#📋︱feedback-discussion

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vale yoke
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Pick a lane.

prime hound
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I am not a fan of the card collecting at all

mighty gorge
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Most people even in newer states (to a degree) gives a flying crap about some of this stuff

cursive vessel
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I accidentally pressed on the wrong bundle for value cards and ended up with migo stuff 🤣🫣
So, yeah, didn't find it special

harsh owl
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Now imagine if you could select the items you wanted in the truck from a lengthy list, and you were guaranteed more than X percent to get items you could actually use

mighty gorge
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I'm just waiting for my reverse UNO to take place

prime hound
vale yoke
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But really, we gonna get some rogue-like? Fps? Omg are we gonna get classes like an RPG?

CAN I BE A NECROMANCER?!

mighty gorge
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I mean, If I can stop a 40ft Trailer on a dark, hidden back road and steal 500 PS5's, why can't i steal something worthwile in game.

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I would have said Xbox, but everyone knows they are not worth anything

vale yoke
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I don't like your true assessment.

mighty gorge
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Xbox is the equaivalent of the legendary badges

vale yoke
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They still have me though. They still have me.
Cone of shame

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Speaking of...

mighty gorge
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and no, I haven't watched Fallout yet.

vale yoke
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vibrates

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Do it.

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DoOo it.

mighty gorge
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I need a clear evening but TMNT and Green Earth Odyssey keeps calling me away

vale yoke
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Ew

sleek sparrow
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I agree with the xbox lost soul... do itttt

harsh owl
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At the end of each week they should have a grand prize hidden in a truck. No one knows which it is, or who will win but it's something like a Premium HQ, a mega pearl bundle, frags...whatever.

Just make it a little more exciting and worth doing.

cursive vessel
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They'll never do that, they don't like giving away things

mighty gorge
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We could have upgraded our trucks z_run

  • Larger engine for faster march times
  • Defensive Attributes
harsh owl
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A boy can only dream lol

sleek sparrow
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I'm torn on the truck event.. I'm like "meh" about it.. but my farm appreciates the freebies..

mighty gorge
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Just you all wait, it will all be in the pipeline. I predict Truck Bundles

cursive vessel
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Considering what you get in a good truck, 1 behe, 1 plasma etc etc, they'll never make it worth while. They just want people to think they're being nice by giving away free things 😂

harsh owl
sleek sparrow
cursive vessel
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Yeah but you need a lot of trucks to be able to do anything with that 1 item😅

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It's not particularly worth while

sleek sparrow
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Maybe not to a spender.. but to a f2p person.. EVERY plasma is precious..

mighty gorge
sleek sparrow
mighty gorge
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OK, my example was wasted lol

normal peak
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Question. How do you not become a leading state? And not be a super whale writing your super GM.

mighty gorge
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The answer to that question is a secret.

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Ohh, you wanted a serious answer?

normal peak
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Figured I would throw that out there

sleek sparrow
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I just think that for a lot of people in the Discord who are upset with the game forgetting f2p players... to then see so many people hating an event that takes up 30 seconds of your day but can collectively give you a few bits and bobs for absolutely free.. its sad too see.. yes this event isn't want people "wanted".. but it's something.. for the littles.. the farms.. the f2p.. its something.. its a start.. ♡

mighty gorge
cursive vessel
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I am a f2p and i still think it's terrible 🤷‍♀️

normal peak
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I’m F2P and love the 1 component piece I get that will upgrade my aircraft in 3000 business days

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Don’t give me that we are complaint about feee stuff

sleek sparrow
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But its still 1 piece more than u had before u raided the truck right?

normal peak
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You can’t be serious

sleek sparrow
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Not at all..

normal peak
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WTF that one piece going to do when you need 300

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Come on dude

sleek sparrow
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I just acknowledge that a free item.. is a free item.. and I'm grateful for it.. not cos of the company.m but because I'm tight and won't spend money lol

cursive vessel
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While I understand what you're saying, that 1 piece doesn't really help. You need a lot of 1 pieces to be able to upgrade something

sleek sparrow
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I 100% get you lana

mighty gorge
# normal peak Figured I would throw that out there

I don't think there is a one stop answer to this, simply because its the same back handed calculations that the developers use to manage migration scores etc. The only real aspect is to do with taking a top down view of:

  • Total BP (or equivalent state power score) within a state
  • Top 70 Players in the state and how they equate to the above
  • Number of 'active' (and this is subjective IMHO) participating members in a state for events
  • HQs above a certain level

If I recall, the first 1m troops counts towards scores for transfer, so I would have at a guess this is somewhere inside that.

normal peak
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And by time you collect all those 1 piece items they release something new

sleek sparrow
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I have a collect the pennies to make pounds mentality.. so I can appreciate the 1 piece here or there maybe differently that's all ♡ we are all allowed to feel differently..!

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Especially when the plasma troops research seems impossible.. couple of trucks allowed me to push another one today.. I'll take my tiny victory lol

cursive vessel
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My current state was a leading state (when i moved here) and then in the next transfer everyone left. Now for this transfer we're the lowest in the list
So, everyone leaving works 😂😂

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Sorry, that's not an helpful answer but still 😂

normal peak
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😂😂

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So you were able to move there when it was a leading state

cursive vessel
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They dropped out of leading so I managed to get in
Not really sure how they did it though if I'm honest

normal peak
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Ahh

mighty gorge
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5 of us left 398, with a combined BP of about 30bn BP. The state is now trailing. It wasn't before (and a number of lower players joined)

normal peak
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Can leading states still take on people or no

cursive vessel
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No, you have to drop from leading

normal peak
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Or is it limited

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Ok

mighty gorge
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From memory Its limited, to a maximum.

normal peak
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Or spend so much money the devs leave door open

mighty gorge
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And if you are above a certain power rating, you need a governor invite

normal peak
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Which is a limited amount

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So instead of 120 people maybe 6 can come

mighty gorge
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So, as a leading state you are pretty much screwed if you want people to join

normal peak
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Looks that way

dim salmon
normal peak
dim salmon
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Yes, I know. I always said I stay for the people I like. Now I can't even say that anymore because I can count the ones left on one hand.

normal peak
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Yup

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Most of the people I stayed for quit a long time ago..now it’s just a handful and my addiction has been exposed lol

tardy night
normal peak
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Power houses

tardy night
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If leading state in 1-792, that's already a powerhouse in the top 5% I reckon?

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You want to be in the league of fbi dyz?

prime hound
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even a 2-3b bp account would be their farms lol

fallow storm
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Hello,when and how do you want to give us 10 survival coins?
If someone cannot make in-app purchases, it is not because he is a stingy or poor person.
Some people can't because of political sanctions, and I don't know why you mix a gaming environment with politics.
Previous event you could buy some survival coins from event's store but this event nothing🙃
Please if possible a mod report this request,I will appreciate you...

tardy night
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24 of the 250 or so states of 1-792 are leading status. Close to 10% of the lot. 24 again are trailing.

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That's ....not a good group to be in unless you love matches where no one plays against you and you are spending 25k each month to play matches with absentees. Lmao

normal peak
prime hound
tardy night
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Lucky gachapon for Russians and belarussians. Tmnt collab

fallow storm
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We just need 10 more survival coins to complete task

prime hound
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Ok, I was just trying to clarify

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does this feedback cover your issue?

tardy night
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Nope

prime hound
tardy night
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Russians didn't get Collab event due to Nickelodeon restrictions placed on the region post war.

And since they are only able to access stores without being able to purchase anything, lucky gacha tasks in the comic remain unavailable for completion.

fallow storm
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Yes please

prime hound
prime hound
tardy night
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🤔

fallow storm
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Thank you so much

tardy night
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A vote isn't what's needed. Since the vote will be considered by the time the event would have ended already. If the vote can even garner enough attention to warrant moving past the spam filling the feedback reporting channel with inconsequential feedback.

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This is something to highlight directly to CMs. Since it will affect a large populace of players who do not access this server and are just told to use VPNs

Others aren't gonna upvote it. It doesn't concern them.

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Same bs as when we ask for anything to be done for gen skip states.

Majority voting criteria ensures it's never looked at.

prime hound
prime hound
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My pleasure Rainbow_Heart

tardy night
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Good luck shocked_froggie

boreal gate
pearl cedar
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I had that happen to me, I refreshed the game and it was fine

tiny quiver
boreal gate
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i had this issue on pc version...switch to phone and still same issue

tiny quiver
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The truck has gotten home but not before the game added it to your list

boreal gate
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oh damn they should probably fix that and remove trucks which are not available lol

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thank you grandma

pearl cedar
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There's a refresh button at the top if it happens again

boreal gate
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thank you! i refreshed

mighty gorge
# prime hound Here is the feedback, feel free to 🔼 vote: https://discord.com/channels/555639...

