dnd-discussion

[potent vector]

It's 2014 rules

[severe rampart]

Be a brony

[potent vector]

But easily translated

[limpid heath]

I guess I’ll just leave yall alone

[jolly crypt]

Where in the DMG?

[naive cedar]

I was an mlp fan before it was cool okay (I was a little girl)

[tropic plank]

There are lances, and I believe Fighters have a horseback subclass

[severe rampart]

Sorry, meant to reply to you, #dnd-newcomers can help you understand the rules of the game, and any questions you might have

[naive cedar]

Could a pegasus mount work?

[potent vector]

Not DMG, it's another book, I'm forgetting the name, let me find the source rq before I summarize it

[limpid heath]

I just came here mainly to learn about learn about lore so I can make my own fantasy universe

[tropic plank]

Pegasus is indeed a species in the game, and a horse

[severe rampart]

Find Steed(?)

[severe rampart]

#dnd-lore is perfect for you then?

[limpid heath]

uh ok

[naive cedar]

To clarify, Im aware: I mean would the flying part be unfair

[jolly crypt]

Probably not super well for a pegasus mount though. Mounted combat is a little underutilized as far as official content goes

[severe rampart]

it's not that active so yk...

[naive cedar]

Ig i'd have to homebrew a bit

[tropic plank]

Is it more or less unfair than the restriction that you’re going to be mostly useless outside of horseback combat (which DnD is obviously famous for having a large amount of)

[naive cedar]

True i just like the pegasus knight Aura

[jolly crypt]

Well! Flying and its power can really vary depending on who you ask. I personally think it’s kind of overrated but

[naive cedar]

ig if aasimar's are allowed theres no reason pegasi mounts wouldnt be

[tropic plank]

Isn’t it obvious the second D in DND stands for horse

[severe rampart]

Yeah, I love my Dhorse

[naive cedar]

I thought it stood for dodo birds

[tropic plank]

I mean the big scaley fire breathing horses are in every dam promo image

[naive cedar]

i know you're joking but im pretty sure most of the 1e dragon monster manual art was just traced from horses

[tropic plank]

Of course I’m joking
Horses don’t have scales

[naive cedar]

They don't? 😱

[jolly crypt]

On Dragons— Wyvern Knights are definitely the Drakewardens though.

[tropic plank]

Nope
I’m 99% certain they can breath fire though

[potent vector]

@jolly crypt Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen

[naive cedar]

That is true. I have personally witnessed a horse breathe fire

[woven flint]

My robots been downed!
I'm emotionally devastated 😭
I can repair him though :>

[tropic plank]

Upgrade him with the flesh of your enemies

[potent vector]

That book has smth called The Fray, which is a scaling tide of combatants that act as difficult terrain, and there are rules for Commander abilities

[tropic plank]

Turn him into a real boy, not a puppet with a big nose

[woven flint]

His name Is S.A.K.R (Super Ass-Kicking Robot)

[tropic plank]

Sacker
Does he also manage severance for employees of businesses

[woven flint]

I know S.K.A.R was there, but that was too edgy for my character lol

[woven flint]

No, but he's killed a majority of our enemies over the course of the campaign

[tropic plank]

-# super kicking ass robot?

[woven flint]

No
Super Kick-Ass Robot

[tropic plank]

I prefer the interpretation where it’s a terrible robot with great calves

[woven flint]

He looks like the Robot from Star Wars that says "Congratulations, You're being rescued! Do not resist!"

[vale sage]

What's y’all favorite type of custom class?

[hushed mason]

The non-custom kind.

[tropic plank]

The funny ones

Like ‘commoner’ as a class
Subclasses of farmer, miner and hunter

[remote wadi]

Update for my character

[limpid heath]

lmao I just got asked if my character likes femboys

[tropic plank]

Top ten non sequiturs of all time

[remote wadi]

Starting to realize having 4 resistances and bumping it up to 9 for a reaction and a spell slot will be quite interesting

[limpid heath]

and the answer is no

[vale sage]

Bummer.

[limpid heath]

she only likes girls, not guys

but it’s not limited to cis girls thankfully

anyway that’s not a topic I should probably discuss here

[vale sage]

It's a slippery slope.

[tropic plank]

Is there any other kind of slope

[remote wadi]

Probably best to avoid the slippery slope

[limpid heath]

I’m probably not making a good first impression

[vale sage]

My character died in a slippery slope.

[remote wadi]

By the way, I heard a story in DnD last night

[cinder timber]

Hello fellow dnders

[vale sage]

You're fine.

[vale sage]

What about?

[remote wadi]

Character making a deal with a fey. Curing his mother of a sickness and being in significantly better health in return for his first child

Contract was made, what do you think the guy said to the fey?

[tropic plank]

Who does
Just Reroll with inspiration

[limpid heath]

I kind of get what your saying

[tropic plank]

Oh, this one

[vale sage]

He wants to make the child with the fey.

[limpid heath]

I actually have a dnd dice somewhere but not with me

[remote wadi]

"When do we start?"

[limpid heath]

does a higher number mean better?

[remote wadi]

But seriously. It would be a nice way to blend humor with turning the tables

And a contract turning into how your 2 loving parents came to be

That's honestly the level of romance I enjoy. Light hearted and enjoyable, but not dipping into full on lust

Which, personal take, when that gets too frequent, is mega cringe

[vale sage]

Seriously when does a higher number mean worse in D&D 🤔

[remote wadi]

Someone made a perception check for an NPC passing by. Number = gp stolen

[atomic kayak]

Any damage or attacks against you

[vale sage]

Y’all got me there.

[remote wadi]

Although probably not a perception check, more like a d20

[limpid heath]

I rolled a 20

[vale sage]

Does d in d20 just mean dice? I never understood that.

[remote wadi]

Speaking of, I don't think you were here before. But something tells me my character will be much harder to kill

[fossil hollow]

its notation

[remote wadi]

Sides of the dice. So a maul for 2d6 damage means you are rolling 2 6 sided dice

But I digress. The TLDR is

[vale sage]

Here we go.

[remote wadi]

I'm making a great defensive combination of Cunning Action, Absorb Elements, and being a vampire spawn for my Ranger/Rogue

4 resistances if I don't make a huge blunder, 5 others using a reaction and 1st level spell, and being able to Disengage as a BA alongside Dodging as an action

[potent vector]

All this when you could just take Epic Boon of Night and invalidate all that smh /j

[remote wadi]

Would have been fun. But hey, what i said above is available at level 7

And when I hit level 10, I can use reactions to halve incoming damage on attacks. And if it's BPS, that means I'm only taking a quarter of the damage

[wraith trout]

Hey guys… I’ve never played so I was wondering if someone can do a session for me

[remote wadi]

Besides, module is level 11 max

[fossil hollow]

feel free to check out #dnd-newcomers and #find-a-game

[potent vector]

Ik, why I said /j

[umbral girder]

Rolling random magic items for a shop

Because then you end up with only 500k+ go items you can’t buy

[woven flint]

My robot is okay
I survived the Combat with 3 Hp

Life is good.
The balance is maintained

[umbral girder]

Magic missile

[woven flint]

My characters arm was ripped off...
But it was his modular mechanical one that he can just reattach lol

[glass granite]

I would’ve taken his arm and when giving it back to him say “Need a hand?”

[woven flint]

Nah, he ripped it out of the worms mouth that bit it off and blew its head schmoove off with his plasma caster lol

[glass granite]

Is he a monk? Seems pretty proficient in unarmed combat.

[woven flint]

No..
This is Starfinder 2e, he's a Mechanic lol

I know its offtopic, but its been a while since the group has been able to play together,
He,Himself is a Ysoki/Ratfolk

[still bolt]

it's probably fiiiine :3 , ,, , tthough, people here don't really like emotions besides like, , , passive aggressiveness, and it's a corpo server so you tend to have to watch what you say closely or else , , , ,

[knotty pasture]

Praise Bhaal

[hushed mason]

I once sang the praises of Baal. There are three choruses to Baal in the oratorio Elijah.

[fair nebula]

I'm looking for opinions from DMs that are experienced in multiple tiers of play: what would you say are the best levels for enemy diversity? I'm looking to make a 10-15 ish session campaign where my players see a bit of everything due to an in-universe reason

[umbral girder]

20 because you could use any of the monsters but in increasing quantities the lower Cr they are

Also high Cr leader NPCs mix well with tons of low level dudes

[mighty wigeon]

hey, where can I post a story for my campaign and get some info on it?

[fair nebula]

They're not terribly experienced so I fear throwing them at level 20

[umbral girder]

Ah if they aren’t that experienced start at level 5 then build to level 10

Majority of DnD’s monsters are in that range anyway.

Basically the 4 tiers of the game are good to measure the type of story you want to tell

With the right magic items you could pull off an Adult dragon boss battle

[fair nebula]

Sounds good, kind of exactly what I was striving for as a climax for one of the areas

[severe rampart]

What was the lowest CR monster y'all have ever died to?

[remote wadi]

What would natural causes be? Or yourself?

[fair summit]

Adult Red Dragon
In fairness, only one of my characters has ever died so far lol

[crimson gulch]

I killed a player with a bandit

[woven flint]

Three of my characters have died

Two died to a Lich or
One Died killing a Lich, the other died defending the group from a Lich so they could escape the Shadowfell

And my other fella was killed, but then revivied because the 'Evil" guys thought they could recruit him to their cause

[hushed mason]

Only one of my characters as died, as far as I can recall. It was my first one. When I joined the game, the other players killed off my character because her Charisma score was low. This was high school. Boys are stupid.

[woven flint]

... Huh...

