dnd-discussion

[naive cedar]

at least with Discord it’s fairly easy to curate the communities you want to be in

[median anvil]

true that

[valid geyser]

discord has definitely replaced the classic forum site

mostly at least, I've used the occasional RPG related forum

[meager fractal]

Has a new Dark Sun supplement been announced?

[valid geyser]

no news on official WOTC published books yet

[meager fractal]

oh

[reef tundra]

What were those new books they just announced?

-# This is irrelevant to the dark sun question

[valid geyser]

more d&dbeyond third parties. Exploring eberron by keith baker and another griffons saddlebag were all I remember

pugilist class as well

[buoyant oar]

Well the biggest problem is that none of the discords out in the world are indexable. So when a small dev or a team says "Go to the discord." That means 0 questions will be searchable in a search engine.

[timber holly]

What books?

[reef tundra]

Ohhhhh, Oki

[timber holly]

There are updates to dark sun?!

[median anvil]

Discord has a forum function, so questions could be catalogued to be fair

[upper oak]

Hello
Folks

[reef tundra]

I thought they announced new official ones

[valid geyser]

not that im aware of, no

[upper oak]

How are you all?

[buoyant oar]

But not to users outside of that ecosystem

[reef tundra]

No, sorry, your mention of asking new books reminded me of a little something I saw

[timber holly]

Oh
What is it?

[median anvil]

Yea unfortunately

[reef tundra]

No clue, that’s why I was asking others

[valid geyser]

did seem to me like they treated this announcement of new third parties like an official book announcement. A pessimist might say theyre treating this announcement as a replacement for a new book announcement

[buoyant oar]

Some book announcements have come as late as March

[timber holly]

I got only the monster manual

[valid geyser]

were other third party book ddb releases on the server calendar like this? i forgot if it was or not

[buoyant oar]

This is the first time they have announced they were comming and not shadow dropping them

[reef tundra]

My optimism combats that presimism and I say that they’re announcing the third party books to satiate us while we wait for more officials! /lh

[blissful ibex]

Just want Dark Sun confirmation and date details

[crimson gulch]

i wonder if they will actually do that?

[valid geyser]

yeah i think we at least have a decent chance about knowing whats coming out soonish

[reef tundra]

I hope so, just because I know there’s a lot of dark sun fans

[blissful ibex]

they better q_q, I need my preservation druid

[valid geyser]

the most we know is that wotc filed some stuff with the dark sun trademark, but we cant be certain thats for an actual book or not

[buoyant oar]

I would be surprised if A Dark Sun comes out and B it comes out and it is not 80% defanged.

[timber holly]

Right here

[reef tundra]

Same here

[blissful ibex]

the Apocalyptic subclasses are explicitly Dark Sun coded and the Psions/psionics are also intracately tied into the setting

[buoyant oar]

Wizards is not a company I see taking a Brave step. Literally ever.

[timber holly]

I mean they take them
Backwards

[hollow hearth]

Can i ask someone for some home brew advice??

[meager fractal]

#homebrew would be a better place to ask, but maybe we can help you

[buoyant oar]

Dark Sun in this world climate as Dark Sun is with the topics it routinely deals with. Is a proverbial minefield for WotC.

[unreal marlin]

its my first time playing and not dming, im making a barbarian goliath, im thinking of subclass way of beast and the lore would be a skinny dude that becomes strong and tall, but it really sounds just so generic to me, please somoene give me some advice on this i never thought of something non generic

[blissful ibex]

I'm assuming it's basically EFA but psion instead of artificer with a few flavourful sub-classes and maybe a bit of information for running games in the setting

be nice if they reprint Thri-kreen in it too c:

[valid geyser]

okay yeah this was renewed in october
https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=99440014&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch

[reef tundra]

Indulge, if you like it, do it, who cares if it’s been done before?

I once made a character who was essentially Dante from Devil May Cry. It was fun

[blissful ibex]

but ye, they've been stripping a lot of lore out of 5e releases vs older editions

[timber holly]

How come?

[unreal marlin]

i dont like it that much cause its just so generic i cant stand it

[buoyant oar]

There was a giant blow up about Spelljammer because one species had allusions to slavery as part of their backstory.

[timber holly]

You should try playing the real Dante

[reef tundra]

Well, you should keep trying new ideas until you get one you like

[blissful ibex]

flavor it into something more interesting, give it a good background/backstory, or pick a more interesting species

[buoyant oar]

Dark Sun is just what if we did that. But everywhere all of the time at max volume.

[timber holly]

Oh
Uhhh
I see your point

[reef tundra]

DMs are very iffy about players making characters from other IPs

[timber holly]

Don't drow have slaves

[iron kiln]

Magic jar is a very funny spell

[timber holly]

You know Dante was a real person right?

[meager fractal]

Duergar too. BG3 was able to deal with it in a mature manner. Not sure why it would be hard for WotC to do.

[buoyant oar]

Some Drow do. But slavery with Drow is not so ingrained in the ethos of Drow that the 4e guide had to have a call-out on how to deal with slaves in your care and not be evil.

[blissful ibex]

and Dark Sun is both one of the darker settings and one that is intrinsically built around environmental issues, over-exploitation of natural resources, darker topics, and several porblimatic tropes endemnic to older media

[reef tundra]

A half demon who hunts demons and fights his psycho brother that has a magic dimensional katana? /lhj

[timber holly]

I don't really don't see the problem
Yes it has things that are obviously inspired by real issues
But it's a ttrpg with fireballs
If someone is going to make it into a real social problem that's between them and the DM

[timber holly]

Yep! He inspired the guy who wrote Dante's inferno
Can't remember what his name was

[buoyant oar]

Dark Sun is the setting specifically about social issues.

[timber holly]

I know

[reef tundra]

I’m going to assume that the real guy named Dante isn’t actually a half demon but cool

[buoyant oar]

Yeah IRL Dante was just a punk with a chip on his shoulder who wrote fan fiction where all of the people he didn't like went to the bad place.

[blissful ibex]

I'd assume the isunuation with bravery was less about someone casuing an issue at a table and more the chuds en mass calling for a boycot that goes nowhere and making a big deal about WotC being 'woke' or some crap

[timber holly]

He wrote an entire 3 part self insert fanfiction about himself and his favorite author going on a literal biblical adventure to chase a girl he fell for IRL into heaven

[buoyant oar]

I for one want to see dark sun revitalized. There is room for nuance in it. But uhhh that'd be a brave move in this world.

[timber holly]

I've seen a game with stickers called woke
Everything is going to be called woke regardless of what you do

[blissful ibex]

exaclty, but the beancounter types aren't a huge fan of willingly walking into that sort of thing and for better or for worse, Hasbro is very much a beancounter-centric entity

[frank wind]

would anyone like to hop in a call and help me plan one of my sessions? im stumped on how im going to do this (its homebrew) its a 6 month campaign and ive hit a tough spot

[timber holly]

Is someone forcing them to play?

[buoyant oar]

If the bean counters had their way. Yes.

[valid geyser]

im just very unsure if wotc could do dark sun right. If they do it, theyre going to change a lot of its stuff, for better and worse

[blissful ibex]

no, but if the shareholders feel it may hurt proffits, the board might apply pressure to nix anything 'problematic'

[buoyant oar]

Yeah. And like they own it that is cool.

But sometimes their changes are very "How do you do fellow kids"

No.

[meager fractal]

No.

[valid geyser]

i feel a lot of them will be changes that homogenize the setting's cosmology and lore

dark sun is a setting with a single dragon who isnt tied to a color, is that gonna stay?

[buoyant oar]

Mid spells, mid backgrounds, a weird Harry Potter at home vibe. There are third Party products that do what Strixhaven attempted to do but better.

[timber holly]

But everything can be problematic

[blissful ibex]

but again, I think they'll come out with a somewhat toned down version of the setting and it'll be fine

[timber holly]

It sounds like bullshit

[buoyant oar]

Not in the way Dark Sun is problematic

[blissful ibex]

because it is
I'm not saying this is what's happening, I'm saying the person who was casting them as "not a 'brave' company" was likely aluding to that fact

[reef tundra]

Oh damn, they messed up stixhaven that bad? 😭

[lyric viper]

Heya folk, what we chattin'?

[valid geyser]

dark sun deals with uncomfortable themes to provide social commentary (at least some of it does, i could do without the romani stereotype elves)

[reef tundra]

God knows /j
-# A mix of dark sun and strixhaven I think

[buoyant oar]

Anything can be problematic.

Dark Sun is problematic as part of its ethos as a setting.

[minor cargo]

When I think about telling an apocalyptic story, I think it hits best when the themes are taken from the world we live in today. As such, I think it's okay to let Dark Sun just exist in the past (1990s). Of course, today's world is similar to the 90s, but a lot has changed.

I think it would make a lot of sense to just tell the apocalyptic story you want, and if that means taking parts of Dark Sun, yeah that's great.

[naive cedar]

Why does every dnd thing have a Romani stereotype somewhere 😭

[buoyant oar]

I love that about Dark Sun. But those are some risky dice in the modern world.

[worn lagoon]

roma people

[lyric viper]

Aaaah, Dark Sun. Yeah, there are some difficult themes there to do well.

[naive cedar]

I agree with Steve tbh. I think dark sun is very, VERY 90s, and while that’s not a bad thing, it might not translate well to the 2020s

[buoyant oar]

Because at the time it was a standard and easy outgroup

[naive cedar]

That’s not even getting into the PR nightmare in today’s online media climate

[valid geyser]

i do also think that the fan perception of dark sun isnt neccessarily the same as the actual setting

the fan perception of dark sun is the grimdark slavery setting

[buoyant oar]

The number of people who want dark sun are split into two groups.

A. People who have never really looked at it.

B. People who love it and want nothing to change.

[meager fractal]

No, not the Romans.

[naive cedar]

I’m actually not sure where the name “Romani” comes from, but no, they’re a completely different group

[halcyon forum]

ehh, I think there is a third group who think the ideas are worth exploring with a fresh take if done well but they dont trust wotc.

[still plover]

Here you go, bud. Have a read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people

[naive cedar]

This is my position, but I’m not itching for a dark sun remake

[blissful dragon]

from what i heard one of the major themes is about the environment and how we need to stop the terrible way we treat the planet

[naive cedar]

Now that bit has only gotten more relevant

[minor cargo]

Like, yeah, on paper making a new setting is more work. But considering building it "brick by brick", it can also be more efficient in the long run.

