#📋︱feedback-discussion

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vale yoke
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They don't actually care about that though. This was developed a while ago. Nothing they release was developed the week before release; they're planned in advance so they can be coded - I assume for maximum bugginess.

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Because it certainly isn't for smooth sailing

stable cosmos
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Maximum bundles

vale yoke
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So they've just had desert survival hanging out in the office for what, three months? And it's not like the interns they hire are given tools to circumvent the prevalent bugs in the game and mitigate worsening DS.

sly fossil
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if this was developed many moons ago, they must have some s* devs tho. As everything, and I repeat EVERYTHING, they release is bugged. So it feels more accurate to say they came up with this yesterday afternoon at the daily toilet visit and quickly made something

vale yoke
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This company is a huge fan of the belief that "it's better to ask forgiveness than permission"

stable cosmos
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Its not greyed out within nexus like all the other "cannot play from nexus" events, yet you cannot play from nexus.

unreal lichen
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Buy the 4.99 bug repellent pack like I do. Game is much smoother that way.

sly fossil
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its cheaper to quit and just come in for a chat, Kenny lol

vale yoke
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Just because it feels more accurate doesn't mean it is. Why else would I be so good at "guessing" what's coming up, unless I were a secret dev (very obviously not) or they follow a formula and time frame with their development like every other company does

sly fossil
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altho, even the chat is bugged.

stable cosmos
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They release and only ever return by accident. Behemoth trials for eg. Its bad but it worked, they've lost a texture for the white lines.

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Given the messes they make, probably no tracking of named constants and someone is calling things X or Y when those were defined 4 years ago

sly fossil
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even duct tape and tyraps would do a better job at fixing current game then the devs do atm.

stable cosmos
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Cos stuff breaks and its like "how on earth did you break that, its unrelated to your new garbage"

sly fossil
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I wonder thol if a mass money back claim on false advertisement of a working game would change their mind. And if its even possible

sly fossil
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don't reply to that, was a wild thought.

vale yoke
stable cosmos
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They do have a lot of spaghetti. But as usual competent development avoids that problem. And competent management or team leads more so. Someone who'll look at a request and say "nope, can't deliver that it'll break stuff"

vale yoke
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They did that on purpose

sly fossil
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nah, you can get do it easier if you go via your App store. Like Apple store, google store . .huawai etc. Then they collect the claims and do it as one for ya

vale yoke
stable cosmos
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Their tou is written to be vague as hell so they can wrangle it to mean all sorts of stuff

vale yoke
stable cosmos
sly fossil
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I've stopped my money flow to the game years ago. So to me it doesn't really matter anymore. But the bs they pull over new players and even old players is amazing

vale yoke
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It's what they do. It's what they've always done.

stable cosmos
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In every game they make.

vale yoke
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It's a problem now because it's so obvious, but some of us have been bleating into the abyss about it for years

sly fossil
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Im not playing every game, I'm playing this game.

vale yoke
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And this game is a reskin of the game before, and that was a reskin of the game before...

stable cosmos
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I just hope They'll release something which had a lot of cash poured in and nobody plays it, cos they've ostracized their entire player base

vale yoke
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This is all learned behavior. They have been shown for a decade that people will pay silly money for pixels, and who's really gonna say they're wrong? Look at their revenue, falling as it is.

sly fossil
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but nowadays most companies sell you an unfinished buggy software product. and then after they recieved your money, they do a few updates and then abandon the project. Good example is Ubisoft. They're masters in this.

vale yoke
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All 5 or 6 versions of this game spoofed just so when our players leave, the company can say "hey this was an open beta we're closing down but you can port your account to this actual game called SoS"

stable cosmos
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I'm too old school. In my brain $100 is a full game release. Paying $129 for part of a feature does NOT work in my head

sly fossil
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same Cyan

vale yoke
sly fossil
vale yoke
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Also same, Cyan. I'm used to paying upwards of $200 for a collectors edition with a ton of swag and additional dlc. And that's it.

vale yoke
sly fossil
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awwww, do we have to? its weekend...

vale yoke
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Ohhh okayyy

sly fossil
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lol

stable cosmos
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I should be going to bed...

sly fossil
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G'nite bud

vale yoke
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Get some sleep, Cyan. Your continued health is so much more important than a silly game or even a game discord.

stable cosmos
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Night. Half past midnight is late enough

sly fossil
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for your age, that's really late! 😛

vale yoke
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snort

stable cosmos
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At 40, yeah. Shoulda gone to bed 5 hours ago 🤣

vale yoke
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sips in silence

sly fossil
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no comment either...

vale yoke
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No one prepared me for waking up at the butt crack of too early when I got old. What's that about?

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Can go to bed at any time, and still wake up at 6:30a like I've got a job

sly fossil
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time really does fly when you get to a certain age

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ok, outa here - have a nice weekend.

vale yoke
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You too, Andro. It's always good to see you around these parts. Hope your weekend is as wonderful as you are

sly fossil
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🤗

unique slate
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another useless event "path of water"

inner yoke
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its amazing, matching as the monster right now, 12 minutes so far and still going. At least at this rate I wont ever have to worry about buying extra tickets to play as the monster

silent pike
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It does take long to match as a monster, hopefully it will get quicker as more people go through their attempts

cloud ridge
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Spend money to more likley lose...

misty pewter
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Most likely it’s cos players are doing cc now 😂

hasty tulip
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We need option to report afk players

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This topic is 1.5y old and devs don't give a f.. about it

warm sequoia
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Desert Survival is a lazy horrible addition. Ships sailing through sand haha did not even make an effort to change them into something else. DEV's need to get there fingers out

unreal lichen
vale yoke
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One step closer to Dune?

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He who controls the spice... Controls survival

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I stg I want royalties from that.

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Oh wait, they have their other game they're making where everyone is an intergalactic trader... Well, I'm sure they'll have us test stuff.

misty pewter
vale yoke
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God I hope not

pseudo mist
# hasty tulip

Hi Jawor.
Since the feedback has been a while, shall I write up a new one for you?

fathom frost
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I don't really see desert survival any fun if I'm being honest...

Like I'm pretty sure monsters will like 99% of all matches.. All you need to do is kill and boom you got 20k lol

pallid willow
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What’s fun tho

winter canyon
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⛱️

fathom frost
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True lol... What is fun

pallid willow
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Revenge is fun 😌

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Only fun recently in the game 🤣

winter canyon
pallid willow
winter canyon
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Here or in DM?

winter canyon
tawny citrus
zealous plover
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Finding match as monster is impossible 🥹

hoary flint
tawny citrus
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Tnx

winter canyon
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He stole my crate so I paid him a visit yesterdayBlushFrog

unreal lichen
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Well if you solo 3.5 million does that make you a whale? 🐳

potent wharf
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I realise this has been discussed before but nothing seems to have been done about stamina recovery in game, and with more stamina required the game is becoming more a drudgery than a fun game, This does not seem to be taken seriously or any solution, developers really need to address this as the issue has still not been addressed, players are constantly frustrated because stamina will not recover and no compensation is given for this, can someone please look into this asap

north moss
potent wharf
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it has already been done multiple times, but no resolution

north moss
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That's a really good report. I would have a defeat nervoussip

winter canyon
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I waited 2 weeks😅

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First time I attacked someone in KE this year

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Haven't been attacking in svs/ke lately because i need to save troops

north moss
north moss
potent wharf
winter canyon
potent wharf
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thanks it shows us little guys can still win from time to time

north moss
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We definitely can

steel musk
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definitely can not

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141k so no behmoth

woven spire
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Joker olly jeb to💀

winter canyon
mighty gorge
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Please Please Please, stop resetting all the god damn frames and decorations and marches so I have to clear all the red dots

foggy osprey
tropic echo
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So Pacific rim posted about their sos collaboration on their Facebook page, ppl can go and comment how awful and the pay wall it is there just saying

stable cosmos
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Now that sounds like something that would hurt f---plus. They don't control the narrative on that page

vale yoke
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I gotta go, uh, check my, uh... Brb

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So.

cloud ridge
foggy osprey
stable cosmos
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Feedback to f---plus on an already running collab will do nothing. It may cause minor changes for the collab happening in 2 years time but this is doubtful.

Posting on the pacific rim fb page however will notify the pacific rim people that f---plus are sods and may actually inflict some lasting pain on them.

vale yoke
foggy osprey
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Upvoted PepeCute

vale yoke
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Thank you!! I'll check out the two you posted as well

foggy osprey
weak ingot
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Funplus won’t listen to us

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Pacific rim might tho

cloud ridge
# foggy osprey Here are some feedbacks regarding this collab if you would like to upvote - ht...

