😂
I will forward these questions, of what really determine the “happiness” in the Fair and of i get any concrete answers i will reach out to yoh 
Thank you! Btw, how do these messages on the message board redirect you?
Ah, it's not negative feedback, but neutral feedback in my case. So no clue for these.
Have the devs asked the customers if they liked the fair? If Liannin had her dev chat, she would have gotten an answer from devs for sure
Not so far I think.
I have a feeling they’re also happy depending on which of these things you have
Did you improve environment to lv 4 too?
Im just asking for a friend here. But the odds here has to be wrong
I just did a rather large fuse and the odds still seems wrong
But what strikes me as strange is that its always the gray ones that get Diamond frames. 🤷
That's actually an indicator for odds dropping with rising card quality there.
So they might have added odds drop based on card quality (the lower than 10% the better the quality gets) and never bothered with updating the description.
I just do ten at a time so if I hit the diamond card I can get rid of the extras. Not sure if that’s the best approach. 🙈
I think the cards more likely to go diamo.d are also much more common cards. I have a bunch that fused straight there, but a ton of golds that haven't changed despite 10+ attempts on them.
Usual fp bullsh on odds. They'll just be lying. Again. Just can't prove it.
I kinda did same last few times. Never once anything good go Diamond. Did a mix of 150 blue and yellow framed. None went diamond. Did another with gold, had 3 diamond on 15
So i guess technicly they arent lying
Its just a little sneaky
I wonder how many will actually hit that limit... currently 50th and only getting more from gems now 😆 and still not even ⅓
I bet most people are honestly just pushing for the guardians
Yep, I got 230 for wings 🤣 and all from flash sale for cheap 😆
When are the penguin sentinels coming out? 
Yeah I’ve had the unfortunate lyck of traveling during this and even then there
Oh that’s an old event i think
You’ll be looking for a rerun
I've never seen that one in event
And been here since before introduction to sentinels 🤣
Unless it's a bundle event
Prettyyyy sure it was one of the ranking rewards or something garbage like that for top 50
Tho i cannot confirm
I know there’s been a few sentinels that have been ranking rewards and instantly written off
I wannna say bounty coins ranking rewards?
Or whatever the event is called where you shoot at zombies instead of playing the game you paid money to play
Wasn't that sentinel a doomsday RR rewards for top 3 in event or something like that
Yup
It was from doomsday or whatever last "fancy" tournament was
Alongside the polar bear skin and the awful artic wings
Yes I thought so. Only set of wings I got
It was Doomsday Open.
This reward is similar to Leviathan's Lullaby from Path of Water: The Summit.
For certain event rankings these rewards aren't obtainable later on because that would impact the underlying logic and reward system, which are largely psychological, and this isn't a dark pattern.
Endless games have exclusive reward tiers and if everyone could later get them morale and motivation to participate in the events by top spenders, grinders, or both, would be impacted.
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We get this
And this is clearly a 50 shades of grey reference
But we are supposed to keep this a "family friendly environment" 🤔
You got devs introducing R rated movie references
You got devs doing pet "fxng"
If devs gonna allow all that,
Yall need to edit the bots bad words filter
Allowing devs to say and do one thing, and not allowing us players say and do the same thing in their "official discord server" is a bit hypocritical, don't you think?
how is it even possible they can breed unless these juveniles are operated on to add the hard points for the weapons or are the weapons bio-engineered to grow with said weapons or with these juveniles themselves be less powerful???
and having studied genetics, with the gene-pool being so small, how will the obvious gene degradation and highly possible further mutation be shown
Sarge's wife was basically topless but when shared here, it got deleted
its one rule for us and one rule for them, always has been
what if you have them all? and the pavement maxed to 4? you still get a negative review
and clearly the WRONG answer
Mods, wake up
Hmmm , true , even then I appreciate you put this in feedback. The event creatives went bit creative sarcastic. The options kinda like how players sarcasm in game and jokes. Regardless it's Rated R movie but a famous name. But yeah future need a little bit concern over it.
Is there a schedule for next transfers already?
Unfortunately we don't have any official schedule yet for State Transfer, i would suggest keeping an eye on #⭐︱game_information as that's where the information gets posted 
There used to be a whole channel about state transfer.