Some post apocalyptic settings that maybe WOTC could do (and thus engage with the themes they want to):

1. Magitech aristocrats destroyed the planet. You play as "hedge mages" and relearn/retake magic.
2. The planet has flooded. You play as pirates on jet skis.
3. The planet is in a neverending winter. People choke underground on the smog of industry. Water is scarce and hoarded.
4. The mother of monsters swallowed Faerun (or any other setting). People exist within small tumors or ulcers of Her Body, clinging desparately to life.
5. It's The Matrix, but you play as people trying to save people stuck in it.

[blissful dragon]

rich and powerful are destorying the world for their own gain at the expense of the world and everyone else

[blissful ibex]

I just want the silly druid subclass

[glass granite]

I want reprinted Kensei

[blissful dragon]

whitch honestly is a important story to tell these days

[meager fractal]

No way that's relevant in the modern world

[lyric viper]

There can be a lot of catharsis for folk in darker settings where everything is terrible except your group. That's the basis of a lot of punk settings.

It can also be a tricky thing to try and 'enforce' or show through the mechanics.

Dark Sun has a lot of interesting things going for it. But also, touches on some really hevay topics I feel weren't framed great in earlier editions, or were left somewhat unchallenged. There were also the issue of how mechanical alignment makes this a whole lto trickier- there were mechanics early on that essentially enforced the player to do 'evil' actions to heighten how desperation (like thirst) will drive you to that, or the fact the players would almost certainly have to engage with slavery at some point. But when 'enforced' by the mechanics like that it feels.. tricky.

[valid geyser]

checking the USPTO i got reminded that wotc is still hoarding the gamma world trademark, could they maybe think about doing something with it?

[blissful ibex]

nope, totally not, nothing ot see here folks /s

[naive cedar]

dark sun is very much 90s edginess, which isn’t inherently bad but definitely leaves a lot to be desired in the modern day

[blissful ibex]

Dark Sun except they Mörk Borg-ify it

[oak grotto]

What does the evolution of DnD have to do with Romani folk?

[crimson gulch]

i feel this, i have had slavery in my games a lot but allways through the lense of, Oh these slavers need to be stoped

[timid current]

Many iterations of ravenloft contained harmful and lazy stereotypes of Romani people.

There is a conscious effort to tone that kind of stuff down/ rewrite to be better conscious of those implicit biases and caricatures

[lyric viper]

Previously in the conversation it was mentioned that nearly all settings had a caricature of the roma people and that's only recently been challenged. So, evolution.

[timid current]

Which is cool and good

[lyric viper]

Ahh, so more just D&D evolve overall mechanically?

Not for a while yet.

[reef tundra]

God knows /lhj

[blissful ibex]

not until at least like 2030~2032 at minimum

[naive cedar]

Hopefully not for a while tbh

[proven mountain]

Me waiting for elements of 4E to return at some point in the future 😅

[halcyon forum]

yeah with the remaster being fresh still, probably another 5 years minimum

[crimson gulch]

not till 2040 hopefully

[oak grotto]

21st of February at 11AM (CST).

[blissful ibex]

or 2/3.5e

[reef tundra]

In my entire life time there has only been two dnd editions that came out, so it'll be a while

[buoyant oar]

Gods not that long. We don't need a stale system. 12 years is already pretty old. We can't turn DnD into the Todd Howard.

[proven mountain]

But what about D&D on your Samsung Fridge?

[lyric viper]

TBH, editions really come about when the shift in fantasy/game focus happens. There's also still all the other editions folk can still play, which means a lot of bases have been covered.
2024 collected most of the changes to 5e over the decade so people can just pick up the core books and play, so no massive reset is needed.

[vagrant quartz]

As I'm fairly new to dnd I hope I'll get to enjoy it a lot as it Is before relearning everything

[blissful ibex]

they generally give at least like 6~8 years between major revisions from what I've seen
though 2024 not having a point release kinda makes that comparison iffy

[woven flint]

"And Today Bethesda presents... ANOTHER Skyrim anniversary thing! ... oh, and a remaster."

[vagrant quartz]

The gift that keeps on giving

[lean lark]

Was 5e the longest running edition of D&D before 2024?

[crimson gulch]

yes, still is

[woven flint]

Bethesda drives me up a wall, I swear.

[blissful ibex]

2024 is still technically 5e
this is basically year 12 of 5e

[oak grotto]

You can thank the horses for that.

[woven flint]

2024 IS still 5e, really, no technicalities about it

[lean lark]

There is a reason people refer to it as 5.5e though

[woven flint]

It's more of a Remaster than a separate thing

[blissful ibex]

mostly for ease of differentiating games played on the standard 2014 edition and games played on the 2024 revision

[woven flint]

When Psion gets released, perhaps I'll consider it a new eve of Joy!

Let's just hope it doesn't stay in playtesting.

[minor cargo]

I think D&D could shift gameplay focus to either: more social narratives or more tactical combat. That could involve an edition update, but to be honest, I think it would make more sense to create "bolt on" modules to the base game.

If you want more tactical combat (like let's say hex based combat with a lot more bells and whistles and customizations), you play D&D 5E: Tactics. Or if you want more narrative focused things, using rules lifted more more lyrical games or something, you play D&D 5E: Intrigue.

Something like that.

[naive cedar]

Wait psion?

[north hawk]

I'm just going to throw my two cents into the void that I love edgy dark settings. I'm kind of done with a lot of material and games where it's so PG, politically correct focused, and avoids morally complicated situations. There is a line that goes too far for me, though I'm not sure exactly where that is. Anyway. I'm an adult, so I like adult content. If it goes too far, I can let the DM know.

[woven flint]

Yurp.

[naive cedar]

Is there a new class?

[valid geyser]

UA class but yes

[blissful ibex]

yep, likely to be reprinted with the Dark Sun stuff assuming we get it

[woven flint]

Yes and No
Its still UA

[naive cedar]

Oh cool

[blissful ibex]

it's still UA and it's technically a rework of a class from an older edition

[woven flint]

I hope it gets released
I'm gonna play a Metamorph one lol

[blissful ibex]

metamorph looked sick

[woven flint]

Body horror my beloved

[blissful ibex]

they mind ready one was cool too

[oak grotto]

How dare you show your face in front of me, imposter?

[lean lark]

Would psion be the first new class since artificer?

[woven flint]

For 5e that's official?
Yes.

[halcyon forum]

I think is a fairly safe prediction that we are going to see psion released this year

[naive cedar]

lol I’m a doppelganger

[glass granite]

The fated nesting of the alleys

[blissful ibex]

well, artificer was also a rehash of older content, technically they'd both be rereleases but psion doesn't have an existant 2014 printing so it'd at least be new for 5e

[valid geyser]

I think it's an interesting idea, but i feel that would be hard to support realistically, and would probably need to just be a new edition in general, so we can have a better base chassis

[naive cedar]

I’m not a cat though. I’m actually a tressym

[lean lark]

I meant the first new class since artificer came out in 3.5

[woven flint]

Side tangent:
If i have to argue with one more person about blood hunter NOT being official, my brain cells are gonna implode

[north hawk]

The Psion is interesting. I'm a little disappointed they are leaning into spell casting and not coming up with new psionic abilities, but I think that's how psioncs always were (I didn't play older editions).

[halcyon bison]

Random question that just came to mind, why are doppelgangers and changelings different things?

[oak grotto]

Roll initiative, you bastard. ⚔️

[blissful ibex]

psion was in 2e, 3/3.5e, and 4e

[scarlet marsh]

Smh just when I thought there was another cat

[naive cedar]

I just wanna play with psionic powers tbh

[woven flint]

Doppelgangers are inherently malicious monsters

Whereas Changelings just want to live among other people

[minor cargo]

Totaly fair. I think the base D&D 5E game supports neither well when you really get into it. I personally can't think of a way to design in a way that makes the gaming experience streamlined but... hey, I'm not the designer lol.

[valid geyser]

Spellcasting was the easier solution, since it's a lot of effort to make a new psionics system thats in-balance with existing casting

[naive cedar]

I can’t. I’m a cat. My paws can’t roll dice

[woven flint]

Also, Changelings are Fey
Doppelgangers aren't lol

[halcyon bison]

It's still a little weird
But that does create a interesting one-shot idea: trying to find a doppleganger in a village of changelings

[naive cedar]

Orin: Am I a joke to you?

[north hawk]

Easy and safe, but boring and uninspiring. It's like "ohh I throw a fireball, but it's psionics".

[woven flint]

Yes.

[worldly rain]

...Anyone looking for a gestalt?

[naive cedar]

You know what. fair

[blissful ibex]

meee q_q
but you already know that

[lyric viper]

All folk who would be would be checking the LFG channels

No LFG outside the LFG channels 😉

[valid geyser]

and also there is an element of occams razor thinking to it.
If a cleric can get the ability to make miracles from a god's power, and a wizard can alter the weave to manipulate the elements, and they both use the same system of creating effects, why are mind powers any different?

[woven flint]

If I had a Gestalt character

I'd want a Barbarian-Sorcerer
I know they clash, but damn you, I think it'd be cool.

[worldly rain]

It would be cool.

[valid geyser]

not saying you have to like it, thats just my justification for why it works

[halcyon bison]

I like characters with mind-powers, they're scary
Particurally when the components of the spell are waived, I think that's super cool but I don't think psion does that at all
despite the extant "psionic" subclasses doing it

[north hawk]

Yeah I get your point. But it just feels like flavor.

[woven flint]

Imagine with me, of you all will
A Draconic Sorcerer Barbarian.
They're beefy because the dragon blood in their viens bulked them up

[blissful ibex]

it'd honnestly be fine, just fire off a bunch of non concentration buffs prior to raging

[glass granite]

The ultimate steroids

[blissful ibex]

GOOlock ftw

[lean lark]

Doppelgangers are not listed as having the ability to change their voices. And changelings can only turn into people that they've seen before, they can't turn into something new

[woven flint]

It'd be so funny
I throw a spell at you
You slap me
I smash your skull into the pavement
Barberer

[valid geyser]

and it is kinda the wotc stance now that theyre treating psionics as another form of magic

[minor cargo]

I was a big fan of Psionics in 3.5E (it's part of the SRD if you're ever curious). Rather than use Vancian casting ("fire and forget"), it used psi points. As such, it was a wholly different casting system complete with its own psionic powers. In fact, things like "spell resistance" were not effective against psionic powers.