You have to be careful with this feedback. Essentially this is what you are saying:

  1. We are aware there are licence restrictions preventing access to the TMNT event in Russia/Belarus
  2. An unofficial unsanctioned or supported ToU breaking route is being used to access the event by some individuals
  3. Those using that route cannot purchase from the stores
  4. Please provide the missing coins to complete an event that we are not supposed to have access too, or admit to circumventing via an unsanctioned route (see point 2)

Do you see where I'm going with this?

Please also note, regardless of what people say, there isn't, nor has there ever been a communication, admittance or direction from Fun Plus to use a VPN. This is entirely at the individuals risk, and any potential ban they may receive as a result of breaking the ToU

winter canyon
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How to complete the ninja turtle task that requires 10 coins for gashapon?

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F2P players can't complete the comic💢

mighty gorge
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I completed it, on my F2P account.

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🤷‍♂️

winter canyon
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Where do you get the coins

mighty gorge
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But, that wasn't the point, the point was how the feedback was constructed

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It was centred around the regional restrictions

boreal gate
mighty gorge
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I remember doing both at once, yes

boreal gate
winter canyon
boreal gate
mighty gorge
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I already had coins, I just didn't use them, so when it appeared in week 4, I did both week 4 and the prior week at the same time

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But, just again to point out, that wasn't the point of my post back to Lioness. Had it been written differently, or the other feedback post referred to for upvote, i probably wouldn't have said anything

winter canyon
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I gave up with feedback tbh... I have feedbacks many months old that they completely ignored🤣

winter canyon
unreal lichen
tardy night
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Using VPN isn't forbidden in T&C.

VPNs that provide an advantage in price differences or lead to other users loading accounts is what gets folks highlighted.

Changes in IP address will be normal often enough and I don't believe they can tell whether it's a VPN or a normal change in address game is accessed from.

tardy night
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Point out where in T&C they put VPNs

mighty gorge
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And yes they can tell.

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The question is whether they choose to act on it

tardy night
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Yeah but where is it in T&C

mighty gorge
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I would need to find the specific line tbh, but as usual they are written in such a way that it won't say VPN. The wording will intimate a reason. And that reason will be enough providing they can prove it, which they can if your account is registered via the ID in one region and you're accessing the game from an address in another.

tardy night
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See the entirety of article 7 of their T&C

mighty gorge
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I'm just about to cook dinner so walked away from my PC

tardy night
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Yes I know, check it out. Cuz there are several regions which require a VPN to just play the game itself.

nova agate
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Hi . Do you guys also can't contact helpl& support in game?

mighty gorge
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But equally the position still stands that they have never advocated use

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And never will

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So you need to stop saying that

tardy night
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1 You agree that in using the Services (including the creation of UGC) you will neither by yourself nor promote, encourage, or help others to:

7.1.3 sell, rent, lease, share or provide access to your Account or access or attempt to access the Accounts of other users or penetrate or attempt to penetrate any security measures relating to the Services;

7.1.4 partake in any behaviour that we may deem inappropriate and disruptive, or against the tone and nature of the Services;

7.1.17 take advantage of the price differential of Virtual Items to make profit by buying and/or selling Virtual items from/in different territories; and

7.1.18 exploit the Services, for any commercial purposes, including without limitation (a) using a cyber cafe, computer gaming centre or any other physical site; (b) gathering Virtual Items, or other in-game resources for sale outside the Game; or (c) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-levelling.

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I will say that because the terms do not in any manner highlight any instance where a VPN by itself is against the terms. If I have missed it point them out please

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those are the clauses where they might try to say a vpn is involved and against what they deem inappropriate

mighty gorge
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7.1.17 is about profiteering and selling.

tardy night
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I'm merely pointing out where they might deem usage of VPNs to be against their policy. The instrument itself is nowhere within the T&C

mighty gorge
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Like I said. I would need to go back, and just making dinner but it was a clause previously posted

tardy night
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Do let me know where, cuz then I definitely missed it.

mighty gorge
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If I'm wrong I'll say, but I recall it from the entire not being able to access conversation weeks ago

tardy night
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its not a part of new terms that I can see, unless someone put up terms from 21 maybe? :-?

austere spoke
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sip its been long... any update on dd rewards ? 😅milklaugh

raw light
harsh owl
silent pike
pearl cedar
long pendant
harsh owl
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  1. When 7th march with all these heroes we have?
  2. Gen 1-3/4 should be gatherers and and Travis reduction in stam costs should be extended to 3 of the Gen 4/5 heroes.
  3. When 3rd Behemoth-Godzilla?

For folks that are on Gen 16...what are you doing/using Gen 1-5 for, if anything?

harsh owl
# long pendant Use of vpn violates funplus ToU as it violates clause 7.1.13, 15.3 & clause 23.1...

Here's the issue with that, because they only see things from the same manipulative lens they themselves practice.

  1. I'm a digital nomad.
  2. Many clients require me to use a VPN to access their tools, libraries or other systems.
  3. Ally Bank and other N.American banks won't allow you to access their platform outside of the country, so you need a VPN.

So, their TOU assumes again, players are using a VPN for instances that abuse the game, while innocent players like myself have zero interest in doing that and I just want to access my client portals, and bank.

Was it you I spoke with about this the other day or another mod?

long pendant
harsh owl
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Not any specific doubts, more so your opinion and interpretation of their TOU for the use cases I've shared above.

tardy night
long pendant
empty oxide
tardy night
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Let me put them down here. Point out which part of those allude to a vpn

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23.1 OUR GAMES AND SERVICES ARE PROVIDED ON AN “AS IS” AND “AS AVAILABLE” BASIS. TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED UNDER APPLICABLE LAW, WE PROVIDE NO EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY WARRANTIES THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS OR USE OUR GAMES OR SERVICES AT THE TIMES OR LOCATIONS OF YOUR CHOOSING OR THAT OUR GAMES OR SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR FREE OF ERRORS, BUGS, CORRUPTION, LOSS, INTERFERENCE, HACKING OR VIRUSES. ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE NOT LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY LOSS OR DAMAGE THAT MIGHT ARISE, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE INOPERABILITY, UNAVAILABILITY OR SECURITY VULNERABILITIES OF OUR GAMES AND SERVICES OR FROM YOUR RELIANCE ON THE QUALITY, ACCURACY, OR RELIABILITY OF OUR GAMES AND SERVICES. WE ALSO MAKE NO GUARANTEE THAT OUR GAMES AND SERVICES WILL WORK WITH OR CAN BE ACCESSED ON ANY PARTICULAR DEVICES, PLATFORMS, OPERATING SYSTEMS OR EQUIPMENT, OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY PARTICULAR SOFTWARE OR CONNECTIVITY SERVICES. WE DO NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR SUCH EQUIPMENT, SOFTWARE OR SERVICES. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE WILL NOT BE LIABLE FOR ANY INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL LOSSES AND DAMAGES, INCLUDING LOSS OF DIRECT AND INDIRECT PROFITS, GOODWILL OR DATA IN ANY WAY ARISING.

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15.3 We cannot guarantee that our Games or any part of our Services will work on or be compatible with or capable of being accessed on any particular devices, platforms, operating systems or equipment, or in conjunction with any particular software or connectivity services not approved by us. We do not accept responsibility for such equipment, software or services. We also do not guarantee that our Services can be accessed in all geographic locations.

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7.1.13 use any robot, spider, site search/retrieval application or other manual or automatic device or process to retrieve, index, ‘data mine’ or in any way reproduce or circumvent the content, navigational structure or presentation of our Services;

harsh owl
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And one other question. Say I lost access to my account but can prove without any reasonable doubt I have NEVER accessed any 3rd party platform for bundles or whatever players are doing, and my clients tracking system and bank logs prove exactly what I was doing, when and down to the times, then what?

tardy night
harsh owl
empty oxide
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I'll write something and send it to you for approval 🙂

harsh owl
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Sounds great. Thank you!

vivid grove
long pendant
tardy night
# vivid grove What’s up?

I'm being told 15.3, 23.1 and 7.1.13 clause of the T&C say VPNs aren't allowed.

I posted all 3 above for everyone's perusal. Do help me how any of the 3 refer to VPNs

long pendant
tardy night
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Sure. Where's the violation occuring.

long pendant
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DLMOD is here he will help you understand it

tardy night
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🤟happy to continue with them.

spiral rain
tardy night
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Don't need to, oracle is here. Don't overstep on mod etiquette now

vivid grove
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7.1.17 take advantage of price difference… use of VPN to gain access to another country currency that’s the way I’ve been taught.

tardy night
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And if the prices are the same there's no advantage.