There still is a channel for state transfer https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1201119648305918003
Made me giggle
Well, if that is the gift for your hard work we can see why we didn't get a 12 days of Christmas theme.
They'd actually have to give us something as decent as Santa would, for a whole 12 days or risk being the stingiest Santa that ever was
I don't have access to that one. Assume theres some role i have to click on. It should probably be globally available rather than locked behind a role
I mean i can see whats in there, but i don't have permission, which is probably why its not in my list
I would say that it matters that there’s exclusive stuff that can never be obtained so someone who obtained it vs someone who joined later will never be able to win
But it doesn’t matter, there’s always new stuff being introduced
That is strange, i see players without roles posting in that channel, will let a blue know for you
But it doesn’t matter, there’s always new stuff being introduced
Absolutely this. There will always be the next thing.
More importantly, the next thing will be more powerful, or they won't be able to sell it.
And since it will be more powerful, while their userbase doesn't entirely consist of billionaires, the oldest stuff will be nerfed and devalued. Always. To create demand.
Want to confirm something.
If you are an older state, or have an account in one:
a: Have you stopped having KE?
b. If yes, what was the states reason?
Never really had KE except on accounts that mostly left. The bulk of KE has always been done through CC.
KEs prizes aren't worth the drama or the killing of a state. And if you want to kill the state you don't need KE as an excuse
We're pretty much the same. Hit inactive settlements and then just participate in CC.
Literally. KE is mainly like "if you have a grievance, duke it out at KE, or stay mad" but otherwise people are just slapping inactives a few times and focusing on FF and CC for points.
Because, as Cyan said, the rewards aren't worth the drama or server death
Not even close
We do and don't have KE. In my state, we did make rules governing KE just in case, but mainly we govern ourselves with common sense. Everyone waits for CC because otherwise, it's just not worth it.
KE is alive only maybe 1st 6 months of the state, after - it's meaningless. And after 3-4 years - SvS ones in a month is enough. In our state since this MIGO we have KE 24/7 🤣 - merging went wrong & we've got a team who killed their previous 2 states... now they killing 3rd, just because they can... no other reasons.
Frankly, half the time, I forget to even do Cap because I don't feel the rewards for any of it really reflect my needs as a player at this time.
Girl say what? I'm so sorry...
Oh, that's very very interesting.
Jjjj, I still dont understand why ppl come for CC ... I don't do it last 2 years. All I hear "Just close minimum"... which is 10 or 14K bios? for this minimum ppl spend all day some time. I dont understand how it worth time & rss spend
I can DM you what our formal state rules governing KE look like, if you want, Future.
That would be much appreciated Liannin. Just trying to gather thoughts and opinions from other states/players before I float a couple ideas past some folks in ours
same.
My state is pretty good with CC, because our intended governing alliance is left to get the occupation time needed, and then the fight is left to other teams. We mainly battle for towers during that time, until the Cap is free for open battle.
I'll get that to you in a minute or two 😉
Hero challenge rankings based on total points
Basically they're gonna do what they did in the dragon game and make rankings align to whoever has best hero aka whale. Gg
They can never beat my Rusty 💪
If it's the same bs, they will make you use only latest gen heroes to qualify for rankings by pushing power creep into attack stats of hero in explorer.
Everything else will hit for lower points.
Hopefully it isn't that.
Seriously? Another jungle gems and all I have got for the last 12 hours is biocaps? Is this what it comes to? Spend money in order to get anywhere?
something decent? like a lump of burning coal?
blame RNGesus
He obviously doesn't like you
One of the things I wanted to propose in my last state and might where I'm at now is that top alliances not do Cap for X amount of time and give the next tier of alliances a little bit of time to shine.
I'd have to dig into this further because if a key difference between the top alliances and say the next 5 or 10 by total BP is maturity, that could go sideways pretty quickly.
Not to say that all top alliances are always the most mature themselves as many of us have experienced but I have literally seen players in the top alliances and much smaller ones complain they never get a chance at Cap or it's always the same 3 or 4 rotating out Gov.
