dnd-discussion

[humble cairn]

Because it's cooler this way?

Less samey samey

[stray sage]

i suppose that is ultimately subjective

[humble cairn]

Yeah, but that's the only answer I can give since I don't know the developer's reasoning.

I like that they just made it the Fear spell, as well. No more weird niche rules about resisting making you immune for a whole day.

[fickle heart]

Frightful Presence being shifted to Fear does kinda lose the plot on dragons, sadly.

It also shifts the paradigm to "well, stuff isn't terrifying unless it uses a spell, oops", which is...again totally losing the plot on dragons.

[humble cairn]

I dunno, the no components bit makes it feel like innate magic, to me.

[fickle heart]

The point is that it's not meant to be magic, though.

[humble cairn]

I feel like the line there is a bit arbitrary? What's big difference between not magical and just naturally magical?

[fickle heart]

Well, it was always meant to represent that dragons were innately terrifying creatures to behold and combat, and Paladin's Aura of Courage conveniently was a sort of anti-dragon feature and representative of them being paragons that allow standing against that.

[humble cairn]

That interaction is still there. Is it that allowing things like Counterspell and Antimagic Field to also affect it steps on Paladin's toes?

Oh Counterspell can't affect it, come to think of it.

[fickle heart]

The issue is that the interaction is gone, because Fear is a cone.

[humble cairn]

I don't understand? Aura of Courage just requires you to stand close to the Paladin, doesn't it?

[fickle heart]

Frightful Presence was what would be considered a 120-foot Emanation, with no Concentration required, which has now been shifted to a 30-foot Cone, that requires Concentration.

Of course, Fear has extra benefits like making the creatures flee, but it's a totally different vibe with its mechanics.

The point being that Paladins got an anti-Frighten ability, when the titular monsters of the game had a Frighten ability.

Being immune to it after you succeed is meant to represent steeling your resolve for the fight, which is why you're immune to it for 24 hours.

It's not the end of the world, but I mostly think it's unfortunate that they changed because it's one of those classical fantasy things that's just so iconic to dragons and had a really neat unique representation within D&D with how it was something so many dragons shared.

[humble cairn]

I'm not sure I had such an iconic association with that specific mechanic.

Like .. dragons are still terrifying. Red Dragons are terrifying in a different way, that their unbridled ego gives them the Comman spell innately.

I feel like dragons are still majestic and terrible to behold and fight.

Green dragons being so insidious that they can lie and modify your memory is just perfect for them.

[fickle heart]

I'm actually not against them having other abilities beyond it, I just think it's good to have iconic abilities like Frightful Presence and breath weapons.

The amount of class feature stuff indirectly tied to dragon abilities by design is unsurprisingly high, like Evasion and Danger Sense.

[sterile wren]

is anyone here?

[lavish flame]

most people in Europe are just waking up or are still asleep, most people in the USA are well asleep. Some people are here

[humble cairn]

Hello from Thailand!

[sterile wren]

Hello from the USA! Because screw sleeping lol.

[humble cairn]

Ahh, but how can you adventure tomorrow without taking a Long Rest?

[sharp geyser]

I’m in China rn, sup

[keen hornet]

im in am erica making bad choices

i wish I was in china tho

[sterile wren]

Uhhm actually in my homebrew long rests take 7 days and are replaced with medium-length rests :).

[humble cairn]

Yeah I feel that. I'm often making bad choices to chat with the folks in the US.

[sharp geyser]

I’ll eat on your behalf

[keen hornet]

thank you,

I kind of want to make a 'last man standing' effect for my dnd where if you're the last party member not downed you get like, desperation buffs or something

[sharp geyser]

The indomitable human spirit should be a buff

[humble cairn]

Alternate idea, each party member has a type of buff they can give to the other members of the party when they are downed.

So the last one standing would have a lot of buffs.

You'd just need to balance it so that it's useful but not too useful, or else people would rather be downed.

[keen hornet]

my level 10 dnd party made the mistake last session of leaving the vengeance paladin to fight an elemental that had 200hp

[sharp geyser]

What do you guys do when you notice your teammates’ character build is a bit… subpar? Cause on one hand, I don’t wanna intrude and boss ppl around, but on the other hand, if your AC is 8, I don’t think you’re gonna have a good time.

[keen hornet]

dude technically hit 0hp but had a magic coat that restored 40 upon him going down

[agile hemlock]

I have plan

Enchanter Wizard or Sorcerer with a puppet as a spellcasting focus

[humble cairn]

Mm, err on the side of letting them play their character how they want unless they ask for help.

[glass granite]

I’m on the side of how do you get that low AC

If they’re a caster and can learn it I’d bring up mage armor once, else if they don’t ask and are having fun then let them do what they want

[keen hornet]

i wish I had this issue, the wizard ofmy players' party had 14 AC
the paladin has 24
the barbarian/juggernaut whatever has 21
the rogue has 16

I have to hit these nerds with status effects to cause issues lmao

[sharp geyser]

-2 on dexterity

[glass granite]

And no armor?

[sharp geyser]

Padded Armor

[humble cairn]

No armor, no shield, no barkskin or Mage Armor.

[keen hornet]

i rule in my games that lower dex doesn't actually lower your AC below 10

because I do believe a clumsy dude could trip and fall out of the way of a sword lmao

[humble cairn]

That should be AC 9

Not much better, but still.

[sharp geyser]

Ye, I was remembering on the top of my head

[keen hornet]

i always want to make like, big ass 250x250 dnd maps. I play gridless but still

but it's so hard to actually made a map that big full of interesting stuff

[sharp geyser]

They’re a bard

[keen hornet]

unless they're a sword bard shouldn't they be like cowering behind the paladin or smth

[sharp geyser]

We’re all lvl 1, and maybe that’s the case, but dumping dex is gonna be rough.

[odd valley]

reminds me of my very first character

[sharp geyser]

I think some of them are indeed new players. I’m not like a big min-maxxer but if you’re gonna play a sorcerer having all rituals spells as your level one spells it’s gonna be rough

[cobalt owl]

There's not Min maxing and then there's sandbagging

[still plover]

Well, yeah? That'd be about 400 metres long and wide. A football pitch is 100 metres. A city block in New York is 88.

[keen hornet]

I've made a 150x150 before. They're peak when you manage em

I usually do 75x75

[cinder timber]

What makes an interesting game premise to yall?

[still plover]

Sure, can be.

[keen hornet]

Specifically for dnd? I like aesthetic. Anything with some degree of gunpowder works too. A villain using new technology, for instance.

[sharp geyser]

Sandbagging?

[still plover]

(Coffee first)

[keen hornet]

Part of me wants an ATLA themed dnd egh

[humble cairn]

You can get partway there, but why not just use the ATLA TTRPG?

[keen hornet]

Didnt know one existed nor where to play that tbh

And none of my friends are into the settung enough

[still plover]

If they're not super useful elsewise, they may be a weight that the team ends up dragging around.

[humble cairn]

I generally like a game that is collaborative, involving the players creating parts of the setting and campaign along with their characters, references to real world myths is a plus!

[cinder timber]

Ok, so my bbeg should have something to do with coffee

[still plover]

Ah ha, ah ha.

[keen hornet]

Fighter villain that recharges action surge by drinking a coffee

[humble cairn]

Noble from a prosperous land has subjugated an entire area in a far off land, turning it into croplands for coffee, subjugating the locals, and ravaging the local ecology. The party comes from this subjugated land and have to fight against the forces of said corrupt noble as well as locals who have been corrupted by promises of wealth.

[keen hornet]

This is just a farcry plot

[humble cairn]

Never watched that series. Heard good things, though.

[still plover]

You're not wrong.

[keen hornet]

Its a game not a series,,, but fair,,

The games after 3 are basically "fight evil dictator as oppressed person"

[humble cairn]

What am I thinking then? Some scifi series with a living spaceship.

[keen hornet]

Wh. I have no idea-

[still plover]

Farscape.

[humble cairn]

Ahh, thank you.

[still plover]

"Tomorrow is a rest day!" is a saying in our house.

[humble cairn]

Having never watched the series, I don't get the reference. But rest days are great!

[keen hornet]

Part of me wants to do a hardcore dnd story where there is like 365 days until the bbeg is able to do a ritual and immediatelt win. Players can fight him at any point if they can get there, but obviously aren't immediately ready to. A SR is 1 day, and a LR is 7. Etc

[still plover]

And now I'm just thinking of that scene where Rygel fends off the angry mob with flammable pee. Thanks, Ophid. Now all I can do is giggle.

It makes sense in context!

[still plover]

Alright, back to business. An interesting premise. Let's see...

To me, it'd be something where the party's actions will have a meaningful effect on the setting. Even if it's a Rogue Trader themed Spelljammer game where you're going hither and yon, at some point we're coming home, dealing with changes, building something.

[sharp geyser]

Ahah I see, i would hate that to happen, but as a gamer I also know how it feels to get unwarranted advice from someone and having that feel like they’re breathing on your neck

[indigo wing]

If sm1 casts tsunami, does the water vanish after 6 rounds?

[still plover]

And now I'm thinking that's less a function of the premise. Hmm. Tricky one, Zenith!

[still plover]

Yeah. I dunno. Maybe mentioning that a goblin has a 80% hit chance on them? AC 9, +4 to hit, they need a 5 or better on the d20.

[errant crag]

Realizing how often my players fight beasts and plants and other creatures that do poison damage

Like Detect Poison and Disease would actually be valuable in my games

[still plover]

Seems like it, yes.

[rough basalt]

I've completed the first of 3 floors for my upcoming games starter area dungeon

I feel good

[sharp geyser]

Honestly, I think it’s best for me to shut up until they got hurt and want to listen. Kinda like letting a kid bike on two wheels, let them fall once, and then giving tips afterwards.

[jaunty zinc]

Hmm, I have a question. The character I plan to create has many important aspects that will be based on the kingdom it belongs to, but the kingdom of my character, as I wrote it, contains a lot of information. So how do I reconcile explaining the information about my character's kingdom with keeping the main focus on the journey?

[rough basalt]

I forgot how much I love making dungeons

[still plover]

Consider how that makes your character think and act in the here and now.

[hot gate]

If the kingdom features in the game you plan to join, I suppose many of these apsects will come up in play? And if not, I'd just focus on the reason why your character is adventuring in the first place and keep it short.

After all, the DM will decide how much of the backstory to implement.

[jaunty zinc]

Hmm, well, that sounds like a good idea. Since the kingdom's system is based on merit and royal adoption, which allows all those with the necessary skills to rise to royal rank, my character will most likely not be naturally interested in noble blood. This will be a great challenge for the character.

