#📋︱feedback-discussion

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winter canyon
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I hope they will listen to our last feedback and compensate us with 3 astro coins

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Nothing else can be done...

still tapir
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Also with this being said I’m sure the devs will go back to the drawing board to reduce the glory rewards. Can’t have people getting those skins. 🤣

winter canyon
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Why? I don't see how 1 or even 10 extra skin will bring F2P to 50+ collection

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We are not even collector 40

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Max players are above 80 and some even reached 90

sinful nimbus
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I've been farming almost only coal the entire season and it's imposible reach the max level without spending a lot

steel musk
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@merry scroll
migo this time was bad.. impossible complete tundra.. becuase mines give low rewards..

are Devs going to make it better next migo? and make it as last migo? or they greedy and wont do that?

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here we go Excited

still tapir
still tapir
winter canyon
slow thicket
sinful nimbus
winter canyon
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And that requires 45 boiler room so I doubt you will get there even if you gather mines because it's not enough

still tapir
sinful nimbus
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I need to be possitive🥲

winter canyon
misty pewter
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Share music? I really wonder what this game will become? Dr Yamazaki cures the zombies and we live happily ever after? 😂

wide wraith
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so this so called update is going to add music, most people have the sound off so whats the point and how have they got around the rights issue ???

still tapir
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But I’m telling now we will be fighting zombies in space 😂

misty pewter
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My question is are they paying for copyrights? Or will this be the new pirate bay? 🤣

wide wraith
misty pewter
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I need a drive in cinema on the island where we can watch the latest movies 😂

sinful nimbus
misty pewter
sinful nimbus
wide wraith
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as for this "Strategic Deployment" as if they dont want us spending enough time on the game, what are they going to get rid of, Throwdown, or better still Pacific Rim

worldly sable
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Omg my concrete is locked inside the V and I can’t renew 🥹

winter canyon
wide wraith
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oh were we supposed to mine coal, I gave up that weeks ago

worldly sable
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Yes

winter canyon
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So how can you buy the pass and still be f2p?

sinful nimbus
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Maybe is a gift😅

winter canyon
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MaybeA_a_froggo_think_ggSOSCAFE

worldly sable
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My husband buys, I'm f2p

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Kidding, no husband 🥹

bitter bane
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MAKE MORE MONSTER IN DS EVENT

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how could they ruin a such a good event

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😩

cosmic tulip
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Really playing our favourite jam in our mansion for our visitors. Who actually plays with the sound on?!? This game has lost the plot

cloud ridge
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They fixing the real issues

white lynx
bitter bane
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finally it was something everyone could play, horrible that they ask to get paid for monsters 😒

distant gull
white lynx
distant gull
bitter bane
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Let's consider the numbers:

  • Assume there are 100,000 players participating in the event.
  • Each player is expected to play 60 games.
  • This results in a total of ( 100,000 \times 60 = 6,000,000 ) games.

Given the format of 4 humans against 1 monster, each game requires 1 monster.

  • If players only have 2 opportunities to play as the monster, then each player can play a monster in ( 100,000 \times 2 = 200,000 ) games.

Thus, the total number of games that can be played with available monsters is 200,000.

To meet the demand for 6,000,000 games, the number of players playing as monsters would need to be recalculated. If each player needs to play 30 games as a monster to balance the matches:

  • Total required monster games: 6,000,000
  • Games per player as a monster: 30
  • Required number of players playing as monsters: ( 6,000,000 \div 30 = 200,000 )

Therefore, you would need 200,000 players to play as monsters 30 times each to fill the required games. This clearly shows the imbalance and highlights the necessity for changes.

So you would need more players too play the event, that plays it, and they would have too pay for it. it's like the King of the hill HQ dragon skin all over where we was suppose too play for 14 Years (before they fixxed the price) #📋︱feedback-reporting message

wide wraith
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simple answer is dont play the stupid event, let it die in a fire

bitter bane
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No this event was perfect in the first two days

wide wraith
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hmmm i must have played a different version, i found in boring and over long

bitter bane
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Pow is a pay to win event

wide wraith
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ahhh thats why then

bitter bane
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I wish someone at the developers' headquarters had an economics degree

wide wraith
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wait aren't all events pay to win these days

slow thicket
north moss
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Hi everyone!
I definitely agree with you about the event. I personally stop playing it. I didn't like it either omg

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Speaking of feedbacks ,may I ask how's your state's doing lately?

Mine is inactive and we are waiting/hoping for a merge to happen because with every state transfer we lose people who go to more actives states. SAD

bitter bane
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dying game

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summer and christmas is the worst, more and more quit, every year.

north moss
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That's true unfortunately,many players keep quitting the game due to real life.

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I have made a lot of posts about this. If you want I can submit one for you also. bear_mm

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I hope that your states will get merged soon. It will bring some new activity even if that's temporary

bitter bane
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You can post this if you want?

Observation:
The current trend of adding numerous events for earning points in activities like Migo has led to an overwhelming number of events. This continuous addition puts excessive pressure on players, especially high-level players and whales. If these players do not participate in every event, it negatively impacts the morale within their alliances.

Consequence:
The excessive number of events leads to player fatigue and decreased morale, as players feel obligated to participate constantly. In the past, we only had a few key events such as Underground, SvS, RR, Migo, and CC. Now, the sheer number of events is significantly higher, making it difficult to maintain enthusiasm and participation levels.

Suggested Solution:
Consider reducing the number of events or spacing them out more evenly to alleviate the pressure on players. This will help maintain a balanced and enjoyable gaming experience, ensuring that players remain engaged and motivated.

State number:
965 - B2B Bus

Additional Note:
I wish someone at the developers' headquarters had an economics degree to better understand the impact of these changes on player engagement and game balance.

bitter bane
north moss
north moss
north moss
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On my wayyy bun_run

vivid hawk
weak ingot
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Oh no we accidentally got 3/4 coins needed for a skin 😂

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Those 50 collection points to look pretty is too much

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We might shocked make progress

vivid hawk
weak ingot
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Even if i used them on actual stats

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I need like 50 coins to EVEN make a dent in stats

vivid hawk
hollow pebble
stable cosmos
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Doubt theres stats on it but i would be amazed if alliance hall and mansion had more than 100 people in them daily. Minus doing an alliance hall event. Just being in there casually. Its not happening

normal peak
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Yeah why are they pushing the mansion so hard for? I do t even think I looked in mine at all

slow thicket
weak ingot
vale yoke
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Prolly don't wanna sink what they put into payroll by scrapping it, so instead they're gonna keep pushing it until we grudgingly accept it and contribute.

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We basically already did that when island was released, so it's not like they'd be wrong

normal peak
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So like nexus lol

winter canyon
stable cosmos
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I don't think anyone really contributed to island. Just filled it up with all the decoration junk they've made important

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I visit my island only when I'm upgrading something. Which is infrequent now

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F2p are not allowed to improve. Ever.

winter canyon
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Yeah, but in terms of collection level we are not even half of max player

stable cosmos
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Although i did bounce a p12s main march off a mine in AH yesterday as a p10 so that was fun

vale yoke
# normal peak So like nexus lol

Nexus, like a few other events/features, is something that I think could be salvageable if it was reworked the way players agree would benefit the most of us. I also think having it for every world event is a big mistake, or at least so frequently within a world event.
They clearly wouldn't see the long term value in doing something like that, and since they don't wanna give me my dev chat, I won't go into details.

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Don't want the listening walls coming back with something approaching a good idea

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Dude, Elizabeth, you would be so proud of me

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My completely f2p is collector 15 😅

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Felt

wide wraith
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hats bad if Nexus is the only good thing

vale yoke
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I think what bothers me the most about this game, but mostly the company developing it, is not just how much of a cashgrab it is and has been - only to get worse over time - but how illogical and inefficient everything is within it. From the copy and paste development path to the actual events and features themselves, everything is just so poorly managed and designed, and they just don't seem to care that they could actually be doing way better and have less issues with their customer base by improving it and listening to us as we say things - not as they hear them.

normal peak
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Or Valentine’s Day in June

winter canyon
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Generation skip happened 8 months ago. They did nothing to help us...

normal peak
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New years in August

winter canyon
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Not even 1 capsule or 1 potion...

vale yoke
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And watch it happen again to someone else

