📋︱feedback-discussion

[steel musk]

stats?

[lavish heron]

Oh wow

[steel musk]

1.5k moral

[steel musk]

🤣🤣🤣

[ruby delta]

bro them amplifications would have eaten u lol

[lavish heron]

They are way stronger than you by those stats

You don’t stand a chance

[tardy night]

That BP is low only cuz no behemoth on the 3rd March.

[lavish heron]

I can only imagine their other things like behe and the rest

[steel musk]

her stats almost max..
356 bp without behemoth is a lot also

[lavish heron]

Exactly. Means that’s a massive whale

You obviously don’t stand a chance cause that will be their 3rd March

[ancient stratus]

And this shieat don't work either

[ruby delta]

blue yamira in 3rd march lol, wonder their first two march hero lol

[lavish heron]

Who even uses this?? I never use it. It’s trash

[ancient stratus]

Its for food, are you new to the game?

[lavish heron]

I know and my question is still the same… who uses it??

No one cares about it cause it’s worthless and useless

[tardy night]

Pay more attention. It's not useful only for food.

[lavish heron]

Someone is angry and in his feelings

[lavish heron]

They would have Selina, Angelica, the rat etc

[ruby delta]

i hope they don’t use the Rat

[ancient stratus]

Ladies first

[steel musk]

think when march die.. we need to select again

[ancient stratus]

Auto don't work

[steel musk]

think it's bugged then

[ruby delta]

i thought that was easy to work out

put the people who use the most food as commander of highest food per min builds

then leave it

[lavish heron]

Yeah but if that building is taken from you, you loose the benefit.

[tardy night]

Loose = Opposite of tight

Lose = opposite of win

Doesn't have to be the first language to correct it, can always choose to ignore and continue with the wrong usage too

[stray acorn]

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[ruby delta]

sima i will say, he did start with being chill, the puffer fish was the one getting rude lol

[stray acorn]

Fish is never to be blamed

[ruby delta]

[stray acorn]

even if it was fish fault still no one have right to say such a thing to another one

smol fish

[dim marlin]

Hi sima

[stray acorn]

hello noice mod

[ruby delta]

i know nobody should tbh both of them are being as bad as each other

[stray acorn]

[dim marlin]

How can i help you sima

[stray acorn]

plz check the post I've mentioned u on by replay

[ruby delta]

[stray acorn]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

here

[last hazel]

[stray acorn]

gib ice cream

[tardy night]

Fish #modapplication

[last hazel]

Nope, I have just 1

[dim marlin]

Thanks for help sima

[stray acorn]

unoice

[stray acorn]

[tardy night]

They have a conveyor belt of sushi in mod server

[stray acorn]

where to sign

[last hazel]

Here

😂

[stray acorn]

[vale yoke]

There's sushi in the mod server?!

OPEN THEM APPS

[stray acorn]

[vale yoke]

My Simaaaaa, you're the best. I needed your slipper the other day, tbh.

[tardy night]

This is where it's fart+ trickery. It's only the conveyor belt.

[vale yoke]

sniffle

What about a dev chat?

And a goat?

[tardy night]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

They took the constellations suggestion but not the entire reason they were suggested in the first place

[vale yoke]

I want a march skin that screams while prancing across the screen to headbutt the opponent, and then prances back pleased as punch

[jolly harness]

9999 diamonds for a week and we have a deal 🤝

[vale yoke]

Yes please and thank you, Chek. Can I just have that, actually?

[rapid phoenix]

Let's remember to only post, SoS related media in that channel, thanks

[tardy night]

So many ways they can feed the muh war game crowd while bringing in goats.

[rapid phoenix]

As mentioned again, let's refrain from sending any content not related to SoS in this channel

[tardy night]

Ye ye we know

Meanwhile remind the Devs not to copy paste other media into the game. We might start pointing it all out

[stray acorn]

omg where

[vale yoke]

Another title, you probably don't wanna come near it tbh

[stray acorn]

have this noice slipper omg

[vale yoke]

It's so pretty!

[pallid willow]

Whatever we down vote is the best thing ever to apply according to devs right?

[steel musk]

they just make events worse

[mighty gorge]

Down voting doesn't make any difference, the suggestions get submitted anyway even if it has hundreds of negative votes

[vale yoke]

That part

[digital glacier]

❤️

[digital glacier]

If devs implement a 🐶💩 version of tetris, we should all be able to laugh and joke about how bad sos managed to make a modified version of tetris considering tetris is like what, 40 years old 🤷
Just sayin.
Also, they use the same name for the event as a game that's in the Google play store with a similar theme. Just sain.

The audacity of any mod or version thereof who enforces or has enforced such a rule when it is blatantly advertised in state of survival should lose all credibility and credentials to hold any position of authority.

[digital glacier]

Submit that as feedback.

[digital glacier]

Please specify the rule in the feedback.

Thanks.

[rapid phoenix]

Firstly, I understand that many of us didn’t enjoy the event that resembled Tetris or whatever it was called.... I’m not disagreeing with that. If there’s an issue with the event, we’re fully able to submit feedback and I can write it for you, and there’s nothing wrong with doing so. However, that’s not what I was addressing. I was simply pointing out that any media or pictures unrelated to SoS aren’t allowed in this channel. There are specific channels for non-related content. If you have concerns about this rule, feel free to open a #🚨︱contact_an_lmod ticket, and the LMOD team can explain further.

[vale yoke]

This was in response to the picture which had been posted regarding a potential skin or statue, I assume? Rion, would there be somewhere more appropriate to include that as feedback alongside the picture for reference?

[rapid phoenix]

One moment please

[steel musk]

what did I missed

[hollow pebble]

No way to get around that stupid support system with the new AI stuff?

[rapid phoenix]

Hey again liannin 😅 sorry for the delay it was the longest "one moment" ever 😂 yes you can send it here #📋︱feedback-reporting with the feedback, I'd also like to write it if @tardy night and you would like 😅,and kindly let me know again what is the feedback about?

an HQ skin or statue? 🤔

[vale yoke]

It was regarding the use of the Capricornus statuette to be used with the other Zodiac statues, but at this point, it seems like they've already got Capricorn. I believe Chek helpfully posted an example the devs would have been able to have used, while still keeping it SoS-themed.
In any case, I was more asking generally, if people have suggestions with a photo attachment which may not meet this channel's rules, would that be something a player should directly contact a moderator regarding having posted, to ensure compliance?

And don't worry about the length of time searching. I'd rather a correct answer than a fast one.

[rapid phoenix]

Ok so.... It's always a good idea to check with a moderator to see if something can be posted. However if it's a skin suggestion or something similar as a suggestion , you can go ahead and share it in #📋︱feedback-reporting with a feedback saying/requesting it as a skin or whatever it's the case. I'm still double-checking and will update you with more details (will take a little time as well)👍

[vale yoke]

No problem, as I said, I'd rather a correct (informative and well-reasoned) answer than a quick one.
I know some things could be more of a sensitive nature, and I personally defer to someone with more knowledge if I have questions before posting. But it's helpful for others here to know what they can do for these types of situations

Thanks Rion, no rush.

[rapid phoenix]

👍

[last hazel]

I want my star's statue to be beautiful

[vale yoke]

I got Lucky for mine, I think. Virgo whimsy or whatever. Not mad, just... Lucky doesn't really give "Virgo" lol but it's fine

I still want muh goat march though. And muh dev chat.

[digital glacier]

There is something I'd like to see.
A channel created that would have a very simple question pinned at the top of the channel.

What bugs/glitches exist today, that were bugs/glitches 4 years ago or longer?

(clearly this channel would be for VETERAN players , but it would also go to show what bugs and how many have existed for at least 4 years that have yet to be fixed) the number of bugs / glitches might surprise you 😆, especially the new players

[vale yoke]

laughs in beta bugs still exist

[last hazel]

When you get your devs talk , can you please let them know to make Sagittarius statue to be more beautiful?

[vale yoke]

If I ever do, then yes, for you, Ni.

[last hazel]

[digital glacier]

Can you ask them why sos don't follow the tos they expect the players to follow. 🤔

[vale yoke]

I mean I can, but ..

[digital glacier]

I need more than a "kamala" answer. To the question 🤣

[last hazel]

Mufasa, you are making it hard for devs to do the devs talk .

[digital glacier]

.

Oh look at the post right before mine 🤣🤣🤣

[vale yoke]

It's honestly like asking Apple why they funnel money through other countries to avoid taxations and whatever. You'll get an answer, but it's not gonna be the one you want, or even remotely the actual reasoning.

[digital glacier]

🤣

[vale yoke]

You make me feel so heard, Mufasa.

Had to make sure I typed "heard" properly lol

Tbh though, I fully am under the belief that even if they did begin to schedule the dev chats, I still wouldn't receive mine, because they can basically pull my opinions from several places and get the idea. So we'd just be talking about, idk, the weather?

[digital glacier]

There's something im sure you could talk about that you haven't said anywhere. I mean, I know a few things I've never mentioned anywhere 🤷

[vale yoke]

They also likely don't feel I have any contributions toward very specific demographics because I have made it clear I do not spend anymore and historically haven't really invested all that much financially into the game. So I'm in a sort of middling space in terms of the type of customer to reach.
I'm not their desired target demographic, and I won by a fluke.

[digital glacier]

I wasn't their desired demographic when they sent messages out to select individuals about a paid sos survey. I wasn't supposed to have it. I got it on an alt created years later in an ancient state. I guess they sent the surveys out randomly by user ID or something. 🤣

[vale yoke]

Oh absolutely. They could 100000% ask my opinions or even observations regarding whatever topics they wanted - including spending metrics - and I'd have a lot to talk about, from a player perspective having been a whale in another title, as well as from a business perspective as a private business owner.
If they wanted to talk about revenue streams, engagement and adverts, anything like that, I could. There's just a bunch I don't say here because they watch this space through pretend player accounts.

[digital glacier]

They were shocked to say the least when I told them the state # 🤣

[digital glacier]

Yup. So much to discuss.

[vale yoke]

Simply put, I really do feel like I won on a fluke, and that they don't schedule me or players like me simply because they're pigeonholed into believing we have nothing to contribute like the whales do when they ask them "what would keep you spending?"

[digital glacier]

The best thing that happened for sos was C19. Without that this game would be nowhere near as successful as it ever was or is.

Anyhow, all my boring sos stuff done before the everlasting grind at 0utc 🤣 I think it's movie time or something.

