dnd-discussion

[gilded scaffold]

If the wings aren't functional, then it would be hard to argue against unless your DM had a good personal lore reason. If they're functional, that's trickier. Flight can seriously affect balance.

[thorn warren]

Fair and valid

[void fossil]

For the marathon, sleep to style, Wade Allen is a good go to

[thorn warren]

Ah, okay

[timber zealot]

Ohhh I see, so basically if they actually fly it’s a big deal, but just for flavor it’s chill. That’s kinda cool, I like the incubus inspiration

[zinc hare]

Awesome sauce

[thorn warren]

That's what the race description says a chthonic tiefling could have the appearance of

[gilded scaffold]

If you had gliding wings giving the effect of feather fall, you could make a case for that to be a replacement for a spell-like ability of similar power, but rules as written, no.

[thorn warren]

I can screenshot DDB if needed

[void fossil]

I don't stick to humor ones but some good ones who still are active are Hour of the Raven, Riches and Liches and the other 2 I mentioned

[thorn warren]

Alright

[lyric viper]

It says they have some physical features in similarity, but doesn't specifiy wings

[thorn warren]

That's why I'm asking

[timber zealot]

Ah sweet, thanks! I’ll start with those. Are they mostly lore deep-dives or do they throw in some jokes too?

[rotund shell]

Functional wings are not part of the species, so it is homebrew and thus a question for your DM. If it's just flavor (nonfunctional wings), then there shouldn't be a problem.

[lyric viper]

Wings would be a very much mechanical thing. If they could have wings, the game would be careful to state that, as it'd give a fly speed.

[thorn warren]

I was just taking physical features of an incubus, I wasn't going for flight necessarily

[thorn warren]

I was thinking broken wings that couldn't fly

Cuz the race doesn't actually have a fly speed

[void fossil]

Others could give you recommendations for the humorous ones but Pointy Hat might work for you

[lyric viper]

Note that is specifies 'Uneathly beauty' of a succbus, not 'the limbs and abilities' of them.
Tieflings in 2014 had a winged varient that replaced other mechanical features for balance.

Overall, tieflings in 2024 don't actually have wings. You could ask for non-functioning wings, for flavour for sure, but that's not actually a given from a text. Not a bad way to interpret it, but not what it actually says.

[timber zealot]

Ah nice, Pointy Hat sounds cool Mostly lore, or do they throw in some jokes too?

[void fossil]

He's not a lore guy but rather gives thoughts about different classes

[thorn warren]

Oh, my bad. I must've misread things with my dyslexic eyes.

I did just ask my GM about the broken wings concept tho

[lyric viper]

This is more like if you wanted your tiefling to look more night haggish or more beautiful like a concubi. Maybe more animal like features from yuguloth.

Cthonic Tieflings could look really weird, although artwork so far seems to still favour the traitional 'Horns and unsuual skin tone' look.

[timber zealot]

Ahhh makes sense, more class advice than lore. Which ones does he usually focus on?

[gilded scaffold]

I'm generally pretty forgiving when it comes to variant character features, but 'my tiefling has functional wings' caused havoc for me as long ago as 2e...

[lyric viper]

I would love to see more unusual Cthonic Tieflings in art. Go back to the ol' 2e appearance tables.

[knotty pasture]

I'd rather the Tiefling have kind-of functional wings (rush the Fly spell asap as a spellcaster, which sprouts batlike wings on use)

[thorn warren]

My character does have the legs and snout of a arcanaloth

[void fossil]

He switches it up.

[knotty pasture]

There's a fantasy realized without going too far

[thorn warren]

I was thinking broken/torn wings

[gilded scaffold]

Oh yes, I wouldn't personally have a problem with that at all

[red steppe]

Class advice as in character concepts related to the class or mechanics?

[thorn warren]

I asked my GM

[gilded scaffold]

(And 'this character should fly, but actually their wings are damaged' is a known schtick back at least as far as Aerie in BG2.)

[thorn warren]

I just like the look of leathery bat wings that incubi/succubi have. And I think that feature would match on a Tiefling well

[gilded scaffold]

Me too. Always have.

[knotty pasture]

Yeah it would, as long as its mostly non functional

[gilded scaffold]

(Thinking of Fall-From-Grace in Planescape: Torment here.)

[knotty pasture]

Kind of interesting how Aasimars usually can't fly either, contrary to popular belief

[thorn warren]

I got the clear as long as it is flavor

[gilded scaffold]

Aylin is kind of a special case.

[thorn warren]

I've been dying to play a Planescape campaign

[timber zealot]

Ah nice, sounds like he keeps it interesting Have you learned any cool tricks from him so far?

[knotty pasture]

Outside of Protector Aasimar or choosing the Protective Wings or w/e its called on level 3 for MotM Aasimars

Aylin is definitely a Protector Aasimar

But then again Aylin is probably a Deva

[thorn warren]

Idk what show or game y'all are talking about

[gilded scaffold]

Deva in the more modern sense, yes. (I still associate devas with the 1e/2e meaning)

[knotty pasture]

Bg3

Aasimar just don't get permament flight lol

Let alone immortality for that matter

[void fossil]

Not really. I'm the type who likes to hunker down and use my own thoughts on character set ups but there's always room for improvement

[thorn warren]

Ah, I haven't played it yet. Don't got a good pc to run it

[void fossil]

You can play it on PS5 also

[thorn warren]

Yeah ik. They get flightless wings with the necrotic shroud ability

[edgy parcel]

Yo, runnimg a one shot in like an hour, anyone wanna join?

[knotty basin]

Yes they can? They have a fly speed

[tawdry sentinel]

Could just play a "dragonborn" and say it's a tiefling.

Give up your chassis for a breath weapon that's actually you channeling the power of the hells.

Temporary flight on 5.

Done.

[thorn warren]

I'm an Xbox player

[knotty pasture]

Only Protector Aasimar, Scourge and Fallen don't have a fly gimmick

[thorn warren]

In an hour? What rule set?

[knotty basin]

Is this 2014 or 2024

[edgy parcel]

5e

[knotty pasture]

2014

[lethal otter]

hoi

[void fossil]

Its on that as well

[thorn warren]

5e 2014 or 2024

[knotty pasture]

MotM Aasimar can only fly with Protective Wings on level 3

[thorn warren]

Really? I'll have to see if I can get if soon

[edgy parcel]

@thorn warren uh whats the difference...

[knotty pasture]

Eh I mean if the Tiefling is right there and the spell Fly isn't that rare...

[thorn warren]

A fair amount. The new rules have different rulings on crits and how spells work. Also some races got chopped in the new rules

[edgy parcel]

Then 2014

[knotty basin]

Oh, I was thinking of aarakocra

[void fossil]

I think BG3 is in my top 5 faves all times but that "mod" patch causes my PS5 to rev up my system like a race car and shuts the thing down 🙁

[thorn warren]

He isn't from the hells. He Chthonic, from Hades' realm which is different from the Nine Hells

[edgy parcel]

Can i dm u?

[thorn warren]

Sure

Thank you for asking first

[tawdry sentinel]

The points more about just take the species mechanics for whatever you want and slap the aesthetic and personality on top of it.

[knotty pasture]

I think its just overcomplicating things personally lol

[timber zealot]

Yeah, same here I like doing my own setups but learning new stuff is always fun

[thorn warren]

I was just thinking about a flavor thing.

[jovial badger]

wizards when they spend theyre entire lives studying spells and all forms of casting

and get one shot by a goblin with a stick

and this is why you play sorcerors or warlocks kids 🙂

[thorn warren]

Oof! Did that actually happen to you in a session?

[jovial badger]

my friend

[thorn warren]

Wow

[jovial badger]

i play sorceror

[jovial badger]

we're all level 1, a goblin rolled a crit on 1d4 (2d4) and got 4,4

[thorn warren]

Fair. I prefer warlock if I play a castor

[jovial badger]

8dmg to the 8hp wizard

[thorn warren]

Oof

[knotty basin]

Should of had con

[thorn warren]

Fr

[silver dock]

it ain't truly december until i get one of the students with a giant speaker rig on the back of their big bubba truck to replace their shitty country music with that mariah carey song

[thorn warren]

Ooof

That must suck big time

[silver dock]

it does suck

[jovial badger]

16 con 🥀

[silver dock]

why do i have to listen to country in the morning when they can be playing something ten times funnier

[knotty basin]

14 con is the minimum for most classes

16 on wizards isn’t a bad choice

[buoyant oar]

Weeping flower as if 16 is not a very decent constitution score.

[jovial badger]

we do point buy

[knotty basin]

So? I also do point buy

That’s what ability score increases are for

[buoyant oar]

A 16 is still a +3

[jovial badger]

yeah but 14 con isnt that necessary

[silver dock]

it's cold out here

[knotty basin]

Depends how hard your campaigns are

[jovial badger]

fair

[knotty basin]

I’ve been saved by my extra con twice in the past few sessions

[crimson gulch]

More con is allways a good idea, but sometimes it can't be done

[thorn warren]

So, I just tried sending a gif and it got eaten? Weird. But yeah, 16 +3 con for any castor isn't bad

[crimson gulch]

8 con casters have happened in a few of my games

[rotund shell]

gifs aren't allowed on the server.

[knotty basin]

That’s a good recipe for getting one shot at level 1

[thorn warren]

Weird

[knotty basin]

As demonstrated above

[jovial badger]

by a stick goblin

[buoyant oar]

To be honest any non-primary stat that's above 12 is good

[crimson gulch]

I one shot a 14 con caster a few weeks ago, Long sword crit and I rolled a pair of 8's

[knotty basin]

Sure, but it’s less likely and needs stronger enemies to do so

[jovial badger]

non primary?

[buoyant oar]

Most classes have a primary stat that they utilize barbarian strength, paladins charisma, wizard intelligence

[knotty basin]

Ones you use for your class

[real thunder]

Basically what's not the most needed one
For example the primary stat for druids is wisdom

[buoyant oar]

Depending upon your class, Constitution should always be your second or third priority

[past turtle]

Quick Question! There was the Homebrew Feat contest that happened on D&D Beyond last month, do you know if winner was selected? If this isn't the spot to ask said question, then where can I?

