dnd-discussion

[pliant sapphire]

Aetherborn

Age. Aetherborn come into being as adults and live no more than a few years.

[undone rain]

Playable races

[flint ledge]

I wonder how many thri kreen turn to lichdom to avoid their short lives, if any

[last flume]

Aetherborn are a playable race

[atomic kayak]

Depends on your setting @ ages

[undone rain]

Ive never even heard of em but damn

[flint ledge]

Which book are aetherborn from?

[atomic kayak]

Sounds like homebrew

[last flume]

True, I only found them buried in the exotic race section

[last flume]

Plane Shift - Kaladesh

[atomic kayak]

Definitely homebrew for 5e then

Ah yea, not official

The plane shift docs aren't official content

[last flume]

I think it's 3rd Party from Magic the Gathering?

[undone rain]

Speaking of 3rf party. Are blood hunters fullcasters or half

Are they even casters

[twilit shell]

I am pretty sure they are just martials?

[last flume]

There is one subclass that gives you 3rd casting I believe?

[flint ledge]

I don't think they are casters

[atomic kayak]

Yea exactly not official

[undone rain]

Oh so like an eldritch knight/arcane trickster

[twilit shell]

Yeah the profane soul is an eldritch knight equivalent

[last flume]

At level 20 the Profane Soul subclass gives you 2 4th level spellslots

[undone rain]

Luv me gish

[last flume]

They get a otherworldy patron like warlocks (with the same patrons)

[twilit shell]

I love the concept of gish, it just feels difficult to commit to making one that isn't a hexblade or bladesinger

[undone rain]

True true

Bladesingers can have some ridicolous ac

[twilit shell]

Paladin captures the fantasy almost, not quite the right vibe but mechanically you can work in a lot of magic with your swordplay

[atomic kayak]

Its not actually that difficult, people just get caught up on 2 things:

• Trying to still be as completely functional as a regular full caster
• trying to be able to attack with your casting stat

[humble cairn]

The two classes that are gishes by default are Paladin and Ranger, you could try those?

[undone rain]

I dont really think they count

[atomic kayak]

Ive played (multiple) gish Sorcs, a druid, 2 bards and then rangers and paladins

[humble cairn]

They certainly do.

[hollow stone]

is there a gish sorc subclass?

[twilit shell]

They don't quite have the right vibe of blending swordplay and magic in the way that I mentally envision a gish

[atomic kayak]

If EK, AT, and BS count, then they definitely count

[last flume]

No

[twilit shell]

Valor bard and swords bard do pretty well with it

[pliant sapphire]

Valor bard is an easy gish

[atomic kayak]

Not one that makes it """easy"""

[last flume]

I think there was Stone Sorcery, but that was 2014 UA

[humble cairn]

But they do do it, perhaps you just have a specific type of gish you want.

[atomic kayak]

Ive played both draconic sorc and storm sorc gishes

[twilit shell]

Thats uh, exactly what I said

[atomic kayak]

It wasn't hard, it was just a matter of not pretending to also still play like a "normal" sorcerer

[empty thicket]

nope

[humble cairn]

Which you could go into more detail describing if you wanted help with it?

[last flume]

Gish are Classes that blend spellcasting with martial ability, so Valor Bard, Ranger, Paladin, Arcane Trickster, Bladesingers are all gishes

[atomic kayak]

A lot of people who talk about playing gishes (especially on full caster classes) want to have the full extent of capabilities in both directions. Which isn't what a gish is

[undone rain]

Bards really can be anything, support, frontliner or simply an arcane caster

Luv bards

[hollow stone]

i've done a lot of gish warlocks, since it's just taking your first level in Fighter, your next in Warlock, and then choosing Pact Of The Blade

[humble cairn]

Valor Bard '24 is a very nice gish subclass, combining Shillelagh + True Strike + Conjure Minor Elementals was fun.

[twilit shell]

I was more just whinging than anything, I have made it work well enough. Ranger I have had some fun on a melee gish build I just had to finangle some good magic items and basically focused on speedmaxing lol

[atomic kayak]

Almost all of these, barring the Druid, Paladins and one ranger (who were all Str based), were dex based.

It was quite easy to do, and perfectly effective

[twilit shell]

new druid actually does have high gish capability in 2024 with the martial archetype

[empty thicket]

and i like that sorc dont have a "gish" way
Because i think its the class more centered around spells and i do something funny on it, Compare it with another
IN this example, barbarian.
Barbarian have a giga hard time doing a "gish" multiclassing like sorc, they cant access well to the other side of the coin (caster // martial)

[twilit shell]

If only we had bloodrager 😔

[atomic kayak]

Sorc, like most of the full caster gishes, just focuses on a bladetrip

[humble cairn]

Ehhh ... without more support than simpyl armor and weapon proficiency I have a hard time seeing them actually approaching something with enough martial capability to count. At least if we're talking monoclass.

[atomic kayak]

Fire draconic sorc loves GFB

[humble cairn]

I'm playing basically a summoner Beast Master currently, Wisdom maxxed using Shillelagh and Magic Stone.

[undone rain]

Mmmm, booming blade

[twilit shell]

the action economist

[humble cairn]

Yes, I use my entire action economy every turn, and to great effect.

[atomic kayak]

My booming blade + thunder stepping storm sorc was fun as a gish

[humble cairn]

When my Bonus Action turns into an entire other Action+Bonus it feels like I'm playing a character and a half.

[twilit shell]

booming blade with quicken spell dissonant whispers with warcaster for an additional AOO booming blade

[hollow stone]

if i don't use my Action and Bonus Action i feel like i wasted something

[empty thicket]

GFB? what is that?

[twilit shell]

green flame blade

[empty thicket]

okey okey

[undone rain]

Not my fav cantrip but its worth pickin up

[atomic kayak]

Its (one of) the full caster gish cantrips

[undone rain]

And 5.5e true strike

So glad they changed it

[twilit shell]

I do love gfb and its a fun time, especially if you can get a flametongue. Bonus points if a party member has elemental bane

[atomic kayak]

Unfortunately a bad mindset that will lead you down unproductive rabbitholes often

[last flume]

Vengeful Blade is 3rd Party but it's a better Booming Blade, probably

[atomic kayak]

Sometimes (often) just using an action is more than enough

[sour cave]

Man I wish rangers had heavy armor proficiency, wanna run around with a greataxe and dex doesn’t work with that

[atomic kayak]

The times I wasn't using the BB TS combo (which was rare, since i was converting points and slots specifically for TS often) was where I was getting the use out of the quick flight from storm sorc

[empty thicket]

mmmm.... there is no subclass that give such thing?

[atomic kayak]

Storm sorc was Mage Armor with that combo, draconic sorc was dex based GFB user, druid was a barkskin spores

[undone rain]

Aside from bg3 having ranger knight, no

[empty thicket]

oh, okey okey

but like... i feel it go against with what the class Want you to do.
Heavy armor is reserved for a pair of creatures

Aka, fighter and paladin

[twilit shell]

You can always just take the feat for heavy armor proficiency but its a feat tax

[empty thicket]

yep, but in "raw" of the class or subclass

[twilit shell]

I think ranger as an archetype would have a hard time justifying heavy armor proficiency, not really the sort of armor you'd want to be lugging around and intricately maintaining in the wilds

[empty thicket]

not seasoned with some feat seasoning

tho, ranger hve access at lvl 2 to Barkskin

[atomic kayak]

Cleric

[glad arch]

Which classes do get heavy? Paladin, fighter, clerics have the option

[empty thicket]

oh yeah, forgot about htem

[glad arch]

Heavy armor clerics are fine tbh

[last flume]

Clerics used to bash people with their maces

[empty thicket]

its why im thinking more in a subclass, a subclass that make you stand in front, maybe upgrade concentration saves too

[glad arch]

Starting equipment still suggests you do

[last flume]

That was the fantasy of the older edition clerics I believe

[empty thicket]

but not being soo alike that bladesinger

[twilit shell]

Be the change you want to see in the world, time to get cookin ;P

[twilit shell]

Barkskin is such a weird spell because it just sets an AC floor, you can't stack on it. For example the SAC clarifies that if you have 16 ac and cast barkskin then get behind half cover, your AC will still only be 18 because 16+2=18 and barkskin just sets it to 17 if your ac is lower

[empty thicket]

A "defender" ranger i guess it could be....

[glad arch]

Ranger in heavy armor gives me similar vibes to heavy armor rogue

[twilit shell]

I recognize the council has made a decision on barkskin, but given that its a stupid decision...

[empty thicket]

yeah, same thing

we dont see a rogue with heavy armor so we dont see a ranger with such thing too
we dont see a barbarian throwing spells so we cant see a sorc getting too martial
we dont see a monk using Great weapons like we dont see a fighter using unnarmed fighting style

[steel gale]

Hello. Uhm. So. Basically I am a newbie feller, I am currently making a campaign and stuff. It's definitely not normal DnD and would have a few mechanics on character creation and stuff. It's Backrooms based. Humans no clip to the backrooms as civillians or agents sent by the government. It will still be a month or so till I actually might even finish creating the campaign.

And, uh, anybody have any tips for "First time DMs"?

I uh have limited vocal range and I am not very good at voice acting. So the majority of my characters would sound similar or the same and me trying to voice act would probably sound heavily unnatural.

Anybody have any tips and stuff?

[empty thicket]

There is "Limits"

[hollow stone]

taking a first level in Fighter works wonders for doing things the game doesn't want you to

[empty thicket]

yeah but multiclassing is kinda a trap card

like getting feats

[twilit shell]

Again, man I wish 5e had bloodrager barb

[flint ledge]

I mean it's sort of a safety net in case you have a character and realize the AC is kinda bad while also not letting you stack up AC from more sources

[empty thicket]

what it do? throw spells using blood or smt?