[still plover]

You can just scratch down (say): "I don't like folk who just follow orders" without going into the whole "in my homeland, there was a demonic uprising that led to purges against the tainted and those seeming to be, leading to purges of tieflings, mob "justice" for perceived witchcraft and martial law."

[still plover]

"I value others for their deeds, not their lineage."

[jaunty zinc]

Yeah that damn good I like it

[indigo wing]

So I once played a 5e campaign which ended with nearly all life being whipped out and the world turning into a frozen barren wasteland. I was a level 18 i will of land druid then. I was thinking about it and I wanted to recreate the character as a level 20 druid working to heal the world and create a safe space for survivors. I was wondering what spells would fit this task. Like Plant Growth to slowly reinvigorate the land, Control Weather to fix the weather, Create or Destroy Water to create water, Conjure Animals to summon bulls for farming. Any other ideas? ( Also should this be in character discussion? )

[limber trail]

I could see spells that assist in terraforming to create beds for rivers, repair land for forest etc working.

Speak with animals and plants are a given too

[candid storm]

It’s important to recruit others to your cause. You could teach casters of any level to use the Elementalism and Prestidigitation spells to clean water. Presti can also be used to flavor foods, meaning that you can focus the less infinite resources and spell slots on making more food rather than more types. Purify Food and Drink would likely be an important spell as well, with more food being created and processed, there’s more food to potentially be wasted due to rotting or mishandling. Mirage Arcane can hide ruined buildings and barren land from animals (or even people) with strong preferences. For another great cantrip: mold earth is miraculous for efficient shelter. Goodberry creates ten berries at a time, each enough to sustain anyone for a day. Aura of purity can act somewhat like a hazmat suit, though you’d need to ask your dm for their ruling on that, and you should probably suggest an upcast effect to get the proper personal isolation. Don’t be afraid to run a Flaming Sphere through a forest if need be, it can be healthy in some cases. Tsunami can probably be used somehow.

[indigo wing]

Oh this isnt for an actual campaign. The campaign has ended. Im just curious about what the druid could do after the "unhappy ever after".

[molten glade]

What's the difference between lightning and thunder damage

[indigo wing]

Electricity and sound i believe

[still plover]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/rules-glossary#DamageTypes

[reef tundra]

I think this is one occasion where I prefer the older version’s take, where thunder was called sonic damage

It made it more easily identifiable as sound damage

[cobalt owl]

The important thing is it's shock wave based

[mighty wharf]

I'm excited to join this campaign. I'll be starting at level 4, soon to be 5, and I'm playing Chronos again, with an absolutely NUTS rolled stats array.

[cobalt owl]

Congratulations for rolled stats

[mighty wharf]

DM said I could start with a few extra spells known and a spell storing ring since I will be behind on loot progression

[mighty wharf]

Yeah, it was a [12, 14, 15, 16, 16, 18]

[severe rampart]

Without looking it up, what do you think is the average height for a halfling?

[mighty wharf]

3 feet

[cobalt owl]

I read tiefling not halfling

[mighty wharf]

Lol

[cobalt owl]

3.35 feet

[severe rampart]

so it is true, my player is a halfling among halflings, coming in at 2 feet 6 inches

[cobalt owl]

2 standard deviations below I guess

[mighty wharf]

Given this array, I am going to try and play Tank Wizard lol. Basically just artichron but more annoying and aggressive.

[cobalt owl]

Have fun with that

[mighty wharf]

It's going to be peak. I will be the best tank the world has ever seen

[cobalt owl]

In before tank fallacy goes brrrr

[mighty wharf]

What's that?

[rough basalt]

It's where you mistakenly believe you can actually "tank" in certain tabletop games.

[severe rampart]

takes out Bingo card

[rough basalt]

Basically, you can't force multiple enemies to attack you unless you're a Crown Paladin.

[mighty wharf]

Okokokok listen, if I'm a Wizard, and I'm casting a lot of AoE control spells with concentration effects, and I use spells from Arti list like Sanctuary to remove my allies as targets, and position myself relatively close to enemies and reduce how many enemies are active at one time, realistically I would definitely get enemies attention right?

[rough basalt]

Sanctuary doesn't protect from aoes.

Specifically aoes counter sanctuary.

[mighty wharf]

Well that's why we have a Paladin, to get those juicy saving throw bonuses

And I can reroll saving throws too if I really need to, even allies saving throws

[rough basalt]

Also Sanctuary can only be casted on 1 person at a time.

And of course 1 spell slot per round.

[thorn osprey]

My player doesn't seem to understand how absurd it is to "see the future" as a level 1 wizard, how can I convince him 😭

[rough basalt]

You tell him it's absurd and to drop it.

[mighty wharf]

Listen, the concept is mainly that I will be the #1 target and my DM will do everything in their power to attack me and drop my concentration so they can use their dudes

[rough basalt]

Which won't be too hard.

[thorn osprey]

Been trying but that man doesn't wanna let go lol

[rough basalt]

Then he gotta go

[mighty wharf]

To drop my concentration?

[thorn osprey]

😭

[rough basalt]

That or just down you

Enemies start attacking two times a turn minimum pretty early on.

[keen valve]

Isn't there technically a divinitation cantrip or spell that introduces you to the concept at level 1? Couldn't you just tell him to reconsider his ability in this and maybe to entertain something more inaccurate, training until he's able to do more complex abilities in regards to foretelling?

[thorn osprey]

I gave him a good deal with allowing his patron to do the "foresight" but he also gets information whenever the devil wanted him to know something, usually just messing with him.

But "noooo, I want this!"

[keen valve]

I would ask him if it's more interesting for his character to be great at something right off the bat, or if it would be more interesting to improve.

The point of a level 1 starting game is that your characters aren't the best at what they do, and they need to improve and try to get better.

[rough basalt]

Guidance could be flavored that way, but generally future sight doesn't start coming in till level 5 or higher.

[thorn osprey]

and most of it is random at best; until LATER

[keen valve]

Maybe there's a mismanagement of expectations here that can be addressed.

[rough basalt]

Yeah sounds like a kid throwing a tantrum.

[thorn osprey]

Nope, I've been telling him over and over that the start will be quite easy going and everyone will be at an equal level of "weak"

[thorn osprey]

That's what I am also getting out of it lol

[keen valve]

Curious, have you considered asking why he feels that it's right for him to have this, or wrong for him not to have it?

What about it is so integral that he cannot do without it?

[thorn osprey]

Nothing, he just "wants to be cool"

[rough basalt]

Yeah this is just a disruptive player.

[thorn osprey]

Well glad I am not being a bad DM for not letting him lol

[rough basalt]

Main character syndrome types are good to add to your pokedex of bad players tho

So make sure to capture him and get him logged before releasing him into the wild.

[thorn osprey]

Maybe being a bit too cruel, but I don't plan on having much of him involved in the story tbh

[keen valve]

That's innocent, but it's not acceptable to deny comprimise. You should explain this to him so as to maybe come to a mutual understanding. D&D is teamwork, and part of that teamwork is working with your DM to make an experience which is balanced for the game, but also tries to entertain what he and everyone else (you included) would like.

[rough basalt]

These kinds of people are better off not being around ime.

They'll probably keep moping if they're not listening already.

[thorn osprey]

Ehh, he'll learn his lesson. He is one of my closer friends, but needs a humbling.

[keen valve]

I would be a bit more softer than Sora, honestly. I dislike these opinions nowadays that we have to be so brutal and dead in our delivery of decisions.
We should work to be as understanding as we can be, and be just as understanding even when they are wrong.

[mighty wharf]

To break my concentration, they need to roll past a +7 modifier, and War Caster advantage if I decide to take it at level 5 if enemies are really aggressive, that is a 99% chance of success with a DC of 10. Then, I can use a reroll Chronal Shift or Lucky (2014, it adds a die to advantage) for essentially super advantage, and if it's DC 20, with that super advantage it's still about a 0.1% chance.

[rough basalt]

Well it sounds like they've been doing things civilly and the person's not listening

[mighty wharf]

That's at level 5 which we'll be at by the end of this next dungeon

[rough basalt]

It's important to know when to put your foot down.

[keen valve]

I agree, I just think that it serves better to not be harsh about it. Definitely put your foot down, but don't slam it down, yk?

[thorn osprey]

That I plan on doing, I'll try to keep convincing him^^ if he isn't sold, I'll simply just say no and move on. I'll be more cruel and tell him that he won't even get a starting item.

[mighty wharf]

And if you think that's not how rerolls work, let me share a SAC errata with you

[rough basalt]

I give 3 strikes then slamming time.

[keen valve]

I personally give it until they start accosting me.

Which surprisingly has happened a lot, no offense to this server, I know they can't control all the players I get.

[rough basalt]

I've been too lenient in the past and it's been a detriment to my games.

[mighty wharf]

If the DM really decides to hate me and end my shenanigans by making me incapacitated with no save or hit or anything, then there's nothing I can do about that, that is the DM exercising their will.

[rough basalt]

And my own mental health.

[keen valve]

You can leave.

It's not criminal to disagree with a DM about your shenanigans, and sometimes it just means you're not a good match together.

[rough basalt]

I'd argue I'm probably a bit too trigger happy, but I'd rather not let problems fester.

[mighty wharf]

Honestly if a DM wants to end my shenanigans, I do not care as long as it's one instance and not a consistent pattern.

[keen valve]

Agreed, it's why I say to bop out if you start to feel like you disagree too much with a DM or another player.

I've started to do it more as of late, and it makes me far happier in the end.

There is no satisfaction to "overcoming" your dislike of another player's attitude. It's not a movie, and it seldom ever actually works. People don't just randomly amend or adapt like that.

[mighty wharf]

And as long as there is a mutual understanding that I will bounce back at full force if they let me back up.

Because if a teammate goes to cast Greater Restoration or a Potion of Vitality on me to remove a condition that has removed me from the scene... well that's them exercising their will as a player to put me back in.

I love democracy

[rough basalt]

Ye like one player I had recently would roll rolls without being asked and it would constantly screw with my flow. Now I wasn't really counting it as a strike but it did annoy me.

[mighty wharf]

And listen, if you think gimmicky concentration based tank wizard Artichron is full force, I have dual casting hypnotic pattern with a familiar attuned to a spell storing ring in store for you

[keen valve]

I would personally mess with em a little. "Actually I was just gonna ask if you wanted to succeed because it would be more interesting for the story, but you did fail so... eh."

I am joking, of course.

[rough basalt]

I ended that game cause I just didn't have it in me to run it.

Wasn't invested in it like I was prior to starting it.

