dnd-discussion

[tall forge]

Not as a valor bard tho

[swift copper]

I'm a bit dumb. Does sorcerer get one new spell every kevel and they can change one spell also?
I never played on them before

[tall forge]

Look at the spells known column of their spell table

[inner silo]

Ah i see

[inner silo]

In 2014 essentially yes iirc

[tall forge]

Anyway, if you wanna be a good sword bardsman, youre mostly a support

[hot gate]

Short answer is no on the first and yes on the second. The sorcerer table explains how many spells they have at each level. From level 11 on, the amount slows down, sometimes not providing a new spell. They can always replace one spell though.

[native bronze]

How does cartomancer work?

[hot gate]

They have some short range teleporation options. I'd read the subclass features to get the full picture though.

[olive stag]

I'd probably headpat them. "No more hunting gnolls after midnight, little one."

[severe rampart]

Anyone else here use the Owlbear "Fog" extension?

[lilac cliff]

guys im being jumped by 30 kobolds and no one has fireball help me

[severe rampart]

GG it's time to make a new character sheet

[lilac cliff]

there are 4 of us and were all level 20 surely we win

[rough basalt]

30 kobolds? Is this some lazy encounter making

[lilac cliff]

no the boss has a legendary action to summon them, we can stop it by damaging him but uuuh quick issue, 30 kobolds

[rough basalt]

Ah I see

[glass granite]

No one has an AOE spell?

[night flare]

Yo starting new campaign looking for players where do I announce this

[rough basalt]

#looking-for-players

[still plover]

Four level 20s, just fly over them. Or use a wall.

[rough basalt]

The commands are in #find-a-game

[stuck shuttle]

That seems like overkill on the DMs part, it seems like it’d be a snoozefest waiting for all those turns to resolve unless they broke it up into hordes/swarms

[lilac cliff]

everyone is the group is funny so we can break up the time inbetween turns

heres what it looks like

https://imgur.com/gallery/theres-30-kobolds-heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp-W9uclCS

[hazy venture]

To be fair to me as the dm, they all have artifacts and are level 20😭

[dire swallow]

Can someone help me remind me of the health item that is a potion that Refresh every new dawn/long rest? I know there's something like that but can't remember the name.

[lilac cliff]

closest thing i can think of is a staff of healing

[fair summit]

Dragon Vessel?

[dire swallow]

Yes I think that's it.

I'm just trying to find a helpful item for a druid healer. I got the staff of healing and moon sickle.

[olive stag]

Backstory is that my character fell on his head when he was a baby because his parents died after some tieflings attacked the village. A priest fended off the invaders and adopted my character. Nowadays, he's the type of oaf who finds rabbits confusing. Especially since all animals but rabbits hate him. He's also pretty brave and has a good heart.

[silk hare]

I mean what exactly do u mean by helpful?

e.g. broom of flying or wand of web is very helpful no matter what bc u control the battle/ cant be hit as easily

[fast latch]

What race/class?

[fast latch]

The Dragon’s Vessel? It’s like a drinking horn that can produce health potions

[tepid fiber]

Incredibly stupid question asking for a friend, Nuclear bomb 15 kilotons vs your average sized group of dragons

[stuck shuttle]

Whatever your DM needs the narrative to be

[halcyon forum]

The average sized group of dragons is a single dragon

[tall forge]

Dragons don’t particularly like grouping up

Its bad for the environment

[fast latch]

A nuclear bomb is like 30d10 Fire plus 30d10 Force, so I think the dragons are surviving, but taking lots of damage

[olive stag]

Human. Class...Fighter. Villager type with pitchfork, sickle and stuff.
Strength is definitely 10 or higher.

[silk hare]

thats homebrew no?

[stuck shuttle]

I don’t think there’s an official source on how much a nuclear armament does.

[silk hare]

since technically nuclear weapons dont exist so no damage number

[tepid fiber]

Interesting, Why are dragons so strong?

[knotty vine]

there isnt

[fast latch]

I literally just made up the numbers

[fast latch]

Are we talking about Adult or Ancient?

[tall forge]

Considering an airship crash is reccomended to be 20d6, this is a very underwhelming number you brought

[dire swallow]

I got warcaster, Asi and the genie touched background which gives Magic initiate wizard.

[silk hare]

bc they are one of the stronger bosses in the game

its called dungeons and DRAGONS

[tall forge]

A nuke would be literally inconceivable amount of damage for dnd

[silk hare]

I mean tbh Id advise against using nuclear weapons personally but u do u

[fast latch]

Okay, 40d10 each

[knotty vine]

i mean a metetor does some 20d6 fure and 20d6 blug

[silk hare]

depends on how much u adapt physics into it

[tepid fiber]

As in the lore reason (do the books have their own set lore) why do dragons have so much power? did they evolve it or did someone give it to them

[knotty vine]

they were made by two dragon gods duh

[dire swallow]

I get an additional origin feat from DM rules

[burnt valley]

spirit guardian solves, also no casters wth?

[silk hare]

radiation only does sth if you let DNA be a thing

[fast latch]

They were made by gods

[tepid fiber]

Were the dragons perhaps their first creation?

[tall forge]

Im pretty sure anything hit just dies

[silk hare]

(or rather let the radiation interact with the biology of sth in the first place)

yk, cos magic

[knotty vine]

me whos immune to all damage

[dire swallow]

My magic initiate is light, mending and shield.

[knotty vine]

isnt radiation just radiant damage

[silk hare]

I mean you MIGHT just roll all 1s

40 damage aint that much, 80 is survivable too at relevant lvls probably

[silk hare]

wouldnt say so

[knotty vine]

just parry

radiation is best represented by Radiant damage for immediate, intense exposure (like a blast or Sickening Radiance spell)

[silk hare]

depends on the type of radiation

alpha radiation could also be argued as bludgeoning bc its just small particles

[tall forge]

I meaaan

[knotty vine]

Radiant: Fits the theme of high-energy light/beams, similar to a "mini-sun" or magical burns.
Necrotic: Represents cellular breakdown, sickness, and withering of body tissues.
Poison: Used to represent the "poisoned" condition and, or, the sickness associated with radiation.

[olive stag]

You know what I found awesome in Genshin?

1. Windtrace's creator being called Gygax, the mind behind D&D.
2. Clorinde's Story Quest being a D&D session. ❤️

[tall forge]

Radiation could also be poison

[tepid fiber]

Radiation poisoning is a thing so i think thatll work

[tall forge]

Frankly i just dont use it tho

[tepid fiber]

Im gonna go to homebrew now thsi isnt offical DND

[tall forge]

Adding science to fantasy too much can make things real complicated

[silk hare]

Id be scared of setting a dangerous precedent with that stuff tbh

[tall forge]

Usually when you get to microscopic, youve gone too far

[knotty vine]

isnt that just starfinder

[silk hare]

even before then, the implications even from sth simple like gravity HAS effects on the microscopic if u really want to

[knotty vine]

dnd already has a black hole spell

[silk hare]

yup but that works bc "magic", not bc physics

[knotty vine]

because it aint about physics its about magic

[empty thicket]

2 if im not wrong
dark star and Ravenous void

[tall forge]

Its cool to combine science and magic

But inherently its self destructive to do so for your worldbuilding

[knotty vine]

once i starting reverting gravity like c moon i dont think physics is gonna work much longer

[silk hare]

I mean it CAN be done, but u have to have a concious fail safe

which tbh isnt hard to do, people just often dont consider it

e.g., at a certain point u just say "cos magic"

[tall forge]

Thats the inherent self destructiveness

[atomic kayak]

5e has already has official things that are radiation anyway. And they are necrotic and radiant primarily

[tepid fiber]

I just say magic is pure energy energy so pure it breaks physics

[knotty vine]

so i was right

[tepid fiber]

a step above thermal energy

[silk hare]

I mean that wont hold up with people that do science stuff imo but sure

[rotund shell]

also I want it known that nukes would probably be doing radiant damage

and then the fallout would do necrotic

[knotty vine]

i already said that

[silk hare]

depends, imo fire damage primarily, IF you want the whole radiation part, then sure, radiant could work

[rotund shell]

oh did you? I missed it in my perusal of the convo then

[silk hare]

but the explosion itself is a bunch of heat

[atomic kayak]

Thats one of the things that annoys me with bombs in dnd. Them doing fire damage.

Almost all bombs, nukes included, should do partial bludgeoning

[rotund shell]

what spell is it...

[knotty vine]

not a spell just bombs

[rotund shell]

there's a spell that's basically a nuclear device

[atomic kayak]

Nukes should do bludgeoning and fire primarily, maybe with some radiant

[knotty vine]

your telling me that a tarrqasue could survive a nuclear bomb with meh amounts of damage

[atomic kayak]

Sure

[silk hare]

sure, cos magic

[knotty vine]

the tarrqasue itself isnt magic

[rotund shell]

Sickening Radiance, that's the spell

[knotty vine]

its just a giant dinosaur

[rotund shell]

Dim, greenish light spreads within a 30-foot-radius sphere centered on a point you choose within range. The light spreads around corners, and it lasts until the spell ends.

When a creature moves into the spell's area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, that creature must succeed on a Constitution saving throw or take 4d10 radiant damage, suffer one level of exhaustion, and emit a dim, greenish light in a 5-foot radius. This light makes it impossible for the creature to benefit from being invisible. The light and any levels of exhaustion caused by this spell go away when the spell ends.

dim "greenish" light sounds like cartoon radiation to me.