[fair summit]

One of my players did die to a CR 1/8 Guard, though in fairness they were pretty frail warlock at level 1 😛

[glass granite]

My character died to a holy hand grenade

[hushed mason]

They didn't want to play with me, a girl.

[glass granite]

Well, dodged a bullet there

[hushed mason]

Yes, but it still sucked.

[glass granite]

Indeed

[hushed mason]

It was a very long time ago, thankfully.

[woven flint]

We'll find them and fight them /joking

[lavish flame]

Kenku (CR 1/4)

[small heath]

?tag new druid

[cosmic roost]

Druid

Channel nature magic to heal, shape-shift, and control the elements
Druids belong to ancient orders that call on the forces of nature. Harnessing the magic of animals, plants, and the four elements, Druids heal, transform into animals, and wield elemental destruction.

-# Suggested Standard Array assignment
Str. 8 Dex. 12 Con. 14 Int. 13 Wis. 15 Cha. 10

Likes: Nature
Complexity: High
Starting HP: 8 + Con. modifier

[burnt valley]

how tf, what level?

[warped surge]

My campaign prep document is now 41 pages for the next adventure and counting...

I am way too thorough

[timber junco]

One of my buddies is attempting to use true strike on a shortbow. Does anyone on here have the appropriate custom weapon boolean logic lines to make a custom weapon to reflect the change in stats appropriately?

Weve been trying for a while now and havent been successful yet

[livid echo]

Does anyone know what DnD realm Xynthis is? Or is it a homebrewed setting most likely? I am joining a campaign this Sunday called Xynthis (your story) and have never heard of Xynthis before

[fossil hollow]

most likely homebrew

[livid echo]

Kk Ty

[regal finch]

hi everybody! in a campaign with a newer DM and we're noticing a problem very quickly where one player is very strong (has a very high AC and pretty high hp) and most of the other players have much lower AC and hitpoints. we're all level 1 atm and until level 3 this will probably be a problem, does anyone have any suggestions on ways to help mitigate this problem?

[lavish flame]

first, verify that you're all following the game's rules. Have you done HP and AC calculations like how the game wants you to? Whats the player's Class and how much is their HP and AC?

If its like "Our Paladin has an AC of 19 and 12 HP while we only have 14 AC and 9 HP" then thats fully expected

[knotty pasture]

At level 1, no one's hp/ac should be overwhelmingly high unless they cheated or it was rolled stats

[regal finch]

yeah hes a paladin

[regal finch]

its not overwhelmingly high period its just high compared to the rest of us

[fossil hollow]

whats the other classes and their Constitutions

[knotty pasture]

Oh yeah that's normal in that case, more context would be nice though

[regal finch]

im not sure about everyone but we have a few martial classes and it looks like the average hp is about 10-15~ish

[lavish flame]

With Chainmail and a Shield and the Defense Fighting Style, Paladins can get a pretty high Armor Class. They're designed to absorb attacks for the group.

[regal finch]

hes got 20 ac and 12 hp atm

[fossil hollow]

12 hp is average

[regal finch]

the 20 ac is not

[fossil hollow]

20 ac is interesting though indeed

youd have to be warforge on top of gwyn's reccomendation to get there

[lavish flame]

Yeah, 19 is regular. (Chainmail+Shield+Defense Fighting Style) 20 is a little interesting

[regal finch]

hes a plasmoid

idk what weird nonsense hes got going on with the dm 😭

[fossil hollow]

have you tried talking and asking the player an dm about it

[knotty pasture]

Yeah it should be 19 AC, still v high but that's heavy armor lol

[regal finch]

we're in the middle of a discussion about it rn actually

[regal finch]

hes got plate apparently, not chain

[lavish flame]

Ask them how they calculated that AC. Like step-by-step, how did they go from 10 AC (unarmored) to 20 via their build

[fossil hollow]

ok, starting plate is interesting

[lavish flame]

oh damn he's got plate? thats easy then. Plate+Shield=20AC

[knotty pasture]

?? That's insane for a starting item

You're absolutely stacked with money to start with Plate lol

[fossil hollow]

family heirloom off the bat

[lavish flame]

yeah what happened in his backstory? family go bankrupt buying that?

[regal finch]

nah its just the characters gimmick, the character is a plasmoid running around in armor thats effectively kind of a roomba type shape (the guy is a shitposter and my dm thought it was funny) and they decided it should be plate

[cinder timber]

Have you guys ever used AI to make you a battlemap? Can it do that?

[regal finch]

get out bruh 😭

[cinder timber]

Wat

[knotty pasture]

Yeah idk man a plate's like 1500 gp, that's enough money to fund like 4 standard parties

[fossil hollow]

*1800

[fossil hollow]

no and no

[lavish flame]

Truth be told, I've tried to use it to do something as simple as upscaling a battlemap's resolution, and it truly failed to do so while retaining the visible map features (cover, elevation changes, light/darkness, the grid) needed for the game.

[cinder timber]

Thanks Ti. I was curious since ive heard people use it for ideas (tragic), but I never heard it mentioned for maps.

[regal finch]

"hello people who have fun through the majesty of human creativity and ingenuity, have you ever had a clanker ruin the planet so you dont have to open up one of the countless programs that helps you do what i want it to do?"

[knotty pasture]

Did they increase Plate cost in 2024

[fossil hollow]

ai in general is not going to help you

[cinder timber]

Thanks CaseOh. I was just curious, dang.

[fossil hollow]

is it not generally 1800?

[lavish flame]

no, still 1500

[knotty pasture]

My sources say 1500

[wide pumice]

I'm interested in making your characters. Can we chat over dm?

[knotty pasture]

I thought it was silent nerfed by having its price increased

[fossil hollow]

... why do i think its 1800... which of my dms scammed me

[cinder timber]

I was just inquiring on the matter. I don't use AI.

[cinder timber]

How are you Ti? How is ur dragonlance game?

[fossil hollow]

doing pretty good. dragonlance is going strong.

running i think almost 7 campaigns now

[cinder timber]

How do you prep so many games? 😭

[fossil hollow]

• SKT: ragnarok
• titanic upheaval
• waterdeep menaces
• elemental succession
• dragonlance
• descent into avernus

[fossil hollow]

4/6 are modules

i would have not survived writing 6 campaigns at a time

[cinder timber]

Even two is kinda crazy

I have a dilemma in dnd rn

[vale sage]

What is it?

[next citrus]

Hi

[lavish flame]

howdy

[upbeat light]

Does anyone know if there is more games like Balders Gate in works right now?

[burnt valley]

Who is avernus and why is everyone trying to descend into them?

[fossil hollow]

gotta pick up zariel from another day of killing demons

[wide pumice]

Hello

How are you doing?

[rough basalt]

Solasta 2, but it's not gonna be Baldurs Gate.

[lavish flame]

We have no official word, but its safe to assume something is somewhere in preproduction rn. We have some other D&D games in the pipeline (notably Warlock which seems to be an action/adventure game) as well.

[rough basalt]

It's gonna be 5e24.

[upbeat light]

I will check that out, thankyou❤️‍🔥

[rough basalt]

It's not out yet, I don't think

There is Solasta 1 which uses 5e14

[upbeat light]

I think I have seen Warlock been advertised somewhere, might aswell take a looksie, thankyou❤️‍🔥

[remote wadi]

Might consider getting it when I get a better PC/Steam Machine

[rough basalt]

It's not a Baldurs gate level game but it's solid for getting a dnd fix that's more accurate to the tabletop itself

[remote wadi]

Although probably my biggest issue with games like those is that I find it really hard to get into without friends

[rough basalt]

Warlock is an interesting one

[burnt valley]

I wish there was a dnd game that allowed to go up to Lvl 20

[lavish flame]

I kinda feel exactly the opposite. Its impossible for me to get into BG3 when playing multiplayer

[fossil hollow]

i got two games that might reach level 20 in a few months

[rough basalt]

Cause the company behind it was the company that made DnDs worst game of the decade so far, however, they fired most of the people involved with that so clean slate means it might be good

[upbeat light]

A shame💔

[rough basalt]

Honestly it's best to take dnd games with a grain of salt

You have your Baldurs Gates, Neverwinter Nights, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale

[lavish flame]

yeah, for the most part D&D games are kinda stinkers

[rough basalt]

Then you have a very long history of games you likely never heard of, with a lot of them being bad

[fossil hollow]

or just a bit older (planescape)

[lavish flame]

who wants to play Dungeon Hack guys!!!

[fossil hollow]

good, incubus isnt here rn

[rough basalt]

DnD games are usually either knock out of the park or go to life in game prison

[upbeat light]

I mean if I could get the devs behind Balders Gate 3 to be the leading game creators for us I would be very expecting cause I loved that game

[rough basalt]

Nah that was never gonna happen, even if WotC and Larian had kept a decent relationship

[burnt valley]

Im tweaking for a Tier 4 campaign

[rough basalt]

Cause Larian wanted to go back to their own IP.

[fossil hollow]

oh yeah, do we hav anything on devil deals?

[lavish flame]

devil deals?

Baldur's Gate: Descent Into Avernus has an appendix on it

[fossil hollow]

aha

[rough basalt]

I am hoping Warlock is solid

[upbeat light]

Me too

[rough basalt]

I imagine it will get some flak even if it is tho

Cause I'm afraid Hasbro is gonna expect BG3 level success out of all the game projects currently in the works.

