📋︱feedback-discussion

[short cosmos]

Assert thine dominance over the bots before they gain sentience

[flint chasm]

[thorn axle]

It just happened to me 3 times in a row

I give up

[short cosmos]

Surely Funplus/KingsGroup has made enough revenue to put F2P strict servers on the map, with no shop, only skill and effort on the table... eh?... eh...??

I'll die on this hill, this could be a great game without microtransactions in my face like a xxx virus

[flint chasm]

that would be my chance to burn you all

[winter canyon]

That would be great

[short cosmos]

T1s would actually be cared about 💀

[winter canyon]

As f2p i'm only getting bullied in events so far

Ranked 506 last migo

I cried

[short cosmos]

The foundation and style of SoS is unique and honestly very entertaining and enjoyable, but it's just so easily ruined by people willing to go into debt just to be toxic

I play games to disassociate from irl not suffer more 😂

It'd be interesting to see how everyone would do in the game without the ability to buy power. To actually strategies and put effort into your builds, it'd be an actual equal playing field and the consequences would hit that much harder without the ability to just buy troops back and fast heal packs

It'll never happen, it's a dream, people don't just give up on a cash cow concept but it's nice to think about

[flint chasm]

I like that it would then come down to the time, thought an effort you put in

[short cosmos]

I miss early SoS because it felt like everyone stood a chance even with the P2P they did have it wasnt game breaking entirely and effort mattered

[thorny hornet]

back before behemoths and unlimited, you could mock the toxic spenders if you had enough troops. the bonuses their max chief gear gave them were not enough to burn you in 1 hit like they can now

[flint chasm]

nothing wrong with dreaming || Now why did my brain suddenly gave my the song Dreams are my reality ||

[winter canyon]

I dream too much🪄

[short cosmos]

Every new add on just feels like a Shiney new toy for the rich kids and a dirt mound kick in the face to everyone else

Always something new to buy always a new upgrade to make the last obsolete, if you don't spend you're SOL

[winter canyon]

It still takes more than 1-2 hits but they can still totally BBQ your HQ

[short cosmos]

The few crumbs they gave f2p players got nerfed it feels even more impossible

Lucky card event got messed with hard, the statistics are gone and we get even less tickets now

[thorny hornet]

see dm

[short cosmos]

338 tickets saved up and used didn't flip a plasma reward once

[flint chasm]

weirdly, I was very lucky today in lucky cards... hasn't happened in ages.

oh, now that i see this, I want to take that back... guess i snatched it all 😛

[thorny hornet]

338 is more than enough tickets to clear the board

[winter canyon]

But can someone help with this?

[thorny hornet]

did you choose plasma as your reward?

[short cosmos]

I refresh when the ticket cost hits double digits because you lose more than you gain shredding them

[winter canyon]

Please don't make us waste chips

[thorny hornet]

the reason to hoard tickets is to guarantee yourself the jackppot

if you reset before the jackpot, why hoard?

[flint chasm]

that's pretty much how mine looked as well

[short cosmos]

Yeah but if I spend over 100 on 1 60 plasma reward then I have even less odds going forward

[thorny hornet]

you spent 338 and got nothing though

[short cosmos]

I hoard for the unlock packs more than anything

Yeah that was new in my defense 😂

[tidal apex]

You are highly unlikely to get top reward in first cards, it is like 2% 🤣

[winter canyon]

I took a 2 week long break and when I slowly came back the game just got worse💢

[flint chasm]

my math is definitely not good enough for calculating the odds

[winter canyon]

like this chip event is just fkn ridiculous

[tidal apex]

I am always saving for max clear and more often than not plasma is in either last or second last spot

[short cosmos]

I'm trash at math so I'm probably doing it wrong but idk to me it makes more sense to refresh for 4 tickets and try my luck than to press on into 12-24-36 ticket cost for each flip after trying to get 60 plasma

[thorny hornet]

the place i see actual cheating is in the surprise task in Operation Festival. Amazing how many people can finish the task in 2 hundredths of a second. or 2 seconds as i re-read it

[winter canyon]

i'm so fkn mad right now... wasted 40 chips and got the worst rewards

[short cosmos]

Now that the odds are even worse tho I'm just saving the full 750 whatever it is and blasting it

Event used to be decent now its like everything else, need money for it to really do anything

[tidal apex]

You are doing it wrong... That tactic with refreshing is about trying to get plasma at x2,x3 cards, if you are refreshing simply due to not getting plasma on first 2-3 pulls then you will never get more than someoene doing full clears

[short cosmos]

I get x2/x3 then immediately pull resources

There's no double odds when im refreshing

[thorny hornet]

clear the board once for guaranteed jackpot. jackpots seem easier to get in next board after gettingit once

i got 3 jackpots last time starting with 140 tickets

but i was going for biocaps, so it might be easier to get jackpots with different prizes

[winter canyon]

Lucky card is random

[short cosmos]

Yeah sometimes I will still push it and try but by then 1 pull is over 30 tickets and I'd rather just try again cause atp I'm spending it all for very little plasma

[thorny hornet]

just not very random. it is extremely rare that i hit the jackpot on the first board before the final card

[tidal apex]

In this game you never know, it is lying everywhere about odds, plenty evidence about that available. It is possible that game just decide your main reward will be in last spot no matter what you do and how many times you reset the board 🤣

[short cosmos]

Monkey brain overtaking I guess 30 ticket pull vs 5 for a refresh and first pull try sounds nicer 😅

This game is slowly squeezing the hope from my spirit the more it loses its roots to greed

Only reason I still play is my alliance

[thorny hornet]

i would love to see the actual code they use for some things. have you ever noticed in throwdown when a full refresh happens how many of the same task appear? seems to me like they are not properly reseeding the RNG they use to determine which task appears for each refresh

[tidal apex]

What rng 🤣 tasks are based on people in alliance, be in spenders alliance and half of the task will be bundles

Gotta somehow encourage them to buy more :p

[flint chasm]

sorry, had to run and try to rescue dinner thanks for the fun discussion today! I'll be keeping my fingers crossed you can beat the odds eventually 😬 have a great night

[distant gull]

Stupid game

[short cosmos]

The way I'd throw my phone into oblivion 💀

That's why I don't even bother with those, I don't have the restraint to deal with how unrealistic it is to achieve any of them

[thorny hornet]

demolition can be done fast, but talent swap or the board change one? some are clearly using some type of automation to get those tasks done so fast

[distant gull]

I throw my phone only RR in same time in 1 phone its stupidity enough having many accounts for RR

[short cosmos]

I'm sorry I read this 10x and I'm not grasping it, what..? 😂

Dual playing RR is frustrating you mean?

[winter canyon]

Yep

Some people resetting talents 10 times in 5 seconds

Same thing with edit achievement badge task

[pallid willow]

wE pLaY wiTh FriEnDs fOr the FuN 🤪🤪 omg sooooo fun to sit afk like low budget bot for 10 minutes what an excitement 🙂

REMOVE PREMADES FROM REGULAR POW

[thorny hornet]

don't play for fun, play for stars😜

[pallid willow]

They always say fOr fUn

[worldly sable]

Nah, they just like to chase the LB there because they don't rank anywhere else

[winter canyon]

Where's the fun if you keep losing

[worldly sable]

I don't care what anyone says, playing 300 games of PoW doesn't make you a winner

for 15 gold frags even

[thorny hornet]

the least fun event for me is azurtane, but i have been making it more fun for myself lately. after i get my 150k points for max gather rewards, i port near the center and knock whales out of the level 3 mines with my main march attacking their mines with no behemoths

[worldly sable]

and no, it's not fun waiting 5-10 min to get into a game to crush everyone

[thorny hornet]

conan would disagree. he says that what is best in life is "to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women"

i would post the gif but i am unable to post gifs here

[winter canyon]

Event of bullies

[winter canyon]

why would you wait 10 minutes

[pallid willow]

The only good thing about gens skip you can kick a big guy second or third march with your main😂 sometimes

[winter canyon]

nah

they are just too strong

[worldly sable]

If you play on a team of whales and there's no one close, it waits 5-10 min than auto matches you to a random team

[pallid willow]

I mean big guys, not super whales tho

[winter canyon]

Define big guys

[pallid willow]

Why do you like to argue all the time tho😭 Big guy like spend on 3 heroes only

[worldly sable]

girthy gentlemen

[winter canyon]

lmao

[thorny hornet]

i have big hands... just sayin'....

[winter canyon]

Because first time I got upset at this game this month

[thorny hornet]

you should see the size of my gloves

[winter canyon]

How tall are you

[thorny hornet]

that's a little personal😜

[winter canyon]

Really?

