dnd-discussion

[prime basin]

I would be slinging shots riding down an uruk-hai shield as legolas

[rough basalt]

I did that last night in my vecna game with a skill check

My Sleight of Hand bonus is so high that any RAW check for it autopasses

[hot marlin]

Yeah happened to me once. I was spying on a party member, who tried to find my character. DM said "Even if he rolls a 1 and you roll a 20, it won't be enough. His stealth is just too high"

[rough basalt]

+20 on SoH as a rogue is hilarious

Just guaranteed 30

And in 3 levels it's a guaranteed 32

[stoic haven]

Omg

I'll take my +17 Persuasion Ranger and leave ig

There is no competition

[prime basin]

Bro looks at vecna and his eye and hand just magically appear in his hands

[rough basalt]

I'm enjoying my rogue

It's just constant big damage

[stoic haven]

Gotta love rogues

[rough basalt]

And it's gonna get a lot worse in 3 levels

[stoic haven]

Which sub?

[rough basalt]

Scion of the Dead Three, cause scion capstone turns all rolls on sneak attack to at least a 3 if they're a 1 or 2

[stoic haven]

Oh?

[rough basalt]

Guaranteed 30 damage at max sneak attack die

60 on a crit.

And that's assuming you're rolling all 1s and 2s

[stoic haven]

What level is this 0-0

[rough basalt]

Level 17 is when you get it which is when sneak attack is 9d6 so little less but still

Also the teleport so you can sometimes sneak attack twice per round

[balmy pendant]

When I’m looking through the 2024 monster manual I noticed that the names for attacks are much more flavourful than in 2014. 2014 had generic names like a type of weapon or slam and 2024 has additional descriptors that add how the attack looks like. Don’t you agree?

[rough basalt]

Yeah, I like the new MM

[stoic haven]

New MM > Old MM

[rough basalt]

My Tuesday dm when I tell him Vecna takes another 100 damage on my reaction attack:

[hidden spindle]

It kept it simple. Good but too simple for me. But it did a good job updating creatures

[prime basin]

new mm is better but i prefer 2014 rules

[rough basalt]

I don't use anything from the old rules personally

I feel bad for the next enemy I crit with my rogues dagger

Me looking at my Tuesday dm when I tell him wacky woo-hoo barovia man takes 18d6 damage.

[humble cairn]

D3 Rogue sounds pretty nasty.

[stoic haven]

Only thing I would like is maybe grappling rules from 2014, some subclasses, the conjure spells, and thats it

[balmy pendant]

Do additional on-hit effects being applied without saving throw make the game a lot more brutal or not?

[prime basin]

If I was a dm, I think i'd run 2014 rules with new MM

[rough basalt]

Sort of.

[humble cairn]

Ooh boy not me, the Grappling changes in 2024 are my favorite of the changes.

[hidden spindle]

D3 Rogue is... okay

[crimson gulch]

Yes and that's good

[stoic haven]

I like the idea of being able to add athletics to it

[rough basalt]

It challenges players better

[dim wasp]

do ya all know what a gammoth is out of curiosity

[stoic haven]

I think they really helped monk, but did hurt barbarian a little

[balmy pendant]

Aren’t the old conjure spells a pain for the DM?

[rough basalt]

I like grappling being more for what makes sense imo

[humble cairn]

The changes make the whole thing make more sense and balance things to the right classes and characters.

[rough basalt]

Only if the player doesn't know how to use them really

[hidden spindle]

That's where you make the players work for it. Or you do the work yourself.

[humble cairn]

I honestly don't think so?

[stoic haven]

Eh, just slow players, and tbh, one of my favorite subclasses of my favorite class is Shepherd Druid, a sub that doesnt work in 2024

[balmy pendant]

For me things like charmed applied this way feel weird to me

[rough basalt]

Yeah, no Rogues being better grapplers than barbarians

[dim wasp]

imagine monster hunter monsters in DnD

[hidden spindle]

Didn't it get buffed?

[humble cairn]

No, it kind of broke.

[stoic haven]

Somewhat, but also no

[rough basalt]

Nah it has some features that don't function with the current rules

[balmy pendant]

I think they mean that new conjure spells don’t actually summon

[stoic haven]

Conjuring 8+ animals is just stupidly good in combat

[dim wasp]

does no one here know what monster hunter is

[stoic haven]

Tons of bodies

[stoic haven]

Nope, you are correct

[rough basalt]

Also you'd have players who can barely handle their own sheet using it then taking like 10 years to do 1 turn

[humble cairn]

Having played with a Druid who did that, it bogged combat down. Even with a good player and a DM who was helping.

[hidden spindle]

I mean, you get '14 summons AND '24 Conjure Animals.

[dim wasp]

can u call animals as a druid?

[balmy pendant]

To turn combat into a slog, yes 😂

[humble cairn]

There is a Third Party (thus not official) class named that, but officially there is the Monster Slayer Ranger subclass.

[dim wasp]

have u heard of the monster hunter games by chance?
monster hunter wilds
monster hunter world?

[humble cairn]

Yes, I've watched people play it.

[hidden spindle]

Grind for the Wyvern Gem with a Hunting Horn and three othe players or a Palico...

[dim wasp]

ye i was thinking imagine that x DnD

[stoic haven]

Houserules that helped that I've always played with: immediately after your turn (reasoning 1. They all do stuff at the same time, great. 2. Doesn't give choice paralysis from different scenarios each turn.), and 2. They all do the same thing if able

[dim wasp]

gib me ur stupid gem

[humble cairn]

There is Third Party book called Heliana's Guide to Monster Hunting that basically changes the game to be more like Monster Hunter.

[dim wasp]

how?

[humble cairn]

Don't haver to imagine it, I'm playing in a campaign that uses it. It's fun.

[stoic haven]

Summons don't work with shepherd druid. They don't have hit dice, so they dont benefit from Mighty Summoner, and almost all monsters got rid of nonmagical BPS resistance, so mighty summoner doesnt work

[hidden spindle]

Does it? Cause it appears you summon creatures still

[dim wasp]

let me innn(plesioth)

[humble cairn]

Whole new subsystems about tracking, hunting, fighting, harvesting, and crafting from monsters.

[hidden spindle]

I suppose I was more talking about its capstone. As for the rest of the feeatures.... there's still Summon Spells yeah?

[stoic haven]

Got some of my turns done in a minute and a half, only 30 seconds needed for the animals, I was more tactical

[dim wasp]

ooh whats the hunting like

[hidden spindle]

While '24 Conjure Animals no longer summons, Shepherds Capstone feature does.

[rough basalt]

The new summon spells don't use hit die and also there's no non-magical damage anymore so that parts useless

[dim wasp]

also are there mages? ** ophi** ?

[stoic haven]

Yea, so 14th level and 6th level don't work, and with only 1 summon, the totems and 10th level are a lot weaker

[rough basalt]

Yeah since new Conjure Animals is more of a mobile spirit guardians

[dim wasp]

guys is there a difference between conjuring and summoning?

[rough basalt]

Instead of several individual animals, you're conjuring basically a stampede that runs around running people over

[stoic haven]

It casts conjure animals, and says it summons the 4 animals of CR 2, but conjure animals doesnt do that in 2024

[dim wasp]

like one is calling animals and the other is creation?

[prime basin]

quick question for everyone in the chat, what is your guys favorite spellcasting class (including half-casters and subclasses that make you half-casters)

[stoic haven]

Ish? Different spells, but just the same thing

[hidden spindle]

I'm saying, using Shepherd Druid uses the '24 Conjure Animals AND summons with its own feature

[dim wasp]

i wanna say druid or sorcerer but i love both
let mme pick druid for now

[stoic haven]

Correct

[dim wasp]

so is there no vocabulary difference between the two? #dnd-discussion message

[rough basalt]

But '24 conjure animals doesn't function the same

[hidden spindle]

It doesn't need to function the same. Because the capstone summons their own

[dim wasp]

as in the player has less control over them?

[stoic haven]

Technically, no. Just minor differences in the spells' structure

[rough basalt]

In 2014 they were several animals put on the field

All with their own actions, hp ect.

[hot marlin]

I got a stupid worldbuilding idea...

[stoic haven]

Actually, thats a good point, and I would love to agree, would you mind us going to rules, because I would actually like this to be found out

[rough basalt]

In 2024 they're basically a stampede of animal spirits that just runs around doing damage based on where you tell them to go

[hidden spindle]

Shoot

[hidden spindle]

Totally will

[prime basin]

I'm thinking about playing a druid I made with a custom subclass for my next game, but it's in competition with my bloodhunter and paladin

[hot marlin]

The stupidest in fact. What if Orcus had a collection of undead kingdoms? Meaning that sometimes Orcus creates a curse on a kingdom so that when that kingdom falls, its inhabitants and their souls are collected, dragged into the abyss, turned undead, and frozen.

[dim wasp]

so whats different now

[prime basin]

I really like druids but I always had trouble finding a subclass I really liked

[rough basalt]

Ah I get what Shye means now

[stoic haven]

What do you like?

Because some stuff can be easily reflavored

[rough basalt]

Still the level 6 feature is completely useless in 2024 so that would need a homebrew change

[hot marlin]

You could have collections. A Yuan-Ti kingdom that fell to a plague inside Orcus' vault, all turned into skeletal snakes. Stone giants who fell to dragon fire. Dwarves who lost their fortress in a brutal war against orcs or elves and who fought till the last one fell. All eternally deathless, frozen at the moment their culture and civilization died. And sometimes Orcus wakes them up and lets them try to claim back their fallen lands

[pliant sapphire]

Summon Fey and Summon Animal still summons a creature

[rough basalt]

Yes but there's no non-magical damage anymore and summon spells don't use hit die

[stoic haven]

Tbh, I think it will resolve to a specific vs general, unless it specifies that it uses the 4 animals option, because that means it is needing the spell as that

[rough basalt]

So the level 6 feature does nothing in 2024

[prime basin]

I went for a darker/more vegeance themed druid...this one takes a "nightmare form" though and is actually designed around fighting up in the front though

[edgy socket]

Can I get some volunteers for my next dnd campaign?

