dnd-discussion

[peak pecan]

They specifically have to ask for her to do anything else; she’s basically the D&D movie Paladin

[rough basalt]

Ah Xenk. The DMPC of the movie

[humble cairn]

So she's an NPC.

[woven flint]

DMPC's can be detrimental if players aren't allowed to learn from their mistakes imo

[balmy juniper]

Wait : there's a DND movie.

[rough basalt]

A couple

[shrewd juniper]

what I've been doing is having my pc (as DM because I like DnD but the rest of the people I play with can't dm at all...) stick back and not influence any decisions. I'm effectively just there for combat.

[reef tundra]

Yup! It’s great imo!

[shrewd juniper]

not just one

[balmy juniper]

Where is it.

[rough basalt]

Honor Among Thieves is the generally good one.

[viral kraken]

there are a couple!

[rough basalt]

It's on Netflix.

[viral kraken]

and a show!

[lavish flame]

there's like 4, the one from 2023 is the only one worth watching

[uncut zenith]

It’s worth noting that Xenk was designed to poke fun at how DMPCs can be disruptive in a D&D campaign. Like… he’s “too good” and “too well-informed”.

[umbral girder]

I did a DMPC once recently because my players and I did a one shot as bad guys in Hell.

After the fact a player brought up the characters as possible big bads in the campaign. So I made those characters the level 20 bosses.

[balmy juniper]

What's it calldd

[rough basalt]

The DnD movie from the early 2000s I think is on Tubi.

[umbral girder]

The boss fights before Tiamat

[rough basalt]

Which that one iirc is pretty bad but it's there

[lavish flame]

Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Amongst Thieves is on Paramount+ apparently.

[viral kraken]

Honor Among Thieves is the good one

[umbral girder]

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves

[rough basalt]

It's on Netflix too

[balmy juniper]

Are there any in the feywild

[woven flint]

DMPC havers when they realize that every NPC by technicality is their pc

[umbral girder]

No

[peak pecan]

An NPC with a character sheet; the second they go a separate way from her I’m using the Priest statblock

[lavish flame]

nah, Feywild is a relatively new concept for D&D

[reef tundra]

One of my groups enjoy and encourage me to have a DMPC for my campaigns for them, they say it’s like I’m playing alongside them, like they wish they could, but we can’t find a DM that suits us so this is the closest I can get. And even then I do my utmost to avoid doing all the bad things that DMPCs do

[rough basalt]

DnD movies are also pretty sparse compared to other media

[woven flint]

Why not just do that from the start?

[umbral girder]

I believe the Feywild was a 4e thing like the Shadowfell right?

[lavish flame]

I mean, you could say those Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland movies are Feywild movies

[humble cairn]

Mmm yeah, I don't like it.

[rough basalt]

I believe so

[uncut zenith]

It’s also why he wasn’t in the movie for very long

[umbral girder]

It took over the Plane of Faerie and Plane of Shadow I think.

[rough basalt]

Xenk was pretty funny

[peak pecan]

I’m mainly leaning toward the comedic aspect of her being the only Lawful Good character in the entire party

[lavish flame]

Feywild is a 4e-ism that is also in 5e

[limber trail]

You know my party is meeting with a bunch of artificers in the next couple sessions

[reef tundra]

I loved Xenk

[peak pecan]

Fair enough

[reef tundra]

It’s not my paladin bias I promise

[balmy juniper]

Favourite Plane?

[woven flint]

Billy Joe the Kobold Artificer from SPACE!!! .. (supposedly)

[limber trail]

Plane of Air it’s so sick

[reef tundra]

Hell

[umbral girder]

Material plane

[balmy juniper]

Feywild personally.

[umbral girder]

Because the Material plane is where majority of the lore and plots show up

[balmy juniper]

BoRiNg

[umbral girder]

Yikes

[jolly canyon]

My team said the same but I had to explain that my char would have no agency since I know all the puzzles and encounter. Might as well just have am npc at that point lol

[woven flint]

I'm a fan of the Abyss.
I enjoy me a Primordial Moshpit.

Me omw to Baphomets layer to do a silly
(I will seduce him.)

[viral kraken]

my party finally completed their spelljammer after 2+ years and i think they are heading to the feywild next

[rough basalt]

Spelljammer for 2 years? You're a legend

[peak pecan]

More like a madman

[woven flint]

Imagine having a Moshpit in the Abyss
And now imagine the number of casualties

[rough basalt]

WotCs greatest opp

There's nothing WotC fears more than a DM who runs spelljammer

[reef tundra]

My next online campaign will be spelljammer, I’m still just making notes

[lavish flame]

Eberron's Lamannia, The Twilight Forest is my favorite. Its a nature plane (with megafauna/flora at that), but every description they had for it in Exploring Eberron had me hooked. There was text comparing an airship stuck in a massive tree to a child's toy having been discarded by wind. It was very evocative to me, so I love that plane.

[rough basalt]

Since spelljammer 5e was specifically design just to make you go run an FR adventure. They fear the power to run a Spelljammer game regardless.

[jolly canyon]

I hope I get to use some of those planes from EE

[woven flint]

I have an important question for everyone...

Devils, Yugolotha or Demons
Which group is your favorite? 🧐

And why is it Demons?

[uncut zenith]

Yugoloths my beloved

[lavish flame]

Demodands not even included :'(

[umbral girder]

I like the material plane mainly for the dragons and it’s way easier to explain why every creature is there.

[umbral girder]

Devils

[woven flint]

Nope, I'm talking the main 3

[umbral girder]

They have a lot of roleplay beyond “I tear people apart”

[severe rampart]

Devils because they sound cooler

[umbral girder]

Each devil having a unique method of trying to make someone a worse person

[balmy juniper]

I'm doing my first campaign soon (as a DM) I am an experienced pc

[rough basalt]

Devils

[humble cairn]

Yugoloths

[woven flint]

Demons can have that too!
It's just hard for them to resist destruction!
It's a carnal desire to them, you know!

[uncut zenith]

Yugoloths don’t get enough love

[lavish flame]

I always thought Yugoloths were really interesting because they were a kind of evil that I just wouldn't anticipate from an extraplanar evil entity

[rough basalt]

Raphael from BG3 made Devils my favorite.

[woven flint]

Me, defending Demons when one of my characters hates demons so much he wants to eradicate all of them

[uncut zenith]

One of my favorite NPCs in a D&D campaign was an arcanoloth

[umbral girder]

It is a thing of if I find lawful evil way more interesting than chaotic evil too

[reef tundra]

He is peak devil

[viral kraken]

i still have not gotten BG3, it sounds great tho

[balmy juniper]

Tips for a new DM?

[reef tundra]

Don’t tell me it’s that one in sigil…

[umbral girder]

Like with Devils their method of their evil is more clear to me.

[rough basalt]

Love that man in Sigil.

[balmy juniper]

--

[woven flint]

I think Chaotic Evil is interesting

People just devolve it into Murderhobodom

[rough basalt]

It's cause it usually is murderhoboism.

[umbral girder]

Yep

[uncut zenith]

Nope, a custom made one before the Planescape books even came out. He was bound by a magic university who was a “Professor of Planar Theory”

[reef tundra]

I agree. I’d describe the joker from the dark knight as chaotic evil, yet he’s one of the most famous and beloved villains in film

[woven flint]

Then be a chad, don't be a murderhobo!

[normal canyon]

Ask #dm-discussion ?

[rough basalt]

For higher ranked demons it means intelligent murderhoboing.

[viral kraken]

well i would also ask in #dm-discussion but i think my biggest tip is communication is the most powerful tool you have, so things that aid it like a session 0 or a campaign pitch deck or safety tools help a lot

[reef tundra]

Amen

[balmy juniper]

Should I do a session playing out back stories?

[uncut zenith]

He was also the stand-in in that campaign for the “mage ally”

[woven flint]

Hey! That's a Pal of my Warlocks, you leave them alone >:[

[reef tundra]

I know what kind of people like that arcanaloth…

[umbral girder]

Well there is two of them

[viral kraken]

i would ask your table honestly, did each one come up with a backstory that they want to play out for instance? i like starting in media res, but you could all talk about backstories in session 0

[umbral girder]

Akin the Friendly Fiend is the one you met Tokii

a much more well known one is Shemeshka

[woven flint]

Akin is a dope fella

[umbral girder]

Owner of the Fortune's Wheel casino

[woven flint]

I can imagine Sovis dapping Akin up everytime he enters his shop

[umbral girder]

Also Shemeshka burned down Akin's house from time to time

[rough basalt]

I like him.

[umbral girder]

They were dating, things have not turned out well for Akin

[rough basalt]

He's a cool dude.

[woven flint]

It's okay to be friends with a fiend so long as you don't allow their manipulation to grasp you!

[balmy juniper]

Best class for DMPC??? I don't like them I just want your thoughts.

[reef tundra]

Cleric. If there’s gonna be a person constantly tagging along with the party they might as well heal and buff

[viral kraken]

hmmm, maybe a cleric or something that can res? i'm really not sure tho

[woven flint]

Time for Sovis to give Shemeshka a visit. /joking

[umbral girder]

She could probably beat the Eve of Ruin party

[woven flint]

She's an Arcanaloth, she can't be that-

[umbral girder]

She herself is like Cr13 but she basically pays off a stupid amount of powerful entites.

[woven flint]

Oh. Right

[umbral girder]

Having the biggest casino in Sigil makes you stupid rich and a lot of people on your payroll.

[woven flint]

We should visit her casino anyway, I dunno if Sovis or the party has met her

[umbral girder]

More of a political enemy than a combat enemy.

Fun fact her outfits are all based on the Lady of Pain too

[woven flint]

Suck up.

[umbral girder]

Less of a suck up and more "I am that important in the city"

[woven flint]

I'm gonna dress like the Lady of Pain so I can run a Casino in her joint

Sounds like suck up behavior to me

[umbral girder]

There are higher CR guys in Sigil of course above Shemeshka, she just has way better connections and control in the city.

[woven flint]

So Akins shop IS called the friendly fiend, right?
Or is that his own moniker

[umbral girder]

Like Factol Skall, the lich who runs the city morturary.

[umbral girder]

He named himself and shop that.

I love the book describing him.

