dnd-discussion

[viral kraken]

spell points only allow 1 l7 1 l8 and 1 l9 per day right? it explicitly restricts high level spells i thought

[knotty vine]

Oh yeah thats right

[viral kraken]

oh even only 1 l6 per day

[toxic wigeon]

Spell slots do that, I'm not sure about spell points

[knotty vine]

Hes right

[glass granite]

Spell slots don’t do that for levels 6,7,8

[vast saddle]

It's official. I'll never get any roleplay-heavy campaign again

[viral kraken]

na spell slots let you get more of the high level slots, like 2 l8s for instance

[knotty vine]

Spells of 6th level and higher are particularly taxing to cast. You can use spell points to create one slot of each level of 6th or higher. You can't create another slot of the same level until you finish a long rest.

[glossy otter]

Hey guys, question of curiosity. Trying to think of a good gift for a friend who's a fellow dm. He's got mordenkainens but I wanted to ask would anyone know of any other big monster manual expansions to get (he loves bestiaries)

[vast saddle]

Feels sucks. It means I'll be typecasted as a pure combatant

[toxic wigeon]

Also like does a level 9 warlock have 10 spell points?

[knotty vine]

so you only get 1 6/7/8/9th level spells

[glass granite]

Well that feels pretty conclusive. Why you so confident?

[toxic wigeon]

Why not

[knotty vine]

warlocks dont get to use the spell point system

[toxic wigeon]

Huh

[vast saddle]

I got rejected from 2 roleplay-based campaigns 2 times in arow

[knotty vine]

The Spell Points by Level table applies to bards, clerics, druids, sorcerers, and wizards. For a paladin or ranger, halve the character's level in that class and then consult the table. For a fighter (Eldritch Knight) or rogue (Arcane Trickster), divide the character's level in that class by three

[vast saddle]

Just because I'm being open about my neurodivergence

[toxic wigeon]

Ooh, you should try pbp I think

[glass granite]

That feels like a pretty small sample size for “never”

[vast saddle]

Maybe I should quit if neurodivergence is an issue in roleplay

[humble cairn]

That's a statistically insignificant sample size, it's illogical to think this means it will never happen.

[knotty vine]

It only applies to full half and qurter casters

[toxic wigeon]

Damn, warlocks aren't even mentioned

[knotty vine]

cause warlocks are weird

[vast saddle]

Oh wait.....I remember....I actually get rejected 4 times

[glass granite]

Point still stands

[humble cairn]

Still statistically insignificant.

[toxic wigeon]

Also like, isn't 70% of dnd populace neurodivergent?

[knotty vine]

You just gotta wait

Its how i got into my games

through I hardly get rejected

[glass granite]

Ehhh, bump that up a lil higher /jk

Also i actually got invited to two games and I wasn’t even looking for them

[humble cairn]

You know how I got in my current group? I chatted with people over in #character-discussion for over two years. Got to know the people in there and become friends with them, then I was invited to a group.

[knotty vine]

Its cause your nugget

[glass granite]

Did the exact same thing but in #dnd-newcomers

[glass granite]

I’ll take that as a compliment?

[knotty vine]

It is a compliment

[glass granite]

Yippee

[fast latch]

You just get unlucky with groups or players sometimes

I know, I had to deal with a toxic player for like 5 months

[humble cairn]

Could also be read as "It's cause [is/,] your nugget." Just need to find out what "it" is and why your nugget has become its cause.

[glass granite]

They’ll need to specify which nugget too

[knotty vine]

That reminds me i gotta flea a dnd table I joined recently

[toxic wigeon]

It took me a year to find a group that didn't end within 2 sessions man, it's alright, you'll get through it.

P.S. if you are open to pbp games, I'll take you in

[toxic wigeon]

Like run away or scam?

[knotty vine]

One of the players asked "are you a real girl?" 3 diffrent times and when I told him to stop he said I might be trans

and the dm did nothing to stop it

[toxic wigeon]

Sheesh

[glass granite]

Oof

[fast latch]

Oh my lord

[humble cairn]

Oh yeah, you dodged a bullet there.

[toxic wigeon]

Why haven't you left yet

[knotty vine]

I Just now left

[toxic wigeon]

Cool

[knotty vine]

I was tired from working last night

[toxic wigeon]

Damn, sorry

[lyric viper]

That is a big oof and glad you've left. Up to you if you think it worth dropping a note to the DM about challenging that in future. I doubt trying to message the offending player will achieve much sadly.

[vast saddle]

Thanks, but...I will only play in UTC +7 Time Zone

[undone bloom]

why base your games off time zone? just base it off game time

[vast saddle]

If I do....I don't need sleep at all

Or maybe be a nocturnal

[undone bloom]

no i mean like, don't restrict yourself to a time zone. if someone plays at the time you're available, why does it matter what time zone it is?

i once had a DM in UAE who woke up at 4am his time to run for us

[vast saddle]

Majority of the games here happen when I have to sleep

[toxic wigeon]

I am UTC+5:30

[vast saddle]

Wait! 5:30 time zone exists?

[glass granite]

Mhm

[vast saddle]

I don't believe it. It's either UTC +5 or +6

[toxic wigeon]

We have a community of people with +5-6 timezones

[fast latch]

Try finding a game that’s an hour earlier than your time zone maybe

[toxic wigeon]

Which includes UTC+5:30

[glass granite]

I’m UTC +10 usually

[undone bloom]

again, time zone should not matter 🤦 it's the game start time that matters

[glass granite]

Restricting to one singular time zone will make it harder to find games

And as mentioned time availability is more important

[toxic wigeon]

There's this small place called the Water Nation that exists and operates at UTC+5:30

[toxic wigeon]

I think he should instead say games that are more friendly to someone from the UTC+7 time zone

[undone bloom]

oh my GOD dude

[toxic wigeon]

Is that not what he means?

[vast saddle]

Yes

[knotty vine]

/time

[vast saddle]

Also.....playing with someone from UTC and earlier may give my body a huge toll

[toxic wigeon]

(Also pretty sure timezones don't matter, mostly, for pbp games)

[undone bloom]

let's say, for example: your availability is 9pm-12am. if someone runs a game at that time, then their timezone does not matter

[vast saddle]

Are you Batman?

[undone bloom]

they could be in -5 or +11, it does not matter what time it is for them. it matters what time the game begins relative to you

[toxic wigeon]

I am Batman

[vast saddle]

Because Batman only needs 3 hours to sleep

[undone bloom]

i feel like i'm talking to a brick wall with kindergarten reading comprehension

[toxic wigeon]

Uh.....

Celeron

[undone bloom]

just. pick. a. game. that. plays. when. you. are. available.

[toxic wigeon]

Maiden is basically saying, look for games that appeal to your schedule (whatever it may be), it doesn't matter when the game is held in the DM's time zone, as long as it is okay with your schedule

[toxic wigeon]

Also, like, can I ask where are you from

[vast saddle]

Indonesia

UTC +7

[toxic wigeon]

Were you born there?

[vast saddle]

Have been living here my whole life

[toxic wigeon]

Cool

[glass granite]

I’m in Indonesia rn actually on holiday, but that’s unrelated

[toxic wigeon]

That is new tbh

Anyways, yeah, basically look for games that translate well into your availability times

@undone bloom you calm?

[undone bloom]

i stepped away before i actually crashed out, ty for translating

[fast latch]

What happened?

[undone bloom]

context is in the conversation

[fast venture]

The mods are probably gonna mute/warn you for this

[undone bloom]

then report it idk

[fast venture]

I don't care, I'm saying the mods do

[undone bloom]

if i broke a rule, i get a consequence. no need to be a mini-mod

[glass granite]

I doubt it’d be a mute, but anywho Lez move on

[undone bloom]

or just like... doing their jobs

but that's off-topic

[jolly crypt]

Hey DM’s how do you handle font of magic when variant rule spell points is used.

[undone bloom]

#dm-discussion would be a good ask

[agile hemlock]

simple answer: just replace conversion from spell slot to sorcery points to spell points to sorcery points and vice versa

Spell points kind of follow the same progression as spell slots anyways; I'd argue the rule is better for understanding than anything else, or like if you have mechanics to restore spell points like you would hit points and it'd be awkward to say "this potion restores a total of x spell slots of these levels," which is basically Arcane Recovery's verbiage (but it's not difficult to do, just hard to explain)

But that's just-a me, Mario

[toxic wigeon]

It's alright

[humble cairn]

I'm UTC +7, but I'm also not running games at the moment.

[gloomy hinge]

So... i'm new here. Is there any chance i can find a new party for dnd?

and how to do it

[severe rampart]

you can find many, in #looking-for-players

[lavish flame]

If you're new to D&D, you'll want the stuff in #learn-to-play . After there, if you have questions, ask away in #dnd-newcomers . Then you'll find a group in #find-a-game

[viral kraken]

the how is covered in #find-a-game

[gloomy hinge]

No no i'm not new in DnD im new on this server

I played a lot with my friends irl

[wicked glen]

I like how jump is a spell

[crimson gulch]

Yeha its a really good one now in the new handbook too

[umbral girder]

It’s a nice spell to boost someone’s jump distance

Helps those with terrible strength

[severe rampart]

also you don't gotta argue if jumping is athletics or acrobatics

[cerulean monolith]

I keep forgetting that you’re… 14 hours ahead of me? My brain really struggles to comprehend time zones lol

[fast venture]

I think spell points is the better magic system personally

[humble cairn]

Currently 9pm Thu April 9th for me.

[fast venture]

Allows for more flexibility in your spells

[cerulean monolith]

Yeah my brain doesn’t get it

[undone bloom]

oh wow, literally opposite the world from me

[fast venture]

And imo makes it way easier to make a more comprehensive spell list because you aren't having to consider level by level

[humble cairn]

I'm from the fuuuuutuuuure!

