#📋︱feedback-discussion
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So they've just had desert survival hanging out in the office for what, three months? And it's not like the interns they hire are given tools to circumvent the prevalent bugs in the game and mitigate worsening DS.
if this was developed many moons ago, they must have some s* devs tho. As everything, and I repeat EVERYTHING, they release is bugged. So it feels more accurate to say they came up with this yesterday afternoon at the daily toilet visit and quickly made something
This company is a huge fan of the belief that "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission"
Its not greyed out within nexus like all the other "cannot play from nexus" events, yet you cannot play from nexus.
Buy the 4.99 bug repellent pack like I do. Game is much smoother that way.
its cheaper to quit and just come in for a chat, Kenny lol
Just because it feels more accurate doesn't mean it is. Why else would I be so good at "guessing" what's coming up, unless I were a secret dev (very obviously not) or they follow a formula and time frame with their development like every other company does
altho, even the chat is bugged.
They release and only ever return by accident. Behemoth trials for eg. Its bad but it worked, they've lost a texture for the white lines.
Given the messes they make, probably no tracking of named constants and someone is calling things X or Y when those were defined 4 years ago
even duct tape and tyraps would do a better job at fixing current game then the devs do atm.
Cos stuff breaks and its like "how on earth did you break that, its unrelated to your new garbage"
I wonder thol if a mass money back claim on false advertisement of a working game would change their mind. And if its even possible
It's the spaghetti
don't reply to that, was a wild thought.
I'm sure it's been attempted, and their ToU states you have to process refunds through CS itself and only allows for a certain length of time previous.
They do have a lot of spaghetti. But as usual competent development avoids that problem. And competent management or team leads more so. Someone who'll look at a request and say "nope, can't deliver that it'll break stuff"
They did that on purpose
nah, you can get do it easier if you go via your App store. Like Apple store, google store . .huawai etc. Then they collect the claims and do it as one for ya
You really think anyone in the development team even knows what to look for? I'd be surprised if anyone outside of the PMs were still the same people from five years ago
Their tou is written to be vague as hell so they can wrangle it to mean all sorts of stuff
I'm telling you, it's been tried.
I absolutely do not. Its part of the problem
I've stopped my money flow to the game years ago. So to me it doesn't really matter anymore. But the bs they pull over new players and even old players is amazing
It's what they do. It's what they've always done.
In every game they make.
It's a problem now because it's so obvious, but some of us have been bleating into the abyss about it for years
Im not playing every game, I'm playing this game.
And this game is a reskin of the game before, and that was a reskin of the game before...
I just hope They'll release something which had a lot of cash poured in and nobody plays it, cos they've ostracized their entire player base
This is all learned behavior. They have been shown for a decade that people will pay silly money for pixels, and who's really gonna say they're wrong? Look at their revenue, falling as it is.
but nowadays most companies sell you an unfinished buggy software product. and then after they recieved your money, they do a few updates and then abandon the project. Good example is Ubisoft. They're masters in this.
All 5 or 6 versions of this game spoofed just so when our players leave, the company can say "hey this was an open beta we're closing down but you can port your account to this actual game called SoS"
I'm too old school. In my brain $100 is a full game release. Paying $129 for part of a feature does NOT work in my head
same Cyan
It's funny you mention Ubisoft. One of their employees joined FP a couple years ago
Well, the explains everything then! 🤣
Also same, Cyan. I'm used to paying upwards of $200 for a collectors edition with a ton of swag and additional dlc. And that's it.
Let's also mention the other guy who used to work for Zynga and has ties to WB through that work.
awwww, do we have to? its weekend...
Ohhh okayyy
lol
I should be going to bed...
G'nite bud
Get some sleep, Cyan. Your continued health is so much more important than a silly game or even a game discord.
Night. Half past midnight is late enough
for your age, that's really late! 😛
snort
At 40, yeah. Shoulda gone to bed 5 hours ago 🤣
sips in silence
no comment either...
No one prepared me for waking up at the butt crack of too early when I got old. What's that about?
Can go to bed at any time, and still wake up at 6:30a like I've got a job
time really does fly when you get to a certain age
ok, outa here - have a nice weekend.
You too, Andro. It's always good to see you around these parts. Hope your weekend is as wonderful as you are
🤗
another useless event "path of water"
its amazing, matching as the monster right now, 12 minutes so far and still going. At least at this rate I wont ever have to worry about buying extra tickets to play as the monster
It does take long to match as a monster, hopefully it will get quicker as more people go through their attempts
Spend money to more likley lose...
Most likely it’s cos players are doing cc now 😂
Yea 🤣
We need option to report afk players
This topic is 1.5y old and devs don't give a f.. about it
Desert Survival is a lazy horrible addition. Ships sailing through sand haha did not even make an effort to change them into something else. DEV's need to get there fingers out
I think in the broken world of sos… having a ships sailing on the sand is minor.. lets be glad its at least moving some direction 😅
One step closer to Dune?
He who controls the spice... Controls survival
I stg I want royalties from that.
Oh wait, they have their other game they're making where everyone is an intergalactic trader... Well, I'm sure they'll have us test stuff.
Next collab? 🤣
Hi Jawor.
Since the feedback has been a while, shall I write up a new one for you?
I don't really see desert survival any fun if I'm being honest...
Like I'm pretty sure monsters will like 99% of all matches.. All you need to do is kill and boom you got 20k lol
What’s fun tho
⛱️
True lol... What is fun
I had the best revenge yesterday
👂👂👂👀👂👂👂 tell
Here or in DM?
Well, I taught someone a lesson
I guess Dyno is taking a break in #📋︱feedback-reporting
Finding match as monster is impossible 🥹
Here
There i added them for you 🤗
Tnx
He stole my crate so I paid him a visit yesterday
Well if you solo 3.5 million does that make you a whale? 🐳
I realise this has been discussed before but nothing seems to have been done about stamina recovery in game, and with more stamina required the game is becoming more a drudgery than a fun game, This does not seem to be taken seriously or any solution, developers really need to address this as the issue has still not been addressed, players are constantly frustrated because stamina will not recover and no compensation is given for this, can someone please look into this asap
Hi Zombie!
have you tried submitting this in #📋︱feedback-reporting with the format ? 

it has already been done multiple times, but no resolution
That's a really good report. I would have a defeat 
I waited 2 weeks😅
First time I attacked someone in KE this year
Haven't been attacking in svs/ke lately because i need to save troops
We have nothing to lose if we try again. Will bring this up 
you had lots of fun that's what matters
I did some pvp a while back always fun
Wow that's impressive
thanks it shows us little guys can still win from time to time
We definitely can
Joker olly jeb to💀
I even went easy on him. Burned him 1 hit and stopped😅
Please Please Please, stop resetting all the god damn frames and decorations and marches so I have to clear all the red dots
Hello, you can always make a feedback about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting and if you are not sure how you can check #📋︱feedback-how-to or as well as any mod to help you 
So Pacific rim posted about their sos collaboration on their Facebook page, ppl can go and comment how awful and the pay wall it is there just saying
Now that sounds like something that would hurt f---plus. They don't control the narrative on that page
Oh no, how awful for FP, I wish pacific rim could pull out and be a lesson to blacklist FP from every corner of the world
Feedback provided
Here are some feedbacks regarding this collab if you would like to upvote
Feedback to f---plus on an already running collab will do nothing. It may cause minor changes for the collab happening in 2 years time but this is doubtful.
Posting on the pacific rim fb page however will notify the pacific rim people that f---plus are sods and may actually inflict some lasting pain on them.
Upvoted 
Thank you!! I'll check out the two you posted as well

Already upvoted, but thank you. Doesn't mean anything anyway, FP openly lie in their dev updates about slowing down, hearing us, reducing events, fixing bugs etc.
In an ideal world we could nuke them and move the game to another company who would actually try and fix things as opposed to stuffing as much rubbish as you can into this "scam game" before it literally breaks.
Take this desert survival event, just another pow, I don't mind it to be fair but it's very boring and the novelty wears off after a few matches.
Three ways to make it better (technically 4):
1 | Add more monster classes and maps.
2 | Make it so you can fully play with friends, being a full team of humans and monsters so the whole allaince can play and most likely enjoy it more.
Could even look into making it a 6 v 2?
3 | Much like POW the rewards are awful. Make them better and relevant.
4 | Delete the event and stop adding new events. We don't have enough days in the year to play everything.
