its just as funny as your bullshit
#⌨coders-cave
gentle steeple
im more of a coder than you
and all i do is chuck money at the studio dev to do the work
north dune
wonder how much he makes off his professional work
gentle steeple
idk
north dune
cant be much if hes stopped it all
gentle steeple
LOL
north dune
hes not trolling
gentle steeple
Rothschild here
north dune
he really makes that much
chilly aurora
Epic
north dune
you can see the proof on his censored github screenshots
gentle steeple
sensored github
north dune
gentle steeple
oh no he's a mad genious of 5000 IQ
north dune
look at all his professional blue line work
gentle steeple
lol
north dune
i asked for examples and got some good stuff
gentle steeple
MS paint could do a better job
hell, ms paint from the win98 sp2 floppy could do better job
north dune
hell, ms paint from the win98 sp2 floppy could do better job
any bets on when he'll be banned?
he has public projects that support piracy
big nono here
gentle steeple
id say about an hour after i msg maxim
given he actually seems to like expanse
yes we can
north dune
id say about an hour after i msg maxim
oh shit, quicker than i would have bet
lost my ##
gentle steeple
or arent you familiar with cancel culture?
north dune
$$
gentle steeple
HAHA
north dune
screenshots of evidence are here
but why would you go out of your way to hide it
i thought you loved showing off your professional work
well there goes that chance
shot yourself in the foot just by asking
so ~1 hour
lets see how many times he can say amateur in that time
i bet 100
gentle steeple
because your not old enough for beer?
lol i drink beer when i want to relax, usually a bottle a month
wary orchid
sir, this is #⌨coders-cave
bold rover
no sales, my devs asleep
Go dream about your fantasy world and do have a great day and morning
Stay safe to,And Learn something new tomorrow?
Goodluck!
bold rover
at least for me
Go get some more rest
bold rover
But it can be the industry standard of game dev for the future
Learning it early probably can be important
hasty bane
unity gaym enjin
gentle steeple
unreal master race
average unreal engine fan
average unity enjoyer
average custom game engine developer
gentle steeple
you mean godot dev right?
main brook
<:soyman:844175093017346068> average unreal engine fan
<:GigaChad:8893831093578...
average binary game engine developer
hasty bane
gentle steeple
or maybe, JUST MAYBE we could make realistic programs THAT ARENT PIRACY APPS
astral basin
Luckily I forgot most of it by now
I remember that while loops were tricky
And we kept using JPEXS to double-check that everything was decompiled correctly - but I remember even JPEXS had some issues that we didn't have
JPEXS so ancient, I don't think they even considered a dark mode back then
outer hedge
Nah
wary orchid
Cap
outer hedge
Nah
Nah
Spent like 5 minutes searching
Not a whole lst has been not about MrBit here
Sad
wary orchid
didn't ask
outer hedge
The past simple 5 minutes has put a nail on the coffin which is all of your claims
astral basin
being like this
I guess a lot of patience
wary orchid
ooofh burn
main brook
teach me
astral basin
It's a specific decompiler. There's no "separate editor"
outer hedge
I have had little more than drawing a bunch of cubes as my modding experience yet that is more of a legitimate thing
I miss moonbox mod
astral basin
ok nevermind
astral basin
Let's copy paste this in a dark themed editor
OHH it shows the mess a while loop makes in p-code!
Why would I
Also who asked you?
Nah
I'm just relieving PTSD
astral basin
Always getting into unimportant stuff. Dark mode in editors, who cares. Amateur
outer hedge
Self taught artist here bruh
main brook
Always getting into unimportant stuff. Dark mode in editors, who cares. Amateur ...
oh no mastef
don't do the
"Amateur" on Mrbitmap
astral basin
outer hedge
Nah I don't like calling ppl Amateur, it sounds childish
I would say same but all i do is teach other people how to make cubes on a screen
astral basin
Topic : transpiling swf bitcode into readable as3
MrBitmap : OMG LIGHT MODE USER
outer hedge
Wait how is your concern suddenly his?
main brook
Topic : transpiling swf bitcode into readable as3
MrBitmap : OMG LIGHT MODE USER
twitter v2:
main brook
usually on twitter:
"hey guys look im with my friend"
"omg he's black you racist"
astral basin
usually on twitter:
"hey guys look im with my friend"
"omg he's black you racis...
