dnd-discussion

[undone rain]

Woaaah thought you were around 23

No offense. Dnds for everyone

[humble cairn]

And this would have been almost ten years ago.

[undone rain]

Oh dear lord

[fast latch]

He doesn’t know yet

[humble cairn]

Can't get more specific than that, against server rules.

[fast latch]

Alright he wants to go Conquest/Assassin Rogueadin

[severe rampart]

Never heard of a rogueadin but sounds awesome

[proper forum]

Sorry for not responding early what do you need help with exactly?

[obtuse patio]

Just some stories.

[obtuse patio]

You don't have to😅

[sour vault]

Hey yall! Im a new and self taught DM who is DMing for a party of three (a barbarian, a rogue, and a wizard) and I am ashamed K need to ask this but how do I get them to stop fighting or trying to rizz up EVERY SINGLE NPC old man? Can I rizz him, young lady, they're literally frothing at the mouth. They've completely disregarded the story to try and get into the queen's pants and then when one of them inevitably does the other two will try to kill the queen in retaliation!

[severe rampart]

I prepare by performing voodoo ritual in hopes that my character does not accidentally die the first session, after that it's just improv and prayers

[small heath]

25 (3 months ago I got involved. My birthday is in May)

[sour vault]

And yes all of their alignments are evil, so they're all synonymously horrible people

[serene jolt]

#dm-discussion might get you more answers!

[sour vault]

Alr

[obtuse patio]

I was trying improv to but it's get not very good

[proper forum]

You mean the lore of the campaign I'm writing?

[severe rampart]

I rolled a 0 one time and had to improvise quickly

[obtuse patio]

Stories about your games, what happened in the game

[obtuse patio]

One time i got -1, that was funny

[fast latch]

He changed his mind to playing maximum T A N K

What’s the best Paladin subclass for T A N K?

[steel quest]

Guys is it normal that 6 people in a row somhow managed to roll Nat 1 while rescuing others from drowning so we all nearly died 🫠?

[severe rampart]

Yeah

Sounds like a regular Tuesday afternoon

[steel quest]

😂 I mean it was one of the best moments I had

[small heath]

Bro my lizard folk INT score is a 8 and I rolled a Nat 1 on an intelligence check to figure out how to open this container he came across while exploring a mage's home (we're robbing them). So I literally just said, "Naga starts biting the container like a chew toy."

[proper forum]

Well my character is a noble drow whose family was killed in a slave uprising when she was a child. In her lowest moment her patron came to her and offered her love and support. Now in return she will do everything to set her master free.

[small heath]

I took 2d8 radiant damage 😭

[glossy otter]

Ooh, who's the patron?

[severe rampart]

LOL, I rolled for a religion check one time with an 8 INT, rolled a nat 1, it was a check to see if I recognize the noble family of my fellow party member, since we were both nobles (Their family symbol was a white circle)

had to make up the fact that my child sorcerer has been skipping his studies so he could practice magic

[small heath]

Playing as a lizardfolk in this campaign so far has been funny. He's forced to work with this party because they saved him from a death sentence (he has a bounty by a bunch of local monster hunters). He's been experience all of this new 'technology' society has, and it's been a blast so far.

[obtuse patio]

You was a player? If not that char was a npc? How players deals with her

[small heath]

He saw a mysterious glowing red liquid in a glass bottle that smelled like strawberries and instantly drank it without hesitation because "it smelled good." Luckily it was a healing potion.

[fast latch]

Cool, what class?

[small heath]

ranger

[fast latch]

Very nice

Subclass?

[small heath]

Green Reaper!

[fast latch]

Nnnever heard of it

[small heath]

Which I reflavored into "Red Reaper" since that's his 'nickname' by the hunters of the local population

[fast latch]

What does Green Reaper do?

[proper forum]

That is my current character as a player

[small heath]

It's from the Grim Hallows campaign, which is what this session is. Basically from what I can tell (only lvl 5 atm), it's a poison-based subclass.

[fast latch]

Oh that’s sick

[small heath]

The idea is that you're poisoning your equipment and all and giving a bunch of debuffs if you successfully hit your stuff.

[proper forum]

A three-eyed lich who thinks he is a god

[obtuse patio]

Sounds super cool!

[fast latch]

Poison is such a cool concepts, despite it being the worst damage type

[fast latch]

Very sick concept

[severe rampart]

I know right? my poor warlock with a snake patron was struggling to put up poison numbers

[small heath]

Like I can poison my arrows, and when I hit I can expend one of my spellslots to do another 1d6 ontop of a normal 1d4 poison damage, and give an effect that hinders my target. For example, I can envenom my arrows to have 1d4 additional poison damage, then expend a spell slot to add another 1d6 to that, and give someone a Toxin Effect like "Uncoordinated". What this means is that they are given the Poisoned condition and cannot take reactions, disengage, or dodge until the end of my next turn.

It seems like a cool debuff-based subclass.

[mystic summit]

It's impossible to find a text rp guys

[small heath]

There's a server I'm in for a D&D campaign that meet weekly for a normal session. But, I worked with the DM and he created a channel where our characters can do canon text RPs inbetween sessions.

I even showed everyone how to set up a Tupperbot and all of that.

[severe rampart]

be the change you want in the world, start one in your group

[mystic summit]

I can't DM man

[small heath]

Are you in a campaign?

[mystic summit]

1 but it's kinda... Eh

If you had the ability to have 2 lv 20 classes what classes would you combo

[remote wadi]

Depends on what I am trying to accomplish

But a super easy pick is to find someone to be a Sorcerer

Then pick Rogue and Paladin

[lost flicker]

anyone know of any good resources on the Cartography and Lore of the cities of the Sword Coast?

namely Waterdeep, Elturel, and Neverwinter

I'm planning on running and rewriting bits of BA:DA, and was wanting to read some information on the other cities

[remote wadi]

Combine that with a Divination Wizard

Assassin Rogue too

20d6, 10d8 Radiant

Plus if Divination Wizard decides to help with the con save, that's double damage dealt

So I guess to answer the question

2 characters. One a Paladin and Assassin Rogue, the other a Divination Wizard at least

We would be very lucky that exploding dice and chunky crits are onky homebrew

[stark maple]

its still crazy to me that dnd has yet to make any more classes

[atomic kayak]

Artificer definitely exists. And they very recently had a UA for a new class

And thats just recent stuff for 5e. DnD has made... many classes over the decades

[stark maple]

i meant for 5e in 8 years we only got 1 new class

[atomic kayak]

Not that weird of a thing

[stark maple]

like in 2e we got the bard they kinda removed and readded monk and rouge back at some point

[sterile goblet]

Weren't there different base stats for each race

Why is my dm rejecting it😭

[stark maple]

in 3e they added warlock and supplements for warmage duskblade faovered soul and stuff

[remote wadi]

I just hope they make better defensive and control focused options

[atomic kayak]

5e moved away from locked ASIs on species a while back

[humble cairn]

Not really anymore. Now you get them from your background.

[stark maple]

long gone are the days of having a +6 asi as a human

[sterile goblet]

Am i ... old ?

[remote wadi]

By the way, there was one combination that does realistically make sense in DnD. That being PAM and Sentinel

[stark maple]

or havingn a +4 as a dwarf

[remote wadi]

The more you think about it, the more it makes sense that pawns in chess attack diagonally

[sterile goblet]

There are so limited options in background

[stark maple]

also 3e to 3.5e including all source books had over 50 base classes

[humble cairn]

Just ask if the DM will let you use a custom background and assign your own ability about increase.

[stark maple]

dnd 4e god bless its heart had around 77 new classes n such despite it not being around all that long

[humble cairn]

Wizards seems to be letting third party companies do all this work now. But I'm really okay with the number of official classes being limited.

We can balance around the official ones and then allow the third party ones on a case by case basis.

New subclasses do a significant amount of diversification, too.

[stark maple]

now even 8 years later we only had 1 new class

[humble cairn]

And I'm really okay with that.

[teal sable]

https://media.dndbeyond.com/mega-menu/party-wizard.gif i found a secret

[stark maple]

im not abig fan of illrigger its elementals are too not dnd to be played as such

[teal sable]

on dnd beyond website

[humble cairn]

Sure, and because it's third party there's no pressure at all for any DM to include it.

[stark maple]

so saying "wizards is letting 3rd party doing the work" is

[humble cairn]

Letting the fanbase have it's fun without having to be responsible for the balancing.

[stark maple]

just bored of seeing the same thing over and over is all

[humble cairn]

There's plenty of third party material to explore and ask your DM to include or to include yourself if you DM.

Me, I'm more than happy to use the official classes and reflavor.

[stark maple]

id rather see new official thing added then having to ask my dm if "this this and this" is allowed

[humble cairn]

Like, I reflavored barbarian as a martial artist and it worked great. I have an idea for a psionic reflavor of barbarian as well.

[humble cairn]

Ahh. I wouldn't like the bloat, personally.

[stark maple]

1-2 more classes couldnt hurt

[humble cairn]

I'm cool if they take their time doing that.

[drifting fjord]

Anyone notice the dnd publishing schedule is horribly slow and we still don’t have a clue what is coming out this year, if anything, from Wizards?

Very frustrating

[atomic kayak]

The publishing schedule has been this way since the start of 5e

[uncut zenith]

I will say, iirc, they typically would’ve done a DnD Live event by now. They could be waiting until closer to the end of Q1 tho

[stark maple]

does dnd even had a road map like other games or do they just kinda randomly throw out new 5e content

[hollow stone]

that's the sport, you don't even get to wait you just hear of something that happened and find out later whether that happened or not

[stark maple]

i see

[fast latch]

Sorlock

[hollow stone]

yea no a couple of months ago they dropped a new Last Ebberon and they probably telegraphed it but i never heard even a word until "2024 warforged" like a week after it came out

[stark maple]

peak

[atomic kayak]

Forge of the artificer was announced and talked about plenty. It just got pushed back due to printing issues

[atomic kayak]

Yea not having a road map for at least the first half of the year is a bit strange, but the publishing schedule of 5e has stayed remarkably consistent throughout its lifespan.

