dnd-discussion

[errant crag]

You can either have more encounters or you can have indirectly buffed spellcasters

[barren badger]

I've been trying to figure out how to force players to consume resources out of combat.

[twilit shell]

Fortunately my spellcasters are suboptimal so its just not an issue with this gang. With my powergamers I will put them through the meat grinder lol

[errant crag]

Just have more time between long rests you don't even need to make more encounters

[hot marlin]

Ah. Wait, a party that doesn't want to use resources outside of combat while playing CoS? Notoriously the adventure that focuses the least on combat?

[errant crag]

Just space out the long rests more

[barren badger]

In hindsight, i would use alternate resting rules in this module

[hot marlin]

First one question: At which point of CoS are you? Put it under spoiler tags.

[barren badger]

But we're all having fun, so i dont really even know if it matters that they're not being challegend that much?

[umbral girder]

Long rests are only once in a 24 hour period RAW too

[hot marlin]

Technically it doesn't. Being challenged might lead to more fun however and keep things fresh

[barren badger]

||We just finished vallaki. On the road I could squeeze in more encounters, but I really struggled in the urban setting||

[next solar]

are they looking for a challenge?

you can ask them directly

[barren badger]

*Shrug*

I think they're just enjoying the storytelling aspect of it!

[hot marlin]

That's normal. Inside a urban setting, you can safely discard the adventuring day and allow things to play out as social and investigation

[next solar]

then i dont think its an issue at all, it seems like they are enjoying the game

[barren badger]

I'm actually really excited to leave this section, so we'll see how it goes

[barren badger]

Just the stupid slow spell makes my monsters useless and then i get to watch them beat up my poor, innocent creatures

[errant crag]

When the DM says that Silvery Barbs is overpowered so I make a full caster because I know I'm gonna be well fed on spell slots in their game

[twilit shell]

Silvery barbs isn't OP it's just annoying

Same reason I ban Todd from my table ( I do not think I have ever actually met a real person named Todd)

[barren badger]

yeah, i dont think anyone was saying its OP.

[errant crag]

I know I'm making a bit

[barren badger]

I'm just going to start giving my creatures silvery barbs

[errant crag]

DMs who say it's OP are DMs that let you long rest too often, so I make a full caster because I know ill regularly have my spell slots refilled

[umbral girder]

With enough bad guys with Multiattack silvery barbs falls apart

[twilit shell]

As DM I wanna have fun moments too, and when silvery barbs is just saved for crits it feels really anticlimactic and cuts down on the flow of things. Vibe kill on par with someone being on tiktok when its their combat turn

[errant crag]

I don't even need to take SB

[umbral girder]

That’s why I have a bunch of guys there to eat the Silvery Barbs

Minions are important

[errant crag]

My DM has to deal with this anyways because my Barbarian has an Adamantine Breastplate

No SB required

[barren badger]

How long are your sessions every week? I play for about 3 hours weekly and I just dont see how groups have the time for 4+ counters an adventuring day

[umbral girder]

3-4

[next solar]

around 4-5 hours

[errant crag]

Adventuring Day =/= Session

[twilit shell]

3-4

[woven flint]

Hello, everyone, I hope you're all having a pleasant time!

Except if your name is Kyle. I hope you're having a bad time, Kyle. /joking

[humble cairn]

An adventuring day can last more than one session.

[errant crag]

The session isn't the adventuring day

[umbral girder]

Yeah an adventuring day is not an entire session

It’s 2-4 sessions

[errant crag]

I've had games where the players went two or 3 sessions without a long rest

[hot marlin]

What did Kyle do Tokii?

[barren badger]

I know, but like... making it through the story while also having that many combats

[woven flint]

Kyle knows.

[umbral girder]

Crimes

[errant crag]

Combats can be story relevant

[hot marlin]

Did he steal your brocoli casserole recipe?

[twilit shell]

IDK what sort of social encounters people are having that are burning resources ngl

[umbral girder]

You can have a story happen in a single day.

[barren badger]

Maybe sneaking?

[errant crag]

You can have non social, non combat encounters

[woven flint]

.. Did Kyle tell you?!

[twilit shell]

That's not really social though, infiltration seems distinct and an obvious resource burn

[barren badger]

Are there any non-combat encounters that CANT be expended without using resources?

[errant crag]

I repeat this

[umbral girder]

People needing to boost failed skill checks or improving their odds. Or spells and abilities or items to learn more of a target.

[next solar]

in my games, detect thoughts mostly

also silvery barbs, obviously

[hot marlin]

Encounters are not necessarily combats. Consider: The PCs see a group of enemies. They could fight, or they could decide to sneak past them, not seeing the point of fighting. Then, they use an invisibility spell and a pass without a trace spell. These are resources used to beat the encounters, and takes less than ten minutes to resolve.

[lavish flame]

Bardic Inspiration and spells like Enhance Ability drain abilities.

[twilit shell]

Ah the classic detect thoughts. NGL I have had maybe one player ever take detect thoughts

They made great use of it though

[remote wadi]

I think there should be a balance to it. One decent way to balance it would be to have Silvery Barbs be a second level spell

Potentially needing a third level to stop a crit?

[errant crag]

An encounter is just a scenario, a situation.
A bridge that is collapsed is an encounter.
A sheer cliff face that the road runs into can be an encounter.

[twilit shell]

If I gotta put effort to balance something I already don't like and that isn't core content, its OUTTA HERE

[barren badger]

idk if my players have ever seen a group of enemies and tried to sneak by them, loll

[humble cairn]

Exploration encounters involving hazardous environments can totally burn resources.

[hot marlin]

It's not really strong enough to be second level. Not when shield exists as a standard of defensive first level spell. That is the problem. Silvery Barbs is balanced for its level, it's also an uncreative, unfun spell that makes campaigns less fun.

[lavish flame]

I recently had an exploration encounter involving a partially buried golem surrounded by dead animals. That filled like 40 minutes of session time and was awesome.

[remote wadi]

Remind me not to play a a campaign like that because I love gunslinger

[barren badger]

i think the issue is getting players to consume resources in these scenarios. I feel like my players are creative enough to find ways to not use resources?

[remote wadi]

Mmm, true. Would be fun to see a work around

[errant crag]

Have your level 4 players come across a ravaged farmstead that has 3 Trolls roaming around it eating the livestock and bodies of slain humanoids, see how quickly they start stealthing to avoid that situation.

[twilit shell]

Well I don't include gunslinger in my main setting I run anyways ;P

[hot marlin]

The work around is to ban silvery barbs when not playing in Strixhaven and to live by the rule that player options that come from a setting book are only allowed if the campaign is within the setting

[errant crag]

My players loved this encounter and expended resources with the explicit intention of avoiding combat

Because 3 Trolls is really scary at level 4

[hot marlin]

It's a simple rule, and I don't get why it's not the norm anymore

[barren badger]

It also has like, no flavor (outside of strixhaven). -_-

[errant crag]

I don't ban it and it's not an issue at my tables

[lavish flame]

I had a similar encounter involving an occupied town. There was 6 dozen Hobgoblins in a destroyed town, and the party decided they couldnt handle it and fled around the town.

[errant crag]

If my players want to use their reaction spell that they chose I don't care, they chose the spell, it's okay for them to get value out of their decisions

If SB is completely taking the wind out of your sails then there wasn't much wind to begin with

[barren badger]

I wonder how many times this spell has been debated in this server

[umbral girder]

Yeah I had a group of Hobgoblins really mess up a level 6 party once

[hot marlin]

Again, my problem with silvery barb is not that it's too strong.

I do not believe it to be too strong. Or even strong.

[errant crag]

Yeah but that's what everyone else's problem with it is and is what's being discussed primarily

[hot marlin]

My problem is that it's an uncreative spell that encourages a style of play that I find detrimental to the game

[pulsar fossil]

boys

im starting LMOP any tips?

[humble cairn]

Not everyone in the room is a boy.

[tame estuary]

it still takes a spell slot, the only way you can abuse it if you're literally the only person who does anything the entire day

[pulsar fossil]

boys is gender neutral

:)

[humble cairn]

nah

[errant crag]

It's generally not but you intended it that way certainly

[pulsar fossil]

As a dm

[twilit shell]

when multiple mages take it, its kinda annoying af and gets really old

[barren badger]

would you call your mom a boy

[pulsar fossil]

ive actually done that 💀

[lavish flame]

maybe make the earlier encounters easier. play the monsters a little less intelligently, cuz ur level 1 party may just die otherwise

[errant crag]

Congrats nobody has any reactions now, the enemy wizard casts Fireball at 6th level

[tame estuary]

play it as is

remove parts you enjoy add in stuff you think would be fun

[twilit shell]

I just don't use any strixhaven content at all and circumvent the issue ezpz. But thats just my table and not everybody eats at everybody's house frfr

[tame estuary]

that's it, it's not a hard module

[fair plinth]

A party of two level 8s would have a pretty hard time against an aboleth in its lair right?

[woven flint]

The chad move

Let your Wizard take Silvery Barbs
And
Use legendary resistances after they make you fail to send a message

[pulsar fossil]

what about reading? like should i read some and read as i go or fully read it?

[hot marlin]

Silvery barbs is like hard drugs. It's addictive for players who indulge in it, and it negatively affects the game, and it's really hard to quit.

[barren badger]

its a short module, I would read it all

[errant crag]

I restrict setting specific races, backgrounds, and feats; but most of the time any official content goes

[tame estuary]

oh make sure you let the party know that they can pretty much run away if the combat is too hard

[pulsar fossil]

k

[woven flint]

Running is for COWARDS!!!!!

