tennogen-creation-discussion

[brave wing]

Hey all

i've been modding some other games. and got intersted in giving a shot at making some cosmetics for warframe.

but haven't rly found any models to download or find to work on and use as a base for size and reference

where do you find all this

[celest nest]

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/ here

[brave wing]

I checked all over that site, but i think i'm just blind or something then

[rocky imp]

"Content files and examples"

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=content-files-and-examples

Has a model of every warframe and a model of each weapon type.

[brave wing]

awesome, thx

[rocky imp]

As well as armour and syandana

[rotund sage]

[rotund nova]

Just saw this cool art by an amazing artist and it got me thinking about Gauss deluxe:/

[thick root]

That was indeed one of my main inspirations 😅

[rotund sage]

Oh damn
So itll work then
😆

[cyan crystal]

That Sevagoth tennogen 👀

Please yes? 🤞🏻

[gilded moon]

small question why is the uv maps only getting like 4 faces

[thick root]

You haven't made seams

You gotta cut it up manually

An orange or banana does not peel itself

[gilded moon]

trying but also this happenes cant make mirror right

[celest nest]

But what if banana DID peel itself

[vital axle]

@here
Anyone that could help me get my Warframe account back, I'd appreciate it. I am not spending another month though trying to get it back and I am not starting over so actual help would be nice...ty

[uneven hull]

wrong chat fella

[hybrid portal]

Lol

[rocky imp]

Small preview of a two handed nikana I'm working on. It's a bit bare at the moment, but I'll be working on it more 👀

[hybrid portal]

Advanced grineer machete vibes looks good so far merchant

[rocky imp]

Thanks!

[gilded moon]

so is this okay or what because right know i dont know anything

i only know there is some stretched faces i will fix them

[rocky imp]

It's hard to tell due to the screenshot quality, is there any overlapping islands or anything?

Also not to distract from your question but texture updates 👀

And in a bit of darkness for emissions.

[hybrid portal]

Ooo that would look good with the lavos tennogen

[celest nest]

Azros, maybe you'd like to join another discord server where majority of tennogen artists hang out? They could potentially help you with your helmet

[gilded moon]

there is group for it didnt know that

[celest nest]

Yeah

Let me find an invite

Goddamit

It's set to auto delete invite links

I'll dm it to you

[rotund nova]

wha

pls tell me it was an auto-ban and not something done by a real person

[thick root]

Might be because of the invite link

I think there should have been a warning atleast

[oblique shore]

Message a mod, they might help

[rotund nova]

are we allowed to @ mods?

[oblique shore]

Yes

[rotund nova]

<@&778745217037238293> I think someone or something done goofed here and I would like to humbly request that Vulbjorn#0486 gets unbanned

[obtuse hull]

#modmail

Moderator actions are not usually publicly discussed, use ordis mail please.

[celest nest]

It's ok it, it was a bad dream @thick root

[celest nest]

Or maybe good dream, goodness knows I'm sometimes really tired of myself

[steady furnace]

Hello ! May I ask something : if a Tennogen wasn't accepted, does the artist recieve an explanation for futures modification or not ?
For example , Yatus have made like a lot of concept for tennogen skins. Some of them didn't respect the original body shape the basic frame model ( like ion loki) but what about the Izanagi excalibur Tennogen ? The helmet can be totally different than the basics frame's helmet and his skin shape was the same than classic's excalibur. Do we know why this one wasn't accepted or not ? I'm kinda sad 'cause this skin was totally dope.

[celest nest]

If tennogen wasn't accepted, but could be potentially redone for the next round, artist receives feeback with explanation of what's bad, and what to change. If model is not accepted, and artist does not receive feedback - either the model has so many problems that it must be redone from the ground up, or the style is so incompatible with the game that it needs to be redone

I have some models personally that weren't accepted that DE didn't write anything about to me, and some that they sent feedback, but it was so large that I was like "You know what, I think I'm good". It was pretty much any time I tried to push skin into extreme, and knew full well that I had 50/50 chance of getting it past DE. (like with my Ivara)

[steady furnace]

okay ! thanks for the information

[stoic pebble]

How exactly does tennogen work? I kind of want to try my hand at it but I don’t know what the process is

[celest nest]

We make skins, helmets, weapons, upload them to steam workshop, and at specific times DE does a round, looking at models and accepting ones they like

Sometimes they don't accept

Sometimes they don't...

[stoic pebble]

Gotcha

How do you make the models?

[celest nest]

What's your experience with modeling?

None, beginner, intermediate etc

[stoic pebble]

I started blender like a week ago

So beginner

[celest nest]

Beginner then

[stoic pebble]

Yeah lol

[celest nest]

Well hmmm

Did you make your complimentary donut and anvil yet?

[stoic pebble]

I did like 70% of the donut then got distracted trying to sculpt a head from a different tutorial lol

[celest nest]

You fell into trap 80% of starting modelers fall into

Ok so basically here's what I'd do starting a new skin

[stoic pebble]

I would want to practice a lot more before I try to submit something to tennogen, I was just curious what the process is lol

I still want to go back and finish my donut

[celest nest]

I'd first of all go to Tennogen Help site and pick a model I Wanna make, say warframe

[stoic pebble]

Aight

[celest nest]

Then I unpack it, throw body into fbx into zbrush (blender on your case), and smoothed it out a bit giving it a few subds

Then I would maybe do a concept for helmet and body and start sculpting in kt

[stoic pebble]

Okay so it has files you can modify from?

[celest nest]

Yeah

[stoic pebble]

Oh cool

[celest nest]

But keep in mind that we can make model for helmet BUTT

We can only reskin body

I.e. do not make extrem le deviations from the body base mes, you'll be projecting your high poly onto it

Also, you have Substance Painter?

[stoic pebble]

Idk, does it come with blender?

[celest nest]

Because you really really want Painter for texturing. Invaluable. No it's in steam

It's like 150$ but necessary investment. 100%

[stoic pebble]

Ohh, I’ll look it up

Gotcha

[celest nest]

I can also dragon yiu into a server where other tennogen creators help each other and help learning maybe. Interested?

There's a ton of information there and de is also sometimes present

[stoic pebble]

I’m down.

My main goal is mostly just to get better at 3d modeling and animation

[celest nest]

Yeah you probably should start with lie a sword

[stoic pebble]

Gotcha

[celest nest]

And keep in mind that artstyle is very important and you need to pick a faction and stick to t while working. De does not appreciate mixed faction items, unless it's a faction that can mix with others

Such as infestation. That kinda gives me free reign

[stoic pebble]

Yeah, so like don’t mix corpus and grenieer

[celest nest]

Bad juju

[stoic pebble]

Gotcha

[celest nest]

But you could mix sentient and corpus because they had precendent

[stoic pebble]

Yeah, or infested with whatever ig

[celest nest]

But not tenno anx sentient because we were made to be immune, and not infested and sentient, because infested are full antithesis to them and because h csnnt be controlled nor can infect them

[stoic pebble]

Yeah, makes sense

What about going along or extending weapon families that are already out there, like making another ether weapon or something?

[celest nest]

We cant

[stoic pebble]

Ohh, maybe another heavy scythe would be cool

[rocky imp]

Going to second substance painter, it's really really really powerful and great for textures.

[celest nest]

Check model restrictions.

[rocky imp]

Heavy scythes aren't accepted atm

[stoic pebble]

Gotcha

[celest nest]

You can ONLY produce for melee types that are already therr

Ok sorry my steak has arrived

[stoic pebble]

Yeah, I’ll need to check it out then

[stoic pebble]

lol, have a good one then

[rocky imp]

@stoic pebbleSubstance painter is a pretty pricy investment though.

So I'd suggest making sure you get to grips with UV mapping before buying it.