And one dude ghosting and another dropping didn't help

[keen valve]

I know how that feels. I had one player play cobblemon the entirety of our game time and paid no attention.
I don't think they realised I could see their activity.

[mighty wharf]

Either that, or microwaving starting at level 13 or so

[tame estuary]

that's so awful

[rough basalt]

I had a dude start watching tik toks mid session when I was narrating once.

[keen valve]

Hi, Rae!!! It was hilarious, tbh.

[tame estuary]

uh do I know you?

[rough basalt]

Combat ended then as I'm narrating the treasure I just hear tik toks through the mic.

[tame estuary]

oh it's val

[still plover]

Ugh.

[keen valve]

I was going to make a Gotye joke.

[thorn osprey]

Honestly I'd rather being told "your story is not interesting" instead of this, I'd actually get mad at them ngl

[tame estuary]

I have a really fun group right now, little mishaps and their energy sometimes overlap each other, but that's my job as the DM right?

a cure to a broken heart is just the right people

I wonder if statistically you just have more bad tables than good tables

[severe rampart]

it takes time to find the one that really speaks to you

[rough basalt]

I think it's cause good tables you're likely to stay at

So you run into less.

[icy ember]

My party will be in a monster hunting challenge. I don't want to simply decide if they killed the most monsters or not, anybody have any good ideas for how to determine if the amount the party kills is a winning amount?

[severe rampart]

Well first off, how strong are they relative to the other parties hunting monsters?

[icy ember]

The only other plot relevant party I care about keeping track of is their rival party. They're the same level and same amount of party members, I'm scaling them up with the party

[severe rampart]

Could always roll for it, the more monsters the party hunts the lower the DC

[icy ember]

It's a three day hunt so I was thinking about setting a dc per day depending on how many monsters the party hunts, then best of the three days wins

[severe rampart]

Sounds good

[timber canyon]

you can make the challenge a bit more interesting by making points depending on what monster it is, rather than x amount of monsters killed. depending on the monster, it could have a different value. take storage into consideration perhaps. how are they going to prove they killed it? maybe you could use other rival parties to sabotage them or something

[icy ember]

I like this, for a story flavor perspective. It would be too much of a hassle for me to actually track points, but if the party thinks I am then that's all that matters. But I like the idea of deciding the DC with consideration of the types of monsters killed

[severe rampart]

Lmao, finds mound of ants, wins by 3 million

[timber canyon]

lmao

[blazing lark]

Is the playable fae/fairy race in the 2025 rulebook?

[stiff rock]

monsters of the multiverse has a fairy if 2014 is allowed, forge of the artificer has a changeling (which is fey) and lorwyn first light has a faerie race too but i'm not sure if that's official

no fey in the phb though

[blazing lark]

ah

[glass granite]

Could take the average damage for monsters

Rather than rolling for damage

[severe rampart]

but that's boring

[cursive thorn]

It is quicker though.

[hot marlin]

It's very, very rare for combat to take up to 3 hours. That would require an extremely complex fight with a lot of opponents and many factors to deal with

That still does not justify a three hours fight

So, a few tricks to speed it up

1. Designate a player as the "damage accountant". The DM doesn't bother writing down the damage, that PC takes care of writing all damage taken by every enemy. The DM can simply ask how much damage a given foe has taken.
2. Use the average damage instead of rolling if you're not in a VTT.
3. Respect the order of operations. First declare the attack, then roll the attack, then roll the damage. No takebacks, no "oh, I can use a reaction". You use your reaction exactly when it should have been used.

Spellcasters should read their spells while it's not their turn, not during their turn. If you need to read your spell during the turn, screw it, you're using a cantrip and we're moving on.

[blazing lark]

I'm working on a character (2024 rules) and idk what class/subclass to pick, the idea is they're a fae going through a goth phase who wants to use dark magic but all their magic is fae magic so like fairy dust and glitter and everything

[severe rampart]

Flavor is free

Warlock maybe? and you can flavor Eldritch Blast as what you want

[hot marlin]

Some other tricks: Consider your turn in terms of actions. First you have your action, what do you do with it? Then your bonus action? What do you do with it? Then your movement, what do you do with it?
That way someone's turn becomes something as simple and quick as "Action: Two melee attacks with my sword, first one on the ghoul, second on the ghoul if it's still standing, on the zombie if I kill the ghoul. Bonus action: Unarmed strike on the ghoul if it's still standing, the zombie if it's not, dash if both are down. Movement: Moving here." Quick, simple, easy.

[severe rampart]

That-... yeah that's about right actually, I was gonna say like it's too detailed but that's exactly how I think in combat

[cursive thorn]

Players should prep their attacks in advance, waiting until it is your turn to decide what to do, heavily impacts on time taken.

[blazing lark]

i was considering sorcerer because of the intrinsic fae magic idea, then starting to multiclass into wizard as the character learns dark magic

[hot marlin]

While "know what you're going to do before it's your turn" is a general rule, consider also the fact that sometimes the person who acts right before you might do something unexpected that changes your plans completely. Be flexible

[humble cairn]

Action economy gets real fun as a Beast Master when your Bonus Action turns into a whole other Action and Bonus Action, but .. no need to start off with that.

[humble cairn]

What about Bard? You start off with mostly enchantment type stuff and not much damage, but with Magical Secrets you can begin to take a lot more offensive stuff later.

[severe rampart]

you'll turn into a MAD character if you do that

[blazing lark]

could do that

are there any subclasses in particular that would lend themselves to the character?

[severe rampart]

what does that mean?

[humble cairn]

Well you've told us the flavor, but you haven't told us the play style.

"Fae wannabe Goth" is just an aesthetic, which can be put on top of any mechanics. What do you want your powers and abilities to actually do, mechanically?

[blazing lark]

well for the fae magic, it'd be your average magic blasts and whatnot, probably sorcerer stuff (or eldritch blast if warlock), but also probably support stuff which a bard could do

like shouting "Blast of Death!" and it's just a puff of glitter

would be really funny

[humble cairn]

Soo .. Color Spray.

[severe rampart]

Color Spray

You can flavor

[blazing lark]

looking it up that sounds about right

[humble cairn]

I'd recommend not multiclassing.

I think Lore Bard would work great. Not only can you get some oomph out of nasty jokes or deep sarcasm in this case (Cutting Words) but you can also start taking spells from Wizard earlier than other Bards.

[blazing lark]

sounds pretty good

[humble cairn]

It can be a trap for a lot of people. 80% or more of the character concepts people want to do in #character-discussion are better done as monoclassed than multiclassed.

Here was one example of a turn where I pushed the action economy to get a lot of things done. #dnd-discussion message

It's perfectly decent as a background element.

[humble cairn]

So in this turn I used a free object interaction, then my Attack to throw a net and a Magic Stone, then use my Bonus Action to command the pet to throw a net, then I used my movement, then had the pet use it's second attack to grapple me and move me even further so we were both out of immediate danger.

[stiff rock]

i feel like 18ac on my character only proficient in light is pretty good going

[haughty pulsar]

Hi so is there a way to play an actual session here ?

[sharp sapphire]

no, this is a VC chat. We don't do sessions on here. I'm looking for more people for my campaign because I just and deciding if I want new players

[haughty pulsar]

K uh

I play some classes

[severe rampart]

#looking-for-players is the right channel for that

[haughty pulsar]

I main Sorcerer and/or Warlock, but I got Fighters, Barbarians, Rangers, and (homebrew class) Sonic Warriors

[sharp sapphire]

I need more people for my campaign

[severe rampart]

again, go to the appropriate channels

[stiff rock]

didn't you say you had too many yesterday?

[haughty pulsar]

It says it’s unavailable to me

[sharp sapphire]

I got ride of a lot

[haughty pulsar]

AND A BARD, I always forget her sorry

[stiff rock]

there should be a section called 'channels and roles' at the top of the server bar, check if you've got #looking-for-players checked there

[near junco]

Any of y'all know where I can find a pbp for me and my friend, pls don't say #looking-for-players or r/pbp cuz I have been using em for weeks to no avail

[haughty pulsar]

It’s not here

[stiff rock]

i'm in the midst of making a glamour bard right now surprisingly enough

[haughty pulsar]

It’s a character with lots of hidden mechanics and possibly the one I spent the more time on, so I stocked her aside from my others

[hot gate]

you can enable channels in id:browse

[haughty pulsar]

I never played so I made a lot of stuff

Y E S

I did 1 session but there weren’t fighting or… anything else really

We were throwing mugs in a tavern

Kinda

But it was SO poorly written

Drink, then throw the mug

I asked if the target was on the ground or on a wall, and my dm just made me do a save throw

Against what ? Idk man

It took him 6 improvised save throws for me to get a 6 (each one except the last because I asked for the rules)

He did the 6th at the end of the session, i rolled a 6 and he killed my character

[hot gate]

That sounds very strange and not very fun

[haughty pulsar]

2 months of character creation for her to get killed because my now ex-friend is unable to properly explain a tavern minigame

[hot gate]

There are saving throws where you're not supposed to know why you're rolling them, but those are supposed to be few and far between. Most of the time I'd make sure the player knows.

Especially if it's new players

[haughty pulsar]

No poop

(The bad word for poop is censored)

Yeah I finish my barbarian and I’ll look at that

[hot gate]

thanks for clarifying, I was very confused

[haughty pulsar]

My favorite race is Elf due to a lot of abilities, but mostly because the EGREGIOUS amount of subclasses makes it pretty versatile

I like humans for the sale reason, even though when I’m escaping from reality, it’s not to play a human

[glad arch]

We love being the oldest in the party by a good century or 2

[fossil hollow]

that sounds like a shitty experience

[severe rampart]

Elf except they have exactly one year left to live

[glad arch]

Im sure someones done it

[severe rampart]

Everyone's done something

[fossil hollow]

I am aware of a gnome whose at death's door everyday, but not an elf

[glad arch]

Elf lived a mundane life for centuries now wants to do something exciting before visiting the big elf in the sky

[glad arch]

Gnomes get old af dont they?

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, but im referring to Chet from Critical Role

[glad arch]

Aah havent watched, not quite my style

[fossil hollow]

The old gnome toymaker bloodhunter

[glad arch]

But tbf being at deaths door is just any adventurer

[fossil hollow]

Right, but there was a 1% chance he dies at the start of a day i think

(I think he had to roll a 00 on percentile)

[glad arch]

Oowh thats hilarious

[near adder]

Hearing all these stories, and seeing all these ideas gets me pumped....

[glad lagoon]

My favorite race is Elf(Drow) because I think they’re cool, we are not the same
/j

[near adder]

I don't yet have a favorite race, but I have a couple of characters that I am waiting to give the proper try.