"Is he evil and planning something?"
"Idk"

[halcyon bison]

whats everyones favorite type of fey :3

[woven flint]

There's a Raksasha private detective in Waterdeep
My party is close to him somewhat and we revealed we knew he was a fiend last session to have transparency between us, he was appreciative of us keeping his secret and he was very game to help us kill Manshoon one day.

[buoyant oar]

favorite fey is a dead fey

[short reef]

so im looking for another player for my campaign that is not dnd, can i post it here? (its very similar to dnd only that its less about epic fights and more about survival)
Couldnt find anything about it in the rules

[crimson gulch]

Nope not here

[woven flint]

#find-a-game
Should help!

[umbral girder]

no

D&D only here

[still plover]

Try Roll20 or Reddit?

[halcyon bison]

thats not very nice D:
the fey are friends

[woven flint]

Oh wait

[buoyant oar]

Yea this place is only for DnD. You can't even search for 5e total conversions like SW5e, or ME5e

[short reef]

thank you

[woven flint]

I didn't notice lol

I thought they said a dnd game

[uncut zenith]

Yeah the official D&D server only allows promoting D&D games. And only in the appropriate channels

[short reef]

thank you

[woven flint]

You, friend :]

[buoyant oar]

Give me Baatezu, or Tanar'ri over fey any day.

[halcyon bison]

yay thank you :3

[woven flint]

At least they'll kill you straight up lol

[uncut zenith]

Hags

[woven flint]

Erm, but what about night hags? They're not fey 🤓 👆 /silly /joking

[uncut zenith]

That’s their own fault!

[buoyant oar]

And at least Baatezu can be reasoned with.

Fey you are playing an intricate game where you are not told the rules and in most best case scenarios you lose your autonomy. Horrifying.

[severe rampart]

Changeling

[halcyon bison]

changelings and hags are fun

[woven flint]

Centaur are probably my favorite Fey as I feel they just .. don't play the same bullshit games

[vast saddle]

Man, Telekinetic is so goated

[buoyant oar]

Yea when I talk Fey I mean like full fey not like a fey related species

[woven flint]

Mhhh...
Centaur and Saytr are alright in my book

[uncut zenith]

Boggles are a fun one too. They’re just greasy little guys

[lavish flame]

Quicklings are hilarious to me

[reef tundra]

Changelings and centaurs are full fey. Although my definition is literally just fey creature type

[severe rampart]

Reading it right now, doesn't sound good

[woven flint]

It's pretty solid, all things considered

[lavish flame]

Quicklings are just Thing 1 and Thing 2 from Cat in the Hat. Its great.

[woven flint]

It's a bonus action if you don't have many bonus actions for one

[severe rampart]

It is solid, I just don't know what build it could be used for

[woven flint]

Thing 1 and Thing 2 if they were homicidal maniacs

[buoyant oar]

A centaur on the prime is far less likely and to my knowledge unable to do feyish things like stealing a name. Trap people, and transform them into animals and or objects.

[woven flint]

Push builds, maybe

[normal canyon]

I miss one of my players.

[halcyon bison]

quicklings are indeed funny
they be zoomin

[woven flint]

That is to say if thing 1 and thing 2 weren't potentially homicidal maniacs already

[lavish flame]

Thing 1 and Thing 2 if they werent bound by children book rules

[woven flint]

Real

[buoyant oar]

If I had to deal with fey in my day to day troubles I would probably pick goblinoids or nixies, they are some of the more reasonable ones along with Centaur.

[umbral girder]

Admitttedly I am not too interested in Fey.

[halcyon bison]

i think fey are pretty neat

[severe rampart]

I like humanoids

[umbral girder]

Like I get why the Fey are in D&D but that haven't grabbed my interest much.

[buoyant oar]

For me personally I am not big on boiling a creature type down to a single descriptor. And it feels like in the DND and broader TTRPG community fey have gotten boiled down to pure ✨ Whimsy. ✨

[halcyon bison]

i like weird alien fey the most

[uncut zenith]

I personally look at Fey in D&D as less “whimsical” and more… unpredictable

[buoyant oar]

Which whimsy has its place. Don't get me wrong. But singular attributes aren't as interesting to me.

[lavish flame]

I think people overall have a weird idea of what Fey are in D&D

[halcyon bison]

thats because they're a lot of things

[flint ledge]

A green hag is whimsy?

[lavish flame]

this is clearly not Kas' opinion

[feral fulcrum]

Probably because WOTC barely puts any focus onto the fey.

[lavish flame]

I think Kas might tell you about the various whimsies to be found amongst Skeletons and Zombies

[crimson gulch]

Emeralda Splitleafe sure was, that was a fun NPC

[limber trail]

There is whimse in all creatures if you have a heart to find it

[feral fulcrum]

When the game basically ingores Fey on the whole...of course people are going to fill in the blanks themselves.

[timber turtle]

Would have should have bug antenna as eyebrows

[buoyant oar]

The whimsy opinion comes from something I call "just a wittle guy" syndrome. Where there is a propensity to defang a lot of the scary or potentially frightening things because of whimsy and or cuteness. Its just not a thing I personally vibe with. Some whimsy? Good. All whimsy? not a fan.

[severe rampart]

How shall I play my paladin today...

[uncut zenith]

I try to think of Fey the way they’re portrayed in Celtic and Welsh mythology. They can be deceptively “cute” or “beautiful”, but deception is their game. And that’s what actually makes them scary.

[lavish flame]

Yeah. I'd love a Heroes of the Feywild (4e) book for 5e. I'd love if they gave us a map to use too, like how we have a map of (a section of) Avernus in BGDIA.

I just want a Fey deep-dive for 5e, I want to get entrenched in the Courts and what Centaur-Goblin relations are like.

[slate plinth]

Hello

[crimson gulch]

i have been running a super fey heavy camapaign in the moonshae islands with the forgotten realms adventure guide, that was great so far

[lavish flame]

ooh cool! Have you gotten to toy around with the Rust stuff from the Adventures book?

[buoyant oar]

That is precisely how I view them as well.

[crimson gulch]

yes, thats the main issue the players are facing

[buoyant oar]

The work that Baldman Games put into the Moonshaes is nothing short of astounding I am happy WotC canonized most of their AL stuff.

[uncut zenith]

In my D&D campaigns, I tend to blend Celtic/Welsh mythology with Slavic mythology and a touch of animism. They’re essentially just physical embodiments of the natural world around them, and humanoids can never fully get a read on them

[crimson gulch]

oh i have never heard of that, did any thing they do make it into the New Fr book?

[buoyant oar]

Baldman games updated the Moonshaes for AL as a Premiere Organizer. They even had Doug Niles write a setting guide with them as they worked on their Moonshae campaigns, many of the major players in the Moonshaes, the conflicts between the peoples of the islands were all updated in their adventures.

From what I gather WotC did not work with them at all nor consult them while updating the Moonshaes for FR AiF. But the guys at Baldman were very surprised with how compatible it was and what was included as a node to those popular adventures.

I fully recommend the Rising Shadows Campaign from Moonshaes.com it goes from 1-14 IIRC

[crimson gulch]

ah neat, yeah this vibes with what i have been runnning with

polluted moonwells, Norlanders cursed, but i did not do anything with the kendrick family

[sterile dust]

hello everyone

[rough basalt]

A Feywild book would be nice.

[cedar bane]

just having a massive book of cool fey creatures would be great

a bunch of really weird stuff

[rough basalt]

Might be possible with the current wotc

[feral fulcrum]

I won't hold my breath

[cedar bane]

if they keep up this roadmap thing they might do a season of fey or just the other planes (shadowfell, hells, fey)

[candid solar]

Along with fey, how do you guys handle bargains with them? Or have seen bargains be handled with them. That's a big aspect of them that only really gets shown off with hags.

[rough basalt]

True, but with old WotC it would never happen.

Because a Feywild book would be a setting guide and they were allergic to those.

[valid geyser]

Most likely a fey book would be like a fizbans

[cedar bane]

depends on the fey, but i tend to make them low stakes. The whole "say your name and you lose everything" is boring.

very vain and mischievous, they make deals they feel would be fun or would provide them something cool

[rough basalt]

I think a Fey book like Ravenloft would be good

New WotC ravenloft style tho

[feral fulcrum]

If they weren't so allergic to such things, maybe Spelljammer could have been an actual thing instead of a wet fart and a monster splat.

[cedar bane]

i also tend to make them have weird rules, like 3 or so seemingly pointless rules that dont make sense but everything they do is based around them. their deals tend to be built around those

[cedar bane]

thatd be awesome, expanding on each court and archfey

[rough basalt]

Yeah Perkins and Crawford, if you ever had to defeat them in combat you could use their anathema to disable their legendary actions (a Setting Guide)

If you opened it in front of them they'd go "Ahhhh!" And take 20d12 damage

[candid solar]

It kind of sucks because there's Wild Beyond the Witchlight, which could be analagous to Curse of Strahd, but there's no Guide to Ravenloft equivelant that tells you about the setting itself

[valid geyser]

Domains of delight are such a nothing concept.

[rough basalt]

Opening a setting guide on a 5e dev is like Yugi using Exodia on Kaiba.

An autowin that renders them inert

I gotta wonder what kind of dirt Keith Baker had for them to make their one good setting guide of an old setting the Eberron one.

[candid solar]

Low stakes works pretty well for smaller fey yeah. I had a fey librarian that would ask for collateral from players that they'd keep in case they damaged a book. The players would offer up collateral themselves. Some would offer their weapons, some would offer things inadvertently.

One said

"I give you my word I will harm no book"

So the fey took their voice as collateral

[valid geyser]

Well he was just a writer that cared about the setting

[rough basalt]

He might have more control of the IP too

"You wanna have eberron in 5e you need to make an actual setting guide"

The 5e team: "God! Noooo!"

[cedar bane]

eh that still follows the "haha you said a common word you lose" type of bargain

[atomic kayak]

They are as much as one as of dread they just hardly used them

[rough basalt]

Even the Domains of Dread until here soon wasn't utilized well.

[valid geyser]

I mean at least domains of dread have lore. The dark powers are pretty cool

[woven flint]

Domain of Dread Enjoyers
vs
Domain of Delight Enthusiast

[rough basalt]

The original ravenloft book for 5e wasn't a bad book by 5e 2020s standard, but wasn't too good either.

[candid solar]

Fey understand things very literally in my view because they don't have turns of phrase that humans use. So to them you're actively offering something up. Lesser fey see it as literal, older and stronger fey know better but they also have less of a reason to trick people

[rough basalt]

Pretty good by Post Tashas standards tho

Cause Post Tashas books were a lot of hard hit or some of the biggest 5e screwups.