[jolly harness]

jesus ya'll been writen books here

[vale yoke]

You know what would make me spend? It's super easy. Not even fixing the game overall because clearly that can't happen with a fragmented revolving door of project teams.
My spending could easily be influenced by a company which puts as much effort into its community as it does its profit margin. But I don't see that from this company.
I see fast profits, fast server death, and even faster disinterest as players select other games which aren't from FunPlus (and they have started checking developers when selecting games, because of how the standard operating procedure mimics this type of p2w mtx live service model, and players are tired)

I write novels in feedback, this has been a thing for years now.

[digital glacier]

Probably goto a park or something, go lay down, up against a tree on this beautiful day. Maybe take a nap while I'm there 🤪 who knows.
Have fun girl. 😘

[vale yoke]

Yeah I'm bout to head down to work for a bit, then make some dinner, gotta log into my other game for stuff too

The kids have the next two days off, so prolly should get some groceries because these boys will eat all of my food

[digital glacier]

Me too. Writing novels 🤣

[vale yoke]

And sending people math

[digital glacier]

Gotta give these normies some time to read and catch up 😂

[stable cosmos]

I'd read the books. I was hoping there were more books

[vale yoke]

Done with work now. What kind of books would you prefer to read, Cyan? In regards to novels in feedback

[rapid phoenix]

double-checked, and it appears that as long as the picture is not random and has relevant context particularly related to feedback here or in the #📋︱feedback-reporting channel it can be sent and is considered appropriate/related content, hope that this helps a bit, also concerning the picture that has been sent before as a feedback, I still liked to write a feedback about it because I believe while checking right now there is no Capricorn statue yet (checked in-game now) so yes 😅 here the feedback as well #📋︱feedback-reporting message if you'd like and @tardy night (sorry for the tag again) check it and let me know if you want to add/adjust anything.

[vale yoke]

Thank you so much, both for the feedback as well as the clarification regarding how players can request such things in a responsible manner consistent with the rules and directives of both the player server and this channel.
I upvoted!

And for checking for the Capricorn aura statue, too

We obviously can't stop them from adding statues, but we can maybe help direct developer teams to how we might prefer them to be designed. Again, thanks so much, Rion

Side note, I like Strings Libra statue, I thought that was pretty appropriate to use the puppets similar to scales.

[rapid phoenix]

Agreed, It's important that at least the statues reflect what players want and can be optimized accordingly. I understand your point, and you're welcome anytime

[stable cosmos]

Is Ram aries? I forget but that would have been super apt as well

[vale yoke]

Capricorn is a goat, Aries is a ram, yes.

[last hazel]

Sagittarius is an archer
Just saying

[vale yoke]

I'm sayin. We could do some stuff. You know who else is an archer?

In game, I mean

Granted, I think it's a compound bow, but still

I'm not gonna say the players could design them better - mainly because they already take enough work from the creatives on their art team by using AI like a crutch instead of a creative tool and by doing player design contests - but I am saying we do have ideas, and those ideas could translate into better designs or future aesthetics that their paid FunPlus employees might find both challenging and enjoyable.
Much better than feeding prompts to something.

[last hazel]

I can design the statue effects, but I am expensive, FP can't afford me

[vale yoke]

You have standards. I respect that.

[last hazel]

[vale yoke]

I have no art talent lol so let that be what it is

But I've already offered to be a half-price CM repeatedly, so lol

[stable cosmos]

Oh i know aries is The Ram. But also we have a hero called ram. I just forget which statue he is

[last hazel]

I guarantee, Ram is Leo

[vale yoke]

Was he Taurus? My phone's on 7% so I can't log in to check

Leo?

Sheesh

I mean, he isn't a lion, he's a tiger, but what was wrong with Basil and Fahad?

[last hazel]

Its not guarantee,it I guess, my auto correct is too fast

[stable cosmos]

Yep, hes leo. So fail on that one

[vale yoke]

Wait. Do we know the game lore and everything better than the devs?

[stable cosmos]

Prime opportunity missed so situation normal

[west fog]

My feedback: Thanks for nothing

[stable cosmos]

The reforge is more of a scam than TA in the first place

[vale yoke]

Honestly? Okay, this is how you can tell I was Corpo, but... There were so many ways they could have had the player community providing them information on themed statues and zodiac characters for free and then just had an intern fact check it also for free.

The reforge will get you so bad

[west fog]

At least I'm smart enough to not spend anything on it.

[vale yoke]

I had to ask Mufasa if something was even worth reforging because otherwise... Bleh.

[stable cosmos]

I never spend anyway, this game does not make spending worth my while. If i spend $100 it better be for the equivalent of something that is good until the servers go down. Not something being outdated in 3 months

[vale yoke]

I'm not mad at my own previous spending because it was all decor that now has added value.

Thanks, Past Liannin

You're a real one

I definitely got my $250

[stable cosmos]

I could think that but given they've also been taking items away and then handing them out free in a new power boosting format i dislike it more. Might take something and not return it.

Or more annoyinly if you paid for it prior and then they have it "level up" and you gotta pay more to do that

[graceful drum]

Oh no, that must've been really painful😢
Unfortunately, the reforge feature is based on RNG, and if your luck is bad you may end up with worse stats.
Would you like to submit feedback about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting? I can help you with that if you'd like

[stable cosmos]

Its based on funplus rng which more or less means there is a 99.9 chance of it getting worse and an 0.1% chance of it being the same or improving. Mostly though its gonna screw you

[west fog]

It's not so much that there's a worse stat, but that there's a worse stat and the exact same stat as before. That should be impossible, because it makes it useless, wasting hard to get items for nothing.
I'd upvote if you'd write something.

And two worse stats should also be impossible of course, but that will stay a dream.

[stable cosmos]

It should really give 2 different stats that are equivalent to your current one but that might be more suitable to the TA type. But they'll never do that one.

Like getting 10% hunter health and you do a reforge and it offers 10% hunter armour or 8% hunter lethality for example. Please note these are made up numbers

[west fog]

Even in this game, you get at least something with all those different game mechanics. This here is the only one I can think of right now where it's possible to get absolutely nothing.
What kind of game designer assumes that this could be enjoyable to players, or even encouraging sales?

[graceful drum]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
I wrote one for you

[stable cosmos]

To make it more palatable to the devs, should provide equal or better results. Not just better they won't do that.

I don't mean the same stat either. I just mean alternatives to current. Like if the stat was orange the replacements must be orange OR red, they cannot be purple

[tame jackal]

Shouldn't this have been recycled for pearls?

[tardy night]

They had a game mechanism where people lost stats on upgrading. And they sold an item to cancel out the negation.

Addicts bought it still. In DROVES.

It made people lose out approx 12k$ worth of upgrades. Addicts proved themselves truly addicted there

[stable anvil]

Store is still up for 2 more days

Need to wait for the store to close for it to recycle

[slate fossil]

Is anyone left? Has everyone gone?

[tiny quiver]

They are hiding from the man in the mirror

[slate fossil]

lol

[tardy night]

I would reframe the feedback

Observation: players have wanted unique elements included in the game for a long time, such as animal motifs of some sort including unicorns and goats whether in the form of statues, march skins, or other cosmetic enhancements of a player's gaming experience.

Consequence: players feel that while the game freely adds unrelated themes and skins, popularly demanded designs remain unavailable, perhaps due to misplaced beliefs regarding their popularity and alignment to the game's central theme.

Suggested solution:
Further improve upon the design contests introduced in the anniversary wherein player suggestions regarding designs are considered and suitable implementation within game occurs, not only for stickers, but for larger sets as well, include voting to decide on the best inclusions. The event could occur annually or bi annually.

[slate fossil]

How are you? Glad to see there is no hiding from you.

[rapid phoenix]

Done

[wide cobalt]

What is that?

[stiff ether]

Comes from cleaning up your settlement during the tutorial when you start the game for the first time.

[jovial falcon]

Unpopular or popular opinion, but recycling items in events that keep returning should be stopped. Only if an event ends and not returning should items be automatically recycled. I know in events it states that items will be recycled but you have so many events and mini events running simultaneously and constantly that it’s very easy for anyone to forget about an event end and lose alot of saved up items.

[molten wedge]

Please submit the above ++ ty

[forest kiln]

There were numerous feedbacks about Blissful bags for example, nothing changed... for F2P event does not have any use since the beginning, not counting that 6 keys which we can hoard during 2 sessions to get cheapest bag

[rocky otter]

They keep giving 3 keys and recycling it

Nothing change in this game

[tame oxide]

Don't claim the rewards and they send them at the end of event so next time you have 6 keys and at least get a prize

[forest kiln]

You can get 6, if during 1st session you do not claim 3 keys from pass and it's dropped in your rewards center... next session you get another 3. But anyway, during anniversary than they gave 2 keys in daily login... it showed how much they dont give a 💩 in what they doing

[thorny plume]

When it comes to the red gems in operation festival they want to limit the amount we get and can save up so they can sell classic Sentinel

Etc

That one even I understand, but for every other event I agree

[jovial falcon]

I bring this up because one of my alliance members lost 550 restoration chips. Yes it does say they are recycled, but like I said, with the sheer amount of events running and also state merge being sorted out, it’s very easy to forget time based things within the game. 550 chips lost is absolutely horrendous, but not as horrendous as the 550 skin vouchers given in exchange. 550 chips is a ton of pearls, Gems, HQ skins, statues, and all the other bits and bobs that come with using them. Something like that should be compensated

[thorny plume]

Yes no that i agree on is a bad recycle value

Terrible recycle value

[jovial falcon]

And it’s not just that player, this incident can be echoed throughout the whole of this game. I’m 100% certain that many players have fell into this trap and lost equal or more, not just in chips but from other events too and like I said, these events return regularly so should at the very least carry forward like they do on other items in a few events. Regardless to whether someone has bought or earned them, they have a right to be able to spend them as they please and in their own time.

[slate fossil]

I can write this feedback if you'd like-??

[wide wraith]

with reoccurring events why not recycle anything needed at the end of a season and give us a break between seasons

[slate fossil]

here is Feedback link-#📋︱feedback-reporting message Let me know if it's to your approval

[jovial falcon]

I kinda want more than just feedback being given to devs in all honesty. I know feedback is the best I can get but I also know feedback, especially on this topic won’t be replied to by the devs. I just think it’s a 💩 deal for the players, especially f2p players who get screwed over enough by the devs.

[rocky otter]

I should claim from reward center or wait for another event to claim?

[slate fossil]

I wish there were a better line of communication....

[jovial falcon]

Yes that’s fine but I would also like to include about the reason players forget is the sheer amount of events they run at the same time but with different end days which contribute to people confusing event end times giving more rise to these traps of losing everything earned

Also I apologise if I sounded pushy, I just got a bit upset when I saw his ss of what was lost as I’ve fallen for that same trap in the past and know how it feels as I’m sure everyone in the game has at some point.