We should make it a point for any collab to go to the publisher and spam how awful of an idea it is to work with FP before the event goes live and during it.
Anyone know what happened to the supposedly new alliance management chat? I was looking forward to it, but it looks like it was scrapped now?
no money to earn with that one...
I am looking forward to the new alliance chat too. It's still not release yet. Taking so long.
One of the other many lies with updates they do, often when they say x will happen, it usually never does or it comes down the road a much later time
Gotcha, I shouldn’t be surprised at this point… 🤦♀️
I just dont get why they even bother saying they'll do x when they have no actual intention to, if only it was easy to report them for misleading and lying about things and get them booted
I am getting used for it. Plan is not plan any more. No big different with my real life. But I don't mind. It's a game eventually. I can accept that. But I do hope all the bugs go away.
QoL improvements are always at least 3-4 major updates from the announcement. New bundles get added when and as they feel like it. Money making events arrive within the next update.
Stuff we don't care about is not announced and just shows up. Alliance hall, mansion etc
Also, can they fix the bloody alliance tower and territory bug, makes me wanna die
This seems taking a long time already.
Astro wheel is back. That used to be part of a larger event by itself. Chinese new year or whatever. Something that had at least some importance. Now its weekly?
I shouldn't expect otherwise but this isn't going to increase revenue
well they try.. they dont have anything to lose 😂
Did they add another lucky draw with frags with better odds cos not enough players were buying? 😂
Great now I can post because of an accidental swear
*cant
Trying again
This is popping up after the timer runs out on explorer mission during plague zone. Yes I have shut down and restarted the game. Neither account can finish explorer mission this pops up. All that Stamina is now wasted🤬
Adding that plague zones are the only FREE was to get the parts for chief gear
Hey,I understand your frustration.
Did you open ticket to customer service about this bug?
Of course not. It's all an automated bot answering. Never get to a real person
Are you tryed open ticket via alternative menu? If not I can send you instruction in dm.
This should be connect you with person
Not worth it. Just p.o. that after almost 5 years of game play the most simple of tasks it still glitchy
Yes, I totally understand but like you say "Stamina is now wasted" and shouldn't be like this, So maybe you decide to open a ticket to the Customer Service and I'll help you publish the Bug Report here on the server
So... I did 4 hammer hits yesterday and it didn't count towards the solo points
is it a bug or something
Yes unfortunately it looks like a bug , it should be counted in the solo points if you did use the hammers ,I suggest opening a customer service ticket, this is a guide about it, after writing down the customer service ticket, you can also report it here #🐞︱bug-reporting using that format #🐞︱bugs-how-to-report , I can assist you or write it for you if you want
Pacific rim is terrible. Why am i not in a giant robot already.
Heres how it should have gone
Mini starter quest. Play 5 preset levels of explorer trail. These tell a story and walk you through finding the jaeger pilots. Finding a power supply and some parts for repair then finishing on finding the jaeger itself.
After this the mini game becomes a target shooter of incoming zombies with no paywall. Paying lets you speed this section up or increase rewards.
After surviving the zombie waves a kaiju should show up and we use the sword to attack and block attacks in a reaction game. Speed of completion and zombies killed/damage taken defines how many event bits you get. You can repeat... lets say 5 times a day at increasing difficulty.
Thats a mobile game thing thatd be interesting and more importantly engages you with the collab content immediately.
Unlock the jaeger skin which does nothing after completing 10 levels. Unlock special skins by earning a ton of extra bits
What we have instead.
Devs: hurr hurr rng go brrrr
Every event is weekly now. Nothing like a “large event” no more.
Or some are bi-weekly
Some going non stop... I'm sure we had it during this week. And we had lucky cards last week restarting Sunday, which I'm not sure already. Every day in SOS looks like groundhog day now
All their bundle events just suck. Nothing fun. No gameplay at all. Buy stuff press the RNG button, repeat
omfg
Hi cyan, you have a very good point and this is what would be expected to any collab “game” but I won’t lie, this isn’t feeling like a game like it once was, unfortunately. Have you put this in #📋︱feedback-reporting because it’s very detailed and It would make me sad if it got lost in this channel.
With this event being thrown at ua constantly, it’s concerning to why the keys are being recycled when we only get a small amount for free 🙈 not a great design frankly. But with practice it’s an aggressive tactic to get the little bits you need to win in SoTF ranking.
Have you made any posts in #📋︱feedback-reporting regarding this event and your thoughts on how useful/less it is, what should be done about it and its currencies?
The rng is the human emotion exploit of addiction and we should not ever have in any game if it involves spending real money.
Each time someone tries to switch the skill I’ve never seen this to be a better option which is harsh, it doesn’t help that they cost more each time to see the same generic options the next time you try.
It really should give one good option and one worse to make it fair every time. Might not be a better stat option but definitely a good option to still consider to make it worth while.
I get 2 of the worst possible stats to choose from. I wasted 80 solutions for this!
Reforge should never give worse options... we use items for what...
To get worse stats? No thanks. I decided to keep the old stat because it was 10x better than either of the two new options. I want all my 80 solutions back!
That’s the unfortunate route we’ve been taken on with rng. Realistically the two options should be;
- Better version of your current stat
- A random other skill, random stat %
Either that. Or give 100% of the solutions back when keeping the old stat because both new stats are worse
That would be great, it should actually be the norm honestly
TA is stuffed anyway. Rng inside rng. Not only do you not know which stat you'll get you also have no idea if it'll even be good. Then you level it up 10 times with difficult material and hope that some of those are good. Finally you use an incredibly expensive item which goes RNG again and you may get something that invalidates the rest of the equipment.
All TA should have the same level of stats on offer. The only rng should be which of those stats you get, not how good they are. The final "skill" should be heavily influenced by the stats you got leading up to it, or even a direct pick, its not like the syringe thing is cheap
Too late for this. They'd have to recode the whole event. The real feedback here is "f---plus you suck and have no imagination, do better" which won't achieve much
Getting 1.5 troop defense or 12 troop health... this is literally humiliating
2nd gen TA skills rng has been nerfed beyond belief….
Whee, i spent actual money or thousands upon thousands of earned items and my TA is now worse than useless. Auction or recycle. Its so bad
Get a 2% troop defense frame for 100 pearls or use 2k pearls on essence and get 1.5% troop defense🤡
I seldom spend on this, just use the free stuff but it’s unbelievable 😂 you can get a TA with all purple skills which never happened with the first gen
All purple stats can be good if they are all hunter lethality or infantry HP
Do you guys know why F+ started the Funplus Universe?
Don’t get me started on the lethality stats 😂😂😂
I don't at all. But it would suck to spend buying up the nanos and the ascendance thing to get utter garbage
Yap especially the ascension part, that’s a really nasty surprise 🤣
Funplus Universe…. F+ U Daily 😂
I can't complain tbh... the piece is actually one of my best pieces
but the reforge mechanism is just humiliating
as well as ascension mechanism
You risk getting a skill that is worth less than a frame... use 2K pearls for something worth less than 100 pearls... I just can't...
And when you get that skill... your piece is basically ruined forever

I used to enjoy the survival Royale and farm for the TA items…. With the 2nd gen rng and the 40 players… I stopped, it’s no longer enjoyable
I've seen people getting the same troop defense skill with green essence... is that epic fail lmao
@merry scroll look how Devs and FP greedy and make game worse.. Kick them out
They heard the feedback and have optimised it to contain 100 players.
Thanks for your support

And yet we all carry on and put up with this garbage
SR BTB is gonna be terrible
The players in my alliance are so overwhelmed, I've been telling them it's okay to quit the game if they need to.
Basically shoving them out the door like "no, no, you go have a real life. I'll lock up"
Last one out of Liannins alliance switch the lights off please 😃
That would be me lol
Generation skipping has been going on for over a year and they have done nothing to help the victims of generation skip... Our troops don't matter because 10 million troops of f2p burn in less than 5 hits... they didn't fix reforge despite feedback 2 months ago... tundra/seasonal badge is nothing but a tragedy
It's exhausting you know
I made promises that I would be the last one left
I’ve got images of you looking back at the door, wistfully shaking your head, turning round and walking away
Players aren't having fun
Kick them so you will be the last one
This is very cinematic in my head, and as I'm currently wearing my Evil Morty face, it has his theme from Rick & Morty
La la la laaa laa laa laa la
Nexus has been an amazing example of Not Fun
Lol no no, they've been told they can move onto another alliance if they want, leave the game, etc. All our events are optional participation anyway, so it's about as low-stress as I can make it for people
Devs tested it.. the top alliances have fun burn small alliances
Burning can be fun. But when you lose 800K from 1 hit and then burn on the 2nd or 3rd hit that is not fun.