[silk hare]

so big that physically it wont really make sense + theres some magic elements tied into its origins and continued existance directly

[knotty vine]

The Tarrasque is not inherently "magical" in its nature

[echo meteor]

i mean.. it would be "godzilla" at that point

with atomic breath

[severe rampart]

I mean, it does sort of fit a Kaiju

[silk hare]

I mean it does exist within the confines of a magical system, has resistances that without that dont necessarily make sense etc so like

[rotund shell]

the tarrasque is only 50 feet tall and 70 feet long. That's not inconcievable given we have Titanosaurs that are that size. the only "unbelievable" part is that it's bipedal at all

[knotty vine]

yeah

[severe rampart]

really? from the art I would've thunk it was like hundreds of feet tall

[knotty vine]

its just a really big dinosaur at the end of the day like i said the only "magic" party is it carapace and its resistance

[atomic kayak]

Well no, the Tarrasque is at the very least, magical in nature adjacent. Its a Titan

[echo meteor]

why does everyone refer to a tarrasque when it comes to the most "strongest" monster for tpk

[knotty vine]

he tarrasque (pronounced: /tɑːˈræsk/ tah-RÆSK[7][8]) was the most terrible creature known to inhabit the Prime Material Plane. The beast was a full 50 feet (15 meters) tall and 70 feet (21 meters) long[9] quadruped with a long tail, reflective carapace, and two large horns on its head.[10] Supposedly, there was only one tarrasque, which slumbered within the world's core.[10] No one could predict when it would next awake.[9]

[atomic kayak]

Its magical in nature in the same sort of way that a dragon is

[echo meteor]

is it the most strongest monster

[silk hare]

no

[rotund shell]

The main thing about the Tarrasque is that it's a generally unstoppable force of nature. It doesn't care about you or what you do to stop it. it's just gonna go on its way and eat whatever it wants

[knotty vine]

it isnt tho

[atomic kayak]

It is

[knotty vine]

how

[rotund shell]

you think dragons are flying and breathing the elements naturally?

[atomic kayak]

Magical in nature doesnt necessarily mean mechanically magical

[silk hare]

alright, a dragon isnt magical then too?

[rotund shell]

narratively magic isn't the same as mechanically magical

[tall forge]

A tarrasque is less a real monster in its disaster, but more of a plot device

[silk hare]

I mean depends on campaign lvl

[knotty vine]

yeah but it still doesnt say anywhere that the giant monster is narratively magical either

[rotund shell]

The 5e Tarrasque is underwhelming but it is one of the strongest monsters in terms of Combat Rating.

[uncut zenith]

And even so, it’s still kind of mechanically magical with its spell deflecting carapace

[rotund shell]

Reflective Carapace?

[silk hare]

it has like most resistances under the sun

which is weird if it isnt magical, bc normal animals dont have that

[knotty vine]

it has like 3

in the new book at least

[rotund shell]

the 5e tarrasque is underwhelming, but yes, the Tarrasque is one of the strongest monsters short of an avatar of a god

it used to be more dangerous in previous editions, to the point it can only be "killed" with a Wish

[knotty vine]

and even that had a chance to fail and kill the caster

[silk hare]

sry should have specified, dont mean the 5e statblock, but "the tarrasque"

[echo meteor]

why doesnt tarrasque have a breath weapon though?

[uncut zenith]

The 2024 tarrasque is better suited for its CR than the 2014 one

[silk hare]

why would it need one?

[rotund shell]

traditionally, it never had one.

[knotty vine]

breathe weapons are mainly for dragons?

[uncut zenith]

The new one has a Thunderous Bellow now

[silk hare]

• u can always give it one if u really want to kill your players

[echo meteor]

cause you can just take pot shots at it from distance

[rotund shell]

Oh, it does have a thunderous roar now? that's nice.

[knotty vine]

Thunderous Bellow (Recharge 5–6). Constitution Saving Throw: DC 27, each creature and each object that isn’t being worn or carried in a 150-foot Cone. Failure: 78 (12d12) Thunder damage, and the target has the Deafened and Frightened conditions until the end of its next turn. Success: Half damage only.

[rotund shell]

they did improve the Tarrasque in 2024 then. credit where it's due

[silk hare]

I mean u can try?

[echo meteor]

it only has 40 ft movement

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, so it gives them a ranged option now

[rotund shell]

that's where a little GM fiat comes in. "The Tarrasque, mildly inconvenienced by these arrows, picks up a chunk of the ground and throws it at you."

[tall forge]

Pot shots with what?

[echo meteor]

magic arrows

[knotty vine]

its resistant to bps now

and its immune to fire and posion

[rotund shell]

Main point is, the Tarrasque also probably shouldn't give a hoot what's around it except if it's worth eating.

[tall forge]

It runs away, or toward you

[echo meteor]

it cant even fly

[rotund shell]

it's a natural disaster that you should be doing damage control, not actively fighting

[knotty vine]

those still do half damage

[silk hare]

iirc theres also an entire planet full of tarrasques, but only 1 can exist at the same time in the material plane or sth

[echo meteor]

damage is still damage, and it has no way to recover.. it cant even fly

[tall forge]

Doesnt really have to, it barrels through most things

[atomic kayak]

I love the "level 1 aarakocra can beat the tarrasque with a magical bow/infinite ammo"

Sure. And then the tarrasque proceeds to destroy a city or three in the meantime

[rotund shell]

It's a shame that the Tarrasque still doesn't have the old Earthbound Aura

[silk hare]

okay, dm doesnt count that damage then

[knotty vine]

it has a 150ft cone to hit you with

[rotund shell]

that solves the flying problem nicely...

[echo meteor]

sure, but an army of aarakocra could easily defeat it

[silk hare]

you are forgetting this is a collaborative storytelling game, a fantasy that is at the dms discretion too

[tall forge]

And once it gets its health lowered…. It just disappears using its “i disappear somehow” tarrasque feature

[knotty vine]

i still stand on the grounds that the "strongest 5e stat block is sul ketish or Szass"

szass being way stronger duh

[tall forge]

By that logic in 2014, 200 lvl 3 wizards beat vecna

[echo meteor]

it has that feature? im looking at the statblock rn

[silk hare]

sure u can theoretically make a nuke, if your dm allows for e.g. uranium to exist in the confines of the world, u still might not be able to use it bc it doesnt work

[rotund shell]

Sul is basically a godly avatar to be fair.

[knotty vine]

she not a god at all

[stiff swift]

Hello everyone

[tall forge]

My point is mechanics wise anything can be cheesed just as easily. Narratively speaking, any cheese can go wrong

[rotund shell]

I said basically, not literally

[atomic kayak]

Sul is effectively a demon lord/archdevil, which is the closest you will get to seeing a godly avatar in eberron

[knotty vine]

shes not even an avatar either shes an overlord

[empty thicket]

Welp, one call it Cheese. Others having an elaborated plan

[knotty vine]

Some thirty overlords are bound in Khyber. Two are described here: Rak Tulkhesh and Sul Khatesh, both of whom remain imprisoned and can’t take physical form. The stat blocks provided here reflect the powers they would wield if they were ever unleashed upon the world.

[rotund shell]

sigh Yes, I know. Eberron is my main setting.

[echo meteor]

I think its just a strategy, knowing the strength/weaknesses of a monster

[rotund shell]

the point is, for the purposes of "strongest monster in 5e", she is basically and functionally a godly avatar in terms of strength

[tall forge]

And just like cheese, it can go bad real easily

[knotty vine]

im still wondering why Szass is cr 30 and vecna is only cr 26

[echo meteor]

you look at a creature's capabilities, what its strong or weak against, what it cant and cant do... and act in a way that counters it

[empty thicket]

Mmmmm.... cheeeeeese, some brie cheese would be nice.
But yeah, this milk can spoil fast and ruin everything, its part of its beauty. Its a Bet

[silk hare]

sure, but how would u do that without metagaming?

[tall forge]

Ok but shooting a giant lizard from 120 ft away for 10 minutes in game time and 3 hours irl time? thats really really uncool

[atomic kayak]

The former isnt an official block and the latter is an explicitly weaker form

[fair plinth]

Ive read somewhere about towns that have glaciers pass by their shores every year or so, i would like to add a town like that to a map if i had one going

[empty thicket]

"We are gonna fly over the tarrasque and throw arrows to it until it die"
Tarraske grab debris and shoot it in the sky or throw trees
" Oh boy"

[echo meteor]

sure...? but it cant do much against it, unless it runs into a cave undergroun d

[knotty vine]

it was printed by wizard

[tall forge]

Also this

[echo meteor]

but im not sure any cave system can fit a tarrasque

[atomic kayak]

AL only blocks arent like stuff printed in books

[uncut zenith]

Doesn’t make it official

[rotund shell]

The Underdark certainly can in quite a few areas.

[echo meteor]

tarrasque can throw stuff?

[atomic kayak]

There are many that can fit it

[tall forge]

Why couldnt they

[fair plinth]

Maybe they have festivals when a glacier does pass, to celebrate the yearly tradition and to honor the ice gods of peace for cooling down the flames of war across the world
I miss worldbuilding

[silk hare]

it can do whatever the dm wants it to do

[rotund shell]

with GM fiat. As I said earlier. "The Tarrasque, mildly inconvenienced by these arrows, picks up a chunk of ground and throws it at you."

[silk hare]

thats the whole point of a ttrpg, theres a lot of creativity involved

[echo meteor]

how much damage would it do?

[rotund shell]

the GM is not constrained to what the statblock says exclusively.

[knotty vine]

i guess the strongest spell caster in dnd is Sul ketish

[atomic kayak]

I prefer it to pick up the parts of the city wall it just plowed through as you failed to meaningfully stop it

[tall forge]

A lot

[olive stag]

Unless its Hard to be a God or Star Ocean.

[echo meteor]

i feel like the tarrasque isnt proficient in boulders..

[rotund shell]

given it's a giant clump of earth, I'd personally go with 5d8 in a 20 foot radius as a starting point, using my "clump of the ground" example.

[silk hare]

ok and?

[echo meteor]

it would throw a single boulder a turn. which isnt much damage

[tall forge]

Yeah its a saving throw imo

[silk hare]

well that one breaks apart into 20 after it was thrown

[knotty vine]

it has a +10 by default to hit

[tall forge]

And why would it only throw one?

[echo meteor]

you can multi-attack throwing a boulder?

