dnd-discussion

[atomic moat]

They wouldn't be the embodiment of chaotic evil if they could work together. It's the one advantage hell has against the abyss.

[prime pewter]

Wait yes! I love this

[woven flint]

Well, yeah, that's why I asked a hypothetical.

[reef tundra]

You have a point, if they did work together, they’d be genuinely unstoppable

[woven flint]

Demons ARE willing to work with other beings
So long as those beings further THEIR goals rather than their own

They're not ALL just brutish beings

How do you think demons have worshippers, afterall?

[fossil shuttle]

They're willing to work together to further their goals, and then kill the person afterwards

[craggy summit]

It's more like they're using you rather than working with you tbh

[atomic moat]

Honestly I don't buy that they have infinite abyssal planes anyway, its more likely just more planes than can be reasonably counted.

[woven flint]

Indeed! That's how it goes!

They're actually prone to giving great boons to those who please them though, apparently

If you follow their subjugation and dogma, they'll reward you so long as you serve them

[craggy summit]

They can give boons and rewards if it's a more powerful fiend yes! Obviously an imp won't be able to give you anything useful

[woven flint]

Imps aren't Demons

They're Devils 😔

[fossil shuttle]

As is often mentioned when talking about the Blood War, the Hells can only slow or halt the demons because they are effectively infinite, at least compared to the forces of Baator

[woven flint]

Quasits are the Demon equivalent of Imps

[craggy summit]

Ahh right my bad 😅 sorry just geeking out because I finished descent into avernus so this is a fun topic for me lol

[fossil shuttle]

Imps are great for sending messages or bartering for information in the Hells

[craggy summit]

They're like pigeon couriers but cooler 👀

[woven flint]

I do think there are a few Demon Lords that DON'T want to kill their followers
At least, Baphomet, he is the FATHER of Minotaurs, afterall

[fossil shuttle]

One of my favorite parts about my warlock character is that -being the son of Bel and an errand boy for the archdevils- some lesser devils (like imps) actually like him a fair deal, because unlike the archdevils he works for, he actually treats them with respect when they do stuff for him, so they know they'll get something out of helping him

[woven flint]

Oh, apparently an alternative name for the Demon Lords is the Abyssal Lords.. which honestly sounds cooler tbh

[craggy summit]

That's the kinda thing I'd LOVE a player for if they did that 😭

[fossil shuttle]

It also helps the DM a bit that, if we're missing a few players or we just need something random to do, he can just have the players attend a gala or party in the Hells that my player has to attend for diplomatic reasons, like because he's the son of an archdevil, or because his father can't be bothered to attend so he has to go in his place to represent him.

Also, some crazy gap moe type stuff there, cause he has to go from "Hi, I live in the streets, am perpetually covered in dirt, and have a pet rat sleeping in my hair" to "Hand me that comb, I need to find my nice clothes, and whatever you do, do not touch anything or talk to anyone"

[severe fox]

why is countercharm so bad?

[fossil shuttle]

I definitely wouldn't call Countercharm bad by any means. It's only a reaction, and dealing with a charmed or frightened ally is far more annoying than giving up a potential opportunity attack

[severe fox]

i mean the old one

[crimson gulch]

ok, 3 pc deaths last night, that brings me to 26 this year

[severe fox]

also i feel like theres a few ways to deal with Frightened or charmed

[crimson gulch]

time for dungeon of the mad mage tonight !

[fossil shuttle]

My brother in Ilmater, it's only March. How in the 9 are you doing that?

[fossil shuttle]

Yeah, no. That's fair

[crimson gulch]

im running 7 different campaigns

[severe fox]

how in the world

[fossil shuttle]

That raises some more questions, but still

[south prawn]

It's literally in his name lol

[severe fox]

i thought it was a joke 😭

[crimson gulch]

nope no joke, i do this full time

[severe fox]

i cant find my phone

[crimson gulch]

Exandria Calamity on Mondays
The MoonShae Islands on Tuesdays
Curse of Strahd on Wednesdays
The Dunes of Calimport on Thursdays
Dungeon of the Mad mage on Fridays
Tomb of Anhilliaton on Saturdays
Tyrrany of Dragons on Sundays.

extra one shots usualy once a month on a weekend morning

[severe fox]

hm

[fossil shuttle]

Pray your players don't find a way to deal with Strahd like my party did

[rough basalt]

my games rn are
Draconia: A New Era on Mondays
Arcanum: Land of Wandering Dreams on Wednesdays
Then looking to run short other games on a 3rd day, mainly other systems but one of the games on my mind currently is a spelljammer one to threeshot

[crimson gulch]

they are terrifed of him, that campaign has only had 3 sessions so far

[empty thicket]

nuked him?

[crimson gulch]

i also have a custom stat block for him that is Extra Spicy

[rough basalt]

Trying to work up to be able to run 3 consistent weekly games

[severe fox]

strhds statblock is kinda lack luster

its pretty much just a fancy vampire

[rough basalt]

ye he suffers from old 5e monster design

[severe fox]

im still wondering why hes also in ||eye of ruin||

[rough basalt]

cause eve of ruin is the marvels greatest hits but dnd adventure

[severe fox]

still very strang

[fossil shuttle]

My party fough him (admittedly this was a homebrewed [buffed] Strahd) in our custom campaign by accident. Through the sheer chance of multiple random magic items activating, he was summoned to our location (a wide street in the middle of the day halfway across the continent from his castle). We finished that fight in 3 turns by having my character at the time (an aarakocra rogue) fly up with the collapsing boat and hold an action to drop it if he tried to do anything. Then the paladin held his action to say the command word when I dropped it. Then Strahd tried to cast a spell and got crushed by a full-size boat. Then we one rounded his phase 2.

[craggy summit]

I know the why as in for what reason he's in the game, but if you're asking why as in "why did WOTC put him there...?" Then I dunno that 😅

[rough basalt]

it was to capitalize on the Vecna recognition from being used namewise in Stranger Things and actually appearing in Dead by Daylight as a killer by having alot of the other iconic villains show up

[reef tundra]

I always found it to be a blend of infinity war and endgame

[rough basalt]

The characters of infinity war and the writing of endgame

[reef tundra]

That’s how I described it to my players at least

[craggy summit]

I'd say it's an endgame

[severe fox]

tasha is also in there as well as sliver hand

[craggy summit]

What with all the popular characters and locations

[reef tundra]

You’re right, more endgame with infinity war happening in the background

[still plover]

The Rockerboy?!

[river vector]

I'll be running strahd as my second dnd campaign, first module. But that won't be for a while.

[reef tundra]

An inclusion I am very happy about

[craggy summit]

Story wise, it probably lines up with the story more of IW than endgame

[rough basalt]

My rogue doesn't like Tasha

[reef tundra]

…

[craggy summit]

NoNo not cyberpunk silverhand 🤣

[rough basalt]

She doesn't trust hot women

[severe fox]

LOL

[reef tundra]

Then she’s gonna hate me 💅

[still plover]

"Now I don't know much about these dungeons or dragons or whatever, but I know this Vecna guy needs a nice hot nuke right up the a-"

[fossil shuttle]

In a d&d campaign? Poor choice.

[jolly canyon]

I'm only running 2 things. Campaign in Eberron on Sat and Heroes of the Borderlands every couple weeks as long as my sister is available.

[rough basalt]

Her logic is she's hot and she doesn't trust herself so hot people can't be trusted.

[river vector]

me when my "nice cleric" was the vampire BBEG in disguise

Oh look at all these healing potions! 😏

[fossil shuttle]

I feel like I remember you talking about that here a little while back. Any updates on that?

[river vector]

yesterday the party rolled insight

Had to do a whole reveal because one player got 15 lmao

[rough basalt]

I'm looking forward to running games on a 3rd day semi-regularly of small dnd and other systems stuff.

[river vector]

They started to try intimidation rolls to get the truth out of the vampire, but I just told them they can roll, but it won't work.

Level three party is nothing to the BBEG

[rough basalt]

Hidden bbegs around the party are fun

[halcyon bison]

Is the vampire still a friend :>

[jolly canyon]

Many many months from now I do wanna run other ttrpgs. Like CoC or uhhh that's all I got so far

[fossil shuttle]

I watched a player roll a nat 1 on an insight check last session to see how my new character felt about my previous character's (his father's) death... My character was playing bagpipes on top of the cart while everyone was saying prayers

[river vector]

Eventually had the BBEG offer for the party to join him in his rebellion against the undead nation, and had him say that he stole their souls for a "noble purpose"

[river vector]

LOL

[halcyon bison]

Well I don’t see any reason not to trust him :3

[rough basalt]

On my current list is a fallout murder mystery, a spelljammer escape from place, Pathfinder nautical treasure adventure, and Shadowdark dinosaur island.

[river vector]

he turned a party member who wanted his power into a spawn, so now there's a spawn dragonborn warlock.

[halcyon bison]

What is place

[woven flint]

A place, ofc!