Ok was just joking... you don't have to say it

[thorny hornet]

i am 4' 24''

[normal peak]

He is a fire hydrant

[boreal gate]

how do i remove auto gathering marches but still keep auto training?!

how to remove those rss selections?

[normal peak]

Ooooo look at the big man rubbing in his svip2 status

[boreal gate]

naaaaah broooo

those auto gathering hitting other player's tiles

🤣

[normal peak]

So that’s kills for you

[boreal gate]

but i want the auto training

my state is already dead i dont want to kill the little left ya know

😂

[normal peak]

True

[boreal gate]

been trying to remove those but in vain

[winter canyon]

Hitting people with autogather? LMAO

[crude stratus]

That’s what we gave as feedback from ptr. But we all know how they listen

[boreal gate]

Paul! how do i remove the selected rss?!😂

[crude stratus]

You can’t remove them once they are selected. You can only switch automation off, but then you don’t have auto training

[distant gull]

I hate devs 😡

RIP Sentinel OMG

[boreal gate]

that is so dumb really ugh those dev pfff

[crude stratus]

You expected something else after hilarious 3 days on ptr?

[winter canyon]

If it makes you feel any better...

[normal peak]

Throw more money at it..I’m sure you will get one

[winter canyon]

Wasted 40 fkn chips for this sh**

[crude stratus]

Luckily I got the sentinel last year. Just collected 20 red gems for the skin this time

[unreal lichen]

It was behemoth crate? I have to admit that I never saw such an open field so far. With so many different options to get in last try

[boreal gate]

yeah lmao you used a lot of chips on that one

[normal peak]

I just want to know if this junk will be in collections

Since same rewards as last time

[winter canyon]

It used to be possible to clear a board with 30 chips

Now I waste 40 chips and get sh**

[crude stratus]

I‘m pretty sure it will be soon in collection

[winter canyon]

I don't know why they are ruining another event

[crude stratus]

Because they are good in ruining things

[empty oxide]

Oh my 🤯

I was feeling I needed a lot of these things to clear it, thought it was just in my head

[nova jetty]

Is there anyway to lessen the damage Donatello does to my troops? My hospital gets slammed so much more each time I use him then Ada!

[crude stratus]

Better ask Monkey. He’s the pro in these things

[nova jetty]

I will thanks !

[distant gull]

This eat thousand of speedups 😡

46k minutes speedups gone in second

[winter canyon]

You're getting 9 points for this?

[warped ruin]

you have to consider whether it's worth it, unless you're a whale 😄

[winter canyon]

We're getting 1

[warped ruin]

feedback: the TMNT collaboration so good that there is nothing I hate more than turtles and nickelodeon

[long pendant]

Hi some the new turtle heroes are really nice have you unlocked all?

[warped ruin]

im f2p, so this just fills up my hospital,.. the other one is lvl1 😄

I've already spent about 8 hours on shell shock and I only have the 23rd reward.. so i hate the turtles, and nickelodeon, edit: and funplus 😄

[short cosmos]

Hold up you guys have auto gathering?

Were people trolling?

[long pendant]

Only fully maxed heroes should be used in your A march when you upgrade your turtle heroes skills i think they will give better result with less troops loss

[long pendant]

Are you referring to instant gathering skill?

[thorny hornet]

svip auto gathering

[thorny hornet]

the higher the resonating level of your turtles, the greater the amount of wounded

[warped ruin]

maxed heroes? its a a dream for a f2p..LOL

[last hazel]

Add to the topic, Svip auto gathering is risky too, because it can send your marches to already occupied tiles, and you might attack someone. Which might create drama in state

[forest kiln]

Like there are a lot of choices in the tasks... Spend, spend aaaand... spend. Only free tasks are infected fiends, since you return stamina with defeat and maybe trails, since most of us have a lot of bread after 3-4 years😒

[long pendant]

Thank you for such a wonderful tip

[long pendant]

Oh i haven’t noticed that tom that’s a good advise i am not using my turtle heroes currently instead i am using hank but i will keep that in mind thank you so much

[short cosmos]

So how much money do people have to spend to auto gather?

Whales in our state talk about having personal butlers on discord and now auto gathering Jesus christ 😂

Why even play at that point I don't get this crap 😭

[warped ruin]

the price of a bigger house 😄

[short cosmos]

Hire me I'm cheaper 😂

[warped ruin]

and some sport car 😄

we also have a personal assistant, any MOD will gladly help you in DM, they are very kind 😄 😉

[short cosmos]

If I had the money some throw away on this game I would not play this game 😂

So SVIP is after VIP12 or how does this pyramid scheme work? I'm so confused.

[thorn axle]

After vip15 it’s svip

Auto gathering starts at vip14

[warped ruin]

I'd still have enough to be a medium spender, but I'm not throwing myself into a bottomless well just to make some function stronger for a few days until the next one comes along 😄

it's just a game, I'd rather go on vacation or change cars or help my parents 😉

[short cosmos]

VIP12 isn't the highest anymore?

Of course it's not 😮‍💨

I think when my state finally dies I'm finally going to be done 😂 it only gets worse

[thorn axle]

I made a typo my bad, the auto gathering starts at vip14

The new vip limits were released a few days ago so still very new

[warped ruin]

for me, the limit is as long as the big guys don't kick me out of the rally with the purple monkey, I'll play until then 😄

[winter canyon]

Not gonna happen. Purple brain would be good enough, but even that is REALLY difficult

[warped ruin]

i have red charos, maddie, and wolfe, but not nearly max their skill I need a lot of Syringe, and since there are new heroes every two and a half months i don't burn all my resources to get them from the pearl shop 😉

[winter canyon]

By red hero do you mean purple brain?

[warped ruin]

yes

when it is ready, it will be red

[winter canyon]

How long did it take you to get 3 heroes to purple brain?

Around 12-18 months?

[warped ruin]

6-7 months. When carlos was out, the wheel of fortune still gave fragments, after that i got a few from the colosseum event, and that was enough

I got maddie, and wolfe fragments from the new wheel of fortune chests, but they were fine anyway, because they are 3 years old heroes

[thorn axle]

From rays it pretty difficult to max heros alone from that since they give less hero capsules now

[warped ruin]

Yes! 3-7 total excluding chests.. so I won't have any more red heroes 😄

This has become a very complex game, you have to be very smart with resources as f2p, you have to consider what is worth it and what is not. Today, for example, I didn't do today's task challenges at all in the operation festival, because it's not worth wasting so many resources for a few pearls. 😄

[winter canyon]

That you have 3 purple brain heroes is really impressive!

It took me like 5 months and 1 million biocaps to get 1 hero purple brain😅

[last hazel]

You can log it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[thorny hornet]

are you buying out all of the completion capsules in the various stores, and are you buying value vouchers with biocaps, and doing 120 spins in Rays? i am f2p, i only have 2 red so far but closing in on 3rd red(red=full purple) and a bunch others to start of purple.

i haven't done any syringe yet. the only hero i have with all level 9 skills is maddie, because i had thousands of frags of her from years of playing

[short cosmos]

Oh god wth is that

Brain heroes? I need to stop coming here 💀

[thorny hornet]

that is a red hero. all purple brain finished

those are limitless heroes.

[short cosmos]

Un..unlimited?

[warped ruin]

limitless heroes

[thorny hornet]

yeah, limitless, i totally didn't edit my mistake

[short cosmos]

I'm slowly realizing my states have died off before ever reaching half of this 💀

[warped ruin]

quit the game if you don't have friends yet and you're not addicted 😄

[short cosmos]

I'm unfortunately an R5 and care about everyone very much 😂 this is my longest running state and it's only 7 months in

And about to state merge

Cause we dead

[unreal lichen]

Unlimited heroes will start with Gen 7 after approximately 1 year and 3 months if no generations get skipped

[short cosmos]

Ooooooooof

[thorny hornet]

if you don't have limitless yet, there is a whole bunch of stuff coming your way

[short cosmos]

Don't say that there's already way too much going on 😂

[warped ruin]

after the merge there was such a war with us that many people quit permanently..

[thorny hornet]

you can see tempest arms located there, and hero profile has stuff in it for improving power as well

[short cosmos]

Yeah state merges were the end of pretty much all of my barely hanging on states

I took like a year long break after hitting the 500s states and came back to 900s, another break and 1240s the first real try I've put in in awhile, so much of my knowledge is outdated and the more I learn the more it's just a completely different game that I don't think I can handle 😂

[winter canyon]

What state are you in?

[warped ruin]

did you seriously restart a game like this twice? this is just about milking the players and giving less and less to f2p 😄 😄

[short cosmos]

Twice.. aha..yeah.. twice.. for sure only twice..