Already upvoted, but thank you. Doesn't mean anything anyway, FP openly lie in their dev updates about slowing down, hearing us, reducing events, fixing bugs etc.

In an ideal world we could nuke them and move the game to another company who would actually try and fix things as opposed to stuffing as much rubbish as you can into this "scam game" before it literally breaks.

Take this desert survival event, just another pow, I don't mind it to be fair but it's very boring and the novelty wears off after a few matches.

Three ways to make it better (technically 4):

1 | Add more monster classes and maps.

2 | Make it so you can fully play with friends, being a full team of humans and monsters so the whole allaince can play and most likely enjoy it more.

Could even look into making it a 6 v 2?

3 | Much like POW the rewards are awful. Make them better and relevant.

4 | Delete the event and stop adding new events. We don't have enough days in the year to play everything.

cloud ridge
# weak ingot Pacific rim might tho

We should make it a point for any collab to go to the publisher and spam how awful of an idea it is to work with FP before the event goes live and during it.

spice saffron
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Anyone know what happened to the supposedly new alliance management chat? I was looking forward to it, but it looks like it was scrapped now?

olive sluice
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no money to earn with that one...

unreal lichen
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I am looking forward to the new alliance chat too. It's still not release yet. Taking so long.ChickCry

cloud ridge
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One of the other many lies with updates they do, often when they say x will happen, it usually never does or it comes down the road a much later time

spice saffron
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Gotcha, I shouldn’t be surprised at this point… 🤦‍♀️

cloud ridge
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I just dont get why they even bother saying they'll do x when they have no actual intention to, if only it was easy to report them for misleading and lying about things and get them booted

unreal lichen
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I am getting used for it. Plan is not plan any more. No big different with my real life. But I don't mind. It's a game eventually. I can accept that. But I do hope all the bugs go away.

stable cosmos
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QoL improvements are always at least 3-4 major updates from the announcement. New bundles get added when and as they feel like it. Money making events arrive within the next update.

Stuff we don't care about is not announced and just shows up. Alliance hall, mansion etc

cloud ridge
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Also, can they fix the bloody alliance tower and territory bug, makes me wanna die

unreal lichen
stable cosmos
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Astro wheel is back. That used to be part of a larger event by itself. Chinese new year or whatever. Something that had at least some importance. Now its weekly?

I shouldn't expect otherwise but this isn't going to increase revenue

steel musk
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well they try.. they dont have anything to lose 😂

misty pewter
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Did they add another lucky draw with frags with better odds cos not enough players were buying? 😂

static barn
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Great now I can post because of an accidental swear

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*cant

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Trying again

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This is popping up after the timer runs out on explorer mission during plague zone. Yes I have shut down and restarted the game. Neither account can finish explorer mission this pops up. All that Stamina is now wasted🤬

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Adding that plague zones are the only FREE was to get the parts for chief gear

grim steppe
static barn
grim steppe
static barn
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Not worth it. Just p.o. that after almost 5 years of game play the most simple of tasks it still glitchy

grim steppe
sturdy saddle
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So... I did 4 hammer hits yesterday and it didn't count towards the solo points

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is it a bug or something

rapid phoenix
stable cosmos
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Pacific rim is terrible. Why am i not in a giant robot already.

Heres how it should have gone
Mini starter quest. Play 5 preset levels of explorer trail. These tell a story and walk you through finding the jaeger pilots. Finding a power supply and some parts for repair then finishing on finding the jaeger itself.

After this the mini game becomes a target shooter of incoming zombies with no paywall. Paying lets you speed this section up or increase rewards.

After surviving the zombie waves a kaiju should show up and we use the sword to attack and block attacks in a reaction game. Speed of completion and zombies killed/damage taken defines how many event bits you get. You can repeat... lets say 5 times a day at increasing difficulty.

Thats a mobile game thing thatd be interesting and more importantly engages you with the collab content immediately.

Unlock the jaeger skin which does nothing after completing 10 levels. Unlock special skins by earning a ton of extra bits

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What we have instead.

Devs: hurr hurr rng go brrrr

lavish heron
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Or some are bi-weekly

forest kiln
stable cosmos
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All their bundle events just suck. Nothing fun. No gameplay at all. Buy stuff press the RNG button, repeat

winter canyon
vernal moss
vernal moss
# forest kiln Some going non stop... I'm sure we had it during this week. And we had lucky car...

With this event being thrown at ua constantly, it’s concerning to why the keys are being recycled when we only get a small amount for free 🙈 not a great design frankly. But with practice it’s an aggressive tactic to get the little bits you need to win in SoTF ranking.

Have you made any posts in #📋︱feedback-reporting regarding this event and your thoughts on how useful/less it is, what should be done about it and its currencies?

vernal moss
vernal moss
# winter canyon omfg

Each time someone tries to switch the skill I’ve never seen this to be a better option which is harsh, it doesn’t help that they cost more each time to see the same generic options the next time you try.
It really should give one good option and one worse to make it fair every time. Might not be a better stat option but definitely a good option to still consider to make it worth while.

winter canyon
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I get 2 of the worst possible stats to choose from. I wasted 80 solutions for this!ChickCry

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Reforge should never give worse options... we use items for what...

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To get worse stats? No thanks. I decided to keep the old stat because it was 10x better than either of the two new options. I want all my 80 solutions back!

vernal moss
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That’s the unfortunate route we’ve been taken on with rng. Realistically the two options should be;

  1. Better version of your current stat
  2. A random other skill, random stat %
winter canyon
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Either that. Or give 100% of the solutions back when keeping the old stat because both new stats are worse

vernal moss
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That would be great, it should actually be the norm honestly

stable cosmos
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TA is stuffed anyway. Rng inside rng. Not only do you not know which stat you'll get you also have no idea if it'll even be good. Then you level it up 10 times with difficult material and hope that some of those are good. Finally you use an incredibly expensive item which goes RNG again and you may get something that invalidates the rest of the equipment.

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All TA should have the same level of stats on offer. The only rng should be which of those stats you get, not how good they are. The final "skill" should be heavily influenced by the stats you got leading up to it, or even a direct pick, its not like the syringe thing is cheap

stable cosmos
winter canyon
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Getting 1.5 troop defense or 12 troop health... this is literally humiliating

misty pewter
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2nd gen TA skills rng has been nerfed beyond belief….

stable cosmos
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Whee, i spent actual money or thousands upon thousands of earned items and my TA is now worse than useless. Auction or recycle. Its so bad

winter canyon
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Get a 2% troop defense frame for 100 pearls or use 2k pearls on essence and get 1.5% troop defense🤡

misty pewter
winter canyon
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All purple stats can be good if they are all hunter lethality or infantry HP

misty pewter
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Do you guys know why F+ started the Funplus Universe?

misty pewter
stable cosmos
misty pewter
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Funplus Universe…. F+ U Daily 😂

winter canyon
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I can't complain tbh... the piece is actually one of my best pieces

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but the reforge mechanism is just humiliating

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as well as ascension mechanism

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You risk getting a skill that is worth less than a frame... use 2K pearls for something worth less than 100 pearls... I just can't...

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And when you get that skill... your piece is basically ruined forever

steel musk
misty pewter
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I used to enjoy the survival Royale and farm for the TA items…. With the 2nd gen rng and the 40 players… I stopped, it’s no longer enjoyable

winter canyon
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I've seen people getting the same troop defense skill with green essence... is that epic fail lmao

steel musk
tardy night
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Thanks for your support

charred swift
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And yet we all carry on and put up with this garbage

vale yoke
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sadcat SR BTB is gonna be terrible

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The players in my alliance are so overwhelmed, I've been telling them it's okay to quit the game if they need to.

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Basically shoving them out the door like "no, no, you go have a real life. I'll lock up"

charred swift
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Last one out of Liannins alliance switch the lights off please 😃

vale yoke
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That would be me lol

winter canyon
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Generation skipping has been going on for over a year and they have done nothing to help the victims of generation skip... Our troops don't matter because 10 million troops of f2p burn in less than 5 hits... they didn't fix reforge despite feedback 2 months ago... tundra/seasonal badge is nothing but a tragedy

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It's exhausting you know

vale yoke
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I made promises that I would be the last one left

charred swift
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I’ve got images of you looking back at the door, wistfully shaking your head, turning round and walking away

winter canyon
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Players aren't having fun

steel musk
vale yoke
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La la la laaa laa laa laa la

stable cosmos
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Nexus has been an amazing example of Not Fun

vale yoke
# steel musk Kick them so you will be the last one

Lol no no, they've been told they can move onto another alliance if they want, leave the game, etc. All our events are optional participation anyway, so it's about as low-stress as I can make it for people

steel musk
winter canyon
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Burning can be fun. But when you lose 800K from 1 hit and then burn on the 2nd or 3rd hit that is not fun.

