#📋︱feedback-discussion
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Also with this being said I’m sure the devs will go back to the drawing board to reduce the glory rewards. Can’t have people getting those skins. 🤣
Why? I don't see how 1 or even 10 extra skin will bring F2P to 50+ collection
We are not even collector 40
Max players are above 80 and some even reached 90
I've been farming almost only coal the entire season and it's imposible reach the max level without spending a lot
@merry scroll
migo this time was bad.. impossible complete tundra.. becuase mines give low rewards..
are Devs going to make it better next migo? and make it as last migo? or they greedy and wont do that?
here we go 
I’ve finally stopped gathering coal. It no use so now I just gather crystals
I don’t know. Why make getting Astro coins so hard?
Been doing that since 2 weeks ago
Started it last week. Less stress
I need them to upgrade it, in order to get that tempest arm chest 😵
It's likely that you need to upgrade to lvl 90 to get that chest
And that requires 45 boiler room so I doubt you will get there even if you gather mines because it's not enough
The stats in that tempest arms crate will garbage. Sure they will be orange or red but it will be stats that are useless.
I need to be possitive🥲
And you risk the 1.5 troop defense or 7 troop health skill...
Share music? I really wonder what this game will become? Dr Yamazaki cures the zombies and we live happily ever after? 😂
so this so called update is going to add music, most people have the sound off so whats the point and how have they got around the rights issue ???
As long as no new product gets released sure why not🫡
But I’m telling now we will be fighting zombies in space 😂
My question is are they paying for copyrights? Or will this be the new pirate bay? 🤣
same question, when i was a streamer they didnt allow copyrighted music, so it will be elevator music only allowed??
I need a drive in cinema on the island where we can watch the latest movies 😂
I know all prefer more game ballance, better rewards and events, but at least is something not bad, it could be worst 😅
And the game size will be 20gb soon 🤣
Omg i didn't consider that 🤣
as for this "Strategic Deployment" as if they dont want us spending enough time on the game, what are they going to get rid of, Throwdown, or better still Pacific Rim
Omg my concrete is locked inside the V and I can’t renew 🥹
Didnt you say you were F2P...
oh were we supposed to mine coal, I gave up that weeks ago
Yes
So how can you buy the pass and still be f2p?
Maybe is a gift😅
Maybe
Really playing our favourite jam in our mansion for our visitors. Who actually plays with the sound on?!? This game has lost the plot
They fixing the real issues
Hi Bus, give this an upvote please #📋︱feedback-reporting message.
It's covers wanting more attempts as Monster 😎
finally it was something everyone could play, horrible that they ask to get paid for monsters 😒
she is F2P with unlimited diamonds in
That's a good feedback you posted Bus, I gave you an upvote.
B2B Bus 🚌

Let's consider the numbers:
- Assume there are 100,000 players participating in the event.
- Each player is expected to play 60 games.
- This results in a total of ( 100,000 \times 60 = 6,000,000 ) games.
Given the format of 4 humans against 1 monster, each game requires 1 monster.
- If players only have 2 opportunities to play as the monster, then each player can play a monster in ( 100,000 \times 2 = 200,000 ) games.
Thus, the total number of games that can be played with available monsters is 200,000.
To meet the demand for 6,000,000 games, the number of players playing as monsters would need to be recalculated. If each player needs to play 30 games as a monster to balance the matches:
- Total required monster games: 6,000,000
- Games per player as a monster: 30
- Required number of players playing as monsters: ( 6,000,000 \div 30 = 200,000 )
Therefore, you would need 200,000 players to play as monsters 30 times each to fill the required games. This clearly shows the imbalance and highlights the necessity for changes.
So you would need more players too play the event, that plays it, and they would have too pay for it. it's like the King of the hill HQ dragon skin all over where we was suppose too play for 14 Years (before they fixxed the price) #📋︱feedback-reporting message
simple answer is dont play the stupid event, let it die in a fire
No this event was perfect in the first two days
hmmm i must have played a different version, i found in boring and over long
Pow is a pay to win event
ahhh thats why then
I wish someone at the developers' headquarters had an economics degree
wait aren't all events pay to win these days
u will pay to add space 😂

Hi everyone!
I definitely agree with you about the event. I personally stop playing it. I didn't like it either 
If you need any help to write a feedback about it for #📋︱feedback-reporting let me know..
Speaking of feedbacks ,may I ask how's your state's doing lately?
Mine is inactive and we are waiting/hoping for a merge to happen because with every state transfer we lose people who go to more actives states. 

That's true unfortunately,many players keep quitting the game due to real life.
I have made a lot of posts about this. If you want I can submit one for you also. 
I hope that your states will get merged soon. It will bring some new activity even if that's temporary
You can post this if you want?
Observation:
The current trend of adding numerous events for earning points in activities like Migo has led to an overwhelming number of events. This continuous addition puts excessive pressure on players, especially high-level players and whales. If these players do not participate in every event, it negatively impacts the morale within their alliances.
Consequence:
The excessive number of events leads to player fatigue and decreased morale, as players feel obligated to participate constantly. In the past, we only had a few key events such as Underground, SvS, RR, Migo, and CC. Now, the sheer number of events is significantly higher, making it difficult to maintain enthusiasm and participation levels.
Suggested Solution:
Consider reducing the number of events or spacing them out more evenly to alleviate the pressure on players. This will help maintain a balanced and enjoyable gaming experience, ensuring that players remain engaged and motivated.
State number:
965 - B2B Bus
Additional Note:
I wish someone at the developers' headquarters had an economics degree to better understand the impact of these changes on player engagement and game balance.
Do you really think so? when one alliance is to strong?
Might get some new members
I can !
I can also pm you about something.
About the additional note I want to think that the devs have the necessary studies that are needed. Because based on their page , it's not easy for people to work there.Some skills are needed 
Hm?
That depends. I know from experience that the alliance merger that happens for power most of the times , don't work out so I would not be worried regarding that
Yeah feel free too dm 🥳
On my wayyy 
because to many smart players last time got them, so they made it impossible this time
Oh no we accidentally got 3/4 coins needed for a skin 😂
Those 50 collection points to look pretty is too much
We might shocked make progress
i know, you can see their logic tho. PLayer finally got something a bit out of the ordianry and devs be like "nope not on my watch"
Even if i used them on actual stats
I need like 50 coins to EVEN make a dent in stats
me2, but dont feel bad , we will soon be able to play music to each other through the mansion upgrade......hashtag winning! smh
and probably needs to be unlocked by getting something that costs money lol
Doubt theres stats on it but i would be amazed if alliance hall and mansion had more than 100 people in them daily. Minus doing an alliance hall event. Just being in there casually. Its not happening
Yeah why are they pushing the mansion so hard for? I do t even think I looked in mine at all
wouldnt be surprised if they use ia for some parts of the game 🙄
They’ll add 500% lethality to it and that’s their solution 😂
Prolly don't wanna sink what they put into payroll by scrapping it, so instead they're gonna keep pushing it until we grudgingly accept it and contribute.
We basically already did that when island was released, so it's not like they'd be wrong
So like nexus lol
A regular MIGO skin gives 16 collection points. That is not even half the points needed to upgrade collection by 1 level
I don't think anyone really contributed to island. Just filled it up with all the decoration junk they've made important
I visit my island only when I'm upgrading something. Which is infrequent now
F2p are not allowed to improve. Ever.
Yeah, but in terms of collection level we are not even half of max player
Although i did bounce a p12s main march off a mine in AH yesterday as a p10 so that was fun
Nexus, like a few other events/features, is something that I think could be salvageable if it was reworked the way players agree would benefit the most of us. I also think having it for every world event is a big mistake, or at least so frequently within a world event.
They clearly wouldn't see the long term value in doing something like that, and since they don't wanna give me my dev chat, I won't go into details.
Don't want the listening walls coming back with something approaching a good idea
Dude, Elizabeth, you would be so proud of me
My completely f2p is collector 15 😅
Felt
hats bad if Nexus is the only good thing
I think what bothers me the most about this game, but mostly the company developing it, is not just how much of a cashgrab it is and has been - only to get worse over time - but how illogical and inefficient everything is within it. From the copy and paste development path to the actual events and features themselves, everything is just so poorly managed and designed, and they just don't seem to care that they could actually be doing way better and have less issues with their customer base by improving it and listening to us as we say things - not as they hear them.