[cedar bane]

fair

[rough basalt]

Like Vecna, Spelljammer

Bigbys with the AI incident.

[valid geyser]

Idk what you’re on about with the “wotc couldn’t make good setting books before 2024” when theros, ravnica, and wildemount exist

[rough basalt]

Two of those were MTG so MTG being the moneymaker means they had to do them well

[crimson gulch]

True, the exploreres guide to wildmount was the best setting book for 5e till the new forgotten realms one dropped

[rough basalt]

And Wildemount was CR

[meager fractal]

Still is imo

[rough basalt]

Lord Mercer had the power to will it to be good.

[valid geyser]

I think there’s a recurring theme that setting books are more likely to be good when the writers care about the setting

A company can’t mandate a product to be well written, but they can get good writers

[rough basalt]

Yeah 5e didn't care about FR all that much it was more just convenient to put every adventure into

[candid solar]

Considering there's not much of a guide to make domains of delight do you think its wise to use the domains of dread formula to make one just, turn it on its head? Instead of keeping something trapped in a continuous cycle of misery instead its joy, or some other emotion?

[valid geyser]

Domains of delight are just the realm of an archfey

They’re not an opposite to domains of dread despite their name

[crimson gulch]

keeping things consistant was a good move overall i feel

[rough basalt]

I think it was mixed

I think having to spend a few hundred dollars on adventure books just to get the lore for a few cities is outrageous

And SCAG of course being just the biggest reason WotC had to start working in house

[warm shore]

Am I tripping or would a hexadin oath of vengeance subclass with war caster just be ridiculously op cause they’ve got almost unbreakable haste?

[rough basalt]

Personally I just don't like the "we don't need settings, just adventures" approach

Cause if the adventure sucks, but people wanna keep playing in FR they gotta buy old edition guides or use the FR wiki to help

Or try and segue into an adventure that doesn't suck.

Ig we gotta be thankful that they didn't do to Planescape like they did to Spelljammer

Must have taken a lot of restraint.

[valid geyser]

I don’t think any writers are intentionally trying to make bad books.

[rough basalt]

I think the "don't mistake incompetence for malice" sometimes does a little too heavy lifting when it came to 5e books that were bad.

But yeah I theorize it's just often a combination of bad direction, laziness, and probably internal conflict.

I do think Spelljammer teetered the line of incompetence vs malice.

[tidal skiff]

Did 5.5e add some new hand to hand combat magic items ?
Also if I never played official story as DM, are magical items predetermined in things like Curse of Strahd or is everything up to DM ?

[rough basalt]

I think they just did not wanna make that box set and made it quite clear they were only releasing it to likely get people to shut up.

[valid geyser]

I feel like they wanted it to be way more epic in scale, but then they realized all the actual lore had to be in like, a fragment of a 64 page book

[crimson gulch]

a published adventure has a lot of treasure predetermined and the dm is allways free to change that

[rough basalt]

I know that Dark Sun was supposed to initially involved

But the producer at the time ordered it cut

[crimson gulch]

and yes they added magic handwraps and the potion of pugilisem

[valid geyser]

I do remember the spelljammer interviews and jcraw and Perkins seemed very excited and inspired when teasing stuff. I was hyped from those interviews until I realized they talked about literally everything in the book

[halcyon bison]

What’s the deal with spelljammer? I have the book and I thought it was alright, if a bit short on content and vague on how things actually work. But everyone seems to dislike it. Was it better in previous editions or something?

[tidal skiff]

Nice, that should make things easier for DM.

[rough basalt]

Basically they don't want you to actually use spelljammer

They just wanted you to go to Forgotten Realms

[halcyon bison]

Please elaborate

[valid geyser]

They practically scrapped old edition spelljammer and started over, and kinda made it just a highway to connect different published settings instead of its own setting with its own adventures in space

[halcyon bison]

Ah
I see how that is troublesome

[rough basalt]

Spelljammer used to have a whole star system basically. But in 5e it's just "here's some ship statblocks with no rules to use them and here's the Forgotten Realms solar system go there.

[valid geyser]

Consider that in old editions the solar systems all had multiple planets listed with their own unique stuff

[rough basalt]

Dragonlance used to be accessible via spelljammer for example

[halcyon bison]

Yeah I see it now
I also didn’t like how they connected all the settings like that but I never knew it used to be better

[rough basalt]

But they didn't want Dragonlance to be a thing anymore aside from the adventure and a board game so that was scrapped too.

[crimson gulch]

dragonlance is still a thing though.....?

[woeful zinc]

Where could I put like a

Question, like a, would I be the A-hole if I did this question

[rough basalt]

With the new people they do, but with old it was just something to sell an adventure and a board game

[harsh hinge]

I suspect here if you were a player, #dm-discussion if this would be as a DM.

[woeful zinc]

would i be the A-hole if i put my foot down and left a campaign with friends? The thing is, one friend so far has:

Refused all other options the other players wanted to do, and will only do one specific campaign, the reason given because “my character won’t feel special”

Refuses to do more than 3 players and a dm, for a difficult campaign, where we start at level 1, which, 3 players seems odd right?

[crimson gulch]

ah well im not worried about who was in charge when things were Waffling, things look better now

[rough basalt]

Yeah I'm specifically talking about 2022

[harsh hinge]

Three PCs would be my minimum, personally, but it does feel odd to not try compromising in an explicitly social game.

[rough basalt]

Which was when they released Spelljammer and Dragonlance

And were gearing up for the OGL takeover

[valid geyser]

I do have to question this line of thinking on who “they” is. Because the same people writing the books aren’t the same people approving the company’s licenses

[halcyon bison]

Talk to the dm about it first, or with the friend in question

[woeful zinc]

Their “compromise” was threatening to leave

[rough basalt]

The they of that time behind those decisions aren't in the company anymore I believe

[woeful zinc]

We’ve tried in the group chat we are all in, so far our only solution is just doing the campaign she wanted to, but if this player thing is set I’m putting my foot down

[harsh hinge]

I agree with rats: if talking doesn't work out and letting it go is going to be unfun, then walking away is a good move. I refer you to The Chart: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_RPG/comments/3aw84m/resolving_basic_behavioral_problems_a_flowchart/

[rough basalt]

Like Perkins was behind why Spelljammer didn't have any rules for it

He wanted Spelljammer to be more vibes and presentation rather than rules and stuff.

[candid solar]

It'd be the responsibility of the dm to ensure that everyone gets some spotlight now and again. if someone is shifting focus onto what they want to do and their things only, and the dm isn't doing anything to dissuade that then you're in the right not wanting to play in the campaign

[rough basalt]

And Dragonlance was made without the creators involvement due to legal tension between the creators and then then WotC
The tension caused by old WotC canceling a Dragonlance Trilogy after approving it initially in 2020 causing the creators financial problems.

[still plover]

Remote group? You can always get more players.

[severe rampart]

We rolled survival, a nat 1, a nat 2, two natural 3's and a 13 😭

[crimson gulch]

fantastic you find a berry bush filled with Big purple fruits that look so tasty, none of you can reacall the name and you are so very hungry

[proper forum]

Purple fruits are almost never dangerous. The ones you should worry about are the black ones.

[crimson gulch]

yes you are quite confidnet they are safe

[proper forum]

Congratulations! You just ate deadly nightshade! The whole party is dead! I hope you have new characters ready!

[crimson gulch]

opens TPK envalope

welcome to Wildmount!

[rough basalt]

Exandria is a pretty fun setting. Wildemount especially.

[uncut zenith]

Exandria my beloved

Exandria is honestly in my top 3 favorite official settings

[proper forum]

Guys I want to make my own original setting complete with its own history, cultures and religions. Please help me.

[uncut zenith]

Right up there with Ravenloft and Eberron

[proper forum]

I'm about to ruin my life over here

[severe rampart]

I love this setting, we're having to discuss having to eat poisonous mushrooms for ration and then I just cure them of poison using lay on hands

[rough basalt]

There was a lot of love put into Exandria I feel like you can tell

[proven mountain]

#dm-world-building would be the place to go 🙂

[woven flint]

The urge to play another Monk grows stronger in me every day

[rough basalt]

A big tip for worldbuilding

It takes time

[jagged hornet]

Okay. This might be a bit of a big task, i dont really know. I want to make a half-tabaxi half-human rogue but i cant access D&D beyond at all. Can somebody help me?

[proper forum]

I know I'm just pointing put the fact that I'm gonna really want to make my own setting until I lose interest and slowly drop it. This happens with everything I try to make. I cannot make long-time investments.

[rough basalt]

Ah yeah.
Good ole ADHD

[proper forum]

You can dm me I'll help

[woven flint]

Why not just flavor a Tabaxi as being half human?

[crimson gulch]

The trick is to make just enough to start running it and build it as you go

[rough basalt]

One thing I've found for my worldbuilding is that by doing it in the form of a setting guide on Homebrewery has made it more fun and easy to stick to cause it looks awesome seeing your world look official.

[jagged hornet]

Because i dont know what im doing

[primal estuary]

what’s the downside of multi classing

[thorn wedge]

Making a few things relevant to the story every week > trying to make all of the setting, characters, places, beforehand

[woven flint]

Understandable 🧐

[rough basalt]

Losing out on features related to your main class.

[valid geyser]

You don’t get high level features, and multiclass spellcasters get high level spell slots but not the spells

[jagged hornet]

Thank you, dm sent

[valid geyser]

Also stuff isn’t gonna scale automatically, so one level in rogue giving you a 1d6 damage bonus isn’t gonna be all that useful

[woven flint]

I've played
4 Tabaxi in my D&D career
A Grave Cleric
A Rune Knight Fighter
An Elements Monk
And
A Thief Rogue

[thorn wedge]

Also it can force you to spread out your stats to get into different classes or to just be useful depending on what multiclass you’re looking at.

[candid solar]

Very large but very shallow pool of abilities vs strength. You get alot of things but they won't be very strong compared to what you can do later on if you just stick with the class.

[rough basalt]

I played one Tabaxi

[thorn wedge]

It can still be worth it in some cases, but often isn’t.

[rough basalt]

Barry Catlen, the fastest mercy monk alive

[flint vortex]

I am new to dnd, i wonder how am i supposed to get started?

