dnd-discussion

[mighty wharf]

But the subtraction to saving throws feels bad when you cant take advantage of it the most with continous save spells... like it'd be perfect for Phantasmal force or tashas laughter.

[rough basalt]

It's a team game

[severe rampart]

You could tag team

[severe rampart]

There's an Echo in here

[harsh oxide]

Yeah your right there

[rough basalt]

It's probably one of the best 1st level control spells available to Bards and Clerics.

[mighty wharf]

I suppose but that means asking my teammate to take a spell they may not want...

Good thing I have a familiar and spell storing ring!

[severe rampart]

Sleep? Or wait... hm, I might be wrong, Bards may not get sleep

[rough basalt]

D4 minus to saves and attack rolls can be encounter defining at low levels.

[mighty wharf]

So wait, is that rolling the d4 every attack/save or doing it once and applying it to all of them?

[rough basalt]

Every

[mighty wharf]

That's kinda annoying.

My DM would HATE that.

[rough basalt]

Not really. If it was just 1 for all that'd be not really worth a slot.

[severe rampart]

It's just a d4

You can roll it alongside the "to hit" and saving throw dice

[mighty wharf]

Every attack and saving throw for 3+ creatures though?

[reef tundra]

Also the enemies can try to break the concentration of whomever cast it

[severe rampart]

And if it's digital then why is he complaining

[rough basalt]

I've used Bane against players before. It's fun.

Nice thing with how I got it set up in foundry is it'll automatically roll the -1d4 for affected targets.

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah! My players are now in a place where they would be fighting spellcasters, any fun spell ideas to use against players? (Level 5)

[mighty wharf]

At least it's not as bad as tashas laughter which is rerolling a saving throw at disadvantage every time they take damage

[rough basalt]

I've used 6th and 7th level spells against level 5s.

[severe rampart]

Yup, no worries, just need some spell ideas

[mighty wharf]

My DM just used a 9th level fireball against a level 5 party 😭

[rough basalt]

Based

9th level upcasts aren't too bad.

[mighty wharf]

This DM seems better than my current one tbh

He's basically Magic Jarring someone into a Wretch lol. Keeping game stats but otherwise, Wretch with cursed existence.

[rough basalt]

The 5.5e Archmage has a 9th level Cone of Cold at cr12

[mighty wharf]

He has plans to do transformations and corrupting everyone which works perfectly because I was planning on Magic Jarring a dude with exhaustion immunity anyways. It fits my character's themes and my mechanical motivations perfectly.

[strong wave]

What is magic jarring

[feral fulcrum]

The act of using Magic Jar

[severe rampart]

The jar that is magic

[fast latch]

What kind of dumb Archmage uses a 9th-Level Slot on Cone of Cold when Meteor Swarm and Psychic Scream exist?

[rough basalt]

Mages in lore don't operate on the same rules as PC mages do

[severe rampart]

NPCs are built different

[rough basalt]

Also for balance purposes

Meteor Swarming a level 6 party may not be the best idea.

[fast latch]

Possessing a creature with Magic Jar

[feral fulcrum]

TLDR Magic Jar is a sixth level spell that lets you stuff your soul into a jar. This would be pointless and only harmful, if you couldn't then Possess anyones body with like 100 feet of said jar.

It is almost entirely a DM only spell.

[fast latch]

And for some reason it doesn’t let you use the Class Levels of a creature you’ve possessed

[severe rampart]

Permanently?

[feral fulcrum]

Because Class Levels for the most part, are entirely a PC only thing.

NPC's don't get classes and levels

[feral fulcrum]

Pretty much, yeah. If they fail the save, they're just boned IIRC

Unless the Jar gets destroyed

[potent knoll]

where can i ask questions about dnd beyond (i really hate the redesign, everything has been hidden when it was so accessible before)

[fossil hollow]

#ddb-support

[fast latch]

The Druid stat block is definitely a Druid

[feral fulcrum]

If you want to give feedback on how it sucks then there's #ddb-feedback as well

[rough basalt]

A Druid, not a Druid Class

[feral fulcrum]

There's a DISTINCT difference between calling something a Druid, and it having X levels in the Druid Class.

Monster/NPC Stat-blocks do not = player statblocks.

The few examples, such as Druid mentioning "a 4th level spellcaster" were just early quirks of them not really knowing what they were doing. And notably, didn't actually give them a class.

And they rapidly moved away from that because it was dumb.

[rough basalt]

For example a PC druid can pick each spells they want a day.
A typical NPC druid pretty much only knows how to cast those spells on its statblock.

[reef tundra]

IIRC the MM has like, one line about saying you can switch an NPC’s spell list but that was upon creation I believe

[severe rampart]

Which is stupid imo, such a limited spell list

[feral fulcrum]

Something something Homebrew, something something It Turns out tweaking monsters to fit your group and playstyle is healthy and good actually.

[rough basalt]

Nah

We believe in the hallowed Sanctity of the statblock

[feral fulcrum]

Especially when WOTC was....rather drunk at points in 2014 Monster Design.

[fast latch]

Like when?

[severe rampart]

Whaaaat? But the statblocks are sooo good

[rough basalt]

Gives you an MM and Encounter Calculator for Monster design they didn't even use.

[feral fulcrum]

"Oh yeah we guess, like, Dragons were like, supposed to be magical or something, we guess, here's a lazy sidebar we almost forgot to add."

[primal estuary]

are spindown dice actually any better objectively or is it an opinion business

[reef tundra]

Now, while I love homebrew for DMs most often, and tweaking, I actually find running the game RAI still works fine

[rough basalt]

I wonder the sheer fury the old guard had when it was ordained that the new corebooks would release in the correct order.

[feral fulcrum]

And also their habit of just default to "More Resistances and Immunities and HP is good design, right? That's what CR cares about yeah?"

[reef tundra]

My latest online campaign I’ve just been running stat blocks as is, and it’s been great!

[rough basalt]

"Wdym you're giving people the DMG before the MM so they can know how to run games and use the MM when it releases instead of the MM first and referencing the DMG that's not out yet as how to use the MM?"

[reef tundra]

Well, mostly, I do sometimes give them an item or two

[feral fulcrum]

Reminder that the 5.5E books were INTENDED to be released togetehr, but WOTC was slow, decided to ditch their publisher, and shoot themselves in the feet for...some reason.

[reef tundra]

It was quite funny in 2024 looking through the DMG and it referencing the MM and it felt like “can I see it?” “No”

[mighty wharf]

Would it be wrong to send my DM a spell wishlist of spells I'd be happy to see as a Wizard... I have been kinda hyperfixated the past night or so. It's just preparation before my first session really, and I know he was planning on dropping a spellbook somewhere.

[feral fulcrum]

Things weren't ready for the deadline, they just had to hit the anniversary, and generally just tripped over their own feet several times in a row.

[reef tundra]

Doesn’t sound too bad to me

[rough basalt]

It was the old guards last ditch effort to deepsix the franchise and unfortunately for them it didn't work out the way they hoped.

[mighty wharf]

I don't want him to feel bad if I get a book of random spells and get disappointed if they're not ones I'd use...

[mighty wharf]

I just feel like I'm bombarding my DM with questions...

[reef tundra]

As a DM, I often ask my players if they have any requests for items

[reef tundra]

Some DMs (like me) love being asked questions

[fast latch]

I’d appreciate if a PC did that

[feral fulcrum]

That's a rather paranoid outlook. I think the simpler, more likely answer was just typical corporate misamangement and bumbling

[rough basalt]

True but I like my theory better.

I think it's good that Perkins went to Darrington Press.

Judging his design ideas off of Spelljammer, I think his current mind for design fits Daggerhearts more free-form approach.

[feral fulcrum]

As long as the DM isn't the type to rely solely On RNG tables for loot (Which is very poor practice), I don't many would mind a player giving them ideas for what to toss their way in the future.

[rough basalt]

Cause he wanted Spelljammer to be "no rules just vibes" and in a system where rules do matter even tho they don't want them to. Not good.

[fleet tusk]

?phb

[cosmic roost]

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[feral fulcrum]

Everyone that was involved in the creation of Spelljammer for 5E at the head level should have been canned.

[rough basalt]

There was also quite a bit removed too

Iirc Dark Sun (Doomsphere or Athassphere in 2e) was supposed to be one of the few systems.

But it got cut. I think by the executive producer.

The "Dark Sun 5e will never happen" guy

There was a good amount of developmental problems between Tashas and the new team taking over that it's easy to miss cause there was only 2 infamously bad products, and there was bigger scandals such as the Bigbys Presents: Glory of the AI and OGL shenanigans.

Spelljammer and Vecna

Both victims of cutting long planned content and rewrites

[wraith arch]

This is my first character is this bad

[feral fulcrum]

I'd barely call Bigby's a scandal

[reef tundra]

Fire away, Grayson! I’m sure it’s not too bad

[feral fulcrum]

"Woops we got lazy and didn't check an artist, oops."

[rough basalt]

Well it got blown more out of proportion cause of YT I believe

[feral fulcrum]

yeah but it's Youtube.

It's a breathless content farm that latches onto anything and everything, when it's not just making things up outright.

[wraith arch]

I got blocked and banned from the server my first potential game

[reef tundra]

Oh well I’m sorry to hear that

[rough basalt]

True. A game I enjoys community content creators are just constantly making crap up to get people to hatebomb the devs

[wraith arch]

Is it that bad

[reef tundra]

Well I don’t know the character

And most often people get banned from servers not because of the character

[rough basalt]

DnDtubers farm WotCs mistakes for clicks due to negativity gets more algorithm.

It's why a lot are quiting or going on hiatus

[teal falcon]

Is there anywhere to get different class boards and cards for heroes of the borderlands made?