Halloween in July isn’t good?
Or Valentine’s Day in June
Generation skip happened 8 months ago. They did nothing to help us...
New years in August
Not even 1 capsule or 1 potion...
they have no idea about the game, they think that everyone having access to the same heroes makes it fair, they forget that older states had longer to grow
They are ruining more and more states with their generation skips... next time it will be 7 generations
Nah, I think it will always be 6 unless an opportunity comes to make it 8 by affecting their schedule
they will say its only 4 because there is no way to get gen 13 or 14 anymore
500s skipped 13-15
600s skipped 13-16
700s skipped 13-17
800s skipped 13-18
Next will be 13-19
But six gens guarantees them a few things about what people will be buying, doing, etc to try and stay competitive and relevant. 8 gens is an additional worthless two gens, which only makes them a little money
500s just skipped 13
but they could at least get capsules for 13, in the 700s and 800s we cant
Imagine they removed 100 hours from the boost store, and now they reduced just one attempt at desert survival and you talking about Astro coin to give it to F2P 😂
If y’all keep discussing it they gonna make it trash and nobody will get enough glory

Please dont give them ideas to make game even worse
That’s y’all tho🤣🤣
Nothing , it’s became impossible to get it now just forget about it. Hopefully nexus/ glory help a lot of people to get skins , but trust me they will change it next migo or they will reduce glory lol
Y’all discuss things we like, everytime that happens they nerf it asf
still its maintenance tomorrow, so free stuff when they overrun again
Well, I guess I ranted enough😅
Back to enjoying my vacation
Hey, Awesome idea to reduce the number of monster attempts by 2/3.... Perfect way to make a new event that you worked on more fluid and engaging
Hey. I understand this is such a frustrating change.. if you go here
#📋︱feedback-reporting message
There's some feedback about it which would help if you could upvote ♡
Lets asume my contribution is average. Anyone out there who believes my state have 4000+ accounts scoring points? 🤓🤣
Must be nice. I've gotten nothing worthwhile
Devs are lying. They always do with things like this
Or its game wide and they don't make it clear
Devs will never make the game more equitable or even think about it when guys have already bought enough packs to max out all three new skins. What happened to the days of working to build up your settlement and using strategy. Game is for the rich now and only the rich. Just my bank account is bigger than your bank account players. Don’t these players understand the negative impact on the game when they just buy their way to being maxed out?
Think it’s time to stop hoping that things will change and delete this game for good.
Think you are an anomaly in that regards
How many more do you need, 99? 😃
Yes. As a f2p, it looks doable
so in 857, this is what the Devs have decided is fair, @merry scroll please ask the Devs how this is supposed to be fun, and what planet they are on, with the so-called Matching
in 759 this is the idea of Dev Fair matching
how it that fair????
Shadowlord, what’s the lethality difference between y’all if i may ask?
I’m noticing that the old rule of thumb i had for massacring is no longer accurate
actually not that bad but its the morale that is the killer
Morale doesn’t stack more
My old rule of thumb was every 100% difference between stats was 2x the amount of troops killed, but those numbers for my hits would have meant that they would have soloed 10.5 million and i had 7.5 and they didn’t burn me first hit
So i was looking to revise it, and my current hypothesis was every 100% is closer to 1.5-1.75 nowadays
Just due to stat inflation
Which if that is the case, is really good news because that means that as stats get inflated, the amount of stats the whales spend on becomes more and more worthless in big battles
Who could possibly tell you such a lie??
oh i have played long enough to know its a lie but we were told the Devs thought nexus would be fun
I'm sorry if you were expecting fun and engaging gameplay, Nexus is about being a whale and hoping that there won't be any bigger whales
It could be fun on PTR where everyone is around equal (maxed out completely)
thats the issue with PTR, not a real test
That's a topic for a different time 😊
true
in the end its a game, not fun when the Devs have no idea of matching, but its a game, not real life
but they need to stop saying they events are fun
This really is quite a problem. Very unfortunate for you to match these players. Do you have whales in your state / alliance that either do or at least, used to be top tier spenders? I notice a pattern in these matchmaking issues where it’s whales put with “potential” whales, an algorithm to entice or exploit the aggression of our emotions to spend a lot / more.
a few in the state but not in the alliance
It’s definitely worth keeping in mind this pattern. This is one of the top players if I recall correctly too. There’s absolutely no chance of beating this player unless you have top players too.
to be honest i dont really care, except for the morale when i looked at the stats there was only a few 100 difference
and some of my statues were higher
They used to be. That’s for sure; before the amount were thrown introducing time to reward ratio is scraps.
Some statues offer valuable perks too, you can check under comparison and I believe the next tab it’s on “other”.
i used to get angry but no point, just take the positive scraps
I try to put minimal effort in to get the most rewards, even if I miss some I’m not wasting additional materials or time to get one or two milestones. 😅
Yes
We have a huge Chinese player in the state with two accounts that is basically inactive. One is 12bn.
We got AFO in Nexus, which seem to be one of the top alliances in the entire game and have a 39bn player. Fortunately, they haven't got to us yet. But when they do, I expect similar results to the above.
Good luck with him, he's already got the pacific skins and killed his own state, least according to what people say in migo chat 😂
Who needs the devs to burn the game to the ground when you have whales that will do it for fun?
Shhhh all enough complaining about event bugs and issues and never coming “improvements” to nexus or tbh any years long events, lets just go and enjoy soooooo asked by many music player in mansions
Don't have a mansion yet. Not vip10. I'm curious what the music is. Does it have a preselected list of free license stuff? Are they leeching out of spotify? Have they paid licenses for any popular songs and are wasting money?
I think there would be legal repercussions for allowing music on your device to be played through the app to an audience. Its not the same thing as having a house party etc
Survivatify…. 📻🤣
i still would like a <@&555639728632758272> to explain how things like that are supposed to be "Fun" and fun for Whom???
It would be great if we could exchange statue permits or bonus statues for different ones by paying 1k-10k bios, as both items cannot be recycled and feel useless once maxed out.
game is trash
Hi Birb, that’s a great idea. Being able to recycle and or exchange permits for other permits would be super useful, especially if one is just short of getting the settlement effect. That sort of feature is long overdue imo, especially now since they are tons of statues out there. Thanks for suggestion. I’ll forward it.
Thanks! It would also be nice if they added a function to pick between level 7 and level 10 wilderness effects. I love some level 7 effects, but once upgraded to level 10, they can be underwhelming effect.
No problem - and I agree, some lv7 effects also look better to me than the lv10 ones. That introduces a tradeoff (stats vs aesthetics) that certainly can be avoided. I’ll include that as well.
as it maintenance later i wonder if the CMs will actually answer some questions, like whats the point of PTR when they give out all thats needed to max things, and have no idea how it will affect normal players, or where is the fun in Nexus when a player is reduced to less that a behemoth march so they cant even collect from the mines???
Those are really Good questions shadow, I dearly hope we do get answers for them. Please check dm.
Just WHO, WHO are that people who came up with this 💩 🤣
I have rough idea 
Shhhh
Tell them to keep doing it
The more useless features they crank out, the less money they’re extorting 😂
I wonder if anyone is actively paying for that tosh
Sound off was first setting to use in game
I'm just curious how they come up to this mansion idea... "Hey, we are developing zombie apocalypses game... we invented monkeys, dinosaurs & Island of Trash with casinos ... what is not enough for players to fight against zombies is secret mansions with blackjack and hoo**rs... lest do it"
I just see next we will see "secret" Tinder menu activated with 10K $ in that mansion and possibility to exchange "private" pictures ... 5$ each
I've been playing sos without any sound lol
I turned off sound from the beginning too
Game is dying. The gap is bigger than the world but anyway let’s the party begin