[rough basalt]

Players spelljammer gets shot down on a moon occupied by Gith so they gotta escape

[halcyon bison]

How kind :3

[river vector]

however he didn't do it the normal way, so he doesn't have control over party member

[flint sundial]

Hi

[river vector]

he then broke a window and leaped out, using spider climb to attach to the wall at the last second.

[rough basalt]

The PF and Shadowdark ones are longer form so I might swap out for a Daggerheart try out.

Until the weather stabilizes at least

[halcyon bison]

Was he like in a fight or did he just do that for fun

[river vector]

it was his dramatic exit after inviting the party to come talk more in his base

[woven flint]

Hello :]

[halcyon bison]

It would be funny if he always left rooms that way

[rough basalt]

I don't have the greatest constitution so I wanna avoid running a third long form game until season allergies stop being flared up.

[fossil shuttle]

The two dhampir siblings (Shadow sorcerer and Undead warlock [one of my backups]) running up a wall with their 45 feet of movement from the mobile and speedy feats respectively

[river vector]

that's epic

[rough basalt]

But a 3rd day where I run like a one to three shot then take a couple weeks off sounds nice to me.

[unborn hedge]

Where do i go for finding a dm ?

[fossil shuttle]

Ya know what's better? The warlock's 1,020ft range Eldritch Blast channeled through a blackpowder rifle he turned into a pact weapon.

[severe fox]

if only +1 fire arms were...

uh

easy to get

[river vector]

dramatically smashes window, then leaps out

[fossil shuttle]

His followers get tired of replacing it, so eventually they just get reinforced glass

[empty thicket]

A room with not windows appears

[inner silo]

Guys I'll soon play in a level 20 oneshot. Before this I've only played under level 10. Do you have any suggestions or tips for character creation at high level?

[severe rampart]

He'll make a window, then leap out of it

[severe rampart]

Oh man, I remember being in a level 20 oneshot, I played a Gnome Monk, I had a +16 with unarmed strikes

[empty thicket]

what kind of character do you have in mind?

[still plover]

Slane uses the ghost key at the last moment, going into the echo of the time when the window wasn't bricked up, and does a neat tumble to land in the room inside.

-# Wait, wrong game...

[severe rampart]

1d12+ 10 per strike, and I had 23 AC, 203 health, 100ft of walking speed, 22 Dex and 25 Wis

[woven flint]

Pick whatever the hell you think sounds most fun

[severe rampart]

I get why you like Monks Tokii, very fun to play

[woven flint]

I'm the Monkler, baby!

[inner silo]

I want to play someone who fights in close quarters and can do a lot of damage but is maybe a bit more squishy then a barbarian. An illusion wizard also sounds fun but it might be a little complex

[glass granite]

Fellow monk main!

[woven flint]

... Monk

[glass granite]

So you want a monk

[inner silo]

Tbh yeah, monk does sound fun

[woven flint]

You already know this

[empty thicket]

hexblade warlock maybe?

[glass granite]

Doesn’t mean I can’t stop approving :D

[inner silo]

Forgot to mention, it's for 2024 and the dm doesn't allow 2014 stuff

[woven flint]

I'm probably gonna play a Pathfinder 2e Monk one day for the fun of it

[glass granite]

You got good options for 2024 monk subclasses

[woven flint]

New Elements Monk is pretty strong

[severe rampart]

I love Monk

[glass granite]

Like, literally all of them are decent at least

[inner silo]

Shadow monk sounds pretty fun but i fear it might be a bit difficult to play

[limber pivot]

Hello everyone
Discord is so confusing and I need a help
I'm newbie player want to join a campaign 🚶‍♂️

[severe rampart]

That's what I played

[glass granite]

No it’s actually not that bad.

[severe rampart]

100 ft of walking speed baby

[empty thicket]

Figther champion, be unstoppable and Dominate the fights
Became the champion of your party and dont leave nothing alive

[glass granite]

What part of shadow monk are you concerned about?

[woven flint]

Nice pfp
#looking-for-dm and #looking-for-players (for signing up for games) could help

[inner silo]

Yeah that also sounds like a cool option

[inner silo]

Tactically placing darkness to not disrupt my allies. Also in the campaigns I've played so far areas being obscured almost never came up as everyone has dark vision so idrk how to work with that too

[glass granite]

Cast Darkness on an object like a coin and put it between between your teeth, and open and close your mouth to activate or deactivate your darkness around you.
Doesn’t have to be a coin in your mouth, anything you can quickly cover and uncover works. I’ve done a fake eye

[woven flint]

@limber pivot ALSO
#find-a-game can help you with rules and how to use said channels as well

[glass granite]

The Darkness spell overrides darkvision. And considering you can see in it and others can’t, they get disadvantage on everything against you and you have advantage on your attacks. It also cripples some casters because they don’t have line of sight, and your allies can Hide if they want to.

[woven flint]

If you have any questions afterwards, don't be afraid to ask anyone
That's what we're all here for :]

[glass granite]

Specifically #dnd-newcomers would be a good spot to ask

[inner silo]

That's kind of why i feel it might be a bit difficult to manage with my allies

[woven flint]

Indeed, that'd assist very well if you're completely new to D&D

[glass granite]

With this trick you can keep it on when you’re fighting and disable it if needed freely

Not to mention at worst it’s neutral for your allies

[inner silo]

Idk if I'd be allowed to do this between my turns though

[glass granite]

Maybe not between turns but I see no reason why you can’t at the end of your turn

[inner silo]

That is true

I'll ask my dm rq

[glass granite]

Plus it shouldn’t be a detriment to anyone unless they need to keep line of sight

[unkempt atlas]

Guys i think the bbeg of our d&d session is the king in yellow

[fossil shuttle]

What makes you think that?

[frail wasp]

isn't that a play

[fossil shuttle]

A book about a "cursed" play. Bunch of eldritch horror stuff. The King in Yellow (character) was later added to the Lovecraft mythos

[frail wasp]

how can a book be a bbeg

[fossil shuttle]

I assume they mean the old eldritch god King in Yellow, and not the play that drives you mad if you read the second act

[minor cargo]

You know what they say. Don't judge a BBEG by its cover.

[unkempt atlas]

There's stories of an eldritch god that has a cult, its been taking over individuals and they're commonly wearing clothes of shades of yellow, have these weird yellow symbols, has these weird avatars that when killed are turned into yellowish orange goo, its been described as a creature wearing velvet, has a mask with teeth behind it and is unkillable

[frail wasp]

thats a weird name for a god :V

[still plover]

I think that's Hastur. Isn't it Hastur?

[unkempt atlas]

The King in Yellow is an actual avatar of Hastur, but is also a play

[frail wasp]

ack, flee! the name is spoken

[unkempt atlas]

Pretty sure they're one in the same

[solar anchor]

Good evening everyone

[still plover]

Keegaarts did it, take him, spare us!

[halcyon bison]

Not to be confused with hat sir, which is just a guy with a hat

[paper portal]

hi twodozenrats :3

[unkempt atlas]

But, we just found out one of our dnpc's were one of these avatars, and melted himself into a puddle of yellow/orange goo, which was horrifying

[halcyon bison]

Hi wings (2014e5 rules) :3

[sullen kite]

or hat stir, a guy who creates hats in vats of mercury who tends to stir the mercury around too much before the hats seal

[glossy narwhal]

Weapon flavoring can get too complicated I feel at times

[unkempt atlas]

Apparently he got replaced during a previous session, started acting weird (which none of us noticed) and was trying to influence us to doing bad things

[paper portal]

true that is what my name says

[unkempt atlas]

Oh! We ended up rescuing the red wyrmling dragon that got kidnapped from our party, he was in the middle of a ritual, and when we stopped it, he got upgraded to an adult red dragon

[sullen kite]

well well well

oh it didn't

work

THERE it is

[sullen kite]

@paper portal 👀

[paper portal]

whatttt 😢

[jolly canyon]

What the... wings has an evil doppelganger

[still plover]

It's like they appeared from nowhere. /deadpan

[normal canyon]

Hi

[jolly canyon]

Hello!

[halcyon bison]

Fins 😨

[silver field]

Quick question. When the new ravenloft book comes out, when will the physical books be released?

Would it be the same time as digital release?

[rough basalt]

Same time.

[crimson gulch]

june 16

[rough basalt]

Unless you're talking the pre-order early access period for ddb subscribers then digital will be available 2 weeks early I think is the general thing now.

[crimson gulch]

certian game shops also sell their preorders 2 weeks early

[silver field]

Ok, thanks. My game store didn't even heard of this yet, so I was curious.

[crimson gulch]

for physical copies

[rough basalt]

Whenever I pre-order books I usually get my physical delivered early in the two week window as well

[crimson gulch]

i have my calander marked for june 2 for my preorder pickup at the shop

[silver field]

Ok, and the pre-orders start in April correct?

[crimson gulch]

depends on your store

[silver field]

Hoping they didn't nerf the new ranger subclass, if they release it.

I did like the concept of it

[viral kraken]

what is the concept?

[inner silo]

@glass granite what feats are good for monks?