[hollow stone]

if you can get Mithral copies of Heavy Armors then you get to have big fun

[twilit shell]

It was a barbarian subclass that allowed you to choose basically sorcery lineages and cast whilst raging. But only while raging since that is when their blodline boiled up to activation

[empty thicket]

17 AC for a class that in theory should be in safe spots its totally okey
/Almost/ like mage armor

[glad arch]

Just use mage armor at that point

[twilit shell]

And it had more focus on mutations than the archetypal sorcery bloodline traits. it was a really neat vibe

[empty thicket]

mmm.... i thought it would be something like being able to use blood magic
React and sacrifice X hp for higher your AC like a shield
Coat a range attack in your blood and upgrade it
etc. etc.
And one of the features be that you get an extra heal dice in short rests

considerating that barbarian most of the time is the HP sponge, being able to sacrifice it like a resource and get upgrades would be something nice

[twilit shell]

Yeah there are features that allow you to do that as well depending on the archetype you choose

there are genuinely like 20 archetypes for bloodrager 💀

But thats enough about PF anyways before I get smited

[empty thicket]

Hell na, leave me with the "blood barbarian magic" i was saying and that it is.

i bet someone made such thing in homebrew. I know im not genius and time had pass so someone would had such idea

[twilit shell]

My favorite one was being able to transmit touch spells via physical contact without having to roll to hit as long as you grapple. And being a barbarian, great odds of grapple LOL. (Touch AC was generally super low anyways so objectively probably worse than just casting a touch spell against most enemies)

[empty thicket]

yeah, now im curious if such thing exist

someday i might search it

but to the principal point, maybe not trying to make a "heavy armor ranger" would be right

some classes must hold to an idea

[twilit shell]

Yeah I feel the same way about a heavy armor ranger as I would about a heavy armor monk. Its just a fundamental departure from the vibe. Not necessarily an anathema but I think a feat tax is justified since that explains why this specific ranger has heavy armor mastery even though a typical ranger wouldn't

[atomic kayak]

I think ranger in particular deserves it cause rangers lean heavily on a bounty hunter vibe often, which puts them against humanoids often (in urban environments too) and heavy armor works

[empty thicket]

i would say more in a "hunter" vibe than bounty hunter only

A ranger must explore, find, sneak and adapt

[atomic kayak]

Its both

[buoyant oar]

If you are a hunter of humanoids you are more than likely a bounty hunter

[twilit shell]

A bounty hunter in heavy armor is going to have a harder time moving quietly with a low profile, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. Fear makes people desperate, and desperate people make bad moves

[atomic kayak]

Not all rangers are stealthy

[woven flint]

My Bugbear Gloomstalker fancies himself a Hitman, because it sounds more "sophisticated" 🧐

[empty thicket]

For bounty hunter with heavy armor i feel a Fighter or Paladin would fit more
But again, a bounty hunter dont need to be heavy at all. Need to find the target and take it down or capture it

Can sneak up when the target is exposed and capture it

[buoyant oar]

Take Din djarin from the Mandolorian classic ranger

[atomic kayak]

Rangers are still trackers even in heavy armor

[buoyant oar]

And Mando wears full plate.

[last flume]

Half Plate

[atomic kayak]

Frankly most star wars bounty hunters, and many of them (especially the mandalorians) are in what would reasonably be described as heavy armor

[woven flint]

Alas, rangers can't wear heavy armor if they want to keep their Climbing and Swimming speeds 😔

[last flume]

He is not wearing a full cuirass, it's literally half plate

[atomic kayak]

His armor would be functionally full plate, especially considering his greaves, boots, and vambraces

[buoyant oar]

I would call his s1 armor half plate and his beskar armor full plate tbh

But it's a semantics argument at best since he isn't a 5e character

At the end of the day designing class archetypes around vibes is a bad idea and can imo only lead to stereotyping and reductionist thinking.

Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood assassin's guild has a good example of breathing moulds.

In a group of stealthy assassins you gotta guy who wears full heavy armor and wields a mual. But he is still an assassin of the Dark Brotherhood and damn effective at it.

[limber trail]

(The biggest piece of evidence I can point to that it’s not full plate is that the armour iirc is still designed to allow mobility and also that we see mandalorians with bulkier armour than he has)

[scenic nest]

hello

[buoyant oar]

(Full plate armor historically was very mobile)

[ornate rapids]

custom tailored to be such!
it was an expensive thing to make and maintain

[buoyant oar]

Bingo making steel armor that didn't move where it needed to would be dumber and less practical than boob plate

[twilit shell]

There are some great videos of people doing acrobatics in plate armor

[empty thicket]

(Splint armor is pretty mobile too and stylish)

[woven flint]

Boobplate

[buoyant oar]

We support women's rights and women's wrongs

[woven flint]

Based? 🤨

[buoyant oar]

If men can have the armor that historically existed that had....features.

[empty thicket]

impractical mostly, you want the armor to have some "space" so the direct impact dont harm you too much

[twilit shell]

King Henry! Poor guy had a reason to need some extra space lmao

[empty thicket]

is why some armors arent "sized" to the person perfectly

[buoyant oar]

And some armor would be more form fitting like brigadines which we would call studded leather (studded leather was actually never a thing and is really dumb)

Now it would not be cat suit form fitting. But more so than metal

[empty thicket]

yep, its 2 layers of leather and under it some of this padded armor

if not people would go with leather//padded and some chainmail irl

and some fancy rich boy with a plate armor

[buoyant oar]

True but he isn't the only one and especially in the late middle ages and going into the early 16th century plate armor had impractical adornments became fashionable

Now some brigadines did have leather exteriors with what appears to be studs in it which is where studded leather comes from.

But in reality those were rivets to a series of small metal plates inside the armor's lining. Like a reverse scale/splint mail

[empty thicket]

and those plates were easier to make//cheaper than chain mails

[buoyant oar]

You can't slide a sword up between splints if there is leather in the way!

[blissful ibex]

and lighter; and gave a better range of movement, and were hella stylish

[empty thicket]

Yep, now in day you can see some stylish stuff like a feathers plates mail trying to work like some sort of splint armor

[blissful ibex]

not the "best" armor by any means, but a very solid option that was reletively inexpensive verses more involved armors

[empty thicket]

there wasnt "best" in medieval ngl

[blissful ibex]

they all had tradeoffs, ye

[buoyant oar]

One of the arguments against boobplate that always bothered me is that you would hit the breast plate and all of the force would hit that middle seam.

But like it would not, If it "it somewhere" and would be fed into that groove yes. But 90% of the force of the blow has already been expended by the time the axe or sword get there. Direct hits? Yes that sucks but everything else. Not really. Still impractical.

[blissful ibex]

hence the quotes; more to throw shade on people who hype up certain pieces of medeival weaponry

and you could wear brigandine over a gambeson if you need that extra protection

[buoyant oar]

Gambeson my beloved it.

[empty thicket]

You either protect towards arrows and pickaxes and slashing (chainmail)
Or bludgeon (Plate armor)
Or against a bit of everything but not perfectly (padded//leather)

[atomic kayak]

Best armor is layers

[buoyant oar]

Plate armor's weakness is bludgeoning.

[rough basalt]

Can tell you straight up, bludgeon did not protect against plate armor, one might say the opposite lol

wait

[atomic kayak]

Warhammers were for plate

[rough basalt]

God '

[buoyant oar]

Plate armor protected against piercing and slashing.

[glad ferry]

Heya folks

[atomic kayak]

Thats why they had such small heads

[empty thicket]

oh, forgot then, plate was good against slashing true

[blissful ibex]

ye, it's designed to stop slashing/piercing attacks as best it can; but a couple pound mace to the head is going to rock your shit

[atomic kayak]

To puncture the plate

[glad ferry]

Barbarian unarmored halves all slashing, piercing, and bludgoning damage

[still plover]

Just say your fancy character art with the impractical armour is an artist's impression. One of your character's fans painted it that way, that's not how it actually looks.

[empty thicket]

Hell i would love a Halberd, Axe, spear and warpickaxe in one

[rough basalt]

Bludgeon weapons were the most broken weapons in medieval cqc warfare

[empty thicket]

the biggest problem were that they werent too defensive

[rough basalt]

Cause it doesnt take much physicality to bash someone over the head, but skill with a bludgeon made you an absolute menace.

[empty thicket]

A sword had the guard that could protect you from many things

[rough basalt]

Swords were also very expensive

[glad ferry]

That or just mess up the moving joint areas and make it so they cant move smoothly

[buoyant oar]

Most plate armor wearers would go inside to outside

Tunic and pants
Gamebson
Coif
Leather
Some mail most likely chain in elbows and knees.
Plate

[rough basalt]

Yep, the shock to your body from the heavy hits against the armor would make you numb and slower

[twilit shell]

Shout out to the rondel dagger, we love stabbing vulnerable joints and gaps

[empty thicket]

Yep, but a sword work in many ways. Someone having the hand in the Handle mean something different, it have Presence

[rough basalt]

Kingdom Come Deliverance is probably my favorite game cause of this.

Swords are awesome but you can just bust the game wide open with a mace and some plate armor

[glad ferry]

All weapons have their place

[empty thicket]

A hammer need swim, a sword can pierce, slash or if not grab it in the other way and use it for bludgeon

[rough basalt]

Unless you see a guy with a hammer or mace, then you run sometimes

[buoyant oar]

Many armor wearers learned Half-swording. Gripping the sword by the blade and beating the opponent to death with the cross guard.

[empty thicket]

Except scythe, that is an agriculture tool.