[rough basalt]

WotC hasn't made any serious mistakes since Vecna that they can content farm.
Lorwyn was just cancelled stuff released for the sake of releasing which was their only bad thing.

[reef tundra]

Such a shame about how vocal negativity is

[rough basalt]

The "Ranger bad" well didn't get filled as much as they hoped

[reef tundra]

I am very convinced that the complainers about dnd are actually just a really weird minority and the majority of players are just not online and having fun at their games

[rough basalt]

That's pretty much the truth

Most of dnds playerbase don't even actually play dnd as we know it.

They just free-form RP with dice and call it dnd.

[reef tundra]

WOTC = Wizard of the coast, the owners of Dungeons and Dragons

[reef tundra]

Must be why so many people complain about martials /hj

[lost flicker]

Iiii wouldn't say this is most but there's definitely a good portion

[reef tundra]

-# I’m kidding, optimisers, dw

Are you referring to wanting people to pay for their books or are you referring to something else?

[lost flicker]

Hello everynyan, it's me, your resident problem causer, here to cause problems, how are we doing today, what are we talking about

[reef tundra]

-# It’s a big can of worms

-# Best to avoid the topic

[lost flicker]

Stares straight at the topic

[rough basalt]

Not exactly far off

[lost flicker]

Causes problems causes problems causes problems

[reef tundra]

-# I don’t want to open it it’s not a fun discussion

[rough basalt]

The actual martial caster divide is only at high optimization levels

[reef tundra]

Hello! Doing good! Sleepy

[lost flicker]

Martials don't get as much as casters do is the general thing

[eager marsh]

Also 1-2 encounter days that plague many tables

[lost flicker]

Many such cases

[rough basalt]

For the average table the "martial caster divide" is inflicted by players skill and dms mistakes

[lost flicker]

They call her the sleeper

[reef tundra]

Okay now let’s quickly pivot

If we mention it too much then people will mistake it for an invitation

[fleet zodiac]

Sup y’all

[rough basalt]

Like if you wanna kick a door down as a martial but the caster wants to blow it up with shatter, remind the caster that shatter is like a bomb going off, and that kicking a door down is not nearly as loud

[reef tundra]

Oki I might sleep now

[rough basalt]

Also shatter would break down the wall around it

[fossil hollow]

Just gave my fighter 533 THP

[reef tundra]

If anyone shows up complaining about martials, kick their a- for me /lhj

Yes

Goodnight y’all

[lost flicker]

Them choosing the fighter is their fault yeah but the fighter being weaker is absolutely the games fault.. the player who chose the class didn't design it

Caster isn't just a late game version of Martial, every class should be able to have it's cool and high power moments and it's unfortunately not just designed or harnessed that way and that can make it unfun for people who don't want to play casters but still wanna feel powerful you know?

It really depends on the party

[lost flicker]

Nighty night

[lost flicker]

It's a matter of locking a non caster behind having less power

[lavish flame]

Yeah but we see physical fighters in fiction do much more than "swing weapon X times"

[lost flicker]

Shatter is louder sure but if the selling point for Martials being on equal footing as casters is "they can do things more discreetly" then rogues would be the best class in the game and that's objectively not true

Waiting

[eager marsh]

i think the problem stems from a lot of people wanting the martial fantasy to be superhuman more than the mechanics truly permit outside of 'attack good' whereas caster fantasies are far easier to realize with spells that exist

There's not really a hulk jump for martials (Jump is a spell casters can use easier) theres no giant weapons for players as a rule for their use, there's no superstrength feats to perform against traps, etc

I disagree

[lost flicker]

Fighter, Barbarian, Ranger, Rogue, Monk, and Paladin do all get Extra Attack yes, Rogues can BA dash, disengage or hide, and Fighters get Action Surge as well as like an additional Extra Attack at super late levels

Both?

You could ask nicely

[eager marsh]

I think it's an entirely fair take to feel that martial classes feel too 'bland' compared to casters, especially when initiative isn't active.

[civic bramble]

Unironically, I feel like this is a Barbarian song. https://open.spotify.com/track/0nv47MncHwuhvDmUHSMHQu?si=j9eibTliRz2loaWTj8dqJA

[lost flicker]

A player wanting the fantasy imagination game to be able to work with their fantastical imagination is not a "player problem"

It's not asking at all, it's demanding

That's not innate to the mechanics of the game I don't think but casters can also do that

[civic bramble]

That’s the good part about having spells like Haste. You kind of get those types of fantasies.

[lost flicker]

We are, you could still be a little less rude

[eager marsh]

Ah but that's the problem! That's a caster ability not a martial ability. Everything that involves superhuman feats of physical empowerment that people can imagine that a 5e fighter cant do, a spellcaster does with a spell

[strong wave]

Fellas fellas fellas

[reef tundra]

I came back to get a glimpse

[strong wave]

Let's all simmah down naw

[reef tundra]

This is one issue I have with the debate, it always transcends into straight up arguing

[civic bramble]

Pinning this because I want someone’s opinion.

[lost flicker]

Casters have a lot of options to have what Martials have, but Martials don't have a lot of options to have what Casters have, and the few they do give them like.. half or even a third of the powdern

[lost flicker]

Sorry, it was mentioned in the presence of The Problem Causer™

[reef tundra]

Man I really hope the mods do my suggestion and make a thread for this debate. It would clean this chat up so much

[eager marsh]

A Monk can use a Focus Point and Step of the Wind to multiply their jump distance by 2 for a single turn. Which is calculated using their Strength (which has no value to their already MAD class) and therefore wont be very significant at all. A Spellcaster can cast the Jump spell and have the most effective 'hulk leap' feature for the next minute built into their movement

[civic bramble]

It has a lot to do with wanting to prove a point superior rather than just get another person’s perspective and test it to an extent.

[lost flicker]

Yar?

[lost flicker]

It's not about superiority it's about expressing what's objectively correct against someone making a boldly false claim

[uneven harness]

what are the odds of rolling 2 nat 1's with advantage twice in one session

[stuck shuttle]

(1/20)^4

[eager marsh]

I mean I'm not arguing I'm just pointing out examples of things a caster can just do better than a martial using spells to make a point

[lost flicker]

In this circumstance, that a player wanting to be a more fantastical warrior knight is a player issue, and that fighter being weak is also the players fault

[viral kraken]

1/160000

[craggy summit]

I believe rolling the same number with advantage/disadvantage is 1 in 400?

[uneven harness]

i rolled 2 nat 1's with advantage twice ;-;

[craggy summit]

So it's more than 400 if it's twice in a session 😅

[lost flicker]

1/400 × 2

[uneven harness]

yeah

[craggy summit]

DAMN 😭 dice jail

[uneven harness]

it was twice in the same session

[lost flicker]

Different rolls, same odds

[reef tundra]

But there’s also one piece of evidence I would like to bring up. Casters are kinda meant to cast those buffing spells… on the martials

[lost flicker]

It's two instances of 1/400 not 1/160000

[eager marsh]

That's unfortunately not a great argument when non buffing spells are often just a better use of limited concentration slots.

[raw grove]

I need some advice which is better being able to prepare additional spell or a +1 to ac?

[viral kraken]

the question isn't what are the odds of rolling a second one, it's what are the odds of rolling two, so you multiply

[reef tundra]

Who would benefit more from the haste spell? A spell that allows a second action that cannot be the magic action, and increases AC. The wizard who uses the magic action every turn at a distance? Or the barbarian who’s in melee range and takes the attack action every turn

[eager marsh]

Haste for example isnt actually that great of a spell when you can hypnotic pattern or slow the enemies instead of buffing 1 martial to get 1 extra attack

[fast latch]

Additional spell if you have high AC already, AC boost if you have low AC

[stuck shuttle]

The chance of rolling a 1 on a d20 is 1 in 20. Rolling with advantage means 2 rolls. If both are 1's the chance of rolling 2 1's in a row is (1/20)^2. The rolls are independent of each other so we can consider each roll of 1 to be separate. In other words, we're looking for the chance of rolling any given 4 nat 1's.

In other words, it is 1/160,000. Chrono is right

[craggy summit]

In my opinion, additional spells. If you're a spellcaster, you shouldn't be getting hit THAT often 🤔 and more spells is more valuable than just a +1 to AC. In my humble opinion

[strong wave]

So 2/400 got it

[eager marsh]

Bladesinger laughs

[civic bramble]

I mean, spellcasters are more likely to either get their resources strained thin if they get attacked directly. But then DMs don’t do that a lot because then some players would accuse them of targeting. Which, at least in terms of creatures that don’t have a high INT stat, makes sense. But sentient species? Why would they not know what magic looks like? Would they not have the sense to reason that the person casting all the big powerful spells is the one to be attacked since they have the greatest threat? Then your marital classes become defenders.

