📋︱feedback-discussion

[dry violet]

It clearly says 15 days on the rewards

But they’ve only gave us 3?

[west fog]

They do as they wish now. There are seemingly less and less rules for good business practices that they want to follow.

They'll probably say it's a bug.

[digital glacier]

Personally. I do like the attempt sos made to change things up. And convert our saved tokens to new items that are definitely more rare to aquire.
But.
I have major issues with the entire thing.
So, for starters, I do understand there is going to be 5 currencies going into 2. Which will make the more expensive items currently, more easily attainable. But, there's a catch. It's technically more expensive.
The currency conversion, new cost of items shouldn't change the current ratio of cost effectiveness just because the stores are being "combined"

Then again, there could be several "iterations" of this.
Because if you know LUCKY SLOTS EVENT
You might see most of the same materials in state 1 and 500 and 1000, BUT the cost is definitely different. Because of the rarity of the item at the particular states age. So the shop not having heroes could very well (slightly) be because of this. Doubtful, but hopeful.

All sos had to do was simple math. Very very simple math.
To put thinks simple here.
1 hour speedup = 250 rr tokens = 250 koh tokens = 14 conquest = 140 bet coins

Ok. So
Step 1. Svs token
convert all svs token to rr token (3=250)
Easy
Step 2., for any items that match, increase the rr sop quantity that much. Simple right? I think so.
Step 3., change the remaining price in svs store to reflect the "rr token"
Easy (item price÷3×250="new" price)

Repeat steps for KOH, koh bet, koh conquest, etc etc etc.
Then.
Add in items

And even on top of that, they could also add showdown store into the mix to this as well using the items from there too.
They're making 5 currencies into 2.
But they could have seriously just made it 1.

They really did an absolute 💩 job at keeping a lot of the players happy who liked buying the hero capsules, potions,, etc mk1, MK2 frags.
This is definitely going to hurt the gen skip states just a little bit when the time comes because there's a little bit less every week for them to get in comparison to players who got to take advantage of this. So that's a whole other issue there in itself.
They mentioned they were going to make it easier. FOR WHO EXACTLY?
There's a ton more sacrificing going on for the "not so valuable" pet injections... Hero syringes... Stat Reforge... Just saying. Maybe if stat reforges didn't cost am arm a leg and my first unborn child to reforge a stat more than 3 times, then I could actually see some value in the price they listed. But with the amount required to do it just twice, it's crazy.
Not to mention, they think some of these items here are worth their value 🤣 gtfo
I feel sorry for anyone who need chief gear materials.
That's not even all the issues I have with this or the problems that's gonna come from it.

There's tons more people don't quite realize just yet how much this is going to change the dynamic of the game.
Not just for pvp but the future of sos in itself.
People don't think where this is leading and what's gonna be next. Well, I wish those folks the best

[normal nacelle]

I said something similar yesterday but its becoming common for them to describe one thing that lead to folks spending (HQ so many days/perm) and changing the item mid-way or after after taking player money. Its not a bug or glitch when it happens several times a year. Its completely dishonest.

[digital glacier]

The crazy thing. Recently there's been several implementation of my suggestions that didn't make the top 10 feedback and weren't even suggested by other players. And none of those things that got implemented I see not a single soul complaining about them. Not 1.

If only the devs actually hired me, lord knows how happy everyone in the game would be and how happy the devs would be for their huge income they've never seen before in the history of this game.

[normal nacelle]

its to bad they dont ask for feedback before doing things

[digital glacier]

Curious to know from you.
You like or hate or no opinion
On the shortcut migo icon that was added?

[tardy night]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

[digital glacier]

They got only a portion of my novel I could have really written 🤣

Remember when they originally released koh and it was the same token 🤣
Only took what, 2 years for them to undo what they originally did rofl@tardy night

[normal nacelle]

i said earlier as well...one store - one currencies.. remove any complexity possible

[digital glacier]

They remove 3 currencies, but also added crowns.
So, they're just reducing the currency by 2 in total 🤣

But they're "less stress" terminology 🤣

[tardy night]

I'm waiting for the live store. PTR store value is so dumb 🤦🏾‍♂️

[normal nacelle]

i often think of a new player joining this game today -- the complexity of it all is crazy over basic game play

[digital glacier]

They have to super inflate the svs token otherwise there's almost no point in it.

Oh, on a completely different topic here.
Anyone notice the effortless progress tasks (airplane, Helicopter) disappear when you max it.
But things like, chief gear, hero gear, medals
Don't disappear from effortless progress once you max them.
(not sure about mk1 🤣)

(not sure about crystal research)

So inconsistent....

So, if youre on your main and got a max airplane and wanna use EP on your alt.
You might think airplane EP is gone 🙈
So, you'd actually have to look on your alt before you go complaining.
Kinda sucky tbh.

[woeful hemlock]

Why there isn't any ranking If I raid?

[digital glacier]

Because then you would automatically be 1st in the event.
The new raid feature is cheating players who have dedicated a bunch of time to play consistently. Only to be easily outdone and outranked by someone who can buy unused raid passes and quick raid.

[woeful hemlock]

You can't buy raid🫠

[west fog]

Who would buy used raid passes though? Don't give them ideas.

[woeful hemlock]

It's not easy to complete a stage especially the excavator is maxed now

Even If u raid, you can raid those level Which u haven't passed

[stable cosmos]

I've had a couple of my unimportant suggestions go in. Not stuff that would ever hit top ten

[woeful hemlock]

So this isn't fair

[digital glacier]

Spend money, or play, die, keep playing, die, keep playing, finish level 11-2 instead of 12-1 🤷
Get ranked for 11-2
You can raid tomorrow for 12-1 or whatever level it would be for you.

[woeful hemlock]

I'm a f2p

[digital glacier]

Not a matter of p2w or f2p for labyrinth

[woeful hemlock]

Guess you won't know how much time and times that I spent to get passed one level. Well, that's another Event that I will stop playing. Good day😌

[west fog]

I had one in top 10 once, and they twisted the meaning in their answer as if it was a rubber doll.
That's when I realized that giving feedback is useless.

[harsh owl]

Do you remember when I mocked up "claim all" in Sketch, posted it in bug reporting and tagged Saberlot in a comment here?

Of course you do.

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

But let's keep it 1000%. Do you honestly think for one second that a company as dishonest as FunPlus is going to hire you when they can just keep sifting through this channel and others for ideas?

I stopped posting detailed feedback and ideas here for a reason. You may want to consider doing the same, unless of course you enjoy being an unpaid consultant to one of the most predatory and criminal companies in the gaming industry.

There are about 4-6 (could be more now) of you here that ensures they don't need to hire anyone. They just need to look at your latest comments day in, day out as idea springboards and go from there.

[solemn kraken]

why are you still here if you feel that way?

[harsh owl]

I haven't been in this sub since May of this year. I posted here for the first time in 6 months last week.

If you read my comment again, it should have been clear that I can be here if I want to return in a greater capacity, but I won't be saying anything or mocking up ideas in any of my design tools and then posting it here.

[solemn kraken]

never said you can't be here, just wondered why you even bothered if you feel so strongly about the company

[sullen osprey]

Yeah, like just go find another hobby if you are frustrated

Or launch your own game

[harsh owl]

There are good people here. Very good people. I have never conflated them with FunPlus.

There are details here about the game that can be learned from other players. Game play advice is different than game development/improvement advice.

[harsh owl]

I guess you missed the part where I said I wasn't here for 6 months? If I had been, yet still complaining, then your comment would be warranted.

I know how to manage my level of frustrations in-game and so it's still rewarding for me to play.

I play with good people that I actually like. A few I might meet IRL one day.

To your last question, why haven't the multimillionaires banded together and made a serious proposal to FunPlus to buy the title? They have more money than 99% of the players in this game right?

[sullen osprey]

I wouldn't be so sure about that 😂

[sage girder]

Personally, best feature as this event for me is too time consuming for less rewards

[sullen osprey]

Did you see their "new" game that is also played on state of survival servers? Its called survival frontline

[sullen osprey]

It is a trash event 😂

[sage girder]

I didn't mind it when was 5-8 levels max, too time consuming

[sullen osprey]

Its like doing intel missions in 1 year old + states

Nobody gives a 💩 about it

Well.. One year haha, more like 3months in these current speeds 😂

[sage girder]

I still do daily for plasma

[crude stratus]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Please upvote here

[novel grove]

@vivid grove glitching for the last 4 days on steam deck even after multiple restarts all i see is ID_UNDERSCORE_ and random stuff

[sage girder]

Hey War,

I can only suggest posting a bug report IG and then using this:
https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1229859341054775326

Regardless, I have written this bug down

[novel grove]

thanks alot

[sullen osprey]

I don't, already low on stamina.. and nexus coming up again..

[tardy night]

constructive criticism are my favorite words

Love it, just like optimization for fart+

They optimize. We constructively criticize the farts here

Ideally such optimisations should have everyone's head up fart+'s backends to get a closer sniff as per devs and some in here.

But alas.

[stable cosmos]

Optimisation = ruin
Rich experience = lag
Fairer matchmaking = do nothing
Close the gap = make it wider
Fantastic prizes = chief XP

Reduce banners = drastically more banners

[jolly harness]

If the gap is getting bigger and bigger then eventually there is no gap... they are doing it the long way around

[tardy night]

What's a gap of 3k when fart+ can have a gap of 800k between accs both a million+ in

[rocky otter]

1.6m stats wow 🤣

[jolly harness]

That's not a screenshot of SOS

[knotty storm]

Not sos but f- game...

[rocky otter]

It’s just not sos yet 🤣🤣

But we are going there with amazing features

[jolly harness]

Every phone game is turning out like this

Nothing to do about it

[crystal iron]

What is this 💀

[tardy night]

You are exactly where that thing was 5 years back.

And those are the whales. Lel.

[stable cosmos]

I wouldn't say every game. Every pvp maybe.

Kinda fair, always has to be a strongest. Just wish that there was more thought on how far strongest should go in comparison to everyone else at any one time.

With f---plus its as strong as you can afford, whereas it ought to be at the tip of a specific point in gameplay, and wait till the next round to get up to the pointy end again

[vernal moss]

We can all agree to this, really. But with such successful revenue at the beginning i think the expectations could always be a board problem rather than a dev problem that leads to us.
There definitely should always be a certain gap between but it's getting out of hand lately especially with the rewards and store items being so minimal.

Have you shared your thoughts about this in #📋︱feedback-reporting lately by chance?

[charred swift]

Mk1 and red crystals still there even when maxed

[stable cosmos]

No. Cos it affects money. I try not to bother with feedback where money is involved. I fail a bit but if possible, no money feedback. Cos they never make money feedback changes

[sly marsh]

lol

[unreal lichen]

most annoying thing in sos right now

[rocky otter]

Pet intel is over. And how amazing that I couldn’t even get 1 purple inf pet 😂

[calm meteor]

Really? Not even 1?