[pliant sapphire]

Ah, true..

[rough basalt]

So what I'd do is change it to your summon can choose to do force damage (like the monk change) and your Druid level or twice druid level to their hp maybe

[prime basin]

post in #looking-for-players

[edgy socket]

Thank you

[stoic haven]

Ah, Shye, you were correct, and I happily agree with this

[dim wasp]

@humble cairn r u here

[rough basalt]

Or maybe you can add your Wis mod to your summons AC

[stoic haven]

Oh wisdom, thats interesting

[rough basalt]

Just spitballing in the area of how to replace their survivability buff

[stoic haven]

Or add HP equal to your druid level or 2x that? I don't remember the average amount of hit dice for the animals

[rough basalt]

That's the thing new summons dont use hit die

[stoic haven]

I think the unicorn and bear should be reworked and tweaked too

[rough basalt]

Which is why I'm contemplating how to fix their useless feature in 2024 rules (level 6 that relies on Nonmagical BPS existing and hit dice)

[stoic haven]

Bear should help on grappling and str saves, thats all it was really used for

[stoic haven]

Yea, so use your druid level instead

[prime basin]

Yeah but i meant more so like feature wise...I know I could reflavor stuff and just play like a circle of the moon druid but I was trying to think of something more fun...but I already made my homebrew subclass so its fine

[stoic haven]

I'm just trying to give a balanced increase thats a bit better and '14 hp increase because we are stuck to 1 summon

[stoic haven]

Spores druid works

Spores is a more Frontline ish druid

[prime basin]

it could, but It wasn't really working for me

If you want to look at my homebrew subclass you can, i think its fun

it might be slightly overtuned, but I just wanted to make sure I added some fun rp features because I think a lot of subclasses focus on just combat capability

[hidden spindle]

Summon Beast and Summon Fey.

[stoic haven]

Same thing, they don't have hit dice, it gives 2 hp for each hit dice

Summons have set up based on spell level

[dim wasp]

losing a familiar is painful

[hidden spindle]

Oh right

[stoic haven]

Very, but some just don't care

[dim wasp]

my big owl

it dedge :v

[dapper tendon]

Hey

[oak grotto]

People get emotional over their unkillable and summonable animal dying? That's kinda strange to me.

[idle oar]

Eh. Folks can get attached to things, even virtual or imaginary things.

[stoic haven]

I think it adds character, especially from Caleb from CR

[oak grotto]

I mean I understand getting attached to virtual pets. Familiars never felt like proper pets to me. But that's not my point. Familiars can't really die.

[loud tendon]

The creature is still a spirit with thoughts feelings and a personality.. fae fiend or celestial.

Often they help the caster a great deal so I get why people feel connected or less callous about them

[prime basin]

So real, I act non chalant when the creature that I chose to have tragically dies right infront of me even though I can technically just revive him

[small heath]

Hey. Doggies are cute tho 🥺

[prime basin]

some players will unironically get more emotionally shattered when they realize they have to spend gold to revive their familar over watching their familar die

[oak grotto]

I don't even like the find familiar spell. I'm sure it's a useful tool but it never felt like something fun. Then again I have never used the spell that many times.

[dim wasp]

impasta

ophi back

[dapper tendon]

?

[prime basin]

bro's favorite class is barbarian

me run in, me swing, me kill

[oak grotto]

I actually like wizards. I just never feel compelled to choose that spell.

[prime basin]

I don't choose find familar because I like other spells more

[humble cairn]

If someone doesn't answer, you can safely assume they are busy doing something else. The monster hunting is a big and somewhat complex system that rewards you for investing in a variety of skills. Its a bit of a learning curve, not something I would recommend for someone who is just learning the base system.

[dim wasp]

imposter

[oak grotto]

Same.

[dim wasp]

right sorry.
is there mages in monster hunter though and have u had any funny moments iwth it

[dapper tendon]

Why am I an imposter ?

[humble cairn]

Remember that "Mage" is not really a super defined term in D&D. It's not a class. But yes there are plenty of things for casters to do in Heliana's Guide.

[oak grotto]

I'm actually going to play a chain warlock. But her pet is going to be an imp.

[dim wasp]

because me and u are shark but i here first owo (dw this is joke)

[dim wasp]

funny moments?

[dapper tendon]

Oh 😂😂 I was a duck but now I’m a shark

[humble cairn]

I mean there have been funny moments in my campaign, yes.

[unborn lotus]

What's your must have spell for a first level wizard?

[empty thicket]

False life

[hidden spindle]

Identify

[empty thicket]

that temporal hp give you some "safety"

[dim wasp]

can u tell more please(go in detail)?

[oak grotto]

Mage armor. Anything else I choose depends on the kind of wizard I want to play.

[empty thicket]

100gp pearl, not so accesible at first level

[humble cairn]

I honestly don't have the mental energy at the moment to do a whole #tales-from-the-table story.

[unborn lotus]

Interesting, do you prefer False Life to Mage Armour?

[hidden spindle]

I spent the rest of my gold on it

[oak grotto]

Some DMs might be willing to let you start with the pearl.

[unborn lotus]

I mean you can have it in your spellbook 😛

[dim wasp]

okay sorry

[empty thicket]

False life can be used on you or an ally
Mage armor only on you and depend of your dext too but isnt a bad option

[oak grotto]

Mage armor can be cast on an ally.

[empty thicket]

yeah, but unless the dm is nice and idk "oh look, in that beach you found a pearl" sort of thing

[humble cairn]

Mage Armor can be cast on allies.

[empty thicket]

or you decide to be in a loincloth and have a pearl

[humble cairn]

Oh, I was too slow.

[empty thicket]

rolled low initiative, it happen

but yeah, survival at first levels is more important for me than offensive
Utility help, like always

[unborn lotus]

I think my players will generally acquire around 100gp by level 2 🤔

They're supposed to find a hoard once per session which is insane, so that's 500gp first session if you play RAW

[dim wasp]

whats a hoard? Laterbot?

[unborn lotus]

Actually not exactly, because the hoard explicitly doesn't just contain coins

[empty thicket]

I cant tell because if i summ all the gold i got in my principal session, i would be around the 400gp or 500 max

and im in like, the session n12 and level 6

[unborn lotus]

Check out the 2024 DMG Chapter 4: Adventure Rewards

It's basically just a bunch of treasure adventures should get

[dim wasp]

can i feed u feedback

[unborn lotus]

I would say they should get it after each complete arc, like finishing a dungeon so my players would be closer to every other session and sometimes a big gap

[empty thicket]

a pile of stuff, dragons tend to have "hoards" of stuff, gold, metal, idk....other stuffs

[dim wasp]

i still remember frieren only being allowed to take 3 items

[unborn lotus]

Sure? 😅

[empty thicket]

that at the same time can be mistaken by a hoard of frogs, would be funny that in the end of a dungeon there is a whole garden full of frogs and htat is teh "hoard" of that dungeon

[dim wasp]

i think ur idea of after every complete arc is a good idea i disagree with the idea of every session because then it just becomes blatant but what if u added a chance of finding a hoard after a mini boss or u gave players the choice between that or a spellbook?

[unborn lotus]

And if you follow the treasure rules in the DMG you can very roughly approximate how much treasure each player should gather per level, and then balance around that for things like, Spellscrolls, pistols, plate armour and potions

[unborn lotus]

It's not my idea 😅 that's the suggestion in the DMG

[outer wraith]

i love orcs

[dim wasp]

so i think for most characters like 5 pots,1 magic item,2 spells
but for wizards,sorcs,rangers,druids i think maybe make it like 5 3 4?
(this is based on int and wisdom and dex bonuses and their scavenging)

[unborn lotus]

A treasure hoard is made up of coins & tradebars (literal money) trade goods (whatever stuff the enemy might be hoarding, like in a mine it could be iron) gemstones, art and magic items

So a spellbook worth the same amount of gold could absolutely be considered a treasure hoard 😁

[dim wasp]

so a warrior would be handy then (donkey)

[unborn lotus]

Hi love orcs, I'm Nugget

[ruby kindle]

Hey so how much science in dnd is TOO MUCH science ? Asking for a Dwarf-human hybrid friend that wants to throw ALOT of mechs at his problems ...

[outer wraith]

nuggets🤤

[unborn lotus]

@glass granite

[crimson gulch]

you ahve to much

[outer wraith]

is dwarfs not already humans

[idle oar]

Dwarfs are not humans, but they are humanoid

[ruby kindle]

Arcane level science with magic crystals that power modular parts of mechs like gauntlets ? or ... skinny construct with thin but super durable arms and legs ?

[unborn lotus]

Yeah some hoards can be difficult to move, and I'm mean to my players about carry limits >:D

Also like a sculpture won't fit in your backpack so you gotta put it down somewhere safe in every encounter

[dim wasp]

this is why i need to attach a backpack to my owl mount

[unborn lotus]

How is he making and paying for the mechs? I'm pretty sure you can shut that down out the gate unless he has a mechanical justification

[ruby kindle]

Well here's the weird part , I get cursed and reduced to organs and ballistic jelly inside of one of the mechs ... to work as a pawn command unit while our ideas and strategy guy sits at the butt end of the world researching new better parts , weapons and armor for me to do his grunt work till I'm upto his level

[dim wasp]

dwarven connections

[unborn lotus]

If he's like "I invented it" just be like, the steam engine hasn't been invented in this world, your Dwarf has not in fact come up with future technology and there's no skill roll that could get you to that point.