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And again

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And again

wide wraith
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they have no idea about the game, they think that everyone having access to the same heroes makes it fair, they forget that older states had longer to grow

winter canyon
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They are ruining more and more states with their generation skips... next time it will be 7 generations

vale yoke
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Nah, I think it will always be 6 unless an opportunity comes to make it 8 by affecting their schedule

wide wraith
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they will say its only 4 because there is no way to get gen 13 or 14 anymore

winter canyon
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500s skipped 13-15
600s skipped 13-16
700s skipped 13-17
800s skipped 13-18
Next will be 13-19

vale yoke
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But six gens guarantees them a few things about what people will be buying, doing, etc to try and stay competitive and relevant. 8 gens is an additional worthless two gens, which only makes them a little money

normal peak
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500s just skipped 13

wide wraith
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but they could at least get capsules for 13, in the 700s and 800s we cant

sullen cape
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Imagine they removed 100 hours from the boost store, and now they reduced just one attempt at desert survival and you talking about Astro coin to give it to F2P 😂

pallid willow
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If y’all keep discussing it they gonna make it trash and nobody will get enough gloryshocked_froggie shocked_froggie shocked_froggie

winter canyon
pallid willow
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That’s y’all tho🤣🤣

sullen cape
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Nothing , it’s became impossible to get it now just forget about it. Hopefully nexus/ glory help a lot of people to get skins , but trust me they will change it next migo or they will reduce glory lol

pallid willow
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Y’all discuss things we like, everytime that happens they nerf it asf

wide wraith
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still its maintenance tomorrow, so free stuff when they overrun again

winter canyon
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Well, I guess I ranted enough😅
Back to enjoying my vacationCZ_Pepeleave

jovial vigil
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Hey, Awesome idea to reduce the number of monster attempts by 2/3.... Perfect way to make a new event that you worked on more fluid and engaging

sleek sparrow
daring sapphire
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Guys, Pacific rim drop rates are crazy good

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(my first roll)

keen burrow
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Lets asume my contribution is average. Anyone out there who believes my state have 4000+ accounts scoring points? 🤓🤣

dusk wren
stable cosmos
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Or its game wide and they don't make it clear

shut plinth
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Devs will never make the game more equitable or even think about it when guys have already bought enough packs to max out all three new skins. What happened to the days of working to build up your settlement and using strategy. Game is for the rich now and only the rich. Just my bank account is bigger than your bank account players. Don’t these players understand the negative impact on the game when they just buy their way to being maxed out?
Think it’s time to stop hoping that things will change and delete this game for good.

shut plinth
charred swift
daring sapphire
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Yes. As a f2p, it looks doable

wide wraith
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so in 857, this is what the Devs have decided is fair, @merry scroll please ask the Devs how this is supposed to be fun, and what planet they are on, with the so-called Matching

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in 759 this is the idea of Dev Fair matching

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how it that fair????

weak ingot
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Shadowlord, what’s the lethality difference between y’all if i may ask?

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I’m noticing that the old rule of thumb i had for massacring is no longer accurate

wide wraith
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actually not that bad but its the morale that is the killer

weak ingot
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Morale doesn’t stack more

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My old rule of thumb was every 100% difference between stats was 2x the amount of troops killed, but those numbers for my hits would have meant that they would have soloed 10.5 million and i had 7.5 and they didn’t burn me first hit

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So i was looking to revise it, and my current hypothesis was every 100% is closer to 1.5-1.75 nowadays

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Just due to stat inflation

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Which if that is the case, is really good news because that means that as stats get inflated, the amount of stats the whales spend on becomes more and more worthless in big battles

daring sapphire
wide wraith
daring sapphire
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I'm sorry if you were expecting fun and engaging gameplay, Nexus is about being a whale and hoping that there won't be any bigger whales

daring sapphire
wide wraith
daring sapphire
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That's a topic for a different time 😊

wide wraith
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true

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in the end its a game, not fun when the Devs have no idea of matching, but its a game, not real life

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but they need to stop saying they events are fun

vernal moss
# wide wraith how it that fair????

This really is quite a problem. Very unfortunate for you to match these players. Do you have whales in your state / alliance that either do or at least, used to be top tier spenders? I notice a pattern in these matchmaking issues where it’s whales put with “potential” whales, an algorithm to entice or exploit the aggression of our emotions to spend a lot / more.

wide wraith
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a few in the state but not in the alliance

vernal moss
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It’s definitely worth keeping in mind this pattern. This is one of the top players if I recall correctly too. There’s absolutely no chance of beating this player unless you have top players too.

wide wraith
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to be honest i dont really care, except for the morale when i looked at the stats there was only a few 100 difference

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and some of my statues were higher

vernal moss
vernal moss
wide wraith
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i used to get angry but no point, just take the positive scraps

vernal moss
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I try to put minimal effort in to get the most rewards, even if I miss some I’m not wasting additional materials or time to get one or two milestones. 😅

visual frigate
cloud ridge
untold stag
lean leaf
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Shhhh all enough complaining about event bugs and issues and never coming “improvements” to nexus or tbh any years long events, lets just go and enjoy soooooo asked by many music player in mansions

stable cosmos
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Don't have a mansion yet. Not vip10. I'm curious what the music is. Does it have a preselected list of free license stuff? Are they leeching out of spotify? Have they paid licenses for any popular songs and are wasting money?

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I think there would be legal repercussions for allowing music on your device to be played through the app to an audience. Its not the same thing as having a house party etc

misty pewter
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Survivatify…. 📻🤣

wide wraith
unreal lichen
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It would be great if we could exchange statue permits or bonus statues for different ones by paying 1k-10k bios, as both items cannot be recycled and feel useless once maxed out.

olive vessel
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game is trash

wooden dew
unreal lichen
wooden dew
wide wraith
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as it maintenance later i wonder if the CMs will actually answer some questions, like whats the point of PTR when they give out all thats needed to max things, and have no idea how it will affect normal players, or where is the fun in Nexus when a player is reduced to less that a behemoth march so they cant even collect from the mines???

civic star
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Those are really Good questions shadow, I dearly hope we do get answers for them. Please check dm.

forest kiln
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Just WHO, WHO are that people who came up with this 💩 🤣

civic star
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I have rough idea BearLaughing

weak ingot
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Shhhh

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Tell them to keep doing it

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The more useless features they crank out, the less money they’re extorting 😂

stable cosmos
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I wonder if anyone is actively paying for that tosh

vague shard
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Sound off was first setting to use in game

forest kiln
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I just see next we will see "secret" Tinder menu activated with 10K $ in that mansion and possibility to exchange "private" pictures ... 5$ each

unreal lichen
forest kiln
rocky otter
raw breach
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I bet the new developers used to develop some sort of my little Mansion game

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Now they bring this trash here

vague shard
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Will be impossible to fix the gap.
Fun when our small alliance held city 5 yesterday, managed to take rallies from our neighbor. But then big neighbor from other side came and solo us out of city after they where done with their city 5.
1 solo on a full building should never win

stable cosmos
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The gap is actually fixable to some extent but it requires a shift in logic that they can't do.
Step 1. Next gen of heroes are a TINY amount more powerful than the previous gen.
Step 2: give people enough stuff to actually max out older gens, minus the syringes
Step 3: let f2p max out, minus the stabilisers both behemoths and bring in a new one that is barely more powerful than the previous 2
Step4: follow this for 3 more hero gens and 1 more behemoth.

Gap isn't actually shut, and it shouldn't be, paying deserves to be in front, but paying shouldn't also steamroll the game. If you want that to happen just let people type iddqd in chat and go mad

wide wraith
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there will always be a gap between f2p and spenders but it should be bridgeable in a reasonable amount of time but the management here don't want that because there would be no incentive to spend

raw breach
stable cosmos
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I wouldn't say bridgeable. That implies that we catch up. I don't believe we should ever catch up unless a spender stops spending.

But if we play the game as it should be with time instead of money spenders should bounce of an hq more than once and at most a double rally should be needed to kick anyone.

wide wraith
stable cosmos
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Oh, and let decorations be simple decorations ffs. If they have to do ANYTHING then let them provide a tiny bonus to rss production...

forest kiln
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Make new hero gens release at least every 9-12 months than every 2.5 months will be more convenient... with all this new stuff which they pushing every month

cursive vessel
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Yeah, I don't understand why we need new heroes every 3 months, got more heroes than we can do anything with

stable cosmos
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Thats part of them sucking at revenue flow. Whole thing works on big lump sums

unreal lichen
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They can't slow down because they profit from big spenders. But if they ignore player feedback about the game's imbalance, players will eventually leave for another game

vague shard
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New heroes every season is ok. But then let it be really easy to get fragments for old generations

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Daily intels should give 1-3 generations old fragments, not purple crap that has been maxed for 3.5 years

wide wraith
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its the gen skip that killed a lot of that, but when you are up against resonating heroes that even as a low spender you had no chance of getting it makes you wonder why bother with certain events well any pvp to be honest

forest kiln
stable cosmos
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Its fiiine. More legendary and epic badges in all forms of rewards will solve it. Btw legendary frags which only work on skills and grant no points are worth 90000 currency in places outstripping everything else

wide wraith
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they should turn legendary frags into a general purpose capsule

unreal lichen
forest kiln
lucid yew
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Power play and operation festival give some points, thats where i use the general gold frags, haven't found a better use for them

forest kiln
unreal lichen
wide wraith
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in one game i played the more advance you were you actually played with the same level so if you paid anything you would be against players with the same things but their was no gen skip and you could, given time catch those who spent, but that company believed in looking after the f2p

lucid yew
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The game has too much stuff to really have equal matchups imo, if its not the rally leads, people then complain about the sheer bp difference or member amount. They could do better for sure, but understandably its hard. A single collector 85+ player can win even svs with just a few good joiners

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If matched for example against 5 collector 80 leads

vague shard
wide wraith
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just a simple question at this point, with the game in maintenance, why are the CMs not involved in this chat

misty pewter
wide wraith
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just wait for all the copyright claims to come in

vagrant lance
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My first post here in a very long time. Some facts: Slowing down will never happen. Bridging the gap will never happen. Spending opportunities will only get faster as the game is dying. RNG is here to stay.