[severe rampart]

Just got emojis of my DnD character commissioned, I think I'm way too deep into the rabbit hole

[tall forge]

My big monster can

[silk hare]

tbh I think the pickle is ragebaiting again, no need to further engage

[atomic kayak]

Depends on what it throws imo

Could be a chunk of earth that bursts in a large area and does a couple d8s. Could be a single chunk of rock or something that does a couple d10s. Decisions decisions

[eager marsh]

Welcome to art addiction buddy

[atomic kayak]

All of them oneshotting a level 1 character regardless

[severe rampart]

Does it ever go away

[uncut zenith]

It’s intended to be a full-on kaiju fight, so it doesn’t make sense to me that a tarrasque wouldn’t pick up a boulder, or like Swampellow said some debris from the destruction they just caused and chuck it at something that’s annoying it from a distance

[eager marsh]

It went away when I was unemployed for a few Months because I’m responsible with my leisure funds. Came back in full force after I got a good job again sorry buddy.

[tall forge]

Besides, a single dude shooting a tarrasque at max range vs thr tarrasque throwing boulders

You can sorta guess whose dying first

[eager marsh]

Sincerely, someone that’s spent the last 3-4 years on art of their OC

[olive stag]

By the way, here's another interesting backstory I made. What if...an eldritch entity came to Faerûn...and made everyone friendly towards each other?
It was so funny a concept I had to make it. Let's say once they cajoled everyone even the Liches became good chums with the paladins I decided for them to become the final boss before leaving the world. It was...wild.

[echo meteor]

what would you say a big rock being thrown is similar to for damage?

is there a spell that hurls a big rock at enemies

[knotty vine]

im still wondering what happen if a level 18 character deicded to become a lichen lich are they just a lich now or

[atomic kayak]

From a tarrasque? Somewhere between a bookshelf and a flying fortress falling on you

[humble cairn]

Catapult can do exactly that. Though if you want it to be a heavy rock you need to upcast it.

[knotty vine]

id just say its a ranged tail or claw attack

[echo meteor]

whats the damage profile of a catapult?

[atomic kayak]

Incidentally, so can a catapult

[tall forge]

4d12+10 would hurt bad yeah

[olive stag]

Ngl, having human wizards and mind flayers discuss magic theory is pretty cursed.

[knotty vine]

the tail makes way more sense to me tho
Tail. Melee Attack Roll: +19, reach 30 ft. Hit: 23 (3d8 + 10) Bludgeoning damage. If the target is a Huge or smaller creature, it has the Prone condition.

[eager marsh]

Lichdom is not a player facing option at all. There are no longer rules to perform the change. There was an AL module reward where you can accept lichdom. It forcibly retires your character because you can’t play them anymore

[humble cairn]

I don't remember, but there are siege weapon rules somewhere.

[atomic kayak]

A tarrasque sized and tossed chunk of debris would probably do... at least 6d10 I think.

[eager marsh]

My mind flayer discusses magic theory with the nerdy cleric of my Sunday party every week it’s great

[knotty vine]

again it could just be a ranged tail or claw attack

[atomic kayak]

It could be sure

But that damage is also predicated on a multi attack, so each hit is lower

[humble cairn]

Borrow the rock throw features from some giants?

[tall forge]

At minimum id say 3d10+10 for siege weaponry

[knotty vine]

or that

[severe rampart]

Oh my god

[echo meteor]

oh.. found it..
https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17024-stone-giant?srsltid=AfmBOor8EBfCygSrEGpwWIXtacJ5bt7R-wCUndUtc7Bvje4sHCRCN5M8

[tall forge]

So your bow guy/guys are shooting a tarrasque for 10 minutes while the tarrasque throws entire city buildings at you, destroying the city and you/your army at the same time

[empty thicket]

and i told an easy one, there is many options and i wont be testing A DM patience with such stuff.

[knotty vine]

yeah but you add the tarrasque's strength instead of the giants

[eager marsh]

Look. Commissioning artists is fun and getting art is nice. Anyways good luck getting more art soon you’ll have whole image galleries and emotes like me.

[tall forge]

And thats just a rock…. So, yeah 6d10 is pretty reasonable

[knotty vine]

its still crazy to me that the hammer of thunder bolts was the worst legendary item of 2014

[severe rampart]

Ryu, I started commissioning artists one month ago and now I have like 25 artworks

but my character is ADORABLE

[echo meteor]

yes, the tarrasque throwing a rock would be similar to giant's rock

[knotty vine]

the tarraque is bigger and has a higher strength score

[tall forge]

Giants are pretty tiny compared to tarrasques

[atomic kayak]

A tarrasque is notably larger than even the largest giant

Largest giants are in the 25ft tall range

[eager marsh]

You are either finding very underpriced artists or have an even larger leisure budget than I do. Or you are counting emotes which are fairly cheap by comparison to full size art

[severe rampart]

probably regional pricing? 1 dollar here is = 60 of our currency

[tall forge]

A tarrasque is around 50 ft tall and 75 fr long

[knotty vine]

i mean theres also the Scions

from Bigbys's!

[atomic kayak]

But yea for a single toss boulder/debris from a tarrasque I would probably do 6d10+Str for damage

[eager marsh]

Ok but like…if a gallon of milk is 3 dollars is a gallon of milk there 180 of your currency? Or is buying power not equalized ?

[severe rampart]

that sounds... cheaper than here actually

[atomic kayak]

(I would also make it a legendary action option)

[echo meteor]

i guess it would be closer to this attack
https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/17026-storm-giant?srsltid=AfmBOor2nRYl41Y6Yw0ZnfUMY8ohaLCjtKwUFIf9FblOfNo0Zf3m0nhb
4d12

[eager marsh]

Depends where you go. Could be 4 dollars vs 240 of your currency too

[silk hare]

wait milk is 3 dollars for you guys?

[knotty vine]

the Scion of Stronmaus being the stronger almost being godlike

[olive stag]

That's why I love this community.

[echo meteor]

no proficiency.. so it would simply be +10 to hit

and it would deal 4d12+10 damage

[eager marsh]

I was just making a vague comparison I think milk is 4-5 dollars a gallon I forget I just buy my groceries

[silk hare]

if thats what YOU want, sure

but there is no definitive answer

[knotty vine]

Among the mightiest creatures of all giantkind, the scion stands 80 feet tall.

[silk hare]

my condolences

[empty thicket]

1.25$ x L, my country make a lot so its cheap for me

[tall forge]

Thats whats great about dnd, the dm can make stuff up

[silk hare]

exactly

[knotty vine]

i should make a fighting arena dnd thing

[eager marsh]

I looked it up it is actually just 3 dollars I don’t normally look cuz all my groceries are relatively cheap for my needs

[silk hare]

fair enough 👍

[knotty vine]

screw it im backing up my dm mantel again

[eager marsh]

Anyways buying art of your D&D character is always fun because you can support a cool artist and then bait your party into also doing it

[tall forge]

Which, going back to the tarrasque is underwhelming argument, yes it is in stats

But it’s partially the dms responsibility to make a monster feel immense and dangerous

[eager marsh]

And then you can start getting party comms

[tall forge]

You can make your cheese strat, or your elaborate plan

But somethings gonna go wrong, because something always goes wrong

[burnt valley]

Myowwa, which module is it?

[knotty vine]

i love the way dnd gassses up dnd monsters
Tall enough to look a titan in the eye and strong enough to wrestle a dragon, jotun giants are the lords of giantkind and the immortal enemies of the god

[empty thicket]

tho, if you know where to dig, you can find really good artist at a low price. For those that cant pay too much

[eager marsh]

No clue I just recall hearing about it. But you basically make it your last module

[tall forge]

Technically, lichdom is accessible to players but its left incredibly vague bc its meant to be an endpoint of a campaign

[empty thicket]

Happened to a friend, he made his whole character art from an artist for less of 20 bucks and it had a quality of 60$

[eager marsh]

Yea but I’m always abusing artists with money when I see them underpricing. I have actually bullied at least 2-3 artists into raising their prices because I give big tips

[tall forge]

How do you become a lich? Something something “vague ritual”

Something something “dark cost”

[eager marsh]

Also eating souls

[olive stag]

What does Wizardry, D&D, Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy have in common?

[tall forge]

Archlich

[uncut zenith]

The ritual itself is up to the DM, but we do know that whatever it is it involves doing some pretty heinous things

[empty thicket]

Indeed, tips are nice and more if the artist is good and "underpriced"

[tall forge]

Not even a requirement to eat souls

[fast latch]

Oh sick, I have two Mind Flayer characters

One is a doctor Rogue who only eats the brains of dead patients that couldn’t be saved, the other is a Barbarian/Nature Cleric multiclass whose goal is to cook the most delicious brain possible

[silk hare]

magic

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, liches eat souls after they achieve lichdom

[echo meteor]

kind of sucks Tarrasque cant just recover from damage

[tall forge]

Have em short rest

[olive stag]

Yep, not to mention existing which became awesome franchises in the long run for us RPG nerds.

[eager marsh]

Almost nobody ever does that one. It’s really hard to even prove you’re good aligned enough to do it

[tall forge]

They got 33d20 hit die

And +10 con bff

[eager marsh]

My mind flayer (custom lineage) is a divination wizard who got magic from his host brain being a wizard but that knowledge is incomplete and he was kicked out and abused for talking about magic too much when mind flayer society hates that stuff. So his arcane knowledge isn’t really coherently complete. The cleric taught him about Circle Casting when he needed a longer Alter Self in the druegar city now he’s excited to experiment more

[tall forge]

Yeah but its an option if you dont wanna do the whole “soul eating” bit

[rough basalt]

Well most people become Liches so they can.
They usually use power or immortality as an excuse

When really they just wanna eat some juicy souls /j

[tall forge]

Yummy yummy in my tummy

My soul tummy, specifically

[fast latch]

That’s such a sick backstory damn

[olive stag]

Being a Lich is Bishin'.

[eager marsh]

Making an NPC lich that seasons the souls

[fast latch]

HAH

How would that be possible?