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Since the currency is locked to home country's currency lately, where is the price advantage accrued from?

vivid grove
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And that’s pretty much a standard across all games. Bypassing your home county App Store prices.

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Mostly to use exchange rates advantages

tardy night
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Yes, so that is a method which doesn't say specifically VPNs are disallowed. It says VPNs which helps you circle around pricing differences.

People who do not buy do not have any violations occuring.

austere spoke
vivid grove
austere spoke
tardy night
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The rule itself doesn't refer to any vpn at all. The rule is strictly about price differences

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I could walk across the border of Netherlands to Germany and get different tax rates.

austere spoke
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It's good. Helped me stop spending

austere spoke
tardy night
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When Germans had a tax regime change, they got rebates sent back by the game in 21 or so. Belgians and Dutch living 20km away didn't.

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7.1.17 apply for pricing differences not for vpn itself.

vivid grove
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My ip on my phone changes daily. But again if you aren’t using the VPN to gain those price differences then it’s a non issue

tardy night
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Yes. So there's no clause in T&c regarding a blanket ban on VPNs.
Specifically when accessing just to play the game. Not for purchases.

vale yoke
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Hello... Oh... Hm... ToU talk... Goodbye

tardy night
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Idk what's making mods cite 15.3 or 23.1. Is that part of training or something? At least highlight the difference. Places like Iran have folks accessing the game via vpns. Without any purchases. Key difference.

silent pike
vale yoke
vivid grove
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Ok perfect. So what are we arguing about? Do you want that specifically to be added and spelled out in the ToU? Because clearly it’s there in 7.1.17.

7.1.17 take advantage of the price differential of Virtual Items to make profit by buying and/or selling Virtual items from/in different territories; and

However I’m not a lawyer. But there are only so many ways to take advantage of virtual items.

silent pike
mighty gorge
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I did point this out before.

vale yoke
cursive vessel
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👀

mighty gorge
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But it appears that the original premise behind what I said has been lost considerably

vale yoke
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Tbh I don't even know what everyone is going back and forth about?

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Can we tldr for me?

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ToU and VPN?

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Yes?

vivid grove
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I may be. Again I’m not a lawyer. But taking advantage of virtual items by using a vpn would fall in that category imo.

mighty gorge
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Dumb bot lol

vivid grove
tardy night
mighty gorge
vivid grove
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Which one?

silent pike
vale yoke
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That is accurate, Chek. While VPNs are not explicitly stated as a violation of ToU, the use of them could potentially fall under a few different umbrellas within the service agreement.
It's deliberately vague for that reason, as all are. If a person in, say, Iran is using a VPN simply to play the game without accessing alternative pricing options, then that falls under a normal use. The company however accepts no liability if that user incurs service issues as a result of using that VPN.
If a user is using a VPN to access alternative pricing, for the purposes of malicious or unsavory behaviors, etc, then the ToU state that the company isnt liable for those actions, but has the authority to act and revoke service for that/those violations.

Basically. Ish.

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It's more wishy-washy, and vaguely worded so they can get away with stuff, but yeah

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Basically they aren't liable for what they say they aren't liable for, and even what they are liable for, they aren't liable because ToU.

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Glad we had this chat. Going back to my hole.

tardy night
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Removal of obligations for usage of a service that isn't officially supported is very different from it being illegal or banned.

Software from 98 doesn't have any official obligations for support from their original vendors. I know a few companies still hosting services from back then. Banks and hospitals mostly.

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The wishy washy rulings can be interpreted to ban access from the game itself for any mobile device. Are we going for those broad interpretations?

vivid grove
# mighty gorge Here

I can give you Funplus email address. That’s above my grade to even answer. We all as players provide the feedback and it’s in our duty as mods to follow upwards.

vale yoke
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But yeah, to clarify, NO, the use of VPNs isn't particularly or explicitly stated as a no-no in the Terms of Service, and if a moderator is saying they are, then they need to be re-educated.
It's the use of the VPN, the context and intent, which determines the actions the company can and will take in regards to user services when it comes to VPNs.

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As it stands, VPNs can either be a benefit to some players, or a detriment, as they are neither protected nor condemned under the Terms

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Mind the gap

mighty gorge
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It was pretty easy really. Just change the feedback to read that there is a requirement for additional coins to complete the event for f2p players, and they should also be available from the store. Nothing about territories or location needed to be even mentioned.

vale yoke
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Idk why it just went into left field then?

mighty gorge
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Not sure how it all got so complicated when all I was trying to do was educate and steer

vale yoke
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Was there something shiny that way? Can I see?

vivid grove
vale yoke
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Oh God the sarcastic ones are a whole issue for me personally.

mighty gorge
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And you've changed plenty of mine recently without discussion when creating the Top 10

vale yoke
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That part. Can confirm.

full rampart
vivid grove
full rampart
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I need a few minutes to catch up but while that.

Gooooddd evening

mighty gorge
# vivid grove I’ll allow Tallie to try and break down how the feedback is done. It was her spe...

This isn't specific to Tallie. I used that as an example so I would rather you didn't slopey shoulder the discussion to someone else. What concerns me now is that as a lead mod you are actually advocating bad or poorly written feedback by just taking it word for word with no attempt to guide or socialise, when mods should actually be creating and in some cases translating what is received into constructive feedback. I think this is pretty bad tbh.

vale yoke
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But going back to the ToU conversation as it relates to VPN, I would like to add that not all uses of VPN are viewed equally. As previously stated, if a person is using a VPN to access alternative pricing options, that falls under a misuse and the company accepts the responsibility to revoke that player's services.
The same is also true if there are players accessing content and pricing options outside of international laws, regulations, and/or sanctions. So promoting the use of VPN is something I do think the moderators should stay away from in terms of liability - because you're more replaceable than we are - and be clear that the use of a VPN is something each user takes into their own liability as it relates to the Terms of Use.

full rampart
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So I’m sorry which feedback exactly are we talking about I tried to read up but I didn’t get it

tardy night
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The one from Mundoshocked_froggie

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About adding the 6th cthulhu

full rampart
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So as I see I belive what the feedback asks is a chance for f2p players or players that can’t buy packs to be able to complete the Turle Ninja Adventures ?
Finally I reached to the beginning

full rampart
tardy night
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It's like one of the best pokemons ever BlushFrog

full rampart
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Please don’t give them ideeas Pokémon’s and unicorns are the last thing we need a_sheeeesh_cry_shock_no

pearl cedar
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ShiftyEyes me whilst looking at my ninetails tattoo

sleek sparrow
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Pokemon and unicorns??? IM IN!!

full rampart
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I can’t wait for migo to be over to have a 2 weeks of doing nothing not even dailies

empty oxide
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Naruto's Ninetails would be so cool as a Behemoth. OR Naruto and Ninetails as a new hero BlushFrog

full rampart
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no a_sheeeesh_cry_shock_no

empty oxide
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Awwww come oooon talliioeeeplssss

full rampart
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We have enough heroes and behemoths squint

full rampart
empty oxide
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No one saw that.

sleek sparrow
empty oxide
pearl cedar
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A pokemon card collection with shinys

full rampart
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makes notes to bonk people a_zbun_notes_think_yes

empty oxide
full rampart
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Wooooooooo BlushFrog

empty oxide
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Eeey there you go!

pearl cedar
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Back to pokemon... 😅.. pokeball HQ skin with ninetail sentinels shocked_froggie

unreal lichen
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Oh yes I copy that

sleek sparrow
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Ponyta March? Yes please

full rampart
sleek sparrow
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Charizard wings.. 😲

full rampart
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I’m watching you squint

unreal lichen
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Chimchar behemoth

sleek sparrow
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I'm hiding before tallie gets suuuuuuper mad

full rampart
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Better hide scarybutnotthatscary onfire

sleek sparrow
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Pssssttt... eldritch made me say it.. blame them..

pearl cedar
elfin blade
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Is there confirmation/ can we get whether the turtle stores will open with same currency (and we keep it) like RE did in stage 2?

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They sent unusually clear messages for RE but not seen any of that for turtles so far

twin grotto
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And just for reference, here’s the calendar for stage 2 Hugssss

elfin blade
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Okay sounds like it will stay then, still would be good to confirm 😁 we all know how often things change

twin grotto
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The duration of the event itself still has 59 days left so it’s going to stay till then. Glad I could help TA_animepat

harsh owl
# vale yoke But going back to the ToU conversation as it relates to VPN, I would like to add...

Sorry to hear you're not feeling well.

When you get a moment I'd like to get your thoughts on what I posted about my use cases of a VPN above.

