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ashen forge
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Yeah, kinda

clever path
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then nothing google gives me, they just exist

ashen forge
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Okie

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Thx

crude blaze
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Yeah, that tends to be the general consensus. They’re not inherently good or evil from an alignment perspective, they’re just forces of nature with motives we don’t understand.

clever path
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they arent even evil technically

crude blaze
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At most, they might be evil to mortals, but you know. Different perspectives.

ashen forge
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I really wish there was a cleric domain for them

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It would fit my characters vibe

clever path
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all cleric domains are suggestions

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also I would typically argue a cleric of Hadar wouldnt exist as they aernt a proper god that responds to mortals, hence warlock bonds instead

ashen forge
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True, tho it does say in xanathers that clerics can also worship an ideal. But that doesn't really help

clever path
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an ideal is different from an entity that gives power. both can be sources, but I'm saying you would not likely 'actually' get power from Hadar.

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similar to how Clerics of Vlaakith are not actually getting power from her

crude blaze
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The relationship between someone and an elder evil tends to line up more with Warlocks than Clerics anyways

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That said, the relationship between a Warlock and their Patron tends to be more transactional than that between a Cleric and their god.

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Kinda why I personally don’t tend to make GOOs/elder evils available to Clerics right off the bat.

ashen forge
coarse hull
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Is there any more hidden lore about Laduguer, the god of the Duergar (Grey Dwarves). I found a little bit, but not very much of it

feral lintel
coarse hull
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I've looked there

feral lintel
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theres a bit more lore in Tome of Foes, but thats all covered in the wiki iirc

coarse hull
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Because my character is sharing a body with Laduguer, so me and my dm are trying to find some cool things to add to the campaign to tie my character in more

feral lintel
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also, its worth to note:

In 1383 DR, Laduguer and Deep Duerra were both destroyed[4] and their home plane of Hammergrim dispersed into the Astral Plane[4]. Most Worshipers of Laduguer did not realize this, however, as Asmodeus took up the guise of Laduguer in an effort to gain more followers.

crude blaze
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The wiki also lists a bunch of sources for more info.

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Probably not free, but the sources are there.

zinc gust
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I was thinking of a character to make and was browsing through different dieties and I think I've settled on Eilistraee. The lore for them is super interesting. I think a Seldarine Drow Bard would go great with her as a patron. And the whole premise of her trying to return the drow to the surface and reconciling with the surface elves and live peacefully is cool.

worn plinth
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So, I have been looking into Time Gods and I need some info on Amaunator after the Second Sundering. I read that the Domain of Time became his after regaining the status of a Greater Deity around the Second Sundering. I’m already aware of Chronos/Labelas Enoreth but I’m trying to also have a human centric god of time in my Setting.

ashen forge
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Can I have an elder brain as my patron? (The Many subclass)

feral lintel
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The Many Subclass is third party, and thats a question to ask your DM

ashen forge
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Good point

drowsy wraith
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Is there such a thing as the feywild and shadowdark intersecting in dnd

polar summit
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Hey, I got question about Notic's

candid shard
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L5

cinder cloud
cinder cloud
cinder cloud
worn plinth
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@cinder cloud this what I decided to settle on when it came to time in my setting.

Time Gods Amaunator of Native Faerun Time Magic and Labelas Enoreth of Elven Time Magic.

The Nexus of Time is a construct that is like the Weave of Magic. That is why both Amaunator and Labelas Enoreth are needed for it to follow properly on Astolis. They work in tandem to make sure the Nexus isn’t disrupted or corrupted by malevolent interlopers. Also, Amainator works closely with Mystra to help guard the secrets of major time magic and time travel. While Labelas Enoreth does the same with Corellon.

polar summit
polar summit
cinder cloud
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What you do with them is up to you.

polar summit
jagged apex
inner trellis
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Have Urds ever been mentioned in current (5e) lore?

scarlet sigil
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As far I can see, there is a singular mention in Chapter 1 of Tyranny of Dragons / Hoard of the Dragon Queen

inner trellis
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Ohhh! Good enough for me!

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Thanks!

calm crest
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They also have a statblock, although I believe it’s only referred to as “winged kobold.”

feral lintel
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Urds are just the name for winged kobolds given by other kobolds yeah

inner trellis
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Oh HECK yes! I couldnt find them due to only searching for "Urd"

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Got all the info I needed once switching to "Winged Kobold".

serene crater
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quick question, though is it possible for a mortal to become a demon in FR?

crude blaze
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Pretty sure that's what manes are

jagged apex
cinder cloud
serene crater
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I forgot that could happen in death, but is it possible either when they are alive or if they could retain their old memories post demon transformation

heady hare
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How is relation between half orcs and dragonborns? I am developing the story of my character who is a dragonborn who was banished from his clan. I am thinking of him staying at a half orc village for some time before he started the adventure

clever path
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There isn’t a set relation

feral lintel
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What setting as well

heady hare
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I imagine there would be certain default attitude. Like humans and others would generally dislike orcs, goblins etc

calm crest
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Not necessarily true for every setting. Not every setting even has orcs, leg alone dragonborn.