[errant crag]

The only time I've ever had a spell or something come up in a way that made me consider restricting or nerfing or banning it was Suggestion

[pulsar fossil]

after i finish reading what do you recommend for me to do

[woven flint]

Yes, I am mister sends himself flying into the mouth of a Dragon at level 1

[tame estuary]

I was once in a game where the DM is trying to run LMOP but is confused why everyone dies and repeats the first encounter 5 times

[pulsar fossil]

true

[pulsar fossil]

my party is full of optimizers it should be fine xd

[hot marlin]

Well, what are you waiting for? Share the story

[twilit shell]

Phantasmal force is my spell I have the most love-hate relationship with. The spell as written has essentially no limit besides the player's creativity

[humble cairn]

Or is very limited, depending on DM interpretation.

[errant crag]

I was a newer DM who didn't know it was concentration and was salty that the Warlock used it to make an Ogre just walk away from a big combat and leave.

[pulsar fossil]

its broken in 2024 you tell someone to let them willingly accept every spell

[twilit shell]

Illusion magic as a whole in 5e is such an issue because it is entirely DM fiat and player negotiation lol

[errant crag]

Yeah 2024 Suggestion is too broad imo

For second level at least

[humble cairn]

"The enemy tries to slam against the walls of your illusory iron maiden and stumbles right through, they justify this as a freak weakness of the construct, but that it's stil very much there."

[errant crag]

I think with the 2024 wording that Third level would be more reasonable but I still don't change or restrict or nerf it

[pulsar fossil]

cant wait to become a ancient silver dragon with nystul magic jar and suggestions

xd

[errant crag]

I feel like a lot of DMs forget that the spell makes them internally justify irrational outcomes from interacting rather than preventing them

[barren badger]

Eight hours is a long duration too

[errant crag]

Since learning that it's concentration I haven't restricted or banned or changed it in any way

[pulsar fossil]

my issue with suggestion is it clearly isnt supposed to be combat spell

at least doesnt feel like it

[errant crag]

It's most powerful outside of combat. It's plenty balanced in combat

[barren badger]

may I ask why?

[barren badger]

it even says this:

Or you could say, “Stop fighting, leave this library peacefully, and don’t return.”

[humble cairn]

"They've bewitched the boss! Get'em!"

[twilit shell]

The problem is that it produces stimuli and they treat it as real. That illusory metal spiked helmet clamped around their skull is now inflicting blinded and 2d8 psychic each round and they can't get it off

[hot marlin]

Idea: A new magic becomes popular throughout Faerûn, it allows people to make short recordings displayed as illusions. People start making dance videos, but soon create slop, short content that other people just mindlessly consume before going to the next one. The result is an extreme lowering of people's attention span, making them incapable of holding concentration more than three rounds

[errant crag]

The circumstances in my situation made that hard to justify as it was 2 Ogres ambushing the party as they were fighting two giant boa constrictors and a legendary crocodile boss

[twilit shell]

Not the worst thing in the world if you aren't running single entities though at least

[pulsar fossil]

like to be used in combat do shit like willingly accept spells and such

[blissful ibex]

And that's enough reason for it to be table banned when you're running the game

[twilit shell]

Man I wish i had that nodding cat emoji

[errant crag]

Until they move and it doesn't move with them because you can't affix the illusion to a specific point on them

[humble cairn]

The spell doesn't say it can inflict that condition, and physically interacting with the illusion allows them to pass through it. So they see through it, and justify is as an accidental hole.

[humble cairn]

Oh right, that, too. It doesn't move, it stays in one spot.

[barren badger]

This is slightly unrelated, but one of my players has find familiar and minor illusion.

When he's looking through his familiar's eyes, he creates images of what he sees so the rest of the party can see it. Like a powerpoint presentation

[long flare]

hello guys, i am brand stinkin new to DND, and im getting the gist of it pretty well, but there is something hyper specific i wanted to do with my character, and that is to wield a halberd and a shield at the same time, my class is human, and im wondering if theres a set feat to give me that ability?

[barren badger]

meabhy is very wise

[hot marlin]

That's a very good use of both those things. Illusions can genuinely be used to display information such as maps and make them interactive.

Or, you know, play chess when your characters don't have a chess set

[twilit shell]

if it produced stimuli, blocking light would block vision. Sidebar, does the spell say it can't move?

[barren badger]

Also, I hope i didn't come across as combative during the SB discussion. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and I will internalize it :]

[blissful ibex]

Yes, that's a thing they can do

[errant crag]

That is not how a single thing in this game works. The absence of that specification doesn't make the opposite inherently true

[humble cairn]

It produces stimuli that they believe but not that they actually physicalyl see. They would still see everything normally and just rationalize it away.

[twilit shell]

IT does quite literally say that it produces stimuli. Visual input is stimuli

[barren badger]

Which spell is this?

[twilit shell]

Sight, sound, touch, taste, smell, temperature

[errant crag]

Is the lack of visual input stimuli

[twilit shell]

Actually, yes

[pulsar fossil]

i think phantasmal force

[twilit shell]

But now this is more neuropsych and them choosing that term than game mechanic. But stimuli is not a codified DnD term

[blissful ibex]

Use the mounted combat rules, use a lance and a shield, reflavor the lance as a halberd
That's the closest I can get you to that mechanically >.>

[errant crag]

Okay well we're telling you all the ways that the spell you think is OP is actually fine and giving ways you can sidestep the issues you have with it as a DM, but you seem to just want to think it's OP and be frustrated by it in your games

[humble cairn]

It is not, and you know what is? The Blinded Condition, which this spell does not inflict. Spells do what they say.

[errant crag]

So do you want advice to make the spell not a headache for you RAW or do you want it to just be a headache

If you want to keep running it in a way that frustrates you and breaks your game, ways that aren't RAW, you're free to do that

[humble cairn]

Anyway, as with most illusion magic, it's up to interpretation which makes it a wild swing between really powerful or really not that powerful, as illustrated by this debate.

[twilit shell]

if it produces a phenomenon that the creature treats as real that can move with it that produces stimuli, it can do a lot with that description

The phantasm takes up no more than 10 foot cube but it occupies the mind of the creature, not a physical space

[humble cairn]

The spell gives it a specific location target and does not say it can affect anything outside of that. It is stationary.

[little stream]

My brain went to "10 foot physical space"

[errant crag]

The wording that the target has to be within 5ft of the phantasm implies that it has a location that it is at

[twilit shell]

Does it?

[humble cairn]

Range 60ft, 10ft cube, those are the range parameters in the spell rules.

[errant crag]

But by all means keep ignoring the RAW wording of the spell and allowing it to frustrate you in your games if that's what you want

[twilit shell]

It is a 60 foot range, the spell is a 10 foot size maximum phantasm. It quite literally describes making a creature as an example. The spell doesn't say it creates a stable phenomenon locked in place. Spells do what they say they do remember

[humble cairn]

And no more.

[errant crag]

Where does the spell say that it is able to move

[twilit shell]

where does it say it can't?

[humble cairn]

Spells do not affect things outside their range.

[errant crag]

Spells rarely say what they can't do

[twilit shell]

heat metal

[humble cairn]

That is not how the #dnd-rules work.

[twilit shell]

The range is the initial casting distance and the max space the phantasm occupied. Nothing about it says that that is the range it is locked into

[blissful ibex]

It technically does not state a specific location actually :x
There's no text for placement on a point, or on the ground, or a space you can see. The DM presumably places it in a place that would make sense to the Target

[humble cairn]

You must be within the range of the spell to continue affecting them.

[lavish flame]

cmon dawg what. spells gotta specify everything they cannot be used for? thats not how that works

[twilit shell]

Where is that rule

[barren badger]

I dont think minor illusion says its illusion can move, but it cannot move

[humble cairn]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619145-heat-metal

[barren badger]

[twilit shell]

Thats 5.5e

[humble cairn]

The most current rules, yes.

[severe rampart]

Major Illusion is the one that can move iirc

[blissful ibex]

Incorrect unless the spell specifies this https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/spells#Range

[barren badger]

Correct. I think illusions can only move if they say they can

[humble cairn]

I'm talking about Heat Metal, specifically in response.

[twilit shell]

There is nothing in base 5e concentration that says a spell ends once the range is exceeded

[twilit shell]

yeah 5e heat metal has no max range for the reapply

[errant crag]

I love people not talking about what edition of the game they're referring to until one benefits their argument

[twilit shell]

You didn't ask! 😄

[errant crag]

This shows to me that you are explicitly arguing in bad faith

[twilit shell]

If I am describing the version of the spell with that mechanic, safe to assume I am using that version

[blissful ibex]

That's correct then; as the spell specifies it must be in range on later turns to retrigger the damage

[humble cairn]

When a spell has a range and an area, it does have to be a specific area within that range and usually the player picks.

[severe rampart]

I mean, it's pretty reasonable to assume newest (and most recent) version

[errant crag]

I agree

[humble cairn]

Suffice it to say, Phantasmal Force is not clearly overpowered, it is just a highly interpretable spell one way or another.

[twilit shell]

Anyways big jeremy crawford has specified that phantasmal force does produce a moving phenomena that remains locked to a creature, its a mental apparition and not an actual produced illusion

[twilit shell]

That is the point I was getting at, it is very interpretable and has a lot of nuance for fiat one way or another

[humble cairn]

Yes, you could always argue that the creature believes they are blindfolded and so they close their own eyes, but you could also argue differently and it's a grey enough area that many arguments are valid interpretations.

[errant crag]

Then you can continue to run it in a way that you have said frustrates you

So pop off I guess

[humble cairn]

So we've agreed since my very first statement about it.

[twilit shell]

At no point was that in disagreement tbh, you were just stating incorrect mechanics

[errant crag]

The target rationalizes illogical outcomes, the spell does not prevent illogical outcomes

[humble cairn]

You can believe that.

[twilit shell]

I shall, I'ma drop this here because no one really is invested in changing our own opinions here one way or anoher so not much point continuing comrades

[errant crag]

Summoning a red hot cage around a creature doesn't stop them from moving through it, but if they do move through it they'll rationalize how they were able to in a way that makes it still seem real to them.