[celest nest]

Or else you will encur th le wrath of Bad Uv Geenie

Aka me

[stoic pebble]

lol, alright

[karmic prism]

So do you get this feedback after they post the deadline or could it happen at any time?

[lapis oracle]

Any good news? Crossplay updates?

[oblique shore]

We got round 22 part 1

[rotund nova]

this isn't the place to discuss crossplay unless you have questions about how TennoGen will be handled once crossplay/crosssave drops (doesn't mean we have answers tho)

[lapis oracle]

Yeah some good work showcasing!

[celest nest]

Generally speaking feedback is also split into rounds. You can get 1. right after the deadline, telling you that item is acceptable but needs some tweaks. 2. Some time after deadline (like two weeks), telling that item has big flaws, and you should fix them in time for next round, or 3. directly in between rounds where they send mid-round feedback, you have to request it I think, I never used mid round

[rocky imp]

Wait you can request feedback?

[celest nest]

Not before the round ends tho

You can request feedback for next round. Mid process

[rocky imp]

So if I put like "I am very open to feedback" or something in the description is that how? Or is there something else that you need to do?

[celest nest]

I'm not sure because I never speificially requested this mid round feebdack

But some other artists did

[celest nest]

I wonder when we'll be allowed to remodel Sevagoth's SHadow helmet

[gleaming vine]

asking about helmet model; does it have to be one mesh, or it can be multiple meshes on one object?

[celest nest]

it can be multiple

[rotund nova]

Sometimes it even has to be multiple for a fitting design like for Gauss

Xaku and Nidus too since all three have transforming bodies (Redline, The Vast Untime and Mutation)

[celest nest]

yeah, some helmets transform

And some helmets also can get animated (up to DE to choose)

In this case it's better split them to not incur endless wrath of a poor animator sitting in their basement

[gleaming vine]

aight thanks for the info

[fossil yew]

Any news about a tennogen for hyldrin ? I’d love to try a Zarya cosplay but can’t find a good matchup for her

[radiant lodge]

Tennogen are tenno created items. A lot of folks don't announce what frames or styles they are doing until they are ready to submit. So not a lot of news. You could always try your hand at it, if you have inspiration for something.

[celest nest]

It's fun and games if you don't mind sleepless nights

And going bald from obscure retopology issues

[brisk forum]

Hi sorry to butt in but can you loop me into this server too? Would really appreciate it! Thank you!

[celest nest]

Tennogen one? Sure

[gleaming vine]

me too, can i join too?

[celest nest]

Done, it is a more creator/artist oriented server tho

And more oriented towards helping new dedigners

[brisk forum]

Thank you ! Appreciate it!

[gleaming vine]

may i ask to be invited to the tennogen server too?

[celest nest]

I did tho

Let me try again

[gleaming vine]

Now i get the invite

Thank you very much

[celest nest]

Ok enjoy

[rocky imp]

Boldurr set's arms, fists and syandana have been updated. Chests and legs to do next.

[hardy harbor]

i cant get over how cool those fists are!

[lapis thunder]

THIS will complete my Samus fashion

[obtuse hull]

Strength to the grineer!

[rocky imp]

And the chest done. Just legs to go, tomorrow :D

[hardy harbor]

i wanted to mess around with yareli- ive got no experience so any critiques are hella welcome

[rotund nova]

body mesh is fine and helmet is cute

what theme were you going for?

[hardy harbor]

more of a deep ocean vibe, while still having the e-girl in there

[uneven hull]

gyre but with less electricity

[rotund nova]

And cuter

[wide plume]

Kinda got a seaweed frond feel to the skirt details and stuff.

[hardy harbor]

oh shoot i didnt see it like that. i was going for like a webbed fin but you're right lmao

[wide plume]

I think it could work. Though working within the constraints of the mesh since you can't change that would probably require some clever texturing if you were to go that route.

[silver dagger]

Leggy time let's GOOOOO
(In before someone makes toebeans)

Leg armor tennogen is greenlight

https://tenor.com/view/ccll0-gif-8880626

You know someone will do it just because

[onyx arch]

we have kavats and kubrows who have toebeans so...it can be done.

[silver dagger]

And the Vulpaphyla

And you know the first to make them will be immortalized as the Mad Lad

[wide plume]

Leg armor goes on the legs, not the bottom of the feet.

[silver dagger]

Oh I'm aware, but you know someone will attempt it

Just cause it's leg doesn't mean that it can't be like a boot

points to etheria leg armor

[jagged wigeon]

Isn't etheria on the shin, like most of the other leg attachments?

[hardy harbor]

yeah, etheria is about mid shin on the front

[silver dagger]

My b I meant the Imugi Prime leg armor

My brain derped from sleep, shush

:T

[jagged wigeon]

Ah yes, the wisp feet attachments

[silver dagger]

But seriously if someone did make those feet, they'd be herald as a hero

[jagged wigeon]

Idk about hero, maybe just acknowledged as a person who did something that most likely took great effort in getting approved by the guideline's standards

[rotund nova]

Y'all are really trying hard to get someone to bend the guidelines enough just so you can put toe beans on your feetsies

[hardy harbor]

is that really so bad?

[rotund nova]

Nah I'm just describing the situation

No judgement

[silver dagger]

I mean...it would still be "leg armor"

😋

[oblique shore]

You could make them yourself

[silver dagger]

Don't have a Computer

I'm using my phone for discord and stuff and it's not really optimized

[rotund nova]

So uh, what's a tennogen?

[celest nest]

player made skins.

[silver dagger]

"Tenno Generated" hence Tennogen

[rotund nova]

*hence TennoGen

The big G is important

[silver dagger]

-3- thank you Rallen, I guess -3-

[lyric abyss]

not to be confused with TennoCon

[silver dagger]

[jagged wigeon]

Not me lol I'm good with just the proper shin attachments

[rotund nova]

I think you mean chin. A shin is the front part of your leg right below the knee

[jagged wigeon]

No that's exactly what I meant, for the leg attachments

[rotund nova]

Ohh

But those are for Warframes only

Wait

I'm stupid, I read proper as Operator

Sorry

[jagged wigeon]

Lol it's all good, pobody's nerfect

[rotund nova]

properator

It's half past 8 here and I'm still at work so my brain ain't working well rn

[jagged wigeon]

It be like that sometimes

[rotund nova]

But back to TennoGen now

[jagged wigeon]

Yeah it'd be pretty funny if we got an infested Caliban skin considering sentients and infested don't mix in lore

[vale crow]

Im hoping the Greek theming of Syntax lights a fire in someones soul when it comes to their creative drive. It's such a cool platform to work from

[uncut eagle]

YES

[rocky imp]

Tennogen discord has exploded with ideas already

[jagged wigeon]

Awesome!

[celest nest]

But most are doing same mohawks

[rocky imp]

I may change mine to stand out a little, but mohawks are pretty dang cool

[celest nest]

I probably cannot start working on mine because you know. Not tenno, I need body to fit texture better

[devout ridge]

I have a question about tennogen. How exactly do I join? I've got some ideas for a sailfish inspired skin for hydroid

[rotund nova]

*Hydroid

[devout ridge]

Oop! Sorry. I've been running that mission so much

[rotund nova]

ye, we all did tbf

doesn't help that they're only two letters off

[devout ridge]

Yeah lol

[amber oyster]

I recommend watching Hydroxates Tennogen pipeline videos on YouTube

[devout ridge]

I'll definitely check that out!

[amber oyster]

A very good general outline of the process

[keen solstice]

for the ones who forgot or haven't seen the livestream, there's a code for a free item: styanax
Write it in the redeem code in the market to redeem the item

[rotund nova]

TYYY. I wasn’t able to watch the steam cause I had school but I’m so glad you told me about that lol

[rigid kraken]

what are the codes

[keen solstice]

styanax is the code....