[rough basalt]

Suffering

[echo meteor]

mindflayer "society" is just an elder brain that dominiates the minds of all the mindflayers in it

i dont think theres an "individual will"

[rough basalt]

There is, but the Elder Brain overwrites it

[eager marsh]

Got ejected by the colony as they all used focused psionic to basically lobotomize his own psionic so he barely has telekinetic and telepathic feats now. It’s how I made him level 1 and they kicked him out to be ‘dealt with by the lesser races’

[uncut zenith]

Some mind flayers have been known for going rogue and breaking free from the elder brain’s influence

But it’s relatively rare for that to happen

[echo meteor]

sure, but it woudlnt be a "society" as much as just an exception

[eager marsh]

There is and isn’t. The elder brain directly mind controls the colony. Each individual has their own will behind that and it’s where you get rogue mind flayers like the guy from Baldur’s Gate 3, Omellum

[uncut zenith]

True

[echo meteor]

unless they have a society of "rogue" minde flayers

[eager marsh]

Arcane Magic famously interferes with the mind control as well

[umbral girder]

Technically a society of Rogue Mind Flayers is an Alhoon colony

[echo meteor]

so your talking about "rogue" mindflayer society

[umbral girder]

Which is also a freaky hive Mind of a sort

[eager marsh]

They do have a culture and society the elder brain doesn’t hard mind control every ilkuthid’s every action so I’m not.

[eager marsh]

That’s a lie too they’re a si fake consciousness that eats every illithid brain after they pass

The ilkithids are told they join a hive mind but the consciousness goes away as the elder brain gets all their memories and knowledge

[umbral girder]

Shoutout to Mind Flayers in the Underdark making their own gambling rings and Spa treatments. This was in the Legend of Drizzt novels

[fast latch]

Actually I screwed up, I have three Mind Flayer characters

[olive stag]

My one NPC character idea did break that. Basically my pessimistic bro was so luckily unlucky he got tadpole'd and fell down, lost consciousness and became an elder brain for the rogue illithids to worship. All cuz two deities of luck and misfortune screwed his life into that of an accidental hero. Unlucky awake, blessed with luck (and heavy doses of plot armour) unconscious.

[tall forge]

Most ilithids are just loyal to the elder brain bc its just… easier

[fast latch]

The third one is an Illusionist Wizard monster hunter

[tall forge]

They share a mental will but they wouldnt really disobey it anyways, its illogical

[umbral girder]

Turning Drizzt into a brain masseuse is amusing.

[eager marsh]

Then he scrambled it

[umbral girder]

He didn’t actually.

A super zombie and a space panther did that.

[echo meteor]

im not sure they have enough "autonomy" to "shun" a mindflayer that is "too weird" and kick them out

[eager marsh]

You underestimate the autonomy of mind flayer as a person they have a society for a reason

They aren’t all just blank drones for the elder brain you know

[umbral girder]

Yeah Mind Flayer colonies do have some free will in their day to day lives

[olive stag]

Okay now I imagine Beckett the Idiot in a room with intellect devourers and the mass confusion is real. "Why are those brains walking? I don't get it."
Int is -4 btw.

[fast latch]

At that point of stupidity you can’t even talk

[eager marsh]

Also it’s not being too weird illithid societies genuinely despise arcane and divine magic as ‘lesser’ to their psionic but also hate it for being a key part of the Gith rebellion working

[tall forge]

Its also not efficient to have them be blank drones

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, that’s what their thralls are for

[umbral girder]

Mechanically they are the most likely to die to them.
Lore wise they are most likely to survive them.

[tall forge]

Besides, mind flayers have their own wants/hobbies

[eager marsh]

Illithids actually pact bond with their thralls too and get emotionally distressed when they lose one

[umbral girder]

Yeah Mind Flayers have tons of thralls in their colonies

[tall forge]

Some even like their thralls and feel sad

[olive stag]

He does talk..it's just he talks like a child.

[umbral girder]

They actually got auctions on thralls too

The Elder Brain gets first pickings usually but after that the Mind Flayers get to try for the market.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, if mind flayers really had no individual will, we wouldn’t see things like ulitharid, who want to become an elder brain themselves

[echo meteor]

how well you talk is "charisma".. how you talk is "intelligence" someone who has high intellect but low charisma would speak like a child

[umbral girder]

They are alien but oddly human.

Makes sense since Mind Flayers are usually former humanoids.

[olive stag]

Pitchfork in hand, stupidity in his mind. Our unlikely hero, Beckett.

[tall forge]

Or speak socially awkwardly

Theres many interpretations

[echo meteor]

yep, just cause you are smart af, doesnt mean you can communicate how smart you are to others.

[eager marsh]

Those DO become elder brains and are a 1/100 mutation

[tall forge]

Intelligence is also something that can be interpreted

[formal oracle]

Think... Sheldon

[eager marsh]

Only those ones can become elder brains after they die

[olive stag]

I think Charisma is pretty low. Aside from his adoptive father, the priestly cleric, not even the animals like Beckett...unless they're rabbits.

Cuz of some weird feelings which confuse him more.

[uncut zenith]

Intelligence in D&D mostly revolves around a character’s ability to recall information

[echo meteor]

also, reason.. their ability to communicate is "charisma"

unless, its actual knowledge of the language itself

[tall forge]

Ehhh “reasoning” is subjective

Either way, i dont put stock into stats=personality for players

You got an awesome plan but only 6 int? Go for it anyways

[fast latch]

Why rabbits specifically?

[olive stag]

To be fair, Beckett's intelligence was -2 as a toddler due to his accidental drop caused by a Tiefling killing his mom. I think his Int grew to the current day but not by much. I'd say...4 at best.

[echo meteor]

Yes, alot of highly charismatic figures can achieve great number of followers with their low intelligence

[tall forge]

I dont even mean that

[echo meteor]

but its true

[tall forge]

A player can have 5 int and 5 charisma, but ill let them do whatever they feel is in character

They can make a rousing speech around their genius idea

Ill even lower the dc if its played well

[silk hare]

Id really like some insight into how certain peoples minds work, or if its just a language barrier

[tall forge]

And if it just makes sense, sometimes wont have a roll at all

[echo meteor]

had a dm role play a zombie that taunts and witty remarks to players in combat...
so i cast "tasha's hideous laughter" only to find out that the "zombie" that we were fighting only had 3 intelligence 😭

[crystal nest]

Charisma used to be Will, for context

[tall forge]

As proven by the internet
You dont need to be smart to roast people

[olive stag]

Well, rabbits do trust him and there's a more...ahem nsfw reason that's an Of Mice and Men reference minus the death hugging. Plot twist: One of the rabbits (his favourite trusted one) is a wild shape Tiefling and the reason Beckett felt weird was because of her infernal aura. Luckily she's actually chill.

[echo meteor]

qustion of charisma is different though

[tall forge]

As proven by the internet….

[silk hare]

you dont need to be charismatic to let people believe in your cause either

[echo meteor]

idk, if you can convince people you are probably somewhat charismatic

[tall forge]

You also gotta remember appearance is part of charisma in a dnd game

[silk hare]

no, If I tell you its dumb to put your hand on a hot stove, and do so while insulting you etc

you still wouldnt put your hand on the stove no?

[olive stag]

To be fair, Beckett does look muscular and kinda handsome for a dunce.

[tall forge]

You can be the most well spoken, persuasive guy around

If you look like freddy kruegar your charisma isnt gonna exactly be high here

[silk hare]

I convinced you without being a bit charismatic, bc what I am saying is a fact

or at least makes sense

[echo meteor]

depends on how you are saying it tbh.
ever had someone tell you something, and you coudlnt think of a retort until several hours later? being able to come up with witty reply quickly is part of charisma i think

[tall forge]

Its all interpretation

[silk hare]

and that has no tie to what was being discussed?

nowhere did we talk about witty replies

[tall forge]

Theres no exact rules about what charisma does, its a vibes thing

[echo meteor]

it has description of charisma

[silk hare]

the only things that really have clear rules are mechanical things, as RP is often up to the dm, theres no entirely clear rules there

[tall forge]

Yeah, and that description isnt hard facts

[olive stag]

1 sec Im gonna bring out Beckett's stats.

[silk hare]

at best theres suggestions

[echo meteor]

no, what the book says in the description IS hard facts.. interpretation isnt

[tall forge]

Literally it says its “strength of personality”

[echo meteor]

sure, and you need to interpret it

[tall forge]

Thats not measurable in real life dude

[silk hare]

Id really like a day in your head, or even a couple minutes, bc how can u talk about sth and just disregard the essence of what you are talking about?

[tall forge]

Then its not a hard fact… its a vague description

Its a hard fact that its written there

[echo meteor]

no? its a fact, it defines the thing

[silk hare]

it doesnt, a defininition, by definition, is definitive, which this part isnt

[echo meteor]

also Charisma is "Confidence, poise, and charm". you need to interpret what that means

[tall forge]

And if a definition has no hard meaning…. Its still not a fact

Its vibes based

[sick comet]

I don't have anyone to play with so i've been arguing with an LLM as if they're a DM as to what is the best way to legally make money in the Forgotten Realms cities. So far options are obviously a sellsword for monsters but you will likely die in a few weeks. Second place is a booring life of learning difficult spells at the temple and then selling your services, 24/7, JUST THE GRIND.

I want a dnd story based on capitalistic growth of a city as well as the drama at the top.

[tall forge]

And thats kinda the point of dnd

[silk hare]

I feel like we are getting into ragebait territory again

[echo meteor]

the "fact" is that it is defined a certain way.. the point is that you need to interpret it

[tall forge]

Read previous messages

There are no hard rules of what charisma does, which is what i originally said. If you have to interpret something, its not a hard rule

[silk hare]

also for something to be truly defined you need guidelines for interpretation too

I cant just define a temperature as e.g. "somewhat hot" and say, look theres a definition

[tall forge]

Anyways, planning my next campaign now

[silk hare]

oh what about

[tall forge]

I think im gonna do a sci-fi fantasy, where the royal capital hoards all the scifi

[olive stag]

Basically Beckett has 6 Wisdom and 7 Charisma.