D-don't go there
main brook
fair
outer hedge
I mean it fits but still
main brook
although twitter is funny
astral basin
Twitter for me is more like
"Update XYZ is finally out!!"
"When's next update?"
"What's in the next update?"
"Why is xyz not in this update?"
main brook
hahahah
outer hedge
True
outer hedge
I see that all the time and all i can think is thank god i nuked mine
main brook
"how to install plz help???!"
outer hedge
"how to install plz help???!"
I mean check all the apk dudes in #🚑help-chat or #🔧mods
astral basin
Twitter:
"Hi guys! Hope everybody has a great day"
"I really think you should... [ wall of text from #💡game-suggestions ]"
bold rover
@astral basin Are you having fun with guy
outer hedge
Ah so i am an idiot for what? Be specific please
Who even said the other dude was doing anything more than chat?
Are you assuming he is an amateur because they are talking?
knotty root
Amateur virgin
main brook
<@177730427170062336> Are you having fun with guy<:Thonk:535178385312448523>
he's being very patient
bold rover
True
main brook
Amateur virgin
says the chad with abs pfp
outer hedge
Speak for yourself breh all i know is we actually managed to make a mod work
Sad that igniz left
bold rover
Ow god 
outer hedge
Not trying to impress you
Why would i?
Not my job
Nope
Amateurs take more than they can handle or mot in their league
Why do you think amateurs have more than one job?
So you only have on job and still do alot of shit in a server full of teens? Not very proffessional
knotty root
Amateur couple
outer hedge
You make a piracy app for mercy's sake
I mean sure by all accounts ypu know more about coding than me all i am here for is to berate you for trying to lecture people about things YOU care about
Anyway before this chat devolves
Milkmod remake when Cody
astral basin
I'll have to kindly ask you to stop with the insults. And I apologize myself for having used it recently
outer hedge
Oi mastef when we getting insert thing from franchise
astral basin
Oi mastef when we getting *insert thing from franchise*
amogus
outer hedge
Sus
outer hedge
What
I am an artist
Again i am an artist who teaches other people to make other art
knotty root
PTSD
main brook
people here: code
bitmap: "hey amateur you suck"
half warrenBOT
⚠ Warned MrBitmap#7756
main brook
weee
knotty root
No it isn't
astral basin
I asked nicely
main brook
this is the 2nd time
outer hedge
Considering you just ignored what i told you about your skills earlier you are not
main brook
first one was jupe
astral basin
The way you use it, yes
outer hedge
I mean sure by all accounts ypu know more about coding than me all i am here for...
I literally told you @knotty root that by all accounts you were better, you ignored that message and went straight to defending your pride
outer hedge
It can be
outer hedge
Amateur is the same as calling someone a peasant or pleb in the work place, in context it is mean
astral basin
So far nobody has a positive impression of your behaviour
outer hedge
Then why go straight to calling me an amateur and a tangent about ypur skills
You would have instead talked about your actions and how they would be normal
Capping
"You"
Still me
You to people includes me
bold rover
Oi both of you stfu especially you @knotty root
outer hedge
Then put a comma, anyway milkmod when
All i am here for is milkmod and when we making it again
main brook
@astral basin you wanna bet how long bitmap last before they're banned?
main brook
Just let them go
that sounds somehow
like elsa saying "let it go"
except with "them"
knotty root
What Le-
bold rover
except with "them"
Ah true :o
knotty root
Le seniora
Ah ok 👌
bold rover
Speed running
outer hedge
I wonder of it's possible to make a custom race work in worldbox without replacing another
Unless of course i am uninformed and cody made it work already
astral basin
outer hedge
Nah they banned me too they just kept bringing me back for old time's sake
bold rover
Unless of course i am uninformed and cody made it work already
You probably can if you found a way to copy an existing race and make them there own thing
outer hedge
True
astral basin
Nah they banned me too they just kept bringing me back for old time's sake
You're like the only exception from the 5000 bans
outer hedge
I'l need to explore it
outer hedge
You're like the only exception from the 5000 bans <:xzibit:535205877108572189>
Wait i thought i wasn't the only one who kept being alive 
main brook
ew what the fuck
im not pissed the fact i see julia shitting on python
but its literally an image of
im gonna puke
bold rover
but its literally an image of
True.