[glad arch]

I see your edgy elf and raise you with another edgy elf, shadar kai

[haughty pulsar]

What ?

[severe rampart]

cough Species... not subclasses 😭

Elf Species

[haughty pulsar]

Oh…

[glad lagoon]

(Also I play a lot of bards, and while Tasha’s(I think) states you can adjust your bonus stat features, I personally don’t like doing that, so having a bonus to Charisma and Dexterity of the rip is good for me)

[haughty pulsar]

French seal, sorry

[fossil hollow]

the tavern game thing

[haughty pulsar]

(Bc french seal is Phoque, pronounced fok)

[haughty pulsar]

Yeah, it was 👍

[glad arch]

I do believe we are allowed to swear here, in moderation obviously

[glad lagoon]

Woah, I’m “My Chemical Romance” edgy, not “Falling in Reverse” edgy
/j

[haughty pulsar]

Maybe, but I prefer not to just in case

[glad arch]

Fair enough

[fossil hollow]

how bout Pierce the Veil

[glad lagoon]

I’m wearing a Pierce the Veil hoodie as we speak

[fossil hollow]

sweet

[wispy harness]

peak

[woven flint]

Howdy folks

[loud tendon]

As a note, you are not allowed to swear here - family friendly language please. Also no circumventing the filter to swear.. for example; no "effing" or french word for seal..

[tame kelp]

I keep getting low rolls on either attacks or skill check. What should I do?
I feel like I am a burden to my team.
FVTT v14 btw

I am the most unluckiest player in my team.

[lavish flame]

theres kinda nothing you can do about luck

[fossil hollow]

Get new dice

[tame kelp]

I'm gonna make Ishowspeed's face for that shi.

-_-

[fossil hollow]

which one

[tame kelp]

the "PLEASE I NEED THISSSS"

"MY MOM IS KINDA HOMELESS"

[woven flint]

Trying not to laugh face?

[fossil hollow]

Ah, that one

[tame kelp]

-w-

[fossil hollow]

Wont change your luck in foundry, but new dice usually makes me feel better

[woven flint]

I get to play more of my Air Genasi Artificer today

[tame kelp]

Please foundry I need this...

[wintry spindle]

which sub class Tokii?

[tame kelp]

My dnd character is kinda homeless

[woven flint]

Forge Adept from exploring eberron

[fossil hollow]

Sending him to the moon

[tame kelp]

He live with his dad and I wanna help him out!

[wintry spindle]

Forge adept?

[fossil hollow]

battle smith without the steel defender

[woven flint]

His name is Gustav Volta, he's genie nobility (because his father is the Djinni king)

[wintry spindle]

Ahhh

[tame kelp]

I like when you said "which one"

[astral torrent]

sending 5g

[tame kelp]

cuz this guy just made a lot of face and emotion until become so many memes.

[astral torrent]

And keeping him in my cleric character’s prayers

[woven flint]

I'm still mad at you/ the Tales group /joking

I guess that campaign wasn't meant to be 😔

No Firbolg barding this time :[

[tame kelp]

I need 67g bro.

:P

[woven flint]

My Cleric has 67 hp 😭

[empty thicket]

level?

i should take tough in next ASI ngl...

[woven flint]

He's level 8
The funny is that he has 67 hp

[empty thicket]

you have more hp than my fighter at lvl 7.... that is like 56

i had that much bad luck in the rolls....

[fossil hollow]

im fairly sure artanza has a amulet of health

[woven flint]

He doesn't

he's got a +3 to con

[fossil hollow]

am i thinking of malaketh

[woven flint]

Yeah

My Harengon Wizard fellow will always go down as a Chad

[astral torrent]

now you owe me 7g for having to listen to that T-T

[olive storm]

GM found a tool to port the Curse of Strahd source book from DNDBeyond to Foundry VTT.

[woven flint]

Retired because he's a father to two dragons, one of which, is a deity.. and he's trying to raise them right
On his way to meet Bahamut seeking guidance to raise a dragon deity

[woven flint]

Love foundry
Runs like shit on my laptop though lol

[olive storm]

I'm just happy we don't have to shell out a hundo for a book we already paid money for.

[errant gorge]

Quick rules clarification: can I advertise in #looking-for-players for offline games in a physical (public) location, or does that require special approval?

[severe rampart]

I think that's risking revealing your personal information such as where you live, and that there's probably better places to advertise

[fossil hollow]

yeah, i think thats against server rules too

[errant gorge]

Which rule does it violate?

[fossil hollow]

User Safety

[severe rampart]

I got 15 minutes before session, gotta lock in

[glad lagoon]

I'm not the most experienced player, but I think if you're with a party of good friends, it's one thing to poke fun for rolling badly, it's another thing entirely to be genuinely rude about it

it's a game, a dice game, unlucky streaks are just part of it, if you wanna go the new dice/dice jail route, I'm all for it (as long as you can afford it, no hobby is worth your last dollar,) but don't feel bad for rolling poorly

only suggestion I can make is maybe take the lucky feat? but even then, that's an entire feat to MAYBE swing the odds in your favor

in my experience however, I don't really care/notice if another player at the table rolls badly(aside from the occasional dice jail joke,) If anything I just find it funny, and might suggest (if the moment allows for it and if your dm is cool with it,) come up with a funny reason why you failed the check

when I was dming, I once had an entire party fail a perception check when they entered a room (no one rolled above a 5) and joked that that the entire party just got lost in their own reflection in the window, and they seemed to enjoy that

(in retrospect, they should've used passive perception, but I was very new to dming, and wanted my players to roll dice in the dice game)

sorry for the long winded(late) response, but I hope that helps

[woven flint]

Fire

[umbral girder]

Pudding

[fossil hollow]

Gelatinous

[vast saddle]

I have a question in #dnd-rules . Need help there

[umbral girder]

Then wait for people in that channel

I just realized I’m putting Tokii’s Warlock through a generic warlock plot line

It’s just so easy to put the dark and evil powers in front of a warlock

[lusty lava]

How does one acquire permission to run Dyno to create a poll in this channel?

[woven flint]

Well, at least mine is a Celestial Warlock and generally good aligned smh

[fossil hollow]

You dont

[lavish flame]

we dont do polls here

[fossil hollow]

it got a bit abused when they were first added to discord iirc

[lavish flame]

your best bet would be applying to become a moderator, but thats gonna come with its own can of worms (cuz its a paid position here) and prolly wont even let you make polls

[lusty lava]

Rats, that seems counterproductive to a discussion channel so I guess I'll ask my question to those present 🙂

[fossil hollow]

i presume its the same reason why gifs and such arent allowed on here

[lavish flame]

polls also come with a retroactive message and ping

[lusty lava]

How do you prefer to play your D&D games? 1) Theatre of the Mind, 2) Battlemaps with supporting images/video, 3) 3D tabletop, 4) Full avatar walk-through adventures if available.

[fossil hollow]

2 or 3

One day i will have a table with an inlaid tv so i can use it for maps

[lavish flame]

2, I play with Roll20 as my Virtual Tabletop and Discord for the voice call.

[lusty lava]

I used a combo of 3 & 4 right now but I'm gauging interest as I'm contemplating a full coastal town SIM but gauging the interest.

An example of our 3D tabletop

[umbral girder]

1 and 2

[lusty lava]

oh can't post images here either heh

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-arts-and-crafts might be a good place to post

[umbral girder]

2 is mainly for dungeon crawls

[lusty lava]

https://gyazo.com/597a74fb7b4d6148ac7c8feab306d4ff

[umbral girder]

Uhhhhh

[lusty lava]

This is an example of our full avatar experience...walkthrough dungeon.

https://gyazo.com/beede68f7e7fc74c2eae1e63165089d1

First image is our 3D tabletop

I assumed gaming PC use was significantly higher, but 3D tabletops seem to be limiting for many.

[jovial talon]

Trying to figure out how many Destiny supers I can slip in the campaign before somebody notices.

I currently have Storm’s Edge set up for next session, Daybreak is attached to the BBEG, and Blade Barrage for a future NPC.

[lusty lava]

If they create interesting and engaging encounters, I wouldn't worry about it. I just created a gate guard mini-boss fight based on Godfrey from Elden Ring, and the players loved it. I find the demographic of PC gamers to RPG gamers is not as large as one would think.

[worthy oasis]

heyo

[woven flint]

Howdy

[obtuse stratus]

hi hi

[void crown]

i prefer 2 for battles and 1 for scenery

never tried 4 though sounds nice

[crimson gulch]

Physical terrain

[lusty lava]

You mean like, 3D printed Uritz?

[worthy oasis]

I am very heavy on theatre of mind haha but if my players prefer a battlemap I don't mind

[onyx sluice]

Even with Theater of the mind I try and get an image to help set the scene.

[lusty lava]

In my 30years of DMing, I've met so many peeps that claim they can't picture the scene with just verbal descriptions.

[gusty yarrow]

nothing like hitting 50 damage on a regular ass raven

[sleek lotus]

lolz, when you roll nat 20 for opening a door

[worthy oasis]

aphantasia cant be that common lmao

but i get it

[lusty lava]

Could just be my circle of friends lol

[boreal dagger]

So like, is hex blade cross bow a real combo or just a meme?

[fossil hollow]

Its a build yes. Although youre probably better using Eldritch Blast

[halcyon forum]

I think longbow is better for Hexblade archers, less feat tax, longer range

[onyx sluice]

It also depends on what flavor you want. If you dont want spell casting.

[woven flint]

We should change Sentry's name to Saitama the way those Haymakers be hitting

[boreal dagger]

I heard about it from a meme video with digital circus quotes over it "where's kinger" so I was wondering if it's that bad 😭

[halcyon forum]

weapon warlocks are legit, but crossbows specifically arent their best choice

[boreal dagger]

Meanwhile, I'm playing swashbuckler hex blade, well, I mean I played it a while ago but it's fun, never got to the stage of using hex blade though and that woulda been cool

[woven flint]

I like your pfp BTW

Creature vibes

[boreal dagger]

Very creature

[crimson gulch]

Yes, this is me #dnd-maps message

[woven flint]

La creatura 🧐

[halcyon bison]

i love creatures

[cedar bane]

those things are awesome. shoutout creature

[halcyon bison]

creature appreciation day

[boreal dagger]

I'm getting sorcerer art of her other form

Gotta think up potions and baubles for her to wear and make her all DND esq, thinking it would be sorta magic armor outfit with a cape and some hanging straps, maybe a women's one piece type outfit for the under outfit and than wearing stuff on top of that

[feral fulcrum]

Hmmm, I've unintentionally ripped off My Little Pony. My Wizard has become Discount Cervitaur Celestai (Deer rather then horse), and now has a Moon-aspected Counterpart. Oops.