[buoyant oar]

They're usually decent about posting contest winners in the announcements channel. If it's not there, it's probably not done yet. There was just a major holiday weekend in the states. Nobody was working

[past turtle]

Fair point. Thank you

[jovial badger]

dex>class stat>con

[thorn warren]

Constitution give you a bonus to HP

No matter the class, it's always good to have decent con

[buoyant oar]

Dexterity is not the most important stat for all classes

[jovial badger]

well it gives you initiative, it gives AC

important for basically every class

[buoyant oar]

Ac is only important if you plan on being hit with melee or ranged weapon attacks

The primary defense stats for casters should always be their saving throws.

[pliant sapphire]

Class Stat > CON > DEX > WIS

[buoyant oar]

Not to mention, there are ways to increase your armor class much more readily available to most classes outside of the dexterity stat

[knotty basin]

Wis?

[pliant sapphire]

Wisdom

[jovial badger]

wis?

[knotty basin]

Why is wis important for non-casters

[buoyant oar]

Saving throws

[jovial badger]

why is wis important for anything besides druids and wizards

[buoyant oar]

Saving throws

[pliant sapphire]

To save 80% of painful effects

[jovial badger]

not wizards sorry my brain is fried

[crimson gulch]

Bandit with a Longsword or a light crossbow does this

[buoyant oar]

Wisdom always deserves some minor consideration considering the fact that as you level up and get more power, you're non-class-dependent stats tend to get neglected. And as spell saving throw DC's increase your chances of failure also increase exponentially if you are not a caster.

[knotty basin]

Again, still less likely

[jovial badger]

if you wanna talk abt saving throws lets talk abt dex

thats the main saving throws you gotta make unless youre facing a necromancer

[knotty basin]

Yeah, dex saves are more common than wisdom saves

[pliant sapphire]

DEX saving throws are 90% only damage. WIS saving thows deals damage and debuffs/disables you

[knotty basin]

And have other benefits

[hollow stone]

tbf like 95% of saves that happen are DEX or CON

[jovial badger]

ive never made a saving throw that isnt dex

[pliant sapphire]

I have to save more WIS ST than dex

[hollow stone]

i'd say only one in every twenty saves is ever anything else

[jovial badger]

in my current campaign

[pliant sapphire]

lol

[jovial badger]

we're about 14 hours in btw

[buoyant oar]

If you've never made a save and throw that isn't dexterity and you are being 100% good faith and truthful, then your DM needs a little bit more variety in their enemy abilities

[reef tundra]

Give it enough time, wisdom is a very common saving throw

[crimson gulch]

I have ran enough campaigns that I have run the whole gambit of saves, charisma is the least likely, but man does thst fairy pc want to save vs banishment

[jovial badger]

havent faced any magic enemies yet, its all goblins and skeletons

and 1 dragon

[jovial badger]

me and my +7 charisma save waiting for one to happen

[reef tundra]

Yeah, none of them (except for a few spellcaster dragons) would force wisdom saves

[buoyant oar]

If you've only played 14 hours of the game. Then there is no way to say that you have experienced even the base level default assumptions of a Dungeons& Dragons game. You're only what two to four sessions in?

[reef tundra]

At least you’ll have a good chance against spells like banishment

[hollow stone]

one of my groups only actually has the space for 2 hours so we only run 2 hour sessions, so that's like, 7 for us

[crimson gulch]

Just about any dragon can use fear, that's a wisdom save

[reef tundra]

Oh yes, I forgot.

[crimson gulch]

Everybody gangster till the mind flayers start forcing int saves

[knotty pasture]

Nah 14 dex is usually enough for all non-dex classes

Ideally you want 17 in your class stat and 14 in dex/con each

[snow agate]

I agree with this

Some saves like cha saves or int saves barely exist

[marble lion]

I have almost no wisdom saves because i avoid abilities that disable players

[snow agate]

A gracious overlord

[marble lion]

That will change now

[snow agate]

:c nvm

[marble lion]

Because they seem onboard with dnd enough to not lose interest in the game when losing a turn

[reef tundra]

When making my homebrew stat blocks I try to shine light on charisma saves or int saves

[marble lion]

But it used to just seem really dumb to me

[timber zealot]

Hyeee guys I'm back

Lol

[reef tundra]

Whenever I use spells like dominate person with my home group, sometimes I like to have them still play as their character when under the control of me

[marble lion]

The player you are trying to keep entertained waits 10 minutes for their turn, only to be unable to move closer to enemies or act at all, meaning they just have to wait 10 minutes again, even if they roll the save

[marble lion]

Yeah id say its the least boring one

Or not boring at all rather

[snow agate]

i think usually the saving throw issue is also incidental rather than intentional because most "monsters" do things like breathe fire or have poisonous bites or try to grab you or other forms of physical stuff

wisdom is the most common nonphysical because it includes fear

int and cha are just rare application

[marble lion]

I also kinda have some problems personally with some features that force wisdom saves

Fear and seduction specifically

If its completely magical i dont really mind but if the DM tells my character how they feel, im not happy at all

So i dont do it as DM

But again purely magical effects are fine

[snow agate]

aye i think its generally a bad idea unless its wholly magic yeah

it could be good to say "alright your character is frightened by (the dragon)" and let them roleplay how that manifests by themselves on their turn

[marble lion]

"You, level 7 hero, who already rescued 200 people from various horrors, cease to be badass and decide not to help your friends because youre scared now"

But magic is different because its not your own mind anymore

Its like getting an adrenaline injection vs just someone trying to scare you into adrenaline

No different than getting slammed by a hammer

[snow agate]

as a pf1e fan i appreciate that most frontline characters receive bonuses to wisdom saves or fear saves, you can suppress fear effects on your whole team with a level 1 spell, and you can also invest into the resistances if you want extra

[marble lion]

Its a compromise but not enough for me

If i want to play a stoic warlock, i want to do that

[glad arch]

Just be a paladin with +4 to all saves at level 7, easy

[marble lion]

No dm is telling me how i feel

[snow agate]

i am unfortunately certain that even stoics feel fear

[marble lion]

You know what i mean dont you

[snow agate]

mhm

[woven flint]

The Warforged programed to always be happy:
"Oh, No! :]"

[burnt valley]

how the blin do i add "+2 Charisma, +1 Intelligence" ability score modifiers for a homebrew species?

[minor cargo]

You'll want to add "speices traits" and look for "ability score increase".

If you want to see any example of it, you can try to create a species using a 2014 legacy version, like Orc or something.

#ddb-support can help with these kinds of questions in the future. ✌️

[burnt valley]

Ohh I see, thank you

[coarse ravine]

But aren't dragons innately magical?

[coarse ravine]

Yeah but undead makes you immune to frightened thats way different

[marble lion]

I dont mean undead warlock

I used an example that wasnt a frontliner to respond to the pf1 case

[marble lion]

Yes and thats fine if flavoured right with me

[crimson gulch]

Your charicters personality and roleplay dosent make you immune to status effects.

[marble lion]

Im aware of raw thank you

Only pointing out a personal dislike

[willow fossil]

When did Forge of the Artificer early access start? I just now noticed that I can access it

[coarse ravine]

Also fear and frightened are different

[marble lion]

Indeed

[coarse ravine]

Does fright come from fear? Maybe but I guess their different

Frightened definition is "afraid or anxious"

[coarse ravine]

So I get your character could be just anxious and dm tells ya your pissin your pants scared

I get what your saying.

[marble lion]

I just want that freedom to invent your character in that area of fantasy

[coarse ravine]

You do tho...

[marble lion]

If you wanna be unphased fantasy hero or jaded veteran, ill let you and if i wanna be one, i want to be able to be that

[coarse ravine]

Paladin level 10 frightened immunity

[marble lion]

Regardless of class

[coarse ravine]

Lots of ways to be immune for it thats technically "inventing"

[marble lion]

Raw doesnt allow this, no need to try

[coarse ravine]

I'm saying if ya wanta be the all seeing savant. Take blindsight... when the dm tells ya "you can't see a creature" you pop off with "but my character sees everything"

Theirs ways to invent what ya want... build the character you want

If frightened is a big no no... then take the routes to never be frightened

[marble lion]

Thats a limitation i do not want

And again i dont mind magical mindaltering effects so i dont need that

[coarse ravine]

It's more a option then a limitation

[marble lion]

Its a limitation that is then offered a way to partially mitigate it

Cant you just accept that i dont like it instead of trying to tell me i can only be the way i want to be mentally if i pick x/y

I started it with personal problem, not with the statement that the game is bad

[crimson gulch]

Tuesday last week

I got my preorder copy from the shop, beautiful book

[inner silo]

How's the 2025 artillerist artificer?

[uncut zenith]

I just rolled one up last night and I’m digging it

I like that you can make a Martial Ranged weapon your arcane firearm now instead of just an arcane focus

[gusty cobalt]

Is there a stat block for “durkar the sovereign serpent” I cant find one but would like to have one😅

[inner silo]

Arcane focus bow sounds really badass

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, you could make something like a crossbow or a gun your arcane firearm now, so you could switch between using it as a crossbow and casting spells from it

[inner silo]

Actually using like a gun or a rifle as the arcane firearm sounds very fitting

[inner silo]

What about their cannons. Are they good?

[uncut zenith]

Yep

Now instead of making a cannon and deciding what type of effect it has, you can choose its effect every time you use it.

[inner silo]

Sounds really great

Is the walking cannon still too slow?

[uncut zenith]

So you could use its Flamethrower feature on one turn, then use Force Ballista or Protector on the next, whereas in the old one it would stick to one feature when you create it.

It’s a 15ft movement speed

[inner silo]

Sounds like a very great change

[inner silo]

Sadge. Could you make like a shoulder cannon though?

Or is it only walking or hand cannon?

[uncut zenith]

It either walks or you carry it

So it’s either a turret or a handgun or sorts

[inner silo]

Alrighty

@uncut zenith thanks for explaining!