[rocky otter]

Yes got several rider and hunter but not inf

[calm meteor]

Perhaps a bit of bad luck 🙈

I got enough for my 3 marches I think but I am still working on march 1 😂

[rocky otter]

Yes i don't want to brag but im very lucky 🤣

[rocky otter]

Hope they will bring new events or start intel again. Coz no more way to get capsules and cookies rn

I just wanna complete 1 march and second march can be half 😂

[calm meteor]

Do you want to write some feedback for it? You can write in #📋︱feedback-reporting by following the format. I can help you write if you want.

[rocky otter]

Let me answer it in Becca’s roadway.
We aren’t considered to do new pet intel and new event right now 🤣🤣

[sly marsh]

They freeking kidding

[rocky otter]

There is only 1. We can’t get it from Chineses. I’m sure they make some hack program to get it 🤣🤣

[sly marsh]

The thing is I was trying to get not the cheapest pack

[forest kiln]

Wow, there are more important events? Bunkers, perhaps, or .... traaap? 🤣

[solemn kraken]

what they consider 'more important' doesn't have to mean the same for players

[rocky otter]

Their answer for those all issues is dev team isn’t planning to change it now. There isn’t any positive answer. They just talking but 0 move. just a bunch of talk

[west fog]

If they keep ignoring things that are more important to players, they will lose more players and thus revenue.
Our state's last whale just decided to stop with the game completely for example.

[tardy night]

Isn't beyond the clouds the balloon event which is temporary? Why did talk of rewards on it matter at all. 🤔

Temp events which aren't around to stay should not be the focus of any reward changes. Might as well talk of last anniversary being dumb in rewards.

[west fog]

Guess what, it's a reoccurring phenomenon-> #📋︱feedback-discussion message

[solemn kraken]

it may be a 'temp event', but it's a repeated 'temp event'

[tardy night]

Which one is beyond the clouds? The 3x3 grid bs or salt shaker

[solemn kraken]

grid, with balloon

[cursive vessel]

It's the balloon one, with the 3x3 (or whatever grid it went up too) cloud grids. It'll probably come back, they usually do

[solemn kraken]

it already did, once so far at least

[tardy night]

Meh.jpeg

Fomo events deserve people getting crap for biting into the fomo

Actual gameplay events' rewards with relevant participation >>>> trash casino fomo

[vale yoke]

Tbh Chek is right

Just muh 'pinion

[tardy night]

The funniest thing was the gambling within the gambling

Gamble on jungle gems. To gamble further on balloon crap.

And people are coming here to complain about the rewards instead of the concept

They take us all for a ride cuz we allow it.

[west fog]

See, they can fix bugs overnight if they want

[soft gulch]

This was my feedback. But they butchered the message and gave a shizzy answer lmao

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[dry violet]

That just feels really dishonest- what might have been a decent event just feels rubbish now

[west fog]

I was going to talk about compensation if they do a mistake for what ever reason whatsoever, but that would mean sending out excusion mails daily by now, which could lessen player's feeling that they're playing a game made by professionals.

[dry violet]

Well it’s literally false advertising which is against all kind of Google play and Apple Store standards. I’m not the only person who spent money to improve power to get the rewards.

[west fog]

Had the same happening to me with banners in Bounty Blast. That's their way obviously.

[dry violet]

I also bought the Path of desert pack for the auto function which didn’t even work. The amount of money I’m spending in game and not getting what I’m paying for is pissing me off now.

[west fog]

Well, those companies also don't care about made up screenshots accompanying the app description, so I guess they also don't care about that.

[west fog]

There's only one correct way to handle it for yourself. Stop spending. They only understand money talk.

[vale yoke]

[west fog]

And instead of getting SoS: The QoL Update, we'll be getting another event optimization in form of Survival Royale: Duo.
Who asked for this?

[soft gulch]

Gene therapy is OP. 60 Troop Lethality is a lot more than you get on tempest, tempest max is 50 and that too troop-type specific.

This is gonna make whales weth.

[jolly harness]

But you have it as well

[west fog]

Just tested Feeding Frenzy with auto clear for the first time (because I suddenly had two of them for some reason).
Bottom line: don't use it! It's prefering cards from the right side stash over cards on the game board.
Another little trick for wasting player items.

[soft gulch]

Yes felt weth. As soon as I hit that 🫠

[tepid rivet]

Liannin, if you ever get your dev chat, ask them if they play survival royale duo and if they have fun

[tardy night]

How does it work on auto

[tepid rivet]

Ooooh yes, found her and the most discussed topic here on Discord!

#1312982227684032522 message

[tepid rivet]

Interesting question, I would love to get some insights on this too

[light fern]

I'm a noob with only 15 mil power what do yall suggest I do to grow stronger

Been playing this game for like 1month slow growth

[tardy night]

Press uninstall.

[light fern]

Something useful

[west fog]

Damn, you beat me.

[light fern]

Not yapping

[tardy night]

Not even joking. Being honest.

You'll thank us for it

[light fern]

Why

[tardy night]

Linger in this channel and read

[west fog]

New server rule that forbids talking even about this game inbound

[cursive vessel]

👀

[west fog]

I'm starting to get the impression someone's doing it on purpose 😂

[vale yoke]

Tbh I feel like "a pile of garbage, built up over time" everyday, Agatha. Relatable.

She was a really weird villain btw

[soft gulch]

Wait till you read Troop Drill stories.

[soft gulch]

She was Sarge's dead wife.

In the next episode, we will learn Sarge choked her to death cuz she won't let go of her white nighties.

[vale yoke]

Lmao I know she was Sarge's wife but in terms of what her whole schtick was, I mean... She's mid. It was like SoS devs said "that big lady from Resident Evil is popular and we're gonna have her too, so why not segue with Sarge's wife Agatha and resolve basically nothing?"

I think they might read their own fanfic

[weak ingot]

The game you’re playing consists of mostly bundles

You want an example:
pets require spending to upgrade, behemoth mats are not nearly plentiful enough to be close to done, most people haven’t finished aircraft, badges are locked behind 50 a month, and we have 5 different events that are possible to make 0 progress without spending

[still tapir]

In all honesty hard to say. In so many ways this game is different in growing your account in younger states. So many features get released and is on a completed different schedule

[weak ingot]

Here’s three different live events right now

Let’s not even get into the fact that

This hero

Is completely irrelevant now

You can’t build this out

[soft gulch]

They read and laugh like we do.
The interns penning these have been tasked to make everyone laugh at the cringe.

That Jeff and Nikola are that old lady in wheelchair's sons. The sweater she is weaving is for baby Nikola having with Becca.

[weak ingot]

This feature is completely rng in the sense that one person will have 400% stats and the other will get trash stats for the same costs

[weak ingot]

Do you need more reasons?

[vale yoke]

don't forget the companion behemoths

[weak ingot]

We can go on.

[vale yoke]

and the tempest

and the pets

[weak ingot]

There’s also the fact that leaderboard rewards are exclusively for whales so they’ll get SOMETHING worth doing and you’ll get nothing

Also the fact that unless you’re top 200 in your state, you’re locked out of TWO seperate events

And it’s entirely possible to be BOTH a rally lead and unable to compete in those events

[vale yoke]

[weak ingot]

And if you want to join, every 100% difference equals about 2X the amount of troops killed

Meaning that whales can one shot 10 million troops without flinching

[soft gulch]

That's how they will break whales. I like the selective lock feature.

[weak ingot]

And we’ve seen reports as high as 24 million burned in one hit

[vale yoke]

I dunno, they flinch a little, mainly when they start laughing and accidentally release a snort

[weak ingot]

WHICH mind you

Can happen in non SvS events meaning that you lose 30% of your troops too

Permanently

And it takes about 24 hours to train let’s say 5000

[vale yoke]

I was zeroed during bunker 👍

[weak ingot]

So it can take you 5+ years to get back troops from one whales temper tantrum

With it being able to happen at any time

[vale yoke]

Yup. And the response is "use a bubble"

"it's a war game"

[weak ingot]

This game is playable if you were here from the stat back in like 2021, but nowadays?

[vale yoke]

To be fair, though, can't bubble during bunker so it was a prime opportunity. I even got a video of it because it was so pretty.

[weak ingot]

You will be completely outclassed by whales and old F2P alike

Do you like keeping your main march at home so strong F2P don’t burn you?

Too bad, some of them will have 20X times your troops anyways and will burn you anyways

[vale yoke]

Make sure it's the correct march, too. Depending on what's at home, it can be countered and you still lose.

[weak ingot]

Some of this can be countered, but 15 million power player?

[soft gulch]

This mid player was at hive burning small players, one of our whales who is really calm. Ported next to him and killed his 11m troops.
With his 350k march.

Guy wasnt seen again

[weak ingot]

Drop a million dollars or uninstall and play a different game

Players who are 4 billion might still get burned in one hit

[vale yoke]

Isn't gaming so much fun?

[weak ingot]

And if you can avoid AlL that and get a rally off vs someone without getting punished for it

You have reports like this to look forward too

[soft gulch]

The biggest I have solo'd is 6m player. Its so unreal when it happens

[weak ingot]

Where your best rally bounces like flies

^^^ this isn’t even the extreme

You find a true whale and this report will look like heaven

You will be CELEBRATING this report

If you want a game recommmendation, DM any player here a genre you’re looking for and we can come back with 15 different games that will be cheaper, more fun and more accessible to you as a new player

The only reason why we are here is cuz we are OLD players and we have mitigated a lot this nonsense as best as we can with diplomacy and friends and avoidance

[west fog]

Rusty's finally got the answer for Sarge 😂

[weak ingot]

So anything to say? Any more questions?

[light fern]

Not really

[soft gulch]

Rusty was hitting on Becca so hard, she ran away to find her father and then disappeared.

True story, watch the prologue.

[west fog]

I've brought up the reference to Fight Club a couple of times already. If you've decided to leave the cage, you're perceived as being a traitor when returning.
The state of a community says a lot about the company that's providing it.

[tardy night]

Hey. Still more to go.

The excellent customer service. The extraordinary QoL updates. The feedback that's listened to. The non toxic environments that they give a lot of attention to treating permanently at a moment's notice.

No security flaws , plays smooth like butter. Your credit card won't end up being used in hawala transactions, you don't get doxxed here either. They are careful about that.

They have not silenced streamers or bought reviewers via paid channels to ensure fair reviews always go out. And development & updation of actual gameplay always aligns to the stats you can purchase.

Did we talk about that excellent AI suport that's so responsive and the extremely helpful personal sounding board assigned at 50k$?

And they treat your money & time with the utmost respect. Items will be delivered as promised, you won't find anything arbitrarily missing from inventory, ever. Or come around to find what you paid for or spent hours getting was removed.

That's for other cringe titles. This game is so good.

[west fog]

Ok, got a link to that company's titles? You got me hooked. DM of course.

[tepid rivet]

And the most important part: after 5 years still no bacon emoji in chat

[west fog]

They've already complained about not being able to one hit a building in RR anymore. They - different from us - surely will be heared and treated accordingly.

[pallid willow]

They should make royale last 5 minutes only

[west fog]

Lies.

[coarse blaze]

Yeah.. that ship is sealed

*insert Titanic movie ship Sailng

[west fog]

If I click on go, it selects one random intel. Looks like even the radar didn't expect pet intel to disappear suddenly.