[glad ferry]

Swords also dull and need sharpening, bludgeniong just requires a surface

[rough basalt]

Polearms were the ultimate melee weapon tho

[buoyant oar]

But the best tool in medieval warfare is of course the spear

[rough basalt]

Historically

[glad ferry]

Spear and shield walls

[twilit shell]

Sharp pointy object on a stick, can't be beat

[empty thicket]

Spears are good, the extra range in most situations help
Bad part of spears is that if someone break the "range" they couldnt adapt to it like swords

[buoyant oar]

That is why most spearmen kept a sword sword

[empty thicket]

Greatswords in other side, were really scary weapons too

[buoyant oar]

The benefits of a polearm is an area of control over the battlefield

[rough basalt]

Yep, a short sword usually. Something they could draw in an instant after dropping or having their spear passed.

[twilit shell]

halberd #1 melee weapon in history though ong

[empty thicket]

Yeah but expensive to make

Those Axe, spear and pickaxe head werent cheap

[twilit shell]

Yeah 😔

Spear for mass efficacy of a fighting force, halberd for the carries

[empty thicket]

and a bit more heavier than other polearm weapons

[rough basalt]

I used to own a claymore and those things felt like carrying a heavy tree branch

[atomic kayak]

Broadly speaking yea every weapon was designed and used for a reason

[buoyant oar]

Best weapon was obvious the Sword Staff. /S

I take your spear and put a sword on the end of it.

[atomic kayak]

Chain knife

Like a sword staff, but bendy and long

[twilit shell]

The Urumi is probably one of the most interesting weapons but certainly not the best lol

[empty thicket]

If its the sword i think, yeah
Greatswords before tend to be more thin and easier to swim

[rough basalt]

Tho last time i held it was as a kid so it probably felt a lot heavier than it is

[buoyant oar]

Then there is the sword used in medieval india which was the blade was so thin it was like a ribbon.

It was also 8ft long

[atomic kayak]

Urumi is interesting yea but not quite what I was talking about

[empty thicket]

Because you need to swim it, those soldiers who used greatswords kinda countered spears breaking their sticks or moving them out of place
But they needed to dont wear too much armor for the mobility

[rough basalt]

Zombie games fear giving the player spears due to how broken they are, its funny

[empty thicket]

so they mostly went for padded//chainmail for counter Arrows

[rough basalt]

Notably the two games that do, they're powerhouses (Dead Rising, Project Zomboid)

[buoyant oar]

The Greek defeated the persians twice by the power of the long stick and being too proud to die.

[rough basalt]

And if the long stick was bypassed, they met the small blade then long stick was picked back up

[sinful dust]

it's funny how spellcasters are usually superior to martials but a party made of sole spellcasters would get wiped by an anti magic effect

[atomic kayak]

The main reason that spears have their reputation doesn't really have much to do with their actual """power""" (using that term lightly, but its the one people glaze incorrectly), but due to the training required & use cases

[rough basalt]

Or aoes

[rough basalt]

Ye you dont need much training with a spear to be effective

[sinful dust]

we're planning our next party for the next campaign and since everyone wants to play a fullcaster we stumbled upon this "survivability issue", do you guys agree? like wouldnt it be optimal to have at least one martial?

[rough basalt]

DnD reflects that well by having them be "Simple Weapons"

[empty thicket]

and how cheap they were too
A longsword material could be used to make 3 or 4 spears

[rough basalt]

Anyone can step forward thrusting a stick with enough force to hurt someone

[buoyant oar]

Battle of Marathon. Long Stick and Shield Wall

Battle of Salamis. Boats steered with long sticks and long throwy sticks

One of the first inventions of Homo Sapiens was the Atlatal. A long stick to throw long sticks longer and harder

[empty thicket]

yep, sadly such effect is high level or rare.
I would like that a Martial BBEG have some item that give him such anti mgic field around him to balance some combats

[rough basalt]

Humans evolution in history can be boiled down to three things

[empty thicket]

or be always ready with some tool to counter the casters for every encounter//fight, showing how smart he is

[rough basalt]

How hard our sticks hit, how far we can throw rocks, and how well we can boil water

[empty thicket]

"What do you mean you are using the SUN to boil water?!"

[rough basalt]

(Daily reminder that the cleanest most efficient renewable energy is just boiling water)

[buoyant oar]

Human war fare for the first 200,000 years I need my stick to go farther, be longer.

[hollow stone]

i love the sapien advancement of tools, we get so many toys out of it ❤️

[sinful dust]

i wonder what would be a decent way to build such a mechanic without making the party's spellcasters feel useless for that bossfight

[buoyant oar]

The throwing stick the Atlatal, and then the bow and arrow. All long stick supremacy

[sinful dust]

like maybe make it useless once the melee players break it? idk

[hollow stone]

this is also most of our energy lol, we can't actually directly make heat into electricity so instead we use it to boil water to spin a turbine that makes energy for us, we never truly left the steampunk age

[rough basalt]

Boiling water is just too effective

[empty thicket]

yep, magic stones that shattered lose the anti magic, casters, etc. etc

[buoyant oar]

I once use it as a anti magic nation had access to an mineral that created a mobile dead magic zone.

That mineral was given to their "Heavies" in the marching order. It generates a 20ft emination. So if the enemies bundle around the guy spell casters are in a bad way.

Monks loved these guys

[empty thicket]

the idea is forcing situations

same will happen to casters, they will have to carry the fights in some points

[atomic kayak]

(Almost important to remember that a very large percentage of new energy generation methods are just new ways of boiling water)

[rough basalt]

Yep, just some ways are better to boil water than others

[buoyant oar]

And again Steam wins by doing nothing.

[rough basalt]

It is funny how much of civilization was born off some of the first humans boiling water and finding out the water didnt hurt their stomachs after so they kept doing it, then decided to see what would happen if you put food in the boiling water

[rough basalt]

Valve cant keep getting away with it

[glad ferry]

To be fair a good pole arm person can keep someone at a distance

[atomic kayak]

Everyone give it up for water! 👏 👏 👏

[glad ferry]

Steam burns and can be used for pressure or steam engines

Same reason people though of making hydrogen engines though those had high risk of really bad explosions samw with nuclear

[lavish flame]

I fear a steampunk Elemental Plane of Water

[buoyant oar]

You mean Eberron? /Jk

[ornate rapids]

well there's the Quasi-Elemental Plane of Steam that's just chock full of it

[glad ferry]

Whats trh deal with rhe waeforged from eberon

[lavish flame]

they're so lit dawg

[ornate rapids]

you could even say they are constructs that were forged.....for war
but when said war is over they have to find new purpose in life

[glad ferry]

Ah. So much like the hero strong enough to defeat the villain a kingdom and its soldiers couldn't. They then become ostracized and feared by the kingdoms heiarch

[atomic kayak]

Not really

[glossy otter]

So, how's everyone today?

[glad ferry]

Wanting a good dnd session to have some fun

[lavish flame]

Eberron has this very recent 100 year long war, it also has a number of magically gifted dynastic houses called Dragonmarked Houses. They get unique powers, and one of the Human families has powers over Creation. As part of the House's efforts to make money, they experimented with new weapons for war.

They made Warforged Colossus, then Warforged Titans, then Warforged Soldiers. The only issue is, the Soldiers are like fully conscious sapient beings who have souls. Eventually the war ends, and these Warforged are finally given Personhood status. They still face various oppressions and are struggling to find their place in post-war society.

[glossy otter]

say, is anyone else noticing the mist walker status getting removed?

[glad ferry]

Mist walker?

[empty thicket]

People dont let me to only hire fire casters to start a boiling plant and get energy to the whole kingdom

[glossy otter]

the limited status during the ravenloft event

[empty thicket]

like they dont let me hire electric casters and do such thing too

[glad ferry]

Ah

Just get a bunch of spell casters and circle cast fireball with delay magic

[glossy otter]

Like I keep adding it, only for it to get removed. Anyone else having this problem?

[empty thicket]

maybe, there is tons of spells avaible

[ornate rapids]

a less-ethical but effective energy generation method would involve conjuring & enslaving fire elementals

[mental spoke]

Can someone help me with dnd beyond? I made a variant human character but it won't let me add the +1 to two different stats, it doesn't appear in the species tab

[empty thicket]

just fire bolt do a lot, fire walls, sorcs can metamagic some spell and turn it on fire

[still plover]

Did you have 2024 rules selected?

[empty thicket]

had that argument, its not good because would end up involving some other....problems

[mental spoke]

No I'm using 5e race and class

[glossy otter]

I mean I remember one book dwarves did that

[ornate rapids]

yes it's definitely not safe if those elementals escape, for instance

[glossy otter]

Thats when you need to bind them to Myrmidons

[empty thicket]

na that is the least of the problems

is more like some people will say that is enslaving and yara yara yara

and is easier to avoid such thing than having to face it

[still plover]

Well, I'm out of ideas. #ddb-support could help.

[empty thicket]

Artificers, wizards, sorc, druids and other many can provide me enough fire

[ornate rapids]

very true, enslavement is typically frowned upon in civilized society

[river vector]

My dnd party really be murdering people for a devil then adopting the baby. It's funny.

[woven flint]

I think the worse thing any of my characters has ever done was when my Minotaur Giant Barbarian popped a Mayors head like a grape with his barehands in front of his wife and kid

[glad ferry]

Just befriend an elemental or be in a relationship with one

Most messed up thing my character did was take the tail of the enemies kid and hung it in front of them saying "you mean this ugly thing?"

[woven flint]

He technically killed the guy for no reason, but, also because he was kinda in the way of one of his other party members taking over the town, the mayor was a genuinely good dude, just bad at what he did

[river vector]

The funny part is, the devil was after this baby for a reason, it has two evil gods sealed in it.

And now they have decided to just raise the child

[woven flint]

I as a player felt bad, but when HE was done, he just threw his body across the room and sat back down

[river vector]

minotaur of evil lmao

[woven flint]

He wasn't even evil, he's just doing what he's paid to lol

And that's to make sure that the other player gets into office

He could care less about the politics himself

[glad ferry]

Lol

So a chaotic neutral

[twilit shell]

The evil activities I got up to as a Gruul raider would affect my credit score if they came to light

[woven flint]

When he got paid, he was out, He left the party, but also because I had to leave the game too because scheduling

[woven flint]

Just Neutral

[glad ferry]

Love a true neutral

[woven flint]

His actions held no emotional weight on him

It was get the Bag. Go home. Retire.