I'm not gonna start ruling something in a way that is incorrect because someone who is ruling it that way tried to justify doing so

[twilit shell]

If they treat it as real they wouldn't walk through it

[dim flicker]

@native wolf i don't think i can reply in #dnd-advertisements so i'll just ping you here, but i enjoyed the quiz you made! very clean design + just the right amt of questions. i got sorcerer btw. i'll use this in my server's question of the day if you dont mind.

[errant crag]

Is that a universal fact? All living beings would objectively behave that way with no variation whatsoever?

[twilit shell]

Maybe you walk through solid objects, who am I to say. I won't argue with you on that

[errant crag]

Also they can just like

Take a study action and see it's an illusion

So

[twilit shell]

Well, if they pass anyways thats the intent yeah

[humble cairn]

#dnd-discussion message

[errant crag]

Like I said they seem to just want to run it in a way that makes it broken and frustrating for whatever reason

[twilit shell]

going to sleep my friends may you have a wonderful whatever time it is

[dim flicker]

sleep well snowpwn!

[twilit shell]

I will! Gotta sleep well to wake up enthusiastic to provide capital for my company

[errant crag]

That moment when Shape Water doesn't specify that it can't be used to freeze somebody's eyeballs

[sinful crater]

What is the fastest way a player has completely derailed your campaign plans?

[errant crag]

Only time I can think of is when they left a dungeon in the middle of the dungeon after alerting the criminal inhabitants of their presence

They left the dungeon to long rest in town so I had all the dungeons humanoid criminal inhabitants pack up and leave the dungeon in the night

So the players came back to an empty dungeon

[little stream]

...was it darkest

[native wolf]

Thats cool. Thank you for the feedback. It was a fun project to do.

[errant crag]

My players tend to respect the game I have presented to them and if they purposely tried to derail it, I would not continue to humor said players

[errant crag]

What

[little stream]

Nvm, was trying to pun darkest dungeon but it didnt work

[errant crag]

It was a pretty dark dungeon

[barren badger]

was it... the darkest dungeon?

[errant crag]

I'm done with this bit

[sinful crater]

the dungeon just got up and left fr and did the players eventually figure out what happened or just assume it was a glitch in the world?

[errant crag]

There are no glitches in the world

They eventually found out what happened and tracked them down to their new hideout

[sinful crater]

alright alright so did it make the next encounter harder or more interesting wdy think

[errant crag]

Yeah it made the encounter harder because the "boss" of that dungeon had rendezvoused with the rest of the gang who was at the second location

So there were more enemies in that encounter now

I mean the first dungeon wasn't completely empty but all the humanoid inhabitants (which were most of the occupants) left

[still plover]

Hit #find-a-game for all the details. A summary:

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

Gotta be honest, there's a lot more prospective players than DMs with slots available.

How many times have you run a game?

No worries, D&D's not that hard to pick up. A bit of practice and you can get that rating up,no problem.

[limber trail]

I mean the way you learn how to DM is by practice.

[fossil hollow]

the dm is less the boss and more the referee

[still plover]

Meanwhile, hang out, have chats, show yourself to be a cool entity, it'll help up your chances of getting picked for a game listed here.

[fossil hollow]

youre simply the one narrating the actions of th players

[errant crag]

I am the god of my table, my players bend to my whim!!!

[little stream]

Also remember almost most if not all key points...sounds exhausting

[errant crag]

You don't have to have all the rules memorized to DM, it just helps

[still plover]

They will bend or perish, my lord.

[limber trail]

I mean you don't need to remember everything. In my sessions I have genuinely ended up with about 15 tabs linked to different books from fact checking specific rules, spells, features, etc.

[errant crag]

Dungeon Master?
I'm more of a Dungeon Mastermind

Prepare for a Dungeon Masterclass

I've heard some people in prison make paper spinners to use

What kinds of characters did people play as in prison

[still plover]

Wrong channel. But if you pop to #dnd-newcomers it's a magic trick.

[severe rampart]

I think the voice telling me to start a third campaign is winning

[flint ledge]

Well the voice of reason was lost on you a while ago... (Jk)

[limber trail]

Do it

I’m slowly being overtaken by the idea to start a second campaign but I think I’ll wait a little before I do

[severe rampart]

the voices are multiplying...

[jolly canyon]

I started a second. Both are bi weekly so it's not too bad

[jolly canyon]

"Doooooo iiiiiittttt" spectral disembodied voice

[severe rampart]

I have a campaign Friday Morning, Saturday Afternoon and Monday Morning... what's another one?

[reef tundra]

I once ran five. You got this

[severe rampart]

I can do Sunday morning or Saturday morning

[severe rampart]

That's different, you're better than me 😔

[lethal otter]

Good morning everyone

[jolly canyon]

Friday Night and Saturday Afternoon on unaligned Biweekly sched so it feels like weekly

[lethal otter]

how ye all

[jolly canyon]

I is good tbh. Tired. Bed time calls to me

[severe rampart]

Maybe but I'm already running two weekly games

[severe rampart]

The voices inside they tell me to relinquish control

[lethal otter]

I mean, Talk back to assert dominance

[jolly canyon]

Oh and I'm hoping to be a player in a Sunday Drakkenheim game. No clue what that setting is about and I think it's #third-party but I'll take any campaign I can get.

[reef tundra]

No I'm not >:(

[odd valley]

the voices in my head are telling me to run for the thrill of it

and to push up that hill in search for the thrill of it

[lethal otter]

Run for the Hills

where is the channel where i can discuss a monstor i homebrewd

[severe rampart]

yes you are I got like 3-4 months of DMing experience 😭

[severe rampart]

#homebrew

[limber trail]

Five isn’t even shocking anymore. I’ve been desensitised. I’ve seen Uritz

[severe rampart]

Well that is his job

[reef tundra]

Oh I see. Well... uhhhh....
It's attitude that counts :D

[jolly canyon]

I wonder who runs the most here for free

[lethal otter]

3 months? Damn. How is that getting along

[limber trail]

Yeah but if you’re running 2 campaigns you’ve got like 8 months of experience really because it adds up

[severe rampart]

So far been great, 10 sessions in Curse of Strahd, 2 in Phandelver

[severe rampart]

I've only been running Phandelver for 3-4 weeks

[jolly canyon]

We're the same! 3 mo for me total

[severe rampart]

and you want to run a third campaign already? what 😭

[severe rampart]

Yeah that's why!

[reef tundra]

Almost 6 years for me

[limber trail]

I think I’m at or around 10 months these days. Last night was my 40th near-weekly session.

[lethal otter]

Nice, ever tought of trying to homebrew a campaign

[severe rampart]

That's the third campaign idea

[reef tundra]

Although, on another dnd server I know someone who has been playing dnd longer than my dad has been alive

[severe rampart]

Dungeon Delving to hunt and harvest monsters for gold and glory, using Heliana's Guide to Monster Hunting

[hot gate]

I know I'm just a voice drifting in the wind, but take it slooooow

That's not enough time to make sure that you're not overexerting yourself

[severe rampart]

That's what I'm tryna tell him

the more time I get before a session the more I make the encounters more difficult for players

I mean, my most recent addition is a failed lich

adding that to the ||18th level spellcaster, adult white dragon, martial custom boss, Strahd himself, cultists using circle magic, and vampire spawn||

[lethal otter]

dming is bacicly my tism obsession now. I have been dming for 2-3 years. I Am now preping my 4th home game. I run one shots semi professionally at conventions for my countries dnd organization wich is about 4 weekends a year. I also dm and write for a more local organization wich i do a year long campaign every month + dming at conventions as well.

[jolly canyon]

Nice!

[severe rampart]

That's nice

[lethal otter]

its really cool

tho sometimes it gets to busy and i have to cancel. Especially now that it is exam season

[jolly canyon]

I am run for my friends online, I will be running for some new people I met online and I'm teaching my wife and sister how to play irl but it's very inconsistent. Started in February it's been fun.

[severe rampart]

I only run online games, D&D isn't a big thing here so 😔

[lethal otter]

Being an adult must be easier to play dnd. THere is no school in the way

[hot gate]

haha ahahaha

[lethal otter]

Here neather. But the small comunety is fun

[hot gate]

no

[fossil hollow]

its worse

[lethal otter]

What do you mean its worse

[fossil hollow]

work

[hot gate]

You've got a lot more responsibilities

[fossil hollow]

family

[jolly canyon]

Pfft. Full time job, wife, obligations. I

[lethal otter]

Yes, but when you get home from work you don't need to do homework

[fossil hollow]

taxes. rent.

[limber trail]

lol
Lmao

[hot gate]

You sweet summer child

[fossil hollow]

you do, its just not called homework

[lethal otter]

?

[lavish flame]

you'd think

[jolly canyon]

You likely won't understand now. But one day you will and you'll think back on that comment and laugh. It's innocent enough though.

[hot gate]

Suffice to say that no, you're very likely not going to have more time. But let's not get too far away from D&D.

[fossil hollow]

you have to deal with:
work, taxes, rent, food, family if you have kids, any girlfriends/boyfriends, friends, amongst other things

combine that with your dnd mates also having to deal with the same things

[reef tundra]

Ha....

[limber trail]

And even if that works for you, you’ll need all of those to line up for four+ people

[lethal otter]

it is one of the reasons i am single by choice

Anyway, i think Deva is right

lets not get to far from dnd

[fossil hollow]

ok, but dnd is a group game. other players might have family or significant others

[severe rampart]

this is peak D&D here

scheduling

[lethal otter]

yes indeed

[fossil hollow]

remember, the biggest bbeg of dnd is scheduling issues.

[lethal otter]

my home group disbanded over it actually

[fossil hollow]

adulthood throws that into the grave

[hot gate]

Organizing games definitely gets harder the older everyone is, because of compounding time conflicts.

[lethal otter]

We all had different schedules due to all having to go to school at different times, having to do home work and our parents having a hold of our schedules half the time.

[lavish flame]

yeah, finding a good time for everybody in a group with a wide variety of careers is a nkghtmare.

[lethal otter]

so it just never gets easy? Ive always been told you can more consistently play as an adult

[hot gate]

Well, perhaps more consistent, if everyone puts in a lot of effort. But not more often if that makes sense.