heady hare
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Setting is mostly forgotten realms

feral lintel
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In FR, they dont have any outright relationship

pallid flower
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May also depend on specific group

cinder cloud
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But as far as specific relationships between the two? Nothing notable.

jagged apex
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as long as you are not a true dragon, in the forgotten realms at least, they will be pretty open minded about other races on average

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like to my knowledge tieflings similarly viewed the way half orcs are and thus the two tend to get along, so if they are tolerent towards tieflings, i see no reason this would not extend towards half-orcs too

feral lintel
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what are some creatures that might lair or live with cloud giants

jagged apex
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those that live in the air, in a particular cloud giant's menagerie or really high mountains if memory serves so some kinds of dragons and other flying creatures or those that live in places high up

feral lintel
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ic ic. Trying to flesh out a cloud giant's stronghold, and was wondering if there are any creatures that just gather around them

calm crest
feral lintel
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ooh, right Spotted Lions!

jagged apex
feral lintel
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... right, ive neglected that book for too long

lethal crater
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G’day lads, lasses and undecided! I kinda need help, I want help with a brain exercise regarding cross dimensional politics between water deep and the United state government

feral lintel
lethal crater
heady valve
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Does anybody know of a podcast, YouTube series, or the like that covers most if not all D&D lore for the Forgotten Realms? I really wanna get to know some lore and I figured that this’d be the best place to start

feral lintel
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A.J. Pinkett(?) has a YT channel

heady valve
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Thanks pal I’ll check them out

jagged apex
feral lintel
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i knew i got something wrong, thank you Scarlet! 🙇

crude blaze
feral lintel
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does ashardalon have any titles?

amber shell
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It's also called Lore You Should Know

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Or LYSK for short

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The Lore You Should Know video lists starts with Anauroch Desert. With Adam Lee!

jagged apex
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at least in published materials, which makes sense to a degree i guess if he is still held up in his lair in his bid to live forever or what ever

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cuz if i am not mistaken most of the titles and aliases given to a dragon is usually by the "lesser" races as the dragon would view them, based on the dragon's acts

worn plinth
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Looking for starting places on achieving godhood in Forgotten Realm lore

calm crest
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Karsus’ Avatar is the only guaranteed way, but has a number of reasons why it’s unobtainable in the modern era.

worn plinth
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It doesn’t have to be anything for a player character more like a Big Bad Evil Guy/Non-Player guy. I was kind of thinking like a step approach,

calm crest
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KA does have some highly exotic ingredients that are known (and some unknown), and time travel back to the age of Netheril when high magic existed is still possible.

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So getting the components and finding a temporal conduit could all be steps of achieving godhood.

worn plinth
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Okay, that’s a starting point.

calm crest
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Killing a god (possibly with the assistance of a god) is also a known method of achieving godhood, such as during the Time of Troubles.

worn plinth
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I was kind thinking of taking approach that doesn’t include Lichdom but still has the person be immortal.

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I really like killing the god idea or like amassing enough divine energy to become a god.

calm crest
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Vampirism? Becoming a god’s Chosen? Having a large number of Clones stashed away? Being petrified?

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These are how some other major figures have achieved immortality in the Realms.

worn plinth
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I went with the Mind Transfer and Clone approach

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I made it they’ve been able to imbue in their cloned bodies a high level of regeneration and agelessness. However, they still need to transfer their consciousness to new bodies because of the extreme mental and physical exertion of their Arcane Research.

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I think I found something that’ll help me online about how Bane, Bhaal, and Myrkul’s process of harvesting Divine Sparks to become demigods and then trying to kill a god.

jagged apex
worn plinth
calm crest
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Well, if it's not in Realmspace, a lot of what was discussed doesn't apply. Different worlds have different rules for godhood.

worn plinth
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Like the gods kind of settled this world Starting with Bahamut and Tiamat; Then the other gods with their pilgrims initially from the realm of Toril or souls chosen to be resurrected by their patron God.

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So, I could put my own spin on Forgotten Realm stuff without having to worry too much cannon stuff. However, I started to have to check the lore when it came to larger themes

eager bay
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So have the events of Bg3 been canonized or no?

storm dagger
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They are presumably semi broadly canon

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There are tons of variables so it’s unlikely any FR source will outright say what happened.

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The upcoming FR setting book next year will talk about Baldur’s Gate. So we will presumably learn who the current leaders are in the aftermath

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Maybe stuff like Rolan running Sorcerous Sundries now

feral lintel
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IIRC, it falls under another continuity

pallid flower
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^ modules, novels, etc are all one path the canon could take, not what the canon actually is

storm dagger
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Like I am pretty sure stuff related to it will be mentioned by the upcoming setting book next year

jagged apex
jagged apex
# eager bay So have the events of Bg3 been canonized or no?

yes and no, there is no 1 canon, but so far in published materials none of the events have been referenced so we do not know what events occurred or in what way if any so far, it is specific to it's own canon, anything else is yet to be confirmed as being applicable to any other, best you will get is the consolidation that the forgotten realms wiki attempts much like it does with the various editions

storm dagger
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I bet two new Dukes will be mentioned in the upcoming setting guide

grim siren
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If anything is "Canonized" It will be the narrative path that changes the world the least. That is the Replace Your Divots ideology that feeds into the realms since 2014.

