dnd-discussion

[tame kelp]

facepalm

[blissful ibex]

No dice, Magic Missile is a 'Line of Sight' spell

Each dart strikes a creature of your choice that you can see within range

[hot marlin]

Who says I cannot see in darkness?

[rugged hawk]

The darkness is obviously an entity in my line of sight

[blissful ibex]

Better bring your truesight, devil's sight, or blindsight to the party then XD

[blissful ibex]

it's an effect, not a creature

[rugged hawk]

Stop sucking all the magic out of existence.

[keen valve]

Surely you could just shoot it in a straight line, right?

[blissful ibex]

There's plenty of fun shinanigans to be had within the confines of the rules tbf :3

[blissful ibex]

nope, requires a target for the magic to work
other spells would though, like firebolt or anything that makes an attack roll that doesn't require LoS
also AoEs generally just have you pick a point in range; could stilll fireball them

[keen valve]

Whatever wizard made that spell sucks, and needs to be held accountable.

[rugged hawk]

Ehhh, lies. Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance proves Magic Missiles just meander through space until there's something to lock onto, they hit an object, or dissipate after 6 seconds.

[blissful ibex]

sadly, that's not what the 5e 14 or 5e24 rulebook says, so if you're playing those editions, that's how things work RAW >:3c

[keen valve]

Tbh, I do like and prefer the idea of just a wandering magic missile that just stays flying because it has no target. Like a sort of "The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't" type vibe or whatever.

[rugged hawk]

Okay, Gargauth

[blissful ibex]

besides, they have no listed velocity/move speed, so they'd just sit there by that reasoning XD

[rugged hawk]

Nah, they have a listed speed. It's their maximum casting range per round.

[burnt valley]

Self insert as M*stra 💀

[blissful ibex]

and then die for a 5th time

[burnt valley]

Deserved 👍

[keen valve]

120 ft every 6 seconds if fired at max range. I would think.

[marble lion]

It is cringe. But some judgements are better left unsaid in a public server with many members

[shadow silo]

I'm gonna run my own campaign for the first time ever. Part of the core plot line that'll develop into deeper meaning will be poisioned ale (well not poisioned but too make it brief lets go with that) . I'm conflicted on if its a bad or good idea to have the players drink the ale and themselves be affected at the end of session 1 too give more character motive into investigating the situation
Could I get some opions on the matter from you fellow DND'ers?

(The players will have no mechanical disadvantage to being poisoned. More like a ticking time bomb thing that they'll easily solve for themselves but common folk and cities won't have it so easy)

[marble lion]

If it wasnt cringe enough to kick the player, dont publically say it
Thats my approach

[naive cedar]

I like to put some of myself in my characters, which is why they’re all really dumb

[keen valve]

Like a sort of black magic ritual or something? What parts of your body are you sacrificing to put into your players that makes them dumb?

[blissful ibex]

Cyric be like: "Y'all want a spellplague say snuff that"

[naive cedar]

My brain bc I dont use it

[keen valve]

Eh, brains don't matter if you hit good.

[rugged hawk]

Right up til you get one-shot by a mind flayer sucking out your subpar-INT brain

[naive cedar]

Mind flayers arent a problem for me bc I have no brains

[keen valve]

Hahaha... what do you mean? That's crazy talk.

[burnt valley]

Cyric is truly a Hero from saving mortalkind from M*stra, too bad he didn't know how to make it permanent nor get the Weave to be a self-running engine

[hot marlin]

Seriously, what is it with all the Mystra hate?

[misty vault]

It's been like that since 2e.

[blissful ibex]

took away our dumb, fun epic spells q_q

no more eclipses on demand

[burnt valley]

It doesn't work anyway if it doesn't exist 🤷

[hot marlin]

That Mystra is dead.

[halcyon forum]

She has literally the most important job of all gods and the thanks she gets is people trying to kill her every few years

[umbral girder]

Except she didn’t.

That was a different goddess of magic who is already dead.

[hot marlin]

The Mystra that prevented epic level spells is the first one. Who died during the troubles.

Post-time of troubles Mystra is an entirely different woman who just decided to use her predecessor's name

[umbral girder]

No she died during Time of Troubles.

Spellplague was Mystra 2 (Midnight)

[hot marlin]

Oh damn, yes. I don't know why I wrote "spellplalague"

[rugged hawk]

Forsake Mystra, return to Mystryl

[misty vault]

And then the Sundering brought Mystra back.

[rough basalt]

Ye first Mystra was backhanded by Helm

[misty vault]

First Mystra was killed by Karsus.

[rough basalt]

That was Mystryl

[halcyon forum]

she reincarnated though

[hot marlin]

No, that's Mystryl

[misty vault]

ah, right.

[rugged hawk]

No. That was Mystryl.

[blissful ibex]

still an incarnation of the same conceptual deity

[halcyon forum]

so was the first mystra really a different person than Mystryl? i dont think so. not really

[rough basalt]

Then 2nd Mystra was killed to destroy FR irl

[misty vault]

She does die alot and comes back with the same hair.

[verbal axle]

Blebleble

[tame kelp]

Or let a character from Shadowfell uses an umbrella

[rough basalt]

I imagine the Spellplague could've been better received if it wasn't intended to wipe the world clean of lore.

[halcyon forum]

and once Midnight ascended to become Mystra, she got all the memories of the old one I believe, so there is some continuity

[hot marlin]

Actually yes. Her soul is something of an amalgam between a bit of Mystryl and a Netherese woman.

[umbral girder]

I see it like the former chosen of Lolth. Yeah she has memories of the old one but very much a different person

[blissful ibex]

TBF, the old light sensitivity trait more so screwed with vision than anything; disadvantage to attack rolls and perception checks in bright light

[hot marlin]

And when you look at the different goddesses of magic, you realize that they all acted differently

[halcyon forum]

right, thats what I was saying. the Mystra/Mystryl line is more or less the same deity with some minor differerences based on the ascended hosts

[tame kelp]

This is a really difficult challenge for me as I am a newbie dm and my new player want to play as something from Shadowfell and they that disadvantage..

SERIOUSLY DIFFICULT

[blissful ibex]

doesn't have to be a mechanical thing though; just handle it narritively
if you need DMing addvice, #dm-discussion is a resource available to you

[umbral girder]

So completely different people every time

[halcyon forum]

shadar-kai exist

[fast latch]

What’s the best onomatopoeia for Fireball?

[naive cedar]

combination of her being one of the more famous fr deities and her generally sucking

[blissful ibex]

explosion noises

[umbral girder]

Shadar-Kai are elves from there.
Reborn, Dhampir, and Hexblood also are from there technically. You could probably have a Tiefling from there.

[hot marlin]

Mystryl was very "laissez-faire" and unserious and actually had a relatively good relationship with both her parents. Mystra empowered an ungodly amount of chosen and when she realized that chosen wold act independantly, she decided to have daughters so they'd be groomed perfectly for their task. And she had a bad relationship with Shar. Midnight, when she ascended, showed biases and restricted access to the Weave to some people, an actual abuse of power for which she was put on trial.

[fast latch]

I think KA-SHOOOOOOOM is pretty good

[umbral girder]

“Poof”

[misty vault]

ka boom

[hot marlin]

Mystra was basically a control freak. Midnight is even worse, so much that the other gods put her on trial for it

[blissful ibex]

bonus points if it's a demoman impression

[naive cedar]

That being said I think Midnight (the current Mystra) is the least crappy out of the three aside from the whole “telling her exes to go blow themselves up” thing

[rough basalt]

Ye "Mystra" is mainly a moniker that passes along some parts of themselves to the next imo

[hot marlin]

Nah she's the worst of the three.

[umbral girder]

Yeah she should be more Lawful than Neutral it seems.

[halcyon forum]

I would be a control freak too in her situation lmao

[eager marsh]

Midnight didn't create her chosen tho

[naive cedar]

That’s a hot take

[umbral girder]

Nah midnight is pretty bad

[misty vault]

Wasn't Gale a chosen?

[eager marsh]

Yesnt

[naive cedar]

He was yeah

[umbral girder]

So very fair too. A lot happened.

[umbral girder]

was

[hot marlin]

Mystryl was basically the perfect goddess of magic. Her one mistake is her handling of the Karsus affair, she really should have put a stop to that before it happened. A screw-up that cost her.

[misty vault]

I imagine he was probably Mystra (Midnight's) ex-Chosen.

[rough basalt]

I always kill Gale for my magic lady.

[halcyon forum]

he can become one again

[naive cedar]

Mystra 2 is the worst id say

I love gale

[hot marlin]

Uh? Midnight is Mystra 2

[eager marsh]

She's not omnipotent, even Ao isnt. Dude cast that and she fixed it after the fact by turning magic back on.

[rugged hawk]

Midnight only took Mystra's name to make the transition easier for everyone involved.

[umbral girder]

Don’t remember that from his endings. Good to know

[naive cedar]

I mean the one before her mb

[eager marsh]

Mytril -> Mystra - >Midnight (Mystra)

[hot marlin]

I mean she should have have had a talk with him the moment he started developping that spell

[eager marsh]

God. Not allowed on the prime material

[halcyon forum]

did she even know he would aim it at her?

[eager marsh]

She's still also not omnipotent. She literally wouldnt know he's making it

[hot marlin]

Actually completely allowed. Gods appear on the material plane all the time. That's literally how Elminster became a wizard

[naive cedar]

Wasn’t midnight a cleric of mystra

[halcyon forum]

she might have assumed that Karsus would not be so stupid

[misty vault]

He was stupid.

[rough basalt]

Ye deities go to FR to screw around all the time

[hot marlin]

Not automatically, but keeping tab on the most powerful Netherese arcanist seems like something she should have been doing

[rough basalt]

Bahamut even larps as a Wizard

[eager marsh]

The fact she let the netherese empire exist proves she wasnt morally giving a damn

[umbral girder]

Also as a Monk

[rough basalt]

In multiple settings actually

[eager marsh]

and avatars dont count as the god being in the material thats their drone

[hot marlin]

Mystra was bad. She had armies of chosen, not all of them competent or sane. The job was too much for her.