It was cool and really memorable - but it did mean that you had to support a whole different lists of powers. And as a DM, I had to get up to speed on a whole new way to cast spells. It was okay at the time, but it's definitely a higher bar than generally 5E seems to want to set.

[woven flint]

Sorcrarian

[halcyon bison]

GOOlock is my favoirte-ly themed subclass, but tragically I don't enjoy playing warlock very much ;-;

[blissful ibex]

could always take the Actor feat at level 4 to cover that though

[woven flint]

My favorite Warlock Subclass is undead :>

[lean lark]

Yeah, but changelings already have it built in, also it affects NPCs

[blissful ibex]

I multiclass it c:
15 druid / 5 warlock
it's MAD so it's a terrible build optimization wise but I have it tuned to work well enough so it's fun

[minor cargo]

A bit more: I think a major reason why I liked old 3.5E psionics is because in the fiction, psionics were "weird and new". They were supposed to be kind of poorly understood and, for many people (and even gods), a threat to magic. So a whole new system felt very fitting.

[woven flint]

Psion was in the based editions

[halcyon bison]

What's the theming on that? Using both meanings of "old god"?

[blissful ibex]

there's a UA for it in 5th edition, it's likely to come out with the Apocolyptic subclasses in a Dark Suns expansion for 5e

[north hawk]

At this point I'd be okay with learning a whole new list of powers. I'm very familiar with the game, especially since the 2024 update really didn't change anything foundationally. I'd like them to shake up the game. I started doing that with homebrew but it's not quite the same.

[halcyon bison]

I would also quite like it if Psion was its own thing outside of spellcasting

It might not help that I recently joined a warhammer campaign and I think psykers are cool

[blissful ibex]

Her patron is basicallay a more nature-themed inversion of Hadar; kind of the embodyment of like overgrowth and monstrous life

[woven flint]

I can't wait for Sorcerer-King Warlock, I playtested it in a oneshot and it was gnarly for a Bladelock

Shouting at people to KNEEL! then chopping off heads was great

[halcyon bison]

Very cool
I really like creepy nature vibes, and scary characters in general

[north hawk]

I've seen people talk highly of that subclass. I've been meaning to take a closer look at it.

[blissful ibex]

looks really sick
#1408165129622782214 message

[valid geyser]

From what I know of 3.5 psionics, it was very strong. It could ignore almost every downside of traditional spellcasting and it had a lot of effects that were just “this spell or item but inherently better” which could be part of the flavor on why psychics were hated and feared but i don’t know if many people would want that power imbalance in a caster

[woven flint]

It's fun!
It's kinda like Glamor Bard, you get free bonus action Casts of Command ...
That's all It really shares in common lol

You get your powers from a Magical Tyrant

[north hawk]

Pour some gasoline on the Martial vs Caster divide arguments. 😄

[valid geyser]

Martial vs caster becomes martial vs caster vs super caster lol

[blissful ibex]

the sorcerer and the druid where my two favorites from that UA, though druid ofc is my darling and that is basically my quinitisential druid subclass

[woven flint]

I think the Remaster has helped Martials be on steady footing

[woven flint]

WE Need more UAs for Druid!

[blissful ibex]

we need more martial druids

[halcyon bison]

I'm playing spore druid in a campaign that's starting Friday :3
It's built around bonking people with Shilleleigh

[blissful ibex]

it's really just Circle of the Moon right now

[woven flint]

And Barbarian.
We need more new Barb stuff! RAGGHH

[glass granite]

I want a Druid with Hextra attack or extra attack

[blissful ibex]

give me a druid subclass that is heavily built around shillelagh

[woven flint]

I dunno if they'll ever truly make another Martial Druid as that's Moons whole shtick, but I could be wrong, who knows

[timid current]

The main problem with psion in 5e (both the ua attempts and the slog homebrew like kibbles) is that 3.5 psionics introduced a new swt of mechanics that multiple classes had access to. 4e psionics were easy because every class had bespoke capabilities, and psionic was just one source of power in 5e its always the same. 35 pages of powers and augmentation for a single class that has so many choices because itnis trying to fulfill every psionic fantasy within a single class

[halcyon bison]

That's what I'm trying to do!
I got 1 level in ranger for weapon mastery, hex, and armor prof., also polearm master for a "second attack", and will use stuff like conjure elementals at higher levels

[timid current]

Which is part of why soulknife and psi warrior are so dear to me. They give me that delicious psionic flavor withiut trying to do everything

[north hawk]

I think a vine focused druid that moves creatures into aoes would be fun. I guess that doesn't need a whole subclass.

[halcyon forum]

well the new Psion UA doesnt try to do everything either

[blissful ibex]

mine takes 5 in warlock for Pact of the Blade, Improved Pact Weapon, and Thirsting Blade
She wants a vicious longbow to bind c:

[woven flint]

Plant Focused Druid in general

[halcyon forum]

its basically an INT sorcerer

[valid geyser]

I think the psionic subs and the psi caster can coexist. Just as there are magical subclasses that don’t use spells

[woven flint]

Druid that can wildshape into plant monsters

[blissful ibex]

yeah and bring back plant and elemental wildshape forms >:c

[halcyon bison]

I want a more fey-focused druid
Circle of dreams exists but it's kinda just a weird subclass and also not fey themed enough

[woven flint]

I'd honestly prefer an Elemental Druid in general

[scarlet marsh]

Wildshapes into a whole ass redwood

[woven flint]

I don't think it made sense for old moon druid to wildshape into Elementals

[blissful ibex]

just vibing as a tree for like 4 hours is pretty chill

[woven flint]

Druid subclass all about bugs and you can become an Umberhulk or some shit

[halcyon bison]

Druid would be much more interesting if beasts were cooler
I would be very happy about an entire book of beasts designed to be interesting and wildshape-friendly

[halcyon bison]

Bugs :D
I love bugs they are very cool

[woven flint]

Am I the only person that enjoys Umberhulks? 🤔

[halcyon junco]

ooga booga

[blissful ibex]

they just need a big thick dumb book of lore, random stat blocks, and just interesting but not inherently useful items

[halcyon bison]

I would definitely buy that

[minor cargo]

This is my experience having played with it a lot back in the day.

Here's an example. So at level 5, a wizard can cast fireball: 5d6 (in 3.5E) in a sphere. Classic and overtuned. We love it.

At level 5, a 3.5 Psion has 25 power points and can manifest a 3rd level power. https://www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/classes/psion.htm

Energy burst is available at level 5 psions and also does 5d6 in a burst. It has to be centered on you, but it's also double the radius (40 ft instead of 20 ft fireball). It costs 5 power points, meaning you could cast it up to 5 times a day (you probably wouldn't). Now, all psions can "augment" a power by spending more power points up to their level. So you can "augment" your energy burst by 5 more points. Each time you bump it, you increase the damage by 1d6.

So at level 5, your wizard is throwing 5d6 fireballs; but as a psion, you can lock in and do and throw out a 10d6 energy burst.

[woven flint]

Circle of Entomancy

I summon a Goliath Sized Goliath Beetle

[blissful ibex]

army of giant isopods

[woven flint]

YES!

[rugged hawk]

Eh, has nothing on Miniature Giant Space Hamsters. Go for the EYES, Boo! 🐹

[scarlet marsh]

Whatever, go forth my shrimps

[runic locust]

I’m trying to join a Campaign, but there’s nothing interesting

[halcyon bison]

I guess you could flavor Giant Insect
Which by the way, is interesting in that it now follows the same rules for the other "summon x" spells but is the only one without summon in the name

[woven flint]

Me when i send my army of Swag bugs to kill my enemies

[blissful ibex]

#find-a-game is the place here or you can look on one of the many LFG discord servers, r/lfg on reddit, or your friendly local game store.

[halcyon bison]

Swarmkeeper???

[runic locust]

Ok thank

[blissful ibex]

best ranger subclass

[halcyon bison]

That or fey wanderer I think

[woven flint]

Swarmkeeper ranger doesn't give the same vibes as summoning a plague of insects that cloud the sky.

[timid current]

4e also had augments on the psionic powers- where most classes had at-will, encounter, and daily powers, psionic classes didn't have encounter powers, but points they could use to augment their at-will powers into more potent versions

[blissful ibex]

true, but swamkeeper

[halcyon bison]

true...
Guess that's what insect plague is for

[woven flint]

I'm making a Bugbear Gloomstalker Ranger
His name is gonna be Bogeyman 😎

[scarlet marsh]

Unleash a swarm of shrimp upon your enemies

[halcyon bison]

Is he good at boogying?

[woven flint]

As Shrimple as that

[halcyon bison]

Shrimply devestating

[blissful ibex]

for the 5e folks, encounter powers are basically short rest abilities in 5e

[woven flint]

No, he's the stuff of nightmares

[halcyon bison]

but he's also got some sick dance moves, right...?

[woven flint]

Noh.
He's too serious for that, he's an Assassin in the Zhentarim :>

[halcyon bison]

aw :(

[rugged hawk]

I had an idea for a Piranhadin yesterday. Replace Divine Smite with Divine Swarm, now its magical piranha swarm consuming EVIL to restore Pally's health. And instead of Lay on Hands, now it's Swarm Sacrifice to use Pally's health to heal the target.

[scarlet marsh]

Good thing I have the world's only shrimpenetrable armor

[woven flint]

Fintastic

[halcyon bison]

Wait... did you just make a shrimp pun with a word other than "simple"????
I bow to your mastery of comedy

[scarlet marsh]

Piranha swarm but you're just throwing dead fish at them from a suspicious bag of holding

[blissful ibex]

my 'at the time' level 4 valor bard level 2 warlock rolled a 29 on a performance check to dance yesterday XD

[naive cedar]

Please. Making a shrimp pun is simply shrimpossible

[rugged hawk]

Ah yes, Divine Smite by smacking them with a giant dead fish

Humiliation and injury

[halcyon bison]

This reminds me
Dhampir is very fun for getting silly numbers on checks
I once got like a 40-something on an athletics check on a 2014 build :)

[blissful ibex]

shrimply the worst >.>

[naive cedar]

I’m a shrimpleton

[scarlet marsh]

I appreciate your shrimpathetic comment

[halcyon bison]

I got a cool shield because of it

[naive cedar]

It’s shrimportant to be empathetic

[scarlet marsh]

The shrimprophecy... has come to pass...

