📋︱feedback-discussion

[junior bone]

How do I pack load the Christmas event 😂😂

[tame lintel]

I came when you posted the pic of all your lvl 7 gems

[junior bone]

It’s Christmas time so I need to shop but that new res hero looks fire 😍😍😍

I added feedback to the crystal mines appear on the red zone

I remember during last cc someone brought it up

it made things a little difficult for us if we didn’t port early

[worldly sable]

I was called a nut case and threatened to delete the pic

Def makes me want to do it

Ask a mod to do it, maybe if you’re nice about it, they will

[tame lintel]

Threatened??

Man you love your lies

[worldly sable]

The f word is very aggressive

I felt threatened

[tame lintel]

Your very not smart

[worldly sable]

You’re

lol

[tame lintel]

I dont care what you felt

[worldly sable]

Then I don’t care that you want me to delete it

[tame lintel]

If you think your effecting me. Your not. But others look at things your doing very differently than I.

[worldly sable]

Affecting, you’re, etc

[tame lintel]

Child*

[faint flint]

Also is there going to be changes to alliance Throwdown. This new ones needs drastic changes as it’s just a pile of 💩and please clear this chat of trolls posting rubbish as messages are lost

[vivid grove]

Maybe we should all go to General since we are not giving feedback about the game

[worldly sable]

I was

[vivid grove]

I dont like the new throwdown either its not very small alliance friendly

[worldly sable]

New throwdown is terrible for everyone

[faint flint]

Everyone hates it and it costs a fortune for little reward.

[vivid grove]

Yeah i do the rewards I want and stop. Its not worth emptying my back pack out

[stable cosmos]

We'd LOVE to hear if they're going to change it. Its pretty universally loathed

Feedback back to us would be great. Cos this time round i bet theres less spending on it than the last

[faint flint]

And as everyone now found out that it’s not just passing your Personnal reward tiers but the alliance also has to pass theirs.

[stable cosmos]

If they're not gonna change it it means i can put it out of my mind completely

[faint flint]

Me too. My server will likely drop it completely. So now we see that we ask them to cut out too much new stuff and now I see tanks to add to marches with plane and ape etc. they are totally insane

[stable cosmos]

I wouldn't care about tanks if they were 6 months away and were set up as a slow upgrade burn. They won't be that though. Spenders will max them in 2 weeks and fup will need to stick to its dumb update schedule

[worldly sable]

Next time they say they will slow down, they should expand on that

[faint flint]

Makes it easier for a whale to totally zero smaller players with 1 hit.

RIP state of survival 🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦🪦

[junior bone]

Mods all ignore me

The crystals maneeee 😢

[tame lintel]

Your a queen ella lacky

[pallid willow]

May your mouth be of a prophet

[tame lintel]

Haha.

[vivid grove]

What was ignored Weaver?

[junior bone]

Crystal mines in the redzone

[vivid grove]

They are all over the place

[faint flint]

They obstruct in SvS

[vivid grove]

In the grey area around svs too

[tiny heath]

They need more

[tame lintel]

Maybe removed from "red zone" for cap/svs. Would be great

[faint flint]

They won’t as they are muppets

[tame lintel]

The Muppets are a very iconic show. Please use different insult😅🤣

[worldly sable]

I dunno, kind of saves some people the trouble of launching a billion infected from books

[faint flint]

People have to stop spending, even if it’s a couple of weeks until changes are promised. Won’t happen though

[stable cosmos]

The only thing that stopped spending was that update where fup broke the purchase mechanism

[faint flint]

Wasn’t that though, when Google and Apple removed their games from stores 🤣

[worldly sable]

They did us a favor, shame they got it back up

[stable cosmos]

Google and apple don't have the morals to remove it from their stores. Should trash all fups games as deceptive and misleading

[faint flint]

They still have a court case pending, a class action was raised

[stoic mountain]

[native basin]

Hello, KoTH is meant to be on now and I’m getting this….

[stable cosmos]

Add to bug reporting. Report to cs. This place is 100% not for immediate fixes unless saberlot is paying attention

[pallid willow]

Lets make a bet on how many bugs we find today

[stable cosmos]

New bugs only or old ones count too?

[faint flint]

Was one in svs. Auto heal button was on 20 second delay

[modest moss]

it’s reported in game and it sucks report in game is closed with the same dumb answer fix your internet connection 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

What happens if its logged with, my entire alliance is taking 20 seconds to enter the quick heal menu.

[severe ice]

We are aware of the issues with KOTH, Please upvote this report. Thank you and sorry for any inconvenience. #🐞︱bug-reporting message

[modest moss]

all who face this at koth right now should get full compensation of rewards for koth as well as migo

[faint flint]

Be happy with 20 skin tickets and 300;bios.

Sorry also 5 adv searches 😂

[modest moss]

lol 🤣 we all know how much sos suck at proper compensation

[tiny heath]

[modest moss]

but honestly why should we keep spending if they can’t even provide a working game ?🤣🤣🤣

[pallid willow]

New xD

[pallid willow]

There was also one that said “you dont have that many troops to heal” lol

[modest moss]

same , I had this one too

[strong grove]

😩

[solemn gulch]

daily reminder for people still complaining here
"bugs doesn't make game lose money won't be fixed"

[tardy night]

Who are you quoting

[stable cosmos]

More than half the time the people in here know that. Its complain to air it out, or quit

[worldly sable]

Jesus, probably

[regal tusk]

[stable cosmos]

Why so secretive? You could say what you reduced it to. You could also say what the tasks are worth. As you've done neither throwdown is still gonna be a giant mess. If it was going to be good you wouldn't be so vague

[cosmic tulip]

FP is laughing at us with KOTH betting. Hmmm so now we have to guess when thing's closes and surprise surprise, that was sometime this morning. 🥹

[cloud ridge]

Still probably going to use the coin to skip in migo. If increase troop power is now only a normal task and still no personal task then it'll be harder to get internally.

Still the rewards are not worth investing in unless there increased significantly and not slightly....

[tardy night]

wut. where are these heroes available in gen 12? And what's a rally initiator suppsoed to do about their rally fillers being zeroed in one hit cuz they had 3 months to work on 5 gens just before this?

[stable cosmos]

Points at the original levels would mean throwdown is okayish again. If the top solo prizes cost more than 4200 points it remainsjunk

[cosmic tulip]

There are available by purchase only... Special deals store.

[tardy night]

Ah yes, while allowing for more super states.

[tardy night]

not in gen 12

[cosmic tulip]

Oh. 13-16 it has to be a typo 😂

[tardy night]

and special deals wont make any rally fillers budget increase by a factor of 4x to work on 5 hero gens either. 50 bucks spenders still spending 50 bucks. They will compensate somewhere. Tanks or heroes.

[cosmic tulip]

This is true, but for some states they only had map's to work on gen 13's ....

[dense lance]

It probably means "the states that went from Generation 12 suddenly to Generation 16"

[chrome cliff]

FYI, Crytal mines lvl 9 are not worth it. I just tried one. I can't beat lvl 9 (best march can kick untill lvl 8) and as a result you get a filled hospital. Definitely not worth the few Ascend items you can get for it. Also wasted a migo skill for this 😤

Besides that this mining seems mostly useful for F2P players, since the items you can get for it are nothing compared to what spenders use. And since F2P will never be able to win from lvl 9 mines, I see this as another failed implementation. This game makes no sense anymore in so many ways.

[gritty sluice]

Do u think this game made for f2p? 👀

[chrome cliff]

When it started, yes.

But that's not what I said.

I said that the mining of crystals was a way for F2P to get some tempest material because it's pretty useless for spenders.

[tardy night]

no f2p is at level 9 mines I would think. Requires high migo ranking in sotf/svs to have it unlocked rn without purchases.

[stable cosmos]

They won't do anything to matching, they never have. Load of tosh by them. Itll be same as always, or worse

[wide wraith]

So has Koth been fixed or is it still broken, As per usual nothing has been mentioned about it, time to fire the CMs who definately are not doing their jobs, we should have been told before the next one starts

[hardy cargo]

I have a pretty decent f2p P9 account and can't even beat lv.6 mine

[tardy night]

such wonderous algos they use.

[vale yoke]

I think ours is the closest match in our bracket, with only like 1k or 2k separating our score from both our opponents.

[tardy night]

KoTH is a numbers based event, no clue why that isn't a factor at all. what's a team with 1 active registered player even doing against other teams with 25/24 registered.

[wide wraith]

thats if it actually works, i hear the 3am one, no one could get into

[vale yoke]

It's ridiculous. The bugs rooms are rife with game connection issues and KotH not letting them in.

Idk about the rest of you, but I'm just so happy the devs have slowed down for us. I mean, on top of KotH, it would be a real shame if we had a collaboration until the beginning of January alongside a new generation release, a new world event, a two-week Christmas event beginning Wednesday, and then all of the standard events and features day to day/week to week.
Man, if they hadn't slowed down, I would feel very overwhelmed.

[wide wraith]

they can stick the Christmas event where the sun doesnt shine

[faint flint]

I persume that was the event based one. All the players must have gone to the shell alliance for SvS so could not register for KOTH. Happens to us as well. As the brackets are based on alliance strength in normal peace time.

[vale yoke]

I'm actually looking forward to rain of Riches, but the rest... Meh.

[wide wraith]

true the rest probably wont work anyway

[vale yoke]

It will be good to save up stuff for me, but otherwise nothing I'm gonna go too hard with. Just another festival event. Overpriced swag, half-bugged features, false competition over pixels.

