dnd-discussion

[robust gull]

Is this like stranger things dnd i wanna do a stranger thing like campaign anyone got any tips

[golden hamlet]

Welcome to the hellfire club has some official stuff if you have spending $

[rugged hawk]

Oop, I was scrolled way up, apparently.

[severe rampart]

Holy crap

That's so cool, Echo

[robust gull]

Does that teach u how to play also

[hidden spindle]

Poisoner is also good for Spellcasters with an affinity to Poison Spells

[robust gull]

And how many players do i need for hellfire

[untold osprey]

would be so cool if they released a manual

[severe rampart]

There are free online tools for teaching you how to play

[robust gull]

W

I have 3 guys that wanna play i heard u need 4

[severe rampart]

You don't need 4

[golden hamlet]

You can check out the free basic rules on ddb. After the site starts working again

[robust gull]

I have really no other friends

[rugged hawk]

Yeah, it's called 'other people in the Discord'.

[severe rampart]

You can just do three if you'd like

[robust gull]

Does it make it worse

[golden hamlet]

3 is good. easy to tweak monsters

[severe rampart]

When I asked about my character's alignment people talked for 58 minutes until we came to the conclusion that morality is subjective and the alignment chart is very loose in dnd

[golden hamlet]

Yeah alignment is more of a guideline if anything

[severe rampart]

Also it's better to read first and get a general understanding and then start asking questions, I don't think most people would like to explain DnD from scratch all day

[hidden spindle]

You can look at the personality trait tables of the alignments and pick the best one that matches your characters

[severe rampart]

I've already resolved it, but thank you

[hidden spindle]

There's also personality traits for ability scores too

I get bored so I roll on them

[golden hamlet]

Yes, there's lots of stuff to read that will answer your questions

[severe rampart]

My character is stubborn, an idiot, and wants to be alone all the time, I think I just self inserted into DnD

[hushed mason]

Why does your character want to adventure with a party?

[hidden spindle]

I'm always Lawful Good

[severe rampart]

They owe a debt, they don't like being indebted to people

[robust gull]

Is welcome to hellfire any good/ related to stranger thinys

[hushed mason]

Couldn't they just as easily work alone, then, if they want to be alone all the time? What motivates them to be cooperative?

[regal sky]

I want to play dnd

I’m new 🥲

[severe rampart]

I meant, they owe a debt to another party member, but I would like their arc to have them finally rely on people for strength and to have the bond that they needed when they were young

[severe rampart]

Go to #learn-to-play

Also I forgot the Dyno command for it

[regal sky]

Ty sonar

[hushed mason]

Welcome. We may send you to other channels, but everyone here is really quite friendly.

[severe rampart]

?new

[glass granite]

Hi new I’m Nugget

[severe rampart]

ah, that wasn't it, darn

[regal sky]

Ty

[glass granite]

I thought that was it

[regal sky]

Hi nugget

[severe rampart]

It's okay, Nugget

[marble maple]

Was supposed to have a dnd session today, but i guess its not happening. 3 consecutive weeks of hiatus...

[severe rampart]

Amen to that, I'm going insane

[remote wadi]

I... don't know how. Or more importantly, why (would you do that?)

[hushed mason]

Tis the season for people to fall ill. We managed to run on Sunday despite illness, thankfully.

[robust gull]

Whats the easist dnd campain for a new team

[keen kestrel]

Also the season when everyone is busy ugh, I just wanna play dnd

[severe rampart]

I'm running on cope and hope right now, I need a random one-shot from a different group

[robust gull]

Like what should i buy for 50€ budgey

[hushed mason]

You bought a budgie for 50 pounds?

[robust gull]

Bi

[severe rampart]

You know you should play first, see what you like, and then decide what kind of campaign you'd like to buy

[hushed mason]

Budget. Nevermind. I thought we were talking about the birds.

[robust gull]

How do i play without any book or anything

[hushed mason]

You read the rules online!

[severe rampart]

There are free DnD campaigns online as well

[robust gull]

Oh so i get my friends to play online

[severe rampart]

Also I'm asking this right now, does your group have a DM?

[robust gull]

Or do i print them out and play irl

[severe rampart]

You don't have to be online, you can meet up in person and have a laptop open

[hushed mason]

Either.

[robust gull]

I doubt anyone will be dm but ill try

[severe rampart]

You could also do that

[warm basalt]

be prepared to print 100+ pages though haha

[severe rampart]

Well your big book of rules just got 100 more pages to it

[hushed mason]

THe current adventure I'm running is about 60 pages.

And I like to have a hard copy, so I've printed most of it.

[marble maple]

Curious if anyone else is having the same issue. I opened up the DND Beyond app and its saying that all the Adventure books are unavailable

[severe rampart]

Yes. Multiple members have said the same thing, best to wait until it is resolved

[timid anvil]

Thats because the site is down for maintenance

[sonic quiver]

#dnd-announcements message

[marble maple]

Makes sense

[hidden spindle]

Sorcerer's Transmuted Metamagic: Poison

How? It just says when you make damage rolls that deal Poison damage

[severe rampart]

I hope this one-shot is happening, or I'll be destroyed, like the half life 2 fans

[obtuse lark]

Hi

[quaint bear]

Im trying to login into dnd beyon

But it not letting me in

[glass granite]

#dnd-announcements message

[hushed mason]

No offense, but it seems like a very silly time to have scheduled maintenance. If only due to the overtime they surely must be paying folks to work on a holiday...

[errant gust]

I don't think it was scheduled

[glacial hazel]

It is not scheduled.

[errant gust]

in fact, it wasn't. There's been a whole thing in #ddb-support

[glacial hazel]

Please keep all support discussion to #ddb-support

[quaint bear]

Oh

I guess imma js ship art of 2 ocs and then make a d&d oc

I might be genius🥹✌️

[robust gull]

I dont got any books..

[severe rampart]

... Online

[robust gull]

Oh sorry

So where do i get the online maps and shut

[severe rampart]

You can make your own, or get one from the books

Or you can use Roll20 as a virtual tabletop

[warm basalt]

or you can 'theatre of mind' where theres no map

[severe rampart]

Ah, I've heard of this before... I believe it was called... the imagee nation?

[warm basalt]

it is the most affordable, at least

[robust gull]

Wait in the free campaigns is there maps?

And where do i find free campaigns

[severe rampart]

I've never actually checked, so perhaps, but if not you can check online

[severe rampart]

Online, DnD beyond has some but it's currently down right now

[glass granite]

?tag ddb claim

[cosmic roost]

The following items on D&D Beyond can be claimed at no cost.

• Baldur's Gate 3 Set
• Borderlands Quest: Goblin Trouble
• Honor Among Thieves Bundle
• Intro to Stormwreck Isle
• LEGO: Red Dragon's Tale
• Prisoner 13
• Scions of Elemental Evil
• Unearthed Arcana Playtesting
• Uni and the Hunt for the Lost Horn
  -# = starter adventure; = digital dice

[warm basalt]

Theres also map making sites, haven't tried myself but they seem good

[severe rampart]

OR there is the super secret third option, homebrewing where you make your own campaign from scratch

But it's not recommended for beginners, I don't think

[robust gull]

I found one!

[hushed mason]

Found one what?

[robust gull]

Campain

[severe rampart]

That would've been helpful, thanks Nugget

[remote wadi]

I mean like... why would you do that?

[glass granite]

Poison resistance bypass I think

[robust gull]

Its called clam

[glass granite]

Cuz poison is cool

[remote wadi]

I'm saying a poison focused wizard

Idk about that one, chief

[glass granite]

It’s not optimal, but thematically it’s very cool

And that’s enough for plenty

Plus, some campaigns will have less poison immunity than others

[warm basalt]

if any player at my table went so hard on one element, I would definitely tone down full immunities to it. Not fun when you deal 0 damage

[glass granite]

Agreed. I did that with my spore Druid: I gave them a magic item where their necrotic spores could harm undead

[quaint bear]

Is it baxk uo

Baxck uo?

[tall arrow]

Thank you for the fix on this holiday!

[obtuse sleet]

I’m using an ogre for a bad guy 😭

[rough basalt]

If someone wants to run poison in my games I just letem know if it's doable or not.

[obtuse sleet]

Hmm

[rough basalt]

Tho my take on a homebrew class has a subclass that has an ability to ignore poison immunity so I'm open to other things.

Mainly for poison.

[stark tundra]

I have nanites

[rugged hawk]

Okay, Armstrong

[stoic obsidian]

What more brutal hold monster or mass suggestion on giants?

[stark tundra]

Thank you someone who gets it

I legit designed a bbeg who is made of flesh and nanites

[stoic obsidian]

Why not toast and beard, naming them ed

[stark tundra]

Because that's the first boss

[stoic obsidian]

You saying butter toast wouldn’t scare you?