The only thing people can do is decide if they continue to play the game as they do now (pay, free-to-play, etc) or change it or quit.

normal peak
normal peak
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🤭

stable cosmos
thorny plume
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Question, what happends to auctions during downtime?

visual frigate
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Perhaps a rap about moneygrabbing developers in a game might be appropriate?

thorny plume
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I mean, sortoff stupid isnt it if a high priced item goes down at the middle of downtime?

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Wheres my bidding war 🤐?

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That would be i dunno, incredibly stupid. We are talking about items sold for ingame currency in the 500-1000 euro range and funplus doesnt really bother to freeze auctions during downtime ? Or how is this done ?

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@merry scroll

cosmic tulip
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New chat, 👍 👎 element it would be nice to see who actually did it.

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Oh leadership chat needs a red dot when a new comment is added

rapid phoenix
rapid phoenix
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You're welcome anytime 💓

jovial vigil
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The new features in chat make it extremely laggy

thorny plume
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Glad you could answer that question about the new red dot. What about my question, gonna ignore it?

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How can I petition to have the sale cancelled ? Auctions ending during a unexpected downtime is a huge L as good items often end in bidding wars when the right people have bid. I got robbed for that now twice

marble grove
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Love being baited on nearly every line when ghost line had 4 since beginning

normal peak
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Ton of chips for 15 pearls

unreal lichen
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anyway i don't like quote UI 😂

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Quote should be on top and bottom is player comment

rapid phoenix
rapid phoenix
# thorny plume Glad you could answer that question about the new red dot. What about my questio...

Sooo technically the item will not get bids as no one could enter the game so if you're referring to that your item in action has ended when the server was in a downtime 🤔 i think it would definitely be a great idea doing a feedback report so the auction duration freezes in that time. to improve the system I suggest to report it here #📋︱feedback-reporting using that format #📋︱feedback-how-to and I can write it for you if you'd like

thorny plume
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Sure, but would be good if i got some sort of sensible way to also petition it as the last 20 minuts of auctions are potentially quite profitable for the seller.

This item could realisticly be sold for atleast 20 - 25k more.
And that i got robbed out of.

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Ill bother making a feedback if I get good response on my petition, so likely not.
Otherwise its just something I can abuse, two good exploits found in 2 months isnt bad 🤷 THAT can also be my compansation

stable cosmos
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Bid low just as maintenance is about to go live and win a good item for cheap?

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If thats the plan, please do. Anything that makes f---plus lose out

thorny plume
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Yes seems like thats a new market strategy Ill follow

rapid phoenix
stable cosmos
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They won't do anything. Will be more likely to pointlessly cite the auction tos

plush blaze
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Players on old graphics mode cant see half of the new update so nice job

stable cosmos
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What am i missing? I hate new gfx mode and refuse to use it.

thorny plume
cosmic tulip
viscid ore
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it's not of much use if we can't see who interacted with!!

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it could have been useful to take adhesions for RR, like thumb high for L1 and thumb low for L2

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but if we can't see who interacts with the post alliance it's practically useless

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In my opinion ofc

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and obviously the usual bug could not be missing

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no one in my alliance can write an alliance post because we are all so fast, lol

magic anchor
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it seems there is a 1 hour cooldown on alliance post.... its just too long for a communication channel..

stable cosmos
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Poorly implemented idea invented without learning what it would be useful for. Just chucked in, no thought at all

viscid ore
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and then this story of being able to ban whoever even for the most idiotic things is really absurd!!

winter canyon
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I don't even have 1% of the moralshocked_froggie

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I think it's time for devs to listen to our feedback and give all players 3 astro coins as compensation. Give us our astro coins and we will ignore all the bad things that happened this MIGOhlop

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We are waitingBlushFrog

normal peak
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Stop with the Astro coins..they won’t give it

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They will give 5 skin tickets like they always do

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Or better yet they won’t give anything like 90% of the time

winter canyon
vale yoke
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What is Astro going to logically fix, though?

normal peak
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The only thing really bad was the mining and the conversion rate..the rest was the same. And to be honest not getting tundra house to 100 is t making or breaking the game. Nexus was a fail but like you said the honor merits were good. But other then that Migo is same as always long and drawn out

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It’s all temp stats anyway

forest kiln
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🤣

tardy night
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So a 219 MB + 111 MB + 872 MB update just shipped.

What's in it that warrants this size?

normal peak
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Migo is a scam..they found a way for people to keep paying for same stat bonuses every 3 months lol

winter canyon
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Seasonal badge is nothing but a TRAGEDY
Tundra is nothing but a TRAGEDY (i agree that bad conversaion rate is a factor here)
And I'm being unreasonable asking for compensation?

normal peak
winter canyon
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We got nothing except for Glory... and Nexus is the best thing that happened this MIGO. How funny is that

forest kiln
tardy night
normal peak
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😂

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Devs installed it..can be anything

tardy night
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Doubt they're even 128 kbps streams

winter canyon
vale yoke
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You asked for three Astro coins. What's three Astro coins as comp for one MIGO season really going to do for f2p? I'm sure it benefits you, but I have no use for something that only allows me to buy limited things, none of which actually positively contribute to my f2p status over a long period of time.

forest kiln
vale yoke
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I mean, I already have the everlasting bonfire on all three accounts. The hq skins are worthless to me as I have very little to accompany them, meaning they don't positively contribute to my stats unless I get all of them, the tempest arms are heavily reliant on the same RNG as the actual mechanic...
I mean, nothing here is actually fully good for a regular f2p.

winter canyon
vale yoke
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It doesn't give me what I want or need as an f2p player and only stands to make me weaker in the long run by having incomplete collections hanging around.

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Would rather Glory than Astro

winter canyon
vale yoke
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I don't think you're unreasonable, Elizabeth. I think you're thinking about what would benefit you as a player, and Astro would. But it wouldn't benefit the normal f2p as much as it would someone in your position.

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Remember, you have the benefit of a supportive and big alliance to help you. Many of us have smaller alliances

cloud ridge
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To join others, this is awful and not tested

winter canyon
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3 Astro coins are worth 360 migo glory

vale yoke
#

But you have more available to contribute directly in an impactful way through Glory than with Astro. And for an f2p, we need to be completing collections in order to have that impact. We can't complete collections with Astro.

winter canyon
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You can get a MIGO HQ skin + ascended tempest arms crate😅

vale yoke
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I get it. You want Astro. That doesn't mean we want astro

lucid yew
#

Whats this?

vale yoke
#

Ehhhhh?

lucid yew
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Came after the new update

cloud ridge
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They mentioned something about that in game update post?

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But wasn't sure what exactly it was

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I think they changed allaince relo ports to go to a set area rather than r5?

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That may be it and a r4 has selected that as the port area?

winter canyon
#

Whatever change happened to the mines, it's too late anyway

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There's 5 days left and F2P players will not get close to enough coal for Tundra building

cloud ridge
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Spenders aren't either 😅

vale yoke
near juniper
# lucid yew Whats this?

Hello! EN_wave
This is a new feature added to the game:

rainneondot Added an Alliance gather point feature and changed Alliance Relocation to relocate around the gather point.

cloud ridge
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Conversion rates are just awful, so much more stress from this migo even when FP wanted us to relax and focus more on events

lucid yew
vale yoke
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And that doesn't mention the fact that both tempest crates still rely on RNG. You've got a better chance of pull something to sell in auction. And those sprite crates? Don't really need them if I don't have any in the first place.

cloud ridge
#

Special statues are nice but don't tend to have massive impact

vale yoke
#

Exactly

cloud ridge
#

HQ skin is better really from migo, even if you can't get set

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Least you get fancy skin, some stats and a bit of collection points

winter canyon
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They made some features in MIGO impossible and we couldn't get the astro coins we should have gotten this season. I think 3 astro coins as compensation is reasonable

vale yoke
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Mehhhhh

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I prefer hard stats.

cloud ridge
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Then frame and HQ skin is all you need

vale yoke
#

I've never gotta Astro in any MIGO, as an f2p

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On any of my three accounts

cloud ridge
#

Collection doesn't really mean much unless you want some of the stats you get from it.