[glossy otter]

I didn't know the gruul cared about credit score

[glad ferry]

Let's hear gruuls evil acts

Always up for a good story

[fossil hollow]

Gruul mention, as a Boros player, i cannot allow this anarchy

[glossy otter]

I mean Gruul were never necessarily evil

[river vector]

my players claim to be good while helping a vampire spawn PC murder people

[empty thicket]

most bad thing i had to do was defend myself from 2 allies. Beside that i did mostly good

[crimson gulch]

Boros, more like boring

[fossil hollow]

you mistake us for the azorius

when i get my hands on grand arbiter they are sooooo over

[glossy otter]

this reminds me of the time that in an older campaign, the party's bard tried to hit on Aurelia. Let's just say the bard got punched hard

[crimson gulch]

nope, they are at least cool with a spalsh of blue

[twilit shell]

I do not believe I can elaborate very much here, I will summarize with "heavy civilian casualties in pursuit of toppling the guilds"

[fossil hollow]

they tax relentlessly tho

[fossil hollow]

i dont see her even eyeing anyone unless they were the same paragon of virtue she upholds herself to be lmao

[glossy otter]

Eh, I just always thought she was never interested in relationships because they get in the way of the job

[fossil hollow]

that too

[glad ferry]

Those who think they're good can actually be evil and vice versa

[twilit shell]

She has a strong, monogamous relationship with justice

[fossil hollow]

wouldnt have it any other way. slay girlboss

[glossy otter]

Yeah, the bard was picking up some of her teeth after she tried to hit on that angel

[twilit shell]

I am surprise they didn't get ash babied

Eh, I guess Aurelia isn't quite rash enough to just disintegrate someone with holy light for flirting

[fossil hollow]

as insulting as hitting on aurelia might be, its not worth death

[twilit shell]

Now one of her firemanes might have that level of offense taken

[vernal owl]

Tung tung tung sahur

[fossil hollow]

now thats worth being reduced to a pile of ash

[glossy otter]

I mean what made it worse was because she was already stressed from dealing with disputes between Golgari and Rakdos. (For context, Golgari was warring because they thought another guild stole a relic, and Rakdos was just because they didn't take a fancy to Aurelia declaring war with the events of Murder at Karlov Manor)

[twilit shell]

Hmm, now I need to rank how guild leaders would react to getting hit on on a scale of instant death to agreeance

[twilit shell]

This from the Ravnica novels?

[fossil hollow]

niv mizzet would appreciate it, then probably blow you up nonchalantly

[empty thicket]

400 baboons or 50 gorilas.

[glossy otter]

It was meant to be a multiversal campaign though it was just from the storylline that I could find, along with the guidebook

[twilit shell]

"I appreciate the compliment, I do not appreciate you insulting me by insinuating you had any chance." Followed by a dr manhattan snap

[fossil hollow]

rakdos would be absolutely bored and feed you to imps

[glossy otter]

Ngl whilst that campaign didn't last long, I might make a headcanon Rakdos himself was just angry Aurelia backed down from her threat once she found out he wasn't responsible for numerous murders

[vernal owl]

Triple t lil bro ☠️☠️☠️🗿

[fossil hollow]

"seen it, next!"

[empty thicket]

150 gorilas? fair. Im rolling each one initiative.

[vernal owl]

No please i have a family

[glossy otter]

Rakdos does seem like the guy where if you threaten him with death, he just says "Don't threaten me with a good time!"

[empty thicket]

Liar, someone that say "tung tung tung" dont have one.

[fossil hollow]

isnt his thing tho is that hes extremely bored cuz hes seen almosteverything?

[glossy otter]

I think so, but apparantly both the Phyrexian invasion and thunder junction entertained him

[fossil hollow]

fair nough

[glossy otter]

ngl I'd kill for a thunder junction setting book

[fossil hollow]

thunder junction was mostly following the loot subplot (ugh, jace) and kellan, right?

[vernal owl]

Tung tung sahur is our family ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[fossil hollow]

you know, in my tarkir game, i should kill jace

im sick of that anime protag wannabe

[glossy otter]

kind of? It felt more the plot was father son bonding between Oko and Kellan

[twilit shell]

Kill Jace Beleren, make Ilharg incarnate the living guildpact. Spice it up

[glossy otter]

Though Tarkir is another setting I want to do, especially with the Spirit Dragon stat block from FR

[fossil hollow]

everyone's favorite thirst trap

[fossil hollow]

no, it stays the goat niv mizzet

[twilit shell]

Justifiable

[glossy otter]

After all, Sidisi would probably make for one hell of a lich bbeg

[fossil hollow]

yee. im using sarkhan and the dragonlords as my bbegs

[twilit shell]

Man this is making me miss DMing Ravnica 😔

[fossil hollow]

also... why the hell does taifei not have a shred of black mana in his cards

[glossy otter]

Though I did find a way to enjoy capenna in another campaign, as I threw it into my Strixhaven campagin

[fossil hollow]

if i ever run strixhaven, ill probably make them deal with both mage hunters and phyrexians

throw in some slivers and eldrazi because why not

[glossy otter]

Got that going rn as its pre invasion XD

[humble cairn]

Magic school hijinx!?

[fossil hollow]

no, just a school slaughter at that point

sorry, i vehemently hate strixhaven

[humble cairn]

-# But but ... magic school hijinx!

[fossil hollow]

wait for hexhaven

[glossy otter]

Ngl im curious how my party of college students plans to deal with a mob boss

[fossil hollow]

i think thats the off color strixhaven in an upcoming set

[humble cairn]

I like the different colleges, they have neat themes.

[fossil hollow]

they are neat. but i just hate strixhaven

[glossy otter]

My players and I joked about the flip versions of their characters at Hexhaven

[fossil hollow]

the new set makes me hate it less tho

[fossil hollow]

now i kinda wanna see school beef betwen strix and hex haven

[glossy otter]

Ngl I did consider having hexhaven as a competing school

[fossil hollow]

what im most interested when it comes to hexhaven is the potential for a new cycle of elder dragons

[twilit sail]

ooooh silvery barbs

[fossil hollow]

thats not even why i hate strixhaven, its too shallow

i knew strixhaven before i knew it was a dnd setting too

[cedar trout]

Hi guys

[fossil hollow]

hallo

[glossy otter]

Howdy

[glossy otter]

Yeah. It did feel like there wasn't a lot to go off of

[cedar trout]

How does dnd work?? i just heard the term years ago somewhere and stuck eversince lol

[fossil hollow]

genuinely seemed like a harry potter copout cash grab

[cedar trout]

I never played. I'm just a rather curious specimen

[fossil hollow]

if yer new to the hobby, i reccomend checking out #dnd-newcomers and reading over the Basic Rules! the peeps in that channel can better get ye oriented

[rotund thunder]

All I know about Strixhaven is that having relationships at max rank (often assumed to be a lover) gives you a mechanical benefit and having as many lovers as your proficiency bonus allows is encouraged

[glossy otter]

Eh. Fair. I just find it humorous as the timing for that book was the same year as the set

[rotund thunder]

Optimized college polyamory

[fossil hollow]

harem route

[cedar trout]

Ok thanks gang

[glossy otter]

Eh. They can be platonic. It purely depended on your route

[rotund thunder]

Or just play Strixhaven like it’s persona and don’t tell any of your partners about each other in the hopes they don’t find out (the evil route)

[twilit sail]

this is how every party should play

[glossy otter]

Tbh the joke is half my players call the campaign the dating simulator

[fossil hollow]

silverquill student spotted

speaking of which, i gotta upgrade the kellan deck to esper now

[turbid vessel]

To massively oversimplify: It's collaborative roleplay with some rules to add structure. Everyone at the table is playing a character, and they fill out a "character sheet' that informs the roleplay with both roleplaying and mechanical ideas. The roleplay happens in the world that the Dungeon Master runs, and the game plays like a conversation that uses dice and numbers to give certain choices an element of structure and controlled randomness

[fossil hollow]

eriette the beguiler is such a fun commander

[cedar trout]

Damn that's fun

[rotund thunder]

In a similar vein, the +2 AC bonus for marriage caused by the ceremony spell has no limit to the number of people who can be married at once, so the optimizer gameplay is to wait until the final fight or the most important fight and all get married together

[glossy otter]

Esper? All his cards contradict that colour scheme

[fossil hollow]

his focus on auras is fun in an eriette deck

i steal your stuff, then kellan makes me draw off the stolen creatres for extra value

[glossy otter]

Wait, which one?

[fossil hollow]

decisive mentor and beguiler

ink duellist actually still works with auras targetting enemies

[glossy otter]

Oh.killian. i was thinking the eldraine Kellan

[fossil hollow]

the boros one?

oh right, i did make a typo

[humble cairn]

Killian is hot and Asian, glad to see that represented!!

[fossil hollow]

hes the cousin my mother compares me to /j

[humble cairn]

This is as deep as my appreciation of Strixhaven gets apparently.

[nova steeple]

my d&d 5.5e hot take is that i think AC isn't complicated enough. what if we reversed it so armor class was better as it approached zero? we could even have a special number for each character that represented how high they would need to roll on a d20 to hit an armor class of zero. like, the value you need to hit armor class 0.

[fossil hollow]

why are we remaking THAC0

theres a reason why its no longer a thing, we dont need THAC0

[atomic kayak]

I suspect its moreso an attempt at a bad joke

[nova steeple]

also, instead of all this proficiency bonus nonsense, why don't we have a simple number for your attack bonus that incremented as you leveled depending on your class? since it would be your attack bonus before other modifiers - like some kind of base number - we could call it something like your attack bonus at floor

[nova steeple]

we do a little silly

[glossy otter]

I still remember the time people thought Wotc was making fun of people with Thaco the clown

[atomic kayak]

My suspicions have been confirmed

[still plover]

I like how this kid thinks!