[lyric abyss]

no. that gives a decoration. you have to wait till veilbreaker release and just log in

[rotund nova]

no one said it wasn't a decoration

[thick root]

bruh

[desert belfry]

Awesome

[celest nest]

It is time to release four hundred twenty five Styanax helmets.

[jagged wigeon]

If anyone here has ever played Rise of the Argonauts I hope it brings some inspiration to your helmet/skin ideas for Styanax or others, personal favorite game of mine

[celest nest]

Hmmmm

Not sure where I'm going with it... Long helmet is certainly unique, but maybe I should stick to tall with Nekros

[celest nest]

I should experiment with this long head more. I think it can turn into something interesting

[uneven hull]

damn he's scary :D

[celest nest]

I want to make Nekros look as horrifying and wrong as possible

For now he looks a bit goofy tho

[mystic radish]

So I’m curious, is anyone planning to make a styanax helmet that has this spartan eye cutout thing on it? Cuz I was thinking about making a helmet for it but I have no clue how to do anything tennogen yet lol

[celest nest]

Right now close to fifteen people are preparing to make styanax helmet

[mystic radish]

Ye ik, I just haven’t seen on with this design yet

[silver dagger]

Not gonna lie, Bjorn, but for a moment my mind went dirty when i first saw the image. Gives me Monster Hunter Khezu vibes

[onyx arch]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

[rotund nova]

For the record: there are so many greek helmets with eye cutouts thar calling this design element Spartan is, frankly put, a huge understatement and doesn't do it justice.

[mystic radish]

Fair, it’s just the stereotypical spartan helmet

[shell talon]

Let's try to stay on topic for actual TennoGen, please. 🙂 A few messages were deleted to clean things up a bit.

[thick root]

Just another day in the tennogen channel then

[shell talon]

Please stop.

Please no posting things with swearing or profanity, even if it's censored. 🙂

[last sigil]

okay my guy

mb i didnt know

[shell talon]

I'm deleting things unrelated to the channel, or that are meme-y and not supposed to be here. You've made it rather apparent your intent, so I suggest you read the #rules before posting further in the server.

It is very clearly a meme.

[silver dagger]

Hey btw just wanted to say thanks for the new Mesa skin. I love the new helmet

[shell talon]

It wasn't a serious contribution, made as a joke, and made to cause discomfort.

Cleaning up more messages now to help the channel stay on-topic.

[silver dagger]

Not really no

Cheers, Min

👍

[shell talon]

Now, speaking of getting back on topic... I really need to get back to learning Blender to make that armor I want to make lol

[celest nest]

I can show you the world

But it's gonna start with obligatory donut

[rotund nova]

blender guru tutorial series or a different one?

[celest nest]

Of course blender guru. Donut is a meme at this point not because it's bad and overused but because it's good and like getting a degree

Flipped normals also do excellent tutorials on blender, what also helps is that there's two of them. So if one explains something in a weird way, second is already preparing to catch the line

CG Cookie is another guy I constantly refer to for tips and tricks

Polyfjord is good channele too

Smeaf

[lyric abyss]

so the peeled loki skin isnt real?

😢

[shell talon]

😮 I'm up to learn from blender guru, whoever that is!

[shell talon]

Only made as a joke/meme. It isn't a serious submission.

Never heard of blender guru before, but I will look them up when I get home. 😄 Youtube channel?

[rotund nova]

Blender Guru on OnlyFans

[shell talon]

Y u lie to me? q_q

[lyric abyss]

bummer. i liked the style

[jagged wigeon]

Incubus Loki is all the skin I need, gnarly and cool

Or maybe I said the wrong skin name, I mean the infested one

[gilded moon]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[rotund nova]

Why the long face?

[honest ravine]

Eldritch Flesh Monster? Me like .

[jagged wigeon]

Interesting and possibly horrible idea, mosquito shaped helmet for Nekros

Beyond that I don't really know any other insects with long faces that might fit the theme, maybe praying mantis?

[celest nest]

Yes, Youtube. Donut is a training course where you make a... well, a donut, but main goal is to learn all basic functions of Blender while producing donut as a sideeffect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoXOplUvAw

[rocky imp]

This tutorial is fantastic, I'll vouch for it too

[shell talon]

Thank you. 🙂 I'll try to give it a whirl in the next couple days!

[celest nest]

Jussayin, if yoour level of experience with 3D is around zero or a beginnner, most likely you won't be able to make armor yet

[hushed hound]

Isn't blender on version 5 now?

[celest nest]

Last I checked it was on 3

[thick root]

Glad to hear, there were quite alot of people who were unhappy with the helmet change

[silver dagger]

You kidding? I kinda want more fashions to look more... Animalistic. Loved how Insomnia looked like a bird head from egypt

[high ermine]

Im doing tennogen correctly yeah?

[strange hound]

How do we inspire someone to make some skins like the bubonico for the other weapons? Just got it and instantly got some nightmare, resident evil, prototype vibes

[oblique shore]

Inspire someone?

[high ermine]

just commission or ask someone to do it

sorry she nakey so adding panties, now i am doing tennogen correctly 😉 xD

[celest nest]

Yes

You are already master

[high ermine]

I got 16 year experience in 3d design, expect big plans

[jagged wigeon]

Nice

[eager quail]

Please don't upload memes/unrelated media.

[rotund nova]

I hope in 2023/2024 warframe adds a render distance dont ya think?

[uncut eagle]

Why

[shadow parrot]

Anyone on here have a beginner's guide to using TennoGen creation technology?

[celest nest]

Realistically you need a guide on how make 3D models in general first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoXOplUvAw This is a good start

[rocky imp]

Working on a Grineer staff now.

[celest nest]

Is pretty good

[rotund nova]

i love it

[wide plume]

Merchant is on a tear lately.

[uneven hull]

I hope Merchant isn't going to make a grineer speargun

cause it would be pretty hard to top the original Javlock

[rocky imp]

If we could, it would be fun to.

But sadly not possible.

[soft plover]

Is tennogen gonna make a skin for the boards arch wings and nechramechs too?

[celest nest]

Who on God's green earth would realistically want to buy a skin for a kdrive

[vale crow]

That is a great question for the Kdrive fanatics

[rotund nova]

I would love to see another Nechramech skin ngl

[jagged wigeon]

I just want something that looks like the Green Goblin's glider

[ivory imp]

Oh hey my old concept

[crude scarab]

oh yeah, I just searched and saw almost an identical image pop up in fan art channel

this one is jus a lil more zoomed out

[uncut eagle]

Whoever it belongs to I like

[crude scarab]

I think I citation of the original artist is required tho, just for manners and all

[shy swan]

sorry i forgor, also i found that on google images and found cool

[crude scarab]

no prob slips by everyone at times

sir this is uh..

a #tennogen-creation-discussion channel

(really wish we had a meme channel)

[desert belfry]

Oopsie daisy

Wrong chat 😔

[crude scarab]

petition for meme chat

[uncut eagle]

YES

[ivory imp]

no worries, i just saw that and was like hey i did that ages ago

[shy swan]

i think the #submit-warframe-emoji is a meme channel

[crude scarab]

aight bet, time to see the memes

yep, I see what u mean

[eager quail]

Negative

[desert belfry]

😔

[hoary lichen]

if you're trying to get into tennogen, would it be recommended that you have 3D experience prior?
Also what 3d program should you be using? (just got blender, but i may need a tutorial)

[rocky imp]

Very much recommended to have prior experience, but with that said it's a good motivation for learning 3D

Blender is fantastic. Best place to start is blender gurus donut tutorial

[rocky imp]

Are there any melee weapons anyone wants to see of a Grineer version of that doesn't already have one?

Besides staff and fists

[uneven hull]

warfans, but they aren't on the list :(

[hybrid portal]

Maybe a heavy weapon like galatine?

if that isnt on the list then i’m not sure tbh i dont know where i can read the list

[rocky imp]

There's an existing grineer heavy blade, but I had possibly been thinking of an axe

[hybrid portal]

That’d be interesting to have a grineer take on

[vague dragon]

Tonfas. I don't think there is a grineer melee Tonfa.