[woven flint]

I should get art of my Warforged Pugilist one day

[boreal dagger]

Would be fun <3

[woven flint]

He absolutely rocked a Deep Knight last session and then went on to rock a Quori

Man is a menace

Haymaker is overturned as hell lol
I limit myself to once per turn and even then I don't use it often

He got a Crit haymaker and it was the nastiest damage I've seen from a singular punch lol

[woven flint]

Indeed
A robot lad abd his doggo

[boreal dagger]

If I made a war.forged, I'd want it to be made out of celestial metal and some kinda tree

[woven flint]

He's a pure metal.. . And a juggernaut unit!
Hes got the Juggernaut Plating feat from Exploring Eberron, so he might be made of Adamantine since he's immune to crits lol

[viral kraken]

i played a warforged made of wicker once. i kept a pot of soup in my torso

[onyx sluice]

Soupforged

[woven flint]

Warsouped

[fossil hollow]

isnt that just a canned ration

[strong wave]

Bubblin crude

[hot marlin]

I must admit I have never been a fan of Warforged outside Eberron

[fossil hollow]

stares at the artificer

[hot marlin]

I've mentioned my policy when I DM once or twice already

But I'm even hesitant to accept tieflings in the Forgotten Realms as PCs.

[fossil hollow]

i must not have been there

[hot marlin]

Found it, I said a long time ago that:
Everything must have a place. If you create a character in that world, your DM wants your character to be tied to this world, to play a species and a background that has a sense within that world. It's with that policy that I most identify, and that leads me to ban some species depending on the setting. No warforged outside of Eberron, no planetouched outside of Planescape unless we have a real, good idea for how it can be tied to the plot.

[vernal sand]

chat, is it normal for your party to make a sheep ascend on the first session?

[fossil hollow]

wot

[vernal sand]

dming is pretty fun tho, but gotta have less sheep next time..

[vernal sand]

oh hello timoth

[fossil hollow]

hallo

OH HEY

[vernal sand]

so basically, I sent the party on a quest to help a farmer with their wolf problem, and during combat against the wolves, one wolf tried to attack one of the sheep but got a nat 1

I decided, you know what? the sheep gets a surge of confidence and BITES BACK (doing 8 points of damage, ik it might be a bit much but its funny so its ok)

they drew some stars around it and colored it in gold, and, totally wasn't me, but a certain someone (not me) wrote "(attempting to ascend)" underneath it

[glad lagoon]

I love that for you

[fossil hollow]

so youre telling me having a wolf bite me is better than therapy

[glad lagoon]

That is not the lesson to take away from that 💀

[vernal sand]

and after combat I just made it address them, thanking them and then flying away

[vernal sand]

yes ofcourse!

[fossil hollow]

ok

time to find a wolf

[vernal sand]

everyone else is pretending that only one guy saw the whole thing, saying he was imagining it or something lol

[glad lagoon]

I love that too

[vernal sand]

I can help you, I know a spot

[rough basalt]

Why is that?

[vernal sand]

also, I don't think anyone got the reference.. but I named it shaun the sheep

[fossil hollow]

Thanks for making me feel old

[vernal sand]

me and you both..

[rough basalt]

I get the "no species outside their respective setting"

[hot marlin]

Because tieflings are in their best spot in Planescape. Because in the Forgotten Realms they feel disconnected from what the setting is about, from its history

[fossil hollow]

Wait, how about genasi

[hot marlin]

Same

[eager marsh]

How in the heck do Teiflings feel disconnected from Fearun?

[fossil hollow]

even with all their influence in calimshan?

and the whole rebellions?

[rough basalt]

I'm pretty sure Tieflings have been in FR since like Netherils time.

[hot marlin]

The genasi have indeed something going on at least

[eager marsh]

also what do you mean 'what teh setting is about' because iirc the main message of Fearun is that evil is self defeating

[hot marlin]

OK that's an interesting statement.

Evil being self defeating being the "main message" of Faerun... I'd like you to elaborate on that

[fossil hollow]

Oh god the psychology degree /j

[eager marsh]

It's a sentiment I've seen said about Faerun as a whole multiple times. in regards to teh fact that evil never really succeeds and often leads to its own downfaul or stagnation

[hot marlin]

Jarlaxle is pretty successful though. No downfall, no stagnation

[eager marsh]

i mean he's not a major evil hes just a mob boss

he isnt taking over waterdeep for example

[hot marlin]

So only major evil doesn't succeed?

[eager marsh]

evil has to actually exist and continue obviously. But it never succeeds in the fact that every single fearun adventure always reurns to a status quo. No bbeg actually wins. Szass just sits in Thay making no real progress for example. Acerreak (original) literally degraded his own mental state enough to become a demilich and be destroyed so that his own simulacrum replaced him. Halaster is mentally insane and stuck in the mountain.

[knotty vine]

700 demons eat this man

[eager marsh]

mind you I didnt come up with this sentiment myself. I'm merely offering arguments in favor of it

[hot marlin]

Well Acererak is a greyhawk character.

[eager marsh]

And he's in Faerun now so that doesnt change much

[hot marlin]

And Szass Tam succeeded in his coup and took over Thay. Thay is not progressing much in its expansion but it is being refashioned to Szass Tam's liking. I'd say things are going well for him all things considered

[woven flint]

Insert "Animals" from Maroon 5 here

[timber turtle]

I'm so hungry I could eat Azalin Rex

[hot marlin]

He's in Faerun? I mean, he dropped by once or twice for a few adventures but he still moves around a lot

[glad lagoon]

I get where you’re coming from, to a point, especially with ebberon and spelljammer

but I feel like restricting classes/races definitely isn’t for me, a plasmoid might be out of place but I feel like as a player if I was told I can’t, I’d be pretty bummed out

But that’s just me, and the campaigns I typically run/play. if it works for you and your party, then no harm no foul

I can understand not wanting a plasmoid in the middle of strahd or something like that

[eager marsh]

he can travel between other areas all he wants yes but ToA is literally his Faerun debut. But again I'm not the creator of this idea. it's just how fearun has been described in the way it presents evil factors. they are chaotic, paranoid, mistrusting, and thus have a harder time to be successful in the end and thats why a status quo exists to return to

[woven flint]

Acererak moment

[eager marsh]

fun fact: Thri-kreen are in spelljammer but are fearun natives

[hot marlin]

I suppose I can see that, yes.

[woven flint]

I think one can cull the inherent "silliness" of a species, but that also depends on the maturity of the player

[eager marsh]

if you think a plasmoid can only be 'silly' thats a creative skill issue /j

[woven flint]

I have a Tortle Knowledge Cleric
He's an Old Librarian man
Besides the concept of being a turtle librarian character, he's actually generally pretty serious, he's also typically the voice of reason in the group

Tortles, Plasmoids and Giff don't HAVE to be silly to work

[hot marlin]

It's more of a matter of relationship to the setting for me.

I want every single PC to be fully part of the setting. To not feel out of place. To have a history, a family, to be tied to the land and the culture.

I dislike PCs that are...Special. An exception to the status quo. I want them to be natural, relatively unremarkable products of their culture at first. To grow beyond it, maybe, but later.

[woven flint]

I mean, I get that to an extent, but the point of a PC is to be special, to be someone who stands out amongst their peers..
Not typically species wise, but in terms of ability and skill

[hot marlin]

Yes, in terms of ability and skill. But these are different things.

I agree, even a level 1 PC is exceptional in some way. But that way is in skill only.

[knotty vine]

Dead

[eager marsh]

i mean this suggests you'd be opposed to non-evil drow players due to those being especially unusual. or most monster races that typically arent in parties even if they had a reason

because such a thing would make them 'exceptional'

[woven flint]

I mean, to be fair, with newer lore, Non-Evil Drow aren't that unusual, they're just smaller groups

[hot marlin]

No it does not. A non-evil drow is still a natural product of the setting. It is natural that cultures have diversity. Drows have left Menzoberranzan since drows were first created. Drizzt is not unique in that regard.

[severe rampart]

I have killed 3 PCs this week

[knotty vine]

Kill more

[hot marlin]

Hell, non evil drows even have a whole religion whose main teaching is "just because we're drows doesn't mean we're bad".

[severe rampart]

Phandelver and Below is crazy

[hot marlin]

Another teaching of that religion is that dancing naked is cool. Not gonna judge.

And honestly? Yeah, it's actually kind of cool.

[glad lagoon]

I think it boils down to that last point

Cause you can make me play a human cause it’s a serious campaign. But nothing is gonna stop me from naming him “Hunter House” the restate agent in strahd if that’s what I really want to do

Unless you kick me out

But if you explain to me that, that isn’t the vibe of the campaign, then I’ll more than likely respect it

But at this point I’m hashing a different point

[severe rampart]

my players rolled stats for their backup, someone has 5 Wisdom

[severe rampart]

now there's two of them who have 5 wisdom...

[glad lagoon]

It’s Zenith!(my Drow)

[severe rampart]

Finished running my Phandelver Session, I managed to get through it! 😭

[woven flint]

My drow is also a non-evil fellow

[hot marlin]

By now we see so many non evil drows that I need to see evil drow PCs

You'd think the evil drows are the persecuted minority in drow society

[woven flint]

My drow has potential to become an evil person dw

[limpid wadi]

Summoning all fellow gays 🏳️‍🌈✨

[hot marlin]

Gay evil drows. Yay

Be gay, do crime. As a drow.

[limpid wadi]

Yassss

[severe rampart]

Preach

[woven flint]

But my Drow is Aro/Ace smh

[fiery nimbus]

Sounds like its time to pull out the Diviniation Wizard "luck your way through the life" with those stats

[hot marlin]

I just now noticed that I've played multiple characters whose sexual orientation can be expressed as "political marriage sexual"

[fossil hollow]

pfffft

[severe rampart]

Lmao what did I just read

[woven flint]

Only one of my characters is married and this describes him well lol

[hot marlin]

By which I mean characters whose only romantic interest is getting a good political marriage to fuel their ambitions.