However I like the idea of you being an inventor, what is something you think your dwarf could realistically build as a building block to the invention of mechs ten thousand years in the future?

Perhaps he figures out something like superheating iron to make superior weaponry

[ruby kindle]

scavenging , pillaging and sending in hordes of flesh golems .

[unborn lotus]

Yeah that's not realistic, scrap metal and no engine or computing components cannot make a mech

[severe rampart]

DnD isn't realistic to begin with

[unborn lotus]

Not even not realistic, just not possible in D&D

[severe rampart]

Is he pillaging human settlements?

[ruby kindle]

I already agreed because I get my own custom robot body loaded with gattling guns I hear dwarfs lug around these days

[unborn lotus]

Or are you a player and not a DM? 😅

[ruby kindle]

dark elves specifically ... What the dark elves do ?

[unborn lotus]

I was approaching a hypothetical my player wants to make mechs and I don't want that

[severe rampart]

DROWS?

[humble cairn]

Any, imo. In my fantasy settings, science isn't true.

[severe rampart]

He's pillaging DROW SETTLEMENTS?

[severe rampart]

Science can't "not" exist, science is just different in DnD, but I get what you mean

[ruby kindle]

This feels like reverse war crimes waiting to happen to me ..

[humble cairn]

Our current body of scientific knowledge is not true in my fantasy settings.

[unborn lotus]

I mean to what extent though haha you have to have like, very basic laws of logic and biology some physics

[unborn lotus]

I'm really curious about this approach, define not true

[ruby kindle]

These 'Drow settlements' scale of 1 to 10 how drukhari are they ?

[severe rampart]

and conservation of energy

[humble cairn]

In my settings cells do not exist. Everything looks generally the same, but rely on different principles. Gravity doesn't exist, but things fall down, generally because the gods decreed it so.

[crimson gulch]

were not playing warhammer here

[humble cairn]

Germs don't exist, but sickness does.

[unborn lotus]

Ok but like, can you light a fire with friction?

[ruby kindle]

im just fimiliar with WH40k this is new to me and I get the feeling Im being used for weapons testing

[humble cairn]

Firestarting kits would exist, but the principles they work on would be spiritual and/or magical.

[unborn lotus]

I believe there's a word for approaching fantasy this way actually... I can't remember the literary term it's on the tip of my tongue

But it's very common haha we definitely all do it with the mechanics of D&D alone haha

[hidden spindle]

Sounds ancient or fantastical

[unborn lotus]

You just have to not think about it too hard or else it falls apart

[hidden spindle]

There is no oxygen or hydrogen. Just water

[unborn lotus]

Really? Magic is your reason a peasant can light a fire 🤔 that's very different from the default handwaving of logic
Does randomness exist in your universe?
Does anything happen without intervention from an intelligent being? Like can lightning strike a tree and start a fire without a specific god or being decreeing it so?

[severe rampart]

yeah I guess thinking about it too hard would ruin it, what is water if not oxygen and hydrogen

[severe rampart]

if there's no oxygen, what are the characters breathing?

[unborn lotus]

Yeah these concepts exist in our world so the only to seperate them is to hand wave them.
It's basically imagine if an ancient understanding of the world were true, we know this cannot be true, but because we have cool human brains we can easily handwave the logic to get into that mindset

[dim wasp]

me as the baby of the group:guys haw do i cwaete a fwire ( please help)

[humble cairn]

Depends on your definition of "intelligent" since animism posits spiritual entities in just about everything, but not necessarily things you can talk to.

[unborn lotus]

Step one, open your mummy's medicine cabinet

[humble cairn]

Air

[dim wasp]

step 1:gather rocks*

[unborn lotus]

Ah animism, that's pretty cool, I think it's slightly different to what you described before but I get it

[dim wasp]

im the baby of the group not a baby( i need to be taught)

[severe rampart]

So... Nitrogen?

[unborn lotus]

I always base my fantasy worlds of ancient Mesopotamian religion. The Earth is a snowglobe

[hidden spindle]

"Don't think too hard about it." INT 11 --> INT 12

[dim wasp]

Protected & Nurtured: The group often looks out for you, offers advice, and ensures your well-being.
Playful Teasing: You're the target of lighthearted jokes about your age or perceived immaturity.
Scapegoat Potential: You might get blamed for things or have your ideas dismissed because you're the "baby".
Adapting to Milestones: You're often the last to hit major life events (first job, first serious relationship, first baby), requiring you to navigate changes in group dynamics.
@unborn lotus this is the baby

[unborn lotus]

I don't think you even need air - you can read some really cool ancient philosophy about what breathing is from different cultures. We didn't have an understanding that we were constantly surrounded by any kind stuff until really late in scientific development

[wild sequoia]

find two beggars and offer a gold piece to the one who can beat the other in a fist fight

[dim wasp]

jayn dont smite me please

[dim wasp]

so how do i create a fire again?

also how do u know which is firewood and which is logs

[unborn lotus]

Is this fire starting instructions for Shark?

[dim wasp]

u wish

[wild sequoia]

You can start a fire too to make it more entertaining

[dim wasp]

@unborn lotus this is all ur fault we got forgot to buy matches

aims a magic missile slightly above laterbots head in angy

[unborn lotus]

You live in the ocean you can't start a fire

[dim wasp]

u cant blame me

[dim wasp]

i am half elf half human

[unborn lotus]

You're literally a little blue fish guy

[dim wasp]

give me a break

[severe rampart]

Chaotic Neutral behavior

[dim wasp]

this is a baby water dragon

He is a baby

[unborn lotus]

Your name is Sharkymini

[wild sequoia]

That is so not neutral lmao

[dim wasp]

so what should i change to dracomini?

[unborn lotus]

Nah don't change or I'll forget who you are

[severe rampart]

Chaotic Evil would only offer a copper piece

[dim wasp]

beyond the point

[wild sequoia]

Chaotic evil does not specify it’s a fist fight

[dim wasp]

hmm ill try and think of a name

Hydralis?

[severe rampart]

I dont even think they offer money, "fight or else i'll kill you both" or something, I can never get how evil "Chaotic Evil" is

[dim wasp]

i swear my names suck

[unborn lotus]

For me all people are literally their pfp

[wild sequoia]

Chaotic evil is not just “lol kill people”

[dim wasp]

Alucard

[severe rampart]

I just usually look up baby names

[unborn lotus]

A vampire has to brush, ten time a day.

[dim wasp]

im trying think of a water mage name

[hidden spindle]

Shark pups

[severe rampart]

Hah, kid vampire, nice reference, also unfortunately unrelated to the topic

[wild sequoia]

Telling people to engage in illegal brawling when you know they really need the money is 100% evil lol

[dim wasp]

Kai could work

[unborn lotus]

Shark said Alucard

[severe rampart]

so check the etymology of water, or words related to water

[dim wasp]

Hylao

[wild sequoia]

Mere….

[spring light]

Squirt

[unborn lotus]

Or just look up watery words in Latin

[dim wasp]

Hylao

[severe rampart]

would be a funny name

[dim wasp]

ur insane

[dim wasp]

meray

[wild sequoia]

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[spring light]

Everyone calls the mage Squirt, because they're so short and use water magic.
It's not their real name, but no one cares.

[dim wasp]

Kravice

[severe rampart]

you could name them for bodies of water like "Nile" for The Nile River

[dim wasp]

if ya all called me squirt i would make a tsunami occur and wash ya all downstream

[unborn lotus]

Counterspell

[severe rampart]

or after water nymphs from those Greek Mythologies

[spring light]

Hydroxo

[wild sequoia]

The lair of Scylla….

[dim wasp]

chromatic orb

[wild sequoia]

This is our only way home….

[dim wasp]

lightning

[spring light]

Counterspell

[severe rampart]

Scylla would be good for a woman, also nice epic reference

[dim wasp]

grapple

[spring light]

Counterspell with my fist

[dim wasp]

@severe rampart covering fire please?

[severe rampart]

Cutting Words

[spring light]

Joe, the water mage

[severe rampart]

I reckon we have 1 second before a mod purges everything here if we dont get back on topic

[dim wasp]

meow

[severe rampart]

Right, well, I'm thinking of what spells I should get for more offensive power on my level 8 bard

[dim wasp]

im just thinking how funny it would be if a kraken came to @spring light and said oi mind if i have a crack at ya

[spring light]

Since I am the DM, that'd just be me talking to myself.

[dim wasp]

(why is there a kraken in the lake though)

[dim wasp]

sighs i have other methods

whistles

[dim wasp]

owl comes down and attacks u for being a pest

[spring light]

what are you even talking about

[eternal karma]

Lmao I thought this was a genuine thing and then noticed the spelling error

[hollow thicket]

cross-current tolls

[dim wasp]

ur annoying counterspells

[spring light]

oh, well you still have the spellslots

[dim wasp]

but u bully me

[spring light]

as the dm, that's sort of my job though.

[old sluice]

I am currently in hell. Help.

We found the true name of a devil. Turns out, it's a melody. One of the players, who has some musical training, played it on the piano to teach us how to sing it. Because the DM insists that we sing the melody correctly if we want to use the true name.
It's stuck to everyone's mind. We are constantly singing it. It's an earworm.

[fair summit]

Very devilish of the DM, respect 😏

[old sluice]

It's so bloody simple. Just ten notes, but it just stays in the mind.

[mellow ore]

hello guys! i was looking for some input from other DMs. i'm running a campaign and my next story bit involved a mimic town but i ran into something i don't have an answer to. when a mimic changes its shape into an object, possibly smaller than its true form, does it retain it's weight? or, since it's "polymorphing" into the new object, the 500lbs monstrosity now weighs whatever the new shape is supposed to weigh?

[spring light]

what do you need it to do?

[mellow ore]

i don't need it to act in any specific way, i just want to be accurate.