It has nothing to do with packs, bundles or anything else players might be involved in that could be deemed illicit activity. While I understand the TOU is there to protect the interests and investment of FP, I also understand that when there are problems in a TOU, such as use cases it may not have considered it might be a good idea to update it.

vale yoke
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I'd be happy to, Future. Let me go ahead and find your words, read them over, and marinade my thoughts for a sec.
Also, thank you, I'll be at about 90% recovered tomorrow, I can feel it. Anyway, going to find your use post now

long pendant
vague shoal
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Any recommendations on F2P most efficient rewards path for tycoon? Will stage 1 rewards be unlockable in later stages? Would it make sense to save dice until later stage to try 1 upgrade push? Obviously cannot afford to keep having buildings reset each stage. This event design seems bad

harsh owl
harsh owl
silent pike
vale yoke
# harsh owl Here's the issue with that, because they only see things from the same manipulat...

Ah, okay, I see here.

Firstly, I'd like to start off by stating that, as we know, the Terms of Use are intentionally vague in regards to various topics. One of those topics is software/hardware.

When discussing how the Terms of Use correlate to specific case uses, we have to assume first that the Terms of Use are vague enough to allow for manipulation of context in either direction. Sure, we know the devs can manipulate context when they say "this user used a VPN to access the Brazilian store and they're in Russia and it's a consistent issue so their service is suspended", but how does that same contextual manipulation work in regards to users?
In short, it doesn't. Well, it does, in that if you can prove that you've had no unsatisfactory uses, no misuses, etc, and all the documentation is there, then you would be able to work alongside customer support in recovering your account.
Which I do have reference to happening with some prior account bans. It took months in some cases, but a few users were able to recover their accounts when illustrating good faith use. But it's an uphill battle and it can get annoying.

I would also like it noted that the company doesn't view VPNs as inherently negative or malicious, the same as they don't view personal security softwares as inherently negative or malicious. It is only when the use of VPN is for malicious intent or violates the Terms of Use (profiteering, hacking, doxxing, circumventing proper pay auths, etc) that it is viewed as negative. Sort of like how security software isn't bad until it shows that FunPlus transmits data or has poor site security protocols which flag as a spam risk.

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I mean, as an American, it's something my country actively promotes as a part of personal security, is utilizing a VPN. HOWEVER, if it were to be used for unsafe or unauthorized reasons, aka violations, then I would be liable for the consequences of that use under most ToU/ToS which have such clauses regarding software/hardware usages.

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The fact that I am both under the weather and more baked than a cake makes all of that ^^ impressive. Btw

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And Future, btw, you're more than welcome to message me anytime as well. It's never an imposition to me, in any venue. Here or there

tepid rivet
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Congrats on the promotion, Tallie 👀

silent pike
# vague shoal Any recommendations on F2P most efficient rewards path for tycoon? Will stage 1 ...

Previous stage reward will be unlockable in later stages. Like if we are in the 2nd stage, upgrading above 16 won't give you rewards towards the 3rd stage, but you will have to finish all the rewards stages from stage 1 to be able to get the rewards for stage 2.
In the case for a free to play player it would be better to save up as much dice as you can before spending them as repairing those buildings can become really expensive especially on higher levels.

harsh owl
# vale yoke Ah, okay, I see here. Firstly, I'd like to start off by stating that, as we kn...

Yeah, for how I can imagine you're feeling I'm genuinely impressed you dropped all of that for me, and so quickly. Thank you.

It sounds about right, not that I was or intend to do anything that was causing me any great deal of stress regarding a VPN.

I just wanted a clear answer because I use a VPN for client engagements, banking, and security. I have one on all 6 of my devices shocked_froggie

Fun fact: I contracted at a large music label once and had to use a VPN on top of a VPN, which raised some initial concerns by the companies IT department that this could be problematic due to how their VPN and credentialing worked, but it actually worked to everyones surprise. This was at a time when 2 VPNs running simultaneously was believed to be problematic, especially on a MacBook Pro, but it worked without a hitch, once I started them in the correct order and initiated one small step first.

I did ask someone here the other day and the answers seemed vague and by the book, not specific to my particular use cases, which as I pointed out to them and here as well have nothing to do with what FP would be concerned about.

I think you're spot on in that it's intentionally vague, as some of these TOU tend to be. Thanks again. Really appreciate your response ChickHeart2

vale yoke
harsh owl
vale yoke
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As long as you don't pay any compliments. I genuinely don't know how to take them and just kind of awkwardly side shuffle out of a room

stable cosmos
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I did skim read the tou. Vpn, at least as i recall is not mentioned. What is mentioned is that you may not present yourself as something you are not for a monetary advantage ir whatever

vale yoke
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That would be considered malicious use

stable cosmos
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Which is as stated above, very vague. And probably hard to prove

worthy bloom
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Its game use vpn who care

radiant mica
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I wish I was a little bit more tech savvy - you all just kind of blow me away. I hit run and hope for the best!

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Don't tell my husband I said that... he is very tech savvy.

vale yoke
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Now if a user has service revoked and can prove they haven't used a VPN for any malicious use, including monetary advantage, then they can go through the customer service contact info which is included within the terms of use (if I recall), or use one of the help emails also located on this server to assist support with correcting the error. But it does take time.

stable cosmos
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Well the tou are ridiculous and they're gonna get shafted in the court case if they use them as any form of defence

worthy bloom
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who care about tos 🤔

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if want use vpn if don't want dont use

harsh owl
vale yoke
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Honestly, I'm not about to discuss how the ToU can be affected in a way which would assist the company and any legal situations. Lol

stable cosmos
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Well the mods here will enforce rules in this discord based on tos.

worthy bloom
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You all make it like a problem.

radiant mica
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shocked_froggie can't I just put tinfoil in our attic?

worthy bloom
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when its just game

mighty gorge
stable cosmos
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Or give the wrong answer and get someone to "well actually" you in 2 seconds

mighty gorge
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I'm not technical though ..so don't ask me ha

vale yoke
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I think it's more of a cause for concern that people aren't sure where the grey area actually is in the Terms regarding what is and isn't allowable. And that's fine. People should be concerned as it relates to them personally, but also they should just be aware that what is vague for the company is also equally vague for the consumer. Wink wink

radiant mica
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I'm actually not that illiterate when it comes to tech - but some of the stuff goes over my head! No I just ask you about bacon!

vale yoke
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I am. My husband is talking about hardware and I'm like ???

radiant mica
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Well if it isn't open source, my husband walks the other way!

mighty gorge
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What's a computer?

stable cosmos
#

That ad was terrible

worthy bloom
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somthing like tv

vale yoke
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"I'm just gonna make a series of noises while you're talking, and assume I know what you're saying and they're affirmations"

mighty gorge
#

If I edit a .ini file is it considered hacking?

unreal lichen
stable cosmos
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Always back up your ini file before you hack it or you forget what the original values are. I stuffed up a game doing that

harsh owl
unreal lichen
worthy bloom
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to learn anything on pc just click buttons

stable cosmos
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It still worked,but i have no idea what the damage values are meant to be any more so everything is hyper unbalanced

mighty gorge
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I don't have an any key on my keyboard

radiant mica
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Get out the tinfoil.

stable cosmos
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You should have a tab

mighty gorge
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It says press the any key

stable cosmos
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No keyboard found. Please press F1 to continue

mighty gorge
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See I'm not techie

vale yoke
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It says to Enter, but I don't see a door?? All it says is there are Windows??

radiant mica
#

You all are making me chuckle a little too loud at work.

vale yoke
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And it says the Windows give XP? How much XP?

worthy bloom
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1

vale yoke
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Score!

mighty gorge
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Shouldn't that be 010101010

stable cosmos
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Ah xp. A simpler time. Before the hell of cloud

vale yoke
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Wait hang on. Now it says I have mail. But I just went outside and checked, and no I don't. I think it's broken. Google I broke one of my windows xps

mighty gorge
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Windows 3.1 and MSDOS 6.22

stable cosmos
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Yes i like everything slowing to a crawl because my connection isn't fantastic and all my settings are offsite. Its wonderful

mighty gorge
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I have an MCSE in Windows NT4.0, beat that

vale yoke
#

Google how do I fix my Windows XP. Google contractor to fix windows.

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Google glass repair

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Okay, that's enough, I now feel like my grandmother and the joke has gone too far.

full rampart
mighty gorge
radiant mica
stable cosmos
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You need a map for this one sometimes

worthy bloom
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google tell me dont spend on sos

vale yoke
mighty gorge
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Go West, Go North. You're in a forest. Go South. You're in a Forest, there is a Bear.

radiant mica
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OK - let's talk about bacon!

stable cosmos
#

We should be allowed to speak of dos games...

vale yoke
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And cd roms

last hazel
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Please follow the server rules

tardy night
# worthy bloom You all make it like a problem.