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It's like our troops don't matter

vale yoke
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Lol we have THC as our Nexus neighbor. We gon dieee

stable cosmos
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I doubt they really do. Small alliances will just give up and not play. Hard to burn something thats not there

vale yoke
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If any THC members read that, I love your name and we can def chill sometime

winter canyon
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I'm too weak to even burn a farm

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The only people I can burn are probably inactive players

steel musk
winter canyon
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Revenge is the sweetest😊

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And I gave the rat a warning... too bad I lost 7K troops in the process

vale yoke
# stable cosmos I doubt they really do. Small alliances will just give up and not play. Hard to ...

Three alliances didn't take City 2 on our Nexus map. My alliance is between the top alliance in ranking and a mid. They like to put us in these situations, I think, to keep us humble, but like... What's more humble than saying "hey guys, pile randoms into CP1 so we can get a few points when they inevitably come to take it. Pretend like we're actually fighting for it. They'll never know the difference."

winter canyon
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Yep. Burning him 1 hit is a warning.

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Next time he does this I will farm him to 0 troops

steel musk
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he wont 😂

winter canyon
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He better not😉

stable cosmos
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If you knew that spending say, $50 would bring you up to or above the level of the guys you're fighting, you might make that choice.

If its clear that even spending $1000 wouldn't even take you halfway, well you won't try

vale yoke
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I think we tried once, back when Capital first opened in our old state, and we were like "meh, that's a lot of work. You guys wanna get some food instead?"

winter canyon
vale yoke
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Meh

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With $1000 I can get more fun things I can use for longer IRL

winter canyon
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True

vale yoke
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Actually, I just threw another $1400 without blinking at a work truck, so there's not a fear of spending here. The devs just don't give me anything I want to spend on.

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It's funny, because, in my business, I offer one of the least expensive pet options for a custom designed piece, made from high quality materials and hand crafted. Oftentimes, also personally delivered and set up so the client can just enjoy their purchase.
We still consistently make better profit than our more expensive competitors simply because we don't gouge our clientele for money they don't have.

Put this in a video game sense, and FunPlus is the expensive competitor. There is always a less expensive gameplay option available from another creator or company, and if FunPlus can't get with the times and figure it out, their clientele will do the same thing mine have - switch to the smarter and more affordable option.

winter canyon
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I will stay F2P. Despite people on this channel and other channels/servers telling us how we are not allowed to join rallies and how we ruin their SvS

I'm just glad I'm in a good alliance that cares about their players.

I feel so bad for people who are in a bully alliance that tells their smaller players "you don't have gold behemoths and collector 70+ so don't join my rally"

unreal lichen
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Angelica only helps if you are already very strong to begin with.

vale yoke
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It's a sad reality, Elizabeth, and I am sorry that I contributed to making that known to you, but some players do experience it.
I'm glad you have a supportive and inclusive family as well.
It is our belief that an alliance - and by proxy a state - is only as strong as its lowest levels. If an alliance or state isn't investing into its smaller players, it is leaving potential untapped.

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Some of the most dedicated and consistent players I have met are f2p and low spend, as well as some of the coolest.

wide wraith
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in my alliance all are welcome in the rallies no matter what level

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after all my philosophy is we are only as strong as our weakest player

winter canyon
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Good people are everywhere. Whether krakens, whales, mid spend, low spend or f2p

Having good players is the most important thing. Because it allows everyone to grow

vale yoke
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It's always been funny to me, the thinking. "We don't want people without these things because they're not strong". But how do they get strong, though? By doing things.
So yeah, it means including people and sometimes maybe not doing as well, because it's about making sure all members are cared for.

still tapir
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Feedback I demand the dev let me get a good skill for this TA

vale yoke
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I'ma do some witchy finger wiggles for ya.

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wiggles fingers

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And go.

winter canyon
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I still have 8 attempts left to reforge the stats of a great piece. Fingers crossed🙏🏼

vale yoke
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more wiggles

fresh raptor
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Does anyone know if this stacks up?

vale yoke
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Reloc effects don't stack, or at least not that I can see

cloud ridge
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Not upgradable far as I know, so don't waste coins on it for now.

vale yoke
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Also, I have no idea where Posty got that green one? She doesn't buy things like that in stores, so...

cloud ridge
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Green is from card collections

vale yoke
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OHHHH

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Aww good job, Posty.

cloud ridge
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All cards unlocked is basic affect, then all rare and all diamond

vale yoke
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Green is my favorite color so I was very happy, if just confused. Thanks Duck!

fresh raptor
stable cosmos
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I bought the dragon one from pachinko, cos it looked neat. With pachinko money of course

cloud ridge
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Dragons nice, I don't mind green either, but relos affects are a waste to me, should have really been statue affects or maybe a new aura affect?

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Unless your FP of course finding anyway you can to monetize things

marble grove
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I love when people say too many events, too many bundles... they start overfilling reward center... what sort of rewards are in this picture? Looks like bundles to me.

cloud ridge
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The rewards are the money sent to FP once people buy them

marble grove
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Hardly seen anyone asking for help to boost 🤣

cloud ridge
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Sadly it will tempt some to try their luck, and that's what they want to happen

marble grove
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But must be some if they made a second type of same event

cloud ridge
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I don't even know how the boost works, never seems to give me an option, but still won't get the crates either way

cloud ridge
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I've seen that, but I don't seem to get an option to ask for it when I go to boost

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If only they made things easier for simple people like me 😌

untold stag
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So I've noticed certain bundles are now doing 2x or 4x on biocaps/top-off points.

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Considering there is ALWAYS a catch with anything that remotely looks positive, I wonder what it is.

jolly harness
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That's what those crates are

marble grove
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Just so they make those small spenders spend more to think they spent like a whale 🤣

jolly harness
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Small spenders buy them for the small chance on big rewards

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Like the lottery

marble grove
jolly harness
marble grove
jolly harness
woven spire
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Pure following the mechanics

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you cant go to the best football club and demand striker position aswel

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when you not so good

slow thicket
rain reef
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The time wait for matching as monster on desert event is makes me sane 😦 very take time to get a match even wait 10min not guarantee get a match

woven spire
slow thicket
woven spire
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I dont know if you actually serious

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It seems for me really selfish to wanting to join every rally in a top alliance that will potentionally lose with a weaker joiner. Means you only want to join top for rewards and only care about yourself

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Join a middle class alliance or casual if you want to join rallys. preferences. But in a top alliance the rule is simple. Only fill if it doesnt fill

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Nothing to do with bullying. all to do with winning as team

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You cant go to Val/.Dyz with purple behemoth and expect them to let you join just cause you have faster fingers. Alliance have organization and strategy to win battles and the game devs made joiners more important.

slow thicket
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I don't know in which alliance Ur but it looks like an army. Spend or be better or u don't have the right to play 🪖

woven spire
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Good argument

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Great one

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You just have no clue what to say anymore lol

winter canyon
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Why are you defending selfish people who throw their own players under the bus?

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Just because they don't spend money?

woven spire
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Right to play.... If you weaker you fill when rally dont fill. You gather or grab water

woven spire
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You chose the top alliance, so you follow the rules in order to win

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you want to join all rallies. Fine preference go to casual mid alliances

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But dont call stronger alliances bullies cause they want to win

fresh raptor
slow thicket
winter canyon
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Excluding and throwing own members under the bus is bullying. "I want to win" is not an excuse. You can have 8 pairs of behemoth without having to bully your smaller members

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You just need to have 20 people join with 100K troops each and send the 8 top joiners back and have them rejoin one by one

woven spire
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So leave the alliance, how hard is that?😂

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Not all play casual

woven spire
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you literally want best rewards

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but also play

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XD

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Thats using the power oft he whales and putting alliance last place

winter canyon
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Why would they not have enough troops?

woven spire
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only care about yourself

unreal lichen
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Bullying is telling someone in state chat I hope you die. Kicking someone from a rally is not bullying. Let’s be real here. 🤷🏻‍♂️

woven spire
woven spire
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They just so unrealistic

vale yoke
unreal lichen
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Every player has the right to play there way. Every alliance has the right to play there way. It is not right or wrong. Play how it fits you and play in alliance that fits your style of play.

woven spire
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Exactly

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Just leave the alliance

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They not bullies they just want to win and not play casual

winter canyon
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Throwing your own members is okay? Just because they aren't as strong as you expect them?