[naive cedar]

All wizards in fr are stupid

[eager marsh]

Not the otter. Bro just chillin

[hot marlin]

Mystra 2 though? Take everything bad about Mystra 1, and amplify it. Add to it bias, abuse of power...

[rugged hawk]

Mystryl was much more open to free use of any and all magic, as well as more trusting and naive. When she returned as Mystra, she was much more strict on its use, having experienced the effects of being abused by its wielders.

[halcyon forum]

I mean you cant really be in charge of magic itself and not be some kind of neutral

[rough basalt]

Not really stupid, mainly most are egomaniacs that let their egos make dumb decisions

[naive cedar]

That’s also accurate

[halcyon forum]

expecting a god of magic to be like an active crusader against evil seems to miss the point

[hot marlin]

Yes, because the job is not about morality, it's about making sure magic runs correctly. She did that job well. Preventing the Netherese empire would have been an unacceptable overreach and abuse of power.

A god of magic shouldn't be concerned with morals. A god of magic should absolutely be amoral.

[rough basalt]

Tbh floating cities was pretty cool and Mystryl was based for not barring it

[fast latch]

Magic is a neutral thing

Like a knife is a neutral thing

You can use a knife to cook a meal for your family or use it to stab your enemies

[naive cedar]

I mean I think we all agree Mystra isn’t a “good” goddess. It’s not her job

[rough basalt]

Ye magic is just a tool

[hot marlin]

I'm not following. "Good" as in the opposite of evil or "good" as in the opposite of "bad" or "competent"?

[halcyon forum]

at best she is interested in life and its use of magic to continue and flourish

[eager marsh]

which is only further proof she was not required to maintain direct monitering of any individual casters, even leaders of the empire

[rough basalt]

Said tool has been developed in lots of ways to enrich life, and also ruin it

[naive cedar]

Good as in the opposite of evil. She’s neutral

[hot marlin]

Absolutely not. Letting the empire exist is one thing, but the job requires keeping tab on people who would have the ability to disrupt the weave

[rough basalt]

Someone can use Enchantment to help aid someone's ailing mind just as much as someone can use Enchantment to make them commit mass murder

[hot marlin]

And preventing them from using that ability. Either with a simple conversation or more drastic measures if warranted

But the Netherese empire did not disrupt the weave meaningfully enough to justify intervention

[halcyon forum]

again, there might not have been a way for her to know that he would try to take her place specifically

[hot marlin]

That is fair.

I still stand by my point that Mystryl was the best of the three and this is her one screw up, but you are right. The screw up is not entirely her fault.

[rough basalt]

I do wonder, did anyone else know Karsus's plan?

[hot marlin]

Maybe his wife? Was he married actually?

[halcyon forum]

my impression is he kept things pretty close to his chest

[eager marsh]

it's her one screw up because it's all backstory history. there wasn't a narrative need or time for her to mess up any worse

[rugged hawk]

Mystryl was, ultimately, a goddess of magical ambition. Karsus was a natural result. Mystra learned from that experience and put limitations on said ambition.

[misty vault]

there is an adventure in Netheril's Fall that involves Karsus.

[rough basalt]

Makes sense cause Netheril no doubt wouldn't be stupid enough to let some dude decimate their entire civilization.

[hot marlin]

Mystra also groomed armies of mortal spellcasters, giving them more power than anyone else, with very little oversight. She was not competent.

[undone rain]

Ah crap ive become an oathbreaker

[rough basalt]

Tho one floating city did escape, but by the time they returned to FR from the Shadowfell they weren't Netherese people anymore

[rugged hawk]

Karsus wasn't the only factor in Netheril's fall. The Phaerimm had tons to do with it.

[rough basalt]

Then an old crazy man dropped that floating city on another city

[undone rain]

3rd session in and im already an oathbreaker

[eager marsh]

The Phaerim were why he did it

[rough basalt]

I thought he did it cause he's a Wizard and wizards want power

[misty vault]

Ah, in the adventure (The Doomed Apotheosis) there is a NPC that knows about Karsus's plans on replacing the deity of magic.

[eager marsh]

He only considered it a necessary step to answer the phaerimm threat actually.

[hot marlin]

So, who is the worst goddess of magic? Arguments for each:
Mystryl: Laxism allowed Karsus to cast his avatar.
Mystra: Too many chosen, resulting in the cult of the dragon, tried to fight Helm
Midnight: Still too many chosen, overreach, abuse of power and moral bias

I vote Midnight personally.

[eager marsh]

She didnt even try to fight helm she just lied to his face. Also the chosen were created by morally messed up methods. has Midnight even created new chosen or simply not un-chosen them?

[hot marlin]

Actually I'm pretty sure the novel explicitely says that she dealt the first blow. And she wasn't lying.

[rough basalt]

Tho Midnight wouldn't be doing the abuse of power and overreach if it wasn't because people are always trying to kill her.

[naive cedar]

Mystra said let me speak to the manager

[hot marlin]

As for Midnight, yes, she did create new chosen. Gale is young

[eager marsh]

iirc she explicitly ignored Ao and didnt bring the tablet

[hot marlin]

She wanted to talk with Ao because she wanted to tell him she knew who had stolen the tablets.

[naive cedar]

I’d say mystra is the worst althiugh midnight is up there. Mystryl is fine

[rough basalt]

I'd say midnight wouldn't need to be as bad if it wasn't for other gods and mortals tho

[eager marsh]

does Midnight use the same homewrecker method as Mystra to make chosen?

[rough basalt]

Like every wizard be in their towers hoping to become the next Karsus, but actually succeed

[misty vault]

Midnight inherited a bad management job with lots of employees doing what they wanted. So, she got political and went to court for it and lost her boyfriend.

Did BG3 ever reveal Gale's backstory on how he was made into a Chosen?

[halcyon forum]

I think he was just very talented so he got her attention?

[eager marsh]

so he's not 1/3 divine like the first batch

[halcyon forum]

this. her intentions were good and Helm was just being is lawful stupid self

[hot marlin]

Still, she attacked first, in a fight she should have known she could never win

You don't beat Helm at his full powers when you're weakened and when he's guarding something

[misty vault]

that's his one thing. the guarding.

[eager marsh]

At his full powers while Ao handed him more power*

[halcyon forum]

not a smart move but I get the desperation. considering what was at stake

[worn lagoon]

gale was able to cast lv3 spells at the age of 8, little wonder mystra took interest

[rugged hawk]

Mystra wasn't in her right mind when she attacked him, though. She'd just spent considerable time being tortured in an attempt to abuse her powers and had gotten fed up with it happening again (the first being Karsus).

[worn lagoon]

it's a kid with 0 sorcerous gifts who was well-learned enough to fireball his own garden

[rugged hawk]

So yeah, Mystra went Karen on Helm (rightfully so) and got wrecked because she was bad at non-magical math

[eager marsh]

she's bad at magical math too tbh

[misty vault]

She got Azuth for that.

[small heath]

Question: is meta magic twinned spell worth it in 2024?

[umbral girder]

She made a calculated decision but unfortunately she is the god of Magic instead of Math

[worn lagoon]

it is usable but i would not take it. works with a much narrower scope of spells

[crimson gulch]

No

[umbral girder]

Yeah a free upcasting is useful.

[small heath]

I'm debating if I wanna keep it or swap it out for something else since I'm making final adjustments for my sorcerer before next session.

[worn lagoon]

there are more useful metamagics

[rugged hawk]

Also, she fought Helm when he was doing what he was meant to do: Watch and Guard. Which was never going to end well.

[small heath]

Because my initial thought process was to have twinned spell for banish and swap out another spell for like hold monster/person so I can save on a spell slot.

[marble lion]

I dont actually understand why people hate mystra

[hot marlin]

Don't fight Helm when he's guarding stuff. Don't fight Red Knight in a chess match, it's simple

[misty vault]

and the cycle continues

[umbral girder]

I like Twinned spell because it’s a psuedo upcasting without needing a spell slot for it.

[hot marlin]

You don't fight a god in a fight that plays to their strength, that's dumb

[still plover]

Never challenge a Sicilian when death is on the line?

[worn lagoon]

while economical, there are far fewer spells that work with it now, and i would prefer a more widely applicable metamagic

[rugged hawk]

No no, that was disproven.

[small heath]

Oh and an additional question: I have both Misty Step and Blink. Is it good to have both, and when should I use one over the other?

[halcyon forum]

also we should blame Ao for his overreaction regarding the tablet theft

[umbral girder]

Challenging Chauntea to make the biggest pumpkin /jk

[umbral girder]

Yeah but I like being able to do something like “ah I need a 4th level slot to upcast this but I’m level 5? Well I have an option!”

[worn lagoon]

Ig

[umbral girder]

Nice way to buff up some of the spells beyond what others can do.

[rugged hawk]

His reaction to the Tablets wasn't about the theft itself. They were simply an excuse to make the pantheons undergo some mandatory god training since they'd been too busy on their own focuses instead of the mortals under them.

[eager marsh]

There's like only a handful of spells it works for so you just have to keep in mind that you take those spells

[small heath]

My current metamagics (lvl 10) are: careful, quickened, transmuted, and twinned. I still have the ability to swap out one of them since I haven't done so yet.

[halcyon forum]

okay but he banished all gods, regardless of consequences (see what happened to the weave with Mystra depowered)

[worn lagoon]

I've just not had many cases where i wished i could upcast something with it

[umbral girder]

It’s likely more useful in tier 3 and 4 since you get so little slots of 6th level and up

Also you cannot turn sorcery points into those slots either

[halcyon forum]

like, its fine if Mystra is distant to her followers imo, she got an important job

[rugged hawk]

Yep, because enough of the gods had been forsaking their duties and prioritizing their own aims. So he made it a team activity for everyone to ensure he wouldn't need to further teach the lesson.