[lost flicker]

Except buffing spells are only a specific school of spell, while there are by default a multitude of others and a multitude of other niches painted by the wizard subclasses- same way a cleric isn't innately supposed to be a healer

This also means that for a fighter to have even close to similar power as a caster you.. need to have a caster in the party

[reef tundra]

I sure hope there’s a caster in the party

[storm magnet]

I almost blew up a town

[eager marsh]

I strongly dislike the argument a martial needs to be given direct buff spells by a caster because that was the mentality that resulted in so many 2014 creatures being resistant to nonmagical melee weapons because they expected the caster to waste their concentration on Magic Weapon of all things (assuming they even took it) to fix the martial rather than using a different spell to clear the fight instead

[storm magnet]

I dropped a neckless of fireballs into a big pond trying to clean it

[reef tundra]

But anyway I just wanted to throw something in there I genuinely cannot be convinced that the “divide” exists in casual tables with at an least decent DM and players

[lost flicker]

That's how combat would function within the rules of the game yeah

I just think that a fighter wanting to be a great valiant warrior shouldn't have to then focus on the caster even more

[reef tundra]

Anyway I sleep now I just wanted to be annoying

Gn fr

[viral kraken]

you run into a real "no true scotsman" problem qualifying it that way tho

[cobalt owl]

I have a unique problem

I love getting art of NPCs and characters and PCs i have, and i love showing it, but ive recently been getting a lot of art for characters that are kinda spoilers for campaign stuff

[strong wave]

I'm the true Scotsman so that can't be

[lost flicker]

Casters are fragile, but they hit hard, Martials are tankier, but they're weaker, this is kinda framed as being fair but realistically at the table unless your player is going for a tank build sitting there and rolling 4d6 + 10 each turn instead of 8d6 for fireball in a turn is just- less fun for a lot of people

[lost flicker]

A real like, emotional divide? No absolutely not, but a mechanical divide is still there in terms of just raw power

Especially when you remember that casters too often get what Martials get in full swing but Martials rarely get what casters get and when they do it's at half to a third of the powrr

[empty thicket]

kinda, martials dont have too much AOE attacks

but they compensate that with many other things

[cinder timber]

Hello peoples

[feral fulcrum]

Because Martials lack alot of easy options to engage with the game outside of combat, especially 2014 wise. Yes I know I'm late to this question.

[empty thicket]

Versatility (Fighter)
Tankines( Barb)
Monk (Monk)
Utility and burst damage (Rogue)

[cinder timber]

Has 24 improved on that?

[empty thicket]

yep

[lost flicker]

Did you know the AoE attacks are meant to be calculated average damage wise as though they hit a minimum of two characters? Meaning at level 5 a fighter is doing 24 avg damage a round while a wizard is averaging closer to 42

It's objectively not

[empty thicket]

interesting

[feral fulcrum]

To a point, yes. They're still not quite as good as casters in this regard, but Fighter is no longer an absolutel struggle to do ANYTHING meaningful outside of combat.

[stuck shuttle]

Casters can do that too. Could you name a specific example of something powerful a martial can do that a caster cannot?

[cinder timber]

I see, fair enough.

[stuck shuttle]

They have multiple spells that can cover that

[feral fulcrum]

Longstrider, Ashardalon's Stride, Teleports.

[empty thicket]

Misty step, levitate, teleport

but that is the thing, a caster is good while they have spells

[feral fulcrum]

Movement is a hilariously masive part of a caster's toolkit.

[stuck shuttle]

And? Many of these spells last a significant duration

[lost flicker]

As a caster you can also do that, using spells like spiderclimb, or jump, or just plain using your stats if that's how you want to orient them, in fact casters are actually better at climbing because a martial would require the wall be atleast somewhat slanted or have foot holds while the caster can just drop a spell

[empty thicket]

They have their biggest potential while having a resource
While a martial can still work without all their resources

[stuck shuttle]

Most of such spells can be precasted or enscribed in a scroll anyways

How so?

[lost flicker]

What does this even mean

[empty thicket]

A figther can still hit hard without action surge
A barbarian still have one fhte biggest HP pools and can tank without the rage
Monk is Monk
Rogue can still do lots of damage and utility in battle

[stuck shuttle]

A martial doing that is equally at risk

[feral fulcrum]

Let's put it this Way, Martials can do Small List of things Consistently, all day, until exhaustion kils them. While Casters can Takes a deep breath and talks for hours and hours and hours on the near bottomless well of options

[stuck shuttle]

In fact, more so because they have little to no escape options

The "squishy caster" fallacy is actually a common one

[empty thicket]

Yep

[stuck shuttle]

What AoE option does each martial have?

[empty thicket]

I dont like the Caster Vs Martials Vs Hybrids because i think each one should be talked inside of their bubbles

[stuck shuttle]

That beats just teleporting out?

[lost flicker]

Again, just being able to live a little longer (ignoring that casters can heal and take spells to raise their AC or HP) to do the same thing (that is still less than what the casters get to do) is not a flex

[stuck shuttle]

So you're making claims without evidence?

[empty thicket]

Figther can split their attacks against 4 different enemies
Some cleave weapons
That it is.

[feral fulcrum]

Cleave and Grenades mostly, barring subclasses that provide AOE options like Purple Dragon Knight via their Dragon.

[stuck shuttle]

Thank you for providing some options

[feral fulcrum]

But grenades are not all that common

[lost flicker]

Technically if you're a martial that gets weapon masteries and you take mastery in a greataxe or halberd you can use cleave with one to attack TWO creatures in a turn assuming they're both in range and within 5 feet of each other and that both rolls hit

[stuck shuttle]

This is not rules as written unless you have a specific option

[lost flicker]

What about this has anything to do with what I just mentioned? And yeah that's not rules as written

[empty thicket]

molotovs can be made

[lost flicker]

That's still not rules as written

[stuck shuttle]

Again, not rules as wriutten

[empty thicket]

Bottle, oil, cloth and that it is

but that is something that ANYONE can use

[stuck shuttle]

If your point is "well you could just homebrew a customization outside the rules" then that works against your point

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah but the crafting rules (At least 2014, haven't looked at 5.5's) are doodoo and that still probably takes like, what, a full day to craft?

[lost flicker]

there's a difference between just customization and homebrew, you're making a point on the rules of the game and trying to defend it by saying you could just homebrew outside the rules of the game

[empty thicket]

yeah, that is the spiffy part but meh, some "house rules" kinda fix it, lowering the time of it

[stuck shuttle]

Don't move the goal posts

[viral kraken]

crafting is more fleshed out in 5.5 thankfully than it was in 5

[lost flicker]

Not every, and that's not the point

No, you're actively moving the goalpost

[stuck shuttle]

Alright if you're not going to engage in good faith, I think this matter is done with trolling

[empty thicket]

Not so much, i wanted to make an adamantine javelin
I made a hook for moving out of position enemies
etc. etc.

The thing is, there is limits, like any class

That is why i think Martials Vs casters is pointless

A wizard can flat a mountain while a fighter can land 8 hits into an enemy and obliterate it with such ease

Both are totally okey

jejejeje

In any way, remember to make your characters funs to play and fit the thematic above everything

Dont do a T800 that traveled in time to kill Strahd before he had born

[lost flicker]

my phone died i'm back though

are we still on this

[viral kraken]

right, be the t1000 instead, i completely understand the point you are making!

[feral fulcrum]

Direct Combat wise (Damage, to be specific) A properly equipped Fighter can match or exceed a Caster, and for longer. Control wise, lol, never, not without using enspelled weapons to Cast control spells too. Fluff wise...A Martial isn't not going to be able match a Wizard's abilities, because they're geared to different fantasies. Captain Swordsalot is about Peak Melee (Or Archery) and Combat, a Wizard is about (eventaully) Snapping reality in half over their knee.

[empty thicket]

kinda, the thing died out really fast

[cinder timber]

A lil timecop action!

[empty thicket]

that was the metal liquid?

[lost flicker]

I guess it's only been like 8 minutes thats fair, i'm on my PC- I had a message typed up when it died though i'll send it later maybe if I can get my phone charged quick enough

[viral kraken]

i am actually using magitech liquidmetal guys as enemies in my campaign, i just use Troll statblocks tho since there are several variations

[empty thicket]

yep, i think any class can work and its what matter, each one in their own line of work//fantasy

[feral fulcrum]

Mmm, Silver Tear Mimics, my beloved Elden Ring Enemies/Summon

[cinder timber]

What are some campaign ideas that dont revolve around cults and demons as bbegs?

[empty thicket]

now im kinda thinking of some terminator thing

[fossil hollow]

a lot

[feral fulcrum]

Politics, Search for the Macguffin, Delicious In Dungeon

[cinder timber]

I was thinking something about weather and a dragon. But, I think that is plot of dosi, no?

[cinder timber]

Macguffin hunting is every campaign

[feral fulcrum]

There's an endless wealth of variously workable concepts that's been tried.

[cinder timber]

Yeah, no point tryna be original

[empty thicket]

Save a place from some natural disaster, like the pompeya.
Fight against some big creature, call it a mountain golem or something like that. Or a Tarrasque with steroids and magic like principal danger.
Try to protect a kingdom against a general that despise it because that own kingdom betrayed him and his soldiers.

[fossil hollow]

Dragons controlling the climate around their home is like, a thing already

[cinder timber]

Oh, im stupid

[empty thicket]

I have tooooons of ideas and can build up a ton more

[lost flicker]

Waterdeep Dragonheist, Wild Beyond the Witch Light, Tomb of Annihilation, Ghost's of Saltmarsh, Tales from the Yawning Portal- there's quite a few campaign books centered around other things

[empty thicket]

Even some silly ones like a party that is the cleaning party of dungeons, who clean dungeons of monsters, invasive plants and other stuff for sell them later

[feral fulcrum]

Personally I think cults belong in nearly every D&D story

[lost flicker]

you can run a campaign around Jurassic Park lmao

[lost flicker]

fair enough, this person specifically is asking about non-cult or fiendish campaign ideas though

[feral fulcrum]

I think Bigby's even brought that up

As a potential plot idea for DMs

[fossil hollow]

yeap

[lost flicker]

I had the thought recently

I think Bigby's is one of the- oh wait no I just picked up that book nvm I forgot

[fossil hollow]

Even gave us 3 elemental dino statblocks, titanotaurs

oh sorry, titanotheres

[lost flicker]

there's the giant dino's in it yeah

[fossil hollow]

and also giant lion, ox, goose

[feral fulcrum]

Monstrosities, rather

[lost flicker]

I thought it was 4?