And not respectable as a final villain

[stark tundra]

I don't have celiac so I'm fine

[worldly flare]

So… Wizards are pretty cool.

[stark tundra]

I agree wizards are cool

[stoic obsidian]

Especially bladesinger and evoker

[burnt valley]

Mass suggestion, tell them to choke themselves since it doesn't cause damage, only exhaustion

[stoic obsidian]

That dm fiat my friend

[burnt valley]

Pain

[stark tundra]

Nah auto defenestrate

[worldly flare]

Yeah, I’m a Scribes enjoyer myself.

[final harness]

If I use Ray of Frost and then Cook a piece of human meat and eat it as a humaj. Would you guys co sider the meat safe to eat (relatively)? I want to know yalls opinions on "flash freezing" food with magic

[robust gull]

Wait for mu first game do i need a dice i have a 6 sided dice only..

[final harness]

You can just use an online dice roller

[robust gull]

Ohhh

[warm basalt]

If its online no. If it takes place irl people can lend you as well

[final harness]

Just look up 1d20 and that's it

[robust gull]

I genuinely know 0 people that play dnd in Cork Ireland lol

[final harness]

Even irl it's still doablewith online dice

But regular dice are prefered

[robust gull]

I asked my friends to play i thought theyd say no but they were cool with playing a game to test it out

[warm basalt]

idk how cork is but there might be a local game store where people play in-location. Might be worth a try as well? Of course if you already have a game then not recommended lol

[robust gull]

I have me and 2 friends we never played before but i hope it goes well in our first campain

[stark tundra]

I mean for a while you had a yt who played it living there

In Ireland he moved to London though because he's a weirdo

[robust gull]

Wdym

[final harness]

Fellas how cold is ray of frost?

Could it reach -48C?

[idle oar]

D&D doesn't do physicis simulation well.

It does magical cold damage

magic

[crimson gulch]

It destroys all instruments built to measure it

Like how dragon fire does the same

I have actually lived through weather that cold too

Watching the gas guy pour a glass of propane was insane

[magic roost]

Do you really just respond to the find a game messages or is there a standard or sum im scared of messing up

[stark tundra]

Jacksepticeye

[loud tendon]

the messages in say #looking-for-players all have threads attached to them. Generally you reply in there unless the poster says otherwise.
As long as you are polite you are likely fine.

[magic roost]

Alrighty! I’m just super shy and scared of accidentally breaking a rule or something

[final harness]

But.... if I hit a box of metal eith ray of frost. Would ut flash freeze the meat inside, destroy the metal box but keep the meat intact?

[hidden spindle]

With that, you'd want Scribes Wizard. Get more varieties wherever Spell Levels available

[crimson gulch]

Dnd is not physics, objects have hp and if you hit them with attacks you break them generally

[final harness]

Damn 😭

[molten pumice]

You could explain that that's the situation you're going for though, and depending on your DM and how you argue your case, you could get it to happen. A classic "that's not how the spell works but sure" situation

It wouldn't convey the mechanical specifics but if you were attempting to do something narratively it could potentially be allowed depending on the table

[upper latch]

One time I roll a nat 1 and killed myself in game

[final harness]

Lmao

[final harness]

I mean all I'm doing is clearing my meat of potential parasites

Granted it's human meat (eaten by a human)

[hidden spindle]

You want the Spell: Purify Food & Water.

And Gentle Repose

[final harness]

Genius shit cuh

Lemme check the guidebook rq

[hidden spindle]

Everyone's mentioned it a bit but with the proper DM that understands physics and science, you can attain a lot.

[final harness]

"Rendered free of poison and disease" huzzah! Thanks unc

I just need to make my cannibal an Eldritch Knight and grab that as one of ky spells

Or js go a spellcaster

[hidden spindle]

Might do well to pick up Ritual Caster, in either '14 or '24.

[final harness]

And gentle repose as a fridge?

It is genius I tell you. Masterful work my friend

[molten pumice]

That'd probably be harder then since generally people don't want to give flavor uses that conflict with other existing spells and there is purify food and drink. You could likely flavor that spell as using the same ice magic you'd use for your ray of frost though

[craggy rune]

Hey guys

[final harness]

Yeah I completely forgot about purify food and water 😭

[magic roost]

Hiii

[craggy rune]

I just started my journey to become a dnd player

[craggy rune]

Hey ^^

[magic roost]

Hey same!

[hot drift]

ive played before, but never a formal game outside oneshots

[winged jungle]

hello! 🙂

[magic roost]

Same I’m looking for a long term but I’m a lil shy in looking for game

Do I reply to multiple or just 1?

[hot drift]

dosent bug me

[idle oar]

Reply to any and all that sound interesting and you can fit their play schedule.

[glossy otter]

so, hows everyones new year so far

[final harness]

Mid

[idle oar]

I've had better starts to a year but... not so horrible I guess.

[hidden spindle]

Flying home from vacation

🌨️ to 🌥️

[glossy otter]

I see, I see. It's only the first day so I'm sure it'll curve for the better

[blazing trout]

How long would the outing be because I have a campaign that needs DND beyond 😬

[glossy otter]

outing?

[idle oar]

We don't know. Techs are looking into it and while many of the services are up, some are still experiencing degredation.

Might be best to run something that doesn't need DnDBeyond right now or reschedule for a later date once services are fully restored.

[hearty totem]

hello, me and my friend are looking for a DM who is willing to put up with A LOT of homebrew and other shenanigans

[idle oar]

Check out #looking-for-players and #looking-for-community for any games/groups that feel like a good fit.

[molten pumice]

I'm not encountering any problem on my end with the app or website

[swift vale]

whats a good race for rouge from the handbook

[idle oar]

One that feels fun for you to play and fits the game setting you're playing in.

[cerulean zealot]

hi everyone i legit js got into dnd and im so confused i made my character tho but like still what

[stark tundra]

That's understandable what did you make

[cerulean zealot]

i made a character whos a fighter it was interesting and so complicated making it BUT I DID IT!!

[stark tundra]

Right what was confusing or complicated

[hasty gale]

Hey

[cerulean zealot]

i feel like knowing which specific traits to choose that will help most in the long run yk?

[stark tundra]

Yep that's a good idea so those are something you can either roll for or you can make one yourself both are good options like I had a bardbarian who wanted to play the world's heaviest instruments and loved death metal

Sorry I ramble

[mossy folio]

Hey sorry to bother im new to the 2024 rule book, ive been running 2014 for the time because thats what was the latest version for when we started the campaign, im now building a new character and ive got questions

Would someone be able to lend a hand?

[formal dove]

do paladins have to worship their god?

[keen kestrel]

paladins don't technically have to have a god at all

[hushed mason]

I believe in fifth edition, they don't even have to have a deity.

[mossy folio]

Not technically, broken oath paladins

[turbid vessel]

As I say; similar to how there's real life religions with no deity, a cleric and paladin can exist without worshipping a god

[jovial shadow]

Clerics still need a god for things like Divine Intervention

[knotty pasture]

Clerics are the only ones that need to worship something

[hushed mason]

Not if you ask Sertrous...

[turbid vessel]

"deity OR pantheon"

[knotty pasture]

Paladins gain power from swearing to a promise really hard, Druids straight up draw power from nature

[jovial shadow]

Pantheon is a group of deities. Whether it is one or many.

[remote wadi]

A little curious about something

What feats pair well with a samurai fighter? They can be combat options like Slasher or can be something secondary like intimidation, persuasion, etc

[stuck shuttle]

You might get some more focused help in #character-discussion !

[mossy folio]

Thanks

[marble lion]

Oath of the Childhood friend when?

"You promised we would marry" type backstory

[stuck shuttle]

Outside of the standard fighter feats? Maybe something flavorful like Observant or Keen Mind

[knotty pasture]

Tbh Oath of Devotion does kinda fit this

[marble lion]

I have a new character concept

Gotta find a dm who is fine with doing light romance moments then

[knotty pasture]

Have your character set a death flag of "I'll marry you once I come back!!!!" but it also somehow gave them powers

Paladin of love sounds sappy

[marble lion]

Very

[umbral girder]

Ah the Goku/Chichi flag

[stark tundra]

Fun fact chichi was supposed to come back before the tournament but toriama forgot about her

[umbral girder]

Demon King Piccolo style DnD campaign would be neat to try for a BBEG

[stark tundra]

Ooo you just sent me down a rabbit hole I'll be back

Give me 3 days and all the Adderall

[cold quartz]

Y’all

I think my players are gonna hate me after we’re done with our campaign

Because I’m planning to have before the final boss be a boss rush of all previous bosses followed by the final fight being two guys who are both stronger than terasques

[burnt valley]

Do the two guys specialize in melee?