[thorny hornet]

539

[winter canyon]

Gen skip?

Or older state?

[short cosmos]

My very first state was 108, I always quit and come back to sate my ADHD iPad kid tendencies 😂

[thorny hornet]

we got first gen skipped

[short cosmos]

My state went right to Gen 4 heroes we didn't even get Roxy but they gave us her statue 💀

[winter canyon]

As a fellow victim of gen skip, I feel ya😅

Still waiting for my compensation but I guess they just threw us under the bus

[thorny hornet]

well, half skipped. we got story missions for maddie, nikola and lucky, but no hero challenges so no source of completion capsules for them

[pallid willow]

Oh that poor little soul

[short cosmos]

1240 got Red gear a month after 1239 and 1241

[winter canyon]

didnt you also get gen skipped

[thorny hornet]

it only took me about 3 years to max out my chief gear... right when it became just about useless

[short cosmos]

We noticed during SvS they had different gear than us and our max was gold 💀

[pallid willow]

Yup

[winter canyon]

How do ya feel?

[nova jetty]

Do you have them open now ? You may be able to request the pieces now. I know they have been giving them to states who don't have heroes open

[winter canyon]

Red gear not that special. It's just another 100% stats or something😅

Compared to 5K% it's nothing😔

[short cosmos]

Well when you're first starting out that's quite a disadvantage to be stuck with during a war event 😂

Alot of our stuff released backwards

We got the aircrafts like right away

[thorny hornet]

we have hero challenges now. it opened when the 2nd gen limitless started

[white turret]

It’s a common thing. If a state has enough spenders the devs will release stuff faster to appease the big spenders. I’ve heard of similar situations like this very often.

[thorny hornet]

what is with this ranking? my chief gear and hero gear are maxed yet it says there is room for improvement?

[winter canyon]

Hero challenges gives 8+ potions a day... in a year that is 29200 potions

[short cosmos]

Gotta update credit card info obviously

[white turret]

That’s been a thing for as long as I can remember as well lol.

[short cosmos]

POTIONS?

Is this runescape? Did I switch servers?

[winter canyon]

Material for limitless hero

[thorny hornet]

limitless hero items

[short cosmos]

Wth is going on

[white turret]

Your 1240. Don’t worry about it lol. Enjoy the peace and simplicity while it lasts.

[short cosmos]

Simplicity ha

Coworker asked if my phone had a virus when they saw me playing on my lunch break.

[winter canyon]

So 29200 potions can get 6 heroes to purple brain...

[white turret]

Although in 1268 the other state I play in we had people one month into playing who had Angelica/ Selina.

[winter canyon]

Assuming you have the capsules too

[thorny hornet]

2920, you added a 0

[winter canyon]

Silly me🙊

[short cosmos]

Simplicity is dead my state is "new" and next in line for state mergers, too much going on we can't even register for all the events on time

[winter canyon]

And I'm a math teachers daughter lmao

[white turret]

Wtf you guys already have apes?

[thorny hornet]

just from hero challenges it ends up being more when you account for the potions you get for completing each level as well

[short cosmos]

Yeah.

It's actually driving us all up the wall, most of our events are broken and registering for everything at once we have to full time schedule everything like it's a 2nd job

[white turret]

Do you know how old your state is like state age. How many weeks? I’m curious because supposedly apes aren’t supposed to unlock until week 50. I’m also pretty certain there releasing stuff faster in 1272 as well.

[white turret]

Yeah unfortunately as you continue to play it don’t get much better lol

[winter canyon]

Yep

[thorny hornet]

plus the extra potions you get for your weekly rank in hero challenges

[winter canyon]

I have an abundance of potions but no capsules

[nova jetty]

It was 50 weeks in 1010

[thorny hornet]

value vouchers, buy them. the crates you get in rays have capsules too

[short cosmos]

I haven't missed a sign in, so whatever this is in weeks

[thorny hornet]

almost 31 weeks

[nova jetty]

30 give or take?

[short cosmos]

We got behemoths like 2 weeks ago from today

[white turret]

Got it

[winter canyon]

Both? Or just gorilla

[short cosmos]

What do you mean both?

Is behemoth not gorilla?

[thorny hornet]

there is a dino behemoth now as well

[winter canyon]

There's a dinosaur too

[short cosmos]

Wth

I hate it here

😂

[nova jetty]

Yup

[white turret]

Ok wow. So they are rushing features as I thought so. The other issue with this is so for us older states ya know we kinda were able to ease into things… so sure tons of people still quit and we all eventually needed atlest one state merge which I know in 504 they already got there second merge… but whereas new states are kinda just getting thrown into the mess instead of easing into things… which is why new states just die out way faster…

[short cosmos]

To put it in perspective 1240 is basically already a top 5 alliances only state

[winter canyon]

Wut

[short cosmos]

People just couldn't tolerate the content dumping and the whales having such a massive edge over everybody we burnt out quick

[nova jetty]

I agree! When it is a lot at once it becomes overwhelming

[winter canyon]

My state is much older and have more than 5 alliances

[short cosmos]

We're dead from alliances 6 and below, they're either alt alliances or very very proud groups of the same nationality that don't care to merge up but don't have the gas to participate in anything

We're in the next group for state mergers already

[white turret]

I hate people like that. Well I say that but that’s kinda how my alliance is in my older state😂

[nova jetty]

My state is very active .

[short cosmos]

I dont necessarily blame them, the mentality so many have of forcing smaller alliances to merge is only going to make people stubborn and not move or just plain quit

[white turret]

Yep that’s what happens

[winter canyon]

Being in a peaceful and good alliance and state is more important than anything

[short cosmos]

It's basically my alliance, mother Russia and Asia for top 3 and were the only ones who show up for CC and SvS anymore

[thorny hornet]

Soon your behemoths will get skins too. this is what the dinos of whales looks like

[nova jetty]

We need 2 super alliances for svs we have so many who want to play .

[short cosmos]

Honestly if you guys saw our leaderboard you'd be shocked that we're a dead state and not brand new

[thorny hornet]

and gorilla

[short cosmos]

Our alliance BPs are not high across the board

We died very early

Jesus christ

[nova jetty]

Hopefully you will merge soon

[short cosmos]

My alliance is rank 1 with 16B BP, so..

[white turret]

I’m pretty sure the 1200s are next for merges. If I recall correctly 1100s ish was last state merges

[short cosmos]

It's not much at all, we were such a brand new player heavy state that they just quit when all this event stuff hit the fan

[nova jetty]

I think that is correct we merged last merge

[short cosmos]

titanic theme begins to play

[white turret]

Sheesh. That reminds me of the guy in 1200s who was like 1 billion battle power 2 months ago. Lemme go see how strong he is now

[austere spoke]

@woven spire look same name than our ptr alliance 🤣

[short cosmos]

So yeah my official feedback is uh

Devs please chill 😄

[thorny hornet]

i remember those days

[nova jetty]

This feedback has been sent every month since I started here a year ago

[white turret]

Lol

[short cosmos]

So I've never actually had to endure a state merge how bad is it gonna be?

How does the matching work?

[nova jetty]

The towers are probably the worst part

[short cosmos]

We have to fight for territory again?

[nova jetty]

Not sure how the matching is decided

[tardy night]

Ever seen anyone throw darts when they haven't thrown any darts before

[nova jetty]

We had meetings with the other state and hashed it all out before it happened

[winter canyon]

🔂 ➕ 🫵🏼 👐🏼 👉🏼 🚪

[short cosmos]

So we should all just quit now basically cause we are wedged between like 4 Russian super states

[white turret]

Generally speaking it’s between 3 states in total. Sometimes 2 and I’ve also seen extremely dead states do 4 states into one… one state is host the others get ported into this state. You just have to rebuild alliance buildings basically. That’s the just of it.

[short cosmos]

Yeah that's a cap for me

[nova jetty]

We had a pool of eight states , they paired us off

[winter canyon]

My BP higher😅

[short cosmos]

Id rather try to put a red bra on a bull than do this 😂

[thorny hornet]

how long have you been playing?

[white turret]

He was like 300m BP like 2 ish months ago or something

[winter canyon]

2-3 years

[thorny hornet]

he has been playing for about 31 weeks

[tardy night]

Depends what you play for. All mergers don't end up the same.

[untold niche]

hello everyone

[white turret]

Here I can give you guys a comparison of 1268. Here we have maybe 4-5 players with Angelica/ Selina. So you can comprehend just how crazy that dude is.

[short cosmos]

I'm in it for my people and the alliance end of the game everything else just isn't worth it

Losing people every day thanks to the content dumping and pay heavy stuff

[nova jetty]

Me too I stay for the community

[untold niche]

Its been a long day. I am passing out ☕ and 🍩 for all

[nova jetty]

Night

[untold niche]

heyas Glossy Stone

[winter canyon]

Aber er ist ein 🐳

[nova jetty]

[untold niche]

so what's the topic of the day in here?