[vale yoke]

All truth, no lies detected

[tardy night]

Explains only 1 of the matches. Most others are the same difference in BP.

BP alone isn't a predictor, but it will generally positively correlate to a decent number of spenders, which helps in the event.

And these others aren't bottom rankers. These are teams at the top of the leagues in our group.

[tame lintel]

Lol. The fact they match before the teams are selected from each alliance...is hilarious..

We use a super alliance for svs. So don't play koth muxh. Always sending a few vs full teams. 🤣

[tropic echo]

Preach sister Preach, we have ir so easy now with the slowing down

[vale yoke]

I'm so excited for Bloodsport week, because it's going to be so calm.

[tame lintel]

Feedback:. Can they stop "slowing down".. it was easier before they started😅

[vale yoke]

If malicious compliance was a company...

[tropic echo]

I am excited to not bubble for events and get zeroed so I can gather mines

Come on , they could have released 10 heroes in a month, it is only 7

[vale yoke]

So relaxing

[tropic echo]

7 is doable and only a few thousands each

I do like how feeding frenzy us just 1 match for migo

Look a zombie , I forgot how zombies look like on sos😆

[vale yoke]

If they have to include it in a world event, then I do like that, yes. That's better than forcing people to either do it or pass it with tokens.

Hang on, more coffee needed. I work in a few hours and will be missing KotH in the name of unchecked capitalism.

Oh frack. Next KotH battle is 24 December. Well that's gonna be fun.

Happy KotHmas, I guess

[tropic echo]

Can't wait

[vagrant parrot]

😂

[tropic echo]

Glad u laughed cause I don't know if ro laugh or cry from now

They might remove 5 points and say fixed it

[vagrant parrot]

First they butchered the event then they plan to improve it, what a bunch of jokers

[vale yoke]

I got distracted by a raindrop on the middle of my phone screen and forgot what I was saying.

[vagrant parrot]

😂

[vagrant parrot]

you might wanted to say sos full of bugs 😏

[vale yoke]

#justSoSthings

[vagrant lance]

Everytime I see they optimize anything, I crinch my teeth. Probably optimized KotH for 3utc too

[wide wraith]

note to Devs we the players dont want Optimization of TD we want it gone

Why do the Devs never listen to the players, could it be that the incompetent CMs are never here to report back how the majority of players thoughts

[violet pebble]

How to get this gold coins?

Ive spent 80 lucky dice but nothing I've received

Another bug again? 🤔

Oh sorry i found where to get them

[digital glacier]

It would be RR.
Rest Relax mas

[vale yoke]

My calendar has KotH on Christmas Eve and Raid on New Year's Eve 🙃

[digital glacier]

Wait. KOH this week, rr next week?

[vale yoke]

Yep

KotH today, raid, KotH (Christmas Eve), raid (nye)

[digital glacier]

Yup. That's right. 5,000 events a month. 🙈 I had a stupid moment 🙈

Also. It's Sunday morning, I shouldn't be awake, but here I am. Not enough caffeine nicotine in my blood yet. 🙈

Later today, when there's not enough blood in my caffeine nicotine veins, it will be just right 🤣😋😜

[tame lintel]

5000 events?

Maybe pack offers.
This game is boring. There arnt enough real events. And zero good ones anymore, due to the "wonderful" performance and "optimizations" of what the devs put out..

The stat divide is nothing when compared to how bad the actual gameplay has gotten...

[faint flint]

As far as I read here, not 1 person has said that Throwdown is a good event now. They all said it’s worse than the previous one that was the worst ever event then. I personally would be happy to see the back of it.

All tasks are now based on using material to get anything. Which means less chance to score on SvS preps or sotf. People only have so much they can invest in events

[inner kettle]

KOTH removing assigned rulers for anyone else?

[faint flint]

Yes. We keep having to reassign as rulers are cleared after a few minutes.

[inner kettle]

Oh good I’m not slowly going insane from this game 😅

[rustic geode]

only with money🤑

[still tapir]

Oh how I love how KotH becomes a glitchy, lagging mess in the final 5 minutes. It becomes impossible to play.

[rustic geode]

i always run out of food at the end😅

[terse agate]

No, it’s because the money is more important then the players…..
Which, as a company’s point of view, is quite logical.
However, no players = no money…
The brilliant updates and features the are so thrilled about, hunted out more players then ever.
The stupid choices of the cross gen states as well….
FP can’t seem to understand it.

And I think the cm’s resigned or got fired, I don’t see them around anymore

[brave tinsel]

@spice saffron
You are aware the only reason KOTH matching is so scuffed right now is due to Legion 1 being apart of the tournament going on?

[tardy night]

They been instructed to hide and bide the time till revenue numbers are out.

Usual CM schtick for f+ games.

The oldest CM barely even ever replied for entire years. Maintained a mod army to do his bidding.

If you go there, you will see his replies years apart, except for announcing company posts and chatting lol

Only communicating via DMs cuz easier to hide and play favorites there

[tropic echo]

Anyone else can't switch to their fun plus ID?

I have not been able to log on to it for hours

[wide wraith]

a similar thing happened last year with CMs disappearing for weeks on end

[gritty sluice]

Bc of the koth bug, what do u think the worthy compensation? Just curious innocent question

[terse agate]

That was a few months back, when people didn’t get their troops lost in AD back.
Since then they never really returned.

Was due to a national holiday

[wide wraith]

they probably got fired, since FP took back overall control and basically killed off KG

notice also how Mods are not on as much

[terse agate]

Basically, since FP doesn’t care about the players, easiest way to save money is by firing the cm’s….
Tbf they hardly managed the community 🤣🤣

[terse agate]

Mods are just volunteers….

[wide wraith]

true but they get packs for volunteering

[terse agate]

I don’t expect that would be a lot tho…..
I don’t think I would it for the packs🤣😂

[wide wraith]

close to the same as we all got for state merges every week

[solemn gulch]

daily reminder for people still complaining here
"bugs doesn't make game lose money won't be fixed"

[mighty gorge]

Is it just me, but in KotH, not only does it feel like the marches are slower, but the speedups, speed up less

[echo pulsar]

why on earth would mods be on any more often? its just ten of you having an endless rant here and anyone who disagrees with you is attacked and any mod that interrupts is just told how useless they are

[vagrant lance]

Mods get packs to give people writing here a feeling their concerns are being listened to (which they are not) by making feedback claims to be upvoted. At the same time, mods act as a FP human shield that takes the hit, and you can’t really do anything else, and they are volunteer-based ”fellow players” like us.

Mods’ job is to keep up the good spirit, not to say a bad word of FP, and push any feedback through, no matter if it is relevant or not. This overwhelms the total amount of feedbacks, and the upvoting is futile. It does nothing for the suggestion to go through or to be succesful.

You can see the mods list the island as a success of the feedback, as well as most likely the Ray’s place change as the latest. Most successes, however, are no-brainers or bug-fixes.

The whole mod thing is actually quite intelligent move from FP, I have to say. They have their handbook answers: ”I understand you” ”As a fellow player, I am frustrated too” ”Do you want this for a feedback so people can upvote it”. And player base cannot be angry at them as they decide nothing and dont really have anything they can be held accountable.

So in short, give the players a feeling of being heard or listened to.

[tardy night]

If the active community didn't feel the same, f+ wouldn't need an army of ok bots to drown the noise. Lmao.

Or manipulate the polls.

Or buy ratings.

Or be in whale DMs with exclusive offers begging to spend

"ten"

How blind is this guy 😂

[gritty sluice]

"pretty good, great time killer"

[digital glacier]

Troop drill - auto assign feature needs to be reworked a little but.

1. It doesn't claim then assign
2. Auto assign, assigns in order based on pints value of the target. If infantry reach maximum level 15, while riders and/or hunters are not at maximum level, if all have the same points value, it will assign to infantry (which is unnecessarily delaying reaching maximum level for riders and/or hunters)
3. Instead of the stupid part that gives you a storyline based on applying your "tickets" to certain sections, just give us the rewards for claiming a certain number to begin with. Have the story line auto unlock based on reaching a specific number of tasks completed.

[digital glacier]

More stars = more optimizations
🙄
😂🤣

Umm. We get enough optimizations as it is 🙈
We don't need more.
Please, if you hate sos definition of "optimization" please, downrade your star rating (if possible) on app stores feedback rating system please 🙏🙏🙏

[digital glacier]

Mods are pretty useless. It's not their fault though mostly. They have to have a professional appearance, and aren't given the power to do much more than basically tell you where and how to submit feedback. Bug reports, etc 😂 there's tons of players who help other players more than mods help players with game stuff.

So, in that aspect, them as a mod being helpful isn't really much when you think about it.

What do they do? Compile some feedbacks, tell us to vote on topics? 🙄 And I'm not talking the amods, dlmods, guide team mods, I'm talking basic mod.
There's really not much more they do than the average player.

I know several players who do more than most mods do, including all levels of mod 😂

[peak apex]

but they don’t zero people like I do

It’s a shame those saying we don’t do much don’t actually go through #💗︱moderator-application cause only then will you have a fully informed voice as to all the things we do

[digital glacier]

Also, you say mods are attacked, well, asking a veteran, everyday user like groot, Chek da spam, lisa myself, - "have you submitted the complaints or feedbacks in game?" on a topic that's been complained about for over a year, is kind of insulting.
First of all, we get they're just trying to do their job, but that's like asking a math genius if he knows what 1+1=? Some things just don't need to be asked or said. And personally. Some times I feel like It's like only way a mod can toll players. But if players troll other players, they get put in a time out.