[misty flax]

yo one question, my friends and i wanna start an ebberon campaign and since ebberon is also sometimes compared to cyberpunk in how society treats their ppl, are there any houses or major groups that would absolutely burn down a whole ass estate just because they didnt get a new inverion from the residents and to set an example?

optimally they would also be interested in fusions of necromancy and artificery

[inner silo]

Necromancy+Artificery? Ngl this sounds fire fr

[misty flax]

tyyy :))

the invention is prolly gon be something like a fusion of a flesh golem and a steel defender or something

[inner silo]

Could also make zombies with magic guns

[misty flax]

holy yea that would be crazy

but my dm would prolly have issues balancin that i expect so i dont wanna do that to him lmao

[opal jewel]

I have made the decision that I shall finally play DND starting today BUT i have no idea how it works 😭

How do I start gng

[misty flax]

for me it started with bg3 tbh 💀

[opal jewel]

Lowkey i was gonna play that cause it looks sick but it's $60 😭

[misty flax]

taught me the basics but maybe js watch some vids on yt

[misty flax]

oof lmao i totally wiped that pricetag out my memory

[inner silo]

That could work for a big bad definitely. A big castle armed with turrets and full of magic item armed zombies and skeletons

[opal jewel]

Also I dont even know how to find a group to play with lol

[misty flax]

that would be fire fr! altho the guy is my player and hes gon be the partys tank cus i found a way to make a necromancer a tank lmao

[opal jewel]

I might buy it this month lowkey

[inner silo]

Sounds cool

[misty flax]

i didnt regret it one bit

[inner silo]

There will be a sale soon

[misty flax]

but it is really time consuming

[opal jewel]

Oh when?

[cinder timber]

#looking-for-players this is how you find a game. Go on YT for a tutorial or watch people play the game see how it is.

[misty flax]

like REALLY timeconsuming

[inner silo]

Most likely somewhere from 18th to 5th

[opal jewel]

How time consuming are you talking

[misty flax]

my sleep schedule hasnt been fixed since i downloaded this game months ago

like you can easily lose urself in it and u look at the time and 4 hours have passed

[opal jewel]

Ok yeah I'm Def buying it now

[misty flax]

x)

the builds are fun af too

[opal jewel]

Is it confusing at the start though?

[misty flax]

and the mods man the mods are great with the custom classes

[misty flax]

a bit but u get the hang of it quickly

[inner silo]

Only 4?

[misty flax]

lmao

[inner silo]

Isn't it just dnd 5e with some homebrew?

[misty flax]

i mean i did ignore it and play another 5

[misty flax]

yea and some rules are missing, but mods can easily fix that

[inner silo]

I've only played 5.5 so I'll probably not know the missing rules too

[misty flax]

like one mod adds artificers and they fit in so seemlessly i forgot it was a mod for a sec

[inner silo]

Bro I'm downloading that mode immediately

Just hope my laptop can hold the minimum graphics

[misty flax]

X) its really fun, one subclass gives u a gun that pushes back ppl when you hit them so u get a lotta sneaky cliff kills

[inner silo]

Playing dnd hitman without taking assassin

[misty flax]

fr

also there is a mod that adds rings that lets you become a mech pilot

but that mod is legit so broken, every encounter becomes easy

[vale sage]

I literally don't know anything about dnd, can someone explain it or something

All I know is that "haha bard seduces dragon" or whatever

[idle oar]

Check out #learn-to-play and feel free to ask questions in #dnd-newcomers

[coarse ravine]

#dnd-newcomers but yes can teach in here as well

@webs essentially learn what a
action is
Bonus action
Reaction
Opportunity attack
Movement speed
Ac and DC is.

After that ask yourself what you want to be in your character. We can help guide you to a class and subclass that you want

[vale sage]

I wanna do the funny

[woven flint]

The funny?

[vale sage]

Yk

[coarse ravine]

I promise you theirs a whole lot of funny to be had

[vale sage]

The funny thing

[vale sage]

Yippeeeeeeee

[coarse ravine]

The artificer making the potato gun for the potato festival?

What's the funny?

[vale sage]

Idk

🦐🏳️‍🌈

I'm freaking tired

[woven flint]

Da gay shrimp!

[vale sage]

Frfr on god

[woven flint]

I'm hyped for my next two up and coming characters 😎

Mostly because one of them is a Strength build :>

[vale sage]

Could someone friend me and help me with making character :>

[coarse ravine]

What do you want to create?

[vale sage]

Uuhhhhhhhhh

Listen aight I'm tired, hungry, and thirsty, I just walked like 2 miles

[woven flint]

There's
Artificer, Barbarian, Bard, Cleric, Druid, Fighter, Monk, Paladin, Ranger, Rogue, Sorcerer, Warlock and Wizard :>

[coarse ravine]

Bloodhunter

[vale sage]

Yummy blood

[woven flint]

Not widely Avaliable at all tables.

[coarse ravine]

Wayyy too complex for a newbie

[valid geyser]

i mean i think you should learn how the game works and join a game before you start making a character

[vale sage]

Huh, tbh I don't know

[woven flint]

Not everyone allows bloodhunter.

[woven flint]

That too ^

[vale sage]

I'm smart and gud at complex things
But blood things sound yucky

[woven flint]

I've played a bit of every class and lemme tell ya

Monk and Barbarian are where I have the most fun lol

[coarse ravine]

But like they said

You don't know the game yet... instead of choosing a class. What do you want in your character

[vale sage]

I doesn't have frens to join :<

[valid geyser]

id say just starting by reading or at least skimming the first chapter stuff is worth doing before really considering what to land on
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

[coarse ravine]

Your help to the party and character design would be... what?

[vale sage]

Uhhh
Cool and magic

[empty thicket]

I will see if my DM let me make a grenade using a pouch with black powder and caltrops and do extra damage with that.

[coarse ravine]

So warlock? Lmfao...

[vale sage]

Idk

[coarse ravine]

"Cool"

Cool magic user im thinking warlock

[vale sage]

I'm easily entertained by spells and magic

[woven flint]

Every spellcaster is cool in their own ways

[vale sage]

I have a few sets of dice
They're yummy

[limber trail]

any vibes for magic? Ancient, woodland magic? Eldritch magic from beyond the mortal world? Holy, divine magic? Arcane magic, like from harry potter?

[woven flint]

KNOME!
MY ENEMY!

[coarse ravine]

Yeah this is true druids are super cool. Just ask the squirrels

[limber trail]

fiend

[empty thicket]

you want tons of spells?Wizard
Power up your spells? Sorcerer
Or recover better between fights or more adaptability? Warlock

[vale sage]

The first one is the only one I wouldn't be interested in

[woven flint]

My Druid destroyed an entire army of undead by himself, I dunno what you're yappin' about lmao

[limber trail]

You likely won't like Druid or Ranger then.

[vale sage]

I like the idea of having lots of spells

[coarse ravine]

I'm a druid lifer... druids are the coolest lol

[woven flint]

I love Wildfire Druid the most

[limber trail]

My Druid just wrapped an encounter where he more or less Solo'd (As in, him and his summons) a buffed green dragon. At level three. I did have some help from another player for some hits but yeah. Druids are violent.

[coarse ravine]

A homebrewed Medusa who had a con save of 20... turned the whole party into stone... my draconic transformation moon druid earth elemental couldn't be turned. So he was flying and burrowing and saved everyone

Was badass for sure!

[limber trail]

(There are a few prematurely considered magic items at work here to be fair)

[vale sage]

I wanna blow up pancakes with mind

[coarse ravine]

Artificer

[empty thicket]

Good, wizard is your go for it.
Remember, that casters classes are giga weak and cant use medium//heavy armors.
Considerate it for getting a defensive//healing//temporalhealth spell.

[woven flint]

I wouldn't suggest Artificer to a new player

[limber trail]

You might like Sorcerer, Warlock, or Wizard! Abberant Mind Sorcerer especially is very focused on mental magic

[empty thicket]

depend if they are creative enough i would suggest it, but remind them its mostly a supportish class

[vale sage]

[woven flint]

I wouldn't say spellcasters are weak because of not bring able to use armor

But most casters actually can
It's only Sorcerers and Wizards that can't and most can get up to medium armor with feats and/or a subclass.

[valid geyser]

i wouldnt really suggest many casters to someone completely in the blind. I feel like there's a difference between liking the idea of it and actually enjoying it in play

[vale sage]

I want strong spells

[woven flint]

I wouldn't because it's a fairly complex class overall.

[valid geyser]

my advice is still just do a teeny bit of reading and see what sticks out to you

[burnt valley]

Until they dip into Cleric for Heavy Armour proficiency

[limber trail]

Wizard tends to be a very potent spellcaster

[valid geyser]

not all of it, like the first chapter of the free rules for the game

[empty thicket]

true, but their hp dice is low in comparison with other classes and same the hit dice.
Obviously with feats and stuff you can overcome that flaws but just the act of getting those remark more my point. They are soft and its okey.

[valid geyser]

then you could skim the first bits of some classes and see what sticks out

[limber trail]

To be honest, you're also usually getting attacked less than other classes. So it kinda works out.

[empty thicket]

yeah, but not funny 30 spells in the book

[woven flint]

I think you underestimate spellcasters

[burnt valley]

One level doesnt really hurt at all unlike dipping into a martial (+ they get upcasted Cure Wounds)

[woven flint]

Also... Most of the class in the game are also D8 classes.
The only ones that aren't are
Barbarian, Ranger, Fighter, Wizard, Paladin and Sorcerer

[coarse ravine]

Also doesn't necessarily use their mind more their inventions... but blowing up pancakes would be a artificer inventions if I ever saw one

[burnt valley]

Would Fighter be better?

[vale sage]

Can someone dm me to explain things and help me out, there's so many things happening in this channel

[empty thicket]

No no no. I overestimate them A LOT.
I am one of those that always try to see how being a fighter could take down a high level enemy casters.
And remark how a caster class have a mass destruction that not other classes have and in deep, for free.