[craggy summit]

Mobile is a good feat. other then that, theres not many others that are immediately jumping to mind

[glass granite]

Speedy/mobile, grappler (my fav), lucky, ASI

[craggy summit]

Maybe crusher if you wanna push someone like 10 to 20 feet 😅

[glass granite]

Crusher is a fun one too

[inner silo]

Crusher not letting you take dex asi is a bit of a bummer

[severe fox]

i think its super cool that tielfings can from from another tielfing and a devil/demon

[craggy summit]

It wouldn't make sense tho since there's no dex bludgeoning weapons (iirc)

[inner silo]

There's hands

But yeah no normal weapons that aren't monk stuff

[craggy summit]

These hands are weapons 😤

[inner silo]

And monks can do force damage pretty soon

[craggy summit]

But monk is one of the few classes who can make unarmed strikes that use dex

[severe fox]

magic weapons feel a little less special now

only the +123 i mean

[glass granite]

Oh btw the feat for weapon mastery is pretty fun

[severe fox]

they just make it easier to hit and a little more damage and thats it

[halcyon bison]

What do you mean a +123 magic weapon would be excellent

[severe fox]

i will never forget the time dnd said "you should put weapon mastery on a fighter"

[craggy summit]

Compared to other magic weapons, yes. But they're still pretty good for martial heavy classes

[remote wadi]

You can name a few small ones, but ultimately ASI is king because of how many things rely on Dexterity and Wisdom

Attack rolls, damage modifier on your many attacks, AC, initiative, Grapple save DC iirc, Stunning Strike DC, subclass modifiers, Wis Saves, Dex saves + Evasion, etc

[severe fox]

yeah but in 2024 magic damage no longer exist

so all the are is just a better to hit mod with damage buffs

[inner silo]

I'll probably then take speedy and the rest in asi

[severe fox]

a barely even a damage buff too

[naive cedar]

I love ASI lol

[remote wadi]

TLDR: the more focused and versatile your primary stats are, the more necessary it is to take ASI as a feat

[halcyon bison]

I mean one hundred twenty three damage is a pretty big buff

[remote wadi]

Hence why spellcasters like Wizards bump Int up to 20 ASAP

[severe fox]

its barely a +3 at max where are you getting 100

[halcyon bison]

I am making a joke

[severe fox]

not to mention if a creature is resistane to BPS thats just that you cant bypass it unless you have a epic boon

[craggy summit]

They're making a joke where you said "+123 weapons" and saying that it's a one hundred and twenty three bonus to hit lol

[remote wadi]

By the way, am I the only one who honestly appreciates Lightning Bolt over Fireball?

[severe fox]

fire ball will hit more targets in the long run

[atomic kayak]

well it does. It just doesn't come up (as much) when it comes to resistances/immunities

[severe fox]

unless a bunch of creatures are just in a line

[severe fox]

its not a thing at all in 24 wdym?

[paper portal]

they removed it entirely from new monsters

[severe fox]

yeah

[paper portal]

unless you mean backwards compatible stuff which is true

[severe fox]

magic damage resistnace/immuntity was utterly removed in 24

[remote wadi]

Not really. If memory serves, magic weapons usually have something that specifies that it is magical bypass damage

[severe fox]

i mean in 24

[atomic kayak]

Thats not contradictory with what I said.

Damage being magical still exists, as do older monsters that are not updated

[remote wadi]

I never said Lightning Bolt was better. Just that I appreciate it more over Fireball

[atomic kayak]

ie: Damage from a spell is still "Magical X type" damage, as is damage from a magic weapon

[severe fox]

oh

[remote wadi]

Oh. I wouldn't know, then

[severe fox]

im talking about the 2024 monster manual

[atomic kayak]

Ok?

[severe fox]

non magical damage and magical damage arent really mentioned anymore so it might as well just be null and void

[inner silo]

Ngl quivering palm sounds like a pretty fun move

[severe fox]

either the creature is resistance to BPS or it isnt

simple as that

[inner silo]

A bit sad the rest of open hand monk is kinda boring

[severe fox]

immuntity to BPS isnt a thing either 2025

[crimson gulch]

Dms can still use those rules

[severe fox]

they can but again i mean base 2024 MM

[crimson gulch]

Nothing is lost, just new options added with the new books

[paper portal]

they probably shouldnt tho tbh, it was removed for good reason

[severe fox]

also wouldnt that be kinda null and void since the creatures that lost there immuntity to non magigical BPS got more hp and AC in return

like the lich for example

[crimson gulch]

I still do it on occasion, gives low level parties pause when their weapons don't do anything

[crimson gulch]

What's written in the monster manual are example creatures, you can change them as you see fit when you run games

[mighty mason]

Hey I’m new to all this anyone but anyone willing to let me join them in their dnd group I think not sure how this works

[paper portal]

#looking-for-dm #looking-for-players

you'll find what you're looking for in one of these :3

[severe fox]

yeah but readding non magical and magic damage to creatures not meant for it is kinda strange

[crimson gulch]

Fighting strange monsters is fun

[severe fox]

not gonna say its weird or not right cause imo theres almost no wrong way to run dnd but that one is just an interesting choice

[paper portal]

yeah i agree

[flint sundial]

Can I use a shield getting attacked after using a two handed weapon on my turn?

[severe fox]

no

[crimson gulch]

I'm running curse of strahd right now, the players used the 2024 phb for their charicter creation.

And my custom strahd stat block is immune to damage from weapons under plus 2 and unaffected by spells under level 4.

[crimson gulch]

It takes an action to equip or remove a sheild

[severe fox]

thats a really cool way of running strahd

since other then that hes just fruad

[paper portal]

cant you unequip your weapon as part of an attack and then free action equip your shield

[crimson gulch]

It takes your whole action to remove or equip a sheild

[paper portal]

huh i thought u could use your free object interaction ngl

[crimson gulch]

Nope

Your object interaction can certainly be used to draw a weapon as a part of attacking

[severe fox]

remember your not just equiping a shield you have to don it

[rough basalt]

I thought you could free object drop the shield to the ground

but not unequip/reequip

[severe fox]

nah it counts as a piece of armor

[crimson gulch]

Not RAW no, not on 5e

[viral kraken]

gotta doff it if it is donned, tho if you are holding it not wearing it you can drop it

[rough basalt]

Huh good to know

[severe fox]

yea

don and doff a shield is an action since its armor

[flint sundial]

Kay

[crimson gulch]

2handed weapon.
Sheild
Dual weilding
Pick one

[jolly canyon]

Duel wielding shield with one hand

[sleek cloud]

Dual shielding

[viral kraken]

beat me to it lol

[severe fox]

the wall build from elden ring

[cursive fjord]

Im sad, i think i found out im more interesting in the IDEA of playing dnd rather than ACTUALLY playing dnd

[severe fox]

lol

[crimson gulch]

Yeah you need to find an amazing table for the game to really pop

[severe fox]

gimme a +2 shield and +1 plate armor

[paper portal]

sitting around making characters is fun af

[cursive fjord]

Thats my FAVORITE thing to do

[jolly canyon]

I be making Stat blocks for monsters and npcs even though I'm not gonna use 99% of them

[cursive fjord]

I had one but they switching out of 5e system

[fossil shuttle]

Not me with 4 backups (1 druid and 3 warlocks)

[cursive fjord]

And the half the table left

[cursive fjord]

3 those are some rookie numbers, we gotta get those up

Last I counted i have 37~

[fossil shuttle]

I guess 5 backups if we count the winged kobold monk, but he's really just a concept right now. I do need to finish fixing my squid people homebrew race for my Fathomless Warlock, though.

[crimson gulch]

yeah people hate a bate and switch

[cursive fjord]

Wasn't a bait and switch we were in 5e, but things happened and they wanted to switch to something called A5e. So when it restarted they did

[crimson gulch]

sounds like bait and swtich to me

if i show up to a dnd game and dont recognize the books the dm has im out

[cursive fjord]

Well they told us months in advance they were switching

[crimson gulch]

oh that makes a difference

[cursive fjord]

I was with that table for over a year

[crimson gulch]

still, Switching from Real dnd is not Advised

regardless of the notice given

[cursive fjord]

Thats where I learned i wasnt a fan of Monk Combat

[viral kraken]

one of the potential options we have for our table's next campaign is not dnd at all, and one is 3.5e

[crimson gulch]

I see it so often

people try to switch systems and then the groups crater, i have so many players in my games that left other games because the dm did not want to run DND anymore

[sleek cloud]

What about monk combat do you not like

[cursive fjord]

I might retrying the new 2024 monk, I just feel like Monks dont really do damage

[sleek cloud]

2024 monk got a big glow up

[cursive fjord]

Low damage numbers

[crimson gulch]

2024 monk slays so hard

[cursive fjord]

Im use to Paladin,Fighters,and Wizards though

[viral kraken]

i'm used to dealing 1 damage with my blowgun lol, sometimes getting to add sneak attack

[jolly canyon]

My LGS has d&d night only from 4 - 8 tuesday nights and I'm not even home till 530

[cursive fjord]

I also really like the 2024 Rogue and I never played one maybe I can do that

[crimson gulch]

yeah folks at the shop dont want to be there all night, dm, aside

[viral kraken]

2024 rogue is fun in my opinion!