[coarse blaze]

Think it ended when u rescue lv 300

*insert hot spartan boys gif

[west fog]

Then they maybe didn't expect anyone reaching that level so soon, so they thought they still had enough time to fix the functionality.
I mean, who in their right mind would play this game daily? Don't look at me now.

[coarse blaze]

I am... playing... daily...

[vale yoke]

It's like every other Intel they've introduced, where it has a max level cap. Once upon a time, they were even convinced to expand levels, but that was a different time. We were different people then.

Sorry, Freebird is on and making me sentimental for the old days

[coarse blaze]

Yeah.. I'm different... I'm red dot junkie now

[vale yoke]

Red dots?! Where?!

They're like pokemon.

Oh, sorry, pocket monsters, because that's IP branded and FP can't afford that pokemon money

[coarse blaze]

"Catch them all"

[vale yoke]

Pocket monster money.

[west fog]

They must have Forgotten™ then to remove that entry automatically as soon as lvl max is reached.

[vale yoke]

I wheezed

Oh I wheezed

"Forgotten™"
Priceless

For everything else, there's mastercard

[coarse blaze]

U misspelled "wizard "

[coarse blaze]

Or Visa .rd

[vale yoke]

Tbh they even offer payment deals for bundles with Klarna in some cases because apparently not only should we pay money without thinking, we should finance with interest.

Speaking of self-loathing, lemme log in to do my SvS stuff

Ha.

[coarse blaze]

Hope u r not 669

[vale yoke]

Nah, 180

[coarse blaze]

Then... push. Girl.. spent those plasma.. pearls..this new hero potions..

[west fog]

It's even turning and jumping now. I'm playing without sound, but I won't exclude the possibility that it's even speaking 😂

It's my own fault I guess...

Listen you listeners:
If you wonder why virtually nobody dares anymore to talk about something they're perceiving as positive in this game, it's because you'll ruin it.

You are creating this atmosphere, you are responsible for this. Belive it or not.

[cloud ridge]

I am innocent

blame FP!

[west fog]

I did 😂 That you was for their listeners, people who look like a normal member player, but got a mod role.

[cloud ridge]

Wish i had CM role so least people can stop saying CM's dont talk to people

[west fog]

It should actually have been renamed to WM by now.

[vale yoke]

I wish I had a CM role so we could actually have a CM who talks to people.

I'm half the price of a regular CM and none of the filler.

(no shade to my girl Nanami, but you're one person)

[stable cosmos]

1 hour a week of responding to users would create so much good will. 1 sodding hour.

[vale yoke]

By that, I presume you to not mean DMs, but responses here on server?

[stable cosmos]

Yes. DMs are not visible to all, you'd repeat information a lot and its not necessarily provided to everyone. In a way that makes more work for yourself that could be basic conversations

And of course if everyone sees you joining in you become a member of the community and it fosters good will and acceptance of what you can and cannot do

That said because you have done none of this for years, you're going to weather a lot of anger for a decent period. But thats why you get paid...

[cloud ridge]

Get paid to ignore the community!

[stable cosmos]

It'd be nice to know what the CMs can actually access for information. Cos even when we do get stuff, its often wrong, or cannot even be found prior to it happening

[west fog]

Still wouldn't change a thing. Devs can't afford a license for Improvement™ with the budget they have, so they will always reside to optimization.org

[stable cosmos]

It would help out the user base in knowing whats happening. Might not flow in the direction of the devs but we could maybe find out why a stupid decision had been made. And there are lots of those to choose from

[west fog]

I think you know the answer to why by now. You know what's driving management, so you can derive from there.

[digital glacier]

You have all stabilizers maxed for mk1?

[charred swift]

No, red crystals are maxed but I meant that all mk1 skills are maxed so no need for cut-price bio batteries

[digital glacier]

But you fail to understand. Whales can effectively spend more to get multiple at price increase.
Not only that, but the added damage of them vs the added damage of hers
The whales will have a higher increase due to the way the calculations are done.
So, this increases the gap alone.

[digital glacier]

Stabilizers cost bio batteries. So, there's that.

[digital glacier]

Funplus should delete characters from the game
IF it meets ALL the below conditions

1. No purchases made
2. Less than 1,000,000 battle power
3. Last login was 365 days or more

[soft gulch]

Tusker is back at Level 40 in Jungle

issued in public interest

[vernal moss]

These may be cycled through it seems. The more advanced statues would be here. But If you have any suggestions on what would be more fitting instead of a recycled item please do share them in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[vernal moss]

It would help with server space, would likely help lag too. As long as we specify that it’s all because we know what might happen otherwise
Have you put this in #📋︱feedback-reporting by chance yet?

[solemn kraken]

only #3 is a valid reason, and that's only barely

[soft gulch]

Why they don't give points for legendary frags in SVS but give in sotf.

Its bleddy ridiculous.

[soft gulch]

No it's a great statue, skill DMG reduction.
I just didn't like lava island coming back on 45th, last run had Band team statue.

[vernal moss]

Since fragments are hard to use now for points as it doesn’t allow us to use general frags on newer heroes, it’s mostly resonated frags or old hero fragments it may be a source that’s dying out. But since SoTF has more opponents it may be in there to give the extra edge on other players.

[warped ruin]

thanks! so I don't need to buy jungle chisel now 😉

[charred swift]

I might be wrong but I don’t think that the effortless progress on Mk1 includes a reduction for the stabiliser bio batteries.

[digital glacier]

You realize there's a ton of add popup in other games to get rewarded for downloading sos and reaching a certain level or power in a certain time frame right! You realize a lot of those accounts won't ever be played again?

Do you realize all those accounts are effecting many things in the game which is effecting the average player. I don't mean average player in terms of free to play vs spender, I mean it in the terms of logging in daily, doing stuff, possibly state transfer, potentially 61 days offline cause they can't afford the ticket cost, matchups etc etc.

Guy Spends $1,000,000
Gets deployed and cannot access game.
🤣 And you think being offline is only a barely requirement.

There's at least 83 alliances in my state that are joinable if 1 player left the alliance. Because they're full.
99.99% chance, 83 alliance with an individual bp of less than 200m, have not logged in for probably 4 years.
That's 83 alliance names
83 alliance tags
4150 potential player names
That could be freed up.
1m bp is obtainable in like 1 hour
So, it's really nothing if they've not logged into the game for more than 1 year and spend $0

Even if they don't delete them. He'll, so what I've said for years.
Create state 0 and move all accounts 61+ days inactive to it.

[tardy night]

More accounts = more fake stats sold to investors.

It's favorable for them to show more accs. In their oldest game, the sweeping of accounts happened like thrice over 7 years.

Idk why this hun Chou dude glazing fart+. Sounds experienced enough to know better 👀

Their advertisement for an anniversary put out a statement of a few million active users. When kingdoms barely had 200 people around and there were less than 400 kds.

It probably gets pushed way worse to investors.

[vale yoke]

It's all data. Even if people don't retain their accounts, and just delete the game after reaching their app milestones, that game and user data now exists. Considering how the company handles user data...
Well, the investors don't really care, do they? They still see green any way you cut it.

[tardy night]

When we had that 51 app ban being enforced, several folks went hunting and found that apps left plenty of stuff post uninstallation that continued to get and report data.

Some Investors prolly couldn't give a damn if their whole fam got sold over tbf.

[vale yoke]

[solemn kraken]

nope, don't play many other games, and the few ads ah have seen for SoS look nothing like the game

[digital glacier]

Nvm.

[solemn kraken]

and you never said 'spend $1,000,000', you said 'have a 1,000,000 battle power'

as you said, a guy plays and then gets deployed, who are you to say that they will never come back to the game?

maybe make it so no one in the military can play it to avoid the case of them getting deployed and stop playing?

what about banning police? they might get killed in the line of duty

[vale yoke]

He also said "meets ALL conditions" so it isn't just the proposition of "under 1mil BP" but also over 365 days of no log in and no purchases.
Man that strawman was dryyy

And it wasn't about bans at all lol but about deleting old accounts which meet those conditions.

[solemn kraken]

yeah, but if you ban them, then there won't be a need to delete inactive accounts

[vale yoke]

So spy alts from SvS long past, which generally aren't paid into, have under 1mil BP, and haven't been logged into in a dogs age? They don't need to be hanging out

[solemn kraken]

ah've been playing for a couple years now, not made a single purchase and have less than 1m BP

[vale yoke]

Deleting inactive accounts is server maintenance, essentially.

Banning players is not

[solemn kraken]

banning is a preventive measure

[vale yoke]

I'm curious to hear your reasoning for banning as a preventative measure, and under what conditions? This will turn into something out of Minority Report, I feel like.

If purging inactive accounts under the conditions Mufasa outlined is, as I see it, server maintenance, how does banning, as you see it, act as a preventative measure?

[solemn kraken]

Zack Tilly, it was a stupid counter to a stupid request

[vale yoke]

So you were trolling?

[solemn kraken]

ah've seen that being touted far too many times, usually because they have lag, or they want a certain name and they hope a purge will fix things

as much trolling as they were, but ah guess they are valid because they had bullet-points

[vale yoke]

We have a ton of games all on the same servers, none of which are appropriately maintained, so inactive purges serve an actual purpose. Did you think we weren't running on the same servers as regional versions and multiple other FP titles, for some reason?

[rocky otter]

It reduce bio batteries for stabilizer as well

[lavish heron]

I thought Donatello had 5 skills??

[last hazel]

If you have DNA skill on him then he has 5

[lavish heron]

Oh alright. Makes sense. Thanks 🙏.

[tardy night]

You sound like your trolling is valid for some reason.

Hop over multiple fart+ servers. Watch them all complain at the exact same instance regarding downtime. Then come back in here to yap more

We could show it isn't a client side issue. Only been a thing for 8 years.

[bronze star]

I just got VIP13 and the 2 new benefits are “VIP Draw” and “Quick use combat bonus items”. What are these? 😅

I have looked all over. Asked in alliance and state chat and no one knows

Any info is appreciated 🙂

[storm solstice]

"Still under development" for VIP Draw

[vale yoke]

Lol sounds about right for them

[storm solstice]

And the other you find via HQ - Buffs and lowest part

Would not recommend to use it.

[viscid ore]

Is a joke???

Why are there no unicorns or penguins???

Do you realize that excluding unicorns and penguins is marginalization??

No, I'm not in it....
No, I'm not in it....
I want unicorns and/or penguins!!
They too have the right to have their moment of glory!!

Ok now I'm going away before I'm banned for life!!

😬

[vale yoke]

It didn't escape my notice there is no goat anywhere either.

[tardy night]

It's a new companion I guess?

[bronze star]

Thank you! ☺️

[last hazel]

I can't complain, Phoenix is already in game

[vale yoke]

sniffle
I'm not jealous

[last hazel]

But been Phoenix for 4 years,de s should give me a free Phoenix sentinels for keeping my Name

[wide wraith]

no one plays survival royale anymore, the league type event failed completely, now they add duos which will fail just as badly, why dont they just cut their losses and admit defeat, removing the event totally

[storm solstice]

Seems like my name is "no one" as I'm playing it quite often.
To get the golden Banana stuff free

[woven spire]

Would say mascotte for dd maybe. Otherwise new behemoth

New behemoth kills all quit spenders

And makes joiners maybe relevant again

By now even a f2p got a max ape joiner

And dino should have maxed all important skills at least

[wide wraith]

a lot just use the auto mode, and dont have time to play it, but of course a guess a content creator needs to support their dying money tree

[storm solstice]

Mate, you are such a bitter person.
How do I support their money tree by playing an event everyone can participate free?