It has never been "20+ books per year" like some previous editions

[grizzled lance]

Id still like a road map to show us what we might get this year instead of just guessing

[uncut zenith]

Again, they typically do. But it’s still relatively early in the year, and this is the first year that started with a new management team

[grizzled lance]

I feel like they are gonna sell

[crimson gulch]

4.5 books per year is typical for 5e. Older editions were double or triple that much.

There's been a huge changing of the guars with Perkins and craford leaving and new designers and writers coming on board. I don't want rushed books so they can cook for as long as they need with the new folks before they publish more

[uncut zenith]

I’d even be happy with two or three great books in one year over four or five mediocre ones

[grizzled lance]

Id still like to see one out standing book for 2024

[uncut zenith]

Agreed. Just gotta give it more time

[grizzled lance]

One that reaches the likes of mines of phandelver or curse of Strhad

[atomic kayak]

CoS is so very overhyped. Its not bad but its not really great. I think a lot of people just have early 5e nostalgia for it (or perhaps more accurately in some cases: nostalgia for whatever changes their DMs made for it)

[uncut zenith]

It’s a fun adventure imo, but the book itself is poorly designed

[grizzled lance]

Agreed

[uncut zenith]

I had a lot more fun playing it than running it

[atomic kayak]

Part of the issue is that sentiment can be applied to. A lot of modules

[grizzled lance]

Just got done with an encounter in Cos where SPOILER
||24 tree guys spawned and killing all of them took up initiative||

[atomic kayak]

As a book (and by extension, an adventure) its just. Not really good. This is not mutually exclusive with people having had fun with it, but not something I would call "outstanding"

[grizzled lance]

Im leaving it as vague as possible but still a spoiler

[uncut zenith]

Yeah I feel like in more recent years they’ve written much better designed modules

[grizzled lance]

I’m surprised more people don’t talk about keys to the golden vault

[uncut zenith]

The issue being that a lot of people seem to complain about how “railroad-y” them feel

[atomic kayak]

All of the proper modules from the past 5 years are so dramatically better than the modules from the first 5 years of 5e. Its somewhat absurd.

[grizzled lance]

Or icewind Dale

[uncut zenith]

It got a lot of hype when the book came out, but I think heists are such a niche theme that it wasn’t really for everyone

[atomic kayak]

Thats an issue with people refusing to accept the concept of buy-in unfortunately

[grizzled lance]

Heists are cool on paper but actually doing them is the issue entire Rick and Morty episode on this lmao

I’ve heard a lot of good things from tomb as well but only issue is that it’s “meat Grindery”

[uncut zenith]

I haven’t played it myself, but from what I’ve heard from friends who have played it is that the big dungeon itself is fun, it’s all the exploration and hexcrawling in the first part of the campaign getting to the dungeon that’s kind of a slog

Especially since 5E doesn’t really have the best/most extensive rules for the exploration pillar

[grizzled lance]

True

That kinda goes against what 5e is about if they did

[hot gate]

I think it could be done, but it would need quite a bit of additional rules-stuff to make it tie into what 5e pcs are capable of.

[uncut zenith]

Not really. 5E has always been an advocate for the combat, social, and exploration pillars. Combat is just the one that has the most rules because it’s what needs more support.

That said, exploration definitely needs more support imo and just… hasn’t had a lot.

Or rather they have more, but it took them 10 years and multiple books spread across those 10 years to give us just enough.

[stoic haven]

Out of the main D&D modules, what would yall say are top 7

[hot gate]

I think 7 are more modules than I've played unless you include the one shot anthologies

[uncut zenith]

Agreed

[hot gate]

I have a soft spot for Rime of the Frostmaiden, so that would definitely be in the top 3.

[knotty pasture]

LMoP is there somewhere

[uncut zenith]

I hated RotF myself, but I think that’s mostly because a lot of it felt like a slog and my players didn’t really buy into the survival aspect of it like they said they wanted to

[hot gate]

Aw, sorry to hear that

[stoic haven]

I am including everything

[hot gate]

Then I need a definition of "module". Is every adventure inside of the anthology books it's own module?

[stoic haven]

No, each book counts as a module

[grizzled lance]

I want more cr 21-30 creatures dnd let me see what horrors you can truly make

[stoic haven]

I always thought

[grizzled lance]

I wanna see the updated Tiamat!!

[uncut zenith]

I mean the latest Tiamat in Fizban’s still holds up. I personally don’t feel like she needs an update yet

[atomic kayak]

I can't give a specific order but. I can give a list of 7 generically on top for me. I am also going to cheat slightly and actually only give 6 because my first one is also technically 3 adventures in one.

• DoIP Sequel Trilogy (which is effectively one actual adventure), DoIP is not included.
• Radiant Citadel
• Call of the Netherdeep
• Wild Beyond the Witchlight
• Rime of the Frostmaiden
• Keys from the Golden Vault

[grizzled lance]

Yeah but it lost its limited magic immunity regen and other things like her being a fiend

[stoic haven]

OotA #1, CoS #2 (unfinished campaign), Icewind Dale #3, Waterdeep Dragon heist #4, Eve of Ruin #5, Storm King's Thunder #6, LMoP #7.

[fossil hollow]

thinking about running rime soon

[umbral girder]

Sounds chill

[atomic kayak]

it really didn't "lose" anything - its just a completely different form for her

[stoic haven]

Icewind Dale is so good, you should Ti

[grizzled lance]

Exactly so why can’t we have a 2024 version

[umbral girder]

Who says gods need a single form for stats as well

[brisk cape]

hi 👋 how do i start?

[hot gate]

I can vibe with that. My order would be something like

1. Lost Mines of Phandelver
2. Rime of the Frostmaiden
3. Heroes of the Borderlands
4. Golden Vault
5. Curse of Strahd
6. Candlekeep Mysteries
7. Dungeon of the Mad Mage

[atomic kayak]

the DoIP sequel trilogy I think is one of the most underrated module sets (from the essentials kit). It has a great level of structure while leaving nice room for customization and it helps to guide that customization a decent amount too. Something of a precursor to when 5e modules started becoming better

[stoic haven]

Ooh, I've been wanting to play a Candlekeep game for some time now, never have though

[atomic kayak]

In a lot of ways the sequel trilogy is basically heroes of the borderlands just years early

[umbral girder]

Yeah Lost Mines is easily the best adventure for me as well

[atomic kayak]

Because it... still works in 2024?

[fossil hollow]

icespire lives rent free in my heart

[umbral girder]

Yeah it’s still a 5e stat block so it still works

[stoic haven]

Bottom is Princes of the Apocalypse and Tyranny of Dragons

[uncut zenith]

Yep. No need to “fix” what ain’t broke

[atomic kayak]

I'll be honest, I have never been able to understand people's like of Lost Mines. It's, to me, mid at best. Not as much of a mess as ToD or (even worse) PotA. But also not really good imo

[umbral girder]

Amusingly I’m running both at the same time

[hexed girder]

So, LMoP is generally considered awesome... What about Phandelver and Below? Isn't the first half basically the original module?

[umbral girder]

Phandelvar is simple and to the point that just works very well.

[hot gate]

Yup, with some slight tweaks

[stoic haven]

Currently in a PotA campaign rn, its such a drag, and main thing that is helping is our shenanigans

[atomic kayak]

PotA is probably the most disappointing 5e module for me. Because its top level concepts are fun. But it has near 0 delivered plot. And essentially no connective tissue between its set pieces.

[hot gate]

It's pretty alright. I found it eminently runnable, but the whole mindflayer shtick really gets tiring after a while.

[stoic haven]

I was playing both at the same time at one point, it sucked, and ToD DM was wanting to be paid for it

[hexed girder]

PoTA is temple of elemental evil right?

[fossil hollow]

princes of the apocalypse aye

[stoic haven]

Explain further on the plot and connectiveness, I don't think I am understanding

[uncut zenith]

That’s my biggest complaint with it, I feel like I’ve been a little too “out-mind flayered” these past few years, especially with how prominent they’ve been in BG3.

[atomic kayak]

Thats another thing I really don't get (I do to some degree but*). People saying that mindflayers were "overdone" when PaB came out. That was really the first 5e adventure where they were actually the focus.

[hot gate]

haha yeah, all the players and myself having put hundreds of hours into bg3 definitely didn't help

[atomic kayak]

*I get it to a degree because of BG3 but within 5e its just. Simply not true

[hexed girder]

I mean PoTA is essentially a revamp of temple of elemental evil I heard

[atomic kayak]

Its the lack of a plot

[uncut zenith]

It’s not a problem with the module itself, it’s a problem with how much WOTC throws in their iconic trademark monster in their adventure modules. Even if it’s a minor appearance and not the major focus.

[hot gate]

It definitely has some cool monsters, but they were getting recycled a bit much.

[atomic kayak]

Well A) that just. Makes sense to do. But also B) Mind Flayers really did not feature much at all in 5e modules

[naive cedar]

tbh I’d just play temple of elemental evil

[uncut zenith]

Whether it makes sense to do or not doesn’t mean I haven’t had my fair share of mind flayers

[atomic kayak]

There is like. One in one adventure, an area in another (but thats a megadungeon and features 8 billion other things as well), and then another minor sidezone in another

[hexed girder]

Hmmm, so if my group has people that haven't played LMoP, would just running PaB be a good alternative?