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40 is nice for the troop training speed, 30 I think gives research speed bonus, not sure on 20

vale yoke
#

Exactly, Duck. Sure it can help some people, but for someone like a NORMAL f2p, they're better focusing on other things than worrying over decor.

cloud ridge
#

F2p focus should be HQ and frame skins

vale yoke
#

Those are already things which are freely achievable, or can be gained with engagement, and I would have to agree.

cloud ridge
#

Then getting monke and formation stuff from store

vale yoke
#

On the formation note, I enjoy when their collabs have the infected cleanup portion at the start. Even if I think this collab as well as the previous are uninspired and useless, I do appreciate the rewards from it.

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Still not gonna pay money, but the free stuff right now is stuff I can save and use later on

cloud ridge
#

They are nice, and you can get an alright amount without spending,

vale yoke
#

The Jaeger build is trash though. Cats video was very eye opening for how bad that drop rate is.

cloud ridge
#

Don't even waste your time on it, it's big spender only requirements and only a few have the skins

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Some people will just buy whatever you throw at them unfortunately 😂

winter canyon
#

As for stats, there are many events that can help get materials to improve stats. The only points of MIGO are Glory and Astro coin...

vale yoke
#

While I don't necessarily always like the spending culture, I do think that if people are going to invest in any or all of an event or collaborative effort, they should have what they're paying for. But I guess it really is like the lottery - or I guess more like the Powerball here in the states.

cloud ridge
#

How about 955 glory points and 4 astro coins as comp 👀

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One free set, either 2 skins or 1 fancy skin

winter canyon
#

So they released Nexus... allowed F2P to get Glory. That is good.
They ruined Tundra/Seasonal badges... F2P players couldn't get 2 Astro Coins.

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I'm asking for a compensation of 3 Astro coins because their mistakes made us unable to get them

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That's all I ask for

vale yoke
#

Again, I've never even gotten one Astro coin and I've been playing this game since April of 2020

winter canyon
vale yoke
#

Most f2p gaze at the Astro coins from afar, or maybe have gotten one or two randomly for a great MIGO season. But it isn't a normal experience for us to get them.

prisma plume
#

Last few migos the astro coins were easy to get except the finish migo skill tree

winter canyon
#

You didn't get lvl 100 Tundra last time?

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I think last time it was very easy to get

vale yoke
#

Why tf would I have gotten to level 100?

cloud ridge
#

Astro coins aren't bad, they we're easyish to get but this migo not so much

vale yoke
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I'm f2p

winter canyon
#

And even the badges were possible

cloud ridge
#

Last migo it was easy to get to 100

winter canyon
#

I'm F2P too. I got lvl 100 last time

cloud ridge
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Even without spending

prisma plume
#

I'm f2p and last 2 seasons were so easy

winter canyon
#

The conversation rate was good last time

vale yoke
#

I also didn't play half the time because this game is... Well it's this game.

cloud ridge
#

You did have to be aggressive on mines though

misty pewter
#

Not the most auspicious name 😂

prisma plume
vale yoke
#

Ugh, mining. I keep forgetting to do that. Nexus has been better for remembering because I just send while I'm there

vale yoke
prisma plume
#

So you were running an alliance but wasn't playing and couldn't get coins.

vale yoke
#

It's almost like making things accessible for the people I'm responsible for was more important than my own growth.

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Amazing how leadership is a service position

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Even so, Shields, Elizabeth is in a top alliance as an f2p and receives a ton of support and encouragement from her family.
Most f2p are NOT top alliances, and share a more similar experience to mine.

I'm sorry that was so hard to understand, but I might suggest reading back in the conversation next time you require context before trying a gotcha response without it.

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Brb grabbing a different lighter, mines out of fluid and I refuse to engage here sober

charred swift
#

Finally, after months of upvoting and dozens of requests we have music. Now can anyone tell me how to turn the sound on please 😃

vale yoke
#

Settings > Game

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Should be Music and SFX toggles

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Gonna have to switch accounts to check out the music, Posty doesn't have a mansion 😅

rain swallow
#

I love how the devs ignore all the feedback and with each update they include more useless stuff and events that no one but the voices in their head asked for🤣

charred swift
# vale yoke Should be Music and SFX toggles

I was being tongue in cheek, I think it is the most ridiculous thing they have introduced into this game. Invite your friends to your mansion to listen to music. What a load of cobblers

winter canyon
#

I've done nothing but try to suggest feedback to improve the game and give players a better gaming experience.

Last time it was possible for active F2P players to get Astro Coins as long as they were active in mining... and completed enough seasonal badges which was doable without spending.

This MIGO, neither was possible. I'm asking for compensation of 3 Astro Coins because they ruined these 2 MIGO features...

charred swift
#

Meanwhile, outside the mansion and away from the idyllic sounds of the Waterboys, I’m being zeroed in nexus by a monster alliance 🤣

cosmic tulip
#

711m for the update. The game is already huge and adding stuff we didn’t even ask for😒

sweet copper
#

Who asked them for this useless button for "alliance gather"?

winter canyon
charred swift
vale yoke
mossy yacht
#

Please add a confirmation pop up message when a R4 places this new alliance gathering location marker.

Everyone is placing it on accident when trying to tap anything… 🥴 it’s really annoying .

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Also all these little monopoly buildings sprouting up all over the place because of this new “deployments” event button (next to freight) is becoming a problem. They are all over the place in the hive. People can’t even port back to their places if they leave. We already have to deal with tomatoes popping up and now we gotta wait for these little shacks to expire too

steel musk
untold stag
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Do we need even MORE gameplay features?

steel musk
#

and remove strategic from this post

#

is there strategic in this game where and which event?

untold stag
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Also, great job adding features that 99% of people don't care about nor will use:

winter canyon
#

There isn't strategy... but it doesn't matter I guess

livid yacht
#

Alliance gather point is working great as well😂

karmic aspen
#

When will it be fixed?

winter canyon
#

Who knows?

untold stag
#

And finally, because I am feeling very annoyed today, let's release a 800MB patch 1hr before Nexus:

vale yoke
#

That's not a patch, love. That's the update

forest kiln
untold stag
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Patch/update - It's garbage still

vale yoke
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Fair lol

fervent wraith
#

Anyone else having problems pre-setting 6 march slots after the update?

winter canyon
#

They keep adding music and other stuff, but fixing MIGO and compensating everyone with three astro coins is too difficult?
I just...

untold stag
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No option to see any others

fervent wraith
untold stag
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That too...nice

livid yacht
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I can see all my marches and edit them

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but I am probably in a newer state

untold stag
#

I'm reloading everything to see if it changes

livid yacht
#

my power is not even half your march power🤣

forest kiln
#

so, what it's actually do if I set mine full of people from other alliances as Alliance Gather point?

winter canyon
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No idea... it's not like it will help... unless you get 200K coal per hour...

#

And it still doesn't fix the seasonal badge problem...

forest kiln
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It's do nothing🤣 Just put marker

#

Id888s

forest kiln
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Wait, there is another step

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It's invite to start war inside state?

fervent wraith
tardy night
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It's for nexus etc when you wanna coordinate who goes where

And lead can use it to set location people can teleport to using alliance lead teleport location I presume

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R5, not lead.

ember monolith
stark current
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Move the gather point button to not be where the rally button usually sits so it doesn’t get pressed 100 times by R4’s just trying to do trap 🤦🏼‍♀️

winter canyon
vale yoke
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Muscle memory would have me doing the same. You get into a groove and then they change things

stark current
vale yoke
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The gather point button should be a "build" option rather than a button as it is

fervent wraith
vale yoke
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They changed how to switch accounts a couple years back on the menu option, and i was ruined for a month. When they change button placement like this, it takes forever to learn new motions to work around it

drifting spear
#

Alliance gather point….not alliance farming but where to meet?

vale yoke
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Yeah, basically Dameon. It's like saying "hey, everyone meet in this one spot for this thing" because map markers weren't enough?

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And apparently you can "notify" or collect players to you, which... I haven't tried. Don't wanna annoy people more than I have in my alliance

wooden dew
drifting spear
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Thank you Liannin 😊 Maybe they need to change the wording to alliance meeting point to avoid confusion 🤷🏼‍♂️ or maybe I’m just being too literal 😆

stark current
vale yoke
vale yoke
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If they're going to correct it, though, it might be preferred to correct the placement of the button first so we aren't all accidentally clicking as R4/R5 (for those in that/those roles), and then fix the name

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I wouldn't trust them to do both at the same time. Our devs lately have seemed like walking and chewing gum simultaneously might be a task

steel musk
#

yall just waste time here.. its like ask wall to make game better

winter canyon
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And we're still waiting for our migo compensationshocked_froggie

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Idk how long that will take

steel musk
#

just 5 years

winter canyon
#

At least 3 feedbacks submitted last 2 months

steel musk
#

Nexus still bugged.. 1 alliance could take all lvl 5 and they should could take 1 only even if too strong..

wooden dew
# mossy yacht - Also all these little monopoly buildings sprouting up all over the place becau...