Sorry, but not everyone is collector 90 and 1000 moral

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Not many have that much money

unreal lichen
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Then don’t play in that alliance.

vale yoke
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And most people are well aware when they're joining an alliance what "type" of alliance it is, in terms of what that alliance prioritizes or how it's run.
The fact remains that alliances which are consistently successful are also consistently monitoring things like how their rallies are filled. That doesn't mean they're bullies, that means that any f2p players they do have likely have a different role within the alliance, and dominant rally filler isn't one of them.

woven spire
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So you think you can join dyz and every rally aswel?

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you need to understand your role if you cant spend

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you get better rewards but also play diffferent

vale yoke
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It isn't the reality for all alliances, or all successful alliances - every one is different - but it is a reality to some people, and it's no less valid than being all inclusive for an alliance

unreal lichen
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I am a strong player in my state and alliance. But I would not be a strong player in DYZ. I know my place and my role. I play where it suits my style and strengths.

vale yoke
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I'm not even a mid tier in my state, and I know that I would be detrimental to the success of a battle rally if I joined. I would expect to be kicked, not out of malice, but out of necessity.

winter canyon
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What's the problem if I send 100K troops and they can still fill the rally with 8 pairs of top behemoth and 8 planes?

cloud ridge
winter canyon
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It is possible

unreal lichen
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RR has 2 legions. Many use second legion for smaller players. Nexus needs as many as possible to besiege. SVS some send smaller lead with smaller players to try and take towers to help. Many ways to play.

cloud ridge
woven spire
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We split all into 2 legions for all players

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But the first one gonna try argue with me about not be able to join rallies is out the alliance. I find it selfish

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You cannot join a top alliance and then demand a spot

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We try to get everyone points but not against the price to lose

slow thicket
woven spire
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And besides most f2p players are to casual and dont listen at all

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lol

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if you cant even follow simple instructions well

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gonna be hard if you dont spend either

vale yoke
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There's always a role to be filled or a space where someone is needed, but in order to ensure the alliance as a whole is getting top rewards, sometimes players might have to manage their expectations regarding their roles. That doesn't make them less vital or less of a part of that alliance; it just means they're not first pick in the NBA draft.

woven spire
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You can choose yourself where you play. big alliances have benefits so do small alliances have

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your choice what you like

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But cant have all

woven spire
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RR if we need to stack they just go grab the water or gather. Not join the rally

slow thicket
woven spire
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Just said know your role if you want to be in the best

vale yoke
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I don't have to like it, or agree with it, to understand it.

unreal lichen
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This game has always been free to play but pay to win. From the very start.

woven spire
slow thicket
winter canyon
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Throwing own members under the bus is very selfish. It's like the alliance doesn't care enough about their smaller members to even let them participate...

woven spire
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assuming you dont

winter canyon
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There are ways to compromise...

woven spire
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just not join all rallies

winter canyon
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First, 20 players join with 100K troops
Lead sends 1st joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Lead sends 2nd joiner back and he rejoins with behemoths
Repeat with joiner 3-8

Just do this and you have 8 maxed behemoths, 8 maxed planes and 12 F2P who can also get points

slow thicket
vale yoke
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Oh this game was absolutely always p2w. VIP is how they getcha, aside from 2nd Construct.

slow thicket
vale yoke
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Back when we all thought lucky and ray were special

unreal lichen
woven spire
unreal lichen
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If you can manage rallies like that in 1 minute you are much better than me for sure.

winter canyon
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What's your rally cap

slow thicket
winter canyon
unreal lichen
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In my time in this game I have been weak F2P. Mid spender. Borderline whale. State rally lead. Now back to secondary lead. I have seen all sides. I play my way and play in alliances that fit how I want to play.

slow thicket
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And now sorry to say that but now it's not fun anymore and at start a game is made for this, have fun and emotions in a battle.

winter canyon
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What's a whale's unbuffed march cap without heroes?

unreal lichen
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I could go to smaller alliance and be primary lead but I am ok with being joiner in most events.

winter canyon
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I assume around 230k or something?

woven spire
slow thicket
winter canyon
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That would require less work actually😅

slow thicket
winter canyon
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If rally cap is 2.3M

Lead: 300K troops
Whale joiners 1-7 join on eco mode, no heroes without march cap buffs: (250k x 7)
Then you can have 2 F2P join with 125k troops each

Don't even need to send back joiners and have them rejoin.

I hope I did my math right

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I also don't know the march cap of a whale without heroes... that can vary I guess

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But there are always ways to include players without bullying them out of rallies

steel musk
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big leads have more than 300k

unreal lichen
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I have seen solo marches of 400k 😅

steel musk
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think max was 375k or somthing

winter canyon
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That's with buffs and full migo probably

unreal lichen
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With massive march and all tundra right now it is higher.

slow thicket
winter canyon
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And the lead having a higher solo march cap will also increase the rally cap if I'm not wrong

unreal lichen
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4 of the statues in pacific rim are march increasing statues.

steel musk
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rally cap is 2.4 mil

winter canyon
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Last SvS max was around 338K or something

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Idk if his massive march buff was still active... if 338k was without mm, then +10% and that should be around 370k or smtg

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Heroes and buffs give lots of march cap. So not having them active would lower that by a lot

steel musk
potent wharf
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I'm trying to use my different crystal upgrades but no idea how to or what to use them on can anyone tell me how to use them as there is no obvious in game information

woven spire
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Some have 400k march but we dont want to mess up formations either

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Just join another alliance if it bothers so much. They dont do it to bully just wanting to win as alliance. Which also means better rewards for all

woven spire
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Of special events

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Like resident event turtle or the one now

potent wharf
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thanks but that still doesnt tell me how to use them

winter canyon
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400k? When did the march cap get that high?

steel musk
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migo i guess

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and p15

woven spire
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Just how you upgrade skins ingame

potent wharf
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I've tried that but there is no option to do that, so I guess they are completely useless

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Thanks for your help anyway HandPrint

woven spire
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Not all works just special event once

rocky otter
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matchmaking awesome 🤣 🤣

jolly harness
rocky otter
jolly harness
rocky otter
jolly harness
rocky otter
toxic meadow
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KOTH matching sucks. I'll never get migo done. we never get the time we vote for. How we get our 3rd option.

jolly harness
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but for KOTH you always know who you will fight against

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So it depends on the 3 alliances vote

toxic meadow
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i can't get on at the selected time.

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We cant but the times are always bad

jolly harness
tidal apex
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Matching is terrible anyway so the least they could do would be allowing to pick 1 time only... That way at least people will be able to participate in the match

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Main argument when they made this "pick multiple timeslots" was for better matching. It is clearly not working. All it achieves is that you are still often facing opponent few times stronger, just that in addition half of your members cant play because match happens on 3rd picked time 👍

winter canyon
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Where you can destroy people half your power in events and laugh🤣

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While the other alliances aren't having fun at all

white lynx
winter canyon
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I still remember the times when spenders sat in a corner bullying F2P in azurtane heist...

rancid socket
winter canyon
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But whatever I guess...
Everyone should be allowed to play the game the way they want, right?shocked_froggie

winter canyon
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I'm just glad that I'm in an alliance that cares about their players

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Sadly the same can't be said about some others I know...

worldly sable
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👀

raw light
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Time like that

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Now one hit on f2p and they burning

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Aircraft formation , Beo , Tempest , limitless everything provide skill have destroy the game.

winter canyon
white lynx
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I think the key is to find the right state and alliance. I'm lucky, I play in an amazing alliance, but the whole state are cool and we all help each other.

winter canyon
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Taking much more losses though

raw light
winter canyon
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10M is enough

raw light
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They ruined game anyways by releasing aircraft formation and beo

raw light
winter canyon
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Idk if I play smart

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Being in a good alliance helps a lot. Being active also helps a lot.

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We burn eventually of course, but 1 hit from max player is possible to survive.