[halcyon bison]

"imply" and "simply" become the same word under the shrimp

[naive cedar]

I will not shrimpose my will unto you

[scarlet marsh]

I feel as though there is a shrimposter among us

[blissful ibex]

Psion UA, apocalyptic UA, and them registering the trademark on October 13, 2025 points to yes but nothing explicit yet; have to wait for the 2026 release schedule in the coming months

[naive cedar]

Then it is shrimpudent that we catch them

[halcyon bison]

Were psions important in Dark Suns? I've only really heard of it through one youtube video so I don't know much

I did recognize the UA

[blissful ibex]

IIRC, magic is restricted to the upper eshelons in Athas and basicaly everyone else has at least a tiny bit of psionic ability

[scarlet marsh]

They'll just be let off with complete shrimpunity

[blissful ibex]

#1423356300208640205 message was the second UA link
#1408165129622782214 message are the other blatently Dark Sun coded subclasses, Circle of Preservation Druid is my favorite c:

[naive cedar]

Whoever permits that must be shrimpeached!

[halcyon bison]

I think that would be shrimproper :(

[scarlet marsh]

Too many shrimp puns oml what have I started

Huston we have a shrimproblem

[naive cedar]

There is much shrimperial evidence to suggest that it would be popular with the masses

[woven flint]

No more shrimp puns >:[

[blissful ibex]

gone forever

[scarlet marsh]

New era divide. BS and AS (before vs after shrimp)

[woven flint]

I've got my eyes on you.

[naive cedar]

Don’t be so shrimpudent

omg. circle of crustaceans druid

[scarlet marsh]

Please put them back in your head

[halcyon bison]

It's not like this'll cause a shripocalypse

[woven flint]

Look in your hands.
There are my eyes

[tall forge]

Woah. Shrimp puns

[scarlet marsh]

Boo

[woven flint]

Don't ye know?
Themberchaud eats ye gifs

[halcyon bison]

Aren't they shrimpcredible?
no that one was bad

[dusk hatch]

ok i wont ever say hi :(

[naive cedar]

Posting a gif is the shrimpetus for thumberchaud to appear

[tall forge]

Dont worry, your krilling it

[idle oar]

It's been fun but time to get back to D&D

[woven flint]

Yes! Big agree.

[naive cedar]

I stand by circle of crustaceans druid

[woven flint]

Circle of Squares Druids.

[halcyon bison]

I cast crab

[scarlet marsh]

I stand by shrimpaladin

[tall forge]

Good thing to ask- i dont think there are any ocean based druids are there

[woven flint]

No more shrimp, please 😭

[halcyon bison]

shrimplock

[naive cedar]

You turn into a king crab

[blissful ibex]

Circle of Squirrels Druid
probably as a MTG side conent booklet

[woven flint]

Sea Druid lol

[woven flint]

That's literally just Squirrel Girl from marvel smh

[halcyon bison]

I'm sure all circle of sea druid's features can be shrimp themed somehow

[woven flint]

->

[naive cedar]

Circle of sea druid whose main form is a lobster

[scarlet marsh]

My face is red from the mount of times the word shrimp has been used

[naive cedar]

They walk around pinching people

[woven flint]

I'm gonna leave chat for a bit, I need a break from shrimp 😭

[naive cedar]

Crustaceans can be vicious little guys tbh

[scarlet marsh]

But I just cooked some crawdads for you

[idle oar]

for real folks - the shrimp theme was funny but it's starting to go off like rotten seafood now

So what are folks doing D&D wise this week?

[scarlet marsh]

My shrimpologies...

[naive cedar]

Im seriously speculating about Druids with crustacean themes but alright

[idle oar]

Any games you're excited for?

[halcyon bison]

Campaign starting Friday :D
Also not D&D but maybe a Warhammer session Saturday

[tall forge]

Im mostly actually curious why there isnt an ocean based druid

[blissful ibex]

Nother session of Dragon Heist and likely a few AL games

[halcyon bison]

There is, sea druid

[jovial shadow]

Probably need a channel for off topic conversations, unless "non-dnd topics" counts?

[tall forge]

Is that a thing?

[naive cedar]

There is, but I find it odd that they’re not used more

[idle oar]

Off-topic is #non-dnd-topics

Basically for anything not D&D related

[tall forge]

Ohhh its 2024

[naive cedar]

The sea has SO much fauna to use: fish alone are a very diverse group of animals

[severe rampart]

There is?

[tall forge]

I havent looked in depth into 2024 yet

[naive cedar]

Yeah sea druids

[halcyon bison]

Oh so it is
For some reason I though it had always existed

[severe rampart]

Darn they look awesome

[tall forge]

Nope, def wasnt a thing before that i know of, unless UA had it

[empty thicket]

Had the bossfight i wanted, a demon that was holding a curse on my Paladin.
AT first attack half hp us all.
We got at least everybody down 1 time, i got 2 but in some way i pulled out 2 Nat20 and stood on my feets without problem.
In a critic moment we managed the paladin and me to kill the boss in a glory kill and won.
After that the paladin got into a Trial with some deities to retake his Oath (he is an oathbreaker) and they didnt gave it to him, but if he change his ways he might get it back.

Sadly after all that encounter one of the PC retired from the company because was too much for her. We will still in contact but she wont work with us anymore, our bard left the party (the player wanted to change of character so he did that).
I kinda stole the spotlight of the paladin pulling out that 2 nat20 in death doors and i wanted to leave him all the stars for him....

Was funny, next mission it seems we are going to get some kind of demon forge with a demon soul inside and we should not kill it....

[idle oar]

Interesting... nothing could possibly go wrong

[empty thicket]

Yeeaaahhhh.... the player will get a Bloodhunter lycan, so the party would be now
A werewolf, a dhampir, a humanoid hippopotamus, a goblin and a half orc walk into a bar

[halcyon bison]

That's fun :)
I like silly parties

[crimson gulch]

I'm booked solid for sessions through too until groundhog day

[blissful ibex]

yoooo, Giff mentioned

[worn lagoon]

checking out dark sun since it was mentioned in a convo here, quite unique

[empty thicket]

im the half orc and now i have like 2 monster creatures, 1 hoarder of coins and a silly hipo that love his bathtub and lost the whole arc of the paladin

[blissful ibex]

the hippo-person species is likely the Giff from the AAG/Spelljammer c:

love the spelljammer species

[worn lagoon]

it's quite fascinating, i don't often explore settings outside of the forgotten realms but this is something

[blissful ibex]

I play a plasmoid from the same source book primarially in the forgotten realms c:

and if/when Dark Sun hits, Thri-Kreen are endemic there as well

[worn lagoon]

i don't think i'd run a game in this, but i could definitely homebrew something similar to it

[timber turtle]

what about a demon druid that only protects demonic nature?

[empty thicket]

idk, but seeing how my friend changed character, i might do the same in some future with mine. First get him some house, then a wife and finally retire him when he get enough money to dont worry for a long time in his life

[minor cargo]

Monday will be one players’s IRL birthday - so we’re gonna have dinner and play in person!

The actual adventure is a sewer exploration (beneath Waterdeep). They’ll fight a megepede lol.

[empty thicket]

and might get teh chance to either get to use some of the characters i hav in the list ready

[blissful ibex]

hard to do unless your campaign primarally takes place in the Abyss

also demons are rather bitey

[halcyon bison]

The planes of existence exist naturally
Therefore, there could be a druid that pulls on the natural forces and environment of the abyss

[tall forge]

Throwing bricks at my players

The usual

[halcyon bison]

Such a druid's powers would probably not resemble those of their material-planed druid friends though

[idle oar]

Bricks of story right?

[tall forge]

The only damage i ever do is emotional ❤️

[idle oar]

otherwise players ducking under the table to avoid flying masonry

[tall forge]

Nah i need them conscious

for now

As i always say. A good dm causes intense emotional damage

[mighty wigeon]

oh for sure

[halcyon bison]

Hlelo Gallifrey

[tall forge]

Such as having the players cause a vampire apocalypse

Be forced 5 years into the future

[mighty wigeon]

hello! I am new here and I have been doing D&D for a couple of months. But I’m still kind of new, I have a campaign that I would say is homebrew but I don’t think I’m doing a good job as a DM… Is anybody able to join a voice call so I can get into more depth of explaining my campaign?

[worn lagoon]

idk i just disintegrate the barbarian

[tall forge]

And see everyone they cared about become vampires

[mighty wigeon]

i’m kinda…. garbage as a dm

[blissful ibex]

#dm-discussion

[mighty wigeon]

OOP- there’s a channel haha

[idle oar]

Lots of channels - see #channel-guide

[halcyon bison]

Yay! Everyone they love is now immortal, super strong, and can shapeshift!! :D

[tall forge]

Exactly!

[mighty wigeon]

imma just copy and paste lol

[worn lagoon]

you would think that the obvious trap that shoots a disintegrating beam when you try to pry off the ominous red gem would deter the barbarian within the first three disintegrates to the face

[idle oar]

Please don't use strikethrough text - it is not read as strikethrough text by text to speech tools which some of our blind/vision impaired folks use to participate here.

Also please avoid posting single emojis/reacts/stickers not inline with text or under a post via the react feature as it can also be disruptive to folks using text to speech tools and trying to follow along with a discussion.

And now back to D&D...

[worn lagoon]

So that's what that was

[zealous kettle]

Glory to Lathander!

[wanton sorrel]

So, what is everyone favorite story in D&D?

[worn lagoon]

traitors from the 2006 anthology realm of the elves

[wanton sorrel]

ah cool.... that's great...

huh I wonder what's people favorite D&D race?

So many... So many!!! 0_0

[mighty wigeon]

Dragonborn

cus Skyrim

[worn lagoon]

dragonborn, dragons, half-dragons

[fringe hatch]

hello I am new here 🙂

[wanton sorrel]

hello!

[worn lagoon]

hi

[wanton sorrel]

huh I wonder what it's like to be a rogue that wieghs 1,800 pounds

sighs the heavyest rogue of all time :3

[tall forge]

A centaur moment

[wanton sorrel]

which i created it x'D

[tall forge]

Or a warforged, probably

[wanton sorrel]

huh i don't think i have warforged on character creation since i don't have the book yet.

[halcyon bison]

I would greatly like a "brawler" type rogue
To allow you to sneak attack with unarmed strike, maybe grapple better

[wanton sorrel]

so a multi class??? rogue monk?

[halcyon bison]

No I mean as in a subclass that doesn't exist :(
Sneak attack doesn't work with unarmed strikes tragically

Even though it totally should!!
How am I supposed to make a Dhampir rogue????