[silk hare]

mhhh so everything super medieval and tyranny or sth, king uses sci fi tech to keep commoners in check?

[tall forge]

Yep. Angels are androids type beat

[olive stag]

Sounds cool.

[severe rampart]

I'm setting up my VTT right now

[tall forge]

Lmao, wont be for a solid half a year, still got my current campaign to run

Im the type that takes forever to set up a campaign

[olive stag]

The videogame Hard to Be A God is like that. It's all medieval fun and games until the spaceships appear.

Apparently 2 Russian brothers wrote the original book.

[tall forge]

The cheat code being to start planning in the middle of a current one

[glossy otter]

So, hows it going?

[olive stag]

Just finished work and heading home on a bus. It's sweltering outside.

[ripe nymph]

sup

so im trying to make a character sheet and i need some help

[glossy otter]

#dnd-newcomers

[ripe nymph]

k

[lyric viper]

Are you new to making characters or is this more wanting indepth advice on a character idea?

[ripe nymph]

so nones gonna respond or

[tall forge]

Dnd newcomers

[ripe nymph]

nvmso im a lil bit new to dnd so im missing on how to make a character

[serene jolt]

#dnd-newcomers

[olive stag]

Im a tabletop noob myself so can't help you.

[ripe nymph]

i just realized its on slow mode

[lyric viper]

Folk, channel suggestions are helpful, but make sure you know what the person actually needs first and perhaps be a bt more helpful than just saying the channel name

It can come across as a bit rude and dismissive to just be told (channel name) in response to a query.

That said.... #dnd-newcomers is definitely the right channel then!
They can help out with getting started and beginner questions on characters.

[olive stag]

Apparently that happens a lot if I take into account all the servers I tend to visit.

[fierce anvil]

Is there a channel for looking for groups to make a campaign with?

[lyric viper]

#learn-to-play can also help out when getting started.

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[hollow turret]

I'm watching a rip of the the Dragonstrike VHS, the one that came with TSR's boardgame and wondering how feasible it is to remake it for 5e

[lyric viper]

Not too hard in someways. Mostly keeping the ideas rather than trying to make any of the mechanics work.

[tall forge]

Its all about translation and understanding what works and what doesnt for media genre

[olive stag]

Hmm...BG3 aside, Im thinking that I should replay Chronicles of Mystara and Dragon's Crown for old time's sake. I generally main the elf.

[hollow turret]

Well, I guess I'm using the video more as an idea than the Sunstone scenerio it loosely connects to

[olive stag]

As for the tabletop aspect, I'll check the link when the time is right.

[lyric viper]

AD&D style stories aren't too hard to translate to 5e, it's more remembering certain classes, species and concepts didn't exist as much back then so you might want to add those back in (Like make a magic-user into a warlock/wizard/sorc/bard instead of just 'wizard', sprinkle some dragonborn and such in)

[olive stag]

Dunno what else to talk about but....dunno if Im misremembering but is it true Uwe Boll made an awful D&D movie?

[fair plinth]

Is it that old one

[olive stag]

I know it's definitely not Honor Among Thieves so...the 2006 2007 one?

[fair plinth]

I only know of honor thieves and some older one that i forgot the name of

[olive stag]

Hold on...I gotta search this one up.

[hollow turret]

Seems the dragonstrike tape does have a plot hole

[olive stag]

Nevermind...its Dungeon Siege apparently that was awful and made by Uwe Boll.

[hollow turret]

Uwe Boll sucks

[olive stag]

He does. He also hates videogames if the Postal movie is to be believed.

That makes a lot of sense.

But...I did find the awful D&D movie trilogy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DungeonsAndDragons/comments/1p9m1bs/have_you_seen_the_three_bad_dnd_movies/

[lyric viper]

I will say that #dnd-media needs more love >.> (Can talk about all the D&D movies and musicals in there. There's like 6 I think I can name off the top of my head)

[olive stag]

Ah, ok.

[hollow turret]

Loved the cartoon

[lyric viper]

Not to kill the convo, just because I really want that channel to get more love

And this is the perfect convo for it

[hollow turret]

Still waiting for Venger stats, WotC. You put him on the DMG

[olive stag]

I also loved the 80s cartoon characters appearing in D&D - HAT.

Awesome cameo.

Welp, I'll have lunch now. Farewell for now!

[jovial shadow]

I guess they are bad now, but I enjoyed them when they first came out.

[sonic quiver]

I am the manager 😛

and you didn’t scare me off; it was literally 4:30am when you pinged me.

But yes; avoid pinging staff and mods unless it’s an emergency. If you have questions, that’s what #moderator-support is for.

Happy Friday; carry on

[swift wren]

Can you keep the manor thing to one channel, thx mate

[severe rampart]

Ah yeah no worries, I just did that out of habit

[knotty vine]

i am the law

[tall forge]

I break the law

Checkmate

[tender pike]

Oh

What did I miss

[hard thistle]

Now I'm imagining a Warlock who's patron is Nobody Important, the Great Old One. It would cause so much confusion.

[marble lion]

Id have warlocks of that patron forget who their patron is frequently

[hard thistle]

"Oh, you're a warlock! Cool! Who's your patron?"

W: "Nobody Important." 😎

". . ."

W: "Listen, man, not even I know at this point."

[gaunt spindle]

"Great Old One"

Are them from H.P. Lovecraft brother?

[atomic kayak]

Some are similar to lovecraftian entities yes

[hard thistle]

No, the Great Old One patron. Grants Psionic abilities, upgrades your familiar...

Now that I'm thinking about it, it might be lovecraftian.

[jovial shadow]

Possibly influenced, as are the Mind Flayers, but because AD&D were sued before for using Lovecratian monsters, they won't make any direct references. Unless the legal terms changed after WoTC took over.

[molten karma]

Honestly.. DJTR can be turned into an amazing dnd session..

[undone rain]

So what gods/deitys are considered good. Good as in good guys

[molten karma]

Aka dont join team red for the full name

[tall forge]

“Great old one” is a term built upon the cthulu mythos

However that mythos has grown way past mr “scared of air conditioning”

[feral fulcrum]

The majority of them. And depends on what Setting you're talking about.

[tall forge]

Also depends on what you consider “good”

The alignment? Most of em

Actual decent individuals?

[undone rain]

Chaotic good, neutral good and lawful good

[feral fulcrum]

Pelor the Lightbulb shant be disparaged in this household.

[tall forge]

Pelor is fine

[undone rain]

Ik ilmaters one of em. The lads literally the god of endurance and suffering

Selune, Lathander, Helm, Tyr are good aligned as well

[lavish flame]

In the Forgotten Realms, that might be Bahamut (Dragon God of Justice and Good, LG), or Lathander (God of Dawn, Renewal, and Rebirth, NG) or Mystra (God of Magic, NG)

There's like a billion more, those are just some examples

[undone rain]

Mystras good aligned?

Most of my experience from her is in bg3 so youll have to forgive the questioning

[lavish flame]

yeah, she's a Neutral Good goddess

[tall forge]

Neutral good

Again, gods are inherently kinda jerks

[lavish flame]

she lives in Elysium, the Neutral Good plane

[karmic spade]

Man

I really need to find a wild West campaign

I very much would like to make a buster Scruggs type character

[tall forge]

Gotta also remember most religions Apparantly exist in FR

[karmic spade]

Depending if you're talking about Warhammer their fat frog god people

[tall forge]

Still built upon the cthulu mythos inherently

[karmic spade]

God I love the orcs,their best creation fr

Lmao I love how their so stupid it bends reality but their also horrific in every conceivable way

[lavish flame]

the Eberron setting is made for this. I'm currently in an Eberron game playing a wandslinger (just a Wizard). I got to riff on The Lone Ranger and The Hateful Eight for her backstory.

[karmic spade]

That's sick

I'm gonna have to look into this now

Tbh I would to make a hillbilly moonshiner character

Lmao I can see them using moonshine Grenades

[hard thistle]

I'm wanting to use the dragon deities for a campaign I'm running, but I'm not too comfortable with alternate gods, so I plan to make them just really powerful dragons of legend. I'm trying to decide how I want to display these dragons, though. Physical proof of existence might be good, but a bit too much early on, and hearing about them might be a tough heavy handed.

[humble cairn]

Sounds like you're talking about orcs from a different setting. the species whose collective beliefs have reality warping power in D&D are the Kuo Toa.

[karmic spade]

Yeah the Warhammer40k/ fantasy orcs

[humble cairn]

Which would be a very different game and setting than D&D and Faerun.

[karmic spade]

Honestly you could always have old remains or something

[feral fulcrum]

The thing about Mystra is that she's been like several Goddesses in a Trenchcoat over the years. Same name and role, different Person, occasionaly dies and gets replaced. Happens more then you'd think.

[karmic spade]

Like,the skeleton of a dead dragon or ancient scars on the land from their battles

[hard thistle]

😮 Mystra was 3 kobolds in a trenchcoat!? That's the 6th time this month!

[woeful quartz]

Late to this discord but who else had to turn off the new dice and music to stop device slowing to stop?

[undone rain]

Wow that issss smth. That would explain it. Thanks mate

[noble pelican]

Boutta make the edgiest character known to MAN!

[dim wasp]

oh sorry lol

[jolly agate]

Make him a drow

And some edgelord name like Shadow or Black

[tall forge]

Edge-lords can be great for dnd

[jolly agate]

And and like, very op powers, to mess whit your DM

[feral fulcrum]

If you want actual edge, you want to be a Shadar-Kai

[humble cairn]

The edgiest character I've ever run into still has to be Black Ice Shadow.

[jolly agate]

and a very VERY long backstory

Like, where he kills everyone and shi

and ye mostly dat

[humble cairn]

Black Ice Shadow was an Exalted character and was literally named as a pun on Black Eye Shadow.