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Last SvS I got hit and lost 800K troops. I wouldn't take more than 1 such hit because I doubt I'd survive even 3 more hits after...

raw light
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Soon no any f2p could take one hit

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They release to much statue with capacity march

winter canyon
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It's not just march capacity that is the problem

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It's combination of p2w features that gives max player such a huge advantage

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Cause even if 500K vs. 10M, the f2p still has 20 times the troop number😅

raw light
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Problem are not even stats

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Problem are feature provide many crazy skills

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Gorilla , Trex , Companion , Tanks , Tempest , Statue , Statue completion , Aircraft formation , Carrier , Beo skin , and Limitless + operative hero Is just to much now

rancid socket
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I hope it's going to be useful

slow thicket
slow thicket
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Someone knows how many troops has the strongest players?

misty pewter
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They can’t stop… if they stop adding stuff, the spenders would have nothing to buy and get bored 😅

rancid socket
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and I have always been a hoarder free to play/low spender

wide wraith
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KoH matching is non existant, how can a team with 13 players be matched with one who has 29?????

rancid socket
wide wraith
rancid socket
wide wraith
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looks good

swift veldt
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Add back our ship battle, delete desert survival with the *** bugs . No possibility to send march ....

wide wraith
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tried that desert thing, they should have left it in the desert to die in a fire

spice saffron
wide wraith
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it makes POW look good and thats saying something

steel musk
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add Attack on Titan as event in game

brazen peak
vernal moss
# wide wraith tried that desert thing, they should have left it in the desert to die in a fire

Hi shadow, the desert event can be pretty fun. I think it’s a good start for a beta personally. It definitely has its issues, but what I find great currently is that it doesn’t depend on spending like PoW. Do you dislike the entire idea of it or do you think if there was more variety for monsters and even humans. Where they have presets and can only use those instead of the same ideas from PoW.
If we’re heard finally we could make this event pretty fun on the side.

What’s your thoughts about anything related to that?

mighty gorge
# vernal moss Hi shadow, the desert event *can* be pretty fun. I think it’s a good start for a...

It's a bag of spanners and just another pointless waste of time for very little gain. Btw, this mod thing you do where you ask fixed questions to try and promote some kind of response to latch feedback onto, others do the same and it's obvious it's just part of the dialogue you guys are taught. Can we please just try and have a normal human conversation, people react better when your acting like a player not a mod

vernal moss
# mighty gorge It's a bag of spanners and just another pointless waste of time for very little ...

It's always going to be little gain regardless what we're given from the experience we all have on here. I was beyond asking fixed questions to link onto feedback, I was genuinely interested to what shadow disliked. I shared my thoughts and what I thought would be interesting to improve the event. It's easy to say you don't like something without specifying what it is, majority of the time it's the rewards or the bugs but it's normal at this point. We will continue to report or push for any improvements that's desired, there's only so much we can do. To also add onto that-- this is feedback discussion, so anything good or bad is indicated that it's to do with feedback, we have #🆘︱sos_discussion if anyone wants to avoid the specific relation to this channel.

Being a player will always be priority over being a moderator, if there's issues in the game and you're upset about it, it's clear we too will be bothered by it. Please consider that in future. We're community based and not the board.

steel musk
mighty gorge
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Your trying it on the wrong person

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Redirecting me 🤣

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Seriously wake up BEsmiddisapprove

steel musk
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somtimes i feel its AI lol

mighty gorge
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Honestly doesn't it. This is my entire point

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It's like talking to a robot

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But they just spew the same diatribe

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I'm out, going back to my cave.

still tapir
slow nymph
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beloved support team i have questions 🤣

cloud ridge
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It's fked

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Been that way for months now, support keeps saying they've fixed it but it's just lies

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I literally can't build towers in our own hive anymore

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It's getting worse as well, happening on more states and larger parts of the map

slow nymph
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yeah me too, nor cant we relocate to spot's with half occpied territory, let's help them to fix 🙂

cloud ridge
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It's just stupid, and not a word for FP or CMs on it

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Imagine starting in a new state after downloading the game, you go to build or join your first alliance and you find that you can't even place down the HQ, let alone any towers

slow nymph
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yeah, but i think they are up to fix it, will open another ticket tmrw about that

cloud ridge
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Their last reply was that they'll refer to tech to be looked into, after lying about fixing it beforehand

slow nymph
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i trust our state mod and will send my own whip if needed 🤣

cloud ridge
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If I had the patience or if it was easy to do a report I'd spam them

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It's stupid something like this is even happening

slow nymph
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you can't blame dev team vs humans problem start to count on 0 or 1 problem 😂

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it's just a loop problem imo

stable cosmos
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Can 100% blame dev team

slow nymph
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😌 sometimes when you have all the day a database in front of you it aint ez to fix, and count me to dev (not sos) team 🤭

stable cosmos
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No but when a bug has existed for a very long time and your bosses ignore it in preference to more bundles and trash nobody asked for it is 100% on the team running the game

tardy night
#

@merry scroll

When will newer states be brought at par with older states in relation to silver coins we get when donating to alliance tech?

25 donations in states older than 600 gets players 13.5k coins. Same donations in 700+ give 5.5k coins.

Since we are at the same generation of heroes, why the disparity now? It affects everything from getting behemoth companion crates to transfer passes.

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This was brought up to you guys at least a year back where we were told it's due to new states' age.

We are now on the same generation as these old states. Why the difference now?

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Similarly, chances for donations cap at 60/360.

deft arch
untold stag
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It never ends...

cloud ridge
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i do feel oppressed to be fair

weak ingot
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What even are the stats 😂

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It doesn’t show up in vehicle menu

cloud ridge
#

you can tell just how ready they are for this new feature

#

everything is pre order nowadays

tame lintel
#

I think this is impossible for anyone to get.
Best can get will get you 2698 points short...

untold stag
tame lintel
untold stag
#

AH will also be this week

tame lintel
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I didn't add that in....

untold stag
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That will be 15,840. But even so, still makes it very difficult for most

tame lintel
#

Top 20 cross state needed in sotf last week

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With that added

untold stag
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I hit the last two badges w/ top 100 + top 20 state. I don't think that is enough this time.

tame lintel
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Ya. Me too

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Thankfully nexus giving lots of glory

untold stag
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If I did the math correctly, I will end at 235,796, leaving me 14,204 short. There are 5 SoTF tiers I missed, each giving 5,280 points.

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So anyone that gets this badge will have to get 3 of those as well.

tame lintel
#

Ya. I missed 4 sotf tiers

fallow lodge
# vernal moss Hi shadow, the desert event *can* be pretty fun. I think it’s a good start for a...

pretty fun🤔 🤣 im not sure what game your playing. exact same map every time. the map doesn't zoom, when you try and walk it scrolls so doesn't send march when you want and this based on a mini game that's speed is need....then on top of that another pack added to another event just to play monster and there's barely any reward. fun? sounds like you been paid to say that. in reality that events a joke

untold stag
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My schedule is pretty chaotic, so I try the monster, but sit around for 20+ minutes before I quit out.

fallow lodge
#

for the money the devs charge people and time put in...the events they keep giving us are complete junk. im not sure what these people are on but i want some

untold stag
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If I did the numbers correctly, you have 75,680 max points from Bloodsport and 104,615 from SvS.

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So halving the badge points doesn't factor that 28,935 less points are available.

mortal saddle
untold stag
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It would roughly match the effort needed in bloodsport that was needed for the other badges.

mortal saddle
#

6 state per group state, let say there are 1000 active players in those 6 states
so out of 1000 active players, only 20 can get max MIGO points in stage 3
2% of all active players!

untold stag
#

I tossed feedback up. It is unlikely to be changed, but I suppose we will see.

mortal saddle
#

this MIGO is a failure, Tundra Exploration Center is BS
not enough coal
and this 250k point requirement for max MIGO points for stage 3

untold stag
#

It looks like the gen2 tanks have invisibility too! 😂

unreal lichen
#

Image is coming later😂

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Mine is displaying ok

untold stag
#

I guess I have the stealth version and you don't. 🤔

stable cosmos
#

No treads or wheels. Not a tank. Classified as a mech, robot or walker. Vehicle can still fit though

unreal lichen
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Maybe some small wheels under its foot. But you are 100% right, this is not a classified definition of vehicles.

tardy night
#

Is that the red type or blue?

unreal lichen
somber schooner
#

Hi there, does the Statue Upgrade Crystal also work on the new Pacific Rim collab statues?

digital nexus
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Hey there Sith, let me see if I can find that for you.