[fiery nimbus]

Oh so thats the "political" sexuality everyone was talking about

[woven flint]

Hes married due to politics but he actually loves his wife

[severe rampart]

Arranged married but they actually have chemistry and consent

[fossil hollow]

Childhood Friend

[fiery nimbus]

That's just Marriage

[severe rampart]

Yum

Love that

[fiery nimbus]

Better yet, they are bitter rivals that somehow end up together

and through being forced to work together they develope feeligns for each others

[severe rampart]

they are bitter rivals... who are childhood friends that somehow end up together

[fiery nimbus]

By the gods, where do i sign

Anyway, our entire party has backstories hinting at everyone one of us wanting to adventure to grab trinkets, but we also established that we want to play heros and this time random NPC won't end up cannibalized due to our sheer incompetence

[ripe nimbus]

I think banning species/races that don't fit the tone of the setting is fine, especially if it's your own home campaign setting. If you're making your own campaign setting, you might, say, want to think about how each species relates with each other and what their position in the world is, and as the number of different species in the setting explodes it gets combinatorially unwieldy

[fiery nimbus]

i had a DM that banned humans , it was a fun campaign

[ripe nimbus]

In pre-published settings it's a little less so I think bc that work is usually done for you

[fossil hollow]

I know for my setting campaign im gonna be running in several months i have a locked list:

Ruleset. This is a 2024 Campaign. Allowed content is PHB, Bigby, Book of Many Things, Fizban, Tasha, and Xanathar Subclasses from Heroes of Faerun are allowed. None of the bestial species from Mordenkainen's Monsters of the Multiverse are also allowed (exceptions are Lizardfolk & Yuan-ti). Species from this book that got reprinted in Eberron are also allowed, as well as the Artificer class.

Funnily enough, no beastmen for this one

[severe rampart]

Woah

[fossil hollow]

they didnt exist yet, cuz the experiements that started them didnt exist

[fiery nimbus]

that sucks

[severe rampart]

Mongrelfolk?

[ripe nimbus]

why does it suck?

[fossil hollow]

hm?

[fiery nimbus]

I always play beastman, ergo i wouldn't play at that table due to difference in expectations

[severe rampart]

Are beastmen just mongrelfolk?

[ripe nimbus]

Sure, it's fine if you just don't want to play at the table

[fossil hollow]

Beastmen is my umbrella term for all the animal races. Harengon, Tortle, Lizardfolk, Shifter, etc

[ripe nimbus]

I like planetouched PCs, so I probably wouldn't play in incubus' game

[severe rampart]

Oh, thanks!

I'm pretty sure Shifters are in the Forge of The Artificer though

[ripe nimbus]

but I don't think it sucks that they don't allow tieflings

[fossil hollow]

They still fall under bestial species

[ripe nimbus]

The rule was races in MMM that are reprinted in Eberron are OK, I think, not that all Eberron races are okay

[severe rampart]

Ohh my bad, I misread it, seems cool

[fiery nimbus]

I do, but at the same time my protests litterally hold no water since I do not play at thier table anyway

[severe rampart]

yeah, had to reread it several times, more times than I'd like to admit

[fossil hollow]

I do think its worded a bit weirdly

[ripe nimbus]

but why do you think it sucks? @fiery nimbus

[fossil hollow]

Master is a beastmen main

[ripe nimbus]

like I get that you want to play them but some settings just don't have beastman races

[fossil hollow]

^

[glad lagoon]

Wait same wtheck

[ripe nimbus]

right but they seem to mean something more objective

[woven flint]

Woah

[fiery nimbus]

My last 3 characters were

Plasmoid
Centaur
Merfolk

[fossil hollow]

Do plasmoid count as beastman?

[woven flint]

No

[fossil hollow]

are we counting amoebas as beasts?

[ripe nimbus]

not rly but I'm trying to imagine a DM who'd say yes to plasmoids but no to beastmen

[fossil hollow]

one whose tired of furries

[ripe nimbus]

lol

[fiery nimbus]

Bring in the Scalies

[ripe nimbus]

For beastmen in my own games I'd feel better abt having a single (maybe fairly customizable) beastman race in a setting than a separate one for each animal

Ive considered allowing EFA shifters only for example

[fiery nimbus]

I had a blast at the table where the DM banned Humans tbh

[fossil hollow]

i tried making a catch all beastman species, but i ended up not liking it due to it feeling im missing a lot of the nuance/fun tidbits from specific animals

[ripe nimbus]

yeah fair enough

[fossil hollow]

The animal kingdom is just. Too varied to put them all into one package imo

[hot marlin]

Mantis Shrimp folks!

[ripe nimbus]

I think for me I just like a neat small list of races for players to pick from and to be able to think abt in worldbuilding

[hot marlin]

Blue Ringed Octopus people!

[fiery nimbus]

If you try to make a catch all, it usually ends up appealing to non at all

[glad lagoon]

College of Swords Drow who worships Eilistraee and aspires to become a Sword Dancer

(My dm is letting me flavor her a “Paladin” at later levels)

[fossil hollow]

I actually have a crustacean species

[ripe nimbus]

Every Single Species From Every Single Book is just too difficult to worldbuild around

[fossil hollow]

with mantis and pistol shrimp as subspecies

[woven flint]

Celestial Warlock of Elistraee here

[fossil hollow]

Carzinifolk

[fiery nimbus]

is it Sahuagin

https://www.dndbeyond.com/species/2088745-sahuagin

[fossil hollow]

Sharks arent Crustaceans

[glad lagoon]

The best part is another Drow is in the party and neither of us know what god the other worships

[ripe nimbus]

idk I've been reading Delicious in Dungron and I really like the depth of the worldbuilding around the races in that manga. And it's something I don't think Ryoko Kui could've done if she tried to make it an endless kitchen sink of 1000 different intelligent races

Similarly for Tolkien, too

[woven flint]

Whaaat? Are you telling me having thousands of intelligent species can start making lore a bit incoherent??? /silly

[hot marlin]

Oh there is a way to make it coherent. Just limit their geographic/historical scope.

For example, consider all the intelligent underwater things. Consider: Something that evolved to live in salt water won't deal well with a lake. Something that lives in the midnight zone won't live in the twilight zone, something that lives near the surface won't approach anywhere near the deep trenches.

Lakes, rivers, oceans. Cold, warmth. Depth. All factors that would change a lot of things.

And that's not even approaching the true complexity of underwater living.

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, hidden and extinct civilizations are also a thing. My dinosaur species is hidden underneath a volcanic area in the dormant vents and tunnels, and the bugkin got almost wiped out by a spell gone wrong

[hot marlin]

Consider the underdark too! A very smart thing Pathfinder did was divide its underdark into three levels. Stuff that lives in the first level, closest to the surface, is very, very different from the stuff in the deepest level.

[fossil hollow]

then theres also any other extraplanar space you got

[hot marlin]

Essentially I think the trick to having a lot of species is to make them very inhuman in their way of life.

[fossil hollow]

Like Gith living in the Astral plane or Limbo for the most part

[hot marlin]

And yeah, I think just saying "orcs" is worthless. Which orcs? The roaming orcs of the mountains are different from the orcs of the desert. An orcish city built on a cliffside will give you a very different vibe from a giant fortified keep.

There are species, yes. But then those species also have different nations.

[fossil hollow]

mhmm. Not sure why humans are typically the ones with mutiple

sweats in commiting the same thing

[hot marlin]

And even within a nation, there are nuances. A given state can have a sedentary population and a nomadic population. That is actually very common

[hot marlin]

In the early Forgotten Realms, the reason was that non-human people were on the decline. Elves were leaving for the West, Dwarves lost much territory, halflings and gnomes were becoming isolationist... Giving way to a world of man.

[fossil hollow]

... oh theres my cop out

[hot marlin]

But remember that it was a theme of the Forgotten Realms.

The world was on a decline.

[severe rampart]

... ✍️ ... Mhm...

[hot marlin]

A slow decline that could be considered to have started with the fall of Myth Drannor.

[still plover]

A crude but quick fix: take the human cultures detailed here and apply them en masse.

[severe rampart]

I suppose I can spend my free time creating my world while waiting for my phandelver and strahd sessions, this is great

Oh god I'm going to be a forever DM

[fossil hollow]

... im thinking about running a dale game... the ideas are flowing now

[hot marlin]

OK yes but... Damn is that part written like racialist science of the 19th to early 20th century

Seriously, imagine if you found something that described, I don't know, Egyptians as "shorter and slighter in build than most other humans, with dusky brown skin, hair and eyes"

I find it a bit... Disconcerting that the more non-white an ethnicity is, the more the chapter gives them diversity in appearance.

The Illuskan get to have raven-black hair, but also blond, red and light brown. The Calishite are just universally short with dark skin, brown hair and eyes.

[ripe nimbus]

same with Tolkien almost beat for beat

down to the direction the Elves are leaving

[hot marlin]

Western Fantasy grappling with the giant ghost of Tolkien. Nothing new under the sun.

[still plover]

Mount Fuji.

[tawdry sentinel]

I quite like the elves at our LGS.

They do have their dominant region that people will be travelling from, and that has settlements that are primarily elves.

But for the most part elves that choose to live elsewhere up sticks and move every 50 years or so. Holding a funeral for themselves and giving away almost everything they own to the townsfolk. Nominally to avoid the depression that comes with watching others be born, live a full life, and die, while you're untouched by the ravages of time.

[clear ridge]

Yo I just got kicked from a campaign without even being told why
They just kicked me before the first session even started and all I said was I was gonna base my character of a fisherman 😭

[severe rampart]

Sorry to hear that

[ripe nimbus]

I'm pretty sure almost all real world ethnicities have dark hair and eyes as the majority

or hair, at least

and that most of the variation in hair color is in how big a minority light colored hair is

there are definitely populations irl with dark skin and light hair though (it's a reasonably common combo in Melanesia I think)

[clear ridge]

They blocked me from both main and alt....
Idk if it was something I said cuz all I said was I'm gonna play a semi-support kinda to support the party in non-combat so I played a scout rogue......
Told em if they wanted me to change anything I'm pretty flexible and that I don't mind 😭

[ripe nimbus]

but I really don't think anything sinister is meant or should be read into the descriptions

[clear ridge]

Made a character sheet for nothing ;-;

[errant crag]

Well gang it's finally happened

I've gotten my first TPK

They all died in the dungeon of shadows to a Giant Spider and a Demogorgon Spawn

[fossil hollow]

eyyy

[fair summit]

Definitely sucks, though it could've been any number of reasons, which only they know, so better to not dwell on something you really can't get answers to and move on, hopefully look for a better game. Also a bullet dodged, really. That block could've come sooner or later, so before the game is honestly the best case scenario where you haven't put as much work into the game yet 😎

Could've also just been the DM blocking everyone when they changed their mind about the game and not just you. That sorta thing does happen occasionally enough

[clear ridge]

Yea I guess...

Kinda thought they thought my character was a gag character even tho it wasn't 🥺
It's a fisherman who started adventuring as a side gig and lost his friend to some cultists (which like is the campaigns main enemy)

[glossy otter]

So, hows everyone tonight?

[vapid tangle]

Yo, guys, I bought some dice from TEMU do you think they're good or bad??