[wanton sorrel]

isn't there assassin subclass in 5e?

[glass granite]

There is

[frank bane]

Hello

[halcyon bison]

It doesn't do anything for unarmed though :(

[glass granite]

Indeed

[wanton sorrel]

but couldn't you still sneak and strike with unarmed weapons?

[vernal vale]

Chat I'm writing backstory for my necromancer wizard, and idk I need some help with something, he used to be a high elf that ran a potion shop in like a big city, but I can't find a way to explain him turning to necromancy + becoming a dhampir :/

[wanton sorrel]

also hello Kary

[glass granite]

Sneak and strike, yes.
Sneak Attack, no.

[halcyon bison]

No, because it needs to be a "finesse or ranged weapon"

And what Nugget said

[wanton sorrel]

so no splinter cell stuff

[glass granite]

Try #character-discussion

[vernal vale]

Ah thanks :)

[frank bane]

You guys ever play solo?

[wanton sorrel]

sometimes

[frank bane]

Any house rules you use to make things interesting for solo play?

[wanton sorrel]

kill a lot of things just to get max xp over and over until you reach level 20 as a warrior farmmer... (kill animals from eating the crops) before you reach level 10 you go to the black smith to get a mythril hoe... then you go to the mage guild and enchanted to 6 times to make it become a mythril magical weapon... then you make 1 short rest... and then to kill all demons and reach level 20... once you reach level 20 do all the main story books and all adventures.

[minor cargo]

Someone mentioned it in #non-dnd-topics a few days ago, but reposting here for this crowd. 👀

Erin Roberts has joined the D&D team as a game designer! She was an author in Radiant Citadel (I think she wrote Written in Blood).

Really excited to see the team grow!

Edit: And here's her announcement which came out on January 16th lol 🦥
https://bsky.app/profile/nirele.bsky.social/post/3mcl7vwo5mk2y

[vivid terrace]

I've been building an adventure in faerun, it's not quite done but I'd like to begin testing it. Is there a good server to attract a group of players to test out a new module?

[crimson gulch]

The secret is, every game is a test

The lfg channel here is the busiest in the whole internet, just call it your own custom forgotten realms campaign

[stoic obsidian]

Were you adjust it after each session, improving it, with your pen and paper

[rough basalt]

Looking forward to being back in the dm seat on Monday

[crimson gulch]

Good luck sora!

[rough basalt]

Party is almost level 5 so will be hitting t2 very quick.

[sage adder]

hi im new

[marble pivot]

just found this too howdy

[dusk hatch]

I think hes new

I need the faerun book

heroes of faerun or adventure in faerun

playe

[glass granite]

Heroes of Faerun then probably

[dusk hatch]

cool

[glass granite]

So folks, what are yalls favourite new subclass from the Faerun book!

-# I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t see people flipping out

[wintry bane]

Roll & Play Press One Shot Wonders

[glass granite]

Mildly late, but eh

[limber trail]

I will just always enjoy a Bladesinger wizard. Haven't gotten to play the 2024 update yet, but it looks like a worthy successor.

[wintry bane]

I havent even looked at the 2024 rules yet. I'm hesitant since all the books I already own are balanced with the 2014 rulebook

[limber trail]

Are these books you're looking for as a player or as a DM?

[glass granite]

It’s released

[limber trail]

Nah ranger is in HoF

If you're interested in DMing, I'd recommend Monsters of the Multiverse and Volo's Guide to Monsters, they're secondary monster manuals with tons of new monsters in them

[formal dove]

hey, i was thinking of using a homebrew race thats a fish in a bowl thats controlling a robotic suit of armor/ body. is there anything like this out? if there isnt how do you normally go about making homebrew races?

[glass granite]

I’d say that’s a heavily flavored warforged

Well, maybe just flavored.

[limber trail]

Monsters of the Multiverse i've found to be better but VGTM is still a solid book with a solid stat block list - there's some cool stuff there from what I see

Or rather, I've used monsters of the multiverse more. But that's also because I've needed more monsters like demons etc, which it has more of.

[fast latch]

Do Orcs have rounded ears or pointy ears?

[terse vortex]

I have a question are we allowed to ask for a DM in here?

[fast latch]

Most of the art I’ve seen gives them pointed ears, but I don’t think Gruumsh would like if his creations looked anything like Corellon

[limber trail]

You can make a post in #looking-for-dm, but not in this channel specifically

[fast latch]

In #looking-for-dm

[terse vortex]

okay thank you

[halcyon bison]

Seems to vary somewhat. Do whichever you like

[limber trail]

The official 2024 PHB art for orcs depicts them with pointed ears

[undone karma]

i havent played dnd in years how do i find ppl to play dnd with pls i miss it
i checked my unis society list and theres no dnd society and my flatmates dont wanna play bc its weird apparently 🙄

[halcyon bison]

Oh wait no they're definitely pointy

Not as pointy as elves but defiently a little

[terse vortex]

how do I do that sorry I am very dumb

[limber trail]

#find-a-game has breaks down how to make posts in the LFG channels, and the kind of information you should include

[dusk hatch]

100% pointy
just not as long as elves

[frank bane]

I'd honestly recommend playing with friends. If you really can't convince anyone, then I'd suggest making friends online and slowly getting into one-shots at first

Listings can be hit or miss

[full wadi]

Obvious statement, but it helps if you're willing to be the DM

[undone karma]

but i feel like online is so much worse
like ive only ever played in person and it was so much fun and i dont see how the same level of fun could be replicated online

[frank bane]

Yea, I mean I personally think TTRPGs are not the kind of thing where you can just turn up and have an amazing game a lot of the time unless you're already experienced and know the "social contracts"

Some servers/communities present it like a lobby type game (like COD, etc) but in my years of experience and all my friends, we haven't had a genuine experience with random people, maybe once or twice in the local shop or uni society

[frank bane]

Yea, you're definitely right

[undone karma]

like if there was a society at uni id love to join n make friends w them
but my current friend group rn is more like football headed ppl like they'd much rather go play sports or something than sit around a table and play a fantasy game if that makes sense

[frank bane]

You can still have a great experience though. But since you already know, the people massively affect the experience honestly

Online can still be fun with the right people

[undone karma]

partially considering starting a dungeons and dragons society myself but id still need to find some ppl to start it with

[fast latch]

It’s a matter of opinion

Personally I like online better because it’s way easier to go back and reread things

[frank bane]

That was my entry way, I joined the uni society and eventually became DM

[undone karma]

that's valid

like I haven't played since year 11 of school
im now in my second year of uni and rewatching stranger things is making me miss it

like why cant there be like a hellfire club and an eddie at my uni 😞

[frank bane]

Are you from UK? A lot of shops have clubs and regular open games

Check local area

[undone karma]

yeah im from the uk
but again in shops i feel like ppl are either gna be so much older than me or i just wont click with them as well idk

[fast latch]

Oh, and my online sessions are a hundred times less chaotic than my real life sessions because I don’t have That Guy playing

He’s not that bad of a That Guy, but he’s playing DEADPOOL and he has the Soul Stone

[frank bane]

Btw check "adventurer's league"

[undone karma]

im also so socially awkward walking into a shop like that by myself and having to talk to new ppl would acc kill me but i mean i could try

[undone karma]

🤔

[frank bane]

Alright well, your best option is adventurer's league. Check it out online, once you learn about it you can either do it online or in person, either way that'll be the best entry for you

[undone karma]

What's that?

[frank bane]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1676-what-is-adventurers-league

That link will explain it better than me

[undone karma]

Thank you so much

[frank bane]

No problem, I highly suggest you try to approach your "debut" in a good way, like a local shop or adventurer's league, because if you try and play random online listings with people you don't know, the experience could very easily push you away for a long long time due to bad experiences

Any person here whose played for more than a couple years might know this feeling...

[vital sigil]

Hey man if it gives you any more confidence to hear this, DON'T BE SCARED.

My first couple of times in the game shop, I'd just browse around until I was comfortable with the owner. He turned out to be a pretty chill guy, so I bought a starter box to take home and check out.

Later on, I wanted to start playing MTG but didn't know anybody who did, so my only option was to buy some cards and just show up when people were there to play.

First time I went, I didn't even play, I was that freaked out.
I just kind of observed the play patterns of an actual game.

Now imagine that. From the perspective of the established players, I kinda was being a weirdo 😅 they offered me a deck so I could join in the game and I played koi and said "oh no, I'm just gonna watch...."

I probably freaked them out far more than they freaked me out on first contact.
That's on me.

I was weird about it. And they still accepted me and offered me a seat.

When I finally did show up again with my cards ready to play, thing were so relaxed because I realized my fears stemmed from my own thoughts of how others would perceive me as an outsider, and NOT from a place of reality where people would actually treat me poorly just for wanting to play a game.

it's not a biker bar, it's a game shop where people come together.

Show up, don't hide your face behind your book/tablet the entire time, and share your interests with the others so you guys can click together more quickly.

I guarantee there's somebody there who likes anime, or card games, or literally anything.
You'd be surprised who'd be at the game store, wanting to be your friend and play a game with you.

[undone karma]

That actually does help hearing an actual similar experience thank you
I think I'll try it

[weary raft]

I know it sounds like a dumb question but is disintegration a specific damage type or just straight up die, no save

[snow zephyr]

Force damage, at least from 2014

And then if you die you turn to dust

[weary raft]

And do you know 2024? Because that is what my DM is running off of

I meant like a beholder's disintegration ray, but i think that works

[eager marsh]

they're both force

[weary raft]

Does resistance help?

[eager marsh]

the question was the damage type you dont even need to paste the whole spell. Do you have resistance against Force damage?

[weary raft]

Through a certain buff

[viscid grail]

Ok sorry.

[eager marsh]

a ring of resistance is the only thing that comes to mind for a player option to resist force damage unless homebrew. otherwise resistance always works against the damage type unless something else says otherwise

[weary raft]

Warding bond

[eager marsh]

That works

[weary raft]

Unless "resistance against all damage" doesn't mean what it says

[eager marsh]

The bond caster takes half still. And of course it means what it says. Everything does exactly what they say

[weary raft]

Some descriptions leave out some things

[eager marsh]

They shouldnt. many spells dont bother explaining the effects of conditions they cause because there is a glossaary for that

[weary raft]

Like prestidigitation, it says you can't summon a weapon, not that what you summon can't enherently be dangerous

[eager marsh]

That's not 'leaving something out'

[weary raft]

I had a whole ass argument about whether you can or can't apply what the rules/description "implies"

[eager marsh]

also the only thing you can summon is 'nonmagical trinket' which is a category of item that is explained

[weary raft]

I see, thank you

[eager marsh]

Can you give me an example of something 'implied' rather than stated?