We understand if it's been this long, it probably won't be fixed, but we still like to try.

[patent olive]

I cant wait F2P using Light of Survivors

[steel musk]

actully devs don't care about players feedback.. who write bug report or feedback report, they waste their time

[peak apex]

I really wanna ask you to raise that as feedback Mufasa, but I won’t

[digital glacier]

Regular Greenie, vs dlmod, gmod, etc, there's a difference.

Or, tealy 🤔 this month

[steel musk]

do you think they will do this and focus on fix bugs only and manage states well

[digital glacier]

Also, I wouldn't last long as a mod even if I tried 🤣🤣🤣
To much extra rules to follow and extra time needed for such low pay

[peak apex]

Eh in some respects , we do have mods that go over and above and sleep less than I do, mod team will never be able to force the devs to implement all the changes we and the entire player base want

[digital glacier]

And they get a bonus bundle for that

[peak apex]

It’s a thankless task but I don’t do it for any kind of reward, I figure why not spend the rest of my free time outside of working and being yelled at to come here and be yelled at

[steel musk]

there only 1 thing which could make devs care about our feedback

[digital glacier]

The feedback of, $

[peak apex]

Not entirely, I can’t go through the ins and outs of it but a lot of mods do go well over and above for no kind of reward other than they want to

[steel musk]

why mods work for them if they don't pay to them 🤔

[digital glacier]

They get comp but who knows how little these days. 🤣

[peak apex]

We don’t “work” for them, most of us do this to try and have an impact on player base voice

[steel musk]

It's sounds like a work

[digital glacier]

That "trying" ain't really working 😂

[steel musk]

I mean most of you all here more than 10 hours..

[peak apex]

It’s better than not doing anything at all, I remember 0 changes before now we get .1 % changes

[peak apex]

Some a lot more

[steel musk]

yep..
Then why they pay to customer support and not to mods..
tbh customer support in this game, they are useless

[peak apex]

It’s more than just being a “shield for devs” as some may think, a lot of our time is spent helping players with various different things, some things we can help guide a player to fix, some things unfortunately we have to refer to cs but there’s lots more things we do

[steel musk]

or they bots lol

[peak apex]

I don’t disagree with you here, if we had the tools to be able to be customer service in game I think it may be completely different

[steel musk]

which tools?!
customer support doing nothing in this game

[peak apex]

I mean like all the things cs have access too

Although I don’t think I’d be allowed to tell everyone I’ll zero them if I was

[steel musk]

zero me lol

[peak apex]

[digital glacier]

If mods were cs.
this would be a whole different ballgame.
I'd definitely apply.
But until then. No thanks.

[peak apex]

I hear you Mufasa, it’s not for everyone 😅

[vagrant lance]

In all honesty, and I mean no disrespect, there are much better places to get in-game help with true knowledge and testing than here

[peak apex]

Again I don’t disagree, there are many people who have a massive in depth understanding and knowledge of the game are absolutely awesome and really do a lot for the community

[digital glacier]

I make plenty of my own sos stuff, know more than most about this game, the problems and issues and how to fix them for most, and I do help quite a bit, but id rather not have the "required time and extra rules" for compensation to be a basic mod. And last I knew, you can't apply directly to be in a specific department. So.. I'll sticl to doing what I do.

[vagrant lance]

Venting here. That is ok. Feedback getting changes in game? Nah, even a blind chicken find a seed every once in a while

[digital glacier]

Also. I know some history of a few management issues. And I don't like favoritism.

[steel musk]

it's same work.. some mods spend more than 10 hours here.. if i was mod and they don't pay to me, i will leave it, next day....

"help players " not reason to work free for a company it's exploitation

[peak apex]

It does some changes but devs change it off the back of the feedback in some wildly not even close way

[digital glacier]

I don't play favorites, and I'm never anyone's favorite 🤣

[tardy night]

We know what mods do, we also know what mods could do if literally the hundreds of feedbacks regarding changes in mod support were facilitated by f+ which they steadfastly refuse because all mods are useful for them is content moderation and as temporary unpaid cs.

How many of you even get told of upcoming updates to be able to make charts for them? It's a basic role description that f+ doesn't provide any info for. How long was that requested? I can tell you. Before SoS existed, for 3 years.

How many of you can extend a mute on a farm/alt of a known offender? How long was that requested ? What about temporary bans for players for anything that's actually offensive and not just the dumb refunds that f- cares for?

[peak apex]

You’re not my favourite when you start talking maths

[steel musk]

Time out him

[tardy night]

Even basic game info training - still not a part of mod classes. Yeah?

[peak apex]

Again here, the temporary ban thing is something that we really wished they would look more into, you and I both know Chek that some states really suffer, and we’re limited as mods

[peak apex]

#💗︱moderator-application

[digital glacier]

Here, no maths ( numbers anyhow) Still not fixed. Been over a month

[peak apex]

Yep, I reported this personally to with your explanation

[steel musk]

Devs more busy add tanks to a game.. will fix bugs later

[digital glacier]

False advertising. If you look at resonating heroes descriptions.

[peak apex]

That’s optimistic

[digital glacier]

You know that's against all app store policies

And illegal in most countries

[peak apex]

That’s an issue way above my head, personally if I was aware of something that broke an App Store policy id take that to the App Store for them to investigate

[steel musk]

I don't expect devs fix bugs

some still play just for chat.. mostly don't care about events

[peak apex]

Fix a bug, create two more in its place

[digital glacier]

Fix a bug in mm
Bug gets added to svs
New bug gets added to KOH

Yup, bug fixed. 😂

[vagrant lance]

The thing is, even decent customer support would get things very far, as in f+ owning up to their own mistakes. For example, KotH today was not customer internet connection issue

[steel musk]

like MM, every time they say they fixed it, but we get another bugs lol

[peak apex]

Wait… they fixed an mm bug? I musta been sleeping for that

[vagrant lance]

They said they were burning midnight oil even. Must have run short though with that oil

[peak apex]

Yeah when it impacts that many I think it’s pretty clear it’s not a “user error”

[steel musk]

last bug was can't move to R5 final

[peak apex]

There’s been alot of bugs with mm, which is really sad cause that could be a pretty epic event if matchmaking was good and no bugs

[digital glacier]

Probably put massage oil in an oil lantern

[slender merlin]

@digital glacier so the formula that allows defending settlement to use only certain % of troops each round depending on number of troops attacker sends is still in game?

[digital glacier]

Yes, they fixed a bug that appeared 1% of the time 😂

[unreal lichen]

Nice matching

[peak apex]

Go figure that’s prob why there’s more bugs showing

[steel musk]

almost balanced

[unreal lichen]

close one

[digital glacier]

What are you talking about?

[steel musk]

If they took green team out lol

[peak apex]

Reminds me of that “looks fine to me gif” don’t post it here tho

[unreal lichen]

lmao

[digital glacier]

Definitely looks like red team stuck 😂

[spice saffron]

Just to clarify, Legion 2 is just regular KOTH?

[steel musk]

i think so

[slender merlin]

√(number of attacking type of troops) × √(min(I+R+H of the attacker;I+R+H of the defender) apparently this formula is used to calculate how many troops of defender will deal damage each round, meaning that no matter how many troops we have in settlement only certain % will fight and deal damage each round, rest remains idle.

[digital glacier]

Green team missing a building 🙈

[steel musk]

will open after few time.. didn't open yet

still stage 1

even if red and blue team work together vs green team.. they won't win lol

[digital glacier]

Maybe. Idk. One easy way to test this.
Play normal trap and let me know if the damage tanks when your rally troops is more than the traps remaining health 🤣

[digital glacier]

Then why is blue teams side also not have a grey building 🤣
I seen stage 1. Was a joke. Display color on map. Not accurate 🤣

And red 🤔

The center of mini map looks like the stage 3 building. So makes sense it's grey 😋

Just saying.

[steel musk]

blue team have 0 points

[digital glacier]

But, they'll probably fix that display issue before real bugs.

[steel musk]

green team almost took all buldings at beginning

[digital glacier]

Yup, blue team ain't even getting points for their starting base.

Must be a cool new feature. Attack the starting point.

I couldn't do this today, I had 3 marches in each of the 3 lines out of blue teams base today too 🤣

Would be fun if we could tbh. Attack the starting base.

... I bet on blue team to win KOH today.....

I attacked the wrong team 🙈

[steel musk]

could set around it lol

[digital glacier]

So I lose my bet 🙈

[digital glacier]

I did sit around it 🤣

🤣

After like 5 minutes it got hard to keep getting that march to the far side. So I kept one line closed and killed green. Then after 5 or 10 more minutes. My march wasn't fighting anyone. So I left and went to kill green with all 3 of my marches. Then it became lot of slaughter for them 🤣

[unreal lichen]

Anyone have a link to the form I need to fill to seperate 2 characters on same account to 2 different accounts?

[digital glacier]

In game

[unreal lichen]

You can do this via an email to customer service or an in game ticket

[digital glacier]

Separate character

Make a new account
Get the bind method for the new account. (maybe the player ID for the new account also)
You'll need to give them that for them to split your characters

They'll tell you what to do. After that.

[unreal lichen]

And to add just be very clear with what exactly you're trying to do.

aha, thanks

I have a 975M BP 2nd character on same account and I can't use it in MM or do dailies at the same time with my main on PC, is that a valid reason to ask for this?

[digital glacier]

Yes, simple words...