[crimson gulch]

i run at the shop from 530 to 830

shop closes at 9

[jolly canyon]

Yee I don't blame the store. Might actually switch to a 4/9/4 sched so I can try and make those.

Gotta wait for the sched swaps to be open but I wanna see what's up

Store says they avg 7 tables

[vale sage]

So what is the point of one shots? Are they just like kind of like a no commitment thing? Or like a grill with that person/group?

[rough basalt]

It depends

[crimson gulch]

there are a load of folks that want to play dnd occasionaly but cant commit to a weekly game

[rough basalt]

Sometimes it's to gauge players.
Sometimes it's just out of boredom.

Less commitment required so easier for people that don't want or can't commit to a weekly game.

[atomic kayak]

Theres a lot of reasons to do oneshots yea

[vale sage]

Oh I see makes sense, I prefer commitment but I haven't found a group yet so maybe I will just try one of those

[rough basalt]

Trying other tabletop systems is good for one shots.

[crimson gulch]

i ran a whole bunch of learn to play one shots on SPG and that filled up 2 weekly campaigns on there for me so that was good

[jolly canyon]

Some DMs actually run a few one shot sessions to find players that will fit their campaign so it's smart to agree to one shots yee. Never know what friendships can come from them

[rough basalt]

Like my goal to try out Spelljammer, Daggerheart, PF and Fallout more is through one shot-threeshot kinda stuff.

[crimson gulch]

i run a monthly one shot at the shop that instantly fills up with my players from my weekly games there so i can kill them all in new and exciting ways

[rough basalt]

Tho I'm not good at gauging the length of my short stuff

I thought my last short game was gonna be around 10 to 12 sessions max

But it was 3 or 4

[real wagon]

Is there anyone here who knows dnd lore really well? I'm tryna cook up a background for my character but its hard without knowing all the lore shenanigans

[severe rampart]

Favorite death? besides Deck of Many Things

[jolly canyon]

Do you mean lore for the Forgotten Realms setting? (BG3 world)

[real wagon]

thats the most commonly used one right? yea that one

[viral kraken]

#dnd-lore if you don't get the info you need here

[jolly canyon]

Most common one for 5e I believe. Not sure about past. Uhm my knowledge is limited but I figured asking you what you meant might help others help you. Go to #dnd-lore and ask specific questions like "what are the major cities for FR" or "how come are X races" something that could help build a background

Religions, gods ect too

[real wagon]

its kinda dead tho

eh I'll leave a message ig

[jolly canyon]

Someone will see it eventually I'm sure. I'd help but idk much about that setting

[crimson gulch]

That's like asking my favirote kid

One of my very first player kills stands out though, planescape campaign, player walked into a crematorium.

Did not come out

[severe rampart]

now why did they walk into a crematorium

[viral kraken]

they needed cream

failed the int check

[inner silo]

What epic boons are decent for a monk?

[glass granite]

Night spirit, fate, irresistible offence

[inner silo]

Oki, thanks!

Also since the asi improvement is only by 1, does it matter which ability i choose?

[fossil shuttle]

Or if you want to be really annoying, speed

[viral kraken]

if it won't change any modifiers, str is the only score that cares about the raw value, and even then, only for jumps

[fossil shuttle]

Unless you're taking Irresistable offence, in which case str and dex also

[viral kraken]

ya, i forgot about shadows too, where another point in str could be the thing that keeps you alive

[sleek needle]

What D&D campaign book does anyone suggest for their first dm

[flint ledge]

For 2014 or 2024?

For 2024 I hear heroes of the borderlands is a nice starting book

[tall forge]

best to start 2024 since thats where dnd is heading fully

[jolly canyon]

Yee HotB slaps. Great beginner kit

[tall forge]

also is just a better version of dnd 5e imo

[formal solar]

I want to watch a playthrough to get a better understanding of the game. Do yall have any good podcast or youtube recommendations of dnd capmagin series

[tall forge]

The Adventure zone is pretty funny

very rules light so you get more of a vibe

Otherwise,Not another DND podcast is slightly more rules focused

[viral kraken]

not so much gameplay itself, but adventuring academy is really informative

[tall forge]

Critical role overall is also good

[viral kraken]

lol does emily or murph dm? or do they switch? i have not tuned in yet

[tall forge]

But most importantly dont fall into the trap where you believe Podcast dnd is what dnd should be

[sleek needle]

Is hero’s of the borderlands in the 2025 starter set?

[formal solar]

i just think its a good way to listen to a campaign and get an idea of how a character should be played lol

thanks all!

[jolly canyon]

Yup!

[tall forge]

ok thats what i mean tho

[jolly canyon]

Or do you mean a bundle on d&dbeyond?

[tall forge]

remember, DND Podcasts are SPECIFICALLY made for listeners to enjoy

[formal solar]

ik! ive just never played before so i have no real idea how to do it

[jolly canyon]

Yee actual plays are people more-or-less preforming d&d rather than playing it

I still love watching tho

[tall forge]

if i recorded my dnd sessions into podcasts theyd be snoozefests

but for my players and I who are intensely invested, its more exciting than any podcast

[sleek needle]

Awesome sauce
Thank you fellas!

[flint ledge]

If I my dnd sessions were a podcast it would be a combination of a snooze fest and a lot of yelling

[tall forge]

turns out most people dont want to listen in to big narrative made by the average person

and thats completely fine

[last tundra]

guys how can i make an atomic bomb as artificier?

my DM been running peaceful cute campaign recently

wanna add some fun into it

[idle oar]

Ask your DM - it's their game and they decide what rules apply and whether something is even possible in their game setting.

[last tundra]

i want it to be surprise bruh

[weary palm]

should i play a fighter or a wizard in my next campaign

[last tundra]

Wizard all day

[weary palm]

-# (i forgot what it was called)

[idle oar]

As there are no official rules on "making an atomic bomb" its all up to the DM to decide.

[weary palm]

is there anything in particular that makes wizard better than fighter

[last tundra]

spells go boom, fighter go swing swing

boom wins over swing, easy logic

[weary palm]

however

just throw your axe lmao

[last tundra]

axe doesnt go boom, it goes shing

[weary palm]

also i robbed some dude so now i can cast eldrich blast

[last tundra]

meteor swarm go boom boom boom boom

[weary palm]

what

[last tundra]

quadriple boom

[toxic sand]

Cast gate to open a portal to the Sun.

[idle oar]

Regarding classes - what matters most is what sounds like fun for you and fits the table. Fighters get to attack a lot and have features that enhance those attacks. Wizards have lots of spells that can handle many types of situations (assuming they prepared the right one for the day).

[last tundra]

isnt it gonna burn me too 😭

[weary palm]

however i can do 40 whole damage to an enemy in a single turn as a fighter

[toxic sand]

So will a bomb. That wasn't the question you asked. Lol

[weary palm]

~~ honestly the most impressive thing i've seen a wizard do was cast some moon laser thing ~~ nvm that was a druid

[idle oar]

Moonbeam?

Druids can cast that as well

[last tundra]

how about 100d6 per one turn?

[weary palm]

i guess

[last tundra]

oh my bad, two turns*

[weary palm]

excuse me

[last tundra]

prismatic wall is wild

u js gotta somehow make creature lift/levitate

go trough prismatic wall up once

and then when falling it goes there twice

[tiny drift]

Hey this is important conversation cuz I got a question

[weary palm]

dude i'm fourth level

[last tundra]

oh 4th level?

[weary palm]

how many levels even are there

[idle oar]

20

[last tundra]

20 levels

but only 9 levels of spells

[toxic sand]

In general, casters will end up much stronger than martials. So that's will be pretty common advice. But if your campaign is ending before or around level 9-11, you might not notice it much at a normal table.

But all classes can be fun to the right people. If you just want to bonk stuff, bonk stuff.

[weary palm]

i mean i have like 5 more armor class than the rest of the party

[severe fox]

armor class is nothing in the face of a saving throw (or magic missle)

[last tundra]

armor class isnt everything, especially when enemy casts something needind wisdom/charisma/intelligence save throw

[toxic sand]

A well built medium level caster will have similar AC to a front liner. With more protection in Silvery Barbs. Shield, and absorb elements.

[weary palm]

the humble lava mephit

[severe fox]

truth

[last tundra]

btw its funny how one dip into lava makes you lose 10d10 hitpoints

[severe fox]

it IS lava

[last tundra]

yeah gng ikr

[severe fox]

you know the really hot stuff

[last tundra]

bucket of lava making more damage than literal fireball 🥀

[turbid sand]

its a dip tho

[last tundra]

lava is that tuff

[fossil shuttle]

Yeah, my party is at level 13, and by the time my rogue died 2 sessions ago, literally all he ever did in combat was stab someone with a knife, shoot them with his crossbow, or, on maybe 3 occasions, throw a smoke grenade that ultimately only stopped one enemy ranger from being able to attack the rest of the party

[toxic sand]

But again, don't let the caster martial conversation bother you. Martials can be perfectly viable and cool. And most GMs adjust to the party a bit anyway lol

[last tundra]

casters supremacy all day

[severe fox]

i mean its the same logic as how creatures fall 500ft instantly

[turbid sand]

how tho

[severe fox]

sorcerer being on par with wizard in 2024 is so peak

[fossil shuttle]

Ain't it 100ft a turn?