We can't or shouldn't just say "well tough luck, power up", because in some cases it's a bit more complicated and recruiting is harder for smaller alliances as any strong player will want to be in a strong/top ranked alliance.
Maybe that whole ROI thing and other jazz or just wanting to win by virtue of their combined strength.
But really at this point, a lot of the top alliances don't benefit from Cap and as a state progresses you have to start chasing people to be Gov. I agree 1000% on the rewards, and please don't get me started on bunker rewards.
good evening, any jungle feedback to downvote?
not yet, but they will be here soon enough
Bunkers are pointless but they admitted that they can't do anything with them 😂
One thing I just noticed is Vehicles, so I don't think this playbook of the next thing being stronger carries across to all aspects of the game.
We've had Gen 2 for awhile now but since Gen 1 focuses on Berserk it's recommended to focus on those over Gen 2.
I guess the question here is are folks mistakenly focusing on Gen 1 or is that the right play over Gen 2? Is the information shared and found in most searches outdated?
Gen 2 berserk vehicles aren't out yet. I presume here that they know which gen will have a meta advantage(like Stacy) and a semblance of counter balancing is still attempted.
With gen 21, they are probably gonna ramp up yellow wafaa replacment. And that makes red vehicle important again for gen 2.
Translation: We couldn't figure out how to further nickel and dime players without it being blatantly obvious, it was taking too much time away from pet breeding, a giant hawk, pets and other new revenue vehicles so we just decided let it be and just tell players when asked that "we're still discussing ides" 😅
I think it's because they have spaghetti servers and they can't actually find the bunkers and the rewards in the mess they've made 🤣
They'd make a mess trying to do anything with them, so they chose not too
But yeah, pet breeding, awesome, just what everyone wanted 😅
Got it. Thx, Chek 🫶🏾
Yeah, that was totally NOT on my 2024 bingo card, but here we are 😬
At this point, they're running out of ways to surprise us cause nothing is seemingly off limits.
Well, other than actually adding something zombie themed. That would be a surprise 😅
I would absolutely be surprised
You know that scene in Jurassic Park where they see the dinosaur for the first time and dude kinda sits up in the jeep? That.
Like omg.
That's a zombie.

So here's what I've always wondered: why do our pets have to be alive? Like, what if they were infected animals Yamaz- I still can't say it - he somehow managed to find a way to tame (because apparently he can do that)? They don't even have to be overtly gory either, you could totally make zombie animals cute still.
And then the breeding program would be moot because zombies can't breed.
That's a winning idea right there.
And it results in no weird breeding programs because really why
Why
So basically, we are gonna be using Berserk heroes for 3 gens.
Gen9 - Derek, Arthur, Essie
Gen10 - Derek, Conor, Essie <---I am here
Gen11 - Kyle, Conor, Essie
And FP didnt release Berserk! vehicles.
Now, a lot of players did
Gen10 - Laura, Cardini, Grimm
Which was losing bad because Cardini and Grimm are 2 gens behind and it shows.
What happened - If we use any of the G2 vehicles (Control or Resil), a part of skill doesnt trigger.
Which makes the vehicles weaker compared to G1.
Now there is certainly stats advantage in G2 vehicles, but in practical, the missing skill part is what making players to still with G1s.
In fact I wrote a feedback about that, but our Discorders are dum-dums to understand these nuanced points, they downvoted to abyss, of course.
That's because it's a zombie thing, apparently you can't have zombies in a zombie game 🤣
I get the idea of combining things for other things, I do, but pets? I'm not running a puppy mill...
I do have standards, thank you
pet breeding 
Not many, but enough. But also, it's just a strange thing to add now when that maybe wouldn't have felt so strange when pets were introduced in the first place - which I still think was also a bad idea but if you're gonna do it, then do it all the way
And that's not even to mention the issues with pets themselves and the limitations of upgrade items after you finish radar. Sure they're in some stores and such, but you're not really getting a whole bunch, are you?
So it's just not something I'm personally interested in engaging overly much. There's enough to do as it is, and I'm not gonna also worry about breeding pets I can barely remember to check on.
Rather than just giving more pets in intel, they needed a new way to do it. Hence trying to make out that people wanted to become breeders.