[atomic kayak]

sure, but thats still different than the common claim of "they have just been in everything", because thats just blatantly untrue

[uncut zenith]

Like I said, even if they’re not the main focus on a campaign module, they still feel like they get shoehorned at least in a small way in a lot of the adventure modules

[atomic kayak]

They are in like, 3 of them

And at least one of those is barely a character

[undone rain]

Hmm any good languages to pick for hexbloods? I need 3 and i want em to fit the character

[hexed girder]

Pig Latin, always Pig Latin

[grizzled lance]

It’s so much fun to imagine fighting a monster so much bigger then myself in dnd

[hot gate]

Even if they aren't my group definitely got tired of all the mind blasts in Obelisk

But I agree that they tend to pop up. Not as often as beholderkin, but I like the latter more anyway.

[fossil hollow]

i hated how much int saves there were. my poor peace clearic almost broke

[hot gate]

Same with my druid haha

[fossil hollow]

took resilient INT just for that campaign

[atomic kayak]

"int and strength are dump stats"

[fossil hollow]

i didnt dump it though, i had average int

[hot gate]

It's one of the few campaigns I really don't care to run again.

[burnt valley]

what module

[hot gate]

We're talking about Shattered Obelisk

[fossil hollow]

phandelver and below yeah

[uncut zenith]

I’d like to at least play through it once, but it’s not my highest priority one

Turn of Fortune’s Wheel and Radiant Citadel are probably higher on my list than Shattered Obelisk

[stoic haven]

Is Radiant Citadel good?

[humble cairn]

It's really fun!

[valid geyser]

i really havent heard anything good or bad from it

[fossil hollow]

oh god, reminds me, should i run rime or turn of fortune's wheel 😭

[valid geyser]

i never hear much specific talk on the anthologies. I guess it's harder to judge those

[humble cairn]

I've played in I think two one shots Ti ran using it.

[burnt valley]

turn of fortune's wheel but players spend all the time gambling

[stoic haven]

Gambling???!!! >:D

[humble cairn]

I like a lot of things about it, from the cultural inspiration to the way they do NPCs using PBIF rather than Alignment.

[fossil hollow]

hermes, no

[uncut zenith]

It looks really good on paper, but I’ve never played any of the adventures myself. The Radiant Citadel itself is really interesting to me tho

[fossil hollow]

i ran the filipino and chinese one

[severe rampart]

Thank you now I've imagined a DnD party playing "Who wants to be a millionaire"

[stoic haven]

What is Radiant citadel if yall dont mind me asking

[fossil hollow]

enjoyed both

[atomic kayak]

radiant citadel in particular got a lot of... particular hate

[fossil hollow]

lemme guess, people who thought it was too woke

[severe rampart]

Oh hey Philippines mentioned, nice

[fossil hollow]

ofc!

[stoic haven]

Cuz I'm playing Icewind Dale with a homebrew class and subclass being Merchant (subclass: Gambler)

[sly crest]

People who use woke as an insult can't be my homie

[sly crest]

Octopath fan?

[stoic haven]

Octopath? Taron Pounds

[burnt valley]

there's different versions?

[burnt valley]

Yes, the prices are quite good

[fossil hollow]

huh? theres just different adventures in it that are based off culturs

[uncut zenith]

Yep. There was even a vocal group in this server who said it was “problematic” that WOTC would write an anthology that focuses on POC cultural representation and POC writers.

[crimson gulch]

Shattered O is great I can't wait to run that again

[humble cairn]

Radiant Citadel is an anthology of adventures, each written by a different author, with a central hub setting in the Ethereal Plane.

[burnt valley]

ohhh so thats what u meant

[crimson gulch]

Radiant citadel has ok plots but needed more dungeons

[severe rampart]

I've never heard of that, what's it about?

[stoic haven]

What's one class concept yall would really like to see D&D have? (Not including UAs)

[crimson gulch]

Phandelver and below the Shattered oblisix.
It's a good campaign that takes the old starter kit and makes it a full campaign

[burnt valley]

Fighter but with devil may cry moves, lore accurate air juggling and combos and taunts that mechanically does something

[valid geyser]

from my experience with anthology books, usually the dungeons are the easiest to be fun

[crimson gulch]

Cosmic horror, mind flayers and a whole bunch

[severe rampart]

Probably an actual summoner, not those little "one at a time creature, and you have to have concentration on it", actual summoner

[uncut zenith]

I feel like most fantasy concepts have already been done in D&D tbh

[valid geyser]

maybe because theyre the most structured and combat focused

[severe rampart]

That sounds amazing

[crimson gulch]

Agreed

[humble cairn]

Non-caster Social or maybe Int based Controller/Support

[burnt valley]

DMC-style Stylish Combatant fighter subclass

Also remove the God who wiped out gunpowder for some reason (i like my guns ty)

[uncut zenith]

It helps that they’re designed to be straightforward for the purpose of being run as one-shots. If you want a one-shot that can actually be played through in a single session, it has to be very straightforward.

[crimson gulch]

My rankings of the compilation books from best to worst is
Infinite staircase
Candlekeep
Dragon delves
Tales from the yawning portal
Ghosts of salt marsh
Vecna eve of ruin
Radiant citadel

Putting vecna on that list is a hot take in itself

[knotty pasture]

I'd like the Witch from PF2e be ported over into 5e ngl

[burnt valley]

there's no such thing as eve of ruin

[valid geyser]

I get it. It's meant to be a campaign adventure but the way its set up it can feel like that

[crystal nest]

What's your problem wth Radiant Citadel?

[sly crest]

A class that uses necromancy for healing, such as to kill off parasites or speed the healing of a wound by aging it.

[stoic haven]

I do really like this, and would advise you to look at Dancer Class by Taron Pounds for this concept

[crimson gulch]

It's real and it's ok

[burnt valley]

lying is bad :c

[burnt valley]

that would be kinda mundane tho

[humble cairn]

Mundane like a Warlord? Sure, I'm cool with that.

[sly crest]

I have one or two other examples but they're kinda gross

[knotty pasture]

Why not both? An int based controller that isn't a spellcaster but has skill monkey features that allows them to be a social

[stoic haven]

Skill Monkey and social 2 different things

[crimson gulch]

Why you gotta be like this

[burnt valley]

Make hard rules for skill checks and then we can talk about skill monkeys mattering

[knotty pasture]

Oh no I get that they aren't literally the same thing, I was thinking that if an int class (which would have proficiencies in arcana, history, etc) also having some kind of bonus that makes them decent in rolling for persuasion, deception, etc

They'd be somewhat like a skill monkey in versatility

[crystal nest]

How do they defend/attack tho? Are they a martial or not?

[stoic haven]

Main thing you would have to compete with is Bard's overall usefulness in both social and control, but without spells

[valid geyser]

id assume they would have weapon and armor proficiency

[knotty pasture]

Great question I have no idea, I was just thinking that an int controller and a non caster social can be combined into its own class without needing to be split into two separate ideas

[stoic haven]

This sounds like Fae wanderer subclass, but those are usually subclass features

[uncut zenith]

It would definitely need something to make sure it can hold up in combat, even if primary role isn’t being a martial/caster

[stoic haven]

Turn manipulation could work

(Action economy)

[burnt valley]

make them super strong at Tier 4

[stoic haven]

Eh, thats overall

[crimson gulch]

Final boss fight in my home game last night has been done and dusted. Epiloge session and then we have another epic level 20 game wrapped

[vapid temple]

I wanna try to get into dnd but idk where to start

[severe rampart]

First would probably be reading the rules, and then making your first character sheet

It CAN feel a bit overwhelming at first, but you can watch Jocat's a crap guide to DnD - character sheets to help

keep in mind to not take his jokes too personally since it's just his style of content and beyond that it's actually really helpful

[vapid temple]

I mean I do have a character already

[severe rampart]

Do you know what ability modifers, saving throws, abilities, and spells are?

[vapid temple]

Kinda sorta…my friend was teaching me until we lost contact with each other.

[severe rampart]

It can't hurt to watch the video, but if you are sure you have a character ready you can either
A. Go to the LFG channels and find a party
Or
B. Learn more about the rules and what you want to play as

[stray atlas]

been wondering, are there any cures for vampirism other than wish?

[severe rampart]

Be bit by a human in the leg /j

[severe rampart]

Probably killing them and then using true resurrection or resurrection

[burnt valley]

reincarnate

[stray atlas]

would either of those work on a vampire normally?

since aren't they technically dead?

[severe rampart]

Maybe? But it might depend on the DM and their ruling

[potent vector]

With Nystul's Magic Aura

[stray atlas]

no idea what that is

[potent vector]

Anything can be a Humanoid that way

[potent vector]

Spell. Basically gets you treated as any creature type you want for the purpose of magic and spells

[stray atlas]

sounds strong, what level is it?

[twin flax]

how long do your campaigns usually run for? and how often do you play?

[potent vector]

Chat does he know?

[stray atlas]

clearly not

[potent vector]

2nd

[stray atlas]

huh.

[potent vector]

Yeah

[stray atlas]

I was thinking it would be like 5th or 6th

[potent vector]

Probably wasn't a good idea ik . . . But hey, I can Awaken Zombies now!!!

[severe rampart]

It would be severely weaker if that were the case

[potent vector]

It also lasts 24 hrs btw

[stray atlas]

oh wait speaking of 5th level spells, can swift quiver and haste stack?

[granite lodge]

Evening

[potent vector]

Both are Concentration so no

[stray atlas]

not from the same user

just they're applied to the same person

curious to see how many arrows a ranger could fire in one turn

[potent vector]

I mean, yeah? But it isn't very good unless yk how to cheese Incapacitated Condition lol.

[potent vector]

Ah. Then yeah, it works.