[feral fulcrum]

I was about to say that sounds like one of the most Mid Exalted names. Then again, who can compete with Princess Magnificent with Lips of Coral and Robes of Black Feathers.

[tall forge]

Nickname- maggie

[humble cairn]

The Bodhisattva Anointed of Dark Waters.

[jolly agate]

Damn

I just noticed that i never gave ma char a name

Ma boy is just "The Cow" 😭

[woven flint]

Hello fellow nerds 🧐

[jolly agate]

Wsp mate

[knotty vine]

I’m gonna stop someone

[tall forge]

Not me

[woven flint]

Wrong, can't stop, won't stop

[jovial shadow]

Not a nerd

[noble pelican]

Murder kill red eyes killer guy that killls

And I like lowkey control reality /j

[jolly agate]

Yeah

[real epoch]

Do you ever play to your own character like customize character?

[jolly agate]

Most of the time ye

In my current session

cuz, im playin as a cow right?.

Highland cow, but the race would be Minotaur whit some cosmetic changes that is the offspring of a cow-headed centaur and a minotaur. who is also a warlock, and has a sister that's just a regular human (The Archfey patron tho)

BUT, I've had two sessions and I just realized I still haven't given my cow a name.

[undone rain]

Whats good

[woven flint]

Just chilling
We encountered Xanathar for the first time in Waterdeep yesterday raiding his base
But we managed to escape unnoticed

It's scary because we're level 6
And though I'm confident we could attempt to fight Xanathar, I dunno if we'd all make it out alive

[strong wave]

How do you play a 24 character in a 2014 game

[jolly agate]

and kinda that's it ye

[bronze wave]

As normal? And if there’s a confusing or clash I’d ask the dm or defer to 2014

[viscid pond]

What might be cool for 6e/AD&D3E is if Luke Gygax joined up here on this Discord as a loremaster for Greyhawk (taking interviews from Stephen Chenault and others), Ed Greenwood for Forgotten Realms (he is the official loremaster of 6 decades after all!), and Tracy Hickman / Margaret Weis for Dragonlance

Having WotC leaders good enough for regularly-occurring fanciful puff pieces, staggered interviews, and involvement in the community -- even at the deep-cuts level -- would be wonderful for the game's future. Tying the actual living game to it all would really push it to that extra level that feels so needed lately. Building bridges across everyone that touches the WotC D&D communities, and hopefully way beyond

[bronze wave]

Well there’s bonus actions and reactions

Plus free action stuff

[noble pelican]

Cleric but every time I try to actually do my job I somehow rip a limb off

[south prawn]

2024 characters are going to feel OP with 2014 characters against 2014 monsters

and theres a huge headache of deciding which spell versions you’re going to use, a lot of equipment has different wordings, are you allowing weapon masteries? All of that is a mess and I’d never allow it personally

Players don’t need longer turns haha, I’m good with it

[woven flint]

What?

Action, Bonus Action, Reaction, Movement, Free Object Interactions... Improvised Actions

[knotty vine]

im gonna cry

[noble pelican]

Despair

[south prawn]

Not to mention extra attacks that add up

[knotty vine]

our rogue died to a got damn broom

[woven flint]

Extra Attack is part of the same attack action

[noble pelican]

Swept him off his feet

[south prawn]

Sure, I’m just saying it adds up to being a lot more than just simply 1 action, 1 movement

[sly crest]

Classic Rogue

[noble pelican]

Tell me how good is druid

[woven flint]

Every class in the game has a way to use all of their different types of actions.

[south prawn]

lol… well ok then

[sly crest]

Dunno. First session starts next week, I live the idea of them but I’ve never played one

[woven flint]

Skill Issue, Personally, I wouldn't have fought the broom

[sly crest]

Starting out with a Fighter or Rogue

[noble pelican]

Wuh

[sly crest]

Have you seen the XP you get from the broom?

[south prawn]

It sounds like you’re wanting to be the star of the show man, but you take your turn, pass it on to the next player, and let it come back around. Combat would be even more of a slog if it was much more than that

[noble pelican]

I see

[woven flint]

Its not a lie,
Every class has something to do with their actions attacking, casting, ect and bonus actions Rage, Cunning action, Spellcasting, second wind, Martial arts, and reactions Everyone can oppritunity attack, monk can deflect attack, rogue can uncanny dodge, casters can use reaction spells.
I don't know what you're talking about lol

[strong wave]

Im scared to play a beast master in my upcoming game because I'm not used to controlling minions

[jolly agate]

it's fun, trust

don't think too much of it, just think as if your character had many actions

[woven flint]

Its like the game is designed that way purposefully? 🤔

[marble lion]

bonus actions are definitely frequently useless on characters that werent thoughtfully built

[woven flint]

Most TTRPG systems have limited actions you can do on your turn, its not just a D&D thing

[south prawn]

The real question is…. what is it that you want?

[marble lion]

ive played plenty of characters that dont let you do bonus actions much

there is usually something, but not something you can do often etc

as a caster, there are often scenarios where the bonus actions falls flat

[south prawn]

Passive…? That’s interesting

[marble lion]

unless youre casting cantrips with your main action, or are controlling something that you can reactivate with a bonus action, there is often nothing you can use it for

[serene folio]

im trying to create a false hyrda town but dont know where to start with anything

[south prawn]

I’d say I’ve been quite the opposite of passive, pretty direct really, but ok

[marble lion]

maybe i read your point wrong. is this about bonus actions being useful every round or just there something existing to use it for, even if rare?

[woven flint]

#dm-discussion could possibly help

[marble lion]

in my campaign, one character almost never has something to do with bonus

i think hes an armourer artificer, its been a while

[tall forge]

Theres a lot you can do, imo

[marble lion]

i would genuinely be interested in examples

[woven flint]

Considering how long some players can take with their regular turns, I don't THINK we need a lot more to do with our turns.

[marble lion]

specifically for the armourer arti

[tall forge]

Tho if you want a more complex ttrpg, DND combat isnt great for that

[marble lion]

agreed, im actually fine with how it is, im not complaining at all

[knotty vine]

I’m playing with two very confidant people 😄

[marble lion]

i consider bonus actions a bonus, not something i need every turn

[tall forge]

Dnd 5e especially is extremely streamlined for new players

[woven flint]

The animated broom has killed more people than most monsters, i fear ||Looks at the death house broom in particualr||

[tall forge]

Personally, i just enjoy what dnd does well

[humble cairn]

I regularly use all of my action economy on my Beast Master, but that's because my one Bonus Action turns into a whole Action and another Bonus Action from my primal companion.

[woven flint]

And some people do not.
Because things DO change before your turn sometimes

[marble lion]

tokii said something that i disagree with

so that is what my statement is about. i might have misunderstood tokiis statement though

[tall forge]

For instance, i think DND is great for individual combat

[knotty vine]

I think I’m gonna die in this hosue

[tall forge]

If people arent great at team work especially

[marble lion]

5 minutes is crazy

[valid geyser]

i think we can solve this by giving people less things to do. then turns can go by faster

[woven flint]

If you can't solve your turn under 5 mins, than you have other issues going on tbh

[tall forge]

Eh 5 min is fine

[marble lion]

im fine with dnd 5e action economy mostly

[tall forge]

Its a little much

[humble cairn]

I play a pet build, so I'm very conscious of the time i take. I aim for less than 30 seconds for my turn.

[marble lion]

for starters its fine, for people who play weekly, thats way too long and will end with people losing focus and interest at most tables

[tall forge]

Agreed

But it happens sometimes

[marble lion]

5 minutes should only be a thing if youre new or if something weird happens like a rule clarification

[tall forge]

I especially dont time it if all my players are working together

[marble lion]

yeah exactly it happens sometimes in emergencies so to speak

[knotty vine]

I think I’m gonna die in this HOUSE

[woven flint]

Skill Issue /joking

[tall forge]

Combat still takes forever tho, that’s just the ttrpg moment

[marble lion]

5 minutes as a standard limit for turns is crazy to me yes

[tall forge]

Especially for new players

[marble lion]

i think limits are a bad idea because turns should be limited individually

[knotty vine]

Get me out of here dawg

[woven flint]

Nah, suffer

[marble lion]

limits end up making turns that needed clarification too short to satisfy, but make short turns take longer because "oh well i have another bit to choose"

instead, enforce mindset and focus directly
that way they take as long as they need, but no longer

[valid geyser]

i did see a game yesterday where the players had a 10 second shot clock for their turns (or at least practiced with one beforheand) it was crazy to see how much they got done in an hour of playing

[humble cairn]

Last fight, i threw a net, tossed another net to my pet tossed a stone as a second attack, then my pet threw a net as a first attack, then I moved, then my pet used his second attack to grapple me (i voluntarily failed) then pet bonus action dashed and dragged me even further away to get out of line of sight.

[marble lion]

usually turns will last about a minute for martials with basic stuff, or 2-3 for casters etc

[bronze wave]

I don’t have limits unless it’s super annoying

[marble lion]

exactly

[bronze wave]

At some point mf take your turn and move on

[knotty vine]

All you gotta know is what you can and can’t do and plan accordingly

[humble cairn]

This one turn was probably less than 15 seconds.

[woven flint]

If all else fails
Just attack, honestly

[tall forge]

Im pretty straightforward in combat

Get your bread and butter and just do that when you dont know what to do

[marble lion]

doing 6 actions in 15 seconds is speed i dont expect from anyone

[woven flint]

My tortle knowledge cleric virtual insanity sliding to the prone enemy before shocking grasping them to death

[marble lion]

so judgemental

[tall forge]

I think that youre really limiting your viewpoint of what dnd can do if you think thats it

[strong wave]

I like to picture this as a gorilla

[humble cairn]

I generally do have a plan in place before my turn in initiative, but sometimes things change and i have to adapt.