[woven flint]

Ophid!
You'll be happy to know
My Bugbear Ranger has gone two sessions in a row without taking damage (Careful Positioning/Luck)

[humble cairn]

It works so well, until it doesn't!

[woven flint]

I dunno, my Bogeyman feels like he's kinda built different /silly

[humble cairn]

Ooh bogeyman, Gloomstalker?

[severe rampart]

It is quite wild, in nearly all of my DnD games I am 11-13 hours ahead of my DM

[tacit dagger]

HALLOOO strangerss

[humble cairn]

Getting up for a 3am game is tough.

[woven flint]

Yeah
His name is Bogey (BO-gee) too lol
He works for the Zhentarim and was in an arranged marriage with a Wood Elf woman who absolutely dotes over him.. she's a Druid

[crimson gulch]

Most of my players are within 2 hours of my time zone, but I have had a handful of European Australian and east Asia time zone players too

[wicked glen]

Locate creature…. Locate Animals or Plants

[humble cairn]

That had tohave been an interesting arrangement.

[jaunty fox]

Hello

[gray sierra]

Hi I'm new hehe.

[severe rampart]

Hello New, I'm Echo

[woven flint]

It was, but they found genuine love within eachother

She even makes shampoos and soaps and such for him lol
Which he always keeps with him

[gray sierra]

That might as well be my name haha.

[undone bloom]

oh deer

[jaunty fox]

Urm how do

[tacit dagger]

where?

[severe rampart]

Not the deer puns again, doe!

[gray sierra]

A female deer.

[jaunty fox]

How does one play d&d

[severe rampart]

You can go to #find-a-game and learn more

[viral kraken]

or #dnd-newcomers

[gray sierra]

Thanks that was my question too.

[woven flint]

Hello, new people, welcome to hell
If you need help learning about D&D
#dnd-newcomers is a good place to start

[severe rampart]

Oh wait, you mean play as in the rules- uhh probably by checking the free rules in DND beyond

[tacit dagger]

Hell?

[gray sierra]

I played BG3 so I think I'm actually a pro.

[woven flint]

Yeah, I'm being silly, don't worry

[woven flint]

BG3 is a game inspired by D&D 5e.
Not all the rules work the same
You'll still need to learn how to play lol

[tacit dagger]

it's summer and is a good hidden hobby to nerd out

[gray sierra]

I'm sure I will be humbled immediately lol.

[jaunty fox]

I’ve never had anythin to do with d&d and I’m very confused

[red steppe]

this, and certain classes are much more powerful in bg3 than in 5e

[jaunty fox]

I hear my friend talking about all the time and I got some dice from him and now I wanna learn

[woven flint]

It's alright!
At least you know the basics
Classes, Ability Scores, Action Ecenomy and Rolling dice

It definetly translates over quite a bit

I hope you all have a fantastic time learning how to play and have many games ahead of you :]

[jaunty fox]

An how do we get to play

[woven flint]

Well, for starters
#dnd-newcomers will help you get started learning things

Then when you're confident on your knowledge, you can look in #find-a-game!

[jaunty fox]

What do I do in there js speak ?

[still plover]

Say something like "hi, I'm new, where do I get started?"

[woven flint]

yeah, generally, just talk! Ask questions if you need to, people don't usually mind helping

You don't need to know the entire game like an encyclopedia, so don't worry too much about doing that

[undone bloom]

it also helps to read through the Basic Rules

[woven flint]

Yeah
Both 2014 5e and 2024 5e have free basic rules online to read
It's up to you which you want to play, but generally, except for some changes, the rules are the same on how you play

[jaunty fox]

How long are the rules ?

[woven flint]

Hmm..
I, personally, read through them pretty fast when i started, but it shouldn't take TOO long to read through

My best tip is to take your time
Reread something and ask questions if you don't understand something

[umbral girder]

The core rules is probably like 10ish pages? Majority of the rest is stuff you can build your character with.

Items, races, feats, classes etc

[jaunty fox]

TEN PAGES

[toxic wigeon]

Eh, it's more of a FAFO situation tbh

That's the easy way tho

[undone bloom]

if ten pages is too much for you, this game may not be a good fit

it is a storytelling medium, after all

[jaunty fox]

No I love reading I wasn’t expecting ten pages tho

Rather excited 😀

[umbral girder]

The player's handbook is 300+pages of content too.

[jaunty fox]

Oh my god

[umbral girder]

Remeber Content does not equal Rules

[jaunty fox]

Can I quickly ask a few questions ?

[umbral girder]

Might want to ask in #dnd-newcomers

[shadow fulcrum]

yo

[severe rampart]

Hello

[glad ferry]

I dont even know if there's a way to know dnd like an encyclopedia

[still plover]

There's the Forgotten Realms wiki, if you're looking for published lore. If you're talking about rules it's just a game.

[proper forum]

There is. I have two or three friends who are like that.

[true monolith]

Mylords, Myladies, Dudes and Dudettes, I got a question for yall, my group is currently discussing whether to use the OLD surprise rules for initiative or the 5.5 ones. To make sure we dont oversee any major issue with any of those I wish to know your thoughts on the topic

[fast latch]

What’s the difference?

Okay, I looked it up

In my opinion, the old rules are better since it rewards whoever gets the Surprise Round with a free turn

And they deserve the reward for playing smart

[rough basalt]

I like new better

Old was too rewarding for either side imo, so if enemies got a surprise on players it could easily be a tpk

[woven flint]

Enemies having Disadvantage on initiative when surprised is the new one, right?
If so, it's significantly more fair for both sides

[rough basalt]

Still gives a notable advantage without being a case of "whoever gets surprise wins by default"

[fast venture]

That's kinda buns imo

Especially since group initiative is superior

And if a party gets surprise attacked that's on them for not being more vigilant

[tawdry sentinel]

You'd also have advantage on your own intitative assuming you're starting combat hidden.

[woven flint]

I mean, thats an opinion
But one free round of combat against enemies is more common than ambushing players.

[true monolith]

i feel like if we use old rules, we might just jump NPCs more often as it heavily rewards the surprise aspect

[woven flint]

I can't tell you how many times in 2014 rules groups we've just shredded encounters because of one free round.

[true monolith]

As a result, reducing the amount of interactions with NPCs bcs its just safer to sneak attack. Then again, what if you attack the wrong people bcs of a lack of information?

[rough basalt]

yeah old surprise rewarded surprise farming too much

[fast venture]

Rewarding good planning and execution of a plan isn't a issue imo

[halcyon forum]

yeah surprise was OP in 5.0e

[rough basalt]

Wasnt really planning

just "alright we pass without a trace and hide, alright free round we win" repeat

[fast venture]

Well that's on the DM for letting players abuse the mechanic instead of making it something they work for

It's like flanking rules

[halcyon forum]

while the DM could creature situations where you cant get surprise, a party that tries to get it, could get it fairly often in 5.0e

Pass without trace just means they always succeed on their stealth checks if they can make one

[true monolith]

I agree with Omegon, it isnt a rule discussion when the party scouts a group of people with their familars or sneaky rogue and decides to just surprise attack them instead of talking it out

[blissful ibex]

rather like new surprise
Disadvantage against enemies due to surprised condition and advantage for you for being invis on the init roll is really nice

[rough basalt]

And if your dm makes situations where you can't always sneak attack you're gonna whine on reddit or here about them being a bad dm

[fast venture]

+31 stealth rolls my beloved

[true monolith]

NPCs just have their passive perception, no? Thats what you use for "repetitive" rolls, like rolling perception the entire time to scout for enemies

[rough basalt]

passive of 13 dont help against a 25+ roll

[blissful ibex]

and if only part of the party is hidden they get advantage while everyone else just rolls normal c:

[fast venture]

Guess we are making rude baseless assumptions now

[halcyon forum]

yeah with proficiency and PWT, you are already at +12 in tier1

[jolly canyon]

I like the current surprise rules. Maybe I'll do like one combat with the old surprise rules and see how I like that

[blissful ibex]

need passive perception to notice something might be there and then the search action to actually find it

[rough basalt]

Theres also the issue of a lot of dnd players thinking sneak is like Skyrim where you just crouch and do anything you want and enemies just go "mustve been the wind"

[rough basalt]

Nah I've seen posts like this on reddit

[blissful ibex]

ye, gotta keep to cover and stay out of LoS

[fast venture]

This

[true monolith]

Tbf, there are posts on reddit for everything, lets not get too invested in those

[rough basalt]

Ye DnD reddit are the final bosses of can't read.

[fast venture]

I once made a 'sneak' attack by charging a magical railgun like a thousand feet from a big ol monster we were dealing with and blasting a hole in it

That was fun

[rough basalt]

The average 5e player is casual illiteracy

Reddit 5e players are top ranked competitive illiteracy

[true monolith]

The main worry i have is that 5.0 surprise is such a massive advantage to have, players might just start fights instead of interacting with encounters as a core-behaviour

[fast venture]

Jjk fans are #1

[rough basalt]

Internet DnD fans are the JJK fans of tabletop games, don't play, don't read, act like do.

[fast venture]

True!

Wait-

[jolly canyon]

Is that why I've seen no shortage of ppl coming in here asking for jjk dnd games?

[halcyon forum]

people hate on reddit but its one of the better social media sites left. its just really big and can get hive mind-y sometimes, so the bad takes stand out

[fast venture]

Nah I overthink like everything in combat or out

[rough basalt]

Ye smaller reddits imo tend to be better

[blissful ibex]

It's just popular RN

[rough basalt]

But the big reddits like r/DnD and r/DnDNext are just cesspools of "muh dm railroaded me by telling me the monster rolled a 24 and did 16 damage to me"

And thousands going either "bad dm bad dm" or "I havent played since 2e and back then 16 damage meant you instantly died!"

[halcyon forum]

these posts are the exception to the rule in my experience.