[spring light]

most mimics turn into an object of similar size to what they are

[verbal dagger]

i have a question, how would yall all classes by how fun they are?

[spring light]

however, if you're going with polymorph, then it's whatever size/weight of the transformed object

[mellow ore]

i'm just reading the stat block from dndbeyond. it states that the "shapechanger" ability has the subject Polymorph into any object.

RAW, any mimic could turn into a house.

[spring light]

if you're going with polymorph, or especially true polymorph, then it's whatever it turns into

but as the dm, if i need it to be suprisingly light or surprisingly heavy for whatever object it is, then i'd do that

[mellow ore]

i'm not trying to rule it in a specific way, im asking what would be the correct way to run it, as per the book. i know that i can bend it however, i'm curious about the actual functionality of the ability.

[hot gate]

A medium or small house would be downright cute

The mimic shape-shifts to resemble a Medium or Small object while retaining its game statistics

[mellow ore]

oh, what's the source of that?

[hot gate]

the mimic statblock

[mellow ore]

Shapechanger. The mimic can use its action to polymorph into an object or back into its true, amorphous form. Its statistics are the same in each form. Any equipment it is wearing or carrying isn't transformed. It reverts to its true form if it dies.

this is what i'm getting, where did you get that line?

[humble cairn]

There seems to be a word missing in this sentence because it doesn't make sense.

[hot gate]

Ah, what I quoted was the 2024 version of the mimic. You quoted the 2014 one.

[mellow ore]

ohhhh....

[hot gate]

Well with 2014 it's even easier, since it says it's statistics (being a medium creature) remain the same

[verbal dagger]

o, sry english isnt my first language, i meant to say how would yall rank all classes in dnd by how fun they are

[mellow ore]

i just noticed the legacy tag. my bad. i was reading the wrong thing. thank you

[serene jolt]

What do you guys think of Conjure Lightning?

[humble cairn]

Ahh, well I would rank Bard and Monk at the top and Cleric at the bottom, but that is purely personal.

[serene jolt]

I was trying to decide on a fun 3rd level spell to put on my Druid and that spell looks good on paper but I don't know how well it functions in play.

[hot marlin]

You mean call lightning, the spell, right?

[serene jolt]

Right that, sorry!

[verbal dagger]

okay, would u recommend bard for a beginner?

[hot marlin]

Well it's a good spell but like a lot of druid spells it's really situational.

[humble cairn]

Oh, no I wouldn't, it's a full caster. I would recommend something simpler.

[mellow ore]

ok but i think my question remains. it now reads it "resembles a medium or small object while retaining its game statistics" is its weight in its statistic? if i chose to make the mimic "resemble" a broom, is it a 400lb broom?

[verbal dagger]

well i wanna cast spells so what would u recommend for a beginner?

also whats a full caster?

[hot gate]

Since weight isn't part of its statistics, you get to make that part up. I always ran it as the mimic weighting about the right amount for the object it turned into.

[humble cairn]

Generally a class that gets access to the most spells and the most powerful spells.

[serene jolt]

We are outside 80% of the time in a desert. So I didn't think it was a bad spell to take. I already have all the spells I want to use.

As long as it's actually good and fun in practice, anyways.

[verbal dagger]

and why is that a bad thing for a beginner? are some of the spells complicated?

[hot marlin]

You would really only use it in situations where you are drastically outnumbered. And it takes an action to reuse. It requires those enemies who drastically outnumber you to be, like, pretty far away from you.

Honestly I can't imagine a situation where you can use Call Lightning to all of its strength

[spring light]

any class that looks fun is good for a beginner, none of them are too complicated to understand.

[humble cairn]

Maybe something like an Eldritch Knight, a Fighter who gets access to spells a level 3 onward. But with a limited list and few spell slots.

[serene jolt]

Ohh I see. That does sound pretty situational.

Is there another 1st-3rd level spell you'd recommend? I can name out my prepared spells if needed.

[humble cairn]

The choice of spells for a full caster is one of the more complex balancing decisions one has to make in the game.

[spring light]

the classes in 5e are pretty simple, honestly.

[hot marlin]

For druid, right?

[jaunty wyvern]

Eldritch Knight or Arcane Trickster are both decent all rounders that lay out most mechanics in an easy to understand way. I’m personally biased toward eldritch knight

[potent vector]

Warlock, you get lots of customization, only need to plan for 2 spells per short rest until late game, and still get the benefit of higher level spells later on.

[serene jolt]

Yes, Moon 2024

[potent vector]

Knight and Trickster are also great btw ye

[humble cairn]

But within that there are more and less complex classes, and I think simpler is easier for a beginner.

[spring light]

I mean... they all seem very approachable.

[jaunty wyvern]

Beginners should play illrigger as their first class

[hot marlin]

Well, first off: Dispel Magic. You need someone in your party with it.
Revivify. Also needed.
Sleet Storm is probably the best damage spell at this level for druid

[spring light]

It's not like we're talking 3/3.5 mechanics here.

[potent vector]

It's prob rly good utility if you need to damage a very big plot device, like a machine/building that's important

[tawdry sentinel]

Spell selection and choice paralysis is the only problem really.

And I guess knowing when to use resources and when to use cantrips.

[spring light]

A good table and dm will help with that.

[jaunty wyvern]

Thats why i dont recommend bard to beginners because magical secrets can stun lock certain people lol

[hot marlin]

Sadly it only deals damage to creatures, not objects.

[spring light]

if you're playing with an awful table, it doesn't matter what class you are, it's likely to be an unfun time

[humble cairn]

Oh absolutely, the analysis paralysis can be a lot.

[humble cairn]

I know how Bards work and even I was burning my brain when I was trying to make a 10th level Bard for a one shot.

[spring light]

heck, a good table and dm will even let you try out other classes if one's not turning out to be very fun for you

[jaunty wyvern]

Actually has anyone here actually played any Illrigger? My eyes glazed over while reading it

Been wanting to try it though

[potent vector]

Oof, yeah, that's rly annoying. At least fireball sets stuff on fire 😭

[tawdry sentinel]

It's very easy to think you want to kill things and just choose 9 spells that kill things. I see that often.

Then you work out that 2 of them are the best and have 7 spells you literally never use.

[humble cairn]

Sure, but let's not minimize other people's experiences. Maybe you're just a gaming genius.

[spring light]

Okay, but trying to tell people "oh, don't start with X class" might also not be great advice?

[serene jolt]

Thank you for the suggestions! I think our sorcerer has dispel but I'll ask. If not, I'll do sleet. I have revivify.

[jaunty wyvern]

I used to think competitive Pokémon was the easiest thing in the world until I tried to explain it to someone that’s only ever played one game lol. Perspective bias is one hell of a drug

[dim wasp]

ophidi whats ur favorite class
is it fighter

[hot marlin]

Now the advantage of call lightning is that since it lasts a minute, it's ten times 4d10 damage under stormy weather. So, 40d10 for a single spell slot. And to everything five feet around the point of impact, potentially nine medium creatures but... Again, in ten turns, things have time to move. And what fight lasts ten turn?
One possibility I am seeing is during a siege. Get yourself on a tower during a storm, that single spell slot will do respectable damage to the enemy army.

[jaunty wyvern]

The real wizard fantasy

[hoary totem]

Speaking of Pokemon... Tabaxi aberrant sorc as Mewtwo, anyone?

[hoary totem]

Counterpoint: Fireball

[jaunty wyvern]

I have yet to find a character I can’t make with officially supported material

[humble cairn]

I still think it's a generally good idea to try and help beginners by having them try the simpler classes.

[humble cairn]

Tossup between Bard and Monk.

[hot marlin]

So yeah, if you're like defending a castle from an invading army, that's one minute where a single third level slot might actually do more damage to the enemy army than any other third level spell slot

[spring light]

I think helping beginners get comfortable with whatever class appeals to them most is one of the best ways to get them into the hobby

[dim wasp]

i thought hextra attack be fighter ngl

[jaunty wyvern]

Hextra attack is hexblade me thinks

[humble cairn]

Yes, but also leaning them toward the simpler options so as not to overwhelm with the more fiddly ones is also showing consideration.

[hoary totem]

Incineroar 💀 High charisma for sure, Intimidate is carrying

[humble cairn]

Valor Bards, Eldritch Knights, and Bladesinger Wizards all have Hextra attack.

[humble cairn]

Note that I'm not one for disallowing beginners from playing anything they want, just that I tend to encourage them to try the simpler options.

[delicate owl]

Why is that? Jw.

[hidden spindle]

Eldritch Knight's is a different than the others' Extra Attack

[humble cairn]

First level they have access to three entire new spell lists.

[spring light]

I try to encourage my new players to look at the classes and see what vibes they like the most, and then work with them to understand that class

[delicate owl]

Yeah but you can only have 2 spells from other spell lists at that level, max.

[humble cairn]

And making a 10th level character for a one shot is a lot of spell choices and sequential spell choices all at once.

[jaunty wyvern]

Magical secrets if you’re running only core rules material is manageable but I’ve never played at a table that didn’t have at least 3 other mods involved

[dim wasp]

btw do rangers have like a climbing hook of some sort they can use for mobility?

like a harpoon or something?

[jaunty wyvern]

There is a grappling hook iirc

[humble cairn]

The answers lie in the book.

[jaunty wyvern]

I don’t know its rules off the top of my head

[dim wasp]

when i asked about grappling hooks before half the people got confused

[tawdry sentinel]

There is a grappling hook in adventuring gear, rangers get climbing speed at level ?6?

[dim wasp]

so i was like let me avoid grapple this time

[hidden spindle]

Anyone can use a Grappling Hook. Just make sure to tie a rope to it...