BG3 assumes an ending to Descent Into Avernus. The 2024 DMG while undated, reinforces that assumption. As a newer book. We will see but I have a figure that the world state if advanced will be the one that changes the world the least.

storm dagger
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||Like I am pretty sure that Ravengard is alive, and the Absolute were defeated will be part of it||

grim siren
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Yes, I am certain those will be mentioned but the specifics unless mentioned in another medium will be murky.

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BG1 and BG2 were not accepted into FR canon until those terrible trilogy of novels canonized them and gave us the default Bhaalspawn of Abdel Adrian. Who was then referenced in the DnDNext playtest Murder in Baldur's Gate

storm dagger
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Not quite FR canon follows the games more, as the novels are not consistent with future events

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Abdel is also the name of the first Pregen in the games

jagged apex
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each form of media is it's own continuity

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so even when referenced, they are not bound to any specific outcomes and events could play out differently, they are will all come down to any mandates and specifics from the higher ups or the author of what ever may reference it

grim siren
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Prior to the 2021 statement on canonicty which is not available anymore IIRC, Printed Materials Handled by TSR/WOTC always took precedence over other media.

runic cave
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Why is North Reckoning called North Reckoning?

storm dagger
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What is North Reckoning It’s not something I have heard of?

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Oh it’s one of the time systems

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It’s called North Reckoning cause it originated in the north like how Dale Reckoning is called as such cause it came from the Dalelands

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Checking details and NR largely fell out of use in favour of DR

tacit spear
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And now I'm over here, with an odder inquiryt

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For D&D based fanfictions, how do people feel about non-human protagonists?

clever path
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Drizzt is literally the most popular D&D character with a book series.

crude blaze
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Not a short series either. I think it’s just shy of 40 books.

inner trellis
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I have googled around a bit about a question I had, and this topic seems to be a huge source of arguments for some reason.
I have seen threads of people going absolutely hog wild :D
But because of that, I still have no idea which is the correct answer, if there even is one.

Are non-sentient undead flesh/bone puppets on magical strings, or do they still have a soul?

feral lintel
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depends on the specific undead

feral lintel
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What is Yin-C Ban the duke of again? hes one of the elemental evils right?

modest badger
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Air, yep

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Although Winddukes are a different thing

worn plinth
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Also, Happy Holidays to Everyone in the Thread!!!!!!!

tacit spear
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Merry Christmas to those here

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Also to clarify, I asked my question because I was going to write a Fanfiction seeing a non-human protagonist. Just still making sure people are interested in those while I theorycraft things, like design and whatnot

tacit spear
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So, with that, I've a question. Y'all mind if I ramble for a bit while awaiting a lift to a Christmas event?

modest badger
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Ask away! Although note that this is meant to be the channel to discuss official lore, so theories and worldbuilding might be a better option for #dm-world-building .

tacit spear
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In my defense, this would be more for writing D&D stories, such as Fanfiction. I wasn't sure which channel would be ideal for that, as I was referred here.

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Would this be better suited for Arts and Crafts, technically?

ionic rivet
storm dagger
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Also Yan-C-Bin

teal rock
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Are there undead oozes?

tacit spear
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If I write Fanfiction, it'd be uploaded to AO3 or Fanfiction.net given...well I don't want to drown chat with that. I'm not even sure Discord can handle it. Never tried. Seems like a fun litmus test to conduct down the road.

jagged apex
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and is listed as being a type so at least in older editions they were a thing

tacit spear
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I do have a lore question. For illithid psionic seals, could a non-illithid possibly learn how to use them and imbue them into items or themselves?

teal rock
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What about raising a slain ooze?

jagged apex
teal rock
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I'm guessing we don't have anything like that? Talking about stuff such as plasmoids or ochre jellies that have been raised from the dead.

jagged apex
serene crater
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quick question for demon princes. In order for them to ascend, do they need a domain much like how gods need a unique domain to ascend?

tacit spear
jagged apex
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well where the lore leaves blanks that is usually where the DM or reader is encouraged to fill in the gaps with their own logic

jagged apex
tacit spear
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So theoretically, a non-illithid could utilize Psionic Seals.,

jagged apex
serene crater
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the main reason I ask is because demons like orcus and zuggtmoy have specific titles for what they're demon lords of, but hmm

jagged apex
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the titles are largely self declaired

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they basically claim over something and fashion themselves around that to seem to any lesser beings, like mortals, that don't know any better almost god like

serene crater
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I see

jagged apex
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or they otherwise are something core to their identiy, such as orcus being the prince of undeath, he despises the living, mortals, demons, even other undead, his end goal is to be the last living/unliving concious in the multiverse and any thing else just be an extension of his will

serene crater
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i see

jagged apex
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and with him seemingly at the cost of true god hood effectively created a means by which he will always come back as he has died multiple times where any other being would have died for good, so his acts are more so to speed the process along, as he honestly could just wait for the natural death of the multiverse, but he really wants that peace and quite, so he ain't really gunna do that if he can speed things up