Man why did I upgrade my sims4 with new packs. Could have just played it in sos.
I bet the new developers used to develop some sort of my little Mansion game
Now they bring this trash here
Will be impossible to fix the gap.
Fun when our small alliance held city 5 yesterday, managed to take rallies from our neighbor. But then big neighbor from other side came and solo us out of city after they where done with their city 5.
1 solo on a full building should never win
The gap is actually fixable to some extent but it requires a shift in logic that they can't do.
Step 1. Next gen of heroes are a TINY amount more powerful than the previous gen.
Step 2: give people enough stuff to actually max out older gens, minus the syringes
Step 3: let f2p max out, minus the stabilisers both behemoths and bring in a new one that is barely more powerful than the previous 2
Step4: follow this for 3 more hero gens and 1 more behemoth.
Gap isn't actually shut, and it shouldn't be, paying deserves to be in front, but paying shouldn't also steamroll the game. If you want that to happen just let people type iddqd in chat and go mad
there will always be a gap between f2p and spenders but it should be bridgeable in a reasonable amount of time but the management here don't want that because there would be no incentive to spend
Same happened to us. We closed it only cuz we held longer, but got taken in 12 solo attaks. our rally lead who does not have the crazy expensive resonators and over 18mil troops. Burned in 8 solo attack. Has 16mil in hospital
I wouldn't say bridgeable. That implies that we catch up. I don't believe we should ever catch up unless a spender stops spending.
But if we play the game as it should be with time instead of money spenders should bounce of an hq more than once and at most a double rally should be needed to kick anyone.
thats what i mean by bridgeable, the chance to max in a reasonable amount of time but as it is certain things are unobtainable unless you spend silly amounts
Oh, and let decorations be simple decorations ffs. If they have to do ANYTHING then let them provide a tiny bonus to rss production...
Make new hero gens release at least every 9-12 months than every 2.5 months will be more convenient... with all this new stuff which they pushing every month
Yeah, I don't understand why we need new heroes every 3 months, got more heroes than we can do anything with
Thats part of them sucking at revenue flow. Whole thing works on big lump sums
They can't slow down because they profit from big spenders. But if they ignore player feedback about the game's imbalance, players will eventually leave for another game
New heroes every season is ok. But then let it be really easy to get fragments for old generations
Daily intels should give 1-3 generations old fragments, not purple crap that has been maxed for 3.5 years
its the gen skip that killed a lot of that, but when you are up against resonating heroes that even as a low spender you had no chance of getting it makes you wonder why bother with certain events well any pvp to be honest
We have 18 gens already... this is 54 heroes, plus purple and blue and resonating, I think it's around 100... around 70% of them dead. New heroes make sense if you can dismantle old ones and at least partially cover new ones with this. But to keep 70 heroes ... for what?
Its fiiine. More legendary and epic badges in all forms of rewards will solve it. Btw legendary frags which only work on skills and grant no points are worth 90000 currency in places outstripping everything else
they should turn legendary frags into a general purpose capsule
maybe dev have big brain, all " old gen hero " only good to gathering rss 😂
I have march for this without heroes, monkeys and rest setted 🤣
Power play and operation festival give some points, thats where i use the general gold frags, haven't found a better use for them
Not sure, but I think in their other games you can dismantle heroes.
shhh don't let them know, otherwise they will make bundle to dismantle hero worth 9999 diamond
in one game i played the more advance you were you actually played with the same level so if you paid anything you would be against players with the same things but their was no gen skip and you could, given time catch those who spent, but that company believed in looking after the f2p
The game has too much stuff to really have equal matchups imo, if its not the rally leads, people then complain about the sheer bp difference or member amount. They could do better for sure, but understandably its hard. A single collector 85+ player can win even svs with just a few good joiners
If matched for example against 5 collector 80 leads
Same here. March with only troops for gathering and send new troops to buildings sfter they get attacked
just a simple question at this point, with the game in maintenance, why are the CMs not involved in this chat
Dr Yamazaki found an abandoned radio station 😂
just wait for all the copyright claims to come in
My first post here in a very long time. Some facts: Slowing down will never happen. Bridging the gap will never happen. Spending opportunities will only get faster as the game is dying. RNG is here to stay.
The only thing people can do is decide if they continue to play the game as they do now (pay, free-to-play, etc) or change it or quit.
A player from the game wrote and played the new music. They gave the player rss and 1000 purple frags as payment
whoopee do
🤭
If thats true that person was utterly ripped off even if the music is awful.
Do it for the exposure...
Question, what happends to auctions during downtime?
Perhaps a rap about moneygrabbing developers in a game might be appropriate?
I mean, sortoff stupid isnt it if a high priced item goes down at the middle of downtime?
Wheres my bidding war 🤐?
That would be i dunno, incredibly stupid. We are talking about items sold for ingame currency in the 500-1000 euro range and funplus doesnt really bother to freeze auctions during downtime ? Or how is this done ?
@merry scroll
New chat, 👍 👎 element it would be nice to see who actually did it.
Oh leadership chat needs a red dot when a new comment is added
I've sent feedback about it , kindly upvote if you'd like