[rough basalt]

Regular dnd one i see more art and other creative posts, but dnd next is the one moreso thats like it

[fast venture]

Mfw the wizard stubs his toe and his soul explodes from 1d4 toe stubbing damage

[woven flint]

Ah yes, Wizard takes 1d4 damage and dies

Stares at OneshotQuesters guy with disdain

[halcyon forum]

i feel like the perception people have of r/dndnext is more like r/dndmemes. dunno where its coming from

[fast venture]

On the topic of bad dms, I wish more people in general understood difficulty is different from unfairness

[blissful ibex]

tbf, I've had a sorcerer ally trip over a bedframe and instantly die (proced an OA that crit for exactly twice max HP)

[rough basalt]

The dnd next comment sections

[valid geyser]

i could make good money by being an instagram reels d&d meme account. anytime theres a funyn video of an animal i can just have a caption that mentions a druid

[halcyon forum]

I mean if you sort by new maybe

[fast venture]

Difficulty is when you try and brute force something and get folded for it

Unfairness is when you optimize everything you possibly could and still get steamrolled because numbers

[severe rampart]

... eugh

[rough basalt]

Any post I end up seeing I see them. The final bosses of can't read and probably don't play dnd.

[severe rampart]

OneShotQuesters is one of the biggest larpers of DnD

[rough basalt]

Facebook dnd pages are definitely the worst tho

[halcyon forum]

okay again, its not like this place is full of good takes every day

[fast venture]

Who the hell is that

[halcyon forum]

bad takes are gonna be more common the bigger a community is

[shadow fulcrum]

what is the issue with one shots?

[rough basalt]

DnD Next at least sometimes says good takes

[woven flint]

Oneshotquesters is a D&Dtuber.

[rough basalt]

That only played dnd for the camera notably

[severe rampart]

OneShotQuesters is a popular content creator that reinforces stereotypes and misinformation in D&D

[halcyon forum]

who allegedly doesnt even play dnd

[blissful ibex]

Youtube shorts creator that makes dnd memes shorts

[shadow fulcrum]

ohh

[rough basalt]

He started making dnd shorts cause his wife told him dnd stereotypes that might get him success

[fast venture]

Slime fren!

Just noticed that

[woven flint]

You probably know him for Ahem
Oath of Throwing it back Paladin
Wizard takes 1d4 damage and dies
Fighter hits things a lot
Warlocks Patron is their sugar daddy

[severe rampart]

and not only that, berated a kickstarter campaign... and he allegedly didn't even pledge to it either

[rough basalt]

He did it cause they didnt hire him

[woven flint]

The ONLY jokes..
That he EVER makes

[halcyon forum]

those are pretty much all his jokes for the last couple of years

[blissful ibex]

also the usual bard stereyotype

[fast venture]

Oh ew that dude

[valid geyser]

and "artificer builds an f-16 fighter jet"

[severe rampart]

The biggest red flag is if they treat Vicious Mockery like "ohh snap, I rolled a nat 20 on my vicious mockery and the king's head exploded!"

[rough basalt]

He was one of those people who thought Vicious Mockery was a nat 20able roll

[severe rampart]

Oh hey same brain wavelength

[blissful ibex]

yyeeaaaahhh

[rough basalt]

He was essentially the personification of r/DnDMemes

[blissful ibex]

VM is an okay cantrip at best >.>

[rough basalt]

Without the occasional irony

[severe rampart]

VM is a bad cantrip at worst

[blissful ibex]

falls off hard as early as like tier 2

[valid geyser]

i remember one time when i played an artificer someone at the table suggested i build a tank to climb a mountain. I don't... think it was 100% serious but he did ask with some confidence like it was a possibility

[severe rampart]

Not as bad as 2014 VM (1d4 damage...)

[halcyon forum]

VM is mostly useful for the debuff before multi-attack becomes too common

[rough basalt]

Killing enemies with old VM was funny

dying to 1d4 damage just had a infinite embarassment factor to place upon the enemy

[halcyon forum]

the cantrip version of Power word kill

[severe rampart]

the true mockery

[shadow fulcrum]

firebolt >

[severe rampart]

Firebolt is solid

but have you considered... Eldritch Blast

[fast venture]

EB superiority

[snow python]

So im looking to form up a group in my local area, since 3 people have left the table, and was just curious if my requirements too strict or precise.

"I have a CoS campaign getting ready to start soon, its level 1 - 20, ran by my friend, and he is adding all the lore to CoS to make it a 1 - 20 campaign. So committment will be needed for like 5+ years, the game will be ran at my house in [location], we are needing two to three people that will be availability on Saturdays 4pm - 9pm. We also have a 13 year old playing, so preferrable to have table manners, and patience, but also enthusiastic, and timid. We will pretty much be carrying her though the campaign. Our table has ran Icewind Dale for 2 years, and Wild beyond the Witchlight for 6 months (it fell apart because someone got a better paying job, and changed their work hours, and the other had to drop because they had a new born, and they bought a home somewhere else."

[fast venture]

I'm going to obliterate you

[woven flint]

My favorite cantrip is shocking grasp.

It's simply electrifying

[rough basalt]

the 5+ years and a minor playing is probably the biggest obstacles

[severe rampart]

The only thing that bothers me is "preferrable to have table manners, and patience, but also enthusiastic, and timid.", I feel like it's not strict enough, imo

[rough basalt]

like 5+ years for a module that may take up to a year normally and thats with several cancellations can be intimidating

[severe rampart]

some parts it's too strict, other parts not strict enough

[rough basalt]

Also 5 hour sessions

[severe rampart]

make it clear that everyone at the table need to respect each other, especially since there's a teen playing with y'all

[snow python]

not 5 hour session, just any time between those hours.

[rough basalt]

Ah

[snow python]

and its bi-weekly

[rough basalt]

Ah then biweekly probably 2 years normally

[fast venture]

This might be a weird take, but I hate bi-weekly

[rough basalt]

Yeah me too

[fast venture]

I understand why in terms of scheduling and stuff

[severe rampart]

maybe just don't mention a "it will take 5 years", just say that it might take a couple of years

[fast venture]

But God I just struggle to stay motivated with the gaps

[rough basalt]

yeah 5+ years for a single campaign a lot of people are gonna be like "uh, i want a long form game but idk about that."

[snow python]

2 years for a 1 -20 campiagn? Icewind Dale took 2.5 years bi weekly, 3 hour sessions, and it was 1-14.

[severe rampart]

never had a hiatused campaign?

[fast venture]

Unfortunately yes

[snow python]

I too hate bi-weekly. I would love to play every day :p

[rough basalt]

Ye ive wasted a year with a dm who kept going on hiatus's for CoS

[severe rampart]

I've been playing in this one campaign for... about 5 months now, so far we're only 2 sessions in

I still like it, of course

[rough basalt]

"guys i didnt prep this week"
look inside played helldivers 2 40 hours this week
Repeats several times in succession

Dude just refused to admit he didn't actually wanna play dnd, he just wanted the idea of it

[severe rampart]

It's quite strange, other DMs don't prep the session on their down time? I feel like I do it so quickly that I'm left bored all week, just waiting for session time

[rough basalt]

And like a module is there to make prep much faster

[severe rampart]

I'm excited about something that will take at least 6 weeks to come to fruition

[rough basalt]

His laziness really made that year rough

Cause the VTT he used was the one VTT a lazy dm should never use

[severe rampart]

Roll20? Foundry?

[rough basalt]

Fantasy Grounds

[severe rampart]

shudders

[snow python]

that was me when I dm. like i prepped for next session right after the session so everything was fresh in my memory.

[rough basalt]

If the dm is lazy, its basically unpaid manual labor for the players

[severe rampart]

Owlbear Rodeo is the goat

[rough basalt]

Owlbear Rodeo is what you should use if you wanna be a beer and snack play once in a while dm

[severe rampart]

I do, as I've said many times, hate the storage limit but it's just so darn good

[severe rampart]

-# or you know, if I like how simple it is...

[rough basalt]

Fantasy Grounds is for people who put everything in their life on Excel spreeadsheets

[severe rampart]

I am hoping that I could buy Foundry one of these days

[rough basalt]

I never said thats not the case

[fast venture]

I still am searching for a campaign

[severe rampart]

every day you get closer!

[fast venture]

I wanna play my silly little fae girl

I wanna go on adventures with her

[rough basalt]

Im saying if you're a guy who just wants to run dnd once a month cause you dont wanna put effort in, Owlbear can be as basic and simple just put a map and tokens down

Don't use the C++ of VTTs

Like you know those overexaggerated hacker skit montages where they're lightning typing on the keyboard and thousands of code is printed in an instant?

[severe rampart]

Ahh

[rough basalt]

Thats how it is to use Fantasy Grounds

[severe rampart]

that's why Fantasy Grounds isn't as popular as the other VTTs

[rough basalt]

Funny enough its the 2nd most popular paid vtt i think

[severe rampart]

how big is the gap from Foundry

[rough basalt]

Foundry is tough learning curve huge payoff

[tall pelican]

Can we all agree that an arcane trickster probably wood elf rogue is the average Skyrim character?

[rough basalt]

Fantasy Grounds is complete excruciating pain and torture learning curve, slightly bigger payoff in some degrees

[severe rampart]

more DM-sided, yeah?

I've been contemplating buying it for quite some time

[rough basalt]

FG if the DM doesn't master it and get their degrees at the Fantasy Grounds academy it can be an unplayable mess for players

[fast venture]

Arcane midster

[rough basalt]

Its basically a case of Fantasy Grounds walked so Foundry could run

[tall pelican]

Why do you say that?

[fast venture]

Because it's a terrible class?