[woven flint]

Yeah

[valid geyser]

It’s a lot to take in, so take as much time as you need, but also feel free to be proactive in your learning of the game. Way easier to do than just have someone teach you the game, especially if you’re not mid playing

[woven flint]

#dnd-newcomers

[empty thicket]

indeed, im thinking someday maybe dipping one level in warlock (im a fighter)

[coarse ravine]

My very first class ever i looked up what was the rarest or least class people played. It showed up druid so I chose that and fell in love with it. Everyone said druid was too complicated but for me it was epic.

[limber trail]

I think spellcasters are an immensely potent class that a good 50% of players frequently misplay

[knotty pasture]

As with aoe spells its all too easy to grief your own team with it

[coarse ravine]

As long as your willing to learn and be mature enough to not cheat the system. any class can work

[knotty pasture]

Martials don't have to worry about friendly fire 90% of the time

[burnt valley]

Ah alrighty

[limber trail]

martials have to worry about recieving it

[empty thicket]

true, some people only pick up offensive spells when its good to have a bit of everything in their own way

[coarse ravine]

Age old tier 1 thunderwave tpk

[knotty pasture]

But see that's kind of out of your control, you aren't griefing by being on the receiving end on aoe

[limber trail]

What I've been enjoying about my druid is getting the sheer spell quantity of a wizard. I have nine cantrips. At level four. The base class has three.

[knotty pasture]

But if you were the one causing that friendly fire aoe...

[woven flint]

My wizard only casts spells sometimes 🧐

He's a Bladesinger

[snow agate]

absolutely agree

[knotty pasture]

Druids still elude me to some extent today, they really do have poor reliable ranged game outside of some subclasses

[burnt valley]

One spell per sometimes /j

[limber trail]

I've been having a pretty good time staying at range as my druid. That said, I haven't been playing at higher levels.

[snow agate]

this is true, the only druid i really got excited about making and playing was a moon druid where i leaned into all the stuff animals can do

[woven flint]

The spell he Casts the most is shield, but he has 23 AC in Bladesong lol so he doesn't often

[coarse ravine]

Range as in distance?

[burnt valley]

Oh damn thats good

[coarse ravine]

Most versatile class in dnd

[limber trail]

we love a good shield spell in a martial build

[knotty pasture]

Thorn whip only has a 9m range while stuff like fire bolt and ray of frost has 18m, I guess you have slings/darts but those aren't quite it

[coarse ravine]

Yes thornwhip is also a melee spell

[valid geyser]

I’ve never seen anyone use meters when talking about foot increments, but either way that’s usually enough

[coarse ravine]

30 feet melee

[snow agate]

IMO thorn whip sucks and i just wouldnt recommend it, skip it and go for primal savagery/produce flame

[woven flint]

He's a full wizard!
He just has 30 intelligence

[noble basin]

those are just worse cards

[knotty pasture]

Produce Flame's too unreliable when it comes to damage cuz the enemy has to stand in it

[empty thicket]

True but in some big scenarios like a literally war, just a druid can literally make a big ass storm that change the battle ground and more. (storm of vengance) or a wizard//sorc can literally wipe out a whole army with a powered fireball

[limber trail]

Druids get Starry Wisp in 2024 which is the 60ft option

[valid geyser]

Like, 90% of combats have most sides within walking distance of each other

[snow agate]

probably talking about a video game because they dont even translate right, firebolt shoots further

[knotty pasture]

See you need to pick some subclasses to help with this, I know Stars Druid has a proper ranged option but that's kind of it

[limber trail]

That's create bonfire. Produce Flame is a ranged attack.

[coarse ravine]

What?? You project it from your hands at them

[valid geyser]

Does Bg3 use meters?

[woven flint]

Good ol' Malaketh Dronnel..

Imagine having to admit that an eccentric bunny man wizard with a sword is smarter than most mortal creatures in existence

[empty thicket]

can put stuff that interact with that fire, wood, oil, etc. etc.

[snow agate]

i dunno

[noble basin]

theres a setting for it yes

[valid geyser]

I see

[coarse ravine]

Yes druids are battlefield controllers. Lots of strategy

[woven flint]

Meters?
Nah, I measure in FREEDOM!!!!

[valid geyser]

I just always see imperial used as a distance measurement in games unless they use something abstract like just saying spaces

[marble lion]

I dislike meters bg3. Its the default in my version i guess

[knotty pasture]

I was thinking of Create Bonfire my bad

[limber trail]

At every single level of the druid spell list from cantrip to 9th level there is at least one damaging spell with a range of at least 60ft.

[coarse ravine]

Storm of vengeance distance.... sight

[empty thicket]

Still, i will remark it, only if they hold the concentration for 5 rounds, something possible if its well hidden or giga protected. But the fact that they can reach such destruction and other caster classes too

[limber trail]

Past 60ft they do struggle but if that's an issue, spell sniper exists

[knotty pasture]

Non cantrip options are unfortunately quite rare, I've been trying out the Spores Druid like its a zoo simulator

[valid geyser]

But also when do you really need to be sniping people with spell attacks as a Druid

[knotty pasture]

Summoning animals and zombies to punch things for you is fun

[coarse ravine]

I mean most of druids spells are concentration and massive area takeovers

[limber trail]

true

[humble cairn]

Yeah, I don't see how Druid has a range issue.

[valid geyser]

In my d&d experience I’ve only had like, two combats where I couldn’t get close enough to the enemy in one turn for any needed purposes

[coarse ravine]

Call lightning 60 foot radius covers 120 feet diameter

[limber trail]

also very true

[woven flint]

Druid haters when I summon a Swarm of locusts to their current location

[coarse ravine]

Moonbeam 90 feet I think but can move it all around.

[valid geyser]

30 feet is usually enough

[coarse ravine]

I will say druids need to be midline anyways

[knotty basin]

Is it possible to polymorph into a swarm?

[coarse ravine]

They have the most versatility in the game. Also second best healers in the game

Midliners is where they belong.. so 30 feet is yes fine

[noble basin]

druids have a very solid spell list

[knotty basin]

Also moon Druid is fire

[coarse ravine]

No fire is fire lmfao

[woven flint]

THE MOON HAUNTS YO-

[coarse ravine]

Wildfire is my favorite to play witj

But thats with a correct party

[snow agate]

yeahhh you usually run into combats that are melee threats unless you have a creative dm

[limber trail]

Druids are a super versatile class

[coarse ravine]

Me feeling op is definitely moon druid

[snow agate]

moon druid is one of the most fun things to play in 5e

[coarse ravine]

Correct

[valid geyser]

Druid is weird where it used to be my favorite class but I’m not so sure anymore

[coarse ravine]

My perfect party... would be

5 players
Eloquence bard
Twilight cleric
Moon druid
Oath of ancients paladin.
Divination wizard... (or any wizard honestly)

[woven flint]

All of you should play more druids

[empty thicket]

A wizard can make a literally Black hole
a sorc can make the stars fall on you
a druid can make the whole weather become a literally katrina huricane
a Warlock can literally snuff all light in an area and drive you insane while you die slowly

[valid geyser]

I mostly just like their spell utility and I feel like a lot of their subs arent great besides for giving you some spells

[knotty pasture]

I should rephase, Druid has range issues in terms of its cantrips so the Druid experience for me ended up using Shillelagh to defend myself while making a zoo's worth of summons to ward off people

Which works but part of me does want to stay in the back in general

[coarse ravine]

Also... the underrated animal shapes

Turn a entire town into elephants.....

[valid geyser]

Also 2024 really changed their flavor in a way that kinda messes with me. They get a lot more radiant damage which I kinda get but I still am not huge on. I kinda feel they should get more elemental spells instead

[coarse ravine]

Animal shapes can get crazy!!!!!! No one ever casts it tho

[burnt valley]

Moon Druid casts CWB and then Wildshapes into Quetzalcoatlus

[empty thicket]

Turn the entire crows that are above an army into Elephants, congrats, you got your meat meteor swarm.

[woven flint]

My dream party is all Barbarians.

Doesn't matter if it's one of the worst solo class party comps
I wouldn't want to fight a group of raging Barbarians!

[coarse ravine]

The fact that wildfire doesn't get fireball is wild

[valid geyser]

Also moon druid teleporting you and making you do radiant damage is weird. I thought the moon thing was like an allegory as the phases of the moon related to changing shape, but no it’s explicit moon magic now

[coarse ravine]

Animal shapes has no limit

As many as you can find that are willing lol

[woven flint]

My Centaur fella is gonna be a Berserker Barbarian, and he's gonna gloriously execute his foes :3

[proper ermine]

im trying to make a gritty campain for my players
Think like the witcher, but i have no idea where to start

[coarse ravine]

500 elephants if need be or 500 giant eagles lol

[valid geyser]

Do you plan on having it be sandboxy and/or having wilderness travel be a factor?

[proper ermine]

and
Im going with and

[shy stirrup]

Define, at least for yourself, what "gritty" means

[burnt valley]

1000 Stegosauruses pummeling one target

[valid geyser]

I’d say for sandboxes, start by writing a couple little plot hooks they can choose between. Also I think if you are using the alternate gritty realism rule for rest, it does make stuff like random wilderness encounters actually matter since they can’t take a nap and immediately invalidate it

[proper ermine]

alright, il give that a think
Hmm

[proper ermine]

So should i start looking at ramdom ecounter tables on pintrest?

[valid geyser]

I’d say curate them yourself. They don’t all have to be things that fight you on sight. Can also just be people or places they encounter on the road

[proper ermine]

got it
Thank you very much for the help

[valid geyser]

Yeah I think also probably reading the dmg stuff (either one is good iirc) on wilderness travel might be helpful

[uncut zenith]

Makes sense to me, the moon has always been connected to transformations in 5E. That’s why the spell Moonbeam can transform shapechangers back into their original form and such.