[eager marsh]

She should be distant imo

[naive cedar]

It’s very vague which leads to all kinds of arguments in the fandom. The most likely explanation is that he was just very talented so she was interested (I’m also pretty sure that Gale js a sorcerer ngl)

[halcyon forum]

yeah that the wrong move imo. he could have devised somehing different for mystra

[naive cedar]

She SHOULD be more distant lol rhe whole “having relationships with her chosen” thing is an objectively stupid idea

[small heath]

We can chat more about BG3 in #baldurs-gate-3-spoilers if y'all want since I'm in Act 3 currently.

[worn lagoon]

gale ain't a sorcerer, "a very talented wizard" just means "extremely smart little kid" in his case

[atomic kayak]

categorically not a sorcerer

[small heath]

I'm glad the Netherese empire fell off!

[worn lagoon]

he's talented as in he's giving sixth-year transmutation exams in first grade

[rugged hawk]

I hear what you're saying. Counterpoint, I'd say her overreaction was proof she needed to be part of that exercise.

[naive cedar]

He could cast level 3 spells when he was 8 idk

Maybe I’m misunderstanding lore

[worn lagoon]

yeah bc he was that far ahead of his peers

[eager marsh]

Child prodigies do exist bro was just book smart af

[rugged hawk]

Gale strongly strikes me as a sorcerer who chose to study.

[misty vault]

everyone was casting mage hand and little 8 year old Gale was fireballing.

[naive cedar]

Idk flying cities are cool

[worn lagoon]

gale has no source of discernible sorcery, though

[atomic kayak]

He definitely isn't. Especially since that could simply be applied to basically any magic user

[halcyon forum]

IDK if she OVERreacted. She was freaking out because the weave was out of whack, rightfully so

[worn lagoon]

he's the type of kid who probably taught himself how to read

at the age of 3 or something

[rugged hawk]

She was freaking out because she'd just had yet another traumatic experience with mortals trying to abuse her for her powers and domain.

[eager marsh]

it's very rare, but just being mentally rapidly developped from the average person can happen

[naive cedar]

The way he talks about magic seems weird for someone who is entirely learned though idk

[rugged hawk]

Gale speaks of magic as if he has a sorcerous instinct that he channeled into book learning.

[worn lagoon]

it's probably got to do with his environment too, he was in the perfect place to receive magical guidance, even had a personal wizard tower down the line

[misty vault]

and wasn't his nanny his familiar?

[worn lagoon]

i'm not a child prodigy but even i learned to read very early thanks to my parents

[naive cedar]

You mean Tara? He conjured her when he was 10 or something

[eager marsh]

I mean even wizards have to channel the weave through themselves to some degree. Being super intuitive about the weave without just having magic nepotism in your blood can hapen

[worn lagoon]

tara's from when his mom didn't let him get a cat so he made one

[naive cedar]

I don’t even like sorcerers that much tbh. “Magic nepotism” is hilariously accurate

[eager marsh]

That's just a joke sorcerers still have to spend years of their backstory practicing their innane magical aptitude all the same

[worn lagoon]

yup

[naive cedar]

and, like all people who are like “I don’t like cats I don’t want a cat!!!” she apparently ended up loving tara

[worn lagoon]

yup, exactly like my mom and my little doggy

[still plover]

The sorcerer = nepo baby thing bothers me. You think because someone's a sorcerer that means they go to level 20? They don't have to work and practice?

[worn lagoon]

aged dnd jokes are some of the unfunniest stuff tbh

[naive cedar]

It’s mostly a joke but ljke sorcerers have a massive advantage being born with magic

[minor cargo]

I think “massive advantage because of birth” is a great theme to deconstruct at a D&D table.

[eager marsh]

Warlocks are Magic Sugar Babies, Wizards are Magic book nerds, and Sorcerers are Magic Rich Kids that got a loan of a million mana

[naive cedar]

I didn’t know “sorcerers are nepo babies” was an aged joke tbh. I thought “LOL bards suck” was the old joke

[worn lagoon]

wizardry is expensive and the life of a hedge wizard requires quite a bit of tenacity

[naive cedar]

This is also true

[eager marsh]

Bards are very good actually. The other interpretation of that joke is illegal sorry

[misty vault]

"just one more spell slot, pls" - every Warlock.

[small heath]

As a sorcerer, I am playing my character as they are going through a lot of trauma situations they are not used to because they've been "shut in" from a lot of the real-adventuring problems. So as he's learning how to cope with the difficulties of betrayal and losing friends, he's growing stronger and more determined to do better.

[worn lagoon]

even if you're not born a sorcerer, if you're born rich then you have a significant advantage as a wizard over literally anyone else

[burnt valley]

would sorcerers be one of those obnoxious child prodigies?

[umbral girder]

Wizards are expensive

[naive cedar]

The could be

[worn lagoon]

you'll get all the best tutors, and then your dad will buy you a tower for your 100th birthday

[misty vault]

sorcerers could also be feared and chased off due to their innate magic in a village of superstitious commoners. Ala Mutants from X-Men.

[burnt valley]

Be born in Netheril as a Noble equivalent = Win DnD

[small heath]

Bro, this alone just made me realized a huge puzzle piece my DM laid out for the party to figure out that me, as the new player, had no clue about.

Hell we have a wizard who didn't say anything about this flying city we discovered.

[worn lagoon]

basically better than being born with magic

[small heath]

The annoying thing now is that my mindset on how to deal with the BBEG's problem is completely differnet now, knowing that the Netherese is connected.

[eager marsh]

born on the day of Karsus' Folly

[naive cedar]

Yw

[burnt valley]

Imagine having Karsus as your teacher

[small heath]

But it's way too late to change dialogue and actions 😭

[burnt valley]

That's nasty 💀

[small heath]

I could've approached the situation completely different if I knew this.

[worn lagoon]

in terms of how easy it is to develop yourself as a magician (imo)
wizard born into wealth > sorcerer > hedge wizard > literally any warlock i can think of

[burnt valley]

Tell Karsus to avatar Io instead or smth

[rugged hawk]

What skill replaced Search in 5e?

[misty vault]

Investigation?

[burnt valley]

hedge wiz can potentially outdo sorcerer if they were to abuse certain spell effects

[worn lagoon]

hedge wizard can just run into very good scrolls in the market and have an edge over the average sorc

[rugged hawk]

Kinda what I thought but wasn't sure

[burnt valley]

They're below sorc if they were to learn certain spells for "vibes and flavour" though

Wait, i wonder if hedge wizard can make a spell out of desperation

[worn lagoon]

a hedge wizard is just a self-teaching wizard living in average to below average conditions

[misty vault]

perception is often your wisdom telling you that there is a trap in the area and the door looks sus. Investigation is telling you that door is a trap due to x y z.

[worn lagoon]

self-funding their own research

[tall forge]

Technically any wizard/sorcerer can “make” a spell

Other classes may make less sense to do so

[naive cedar]

Could a cleric make a spell?

[misty vault]

sure can

[naive cedar]

or a bard?

[worn lagoon]

the canon gold dragon i picked as my sorcerer's ancestor apparently had white flames that could dissolve magical effects. i have not bothered adapting this to 5e as a homebrew spell.

[misty vault]

a cleric prays to their god and says, "I got a idea for a spell." The god is like sure, miracle granted.

[worn lagoon]

"hey bahamut, can you inspire me to invent nuclear bombs?"

[misty vault]

bard comes up with a new pick up line to seduce that dragon

[tall forge]

Spells (besides cleric spells and debatably warlock) are made by people to be used

Ie. melfs acid arrow

Melf made that

[misty vault]

my favorite is still Jim's Magic Missile.

Components: V, S, M (1 gold coin, which is consumed as tax for using the spell)

[rugged hawk]

Mmm, yep. Like Evard's Spiked Tentacles.

[naive cedar]

Or Tasha’s hideous laughter

[tall forge]

Evard that freak….

[worn lagoon]

all fun and games until one wizard invents x's malignant tumor

[naive cedar]

Or x’s instant brain aneurysm

[tall forge]

Thats power word kill

[still plover]

Perception.

Investigation is deduction, putting together clues, finding accurate conclusions from the evidence presented.

You might use an Investigation check to grant advantage to a Perception roll to search an area for something, I feel.

[worn lagoon]

hitting you with evren's apoplexy/stroke

[naive cedar]

This is worse though

I wonder if people in the dnd world walk up to wizards and say things like “so you invent spells eh? Can you invent “x’s instant pizza 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣”

like the guards in Skyrim

[umbral girder]

Yeah Otto is a bard who invented a spell

[naive cedar]

Gale’s Cure Knee Pain

[umbral girder]

The dancing spell

[worn lagoon]

if modern medicine advanced on faerun we'd get some extremely unethical spells really fast huh

[naive cedar]

Oh you’re right

[worn lagoon]

i mean, even more unethical than the ones we already have

[spring glen]

My favorite spell that a wizard created was one that teleported dragons. They dragons figured out where he was and killed him. The spell was lost

[tall forge]

Oh otto. Immortal for like, barely any reason other than hes so silly

[naive cedar]

Gale’s Permanent Illusionary Abs

[light cave]

Anyone else don’t understand the player looking for dm thing in having a hard time finding a campaign with people

[tall forge]

Otto in universe is (age) immortal fun fact to anyone who didnt know

[burnt valley]

evil larry's forced plastic modifications

[umbral girder]

#find-a-game explains how it works. And yeah finding a game can take months as a Player.

[rugged hawk]

Well yeah, that's what happened to the guy who made.... it was either the original Staff of Power or Wands of Magic Missile. Got nuked by like 50 other high-level wizards who didn't like the guy making 'shortcuts to power' for upcoming apprentices.

[light cave]

MONTHS

[umbral girder]

The DM to Player ratio is big

[naive cedar]

Yep

[light cave]

Bra thats to long im not doing ts

[still plover]

Looking for DM is where you put yourself out there as a player to be recruited. The quality of your ad can affect your chances.

[loud tendon]

You probably want to respond to ads in #looking-for-players if you want a dm who is running a table.

#looking-for-dm is where players tell dms about themselves.

[umbral girder]

Now if you are a DM looking for a group then it takes a few seconds.

[still plover]

If your post says:

"I wanna play some dnd"
"available whenever"
"discord and stuff"

Probably not going to get many hits back.