[knotty pasture]

Nothing enough short/long rests won't solve

[burnt valley]

Also tier 4 wizards in general

[remote wadi]

Anything related to Charisma?

[humble cairn]

Inspiring Leader?

[remote wadi]

Mmm, probably not

I can probably just make do with proficiencies on Athletics, Persuasion, and possibly Deception

[knotty pasture]

It'd be such a waste of feats

Go polearm master + gwm or something, alert and lucky are nice too

[stuck shuttle]

I wouldn’t say it’s a waste, maybe not optimal but not a waste

[amber echo]

Guys one doubt If I'm at level 5 and I gain my extra attack, can I use the extra attack even when performing an attack with Booming Blade, Green-Flame Blade, and True Strike?

[stuck shuttle]

No, because Extra Attack applies only to the Attack Action

[remote wadi]

Neither of those would be that effective or thematic for a Samurai Fighter

[stuck shuttle]

All those spells involve an attack roll, but use the Magic Action

[umbral girder]

No only specific subclasses can.

[remote wadi]

He would be more akin to a duelist anyways

[umbral girder]

Bladesinger being notable.
2024 Eldritch Knight and Valor Bard too.

[remote wadi]

So, Action is mostly split into casting a spell, attacking an opponent, or interacting with the environment

Extra Attacks just mean that attacking the opponent can be done more than one should you take the action

[amber echo]

So even though these 3 tricks require a weapon attack, they still use magic action. ?

[knotty pasture]

Why wouldn't it be, Samurai traditionally use naginata (a type of Japanese glaive)

[primal fox]

Looking for opinions from DMs (and players I suppose!) on best VTT for a new dm? I've played on owl bear, roll 20 and foundry as a player, but idk what people like best from the DM side

[knotty pasture]

Otherwise its the same old crossbow master + sharpshooter

[umbral girder]

Yes

[stuck shuttle]

I would second the Inspiring Leader suggestion. Maybe Musician as well.

Maybe also take a look at the Bigby’s Giants feats for some fun weapon options

[remote wadi]

If that would be the case, then it would be for another concept entirely. Problem is, it's really hard to make that work due to the lack of existence for a Polearm with the Finesse trait

I already had a good sorcerer concept go to waste because of that

[knotty pasture]

Oh you're going Dex Fighter, just go crossbow master + sharpshooter then lol

[amber echo]

I have another question. Now the game only allows one spell to be cast per turn, and if a sorcerer casts a spell using metamagic to cast it with a bonus action, what can they do with their unused action? Shoot? Hide? Disengage?

[empty thicket]

and using archer fighting style too

[remote wadi]

I'll just stick to a Scimitar reflavoring and duel fighting style

[empty thicket]

idk what subclass you would go with that, maybe champion for chance of critics

[remote wadi]

Crossbows are not my thing at all

[remote wadi]

Samurai

[knotty pasture]

Yeah go longbow instead then

[umbral girder]

Well if it’s 2024 rules it’s 1 spell slot a turn

[empty thicket]

im giving the chance to a heavy one, my artificer infused it and now i dont have to reload, so i can do 2 to 4 attacks

[pallid haven]

bow and arrow?

[stuck shuttle]

I’m going to assume your table is the average table, in which case it doesn’t matter too much if you don’t spec into a ranged build

[umbral girder]

And in 2014 it is “if your bonus action is a spell your action must be a Cantrip”

So there are technically ways around both rules to have more than 1 leveled spell a turn

[empty thicket]

until X level that you can do taht but with a spell

[amber echo]

So I could use metamagic to cast a spell with the bonus action and cast a cantrip with the main action?

[remote wadi]

If I had to, yes. Personal preference is firearms > bows > crossbows

But I'm just going Samurai with Duel fighting style

[empty thicket]

oh nvm, mix of concepts

[knotty pasture]

Ngl isn't that even less thematic

[umbral girder]

Yes

[knotty pasture]

Do samurai use shields again I forgot

[empty thicket]

so if i was a sorc i could cast a cantrip and spell at teh same turn?

[empty thicket]

nope, they normally dont

[umbral girder]

Yes with quickened spell

[empty thicket]

Spears, bows and arrows, gunpowder guns, long and shortsowrds

[remote wadi]

Who said I was using shields??

[fair plinth]

Guys what do warlocks do better than other spellcasters? Why would i pick one over wizard or whatever else?

[knotty pasture]

With Dueling you normally run shields cuz shields don't disable Dueling

[umbral girder]

Warlocks do their own thing in terms of spellcasting not really “better”

[empty thicket]

Warlock cast spells at their max power
Wizard have variety of spells
Sorc have adaptability
Druid is druid

[remote wadi]

Which is true
But
I'm just using a singular one handed weapon

[stuck shuttle]

Could always flavor it as a small buckler, or otherwise it doesn’t have to be 100% accurate to an IRL samurai

[empty thicket]

Oh and warlock reload spells in short rests too, so in recovery they have that plus.
Wizard can change his spells in any free time he have

[umbral girder]

Also with invocations a good chunk of useful spells don’t need any spell slots anymore

[empty thicket]

and then the pact and we arent even adding the subclass

[knotty pasture]

That's very strange

Romantic sure but strange

[coarse ravine]

Best attacking cantrip in the game. Has alot of versatility within that single cantrip.

[remote wadi]

Aside from a shield, what other benefits does having a free arm give?

[glass granite]

Grappling, dueling

[remote wadi]

Dueling being the fighting style?

[glass granite]

Yes

[remote wadi]

But aside from that, the strengths aren't significant

[coarse ravine]

High fiving, unarmed strikes, sign language for your allys. Lots of uses

[glass granite]

Personally I think it’s kinda niche, which is why many builds don’t use a free hand.

[glass granite]

You don’t need a free arm to unarmed strike

[icy matrix]

Technically you dont need a fee arm to grapple

[glass granite]

Wait what?

I thought that only applied to unarmed strikes?

[remote wadi]

So then, what would you recommend for a Samurai build?

[icy matrix]

Nope. Nothing in the rules saying you need a free arm to attempt to grapple

[remote wadi]

Wait a minute, you're telling me that there's only 5 subclasses for 2024 fighter?

[umbral girder]

Also the expanded books like Samurai, Rune Knight, etc.

Remember all expanded books apply to 2024 if the content is not updated.

[glass granite]

Just from Roll20 for 2014 rules

“Using at least one free hand, you try to seize the target by making a grapple check instead of an attack roll: a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). If you succeed, you subject the target to the grappled condition (see Conditions ). The condition specifies the things that end it, and you can release the target whenever you like (no action required).”

[stoic haven]

It does say you need a free hand

2024 also states this

[glass granite]

Literally any weapon combo that isn’t two weapon fighting without nick

[umbral girder]

Aren’t samurai primarily archers?

[glass granite]

Personally I like bows, but considering you just ran a bow character how about a nodachi great sword? Or if you don’t want a Japanese vibe I also like polearms.

[glass granite]

Believe so, and if not they use polearms

And when they got guns they used that

[glass granite]

Granted, polearm master isn’t perfect here

[stark tundra]

Samurai actually used guns

[glass granite]

Indeed

[stark tundra]

Its quite interesting to learn that towards the end of them having any relevance they had black powder pistols

Note the rest of the world was more advanced but Japan was always a little behind

[remote wadi]

Actually, this could be a blessing in disguise

[stark tundra]

Which thing

[glass granite]

Is it in disguise? And yeah what are you talking about?

[stark tundra]

Oh I have the first session of the dbdnd

Dragon ball dungeons and dragons

[hushed mason]

Wassup, @remote wadi ?

[glass granite]

Oh hi Ladyislay!

[hushed mason]

Hello Nugget.

[stark tundra]

Hi nugget and lady

[glass granite]

Sup, dope/nerd/dopenerd.

[stark tundra]

Call me nerd or du'kurn

[remote wadi]

Mmm, the chance of Samurai not being possible for 2024 or the campaign (DM is recommending for now we make our plans for PHB only)

[glass granite]

Aight, nerd

[remote wadi]

It did give me the chance to look again at Battle Master

[glass granite]

Battle master is great

[umbral girder]

Probably the least changed subclass

[glass granite]

One of the best fighter subclass too

[umbral girder]

No wait I just remembered the Manuver changes

[glass granite]

Mercy monk barely changed iirc

[umbral girder]

Some of them got buffed

[stark tundra]

I prefer 5e

No hate to the new stuff just my preference

[umbral girder]

It’s still 5e

[empty thicket]

yep, they were closed in a lot of senses, that is why many things were "behind" in his moment for them.
While some had guns, they still used bows and spears

[remote wadi]

Yeah, it might just capture the versatility better

[stark tundra]

Fun fact the development of gunpowder is the reason the Mongolian empire fell

[remote wadi]

Also, can you change maneuvers learned during a Long Rest?