[digital glacier]

You can, but it's not easy to be on both same time 🤣

[unreal lichen]

I'm already playing them at the same time in RR for months, switching back and forth 😄 I can easily handle on PC both of them 🤣

[digital glacier]

No, I mean, have both online at the same time...

Not easy, but possible 😋

[unreal lichen]

🤘

[digital glacier]

If you want to give it a try, until cs separates your stuff, log into one. Then on other device / emulator / pc / phone... Log into same account.

When it loaded, swap character, and on other device, click reload or whatever button it is 🤣

It all depends on loading speed of your devices, when you click that "relogin" button.

Once you get it down pat. It's pretty easy 😋

[unreal lichen]

oh I didn't know that would work

[digital glacier]

It's not easy... But it does work 🤣
Takes me about 2 minutes to get it to work for me...

Between me being lazy, not trusting cs, still actually care about my alt, etc etc. I haven't asked cs to separate my characters 🤣

Maybe once or hours the 1b milestone, I'll ask them 🤔
And hope they don't move my main off, because it's my main Gmail and bound to fp 🤣

Would be a nightmare for me

[unreal lichen]

🤣

[tepid rivet]

New level reached. Censor is a joke

In and out is apparently bad

Should I stop breathing now cause it's offensive

[normal peak]

Yeah games censors in and out

[austere pewter]

Thought they stopped that lol

[normal peak]

Communists don’t like naughty undertones

[digital glacier]

No 🤣

[austere pewter]

Myb my phone got to sloe during the end, I have new one now I might try it

Slow*

[digital glacier]

I did it 3 days ago. So. As of 3 days ago. It worked

[austere pewter]

So is splitting accounts actually possible just out of interest?

[wide wraith]

i split my 3 accounts only because its not worth going through CS to do it

[unreal lichen]

Thanks for this I'll look into it and pass it up the chain

[normal void]

Can someone explain me how the glory rank works in Migo please! I have done all event to 100% and my glory rank is low. I have more than 410.000 bolts. And iam on rank 115

[wide wraith]

even the Devs dont know how it works lol

[unreal lichen]

Completion of the exercises and tasks in the building award points

Beyond that, some events have a secondary ranking

It’s not always clear which ones

this last round has also been particularly fractious with determining ranking

[wide wraith]

Alliance Duels is a secondary event,

[normal void]

So my bolts that I collected don't give me the glory rank?

[unreal lichen]

it would also stand to reason that people will rank higher for completing the tasks sooner

Although I haven’t tested this myself

[normal void]

I have more than 415.000

[unreal lichen]

but analogous situation exist

[unreal lichen]

Loose correlation, but doesn’t seem to be the entire picture

With so many people making 100% completion there has to be mechanisms in place to separate out the rankings

People here are doing a good job trying to derive it, but it’s still remains fairly ambiguous

[tepid rivet]

So it's lottery like everything else in game nowadays

Breathe ** *** *** and yolo

To say it with censor

[crystal iron]

@tepid rivet

[tepid rivet]

@crystal iron

[rustic geode]

Xi Jinping is also a censored word... i wonder who odered that... 🤔 🤣

Winnie Puuh not... that was a mistake. 😋

[stable anvil]

This here is annoying and needs to be dropped somehow. Takes up the whole top left of the screen

[little cloak]

Hi there, you can always try and make it into feedback using the proper format on #📋︱feedback-reporting

If you need any help, just let me know more than welcome to do so

[solid oriole]

Return price of plasma and plane formation system components back as it was before - 6 pearls for 14 plasma and 10 pearls for 3 plane formation system components.
About plane formation - it's price already extremly high for the number of stuff we need to upgrate it. It never appears in other events (i can't count 15 comoponents in random events as possible way to get them). So this is the only way for f2p to get them, and you increase price even though it's already extremely high as it's now is the only way to get them.

i never though i will meet price increasing not only in irl shops, but also in game shops

and crystals too. it was 6 pearls for 5 before

[lavish heron]

KOTH is such a stupid event. Even the rewards are trash… why would someone in the third bracket get a reward better than someone in the first bracket??

[hardy cargo]

Before 1 plasma costed 2.(3) pearls, now it's 2.125, so it's actually cheaper.

[solid oriole]

for 48 pearls you could buy before 8 times per 14, so it's 112 plsma for 48 perls. and now 6 times per 17, so only 102 plasma per 48 peals. Cheaper? Math can't agree with you.

[vagrant parrot]

nothing is good in this game, just the people are

[unreal lichen]

Did they intend for crystal mines to be so hard?

1B p9 can’t gather a level 7 mine…

[lavish heron]

Nothing… this just weakens me cause what’s the point of trying to get into upper bracket if second and third bracket get better rewards than second and third in upper bracket??

[hardy cargo]

LOL, I am dumb. I got it the other way around. You are right. Before you could buy 2.(3) plasma for 1 pearl, now only 2.125

Sorry for the confusion. My bad.

[hardy cargo]

I have the same problem. Lv.5 is max I can beat. I'm unamused by the fact that I wasted MIGO parts for unlocking lv.7 mines I can't even occupy. 😐

[solid oriole]

with new cheaper plasma in pearls shop you can win them faster (sorry, it's a joke, I saw your answer)

[hardy cargo]

And a good one, too. 😌

[lavish heron]

Excluding doing migo tasks, please who else knows the other ways of getting those migo glory points??

I see people who didn’t rank top in svs or CC and they have rank 1-5 in migo rankings

[finite zodiac]

Why does this bundle say 2500 bio but it only gives 1500 for top-up?
Am I the only one?

[lavish heron]

It gives 1500 not 2500… the amount for 1500 is 299 and 499 for 2500

But yeah… sos definitely gives wrong info

[shell stump]

When was SOS gonna tell me they used me for an event? 🤣

[lavish heron]

Wait… isn’t that you??

[solid oriole]

in this days servants have salary... but you don't have salary, and even more - you have to pay to them for being servant

[stable cosmos]

They HAVE a chef. Wonder if they licensed ramsays image. I'm betting no.

[acoustic hound]

what if hes called Gardon Ramsee now

i want to be called an idiot sandwich for making a catastrophic recipe

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew / @gray dragon When will the correct SOTF cross ranking rewards be issued to players.

You can't just use 4 imaginary states in SOTF as an excuse for this and have it go unnoticed for a whole week. It's dumb and even an achievement by your standards.

[dusk blaze]

Hey there, I suggest that you put this in #📋︱feedback-reporting using the correct format (which can be found in #📋︱feedback-how-to ). If you are experiencing any issues with doing this, let me know!

[dusk blaze]

Hello, if you have any ideas on what rewards might seem better make sure to include it in a post using the correct format in the #📋︱feedback-reporting channel. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out.

[solid oriole]

i hope someone else will do it, because i will not. I know it's useless anyway to give such feedback

i came here just to let some people know and look carefully what they buy and with which price

[dusk blaze]

I can do it for you if you would like. Do you have anything more you would like me to include? I’ll also need your state number

[solid oriole]

597 state number. If you will do it, than thank you. maybe more people will see it there

[dusk blaze]

I will get it done as soon as possible

[solid oriole]

last time i saw saberlot ansswer was day before they distributed wrong sotf points.

[pallid willow]

Not even that, most people only fake being nice but they aren’t really

[pallid willow]

Ty tho i personally didn’t notice they increase the price 😒 these dum dum devs

[dusk blaze]

It’s now posted so feel free to hit the 🔼 in the channel

[solid oriole]

please add about crystals too. from 6 to 10

[solid oriole]

here

[dusk blaze]

Ah yes sorry I missed that part.

I’m going to repost it as discord didn’t upload the screenshots one minute

[solid oriole]

thank you for your hard work

[dusk blaze]

No worries! Reposted.

[vagrant parrot]

is that your Dog?

it looks very cute

[dusk blaze]

I wish it was! It is indeed very cute

[lavish heron]

Can anyone explain how else to get this migo glory points excluding migo tasks?? I see people who. Didn’t perform well in events ranking high

[loud condor]

I'm curious if those who got transferred to older state got some kind of compensation.

[vague shoal]

They fixed throwdown somewhat! Tiers much better, gold fists back ☺️

[stable cosmos]

15000 points solo. The stupid tasks better be worth twice what they used to be

Wait. 3 times.

[untold stag]

Over a million for 240 point....WTF?!

[stable cosmos]

The golden fist is 450 points. 20 more than before for a target over 3 times what it used to be

10 golden fists would have got me to all targets under old throwdown. Now i need 33

My math isn't good, will check that and correct

[wooden dew]

Hi Azayji, the only other way to acquire the Migo glory currency outside of ranking high in all of the respective leaderboards would be through Treasure Quest and or via Seasonal Badges. With the former, one has a 12% chance of getting Migo glory when using the precision chips. With the latter, getting the strategic mastermind badge will award one 300 Migo glory points. Both of these alternate sources of Migo glory points will require spending (the badge being the more expensive option), so they’re not exactly F2P-friendly. The treasure quest would be one’s best bet to get some extra glory points though, over the course of the world event. Hope that helps!

[tropic echo]

Look at how much troops you need,iaccepted as normal and thought if was a bug tilli clicked it

What madness is the devs really on?

[lavish heron]

Yes it helps… I was just worried that after everything I did in CC and SVS to finish so high, someone who didn’t even do anything or finish top 50 is number 1 with 500 migo glory

[lavish heron]

Train your troops 3-4 times and you should reach that. Depends on your level tho

[tropic echo]

Not the point , the point is it is over 3 times harder

[lavish heron]

Yeah.. I know.. you know they can never give us what we want without making a twist.