[severe rampart]

I've never used TEMU in my life, but I know their rep

[glossy otter]

Couldn't say, though I know it's 50/50

[vapid tangle]

So some of them are and some others aren't??

Has anyone bought???

[boreal prism]

Just had my second dm session and in true d&d fashion, the players prevented the boss fight from happening

[glossy otter]

its just a matter of luck with temu

[fair summit]

Bought a few sets at some point, and got no complaints. Could have just gotten lucky, due to the sets I picked being more simple 😛

[severe rampart]

This is why improv is a neat lil thing

[vapid tangle]

Ok thanks👍

[hot marlin]

It's dice. So long as it's balanced, who cares?

[glossy otter]

Eh, I'd argue the quality but that is a solid point

[boreal prism]

Half of the session was a bit of improv.
It's how we got the parrot Unsinkable Mortie

[rough basalt]

Quality I'd say matters only if you spend substantial money on them.

[hot marlin]

The quality of a dice is measured exclusively in how well it rolls and how balanced it is.

[glossy otter]

Agreed, it might just be my experience with buying items

[vapid tangle]

Dice are luck so doesn't matter...
I'll do a salt test though😆

[glossy otter]

Though it might just be my market mentality. If they look good, and you liked them, who am I to complain

though it may also be because I'm suspicious of Temu

[rough basalt]

Always be suspicious of Temu imo

[glad lagoon]

kinda that lol, and I guess in a similar vein the feel

some plastic dice just feel worse than others, but that's preference

same with metal dice... I don't know how to explain it

[vapid tangle]

I will also buy better quality, just bought them to have more

[rough basalt]

My mom and her bf order off of there and her bf got this little handheld baby chainsaw that's basically a joke

[glad lagoon]

plus I'm a dice goblin who wants their dice to match their character

[rough basalt]

It's actually pretty good for hiking and tree trimming

[glossy otter]

I just wait for returns to get ravenloft dice

[rough basalt]

But it's got a junk battery

[glossy otter]

That does remind me, I'm hyped for the return of Sithicus

[vapid tangle]

I just bought the player's handbook also...
I am a new player do u have any advice???

[glad lagoon]

"hey dm could I borrow some dice for the session?"

"sure"

"ooooooh, these aren't red and black metal dice... can we just not play today??"

[glossy otter]

#dnd-newcomers should be able to help with beginning dnd, but welcome to the community

[glad lagoon]

I love my Hellforge Hexbreaker set, even if they are impossible to read

[glossy otter]

I still love my phyrexian d20

[vapid tangle]

Tnx i just wanted to...
U know have a conversation with advanced players if u had some tips but ok🥀

[glossy otter]

I cant read it for hell, but it looks great

[vapid tangle]

Wdym?

[glossy otter]

I mean it's not to push you out of here, you're still welcome to be part of the convo

[glossy otter]

it's not legible unless you know Phyrexian from MTG

[vapid tangle]

Ok...

[glad lagoon]

I can’t read the numbers, but it sure looks cool

[glossy otter]

It was only available in one in every 60 prerelease boxes

[glad lagoon]

is there a photos chat, I'd love to see em

[glossy otter]

I don't have any photos of them (and I think it's in my dice pack) but it should be out there. Pardon my dice gush

[glad lagoon]

please, the Math Rocks are my favorite part of DnD discourse

[glossy otter]

Man it's been a long time since I've done irl dnd

[glad lagoon]

Same, I have a bunch of tokens for my bard and then I only play online with friends lol

[glossy otter]

Last time I played irl was in a cafe. Great times but a shame it didn't last long

[glad lagoon]

I live in a small town so unfortunatly there's not alot of options

[cinder timber]

Irl dnd hits different for sure

[glad lagoon]

yo what the heck, you and my Drow have the same name lol

[cinder timber]

It's the Zenith of names

[glossy otter]

Found a place not too far where I live where it's $35 a year to rent the room so I might try to utilize that for my next college semester

[cinder timber]

Har har har

[glad lagoon]

it truly is, I lean into the whole "hero complex ego/I'm better than you/I am the greatest swordsman of all time" thing alot

[harsh oxide]

I really like overconfidence stuff, it’s always fun to see how long it takes til the character falls victim to it

[severe rampart]

Yum

[glad lagoon]

I specifically asked my DM to eventually humble her because I love that trope so much

[severe rampart]

I watched a campaign, the player did an amazing job when his character lost a hand, turned from confident "hero in the making" Into pathetic "I actually lost a hand, I lost a hand"

His voice even changed

[glossy otter]

Gotta love those moments

[severe rampart]

I've been enjoying watching more campaigns with heavy roleplay, this one had two sessions of straight up roleplay

[glad lagoon]

or more specifically "she think's she's the best, and she's certainly talented, but she could afford to be knocked down a peg"

[harsh oxide]

Agreed, I think the “Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer” quote sums up how it should be handled

[woven flint]

I just Aura farmed on an Archhag by absorbing the damage she did to me completely :]

[severe rampart]

Hm... Thinking... Monk?

[woven flint]

Nope
Third party magic item called the Abjurers Bangle
Its very rare, has a pool of 75 hp and i can use a reaction to have it take damage for me.. from one attack per round

[harsh oxide]

Like as in one attack on a CD or a single use

[glad lagoon]

agreed, also due to the context of the campaign, I tossed in a little always looking for a fight in order to give her as many opportunities to be humbled as possible

[woven flint]

Its destroyed when it reaches 0 hp, but im an Artificer and its ond of my infusions 🧐

[woven flint]

Its.. not a channel divinity?

[harsh oxide]

Cool down

[woven flint]

One attack per round because i only have 1 reaction per round lol

[harsh oxide]

Oh that makes sense

[severe rampart]

Holy hell that is aura farming

0 damage taken from an Archhag

[woven flint]

It would've been 38 damage, but i schmooved it

[vapid tangle]

Yo are u guys really playing

Howww from discord???

[severe rampart]

#find-a-game has instructions.

[harsh oxide]

This is just a discussion

[strong wave]

What does flat footed mean

[woven flint]

Im playing in a friends server and we're using dnd beyond lol

We dont host games in this server

[vapid tangle]

I mean i know how to play but u talking about damage and stuff

[severe rampart]

When your... feet are flat? just guessing

[harsh oxide]

The foot has an arch, the whole foot normally shouldn’t touch the ground, so if the middle does you have flat feet

[strong wave]

But it's a status effect

[woven flint]

I think they meant the status condition lol

[severe rampart]

That's a condition?!!

[strong wave]

Maybe in older editions

[woven flint]

Flatfooted is a condition from Older editions of D&D and Pathfinder in general
I know what it does in Pathfinder but not D&D

[vapid tangle]

Prob the same

[woven flint]

Off-gaurd, essentially, easier to hit

[vapid tangle]

As it means the same

[strong wave]

What does it even mean lol you just stepped extremely flat for a moment and got rocked??

[severe rampart]

I'm being terrorized by mosquitos, that's it, I gotta make a mosquito boss for my next session...

[woven flint]

No, it means you're off-guard or being flanked

[strong wave]

They should called it that

[severe rampart]

What's a word for being flanked

[harsh oxide]

You can be caught flat-footed, it’s not a common saying for it though

[feral fulcrum]

Flanked

[vapid tangle]

Asdx fr

[severe rampart]

I-... it's 5 am in the morning, cut me some slack

[harsh oxide]

Looked it up, it’s a status for those who haven’t moved yet during combat, you loose dex bonus to AC and can’t make attacks of opportunity

[fast latch]

It’s 5:09 PM in NJ, we live on the Exact opposite sides of the world

[halcyon bison]

hi everyone :3

[lavish flame]

Flat-Footed was a kind of Armor Class you had that was exclusively based on armor and not dexterity. There was also Touch AC which was exclusively Dexterity based and didnt factor in any armor you wore. Some effects targeted specific ACs.

[fast latch]

Hi

[lavish flame]

Its no longer a feature in 5e, Touch and Flat-Footed AC. Its basically been replaced with Saving Throws.

And even then, Saving Throws have always been a thing

[strong wave]

That's rough

[harsh oxide]

That’s for 3.5 though, which version are you talking about just to make sure

[strong wave]

3.5 I just assumed 5e still had it

[cerulean monolith]

That seems like one thing from older editions that can’t be abstracted into a 5e mechanic. The other ACs are really just a different way of resolving save effects but I can’t think of a modern feature that resolves that niche

[severe rampart]

If I jump, will there be an earthquake down there? Curious

[flint ledge]

I don't imagine you're heavy enough to cause such a thing

[lavish flame]

Yeah, I can't think of a way to do it in 5e that doesnt immediately muddy the difference between saving throws and AC

[harsh oxide]

You could of kind of do it with the status instead of the armor class itself, give attacks to the effected advantage, and stop reactions/attacks of opportunity, I don’t see that being that interesting AC wise because high dex means you’ll be pretty high in initiative in the first place. I can see it being used against enemies, could feel unfair against a party though

[strong wave]

Old Godzilla was hoppin around, Tokyo city like a big playground....

[icy ember]

I'm going to be running a hag coven and I'm going to use their lair action where the trees grab the party members and try to trap them. What should I have the party roll in order to avoid it. I don't know if a strength saving throw would be better or rolling some kind of skill check to avoid being grabbed in the first place

[strong wave]

Dex or str

[icy ember]

Saving throw?

[harsh oxide]

Let’s not get a-“head” here, but I guess when life give you “lemons”, you make a reference

[strong wave]

That lemons a demon

[harsh oxide]

It’s been so long I thought was lemon head, dang

Dagnabbit

[strong wave]

Foiled again!

[harsh oxide]

This is kind off-topic but yall really not use “yall” outside the south

[lavish flame]

If they're truly just objects that are dangerous and supposed to be avoided, then I'd make it a saving throw

[icy ember]

Y'all is universal (I'm Southern)

[lavish flame]

If they're like... living trees, I'd just use a Treant or Tree Blight or Awakened Tree

[icy ember]

I'm thinking about dex to avoid getting grabbed, and if they are grabbed, making a strength saving throw every turn to get out

[harsh oxide]

Met some people from Iowa, they were confused but that’s also Iowa

[icy ember]

Iowa isn't real

It's like Ohio

[lavish flame]

Y'all is actually seeing a surge of usage amongst people for whom English is a second language. Many other languages feature a plural second-person pronoun, but English does not natively. Y'all is our current best approximation.

[strong wave]

I use y'all and I'ma. Yankee

[icy ember]

This is what unity looks like

[chilly coyote]

Hi, The DM I played with used my character during my absance and took choices without my consent.