[umbral girder]

Yeah the Weapon masteries stack with Maneuvers too so you can probably find fun combos

[empty thicket]

champion is simple, if not, Banneret give you a more supportish role and you can still deal tons of damage

[umbral girder]

No

[remote wadi]

It doesn't say it anywhere in the description on a website, but I assume that is the case, given that you can swap weapon masteries during a long rest

No? That's unfortunate

[glass granite]

Nope

[umbral girder]

You can only swap one out when you learn a new one.

[glass granite]

Only when you get more maneuvres, so level 7, 10 and 15

[umbral girder]

“You learn two additional maneuvers of your choice when you reach Fighter levels 7, 10, and 15. Each time you learn new maneuvers, you can also replace one maneuver you know with a different one.”

[remote wadi]

Wanted to ask about that in case there was something I missed

Anyways, I think I can work with that one. Best part is, it can work with more than one type of weapon

[glass granite]

What weapon are you gonna use again?

[remote wadi]

At the time, my choice was assuming I would play Samurai

[glass granite]

This is with 2014 or 2024 rules again?

[jovial shadow]

You are thinking of weapon masteries

[remote wadi]

2024

[glass granite]

Thought so.
Yeah, any weapon still works

Fighters can just kinda do that

Though whips are a lil tricky to use

But with maneuvers it might be able to work…
Still, other weapons are probably better

[jovial shadow]

what makes a whip tricky?

[glass granite]

Just low damage
So there are just usually better options

[jovial shadow]

Unless you are a Monk.

[humble cairn]

I want to play my Thrown Weapons Battle Master.

[glass granite]

Oh yeah then that’s super fun. Love my whip monks

But this is a battle master, so there are usually better alternatives

[humble cairn]

I don't believe whips are currently Monk weapons.

[jovial shadow]

They aren't.

[remote wadi]

Hmmm...
So, I can't choose a good weapon for now, but I can reflavor one if needed

[humble cairn]

So we're talkng using Kensei, then?

[glass granite]

They are no?

They’re a light martial melee weapon

[jovial shadow]

Oh wait they are

[humble cairn]

They are not light. They are Finesse.

[glass granite]

Ah

[jovial shadow]

oh right they are finesse

[glass granite]

Damn
Tis a shame

[jovial shadow]

Never mind then.

[glass granite]

What do you want in a weapon?

[stark tundra]

How would y'all class the power pole

[glass granite]

The what?

[remote wadi]

One example i could use that would be fun is reflavoring a maul as a kanabo

[humble cairn]

Rogues, on the other hand gained Whip prof in 2024.

[glass granite]

That’s a great club, no?

[remote wadi]

Probably ranking class by how powerful they are

[stark tundra]

Power pole Goku's weapon in Early dragon ball

Its a pole arm yes but it can grow and shrink

[glass granite]

The quarterstaff?

[humble cairn]

Oh the one based on the Monkey King's Jingu Bang.

[remote wadi]

Great club is just worse, though. I'm a Fighter

[glass granite]

But it’s a big club. That’s fun.

[stark tundra]

Basically yeah gotta remember Goku is a sun wukong type of character

[knotty pasture]

Speaking of whips, I wish Warlocks have proficiency with whips without needing to go Hexblade or Pact of the Blade

[pallid haven]

question what is a westmarch in DnD?

[stark tundra]

Actually one of the most powerful

[remote wadi]

So is the maul if you think about it

[knotty pasture]

Think the only option for Warlocks is just poking people with daggers otherwise up close

[glass granite]

The maul is a big hammer

[humble cairn]

"Westmarch" is a style of game that usually involves many players and many DMs all running one shared world.

[remote wadi]

Kanabo could be considered the same. If it wasn't being used against people, it smashed through things like a hammer

[pallid haven]

so basically it's a type of campaign where party members are randomized?

[glass granite]

It smashed through things like a great club, no?

[humble cairn]

You do end up doing a lot of "pick-up" games, yes.

[humble cairn]

Flavor is free, remember.

[glass granite]

True

[knotty pasture]

Yes and no, I guess its kind of like a mmorpg where several things could be going on at once and so you can pair up with different people/DMs to take on quests and campaigns for example

[glass granite]

Just figured that’s a great club was the closest reflavour

[pallid haven]

is it a type of game where you can quit anytime you want?

[remote wadi]

I suppose. But both of them are extremely similar, so I'll just say "2d6 + Topple > 1d8 + Push" and stick to maul reflavoring

[glass granite]

I can see that

Plus, topple is fairly fun

[humble cairn]

I think so, but you'd want to see what the rules of each group are.

[remote wadi]

I guess to explain it is that I do love roleplay factors, but not to the point that I will considerably weaken myself as a result

[knotty pasture]

Flavoring is free +1

You also aren't that much weaker

[remote wadi]

Literally perfect

[remote wadi]

Well, maul vs great club could be a bit more severe both for damage and mastery

[glass granite]

-# Well there’s also the price difference

2sp to 10gp is a fair bit different. Though I don’t think it’ll be too big of an issue. I just like greatclubs because they make good YEET builds

At level 9, you’ll be able to yeet people too

[knotty pasture]

There's eventually magical weapons that would close the gap too

[remote wadi]

Sure, but like... whats 10 GP vs 2 sp? Big difference on multiplication, miniscule in the grand scheme of things

[remote wadi]

Explain?

[glass granite]

Pushing maneuvre + push + charger + crusher

That’s 30ft iirc

[remote wadi]

Oh. I thought it meant throwing people

[knotty pasture]

Idk I like the idea of running Soulknife Rogue just to save money for my team lol

[remote wadi]

Not like Knockback III enchantment

[glass granite]

Sorry 35ft
And yeah, 30 ft diagonally into the air also works

[remote wadi]

Or directly up

[knotty pasture]

I can live with sharing my gear with everyone cuz I can live with just a nice longbow

[glass granite]

I don’t think many DM’s wanna wanna let you do that, and I’m not sure if you can

Crusher is the only thing I remember there allowing you to push them upwards

[stark tundra]

I think I'm gonna make it a dex weapon but also strength might be needed if you want to make it really long and 2d10 to start

[remote wadi]

One thing thay would be fun for a gold dynamic is a Sling that shoots powerful golden balls (costs GP to fire), but won't do anything if you don't have the money

[glass granite]

-# silksong Rosary cannon?

[knotty pasture]

Yeah that's basically a rare gimmick mace in bg3 lol

[remote wadi]

Ehh, more Dead Cells Money Shooter. Think of a sling for a weapon

[glass granite]

Btw this build is best used against people at sea, people are getting yeeted into the ocean

[knotty pasture]

Deals extra piercing damage based on your proficiency for every 300 gold the enemy has, but the gold is consumed afterwards

[remote wadi]

That is literally
"Card declines
Lifeguard:"

[knotty pasture]

Its funny cuz you can just gift bosses a bunch of gold and one shot them

At the cost of going bankrupt of course but money is meaningless in bg3 so

[remote wadi]

Mmm, I was thinking something like...
"Costs 5 gp to fire, or spend 50 to make it at advantage" for a lose concept

It would just be fun to make a weapon that has it's effectiveness tied to gold

[empty thicket]

and do like BG3 and add an enemy that deal more damage depending of how much gold you have on you

[storm magnet]

I messed up a really fundamental thing in my dnd combat thing today and slowed everyone down. I feel bad.

I'm still learning

[glass granite]

Hi still learning, I’m Nugget
What was it btw?

[remote wadi]

Or just be more creative with gold as a while. Like genuine gold piles to pick up, but that gold has 20 times it's normal weight", making encumbrance and greed something to deal with

[jovial badger]

hi nugget, im that one- nvm

[tame estuary]

did you know, if the players also don't know the rules and fumbled then it's also on them

[storm magnet]

First thing was I forgot to write down my on hit modifier for my weapon since we already found it out last time

[tame estuary]

oh player, dang

[glass granite]

Well that’s fairly fast to calculate, so that’s not too bad

[remote wadi]

?

[jovial badger]

str mod + proficiency normally

[storm magnet]

Then I did smite and was asked how many spell slots I wanted to use, and I had no idea how many spell slots I had and how many were free so I just said one

[glass granite]

Lily thought they were a DM

[tame estuary]

no I was talking to the other one

[humble cairn]

You can only use one spell slot on a smite. So that wasn't wrong.

[glass granite]

Ah oki

[humble cairn]

You can choose the level of the slot you use, however.