And also that event was scheduled to run for another 2 days

Today and tomorrow

[slate fossil]

No apologies necessary,
the last part of your feedback above, has been reported (about the number of events running concurrently), if you have time to scroll up in the reportig channel you can upvote the report.

I can find links to the reports if you'd rather not be bothered with the search

[jovial falcon]

No it’s fine I’ll search for it

[slate fossil]

awesome- and to add- I myself am disgusted when I see more skin tickets given when I have forgotten to buy stuff with my 777 slot coins!!! I had over 3k recycled last go around!!

[jovial falcon]

It’s just extra annoying with this because it was still to run for another 2 days. I’ve been told there was a message on here from devs about it being cut short but a lot of players don’t have discord

[slate fossil]

#⭐︱game_information message Apparently, there was also an in-game mail with the information

[jovial falcon]

I don’t know anyone who reads the ingame mail to be honest, most people just click the read and claim all button

[slate fossil]

true- I know I couldn't tell you what most of my compensation mail ever even said or what was being compensated.....

But, sadly, this is an "Us" issue.

[jovial falcon]

Yes definitely an “us” issue but still doesn’t ease the loss people have in this game. They knew before they ran the event that they was cutting it short anyway due to state merge so they should have adjusted the timer before running it. Either way, there is fault on both parties but I do still think the practise of recycling should end unless an event is not returning.

[slate fossil]

totally agreed, on that

It's late for me....have a good night!

[jovial falcon]

Same same and thank you

[jovial falcon]

This is what I mean. It’s too much to lose and the skin tickets are an insult

[pallid willow]

This happened to me today in my alt account 🥲 i didn't realize it was last day, cause of their stupidity of reducing the days mid event

For me was 450 chips

[tight jetty]

I bought a bundle 10 seconds before the countdown😵😟

[jovial falcon]

450 is still a lot. Its a massive amount considering what you could have got with those 450 chips

[north igloo]

merge today then transfer sched tomorrow. wtf sos

[jovial falcon]

Spare a thought for 492 who get a merge today but the people in 492 are all transferring tomorrow leaving the state that are arriving in the exact same situation they was in yesterday 🤣

[north igloo]

might just be the case for us. 429 merging with 314 but majority will transfer tomorrow.

[jovial falcon]

I’ve always said they should either make transfer a 6 month cycle instead of 3 or merge 3 states instead of 2 to ease the loss of anyone who transfers because a lot of dead states are still going to be dead states after they merge today.

[storm solstice]

Active recruiting and you get also people in.

[solid rivet]

did they already break the game?

[jolly harness]

They did a few years ago

[tame harbor]

Dear developers, when will you make it possible to upgrade blue and light blue heroes, you constantly add gold ones, but for blue and light blue ones you have completely forgotten?

🤔

[pseudo mist]

Since we talked in the SoS discussion channel -
Ruslan's feedback: #📋︱feedback-reporting message
If anyone else is interested in this.

[pseudo mist]

Reported.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[forest kiln]

You claim from reward center and wait for another event. It works only with 6 keys (3 + 3), you cant collect more, unfortunately

[rocky otter]

Okey thank you. I will do next time. I collected keys in this round

[sick ledge]

Hi here someone know how i can remove the decoration i put in the mansion???

[stone sleet]

Any MOD?
After our state merge, we lost the governor after our Wining SvS. Now it wont be fair in Soft against state who still have buff and we dont

[west fog]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
How did a 'remove those banners' feedback become a 'reduce the number' issue?

Could be what we call 'monkey mail' in German.

[wide wraith]

when all the AC buffs open up it will help

[rapid phoenix]

Hello, click on your decorations mini icon on the mansion then click on the decoration itself and then a hide button will appear

[rapid phoenix]

Hello, that's normal after the merge everything will be reseted governor, buffs etc.... and now you'll have a week break for the merge and transfer and then the migo will open (no official information yet but that's just based on my experience) and after that in a week I believe you'd get the SOTF so until then I think you'd have a governor already.

That's what happened to me last merge so yeah 🤷

[tiny kraken]

Not sure if it was mention before but why not allow players to just transfer instead of having to buy tickets. Open it up to all.

[whole quest]

I think if it's too easy to transfer, some states might end up with no players.

[stone sleet]

We are in a Old state. No Alliance Center 😁

[stone sleet]

Its sad, we have no capitol before 2 weeks, and our soft we wont have any buff

[cloud ridge]

Banners shouldn't even be a thing, no one cares about tempest, enigma crates etc

[rapid phoenix]

If anything probably the SOTF would be minimum after 2 weeks 🤷 so you'd already have a governor....

[west fog]

Yeah well, I thought I'd start small. It seems to work better here if you split your actual goal into multiple steps.

[cloud ridge]

Baby steps is too much for them

[visual frigate]

foetus steps?

[west fog]

But as you can see, they reduced a small step even further.

[tardy night]

You're asking them to cut the cold calls to spend on this crap

Won't happen easily.

Meanwhile one of f+ franchises put the horns under maintenance as soon as players started using them to unionise with the horns.

[vale yoke]

Big ups to MC!

[tardy night]

When we did it they simply censored the words strike and protest

[vale yoke]

Never been so proud of players than to hear they got the horns shut down because they were mobilizing

You should see what's censored in this EA title from them lol

Server is censored

Discord, censored

DC, censored

Support, censored

Devs, censored

[tardy night]

Long as packs aren't

[vale yoke]

And obvs the usual

Nope, packs arent

[tardy night]

Taiwan?

[vale yoke]

Yup

Tested that first

Pooh works, or did when I tested it

[tardy night]

Swiss company

[vale yoke]

"Swiss" company

Right now, Cerb and I are dealing with players who think these games have rules outside of the ToS

🤣

"the RULES of the game are the limitations of what's coded."

Funniest thing I've read today

They even still think there's RNG

[tardy night]

Rules of the game? 👀

[wind turret]

What is the last generation of heros? Or does sos continually keep on creating stronger and stronger heros, equipment (planes, vehicles, and arms) and animals?

[tardy night]

The latter.

[unreal lichen]

They will keep release new hero. This should be something they need to address for. There are wat too many heros.

[tardy night]

The issue is when you consider it an investment. It isn't. It's an unregulated casino designed to leech money from addicts.

They pride themselves on the fact.

Any decent 100$ console or pc title will offer similar or better entertainment. This system thrives because addicts aren't doing anything about their addiction to the escapism offered by the unregulated casino.

When they were sued over their business practices, the legalese and loopholes they cited should be mandatory reading for every person spending 1 single dollar in the game.

But the addicts won't care.

People would rather waste their time cutting down other players by fighting over who is lead state forgetting that not a single one of them would remember a "lead" 2 years past the casino shutting down.

Half of them couldn't name a lead who won the first RL lol

[forest kiln]

I remember SOS was telling that AC are exist to balance old states with new states in stats. What for AC exist now ? Just make alliances more busy than necessary during merger? 🤣

[patent olive]

Really insane stats

[tardy night]

Consider that they're not represented like SoS where troop + individual stats are summed up. There, the two exist separately.

In the SoS fashion the stats there are 2.6 mil% approx(far from maxed)

[worn pewter]

This is why people need to just stop spending

Best thing I have ever done

The only thing you can show the company is less money. Nothing else will work.

[charred swift]

This company is so dishonest. Makes it look like the bundle gives you 45 frags for the money when you actually only get 30, as you get 15 of them for free anyway. Then they use the claim all button to try to hide and mislead how many free frags you get

[thorny latch]

Hi BigBob This is the total of fragments you will receive. I'm sorry if that was misleading

[charred swift]

It’s completely misleading and I don’t think it’s your fault so no need for you to apologise. Pretty sure it was done intentionally to get our money. 3500% reduction on the bundle and a 33% reduction in hero frags.

[stable cosmos]

They won't change that habit short of people cutting spend or losing a court case

[silent pike]

@signal dove I tried sending you a dm regarding your feedback report https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606/1295523435560173641, but you have your dm's closed, could you send me a dm?

[split crane]

How many pearls will we get for recycling crimson gems?

[thorny latch]

Hello 😊 1 gem - 70 pearls

[tidal apex]

Is it possible for you to actually get to lvl 22 in there? Look at my tasks in hero preorder... I can only get one pass level per day, only those 2 tasks 🤣

Oh wait I am wrong, they changed something

Todays tasks give more points

So will make 2 levels :p

Yesterday I barely progressed one

[torpid gazelle]

I wasn’t paying attention to that daily task event tied to the new behemoth. Was it only like a two day event? It’s not in my event billboard anymore.

[unreal lichen]

I think there will be more task later on.

[still tapir]

Yes it is or at least I’ve gotten it with both my accounts

[crystal cradle]

Somehow this skin tickets looks way better than those 5 minutes speed ups and 10 pearls 😂

[grim rock]

How? There are 22 levels and we can only complete 2 a day. It lasts 7 days. Math doesn’t add up unless they start giving 4 tasks later on.

[tardy night]

It's the same every time, last few days they give more points

[wide wraith]

same state in Apex Arena for the 3rd straight time, Devs need to sort matching out or scrap the event

[digital glacier]

Yeah, but after 3+ years, those a have over compensated the young states age with buffs and it's hard to compete with training troops, that's for sure.

[wide wraith]

maybe if a CM can be bothered, they can explain what use Apex Arena is? After all rewards are worthless, doesnt use full stats, so it tells a player nothing... What use is it as an event??????

its not even fun

[cloud ridge]

I like easy passive rewards

Easy event to do, no fun yeah but it's just free stuff for minimal effort

[wide wraith]

but its rigged like all events are, same state 3 times in a row, same results

the Devs are more interested in playing a certain racing game with plumbers, mushrooms and banana skins

This discord is dead after all the <@&555639728632758272> have either quit, been moved on, fired, or are just too lazy to type in here. The Devs ignore feedback from here, so <@&628563208164081690> what is the point now of this discord and its ott rules

[ruby delta]

it’s not like ur spending upgrades on apex

its a free frame with amplification stats

[wide wraith]

which lasts 7 days

[ruby delta]

yes

and u will get another

like u said

“same states same rankings”

[wide wraith]

and will be given to the same people every time

[ruby delta]

not if u push over sotf

[wide wraith]

no even if you do, nothing changes

[ruby delta]

it does

u just haven’t grown enough

[wide wraith]

well i have more important things like real life to spend money on not a dumb se*ist game

[ruby delta]

then why waste time coming here to complain?

surely have better things to be doing with ur time

[wide wraith]

hoping that a CM will get a lapse and actually say something, especially if their handle contains SOS in it

[mossy cairn]

true i understand your frustration ,but to change your postion in Apex you have to increase your power on different stats ,its mostly the same players because the base powers are increasing the same in the states , but maybe after the mergers and tranfers you will see new players on the listing depending on where you fall

[wide wraith]

we didnt have a dumb merge thankfully, and 45 tickets to transfer is way too much,

all because the Devs are too lazy to shake things up or they dont know how to do it

[fathom otter]

just ignore it ffs much more important things to complain about. I guess it annoys you cos you’re losing all the time?