[woven flint]

My Thief Rogue Tabaxi was named...
Lockpick.

[harsh hinge]

See the pinned info in #dnd-newcomers!

[woven flint]

My Elements Monk Tabaxi was named Sumatra
Grave Cleric was Nokiin
And
The Rune Knight was Gentle Waves

Believe it or not!
None of them acted like house cats!!!!
Because i hate that stereotype associated with them. >_>

Lockpick did speak with a Jersey accent though!
That was fun.

[woven flint]

Mercy Monk is dope

My Tabaxi Elements Monk was neigh untouchable lol

[ebon silo]

I played once with a player who was a mercy monk that was roleplaying kenshiro from Fist of the north star

I hated how i dint think of that before💀

[severe rampart]

Man we've been rolling low today

the highest roll I've made is a 10 😭

[halcyon bison]

Sorry about disappearing, I had to do irl things. Just wanted to say that I think the best solution here might just be to let them leave! Especially if the rest of the table is unhappy with how they’re behaving

[feral fulcrum]

You sure it was Kenshiro, and not the other guy? Toki IIRC.

[woeful zinc]

Nah honestly I’ve left the game

I also talked about the dm for adding content from my books (extra spells, subclasses, that’s it)

They said no to not “confuse the new players”

In a homebrew campaign, with homebrew races

[ebon silo]

Should have seen my friend 3 eldricht blast beams all 3 natural 1s

We never let him live it down

[hot gate]

That is incredibly unlucky

[severe rampart]

We just got a random encounter before our long rest finished! 😭

[scenic zinc]

Good

[halcyon bison]

Ah well
Hopefully you’ll find another group that fits better :3

[cobalt escarp]

thats 1/8000 odds

[worldly steeple]

Hey guys, is anyone planning to go to the official expo in London?

[severe rampart]

Party member just rolled a 4 on a d100

[meager fractal]

I've seen someone roll a 1 on d1000 once

It was online but it still counts

[mossy minnow]

Guys

What do you think about the demonic sorcerer?

[meager fractal]

There's a demonic sorcerer?

Oh the UA one

[mossy minnow]

Yup

[meager fractal]

It's fun

[mossy minnow]

I liked the hellknight warrior class

[dim narwhal]

I usually play a Silver Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer, but that's just my preference.

[mossy minnow]

Fair enough

[dim narwhal]

I'm also a 2014 player/DM

[mossy minnow]

I like abberant

[dim narwhal]

I'm not a big fan of the 2024 ruleset. I was taught using 2014 so 2024 feels weird to me.

[errant crag]

How can the Petrified Condition be ended by the players?

Just Greater Restoration?

[dim narwhal]

Not sure on that part.

[rough basalt]

thats the easiest way

[errant crag]

Thinking of having a petrified Marid in my dungeon who can grant the party a wish if they cure him

But I'm not gonna add any ways to free him they'll have to have pre-prepared Greater Restoration

[rough basalt]

Greater Resto is quickly becoming my favorite 5th level spell

cause of all the max hp drain in my Tuesday game.
Max hp drain is scary.

[dim narwhal]

My favorite spell in all of DnD is Chill Touch.
A CANTRIP that lets you block healing for a full round of combat? Broken as h*ll.

[cedar bane]

My favourite has to be ride the lighting. It's just so cool

[gusty charm]

Is that in the standard rules for 5 or 5.5e? I’ve never heard of it

[cedar bane]

All I know is I see it on dnd beyond and its awesome

Ok apparently it isn't real

[crimson gulch]

i did that to a downed PC that had one failed death save allready,
the whole party was like ANXIETY ++

[cedar bane]

But it's still awesome

[errant crag]

Oooh casting Chill Touch on a downed PC is spicy

[flint ledge]

Not to rules lawyer but doesn't that just kill em cause of the auto crit?

[dim narwhal]

LMFAO

[cedar bane]

Only when it's within 5ft

[cedar bane]

For actual real spells then Ashardalon's stride

[crimson gulch]

oh its only an auto crit on a melee attack, this happened with the 2014 rules at the time

[flint ledge]

Ah I see yeah 2014 rules, makes sense

[crimson gulch]

Chill touch is now a touch spell, which is good, except for the folks that remembered that it wasn't, despite the name.

overall a good change but a source of confusion

[solar crow]

My party has all become kinda like time gods now

[hot gate]

If standing within 5 feet, that's advantage, so it disadv and adv would cancel each other out to a normal roll.
Also any successful attack on a unconscious target within 5 feet is an auto crit, not just melee.

[crimson gulch]

straight rolls because the disadvantage is canceled out by Unconscious Attacks Affected. Attack rolls against you have Advantage.

[molten glade]

What kind of look is it to use a character in more than one campaign

[crimson gulch]

if your community or dm has an issue they will let you know. Idealy each campaign is going to have its own criteria for charicter creation and if you can make the concept fit a new campaign it should be fine, but dont expect to bring in a high level PC to a new campaign that starts at a lower level

Correct , thats why i said a straight roll

[severe rampart]

Roleplayed so amazingly I gave everybody inspiration in my party

[mossy minnow]

Hey friends,if i want to find a game. Where do i do it?

[molten glade]

#find-a-game

[severe rampart]

My character was fighting with himself about what they know and the situation they were currently in

[lethal kayak]

idk if the homebrew rules of a campaign I'm potentially going to play in are unbalanced or if I'm overreacting

[errant crag]

What are they?

I can overreact to them for you if you like

[lethal kayak]

"In terms of magic casting
Caster has to roll to cast magic
They add their wisdom (or other depending on class) and any spell/bardic proficiency bonus
Nat 1 - wild magic backlash, damage equal to spell level plus 1 (1 for cantrips, 2 for level 1, based on what level spell slot it’s supposed to use)
2-5 - sparks/fizzles out, does exactly nothing useful
6-9 - sparks out but does something wild magic that could be vaguely useful
10 - works at a low level (half all numbers in the spell description)
11-12 - works but at least 1 stat in the spell description is halved
13+ - works at full strength
Nat 20 - a little bit extra (+1 to every number in the spell description)"

[errant crag]

That's already bad

[feral fulcrum]

Having to roll to cast magic is a bad idea

[errant crag]

I'd be gone

[primal estuary]

bro didn’t sugar coat it whatsoever

[lethal kayak]

Also vanilla humans get 0 magical abilities and an immediate -4 to arcana

[errant crag]

This reeks of DM thinks magic is OP

[primal estuary]

i wouldn’t know, i’m always too afraid to do homebrew

[feral fulcrum]

No, people jsut want to be able to play their classes.

[primal estuary]

maybe a homebrewed weapon here or there but that’s it for me. i can’t make full mechanics

[feral fulcrum]

And not, you know, be entirely at the mercy of "Cool, it doesn't work. Again. That's my turn."

[lethal kayak]

This would be this DM's first ever campaign (she was a newbie player in the campaign I just handed off)

[still plover]

Hohohoho, no. Just no.

[errant crag]

Yeah that's terrible

[lethal kayak]

it would completely kill all caster classes or subclasses

[errant crag]

There's no way around making that good or fun

[feral fulcrum]

Correct.

[primal estuary]

so be constructive but firm about how the ruleset just isn’t good

[lethal kayak]

I'm fine with wackey magic (like making us roll on wild magic every once in a while) but this feels like punishment

[feral fulcrum]

It's like if a fighter had to make saving throws to use the Attack action.

[errant crag]

It's obvious to everybody why it's not good

[feral fulcrum]

You're cutting their legs off before the proverbial race begins

[lethal kayak]

I plan to, I'm writing down questions and suggestions for the dm

[solar crow]

My campaign has officially fully ended. We just all talked about what happened after our final fight and what our characters did and everything and it's over

[lethal kayak]

neither do I, I assume its like the time/dc/damage is halved

[turbid vessel]

such a bittersweet feeling, ending a campaign. does your group plan to stick around and start another one?

[still plover]

Scribbles: "Dear...DM... please use the basic rules. Thank you."

[primal estuary]

i can see it being somewhat neat for magic ability checks, but i think that would just be arcana anyway?

[feral fulcrum]

You're free to dead wrong on this.

[reef tundra]

… what

[solar crow]

Well we ran this campaign through the D&D club at the college we all go to, and the dm is graduating after the summer, and someone else is not gonna be on campus next semester, so we won't be doing anything at school anymore, but all but one said they'd be down to try to do something outside of school again together so I'm happy about that

[reef tundra]

People are entitled for… wanting to play this heroic fantasy game? And get annoyed when the heroic fantasy game is turned into not a heroic fantasy game?

[still plover]

First spin as DM and they want to kick off with house rules that considerably upset the balance of the product that has been continuously revised for how many years?

[feral fulcrum]

Yeah, you're not interested in an honest discusion here bud.

[drifting slate]

Hey, I'm looking for a text based party, I was wondering if there were some openings? as a player by the way.

[primal estuary]

“you’re free to not use any spells with my homebrewed moveset. go ahead and pick human fighter, would you?”

[reef tundra]

So you’re saying people are entitled because… they want their abilities to work

That they… want to play the game they enjoy, the way they want to enjoy?

[errant crag]

This is just gonna make people not play casters

[feral fulcrum]

Again, I point to the example of this being the equivalant of asking a Fighter...to have to make saving throws...to be able to attack in the first place.

It's an inherently stupid idea.

[reef tundra]

This is just gonna make people not play the damn game because two thirds of the classes are spellcasters

[primal estuary]

i totally think you should be polite about it to the DM, i think if they’re a first timer they wouldn’t understand the balance of the game and how it can be messed up with even small variations. i don’t think the DM is necessarily “WRONG” here, i’d say mistaken is the right word

[tall valley]

Hey, everyone.

[turbid vessel]

there are definetly ways to pass on criticism to the DM without insulting their intelligence

[primal estuary]

you give me redditor vibes as a redditor lmao

[reef tundra]

Hi Cremini. You came in at a wonderful time

[lethal kayak]

I'm actually fine with a out of control magic system, but I think this one is unbalanced. I also think its a big swing for a newbie DM to try out, which is why I want to give my own criticisms/critiques

[tall valley]

Why’s it wonderful?

[primal estuary]

“roll an intelligence saving throw”
Natural 1

[feral fulcrum]

It was sarcasm I beleive.