[stray atlas]

also not quite related but I still wish that the arrow of many targets was a thing in base dnd as either an item or spell

thing was a lot of fun in bg3

unbalanced but fun

[potent vector]

There's a spell that works identically

Well, after a certain point

Chromatic Orb bounces if you match damage dice. For every upcast you get more damage dice, so it eventually becomes impossible to not bounce the max amount of times

[serene jolt]

2014 war cleric. We have obtained a large sum of gold. Should I get a Devotee Censor or some kind of Enspelled weapon? I currently use a 1 handed weapon and shield.

I will absolutely be getting the Amulet of Devout but I was deciding on a good 1 handed magical weapon.

[swift juniper]

Would it be reasonable to level up the players next session to level 3, even though they leveled up last session and didn't this session

Or should I wait another sesh

[stoic haven]

Depends

[potent vector]

What rarity do you think you could get out of the Enspelled? (That is, what level are you?)

Enspelled Weapons are pretty busted

[proper forum]

What is the difference between demons and devils?

[potent vector]

Devils are the corrupted Celestials who created the Nine Hells as a Vault to bottle up the Abyss. (It wasn't always all that evil)

Demons come from the Abyss. The Abyss was made by a mad God that was spiked with the power of Aberrant gods from the Far Realm and was told to corrupt the Astral Plane with it (and thus everything else). He didn't listen and stabbed it into the elemental Planes

[kind bramble]

Undead aren't all immune to frightened? Im playing a paladin in curse of strahd who just switched her oath to conquest which is entirely built on inflicting fear from channel divinity cause fear on any target withing 30 feet to aura of fear reducing speed on frightened creatures 10 feet away to 0 and has a reach weapon

[proper forum]

Which one is the one that is evil and on fire and is where bad and evil people go to when they die

[eager marsh]

The entire main use of cleric channel divinity invokes the frightened condition on undead so them being immune would be an issue

[serene jolt]

I feel like I might be able to afford up to a rare, maybe a very rare if I sacrifice some other items I wanted.

And remember these are 2014 spells. So sadly, I cannot get a Divine Smite or anything as cool as that would be.

[potent vector]

Both are evil, but one is Lawful (Nine Hells), other is pure Chaotic Evil (Abyss). Nine Hells is closer, but in general souls are said to go all over the place when they die.

Depends on alignment according to 2014 DMG, but you can have it be whatever you want

[lavish flame]

both of them. In D&D, when you die, your soul goes to an Outer Plane that matches ur alignment. If you were a particularly Chaotic Evil person, when you die you go to the Abyss and become a Demon. If you were a Lawful Evil person, when you die you'll go to the Nine Hells and become a Devil.

[kind bramble]

Also noticed I can stunlock, fearlock, enemies next level if I get polearm master. Cause I have Sentinel. So I could reduce enemies to 0 speed when they get close, then wrathful smite on my turn to inflict fear, their speed remains 0 cuz of aura of fear and I can go to town with my glaive

[eager marsh]

if its 2014 rules then are you even sure you can get an enspelled item?

missed reply oops

[potent vector]

As in 2014 campaign, or character?

Or are you guys just emulating some 2024 stuff?

[stray atlas]

for the unaware the arrow of many targets can hit multiple enemies at once and has the funny effect of critting every enemy if you crit the first target

also it seems to ignore walls if an enemy is in the radius

[eager marsh]

total cover rules always apply unless stated otherwise

[serene jolt]

Character and campaign. I've been able to convince the DM to allow me to have a couple of 2024 things here and there (like we have 2024 healing word and cure wounds, and I have the 2024 war caster feat). But it's primarily 2014.

I believe enspelled was a thing before 2024.

[eager marsh]

considering how strong enspelled items are, you should try asking if those are even being allowed at all first

[stray atlas]

unless that was a bug

[eager marsh]

it was not. purely 2024

[serene jolt]

OH you're so right. I guess that answers my question. Devotee Censor it is!

[potent vector]

Take the Enspelled Weapon if you get Rare.

[stray atlas]

actually wait, does fear in normal dnd like it does in bg3?

[serene jolt]

It's not even a 2014 thing. XD Sorry

[potent vector]

Alright, Censor it is!

[stray atlas]

where it makes you unable to move unless you fail a save?

[serene jolt]

I plan on getting the Amulet of the Devout and the Censor.

Then if I have enough gold, a +1 or +2 shield and the staff of healing.

Does that sound like a good choice for my cleric?

[eager marsh]

unable to move closer to the source of fear*

[stray atlas]

ig that answers my question without meaning to

[potent vector]

They just can't move towards you

[eager marsh]

No I meant to answer your question fully. I dont know what bg3 did to change the condition so i told you what it does in 5e

[stray atlas]

oh that was me saying what it does in bg3, I thought you were tryna correct me saying what it does in bg3 my bad

[eager marsh]

No bg3 changes many things so it often causes issues in rules understandings for people that started there

[stray atlas]

because the arrow of many targets with this one bow in bg3 could cripple entire groups with this one shortbow that gave all arrows the ability to inflict fear

[stray atlas]

ik it changes many things, hence why I was asking if that was a thing changed

also speaking of things bg3 changes, I still think the way bg3 handles mind flayers and the memories of the person they spawned from is much more interesting than normal dnd's way to handle it

where they start out with some of the memories of the person they came from but also lose them gradually as they eat brains

[eager marsh]

normal DnD is quite vague on that to start with and mind flayer lore isnt even clear on if they absorb any memories of a brain eaten after the first by their tadpole

bg3 also contradicts the old lore on if they have souls or not as well

[heavy parrot]

i am trying to make a Baker theme character
i want to follow the rule KISS
background was inspired by Chef spore (last character i played as) and wanted to become a baker and didnt get accepted for not following what his people do for work.
Race and class suggestions would help a lot!
I was thinking Leodain cartographer or scribe wizard

[potent mountain]

what's yalls favorite origin background?

i just discovered haunted one and it seems cool

[severe rampart]

It's cool, personally Sage for me since it gives Magic Initiate Wizard for free

[covert root]

Sage. Otherwise, Zhentarim Ruffian, Purple Dragon Rook.

[grizzled lance]

I wish I was a drow

[eager marsh]

trust me, no you dont

[covert root]

No, you don't.

[eternal hatch]

Who wanna hear something random dnd related

Paladin acolyte elf

[grizzled lance]

I wish to be a drow genie

[covert root]

If you're a genie, you're not a drow.

[grizzled lance]

I’m telling the genie my wish

[eager marsh]

Ther Genie grants your wish. you are born as a drow male specifically. Enjoy the suffering

[covert root]

USE YOUR PUNCTUATION.

[grizzled lance]

No

[grizzled lance]

It can only get better from here

[covert root]

Actually, it gets worse.

[grizzled lance]

How much worse

[eager marsh]

it's a Matriarchy society so being a male there is like being a woman in [redacted irl nation] and you're regarded as a lesser citizen compared to the women.

Also it's just a dangerous society. it's like the mafia but gender swapped

[covert root]

A typical drow male experience involves just being considered worthy enough to keep living, but not too worthy that you should be sacrificed. If you're younger, you have no prospects. If you're older, you're likely a target for the younger brothers to slay and overtake.

All the while, every single woman outranks you.

[worn lagoon]

Simply be born in the singular patriarchal wizard city

[grizzled lance]

Sounds like an average Saturday night

[worn lagoon]

being born as a male drow in any other drow city is a skill issue

[grizzled lance]

I prey for the wicked on the weekend

[covert root]

Or have your whole family die and join Bregan D'aerthe. I'd argue that's one of the 'happier' outcomes working for Jarlaxle; at least your merit has something there.

[grizzled lance]

Momma can get another amen

I made my first dnd character with trama included

[burnt valley]

its optimal to be born in Netheril

[covert root]

At this point, it's more unique to not traumatize the PC. I just want me a humble farm boy with good parents to come home to after an adventuring career.

[covert root]

Depends which era.

[undone rain]

So hexbloods. Their related to hags yes?

[grizzled lance]

Not exactly hags themselves

[undone rain]

Well i mean as in is one of their parents a hag to be a hexblood

[grizzled lance]

Like how Dhampiers and reborn aren’t fully undead

[covert root]

You mean a hagspawn?

No wait, you mean the one from Ravenloft.

[worn lagoon]

my only 'orphan' character was raised by a wealthy archwizard and enjoyed a life of luxury. his adopted dad is still alive and kicking.

[covert root]

That's awfully expedient.

[grizzled lance]

Yeah

My goblin Druid named Dott came from a relatively loving tribe well as lovely as a tribe of goblins can be

[covert root]

Goblin....'loving' tribe?

The only good goblin is a dead goblin.

[undone rain]

Oh wait they gaaaain their lineage power from a deal with hags (some atleast) im an idiot

Im trying to make an origin for my hexblood character which is why im askin but i dont want to make one whos evil

[grizzled lance]

Grahahaha too bad my parents are in the feywild

[covert root]

#character-discussion

[potent mountain]

yayyy

now time to wait to get into a campaign...

[small heath]

Question for everyone: what is a subclass that you wish got more attention? Something that is severely underrated.

[potent mountain]

Drunken master monk

[covert root]

Death Domain, but only because I want it updated for 2024 to break the mold of "cleric must be a healer".

Obviously there's War Domain, but I need more offensive cleric domains.

[lavish flame]

There's a few. Sun Soul Monk needs a rework badly. Long Death Monk does too. Battlerager Barbarian as well. Really anything from the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide

[grizzled lance]

Kensei could do with an update

I mean give it more ranged abilities

[crystal nest]

Sun Soul was lightly updated in Xanathar's.

It's not going to be made into a nuclear bomb of Radiant Damage, IMO

[grizzled lance]

Sun soul is so bad

[covert root]

Astral Self could be fun, but I'd only want it if I could be a 2024 Gith. The Stand user monk.