[halcyon forum]

foundry is incredibly powerful due to modules but its also not easy to learn and you will have to fix a lot of issues yourself

[woven flint]

Arcane Trickster is NOT terrible lol

[tall pelican]

Yeh

[rough basalt]

FG is the old man past his prime stuck in his ways that can still do it
Foundry is the son wanting to do things easier but not too easy

[fast venture]

Rogue barely has good subclasses, pretty much just assassin and swashbuckler, or mastermind and....I can't remember the other investigator one

[severe rampart]

Arcane trickster is fine

[tall pelican]

It's like a free multiclass into wizard without sacrificing a rogue level

[severe rampart]

Yeah, I feel jumping from Owlbear directly to Foundry will be difficult

[fast venture]

Is it Inquisitor?

[severe rampart]

Inquisitive

[rough basalt]

Personally I didn't like Owlbear so I bought Foundry

[severe rampart]

I might treat myself on my date of birth and perhaps buy myself Foundry

[fast venture]

Got it

[rough basalt]

Foundry is like riding a bike kind of

once you can do it, its pretty easy

[woven flint]

Thief, Arcane Trickster, Swashbuckler, Soulknife and Scion of the Three are all pretty good Rogue subclasses

[still plover]

-# The Ordo Hereticus would like to know your location.

[severe rampart]

Uh oh... I've never learned how to bike... /j

[rough basalt]

Me neither

[severe rampart]

I gotta learn how to bike now to play DnD, sigh 😔

[woven flint]

Rogue just has a huge gap between subclass features which is why they kinda feel bad

[rough basalt]

The biggest hurdle for foundry is basically hardware

[fast venture]

I LOVE soul knife vibe

[severe rampart]

How do you mean

[fast venture]

But God it needs damage scaling so badly

[rough basalt]

It doesn't need high end computers but if players have very poor hardware they'll have a lot of issues

[woven flint]

It quite frankly, really doesn't lol

[fast venture]

If you use daggers as a rogue you are just picking the worse option

[woven flint]

You're doing
A rarely resisted damage type and have infinite throwing Daggers for free.

[fast venture]

Shortswords and rapier are better

[rough basalt]

You need like low end to regular gaming PC amounts of RAM roughly

[fast venture]

Dagger is just when you need a holdout weapon

[woven flint]

I mean

Soul Knife does 1d6.

[severe rampart]

every time I play the demo of Foundry the urge to buy it grows stronger

[rough basalt]

8GB to 16GB of RAM

[fast venture]

Does it?

[rough basalt]

So if a player has like 4, theyre gonna be in trouble

[fast venture]

I swear it was 1d4

[woven flint]

Soul Knives are in fact, just better Daggers

[woven flint]

That's its secondary attack.

[junior jasper]

Hi everyone!

[woven flint]

1d6 main attack then you can throw an offhand one for 1d4

[fast venture]

Ah

[junior jasper]

Bye everyone!

[fast venture]

Still I think some level scaling would be nice

Not a lot mind

[severe rampart]

Is it borderline unplayable at that point?

[fast venture]

Probably just a dice up at like.....13?

[woven flint]

It's fine where it is, especially in 2024 where it has the Vex property

[rough basalt]

Yeah you need a PC that was made at least near the end of the 2010s

[fast venture]

Oh soul knife got updated?

[rough basalt]

Can't run foundry with the 20 year old handmedown laptop well

[woven flint]

And sneak attack more than makes up for any of your Scaling needs

[fast venture]

I need to see that

[knotty vine]

I thought soul knife was good

[woven flint]

Just play Rogue smart, honestly, that's all you need to do

[severe rampart]

Rogues are so fun to play

[woven flint]

Rogue is one of those classes that actually kinda require a bit of thinkin' ya know?

[rough basalt]

Like I have a pretty decently high end PC for gaming and if I overdo it with effects i can have some minor issues

[woven flint]

Which is why I'm bad at Rogues lol

[humble cairn]

Soulknife does very consistent damage that can't be taken away from them, but also you kind of have to realize that it's not a Damage subclass. It's a Utility subclass.

[rough basalt]

But part of it is my war on weak PCs /j

I will destroy their PCs in dnd and their PCs irl

[fast venture]

I just find sneak fishing to be boring as hell

[woven flint]

Yeah, the fun thing about Soulknife is that they're always armed regardless of equipment

[severe rampart]

Oh I just got the joke

[rough basalt]

But yeah you need a modern decent PC to run foundry comfortably

[woven flint]

That's just.. kinda how you're supposed to play Rogue

[fast venture]

Which is bad design

[woven flint]

No?

[humble cairn]

Soulknife has a way to very rarely fail on Skills and they get the functionality of Rary's Telepathic Bond 6 levels before any caster does. Which is great for remaining in contact with your party when off scouting, somethign Rogues often are tasked with.

[fast venture]

Tbh rogue would work much better as a debuffer class

[woven flint]

A lot of classes play around a singular gimmick.

[severe rampart]

Random question to my PCs on the day before the session "hey by the way what are your PC's RAMs?"

[woven flint]

The worst designed is Hunters Mark.

[humble cairn]

You not liking something .. doesn't make it badly designed?

[rough basalt]

There is a module to optimize performance on the users side but if the PC is too weak itll die to 1d4 superior power damage

[woven flint]

Rogue is consistently always decently pretty strong if you just play them right

[fast venture]

the warforged in the corner

[rough basalt]

I just link people the system requirements usually

[humble cairn]

Which Ranger isn't focused around anyway, so it's deficiencies really don't take away from the class much.

[fast venture]

In a game with an already pretty basic combat system, lacking variety in combat is kinda bad design

[woven flint]

I know, I'm just saying it's the worst of the class gimmicks imo

[rough basalt]

Next game I recruit for ima put "Must have a PC that can run Crysis"

[humble cairn]

Hunter's Mark really isn't a huge gimmick that Ranger is focused around.

[fast venture]

It's why I enjoy half casters the most

[woven flint]

2024 fixes this for literally every martial

[fast venture]

Because they get actual options

[woven flint]

Rogues actually get debuffing in exchange for some sneak attack damage at later levels in 2024 rules

[umbral girder]

Also weapon masteries for more debuffs

[lean wigeon]

Pa

[rough basalt]

Barb gets some debuffs and utility in exchange for their reckless advantage

[humble cairn]

Rogues don't really lack variety, especially with Weapon Masteries and Cunning Strikes.

[lean wigeon]

pa

💥

[fast venture]

Tbh I might do a homebrew rogue class for 2014 that's based around debuffs over sneak attack (poisons, blinding bombs, etc)

That sounds fun

[rough basalt]

Like later on Barbarians can give people disadvantage on their next saving throw with Brutal Strike which is very good

[fast venture]

Holy wizard synergy

[woven flint]

Literally.. most of your complaints I've seen about Rogue are pretty much fixed in 2024 lol
Besides being based around doing sneak attack, but it's like.. one of the stronger martial gimmicks especially if allies or you have ways to give yourself an attack off turn

[humble cairn]

Like .. implementing the 2024 changes?

[fast venture]

I would have to look at the changes

But maybe, but a lot of people still use 2014

[rough basalt]

Yeah cunning strike is a bunch of conditions

[humble cairn]

But also, Rogues work just fine and aren't badly designed. You don't have to like them, but again that doesn't make them badly designed.

[fast venture]

Works fine doesn't mean the design is good

[woven flint]

Scion of the Three is like..
One of the stronger Rogue subclasses at the moment because when something gets bloodied they can teleport to it as a reaction and attack it

[fast venture]

A weapon that does 1000 damage is good, but that's poorly designed

[rough basalt]

yeah i love it

It even gets a cunning strike to frighten

but we're in a campaign with only undead so i never use it

[halcyon forum]

rogues are a well designed class, maybe the damage numbers need some tweaking but the core design is very good. there is a reason it gets the best satisfaction ratings in every survey

[fast venture]

That sounds really cool

[humble cairn]

The design is fine. I think you're conflating your own preferences with "good design."

[woven flint]

I don't think sneak attack is poorly designed at all
It encourages team coordination and synergy

[halcyon forum]

the subclasses are so-so though

[rough basalt]

its really easy to get sneak attack too

Especially in 2024

[severe rampart]

100 ways to get advantage

[rough basalt]

Since you can give yourself advantage by running Hand crossbow for vex then a nick weapon for sneak attack like i do

[woven flint]

Also.. Steady aim is a main class feature now instead of something optional
Don't have an ally in 5 feet of someone? Sacrifice movement and get advantage on the target

[humble cairn]

I think basically all of the redesigned subs fro 2024 are great, personally.

[rough basalt]

and if you're a ranged only rogue, always use steady aim when you can for advantage anyways

[halcyon forum]

AT, Thief and SK are good, but I think assassin and dead 3 are lacking a bit, but yeah most rogue duds are from 2014 rules

[woven flint]

I'll tell you what
Playing a Rogue
Your best friends are gonna be the Melee folk or a caster that can give you Advantage like through Faerie Fire, Guiding Bolt or Silvery Barbs

[severe rampart]

Martial just near the enemies, you have advantage

[woven flint]

You'd be surprised, Scion of the Three is pretty damn strong

[humble cairn]

And yeah, that kind of encouragement of cooperation is great! It's designed for team play, which is great design.

[halcyon forum]

Ive seen it in play and I am not whelmed

[woven flint]

It LOOKS Mediocre, but it puts belt to ass

[halcyon forum]

you just dont get enough uses of bloodthirst imo

[woven flint]

I mean, yeah, I guess, but ya just gotta be careful with your usage of it
Save if for things that REALLY need killing

[halcyon forum]

its like, the typical rogue can use bloodthirst twice per day. thats basically the subclass

maybe later 3 times

even if you focus on INT, you start with 3 uses and get 5 max in tier 3

and the subclass doesnt do much else

[woven flint]

I do agree that WOTC needs to stop with the INT Rogue subclasses 100% though lol

Bloodthirst should've just scaled off of Dex modifier imho
(As it should)

Wow! The subclass gives you a CANTRIP? let's make it an INT subclass.

[halcyon forum]

Cutthroat. You regain one expended use of Bloodthirst when you finish a Short Rest.
this should be level 3, not freaking 17

[ripe pilot]

Guys how does a swashbuckler x eloquence bard sound for say lvl 12?