[lavish flame]

I have this hope that Warlock plays like the old God of War games. Like a 3d beat-em-up. Thats my dream, but I think itll prolly be an okay soulslike

[rough basalt]

Probably.
Soulslikes are the trend for those kinds of games rn

[lavish flame]

While I love those games (see: my name) I do wish they didn't replace the Adventure Game genre

[rough basalt]

Yeah it's getting tired

They're kinda like the zombie games of the 2020s imo

Back in late 2000s to mid 2010s when there was a bunch of Zombie IPs including big games with notable zombie minigames

[lavish flame]

sure is getting ominous in here

[fossil hollow]

ok, is anyone else seeing like, nothing in the message

[rough basalt]

If Warlock is a decent beatem up, I could see myself buying jt

[lavish flame]

ye

[fossil hollow]

like, its just blank

[rough basalt]

If it's a soulslike it's gotta be good at least

Anyways, on a dnd note.
I need more dnd

[limber trail]

Never enough dnd

[fossil hollow]

looking through CoA rn.... there are so many artifacts

[fossil hollow]

i need more waterdeep rn

[limber trail]

Session rn

[fossil hollow]

boooo

[limber trail]

No you should run a session rn

[fossil hollow]

oh lmao. its 12 32

[limber trail]

Shame

Session is only a week away anyways

[fossil hollow]

true... more time to torture you all with Fiendish Inspiration

[limber trail]

I’m innocent

I didn’t get in on that

[fossil hollow]

for now... but the offer remains for all of Artanza's friends

[limber trail]

Absolutely not I have just enough wisdom to know that’s a bad deal

There’s only one devil Hokrun is interested in a deal with

[fossil hollow]

a dashing (cajun accented), dazzling and disguised drow?

[limber trail]

That’s the one

J.B. Nevercott my goat

[zinc hare]

2nd last session done the players loved it but are very sad

The bbeg is forcing them to fight their dragon friend/patron to the death after making him insane

It gonna be a sad session next week

[remote wadi]

They made him insane?

[zinc hare]

Pumped him up with a drug that put him in a frenzy

[remote wadi]

With all due respect, how is this a sad thing?

[knotty pasture]

It is a dragon friend/patron after all

[remote wadi]

That they turned into basically a drug addict >_>

[lavish flame]

the villain did that

you misread it. the villain made their dragon friend crazy so they have to fight their dragon friend

[remote wadi]

Wait, so it was the villain that drugged them up?

Wonder if they can non lethal their way out of this one

[glass granite]

I see no reason why not

As long as they’re strong enough, of course

[remote wadi]

Forcing them to fight to the death

So, might result in BBEG killing them off anyways, but worth a shot

Less guilty conscience, no blood on their hands

[lost flicker]

are there any examples of 2025 statblocks that inflict weapon mastery effects like vex or topple?

[odd patrol]

WAIT GUYS
if i cast shadow blade to make a shadow blade
and then use pact of the blade to bond it
does my shadow blade count as a pact weapon

cause the description of the spell itself states that its a "magic sword" which counts as a "simple melee weapon with which you are proficient"

a magic sword that is a simple melee weapon

should logically count as a magic weapon

so i can make a bond with it

[ashen orchid]

Bro is cooking

[loud tendon]

I think the shadow blade only last for 1min and it takes an hour to bond with a magic weapon for Pact of the Blade, so I don't think you could do that

[glass granite]

I was gonna say, your blade would run out long before you can bond with it

[remote wadi]

Hmmmm

[odd patrol]

in 2024 rules, bonding with a magic weapon takes 1 bonus action.

[remote wadi]

If i were to make Doofenshmirtz as an Artificer, what subclass would he be?

[loud tendon]

that is true.. I shouldn't assume editions I suppose. But thespell shadow blade still requires concentration and the blade would still go away in 1 minute, right?

[tranquil mango]

Not only for the record but for posterity sake 😀 we just finished our intro session and every character survived 😮 😆

[odd patrol]

bonding with it doesnt use concentration'

[loud tendon]

but is shadow blade not a concentration spell?

[odd patrol]

also id assume by the wording i could like resummon it with a bonus action with the conjure pact of the blade

[glass granite]

It would take over a turn to do, but I don’t see any issue with it so far

Granted, not 100% sure it’s a magic weapon, so imma have to check

[odd patrol]

it is, but the sword itself is just a magical sword which i could bond and reconjure with pact of the blade
also @glass granite , what if i just say that my character will resummon it every minute as the weapon that it is using pact of the blade, even outside of combat

[glass granite]

The spell would run out after combat, it would no longer exist

You’d effectively be summoning nothing

[odd patrol]

wait, the spell lasts 1 minute concentration, and it says the sword will be gone when the spell ends, but it never says what happens if i summon it in another way

[loud tendon]

the spell calls it a "magic sword" but also calls it a simple melee weapon, so I think it would be ok. I'm just not sure what the benefit of bonding with it is

[glass granite]

The sword disappears, what else do you expect?

[odd patrol]

it means i can use cha for its attack rollls and damage rolls
@glass granite the spell doesnt exist, and i conjured it, so the spell cannot end to get rid of it, but i have it

[glass granite]

The weapon no longer exists, summoning it wouldn’t do anything.

[loud tendon]

file not found.. 404 Pact Error

[odd patrol]

pact of the blade says that it conjures it, and typically conjure means "create from nothing" and not "summon from somewhere else"

[glass granite]

It can conjure a weapon OR bond with a magic weapon

[odd patrol]

if it aint against the rules explicitly it works

[glass granite]

“As a Bonus Action, you can conjure a pact weapon in your hand—a Simple or Martial Melee weapon of your choice with which you bond—or create a bond with a magic weapon you touch”
Nothing here says you can conjure the magic weapon again

[loud tendon]

the spell specifically states the weapon disappears after 1 minute. In D&D usually a specific rule beats a generic one.
So while you can summon it and bond to it over 2 rounds, It would still only last for 1 minute with concentration.

A DM could fiat it I guess, but allowing a player to keep a spell forever seems very broken. Unless you want to concentrate on one spell forever, and every time you sleep you'd drop concentration anyway.

But using the Pact to up your ability to hit and dish out a little more damage is a cool use. I support that

[odd patrol]

it says it lasts until the spell ends, not specifically one minute

[glass granite]

The spell ends in one minute

[loud tendon]

"Duration
Concentration 1 Minute" that is the length of the spell.

[lilac cliff]

guys our cleric is getting to 30 ac solo

[glass granite]

With our without the shield spell?

[lilac cliff]

no

without

[glass granite]

Well that’s mildly concerning. How?

Off to the top of my head I can’t break 27

[odd patrol]

back to fighter it is

[glass granite]

Unless it’s high rarity magic items

[lilac cliff]

sheild of faith + heavy armour and a +1 to ac when below half hp

[glass granite]

That’s still, at best, 23 assuming no magic items

[odd patrol]

yea'

[glass granite]

Assuming a shield is equipped

[odd patrol]

sof cant be upcasted

[lilac cliff]

yeah i dont fully know how tbh

were using foundry

[glass granite]

Ask them. If they can’t explain it, then you might wanna look deeper into this.

[odd patrol]

should i just run a custom lineage fighter with gwm and pam using a glaive

thatll work quite easily

[lilac cliff]

i trust him

[glass granite]

Sure, that sounds fun.

[glass granite]

Less so trust and more so I’m hella curious

[odd patrol]

how i feel at second level after obliterating 3 of the enemies my group was struggling to kill even one of in a reaction a action and a bonus action

[glass granite]

If there’s a power imbalance, i recommend working with your DM and party to counteract that

Unless of course it works for your table

[lilac cliff]

oh trust even with this one of us is probally dying

also we are level 17

[glass granite]

In my experience though, it doesn’t always make the most fun

[loud tendon]

yeah, it has to be magical armor?

Plate is 18 just standard.. with a regular shield, +2.. so 20.
Shield of faith which is concentration but 10 mins a pop +2 and then then +1 for when they are below half health.. so yeah, 23 situationally.

where is the extra 7 coming from?

[glass granite]

What’s their species?

[odd patrol]

tbf its because the other players were busy trying to kill each other instead of the enemies and those who were trying to kill the enemies were rogues and clerics who at second level dont have much offense

like

[glass granite]

If your party is friendly firing that’s another issue entirely

[lilac cliff]

oozekin from helianas guide to monster hunting by loot tavern

life domain cleric as well if it helps

[odd patrol]

the sorcerer tried to set fire to the elf spellcaster who was on death saves
the rogue shot my fighter
the other fighter stabbed the spellcaster on death saves

[glass granite]

Tbh surprised that the DM is letting this happen

[glass granite]

I was expecting forge lol

With that AC

And I don’t have that book (third party I assume) so idk if it has AC bonuses. But I imagine not, and if yes no more than a +1

[lilac cliff]

i dont think it does

hes gatekeeping currently but ill be back if i discern how

[glass granite]

Any multiclassing?

[odd patrol]

i minmax to survive friendly fire

[pine sundial]

Yello

[glass granite]

Yeah I’m lost

[glass granite]

Gooood morning afternoon evening!

[pine sundial]

To you too

[odd patrol]

whats yalls favourite class (and subclass)

[glass granite]

Elemental warrior monk

[odd patrol]

i love the battlemaster fighter

[lilac cliff]

open palm monk purely for the 17th level feature

[sick summit]

day 4 of saying building sized cats should be a thing both irl and in dnd

[pine sundial]

I like the monk class cause it has cool implications don't know much about sub classes though

[slate pike]

yeah

[rocky halo]

Hey

Where to play dnd online

[slate pike]

what?

[lyric viper]

?tag new online

[cosmic roost]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/750-new-players-guide-how-to-play-d-d-online

[blissful dragon]

forge cleric is sword coast guide i belive old and not as popular a book but is offical

had a forge cleric npc on spelljamming crew game i was in their a pretty fun subclass

[meager fractal]

Wasn't forge in xanathars

[limber trail]

I love a good Psi Warrior fighter as far as individual subclasses go, but broadly I love Paladins

Oath of the Watchers are a fun one lore wise

[undone rain]

Ugh hate gate keepers

[twilit summit]

Guys, question: What title can the book in Forgotten realms have if it's similar to "Journey to the west"

[odd patrol]

i like battlemaster simply mechanically

[meager fractal]

Cool, good luck, but use #looking-for-players for better results

[remote wadi]

Honestly, I tend to enjoy the roleplay factor a lot

[hoary totem]

Chronurgy wizard!!!