[wide wraith]

in the top 20 every time, its boring and this is feedback, whiach is what this channel is supposed to be for

[buoyant veldt]

🍿

[wide wraith]

but its not for feedback, its for suggestions that only end up in the recycle bin

[mossy cairn]

have you tried to go to a trailing state the tickets might be lowered . on Apex its best to check on the player you wana attack .and you can resist to participate

[wide wraith]

proper feedback is all about obsevations, not doing the Devs job for then and coming up with solutions, thats what they are paid for

[fathom otter]

because most people dont care about it so of course itll go nowhere 🤷‍♀️

[wide wraith]

and when they do come here they are mocked, by people who dont care, and certain Mods

why should i be the one to move states, the Devs created the event for some ungodly reason, its getting as bad as KoH, that Desert Thing or POW

[wide wraith]

so the answer from a Mod is for me to move states to fix the Devs incompetence

guess you earnt your free stuff this month for suggesting that

[mossy cairn]

no am not saying move state , you said to move its a lot of tickets am only sugesting to try to move to a trailing state if you wana transfer

[wide wraith]

this isnt feedback about transfering its about a dumb event that the Devs added for no real reason, it doesnt earn he company anything, tells the players nothing, rewards are junk, so whats the point of it , because its not fun,

[mossy cairn]

I am in the same situation as a player in Apex the are only a few positions i can move as the stats calculation its hard to beat players

[wide wraith]

my stats are higher though so it makes no sense

but to have the same state 3 times in a row makes even less sense, if they were that close to my state we would have them in SVS or at least in SotF

[mossy cairn]

understadable ,all the feedback is sent through ,a responce on the issue will come through and if more players are upvoting on this issue we will get a resolutiontoApex

[wide wraith]

thats not true and you know it, they either ignore feedback or just pick certain words

so its not a proper feedback channel its a popularity thing, except when it doesnt agree with what they have decided, (Roses come to mind) feedback was totally ignored

requests to slow down, totally ignored

[ruby delta]

it’s not about popularity at all, it’s about if ur idea is the same idea as a lot of others have had

[wide wraith]

requests to close the gap betwwen spenders are f2p, totally ignored

[ruby delta]

if nobody else thinks the same as u for an event ur not gonna get upvotes

[wide wraith]

but even when they are the same its ignored by the Devs

they prefer to look at their "bot" polls and think that is how people feel,

[dim marlin]

Hmmm but still there is no problem in making feedback i would say

[wide wraith]

with zero CMs to take it to the Devs and fight for the community

[dim marlin]

As feedback is a way of expressing ourselves

[wide wraith]

then we shouldnt have to suggest a solution to the feedback

[dim marlin]

Well but it does not stop any one from making one. As drop when joint together becomes a river. If a drop thinks he is nothing he definitely will go down the earth as a absorbs drop so lets be the first drop i feel

[dim marlin]

Well we can. If you like, and if you like i can help you in making a feed back

Would You mind if i DM you shadow

[wide wraith]

Switch up states in Apex Arena, explain exactly how the battle engine works or remove the event as it adds nothing to the game

[dim marlin]

But why can we not make a suggestion and feed back on both the issues seperately

Both issues can be tried, maybe one of them at least gets addressed

[wide wraith]

exactly that, they are seperate things

[wraith vapor]

Anyone know how to change survival guide without migo builidng?
I removed it and can't build it anymore as it's not in the military section.

[wide wraith]

feedback is one thing, possible solutions/suggestions are different

[wide wraith]

it only applies during Migo

[wraith vapor]

Survival guide works throughout, was working during SVS

[dim marlin]

Well in feedback we make three things like, Observations, consequences and Suggested solutions

[wide wraith]

no it changes as soon as migo ends

[wraith vapor]

I used it two days ago, removed migo building yesterday without switching

[wide wraith]

after the store closed

[dim marlin]

Would you mind if i DM you and so we can discuss our feedback these too when they are completed

[wide wraith]

I trust you, need to go back to work

[dim marlin]

Take care shadow

[wide wraith]

thanks

[dim marlin]

U r always welcome

[normal peak]

Bring Migo building back out

New Migo starts next week anyway doesn’t it

Leave it out until next building comes out

[forest kiln]

Just saw too... where is all our MIGO buildings dissapeared, actually? Because it's definetly wasnt like this before

[wraith vapor]

Well, they are not available in the build section. Hence the question

[tepid rivet]

🫡

[forest kiln]

Yes, in this case what about survival guild ... I would understand if between seasons skills and stats of Survival Guild didnt work... but it worked last week during SvS

[soft gulch]

Azur at 15 UTC....the enter button didnt appear

does it happen often?

[normal peak]

They used to be

[dim marlin]

King apparently it seems like the building cant be rebuilt and so there appears to be no other way currently. But maybe we can make a bug report of the problem you are facing right now if you could make one bug ticket in your game i can help you make a bug report on this server

[normal peak]

Used to be able to build the old Migo bases. Good thing I did t delete mine then

[still tapir]

It should be in the battle or war tab in the building button

Nope I’m wrong could have sworn old ones were in the in military tab.

[thorny plume]

Theese ressourse crates are a joke tbh

Most of us dont need them. Most of us havent touched the backpacks in 3 years +

Theres plenty of ways to seed ressourses, no need to use it as a filling in a end season lotto event

Better todo a "sorry, no win"

[west fog]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
Hello @flint osprey, sorry for pinging you, but I think you might be interested in this. The top 200 players limit is per state, not for all participating states in your apex state group. So depending on how many states are in your apex state group, you'll get a multiple of top 200 players.
It seems to be 4 states and thus 800 players total most of the time.
The rewards are then for all participating players in that state group.

[flint osprey]

Hi @west fog, our grouping only consists of two states:

It’s okay, it’s no big deal. Usually active players make top 200 solo in their state without any issues, but I’m a returning player after being gone for 4 months.

[unreal lichen]

Don't worry, you have nothing to lose, the reward sucks.

[stable cosmos]

Apex is just there for ego stroking. Or if you have a friend to cooperate with, march and TA testing

Sorta. It seems to also have some weird rebalance thing going on that might put those results out of whack

[wide wraith]

its funny though, ask for the states you play against to be changed or the event to be removed and even though a Mod said they would post it as feedback, nothing is done, makes a mockery of this entire dumb system of popularity opps i mean feedback

[stable cosmos]

When did that feedback go out? Not that i think they'll change it but it doesn't sound like something they'd lose money on so it has a shot.

Any changes have a 3 week lead time with this lot, so if its been more than 3 with no change it ain't happening

[wide wraith]

we have had the same state 3 times running, it looks like the event was set up to give whales some free stuff, that they dont need anyway

[pallid willow]

Is the lack of demons 6 change or bug?

[stable cosmos]

The dreadbeasts? They turned them off outside last migo as well

[wide wraith]

they always are turned off after migo, like the little digs are

[pallid willow]

Demons level 6

[cloud ridge]

Fiends

[pallid willow]

Isn't it the same tho lol

Fiend means demon

[cloud ridge]

There's been some instances of them spawning less, but don't think bug, just us pew pewing then more cause no dreads

[pallid willow]

But, now there's times when we dont have demon 6 for like 15mins and nobody went on kill streak like with infected day or something

So i wonder why

[cloud ridge]

Other alliances I assume

Only real time we have lots of spare stam is outside migo

[forest kiln]

From guys in tutu to some fakies in adds?

[stable cosmos]

Until advertising standards start gaining some teeth they'll lie in their ads quite happily

[median pond]

Can anyone help .how to find your state #975 home page

[wide wraith]

if you mean on Discord, ask in your state chat for the link

[dim marlin]

Unfortunately Aku this is official SOS game server all states do make there own server it would be best if you ask your own alliance or state member i hope they can share you the state discord of the state link you mentioned

[wide wraith]

laughs you mean supposed official SOS game server, one with no active managers, no actual contact with the Devs in any way

how can this server be official when it has NO suppport from the company

[dim marlin]

Well we are active here you are active and i am active we all are active.

[wide wraith]

but to be the official server someone paid by the company should also be active

not a server which is ran by unpaid volunteers

[dim marlin]

The official server is created for the help and support of the Players. And it is not a paid server. and this server does not enforce any one to join it. This is created to have an easy access to the information and support of the players/people so they can enjoy the game and can have a better information and help

[wide wraith]

my alliance server does the same making it just as official if not more so

[dim marlin]

Well that is for just one alliance and state for just one state. This official server is for all states and all alliances

[wide wraith]

but it doesnt give up to date information, just copies what is inside the game

[dim marlin]

You can guide me which information is recent you need. Maybe I can try to fetch it for you

[wide wraith]

it has a feedback system that is out of date as soon as its written

[dim marlin]

Well if You allow me i can help you make a feed back

[wide wraith]

thats IF a mod who says they will write some for you actually bothers to do it

[dim marlin]

Nope you let me know i will not let you feel it

I will make you as many feedback as you like

You can guide me so we can make good feedback together.

[wide wraith]

take yesterday, I asked for feedback to be raised about Apex Arena, being matched with the same state 3 times running shows nothing, the same ultra whales or disguised Devs at the top, unless matched to different states or state, what is the point of it, mix us the matching or remove it, preferably the latter

i then had to work and left it to a mod to post for me but it wasnt

[dim marlin]

Well dont worry

I can make one

[wide wraith]

like you were going to yesterday you mean???

[dim marlin]

Would you mind if i DM you so we can make a good feedback one its prepared i will share it with you so you can correct me about any wordings or any changes required

Nope i mean lets make a feed back now

[dim marlin]

Can i DM you

[wide wraith]

i guess but still not happy about yesterday, when i left it in your hands to create a feedback for me when i had to go to work

[dim marlin]

Well but it was never mentioned to me to make a feedback. but if it was i would love to resolve your grevience

It was just a misunderstanding I feel between us

Ok let me make one and share it in Your dm

[wide wraith]

ok

[dim marlin]

Shared the feedback in your DM for review

[stark current]

Why can’t we recycle Dino frags anymore?