[spring glen]

My group has 7 players I'm a well fed DM

[umbral girder]

Yeah being more specific and detailed gets you more options

[burnt valley]

Being narrative focused draws in more people because its the majority

[keen valve]

Yeah, I don't reply to those because the last time I did the DM deleted their account after inviting us. It's very testy waters for those posts.

[worn lagoon]

looking for dm tends to be pretty fruitless, you are better off responding to dms actively looking for players in the other chat

[halcyon bison]

Why are you eating your players D:

[spring glen]

If you really want to play you can also DM. It's scary at first but you will only get better at doing it only of you try. The only thing stopping you is you

[violet basin]

I find that I can say just about anything in my "looking for a group to play in" as long as I say a few specific things.

1. i dont play h***y bard.
2. I dont play murderhobo, unless that is what the campaign is.

[tall forge]

trapping another soul into the forever dm role….

[keen valve]

Speaking as a DM, if you aren't eating your players, you're failing as a dm. It's half the fun of the process of making them suffer.

[spring glen]

Ofc

[plush leaf]

uhhh anyone got a spot in a campaign / session zero for a cleric.... idk if this is the right place to msg but im doing it anyways

[still plover]

"I've played for (some time) up to about level (this)."
"I enjoy tactical combat but really like character play too."
"I'm really into exploring homebrew settings and love interacting with NPCs."
"I'm in GMT+X, available Fri-Weds weekly between 1700-2330, and would prefer to play over voice."

That's an ad.

[light cave]

But why thats like good info im so available

[still plover]

To rephrase my last: that's an ad from a player I would look at.

[fair summit]

Nobody is available "whenever"
Timezones are a thing which people often forget

[limber trail]

It doesn’t really say all too much information about you as a person. When I’m looking for players I’m looking for people who have a lot of personality, who are precise, and would be a great fit. that post that mr smith posted doesn’t do any of those things

[light cave]

I am

[worn lagoon]

Disintegrate your players!

[loud tendon]

If you put some time and effort into your post it tells perspective dms that you will likely also put time and effort into their games.
Giving some specifics helps you stand out from the crowd and know if your times match

[light cave]

Im full of emotion i just wanna play my first campaign

[plush leaf]

lets go bro me and you rn

[worn lagoon]

You know what, come over. We just had someone dip after failing to make it to session 1.

[light cave]

Done

[limber trail]

Would you play weekly at 4am on a Tuesday?

[worn lagoon]

Perfect. I'll get you in touch with the DM.

[light cave]

Yes i have no life im always free

[loud tendon]

Please take group formation to DMs or use the looking for channels.

Posts outside those channels will be removed for off topic posting.

[wanton sorrel]

x'D

[still plover]

(Hope you meant the first one!)

[worn lagoon]

That was all, we're done dw.

[wanton sorrel]

anyway.... what is your favorite looking D&D dice?

[worn lagoon]

I like the D12

It's because of that one kakegurui scene that's all over twitter lmao

[still plover]

D12 is the best die.

[wanton sorrel]

I mean the desgin of the dice..

[fair condor]

D1

[minor cargo]

I have a set that looks like jade (but they’re resin). Following that I have a set that are metallic black with very subtle black writing on them (they’re modelled after hematite).

[wanton sorrel]

I seen like a lot of D&D set dice with weird designs and they look super cool.

[worn lagoon]

Oomf made one with little eyes in them, those were cool

[wanton sorrel]

0_0 cool dice

i do see bubbles on my d20 dice T_T and i bought that for like 6.13

[loud tendon]

They are really display only dice for me, but i have a set with holographic glass that are just gorgeous to look at

[worn lagoon]

I'm planning to commision some custom die eventually. I just haven't had an irl table of DnD yet.

[wanton sorrel]

i have a D&D table... it's called the kitchen table....

[keen valve]

Check out ducky dice, they are arguably the best design. Because they have ducks in them.

If you have ducks in your dice, you are the best person ever.

[wanton sorrel]

i seen ducky dice before... it's an ok dice...

[woven flint]

I get to play my Harengon Bladesinger after Two Months today!!!
I'm ascending, friends.

[wanton sorrel]

your ascending to heaven?

[cloud peak]

Hey guys how does the roll for your stats work cause I think I did it wrong

[plush leaf]

i have a dnd table with leds in it, and a tv that i project my boards onto. Occasionally ill use 3d pieces for more intricate sets... also cup holders for everyone's beer.

[woven flint]

Heaven? No...
Uh...
Hmmm...

[cloud peak]

That’s actually so cool

[keen valve]

You're going to be at an ok 0 hp in a little while here. I am disgusted by your INCREDULOUS slander.
(Dramatic.)

[plush leaf]

i ended up making it myself because all the one's i saw online cost 3000$+ and i could not excuse that kind of purchase

[keen valve]

Wait, like you've been waiting? Or you've been playing them for a while?

[wanton sorrel]

I still get to roll right?

[woven flint]

I've been playing him for a while, it's just been two months since I've been able to

[grizzled plank]

Hello

[woven flint]

His name is Malaketh :p

[keen valve]

You mentioned him before to me, I hope you enjoy playing em.

[glossy jetty]

any games playing today

[keen valve]

Instant, unavoidable, death.

[wanton sorrel]

sorry if i had offend you in anyway... but i like the cloud dice.. nice and sparkly purple.

[woven flint]

Aye, he's my Wizard fellow with 30 Intelligence and a Dragon 'daughter'

[keen valve]

You have not, I am surprised a little though, most people find the gimmick awesome.
But tbf, I can get it. I'm not very fond of most dice because I find them gaudy.

[halcyon bison]

It is snowy outside for me

Good morning peoples

[wanton sorrel]

helllo there

[keen valve]

Hmu sometime if you want a dragon son.

[grizzled plank]

It’s raining outside for me

[woven flint]

Lmao, he got his daughter by drawing from a deck of many things

He drew the Dragon Card

[minor cargo]

It’ll depend on the group. The basic rules list 3 ways to do it: standard array, roll 4d6 keep highest 3, and point but.

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character

[keen valve]

I recall there being one game I saw where everyone started with 8 in all stats, and got +1 to one of their stats per level. I forgot how it went though.

[wanton sorrel]

standard array is ok... but i perfer roll 4d6 and keep the highest 3

[cloud peak]

Yea I mean how does the rolling one work

Ik the rest

[loud tendon]

Different dms may rule differently but the basic rules express the method thusly: "Random Generation. Roll four d6s and record the total of the highest three dice. Do this five more times, so you have six numbers"

[keen valve]

I prefer a standard wherein individuals are assured one good and one bad stat.
I think there are too many instances of people being everyman.

[halcyon bison]

I like point buy the most

[minor cargo]

So you roll 4 six sided dice (shorthand; 4d6). You then keep the highest three results.

For examples let say I rolled: 6, 2, 4, 3. The lowest is two so I toss that. I then have 6, 3, and 4. That’s a 13. So I can put a 13 in one my ability scores.

Repeat five more times to get all six ability scores!

[wanton sorrel]

but if you roll 4 1's your doomed is near. although you might be the best yatzee person though...

[keen valve]

If your DM forced you to keep that, I would say your doom was already ensured.

[lavish flame]

Usually, you roll 4d6 (4 six-sided dice) but you only count the highest 3 results (example: I roll a 4,5,6, and 3. I only count the 4, 5, and 6, the 3 doesn't influence the roll). You then repeat this for how many ability scores you have, usually you do this 6 times.

[worn lagoon]

Generally on top of roll 4d6 drop lowest, I enforce a lower and a higher limit

[wanton sorrel]

if i roll a 3-8 i'm going to put it in wis or cha... for fighter... if i was a magic caster... i would put it in str first... than dex

[worn lagoon]

If lower, reroll
If higher, nerf a stat of your choice or make a solid argument as to why it's cool

Mostly the former rule has been in effect

[lavish flame]

Often people havw their own spins on it. When I first started, we rolled 1d20 per stat and just had a high and low bound of "you can't get a 1 or 2, just a 3. You can't get 19 or 20, just 18"

[minor cargo]

Yeah there’s a lot of ways of doing it. I think rerolling 1s can also get fun results.

Though these days I just came to realize I have more fun when the PCs have higher stats, so I just do PB with a higher starting pool.

[keen valve]

I feel like you can't have that be true for int, since that would mean you would essentially be feral.

[worn lagoon]

I like rolls giving players an excess of stats because my sorcerer gets to be a smart egg and it fits his background

It doesn't make him that much better in combat. INT saves aren't that common. But it's cool! I get to have a wizard ritual book.

[lavish flame]

why wouldnt it be? I had a character with a 4 int this way

[small heath]

We did rolls in one of my newer campaign and one of my rolls was a 1 2 2 2 💀

[glad arch]

Comparing that to creature statblocks that is a non functional level of intelligence for a sentient character

[worn lagoon]

Isn't that dumb enough for some spells with min intelligence limits to completely ignore you?

oh gods, it is. you are immune to hideous laughter out of sheer stupidity.

[glad arch]

Mechanically you can play 4 int just fine

[lavish flame]

no, they're usually looking for 3 int or lower.

[cloud peak]

Ok so if the first time I get a total of 12 I add that? Like all the 4d6 dropping the lowest equaled to 12

[worn lagoon]

It's 4 or lower for laughter at least, ig

[lavish flame]

but like guys you can roll a 3 with regular rolling why is there an issue there

[worn lagoon]

well it's a one in 1/186 isn't it

wait, no, even lower

[lavish flame]

Yeah, you mark that down somewhere as 1 of ur stats. You assign where they go after getting them all

[glad arch]

4 ones so 1/6^4

[worn lagoon]

I forgot the "drop lowest" yeah

[glad arch]

1/1296

Youre more likely to get an 18 then a 3

[wanton sorrel]

can a player even survive with all 1's on a stat character sheet?

[lavish flame]

yeah its just harder

[glad arch]

Mechanically yes, in reality youd probably be some mindless goo

[lavish flame]

your unarmored AC is gonna be 5, so wear heavy armor

[wanton sorrel]

couldn't i just be a tortle with the shell armor of ac 17?