[rocky imp]

There's some rocket powered ones, but alternate ones might work

[rotund nova]

Does anyone here have any Gauss Deluxe concepts?; - ;

I don't know the exact rules for that kind of stuff but I'd this isn't the place to discuss deluxe concepts because it's technically not TennoGen(?????????????)

please correct if I'm wrong

which would be nice, I want to see Gauss deluxe concepts

Ikr

I just want my boi to have some love…

But Wisp exists and people literally have infinite ideas for her skins

I was hoping we'd get a concept at TennoCon

Same

Hopefully we get to see a concept soon. Also cant wait for Gauss Primekdfodockdkckckdlxldp

next year, brotha, next year

Yep lmao. I’m immediately pulling out my credit card when his prime comes out

[vague dragon]

I'm a sevagoth main. We got no tennogen or any sort of cosmetic.

[warm bison]

I like yareli, I know the feel. It'll arrive eventually. Hopefully. :p

[rotund nova]

I meannnn you have this

[rotund nova]

I’ve seen some cool Yareli helmets and skins, so I’m sure you’ll get one soon lol

[oblique shore]

Not in game yet

[rotund nova]

O

[uncut eagle]

Hey there’s me

[rotund nova]

LOL

[rocky imp]

Grineer staff work in progress update

[warm pasture]

that looks bonkers

[rocky imp]

Bonkers bonking stick

[jagged wigeon]

Bonkurr sounds sick

[jagged wigeon]

Or Clonkurr, I'd concur

[rocky imp]

Damn both of those are good

Mid way through painting it now

[rocky imp]

Emissive on the spike tips or leave them bare? What do you all think?

[proper kettle]

I like the emissive glowy personally? Makes me think whatever element it’s got is at its strongest there, like if it’s heat, the spiky tips are glowing orange or something cuz it’s so superheated right at the spikes to bonk at foes with.

[rocky imp]

I think I'm leaning towards the emissive myself.

Threatening stance

[celest nest]

I'd leave them bare metal. It doesn't make much sense for glow

I'd add glow in the recess instead, and set it to AO

[desert belfry]

Merchant is chugging designs out dayum

[rocky imp]

As in the dips in the spikes?

[celest nest]

As in here, in the ribby core

[rocky imp]

Oh, I feel like that would be a bit too much emissive in one place.

It's already in dots down the middle band

[celest nest]

Mhm, but small dots of emissives is worse than clusters, and right now you have dots in form of spikes

Just give it a try

[rocky imp]

Yeah, can't hurt to give it a go

Will test it when I'm at my computer in a bit

[rocky imp]

It works OK

Not sure I like it more than having it on the tips or even none at all

But it's OK

[celest nest]

Feather edges

I'd say none at all looks best

It's not necessary to have your model glow like CIA if your design is strong enough

But also try generating that emissive with hook on either inverted Curvature, or Ao

[rocky imp]

Yeah, would have feathered it more if I liked how it looked.

[rocky imp]

What does that mean exactly?

[celest nest]

Make new fill layer, add black mask and restrict it to only those areas, then add generator into black mask and hook AO into generator

[rocky imp]

What sort of generator?

[celest nest]

Curve or AO

If curve, then global invert

[rocky imp]

Thanks, I'll mess around and see how it looks.

[celest nest]

It cna look really cool

This glow was made using several stacking inverted curve masks

[rocky imp]

How do the elemental FX on weapons work, I know DE does them but is there any more info? On one hand, I like the emissive spikes. It brings out the fork of the spikes from more angles.

But it may be too much if there's elemental FX on it from weapon mods

[celest nest]

usually they just wrap the stricking surface in looped flowing emissive

and thats it

[rocky imp]

hmm

It does appear that most grineer weapons have emissive spikes so it should be fine

[celest nest]

It's up to you

[rocky imp]

It's a tough one

[rocky imp]

Please could you show me how this is set up?

Having trouble doing so

[celest nest]

Sure when I come home

[rocky imp]

Thanks!

[rotund nova]

I'd actually say it looks better without the glowy spikes

[celest nest]

@rocky imp

Here's basically how my glow is setup. Folder, has blackmask that dictates overall restriction area for all emissive areas, and then you have a fill layer inside with black mask fill, and then add a generator node with something like a curve plugged in it

And generator is super simple

[rocky imp]

What is on the fill layer?

I'm confused about the actual tint part

[celest nest]

Nothing

Fill layer is just set to emissive channel and that's it

Oh, and emissive should be set to pure white output, but you know that

[rocky imp]

Like this?

[celest nest]

Yup

Wat's your papinion on it

[rocky imp]

Love the look, not the placement

Is there a way to stop it applying to ALL my emissive though?

[celest nest]

you can adjust it

Yeah, just make a dedicated layer for just this

And put it in a folder with black mask

or if you mean you don't like how it spreads throuhg entirety of masked area, you could play around with sliders on the generator itself

[rocky imp]

Thanks

[jagged wigeon]

Ngl I really like how this one looks, might be too much but I love that it reminds me of those weird autonomous spikeball things from Battleship

[carmine lance]

OMG I WANT THIS

[regal mango]

i just wanted to know if someone is planning to do a hood like drifter stranger's hood but for operator ?

[silver dagger]

It's ok to not have 3d experience if your planning to Collab with someone

[severe gorge]

Dibs on making first styanax skin

[tepid crescent]

deng it

[jagged wigeon]

Files are gonna be raided when released I bet

[rocky imp]

So many people planning skins for him

Going to be a lot of competition

[hoary holly]

Amazing work on the skin, as always @celest nest

[severe gorge]

HAHA

[tepid crescent]

im not an artist lol im just messing

[severe gorge]

Styanax templar skin

(nobody steal my idea noo)

[tepid crescent]

ight lemme just do this rq

🤣

[slender lichen]

Who's that? It looks sick

[steady furnace]

revenant

[jagged wigeon]

I love how the devilish look reminds me of Darksiders art

[rotund nova]

oh puppers, the new TennoGen stuff, I completely forgot about that

[celest nest]

Thanks

[tidal gull]

Whyyyyy did the Lavos tennogen skin get ruined?
The helmet is a god damn PISS JUG now instead of a grineer toxin globe
seriously regretting buying this thing now

[rotund nova]

what

OH WOW

ewwwww

that does look like a piss jug

[tidal gull]

W h y

I paid for a cool toxin looking thing for lavos 😔

[desert belfry]

Now make white

[rotund nova]

apparently it was "supposed to be like that from the beginning" but I don't buy that

[tidal gull]

You cant just change something like that! >:V

Making it white or black mildly makes it less visible but also completely ruins your ability colours

Could there be like no fluid version and then the piss jug version anyhow?

actually ruined a 10/10 head

@rotund nova why did you do this my man

[celest nest]

@rotund nova answer for your sins

[tidal gull]

Am I legit for a refund because this is not what I paid for? 🤔

[celest nest]

Tbh it looks a bit weird. It'd look less weird if it was entirely covered in liquid, but at like 20% opacity

[tidal gull]

If it was ALL goop it wouldnt matter

but that tiny sloshing puddle jesus christy

[celest nest]

Time to drink from the chalice

[rotund nova]

Jestah, come full up me chalice again aya!

[celest nest]

Time to ping erneix more so he gets scared when he wakes up

[rotund nova]

ye

just maybe not here

[celest nest]

He still owes me for poping me in the back in Ready or Not

[tidal gull]

Force him to drink the brain jug until its no more

[thick root]

Why isn't it filled all the way up?

[rotund nova]

I think ill go back to sleep

Bruh you guys asked for this. And if we fill it way up it will block everything inside helmet.

who asked for this?!