[white turret]

1268- maybe a couple weeks younger then 1253. Which like I said these players are already pretty crazy and spend a crap ton.

[winter canyon]

Hallo

[nova jetty]

Merges and dead states

[untold niche]

ahh ok that's a large subject from what I have heard

hello Ruitte I hope I got that right

The major complaint is people being stuck on dead servers and cannot join more than 6 up or 6 down on server transfers

[short cosmos]

How come return player rewards don't give chief gear parts anymore?

[mighty gorge]

The lack of quality in the coding in this game always makes me roll my eyes

Upgrade your "lookout tower", click the banner, it selects the lumberyard.

[untold niche]

That I don't know Ghost

and yes Chaos that err sometimes happens

[short cosmos]

Even the wiki says it's supposed to but we're just getting some extra rss packs and a few 5 minute speedups

[untold niche]

either that or the wiki needs to be updated

one of the two

[short cosmos]

Both

😂

[untold niche]

Double the duty

[short cosmos]

I'll do it for tree fiddy

[untold niche]

[tardy night]

If your alliance agrees with that mentality, shouldn't be an issue fitting anywhere. Mergers will have some sausage measurements. Keep a look out for balancing the interests of the alliance vs needs of the merged entity, and you should be fine.

If it's not fine, there's plenty of places you can find to move a flock of peeps to, or wage endless war, which is fun by itself as well. See what the alliance wants if it goes down that route. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[short cosmos]

Exactly 18990.2 bios tyvm

[winter canyon]

Why that number

[untold niche]

I just put in a suggestion about servers and transfers #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[short cosmos]

That's what the tism typed

[untold niche]

Please vote on that thank you

[tardy night]

1126 to 555? Why would you ever want that

[untold niche]

That was just an example

[mighty gorge]

Can you edit it, it looks...

completely wrong

[untold niche]

sure I can edit it

s555 to s1126

[tardy night]

🙄

[untold niche]

that sound better?

[mighty gorge]

OK. you cant go from 555 to 1126

its never going to happen, they are different generations

[untold niche]

I know that but the player wants to do that

[mighty gorge]

So it makes the feedback report invalid

Tell him hes an idiot.

[untold niche]

I can't do that

[mighty gorge]

But I can

[winter canyon]

They have already made people skip generations... so I don't see why that's an issue

[tardy night]

You're pushing a person 2 years ahead...they wanna volunteer to become a farm?

Cuz it's dumb?

[mighty gorge]

No wonder feedback ends up in some random crappy implementation by the devs

[tardy night]

World war 2 already happened, I don't see why world war 3 is an issue...same logic.

[untold niche]

Okay but we sometimes cannot be choosy which suggestions and feedback are given to us

[mighty gorge]

The moderation team should be guiding people that want to place feedback, with constructive criticism over their choice of ideas and words

[mighty gorge]

Nonsense

[winter canyon]

According to dev it won't be an issue lmao

[untold niche]

We try but people have their own ideas

[winter canyon]

I didn't say I support it

[untold niche]

You can down vote it then

That's ok too

[mighty gorge]

Its not about the voting, up, down, sideways

Jesus, sorry

[tardy night]

Really? Okay. We want nazi insignia in the alliance names and swastikas for emojis.

[untold niche]

I know its about the principle too

whether it makes sense too?

[mighty gorge]

You do understand your role isn't just to cut and paste everthing word for word

[winter canyon]

Spam are you okay?

[untold niche]

I understand what my role is very well thank you

[thorny hornet]

he forgot to use the sarcasm font

[mighty gorge]

Well, clearly not if your'e allowing posts in feedback like that

[tardy night]

I'm showing that there's feedback that the mods will reject

[untold niche]

Nothing is going to be perfect

There is a lot of feedback the players themselves post that I think is stupid too but they post it

[mighty gorge]

I agree, totally and completely, but also as a mod there are things in your control and gift

[winter canyon]

But the sad truth is that they will make even more cross-gen states in the future... eventually state 1100 will end up in the same pool as state 100

[untold niche]

Everyone has a right to their idea and way of thinking

[mighty gorge]

Elizabeth....

It isn't about gen skip

[untold niche]

Ok what would be your suggestion to a player on a dead server?

He has tried to switch now with the 60 day peiod transfer twice and guess what

He has landed on dead servers

I am just saying there is no real solution

[tardy night]

Those 60 day transfers switch choices every few hours

[untold niche]

yes and how many states above or below are the choices?

[tardy night]

And if 5 out of 10 servers are dead, allowing the cross movement too frequently between the servers - what would ensue? Players themselves are often the cause of dead servers.

[mighty gorge]

The 60d state selection changes, but then if not that route he has to save transfer tickets, get to know players in other states or via this server, by actually talking to people. Or wait for a merge in the future. But its also about the actual wording. The feedback itself is undone by the ask he wants to be able to move between 1126 and 555. As a moderator, you should be pointing out, before he commits to his feedback why that isn't the case.

[untold niche]

That I don't know. You are right in that the players make that choice

[mighty gorge]

Equally, the feedback could be constructed differently, highlighting the deficiences in the merge or transfer process.

[untold niche]

I did suggest that he do the above

how would you word it Chaos?

[mighty gorge]

Just want to be clear also King, this isn't just aimed at you, there is a wider mod training issue that isn't just limited to guiding players, or posting feedback

[untold niche]

its ok we are instructed to help and teach the players

[mighty gorge]

Its pretty easy, make him understand how why his suggestion isn't feasible.

[untold niche]

The player in question was given the only solutions but didn't like them

[mighty gorge]

OK, what state generation is 1126? Gen 10/11? and 555, Gen 16/17?

They probably also have some of the 2nd gen aircraft etc in 555

[untold niche]

ok the report has been reversed since then but I understand

I would be open to a better solution that what is out there now for players

[mighty gorge]

I agree, completely. I've advocated many times how mergers are not a fix, and transfers need to be more open, transparent and easier. But always within the boundaries of the game mechanics. Asking to go from State 555 to 1126, or 1126 to 555 goes completely against any sort of logic. You either end up as an overpowered played in an newer state, or an underpowered farm in an older state.

Even with the best will in the world, and removal of everything in a downgrade, its simply not going to happen, unless at some point in the future every state has progressed and levelled out to be the same or they stop releasing new states

[untold niche]

Ok that makes sense.

how about migrating more states

so they aren't as dead

[mighty gorge]

You mean a more frequent state merge capability.

[untold niche]

yes

[oblique ridge]

Blissful bag pass is complete joke.

[untold niche]

Oops you mean where you draw for biocaps thenh have to buy keys to open the prize

depends on what you get as a prize in blissful

[mighty gorge]

Its possible, but, then you have to consider the other aspects. Its like folding in and folding in, until such time you have a core set of standardised states. But, you would have to do it in such as way that you stop releasing new states, incentivise people to join that 'group' or if you do release them, the release schedule is much further apart. Right now, you have new states opening within days of each other.

[untold niche]

ok I do see the downfall part

where the devs have to be careful which states they marge together

[mighty gorge]

They do, but you can only go so far.

[untold niche]

and Jacob how would you improve the blissful game?

[mighty gorge]

Anyway, I need to go for a while, I'm just trying to get people to think about their suggestions before they post stuff, and highlight how the moderating team can offer guidance.

[white turret]

I actually noticed this is very similar to the mines. Have you noticed that as well?

[untold niche]

Thank you for your insight Chaos

I will pass along your idea concerning that

anyone on some ideas to improve the blissful event?

why do you want instant max behometh?

[worldly sable]

Quickly get on LB

[untold niche]

ok I see

what would be the fun in that?

no challenge then?

[worldly sable]

ask everyone else chasing the top positions in world LB lol

It will help them spend more 🤍

[white turret]

[untold niche]

seriously the competition is that bad?

ok I will be back later. anyone wants to reach me directly is mod.kos Thank you.

[boreal gate]

[worldly sable]

[boreal gate]

nope still dead

[worldly sable]

Bring on splendor world LB

[boreal gate]

and lets us reset auto gathering selection

[worldly sable]

They should just let us choose to enable either/or/both automations

[frosty fern]

They should make a way of how to check how good a tempest is in-game with a meter so we know how bad it is

[boreal gate]

yup but i assumed that would be too much for their little brain

[brisk mortar]

Hello

[worldly sable]

game needs a test dummy feature

[frosty fern]

I did nothing

[worldly sable]

Mute Gun_Star

[frosty fern]

i think that is ptr

[worldly sable]

PTR is just them testing to see if new features crashes the server

nothing meaningful beyond that

[brisk mortar]

If you have some feedback about that, I would be willing to help😇

[worldly sable]

Charge us for PTR too please - we don't spend enough in game

[boreal gate]

Hello? isnt that considered a feedback?