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They work for the RE and TMNT statues, so they should also work for Pacific Rim Statues. They are only for special event statues.

somber schooner
#

Thanks for respond Jinzo, much appreciated. Only the ones with the aura right? I tried it on the "Ninja Enigma" statue from TMNT collab and it didn't work.

cloud ridge
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Those types of frames only work on collab related items, in theory they should work on RE, Turtles and Pacific

cloud ridge
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But, if we're talking about the special statue type, as in one with special skill and not march capacity, I don't think those can be upgraded unless shop refreshed and you bought more than 1 or you could get a 2nd version elsewhere

pallid willow
#

Why they asking us for our game id for the event tho? Everyone seeing it dangerous isn’t it shocked_froggie

cloud ridge
somber schooner
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No, I'm not talking about frames or statues with special skills. I'm only asking what statues do the "Statue Upgrade Crystals" work on. I'm thinking of getting the Gipsy Avenger cause I want that aura.

grim steppe
unreal lichen
lunar python
#

Maybe an easier way to get sentinels as F2P. 😐

normal peak
#

I think it’s cute how they recycled all boost coins just to open boost event next day

forest kiln
stable cosmos
#

Well the devs won't fix it at any rate.

forest kiln
normal peak
#

😂😂

#

Yeah kinda a useless event

stable cosmos
#

Astro store is up. I usually like getting 1 fortelling out of it. But theres no way to earn anything at all this time.

stable cosmos
#

Day 4 of pacific rim
Number of giant robots 0
Number of kaiju 0
Prizes, suck
The one thing we can do is this power core RNG garbage and you aren't even offering them for event currency.

Honestly this is hyper boring. I hope the guys who own the license fine you for failure to deliver

vague shard
#

With so many bundles now it is impossible to know which one is best to buy. So I stopped spending my 5-10€ per month.
So slow down on things and you might make more money

marble grove
vague shard
tardy night
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Oh it's gonna be harder. Remove nexus, keep mines in the state at same count. Make tundra to 140 with all rally cap features unlocked above 100

cloud ridge
stable cosmos
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Removing nexus is kinda a positive mind you. It just comes with an overall loss of mines.

tardy night
#

Considering they designed a state event badge to be won by 20 people out of 6 states' populace, this is gonna get worse.

cloud ridge
stable cosmos
#

Still, we've now had 6 months of winter, we should be into summer and no longer need a boiler or mining

cloud ridge
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I assume nexus won't come back at least, but next migo will probs be fk if they don't do anything with conversion rates

stable cosmos
#

Just hoping they chuck the mining. S--- mechanic

vague shard
#

Is it possible to get Journeys end to 250k? Was 3rd/15th on sotf, but still need 78k this week

tardy night
cloud ridge
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If mining was just crystals it be k, some extra work for a bit more rewards ain't too bad

tardy night
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🤷🏽‍♂️

misty pewter
#

Next migo, all vehicles in game will be EVs. In order to march, we need to buy a charging station for 999 diamonds. 😂

stable cosmos
#

Duels was better than nexus. Its still not very good

cloud ridge
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Allaince duels is ok, least not as time consuming and "easier" matchmaking 😅

#

But, with tower bug ongoing going to be a pain to even place it down I imagine 😂

stable cosmos
#

They also need to fix the "can't play because" issue where you can't play/earn points and its out of your control

#

I want to be able to attack alliance towers for personal merits

forest kiln
stable cosmos
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Rewards are changeable and unaffected by gameplay. Nexus had s--- gameplay. Duels could just get a rewards change

tardy night
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Rewards matter very little when there's no game to be played after the first day of nexus though

In ad you can choose which level of opponents suit you at any given time.

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Nothing given in nexus will change 99% of battle outcomes either.

#

The rewards are illusionary at best because they do not keep pace with the power creep/ stat inflation brought by new items.

vague shard
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First 2 nexus for us was fine, all alliances below 100B. The 2 after that alliances from 20-250B fighting on same map. No chance at all for us small to even get a city 5, last week we hardly had our checkpoint 1

cloud ridge
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Nexus is too un reliable unless they fix matchmaking and actually make it fair, until that happens some simply will not get points for all nexus sessions or the odd one here and there

untold stag
vale yoke
#

I'm of the opinion that both Duels and Nexus are completely functional as ideas and events, but if and only if they were developed with the intent to be actual game components.
Nothing in this game is developed for the benefit of the players or our enjoyment, despite that this is a video game. And that's why things like Alliance Duels and Nexus Struggle will simply never work for us. This stopped being a video game when it became an unpaid full time job.
The devs don't care about what creates a balance in gameplay, because they profit off the imbalance.

#

They even ignore their own paid employees, why would they listen to us? Because we give them money? Ha. We've shown we'll give them money even when they don't.

untold stag
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Small alliances, with good planning, could rank quite well.

forest kiln
stable cosmos
# untold stag Duels also had strategy in betting amounts and picking opponents.

Duels had a couple of issues.the biggest was missing out which could be done 3 ways

You don't bid enough and lose all choices. No game for you
You bid on someone and win, but they never built the stuff, also game over.
The above 2 are ok, but the entire alliance just bubbled and didn't play. RIP all points.

The first one is awkward to fix, the second is easy. The 3rd is easier still as you just divorce team points from attacking humans and add in a few more ways to score individual merits

vague shard
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For all the big alliances in nexus. It's not good move to take checkpoint 1 from your small weak opponents. Then we can't even get out and get burned for points 😄

stable cosmos
#

Nexus needs a full change of gameplay to make it fun. I can link my novel if anyone wants to read it

untold stag
stable cosmos
#

The stupid timing and the fact that teams simply get left out of playing as they lose sucks

merry scroll
tardy night
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So at the very least till 862 the donations should be giving the same amount of coins

cloud ridge
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Also, saber

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Where is alliance mine I thought we we're suppose to be getting?

rocky otter
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Yep that’s another lie. Not any alliance mine in all migo

normal peak
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Wait he lied?

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Noooooo

rocky otter
#

Blissful bags still same. You can sit on those 3 keys. Coz we can’t do anything with them

normal peak
#

As long as people spend on it they will keep shoving into event line up

lucid yew
#

Its kinda annoying to have 5 event passes to complete every day. On the other hand, we can just ignore them and get the free rewards, so i don't even know am i annoyed or not

vale yoke
#

I could tell them an idea how to keep Blissful and some events similar or planned similarly to it in rotation and improve revenue on it but they won't give me my dev chat so why should I

lavish heron
#

Anyone know how this rubbish is used??

vale yoke
#

I think it's in the actual frame screen and only for the Collab frames? Someone had this yesterday, lemme see if I can find that post here

lavish heron
#

Every time they give me a frame or statue crystal, I can never use it. Well it’s a waste cause idc about the frame…

steep elk
winter canyon
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When will we get our 3 astro coins as compensation😅

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Who would've thought... after all this time... Nexus is the best thing that happened this MIGO... tundra/seasonal badge/research project is nothing but a tragedy...

normal peak
#

Took checkpoint 1 in 5 mins..now watching clock to see an hour waste away..should have made 2 buildings one day

winter canyon
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Well, I'll cut research project some lack cause we get free biocaps... but as for tundra/seasonal badge... completely useless and a total downgrade compared to last MIGO

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What's funny is that if complete all badges but the 100/100 research and lvl120 tundra, you get 7.9K points🤡

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And do we have any news on Alliance mine? This is the last week👀

cloud ridge
#

If we had normal conversion rates then nexus be even more uselss

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I assume no alliance mine, not a surprise really

winter canyon
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As of now, Nexus is the best event this MIGO... I think it's a great event

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It's the glory that makes the event great... as far as tundra items are concerned nexus doesn't give enough either... cause no one's getting to lvl 100 without paying

winter canyon
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I'm going to the beach... I almost started ranting againshocked_froggie

forest kiln
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Well, it was expected. Top 1 - 4K points, to get rewards for top 1 - you need 6K points🤣

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Event dead 5 min after it was born

rocky otter
untold stag
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I'm not sure how this is harassment, but w/e.

unreal lichen
#

revenue shrinking like ice cream on a hot summer day 😂

untold stag
cloud ridge
#

Wasted money ChickHeart2

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Least they have a nice dragon skin for 30 days, totally worth the few hundred they spent or thousands

cloud ridge
coarse verge
#

Mine worked on pizza one

vague shard
#

My state max 845, no whales left

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2nd place 221

vale yoke
coarse verge
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Sorry

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Previously They worked only on same collab , I thought you meant that , my apologies 🙏

forest kiln
winter canyon
forest kiln
weak ingot
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Also whales already have everything

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They just wanted the permanent skin for collection and bonuses

winter canyon
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Some don't

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Whales can vary a lot... especially between bigger and smaller whales

weak ingot
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Yeah, but if you spent 4K, you got like what? 60000 coins?