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demon princes are basically the big players among the demon lords

serene crater
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alrighty. that def helps as I'm trying to cook up a bbeg's plan to become a demon lord, though I wasn't sure of the rules other than conquring an abyssal layer

jagged apex
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well with technically infinite layers and some of the known ones not even having a known demon lord, the published lore definitely gives you plenty to work with

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is just some of those layers they have no lord is do to it being so difficult even for them to survive in let along alone do so for the 30 days or rule it

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heck, forget which but i believe juiblex and orcus teamed up and just completely wrecked one layer that had a portal to hell once that hell was using as a back door in the blood war, if i am not mistaken but the portal of course no longer works

jagged apex
# serene crater alrighty. that def helps as I'm trying to cook up a bbeg's plan to become a demo...

basically it does not care who or what you are, if you prove you are strong enough to rule, the abyss will grant you the power and title should you prove you are strong enough, presumably why you need to conquer a layer and maintain control for 30 days straight, of course will likely twist your mindset to be more chaotic evil and to the nature of demons, but that is a bit less clear if that is something the abyss actually does to your perception/world view so feel free to take that bit with a grain of salt

serene crater
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alrighty, thanks for that info. It'll help out with what I'm planning

eager bay
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Strange qustion any link to the Dragonborn from befor they showed up are the the ones from dragonlance?

serene crater
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no, those are draconians

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dragonborn hail from another realm entirely

eager bay
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is there a good link to read there history vs well the voids or dislocation of having a lore

serene crater
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the FR wiki might have it, though I don't think that's in violation of the rules

jagged apex
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they are completely unrelated

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draconians are magically mutated and birthed from corrupted true dragon eggs

eager bay
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Yeagh not a great explanation kind of hints they were the ones from Dragonlance. they kind of were in an evil alliance kind of controlled and broke away. hence they could be

jagged apex
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there are no dragonborn in dragonlance

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at least to my knowledge

eager bay
jagged apex
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no, fundimentally dragonborn and draconians are entirely different entities, they look similar in some cases, but are not the same nor related

eager bay
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If all terninators were man killing terminators we as humans would not look at one and go of that's a borg

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oh well no info leaves a big open ? to play with

jagged apex
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that has literally nothing to do with this situation

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you can do what you want in your games at your table, but what is and is not in published materials is another matter entirely

eager bay
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there is no official lore that says they are not the descendants to the draconians. the little bit of the dragonborn lore says they were once part of an evil and they were troops that sounds like they use of the draconians.

jagged apex
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-_-

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that is not how that works, we literally know for a fact they are two entirely different beings and have no relation to one another

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cuz we also have also literally nothing even suggesting a connection

eager bay
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i'm not here to argue hoss i was looking for a D&D provided bit of information since i can see in the forgotten realm how the dragonborn came from somewhere else. they were once a shock troop race. That they do not talk abought who they use to be and why they came to the forgotten realms. that they may have chosen the name dragonborn vs staying with Draconian is by far a more likely. hence the reason i was hopeful to find a D&D released link that says so.

jagged apex
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well you could have asked that rather than just spouting stuff about them and draconians

eager bay
jagged apex
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a lot of their lore is uncertain, but is contained to the forgotten realms setting and narrowed down to a hand full of beliefs among their people

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dragonborn have nothing to do with dragonlance

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which i tried to explain to you

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it would have been clearer to have simply asked is there any published history on the dragonborn as we know them today?

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because again, they have no connection to the dragonlance setting, thus the question did not really make any sense, so i thought you were under some misinformation so i tried to clear it up for you

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as for draconians, info on them is consolidated on the setting's deticated wiki if you do not have fizban's treasury of dragons of the 5e dragonlance materials

feral lintel
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Draconians are made from corrupted eggs of true dragons, entirely different from dragonborn

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iirc, the module itself says that dragonborn players would be from another setting/world

spring wedge
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Hello all

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Do beholders regrow their eyestalks?

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Do slaadi’s gets keep control over them between transformations (ie red slaadi gem all the way to death slaadi)? Can they have multiple gems having control over them?

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Plotting for a campaign

clever path
jagged apex
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though they likely could via magical or otherwise unnatural means, spells and potions of regeneration are a thing even if hard to acquire

jagged apex
jaunty idol
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Is the aberrant dragonmark at all connected to actual dragons

split crystal
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I believe it’s attached the the Dragon Gods mostly?

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The Ebberon ones that made the world

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Including the one named “Ebberon”

jagged apex
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far as i know it is connected to dragons the same way as the others, just the aberration is do to it manifesting on a different race than the others and thus is kind of a mutation of these things

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these should provide more/better context

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technically it's nature is unknown but is somehow connected to the progenator dragons and heavily studied by true dragons of eberron because with their incredably long life spans they are one of if not the only such creatures that can do so

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it's more so connect to the setting, which is made from the bodies of the 3 progenator dragons according to it's creation myth last i checked

spring wedge
dusky pond
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Have Lolth clerics and other worshippers ever been on the surface to enact Lolth's will in the FR?

feral lintel
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do night time raids count

eager bay
dusky pond
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Noted, thanks.

eager bay
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i Love running Drow undercity games.

dusky pond
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I have a surface drow who acts as a free agent/acolyte of Vhaeraun, Eilistraee, and Vandria Gilmadrith, and through his pacts he does special jobs for all three but he primarily worships Vandria.