[hybrid elbow]

I finally found a serious group to play with. after like... 8 years... ill finally (hopefully) have a campaign full of competent people

[fossil hollow]

casting protection from good and evil to ward off the schedule conflict demon

[hybrid elbow]

good news, we are all the same age and in the same grade so schedule conflicts for the most part should be consistent

[worn lagoon]

Amethyst dragonborn ig?

[eager marsh]

Yea those do exist, as rare as they are

[violet basin]

Brooch of Shielding
Armor of Resistance
Potion of Resistance
Absorbing Tattoo
Deck o Wonder

[fossil hollow]

ive only ever played topaz or crystal dragonborns

[worn lagoon]

I have a crystal dragonborn necromancer

[eager marsh]

could have sworn brooch was immune

[valid geyser]

The slow spell saved my life today

Had a fight with a horned devil as a level 5 party. It’s incredible what it can do to just make a monster offensively and defensively useless

[violet basin]

well, luckily, we have the internet to check things.
but if it is immunity, even better!

[valid geyser]

The biggest danger to me was getting hit by an NPC’s fireball

[fossil hollow]

unfortunately its been going to shit lately

[unborn lotus]

I like dragons but not dungeons. Can I play this game?

[valid geyser]

No.

[violet basin]

yes, you can of course play Dominos and Dungeons

[unborn lotus]

Despair 😭😭

[eager marsh]

I was just not counting immunity as resistance lol

[violet basin]

or Doms and Dungeons

or Dangers and Dungeons

Demons and Dungeons

[fossil hollow]

to the dungeon with you

[unborn lotus]

That takes away the only element I liked

[glass granite]

Don’t worry, we got Donuts and Donuts here

[violet basin]

Dogs and Diamonds

[unborn lotus]

Donuts, Dungeons and Dragons 🤤

[violet basin]

Perrigoes and Prisons

Cellars and Cats

[empty thicket]

you can in fact evade dungeons, but the thing is, dungeons will haunt you

[rugged hawk]

Sometimes literally, if it's a Mimic Dungeon 👀

[empty thicket]

welp, there is mimic caves if im not wrong, idk if such creature can be bigger like some big building.
Mimic ships would be neat to see in some sort of pirate setting. A bond between a crew and a mimic ship

[rugged hawk]

There is in fact a known Mimic Ship crewed by Mimic Pirates.

[empty thicket]

mimic pirates werent my goal but i guess it work

[rugged hawk]

Even mimics like to adventure sometimes

[empty thicket]

Oh yeah, the mimic knight with the ranger that is 3 kobolds in a trenchcoat, the cleric that in reality is a warlock and finally the elf berserker

OH and i forgot the Goliath that is a Wizard

[woven flint]

Sounds like an average party to me

[rugged hawk]

Nah, he forgot the orphan thief with edgy backstory

[hollow stone]

i actually have a warlock masquerading as a wizard right now!

[woven flint]

My Warlock is a Warlock

[glass granite]

My monk is a monk

[lone coral]

my rogue is a rogue

[hollow stone]

the party and her think her magic comes from patterns intrinsic to the universe, synchronized in such a way to impress an effect into the world from The Weave, but she is actually worshipping an old deity and neither her nor her people know they are worshipping this ancient deity or performing its rituals

this warlock thinks she's a wizard but is actually a fighter warlock multiclass

[potent garden]

My rangers a rogue

[hushed mason]

My rogue is an acrobat.

[woven flint]

My Rogue is a Cat

[full wadi]

my wife was a tiefling

[wintry bane]

One of my Sorcerer concepts is that he's a descendant of a bloodline which had been turned into the phylactery of a powerful lich who was sealed away in a demi-plane long ago.

The idea is that at some point the lich will have discovered a way to slowly extend his influence past the bounds of the demi-plane and begin trying to use the Sorcerer as a host to return to life.

Phylactery?

Idk the spelling.

[tall forge]

Phylactery

[wintry bane]

Thx

[minor lake]

Honestly the reason I picked gloomstalker right here

[potent garden]

Real, I always wanted to play a tabaxi. Might make a “lawful good” Druid (messed up place that is objectively evil) be a tabaxi or a drow

[wintry bane]

A cat that wildshapes into a druid

[potent garden]

If only dnd beyond let me be gloomstalker. Got stuck to Hunter

[minor lake]

They don't let you take gloomstalker?

Oh u probably have to pay for the book

[woven flint]

They probably don't have the book with Gloomstalker

[potent garden]

Yeah, probably. Might another day. Just bought Mordenkainen presents monsters of the multiverse

[minor lake]

NICE

[potent garden]

Came today actually

[minor lake]

there's some dope stuff in there also some really cool items iirc

[fast latch]

Since people in real life sometimes close one eye to aim better, should only having one eye not give Disadvantage on Ranged Attacks?

[potent garden]

Hyped to look through all its stuff

[potent garden]

Depends on the eye

[minor lake]

You could make that argument, you could also argue that only having one eye impacts your depth perception

[woven flint]

I don't think it gives disadvantage lol

[minor lake]

In terms of the game I think it depends on the class. Giving a ranger disadvantage on ranged attacks would be rough

Could be a fun idea for an NPC to have or if the player likes the idea for their character

It's hard too bc I feel like once you establish that's how it works, that's how it works

[potent garden]

Thatd be absolutely evil

[minor lake]

I would say yes to it if like a player came to me with that idea of like "my one eyed barbarian dwarf wants to try and use a bow this one time" i might pitch the idea to them

[rustic crypt]

Anyone know of a VTT discord bot that can be used on mobile?

[minor lake]

I think it's character specific
Honestly a character with one eye who is really good with a bow is rad

[minor lake]

Not i, sorry

[empty thicket]

welp, there can be some Risk bennefit idea
Might have one less eye making all ranged attacks in disadvantage but it have a 1d8 if it hit for being so skilled with it or smt.

[blissful tundra]

god i wanna play dnd with a group so bad but its scary to join people that seem so serious about the game, specially considering i dont know much qwp

[full wadi]

read the rules, and determine if a prospective table has also read the rules

that'll give you your best odds

[empty thicket]

there isnt too much "serious" sometimes, you can always have a session 0 or test session with someone group or Dm and then you see how things go

and if you dont try, how you will find a group to enjoy this funny game?

You wont burn the ships if you try so, dont worry too much too

[blissful tundra]

i guess thats fair, idk, i might just be anxious of trying out something like that with people that dont know me

[raw maple]

Hello im landon, im newer to dnd and me and my friend wants a small group to learn he complete beginner but would love to learn also need someone who can DM

[empty thicket]

that is the same for them and its totally okey, go slowly and steady buddy.
I guess your biggest fear must be roleplay but remember, everybody is there for fun. there is no pressure.
Go slowly, steady and nice. Dont overthink and finally enjoy a good fantasy adventure with some people that might turn into friends for future adventures

[empty thicket]

good, if you have any questions in any thing #dnd-newcomers place will give you the best help possible and for the DM you can try in #looking-for-dm too, there you can might find a DM that fit in your times, style and other stuff. Would recommend like a Test for both sides.
A simple oneshot

[raw maple]

Thx you!!

[empty thicket]

and please, both sides. Read your stuff.

[tribal mesa]

What bard subclass would compliment another player playing a zealot barbarian?

[empty thicket]

2014 or 24?

[meager fractal]

Dance or Moon prolly. The increased movement potential of Dance is going to make you the Zealot's (who sacs movement for damage and tankiness) best friend

Whereas the healing of Moon Bard is going to come in handy as barbarians get hit alot

[rustic crypt]

If you think roleplaying with strangers is scary you might wanna join a text based game, truthfully it's not as fun as a normal game, but I struggle with social anxiety so that's how I play

[blissful tundra]

it’s not that i’m afraid of people, it’s more the fear of messing up/being judged cuz im new

[tribal mesa]

2014

[rustic crypt]

oh I see, well most people I know are very kind and love teaching new players stuff. If people are judgemental they probably wouldn't be fun to play with either way

[potent mountain]

Hey there all

[rustic crypt]

Hello yellow

[potent mountain]

Greetings , kirk

[rustic crypt]

Don't call me that

[meager fractal]

ah in that case...lore bard should supplement them well.

[potent mountain]

My bad

[rustic crypt]

No worries bestie

[potent mountain]

Aight well anywhos

[meager fractal]

Party of level 3s...just had a bunch (5) bearded devils emerge from portals and are coming towards us...are we in trouble lol

[potent mountain]

Bearded devils???

Arent those really strong

[potent mountain]

How many people in the party? What classes?

[zinc plaza]

hai

[potent mountain]

Yello

[burnt valley]

Stay out of range and shoot it with longbows

[potent mountain]

No way, lime scout its you

[zinc plaza]

i think ima play homebrew dnd with my gf and her family

im dm cos apparently nobody wants to be dm

slight issue: idk how dnd works (i only seen it on the advantis youtube thingy)

[burnt valley]

Yes im lime scout from tf2

[potent mountain]

Dont fall into the trap of forever dm

[zinc plaza]

but it does sound cool to frick them over in a funny way

[stuck shuttle]

You’re fine at ranged pretty much. You’re double fine if you’re full or near full on all your resources

[stuck shuttle]

I wouldn’t recommend homebrewing stuff as a newbie, unless you mean a custom setting

[zinc plaza]

or i can do succession game

where other person becomes dm and they only see what is avaliable and just makes up stuff

[potent mountain]

Whoa man your an artificer main?

[zinc plaza]

hmm i see

[potent mountain]

Teach me your ways, please do

[woven flint]

Hello, friends :>

[potent mountain]

Yello

[tall forge]

How do we feel about amnesiac characters

[woven flint]

They can be okay, I do think its a subject that should be handled with care

[tall forge]

Im not a fan personally, save few exceptions

[empty thicket]

depend if the player//Dm use it properly for the plot or some arc

There is always the "i dont want to write a story so my character have amnesia", heard it a pair of times.
Not so... "good" idea

[fair summit]

Can be potentially fun, depending on how much freedom I have to work with as the DM, but it is kind of a lazy option from a player side 😛

[tall forge]

Agreed

They def need something between start of campaign and being amnesiac at least

[marble lion]

if you use it to dodge writing a backstory, thats lazy but if everyone is fine with it then why not
if you do it for an actual backstory, thats fine but an overdone trope so be careful not to put it on too thick or people will eyeroll

[empty thicket]

Like, i wont deny, i would prefer a PC that is " i want to restart in my life so i burned my past and even changed my name" and in some plot moment you get some of that past haunt that PC.