My pets haven't changed since intel stopped, cause there's no materials to do so and there's more important things to get from event stores in my opinion
Right?!
On top of everything else we're having to do, pets overall just feel secondary. If they're seeing disinterest in that specific mechanic, it's because they've limited it in a lot of ways.
In no way does that mean we need to be breeding pets for more pets, when we aren't even doing anything with the ones we have.
I'd have to release the pets i have in order to do anything with bred pets. Doesn't seem very feasible to me
This definitely missed the mark completely
And even if a pet breeding mechanic were something most of us would actively embrace, they've made it so engaging with it isn't palatable for some.
I do hope they know this will not be as successful as they had hoped, by a long shot
Yeah, i think this one is going to be a major flop. Can't see most people spending mega amounts to just breed pets
Same, and it makes me wonder if even they know that, and this is just the "meh" feature they drop before they add something much more expensive and desirable as an alternative.
Just a little something something to generate revenue but not overly much to matter if it's less successful as compared to other future features
I'll never understand their logic, though, so the conspiracy theorist in me runs wild
A distraction to something bigger, like a 3rd behemoth 😂
I shouldn't say it but I can see it happening at some point 🙈
I feel it in my bones
Also the cold. I feel the cold in my bones.
Tbh it's the collabs I'm dreading.
Because you know they're coming.
You just know it
The collabs are always bad though. It'd be nice to get a res hero to a good level for free
My donatello(?) is the only one I have and he's just painful 😂
I'd love an SoS renaissance where they brought back some of the old stuff
Like the old, popular things. (Daryl Challenge please please)
Underground
Stuff like that
But I doubt they will

No probably not, everything is getting more extravagant (maybe not quite the right word) and time consuming instead
Are you maxed?
Unpopular opinion Collabs are nice.
they have to make skills worthwhile for older states
which makes the heroes OP for newer states
the balancing gets done by dmg, newer stats have less dmg and old states more
but you get a nice reso hero whoch is gonna last for a while
Like Ada Wong, excellent Reso.
I am pretty high, not maxed, i would've been maxed if they had not dropped the Doomwheel vihocles in the gacha as they did initially before separating them
What's the cost gap between where you are and global max, 90 collection,2k morale etc?
my whale would be that
Not the whale, you.
I am 71 collection, 250 morale, 160m behe
So approximate cost gap, according to you. For what's already in the game for people to get. What would it be? An estimate.
cost in terms of $?
Yes
Cant guess for morale of collection, its a huge spending and driven by luck also
but yeah I can max my behe without ultra rare for 1000$
Ok. may I ask why did you ask this question
You're calling people dumdum for not wanting to add another 3k$ to that price tag
When just working on what they have currently will win them 99.9% of fights
NO!
B.
0. Probably the drama aspect 🤣
- Can get points elsewhere.
- Too hard to burn most actives
- Too much troops lost that's needed for rr, nexus, svs, etc.
We told you before. The skill triggers. The additional part of it doesn't. And the additional damage won't significantly alter battle results. 
I am calling ppl dumdum that they burned their monies on a vehicle set which is inferior than one they are already using, and completely ignoring the skill part.
And because berserk werent available, I asked for making the vehicles style-agnostic, and like ret's they downvoted it
You are still not understanding where the meat of the skill is.
G2 vs G1
The G1 skill part is guaranteed, but G2 skill part is hero-style dependent
And when new, it causes issues if rally lead that most people don't realize 🤣
Your issue even back then when you brought this up, was that you thought people were not doing full red heroes and instead using only heroes of the same gen.
Yes?
I swear this morning I seen a Doberman Chihuahua mix.
Chihuahuas shouldn't be allowed to breed. They're just really high pitched yappy large rats 🙈
That issue is separate. I didnt like what they did on G10 it was a bad planning. Control<Resill<Berserk<Control
But Control are simply unusable in G10, i stated reason above.
Issue with vehicles is simple, they made the skill style dependent and there is less usability when we have 3 gens of berserks.
Here's how G1 is outclassing G2s, because the skill is not being triggered
@tardy night chek, still there?