[fossil hollow]

Pterosaurs arent dinos

[lost flicker]

ooookay

whateverrrr 🙄 /lh

[severe rampart]

It's got saur in the name, it must be a dinosaur /j

[feral fulcrum]

While the Dino's are elemental themed, they were typed as Monstrosities

Because uh, mutants?

Just big weird dinos empowered by elemental giant nonsense

[fossil hollow]

yeap. It doesnt even deliver for the regisaur though

[lost flicker]

well Giants and Dragons are more often than not elemental themed and they're still considered Giants and Dragons

[fossil hollow]

Like, nothing about the regisaur screams trex imbued with elemental energy

[lost flicker]

being attuned to elemental magics doesn't make you an elemental you know? it's about being one with that elemental, embodying it entirely

Technically we're all elementals of ourselves

[vast saddle]

Man, I had no idea that Great Weapon Master + Polearm Master combination in my turn is really deadly

[lost flicker]

just wait till you hear about Sentinel I say as they take me into the back room to get shot

[rugged verge]

a classic combo

[vast saddle]

2 more levels and I'll take Sentinel too

Tbh, sometimes feats worth more than ASI

[rugged verge]

PAM adds so much more damage on average but also if you play a 2014 paladin that's an extra smite

[lost flicker]

Potentially another get shot in the back room take but I really like giving my players both Feat and ASI

it boosts them hyper but it makes them more powerful and they seem to really enjoy it

[rugged verge]

I think if you make the game itself harder there's not a problem

[limber trail]

I don't even necessarily think an ASI makes the game meaningfully harder for most stats

most stats are tertiary progression in that usually some extra things a character can do get better

only 1-2 stats are gonna directly buff up a player too much

I will say I do generally prefer feat rewards if done at all to be feats without the ability score bonus, it's just fun to get exta things you can do

[woven flint]

Purgatory.

[olive storm]

I used to be a pathfinder elitist but BG3 has made me really miss D&D.

[vast saddle]

Speaking of Feat, throwing your enemy to a cliff by Telekinetic Shove feels so good

[civic bramble]

Question: If a Barbarian ever got into romance, how would you play it off?

I guess more of an aloof personality?

[severe rampart]

Context, Chemistry, and Childhood Best Friends

[spark maple]

How would yall do a campaign of large scale modern/current day warfare? I think having players do country/military leaders is what I want, but what opinions do you have?

[severe rampart]

While the PCs are fighting the larger fight is happening in the background

[civic bramble]

Are you asking for all of these things or are they components?

[severe rampart]

Both

[glossy otter]

perhaps the choices they make lead to the long term consequences in world

[empty thicket]

Depend of mostly yourself

I would play it like i respect strong people and love someone that treat me nicely and pamper me with nice food

Aka, the lady can kill a hog with her bare hands, cook it and serve it well for me

[severe rampart]

Indeed

[empty thicket]

Or more than just a hog, but you all get hte idea

[severe rampart]

However that is one of many options

[empty thicket]

if not, someone that pierce into the weakspot of the barbarian, someone that instead of fueling his chaotic mind, give it some refuge. Peace

[civic bramble]

Well, he’s an Aasimar. Scourge Aasimar. He had his wings ripped off by an evil mage and that’s how he became one. He was a bit naïve, but now is kind of jaded and rough around the edges, but he can’t really put up a good “tough guy” act due to not really knowing how to do that. In truth, he kind of wants to fall in love, but he has been through a lot of pain and that leads to a fight between his desires and his “rationale”.

[olive storm]

Tanya the Evil.

[severe rampart]

Well, probably a caring woman, one that'll treat his battle scars gently and one who wants him to quit adventuring and settle some time in the future to avoid further trouble

[empty thicket]

I would do some WW2 kind of war and that it is

"You are one of the soldiers sent to do missions in this enemy territory, enemies are (This faction i wont mention because i dont want to risk but you all get the idea) and you must slowly burn them donw"

[olive storm]

So WW1 & WW2 were often characterized as an engine that consumed bodies as a resource. I would lean into the themes of dehumanization and the use of bodies and magic.

[empty thicket]

and i chose that one specific because is easier to turn them into enemies because That Faction was giga evil.

[olive storm]

Like undead ground infantry, flesh magic to make monsters from deserters, humans infected with lycanthropy, ruining their lives, to better serve the war effort.

[glossy otter]

are we just hinting at the imperium of man jkjk

[zenith osprey]

Can ur spellbook technically be a MacBook

[civic bramble]

Do you think it would be cute if he met a Cleric? He’s a Zealot barbarian.

[glossy otter]

if your dnd campaign allows for the modern world maybe. Though that does often stem into ask your DM as normally spellbooks require ink

[empty thicket]

yeah, it can be many things

I want to make a wizard that he tattoo some giga useful spells or emergency spells on him

[glossy otter]

I find a lot of that flavour text does stem from the setting the dm makes

[severe rampart]

Sure why not

[glossy otter]

Dang, the literal healer he meets jkjk

[civic bramble]

I mean, it’s kind of cute.

[glossy otter]

I mean yeah, it fits

[civic bramble]

“Sit down, big guy, let me take care of you for once, okay?”

[night dagger]

Anyone know how to make a character sheet

[normal junco]

depends on the game and the method

[fossil hollow]

check out #dnd-newcomers

[ocean spear]

Um can anyone tell me how to gain the “find a dm” channel?

[empty thicket]

"Oh, my husband died again!? ugh... okey, SON BRING ONE OF THE DIAMONDS"
Dada died again?
"Yes"

[glossy otter]

Man it's been a long time since they've used that art here

[civic bramble]

“Oh c’mon, it was only a scratch!”

“A SCRATCH?! YOU HAD YOU ARM BISECTED!”

[ocean spear]

Thats the thing, I can’t find it

[fossil hollow]

see the second sticker

[ocean spear]

Yeah that’s what I clicked

Nvm I got it

Ty

[fossil hollow]

Oh its probably because theres no "Finding a DM" channel

You want #looking-for-dm

[glossy otter]

Oh yeah, with what tomorrow is, I might throw something funny for my strixhaven class

[fossil hollow]

Mage Hunters

[ocean spear]

Okay next question, how do I create a ad?..

[fossil hollow]

instructions are in #find-a-game

[ocean spear]

Ty

[fast latch]

What kind of thing? I like Strixhaven

[feral fulcrum]

Psychic Goblin as Yoda?

[glossy otter]

Already did them, they were in an Oriq dungeon secretly hiding a phyrexian

[fossil hollow]

Wait. Dont tell me youre doing Reality Fracture stuff

[glossy otter]

maybe, that or they have to fight a sith

[glossy otter]

tempted but no, it's pre-phyrexia

[fossil hollow]

oh right, may the 4th

[fossil hollow]

isnt Jace's new timeline teeeechnically pre Phyrexia? /hj

[glossy otter]

XDXD, though my players and I did joke about the concept of Hexhaven

[feral fulcrum]

Hmm, multi armed Construct with Sunblades and Spider Climb. "General Kenobi!"

[glossy otter]

I am curious if it'll get an expansion in dnd

Just get a spell called Stinging barb that doesn't give advantage but deals damage

[mighty wharf]

Grievous isn't a sith

[feral fulcrum]

I'm aware, I was giving suggestion for other, star wars related encounters.

[night dagger]

Anyone know servers to find a party accept d&d official and this one

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[junior spade]

Would someone help me in DMS w making a build inspired by a char to PvP my friends gulp

[stuck shuttle]

A good topic for #character-discussion , but in general PvP comes down to who goes first

[paper portal]

Yeah D&D is very much not designed for pvp

[empty thicket]

Depend mostly

[paper portal]

On?

[empty thicket]

the scenario, if its some sort of "forced pvp" kinda

i had to fight my allies like a pair of times already

last session i had 2 of them killed, 1 for accident// defense and another in self defense

[glossy otter]

Honestly pvp can be fun but it'd need some stuff. I've had it happen before/planned it but it'd need to be discussed amongst players

[paper portal]

The issue with pvp is that like star said it always ends up boiling down to whoever wins initative

The game just really isn't designed with it in mind at all

[empty thicket]

Welp, yeah.
In the end shooting first is always important

Its a duel // Draw, but another thing is if your shoot is strong enough to kill.
If it isnt and the opponent is... welp.

Another one bite the dust

[glossy otter]

ironically most times I've had a pvp, someone became some kind of eldritch horror/it was planned

[empty thicket]

mines were...
An ally (blood hunter lycan) went frenzy and i had the paladin downed close to me with 2 cultist hosting him.
If i leave the place and let him not attack me, the paladin die.
If i fought back and took him down the paladin at least would be less dead.
Fought back and accidentally... killed him the ally

After that carrying the dead body another ally, an hipo tried to steal all his stuff and i said no. He attacked me and i killed him without griefing his death

[glossy otter]

One I think was a player turned into the cosmic horror (spelljammer) by touching an orb originally meant for the one shot bbeg, the second was a planned corruption in which a character would keep mutating until they became an accurate angel styled abomination

[empty thicket]

oh nice

i got another where my paladin got cursed and a demon took control of him for some time

i grappled him and knocked him out easily

[glossy otter]

Ironically all the bard needed to get possessed was just a heart to heart with his psychotic brother's essence

who knew whats needed to possess someone is just a little gaslighting

[empty thicket]

or a handshake

[vast saddle]

But his master is...and also a former Jedi

[fossil hollow]

Doesnt mean he is one

[empty thicket]

grievous was and will never be a jedi
But he is one of the finnest jedi hunters in the galaxy

[scenic zinc]

Grievous was a bloodthirsty warlord

[empty thicket]

at first a victim, because the empire arrived on his planet and he made a deal of work for them so they leave his planet not so bad
After some time he got used to that violence and welp, turned into what he was

[normal junco]

made more impressive that he does not have use of the Force.