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You could empty the shop 😂

forest kiln
#

My result as F2P🤣

winter canyon
#

Take a hit from 70s collector lvl whale
Then take a hit from maxed whale above 80 collector lvl and 1K moral

Second whale hits at least 3x harder than first whale

weak ingot
#

Maxed whales be on the 90s now

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I’ll be sure to report on the stats

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We have a few of them in our nexus

winter canyon
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Not 90 but fully maxed

normal peak
weak ingot
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Morale doesn’t mean much, it’s more about whether you’ve picked up stats from collection or not

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High statue level and guardians and all that

winter canyon
#

Collection is not 100% accurate though
I've seen some players in 60s collectors beat 70s. And some 70s beat 80s. Or 80s beat a 90 collector...
But usually a pretty accurate indicator

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There really isn't much difference between 85 and 90 except for some skins... I don't even know what bonus you get for reaching lvl90😅

winter canyon
winter canyon
near juniper
winter canyon
#

I also wonder why state transfer is so expensive...

slow thicket
cloud ridge
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To force futher spending to move of course

winter canyon
#

Maxed player would need gov invite because their rating above 1b

winter canyon
slow thicket
winter canyon
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That's not low

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I assume you're a F2P P8?

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With decent stats and aircraft

slow thicket
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yea, very low spender but most f2p

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if i read correctly i will need 27 tickets this time

winter canyon
#

If you stay low plasma level, you can keep your migration rating low. But at the same time, lvl8 troops have much lower base stats compared to lvl 13-15

slow thicket
winter canyon
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P15 definitely made a lot of difference

slow thicket
#

yes too much

winter canyon
#

As for surviving hits, the only way is to upgrade HQ and troop level. Focus on hunter lethality/atk and infantry HP/def

slow thicket
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i need to see what i can get with upgrading as a p9 if it helps a bit for stats

winter canyon
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You have T11 or T12

slow thicket
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T12 on hunters and inf

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i have still a lot to upgrade in dev 😅

winter canyon
#

Use effortless progress with T12 research. It saves a lot

slow thicket
slow thicket
winter canyon
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I would recommend going for P13 or even P15. Plasma research is not really worth it anymore. You can do the main branch (leth/hp and cannon), but skip the rest😅

winter canyon
slow thicket
forest kiln
#

Wow, 800s already "old" states

vague shard
#

I think it will be state merges for a lot of states in 2 weeks. 12 weeks ago it was only a bunch of “high” numbers states. But 24 weeks ago it was state merges from state 1 to 700 or something like that. Think a lot of those that didn’t get it 24 weeks ago will get in in 2 weeks.

normal peak
#

Gen skip is a terrific thing

untold stag
#

Does anyone know off the top of their head how many states are left? I could go count them if I am really inclined to.

pallid willow
#

Is there merge state list already?

forest kiln
vague shard
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No, they love to tell us about state merge 2 days before it happens. All to make sure we can’t plan anything

forest kiln
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Around 500-600 states alive, I think

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Well, not dead🤣

untold stag
vague shard
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If I counted weeks correct, last time they actually announced state merge on Thursday of last migo week. So maybe info this week if we are lucky. And merges July 22nd

forest kiln
#

Oh, last merged state I found 1206

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Anyway, around 500 states right now, even less

spice saffron
#

Oh wow, these new states didn't wait long for a merge lol

worldly sable
worldly sable
#

1040 already has P15 and a couple of players on top LBs

slow thicket
forest kiln
#

🤣

vague shard
#

Maybe he quit after realizing 500k wasn’t enough to reach 1st place

steel musk
vague shard
forest kiln
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Around year ago. They even made video

vague shard
#

Even our dead state say lively. And we have problem filling rallies on all buildings in svs

cloud ridge
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Its all just fake buzz words they throw around, best way to actually know is to talk to someone who's in the state

forest kiln
normal peak
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Goes by top 70 strongest players

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So if state has 70 players that are very active and decent stats then you are screwed lol

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That’s what devs consider active state..70 people

winter canyon
#

I'm not even top 70shocked_froggie

steel musk
steel musk
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they could do cc from hive

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and bunkers also

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so 2 events of game they dont play

slow thicket
steel musk
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CC was best event in game

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but now its dead event

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because Devs and FP greedy and dumb

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they give us Nexus with dumb matchmaking

untold stag
steel musk
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in beginning cc was fun

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double rally, ghost

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now its trash

normal peak
#

Cc is garbage event with outdated rewards

steel musk
#

I said before.. now yes its bad

slow thicket
# steel musk now its trash

its nap time if ur a very strong alliance. I knew guys that they have CC during the night, woke up for it, went in a tower, go to sleep again and when they woke up they were still in tower 😅

steel musk
#

before could kick anyone out by double rally..

normal peak
steel musk
#

now yes could send and sleep if too strong 🤣

steel musk
vague shard
steel musk
untold stag
vague shard
#

10570 tags and 23 certificates

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Only riders badges left, so done in a year from now 🙂

steel musk
#

so 5 - 6 years need to complet badges? 👀

vague shard
#

You don’t get these?

steel musk
#

we get it here

untold stag
vague shard
#

More there than wasting full day at cc

untold stag
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True. I just am weird and like to cause myself unnecessary pain. 😂

steel musk
untold stag
vague shard
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Maybe some fight at cc if we get state merge. Now everyone already know results of every rally before they even arrive

steel musk
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yes and double rally dont work anymore

vague shard
#

Do anyone still fight for bunkers and facilities?

steel musk
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no one

untold stag
steel musk
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🤣

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also rewards doesn't worth

vague shard
#

A few time we rally race for first occupancy. But then the weakest go home. Most of the times from hive instead

meager python
daring sapphire
#

F2p*

steel musk
steel musk
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and active f2p without miss any event

daring sapphire
#

I started 5 months ago, I'm currently with one red badge. Preparing for red gear and full badges soon

steel musk
#

started in old state?

daring sapphire
#

Currently a P4 in there

steel musk
#

its easy get 6 red in old states now.. hard to max it.. you need honor badge and only event to get it is migo and you get 50 only

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50 every 3 months

daring sapphire
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MIGO, trucks, some shops

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Other events like Alliance Throwdown every 2 weeks

steel musk
#

with throwdown and migo .. total could be 100 every 3 months

meager python
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I’ve been playing for a little over 3 years and still have not finished my badges, in my defense though I’m a really bad player when it comes to upgrading stuff lol

steel musk
#

nah started in old state.. in new state need 2 years to get 1 red

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then 2 or 3 more to max it

meager python
#

I focused on gear first instead of stuff for badges. I get sidetracked easily though and end up forgetting about them and doing other things

steel musk
#

well somtimes cant take badges from migo store ....
there behmoth, formation system, etc

vague shard
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Started June 29 2020, have 11 upgrades left on badges. Not F2P, but low spender. I guess 1k€ in 4 years counts as low in this game, but pretty much for a game

winter canyon
#

I have full red badges... first tier😅

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Will take a loooong time

vague shard
#

Hero gear and chief gear only thing maxed. And 2 heroes, except syringes, also maxed

winter canyon
#

This is all I have from my tiny F2P collection😅

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I have maxed hero gear and chief gear and t11 research

steel musk
winter canyon
stable cosmos
#

Hero gear was easy enough to max after they changed the prizes for trap

steel musk
stable cosmos
#

Certificates remain stingy. Because apparently once something makes its money nobody else is allowed it

steel musk
#

seems so

tame jackal
pallid willow
#

Is nexus bugged again? In one acc i can port to all the city 5 territory of all alliances but in the other i cant go anywhere except own alliance 5 section, why?

stable cosmos
#

Again? When has it not been bugged. The whole event is a bug

steel musk
#

whole event is bugged

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tomorrow 1 alliance will take all lvl 5 as always

#

they should not be able to do that.. but hey Devs gave up and did not even send compensation last Nexus

#

we have bugged event shocked_froggie

stable anvil
#

Operation festival is up and running and yet they give us the wrong store. Still pearls

weak ingot
stable cosmos
#

Is feeding frenzy weekly now?

untold stag
#

No clue...still not enough for most to get the tier 3 badge this stage.