Then use gen 1 vehicles on red march till they release 👀
I have yellow tanks for yellow main march and gen 1 tanks for 2nd march
Even though red march still seems to be dominant currently
Still, there's times people's vehicles are weaker than mine but outperform, same as pets but apparently that's down to stats, even though I've been higher in stats on some cases 
My full position is that, people should be able to use G2 vehicles as they did with G1 vehicles, by making them completely hero-style-agnostic.
Difference across various vehicles in the same generation should come via variation in skills. the stat advantage is aleady there against G1 vehicles.
They still can, just won't get the hero style bonus
I've seen people use blue or yellow tanks on completely wrong heros often enough, most of those seem to also be whales who just buy cause it's new
so the screenshot I put above is from a buddy who instead of continuing with berserk went with Laura-cadini-grimm setup and he ealises at one point that its not working.
So he switched to BEserk but since he was simultaneosly raising control vehicles he went with them for stat advantage. And we had this convo and he was totally blown over by the diffeence.
so now he is going back to G1s.
Control heros seem rubbish still, maybe will change next gen, kinda like how yellow was dominant then red is
#🎬︱developer_feedback thoughts?
For hunter G1 Tank way better than G2
Thoughs..well.. I personally liked that some things that we have been asking for a while, will actually happen ..What are your thoughts about this though? 
A mixture of things, really. Mostly surprised as well, naturally suspicious, but also curious.
For example, the feedback says they'll adjust Nexus again. I'm hesitant to consider that could be a good thing, as experiences haven't been the greatest, but if they're actually taking into account our needs or intend to poll us a little to determine what is fair and balanced, then maybe it could work.
Or when they discuss the Hero Challenge ranking. That actually doesn't bother me a bit, but I do think that f2p had a better time in the beginning of Migos doing hero challenges and ranking well if it was based on time completion. With points, I'm concerned it would lead to a different set of issues, and I think knowing what types of ideas are being tossed around would help us to help them.
I am going to laugh if nexus speed run is the next change to it. One day they'll figure out we don't want to play an event that lasts 2 weeks on a sodding timer.
Give us 5 days to speedrun to the center of nexus, 1 challenge daily to give your whole alliance a shot. Lets US pick the time to do it.
Nexus fight I'm unsure about. There are 2 options. 1 is independant if time, the other relies on it
Also if they’re re-working Nexus, the faction thing needs to go. The team that wins is the one lucky enough to have one more active alliance than the losing team
But last time when we complained 5 days of Nexus was too long, we got 21 days, so may be better to not complain. Devs love making things worse
Hello, you can post about it herehttps://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 The Nexus is really too long and the last one fell on Christmas Day😕
I'm sorry, what's the alternative to the Nexus?
I like Nexus. The old style was better
Hello, alliance duel😊
I think his first version was the best
I'd already forgotten it existed😌
Agreed, mostly.
I wish the fight time was open 24 hours a day, for a 7 day period. F this 1 hour timer bs. To demolish a building wasting stamina and tapp tapp tapp. That's all I ever do anymore is tap tap tap.
Preferably during a slow week like throwdown? Maybe 🤷
Every 24 hours a new City level unlocks
I was more thinking you could go from lvl-1 all the way into the nexus. No declaration. No waiting, just how fast you can earn all 3-4 cities and the villages. Fastest alliance wins that portion. The 5 days open time is to allow multiple shots to set a best time and give more of your alliance a chance. Only your best time would count but it lets more people have a go even if they set a bad time
I also think the beseige needs an absolute base damage so a building can be demolished in a relatively set time so weak and smaller alliances can do something. Given how much i do, and I'm not very strong i think a base damage of 5000 with your bp layered on top would be very reasonable.
For weak and low active alliances it's impossible for some cities to be done, so a set value would be nice to make it fair and offset a whale alliance who equal × normal players in a hit
This nexus i do prefer layout wise, you can get screwed though at same time depending on starting zone but least generally you can't get locked into your spawn zone basically day 1 😅
Length of nexus is a no no, a joke from our constant asks of less events and shortened events
If made like MM when it was just a week at set time each day then it be better, long as the time was feasible
Matchmaking also needs an actual matchmaking and not the current bs they pull, in our nexus the other faction has two "whale" alliances and we are the strongest on our faction with no whales.