[empty thicket]

he was trained by one of the best duelist and learned tactics to destroy the force users
But if you choke him in the air like vader would do it, he can only try to throw a lightsaber or smt like that

but would be dead in seconds

[granite hawk]

I'm having trouble understanding can you explain all this as if I were 3? 👶

[peak pecan]

it was the Republic; Empire wasnt around yet

[scenic zinc]

#non-dnd-topics

[empty thicket]

Grevious attacked by bad guys
Grevious did a deal, he help the bad guys and they dont attack family of him
Him work for them, he get turned bad
Dies later

for making a grevious character one would need a 4 arms race

there was this insect one, that would fit and him using a Rappier mostly, close to a lightsaber

High dext, low STR, High cha for intimidation

Shawbuckler duelist would be

if not, fighter battlemaster

always going for martials so there is no "magic" (force) on him

[normal junco]

why not monk?

[empty thicket]

he use weapons mostly, part of his deal

Closest thing to them is Rappiers and longswords, those are martials

[fossil hollow]

i dont think Grevious would be a rogue

[normal junco]

true, but much of his attacks are very close ranged and very fast.

[fossil hollow]

Fighter

[normal junco]

the only rogue thing i think he might have is the second story feature

[fossil hollow]

You can get climbing speeds through other means

[normal junco]

true

[fossil hollow]

Honestly, he can also be a ranger

Hunter Ranger

[empty thicket]

directly one wont think of rogue, but after seeing how he can sneak, move, fight dirty and more.
Advantage on his attacks and more stuff

[fossil hollow]

Fighter can do them too

[stoic pewter]

Thri-Kreen?

[fossil hollow]

Battlemaster can do a lot of movement, Ambush is an option

[normal junco]

#character-discussion might have a lot more insight into how to translate stuff into D&D. personally, i think Grievous would have as much mageslayer stuff as he could fit onto his character sheet.

[empty thicket]

yeah, those

[paper portal]

Grievous canonically fights using fear as a weapon to slow down his opponents and stop them from using the force so maybe something with fear abilities

[fossil hollow]

-# (Conquest Paladin)

[paper portal]

That'd work yeah

[stoic pewter]

Exactly what I thought

[paper portal]

Nah grievous is famously very weak to the force he just never gives anyone the opportunity to use it on him

[empty thicket]

yep, its why i said swashbuckler, he have Panache feature and that let him do a charisma check and give disadvantage to the enemy

[empty thicket]

few did it and destroyed him

one did and leave him with a constant cough

[woven flint]

The way Grevious fights doesn't feel Rogue-ish.

He'd definetly not be a Rogue as his style is about physically oppressing and overwhelming

He's aggressive and doesn't give breathing room

[stoic pewter]

100000% Conquest Paladin

[woven flint]

Or..
A Barbarian

Don't get me wrong
The way he fights is indeed skillful, but lets be honest
...
Hes throwing shit out and hoping it works

[stoic pewter]

Doesn't mean a Paladin can't do the same. All just depends on how you play.

[woven flint]

Uh huh.
But Barbarians entire thing as a class is about.. attacking recklessly and relentlessly

[stoic pewter]

True true. Maybe multi-class if one wants to. PaliBarian lol.

[fossil hollow]

ehhh

[woven flint]

Thatd be a poor multiclass tbh

I'll say Conquest Paladin definetly fits him more

Though, if i may offer ...

Zealot Barbarian

[peak pecan]

He's a Warforged Berserker Barbarian. Nuff said

[errant crag]

If my friend gets his Spelljammer game off the ground again I may play a Thrikeen since I'm such a fan of TWF and Duel Wielder

[peak pecan]

Berserker Barbarian lets him do this at high levels, and it makes him immune to Charmed and Frightened from other creatures

[stoic pewter]

I did that once for a Warforged Paladin. Mainly to play similarly to The Iron Giant. 🤣

Sadly we didn't get too far in the campaign. Hiatus indefinitely and we only went up to lvl 6.

[cobalt owl]

At least your Iron Giant got to aura farm

I've still got my half "elemental" Paladin on the backlog, but I'm getting a lot of cool art for her!

[stoic pewter]

He had the Charger feat and would have steam ejecting from his chest when raging

[cobalt owl]

Call him a locomotive

[fossil hollow]

choo choo m-

[empty thicket]

i might steal this for flavor a barbarian i might do someday

But in some way i find Barbarian even simpler than fighter so, idk

[umbral girder]

Honestly Barbarian MonoClass fits Grievous so much more

[paper portal]

Yeah exactly

[molten glade]

Are there any vtts that low end computers can run

I've tried to use roll20 but it just can't, even at the lowest settings

I have to use my phone for everything, and even then it barely works

[peak pecan]

the D&D Beyond VTT runs pretty good on my junker laptop

[umbral girder]

Could try dnd beyond’s maps

[tame estuary]

on the phone?

[peak pecan]

One of my players got it to work on her iPad

[molten glade]

I just remembered I had turned something off on my browser on computer which lowers performance if it's off

[tame estuary]

nah roll 20 is just like that sometimes

[molten glade]

Well it's too late now, I'm already kicked out of the campaign I was in

[prisma prairie]

why

[molten glade]

Cause my phone kept kicking me out of the discord call

And it was slowing things down

[upper seal]

Guys

Am I able to find ppl here that I can play with?

[molten glade]

#find-a-game Read it

[upper seal]

Ty

[tame estuary]

why?

[prisma prairie]

That was more a technically issue than a full proper reason to actually kick you from a campaign

[lavish flame]

Owlbear Rodeo to the rescue!

[prisma prairie]

Removing a player cause "oh no issue happened" is kinda a trashy move

[tame estuary]

is it just a certainty that you're going to go in and out of discord?

[molten glade]

Is it less resource intsneive than roll20

[molten glade]

Yes it is

[lavish flame]

Owlbear Rodeo is a website that is almost exclusively a map, dice, and tokens. It does not host character sheets, nor do any math. Its super barebones, which is why people like it.

Yes, its way less resource intesmnsive than R20.

[tame estuary]

maybe you'll need to find a different thing? a pbp perhaps?

this is kind of beyond your ability to fix the problem I'm assuming

putting all that on yourself would strain

[molten glade]

It's fine, I was just slowing them down

They have a post up anyway

Seems like owlbear is more popular here than r20

[tame estuary]

owlbear is bare bones

it's only slightly more convenient than pointing your camera and streaming the map

[lavish flame]

I think its very common for "pick-up" games (used like pick-up basketball) due to how little resources it demands.

It might even run on mobile but dont quote me

[tame estuary]

works on mobile half the time

[molten glade]

I could probably use r20 for sheets

[lavish flame]

If you're gonna use R20 for the sheets, just use Demiplane. Demiplane is a character-sheet hosting website that R20 recently bought or partnered with (idk). They work together, but Demiplane can be JUST the sheet. Roll20 will always load in the battlemap.

[molten glade]

Perhaps

[tame estuary]

the slowest part about roll20 for me is the sheets

[molten glade]

But you know what the worst part is

I've used r20 before on another ttrpg and it worked fine

Two other ttrpgs actually

[sour cave]

Man I really wish there was a ranged weapon for high str characters. Like a hilariously big Bow or just wielding a cannon around. Woulda be so cool

[tame estuary]

just throw your weapons lol

[sour cave]

D4 damage 🙁

[tame estuary]

it's called a trident

[lavish flame]

This is gonna be Weapons with the Thrown property, like Light Hammers and Hand Axes

[sour cave]

D8 damage 🙁

[lavish flame]

thats a longsword I dont see the concern

[sour cave]

No aura too it

Gotta be cool to be a martial

[tame estuary]

you make the weapon

my brother you make the sandwich

[sour cave]

All my ingredients are bland

[lavish flame]

no aura in throwing weapons? Batarangs.

[sour cave]

(And giant subclass for barbarian hasn’t come to 2024 yet)

[tame estuary]

I bring a "talk to the DM about it" to a "I wish this was a thing" conversation smh

I for one think it would be funny to bring a cannon everywhere you go

[sour cave]

I dunno I always kinda thought ninja stars and throwing knives were silly

I wanna hit someone with an arrow the size of a Kia soul

[tame estuary]

you can always flavor a spear hun

[woven flint]

Thats
Indeed a fantasy

[prisma prairie]

We love fantasy

[lavish flame]

spear-throwing is absurdly cool too. you can be a harpoon gun

[sour cave]

I saw that one scene from ds1 where a blind giant snipes a dragon out of the air with a bow and I’ve been chasing that high ever since

[woven flint]

True Aura is using your fist

[lavish flame]

Gough my beloved

[tame estuary]

like goku

[vernal owl]

Im so excited

[sour cave]

I need unarmed barbarian subclass so much you have no idea

[vernal owl]

Im getting lost mines of phandelver on roll20 and i can finally run my first ever dnd game

[woven flint]

Actually, hes not blind
He has mud packed into his helmets visor and THINKS he's blind, apparently

[upper seal]

True aura is using your shield to bash heads in

[lavish flame]

Beast isn't far

[sour cave]

I played a cool beast once

[lavish flame]

Yup, the townspeople of Oolacile hated him so much they obscured his mask and convinced him he went blind.

[woven flint]

He's baby...
He didn't deserve that

[sour cave]

Made a firbolg with a living iron wood tree on him that quickly covered and uncovered his body to create the beast attributes

[upper seal]

Uh this is kinda dnd related is making a character based off the shield hero common?

[woven flint]

Not really

[tame estuary]

based off his abilities?

or his personality?