Well see, when someone breaks into your acc, tells your cc details to approx 1k folks, doxxes your name, dismantles troops, tries to transact from your card, it's not the games fault. They don't owe you damages

When you buy 10$ cheaper off the 200k you could have donated on the app, it's entirely your fault. shocked_froggie

vale yoke
#

It's almost like that happened. Oh, wait...

full rampart
mighty gorge
#

You enter the feedback discussion room. You see an angry Mod. Go South

#

Sorry, just playing DOS games

tardy night
#

Frank and Einstein?

stable cosmos
#

Theres a text adventure inside chrome, i forget how to get at it

mighty gorge
#

The Hobbit

full rampart
worthy bloom
mighty gorge
tardy night
stable cosmos
#

Huh, I'm allowed to use that word

radiant mica
#

Which word - chicken?

vale yoke
#

Sure... Chicken... Lol

full rampart
#

Do you know some cultures even eat the legs?

last hazel
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I do shocked_froggie

stable cosmos
#

Same deal. Someone else took the good bits.

worldly sable
full rampart
#

Ups yes sorry

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The feets

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My grandma says is the best part of the chicken a_sheeeesh_cry_shock_no

worldly sable
#

I don't yuck people's yums haha. My parents like it too

full rampart
worldly sable
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I'll eat it, but it's not my favorite

#

I've put worse thing in my mouth

mighty gorge
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👀

stable cosmos
#

Probably tastes like overcooked chicken skin tbh. Theres just nothing really there to eat.

unreal lichen
last hazel
livid pond
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What does chicken feet taste like? 🤔

unreal lichen
livid pond
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I never tried but i can imagine it being good. shocked_froggie or maybe i am just hungry so all sounds good 😂

unreal lichen
cloud vale
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Even my special task was buy a pack

livid pond
livid pond
unreal lichen
unreal lichen
livid pond
livid pond
cloud vale
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Those normal tasks are useless now, with these special tasks and the 1 per day task

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Now that I think about it. The only task i get from those is the pack one 😂.

mighty gorge
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I ate cured Kangaroo once

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oh, and ostrich

livid pond
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Well i do take the explorer ones sometimes or gathering ones with instant gathering. I would do it either way so why not gather points but yes most come from the special one.
Keep refreshing it and hope its something usefulBlushFrog

livid pond
stray acorn
vale yoke
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There's this company here in the States which makes exotic jerky. I used to sell it at my old job. Boar, elk, kangaroo, gator...

livid pond
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I mean everything can be food if you believe in itshocked_froggie

stable cosmos
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Everything is edible. Some things are only edible once

livid pond
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YessBlushFrog

vale yoke
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Slippers?

stray acorn
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Everything is edible unless that everything is faster and also think the same about u

stray acorn
livid pond
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I mean is there truly something that is not edible? Maybe air?🤔

stray acorn
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pineapple on pizza

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it's not edible

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is a poison

livid pond
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I give you thatshocked_froggie 😂

stray acorn
#

WISDOM OF SLIPPER!

livid pond
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And now i run before someone that loves pineapple on pizza reads this. steals slipper and runs then falls ZombieLove

boreal gate
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quick question... in the green odyssey...you have to finish the stage 1 to be able to proceed to get rewards in stage 2 right? or is it not dependent on each other?

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dumb question i watched a video about it and it confused me

white turret
boreal gate
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so for example if i want the last stage rewards i can skips all stages until the stage 7 and id be able to get the rewards in stage 7?

white turret
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Yes if you wanted to. The stages are separate. But you wouldn’t be able to get those stage rewards again so be mindful of that.

pearl cedar
white turret
astral stratus
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Dis I wont classify as feedback

#

Just saying

pearl cedar
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Instead if peacemaker, maybe you become matchmaker..

stable cosmos
astral stratus
stable cosmos
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Premium items, sure, i get missing out. But basic events are biased against you unless you're spending

pearl cedar
stable cosmos
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Like this tycoon junk. I should get to the end of EVERY prize track assuming i do the stuff in game. This is impossible. Should i get ranking prizes for doing so, absolutely not. Thats for those that pay and do extra. Thats fine. But don't stop me getting the basics...

astral stratus
stray acorn
vale yoke
white turret
stray acorn
vale yoke
stray acorn
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but if u like i can record and share a clip

vale yoke
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We say please lol

white turret
frosty fern
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You must 100% stage 1 rewards to get a chance for stage 2 rewards

stray acorn
white turret
stray acorn
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we were testing this event in PTR

vale yoke
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🤣

white turret
vale yoke
#

I'll just go back to my cave and rock out.

frosty fern
white turret
# stray acorn we were testing this event in PTR

Nothing against you this server has just earned the reputation of having no clue what there talking about. But since you mentioned Ptr I’d definitely be curious to hear about your testing. And I do apologize about my comment eariler it is kinda like disrespectful American slang. Because I just get annoyed 9/10 when I come here.

frosty fern
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They do not care for us at all

stray acorn
white turret
#

lol alright

frosty fern
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They are scared that we might become a live server one day and we will become too 'OP'🤣🤣

stray acorn
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now they do everything in their power to prove that it's a test server, event wrong prizes in events!

frosty fern
stray acorn
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or changing things from ptr to live

stray acorn
frosty fern
frosty fern
stray acorn
#

but yes we could

#

XD

white turret
stray acorn
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we have stage3 in ptr and I'm waiting

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but I hope they've changed it so people can have the chance to have goodies from stage2 too

vocal zephyr
#

The custom crate in the TMNT store does not have the certificate of honor. But the same crate in the pearl store has it. Is it possible to add it to the TMNT crates please? Thank you

visual frigate
#

I am sure people brought this up before, but there are too few level 8 and 9 crystal mines in states for the number of people wanting them. So everyone just keeps getting knocked out

unreal lichen
#

Chaos, fuel hate, rage spend, fight, rage spend…. Devs win by design

distant gull
#

How to get Zach?

tardy night
#

Is that one of the generations they brought in and then changed? 3.1 or something

vocal zephyr
worn pewter
#

What did they do with all our cooking material?

austere aurora
worn pewter
austere aurora
cloud ridge
#

Ahem

worn pewter
#

These idiots

cloud ridge
#

Mods

worn pewter
#

Took cooking materials

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To give resources

cloud ridge
#

Duck has lots of angry words he wants to say

worn pewter
#

Gtfo out of here

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@merry scroll what gives 💩 head

fallow lodge
#

devs sneaky you save magic dice up and they take them of you when stage two starts. it says at the end of event in description not rounds...dodgy btds

hasty tulip
#

This event started today

worn pewter
#

And they took all our cooking materials today

fallow lodge
worn pewter
#

Give them back

#

You can’t take away something we need right before we have to use it

#

With zero notice

worldly sable
#

The worst of the rss packs 😂

fallow lodge
#

they can and they have because they have no care for 1 person in the game they only care about money

worn pewter
#

Yup

proud dagger
#

pls stop

worn pewter
#

FP robbing players again, gfc

worldly sable
#

Can’t stop won’t stop

pallid willow
fallow lodge
stray acorn
fallow lodge
#

they listened they just dont care

worn pewter
white turret
#

Bruh💀💀😂

#

Bruh this is like 3 years of savingLMAO

pallid willow
cloud ridge
#

wow

shut meteor
#

Try me hades 😂🤣

fallow lodge
white turret
# shut meteor

Dangit you spoood!! I swear you come from no where 🤣🤣

shut meteor
#

😂😂

white turret
shut meteor
pallid willow
thorny plume
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Stingy fooks, wheres my cookingstuff

shut meteor
#

I’m not too mad I got a sgt whiskers sticker

pallid willow
#

I thought they spired cause of the timer below them tho, but didn’t mind cause since we get little of then anyways

shut meteor
shut meteor
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Turned into the green resources

thorny plume
#

😂 what a bunch of sneaks

shut meteor
#

Not even the blue

#

I got 168k

thorny plume
#

Good, i really needed ressourses

fallow lodge
#

who needs rss anyway

shut meteor
#

I don’t

#

I have like 60b and then backpack full

pallid willow
#

Lets be careful or they will take away our rss too 💀

thorny plume
#

Yes no me neither really... Im just waiting to login and they remove 30b tomatoes or wood due to rot or something

pallid willow
#

Next thing we will be left lacking rss asf

white turret
white turret
thorny plume
#

Man this was bad

shut meteor
#

Now I need to spam infected to get them back

#

😔😡

thorny plume
#

I converted tonns last time 😦 just so I didnt have to spend hours clicking explore this time