It's like our troops don't matter
Lol we have THC as our Nexus neighbor. We gon dieee
I doubt they really do. Small alliances will just give up and not play. Hard to burn something thats not there
If any THC members read that, I love your name and we can def chill sometime
I'm too weak to even burn a farm
The only people I can burn are probably inactive players
and who steal crates
Yep. That's one of the days I really had fun in the game
Revenge is the sweetest😊
And I gave the rat a warning... too bad I lost 7K troops in the process
Three alliances didn't take City 2 on our Nexus map. My alliance is between the top alliance in ranking and a mid. They like to put us in these situations, I think, to keep us humble, but like... What's more humble than saying "hey guys, pile randoms into CP1 so we can get a few points when they inevitably come to take it. Pretend like we're actually fighting for it. They'll never know the difference."
Yep. Burning him 1 hit is a warning.
Next time he does this I will farm him to 0 troops
he wont 😂
He better not😉
Meant to make you spend. I doubt its ever worked. People would spend for the top 2 inches. Not the 500 miles and 500 more currently required
If you knew that spending say, $50 would bring you up to or above the level of the guys you're fighting, you might make that choice.
If its clear that even spending $1000 wouldn't even take you halfway, well you won't try
I think we tried once, back when Capital first opened in our old state, and we were like "meh, that's a lot of work. You guys wanna get some food instead?"
With $1000 you could get Angelica when her bundles come😉
True
Actually, I just threw another $1400 without blinking at a work truck, so there's not a fear of spending here. The devs just don't give me anything I want to spend on.
It's funny, because, in my business, I offer one of the least expensive pet options for a custom designed piece, made from high quality materials and hand crafted. Oftentimes, also personally delivered and set up so the client can just enjoy their purchase.
We still consistently make better profit than our more expensive competitors simply because we don't gouge our clientele for money they don't have.
Put this in a video game sense, and FunPlus is the expensive competitor. There is always a less expensive gameplay option available from another creator or company, and if FunPlus can't get with the times and figure it out, their clientele will do the same thing mine have - switch to the smarter and more affordable option.
I will stay F2P. Despite people on this channel and other channels/servers telling us how we are not allowed to join rallies and how we ruin their SvS
I'm just glad I'm in a good alliance that cares about their players.
I feel so bad for people who are in a bully alliance that tells their smaller players "you don't have gold behemoths and collector 70+ so don't join my rally"
Angelica only helps if you are already very strong to begin with.
It's a sad reality, Elizabeth, and I am sorry that I contributed to making that known to you, but some players do experience it.
I'm glad you have a supportive and inclusive family as well.
It is our belief that an alliance - and by proxy a state - is only as strong as its lowest levels. If an alliance or state isn't investing into its smaller players, it is leaving potential untapped.
Some of the most dedicated and consistent players I have met are f2p and low spend, as well as some of the coolest.
in my alliance all are welcome in the rallies no matter what level
after all my philosophy is we are only as strong as our weakest player
Good people are everywhere. Whether krakens, whales, mid spend, low spend or f2p
Having good players is the most important thing. Because it allows everyone to grow
It's always been funny to me, the thinking. "We don't want people without these things because they're not strong". But how do they get strong, though? By doing things.
So yeah, it means including people and sometimes maybe not doing as well, because it's about making sure all members are cared for.
Feedback I demand the dev let me get a good skill for this TA
I still have 8 attempts left to reforge the stats of a great piece. Fingers crossed🙏🏼
more wiggles
Does anyone know if this stacks up?
Reloc effects don't stack, or at least not that I can see
Not upgradable far as I know, so don't waste coins on it for now.
Also, I have no idea where Posty got that green one? She doesn't buy things like that in stores, so...
Green is from card collections
All cards unlocked is basic affect, then all rare and all diamond
Green is my favorite color so I was very happy, if just confused. Thanks Duck!
Thx. Wasn’t sure but thought the same
I bought the dragon one from pachinko, cos it looked neat. With pachinko money of course
Dragons nice, I don't mind green either, but relos affects are a waste to me, should have really been statue affects or maybe a new aura affect?
Unless your FP of course finding anyway you can to monetize things
I love when people say too many events, too many bundles... they start overfilling reward center... what sort of rewards are in this picture? Looks like bundles to me.
The rewards are the money sent to FP once people buy them
Hardly seen anyone asking for help to boost 🤣
Sadly it will tempt some to try their luck, and that's what they want to happen
But must be some if they made a second type of same event
I don't even know how the boost works, never seems to give me an option, but still won't get the crates either way
Comes up like that
I've seen that, but I don't seem to get an option to ask for it when I go to boost
If only they made things easier for simple people like me 😌
So I've noticed certain bundles are now doing 2x or 4x on biocaps/top-off points.
Considering there is ALWAYS a catch with anything that remotely looks positive, I wonder what it is.
It's a scam
That's what those crates are
That you are still paying for useless items that won't get you much progress 🤣
Just so they make those small spenders spend more to think they spent like a whale 🤣
And is there a single person in this discussion tab who has hit an A teir reward? 🤣
I only buy those with resonating hero frags cause no other way to get them. But always lowest tier rewards 🥲
Yep they used to offer them for free with reso vouchers until they decided, oh we can just do collabs and make people pay for reso frags as you cannot complete a hero in time set given 🤣
I know right 🙄 annoying buggers those devs
Its not a "bully" alliance. Just dont join top alliances then. You cannot win without a maxed behe rally
Pure following the mechanics
you cant go to the best football club and demand striker position aswel
when you not so good
but in a football team u dont have only striker 🙄
I was in a top alliance and they didnt care of ur level so...
The time wait for matching as monster on desert event is makes me sane 😦 very take time to get a match even wait 10min not guarantee get a match
whatever position. all the same as long you not better you aint playing. What top alliance you played then? and when?
So middle players don't have the right to play in a top alliance? Very good mentality.
No matter which one and when it was just a question on help everyone.
It's cause of mentality as urs than a lot of people left the game. If only the win counts, food for u.
It has nothing to do with right, it has to do with knowing your role. You cant demand a spot in a rally easy as that or top alliances will lose all rallys because of you.
I dont know if you actually serious
It seems for me really selfish to wanting to join every rally in a top alliance that will potentionally lose with a weaker joiner. Means you only want to join top for rewards and only care about yourself
Join a middle class alliance or casual if you want to join rallys. preferences. But in a top alliance the rule is simple. Only fill if it doesnt fill
Nothing to do with bullying. all to do with winning as team
You cant go to Val/.Dyz with purple behemoth and expect them to let you join just cause you have faster fingers. Alliance have organization and strategy to win battles and the game devs made joiners more important.
I don't know in which alliance Ur but it looks like an army. Spend or be better or u don't have the right to play 🪖
Why are you defending selfish people who throw their own players under the bus?
Just because they don't spend money?
Right to play.... If you weaker you fill when rally dont fill. You gather or grab water
Its more selfish that you rather lose a rally and the game so you can join🤣
You chose the top alliance, so you follow the rules in order to win
you want to join all rallies. Fine preference go to casual mid alliances
But dont call stronger alliances bullies cause they want to win
The relo effect gives 2% health and lethality
You know it's only a game and it's not real life 🤣🤣🤣
Excluding and throwing own members under the bus is bullying. "I want to win" is not an excuse. You can have 8 pairs of behemoth without having to bully your smaller members
You just need to have 20 people join with 100K troops each and send the 8 top joiners back and have them rejoin one by one
first 20 cant join, second you lose cause they dont have enough troops and last to complicated
you literally want best rewards
but also play
XD
Thats using the power oft he whales and putting alliance last place
Why would they not have enough troops?
only care about yourself
Bullying is telling someone in state chat I hope you die. Kicking someone from a rally is not bullying. Let’s be real here. 🤷🏻♂️
Ye, means alliances should lose battles so you can join rallys?
This is why i hate quite a bit of the f2p players
They just so unrealistic

Every player has the right to play there way. Every alliance has the right to play there way. It is not right or wrong. Play how it fits you and play in alliance that fits your style of play.
Exactly
Just leave the alliance
They not bullies they just want to win and not play casual
Throwing your own members is okay? Just because they aren't as strong as you expect them?