It’s just sos way

[tropic echo]

Espically since they said it is now easily obtainable

[shell monolith]

time to spend money to complete one stupid fist 😆

[tropic echo]

Posted the same thing sos drinks some serious stupid juice

[lavish heron]

Where you see 860k?? Mine is 1.7m

[shell monolith]

wtf

[pallid willow]

Im sure 1000% whoever responsible of these td changes does play the game and it can never get training tasks so got so annoyed that screw everyone up

[tropic echo]

And have the audacity according to feedback we are changing throwdown...should be changed td from a pile of tata to a huge pile of tata

[pallid willow]

Must be depending on state age or some crap

[lavish heron]

Going to check my older state… give me a sec

[tropic echo]

I am 183

[untold stag]

To max MIGO points you need 7,500 points in TD. Considering how low these points are, it will be a chore for plenty of people.

[lavish heron]

Why the purple give more points than the golden and the golden has more requirements than the purple

[tropic echo]

State age is stupid , anyone with half a brain will know activity matters more

[tropic echo]

Exclusive

Still stupid

[lavish heron]

They are both exclusive

[austere pewter]

One isn't

The golden

[tropic echo]

Exclusive always gives lots more points than any regular

[dense lance]

you can also see the little "200%" on the purple one, showing it gives double points for a purple fist

[lavish heron]

Yeah I think. This is another older state of mine and it’s different

1.8m here for this older state

1.7m for the newer one

[austere pewter]

Still a normal quest

[lavish heron]

That’s not what I’m talking about

[tropic echo]

He is referring to something else

That the points are different

[austere pewter]

Depend on grade of your throwdown myb?

[lavish heron]

That’s another point… brb. Lemme check another account in same state but higher level

[tropic echo]

We think state age,we are not champions and require over a millin

[tame jackal]

fun

[tropic echo]

Anyway let me get my reset dailies over with

So blasted depressing

[dense lance]

do you have any purple fists on the champion state?

@lavish heron

on 658 I'm seeing 1090k for a 240 point purple fist at champion

if it's different for the gold fist it's probably different for that too

[lavish heron]

Yes I do

[stable cosmos]

Top left task always gives a bit more.

[dense lance]

that's a non-exclusive one of course

[pallid willow]

Cuz this one purple is the 200% one

Aka not worth it

Rather search for the gold one haha

[lavish heron]

I wanted to test and this is exclusive but doesn’t show the number I have to get. I used speedups just to test it and it didn’t count

[stable cosmos]

But the points for everything else have not been adjusted to match difficulty or solo points target. The math is NOT if requirements are 3 times what they were add 30 points to the task. Thats 💩

[dense lance]

that's 1760k, just doesn't show your progress

[pallid willow]

So same amount as not exclusive?

[pine pendant]

Devs deserve stars to describe them. They said let's make them hate troop training tasks by making 10 for the price of one 😂 or is it maybe one of the interns there who forget to divide by 10

[lavish heron]

Exactly

[versed spruce]

1.8m troop power? Are they insane?

[lavish heron]

This is exclusive

This is not exclusive

Same state but different alliances and level of throwdown

[dense lance]

found a purple fist in an "Expert" alliance in my state and it was also 1090k, so that supports it being the state age and not the alliance rank; both purple fists were 1090k

[pallid willow]

Only good thing is the td points are still reasonable for 7 days i guess

For migo

[wide wraith]

so this is better is it, what planet are the devs on

[lavish heron]

1.6mo

[pine pendant]

More greedy than the new (intern) Devs you die 😂 bring back the generous old Devs who used to give us one task for three events 😁

[lavish heron]

So no one has as high as I do?? 1.8m or 1.7m??

I need a buddy

[stable cosmos]

Wondrous

[versed spruce]

I have 1.820

[wide wraith]

ouch

[lavish heron]

Welcome brother

[lavish heron]

We are the same

[stable cosmos]

That should be worth 1350

[lavish heron]

Yup

But I don’t know why speedups didn’t count for the migo exclusive fist…

[stable cosmos]

Or if they can't be that friendly at minimum 1200

[versed spruce]

1350 is way too low

120k was 430

[lavish heron]

Someone please use your speedups and let us know if it counts the progress

[versed spruce]

1.8m should be a few thousand minimum

[versed spruce]

Troop POWER is not speed ups

[dense lance]

1.82 million BP in T12s would be 8125 T12 troops, just if anybody was wondering

[lavish heron]

When you train your troops and use speedups, it counts

[austere pewter]

I was excited to see they were added it back didn't gues they would make it harder lol

[lavish heron]

It’s sos… they can’t give what we need. Always add a twist

[versed spruce]

Ofc it counts... it counts the power of the troops you trained not the speed ups used

[lavish heron]

That’s what I mean

Use speedups and see if it counts

[solid oriole]

t12 p12 "only " 7369

[lavish heron]

I did for mine and nothing

[tame jackal]

mine level 8/9 is impossible for a f2p to win

[wide wraith]

harder its near impossible, fire whoever thought of it, do they think everyone has the freepacks of the mods, the old streamers and CMs do/did

[solid oriole]

i'l add notice that now speedups in custom tasks are more good than in general pool
but not because they increased points in custom, but they greatly decreased points in general pool
was 2500 speedups for gold 450 points and 1500 for violet 240. and now 4200 for gold, and 2500 for violet

[versed spruce]

Works fine,

[lavish heron]

Is that exclusive??

For the random it works but for exclusive, it didn’t work on mine

[versed spruce]

I am not going to take the exclusive task 900 points is by far not enough for me to spend like 50h of speed ups

Or more

Probably 100h - 150h is more correct lol

[lavish heron]

Thank you 🙏… I thought I replied to this. Got carried away with throwdown

Funny how they put one essence stick as the only prize for first place. Everyone should battle for it

[digital glacier]

What's the alliance amount and solo amount needed for champion tier now?

Expert
15,000 solo
400,000 alliance
4800 migo (this doesn't change)

[solid oriole]

7500 migo, 15000 solo 910.000 alliance

[digital glacier]

Ok. Cool.

5000 plasma instead of 6500 to hit target 🤣

Lol

3000 crystals

[stable cosmos]

7500 hasn't changed. But it is harder to hit now except for the exclusive tasks. Which btw fup. Your f2p players cant keep that up every 2 weeks and even the spenders are going to be limited

[solid oriole]

not really. if i'll do one gold fist per day 900 points, 5650 speedups 665 points, and 380 plasma per 1140 points. so today i will get 2705 points. but other days give less points than first, so it will be achievable, but not without spending extra resources

[stable cosmos]

After so many throwdowns. Wouldn't be able to do more. Top spenders can probably go longer but in the end would also have to spend to continue

I can't be spending 380 plasma a day. Itll vanish

[digital glacier]

Throwdown is 5 days right?

6th for results?

[versed spruce]

6+1

[solid oriole]

6 for playing. 7th fo result

[digital glacier]

Ain't the timer usually 7 days?

Nevermind. Ignore me.

[solid oriole]

no, it's always like this

[stoic elm]

It is thats why i stopped at 7🤣 and it already hurts if i send anything else but the 1st march

[digital glacier]

I was beginning to think they cut a day off 🤣

[solid oriole]

for me (gold monkey, gold2 dino, 3 red gen 15 heroes and lvl6 helicopter) it's hurts even by 1st march on lvl7

more than 3k wounded for each attack

[digital glacier]

So, not spending any bio.
You need max chances and 406 points per task
Buying all 6 a day you need 349 points per task.

[solid oriole]

so 15k wounded per day. not too much, but not little too

[tough arrow]

Make 1,79M troop’s power for only 450 points…. 🙀🙀🙀

[exotic wadi]

Are the odds displayed accurate? 5×10 spins barely got me 10 resonate frags yesterday. At this rate getting level 4 for even just 1 hero is going to be difficult.

[tidal apex]

Cant trust anything this game says... It can be 40+ % chance to get fragment, it can be 4%. It can be changing from pull to pull

[vagrant parrot]

This game just a joke

devs are literally FKng with players

[tidal apex]

Yup, latest Throwdown changes looks as if they are juat testing how many slaps we can take before we all decide to leave the game

[stable cosmos]

Don't see me hitting 7500 on this one either although i could probably do it easily enough with the customs i don't want to use that stuff on junk like throwdown

[exotic wadi]

True, I have completely lost all trust now.

[mighty gorge]

I'm already at 11k points doing it this way, converting plasma to poly and doing speeds.

[tidal apex]

Not gonna bother with math but I think you should be averaging around 46-50 frags per 100 pulls

Since it is above 44% chance to get frags and there is a chance at getting 2, 5,10,50

[tame lintel]

From all my pulls. I'd say average is 5 per 10 pulls.

Get some good ones that are high

And some very low

[exotic wadi]

Not even close to that based on my pulls yesterday.

[tidal apex]

First 2 weeks of Chris free pulls I did not have a single Chris fragment :p

[tame lintel]

There were times I was getting 12 per ten pulls.
I got a 50 once
There were times I was getting 2 or 3. Most was 5-6 I'd say

[vagrant orbit]

How much gold can an Alliance hold?

[tame lintel]

We hold gold?