[brisk mortar]

Are you not able to reset your auto gathering?

[boreal gate]

is there a way to do it?

[worldly sable]

No there's not

lol

[short cosmos]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[short cosmos]

Oh look another new event!!!!

STOP

[white turret]

You can recycle chief gear for operation festival

[boreal gate]

exactly how do we reset it?

[brisk mortar]

In the picture on the right, there if you click the other icons it will switch which resource it gathers

[boreal gate]

RESET!

i dont want to switch

i want to remove it

[brisk mortar]

You can disable the feature

[boreal gate]

i dont want to disable it

[worldly sable]

He wants to auto train troops lol

but not auto gather

[boreal gate]

if i do that i cant auto train troops

[brisk mortar]

My apologies. I did not know that they were dependent on each other

[wide cobalt]

Don't have that much energy

[boreal gate]

can you put that as feedback?

[brisk mortar]

Absolutely, I am working on it now

[boreal gate]

thank you
a little more and id run out of patience😂

[brisk mortar]

Observation: 
Players are unable to disable automatic Gathering without also disabling automatic troop training.

Consequence: 
Inability to remove automatic Gathering causes players to avoid using the feature, or disabling it when they go offline.

Suggested Solution:
Allow players to reset automatic Gathering and maintain automatic troop training.

State number
All states

What do you think?

[boreal gate]

that would work, ty

[brisk mortar]

You're welcomed. Sorry for the confusion.

It has been submitted, you may upvote it if you would like

Observation: 
There is currently not a Global leader board for  overall carrier power
Consequence: 
Players are unable to compare overall carrier strength

Suggested Solution: 
Add a new leader board for carrier strength.

State number
All states

How does that sound?

Okay, I will submit that for you

[mighty gorge]

I think there should be a leaderboard for troops healed

and troops enlisted also

[boreal gate]

a leaderboard for who chat the most

maybe one with state's player count

how about total wins

[mighty gorge]

Most annoying player in migo chat?

[boreal gate]

one for SVS, RR, POW, and so on

[worldly sable]

There should be a giant floating number above CC for how many invasions you've won

[thorny hornet]

you know, we all like to complain in here, but i would just like to say how awesome it is that we are given a sarge frag every day in our alliance store

cardini frags are too rich for my blood

[mighty gorge]

I still think this is the best thing ever they put in game....

• 3 Free Keys
• Lowest bag is 6 Keys
• Keys get recycled at the end of the event

[thorny hornet]

what happens if you don't claim your keys? does the auto "unclaimed rewards" mail send you the keys, then they get recycled, or does recycling occur first, then you can claim the keys so next time you could get 6 keys and actually open something?

[short cosmos]

I complain in here cause I'm frustrated a good game is being so severely mishandled 😂 Bless the Mods who fight for our sanity every day, yall are great, promise im not always mad at the game its just exasperation at this point 😂😂🤍

For legal reasons the first half is lighthearted in tone

Game would be big different if they were

90% of what they implement literally no one has asked for or have specifically begged them not to do 😂

And it's an intern

😂😂😂

[untold niche]

hello everyone

[short cosmos]

Becca still pops up when I collect infected reports with Travis Logs in them and my states on week 31 😂

[short cosmos]

Hey King

[untold niche]

how's everyone doing?

[short cosmos]

Loaded question u first

[untold niche]

hello Bug Reporter Ghost

well I am doing great been a long long day

I need to repair the chinks in my armor from dealing with complaints

[short cosmos]

Aw I'm sorry pookie, you're appreciated 🤍 no sarcasm, Mod duties is a thankless gig

[untold niche]

But its ok players mean well and sometimes they come up with some good suggestions

but otherwise its the usual day

how was your day?

[short cosmos]

As an Amazon slave I try to remember it's not me the persons emotions are aimed at and part of my job is light therapy

[untold niche]

yep that's the ticket

[short cosmos]

Long but I'm alive so 😂

[untold niche]

You one of those huh? I order a zillion things from them

[short cosmos]

I'm a distribution warehouse quality control lead so I'm the guy that fixes your packages if they blow up and make sure they get to ya on time

[untold niche]

oh bless you have had problems over the last 30 plus years

and they get straightened out

so you guys in a love hate relationship with SoS?

[sinful bramble]

[short cosmos]

Actively

[untold niche]

or just love

[thorny hornet]

i supposedly got one of the rarest blissful bag prizes, a chief badge fast pass... costs 200 keys... or $100... only works on gold or below chief badges.... so, spend $100 now for one chief badge upgrade or buy the weekly badge box in the store for alliance coins and have enough material to do one upgrade for gold and below in 2 weeks... hmm tough call, tough call....

[untold niche]

those bag prizes are reallyyyyy rare

[short cosmos]

I love the game as a concept and what it started out as I don't love feeling like I'm opening a pocket casino every day now and like I gotta pay beyond my means just so little Timmy with his moms credit card doesn't make my game unplayable but meh

[worldly sable]

I want chat permissions to be added in game. Like no one should be able to send me an entire essay while I'm asleep

[untold niche]

oops F2p Lisa

[short cosmos]

I feel attacked

[worldly sable]

"do you want to accept this message"

so I can pick no every time

[untold niche]

[short cosmos]

Block button is my favorite social tool

[worldly sable]

as you should

[short cosmos]

Block list longer than my- HEY

[untold niche]

I am running away from all those messages

[short cosmos]

RUDE

[thorny hornet]

be like me and don't spend anything

[untold niche]

You must receive a book heh?

[short cosmos]

Oh I can't afford this game by far

[untold niche]

You can spend nothing and still have fun

but if you are trying for the leaderboards at top of events

[short cosmos]

I do mild spending here and there so I can float along my whales current pathway but I am not in the financial position to spend actively 😂

[untold niche]

I feel like you need to spend something

[short cosmos]

My brain is what I bring to the table for my alliance so they say

[untold niche]

or you can spend a lot and then skate for several years

I think the game attempts to give all players a chance

[short cosmos]

It just sucks if some big p2p jerk decides to have a vendetta against you they are fully capable of making your game unplayable as f2p

[untold niche]

If you are weak you join a great alliance

[shrewd sundial]

17849b952

[short cosmos]

Mod answer

😂🤍

[worldly sable]

chance to get zeroed

[untold niche]

well no not a mod answer

[short cosmos]

TMNT event vast majority is locked behind a paywall

[thorny hornet]

i have to admit, i did spend on this game. early on i was cleaning out my wallet and found an old gift card with about $6 left on it and i bought the second construction slot. then, to my shame, i bought o2 machine in underground 3 times. in total, i have spent almost $8.53 on this game, or about 7/10ths of a penny per day

[untold niche]

is it not true if you are weak you can join a very powerful alliance?

then you can still enjoy the game

[short cosmos]

Yeah but how are those alliances powerful?

Spending

Wether it's yours or someone else's the game relies on credit cards

[untold niche]

well yes spending but you don't have to spend then

someone has to spend to support the game

[short cosmos]

In a game where strategy, dedication time and effort can be outweighed by someone's wallet in 5 seconds that's a massive flaw

[untold niche]

that's just common sense

[short cosmos]

Only because they designed it this way

[untold niche]

You are making some good points Ghost

are you on one of the older servers?

[short cosmos]

The states are designed to die so the spenders start over and continue to pay into the revenue of the game, it's a Borderline pyramid scheme with extra interaction

I've been playing since 2019 so I've watched the evolution of the game

[untold niche]

ok but those same players can migrate to another server?

and you are saying its a repeating circle?

[short cosmos]

Theyre fixing things that aren't broken and taking away from f2p and ignoring the things the community rallies about, out of all the game communities im a part of this one is the most proactively miserable

[untold niche]

what do you think about the tnmt event?

[short cosmos]

Whole scam that shouldn't have happened

[thorny hornet]

i have seen spenders abandon accounts they have spent thousands on to start again in a new state because now they were wiser on how to spend and wanted to dominate a new state from the start with their new knowledge

[untold niche]

well true tomfoolery but also because they can't transfer to more than 6 states below or above them too

the turtle event did have its problems though

[short cosmos]

To implement an event that some players can access and some cannot they cannot simultaneously exist and not exist on the same server, not to mention the unfairness of people missing out on a whole event full of items and minigames but the biggest flaw bugs and morals aside is the fact that only 1 currency is available for f2p out of 3 and unless you buy packs you don't get barely any pizza slices at all so it's pointless

[untold niche]

so we should try and give the f2p players more options?