I didn't even know it was supposed to have liquid in it

My comment section in workshop page , twitter dudes ,

Vulbjorn and moomman

[rotund nova]

Cause warframe liqued fx doesnt have opacity , so it will be hard solid just like syandana.

@celest nest what suffering did you bring upon this cruel world? We were this close to Utopia!

I think its fine , looks fine to meeeh

It looks soo cool when it slosh

[rotund nova]

well, buy it. this was intended

[rotund nova]

he shot you?

lol

No

U shot him

This dude get stabbed by a homelesss man

U r bad SWAT

I just distracted him

He was looking ouside window

And a guy shot him with knife

lol

[tidal gull]

Well it looks like poopoo with the liquid

Who knew steam comments and twitter dont have the best ideas

[rocky imp]

@rotund nova And I have been working on a design for a styanax grineer skin. Check it out.

[rotund nova]

Really good guys

[rocky imp]

The idea is a grineer sort of man at arms look

With a bit of ruthless bandit

[tidal gull]

I have a hardon for all he grineer skins

Whats with the funky sideways bits on his left knee though?

[rocky imp]

You can't change the mesh of the frame and they exist on the normal frame.

So can only colour over them

[jagged wigeon]

I dig how this concept looks, makes me think of "hey you, pick up that can."

[tidal gull]

I havent had enough of a look to actually see it

because of the frame being disabled

soon

[celest nest]

God, Styanax looks so cool

I cannot wait to get my grubby, wretched tendrils on his files.

Such a simple and elegenat design. If we exclude the udders. Tho, they also fit well

[vale crow]

Yeah
His helmet kind of made me think of a fish fin.

[proven nacelle]

So I notice a lot of skins have little line-y details and whatnot. Is it possible for a TennoGen skin to not be… over-detailed like that? If that makes any sense

Asking bc I’m not sure if I’m designing something right according to TennoGen standards/expectations lmao

[severe gorge]

How do i set up blender for making tennogen

I have no clue what im doing

[tepid crescent]

why

[lethal lake]

did they fix the styanax thing?

[hushed hound]

Yeah

[lethal lake]

oh ok

thank you

[celest nest]

Yes, it's one of the important rules actually, KISS - Keep it Simple Stupid. But it's easy to get carried away whihc results in overdetailing

[narrow owl]

Me in the next 5 year knowing there won’t be a nyx skin 💀

[rotund nova]

mAkE oNe YoUrSeLf ThEn!11!!

[narrow owl]

I have no blender or modeling experience 💀

😔

I wish i did

[rotund nova]

Me too, my dude, me too

[narrow owl]

Our pain is immeasurable

[rotund nova]

And our day is ruined?

[narrow owl]

Perhaps

[celest nest]

Its k

All you need to do is make DE buff her

[proven nacelle]

True, but I look at a lot of the skins released and it feels like I need to cram it with all kinds of details in order to get approved, lmao. Like, I'm trying to design Necramech-y skins and the aesthetic is pretty simple compared to, say, the Mithra line or Zaimaru. Even Graxx/Kuvael skins are pretty overtly detailed in comparison.

Also when I've tried to use ZBrush to carve in details there's a square halo around the brush lmfao rip

I'll figure out a way to make my ideas work, at any rate. :V

[celest nest]

Not necessarily needed in order to get accepted, it's just we often get lest in process and overdetail stuff when it's realistically no longer necessary. I know I struggle with this problem a lot, so I took upon myself new habit of standing up every 20m or so to take a walk and ignore the work for at least 10m

It's like, you know, if you worked on something for say 100hr, you are used to already complex design and you start thinking "Hmmmmm, what else could I add"

Also, your brush has default square alpha. It will create really square strokes. I'd recommend alpha 06 for more organic sculpting

[proven nacelle]

ty king, you are the best and a dispenser of sage advice

[celest nest]

I am a trashgoblin that operates on concentrated chaos, but sometimes gets full neuron short circuit and gets into short-lived Yoda mode

Mostly depends on how much coffee intake I had beforehand

[proven nacelle]

I hear ya, except I go into Marjorie the Trash Heap mode... also dependent on coffee intake, lmao

[pearl nova]

I mean, I'm normally not a major fan of the Infested or Sentient aesthetics, but your work on Infestation and Epoch's work with Sentient stuff... Got me kinda going like 👀

[lyric abyss]

were you always allowed to change the mandacord effect on octavia tennogen skins?

[odd yarrow]

Can anyone help me farm requiem relics

[lyric abyss]

does this look like a lfg channel?

[smoky lily]

just a slow wip of a freehand sculpt im doing for a styanax concept art i drew

[rotund nova]

Stop making stuff in phone u dummy

[rotund nova]

I was mentioned

I was matinoed!

:<

I was marionated

[rocky imp]

Marinated

[rotund nova]

Iyea

U remember?

[celest nest]

I take full responsibility for Erneix as it was I who recommended him specific brands of rum.

Which, I think, he didn't pick n chose, but instead bought all.

[rotund nova]

No

I boight rum

Redvine

I am sober

U can sleep for now

Vodka

[smoky lily]

little less lumpy

[smoky lily]

testing stuff, looking better

[grizzled cairn]

Is it possible to suggest some glyphe ?

[rotund nova]

Glyphs aren't part of TennoGen so this isn't exactly the right place for that but there might be a place for that, maybe?

[grizzled cairn]

i need some for my arsenal... It can be nice if we can propose some

[smoky lily]

Typically users don't have the option to propose or suggest content for the game outside of opening forum threads or the like@grizzled cairn . The only people that realistically used to get that task are the tenno council and they only really get a chance to do it randomly when de opens the floor and have a specific task or Idea in mind for suggestions in their subforum. But that's been a rarity as of late. Glyphs are specific to individual creators, or those people who purchase the extreme VIP tickets on prior TennoCon. Those are the only cases that I can recall

[grizzled cairn]

too bad if its not possible, but i dont realy care who made them just it can be good to have even more glyphs you see

i will see on the forum, thx

[river kayak]

is it possible to get unbanned?

[wide plume]

Buddy boy, you're in the Tennogen discussion channel. Might I direct you to #modmail, or just... Y'know. Support.

[celest nest]

I wonder

Considering de didn't release shield and spear, would we be able to make sorta spear-like sword and shield when that's available

Or does sns have too many swinging strikes and would clip into everything

[rocky imp]

Well the super long training sword skin exists so maybe they'd accept longer than usual swords

Though that skin isn't tennogen

[celest nest]

Super long training skin sword skin?

[rocky imp]

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Tannukai_Longsword_Skin

[celest nest]

I see

I must'v missed it

[rocky imp]

It's pretty much a spear in length

[celest nest]

Where is it held?

Which part is the handle

[rocky imp]

White part down near the bottom

Lonnnnnnnng

OK so, ignore the details on the blade (Serration included) What blade shape looks best from this line up?

[elfin frigate]

As me being just a lurker on this channel i don't know how valuable my feedback is in the matter but i'd say either the first or the second from the left. The first blade has the same aesthetic/feel to your 2h nikana design, which gives it a personal (and very well designed imo) touch as its your own line of grineer tennogen and the second blade has the typical heavyness a grineer weapon should have when i picture, in my head, an heavy grineer unit wielding it.

[rocky imp]

Also vox solaris wrench machete? 👀

[rotund nova]

It's basically a Shinai but without the Tsuba (hand guard) and the white part is the handle.

[uneven hull]

2nd

[rocky imp]

Quick materials test of the vox solaris wrench.

[rotund nova]

that actually doesn't look too bad for a quick test

definitely has the right amount of wear

[rocky imp]

I think that's basically done. I don't want to over-detail it.