[mighty gorge]

It's in the FP treasury. They have gold bars on pallets

[exotic wadi]

Swap with you any day. 😭

[loud condor]

Go to your alliance building page

You can see your current and maximum alliance gold coins amount

[tame lintel]

[solid oriole]

i miss allinace crates by gold

[tame lintel]

Show me via screen shot where to look

[solid oriole]

sadly, after merge we merged with state that doesn't have gold

[mighty gorge]

Early states use it to stock the alliance store, but I thought they got rid of it. I guess not

[solid oriole]

where general alliance resources capacity

[loud condor]

Alliance territory, warehouse

[tame lintel]

This guy had me on a hunt. Lol. Ya we don't got that.

[stable cosmos]

This literally didn't work that first week. A lucky saberlot encounter got it fixed

[mighty gorge]

Same states that also don't have towers

[tame lintel]

Ya. I know that one. Crazy how close they all are. Haha. I like my space.

But I didn't know they had alliance gold

[solid oriole]

it's in russian but i hope you can find it by positions

[loud condor]

At minimum dev needs to enable recycling for some td tasks.. some tasks are not doable at all for max players.

[solid oriole]

we have plasma, hero appointment and some other stuff for recycling every TD week

sometimes there's delay with launching recycling, so wait

[loud condor]

All i have for recycling are plasma and hero gears

[solid oriole]

and btw plasma you can just use by making polyplasma

[loud condor]

Yeaah, but what about non plasma day for journey to glory?

[solid oriole]

last throwdown there was no hero gear tasks at all

[loud condor]

And chief gear & badge are point increases. Definitely impossible for max players

[solid oriole]

no

see clearly, this time at least for chef badges you need to spend this one

it's not in recycvling for me though, and i would not recommend to spend it anyway, as it's needed for some events, like with chips

[vagrant parrot]

and you cant recycle them

[tidal apex]

I am not sure it works properly. So far in this new part of the event I had only once one fragment and thats all. Event been running for quite few days, it does not look like 44% chance

[solid oriole]

only if you need ranking or really can't achieve minimal points

[loud condor]

Not available for recycling. And I'm not talking about custom task

[vagrant parrot]

i took that quest, and then found out i can't recycle 😂

[loud condor]

Stupid game designer

[stable anvil]

Why isnt recycle open 24/7 for all the items during TD weeks is just B.S FROM FP

[solid oriole]

i took fist, and than found out that i need a little more troops for it thaat i thought

[tame lintel]

They do it often. Remove the item that gives points.

[stable cosmos]

I did notice the chances seemed off. Also noticed another thing and wish i had more spins available

[stable cosmos]

Think its always. Any time an item is worth points in another event you can't recycle it

[tame lintel]

Sotf seems to allow. Why I said "often". Its not always

Svs does not

[solid oriole]

yeah. to rss 🤣

[tame lintel]

Points. But yup. Lol

[loud condor]

They need to learn that people need week of user services to keep them happy

[solid oriole]

o yeah. you can recycle around 500 chief gear designs.... for 180k points

[loud condor]

To FP, your players need fan service. Giving a little some does not hurt your income and probably make big events even less competitive for your precious spenders.

It's a win win situation.

[solid oriole]

but they need more competitive, so payers will spend more

[tame lintel]

There's red crystals plasma ape frags. Many things. Shhh. Yur wrong. Sorry

[loud condor]

Only idiots keep throwing money for a game that is broken beyond repair and does not care about their players

[solid oriole]

yeah, there is. but not great limit too. for crystals it's 500 or 1000? can't remembber. it's quite a little

[tame lintel]

Nah. Only limit on some. Most of those I just listed have no limit

[solid oriole]

500 crystals is 1 million of points?

if you want high place it's useless

[tame lintel]

Such a small perspective you have.
Good night

[solid oriole]

and for plasma it's even more useless because you can always do polyplasma which can herlp you much more, than rss

only ape frags are good, but even so there was limit on them too

[tame lintel]

Lol

[solid oriole]

500 also if i remember correctly, but it's at least 2.5m points, at least something

[tame lintel]

There is no limit on regular points..
Or x2 points
Only the last section beautiful

Goodnight

[solid oriole]

there was before hero capsules. but it's limited in backpack to current generation

i don't know anyone who can burn gen 16 heroes because don't need them, 🤣

[tame lintel]

Who said anything about heros?

Conversations are easier when you talk about the same thing eh...

[solid oriole]

i'm talking about stuff that can be burned during sotf and gives points. what about you?

[tame lintel]

This isn't feedback...take it to you dad..im done. Night bro

[solid oriole]

i'm just saying that yes, you can, but it gives a little number of points and you will get rss, or even not usefull because you can find better ways to spend such stuff. ofc it can help to get minimal rewards, but will not help for ranking. only a little

[tame lintel]

Your wrong. It actually helps maxed people out quite a bit in rankings. And has for a while.

Obviously there is better return in other places.

But they spend 200k on a game. Think they care?

[solid oriole]

okay. it helps. i agree. for example fore top 1 in my last sotf you had to earn 142m of points. this points from backapack can help you to earn around 5-10 m in total. so it;s good, yes. you need a lot for this 5-10m points, but it will help, of caurse

[tame lintel]

Your wrong on 5-10mill total fyi

[solid oriole]

ok.

in next sotf i will make screenshots and calculate how much you can get if burn all unspendable in other places resourses

[tame lintel]

Have fun. Hope you giggle as much as I am

[solid oriole]

(i will not count plasma, because it can be converted to poly. even if you are maxed it's much better, than rss)

[tame lintel]

That has a max. Count everything

Can only do 100 conversions. That's nothing

[solid oriole]

at least 120. and for it you need 8800 plasma. and maybe more, never checked

[tardy night]

"if the people are starving, let them eat cake"

Comes to mind.

[tame lintel]

What???

[solid oriole]

what is this screenshot for? you have 120 too

40 spins per 10, 20 per 30, 20 per 90 and 40 per 150

[tame lintel]

You keep sideswiping the point.

I started off telling you that ypu were wrong and you can get points that didn't have a max amount.
Then you twisted it to "well you'd only get rss and a small amount of points".
Now your saying you'll count the points.. but not count the max that you can actually obtain.. as you are putting limitations on the count by acting like noone would ever do that. When in fact. People do.

So if you aren't gonna actually continue to talk the same path. And have a valid debate/conversation.. this is pointless.

[solid oriole]

no, i didn't say people never do. read carefully. thogh yes, i said converting plasma is useless. i was wrong. for people who spend for the sake of spending it's usefull... Wrong choosing of words. because i wrote from the point of general people.

[tame lintel]

Lol

Cute

What is "general people"???
😅

"Sake of spending"

Your perceptions are cute

[tame lintel]

And you did say it with this insinuation

[solid oriole]

do you buy plasma for what? for points only. and what for points for you, if all rewards from ranking you just buy. except migo. but fo migo in sotf you need top 10, not top1

[tame lintel]

Plasma comes with other packs hun😉

If you think any whale has bought plasma packs lately.. lol. Meh. Your perceptions are cute

Plasma packs are the worst offer out there. Get way more in other packs

Anyways. Have a good night. I'm really leaving now

[solid oriole]

good night.

[thorny hornet]

i love it. we complain about no gold fist task, so they add it back... old gold fist task was 430 points for 120k bp increase. "improved!" gold fist task is 450 points for 1820k bp increase. 20 extra points for more that 15x increase in the amount of training needed. WHAT A DEAL!!!

[solid oriole]

hah, why i even talked to person from the point of cost-effectivness if he doesn't care about it? I don't think he's wrong to spend money whenever he wants, it's his choice and i don't care about it. it's awesome to not care about money to the point of spending to not cost-effective packs when person can spend money with more effectivness. It means he's really good irl. and it's awesome. But yeah, burning plasma to rss is still bad choice for 90% of players

[solid oriole]

"whales" is less than 10% of players. so yeah, general people are other 90%

[thorny hornet]

The way the devs "listen" to our complaints and "address" them, from adding 1 spin of rays that rarely gives current hero frags, now to this gold fist task that has been ridiculously nerfed, i can only come to the conclusion that they actively hate their players

[solid oriole]

they just want you to pay

[thorny hornet]

i am too good at math to possibly think throwdown is a better use of my resources than sotf or svs, for the amount of rewards received. there is no incentive to pay for throwdown rewards compared to the other events

[stable cosmos]

They'll just change those events to be worse. I'm sorry, optimise those events to be worse. I want them to leave the stuff that works alone these days. Just fix MM and koth please. Optimise those as much as you like.

I'll live with bunker rewards being horrible if it means it still functions as an event

[solid oriole]

but you still need 7500 for migo. though i fist per two days, some othe tasks, and 7500 achievable

[solid oriole]

i still hate them for optmizing mini-events. i got 60-100k bios from mini-events

and now from this path of cencored i got less than 1000 bios per week

[thorny hornet]

old throwdown was a decent source of bios. now it is garbage

people complained, but it was easy to get the highest tier just by doing your exclusive tasks every day

[solid oriole]

but you can spend resourses enough for few top1 in sotf and svs to get 1 gold skill for tempest arms

[tidal apex]

Or instead of spending thousands of $ worth of resources just to "win" one TA skill thingy you can buy it in a pack for fraction of that cost :p

[thorny hornet]

i see that they have "fixed" custom speedup task to give more points per minute of speedup used than regular speedup tasks now, not by increasing the amount custom gives, but by decreasing the amount regular speedup tasks give.

[tidal apex]

Their usual way of fixing stuff, making everything else even worse so it appears as if it was better option 🤣

[solid oriole]

yeah. great change. i like it. But they did what people asked. you can't deny it

[thorny hornet]

meh, in the last 3 years they have gotten $8.00 plus tax from me, and they are not getting any more

[tidal apex]

I am baffled that with all the bugs and problems there are still people spending thousands weekly in here...