Hi Honey, I agree - a confirmation message would (in this instance) help avoid unnecessary, unintended tagging. As for your second point, I have yet to notice that happening ingame, but can imagine it will be pretty annoying when it does happen. Dealing with randomly spawning resource tiles is already one inconvenience - adding those new buildings to that worsens it for sure. There should something that restricts where they can spawn, specifically to areas that were not recently occupied by a settlement. If that sort of patch is possible, it’d certainly help fix that issue imo. Thanks for the observations. I’ll forward them.

steel musk
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whats this buggy event

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click on map and will see which bug i mean..
each alliance could have road to 1 city lvl 5.. not all

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dumb FP

icy sage
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after updating the game, first time you access your formations (marches) page, it displays an empty page. exit the page and trying to access it again, disconnects you from the game. another great update brought to you by sos

civic star
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Well thats indeed sad, i would suggest leave game alone for few more minutes BearLaughing

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Let all catch files and extra data and everything download and then it should be fine bearhug

icy sage
civic star
jovial vigil
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Doesn't work... Game is unplayable even after 1GB of rss

civic star
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I have not managed to login whole day been busy been…..updating now fingers crossed

vale yoke
#

I stg if they patch during Nexus I will scream

torn rain
#

during the update, enter in game evenif it isn't completelly updated.

vale yoke
#

That's always such a worry with updates, is when they're going to push patches and who is gonna be messed over for it.

untold stag
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At this point, Nexus is basically unplayable with the update.

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You can't scroll out/in, making it useless to try and move around.

vale yoke
jovial vigil
vale yoke
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Guess it's a good thing we're stuck at CP1 for now.

civic star
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My nexus starts in few tooo……but hey guys i just a managed to load screen and everything

winter canyon
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I didn't update the game

civic star
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I just did some daily stuff working smooth

untold stag
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I'll probably have to adjust our strategy in Nexus as is it too laggy to do much of anything right now.

iron palm
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Don't update the game anymore. Devs are too dumb to make it easy to update with no bugs

civic star
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Never mind my game went off and started updating something again BearLaughing

winter canyon
#

5 days left this MIGO

civic star
#

Hehehe now i can say we. In this together BearLaughing

winter canyon
#

Still wondering when we will receive our compensation of 3 Astro Coins...

#

And they better fix Tundra/Seasonal badges next season

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That's just 1 of the 100 issues in this game... generation skip, gap too big, unfair matchmaking, hero challenges bug, behemoth trial taking too long, fake events like mystery mania...

normal peak
#

Is there a reason this is even still an event in older states

winter canyon
neon crypt
normal peak
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Ok put them in an event where the other 2/3 of rewards are useless

lucid yew
#

pos nexus runs today at 0.5 fps when trying to zoom out

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and game crashing with it 😂

hollow hemlock
#

yup, this lag has just wrecked nexus for the rest of the week

#

unplayable

lucid yew
#

thank you for the great update again 🙏

slow thicket
#

seriously? It was really needed? 😑

stiff heath
mossy steppe
#

deleting feedback reports, amazing. stop fu.. the game

supple aurora
#

Thanks for removing the feature of zooming in and out in the game map any longer. Very smart to spend more time reaching your target! Not fun to play at all

normal peak
#

So yeah I can moan..would rather have something of more worth like capsules

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Not Travis frags

rocky otter
#

Ty devs I loved this like dislike feature. I just dislike everyone muahahhaha 😍

misty pewter
#

Is the alliance mining feature up?

tiny quiver
normal peak
#

😂😂

#

Sheesh ok ok

#

Keep the bags

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And the white books

tidal apex
#

So much fun in event when you cant even teleport anywhere outside of safe zone or one of the few whales will zero you within 10 seconds

#

I get that someone who spends ton of money will be way stronger than me, nothing against that.

It is just that difference is way too big. Either give us some tools to close the gap a little bit or rework battle engine in settlement defence and give bigger importance to troops difference. It just looks silly when 370k attacks 7 mln and easily wins.

tardy night
#

You gotta have first march inside on wall. No chance after gen skip as joiners otherwise.

spark kindle
#

Are we getting a hot fix for the lag issue in nexus

stiff heath
spark kindle
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I got kicked like four times or something

#

And at the end I absolutely had no idea about what's happening oj the map because I couldn't zoom out

slow thicket
tidal apex
spark kindle
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I don't expect compensation, just a patch to fix it

slow thicket
tardy night
slow thicket
rain swallow
#

Everything we do in the Nexus, including getting burned, we could do in 2 days, 3 days at most, a lot of time dedicated to an event so bad that there isn't even matching

normal peak
#

If it was less days then there would be more focus on winning checkpoints and level buildings..the amount of dead time In event has whales hunting and eating. Shorten it to make it more of a game and not a dinner table

prisma plume
vale yoke
#

We were so excited to get the opposing garrison in our checkpoint down below 1mil with a rally. And then a bigger alliance came in. that was less exciting on account of the death toll.
But hey, it's points, and if us little guys keep getting locked into our checkpoints, we gotta get what we can before it closes permanently.

#

At least the reports make for good learning and discussion

#

God knows the event itself isn't good for much other than MIGO and feeding the krakens and whales.

#

But I do gotta know, what's so bad about having Nexus pools of alliances, like the 30m and below bp tiers, then 30-70, 70-100, etc, or whatever cutoffs would logically be?

slow thicket
tardy night
#

They have for some reason adopted the principle that paying enough in itself should guarantee some wins.

It's crap. But that's what they're trying. Pay to win.

#

You pay, they ensure you just have to show up and send a march to win

pallid willow
#

The points for hq hit are still ridiculous asf yea

vale yoke
#

And that's why we arent so mad about being locked in, except that it means we can't hunt among our peers. We have multiple alliances comparable to us on our map and it would be great to actually battle with them.
We know we can't take out the big alliances, we don't want to. We just want to have fun with people like us.

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The fact that we're always right next to one of the bigs, too, makes it hard. If we shared space with one of the smaller ones, we could have some good times. But for some reason, my little bitty alliance gets to try and keep alliances twice to three times our size and activity out of our one little building.

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And our spending level

#

Good god

slow thicket
vale yoke
#

Oh I know exactly what it's purpose is and it's stupid

tidal apex
#

I like new Trap addition, anonymous rallies, you either luck out and join strong person or bad luck and get low points 🤣

#

No names which rally is started by who

vale yoke
#

Lol I'm glad I know who is in my alliance but sheesh

#

oops, I missed alliance hall.

pallid willow
#

Trash update full of bugs

slow thicket
#

and even in state chat we cant see name 🤣

pallid willow
#

Where the nice bugs at🤣🤣 dm me pls if find one 🤣

tidal apex
#

But hey, we got thumbs up button so all is good shocked_froggie
I bet everyone was making ton of feedback about needing this

slow thicket
iron palm
#

What's this feedback channel for? In the end, devs only followed what whales wanted.

slow thicket
#

why my message has been deleted 😠 ?

iron palm
#

A whale crying can't beat other whales, devs gave them f2p alliance to bully

tepid rivet
#

Hey, don't be mad, we have music now in mansion, everything is fine isn't it

untold stag
#

The biggest alliance in our game pushed the middle alliances into our area and took our L5 and CP1

#

We had no choice but to take 2 CP1 from farm alliances or we would have been locked out entirely.

pallid willow
#

🤣🤣🤣

forest kiln
untold stag
forest kiln
#

Why the hell we even need it in state territory

round garnet
#

Anyone know what this random blue square in the wilderness is supposed to be?

forest kiln
#

Ok, I understand

tardy night
forest kiln
#

It's one more marker

untold stag
#

I'd rather use the existing ones since I can change the title.

forest kiln
#

You can put it anywhere, except Nexus🤣

tardy night
#

It changes the functionality of alliance teleports. Previously you used it to go near r5 hq. Now it can lead where the coordinate is posted.

#

So they're giving you a few free teleports.

forest kiln
round garnet
forest kiln
#

Alliance relocator working on it

#

I forgot when last time I used alliance relocator, frankly

tardy night
#

It should work in nexus...dunno why they don't enable it there.

round garnet
forest kiln
#

I think we tookit in alliance store

grim steppe
forest kiln
#

And it's just one there

#

🤣

#

Ok, forget it... but idea is good, was good... like 3 years ago good

slow thicket
forest kiln
#

What does this doing, in this case

pallid willow
forest kiln
#

But really, we get more advanced relocators then alliance relocators now days

shut iris
#

Good idea but its too easy to miss click on this gathering point and then suddenly 100 members get a notification😂 shocked_froggie 😅 all those mails is insane.

pallid willow
#

Shshshshshsh they are capable to make them exclusive and hard to get if we say that

#

About the advance ports i mean*

shut iris
neon crypt
#

Omg, move the stupid gather marker out of the rally spot for trap! 🤯

#

That gather marker has been put on our trap 10 times in 20 minutes, trap is muscle memory for us all, stop ruining it!

meager python
#

It would be an R4/R5 placing the marker on the trap

lean leaf
meager python
#

Yeah I’m not a fan of it. I have accidentally set it about 5 times now myself 😂

vale yoke
#

They should just put it in the build menu instead

#

Or make it a selectable option for R4/R5 as a bookmark option

pallid willow
#

As usual players working as the brain on functional solutions for new features instead of devs themselves 😂

round garnet
#

It’s gonna screw up capital clash for us too I’m sure

vivid hawk
#

so yeah, 5 tasks left outstanding. 1 i will complete getting me to 7530 pts. The rest are p2w as far as im concerned, you cant mine enuf coal and concrete without additional mining slots or packs

Tundra level relate directly to mining so nope (im at 79 of 120!)