wet girder
@knotty root don't send images like that
Julia shitting on python. It looked quite graphic
hasty bane
@astral basin i insist you ban the word amateur
main brook
i need to bleach my eyes
hasty bane
rules 1,5
wet girder
fuck it
half warrenBOT
🔨 Banned MrBitmap#7756 indefinitely
hasty bane
f
bold rover
Yey!
main brook
thank you lord jupe
hasty bane
my man has been beaned
main brook
hasty bane
this is a sad day for humanity
main brook
we have been blessed
hasty bane
oh right jupe has bot access
and bot access is above admin 
the secret guardmin / admian role
main brook
guardmin
wet girder
lol
hasty bane
pain awaits
wary orchid
ahhh peace has been restored
bold rover
Yes :o
tropic dagger
anyway when im back home I'll start doing ~~hard drugs~~ c++
Don't be afraid to get help. That's my only advice for now.
tropic dagger
🔨 Banned `MrBitmap#7756` indefinitely
Finally, the balance is restored.
lapis flint
oh what happened
why you leaking your private conversations
astral basin
why you leaking your private conversations
lapis flint
bold rover
Strange there's no time info
hasty bane
Don't be afraid to get help. That's my only advice for now.
yeah i already got an antidepressant prescription
knotty root
Strange there's no time info<:Thonk:535178385312448523>
Yeah I was wondering what was missing
astral basin
Strange there's no time info<:Thonk:535178385312448523>
@knotty root not discord
orchid heart
<@456226577798135808> not discord
Agian mastef just jumped off from the tea with his vietnamic hat
hasty bane
<@456226577798135808> not discord
what do you mean you don't communicate exclusively over discord
mastef's not hip
bold rover
<@456226577798135808> not discord
That's interesting I guess
orchid frigate
excuse me...wtf
I feel offended
@tropic dagger mr.bitmap called you a sorta good programmer i guess
That was such an insanely enjoyable convo we had with him yesterday
hasty bane
kek
gentle steeple
i enjoyed baiting bitmap
given he couldnt actually call me an amature given i dont code
i toss money at developers to code for me then make profit
gentle steeple
i mean they make money too
gentle steeple
Oh man i was enjoying that guy
i know
orchid frigate
He was confident as all hell which made conversations with him hilarious
gentle steeple
he also kept the channel alive
tropic dagger
<@773566642051481611> mr.bitmap called you a sorta good programmer i guess
I saw that.
I guess I'm not horrible?
I'm better than when I started but I'm still on the road to being good.
tropic dagger
He was confident as all hell which made conversations with him hilarious
He was the final boss.
We just didn't level up from side quests yet.
Then we found a progressions skip.