worldly sable
#

Are we supposed to be able to spend our crimson gems somewhere lmao

untold stag
#

I assume when the store "resets"

untold stag
#

This is the one event that is at least decent in terms of pearls and other rewards.

stable anvil
#

They also supposed to restocked the pearl shop but guess people lack any brain cells to have common sense

primal steppe
#

No crimsom store??

worldly sable
#

We can stack them to be recycled soon

rotund rover
#

Why can't we report MIGO broadcasts like this? Click on the offending post, there's no 'report chat' option.

grim steppe
grim steppe
barren bay
#

You can't use words that describe this game

grim steppe
#

Please keep chat family friendly

barren bay
#

seriously

grim steppe
#

Of course,server have rules which everyone must stick

barren bay
#

😂😂😂😂

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and which category do fp and dev fall into? 🤔

grim steppe
#

What do you mean by category?

stable anvil
#

You can send the msg to them directly via email

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Whether they choose to read it depends on them like devs ever appear here to read anyone of our feedback

barren bay
#

ok, I'm the bad guy

stable anvil
#

I sent them one already

barren bay
#

Good luck, I wonder how many of your feedback they responded to

tardy night
barren bay
#

💩💩💩💩

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😂😂

#

this is exactly what I wanted to write 😊

untold stag
#

💩 💩 + it is!

tidal apex
#

Why is this rewards pass "hidden"? No red dot anywhere....

solid rivet
#

Maybe im missing something, but where can you use the Crimson gem in "operation festival" event?

tidal apex
#

Had all tasks finished yet no red dot. Almost missed on some free rewards and anything free is rare in here :p

untold stag
#

I just sent a group message to my alliance as well about it.

tidal apex
barren bay
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I report it, you report it, no one listens 😬

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but I will write 💩

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and they will delete your entry 👍

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💩💩💩💩💩for dev, for fp, and for your censorship

#

exactly the same approach, communism and nazism have it, you can't express your opinion

#

welcome to the 21st century 😬

#

as a man, I can identify as a pregnant lesbian, but I cannot write 💩

#

😂😂

steel musk
#

all that because lvl 9 mine?
remove the game bro

barren bay
#

@steel musk

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I play for fun, I play for my friends, I play for the alliance

stable anvil
#

What the actual fq. So now devs doing what they did in boost bundles, instead of putting it for 1 gem for 70 speedups , now you need to have 10 for 300 speedups, or else say good bye to the gems

fallow lodge
#

You play together

unreal lichen
#

feeding frenzy 3week in a row

fallow lodge
unreal lichen
#

valentine, pinball and now operation festival, no wonder player from oldest state quit

forest kiln
#

Not sure it's even scratch the bottom

stable cosmos
#

They'd need to drastically increase the rewards for completing tasks. Throwing in frenzy won't solve anything at all.

Now, changing sotf and svs prizes to remove rankings for migo. Its a world event. It doesn't need rankings. If people play the game they should reach the prizes. Fancier prizes are for money.

F---plus want to have their cake and eat it. Basic prizes and fancy prizes for money

rocky otter
vivid hawk
#

Like valentines in June, I see we now have a ghost sentinel. So Halloween in July then!

Prepare for Christmas in August people! 🤣

twin nest
#

why is Operation Festival only 4 days? Is that another bug or what? the timer shows 5 days, but since we have only 4 days in surprise tasks that mean people with sentinel can't even buy a statue as a reward? cause day 5 will be for shopping only? 🤦‍♀️

stable cosmos
#

Search in nexus is busted. Heres a mine 320km away, you can't use it. I shall ignore the one that is 27km away and actually available

tardy night
#

Intentionally programmed that way to make people go for the speed buffs from explorer. Else it's not needed if you're walking 10s to the closest mines

stable cosmos
#

Its worse when you can't march to the one miles away anyway because its around the lvl5 and its inaccessible

still tapir
#

Migo ends in 5 days and I don’t even have a level 32 boiler. Have to love that conversion rate

unreal lichen
#

even some whale in my old state can't handle pearl event

unreal lichen
misty pewter
#

SSDD… same 💩 different day 😂

tidal oxide
#

WTF is Desert Survival - what a joke!
So many events this week?
So Dino, Azurtane then Nexus fight - we do have a life Devs?
This week I am taking a break this is beyond insanity!

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Oh and don’t forget the Rim job lmao

wide wraith
tidal oxide
pseudo mist
# tidal oxide WTF is Desert Survival - what a joke! So many events this week? So Dino, Azurta...

Hi Mary!
Desert Survival is basically instead of PoW. Since it's new there are some lags and bugs (many already found here: #🐞︱bug-reporting )

Additionally, we have an own group where you can state your opinion about it. #🌵︱desert-survival

Admittedly, in my state most play 5 times for the crates and then leave it be. And a warning: leave your "Team" after each match or even 3 matches are counted as one for some. iara_facepalm

pseudo mist
lime zealot
#

I support proposition to increase rewards for most of events. Again.
Make them harder mechanics wise if needed, but give rewards worthy of time invested.

wide wraith
#

I am still waiting for the fun, that the Devs are supposed to be adding to the game. When you have played long enough most events are unplayable because you are already maxed out

tidal apex
#

Their dev feedback talks are so usefull 🤣

People asking about updating rewards in old events, horde in this example.
Their answer? We are looking into it 🤣 How long they need to finally do something? 3 years?

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It is already at least 1 year that everyone in my alliance stopped caring about horde. It is just running in background while people normaly do their dailies if they happen to be online

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If not then noone logging in specially for it

mighty gorge
#

This I guess would be the same input they asked for when creating and delivering Nexus. /end sarcasm

rocky otter
#

Horde isn’t the only an event which rewards sux.

#

There are too much events, rewards has to be reupdated

solid rivet
#

someone knows the issues when you will join Nexus and it says "Oops you are in a tactical group" so you cant join Nexus

pallid willow
#

Pow team maybe?

solid rivet
#

there is no Pow

pallid willow
#

I got that message when i was in nexus and invited to a team for pow so idk

#

There is 👀

#

The human monster version

solid rivet
#

not for me 😅

tardy night
#

Train?

solid rivet
#

Checking

hollow pebble
still tapir
#

This migo has been by far the worst ever. Nexus is a trash event. Impossible enough coal and limestone. Buts what is worst is the conversion rate. Just a terrible migo.

neon crypt
#

You know what is really irritating, the op festival button switching with the festive bazaar button so when you want to go into the event page the fricking shop comes up and all you wanted to do was join a brawler rally. The bazaar is in the op festival page, why does it need it’s own “shortcut”. It’s giving me rage!

lunar kelp
#

Loooool just seen the mansion updates, so you can get music but you'll have to pay for it! Please fix the game before adding these superficial things

charred swift
high creek
storm mountain
#

Too many events

unique slate
#

how about make pow and desert survival running on the same time

#

win or lose got 2* reward shocked_froggie

winter canyon
winter canyon
#

The other stuff this migo (tundra/seasonal badges) are just complete tragedies. You get nothing

sinful nimbus
#

These 2 alliances are in the same Nexus map

high creek
high creek
sinful nimbus
winter canyon
#

Seasonal badges is impossible

sinful nimbus
winter canyon
#

If you complete all tasks except for research project and lvl 120 tundra (which both require spending money), you get 7.9K points🤡

#

Most epic fail ever I would say

winter canyon
#

F2P players will not even be close with any of those P2W tasks

sinful nimbus
#

I've only bought the 2 migo season crates

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And as I've said ranked enough high in sotf and svs warfare

winter canyon
sinful nimbus
sinful nimbus
winter canyon
#

Nothing wrong with spending money or adding P2W stuff, but I think after 3 months, F2P should be able to get SOMETHING from the tundra/seasonal badge even if it is on the last day

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Right now we are getting nothing. It's sad...

sinful nimbus
#

You can save 1 season ans spend the other season

high creek
winter canyon
#

Yes, but even if you save for 3 years and rank top 5 in all 3 soft and svs, you will still not be able to complete the research or lvl 120 tundra

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Which means you get 7.9k pts...

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Which is just not enough

sinful nimbus
high creek
#

You can never finish tundra without spending the conversion rate is joke
Yes make it harder but this is impossible

winter canyon
#

Conversion rate is a joke
No alliance mine
Buildings too expensive
Tons of feedback submitted in the last 2 months

#

And what has happened?

high creek
#

You should know by now whatever you say about Migo
They will try to fix next season||AD was the only one who they tried to fix in middle of Migo||

steel musk