[grizzled lance]

It’s capstone is literally 2d8 radiant damage that has a con save attached

[crystal nest]

People got too fixated on the Goku that they thought they were getting Goku, Sun Soul Wise

Heaven forbid that Goku be able to be taken out with a simple shot from any weapon

[grizzled lance]

Monk doing less damage then a short sword will forever make me laugh

[iron herald]

That feeling when Super Saiyan Goku gets a rock chucked at his head.

[crystal nest]

The problem with a LOT of 2014 Monks is that their subclass abilities were designed to be supporting Unarmed Strikes, because they were scared stiff of Monks doing nuclear damage

[grizzled lance]

It also had mismatches abilities aka you can’t a radiant sun blot and then a bonus action unarmed strike

[valid geyser]

also ki was just way too limited of a resource for the first 10 levels

[grizzled lance]

Very expensive but weak spells (burning hands searing burst)

[crystal nest]

So much of it was "Do this in addition to punch, not working with punch or outdoing damage with punch...also, overcoming magical resistance & Stunning Strike make up for lack of big boom"

[barren panther]

My first pc was a drunken master monk and it was so much fun

[crystal nest]

Sun Soul was a victim of Early Edition version of Early Game Syndrome

[grizzled lance]

That’s the issue with sun soul you can’t do a radiant sun bolt attack and then an unarmed strike

It had so many issue working against it that you might as well not have a sub class

[crystal nest]

I'm quite aware.

Even then, people projecting headcanon Goku onto it made its already terrible reputation worse than it should have been

[karmic pendant]

Probably monster slayer ranger or beast barbarian

[potent mountain]

hey yall

what do you think of bards?

[minor cargo]

A+ class. But I also think all classes are A+ haha.

[hoary totem]

Convince me to play a martial. I can't get over the temptation of "fireball and eldritch blast go brrrr"

[burnt valley]

Let Sun Soul Monks go Super Saiyan

Open Hand Monks should become Kenshiros

4 elements should be the avatar state

[glossy narwhal]

Well this suuuuucks

Tryna create Kopis and Falcata designs for my character and they look too similar

[jovial shadow]

Why? It was logical since unarmed attacks are less than most weapons anyway. The difference has always been that eventually the Monk would do more damage than any weapon later in his career. In 5e they limited it d10 in 2014 and increased it to d12 in 2024. In earlier editions the Monk could do 8d4 points of damage per hit.

[uneven comet]

Hello, can you advice me some subclass for Pugilists- i starting at level for as Orc with feat Grappler. with this feat looks like grappled-oriented subclass The Squared Cirle is not so usefull, that better would fit Pugilist with Grappler feat?

[serene jolt]

If you can't get over that temptation, then don't. There is never a need for you to have to play a class you don't want to play.

But if you really want to, maybe dip your toes in with a half caster so you can still get the martial feel with the limited casting.

I still don't touch martials. Half casters, sure, but martials, meh.

[barren panther]

Pretty sure pugilist is technically #third-party

[sly crest]

Found a local meetup that plays both versions of 5e, as well as pathfinder

good stuff

[barren panther]

Bards are great

[hearty marsh]

I am new here, how can I join the conversation pls

[umbral girder]

They are alright

[barren panther]

Are you also new to D&D? Welcome

[hearty marsh]

Yes

[barren panther]

Check out #dnd-newcomers , they have resources in there for the basic rules and terminology and stuff

[potent mountain]

You speak

[barren panther]

That too

[potent mountain]

Anyone can join the conversation

[hearty marsh]

Ok cool

[covert root]

Welcome. We promise not to haze you.

[worldly flare]

Ok this is a weird question but does anyone here know of a way to get a humanoids statblock to CR 10 or lower while leaving its full statblock retrievable? I’m trying to do something with Boon of Fluid Forms.

[prime basin]

We? Who is we? They'll learn what this server is the hard way or the harder way!

[covert root]

I must've pased my Deception if you're asking me that.

[fossil hollow]

what?

[prime basin]

Is ragebait secretly just deception checks?

[fossil hollow]

performance id say

[covert root]

Note to self: use the Influence action with 'Performance' if I ragebait with my fairy PC.

[prime basin]

I'd say its deception cause you know what your doing is stupid

[fossil hollow]

Yeah, but youre acting at that point

[covert root]

If you know it's stupid, why would you be doing it?

The simple solution is be too stupid to realize it's dumb, and thus have no dilemma.

[prime basin]

Actor doesn't necessarily mean that it is performing.

[covert root]

It's all an act to bait someone, thus Performance.

[worldly flare]

Wait nevermind I need to figure something else out first.

Also yeah no it’s performance.

[covert root]

I suppose if you're actively lying to warrant a specific action, Deception makes sense, too.

[potent mountain]

Hazing ritual

[prime basin]

I don't think so, because you're trying to lie on purpose for the point of getting a reaction. To me that sounds like deception

[covert root]

"It's a safe space," I say, lying out of my teeth inside a Zone of Truth. (I passed the Saving Throw.)

[potent mountain]

Ive won in dnd

I used to be flamed my dms for backflipping and dancing and singing in bars

But now I play a bard so im allowed to

[hushed mason]

40 minutes until the big boss fight at the end of the adventure.

I'm so afraid I'm going to kill them all.

[prime basin]

Not enough, seduce the table

[potent mountain]

Seduce the DM

[covert root]

I spend entire actions just ragebaiting during battles as any class, and it makes the fights so much more fun. I love the Influence action.

"What's the difference between a goblin and a shoe? One doesn't scream like a b— when I step in it."

[potent mountain]

I cant wait to do this lmao

I get to play instruments and raise hell in bars

[prime basin]

Sounds like a barbarian line

[potent mountain]

Your kidding me man I had the perfect gif

[prime basin]

"One doesn't scream like a bi- when I step in it" proceeds to absolutely cave in the goblin's chest with it's foot

[potent mountain]

Bard is gonna be fun

[covert root]

I used that line as the wizard in the backline to bait the enemy into Opportunity Attacks. So many died just losing all sense to try to kill me.

I don't need attacks to win battles. 0 damage playthroughs are neat.

[frank path]

Anyone open to trying a new version I’m making where if you go to the crucible (think planet doom from ready player one), if you die you lose all your brought gear. There are others places to go though, like mountain climbing, either way. And all you need is 6 D6’s for the simple mode.

[prime basin]

I mean i feel like your allies are doing damage.

[covert root]

That's the idea. Let them shine; I just troll in the back buffing/debuffing.

[frank path]

It wouldn’t let me post on it, but thanks anyway

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game has the instructions on how to use it

[potent vector]

I feel it could be either if the Player can justify the method

To me it's fun if players use their Skills creatively

[hidden spindle]

Should've been a half-caster. Regardless, it is a good class

[pearl hedge]

haven't played a bard yet

[glass granite]

Love me a bard

[reef copper]

Ngl since how good bards are, they could probably be half casters and still be decent

[pearl hedge]

i'm planning to do a bladesinger wizard next probably

[reef copper]

But also i love bards and would not like it

[pearl hedge]

i'm particularly fond of Arcane Trickster Rogues even though they're 1/3rd casters

[glass granite]

Nice

[valid geyser]

i can understand the bard half caster idea, since 3.5 bards were like 3/4ths casters, only getting to a max spell level of 7th

[reef copper]

They are nice

[glass granite]

I like arcane tricksters

[barren panther]

Bladesinger is very fun, just be careful running into melee, from personal experience haha

[pearl hedge]

yes, i mean in theory you could also homebrew a rule that makes their spells trigger sneak attack

[fossil hollow]

Just use True Strike

[glass granite]

True strike, booming blade or green flame blade work
Booming blade being my fav

[pearl hedge]

they work with sneak attack?

[fossil hollow]

yes?

[pearl hedge]

oh yeah i love booming blade but i haven't been able to use it yet

[reef copper]

I don't hate that idea tbh, could be added, but probably not possible for most of the spells

[pearl hedge]

i'm not saying all spells but it's a good idea

[reef copper]

gotcha

[barren panther]

I believe they do because they involve attacking with your weapon

[pearl hedge]

i mean in theory if you're behind 3/4ths cover and throw a firebolt, add sneak attack with your damage etc

[pearl hedge]

didn't know, DMs so far have said that they don't trigger sneak attack. but that might've been because we were playing 2014

[fossil hollow]

doesnt change. Its still an attack with a weapon

[reef copper]

Shadowblade is a cool spell for arcane trickster rogues btw

[glass granite]

Well True Strike is pathetic for 2014 rogues (and every class)

[glass granite]

Oh you can sneak attack with it?

[fossil hollow]

its a finesse weapon iirc, yeah

[glass granite]

It’s a finesse weapon?
Oh heck yeah!

[pearl hedge]

i'm pretty sure yes

[reef copper]

It is a simple finess sword

[pearl hedge]

yes it is! i think it's always a finesse weapon that you immediately gain proficiency with for the duration of the spell (if you weren't before)

[glass granite]

Noted

[reef copper]

Althoug a dm did not let me first time i got to play with it

[fast latch]

Hi guys I’m bored

[barren panther]

In 2014 as long as the attack is with a finesse or ranged weapon it counts

[fast latch]

What are we talking about so I can join?

[reef copper]

hi bored

[fossil hollow]

Hi bored, im Ti-Moth

[pearl hedge]

theorycrafting about combining sneak attack with spells

[barren panther]

Oops I’m a little behind, you got it figured out already

[fast latch]

Sounds like it might be busted

Which spells exactly?