knotty root
yeah i code
gentle steeple
north dune
next venture
Coding be like (gecsgshbah83b!/$)-?{hsbansbheh}
barren shale
Coding be like (gecsgshbah83b!/$)-?{hsbansbheh}
exactly what coding is
bold rover
Nooo
north dune
Unless of course i am uninformed and cody made it work already
i dont attempt to do custom race anymore, it was buggy the first couple times and i found an alternative i prefer
reskinning an existing creature and adding/overriding behaviour did exactly what i wanted
for example the horse in lubu's mod
its a human in a horse outfit
bold rover
Ow wow :o
north dune
i apply custom skins with traits
and then make units with those traits behave in unique ways
essentially turning any existing creature into a new kind
hasty bane
that's pretty cool
wet girder
on a module
LMAO
north dune
Such a cool language
maybe
i still cant believe it took me until your card/deck examples before i started making more classes myself
almost every project of mine before then was contained in one class
north dune
probably a side effect of learning through dnspy modding
more classes is a lot harder to manage with dnspy
moving to visual studio changed pretty much everything
now its not so bad
your card/deck was so handy too
really appreciate it
hasty bane
vs is pretty kewl
barren shale
really appreciate it
np
hasty bane
#include<iostream>
suspicious
main brook
oh no
Hamza is trial mod
he's gonna start banning everyone who don't use C#
*panik rei noises*
vague bramble
he's gonna start banning everyone who don't use C#
That sounds like me haha
vague bramble
but you're not a mod
But I know mods xD
barren shale
he's gonna start banning everyone who don't use C#
ill wait until im admin
so i can ban more people
cuz not a lot of people can stop me
bold rover
First Target Rei
barren shale
second target kia
barren shale
lucid rain
Nah brainfuck is better
barren shale
brainfuck is like assembly
but simpler
you can write your own brainfuck compiler
that's how simple it is
the wikipedia page even includes this
how to make a compiler in C
and that's all of it
vague bramble
Nah brainfuck is better
What about Malbolge, that's even worse
gentle bear
epic
lucid rain
What about Malbolge, that's even worse
HolyC is the only holy way
mental jacinth
he's gonna start banning everyone who don't use C#
Yes
vague bramble
HolyC is the only holy way
Oh no, people know HolyC here
tropic dagger
HolyC is the only holy way
Oh my god yes.
I need to learn Holy C.
Just for the shits and giggles.
tropic dagger
Just remember that people exist who prefer JavaScript over C#
I don't really know between the two. I would JavaScript for testing purposes but use C# for a release build.
But then again, I'm a C++ enjoyer.
Well, I say enjoyer.
tropic dagger
Also computer 2.0 when
Did you not see the release trailer?
It looked hype af.
C-style syntax OO Assembly is the best change yet.
onyx goblet
But then again, I'm a C++ enjoyer.
Epic
C++ and lua is epic
But they’re too big brain for me to absorb 
wet girder
agreed
vague bramble
But then again, I'm a C++ enjoyer.
C++ is great but C# is just so elegant and comfortable to use
barren shale
C# has asp.net and wpf apps and support for everything
crossplatform
azure services
barren shale
you can make games and apps and websites
you can make everything with C#
with actual decent performance
vague bramble
And while having fun coding it
gentle steeple
lol
tropic dagger
C++ is great but C# is just so elegant and comfortable to use
I could see that.
I see C++ pretty much the same way.
vague bramble
I see C++ pretty much the same way.
I think how you see C++ is mostly determined by how you see programming
I love programming in C, but I heard from a ton of people that they absolutely hated working with it
tropic dagger
I think how you see C++ is mostly determined by how you see programming
I love p...
Yeah. I could see why people dislike C/C++ as well.
It can be pretty bad if you're using it wrong.
vivid wasp
What the f-
main brook
honestly
i would just code in high level language
and then use a lib that break down my code to C
to either embed it or as standalone
shy scarab
First in my class to take and pass it.
Oooh congrats
shy scarab
It's probably because your luck
tropic dagger
No I'm built different.
Never failed a cert.
I took between 10 and 20 last year.
Never failed once.
Barely studied.
quaint wedge
exec "hello world"
orchid frigate
C-style syntax OO Assembly is the best change yet.
NOOO THEY RUINED ASSEMBLY
😔
I just started understanding it man
orchid frigate
Are you saying that OSs are not practical?
What are you using then
Do you have to rewrite your pc every time you boot or something
barren shale
Are you saying that OSs are not practical?