[jaunty wyvern]

I have no idea if its listed in the core rules but i’d recommend looking on aidded or something if its been mentioned in a phb/dmg

[humble cairn]

Here is an entry in the Equipment section, it's a piece of equipment available to any character who can buy or find it in game, not just Rangers: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#GrapplingHook2GP

[dim wasp]

now that u mention it though it doesnt seem like a half bad idea in combat lol

[pliant sapphire]

At lvl 6 they have climb speed. So they dont need any equipment to climb

[humble cairn]

Keep reading the book, most of your questions are answered in there: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

[dim wasp]

righto

[hidden spindle]

You can't climb everything. Gear is still useful in case of sheer walls or slippery surfaces or strange holds.

[dim wasp]

headbutts ophi ophi i have a headache

maybe zoltraark will make the headache go away

[tawdry sentinel]

I'm not sure if a climb speed does anything other than make you climb faster, so going up a 30ft wall you can do with just a move rather than a dash or making two checks

I could be wrong.

[hidden spindle]

Eldritch Knight's War Magic works with the others' Extra Attack

[humble cairn]

EK Extra Attack works very much like Valor Bard and Bladesinger in 2024. Except that they eventually get 4 attacks.

[dim wasp]

is there a thing like an arm crossbow?

also would that count as ur bonus action or what

[tawdry sentinel]

Bracer of flying daggers shoots two daggers out of your wrist.

[humble cairn]

The weapons are very flexible in how you describe them. A tonfa, a baseball bat, and nunchaku would all use the club stats.

[dim wasp]

interesting

[humble cairn]

There are crossbows, and you can describe a hand crossbow as being strapped to your arm, I suppose. It would work the same mechanically no change from a regular crossbow.

[humble cairn]

Technically thrown dagger attacks, but you could describe them as shooting out, yes.

[dim wasp]

whats a hand crossbow?

[tawdry sentinel]

Like a pistol but a crossbow

[dim wasp]

are u saying i strap it to my arm

[dim wasp]

yikes i feel safer with arrows

[humble cairn]

A weapon from this list of the weapons in the game: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Weapons

[dim wasp]

yk what i've always thought would be cool

sorcerer with a crossbow but thats probably because im obsessed with magic

[hidden spindle]

I meant, since EK's War Magic, grabbing either two's Extra Attack would allow casting two Cantrips

[stoic haven]

What about Gaderffii stick

[humble cairn]

I don't know what that is.

[stoic haven]

I'm joking, its the Tusken stick from Star Wars

[dim wasp]

what off hand options are there for mages apart from arm crossbows and daggers ?
ik theres like orbs but eh

[hidden spindle]

There's Armblade but it's for Warforged

[humble cairn]

"Mage" isn't a class. What class are you talking about?

[dim wasp]

sorcerer
if i say mage u can just assume im referring to spellcasters in general so like wiz,druid,sorc

[humble cairn]

Sorcerers can use all Simple weapons. Orb is not a weapon. Here are the weapons, look at the Simple Weapon section: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Weapons

[humble cairn]

But those are all different classes and you can't just ask the same question about all of them at the same time because the answer could be different so if you're asking a mechanical question, use the actual class names.

[dim wasp]

so what godamn weapon am i meant to use

im not an archer or a warrior and all those look like melee or ranged options not magic options

[humble cairn]

Sorcerers are not good at using weapons. Generally Sorcerers will rely on Cantrips in combat, which are repeatable spells.

[stoic haven]

mostly spells and cantrips

[humble cairn]

Also, could you maybe not swear at me?

[dim wasp]

right sorry about the swearing was not meant to be towards u

[dim wasp]

if i swear unless it has a pronoun infront of it its probably not directed at u for future

[humble cairn]

I'm going to regard anything that is pinged at me to be directed at me.

[dim wasp]

hmm i see

[spring light]

you want to use a weapon with your sorcerer?

[dim wasp]

i was thinking of an arm crossbow but like eh

[humble cairn]

Sharky doesn't know how the classes work.

[civic palm]

An arm crossbow could be a reflavored light crossbow, but you’d need proficiency with that weapon to use it.

[spring light]

May I ask why you want such a weapon on your sorcerer? is your casting being stopped frequently?

[dim wasp]

just a backup

a dagger seems a bit generic so for emergencies

[humble cairn]

There's a lot of details, like what proficiency even is, that a beginner needs to know before they can understand recommendations given. Maybe start over at #dnd-newcomers

[civic palm]

“I’m silenced? Oh well.” shoots crossbow.

[spring light]

a dagger might be generic, but it's easy enough to use on most builds

[tawdry sentinel]

There's no offhand, that's a Baldur's gate thing.

You can use a light crossbow.

[spring light]

could talk to your dm if you want your dagger to be reflavored to look cooler

[humble cairn]

Daggers are great. They are small and easily hidden, melee but can be thrown. Innocuous in most communities.

[spring light]

expected in most communities, even

[exotic pecan]

[dim wasp]

if i wanted to pull a funny i could just carry some dwarven bombs with me

[civic palm]

If you don’t have a dagger you’re immediately arrested for public indecency in some areas.

[dim wasp]

ive heard those things pack a punch

[spring light]

how many games have you played so far?

[dim wasp]

none

[spring light]

ah okay

[dim wasp]

knive dagger shield pepper spray

[storm magnet]

What's more innocuous: A dagger or a buckler?

[dim wasp]

former

im just thinking imagine if my character carried a scythe at the hip

[civic palm]

Everyone makes fun of using a shield as a weapon until you get your nose caved in.

[storm magnet]

But a buckler is so small

[tawdry sentinel]

You can use a sickle yes

[spring light]

man, i love bucklers.

[storm magnet]

How is it less innocuous?

[uncut zenith]

D&D doesn’t distinguish between a buckler and a kite shield

A shield is a shield

[dim wasp]

imagine my character just has a sword at the hip

[civic palm]

Math is math.

[storm magnet]

A lie will remain a lie!

[tawdry sentinel]

Swords are martial weapons and you are bad at using them as a sorcerer.

[civic palm]

Sorcerers don’t typically have martial weapon proficiency. While you could use a long sword (thank you true strike rework), you’d need to obtain the proficiency first. This can happen over downtime between sessions, provided the DM allows it and you have the requisite gold.

[tawdry sentinel]

Having a big stick and clubbing people with it is pretty valid though.

[storm magnet]

Can rust monsters eat poison covered metal?

[umbral girder]

Yep

[civic palm]

Depends if they have immunity to poison.

[dim wasp]

is it possible to turn an arm crossbow into a proper one?

[humble cairn]

Not if you're using official downtime rules. Those only allow tool and language proficiency training.

[civic palm]

What is a sword but a tool for murder?

[dim wasp]

like mid combat

[umbral girder]

Notably the rust isn’t from them biting it. It’s from their antenna rusting it first.

[dim wasp]

shelf defense

[umbral girder]

They eat it after it’s fallen into pieces.

[exotic pecan]

My DM joked about putting our campaign against a tarrasque for our first session 🫠

[storm magnet]

Can anything be done to a metal tool to make it fatal to a rust monster via consumption?

[humble cairn]

"Arm Crossbow" isn't an official weapon, generally if you want a weapon you would describe it, then use the official weapon rules for it. https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#Weapons

[civic palm]

You can beat a Tarrasque at level one. Don’t let things like “statistics” get in the way of your dream.

[hidden spindle]

Light Crossbow Armblade

[humble cairn]

So the first question is what do you even mean by "arm crossbow?"

[dim wasp]

something strapped to ur arm loaded and ready to fire

[humble cairn]

So like a regular crossbow, but strapped to your arm?

[exotic pecan]

@open laurel You hear that?

[civic palm]

Probably a hand crossbow then, as I said.

[dim wasp]

this gives me an idea

[humble cairn]

So it's already a proper crossbow, mechanically. What are you asking for?

[open laurel]

Yessssssss 😂 Thats what I told you 😋

[civic palm]

It just needs to roll all ones while you roll all twenties, easy.

[dim wasp]

can the damage be increased if its used more precisely i.e destrap into shot

also im just thinking dual wielding hand crossbows lmao

[humble cairn]

No, unless you have a class ability and you want to use this description for the ability.

[exotic pecan]

I don't think our level 3 party can successfully fight a godzilla dupe that's resistant to EVERY TYPE OF DAMAGE 😭

[open laurel]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh... TPK! 😂

[still plover]

Sure, if you roll a 20 on the d20 for the attack, you do a critical hit for extra damage.

[civic palm]

Have you tried?

[exotic pecan]

...Good point

[tawdry sentinel]

2014 you can solo it if you have a fly speed. It may take several hours but dare to dream.

[civic palm]

All you gotta do? Get a portable hole, have an artificer friend, and send in a familiar.

[open laurel]

Don't worry, I won't throw that at you for a long time, if ever

[exotic pecan]

Thank GOD

[still plover]

The question is what is it going to do during those several hours to the world around it...

[exotic pecan]

I'm fine with finding the Gelatinous Cube though LOL

[civic palm]

Is it metagaming if a character knows that red dragons resist fire?

Like, technically yes, but it’s a dragon. There’s bound to be stories.

[sharp heron]

roll a history check

[tawdry sentinel]

Stand there and take it. Not like the titanic god weapon has anything better to do.

[warped summit]

How do i create a looking for a dm post on that channel

[open laurel]

The jello cake is gonna devour you 😋

[exotic pecan]

I mean, if the character is knowledgeable on myths, legends and tales, I wouldn't say so

[still plover]

I'd say stories about dragons were common knowledge, myself.

[exotic pecan]

But if you have a character with like -2 int, I'd disagree

[still plover]

Type

/looking

in this channel, pick the popup for DM, fill in the form and away you go. Remember to include your regular availability and timezone. This is your chance to sell yourself as a player so make the most of it. You only get one post a week, but it doesn't go until you send the form. Good luck!

[civic palm]

Basically how much of what they know is rumors and hearsay?