[smoky lily]

Trying to come up with a banshee design, bunch of concept drafts thrown about 🤣

[rocky imp]

I like attenuation and equalizer

Decibel is cool too

[smoky lily]

Yea I had someone else like decibel also, cause bat style I guess

The attune one was based one a subwoofer , trying to not have a giant hole in the face lol 🤣. Because I was working on this other design I thought about how divas used to wear those sideways hats that were like this so I thought oh what if I put a hat style connected to the subwoofer

[round void]

hmmm

I think someone should make a skin for Caliban that gives him an Eidolon-like appearance

[dreamy elbow]

How to start making skins and things for tennogen

[smoky lily]

get a 3d program, look at the tennogen resource site for refrences/how to ect

a quick draft of the 1st pic above

to get to the base form

[dreamy elbow]

Can u help me out maybe later today?

[smoky lily]

I havent actually produced a design on my own yet , youd be better with reviewing some of the sources available

hydroxate has a whole set of tutorial videos https://youtu.be/WHJuxfEtUSg

if you need a free program blender is an option , i use 3dcoat which isnt that common ..?

[dreamy elbow]

Yea but you have drafts like this

[smoky lily]

i did that in 3d coat , it allows me to live sculpt like clay

[dreamy elbow]

Oh

[smoky lily]

i know how to 3d sculpt and work in this app xD but to be honest i havent really done this in years , i only recently got back into it to work on a stayanx draft

[smoky lily]

this one

[smoky lily]

so im not the best to teach this, i can explain and or inform on what i know but plenty here are more experienced and talented then I

[dreamy elbow]

Ok

[severe gorge]

Working on a solaris themed chest

Because solaris is cool

[rocky imp]

Ohh share? I'm working on Solaris stuff atm too and would love to see 😁

[severe gorge]

More in the concepting phase than anything—this is my first piecce

[zenith flax]

OOOooooo yea, I love Attenuation especially, very stylish, and that last picture 👀

[smoky lily]

👍

[jagged wigeon]

Equalizer looks like a cool Kaiju head, and Decibel has this cool bat look to it

[rocky imp]

@severe gorge how familiar are you with blender?

[severe gorge]

Somewhat

ive done stuff in low poly

[rocky imp]

Have you done all the usual recommended tutorials?

Like the donut tutorial, etc

I am only suggesting them if you haven't done them as you said you were new to it

They are really useful

[severe gorge]

i have, i meant i was new to tennogen

what do you make your stuff in?

[spiral raft]

Idk if this is the right place to ask but is DE aware that the drifter zenoriu mask is bugged?

[rocky imp]

Ah I see! Nice!

I use blender and substance painter

[severe gorge]

Nice, thanks!

[severe gorge]

@rocky imp random thought

just put your wrench on two ends of a pole and you have a staff

(joking)

[rocky imp]

A staff version would be cool.

[pearl nova]

Y'mean like this?

[severe gorge]

yes

[pastel dove]

please delete if this is the wrong channel for it
i am falling in love with wisp and bet her default isnt up my alley aesthetically, so i wanna buy a tennogen skin for her.
So i wanted to know which works best with color and the materials it is made of cause as much as the dex skin is nice the materials make it not quite there for me so which wisp skin would yall say i should get ?

[jagged wigeon]

Whichever floats your boat, that's your personal preference

[ivory radish]

Just get all of them, it's what I do for my favorite frame

Solves all problems

[pastel dove]

i going to , issue is im too poor for it atm

but the ones i like the most are the cycorax and raevuz and the solo head one

coven is really nice too

[ivory radish]

aight, think of it this way

try to pick a theme for fashion you wanna pursue, and decide based on that

[pastel dove]

i think imma go with cycorax

[jagged wigeon]

Reminds me of Bionicle for some odd reason

[thick root]

Vahki claws

[severe gorge]

That brings me back

[cerulean cedar]

Rahkshi staff

[rocky imp]

Went back to my wrench and changed it into a two handed axe instead

[jagged wigeon]

Nice

[rocky imp]

With tints

[rocky imp]

Turns out I'll need to make the handle longer

[thick root]

Sentient gauss wip

And here is the helm in redline mode

[eternal pendant]

Yes! Comically large wrench!

[severe gorge]

Wait so you cant change body models?

Im so confused

[severe gorge]

Got my vote

[hoary bramble]

Men i will get that 👍👍👍

[cyan crystal]

I wonder if anyone will ever do a sentient Khora - We're getting pretty nice lookin' skin themed over them lately.

[zenith flax]

The shape of the mesh can't be changed for tennogen, but skins can look very different due to texturing and especially bump mapping giving things different looking shapes. Plus, helmets of course can be reshaped however

[dry canopy]

oh yeah. I’m buying this one.

[rotund nova]

THAT LOOKS SOOO GOOOD

[vast iris]

more oberon tennogen? :)

[severe gorge]

What about wisps capes

Sre those part of the head?

[rotund nova]

of course they are

have you never noticed when switching helmets on her?

[oblique shore]

Looks a bit like Volt Electrolyst though

[thick root]

Maybe i should change the helmet after all

[oblique shore]

It looks nice, its just that they might not accept it I guess

[zenith flax]

Yea! She has some unique stuff with her helmets, I wish more frames had skins like that tbh. Atlas has a couple of odd ones too.

[jagged wigeon]

Sentient Atlas sounds like an interesting one

[celest nest]

Styanax files have been made available

LET THE MEME COMMENCE. 300 SKINS INCOMING STRONG

[zenith flax]

yessssss

[jagged wigeon]

Let's gooo I bet someone's already doing a sentient Styanax

[proven nacelle]

Always Sentients… lmao

I’m gonna figure out how to Necramech-ize him

[ivory radish]

Not always, I know only 1-2 creators who've been dedicated largely to sentient themes for a few years now
Looking forward to see you do necmec themed ones too

[severe gorge]

YES

WOOT

dibs on fortuna/solaris styanax

[tepid crescent]

[rocky imp]

<@&778745217037238293> Sorry for the ping, not sure if I should use mod mail for this but I'm not reporting anyone so..

Please could we get permission to post sketchfab links here?

[stoic jackal]

We can ask the devs, but I can't guarantee anything.

[rocky imp]

Thanks, that would be awesome!

[severe gorge]

what

uh

Merchant, do i texture in blender?

im super confused

[rocky imp]

You caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan but it's very different.

industry standard is a program called Substance painter.

[severe gorge]

im not paying for substance painter

[rocky imp]

Yeah, it's expensive. Very expensive, but it is extremely powerful.

[severe gorge]

But expensive

[rocky imp]

I do not really know any possible alternatives for PBR materials I'm afraid.

I think (?) blender can do it but it's pretty complex

[severe gorge]

ok thanks

[rocky imp]

Well, don't know any free alternatives rather.

[severe gorge]

to the pirates bay!

[hushed hound]

Haha

[left wolf]

armorpaint is a a thing for texture, but a)you need to build it from code if you want it free b) it's beta and has many rough edges - not sure suitable for serious work

[gritty wadi]

some one help me i prush some item from steam and the item dont come in my acouint and I link my steam acouint to my acouint in game so whate i do naw

[ivory radish]

Try restarting your game (and don't panic, this stuff can take its time sometimes)

[solid pulsar]

Hi Tenno! We just shared this post in #tennogen-resources , but there is a new custom shader for Marmoset Toolbag that adds support for Warframe’s texture maps such as tint maps and animated emissives.

For full details and to download the Shader, please head to the official guide here: https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=warframepbr-marmoset-shader

[severe gorge]

huh

[rocky imp]

John Prodman has a brother: Rob Wrenchman

[severe gorge]

LMFAO

That is creative

[rocky imp]

POV you just bullet jumped into a wall 10 times trying to get through a doorway and this guys there looking at you

[uneven hull]

he could have been carrying solaris wrench (that we have as a skin for hammers) in one hand and your wrench in the other

[ivory radish]

why would corpus carry something as inferior as a solaris wrench?
jokes aside, love that render

[uneven hull]

wrench is always useful

[rocky imp]

Sadly no one has ripped the Solaris workers yet so had to use a crewman :(

POV no funny joke just you about to be bonked

[ivory radish]

Damn, someone has to amend that

[celest nest]

They rigged or preposed?