im saying writing an OS is not practical
especially as a solo nub
orchid frigate
Way to encourage a fellow coder to keep learning 🙄
And what do you see as "practical"
orchid frigate
Well
barren shale
for a reeson
orchid frigate
They should
orchid frigate
Idc if its young its gotta learn it
orchid frigate
Out of its incredible pre made design
orchid frigate
you quit unity too
Because it was way to not custamizable
orchid frigate
you will probably quit os making
Eh doesnt matter if i will or not
barren shale
when you move on please choose something easy
barren shale
orchid frigate
Calculator too complex
Way out of my skill level
(no seriously idk how some of it works lol)
Wait...there is an actual stack overflow question on how to code a bios
By someone who has made an os
If he keeps going further down he is gonna start coding how real life physics works
barren shale
there's a lot of third party bioses online
orchid frigate
It seems so unpractical
barren shale
it actually is
gives you more access to your hardware
its like rooting an android phone
orchid frigate
Like atleast in the os you can have your own design and your own features
But bios
orchid frigate
there's a lot of third party bioses online
Here is a question
Do they have the fancy features more popular bioss do
Like the vga buffer
Or access to it
Making everything easier for os development
barren shale
never tried one
orchid frigate
Because it kinda seems like this is the actual reinventing of the wheel
barren shale
so idk
it voids the warranty of your motherboard tho
and you might burn your motherboard if you play with the wrong settings
especially in a third party bios
orchid frigate
That doesnt seem like a good idea ngl
I mean you would try the third party bios in a vm
barren shale
if you dont know what you are doing its a very bad idea
orchid frigate
If you don't you are dumb
barren shale
I mean you would try the third party bios in a vm
but you cant
cuz it wouldnt unlock the features you are trying to unlock
orchid frigate
Well like bioss are tested in vms to what i read
Or emulators
Like my favourite program qemu
During development
barren shale
when you try to unlock something in a vm but its still locked in your motherboard
doesnt work
orchid frigate
Not really a very asked question here... actually this place is mainly for making fun of coding languages
barren shale
like BAD++
orchid frigate
working on getting into college
Didn't you already do that
orchid frigate
like BAD++
NONNATIVE#
shy scarab
This channel just turn into debate channel between hamza and haydot
orchid frigate
yes no
barren shale
its hamza scolding haydot
shy scarab
orchid frigate
This channel just turn into debate channel between hamza and haydot <:hagrid:749...
Other people also join
Once a full moon
shy scarab
Other people also join
Such as Rei
orchid frigate
Also there are other debates
Actually they are pretty one sided debate
Like everyone here just absolutely destroys lua
For existing
shy scarab
barren shale
lua is short for bad
orchid frigate
Lua is short for... Lua (/ˈluːə/ LOO-ə; from Portuguese: lua [ˈlu.(w)ɐ] meaning moon)[a] is a lightweight, high-level, multi-paradigm programming language designed primarily for embedded use in applications.
wary orchid
s
orchid frigate
w
wet girder
I love how on Windows most common ways to fix problems are reboot and reinstall
if neither works you're in serious trouble
main brook
all i do is reinstall os
orchid frigate
Window's auto repair be like:
"Wait 10-20 mins so that we can tell you your pc broke"
knotty root
What language should i use to write a system that sorts files on my pc?
orchid frigate
Good question
I actually never thought about which language is best for file management
hasty bane
windows when update: lmao breaking go brr
barren shale
What language should i use to write a system that sorts files on my pc?
C#
HAS THE FILE LIBRARY
orchid frigate
windows when update: lmao breaking go brr
Windows when a single average virus is on the pc
https://c.tenor.com/4Ppz5qqQW4oAAAAM/elmo-shrug.gif
barren shale
WHICH IS SO GOOD FOR THIS
hasty bane
pytho ne
orchid frigate
Hi hamza
barren shale
C# FASTER
orchid frigate
Dont go to general
barren shale
HI HAYDOT
barren shale
OH
orchid frigate
C# is pretty nice cuz its basically the newer and more modern version of the c languages
hasty bane
csharp is cool
orchid frigate
I believe that every language is good for its own purpose
#StopProgrammingLanguageHate
hasty bane
what
Impossible
every language is capable of everything
eternal language wars are necessary
orchid frigate
No
hasty bane
yes
orchid frigate
We must stop em
Assembly x64 suggests that
Because it wants everyone to know every language is technically just a modified version of assembly
hasty bane
we must all write in assembly
hasty bane
orchid frigate
Me when assembly x86-64
https://c.tenor.com/43cc01Cj1JkAAAAM/knight-dance.gif
knotty root
Visual Studio Code is awesome
wet girder
I like Visual Studio more whenever I can use it
orchid frigate
I also used to like it
But i realise just how inferior it is to vsc in some areas
But its debugging tools are insanely good
Like the debugger and everything
hushed warren
breh
main brook
Me when assembly x86-64
https://c.tenor.com/43cc01Cj1JkAAAAM/knight-dance.gif
knight doing funni dances
knotty root
What code does this game run on?