[lethal otter]

It does

[lavish flame]

maybe if you're retirement age? school just kinda gets replaced by work and homework just gets replaced with bodily upkeep and household responsibilities

[lethal otter]

Me and my home group theoreticly played once a month. Practicly it was once every four months

[severe rampart]

I think they meant that adults would be more committed to a campaign? just guessing, though

[fossil hollow]

in my irl group, roughly less than 5 years out of college:

• I work in framing, and also run irl games
• My one friend works as an electrician, and has to go out of town for months at a time
• my other friend works with kids, and also has nother job
• one of my ther friends is looking for a job
• the two others are in their last year of high school

[hot gate]

Oh alright, fair enough. I do manage to play quite a bit more than that with a full time job, just because I choose to make a lot of time for D&D.

[fossil hollow]

thats not even including their other events and stuff

thats just work/school

[lethal otter]

I did to, but both my parents and the parents of my friend don't see playing dnd as a full fledged hobby like playing an instrument or practicing sports

[lavish flame]

yeah I basically dont have one of my days off free cuz I want to play D&D, so I crammed 2 games within the day

[severe rampart]

How's that working out if I may ask

because I once had two or three campaigns back to back

[lethal otter]

So even when my friends are like "hey i have dnd next week" the parents plan something the day before where at least one person has to call off. And then we are not even talking about digital play where my friends had different time zones.

[hot gate]

Yeah different time zones definitely complicates things

[lavish flame]

I get to run and play every week, and I still have a free day to hang out with my partner or play a game or something. I like doing 1 session as DM and 1 as Player. 2 as DM would be too much. I wouldn't mind 2 as Player.

[lethal otter]

playing every week is the dream for me

[severe rampart]

In my experience timezones never really bothered me, I'm in SEA, a player of mine is in poland, one is in india, and three of them are americans

[lavish flame]

Yeah timezones make stuff complicated, but with determined (or foolish) enough players, itll sort itself out. My group is mostly Americans, but between my 2 games, we have a player in Malaysia and the UK. They're both content with playing at diabolical hours.

[lethal otter]

We only could play on saturdays frorm 18.00 fro 21.00 (gmt+1) meaning that for the american in our group it was from 11.00 to 14.00.
Me being the oldest of my old group meaning that the parents of each of my players had control on weather or not they got to play. Including my parents. It was a (if i may say so) a crëpe show

[jolly canyon]

My upcoming table has 2 players with like 10-11 hour time difference. I don't know if uhh they'll be able to commit for long but if they do then that'll be awesome. Good people though so I'm down to give it a shot

[hot gate]

If everyone's committed up-front that's great, but imagine needing to move the time one hour back or forth.

[lethal otter]

but now i started a new IRL group with people who are as into the game as i am. So hoping that will work out

And still consistently dming for organization

I wrote a verry spooky one shot for an event called dnd after dark

[reef tundra]

Wishing you luck!

And great fun

[noble cave]

Can i only cast 1 levelled spell per turn ?

According to 2014 rules

[limber trail]

In the 2024 rules you can only expend one spell slot per turn. So if you can cast spells without spell slots, you can keep going.

In 2014 it's slightly different again - I believe the rule is, if you cast a spell with a spell slot as an action, you can't cast another spell w/ a spell slot as a bonus action, and vice versa.

[noble cave]

Is there anything that i can do to cast one levelled spell as an action and the other as a bonus action in one turn

[limber trail]

So in 2014 rules you can in theory cast multiple levelled spells per turn. The most common example is using your reaction - counterspell, silvery barbs, shield, feather fall can all be used on your turn.

[humble cairn]

Slightly incorrect. The rule only triggers if you cast a spell, any spell, as a Bonus Action.

[limber trail]

Ah, that's my bad - I just pulled the exact wording up and yes you're correct

[humble cairn]

In 2014 you can cast as many leveled spells as you have Actions to do, the most common way to do multiple is to use Action Surge. The only thing that triggers a rule is when you cast any spell as a Bonus Action. If you do so the only other spell you can cast for that entire turn is a 1 Action Cantrip.

If you happened to be able to have three Actions you could cast three leveled spells if you wanted.

[noble cave]

Is there any feat or multiclass so i can use my bonus action spell too ?

[humble cairn]

Elaborate. Use your Bonus Action spell and what?

[noble cave]

And action spell levelled both

[humble cairn]

No.

[limber trail]

Not using official content.

[noble cave]

Not even spell scrolls ?

[humble cairn]

No.

[limber trail]

There's homebrew out there but it's homebrew and basically every campaign will not allow it

[noble cave]

I see

[limber trail]

If your DM allows Tal'Dorei Reborn content (which I would not assume that they will, because it's third party) the spelldriver feat bypasses that restriction but again, third party and also has a very high level restriction behind it

[golden mantle]

where do i find online oneshots?

[humble cairn]

The 2024 rules are much cleaner and easier to understand. 1 spell slot to cast spells per turn. Spell scrolls and abilities that grant casts without slots byoass it.

[golden mantle]

and where do i announce them

[lusty tendon]

Idk why i get most of my dnd character inspiration from either seeing a gimmick and building my character around it or by basing it iff of mtg cards

[lusty tendon]

Other than action surge if i last remember

[golden mantle]

the mtg thing is insanely valid, i have npcs based off of mtg

[limber trail]

I agree, much better execution of the spell. My one and only hangup is that not being able to reaction cast counterspell on your turn limits the ability to have fun counterspell battles.

[limber trail]

Action surge doesn't bypass it in 2024

[lusty tendon]

Oh nice

[humble cairn]

What do you mean?

[golden mantle]

#dnd-discussion

[humble cairn]

Action Surge doesn't allow the Magic Action.

[lusty tendon]

Action surge from the fighter in 2014 bypassed the rule of 1 leveled spell per turn

[humble cairn]

There was never any such rule.

"One leveled spell per turn" was never a rule in 2014 and it is not a rule in 2024 either. The 2014 rule revolves around Bonus Action Spells and is slightly tricky to explain and remember which is why the erroneous "one leveled spell per turn" gets remembered. In 2024 it's much easier, you can only spend one spell slot per turn.

[flint ledge]

#find-a-game will help you

[golden mantle]

thank you

[lusty tendon]

I swear i read that somewhere it was like 1 of like 2 ways to cast more than once per turn

[humble cairn]

It is, because there is a limitation on Actions, not because there's any limitation on casting leveled spells per turn.

[lusty tendon]

Ah so i also looked it up the limitations was from bonus actions and actions not multiple actions per turn

[humble cairn]

Correct, the rule was about casting Bonus Action spells.

[lusty tendon]

Yeah i miss 2014 sorcerer shenanigans

[humble cairn]

An easy way for anyone to cast two leveled spells per turn in 2014 was to cast a leveled Action spell and then a leveled Reaction spell.

[lusty tendon]

“Ill counter spell my own spell… yes i know i doesnt work like that”

Actually i just looked that up you can counterspell your own spell weirdly (2014)

The more you know

[humble cairn]

Cast an Action spell, then retreat from an enemy, provoking an OA, which you then cast Shield against.

Two leveled spells, two spell slots, no rule broken in 2014 rules.

[lusty tendon]

Or you could just make a crazy complex turn using the fine limits of the rules to mess with your dm (dont do that, your dm is sensitive)

[humble cairn]

I made a complex turn that I was quite proud of, not to mess with my DM, though.

#dnd-discussion message

[fossil hollow]

ouroboros almost got ya that day...

[lusty tendon]

See now that is what i want to see online from dnd content not the “i cast 20 spells on my turn to deal with one combat scenes” it honestly gets me tired of seeing them as 5.5 isnt the best but does cover a ton of issues that 5e had

[humble cairn]

I was nervous about that lich and PWK, so like .. we worked hard to shut that guy down.

[fossil hollow]

the pwk got counterspelled...

[humble cairn]

And didn't we burn his Reaction so he couldn't CS the CS?

[fossil hollow]

yeap...

[lethal otter]

I have returned

[humble cairn]

Even Blinded and Restrained, he was still kind of nasty.

[fossil hollow]

yall bullied his dracolich form too

[humble cairn]

You gave that thing Dimension Door!

Were you anticipating it being bottled up in a Force Wall?

[fossil hollow]

he didnt doo much outside of a single breath attck :(

no, just more breath weapons and hits

[fossil hollow]

i always expect someone to do something with wall of force when i pull up a dragon anyway

[coral holly]

hiii guyss

new to the serverr

[spice crane]

Hello

[spice crane]

Are you playing dnd?

[lethal otter]

Greetings

how be ye

[flint ledge]

Greetings

[near shell]

what time is it for everybody

[still plover]

Stop.

https://hammertime.cyou/

[dapper cloud]

It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel!

[spice crane]

greeting! how are you?

[lethal otter]

I am doing alright. What about you

[drowsy rapids]

Not sure if this is the right channel butttt.... Is there any specific way, ghosts appear? I specifically mean the Ancestrial Guardian Barbarian subclass, do their ancestors just appear with some kind of specified effect or can I make it up for my specific character?

[hot gate]

It's up to you how to flavor your abilities

[gray granite]

Does anyone know a good level 1 to 18/20 campaign with a travel focus?

[spice crane]

Savage Tide is probably your best bet if you want a full 1–20 campaign with a big travel exploration focus.

[reef tundra]

Absolutely

Wait I misunderstood the original question

Ignore me

[flint ledge]

Too smart to read?

[reef tundra]

What does that mean?

Have I been condescending before?

[still plover]

A good natured jibe about making assumptions, I hope.

[flint ledge]

Yeah it's just a joking jab at Amity

[hot gate]

We really need a jingle about text tone

[reef tundra]

Do I come off as smart?

[flint ledge]

I think I'm making these references to the wrong crowd though I'm too used to my usual friend group

[hot gate]

In the absence of lots of additional context with which to interpret text, that's probably a good assumption.