[upper seal]

Both I just wanna know if I’m basic or not

[sour cave]

You have 2 hands, either both hold one weapon or both hold a weapon

I actually don’t think I’ve ever used a shield in dnd

Aside from the magic one you don’t have to actually wield which was neat

[woven flint]

Basing characters off of anime characters is, admittedly, a bit basic in this community

[umbral girder]

Is “making another anime character” on today’s bingo board?

[woven flint]

Yup

[tame estuary]

... you made bingos without me?

[sour cave]

My first dnd game a dude made a wood elf ranger named Legolas

[woven flint]

Mentioning the Bingo is always on the Bingo

[umbral girder]

What we need is a construct who uses She/Her pronouns made of Legos

A Lego Lass if you will

[sour cave]

Dude lasted 2 games before he was asked to leave by the dm after he freaked out at the dm because he jumped onto a roof and got mad he couldn’t shoot people below the roof he was on.

Fun times

[tame estuary]

for his abilities, I don't recommend trying to copy what he does because he's not really based off what a ttrpg character do. you'll feel like you need to resort to doing a lot of homebrew if you haven't been playing for a long time

the more you understand what characters can be made using the system tho, you can replicate the shield hero somewhat with limitations that you yourself set

[upper seal]

I gave him a shield that has the ability to either hit like a mace, shoot bullets like a gun, or protect(yk like a regular shield)

[tame estuary]

that's homebrew

[upper seal]

Yeah

It was fun

[lavish flame]

Making a D&D character based off of an already existing character happens all the time. I've never personally seen it with The Shield Hero, but I've seen it a few times. I played with Ganondorf, Bayonetta, and Kamen Rider in my time playing.

[upper seal]

KAMEN RIDER?

[tame estuary]

it's fine to be basic anyhow

[lavish flame]

Yeah, I hated it.

I also hated Bayonetta and Ganondorf tbf

[tame estuary]

as long as you're not really making other people suffer for your character choice

[woven flint]

Its fine to be basic
But also dont be an anime character
Be a character of your own thoughts and design, thatd be fun :]

[sour cave]

Gonna make my next dnd character based off the legendary luchador Juan Aguacate

[lavish flame]

Yeah, go ahead. Most will probably not know

[woven flint]

It gives people more to work with and its easier to be taken seriously

[flint ledge]

I mean personally I'd typically say taking inspiration from an anime character is typically way better than a 1:1 copy

[upper seal]

Does my chr seem like it would be boring? It’s a tankish guy who has no magic in any way but yk has his 3 shields and a RAGING hatred for goblins

Or like ruining others fun

[tame estuary]

I have my own opinions about homebrew abilities

[peak pecan]

Can’t benefit from three shields

[woven flint]

You'll find that, eventually, not having magic items is definitely rough.
Especially on a martial

[tame estuary]

as long as everyone at your table is aving fun, don't pay attention to what I have to say about it

[sour cave]

Only homebrew I’ve ever used was a buffed banneret fighter which was pretty baller ngl

[upper seal]

Uh they’re all one shield if that makes sense? But I can only use either the bullet shield or mace shield once a turn

Like imagine having a weapon that transforms

[tame estuary]

by RAW it takes like a round to swap out shields

[upper seal]

It does lol

[sour cave]

Gave you one busted ability at lvl 10 that makes it so any creature within 60 feet of you can understand your words which was wild

John charisma

[upper seal]

I made my goblin have like a personal hatred for goblins like they stole his blanket when he was one

[umbral girder]

Unless fighter.

It takes 1 Action to swap a shield

[upper seal]

It is a fighter

[umbral girder]

It would be a waste but you could do an action surge.

[tame estuary]

I'm rusty as heck

[sour cave]

Party is gonna jump you if you use an action surge to switch shields

[tame estuary]

naelen can you give me a rundown before we start later?

[lavish flame]

I've got a homebrew 2024 Astral Monk that has some new abilities. I found it a great excuse to bring back the high level Monk feature "Cast Astral Projection"

[tame estuary]

I don't even know if I roll stats lol

[upper seal]

I cant the dm made it a rule that I can only use a certain shield per turn even with action surge

[lavish flame]

evem with action surge is wild

[upper seal]

Except they never specifically stated this

I COULD ACTION SURGE AND USE MULTIPLE!

[lavish flame]

"let me use my unique 1/day resource to switch shields an extra time"
"no"
feels like a bizarre restriction

[umbral girder]

Its not 1/day

[woven flint]

Its once per short rest

[lavish flame]

whatever dawg

[upper seal]

They’re a first time dm

[lavish flame]

does the point not still stand

[tame estuary]

they're doing pretty well I must say

[upper seal]

Kinda

[flint ledge]

Fighter would be kinda homeless if it was 1/day

[upper seal]

I agree they’re peak

[woven flint]

My fighter is kinda homeless...

[sour cave]

Me when I forget to action surge

[upper seal]

What does action surge do?

[sour cave]

(I’m saving it for when I need it!)

[sour cave]

Surges your actions

Attacking 2 times a turn

[upper seal]

So I can do multiple in one turn?

[sour cave]

No

Well, only one action surge a turn

[umbral girder]

Gives you 1 additional action. Once you do so you cannot do so again until a short or long rest

At very high levels you can get 2 of them but cannot do both on the same turn.

[upper seal]

Wait no they said I could switch per turn without using an action

[sour cave]

What will you do when the enemy just hits you with disarm and takes your shield away?

Or just grabs your other shields?

Archers fear the goblin that just steals their whole quiver, they never expect it

[upper seal]

The shield teleports

A fun little part of it, it teleports back to the user

[sour cave]

I’m taking away your homebrew privileges

[flint ledge]

Can't you put away/pull out weapons with each attack in 2024? Does that apply to shields actually?

[tame estuary]

I played a homebrew class from a third party or somethign like that once

they got the teleporting ability at like level 11 I believe

[upper seal]

It’s only a shield

[woven flint]

The only homebrew ive played is Pugilist

[sour cave]

Teleporting shield that shoots bullets

[limber trail]

This feels like you're springing some hefty homebrew mechanics on a newer DM which I broadly will say isn't a good idea. For this DM's first campaign stick to RAW, and I'd have this conversation for a potential second campaign or with a more experienced DM.

[flint ledge]

Totally a limited amount per day righttt

[tame estuary]

nope, you can just always do it lol

the class isn't that great honestly

[flint ledge]

Cause no one would actually print an at will teleport in a book right...

[sour cave]

They have, the Ranger subclass

[tame estuary]

schedules didn't line up and I can't really be in the game more before I can abuse that feature

[sour cave]

It’s not crazy strong but man it’s so cool

[tame estuary]

used it to climb on a wall and that's it

[woven flint]

At-will teleport to punch you in the teeth 🧐
-Shadow Monks

[limber trail]

There's a few.

As far as what this item does - it does have prescedent in returning weapons.
At will teleports do exist as the epic boon of dimensional travel

[umbral girder]

There is even a fighter subclass too

[tame estuary]

how far are you guys in that game anyways tokii?

[sour cave]

Horizon walker

[woven flint]

What game?

[limber trail]

Shadow monks too yeah

[upper seal]

I asked them before making anything and I made sure they were fine with what the shields did. they literally made the idea for the bullets, and helped with the other two

[woven flint]

Me when I'm im 8 games 😔

[tame estuary]

DM is also eager to homebrew it seems, as long as everyone's having fun it's fiiiiine probably

later problem is later you's problem

[flint ledge]

Well the boon requires the attack action to be taken first so it's not exactly at will

[tame estuary]

the one where my character marries strahd

[woven flint]

Your character didnt marry Strahd, bozo smh

[flint ledge]

So you hate your character or why did you do that to them?

[upper seal]

They wanted practice and the shields seemed easy I guess

[woven flint]

Sovis is being tempted by Kas to join the based side

Aka, the Kill Vecna and my Opps side

[tame estuary]

eh figures

[upper seal]

The shields kinda have boring names but they’re still fun

[upper seal]

Kill Vecna? Whats uh that?

[woven flint]

Vecna is a famous Archlich in D&D

[tame estuary]

she's pretty much immunue from all of his ablities due to the homebrew, so I made a joke about her being the only person in the multiverse that can give him consent

[woven flint]

Rae...
Thats weird >->

[umbral girder]

Vecna is a Lich god in D&D named after Jack Vance, the author of D&D’s magic system is based on

[tame estuary]

ok so when you do it it's not??

[upper seal]

Is he a spellcaster

A lich of course he is

[flint ledge]

What you said

[upper seal]

Idk the name reminds me of smth

[woven flint]

The way you word it makes it sound worse than intended

[tame estuary]

vecna's pretty famous

[upper seal]

Ima check

[umbral girder]

I think the eve of ruin game is 75% done now

[woven flint]

Vecna is also what the kids in Stranger Things named their "BBEG" After

[flint ledge]

I was aboutta say that

[umbral girder]

Tokii are you guys level 18 or 17? I forget.

[woven flint]

18, I believe? Idk

[upper seal]

I haven’t watched stranger things

[sour cave]

Have any of you ever finished a dnd game?

[upper seal]

I was talking about dbd

[sour cave]

Best I’ve done is lvl up 3 times

[woven flint]

Yeap

[sour cave]

Good ending or bad ending

[tame estuary]

vecna from stranger things is in dbd I think?

[umbral girder]

A lot

[tame estuary]

vecna from dnd isn't

[umbral girder]

Wrong

[umbral talon]

hello folks

[woven flint]

Good.
For my character, at least

[umbral girder]

Stranger things version is not in DbD

[tame estuary]

which one is in fortnite

[upper seal]

Guys would a character who thinks he’s a wizard but in reality he’s hallucinating and he’s just imagining using spells and he’s actually just throwing cannonballs at his enemys be fun

[umbral girder]

D&D Vecna is in DbD

[woven flint]

He is, actually!