[severe fox]

thats just how dnd falling is

[turbid sand]

" on par "

[severe fox]

its 500 feat a turn

[severe fox]

yeah with all the buffs its gotten its pretty strong now

[weary palm]

but if it's flying

it does way less

[severe fox]

like getting advantage on all attack rolls and a +1 to save DC for a min

there capstone from 2014 is a level 5 ability now

[toxic sand]

What subclass? I'm a terrible power gamer, choosing to play Rogue anyway, and I'm doing a ton on Thief 3/ wiz 1. Decanter of Endless Water trip, rope, manacles, Ball bearings, picking pockets in combat, scrolls, ect

[severe fox]

not to mention the meta magic buffs

[limber trail]

Worth remembering is that most casters can cast prismatic wall once in a day. A martial can go on hitting an enemy for 60ish damage at least at that level, for a lot longer (varies from caster to caster). Doing the quick maths off the top of my head, at 17th level at least the barbarian I DM for can in a single turn deal a lot of damage. I just rolled an example of the damage they'll have just with feats and class features and it was about 85 damage a round. Casters can do all that and more, sure, but they can do that for a handful of turns. This barbarian (and more broadly, other martials) can do this for theoretically hundreds of rounds of combat.

[last tundra]

btw guys do yall know any high CR rating creatures that can shapeshift?

[severe fox]

yeah but for casters they can do much more then just damage

[limber trail]

A lot of Dragons can

[last tundra]

which ones

[fossil shuttle]

Phantom. had like, 3 chances to use wails, took tokens but I basically died instantly the first time I was on death ticks, and used ghostwalk once, but the disadvantage got evened out by a faerie fire

[severe fox]

sul ketish and rak kultish

[last tundra]

i js wanna true morph into one permanently

and do the same thing to my party members

[severe fox]

i think only the metal dragons can shapeshift

[last tundra]

oh

good ones can, nice

[toxic sand]

Prismatic wall is cool. But it's not even in my top 20 of game breaking spells. Wizards don't really want to deal damage when they can end/win encounters.

[turbid sand]

i forgot what makes wizard a better choice than sorcerer?

genuinely asking

[fossil shuttle]

I always though of it as more like the chromatics could learn, they just don't want to

[severe fox]

mainly just the huge spell list they get and thats about it

[last tundra]

more range of spells you can have + u get a cool book

[toxic sand]

Although Reverse Gravity + Prismatic Wall always makes me laugh

[last tundra]

almost one shotting tarasque is always fun

[severe fox]

from statblock i remember only metal dragons from shapeshift when they reach either young or adult

[turbid sand]

its so sad rn, most campaign dont even run at levl 20

[last tundra]

yea my dms mostly run max at 13

[fossil shuttle]

Toss Jalarrzi's Storm of Radiance in there for some extra fun

[toxic sand]

I feel like Phantom isn't a subclass until level 9. Lol

[last tundra]

i wish there was more levels than js 20

[severe fox]

theres a good reason for that

[limber trail]

Level 20 has a long of jank and nonsense that makes it hard to run at

[severe fox]

like SIMI being one of THE strongest spells

[turbid sand]

i mean i wanna see my character full potential

[severe fox]

even in 2024

[limber trail]

300ish damage on average is a lot but it's nowhere near a one shot

[toxic sand]

Level 20 dnd is just rock paper scissors lolol

[last tundra]

600 maximum damage, doesnt tarasque have ~800 hp?

[weary palm]

what

[fossil shuttle]

There's actually a book that I believe just ended it's kickstart that raises to 25

[severe fox]

700ish

[weary palm]

wtf did i just walk into

[last tundra]

yeh

[limber trail]

You're never gonna deal the maximum damage

[last tundra]

there's always hope

[limber trail]

With the amount of dice you're rolling you'll be pretty close to the average

[fossil shuttle]

Blinds and deafens with no save, and with a save deals some radiant and thunder damage

[paper portal]

yeah thats why me and some other ppl have been looking at a campaign where martials get to be level 20+ but casters are kept to like level 7, obviously this only works if youre at an optimized table so the martial caster divide is big enough for that to not be super unbalanced lol

[last tundra]

• it gets restrained TWICE and blinded TWICE on top of it

[turbid sand]

i mean dnd is a luck game

[idle oar]

There's #optimization if folks want to dive into optimization topics

[last tundra]

but idk if tarasque have immunities for that

[idle oar]

Please use it

[severe fox]

nope

i remember running a Tarraque twice

[viral kraken]

you can't get either of those twice fwiw

[last tundra]

there's always hope twin

[severe fox]

could always use oath paladin

[paper portal]

which oath lol

[severe fox]

genie!

[idle oar]

What are folks doing D&D wise this weekend?

[paper portal]

ohh

[limber trail]

It doesn't have immunities but it does have blindsight and legendary resistances to prevent it from even getting reverse gravitied

[turbid sand]

why is dragon arrogant?

[severe fox]

thats if it can hold onto something

[last tundra]

yeah fair

[turbid sand]

waiting on my 5 delayed campaign ( since last 2 months)

[paper portal]

ngl i should look at the idea of porting 2024 stuff back to 2014 cus ive heard some ppl mention it before

[jolly canyon]

Westmarch at 10am(my first game ever). My 4th session for my Campaign at 6pm as DM

[idle oar]

Have fun!

[limber trail]

My Waterdeep game was sadly cancelled but I'm still coming down from a really really fun session a couple days ago which I ran for my group.

Debuted some new bad guys, staged a major political assassination, set the stage for a war, and had one player literally shaking in fear. That's a win.

[severe fox]

i rolled a nat 20 and a nat 1 im so good at this game

[fast latch]

THREE campaigns baby

[turbid sand]

why is dragon arrogant?

[severe fox]

most chromo dragons are

[severe rampart]

Five sessions

[last tundra]

i mean i kinda get em, too prideful

[idle oar]

They don't have to be? But dragons are often very powerful creatures so...

[fast latch]

Sounds sick

Tell me more?

[limber trail]

That's somewhat of a flavour requirement, I'd say the tarrasque could A) just hold onto something with its tails/claws/whatever or B) to have more fun with it, you could flavour it as the tarrasque just hunkering down and becoming too heavy to lift. But either way, reverse gravity has a save which the tarrasque can autosucceed

[severe fox]

500 nat 1s

[fast latch]

And like 60 percent of Metallics and 80 percent of Gems

[severe rampart]

Reroll all of them (Halfling Luck)

[turbid sand]

metallics are the wise one

[severe fox]

i mean metallics are good rather then evil

[last tundra]

are there any creatures higher than cr 30 in D&D? :/

[severe fox]

no

[atomic kayak]

Not in 5e*

[severe fox]

cr 30 is the max

[fast latch]

You can be Good aligned and arrogant

[turbid sand]

homebrewing

[severe fox]

yeah but its less likely

[jolly canyon]

Homebrew cr 50 mon but I'm only lvl 4

[turbid sand]

what the hell

[severe fox]

the max cr for dnd in general was cr 100 in 3.5

the great wyrm time dragon is 1 creature that reach it

[severe rampart]

IIRC it's the thing that they dealt 500 million damage to and it wasn't even bloodied

[weary palm]

what even is cr

[idle oar]

Challenge Rating

[severe fox]

looking at old dnd creatures is also very fun

[severe rampart]

Challenge rating,

Cr 4 = 4 adventurers of level 4 needed to easily defeat the creature

[fast latch]

Basically how hard something is to kill

[turbid sand]

u mean the guy yesterday that ends 3 month campaign within 2 days?

[severe fox]

2014 is was pretty bad with how CR was

[turbid sand]

thats so hilarious

[limber trail]

The party had been travelling for a couple of sessions with some paladins who were the respective leaders of two huge paladin orders (The Orders of Devotion and Redemption, respectfully). They'd been travelling for about a week in-game when they were in the middle of a cursed patch of swamp where undead giants roam at night. They came to a waystation, an old fort which was long abandoned but had the Hallow spell active, making it a safe haven for travellers.

Some assassins showed up, unbeknownst to them, and in disguse, dispelled the hallow late at night. The castle was besieged by these undead giants, as the party fought for some safety. They fought off the giants, but in the midst of the combat the assassins struck, and in one single round took down and killed two level 16 Paladins.

These particular meanies were doubly bad, being backstory characters for one player. So that player, who had gotten a front row seat to just how bad these guys are, got to then watch as they killed some of their only allies. (Sorry Undying for the wall of text)

[severe fox]

i still dont think that the old tarrqasque was cr 30

it was stupid boring

[fast latch]

Damn that’s absolutely awesome

[severe fox]

mainly cause most of its attacks were just BPS

[severe rampart]

Games like those that get too ridiculous aren't for me, what do you mean you fell through the void and encountered God, and dealt 500 million damage to him, AND you were level 2

[limber trail]

CR isn't necessarily about complexity. The Tarrasque is just that beefy.