[hidden stream]

Hello. Do you mean an exchange for Behemoth Companion fragments? This feature is now available in the Behemoth Institute building

[stark current]

Ah good good, I was about to rage thanks

[west fog]

Ok, that means then that they didn't implement the number of ranking rewards places based on actual number of participants. I'm not surprised 😸

[tidal oxide]

So we get “Nexus» update we need to pick two out of three times?
12-14-16 utc?
11pm-1am-3am really? Five nights a week we are expected to be up then go to work? This is discrimination against the bottom half of the world!
All useless for Asians/Australians/New Zealanders?
So the whole Migo event is useless for us?
We may as well go play another game?
We play for events not to spend.

[weak ingot]

What happened with effortless progress?

[calm meteor]

I believe it's 12/14/18 but I get your point.
It's not useless for Asians... but I totally agree with your point. Many people will have difficulty making Nexus.

How about you submit a feedback regarding times in #📋︱feedback-reporting. There is still time before Nexus makes it way to the live game so we can hope for a change.

[calm meteor]

What happened? 👀

[weak ingot]

Spot the difference

[calm meteor]

What state are you from?

[weak ingot]

200s

Don’t remember the exact state

[calm meteor]

You don't remember your state? 👀

[weak ingot]

State 244

[calm meteor]

Well give me a minute, let me check mine. It was normal this morning

[weak ingot]

I had to go and check, being lazy is a virtue in this game and state number ranks so low on the things that matter in this game

[calm meteor]

Aha, mine is gone as well. I am not sure if it's a bug but let me try to ask.

[nimble wadi]

Splender effects ranking has not been updated after the merger. In ss there is me from deleted state (25k score) and the ranking of current state

[tardy night]

Live or ptr?

[last hazel]

It will take a few days

[nimble wadi]

Thank you!

[still tapir]

251 is having the same issue

[cloud ridge]

Give me your spare dino frags instead

[cloud ridge]

This has happened a few times, in 688 either airplane or heli disappeared for a while, might have been heli

But your case much worse

[vale yoke]

Also in 180 like that too

[fallow lodge]

yeah what the hell is this devs i been using on monkey now i cant

is there one thing in this game thats not broken....wait i know this one..PACKS

[silent pike]

I have seen alot of complaints here, i would suggest sending in a ticket to CS for this issue.
In addition to that i found a bugreport regarding your issue so you can upvote it https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1229859341054775326/1296157039814377524

[fallow lodge]

i upvoted but taking to the ai in game is like talking to a duck. got not time for quack quack answers

i didnt learn duck at school

[stable cosmos]

On the bonus side of those time picks, i can utterly ignore the trash that is nexus. If that was all they did to "optimise" it it'll continue to suck

[tepid rivet]

Excited about our future MIGO marriage?

[vale yoke]

I AM!!

[tepid rivet]

[digital glacier]

MK1 = MK0
MK2 = MK0
MK1 = MK3
MK2 = MK3
(same for serum and Biobatteries)
MK0/3 can't be changed to MK1/2
MK0 cant be changed to MK3, vice versa

So dumb
Just give us a conversion store to convert all materials to a universal item and let players upgrade whatever they want however they want.

Also, would be nice if I could reset my Behemoths.

[stable cosmos]

I had quite liked the lack of events after merge but they really kicked up the pay to play ones

[tidal apex]

My effortless progress event seems kinda lacking

Only 2 choices 🤣

Maxed on both because those are things that you can actually do

[jolly harness]

it's reported

[west fog]

You can upvote there -> #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot message

[marble grove]

Was gonna say same... lol

[bright crypt]

Did you upvote here ?

#🐞︱bug-reporting-bot message 😀

[fluid solstice]

Most of the USA is at work all of those times. So work from home jobs can participate, but those of us who GO to work and can only do events after 5pm local time…. Sorry

[tidal oxide]

Yes it’s not good times at all?
Why don’t they listen it’s the SSDD

They shd do
Australasian time eg 5utc

Euro times 14 utc

American times 18 utc?

[stable cosmos]

Nz right now those times are 1am 3am and 7am. 7am is almost doable but it only works if you wake up early and also work from home.

[tardy night]

If you guys are basing this off ptr, timings will probably change for main.

[stable cosmos]

I'm curious about how the rest of the event has changed tbh. Cos the prior one sucked. So many issues that made for bad or boring gameplay

[faint flint]

Looking at the hero preview task for the new heroes generation 13 are not going to be limitless Maddie, lucky and Nikolai any more?

[unreal lichen]

I think gen 13 will be skiped. Maybe not only 13 but also 14 at least.

[faint flint]

The event we have has the raccoon hero. Not sure what generation he is from. It’s in the preview event.

[tardy night]

Search "gen skip" in this server

Then decide how deep a pit you're in

[unreal lichen]

OMG, raccoon is the newest gen 20 hero

[faint flint]

We are on generation 12😖

hero pre order event is stacy, xiaowen and Boomtail.

[digital glacier]

EP IS FIXED

[unreal lichen]

It looks like that your state will skip gen 13~19.

[wide wraith]

no apology though for the mistake lst night when they changed it

how many people lost out due to the Devs incompetence

[digital glacier]

Hope you been playing labyrinth for those extra platinum tokens 😆

Skipping from 12 to 20 is no worse than those who skipped from 12 to 15 or 16 tbh.
Im not sure the last time I seen anyone use gen 13 or 14 in my state, or even in svs

[faint flint]

It’s a big disadvantage if we are expected to fight states with generation 19 heroes with our generation 12

[digital glacier]

Honestly. It's less painful since now the store has heroes from gen 13 to - 2 gens from your current gen. So you can snag a few each week to level up.

[wide wraith]

wow one of those coin things so 2 rss packs not good enough compensation

[faint flint]

Only if you spend 100s of dollars a week on them. They are getting more greedy every week

It’s only because older states are losing too many players because of dev rip off tactics they have to accelerate newer states to the same generation to fight them

[wide wraith]

seriously, this is not good enough compensation

[tardy night]

Expect 6 months of straight losses, with a few occasional wins, work hard on power play. Expect RLs to desert the teams if not the states altogether. And choose & stick to 2 marches. Biocaps are gonna be your friend, scrape every single one you can.

[faint flint]

Yep. There idea to fix the gap is to make it harder for newer servers who then quit game. Very well done FailPlus

[tardy night]

They're not fixing any gaps. They are offering new bait to older wallets. Older wallets will assure you it's all okay. Laugh at them and then decide what you wanna do.

[faint flint]

I was being sarcastic

So my server 924 can be matched with server 300ish next svs. Great news

[wide wraith]

it nothing to do with any gap, its just because thet didnt know how to fix matching properly so they want to lump everyone in the same pool

[tardy night]

Nah, 3 months of forced "protection" i.e spend or die

[digital glacier]

I never said it wasn't painful. But gen 12 jumping into a gen 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 or 19
Lol you dead.
Gen 12 jumping into gen 20, no difference. You dead.
First 3 months gonna really really suck. You just have to grind it out for a bit.
Next 3 months won't be so bad cause then you'll have 2 good marches.
And 3 months after that, you'll be right back up to where everyone else is.
If you actually try hard as f2p you could have 3 sets of heroes almost maxed stats purple brain completed by the end of the 6 months.
There's also not much pvp really..... What, ah 🤣 svs, uh, you really think your state is gonna match with gen 20 state 🤷 I mean, it could, but it's less likely to happen.
Also, rr, you're missing gen 13 - 19 heroes, so you have a hugely significant chance at matching with also others who gen skip. Maybe they gen skipped only to 19,which gonna suck none the less, but that means they only really have 1 good march 🤣 their gen 12 be on their wall with your gen 12 to fight them. (you're alliance will just have to adapt their registration purposes to avoid this as much as possible)
KOH. That's already predetermined who you're going to fight based on your current standings within your tier. It's honestly not going to change much. The ranks are so skewed and messed up anyhow. Especially with merges and such that just happened. Lol. Don't expect a fair fight in koh even if you didnt gen skip.

Nexus will definitely suck regardless. It was a 💩 matching system last time. It'll be the same way again. I'm willing to bet money on it, high seed low seed matching system
Day 1 you're going to have at least a 70% chance at a correct guess for who wins the event even before the first battle takes place (30% chance your backup guess will be the winner) 🤣

[faint flint]

They should give us missed heroes boosted to a certain level. So we all have similar generations.

[tardy night]

mufasa still pretending about this when most gen skip states emptying out within the 6 month period of "catching up". Interesting

[wide wraith]

good luck with that, the Devs have NO IDEA, even after 3 migos since 759 had the gen skip its still impossible to catch up

[digital glacier]

Just because they empty out because they quit because they're discouraged to play skipping 5 or 6 or 7 generations has nothing to do with the actual fact, you can survive it and catch back up. It just takes a little bit more effort and smart game play, that's all.

[tardy night]

Get out of paper based theories and live in reality some day.

[digital glacier]

Lol.

[tardy night]

But I am expecting someone providing feedback about apex and costs of catching up at gen 7-12 to understand. Gonna be a hard one. We gonna get you there some day mufasa .

[faint flint]

People won’t wait 2 months if constantly bombed out. SoS don’t believe in fair matching. Never have never will

Will just be a lot more dead states. They will be doing state merges after every 2 Migos

[digital glacier]

Paper based theory, lucky card bio + rays + lose rr + hero challenges + Colosseum + migo store + vouchers + blah blah blah 100% free to play, that alone in a 3 months time span can get you enough potions and if you get a few capsules from the platinum coins store to max stats 2 heroes. And that doesn't really require much of any energy in comparison to actually trying to get heroes 🤣

[tardy night]

This guy was pretending everything was fine before FUNPLUS admitted everything was not fine and added powerplay to help folks a bit.

🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

Castle in the sky~

[digital glacier]

Oh yeah, powerplay too. More free potions to help 🤣

I mean, rays place makeover is designed more for gen skip states than anything else. Just sayin

I never said everything was fine 🤷

[faint flint]

Rays has been changed to screw you on latest generation heroes.

[digital glacier]

So, it'll screw everyone. Gen skip or not. 🤪

Hence. When gen skip does rays, they can focus more on 1 hero at a time.
Hope you studied which ones are better to get. That's all I gotta say.