[west fog]

I still play it, because it's still easy to make first for me and so I've got the luxury to gather TA stuff regularly.

[wide wraith]

actually play or use auto?

[cursive vessel]

Wish I had a maxed monkey or even a decent dino for that matter 😂

[west fog]

I don't reach first place and only get about 1/3 of crystals with auto, so actually play

[wide wraith]

my baby alt in 998 not even a P1 got to 3rd on auto, it bores a lot of people, as for my main, since they added packs to it, i havent bothered actually playing it

as i didnt bother signing up for the auction scam, tell me what is the point of the event for me

[west fog]

That's fine. But don't expect that your attitude has to be the same for all.
So just don't exaggerate with terms like "no one".

[vale yoke]

I still play it, sometimes not on auto because I have the time available.

MOOSE

[tame lintel]

Wtf is this ......

[vale yoke]

Got too excited

[tame lintel]

Not even drugs....can get a person this far off the ledge

[wide wraith]

there should be an option K none of the above in a Zombie game

[vale yoke]

You know... What if... They had a liopleurodon... Or a goat

[west fog]

It's the outcome of their biodiversity survey before.

[vale yoke]

Tbh, I kinda wanna make a "Today I'm feeling-" thing. Today, I'm feeling like a... Mutated mole cricket.

[tame lintel]

My option k. Would be. "It's a game"

[vale yoke]

I've also always wanted to make a Feedback Bingo

For every update

[wide wraith]

it maybe a only a game but why not fix it before even concidering adding any other non-zombie related money-pits

[west fog]

Because it doesn't make money😂

[wide wraith]

it would make money in the long run as things like this will just cause more to leave, including the ultra whales

[solemn kraken]

don't play any other funplus game, use to play a plusfun game, but that's not the same thing

[solemn kraken]

they... do know what a Plesiosaur is, right? hint 'Nessie'

[still tapir]

New behemoth

[distant gull]

Pls
No
New
Behemoth

[solemn kraken]

just looked up what a 'mole cricket' is... someone is screwing with the world right? they joined two critters together, like they did back in the day sewing a monkey torso onto a fish body to make a 'mermaid'

[grand surge]

Thanks to all downvoters 😘

[distant gull]

The gems lvl 10 reward is already matched with greek theme, theres nothing to change it

[grand surge]

All the SoS game is not about changes

[west fog]

Investors have shown to be mostly interested in short-term return. Some already voiced their impression that this horse is dying. So I'd say they push it as far as possible before it collapses.

[north moss]

Hi! there were not any downvoters so farr.
The bot didn't work so i added the reactions manually

[grand surge]

Worth a shot tho
But still thanks

[grand surge]

Nah, statue feedback lol

[distant gull]

😅 next gems will have tyler statue dont worry

[grand surge]

Also as I've said in feedback permits were synced with actual statues🤷‍♀️
Greek not greek

[distant gull]

Normal statue is greek theme

[grand surge]

Idc about these statues
I'm about hero ones

Normal statues they can give anything they want

[west fog]

You've got to think a bit beyond your personal horizon. Younger states don't have the problem of having everything maxed yet.

[distant gull]

Yes, hero statue Tyler will available in next gems (Lucky slot or smth)

[grand surge]

I don't have it maxed yet too

Js

[north moss]

which one do you mean? I can confirm that it is a greek theme. Based on mythology actually. Not in hero statues yet though.But it would be cool having one there as well where we will able to gather the most tickets from events like jungle gems

[grand surge]

But it's better to have at least at lvl 7 and after max anything you want

[north moss]

f2p friendly

[grand surge]

Libra statue

I wanted before Virgo statue but they've made it almost impossible to have even on lvl 7
But Libra we have a lot

Not much problems with Scorpio

Seems like they just don't like some statues or signs 😂

[north moss]

I thought the same thing for the leo statue. I spent to max it and then we had more options to max the hero statue

[grand surge]

Kinda discrimination 😂
This is what feedback was about
Not to hurt anyone's feelings but to give us a good start with actual things

And after we can as always upgrade it from the shops

But statues like Sagittarius, Virgo or before that like Cancer, Leo we didn't have much opportunities to have as f2p

A good start is better as for me then after look for 20+ chests to max out them

But downvoters are ok haha

[worldly sable]

Combine all chests, they are a nuisance to my bag and eyeballs

[vale yoke]

Especially when they all share same or near similar design.

[worldly sable]

I know, they didn't even make them cute or different at all

[vale yoke]

I had three different types of statue chest yesterday, all looking the same. Like wth

[worldly sable]

I just hoard for when they surprise us a new spectacle using all old statues but upgraded to level 30

[vale yoke]

Lol

[worldly sable]

It just seems like it might be a thing 🥲

[vale yoke]

I'm here like "I just do my best, Lisa. I do my best" lol

[west fog]

That's what you get with the same keywords from an ai generator

I'm joking of course. Or am I?

[west fog]

Could it actually be that they've got just different heads for different regions and mess that up sometimes?

[tepid rivet]

You don't like different crates for almost same stuff?

[solemn kraken]

nah, left is OGMaddie, right is AIMaddie

[west fog]

It's the exact same body.

[wide wraith]

same state yet again in Apex Arena, what is the point of it

[jolly harness]

Apex arena doesn't make sense.
One in my state beats me every time.
We tried a camp battle with exactly the same set up and troops and he doesn't even come close to beating me

[stable cosmos]

Apex arena has never made sense. The prizes suck. I don't know why anyone actually plays it at all

[vernal moss]

It's alright for a minor extra free bonus, even if most of it is useless to us. But i'd love to have better rewards for it personally. Do you have any suggestions on what to place there instead?

[vale yoke]

I'd love an event I wasn't locked out of, personally

[vernal moss]

There's a special power calculation in apex which is different to regular. It's strange why they did that but here we are 🙈

[vernal moss]

Unfortunately it's another marketing strategy, but you already know this.

[tardy night]

It's almost like giving a clueless person the wrong idea about what works and what doesn't, leads to them splurging out on whatever the company wishes to push at any given moment.

But this company doesn't do that. All our stats and skills work exactly as described....right?

[vale yoke]

They do??

I mean they do! Well, they do... Something.

Idk if "work" is what they're doing

But it's something

Tbh I gave up trying to understand much of this game because it's less "if I do this then this happens" and more "what's this button do? Let's find out!"

[tardy night]

Couldn't tell. My 2% troop attack bonus must have helped kill 1k more than the normal. Lemme go spend another 50 bucks on it to confirm

[vale yoke]

Only 50? Whale.

[tardy night]

INR 50 is like 50¢

[vale yoke]

They get my data, that's good enough

[stable cosmos]

If an event serves no purpose for everyone it is either a candidate to be a bundle, or it should not exist.

Events are for everyone. If they are not for everyone they don't get to be a thing. Especially not a thing that eats screenspace

[vernal moss]

Definitely agree with you, it's truly a shame to see such practices being made. The idea of these are for obvious reasons we unfortunately know. But for the sake of it would you consider making a #📋︱feedback-reporting about this issue, if it doesn't involve you to remove it completely from your screen space / involve everyone in the event

[jolly harness]

I don't play it. I start usually at the rank I ended the time before and everyone has the same rank for weeks now

[stable anvil]

And just like that the new store is not open for reset

[slate fossil]

yes, unfortunately it looks like another 7 day countdown has been put into place

[stable anvil]

Wow what a let down and many wanted it now

[slate fossil]

I was looking forward to it , as well.

[stable anvil]

Not even a written mail saying, hey we will push back the new store a following week. Just poof nada

[slate fossil]

I hate to say- but that's how it appears-
Tbh, I hadn't paid attention to the timer/counter before noticing it today, after reset.

#⭐︱game_information message
This explains it more comprehensible

[stable anvil]

Ahhh so 5 more days for us

That way this koth will atleast give more coins

[wide cobalt]

At the end my t rex is alive and i have 5k hunter left but fail ,why?

[slate fossil]

have you looked into the details further- there are so many variables- it appears that the opponent bonus stats were higher.

[soft gulch]

is this showdown?
if not can you share this part:

[wide cobalt]

apex arena

[soft gulch]

I think its whacked out

[tardy night]

Apex favours defenders and think there's a round limit after which defence auto wins

[stable cosmos]

I have vague memories of it being round 29?

[wide cobalt]

After a small upgrade on my hero skills

same final round (33) but i still have a few riders

I think you need a minimum of troops at the end, at least to win an attack

[tardy night]

Prolly increased after complaints or something.

[zealous scroll]

What happen to bundles column?

[slate fossil]

have you try to restart game? If that doesn't work- lemme know there are other things to try. But, I feel that is a good start.

[tardy night]

Best thing ever?

[slate fossil]

lol....I can't argue with that logic, for sure!

[jolly harness]

Sign to stop spending

[raw light]

[storm solstice]

How most people are not motivated at all to try to meet those point threshold anymore...
Maybe a good thing that should be thought about. Getting downgraded by 2-3-4 rewards stages or burn double amount of money to meet those crazy point thresholds

[stable cosmos]

F2p you get very few bullets, the pluton is regularly killed by someone else even if you're on at the exact right moment and everything in the shop is too expensive AND they recycle the coins so you can't even save up.

Nothing in there to foster pushing when the end result is tiny. For most f2p in any one event you'd get maybe 150 pearls and nothing else.

[rapid marlin]

Or longer. My state in the range to get today, yet its not there. Lets see if they throw Update during nexus again 🫠

[rapid marlin]

With luck in jungle definitely able to make more, i got 3 statue crates and ard 2500 pearls this time

[stable cosmos]

Jungle likes to give me money and whichever line explosion is the most useless. Its being used to prop up otherwise s--- events and tbh doesn't count for how bad those events are otherwise

[icy sage]

🙄

game is stuck in a loop

[zinc hazel]

Has anyone else noticed a decreased spawn rate of lvl. 6 infected fiends lately? Normally I logged in and was able to find at least 5+ lvl. 6 fiends through the search, and now I'm lucky to find even 1 lvl. 6 fiend

If I had to pinpoint the timeframe of when this started happening, I would say it started around the time they introduced the infected fiend feature in Intel

[rapid marlin]

For us started with last merge, hard to find any

[rapid marlin]

Its heavily random and luck based. Past two times i reached both times lvl 35 without spending. This time am at lvl 11, getting barely anything. If used smart i usually get to lvl 20, for f2p thats actually not bad.

When I remember first year in game, f2p really got barely anything. Compared to past i won't complain at all, it improved alot

[stable cosmos]

My point isn't that jungle is bad. Its that it doesn't make bounty blast good. Bounty blast is bad regardless if it needs another event to prop it up and bb being any sort of ok is reliant on good RNG in the other event.