[odd patrol]

same

[remote wadi]

If someone can give me a good build and I find myself some good source material, options are many

[hoary totem]

You get a fireball! You get a fireball! Everyone gets fireballs!

[meager fractal]

Valor bard

[odd patrol]

i love warlocks in terms of rp but i love battlemaster fighter in terms of mechanics too much

[remote wadi]

For now, I wanted to do a Gloomstalker Assassin
But didn't quite plan out to be a vampire spawn

I wonder if, in a future campaign, I could kind of make him like a version of Blade, in a sense

Just a lot more focused on sniping

[odd patrol]

im thinking of how i could make sinclair emil from limbus company in dnd

[remote wadi]

Question for chat

Between 2014 Fighter, Barbarian, and Cleric, which subclasses has good combat and roleplay connections with dark energy and how?

Think less evil powers, more necrotic

[odd patrol]

the oathbreaker paladin is pretty good necrotic powers

[remote wadi]

No. Paladin is an automatic no

[odd patrol]

what do you have against the paladins

[tawdry sentinel]

Death or grave cleric

[remote wadi]

Possible, but this is between these 3

[odd patrol]

what pieisacake said

[undone rain]

Their a what

[remote wadi]

Oathbreaker would have been very quickly chosen, but the roleplay elements would fall apart
Character I am planning isn't close to a deity, per se. But especially isn't in pursuit of an evil power

Hence why I asked among those 3 specifically

[odd patrol]

isnt cleric close to a deity

[meager fractal]

The spiritual guide barbarian would suit. Can't remember it's name

[remote wadi]

Yeah. Saw that part, so Cleric is out

[odd patrol]

between barb and fighter is hard

[glass granite]

Death or grave domain

As for fighter, Eldritch knight, or anything that kills people

[remote wadi]

Hmmm

I don't think I will get anything from Fighter, either...

[feral fulcrum]

I would suggest Undead Warlock.

[glass granite]

Zealot barbarian too
They can do necrotic damage I think

[feral fulcrum]

Also, Charecter building should really go into #character-discussion

[glass granite]

And this

[remote wadi]

Okay, new question

Which martial class and subclass would mostly likely have the obligation to avenge the fallen
As well as extend that obligation to others who openly cause suffering for many?

[meager fractal]

Ancestral guardian barbarians work well

[feral fulcrum]

That's more of a roleplay thing. You can do that with any class.

[odd patrol]

does paladin oath of vengeance count as martial

[glass granite]

I was gonna say, oath of vengeance is literally that
But also, I feel like this is #character-discussion

[remote wadi]

Insert the beaver screaming meme here

[meager fractal]

I'm wondering what a king would want from a low level party. Quest-giver wise.

[remote wadi]

But in all seriousness, it would be my pick, but I'm agreeing with Nugget that this needs to be a roleplay element

Well, Zealot does seem like a good idea. I just have a question

What exactly does it mean for bringing someone back to life, but not undeath?

[feral fulcrum]

Anything from low risk escort of a VIP, or "Go poke the spooky ruins with a stick."

[undone rain]

Like as in necromancy? Well the corpses basically arent conscious of who they are, all they do is follow the resurecters commands

If my memory serves me right

[feral fulcrum]

It's the difference between Resureccting a person and Raising a Zombie.

[remote wadi]

Being specific, a feature for Zealot is that if someone casts a spell on you that has the sole purpose of restoring you to life, material components are not needed

[feral fulcrum]

One can live a life, the other rots in your general direction, stinks to high heaven, and tries to eat you.

[meager fractal]

He's a fat lout of a king who would rather be hosting jousts, tourneys and deep in his wineskins. Basically King Robert from game of thrones but with the fantasy elements turned up. Why would he turn to the pcs for help when he has dozens of loyal knights and others to do his bidding?

[lyric viper]

I would read that as revive/raise/rez spells don't need components.
Someone animating your corpse still would.

[remote wadi]

Ahh

[glass granite]

That’s something to ask your dm, I’d say

[feral fulcrum]

Because he either needs disposable, or deniable mooks, or because everyone else is busy with important things. Or because he wants your group far, far from his Court.

[remote wadi]

Oh. This character will, hopefully, be for another campaign

[glass granite]

Still, asking for rulings like this is DM fiat oftentimes

[lyric viper]

I mean, this is quite clearly stated in the Zealot's rules.

[remote wadi]

Either way, Zealot Barbarian seems like a good starting place for my character

[lyric viper]

'Spells like raise dead'

But not 'undeath'.

So Revive/Raise/Rezz

[glass granite]

In the sense that not many PC’s would be undead

[still plover]

Dozens of knights and others? He's told one of his followers to do it. But the follower has something more important to do, so had their steward find help. "By Order of the King!" they say.

[remote wadi]

This is sort of what I mean by my favorite classes mostly being linked to roleplay elements

Unfortunately, this has the risk of it rarely being the same as the vision in my head

[feral fulcrum]

There's only one official way to become undead, and that's to be killed and raised as a Vampire, provided th DM doesn't NPC-ify you from that. And it's a barely thought out thing.

[glass granite]

Zealot barbarians do have some very nice roleplay potential, which is great

[still plover]

Obligatory "anyone can be a zealot" reminder.

[remote wadi]

Or in my case, Vampire Spawn

[feral fulcrum]

That's still a Vampire.

[remote wadi]

They can be, but the subclass does blend thematic and combat well

[remote wadi]

Considerably different things in terms of abilities

[undone rain]

Being a gith wizard seems very useful since wizards are quite squishy

[still plover]

Fighter, second wind: "my faith gives me strength!"

[feral fulcrum]

I still want to do an Undead Warlock (Pact of the tome, for gift of the protectors) with a fixation on Deathward, for 3 "If you would drop below 1 hitpoints, you don't" someday, and just go all Monty Python's Black Knight.

[remote wadi]

Honestly, I would be using Zealot for the sense of a battle cry

And the "faith" elements are intentionally small

[slate pike]

anyone in australia

[glass granite]

Hi, Aussie here

[remote wadi]

So, I had a question about campaign searching

Best advice for someone who knows what they're looking for, but rarely has the time to filter through all the posts?

[glass granite]

#looking-for-dm , probably

You tell people your preferences, and the DM comes to you

[remote wadi]

Great call. Won't let me type in chat, though

[glass granite]

Type /looking-for dm and fill out the form

[remote wadi]

In here or the channel?

[glass granite]

Here

The info is in #find-a-game , but I find dnd players can’t read so I just tell people now. Mostly.

[remote wadi]

Good to know

[obsidian zinc]

When is the next game to be expected?

[glass granite]

Could you clarify what you mean by “next game”?

[torpid patrol]

Hello guys

I am new to dnd

Can yall tell me how to play

[wanton sorrel]

make a character on D&Dbeyond

[torpid patrol]

Ok

[cosmic roost]

Welcome to Adventure!

Visit #learn-to-play for everything you need to get started!

• [What is D&D?](#learn-to-play message)
• [How does it work?](#learn-to-play message)
• [Where do I join?](#learn-to-play message)
• [Frequently Asked Questions](#learn-to-play message)

Quick Links

Basic Rules | Introductory videos | Create a character

[torpid patrol]

That's an app right?

[idle oar]

A site that also has an app - D&DBeyond is owned by D&D and provides a digital toolkit (and digital books) to help folks play D&D

[wanton sorrel]

at Glorp: no the app is still on the phone but you can still use comptuer to use D&Dbeyond I perfer D&Dbeyond because it's on mobile and computer.

[torpid patrol]

Thanks man

I am on mobile

[wanton sorrel]

that's good!

[idle oar]

Also take a look at #learn-to-play and feel free to ask specific questions in #dnd-newcomers as you run into things

Also please don't post single-character posts (including reacts/stickers/emojis) as it's disruptive to chat and can be an accessibility issue for folks (think blind/vision impaired) using text to speech tools trying to follow the discussion. Feel free to use reacts/emojis/stickers in line with text or as a react to a post as that way's it's connected to text and the context can be better understood. Thanks!

[wanton sorrel]

or they could just read #rules instead

oh and by the way... I remember the last time that scrolls was important to most of magic casters.... I looked on youtube... to figure it out... read the dungeon masters guide... and there were a lot of stuff. The thing i'm trying to figure out how much coins should i place into a treasure chest?

[silk hare]

whut?

[still plover]

I went to the Spells section in the Free Rules and did CTRL+F for scroll. Found everything about scrolls in no time.

[wanton sorrel]

well scrolls cost money... I don't know how much i should put stuff into a treasure chest.

[silk hare]

wheres the treasure chest coming from?

[wanton sorrel]

in a dungeon?

[silk hare]

oh as a dm question

[wanton sorrel]

yeah sorry

[silk hare]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#CraftingEquipment

[still plover]

Ah, right! Need the chart for magic item costs. The value will depend on the rarity of of the scroll.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/9229085-spell-scroll

[wanton sorrel]

do they put money into the scroll to make the scroll a scroll? I just don't know how does a player do that.... so the in day of inscription. like how dose a player do that part?

[narrow ferry]

Just use magic ink

[wanton sorrel]

oh wait i mean how does a scoll know it's complete.... when the matierals are consume... when does that happen?

do they have to roll arcana to complete the scroll or is it automatic?