[fast venture]

Rogue also suffers from hatred of flanking rules from dms

[rough basalt]

I rarely use the bloodthirst teleport

Cause I'm the one who always puts targets into bloodied

[halcyon forum]

rogues dont need flanking rules at all

[humble cairn]

No?

[rough basalt]

Nah it doesn't

[fast venture]

To get consistent sneak attacks? Yeah you do

[woven flint]

Oh yeah!
Have any of you tried 2024 Knowledge Domain Cleric?
That shit rocks! Lol

[rough basalt]

No

Also no to cleric, I want to tho

[halcyon forum]

nah. Ive never needed flanking to get those

[humble cairn]

Flanking rules are optional for a good reason. If you include them there'd be too many ways to get Advantage.

[fast venture]

How else are you getting advantage on all your attacks

[humble cairn]

Steady Aim?

[rough basalt]

Ally within 5ft.

[humble cairn]

Hide?

[rough basalt]

Vex, Hide.

[fast venture]

Isn't that only ranged attacks?

[halcyon forum]

you only need it on one attack, and you have
-steady aim
vex
hide
your team
etc

[rough basalt]

Skulker feat is nice for making hiding better

[woven flint]

Steady Aim
Or ask your friendly caster if they can take Faerie Fire, Guiding Bolt or Silvery Barbs

[fast venture]

If I'm using a ranged weapon I'm either a fighter or a ranger

[halcyon forum]

plus, you can get sneak attack without advantage

[humble cairn]

No, and I can see why your opinions are flawed, it's because you don't know the rules.

[woven flint]

Also, use Vex weapons, gives you advantage on your next attack roll

[fast venture]

Then which thing am i thinking of?

There's a thing that's specifically related to ranged attacks

[rough basalt]

Not on rogue, pretty sure.

There's a Fighter sub that doesn't work if you're not using a Bow.

[fast venture]

in my experience my casters couldn't give less what benefits the team

[woven flint]

Arcane Archer

[woven flint]

Then maybe you haven't had good teams?

[rough basalt]

Ime there's usually one caster using control magic.

[fast venture]

Probably not

[rough basalt]

If there's multiple.

If it's one caster it's sometimes control magic.

[humble cairn]

My Ranger is constantly trying to Restrain enemies.

[woven flint]

Clearly you haven't played with a based cleric such as myself 😎 /silly

[rough basalt]

I usually use support spells as Paladin. It's fun.

[fast venture]

No cause the clerics never wanna be support because "whaaa I don't wanna be a support cleric"

[woven flint]

Bro
Clerics can support and still kick ass lol

[fast venture]

When cleric can be both a damage monster and a support with the same build

Yeah

It's somewhat domain dependent on which side you lean towards tho

[halcyon forum]

I think its sort of unfair to blame a class for others not being team players

[rough basalt]

I don't think I've ever had a real cleric in any of my games.

[woven flint]

My Knowledge Cleric isn't the strongest person in the party, but I like to believe he's a pretty good damn help lol

[halcyon forum]

so thats why you kill so many PCs lol

[rough basalt]

They've always been "clerics" with dumped wisdom

[fast venture]

No I'm saying the cleric stereotype makes people stubborn towards being useful

[woven flint]

My War Cleric was probably the most nutty person in his party because his backline rarely ever got damaged lol

[halcyon forum]

IDK, to me the cleric stereotype in 5e is Spirit Guardians goes brrrrr

[rough basalt]

I also roll really stupid as a dm

[fast venture]

True!

Spirit guardian is clerics fireball for wizards

[rough basalt]

Can ask Tokii. I either miss or crit

[fast venture]

Or EB for warlock

[halcyon forum]

in one of my current games, my monk is playing cleric taxi atm

its fun

[woven flint]

I think Sora can attest to this?
You were there, right, Sora?
It was me, you, dawn and grey, right?

[rough basalt]

Ye

[woven flint]

Karkas was a BEAST!

[rough basalt]

The Fighter with Pathfinder hit bonus too

[woven flint]

Real
Our party was super cracked

Cleric, Fighter, Sorcerer and Wizard

[umbral girder]

Yeah Tokii’s cleric was wild

[fast venture]

Has rune knight gotten updated?

[woven flint]

If you wanna play a Badass Cleric?
Be a War Cleric

[fast venture]

Cloud rune my beloved

[rough basalt]

No it didn't need updated

[woven flint]

Nope

It's still able to be used with 2024 rules

[fast venture]

I love that loony toons ahh rune

Nice crit, would be a shame if you killed your buddy with it

[woven flint]

It's probably STRONGER with 2024 rules, actually because fighter overall is just stronger

[fast venture]

Storm rune is also just...so so so broken

[rough basalt]

Battlemaster Fighter is still the king, but yeah he's got friends now.

[fast venture]

Free advantage for a whole minute is insane

[rough basalt]

I wanna play a Battlemaster Fighter sometime

[woven flint]

When 2024 Cavalier Fighter drops, I wanna play it

[rough basalt]

Since it's only weakness in 2014 was that Indomitable sucked and now that it doesn't its an unstoppable hulk of a class/subclass

[woven flint]

I also wanna mess with Gladiator and Hellknight If they ever make it

[fast venture]

Does centaur get the benefits?

[rough basalt]

Gladiator this Winter. Hellknight next spring.
Believe.

[fast venture]

Since you are sorta....always horse

[woven flint]

I think that'd be up to dm ruling, but usually no because they're not mounted

[fast venture]

Is hell knight like a death knight kinda class?

[woven flint]

No, there's Path of the Death Knight though, which is a feat chain

[fast venture]

Centaur riding another horse to get mounted benefits....that's.... really funny and really stupid

[woven flint]

I need to buy a new mount 🗿
I keep forgetting

Eh, we're heading into a city

[rough basalt]

Get a polar bear to ride

My Pet Semetary has grown dusty. It needs a new entry.

As well as the player cemetary.

[fast venture]

I hate that spelling

[rough basalt]

Maybe I should run Tomb of Horrors sometime soon.

[fast venture]

So much

[woven flint]

I mean, in the story the Cemetery was made by kids, so..

It makes sense lol

I'd almost be offended if it WAS spelled correctly

[rough basalt]

Put Tokii through the pinnacle of doors and traps and traps and doors

[severe rampart]

Would an animated broom of attack count as a pet...

[rough basalt]

Yes

[severe rampart]

Great then I got two currently buried

[woven flint]

Sora knows I have Mounted Combatant and would definetly be taking damage for my mounts instead lol

That's how he kills me /sillly

Orizontas already lost his childhood horse

He's not losing another companion while he's alive

[severe rampart]

I wonder if you're a rogue and you have mounted combatant that it means free sneak attack because your mount is technically an ally...

[woven flint]

Yeah?
But also because if your mount is larger than your targets you just have advantages

[rough basalt]

Gets new mount
Runs into white dragon
Breath

[woven flint]

I've found that mounted combat just typically isn't worth it for Rogues (but that's just my humble opinion)
Because rogues typically wanna take as less damage as possible and most mounts can be oneshotted and mounted combatant is just risky because while you could take damage for your mount, you'd probably just be better off letting it die
Also, you're just as mobile as most land mounts anyway

But that's just my opinion

[rough basalt]

I like mounted Paladins the most.

[woven flint]

Most martials get ways to have extra movement anyway
It's usually Fighter and Paladin that could benefit the most from mounts lol (unless they're flying mounts)

[woeful wolf]

I’m planning a one shot with the setting based inside a hotel soon. I’ve played before (one shots and a long running campaign) but this will be my first time dming. I think I just need some ideas on combat encounters, how much to plan and things like pacing. I don’t know I’m kind of scared 😭

its going to be a heist where majority of the combat will be against staff and guests I’m hoping

[fast venture]

Badass butler.

That's my only suggestion

[lunar finch]

^ I second this

[humble cairn]

Mounted combat lets you use Steady Aim and still move. It was useful on my Rapier rogue. Course, he didn't have Mounted Combatant.

[austere root]

Mounts are crazy, especially if it's phantom steed in an open air area where you can kite and outrange something

[woven flint]

Gotta have a murder mystery

[austere root]

Reinhardt had the right idea raining down thunder from horseback

[woven flint]

Yoy see? I don't do kiting, I like to get right up to buisness and smack a fool

@austere root
Love your pfp btw

[austere root]

Fair fair, also thanks

[runic void]

does anyone have any ideas for

how to create a dragon lair

[austere root]

Depends on the personality of the dragon

[lunar finch]

What type of dragon are we talking about

[crimson gulch]

i google for maps and use one that looks nice

[austere root]

And their social status, are they simply a dragon living in a cave somewhere or the royal of someplace? Do they have a reason to assume humanoid form?

[runic void]

an ice breathing dragon (design based off of the yu-gi-oh Blueeyes white dragon)

that protects the nearby village

[woven flint]

Hmm, so a Silver Dragon 🧐

Silver Dragons also breathe ice! And typically live among humans and Elves, shapechanged into a form like theirs)

[lunar finch]

First thought is a large Ice Cave/Cavern on a tall mountain overlooking the city.
@woven flint brings up a good point too about shape shifting, they could live in the city like a noble.

[umbral girder]

Silver dragons have portraits of their best friends from the hundreds of years of life

They are possibly the most social of dragons

Though they are rarely at their lair

[runic void]

Thanks i needed a lair for eggs

[lunar finch]

No problem, glad i could be of help!

[umbral girder]

Tier 4 games have rewritten my brain

I saw a fighter with 170hp and went "Why is your hp so low?"

[woven flint]

Lol

[umbral girder]

I like having big hp numbers

Playing a level 3 Barbarian with around 42 hp and every time I see the Wizard’s hp I feel shocked

[lunar finch]

lol

[delicate owl]

Me like big hp number

[kindred wyvern]

If im doing illusions for the party do I just not announce it to the party?