#

Only have 4000 breads left.. Christ

shut meteor
#

I have 36k bread

thorny plume
#

I hope whoever came up with that idea falls on a potato butt baked

shut meteor
#

But still

fallow lodge
#

anyone noticed you cant even rank unless you upgrade buildings again atm its at zero, how the hell are some people going to rank at these upgrade costs

shut meteor
#

Anyone have the cooking material list

#

As in what stuff makes the item

thorny plume
#

Rick has it 😅

shut meteor
#

Oo

thorny plume
#

Unless they changed it.. hes awake

cloud ridge
#

forget the list, no one has any ingredients to make them anyway...

white turret
#

Imgaine how much higher they get lol

fallow lodge
#

yeah im at 3 each so to rank i have to do a 4, f2p have no chance

worn pewter
white turret
#

It says if I upgrade this building to level 2 I will forfeit rewards

worn pewter
#

Ranking is done by upgrading the buildings

white turret
#

What does this even mean. I watched video on it already. So confusing

visual frigate
#

Nn

worn pewter
#

First time?

visual frigate
#

N

fallow lodge
white turret
# visual frigate Nn

Block him. Get your state to zero him. Get another state to zero him during SvS. Etc.

worn pewter
#

I have a guy in my state that harasses my wife in game calling her trans and other 💩

fallow lodge
#

why deleted i didnt even get to read

visual frigate
#

I had an old message typed up but never sent it because I didn't bother, and now it posted.

worn pewter
#

This is why I have been asking for over a year to give us more ability to block rather than just 50

visual frigate
#

with the screenshot

worn pewter
#

Dude makes a new account when he stops getting attention

fallow lodge
#

burn him

worn pewter
#

🙄 I would, state rules and such

#

He hides behind alt accounts when he speaks

fallow lodge
white turret
#

Just get proof of it with screenshots and show your state leaders.

worn pewter
white turret
#

Yeah he’s talking about your wife. I would have zeroed him and found him in irl and burned him😂🤣

worn pewter
#

But I know

white turret
worn pewter
#

I try to keep the peace tbh

white turret
#

There’s nothing peaceful about that troll. I guess you could just ignore it or block.

worn pewter
#

Nope

fallow lodge
#

our state has unspoken rule for that kind of thing. they get burned. i wouldnt even ask permission

worn pewter
#

That’s what I decided to do

#

Just block and keep it rolling

thorn axle
#

Deku, could you send me any screenshots of this in state chat?

worn pewter
#

You’re not going after his main account without proof of who it is

#

And I can’t provide that

thorn axle
#

I can speak with the game Lmod we have, see if we can do something about it

worn pewter
#

While I appreciate the thought, I’m more than aware that without proof that the game is not going to go for an IP ping to verify the account

#

Nor do I believe that they care that much

olive sluice
#

You ... devs stole my ingredients! 🤬
Go on with that crap and see who will still pay your bills!

#

@merry scroll

worn pewter
#

What they could do is make sure I don’t hit the cap of 50 blocks and allow more

thorny plume
#

Why you guys keep changing your game ? Now i had a gear I reforged and i still need to wait 30 days ? It used to be that you could relist it once you had reforged or ascended ??

thorny plume
thorn axle
#

I get where you’re coming from deku, if you do change your mind, then you’re welcome to show me the screenshots and I can try and take it from there

thorny plume
#

Suddenly that has cooldowns aswell ?

worn pewter
#

But I would hate to waste anyone’s time on this worthless guy

tardy night
#

On today's list of fartplus throwing folks down and holding them underwater we have mats being recycled that folks used inventory mats for and a diamond deposit scheme. BlushFrog

#

Anddd the inevitable lag of duels. Stay tuned for more.

pallid willow
#

They even nerfed the amount of chef stuff we earn through the day 😒

vale yoke
# tardy night Anddd the inevitable lag of duels. Stay tuned for more.

Thanks Chek!
I'm on the scene here at State of Survival Official Discord where the player community has realized shenanigans are afoot. Among top complaints: Chief Chef event ingredients being converted to resources without prior notice, as well as a marked reduction in earned components.
Reactions here have ranged from frustrated to angry, with the overall community expressing discontent once again.
Only time will tell how this story will develop.
Back to you, Chek!

iron pagoda
#

Hello silly questions but cant find what i do with these

thorny hornet
olive sluice
proud dagger
# iron pagoda

the first is for the Weekly Deal Store and the second is to pull troop out of enlistment

vale yoke
vivid grove
misty pewter
#

Greedy dev strikes again! The cooking event was a super easy way of getting 15k bios daily

vivid grove
#

Or is it because Migo Ends soon?

thorny hornet
vivid grove
#

rub I might have just figured out my own question

proud dagger
tardy night
vivid grove
vale yoke
proud dagger
#

they sent us the leftovers last time. i think if they'd give you a warning that you're not getting a full 7 days of boosts, selling us the items and delivering the leftovers after migo is over wouldn't be much of a problem

#

more importantly, i wanna know why we're buying dice to earn tycoon bills that people can steal from you before you even have a chance to spend them

#

seems kinda messed up

white turret
worn pewter
white turret
worn pewter
#

As I stated, it is alt accounts, without proof of the main account what do you think they can do?

white turret
vale yoke
#

We're such a fun bunch, eh?

#

I love us

normal nacelle
vale yoke
#

I had to save that because just reading it in a John LeFontaine voice is amazing.

tardy night
#

Before we trigger some mods, that's the game released in China

vale yoke
#

Ugh why don't I do voice broadcasts... Oh yeah, I'm shrill

tardy night
#

Probably gonna be some dumb regulation like providing your real name and your SSN equivalent in registration to play. Was a rule for their other Chinese games.

thorny hornet
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hmm.... give my ssn to the ccp? sounds like a smart idea

vale yoke
#

What could go wrong?

tardy night
#

Chinese couldn't login without it back when it was enacted. Might have changed now

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Was around '20 or so.

vale yoke
#

Pretty sure it's still a thing

normal nacelle
#

Yeah it is had someone show me on another game few months ago.. you need to identify yourself

thorny hornet
#

it will probably require your biometric data too... as well as your firstborn child

vale yoke
#

I mean, if they really want him... But... They're gonna give him back.

thorny hornet
#

i have a lot of climbing to do to get back to -1

normal nacelle
#

I feel this new diamond deposit thing is missing info...doesnt provide whats the definition of installment is? daily? a week? a month? a year? how many installments?

vale yoke
#

Interesting you mention that, Kim

tardy night
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They using us to test out their virtual currency theories before they implement them in the p2e games

vale yoke
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Ew.

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On that note, I feel the need to shower. Again.

magic anchor
tardy night
normal nacelle
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Oh thanks..I didn't even see that

vale yoke
#

Same but hey cool

tardy night
#

It's basically 1.5 pack value. Buy one get half free

vale yoke
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clear throat
Meh.
That is all

stable cosmos
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300k can't fit in a state properly. Refuse to believe any of that

tardy night
#

its why those bots fill new states up. its the game devs driving their own game down

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artificial inflation of activity while real marketing efforts are put into other newer games.

stable cosmos
#

Figures

tardy night
#

and you'll see new states all having less than 200 real peeps between the old folks who jump around only to kill time and the game devs who push fake numbers.

stable cosmos
#

The fake numbers get more obvious as you spend time in this game. It starts out looking like theres a ton, even without the bots. But as you play its all alts and people that know each other directly or indirectly

tardy night
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cuz reviewing the app needs those bots pushing an account down somewhere.

harsh owl
#

Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but trucks.

If people are raiding you and getting the best of your rewards, but you don't have the power to successful raid someone else who has the same type of rewards that were taken from you, what exactly is the motivation to do this?

olive sluice
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to add... the possibility to raid your teammates in state or even alliance is another effective way to decimate the player base

harsh owl
#

I saw this additional complaint yesterday. What is the point of assigning a march if your behemoths aren't there? Is this a bug or intentional?

tardy night
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the event is best played with the alliance itself, which is the sole reason you could want a player to post the coords of their own trucks to their alliance. Let them raid your trucks, you raid theirs.

harsh owl
#

NVM on the last question. He hit one of the trucks that had a march without a Behemoth

tardy night
harsh owl
harsh owl
tardy night
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well there's 4 trucks to send out and 2 raids per truck with 4 raids allowed per day so it wouldn't be 1:1 exchanges ever.

#

but ultimately I want my fs, behemoth mats etc going to a smaller hq within my alliance if possible, we have asked for such exchanges forever.

#

if they are hitting you without an agreement to do so, thats probably something to mesh out with the person involved, overall I see this event allowing freedom of choice to players on how they conduct the exchanges.

olive sluice
#

All my trucks from more than one account arrived safely so far.. not that I think it will stay like this, but there's a chance. And we are a quite active state.

thorny hornet
harsh owl
# tardy night if they are hitting you without an agreement to do so, thats probably something ...

I reached out to them to start a discussion after it was raided because this should be discussed and agreed upon between alliance members and the alliance as a whole. I agree there 100%.