Animalistic Shapechanging (such as that of lycanthropy) is a form of moon magic

[valid geyser]

I kinda just figured being good at wildshape was enough of an identity to be its own full subclass

Like i suppose for extra subclass spells im fine with it, but i think from the eyes of a druid player who just wants to turn into animals, the moon magic and teleportation could come off as a weird addition

But I do also think shapeshifter and nature magic guy could probably be their own seperate classes but that’s tangential

[uncut zenith]

I think Moon Druids getting additional flavor that makes them more than just Druids who are particularly good at Wildshape is a good thing

[valid geyser]

Yeah I suppose this is just an entirely subjective matter but it’s just kinda weird to me since I think a lot of Druid players just wanna use wildshape. It’d be like if champion fighter got fire damage effects. I guess it would be cool but I kind of would like if it was a different subclass

Although I guess it depends on if people consider moon druid to be a basic flavor subclass in the line of champion, which is at most subjective considering the basic rules treat land Druids that way, I just think wildshape is the thing that attracts a lot of players to Druids

[knotty wyvern]

i’ve gotten my hands on a physical copy of the player handbook

[crimson gulch]

Yesterday afternoon I got to play a cleric that destroyed hundreds of undead with turn undead

[valid geyser]

Nice. I wanna play cleric again, I miss turning undead

[uncut zenith]

I wanna try the new cleric so bad

But I wanna give rogue ranger or sorcerer a go first

[crimson gulch]

New cleric is so good, on paper I hated the divine intervention change but oh my it's so good

[empty thicket]

i want to play again in a campaign im in but the dm cant for studies.
I was a ranger that literally, did lethal with almost every shot in last session

[valid geyser]

Yeah it’s for the best I’d say. 1 action hallow is pretty crazy

[uncut zenith]

It makes it a lot less of a “mother may I” feature too, which makes it more reliable and less dependent on whether the DM allows it to go off or not

[coarse ravine]

Moon druid is basic yes. I only play it if we have 0 other martials. Other then that I play star and wildfire mostly. As they are more fun to play as a full spell caster

Wildfire js just dope all the way around. Being able to cast from two different locations ar level 6 Is fantastic for strategy

Id also say shepherd is another stereotype when people think druid

Either a gigachad of hp or a gigachad of summoning. I prefer not to summon personally

[uncut zenith]

Shepherd, Moon and Land are probably the most “archetypal” Druids imo

[coarse ravine]

As a player and a former dm.... I showed up to a encounter and the pcs dropped 45 different things as allys...

I had to step away for a sec and reasses the situation lmfao

[coarse ravine]

Land sucks don't choose land lol

[uncut zenith]

The one that’s great with animals, the one that coexists and transforms into animals, and the one that’s connected with the environment as a whole

[coarse ravine]

Nothing to do with wildshapes for land.

[uncut zenith]

Land is great in 2024

[valid geyser]

I think land is definitely pretty archetypal, although I just feel people more might want to be the archetype to be wildshaping

[coarse ravine]

What's the difference

Only thing they got is natural recovery in 2014.

[uncut zenith]

It got a huge overhaul, don’t have the time to detail it all for you unfortunately

[valid geyser]

But I’ll admit this is a weird discussion because I do prefer nature mage druid to shapeshifter druid

[coarse ravine]

Few good spells too Other then that land sucks!!!

[uncut zenith]

I’m pretty sure it’s in the Free Rules though, but I may be wrong

[crimson gulch]

The thing about the divine intervention feature is that of the 14 times it was rolled for in my games, it worked 12 times

[valid geyser]

Yeah land druid is on the 2024 basic rules

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, cuz it’s the archetypal druid

[coarse ravine]

I'll have to go look at it cause 2014 land is garbage. Nothing to do with wildshapes and every other one has it

[uncut zenith]

The 2024 Free Rules subclasses are the basic archetype of each of the classes. Land Druid, Champion Fighter, Fiend Warlock, etc.

[coarse ravine]

Spores, shepherd, wildfire, stars, moon all do cool things for wildshape... while land feels like druid without a subclass

[valid geyser]

I like 2014 land druid because of its spells and the way it separates Druids of specific biomes but gameplay wise 2024 is definitely better and more versatile

[coarse ravine]

Moon druid also feels like druid without a subclass when ya aren't in animal form

[valid geyser]

I think wotc might’ve wanted to allow for those druid flavors to be future subclasses, like a circle of the desert instead of just a land druid for the desert

[coarse ravine]

Circles need ocean

[valid geyser]

I mean there is a seas druid subclass now

[coarse ravine]

Or winter or somethin.

[uncut zenith]

There is a Sea Druid in 2024

[coarse ravine]

Ohhh ok I gotta look that up

Sea druid huh? Let's see what this entails

[valid geyser]

In my opinion, it’s kind of not great. It’s basically all about spending your wild shape to have this little aura to smack people around for some cold damage. The problem is you gotta be right up there

The pushing is strong though

[uncut zenith]

One of the things I like best about the Seas Druid is that it doesn’t have the “Aquaman problem”, as Crawford put it.

[valid geyser]

And you get lightning bolt

[uncut zenith]

Meaning that just because their domain is the sea, it doesn’t mean they need to be by the sea to be useful.

[coarse ravine]

Seems like oath of water or whatever the paladin one is.

With the channel divinity that surrounds them. But thats fog cloud way different but the flavor sounds like it

[coarse ravine]

It just seems to add a variety of resistances which is good

And some meager cold damage and swimming and flying speed.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah the idea is that you’re bringing some of the sea to you, instead of having to go to the sea to be useful

[valid geyser]

At the early levels, the damage is pretty strong. Bonus action for 3-4 d6 cold damage definitely pulls weight. It just doesn’t scale past wisdom so it gets less and less useful as you go

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I mean fly speed and swim speed are cool

All those resistances are really awesome tbf.... but level 14 ain't that great

Con save as well

[valid geyser]

Yeah also the resistances are only when your form is up, so it’s definitely not as good as I initially thought

[coarse ravine]

A simple absorb elements can solve the level 10 feature lol

Not without the reaction but yeah.

[coarse ravine]

Ohhh wow yeah thats bad

I mean... they all are kinda like that thi

[valid geyser]

I imagine level 4 being situational. Like of course a clsss that uses its BA every turn gains almost nothing but the fact that it pushes enemies away might be unsavory for some

[coarse ravine]

Let me look at spores level 14 feature.

I don't think ya have to have your thp still.

[drifting zephyr]

Need me a fungril character

[coarse ravine]

I don't like spores cause it's a action to get the thp

Wildfire is also a action but at least it causes damage on arrival

[valid geyser]

I played spores for like 10 levels, barely ever used the class features tbh. It was more a great subclass for the good spells you get

[crimson gulch]

the spores druid in my exandrian game is killer

[valid geyser]

But I was also playing a game set in ravnica with the golgari background which gives you most of the same spells

[tough cedar]

Has anyone played witchlight?

[crimson gulch]

yeah wild beyond the witchlight is a great adventure

[coarse ravine]

I had a 19 level one and never used the 6th level feature once

But yeah blindness is used aton of.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah it’s a lot of fun if you’re looking for some weird fey shenanigans with obvious inspiration from fey-like media like Alice in Wonderland, The Wizard of Oz, and The Dark Crystal

[coarse ravine]

The immunity conditions came up alot as well.

[valid geyser]

Me neither I think, I had skeletons from animate dead up but we didn’t really fight many humanoids/beasts in the size category, also it’s a 1 hp zombie what’s it gonna do past level 9

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I mean as a player you rarely or never get conditional immunities and yes it comes on late level 14. But besides stuff like elf that can't sleep. Conditional immunities are nice to have

[valid geyser]

I think I kinda mentioned it earlier but something I’ve been thinking about with Druid is that most non moon Druids primarily spend wild shape on not wildshaping. I feel like it’d be more sense if they made it like cleric channel divinity where wildshape is just one of the options like how turn undead is a base class option. Although it’d probably be a little more complex

[coarse ravine]

Not being able to be crit

Pretty big deal.

[valid geyser]

And 2024 druid and cleric base classes are already very very similar now

[coarse ravine]

Yeah well the wildshape just has other abilities then fur is all for the other subclasses

Idk anything about 2024 rules lol

Plus ya get wildshapes back on short rest. Channel divinity once per longrest

[valid geyser]

Clerics in 2024 have about as many uses of CD as Druids have wildshape now

[coarse ravine]

They get theirs on a short rest? Or druids don't get theirs back now on a short rest?

[valid geyser]

They get one back on a short rest

[coarse ravine]

Ohh only 1

For the whole day?

[valid geyser]

I think just every long rest. It works about the same for Druids too, except Druids get to spend spell slots to regain a wildshape at level 5

You can use Wild Shape twice. You regain one expended use when you finish a Short Rest, and you regain all expended uses when you finish a Long Rest.

[coarse ravine]

So they nuked/buffed druid wildshape

Dependinv how ya look at it.....

Phh so short rest twice get 2

Gotcha.

[valid geyser]

And again they more as they level up. But since they can also spend any level spell slot to regain a use a Druid who might wanna can eildshape as many times as they have slots

[coarse ravine]

Kinda awesome for tne non moon druids

Moon can stay in their form for hours and hours.....

I forgot how long spores lasts but the others are only 10 min

[valid geyser]

Also weirdly you can do the reverse at level 5 and turn wild shape into slots but only level 1. I can’t imagine many times you might just need to cast a level 1 cure wounds

And I think back with clerics it’s kinda strange they don’t get a similar ability to convert spell slots into channel divinity. Instead they get a kind of decent upgrade to turn undead where you deal a bit of radiant damage to them

It’s weird that wild shape and CD are so similar yet also really different. Most Druid wildshape features are like minutes long forms where most CDs are like single one and done things. Exceptions do exist such as land druid and trickery cleric

[crimson gulch]

War cleric Channel divinitys are great

[valid geyser]

oh for sure. Reminds me of 3.5e true strike

[knotty wyvern]

i've made a new character by rolling dice for her race and class, background, alignment, equipment, ability scores, i got a true neutral half-orc sorcerer, what should i name her ? i'm no good at orc names

[barren kayak]

Hey guys I was wondering if anyone had any advice for being a DM because I got asked to be a DM for a new campaign but I haven't got the FAINTEST idea of what I do- 🥲🥲

I have like a year and half of DND experience

But never actually being a DM

[knotty wyvern]

she has blue dragon ancestry, with orange hair, blueish gray skin, lapis blue eyes

[harsh hinge]

Assuming you know the rules...