Sorry, but not everyone is collector 90 and 1000 moral
Not many have that much money
Then don’t play in that alliance.
And most people are well aware when they're joining an alliance what "type" of alliance it is, in terms of what that alliance prioritizes or how it's run.
The fact remains that alliances which are consistently successful are also consistently monitoring things like how their rallies are filled. That doesn't mean they're bullies, that means that any f2p players they do have likely have a different role within the alliance, and dominant rally filler isn't one of them.
Nothing to do with throwing literally how the game is
So you think you can join dyz and every rally aswel?
you need to understand your role if you cant spend
you get better rewards but also play diffferent
It isn't the reality for all alliances, or all successful alliances - every one is different - but it is a reality to some people, and it's no less valid than being all inclusive for an alliance
I am a strong player in my state and alliance. But I would not be a strong player in DYZ. I know my place and my role. I play where it suits my style and strengths.
I'm not even a mid tier in my state, and I know that I would be detrimental to the success of a battle rally if I joined. I would expect to be kicked, not out of malice, but out of necessity.
What's the problem if I send 100K troops and they can still fill the rally with 8 pairs of top behemoth and 8 planes?
If this was an honest game then it be worthwhile maybe, but the odds are skewered, even catzilla did a video and showed how bad it can be. They are there to look good, which to some degree they are. If you're lucky that is.
It is possible
RR has 2 legions. Many use second legion for smaller players. Nexus needs as many as possible to besiege. SVS some send smaller lead with smaller players to try and take towers to help. Many ways to play.
They all give stat buffs, but it's another thing we have to pay for which shouldn't even be a thing, next they'll charge to change our names, change the colour of text etc.
We split all into 2 legions for all players
But the first one gonna try argue with me about not be able to join rallies is out the alliance. I find it selfish
You cannot join a top alliance and then demand a spot
We try to get everyone points but not against the price to lose
Nexus have been developed only to satisfy big spenders ego to burn little alliances with loosing troops 😁
And besides most f2p players are to casual and dont listen at all
lol
if you cant even follow simple instructions well
gonna be hard if you dont spend either
There's always a role to be filled or a space where someone is needed, but in order to ensure the alliance as a whole is getting top rewards, sometimes players might have to manage their expectations regarding their roles. That doesn't make them less vital or less of a part of that alliance; it just means they're not first pick in the NBA draft.
You can choose yourself where you play. big alliances have benefits so do small alliances have
your choice what you like
But cant have all
exactly. Well at least our f2p players lower spenders understand this
RR if we need to stack they just go grab the water or gather. Not join the rally
Sorry to not be millionaire and make first eat my kids than Devs that are not able to program a game 🤣🤣🤣
No one said you have to spend
Just said know your role if you want to be in the best
Honestly, the contributions out of battle times by f2p and low spend, just from engagement alone, helps maintain an alliance. While I don't run mine that way, I do understand why some have chosen to be more diligent.
I don't have to like it, or agree with it, to understand it.
This game has always been free to play but pay to win. From the very start.
Yes.
Not really a choice if you play vs alliances like dyz val tho hfc you call it haha
Cause before it was possible not now. And Devs have done everything to grow the gap and put the low spenders on the side.
Throwing own members under the bus is very selfish. It's like the alliance doesn't care enough about their smaller members to even let them participate...
assuming you dont
exactly devs made it like this
There are ways to compromise...
they can participate
just not join all rallies
First, 20 players join with 100K troops
Lead sends 1st joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Lead sends 2nd joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Repeat with joiner 3-8
Just do this and you have 8 maxed behemoths, 8 maxed planes and 12 F2P who can also get points
Not at this point than now. U didn't have all these parameters to be maxed. It was more strategy. Now it's just who will have the best maxed player.
Oh this game was absolutely always p2w. VIP is how they getcha, aside from 2nd Construct.
And I didn't say to join all rallyes 😉
It was what u didn't understand 😉
Back when we all thought lucky and ray were special
My first alliance was burned to the ground by a spender in first month. Our first svs a whale sat in cap and was never kicked.
this does not work. Behemeoths get inneffiecent and no 20 slots either
If you can manage rallies like that in 1 minute you are much better than me for sure.
What's your rally cap
Yes but at start is there all these heroes, resonance heroes, border, hq, planes, behemoth and so on? No.
Now if u lack of one border it changes everything.
It's not 20? How many can join rally?
In my time in this game I have been weak F2P. Mid spender. Borderline whale. State rally lead. Now back to secondary lead. I have seen all sides. I play my way and play in alliances that fit how I want to play.
And now sorry to say that but now it's not fun anymore and at start a game is made for this, have fun and emotions in a battle.
What's a whale's unbuffed march cap without heroes?
I could go to smaller alliance and be primary lead but I am ok with being joiner in most events.
I assume around 230k or something?
attacking rally 10 i believe
Yup
That would require less work actually😅
And I'm ok to be in a small alliance with big players too.
If rally cap is 2.3M
Lead: 300K troops
Whale joiners 1-7 join on eco mode, no heroes without march cap buffs: (250k x 7)
Then you can have 2 F2P join with 125k troops each
Don't even need to send back joiners and have them rejoin.
I hope I did my math right
I also don't know the march cap of a whale without heroes... that can vary I guess
But there are always ways to include players without bullying them out of rallies
big leads have more than 300k
I have seen solo marches of 400k 😅
think max was 375k or somthing
That's with buffs and full migo probably
With massive march and all tundra right now it is higher.
Yes with all migo buffs
And the lead having a higher solo march cap will also increase the rally cap if I'm not wrong
4 of the statues in pacific rim are march increasing statues.
rally cap is 2.4 mil
Last SvS max was around 338K or something
Idk if his massive march buff was still active... if 338k was without mm, then +10% and that should be around 370k or smtg
Heroes and buffs give lots of march cap. So not having them active would lower that by a lot
last svs here.. opponent had 2.4 mil rally 🤣
I'm trying to use my different crystal upgrades but no idea how to or what to use them on can anyone tell me how to use them as there is no obvious in game information
Some have 400k march but we dont want to mess up formations either
Just join another alliance if it bothers so much. They dont do it to bully just wanting to win as alliance. Which also means better rewards for all
Statue march frame
Of special events
Like resident event turtle or the one now
thanks but that still doesnt tell me how to use them
400k? When did the march cap get that high?
By going collection and press upgrade on those pieces
Just how you upgrade skins ingame
I've tried that but there is no option to do that, so I guess they are completely useless
Thanks for your help anyway 
Not all works just special event once
matchmaking awesome 🤣 🤣
are you from rip ?
we playing together now. im from pix 😂
Cool matchmaking indeed 😂
yes 😂
KOTH matching sucks. I'll never get migo done. we never get the time we vote for. How we get our 3rd option.
The time choosen for RR and KOTH depends on the peoples votes
but for KOTH you always know who you will fight against
So it depends on the 3 alliances vote
As i said, with KOTH it depends on the selected time of 3 alliances. So it's harder getting the selected time you want, i know it sughs but that's how the machmaking works
Matching is terrible anyway so the least they could do would be allowing to pick 1 time only... That way at least people will be able to participate in the match
Main argument when they made this "pick multiple timeslots" was for better matching. It is clearly not working. All it achieves is that you are still often facing opponent few times stronger, just that in addition half of your members cant play because match happens on 3rd picked time 👍
The game is best for bullies who like to show off🤷🏼♀️
Where you can destroy people half your power in events and laugh🤣
While the other alliances aren't having fun at all
Hi Shirosei, this would make for a good feedback, would you like to create e post here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 following https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132.
I quite like the idea of only selecting 1 time as from my personal experience we have a majority vote on the number one pick for time slots.
I still remember the times when spenders sat in a corner bullying F2P in azurtane heist...
Hey, were you able to figure out this thing? I have seen another player answered to you so I was wondering if it's all good now
But whatever I guess...
Everyone should be allowed to play the game the way they want, right?
Absolutely Elizabeth.
I'm just glad that I'm in an alliance that cares about their players
Sadly the same can't be said about some others I know...
👀
Exactly
I remember time when spenders couldn’t burn f2p or hardly
Time like that
Now one hit on f2p and they burning
Aircraft formation , Beo , Tempest , limitless everything provide skill have destroy the game.
Surviving one hit is possible
I think the key is to find the right state and alliance. I'm lucky, I play in an amazing alliance, but the whole state are cool and we all help each other.