Regarding RSS, yes, but again, I'd want my RSS in any situation, not just Trucks, to go to a player that is going to help the alliance, not a solo player who brings zero value because they don't participate in any events, never joining others rallies etc.

harsh owl
stable cosmos
#

There is extremely little to recommend the truck event. It exists. Its not compulsory. Its not very good. If your alliance isn't set for shared raiding, don't play it. Or just accept you'll get raided and run with the dinky rewards

harsh owl
#

I've reached out to an R4 to see if we've had a discussion about how to play Trucks and I just missed it (I'm in our DC like sunshine) and if not, should we.

In the meantime, I'll just skip it on my alt and deal with the red dot. The rewards aren't worth it, and certainly not worth getting too worked up over

proud dagger
#

Send out your trucks, hit 4 trucks, forget about the entire thing for 24hrs.

harsh owl
#

Thx, Lyndi. For the most part, that's what I've done on my main.

worldly sable
#

So now we have a chance to get 0 cash and waste rolls 😂

#

Why not remove people if they can’t be robbed anymore

tardy night
#

Are people being fr, notifications turned on to improve performance of app? What wizardry is being done in app?

harsh owl
#

I was just as surprised

tardy night
#

If it's not utter nonsense, this is garbage tier implementation to push notifs. They will now damage devices to push sales?

misty pewter
worldly sable
harsh owl
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You gotta respect solutioning that blatantly introduces another problem or several, in order to fix one. The most surprising thing was the mod said it worked for them (hence why I asked for evidence) but then the player who asked said it fixed their problem.

I played the account on my phone close to 2+ hours without a crash or performance issue. The settlement is in an alliance that is just farms with no premium HQs, auras, sentinels, or guardians, but guess what?

As soon as I found VIPs hive, the game crashed.

I was told by a GM this issue will be fixed in 1.21.40. We'll see...

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Of note, the GM never suggested turning on notifications as a fix to performance or crash issues

rocky otter
#

You took our all food for chief event. You are absolutely the suxiest devs in the world. You don’t deserve to gain that much money

#

Eff you all mfs

boreal gate
#

Worst is you hit them and get like 10-20 bills and when they hit you they get like 300+ bills

thorny plume
#

So something is changed.

This market is so rigid its like they dont want us using it

#

It certainly needs some more freedom

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Like 5 percent commision
You have to spend a certain bit or do tasks to get sss so you can trade for higher values
Maximum 9 slots
Set price ranged ( and to be fair, the developers had ZERO clue about what things are worth to players)
30 day cooldown

Its so rigid and stupid 🤬

#

Oh and max 5 trades per gear

#

This is the opposite of a free market

wide wraith
#

whats the actual point of most of these crappy so-called green odyssey there is nothing green about any of these events, just crap that costs a lot of real money

humble spear
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I don't know if other states have experienced it, but here we are running out of governor credits, currently we can only activate state buffs every other week, because not as much is coming in as is required to be issued for them. Is it not possible to obtain credits from other sources, or to increase their number in the current tasks?

viscid ore
#

What problems did you have leaving these materials?? Is it possible that you should always penalize players instead of helping them and trying to keep them in the game??

wide wraith
humble spear
wide wraith
#

the mess of the game caused by the Devs and game team. The lack of game knowledge from any paid member of staff and the crap events all add to people leaving but the Devs dont care

#

they cant even be bothered to acknowledge when an email is sent to them 24 hours after i sent one in, not even an acknowledgement they received it

stable cosmos
pallid willow
#

I think they want us to finish our exploration bread 🥖 so that we can’t complete the race thing either anymore on the events and things like these 🙄😑

rocky otter
tame oxide
#

Why did they do that? They never recycled for this event 🙁

wide wraith
#

its probably because people were complaining they had too much last time the event was ran

stable cosmos
#

Oh they listen to THAT complaint and not the thousands of others? More likely to be greed

stable cosmos
#

More time spent in game earning currency means more chance to spend

pearl cedar
wide wraith
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whats the point of actually doing the event anyway, its junk with useless rewards

stable cosmos
#

Quieter states are a problem caused by the devs making people leave as they pressure people out of the game

pearl cedar
stable cosmos
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And not providing any mechanism that really works around shifting people organically

wide wraith
#

well they cant have people beating their favourites now can they

spark kindle
#

We were once in the same position in my old state, not fun

austere spoke
#

I can quit in peace now

upper cargo
#

Good morning everybody Hugssss CoffeeSip

pearl cedar
#

Good morning ashen bearhug

wide wraith
#

wish the Devs would quit, and take the management with them after all they are the ones ruining the game

harsh owl
pearl cedar
unreal lichen
harsh owl
wide wraith
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you would think that the CMs would do something or at least say something considering the numbers of people who say they are going to quit the game, simple answer it dont buy anything, ignore what are obviously "fixed" events like DD and just do the basics like chatting to friends

unreal lichen
wide wraith
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then just stop why wait for the end of anything, after all if your leaving what does it matter

misty pewter
unreal lichen
forest kiln
#

Wow... I can cook 1 dish per day now, thanks to developers "genius & generosity" 🤣

wide wraith
unreal lichen
cursive vessel
#

I noticed that too this morning. They've never recycled it before 😅

harsh owl
wide wraith
#

@feral sinew whats the excuse for removing stuff for useless rss, what with the auto gather etc, who needs more

harsh owl
#

It's really not complicated

somber gust
harsh owl
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Ah, ha lol. Fair enough Ada. Fair enough 😅

humble spear
forest kiln
#

But I thought merging helps... but looks like for some states it's useless

cursive vessel
#

Merge helped for one state I'm in, didn't help for the other. Think it depends on who gets merged with who and how well they get along to be honest

somber gust
# humble spear We are the TOP alliance and we even skip KE, our state rules prohibit us from at...

As i said. no idea if you are on one of these states. but there are quite a few, where the top alliance is doing a total dictorship. Greed on events, and holding down everyone else. And making a dead state out of it. And in this case, they will run out of gov credits. Just one alliance cannot get enough credits for it.
Some allianced notice the problem too late, when the state is already dead. some never learn it, and go on with the destructive path.
KE was stopped on our state as well. When the Top player noticed, that they only make player quit with it. Even this inside is coming too late for the state...

wide wraith
humble spear
forest kiln
wide wraith
#

we have a rotating governorship but really its the R5s who rule the state by majority rule

humble spear
#

Yeah same here, we are rotating governorship too

forest kiln
wide wraith
#

what is it with this hiding pass junk in events now, just seen the astral wheel one

wide wraith
fierce grail
#

Daylight robbery

thorny plume
wide wraith
#

the problem does lay with all the paid FP staff from the management down to the CMs

somber gust
# thorny plume Thats a weird assumption, my state thrives. Its a great state and mostly everyon...

People quit because you ran out of credits? Or you ran out of credits because people quit? 😁 Mostly it is the second reason.
.
Player quit. this is always happening.
Just the speed, in which this is happening, is affected by a few factors.
One factor is the game and devs that make player quit (bad events, bad rewards, ...). Right now, the speed of quitting from this higher.
But one factor is also the attitude and behavior on the state. For example doing the KE will for sure make the state faster empty than not doing it.
And one factor is also the behavior of the top alliance. A greedy one, that is not sharing and burning other player for fun will for sure go down way faster than a state that even help the weak and cassual alliances.
For example Bunker sharing over taking all. Might not be much, but it does affect the state.

zealous plover
#

My state also have credit issues and we’re very much active so?

mighty gorge
#

Waking up, to notice all your chef materials have been turned into tomatoes 🤦‍♂️ 🙄 is this just another deliberate attempt to p* off the community/players.

#

I'm convinced now its like they are just sat around thinking up crap to annoy us

normal peak
tardy night
#

Or the gov is spending everything for 200 bio?

zealous plover
tardy night
#

Those you'll recover pretty quickly.

zealous plover
#

That was how we lost all gov credits

tardy night
#

Where are you guys in the transfer window among the group standings?