Meaning Nexus is a no no already, we are forced to level 4 cities if lucky
I don't really want the first portions to be a fight. I believe the fight should only be for nexus. Its unlikely smaller alliances even get a look in there so being able to demolish them in the leadup will just make them not bother.
Tycoon ends today ?
In this case, matchmaking would also need to consider the number of active players in an alliance and not by just strength. The number you have to help clear makes a big difference. Maybe this would be a better choice if we did registration like RR or KotH but can include all active Players the R4/R5 want to register. But not be limited to a specific number.
Ends same time as gems ends, so like 2 days
Cities and checkpoints be pve, nexus pvp?
Thank you! I went to go look. 😂
The stage tasks make it look like it ends sooner, but only cause it's tied to carnival stage just not full event length itself.
Next event I assume will be the cloud one, but we'll see
All the events happening this month
Not really like there events, just same money spending with a different theme
Instead of dice it's megaphones, it's magnifying glasses etc
Where it says? Timer says 26mins tho
Stupid devs im confused
I wanna know if i have to use my 💩 before reset or not
If you look at it from the Event Billboard, it says 2 days and some minutes.
You still have time. ☺️
Wouldn't need to make any real changes to their garbage matchmaking. Whales are still gonna win. There is literally no change here where matching is concerned.
Small weak alliances won't win. Strong small alliances are in the same boat. The only place it matters is the nexus. Which losing alliances currently cannot participate. The change in style would allow them to be part of that fight
They wouldn't win. But could earn points. Step 1 of which would be drastically reducing the points from an HQ hit. If anything you'd want them attacking the nexus/towers with you in there cos its worth more for the both of you
Thats under what I'd call option 1 for the nexus fight. Option 2 is just how much damage you can do in an hour and has no pvp component
I agree definitely with the value put towards HQ hits. As it is right now, you can win the merits ranking without even touching the nexus building. We should put some feedback in that puts more emphasis on the buildings to win.
I think it’s definitely important to put the emphasis on the buildings to get what an Alliance needs to win and not be able to get that from ignoring the event and just zeroing players. #📋︱feedback-reporting message I hope you’ll give my feedback an upvote. ☺️
This all requires the devs to listen. I chucked all this into camp cafe over a month ago and got some bios out of it.
Given they're tweaking nexus again i don't see too much point in further feedback this cycle, we see what the nextus brings and then feedback for that one instead.
Very true. Without knowing what the changes are, we could be providing feedback for things that are already changing. But if not, I’d still like for them to take this into consideration for the future. 😎
If you check via carnival it'll say it ends today as using dice are linked to current stage progress
If you check the event in the actual events tab however it's still two days
So if you want to complete stage tasks with dice use now, if not can hold on for two more days
Ty guys🤗
curious to know how old the style system is. Controls are basly shafted as of now.
I wouldn't be surprised if control becomes top next gen
Cause for a while it was yellow heros, then red began to dominant current gen
So could be above shift to force spending
As why bother with the current worst heros
For Control to become TOP, style it preceeds should be Berserk.
I need to research G12 onwards, is there a simple chart availabe for heroes across gens, i guess not.
Style system only came in last year. They botched the first release incredibly badly. Like, broke the whole game. It was hilarious. P13s were bouncing off hq9s and getting very angry.

Is anyone else having trouble claiming these rewards?
Hitting confirm does nothing
No option to burn hero gear designs in the material furnace?
Seems broken, hasn't picked up any top up for me so far either...
This may have been mentioned before but tempest arms is a 🤬 💩 mechanic
I can see that it still hasn't recovered completely
Convert hero gear designs to treasure capsules, and then burn then.