[upper seal]

The red guy?

[woven flint]

Both Vecna's are in DBD

[umbral girder]

Oh was he finally added? Because I know he got announced

[upper seal]

Vecna overload

[umbral girder]

Didn’t know if he actually got released

[upper seal]

.

[flint ledge]

500 vecnas

[tame estuary]

please don't rush people

we can have conversations not including you

[upper seal]

I know thats mb but I also thought they just didn’t notice it and got caught up in vecna

[peak pecan]

Fun for you, maybe. For the table? Depending on the tone of the game, either very fun or very tiring, very quickly

[umbral girder]

Vecna got added to DbD the same time Eve of Ruin was released

[woven flint]

Oh, another thing

We're Fighting Acererak soon

[tame estuary]

what if we end eve of ruin by playing dbd lmao

[umbral girder]

That’s just Ravenloft

[woven flint]

Then after Acererak is either the Hells or Menzobarranzan

[flint ledge]

Woah, who are you planning to fighting after that, Orcus?

[woven flint]

Eve of Ruin stuff

[umbral girder]

smiles in Spider Queen thoughts

[tame estuary]

I can come back for that for a session or two, but some people in the party might not be fine with it

[woven flint]

We're fighting Vecna eventually anyway lol

[upper seal]

I guess having a guy who does that would get boring after like 2 turns

[woven flint]

Honestly?
I kinda would like our Odds against Orcus, but i can't be sure we'd win.

I mean
My characters biggest feat is Killing a Drow Matron Mother before she could take her turn, with a bit of help from our Rogue

[umbral girder]

Scion Rogue is wildly good

[tame estuary]

the rogue does so much damage man

[molten glade]

So just to be sure, you can't add something on a sheet on dnd beyond if you didn't buy it's relevant source, right

[tame estuary]

actual pocket bomb

rowan will one shot vecna at this rate

[woven flint]

It was Sovis' first time killing a member of his own kind.

[umbral girder]

Yep unless it’s shared by a DnD beyond subscriber or if you homebrew it into the system

[flint ledge]

It has the downside of: "I missed? Dang that's my turn I guess"

[woven flint]

We've been against many, but he had always managed diplomacy

[tame estuary]

scion rogue nullifies that weakness

[molten glade]

And you can't manually edit the sheet

[umbral girder]

Scion getting two sneak attacks a round is so funny

[upper seal]

Anyone ever had like a really boring time because of one person?

[tame estuary]

hey if you want to manually edit a sheet without any restriction from the VTT, you can always fill a pdf

or pencil and paper it

[tame estuary]

the more you play the more you'll enjoy even the boring time

[umbral girder]

Even digital fillable PDFs

[cinder timber]

Sometimes

I struggle to get immersed in a dm's world

[upper seal]

I could understand that

But I’m easily entertained

And immersed

[cinder timber]

Fair enough. Sounds like a boon in dnd lol

[upper seal]

Basically is

Means I’ll have a good time 9/10 times

[cinder timber]

Dang, that's a good rate!

[upper seal]

I’d bump it up to 10

but math says eventually I’ll not have a good time

Like how u cant win everytime

[cinder timber]

9/10 is more than plenty

[limber trail]

it ultimately comes down to what everyone at the table wants and is invested in

[woven flint]

I'm invested in you, pookie /respectful rizz

[upper seal]

I want anything but a game where theres futuristic tech

Like I don’t want ak47’s in a fantasy game or like a attack helicopter

Just ruins the fantasy for me yk?

[cinder timber]

🤣

[woven flint]

Believe it or not
Futuristic tech does exist within the realms anyway

[upper seal]

You miss 100% of the shots u dont take

[upper seal]

Oh god what kind?

[woven flint]

Nah, he's my friend
I love harassing him

[umbral girder]

Yeah my players saw an Anti-Matter rifle the other session in my Tuesday game

[woven flint]

We did.

It was in Sigil, so, Sigil shenanigans expected.
Tasha bought it off an Illithid 😭

[umbral girder]

An Illithid dressed as a pirate

[upper seal]

WDYM A ANTI MATTER RIFILE

[umbral girder]

It’s filled with Anti-Matter

Also shoots it

Straight from the core rulebooks

[woven flint]

Is this another Sigil Npc the group hasn't interacted with?

[upper seal]

Sounds like magic..

[umbral girder]

Nah I just saw a funny picture of a Mind Flayer dressed like a pirate

[woven flint]

Damn

[umbral girder]

I think he is a Waterdeep character

Also laser rifles are a thing too in DnD

[woven flint]

Oh! Xanathars Right hand man, i think

[umbral girder]

I like the picture of the Dwarf fighter unloading a shotgun into a Troll in the DMG

[umbral girder]

No clue.

Admittedly I don’t know too many individual DnD characters

[upper seal]

I pray I never encounter those even tho I know I will(I just hate more modern weapons or even futuristic weapons in fantasy games it ruins my immersion)

[umbral girder]

There are even Androids

[upper seal]

Well that sounds like a problem that needs solving. /j

[woven flint]

Nihiloor! I believe

[limber trail]

Debatable

[tame estuary]

eve of ruin is centered around the multiverse anyhow, it's a celebration for everything that's came before

[woven flint]

Didn't we kill that Mindflayer, Nihiloor, in Waterdeep?
The guy in the Xanathars Guild with the pet mindflayers?

[tame estuary]

something like what kind of technologies will be seen is something you should talk before the game starts, at the session 0

[limber trail]

We did

[woven flint]

Weren't we only level 5? 💀

[umbral girder]

My favorite Mind Flayer death will always be the one in the Legend of Drizzt novels

Bro casted Meld into Stone to escape an Ancient Red Dragon

The dragon used his breath to boil the stone the Mind Flayer was hiding in.

[upper seal]

Ima talk to the dm for sure but I wont like complain it’s their first time I aint making them rewrite sections just cause I dislike technology

[flint ledge]

It's likely there will be no guns or early flintlocks and muskets like it's the case in most "typical" fantasy campaigns

[upper seal]

My shield is a nail gun essentially but with large nails

It has the damage of a bow tho

It’s basically a bow

[limber trail]

We were

[woven flint]

He was a bum, then, clearly, dying to us so easily

[upper seal]

Guys

Is it normal to hate goblins?

[turbid vessel]

Better question, are you left better off by allowing hate in your heart?

[vagrant notch]

Is a vassalich a homebrew creature 🤔

[lavish flame]

I think by and large we are moving away from treating entire species as a monolith. It'd be reasonable to dislike Goblin Soldiers or Bandits due to what they do. It would be unreasonable to also direct that anger at a Goblin Baker or Smith. All that said, what you do with your character is up to you, your DM, and your other players.

[upper seal]

Soldiers, bandits, and that sort

[flint ledge]

I believe so given it's not a creature I can seem to find somewhere official

[upper seal]

If it’s hate for goblins yes

Is there a class that kinda is uhm Batman..?

[glass granite]

I’d say the closest is monk, but I’ve also heard rogue and fighter. There’s multiple classss that can get semi close

[flint ledge]

Probably shadow monk

[glass granite]

That’s magical tho

[lavish flame]

Rogue or Monk would be your best bet

[upper seal]

I mean tibetan monk techniques could ALWAYS be an excuse

[lavish flame]

I know his bit is that he's a regular guy relative to the Justice League, but Batman does magical shit relative to a regular person

[glass granite]

Touche

[flint ledge]

I suppose but it fits the whole dark knight theme

[upper seal]

“Hey batman how’d you create a blackhole”

“Tibetan monk techniques”

[glass granite]

While I agree, I’ve yet to see him conjure shadows

[upper seal]

He IS the shadows

[flint ledge]

"I astral projected myself out of my body, a technique I picked up in Tibet" (this actually happened in one of the shows)

[upper seal]

I know it did It was funny asf

He literally scared ghosts by saying “boo”

[flint ledge]

Well technically he did try to learn magic

[glass granite]

Try, yes, but till the day I see regular Batman conjure a giant shadow I think another subclass, like open hand, is more accurate

[woven flint]

I dislike batman as a character
He feels like the basis for every poorly written "Super-Genius Rich man who has a precaution for literally everything" type of individual.

[feral fulcrum]

Welcome to comic book Geniuses in a nutshell

[woven flint]

One thing that pisses me off is that Batman has dodged one of Darkseids Omega Beams.
Which.
Not even the FLASH nor SUPERMAN could do!
Just casually has jumped out of the way of something like that.

I hate how hes basically PLOT ARMOR the character.

This concludes my Batman hate yap

D&D is fun, huh?

[prisma prairie]

Ill add on a quick one, I hate that batman has in multiple ways been more of a detrimental force to ppl lives.
Joker = big bad has ended so many ppl lives
Batman: puts him in arkahm only fkr him tk escape and do the same thing all over again

Like how does Gotham have citizens anymore, at this point half of em get wiped out every week or so 💀

[hoary vale]

I honestly think it’s bcs Superman was holding back lol once bro stopped it was gg but yeah Batman dodging that shi is dumb

[prisma prairie]

Plot armour is poopoo

[hoary vale]

Sometimes necessary tho it just can’t be outlandish

There’s a fine line (this also applies to DnD (this is my way of making the convo relevant again))

[prisma prairie]

It can be good when done right, at uni our teachers would be like "if I see some bs plot armour in ya comics I will hurt you" (context i took concept and comic art at uni lol)

[lavish flame]

I often guve my players a kind of plot armor until they hit level 5

Once they get low on health, enemies might switch tactics to capture instead of kill. I just don't want someone dying at level 2 cuz then their character is just potential energy.