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So I was trying to learn more about Lolth Drow as they tie into his backstory.

hazy flower
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can vampirism be cured in 5e?

scarlet sigil
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Yes, kind of.
The monster manual says that a wish spell could be used to accomplish this. Killing the vampire and resurrecting them the usual way would also work.

hazy flower
scarlet sigil
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It seems so, yeah. Although the soul they do have is probably in pretty rough shape after a while.

hazy flower
calm crest
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The soul of a vampire’s host body does go to an afterlife whilst the vampire is animate, at least in some cases.

storm dagger
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Intelligent Undead keep their souls in their body.

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Or literally are their corrupted souls

calm crest
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It is the case for Shadow Sun vampires, at least, which is an admittedly obscure example.

eager bay
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Is there a main source for the DnD lore? Like a players handbook for the context around people, places, things, etc.?

unkempt merlin
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There are many different settings, all with different lore

eager bay
cinder cloud
versed hare
tacit spear
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I got a question about Yuan-ti

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Malisons can essentially appear in any form so long as it's heavily serpentine, yeah?

eager bay
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Appreciate the info @versed hare and @cinder cloud !

jagged apex
tacit spear
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Another inquiry, a continuation of the Psionic Seals topic. With how little info there exists on them, DMs and storytellers can just...drum up what they can do, yes?

jagged apex
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yeah that is basically how it works in regards to anything with little or not hyper specific and super detailed info in the lore

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and dnd in general to be honest, is not really exclusive to the lore

mental cloak
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Are there any living notable Black Dragons in 5e lore?

feral lintel
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Ebonde- wait living

jagged apex
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the two Wyrms of the Mere i find interesting as to my knowledge is rather rare for chromatic dragons to get along or worth together, let alone twin black dragons, given black dragons are renowned for their cruelty

ionic rivet
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🧹 cleaning things up - and back to official D&D lore discussion

tidal quiver
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srry if this isnt the right spot to ask but anyone got reading recs? i've been reading thru avatars and faith cuz ive been interested in the pantheon for the forgotten, does anyone have anything newer that covers similar stuff?

scarlet sigil
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Chapter 6 of the new DMG has some pretty tightly and well written overall summaries of general DnD cosmology, well worth a look.

jagged apex
tidal quiver
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i did say forgotten ya i meant forgotten realms

jagged apex
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well there is none

tidal quiver
jagged apex
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as i said, there are many pantheons in the forgotten realms

tidal quiver
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judging by the sources in this page i fear there may be more books for me to read....

jagged apex
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the forgotten realms wiki consolidates and sometimes summarizes info from the various editions the setting has been involved in so if wanting detail and viewing it in a sort of singular timeline kind of manner, that would be a good place to start and check the sources cited to see the full context

tidal quiver
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how can u say there are none and then that thats so mean haha

jagged apex
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because there is no 1 pantheon for the entire setting

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faerun is only 1 continent on 1 specific world in the setting

scarlet sigil
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Hm. So 5e didn't go much in-depth about FR in a collected effort outside of SCAG, and that was only really for the sword coast.

Ed Greenwod has produced an absolute insane amount of details, but it's mostly distributed in the old setting guides they brought out.

Look for Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide and Grand History of the Realms

jagged apex
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to my knowledge there is no flat out setting wide pantheon that would otherwise just be every single god worhsiped in the setting

feral lintel
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The elves have their own, the dwarves, the duergar, the drow, they all have their own pantheons

scarlet sigil
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Perhaps DriveThruRPG has pdfs of those old guides.

jagged apex
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yes, those are specific species and cultures

tidal quiver
jagged apex
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the forgotten realms is the entire setting created by ed greenwood and all the worlds that make it up

tidal quiver
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thank you everyone else for the suggestions im noting them down catcrazy

jagged apex
jagged apex
tidal quiver
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i want... books... on the pantheons....

jagged apex
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well those are mainly something you are only gunna find in older editons or 3rd party

ionic rivet
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Start with the FR wiki and then check their sources if you need more.

jagged apex
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mainly 2e and 3e in regards to older editions

jagged apex
scarlet sigil
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"Faiths And Pantheons" from 2002 may be valuable to you

tidal quiver
jagged apex
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just remember that book is specifically for 3e, so any edition beyond that, it may not all apply, only anything not directly contradicted by newer lore

tidal quiver
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i was more hoping for like reading recomendations rather than penning thru citations in wiki pages...