[reef tundra]

Very well, I will attempt to forget it happened

[hot gate]

What sort of skill check is that? /s

[flint ledge]

In case you're worried tldr it's just when someone does something silly or not so smart we say "too smart to X?"

[still plover]

So off topic but I saw ai;dr the other day and y'know, I did giggle.

[normal junco]

on the upside, playful jabs like that mean people are comfortable and familiar enough with you that they can be playful like that.

[cobalt owl]

Crazy work that DND Beyond is axing their international shipping arm

[flint ledge]

Huh they are? What did I miss?

[undone rain]

So we all know elves dont sleep, they go into a semi concious state, like some meditation shit. But my question is can they even sleep at all if they wanted to

[flint ledge]

I mean given the sleep spell and similar doesn't work on them from what I recall they might not be able to

[normal junco]

weren't international shipping things being handled by some WotC site thing instead of DnDBeyond? i thought they redirected people outside of the US

[undone rain]

Good point

[cobalt owl]

https://dndbeyond-support.wizards.com/hc/en-us/sections/48784308324884-Ravenloft-pre-orders-for-non-EU-UK-international-customers

Whatever this crock of shit is

No I'm not buying the book twice just because you refuse to sell and ship to what you consider a second rate country. I just won't buy it ig

[delicate owl]

That's neat.

[flint ledge]

So they're axing everything outside of the EU and UK?

[cobalt owl]

And NA

[normal junco]

its just Hasbro being Hasbro. non-US countries often get completely screwed for distribution on things like Transformers and whatever as well.

[cobalt owl]

Asia Africa Australia South America are getting shafted

What a time to be alive

[void crown]

Are dragon wings limbs?

[normal junco]

yes.

[still plover]

Yup.

[normal junco]

however, a tail is not a limb, as it is part of the spine

[void crown]

I just saw someone say they prefer eastern dragons with for legs and two wings and then say 6 limbed dragons are stupid and I always thought the wings counted as limbs so wanted to make sure

[flint ledge]

I would guess they're laying off the staff of that department

[void crown]

Ok thank you

Oh btw0

[normal junco]

"its a cost saving measure!"
cool. so you're passing the savings onto us?
"..."

[void crown]

Does anyone play d&d irl anymore i have only really found discord games and I was curios on tips on finding some in person

For young adults not kids just be clear

[still plover]

For an in-person game you're best off looking for boardgame shops, hobby shops, school groups, libraries and social sites like Facebook.

[normal junco]

i play in an IRL game once every two weeks with a break in the summer. i also run a game IRL at a neighbourhood event monthly with a break in the summer

[atomic kayak]

The majority of my dnd is irl

And even a good portion of my online stuff is just for when parts of my irl groups can't travel

[normal junco]

however, my in person sources for games are few and far between. the library only handles games for kids, the closest gaming/hobby shop is over an hour away by highway, schools don't run extracurricular activities (and i'm WAY too old to take part in anything like that)

[flint ledge]

The one thing I truly don't enjoy about dnd is hasbro

[normal junco]

i just don't like online games. i miss the tactile feel of miniatures and the 3D space

as it was, here in Canada, it would be cheaper for me to buy a physical book MSRP retail and then buy the digital version separately. once duty, exchange, taxes, shipping, brokerage, etc. are factored in i could have bought a second physical book above the cost of the dndbeyond bundle.

although that's moot since right now i'm only trying to pick up the remaining 5e books i'm missing via second hand and used.

[normal junco]

WotC doesn't even participate in FreeRPG Day. of course they're 100% profit driven like their Hasbro overlords.

[sharp robin]

Hot take

DND is an horrible storytelling device. Dices do not compliment a steady flow of a story whatsoever

[minor cargo]

I think an idea like that needs a bit of nuance. Like what makes a “good” storytelling device? Heck what even is a “device” in this sense? And is D&D even a singular one?

[crystal latch]

I agree with the first sentence but the second does not make sense

[glass granite]

I mean, I think the point of dnd is that you don’t follow a regular story, but instead live one out

[crystal latch]

The proper term for what TTRPGs in general should be doing is emergent storytelling

[glass granite]

So yeah, it’s not great for a traditional story, such as like a book, film, or other text, but it builds a story instead of telling one.

[crystal latch]

i.e. no one is actually "telling" a story, but a plot is happening as a result of your actions

I do think there is a case to be made that modern D&D struggles with this

[glass granite]

I’m on the belief that it’s just fine. Not exceptional, not bad.

But it’s fun, at least for me.

[little stream]

If said dice is what making it awful

Said dice could make it great no?

[glass granite]

No not inherently. The chance to fail, and reliance on pure probability, can make something a poor storytelling game. Imagine if every page you read in a book there was a random chance the main character just flops the entire book’s plot.

IMO, dice by principle cannot make a perfect storytelling system, but it’s its own type of charm and fun to make a story rather than telling one’s

[flint ledge]

I mean dnd isn't supposed to be a perfect story telling game, it's also a dice game

[delicate owl]

The story is made through the dice and actions of the DM and players. It isn't a device used to tell a specific story, it's a device used to create a story together with everyone involved.

If you want a story, read a book.

[glass granite]

Or write a book

[crystal latch]

The important part is that because it's a dice-based game, failure is a real option and there is no single author who decides what happens. The game is a simulation of a real fantasy world where things really happen to real fictional characters, some of whom you control

[little stream]

I remember what Karen said to Jon Bernthal in that one interview

The flaws is what makes a story great, or something similar. Can't remember lol

[shy stirrup]

Once upon a time, there was a man who lived in a house
rolls d100
Tragically, he was killed in a fire
The End

[crystal latch]

By this I mean that things don't happen because they must for a specific narrative/story beat, they happen because they do
No intentional themes, plot contrivances, whatever, just cause and effect and you against the world

[reef tundra]

Ohhh I see. My b. It’s no problem then

[reef tundra]

Intelligence. But you have to fail it to forget

[eager marsh]

It can be a strength check instead of you know where to hit

[reef tundra]

Genius

Well, not anymore after rolling a 20 on it

[thorn osprey]

Question: Does every adventure NEED a bbeg? Or can you run an adventure without one

[reef tundra]

Nope! Villains aren’t actually needed. While they can easily elevate a story and help things stay dynamic, those can be achieved without one

[atomic kayak]

There's a difference between a villain and a bbeg fwiw

[reef tundra]

I’ve played in a few campaigns with no central overarching villain, and most of them were fun

[atomic kayak]

You can have a plethora of villains and no bbeg

[reef tundra]

Whoops I meant main central villain

BBEG villain

[mystic crystal]

In my experience my players usually focus up more and get more invested if there’s a BBEG. They gotta have someone to focus their murder hobo attention on

[still plover]

Maybe the real baddie was the capitalism we found along the way.

[mystic crystal]

That’s why every game needs a tax man

[atomic kayak]

Brennan is that you?

[mystic crystal]

Who’s a polymorphed tarrasque so the players learn the consequences of their actions.

No that’s Mr. Smith he used to be an agent hunting Mr Anderson but he took a slow mo karate punch to the chest and turned into numbers

[wicked mulch]

D&D Question of the Day (D&D Beyond: Character Classes):

If you start at level 3 or higher, what should you write on your character sheet in addition to your class?
A. Your subclass
B. Your passive Perception
C. Your trinket number
D. Your alignment twice

[mystic crystal]

A

[thorn osprey]

A

[shy stirrup]

E. Your 300 page wall of text backstory

[atomic kayak]

You can reasonably write all or none of those on your sheet.

A lot of people don't write their subclass on their sheet, just any abilities it gives them

Same way they write any other abilities

[glass granite]

A is most correct
B is second most correct
C is third most correct
D is prolly wrong

[delicate owl]

Something about alignment not mattering or whatever

[hollow stone]

writing your alignment twice is insane 😭

[fading idol]

I love the variety of creatures in DND. It feels like my favourite one changes every week

[limber trail]

Well A and B really

[fading idol]

I like trolls

Especially the ones in the tome of beast books by the Kobold Press

They have lots of cool stuff

[buoyant frost]

The worst curse I have seen in DND was done by legends of avantris, all water taste oily including your saliva

[mystic crystal]

Gotta make sure the party knows I’m chaotic evil

[thorn osprey]

I humbly offer you the Void

[analog zenith]

guys i have a super cool dnd 5e wizard high elf called amorian elmsong what should his lore be?

[flint ledge]

How about the abyss instead

[thorn osprey]

This is a new one to me LOL

[fickle ocean]

hello chat. in a joke campaign, should the consequence for insulting a princess be a tpk? my irl dm seems to think so and it's a big argument rn. basically i alone took her special hammer and played with it before giving it back. then later when we rescued her from a cage i kept her trapped in the cage until she signed a contract to pay me extra. should the whole party be executed or just my character? or what should the consequence be? keep in mind this is a totally unserious campaign

[flint ledge]

I mean the abyss is basically one big curse

[thorn osprey]

What does it to do?

[analog zenith]

whole party get shot from a catapult into a endless void

[flint ledge]

I should clarify I meant the place as a joke

[thorn osprey]

Ohhhhhhhh

[fickle ocean]

he tpk'd the entire party and blamed me for it because i was "being cruel to her"

[analog zenith]

im new what does tpk mean?