[lavish flame]

your health is gonna be abysmal with a -5 to every level up roll. you are saved by minimums tho

[glad arch]

2hp when picking average on a barbarian

[proper forum]

What if I use the command spell but instead of "drop" or "grovel" I say "breakdance"

[wanton sorrel]

and another 2 for tough feat?

[lavish flame]

you're gonna want the tough feat so yeah

[glad arch]

If all your stats are 1 just sacrifice yourself to the nearest enemy

[proper forum]

My question is does the command spell work for any word

[wanton sorrel]

so if a person with 1 stats... can they survive 3 sessions of combat?

[glad arch]

2014, yes 2024 has a set list

*cant directly deal damage for 2014 command

[lavish flame]

In 2014, it did yes. In 2024 they provided you a list of options to work with.

[glad arch]

Depends on the combat

[lavish flame]

Yeah, there are still boundaries to Command's power in 2014

[lavish flame]

Depends on a million variables, but within a party of adventurers, yeah

[proper forum]

So I can't just tell the enemy to breakdance? I am disappointed.

[wanton sorrel]

couldn't we just buy 3 hirelings and sit back?

[glad arch]

Depends, do you have money. Does the dm provide the option

[wanton sorrel]

huh... good point

[proper forum]

Very disappointed, actually. That's very limiting to the creativity of the players.

[glad arch]

And hirelings arent gonna save you when you fight tiamat

[proper forum]

The command spell limitations, I mean

[glad arch]

Im assuming they changed it to make it easier to handle for dm's

[marble lion]

That would work

A command will work as long as its possible, 1 word, and doesnt directly cause harm to them

So breakdance should work unless theyre balancing over lava right now

Ofc they might be so bad at it it doesnt look much like a breakdance

Im also not sure if they need to know what breakdancing is first. It might just be you magically forcing them to do a thing you know, regardless of their own understanding

[glad arch]

Only in 2014 though, and based on their reaction theyre playing 2024

[proper forum]

I just want to laugh at the 7 foot orc attempting to breakdance

[marble lion]

24 doesnt work?

[glad arch]

Nope, they changed it to a set list of commands

[marble lion]

Good thing you can ignore rules at leisure

[proper forum]

I don't even know what I'm playing to be honest and the dm doesn't seem to know either

[marble lion]

Did you ask directly?

[glad arch]

You cant just ignore rules as a player

[marble lion]

Yeah but as a table

[rugged hawk]

Sure you can, you just have to be able to BS the DM into allowing it

[glad arch]

Hell id say you cant even just do it as a dm without setting off some red flags

[marble lion]

Yes

And yet i would 100% ignore the restriction of commands

Sounds very boring to me

1word and no harm are already plenty restrictive

[glad arch]

Yeh but thats generalising, we dont know what their dm or their game is like. Best bet is to bring stuff like this up to the dm youre playing with

[marble lion]

Indeed

[cloud peak]

How do I multi class in dnd beyond I can’t find the option

[glad arch]

In the section where you select your character class in a certain level there is a box at the bottom with 'add another class'

Just out of curiousity, is there any way as a player character to become vulnerable to a certain damage type. Mostly curious about a permanent vulnerability but temporary would be interesting too

[minor cargo]

Not really. Contagion (very high level spell) gives vulnerability to all damage types.

Grave Domain clerics can grant vulnerability in a round.

There’s bestow curse which allows you to suggest something but that’d be up to the DM.

[halcyon forum]

wild magic sorcerer, if you are unlucky

[keen valve]

Because you would essentially be a proto human.

Homo ergaster or something.

[lavish flame]

that can occur with regular rolling though

[keen valve]

Regular rolling causing bad stuff doesn't mean it's right.

Like if you roll a dice and break your knee before playing, that doesn't mean all's fair's fair.

[lavish flame]

like, you can get a 3 with regular rolling, so getting a 4 isn't some wholly new ordeal for a PC

clearly the game expects, on some level, that that is an acceptable ability score for a PC

[keen valve]

No, I think they are specifically not expecting for you to roll that.

Like in most examples it's usually something mild like 7-9, never below that though.

[lavish flame]

how do you reason that the game does not anticipate a PC having a dramatically low score?

following all the rules of the game, a PC can have such a score

[keen valve]

I guess you're right, but it just seems inherently flawed and incorrect somehow.

Like it's technically true, but through most bouts of logic isn't something you'd see on a normal basis.

[still plover]

If you roll your stats, you take what you get.

[tranquil temple]

Hey does anyone have an example of a boss for 4 level 6 players that could give them a challenge?

[rugged hawk]

I mean, you could always just summon up a slightly handicapped Tarrasque

[static nest]

in what ways a rouge PC can get one (or 2) of the blade cantrips not including multiclass and race? (2014)

[full wadi]

There's a feat called Magic Initiate. Gives you... two cantrips from a given list, iirc?

[lavish flame]

a Naga of some kind (prolly a Spirit Naga) with Yuan-Ti servants

[static nest]

other them Initiate of High Sorcery and magic initiate, there are more possible feats?
cuse i'm looking for a way to cast it with WIS and Initiate of High Sorcery rules as wiretten is not allowed

[full wadi]

Personally, idk. I'll let someone else chime in if they know

[static nest]

if only they were at the druid or clercic lists

[rugged hawk]

No free heals for you

[woven flint]

They give you access to
Wizard, Druid and Cleric cantrips (depending on which you choose/get)
And a first level spell from one of those lists

[worldly flare]

You know what’s annoying? I have a question I need to ask but the rules change is busy arguing about Swarms

[sleek cloud]

What question

[worldly flare]

Optimization stuff.

[eager marsh]

thats not a question for the rules channel anyways we have #optimization but also you can always ask a question in the rules channel and get an answer weather there is a current discussion or not

[worldly flare]

Well it’s questions about the rules regarding an optimization thing. Like my previous questions.

Also my concern is that they’ll be too busy to answer

[eager marsh]

the latter half is still true. ongoing discussions dont mean you cant ask something

by all means ask. I'm getting tired entertaining silly debates

[static remnant]

Hi guys

[worldly flare]

Fair enough, also hello

[static remnant]

Im pretty new to dnd, dont know how things work

Do we like go to a specific channel or is more of a gc thing?

[eager marsh]

nobody does dont worry. its why we argue semenatics

[harsh hinge]

You'll probably wanna check #dnd-newcomers, @static remnant!

[worldly flare]

Damn it I remembered the Pudding King is a unique creature and I can’t Shapechage into him. Stupid True Polymorph nerfs.

[glad arch]

Magic jar stuff again?...

[eager marsh]

The spell is still game breaking when abused I promise you lv 17+ spellcasters are still able to ruin the game if the DM lets them

[worldly flare]

Nope, but similar

I know. And I’m not doing anything with a DM, I’m doing it for love of the game. And it’s just annoying that every option seems to reach a dead end.

[glad arch]

What is it at the core that youre trying to do

[eager marsh]

if its for the love of the game then it doesnt matter what the rules say no? If you dont plan to do this as a player, the DM can handwave the rough rules limitations for plot

[worldly flare]

No the game is trying to get what I want while playing within the rules. There’s no DM, there’s no game, just me and my various books.

[glad arch]

Im guessing its one of those whats the max AC kinda love of the game

[static remnant]

thanks, hopefully I can find someone running a campaign!

[worldly flare]

Exactly!

I wanna own a monster form over CR 20 while maintaining my spellcasting. Cause I’m pretty sure for CR 20 you can just do the True Polymorph+Clone combo, at least I think that works, don’t remember off the top of my head.

[eager marsh]

Over CR20 isnt possible by the rules available as a player

[worldly flare]

I know that, but I’m trying to find some kind of loophole and weird combo. That’s what the magic jar and Intellect Devourer stuff was about.

[eager marsh]

there is no loophole. Clone wont let you obtain a permanent body that isnt your own

[static remnant]

Is there a place I can find out about the stuff you guys are talking about?

[eager marsh]

the rulebooks

[worldly flare]

I’m talking about some very complicated nonsense, I can DM you if you want.

[static remnant]

oh, that makes sense, thanks!

[worldly flare]

I know, but now I’ve dedicated a decent amount of time to this and it WILL feel like a loss if I can’t figure out something. Cause it feels SO CLOSE, I can taste it! It tastes delicious.

[static remnant]

uhm last thing, where is the rule book? I dont see a channel like that..

[eager marsh]

The rules are very specifically not meant to do what you're aiming for.

[thin drift]

Hey all new here, came to get some oppinions... open ended. I had a chat with my buddy and one thing hes not a fan of is unprompted skill checks.

The most famous.

DM: "You walk into the dungeon lobby, and see some dusty tomes on a molty table, covered in spiderwebs, give me a perception check."

He much prefers.

DM: "You walk into the dungeon lobby, and see some dusty tomes on a molty table, covered in spiderwebs"
Player: "I want to check the room for anything out of place"
DM: "Roll me passive perception"

I understand thats what passive perception is for, unprompted rolls, but i think some people are irritated by the lack of being able to roll for a chance to know critical information.

Thoughts?

[worldly flare]

I know… but a man can dream.

[eager marsh]

then keep dreaming on. I'm afraid that player facing options will not get you what you are aiming for within the official rules.

[harsh hinge]

They're here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

[worldly flare]

I will Ryunosuke, I will

[static remnant]

Damn, I'm exited with the amount of content, Is there a better way to try to reach out to a DM and join a campaign?

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

• Instructions for finding a game here on the server (including how to post in our #looking-for channels).
• Suggestions for finding a game outside of this server.
• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[full wadi]

Passive perception is a static number that effectively counts as a "roll result" for basic stuff within range someone could notice immediately on arriving to a scene or room.

A character with a high perception (roll modifier and passive perception number alike) would, per your example, immediately notice that one of the books on the table isn't dusty, but recently opened! They could jump right to approaching the table, grabbing the book, and investigating the contents.

A character with lower perception would notice the tomes on the table too. But they'd need to actively ask to roll to have a chance of discovering the above.