Grab a pre-written adventure, do some reading/watching (I'd recommend the Quickstart Guide, the DM section of the Basic Rules starting here, and this Ginny Di video), and dive in!

[barren kayak]

Tyyy

[shy stirrup]

head on over to the #dm-discussion channel, it would become easier to help you if you came armed with specific questions, otherwise as razorwing says, some general guides might help

[barren kayak]

Okayayya thankss

[shy stirrup]

You're certainly off to a good start if you have experience as a player

[umbral girder]

Notably they can't use slots for channel divinity, and channel divinity's effects are usuallly much stronger.

[opaque flower]

how should i go about finding an online party to play dnd with. it feels like everything gets filled up immediately

[hollow stone]

issue a post in #looking-for-dm and wait

[cinder timber]

You can post in #looking-for-dm and just try to keep up with posts

[opaque flower]

i did but no one has said anything😭

[cinder timber]

You can try DMing, you will get a lot of demand

[opaque flower]

ohh i’m a player, not a dm

[hollow stone]

there does exist a class of DM who does not wait for you to find them, but rather, will find you. that's how i got in one such campaign

[cinder timber]

Keep looking proactively and post in lookingfordm

[opaque flower]

i’ve dm for friends irl and can’t keep up with dming two campaigns i always have cool character ideas to play but then dont have a campaign i can actually play in

[hollow stone]

then do the opposite and put your eyes on #looking-for-players and wait, and even if you see that they've met their demand, post anyway as long as they're not 1-2 players beyond their demand, in the event they grow to favor you as a player than the other offers

[opaque flower]

that’s what i been looking at

[hollow stone]

it is important to note that waiting sucks a lot, i know, i spend at least 80% of my time waiting for things to stop, but we have no times traveler today :(

[knotty basin]

Should I play arcane trickster rogue or battlemaster fighter? I prefer more tactical/strategic combat

[hollow stone]

i mean i personally like Battlemaster Fighter but it all depends on what you want to do with the character

[tiny scarab]

I gotta make more characters soon but idk what races and classes go consider

[knotty basin]

How do want your character to fight

[hollow stone]

i know i'm going to manufacture an Aasimar Battlemaster + Celestial Warlock

[tiny scarab]

I generally like spell based ones, but I also got a Zealot Barbarian already so

[knotty basin]

I meant like more… what powers do you want

[snow agate]

pick something that you havent played and your party will like

[tiny scarab]

I was thinking of a Sorcerer with similar powers to a Divination Wizard but idk what sub class that would be

[hollow stone]

yea, contemplate your integration to the party composition and the role you will serve to them

[snow agate]

great old one

wait thats a warlock uhhh

[woven flint]

Aberrant.

[snow agate]

yis

[woven flint]

:>

[peak flume]

I need to populate a town map with monsters. The town is being invaded by a nautiloid ship with mind flayers. Other than mind flayers and Intilect devourers. What kind of creatures from the far realms would you conceviably find on a mind flayer warship.

[woven flint]

Terrasque

[snow agate]

greens and greys

[woven flint]

Elder Brain

[snow agate]

maybe martians too

[woven flint]

Elder Brain Dragon

[knotty basin]

Oblex

They’re so underused

[peak flume]

I like that one

are greens and greys a real thing or are you just talking about generic aliens?

[hollow stone]

ykw, do a generic alien, put a Xenomorph on the ship, i'm sure that homebrew exists

make one room of the ship have like 3 xenomorphs js chillin

[peak flume]

If possible I want to stick to DND cannonical stuff as I have some nerds at my table that really appreciate things from the offical books

[hollow stone]

oh okei

[old sluice]

In D&D that's called a Slaad

[hollow stone]

i knew it

[old sluice]

You can basically do the first alien movie beat for beat

[potent siren]

Could also include mind flayer thralls, aka. creatures under the control of said invading mindflayers.

[hollow stone]

yea put like 3 slaads in a room js chillin

[knotty basin]

Even better if they impersonate the party. Say they get split up, and then when they eventually regroup realize there’s two of someone

[old sluice]

Not the second though. But the third. Not the fourth. Not Prometheus. Maybe Covenant. Arguably Romulus. Not Alien Earth. Maybe AvP?

But you would need a yautja analogue. Maybe githyankis?

[snow agate]

yes

[cinder timber]

I became a dm to skip the waiting 😃

[hollow stone]

i mean even then as a person who plays DND at all i find i also wait between sessions and that's a while

[buoyant oar]

I found a horrible way to fix the wait between games.

What if I made the most accurate map of the forgotten realms possible with the most amount of locations I can fit on it...

It's been 3 years. I'm still not done.

[cinder timber]

I never thought I would want the next session to start immediately after the session ended

[jolly heron]

Guys, how OP would be this change:

Level 13: Relentless Hunter
Taking damage can't break your Concentration on Hunter's Mark

would become

Level 13: Relentless Hunter
You no longer need to Concentrate on Hunter's Mark

[buoyant oar]

Busted

[jolly heron]

I was afraid it would be

[potent siren]

i mean this effectively gives rangers extra damage for free, so quite strong

they just spend one action and then they are set for the rest of the fight

[buoyant oar]

Concentration is a resource. Not wasting a resource is a good buff at level 13 because damage can't end it.

Not having to expend the resource entirely? Busted.

[hollow stone]

i mean maybe make it so they can only have one Hunter's Mark deployed at a time?

[jolly heron]

yes, this for sure!

[buoyant oar]

That is typical already cover in the base rules where you can't have duplicate effects from the same source.

[hollow stone]

bc the only reason HM even is Concentration is so you can't do silly things like deploy 4500 Hunter's Marks on one guy and then flick them to deal more damage than standing on the surface of the sun

or Hunter's Marking an entire battalion, that's also a nuh uh

[jolly heron]

It's just, most of hunter spells are concentration as far as i can tell, and having the "core" also still be concentration (and "worse" a concentration hard to break) feels a bit... it feels off. At least for me

[hollow stone]

i mean maybe it'd be a cool to experiment with giving Rangers more than one Concentration as an upgrading past Level 9? since like 80% of their spells are Concentration it'd be a pretty good buff for their later levels, which is where they severely fall off

[potent siren]

Its also concentration because its a very strong source of consistent damage. If it wasnt concentration then you just get it for free, there would be no consequences to not casting it (outside of the spell slot expended), so you might as well just make it a class feature if you want to buff it in that way

[hollow stone]

like they can Concentrate on 3 separate Ranger spells by Level 13 wouldn't be too expensive i can't believe?

[jolly heron]

Yeah but level 13 is already a pretty high level

[hollow stone]

idk, save type for the UA devs, that's too many thoughts

[woven flint]

They could also have just put In the spells text, if it wasn't concentration:

"You can only have one creature under hunters marks effects at a time"

[hollow stone]

actually wait the more i think the better an idea this looks like

[hollow stone]

this is a concept, right? they get a certain number of charges past 2nd or 3rd level that let them roll a new concept of a "Concentration Die", where they can roll a D10, and if the amount of damage they took is inferior to the rolled D10, they don't need to make a Con save to hold concentration

they're gonna send me to #homebrew if i don't send me myself

[potent siren]

Idk if being a high level constitutes just making a strong ability stronger than it already is. Ultimately its just what you feel is good for your table. If getting that damage for free is fine with you (or your dm if your a player) then I dont think there is much to complain about

[hollow stone]

not for everyone but Ranger in particular fails to be cost effective at higher levels

[jolly heron]

Yep yep. What I wanted to first try to understand, before asking this to my dm, is if this was completely broken / overpowered or it's still "playable" - let's put it that way

[potent siren]

getting it for free will become especially strong once it gets further enhanced with Precise Hunter. At that point it just gives you free consistent damage and free advantage on one enemy permanently for one spell slot

though idk how likely you are to reach lvl 17

[jolly heron]

i think dm is planning on reaching 20 yeah

[potent siren]

then that might need to be something to take into consideration

[buoyant oar]

Also it's important to take into consideration if you are reaching that high level do not remove magic items from the power equation.

[knotty basin]

Are there any concentration cantrips that target objects?

Preferably useful in combat

[potent siren]

getting advantage at the cost of concentration is strong, and potentially needing to give it up in order to cast a different spell brings into play some interesting strategy. Getting something like that for free is very, ***very ***strong

[snow agate]

i think as long as you only get to upkeep one instance of hunters mark, its fine. depends on how many magic items your dm gives out though. if they give you good loot, its balanced, if they give you bad loot, its op

[jolly heron]

thank you for your input!

[buoyant oar]

Yep. People really didn't understand that the majority of 5eR spell nerfs that happened were nerfs that needed to happen. Like Spiritual Weapon.

[valid geyser]

i find that a strange example, spiritual weapon wasnt even that great of a spell in 2014, it just happened to be the cleric's best second level damaging spell

[uncut zenith]

Yeah that’s the nature of game balance that a lot of people forget about. Sometimes things need buffing, but often times things need nerfing too.

[buoyant oar]

Not that great of a spell - best second level damage cleric spell

[halcyon forum]

spiritual weapon really didnt need a nerf, especially because they buffed spirit guardians

[fickle heart]

I do remember the designers themselves saying SW should have been concentration from the start. Unsure if it slipped through without it or it was added so late that they didn't think to add it, though.

It was originally a concentration spell, too, iirc.

[halcyon forum]

If they have some internal design guidelines that leads them to conclusions like that, those documents are seriously flawed.

I think SW would need a serious damage buff to justify concentration

or some extra effect

[fickle heart]

It definitely needed the speed increased, though.