Thank you
You're welcome anytime 💓
The new features in chat make it extremely laggy
Glad you could answer that question about the new red dot. What about my question, gonna ignore it?
How can I petition to have the sale cancelled ? Auctions ending during a unexpected downtime is a huge L as good items often end in bidding wars when the right people have bid. I got robbed for that now twice
Love being baited on nearly every line when ghost line had 4 since beginning
Ton of chips for 15 pearls
i prefer last year circuit repair easy to predict and straight foward, less chip been consume
anyway i don't like quote UI 😂
Quote should be on top and bottom is player comment
Hello , sorry I didn't see it 😅, I'll look for more information about it now 👍
Sooo technically the item will not get bids as no one could enter the game so if you're referring to that your item in action has ended when the server was in a downtime 🤔 i think it would definitely be a great idea doing a feedback report so the auction duration freezes in that time. to improve the system I suggest to report it here #📋︱feedback-reporting using that format #📋︱feedback-how-to and I can write it for you if you'd like
Sure, but would be good if i got some sort of sensible way to also petition it as the last 20 minuts of auctions are potentially quite profitable for the seller.
This item could realisticly be sold for atleast 20 - 25k more.
And that i got robbed out of.
Ill bother making a feedback if I get good response on my petition, so likely not.
Otherwise its just something I can abuse, two good exploits found in 2 months isnt bad 🤷 THAT can also be my compansation
Bid low just as maintenance is about to go live and win a good item for cheap?
If thats the plan, please do. Anything that makes f---plus lose out
Yes seems like thats a new market strategy Ill follow
I get your point. The last 20 minutes of an auction can be really important for getting a good price. If you want to address this issue, you should reach out to CS
They won't do anything. Will be more likely to pointlessly cite the auction tos
Players on old graphics mode cant see half of the new update so nice job
What am i missing? I hate new gfx mode and refuse to use it.
And then its another thing I can exploit.
Infact I could ruin two events with one sentence on this channel. That is also tempting but so many people would hate me for it
lol they’ve already switched off leadership chat. That was quick😂
it's not of much use if we can't see who interacted with!!
it could have been useful to take adhesions for RR, like thumb high for L1 and thumb low for L2
but if we can't see who interacts with the post alliance it's practically useless
In my opinion ofc
and obviously the usual bug could not be missing
no one in my alliance can write an alliance post because we are all so fast, lol
it seems there is a 1 hour cooldown on alliance post.... its just too long for a communication channel..
Poorly implemented idea invented without learning what it would be useful for. Just chucked in, no thought at all
and then this story of being able to ban whoever even for the most idiotic things is really absurd!!
100%
I don't even have 1% of the moral
I think it's time for devs to listen to our feedback and give all players 3 astro coins as compensation. Give us our astro coins and we will ignore all the bad things that happened this MIGO
We are waiting
Stop with the Astro coins..they won’t give it
They will give 5 skin tickets like they always do
Or better yet they won’t give anything like 90% of the time
Don't you agree that this MIGO has been awful?
What is Astro going to logically fix, though?
The only thing really bad was the mining and the conversion rate..the rest was the same. And to be honest not getting tundra house to 100 is t making or breaking the game. Nexus was a fail but like you said the honor merits were good. But other then that Migo is same as always long and drawn out
It’s all temp stats anyway
It was. But 3 astro coins doesn't solve issue. I want compensation for all this 💩 Nexus non existent matchmaking & that Tundra processing rates & non existent lvl 8-9 mines
🤣
So a 219 MB + 111 MB + 872 MB update just shipped.
What's in it that warrants this size?
Migo is a scam..they found a way for people to keep paying for same stat bonuses every 3 months lol
Seasonal badge is nothing but a TRAGEDY
Tundra is nothing but a TRAGEDY (i agree that bad conversaion rate is a factor here)
And I'm being unreasonable asking for compensation?
That’s a lot of music in your mansion
We got nothing except for Glory... and Nexus is the best thing that happened this MIGO. How funny is that
"music player feature that lets you play and share your favorite songs with visitors"🤣
Music files aren't FLAC. 🤣🤣
Doubt they're even 128 kbps streams
Yes, give us the compensation! That's what I asked!
You asked for three Astro coins. What's three Astro coins as comp for one MIGO season really going to do for f2p? I'm sure it benefits you, but I have no use for something that only allows me to buy limited things, none of which actually positively contribute to my f2p status over a long period of time.
It is, but it doesnt excuse fact that a lot alliances were matched with super powered alliances. SOS developers had stupidity declare their "goal is to make sure all Alliances can enjoy fair battle in Nexus Struggle and get the rewards they deserve based on their power and participation"... I think most of us didnt enjoy be on same map with 300-500BP alliances then we are just 50 or 100BP
I mean, I already have the everlasting bonfire on all three accounts. The hq skins are worthless to me as I have very little to accompany them, meaning they don't positively contribute to my stats unless I get all of them, the tempest arms are heavily reliant on the same RNG as the actual mechanic...
I mean, nothing here is actually fully good for a regular f2p.
It gives us what we couldn't get in this MIGO. I don't think I'm unreasonable
It doesn't give me what I want or need as an f2p player and only stands to make me weaker in the long run by having incomplete collections hanging around.
Would rather Glory than Astro
That's more like a general matchmaking problem that has been submitted multiple times before😅
I don't think you're unreasonable, Elizabeth. I think you're thinking about what would benefit you as a player, and Astro would. But it wouldn't benefit the normal f2p as much as it would someone in your position.
Remember, you have the benefit of a supportive and big alliance to help you. Many of us have smaller alliances
To join others, this is awful and not tested
3 Astro coins are worth 360 migo glory
But you have more available to contribute directly in an impactful way through Glory than with Astro. And for an f2p, we need to be completing collections in order to have that impact. We can't complete collections with Astro.
You can get a MIGO HQ skin + ascended tempest arms crate😅
I get it. You want Astro. That doesn't mean we want astro
Whats this?
Ehhhhh?
Came after the new update
They mentioned something about that in game update post?
But wasn't sure what exactly it was
I think they changed allaince relo ports to go to a set area rather than r5?
That may be it and a r4 has selected that as the port area?
Whatever change happened to the mines, it's too late anyway
There's 5 days left and F2P players will not get close to enough coal for Tundra building
Spenders aren't either 😅
What's a MIGO skin gonna help
Hello! 
This is a new feature added to the game:
Added an Alliance gather point feature and changed Alliance Relocation to relocate around the gather point.
Conversion rates are just awful, so much more stress from this migo even when FP wanted us to relax and focus more on events
Oh ok, thank you for the answer
And that doesn't mention the fact that both tempest crates still rely on RNG. You've got a better chance of pull something to sell in auction. And those sprite crates? Don't really need them if I don't have any in the first place.
Special statues are nice but don't tend to have massive impact
Exactly
HQ skin is better really from migo, even if you can't get set
Least you get fancy skin, some stats and a bit of collection points
They made some features in MIGO impossible and we couldn't get the astro coins we should have gotten this season. I think 3 astro coins as compensation is reasonable
Then frame and HQ skin is all you need
Collection doesn't really mean much unless you want some of the stats you get from it.
40 is nice for the troop training speed, 30 I think gives research speed bonus, not sure on 20
Exactly, Duck. Sure it can help some people, but for someone like a NORMAL f2p, they're better focusing on other things than worrying over decor.
F2p focus should be HQ and frame skins
Those are already things which are freely achievable, or can be gained with engagement, and I would have to agree.
Then getting monke and formation stuff from store
On the formation note, I enjoy when their collabs have the infected cleanup portion at the start. Even if I think this collab as well as the previous are uninspired and useless, I do appreciate the rewards from it.
Still not gonna pay money, but the free stuff right now is stuff I can save and use later on
They are nice, and you can get an alright amount without spending,
The Jaeger build is trash though. Cats video was very eye opening for how bad that drop rate is.
Don't even waste your time on it, it's big spender only requirements and only a few have the skins
Some people will just buy whatever you throw at them unfortunately 😂
As for stats, there are many events that can help get materials to improve stats. The only points of MIGO are Glory and Astro coin...
While I don't necessarily always like the spending culture, I do think that if people are going to invest in any or all of an event or collaborative effort, they should have what they're paying for. But I guess it really is like the lottery - or I guess more like the Powerball here in the states.
How about 955 glory points and 4 astro coins as comp 👀
One free set, either 2 skins or 1 fancy skin
So they released Nexus... allowed F2P to get Glory. That is good.
They ruined Tundra/Seasonal badges... F2P players couldn't get 2 Astro Coins.
I'm asking for a compensation of 3 Astro coins because their mistakes made us unable to get them
That's all I ask for
Again, I've never even gotten one Astro coin and I've been playing this game since April of 2020
That'll be much better
Most f2p gaze at the Astro coins from afar, or maybe have gotten one or two randomly for a great MIGO season. But it isn't a normal experience for us to get them.
Last few migos the astro coins were easy to get except the finish migo skill tree
You didn't get lvl 100 Tundra last time?
I think last time it was very easy to get
Why tf would I have gotten to level 100?
Astro coins aren't bad, they we're easyish to get but this migo not so much
I'm f2p
And even the badges were possible
Last migo it was easy to get to 100
I'm F2P too. I got lvl 100 last time
Even without spending
I'm f2p and last 2 seasons were so easy
The conversation rate was good last time
I also didn't play half the time because this game is... Well it's this game.
You did have to be aggressive on mines though
Not the most auspicious name 😂
Oh so there is the true reason
Ugh, mining. I keep forgetting to do that. Nexus has been better for remembering because I just send while I'm there
I'm an R5, so I was running an alliance. Sue me
So you were running an alliance but wasn't playing and couldn't get coins.
It's almost like making things accessible for the people I'm responsible for was more important than my own growth.
Amazing how leadership is a service position
Even so, Shields, Elizabeth is in a top alliance as an f2p and receives a ton of support and encouragement from her family.
Most f2p are NOT top alliances, and share a more similar experience to mine.
I'm sorry that was so hard to understand, but I might suggest reading back in the conversation next time you require context before trying a gotcha response without it.
Brb grabbing a different lighter, mines out of fluid and I refuse to engage here sober
Finally, after months of upvoting and dozens of requests we have music. Now can anyone tell me how to turn the sound on please 😃
Settings > Game
Should be Music and SFX toggles
Gonna have to switch accounts to check out the music, Posty doesn't have a mansion 😅
I love how the devs ignore all the feedback and with each update they include more useless stuff and events that no one but the voices in their head asked for🤣
I was being tongue in cheek, I think it is the most ridiculous thing they have introduced into this game. Invite your friends to your mansion to listen to music. What a load of cobblers
I've done nothing but try to suggest feedback to improve the game and give players a better gaming experience.
Last time it was possible for active F2P players to get Astro Coins as long as they were active in mining... and completed enough seasonal badges which was doable without spending.
This MIGO, neither was possible. I'm asking for compensation of 3 Astro Coins because they ruined these 2 MIGO features...
Meanwhile, outside the mansion and away from the idyllic sounds of the Waterboys, I’m being zeroed in nexus by a monster alliance 🤣
711m for the update. The game is already huge and adding stuff we didn’t even ask for😒
Who asked them for this useless button for "alliance gather"?
Use best heroes on the wall. And if you're low on troops, relocate away. Don't let them hit you
Again I was being tongue in cheek but thanks for the advice
I low-key dig the song that was playing when I went in lol it's my vibe
Please add a confirmation pop up message when a R4 places this new alliance gathering location marker.
Everyone is placing it on accident when trying to tap anything… 🥴 it’s really annoying .
Also all these little monopoly buildings sprouting up all over the place because of this new “deployments” event button (next to freight) is becoming a problem. They are all over the place in the hive. People can’t even port back to their places if they leave. We already have to deal with tomatoes popping up and now we gotta wait for these little shacks to expire too

Do we need even MORE gameplay features?
and remove strategic from this post
is there strategic in this game where and which event?
Also, great job adding features that 99% of people don't care about nor will use:
There isn't strategy... but it doesn't matter I guess
Alliance gather point is working great as well😂
When will it be fixed?
Who knows?
And finally, because I am feeling very annoyed today, let's release a 800MB patch 1hr before Nexus:
That's not a patch, love. That's the update
So reach🤣
Patch/update - It's garbage still
Fair lol
Anyone else having problems pre-setting 6 march slots after the update?
They keep adding music and other stuff, but fixing MIGO and compensating everyone with three astro coins is too difficult?
I just...
I have the same issue:
No option to see any others
Yeah and it will kick you out of the game sometimes
That too...nice
I'm reloading everything to see if it changes
my power is not even half your march power🤣
so, what it's actually do if I set mine full of people from other alliances as Alliance Gather point?
No idea... it's not like it will help... unless you get 200K coal per hour...
And it still doesn't fix the seasonal badge problem...