Taking much more losses though
One hit 400k of max player ? I think you need have 20-30m troops as f2p 🤣
10M is enough
They ruined game anyways by releasing aircraft formation and beo
Depending if you f2p player play smart and spend 6-7h in game par day lol
Idk if I play smart
Being in a good alliance helps a lot. Being active also helps a lot.
We burn eventually of course, but 1 hit from max player is possible to survive.
Last SvS I got hit and lost 800K troops. I wouldn't take more than 1 such hit because I doubt I'd survive even 3 more hits after...
It's not just march capacity that is the problem
It's combination of p2w features that gives max player such a huge advantage
Cause even if 500K vs. 10M, the f2p still has 20 times the troop number😅
Problem are not even stats
Problem are feature provide many crazy skills
Gorilla , Trex , Companion , Tanks , Tempest , Statue , Statue completion , Aircraft formation , Carrier , Beo skin , and Limitless + operative hero Is just to much now
Hello, about rally capacity and march capacity here an image that shows how to increase both of them
I hope it's going to be useful
I was burned by one p15 in one shot and I'm no so much little.more than 6,5mi'lions troops with stats more than 4700% in infantry...
What would be useful is stopping add new skills to let big whales even more stronger than they already are.
Someone knows how many troops has the strongest players?
They can’t stop… if they stop adding stuff, the spenders would have nothing to buy and get bored 😅
I started playing in states around 240 and I remember things were much easier so I get what you mean
and I have always been a hoarder free to play/low spender
KoH matching is non existant, how can a team with 13 players be matched with one who has 29?????
many people complaining about this, I also had a very bad match for this KOTH
Nobody wrote a feedback about it this week yet. Would you like for me to write a new feedback?
sure but they know and couldnt care less
#📋︱feedback-reporting message I wrote it, let me know if it's okay or if you would like to change anything
looks good
Add back our ship battle, delete desert survival with the *** bugs . No possibility to send march ....
tried that desert thing, they should have left it in the desert to die in a fire
Alright, I'm not missing out then 😂
it makes POW look good and thats saying something
add Attack on Titan as event in game

Hi shadow, the desert event can be pretty fun. I think it’s a good start for a beta personally. It definitely has its issues, but what I find great currently is that it doesn’t depend on spending like PoW. Do you dislike the entire idea of it or do you think if there was more variety for monsters and even humans. Where they have presets and can only use those instead of the same ideas from PoW.
If we’re heard finally we could make this event pretty fun on the side.
What’s your thoughts about anything related to that?
It's a bag of spanners and just another pointless waste of time for very little gain. Btw, this mod thing you do where you ask fixed questions to try and promote some kind of response to latch feedback onto, others do the same and it's obvious it's just part of the dialogue you guys are taught. Can we please just try and have a normal human conversation, people react better when your acting like a player not a mod
It's always going to be little gain regardless what we're given from the experience we all have on here. I was beyond asking fixed questions to link onto feedback, I was genuinely interested to what shadow disliked. I shared my thoughts and what I thought would be interesting to improve the event. It's easy to say you don't like something without specifying what it is, majority of the time it's the rewards or the bugs but it's normal at this point. We will continue to report or push for any improvements that's desired, there's only so much we can do. To also add onto that-- this is feedback discussion, so anything good or bad is indicated that it's to do with feedback, we have #🆘︱sos_discussion if anyone wants to avoid the specific relation to this channel.
Being a player will always be priority over being a moderator, if there's issues in the game and you're upset about it, it's clear we too will be bothered by it. Please consider that in future. We're community based and not the board.
build your Eren
And yet....your complete response is in mod speak. You guys just don't learn do you
Your trying it on the wrong person
Redirecting me 🤣
Seriously wake up 
somtimes i feel its AI lol
Honestly doesn't it. This is my entire point
It's like talking to a robot
But they just spew the same diatribe
I'm out, going back to my cave.
Yes
beloved support team i have questions 🤣
It's fked
Been that way for months now, support keeps saying they've fixed it but it's just lies
I literally can't build towers in our own hive anymore
It's getting worse as well, happening on more states and larger parts of the map
yeah me too, nor cant we relocate to spot's with half occpied territory, let's help them to fix 🙂
It's just stupid, and not a word for FP or CMs on it
Imagine starting in a new state after downloading the game, you go to build or join your first alliance and you find that you can't even place down the HQ, let alone any towers
yeah, but i think they are up to fix it, will open another ticket tmrw about that
Their last reply was that they'll refer to tech to be looked into, after lying about fixing it beforehand
i trust our state mod and will send my own whip if needed 🤣
If I had the patience or if it was easy to do a report I'd spam them
It's stupid something like this is even happening
you can't blame dev team vs humans problem start to count on 0 or 1 problem 😂
it's just a loop problem imo
Can 100% blame dev team
😌 sometimes when you have all the day a database in front of you it aint ez to fix, and count me to dev (not sos) team 🤭
No but when a bug has existed for a very long time and your bosses ignore it in preference to more bundles and trash nobody asked for it is 100% on the team running the game
@merry scroll
When will newer states be brought at par with older states in relation to silver coins we get when donating to alliance tech?
25 donations in states older than 600 gets players 13.5k coins. Same donations in 700+ give 5.5k coins.
Since we are at the same generation of heroes, why the disparity now? It affects everything from getting behemoth companion crates to transfer passes.
This was brought up to you guys at least a year back where we were told it's due to new states' age.
We are now on the same generation as these old states. Why the difference now?
Similarly, chances for donations cap at 60/360.
I’m suing for copyright infringement
It never ends...
i do feel oppressed to be fair
you can tell just how ready they are for this new feature
everything is pre order nowadays
I think this is impossible for anyone to get.
Best can get will get you 2698 points short...
I thought it was supposed to have been dropped to 240k
Even then. 10 people per 6 states can get😅
AH will also be this week
I didn't add that in....
That will be 15,840. But even so, still makes it very difficult for most
I hit the last two badges w/ top 100 + top 20 state. I don't think that is enough this time.
If I did the math correctly, I will end at 235,796, leaving me 14,204 short. There are 5 SoTF tiers I missed, each giving 5,280 points.
So anyone that gets this badge will have to get 3 of those as well.
Ya. I missed 4 sotf tiers
pretty fun🤔 🤣 im not sure what game your playing. exact same map every time. the map doesn't zoom, when you try and walk it scrolls so doesn't send march when you want and this based on a mini game that's speed is need....then on top of that another pack added to another event just to play monster and there's barely any reward. fun? sounds like you been paid to say that. in reality that events a joke
Or the annoyance of putting together a group.
My schedule is pretty chaotic, so I try the monster, but sit around for 20+ minutes before I quit out.
for the money the devs charge people and time put in...the events they keep giving us are complete junk. im not sure what these people are on but i want some
At best, anyone getting the badge would be top 20 cross-state and top 10 in your state.
If I did the numbers correctly, you have 75,680 max points from Bloodsport and 104,615 from SvS.
So halving the badge points doesn't factor that 28,935 less points are available.
that will be my final best - 2698 short
it is kinda BS
to get 250k in stage 3
You need top 10 state and top 20 CS SOTF
it means only 20 players from a group state can get the 250k points for stage 3
They should drop us feeding frenzy this week!!
If they dropped the badge goal from 250k to 235k, that would be fair (mostly).
It would roughly match the effort needed in bloodsport that was needed for the other badges.
that should work
only 20 players getting the 250k in stage 3 per group state is BS
6 state per group state, let say there are 1000 active players in those 6 states
so out of 1000 active players, only 20 can get max MIGO points in stage 3
2% of all active players!
I tossed feedback up. It is unlikely to be changed, but I suppose we will see.
this MIGO is a failure, Tundra Exploration Center is BS
not enough coal
and this 250k point requirement for max MIGO points for stage 3
They have 100% shifted away from anything even pretending to be f2p friendly. It is all spending now.
It looks like the gen2 tanks have invisibility too! 😂
I guess I have the stealth version and you don't. 🤔
No treads or wheels. Not a tank. Classified as a mech, robot or walker. Vehicle can still fit though
Maybe some small wheels under its foot. But you are 100% right, this is not a classified definition of vehicles.
Is that the red type or blue?
it's blue type.
Hi there, does the Statue Upgrade Crystal also work on the new Pacific Rim collab statues?
Hey there Sith, let me see if I can find that for you.
They work for the RE and TMNT statues, so they should also work for Pacific Rim Statues. They are only for special event statues.