[knotty basin]

Wow, swashbuckler is so overpowered

[crimson gulch]

not really no, its ok but not overpowered

[knotty basin]

Especially when combined with extra movement speed

[halcyon forum]

swashbuckler? thats a pretty mid rogue subclass

it makes going into melee somewhat viable for a rogue I guess

[minor lake]

Hi I'm Cowz and I've bought 3 different versions of the PhB this year but I can STOP WHENEVER I WANT

[crimson gulch]

I bought 2 of them this year and got one as a gift. Too, it happens there are a lot of them

[minor lake]

SAME
i bought a physical one as a gift and then a pdf that would work in roll20

and then i had to get ANOTHER pdf that would work OUTSIDE of roll20

[valid geyser]

im considering gifting my DM the monster manual if i have the money

[minor lake]

they are expensive but great gifts. I gifted one to one of my new players and I think it made them even more invested

there's so much stuff in there

you might be able to find the monster manual in a secondhand store. Phb has been hard for me to find used but i can usually find a used MM

[valid geyser]

like ideally i could find it secondhand but since those books are so new its unlikely

[minor lake]

yeah i was gonna say the same thing

i've had an easier time finding a used monster manual than a used PhB

[valid geyser]

yeah i can reliably find facebook marketplace listings for most books before like 2018

[crimson gulch]

Oh I bought a 1e adnd copy, a 2e adnd copy and got the 2024 alt art as a gift

[tropic eagle]

Good Afternoon everyone

[sleek cloud]

Good time of day fellow human beings

[still rivet]

good day i have an interesting question for you all on the dnd beyond cyber monday sale which module would you buy as a gift for a first time dm

[sleek cloud]

Swashbuckler rogue with the new zhentarim feats is pretty handy

[harsh hinge]

I've heard they all take varying degrees of work on the DM's part, but if I had to pick, I'd go with either Candlekeep (so the DM can pick and choose) or Dragon Heist (it's a 1-5 adventure, and it's largely contained).

[fallow robin]

@half prairie yo i need help in DND can u help?

i just joined and ur name poped up

[idle oar]

Don't randomly ping folks

[rough basalt]

I got more dnd books on my way.

[sleek cloud]

Bruh

[rough basalt]

Some GM book of books and Strixhaven Alt Cover

[idle oar]

Please check #learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers if you'd like to learn how to play D&D

[deft citrus]

be not afraid for they arrive

[sleek cloud]

But also, what didja get sora

[fallow robin]

alr

[sleek cloud]

I’m only slightly ashamed that I bought the strixhaven book purely for silvery barbs

[rough basalt]

I got it cause the alt cover looks nice

Will be getting the Eberron book too for the '24 Arti

[sleek cloud]

I just went and looked up that cover, that’s pretty sick

In the good way

[jovial badger]

eberron looks peak

i wanna get it just for warforged tbh

[cobalt owl]

I've been tempted to run a Eberron game for a while

[crimson gulch]

The new Ebberon book is nice, I got it

[knotty basin]

Wow, 2014 swashbuckler is so overpowered. (I haven’t read the 2024 version)

[minor lake]

currently listening to a campaign where everyone is playing 20 something frat bros and it's hilarious
the bard is an emo musician

[sleek cloud]

Swashbuckler hasn’t been updated yet much to my dismay

[uncut zenith]

I’d be disappointed if it was the only 5E Eberron book, but since it’s designed to be supplemental to RftLW, I’m happy with it

[crimson gulch]

I'm disappointed we don't have a proper campaign book for 5e ebberon, just setting guides with some starter quests

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, I’m really hoping we get a full adventure at some point. But WOTC has been saying for years they were going to make one and still nothing, so I’m not holding out hope

[crimson gulch]

Forgotten realms has so many books for 5e
Ebberon has 2
Planescape has one box
Spelljamemr had one box.
Exandria has 2 books
And every other setting has been one and done

[uncut zenith]

Maybe there’s hope now that WOTC’s D&D division is under new management

[crimson gulch]

They sure need to announce something for 2026

[uncut zenith]

Hopefully they’ll have another Live event with the new year to give us a glimpse as to what’s to come

[crimson gulch]

New core books are an amazing bread, I need fresh meat and veg for the rest of the sandwich

Nah I done need a live event, a post is fine

Focus on the writing and art, the rest is just froth and bubbles

[stoic obsidian]

I feel like flail weapon mastery should be graze instead of sap

[sleek cloud]

Yeah, I could see it

[stoic obsidian]

Probably for balance reasons I guess

Since it a one handed weapon

[sleek cloud]

I mean,longsword has sap, mace,Morningstar, war pick, they’ve all got it. It would’ve been nice if flails got a little more zing with graze at least than being just another sap weapon

[stoic obsidian]

Fair point

Also graze is only on two weapons and both use slashing

[past blaze]

Basically, a greek mythos style of setting.

Technically each of those things is remotely possible to have implied in backstory and as an epilogue to the story

[loud tendon]

D&d is usually a team game.. so not just about you and one person's hero journey. player characters are considered heroic because they are much more powerful than say, a commoner even at level 1.

Generally no player character becomes a god but you can do some pretty mythic stuff

[past blaze]

but it does depend entirely on the DM allowing it

[gleaming canopy]

Hey guys i'm thinking of leting my players cast 2 levelled spells in a turn (one as an action and one as bonus action, like guiding bolt and spiritual weapon), due to most of them being BG3 players getting to learn DND 5e. Would that make them too overpower or make it a lot harder for me to balance encounters?

[dapper cloud]

I guess it would depend on the campaign.

[gaunt roost]

Hey, just to be clear, a spellscroll only requires you to have the appropriate spellcasting feature, not to actually know/prepare the spell beforehand to use, right? So as a MC character that has level 4 spellslots, and at least 1 class that has for example greater invis in their list (sorc for example), I could use the scroll even though I a) dont know greater invis and b) I usually could only prepare sorc spells up to level 2?

[crimson gulch]

Sticking to raw is best imo

[loud tendon]

DMs always have that right, but setting expectations for an average d&d game is important

[stoic obsidian]

If you want them to learn dnd keep it to the rules

[dapper cloud]

This would be extremely powerful and you would need another factor to balance it if you added it. I’m sure there’s ways of making it balanced.

Not in D&D, no.

[minor lake]

"i always keep my lute tuned to drop D"

it sounds a bit like a videogame intro

i guess in the videogame you would start at full power and then they'd take it from you

cool idea tho

[dapper cloud]

Slaying gods might happen if the DM has played too many JRPGs. Ascending to godhood was in older editions of the game but it’s not something mechanically supported by 5e.

[minor lake]

dude actually a dnd campaign with like the greek pantheon would be cool

[stoic obsidian]

Godhood is boring imo

[past blaze]

I swear there was some segment somewhere about something like resolving a campaign after level 20, with things like a druid becoming a nature spirit, a cleric ascending to become the right hand of their deity, and so on

[stoic obsidian]

Still is

[minor lake]

running combat for level 20 is a RIDE

[past blaze]

I just cannot find that segment for the life of me...

[stoic obsidian]

Meh

[past blaze]

Does anyone know where this is found?

[dapper cloud]

Hitting level 20 will also take literal years.

[crimson gulch]

That sounds like the epic destiny from 4e

[minor cargo]

In 3.5E there was the Epic Level Handbook. It had some options that were sort of like this, but not exactly.

[crimson gulch]

Nah I've done it many times in under a year

[stoic obsidian]

I rather read a book after achieving godhood, plus why fight a war after war, because the journey is more entertaining than the power

[past blaze]

4e and 3.5e are not 5e why would you think that was relevant for a question looking for where in the 5e books that segment was

[lean wigeon]

pathfinder/dnd4e fixes this or something

[minor lake]

i would vibe with that

it's giving percy jackson

[stray atlas]

so playing bg3 made me wonder, what methods are there to save someone from a mind flayer parasite in normal dnd?

[crimson gulch]

I have had players defeat gods and then not seize the mantle of divinity

[stray atlas]

I'd imagine wish is up there but what else?

[minor lake]

i think they can make a saving throw?

[dapper cloud]

I believe Remove Curse of Greater Restoration might? Wish definitely would.

[minor lake]

probably

[stray atlas]

against being turned into a mind flayer?

[dapper cloud]

If you could, the plot of BG3 wouldn’t happen.

[stoic obsidian]

Fair, but what you gonna after you defeat tenth Omni god the dm?

[minor lake]

oh true lol

in game brain surgery

maybe if you had like a super high medicine stat you could do brain surgery

[stoic obsidian]

After that

[lean wigeon]

i dont think 5e scales that high anyways. you'd prob have to rescale and recalibrate the entire bestiary if you want players to be able to reach that sort of power level using the same level range. eventually you'd cap out at 20 though still

[minor lake]

does the mindflayer worm kill you if you remove it

[stoic obsidian]

Now everyone is a banana

[stray atlas]

maybe-

[dapper cloud]

What’s the point of infinite power scaling, man?

[stoic obsidian]

Exactly

[stray atlas]

hmmm come to think of it, what happens if you cast true ressurection on any viscera leftover from someone going through ceremorphosis?

[stoic obsidian]

Infinite power is kinda like woopie big deal

[stray atlas]

I've heard that becoming a mind flayer destroys someone's soul but idk

there's of course the whole matter cannot be created or destroyed thing but also I can't think of a reason why it'd destroy someone's soul

[stoic obsidian]

Or you can just kill them

[crimson gulch]

Nah, I experience the game more than the players

Sure there is

The players suprise me every single day

[stoic obsidian]

Your players can react differently than you expect

[stray atlas]

there's no practical reason

[stoic obsidian]

Okay, then answer this what the point of obtaining infinite power?

Why you obtain godhood?

[dapper cloud]

If someone has infinite power, then how do you even get it off their hands?

[stoic obsidian]

And why obtain more when you already got it

Like you become god of death, you already got power why obtain more

That makes more sense than obtaining power solely so you can control reality are boring

Oh okay

And the players are gods right?