main brook
C#
knotty root
Someone told me it was C++. Isn’t that the same thing?
main brook
C++ is the same as C# is like saying Ham is a Hamster
knotty root
The only encounter I have with coding is LUA and Gmod
main brook
gmod uses lua
knotty root
I hear that Roblox also uses LUA
main brook
i don't think gmod is a language
knotty root
i don't think gmod is a language
Ik
main brook
I hear that Roblox also uses LUA
it uses Luau
main brook
its a subset of Lua
knotty root
Is C# a subset of C++?
main brook
main brook
Is C# a subset of C++?
no
knotty root
Oh
main brook
C++ and C# are both different
main brook
yes
both have similar syntax
but different computation of how things works
usually interpreted language compile down with C or C++ and then to binary
knotty root
Might sound strange but is there like a “google translate” for code?
Like, let’s say you want to learn how to code or translate something from code to another code or whatevers
Idk, I am knew to coding
New*
main brook
that's not how that works
knotty root
Oh
hasty bane
different languages do different things
and they do them differently
barren shale
Roblox isn’t made in lua tho
astral basin
Like, let’s say you want to learn how to code or translate something from code t...
You could search for transpilers
That's for example an as3 to haxe transpiler http://as3hx.spacemages.com/
It transpiles as3hx ( which is not typed, like javascript ) to a typed language like haxe
Ha, there's a bug in that one actually.
Yeah, Issue 303 is bugged again
Correct in git version
this[param1].visible = false; was transpiled to
Reflect.setField(this, Std.string(param1), false).visible;
instead of
Reflect.field(this, Std.string(param1)).visible = false;
and that's the beauty of unit tests
deft anvil
<#701455648503627837>
Oh look they made your face a emoji
barren shale
shy scarab
vague bramble
Like, let’s say you want to learn how to code or translate something from code t...
Do you mean translate code between different coding languages?
Codex can do that
barren shale
why would anyone want to translate code between different languages
you want to translate a function ?
ez translations
just copy the description of it to google then write the language you want it in
vague bramble
why would anyone want to translate code between different languages
If you switch from Unity to Unreal Engine, as one example?
To have your C# Unity code run in Unreal C++ without having to rewrite everything
(That would be a very specific case though, as both Unity and Unreal code would be based on a lot of specifics from their respective frameworks)
barren shale
translations are not very accurate anyways
and will probably have a lot of unnessesary stuff in them
writing your code from the start would always be alot better
orchid frigate
If you switch from Unity to Unreal Engine, as one example?
To have your C# Unity...
The thing is, the code in both engines depends on their libraries, and even if lets say, we translated all the code from c# to cpp (unity to unreal), it would probably still not work as unreal's functions, classes and variable names may be different
But idk i have near to no knowledge left in unity and absolutely no experience in unreal
Oh wait yoy already specified that
I should read the messages fully lol, well I will still leave this here for if anyone needs a more specific explanation
vague bramble
writing your code from the start would always be alot better
Better but not always affordable
For enterprise companies, it can also be a good idea to have all code being auto-translated for a quick switch and then developers can slowly rewrite class by class while it's already running on the new engine, framework, language, OS or whatever
vague bramble
Oh wait yoy already specified that
Yeah haha
orchid frigate
But i just thought about the fact that pointers would be really difficult to translate
barren shale
Better but not always affordable
For enterprise companies, it can also be a good...
as i said it might perform worse
i dont know how worse
but it will probably be bad
orchid frigate
C#'s pointer system is kinda difficult to use in general (no hate towards the language btw)
When i first started using openGL i remember wanting to translate the cpp code from a book to c# and having a lot of trouble with pointers
vague bramble
But i just thought about the fact that pointers would be really difficult to tra...