[storm magnet]

Oh, idk that either

[tame estuary]

spell slot is something to learn

[glass granite]

You can only expend one spell slot a turn in 2024 rules

[tame estuary]

have a look at your class table to see how many spell slots you have per level

[humble cairn]

You really should know how many spell slots you have left, though. Do you not have your character sheet in front of you?

[storm magnet]

I do

[humble cairn]

So you should be using it to keep track of those things.

[timid cradle]

just got into DND and it feels like algebra all over again

[storm magnet]

That's true

I just completely forgot that spell slots were relevant for paladins

But I can fix all that on my next longg rst right?

[humble cairn]

For casting spells, specifically.

[tame estuary]

fix?

[glass granite]

Nice catch

[storm magnet]

I thought you can rearrange your spell slots during a long rest

[glass granite]

Nope

[tame estuary]

you can rearrange your spell slots at any time

[atomic kayak]

You are thinking about prepared spells, not spell slots

[storm magnet]

Ahhh

[humble cairn]

You can prepare different spells during a Long Rest, but you don't rearrange your spell slots, you just regain them.

[tame estuary]

think of spell slots as marbles on the table

[humble cairn]

Are you using the 2014 or 2024 rules?

[tame estuary]

it's easier to ask what level your paladin is

[storm magnet]

2024 I believe

I'm lvl 6

[glass granite]

You can change one prepared spell per long rest

[tame estuary]

at level 6 you have 4 lv1 marble and 2 lv2 marble

[humble cairn]

Ok here's the section on casting spells: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/spells#Spells

[humble cairn]

And here's the section on Paladin: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/character-classes#Paladin

Check out those rules so you know how it all works.

[tame estuary]

when you expand one of your spell slots, take away one marble and when you long rest you get all your marbles back

[storm magnet]

Okay I'm glad I ran into this mistake for something minor like Smite, I got a lot of learning to do

[humble cairn]

The rules are free and available to read online, check them out!

[glass granite]

Failure is the forefather of success, and also a piece of #%#%

[remote wadi]

Thoughts on having the first 3 maneuvers learned be trip attack, parry, and feint attack?

[tame estuary]

did you not get answers in #optimization ?

[glass granite]

Personally I like disarming

[tame estuary]

8/10 times you're asking something that should be asked there, sorry

[glass granite]

Is this about optimisation tho? I feel like this is closer to #character-discussion

Which, tbh, is really where these should be going

[remote wadi]

Those seemed like a good 3 to start off with, but idk if one should be swapped for Rispote

[tame estuary]

how long till you get the subclass?

[remote wadi]

I'm saying when/if I do play the character

[humble cairn]

This is for a 2024 BM?

[remote wadi]

Because I don't exactly want disarming strike, and things like pushing the enemy away an already be done 5 feet with the Crusher feat

[remote wadi]

Yes. Weapon is likely a reflavored maul

[tame estuary]

if you don't want disarming strike, then don't

easy as pie

disarming strike is also situational, you're fighting monsters a lot of the time

[remote wadi]

So needing to push the enemy is easy with crusher. Disarming the enemy is just harder than taking the weapon off a dead body

[humble cairn]

Choice of Manuevers is so versatile that i'ts more about what your specific character's style is than what is "best."

[tame estuary]

I'd honestly take commanding pressence

[remote wadi]

So the first 3 seem good. Trip attack means I can have 2 chances to trip the enemy combined with mastery
Parry means I can weaken incoming damage by a considerable margin
And feint means next attack is at advantage plus a d12 to damage at the cost of a bonus action

[remote wadi]

Which those 3 would make sense either way for wielding a kanabo (reflavored maul)

[tame estuary]

the maul's own weapon mastery fits the kanobo

[humble cairn]

How do you want your character to fight?

[remote wadi]

Trips, parries, and feinting attacks would all make sense thematically

[remote wadi]

I can't send pictures, but you know what a kanabo is?

[humble cairn]

I do know what a kanabo is, yes. I'm asking what kind of fighting personality you want this character to have.

[remote wadi]

Well, at level 3
Mostly being able to tank a few attacks, deal a few attacks, but also have options to make mine more effective and the reverse for theirs

My question at the time was "Would it be thematical or effective to swap out one of the maneuvers with Rispote? And if so, which and why?

[tame estuary]

you're like switching here, from what is good and what is thematically approriate. from what why character is like and what I should make my character like to fit the mechanic

[humble cairn]

You already have Topple on the weapon, but if you add Frightened on top of it you compound the Disadv, even if they are standing, and you can control their positioning.

[nocturne lava]

Uhh I’m new what do I do

[humble cairn]

Check out #learn-to-play

[tame estuary]

#dnd-newcomers

[nocturne lava]

Ok sorry to interrupt

[remote wadi]

Oh, right. Then i guess is there a limit to how often masteries are applied? Or is it every attack?

[humble cairn]

Depends on the Mastery.

[tame estuary]

once per turn I think?

[remote wadi]

Topple

[humble cairn]

Topple is every hit.

But once they're Prone, Topple doesn't matter anymore.

[remote wadi]

So yeah. Trip Attack becomes redundant as I level up

[glass granite]

Indeed

[storm magnet]

I realize it's hard to use my breath attack with a party in a big fight

[glass granite]

Commanders strike is fun if you have a rogue I suppose

[humble cairn]

I feel like Parry, Riposte, and Goading would be a nice package for someone who wants to stand there and "tank" enemies.

[knotty pasture]

Its best to have stuff like Alert for these situations, the earlier you move the less likely everyone's caught up in friendly fire

[umbral girder]

Just remember a target being prone will also give Ranged Weapon attacks disadvantage on hitting them

[tame estuary]

remember that you can always use it outside of fights

[storm magnet]

Like making a poison loogie to spit into a drink?

[tame estuary]

anything you want yes

[storm magnet]

What are the properties of poison breath exactly? Is it slime or gas?

Or sludge

[tame estuary]

anything you can talk to the DM into letting you let it be

[humble cairn]

Evasive Footwork + Disarming Attack could be useful to breeze past the enemy frontline and make the caster in back drop their casting focus.

[tame estuary]

also poison? shouldn't it be acid?

[storm magnet]

How come

[remote wadi]

That could be an option too

What about Parry, Trip, and Goading at level 3, level 7 can be both gaining commanding presence and swapping trip for Rispote

[tame estuary]

I was in the assumption this is the dragonborn breath weapon

[storm magnet]

Yeah it is

[knotty pasture]

Yeah I swear Dragonborns have acid breath not poison breath

[glass granite]

Just wondering why trip is useful when you have topple

[tame estuary]

there are no poison dragons

[humble cairn]

Trip is fairly redundant with a Topple weapon, honestly.

Especially on a fighter, you have so many attacks to try and get them prone.

[storm magnet]

Idk my sheet says it does poison damage

[humble cairn]

Riposte is better when you have high AC.

[tame estuary]

dndbeyond?

[humble cairn]

There absolutely are dragons that have poison breath, Green Dragons.

[storm magnet]

Yeah

[tame estuary]

sigh.. lemme look it up

ok

they are an exception it seems. black dragons do acid and green dragons do poison

[remote wadi]

It could be, yes. But that means that until I hit level 5, it'll be one attack a turn. Once I hit level 7, I could have more attacks and better AC. So topple would be more helpful and Trip less needed, thus easy to swap out for Rispote/Commanding presence and then just take the other for the level up

[humble cairn]

Green Dragons are one of the classical D&D Dragon types, not an exception.

[tame estuary]

oh now I get it, brass and gold dragons both do fire

[remote wadi]

The way I see it, when needing only one to succeed, going from one chance to 2 is a bigger change than going from 2 to 3-4

[glass granite]

I could see it if you really wanna get something prone, I just personally wouldn’t grab it

[umbral girder]

Yes there is

[remote wadi]

Just to make early games have more trips

[tame estuary]

I'm used to having a dragon of each type and there's 10 of them so there's a type for chromatic and metallic

[umbral girder]

Green dragons are part of the core 5 Chromatic Dragons after all

[tame estuary]

so there's only 4 metallic dragon elements that's interesting

[remote wadi]

If something is already prone, then I can just attack normally. Once something is up, I can either parry if it attacks me or Goading if a teammate needs protection

[tame estuary]

I mean getting out of prone is super easy

[remote wadi]

Doesn't mean getting them into prone is easy either

[umbral girder]

Plus the enemy being prone nerfs your teammates who use ranged attacks

[humble cairn]

I prefer Menacing over Goading, because it means Disadv to attacking anyone even you.

[remote wadi]

That's a good point. Besides, thinking on it a little more, he would definitely choose to intimidate over taunt

[tame estuary]

ambush is also really really good

[remote wadi]

It would also use my Charisma modifier, yes?

[tame estuary]

initiative matters yo

[remote wadi]

That would be higher than usual with this character

[glass granite]

What would?