[twilit shell]

And perhaps even a separate armor class that represents how difficult it is to land a touch on someone versus a weapon attack!

[fossil hollow]

im already shit at reading people irl, text does not make it any better

[atomic kayak]

Tbf if they were, it would moreso be making fun of themselves

[woven flint]

S t a r e

[nova steeple]

understandable

[glossy otter]

Eh, people thought it was supposed to be an insult to old fashioned gamers who gatekeeped

[woven flint]

Looking respectfully at Timothy Mothington

[fossil hollow]

what

[nova steeple]

firearms? hitting touch AC? back in my day, the only "fire" "arms" we had was when we recreationally set goblin arms on fire for fun! shakes fist at sky

[woven flint]

I just said your government name
Timamathy Motherino

[fossil hollow]

what do you need?

[woven flint]

Just saying Hi and I love you, bro :]

[twilit sail]

gay

[fossil hollow]

"this could have been an email"

[woven flint]

But also stop turning Gustav into a God, he's already narcissistic enough

[fossil hollow]

you drew the celestial card

[woven flint]

TWICE!

[fossil hollow]

you dont deal radiant damage, so no exquisite dawn

[woven flint]

The third time he's just gonna ascend to godhood

[glossy otter]

How did this escalate

[stray sage]

are ki effects considered magic when it comes to magic resistance in 5e 2014?

[woven flint]

No

[twilit sail]

put a ring on it bro
so you can get the +2AC

[fossil hollow]

i gave the party epic boons instead of normal deck of many thing effects

[glossy otter]

Ah

[nova steeple]

also they should bring back tome of battle

[fossil hollow]

sign me up

[woven flint]

And I drew the celestial card once before and have celestial wings

[fossil hollow]

whichever 5e chud playtester thought that fighter should be the simple class needs to be crucified

[nova steeple]

if wotc was based they would slowly turn 5.5e into 3.5e

[red steppe]

we have a wild grognard in chat?

[glossy otter]

reminds me of the time one of my campaigns characters accidentally exposed them to demon ichor and grew wings

[fossil hollow]

nah, 4e

[nova steeple]

i miss summoning pazuzu to ask for a candle of invocation

[twilit shell]

if WoTC was based they'd have you rolling for size of

[twilit sail]

didnt they add new stuff in 2024

[red steppe]

Based and true

This message is approved by the Demonic Sect enjoyers

[glossy otter]

wat

[red steppe]

i was skimming the previous conversation

[torpid hound]

The guys that decided the Fighter is too interesting and the Warlock uses the too right spellcasting ability?

[red steppe]

WOTC peaked at 3.5e

Martials shouldn't be mundane, let them do all the cool anime moves

[torpid hound]

Wait that wasn't what they were talking about

[glossy otter]

Ironically I found actual grognards are a thing few and far in between. Only twice I think I ever came across them

[nova steeple]

true im larping tbh

i play mostly pathfinder 1e i've touched 3.5e maybe once

[empty thicket]

A figther can literally do 12 attacks in less of 6 seconds
A barbarian can tank ANYTHING
A rogue can kill ANYTHING
Monk is Monk, it do so much stuff that i cant even name them

[torpid hound]

Only GURPS can simulate Superman fighting Goku

[nova steeple]

my current GM is a true grognard though, she's ride or die for 3.5e

[twilit shell]

Ah, the joy of gurps. So generically moderately enjoyable

[fossil hollow]

where is my steel wind strike/judgement cut

[red steppe]

Based

[glossy otter]

Eh, I mean grognards that legit don't like letting people into the hobby

[nova steeple]

according to my friend who GMs GURPS, it's extraordinarily painful to GM and easy to play

[fossil hollow]

why does th damn wizard get the anime teleport slash move

[umbral girder]

Ranger and Wizard both getting it.

[torpid hound]

I have seen the rules, that makes sense

Still don't know how an attack lands

[woven flint]

So Malaketh could get a sick triple crit that one time

[last flume]

Martials should be clearly superhuman in abilities at higher levels.
Throwing people through Objects or doing stuff like Steel Wind strike but you know, not as a Spell

Real

[fossil hollow]

im killing malaketh, thank you for reminding me

[red steppe]

4e ranger can potentially have an arbitrary amount of attacks
5e fails at both the barbarian, monk and rogue part

[woven flint]

:[

[empty thicket]

Yep, i think the same

A Barbarian with 17str should be able to lift a log and throw it through 3 persons.

[last flume]

If I wanna play a Barbarian I wanna grab a thug and bash him and myself through a Taverns wooden wall

[glossy otter]

yeah, looking back. Thaco the clown was one hell of a controversy

[nova steeple]

if my martials would be out of place in a mediocre wuxia web novel i dun want it

[empty thicket]

But the "Steel wind Strike" yeah, cant do such thing without adding magic

[twilit sail]

living on the edge
fighting crime
spinning webs

[halcyon forum]

Steel wind strike is just anime BS. you can do anime BS without magic

[empty thicket]

how they fail?

[torpid hound]

WotC once said Level 20 Fighters are Achilles are Level 20 Wizards are Zeus, why can't Level 20 Fighters be Hercules

[nova steeple]

no she loves getting new people into the hobby, she just loves getting people into 3.5e/pf1e instead of the newer editions

[fossil hollow]

hercules is a barbarian

[empty thicket]

yep, but still kinda hard.

[fossil hollow]

if a spellcaster can utter a few words and make meteors fall down, why are we limiting martials and peak physical prowess

[empty thicket]

They are more tanky, heal better and survive a lot more

[torpid hound]

Martial healer 💀

[fossil hollow]

eh, they die to stunned all the same

[empty thicket]

You are going to tell me that the barbarian after only 8 hour of sleep healed 20 slashes of swords, 4 cannonballs in the chest and 1 mountain above their head?

[fossil hollow]

also, thats defenses, nothing about offense

[halcyon forum]

" once per day you can go beyond your usual limits, you move faster than the eye can see, strike 5 creatures withing 30 ft of you for 6d10 damage, then you can end this action next to one of the targets"

not that hard

[crimson gulch]

Martials carry the game, they have the fewest limits

[fossil hollow]

toji would like to talk

[empty thicket]

Samurai new feature

[nova steeple]

back in my day, a level 20 wizard was functionally a god while a level 20 fighter could full attack 0.5 times a round and we liked it that way

[red steppe]

Lvl 20 martials should as a baseline:

• So y'know that one scene in Asura's Wrath, where the MC punches a dude's finger who is bigger than the earth, does multiple punch barrages at the finger and the dude explodes

• Move so fast that travelling time becomes nigh-trivial unless under specific extreme cases

• Actually be tanky, withstand blows that can obliterate entire moons

[halcyon forum]

and then you make it once per short rest later of whatever

[woven flint]

Light work
No reaction

Level 20 martials don't need to be anime characters to be cool

[empty thicket]

Yep, i know

just the mere fact that a martial lvl 20 can do such many feats without involving magic is a lot for me

[woven flint]

I think the
"I want my martial to throw mountains" fallacy is a little silly

[last flume]

We should have character with a similar power set like they have Frieren: Beyond Journey's End.

[woven flint]

And I LOVE playing me a big ol brute

[empty thicket]

Yeah the wizard can flat an entire town
The fighter will handle a whole division of 20 soldiers and drop down at least 5 in one turn + action surge.

[red steppe]

True, why constrain them to peak normal human capabilities

[last flume]

Badass Mages and super strong and durable Martials

[woven flint]

Literally this ^

[loud tendon]

Mythical over mystical i suppose..

[empty thicket]

A barbarian again, WILL TANK EVERYTHING. And to add, they can rage so hard that THEY CANT DIE.

[twilit sail]

i cast true polymorph

[woven flint]

A level 20 Barbarian could takd connective hits from a Tarrasque and probably be nowhere near bloodied

[halcyon forum]

I mean anime comes at different levels too. throwing mountains is silly but throwing a rock 3 times their size?, why not

[woven flint]

This ^

[nova steeple]

fighters exist to be the dumb meatshields for the party casters with overwhelming cosmic power and to stop the level 1 elf wizard from being savaged by a housecat

[glossy otter]

Looks at the Mystic in Mystical

Heresy

[fossil hollow]

i hit you with stun, paralyze, and non BPS damage

[empty thicket]

A Rogue Assassin will go in the back of some really strong creature and INSTANT CRITIC AND DROP IT DOWN.

[dim flicker]

i love barbarians cos it rewards me for my hubris of tanking anything\

[twilit sail]

isnt the best fighter build archery

[torpid hound]

They nerfed it, didn't they?

[fossil hollow]

not a thing anymore

[empty thicket]

please lets dont make this a Martial Vs caster.

[woven flint]

I'm a huge fan of Berserker Barbarian

[nova steeple]

create pit no diffs

[fossil hollow]

you already did

[twilit sail]

barbarian when the spellcaster takes out one of their fifty save or suck spells instead of using a damage spell

[empty thicket]

Nope, im pointing out how both are epic in their own way

[fossil hollow]

and im only thinking about monster effects. i killed a rogue last week with a pack of ghouls

i hit my party with a aoe stun just yesterday

and ive used hold monster on some of them a lot

[torpid hound]

Hey, we heard you like rage, so we put rage in your rage so you can rage while you're raging

[nova steeple]

fighter? archery? what are you on about, everyone knows shooting bows is for rangers /bait

[fossil hollow]

soon, theyre going to get charmed, frightened, stuned, proned, amongst other things

[steel moth]

Very early game rogues come decently close to what you're saying against the weaker standard enemies, but they fall off quickly after level 3.