[narrow ferry]

Not sure what you mean

1. Are you asking how to cast a spell from a scroll?

2. When a scroll is finished being made?

3. Something else

[wanton sorrel]

technically both 1 and 2

[torpid patrol]

Kosmus

[wanton sorrel]

yes?

[torpid patrol]

I made the sheet

What to do now

[idle oar]

Feel free to use #character-discussion to get feedback

[silk hare]

they need special ink that is infused with gold powder, so in order to get the material cost requirement they need to A: buy the ink and B: put gold dust into it e.g.

[idle oar]

Once you have a rough idea of the core game rules and mechanics (see sections 1 and 2 of the free basic rules linked to in pins in #dnd-newcomers) you can start looking for a group to play with.

To find a group using our Looking for Game channels, please read #find-a-game carefully.

[narrow ferry]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/magic-items/9229085-spell-scroll?srsltid=AfmBOopRxxL6FhDcGrq_TaOtPJprRvTKOLjZOUJBdD6K5VvRGEgThcrS

[wanton sorrel]

which mr. smith already gave that one to me

ok so you do have to roll a 1d20 ok ok now i get it.

[still plover]

And as to making it, no, there are no rolls: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#ScribingSpellScrolls

[wanton sorrel]

if the spell is higher right?

[still plover]

You did catch that you only have to make an Arcana check if the spell on the scroll is higher level than you can currently cast, right?

If the spell is on your spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast the spell. The DC equals 10 plus the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect.

[wanton sorrel]

ok now i get it... right

[rotund abyss]

If I go inside of the dragon and the wild shape into a dinosaur...

[still plover]

If it's within your capabilities it's just using the scroll for the free cast, rather than using one of your spell slots.

[rotund abyss]

Like a really big dinosaur

[wanton sorrel]

right

[silk hare]

then?

[still plover]

The DM will make a ruling. Most likely you'll just be ejected to the next available space, no harm done.

[silk hare]

or nto even allowed to wildshape due to spacial constraints

[rotund abyss]

If they're a fun DM they might let me Ant-Man out of it

Unfortunately I am the DM

[still plover]

Put it this way: if it were easy everyone would do it.

[rotund abyss]

Ok besides actually getting inside of the dragon, what's stopping me

[still plover]

T&Cs of wildshape don't specify anything about doing damage, or what might occur if you try to take a form in an area with insufficient space.

[rotund abyss]

Then what's stopping the DM
Of course if my Druid actually do that I'd let it, I love crazy techniques. If I meet a DM that is actively enforcing against those kinds of things i am blacklisting them from people to play with

[still plover]

Your table, your choice. Letting damage be dealt outside of listed effects is generally something I lean away from. Today's fun idea is tomorrow's tiresome exploit.

[narrow ferry]

I'd say that the spell fails, you end up shifting into a creature of the same size as yourself and type intended or you both take force damage

[wanton sorrel]

welp i think i know what book i should get next... xanathar's guide to everything

[worn lagoon]

Our cleric went totally offline and missing, so now I'm writing in-universe reason for my draconic sorcerer to turn divine soul overnight

[wraith kelp]

hello

[knotty pasture]

Turns out your Sorc's lineage is a holy dragon or something idk

[past iron]

So recently in a campaign my character did something that ended up violating his oath, and my DM changed my character sheet to be Oathbreaker. But now that I've read the subclass details, I don't think that's actually the right call.

[wanton sorrel]

DM change your chatacter sheet.... wait wut... is that even possible?

[past iron]

On D&D beyond, yes, as long as you're in their campaign link thing.

But anyway, the Oathbreaker subclass says the following: "A paladin must be evil and at least 3rd level to become an Oathbreaker."

Though my character is level 11, surpassing the level requirement, he's not evil. Yes, what he did would be considered as such, but one bad action does not instantly change one's alignment so drastically. Which means, he can't be an Oathbreaker according to RAW.

[narrow ferry]

Good case study is anakin sky walker

The younglings incident

[feral fulcrum]

Oathbreaker is also what happens if you break your Oath. You lose your Paladin subclass stuff if you don't follow your Tenets to a reasonable degree. Though some DM's ignore that.

[past iron]

By then he was evil

[worn lagoon]

It's the guy whose folly led to the dracorage. Good reason for bahamut to want to keep an eye on the descendant, ig.

[wanton sorrel]

i never knew paladins was such a hard class to play as.

[past iron]

In my case it was one bad action.

And it was pretty bad, though the context is important too

[worn lagoon]

You don't automatically end up as the oathbreaker paladin subclass for breaking your oath.

[worn lagoon]

it's the one "follow rules you chose" class

[feral fulcrum]

It's really not that hard at all. Just follow your tents which typically boil down to things like "Be charitable." "Be Bold and not cowardly.", "Follow the laws."

[wraith kelp]

hello again

[remote wadi]

Usually, what happens is that you lose your divine powers for however long

Oathbreaker is when a Paladin betrays their own oath in pursuit of an evil power

[feral fulcrum]

Generally avoid being a psychotic murderhobo and it's very difficult to lose your oath.

[wanton sorrel]

the hardest part of being a paladin is if you have to break it many times since party is chaotic evil.

[wraith kelp]

why does almost everyone have ! in their name

[feral fulcrum]

There's a simple solution to that. Don't be a Paladin in a party of Murderhobos. Because the only ones that fit in such a group is Conquest Paladin and Oathbreaker.

[remote wadi]

Alternatively, don't be in a party of murderhobos

[wanton sorrel]

what if the party attacks the hobos and if those enimes attack the paldin are you allowed to defend your self and still keep the code?

[wraith kelp]

guys when did they add metamagic ?

[feral fulcrum]

It was there from the start of 5E

[wraith kelp]

when was that?

[feral fulcrum]

2014

[wraith kelp]

i dont remember that when i used my first sorcerer..

[feral fulcrum]

gestures at google for such questions

[proper forum]

Update on the AI situation: my DM still loves AI

[feral fulcrum]

And that's fine.

[proper forum]

I asked him what the great houses of Drow are in this setting since my character is a Drow. He sent me a sheet of paper, but it looked AI generated.

[wanton sorrel]

x'D

[wraith kelp]

mandela effect kick in

[feral fulcrum]

Define "Looked AI generated"

[proper forum]

He probably wrote the lore on the houses himself since he is a very good writer, but for some reason he felt like AI generating an old-looking piece of paper for the list instead of just sending it as plain text.

[narrow ferry]

Paladins are the hardest class to play considerately and a little hard to DM for I'd say

[rough basalt]

Mainly an issue in the skill department

[wanton sorrel]

i should of known

[feral fulcrum]

???

[proper forum]

It just did. It was obvious. If you want me to be more specific, it had random whispy strands of brown lines that didn't go anywhere.

[wraith kelp]

guys anyone watched stranger things?

[rough basalt]

Paladins are pretty normal to dm for if you actually read the dmg (or any class for that matter)

[wanton sorrel]

yes i even bought the stranger things hellsfire club

[feral fulcrum]

So they sent you a picture of a paper with words on it, and not an actual physical piece of paper.

[wraith kelp]

do u have eleven as a character

[wanton sorrel]

no

[wraith kelp]

oh okay

[proper forum]

He sent me an AI generated image of a piece of paper with the names of the houses on it, instead of a photo of an actual piece of paper or just text.

[wraith kelp]

hhuuuuh

[feral fulcrum]

And you're miffed about them trying to be creative with digital ye olde parchment because...?

[wanton sorrel]

D&D is a fantasy based.... I use the maps for player characer.... Eleven is from the stranger things show but the story doens't say anything about the existing characters from the show. (besides monsters creatures)

[proper forum]

My DM did that when I asked him what the great houses of Drow were in his setting, because this is a world that he created.

[proper forum]

No, I'm disappointed in him using AI generated images for everything, including backgrounds, enemies, and even our own characters. He made AI images of the party's characters without asking us.

[wanton sorrel]

even if i run it exactly like stranger things.... i don't think my voice could handle all the screaming....

[cloud peak]

What should I multiclass into as a monk?

[wraith kelp]

ok making eleven with free spells will be a bit hard

[worn lagoon]

basically nothing until 18

[remote wadi]

Can be used well in some situations, but really sucks when constantly used

[wraith kelp]

my eleven is now A wind user cuz theres no telekinesis or stuff

but ill imagine it as a telekinesis

[feral fulcrum]

Multiclassing should only be done if you've got a specific build in mind, or if you're trying to chase a specific flavor. Most of the time your'e just shooting yourself in the foot.

[worn lagoon]

1. you have to figure out what you want to do with the knowledge of what level this campaign will reach
2. some classes tolerate multiclassing better than others

like looking at the monk class from a lv1 to lv20 perspective (unusually long campaign) i wouldn't want to delay my fists getting better damage die
if i know the campaign ends at lv10 i may as well say screw it at like, lv8 latest

[wraith kelp]

also how does background work

guys what class has telekinesis wizard druid or cleric

[worn lagoon]

refer to google to learn what classes learn telekinesis

[wraith kelp]

um ok

[worn lagoon]

but since you've already asked, wizard, sorcerer

[wraith kelp]

whats grappler

[feral fulcrum]

It's a background, you pick one that fits, it gives you things like proffiency's and whatever else it says.

[fair summit]

There's also the Telekinetic feat, which any class can take

[dapper pecan]

There's also feats like "Telekinetic" that give you more

[wraith kelp]

how?

[feral fulcrum]

A feat. For grappling. I presume you have the books. So, you can just look at them, instead of asking here.

[wraith kelp]

i dont

[feral fulcrum]

Then have a look at the free rules, then.