[reef tundra]

Yes it was

[errant crag]

The question was if the house rule was bad and if they were overreacting

The house rule was bad and everybody reacted

This is a new DM not some seasoned DM trying something new

This brand new DM is likely not going to run this in a way that is fun and engaging for the casters

[crisp wasp]

Meh. Honestly, it's their game, and it's the players choice to take part in it. I honestly wouldn't, but that's because I'm a strong believer in the Rule of Cool.

[errant crag]

The constructive feedback is leave the game or tell the DM not to do it

[errant crag]

Is casters needing to roll a check to not take damage when they use magic a cool ruling to you?

[primal estuary]

this is some freaky fish paste here, man. if a little kid is messing around with a sharp object, are you going to tell them not to do it? or are you going to let them have fun? you can’t just encourage someone to go through with a bad idea because they like it

[errant crag]

You weren't paying attention to the original question. They weren't asking how to improve the houserule they were asking if they were overreacting to it or if it was actually bad

That's the answer they got

[lethal kayak]

Luckily it’s not that harsh lol it’s just for magic

[errant crag]

The fact that it was bad

[primal estuary]

i’m actually with this guy here. telling them “no” or leaving isn’t constructive. in my opinion it’s the responsibility of the more experienced player to help out the newbies

again, purely opinion. saying “no” and not explaining why it’s not a good rule is just not constructive

[still plover]

Put the rule on the NPCs first, see how they like it!

[crisp wasp]

It isn't, but it's also not my campaign. I'm not gonna get upset over a stranger's opinion on the internet. I'm just here for a good time ;P

[half igloo]

does anybody have the crooked moon book?

if so how many creatures use tremor sense or true sight?

[primal estuary]

there’s a book?

[lethal kayak]

Yeah I’m also friends with her, it’s her first ever game. I want her to take big swings, but I also want to help her refine her rules based on my own experience (and another dm who’s planning on playing). I’m not going to bounce out of the game randomly

[feral fulcrum]

I expect someone to know, that making the Core function of a class, rely on a dice roll, to be even possible to perform, is an inherently bad idea. It is not rocket science.

[half igloo]

no idea

[errant crag]

Okay if I ruled that a martial who rolls a nat 1 on an attack has his head exploded and dies, is that something I should actually try and test out first? Or is it obvious that it's a bad idea?

[severe rampart]

Oh my god I had an amazing roleplay session

[primal estuary]

i would test out any homebrewed rules in a combat scenario on my own personally. make a boss and a quick character and see if the rule makes it more or less fun

[flint ledge]

Uhh ask in #third-party (I assume you mean the third party book)

[turbid vessel]

ooh, tell us about it!

[crimson gulch]

New dms should stick to RAW to get started, and hopefully they decide to keep it that way

[errant crag]

This reeks of this new DM feeling that casters are OP

[reef tundra]

Actually, yeah, maybe I did speak harshly. But calling everyone entitled for wanting their abilities to work and then throwing out insults at everyone isn’t good either

[primal estuary]

did you fr just copy and paste your message

[lethal kayak]

I think her setting had a magical dead/wacky zone which is why magic is like that

[primal estuary]

great response

[lethal kayak]

So I don’t think it’s a caster thing (otherwise I’d feel targeted lol)

[severe rampart]

My farmer paladin kept on fighting with themself with what they knew and the situation they were in, I had to (with consent of all parties) deceive my party members by using themauturgy and pretending I was using channel divinity to find out if the muscle squirrels were demons

[elfin kraken]

Hello everyone! I created an app for DMs to give their tables a fun and unique experience. Is there a section here for self promotion or something where I can ask for volunteers to help test?

[flint ledge]

#dnd-advertisements

[crimson gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/573191697622761512

[woven flint]

Rule numbero uno of spellcasting...!
Always keep a dagger on you just in case

[reef tundra]

I would say that if this gimmick was indeed only in a few zones, it could actually be somewhat interesting. It provides a layer of tactic in combat as the party needs to stop casters from being knocked in, and gives enemies a goal in the form of doing that, or spreading the zone

[primal estuary]

April’s Fool

[severe rampart]

"I place a hand on Chauntea's holy symbol and you see an aura around me glow, though it's only themauturgy pretending to channel the divine powers of Chauntea"

[woven flint]

Most of my casters LOVE getting up and close

[reef tundra]

Or the casters take the risk and enter the zone in order to be in range of an enemy at the risk of the spell failing

[feral fulcrum]

Or wear a magic collar from a Demon that gives you a bite attack and a greater taste for the flesh of the living.

[gusty charm]

So they consistently have a 5% chance to die? That seems a bit overkill. The rolling should be on how well their attack went

[errant crag]

If you wanna try and spin the narrative that way then do whatever it takes to make you feel better

[reef tundra]

Trying to call everyone else out isn’t helping your argument

[primal estuary]

i always see nat 1’s critical fails. i thought that was an official thing? maybe its like stacking +4 in unk

[woven flint]

My bladesinger harengon wizard was a menace.

There was one time he got a Triple Crit Steel Wind Strike

[reef tundra]

I would actually be on your side of the argument of us maybe reacting a little harshly to a new DM’s homebrew if you hadn’t started being rude to everyone

[woven flint]

He was feeling...
Motivated 🧐

[feral fulcrum]

I don't know if you've noticed, but plenty of people complain about crit fumbles sucking as a concept in general. Heck there was a discussion on it here a couple days ago IIRC.

[primal estuary]

amity’s right, yknow. as hard as it tends to be on the internet, there’s no point in being rude. being polite is the most consistent way to get your point across

[severe rampart]

There was

[crimson gulch]

yeah Crit fumbles are bad in 5e, when you have some players makking many rolls a turn and many never rolling on their turn its going to cause issues

[severe rampart]

honestly crit fumbling is such a horrible idea, at best you can maybe use it for like tools, carpenter's tools, caligraphy, etc. and even then you can fix it with mending

[jolly canyon]

I didn't participate afair but I remember that convo in general. It doesn't sound great

[feral fulcrum]

I like it as a concept when the DM isn't "Lol you die now." My DM has been them for 3 years and I've enjoyed every crit fumble I've made.

[flint ledge]

I don't particularly believe having a spell go haywire randomly or not function at all is a good thing permanently within a campaign and from the way it's phrased you need to make 2 rolls for spells one the spell effect and 2 the attack roll/saving throw

[feral fulcrum]

I've even taken optional crit fumbles because it makes things more interesting and amusing

[woven flint]

I don't like crit fumbles.
Punishes players for something they generally can't control when rolling nat 1's can already feel incredibly punishing

[primal estuary]

i’m not sure what crit fumbles usually are, but i just make them funny ways of failing, usually with no extra detriment other than looking like a dummy in front of dnd npcs

[reef tundra]

I think crit fumbles are good for incredibly chill, comedy tables, where you just wanna have a fun time with friends and have silly stuff happen. Some of my best early dnd memories came from silly things that happened from crit fumbles. But I agree they can be too harsh and punishing sometimes

[atomic kayak]

Crit fumbles are. Silly (derogatory). To say the least

[feral fulcrum]

They work best when used as an actual narative tool and minor mishaps, rather then as blatant punishments for rolling bad

[reef tundra]

And they shouldn’t be used in more serious games, I believe

[flint ledge]

They also punish martial characters a lot more if they have mechanical consequence

[elfin kraken]

Thank you!

[primal estuary]

i always thought silly was the point of critical failure. i thought “haha you
got a nat one, you slip on a conveniently placed banana peel”

[primal estuary]

shoutout to the world’s slowest typer

[lethal kayak]

I’m not even playing a full caster in this, I’m a barbarian with a magic subclass

[primal estuary]

does nobody else call em critical s(swear word)ts?

[errant crag]

That was the point of my example, an obviously terrible house rule that shouldn't be entertained

[elfin kraken]

That's me! 😉

[reef tundra]

Oooh which one?

[gusty charm]

Oh okay sorry. I can’t read lol

[woven flint]

Probably Wild Magic

[woven flint]

Average D&D player

[lethal kayak]

The custom critical role one, path of fundamental chaos

[feral fulcrum]

Reading the Thing Explains The Thing, But The Comunnity Cant Read.

[reef tundra]

Oooh now that’s some critical role content I haven’t heard of! I’ll have to take a look at it

[primal estuary]

i think calling any house rule “obviously terrible” is sort of a misstep. it all comes down to preference, and there are no objective preferences

[lethal kayak]

I also need to ask the dm about any rules for undead for,,, reasons

[woven flint]

My Knowledge Cleric is in a party of 5
2 of which can't read
He's a Librarian, so he's been trying to teach them how to read

[primal estuary]

maybe i’m misunderstanding what you’re saying, but that’s what i got from it

[lethal kayak]

It’s the subclass for Talesin’s campaign 3 character, Ashton Greymoore

[reef tundra]

I agree. While they can be very unfun at times, it can make for some very funny moments at a very chill table. Like I mentioned earlier

[errant crag]

Alright I'm gonna houserule that if somebody takes damage at my IRL game they need to let me smack their hand on the table with a ball peen hammer.

[gusty charm]

I wish I thought of this

[lean wigeon]

crit fumbles are good if you want your player characters to be incompetent

[woven flint]

Let's be honest
Who wouldn't love a nice grandpa-vibes old turtle man librarian trying to teach you how to read? 🧐

[reef tundra]

Ah, never got to campaign 3, that explains it. But I do often love Talesin’s characters

[primal estuary]

thank you for misunderstanding and making a joke about your own misinterpretation instead of just asking what i meant

[dim narwhal]

Aur naur

[errant crag]

A house rule can be obviously bad is the sole point I was making

[woven flint]

Me going to take damage on purpose:

[errant crag]

And there is no "Every house rule has merit and should be respected" because you can have obviously bad house rules

[lethal kayak]

If a player nat 1s an attack against an enemy with an ally close by that enemy, I have them hit their ally instead

[dim narwhal]

Like the take a hit, take a shot crowd?

[lean wigeon]

very good

[lethal kayak]

Double nat 1s are damage onto oneself

[primal estuary]

that’s not a dnd rule, though. your example just kind of… redundant?

maybe that’s the wrong word

[woven flint]

Like AOE saving throws doing critical damage on a nat 1 failed save..
Not just by the players, but by enemies too.
That's a houserule I've seen.