Just wanted to clarify that cause I was a little confused if your buddy understood the intended use of passive perception - to auto-resolve spotting stuff with a relatively low DC to detect (in addition to the primary use of resolving stealth mechanics)

[thin drift]

yeah i may not have worded it well, but yeah

[full wadi]

If my explanation makes sense, then passive perception is a massive time saving tool for DMs. Of course any given player or creature is gonna do a basic sweep of any large area they enter or re-enter.

Active rolls are if they wanna look closer

[small heath]

I just realized 2023 was a crazy year for D&D fans. The movie and BG3 dropping.

[severe rampart]

There was a movie?

[small heath]

You never knew?

[full wadi]

A high perception cleric via their Wis mod, or rogue with expertise in the same skill, is gonna notice more without needing to roll on account of a higher passive perception. This should be a surprise to very few people, in or out of character.

[eager marsh]

there was yes. it was right after the OGL incident however so there was a lot of boycotting on principal going around

[small heath]

What's the OGL incident?

[severe rampart]

Oh yeah, I was also wondering, are there any optimized games I could watch online? I don't think I'll ever play a hyper-optimized character but I want to see how people play them

[hidden spindle]

I agree. Unless its Initiative, the players should be doing player things and the DM decides whether it demands a roll or not.

[thin drift]

Omg another Gwyn spelled with a Y =3

[lavish flame]

the Open Game License (OGL) was a document made by Wizards of the Coast (WOTC) back in the 2000s or something, it enabled people to make third-party products using the D&D rules. In 2022 or so, Wizards of the Coast attempted to change the OGL to make it a little more restrictive and gave WOTC a lot more power in the relationship. People were very vocal about how terrible it was, how anti-consumer the new proposition was. Eventually, they reverted back to the original OGL and even put the SRD into Creative Commons.

[lavish flame]

yooooo! I got it from Dark Souls lmao

[thin drift]

SAMESY

[small heath]

Interesting history!

So I'd imagine both the movie and BG3, probably during their production, had to make some adjustments while all of this was going on.

[full wadi]

Two Gwyns! Woah!

But yeah @thin drift hopefully my comments made sense, lmk if you need me to clarify anything

[eager marsh]

They didn’t lost likely both were already licensed by WotC before hand

[small heath]

Ah, gotcha.

[thorny berry]

I’ve created an aarakocra bard named Jarnithan Morgan, he plays the fiddle and is based off of a sandgrouse

[vernal vale]

I'm making my map and I have a city that I want to be named after the 'founder', her last name is Godlance, how could I turn that into a city name?

[eager marsh]

The City of Godlance is plenty direct

[vernal vale]

Idk it sounds off to me?

[severe rampart]

I feel like if you cut off the "God" part and base the name off of "Lance" that really opens up some possibilities

[vernal vale]

I might just be stupid but I can't think of any omg 😭😭

[robust galleon]

How do I find a quick game bruh the DM gave up i was waiting for my first game

[crimson gulch]

For a quick game, start playing . Games, the lfg channels here are if you have more patience

[robust galleon]

Yeah but where do I look for quick games

[crimson gulch]

Start playing . Games it's a website

[robust galleon]

Ohh alr

20$ 😂✌🏻

[severe rampart]

Some of them are paid, and if those aren't for you then you don't have to play, if you're patient there's plenty of free games in the #find-a-game channels

[fair summit]

Yeah, you're not gonna just find a "quick game"
Finding a game will take time, finding a good one that may fit your requirements potentially even more so 😛

[eternal tendon]

A D&D Monster Hunter: World living world would be SICK. Especially with opportunities to build and expand colonies in the new world, while events can have monsters rampage and pillage colonies.

[severe rampart]

how do you simulate a "DPS race" with characters in DnD beyond?

[fair summit]

A race isn't gonna be a major part contributing to your dps, generally. Most of the races tend to have few simple features that work with your other abilities from your race, but aren't gonna be a major boost to anything

[robust galleon]

GENIUS

[severe rampart]

... Race... as in "Fastest wins"

[fair summit]

How's DPS work with that?

[severe rampart]

I'm seeing if I can make a level 2 character beat a level 8 character in a DPS race

[fair summit]

And DPS here stands for...?

[severe rampart]

Damage Per Second, well I guess per turn, I just need to see

because boy I don't know what I was thinking when I made the level 8 character

[eternal tendon]

Probably the snowman race mixed with Barbarian, just a thought

[severe rampart]

not "race" as in species 😭

[eternal tendon]

You use the term species? 5.5 isn't canon prove me wrong

Anyways uh... Probably Tabaxi since they can easily get distance after an attack, although you have to deal with being called a furry

Hadozee is pretty good if you're creative

[umbral girder]

DPR is what is used here. Damage Per Round

Since some characters can do damage with a reaction as well.

[hidden spindle]

Its just 5e

[rough basalt]

New corebooks are just 5es true form they built up for several years.

[hushed mason]

Not "guys", folks.

[severe rampart]

Pardon me, it's a slip up

[hushed mason]

We're all learning. I still use "race" because I play an old edition.

[eternal tendon]

Nah it's entities

[hushed mason]

That works, too. "Folks" is just kind of more fluffy around the edges.

[eternal tendon]

I was joking 💀

[umbral girder]

Guys its D&D. Clearly we use "Creatures" /jk

[eternal tendon]

"I'm playing Albert Wesker, so I'll be referring to everybody as pawns throughout the campaign"

Ngl tho I'm still just going to refer to everyone as a dude, as a Californian it's my right

[livid slate]

Yo just wanted to hear y'all POV on a story I had for a campaign
Basically a big ass Titan wants to squish all three worlds together to force every creature to live in the same plan in hopes of making war and chaos, what do y'all think?

[ornate hearth]

why does he want to wreak havoc on the worlds? whats his motive?

[livid slate]

Chaos. He just wants to see them all start war for his pure amusement

[livid slate]

(I will be open to suggestions on additions to this. This is just the main idea / quest)

[ornate hearth]

and what are the players backround, what are they trying to do and what will they do stop him

[livid slate]

Ive been unsure about this.

Obv I can't have them fight him without obtaining some sort of relic to give them chance, but i also need for a reason for him to not just squish the realms whenever, a limit or smth

[ornate hearth]

so say that he needs the power of gods, and relics to have enough power and grow to be celestial sized

[livid slate]

Should I make it so that the players use said relics to beat him?

[still plover]

Anyone hosting a campaign on dnd beyond currently?

[livid slate]

Check looking for players

[ornate hearth]

yeah or do it where like theyre racing to get the relics first to stop said titan and defeat him

[livid slate]

I kinda wanna make more then just one so that the player get access to some and the God/Titan another?

[ornate hearth]

ok so make the relics like chaos emeralds, you have to get a certain amount of relics in order to harvest the power and defeat the titan or crash the worlds together

[livid slate]

Here me out, I say we have each relic for a different reason

[ornate hearth]

and each relic corresponds to a different property needed to do said things

[livid slate]

One makes you big enough to do it, one strong enough, and so on

[ornate hearth]

yeah exactly what i said

[livid slate]

But like without then necessarily being connected to one another.

[ornate hearth]

like how?

[livid slate]

Just magic relics that gods made, which the Titan/God will combine the power of some to get what he needs, so there not all necessarily connected but they are what he needs

Think of it like a quest to get ingredients for a potion

They ingredients don't reeLly have correlation but together they make funny

Also what I really can't think of is how it affects the people.

Idk of it should be more purge cause of fear or create factions with each ideal

[ornate hearth]

ok then make one of the relics correspond with like chaos

[livid slate]

Maybe like one that encourages war yk

Maybe like a relic form the celestial and blame someone else

Or just one that creates chaos

[ornate hearth]

ok yeah thats good, quick question tho, is this campaign like based of greek deites/gods?

[livid slate]

Nope, (well maybe what Im trying to create is like titanomachy vibe) but nah ima just make my own gods

[ornate hearth]

oh got it

[livid slate]

.

Ive been told by my players they want a campaign with a constant danger zone and close to no safety so I thought of a purge but factions would make more sense

[ornate hearth]

oh so itll be in like constant panic/fights

[livid slate]

Or should I do both?

[livid slate]

Yup. They said quote to quote
"I want this to be horror, not scary. I should be scared of my life ever living second"

[ornate hearth]

probably more so danger but with a bit of calm

[livid slate]

So faction or full on fear purge?

[ornate hearth]

yeah

but slight calmliness

[lyric idol]

Existential horror

[livid slate]

Exactly!

[livid slate]

Alr, any other ideas or do I start building?

[ornate hearth]

Bro do you want them to be like HEEELLPPPP 24/7?

[livid slate]

Not under danger, under stress of danger

They wanna have so many heart attack moments they will never truly know if safety is there

[ornate hearth]

so you want them to be SCARED that theyre in danger but theyre not actually?

[livid slate]

Yup, constantly (why do they want this???)

[livid echo]

Wanted y’all’s opinion is 1 hour sessions to short are they doable? I am just about to start my game master journey with my senior father and my elder sister both are very interested in learning to play - neither have a lot of time to play maybe an hour - hour and a half every Saturday evening

Would this work out?

[dapper cloud]

Ehhh, you’ll probably be fine.

[livid echo]

Kk Ty

[dapper cloud]

Two hour sessions are definitely doable.

[ornate hearth]

nah i personally think that one hour is too short, my sessions are 3 hours minimum

but hour and a half or two hours is doable

[still plover]

You can play an hour at a time, but I would recommend shorter adventures.

[livid echo]

I may be able to stretch it to 2 hour sessions to start and see if they can squeeze in an extra hour down the line like they see how rushed it is

Yeah I definitely plan on doing short 1 shots with them with pre generated characters think like a tv show episode maybe 1 combat and like 1-2 supporting scenes for them to work through

At least to start

[ornate hearth]

yeah prolly

[still plover]

Episodic, yes.

[livid echo]

Cool Ty all for the helpful tips I am eager to see how they like it

If they fall in love with the game I could see them wanting more I think their initial hesitation to commit to long sessions is like they don’t know if they like it and probably suspect it’s an ongoing campaign with commitments

(it’s not it’s very casual between family members so I’m sure I can reduce their doubts and fears)

[delicate owl]

How is everyone doing today?