As GM?

[umbral girder]

Unless they have a way to reveal it yeah

[kindred wyvern]

Cause I find telling people someone cast illusion just to be ugh to deal with

[lavish flame]

One of the strongest tools in ur belt is when to lie. Illusions are a good occasion to lie

[umbral girder]

Oh if they are doing it in a fight then yeah I can see it being iffy

[proper forum]

Does yalls D&D groups have a name? Ours does. We're called D.I.V.A.S. It's the initials of every party member (Donna, Ishtar, Velron, Aelissa, Strix)

[kindred wyvern]

In an rp I was doing

Enemy cast illusion to make s bridge and my friends was like im just casting a protection spell in case theirs enemies on the otherside of the bridge not cause I think the bridge is an illusion. He failed the investigation check but he casting protections spells fpr believable reasons. His character has to believe it but logically he can cast protection if his thinking their could be a monster on the other side of the bridge so it makes sense

[proper forum]

I think it's better if you did

[lavish flame]

This is something I've always wanted (cuz my primary inspirations for D&D includes like... The X-Men, the Fellowship of the Ring, and the Black Company), but my group hasn't ever really done it organically. Closest we ever got was calling ourselves "Dragonslayers" in a Tyranny of Dragons game

[kindred wyvern]

You mean did not announce it right?

[lavish flame]

Yeah I wouldn't announce it

[proper forum]

If you're going to do illustrations of each party member it's better if you tell them. What if they don't want to?

[lavish flame]

Especially when the illusion is "a bridge an enemy is supposed to fall through" i would not announce a trap like that

[proper forum]

I think I misunderstood what the conversation was about

[kindred wyvern]

Yea tahts makes sense. Illusions be causing fights at the table

Not with me specifically but I've had experiences

Abd it got physical and stuff and I was like over a game tho?

[proper forum]

Someone beat you up?? In real life?? Over a game of D&D??

[kindred wyvern]

Not me but friends of mine have gotten into fights like that

At the table

[lavish flame]

some friends of yours should not be playing D&D

[hollow basin]

thats a bit violent

[austere root]

That's absolutely cringe-inducing

[proper forum]

I am shook and flabbergasted. Holy sixth house. Peak unemployed behavior.

[austere root]

Grown-ass people shouldn't fight over a table roleplay.

[kindred wyvern]

It can be frustrating tho dealing with difficult players or Gms

[hollow basin]

yeah

[austere root]

Normal people walk out if they're that frustrated.

[hollow basin]

yet i never played dnd and i dont see why people gets a,gry that hard

angry*

[proper forum]

Now to admit my own mistakes... I once cried for 2 hours because of D&D. During the game. That was 3 years ago and I'm still embarrassed about it. I've learned to manage my emotions since.

[hollow basin]

its a lot to learn dw

[proper forum]

Scratch that. It was 4 hours.

[lavish flame]

Admittedly, I think crying and being angry and frustrated is all just part of the D&D experience. You will get pissed and sad and upset when you play D&D. Doing toxic shit (like fighting someone) because of how you feel isn't cool in any situation tho, D&D included

[thorn wedge]

I can imagine wanting to fight someone who’s being really disruptive or annoying at the table, I can’t imagine actually doing it.

[proper forum]

Yeah but we can all agree I overreacted. It was just a game and I shouldn't have let it affect me that much.

[jolly canyon]

Aye you admit it and that's good. We're all flawed. As long as you're not always doing it and the one off/rare time you do you apologize to everyone. That's all we can ask of people I think.

[kindred wyvern]

Yea like this one game I was in the GM was saying you can cast invisibility but then they said invisibility broke because they were using a gear to climb a wall and he said he said only attacks break invisibility and the GM was like yea you're striking the wall with your climbing gear so that counts as an attack.

Silly stuff

[blissful ibex]

such an utterly clown tier ruling

might as well require attack rolls to take a step and not fall on your ass; and now "whoops! your invisibility dropped"

[thorn wedge]

Your foot was striking the floor, therefore you have broken invisibility. Roll initiative.

[still plover]

"You couldn't see where your feet were. Or the clown shoes I put on your character."

"Games are fun!"

[blissful ibex]

Same sort of garbage as a DM ruling that invisibility gives you the blinded condition because the light passes through your retinas

dnd is not a Physics engine, things do what the rules say they do
using a Climbing Kit does not constitute an attack roll in any reasonable interpretation

[proper forum]

Yeah that's what's important. Recognizing your mistakes. And I haven't done it again.

[lyric idol]

I'm so glad I've bever dealt with DM's like that.

[thorn wedge]

I don’t think a climbing kit even has like an axe or anything. It’s just gloves and rope and pitons. I guess it says it has boot tips

But that is still so dumb.

[rough basalt]

I think i remember a dndtuber reading a dnd horror story about this exact situation and acting out a skit of it

[jolly canyon]

ZachTheBold? Xp to lvl 3?

[rough basalt]

xp to level 3

[crimson gulch]

and now im on vacation from running games, no sessions for 12 days as i take my family to mexico

[jolly canyon]

Well earned

[proper forum]

Yeah we all hate that one player who knows the rules better than the DM and corrects them

[spark elm]

I feel soo embarrassed cus I dm and I aint that knowledgeable 😭

[jolly canyon]

Not me cause I'm sure most players know the rules better than me

But I keep the dmg and phb on hand

[blissful ibex]

Me, I'm that player

[rough basalt]

this is way way more than most players or dms do

[blissful ibex]

I primarially play AL though so it's a bit more reasonable there >.>

DM appreciates me linking the relevant rules when something comes up so he can review it quickly

[serene jolt]

Me 🤣

[jolly canyon]

I won't sell myself too short. I actually learn more and more every day. But it'll take time before I can memorize most the rules. Maybe when I have 1 year worth of experience? 🤔

[rough basalt]

A lot of players downright refuse to learn the rules

a good amount of dms too

[serene jolt]

But tbf as my bard I casted a spell that gives a creature the frightened condition (protecting the backliners from being squashed) and they said 'okay the creature is facing away from your character so they aren't frightened anymore'.

I was like 'In DnD, that is not how it works'.

I had to pull up the rule about frightened and everything so they understood.

[jolly canyon]

I did try to sit and read the dmg but it's hard to focus for me so I read bits and pieces at a time

[rough basalt]

ye correcting the dm isnt a bad thing

[blissful ibex]

I'm to the point where I have to include like 3~5 different sections from the free/basic rules or various SAG articles in my character information we send when we join a session due to some of the shenanigans I sometimes utilize

[rough basalt]

Doing it in bad faith or trying to correct them on a rule they're using correctly is when its bad

[serene jolt]

That's fair. Sometimes I do that sometimes but then I look it up, find out I was wrong, admit it, and we go with what the DM said.

There are soooo many rules that sometimes I have that dumb moment.

[rough basalt]

True, i guess i mean when you insist you're incorrect "correction" even when proven wrong

[still plover]

For the DMG that's perfectly fine.

[rough basalt]

Dont have to read the dmg front to cover

[blissful ibex]

the thing I tend to reference most often out of the DMG is the Line of Sight/Cover rules

[rough basalt]

i say Chapter 1, 2, 3, and 4 are the most important to get down initially

[blissful ibex]

1 out of the PHB and 1~4 of the DMG

[rough basalt]

5.5e dmg anyway

[green epoch]

H r u ???

[serene jolt]

Oh yeah no. I may be considered a 'rules lawyer' but I also believe in honesty and admitting when I'm wrong.

I do not like when DMs do something like "I turn around" when they have the frightened condition. It's like "Okay so did I waste a 2nd level slot (as a level 4 character), an entire turn, a setup turn (mind sliver) and a silvery barbs just for you to say "I turn around".

[lavish flame]

its a textbook, u dont gotta read it in one go

[proper forum]

I did not mean to offend anyone, I just find it a little annoying when it happens. So did our DM.

[rough basalt]

5e DMG i think its like chapter 4, chapter 9

[jolly canyon]

I doubt anyone got offended

[rough basalt]

Very bad formatting that one

[jolly canyon]

At least not by these responses

[wintry spindle]

what are we talking about?

[jolly canyon]

Dms getting rule lawyered by players

[rough basalt]

Not really. I just would rather a table full of rules lawyers who actually have their dnd law degrees than a "vibe based table" or a "I learned from dndshorts table"

[wintry spindle]

Ah. Thats always a tricky one

[blissful ibex]

reasonably rules lawyer-ed, at that

[serene jolt]

I mean if they all have the same mindset, let them play how they play and I'd just find a new table. Tbh. It's a game at the end of the day.

[wintry spindle]

As a DM I like being corrected if it's done correctly

[rough basalt]

true

[thorn wedge]

I’ve see a fair amount of forever DMs that just get used to running the rules wrong and don’t want to change. Sometimes they have a ton of homebrew rulings they’ve made to accommodate the fact that they misuse other rules even.

[rough basalt]

Or they have homebrew changes that are actually already rules

[jolly canyon]

I will be DMn a one shot on Sunday for experienced players. I'm intimidated but gonna do it anyway.

[serene jolt]

But personally as a rules lawyer, I also prefer tables that value rules (but make small exceptions here and there for a 'rule of cool' moment as long as it doesn't ruin the game for others).

[rough basalt]

"I have a homebrew rule where you can only long rest every 24 hours"
me: stare

[wintry spindle]

As a player there are also just certain rules i keep better track of if it relates to my class. For example if my subclass is very light focused I keep track of the light rules which some DMs can be confused about

[blissful ibex]

with emphasis on the exception being a one time thing and not setting some sort of precident

[rough basalt]

I'm pretty against rule of cool, tho I'll make exceptions within reason sometime

[serene jolt]

Like in my situation, I wouldn't consider the fact that my DM thought turning away from a source of the Frightened Condition to be a 'rule of cool' because it wasted 2 spell slots and 2 turns for something that isn't even RAW.