feral lintel
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As much as i hate it, SCAG and Tome of foes could be potential sources for 5e

tidal quiver
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yay scag explodes

feral lintel
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Tome of Foes i enjoyed, although it was more about the cultures then a bit about their gods

tidal quiver
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wouldnt hurt to learn about their cultures too

jagged apex
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well to my knowledge there is not just flat out books in recent years dedicated to such things and novels are technically their own continuity so anything they might contribute is questionable until reiterated in sourcebooks and or adventures or at least referenced

tidal quiver
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personally i think cultures compared to their religion is usually rather invaluable in learning y things are

jagged apex
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if you are wanting to do that, you may wanna keep this page bookmarked, as there are lot of pantheons in the setting some specific to races and their cultures, others more so a collective consciousness of the people of a part of one of the worlds https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Pantheons

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those listed on the forgotten realms wiki have at least some history connected them to the setting even though in some cases only parts of those pantheons would get involved and become part of other pantheons over time

jagged apex
tidal quiver
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thanks but again i'm not looking for wiki recomendations...

feral lintel
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I mean, you can always check out their sources

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as previously mentioned

tacit spear
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Another flick here, but with Psionic Seals, and how open ended they are, theoretically, would it be possible for an illithid to use them to imbue psionic powers into weapons? I ask because Mind Blades exist, and those are just psionic swords, so the idea could work in theory, yes?

tidal quiver
mental cloak
tacit spear
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So, Psionic Seals and items? Seems feasible from a lore standpoint, yes?

jagged apex
tacit spear
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Hmm, curious. So an innovative mind flayer could design a suit of armor using Psionic Seals, flavored like mystic abilities, and fight a party"?

jagged apex
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honestly this sounds more so like you are asking about for the sake of your own games in which case it does not really matter, but far as i can tell yes, but the catch would be similar to the similar items that were introduced in volo's guide to monster, though that is legacy now so not entirely sure if those items are ment to be taken into consideration

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not sure there is any one specific sources but any of the ones that focus on covering and describing the planes would be the place most likely

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also it varies from layer to layer

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like avernus is basically a wasteland where it regularly rains literal fire

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honestly, best source for that would likely be the 5e adventure decent into avernus if wanting a 5e source as the bulk of that takes place in that layer

unkempt merlin
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Tons of different biomes. Even within a single layer.

Most layers have a general "climate" but still have a lot of variation

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The most common biome in Avernus for example, is a sort of desert wasteland. But it's got forests, mountains, swamplands, and more in different places. As well as more fantastic environments like lava riverlands and the likes.

tacit spear
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I have one final question, but I'll hold it. The topic of Avernus' layout is quite interesting.

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Kinda didn't think actual hell would have a biome.

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I mean this with complete seriousness

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I thought it was just fire and actual mayhem down there

jagged apex
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it's kind of meaningless, as pointed out in the adventure, infinite in scale makes travel via the conventional means a pain

calm crest
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Even the plane of Mechanus, the place of perfect order, has climatic variation between regions.

jagged apex
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if they acquire one, more or less

tacit spear
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I'll ask my question, then. Entryways to the Underdark are everywhere and in hard to reach areas, yes?

unkempt merlin
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Can be

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Entrances to the underdark are mostly just. Caves.

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So sometimes they are fairly easy to access, sometimes not

tacit spear
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So for a lot of caves, there's a 75% chance one slip and someone's sent to D&D Brazil

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I use Brazil not as an insult to the actual locale

feral lintel
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Theres no real stastic, but yeah

tacit spear
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But for the meme

jagged apex
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the wiki even includes the image of avernus and even the map that was included in the adventure which at least would give you a general sense of major locations in relation to one another, but the distances between them are basically not gunna be a static thing so the infernal engines are the optimal way to my knowledge to get around

tacit spear
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So thereotically, would there be Underdark entryways out in Chult?

jagged apex
tacit spear
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Curious. I'll remember that.

jagged apex
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honestly if you are familiar with the monsterverse, the underdark in dnd is not too different from the hallow earth

tacit spear
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My understanding of the Underdark largely relates to Never Go into the Underdark

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Purely because it's incredibly dangerous

jagged apex
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yeah but there are still people that live there

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and other creatures, it is dangerous by a normal person's standards, that is why is kind of a dumb idea to intentionally go into the underdark unless you are an adventurer or someone that is otherwise very powerful and can defend yourself

tacit spear
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True. I'll research into it further.

coarse hull
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Duergar slave trade lives in the underdark

crude blaze
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The new DMG actually kinda touches on this (and I think the Nine Hells were discussed lightly in MToF too). Avernus is mostly a desert wasteland and warzone, Dis is a bunch of canyons that house an infernal metropolis, Minauros is a smelly bog, Phlegethos is volcanic and ash-covered with rivers of magma (classic archetypal "Hell"), Stygia is a frigid tundra surrounded by a frozen sea, Malbolge is a "seemingly endless mountain slope", Maladomini is a ruin-covered urban wasteland, Cania is another frozen wasteland (though beyond the explicit difference of a frozen sea, not much is mentioned about how that differs from Stygia), and Nessus is a realm full of pits with fortresses built into them and Asmodeus's lair sprouting out of a massive chasm like a giant stalagmite.

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Very vague descriptions from 5E material, but still enough to at least build upon, I think.