[severe rampart]

it's a monday unfortunately but so far so good

[delicate owl]

Ahh alrighty

[severe rampart]

thinking of maybe making a oneshot

[vale sage]

Seriously man cmon

I js wanna play rn🫩

[loud tendon]

@vale sage apologies, but there are no exceptions to the looking for group rules.

Otherwise everyone would just post here and nothing would get discussed properly.

[delicate owl]

I was going to point them towards the channel and inform them haha, too slow. But many here actually just have notifications on ONLY in said channels where players and DM's look for a DM or players. So posting here would do nothing haha

[vale sage]

I-Im sorry calamity jayn..forgive me.

[loud tendon]

Not now, Nugget. 🗞️

[vale sage]

Yeah Nugget

[glass granite]

Yes Ma’am, apologies

[honest veldt]

how do i join a game (me as player)

[glass granite]

I recommend checking out #find-a-game for instructions

Actually I’ve been thinking about it, one of my player’s birthdays is coming up, what would be a good non-dice dnd gift 🤔 ?

[crisp lake]

A dice bag, dice jail

[glass granite]

I’ve considered minis, but the rest of the table doesn’t use minis so I’m not too sure if they’ll use it much, plus I don’t know many great-
Genius /hj

[loud tendon]

Do they take physical notes? There are some pretty cool notebooks

[glass granite]

No, they prefer typing it out

[crisp lake]

minis are always cool

[glass granite]

Was considering that

[loud tendon]

Dice bags are always cool. Rolling trays can be customized as well.

[glass granite]

Oh rolling trays! They don’t have one yet!

Completely forgot about them!
I’ll jot it down next to dice jail/bag.

[crisp lake]

these are also really cool

you could also commision an artist to make character art as a gift

i did that a little while ago

[hidden spindle]

A character class pin. Or a pin in general.

[jade garden]

Guys I got my first nat 20 on Friday

[glass granite]

Woohooo!

[crisp lake]

noice

[jade garden]

Thx

And it was like acc important as well like stopped a bad guy and everything

[severe rampart]

hell yeah man

[rugged hawk]

Have fun, the cost of each nat 20 is a nat 1 on your next death saving throw 👀 /s

[severe rampart]

proud to say I have never had a PC death, I have however had to bury numerous PCs I made for campaigns where the DMs sucked

[jade garden]

Well that sucks especially considering that are dm said to expect our characters to die

[severe rampart]

rest in peace Silas and Azaez my Ranger and Warlock

[rugged hawk]

Oooh, no. I played on EfU for the better part of two decades. I've had tons of chars end up dying in all sorts of horrible ways.

[severe rampart]

Can't wait for my character to do that

[jade garden]

I’m not excited to have my first character death apparently it’s rlly sad

Also what’re ur guys’s thoughts on the mighty nein

[severe rampart]

Peak show peak cast

[jade garden]

Yea I agree who’s ur fav character

Watching vox machina now bc i liked mighty nein so much

[severe rampart]

a bit basic, Nott The Brave

[jade garden]

That’s so fair

[rugged hawk]

Let's see.... one got ganked by a floating skull while protecting someone else (she used Haste on them so they could flee). Another killed herself (and everyone around her) in the square during her execution. She was ressurected, then killed herself again to prevent being sacrificed to a demon.... then raised and got killed by a rival arcanist.

[jade garden]

I like her or jester or Molly

[severe rampart]

you died 3 times as the same character?

[rugged hawk]

Yep.

That same char got kidnapped 18 times in three months.

[severe rampart]

by the third time was it different

[jade garden]

That’s like a ton of trauma for one character

[severe rampart]

WHAT did you do

[glass granite]

Gotta be a record

[severe rampart]

Let's try to break it!

[rugged hawk]

Well, the first time was a half-orc ranger who wanted a cave maid.... killed him in his sleep with his frying pan. Then there was the mage guild - they released her when she began organizing their piles of tomes and dusting. Then they re-kidnapped and raised her when the town tried to execute her.....

[severe rampart]

does your DM hate you

[rugged hawk]

...then there was the wild halfling who tried to rescue her from the mage guild's servitude (she actually didn't care, because she wasn't attached to life and all the mages could do was threaten to kill her)....

[severe rampart]

right, I think by the third time you get revived, you just gotta decline

[loud tendon]

If you're going to walk though like 10 more kidnappings, please move to #tales-from-the-table

[rugged hawk]

Ah, Jayn's still alive. Good to see.

[loud tendon]

Also, get that poor character an emotional suppprt familiar and a tracking stone.

[craggy ingot]

it's so awesome, peak show and even better cause it's based on a real dnd campaign

[jade garden]

Yea

[fast garnet]

A question: Does anyone know how i can prepare for a homebrew dnd story, i have the map and the general idea of the plot and how i want to incorporate the characters, but thats about it actually

[glass granite]

Do you have an overarching issue?

[fast garnet]

what is that? (sorry eglish isnt my first language)

english*

[severe rampart]

the main conflict, or reason as to why your characters are together

[glass granite]

What’s the problem that is gonna shape the world around them?

[fast garnet]

i have a general idea. the artificer is paid to be there, the tabaxi sorcerer because of secret work and the astral elf because he needs to find out what his family did while being hidden.

[fast garnet]

a traitor noble family who wishes to bring down the royal family who is blessed by the deity of stars

[severe rampart]

and they have to kill the noble?

[fast garnet]

a few members of this family have been working to steal all the stars forming the constellation of the deity who gives the power to the royal family. they want to use these stars to bring them down and bring a new age to the empire.
They dont have to kill the nobles but the big conflict is that they are on the royals side (the astral elf is one of the family members who doesnt know whats going on but feels the need to stop them, the artificer is the only one with enough skill and godly power to be able to put the constellation together and the tabaxi is the only one who has an option of intelligence gathering)

im sorry this must seem very dumb or weird but this is my first ever homebrew campiagn ig?

[glass granite]

Doesn’t seem too bad

It’s got potential

[fast garnet]

thanks!

what should i work on cuz thats the part im lost at

[glass granite]

Start worldbuilding the main resistance to this issue, as well as potential major locations the party might go to.

[fast garnet]

a map i already have but i dont know how i should or what could be the main resistance

i thought about making a few nobles traitorous aswell but thats just too one dimensional yk?

[severe rampart]

Shift in power maybe

[fast garnet]

could you elaborate on that?

[severe rampart]

The royal family's ___ was taken hostage/prisoner, now the traitor nobles have leverage over the royals.

[fast garnet]

im getting my notebook wait

[severe rampart]

Say, the Royal Family was the one thing holding the nobles back.

[fast garnet]

hmm but that would be easily found out wouldnt it?

i do want the royal family to be positive in this campaign

[glass granite]

Introduce, wild card third party: Viva la Revolution!

[fast garnet]

they are essentially non caring for the ruling part leaving it up to the nobles. theyre just in the highest position because they were chosen by their deity themselfs

[glass granite]

People will do many things to protect their reputation. Maybe they said that whoever went missing got sick and won’t show their face.

[fast garnet]

and as such could be considered holy if you guys get what i mean?

[fast garnet]

thats a cool idea!

[glass granite]

Mhm!

Chosen by gods, but not by man.

[glass granite]

Smells like a revolution!

[fast garnet]

what could the premise or the reason behind the revolution be? would they be like against noility and class themselfs or?

[rugged hawk]

Okay, but if you wanna add a wild card, I'd suggest the Deck of Several Things, instead.

[fast garnet]

and whats that if i may ask?

[glass granite]

Would likely be against the royal family, and the nobility that would fill their place in power

[severe rampart]

Why not Deck of Many Things?

[rugged hawk]

It's like the Deck of Many Things, but potentially less awesome / less terrifying

[severe rampart]

it's a gamble

think Tarot Cards but they actually come true

[shrewd walrus]

hello

[fast garnet]

against the noble families themself would be cool since they lowk form an oligarchy

[rugged hawk]

Deck of Many Things / Deck of Several Things are gambling cards with magic effects. Those effects range from AWESOME to INSTANT DOOM FOR YOU.

[fast garnet]

OH THATS COOL

[glass granite]

They break into the court wizard’s vault and harness the power of the forbidden artifact to fuel their powers

[shrewd walrus]

im looking for a dnd group where can i fins one

[fast garnet]

do i need to pay for that or where can i get those?

[severe rampart]

#find-a-game

[glass granite]

Read through #find-a-game

[shrewd walrus]

thanks]

[severe rampart]

They are an in game item, don't worry

[rugged hawk]

And then immediately draw Death and have to fight soul eaters.

[fast garnet]

so the players themself would need to interact with it? how could i implement this? (im so sorry im still very new to dming)

[severe rampart]

it was mostly a joke, the deck of many things is a very risky gamble that could easily wipe the party

[glass granite]

Yeah…

[rugged hawk]

The kicker is that a player has to announce how many cards they'll draw, then they're magically forced to draw that many cards, no matter how poorly it goes for them.

[severe rampart]

13 Good Cards, 13 Bad Cards

[glass granite]

Wouldn’t recommend it to a new DM personally

[fast garnet]

oh ok!

[severe rampart]

I do want to make a custom "Deck of Heroes" thing, where at the start of the campaign, players will encounter this "fortune teller" and have the option to draw one card per PC

[rugged hawk]

But that's homebrew

I say as I made a custom Patron for my warlock from Undead and Undying patrons.

[severe rampart]

it's mostly good things, don't worry

[rough basalt]

Fortune tellers fun

[fast garnet]

well thanks for the help!

[severe rampart]

and the effects aren't that extreme

[rough basalt]

My players won't trust a random deck to draw from again lol

[rugged hawk]

Neither's the merged patron, imo. I'd just mixed their abilities together, getting rid of some from one side and some from the other. Kept their mutual spells, added a single replacement for the three they don't share.

[severe rampart]

And then later into the campaign, they'll run into another fortune teller, except the deck is actually the Deck of Many Things.