[strong wave]

It's good english

[icy ember]

Y'all is such a useful word

[strong wave]

Y'all = you all

[stuck shuttle]

That's unfortunate, did you talk to them about it?

[sly crest]

Ha, it was very tempting to use y'all when translating the second-person plural when I took latin in school

[strong wave]

I can't finish making my level 6 fighter because I don't know what talents to take

[lavish flame]

As far as I'm concerned, it is the only approximate in contemporary English

[chilly coyote]

He didn't say anything about it, and the players told me about this situation

[candid solar]

The base answer would be Dex to avoid and Strength to break out. But there's another answer, the crueler answer. Have the hags do something to the party before the fight, offer them a token while disguised or some sort of food. Whoever in the party takes that token or eats that food gets disadvantage on that particular roll

[strong wave]

You're telling me Caesar was a country boy?

[rugged verge]

What's the weapon of choice and do you have anything already?

[jolly canyon]

there is levels to this. using your char in combat to make it easier to balance is one thing. did they use any of your limited items, cause any negative effects like curse. make any story based decisions on your behalf? essentially did anything change mechanically or story wise to your character

[strong wave]

You'd have to be crazy to eat hag food unless it looks really really goood

Like those two German kids and that candy house

Hansel and gretel

I wonder if the food would prompt a wisdom roll

[mighty oriole]

Which channel do I ask help for my charcter

[idle oar]

#character-discussion or #optimization depending on what you're focussing on

[candid solar]

Oh yeah that's why you wouldn't know its a hag to begin with. They can disguise themselves and rightly do because no one would trust a green hag if she was just there in front of you offering something. But if its, say a minion or a kindly old woman they'd be more agreeable

[stuck shuttle]

Like with what Taz said, there's some nuance to the situation. Of course you should bring up using your character without your consent since it made you uncomfortable, regardless of if the choices were beneficial or detrimental to your character.

[mighty oriole]

The character goal and conflict as the dm said

[fast latch]

I have a Hag character who doesn’t disguise herself

Her name is Auntie Greenthumb and she’s Neutral Good and has levels in Oath of Redemption Paladin

[idle oar]

So perhaps a backstory that helps frame why your character is adventuring? Then yeah #character-discussion would be perfect for that.

[mighty oriole]

Thanks man

[icy ember]

I love this, and the party will hate it, thank you lmao

[final goblet]

reminds me of the hag from BG3 except you turned her into a good person

[candid solar]

Hags typically are tricky and jerks, and their magic is weird. So you should make mechanics in their fight to reflect that. Using lair actions or actual battle mechanics based off character choices before the fight are good ways to do that.

[strong wave]

I thought hag was just a monster stat block

[fallen thicket]

Hey, what's the name of that weapon that increases damage by 2d6 with any weapon type? I think it's a rare rarity weapon.

[strong wave]

How can she be a paladin

[halcyon bison]

stat blocks are just suggestions

[rugged verge]

most i can think of is flame tongue weapons

2d6 fire damage for a couple weapons

[halcyon bison]

also any intelligent creature can theoretically have class levels

[fallen thicket]

It's similar to that one, but it increases the weapon's original damage by 2d6.

[candid solar]

You can make an npc into whatever you want. Some people take inspiration from existing stats and subclasses to determine their abilities to make them unique and memorable. Really its just whatever you want them to do.

Hags are good examples of this, their base stats don't really reflect how weird and manipulative they can be so most people embellish

[chilly coyote]

Well they sold my character soul probably for an item for other character or for gold. It changes definitely story wise due to lack of soul and it may change mechanically depending on DM further use of it and interpretation. I can send screenshots.

[rugged verge]

I think the only thing that matches this is giant slayer weapons

[strong wave]

Is it boring to make a human fivhter

[stuck shuttle]

No need to send anything. The fact that they performed a major character event without your knowledge or consent isn't a nice thing to do. It's definitely something to bring up and work with them to reverse or (ideally) retcon

[stuck shuttle]

Not at all. Characters are more than their sheet, how you roleplay them matters a lot in making them interesting

[halcyon bison]

only if you make it boring! any character can be interesting if you play them right

[candid solar]

That's a massive character choice that you should have been there to make, you should definetly bring that up

[unkempt atlas]

So, quick thing ive been coming to the slow realization of. If me and my party have to fight the adult red dragon thats actively hunting down my character, I have no idea how we are gonna do it. One of the party members suggested the power of friendship will succeed 😭

[chilly coyote]

I decided not to play with them, because this situation seemed like a violation of the server's rules. That's why I'm writing about it.

[fair summit]

It's not the class/race combination that will determine how interesting a character will be. Yeah the features might affect it gameplay -wise, but the bigger thing will be actually the character itself

Any character that relies on the class/race combo being the main interesting part of the character is probably gonna be whole lot less interesting than a human fighter with actual fun characteristics, goals and a backstory

[lavish flame]

Not sure what else to call most people in his time

[fair goblet]

Does someone in the party have Bless? Because that’s basically The Power of Friendship

[lavish flame]

Your species or class will not make your more interesting than your writing allows. A Human Fighter can be an absolutely excellent character (Finn the Human, Batman, Luke Skywalker, etc.) if they're written interestingly.

[woven flint]

Adventure Time mentioned

[wet bison]

its a violation of trust in a dm. first off no dm should make the decision to sell a players soul if they are not even at the table. for me that is a large redflag in the dm. im not sure about others.

[hot marlin]

So the question can be: What makes a character interesting?

In truth, it's not the character themselves.

There have been Batman stories where Batman was boring.

What makes a character interesting is how they place themselves in the story.

[strong wave]

Is there a 5.5 character creator

[undone bloom]

D&DBeyond

[woven flint]

D&Dbeyond

I'm quick on the draw 🔫

[fossil hollow]

DNDBeyond currently supports both 5e and 5.5

[strong wave]

That's gotta be like 100 bucks for both

[glossy otter]

I just had a thought, with both Strixhaven and now Hexhaven, i wonder if we'll see anything new for it this year

[idle oar]

There is a free tier for up to 6 characters but to access more than free/SRD character materials, you'd need to buy the books.

A subscription unlocks unlimited characters (but it does not buy books)

[chilly coyote]

In the session, players sold my soul for an item or money. And the dm didn't say no. The players said that "there is no consent here" After the session

[strong wave]

How much do the DND beyond version cost

[fair goblet]

$0.00

[severe rampart]

Nightmare table you found yourself in

[idle oar]

Free to use. Susbscription to unlock unlimited character slots. $ to buy books.

[wet bison]

even if it doesnt violate server rules a violation in trust was made. I would personaly not go back and try to find a new one

[strong wave]

How much do the books cost on DND beyond I mean

[idle oar]

Can look it up here: https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/

[wet bison]

the prices very from book to book

[fossil hollow]

typically 35 bucks

[severe rampart]

I've been thinking of getting Forge of The Artificer

[crystal star]

"there is no consent here" run run run away as fast as you can oh my god

[severe rampart]

As a nice little treat to myself on my birthday

[wet bison]

i have it shared to me from one of my friends i play with. its quite interesting to read through

[fair goblet]

The basic rules are free though, and you absolutely can build a human fighter with just that

[severe rampart]

Indeed

[strong wave]

What's that

[severe rampart]

The forge of the artificer /j

It's the book that has the updated Changelings and Artificers

[idle oar]

It's a book that was recently published

[severe rampart]

I don't care much about the other content, just Changelings and artificers

It is around 1000 here though, currency conversion can make a product look expensive

[fair goblet]

If you want more Fighter options but don’t want to spring for the full Player’s Handbook, there’s the Fighter Starter Pack for $4.99

[severe rampart]

That's not a thing anymore, I don't think

[chilly coyote]

It just seemed like a horasment or sexism to me because I'm a woman.And I played a female character. I was the only woman there

[glossy otter]

Al la carte's gone

[severe rampart]

Damn, I would've loved that

[severe rampart]

Oof. Sorry to hear that.

[glossy otter]

yeah, thats a huge red flag

[fair goblet]

https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/BB-2026-StarterPacks-Apr/P3F2XME?pid=DSP3F2XME

[glossy otter]

I hate that despite best attempts to purge it we still see those kinds of stories out there

[crystal star]

It is, it probably is, and yeah thats probably why. D&D is about having fun with friends. If youre feeling genuinely uncomfortable and despite bringing it up they just double down then make like a cherry blossom and float away

[fast latch]

I give levels to monsters sometimes

[wet bison]

is it okay if i dm you

[chilly coyote]

Yea sure

[strong wave]

Is 5e books cheaper

Ok DND beyond

On*

[harsh oxide]

I’m just chiming in, a bit out of loop so apologies if I’m wrong, if it’s friends you should probably just talk to them, it’s very easy to be in the moment do something without much thought for how it comes across, it could legitimately be sexism or could just be them being oblivious/stupid. probably depends how well you know them and how comfortable they are with you

[fast latch]

Run like hell

[idle oar]

The digital books on D&DBeyond or Roll20 or Foundry, or Fantasy Grounds, are cheaper then the printed books (printing and shipping are expensive).

[glossy otter]

Getting more context on this story, yeah. It'd be best to abandon it and look for a new campaign

[crystal star]

She tried that

[harsh oxide]

Okay then it’s an issue of them then

[glossy otter]

Also, doesn't soul collecting in dnd often need the consent of the person who's soul is on offer

[fast latch]

Yes, 30 bucks digital versus 60 physical (At least in the USA)

[harsh oxide]

Eh, if you don’t have much liquid do as a pirate and buy when you can

[severe rampart]

It's fun when a creature has a few levels in a class

[limber trail]

I give them a couple iconic features like reliable talent or sneak attack usually

[severe rampart]

Riposte

[fast latch]

I did kind of give two dragons 20 levels in a class on two separate occasions

Red with Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer, Amethyst with Eldritch Knight Fighter

[rugged verge]

i like the idea of it having access to the whole sorc list and the terrifying idea that an adult red dragon suddenly casts haste on itself

[glossy otter]

when people forget dragons can cast spells too

[mighty wharf]

Oh my god why does Bane require concentration that's so stinky

Oh it affects attack rolls, uh

Still gross that it requires concentration.

[reef tundra]

It would be pretty strong if it didn’t

A level 1 spell that you just pop and for a minute straight, enemies have a penalty to all attacks and saving throws, no upkeep, nothing they can do about it once it happens, done

[severe rampart]

Also it's the opposite of bless

[lavish flame]

Yeah I'd even suggest itd be a guranteed choice at the start of most combats if it werent Conc

[fast latch]

I took Teleport and Meteor Swarm

[severe rampart]

Meteor Swarm!