[rocky imp]

Rigged

By someone called Valkyrie I think?

[celest nest]

Cool beansos

This means THERES NO REASON FOR YOU TO USE DEFAULT POSES

[rocky imp]

You wanna get bonked m8? I'll do it, swer on me worm queen

[celest nest]

Vell done

Your renders are full of wideness and goode beans

[severe gorge]

this is great

did someone rip kahl yet?

Kahl...Bonk...Tenno

[rocky imp]

The bonk squad

I need to match the colours of the bonkhurr to the grineer armour though

Oh? You're approaching me?

[wet mirage]

Is khal tennogen gonna be a thing?

[ivory radish]

If you think about it, he can wear tennogen armor pieces

[severe gorge]

LMFAO

[wet mirage]

True

[jagged wigeon]

Idk which faction (maybe Grineer) might make a cool gladiator aesthetic for attachments but I think that would be a good idea for those that wanna get their Spartacus groove on

[hushed hound]

I hope so

[loud timber]

Can someone explain to me how on earth the Xataklyst Heavy Blade hasnt been accepted into the tennogen yet?

this one

[rotund nova]

ask DE

[loud timber]

Im afraid ill incur their wrath

[jagged wigeon]

||"Don't be afraid."||

[rotund nova]

I called them is that DE talking ? They said its Patrick. 😔

[vague dragon]

Idk tbh. Maybe it looks too similar to war? Or it doesn't fit their sentient aesthetic?

[thick root]

Sentient is a difficult faction to produce

That's all

[rocky imp]

If I had to guess

Probably the tip of the blade

Forged blades aren't really seen in sentient stuff

Also meet warframes newest boss: The engineer.

He's the guy who's been hiding Chippers tools.

(also the new crowbar I've been making for tennogen)

Sorry, crewbar*

[pearl nova]

What weapon type?

[jagged wigeon]

I'll take a guess and say scythe?

More like sike bc idek if DE allows scythes

[ivory radish]

I'd assume machete

[rocky imp]

Machete, yeah

[rocky imp]

Well someones going to try making it into freemans crewbar, red and grey. So I had to test it first

[midnight arch]

what the hell is tennogen

[celest nest]

It's where we make magic happen, and often it backfires

It's also where people make skins and DE accepts them

[midnight arch]

ok

[lean tartan]

Really good stuff

[jagged wigeon]

It's where your dreams come true for better or worse

[zenith flax]

short for Tenno-generated, meaning player-made content. You can check out the steam workshop to vote on it, and see what's out there.

[severe gorge]

I think i might take a step back and learn more about what im doing first lmao

[rocky imp]

Still working on the materials, far too glossy right now but here's my new grineer axe being held

[rocky imp]

Working on the materials now

[rocky imp]

Annnnnnd final improvements for the day

[severe gorge]

Looking fire

good job mate

[hoary holly]

Theres a few items on the workshop which make me wonder why DE hasnt excepted them yet

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2583413787

Like this is just....

[hushed hound]

Imma put that on Hildyrn

[rotund nova]

Because they were not accepted once and then never received a rework or overhaul which automatically disqualifies an item to be accepted in future TennoGen rounds

[short meadow]

Ayyy did you see my idea in #gameplay-discussion ? Would it be possible or would there be issues?

[rotund nova]

helmets with hoods?

as in putting hoods on old helmets or more new helmets with hoods?

[short meadow]

More new helmets with hoods

[rotund nova]

I mean sure

if you can get a TennoGen creator to make one

[onyx arch]

did they ever announce when Round 23 due date is?

[celest nest]

No. And thank god, I still need to finish my works

[short meadow]

What piece are you working on?

[celest nest]

Saryn, armor, nekros, styanax and some weapons.

And trying to do gauss but I need a drill sargeant to even start his god forsaken mdel

[rotund nova]

Me! I can be your drill seargent!

[celest nest]

Ok

[short meadow]

Ooh nice, and yeah his model is on the same lvl as a Souls game to model it, right?

[celest nest]

His model is dark souls 2 of fortnite models

[short meadow]

Gad dam

[hushed hound]

Oh where’s the Travelling Merchant?

[jagged wigeon]

Dang I'm excited to see what you'll come up with for them

[hushed hound]

Actually I think he’s more weapon skins

[elfin slate]

Hey I bought that Liset Vammatar tennogen skin for my ship on ps4 but now they said it’s only for PC players so do I not get to use it? Or get my money back? Smh

[severe gorge]

idk

Hey Vulbjorn, what programs do you use? I'm trying to start but texturing is annoying in blender

Same with any artists that don't mind sharing their files programs!

[celest nest]

I use Zbrush for high poly sculpting, Blender for low poly retopo and hard surface, also for rendering and unwrapping, Marmoset for rendering and sometimes baking textures (but rarely), Substance Painter for texturework

[severe gorge]

Thanks!

[severe gorge]

i think i did something wrong

how do you import textures for blender

[round canopy]

Can someone tell me why Warframe is taking so long to load

[rotund nova]

not here because this is the TennoGen channel, you might find help in #players-helping-players

[ivory imp]

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1319361-texture-node-groups-for-blender/ take a look at this thread. it should have a majority of what you need

[radiant vapor]

Hello everyone! I started my first project on Tennogen. As you can imagine I have some difficulties. I decided to change one of the tints to metallic. I am using a material contributed by Hydroxate in his Youtube tutorials and that I used in SubstancePainter. The good thing is that I managed to get it to load as metallic in the Tennogen app, the bad thing is that I can't change its color. Does anyone have an idea why this could be?

[amber oyster]

Could just be the Tennogen viewer

Pretty buggy

[lean basin]

Hello, some guide to know the measurements of syandanas. For example I want to work in Blender but I don't know what measures I should respect

[rocky imp]

Hi! You can download example files from the Tennogen guide. As long as you make something around the same size and positioned in the same place, you should be fine.

https://www.warframe.com/steamworkshop/help/index.php?page=content-files-and-examples

[lean basin]

Ty 👍🏻😀

[severe gorge]

Thanks Cobalt

[past fable]

Long time no see, with the help of hydroxate's Tutorial I started to make my Samurai Helmet!
I found out how to import from Zbrush to Substance Painter.
However, the serrated Shade near Edges does not disappear no matter how I try.
Can you please show me the Export Settings from Zbrush to Substancepainter? The basic shape is made in Blender.
I plan to Brush Up the rest of the design in the future.

[rocky imp]

That's looking sick, good job

Sorry not much info on the edges though. Is a uv seam there?

[past fable]

Yes.I think it might be due to the fact that I divided the model in Zbrush, but I can't think of a specific way to deal with this.

[rocky imp]

I don't think there are many ways to deal with that sort of UV Seam, just methods of masking or hiding them as best as you can.

[past fable]

I see. I had not thought of that idea. I will give it a try!

[celest nest]

Could you show your wire mesh, and your UV borders

And also your UV map

[past fable]

yes.

[celest nest]

Not uv issue

But

Might be too low geo in nose region issue

Your crest is round, while low poly is triangular on nose. I'd suggest adding few polyloops there and fitting topologies better

I'm also not certain you need a lot of supporting edges in many areas. Your normal map should suffice in hardening the 90° edges

But that's unrelated

[severe gorge]

wow! looks great

[jagged wigeon]

Ok, this is epic

[past fable]

Thank you for your advice and sorry too late for reply.
So I should add the blue line and examine whether the green line is necessary?
Then add a bit more Warframe like detail and clean up flow,Right?