[turbid sand]

ikr, like bro its not even dnd no more

[severe fox]

on the lowend a raging barbarian could tank most of the attack and on the high end if you had armor of armor of invulnerability you could solo a tarraque

[turbid sand]

not even ttrpg

[weary palm]

can you create water in someones lungs

[severe fox]

no

[fast latch]

I like ridiculous campaigns, but not over one million damage ridiculous

I DM one and I’m in one

[turbid sand]

u can blast it with chromatic orbs tho

[paper portal]

this is what we call the youtube shorts murder hobo and none of it works according to the game rules, it's just made to get views on social media

[weary palm]

what\

[weary palm]

dam

[severe fox]

i still think its silly that a paladin with a armor of invulnerability could easily beat the old tarr

[turbid sand]

aye hes new to this kind of thing

[paper portal]

yeah i figured

[idle oar]

You can ask your DM but the short answer is no, a creatures lungs are not targetable and do not constitute a container by the concepts of the rules.

[paper portal]

nothing wrong with being new :3

[severe rampart]

Yeah, the only way I'm letting a player of mine do this is through a "How do you want to do this"

[severe fox]

mainly cause its claw bite and tail attacks werent magical

[fast latch]

It has to be in an open container

[severe rampart]

For flavor if they want to

[turbid sand]

"How do you want to end him" oh my god

[fast latch]

You could argue a person with their mouth open is an open container

[limber trail]

A tarrasque has a very high move speed. It could probably evade attacks waiting for a moment of weakness, realizing that hitting this armoured foe is a lot less fun than going back to crushing buildings.

It also has thunderous bellow, the thunder damage of which is debatably magical.

[rustic gulch]

Hi guys

[severe rampart]

Dude you don't even know how good it feels to get a "how do you want to do this" and describe how you attack a monster

[rustic gulch]

I’m like really really new to DND. I have no clue where to start.

[weary palm]

how large does a container have to be

[idle oar]

Check out #learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers

[last tundra]

sad

[rustic gulch]

I have a character I made on dndbeyond tho

[turbid sand]

i mean its the same thing

[viral kraken]

lungs are not a thing in dnd at all, much less a "container"

[severe rampart]

It also could become comedic, like this Ogre Zombie that just didn't want to die in my campaign

It got sliced in half diagonally, burnt, and stomp on, and it still didn't die (high con save rolls)

[last tundra]

ooo what class?

[idle oar]

Cool. If you want feedback on it check out #character-discussion

[rustic gulch]

Is paladin a class?

[turbid sand]

sometimes homebrewing is so fun yet tiring at the same time

[last tundra]

ooo

[severe rampart]

It is

[rustic gulch]

Guys please bear with me 🤞😭

[last tundra]

ur almost my twin

[rustic gulch]

Oo cool

[weary palm]

what

[severe rampart]

I'm just killing time chatting here because I'm dming curse of Strahd in 4-5 hours

[severe fox]

curses your strahd

[turbid sand]

i wish i have the book

[weary palm]

tfym lungs dont exist

[paper portal]

dnd is tomorrow for me but i should be finishing my character for another campaign lol

[viral kraken]

the dmg is clear that dnd is not a physics simulator. there's nothing in the rules about lungs, so it's reasonable to say lungs aren't a thing in dnd

[paper portal]

dnd doesnt work by real world logic

[severe rampart]

Strahds your curse
(4/5 of my players are cursed)

[severe fox]

in dnd "lungs" arent a thing you can target

[rough basalt]

I'm taking a breather after finishing the lore for locations and POIs for one country in my homebrew world setting guide.

[severe fox]

unless the spell says otherwise

[paper portal]

im playing a warlock 3/fighter 3/monk 14 lmao

[severe fox]

the spell does what it says and just that

[weary palm]

then explain why i can make a ball of matches covered in gasoline and throw it at someone

[idle oar]

Because your DM allowed it.

[turbid sand]

tf hows that work

[fast latch]

However

You do need to breathe in DnD

Needing to breathe is evidence of having lungs

[paper portal]

i never said it worked

[severe fox]

it doesnt do anything unless you light it

[viral kraken]

lots of things without lungs need to breathe

[severe rampart]

One of my players is cursed by Lycanthrophy so I'm planning to (spoilers, don't read if you're my player) ||attempt to scam them using an "anti Lycanthrophy" potion made of wolfsbane that'll just poison them, of course if they get suspicious and make a successful insight check they'll notice||

[fast latch]

HAH

Smart

[severe fox]

dhampiers dont need to breathe do they just not have lungs 🤔

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, there's multiple of them cursed too so if it doesn't work on him, surely it'll work on someone...

[turbid sand]

what is this guy making

[severe fox]

that stat spread is sounds annoying

unless you rolled

[uncut bison]

Hey where can I find campaigns to join?

[paper portal]

its cus the thing i'm doing lets martials be higher level and i wanted to abuse eb scaling by level so i ended up with a bunch of monk levels lol

[idle oar]

#looking-for-players and #looking-for-community

See also #find-a-game

[uncut bison]

thanks

[scenic turret]

Totally off topic....
But man I really want to play in a magical girl themed DnD campaign. Not fluff magical girl. I'm talking Madoka Magica, Magical Girl Raising project, Yuuki Yuna is a hero type shit.....

[severe fox]

are monks damage dice in 2014 pretty bad?

[rough basalt]

The "evidence of lungs" would fall under the "bad faith arguments"

[limber trail]

Oh is this the jank weird casters level 7 / martials level 20 thing you mentioned earlier

[paper portal]

yeah its like 8/14/12/8/16/18 but thats with half elf racials and a half feat

[paper portal]

nah its a similar one though

[turbid sand]

isnt really that annoying tbh

[fast latch]

Ah yes, like earthworms

[paper portal]

sounds like good fun

[severe fox]

you need at least a 13 to muitclass

so he needs at least a 13 in dex or str wisdom and charisma

[paper portal]

monks kinda already struggle with MADness but luckily i dont plan on using unarmed strikes or anything

[rough basalt]

I don't think many dms remember that rule exists

[turbid sand]

i mean you get 15 , 13 , 12

[paper portal]

people dont realise multiclass reqs are a thing??

[severe fox]

con as well

[rough basalt]

Wouldn't surprise me.

[severe fox]

it legit tells you on dnd beyond 😭

[turbid sand]

10

[limber trail]

I've seen some people really misunderstand how multiclassing works

[rough basalt]

You'd be surprised what people will not notice.

[paper portal]

that is true lol

[severe fox]

it wont let you muticlass without a 13 but ok

[turbid sand]

if you want annoying stat its arcane archer

[paper portal]

dnd players are shockingly bad at reading for a game that can be done entirely with text

[rough basalt]

Ah well not everyone uses ddb also

[severe fox]

thats understandable

idk how otherwebsites handle muticlassing

[rough basalt]

There's a not small amount of players that don't even know what a d20 does

[last tundra]

whats a d20

[limber trail]

I once played with a cleric/wizard multiclass who A) was using heavy armour that they were not proficient with / strong enough to use and B) would take spells of their highest level for both classes, when they should've just had level 2 cleric spells and level 3 wizard spells or smth like that.

[severe fox]

roll20

[last tundra]

whats roll20

[limber trail]

oh its like an actual play series

[rough basalt]

They for the most part just have the dm play the game for them.

[paper portal]

thats crazy

[turbid sand]

the mods are on his way

[last tundra]

yea ik im js trolling 😭

[turbid sand]

watch out.

[paper portal]

i do like playing heavy armored characters without the str for it but you still need the proficiency lol

[clear goblet]

Bro fell for it 💀

[limber trail]

when i called a d20 an actual play series it was pretty clearly a joke

[fast latch]

The die you use for attack rolls, ability checks, and saving throws

[clear goblet]

I thought you were talking about roll20 and meant something else tbh

[last tundra]

whats a die

[rough basalt]

Ah those things I make my dm do for me /j

[limber trail]

No I was making a joke about how dimension 20, the dropout ttrpg actual play series, is often also shortened to d20

[weary palm]

what are d6es even used for

[clear goblet]

That makes more sense lol

[hollow estuary]

Wraps of Unarmed power stack and dont require attunement.

Infinite Damage

[rough basalt]

Stuff that uses d6s for

[limber trail]

Damage, Wizards/Sorcerers HP, a lot of monsters have D6 recharge abilities, etc

[clear goblet]

usually damage

[turbid sand]

i remember when my dm underestimate me, while im new to dnd, he force to not allowing double smite on 1 turn cuz im gonna kill his favourite npc

[clear goblet]

Or hit die

[fossil shuttle]

Rogue's sneak attack, and a lot of them. My level 13 rolled 16d6 on a crit

[still plover]

You're fine.