[ruby delta]

atleast with gen skip u can just pick the heros u want to work with instead of waiting gen after gen for heros u know u can keep

[faint flint]

But theory is we will fight people with better generations so will never catch up on the second march

Events are not just played with 1 march

So we with lower heroes are screwed. And always will

[lucid yew]

Wow, so the new states skip even more gens now. They sure are rushing everyone to the big event pool to be cannon fodders. Can't but feel very sorry for the new gen skippers

[tardy night]

Peeps with the budget to keep up with the forced push are perfectly fine. Never was gonna be a factor there. At worst they opt out and join older states(which most did)

[digital glacier]

Gen skip have many many months of knowledge at their disposal for...... Is "so and so" from gen 17 a good hero 🤷🤣

Non gen skip states don't have that luxury. We could go all out for a hero that's trash. Kind of like how useless marcos was without maddie 🤷 or Robert without Evelyn 🤣

[tardy night]

We going back to Laura again

[digital glacier]

Yes. I understand that. Apparently you didn't read the long text I sent. #📋︱feedback-discussion message

[wide wraith]

we had this exact argument when we had our gen skip to 17, before the heroes were in the platinum store, only to be told that we only needed 1 march from a CM who never played the game, except maybe in ptr where they are given all the potions and frags to level up heroes

[digital glacier]

Ok. Let's go back to hank then while we're at it.
Lol.

[ruby delta]

personally i look forward to my main state getting gen skipped, fed up of playing same states in svs

[tardy night]

Yeah sent 100% inf based on knowledge.

[digital glacier]

Og, major changed, significant changed, significant changed, significant limitless change

And many minor insignificant tweaks along the way

[lucid yew]

Like some said, gen skip isnt an issue for those who can afford to push all the rushed features. But all of your f2p and low spenders will be burning always, for months. Less troops, send a march or two out and you're at gen 10-12 stats

[ruby delta]

i know f2p/low spenders with better heros than spenders, just depends what u focus

[lucid yew]

It's cherrypicking and untrue 99% cases

[digital glacier]

Adapt and overcome.

Gen skip is an issue even if you can spend. The difference just is not noticed as long because they can buy out heroes from rays and vouchers several months sooner than f2p. But the first month or few months at least they'll notice it.

[wide wraith]

bubbles become your best friend, states who actively still do KE, if there are any, stop it.

[digital glacier]

Internal state ke?

[wide wraith]

yeah and SVS ke

[digital glacier]

Ummm. Everyone in the state would be gen skip. So, everyone would be on an equal playing field.

Only svs would be a concern if they matched with a lesser gen skip state.

[ruby delta]

i think what he means it lowers everyone’s troop counts so screws the whole state

[wide wraith]

but a sensible state doesnt kill itself

[digital glacier]

More than 5.33m (approx, depending on hospital cap) troops is useless in 95% of the game anyhow 🤣

[faint flint]

It was sent to devs last time they skipped that all missed generations should at the least be given to the effected players with a minimum of being at purple brain level

[lucid yew]

It's problem for younger states, that their power differences between a whale and a f2p become even worse than us old. They are very rushed, and their events don't follow up with the rushed progression

[ruby delta]

eh, i am at 600k troops i’m not too worried for them kill them faster than they train

all i need is my 1 march

[stable cosmos]

They still need to adjust state progression. New states shouldn't even really be seeing purple heroes. Before they hit svs they should be leveling the last 3 generations of limitless instead of purple stuff, then when svs hits forthe first time its on the same timeline as the latest generation. Prizes for everything adjusted accordingly

[faint flint]

How many potions needed to max 1 hero. And you are starting from 0

[wide wraith]

thats been said since they started with the dumb gen skip and you need different potions

[stable cosmos]

Never done the math but the last 3 upgrades on purple are 3600

[faint flint]

We are still using the first potion so next week with new heroes we start with 0 new potions

[lucid yew]

We have been facing old states since they pushed us 600+ into the big event pool and they burned us left and right in every event. Well, we faced 800+ in svs this weekend and the same happened to their state. The younger states are food for the older and there are only the devs to blame

[faint flint]

SoS plans are to sell essence and potions packs at extortionate rates so people can catch up

[stable cosmos]

F2p now is you pick 1 control style and focus that. Ignore the other 2 heroes completely.

[faint flint]

The devs are going to run this game into the ground. Which isn’t far away now.

RIP SoS

[wide wraith]

but its not just heroes, older states have way for troops to in things like RR can just send march after march to cut you down, even if you have better heroes, TA etc

[faint flint]

Because they have been playing for several months longer. Their titans, planes,vehicles will be stronger. Stronger tech trees, better troops, it all adds up.

[wide wraith]

in some cases it will be years longer

[faint flint]

Possibly yes. It’s a gulf already. And ever increasing

But they don’t care if the cash registers keep ringing

[lucid yew]

It would nice to see how much revenue gen skip brings them compared to their state's spending before

[faint flint]

Last year I read somewhere they lost a third of their top 100 players.

Including the top spender in the game

[lucid yew]

I think sos screwing players described your future experience well, but don't expect anything but facing older states and pain for the next couple migos. We had first younger states just now, we faced only a lot of older states for two migos straight. It is painful and demoralizing for everyone

[tardy night]

Look at merge list. Revenue being squeezed isn't the only factor to consider.

When 1250s getting straight to gen 3, they emptying out faster too. Barely a year in & mergers up for them. Sure you might squeeze out 2k more from some morons, the average population will be worse off for it

[lucid yew]

Yeah, it's no wonder so young states already yelling for merges

[tardy night]

And it isn't like that money being used to improve sos. It's all flying off to make a new title. Improve their experience.

[slate fossil]

I sense a feedback here.... However I feel like the convo has been on for a while- I am going to read up & then possibly delete this comment....lol

[stable cosmos]

No feedback that wasn't fought for for months previously. Unless the feedback is to turn off all paid features. Can't see that going anywhere

[slate fossil]

Yeah....I don't see the advancement of that one either...

However, i don't know if you are aware but, feedback can be re-submitted once another Month has passed.
This is how the feedbacks are made to be chosen, because of the "popularity" and upvotes from players.

[stable cosmos]

No i mean it was submitted on the regular for about 6 months after the first gen skip. The only response was more gen skips.

Also.... the popularity of feedback only means it goes into top 10 which are the ones the devs select to respond to. Not reflective of what they actually implement

We have been told everything is submitted and this is born out when dinky feedback is implemented

[slate fossil]

Yes, sadly-this is all true. try as we might...

I don't know "dinky feedback" definition?

[stable cosmos]

Something with a relatively small number of upvotes that doesn't hit top 10. I've had 2 get sub 40 and still get implemented

They were also pretty unimportant. Still happened so to me at least thats proof everything goes through. Although they rarely do the big stuff so balance based feedback feels useless

[slate fossil]

I know the percentage is discouraging, But, I still feel like we can do what we can do- which is statistically better than doing nothing......

[distant gull]

I will make 2 accounts for most stupid separate task

For record

[slate fossil]

I am genuinely sorry that you are unhappy with the game. It is super frustrating, especially when something you are expecting isn't at all what you receive.

[cursive vessel]

If it helps, I managed to get 1 good march during gen skip (2 of the 3 heroes are maxed) and I've started a 2nd march with gen 18/19 and will add the new gen 20 to that one.
It's hard work but you can get one good march, depending how you do it you could potentially get two if you don't max your first like I did

[distant gull]

I hate this separate task 😡

[wide wraith]

I see this has been ignored

[slate fossil]

I am sorry Shadow-, I didn't look that far up into chat-

I can certainly read you full post and submit the report if you'd still like?

[slate fossil]

Do you care to elaborate just a bit, for instance:

• what is your dissatisfaction based on?
• What do you feel has been a result of this dissatisfaction
• and lastly, what would an appropriate compensation, or offer a suggestable solution?

Please note, these are not meant to "sound" condescending, only asking because it will help me to form an articulate report according to where you "are coming from" in relation to your point of view, and therefore be more fitting .

[wide wraith]

they messed up the the effortless progress but how many people suffered because they messed it up

one of those coins would not have made up for anything

players who preset for say behemoth and didnt realise could have used more parts then they thought they would

[slate fossil]

makes total sense. tbh-I agree 1000%, it just isn't fair on any level to change it up without any notice and after players have become accustomed to it being a particular way, since it's introduction.

wait a minute!!!! I am that player you speak of!! I have selected the behemoth task since it's inception!

[wide wraith]

so just imagine you had saved up loads of frags for the behemoth, wasnt consentrating and updated the behemoth yesterday after the change and before it changed back

all the frags you used but didnt need too, and they think one of those coins makes up for that

minimum compensation should be some of each of the original parts they took out, say 50 of each

[slate fossil]

it has been submitted Shadow,

[slate fossil]

Take a look and let me know what or if it requires changing
or editing...

[wide wraith]

thank you looks good

[slate fossil]

You welcome- I am a bit chapped about it now too!...

[pallid willow]

As of now what would be best to invest to see a growth difference in strength? As in which feature?🤔 I ask for a friend

[tardy night]

Index funds

[unreal lichen]

The answer of this question really depends on what current state of your friend.

[pallid willow]

On the 700s

[unreal lichen]

Sorry! I mean personal status. Is he/she a joiner or rally leade? What's the completion of behemoth, airplan, truck, gem, pets, collections and so on...

There are so many items. For personal strength, my suggestion is behemoth > aircraft > gem > truck > pets > tempest arms.

Behemoth got a 50% discount now with effortless progress. So it's a good choice if not max yet.

[jolly harness]

35 with me

[unreal lichen]

Depends on how old your state is.

[jolly harness]

yeah it know, i'm in state 1126 now, but it went from 30 to 35% now, still better then 0%

[woven spire]

anyone rember how much points shards gave in SOF?

[calm meteor]

Which shards? Can you specify?

[woven spire]

Like resonate shards to resonate hero

turtle for example

[calm meteor]

I believe they count as general legendary fragments if I am not wrong.
So 1000 points for one.

#📖︱official_en_content message

You can refer to this chart though perhaps the points are different if you're from a younger state.

[austere spoke]

He is old 🤣

[crude stratus]

Very old

[woven spire]

thanks

[austere spoke]

Yw 😂

[jolly harness]

If I'm not mistaken the resonate hero frags don't count towards points in events.

[woven spire]

They do if convert

as far i remeber

but not worth holding back

only like 100k points for 100

[digital glacier]

💯

WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR DEVS 🤷

For more than 6 months EP worked flawlessly.
I "joked" months ago devs were forgetting how to copy paste code.
Clearly it wasn't such a joke as it is the truth.

[dim marlin]

Well I can understand your desperation, i feel we can make feedback for this if you like i can help you in making a feed back

[west fog]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message
@tidal juniper
It helped me to completely reinstall the game today a second time to get rid of the freezing. Might be your only option.

[tame oxide]

Infinity and beyond 🤣🤣🤣

[cold geode]

Monkey discounts have become 50%, is there any hope for a dino discount to appear?