[minor cargo]

I personally think the DOMT at the start of the campaign is a little too chaotic, especially with the risk of just killing a character.

Alternatively, I think a Tarot card reading (or similar) to kick off character creation? That could be good I a similar way.

[severe rampart]

Deck of Heroes will be a homebrew thing for me, mostly good things for those who draw from it

[minor cargo]

Oh deck of heroes. My bad.

[rugged hawk]

Well, you can always let them have access to a pre-used Deck with the most extreme good/bad effects removed.

[rough basalt]

I had the Deck appear in the first session of my Monday campaign

[severe rampart]

think like "The Glory" (+1 Strength, not inspired by Heracles at all)

[crimson gulch]

Dexk of many things is amazing

[rough basalt]

Reminds me of the Gamemasters boons and banes

[severe rampart]

It is amazing, though I would never draw from it

[rough basalt]

I wanna use them at some point.

[crimson gulch]

I put it in every campaign

[rough basalt]

First time I see a Deck I'm drawing from it.

[crimson gulch]

My players are danger junkeys

[rugged hawk]

Unfortunately, when you're a solo party, DoMT is suicidal unless there's literally no other options to escape a situation.

[severe rampart]

I heard you've killed 9 PCs just this month

[crimson gulch]

Yes that is correct

[jovial shadow]

Hm

[crimson gulch]

3 caught resurrection though

[severe rampart]

How so?

[crimson gulch]

Got*

[rough basalt]

It's been awhile since I've killed a PC

The PC "lost" due to the Deck is still alive.
Somewhere.

[crimson gulch]

This has been my busiest month for games so far, my 23rd session this month is today and it's the 25th

[severe rampart]

Oh wow!

[rough basalt]

They got donjoned

But in my world the "Donjon" is in the underworld.

Due to lore of the deck in my setting.

[jovial shadow]

Players getting killed left and right is a symptom of either bad players or inexperience DM'ing. IMO

Or both

[rugged hawk]

My Tymoran would've pulled a few cards from a Deck with no hesitation, but my warlock is all about being 'the contradiction in the cosmos of conformity'. She wouldn't trust her luck to a deity of fate and would sooner destroy a Deck if she found one.

[crimson gulch]

Neither in My case, it's on purpose

[rough basalt]

Sometimes players just have no sense of survival intentionally

[empty thicket]

my party almost got TPK against a boss

[rough basalt]

I usually kill a PC at least once a game tho I've yet to have a campaign conclude.

[crimson gulch]

Running a lot of hard encounters and openly rolling, players die

[rough basalt]

Ye I rarely run below Hard encounters

[proper shoal]

What dice bags do you guys use?

[empty thicket]

if it wasnt because i got 2 times nat20 in the death doors and the paladin kinda managed to survive (still i think the dm wanted to give him the last hit to kill the demon but the dice said something else ). But we got really tight

[crimson gulch]

A pencil case

[empty thicket]

more at the start that the artificer only used her feather fall on herself

[proper shoal]

Oh fr? I'm looking for one with compartments, tempted by the crit role ones but they're so pricey for what they are

[rough basalt]

I play online so I don't use my dice.

[crimson gulch]

Yeah I keep my dice in a pair of pencil cases that came with a costco set of coloured pencils

[rough basalt]

Except when I wanna roll magic items.

[glass granite]

I have a lil pouch for a bag dice

[woven flint]

I used steel wind strike and got 3 Natural 20's in a ROW just now!!! Lmao

[rough basalt]

Man I'd do anything for a smidge of dnd rn

[woven flint]

My Harengon Bladesinger was absolutely AURA farming

[severe rampart]

when you're so bored you start to roll google dice

[glass granite]

That was you?!
HELL YEAH

[woven flint]

Yes

[proper shoal]

Me and a friend had a spontaneous game with random people at a shop yesterday lmao

[halcyon bison]

I had a ttrpg drought over the holidays but now it looks like things are starting up again

[woven flint]

I'm shaking that shit was hype
I killed 2 huge enemies and bloodied one

[rough basalt]

Ye I don't remember the last time I touched the system it's been so long

[severe rampart]

Steel Wind Strike is so cool

[empty thicket]

i never touched a D20 dice i think, will see if in any next comicon or smt like that i find some place to play DnD irl

[woven flint]

I did a total of 228 damage spread across 4 enemies with it just now

[severe rampart]

I'm assuming as a... Ranger?

[woven flint]

No, Bladesinger Wizard lol

[severe rampart]

Rangers aren't even the best Steel Wind Strike users that's crazy 💔

[glass granite]

HOLY
that’s a lot of damage

[woven flint]

3 natural 20's in a row lol

[severe rampart]

the max damage is 300 with Steel Wind Strike, that's insane

[woven flint]

Of course it's a lot

Malaketh was locked in

My silly ol Harengon absolutely SLAPPED

[glass granite]

The heavens went “Bless the goof and his killer bunny”

[reef tundra]

And people say Ranger is bad

[woven flint]

Bladesinger Wizard, not a Ranger

[reef tundra]

I love that name

[woven flint]

Malaketh Dronnel, studier of the occult and very jolly Harengon Lad, also father of a Dragon and most intelligent mortal alive (30 Intelligence)

[reef tundra]

Holy damn, fire

[rough basalt]

I wanna play my paladin

Jane Dragon

[reef tundra]

WOAH

[severe rampart]

Are they perhaps related to John Dungeons

[rough basalt]

Tho I signed up for a different system cause I got impatient.

[woven flint]

Yup

[rough basalt]

Distant cousin

Kinda hope I don't hear back now.

Cause I need more 5e

[severe rampart]

I wanna play my Child Sorcerer who's a snob noble

[spring glen]

Tonight's session got cancelled 😞

[severe rampart]

unfortunate, I once had a DM cancel on us 7 minutes before the session

[spring glen]

I had to walk in the snow to my PC find out it was cancelled finally got back to where I'm staying

[worn lagoon]

I just kicked out a friend of 3-4 years from the campaign.

[spring glen]

That sucks

[unique tangle]

why'd you do that

[worn lagoon]

Too personal for a public server, it just feels both liberating and hollow

[crimson gulch]

That sucks when it's short notice, I had to cancel one a couple weeks ago on 1 hour notice because I slipped on the ice ans was injured

[glass granite]

Ouch

[normal canyon]

guys i got kicked out of my campaign by the dm

[stuck shuttle]

Yikes that sucks

How did that go down?

[normal canyon]

he said i got kicked out for insulting him, the players, and annoyance to the entire party.

apperantly

[glass granite]

Did the angry moth get too angry?

[normal canyon]

no. i just stayed true to my chaotic neutral alignment. Evne irl.

[glass granite]

Ah…

[stuck shuttle]

That seems… a bit vague?

[glass granite]

Getting Déjà vu

[normal canyon]

yeah. i als opinged everyone in the discord 200 times today because they were 1 minute later

[crimson gulch]

There's your problem, gotta still be a team player

[stuck shuttle]

You pinged 200 times and thought that was appropriate behavior??

[normal canyon]

yes

[crimson gulch]

Yeah that would do it to, 200 pings to everyone?

[normal canyon]

they were a minute late and i'm chaotic neutral alignment

[glass granite]

Being chaotic neutral doesn’t give an excuse to be disruptive or disrespectful, which the DM thought was what happened

And tbh, I am seeing why

[stuck shuttle]

Also alignment isn’t prescriptive anyway, so that doesn’t make sense 😭

[crimson gulch]

You are going to have a hard time finding folks to play with If that's how you are going to behave

[normal canyon]

i see

chaotic neutral alignment prioritize their own interests and don't really care about rules tho.

[glass granite]

So?

[undone rain]

I did not realize paladins use charisma for spells so i set my stats to intelligence lol

[delicate owl]

Feels like this one is a troll and just ignore htem

[glass granite]

You still are being rude

[undone rain]

Luckily dm let me respec

[delicate owl]

New and saying some crayz stuff no one with decency would do so

[normal canyon]

i'm not new. i played 4 campaigns

[glass granite]

I believe them for a reason I don’t wish to disclose

[glass granite]

They mean new to the server

[normal canyon]

k

[worn lagoon]

You can be a free spirit and still be considerate of the campaign

[undone rain]

Im sorry but that is just crazy work

[normal canyon]

k

[undone rain]

One of our players is evil but hes still nice to us irl

[loud tendon]

you will get much farther in groups if you treat the DM and players with respect. Regardless of them being late, it does not give you the excuse to harass anyone. "what your character would do" when you have a selfish or evil alignment is the wrong move 80% of the time

[normal canyon]

ok

[hidden spindle]

This Paladin has come to an intellectual realization!

[glass granite]

Pursuing interests is definitely what chaotic neutral is, but being disruptive to the campaign, hurtful to the party, or being inconsiderate of others at the table is not excusable here. Or anywhere pretty much.

[loud tendon]

I should add in "when you have to play a cooperative game with other people.."

[undone rain]

Yes all +2 of my intelligence

[glass granite]

Oath of Nerd

[undone rain]

But dm let me respec thankfully

Put my highest on charisma. 2ns highest on strength and 3rd on constitution

[hidden spindle]

After the dust settled upon the realization, his Oath strengthened~

Oath of Redemption!

[undone rain]

Their not spell slots, their smite slots

[undone rain]

Yeahhhh... hides oathbreaker paladin who broke his oath 3 sessions in

[karmic pendant]

What did you do to break your oath so early on

[normal canyon]

oaths are weird

[undone rain]

Got a cursed sword that sent me into an uncontrollable murder spree

[normal canyon]

nice

[karmic pendant]

Oh that would do it

[undone rain]

And also gave me disadvantage on any other weapon i used

So oathbreaker arc has started

And hopefully a redemption arc cuz im not great at evil

[normal canyon]

just pick a different oath then

[undone rain]

I cant just pick a different oath

[normal canyon]

next campaign

[stuck shuttle]

The sword mind controlled you to break your tenets?

[undone rain]

There was someone in the sword or smth that got into my head sending me into an uncontrollable murder spree

[jagged igloo]

-# random ik, hello :p