[tame oxide]

collect what?????

clicked on it got nothing 🤬🤬🤬

[wide wraith]

they forgot to add the badges

[hollow needle]

i think i got 10k skin tickets and they aren't in my backpack at least it looked like skin tickets

[normal peak]

Invisible rewards that’s what you collect

[cursive vessel]

They're so incompetent, it's not even funny 🙄

[wide wraith]

didnt even get that just a collect button

[normal peak]

10k air particles or just a collect..either way waste of time

[tame oxide]

Found them still no icon 🤣

[wide wraith]

got a popup with rewards on it but they just disappeared

[normal peak]

I guess game wants me to upgrade invisible items now?

[knotty storm]

Update game...

[normal peak]

There is no update

[knotty storm]

Cause they introduce stuff before the update 🙈🙈🙈🙈

[normal peak]

Morons

[hidden stream]

We will receive the update soon and all items will display correctly #📌︱game_updates message

[wide wraith]

and as per usual late updates not taking into account those who do stuff at reset

[raw light]

[wide wraith]

its almost as bad as having a non-existent CM who does nothing for the community

[worn pewter]

Ah yes, the update consisting of things people did not ask for. 3 new content, 10 “improvements” (for example survival royale duo, is it auto capable? If not, delete…) and only 2 fixes… a lot more to fix on this than that.

[pallid willow]

Ahahaha we now have legos in game? XD

Or mini mine..ft? XD

[wide wraith]

so is this supposed update different to the mini update we just got that did nothing

[knotty storm]

This mini updates load new assets and stuff, but they'll be used only after the big update... And we wonder why there are so many bugs😒😒😒😒😒

[wide wraith]

we could ask the CM, oh wait thats just a BOT who does nothing

the MODS should stop posting updates etc and make her actually do something

[hidden stream]

I'm not sure about everything, but most of the improvements are related to what the players asked for (and of course, not everything that the players would like here, you can find out more in the Developer Feedback and Becca's Roadmap), as for the new Survival Royale mode, you can read here: #⭐︱game_information message , but as far as I know, there is no automatic mode (will check). If you have any comments, you can always post a feedback #📋︱feedback-reporting

[wide wraith]

cant say what we think of the new SR duo mode as we have to keep it family friendly

[mental slate]

Devs, please stop forcing the new graphics on to me. I hate it, and I have spent 4 years on the old graphics system. I hate the way backpack looks, and I hate the way the stores look now that I've updated, since the new graphics were forced on to me 😒😒

[hidden stream]

I don't actually play even the standard mode, but it's interesting to look at the new mode (for me) 😅

[wide wraith]

#⭐︱game_information message were is the followup to this post from @feral sinew still nothing recieved

does @feral sinew still work for FP or was she fired for not doing her job

[digital glacier]

Now I see why this update was in total over 400 MB.
90% 💩
9% filler 🥙
1% good stuff🍦

[worn pewter]

it looks like a waste of time, there is not enough time in the day to play all the events there are for this dumpster fire as it is but we are adding new content.... okay.... The point of the comment was apparently lost on you so I will restate the point... There are so many things that simply need to be fixed that are being consistently overlooked and I highly doubt that half of these improvements were asked for but all of the fixes that are not being done have been. You do not get paid to defend their actions so why do it?

[digital glacier]

CALL MY MOMMY

I NEED HELP

5 YEARS OF KNITTING WHAT I WAS DOING.... AND NOW THIS... IM LOST

[trail fractal]

seems the game removed all genes off my heros ??? why ??

[hollow pebble]

Oh f no, Please don’t tell me that this update screws up old graphics mode

[digital glacier]

@hollow pebble

[hollow pebble]

Goddammit

😒

[stable cosmos]

They've been gradually killing old gfx for ages. I'd prefer they did kill it than doing the halfway stuff. Either keep it and fully support it or don't. No middle ground

[hollow pebble]

I stay on old graphics mode for a reason, readability is so much better, devs are really idiots

[stable cosmos]

That said, i look forward to my explorer challenge breaking on the regular...

Oh and my rally screen being even more laggy

[digital glacier]

All old gfx exist on server.
Is not been deleted
It's only the files telling you phone what gfx images to load

Also.
New gfx is new.
Is more bugged
It's less efficient
Etc etc.

Sometimes the original is always the best.

If new gfx was so amazing, why are so many still on old gfx 🤷🤣

[hollow pebble]

It’s been already clear devs don’t listen to feedback

[stable cosmos]

In my case i hate CONGRATS showing up every 5 seconds

[hollow pebble]

And if they do we get Z instead of A

[digital glacier]

Devs need an electric eel to slither their way up their buthole

And after 6 days of torture, go out their pp hole

[hollow pebble]

They should be in indefinitely

[digital glacier]

||god said on the 7th day we rest||
🤣 They get a day of rest, but they be in so much pain it won't be restful.
I never said it wouldn't repeat again on Monday 🤣

[tidal apex]

They listen :p One of the most repeated feedbacks is "less events/stuff to do because we need to have time to go to work to earn money for SoS bundles". What is the result? New Apex arena and other stuff that should be done daily :p

At least it have crap rewards so ignoring it's existence is not hurting my game progress

[digital glacier]

Then you gonna love this 😝

[hollow pebble]

I can’t even do arena crap(apex and immortal) not enough money for that😂

[hollow pebble]

I do too😂😂😂

[distant gull]

XD, new UI is terrible
And all old UI thing forced to new graphics

[digital glacier]

It sucks worse than a 90 year old hook her with an overbite and dimentia who charges by the second on a Sunday morning and your wife catches you

[digital glacier]

Been waiting 5 years for a simple "use all" button for alliance donations.

They can't even do a simple "use all" button for the free furnace 🤣

And they added it here before alliance donations **WTF!!! **

[warped ruin]

custom plasma crate, and poly plasma removed?

560 and 8400

It would be nice to know how many coins we get at events. 😄

[digital glacier]

Those come from svs.
I only compared so far the items in rr shop to items in new shop from info I see from test state.

[lavish heron]

What sort of reviews are these?? Sos reviews looks so fake

😂

[hollow pebble]

That’s where are the money goes, oh and fake marketing

[rocky otter]

This plasma chest is 2 svs coins, and if converts it makes 400 new coins. But why are you increasing it %40 😡😡

[solemn kraken]

you mean the ads that show gameplay that doesn't exist?

[tardy night]

Reviews are purchasable at 5-10¢ a piece or so

Look at the number of reviews. Then calculate that out of 100, maybe 10 people ever leave a review.

That would mean 10k+ players in every state ever made in sos.

They are fake reviews.

[digital glacier]

40% price increase it's same now as 42 svs tokens instead of 30.
28 instead of 20
Math is hard. 🤣

This did make the speedups a lot cheaper by comparison because the count of tokens per speedup was low
So it actually helps in that aspect
But speedups now for svs token, are just now accurately reflected in a more correct pricing.

Just like koh bet store.

If you look at all rr and koh bet items, 75% of them have a 2.5 times difference.
Except speedups. They're overpriced in koh bet.
Now, with the combined store, because it's 5 & 2 for conversion, it makes all items in koh bet and rr store have a 2.5 times differential. , SO, IT IS actually 100% correct for comparison to rr token. And we're better off on that at least 🤣

[west fog]

It's called voxels, as being three dimensional pixels. It helps to cut the cost as even management's kids can make 3d models with them easily.

[tardy night]

Windmill windmill for the land

Turn forever hand in hand

[olive mauve]

Is that new shop going to be coming out the same way it looks on the test servers?

[tardy night]

No.

[olive mauve]

Would hope not

[tardy night]

Test states have it. Go look

[olive mauve]

I've seen the test state chart

[tardy night]

So they applied lube before going in. Ptr was dry

Optimisations to the fore

New strategy perhaps. Make it seem 10x worse. So people accept the 2x worse

[olive mauve]

It's not that it's worse really

[tardy night]

^

It is objectively worse.

Unless you're whale and have the batteries already

[olive mauve]

I'm taking about the ones that come from Crown Conquest fragments

Which is the only currency I don't have since mine glitched away once (except at the time I didn't realize it was a glitch, apparently) and I've been spending them since

I couldn't care less about the silver coins, I'll have over 4M of those

The only question I have is were the gold coin costs accurate

[tardy night]

👀

We couldn't care less about helping you if that's how you feel about how the conversion affects everyone else.

Good day

Some mod will be along to help shortly.

Cuz they're forced to

[olive mauve]

The gold coins are what matter, because that's what gives the things of high value

I know a bunch of people who are on the verge of quitting over it

And they don't care about the silver side either, so...

...And the #4 in my state didn't even wait for an answer and just already quit about 15 minutes ago. The #6 already did a few days ago, though I know he's also in a new state messing around so I don't know what's up with him.

The problem with that shop as is is anyone without a whole ton of CC coins stocked up is immediately wrecked with essentially no way to make up for it except vast quantities of money most people don't have.

[tardy night]

This is how my teammate feels. People I've actually cared about more than a figs worth

So. Take that 💩 somewhere else.

[olive mauve]

It's like you only come here to pretend to be a mod and troll this channel instead of answering basic questions

[cursive vessel]

To be fair, all currency is important. Just cause it isn't important to you doesn't mean it's not important to other people

[tardy night]

Ah yes. Pretend to be a mod

[olive mauve]

One currency is making several people around me potentially quit the game. One isn't.

Sorry for not caring about the one that isn't an imminent threat to me

[tardy night]

Those f2p gonna kill ya. Damn

They might hurt 5 of your troops. Sob sob

You will cry to the devs to get them all back?

[cursive vessel]

I don't even have anything to say that. Sorry I don't care if your whales quit?? 🤷‍♀️

[digital glacier]

Who buys svs stuff, give price increase. Like massively worthless item overvalued price 🤣

[olive mauve]

2B-4B bp aren't whales

The actual whales don't care about that shop at all

They've already maxed almost everything in it anyway

[digital glacier]

500b bp is 497b troop bp 🤣

Or more 🤣

[cursive vessel]

I'm in that bracket and I'm not gonna throw my dummy out over a store they've screwed up. They screw up loads of things 😂

[olive mauve]

The costs there are much much less broken and understandable

[wide wraith]

shock the Devs messed things up, at 2B+ a player should be used to that, suck it up and move on

[olive mauve]

1,400 instead of 100 is really all that I needed to know

[digital glacier]

I liked the ptr store and prices better 🙈

[olive mauve]

Not when certain people were set to get 100s of behemoth ultras and some weren't

[tardy night]

Oh nooo.

[cursive vessel]

😂

[olive mauve]

I showed them that chart and SOS probably just saved itself a dozen players from this state alone... But you're all rather pathetic in your attempt at trolling a simple request for information.

Done here, byebye

[vale yoke]

[tardy night]

Trolling is bad if it's successful. New things we learn every day

Go cry to the gm

[wide wraith]

so it happens, thats what bubbles are for, or some clever work behind the scenes

[tardy night]

Meanwhile ill wrestle with keeping my team still interested in the wreckage of a sinking ship

[vale yoke]

That. That right there.