[pearl hedge]

we're talking about arcane trickster. they're a 1/3rd caster so they don't get a lot of high-powered spells or spell slots anyways

[barren panther]

As a DM I’d say booming blade or green flame blade would be a definite go for sneak attack, but not anything that doesn’t involve the weapon itself

[fast latch]

Personally, I’d allow it on single-target spells, but not AoE spells

Imagine how busted FIREBALL would be with an extra few d6s on top of it

[glass granite]

My power corrupts

[fast latch]

Fire Bolt and Shocking Grasp would probably be fine with Sneak Attack

[pearl hedge]

i was specifically thinking about single target ranged spells with sneak attack not AOE

[valid geyser]

i dont think spells should be allowed for sneak attack at all

[barren panther]

RAW those would all be no good. Flame blade and shadow blade yes, but ranged spell attacks I don’t think so

[pearl hedge]

@valid geyser love the dungeon meshi pfp btw

[inner silo]

Bg3 is probably the only way to make true strike useful in dnd 5e

[barren panther]

True strike got super buffed in 2024, it’s good now

[pearl hedge]

it's barely useful in that as well, and anyways BG3 isn't really dnd with its mechanics

[valid geyser]

2024 true strike is strong but its not even really the same spell in any regard

[fast latch]

True Strike is good in 2024

[inner silo]

It's really trash but you can beat the game with it

[pearl hedge]

i'm just not a fan of true strike when i could use shocking grasp or fog cloud instead

[inner silo]

Is a shillelagh ranger without a shield viable?

[pearl hedge]

yes definitely

[inner silo]

Oki thanks!

[stoic haven]

One thing I like about BG3 is song of rest just gives you a short rest as an action

[inner silo]

What does it do in dnd?

[glass granite]

Any reason you might not wanna use a shield btw?

[fossil hollow]

Lets you roll a Bardic die for more healing

[glass granite]

Still viable, just curious

[stoic haven]

Extra HP during a short rest for people who expend hit dice

[inner silo]

I don't really like it's flavour for my character

[glass granite]

Fair

[inner silo]

Ah i see

[glass granite]

What weapon are you planning to use?

[barren panther]

If it’s shillelagh im assuming quarter staff?

[fast latch]

And if your DM is being lore accurate, you can’t cast spells with somatic components if both your hands are occupied

[glass granite]

Could be dual wielding club and smt else for all I know

[inner silo]

I want to play a fey wanderer and originally wanted to use a bow, but heard he's more viable with a wis build so now I'm thinking of shillelagh and magic stones

[barren panther]

True I forget about clubs a lot

Depending on how you play that might be worthy of a Druid build too

[inner silo]

I see, well all the more reason for it

[fast latch]

Magic Stone is a cool spell

[potent mountain]

What do yall think of HP Lovecraft's work in dnd?

[inner silo]

Can't use shillelagh on two things at once though

[glass granite]

Indeed

[barren panther]

Don’t get racist with it

[glass granite]

If it was possible I would’ve said two clubs

[fossil hollow]

whats the purpose of putting HPL's work in your games?

[potent mountain]

Waiting for someone to make the cheap hp lovecraft's cat joke

[barren panther]

Not here lol

[pearl hedge]

our dm is lore accurate, he required @fossil hollow to have incense to summon find familiar

[fossil hollow]

Wrong guy

[barren panther]

But yeah cosmic horror could be very cool in D&D

[inner silo]

Druid doesn't really fit this as much i think. I don't want to play a nature guy so much as a weapon based skill monkey and since i already played a rogue, hopefully not a rogue

[meager fractal]

Can someone cast a small de-hex on my dice they are all rolling terribly on me

[barren panther]

Ah I see. You did see fey wanderer so for at least that I think Druid could still make sense

[inner silo]

Ig swords bard* can also work

[rough basalt]

Fighter with the skilled and skill expert feats

[barren panther]

lol immaculate typo

[inner silo]

Fey wanderer is for charisma based on wisdom

[inner silo]

Isn't that a bit too many feats?

[glass granite]

Fighters get more feats remember

[rough basalt]

Fighter gets 2 more than others

[inner silo]

I guess so

[rough basalt]

If it's 2024, you kinda end up not knowing what to take featwise sometimes on fighters/rogues

If you're running something that's not feat heavy

[inner silo]

I'm playing with 2014 rules rn

[rough basalt]

In that case, yeah probably too many

Even then actually probably not

Depending on what you're running.

[pearl hedge]

didn't you summon an osprey??

[pearl hedge]

hi sora

[rough basalt]

Hello

[inner silo]

Is a bow fey wanderer also as viable as shillelagh/magic stones?

[fossil hollow]

they were talking to another person

[pearl hedge]

oh

[glass granite]

I imagine so

[inner silo]

Oki

Btw are there any charisma monks?@glass granite

[glass granite]

Oh heck no

[inner silo]

Then it's between fey wanderer/sword bard

[barren panther]

That could be a fun multiclass. A Bonk

Or a Mard

[inner silo]

Mord or Bank

[barren panther]

Tavern Brawler Bard actually kinda sounds fun

[fast latch]

You’d need to either Point Buy mega dump Int and Str or roll god stats

[barren panther]

RP wise at least

[inner silo]

Can a college of swords bard use a longbow?

[fossil hollow]

No natural proficiency with Longbows

[fast latch]

If they get Proficiency from somewhere else it could work

[potent mountain]

No way charlotte cracker from one piece

[inner silo]

College of swords gives proficiency with one martial weapon

[fossil hollow]

It gives you Scimitar

[inner silo]

Oh right, mb

Ig a 1 level fighter dip then

[fossil hollow]

or a warlock dip

[inner silo]

O, hexblade

[barren panther]

Waterdeep’s Favorite Ice Cream Treat™

[fossil hollow]

I dont recall any warlocks in Waterdeep. Elturel and Baldur's Gate, sure

[inner silo]

Minsc should have been Boos warlock

[fossil hollow]

Last i remember, Boo is just a miniature giant space hamster

[undone rain]

I like how eldritch knight is just the complete opposite to bladesinger basically

[inner silo]

He's also incredibly wise and powerful

[fossil hollow]

Its Boo

[undone rain]

Eldritch knight is a strong frontliner with weaker spells. Bladesingers a weaker frontliner with stronger spells

[tropic plank]

And hexblade is the odd middle child

[barren panther]

Big Fighter little Wizard vs Big Wizard little fighter

[undone rain]

Which is why i give em the moderatley armed feat lol

[covert root]

"Opposite" isn't quite the word. Two sides of the same coin, really. One's more martial, the other's more spellcaster.

[undone rain]

Basically lol

[inner silo]

Blade singer is a guy who sings with blades, eldritch knight is a knight who's really old

[tropic plank]

It’s funny how many classes get given a subclass about a magical weapon making them do things

[inner silo]

Where is the swords bard then

[tropic plank]

Can’t wait for ‘oath of artefact’ sword

[undone rain]

The forgotten cousin

[covert root]

Your mum's house.

[tropic plank]

Odd reply but pop off

[barren panther]

You’re no fun lol

[covert root]

That wasn't meant for you. You dived in at the wrong click. Caught a stray.

[inner silo]

Oath of tax collection when

[undone rain]

I do think bladesingers should gain medium armor prof at default tho ngl

[fast latch]

I had a Hexblade in my Waterdeep campaign until they had to leave for art school

[fossil hollow]

thats right, im a F(r)iend

[covert root]

No they do not.

[tropic plank]

That’s just crown with extra steps

[fast latch]

NO

They’re already freaking amazing, AC 17 would be too far

[fossil hollow]

17 + INT mod + 5 from Shield be crazy

[covert root]

I'm sitting at 20 AC already as a Level 4 Bladesinger. It does not need Medium.

[fossil hollow]

this is why tortle bladesinger is infamous

[inner silo]

I guess so

[undone rain]

Sooo picking moderatley armed feat may have made my wizard a lil op

[fast latch]

Tortle Monk should be able to add their Wis modifier

I just love Tortles being busted

[barren panther]

Yeah I think my lvl…13? (I forget) bladesinger has like 21 ac during bladesong before shield

[undone rain]

And shield spell

[fossil hollow]

You cant even do it in nonlihgt armor iirc

[barren panther]

That’s probably why I don’t use shield

[tropic plank]

They’re not given medium armour for a reason

[fossil hollow]

Starting at 2nd level, you can invoke an elven magic called the Bladesong, provided that you aren't wearing medium or heavy armor or using a shield.

[prime basin]

bro thinks his medium armor with his wizard is op

[covert root]

Can't hold a shield with Bladesinger.

[fossil hollow]

or med armor

[inner silo]

Medium armour does nothing for a dex based class, though ig it could work if you want to main strength

[cosmic python]

We're singing praises of bladesinging again? hell yeah

[fossil hollow]

in 2024, they dont even get armor

[barren panther]

Only if you train with your wererat sensei

[fossil hollow]

and BSong is turned off if you have any armor

[tropic plank]

We’re weaving the tapestries of singing a blade

[stoic haven]

Any?!

[fossil hollow]

yeap. Not even light armor is allowed

[covert root]

Trust me when I say you don't need it.

[fast latch]

Teen-age Mu-tant Nin-ja Tur-tles!

[undone rain]

Thatssss stupid

[cosmic python]

like at all

[stoic haven]

Dang, Oh I know they dont need it, but that's interesting now

[tropic plank]

Funny enough, blade singing sounds more like the sword bard subclass than the actual sword bard subclass

[barren panther]

Dang I’m glad I’m playing 2014 bs then

[fossil hollow]

its already damn good enough without med armor

[undone rain]

No ac is ever too high

[fast latch]

No s

No crap, really?

[stoic haven]

Greater than 40 is

[cosmic python]

blade singer blades are really just for show anyways

[covert root]

Correct. Bladesinging is not possible with armor or shield, so it's pointless. I just grab a rapier and pretend I'm Maelle.

[fossil hollow]

in any case, you cant put or wear med armor and have Bladesong up

[barren panther]

It’s kinda funny because bladesong iirc is kinda described more like a dance, so I feel like RP wise it tracks with college of dance

[stoic haven]

Because I think max + to hit is + 19?