[thorny hornet]

you can get some of the ninja star currency in the shell shock event

[short cosmos]

Transferring states should be based on players stats averages and if they are too strong to where they'd imbalance the state they shouldn't be allowed in

[short cosmos]

Oh of course the event that I can't even play because it's BROKEN 😂

[untold niche]

question then is: what if the game gave f2p players smaller packages to purchase would that work?

[short cosmos]

Purchasing packages is not f2p

[untold niche]

yes I know about the freezes happening

yes I know Ghost but at least some who could only spend a very little could

[short cosmos]

Spenders will Always have an advantage and I absolutely understand it the problem is there is Borderline no give to the f2p players that make up the larger end of the games community

[untold niche]

what would be your suggestion then to help out f2p?

[pallid willow]

Since these decorations have skills rather than just a few stats, what’s better to get the hq or one of the decorations?

[short cosmos]

Give me f2p states or f2p version of the game where shops don't exist and everyones gotta work for their power and I'll shut up 😂😂

[untold niche]

that depends YH Michelle

Myself I would choose the hq if it gave me better stats than the one piece of decoration

no you also have to remember that some decorations are part of sets which give you very nice stats when you level them up

[short cosmos]

I hope I'm not coming off as argumentative I'm just an autistic idea guy, I think a lot about alot 😂

[untold niche]

its ok Ghost I like you expressing your opinion

[short cosmos]

I feel like if the Devs cared as much as the mods did the game would improve drastically

[untold niche]

Some of my best suggestions forwarded to the developers have come from people like yourself

[short cosmos]

You can just tell when a game is seen as a business/marketing tool and when its seen as a game and SoS just isn't a game to them

What SoS was when in started out vs what it is now is not fundamentally the same

[untold niche]

I see this game as a learning curve...you never stop learning

[short cosmos]

If I was new to The game in this era I would've Uninstalled it, I stay because of what I've grown to appreciate over the years and my friends

The problem is those are the only reasons to stay for the vast majority

[untold niche]

well yes friends are very important in here

That's still a good reason to stay

I have more friends in here than in real life

[short cosmos]

Yeah but our friends quit daily out of exasperation over being unheard by people who only seem interested in making money and not developing their game for the community

[untold niche]

That's not good either. Hey you catch my latest suggestion posted? #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[short cosmos]

SoS just stopped being a game

[untold niche]

Thats was from several players

[boreal gate]

This proves how uninformed and stoopid some mods are

[untold niche]

well no reason to get rude

lets cakll it uninformed

we are learning every day

[boreal gate]

Idk how for example a mod is here listening trying to help when they dont know anything needed about the game to be a mod

No offense

[untold niche]

Ok everyone is entitled to their opinion

I respect that

[boreal gate]

But to understand what people who are spending a huge amount of money on something first you need to be in the same position

[untold niche]

Ok and if we are in that position?

[boreal gate]

I seriously doubt theres any mod here in that position

Prove me wrong and i ll accept that i was wrong

Show us a big whale rally lead who is a mod

[untold niche]

well I can't reveal anything about my being a mod

[boreal gate]

Exactly so you cant prove it

[untold niche]

I could prove whatever I wanted but it would violate the rules

[boreal gate]

If i want to help and be in a support position for a product first i need to know the product very well

[untold niche]

That I cannot do

Then you know what a great idea would be? Apply to become a MOD.

[short cosmos]

Mods are volunteers basically, regular players trying to help more in the community so it's not necessarily fair to expect them to know all and I don't think King was trying to insinuate he was right about the conversation

[untold niche]

That's true I don't know everything

[tiny quiver]

Hey guys remember Mods are players first and foremost..they never claimed to know everything about the game and neither can we… they are just here to try and help

[untold niche]

If I did I would be a developer

[short cosmos]

He's obviously gotten lucky in the states he's played in and some people do have a better experience than others, it happens

[tiny quiver]

So be respectful of that ..

[short cosmos]

I envy the optimism tbh

[untold niche]

I cover a lot of territory..just leave it there

[boreal gate]

Ugh

[untold niche]

Anyway we were having a great convo about the game Ghost

so how would you go about helping out f2p players

[boreal gate]

And no i dont want to be a mod of a game where no feedbacks are taken into consideration and the community is always left to find things on their own

[untold niche]

ok that's your choice

[short cosmos]

There just needs to be a balance between p2p and f2p events, right now 1240 has like 7 different Pay to Play events right now with maybe a 2% give for f2p players. I'd literally willingly watch ads to unlock things if it came to it

[untold niche]

so more prize elements available to f2p?

without costing anything

[tiny quiver]

Feedbacks do make there way to the game and some are listened too..but sadly the implement changes are not always timely or in line with what we asked for…

[short cosmos]

Prize elements or unlock options, let us use biocaps if we don't have cash to blow

[untold niche]

I do agree with that statement Grandma Cherub

[short cosmos]

Let us buy diamonds with biocaps, something, anything is better than nothing

And right now we are at nothing

[boreal gate]

More rewards is probably being mentioned here a million times but suuuure make that a million and one for sure they will consider it now🤣

[untold niche]

hmm buying diamonds with biocaps

[short cosmos]

It's like every update they take away the crumbs given to f2p players

[tiny quiver]

I like the idea of being able to purchase some form of bundle with bio caps…that would be helpful to all levels of players

[untold niche]

ok would those bundles be available for everyone to buy?

with biocaps?

[short cosmos]

With biocaps people will still struggle and have to work for it but at least we have some kind of step forward

[untold niche]

ok how do you currently get biocaps in game?

[boreal gate]

Watch them implement it but decrease the amount of free biocaps you get in the game🤣

[short cosmos]

Dedicating Way too much time to this silly app 😂

[tiny quiver]

Sure we don’t want to cause issues with p2p that will only result in more complaints and a removal of the ability

[short cosmos]

This is what I mean by taking away the crumbs End is exactly right in this speculation it's already happened

[boreal gate]

Yeah like rays place gets you less and less items for same biocaps🤣

[short cosmos]

As with Lucky Card event

Lucky Card event used to be my saving grace as a mild spender for plasma now its a whole joke

[untold niche]

what if we offered this to just players say from level 1 to level 10 easier way to get more biocaps through missions

[tiny quiver]

But to add more ways to obtain items for events or for basic growth would help a lot…p2p need midspenders and f2p to join events and keep the social network alive

[boreal gate]

What happens to players above level 10?

[untold niche]

why is lucky card a joke now?

[short cosmos]

Level 1 to 10 takes like, what, 5 hours with effort? That wouldn't help anyone long term

[untold niche]

sorry I was looking at a better jump start for f2p players

[short cosmos]

We get less free tickets and the odds % is clearly adjusted finding plasma with a multiplier is Borderline impossible now

[short cosmos]

No I can appreciate the thought but the problem is the long term effects of neglecting the f2p community

[tiny quiver]

They need to upgrade the ability to obtain poly plasma for mid and low spenders…as well as f2p

[untold niche]

ok here is an outlansdish idea...separate servers for f2p players

[short cosmos]

Whales make up only a small % of this games community, f2p players got it where it is now with their population of states and they're just kicked around by kids with credit cards

[short cosmos]

I've been Begging for this for YEARS

[boreal gate]

Now that would be awesome🤣

Pure grind to get stronger

[tiny quiver]

The cost and time it takes to gain enough to upgrade research and how lvs is crazy

[short cosmos]

Make it a whole separate app with no shop as I've said before, put ads in it who cares at least everyone will be on equal footing

[unreal lichen]

[boreal gate]

Even the new VIP levels

[untold niche]

but then f2p vs f2p would be fairer in all events on those servers

hello Luna

[tiny quiver]

I like that idea but it’s been asked for before and the game said no

[boreal gate]

Imagine spending $5000 to get one vip level higher

[untold niche]

welcome to the convo on game

[short cosmos]

I'll watch 100 hours of ads if it means I can play a game like a game 😂

[boreal gate]

And your daily crates gives you 2 hrs speedups and 6 gold frags or something

[tiny quiver]

Hi Luna Vox

[unreal lichen]

Hi, i loved the idea of a f2p server, fair competition

[short cosmos]

The amount of money they make on this game and would continue to do so afterwards they can afford to copy paste their coding and take the shops out

[unreal lichen]

[untold niche]

we were discussing how game could help out f2p

[short cosmos]

They already copy and paste their codes for all these spam events why not make another app

[untold niche]

then let the spenders compete against themselves

[short cosmos]

I wanna know what they do with all this money when the game is still busted to all heck where is the revenue going 😂

Cause it's not into game improvements 😂

[tiny quiver]

If they want a sustainable solution they need to stop looking at the big dollars and start to watch the small ones…

[white turret]

Other games probably. Paying employees…

[short cosmos]

SoS is designed to run itself heck the mods are player volunteers

[tiny quiver]

Big bucks are flashes in the pan ..it’s the smaller totals that come in steadily that sustain a game and company

[white turret]

Essentially it is a competition between spenders. A ftp can’t really compete anymore

[short cosmos]

This game makes Millions a year they need to get a new accountant if they're not able to budget properly

[untold niche]

F2p are caught in the middle

[white turret]

Well this is what funplus does for other games unfortunately. So this pattern isn’t really anything new

[untold niche]

what percent of player do you think are f2p?