[astral tree]

Yes it can be denied. If you read what was put in November feedback we clearly asked for the points needed to be matched to the resources we was using and rewards received. They did not do this

[solid oriole]

too much text. sorry, will never reead it. can you point to exact message?

[tidal apex]

In their minds they are giving us 5 behemoth frags in new throwdown, that alone is worth 10k plasma :p

[astral tree]

Not necessary. You was just saying they did what we asked but you don't know what we asked.....which means you are just being messy. No further dialogue needed.

[thorny hornet]

i especially like the gold frag tasks(excluding generic frags)... since with the advent of limitless, we pretty much can't use gold frag anymore

[solid oriole]

Hah, there was a lot of messages. And people really talked aboot speedups pints, that custom tasks give less speed-ups than general and sked to improve it. they did

[junior bone]

Did anyone else not get their p2w rewards?

[solid oriole]

for example people asked to decrease points requirements. they did? they did. though they deceased possible points from all tasks

but they really decreased points requirements

[thorny hornet]

what are p2w rewards?

[solid oriole]

did it become better? i don't think so

[astral tree]

Even in younger states(I'm in 1204 gen 4) using gold frags is not worth it in throwdown

[junior bone]

I used my shark tickets in the p2w store and I didn’t get the rewards from the store

[solid oriole]

you can convert it to fragments of gen 13-14 generations, or 7-12. for skills. for example, i maxed string's first skill for hero challenges.

[thorny hornet]

i have no spot to convert it. where do you convert it?

[stable cosmos]

The cost benefit analysis for players on throwdown is a net loss. The resources you use do not result in a fair return of items of equal value (not numbers, just value)

[thorny hornet]

found it, never mind

[solid oriole]

i can't show on gen 13, but here

[thorny hornet]

see above

[solid oriole]

and yeah, i think the most cost-effective way to spend hero frags is in throwdown

as it gives no points in svs, and very little points in sotf

other than throwdown there's onlu one mini-event after svs

[zealous plover]

Interesting how pow matching is so perfect now good job 👏

[tame jackal]

If your name in the game is also angelica, maybe that's the problem, they're thinking you have the hero 😆

[umbral epoch]

Hii
I'm sorry you're having trouble with PoW matchmaking.
I'd suggest you to leave us a feedback about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[zealous plover]

Ingame game is Santachu 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tame jackal]

so the problem is matchmaking as always

[stable cosmos]

Ah the never ever to be fixed matchmaking no matter how much the devs lie about it

[pine tree]

lol..yeah lets spend 56,000 min of speedups to complete a mission

[spare summit]

who the fk put an extra 0 behind this stupid training troop task

[strong grove]

Wtf

[astral tree]

Fun plus did that

It's called optimizing

[strong grove]

Pow

[spare summit]

oh wtf troop different

[astral tree]

They also optimized match making

[spare summit]

oh it does now when u saved formation

[strong grove]

T11 vs t12 🤬

[spare summit]

well their method of "improvement"/ "enhance" experience

[strong grove]

M f #u#$c#k#e#r dev

[astral tree]

Here is the optimization formula....if you spend enough to reach top 1 % then they will match you so that you always win. Otherwise you get screwed

[spare summit]

u can still lose though if u get teamed with 4 bad/afk players 🤣

[astral tree]

There is a 1% alliance in my koth bracket. I bet on them every time. 😏

[strong grove]

If I had the money I wouldn't play this event

[astral tree]

Haven't lost a bet yet

[spare summit]

ah stupid koth ...

[astral tree]

There is a easy win system in pow

[spare summit]

we lost yesterday and still rank up such legit

[astral tree]

Unfortunately I can't share it publicly

Then everyone would be doing it

[spare summit]

just to be the punchbag for whale

[strong grove]

Vs t12 😂

[astral tree]

I'm p3 I made platinum 2 with 3 stars last pow.

[strong grove]

F easy

[astral tree]

I'm gold 1 at the start of this one

@spare summit we finished second and also ranked up

Need to get more fodder up there for the spenders to win against

[spare summit]

we ranked 3rd which is last place lol

[strong grove]

They have decided not to support f2p and low spenders. 1 step resident evil. removed fragment ....... see more

[spare summit]

and yeah rank up ...

haha see the stupid xmas event and u gonna hate it more

[astral tree]

They basically said this. Read there solution to the cross gen hero problem

[stable cosmos]

They've never supported f2p. Ever. They didnt 💩 on them quite so much 3 years ago though

[strong grove]

I mean all event

No bonus

[stable cosmos]

And there is a difference between neglect and active maliciousness

[spare summit]

discount on bundles lmao that just means pay up or shut up

[astral tree]

What I'm saying is....all players that got cross gened have a problem building the heros from generations that got skipped. From spenders to free to play. Their solution to this was to put packs at a discount so the most powerful and rally leaders could catch up quickly

[strong grove]

Even those who spend more have a much lower winning percentage in the draw

[astral tree]

Nothing for free to play or low spend even though they also have to face this gap in pow AH and other such events solo without the rally leader

[strong grove]

Dont spend money

[astral tree]

Then you have the free spenders

Those people out there who get free diamonds for creating content for sos

YouTubers and such

[wide wraith]

you mean the ones who are sponsored by 3rd party companies who offer cut price packs which are against TOS anyway?

[astral tree]

No...if you look at this server. The content creators who post stuff there

[strong grove]

Stop spending until the error is corrected. Their customer service support has been suspended

[astral tree]

They get paid in diamonds for that

[wide wraith]

yeah and look who some of them are sponsored by

[strong grove]

😂

[strong grove]

They get paid in tomatoes for that

[astral tree]

If you say so.....been there done that in koa and gog. It's a nice sum if you do it right

[wide wraith]

anyone could create content for this game, its not rocket science,

[astral tree]

That is true. Just sign up to be one and get started

[strong grove]

Today payment bug 😬

[wide wraith]

yeah until one day they message you and say, we have decided to stop supporting outside content a bit like they did with in-game streamers

[astral tree]

Kicks you out when you try to buy?

[strong grove]

200$ lost today 😫

Bug

[wide wraith]

dont worry they will fix that instantly

[strong grove]

This Second time

[astral tree]

I tried to buy the aircraft pack 3 times. Everytime I clicked the purchase button the game closed

Figured they just didn't want my money

[wide wraith]

maybe the game is trying to tell you something

[strong grove]

Their customer service support has been suspended

[wide wraith]

doesnt suprize me, they seem to be distancing themselves from KG

[strong grove]

Stop spending until the bug is corrected.

[wide wraith]

stop spending all together

[vagrant parrot]

this game is dying its clear from so long now

[wide wraith]

i dont think anyone cares anymore

[astral tree]

Lemme look at something real quick

[rotund rover]

I've been hearing that the game is dying and my state is dying for at least 3 years now.
Meaningless phrase. Everything is in the process of dying

[wide wraith]

its the same with any of these mobile games, the problem with sos is they think that they are too big to fail

[rotund rover]

I see evidence of devs' success every time I get rekt by someone in POW with all 3 resident evil heroes with blue frames
$$$$$$$$$ sales

[astral tree]

Yep, the next reskin of this game is already in my app store

[wide wraith]

all they do is reskin the same old tired events, there is no development

[vagrant parrot]

send me name of that game in dm 😄

[astral tree]

Done

[strong grove]

They help f2p people a lot

I mean other Developers

[strong grove]

🤣

[astral tree]

Sos has failed in at least two previous life's already

[wide wraith]

its a tired format, there is no innovation

[astral tree]

Sos was fun at first. But now after just a few months it's gotten old.

[strong grove]

This does not happen in other games.

Only sos

[wide wraith]

yeah it does but they adapt

[astral tree]

I've played this chain since the first game(koa). 4 years was the life span of the first 2

[fleet kestrel]

Hey folks, I know we like to skirt around the rules some, I’ve stayed quiet for a bit and been deleting posts that are not following the server rules., I’m sure you noticed..

As a reminder, let’s keep to them please 🙏

[wide wraith]

as there seems to be no official support here now (no CMs) those outdated rules need to be looked at

[strong grove]

When we ask a question, you don't answer. Blocking when telling the truth

[fleet kestrel]

Outdated or updated? But rules are rules, best part about them is, we all have a choice.

[strong grove]

😡

[fleet kestrel]

Hey Dhana I did Dm you, I don’t block.

[strong grove]

What this

[fleet kestrel]

You are more then welcome to Dm me 💪🏾

[astral tree]

Odd how did she get blocked? I was the one mentioning the unmentionable 🤔

[strong grove]

When we ask something we don't know, there is no one to answer. This kind of thing is done well

[astral tree]

It's a power thing is my guess

[strong grove]

Developer power

[wide wraith]

maybe its time someone who actually is employed by the company was on here not just volunteers who basically although they try to help, have all the influence of a wet paper bag

[astral tree]

They like having authority over others. Even though it's false with no cms or game support they want to keep it

[strong grove]

Dev power

[steel musk]

But sounds rules applies on players only

[fleet kestrel]

Nah just a missed thing. We’ve been watching the discussion for awhile, I’ve removed a few things here and there. But it was the constant skirting. Most of us are laid back, but rules are rules. End of the day, not what you say, but how it’s said

[strong grove]

A bot cannot do this

[fleet kestrel]

Don’t disagree with you on this.