[thorny latch]

Hello! No such information is available at this time. But let's hope that soon the discount will really appear

[tardy night]

They have specifically said they won't introduce one in the near future for dino

It's in dev feedback somewhere

[vale yoke]

#🎬︱developer_feedback message

There it is

[tardy night]

Funny they consider it new enough to not rush it, but rush new states to meet older states in the same timeline.

Almost like selling more packs is the goal

[tidal apex]

It is totally new

Not like they already released 2 next behemoths 🤣

By now in "normal" game we would already have both behemoths maxed just by earning materials from taking part in events. Not in SoS, I am maybe 60-70% done and last few % are just straight up impossible to do because it still is $$ only material. They never let people catch up, not even a little and all those advantages makes it so that you burn to one hit from gigaspenders.

[stable cosmos]

FOMO is what they do. No problem if spenders spend to get ahead. They max a 3 month thing in 2 weeks no problem. But normally the timeline on that same thing f2p would be 6 months or so. Not 8 years, or never

Spenders will always, always be stronger. Thats fine. They pay money. But f---plus also kowtows to the spenders who spend the most being able to simply squash everything. So we've got this mess

[digital glacier]

I wish I could reset my Behemoths and get back all the materials I used on them.

Wish I could reset a lot of things and get back the materials I used.

It's not about getting points for things I've already earned points on. They could easily make a new biobattery and that's the one that's given to you when resetting. And not list it anywhere in their points earning for events.
(same for serum & fragments, plasma, etc. etc.)

[split crane]

That would be nice, by the way. Maybe such a feature will be introduced at some point?

[thorny latch]

I don't think that can be realised😕

[digital glacier]

Monday, EP for crystals in my state was 30%
Today it is 35%
5% doesn't sound like a lot, but when you use 500, or like someone I know, max the EP limit 🙈 that 5% adds up to be a a several extra upgrades 🙈 simply by waiting 2 days because of a mid week event change 🥴

[thorny latch]

But you could try suggesting https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606

[split crane]

I think so, too, but maybe🥲

[digital glacier]

Been waiting years for them to force 61+ day inactive accounts to state 0.

[tidal apex]

I was so glad I waited with behemoth mk1 upgrades, now it jumped to 50% discount 😄

One of the extremely few good changes

[digital glacier]

My alts Behemoth is only 312 frags short of being the same rank.
But it's also 3485 Biobatteries ahead 😭
Sad, behemoths are a core component in sos nowadays. And my alt might actually be able to beat my main now 🤣

After 3 rounds of EP 🤣 cause that's how much batteries it's got 🙈

[tidal juniper]

I will try that tomorrow...I have repaired the game before but didn't help me to get rid of it...thanks!!

[tidal apex]

I reinstalled mine 3 weeks ago

It did not help...

[west fog]

Yeah, did the same before, but didn't help. Only a clean install seems to help with it.

[tidal juniper]

Pufff...this is bad...0 info about it and 0 hope of them fixing it...

[tidal apex]

I can run CoD mobile no problem for hours if I would want to and everything works but somehow SoS can randomly freeze my whole phone and only turning it off/on helps 🤣

[west fog]

Normally I don't repeat jokes I make, but in this case:
It's not a bug, it's a feature. They're preparing for the next big event:
State of Arctic Survival*
*Frozen zombies included

[tidal juniper]

Wow! That's even worse than my case...I can just close the app and open it again...reseting the phone...thats too much!! Please fun+ fix your f game!!!

[tidal apex]

I legit thought it was my phone issue at first and that it might be time to change it but no. Tried multiple other games, ones that are actually looking nice and are graphic demanding and they all work. Only SoS causing issues

[digital glacier]

8 hours idle time was just to much huh.
Had to make it 6 for that 1 extra login per day huh 😮‍💨

Hey, Mr cranky pants.
Jungle gems is here with a 6 hour idle rewards time limit.
Still have the statues in there too 🤪

[digital glacier]

They still didn't fix the jungle gems bonus level after level 10.
Devs = 💩
Cost 2
Earn idle rewards for level 1-10 not 11. Even though I beat level 10.

[unreal lichen]

reward still same for max idle 6h, it get more harder

[digital glacier]

I know. You missing the point. 🙄

Remove bonus levels.
Beat level 10
Youre on 11
You earn idle rewards for level 11
Level 11 is first level that cost 2 pickaxes.

With bonus levels
Beat level 10
Bonus level
Bonus level cost 2 pickaxes
Earns idle rewards for level 1-10

Other player
Beats level 10
Gets level 11
Earns idle rewards for level 11-20
Player has advantage over the other guy in progression. Progression = rewards = statues & "pinballs" = stats & potentially a skill statue & more rewards in pinball mini game.
Beats level 11
gets bonus level
Bonus level cost 2 pickaxes
This Player is still ahead of the other one

Understand why I said what I said now 🙄

[unreal lichen]

What’s the drop rate on this again?

[bright crypt]

For this one is 12%, I will send one screenshot

[digital glacier]

Nice to know I got it on 5 accounts 100% f2p & 0 on ones that have spent in the past 🤣

Yeah, odds.... Lol.

[unreal lichen]

Yes, also funny it’s the last one I’m missing from the set😂

[tame jackal]

1 hour passed and we didn't even get bios anymore

[wide cobalt]

same

[grim geyser]

Noooo bios are good :(((

[small sigil]

Is there like a toggle switch where I can actually win a game of feeding frenzy for no rewards? Cuz it's hurting my one feeling.

[distant gull]

same thing happen to me

[bright crypt]

I believe this is happening with all players.
We still don’t know if this is a bug, or they changed since now the idle is 6 hours.

[crude garnet]

but the idle time on pinball is also 6 hrs and after 1 hour that gave rewards

[bright crypt]

I understand, but in the pinball are less biocaps if I’m not wrong.
But you can submit one ticket for the help and support if you want
I still don’t have any official information if this is a bug or no 😔

[patent olive]

Its indeed bugs for me

[boreal verge]

i've played probably 1000 games of feeding frenzy. I've only won free to play twice out of all those times. Only people who win are those who buy the bundles

[patent olive]

Idle time should get every hour not 2 hours

[bright crypt]

It’s the same for me. The times that I won, it was because I used the shuffle and remove, both that we can get in bundles 🥲

[bright crypt]

Please submit one ticket in game, after that we can submit one here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1229859341054775326 🤗

[prisma plume]

Jungle gem every 2 hours. So half the rewards now?? Nerf...it more please

[unreal lichen]

2 hour

[patent olive]

Idiot devs

[wraith mauve]

now we can wait 6 hours to get 3x bios instead of 3 hours :D

[small falcon]

Honestly, this is ridiculous. I've never met a group that hates its own players more than f+.

[patent olive]

Report them on bug report!!!!!!

[unreal lichen]

gonna wait another 56min, if reward so bad i will raise in feedback suggestions

[patent olive]

Yes and include bug report this is bug

[unreal lichen]

aye

i will charge you 500 diamond for extra work 😂

[thorn axle]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Please upvote

[patent olive]

Share to all state of survival servers is really good idea 😉

[woeful hemlock]

Anyone got items other than bios after 2 hours?

[unreal lichen]

got bios after 2 hour idle

[woeful hemlock]

Yes other than bios

All my 3 account got only bios

[unreal lichen]

game get harder

[bright crypt]

I got the 2x 🧨

[woeful hemlock]

Normally at least 1 or 2 account will get bomb or rocket

[bright crypt]

But I didn’t get bios

[unreal lichen]

give me firework, i give you 1k bios, nice deal isint?

[woeful hemlock]

Yes agree

[bright crypt]

[tidal apex]

I thought they wpuld extend idle time but keep giving rewards every hour like it was before....

Nope, now we get one reward every 2h 🤣

[woeful hemlock]

Now, they got what they wanted, no more spending in Jungle event, thanks dev

[tidal apex]

Funnily it hits spenders a lot too because lot of ppl were spending to hit lvl 30 or 40 fast and then get next levels with dropped items

[north moss]

Hi everyone! Don't forget to upvote here if you agree about the jungle gems change #📋︱feedback-reporting message

I hope that they will change it back to how it was. It was not broken so I agree that they should not touch it

I see Benny typing! omgg Congratulations for your new state

[unreal lichen]

can i post meme for jungle gems? 😂

[rotund rover]

If the Auto play AI is active in team events it's ruining it. I am getting so many complete suck teams in solo queue this round of POW

[north moss]

Hii Birb!
Yesss of course! In memes and gifs channel

#😹︱best-meme is closed.. or I would have asked you to post it there even

[rotund rover]

lol I'm being stalked. I started missing out on too many events, switched to a team of fellow down underers

[unreal lichen]

gonna keep my meme for now 😂

[north moss]

Bennyy , I have totally skipped the event and I didn't notice. I definitely see your points there. Would you like to submit it in #📋︱feedback-reporting ?

[unreal lichen]

so far i hate play with ai bot, instead attack tower, they camp at small building

[rotund rover]

yeah they go peak stupid when they pile into the node next to start 5-6-7 deep when an enemy big sits there, murdering them repeatedly

[north moss]

Hahaha noo! I just saw you typing
This comment motivates me to transfer as well because I understand this feeling

[unreal lichen]

i like young guard suggestions solution 😂

i prefer lack of sleep instead bad reward

[north moss]

What is sleep now days,right?

[unreal lichen]

yep

[rotund rover]

well I don't know if they're bots or just bad players. That's the first problem I guess, am I completely wasting my time trying to chat and drop markers if theyre all bots?

[north moss]

I upvoted it as well I will make some coffee first and I will show some love in #📋︱feedback-reporting as well ,because it's 5:37 am here

[north moss]

Based on the screenshot, I believe that they are players for many reasons

[sinful nimbus]

I'm sure even ftp players did the efforts to buy bundles in jungle gems and low spenders tried to reach higher levels.
Cutting half of rewards won't gave developers more money, I'm sure the players I've mentioned will lose interest and developers will lose potential spenders

[north moss]

The most of the times I played PoW, no one read the chat

[unreal lichen]

dont think i can hit lvl 20 without spending

previous i able reach lvl 30 as f2p

[north moss]

Hi there!
We have posted a lot of feedback about this in case you would like to check some out. Feel free to upvote or downvote if you don't agree #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[rotund rover]

well there was no chat, no markers, no response from any of them, and they all moved off occupied forts constantly just as dumb as each other despite numerous suggestions ranging from diplomatic to expletive laden 😆 they not do that

[unreal lichen]

tea is better than coffee

[north moss]

Tea won't keep me awake

[woeful hemlock]

The jungle idle rewards should be the same as the Pinball idle rewards, at least one reward will be awarded instead of 2 hours

[north moss]

I agree..
In my honest opinion, more rewards should be given every few seconds/minutes .. Especially when the skins are so expensive

For example.. That is pretty..but 200k points? ...