[white turret]

Hmmm good question. Probably around 90%

[untold niche]

that many?

[white turret]

Between 70-90%

[short cosmos]

States die when f2p players get sick of being treated like garbage and leave in bulk

States survive if whales leave

[untold niche]

wow but then look at the amount of free advertising the game gets from word of mouth through those players

[white turret]

It goes both ways unfortunately. The ftp need the whales and the whales need the ftp. States probably die out faster when there big whale friends leave.

[untold niche]

which then brings in paying players

[short cosmos]

Whales are why States are paired with heavy hitters for events like SvS, take them out of the equation the fights are more realistic

[tiny quiver]

85 % f2p 10 % mid to low spenders 5% whales

[short cosmos]

We had 4 trust fund babies leave 1240 and we suddenly started getting more realistic SvS opponents and even began to win a few so maybe I'm bias on that

[white turret]

Just depends on the SvS matchmaking. And how well your state works together.

[white turret]

5% whale is generous tbh. What are you defining as whale?

[short cosmos]

My state is 30 weeks old at best and only top 3 shows for SvS anymore we got killed off pretty quick by all the pay heavy events and features released right away

[white turret]

You sorta need state alliances for SvS. And everyone has to work together… unless in unique scenarios there is one massive whale alliance that can carry the state. Which is the case in my other state.

[untold niche]

so the paying players are also increased by word of mouth of the free players

[short cosmos]

We got aircrafts like 3 weeks into the state opening

[short cosmos]

Here it's my international alliance vs Russia vs Asia, we get along with the Asian alliance well enough but they're sick of Russia so they're leaving next transfer event

[untold niche]

ok guys I need to run. great group and some great minds too. You can reach me anytime through dm's in here. Have a great day!

[white turret]

Uhhh the plane unlocks at hq 18. So basically someone could unlock it within a day of playing.

[short cosmos]

It's pretty much game over for my state

[white turret]

People come and go. It’s part of the game and life.

[short cosmos]

My previous state I didn't see aircrafts until well into at least 4 or 6 months of state spawn

[short cosmos]

I mean yeah

[white turret]

Yeah it’s some new bs. There releasing stuff a lot faster cuz there trying to increase the matchmaking for “older” states.

So what they will do? Release stuff faster and essentially skip hero generations on all newer states. Already happened 2 separate times to 2 different state ranges.

Why? Because old states are dying out. And why is that? Due to funplus.

It’s not official but it’s obvious enough.

[stable cosmos]

Maybe if they'd stop releasing new states and provide both paid and free methods to catch up when you join an older state as a new player. Like if you started in state 1 for some reason the game would just go "here is hq1, upgrade to p11?" And grant you a few 1000 free potions and capsules for a couple of gens. As well as enough to at minimum unlock the limitless gens. Its not going to make you current and further progress will require time and money, but supplying ready made stuff at varying levels dependant on state age means you can stop creating new states and consolidate your player base

[white turret]

You actually have a valid point right there. As long as they made some sorta limit on each individual account. But would definitely be very beneficial

[worldly sable]

Merge new states into older states

6 months in

[white turret]

Well state transfer is coming up soon enough

[stable cosmos]

Wheee. And the feedback section will fill up with people confused or angry about how it works and nothing else will matter for a week.

[white turret]

That ought to be interesting. I never pay attention to feedback during transfer

I guess the server will be more active during that time frame.

[mighty gorge]

I've been saying similar for the best part of the last year or two

[pallid willow]

Anyone knows? :’)

[mighty gorge]

The decorations

[harsh owl]

Decorations

The HQ most likely won't be used as your main HQ in SVS etc, so leveling it up would be pointless, whereas the decorations can be leveled up and have their effects work for you in the background.

I know a player in my old state who goes crazy on decos and it does a lot for her

**Competent Developers: **May we please have your UID so we can check the crash logs for your account? We’d like to help get to the bottom of this and improve your gaming experience.

Incompetent Developers: We’ve made recent updates and don’t know why you’re still experiencing constant crashes. Can you record the issue and send us a video?

Are crash logs no longer a thing, or is FP just lazy and incompetent?

[distant gull]

I love SoS

[worldly sable]

Terrible

My one purchase I made in the last 3 years failed me

[boreal gate]

cough one purchase

[worldly sable]

🤷🏻‍♀️

[thorny hornet]

Lisa doesn't need to purchase her own stuff, she has people who spend their money for her

[white turret]

Bro why you tryna convince ppl you ftp💀💀

[worldly sable]

I wish 😂😂

I just want to know why all prizes aren’t unlocked yet, it’s the last day 🥴

[white turret]

If your spending/ lucky enough one of the decorations. Although only really useful if you’re a RL and not all of those statues are good either.

[granite quartz]

Anyone else's shell shock crashing when dying?

[near mesa]

We need to call the dev

📞

[worldly sable]

I want that one frame at the end

[near mesa]

Do the quit threat

This is crazy

[stable cosmos]

Shell shock has been buggy as anything since it was made live.

[harsh owl]

Pretty much everyone. They really went full lazy on TMNT

[radiant mica]

Sorry you are having issues with Shell Shock - here is a bug report that has been documented - #🐞︱bug-reporting message - feel free to vote.

And here as well - #🐞︱bug-reporting message - see if any of these are issues you are encountering and vote please.

If not - you may follow https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1100554115643355197 to report your bug. Let me know if you need any other help with this.

[worldly sable]

GM said to buy another bundle to fix it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Unbelievable

I didn’t even want the first bundle tbh

[pallid willow]

Their next level scam 🤦🏻‍♀️

At the state migo mines thing, to expand the mines spawn in the map after reaching 400 points, does anyone knows if each upgrade is counted as a point? Or every how many upgrades make one point?

On here

Cause these days we advanced quite quickly and then since yesterday it seems stucked there even tho we certainly made upgrades on the mine tech

[tiny quiver]

Each of the matching equals an point

[pallid willow]

Pls explain a bit further 🙈

Which matching 😅

[tiny quiver]

If you look at the event page look to the matching tile … exp. Pick ax if 400 pickaxes are upgraded that first reward will open

Same for the next the blue rocks 400 are needed to upgrade the next lv

I think there are 2-3 in everyone’s plan .., so when they open them it adds to the state total

[pallid willow]

So the red gem symbol doesn’t count?

[tiny quiver]

Red gem ?

[pallid willow]

The level mine upgrade

At the migo tree

[tiny quiver]

That’s personal the picture you have there is state level

[pallid willow]

But we today made at least confirmed 3 upgrades and it did not move

[tiny quiver]

There are personal levels and state levels

[pallid willow]

🤔 but the state level is made by everyone tree no?

From our personal upgrades

You do know how these state points work or not really? 😂 i don’t wanna be further confused

[tiny quiver]

Sorry break over

[pallid willow]

Can a mod ask and confirm how these points are counted pls? 😊 or anyone that is 100% sure

[tiny quiver]

Will try to help out later

[unreal lichen]

As for the contribution to the point, upgrades in the player’s tree count towards the point on the upgrade. I just went in and checked, I did an upgrade as well, but it did not reflect on the state tech page as well.

Maybe it’s updated base on a certain time frame, but I will look around for additional information regarding that.

[pallid willow]

Then is bugged all over? A friend who plays in another state see the same trouble

[pallid willow]

That makes sense, pls tag me when you find out 🙏

[feral kraken]

[near mesa]

So it is buy the next one to unlock the previous one

Wtf

[lusty harness]

I suggest fp sell the game to me for a solid 50 pence and a half eaten McDonald’s apple pie

[worldly sable]

[unreal lichen]

May I DM you?

[pallid willow]

Yes pls

[fresh smelt]

Hi, how do I know if there was an update on a reported feedback?

[crude stratus]

Wait, they listen to feedbacks and give updates?

Since when?

[stiff ether]

He will most likely get it I guess. Quid pro quo.