[fossil hollow]

in 2014 or 2024

[undone rain]

I have barely any knowledge of what bladesinging does

[barren panther]

THANK YOU. I felt crazy saying this a few days ago in here

[inner silo]

If i want to make a barber bard, what subclass do i use?

[fossil hollow]

youre playing it :V

[barren panther]

It’s a bonus action that gives you a huge ac and concentration buff

[covert root]

Well, no, College of Dance leans more into unarmed.

Bladesinging is a trance of maneuvers and dance-like movement.

[barren panther]

Among other things

[fossil hollow]

it dips

[cosmic python]

who am i kidding though, i play rogues and open fist monks

[tropic plank]

The sword wizards should’ve been called something like school of steel, or bookblades

[covert root]

Well, no, because Bladesinging is passed down orally to begin with, and lorewise is tied to the elves. You're not supposed to read a book and know how.

[barren panther]

I RP it as making the sword sound like those tubes you swing around and they play a tone. Hence the blade singing

[fast latch]

Hey I got an idea

Well, I got it approximately a year ago

Ultimate Feats

Basically, at 20th Level, work with your DM to get exactly One extremely broken superfeat

For instance, let’s say you’re an Artificer

[stoic haven]

Epic Boon?

[barren panther]

My pc is also a Drow so he’s very much doing a bastardized version of the Realms accurate blade singing

[stoic haven]

You get those at level 19

[covert root]

The Aevendrow know how to Bladesing. It's mentioned in The Finest Edge of Twilight. They even broke the rule and put it in a book for Breezy to learn.

[fossil hollow]

that sounds like an epic boon

[fast latch]

No

It’s better

[solar nebula]

why do people hate gnomes

[fast latch]

An Artificer’s Ultimate Feat could straight up just

Turn them Full Caster

[covert root]

Who's 'people'?

[fossil hollow]

I dunno. Did you ask them why they hate gnomes?

[solar nebula]

some people are racist to gnomes

[fossil hollow]

did you ask them why

[solar nebula]

no

[tropic plank]

The neighbours always have them out their front garden and they look really creepy

[fossil hollow]

cuz we cant really speak for those people

[undone rain]

So what does it mean when i get a bonus ac equal to my intelligence modifier, like if i have a +4 to INT i get a +4 ac???

[solar nebula]

im thinking of a character concept of a warlock gnome who carries a mace with 8 strength

[fossil hollow]

yes

[covert root]

The FR wiki glosses over how they're secluded because the creatures they come across tend to be bigger and meaner, instinctively trying to take advantage of their perceived weakness.

[solar nebula]

and is completely spell focused

[fossil hollow]

thats. Just a warlock

[barren panther]

Mines a far traveler from Imberlur, but that’s cool I didn’t realize that

[fast latch]

I think gnomes are cool

I like how smart they are

I don’t like Forest Gnomes though, they don’t build stuff as much as Rock and Deep Gnomes

[undone rain]

Well i finally got that answered. Been scratching my head over that for the past few weeks

[solar nebula]

wha

[undone rain]

Well alr im ditching the moderatley armed feat and grabbing another

[fossil hollow]

Warlocks are spell focused

[covert root]

Very obscure lore that you'd need to read the book to know, honestly.

[solar nebula]

yes but this is a gnome that carries a mace too

[tropic plank]

Forest gnomes are an invasive group responsible for driving out squirrels, woodpeckers and other small tree based species

[fossil hollow]

ok?

[tropic plank]

So it’s a warlock that happens to have a mace?

[fossil hollow]

You can go pact of the blade if you want

[barren panther]

Ed Greenwood’s YouTube channel 😉

[undone rain]

Any feats i should get for my bladesinger that yall would recommend

[fossil hollow]

#optimization would have some reccomendations

[stoic haven]

That kinda just breaks balancing of characters, and classes already get level 20 capstones

[solar nebula]

nah the mace is purely to show

[undone rain]

Gotcha

[barren panther]

War caster+ blade song + concentration spells are super hard to break haha

[fossil hollow]

ok then, so its just a warlock holding a mace

[tropic plank]

Plus at lv20 you don’t need MORE power

[fossil hollow]

just a normal lock then

[solar nebula]

yes, without any benefit to it

[fossil hollow]

yeah, its just a normal warlock

[tropic plank]

Is that
Is that the whole character concept

[solar nebula]

yes

[tropic plank]

Is it a cool mace? Like their dead father’s that they want to use to defeat his killer? Or a secret artefact that’ll become a powerful weapon later down the campaign?

[fossil hollow]

they said no benefits to it

[solar nebula]

ya it's mainly just for very useless intimidation that will not work ever

[tropic plank]

I feel sorry for the dm of that campaign
Like what do you do with no backstory except a pointless mace??

[fossil hollow]

Warlocks are decent at Intimidation :V

[fast latch]

I like breaking character balancing because I like broken butt bosses

[tropic plank]

Why are the bosses butts broken

[fast latch]

Yeah, since they have good Cha

[fast latch]

HAH

[solar nebula]

no there is backstory ofc but they also just have a mace

[fast latch]

Wait a damn minute

[tropic plank]

So…
Why even have a mace

[barren panther]

Cuz it’s cool

[fast latch]

Why the hell doesn’t Warlock have the option to take Proficiency in Intimidation?

[solar nebula]

i mean like, it's a gnome with a mace. probably bigger than him

[barren panther]

Greatmace lmao

[solar nebula]

they don't? I thought they do

[loud tendon]

They do.. not persuasion though.

[barren panther]

Gnome with a maul but it’s just a regular mace

[worn lagoon]

To threaten people. With a weapon.

[tropic plank]

They do make gnome sized maces
It’d be funnier to have like a warhammer or a greatsword

You carry a greatsword but whenever someone asks you insist that it’s a dagger

[solar nebula]

oo that could work too

[cosmic python]

maces dont have points they deal bludgeoning damage for a reason

[fossil hollow]

theyre a little bit spiky depending on which one

[tropic plank]

A mace has several points most of the time

[fossil hollow]

Like, im looking at several picutres of maces, they have those leaf things on the sides

Like this one

[tropic plank]

The most common depiction is a ball with a bunch of spikes

[fossil hollow]

i thought that one was a flail

yeah, ball and chain with spikes is flail

[tropic plank]

Flails are basically maces with a chain between the handle and the ball

[cosmic python]

it was a joke

[fossil hollow]

no chain is mace, with mace is flail

[solar nebula]

what is even happening

[barren panther]

Yall thinking about a Morningstar

[fossil hollow]

Tone doesnt translate over text mate

[tropic plank]

I knew it was a joke I was just talking about maces because I like them

[barren panther]

Let the people riff

[covert root]

If they fail the Insight check, just keep rolling.

[fossil hollow]

I already am bad at Insight checks IRL, text does not make it any better

[odd swift]

anyone have an open campagin for my friend and i? new to dnd willing to learn

[fossil hollow]

#find-a-game

[vale sage]

If ya want so for sure i do

[gleaming swan]

Hey, asking for y'alls opinion, how hard is it to get into a game here?

[worldly flare]

Games are posted in #looking-for-players decently frequently but there’s a lot of demand

[vale sage]

Howdy ya'll

[kind bramble]

ever made a character backstory that made you cry when rereading it? In my case I have a changeling necromancer whose true form is faceless, and she grew up feared and seen as something to be feared, a thing, so she hid in masks, different faces and became a theif until she stole a necromantic grimoire that reminds her of necromancy more than teaches her, because she's reminded of a time as a child she forgot about where she happened to animate an undead, and because it didn't fear her, she named it mikey her first friend. it was eventually destroyed by adults who feared it. and now as she clings to her newest face, she clings to her undead friends. not tools, not creations. companions. the only ones who don't fear her real face

[gleaming swan]

Well it's agony finding one open on saturdays... thinkin I may make my own campaign, but unsure if I can. I've homebrewed plenty of encounters for oneshots, but IDK, a whole campaign scares me

[gleaming swan]

Cool

[iron ibex]

Best movies if I like dnd or want to get into dnd vibe?

[glad arch]

I like the dnd movie

[vale sage]

Also same

[glad arch]

Honor among thieves

[iron ibex]

The 2023 one?

[gleaming swan]

I say any movie with a group of protagonists, look at them as dnd players and see what sticks.

[kind bramble]

it's definitely recommended. really fun

[vale sage]

Does any one guide me to play properly and like the master in DND... I have a dream i want to play like a pro player

I'm beginner

[stuck shuttle]

Welcome! A great place to start is #learn-to-play which has a link to the free Basic Rules and #dnd-newcomers which has a bunch of helpful people that can answer any questions you might have

[gleaming swan]

This is basically one big game of imagination

[vale sage]

Aight

[gleaming swan]

we play pretend, and use math and made up rulings just so we don't argue over who beats who

[rough basalt]

It sounds a lot harder than it is.

A lot of the difficulty is honestly mental, and usually self-inflicted.

Like my first campaign which was my worst, be open to that probability, just means the only way you can go is up from there.
I overworked myself doing way too prep when I should've just planned for session 1.

[brave quest]

Hello

[gleaming swan]

Only way to learn is to fail, right?

[rough basalt]

Pretty much

DMing is like any skill. You can read guides, watch videos, but ultimately you can only improve by doing.

[gleaming swan]

Well I'mma be brewin, till then I might be goin to fight pirates. Found a game.

Thanks man

[rough basalt]

Most important part is just finding what kinda game you wanna run, then find people who wanna play that

[undone rain]

I have one of the best blessings of all time. I can come up with lore for ocs and characters just like that aslong as im well informed on the world

[rough basalt]

Like I enjoy running games influenced by players decisions ingame and out of game.

Like if some player is theorizing there might be a mimic later in the dungeon above table and they sound kinda excited, then boom, door mimic.