[fickle ocean]

party wipe

[bronze canopy]

Total Party KO or Total Party Kill

[analog zenith]

i see

[loud tendon]

It depends.. in BG3 insulting a certain npc gets your entire party wished to death. So, sometimes actions have extreme consequences.
Perhaps there will be a chance for the party to escape or make amends

[fickle ocean]

it makes sense when youre dealing with a powerful deity who is obviously described as mystical or with unusual aura but this was basically just a dwarf with a blue beard. we followed her back to her city but there wasn’t a trial or any rolls he said "you all would’ve just been sentenced to death or life in prison by a kangaroo court" with no rolls and no way to talk our way out of it

before the session we were told we were dying and to make new characters before starting. i was like dang i killed everyone ig

[woven flint]

Not all deities are as fickle

Fizban (Bahamut) would probably just laugh and carry on
He's the CEO of "I have no enemies"

[crimson gulch]

If royalty wants t
You dead they got the means to do that

[flint ledge]

Well that's ||VLAAKITH||

[woven flint]

Hmm, i see the context, but even if it was YOUR actions your party did kinda standby and do nothing and could also definitely be under the case of "Guilty by association"

A Princess could be so entitled to have you all executed for it

[mystic crystal]

Sounds like the perfect excuse to make juniors of your current characters and overthrow the government

[woven flint]

^^^

[frank spire]

Hey guys

[loud tendon]

I avoided saying the name to not give game spoilers...

[frank spire]

Could someone explain to me how to get into playing DND? I realy Wana try it it seems fun but idk where to look for party or sum it would be my first time playing

Also is there like a mage class? I love any magic related stuff I would love to be cute pink mage or sum

[rough basalt]

theres several classes with spellcasting

The textbook "mage" would be Wizard

[frank spire]

Witch one is most like friren

[flint ledge]

Mb censored it, but what I mean is that that's a character that I think the game makes pretty clear not to mess with

[rough basalt]

Wizard

[blazing holly]

Whats a friren ?

[rough basalt]

Tho Wizards in dnd have spellbooks.

[rough basalt]

I assume they mean frieren

[next solar]

wizard
the main thing about frieren is that she goes out to collect spells. the only class that can learn spell from scrolls is wizard

[blazing holly]

that doesn't make it any clearer

[rough basalt]

its a fantasy anime

[blazing holly]

ah, say no more

[frank spire]

Okay cool I want to try that class then

And uh how do I start? With dnd

[next solar]

id start with reading the free rulebook or watching a video on how to play dnd

then you can either make a table with your friends who are also interested to try or find a game in #find-a-game

[blazing holly]

Find some like minded friends, read the free rulebook, get some pens, paper and a set of dice, there you go

[frank spire]

Also is that PFP the angle from ishuzuku reviewers ?

[next solar]

it is

[frank spire]

Peak

[shrewd grotto]

guys, are kobolds small

they are, right?

[frank spire]

It was quite fun anime

[next solar]

the worldbuilding is surprisingly good

[flint ledge]

Yeah they are

[blazing holly]

basically the same thing we did 30 years ago, only we had to get our books the hard way

[mystic crystal]

I wish I got into D&D at a younger age

[flint ledge]

I think a lot of people do

[next solar]

im grateful to get into dnd at all

without dnd my life would have been completely different

[mystic crystal]

I know my original friend group would have eaten this stuff up in high school

[blazing holly]

This. Doesn't really matter when you get into it

[mystic crystal]

Younger me with copious amounts of free time begs to differ lol

[blazing holly]

Just means I get to reminisce about THAC0, creating a bazillion lvl 1 characters and feel really really old

[glossy otter]

Well. I had to bring an end to a campaign today. But I think it was for the best imo

[twilit shell]

Sometimes you gotta put old yeller down behind the barn

[glossy otter]

Indeed. Though I suppose it was also because I just wasn't enjoying it as much as I thought I was, and it impacted everything around it

[blazing holly]

Quite, everyone should enjoy the game, including the DM

[woven flint]

Mhh, yes 🧐

[rough basalt]

Yeah i just cancelled a couple of my own stuff

[glossy otter]

Oddly enough it was a module out of anything, though I think it's just because I found homebrew campaigns to be more enjoyable

[rough basalt]

Came to the realization I need to work around my mental eccentricities

Rather than try and brute force multiple games

[glossy otter]

tbh I mostly just set up the current campaigns because there's not much to do around me. But then again I've still got 4 of my campaigns running, one about to start

[shy stirrup]

Know your limit
Play within it

[glossy otter]

Mind the creation of one campaign and the death of another was more poor timing

[next solar]

how does one run 4+ campaigns at the same time? i can barely manage one

[glossy otter]

Eh, Bi weekly if anything

it helps because nothing really changes per week asides from the story

[rough basalt]

Decided from now on, I'm just gonna take the most advantage of my creative times to just make a crapload of adventures to use during my downtimes like modular ones like the FR ones.

[blazing holly]

Yeah, I could never get into modules, myself, even when I tried running them out of time constraints

[glossy otter]

For me my current 4 are Strixhaven, Feywild, Ravenloft and Forgotten Realms

[next solar]

i like basing my campaigns off modules, just so that i dont have to make everything from scratch

my current campaign is based off stonehell for labyrinth lord

[rough basalt]

Rn I'm not in a creative boom so I handled a lot of the hole I dug myself in.

Shelving my horror campaign and a one shot of another system.

[next solar]

how is your strixhaven going? i ran strixhaven in the past but dropped it after the first year

[glossy otter]

Suprisingly well. It's a lot more chaotic as I'm running it as a test for a reactive campaign where the prep is based purely on what they do

Though it does have a proper beginning and end

[next solar]

what is the structure of your sessions? when i ran strixhaven it was basically just the most exciting days of the year, so there were many timeskips involved

[glossy otter]

For me it's week by week but timeskipped to either important classes that foreshadow the plot or important moments that develop the PC's/overarching storylines

[next solar]

i see, thanks for answering my questions

[glossy otter]

no probs

[slow saffron]

Apologies if this is not the right place to ask a question like this, but has WOTC stated if there will be an Early Access period for the Horrors Within stuff, like there were with previous 5.5 products?

[glossy otter]

yes, june 2nd is the release on dnd beyond for master tier

[tall delta]

I don’t know if this is bad or not but I just realized my monk has the lowest hp of the part. The wizard has more hp than me

[slow saffron]

Tysm!

[twilit sail]

Bro what is ur con

[tall delta]

16

[pliant sapphire]

and the wizards CON?

they have Tough feat?

[tall delta]

19+the tough feat but only 13ac

[next solar]

holy stat spread

[tall delta]

The wizards intelligence is a 20 con 19 everything else is below 14

I’m just realizing they have the second highest hp in the party ahead of the cleric and only beaten by the fighter

[twilit sail]

Holy rolled stats

This is generally not considered normal

[tall delta]

We are also level 14 so there’s a bit of stat increases in there

[twilit sail]

Ah

[tall delta]

And the wizard also somehow survived the deck of many things

[next solar]

i mean technically thats possible with point buy at level 14

[twilit sail]

Yeah

[next solar]

how much cards did they pull

[tall delta]

All of them

[next solar]

huh

[tall delta]

Yea

We went extraplanar for a bit to solve that problem

[mystic crystal]

As a DM that loves the deck of many things.

It is the worst magic item to give out lol

[tall delta]

Our wizard is a gambling adict he lost the gold rewards from the deck a bit later in a gambling incident

Out of game our dm is never giving another one

In game our characters have enough reason to destroy more deck of many things on sight

[twilit sail]

Can you do that safely?

[tall delta]

Theoretically

[hot gate]

The deck isn't an artifact, so like any non-artifact you can destroy it.

[rich peak]

I play a sorcerer with a deck of illusions it’s super fun for getting out of situations where I can just subtly throw a card past someones head and hit them with the superintendent chalmers “good lord what is happening in there”

[lilac plover]

hey does anyone have good dice rolling bots for discord

[humble cairn]

My Bard had one and used it to establish his dueling academy in Waterdeep. Put a card down under a flagstone and had permanent illusory sparring partners for his students.

[rich peak]

Oh sweet

[tall delta]

Our main plan is to throw them into another plane

Can’t destroy them but we can lose them, aslong as we keep them out of the hands of the gambling adict wizard

[twilit shell]

all hail our lord and savior avrae

Blessed is her hand, loaded are her dice

[blissful ibex]

sadly no roll20 integration though q_q
just ddb

[blissful sandal]

sup guys, i'm looking for a place to play, is this server also for that or just for disscusion?

[next solar]

you can find a game in #find-a-game

[shy stirrup]

Discussion, but there LFG/LFM listings #find-a-game

[blissful sandal]

thank you, guys

[still plover]

Aside from here, you could also try LFG on Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[blissful sandal]

oh, i've been playing D&D for 8 years now, i just have no tables rn and i wanna scratch that itch lmao

but thx for the advice anyway

[blissful ibex]

also consider AL, easy to get fairly quick games that way

?al

oop, is the bot broken?

[blissful sandal]

what´s? AL exactly?

[shy stirrup]

Adventurer's League

[blissful ibex]

Adventurers League, it similar to an offical, global Westmarch
Basicaly dnd with a standardized set of house rules and minor restrictions on sources

[blissful sandal]

roger, thank you!

[still plover]

(Started with your search for a game)

[blissful ibex]

#adventurers-league is the channel for discussing it and you can find more inforamtion on the format as well as discord servers that play it on https://www.adventurersleague.info which is a community resource site maintained by @digitalmatt

[paper portal]

morning meabhy

[twilit shell]

The AL near me is on the other side of the city I live in and is across two separate rivers. Always wanted to check it out but 2.5hrs travel is a lot lol

[blissful ibex]

Ye, a lot of LGSs around here run it as a more structured introduction to DND for new learners as well

[warm meadow]

Morning works for me, too

[paper portal]

its 2am here

[warm meadow]

L,ol same here, it's pretty late, what are you doing up?

[lavish flame]

Yall doing anything fun in your D&D this week?