But if a player was like 'can I use this spell to try doing this instead' and they allow it, if it makes sense, then I'm totally 100% for it.

[rough basalt]

ye the "muh realism" dms are often the most aggravating imo

[wintry spindle]

One is allowing eldritch blast to hit items is fine with me

[blissful ibex]

At least it functions to let you know your DM hasn't read the rules very closely

[valid geyser]

Rule of cool things with frighten are usually the weird ones, aren’t they
I remember a player used a fist level cause fear spell and a nat 20 intimidation check and the dm used that to let a CR 7 just die out of fear

[serene jolt]

5.5e EB can target objects.

[lavish flame]

What does this accomplish? They want to attack someone else and don't want to be hindered by seeing you?

[rough basalt]

RoC ime often leads to dissatisfaction at the table somewhat

[wintry spindle]

Neato. Havent played with warlocks yet in 5.5 so it hasnt come up yet

[blissful ibex]

was just grabbing it when DeadDok replied XD: https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/2619161-eldritch-blast

but ye, they fixed that in 5.5e

[wintry spindle]

spritual weapon being concentation now is a good change

[serene jolt]

They're welcome to attack something else but it'd be at dis because they had the frightened condition since they were in LOS of my character, whether they were facing them or not.

[rough basalt]

Like when people "RoC" grappling rules and basically turn grapple into stuns

[serene jolt]

If they blocked LOS by getting into cover, I'd totally be fine with it. But they just "turned away"

[wintry spindle]

Im currently in a 5e game and i often experience as a 5.5 DM, that when we find problems it's hard not to go "well that has been corrected in 5.5"

[lavish flame]

Most of the time where some Rule of Cool stuff is being invoked, it feels like what we agreed to play was not really in alignment

[blissful ibex]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/sae/sage-advice-compendium#SAC-SpellAttack3 is the only EB thing I sometimes get pushback on >.>

[serene jolt]

It was mainly being used to protect the backliners it was charging. But it took 2 rounds to accomplish. So I don't see how it's unfair for me to ask them to use the RAW frightened condition.

[blissful ibex]

though it's not a big deal if a DM wants to rule against that

[valid geyser]

I disagree. Spiritual weapon was already kinda mid, just being the only damaging cleric spell of its level.

[rough basalt]

And too much RoC ime led to entitled players who'd whine when you wouldn't let them do stupid nonsense for the sake of "cool"

[serene jolt]

It's very frustrating when you waste spell slots for it. When you know they wouldn't let you do the same thing.

As a level 4 bard, it's not like I have a bunch of level 2 spell slots. 🤣 They failed the save, I should be able to do something. Right?

[wintry spindle]

We just often experience it with conquest paladin it gave them a lot of damage per round

[blissful ibex]

Also had a DM table rule no using Repelling Blast/Forced Movement to force prone on stacked enemies via https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/playing-the-game#MovingaroundOtherCreatures

[rough basalt]

Like a dude i had in one game kept complaining to the rest of the table behind my back that I wouldnt let him carry a maxed out weight carriage on his back as well as the animal pulling it in his arms

[blissful ibex]

mostly because I inspired another player to run something similar and they went ham with it XD

[rough basalt]

Cause "it was muh rule of cool man"

[lavish flame]

This is reasonable, but tbh using enemies as bowling balls/pins is also pretty sweet

[blissful ibex]

like I was 100% okay with that being nixed for Play Experience reasons

it's a bit cheesey

and the other tables I play at are fine with it

[green epoch]

Hi

[shy sparrow]

Hi

[lavish flame]

id prolly allow it tbh

[wintry spindle]

Ahoy

[blissful ibex]

I just enjoy setting things up for allies to where they can then drop the hammer

[lavish flame]

anything to encourage movement in 5e combats

[valid geyser]

Are they upcasting it? I feel like the 1d8+casting modifier isn’t the main damage booster the paladin is using.

[fast latch]

Hi I’m bored, what are we talking about?

[blissful ibex]

also only get a few turns of it at most in most cases depending on where the enemy falls on initiatve vs my character

[twilit ibex]

In my philosophy, rule of cool is for the table, not individuals at the table. When I let a Barbarian who is max Medium sized pick up and throw a Fighter that is minimum Medium sized at the enemies, it's because multiple people get to enjoy the Fastball Special together.

[rough basalt]

When DMs make bad rulings and the consequences of being too "rule of cool"

[wintry spindle]

Well it's more they can both smite and spirtual weapon same turn

[noble cave]

Hi i just joined this server and my friends introduced me to dnd
I just wanna explore this game
I would appreciate it if i can join a campaign and learn more about this game

[wintry spindle]

My question is. It sword cooler or hammer cooler?

[blissful ibex]

Dms making bad rulings / not reading the rules / things you've had a DM table rule against despite being RAW/SAC

[fast latch]

Good for you!

Go to #dnd-newcomers if you have questions and #looking-for-players if you want to join a campaign

[thorn wedge]

Depending on how often you are able to hit, how long the combat is, how much hp the targets have, just saving that spell slot for another smite is gonna be better most of the time I’d say.

[valid geyser]

In 2024 that would be solved by smite needing a BA, not spiritual weapon being concentration

[blissful ibex]

Read the information in 'Playing the Game'; Then follow allong with 'Creating A Character' using either the dnd beyond character builder or roll20 to make a practice character before heading over to #character-discussion to have it looked over.

Feel free to ask any questions you still have in #dnd-newcomers or check out the resources in #learn-to-play ; There's a short interactive module you can play to get a feel for the game, or you could seek out gameplay videos online. Once you're ready to play, head over to #find-a-game, one of the many LFG discord servers, r/lfg on reddit, or your friendly local game store. If you'd like a printable character sheet, those can be found here.

[blissful ibex]

neither; Trident

[mighty quartz]

yes dude

[noble cave]

Thanks

[rough basalt]

Ngl part of me gets a bit of a kick out of telling players who've been given anything they want rules be damned by other DMs no.

[noble cave]

Tysm

[blissful ibex]

Versitile weapon that can be thrown and has topple

[ancient dew]

Well my friend, when you have a hammer then every problem becomes a nail >:3

[wintry spindle]

We also had a cleric sorcerer who did pretty high damage. But thats just our experience with it. The main problem was outside of disspelling it you couldn't do anything about it

[wintry spindle]

they are great in 5.5 very big fan

[blissful ibex]

My go to recomendation for pact weapons

or for sword and board characters

[wintry spindle]

My wild magic barbarian uses big sword. Very happy about it

[lavish flame]

Howdy dawg! Welcome to the most fun you can have with your mind. If you want to figure out the basics of playing the game, check out #learn-to-play . We chat in this chat, and there's a "new player friendly" chat in #dnd-newcomers which could be a great resource for you as you're learning. If you want to see about the matchmaking stuff here, to get into a game, check out #find-a-game for advice/info.

You're jumping in the game at a good time, there was just a "game rules revamp" that came out in 2024!

[fast latch]

One of my DMs has banned ASIs

It’s ONLY Feats

There’s no way to get your Attack Bonuses or Spell Save DC up besides your Prof Bonus

[jolly canyon]

Ew

[noble cave]

I played once using a paladin but idk how to use its full potential so can someone lmk what is the best build and best plays with a paladin

[blissful ibex]

plenty of items do it; there's the tasha's foci, wand of the war mage, staff of the woodlands, staff of power, robe of the archmage, etc

[undone bloom]

just take feats that give stats

[fast latch]

Full Plate Mail

[noble cave]

Whats that 😭

[fast latch]

They don’t give stats anymore, he removed the stats

[jolly canyon]

Ewx2

[undone bloom]

did he at least say why? that sounds like an awful time

[valid geyser]

I see. I think that the main way of stopping it is to just have their bonus action be too busy to use it, or just action control. Or just moving more than 20 feet from it

[lavish flame]

Unironically they're all goated. Paladin is a pretty strong class. I've always liked a Polearm Paladin (use a Glaive or a Halverd or a Pike to hit enemies from afar).

[fast latch]

No, he didn’t

[blissful ibex]

It's a melee support; Smite is a trap and should only be used if you hit a crit
mostly just play it like a fighter and try to keep allies in your aura

[noble cave]

What does that do ? 😭

[undone bloom]

probably worth asking why

[lavish flame]

I've been thinking about buffing the ASI Feat in 2024, this is wild to me

[undone bloom]

that's a major change to a carefully balanced system

[lyric idol]

Sentinel + Polearm = Stay where you are paladin

[wintry spindle]

True. It was a oneshot that one time, so I think it just wasn't that accounted for yet for the DM, so if it was a campaign they could have done that next time

[rough basalt]

DM probably thinks he's fixing 5e by removing ASIs

[blissful ibex]

I'd literally just drop the game at that point; breaks player progression

[lyric idol]

Oath of Where Do You Think Youre Going

[fast latch]

Best armor in the game

Gives you AC 18

[wintry spindle]

The player had a really bad habit of first making their PCs on the day

[noble cave]

I also have a question if i can use thunderous smite and divine smite at the same time

[thorn wedge]

Polearm paladin with the usual suspects of strong feats is good. Hexadin is good. Dexadin is… fine I guess.

[lavish flame]

They're just melee weapons that have a little extra range, so you can hit people with your Halberd but they can't hit you with their Longsword

[viral kraken]

i personally can't imagine taking an asi over a feat (at least in 2024 when they are all half-feats) but taking away the stat from the feats too is an odd choice

[thorn wedge]

Sorcadins can be good.

[inner silo]

they will do well with essentially anything melee, even hands in 2024

[noble cave]

Oooh

[blissful ibex]

not in 5.5e; they both take a spell slot/bonus action

[undone bloom]

yeah, if the DM is makign a unilateral call to remove a core game function and doesn't provide a reason? huge red flag

[noble cave]

Oh i see tysm ^^

[inner silo]

are you trying to optimise?