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If you can get your hands on it, I would recommend checking out Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes for some basic information on the Nine Hells and their archdevils. It's only the (iirc) first chapter of the book and also includes information on the demon lords and their respective layers of the Abyss. It's not enough to give you every last detail, but might at least be enough to get the gears grinding.

calm crest
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2e’s Planes of Law or the Manual of the Planes would be older sources that should still mostly be accurate, other than changing rulers.

crude blaze
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Yeah, there are plenty of older sources out there with a lot more detail than what 5E offers, but 5E's philosophy for the most part has been to give a vague idea for you to make your own.

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Which I understand is not very helpful if you're looking for specific details, but hey. I only know 5E, so that's all I've got to offer 😅

grand wyvern
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Why is it called the "Forgotten" realms?

ionic rivet
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Well beyond the "because that's what Ed Greenwood (original creator of setting) called it, I think it's because there have been so many kingdoms/realms/cultures/civilizations that have risen and fallen in the setting. Can't really go anywhere without running into evidence of them, but many have disappeared into the ages without having a name, e.g. forgotten.

grand wyvern
calm crest
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“Forgotten Realms” isn’t an in-universe name. As far as I know, no one in Realmspace actually calls it that.

ionic rivet
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Okay folks let's keep things on topic

grand wyvern
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So what's the oldest known civilization in the mythos? I'm not sure if "first" is applicable here but who were the "first" people of the forgotten realms?

calm crest
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Kinda depends on what you mean by civilization. It also depends on what setting you’re asking about.

jagged apex
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far as i know the furthest back we know of civilization of any kind in the forgotten realms is during the days of thunder, back when Abeir and Toril were still one singular planet known as Abeir-Toril

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but that is not the only planet that has people living on it in the forgotten realms setting, but it is the main one that is focused on most often

calm crest
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The aboleth are also known to be older than almost every other species.

jagged apex
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true but most might not count them, so take your pick more or less

brisk hound
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Stygia is a sheet of ice floating on a frozen sea. Cania is a glacier hundreds of miles thick. Cania is the least habitable layer of hell, and temperatures get as low as -60⁰F(-50⁰C) Cania is more similar to the plane of ice

cinder cloud
grand wyvern
cinder cloud
serene crater
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quick question in regards to holidays in FR. are there any dedicated to Asmodeus by any chance

cinder cloud
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Hm. None that I can currently find.

silent atlas
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Was there a beholder that held the title of xanathar during the spell plague

queen spire
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What would a half-orc half-Drow be called?

clever path
queen spire
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I mean, I’ve heard a lot of portmanteau names for the half races

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Dwelves

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Olf

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Gnelf

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Gwarf

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Dorc

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Droc

jagged apex
drowsy nymph
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i see alot of this humans fighting or whatever with elves
diversity or something idk if its the right word, im not english
is that a lore thing? or just people deciding to separate them like that

polar summit
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hey, what are the powers of the mind flayers called? I mean, I know its mind control and psionics, but isn't there a category that it all falls under or something?

scarlet sigil
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They've had that since being introduced in AD&D

serene crater
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Its either psionics or the arcane, which the latter is taboo to illithids

polar summit
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thanks for clearing that up.

cinder cloud
drowsy nymph
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ah makes sense, time and period i see

cinder cloud
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And setting and location

drowsy nymph
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yes yes
thank you

teal rock
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Can an awakened beast learn spells?

obsidian gate
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theoretically, sure

cinder cloud
teal rock
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But I am not concerned with rules. I'm concerned with the lore.

cinder cloud
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Whether or not a creature can do something is a matter of rules, not lore.

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If you are asking if there are any awakened creatures who have ever learned spells, that's a different story

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(And there are none, as far as I know)

teal rock
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That doesn't make sense. I want to know if something such as an awakened rabbit or deer can learn magic the same way a human or elf might.

jagged apex
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the forgotten realms wiki should give you what you need regarding magic from a lore standpoint

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anything that it does not, is more likely to be a rules or mechanics thing

teal rock
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I'm asking if a specific kind of creature has the ability to learn magic.

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I'm not concerned with mechanics so I'll keep using this channel until a mod actually tells me I'm in the incorrect channel. Thank you.

modest badger
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Mechanics and Lore can intercept, but in this case the only thing I think that can support this is mechanics and 'Nothing says they can't'.
Savage Species from 3.5 went into how Awakened animals could be spell casters, but how you needed to use best judgement for physiology and if they'd be capable of verbal or somatic components.

I however cannot recall any specific canon characters that are representative of awakened animals as spell casters.