[next solar]

we are about to have our campaign finale

finally after 2 years

[uncut zenith]

I’ve got a session tonight 🙌🏼

And we had to skip our last session two weeks ago so I’m extra excited

[turbid vessel]

we just levelled up to level 4 and we're all excited to use our new feats

[woven flint]

Fought Kas, made him run like a Coward

Tonight, My Bugbear Ranger kills more Devils

[twilit shell]

Dungeon devoted to the sacrifical altar of a dead demigod

[blissful ibex]

I play multiclasses and my primary character doesn't get her first feat until level 7 q_q
It's a self inflicted issue, but still XD

[turbid vessel]

i'm usually a big fan of ASI but i couldn't turn down charger for this character, cause i can

• Weapon Mastery Push: 10 feet
• Maneuver Push: 15 feet (str save)
• Charger Push: 10 feet

35 feet total push

[reef tundra]

I’m thinking of trying out AL soon

I miss being a player and I haven’t had the chance to play in the forgotten realms in years

[blissful ibex]

It's a very good, low commitment way to get games in

I highly recomend it

[empty thicket]

that is.... welp... pushing someone an entire movement action is painful

[blissful ibex]

EBARB in tier 3+ be like

[turbid vessel]

new disengage action just dropped

[empty thicket]

yeah but that need a lot of investment
I might put some stuff on it ngl

[blissful ibex]

My fathomless warlock Knocking enemies back 30 feet before slowing them by 10 off of Tentacle of the Deeps c:

[blissful ibex]

2 Levels in warlock isn't terribly much... well if you count the Ability Scores required it is, but I rather like Moderate levels of Warlock in a multiclass so

[empty thicket]

yeah yeah, i will might do it

because last sess i didnt used blade at all

welp, even after landing like 3 EB critics (with the lowest rolls possibles) we still lose the fight so

[blissful ibex]

Blade is really nice but it takes far more investment than EBARB to let it do what just basic EB does on its own

Only really need Agonizing Blast and Repelling blast; Eldritch Spear and Grasp of Hadar are there as well if you want extra goodies c:

[empty thicket]

eldritch spear feel overkill, EB is already 120ft of distance

[blissful ibex]

It does, but if you have noting better to take for a bit or are in a campaign that for some reason has like 500ft battlemaps, it's lkind of nice that it exists

[empty thicket]

there is other many options, if not utility is always welcome

[reef tundra]

Oh good! I’ll start reading up on it now

[empty thicket]

Levitate, mage armor, false life, etc. etc. etc.

and i might get false life, last ses i got obliterated

[blissful ibex]

I'm preferential to Pact of the tome + Aspect of the Moon (and potentially Book of Ancient Secrets when allowed)

[lavish flame]

eldritch spear + Spell Sniper ftw

[blissful ibex]

780ft range go brrrrr XD

Will you ever use it? Likely not
Is it funny as hell to have? Definitely

[twilit sail]

I heard eldritch spear is mid

[blissful ibex]

It very much is; but it's also funny

You will almost never use it, so it's generally a poor choice, but if you do grab it, the one time it's usefull will have you feeling very smug XD

[empty thicket]

who i need to kill!? im not a Snilock

But yeah, might drop the close range and embrace the long range

[twilit sail]

Idk maybe your dm will want you to shoot jfk at some point

[empty thicket]

.... im in the underdark so i doubt i will have such open spaces for now

[barren badger]

Can you even see that far in the underdark

780 feet is like, 130 adult alligators. its so far

[blissful ibex]

There's glowey stuff sometimes
Or you could have a bat familiar range out for you to scout a bit and act as a spotter c:

[empty thicket]

No. The fact that having such range is pointless is like Studying your rival movements but realizing you arent atheltic enough to dodge them anyway

[empty thicket]

So i get my pseudodragon to fly above an area and mark me the enemies and i Snipe them with the EB....

What kind of war tactic is this?

[fair vault]

Old school dm coming back to tell old school type forgotten realms adventuers. i have been away formdnd for over 10 years. I Am Looking ( NEED ) someone to help me with rules and mechanics. I have purchased Foundry and all the needed materials. Someone please DM is you are interested in helping me out, I have decided to ake this a part time career. Ty in advance

[minor cargo]

Welcome back and good luck!

I know you asked for DMs, but feel free to ask some questions in these open channels. There’s also a #dm-discussion channel, too, if this channel starts getting busy.

[shy stirrup]

Welcome back. You'll find it's not as hard as you might think to get back into the swing of things. Some things have changed, many things have not. Useful channels for you might be:
#dnd-newcomers
#dm-discussion
#dnd-elder-editions

[feral fulcrum]

Eh, the Underdark has lots of spacious places, some made by the likes of Gnomes, some natural, plenty more carved out by collosal doom worms.

It's got places big enough for the likes of Themberchonk

[empty thicket]

Still, too much range for me

few people make maps of 1000fts x 1000fts

[glossy otter]

Dang, reading the list of new monsters in Ravenloft from the summary. I'm suprised we're getting more than just Cthulhu with Shoggoth and Mi-Gos

[barren badger]

Is it a little strange that the DMG and DNDBeyond kind of like, spoils specific details about curse of strahd?

[lavish flame]

the 2024 Player's Handbook spoils a major twist in CoS. I've never liked it

[glossy otter]

Wait, really?

[lavish flame]

yeah, in the "learning how to play" sections, they describe the scene in which PCs exploring Castle Ravenloft learn about Ireena Kolyana's lore

[glossy otter]

Wow, way ta go WOTC XD jkjk

Though all jokes asides, that is a bit of a bummer

[rough basalt]

Yeah I don't get how they couldn't just make up a scenario rather than use one from a pre-written module. Especially one that a lot of people wanna play or currently playing.

[crimson gulch]

im a full time professional dm and could certianly answer some questions

[blissful ibex]

Standard sniper stuffs, you're using a spotter, and because the Famaliar gives you vision, you can target them c:

And the Share senses portion of Find Familiar doesn't have a range, just the casting through them and the telepathy. So you can issue standing orders and send them off as scouts

Alternitively Flock of Familiars exists as well

[empty thicket]

no wait, its 100ft distance

wait, let me check if the upgrade of pact of chain let change it

Gaze of two minds maybe?

[blissful ibex]

Telepathic Connection. While your familiar is within 100 feet of you, you can communicate with it telepathically. Additionally, as a Bonus Action, you can see through the familiar's eyes and hear what it hears until the start of your next turn, gaining the benefits of any special senses it has.

Finally, when you cast a spell with a range of touch, your familiar can deliver the touch. Your familiar must be within 100 feet of you, and it must take a Reaction to deliver the touch when you cast the spell.

It's a different sentence

The 100ft range is just on communication and on touch spells cast through them

[still root]

So... ...what's everybody going to do when Hasbro finally murders the granddaddy of TTRPGs?

[empty thicket]

wording make my head hurt

[blissful ibex]

It do be how things work though XD

[empty thicket]

The battle pass in DnD is... wild

[blissful ibex]

It's 100000% fine, because DMs don't have to allow it

[empty thicket]

yep, in any way. Warlock sniper is something

[empty thicket]

idk, i feel its... i understand why such thing would exist

it just feel out of place, feel like those phone games that oyu must enter daily for a reward

[blissful ibex]

I'd prefer if it was more an early access sort of thing and after like 18 months of them they get put into a Splat Book or something

Stuff like that is a little more reasonable, especially because it's a fringe benefit for having the subscription, likely for other reasons

[flint ledge]

Isn't there a flipping battlepass with the dnd beyond subscription?

[barren badger]

I think it's interesting that AL bans the battle pass content

[sacred bone]

oh it does? lmao

[blissful ibex]

Yep, Because it's not in an approves ource book
Did the Admins weigh in on it yet outside of that?

can't remmber

[empty thicket]

Yep, like
Again, weird thing to add to such hobby.
More understanding that few people will be entering DnD beyond more than 2 times per week

[warm meadow]

There's no battle pass in the D&D Beyond subscription

[timid anvil]

#adventurers-league would be a better place to discuss it :)

[empty thicket]

but in any way, i dont mind it

and about that warlock sniper

[blissful ibex]

Not me over here currently on 5 recurring weekly tables O_o
"...is an outlier and should not have been counted."

[empty thicket]

"Few people"

and i wish too, im seeing to have sessions 3 times per week

[flint ledge]

The dnd beyond subscription does give you content exclusive to it though....

[hot marlin]

Fun fact: In statistics "outliers" are counted. You do not discard the outliers, they are still part of the sample

[empty thicket]

yeah, always

[flint ledge]

Which I mean I guess isn't exactly a battle pass but close enough

[empty thicket]

even if they are the "minority" tehy are part of the %

[normal junco]

okay, so i need to figure out what this battle pass is. all that comes to mind is some kind of MMO thing and that can't be right. to the interwebs!

[blissful ibex]

More useful at a homebrew table than one strictly running hardcovers but it's only 1~2 additional Invocations depending on if you were intending to take either Pact of the Tome, Pact of the Chain, or Gaze of Two Minds or not

Or have Ritual Caster or MI:Wizard
Or multiclass into a class with Find Familiar

[warm meadow]

Interesting, do you think it should be allowed, or is it better this way

[empty thicket]

like 3 of 10 rogues arent edgy

[barren badger]

I don't play AL, so I dont think I could comment either way. I just think it is interesting

[empty thicket]

those 3 are part of the stat

[blissful ibex]

It's better, yes
but again, #adventurers-league is the place to discuss that

[empty thicket]

na, i dont multiclass yet

i want to try all the classes first and then see some multiclassing

[blissful ibex]

Fair, you want to have a good handle on things before messing with it too much
also requires actually planning out your build in advanced

[empty thicket]

for now i tried some fighter and warlock a little bit
Next trying is going to be rogue or artificer

[warm meadow]

Yeah, I get that. What part did you find most interesting

[fresh laurel]

i had the shittiest day ever today

[empty thicket]

Rogue because i want fr try Assasssin and Artificer because i want to feel full supportish

[hot marlin]

Well no, not really always. If you do a data research about the income of the home owners of a neighbourhood and a billionaire buys a house, you write down in your study that you omitted them because they just throw the math completely off

But you do note that he was there

[normal junco]

ah. so battle pass is more or less what the weekly encounters and free adventures and stuff were on the forums long ago. except this is now a subscription service you have to pay for. and integrated (i think?) with the vtt.