[tall forge]

Theres many things you CAN do in dnd, such as grapple, shove, interact with environment, use magic items, and literally entire spell lists

[bronze wave]

Barbarian wondering how ppl do more things then just attack 😭

[marble lion]

or maybe theyre new, or play a new class, just levelled up etc

[humble cairn]

Flying pet, so more like i put my hand up and the bird grabbed me.

[tall forge]

Its literally not

[bronze wave]

The trends never lie

[tall forge]

You can say it’s one action and movement on average

[valid geyser]

for sure. I wish there was like, a type of character that did things other than attack with weapons

[tall forge]

And im saying there are plenty of things you can do with that action

[marble lion]

bait used to be a wisdom save

[tall forge]

And frankly

[bronze wave]

It’s time to play a caster

[humble cairn]

Except for turns like this #dnd-discussion message

[tall forge]

You can do more than that usually, most fun builds i have use bonus actions constantly

[woven flint]

Time to eat the wizard so I can gain his arcane knowledge

[tall forge]

And again, spell casters have multiple different options for their action that it can be overwhelming for some

And thats fine, it happens 🤷

[woven flint]

No, he literally did that within rules

[tall forge]

No thats in the rules

[marble lion]

dont you think this is starting to feel trollish tho

yes yes i heard you "mate"

[tall forge]

He was here yesterday ragebaiting

[bronze wave]

Y’all can just not interact with the guy lol

[valid geyser]

i never thought of it that way, you're completely right

[woven flint]

Its a free action not to be an ass ✨

[south prawn]

I stopped, he’s impossible

[brittle beacon]

This is all base rules?

[tall forge]

Got muted and got upset iirc

[marble lion]

if he did that yesterday id just say cease

even if its not a troll, which would be even more sad

[bronze wave]

Again guys just not interact lol

[tall forge]

Extra attack

[marble lion]

aye aye captain

[tall forge]

And why wouldnt it?

[woven flint]

Throwing a net is an attack action lol

[hot marlin]

Hello hello everyone

[jolly agate]

Hello

[hot marlin]

What is happening here today?

[tall forge]

Nets are a thrown weapon, you can throw two weapons in a turn

[bronze wave]

Holy shit 😭

[woven flint]

Average D&D server discussion

[naive cedar]

Hi fellow dnd enthusiasts

[eager marsh]

Idk something about nets im just visiting during my lunch break

[tall forge]

I enjoy talking to ragebaiters 😔

[eager marsh]

That doesn’t matter

[hot marlin]

Is gourmet literally arguing that nets are not weapons because they don't have damage?

[woven flint]

Grappling and Shoving are also attack actions and they don't do damage

[tall forge]

Damage doesnt have anything to do with the rules of whats an attack my friend

[eager marsh]

That’s not actually true per the rules

[tall forge]

You can replace an attack with a grapple, shove, or throw

[jolly agate]

Why no one told me that Autognomes were a thing?. I thought one of my friends had pulled a new race outa his arse

[woven flint]

this is a case of "I haven't read the rules-itus"

[hot marlin]

Actually they are, if you check the rules you'll notice that to grapple you have to take the attack action.

[naive cedar]

I wish ragebaiters put more effort in tbh

[brittle beacon]

not true in either version of the rules

[woven flint]

Spelljammer species are sadly underused

[tall forge]

Its mildly boring, dudes playing a pathfinder elitist and could up his game way more

[woven flint]

Have you read the rulebooks at all?

[jolly agate]

It's pretty cool tho, Autognome artificer just makes sense

[marble lion]

read his name, he eats them

[tall forge]

Perhaps those is why you find dnd boring my pal

[eager marsh]

Ah I see now

[naive cedar]

Yall act like two legends can’t coexist (dnd and pathfinder)

[eager marsh]

Anyways I think thri-kreen are fun

[hot marlin]

Here:

When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it, you can use the Attack action to make a special melee attack, a grapple
PHB, on combat.

[jolly agate]

I feel like autognome is just less cool warforged

[tall forge]

I wanna get into pathfinder, thinking trying my next campaign

[brittle beacon]

Having 4 arms is cool

[tall forge]

Oof isnt that an awkward message to send right before i say im interested

[eager marsh]

Also bug telepathy

[hot marlin]

It does, yes.

Therefore?

[south prawn]

All of this complaining and you still haven’t said what the hell it is you even want. More actions? 2 per turn? 3? Unlimited?

[tall forge]

Hes just rage baiting lmao

[hot marlin]

Here, on the next line:

If you’re able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.
Emphasis mine

[eager marsh]

Finally

[south prawn]

Haha, ok I’m out

[naive cedar]

I want to play the pathfinder owlcat game

[woven flint]

Bug Mind to Mind translation

[valid geyser]

well, complaining about stuff is easier than suggesting improvements

[tall forge]

Unfortunately im usually the dm

[hot marlin]

Oh that's a good question! So if grapple replaces one, is there a rule stating that you can't make two grapples?...

[tall forge]

So its real hard to actually get to play it

[valid geyser]

obviously its some kind of mysterious phantom rule haunting the book.

[naive cedar]

Fam, I played dnd 1e.

[tall forge]

My players are only joining me bc im the only dm of our group

[hot marlin]

Doesn't seem to be any rule stating so. Normally you'd expect the rules to clearly say it.

[brittle beacon]

as many as you have arms/appendage

[hot marlin]

So yeah, raw you can do multiple grapples in a turn.

[brittle beacon]

so usually 2

[torpid hound]

How do I coordinate my skill proficiencies with the party? My character's an Orc Fighter that survived multiple days in the woods alone so he has Survival proficiency, and his Soldier background automatically gives him Intimidation proficiency. But my friend's High Elf Paladin also has Survival and Intimidation

[eager marsh]

Even thrikreen can only grapple two at once

[woven flint]

I'm gonna grapple the guy grappling me and we're gonna hold hands... /silly

[craggy summit]

That sounds like a hug with extra steps

[south prawn]

@torpid hound You could use the Help action to assist him with related skill checks and vice versa. Proficiency is required and it grants advantage on the check

[hot marlin]

I'd recommend Kingmaker! It's...Sightly better than Wrath of the Righteous. The plot is better, the companions are better, but combat system is less refined.

[jovial shadow]

The grappling rule is "one grapple per hand" so yeah you can grapple two creatures if you have two free hands

[tall forge]

Whats kingmaker?

[hot marlin]

Pathfinder: Kingmaker. An owlcat game that adapts and expands one of Pathfinder's Adventure Paths.

[tall forge]

Oo, that might be interesting

[naive cedar]

I’ll check them out

[umbral oak]

fr?

[hot marlin]

As opposed to Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. Also an owlcat game. Also adapts and expands a Pathfinder adventure path

[naive cedar]

I’ll probably play rogue trader first

[hot marlin]

As opposed to Warhammer 40K: Rogue Trader. Also an owlcat game. Adapts and expands the Rogue Trader RPG by Fantasy Flight Game, but doesn't directly adapt any specific adventure from that game. Though takes inspirations from many published adventures and lore published by FFG for Rogue Trader

[woven flint]

Narrative Declaration has a pretty fun Kingmaker game you could watch on YouTube if you're interested in that

[umbral oak]

okay i got a question lets say i am a echo knight right and i used up shadow martyr would it be possible for me to use my action to ready my echo to jump in front of a attack?

[eager marsh]

No

[hot marlin]

Owlcat is basically the company that adapts RPGs into video games in an isometric style somewhat reminiscent of old Bioware in writing and style, though noticeably darker than Bioware tended to be in Baldur's Gate and in Knights of the Old Republic.

[eager marsh]

Thats a separate high level subclass feature

[tall forge]

1st, that would be movement which isnt really a readied action thing iirc

[eager marsh]

You can ready movement

[tall forge]

Secondly, there aren’t really abilities in dnd to “take the hit”

[eager marsh]

Also yes there is

[tall forge]

Did not know this

[naive cedar]

Tbf modern CRPGS are a lot darker I find

[eager marsh]

Not many but there are

[tall forge]

I mean non-class ones

[hot marlin]

Baldur's Gate 3 was not very dark. But yes

[tall forge]

Like, its not a thing everyone can do like shove

[naive cedar]

Play Durge lol

[hot marlin]

Larian is known for being somewhat light-hearted.

[woven flint]

Looks at Crown Paladin
And the Mark of Sentinel dragonmark

[hot marlin]

I did. I still find it significantly more light-hearted than the owlcat games.

[tall forge]

I meant regular actions like shove 😭

Durge is less sad and dark, more so depressing and edgy

[hot marlin]

No matter what, Baldur's Gate 3, even when playing Dark Urge, still is somewhat... Cartoony. The evil it portrays is safe. It doesn't hit as close to home, as real and dystopian as Rogue Trader gets.

[tall forge]

Which I think it should be, mind you

[naive cedar]

Well if that’s the case I REALLY need to play owlcat games lol. I found Durge genuinely pretty horrifying at times

[tall forge]

Its edgy story for durge is meant to be that, bc Bhaal IS an edgelord

[torpid hound]

Not what I meant
I meant how do we not have overlapping skills? The Paladin has Keen Senses and my Fighter has Perception and Survival

[naive cedar]

It’s a lot more humorous yeah

[tall forge]

I love disecting durge storyline..

[south prawn]

That new Divinity trailer though… wow!

[woven flint]

Bhaal vs Molag Bal

[naive cedar]

Admittedly, I think that modern graphics and detailed NPC interaction makes evil choices in modern RPGs darker

[dark pewter]

There's nothing wrong with having skill overlap, especially if your characters tackle their skills in different ways. Only having one character in a party that's good at a certain check can be pretty rough if multiple PCs need to make that type of check.

[tall forge]

Bhaal is edgier, dudes domain is “murder”

[hot marlin]

In Rogue Trader, you can find yourself ordering the murder of children. You can find yourself purging and massacring people for heresy, you can find yourself massacring entire populations due to a genetic defect.

It's not something any D&D story has tended to portray.