Exploration Centre where you absolutely have to buy pack in order to unlock all the skils. Without buying i managed to unlock 90/100 but no way i can get near the end

guess im feeding back what we all kinda know, but i appreciate you listening 🙂 im going to delibratly stop pushing in order to not get to something stupid like 7930pts and just miss out

meager python
vivid hawk
winter canyon
#

I've found some suggestions for each problem. For each issue there are suggestions:

Problem 1: Generation skip
Solution: Give every victim of gen skip 2K custom capsules and 15K potions. That's enough to give a player 3 purple brain heroes.

Problem 2: Gap too big
Solution: Slow down the release of features. We understand that after some time there will be new features so if a new feature has to be released in the future, let it be a feature that is possible to upgrade F2P (e.g. hero gear/chief gear). That allows everyone to make progress.

Problem 3: Tundra and seasonal badges were ruined this MIGO
Solution: Give all players three Astro coins as compensation

Problem 4: Matchmaking
Solution: Match players based on alliance power or total migration rating

meager python
#

😂 see it hold on I will grab it again

vivid hawk
#

ty got it

winter canyon
#

As of now, MIGO is the most urgent one so we should try to get developers to listen and compensate all players with 3 astro coins

vivid hawk
winter canyon
#

So far 6 feedbacks have been submitted last 2 months but we are still waiting for our compensation

vivid hawk
winter canyon
#

Max tundra is lvl 120. No one expects to get there without spending...

#

If they put the astro coin at lvl 50 tundra, the bad conversion rate won't even be a problem...

#

But the bad conversion rate became a problem because the astro coin is at lvl 100, which means f2p won't be able to get there at all...

#

Therein the ruined event... and we are upset and need compensation😅

lean leaf
#

for lvl83 tundra you already need lvl42 boiler room lol

#

so what 2lvl tundra for 1lvl boiler room

#

boiler room requirement should be spreaded to lvl120 tundra too lol

#

impossible to upgrade both lol

bitter bane
winter canyon
#

Let's upvote thisHugssss

#

As for monster event we should have unlimited attempts to play as monster

#

By limiting the number of attempts matchmaking will take over 10 minutes and no one will play...

steel musk
#

5 attemps is all what we need to play

#

then leave the event

winter canyon
steel musk
worldly sable
#

Imagine if they stop milking the top .35% of players and make the game more affordable (5k a month instead of 50k) for a lot of people to get strong so that there's a lot of competition and a boost in revenue from more players feeling like spending actually does anything

rain swallow
vale yoke
#

Since the devs are likely already working on future content well advance of now, I would like it to be said that I don't think they should release Tier 13 in 2024, and should instead wait until Q1 or Q2 2025.
Just in case they were thinking about doing it this year. Don't.

#

Bad idea

winter canyon
#

Unless you spend 1k+ every day you're not going to stand a chance against max player

#

As for "Tier 13"... don't even think about it... T12 research is already a nightmare

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

We both know they won't

#

Which will make the fallout even funnier

#

But remember that someone told them not to

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

They've already said they're going to release more collabs

#

I got that in writing thanks ever so

#

This is how it is. This is how it's always been. It was always going to become this amalgamation of stuff because that's how it was meant to be.

vale yoke
#

People always want to say "this wasn't p2w to start" yes, it was. It always was.

winter canyon
#

We suffered enough from the ruined tundra/seasonal badge already

lavish heron
#

Lol

winter canyon
#

It's not funny

vale yoke
#

Someone laughing out loud doesn't mean they're laughing at you

#

I laugh out loud all the time

#

Only about half of it is actually at other people

lavish heron
winter canyon
#

So why are we all here in this feedback channel lmao

vale yoke
#

I've always been here

winter canyon
#

Just to vent?

vale yoke
#

I'm like a houseplant

civic star
lavish heron
#

That’s all

vale yoke
#

Ask Nature

#

She'll tell ya

civic star
#

Aiii leme enjoy my juice while I read everything BearLaughing

vale yoke
#

Feedback and Liannin are like peanut butter and jelly

#

But like... government peanut butter

civic star
#

It’s actually intresting talks…..two different perspective

winter canyon
#

So the biggest problem right now is the ruined MIGO features and this should be fixed asap

#

I don't think it's that difficult

lavish heron
#

If you think the request above will be fulfilled, then I really dunno what to say.

civic star
vale yoke
#

I would contend that the game is the biggest problem right now, but I guess we can get more specific

lavish heron
#

I agree with what you want but I’m being realistic to know it will never happen

winter canyon
vale yoke
#

They likely won't give Astro as comp anyway

lavish heron
#

That won’t happen

winter canyon
#

Why not?

civic star
#

But I understand azayji point and I respect it……person like me would keep nagging for something to get sorted…..some look at it differently nyasHug7

grave wolf
vale yoke
#

The devs don't have consistent values for items across the board, but Astro coins are something which generally do have a more fixed value in that they are highly sought after. People are willing to buy for them.
If anything, they would supplement with vouchers for mining resources and/or Glory for purchasing less valuable skins

lavish heron
# winter canyon Why not?
  1. That will give most people the rewards. Someone like me I am on level 83 and will probably finish between 87-90 of the buildings and that’s cause I don’t want to spend, if they give a compensation, people like me will get everything and that’s not good for them
vale yoke
civic star
#

Some bug issues, or wrong things…..game have compensated……well not exactly what community asked for but something what they seem appropriate bearhug

steel falcon
#

Where are all the Baddog cases going from the price cut helps in that event? Everytime I help I see the case go off to the bottom right, but there is none of them in my backpack???

vale yoke
#

Yeah I wondered that too, actually

grave wolf
winter canyon
vale yoke
#

It's free to download, and yes, you can play for free, but you cannot win for free

lavish heron
winter canyon
#

Why is letting F2P get a single reward so unreasonable to you?

manic gorge
#

If you open your backpack after they go, you will see "new" items marked

grave wolf
winter canyon
#

Azayji, what do you lose if we ask for compensation of three Astro coins to all players? You get them too, you know?

vale yoke
#

They're gonna see your request as unreasonable, Elizabeth, but go right ahead

lavish heron
#

You will never get even 1 Astro coin

winter canyon
#

I just don't understand why I'm getting ridiculed when all I'm doing is asking developers to improve MIGO and let F2P get something after THREE MONTHS

grave wolf
#

They won’t give Astro coins, be prepared for some bios and pink gen frags 😂

vale yoke
#

No one is saying not to go for it or that we won't support, but we have been here long enough doing this long enough to know that you won't get what you want. Manage your expectations.

steel falcon
civic star
manic gorge
steel falcon
lavish heron
grave wolf
#

Never thought I would miss Kings Group 😂

vale yoke
#

And to say you're being ridiculed rather than advised is to self-victimize. You're not under attack here, but the people who have been here for years fighting for these things are trying to help you.

lavish heron
#

Making migo harder is not something they would give compensation for as you can do it WITH MONEY. They believe you need to spend and if you can’t, then get what the game gives for free and that’s that.

civic star
lavish heron
#

People need to stop looking for a way to bridge the gap as there is no sort of thing. Play the game and get what you can… if you spend, spend wisely. If you wanna be a whale, be a whale but don’t expect to be a f2p and get rewards or be close to whales… WILL NEVER HAPPEN

grave wolf
#

Look guys at this point mid spenders are spending less. Most of us have realized that spending massive amounts for ego boosts (top ranks) post pandemic is stupid at best. F2P just go along for the ride anymore and hope they can score decent rewards for free. Some of us keep playing because of friendships developed or we haven’t found something better. It is what it is

winter canyon
lavish heron
vale yoke
#

I could see them agreeing to one Astro coin and a handful of lesser items

#

But not three

winter canyon
#

3 astro coins isn't going to bring us even close to whales

civic star
#

Can we agree to disagree in this situation? C_popo_think

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

Doesn't matter to the devs. You're literally asking them to dig into their own wallets the way they ask us to.