Thanks for respond Jinzo, much appreciated. Only the ones with the aura right? I tried it on the "Ninja Enigma" statue from TMNT collab and it didn't work.
Those types of frames only work on collab related items, in theory they should work on RE, Turtles and Pacific
Yes I think same
But, if we're talking about the special statue type, as in one with special skill and not march capacity, I don't think those can be upgraded unless shop refreshed and you bought more than 1 or you could get a 2nd version elsewhere
Why they asking us for our game id for the event tho? Everyone seeing it dangerous isn’t it 
No, I'm not talking about frames or statues with special skills. I'm only asking what statues do the "Statue Upgrade Crystals" work on. I'm thinking of getting the Gipsy Avenger cause I want that aura.
We gotta information that its okay to leave Player ID now
They should be used for the pacific rim status.
Maybe an easier way to get sentinels as F2P. 😐
I think it’s cute how they recycled all boost coins just to open boost event next day
🙄 With +40 events and +100 packs around, I wander how quick people will find this? And how many will give a damn to it, actually
Well the devs won't fix it at any rate.
I stopped looking there after 1 day. If they didnt recycle that coins I, probably, would consider for 1 whole second, but thanks, but no, thanks🤣
Astro store is up. I usually like getting 1 fortelling out of it. But theres no way to earn anything at all this time.
Day 4 of pacific rim
Number of giant robots 0
Number of kaiju 0
Prizes, suck
The one thing we can do is this power core RNG garbage and you aren't even offering them for event currency.
Honestly this is hyper boring. I hope the guys who own the license fine you for failure to deliver
With so many bundles now it is impossible to know which one is best to buy. So I stopped spending my 5-10€ per month.
So slow down on things and you might make more money
I wonder how they will make it even harder next migo 😆
Not harder, but they will raise price for weekly pass to 20€ instead
Oh it's gonna be harder. Remove nexus, keep mines in the state at same count. Make tundra to 140 with all rally cap features unlocked above 100
Any collab statue they should work on, but some you need different upgrade items for
Removing nexus is kinda a positive mind you. It just comes with an overall loss of mines.
Considering they designed a state event badge to be won by 20 people out of 6 states' populace, this is gonna get worse.
Is this you guessing or confirmed?
Still, we've now had 6 months of winter, we should be into summer and no longer need a boiler or mining
I assume nexus won't come back at least, but next migo will probs be fk if they don't do anything with conversion rates
Just hoping they chuck the mining. S--- mechanic
Is it possible to get Journeys end to 250k? Was 3rd/15th on sotf, but still need 78k this week
Nexus removal is being talked about, apparently been conveyed to folks with the higher GM access. To be replaced with alliance duels.
If mining was just crystals it be k, some extra work for a bit more rewards ain't too bad
🤷🏽♂️
Next migo, all vehicles in game will be EVs. In order to march, we need to buy a charging station for 999 diamonds. 😂
Duels was better than nexus. Its still not very good
Allaince duels is ok, least not as time consuming and "easier" matchmaking 😅
But, with tower bug ongoing going to be a pain to even place it down I imagine 😂
They also need to fix the "can't play because" issue where you can't play/earn points and its out of your control
I want to be able to attack alliance towers for personal merits
Reward wise Nexus was better. Especially, if you got lucky with matchmaking
Rewards are changeable and unaffected by gameplay. Nexus had s--- gameplay. Duels could just get a rewards change
Rewards matter very little when there's no game to be played after the first day of nexus though
In ad you can choose which level of opponents suit you at any given time.
Nothing given in nexus will change 99% of battle outcomes either.
The rewards are illusionary at best because they do not keep pace with the power creep/ stat inflation brought by new items.
First 2 nexus for us was fine, all alliances below 100B. The 2 after that alliances from 20-250B fighting on same map. No chance at all for us small to even get a city 5, last week we hardly had our checkpoint 1
Nexus is too un reliable unless they fix matchmaking and actually make it fair, until that happens some simply will not get points for all nexus sessions or the odd one here and there
Including AH, which will show up at reset, there are 107k points available this week, so you should be fine.
I'm of the opinion that both Duels and Nexus are completely functional as ideas and events, but if and only if they were developed with the intent to be actual game components.
Nothing in this game is developed for the benefit of the players or our enjoyment, despite that this is a video game. And that's why things like Alliance Duels and Nexus Struggle will simply never work for us. This stopped being a video game when it became an unpaid full time job.
The devs don't care about what creates a balance in gameplay, because they profit off the imbalance.
They even ignore their own paid employees, why would they listen to us? Because we give them money? Ha. We've shown we'll give them money even when they don't.
Duels also had strategy in betting amounts and picking opponents.
Small alliances, with good planning, could rank quite well.
🤔 Same for us. 1st 2 Nexuses were ok, 3rd we got 130-190BP alliances, now we have 3 alliances with more than 200BP, one of them closer to 300BP.... rest 9 alliances are less than 100BP
Duels had a couple of issues.the biggest was missing out which could be done 3 ways
You don't bid enough and lose all choices. No game for you
You bid on someone and win, but they never built the stuff, also game over.
The above 2 are ok, but the entire alliance just bubbled and didn't play. RIP all points.
The first one is awkward to fix, the second is easy. The 3rd is easier still as you just divorce team points from attacking humans and add in a few more ways to score individual merits
For all the big alliances in nexus. It's not good move to take checkpoint 1 from your small weak opponents. Then we can't even get out and get burned for points 😄
Nexus needs a full change of gameplay to make it fun. I can link my novel if anyone wants to read it
Fix the matchmaking and cut the overall event time in half. Those two alone would make it far more enjoyable.
The stupid timing and the fact that teams simply get left out of playing as they lose sucks
let me ask dev team. could you please give me 2 specific state number for them to track?
107/763
This affects all states after 700 as far as I know.
So at the very least till 862 the donations should be giving the same amount of coins
Yep that’s another lie. Not any alliance mine in all migo
Blissful bags still same. You can sit on those 3 keys. Coz we can’t do anything with them
As long as people spend on it they will keep shoving into event line up
Its kinda annoying to have 5 event passes to complete every day. On the other hand, we can just ignore them and get the free rewards, so i don't even know am i annoyed or not
I could tell them an idea how to keep Blissful and some events similar or planned similarly to it in rotation and improve revenue on it but they won't give me my dev chat so why should I
Anyone know how this rubbish is used??
I think it's in the actual frame screen and only for the Collab frames? Someone had this yesterday, lemme see if I can find that post here
#📋︱feedback-discussion message
Ah replies a little ways down, it's in Collection screen
Every time they give me a frame or statue crystal, I can never use it. Well it’s a waste cause idc about the frame…
Thanks 🙏
It's the same situation in our state. I’m from 667. The amount of silver decreased after the merger
When will we get our 3 astro coins as compensation😅
Who would've thought... after all this time... Nexus is the best thing that happened this MIGO... tundra/seasonal badge/research project is nothing but a tragedy...
Took checkpoint 1 in 5 mins..now watching clock to see an hour waste away..should have made 2 buildings one day
Well, I'll cut research project some lack cause we get free biocaps... but as for tundra/seasonal badge... completely useless and a total downgrade compared to last MIGO
What's funny is that if complete all badges but the 100/100 research and lvl120 tundra, you get 7.9K points🤡
And do we have any news on Alliance mine? This is the last week👀
If we had normal conversion rates then nexus be even more uselss
I assume no alliance mine, not a surprise really
As of now, Nexus is the best event this MIGO... I think it's a great event
It's the glory that makes the event great... as far as tundra items are concerned nexus doesn't give enough either... cause no one's getting to lvl 100 without paying
I'm going to the beach... I almost started ranting again
Well, it was expected. Top 1 - 4K points, to get rewards for top 1 - you need 6K points🤣
Event dead 5 min after it was born
Same in my group as well. Only one person got 4k points 😂
I'm not sure how this is harassment, but w/e.
revenue shrinking like ice cream on a hot summer day 😂
Cross-state, nobody even reached 3k.
Wasted money 
Least they have a nice dragon skin for 30 days, totally worth the few hundred they spent or thousands
Nexus could be great, nexus is also needs better glory rewards given usual state ranking badges aren't enough
It is different this time , some worked on older collab
Mine worked on pizza one
That would be why I said they worked on Collab frames 😅
Sorry
Previously They worked only on same collab , I thought you meant that , my apologies 🙏
We have whales... but top 1 in our state - 959 points. I think all whales bought everything needed 1st time and for low & medium it's too expensive and not worth.