[tardy night]

💪

[vale yoke]

Good god.

[cloud ridge]

Sinking ship sounds more interesting 👀

[vale yoke]

Tbh I kinda feel like that orchestra in titanic who is playing while the ship sinks...

[tardy night]

Wonderful the morons we see everyday who think they're the center of the universe

[spark kindle]

How back should I scroll to spot the moron in question?

[tardy night]

Somewhere around here

[vale yoke]

Thing is, I don't even care if people only think about themselves in terms of development decisions and how they're affected, as long as they can also concede the point that others may feel differently and the reasoning behind it.

[spark kindle]

Reason and perhaps some emphaty, I feel like it's a bit of asking too much 😂

[vale yoke]

Right?

[spark kindle]

I gave up on critical thinking anyway

Oh well

[vale yoke]

Whuts criti-cull thing-king?

That hurt to type. I'm sorry.

[spark kindle]

😂😂 Don't be, you gave me a chuckle

[wide wraith]

with this new shop, some will be worse off but some will be better off, the way i look at it is there seem to be some things that i never had the chance of getting that i will be able too now

[vale yoke]

Lol I channeled my youngest when he was very little and we had a talk bout using our thinking skills

[digital glacier]

I can't believe you talk out me like that 😭😭😭 I just got here 😭🤣😭🤣

[spark kindle]

I'm sure your kiddo has better critical thinking skills than most adults around here

[digital glacier]

🤪

[vale yoke]

I'm not gonna say a word. But yes.

Self included

[digital glacier]

Myself not included

[vale yoke]

Very included

Lol

[spark kindle]

There will always be someone

[digital glacier]

I gud gud at crutial thinkeded

[vale yoke]

You can't expect everyone to see things similarly, and sometimes you gotta meet them where they're at - unfortunately.

You made me choke on smoke. Not noice.

[spark kindle]

I'm taking a screenshot

[digital glacier]

If you choke on smoke in not sure how you handle other things

Like eating. 🤪 ||get your mind out of the gutter||

[vale yoke]

I was gonna say. Sir.

[digital glacier]

I don't have to meet stupid people halfway.
I don't have to meet them at all.
🤷

[vale yoke]

At the risk of tarnishing my already dubious public image here, I'm not going to say a single word.

I'm thinking several, after almost five years here.

[tardy night]

F2p agree to whales being able to kill them. By showing up at every damn dumb event.

Whales....

If f2p didn't agree, or any other level of player, they could just sit out. Nothing would be lost.

New update would get 100x the return of anything participation in any event could bring

Infuriating how many don't understand this.

[digital glacier]

They should have a tournament
$0 spent since day 1
$0.01 - $99.99 spent in the last 6 months
$100 - $499.99 spent in last 6 months
$500 - $999.99 spent in the last 6 months
$1000 - $4999.99 spent in the last 6 months
$5000 + spent in the last 6 months

Wonder how that would go. 🤔

They should have the amount of money you have spent in the game in the last 30 days on your player profile for everyone to see 🤪

[tardy night]

Look at this crap.
10 powerplay wins could get you enough potions to get a skill enhanced. And then a DNA skill of 100 potions will crap all over it.

Cuz people gotta buy

And still they whine.

[digital glacier]

Brutal

I got demolished by a few players I beat on the regular. They had good skills and I didn't do mine. Crazy.
I used to win by ⅓ now I lose by nearly ½

[tardy night]

Would be funny seeing maxed stat sponsored dudes at 0$

[digital glacier]

I'd greatly enjoy seeing it 🤪

[tardy night]

Plenty who are too busy grinding to ever notice. Sadly.

[digital glacier]

I'd rather spectate them fight than the millionaires

[wide wraith]

even when i used to be outside the top 200 in CC i kept playing now i am in the top 10 every time, without spending the equivalent of the GRP of a small country

[digital glacier]

Im a little sad. But at the same time, I'm not.
I got so distracted doing the spreadsheet, I forgot 21 minutes was the secret task.
But i don't have the trouble of having to upload my avatar now 🤣

Secret task ended a bit ago. 😅

[tardy night]

We play the meta game. Which is more interesting than actual game

Actual game is.

Enter current cash flow

If current cash flow > opponent = reward win

If the player isn't a moron

[wide wraith]

communication to work together with others in your alliance helps a lot to work on different things

[tardy night]

Do tell me how I'm supposed to tell every f2p to stick around, when they exist only to be one hit ko.

It's a person with feelings regarding time they have put in. And that time is nullified entirely.

Cuz apparently grinding is not important.

Feeding a dumb millionaire his stock options is it. They might steal your company's patents while at it. All good.

[digital glacier]

If you can permanently kill off more than 1 years worth of troops in 1 hit
There's a problem
And with saying that.

There's a problem

[tardy night]

This isn't a fable. It's how most feel.

[late marsh]

Totally this is not about imroving game play or the game but maximising players having to pay in what is a slowly dying game. It like when the changed the alliance stores which is 90% unwanted crap (Totally love how they still give us a free Sarge every day)

[tardy night]

I'm not gonna kick anyone over not spending. Their house rent is more important than this game.

Sorry this management feels different.

Shy f****g leeches.

[digital glacier]

That was prior to live server. Based on ptr but they asked for feedback.

Overall, the price items are mostly decent.
Just what coins go to what store is absolute crap.
If there shrinking currency, 5 to 2
Went not just F make it 5:1 🤷
Sound too much like right tbh.

Happy vs decent
2 separate things.
Not happy with half of the prices.

[tardy night]

Mods. Jump on it like the slaves you are

[digital glacier]

That's not even a few hours for some 🤣

[tardy night]

Minutes*

[digital glacier]

Few minutes for others

A couple seconds for the "known by everyone" sos players

[tardy night]

Ha

No one knows those

Give me one SINGLE player from. 1300+ who knows who the whale from state 1 was

Temporary.

[digital glacier]

😅

Known by almost everyone 😅

[tardy night]

Give me one temporary player who knows what was spent on fart+ previous titles to get you all running

[tardy night]

Tell me. Who won the first reservoir league from state 1.

Then

Tell me
Who won the first hall of champions to get you there

You wouldn't even know what hall of champions was.

[digital glacier]

I don't remember that, so long ago. 🙈
To much of my brain I've used since then. 🤣

[tardy night]

🤣

So what is everyone fighting for

6 months of fame

[digital glacier]

It'll come to me, it's just burried so deep 🤣

[tardy night]

It literally doesn't matter
mufasa.

You remember. Perhaps.

Who else does?

By 2030 its deleted.

[digital glacier]

It don't matter we're all just wasting our lives in this right now any how

[tardy night]

You really think the folks at year 2031 gonna waste a second of their life remembering who won reservoir league at state 1-25

Then kudos to you

I built the kd which won global rank 1 in a fart+ game. 5 years given to it.

Saddest thing I ever did. If I could go back, I would never repeat it.

[digital glacier]

Like I said, were all just wasting our lives in it anyhow.

[tardy night]

Yep

One second at a time

[tepid rivet]

Why are backpack and stores suddenly new graphics mode? Can't you just leave us alone with this crap. Whoever wants new graphics, let them use it with the switch button, it has a reason why some people don't use new graphics. Annoying

[digital glacier]

@tepid rivet

Several comments about it from me. You might get a laugh out of it 🤷🤣

[west fog]

In English they say 'great minds think alike', in German we say 'two stupids, one thought' which is more down to earth honestly.

[tardy night]

60$ for the title to be played as is.

Anyone?

[digital glacier]

Devs failed math.
I feel sorry for anyone wanting a better airplane

[stable cosmos]

This title isn't worth $60 really. But if $60 got me the whole game, in perpetuity all dlc included forever, I'd probably buy it at this point. That of course means that there is a permanent drip feed of everything, so i can max out everything and the only stuff that is paid for is optional cosmetics that provide no bonus.

F---plus would never do that though so i never have to put my money where my mouth is

[patent olive]

ITS BEEN 10 HOURS

All idle all biocas

Wtf

Is this jungle gems?????

Any Devs pls fix jungle gems

I don't give a f, for making feedback about gems

But pls

Don't give bios 100000000%

[stable cosmos]

We don't talk about bios. Believe me when i say if they make changes to jg they will make it worse and not do what you would like

[thorny plume]

STAB FFS

Sucks with free bio, i know. Now you can make free heroes at rays or get free vip. But for god sake, stop talking about it already. Yes they might change it so you get less bio, but you wont get more bombs either way.

So stop talking about bio

Not ever anywhere have i heard anyone complain about free stuff

[patent olive]

I prefer make it worst than 100% Biocaps in idle, devs make it higher probability of Biocaps on purpose

[patent olive]

Better change it to diamond instead of Biocaps
499 diamonds is 2500 biocaps

But yeah problem is gems will be much easier to complete 🤷

[west fog]

Why on earth would you force everyone to use their diamonds crap?

[patent olive]

Rita is unobtainable as F2P (idk what bios doing when I can't locate Rita and Olly in newest state)

[cursive vessel]

I don't even know what to say, make it worse i don't want bios 🙄🤦‍♀️

Stupid, honestly

[west fog]

[thorny plume]

Im also trying to find words here

But they are lost, and thats rare

Let us know when you see the value of bio 🙂 you cant use wood metal gas or even Ascension needles on Rita. Yet we get that aswell.

This game isnt state of acquiring Rita

Bio has a ton of uses, getting heroes is one of them.

Also dont put to much energy into Rita or olly. They are quite quickly outdated. You are better off building a good control march, a good resilence and a good berserk march

[weak ingot]

I think Rita is still the meta control hero, but she will be replaced one day soon

[thorny plume]

If you gonna spend diamonds on something, wait for anniversary and acquire a special ops

[weak ingot]

also to everyone giving Jungle Gems and fishing challenge feedback, STFU.

[thorny plume]

Couldnt agree more

[weak ingot]

Those are the TWO good events in the game, and the last time we opened our mouths about it, THEY NERFED JUNGLE GEMS

IT USED TO GIVE BARGAIN RSS TOO

[thorny plume]

Yes its much worse now tbh, and they moved the good statues down to the 100 euro + spend area

[weak ingot]

You mention something good again, they'll nerf it again.

[thorny plume]

They will because every week some new naive individual will come by and complain about the free stuff

[weak ingot]

There's a reason they haven't brought back the airplane challenges and it's cuz they messed up and gave everyone the ability to hit max rewards and rather than risk that happening again, they just scrapped it completely.

[thorny plume]

Not understanding that they will simply not give bombs for free every round. That sounds unrealistic. If you want max reward, spend a little

Really? I have forgotten about that one

I litteraly raised a dead account i had from the grave to buy 300 needles the last time they screwed up 😂

[weak ingot]

eah, gen 2 variant for the heli, they accidentally messed up dmg calculations so everyone could one hit ko for like 3 hours which messed up everything

So they just never introduced the gen 3 variant as a "fix"

[thorny plume]

Ah yes and then they fixed it but made it worse

Luckily gen 3 is finished, we probably getting a gen 4 soon 🤮

[weak ingot]

Orrrrr like we complained about the uhhhh

Not enough coal

Remind me what they did with that?