[celest nest]

I'd say yes

I would keep support loops in areas where a sharp edge is formed , about 30°

And it definitely needs more solid line work. I xan send an image when I come homr

(By linework I mean seam sculpting and detailing

Or actually I might have an image here, hold on

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/208498081019199488/1022804527763697685/unknown.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/928314379177447484/1021032434030092318/unknown.png

[hushed hound]

Who will this be for?

[oblique shore]

I think it's for Nekros

[severe gorge]

i think maybe styanax

would look cool on styanax

[uncut eagle]

So turn the spartan into a samurai?

I’m all for it

[oblique shore]

Considering they added Bonaparte, this has higher chances of being added now

[jagged wigeon]

Imagine it ends up being for Gara

Or Ash, that's good too

[leaden pulsar]

My work but is it posible for some 1 to create helmet for Excalibur to look similar to my art example? 🙂

[mystic radish]

This should be Excal prime’s skin, not the dorky golden ring embedded in his face lol

[rotund nova]

*dorky Void Key

[past fable]

I am beginning to understand.
I guess I need to try that approach and learn more about solid line work and Zbrush.
It will take time, but I will be back!

[past fable]

It's a helmet that matches a variety of Warframes.
I'm still thinking about which one to choose.
However, I would not use it for Stynax or Gara.
Samurai don't use shields.
Gara already has a skin with a similar feel.
Nekros is going to adopt this helmet variation.
I feel that if Excalibur is going to adopt it, they should also make a skin for it.

[past fable]

I think you can do the head part. However, the proportions of the foot part are different, so I think the design needs to be adjusted.
Tennogen can freely change the shape of the head part, but for the body part, we only need to change the Texture from the models.

[past fable]

I increased the number of divisions and changed the UV seam, but to no avail.

Is this something that should be resolved on the substancepainter?

[celest nest]

Delete old maps and rebake them

[jagged wigeon]

Idk but in my opinion as cool as this helmet would be for Nekros, I feel his frame is too thin to fit the helm

[celest nest]

And don't forget to shade smooth your model before importing into painter

[past fable]

Thank you Very Much!I could solve the Problem!
I think the problem was that I had too few edges and didn't apply a soft edge on substance Painter!Then I will practice Zbrush and improve it more.

Of course, I will continue to make improvements in Blender.

[celest nest]

That's a good improvement

What about Revenant? He's kinda a samurai

Oh, and also, do not forget to triangulate your faces in a way you want them to bend. If you export quadriangulated mesh, substance painter, which cannot project quads, will triangualate it as it prefers and it might create odd shapes

example.

You have Model 1, and you want program to read it as Model 2, but it might read it as model 3 if you do not triangulate it yourself and don't adjust the flow of triangles

[burnt wraith]

especially with his signature melee, Tatsu

[past fable]

I see what you mean about triangulate!
Surely creating it as a Tenno Version of that revenant skin is a good idea.
However, I have no idea how to create the effect.
Moreover,this is my first Tennogen Callenge!
I would like to try it after I get more familiar with making Tennogen.
Does the Tutorial on how to create effects ring any bells?

[celest nest]

no

[hushed hound]

Big sword samurai

[leaden pulsar]

I know all that that’s why I whose typing just a head because I would love to see someone create a helmet for him in that similar direction…

[wraith crest]

Oh this actually looks awesome, love the stained glass look a lot

[wraith crest]

How did you find out someone made this?

[rocky imp]

Making renders for tennogen items like this isn't necessary but it is fun

[past fable]

My apologies.
I apologize for missing one word in the helmet that may have offended you.

[leaden pulsar]

Haha no need for sarcasm I whose just explaining.

[loud timber]

Wdym?

[severe gorge]

Someone give me an idea for an alt helmet

Im not creative whatsoever

[rotund nova]

what frame?

[desert belfry]

Volt thor!!!

[remote condor]

submarine-captain sevagoth?

[severe gorge]

Any

[oblique shore]

Do all tennogen skins accept prime details? If so, do they carry the prime or tennogen textures?

[jagged wigeon]

Good question, I think the skins carry the tennogen textures while having the prime details carry the prime textures

[oblique shore]

hmm I think thats one of the reasons tennongen skins arent out frequently, they have to manually edit these details i assume, same with armor

[rotund nova]

if you're talking about custom prime details, I'm afraid that's not possible

[oblique shore]

Custom?

[rotund nova]

as in your own textures for the prime details

[oblique shore]

ohso it keeps the base prime textures i see

[rotund nova]

always

[oblique shore]

good to know ty

[rotund nova]

it just gets slapped on the base mesh which applies to all TennoGen skins

[obtuse hull]

Consider a nova alt helmet with an actual nova happening atop or inside of their head?

[jagged wigeon]

Gyre steampunkish helmet with like gears gyrating in the open part of the back

[rotund nova]

prime details are basically layered on top and don't need much to adjust. sometimes the base mesh is slightly changed by prime details but overall every TennoGen skin has the option to have prime details by default

[oblique shore]

i see, i dont have any so i didn't know that, i saw a grax mesa with prime details but i couldn't tell if the textures were the same

apparently immortals can do the same

[rotund nova]

yup

[oblique shore]

wish the game allowed us to see that before buying

[rotund nova]

it's technically possible but it requires you to already own one TennoGen skin

so not exactly ideal

[oblique shore]

yep

[rotund nova]

basically you equip the one skin you have, turn prime details on and then look at the previews of the other skins like you'd normally do except now the other TennoGen skins also have prime details applied

[dusty path]

hi all

i kinda wanna buy the skin from tennogen store on steam

but i play the game using launcher from main web

so if i buy the skins from steam, would it sync?

[polar nymph]

did you login on the launcher with your steam account

[dusty path]

i've been trying to download the game from steam for the past 2 weeks

but all i see is this

[polar nymph]

reinstall it

the exe is missing

[dusty path]

i've done that, tried many damn things

seriously, why all other games work on steam except for wf

[ivory radish]

verify installation folder, its files, etc.

bottom line refer to support

[meager needle]

We should have an arm attachment that is literally a blunt / the pipe u smoke out of with the zato noble animation

[jagged wigeon]

Huh

[severe gorge]

Got Ya

after i finish learning how to texture

[severe gorge]

did you mean mythological or marvel?

i was going to do mythological

[burnt wraith]

do mythos, although chris hemsworth volt would be amazing for me

[severe gorge]

Yup

[limpid summit]

Muscle-Fat Thor Volt

[granite root]

Tennogen artists pls make an inspired 300 Leonida with spartan helmet skin for Styanax

[oblique shore]

I think some accept commissions, don't expect anything for free

[celest nest]

We're already making 300 skins for him

Tennogen server is abuzz

[desert belfry]

Mythos volt thor 🤤

Could incorporate the wings marvel thor has, because there's not much happening on mythos thors head

This could also look really cool

[solid pulsar]

**Attention TennoGen artists! **We've updated the Styanax files on the Steam Workshop to address the changes to tints on the live game as well as to fix an issue with the skirt material.

If you are planning to create something with Styanax and you downloaded his files before September 27th, please head to the Steam Workshop and redownload the new versions!

We've updated the Forums & Steam post accordingly but please spread the word if you know of any TennoGen artists currently experimenting with Styanax!

[jagged wigeon]

Wait he has a skirt? I thought that was a tunic

[solid pulsar]

Skirt, tunic, leg cloth ... the bit on the bottom right of this image : )

[rotund nova]

piece of garbage clothing is what it is /j

[jagged wigeon]

Lol I like how the colors work on it and hope this means more skirt/tunic stuff in the future

[rotund nova]

nah I like it too

[rotund nova]

Not sure if this is the right place or not but when crossplay eventually happens does anyone know if the tennogen will be able to be purchased on platforms you wouldn't have been able to before?