[woeful hemlock]

That's a sentinel

With the cash out bonus, I think it's easy to get

[north moss]

How many chances would a f2p have to get the wings? Asking for a friend

[unreal lichen]

i think previous event is easy to get wing

[woeful hemlock]

the 300k wings?

[north moss]

Which one? Anniversary was definitely impossible for the f2p

[north moss]

Yup! let's share some strategies, opinions

[unreal lichen]

anniversary stage 7, yes it hard for f2p but some less spender able to get wing because of jungle gems

[woeful hemlock]

This is the results for 100 pinball

[north moss]

That's true. It's sad that they changed it. During anniversary I think I reached the highest level that I could get in jungle gems

[woeful hemlock]

And without the buff

[unreal lichen]

unfortunately i didn't spend because though it was stupid idea

all of my friend get a wing

[north moss]

I used 200+10 without buff

[woeful hemlock]

So about 2k to 3k pinball should get it

[north moss]

I got the 4.999 bundle my pocket cried there

[north moss]

[woeful hemlock]

So if a f2p wants to get the wings, start saving the pinball from now😌

[north moss]

I didn't get the wings either because I used everything on stage 1. Don't be like me and save it for the end of the event

[north moss]

[digital glacier]

Only gonna have to save for like 5 years 🤷 but ya know. You can get you a set of wings. 🤷🤣

[unreal lichen]

unfortunately im a f2p, only i can afford is chicken wing

3 hour, joke rewards

[unreal lichen]

nah, get rich girlfriend/boyfriend

[digital glacier]

I only afford a crayon and i can make a crude drawing of a chicken wing 🤣

[distant gull]

Yes, already make that feedback

[unreal lichen]

let me add another feedback 😂

[digital glacier]

Did you submit this one.
Devs = 💩🎋

[unreal lichen]

done 😂

[north moss]

Ok now I'm hungry and I want spicy chicken wings

[pallid willow]

Thanks for the complainers we got trashier jungle gems 😒

[jovial vigil]

How to ruin your game 101. People don't care as much for the currency they need the random rewards and you completely screwed it up

[unreal lichen]

congrats to player suggest 6h max idle 😂

[jovial vigil]

Yeh, blame the players... Honestly FP coming up with abusive spouse tactics. "It's your fault that I'm hitting you"

[unreal lichen]

unfortunately i ate all spicy chicken wing

[tardy night]

Shifting blame onto players suggests that the company has no agency in the decision and always listens to advice

When less than 2% of the feedback ever provided is listened to.

[digital glacier]

I have "flaming red" and "crispy brown" crayons, I could draw you one 🤷

[digital glacier]

A lot is listened to.
A lot is implemented.
It just takes 4+ years typically and feedback without specifics get a very very bad implementation compared to the meaning of the players suggestion.
Hey, I mean, look, it only took 1 year for them to implement pets 🤣🤣🤣

[tardy night]

4+ years is just them implementing standard shifting strategy within the product cycle. Nothing's been heard when it was in the plan all along.

A dying product and a growing one will have different pushes implemented. That's not anyone listening to players. They're doing what will get stuff sold to the currently interested demographic.

[jovial vigil]

*I don't like the way you're hitting me with a belt that hurts and it's degrading " - "ok I have heard you, from now on I'm gonna use my baseball bat "

[tidal apex]

Increasing idle time in jungle gems was good idea, shame they only did it up to 6h, I try to get more sleep than that and not gonna run the game first thing after waking up :p

Increased idle time is good, noone asked them to change getting rewards every hour 😒

Well I guess it worked like usual. They kinda listened to feedback. Like how we complain we wanna updated rewards in fortress and they say "No fortress, no problem" 🤣

[woeful hemlock]

This is bad

[forest kiln]

🤔

I dont understand complains about

[rain reef]

idle time

[rain reef]

before, yu can get this in max 3hrs

[forest kiln]

Rewars coming ones in hr

So, what's the problem now

[woeful hemlock]

nah, I don't received the rewards in every hour

[woeful hemlock]

And after 4 hours, this is what I got

At Level 31

[rain reef]

maybe she not get like this

3hrs wait, 1K biocaps.

she still happy so no understand at all

[woeful hemlock]

Yes

[rain reef]

[woeful hemlock]

She's lucky to get those😌

[unreal lichen]

4h, finally got something

[woeful hemlock]

Guess I will wait for 6 hours for the first round

[thorn axle]

Jungle gems seem to be adjusted back to hourly

[forest kiln]

Every 60 mins not ones in hr?

[patent olive]

Yes they fixed it

[thorn axle]

The first set of rewards came in at the second hour… made us believe they nerfed to 2 hour rewards

Did my message send twice

[forest kiln]

O, good. I was lost at what is going on😂

Now I see

[coarse verge]

Hey smart pants 😘

[coarse verge]

Bonus level can hold your progress, none reading version, he is correct

[digital glacier]

Is this the first implementation in 2024 for players getting a better game life quality 😍😍😍

Albeit, broken at first, and supposedly it's fixed now. So they legit increased from 3 to 6 hr idle rewards time 😍 I'm stunned. 🫠

[soft gulch]

Lets not start kissing their ___ just yet

[forest kiln]

Well, I can sleep now 6 hrs instead of 3... for me this is improvement🙈

[lavish mist]

wait and see

[digital glacier]

Yeah, lol. Why you think I said supposedly 🤷 and "is this" as in "?" Not
"." should I have said "could this be" instead 🤷 would that have been better for you 🤔

[lavish mist]

well, if in the end they truly just extended timer.. then its a good improvement for once lol but i cant help but be cautious before accepting its been improved lol

[forest kiln]

This one comes every 60 min or same like a gems? 5 UTC, 6 UTC and so on?

[lavish mist]

its the same

on the hour

xx:00

so collect both at same time

[coarse verge]

We should acknowledge good things too

[digital glacier]

Yup. It's fixed

[woeful hemlock]

🥲

[digital glacier]

Those magnifying glasses help 🤪

[blazing steeple]

My guess is if you took part in jungle gems before "fix" you will not get idle rewards for before fix

[cloud ridge]

Ah yes, a glitch 👀

[forest kiln]

🤔 On other channel ppl says they cut rewards for pinball in jungle gems... couldn't find anything for last jungle gems for pinball

[lavish mist]

I’m not sure what you mean.. the whole pinball idle thing is new and probably unneeded tbh 😂 but it’s free stuff so whatever comes out of it is good as long as they don’t destroy jungle gems

[unreal lichen]

6 hour idle lvl 1-10

[unreal lichen]

ouch

[forest kiln]

3 seconds? 3 SECONDS?! 🤣

With how game lugging, WTH?!🤣

[cloud ridge]

It takes like 3 seconds for the balls to reach it after launching lol

But pinball does seem nerfed to me, like the drop pool is

[rocky otter]

Wth is this 35 plasma is 5 dolar ??

[stable cosmos]

Don't buy that one. Absolutely not. Thats like beginner level new state stuff almost

[woeful hemlock]

Can the buff be stacked?

[soft gulch]

I think pricing/quantity issue. they are giving polys for free.

[thorny plume]

So they now let us sleep 6 hours but they have ruined the event 🤷

Elder tusker is now moved to 48? Like wtf

Theese useless towers instead @40

[jolly harness]

not to bad either

[thorny plume]

You can simply buy em for 50

Why should you spend 100 on the gems

[jolly harness]

for most people that isn't " simply " at all

[thorny plume]

They have to spend to he same amount if not more getting it from the gems

[soft gulch]

what? "simply" buy for 50? 0.5 Hero final damage for 50$ seems good deal, eh?

[thorny plume]

No it doesnt

[jolly harness]

the elder tusk is way more then that man

[thorny plume]

The elder tusker is quite good, but placing it at 48 makes it quite expensive

So as stated, they have nerfed the event

Given us a tower most of us dont need or want

[soft gulch]

I got few elder tuskers previously when it was at 40.

[jolly harness]

20$ now

[thorny plume]

And they seem to have removed some statues along the way

Yes so no jungle gems is dead

I called it. It wont be a cash cow for then anymore and we will get it less often. This was something they made alot money on

[soft gulch]

I would like 0.5 x 4 final dmg at 40.

[thorny plume]

Jungle gems was great tbh

Even my f2p alts has tonns of stuff and this could lower the gap between huge whales and small whales

But someone didnt want that

So its nerfed quite alot

And i know it was a cash cow because you can see the alliance packs

[soft gulch]

Jungle gems is still great (after the hourly reward fix)
If you were finishing 50 levels before (i know a few who did for the most of time) event is pretty much the same.
I was constantly hitting 40+, with a spend of 50-60$
I think I am pretty satisfied.

They have been changing rewards every few runs, Elder Tusker was at 50 when Jungle launched.

[thorny plume]

Yes and then the queen of tides was moved in so tusker made more reachable

And I agree it will be quite good to be able to sleep 6 hours again

But yea 50-60 usually gets you to 40-42

The difference between 40 and 48 is quite big. It will be cheaper to buy the tusker unless you are pushing an event where the Jungle gems gives you items for event (like pinball operation festival etc)

But as f2p its great, since free. And youll get to 30+- as f2p

So question will be if difference between 32 and 40 is worth 60 €

Imo with tower, no, atleast not for me

A smarter move would be to let it run as it is till people stop spending because they have gotten statues etc to a satisfactory level then introduce something costly that makes those statues less meta 🤷 whales would buy it either way and get the gap back. Not that it ever will be small enough.

But then they can zero you in 3 hits instead of 7 again. So they will pay.

And funplus makes money so win win

[jolly harness]

The gap between high and low spenders will always be there.
My opinion is that in the last few months they " gave " low spender - even F2P - quite ' expensive ' statues which could be obtained for free ( memorial statues ). Yet low spenders / F2P were the people saying ' not good enough, we need MORE and MORE and MORE '.

And the thing is like the screenshot said. They won't EVER be happy with what they get.
Long time player can agree that bio caps were something rare to get back in the day. Even a year ago it was somehow hard for F2P's to get a decent amount. Yet now my alt gets up to 50 - 100K bios A WEEK. which helps in rays wheel or whatever.

They have made multiple events playable for them ( through task completion or something else )
Then they added jungle gem - which AGAIN provided F2P with stuff they could use in events where before they bare made any rank whatsoever.

Now they added a idle timer to the pinball event, No one asked, but we got it, it's a little more rewards for low spenders / F2P's AGAIN. and i can't wait to see them complain about the whole thing.

The devs are greedy with spending i agree.
But the SOS community is greedy to. and lately it's more a toxic community then a healthy one