[empty thicket]

yeah, would be mostly common folklore for the people, more if the dragon is in a higher rank or did feats in the world

[warped summit]

thank you

[fair summit]

Like, yeah just going "Obviously red dragons resist fire, I know the stat block!" is obvious metagaming
"Hey DM, would my character know if red dragons resist fire?" would be in character

But also at the same time as a DM, I don't expect my players to intentionally do things they obviously know suboptimal, like attacking a well known fire dragon with fire just for the sake of avoiding metagaming at all costs

[still plover]

Red dragon, fire breathing, revels in destruction, probably not fussed about more fire. Doesn't sound like a leap to me.

[civic palm]

“Yeah, everyone knows that Dragons are resistant to fire,” says the local peasant, blissfully unaware of the different types of dragons.

[sharp heron]

theres tales of people killing dragons with a dagger too, its hard to know whats truth and whats myth, this is the land of 20 charisma bards!!!!

[empty thicket]

"oh look, the demons in hell are fire resistant" its something i found out in last session.
Will see if the demon is resistant to a sword in the middle of the chest

[still plover]

"White dragon? They're made of pure cold, no mortal flame could touch them."

[civic palm]

Personally I’m of the opinion that if the fire doesn’t work, either 1. You aren’t using enough, or 2. It’s not hot enough.

[jaunty wyvern]

Sorcerer coded

[snow zephyr]

Or it's not the right type of fire

[jaunty wyvern]

Twin spell fireball and you might as well have bypassed its resistance

[sharp heron]

ive used firebolt agaisnt a magma elemental and i felt so dumb, he healed like 80 hp

[fair summit]

"I didn't ask if the enemy is immune to fire and if my team is in a small room with me, I said I cast fireball!"

[civic palm]

What type of damage does the sun do?

[still plover]

All of it.

[jaunty wyvern]

One sun coming up

[snow zephyr]

Getting the image of an arms dealer in Waterdeep handing out abyssal flame grenades

[still plover]

Wait, I lied, except for cold.

Obviously.

[civic palm]

You know how cold can burn?

[snow zephyr]

Black dragons have to be my favorite by far

[jaunty wyvern]

Since wildspace isn’t cold that’d be the only one right?

[halcyon forum]

according to spelljammer, only radiant

[mortal tinsel]

it's only superficial damage though... but it can be really irritating for the next few days

[fair summit]

Oh man, imagine launching brown mold into the sun somehow

[jaunty wyvern]

Selune didn’t die for this

[snow zephyr]

Does brown mold grow off radiant?

[civic palm]

That’s hilarious. Radia(tion)nt.

[serene jolt]

Sleet Storm isn't a damage spell. I just checked. Did you mean another spell? Sleet Storm does no damage but if you fail a save, you fall prone and lose concentration.

[halcyon forum]

solar dragons make their lairs inside stars and they can do that because they are immune to radiant damage

[still plover]

True, but I feel more confident with the rest. Thunder? Solar wind. Necrotic? Lower band radiation. Psychic? The sun is an eldritch entity, constantly screaming.

[oak grotto]

What about acid?

[civic palm]

Being on the sun melts you. What can that be if not acid, huh?

[still plover]

Probably more radiation. Despite my interest I am not a scientist, I just play one on TV.

[jaunty wyvern]

Poison is also radiation of course of course

Fire is also radiation

Everything is radiation if you think about it

[civic palm]

Even thinking. Especially thinking.

[sharp heron]

psychic damage is radiation

[empty thicket]

Changing a Dark star with metamagic to A literally Star would be epic

[snow zephyr]

There's a lot of different types of radiation and most of them aren't ionizing

[jaunty wyvern]

Those are the unfun ones

[empty thicket]

Sunburst? F$@%& that, im throwing you the whole sun!!

[civic palm]

How ionic.

[jaunty wyvern]

Down the man! Ionize or whatever they say

[still plover]

Ahaha!

[pure nymph]

Hello

[civic palm]

2024 Solars getting PWK for free wasn’t on my to-do list.

[jaunty wyvern]

Pardon

[civic palm]

Bow of Extermination.

[marble lion]

Its ok theyre good

[civic palm]

Gotta love my Lawful Good genocide angles. Easily my favorite gender.

[spring light]

angles?

[civic palm]

What? I’m right, aren’t I?

No need to be so obtuse.

[spring light]

not angel, but angle?

[still plover]

Howdy. Don't mind us, we're just doing our little solar cult. What's on your mind today?

[spring light]

i also like my angles having genders

[halcyon forum]

you gotta check your angles

[civic palm]

As an Italian would say, they are acute.

[jaunty wyvern]

Guys when we said that more creatures need ranged attacks this is not what we meant

[civic palm]

What? You don’t like that if you grant your players a base iron flask, there’s a 1% chance they can just destroy your BBEG?

[jaunty wyvern]

Eh optimizers can do that with two bags of holding

Something they are much more likely to have

[civic palm]

Cast Gate Seal.

[jaunty wyvern]

The tarrasque has 3 int it can’t even say the words gate seal

[azure jasper]

If more than 1 party member casts conjure minor elemental with the 2024 rules, does the damage bonus stack?

[halcyon forum]

a tarrasque really shouldnt be the BBEG

[jaunty wyvern]

Would get totally bodied by an intellect devourer btw what a fraud

[halcyon forum]

maybe their pet

[spring light]

i had a tarrasque as 1/2 of my bbeg at the end of my level 20 campaign. and yeah, it was techncially the "pet" but it was definitely the more immediately dangerous threat

[azure jasper]

if you fly can't it just not reach you too?

[halcyon forum]

it can throw rocks at you I guess

[serene jolt]

No one can get affected by the same spell on the same turn. But if it happens throughout different turns, then yes.

[halcyon forum]

or buildings

[empty thicket]

True, but the tarrasque ate 20 sorcerers and wizards, now his whole system is fueled up by magic and now the tarrasque is wild magic.
Can cast absorb elements and when reached the limit of absorbing it do a burst around him depending of the elements absorbed.
But after it he is exposed to any kind of attack

[civic palm]

“Any attack that you make within the emanation”.

[serene jolt]

I assume so anyways

[spring light]

tarrasques can definitely jump. . .

[civic palm]

I’m unsure if that buffs party members.

[serene jolt]

you make

[spring light]

i wouldn't want a tarrasque to jump on me, even if it can't fly per-se

[halcyon forum]

CME only works on the attacks from the caster

[civic palm]

Yeah, so even if multiple people cast it, it’s a moot point.

[serene jolt]

Whichever caster casts it gets the bonus. So if multiple people cast it, those people get the bonus. Yeah.

[civic palm]

Shouldn’t the tarrasque take bludgeoning damage while it walks? 10 ft and you eat concrete, and it can step higher than ten.

[azure jasper]

oh that makes sense
I was thinking the whole party gets the bonus but looking back at the spell it is only the caster
Thank you!

[civic palm]

Tarrasque has to power walk everywhere to not get rocks in its soles.

[serene jolt]

Now if it was something like Longstrider for example. And you cast it on someone and then they cast it on themselves, it will not stack. As well as any AOE effects do not stack on the same turn.

Because spell effects do not stack unless stated otherwise.

[halcyon forum]

you arent falling with one foot on the ground

[snow zephyr]

What in the monster hunter?

[civic palm]

You mean I can’t juice up my monk with a line of wizards casting longstrider so I break the speed of light?

[empty thicket]

just made it up, i find it epic and funny

[snow zephyr]

Ah

[civic palm]

So striding is fine, but if it hops in place its ankles shatter. There goes its MBA plans…

[empty thicket]

The idea of a tarrasque being wild magic for some reason, call it experiments, eating something or just growing up absorbing magic in some way that force him to release it in wild surges would be epic for me

[snow zephyr]

Does the 2024 terrasque have the ability to receive the fly spell?

[halcyon forum]

I mean the tarrasque would take bludgeoning damage if it jumped more than 10 ft striaght up, yes

[halcyon forum]

every willing creature can

[snow zephyr]

using a terrasque to siege a floating city

[civic palm]

Can it be willing?

[halcyon forum]

now thats a terrifying thought

[halcyon forum]

sure

[hot marlin]

My apologies, I confused sleet storm and ice storm.

[empty thicket]

Making a tarrasque being the BBEG but being a Mahoraga kind of tarrasque.
Not even the gods would try with it

[civic palm]

Tarroraga! Help me!

[empty thicket]

Or not the BBEG but being the principal antagonist of a "season" in that adventure

[snow zephyr]

See, I think it would be really funny if every time you hit it with priest spells that caused it to get bigger

[halcyon forum]

after reading about the elder brain dragon, I thought about the Elder Brain Tarrasque, now THATS a BBEG

[civic palm]

A mindflayer librarian at a library named “Food for thought”.

[serene jolt]

Oh alright I'll keep looking at the spells and see if there's anything else that fits.

Summon Fey maybe?

[half talon]

I think moon beam is available to druid if you don't have that yet

[covert atlas]

i just made a Harengon Monk and im loving it i named him Tōzen.

[wanton sorrel]

cool!

[serene jolt]

Moon Druid automatically gets that in 2024. So I have it.

[half talon]

Ah ok, I honestly need to look into druid more

[serene jolt]

I may just snatch dispel magic anyways. We'll have two people with that. 🤷

[outer wraith]

boo

[keen kestrel]

Harengon monks are legit so fun, they get to bounce around and punch things

[halcyon forum]

the Harengon Monk I played once was a Zen-Archer Kensei. very fun

[jaunty wyvern]

I must once again bring to your attention the d10000 wild magic surge table for your viewing pleasure

[empty thicket]

No.

[jaunty wyvern]

Its funny i promise

[empty thicket]

i have enough with a D100 in wild magic sorc and would modify it for the tarrasque in some ways.