[rough basalt]

Ah yeah the new/bad dm play of nerfing 2014 paladin

[turbid sand]

they banning lucky too

[limber trail]

I used to play a 2014 paladin. Spamdumping smite is definitely a misplay. Let them make their mistakes

[fast latch]

FIREBALL

[clear goblet]

What is a d20 used for? Wrong answers only

[paper portal]

lucky is pretty busted for low encounter days to be fair

[paper portal]

ignoring

[rough basalt]

Hitting on other players

[limber trail]

all of my baddies' damage dice (I have not run a single monster rules as written in years)

[paper portal]

they said wrong answers only /silly

[lean wigeon]

it's the thing inside an 8 ball

[hollow estuary]

Two handed greatsword damage.

[turbid sand]

i could still tolerate that but not allowing player to use their feature? what the hell

[clear goblet]

If you're a bard, that's totally correct tho

[weary palm]

i thought that was a shitpost

[wind delta]

Hey guys, I got a problem so I ordered character sheets and it was 2024 version of this edition instead of 2014 can I still use these character sheets or for 2014 5e or no

[fast latch]

It does 8d6 damage

[fossil shuttle]

Rolling an attack from an ancient dragon on a player with an ac of 9

[rough basalt]

Nah fireball itself is.
There's no actual fireball spell in dnd 5e

[limber trail]

There's no fire in DnD 5e.

[rough basalt]

It's a collective misunderstanding that people believe exists

[paper portal]

there's no DnD 5e

[turbid sand]

tell me

[rough basalt]

Such as milestone being "you level up when I say you do"

[limber trail]

Yes there is be reasonable.

[weary palm]

what the hell is a lava mephit made of then

[paper portal]

lava obviouslt

[limber trail]

Um, lava? It's right there in the name.

[jolly agate]

Paladin: Oath of Treachery might be the only no nerd oath. Would def play it

[clear goblet]

Guys, I think we're falling a bit off the deep end here..

[hollow estuary]

Players have the ability to be obscenely powerful at any level if they know what their doing.

Let them have their lucky and be greatful it isent a human barbarian scimitar spear wielder.

[severe fox]

Lava and magic

[fossil shuttle]

Ya think?

[jolly canyon]

That's how I'm running mine becausei have no idea what im doing I'm God

[clear goblet]

Just maybe. Perchance

[weary palm]

what about the weird fire creature that appears in campfires when goblins pray to it or whatever

[paper portal]

idk that sounds like a pretty normal build to me lol

[rough basalt]

It's funny cause the community has this collective misunderstanding that's what milestone is.

[hollow estuary]

It gives you rage and four attacks at level 5.

[paper portal]

mass hallucination

[rough basalt]

Or that milestone is where the story levels you

[clear goblet]

As a dm, that checks out

[paper portal]

yeah i know

[turbid sand]

normal take, milestone is better than exp

[weary palm]

stealth is cringe

[jolly canyon]

I'm still confused on it but I am told not to be to stingy with levels. This will be a learning experience for my table and I lol

[weary palm]

just kill the enemy before they realize that you're there

[rough basalt]

Harsh reality: actual milestone is just XP without telling the players.

[clear goblet]

So I reacted with a fire emoji, only to realize that we're in a D&D server and that could easily mean casting fireball to burn your take down

[paper portal]

yeah some campaigns will go for years and only level up 3 times

[hollow estuary]

Highkey I wish it was this.

[jolly canyon]

What the

[severe fox]

it kinda is

[turbid sand]

its not

[severe rampart]

It kind of is

[turbid sand]

no your making it a hottake now

[clear goblet]

That's disgusting-

[rough basalt]

It is

[limber trail]

The best implementations of milestone, the DM will make the next level up really clear ahead of time. Ideally it'd be telegraphed 5+ sessions in advance. It gives players a clear sense of what their next goal is, and what the next ~10 sessions might be spent working towards.

[clear goblet]

More fire it is 🔥

[turbid sand]

milstone what i remember is what the player achieved

[severe fox]

its either that or the game tells you when the players level up

[hollow estuary]

The thing about XP is their is a set in stone requirement for the players to level up.

For milestone its just upto the DM.

Invisible party wide EXP would be FIRE THOUGH.

[fast latch]

I just level up the PCs after every big boss

[rough basalt]

"Milestone is players do something noteworthy and you decide what amount of XP that noteworthy action is based on their level and amount of PCs and award it."

[severe fox]

what about modules that tell the players when to level up?

[rough basalt]

Story based progression

[severe fox]

or the dm tells the players

[toxic sand]

I do milestone just so my players don't ask me "How Much XP do we get" after every action. Lmao

[rough basalt]

Dm based progression

[jolly canyon]

I like that one

[limber trail]

I see DMs just give out XP at the end of session and it works easily enough

[paper portal]

arent story based and milestone the same thing

[rough basalt]

Nope

[severe fox]

one is the module telling the dm when the players level up

[hollow estuary]

I mean I let my players start with a stat array of 18 16 14 12 10 8 and +3 weapons/focus's. Mostly so I can throw dragons and iron golems at them.

[clear goblet]

So how often do people actually still use XP leveling...

[rough basalt]

People collectively believe it is tho.

[limber trail]

I play a campaign that uses XP. It's been fun.

[paper portal]

ah so its kinda the same but one is the module and the other is the dm

[weary palm]

do fish exist in dnd

[turbid sand]

alright dude

[severe fox]

duh?

[turbid sand]

it is

[clear goblet]

Only if God says so

[woven flint]

Hello, friends

[limber trail]

Range of answers there

[clear goblet]

Fair enough

[paper portal]

hi tokii

[severe fox]

carbs exist everywhere

[limber trail]

Hello, Foe.

[weary palm]

what about horses

[severe fox]

crabs

[clear goblet]

Why hello there young traveller

[paper portal]

what about carps

[rough basalt]

I use XP for my campaigns.

[severe fox]

i meant crabs

[clear goblet]

Horses will always exist

[severe fox]

crabs will also always exist

[woven flint]

I was looking at species from another system (Starfinder)
And... y'all should look up Bantrid
They're... creatures.

[toxic sand]

Yes sure. But have you considered I didn't tally XP and couldn't be bothered to do it after I just DM'd the players not following the plot and having to wing it? Lol

[fast latch]

Hi Tokii

[hollow estuary]

When the wizard is screaming for me to heal them but I highkey just wanna fish. 🎣

wrong message

[jolly canyon]

The westmarch I'm in is xp. Curious how that will work. Will I like.. add xp to my character based on what the dm tells me?

[weary palm]

real

[clear goblet]

I can attest to this fact

[paper portal]

i looked at the pf2e rules once and that was enough to put me off every related system /silly

[limber trail]

My DM just awards XP for the monsters killed and the big things. But yeah fair, I also run my games using milestone.

[severe rampart]

What was the term of evolving into crabs? Karsification?

[rough basalt]

"You level up when I say you do" is too open, story based I don't really have a story, and milestone is just XP without calling it XP anyways

[woven flint]

I want..
A BantridGaming YouTube channel STAT

[severe fox]

yeah the throery that evertything will turn into crabs!

[paper portal]

carcinization iirc

[severe rampart]

That's what it is

[woven flint]

I'll get you. /silly

[paper portal]

:3

[severe fox]

btw whats your pfp

[woven flint]

I've found myself yearning for more D&D and Pathfinder 😔

[severe fox]

ive always been super curious about t

[hollow estuary]

I hate that its called XP and not EXP because im used to the text-emoticon "XP" which stands for "Im Dead Lol"

[woven flint]

Old Tabaxi Grave Cleric of Kelemvor I played

[limber trail]

more?

[rough basalt]

Ye p2fe ain't afraid to make species that aren't just different colored humans

[severe fox]

may i see him

[paper portal]

im meant to be learning lancer at some point

[woven flint]

I'll put him in #dnd-arts-and-crafts again lol
Since it's been a while

[severe fox]

Pf2e is so strange since its all about your race mainly

[weary palm]

EXP too is an acronym /ref

[rough basalt]

You can read the DnD 4e Players Handbook on combat to research Lancer ahead of time.

[clear goblet]

One of my players in my current campaign has a giant robot arm that's bigger than it should be. He landed in a waterfall right before finding one of the enemies, grabbed a fish, made it accelerate whatever speed it goes at (homebrew feature), and launched it out of his arm like a cannon at the enemy

[turbid sand]

crabdigistation

[toxic sand]

Still reading Fabula Ultima and Vagabond here

[turbid sand]

is fabult a simpled dnd?

genuinely asking

[rough basalt]

Fabula is a system meant to emulate JRPGs

[fast latch]

Sick concept

[woven flint]

Go now, look at my old man.

[toxic sand]

Nah. It's final fantasy. Different system completely

[rough basalt]

The English answer to the Japanese tabletop Sword World but with more combat

[clear goblet]

First time I've heard 4e being mentioned ever

[feral fulcrum]

Fabula Ultima is not anything like a simplified DND IMO, also we're firmly getting into #non-dnd-topics now.

[rough basalt]

Since until recently Sword World had no intention on porting outside of Japan.

[clear goblet]

Feel like we reached that point a little while ago..

[hollow estuary]

Lances are really really good.

For some reason a lance is compatable with polearm master (has heavy and reach properties)

has topple, which is the second best mastery in the game. (Topple is a knock prone without a size restriction. yes, your pole-dancing lancer can topple a tarrasque if it somehow fails the save)

10 foot reach, 1d10 damage, topple, can wield one handed if mounted, meaning it stacks with giant fly trick.