[remote wadi]

Menacing strike?

[tame estuary]

no

[glass granite]

Nah, still your Dex or strength

[remote wadi]

Wait, it would use Dex or Str?

[tame estuary]

Saving Throws. If a maneuver requires a saving throw, the DC equals 8 plus your Strength or Dexterity modifier (your choice) and Proficiency Bonus.

[remote wadi]

That is... pretty surprising

[tame estuary]

why would it be?

[glass granite]

It’s the case for most saves. Like strength saves for spells still go off the spellcasting modifier for the DC

[tame estuary]

most subclass features use the same things throughout

unless you're monk and you flip a coin

[remote wadi]

Earlier character I used had lackluster Charisma. But I would imagine seeing someone lose their head privileges nearly instantly would scare the crap out of you

Brain went "Charisma for Intimidation. Why not combat prowess for intimidation for that character?"

[knotty pasture]

There's not really a lot of cha saves if at all in the game combat wise

[tame estuary]

a skill is a skill to make the checks better or not, it doesn't make slicing someone else's head less scary

[jovial shadow]

Wisdom is the Monk's modifier

[knotty pasture]

By default its just auto assumed to be a wis save usually

[glass granite]

But some saves, like tripping and grappling, is Dex.

[remote wadi]

Wisdom for the save, but Intimidation is affected by Chr, yes?

[knotty pasture]

Yes but intimidation =/= fear in this context

[tame estuary]

are we talkin about the maneuver or the skill check?

[remote wadi]

A little strange why it wouldn't be, but fair enough

[knotty pasture]

Intimidation is strictly a social skill, fear is a debuff separate from your intimidation proficiency/charisma

[tame estuary]

the maneuver would use your maneuver stat, the skill check would do the skill check

[knotty pasture]

I refer to this

[remote wadi]

Basically how intimidating someone isn't the same as making them fearful

[tame estuary]

again, what context are we talking this about

[jovial shadow]

Sorry I thought we were talking about spell casting modifier. That's why I said Monk's Wisdom midifer, when the flip a coin thing came up. But I see you folks are talking more in general

[remote wadi]

Menacing strike using Str modifer for the DC surprised me a bit

[knotty pasture]

I thought we were talking about menacing strike

[tame estuary]

if you were to use the menacing stike maneuver, it would use str or dex. if you were not and just making a skill check, you use cha

[remote wadi]

We were. Then I got surprised from something that was a little unexpected by me

[tame estuary]

yeah and I said that all subclass features only use one thing, smh

[knotty pasture]

No you said (insert background noise here) /s

[tame estuary]

the subclass won't ask you to invest in other stats for optional features

even if it "makes sense"

[knotty pasture]

Fun fact, Assassin Rogue wants to stack Cha as their third stat, even though charisma has nothing to do with stereotypically poking people to death

[cloud copper]

hope yall had a happy new year, going back to 5E this year after playing DCC for the last year and a half and I’m nervous

[bronze wave]

Why?

I figured their third stat would be Wis if any

Most common save and best checks

[potent siren]

some of the assassin features tie into acting and decieving by impersonating other individuals, thats probably mainly why

[knotty pasture]

Yea

[bronze wave]

The only thing I can think of is the disguise kit which sure?

I don’t feel that’s at all integral to the subclass tho

[potent siren]

if you dont use it then sure

[bronze wave]

I still would place Wis 3rd

That is a super niche use of smth lol

[knotty pasture]

You say that but Assassin has a massive gap between its actual combat perks lol

You gain advantage vs targets that haven't taken a turn + 100% crits on surprised enemies at level 3

And then its straight to 2x damage vs surprised enemies on a failed con saving throw at level 17

You spend a lot more time getting abilities that have something to do with impersonating people between that 14 level gap

[potent siren]

2024 rogue lvl 3 feature isnt quite as good, but you get at least some combat stuff at every subclass feature after that

so probably easier to avoid the social aspects of assassin in that regard

[stark tundra]

Should I make a dwarf with alpaca

[potent siren]

Better question is, why should you not!

[stark tundra]

True true

And his father is gonna have the most glorious of beards

[potent siren]

maybe even the Llamas have been bred to have majestic beards!

[stark tundra]

Yes

Everyone but him even children have better beards

13
12
13
13
11
12

Rolled his stats and well

[lavish flame]

2014 regular Human, to the rescue!!!

[stark tundra]

Nope he's a dwarf with alopecia

I spelt it wrong the first time my bad

His name is egraz

[potent siren]

what class ya doin?

[stark tundra]

Artificer

[small ether]

Hey so im looking for a online dnd anyone getting a party together

[stark tundra]

Thinking of making him someone who the dwarfs wanted to be heard and not seen because being unable to grow a beard is a no no in some lore

And that's how I'm running it so he was basically a blacksmith and boat builder

#find-a-game

[wary meadow]

Guys I just fell asleep and it made me think of a campaign

The basic idea is that there’s some kind of magic clock and a villain used it to revert my players ages and That reduces their stats so they have to revert back to their normal ages By Finding the clock

[glass granite]

Would the party members not wanna live longer?

People would kill for the ability to extend lifespan

[knotty pasture]

How much are their ages reverted as well, like dropping an Elf's age from 400 to 200 years doesn't actually mean much

[hoary totem]

Campaign idea: Every party member is working at some sort of magical creature reserve to protect and research various magical creatures. Something makes the magical creatures start going, well, wild, and absolutely whack, and the party has to find out who or what, while fighting and calming any affected creatures along the way

If anyone is gonna ask if it's just Pokemon Legends ZA, it... basically is

[wary meadow]

I’ll figure it out depending on their race and class

[wary meadow]

Yeah there is a lot of plot holes

Sure I’ll figure em out though

[small ether]

I mean it could also steal something else then age

[wary meadow]

True

[small ether]

Like something they want to gain back being a memory or something that is valuable to them

[wary meadow]

Yeah I’ll figure it out not 3:30 am when I’m supposed to be asleep for work tmrw lol

[quaint bear]

Guys what should my HP be

I think I will be a wizard for my character

[still plover]

Wizards start with 6 HP, plus your Constitution modifier.

[humble cairn]

Here you go: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character#Level1HitPointsbyClass

[stark tundra]

Y'all wanna see egraz

I got his sheet done

[quaint bear]

Now my hp modifer is 6 and override is 6

Thanks guys

[stark tundra]

Yel

[small ether]

I was going to say like 11

[quaint bear]

My character might not look like wizard but he a wizard

[still plover]

Why did you use the override? If the class is set to Wizard on DDB it'll do it automatically.

[stark tundra]

Is there a spot I can post it

[quaint bear]

Oh I put the class in after

I might be a little special but I do what I gotta do

[still plover]

#character-discussion is a good place for it. If it's a sheet on Beyond set it to public visibility and share the link. Otherwise you can use a reputable fileshare like OneDrive or Google and share the link like that - be sure to note what it is you're linking to.

[stark tundra]

Oh I have a screenshot of just the first sheet

[quaint bear]

Anyways im haopy wizard can have 6 spells defo putting in fireball AND defo putting in thunder spell

I need to work on my drawing skills of wizards

[still plover]

You know you don't get fireball until level five, right?

[quaint bear]

Mmmm I will work on the drawing LATER he just need a robe

[quaint bear]

… what so I can’t be like the stranger things kid

Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn i can’t beat vecna no more💔😭✌️

[knotty pasture]

Just use fire bolt or something

It ain't the same but its honest work

[stark tundra]

You can technically kill vecna with a cantrip

[quaint bear]

Ok im a little stupid but im gonna blame it on the fact im a little baby I can barely understand this shi but my brain will figure it out

[knotty pasture]

I mean you could just set your character level to something else, no need to keep it at level 1

I don't think the characters in Stranger Things are level 1 when they are fighting Vecna at least

[stark tundra]

Yeah I'm guessing somewhere around level 10

Just they don't have to show you all the goblins they had to fight to get there

I posted him in the hero forge page

[still plover]

That doesn't go there, and why do you have all 13s for ability scores? You're under par for your spellcasting stat, you'll get no particular advantage from being at +1 across the board, and being all odd numbers you're actively reducing your potential bonuses.

[stark tundra]

Oh simple I rolled 4 13s and a 12 and 11

[remote wadi]

People usually assume standard array unless specified otherwise, just a heads up

[still plover]

So you could have had a pair of 14s which could have gone into your spellcasting stat (Intelligence) and either Dexterity (for AC) or Constitution (for HP and concentration checks).

[stark tundra]

Oh I'm a DM this is for boredom I've been playing for a good long time but appreciate the help

[remote wadi]

No problem

Also, I just arrived. What's the convo about?

[stark tundra]

Oh I have a dwarf with alopecia named him egraz

[remote wadi]

I see. Was there something you needed help with?