I got more points for converting hero gear parts to treasure capsules, so i did that
Its a bad idea unless everyone benefits. Otherwise f2p are shoehorned into a single thing and whales can beat them even more easily with the direct counter
I think issue is more with implementation.
i am able to beat someone who has better stats just cuz i am following style, he has mixed and matches. I have better behemoth, 30m more than his, but style-follwoing is allowing me to overcome morale benefit that he has, If I has more morale than him, in stead of 200k-300k fight that is now in Apex, i would crush him.
then there is a guy who is following control and able to beat me comprehensively in apex, he has to compensate for stats via tempests and collections (cuz he is using 2 G7 heroes)
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on other note, power difference is so huge between whales and f2p that we need to give that discussion a rest cuz that gap will never gonna be filled. last svs I got burned by a whale, but it took him 5 tries, reducing my troops 300k with every attack, getting troops to 3.5m, nevertheless I got burned.
i cannot imagine an f2p withstanding his 1 blow.
This minimum points requirement for 21-xxx is absurd
any feedbacks on this?
Ahahaha
Devs say less thinking and more handy handy the cashy 🤑🤑🤑
Becca hasnt found her father yet, she should stop being a nag (which she is quite literally) and reunite with her poppa and momma julie
Whales burn me in 1 shot. Nearly 16 million troops not enough to withhstand 320k from a whale
Thats mostly because the base hit mechanics are stupid. They don't hit 16 million troops, they hit a normal march,and if its demolished it gets replaced, with another normal march. This continues until the turn limit hits. Or something like this. The jist is though that they just beat you over and over until the turn limit hits which results in millions of casualties.
Literally shouldn't work that way. Either they face 16 million troops. Or they face a normal march and win, which means burn and resources taken but not 5 million troops dead in 1 hit.
There are so many things wrong with base hits right now its ridiculous.
Totally possible.
biggest hit I did was 6m troops.
and biggest I have seen was of 12m troops by a whale who has been dewhaling for a while now. 😄
it goes through like a hot knife goes through butter.
I will do some digging, and this may require a screen share or a BR, but can someone tell me what statue, series of them or skill would result in excessive wounded infantry?
Is this from the new Gene Link? I don't recall having this ratio of Infantry to Hunters and Riders either permanently lost (Nexus) or 17 days of healing, and this is the 3rd batch meaning, it's like without speedups I'd have over 50 days healing?
Were you reinforcing constantly in a battle you kept winning?
Myself and others kept sending reins until we started to report in the losses weren't making sense and we should stop doing that until we figured out what was happening.
In Nexus it was definitely more losses than wins, lots of massacres, hence the unrecoverable troops but in CC we were holding steadily/winning but there wasn't a ton of effort from other alliances.
It seems the bulk of losses came from this one player who is a kraken, not even a whale so I'm trying to peel back the BR now and see what I can find there.
Was your lead running a turtle is the other one. Or joker for some reason
Leonardo, Vera & Nara and Lara Croft vs. Selena, Michaelangelo, and Angelica
What I'm most surprised about is they added a lot of stuff but report mechanics is so outdated now that you cant even see full report about bonus attributes or anything. Anyone know if those last suggestions got mass downvoted or just was not cared for? As it is now you wont even know what joiners are lacking or if doing bonus heroes that gives bonus as joiners provide anything anymore you cant see it. The reports mechanics need to be more advanced its as simple as that. Some have posted great ideas about this in the past, but its like nothing is happening about this we just added genes now too its fine but give a bigger report information with the joiners too of their attribution. Report mechanics is so outdated its crazy fix it - We have been lacking it for a year now and only gets worse the more there is added.
I think there is some hacky stuff which is unexplainable hence they chose to hide a lot of that.
But I would like turn by turn log of skill firings and damage meted out/protection given.
In games like these transparency is what will make it interesting for people. And they find small hacks for their builds to improve performances.
Like Apex, its amazing, I could see the impact of any upgrade or change that has been made.
While I 1,000% agree, I should have used all the sections labeled "detail" and "comparison" and then clicked on all the subsequent icons in areas like heroes before asking my question.
I didn't realize every icon and TA image etc, are clickable so this will make it easier to find out what exactly happened during Nexus and yesterday during CC. Hopefully.
I already see some troubling areas where our RL and us as joiners have some work to do.
Who had leo? You or them? Mikey has the 10% increased wounded skill, so if you were running him and as infantry dies your hunter casualties will get much much worse.