Well, considering everything translates to machine code in the end, it has to be possible
Could look really overcomplicated in some languages though
vague bramble
as i said it might perform worse
Yes, but performance and good code isn't always the main concern, only in an ideal world
If an old framework is being shut down soon and a company has to translate their software to a newer one in just a month, they have these options:
- Translate the code automatically for temporarily bad code and let the developers slowly rewrite that code into optimized code
- Have the developers manually translate the code, leading to the software being not available at all for an entire year (->Company goes bankrupt and can't even pay the developers to translate the code)
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if codex would be able to translate code really efficiently
barren shale
Yes, but performance and good code isn't always the main concern, only in an ide...
getting shut doesnt really mean you cant use it
it means you wont get updates
and temporarily bad code might make the company go bankrupt
vague bramble
getting shut doesnt really mean you cant use it
No, getting shut down means you can't use it in some cases
Why are updates so important f.e.? Because security leaks are always uncovered with time, and if they don't get fixed, your software will basically just give out personal data of its users for free
vague bramble
and temporarily bad code might make the company go bankrupt
Why?
orchid frigate
Hamza man has a point
But i don't think its that big of an issue
You could easily just look at the code afterwords and fix parts you think are performance damaging
barren shale
also translating code usually works by converting the code to a lowlevel language then converting it to the wanted language
orchid frigate
The actual problem is i think the translation itself being really difficult
orchid frigate
also translating code usually works by converting the code to a lowlevel languag...
Assembly x86-64 best language pog?
barren shale
ur mum
main brook
yes
@wet girder what lib are you using for AMP now
discord.py is already deprecated
and discontinued
main brook
nah
not really
until any discord api major changes
dpy is still good
its just discontinued
there's alternative like pycord
but its new and likely to be unstable
wet girder
But when there's changes I need to rewrite everything for new lib
main brook
nah
they have the same interface
unless discord decided not to
most lib now forks dpy
so the interface is similar
unless discord decided to change how shit works
expect your code to be broken
plus i suggest using
the git version of dpy
pip install git+https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py
because 2.0 version
wet girder
Why did they discontinue it tho
main brook
well
you can read the github readme
or just
read this
im surprised you didn't know this
its been like a month
v2.0 has some major changes
like avatar_url is now non-existent
and is replaced with avatar
which returns an Asset
and Asset.__str__ returns the url
so something like
await ctx.send(f"Your avatar is:\n{ctx.author.avatar}")
works
main brook
maybe stop being alive hamza
wet girder
im surprised you didn't know this
I just don't like python for anything bigger than scripting so I haven't cared lol
wet girder
amp has over 3k lines of code
most of it spaghetti
I've been thinking of rewriting it in something like discord.net
hasty bane
3k lines of code?
i thought it was bigger than that
reading that .md tho
looks like discord just does not care
main brook
yes
main brook
I've been thinking of rewriting it in something like discord.net
probably
just not javacord
please
save your sanity
hasty bane
discord.js :DDDDDDD
wet girder
i thought it was bigger than that
it would if I didn't lose motivation
hasty bane
relatable
wet girder
discord.js :DDDDDDD
don't like it for the same reasons I don't like python for discord bota
hasty bane
I don't see myself making discord bots ever again xd
hasty bane
maybe
wet girder
and I wouldn't have spaghetti code anymore
wet girder
I agree ngl
wet girder
ah
wet girder
very, I can show tomorrow. I don't have any good way to copy code atm
hasty bane
if True:
while True:
egg += 1
main brook
very, I can show tomorrow. I don't have any good way to copy code atm
okie take your time
main brook
if True:
while True:
egg += 1
that's bad
hasty bane
very good
main brook
the if True is redundant
hasty bane
no it's not
main brook
the while True is resource consuming
hasty bane
it serves a Purpose
main brook
the egg += 1 is more resource consuming
hasty bane
you just don't understand
main brook
because int are harder to store than array of characters
wet girder
my school is gonns give me laptop someday next week which means I can code anywhere anytime
hasty bane
the meaning behind it
main brook
my school is gonns give me laptop someday next week which means I can code anywh...