[dapper pecan]

You could at least look through the basic rules. They're free on DDB

[neon sandal]

Is there anything to look out for when searching for an online campaign?

Like any red flags I should know about

[wraith kelp]

i dont have telekinetic feat

[narrow ferry]

There's like a thousand flags of all different colors, and they are not the same for everyone

Mess around and find out, check in with yourself a well as others, some things just won't be for you, and some people will just not change

[fair summit]

My personal main ones

• "First come first serve" -posts. Good DM is gonna at least get vibes of the potential players instead of just taking the first randoms, either via questions or an interview
• Taking in pre-made groups (This is mainly from a DM side of things). People tend to ignore things off their friends, and this has been an annoyance few times I've done this
• "Players can discuss the time" -posts. This is just gonna never happen, or when it does the games are way erratic in time, and often end up with players disappearing
• To some extent, heavily homebrewed games, like the DM attempting to modify D&D to fit certain media until the game barely resembles D&D, so for example you can use none of the classes / races etc.

[narrow ferry]

Number 2 is so easy though 🥲

[fair summit]

Good things don't often come in easy. It sounds easy and fun, but when the party is a group deal, you need to hope every one of them actually fits your game, so it's either all or nothing, or risk some players being not really fit for the group (to which I've fallen to, and learned a lesson)

And it can just be me being unlucky, but it's become a personal "red flag" for me, or more accurately just something I don't do anymore

[narrow ferry]

It's worked out for me so far, but hey I might be lucky too.

Personally I'd rather just drop all the players than a single person

I'm happy to adapt the campaign and shorten it appropriately if it's not my cup of tea. To an extent...

I also feel that established groups usually have had their kinks mostly sorted out

[fair summit]

And that's the thing. The group is all familiar, but the DM and any potential additional players aren't in on that, so if someone in the group is not as great of a fit for the game, the rest of the premade group might just have gotten used to it at this point where they don't consider it an issue

[wraith kelp]

hmhm

[narrow ferry]

Yeah I wouldn't add an additional player to an existing group, unless it was their rl friend that they can vouch for and help manage

[lost ice]

Is the Avernus or any other outer plane you get to from let's say Greyhawk the same as the one you get to from let's Forgotten Realms?

[crimson gulch]

If you want it to be yes, If you don't want it to be it dosent have to be. There's published references for both methods

[atomic kayak]

Generically within the lore (as of 5e) yes

[remote wadi]

Question out of curiosity

When 6e rolls around, what buffs/nerfs would have to be made for Martial classes to keep up with spellcasters

[lost ice]

I had the impression that a different setting is basically a nonexisting myth for a person in one setting like "yeah there is proof of existence of things like Feywild or the Abyss but different "home worlds"?" no names no people no contact apart from the most world ending entities like vecna

[crimson gulch]

None, martials carry now

[karmic pendant]

Good question honestly I don't really expect much but would be neat to see what WoTC does

[crimson gulch]

And we're likely 10 years off from 6e

[still plover]

Weapon damage to scale off class and level could be good.

[remote wadi]

5.5e really that good for Martials, huh? Any smaller example?

[crimson gulch]

5e has allways been good for martials, most folks just never ran enough encounters so spellcasters could just go nova all the time

[karmic pendant]

I want this to happen if we ever get 6e

[remote wadi]

Hmmm

[lost ice]

you said it best

[eager marsh]

Martials already are fine. legendary resistance/actions mechanics and such usually mean casters struggle against end game fights to do insta win buttons. late game casters are usually doingcrowd control for non elites, or protecting the martials anyways

[remote wadi]

I suppose that's a part of what my experiences have been too. I will make note of that if I ever become a DM

[lost ice]

spellcasters aren't op, you just let them go off leash with their constant power naps

[karmic pendant]

True

[crimson gulch]

It's so easy to run a game badly where it seems like spellcasters carry.

I have more dead wizards ans sorcerers than every other class

[remote wadi]

Which also makes sense because of AC, D6 HD, and low Con

[karmic pendant]

The thing with casters is that they aren't super good early on and tend to get carried by martials

[atomic kayak]

Even discussing a hypothetical 6e like this is a bit silly because it would fundamentally be an entirely different system which makes the framing of this makes no sense

[remote wadi]

They can get overwhelmed quickly

[karmic pendant]

Honestly I don't even want 6e even though it will happen eventually

[crimson gulch]

I don't need a 6e that's for sure I need new campaigns for 5e, I have ran all the existing offical ones

[lost ice]

6e has to be its own game fundamentally different, not an upgrade to 5e just a different game so you choose what you like and maybe play both

[still plover]

Eeh, wouldn't be so sure. We've had the same stats for ever, ability checks with a DC and the d20 since 3e, that feels like a pretty enduring core.

[atomic kayak]

And yet, every edition has still fundamentally been very different

The balance between things in 1e vs 3e vs 5e is very very different

[eager marsh]

3.5 was a time when martials were actually terrifying with the right build. But the system had a lot of potential to 'build wrong' too

[atomic kayak]

Core concepts remaining similar doesn't mean much in that regard

[lost ice]

the one thing I would like in 6e is replacing spell slots with mana

[crimson gulch]

They hit the sweet spot with 5e that allowed it go grow so huge. And without bloating with to many books like 3e and 4e

[eager marsh]

Spell Points has been and is a variant rule that still exists

[karmic pendant]

Except for warlocks for some reason

[lost ice]

but it's optional and it's janky

[still plover]

Shadowrun from 2 to 3 was a fundamental change. I don't see that in D&D 3-5. I'm just talking mechanics.

A DM can always add or remove goblins. I don't see game balance as a fundamental feature of the rules.

[eager marsh]

janky how?

[atomic kayak]

Its like how pathfinder 2e has similar core concepts to 5e, but is also fundamentally a very different system (despite surface level appearances)

[undone rain]

I want a spell that lets me pull out a gun from my hat and start blasting

[eager marsh]

eldritch blast (reflavored)

[undone rain]

Eldritch bullets

[still plover]

Be a warlock. Learn eldritch blast. Use a wand as your focus.

The hat is up to you.

[proper forum]

Question: What do Shadar Kais even look like? I looked at images of them but they all look different. Do they have white skin or gray skin? That is white as in plain white, not as in white human white. Do they have white eyes, gray eyes or entirely black eyes with no iris or sclera? Do they have hair or are they all bald?

[lost ice]

features refer to spell slots, tables refer to spell slots, I want a game that was fundamentally built with mana in mind

[undone rain]

Now we're talkin

[karmic pendant]

From what I've seen they just seem to be elves with pale skin

[atomic kayak]

Spell slots are still mana

[still plover]

They vary, but they're a monochromatic bunch.

[crimson gulch]

They are a diverse people with a variety of ways They could look, generally pale

[eager marsh]

you literally just replace the word 'slot' with 'spell points' mechanically its not that hard

[proper forum]

Okay but what about the eyes?

[limber trail]

Can vary but a lot of official art depicts them with relatively normal eyes

[karmic pendant]

Eye color is up to you

[eager marsh]

so many non human races have such wide ranges of eye and skin tones of even fantasty types that you could pick a combination and be mistaken for like 4 different races

[lost ice]

that is just a 5e variant, if 6e is a thing it has to be fresh with new ideas of how magic is handled

[eager marsh]

Yes but I'm saying that 'mana' as an option using spell points exists. it's legally IN 5e and works fine. It doesnt need to be a baseline rule as the default

[proper forum]

Last and most importantly question: are all Shadar Kai depressed? Because in theor species description it says they are the opposite of Eladrin and are while one is full of emotion the other is devoid of it.

My question here is are they really emotionless?

[eager marsh]

depressed is an emotion

[woven flint]

No, but living in the Shadowfell can dull your sense of emotions, they probably have a hard time expressing themselves emotionally

[wraith kelp]

Im back hello

[proper forum]

Yeah I phrased it wrong I should've asked if they are all emotionless

[crimson gulch]

Every shadarkai pc I have ever had in My games has bucked the trend and been their own person

[wraith kelp]

urizt long time no see!

[proper forum]

Hello Eleven

[wraith kelp]

heyy

[restive blade]

Say I have sentinel as an echo fighter, and a creature makes an attack against my shadow while I’m within 5 feet, does it activate my reaction attack if a creature attacks the echo? It specifically says target and not creature, so it should work right?

[woven flint]

Well
The Witchlight carnival duo don't seem emotionless lol

I don't think Shadar-Kai are naturally "Emotionless" but living in the Shadowfell suppresses emotion pretty drastically

It's moreso an effect of the plane they live on than a Natural thing about them

[limber trail]

Up to DM ruling. My personal ruling would be that your echo counts as being you, but others may rule differently.

[zinc hare]

Their best friend and mentor forced back into the nature he tried so hard to overcome, made to kill those he held most dear after losing all of his brethren to humans.

[restive blade]

Well your echo is classified as a object iirc

Or construct, something like that at least

[zinc hare]

Sorry for late reply I didn't see since I didn't get @ed

[restive blade]

It’s not considered a creature or a player

[zinc hare]

Bingo

And bbeg won't end up killing party as of right now since he he is very busy dealing with the siege of his city set up by the players. He fully expects the players to die to the dragon

[serene jolt]

Is Crooked Moon a 3rd party or homebrew? I need to ask so I know where to ask my question.

[fair summit]

Yep, third party

[crimson gulch]

All 3rd party is someone's homebrew,

[wanton sorrel]

including grim hollow

[loud tendon]

This article talks about that a bit.. at least under 2014 rules

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1152-fighter-101-a-guide-to-the-echo-knight-from?srsltid=AfmBOorSGaet6SEB7NF7IfP9xD6aIQVQPYyHRa_G5QjxCehuZ8zZo2R1

[restive blade]

I don’t see it mention the bit about the reaction attack, maybe that was added later in sentinel?