Looks like your marches are gone🤣
It's for nexus etc when you wanna coordinate who goes where
And lead can use it to set location people can teleport to using alliance lead teleport location I presume
R5, not lead.
They just decided to leave with me. I'm playing for the last week and leaving. 
Take care
Move the gather point button to not be where the rally button usually sits so it doesn’t get pressed 100 times by R4’s just trying to do trap 🤦🏼♀️
Just click the right button😅
Muscle memory would have me doing the same. You get into a groove and then they change things
Four years of muscle memory of the rally button being the same place for trap….
The gather point button should be a "build" option rather than a button as it is
I just finished repairing the game and its still the same
They changed how to switch accounts a couple years back on the menu option, and i was ruined for a month. When they change button placement like this, it takes forever to learn new motions to work around it
Alliance gather point….not alliance farming but where to meet?
Yeah, basically Dameon. It's like saying "hey, everyone meet in this one spot for this thing" because map markers weren't enough?
And apparently you can "notify" or collect players to you, which... I haven't tried. Don't wanna annoy people more than I have in my alliance
Hi Aussiepara, that is definitely a weird location to place it, especially given all the other places it could have been put. I can see how it would lead to alot of misclicks / interrupt trap rallies. Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll forward it.
Thank you Liannin 😊 Maybe they need to change the wording to alliance meeting point to avoid confusion 🤷🏼♂️ or maybe I’m just being too literal 😆
I haven’t figured out how to delete it either…like is there a delete button 🤣
I think you just end up having to move it around? Idk.. I couldn't figure it out either, and just placed it in a central hive location for now as a neutral "holding" place.
No I feel the same way, because when I see gathering in this game, I assume it's for rss or mining.
"Alliance Meet" would even be acceptable, as an abbreviated form, because it gets the point across.
If they're going to correct it, though, it might be preferred to correct the placement of the button first so we aren't all accidentally clicking as R4/R5 (for those in that/those roles), and then fix the name
I wouldn't trust them to do both at the same time. Our devs lately have seemed like walking and chewing gum simultaneously might be a task
I notice that... but sometimes we still need to vent😅
And we're still waiting for our migo compensation
Idk how long that will take
just 5 years
At least 3 feedbacks submitted last 2 months
Nexus still bugged.. 1 alliance could take all lvl 5 and they should could take 1 only even if too strong..
Hi Honey, I agree - a confirmation message would (in this instance) help avoid unnecessary, unintended tagging. As for your second point, I have yet to notice that happening ingame, but can imagine it will be pretty annoying when it does happen. Dealing with randomly spawning resource tiles is already one inconvenience - adding those new buildings to that worsens it for sure. There should something that restricts where they can spawn, specifically to areas that were not recently occupied by a settlement. If that sort of patch is possible, it’d certainly help fix that issue imo. Thanks for the observations. I’ll forward them.
@merry scroll
whats this buggy event
click on map and will see which bug i mean..
each alliance could have road to 1 city lvl 5.. not all
dumb FP
after updating the game, first time you access your formations (marches) page, it displays an empty page. exit the page and trying to access it again, disconnects you from the game. another great update brought to you by sos
Well thats indeed sad, i would suggest leave game alone for few more minutes 
Let all catch files and extra data and everything download and then it should be fine 
not an option after 21 minutes. nexus begins

Doesn't work... Game is unplayable even after 1GB of rss
I have not managed to login whole day been busy been…..updating now fingers crossed
I stg if they patch during Nexus I will scream
during the update, enter in game evenif it isn't completelly updated.
That's always such a worry with updates, is when they're going to push patches and who is gonna be messed over for it.
At this point, Nexus is basically unplayable with the update.
You can't scroll out/in, making it useless to try and move around.

Stop updating, it's truly horrendous
Guess it's a good thing we're stuck at CP1 for now.
My nexus starts in few tooo……but hey guys i just a managed to load screen and everything
I didn't update the game
I just did some daily stuff working smooth
I'll probably have to adjust our strategy in Nexus as is it too laggy to do much of anything right now.
Don't update the game anymore. Devs are too dumb to make it easy to update with no bugs
Never mind my game went off and started updating something again 
5 days left this MIGO
Hehehe now i can say we. In this together 
Still wondering when we will receive our compensation of 3 Astro Coins...
And they better fix Tundra/Seasonal badges next season
That's just 1 of the 100 issues in this game... generation skip, gap too big, unfair matchmaking, hero challenges bug, behemoth trial taking too long, fake events like mystery mania...
Is there a reason this is even still an event in older states
It's not bad. You get rucksacks which can be useful
The rucksacks give us stamina, best event for rewards!
Ok put them in an event where the other 2/3 of rewards are useless
thank you for the great update again 🙏
seriously? It was really needed? 😑
You get stamina packs so don’t moan about it
deleting feedback reports, amazing. stop fu.. the game
Thanks for removing the feature of zooming in and out in the game map any longer. Very smart to spend more time reaching your target! Not fun to play at all
I never use those
So yeah I can moan..would rather have something of more worth like capsules
Not Travis frags
Ty devs I loved this like dislike feature. I just dislike everyone muahahhaha 😍
Is the alliance mining feature up?
The stamina ! Don’t touch my hunter bags
Yup, today nexus. Was burning in one hit 😒
So much fun in event when you cant even teleport anywhere outside of safe zone or one of the few whales will zero you within 10 seconds
I get that someone who spends ton of money will be way stronger than me, nothing against that.
It is just that difference is way too big. Either give us some tools to close the gap a little bit or rework battle engine in settlement defence and give bigger importance to troops difference. It just looks silly when 370k attacks 7 mln and easily wins.
You gotta have first march inside on wall. No chance after gen skip as joiners otherwise.
Are we getting a hot fix for the lag issue in nexus
Haha we can dream
I got kicked like four times or something
And at the end I absolutely had no idea about what's happening oj the map because I couldn't zoom out
100 biocaps and 10 skin tickets u mean?
It kinda was my first march, was not gen skipped (yet). The reason why it is mishmash from 3 generations is because there is no way to decently upgrade all 3 heroes unless you spend.
I don't expect compensation, just a patch to fix it
but u will have compensation, fix bugs is not in their ideas 🤣
Yea 1 per gen okay, but make it a similar type then, those 3 are blue, yellow and red team mixed from 3 gens? 🤔
even with all gen 18 at lvl 20 my first march was burned by a p15 😅
Everything we do in the Nexus, including getting burned, we could do in 2 days, 3 days at most, a lot of time dedicated to an event so bad that there isn't even matching
If it was less days then there would be more focus on winning checkpoints and level buildings..the amount of dead time In event has whales hunting and eating. Shorten it to make it more of a game and not a dinner table
Been saying this exact thing. Sorry but they made troops count irrelevant. That is complete crap that this many troops can't win against a 350k march
We were so excited to get the opposing garrison in our checkpoint down below 1mil with a rally. And then a bigger alliance came in. that was less exciting on account of the death toll.
But hey, it's points, and if us little guys keep getting locked into our checkpoints, we gotta get what we can before it closes permanently.
At least the reports make for good learning and discussion
God knows the event itself isn't good for much other than MIGO and feeding the krakens and whales.
But I do gotta know, what's so bad about having Nexus pools of alliances, like the 30m and below bp tiers, then 30-70, 70-100, etc, or whatever cutoffs would logically be?
i saw 10 millions troops in a hive be burned by p15...
They have for some reason adopted the principle that paying enough in itself should guarantee some wins.
It's crap. But that's what they're trying. Pay to win.
You pay, they ensure you just have to show up and send a march to win
The points for hq hit are still ridiculous asf yea
And that's why we arent so mad about being locked in, except that it means we can't hunt among our peers. We have multiple alliances comparable to us on our map and it would be great to actually battle with them.
We know we can't take out the big alliances, we don't want to. We just want to have fun with people like us.
The fact that we're always right next to one of the bigs, too, makes it hard. If we shared space with one of the smaller ones, we could have some good times. But for some reason, my little bitty alliance gets to try and keep alliances twice to three times our size and activity out of our one little building.
And our spending level
Good god
i think its made by the devs to not make fight big ones between themselves at start. Everything is made to disgust little alliances to play...
Oh I know exactly what it's purpose is and it's stupid
I like new Trap addition, anonymous rallies, you either luck out and join strong person or bad luck and get low points 🤣
No names which rally is started by who
same on my pc version
Trash update full of bugs
and even in state chat we cant see name 🤣
Where the nice bugs at🤣🤣 dm me pls if find one 🤣
But hey, we got thumbs up button so all is good 
I bet everyone was making ton of feedback about needing this
its a pity we cant vote on devs updates 😂
What's this feedback channel for? In the end, devs only followed what whales wanted.
why my message has been deleted 😠 ?
A whale crying can't beat other whales, devs gave them f2p alliance to bully
Even if you are next to an even alliance, you rarely get to keep that area.
The biggest alliance in our game pushed the middle alliances into our area and took our L5 and CP1
We had no choice but to take 2 CP1 from farm alliances or we would have been locked out entirely.
🤣🤣🤣
Nop, looks like it is not for Nexus, because there we dont have this button
One of the few events where it could be useful and it doesn't work there. Classic stuff!
🤣
Why the hell we even need it in state territory
Anyone know what this random blue square in the wilderness is supposed to be?
So, it's still mistery why we need this Alliance gethering points, which is just marker for any point
Ok, I understand
Use your alliance teleport. It will take you to the gather point.
It's one more marker
I'd rather use the existing ones since I can change the title.
You can put it anywhere, except Nexus🤣
It changes the functionality of alliance teleports. Previously you used it to go near r5 hq. Now it can lead where the coordinate is posted.
So they're giving you a few free teleports.
Cool
As r5 I like the idea of this. As r5 I hate the placement of the button
Alliance relocator working on it
I forgot when last time I used alliance relocator, frankly
It should work in nexus...dunno why they don't enable it there.
Same. Oh wait… never. I must have a million 😅
I think we tookit in alliance store
At least you will save relos
And it's just one there
🤣
Ok, forget it... but idea is good, was good... like 3 years ago good
maybe in 3 years they will think about matching, we can have hope 🤞
Aaa, no... I found 1 reloc in alliance store, then in market I can get up to 5 -10 per day advance relocators
What does this doing, in this case
I think it sends them a reminder, earlier when i log in i saw a message like your alliance is calling your presence to bla bla bla wanna go there now? And one or 2 buttons lol
Yes, found it... and we have this
But really, we get more advanced relocators then alliance relocators now days
Good idea but its too easy to miss click on this gathering point and then suddenly 100 members get a notification😂
😅 all those mails is insane.
Shshshshshsh they are capable to make them exclusive and hard to get if we say that
About the advance ports i mean*
This picture will show you all😂
Omg, move the stupid gather marker out of the rally spot for trap! 🤯
That gather marker has been put on our trap 10 times in 20 minutes, trap is muscle memory for us all, stop ruining it!
It would be an R4/R5 placing the marker on the trap
thats what happens when after 4 and half years devs replace “rally” button with this new gather port bs lol
Yeah I’m not a fan of it. I have accidentally set it about 5 times now myself 😂
They should just put it in the build menu instead
Or make it a selectable option for R4/R5 as a bookmark option
As usual players working as the brain on functional solutions for new features instead of devs themselves 😂
But the fact that there are 12 of us that button screws up trap for. Move it out of the “old” rally button spot is what we want
It’s gonna screw up capital clash for us too I’m sure
so yeah, 5 tasks left outstanding. 1 i will complete getting me to 7530 pts. The rest are p2w as far as im concerned, you cant mine enuf coal and concrete without additional mining slots or packs
Tundra level relate directly to mining so nope (im at 79 of 120!)
Exploration Centre where you absolutely have to buy pack in order to unlock all the skils. Without buying i managed to unlock 90/100 but no way i can get near the end
guess im feeding back what we all kinda know, but i appreciate you listening 🙂 im going to delibratly stop pushing in order to not get to something stupid like 7930pts and just miss out
I agree 💯. There is a feedback report for this as well located here #📋︱feedback-reporting message to upvote if you have not already
thanks, for what its worth ill upvote, but i cant ee it in the list?
I've found some suggestions for each problem. For each issue there are suggestions:
Problem 1: Generation skip
Solution: Give every victim of gen skip 2K custom capsules and 15K potions. That's enough to give a player 3 purple brain heroes.
Problem 2: Gap too big
Solution: Slow down the release of features. We understand that after some time there will be new features so if a new feature has to be released in the future, let it be a feature that is possible to upgrade F2P (e.g. hero gear/chief gear). That allows everyone to make progress.
Problem 3: Tundra and seasonal badges were ruined this MIGO
Solution: Give all players three Astro coins as compensation
Problem 4: Matchmaking
Solution: Match players based on alliance power or total migration rating
ee?
😂 see it hold on I will grab it again
ty got it
As of now, MIGO is the most urgent one so we should try to get developers to listen and compensate all players with 3 astro coins
i agree but after all this time in sos, i fear we know whats likely to happen (or not)
So far 6 feedbacks have been submitted last 2 months but we are still waiting for our compensation
they worked out that last time smart players were able to grind and get full points. This time they decided "not on my watch!"
Max tundra is lvl 120. No one expects to get there without spending...
If they put the astro coin at lvl 50 tundra, the bad conversion rate won't even be a problem...
But the bad conversion rate became a problem because the astro coin is at lvl 100, which means f2p won't be able to get there at all...
Therein the ruined event... and we are upset and need compensation😅
same as making boiler room lvl50
for lvl83 tundra you already need lvl42 boiler room lol
so what 2lvl tundra for 1lvl boiler room
boiler room requirement should be spreaded to lvl120 tundra too lol
impossible to upgrade both lol
any update on DS (monster event?) #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Let's upvote this
As for monster event we should have unlimited attempts to play as monster
By limiting the number of attempts matchmaking will take over 10 minutes and no one will play...
How's your MIGO, CR7?
will miss astro coin no way to get it this time 😂
Imagine if they stop milking the top .35% of players and make the game more affordable (5k a month instead of 50k) for a lot of people to get strong so that there's a lot of competition and a boost in revenue from more players feeling like spending actually does anything
true, spending on some packages is a drop in the ocean, happy are the whales who stopped playing before Behemoth, they stopped at the height of their time without needing to spend Elon Musk's inheritance monthly to remain competitive😂
Since the devs are likely already working on future content well advance of now, I would like it to be said that I don't think they should release Tier 13 in 2024, and should instead wait until Q1 or Q2 2025.
Just in case they were thinking about doing it this year. Don't.
Bad idea
Unless you spend 1k+ every day you're not going to stand a chance against max player
As for "Tier 13"... don't even think about it... T12 research is already a nightmare
Seems you don’t know the devs… bad ideas, that’s their motto.
No, I do, and that's why I'm stupidly hoping they might listen for once in their lives.
We both know they won't
Which will make the fallout even funnier
But remember that someone told them not to
I get this but let’s face it, none of these would happen. I think it’s time we accept the game just as it is and stop with the hopes.
More collabs will be released, more updates will be made and new events will be released.
They've already said they're going to release more collabs
I got that in writing thanks ever so
This is how it is. This is how it's always been. It was always going to become this amalgamation of stuff because that's how it was meant to be.
Don't be negative😅
People always want to say "this wasn't p2w to start" yes, it was. It always was.
We suffered enough from the ruined tundra/seasonal badge already
It's not funny
Someone laughing out loud doesn't mean they're laughing at you
I laugh out loud all the time
Only about half of it is actually at other people
But it will never happen.
So why are we all here in this feedback channel lmao
I've always been here
Just to vent?
I'm like a houseplant