[thorny plume]

So we get less

Well now we can buy it

Or the Tempest gear. We complained we can only reforge once so they made gen 3 infinite but also a infinite amount costlier

[weak ingot]

This has happened time and time again with everything, its why i downvote ANY feedback even mentioning Jungle gems or fishing

[thorny plume]

So it never goes our way when we complain so yes. Maybe complain less about free stuff and just go enjoy.. i find it weird people dont understand

[weak ingot]

It takes them 2 years to add in one feedback from years ago, but if we complain about a good event and they notice, it'll be nerfed the next day

[thorny plume]

Remember the time they handed out too much bio in the giveaway ?

They litteraly closed the game for everyone that had gotten some, even if just 1000... At the start of SVs combat

They broke svs combat during a migo to confiscate stuff they had given away

So when a error or something costs funplus money they would travel in time to fix it. When it is us that are getting the short stick nothing happened

Im thinking nearly 5 years in people should know this

[untold stag]

On something completely unrelated, you have to love troop day in SvS, especially when the overall score looks like this:

[stable cosmos]

There are SO MANY things for points today. Its ridiculous. Spread it out a bit more

[cloud ridge]

No dream event but bundles?

[west fog]

It's never the wrong time if it makes money.

[winter echo]

Sometimes events start a couple hours after reset. 🙈

[west fog]

Will those anniversary items be usable again that we got from those anniversary carriages that were roaming the states even weeks after anniversary 's end?

I know the answer already of course 😸

[winter echo]

Usually with the special events, they create new currencies and stuff when the next one starts. So I doubt you’ll be able to but I can ask to find out for sure if you’d like me to. ☺️

[west fog]

If you're going to ask something, then please ask in general when we'll be able to remove such items ourselves from our backpacks. I wouldn't want them to do a cleanup of the whole database themselves, because that may easily lead to fully emptied backpacks... 😂

[winter echo]

It would be nice to be able to give away things we don’t need. 😂

[west fog]

I also have one of each fireworks in my backpack because last time the according event was around, someone noticed a couple of days in that 100% couldn't be achieved the way it was then. But I unfortunately saw that I got those items by compensation mail only after the event had finished.

[cloud ridge]

Maybe we need to buy dream bundles to access the event in our actual dreams

[pallid willow]

I love teddy bears but i hate these developers

[bright crypt]

To add to my co-mod, the event is online now

[digital glacier]

Anyone wanna make bets if I get my in state rank rewards from customer support, because I still have gotten it, before the event disappears to buy something for 6k gold?

[noble grotto]

Mine came in right after reset

[digital glacier]

So did 2 of my other accounts, but not that one.

00:00:09 time stamp I believe

[thorny hornet]

Is there a display bug with the coin conversion or does it really drop off at 5K coins converted?

[cosmic lance]

Any mod online ? <@&628563208164081690>

[calm meteor]

Are you saying you can not select more than 5K coins? Slider doesn't seem to be at maximum

[calm meteor]

Hey Karma. Sorry for the delay, how can I help?

[thorny hornet]

no, the total coins rewarded at 5K seems to drop down to 1K coins when 4999 coins redeemed to 9998 coins

[calm meteor]

Oh this seems like a bug. Have you opened a ticket with CS?

[solemn kraken]

looks like maybe they don't have enough space to show all the zeros

[thorny hornet]

I haven't tested it to see if it is just a display bug because i don't want to potentially waste coins

[thorny hornet]

this is what i think is the issue, but i don't want to test it

[calm meteor]

It can just be a visual. Give me a minute, I will check for you

[calm meteor]

It is just a visual error. You will get a confirmation page showing correct number

[cosmic lance]

I need to complain about something

[calm meteor]

What do you want to complain about?

[calm meteor]

Please send me a DM if I am not responding here. I will assist you.

[wide wraith]

with this new store will matching improve or will the usual state be favoured as per usual

[vernal moss]

Hi shadow, i'd imagine there will be no changes at this time. However i'd encourage to keep an eye out in #⭐︱game_information for any updates regarding that relation to the new store.

[wide wraith]

its bad, we have it in 998, a lot of the stuff depends on the number of event wins in KotH, namely 12 but how are states supposed to win any when the matching is so bad and will these wins depend on just legion 1 or legion 1 and 2

how can we trust anything in game information when our supposed CM is just a spy-bot who never interacts with the community

[vernal moss]

I understand the frustration on it, we're all having the same issue. I think it's coming to a point where it's too difficult to match the majority fairly due to the lack of numbers and the upgrade progression.

[wide wraith]

then the Devs need to either change the event or lower the limit

these tier matches need to go, so that matches can be fairer

[jolly harness]

I'm always doing legion 2 in KOTH because those matches are more fair then the tier matches.
This week we have one alliance 1B BP. The other 4.5B BP
My alliance is 100+ B BP

On the plus side... It's an hour I could feel like a whale

[wide wraith]

its not the strength that is the main issue, its the numbers, my players just dont want to play it

[storm solstice]

@mossy steppe
I don't get your feedback - there's still 5 for me 🤔

[rocky otter]

They made endless blue things for t12. It make me scared. Can use all plasmas at one

[tidal apex]

Are those new "improved 🤣" fiend intel rewards or is it not implemented yet?

[stable cosmos]

Yours is better than mine

Huh, epic, the icon was gold. Apparently they can't even get that right now

[mossy steppe]

Hi, yes there are 5 try as always for basic plasma. but previous to last update which was yesterday. when you use on of the 5 tries you got always some amount of plasma for every try. now I got plasma only from 2 of them. so don't know if the change from 100% from every try was reduced or it's some mistake.

[cursive vessel]

What is the point of this digger?? 😂🤦‍♀️

[mossy cairn]

Alliance collab and you gets some basic rewards.

[stable cosmos]

I think its more about the rewards there. Unless thats state 2000, nobody needs any of those items. Heck, i doubt anyone below state 1200 needs them

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, nobody needs them rewards. That was my point really 😅

And basic rewards is an understatement 😂

[cloud ridge]

Where 👀

Some dig rewards are useless, but on most part there decent, easy passive stuff

[solemn kraken]

just... don't dig

[wide wraith]

always dig, just use common sense whether to send back for the rewards

just because you dont need, doesnt mean someone in your alliance might not need

[cursive vessel]

It did get dug up, it was more of a, why did they bother adding that to a digger moment really 😅

[wide wraith]

yeah we got aircraft stuff lol, my plane is maxed but their is always the stealth lol

[rocky otter]

Gold ones rewards are pretty good but purples mehhh

[lucid yew]

Old states don't have that bad digs luckily. We have all gens plane materials, behemoth xp&biobatteries, speedups etc

[cloud ridge]

Always dig

Digs are good regardless of rewards, just of course some better than others

[cursive vessel]

It's not a new state, 600s aren't new (they're not as old as some but they're not new) 😅

[lucid yew]

What's wrong with koth tier matches? Once your rank settles down, you should find opponents more or less winnable. The only case when it's bad is if players have left the alliance. Then it's more likely to be a losing streak. I like ranking matches way more than so called matchmaking in many other events

[lucid yew]

Oh wow, we're in 600's as well but haven't had that bad digs ever (yet) is that a new thing for you?

[cursive vessel]

I think I saw one like that when they were first released but not since.
It is what it is, it just made me chuckle a bit at how lucky everyone would be from my dig 😅

[thorny plume]

I am glad to announce that I have finally tested my dud run theory on jungle gems.

I have noticed that on the pay hqs you will get less drops.
My f2p alts have all caught up to the pay 2 win hq.
The pay 2 win hq have bought the 3 small, 2 next and then next pack on jungle gems every day and is currently on 31.
Three of my alts are on same level f2p.
Difference is they started quite good with varied drops, pay account had low drops and inconvinent bonus stages.
All bases started at 00:00 release day.

So my theory is tested three times now.
If the run starts out bad it will continue bad, no point spending unless you are level 20 by noon.

So have a bad run = dont spend a dime. And it seems if it starts good it continues good and then its worth while spending if you wanna reach 50.

Seems kind of pre determined what kind of loot/drop group you are in

Previous time my pay 2 win had a great run. Thing is you can identify what kind of jungle gems session you get quite early and after that make decisions weather you wish to spend or not

[wide wraith]

2 of my accounts on lvl28, missed a couple of times on both though, without paying

bad run on one, pretty good to start on the other

[thorny plume]

It seems a bit pre determined. I have 5 Tempest alts, and also use them for jungle gems. I can quite early predict which ones that will go "far" as f2p.

Ironically i made them because its impossible to ascend on main. I did 15/16 bad ascensions in a row with good gear I bought in markets (like 200 + health for inf and 200-300 Leth on hunter ø)
Absolutely every Ascension and reforge was bad. So i tried alts. And im making more good rares and ultra rares on them then common

Seems they have certain bases flagged or pre nerfed. I dont wanna play by those rules, its scummy mechanics. So made alts and everything is better.
See same on jungle gems and other similar rng based events

Would be better if it was just fair play and fair mechanics all the way so that we didnt have to jump trough hoops to avoid them but hey here we are

[tardy night]

This is them doing fair play.

F2p accounts can't forge and ascend at the same rate as spenders. If the rate was same for all, f2p would never get a march equipped with decent stuff, let alone 3 of them.

In a full Migo run, f2p get maybe 5 essence. Maybe 6.

Survival royale takes 10 to 15 matches for f2p to get 20k essence.

In a full Migo run, spenders ascend what. 30? 50?

The two cannot have the same rates if you want any equity.

It's one thing I personally feel is fine. You always have the option to simply acquire via auction from better forges saving yourself some money.

[zealous scroll]

Why is my statue effects don't work?

[grim steppe]

Go to collection -> decoration -> choose statue and click on this

[thorny plume]

How is falsely advertised odds fair play ?
And in a migo run you dont get more then a couple ascensions as payer either 🤷

We have the same stores.

[thorny plume]

And no, no you dont. Spending 10k on gear isnt saving money

[tardy night]

-you- are spending 10k on gear, cuz -you- have the gambling issue when it comes to tempests.

We have talked of this before.

[thorny plume]

😂 actually no, i dont. I have alts and perfect gear more or less

I made my gear myself

But on alts

My point is that they pre nerf spenders to encourage more spending

[tardy night]

I'm not gonna waste my time showing you the ss of you admitting you worked on hundreds of tempests. It's there in the dc. Go refresh your memory.

An f2p, since tempest introduction, would have worked on maybe 30.

[thorny plume]

And ill rather spend time and energy circumsicing that then spending money

[tardy night]

So you have the means to circumvent the problem. Use it.

[thorny plume]

Its thousands, not hundreds. Not sure if thats gambling tough

[tardy night]

😂😂😂

[thorny plume]

I know its a loss, its not gambling when i know its a loss. But it gave points in events + coins for market. But yes you are also right, i have means to circumvent it. But i would much rather prefer it beeing fair odds as advertised if you understand 🙂

And you might also be slightly correct when it comes to the gambling 🤐

[tardy night]

Pity method exists across all gacha. Can debate whether it should improve, but it exists for a reason.

That's like arguing for the same tax brackets across the income pool. Your ideology will determine which side of that argument you see.