[lethal kayak]

How did my simple question on if I was overreacting turn into such a long fight

[reef tundra]

Well, that’s because everyone has differing opinions, if you collected the opinions of everyone and tried to add it all together as a unified collective, then… it’s gonna be very contradicting

[valid geyser]

at least with a double nat 1, that's very very unlikely
A nat 1 is a 5% chance. it's gonna happen more the more you roll

[severe rampart]

That's... certainly a house rule

[woven flint]

This is the Dungeons & Dragons server

Arguments are commonplace

[errant crag]

I run my games as close to RAW as I possibly can with very little house rules

[dim narwhal]

GTN

[woven flint]

Not always in a bad way, it's typically civil

[errant crag]

Because somebody who isn't you decided to attack people who didn't like the house rule

[elfin kraken]

What is RAW?

[jolly canyon]

🤩 passion

[errant crag]

It's not your fault

[valid geyser]

I think you could explain the downsides of fumbles on attacks in a lot of ways, like it penalizing fighters and classes who make more attacks, or how it hurts melee characters more, or just doesn't make your characters feel like they know what theyre doing, but of course fun is very subjective. I just don't know if it often adds fun for anyone

[flint ledge]

Isn't that an actual PF rule?

[woven flint]

Rules as Written

[errant crag]

Rules as written

[primal estuary]

i love house rules. i don’t know why you replied to me, i use em all the time and ill admit it

[reef tundra]

Rules as Written. Following the games rules exactly by the words

[severe rampart]

It happens more often that you'd think

[primal estuary]

i thought raw just meant like raw meat. unchanged, uncooked

[severe rampart]

I mean, it's a new argument, and I've checked off nearly a third bingo now

[crimson gulch]

most players dont need more help there

[flint ledge]

We have bingo cards here now?

[errant crag]

At least it's something new that we're arguing about and not the usual stuff

[gusty charm]

Send me the card lol

[valid geyser]

yeah pf2 has crit fails, but pf2's crits are not on solely a 1 or a 20, its 10 under or over the DC as well, so it can be more common especially when you add your level to every single d20 roll in pf2

[lethal kayak]

I love playing loosey goosey with rules. My only rule is being consistent with my rulings

[severe rampart]

I mean I do

[dim narwhal]

Faxxxx

[errant crag]

Oh I forgot about D&Dcord bingo

Somebody has to send me the bingo card

[severe rampart]

there's the AI talk, the "Martials are worse than casters", "Ranger is bad", etc.

[primal estuary]

something i hate about this server is how short fused it is. someone asking if their DM’s rules weren’t very good started this whole fiasco is something i wish i was surprised by

[reef tundra]

But I believe that some of us here should just calm down and stop speaking as if their words are the definitive, objective truth. We are allowed to have differing opinions and viewpoints

[elfin kraken]

You can pick and choose the rules. I have a group that has been playing together almost 30 years that still plays 3.5.

[feral fulcrum]

What's the free space, Alignment?

[lethal kayak]

I think failures are also good for storytelling reasons

[woven flint]

Hey! My characters are pretty competent!

My Dragonborn Fighter has helped the party flee combats twice because his friends ran the risk of dying even if he could keep fighting

[errant crag]

That didn't start it, somebody else attacking people for not liking the house rule started it

[severe rampart]

Indeed it is

[lethal kayak]

That’s actually really cool genuinely

[primal estuary]

touché

[crimson gulch]

this wasent even bad, no moderaters had to get involved no modron lines

[flint ledge]

Yeah yeah I know. What I'm saying is, it's not the most outlandish rule

[woven flint]

The free space should be "Ranger Bad"

[reef tundra]

I do my best to try calm it, but I myself sometimes get riled up too and join in

[severe rampart]

It doesn't come up as much as alignment I don't think

[valid geyser]

I agree with that statement, but I do have to ask to what degree. in my opinion, failures are good when they move the story forward, and for something like an attack, missing usually does not do that.

[primal estuary]

i think you did a pretty good job

[valid geyser]

of course, i just wanted to say its context dependant

[woven flint]

Search up Ranger in the server.

[primal estuary]

blasphemy keep my bowen a. row and other pun named rangers out of your mouth

[reef tundra]

Ty. I do my best

[elfin kraken]

Thanks.

[errant crag]

A house rule can be obviously terrible and there's no way anybody can change my mind on that

[flint ledge]

I think a majority of it is gonna land you in #optimization

[woven flint]

It's why I put it in quotations.
I quoted it, not that I believe it

[crimson gulch]

most house rules are Terrible

[lethal kayak]

I’ve never played a barbarian before so I’m pretty excited about that

[elfin kraken]

House rules are fine as long as everyone at the table agrees.

[primal estuary]

this is the point i’ve been trying to make this whole time

[lethal kayak]

I never,,, get to play

[errant crag]

I've been at plenty of tables where people agreed at first and then abandoned the house rule after it made the game worse

[reef tundra]

My condolences. At least we are in the same boat

[crimson gulch]

theres a chance they can be, but it makes things shaky if things keep changing.

[primal estuary]

it’s like that one cartoon trope where everyone’s fighting and then one dude just yells “STOPPPPP” and everyone stops

[valid geyser]

i think its easy to add house rules, but it's hard to add ones that actually make the game more fun.

[primal estuary]

so if it’s not good just drop it

[severe rampart]

86k results, Alignment has 25k results, I stand corrected, though Ranger is a class and that's why it gets talked more often, not all mentions of Ranger is about it being "bad"

[forest kite]

[woven flint]

New house rule
If I kill your pets in the game

I get to kill them in real life 👺

[errant crag]

And some people have the eye to know a houserule is bad before it even gets to that point

[elfin kraken]

That's one of the great things about the game IMO. You can try different things. If they work, great! If not, you can toss them.

[primal estuary]

kind of how trying stuff out works? if you try it and don’t like it, then don’t use it

[errant crag]

I don't need to try jumping off a cliff to know it's bad

[dim narwhal]

Basically some ppl house rule of you take damage you have to drink a shot of alcohol.

[woven flint]

It's not all the mentions, no.
But Ranger is probably the most talked about class in this damned game!

[reef tundra]

Everyone, let’s talk a little more civil, don’t try to exaggerate their words

[primal estuary]

dude where are you in this conversation

you’re like 10 minutes behind

[woven flint]

Content Farming /silly

[flint ledge]

I believe we have made our points here I don't see this going any further

[lethal kayak]

Attention seeking /j

[elfin kraken]

In my experience everyone can tell a rule is bad the first time you try and actually enforce it. It's all about what makes the game more fun.

[primal estuary]

ok what if we all just stop fighting and instead work together to slay the dragon

[errant crag]

Modern day DMs will do anything to nerf casters except actually run the game in a way that doesn't enable them to be OP

[feral fulcrum]

No, you'll steal the gold.

[lethal kayak]

And then we all kissed under the moonlight or something

[reef tundra]

Pink I am on your side for most things but this is a slightly childish response to someone trying to be positive about house rules that they like. While you may dislike house rules and play RAW, that doesn’t mean that their way of playing is wrong

[elfin kraken]

As a DM you have to adjust your play style for your table.

[primal estuary]

i love this reply

[errant crag]

You can run the game perfectly RAW and casters won't be OP, casters are only OP when people ignore or handwave important rules

[flint ledge]

@severe rampart you gotta let me know when you get your bingo

[primal estuary]

amity with another slam dunk of correct-ness

[woven flint]

Chat, clip this!
Watch someone bring out the steel chair on that random take somewhere up there

[severe rampart]

I already got two bingos

[primal estuary]

jt sounds like i’m glazing but bro just makes some good points

[errant crag]

Don't sit there and try to malign me because you misunderstood my point in saying that

Not everything needs to be tried to know if it's bad

Some things can be spotted as being bad without trying them

[primal estuary]

you gotta take a chill pill my dude

[elfin kraken]

Some players like role play, some like combat, some like puzzles, etc. As a DM you can adjust rules to fit the players at the table to make it more fun.

[errant crag]

It's not some grand stance against house rules

[primal estuary]

she was being as polite as possible and you’re acting like she just told you that you’re a pos or something

[flint ledge]

This has gotta be one of the worst ways to calm someone down.

[woven flint]

Some players like Jazz 🎷🐝

[valid geyser]

not everyone has the eye for that. I think thats why these house rules become common. People think they make the game for fun and random when it really doesnt make the game any more fun, possibly less fun and don't realize

[errant crag]

I am literally perfectly calm and you guys keep telling me to calm down because you are perceiving me as being angry

[primal estuary]

fully aware, just thought it would be funny

[errant crag]

Read the room better

[severe rampart]

Alright this is just turning into ragebait

[reef tundra]

You called everyone hypocritical and entitled

[elfin kraken]

IMO the mistake is what a DM makes a house rule because they like it, not because the players like it.

[flint ledge]

Pink, I think at this point you're talking to a wall trying to troll you

[lethal kayak]

Which was a genuine question like I actually wasn’t sure I thought I could turn to the people here for like,,, 3 replies of guidance and then be done

[turbid vessel]

i think we oughtta move on from this conversation, it's been going on and nobody is getting anything new or good out of it

[jolly canyon]

And cowards 😅

[woven flint]

Time to start Aura Farming in the corner and look cool and mysterious to get everyone's mind off the argument /silly

[errant crag]

If you feel it's not a good house rule you should talk about that with your DM and possibly ask them why they feel the need to implement it

[elfin kraken]

The worst DMs make house rules because that is how they think the game "should be."

[valid geyser]

I think thats an issue too, but they can definitely coexist
a lot of times people dont know what they want

[turbid vessel]

quick, diverting question! what's y'alls favorite ways to get into character before a game?

[primal estuary]

@idle oar will you help pretty please everyone is fighting and it’s like a repeat of my parents when i was a kid

[feral fulcrum]

Paladin spotted- oh wait not that kind of Aura.