Aiii leme enjoy my juice while I read everything 
Feedback and Liannin are like peanut butter and jelly
But like... government peanut butter
It’s actually intresting talks…..two different perspective
So the biggest problem right now is the ruined MIGO features and this should be fixed asap
I don't think it's that difficult
If you think the request above will be fulfilled, then I really dunno what to say.
Yup yup could not agree more…..if I wanna find liannin feedback discussion it is 
I would contend that the game is the biggest problem right now, but I guess we can get more specific
It won’t. Migo has ended. Don’t expect anything
I agree with what you want but I’m being realistic to know it will never happen
Either here or tag me.
I'm not talking about fixing it
They likely won't give Astro as comp anyway
Compensation is what you’re asking for
That won’t happen
Why not?
But I understand azayji point and I respect it……person like me would keep nagging for something to get sorted…..some look at it differently 
It was originally a “free game” with in app purchases. It’s now P2W but if you want to hang out and chat come in. Don’t expect any content of value though.
The devs don't have consistent values for items across the board, but Astro coins are something which generally do have a more fixed value in that they are highly sought after. People are willing to buy for them.
If anything, they would supplement with vouchers for mining resources and/or Glory for purchasing less valuable skins
- That will give most people the rewards. Someone like me I am on level 83 and will probably finish between 87-90 of the buildings and that’s cause I don’t want to spend, if they give a compensation, people like me will get everything and that’s not good for them
I've been playing for almost five years, please tell me more.
Some bug issues, or wrong things…..game have compensated……well not exactly what community asked for but something what they seem appropriate 
Where are all the Baddog cases going from the price cut helps in that event? Everytime I help I see the case go off to the bottom right, but there is none of them in my backpack???
Yeah I wondered that too, actually
In the original description of the game it was touted as “free” the ads pre pandemic also touted it as free with in app purchases.
I was being facetious
Spenders reached lvl 120 tundra a long time ago...
The cases automatically open
It's free to download, and yes, you can play for free, but you cannot win for free
Yeah. I didn’t spend on that cause I didn’t want to
Why is letting F2P get a single reward so unreasonable to you?
If you open your backpack after they go, you will see "new" items marked
How??
Only huge spenders. Even little whales had a hard time.
Azayji, what do you lose if we ask for compensation of three Astro coins to all players? You get them too, you know?
They're gonna see your request as unreasonable, Elizabeth, but go right ahead
As I said, I support your claim but it will never happen.
You will never get even 1 Astro coin
I just don't understand why I'm getting ridiculed when all I'm doing is asking developers to improve MIGO and let F2P get something after THREE MONTHS
They won’t give Astro coins, be prepared for some bios and pink gen frags 😂
No one is saying not to go for it or that we won't support, but we have been here long enough doing this long enough to know that you won't get what you want. Manage your expectations.
What kind of items? Not sure as I have already opened my pack after they went there.
Hey now those pink frags can be recycled in an event 
i have seen resources, march speed ups, bios, etc. nothing too crazy but some things
OK will keep an eye out for that then. Thanks HK
Your request is the issue. This game will NEVER give you a compensation for something like this. There was no wrong doing in the sense of game lag or being unable to play so there won’t be a compensation.
Never thought I would miss Kings Group 😂
And to say you're being ridiculed rather than advised is to self-victimize. You're not under attack here, but the people who have been here for years fighting for these things are trying to help you.
Making migo harder is not something they would give compensation for as you can do it WITH MONEY. They believe you need to spend and if you can’t, then get what the game gives for free and that’s that.