[fair summit]

Oh definitely. Interesting personality or some kind of background between at the very least

[marble lion]

just worth remembering its an often casual homegame activity done as play

[stuck shuttle]

Artificer is one of those classes that seems more complicated than it is. It’s really fun being able to guarantee yourself magic items

[empty thicket]

Or just the character have a not so good past and want to hide it, that is more interesting.
Or dont hide it but make it sound so hilarious that no one trust it.
"Yeah, im a cleric but before i was in a cult. After summoning a demon and.... some stuff happened i wanted to change my ways"
And in some future the party found that demon he had "past" and say "hello darling" and no one expect the cleric being who is talking to

[potent mountain]

I played artificer for my first time in dnd, I liked it

[empty thicket]

Depend giga too much of teh subclass, one is offensive, another is utility in general, another is more tankish

[potent mountain]

I saw myself out because I got the assumption artificer isnt liked at most tables

[empty thicket]

In the end of the day dont change that is kinda supportish class too

[potent mountain]

Also trying to try new stuff

[marble lion]

did you play it as a techy?

[tall forge]

Just gotta fit the tech level of the world

[marble lion]

thats the usual trope that leads to people either hating or loving it

[potent mountain]

What do you mean by that?

[marble lion]

too modern for the usually very medieval europe setting

[tall forge]

In my medieval fantasy world, i make guy with mechs

[potent mountain]

Obviously I didnt make a glock 9 at level 1, i hated that stereotype

[tall forge]

Or threaten to make a nuke

[marble lion]

same thing as warforged players being known to be divisive

both attract character concepts that are way out of place in many games

[potent mountain]

Nope

[tall forge]

It’s important to try and fit the magic level/science level of the setting

[marble lion]

suddenly you have legolas and aragorn rolling up with r2d2

[empty thicket]

isnt that needed too. You can be tricky with the most medieval tech.
Can make literally tons of bombs in many ways, traps, mechanisms.
Just getting access to springs make you be x10 more dangerous

[stuck shuttle]

A lot of people wrongly stereotype Artificer as a high tech or steampunky class

[marble lion]

which it isnt at all

[empty thicket]

but then the DM can make springs hard to make or get and then you have a way to balance it

[potent mountain]

Amen

But im trying other stuff im trying fighter now

[marble lion]

but its grown legs so now people actively make warforged or artis super techy from time to time, and those then either clash with the game or people love them

[tall forge]

Like for me, i allow guns

But guns are basically magic tools which use base cantrips to fire bullets

[empty thicket]

I would like that arti be able to like, take out an effect in some weapons and then transfer it to another. So it kinda justify my hoarding

[tall forge]

Ie. control water to increase water pressure, then releasing it to shoot fast

[potent mountain]

Thats what my dm did

[marble lion]

considering control water cant deal damage, i doubt it can build up enough pressure for any gun

[empty thicket]

if there is blackpowder, you can put a blackpowder bomb inside of a pouch with caltrops and then you have a really dangerous bomb

or just make fire bombs with some clay and oils

[tall forge]

Id argue if you got a magic item constantly casting it, youd be fine

[empty thicket]

pepper bottles for blind enemies, etc. etc. All depending of how creative you can be and the DM let you

[marble lion]

dangerous path

[tall forge]

But thats dm dependent st the end of the day

What’s important is having it be plausible in the world your character is in

[empty thicket]

but perce, the magic items the Arti can make are already giga good

and infussions help a lot.
Repeating shot, magic weapons//armors

[tall forge]

Real

[empty thicket]

Armors pieces that help with ltos of saves or let you use some sort of spells, like this boots that let you do misty step

[sage adder]

hi im new here

[devout grail]

Hello I am new too

[sage adder]

hi

[devout grail]

Hello nercury, what got you into dnd?

[sage adder]

7th grade and then just kept going from there

[devout grail]

Oh that’s really great keep up Kier

[sage adder]

you?

[rustic crypt]

Anyone know of a VTT discord app that also works on mobile? I love the mini kraken one but it doesn't work on mobile

[woven flint]

@devout grail @sage adder
Welcome friends!
#learn-to-play is a good place to start!

[desert rivet]

I played a lot of dragon quest so naturally I’ll be here

[woven flint]

Welcome :>

[meager fractal]

Roll20 is launching mobile version soon

[rustic crypt]

Thank you goats, any idea when?

approximately

[meager fractal]

Not sure. Can't find the info where they said it was a focus now

[rustic crypt]

Think I found it, seems to be in like 15 hours #1224916068988878970 message

So, very soon

Though that says in browser :/

[austere axle]

do any of you have experience on evil alignments roleplayed well in a mostly good aligned party?

[meager fractal]

Not really

[rustic crypt]

I imagine lawful evil could work if they have the same goal as the party,

or neutral

[hushed mason]

In the group I'm running, we have a LE character in a mostly-good aligned party. I was clear that he needed to have reasons for his character to get along, and being evil in this setting doesn't preclude one from employment automatically.

I don't think that most of the party even knows he's 'evil'.

[devout grail]

The evil character I created is a k*d and he control sea monsters lol

[rustic crypt]

scylla?

[tall forge]

Its tough, but it depends on what your evil characters goals are

My “evil” character was just someone hell bent on revenge, and was willing to use anyone and anything to get it

Led to some good rp with the party and a close bond eventually, my guy turning more neutral

[austere axle]

I only tried it twice before, once in LMOP as a weird hobgoblin who was with the party against one of the big bads, and as an ogre in icewind dale. The former went well as it became a redemption story. My idea was for the latter to be one too but it turned out my party was way more evil than I was lmao.
I have been asked by one of my players for our new CoS game if an evil drow would be fine and I am not sure on how to go ahead with it

[tall forge]

Ask what their goals for being evil are

If its “rule the world” level, probably not

[final sequoia]

I finally got the opportunity to learn and play 3 Dragon Ante today. I had a blast and will be incorporated this in to my game I am running as a down time activity. I will let my players use there in game gold for the game. I had fun and laughed at the craziness of the game.

[devout grail]

Aww man I thought I was orginal enough

[spring glen]

I have the game as well I need to learn it for my game I as a DM played a chess game with my player when he wanted to go agnest a npc with dragonchess

Also my players like to do rock paper sizers with a d3

[rustic crypt]

Haha no it's okay, everything is similar to something

There are no original thoughts

[devout grail]

I guess I can changed the gender a bit

[tall forge]

I mean, just make what you want and dont care if its not original

[rustic crypt]

yeah

[final sequoia]

I currently have a player who is playing an LE character. The rest of the party does not know his alignment. We had a discussion before we started playing this campaign. I laid some ground rules and made sure that if he did something that would break the law that there would be consquences if caught. I usually don't let evil characters in my game. That being said I once played in a game back in the day where I was the LG Paladin and our wizard was LE. we made it work and both of us had fun. It would depend on the player how well I know him meaning what kind of a player he is before I would let an evil player in my game. It can be done just make sure there are ground rules in place.

[spring glen]

My NE warforged wizard doesn't understand humanity

So far I've cut up the dead in front of the party, almost killed a orphan, and my favorite Fed a guy his dead horses meat

I got a Question for you guys. Since copying spells from one spell book to another takes time and money. If you guys were to become a litch with immortality. How long would you keep a spell book before you changed your mind about the color, and copied it to a different style book?

[unborn lotus]

I'm very sentimental about objects and anything I collect I put my personality into. And I never regret anything.

So never. changing spellbook would be like the upmost evil I could possibly do

Imagine having so weak of a spine that you discard a book you've been keeping for years based on the colour! Every stroke in that book is a piece of myself that I will not get rid of

You'll regret changing your spellbook mark my words!

Yes, my minecraft world is 15 years old, and my animal crossing island is immaculate.

[gray granite]

what feats should I take for my 2014 swords bard satyr?

[unborn lotus]

Ability score increase 😎

[tall forge]

Honestly, yeah…. There arent exactly good feats

Maybe magic initiate to get booming blade?

That plus mobile flourish is pretty great

Though when you get extra attack it gets a bit scuff

[gray granite]

if I take moblile I could have 55 feet of movement when I use a flourish

[tall forge]

also technically it doesn’t work

I mean yeah, but 55 movement feet for what?

[gray granite]

should I take fey touched?

[tall forge]

Its not a bad choice for sure but only if you need the movement

Though, mobile is better

[tall forge]

Also you misunderstand

You get that +10 movement feet if you take the attack action, flourish or not

[gray granite]

The mobile feat

Satyr is 35 + 10 (mobile) + 10 (flourish)

[umbral girder]

It’s useful. Mental ASI boost, Free Misty step without slot once a day and a 1rst level spell with the same. Also can work with spell slots afterwards.

[tall forge]

Yeah, i was just saying you dont need to use a flourish

[gray granite]

Ohh ok

[umbral girder]

Helps you stay versatile. Plus Misty step helps breaks some grapples and retrains

[tall forge]

You just need to attack someone to get that +10 movement speed from flourish

[gray granite]

Just whenever i attack

[tall forge]

Both mobile and fey touch imo are equal

No opportunity attacks and movement as a permanent passive

VS

More versatility but limited usage

[gray granite]

or just take both

[tall forge]

I mean the ASI’s are really good

Especially for a swords bard who needs

Dex, con, charisma

[gray granite]

Warcaster > Fey Touched > ASI > Mobile > Skill Expert?

[tall forge]

Your base stats are gonna suffer a bit still

[gray granite]

what order do you reccomend?

[tall forge]

Id just drop fey touched personally

Most of the spells besides misty step you get by being a bard

And a one use misty step is meh, you have other ways of getting out of a grapel

[gray granite]

actualy, i'm not dual wielding so I might not need warcaster?

[umbral girder]

Yeah Swords Bard is pretty M.A.D.

[tall forge]

Magic initiate + booming blade

And warcaster if you gotta

The advantage on concentration saves is really good

Being able to reaction attack with booming blade would be huge

Wanna be even more evil?