[astral tree]

But it's not gonna happen. They cut out cms

[wide wraith]

it certainly looks that way

[fleet kestrel]

Want to message me on what’s happening? Up to you or post in the related channel.

[astral tree]

It is that way

[strong grove]

Dev

[astral tree]

No cms no customer support

[fleet kestrel]

Cr 7 you can contact any of the CMs if you wish for that answer personally

[astral tree]

They have completely disconnected from sos

[strong grove]

🤑🤑🤑

[astral tree]

I need to contact a cm. How exactly do I do that?

[strong grove]

You cant

😬

[astral tree]

He just said we could

[wide wraith]

maybe if the mods stopped doing the CMs job, like reposting the lies from the reskinners (cant call them devs as their is no development in the game) they would have to actually do something because they no longer pass across the feeling of the players

[strong grove]

Cm is ghost

Money ghost

[astral tree]

I need directions to contact a cm please?

He got busy or something I guess. I'm sure he will give me instructions as soon as he is free again.

[strong grove]

So how is this an official discord ?😬

[placid inlet]

The CMs for SoS are Saberlot and Nanami.

[astral tree]

Ok. How do I contact them?

[wide wraith]

if that is true, why has there been no sight of them for days, if not weeks?

[steel musk]

send message 🤔

[placid inlet]

One sec I’m getting their Discords for you now. You can send them private messages as CR. 7 has said.

Nanami nanamisos

Saberlot is saberlot

[astral tree]

Is that another mad hatter I see typing????

[stable cosmos]

I hate the no other games rule. I don't understand how naming a game when providing a point of comparison to sos is breaking the rules. You are not discussing that game. You aren't advertising it. Its a single line of text saying something else does it differently or the same and that sos could follow or should not follow that example.

The rule itself is trash when the company that probably required it does not participate here

[placid inlet]

I can only speak for myself and no one else regarding presence or schedules.

[astral tree]

he is probably the troublemaker I'm always getting blamed for

[stable cosmos]

We're far enough into the update cycle now that we're annoyed at cm presence or lack of it, again. Done all the major complaining. Been through poor matchmaking. Back to CMs don't show up often enough

[torpid gazelle]

Yupp. I’m a bit of a troublemaker. Just was following the convo on dm-ing people. Since new update on dc I’ve struggled messaging people from servers.

[astral tree]

☝️

[placid inlet]

Yeah the update is obnoxious.

[wide wraith]

we wont see them this week either as its the christmas clone event

[placid inlet]

Tap the 3 lines at the top right and then search from there.

[torpid gazelle]

Oh there it is. Thank you!

[stable cosmos]

We only ever see them, specifically saberlot, on a tuesday 1-2 week after any update. You can sometime get something addressed thats unimportant in the grand scheme of things

[steel musk]

Saberlot somtimes here maybe once in a month

[astral tree]

Ok. It's a permission thing

[static chasm]

You can pm saberlot directly, I usually do that

[astral tree]

She is there but I can't contact

[wide wraith]

going on what happened to the admin of the in-game streamers, its about now they fire the staff etc and replace with other ones

[placid inlet]

Tap on one of those and it will take you to a message from her so that you can tap on her name to DM.

[astral tree]

Her last post was 2 months ago

But I'll try

[strong grove]

"Santa cannot come this time due to a defect in the deer" Dev 🙈

[wide wraith]

air turbulence over the north pole

[steel musk]

It's work right about sides at least .. team shark vs team whale lol

[strong grove]

Pow bad matchmaking

[steel musk]

there many players who playing POW... some invite strong players from another states to make team and win all battles.. if went vs them, will lose..

strong players.. who maxed Monkey and Dino

those who usually make team

[strong grove]

Small Fry vs (shark+whale)

[steel musk]

so matchmaking can't find team like their power to match them with that team.. so they get weak team

if they want fix pow matchmaking, they need make it as last time.. everyone have auto marches.. Sarge, Rusty, etc..
but big spenders will complaint about that..

So devs prefer f2p - mid spenders who complaint lol

[strong grove]

In other games, matching is done on the basis of rank

But sos lol

[steel musk]

if 5 players who maxed everything in 1 team.. how could system find good matchmaking vs them..

so they will keep get easy matchmaking

[strong grove]

I mean solo

[steel musk]

they doing team.. even if you do solo, there chance you go vs them

[strong grove]

No

Enemy always strong

[steel musk]

points? close or big gap?

[strong grove]

5

No kill

Only death

[steel musk]

use support

[strong grove]

😫

[steel musk]

with bomb you could have 4 kills at least.. 🤣
but will still lose lol if other team way stronger

I mean like this matchmaking.. other side they are maxed players

[strong grove]

I played six matches. All six fail miserably

[steel musk]

History battles?

[steel musk]

ss like this

[strong grove]

All t12

😭

T11 vs t12

All high spenders

[steel musk]

you could write feedback about pow matchmaking.. but tbh i don't think devs care..

[strong grove]

💯

[steel musk]

they can fix it by give everyone auto marches without Behemoth so none will invite players, or make strong team, etc .. but they won't

[strong grove]

The situation is getting worse

[strong grove]

Not working

[steel musk]

auto marches? it was during pow summit.. looks some complaint about it lol
not here in dm to devs 🙄

[strong grove]

I tried with gen 1 heroes. But not working

Normal heros

[steel musk]

and i don't really care about pow.. I got bored.. Just doing few battles to get some rewards then i leave it

[steel musk]

not you.. it was auto marches for everyone.. everyone was had same marches

it was selected by system.. players can't change it

[strong grove]

😬 only solo

Without invite

[storm solstice]

Well, you use vanguard... I mean, what's expectations with your power by using vanguard? You play like you have no PoW skill 😅

[steel musk]

to die faster lol

[strong grove]

Before

[storm solstice]

What you try to tell me with that?

[strong grove]

Look t11 vs t12

[storm solstice]

I'm talking about your skill selection

[strong grove]

I tried this when 7 out of 7 failed

[storm solstice]

Again, your skill selection is rubbish.

[strong grove]

Only one tried

[strong grove]

Rubbish?

[storm solstice]

PoW skill...

[strong grove]

What skill?

[strong grove]

Skill doesn't matter when faced with strong opponents, my friend

[steel musk]

strong players usually use vanguard ..

if you use it, you will just die faster and help the enemy team .. no point of use it if you lose

[storm solstice]

Seems like you don't want to atleast make the best out of your position. Fine. Have fun.

[strong grove]

What is the use of any skill a ant has when he has to fight with an elephant?

[strong grove]

No fun

I am afraid to tag you 🙈

"No need to tag me"

🙈

I see you talking for dev

[storm solstice]

🤦‍♂️ Oh boy, can't handle criticism on your gameplay?

[strong grove]

I need explain

[tardy night]

🥲

[strong grove]

You don't tell me anything clearly, you don't even let me tag you

[storm solstice]

I'm not your free personal assistant.

[cloud ridge]

Idiots

[strong grove]

Thanks 😂

What is

😬

[tardy night]

🙄

[crystal iron]

They bully F2P players xD

[strong grove]

😥

[crystal iron]

Another version was better than now, which give more points for F2P

[obtuse gulch]

Mental. That's going to take 3 rounds of troop training on all 3 troop types to complete for 240 points... Also I used an exclusive task first and then the timer reset for 19hours for the next task 😂 I do love sos funny sense of humour

[strong grove]

If anyone has any questions about the game, ask. If I know about it I will let you know

[crystal iron]

the only thing were not even need spend stuff for make points xD

[strong grove]

😬

[crystal iron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[obtuse gulch]

It's also broken I have 2090 points but it's not given me the corresponding rewards 🙄

[storm solstice]

Your alliance has not crossed the needed 90k points

[obtuse gulch]

😭😭😭😭

Never knew that it's never been an issue before.. thank you

Everyday is a school day

[stable cosmos]

I always hated throwdown. Now i really really hate throwdown. Why on earth couldn't they have left the targets the same? The tasks are harder and give less, why are the targets higher? Cos high spenders can complete it in a day with the custom tasks?

[cloud ridge]

They bully anything with a pulse

[strong grove]

😓

[spare summit]

they can complete it even better with the those buy bundle tasks

[storm solstice]

Especially with upcoming Monopoly event.

[strong grove]

Even a big spender. It's easy to buy bundles paid directly without spending on throwdown 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Every new player with an empty backpack should be able to complete every event. Not win. Not rank highly, not even do well but complete. Even if all the targets etc are lower i couldn't see a level 5 hq topping out in this. Or completing sotf.

[strong grove]

😔

[spark wren]

greetings everyone

[spark wren]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message < please upvote this feedback but if you want to write one i can help you with that but i do agree when i saw the troop training task being 1.7m troop power i thought my eyes were playing me 😅

[strong grove]

Thank you 😍

[spark wren]

i agree with you some players in my alliance wasnt able to get the minimum points to get all the points rewards it was too time consuming and they would rather save the items for svs or SOTF 😅 #📋︱feedback-reporting message < i believe this feedback report is similar to what you talked about please upvotes it

[strong grove]

Done

[spark wren]

no problem 🙂

personally i do think thowdown need to go back to where it was before the changes (it was boring/time consuming but it was achievable) with the rewards we get now or even better make it so we get more but that is just a hope

[stable cosmos]

Ah yes. My own feedback. Indeed

[strong grove]

Unrealistic dreams are beautiful

🙈

[elfin ridge]

I understand that changes that we got for throwdown aren't literally those what players expected but I'm happy that thanks to great feedback from all of you it's getting change