[severe rampart]

I don't

Okay wth

[woven flint]

Copious amounts of alcohol. /joking

[primal estuary]

little ahh dude getting found in a mug of ale

[lethal kayak]

Bathroom voices time (vocal warmup in the shower before going to session)

[flint ledge]

I don't think undying needs to get involved in this

[crimson gulch]

One liner practice and evil laughs

[gusty charm]

Think about their motivations

[reef tundra]

I am a slight theatre kid, I normally just close my eyes for a mo and try to get into their shoes

[jolly canyon]

I like to practice the voice. It's never good unfortunately

[lethal kayak]

Though for me it was mainly remembering what voices I was doing for npcs lol

[valid geyser]

we could put the modron up, but i think things are shifting away

[primal estuary]

i like comical entrances tho. like falling from the sky

[gusty charm]

I’m so bad at voices

[woven flint]

I wish I could show you guys my voice I use for my Tortle Cleric, it's one of my proudest voice acting voices lol

[turbid vessel]

music is a big one for me, it helps me get more into the headspace of my characters, which helps me put on a more authentic act

[reef tundra]

Oh the pain of forgetting what voice I gave the NPC 😭

[gusty charm]

Do you make playlists for your characters?

[lethal kayak]

Worse is knowing the accent but not being able to replicate it

[severe rampart]

That's why you gotta give your NPCs your own voice

[reef tundra]

Meee I do. I love it

[turbid vessel]

much more than i care to admit

[primal estuary]

voices are hard for a lot of people, yeah. couldn’t be me tho, i’m a voice actor 😎

[woven flint]

He's a southern sounding old man with a bit of rasp in his voice, but also Librarian Gentleness 🧐

[severe rampart]

If only I could

[turbid vessel]

sometimes i'll listen to a song for the first time and my first go-to thought is "i bet i could make a banger character with this as the theme"

[elfin kraken]

When I am a player, I like to base my characters on archetypes. To get into character I watch, read, play, etc whatever inspired that character. For example, watch Conan to get ready to play a barbarian.

[lethal kayak]

I need to come up with a voice for my undead half orc barbarian

[primal estuary]

bold to assume i can afford any music platforms

[severe rampart]

totally thought you were talking about Conan the little detective

[crimson gulch]

i feel like ime done with gaming conventions, i have to cancel to many sessions to go to one

[turbid vessel]

can't you make playlists for free on youtube?

[reef tundra]

I like using my acting capabilities

[severe rampart]

Can you give me some

[gusty charm]

If you play them with enough character, you don’t need voices imo

[valid geyser]

when i played a character with a french accent, i'd try and quietly sing the french anthem to get the accent up. Now I'm trying a rather scottish charactr and i need to figure out something like that

[elfin kraken]

At least it wasn't Conan O'Brien

[severe rampart]

I'm compensating for my lack of range in my voice with details and descriptions

[primal estuary]

i love doing any voice but my own because my voice sounds like a really angry medium sized dog

[gusty charm]

Ofc they’re always fun

[reef tundra]

Sure let me just
Telepathically gives you 12 years of acting experience

[woven flint]

I actually find that my Tortle Clerics voice kinda sounds like my favorite gay old man Wainwright Jakobs from Borderlands

[gusty charm]

Dude give it a rest

[severe rampart]

Oh god... what is this... what is life...

[primal estuary]

give him a second he’s like 10 minutes behind in the convo

[reef tundra]

Hey we’ve moved topic now.

[errant crag]

The entire convo has moved on

[primal estuary]

he’s got no clue we are done. he literally is 10 minutes in the past

[turbid vessel]

i've got 2 different characters rn, one with a softspoken irish accent and one with a loudspoken southern accent. sometimes i accidently slip between the two when i don't mean to

[primal estuary]

like i don’t even think this is their fault, poor guy just doesn’t know what’s happening lmao

[gusty charm]

I had a PC who played with a ridiculous Russian accent, it was great

[elfin kraken]

Not everyone has the same acting skills as a DM.

[valid geyser]

yeah im struggling to do scottish. I know french so its easy to do a french accent but I cant do scottish to save my life

[severe rampart]

they're trying to get out of the host's body.

[reef tundra]

Ah maybe I accidentally gave you more memories than just my acting experience. Whoops

[woven flint]

My Warforged Pugilist is monotone, but has a very considerate and contemplative tone

[elfin kraken]

That's why I always liked playing with the theater kids when I was in college.

[primal estuary]

dude i love tortles but they need a lore change

why do they only live to like 60??

[reef tundra]

Ooh I don’t know tortle lore

[errant crag]

I never consciously think about what accent to give characters I just throw out what feels right in the moment they're introduced

[lethal kayak]

That was like half of my npcs lol

[elfin kraken]

Theater kids make the best DMs, in my experience.

[valid geyser]

because their whole motto is to live fast and die young

[jolly canyon]

Same

[gusty charm]

When I played in high school we all were in theatre, I think that helped rping

[primal estuary]

they’re just too small and die way too soon imo. that’s my only hang up

[severe rampart]

I don't read up on lore I hear about it in this server, and I don't hear about it I don't know it

[woven flint]

Tortles don't have much lore.

My dm cranked up their lifespan to 120 in his world, my Tortle is about 75-80

[primal estuary]

why would the turt be doing that??

[errant crag]

I dislike the insinuation of this

[gusty charm]

I was literally just saying this the other day, it should reflect how they live old in real life

[reef tundra]

I make my own lore, homebrew setting. But official lore is very gripping sometimes

[valid geyser]

why not? I mean, the ninja turtles seem like those kinds of guys

maybe i just like that its kinda subversive

[turbid vessel]

i treat campaign settings like i treat legos: pour the contents into my big bin and only use the instructions for inspiration

[elfin kraken]

I made up Tortle lore for a player at my table and invented the ancient rivalry between Harengons and Tortles.

[reef tundra]

Ahaha same

[severe rampart]

Wait that's how you're supposed to play with legos?

[elfin kraken]

Now it's a whole thing.

[woven flint]

My Tortle is a Knowledge Cleric

He has no idea what the hell martial arts are ... well, he knows, but he doesn't like doing allat lol
He walks with a Quarterstaff as a Cane and stuff
He ain't gonna be doing flips anytime soon lol

[primal estuary]

my DM cranked their age up too, i’m unsure to what but my tortle is 250 and still able to fight fine. he IS an old man, but he’s still kickin. they also let me have a large tortle. 250 years old, 12 feet tall, 3600 pounds. and he is my beautiful, old boy

his size doesn’t affect gameplay much besides making him suck at being stealthy

also, more importantly, he’s SCOTTISHHHH

[woven flint]

Mines Southern

Wainwright Jakobs as mentioned for an idea of what his voice is like lol

[severe rampart]

I find it difficult to do accents

[turbid vessel]

accents are fun but they're definetly not a requirement for good roleplaying

[primal estuary]

as do most, they are tough. i find them easier to learn when consuming media containing em

[primal estuary]

batteries included

[severe rampart]

alright... I got 32 hours before my Curse of Strahd session...

what to do

[woven flint]

Kill people and drink their blood to get in character for Strahd

[severe rampart]

Perhaps I shall take inspiration from sinanis and create a playlist for my character

I had a fun time roleplaying them this session

poor them, they are such a gullible little paladin

[turbid vessel]

one day someone will spell my username correct 😔

[woven flint]

My Celestial Warlock beat Strahd in a chess match

And was also the one to get the final blow on him lol

[severe rampart]

"Checkmate"

[severe rampart]

I totally did

[woven flint]

This wasn't in CoS but EoR

[severe rampart]

I feel so proud of myself, I gained advantage on deception because I used themautugy to make aura radiate from me, pretending I was using my channel divinity

then roleplayed my paladin fighting with themself so hard that the DM gave inspiration to everyone in the party

[woven flint]

I killed him with a 5th level guiding bolt :p

[severe rampart]

Darn, Strahd is that weak? 😭

[woven flint]

No, we fought him for quite a bit

But Guiding Bolt is pretty strong.
I JUST did enough damage to kill him before he escaped

[rough basalt]

Strahd is pretty weak

No aura too

[turbid vessel]

when i ran him i gave him a dragon transformation
it was relevant to a player's backstory, i didn't just do it cause dragons are cool, i SWEAR

[rough basalt]

He suffers from the most powerful debuff a villain can have

Ego

He doesn't think he can be threatened until hes already being defeated

[woven flint]

Strahd is intelligent

His Ego just outweighs it sometimes...
All the time.

[turbid vessel]

in my mind the most important part of strahd as a character is that he's an incel deep down
like, of course he's hot and superficially charming. IMO, if you're running him as anything more than surface-level attractive, you're running him wrong

[woven flint]

My dm just underestimated how determined I was to kill him

I jumped down a stairwell
Took fall damage, got up from being prone and sniped his ass with a guiding bolt

[turbid vessel]

his antisociality and perspective on people (especially women) directly influences how he got to where he is

[errant crag]

I think people overestimate the lethality of falling

[rough basalt]

Ye running strahd in CoS definitely requires some finesse. As well as some good above table understanding

[errant crag]

After a certain level you can kinda just fall and be likely to survive most falls unless you're already at low HP

[woven flint]

He also specifically targets Charismatic and Intellectual individuals if you play him well in his encounters before he actually fights the party.

He'll try to seduce, read you, compliment, etc

[turbid vessel]

after the party i ran read his tome the first thing someone said is "oh god, he's a redditor"

[woven flint]

He's manipulative, he's better than everyone else in his eyes, but he has a carnal YEARNING for someone who might be as smart or beautiful as he is

He's not as swag as Kas though

[blissful ibex]

5.5e conjure animals is so nice

[woven flint]

Kas is the vampire Strahd WISHES he could be

[rough basalt]

True

imagine only being 6'1 to 6'4 (Strahd)

And not 6'6 (Kas)

[blissful ibex]

A seperate ramming aura that moves when you move is just such a nice setup c:

[prime pewter]

Warforged sorcerers are only as weird as you make them. You could have dragon bones be used in a draconic sorcerers creation, wild magic sorcerers could go full infinite probability drive, ect.

[rough basalt]

tho he uses heel boots to make himself taller

[peak pecan]

Does Strahd have a kickass sword with his name? No, he’s got an awesome sword he’s weak to and a generic sword

[blissful ibex]

Whoever designed "Spirit Guardians, but at a distance" needs a raise

[empty thicket]

Yep, its funny in many ways. Clockwork is easy to make it fit

[feral fulcrum]

That reminds me, I shape-changed into a Solar Dragon and ate an Alternate Universe version of my Wizard once, and then she broke free like a year later...only to be immediately clapped by Planeshift to the Moooooon

Don't eat Fairies, they're apperently too tough to digest. Or rather, don't eat Evil Fairy Monks.