weee
i just moved my python installation folder
in my mom laptop
is the laptop windows
barren shale
I've been thinking of rewriting it in something like discord.net
write in C#
and i can help
wet girder
lol
Now that you're mod it'd actually be possible if I get permission from Glonk for you to join AMP development. And there'd be a solid reason if we rewrote everything to C#
wet girder
I know
barren shale
but now that you said it
wet girder
but still
barren shale
makes me :hmm:
hasty bane
make Hamza sign an official contract
barren shale
hasty bane
so he can't run away
barren shale
sadly ill have to remind you that i live in syria
so if you wanna come and get me
you are welcome to
cuz the government aint gonna do shit
barren shale
ive seen a lot of russians
hasty bane
drone strike time
barren shale
in armored vehicles
barren shale
drone strike time
bruh you are a russian
you too know that your goverment dont care too
wet girder
If I breached some contract in Finland and they'd report it to the police I'd for sure get in trouble
wet girder
Ehh, it also means we're safer from criminality here
vague bramble
so they will not use slow bad stuff
Decreased performance doesn't have to mean the program gets slow at all though
What makes code slow is usually the complexity of algorithms, and obviously the algorithms you wrote stay the same with translation
vague bramble
so it might be really low quality
That's not a good point, the two translation thing is done especially to get better quality translations
barren shale
can have super different performance in different languages
looping over an array of 25000 size in python
is 15x slower than in C#
vague bramble
The actual problem is i think the translation itself being really difficult
Yeah, that's definitely true, but Codex (The tool I mentioned) does this AI-driven and trained by the best github repositories
vague bramble
looping over an array of 25000 size in python
You can't just compare Python to C# like this, one is a compiled language and one is an interpreted language
barren shale
yeah
but when translating
you might wanna translate C# to python
and then you need to optimize your code
vague bramble
You can't just compare Python to C# like this, one is a compiled language and on...
And language-specific weak point like that can easily be addressed by performance tracking tools to identify them
barren shale
which the translator wont do
vague bramble
which the translator wont do
Codex can not only translate your code but is also able to optimize code, as a sidenote
barren shale
the scenario you are discussing is very very unlikely to happen
companies dont just go and use random stuff that can go off support in a month like that
and ai writing code still has a long way to go
do you see people discussing a scenario like what if we had 1 year to get rid of global warming
vague bramble
companies dont just go and use random stuff that can go off support in a month l...
Agreed, it is an unlikely scenario
It does happen though, just think of how suddenly discord.py was discontinued
And speed of change is one of the most important things for companies, definitely higher priority than the performance of the code as long as it still runs
barren shale
no because we would be fucked
vague bramble
and ai writing code still has a long way to go
Did you even check out Codex or is that just a bias?
barren shale
ive seen it
does really cool stuff
nothing complex tho
looks like GPT-3 but only for coding
vague bramble
looks like GPT-3 but only for coding
Basically because that's what it is
barren shale
AI making simple stuff isnt really that hard to make anymore
visual studio 2022 is using something similar
its an ai intellisense
its good sometimes
but other times it just writes random stuff that makes no sense
main brook
time to code; hrbw8!2,+\´\!€hwbsnoqk2@?(+\!
every programmer ever in a movie:
main brook
that's just ascii text
barren shale
you can move tho
main brook
i know
orchid frigate
it looked like im a guy who bombed the world
and thus changing it
but that works too
barren shale
i need some colors
orchid frigate
true
orchid frigate
also what is this
orchid frigate
this thing is suppossed to be a cube
doesnt look like a cube to me
what are you using for window managment?
orchid frigate
hmmm interesting
barren shale
cuz you can change the buffer directly
which makes it much faster than a normal C# console
this runs in like 30 fps
orchid frigate
the reason i came here was to express how angry i am at every os development book ever
as every single one is unfinished at the same places
barren shale
CHANGING THE LIGHT ANGLE
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
haydot
its now ur turn to make something like this
:OOO
orchid frigate
OpEn Gl DoEs ThIs BeTtEr
barren shale
do you think i dont know how to use opengl so i did it in the console which is a lot harder ?
orchid frigate
its now ur turn to make something like this
dude i cant run my kernel because i cant enable cpu virtualizatin
im so angry rn
orchid frigate
and i cant turn it on because no signal in uefi firmware settings
barren shale
throw the motherboard in the trash
orchid frigate
because my monitor is trash or smt
orchid frigate
throw the motherboard in the trash
i think it works on other monitors