Only sometimes tho

More often it's social related

Like I had a random blacksmith become a core npc cause they thought she was their patrons wife and I thought it'd be funny

Like for the most part, my current campaign I don't really prep anymore

[bronze fable]

I lowk have zero idea of how to join a dnd game

I just joined the server

[rough basalt]

Tho that's mainly cause I did so much initial prep, if I were doing something more story focused, I'd be prepping session by session.

[undone rain]

#find-a-game perhaps this could help

[rough basalt]

Sorry I'm ranting now, but point is.
You find what you enjoy cause dming is a passion project.

[bronze fable]

Kk ty

[gleaming swan]

Kay!

[undone rain]

Oh boy my hexblood wizards gonna be fun

[knotty vine]

Hello chat

[bronze fable]

Nice pfp btw

[gleaming swan]

BTW, is this a channel for talkin about the oneshot's I've made? ooooor do I need to swap?

[stuck shuttle]

#dm-discussion would likely be a better place

[gleaming swan]

thx

[inner cedar]

Hello everyone it's been awhile since I talked here

[rough basalt]

Thanks

[grim fjord]

Henlo

[mellow mesa]

Hey, I’ve been getting back into my “nerdy” side of you want to call it that. But I’ve been getting into DnD and Pokemon a lot more and have been wondering if there was a Pokemon DnD

[rough basalt]

There's a Pokemon ttrpg if you want something that replicates the game faithfully.

However if you just want to adventure and roleplay, there is a 5e hack.

[mellow mesa]

I played a Star Wars one before is there a Pokemon version like that? Or was that like an actual partnership thing?

[odd swift]

For sure I’ll dm u

[undone rain]

Ok now i understand why bladesingers dont have medium armor prof. That is extremely powerful

[fast latch]

There was one but it got shut down by WoTC and TPC

[feral fulcrum]

WOTC has never partnered with Pokemon in an official manner for D&D

[fast latch]

I wish they did, though

My former hyperfixation and my current hyperfixation

[mellow mesa]

Dang. So I’d have to make a homebrew kinda thing?

[minor cargo]

Up above, Sora mentioned there's a Pokemon 5E hack. There's also several Pokemon fanmade TTRPGs out there. You have options for sure. ✌️

[rough basalt]

Keep in mind if you're looking to emulate the game itself it wont do the trick

[fast latch]

I don’t envy you

There are One Thousand And Fifteen Pokemon, and that’s a lot of stat blocks

Even if you’re sticking to Kanto, that’s still One Hundred And Fifty-One

[rough basalt]

its mainly to capture the vibes of pokemon with something people know how to play

[mellow mesa]

Google Sheets would be golden for it. Might take years but it’s possible

[rough basalt]

id just either check out the hack or the pokemon ttrpg first

[mellow mesa]

Alright. I’ll take a look to see how it is. Thank you

[minor cargo]

I don't know if I agree with that. We played pokeymanz and it was really great. You build a trainer and build a signature pokemon. And then you pick a move sent - and it's built on a pretty generic ruleset.

Of course, it's not 5E D&D at all. I honestly don't think 5E is the right system for Pokemon.

[rough basalt]

Im just going off what i know exists, never heard of pokeymanz

[feral fulcrum]

There's almost always a better system for Non D&D things, then 5E. Not that it ever stops people from trying to bend 5E into increasingly weird and ill fitting shapes. I blame WOTC Marketing 5E to the point it's considered like the generic default TTRPG. It's like the Band-aid/Google/Kleenex of TTRPGs.

[mellow mesa]

It’s not really that I want a DnD pokemon it’s more that I want a fantasy pokemon game that is somewhat controlled instead of having to stare at a screen and grind battles. I’d rather have human interaction and not 50 rattatas

[minor cargo]

If we want to keep talking about it, it's probably best to go to #non-dnd-topics, but I'll add this Reddit thread that talks about several fan-made TTRPGs for Pokemon. Because there's so many, you'll need to figure out what sort of experience you want (more narrative, more "crunchy", etc.).

Hope that helps. Best of luck! https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTabletop/comments/1hqldtl/how_many_pokemon_ttrpg_system_are_there/

[mellow mesa]

Alright thank you! Didn’t know what chat to ask it in

[junior rampart]

Hey I was wondering if anyone knows the good-ist goody two shoes cleric subclass with high healing?

[reef talon]

I mean probably Peace Cleric right?

[junior rampart]

Alright thank you

[reef talon]

:D

[wild osprey]

Hi guys, as someone who has never played DND but would like to start where should I start?

[idle oar]

#learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers are a good place to start

[cosmic roost]

Welcome to Adventure!

Visit #learn-to-play for everything you need to get started!

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[wild osprey]

Thank you so so much 🙏

[reef talon]

Okay so let's say that I wanted to make a armorer artificer... and let's say I wanted them to just throw hands, right?

:3

Just absolutely deck enemies in the face.

Maybe a rocket punch.

[steep cairn]

Wsg dudes and dudettes

[reef talon]

Wsg?

[stuck shuttle]

You’d probably like the guardian model for armorer

[reef talon]

YESSSSS

Why do they not count as unarmed attacks though that's dumb :(

I mean it's literally just a metal hand giving a punch.

[odd swift]

whats good brother

[idle oar]

Because game mechanics and abstraction... 🤷

[turbid vessel]

i see no reason you couldn't flavor it as such

armorer artificer is probably one of the easier subclasses to reflavor into punches

[potent mountain]

Ive... done that before

im trying to remember how

[fast latch]

Ask your DM

[tropic walrus]

i am using the new artificer class we need a way to pick if we don or dof the armor

[reef talon]

Don't have a game yet, just making it for fun.

[worn lagoon]

sorta, you still would rather have consistently high ac over ac tied to a daily resource

you don't know how many encounters a day it will be

[hidden spindle]

What?

[feral fulcrum]

I'm not really sure what you're asking here. There's only one Artificer subclass that has anything to specifficaly do with armor, and the answer to "Do I wear the armor or not?" Is typically Yes? Anyone with an armor profficiency and no features like Unarmored Defense will probably want to be wearing armor.

[knotty vine]

What do y’all think about hideous laughter

[feral fulcrum]

It annoys casters. And is also quite good against anything that doesn't have super good Wisdom Saves. Incapacitated is basically taking everything out of a fight.

[knotty vine]

I’m hearing good things

[feral fulcrum]

Mind you it is only a single target, and concentration, so it will fall off at higher levels pretty quick when you start getting AOE control spells.

But it will never not be a bad choice to have it in your back pocket.

[potent mountain]

almost took it as a spell as a bard but i prefered options like "Heat metal"

it seems enticing... i feel like theres just better options in its field

[knotty vine]

Heat metal is an amazing spell

[feral fulcrum]

At first level, as a "If you fail the save your'e out of the fight" Control spell, I don't think it has an equal aside from something like Sleep at low levels.

However sleep gets next to useless at later levels, while Tasha's laughter does not.

Because Sleep cares about HP (Unless 2024 changed that), which bloats like crazy

[knotty vine]

Yeah the new sleep is a saving throw now

[feral fulcrum]

Then Sleep might compete pretty hard for it, as It's proabbly still multi-target.

[knotty vine]

But creatures that don’t sleep or are immune to exhaustion are immune to the save

Meaning it can’t effect thri kreens now

[potent mountain]

oh yeah yall, could i get feedback on my bard spell list?

[lavish flame]

You don and doff the armor the regular way. If its your Arcane Armor, then you get to don or doff it as an action instead of the normal time for the armor.

[feral fulcrum]

best to ask those questions on #character-discussion

[potent mountain]

my mistake original gangster

[feral fulcrum]

No worries, the mods are just veeeeery particular about where certain things go.

[potent mountain]

So i've heard.

thank you for saving me from the wrath of the law

[idle oar]

please note it's also against server rules to discuss moderation outside of private thread in #moderator-support

Moving on

[jaunty thistle]

Im laughing at the stupidity of myself. I am a new DM and all. Doing a homebrew campaign, EXP for level up.

My players are joking about being Murderhobos. I told em, if they're murderhobos to the right people (aka, the evil people), they'll get rewards that can and will be ironic.

Example I gave is the staff of Wakus Bonkus and give it to the party's pacifist healer. The staff, to use it, you must whack whomever you wanna heal with it. The harder you hit em, the more they get healed.

[potent mountain]

my mistake

[idle oar]

Nice! Hope your group is having fun!

[jaunty thistle]

Our session zero is Tuesday actually!

[potent mountain]

ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting.

[idle oar]

As long as folks are having fun, you're doing D&D just fine!

[jaunty thistle]

I gave them pretty free creative liberty when creating their characters, and the campaign is a darker themed campaign. (Includes somewhat touchy subjects like racism, but between species, like kobolds and humans. I even threw in the term "Scaleism" where say a red Kobold and Blue Kobold hate each other believing their own scales are superior.)

Though we have a gryphon that is more akin to an arakocra. Though, at the start, each of them are injured, like the gryphon having a wing broken type thing. (Cause ik, flying at litterally level 1 can be very OP.)

[potent mountain]

i think fictional race racism is realistic (also a bit funny)

[idle oar]

Let's be careful here - our games echo real life and our server rules do cover fantasy racism.

Let's keep it general and not get much more into the fantasy racism or else we'll need to moderate it.

Thanks!

[potent mountain]

i did not see it in the rules, my bad

[jaunty thistle]

Of course. I wasnt going to really get into anyways.

[idle oar]

Appreciate it!

[jaunty thistle]

The one island in the campaign does have 2 species who work in tandem though! Humans and arakocra. Its a farming island. Basically humans do the farm work and land defense, arakocra fly the harvest to the mainland to sell it and protect the skies.

They do have a major port on the northern side, but thats basically in case they get any specialized guests like kings, queens, etc.