[empty thicket]

ugh....okey, where i can find it?

[jaunty wyvern]

https://centralia.aquest.com/downloads/NLRMEv2.pdf

Its not made specifically for wild magic sorc but it definitely can be used for anything random and magical in nature

[empty thicket]

Nope. Im not clicking a download, i like to live.

nvm, is safe, okey, lets see

its... an effect per dice...omfg im using a fireball in my feets

[jaunty wyvern]

You can just look up d10000 wild magic table

If you dont trust my cute widdle winks

Its not a zip bomb i pinky promise

[empty thicket]

im doing it, its.... a long text

[crimson gulch]

ten thousand? thats to many

[empty thicket]

What in cannelloni name is "the stars are right"?
Its the final dice

"THE PLANET NO LONGER ROTATES"!?

[wanton sorrel]

?

[empty thicket]

" Someone nearby is stung by 1d1000 bees"

[empty thicket]

Reading a fanmade "chaos" thing that is a D10.000 with every number being an effect.
From the sorcerer getting his fingers turned into stone to literally stop the F~$%@* planet rotating

[wanton sorrel]

oh...

[empty thicket]

"8828 An exact copy of the moon appears 180° away from the original one" bro what....

[woven flint]

My Warlock had a Chess Match with good Ol'
Strahd Von Zorovich last night
He won best 3 outta 5, surprisingly because it was an INTELLIGENCE check contest and my Warlock has 10 Intelligence while Strahd has 20 lol
We rationalized the rolls as Strahd letting him win lol

[empty thicket]

whoever made this had too much free time and im saying it in a concerning way

"6369 Target loses 1d4 levels/hit dice".....

[still plover]

That's what happens when you use a d20. Congratulations, though!

[woven flint]

If we were actually playing Chess, the party would've been real screwed

I've only played Chess twice

[potent vector]

"4892 Some common non-magical species is forever invisible to target"

[hybrid blade]

helloooooo

[wanton sorrel]

yo

[woven flint]

Oh, hey, it's my Lawyer

[wanton sorrel]

?

[hybrid blade]

i have genuinely never even touched a d20 or anything dnd related and for my first ever time im going to be the DM.

Im also playing with people that have never touched the game

[woven flint]

Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad lol

[wanton sorrel]

oh

[hybrid blade]

is this worth it or even possible?

[woven flint]

Yeah, just be sure to read the rules n stuff lol

[empty thicket]

"1120 Caster is covered in ketchup"
To
"9924 The planet now rotates twice as fast "

[woven flint]

Imagine fighting Mindflayers and getting covered in Ketchup

"Seems our meal has already prepared themselves."

[empty thicket]

na, the whole thing is an example of someone with too much free time and creativity

[harsh hinge]

Absolutely! Substitute something else: "My friends and I have never touched a bat or ball and we want to try baseball. Is it even worthwhile or possible?"

Hopefully you'll see that the answer is yes. You'll probably get things wrong—the game doesn't have the lowest bar for entry. But if you all had fun, you did something right. And you can adjust how you play as you learn the game more fully.

[empty thicket]

At least 5 years writting everything or 6 months going through reddit asking

[woven flint]

No such thing as too much creativity

[hybrid blade]

Ok thank you for the much needed help

[hard thistle]

Does anyone know some good spells that would work for a psionic theme? I've got the obvious ones, Dissonant Whispers, Mage Hand, Message, etc.

[woven flint]

Synaptic Static, but that's a 5th level spell

[empty thicket]

Yes it is. Literally the scale go to "oh look, im covered in honey" to "I JUST STOPPED THE WORLD AND COPIED THE MOON!!"

[woven flint]

No there isn't.

Creativity is a blessing, one cannot have enough of it

[woven flint]

Shield, flavor it as Telekinetically protecting your body

[hard thistle]

I was thinking of also using Gift of the Gem Dragon. 🙂 My table's pretty light on restrictions, so I'm using a whole bunch of my books.

[empty thicket]

True, but there is limits of how much burger, onion rings and fries you can handle.

would be funny for a campaign around idk, some chaos entity that is doing things in the world and the party must find a way to stop it? yes. totally

Some sort of "the embodiment of chaos is having fun with the world, you all must get stronger and find a way to stop it"

[eager ice]

Hi

Where to find a party to play

[raw sonnet]

Can I post a link to my homebrew on Homebrewery? is it allowed?

[minor cargo]

Welcome! There's lots of ways to find a party, but one here is with #find-a-game . Check out that channel and read the instructions. Good luck! ⚔️

[minor cargo]

Yup, they're allowed! Just make sure to give people context when you post the link so they know what they're clicking into.

[idle oar]

Also use #homebrew for homebrew-related topics and discussions

[woven flint]

It's quiet..
Are we planning a heist?
A..
Dragonheist?

[dark basin]

Stealing a dragon is hard. How did they even get it to fit through the door? Maybe if we unscrew the wings and rotate it, it could fit.

[buoyant oar]

Could be like Themburchad was born in a lair. Grew into it and then somehow escaped. So he could star in cinema

[sleek cloud]

Can’t decided on an Australian, spanish, or vaguely British accent for my fox swashbuckler rogue (Tabaxi reskin)

[mortal tinsel]

make them as confused as you are about it and just sprinkle each in during different scarios... spanish when speaking about food, british when in social situations and australian when in a fight

why wouldn't a rogue adjust their accent to their environment

[stark tundra]

Go Austrian

[sleek cloud]

Well for one, even though rogues get reliable talent, I, the player do not, and would have a rough go in balancing the 3 in one character lol

[drowsy flint]

Where would I post an encounter and ask for feedback on it?

[harsh hinge]

#dm-discussion

[mortal tinsel]

#homebrew or #dm-discussion

[woven flint]

Dragons is what they call the currency in Waterdeep, I believe 😭

[dark basin]

I was joking.

[woven flint]

I know smh
It just wasn't funny /silly

The simple solution is to Polymorph the Dragon, Duhhh!

Or try to fit it in a bag of holding..
But good luck with even attempting

Actually, Polymorphing is a sensible answer 😭

[woven flint]

Go silly, speak goofy

[wanton sorrel]

hmmmm hitpoints is it 1d8? + con modifyer?

[sharp heron]

depends on class

[wanton sorrel]

thief

[jaunty wyvern]

Like thief rogue?

[wanton sorrel]

yeah

[jaunty wyvern]

Yea its a d8

Most dms run it as you roll your hit die, take half or better and add your con mod

Or at least in my experience

[wanton sorrel]

ok

[sleek cloud]

Well gorsh

[still plover]

On a level up. For the first level, it's always the maximum of the Hit Die for that class, plus Constitution modifier.

[hybrid blade]

is dragons of the stormwreck isle good as a first time ever dnd

im also the DM of my "group"

[still plover]

Sure I've heard it mentioned, but I don't know about prewritten adventures. Sit tight, someone will know better.

[harsh hinge]

Yep, it's made for new players and DMs alike.

[hybrid blade]

any other suggestions?

[harsh hinge]

Heroes of the Borderlands.

[inner silo]

Nice to be here
I wonder if there is anyone who needs developer's hand for super cool project
If you are looking for developer, feel free to contact me

[opal wharf]

Dnd?

[still plover]

What are you offering?

[inner silo]

im blockchain and ai engineer

[still plover]

Not sure that really fits in around here, but maybe try #dnd-advertisements.

[wanton sorrel]

ok

[timid current]

Block chain and ai? I think you maaaay have gone to the wrong server- this is a server for dungeons and dragons, a creative, collaborative game

Also ai is expressly not allowed on the server for a bunch of really good reasons

[sleek cloud]

Groups starting an all rogue campaign this weekend at level 1, how cooked are we

[timid current]

Larian might be hiring tho if that's where you thought you were

[visual citrus]

What would you say are some of the strongest warlock subclasses, including the extra third party content on DnD beyond?

[sleek cloud]

Strong in what ways

[visual citrus]

Damage/control

[prisma mason]

So a destroyer of creativity and the environment very cool

[naive cedar]

I think you’re a little lost m8

[prisma mason]

Also do ppl still fall for nfts?! I thought that died out already

[north hawk]

There's nothing wrong with AI. Don't need to be mean.

[naive cedar]

I’m pretty sure NFTs specifically are dead but people still fall for crypto schemes as recently as earlier this year if the Hawk Tuah girl is any indication

That might’ve been last year actually

[prisma mason]

Except it's used to make heinous and sometimes illegal content, ruins the environment and is actively ruining creativity and communities

[timid current]

Nobody is being mean about ai. Simply stating that it's not necessarily a fit for this server, where it is not allowed.

[naive cedar]

Wait we’re getting off topic…which warlock patron is most likely to be a crypto bro

[timid current]

D&D is a creative and collaborative hobby, llm/Gen AI is anticreative and functions on theft and misattribution of effort

[north hawk]

There a lot of great use cases outside of what you mentioned for it.

[naive cedar]

Yeah but DND isn’t one of them

[timid current]

None of those case uses have to do with d&d

[prisma mason]

Not rlly at all except for making lazy slop

[proven mountain]

All AI in D&D provides is bad art made with stolen assets and poorly written summaries of the rules that are generally incorrect

[timid current]

Blockchain similarly doesn't really have overlap with d&d. While it is not banned like genai/llm use is, it is very off topic

[prisma mason]

And also historically a scam

[naive cedar]

Google AI will give you different answers depending on the time of day

[north hawk]

That's a very narrow way of looking at it. Obviously great use cases in IT, and other fields, but in DnD it's great for generating creative prompts. Not unsimilar to rolling on a D100 table for ideas when you're creating content.