[maiden stump]

Does anyone know any free one shots ?

[maiden stump]

Dnd 5th edition

[still plover]

Should be some here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1943-five-inexpensive-tools-on-d-d-beyond-to-make-dming

[zenith junco]

Where would I go to look for people to help me build my campaign that I am basing off Castlevania?

[still plover]

But honestly, putting "free dnd one shot 5e" into Google will probably find you a bunch.

[proper forum]

#dm-discussion or #dm-world-building

[maiden stump]

Seriously ? Tnx

[rain merlin]

Hai twins

[wanton sorrel]

?

[woven flint]

Salutations

[rain merlin]

Omg u have a Moth tag

[loud tendon]

?tag ddb claim

[cosmic roost]

The following items on D&D Beyond can be claimed at no cost.

• Baldur's Gate 3 Set
• Borderlands Quest: Goblin Trouble
• Honor Among Thieves Bundle
• Intro to Stormwreck Isle
• LEGO: Red Dragon's Tale
• Prisoner 13
• Scions of Elemental Evil
• Unearthed Arcana Playtesting
• Uni and the Hunt for the Lost Horn
  -# = starter adventure; = digital dice

[loud tendon]

@maiden stump

[maiden stump]

Yes?

[loud tendon]

Some free adventurs in the post above the one I linked you.

[woven flint]

Yup, it's a dm of mines server
His name is Ti-Moth

[rain merlin]

I love finding other moths

[maiden stump]

Oh dear I was just telling myself how beautiful u r that u tagged me lol
Tnx for the links

[woven flint]

I wonder where that little rapscallion is now 🧐

[jovial shadow]

What's the deal with "moths"?

[woven flint]

What's the deal with Airline food?

[limber trail]

What’s the deal with liches

[rain merlin]

We Are only the Best of the best

[delicate owl]

Whats the deal with the lack of new playtests that I beg for existing

[crimson gulch]

One like just dropped a week ago

[narrow ferry]

What's the deal with high level play

[burnt valley]

The best kind of Undead

[burnt valley]

Casters win

[crimson gulch]

It's fantastic, but as a dm you gotta get good at doing it

[naive cedar]

Whats the deal with true strike

[narrow ferry]

It's good in 2024

[blissful ibex]

the 2024 version is really nice
the 2014 version is one of the worst spells ever printed

[slow vine]

rust monsters are so underrated omg

[naive cedar]

Whats the deal with true strike 2014

[burnt valley]

Its a quite recent spell in 2024, it never existed in 2014

Its pretty decent though

[naive cedar]

whats the deal with find traps

[jovial shadow]

They aren't. Just underused

[silver dock]

feral tieflings get their +2 to dexterity instead of charisma

[burnt valley]

Doesn't exist

[burnt valley]

Very good against martial parties

Use them alongside Stone Warriors from PotA

[slow vine]

it's so funny because they don't do anything other than damage metal gear

one of my party members is a warforged, he's kinda like a robot essentially, and he literally couldn't do anything without his AC getting nerfed so hard

[burnt valley]

I wonder if you can effectively disarm them with the rusting ability

[lusty kelp]

What's the deal with the warlock pacts? 🥁
Sorry, the devil made me do it. 😈
Twice

[naive cedar]

Whats the deal with Mystra dying

[narrow ferry]

What's the deal with forgotten realm retcons

[severe rampart]

I'm not familiar with DnD lore, is that the dnd equivalent of "So, nice weather today, huh?"

[slow vine]

well my paladin character was essentially stripped from his armour and i had to do unarmed strikes, they're not aggressive unless there is metal around for them to consume

[burnt valley]

She deserved it

For some reason, no one wants it to be permanent

[naive cedar]

Whats the deal with Mystra and her chosen

[naive cedar]

Well it’s happened three times, to three different incarnations of her

[severe rampart]

is Mystra a bad person

[naive cedar]

Yeah but she keeps dying because people want to destroy/control magic

[atomic kayak]

Note: not necessarily. The listing of feral tiefling on ddb is inaccurate, to say the least

[burnt valley]

Absolutely

[severe rampart]

I thought Mystra was a good guy

[burnt valley]

Lolth is a god fearing Saint compared to her

[severe rampart]

then again, I also thought Bahamut was a bad guy

[naive cedar]

She’s a neutral aligned deity and does shady things

I wouldn’t say she’s worse than lolth though lol

[severe rampart]

eilistraee better

[woven flint]

That's absolutely not true lol

[naive cedar]

Eilistraee is best deity

[woven flint]

Lolth has done way more horrible things than Mystra

[burnt valley]

I see the vision

[severe rampart]

If Eilistraee and Lolth got into a fight, who would win?

[narrow ferry]

Well lolth has already beaten her once

[woven flint]

Lolth, most likely

Eilistraee doesn't fancy herself much of a combatant it seems

[narrow ferry]

Rather bested her

[burnt valley]

I'm spreading Midstra agenda

[narrow ferry]

Has anyone read the spider queen series?

[naive cedar]

You mean the modules?

[narrow ferry]

The books

[naive cedar]

Ah

[narrow ferry]

The first two are quite good i though

[jovial shadow]

Yeah, but they don't affect magic weapons or armor in the 5e version. At least in 2024

[woven flint]

Funnily enough, I don't even think Lolth hates her Daughter
Lolth probably loves the fact that Her Daughter and Son both want to usurp her for different reasons
That's why Vhaeraun is her favorite child, because he seeks to do so through Trickery

[burnt valley]

So if an arena had an environmental effect where Magic Items are disabled, would it get affected by the rust ability

[woven flint]

Too bad Vhaeraun isn't mentioned a bunch..
Lolths SON..

[blissful ibex]

Lolth is a literal ex demon lord

[narrow ferry]

The others were okay but I feel the characters were hard done by, not plot wise, but consistency

[undone rain]

Selune and lathander are based

[woven flint]

Ilmater and Kelemvor are my favorite deities

Baphomet if we're counting Demon Lords

[rough basalt]

Lolth is still a demon lord

[narrow ferry]

She wanted her dead though, but yeah, hate wouldn't be the right word

[rough basalt]

Read half of book 1 before I got lazy and took it back to the library, but the book itself was solid so far.

[woven flint]

It's funny to me that
Tiamat...
A Chaotic Evil Deity
Is an Archdevil
A Lawful Evil kind of role

Doesn't add up to me, because Tiamat is actively a discordant being

[narrow ferry]

It's hard to recommend the series as a whole

[woven flint]

She doesn't CARE about order

[narrow ferry]

Maybe forced obedience

[woven flint]

Maybe, she's subservient to Asmodeus for whatever reason kinda (TM)

[jovial shadow]

Tiamat is not an Arch Devil. She is a Dragon goddess who is trapped by contract from Asmodeus. At least this is what the lore is in 2024 anyway

[woven flint]

She's an Archdevil.
You argued this a few days ago
She may not be considered one NOW i guess, but she WAS

[ebon silo]

Now she just a monstrosity

[jovial shadow]

Whatever happened previously is irrelevant.

[woven flint]

2024 isn't a different edition, lol
It adds on to previous 5e lore.

And fixes some things with it as well

[hidden spindle]

Does Tiamat have two or three creature-type statblocks?

Just curious if a Tiefling can have it in its blood

[blissful ibex]

Aah, ||she still controls a few layers around the 64~66ish||; ye, both a goddess and a demon lord then

[jovial shadow]

Lolth has been referred to both as a Goddess and Demon Queen. All the way back to AD&D 1e. But unlike the Demons Princes, she gets to use the powers unique to gods from Deities and Demigods and other source material.

[livid slate]

I have an encounter where the players have to find the boss while the boss attacks them, do any of yall have songs that don't feel like direct confrontation but do have like a feeling of anxiety and fear

[livid slate]

But still for a boss battle

[wraith kelp]

heyo

[blissful dragon]

she has a type of fiend humanoid shaped dragon creature called abishi that found in all 5 colours of chromatic dragons

i belive the lore is their spawned from her blood but not sure

[ebon silo]

Mr x theme from resident evil 2

[hot marlin]

Actually, Tiamat's alignment being chaotic evil is a 5e thing. In every previous edition she was clearly LE.

[woven flint]

Why the hell did they change her alignment? Smh.

[lusty kelp]

Wait, she's CE now? When did that happen?!

I mean, I think alignment-personalities are overrated, but that's an interesting change

[hot marlin]

Multiple reasons. First off, some people still operate under the silly and ridiculous idea that CE is "more evil".

But the real thing? Some writers wanted to double down on the idea that she was a prisoner in the Nine Hells

[woven flint]

That's stupid

[woven flint]

That's also stupid 😭

[eager marsh]

Being chaotic alignment doesn’t reflect being a prisoner to the most lawful evil plane however

[woven flint]

So, literally no good reason for changing her alignment?

[hot marlin]

Remember, that's what Tyranny of Dragons was meant to be about. When the people who wrote it conceptualized the campaign, the idea was not that the cult was summoning an avatar (it would not be worth all those efforts). The idea was that they were freeing her from her bounds in the Nine Hells.

[eager marsh]

There was no good reason for many proper changes and then wizards ordered all the writers to fix their mess ups like two years later

[hot marlin]

And there's another thing at play. In 4e, Lawful Evil was not an alignment

[woven flint]

I mean, there's so many ways they could've depicted her being a prisoner in a place she didn't belong, I'm sure

[hot marlin]

Bear in mind, there's another weirdness to it!

[severe rampart]

then what was the alignment like back then

[hot marlin]

She was lawful evil in the PHB, but then her statblocks, whether in Tyranny of Dragons or in DiA or in Fizban's, were all chaotic evil.