[fresh laurel]

@empty thicket thanks for emotional support

[empty thicket]

its the least and all i can do, life is a bunch of bad and good days

but you cant have good rolls without the bad ones

[fresh laurel]

good quote

i almost shat my pants becuase of a minor earthquake

[warm meadow]

Okay, I understand. I apologize

[fresh laurel]

i was like in the point perfect center of it

so it was quite scary

[timid anvil]

It is not really a battle pass. It is part of the Subscription Service D&D Beyond always had and is just something extra you get alongside your subscription

[blissful ibex]

It's all good; the mods just have a lot to do and it was already mentioned so we don't want to give them more work than necessary q_q

[barren badger]

There are character options and feats and stuff

[blissful ibex]

ye, more of a fringe benefit ontop of the existing service

[barren badger]

But they are not printed in sourcebooks

[blissful ibex]

yet.

[barren badger]

The feats/backgrounds are like, relatively powerful too?

[empty thicket]

welp, there oyu had an adrenaline rush for the week, hope the rest of the week the tectonic plates dont want to dance again

[barren badger]

Have they announced plans to print them into sourcebooks?

[normal junco]

i dont see why they would. if the whole idea is stuff exclusive to paid subscription, by printing them they lose control.

[timid anvil]

Also if people want to discuss the drops more in depth and leave feedback for them we got #ddb-drops :)

[barren badger]

Thank you! That wasnt on my channel list, so I didn't even know that channel existed!

[normal junco]

woo. new channel

[fresh laurel]

thanks! i gotta chill in the grass fields for a week now

[empty thicket]

the best you can do is that and be ready for one

i never experienced an earthquake, so idk how it is

[fresh laurel]

oh really? well that may be inappropriate to say but you definetly need to have one

its kinda fun and unique feeling after it ends

[barren badger]

I do appreciate little reminders like this, because the number of channels can be a bit overwhelming and i dont think everyone knows that every channel/category exists

[empty thicket]

Pffff, will see someday i visit some country that have such thing

[timid anvil]

That's what our #channel-guide and id:customize is for :)

[empty thicket]

until then, im going to just cast Eldritch blasts and other stuff

[fresh laurel]

i hope so? i feel weird saying that lol

3 years ago there was a giant one in my area

7.6 magnitude earthquake twice in the same day

i literally shat my pants

i got lucky and i don't have any dead relatives tho

[empty thicket]

seeing that number remind me

[fresh laurel]

it was a national crisis literally

[empty thicket]

a friend rolled stats the other day,
3 times 76 in total

[fresh laurel]

yeah?

[icy bone]

When you think about creating a new character that worship your past character

[empty thicket]

The odds of such thing happening were low

[empty thicket]

what about it?

[fresh laurel]

wait i didn't get it
how do they roll 76 with a d20

[icy bone]

That was it
Its been like 5 seconds

[empty thicket]

Roll stats

[empty thicket]

eh?

[fresh laurel]

idk i never played DnD yet :p

[blissful ibex]

It's the total of their 6 ability scores added up
so like 8,12,16,10,18,12 would be 76

[fresh laurel]

DAMN MAN
whats that emoji for

i just couldn't find a group i could fit in

[barren badger]

||Which is very out of date||

#⁠unknown - Find players ready to join a game.

[fresh laurel]

oh thank you very much!

[empty thicket]

its one of the ways of calculating your stats
You can roll them aka, let the luck decide
standard that give you X numbers and you place it in the stats you want
Or they give you X number of points and you spread above all the stast you want

[fresh laurel]

oh okay chat got told me about that

[empty thicket]

Example of the last one, you can have all stats "equal" or chose 1 or 2 to be higher

[blissful ibex]

Remember if you're rolling stats; you do not roll until the DM tells you to, and in the way the DM tells you to, and in a way the DM can verify the roll

[timid anvil]

Yeah we are working on a replacement XD

[empty thicket]

yeah yeah, we do it in the chat with a bot that is !randchar or smt like that

[fresh laurel]

nahh i got nat 20 bro trust me

[blissful ibex]

AI cannot differentiate between older editions, 5e (2014), 5.5e (2024), homebrew, other similar systems, and random people on the internet posting basically whatever they want on the topic that the bot happened to scrape up, and as such AI should not be relied on for rules questions

Ask your questions in the appropriate channel here to get more accurate information and to avoid being lied to while burning clean water and electricity on halucinations c:

[blissful ibex]

I generally just Standard Array/Point Buy

not a huge fan of rolling

[fresh laurel]

i put my VPN in africa to use their water instead

[empty thicket]

same, point buy is good for me

Standard array feel... okey, help to new players but i like to decide all i can my character

[fresh laurel]

also i kinda had a bad first view about this server and this is my second chance giving it a chance

[blissful ibex]

I say that because half the time my Point Buy allocations end up being Standard Array anyway
it tends to happen with multiclass cahracters

[fresh laurel]

mods are very understaffed i think

[blissful ibex]

Then ask them of people elsewhere; AI is notoriously bad at getting the rules right because half of them are not freely available and it can literally pull info from anywhere
A random post from a reddit user from 11 years ago that was scraped up and fed to an LLM to regurgitate later with randomized changes is not a deffinitive rules source

[empty thicket]

meh, its funny iwth rolling stats because jaja, we all got low stats and we are going to play lambs going to the DArkest Dungeon.

[rough basalt]

Rolled stats have their place for sure.

Each stat gen method does.

Standard Array is good for writing pregens for new players, westmarches, and other organized play type of deals I think.

[blissful ibex]

We kinda laready do that anyway XD; standard Array is only 72

[fresh laurel]

i just rolled 6d20 to see what i would get
i got 87 in total
16 15 17 18 20 1

great comedy material

[barren badger]

except for kyle who rolled before session today and got 3 18s

[blissful ibex]

Pointbuy technically can get you 78 but then you have 13 in every stat and that is not good

[rough basalt]

Point Buy is pretty good for more advanced players who wanna plan stuff ahead I believe.

Where as rolled stats I believe are best in games where difficulty is high. Or everyone's a gambler.

[empty thicket]

yeah but like, all the players roll 3 times
We can chose either the good roll or the bad roll. In any way is funny

[blissful ibex]

I run pointbuy even in difficult games c:

[empty thicket]

na, we all roll inside of the server we have

[fresh laurel]

yeah they usually do that very commonly, however may i come in please?

[rough basalt]

Same. I always run PB.

[halcyon forum]

standard array is just one possible configuration of Point Buy basically

[empty thicket]

so everybody see them and mostly we laugh about the numbers we get

[blissful ibex]

I run standard array even in games where rolling is an option and encouraged XD

[empty thicket]

a friend got 3 times 76 in total

funniest thing of the day

[fresh laurel]

you gotta gamble more often :p

[rough basalt]

The one game I use rolled stats for is Shadowdark. Cause 3d6 in order is name of the game.

[blissful ibex]

no. c:

[empty thicket]

The unfunniest was i got like 3 critics with Eldritch blast and rolled less of 7 damage in all of them

[barren badger]

Characters are expected to die in Shadowdark

[rough basalt]

Yep. I love it.

[blissful ibex]

and you do it a handful of times
then you run the Gauntlet c:

[rough basalt]

It's so easy to GM.

[cobalt escarp]

The RNG gods must not have been happy that day

[rough basalt]

I'm gonna try an open table format with a megadungeon for it sometime soon.

Trying different ways to GM to see which ones fit me the best.

[cobalt escarp]

im unfamiliar, what that mean?

[barren badger]

How do you or your DMs handle crits at your tables? RAW or a non-standard rule?

[timber cove]

i have a couple of 3.5 games where we have a crit table, in my game i just use raw

[timber cove]

megadungeons are huge dungeons that last multiple sessions

[blissful ibex]

RAW; all 5 tables I'm in are incredibly close to RAW
and only 3 are AL tables c:

[cobalt escarp]

i know that but what does open table mean

[halcyon forum]

RAW, while sometimes the damage rolls are disappointing, I think maxxing one die makes it harder to balance

[rough basalt]

Open tables are "here's a group of players, here's where I'm running a game, whoever shows up, shows up, and we run."

[cobalt escarp]

i see i see

thank you

[blissful ibex]

More like a Westmarch than a standard fixed party, ye

[rough basalt]

Pretty much yeah.

[fresh laurel]

what happens if someone gets really ducking high roll in stat roll

[rough basalt]

They get a very high roll

[fresh laurel]

like 6 20s

[shy stirrup]

How

Why

[fresh laurel]

but thats not fair for the rest of the party

[barren badger]

At my table, I do normal crit rules but you will always do the maximum damage that your attack could normally do.

For example, if your damage roll is normally 1d8, a crit is normally 2d8. If your crit roll is less than 8, you just do 8

[rough basalt]

Oh in that cursed generation method? Well I guess they got John Dungeon

[barren badger]

You are not rolling your stats correctly.

[cobalt escarp]

well the typical method is 4d6 and drop the lowest and the max on that is 18

[fresh laurel]

😭

[blissful ibex]

It maxes at 18 generally
the most common is rolling method is 4d6 drop the lowest

[fresh laurel]

oh that makes sense

[indigo valley]

So what kind of campaigns do you usually run?

[blissful ibex]

and then sensible tables have you reroll if under 72, or might have you reroll your lowest stat

[barren badger]

I think the chance of that happening is 1 in 64 million

[fresh laurel]

isn't 72 good enough?

12 in average

[blissful ibex]

72 is standard array; which is like the basic, standard stat distribution method
if you roll under it , you reroll

[crimson gulch]

its about half custom campaings half published books, currently
Monday:the Calamity of exandria, current level 6
Tuesdays The Mooshae Islands, current level 12
Wednesdays Curse of strad, current level 6
Thursdays the Dunes of Calimport current level 11
Fridays the Dungeon of the Mad Mage, current level 20
Saturdays the Tomb of annhiliation, current level 3
Sundays Tyrrany of Dragons Current level 11

[fresh laurel]

yeah it is
im just that lucky though and definetly there is nothing wrong with my custom tech looking dice that i don't allow anyone else use