Take sentinel, magic initiate(for booming blade) and warcaster

[umbral girder]

You really want it

[gray granite]

ok

[halcyon forum]

booming blade and sentinel dont work together

[gray granite]

what order of feats would you reccomend

[umbral girder]

Because the reaction attack is great damage or control

Also War Caster gives advantage on concentration which is very important

[tall forge]

Ah shoot didnt know

[umbral girder]

Tbh I’d go War Caster and the rest ASIs

Sword Bard needs a lot.

[tall forge]

It’s definitely not bad imo, but it faces what all melee spellcaster s face

[gray granite]

I might take mobile though, just for speed build. Because I like it.

[tall forge]

The fact that bladesinger is better in every way

[umbral girder]

It’s no Rogue, Fighter, or pretty much every other Bard subclass because those guys have more fear potential.

[tall forge]

But realistically, its trying to do melee stuff and spells

Without them being combined at all

Best way to play is to find a good spell to concentrate on (heat metal, charm person, etc) and then melee attack the rest, using flourishes for defensive purposes

The mobile feats great for that

[umbral girder]

Eldritch Knight, Arcane trickster, Battle Smith, Paladin, and Rangers likely do the Gish builds best

Without going too M.A.D. At least

[candid cave]

Wild magic sorcerer

[umbral girder]

Eldritch Knight and Arcane Trickster got more ASIs than all the other classes.
Battlesmith just needs Int and a bit of Con.
Ranger has a lot of spells that ignore Wisdom
Paladin can get away with a lot with their Aura being super defensive.

[tall forge]

Paladin does gish better than the others

But warlock also can gish build pretty strong

Arcane tricksters great but it falls into the rogue issue of “you miss one attack and your turns basically over”

But thats a personal peeve of mine playing rogue

[umbral girder]

As opposed to Warlock, Paladin, Battlesmith, and Rangers “you miss two attacks turn is over”

Meanwhile Fighter just gots attacks for days.

[tall forge]

Yes

[cerulean monolith]

The best way to play is the way that the player enjoys most

[tall forge]

Also, warlocks and paladins get a bonus action where they can cast spells

[tall forge]

Agreed, shoulda put “optimal” way to play

[tall forge]

Rogues just sora do their one single thing and then its over

Like bonus action dash/hide/disengage for great positioning

[umbral girder]

Besides dashing, disengaging, hiding, (for Trickster) mage hand, and wizard spell foolery with the right choice

[tall forge]

Yeah but mage hand tomfoolery is very dm dependent i find

Limitations of a mage hand are many

Rogue in general is campaign dependent since they excel outside of combat more so than inside

[hot reef]

Or attempt to get 2 sneak attacks per round

[tall forge]

RAW you cannot get the benefit of sneak attack twice on the same turn

Has to either be an opportunity attack or hold action attack with haste

[hot gate]

I assume that's why Herambe said round instead of turn.

[tall forge]

Yeah but they also replied to the bonus action talking point, so I wasn’t sure

[hot gate]

Ah, gotcha

[hot reef]

I agree with the above five messages

[real epoch]

hii whats going on?

[unborn lotus]

Whatever you want to be going on

You've entered a fresh chat, if there's no messages in 10 min what you have is a blank canvas

[ashen orchid]

what book should i buy next as a player i currently own Players hand book, monsters of the multiverse and tashas couldren

im thinking of buying ravenloft

[deft juniper]

Hey

How are you all

[wooden summit]

Would a bardiche count as a halberd or a glaive? As far as I could tell, the only difference between the two types are their Mastery Properties.

[unborn lotus]

Which players handbook?

[pliant sapphire]

Glaive imo

[ashen orchid]

5.5e

[unborn lotus]

Xanathars is the next must have corebook if you want more subclasses... Though like Tasha's it's somewhat out of date

[pliant sapphire]

Heroes of Faerun

[unborn lotus]

Otherwise the recent Faerun Player guide or Eberron guide both have important player options compatible with 5.5e

I'd discourage Ravenloft as D&D is going to release a 2024 Ravenloft book as their next release

So you should hold off so you can make sure you get the most up to date options 😀

Id say Faerun is your best option though Eberron has the Artificer which is a pretty big deal

[ashen orchid]

thx u

[full wadi]

Spelljammer

I think it's facinating, personally

Even if you don't use it as-is at face value, it can be an interesting starting point if you wanna do your own multiverse concept. Butcher its contents up as you please to assemble your own thing - but that could be said of any non-core book tbh

[candid cave]

Someone a thousand years ago, before computers were a thing, could’ve been talented at using IT

[full wadi]

Is IT an acronym for something, or are we talking about the Stephen King book with the clown

[stark tundra]

For all we know the man who could cure cancer was already born but died because he was born in the wrong time

[full wadi]

or into the wrong tax bracket, if we're getting into it

[unborn lotus]

Is there any official list of WoTC published 5e material?
It's easy to find the books, but the more I search the more I find rabbit holes if PDFs and D&D Beyond Exclusives and random blog posts with official content from the early days.
There's seriously so much official 5e content, has anybody tracked it all?

I've found a few lists online but it usually takes me like 8 seconds to see that they are missing something

[full wadi]

This is the same system where we have to consult dev-answered questions in a compiled sage advice compendium

Organizing information coherently is not a strong suit

I'm not saying the list doesn't exist, but I am saying I'm not surprised you have trouble finding it...

But yeah Spelljammer is my genuine suggestion

[rough basalt]

Probably a reddit post somewhere and even then

[unborn lotus]

I have searched and delved. I don't think there is one 🤣
I did see the famous thread that comes up on google before the creator removed the spreadsheet... But it was far from complete unfortunately 🥲

[rough basalt]

yeah its easy to find all the official printed books

but then you got the ddb only exclusives and other stuff

Like the ddb sequel adventures for Dragon of Icespire Peak, the little ddb exclusives that came with the FR bundle

[humble cairn]

Or woman for that matter, or someone of the wrong skin color to have access to the correct tools.

[stark tundra]

Yep

[full wadi]

Those poor tieflings...

[stark tundra]

Only good tiefling is a dead one

[full wadi]

Even if they could have cured cancer? For shame

[stark tundra]

Yes

[humble cairn]

Maybe we can refrain from the fantasy racism?

I agree with the mod here: #dnd-discussion message

[reef tundra]

Every time I make a character, I have to refrain from making another Tiefling, the urge just hits hard

[full wadi]

What keeps you from making an orc besides - well, how much do you enjoy playing martials?

Iirc they're stuck with +2 Str as their main racial stat buff, barring GM allowed homebrew

[humble cairn]

Current rules don't have ASI's associated with species, but with Background.

[rough basalt]

And they started phasing out species ASI in Tashas with custom origin and species becoming pick your own stats

[humble cairn]

And even before the 2024 update, there was the Tasha's optional rule of being able to assign ASI freely, no homebrew necessary.

[fair summit]

Also Tasha's allows you to apply your ASI anywhere

[undone tendon]

Haye

[full wadi]

I guess it's a question of what tables @reef tundra is usually playing at

[humble cairn]

Hive mind being hivey.

[rough basalt]

My usual species hilariously enough is human

[full wadi]

I usually assume 5e2014 rules with minimal variants unless otherwise told

[real epoch]

oh😲

[rough basalt]

Considering I'll often state the community's tendency to pick from one of 4 species
Human, Elf, Tiefling, Dwarf.

[worn lagoon]

+2/+1 being strictly tied to species sounds awful, i would never force that upon anyone tbh

[real epoch]

haha lol

[full wadi]

Which human, lmao

[reef tundra]

I’m usually the dungeon master, I’ve only been a player at two tables and both are story first with combat complimenting the plot

[worn lagoon]

its definitely why there are #84237942804 dragonborn paladins

[undone tendon]

How are you all

[humble cairn]

So far the only species I have repeated playing is Forest Gnome.

[rough basalt]

I play '24 humans a lot due to the feat and daily inspiration.

[full wadi]

My boots in the ground experience is that people stick with the old stuff due to it having more video guide content

I try to teach the new stuff of course, but to variable success

[past iron]

This might be a weird question, but is it possible to play a character made out of rock, who punches things?

[rough basalt]

Earth Genasi Monk

[humble cairn]

Nice because of Blade Ward.

[full wadi]

A very weird warforged can also work

[rough basalt]

They're more earthy human than rock golem, but if you wanna be Ben Grimm-lite it can work nicely

[past iron]

That's exactly who I was of thinking with the idea.

[rough basalt]

An unarmed barbarian could work well too

Given how tanky Ben is.

[full wadi]

How many barb subclasses have innate unarmed benifits? Iirc there was just the one with partial shapeshifting in legacy 5e

[humble cairn]

The only Barb I like with unarmed currently is Beast.

[full wadi]

Is that the only-only one

[humble cairn]

Beast Barb is not considered Legacy.

It is still current.

I played a Beast Barb as a wuxia style martial artist using martial techniques instead of shapeshifting. It was Eagle Claw Style instead of actual claws. It worked pretty great, actually.

[full wadi]

Legacy is my shorthand for "this was in 5e2014, even if it was also copied into 5e2024"

Sorry for not clarifying

[humble cairn]

Right, but Beast was not copied into '24 yet.

[full wadi]

So it's """current"""

[humble cairn]

You're totally correct about what "Legacy" means, but Beast is not that, yet.

It is 100% currently legal.

[full wadi]

Legal to use and current are distinct in my mind but maybe that's just the logic-based autism acting up aha

[humble cairn]

It is both.

[full wadi]

I love paradoxes, this system is full of them /j

[humble cairn]

The 2024 update is still the same edition, it's just a patch.

[full wadi]

Are we allowed to call it 5.5e or is that forbidden

[humble cairn]

You can call it that, but it's unofficial.

[full wadi]

If people get what I mean when I say it, it's good enough for me lol

[pliant sapphire]

5.5e or 5e 2024

[humble cairn]

My personal unofficial moniker is Fifth Edition Revised, or 5ER.

[hot gate]

Sometimes it confuses people and invokes unhelpful comparisons. For example, 2024 isn't like 3.5e was to 3e.
The term 5.5e also never shows up in official books.

[full wadi]

Nanami profile pic, immediate respect

[humble cairn]

But officially it's just 5E.

[humble cairn]

I recently went to the theater to see that movie, but it was kind of disappointing. But anyway, that's off topic.

[full wadi]

On reddit and other large communities of discussion, like old-old forums proper, 5.5e has been accepted into the (yes, unofficiall) community lexicon.

[humble cairn]

Beast Barb is the easiest barbarian to do unarmed fighting.