[timid current]

So like I said, if you're looking to peddle ai stuff I believe larian has their own server to solicit for work on there

[prisma mason]

Theirs nothing creative about a machine taking things from other media do it yourself

And it also doesn't ruin the planet with a d100

[sleek cloud]

I’d probably pick fiend for damage, great old one for control, third party has future you patron for a bit of both

[timid current]

Anyway nobody was being mean

[naive cedar]

thoughts on archfey?

[north hawk]

I guess we will just disagree. That's probably the best way to end this conversation. I don't see anything productive coming from it.

[sleek cloud]

Archfey is good for movement purposes

[timid current]

Simply stating that it isn't allowed in the server.

[naive cedar]

I like archfey the most for VibesTM

[timid current]

It also has impeccable vibes

[sleek cloud]

Any Feywild themed subclass is just on vibes

Same reason I like fey wanderer

[prisma mason]

That's cool and all just know your AI garbage ain't welcome and know you support making unimaginative garbage that pollutes and ruins communities that have ai facilities

[naive cedar]

Fey in general are just 🧑‍🍳

[prisma mason]

But hey I can make a trash picture so it's fine

[north hawk]

I do support AI. It has its use cases. You've made your stance on it quite clear and so have I.

[prisma mason]

And just know you also support waste and ruining ppls lives just so a robot can type for you

[glass granite]

-# Ok let’s keep it civil folks

[prisma mason]

I'm being very civil honestly it's just the reality

[north hawk]

You're clearly very passionate about your stance. What's your goal here?

[prisma mason]

It's not being passionate to point out the facts and why it's not worth the squeeze to support something that does way more harm than actual good

[stoic haven]

Um, you aren't, you are now attacking a person and not the idea, so no, it is no longer a civil conversation

[stoic haven]

What's not worth something to someone might be to another, no one dictates what someone else seems as worthy

[prisma mason]

I'm not insulting them in anyway and they can choose to block me if they want

[stoic haven]

Shouldn't have to come to that

[prisma mason]

I'd say being able to have a robot make a picture isn't worth the cost of how badly it ruins communities and the environment

[proven mountain]

This isn't the channel for this debate anyway. This is for D&D talk. If you want to talk about AI move to #non-dnd-topics

[glass granite]

Agreed

[still plover]

Excellent! Have you all got your own facets arranged?

[timid current]

I think people demonize blocking a lot more than they need to. It's a healthy way to help manage your social engagement

[glass granite]

Oh helll yeahhhh

[timid current]

I block people all the time. Sometimes I even remember to add a note as to why

[stoic haven]

Oh dang, that sounds fun

[naive cedar]

I never block people unless they’re actively harassing me but idc if other people block. the tools are there for a reason

[glass granite]

A paladin’s worst nightmare

[north hawk]

I generally save blocking as a last resort. I usually try to have a conversation and understand the person. But sometimes it's really not worth the effort.

[proven mountain]

That sounds like a blast. Have fun 😄

[north hawk]

Depends on the platform and if you know the person at all.

[glass granite]

-# off-topic but, Hades is goated

[north hawk]

Yeah I need to play Hades II.

[sleek cloud]

Well, so far we’ve all got our character sheets squared away, stats rolled with the dm, and if we survive long enough our chosen subclasses. (Swashbuckler, thief, and assassin)

[still plover]

Here's hoping you get to do at leaat one heist.

[proven mountain]

Sneak in one Barbarian who's pretending to be a Rogue and see how long it takes for them to figure it out

[sleek cloud]

I just hope to survive since I’m probably gonna be targeted the most being the one in melee

You know what would be hilarious? Preparing a backup rogue

[still plover]

Conan was a thief.

[timid current]

And a king, and a pirate, and general, and a soldier, and a whole lot of other things

[still plover]

Lad went 1-20.

[timid current]

And then some

He wore armor as often as not, usually fought with a long knife (poignard) but would use whatever is nearby, and spoke like a dozen languages

Pulp heroes truly are a different breed

[low ferry]

Is there a way to make gambit in 5e dnd?

[frosty veldt]

one of the craziest moments of the last few days was finally wrapping up a campaign that ran for over seven years. Countless sessions, endless plots and twists… and a lot of beer along the way
I never expected that a table full of people in their 30s would end up crying at the very end, together with their DM (yeah, that was me).
Some stories just stay with us forever. And honestly? When I finally retire, I might just write this one down as a book… haha

[woven flint]

It's generally not a good idea to try to emulate a character from fiction in D&D, there are throwing cards, but that's about it
Alternatively, you could play a wizard and flavor throwing fireballs as storing kinetic energy in cards

Flavor is free, but mechanically recreating a character in their entirety is.. improbable

[low ferry]

I just want the exploding cards is there a homebrew website with that?

[woven flint]

Probably

[sleek cloud]

The sinner rogue subclass from crooked moon is your closest non homebrew bet, lets you use gaming set stuff (cards included) as a weapon that does force damage, has the vex property, and there’s a whole slew of effects you roll for when you hit sneak attack

But that’s 3rd party so you’d need permission

[minor cargo]

Not sure if you have a group lined up or just making characters for fun or whatever, but heads-up if this is helpful!

A DM (and group tbh) is likely to review your homebrew and there's a chance what you find doesn't fit (and this can be for a number of reasons). As such, they might say it's not allowed.

That's not to say you shouldn't look at homebrew, of course! Just trying to set better expectations! Good luck! ✌️

[jaunty wyvern]

Sinner rogue gets a force attack that uses a game set so make that cards. And take the cartomancer feat as well of course

[low ferry]

Ty

[sleek cloud]

Bruh

Glad I could help I guess

[cursive sand]

Is it just me but seeing others play dnd gives me so much motivation to write my own campaign ready, whenever the actual session is next

[jaunty wyvern]

Jinxcraft can also let you do different effects with your sneak attack which can emulate his different energy infusions

[low ferry]

Where do I find sinner rogue?

[sleek cloud]

Literally said it earlier

[iron iris]

Can someone answer a question for me fellow dms? I have a Pact of Blade Warlock player who has a weapon bonded and he recently took the dual wielder feat, he wants to use Conjure to create a pact weapon, from my understanding reading it you can only have one or the other. Which is it?

[glass granite]

#dnd-discussion message

[sleek cloud]

It only works with 1 weapon

[iron iris]

Cool thought so, thanks

[silver dock]

our cleric stood in place curing himself out of all of his spell slots instead of disengaging to come heal our fighter who was low

[low ferry]

What is the table for jinxcraft because it doesn't say what it does

[glass granite]

Idk

[wanton sorrel]

shrugs

[woven flint]

I'd kill that Cleric ngl (not that I suggest it)

[silver dock]

we lost the fighter btw

[sleek cloud]

You’d likely have to get the content since we can’t go into al the specifics of that kind of stuff without breaking server terms and all

The short of it is you roll 2d6 and depending what you get with your total there’s different debuffs

[jaunty wyvern]

Its not super expansive but too large to post here one sec ill see if i can find it somewhere easy

Its in Crooked Moon

If you just wanna buy the book (its pretty awesome imo)

[low ferry]

Is it kickstarter because there a nuther cool one its like i think kaijus and yokai?

[sleek cloud]

It’s on dnd beyond, crooked moon part 1

[jaunty wyvern]

Yea i usually only answer questions on here with officially supported answers (you know considering this is DnDBeyonds server n all lol)

[low ferry]

Is there a way to get in I normal book form?

[jaunty wyvern]

Yep you can buy a phys copy from the store

I think all of the crooked moon classes slap. The species are a bit overtuned imo but the setting justifies it i feel

[low ferry]

Oh nice is there any others books that have cool rouge subclasses or new races?

[jaunty wyvern]

I forgot what book soulblade is from (tashas?) and inquisitive is niche but fun

[low ferry]

I got all the main books mostly for free but the super new ones I think last time I saw a cowboy one?

[sleek cloud]

Oh yeah the valdas gunslinger

[icy crag]

Nice

[low ferry]

Is that also a actual book you can have?

[stuck shuttle]

You can buy a physical copy direct from the publisher Mage Hand Press

I will warn that Valda’s, like Crooked Moon are 3rd-Party so they’re unofficial content

So not every table will be likely to allow it

[low ferry]

Oh I don't know anyone except my frends that have no idea how to properly play dnd and just want to have fun. I do know how to play tho. They seemed interesting so I made a fun campaign I hope 😅

Also what 3 party book in dnd beyond has the best races?

[jaunty wyvern]

Gunslinger and its subclasses are so fun (if also a bit niche)

My fav is high roller

Secret agent is kinda bad but its also fun

Its got really good art of a 007 dragonborn

[sleek cloud]

It is pretty solid for sure

[timber turtle]

whats your favourite Monster?

[remote wadi]

Mimic

[timber turtle]

mines Hydra

[naive cedar]

Dragons are kinda cool

[jaunty wyvern]

Humblewood made me love couatls

[timber turtle]

coatls? the snake birds?

theyre cool

[jaunty wyvern]

I won’t spoil why but yea i kinda love them now

[grand onyx]

Helloooooo

[jaunty wyvern]

Yo

[grand onyx]

Based?

[naive cedar]

Based on what? /j

[grand onyx]

😭

That’s it you’re going to the shadow realm

[empty thicket]

Golems

you can make them out of tons of things in theory
Rock, clay, meat, gold, bread, cheese, an entire mountain, etc. etc.

[grand onyx]

Cheese golem

[naive cedar]

Uh hmm ackshually it should be the shadowfell

[grand onyx]

GRAAAAAAAAAH

That’s it you’re going to avernus

[jaunty wyvern]

Woe endless emo music in the shadow wastes upon thee

[glass granite]

No, they’re Alleycat. Who’s Going To Avernus?

[grand onyx]

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Alleycat going to avernus

[severe rampart]

I'm going to Avernus

[glass granite]

I see, pleased to meet ya

[wispy flare]

I didnt get enough supplies and got the 2024 players handbook

[grand onyx]

Please to meet you going to avernus