[thorny plume]

So little bit gambling issue perhaps

It could be the pity method but also the hook or what its called. The pity method is when they let you get something with increased odds after a certain amount of tries, while the hook is often used in mobile games when they give increased odds now and then to encourage spending.

[tardy night]

You don't get any increased tries as f2p in tempest.

So what they can influence is the odds

[thorny plume]

Hmmm no offense but then you doing it wrong 🙂 i have tonns of free on my alts

Maybe 4-6 a month on each hq

[tardy night]

I know what to do for what my account needs. I'm talking of the average f2p with neither the time nor the inclination to

1. Make alts
2. Spend
3. Learn intricacies of the game for 10+ hours of grinding when they will die anyway.

Just 1 account takes upwards of 2 hours if you do everything on it

[thorny plume]

Not going into details here as i dont want it nerfed
But yes alts play a fair role and doesnt require much energy.

But well that put aside that would explain why alts have better rate

But it doesnt explain why payers have so terrible odds

Unless they advertise their avarage well knowing its alts pulling the avarage up

[tardy night]

Their odds have been wrong for almost every event feasible. They exist so they don't get hammered with lawsuits

But you're not gonna prove that without substantial efforts.

Or breaking their terms

[thorny plume]

Neither seems optional

So back to my method for jumping trough hoops ø, it just feels weird having to do that rather then just having more accurate odds.

[tardy night]

Peeps used to do it. Stuff like the x10 or x100 having better odds after certain attempts isn't displayed anywhere

Present on the code 🤷🏻‍♂️

[thorny plume]

No doubt, there is some clever people out there.
Some probably still do. I have found my ways, same as casino most players know when jackpot or payouts is due but somehow they still spin when its low or bad. The slot machine obviusly have a happy mode and a take your coins mode

Atleast what I am doing is legal 🤓

[vale yoke]

Tbh once I figured out generally what each account was "encouraged" with, and in what events, it made focusing on different things easier for me. Overall, it really improved my gameplay, in that I play much less than I did because why bother lol

In all seriousness, we've all known about the differences in accounts on different spending tiers and how the odds always seem to favor one or the other here or there. Unfortunately, many of us have had to make it work because the devs aren't really willing to alter anything when their current MoD works so well.

[tepid rivet]

Thank you for the implementation

[digital glacier]

I like and appreciate what devs did here.
But. I have a problem with this.
We've grown accustomed to particular pieces being in a particular spot, or order.
Like for example....
Those tiny decorations that give march capacity used to be grouped all together.

Now it's sorted differently.
I do appreciate the sorting of
Not acquired vs acquired and not built, vs built....

But it's hard now to find a certain decoration because it's now sorting them by star level too. 😭

^ That's cool easy to get every statue

Ffs I just excited the game 10 seconds ago and this

[tropic galleon]

Ahh thanks,it worked

[thorny plume]

I understand the old stores is closed so we have to change our currency?

Is this bad idea or should i wait?

[wide wraith]

for a game who wouldnt change CC on Christmas Day because they said not everyone celebrated it, why the huge Christmas Event???

[west fog]

Because money.

[wide wraith]

its not even like its anything special just the usual junk

[thorny plume]

If dice event it could be ok, all depending on your group

Its a very unfair event and if you are matched with big spenders you can get quite lucky and get quite far for nearly nothing

[cursive vessel]

None of it'll be good, it'll be another 90% paywall 🙄

[thorny plume]

All depends on your group

[wide wraith]

thats what i mean the usual junk and the Devs are dumb enough to think thats what we want

[west fog]

Most of us still will swallow it and pay. So why improve?

[cursive vessel]

I stopped spending, i won't even lower myself to 89p 😂

[west fog]

Besides what Heart said, make sure to enable it again after building any decoration. And hope that this will be fixed with next major update as they've promised.

[wide wraith]

i wonder who will tell them Christmas is a time for giving not receiving, so time they started giving

[west fog]

With us I meant the player base, not the few illuminated in here 😂

[cursive vessel]

Like their anniversary event?

[jolly harness]

We give though

[cursive vessel]

Thanks for sticking with us, give us more money 😂

[cloud ridge]

We give them our money

They give us bugs and more gap

[cursive vessel]

I'm in a good mood today 😅

[wide wraith]

yeah but what do they give other than more bugs

[cloud ridge]

I'm waiting, will probably get screwed either way and expecting them to recycle to resource crates

[west fog]

So to make it short, another farce incoming. I even could copy paste my feedback about anniversary without changing anything but the name of the event for sure.

[jolly harness]

and overload of events to never be bored. loaded with bugs ( or extra features ) for us to look for

Christmas is also a time to be thankful. So be thankfull we get all the stuff we didn't even know we wanted or even needed

[wide wraith]

i am still waiting for the compensation from the first Nexus the @feral sinew said was coming. of course the BOT will probably say it was a system error

I know what they could give us for Christmans, a CM who actually does stuff for and communicates with the Community and isnt just a BOT

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, won't happen

[west fog]

Just realized STAB is pretty flexible... Stop Talking About Bots😂

[wide wraith]

even the Mods have stopped defending her

[digital glacier]

Why does everything in the background get resized when there's a popup?
Ever think maybe this has something to do with why there's some windows that are obnoxiously slow

[thorny plume]

Last anniversary wasnt terrible tough, but it did require spending

[cursive vessel]

Really? I got a frame from that event 😂

It was terrible

[wide wraith]

i didnt even get a frame

[cursive vessel]

I only just made getting the frame

But even so, it was a terrible event unless you put money in to it

[west fog]

Selling your birthday cake. That's what the rich people do.

[cloud ridge]

It was awful for f2p

As it was basically non existent for rewards, it was awful for p2w, as required money

It was only a good event for FP

[thorny plume]

Oh i spendt a little on jungle gems both rounds and some here and there, less then 700 (i had sat aside for anniversary) and got several statues including queen or who it was that round + opened Angelica and upto 4 + both sides unlocked

So for some it was quite good. F2p it sucked

And it was over 3 weeks so i did no other spending

• it was wings hqs etc and a ton of pearls aswell so i dunno but the Angelica isolated got quite cheap. Even got the unlock from the Ferris wheel

[cursive vessel]

That was kinda my point, it was good if you spent. It was terrible for everyone else

Christmas will be the same

All events are the same

[west fog]

It's not right that it was awful for f2p. I didn't pay a dime and got several hq skins that were missing to complete sets.
But it still involved spending money to keep the gap between rich and poor alive. That's what I find disgusting for an anniversary.

[wraith vapor]

If you are a spender low to mid even, u can get a few items from all events but problem is majority of the people are Ftp so doesnt help when every thing is behind pay wall. If its not, some genius complains and get stores and items changed. I saw that message yesterday about it. Who got the items for ultra skills more expensive and reduced. God forbid,, ftp and low spender gets something and not have 15 million troops killed with a solo march. Those people are the problem. I spend, sometimes way more than I should but I will always support ftp cuz unless you have transferred to a major spending alliance. Most of your members are ftp.

[thorny plume]

To be fair, f2p today can get free heroes in rays if they bother logging in every 6 hours +-
And that should close the gap. I find it harder to zero people in ress raid etc now then previously.
Hmmm but what message you mean ? We getting those fancy needles without ranking impossibly high ?

[cursive vessel]

My red heroes don't stop me burning 😂

[wraith vapor]

Well the reason u can't zero people in RR easily is the defence stats which you have to choose. Heroes do help but try it against svs and you will notice the difference.
Also, maxing heroes just from rays is not easy. It's costs 202,500 bios each days for all spins. That's 607,500 bios per event. That only gives you 28 of the new heroes and roughly 180 of the last gen.
That's a lot of bios for ftp, even if you login every 6 hours and collect JG and Fishing.

[wraith vapor]

There was some genius here who got the behemoth ultra rare crates reduced by 99 percent in limit and 14 times more expensive than ptr

[wraith vapor]

Absolutely, i can show u reports of red heroes giving a nice burning glow as well 😂

[thorny plume]

Well same for SVs etc. My punch was harder before everyone was able to get new heroes to red. So i believe up to small time spenders the gap id smaller. But up to the big whales its less gap then ever

[wraith vapor]

Most people are burned by high, very high and too much money to know what to do spenders 😂

[cursive vessel]

I got hit by a 17b account and I went up in flames. Red heroes, purple heroes, whatever, it makes no difference in that situation 😂

[wraith vapor]

Oh i know, 17 billion is just BP means not much. Most people get burned easily now. Heroes can't do much with all the additional crap they keep on adding constantly

[cursive vessel]

Yeah, i just meant, he had pretty much everything maxed out. So regardless of what heroes I do or don't have, they don't make a difference in a situation like that 😅
My hqs look pretty on fire though 😂

[tardy night]

The difference is this.

F2p are targeted by the other 20% as the easiest hits. Of which at least 10% can kill them in less than 5 hits. Undoing 2 years of work.

You are maybe targeted by the 1%.

[wraith vapor]

Yeah i know, for some reason people still have that misconception that heroes itself will save ya. They do help dont get me wrong but to a certain extent.
I think what he was talking about ftp being hit by low spender and yes that is correct, not easy for them to burn ftp but most of the excessive burners are the whales and megalodons so that doesn't help

[wraith vapor]

Haha didn't see u already said that 😂

[soft gulch]

Desert Royale is nice, cat and mouse game

problem is that player is given only 1 chance/day to play monster, but unlimited chance to play as human. Result -- the matches are hard to find when playing as human. This can be fixed, but FP wants to moneyhat with Pass.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

@tidal juniper

[silent pike]

I have noticed that matching solo in Dessert Survival can be hard or almost impossible but when playing in a team it will become easier to match. Longest i had to wait as a team was about 1 min 30 sec for a match

[cloud ridge]

Dessert survival shouldn't even be literally a pay to play event, just make it non limited attempts for monster

[silent pike]

That would be a good suggestion for a feedback report.
You can make a feedback report here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in the channel or you can reach out if you need help making one

[soft gulch]

That makes purgatory a lil easy -- making a Human team. But it still takes obscene time.

Fundamentally, play as monster chances should be more. And let them be earned, like every star earned playing as Human gets you a Monster chance.

[silent pike]

That would be a nice compromise for f2p and low to mid spenders that like playing as a monster

[jolly harness]

Udham the discord complainer ✌️

[prisma igloo]

so 10th december they are available last day

[worn pewter]

anyone else having issues with gems not knocking off boxes that you click

I have had horizontal and verticals not work

[astral stratus]

I just did quite some levels and had no issues with it

[wide wraith]

it is so wrong that states 961-1014 have the new stores open already so KoH wins to get the new hero store equipment will have an extra week, how are they going to measure KoH wins from now or from all time???

[astral stratus]

Its apparently test state range, i guess nothing we can do about it Shadow

[worn pewter]

I have said this too many times

[wide wraith]

those states are still Gen 12 so way behind

[worn pewter]

There should be no "test states" they have a server for testing

[wide wraith]

even if they need test states they should be random not the same ones all the time

[worn pewter]

If they keep up the test server appropriately they have no need for testing in states