[stark tundra]

Nope just showing him off

I mean if you got any spell suggestions

[still plover]

#character-discussion is always open.

[stark tundra]

True true

[austere quartz]

wsgg ppl

[lone vine]

Sup

[austere quartz]

just chillin, new to the game as well

[lone vine]

How new are you ? Days, weeks or months ?

[austere quartz]

I'm only a day into dnd 😭🙏

[lone vine]

crazy

[austere quartz]

Looks fun tho

And overwhelming

[lone vine]

It sure is fun (especially when i throw at my players a boss which has 18 AC and 200 HP, they are lvl 10)

[austere quartz]

Idk what that means but hell yeah!

[indigo cedar]

Boss monsters became fun when I got Flee Mortals. Their solo monsters are great

[lone vine]

It means the party will be empty soon

[lone vine]

I got a peak spell called doom prepared for Final boss. Just a 2x d100 on dmg :p

total of 2 uses for boss, fair for players or na ?

[indigo cedar]

I mean, it can do anywhere between 1 to 100 damage so its not that good really

two unlucky rolls and the spell will feel kinda pointless for a boss fight

[austere quartz]

Y'all know where I can get started with a campaign?

[still plover]

Check the listings in #looking-for-players for games that want people, read the details, respond as appropriate and cross your fingers.

Type /looking and select the option for #looking-for-dm to advertise yourself as a new player in search of a group. Be sure to include your regular availability!

There are other Discord servers where people gather for games. You can find them in #looking-for-community .

Aside from here, you could also try LFG areas in sites like Reddit, Roll20 or the D&D Beyond forums to get started.

[indigo cedar]

two high rolls and you can in worst case kill two PC's

[still plover]

How many players?

[lone vine]

Well.. giem a sec and imma tell you what the boss can do.
Alr so... the boss has 300 HP and 14 AC.
The boss uses Fireballs / Chromatic orbs / doom / End of the World spell

[lone vine]

should be 5 rn

nvm its 4. One guy left cuz he kinda got wiped

[still plover]

I'm not sure that AC 18 HP 200 boss is going to last as long as you imagine against four level tens.

[stark tundra]

Yeah 4 level 10s is nuts

[lone vine]

Before they reach it they will probably lvl up 2 times at least

[knotty pasture]

Hold Monster + focus fire can take down this boss quite easily

[lone vine]

Also i have to make it hard cuz they picked the Hell level difficulty for the campaign

[lone vine]

Boss is boss, there is more then just 1 opponent

20 skeletons with 40 or so HP and 12 AC :p

nvm, 20 HP

[tired harbor]

Yo I got a weird question.
Is any running a one piece home brew campaign?

[indigo cedar]

SO a few well placed fireballs and all skeletons are gone

[trail meadow]

How to be dungeon master?

[lone vine]

1. use imagination

2. Improvise

[knotty pasture]

Pick a campaign, read guides on how to dm, spend some time prepping, let's go

[lone vine]

prep time? never heard of it

[indigo cedar]

level 10 is extremely powerful in 5e terms when it comes to player character power,

[lone vine]

Wait till they see the 2nd phase of the boss

[knotty pasture]

It shouldn't be pure improvise at least, think of the dungeon maps etc you have to prepare unless its pure theatre of the mind

[lone vine]

Ah, i got plenty of maps , ambients and visuals prepared then.

[indigo cedar]

do you have the actual statblock of the boss?

[lone vine]

:p
Ima just write whole stuff here for that boss.

Champion: Phase 1
HP: 110
AC: 15
Attack: 1x d20 +1x d8 +3
Movement: 30

Phase 2 Champion:
HP: 200
AC: 14
Attack: 1x D20 + 1x d12 + 2
Movement: 40
Bonus: Alert

Those are just basics. Before they get to it imma and few things

[burnt valley]

RAIMU (Rules As I Make Up)

Use Imagination

[indigo cedar]

what classes are the players?

[lone vine]

Paladin , Blood Hunter , Rogue and mage

[remote wadi]

HP seems pretty high for being that low of AC

[lone vine]

They kinda picked the difficulty themselfs

[knotty pasture]

Eh if anything I feel like the hp is too low considering the AC, AC should be higher at least

[lone vine]

Noted.

[burnt valley]

Is it gonna be a melee boss?

[humble cairn]

What kind of mage? That's not one of the classes. Wizard? Sorcerer?

[knotty pasture]

18 AC should make this a good fight

[lone vine]

Wizard

[remote wadi]

I was saying one or the other

Either HP should not be that high (idk the level)
Or the AC is pretty low while the level is high

[lone vine]

Yup

[knotty pasture]

Four level 10s can easily take down a 200 hp mob lol, you can go even higher if its a gimmick fight

[lone vine]

I gotta make this hard cuz they can get a legeendary item if they win

[burnt valley]

You need more damage than that tbh, also increase the HP and AC as well

[lone vine]

Say less

[knotty pasture]

300-400 hp, 18 AC perhaps

[indigo cedar]

200 hp against a group of 4 level 10 isn't going to last long

[lone vine]

for Phase 2 ? or 1 ?

[remote wadi]

Wait, level 10??

[knotty pasture]

Phase 2, phase 1 is whatever

[indigo cedar]

2014 or 2024 rules?

[burnt valley]

350 HP 3d12 damage with a three attack multiattack

[knotty pasture]

But feel free to double the hp for phase 1 as well

[lone vine]

mainly 2024, but we sometimes add those from 2014 if it seems interesting

[knotty pasture]

3d12 isn't that much damage from a boss?

[indigo cedar]

how is the smite from paladin working?

[burnt valley]

it's not?

[remote wadi]

Average damage is less than 20

[knotty pasture]

If its a challenging fight it definitely isn't, I think my characters' hp were in the 80s around that level

[burnt valley]

even with three attacks(multiattack)?

[knotty pasture]

Oh wait I thought you meant the multiattack is 3 attacks total, 1d12 each

If its 3 attacks, 3d12 each that's a different story

[remote wadi]

Ah. That makes sense

[indigo cedar]

The 20 skeletons that are planned unless theya re placed at distanmce from each other will be easily removed from combat with a few fireballs from the mage

[remote wadi]

3d12 each attack

[knotty pasture]

3 attacks doing 3d12 each as a last stand attack would be quite cool

[indigo cedar]

I have ran similar setups with many smaller monsters to help the boss and unless you go really tactical on placement and roles they never last long

[burnt valley]

Dont be afraid to give it extra effects for the 2nd phase, maybe Stunned condition on hit when below bloodied

[remote wadi]

It sounds pretty balanced to me. Paladin health at level 10 is what? 60 bare minimum?

[burnt valley]

also increase its speed to 40-50

[indigo cedar]

more like 84 to 100

[remote wadi]

2 questions, then

[indigo cedar]

then add con midfier that can boost it by a lot

[remote wadi]

Is starting HP 10 + Con modifer (if not, what is it?)

[lone vine]

Alright, updated stats for lvl 11 players and thier lovely champion to fight:

Champion: Phase 1
HP: 200
AC: 15
Attack: 1x d20 +3x d8 +3
Movement: 40
1x Attack

Phase 2 Champion:
HP: 320
AC: 18
Attack: 1x D20 + 2x d12 + 5
Unarmed Strike: +8 on hit
Unarmed Strike (Mike tyson special): 2xd 20
Movement: 35
2x Attacks
Bonus: Alert

Why this? Let them have a hard time or sum

Reward: Legendary item made my DM for players classes

[knotty pasture]

Excellent

[indigo cedar]

the average roills before con is added should be around 91 If I remembver correctly

[meager fractal]

120ish tbh

[knotty pasture]

Now that seems like a respectable fight

[lone vine]

Wait till they get to Final boss

[remote wadi]

Ahh. Max hit die + con

[knotty pasture]

Average hp for a 14 con Paladin is 84 hp at level 10 for the record

[remote wadi]

So Paladin at level 10 would be closer to 80-90

[knotty pasture]

The hardest bosses I know are often gimmick fights, where it punishes players for not packing spells they probably should for the fight

[burnt valley]

Is your entire party ranged combatants btw?

[lone vine]

Noted. Final boss hp will be moved from 780 to higher.