[twilit sail]

nonsense
everyone knows that rangers are the best at

[red steppe]

Ray of Frost diffed and Plant Growth diffed 👍

[last flume]

Wizards on their way to transform themselves into a Gold or Brass Dragon with a single Spellslot or reviving themselves by transferring themselves in an arbitrary amounts of Clones.
Duplicate themselves with Simulacrum that can almost the same stuff the original Wizard can

[empty thicket]

Depend, i think all the martials and casters are goated in their own ways

[nova steeple]

rangers are best for going 5 levels into gloomstalker and then dipping out

[halcyon forum]

I really dont like using effects like stun or paralysis on PCs. Its basically me saying "you cant play the game this combat"

[steel moth]

not depends, facts

[nova steeple]

just like warlocks are best at level 1 hexblade and then paladin

[empty thicket]

no i mean it depend of the subclass you pick compared to what

[fossil hollow]

2-3 actually.

[red steppe]

also doesn't the barbarian just falls against an army due to action economy + poor ac (base class no multiclassing)

[twilit sail]

i think that you should make the pcs aware that it is a possibility before fighting those enemies

[torpid hound]

Start with Paladin for heavy armor

[nova steeple]

wait right 5e has stupid multiclass proficiencies

[plush cobalt]

how does the light cleric warding flare works, it should be used only when an adversary declares the attack, or can it be used after you see the attacker dice roll

[halcyon forum]

does that change anything? its either fun or not.

[red steppe]

They have access to the entire bestiary with a spell

[torpid hound]

No idea why they're gatekeeping heavy armor

[steel moth]

I am just responding to your assassin crits statement

[woven flint]

Imagine multiclassing

[lavish flame]

I'd vastly prefer stun effects on PCs if they just removed ur ability to do both an Action and Bonus Action, like the Slow spell does.

[twilit sail]

it changes it by making them more cautious and more likely to find a way to avoid it ig?

[nova steeple]

what ever warlocks are stinky

[twilit sail]

i cast eldritch blast

[fossil hollow]

Alice very much washes her clothes. along her kids' clothes

[last flume]

" [..]before the attacker before it hits or misses." Before the roll --you make them roll with disadvantage

[nova steeple]

imagine your build not having levels from five separate classes and two prestige classes

[woven flint]

Ph, i was referring to when we were talking about class dips for those who were confused 😭

[nova steeple]

they need to bring back PrCs

[torpid hound]

Bro's Abserd

[nova steeple]

i miss PrCs

[halcyon forum]

ehh, I'd rather just use other conditions and high amounts of damage. thats scary enough without removing interactivity

[woven flint]

I don't need to multiclass to kick ass!!!

Just accept your weaknesses people smh
FIGHT THEM!!

[red steppe]

prestige classes are pretty cool

[nova steeple]

in D&D 5e, all warlocks ever do in eldritch blast. back in 3.5e, all warlocks ever did was eldritch glaive

[torpid hound]

Aren't they just more complicated subclasses?

[empty thicket]

oh, in that scenario assassin is good while it have the initiative first and find some important target to take down.
Obviously compared to others it depend of a lot of things, equipment, scenario, etc. etc.

[halcyon forum]

you are just rage baiting at this point

[twilit sail]

technically speaking agonizing blast and repelling blast no longer have to be put on eldritch blast anymore

which is nice if youre playing a melee warlock

[nova steeple]

no, they're separate classes you could take when you reached certain prerequisites, usually in the form of skill ranks and having certain spell levels/class features

[steel moth]

no

[plush cobalt]

wouldn't declaring the flare after the dice is rolled but before dm declares if it hits or misses(given you don't know the bonuses) be in adequacy with the text?

[nova steeple]

did wanting to bring back thac0 not clue you in

[woven flint]

I can see why your pfp is like that 🤧

[empty thicket]

Yes.

[torpid hound]

I meant thematically

[woven flint]

Only BABIES multiclass! /teasing /silly

[steel moth]

multiclassing is fun

[nova steeple]

i think that 5e went WOKE when they added bounded accuracy, back in my day we would FULL ATTACK at +50 and MISS and LIKE IT

[loud tendon]

Hi.. ragebaiting, hot takes to cause controversy and other troll-like behaviors are not welcome here..

[empty thicket]

I wish Assassin had 1 more feature related to improvised weapons or smt like that

[crystal latch]

Multiclassing is the reason why 5e has more than like... 5-9 strong builds

[nova steeple]

nnnnot really either? like they serve different concepts

[loud tendon]

If you want to discuss the fun side/glory days of older editions please use #dnd-elder-editions

[steel moth]

imagine having variety

[woven flint]

I wanted to try a Spores Druid Mercy Monk multiclass a while back, but I just find playing characters straight monoclassed more fun and its easier to not worry about messing up your build

[steel moth]

I like putting more thought into making my character

[woven flint]

But Stink Aura monks fun doesn't allude me

[nova steeple]

im kind of astounded this is really silly

[steel moth]

monoclassing doesnt really hit it

more features = more choices to interact with the world

[red steppe]

Themes and such

[woven flint]

I mean...
You can put equal amounts of thought into a soloclassed character as much as you can multiclassed

[nova steeple]

being a bit silly is not allowed !

[fossil hollow]

you say that like you dont get more features from being monoclassed

[last flume]

"When you are attacked by a creature within 30 feet of you that you can see, you can use your reaction to impose disadvantage on the attack roll, causing light to flare before the attacker before it hits or misses."

You don't cause the roll be rerolled, you impose disadvantage on the roll.

[woven flint]

^^
You lose out on more Features multiclassing too

[steel moth]

pretty sure you get more features from multiclassing

[crystal latch]

Multiclassing massively increases variety in the meta because suddenly every fullcaster class picks one of several meaningfully different ways to secure 19 resting AC + the Shield and Absorb Elements spells

[nova steeple]

i mean in a good deal of non-casting classes in 5e your only options as you level solo-class are like. your subclass and your feats

[fossil hollow]

you get features from your classes

[nova steeple]

multi-classing at least adds one more

[fossil hollow]

spells are also features

[woven flint]

Shrug

[last flume]

Chronurgy as an example lets you:
As a reaction, after you or a creature you can see within 30 feet of you makes an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can force the creature to reroll.
The spelling different here.

See the lucky feat as well:
*You have 3 luck points. Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20. You can choose to spend one of your luck points **after you roll the die, but before the outcome is determined. *You choose which of the d20s is used for the attack roll, ability check, or saving throw.

[empty thicket]

Yes, but some features arent that "powerful" like others

[fossil hollow]

spellcasting is often called the best feature because its a bundle of other features (spells)

[empty thicket]

Yep, its why there is a whole line of classes around Spellcasting

[glossy otter]

Well, I just sent my players a vote for which New Cappena crime family they want to go up against. Only using colours to not give anything away

[empty thicket]

welp, 2 lines. the another is half casters

[little stream]

Fireball have a class

[fossil hollow]

did all of them survive the invasion speaking of which?

[little stream]

Question mark

[glossy otter]

The invasion hasn't happened yet

[steel moth]

in terms of like backstory, personality etc yeah sure

not in terms of building it mechanically though

[fossil hollow]

right, i meant in like, modern lore

[nova steeple]

i mean. yeah? mechanically speaking, multiclassing is a noob trap but it allows more advanced players room to optimize. it's a remnant of ivory tower design from older editions

[woven flint]

Sure 👍

[steel moth]

ok nothing disputes it so far

[nova steeple]

you could create a terrible barbarian 10 wizard 10 multiclass or a hexadin abomination, it's all about what you do with it

[glossy otter]

wait, hdym

[steel moth]

like you compare a standard wizard with a wizard with dip the latter tend to have more features

[fossil hollow]

after invasion, how many families survived?

[steel moth]

glad we agree!

[nova steeple]

anyways something something monoclassing is boring because you get like 2 choices throughout your whole adventuring career as you level anyways

[woven flint]

A full wizard getting full spell progression and not being behind because of a dip

[loud tendon]

Trolling is up in our #rules section.. its unhealthy and disruptive to chat to have people come in just trying to cause chaos and/or strife.

Constructive communication or debate is welcome.. but moderation shop talk is technically off topic unless in #moderator-support ' so enjoy your d&d convos

[glossy otter]

They're all still standing. Though Ob Nixilis has taken over the Maestros

[nova steeple]

im being a silly billy

[fossil hollow]

oooh, right, its xander who died

[woven flint]

We eat his remains to assert dominance

[fossil hollow]

still against the rules. if a mod told ya twice, its probably a sign to not

[humble cairn]

Every level of every class gets you something and since there's only a finite number of levels you can get, multiclassing doesn't really get you more features, it just gets you different features. And considering how you can get redundant features that don't work together or can't stack your more likely to get less usable features than more.

[glossy otter]

in actual lore though I don't think his powers gonna last long because the other families want blood according to the flavour text of his desparked card

[fossil hollow]

mmm

[empty thicket]

Evoker, fey patron, lore bard, light domain, artillerist

and some other subclass that give you acces to it

[woven flint]

Xanaxthar 🧐

[torpid hound]

You have to know the basics to multiclassing to do it effectively (there are exceptions to these rules)

1. Don't multiclass until your first class is level 5
2. Don't gain more than 3 levels in a class
3. Don't be M.A.D.

[ornate rapids]

I've only ever multiclassed once and I went into it only because I knew it was a temporary character to fill-in while I waited for my main character to be revived
Which did end up taking a long time to happen but not too long. I'd never multiclass a full caster which is what I typically play

[humble cairn]

Monoclassing is also fun and effective.