[woven flint]

WHAT

[hot marlin]

Basically: Lawful Good, Good, Neutral, Evil, Chaotic Evil. A slider

[severe rampart]

How the hell was it worse back then? 😭

[eager marsh]

DiA just copy pasted the Tyranny stat block to be fair. I think Fozbans did the same

[hot marlin]

No, the Aspect of Tiamat in Fizban's is a very different statblock from the Tiamat statblock in Rise of Tiamat

[eager marsh]

Then they simply referenced the old stat block and saw CE and kept it. It doesn’t even change anything about her or how she acts realistically so ignoring it is easy

[potent vector]

Yeah, no idea why that would make her a Fiend either, it's not a very good way to take it imo either

[woven flint]

I know Alignment doesn't matter, but I feel SPECIFICALLY for Extraplanar beings like Devils, Celestials, Demons and So on
It actually does matter because it's the whole point of their planes existence

[jagged magnet]

yo im completely new to dnd any tips

[eager marsh]

Buy dice. Lots of dice. Different colors and materials of dice. All the dice.

[potent vector]

Most of the rules for player/DM etiquette is just don't be jerk, acting in good faith on both sides for character creation and DM campaign transparency goes a long way

[jagged magnet]

so just like a relationship?

[fossil hollow]

ye

[jagged magnet]

i can do that

any other tips

[severe rampart]

Split the party

[jagged magnet]

?

[severe rampart]

jk, never split the party

[potent vector]

(that's a joke, never do that lmfao)

[ebon silo]

Is fun when u do it the right way

[jagged magnet]

what does that mean?

[severe rampart]

mostly because the DM could hate running two scenes at once

[jagged magnet]

oh wait nvm

[severe rampart]

When you separate the party

[narrow ferry]

Always check in, don't be afraid to check out

[jagged magnet]

splitting up yeah that doesnt seem fun

[severe rampart]

When I was just dealing with a drunk bard while the other two of my party members were on a stealth mission, that was fun

[jagged magnet]

lmao

i can understand when that kind of thing would be needed

[undone rain]

And eat them

[lavish flame]

yeah, the real issue with splitting the party isn't "each group is weaker than the whole" imo. I think "there is only 1 DM" is good enough reason not to split the party.

[severe rampart]

Also, try every possible way of unlocking a door without asking if its locked first

[potent vector]

Also, make sure you know what table you're playing at. When it comes to genre of the game your playing, or House rules and homebrew, if you don't know either you might have some friction with what your build can do.

[jagged magnet]

so just look into the rules

[jagged magnet]

i will absolutely do that

[potent vector]

. . . Some of y'all concern me.

[severe rampart]

Oh, and open a chest immediately when you see it

[jagged magnet]

no thanks

[fossil hollow]

you never eated dice?

[ebon silo]

Me and another one my mates are a door worst nightmare

[potent vector]

Do I look like Venture from the hit PvP Hero shooter Overwatch 2?

[fossil hollow]

... maybe?

[potent vector]

Anyway, technically not, because house rules and homebrew are specifically liberties individual tables take to make their game feel different

[jagged magnet]

oh i get it

[fossil hollow]

still, a base understaning of the game is good to have.

know the system before you break it or mod it

[jagged magnet]

ya ive been trynna read and watch as much as i can about dnd

[potent vector]

Yeah, and genre is also a part of knowing the table, playing at a table that likes gritty realism will be WAY different than a High Magic preferring table

[woven flint]

We all eat rocks here.

[jolly hound]

What’s everyone’s favorite subclass

[neon sandal]

Which ones better to start off with
Homebrew or House rules?

[severe rampart]

College of Lore

[ebon silo]

Oath of vengenace

[severe rampart]

oh, and possibly Echo Knight

[ebon silo]

Like to hit things really hard

[potent vector]

House Rules. They apply to everyone, Homebrew lets you expand your character creation options, which you already have plenty of new ones as a new player to start.

[ebon silo]

And 2024 made them even better

[severe rampart]

okay Batman

[blissful ibex]

Circle of Preservation druid c:
except it's a UA still until we get news on the DS book >.>

[undone rain]

Their the best snack

[ebon silo]

Opps

[severe rampart]

The dragon yearns for flesh

[undone rain]

I always have a big bowl of dice for breakfast

[woven flint]

War Cleric, Cavalier Fighter, Bladesinger Wizard, Glamor Bard..
Hmmm...
I'm sure I have more

[ebon silo]

Oath of the genie is starting to become my second fav subclass though

A dex base paladin sounds hmmmmmmm

[keen kestrel]

It's becoming my favorite ngl

[jolly hound]

That one does look pretty interesting if it comes out I’d totally play one

[woven flint]

My Glamor Bard was an Owlin fellow named Caspian Goldengale, I retired him to play a Thief Rogue, though

[jolly hound]

We’ve never had a Druid in our campaigns

[blissful ibex]

otherwise Dreams Druid, College of the Moon Bard, GOOlock or Archfey Warlock, Swarmkeeper Ranger

[silver dock]

accidentally sucked up an ice cube while i was drinking some apple juice and it shot into my throat

[keen kestrel]

I'm playing it right now, it's so fun\

[woven flint]

My favorite Druids are Wildfire and Moon

[blissful ibex]

I like monk but none of the subclasses
Mystic looks nice though

[potent vector]

Circle of Stars.

[woven flint]

Mercy Monk is my favorite Monk :3

[ebon silo]

Circle of stars with cleric dips sound nasty

[potent vector]

That things oozes flavor without being rigid.

[undone rain]

Path of the totem warrior

[blissful ibex]

stars is nice
pairs nicely with cartographer Artificer

[silver dock]

is the Sorcerous Origin class feature the sorcerer's subclass

[woven flint]

Circle of Stars with a few Dips into Life Cleric

[undone rain]

Specifically the bear

[ebon silo]

But i will always hate them for making spirit weapon concentration in 2024

[woven flint]

Oh, I've been enjoying Celestial Warlock recently

[blissful ibex]

I'm very happy with it c:
it broke resource management and made tier 1~2 cleric overpowered vs druid and bard for damage

[potent vector]

Hey, but War Domain gets it without conc at least

[ebon silo]

Now i cant have spirti weapon and spirit guardian at the same time “ angry face”

[potent vector]

Again, you can with War Domain

[ebon silo]

Ill try it in the future

[narrow ferry]

Me too

[ebon silo]

This campaign im playing now needs a tank and that me

Blade ward ftw in 2024

[narrow ferry]

Spirit guardians is too good tho

[undone rain]

Frontlining my beloved

[ebon silo]

Right now im going pure eldrick knight an is going even better than expected

[woven flint]

War Cleric is my favorite Cleric because my War Cleric was an absolute unit
His name was Karkas, he was a Tiefling fellow and his Deity was The Doombringer, he had 7 resistances and killed a fair share of Devils and Even a Mummy Lord and a Lich.. he killed the Liches body twice!

[ebon silo]

My damage skyrocketed last session

[undone rain]

What even is a lich

[ebon silo]

💀

[undone rain]

Oh its a walking corpse

[ebon silo]

Im spamming booming blades left and right

[woven flint]

... you know... Liches..
Like...
Vecna? Acererak? Aizalan?

[undone rain]

I do now

[ebon silo]

How many times have they change vecna background now?

[undone rain]

I knew vecna but i never knew what he was

[woven flint]

Liches are a very powerful type of Undead Magic user

[ebon silo]

Wrath of the lich king

[undone rain]

And very disturbing to look at

[woven flint]

They're also some of very few undead that keep their minds and intelligence and they ACTUALLY choose to become undead through a ritual

Becoming a Lich is a very tedious process.

If one messes up, they could become a Boneclaw, which is a failed Lich bound to serve other evil creatures

[lavish flame]

Vecna is an archlich, he's a super powerful necromancer who has forsaken his own soul to live forever (at the cost of requiring new souls every day). In some worlds, Vecna is a god.

[undone rain]

Cool cool

[woven flint]

Acererak was Vecnas Student and he was a Cambion, not a human individual but the offspring of Demons

[lavish flame]

Cambion, not Cambodian

[woven flint]

Oop, yeah lol

[lavish flame]

Cambodians are people from the nation Cambodia

[undone rain]

Lich kinda reminds me of withers in bg3 ngl. In terms of looks

[woven flint]

Acererak was also the first of the two approached to become the Deity of Liches, but he turned it down because he liked having his freedom lol

[undone rain]

Smart move

[woven flint]

Acererak is pretty damn cool, to be honest
He's incredibly powerful and could've become more powerful but he was like "Nah, I'll just do my own shit!"

[undone rain]

If i was him id do the same. Having no freedom in exchange for great powers no good

[woven flint]

Iirc correctly, Vecna was one of the Oldest Liches and Acererak became one when he found out how Vecna became one, which is why Vecna is now a god of secrets
Too many betrayals as a "mortal"

[lavish flame]

idk even know how to summarize Vecna's history. He kills all of Mordenkainen's coworkers, he tries to destroy the city of Sigil and take the throne from the Lady of Pain (he fails completely), he wrote the Book of Vile Darkness, he was defeated by his lieutenant Kas The Bloody Handed, he sought the Rod of Seven Parts to destroy the multiverse

[woven flint]

I mean, I understand why Vecna was upset when Kas betrayed him
But Acererak was literally a demon, how didn't he see that coming? 💀

For an insanely smart guy, he's not really smart

[undone rain]

Sure as hell sounds like an idiot

[woven flint]

You forgot the part where Vecna was a Domain of Dread lord for a period of time

[fossil hollow]

tbf, he was only half demon

the other half is to blame