[knotty pasture]

Bosses with a ton of hp/attack isn't as threatening meanwhile cuz brute forcing them will eventually work out

[lone vine]

Wait till the boss summons skeletons

[knotty pasture]

No that's not what I mean by gimmicks lol

Summons are easily countered with control spells which is kind of combat 101 anyways

[indigo cedar]

before adjusting HP we kinda need to see thew entire statblock with all phases, because atm you are above 1300 hp in total, and tbh that is kinda crazy

[burnt valley]

It will be fatal for melee characters tho

[remote wadi]

Not to mention boss fights that allow for some creativity when fighting are more engaging than effectively bullet sponges

[knotty pasture]

Tbh its the melee characters that have the easiest time, they just need to go around and pick off mooks that can disrupt concentration on the spellcasters

[lone vine]

Final boss has only 1 phase. Also last boss i fought as player had 2300 hp (it was kraken and i was lvl 8)

[indigo cedar]

you basically are creating a massive bag of hitpoints, why not have it use interesting abilities instead of a ton of hp

[knotty pasture]

2300 hp boss sounds like an absolute slog

[lone vine]

:p

[indigo cedar]

you fought a kraken at level 8 and won?

[lone vine]

5 more party members.

[knotty pasture]

Aspect of Tiamat (a literal god) has 574 hp...

[indigo cedar]

still...

[remote wadi]

Even at level 20, that sounds like hell. Almost double a Terrasque's HP

[lone vine]

total of 6 players. Also we had a gunship on our side from which we could fire

[burnt valley]

there has to be a macguffin to weaken the Kraken there's no way

[indigo cedar]

so the gunship did the majority of the job

[knotty pasture]

Its boring is what it is, combat comes down to surviving long enough before you run out of resources

[lone vine]

Yes and no, we kinda blew the kraken from inside with tnt.

5 players remaining.

1 sacrificed

[knotty pasture]

I think one of the hardest boss fights I had was one where the mooks can turn invis at the end of each turn as a BA

[lone vine]

;-;

[knotty pasture]

So it wasn't the boss that was hard (nothing hold monster can't solve) but the mooks that would hit like 25-30 per turn per mook while we can't really fight back, and I didn't pack anti invis gimmicks

[lone vine]

Good idea with the invisibility, i will borrow it

[burnt valley]

The hardest fight i could've had was in AL, where there was a module where you fight a bunch of Cloud Giant(basically guaranteed TPKs) and the DM had to sandbag abit to not use Thundercloud, the objective was to stop this Cloud Giant from escaping and leaving with the mcguffin

[knotty pasture]

Really punishes players for not running Faerie Fire or See Invisibility/True Seeing, would have made the whole fight super easy

[quaint bear]

Chat what is the best wizard tributes as a beginner wizard

[burnt valley]

would AOEs work?

[remote wadi]

Would Guiding Bolt have worked?

[burnt valley]

divination

[knotty pasture]

No it doesn't reveal invis for starters, and guiding bolt can't target an invis target

[quaint bear]

I mean traits

[burnt valley]

No

[remote wadi]

Ouch

[quaint bear]

I mean traits mb chat✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️

[knotty pasture]

The answer is either aoe spells (but you can't really throw aoe spells when they surrounded you in a circle) or simply just anti invis measures

[remote wadi]

And that's why gimmick battles are very fun, but need to be ultra fine tuned

[quaint bear]

2 best wizard traits

[knotty pasture]

If you didn't pack those you done goofed, I think I was basically TPK'd then

[burnt valley]

you mean species traits or feats

[quaint bear]

Traits class features

[remote wadi]

And you can only swap out spells during a long rest, too...

Yeah, that sounded terrible

[knotty pasture]

You can as Cleric, Druid, Wizard, Paladin

But my team had none of those lol, was something like Barb/Rogue/Sorc/Warlock

[remote wadi]

Can do what, exactly? Change it outside of a long rest?

[lone vine]

Ever heard of 3 bards in a party and 1 fighter ?

[remote wadi]

I want to try an all Cleric team sometime

[knotty pasture]

Wait my bad you can't

[lone vine]

Ngl that would be fun, full heal, annoying enemies.

[knotty pasture]

I mean you can do 3 Bards 1 Fighter

[lone vine]

I did.

[remote wadi]

Got the perfect name for the team too

[lone vine]

OooOoo tell me

[stark tundra]

The amen

[remote wadi]

You ruined it...

[stark tundra]

Its a good name

Forgive me I've heard that cleric joke a lot

[knotty pasture]

4 Cleric parties are definitely ones I wanna try or check out

[remote wadi]

Yeah, it's still funny. Cracked me uo the first time

[burnt valley]

Oh no lol

[knotty pasture]

Have them all believe in opposing gods, their biggest challenge is now to not poison each other in their sleep by the end of the week

A task harder than beating any final boss in any campaign

[remote wadi]

Probably one of/the only exception i don't mind having more than one class in. They are just that versatile in their class

[burnt valley]

It'll be like one of the strongest parties lol

[quaint bear]

Should I do arcane and medicine as class feature trait

[lone vine]

I'm kinda curious, what was the largest party you took part in ?

[knotty pasture]

4

[quaint bear]

Profeincy I mean

[lone vine]

Ah

[knotty pasture]

Actually no I think I tried a 6-7 man party before but it was short lived

[burnt valley]

you can go up to 8 players in adventurer's league

[knotty pasture]

Not really that fun either tbh

[quaint bear]

Idk what the best proficiency is

[knotty pasture]

Only class you probably shouldn't stack is Paladin, mostly cuz their auras don't stack

[remote wadi]

Bards would be... idk about that one

But monks are also another interesting one

[burnt valley]

Four monks sound like pain

[stark tundra]

Yes I can bring out Kane he's a tempest cleric of thor

[knotty pasture]

Bards aren't too bad

Sword and Valor don't overlap with other Bard subclasses that much

[stark tundra]

4 barbarians

[remote wadi]

On the plus side, accounting for armor costs is a breeze

[burnt valley]

Spellcaster enemies gg :c

[knotty pasture]

Four Barbs is funny as hell, there's a shitpost video about 4 Halfling Barbs terrorizing Faerun

[remote wadi]

Mage Slayer

[lone vine]

I have a friend playing barbarian, it suits him. The same brain cap.

[knotty pasture]

The answer to most problems is simply to be a murder hobo

[burnt valley]

Once per long rest, they will shrimply cast it again or the other caster casts it again

[stark tundra]

Wait I know

4 warlocks

[lone vine]

🙏

[burnt valley]

Peak

[stark tundra]

They could cover most of the Eldritch evocations

[remote wadi]

I was saying the feat. Once they get close, it's a problem

[knotty pasture]

And okay look it was short lived cuz I think one of them was a one shot which ended before the story was even concluded, the other was LMoP which ended after the first dungeon cuz the DM got a new job

[quaint bear]

Any wizards can tell me the 2 best proficiency befoee I regret it

[burnt valley]

4 warlocks can help eachother use planar binding for celestial/fiend summons

[stark tundra]

For eb

[knotty pasture]

Four Warlocks is good, you just sit back and ebarb your way to victory

[timber turtle]

Can you be a dwarf yuan'ti?

[burnt valley]

EBARB + Repelling Blast + Lance of Lethargy >>>>> Weapon masteries

[remote wadi]

Ebarb?

[quaint bear]

This feels likes trying understand any other language

[stark tundra]

4 level 18 warlocks that would be hell

[burnt valley]

eldritch blast agonizing blast repelling blast

[remote wadi]

Gotcha

[stark tundra]

18 Eldritch blasts

In one go round

[burnt valley]

Focus fire is truly king

One of them takes ritual caster and gives everyone phantom steed

[remote wadi]

4 fighters. Many attacks

[stark tundra]

Yeah

[knotty pasture]

Just spam ebarb and set up Hunger of Hadar + Sleet Storm or something

[still plover]

It's a magical world! But generally you only get to pick one set of species features.

Personally I'm pretty open to the idea of putting a different face on things (orcs with the bonuses of dwarves, say) but your DM may vary.

[knotty pasture]

Because of how little spells you need to set up a death zone you just cycle through spell slots between your Warlocks and get them all back on a short rest

[burnt valley]

So not only they have 100ft of movement for kiting, they have the best cantrip in the game with extra effects and access to true polymorph

[timber turtle]

I mean like the yuan'ti half blood race

[stark tundra]

I mean elf's and dwarfs used to mix to make something called a dwelf

[knotty pasture]

Unfortunately all we have now are Half Elves or Strongheart Halflings

[stark tundra]

I mean half orcs

[knotty pasture]

(Stronghearts are rumored to have Dwarven ancestry, so they're basically half Dwarves)

Orc is its own race

[still plover]

This says (https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Yuan-ti_malison) body mass and size in the human range. So it's between you and your DM to figure out.

[knotty pasture]

Hmm let me think, which classes would make the funniest 4-6 man monoclass team

[stark tundra]

Half orcs are a race in 5e

[slender gyro]

All possible ways to enter and escape forcecage for a martial class??? (Shapeshiftings. Magical items)

[remote wadi]

Species, you could make it an all dwarf team

[slender gyro]

Stuff that breaks it also apply as long as it's not a spell