Whales don't buy everything. They do spend more than the average spender, but some whales might just be smart spenders😅
yee. But come on, only unique things there are that dragon set and that all, rest you can get elsewhere and I suspect for less money
Also whales already have everything
They just wanted the permanent skin for collection and bonuses
Yeah, but if you spent 4K, you got like what? 60000 coins?
You could empty the shop 😂
My result as F2P🤣
Take a hit from 70s collector lvl whale
Then take a hit from maxed whale above 80 collector lvl and 1K moral
Second whale hits at least 3x harder than first whale
Maxed whales be on the 90s now
I’ll be sure to report on the stats
We have a few of them in our nexus
I've seen multiple lvl 85 collection whales with 1000 moral
Not 90 but fully maxed
Keep reaching for the stars 🤗😂
Morale doesn’t mean much, it’s more about whether you’ve picked up stats from collection or not
High statue level and guardians and all that
Collection is not 100% accurate though
I've seen some players in 60s collectors beat 70s. And some 70s beat 80s. Or 80s beat a 90 collector...
But usually a pretty accurate indicator
There really isn't much difference between 85 and 90 except for some skins... I don't even know what bonus you get for reaching lvl90😅
I got the same number
Moral is just a 10% boost if you have higher than enemy, but if you have 1K that means you have all the stuff maxed😅
Hello Azayji! 
As Liannin alredy said (thank you
) the Upgrade Crystal Frame or Statue can be used only on specific type of Frames or Statue, like the RE Collab, TMNT collab etc.
I also wonder why state transfer is so expensive...
when i see what it costs me as a P8 i cant imagine for a maxed player...
To force futher spending to move of course
Maxed player would need gov invite because their rating above 1b
How much does it cost for you?
at last transfer i needed 24 tickets if i wanted to transfer. But it was weeks ago. Im at 333 millions migration score. I know its low.
yea, very low spender but most f2p
if i read correctly i will need 27 tickets this time
If you stay low plasma level, you can keep your migration rating low. But at the same time, lvl8 troops have much lower base stats compared to lvl 13-15
yup, i could resist to a p13 but now vs the p15 its impossible to not burn as a p8. I saw it in nexus.
I stayed as a p8 to not be a easy target in svs when i hunted by big boys but now i ask really myself if it couldnt be better to upgrade as a p9 ou more max p10.
P15 definitely made a lot of difference
yes too much
As for surviving hits, the only way is to upgrade HQ and troop level. Focus on hunter lethality/atk and infantry HP/def
i need to see what i can get with upgrading as a p9 if it helps a bit for stats
You have T11 or T12
Use effortless progress with T12 research. It saves a lot
i saw the stats to upgrading these troops on p9 it will improve these stats. Think i will do it when i will have all necessary for it. Plasma research is maxed for p8
yup its what i will do in the next weeks. I save a lot for svs and sotf
I would recommend going for P13 or even P15. Plasma research is not really worth it anymore. You can do the main branch (leth/hp and cannon), but skip the rest😅
How is your aircraft formation? Reached 230 yet?
im very vey low for aircraft i know its something i need to upgrade too. Only 162.
Wow, 800s already "old" states
I think it will be state merges for a lot of states in 2 weeks. 12 weeks ago it was only a bunch of “high” numbers states. But 24 weeks ago it was state merges from state 1 to 700 or something like that. Think a lot of those that didn’t get it 24 weeks ago will get in in 2 weeks.
Gen skip is a terrific thing
Does anyone know off the top of their head how many states are left? I could go count them if I am really inclined to.
Is there merge state list already?
Last merging was up to 1150. So, you can divide 1150 on 3 or 4. Hot state now 1324
No, they love to tell us about state merge 2 days before it happens. All to make sure we can’t plan anything
I would expect to lose anywhere from 50-100 of them in new merges.
If I counted weeks correct, last time they actually announced state merge on Thursday of last migo week. So maybe info this week if we are lucky. And merges July 22nd
Oh wow, these new states didn't wait long for a merge lol
You should let people do that to their moms if they want
New states die even faster than old, the rate of releases is somehow even more ridiculous
1040 already has P15 and a couple of players on top LBs
a guy in 1082 is 11th in ranking of bp.
Maybe he quit after realizing 500k wasn’t enough to reach 1st place
think he is dev to make players spend more and new states still spend
Yikes...
697 only moderate. DYZ killing the state???
Long time ago, I think.
Around year ago. They even made video
Even our dead state say lively. And we have problem filling rallies on all buildings in svs
Its all just fake buzz words they throw around, best way to actually know is to talk to someone who's in the state
Too many players playing Farmvile ?
Goes by top 70 strongest players
So if state has 70 players that are very active and decent stats then you are screwed lol
That’s what devs consider active state..70 people
I'm not even top 70

Its dead state but they refuse to understand that
they could do cc from hive
and bunkers also
so 2 events of game they dont play
oh my god 🫨 🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨
CC was best event in game
but now its dead event
because Devs and FP greedy and dumb
they give us Nexus with dumb matchmaking
The only reason I do it is because I still need badge tags. But, I'm close to that not being an reason either.
Cc is garbage event with outdated rewards
I said before.. now yes its bad
its nap time if ur a very strong alliance. I knew guys that they have CC during the night, woke up for it, went in a tower, go to sleep again and when they woke up they were still in tower 😅
before could kick anyone out by double rally..
I was agreeing with your now statement lol
now yes could send and sleep if too strong 🤣
sent report about update rewards but they ignored
Really??? I recycled thousands of those since we don’t get certificates
Me either
I will try trust that 
The funny thing is that I have all the certs I need 😂
10570 tags and 23 certificates
Only riders badges left, so done in a year from now 🙂
so 5 - 6 years need to complet badges? 👀
You don’t get these?
we get it here
I do. I think I have 8 more weeks or so of them and I will have enough to max badges.
More there than wasting full day at cc
True. I just am weird and like to cause myself unnecessary pain. 😂
not about rewards only.. event was better before than now
It used to be fun when we could pop a whale out of a tower with a well-timed double.
Maybe some fight at cc if we get state merge. Now everyone already know results of every rally before they even arrive
yes and double rally dont work anymore
Do anyone still fight for bunkers and facilities?
no one
Our state only has 4 active alliances, so we just split them amongst each other and rally from our hives.
A few time we rally race for first occupancy. But then the weakest go home. Most of the times from hive instead
This for me is one of the realest statements I heard all day 😂
Nah. Maybe a year or so for an active player.
F2p*
cant imagin how many years need to max behmoth 🤣
i am sure about it .. f2p need 5 years at least for max badges
and active f2p without miss any event
I started 5 months ago, I'm currently with one red badge. Preparing for red gear and full badges soon
started in old state?
its easy get 6 red in old states now.. hard to max it.. you need honor badge and only event to get it is migo and you get 50 only
50 every 3 months
with throwdown and migo .. total could be 100 every 3 months
I’ve been playing for a little over 3 years and still have not finished my badges, in my defense though I’m a really bad player when it comes to upgrading stuff lol
nah started in old state.. in new state need 2 years to get 1 red
then 2 or 3 more to max it
I focused on gear first instead of stuff for badges. I get sidetracked easily though and end up forgetting about them and doing other things
well somtimes cant take badges from migo store ....
there behmoth, formation system, etc
Started June 29 2020, have 11 upgrades left on badges. Not F2P, but low spender. I guess 1k€ in 4 years counts as low in this game, but pretty much for a game
Hero gear and chief gear only thing maxed. And 2 heroes, except syringes, also maxed
This is all I have from my tiny F2P collection😅
I have maxed hero gear and chief gear and t11 research

CR7
Hero gear was easy enough to max after they changed the prizes for trap
hey 
Certificates remain stingy. Because apparently once something makes its money nobody else is allowed it
seems so

Is nexus bugged again? In one acc i can port to all the city 5 territory of all alliances but in the other i cant go anywhere except own alliance 5 section, why?
Again? When has it not been bugged. The whole event is a bug
whole event is bugged
tomorrow 1 alliance will take all lvl 5 as always
they should not be able to do that.. but hey Devs gave up and did not even send compensation last Nexus
we have bugged event 
Operation festival is up and running and yet they give us the wrong store. Still pearls

Is feeding frenzy weekly now?
No clue...still not enough for most to get the tier 3 badge this stage.