[hoary vale]

Yeah I’ve taken many writing fiction and creative writing classes I feel that

[hoary vale]

There’s a fine line while DMing I only go for the throat when I run bbeg last session or a high ranking elites

[peak pecan]

The dice killed my party’s healer NPC on one of her first outings and trauma bonded the party to her

Never go “full method” when running a Nothic with level 2 PCs

She went after the Cleric to down her and attacked her once downed; it made sense in the moment

[lavish flame]

I make my boss fights tougher intentionally too. I recently ran a White Dragon fight which opened with the dragon grappling someone, flying up, and dropping a PC. I love juicing up a boss fight.

I still like when smaller threats try to kill a party. I figure it makes logical sense for a Chimera or Duergar Despot to just try to kill a person, even if they're already unconscious.

[hoary vale]

Yeah I was running ancient black dragon one time and I remember the Erina cleric (porcupine folk essentially) tried to burrow and place a bomb under him but the dragon just acid breathed into the hole lol it was brutal

And yeah smaller threats do make sense too tbh like kobolds (if run correctly)

[regal finch]

is there anything like dnd beyond's character creator with all the different books content in it? ran out of character slots i can make with a friend campaign sharing and just wanna pump out character sheets for cool ideas 😭

[lavish flame]

I love the semiaquatic dragons because their tactics can get disgusting. Its a nightmare to fight submerged if you don't have a Swim Speed. A Red Dragon can just grapple and dragon someone into lava and be totally fine during all stages of that.

[gusty lion]

U can try (hero forge)

[cloud bison]

anyone know where one could find issue 1 of dragontales magazine from 1980 as a pdf? i cant seem to find it on Drivethrough RPG or paizo's site but maybe im using the wrong search terms?

[hoary vale]

Yeah the funny thing is is that dragons are considered some of the nicer monsters in the world

[gusty lion]

It’s terrifying!

[hoary vale]

I use steinhardt's guide to the eldritch hunt for certain circumstances and encounters and the creatures in their are nasty fellows

[lavish flame]

There's no free alternative. If a free character sheet hosting site existed (and came with all 5e/5.5 content), it would be incredibly illegal and would just get taken down.

Your next best bet for "I want to make character sheets" would be Demiplane, but you'd need to go buy the D&D books again on Demiplane to be able to use them.

[hoary vale]

For real it be scary

[gusty lion]

True

[gusty lion]

U can also search online and then print the sheet

[lavish flame]

Actually, there is a totally free alternative. Use the form fillable PDF Character Sheets that are 100% free. Fill in each field as you make the characters and its 100% free

[hoary vale]

I also have magitech in my setting (very no traditional Ik Ik lol) so sometimes a rogue sentient magitech machine becomes a scary issue too

[lavish flame]

I'm not sure I'd agree tbh

[gusty lion]

Yah , and in dnd beyond are also opportunities to do a sheet for free

[gusty lion]

I agree

[hoary vale]

Yeah either way ur cooked but id honestly have the dragon squish me to death vs the eldritch horror screw my mind slowly 😭

[rough basalt]

In a brewing of the home variety mood.

[merry tulip]

I met the party, I stole from the party, I joined the party

[lavish flame]

they're letting their thief hang out with them?

[merry tulip]

Yep

I stole 2 potions for them

[rough basalt]

Only problem with the homebrewing mood is ideas don't work out because I am not smart.

[neat depot]

Is anyone really proficient in roll20?
I have a question okay.

I want to know if there’s a way for me to get a map pin to be hidden, so that when someone comes so close the map pin it appears, or if their passive perception is so high it will show for only that player?

It would be so helpful if they could actually do that in this VTT that would be pretty wicked.

Does anyone know if this is something that foundry does or not? I would be very interested in doing this with a VTT for my Curse of Strahd game.
I have a lot of extra lore accurate things to add to the game and really want to get the ball moving on getting the maps set up nicely so my party’s can split up if they so choose.

An it would be really helpful to have hidden map pins that show up only to some players so I don’t have to narrate everything and some things can remain hidden.

[rough basalt]

Sounds like something foundry could potentially do with the right modules and configs

But it'd be better to ask in the discord for Foundry.

[timid anvil]

this is also a better topic for #third-party rather then here :)

[spice crane]

Ohh third party! When will it happens?

[lyric viper]

When you finish your second party, young hobbit.

[spice crane]

Lol, so I’ve got to survive the sequel before unlocking the crossover event? Guess I'd better level up fast, wise wizard.

[cloud bison]

is this deprecated now?

[still plover]

Old characters are still good, 2014 rules are still available.

[cloud bison]

is there a way to get the premade characters and dice sets from this if we already own the other content?

[still plover]

Oh, hah! Thanks for that, I'm meant to be showing someone the ropes later today. Was hoping to run them through chargen with DDB. Looks like if the maintenance finishes on schedule we should be fine.

[errant sonnet]

I am resisting the urge to make Strahd more like Count Orlok

The idea would be that his descent upon turning into a vampire would be much more visceral and grotesque, his body twisting to match his mind

It would also provide a way for the players to track his whereabouts

My game also have heavy themes of occultism, so a grotesque, occultism-addicted, accursed Strahd just seems so striking to me

[still plover]

Why resist? Make it your own.

[cloud bison]

Ship of Theseus strahd

[severe rampart]

Unfortunate you can't buy the Class Starter Packs on the D&D beyond app

[cloud bison]

I feel like they’re pushing this live play thing a little too hard

I got tired of the ads around ep 3

[idle oar]

We do have #dmap-general-chat and associated channels if folks want to discuss the Dungeon Masters Actual Play (DMAP).

There is even a giveaway being run right now... so if folks want to win the Ravenloft bundle, look for the details in #dmap-news.

[nimble kelp]

How does this sound for a dnd boss encounter? the players enter a dungeon of the bbeg where they encounter very poison ivy from Batman esc mind controlled zombies and creatures and one of which is a mind controlled towering musculed demon of the sin of wrath who talks like a monotone happy white dude (think this 😀 if it was talking) while gleefully talking about how he’s gonna rip out your mortal spine through your stomach and if the players break the mind control, he’s gonna keep fighting you but now he’s a fighting the other mind controled creatures as well simply just because he was so bored under mind control and wants to kill more things and can potentially be talked out of trying to kill the players and even be a potential ally with right and I would assume obvious convincing

[idle oar]

It sounds like a boss encounter. Question for you is would it be fun for your group to deal with, is there enough clues/signs on ways they can interact with the challenge so it isn't just a free-for-all brawl with no clear end goal, and do you feel it would be fun to run? Also folks in #dm-discussion might have more suggestions and feedback.

[nimble kelp]

Oh dip! I thought it was dm discussion I’m very sorry i need glasses apparently

[nimble kelp]

But hmmm I would probably give a window for dialogue if the demons mind control breaks to implicate his rather simple motivations of wanting to kill more things

[lost flicker]

are there any resources for creating infernal script as presented from DiA digitally?

i'm attempting to create digital assets to print for my players in infernal but i'm wondering if there's an infernal script resource I could use.. like a font

[merry tulip]

if my character goes unconscious or something that makes me not able to move, if im flying (fairy), am i screwed?

[lost flicker]

If I remember correctly if you can't move but if you're a flying character with the (hover) trait then you should be fine- but unconcious isn't just not moving, and i'm pretty sure while you're unconcious the hover trait is ignored

sorry, extra text- what i'm saying is that yeah you're screwed- assuming you're like 200 feet in the air or something

if you're only like 30 feet or something you should be fine

[severe rampart]

It's one of the leading deaths of flying PCs

[merry tulip]

i dont think fairys have a hover feature

[lost flicker]

yeah I don't think so either i'm just rambling

[merry tulip]

bout to hit my head on a rock, die on fall

[paper portal]

Flight is kinda busted so it's a fair drawback imo

[lost flicker]

"They can go over the encounter" roof

"They can scale the mountain" archers

you know what, no, don't even counter your flyers, let them be flying

[severe rampart]

Flight is cool but should be used in moderation

[lost flicker]

actually- no, kill all your flyers

harpoon guns

[paper portal]

Sure there are ways to handle them but the fact that they need to be handled says enough I think

[merry tulip]

out of context

[still plover]

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/DescentintoAvernus/comments/d7ll4i/infernal_font/

(But I want you to know I'm biting my tongue)

[lost flicker]

if I had a nickel for every PC i've run a campaign for that was an aerie of some kind and ended up losing their wings and getting them back through magical means i'd have like 2 nickel's which gets me 2/3 a black n white page at my local library

[lost flicker]

I don't know what this means

[still plover]

My nameplate says Mr Smith, right? Not Google.com.

[lost flicker]

harpoon guns

[lost flicker]

sigh.. 🙄

I'll have you know I actually DID go to google and found nothing useful so I thought i'd come ask people 🙄

[cloud bison]

Can I get the link for dndbeyond?

[lost flicker]

only thing I found was a ttf file and I can't use those on homebrewery

sighhh

[still plover]

That is a separate problem.

[past blaze]

you don't need to manually counter flyers

they already have a counter

no cover for any sort of ranged attacks or abilities, and extreme danger for suddenly no longer flying, being free damage and autoprone

[paper portal]

There's so many enemies that are functionally just melee bricks is the thing

[merry tulip]

i just read minor illusion isnt a concertation spell, so technical you can use 2 minor illusions to have the image and sound

[past blaze]

The illusion ends if you cast this spell again.

[merry tulip]

didnt see that, but i would be nice

in a perfect world

[humble cairn]

The Illusionist Wizard can do both with one casting as part of their subclass.