Easily best "Polearm"

[fast latch]

What’s the coolest Pf2e race?

[paper portal]

chat will always end up off topic if you let the conversation run long enough thats just how talking works

[turbid sand]

scimitar better gng

[rough basalt]

I like the Shoony. They're basically Bulldog people

[woven flint]

Perhaps..

[feral fulcrum]

I don't know why you feel the need to put Polearm in quotes? A Lance is basically just a Pike. It's a long pointy thing, at the end of a long sturdy pole.

[toxic sand]

Human

[paper portal]

im gonna blow you up with my big mech if you arent careful

[woven flint]

My favorite Pathfinder species is...
Minotaur :3
Because they're large sized creatures and aren't generically evil coded

[paper portal]

wow thats also my favourite lancer mech (based off the art at least)

[woven flint]

You're asking for trouble mister!!!

[turbid sand]

whats the best mastery of 5.5e?

[rough basalt]

I'd say Nick

[turbid sand]

id say nick

[hollow estuary]

Yes I agree.

so if you stack the giant fly find familiar to have a free flying mount, with the polearm, you can now hit from 10 feet away, topple them, then rush in to use your scimitar to shred.

[paper portal]

nick or push

[rough basalt]

Since it made Dual Wield comparable to other weapon styles and let dual wielding be more available for martials

[woven flint]

Nick.. it's arguably the strongest lol

[fossil shuttle]

More of a lance is big pointy thing, less long stick

[paper portal]

push is insanely good too tbh people always underrate forced movement

[fast latch]

Especially near cliffs

[rough basalt]

Or near spike growth

[fast latch]

Athamaru looks cool to me

[feral fulcrum]

Unless you have bottomless pits in every combat, it's not going to be a common occurence

[fickle heart]

Best in a vacuum or best as part of a build, or both?

[paper portal]

even in open areas any form of push is fantastic

[rough basalt]

What makes Push good is comboing with control magic imo

[turbid sand]

both

[rough basalt]

Push someone back into Entangle or Spike Growth

[paper portal]

theres also just the fact that so many monsters are primarily melee so being able to stay out of that is hella good

[rough basalt]

Or Push a few enemies together so your bard can hypnotic pattern all of them.

[woven flint]

Push someone into a wall of fire 🔥

[rough basalt]

Ye Push into a wall of fire

[hollow estuary]

1. Nick.
2. Topple.
3. Cleave
4. Push
5. Slow.
6. Graze.
7. Vex
8. Sap.

[jolly canyon]

If you push a creature into a wall then it'll fall over and a large X will appear above their head so you can use your finisher. Trust

[turbid sand]

dual weiding a scimitar is the best way ❤️

[viral kraken]

topple and sap are great fun

[severe rampart]

Correct

[woven flint]

That's incredibly low for Vex and incredibly high for Slow lol

[turbid sand]

not only they look cool

[paper portal]

i dont remember exactly how the mastery works but slow effects in general are also pretty underrated tbh mostly cus a lot of them are once per turn and that sucks

[hollow estuary]

Fathomless Bladelock that started out as a Fighter can reduce a target’s movement speed by 30 feet every turn safely out of melee range because the Whip both deals slashing damage and has the reach property.

Slow is amazing.

[woven flint]

Slow is amazing because you've got a build for lowering speed and therefore are biased for it 🤔

[hollow estuary]

thats kinda the whole point of masteries. specialized builds

[fickle heart]

Hmmm, still is tough to decide

[woven flint]

I mean, I suppose, but rating Vex so lowly is strange to me..
Considering Rogues exist

[paper portal]

but yeah push should be much higher, if it isnt the best mastery its second for sure

[rough basalt]

I think all masteries are pretty nice.

[hollow estuary]

okay yeah I agree, probably tied with topple in my opinion

[paper portal]

some are definitely less useful than others though

[jolly canyon]

My npcs don't get masteries I don't think, so I haven't experienced them yet

[rough basalt]

A couple do.

[woven flint]

Vex + Nick is probably one of the best combos in the game 😭

[weary palm]

you can reduce a creatures speed by it's speed by hitting it in the head with an axe

[rough basalt]

The CR10 warrior I think

[jolly canyon]

And my pc tomorrow is lvl 2 cleric so I still don't have a mastery

[turbid sand]

thats kinda hombrew

[woven flint]

Simple, but effective 🧐

[turbid sand]

but valid

[rough basalt]

I'm kinda tempted to find another game as a player

[viral kraken]

but if you vex and then make another attack on turn, now you don't have advantage on your next turn. does that not defeat much of the purpose?

[paper portal]

they mean killing it i think lol

[woven flint]

That's why you make your last attack before Nick with a Vex weapon

[turbid sand]

oh hell na, my mind is kinda foggy in this saturday morning😭

[weary palm]

i mean have you seen someone survive a flying axe

[hollow estuary]

" Reduce your speed to zero! Foul peasant! "

Okay Im gonna make one attack with my battleaxe.

" 20! "

" 15 damage! "

" does that kill it? "

Dm: " It's a commoner. "

[paper portal]

yeah theres a lot of pretty beefy monsters in this game

[fickle heart]

Like, Nick is extremely good for its specific build, but its pretty much dead outside of that. Stuff like Topple and Push are good for specific types of groups, but can be counterproductive in other groups.

[clear goblet]

Ahh yes, my favourate homebrew feature, decapitation

[viral kraken]

like you make an attack after the nick attack? otherwise the nick attack soaks up the vex

[turbid sand]

shushhh

[rough basalt]

Cleave is generally good

Same with Sap, Slow, and Graze.

[clear goblet]

If people remember it exists 🥀

[weary palm]

the humble fire creature thing that pops out of campfires when goblins pray to it or something

[rough basalt]

None of them can really accidentally hurt your allies in some way

[weary palm]

idk the name

[woven flint]

Cleave is good for crowd control
But annoying when things are too spread apart

[turbid sand]

whos gonna summon tiamat anyways

[hollow estuary]

Cleave stacks with flurry from grim hollow players guide for just two extra attacks

[turbid sand]

the cost was way too much

[woven flint]

That's why you switch to your push weapon 🔥

[clear goblet]

Not even annoying
Just negligible, no?

[rough basalt]

Ah yeah it'd suck in a totm game where the dm just makes everything out of 5ft of each other so you can't use it.

[woven flint]

That's not official content so..

[hollow estuary]

Farming aspects of tiamat is really good for loot at levels 11 and up.

[woven flint]

It's annoying to an extent ifn' ya ask me

[turbid sand]

but 5 dragons? idek how to get em

[fickle heart]

If I had to give a weighted answer across the board, I'd probably say that Vex is the best.

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah Vex is also generally good.

[hollow estuary]

Okay, so I know by heart every named dragons lair in faerun and their locations, what type of dragons do you need, Color and Age.

[turbid sand]

the same as 5 typa dragons tiamat heads are

[fickle heart]

That's not to say I think Vex is the best at any given time, but that Vex provides something that really has zero possible downsides. Plus, Vex is more consistent the more consistent you are, so it largely multiplies itself.

[hollow estuary]

You need to kill the dragons? Or do you just need the dragons

[jolly canyon]

What sense is best. Dark vision?

[viral kraken]

truesight?

[woven flint]

Vex
Nick
Topple
Push
Cleave
Sap
Slow
Graze
Is how I rate them

[clear goblet]

Nah, taste

[turbid sand]

The Mask of the Dragon Queen: The five ancient dragon masks must be combined to form this single artifact, acting as the primary conduit.
The Well of Dragons: The ritual must take place in the caldera of the Well of Dragons.
Sacrifices and Treasure: A hoard worth at least 500,000 gold pieces and 500 mortal sacrifices are needed to fuel the passage from the Nine Hells.
Chromatic Dragons: Five adult or older chromatic dragons (one of each color: red, blue, green, black, white) are required to channel the energy.
Ritual Casters: Red Wizards of Thay or similar powerful spellcasters are typically needed to perform the ceremony.

[paper portal]

did you eat nick

[clear goblet]

I was gonna say, probably truesight

[jolly canyon]

Yea need it for nuggies

[woven flint]

Oh shit, yeah hold on lol

[weary palm]

is 40 damage good for a 4th level fighter

[turbid sand]

basically i need to unite 5 dragon

that is alive

AND THEYRE CHROMA

[fossil shuttle]

Orb of Dragonkind and pray

[clear goblet]

I like the idea of tremorsense, but my fantasy action mind tells me that it should be able to do more

[turbid sand]

and hoping theyre not evil?

hmm

genuine state of thinking

[tawny bramble]

where does one find dnd groups for people with tight schedules? i heard about play by post is that a good idea?

[weary palm]

is finding a pseudodragon in a random cave good or bad

[turbid sand]

yes

[fossil shuttle]

I didn't say they won't kill you, I'm just providing a solution to the problem of getting five chromatic dragons to your location

[weary palm]

-# dont worry it's in a box

[clear goblet]

yes...