[ornate rapids]

that character being a Ranger 5 Rogue 3 before I stopped using him

[steel moth]

you get full spell progression, you get signature spells and two more spells yes

on the other hand lets say we do a cleric dip
you get a cleric subclass, you get armor prof, you get access to any spell on the cleric list if it's an action via carto and more

Multiclassed does offer more complexity

[prisma prairie]

The problem that multi classing has is are you using it for a specific valid reason to gain a benefit or is it legit "I wanna be wizard but rouge and stab ppl with magic"

[nova steeple]

i feel like the only rule that's close to having broad consistency is the third

[plush cobalt]

so that means the warding flare is made to be "spammed" on attack declaration and the others only after you see a guy hit right? so to speak

[torpid hound]

You always want Extra Attack/Level 3 spells

[humble cairn]

More complexity, but not more features. And the complexity is often less effective.

[fossil hollow]

you declare using warding flare when theyre about to roll yes

[crystal latch]

Very notably, you take your armor dip at level 1
And that's pretty much the single most important form of multiclassing in the game

[nova steeple]

nah, plenty of builds go for a 1-3 level dip early

[torpid hound]

That's if you're using Heavy Armor

[fossil hollow]

on another topic, i also didnt realize we were in #optimization

[hot reef]

^ you’ll just be a bit weaker than the rest of the party for one level

[crystal latch]

2 is true for all good classes and untrue for all martials
3 is overhyped because many seemingly MAD builds are effectively SAD (cleric 1 doesn't make you need higher than 13 Wis)

[nova steeple]

level 3 spells are nice but it's acceptable to delay casting for a few levels if class features are worth it

[cloud minnow]

hello! so i’ve never played DND but ik there’s set classes in it, i also know there’s homebrew but also there’s a way to like put a character into dnd by matching them to a class i have a couple questions regarding all that so would it go here or in the homebrew channel?

[steel moth]

I mean, it is literally more features

Level 20 wizard you get Signature Spells, that's one feature

Level 1 Cleric you get lets say you do Twilight Cleric, you get Bonus Prof, Eyes of Night and Vigilant Blessing

literally more features, 1 vs 3

[nova steeple]

if you're true multiclassing and going for more than a dip being MAD is probably a bad idea, but otherwise yeah

[fossil hollow]

forgetting 2 more spells in your spellbook

[torpid hound]

There's a reason they changed all subclasses to level 3

[nova steeple]

are we also not allowed to talk about the mechanics of the mechanical combat simulation dice rolling tabletop game in the general channel for the tabletop game?

[fossil hollow]

if theres a specific channel thats better for a topic, it should go there

[torpid hound]

I forget 2 more spells in my spellbook? What a terrible feature!

[woven flint]

Quantity =/= Quality

[humble cairn]

Sure, I could parse things to have more stuff by naming more things and dividing useful things up as well.

[steel moth]

You get four spells from the Cleric level if you want to argue that. Plus the entire spellist for Cleric actions spells from carto

[fossil hollow]

ugh, carto

[steel moth]

???

[little stream]

How does one forget? When it's in the spell sheet, waiting to be use

[crystal latch]

Ranger 5/Cleric 5/Assassin 4/Battle Master 4/Divine Soul 1/Whatever else 1 doesn't need any stat other than Dex, aside from 13s to meet MC prereqs

[steel moth]

You are moving the goalpost lul

[crystal latch]

That's the only build I can think of that goes for more than a dip, aside from paladin which only takes Cha caster class levels

[torpid hound]

What abomination am I looking at

[plush cobalt]

a battlemaster 20 would probably spank the hell out of that guy

[crystal latch]

Nah, ranger 5 means you get PwT

[red steppe]

Moon Knight

[crystal latch]

No, moon knight is different

[humble cairn]

Not that pvp is a measure of anything important.

[torpid hound]

A Paladin 20 would divine spank him

[ornate rapids]

I couldn't imagine shoving more than 2 classes on a character

[lyric viper]

Woop, folk remember we do have #optimization for this type of chat

[torpid hound]

Laughs in Vax'Ildan

[crystal latch]

Moon Knight is moon druid 3/beast barb 6/assassin 3/battle master 3/gloom 4/monk 2 forgor the order

[nova steeple]

are we seriously not allowed to talk about the mechanics of the dice-rolling tabletop game in the general channel of the dice-rolling tabletop game.

[torpid hound]

Dude just play a Fighter

[nova steeple]

this is silly

[red steppe]

There's a new one? I wasn't aware of it

[lyric viper]

If there are specific channels for a topic, got to let those channels do their jobs

[woven flint]

Well, what I really mean is

You could literally get MAJORITY of what you just said by playing a Dwarf in 2014 rules.

Dark Vision, Armor Proficency, and could also just.. attune to a weapon of warning.

[fossil hollow]

you can do so in the specified channel. see the channel description

[ornate rapids]

but ofc I am biased in that I really do prefer monoclassing, but multiclassing for oneshots or short-term campaigns is more fun

[fossil hollow]

also, you might want to read #rules

[woven flint]

(And some Cleric stuff from magic initiate)

[lyric viper]

You're more likely to get folk who are interested in that topic and also frees up general chat for other topics that don't have a specific home elsewhere.

[steel moth]

you are still moving the goalpost

we are talking about if multiclassing give more features, why are you bringing races in the convo?

[crystal latch]

Ew no

[mystic crystal]

Chat I need a fishing mechanic in D&D that’ll really bring the game together

[fossil hollow]

see dragonlance module for the fishing minigame

[crystal latch]

5e has fishing mechanics, they were added in Spelljammer

[torpid hound]

Crazy out of context

[mystic crystal]

I didn’t know that thanks

[steel moth]

😭

[crystal latch]

Also bears are fish in 5e, this is important if you want to fish a bear

[fossil hollow]

everything is a fish

[mystic crystal]

I’m sorry, Bears are fish

[crystal latch]

Bears are fish because the Trident of Fish Commands work on polar bears

[woven flint]

Yes, because a Species literally does just what the dip you mentioned does?

Why play with a Cleric dip in twilight for that when you could play a Dwarf?

Majority of things you could get from multiclassing can be solved by species and feats.

[mystic crystal]

Huh?

[steel moth]

going to drop my teddy fish

[crystal latch]

i.e. Polar Fish

[mystic crystal]

That’s sick

[fossil hollow]

(trident of fish command works on any beast with a swim speed, including polar bears)

[little stream]

Imma keep this mental image, thx

[glossy otter]

That explains why everyones a fan of the legendary DM Matt Merfish

[fossil hollow]

irl tho, anything can be a fish.

fish isnt a biological term

[hot reef]

And black bear in 24

[torpid hound]

Plot twist: The fisher is a retired level 20 Water Genasi Hexadin

[steel moth]

multiclassing lets me pick an actually good race instead of compenstating my losses through race

[mystic crystal]

Is there an actual mechanic when multiclassing to drop levels in the old class to move them to the new class? Or is that a homebrew type thing

[glossy otter]

Technically they'd be a triton

[steel moth]

or I can pick one that I want to play instead of dwarf

[little stream]

I found a shoe once, so yea. Anything could be a fish

[crystal latch]

A level 20 hexadin is like a level 13 caster or so, so that is indeed powerful enough to fish a bear

[torpid hound]

That implies the existence of multiple Tritons

[fossil hollow]

what shoe size? if its smaller than size 5 usd, gotta toss it back

[steel moth]

also you have limited feats, not paying the feat tax no sir lol

[hot reef]

No mechanic to change existing levels

[fossil hollow]

its almost like its a whole species of people

[glossy otter]

I mean they're a race

[torpid hound]

Wait what

[lyric viper]

Going to have to ask for the character build discussion to either be taken to #character-discussion or #optimization

[steel moth]

fair

[woven flint]

Thats why 2024 has origin feats so you can pretty much get certain things you'd ge from multiclassing right at level 1.

[fossil hollow]

triton is a species of underwater folk

[little stream]

Working shoe actually, a bit rotted. More smelly then a fish, which was odd to say the least

[glossy otter]

ironcially the same race that I've seen a bard unwittingly commit genocide upon

[steel moth]

I dont play 2024 so not going to comment on that

[fossil hollow]

did they poison the water

[crystal latch]

What are the odds that a big fish I randomly encountered in the woods likes to cast Wish?

[lyric viper]

Tritons have those bendy legs.

[fossil hollow]

does it talk? and asks you to put it back?

[steel moth]

moving to somewhere else

[crystal latch]

It roars and doesn't ask

[fossil hollow]

probably not then

[torpid hound]

"I wish this was someone else's problem"
Then the fish switches places with another fish

[glossy otter]

No, they thought they were just destroying a military base to help their aaracokra uncle (he was adopted). Lets just say the bombs were linked by the bbeg to level the entire kingdom

[woven flint]

Origin feats don't fix everything, but they're a good bit of the reason I find multiclassing redundant

Even in 2014 rules, If I wanted something, I just played the thing with things I wanted and then get everything without having to worry about sacrificing features

[glossy otter]

Left the poor bard with ptsd for weeks

[little stream]

Sounds like a job well done

[lyric viper]

Wait actually is it tritons who used to have the bendy legs, or am I thinking of yet another sea person?

[fossil hollow]

theyre pretty bendy

[glossy otter]

All I can think is the Sahuagin from BG3

[torpid hound]

Trying to resist the urge to not reference BATIM

[lyric viper]

One of them used to be like Melusine / the Starbucks Logo

[mystic crystal]

I wonder what it’s like to argue with a mod for attention. Interesting

[lyric viper]

Ah, it was tritons. fishy bendy legs.

[glossy otter]

Now, where's the mind flayer race so I can play a flamboyant mind flayer that just wants new vocal chords, and just happens to see Triton as the most gullible lot

[empty thicket]

I cant read triton and dont think in a fish with human legs, a Reverse siren...

[woven flint]

All legs can be bendy if you try hard enough 🧐

[torpid hound]

(I was thinking about the Greek god)

[glossy otter]

That does make me think, can mind flayers swim

[little stream]

Fish?