#

They assigned a value to Astro coins which is greater than what they generally hand out as comp. As Azayji said, even asking for one is a stretch, but if it's phrased well, it could be workable.

winter canyon
#

It's their fault ruining 2 features...

vale yoke
#

And I don't disagree at all

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

They really ruined this and badly

#

They did it on purpose too

lavish heron
#

But they don’t care

vale yoke
#

That's the real kicker is that it was done with intention

lavish heron
#

Their intention is to suck and get money from us.

vale yoke
#

And now you're asking them to compensate you for the conditions they intentionally set with three high value items

lavish heron
#

If you want, you pay… if you don’t want, then don’t pay

vale yoke
#

And again, I'm not saying you're wrong for asking for things, but I am saying that you'd do really well managing your expectations and remembering you're speaking to a corporation and not people.

lavish heron
#

Astro coins are one of the most important things/rewards in completing those tundra or reaching certain levels

vale yoke
#

people would care

#

That's the difference

#

people would have no problem seeing the same exact issues Elizabeth and so many others have reported and discussed, and they would say "yeah, okay, we tried this to make money and it isn't working so well. We can take this hit if it improves our satisfaction for later revenue."

#

These are not people

lavish heron
#

I believe if you want to raise a feedback or request, raise something more probable… there are TOO MANY IMPOSSIBLE requests from people and that’s a reason nothing gets done.

vale yoke
#

This is a corporate entity which makes video games specifically designed to generate large amounts of profit in short amounts of time.

#

Actually, putting them in the pearl store would do something.

grave wolf
lavish heron
#

Not bad but I’m sure if they do, they would add more stuff to the Astro shop and that will make things worse… they will never do anything to please us or benefit us

vale yoke
#

To explain why, it's because pearls are so intensionally tied to everything else, that people would see Astro as more achievable there. They would invest in things more often to get them pearls for Astro.

And if they make the minimal improvements they're considering to MIGO in terms of processing, it could improve the ability to get Astro in MIGO as well.

#

So it's two part revenue for them

lavish heron
#

Well this new migo wasn’t bad. I started off by saying I hate it when it was released but I think it’s better than the old one.

vale yoke
#

Elizabeth, I also feel you're being dramatic over constructive criticism. You're not under attack. We're literally helping you design better feedback.

#

You're not a victim.

grave wolf
#

Don’t give up. You can raise your concerns and give your opinion like the rest of us. Never know, you might the voice that gets through

lavish heron
#

No you are not being unreasonable by asking for an improvement. It’s the compensation or how you’re asking for what you want that’s the problem.

#

Also we know if they give you what they want, it won’t be exactly as you want as they will make tweaks to make it harder

vale yoke
#

No one is saying you're silly for wanting these things, just that it's important to manage how you're asking and what you're asking for in regards to the fact that this is a company whose only purpose is to profit

#

You can ask for things, and you can even get the things you ask for. It's about how you're doing it.

#

It needs to be said that not a single person is dumb or wrong for wanting things or desiring changes.

If people have been made to feel otherwise, that was unintentional. However, this company does not give things because they care, so talking to them is basically making one agreement for another.
What are you willing to compromise for what you want?

lavish heron
#

But lemme ask, were you able to get most things in the migo store?? @winter canyon

#

During this migo I mean

vale yoke
#

God I wasn't.

#

And I actually did stuff. Just didn't rank well as a f2p

#

Not as well as spenders of any level at least, or f2p in high rank alliances

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

nope

#

I got myself one set, and I have a little change left over

#

Not even the good set

lavish heron
#

Oh

#

That means you didn’t get the 500 coins from the 3 stages??

vale yoke
#

Nope

#

Sad innit

lavish heron
#

Yeah i guess

#

For skins I guess

grave wolf
#

I did get the top set, but did not finish Tundra building. I did finish the badge that gives 300 island. At this point in the game it’s better to set 2-3 things to prioritize and ignore the rest. I bought a total of 5 499 bundles for the de icing and I probably could have gotten away with only 2 or so because of Nexus. My priorities right now are heroes, behemoth and aircraft, unless I see a pretty HQ that also helps stats lol

lavish heron
#

Thing is people will complain about everything. I too once said nexus is a great event if they can do the matching properly

#

Even if they give everyone 1000 diamonds monthly, people will still complain. It’s in our nature to complain or not be satisfied

grave wolf
lavish heron
#

I agree. I am over 4years in the game. I have quit 3 accounts in old state and I agree with you. But there is nothing anyone can do now. Either take it as it is or stop playing it. Those are the only two options really.

vale yoke
#

Why are any of us?

lavish heron
#

I make complaint but I will never complain about certain things. I can complain about things promised to us that was not given, lags which affect gameplay/rewards, or events where the rewards were not given due to an error. But never about the price or gap or what people complain about.

I might say this game is expensive and things like that but not a direct complaint about them reducing or stopping or slowing down cause it’s never happening

lavish heron
#

This is one of my account and the second is the same too. Just 2 levels behind and 6200 instead of 6700

cursive vessel
#

Mine isn't even that close to 100🤣

grave wolf
lavish heron
cursive vessel
#

Not sure I'll finish stage 3 either and not even remotely close to the 8k🤣

winter canyon
#

That doesn't mean others don't care

lavish heron
#

It’s that simple

#

If you care= spend
If you don’t= don’t spend

winter canyon
#

We are not happy with the ruined MIGO features... I think giving us three astro coins and then promising to fix those features the next MIGO is very reasonable

#

I don't see why it's a problem to you

marble grove
#

So blocked players aren't blocked in alliance posts tab?

grave wolf
#

Honestly I will settle for them fixing the seasonal development and the lack of the stupid level 9 coal mines

lavish heron
cursive vessel
#

To be honest, I'm not even remotely bothered about the astro coins. All they need to fix is mining conversion rates cause tundra was impossible 😅

winter canyon
#

Why bother fixing it

#

You say it's unreasonable

lavish heron
#

I give up lol

vale yoke
#

No one says it's a problem for them, Elizabeth, and you sound petulant. Being told that your request might be denied and being given reasons why isn't being ridiculed. You're not being lambasted or roasted here. No one is making fun of you.
Just like you're going to find when you go to college, sometimes people in a position of more knowledge than you might offer you constructive help in bettering yourself. If you can't handle it here, then you won't enjoy it there.

vale yoke
#

I hate having to talk to people like they're my teenagers but if they're gonna act like it...

#

I'd prefer to speak like grown adults

lavish heron
#

She isn’t reading or understanding what we’re saying. Best to leave her to it

vale yoke
#

No, I feel like she is misunderstanding what she is receiving, thinking its people being mean instead of legitimately trying to help direct her feedback to something more manageable and achievable.
She doesn't want to hear why her feedback won't work, but she also doesn't want to hear what would work, because she's already deep in the belief that she's been told she's unreasonable.
Therefore anything we say won't matter.

Psychology is a pain sometimes

#

I completely understand why someone would feel that way, even if I would react differently. That said, empathy doesn't matter here because she's already convinced she is a victim of public ridicule rather than a contributor to public groupthink

lavish heron
#

Well said @vale yoke

last hazel
vale yoke
#

No one tell my behavioral psychology advisor, he'll say I shouldn't have dropped out.

grave wolf
#

Let’s talk about hero challenges instead. Why is it anytime I have a good run in the top 3 right after reset beginning of the week, the game “glitches” for a couple weeks? Phantom mobs that won’t die, phantom mobs that kill my Ollie, game freezes ..etc etc lol

vale yoke
lavish heron
#

That’s why I don’t want to talk about that again so it doesn’t sound like I’m being rude to her or anything

vale yoke
#

Alarm card for one

last hazel
#

Well , guys I need some advice EN_sobs

vale yoke
#

What's up, Ni

frosty sparrow
#

You too Ni?

lavish heron
vale yoke
#

Saaaame.

last hazel
#

Which skin is better in Pacific Rim ?

grave wolf
#

The cool one

lavish heron
last hazel
vale yoke
#

Lol

grave wolf
#

That’s all I care about anymore, is it pretty?

vale yoke
#

Azayji asks a good qualifier. Lead or no, Ni?

last hazel
lavish heron
vale yoke
#

Ni is "kick Liannin and laugh" strong

#

But then again, who isnt

lavish heron
#

What’s your behe level?? @last hazel

#

With that I can have a good idea

last hazel
vale yoke
#

You found more ice cream??

vale yoke
#

Since this is starting to kinda delve less into a feedback chat and more into a game related, could this move to #🆘︱sos_discussion maybe?

winter canyon
#

I don't know what to do at this point...

lavish heron
#

Migo?? I have walked away from that conversation. Something else, feel free to ask

winter canyon
#

Let's not talk about migo... there is no way I can agree with any of you on that matter

lavish heron
#

What state do you actually play in?? @winter canyon

winter canyon
#

I play in 676

last hazel
lavish heron
#

But you wanted to ask something tho… shoot

winter canyon
#

I've taken some time to calm myself down

#

I did blow up earlier and I'm sorry for that... I just want to say this is difficult for me and maybe I'm being annoying and venting too much... but I only want this game to get better...

steep yacht
#

Unfortunately it won't, it's only progressively gotten worse, since roughly the first anniversary event. On a plus note, I finally uninstalled it. 🙂

normal peak
normal peak
#

I delete the game 3 times a week

#

When I finally give up I’ll delete the account

steep yacht
normal peak
keen nimbus
#

Anyone know how to get rid of these damn alliance gather points?

steep yacht
#

Was easier this time around considering they keep forcing me into 14utc for every event, which is a time I can't play

normal peak
steep yacht
#

I also have my own rule where if a game stops being fun I stop playing... this can't even be classified a game anymore, just a menu simulator, gambling simulator. Most of the gameplay is tapping through the horrible buggy UI😂

normal peak
#

Yeah definitely not the game I started

#

I think I just stay on to annoy people now

#

And call whales whale 💩 in nexus chat

winter canyon
grave wolf
normal peak
#

We need a support group like Alcoholics Anonymous

winter canyon
#

I quit for a few days when generation skip happened... I don't understand why I reinstalled the game

vale yoke
#

sips in awkward silence

#

I uninstalled it once

#

But then reinstalled it right after because I wasn't uninstalling to quit in the first place

#

Gonna go think about some things.

stable cosmos
#

Not ready to be done yet. Getting a little closer with each collab though.