[primal estuary]

guys hear me out. a spell that lets you cast another spell. so basically you use it for free and then cast a spell

[empty thicket]

almost would say the same for warlock and warforged, why a machine would try to negotiate with such entities?
Until i thought, what if the machine is the deity//demon//patron itself playing and while he have more fun his power scale

[primal estuary]

surely they’ll realize that’s satire

[gusty charm]

No it’s genius

[empty thicket]

Welp.... if you make it be a "You can cast an extra spell in the same turn without any limit of lvl//components//class" would be too broken

obviously, would be limited By your spell list level, you wont be able to cast just wish instantly at lvl lets say 4 or 5 of which that spell would be avaible

No voice component, no material component so giga expensive ones wont be holding you back and would need to be X specific class spell, i would say wizard

If not warlock

[crimson gulch]

so, wish

[primal estuary]

nah, wish does stuff

you can use this spell and THEN use wish

but you’ll have to use the “use an extra spell” spell

and it takes up a spell slot

[primal estuary]

nope. you do this and then a spell

it doesn’t do anything except let you cast a spell

[empty thicket]

yep, but its the version i would make it be

If not a Feature of some of those classes

[primal estuary]

imagine having good ideas

[empty thicket]

or subclass

[empty thicket]

Any idea is good if worked out properly

[primal estuary]

what a chump. dudes being creative and resourceful with very limited knowledge given to work with

imagine. couldn’t be me

[empty thicket]

anyone can cook buddy

tho i just thought, ti can be just once per long rest or short rest that spell, so isnt that GIGA broken to spam just your highest lvl spell for free

And would need to be in warlock, because if its a lvl 3, 4 or 5 would be available for Eldritch knight and Arcane trickster.
I would like it to be more "exclusive".

[celest spire]

So apparently D&D made an announcement they aren't taking international orders through their international store any longer. They are folding it into the main D&D beyond site.

[empty thicket]

Nvm, the whole idea its a feature of Lore Bard.
Lvl 6 feature.
Still would try to make such thing like an item or smt like that

[charred gyro]

Hey guys quick question

Can i use 5.5e monster manual for a 5e campaign?

Does it have considerable stats change or is it just more monsters as ive seen on youtube?

[reef tundra]

The monsters are a little stronger but it should still work

[errant crag]

They rebalanced a lot of monsters in 5.5e monster manual

They mainly changed them to suit their CR better, so some got nerfed and some got buffed

[charred gyro]

Im DMin Avernus, and cant find the 5eMM in my language, so i was thinking about getin the 5.5e. What do u think?

[empty thicket]

they nerfed the 400 baboons strat?

[strong wave]

400 baboons and one type writer

[reef tundra]

5e MM has a lot more flavour text and lore explained in it, but I prefer the actual stat blocks of 5.5e. I still enjoy both, but it’s a trade-off

[rough basalt]

Ye the 5e MM isn't very good for play but lore is decent, where as the 5.5e MM is good for play, not as good for lore.

[strong wave]

That's annoying

[rough basalt]

Yep thats why it's a good thing they got updated.

[versed pollen]

What other spells give a bonus action usage like expeditious retreat?

[rough basalt]

The lore in the 5e MM was also very FR centric iirc

[versed pollen]

what i mean is a spell that gives recurring usage of bonus action, not that the spell it self is bonus action.

like how expeditious retreat give use of bonus action every turn, or hunter's mark to move the target, etc...

[plush ermine]

i really wish wall of ice was a druid spell

[jolly canyon]

Witch bolt? 🤔 I honestly have no clue what spells have reoccurring BA usage

[clever cove]

How to I play DND online with other people but only chat and no vc

[jolly canyon]

Ask #find-a-game and specify you want PBP games(Play By Post)

[humble panther]

AHHHH hello!!

[blissful ibex]

also, some VC games will allow text chat; you'd be muted in VC so you can hear everyone but would respond via text in the VTT or Discord depending

but ye, PBP is the tradtional text only format

[humble panther]

Embrassing, im not actually a player yet, never got around to it but i really want to

[jolly canyon]

^^ my westmarch games allow chat only play

[fossil hollow]

you wouldnt be the first, nor the last. Check out #dnd-newcomers

[jolly canyon]

As long as you state that you may get invited to a mixed party

[woven flint]

Did they.. leave?

[jolly canyon]

We were to friendly and to helpful

[severe rampart]

Rolled a nat 20 on intimidation

[feral fulcrum]

Did Shadows get properly ranked this time around?

[umbral girder]

Same as last time

[fossil hollow]

PWK doesnt increase or affect CR (aside from potentially dealing 12d12)

[umbral girder]

In fact shadows got an hp buff

They did lose the bps resistance

[fossil hollow]

sidegrade

[umbral girder]

Also the new encounter rules now accounts to not have a ton of them there higher level the players go

With the rule being “don’t have more than double your player count in monsters”

[feral fulcrum]

Good, that was the biggest pitfall of them.

[errant crag]

Is it reasonable to stop inviting one of my players to any of my games because they didn't want to play in one of my games because I wanted to try and track carry capacity

[fossil hollow]

seeing how that tends to be a big part of campaigns that include them, yes

[feral fulcrum]

It's a reason to stop inviting them to games you intend to use Carrying Capacity, yes. Not as a wholesale thing.

[hot marlin]

Let me try another question: Is it ever unreasonable to not invite someone?

I would say no.

[feral fulcrum]

It depends entirely on the reason.

[hot marlin]

You have no obligation to invite anyone.

And a reason not to invite is uneeded. A reason to invite is more needed

[errant crag]

Well he wanted to play in my game and almost had his character made but when I said we would be trying to track carry capacity for this one game he backed out

Just as an experiment to try tracking it

[feral fulcrum]

It's only ever unreasonable if it's say, Racially motivated, or because of their gender.

[hot marlin]

Oh yeah, of course

[errant crag]

I think there's plenty of unreasonable reasons to remove somebody from a game beyond those two things

[hot marlin]

Yeah, kinda forgot about that being a possibility. But it does not apply in this case, thankfully

[errant crag]

Like if I kicked my player because he beat me in MTG on a day we weren't playing D&D

I think that would be unreasonable

[hot marlin]

There is a difference between removing someone and not inviting them

[marble hinge]

wild

[errant crag]

Alright well imagine I said not invite rather than kicked in that statement

[hot marlin]

If I host a party at my house, not inviting a given person and kicking them out in the middle of the party will be received very differently

But at the end of the day it is still my house. I get the final say on who is allowed inside. Unless they have a warrant, but that feels like a different issue

And I don't think you can get a warrant forcing someone to run a D&D game for you

[fossil hollow]

that sounds like holding someone against their will

[hot marlin]

Uh... Imagine being kidnapped by people who force you to run D&D.

[hot reef]

unreasonableness depends entirely on the context

[hot marlin]

Anyways yeah, to go back to the original point: I don't think it's unreasonable. And, to add, I think dropping out of a game because the DM decided one of the rules of the game, not even an optional one, would be respected during that game, is a bit disrespectful.

Inventory management is not an optional rule. It should be considered to be part of the basics of the game, and expected in every game until the DM says otherwise

[feral fulcrum]

Old witchbolt was an action IIRC

Yup, action.

2024 is Bonus Action.

[jolly canyon]

I'd love it if my dm did carry capacity. I don't do it cause my players didn't want it. I do bring it up tho if they try carrying large heavy objects tho

[broken imp]

lol yea me too, like idr if they are carrying 1 sword too many but i'll tell them if they're trying to carry like say 100 swords

[errant crag]

Also I'm certainly not gonna do this just wanted to see what y'all would say

[errant crag]

I believe Melfs Minute Meteors does

[broken imp]

explain everything in session 0 man

[errant crag]

Debating if I should take Heavily Armored on my artificer so I can wear heavy armor and just dump dex to push my other mental stats up higher

Cartographer Artificer gets so much stuff at level 3 it's kinda wild

[versed pollen]

i just realized you can add your wisdom twice on arcana checks with 1 cleric level and 1 druid level.

[paper portal]

Yeah it's great for mizzium

[broken imp]

u can try but beware of enemies who's atk doesn't use ac for hits

[fossil hollow]

... You mean saving throw effects?

[zenith osprey]

Should I make a helldivers artificer

[empty thicket]

what would be the gimmick? stratagems?

[feral fulcrum]

No, because such things don't really work in 5E.

[broken imp]

yea, i said that because idk if there's anything else

[shrewd wigeon]

How much is too much for a dnd backstory page wise using google doc ??

[empty thicket]

half page
Make it easy but good, let it explain well your character ways

[crimson elm]

Looking for at least one more for a group to run tonight. 18+ story is called How Do I Look? Quest to find amulets.

[shrewd wigeon]

dang i got too much

[empty thicket]

one whole page is too much and more if you need to kinda explain how your character works

[crimson elm]

Already have a post. Need one more

[jolly canyon]

Can't recruit out of that channel in this server. A mod may bop your post here real soon.

[empty thicket]

or in other places of your town (other channels like #find-a-game )

[crimson elm]

I already have a post in that channel. I'm not spamming. Just seeing if anyone here is down to hop in on the spot

[jolly canyon]

Even a single post asking for players gets deleted when not in that channel. Idc who asks for players in other channels. Not my server not my rules. Just letting ya know is all. Good luck finding that last one. Hope you get someone.

[silent sleet]

important question , say i have a cr 1 creature that can cast darkness , how much would their cr increase if i gave them the ability to see in magical darkness , making them unaffected by the blinded condition while everything in the darkness still suffers from it , nothing else is changing about the creature

[fossil hollow]

Devil's Sight does not increase CR

Neither does Blindsight, Tremorsense, and Truesight

[silent sleet]

oh , i forgot devils sight was a thing , what creatures have that again?

[fossil hollow]

Devils

[silent sleet]

should've guessed lol

[delicate owl]

probably fey

[normal canyon]

hi

What's devils sight

[feral fulcrum]

A Devil's magical sight.

[fossil hollow]

And a devil thing

[feral fulcrum]

And a Warlock Invocation

[rough basalt]

Warlock invoc that gives you 120ft of vision that let's you see through natural and magical darkness.

[normal canyon]

ok

[silver dove]

I’m trying to make a homebrew gambler class, since the one I found online and have been using is… bad
Would anyone be willing to help review it once I have the framework down?

[fossil hollow]

#homebrew

[silver dove]

Oh, thank you

[empty thicket]

sounds good, its worth of it?

wait, its like dark vision