#

Rankings I mean

stable cosmos
#

Merging doesn't work well because spenders, big or otherwise, tend to stay. So you have events where theres criss state and those 10 spenders (for arguments sake) face off. Then merges happen, between 3 states, so now there are 6 spenders in one state rather than 2. But cross state is still 5. So now you have 30 spenders facing off. State merge is often the leading cause of state transfer

peak apex
raw breach
mighty gorge
austere spoke
peak apex
devout dirge
#

game freezes when login @peak apex

austere spoke
wide wraith
#

to be honest who cares about the old chef materials, it just means it takes a few more days is all, its not like the daily amount doesnt cover most requirements. I still blame those who complained last time that they had to much chef materials last time

stable cosmos
mighty gorge
# devout dirge game freezes when login <@835891695031025694>

I get this when there is a lack of resources to load the game, typically within emulators. the "loading resources" message seems to be more prevalent on low peforming devices for some reason. I'm not saying its the issue, but this same thing has popped up for 2-3 people in the last week.

stable cosmos
#

Thats device settings notifications. Not the in game ones

peak apex
stable cosmos
#

Its still dumb. The game bricking cos of notifications is ridiculous

devout dirge
stable cosmos
#

Wurgh duels. Missing this one 2am not conducive to me playing anything

peak apex
stable cosmos
peak apex
mighty gorge
stable cosmos
#

Weird and sloppy sums up the devs very well

mighty gorge
#

A lot of apps require permissions to function, but the notification service. Thats just..um, well. Stupid.

wide wraith
#

the Devs/CMs should have communicated that the old chef materials were going to be recycled before the rerelease of the crappy chef event. Another example of the terrible communication by "paid" funplus staff

stable cosmos
#

It wouldn't have made a difference on that front. Would have preferred som brand of choose your prize crate to MORE rss

wide wraith
#

it just means that they are planning something that needs more rss

stable cosmos
#

P15

wide wraith
#

on the non active CMs are running out because they are hit so many times

stable cosmos
#

And probably t13 soon after. Wouldn't be shocked, we've had t12 for a while now

mighty gorge
#

Gen18 Heroes, TA Gen3?, Plasma Trucks?

peak apex
stable cosmos
#

No more ta. Want them to throw that out as a failed experiment like they did with troll squad

normal peak
#

Guess quick gather from Migo doesn’t count for those stupid Chef things

tardy night
#

Oh hey we wanna push notifs so more folks login but we wanna deny we had anything to do with it affecting performance!

upper cargo
normal peak
#

Not on mine

upper cargo
#

Could you maybe try to restart the game, if you didn't already, to see if it is shown after the Restart of the app?

wide wraith
#

it did on mine

upper cargo
#

Hey future AA_Pika_Wave

normal peak
#

Nope didn’t work

#

Not worried..not doing it anyway

upper cargo
#

Hmmm, that is very strange though.
It should add to the Chief Chef task

normal peak
#

It didn’t..wasteful event anyway

#

Just another one added to the list

harsh owl
#

Hey Ashen HiWave

upper cargo
#

How are you doing? hug

rapid marlin
#

Hey ashen...
Since u already here... is there any possibility for me to remove that channel in screenshot? I don't have permission to read it anyway and having these white dots is annoying my inner monk 😆

harsh owl
#

Ashen, that worked for me but I only did it to test if it would. I needed the wood (amongst other RSS) for training. No plans to play Chief Chef KirbyPopcorn

peak apex
peak apex
sly fossil
#

Are there any feedbacks yet on previous food dissapearing from Chief Chef event? I had like 20K if not more. now zero

thorny plume
# somber gust People quit because you ran out of credits? Or you ran out of credits because pe...

Im grateful KoP has lead our state towards a sane middle ground where bunkers are kind of shared or we have some rules of conduct. Same with gov and everything else. So they the good guys!

But people have still quit sadly and we ran out of credits once.

In old state before merge we had war since week 2, was also a very active state.

I just think developers is whats making people quit mostly. Their stingy greedy ways just gets worse and worse

sly fossil
#

I filled a support ticket, again. Lets see what bs they try to sell me now lol

peak apex
tardy night
rapid marlin
#

I saw and followed instruction already, thank u BlushFrog

thorny plume
peak apex
mighty gorge
normal peak
sly fossil
peak apex
mighty gorge
sly fossil
#

lol, too true

tardy night
upper cargo
stable cosmos
sly fossil
#

No, they ignored me completely. So I am not really playing anymore, just here to none stop pointing out their mistakes and overwhelming support special menu with spam bugs. Just like devs do to us.

mighty gorge
#

and I need 🥓 and ☕ and ⚕️

sly fossil
mighty gorge
#

And morning Ash

upper cargo
#

Morning Cerb CoffeePeepo_RIZIN

steep yacht
sly fossil
tardy night
stable cosmos
#

They steal paid for stuff on the regular

sly fossil
#

I mean ingame 'speciuhhhl support'

sly fossil
tardy night
#

🤔

#

I...think you might need to read the Terms again. They don't care if your device burns away your home

#

I'm asking for the community not for these dolts.

#

They already had you sign off on their liabilities for any device damage.

sly fossil
#

I know, this is why I don't play for real anymore and only file bugs none stop

steep yacht
#

Honestly if you don't see it at this point I don't know what to say, whalles will always keep whaling, f2p will always keep f2ping, just don't be one of those silly f2p who jumps ship to whale and bankrupting your household.

sly fossil
#

I started as whale, now Im f2p. Better.

steep yacht
#

This game has every single dark pattern I've ever read or watched about in it.

#

think your UI is a bug when you tap somewhere but get thrown somewhere else altogether, not a bug, just hoping for a pre-purchased tap.

sly fossil
#

wait, lets switch to phone mode again as its time for rain of riches. As that garantees 100 pacages at least when tapdancing on the screen

steep yacht
#

why.... just why, are events tied to certain times, (especially something like RoR) that has no server impact. Again with annihilation, no reason for times other then to force you to play when they want you to play.

sly fossil
#

Oh I wish they were tied to times so u can plan. But the events that matter, like RR and AD are praying you get your desired times. And if not, half the alliance wont play.

steep yacht
#

my past few koth matches I couldn't even play because I'm forced to pick 4 time slots, and it always chooses the last of my choices... the one I know I can't play

normal peak
#

Never picks the first preferred time

tardy night
#

They got somewhere around 20-25 running rn. And I definitely know lag occurs literally simultaneously across 3 of them 🤔

mighty gorge
#

I think the terminology is wrong; in my view the position around placing events at fixed times that are not group based events, or constitute a need to focus in on specific matching groups don't need a window to play in.

Dino, RoR are such examples because they are individually targeted. So if I come home from work, get up, do it in my lunch break or on a bus at 2am, it shouldn't matter and shouldn't be forced to make myself availble in those time slots. Even to a degree Survival Royal

steep yacht
#

and a.a, again no server impact to have it open 24/7

primal steppe
#

Thought this was fixed, lost over 2k bill. Such BS!!!

sly fossil
rapid marlin
#

Well... their fix has been - not more than 10 attacks. They said nothing abt u can't lose all in those 10 attacks 😆

steep yacht
#

do yourself a favor, ignore events, they roll them out now like they're hot candy

sly fossil
#

every event they add has at least 2 major bugs in them and a random small ones. Is it smart to invest your money in this game still?

steep yacht
#

they haven't fixed any bugs since they did the bug fixing crap talks back in the day. This game is a memory leaking mess😂 Don't believe me swap between multiple accounts without force closing and just watch the memory accumulate

sly fossil
harsh owl
sly fossil
harsh owl
neon pelican
#

I can't unresonate even though I had no marches out, maybe because of doomsday express. But if I remember correctly I was able to do it yesterday, can't now apparently. Any trick?

cloud ridge
raw light
#

Stupid event , even with cards protection you lose bills and even more than the cost of that cards ChickCry

stable cosmos
#

Isn't often they make an event where the people that pay for more lose out to a bunch of f2p.

pallid willow
#

It’s dumb, everyone losses wether they pay or not

#

Dumb idea overall

#

I bet they took it from a whale🤣 thinking omg such great idea 4 sure

midnight aspen
little marsh
#

Why does the upgrade cost for the buildings jump so much after level 2? Was like 250 then up to 1.5k 🤣🤣 ridiculous

harsh owl
vernal moss
stable cosmos
#

It'll be worse

#

They'll optimise it. We all know what that means

harsh owl
#

The odds are similar to the chance odds on crates and specific rewards. It's really a coin toss with FP, but in all likelihood it will be worse

little marsh
#

Is there any point though? Will they change it?

stable cosmos
#

Flip a coin. If it lands on its edge They'll change to for the better. Heads or tails its worse

raw light
#

Even for whales is not possible to go at 120 building up shocked_froggie

stable cosmos
#

As usual i hope f---plus loses money

raw light
#

You get constantly robbed and building need constant refix

#

That so stupid wanted changed thing was worked well before

#

Just bring the thing at laps turn

vale yoke
#

Oh, I'm no longer light yellow. We have new colors.

harsh owl
mighty gorge
normal peak
#

What does this mean? I have zero marches out and can’t u resonate just this hero

warped ruin
#

truck out?

normal peak
#

Hmm maybe

midnight aspen
#

very likely the answer is truck

harsh owl
#

Wait till they come home and you should be good

normal peak
#

Let me see..because I was able to swap other resonates