[spark kindle]

They sometimes answer about popular feedbacks on dev feedback sessions

[crude stratus]

Oh, then my feedbacks aren’t popular enough

[charred swift]

Auto farming and auto troop training is all well and good but it needs to pick the correct talent. There is no point auto farming if it takes 12 hours on a tile because you have war talents selected, or auto troop training if it takes a day and a half to cook the troops because you are on eco

[crude stratus]

That’s the result from not listening to feedback from ptr

[charred swift]

A potentially good feature that hasn’t been thought through so will just be switched off as it is worse than not having it at all

[stable cosmos]

The devs announce something in the next update and you remember that there was feedback about it. Note that no matter how simple the feedback was the devs WILL f--- it up and do something stupid

[vale yoke]

[rocky otter]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

maybe they make 6 keys. pls upvote

[boreal gate]

Do we get tmnt frags in story missions or is it just purple frags?

[crude stratus]

And devs like: If you want 6 keys go and spend

[crude stratus]

60 purple frags and 42 turtle frags per hero

[rocky otter]

and devs gonna get

[boreal gate]

Okay thank you paul

[crude stratus]

Watch my video and subscribe

[stray acorn]

[crude stratus]

You too

[rocky otter]

if devs make 6 keys for blissful bag, ill watch

[stray acorn]

NEVAH!

[woven spire]

Auto gather🤣

[cloud ridge]

Guess depends on what you want, your collection level, if you have other statues etc. I'm personally going for statue as I only need one more then I have one of each. I I already had them then I'd pick skin, if I had both then probably pick skin on the chance they added this as a skin collection set

[cloud ridge]

Should really be common sense more than anything, dont need people to tell you that which you're going to ignore anyway...

[distant gull]

I hate this stupid game

[winter canyon]

What task is this?

So cheaters?

[unreal lichen]

According to my information you have to send only 15 messages. And it's faster if you send stickers 🙂

[stoic elm]

same way you can "remove 100 decos" in seconds lol know the work around

[winter canyon]

Still impossible in 2 seconds

[unreal lichen]

For this I also have a suggestion. Put 100 street pieces in a row click on select and destroy and all 100 will be deleted at the same time.

[cloud ridge]

Yeah, but all the tasks people find a way to cheat in

Only tasks from memory you could do in a second or so would be the relocate and demolition tasks

[candid crag]

State transfer coom soon..Can someone help me how to make my migration point going down..

[cloud ridge]

Everything else will take a good few seconds at least

[cloud ridge]

Lose troops basically

[winter canyon]

Why is no one adressing this?💢

[cloud ridge]

The tasks?

It's always been brought up each time

[winter canyon]

The cheats

[cloud ridge]

Cause its literally impossible to do it in the shown time

[candid crag]

Yeah its cheat

[cloud ridge]

Unless, you cheat of course 👀

Which is made evident by it being the same people normally

[candid crag]

That must be dev insider players..

[cloud ridge]

Usually the legit ones tend to rank around 5 onwards

[crude stratus]

Troop power is only a very small part of migration score

[cloud ridge]

Oh is it, I thought it was main factor

[candid crag]

Any idea from where to lowest migration point?

[crude stratus]

No

[cloud ridge]

I don't have to kill my poor boys then, I love them too much 😂

[cloud ridge]

So, now to find out how to tell my migration score then

[unreal lichen]

More impact on migration score has tempest arms and development of your settlement. Lower your Migration score is not possible by just taking off the tempest arms. You have to put them for auction or destroy them

[unreal lichen]

You open your chief profile and there should be a little "i" next to your battle power. Click on it and your migration rating will be shown

[candid crag]

Max 45

Just need 45

Can dev help lowest the migration point please.. that way cost to much ticket to do transfer state

-50% migration point cost from usual is better

[crude stratus]

They will definitely not help. They want you to buy tickets

[cloud ridge]

thank you, I'll check later

[candid crag]

I wont buy transfer pass for it… i better quit the game …

Like others players.. who already choose to quit this game after doomsday

[winter canyon]

Transfer is only for spenders😅

Average F2P needs 30+ passes to transfer and there's no way to get it

[candid crag]

Many Spenders decide to quit after doomsday

Ticket is easy to get now but the cost is high for spend it.. because the migration point

[unreal lichen]

There's also a lot of events where you can exchange your event currency for tickets. In the TMNT collaboration event you can exchange your pizza slices, ninja stars for it. In pearl store you can also get tickets 🙂 And of course you have a new chance every week to get a ticket from alliance store. Maybe this helps you to collect some tickets until your next transfer event

[candid crag]

I know i have tickets but i dont like spend to much tickets for this migration point

[winter canyon]

Sent wrong march to lvl9 quarry

[unreal lichen]

As we have no information yet about when there will be a new state transfer event starting and which states will be included it's still possible that some adjustments will be made until then. Last transfer events some players were surprised that they needed less or the same amount of tickets than during the past event.

[candid crag]

need someone made a ticket to dev to lowest the migration cost

[distant gull]

1b migration rating 😱

Why they didnt know spam stickers 🤔

[stoic elm]

only chance my f2p as can top rank on this one 😂

[hollow pebble]

Make formations but can’t reset them back to no formations, such a broken system

[winter canyon]

You're not doing it in 2 seconds

[distant gull]

I did 3 seconds 😐 rank 2 why

[winter canyon]

You need to talk to 20 contacts, no?

[stoic elm]

with a mouse, yeah you can. are people clicking 1 per sec 😂

[winter canyon]

How are you doing that in 3 seconds without cheating

[stoic elm]

just 1 contact works

[forest kiln]

Basically kill troops, sell or recycle tempest arms

[winter canyon]

Well if I knew that...

[mighty gorge]

What is this nonsense now?

[winter canyon]

Apparently you can spam 1 contact 20 times to complete surprise task "People person"...

But still doesn't explain how people are resetting talent 10 times in 2 seconds

Btw switching doesn't work

You have to reset it

[loud condor]

Macros

[winter canyon]

That's called cheating

[loud condor]

60 taps per second should be borderline suspicious.

Any good games should have basic anti cheat bake in. Anything beyond human capabilities should be capped.

[stoic elm]

i find that some of this are either better on pc or phone 😂 but just cant be eff switching, ill just do the ones i can do well on pc

[radiant mica]

And just a gentle reminder - cheating and hacks go against the FunPlus terms of use. You can find them here https://funplus.com/terms-conditions/en/.

And I understand it can be frustrating.

[winter canyon]

That's what some people are doing in the surprise tasks

[loud condor]

They should be teapot

[radiant mica]

Unfortnantely, it can be hard to catch.

[crude stratus]

Tell that all who complete tasks in 1 or 2 seconds

[loud condor]

Actually it is very easy to catch those

[mighty gorge]

Do you truly believe FP actually care? and its actually easy to catch

[prisma plume]

Hard to catch. Use commen sense and the task that needs to be completed and look at times and no possible way. Really hard to catch???

[radiant mica]

You folks are way more tech savvy than I am - for me - it would be hard to catch. 🤣

[winter canyon]

Very easy to catch tbh

No one is resetting talents 5 times in 2 seconds

[mighty gorge]

I personally can't stand those surprise things, never do them. Just like those dumb mini games they keep inventing that take you to a spuriously suspicious unsecure site

[unreal lichen]

You could just deliberately bake in a delay in inputs making a macro pointless

[radiant mica]

Ok - a langauge I do not understand. But please here is the feedback how to https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132 - it would be good to send this in. I can certainly help, if needed.

[unreal lichen]

They've done nothing about macros in 3 years they won't do anything now. It doesn't affect their profit .margins so there's no desire.

[mighty gorge]

We shouldn't be telling FP how to secure their own systems, or to code correctly.

[crude stratus]

But I like this reminder.
And the fact that it’s still possible to cheat in the tasks shows how much feedbacks are heard. It was reported from the very first time this event appeared

[prisma plume]

Our chunk of states did people person in 1 second

[radiant mica]

I get it - it isn't any fun for the folks that follow the rules - but I do think the feedback is important and if you have a spare minute - filling out does help, just my personal opinion.

[unreal lichen]

They haven't even closed the loop where you can log in to two accounts at the same time.

[mighty gorge]

Thats still happening? Sheesh.

[vale yoke]

[unreal lichen]

Yep

[mighty gorge]

You're back!!

[vale yoke]

Shh

It's a secret

[crude stratus]

How often this topic was in feedback?

[radiant mica]

About the 2 accounts or the fast clicks?

[prisma plume]

You would think after people have multiple stuck trucks and other still able to send some they would just pull the truck event since other are unfairly getting rewards. But no. Keep it going

[unreal lichen]

announces Liannin return in every server

[crude stratus]

Cheating in the tasks