People need to stop looking for a way to bridge the gap as there is no sort of thing. Play the game and get what you can… if you spend, spend wisely. If you wanna be a whale, be a whale but don’t expect to be a f2p and get rewards or be close to whales… WILL NEVER HAPPEN
Look guys at this point mid spenders are spending less. Most of us have realized that spending massive amounts for ego boosts (top ranks) post pandemic is stupid at best. F2P just go along for the ride anymore and hope they can score decent rewards for free. Some of us keep playing because of friendships developed or we haven’t found something better. It is what it is
We are not asking to be close to whales
With the rewards you ask, you do. Three Astro coins?? That’s basically a good reward from migo… also(not you), but previously, people have asked for the gap to be bridged and asked for certain rewards
I could see them agreeing to one Astro coin and a handful of lesser items
But not three
3 astro coins isn't going to bring us even close to whales
Even 1 is a stretch
Can we agree to disagree in this situation? 
No but as a reward from migo, that’s a lot
Doesn't matter to the devs. You're literally asking them to dig into their own wallets the way they ask us to.
They assigned a value to Astro coins which is greater than what they generally hand out as comp. As Azayji said, even asking for one is a stretch, but if it's phrased well, it could be workable.
It's their fault ruining 2 features...
And I don't disagree at all
I agree to this
But they don’t care
That's the real kicker is that it was done with intention
Their intention is to suck and get money from us.
And now you're asking them to compensate you for the conditions they intentionally set with three high value items
If you want, you pay… if you don’t want, then don’t pay
Exactly. Will never happen
And again, I'm not saying you're wrong for asking for things, but I am saying that you'd do really well managing your expectations and remembering you're speaking to a corporation and not people.
Astro coins are one of the most important things/rewards in completing those tundra or reaching certain levels
people would care
That's the difference
people would have no problem seeing the same exact issues Elizabeth and so many others have reported and discussed, and they would say "yeah, okay, we tried this to make money and it isn't working so well. We can take this hit if it improves our satisfaction for later revenue."
These are not people
I believe if you want to raise a feedback or request, raise something more probable… there are TOO MANY IMPOSSIBLE requests from people and that’s a reason nothing gets done.
This is a corporate entity which makes video games specifically designed to generate large amounts of profit in short amounts of time.
Actually, putting them in the pearl store would do something.
Just make fun of their greedy grubby ways like I do lol #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Not bad but I’m sure if they do, they would add more stuff to the Astro shop and that will make things worse… they will never do anything to please us or benefit us
To explain why, it's because pearls are so intensionally tied to everything else, that people would see Astro as more achievable there. They would invest in things more often to get them pearls for Astro.
And if they make the minimal improvements they're considering to MIGO in terms of processing, it could improve the ability to get Astro in MIGO as well.
So it's two part revenue for them
Well this new migo wasn’t bad. I started off by saying I hate it when it was released but I think it’s better than the old one.
Elizabeth, I also feel you're being dramatic over constructive criticism. You're not under attack. We're literally helping you design better feedback.
You're not a victim.
Don’t give up. You can raise your concerns and give your opinion like the rest of us. Never know, you might the voice that gets through
No you are not being unreasonable by asking for an improvement. It’s the compensation or how you’re asking for what you want that’s the problem.
Also we know if they give you what they want, it won’t be exactly as you want as they will make tweaks to make it harder
No one is saying you're silly for wanting these things, just that it's important to manage how you're asking and what you're asking for in regards to the fact that this is a company whose only purpose is to profit
You can ask for things, and you can even get the things you ask for. It's about how you're doing it.
It needs to be said that not a single person is dumb or wrong for wanting things or desiring changes.
If people have been made to feel otherwise, that was unintentional. However, this company does not give things because they care, so talking to them is basically making one agreement for another.
What are you willing to compromise for what you want?
But lemme ask, were you able to get most things in the migo store?? @winter canyon
During this migo I mean
God I wasn't.
And I actually did stuff. Just didn't rank well as a f2p
Not as well as spenders of any level at least, or f2p in high rank alliances
How’s your migo store?? Did you get all the frames, HQ etc??
nope
I got myself one set, and I have a little change left over
Not even the good set
I did get the top set, but did not finish Tundra building. I did finish the badge that gives 300 island. At this point in the game it’s better to set 2-3 things to prioritize and ignore the rest. I bought a total of 5 499 bundles for the de icing and I probably could have gotten away with only 2 or so because of Nexus. My priorities right now are heroes, behemoth and aircraft, unless I see a pretty HQ that also helps stats lol
Thing is people will complain about everything. I too once said nexus is a great event if they can do the matching properly
Even if they give everyone 1000 diamonds monthly, people will still complain. It’s in our nature to complain or not be satisfied
I think many old players complain because we see how it started and where it’s at now. It’s become a blatant money grab without rhyme or reason
I agree. I am over 4years in the game. I have quit 3 accounts in old state and I agree with you. But there is nothing anyone can do now. Either take it as it is or stop playing it. Those are the only two options really.
Why are any of us?
I make complaint but I will never complain about certain things. I can complain about things promised to us that was not given, lags which affect gameplay/rewards, or events where the rewards were not given due to an error. But never about the price or gap or what people complain about.
I might say this game is expensive and things like that but not a direct complaint about them reducing or stopping or slowing down cause it’s never happening
This is mine. I am not even complaining. I mean a few bucks and I get 100/100 but I won’t. I don’t care
This is one of my account and the second is the same too. Just 2 levels behind and 6200 instead of 6700
Mine isn't even that close to 100🤣
Once you stop caring where you rank in most things, game becomes more enjoyable because you can laugh at the ridiculousness 😂
Yeah but I’m close and I don’t care if I reach or not. Not spending on it. I will get the 500 for the stage 3 after RR or maybe before RR, which will get me closer to 8k but I DONT CARE🤣🤣
Not sure I'll finish stage 3 either and not even remotely close to the 8k🤣
That doesn't mean others don't care
That’s fine. Then spend on getting it if you care
It’s that simple
If you care= spend
If you don’t= don’t spend
We are not happy with the ruined MIGO features... I think giving us three astro coins and then promising to fix those features the next MIGO is very reasonable
I don't see why it's a problem to you
Alright. If you say so.
So blocked players aren't blocked in alliance posts tab?
Honestly I will settle for them fixing the seasonal development and the lack of the stupid level 9 coal mines
Seems you didn’t read what we’ve been saying since. You wanna just feel like a victim. If till now you don’t get what we’ve been saying, then that’s fine and I’m done.
To be honest, I'm not even remotely bothered about the astro coins. All they need to fix is mining conversion rates cause tundra was impossible 😅
No one says it's a problem for them, Elizabeth, and you sound petulant. Being told that your request might be denied and being given reasons why isn't being ridiculed. You're not being lambasted or roasted here. No one is making fun of you.
Just like you're going to find when you go to college, sometimes people in a position of more knowledge than you might offer you constructive help in bettering yourself. If you can't handle it here, then you won't enjoy it there.
I have given up
I hate having to talk to people like they're my teenagers but if they're gonna act like it...
I'd prefer to speak like grown adults
She isn’t reading or understanding what we’re saying. Best to leave her to it
No, I feel like she is misunderstanding what she is receiving, thinking its people being mean instead of legitimately trying to help direct her feedback to something more manageable and achievable.
She doesn't want to hear why her feedback won't work, but she also doesn't want to hear what would work, because she's already deep in the belief that she's been told she's unreasonable.
Therefore anything we say won't matter.
Psychology is a pain sometimes
I completely understand why someone would feel that way, even if I would react differently. That said, empathy doesn't matter here because she's already convinced she is a victim of public ridicule rather than a contributor to public groupthink
Well said @vale yoke

No one tell my behavioral psychology advisor, he'll say I shouldn't have dropped out.
Let’s talk about hero challenges instead. Why is it anytime I have a good run in the top 3 right after reset beginning of the week, the game “glitches” for a couple weeks? Phantom mobs that won’t die, phantom mobs that kill my Ollie, game freezes ..etc etc lol
I dropped my ice cream 

That’s why I don’t want to talk about that again so it doesn’t sound like I’m being rude to her or anything
There's still gold cards which are bugged too, the devs have known about
Alarm card for one
Well , guys I need some advice 
What's up, Ni
You too Ni?
Bro… this gets me always so I have given up and decided to die quickly.
Saaaame.
Which skin is better in Pacific Rim ?
The cool one
Are you a rally lead??
Sky, atm ceiling 😂
Lol
That’s all I care about anymore, is it pretty?
Azayji asks a good qualifier. Lead or no, Ni?
Really and lead are two different words 😂
Well how strong are you??
Well I can left 50kg, that's how I am strong 
You found more ice cream??
In game you dog🤣🤣
Jk
Since this is starting to kinda delve less into a feedback chat and more into a game related, could this move to #🆘︱sos_discussion maybe?