Reminder for the devs. You set prizes in a collab that are acheiveable for all. They don't have to be super good but they should not be basic resources either. You have additional prizes for paid customers.

What you do NOT have is the equivalent of absolutely nothing for f2p and everything for spenders. If you are doing that, charge for your game.

normal peak
#

I have 1 frag for behemoth skin from this event..feeling blessed

stable cosmos
#

You got lucky on the 1 spin they deigned to give us so far? Going to get 10 more, then who knows. They can't be bought

vale yoke
#

Thing is, I knew what was gonna happen in this game when I downloaded it. All of these things end up the same, it's just a matter of time, but most of these even follow similar development and release patterns.
So I'm probably not gonna quit for a good long while, tbh, and they know it. Have told my alliance they aren't beholden to staying, because many of them are getting fed up. One of our main rally leads crashes multiple times in events, to the point she just gives up on trying to log in. I can't blame her

winter canyon
#

The collab is just another cash haul for the devs... I guess even asking for 1 of the 3 skins is too much🤣

#

But whatever I guess... I'll just take whatever number of formation crate I can afford with the few free cubes I can get...

wide wraith
#

so the music thing says rock to your favourite tracks, but no Thunderstruck, Another one bites the dust , Fire or even 99 red balloons

winter canyon
#

I have the sound off when playing the game... and I never checked mansion

vale yoke
#

It's... Something.

#

Lol

#

That Cocoon song is a vibe lol

unreal lichen
#

I never open the sound of a game. So I guess this new feature is not for me.😂

tardy night
#

Ai mashups is all we prolly get.

wide wraith
tardy night
#

It's the same concept as skins, sentinels, towers, decorations...aesthetics.

You don't get your favorite there either, just a pick from the catalogue they put out. 🤷🏽‍♂️

It's funny to me how they diversify revenue streams between this and hyper-casual games.

vale yoke
#

I would love for them to pay out royalties and residuals for actual music. I'm petty like that

winter canyon
#

They would really do that?

tardy night
#

Meanwhile, suno getting sued for all the training dataMochi_drink

vale yoke
#

Maybe they could get Mod Sun to write another theme song instead of the players doing it this time

#

I'm sure partnering with SoS was great for his career the first time around

tardy night
#

Got paid in rss? 🤣

vale yoke
#

maps

tardy night
#

While being told to give up all artistic license rights over the material?

vale yoke
#

And speeds

#

I'm sure he got a lovely sterling silver Biocap necklace, wallet, and art book out of it.

winter canyon
#

Who?

tardy night
#

I'm sure the industry recognition will make up for it.

Hey look, free labor

vale yoke
#

It's this musician who did one of the theme songs for this game. Look up Mod Sun on YT

#

Song is called "No Escape"

#

It's on the official sos YT

#

The video... Chefs kiss
So much blacklight paint

#

The auto tune is something else, but it's actually catchy

stable cosmos
#

Exposure is totally valuable. Look at all those freelancers who made it big doing free stuff for companies. Oh wait, its none of them

vale yoke
#

babbles in corporate

unreal lichen
#

Yes, the opportunity to exposure is very important. But it's not guarantee to success.

vale yoke
#

Mod Sun actually was pretty successful but didn't super take off. Idk what's been up since this partnership, but it likely didn't hurt him in anyway tbh

stable cosmos
#

... yeah, thats not the same as being paid in exposure

#

Can't buy dinner with exposure. Or fill my car up. Only thing you can do with exposure is get arrested. And thats a differe t sort of exposure 🤣

unreal lichen
#

Some people even pay a lot to be exposed.

vale yoke
#

I prefer not to be exposed. I'm shy.

unreal lichen
vale yoke
#

Lol

tame jackal
#

another update after reset

sullen cape
#

oh come on it's really annoying
That new Alliance gather thing 😒

winter canyon
tardy night
#

But somehow doubtful volunteer mod team will get this. Mochi_drink

tame jackal
vernal patrol
#

This is just ridiculous and needs to be removed from the game immediately.\

winter canyon
#

I'll make a guess... Scorpion Kingshocked_froggie

narrow marsh
winter canyon
#

Ignore the button😅

#

Though, I still don't know what gather point means

narrow marsh
#

It's where the alliance relocator will take everyone instead of to the r5

#

Mines currently a metal tile 😂

winter canyon
#

Not a bad feature I guess... could save us an advanced relocator sometimes...

blazing kayak
#

omg they are adding such useless, but also annoying features 😄 did they hire too many people who have nothing better to do than annoy the playerbase 😄

vernal patrol
blazing kayak
#

"We will put this new useless gathering icon in the place of the previously most used buttons on the quick select menus.... and then spam everyone with it"

stoic elm
narrow marsh
#

I'll try that

winter canyon
#

There's too much in this game that makes me unhappy...

#

Like how they ruined Tundra and Seasonal Badges... I get upset whenever I think about it

blazing kayak
#

"we will make the chat window even smaller so you have to scroll all the time in it to follow the conversation"

blazing kayak
#

Half of the chat window bro

#

😄

#

who saw this and thought it was a good idea in design

winter canyon
#

Generation skip, fake events (like mystery mania), unfair matchmaking... there are ways to fix all of these problems, but we are still waiting...

#

I'm not usually patient, but what can we even do?

blazing kayak
#

I despair, these guys are clueless, really. If I needed to make a class to teach how not to design stuff, then this game would be a prime example

#

Mansion feature, SOS designer dudes, you flood us with so many events, we don't have time to go chill and listen to music in a pointless mansion with our buddies.... what planet are you on

slow nymph
#

ffs 😌

#

SNG / CIS alliance of server 1291 can build towers as they like to, we can't

stable cosmos
visual flower
stable cosmos
#

This game does have one good use. It can be used as a bad example

thorny hornet
#

this lag is killing me, i mean it's killing my troops. nexus was bad after the update, then they had a mini update and everything is even slower now

tidal oxide
#

So, I left Nexus, doing my dailies, troop training help for alliance members-then wham I have ported back to nexus?
Tap Wilderness to get out of alliance members settlement and it tells me I can’t leave nexus as I am in a cooldown? Lmao.
So switch the game of reset, log back on, bam I am in nexus.
So since the last dumb update we have more issues?
I think the Devs got their instructions on building a game from a wheeties box.

#

What is Alliance gather point? We have tags everywhere and cannot delete?

unreal lichen
#

You can only set one Alliance gather point. When you set a new one, the old one deleted automatically.

raw prism
thorny hornet
#

other than annoying us, i don't know what it would be used for

unreal lichen
#

I don't know. I haven't find the reason of this feature yet. It seems to me same with alliance marks.

tidal oxide
#

Yes exactly why do we need more

thorny hornet
#

maybe, and i am not nearly flexible enough for this stretch, maybe it could be used to show availability in high level mines

tidal oxide
#

So much new stuff and the broken game is still broken.
I don’t even recognise the game anymore

thorny hornet
#

i still haven't even played the desert mini game

stable cosmos
#

The alliance post looks like the worst implementation of a pinned message I've ever seen

tidal oxide
thorny hornet
#

LETS MAKE IT REAAALLLY BIG AND INTRUSIVE! GREAT IDEA!

tidal oxide
prisma plume
#

Some said you can use an alliance relocator to move to the new alliance gather point like you could to your R5

stable cosmos
#

Thats what its meant to be for yes

unreal lichen
#

Oh, they change the alliance relocator. It's not porting to the alliance hq but the gather point now.

thorny hornet
#

i just used a stopwatch. It took 11 seconds for the wilderness inside the nexus to load on the pc version.

tiny quiver
tidal oxide
#

But leader Relos do the same thing

#

So why have them on search, trap etc? Still makes no sense? This feature was not broken?
Tags are easy to use and delete?

thorny hornet
#

I am going to make my r4s put it on my spot at the hive so i can relocate using an alliance relocator instead of an advanced relocator

fallow lodge
#

The lotto task board to earn coins has disappeared after doing only a few of the task for everyone?

thorny hornet
#

i didn't have that at all this time

fallow lodge
#

Was on the left under store now gone

thorny hornet
#

oh that, yeah, mine is still there