[naive cedar]

Like killing all the guys in Fallout 2 or whatever is one thing. They’re a bunch of blobs. In BG3 you’re killing motion captured, fully voice acted people

[woven flint]

Molag Bal's domain is
Ahem

"Domination"
Brother just loves enslaving souls

[hot marlin]

It is a matter of... What is the world like, you know?

[naive cedar]

Oh yeah I also heard about Marazhai’s romance lol

[tall forge]

But did he make an entire bloodline of in universe murder hobos

[marble lion]

do you know molag bals title?

[naive cedar]

Bhaal is the OG muderhobo

[marble lion]

maybe look up his title that im not allowed to say here

[tall forge]

Oh i know it

[hot marlin]

For those who don't know: Molag Bal is a daedric prince (think god, but a god who did not participate in the creation of the world, as opposed to the Aedra, who did) in the Elder Scrolls series. Molag Bal's sphere is domination. Domination takes many forms, but generally the universe portrays it as brutal ways of humiliating and destroying another person psychologically. Including what you're thinking of.

[marble lion]

molag bal is worse to me than bhaal

[tall forge]

But bhaal is the “im 14 and deep” cringe edgelord

[naive cedar]

I think molag and Bhaal are tied

[marble lion]

molag does everything bhaal does, but adds things worse than death to the mix

[naive cedar]

Molag’s evil is more realistic (his title….uhhh yeah)

[woven flint]

Molag is the guy you don't wanna run into in an allyway at night
Bhaal has been such a clown that he should be in a circus

[tall forge]

Yeah, which makes it less edgy and more blegh to me

But thats me equating edge to a bit of lightheartedness/cringe

[hot marlin]

In the lore of the Elder Scrolls, he was the origin of vampires. Through assaulting (I will not use the other word) women, he turns them into vampires, who can then spread the curse. This is the backstory of Serana in Skyrim.

[tall forge]

An edgelord talks about how awesome his murder is

A real creep is molag

[woven flint]

Bhaal just kills you

The prospect of what Molag Bal does to your soul after is definitely worse.

That's why my favorite Daedric prince's are Sanguine and Sheogarath

[tall forge]

I can be ok with an edgelord

Im never ok with a molag

[naive cedar]

It’s not outright confirmed that’s what happened to Serana but it’s heavily implied

[bronze wave]

Most evil chars are edgelotds lol

[hot marlin]

Anyone who knows the lore knows what happens to daughters of Coldharbour.

[bronze wave]

Molag is also an edgelord

[woven flint]

Wrong!
I look at Crocker from Fairly Odd Parents

[tall forge]

Well, he isnt evil

[hot marlin]

Having never played the MMO, I cannot comment on whether or not he is an edgelord. His appearances in previous games are... Well, exactly what I expect from a god of domination.

[woven flint]

He's not, I love him, I just wanna mention him

[naive cedar]

I’m aware, but the average player doesn’t know the lore lol

[bronze wave]

Keyword most

[hot marlin]

That is fair.

[woven flint]

But, Dr. Doofensmirtz isn't an Edgelord either

[bronze wave]

Also molag and fairyodd parents

[empty thicket]

He..... he isnt evil... he have problems yeah but evil not so much

[hot marlin]

Oh, you meant "most" as in "the majority", not "most" as in "the evilest"?

[tall forge]

Dr doofenshmirtz isnt evil at all

[south prawn]

Just by the nature of it, there will tend to be overlapping skills. If you truly want to coordinate with different skills it’s as simple as choosing different character options that grant the ones you want - that can mean different classes, species and backgrounds altogether

[woven flint]

I love Doof, he's just like me fr 😔

[bronze wave]

Did your parents also not go to your birth?

[solar nebula]

what to say to the other players who are also completely new if their character sheet is half wrong because they filled it up with chatgpt completely

[naive cedar]

Dr doofenshmirtz is a boyfailure

[tall forge]

Spray bottle with water

[south prawn]

@torpid hound Otherwise if you each have the same skill profeciency, you can take advantage of it with the Help action - so it’s not a complete loss for your group

[woven flint]

Nope, sad times
I was also adopted by Cheetahs but also raised to be a garden gnome

[bronze wave]

Tell them it’s wrong and to not use chat gpt lol

[bronze wave]

Did the cheetahs make you do it or you parents

[empty thicket]

Like, the guy had all the reasons to be literally the biggest villain ever
Abandoned by his parents, made use a dress he didnt liked and others kids bullied him, ugly like a kick in the nuts, always a shadow and the no favorite of his parents, got his gf's stole like 10 times and one time with a WHALE. even with all that, he have a big company that make tons of money, because lets be honest.
He never lacked materials and he even became a great father for his daughter

[woven flint]

Dr. Doof isn't a boyfailure, he's a good damn dad and better than most fictional dads and real dads!

[tall forge]

Hey, just because its creatively and environmentally immoral doesnt mean its wrong

[solar nebula]

i mean i also used ai but not completely and also asked for the fundamental concepts instead of just writing everything it tells me to

[tall forge]

Also he got a wife that only seperated for tax benefits and funds most of what he does

According to the new lore*

[bronze wave]

I mean idc if someone uses ChatGPT it just doesn’t help make a char sheet

[woven flint]

He's living his best life, even his nemesis is really just his best friend

[bronze wave]

Sure idc rlly lol, but idk if ChatGPT is good for making a char sheet, other things maybe sure. But for a char idk.

Just tell them to watch a YouTube video and google stuff

That’s what I do

[empty thicket]

And sometimes doof make such silly stuff that could be used in tons of stuff.
The rain machine? perfect for agriculture
The aging one? perfecto for wines, sausages, cheese, etc. etc.
Etc. etc.

[solar nebula]

yeah no only me and 1 other person out of the 4 pcs made their backstory and stuff without ai

[naive cedar]

He can be a great dad and still be a boyfailure

[bronze wave]

I mean in the movie his machine save the day

[tall forge]

He hasnt really failed at all

[empty thicket]

the dimensions movie?

[woven flint]

He's not a failure regardless, despite all the tines he's failed he still has a career

[bronze wave]

I think so?

[tall forge]

Thats the problem, dudes literally winning

[naive cedar]

Being a boyfailure is a mindset

[woven flint]

Suffering from success

[naive cedar]

(I do agree that Doofenshmirtz rules though. I just think calling him a boyfailure is funny)

[tall forge]

He’s incredibly confident, motivated, and intelligent

[empty thicket]

After seeing what he made of machines, he is harmless. Except the Axeinator, that wasnt harmless.

[woven flint]

Exactly!

[echo wave]

sup yall ig this is the dnd sever huh?

[tall forge]

He should be the poster boy of alpha males imo >:)

[bronze wave]

Doof 100% is a boy failure, he’s from the trenches. But he be trying tho

[empty thicket]

only in pair days, in unpair we are the NdN server

[tall forge]

Some would say yes

[bronze wave]

He tries not to be a boy failure

[woven flint]

Either way, we all love him

[naive cedar]

His parents didnt even come to his birth 😔

[bronze wave]

That’s a boy failure thing

It’s not all his fault still is true

[empty thicket]

he was a better person than his parents and i bet, if he had 1 more son, he would treated both at the same level

[echo wave]

well hello everyone i know dnd i have seen the movies and i tried to play dnd with my friends but we didn't had the board game and stuff but yes i would like to know how to play dnd and also if we ever play dnd i would like to join aswell

[woven flint]

Make the BBEG of your next campaign a Doofensmirtz-esque individual 🧐

[naive cedar]

EXACTLY someone gets it!!!

[echo wave]

if anyone is hosting and stuff

[tall forge]

I did that for a one shot

A beholder who really wanted to find the cure to rabies, but accidentally was giving everyone in a town nearby rabies

He thought the party was big pharma…

[woven flint]

I may be a Xenophobic being from another plane of existence that hates everything but RABIES is too damn far!!!

[bronze wave]

Damn it I forgot about that

[tall forge]

This was a good(?) beholder dw

[empty thicket]

someone silly that make rare plans for some not so big things?
"Yeah i will use a whole box with runes that are Time Ravage for age my cheeses, only the elfs and some other races can have such luxury and i HATE IT!! IM GOING TO RUB MY AGED CHEESE ON THOSE LONG EARS!!"

[woven flint]

Oh, my Knowledge Cleric found put recently that Vincent Trench, the private detective from Waterdeep is ||actually a Rakasha in disguise||

And he's honestly just a chill guy, genuinely loves the people of Waterdeep, even to his surprise

He's a minor character, so I don't think it matters that much, but I was freaking out in and out of Character lol

[tall forge]

Oh my god i thought of something evil to do to my players next combat

[woven flint]

Evil beings that are just chill guys are pretty cool ngl

[bronze wave]

My bbeg is a genocidal maniac but taught a player how to play poker

[tall forge]

A coming up combat involves moving mirrors that shoot out line attacks

Im gonna use 5 of em to just box in a player

[woven flint]

Well...I feel that's a completely opposite side of the spectrum lol

[bronze wave]

Fireball

[bronze wave]

He’s a chill dude on occasion

[empty thicket]

my friend pc (he changed to a new one so the new pc doesnt know us well yet) is freaking out for the many things we had did.
Fought a kraken, owlbear, giant, Powerfull demon, hold against an avatar of an evil god, etc. etc.
Each time we say something about it is freaking out more and i love it

"What you all mean you fought an ancient owlbear!? How are you all even alive?!"

[knotty vine]

Perhaps I was too cruel

[severe rampart]

Mayhaps, still, I don't think you would've known they were up from working all night

I'm not defending your actions, but I'm not saying you 100% meant what you said

I'll do better in future sessions to make sure that everyone has fun, lighthearted DnD that doesn't end up in flames

[knotty vine]

They could have done better

[dry vapor]

Is it normal for someone to want you to buy art to be able to join a campaign? Idk I’m new, but it kinda seems like a scam

[valid geyser]

yeah thats a scam

its been an issue in other RPG servers ive seen