I don't know what to do at this point...
In relation to what exactly??
Migo?? I have walked away from that conversation. Something else, feel free to ask
Let's not talk about migo... there is no way I can agree with any of you on that matter
What state do you actually play in?? @winter canyon
I play in 676
No, you pushed me and I dropped it, gimme new 
Oh not far from my state that I quit. 652
But you wanted to ask something tho… shoot
I've taken some time to calm myself down
I did blow up earlier and I'm sorry for that... I just want to say this is difficult for me and maybe I'm being annoying and venting too much... but I only want this game to get better...
Unfortunately it won't, it's only progressively gotten worse, since roughly the first anniversary event. On a plus note, I finally uninstalled it. 🙂
Would 3 Astro coins turn that frown upside down
Uninstalling won’t stop you..you need to delete the account
I delete the game 3 times a week
When I finally give up I’ll delete the account
Nah it'll stop me. At least for about 6 months to a year, done it once before😂
You’re better then me 😂😂
Anyone know how to get rid of these damn alliance gather points?
Was easier this time around considering they keep forcing me into 14utc for every event, which is a time I can't play
That happened to me…we didn’t even pick 14..did a ticket they responded and closed it in 2 seconds..fastest one ever
I also have my own rule where if a game stops being fun I stop playing... this can't even be classified a game anymore, just a menu simulator, gambling simulator. Most of the gameplay is tapping through the horrible buggy UI😂
Yeah definitely not the game I started
I think I just stay on to annoy people now
And call whales whale 💩 in nexus chat
Yes!
Same, I have “quit” 3 times. lol
We need a support group like Alcoholics Anonymous
I quit for a few days when generation skip happened... I don't understand why I reinstalled the game
sips in awkward silence
I uninstalled it once
But then reinstalled it right after because I wasn't uninstalling to quit in the first place
Gonna go think about some things.
Not ready to be done yet. Getting a little closer with each collab though.
Reminder for the devs. You set prizes in a collab that are acheiveable for all. They don't have to be super good but they should not be basic resources either. You have additional prizes for paid customers.
What you do NOT have is the equivalent of absolutely nothing for f2p and everything for spenders. If you are doing that, charge for your game.
I have 1 frag for behemoth skin from this event..feeling blessed
You got lucky on the 1 spin they deigned to give us so far? Going to get 10 more, then who knows. They can't be bought
Thing is, I knew what was gonna happen in this game when I downloaded it. All of these things end up the same, it's just a matter of time, but most of these even follow similar development and release patterns.
So I'm probably not gonna quit for a good long while, tbh, and they know it. Have told my alliance they aren't beholden to staying, because many of them are getting fed up. One of our main rally leads crashes multiple times in events, to the point she just gives up on trying to log in. I can't blame her
The collab is just another cash haul for the devs... I guess even asking for 1 of the 3 skins is too much🤣
But whatever I guess... I'll just take whatever number of formation crate I can afford with the few free cubes I can get...
so the music thing says rock to your favourite tracks, but no Thunderstruck, Another one bites the dust , Fire or even 99 red balloons
I have the sound off when playing the game... and I never checked mansion
I never open the sound of a game. So I guess this new feature is not for me.😂
You want them spending their profits paying out royalties? 🫡
Ai mashups is all we prolly get.
then they shouldnt have said favourite tracks
It's the same concept as skins, sentinels, towers, decorations...aesthetics.
You don't get your favorite there either, just a pick from the catalogue they put out. 🤷🏽♂️
It's funny to me how they diversify revenue streams between this and hyper-casual games.
I would love for them to pay out royalties and residuals for actual music. I'm petty like that
They would really do that?
Meanwhile, suno getting sued for all the training data
Maybe they could get Mod Sun to write another theme song instead of the players doing it this time
I'm sure partnering with SoS was great for his career the first time around

Got paid in rss? 🤣
maps
While being told to give up all artistic license rights over the material?
And speeds
I'm sure he got a lovely sterling silver Biocap necklace, wallet, and art book out of it.
Who?
I'm sure the industry recognition will make up for it.
Hey look, free labor
It's this musician who did one of the theme songs for this game. Look up Mod Sun on YT
Song is called "No Escape"
It's on the official sos YT
The video... Chefs kiss
So much blacklight paint
The auto tune is something else, but it's actually catchy
Exposure is totally valuable. Look at all those freelancers who made it big doing free stuff for companies. Oh wait, its none of them
babbles in corporate
Yes, the opportunity to exposure is very important. But it's not guarantee to success.
Mod Sun actually was pretty successful but didn't super take off. Idk what's been up since this partnership, but it likely didn't hurt him in anyway tbh
... yeah, thats not the same as being paid in exposure
Can't buy dinner with exposure. Or fill my car up. Only thing you can do with exposure is get arrested. And thats a differe t sort of exposure 🤣
Some people even pay a lot to be exposed.
Me too. 🤣
Lol
oh come on it's really annoying
That new Alliance gather thing 😒
New update? What did they release this time?
With a company that busts efforts from players to improve things for players? Ha. Less an opportunity, more exploitation.
But somehow doubtful volunteer mod team will get this. 
Not even God knows
This is just ridiculous and needs to be removed from the game immediately.\
I'll make a guess... Scorpion King
We all keep accidentally clicking it and don't know how to make them go away
It's where the alliance relocator will take everyone instead of to the r5
Mines currently a metal tile 😂
Not a bad feature I guess... could save us an advanced relocator sometimes...
omg they are adding such useless, but also annoying features 😄 did they hire too many people who have nothing better to do than annoy the playerbase 😄
But for the Dig Dog? And in Trap, it moved the rally button over. I am old! I have my muscle memory down! We must have had 20 different hits of it today during trap. Pain in the butt.
"We will put this new useless gathering icon in the place of the previously most used buttons on the quick select menus.... and then spam everyone with it"
someone said just put a normal alliance marker on the same spot to replace it, then you remove that one instead😅
I'll try that
There's too much in this game that makes me unhappy...
Like how they ruined Tundra and Seasonal Badges... I get upset whenever I think about it
"we will make the chat window even smaller so you have to scroll all the time in it to follow the conversation"
It worked. Thanks!
Half of the chat window bro
😄
who saw this and thought it was a good idea in design
Generation skip, fake events (like mystery mania), unfair matchmaking... there are ways to fix all of these problems, but we are still waiting...
I'm not usually patient, but what can we even do?
I despair, these guys are clueless, really. If I needed to make a class to teach how not to design stuff, then this game would be a prime example
Mansion feature, SOS designer dudes, you flood us with so many events, we don't have time to go chill and listen to music in a pointless mansion with our buddies.... what planet are you on
Everything about the gui in this game is poor. They even moved the event menus to be worse for right handed people. I'm used to it now but its still bad.
I have not stopped laughing, reading your posts.. 🤣🤣🤣
This game does have one good use. It can be used as a bad example
this lag is killing me, i mean it's killing my troops. nexus was bad after the update, then they had a mini update and everything is even slower now
So, I left Nexus, doing my dailies, troop training help for alliance members-then wham I have ported back to nexus?
Tap Wilderness to get out of alliance members settlement and it tells me I can’t leave nexus as I am in a cooldown? Lmao.
So switch the game of reset, log back on, bam I am in nexus.
So since the last dumb update we have more issues?
I think the Devs got their instructions on building a game from a wheeties box.
What is Alliance gather point? We have tags everywhere and cannot delete?
You can only set one Alliance gather point. When you set a new one, the old one deleted automatically.
yup, this one got me too.
What is the point of it?
other than annoying us, i don't know what it would be used for
I don't know. I haven't find the reason of this feature yet. It seems to me same with alliance marks.
Yes exactly why do we need more
maybe, and i am not nearly flexible enough for this stretch, maybe it could be used to show availability in high level mines
So much new stuff and the broken game is still broken.
I don’t even recognise the game anymore
i still haven't even played the desert mini game
The alliance post looks like the worst implementation of a pinned message I've ever seen
Stay away it’s awful
LETS MAKE IT REAAALLLY BIG AND INTRUSIVE! GREAT IDEA!
Lmao it is the worst, I mean how many chats do you need.
We use alliance chat or state chat the others are blank
Some said you can use an alliance relocator to move to the new alliance gather point like you could to your R5
Thats what its meant to be for yes
Oh, they change the alliance relocator. It's not porting to the alliance hq but the gather point now.
i just used a stopwatch. It took 11 seconds for the wilderness inside the nexus to load on the pc version.
To save relos .. if your alliance needs to go to say Capitol, you set the marker and they can relo using alliance relis not advanced
But leader Relos do the same thing
So why have them on search, trap etc? Still makes no sense? This feature was not broken?
Tags are easy to use and delete?
I am going to make my r4s put it on my spot at the hive so i can relocate using an alliance relocator instead of an advanced relocator
The lotto task board to earn coins has disappeared after doing only a few of the task for everyone?
i didn't have that at all this time
Was on the left under store now gone
oh that, yeah, mine is still there
Added an Alliance gather point feature and changed Alliance Relocation to relocate around the gather point.