Okay, what if they thought of the consequences of gaining god hood

Like living forever

[sleek cloud]

Yeah, like godhood but you have to talk with a Kermit the frog impression for the rest of your existence

[stoic obsidian]

Or love ones passing away

[sleek cloud]

Gotta survive to level 20 first

[stoic obsidian]

Or can be a god without immorality

Because you don’t need to be immortal to have god like powers for awhile

I would destroy the underworld

[sleek cloud]

There’s no god in dnd greater than the dm that can say no to things

[stoic obsidian]

Dm is the source

I would destroy the heavens as well

One life no second chances

Yes

[past blaze]

I FOUND IT
DMG 2014 creating a campaign tiers of play levels 17-20 masters of the world
The fourth paragraph talks about level 20 being the pinnacle of mortal achievement, their ultimate destinies coming to pass, like "A cleric might be taken up into the heavens to serve as a god’s right hand." or "A druid might become one with the land, transforming into a nature spirit of a particular place or an aspect of the wild."

[stoic obsidian]

It boring to die the 20th time and have to fight hades each time

[sleek cloud]

The dm is quite literally the game runner, they get to decide whether or not they’ll allow godhood to be obtainable along with many other things character may or may not want to do, they’re not just just some observer that allows things and narrates.

[stoic obsidian]

And it also boring to have death not mean much when you can just climb the tower back to life

It only a power fantasy if you let it

[sleek cloud]

So you want to be the dm so you can have a power fantasy of becoming a god

[stoic obsidian]

Sounds like it

[sleek cloud]

My point that I’m making is that you want to be allowed to obtain godhood and I’m saying DMs can just say no to that because ultimately it’s their game to run and story to tell

If they allow the attempt, by all means

[past blaze]

I was right after all... It wasn't from things I had never read, it was something I remembered but had lost where it was found... Feels so good to find something

[minor lake]

collaboration!

[stoic obsidian]

And you do realize they are the one responsible for setting up the game, scheduling, dealing with problem players, weather, ectra ectra in other words they have a lot responsibility do you still think being a god/dm sound like power fantasy fun

[sleek cloud]

Right, gonna chalk this one up to, “best of luck with all that”

[cinder timber]

Hello folks

[bronze wave]

I always hate coming at the end of a convo. Miss everything

[cloud grove]

Do dragonborne's not automatically get draconic? im making a dragonborne paladin with soldier background and it's still saying i have to select it as one it's languages
(This is on dnd beyond)

[jagged vigil]

Whoop whoop! My players are engaging in some out-of-session play! Encouraged by the player that bought creatures between sessions, I'm getting texts from other players about stuff they want to accomplish between sessions! I always love out-of-session play as a player, but when I DM my players never seem to want to engage in that between sessions

[stoic obsidian]

They don’t get dragconic automatically

[hexed hornet]

Real

[uncut zenith]

No playable species gets a language other than Common anymore in the 2024 rules. Cuz language is a cultural trait, not a biological one.

Same reason why elves don’t all inherently know elvish anymore. An elf who wasn’t raised by elves might not have a reason to know how to speak elvish.

Everybody knows Common, but nobody inherently knows another language based off their species.

[jagged vigil]

So with rare languages not being available at the start anymore, how are you guys as DMs allowing rare languages to be learned? I'm thinking of treating it like a project from Draw Steel, or maybe use the Candlekeep language learning from Minsc and Boo's

[uncut zenith]

Same rules for training to learn new proficiencies. You need downtime and cash to pay someone to take the time to teach you.

You also need to take the time to find a teacher.

[fickle heart]

(Now if only WotC actually provided worldbuilding guides so that cultures made by non-professionals didn't feel so flat.)

The primary upside of "species-as-culture" is that you don't have to be particularly good at worldbuilding to get good results, even if it ends up trope-y.

[gaunt roost]

It only takes you 10 weeks to master a whole language like celestial or gnoll. Though gnoll is really hard to get due to being gnoll exclusive, noone else even learns that

well 10-intmod weeks

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, that’s why some languages are more rare than others

[gaunt roost]

but yeah there is a couple of esoteric languages that will likely never come up and you will have to go out of your way to kidnap someone that speaks them

[jagged vigil]

So for Faerun, you can learn a language in 100 days? Outside of Faerun, 70 days?

[gaunt roost]

10 workweeks, so technically I think 70 and 50 days respectivly? Does fearun not have a 3 day weekend?

[jagged vigil]

Faerun has a 10 day week

[gaunt roost]

I know. Hence why I said 70 days, because 10 day week, 3 of which are weekend, and so a workweek would be 7 actual days

[cerulean monolith]

The length of a workweek is specifically defined iirc

[gaunt roost]

it is? As what?

[jagged vigil]

So why are languages so easy to pick up?

[uncut zenith]

Because it’s a fantasy game with a lot of abstraction

[gaunt roost]

the short answer? Comprehend languages is a 1st level spell. The long answer? Because spending 2 months of downtime around people is realistic for adventurers, 3 year sis not

[jagged vigil]

I almost wish language learning had tiers. Like, sharing a language other than Common adds a bonus to CHA Tests against that creature, and that bonus scales with how well you know the language

[uncut zenith]

D&D also doesn’t build on language fluency. 10 workweeks is assumedly enough that you can speak enough to get by, but that doesn’t mean you’re necessary completely fluent.

[gaunt roost]

dnd 5 specifically wanted to go away from arbitrary bonuses with the advantage/disadvantage system instead of multiple different numeric bonuses

[gaunt roost]

I repeat my question, what is a workweek specifically defined iirc as?

[cerulean monolith]

I dunno, I just remember it being defined in XGtE

[uncut zenith]

It was probably mentioned in XGTE in the section where they expanded on downtime

[old sluice]

There's a minimum, right?

Because otherwise a 30 int creature could just learn instantly

... Which makes sense actually. Nevermind

[gaunt roost]

no, and also negative int doesnt prolong learning (there is no slow learners in dnd I guess)

I would totally see a 30 int monster (which most gods dont have) picking up a language in a couple of hours. Its still a downtime activity, so probably not in a combat situation

[old sluice]

Of course

[jagged vigil]

Yeah, but do we have guidance on the topic for 5e (24)?

[old sluice]

But the idea of someone just learning a language by listening to native speakers for a day and then speaking fluently is hilarious

And... Probably accurate to what actual superhuman intelligence might be like

[cerulean monolith]

They are the same edition. All rules that are not reprinted, contradicted, or explicitly invalidated are still applicable when using the 2024 rules

[jagged vigil]

Hasn't the US military essentially solved language learning? How do they do it? How long does it take?

[gaunt roost]

especially if that thing has already learned a few dozen languages. "Oh hey you are using a grammar system based on old elvish with celestial pronounciation, and with that syntax you make screeching noises every shortbreath, I can extrapolate most similiar words from there, thanks for teaching me aarakocra"

[old sluice]

I wouldn't call it solved, but I do remember reading about a study around language learning used by the army as training. And the methods of that study having excellent results

[jagged vigil]

Looks like the US military uses the same downtime rules as XGtE for language learning😂 It's described as "drinking from a firehose" and can take a little over a year

But they do 5 days a week, 8 hours a day for learning

At that point, maybe just find a sagely wizard to magic the language into your head?

[old sluice]

There is no spell that can do this and I think it may be better that it remains so

It's dangerous to implant magical solutions that just replace training and actual skill without cost. Not only mechanically but it wrecks havoc on your worldbuilding

[ornate aurora]

Hi Could someone explain how i create a Mark of warding Dwarf, Ive made the dwarf but unsure where find the subrace part

In D&D Beyond

[rose dock]

where are the looking for channels

[cosmic roost]

Ready to play Dungeons & Dragons?

Visit #find-a-game for everything you need to start your search, including:

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• Basic advice to help you in your hunt.

[harsh hinge]

They're all linked in #find-a-game. You can also make sure they're visible in id:browse.

[jagged vigil]

I mean, I think it's pretty clear there are magical spells in D&D the PCs just don't have access to. For example, statblocks for creatures that can be created by evil wizards, but no spells for creating those creatures. Alternately, a lich's mighty undead army without spells used to maintain that army

[old sluice]

Which creatures are you thinking of, out of curiosity?

[jagged vigil]

Helmed Horror comes to mind right away. Bone Naga too

[old sluice]

True! Bone nagas I don't think are made by wizards but sure

Problem is: It does not matter whether or not the ability is accessible to PCs. It is an ability that should not exist at all

[clear crown]

Hey guys I’m new to D&D looking for any help I can find 😉

[old sluice]

What sort of help?

Generally it starts with reading the game's rules

[clear crown]

Well I have no idea where to start. I haven’t really got anyone to play with either and I don’t wanna play online 😭

I’m just lost tbh

[old sluice]

Alright so first read the PHB. Then check for games in your area

[clear crown]

I live in a very isolated place and I won’t say my exact age but I’m young so I can’t drive anywhere

[cosmic roost]

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[idle oar]

Some libraries have D&D clubs/groups

Could check your local library

Book stores and comic shops as well

[clear crown]

Ok the next thing I’m about to say will either sound ridiculous because I’m slow or because of my country but I didn’t know library’s still existed 💔

[normal junco]

if you want a preview of what a game session will be like, read Peril in Pinebrook by Young Minds Inspired. its one of the better worded intros of how to play and be a DM.

its a fairly short adventure, but it does a really good job

not all libraries have D&D games, but if you have access to a library, that would be a great place to check. they may have D&D books you can check out too.

[old sluice]

But frankly if you want to DM your first game you need nothing more than a town, three skeletons, five goblins, two traps, and a dungeon with a few rooms

[stable solar]

Or just one really hard first encounter

Objective: survive

[normal junco]

thats a lot of set up. most people have dice, paper, and players. there's the ethical issue of sourcing skeletons too...

[clear crown]

Heh

[old sluice]

Put three common items in the dungeon, two uncommon, and you're done.

[raw ocean]

What do you guys do when your players want a level up?

[stable solar]

Give them an encounter worthy of a level up

[normal junco]

tell them that either they need to earn the XP or they have to reach a certain point or accomplish a certain thing to trigger a milestone level up.