I don't know what the twins have. Don't have them to check skills but increased wounded is worth a look
First side is us, vs. is them, so we had Leo and they had Mikey
I can't say then. There is a possibility some really big whale complained about the turtle skill and they reversed it so it applied to the opponent then never changed the flavour text.
Otherwise there is something somewhere that causes that. With the sheer volume of bs attached to marches now i have no further idea
@storm solstice your feedback report don't have emoji to upvote
Wow...Bot is mean to me on 4th of advent...
Maybe try post again
Or ask mods to add manually
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Pls add Up/downvote options. Thank you!
I´m such an attention seeking bloody Banana
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Thanks for letting me know 🙏
No problem buddy!
Thanks @rapid phoenix 🙏
You're welcome.
This is now fixed, you can covert general frags to hero frags ....again.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Jungle gem, level 30 ad 31 are PITA because of that Solitaire Green Gem
I dont want to write feedback cuz something f'all will happen if they take it up
But today it ate up 12 of my magnifying glasses
It will always be worse with a revamp
Uhm did KotH stop giving honor coins? We kind of need them for the new store dont we
Shouldnt there be some honor coins in there ?
During season ending
Oh wow they dont come until season ending.. then those prices in store is quite wack
Also end of each round
So need to wait until the next match, so every 2 matches you would get them
But i still wanna know what does winning in koth mean. Is it rank 1 per round? Because being rank 2 is a win over being rank 3 in that week
If there was less bios and more normal buffs it wouldn't be an issue 😏
Upper bracket is 1st place round 1 and whatever ranking round 2 for that reward
Middle is 2nd place round 1
And so on
Hello,please apply an ability for F2P to break a whale in KOTH.
I have to send 300 marches to kill a march over 500 million BP.😒
I have nothing to do in KOH except dying
It is Funminus, not Funplus
Every KOTH or RR ,I just get disappointed about the game
Dev need to fix this 💩 of assign food to people
Its hard enough being an r4 or r5 while the stupid thing is smaller then the screen itself, why not but the selection box to fit the screen not like we gonna send marches and assign food at the same time
Like literally
Look at the small box vompared to the rest of the whole screen
I'm actually surprised you or a mod didn't correct me by mentioning the the Santa's Gift free gifts each day.
Not interested in the Zippo and the gifts are megh but it seems FP is giving something.
I guess the part about decent gifts might still be warranted 😅
took me a while to find those free 'gifts' as well, second character got some thing good (the frame) the first time, but both have gotten flaming coals ever since
Glad you found it, for the frame at least but yeah, they could have done better
t was the same in the Fair: second character got about three of the Mini Clanks, first character had to buy them
KOTH rewards seems downgraded.
And Matchmaking remains the same. Feels so bad for other two teams.
Instant Gathering
Can we get an update here please?
- An alert is triggered if another player is going for the same RSS. We already have this for Infected Fiends.
- Instant gathering isn't actually used unless the truck touches the RSS, so if you decide to recall and let someone else take the RSS instant gathering isn't wasted.
the sooner they scrap the KoH format the better, registration and matching needs to be based on the number registered
Sounds about right. My 2nd alt has more URTA (Ultra Rare Tempest Arms) than my main and the only reason I eventually got URTA on the main was due to reforging
speaking of, what exactly do you have to do to Register for KotH?
Google "how to register for king of the hill" and the 1st or 2nd result should be the Wiki Fandom page
I thought I asked if a mod can allow us through the powers of AI and url sanity detection to post wiki fandom pages here but I can't recall if I actually did
Have your R4 in your Alliance to register you
ah pick the three (or four) times, but it keeps telling me mah alliance hasn't registered...
it has to, specifically, be the R4?
R4/R5, they have to pick 3 times (the ones you pick is what you want, but he registers after all)
After that, he needs to register players for Legion 1 and legion 2
will have to check the ranks and see who is R4 or R5
ah believe the problem may be the register players part, doesn't seem to find anyone to register...
Pls upvote
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
she is allone in an alliance, to few people to sign up i guess
First time I use this, I win on my lucky number 1 🤣
Koth has zero tactical play.
We chole up opponents near their base and they make beeline to get killed.
Rarely we get a close match.
whale alliance 
but whole sos has zero tactical play anymore tbh