[thorn wedge]

One smite per successful weapon attack

[noble cave]

Yeah i am

[mighty quartz]

i must fix dnd by removing rests..

[noble cave]

Ooooh

[lavish flame]

I've been thinking of making the ASI Feat in 5.5 be like a Custom Origin ASI, where you can do a +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1. I think it needs that buff

[rough basalt]

A lot of DMs that make dumb decisions like this I find approach 5e from a "it's systems broken, I need to fix it" view. Without any experience with game design and just add random broken stuff or remove stuff they don't like breaking it further.

[blissful ibex]

ye, if you're multiclassing it's like
Paladin 6~7 / Warlock 0~2 / Sorcerer x
Paladin level dependant on how good of an aura your subclass has

[twilit ibex]

So excited. Made a level 5 Human Dex Fighter with the Hero subclass from Chaosium. Gonna' be a Hedge Knight and speak like a complete toss pot. "Forsooth, mine is the Estoc that thou shalt see pierce the Heavens!" Gonna' be a riot.

[inner silo]

do you want to multiclass or full paladin

[blissful ibex]

bard can also be fun mixed in there

[undone bloom]

i've never understood the need to "fix" 5e. it's not a perfect system, but it does its job pretty dng well imo

[undone bloom]

#optimization

[noble cave]

Umm which one do u prefer ?

[viral kraken]

i mean honestly, in 2024 with feats other than origin feats giving a stat, asi would need a buff for me to take asi over a feat, so i can def see that

[blissful ibex]

decouple it from class level and pin it to character level c:

[fast latch]

He’s also really new to DnD and made a Fighter with a SEVEN in Constitution in my campaign (We play at the library of my old town, he does Tuesdays and I do Fridays)

[rough basalt]

Oh god

The "new dm who hasn't read the rules here to fix 5e"

[craggy summit]

How do you even get a 7 in con 😟 rolling for stats?

[blissful ibex]

punishes multiclassing less and removes the exploit that lets you get 2 epic boons if you take a 16/4 or 12/8 class split where you hit 2 feat levels on 19 and 20

[undone bloom]

this guy read a reddit post about the "flaws" of 5e and thought he could be some hero

[rough basalt]

Didn't read the rules.

[fast latch]

I let him use an ASI to bump it to 9

[twilit ibex]

My boy is a Fighter with muscular dystrophy. Wowzers

[rough basalt]

Just put numbers in places.

[viral kraken]

wish still does it, fwiw

[craggy summit]

Ahh 😭 it happens

[inner silo]

depends on the character you are trying to build

[fast latch]

I think he rolled for stats

[woven flint]

Nah, it's the Fighter with every disease known to mankind

[rough basalt]

Dude learned how to game design from the DnD satire reddit

And took it as serious advice.

[undone bloom]

D&D players are never dodging the illiteracy allegations

[lavish flame]

Same. People often say "5e doesn't work, it doesn't function, you need to step in to make it playable" which is so far from my experience. I play pretty close to RAW/RAI with minimal homebrew and minimal personal rulings. The game works fine, I love it and don't want to quit anytime soon.

[thorn wedge]

What’s really funny is that it won’t be a massive problem early, but it will become one as he levels up.

[rough basalt]

I'd ask him how he feels about Matt Mercer. If he says "Matt Mercer ruined dnd" he probably took the satire reddit as serious advice.

[woven flint]

You know
My fighter with w 8 in Charisma just so happens to still be a pretty charismatic person
(I've decided that his flaw with lower Charisma is that he's always honest even if it'd be a detriment pretty much lmao)

[thorn wedge]

Like when that guy gets to like level 10 or so he’s going to be really feeling that low hp

[twilit ibex]

Many people just don't read any of the rules ever at any point. I think DnD rules are passed on more closely to oral tradition at this point

[rough basalt]

Not even that late like level 3

[fast latch]

I’m going to Heavily recommend he bumps it up to 10 (-0)

[rough basalt]

I've had my fair share of people who dump con and they're usually dead by 3 if they're not being protected by the whole party

[thorn wedge]

At minimum

[inner silo]

i heard it said a lot but the only good point ive heard is too little damagevoulnerabilities and no exploration rules

[woven flint]

Ain't got the Charisma to pull off lying so he's just honest

[viral kraken]

gather round children and listen to the teachings of the phb. i have never held one, but legend tells of what it contains!

[woven flint]

Truth.

[rough basalt]

My favorite dnd meme is of the doge holding the 2014 PHB and it says "you're a grown ass man, read the damn rules."

[blissful ibex]

actually reading the rules really helps you in learning some of the less obvious tech you might have access to <3

[thorn wedge]

Objection! (I’m a rule lawyer)

[woven flint]

Chain someone to a chair and scream at them to READ
Boondocks style

[twilit ibex]

Solid. Too many people interpret Charisma as a single thing. I think of it like social skills, hygiene, independence, force of will, etc. Multiple things

[rough basalt]

It's said if you ever need to defend yourself from a 5e player you just open a book in their face and go "read, read!" And they'll melt like the wicked witch

[blissful ibex]

My primary character makes heavy use of the Mounted Combat rules for example

[lavish flame]

the exploration rules of 5e/5.5e are beautiful, this is one of those things that is very alien to my experience

[inner silo]

i meant traveling, mb

[rough basalt]

It's not that there's no exploration rules its that a lot of exploration challenges can be solved in character creation.

[woven flint]

He has pretty high wisdom, so I interpret it as "knowing" what to say sometimes, even it his presentation isn't always the best

[inner silo]

exploration is good

[twilit ibex]

People don't know how Bloodied works, which is sad.

[rough basalt]

It's just being at half or lower hp

[lavish flame]

traveling would be part of the exploration rules, and I feel they're still stellar

[rough basalt]

Then again people could never comprehend how 2014 Grapple worked

[blissful ibex]

despise when DMs just handwave the vast majority of the Exploration Pillar q_q

[woven flint]

I always mark my character when they're bloodied on DDB lmao
I just put a red circle around them

[craggy summit]

Isn't it just a contested athletics check? 🤔

[woven flint]

Subtly saying "Please heal me."

[blissful ibex]

and then they complain that their players aren't invested in the world/story

[mighty quartz]

lowkey always forget being bloodied is like a mechanic

[blissful ibex]

and that they have too many itmes/resources

[lavish flame]

or Acrobatics if you were defending!

[rough basalt]

Yep, that was too much for a lot of people but the bigger thing was the Grappled condition

[twilit ibex]

My character has the Purple Knight Commandant feat. You better believe I'm marking that Bloodied status and using those Advantage attacks

[rough basalt]

People didn't know grappled only made your movement speed 0

[fast latch]

The guy who had a 7 Con is also in the middle of a massive conflict with one of my other players

His character’s name is Felix and he is a Tabaxi Fighter noblecat

He’s fighting LITERALLY DEADPOOL

[remote wadi]

Realizing that serpent scale mail exists. That will be fun to get for a ranger

[rough basalt]

They'd treat it like a stun condition, have enemies just never try to get out or keep fighting.

[craggy summit]

The mighty DM screen could tell everyone 😔

[remote wadi]

Also, shoutout to whoever is using the Tabaxi for not making them a monk

[rough basalt]

DMs don't read either.

[woven flint]

Yeah, my Fighter has Purple Dragon Commandant too
So I'm fine with him being Bloodied

And of course, my Pugilist is fine getting there too because literally "Bloodied but Unbowed"

[inner silo]

it has decent travel rules if your campaign doesnt focus on it and does fine for my campaign but if travel is a pretty big part of your campaign you might want to homebrew some additional stuff to it to give it more weight

[blissful ibex]

really enjoy 5.5e grapple
especially Grappler + Street Justice

[inner silo]

typing in the dark is tuff

[rough basalt]

It's just there's a lot more players and most of them don't read so the illiterate players overwhelm illiterate dms with numbers.

[lavish flame]

This Is So Alien To My Experience

[blissful ibex]

I see mostly Tabaxi rogues tbf

[blissful ibex]

or use hex grids
travel hex grids are really nice

[remote wadi]

I hate using Tabaxi. Even worse when it is Rogue or Monk

[woven flint]

I've play a Tabaxi Cleric, Fighter, Monk and Rogue lmao

[rough basalt]

I like hexcrawls

[inner silo]

thats what the dm in one of the campaigns im in uses

[lavish flame]

My campaign features a ton of travel, I use the RAW 5e/5.5 travel rules, these are very solid rules for heroic adventure traveling

[woven flint]

It's been a while between each because I just like playing other species lol

[twilit ibex]

I've found combining the Zhentarim feats, Purple Dragon Knight feats, and the Hero subclass to be a fun little niche. Like being a Paladin, but no spells.

[fast latch]

He thought Fighter was better

I disagree, the Mr. Fast As Frick Boi build is way funnier, but it wasn’t my choice

[rough basalt]

I think ima run a game on fridays

[woven flint]

My Fighters a Battlemaster
I went with Knight vibes
He has
Rally, Goading Attack and Commanders Strike so far lol
And ofc purple dragon commandant and mounted combatant as feats

[rough basalt]

Level 7 is coming soon

[remote wadi]

I think it's very overrated. Or at least not that fun. Half tempted to make them occassionally make a dex save to avoid tripping and slamming headfirst into a wall or off a cliff

[woven flint]

I get more battle masteries and the read your enemy thing!

[undone bloom]

so because you don't like a build, you wanna punish a player that does?

[twilit ibex]

Neat. It's so fun to play a Knight without being a Paladin, I think. It's really fun to play a character where your oaths and such are all pure RP

[woven flint]

Yeah, that's a little questionable tbh

[undone bloom]

that's not even questionable, it's just mean and cringe

[rough basalt]

And not the okay cringe either

[undone bloom]

oh true, cringe [derogatory]