[torpid hound]

Pretty sure everyone can expend X2 movement speed to swim

[lyric viper]

Y'know what, I'm going to abuse Mod privileges both to post old Triton art to prove I'm not crazy and also because Valeria Valusek is ont of my favourite AD&D artists:
Tritons make an entrance (Valerie Valusek, “The Deadly Sea” by Carol and Robert Pasnak, Dungeon 3, TSR, January/February 1987)

[glossy otter]

it's because it's rare that they can walk

[fossil hollow]

if they dont have a swim speed

[glossy otter]

huh, an army of Jason Mamoas I see

[little stream]

Float?

[lyric viper]

They didn't have knees, they just bendy. Always looked like they were running around in scaley bell bottom jeans.

[feral fulcrum]

All I can see is a bunch of unreasonably buff rioting Mer-men Farmers.

[fossil hollow]

floating would still be moving in water, so double movment cost

[fossil hollow]

missing th beard

[lyric viper]

Some of the older 1e AD&D art has the legs go full curve.

[torpid hound]

No, farmers would be earth elementals (whatever race that is)

[glossy otter]

Now I really want to play that mind flayer warlock/bard

[fossil hollow]

fish farmers are a thing

[torpid hound]

That's called a fisher

[fossil hollow]

as well as pearl farmers

[fossil hollow]

nope. as in they raise fish

[glossy otter]

Now, to give the mind flayer two eel henchmen/familiars

[fossil hollow]

raising salmon is a common thing in america/canada

[little stream]

So hypothetically I could have a mind flyer fish pet

[fossil hollow]

my grandpa in the philippines had a lake of catfish

[torpid hound]

Weird
10d10 Psychic damage

[fossil hollow]

counterspell

[torpid hound]

I succeed on the Constitution save

[fossil hollow]

its a spellcasting check for me

[torpid hound]

?

[fossil hollow]

i use 2014 counterspell

[torpid hound]

Dude, it's 2024. If it was 2014 I would have NOT prepared Weird

And it wouldn't have dealt 10d10 damage immediately

[bronze wave]

just prep hypnotic pattern buddy

[fossil hollow]

i use 2014 counterspell

[little stream]

Honorary moon knight mention

[high jolt]

What are some ways to increase immersion in a campaign? Things like keeping track of a calendar

[torpid hound]

Bro's late

[torpid hound]

Intensify your describing

[feral fulcrum]

Hypothetically you could certainly have a brain-eating tadpole pet, yes. It would be increidbly foolish, and likely to end in your demise, but you could certainly try.

[river vector]

I'm this close to kicking out a player that is online while we are having sessions, yet tells me nothing about not being able to attend, and is ignoring my messages.

[little stream]

I wasn't catching on earlier bru, finally now it made sense

[twilit shell]

subtle spell ezpz

[torpid hound]

BRB

[glossy otter]

I mean how long has this gone for?

[feral fulcrum]

Give them the boot, if they can't respect your, and the groups time, and can't even be bothered to tell you they'll be missing sessions, they're not worthy of your time.

[jolly canyon]

I vote kick!

[glossy otter]

For the most part without too much context I'm in the same boat as asdx

[river vector]

Weeks on and off, always sounds bored and disengaged during sessions, had me make a backstory for him.

[little stream]

A man could dream yknow

[feral fulcrum]

If is effortless to give a DM a heads up that you can't make a session. If you can't muster up that UTTERLY meager effort...it's clear they don't give a crap.

[jolly canyon]

Communication is respect. If they aren't communicating properly then you are being disrespected and there is no room for disrespect at the table.

[high jolt]

Some people don’t deserve to play dnd with you.

[river vector]

This is true

I don't think he's that invested anyway

[glossy otter]

yeah, maybe so if they keep doing all this stuff to you

[jolly canyon]

Win win then. You kick a disrespectful player and that player now has a free Friday night or whatever the schedule is. Everyone is happy.

[glossy otter]

To reiterate asdx's point, if they don't value your time, why value theirs

[little stream]

Deadass you want a stand in? I don't know much about rules but somewhat understand it

[glossy otter]

If they're looking for players, they'll most likely post in the LFG or find someone within their inner circle

[river vector]

I'll likely just get a friend to come and fill in, but thanks for the offer.

[little stream]

[river vector]

I'll flat out ask him if he'll keep acting this way

That is, if he doesn't just keep ignoring my messages

[little stream]

How you do anything is how you do everything, that's always been in mind in anything. I may be busy but I'll always tell so yea

[glossy otter]

I mean you could give him an ultimatum to respond by end of day or something

[twilit sail]

Ye do this

[warm meadow]

Hello everyone

[glossy otter]

howdy

man, now yall have me in a disney fit rn XD

[warm meadow]

Heyy!

[little stream]

You get friend in me

[glossy otter]

More poor unfortunate souls lol

[warm meadow]

Me

[glossy otter]

Now, time to find a wholesome bard to make a deal for their vocal chords.....

[warm meadow]

What does Disney mood mean?

[turbid vessel]

in sleep he sang to me, in dreams he came...

[glossy otter]

Its because we were all talking about triton and their legs

[rough basalt]

Reminds me one time I had downtime as a bard where we had soldiers building up a fort. And I told the DM my bard was playing a song about "being a man" and "that he must be as swift as a coursing river"

[red steppe]

Do triton legs taste like salmon

[warm meadow]

How are you

[little stream]

Oh yea that happens when ya send gif or image

[red steppe]

deltarune reference

[still plover]

-# I got that reference.

[red steppe]

Yeah Mystra doesn't like it when you try to be silly

[little stream]

"enough" hope that would suffice

[fossil hollow]

sharing ages isnt allowed here

... oh

i cant read

[bronze wave]

😔

[fossil hollow]

dnd player curse hit me hard

[bronze wave]

Avg dnd player smh

[cursive fox]

Failed the perception check

[little stream]

Me 2 apples old tank

[fair plinth]

Anyone have those days that are just kinda sad
I havent played dnd in so long

[warm meadow]

You won't like to talk further

[rough basalt]

DnD players: "Ah yes, my illiteracy feat. I haven't used that since last round of combat."

[severe rampart]

Natural 1 😭

[fossil hollow]

i need to check for dyslexia

[woven flint]

Okay, Roll a Charisma check

[fossil hollow]

6

[woven flint]

That's actually your Charisma score now

[fossil hollow]

i cant dm now

[woven flint]

It got better!

[fossil hollow]

yaay

[rough basalt]

Tonight I get to roll dice.

[uneven stone]

hi ppl

[craggy summit]

Hopefully dnd and not something like craps at the casino!

[uneven stone]

modifier*

[rough basalt]

Hopefully dnd.

[bronze canopy]

I always get to roll dice, even when I’m not playing DnD

[twilit shell]

"Dang, you really pushed my limits. I'll have to break out a move I haven't used since the UA era: willful misinterpretation of the rules!"

[woven flint]

No, Score.

[uneven stone]

damn

[woven flint]

He had a 3, its a 6 now

[warm meadow]

Hello, my friend, where are you?

[uneven stone]

such hate

[woven flint]

Me, slandering Timothy

[rough basalt]

Intentional violation of the rules is a cursed technique

And I'm a special grade.

(I need to eat I'm going insane)

[uneven stone]

is this jjk

[woven flint]

JJK Brainrot enrages me

JJK fans are worse than D&D players

[empty thicket]

both share one thing, they dont read

[uneven stone]

me when the level 1 (one!!!) fighter decided they had unlimited superiority dice because idfk

[rough basalt]

DnD players are the JJK fans of Tabletop RPGs

[umbral girder]

I believe JJK fans read more

[uneven stone]

wasnt supposed to even have a single superiority die

[craggy summit]

I've been playing since 2019 and been a DM for about a year now, and (I'm kinda ashamed to admit this) I haven't fully read the entirety of the PHB(s) 😅 I really should one of these days

[empty thicket]

jajajjajajajjajajaja no

[uneven stone]

...says hi in having read way too much

[empty thicket]

there is always 1% in everything

[warm meadow]

Lol, true, both are pretty passionate fanbases

[sour folio]

QWERTY's his keyboard with face

[empty thicket]

And a reminder, all books are remix of the dictionary.

[uneven stone]

yeah im also the 1% of dnd players thats neurotypical i fear

[empty thicket]

oh no, i expect that be the 45% at least

[uneven stone]

the dictionary is just a shitty remix of the alphabet

[uneven stone]

neurotypical vro

not neurodivergent

[sour folio]

That's why I write in runic sometimes xD

[empty thicket]

Damn, you won this one

[empty thicket]

sorry im colorblind /jk

[woven flint]

Sorry, I'm...

Tokii

[warm meadow]

Wait, what does that mean?

[uneven stone]

beautiful cat with homophobia type shit

[woven flint]

Real

[empty thicket]

Yes

In any way, please people, read your stuff

[sour folio]

That's when you take your face, and slam it into the keyboard until the QWERTY on your keyboard is visible. AKA I'm stressed.

[uneven stone]

yeah

[robust juniper]

should i make my oc into a dnd character :mmm: (look at pfp)

[timber turtle]

College of spirits bars definetly aren't wizards right?

[uneven stone]

i fear my monitor is too shit for that

is it like some guy wth a sword?

[robust juniper]

yesss

[uneven stone]

or is it a face?

ah okay

[robust juniper]

if i could i would send pic

[sour folio]

I don't think they're wizards? More akin to warlocks I think cause they utilize magic that draws on historical figures and stuff if I remember right? I haven't done a bard in years.

[lusty tendon]

idk about you guys but do you have a character where their ancestor or grandfather was a previous character you played

[uneven stone]

anyways, is it just me or is the spell plant growth just utterly broken?

[robust juniper]

absolutely it is

[uneven stone]

spike growth*

[robust juniper]

ah

[twilit sail]

Finn Fighterman
Frank Fighterman
Franklin Fighterman

[uneven stone]

plant growth was a different one i thnk