Are we supposed to be able to spend our crimson gems somewhere lmao
I assume when the store "resets"
I reported that
This is the one event that is at least decent in terms of pearls and other rewards.
They also supposed to restocked the pearl shop but guess people lack any brain cells to have common sense
No crimsom store??
We can stack them to be recycled soon
Why can't we report MIGO broadcasts like this? Click on the offending post, there's no 'report chat' option.
Please upvote about Crimson issue + also recommend open ticket to cs
You can report this to cs via opening ticket
You can't use words that describe this game
Please keep chat family friendly
seriously
Of course,server have rules which everyone must stick
What do you mean by category?
You can send the msg to them directly via email
Whether they choose to read it depends on them like devs ever appear here to read anyone of our feedback
ok, I'm the bad guy
I sent them one already
Good luck, I wonder how many of your feedback they responded to
There's plenty of ways to bypass server restrictions on calling out fart+ 
💩 💩 + it is!
Maybe im missing something, but where can you use the Crimson gem in "operation festival" event?
Had all tasks finished yet no red dot. Almost missed on some free rewards and anything free is rare in here :p
Thanks for the reminder. I almost missed it too
I just sent a group message to my alliance as well about it.
It feels like they opened festival evwnt but forgot about shops :p
Even pearl shop that it is redirecting to is old one that started few days before festival event because event started today and no behemoth frags for me in shop, they are already bought out
talking here, I lost lvl 9 mines, and I can't find any available ones, wasn't this also as feedback?
I report it, you report it, no one listens 😬
but I will write 💩
and they will delete your entry 👍
💩💩💩💩💩for dev, for fp, and for your censorship
exactly the same approach, communism and nazism have it, you can't express your opinion
welcome to the 21st century 😬
as a man, I can identify as a pregnant lesbian, but I cannot write 💩
😂😂
all that because lvl 9 mine?
remove the game bro
What the actual fq. So now devs doing what they did in boost bundles, instead of putting it for 1 gem for 70 speedups , now you need to have 10 for 300 speedups, or else say good bye to the gems
There's your mistake play for fun? Not much fun in this game lately and play for you not for others....I know people say they play for others but they play to grow there own account in reality
You play together
feeding frenzy 3week in a row
Yeah Devs are trying to bore us to death.....I think the bloke who pushed the button on what events start and when has been replaced by a bot without a watch to save money
true, another repeating event is a joke
valentine, pinball and now operation festival, no wonder player from oldest state quit
I think they try to get that difference for 250K in MIGO
Not sure it's even scratch the bottom
They'd need to drastically increase the rewards for completing tasks. Throwing in frenzy won't solve anything at all.
Now, changing sotf and svs prizes to remove rankings for migo. Its a world event. It doesn't need rankings. If people play the game they should reach the prizes. Fancier prizes are for money.
F---plus want to have their cake and eat it. Basic prizes and fancy prizes for money
I was playing coins for weekly store. But ignoring for 2 weeks 🤣
Like valentines in June, I see we now have a ghost sentinel. So Halloween in July then!
Prepare for Christmas in August people! 🤣
why is Operation Festival only 4 days? Is that another bug or what? the timer shows 5 days, but since we have only 4 days in surprise tasks that mean people with sentinel can't even buy a statue as a reward? cause day 5 will be for shopping only? 🤦♀️
Search in nexus is busted. Heres a mine 320km away, you can't use it. I shall ignore the one that is 27km away and actually available
Intentionally programmed that way to make people go for the speed buffs from explorer. Else it's not needed if you're walking 10s to the closest mines
Its worse when you can't march to the one miles away anyway because its around the lvl5 and its inaccessible
Migo ends in 5 days and I don’t even have a level 32 boiler. Have to love that conversion rate
if because of MIGO, they should start to sync with all state tho
even some whale in my old state can't handle pearl event
same lol, to bad f2p pass reward not so great
SSDD… same 💩 different day 😂
WTF is Desert Survival - what a joke!
So many events this week?
So Dino, Azurtane then Nexus fight - we do have a life Devs?
This week I am taking a break this is beyond insanity!
Oh and don’t forget the Rim job lmao
Desert Survival is a nightmare of lag and bugs, not worth the time it takes to play
I couldn’t stop laughing it was so pathetic
Hi Mary!
Desert Survival is basically instead of PoW. Since it's new there are some lags and bugs (many already found here: #🐞︱bug-reporting )
Additionally, we have an own group where you can state your opinion about it. #🌵︱desert-survival
Admittedly, in my state most play 5 times for the crates and then leave it be. And a warning: leave your "Team" after each match or even 3 matches are counted as one for some. 
Hi Natsu.
Shall I write a feedback for you about this? Additionally you can also write your own feedback if you want to in #📋︱feedback-reporting - here is the format for it: #📋︱feedback-how-to message
I support proposition to increase rewards for most of events. Again.
Make them harder mechanics wise if needed, but give rewards worthy of time invested.
I am still waiting for the fun, that the Devs are supposed to be adding to the game. When you have played long enough most events are unplayable because you are already maxed out
Their dev feedback talks are so usefull 🤣
People asking about updating rewards in old events, horde in this example.
Their answer? We are looking into it 🤣 How long they need to finally do something? 3 years?
It is already at least 1 year that everyone in my alliance stopped caring about horde. It is just running in background while people normaly do their dailies if they happen to be online
If not then noone logging in specially for it
This I guess would be the same input they asked for when creating and delivering Nexus. /end sarcasm
Horde isn’t the only an event which rewards sux.
There are too much events, rewards has to be reupdated
someone knows the issues when you will join Nexus and it says "Oops you are in a tactical group" so you cant join Nexus
Pow team maybe?
there is no Pow
I got that message when i was in nexus and invited to a team for pow so idk
There is 👀
The human monster version
not for me 😅
Train?
Checking
Gonna be worse now, to get rewards you need 100K points lol something like that
This migo has been by far the worst ever. Nexus is a trash event. Impossible enough coal and limestone. Buts what is worst is the conversion rate. Just a terrible migo.
You know what is really irritating, the op festival button switching with the festive bazaar button so when you want to go into the event page the fricking shop comes up and all you wanted to do was join a brawler rally. The bazaar is in the op festival page, why does it need it’s own “shortcut”. It’s giving me rage!
Loooool just seen the mansion updates, so you can get music but you'll have to pay for it! Please fix the game before adding these superficial things
Where do you want us to stick them?
Yes I agree with everything you said
Nexus is very bad but in same time this Migo was my best one from getting glory point I was able to get the premium Migo skin
Too many events
how about make pow and desert survival running on the same time
win or lose got 2* reward 
Welp, nexus is the best thing that is in this migo. At least you get more glory compared to last time
Okay I can agree with that
The other stuff this migo (tundra/seasonal badges) are just complete tragedies. You get nothing
If you are decently matched, yes
These 2 alliances are in the same Nexus map
I stopped gathering tundra mats from last week I am getting Crystal to get Tempest stuff
This will never happened I never got decent matches I am trying just to kill troops with the lowest member from the opponent
About seasonal badges, for the 1st time seems I will unlock all, I bought the 2 migo passes and ranked in some events
Seasonal badges is impossible
If you complete all tasks except for research project and lvl 120 tundra (which both require spending money), you get 7.9K points🤡
Most epic fail ever I would say
But you're a spender
F2P players will not even be close with any of those P2W tasks
I've only bought the 2 migo season crates
And as I've said ranked enough high in sotf and svs warfare
That requires even more money spent
Yes without the 2 migo crates seems really hard
Yes or just save a lot
Nothing wrong with spending money or adding P2W stuff, but I think after 3 months, F2P should be able to get SOMETHING from the tundra/seasonal badge even if it is on the last day
Right now we are getting nothing. It's sad...
You can save 1 season ans spend the other season
My explanation project is 88
Yes, but even if you save for 3 years and rank top 5 in all 3 soft and svs, you will still not be able to complete the research or lvl 120 tundra
Which means you get 7.9k pts...
Which is just not enough
Yes at least we should able to get some Glory points based on how close are we about complete the achievement
You can never finish tundra without spending the conversion rate is joke
Yes make it harder but this is impossible
Conversion rate is a joke
No alliance mine
Buildings too expensive
Tons of feedback submitted in the last 2 months
And what has happened?
You should know by now whatever you say about Migo
They will try to fix next season||AD was the only one who they tried to fix in middle of Migo||