So what sort of lore would you be looking for?

teal rock
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I'm mainly wondering if I could turn a harmless looking creature into an an enemy warlock or wizard.

jagged apex
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far as i know most if not all intelligent beings can learn magic, though study is often difficult via being expensive or a magic user willing to teach you being hard to find, but far as i know nothing prevents one from doing so, but obviously they would not be able to perform the gestures needed for Somatic components, depending on their biology and anatomy, thus limiting their capabilities. nothing i can find in the 2024 books suggests they can't

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but given historically it was possible in a past edition, if there is nothing more resent that says they can't, i see no reason to assume they can not still potentially learn given they now have sufficient intelligence to actually understand the concepts needed when learning magic, least in the manner wizards do

jagged apex
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so either way you should be good

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i doubt it would be the strangest thing in the multiverse

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heck some animals/creatures are out right naturally able to replicate the effects of certain spells historically even

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magic in dnd is as much a part of the universe as things like space, time, gravity, ect...

teal rock
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I really like the idea of a bunny rabbit leaping at you and booping you with its paw only for you to receive unholy amounts of necrotic damage.

feral lintel
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Not the rabbit!

jagged apex
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if this is something for your own game specifically , arguably a more fitting palce would have been #dm-world-building

teal rock
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I'm aware I can do anything I want in my games, but I never like to stray too far from the basics of Forgotten Realms lore.

jagged apex
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cuz lore channel is less "what you can" and "can not do" and more so what is stated in published materials

teal rock
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Do archdevils have portfolios just like gods? Just like how Tymora's thing is luck and Abbathor's all about greed?

cinder cloud
pallid flower
teal rock
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I see.

pallid flower
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Not WOTC, but Eberron’s creator has published a 3rd party Worg race, which can use their paws for somatic components

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And have a known subset of casters (in Eberron)

silk lark
coarse hull
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Aren't Duergar the Kings of the underdark slave trade?

feral lintel
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That would be the drow

clever path
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Druegar just keep their slaves for themselves. like Illithids

coarse hull
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Oh

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What are Duergar known for then?

clever path
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Smithing, hating any race that isnt druegar and treating them very poorly within the city, slaves, native magic, hating mind flayers

coarse hull
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Ah, ok

queen spire
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What are Shadowfell natives if Feywild natives are Fey?

feral lintel
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Shadarkai, death giants, among others

queen spire
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Because looking at the Shadar-Kai PC race it lists them as regular humanoids

feral lintel
queen spire
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Yeah I was just looking if there was a general term for those who are native to the Shadowfell

feral lintel
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not really no. The shadowfell is quite the diverse place, especially with the Domains of Dread and their Lords

calm crest
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Beings that have lived in the Shadowfell for an extended period and have become suffused with its energies are sometimes known as Shades.

feral lintel
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iirc, its also a plane representing a lot of negative emotions?

feral lintel
calm crest
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“Shadowspawn” appears to be a generic label similar to the category of Fey.

calm crest
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Overall, seems like the Plane of Shadow lacks a specific term to refer to its inhabitants en masse.

cinder cloud
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Likely closer to Neverwinter, where the High Road is closest to the coast

queen spire
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Can Shadar-Kai be Banished?

cinder cloud
queen spire
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Yes but I mean those native to the Feywild or those changed by exposure to its energies

cinder cloud
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Not every creature native to the feywild, either.

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Fey are magical creatures closely tied to the forces of nature. They dwell in twilight groves and misty forests. In some worlds, they are closely tied to the Feywild, also called the Plane of Faerie. Some are also found in the Outer Planes, particularly the planes of Arborea and the Beastlands. Fey include dryads, pixies, and satyrs. (2014 MM)

unkempt merlin
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A lot of natives of the feywild are, contrary to popular belief, not actually of the Fey creature type yea

cinder cloud
unkempt merlin
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Similarly, while a lot of the natives of the shadowfell are Undead, there are many who are not

queen spire
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Isn’t the entire realm Undead?

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As in it’s made of negative, entropic, necrotic energy?

cinder cloud
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No

coarse hull
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I don't think so

cinder cloud
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It's an "echo" of the material plane, like the Feywild.

crude blaze
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Yeah, I think it's referred to as a "mirror realm"

queen spire
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Yes but in contrast to the Feywild, the Shadowfell is made up of negative energy

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The Feywild is made up of positive energy

cinder cloud
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You are thinking of the Negative and Positive energy planes

queen spire
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Why do Shadar-Kai get necrotic resistance then?

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Is it just because of the Raven Queen?

crude blaze
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Yep

queen spire
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The way I understand it is that the Feywild is a more vibrant echo of the Material Plane

cinder cloud
crude blaze
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While the Shadowfell does have a lot of necrotic energy in specific places, it's not a world of necrotic energy itself

queen spire
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Well what is it made up of then?

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What is Shadowstuff?

reef cape
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Shadows.

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Non-light. Cold.

coarse hull
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Like the upside down from stranger things

reef cape
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Kind of, yes.

cinder cloud
queen spire
cinder cloud
crude blaze
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It's the dark reflection of the Material Realms, so it's mostly made up of a shadowstuff and otherwise just... land.

reef cape
unkempt merlin
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the PEP and NEP are two planes of their own

cinder cloud
reef cape
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Now, the shadowfell can be considered to be about the "low" emotions. Melancholy, sorrow, and other passive things. The feywilds tend to be a bit more active.

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When an archfey gets their heart broken, they don't just get depressed. They entomb themselves in citadels of ice built from their tears and send a curse that haunts the land.

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Creatures from the shadowfell are just naturally gloomy.

crude blaze
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Yeah, the Feywild is a place of extremes, the Shadowfell is more stagnant

true patio
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It should be mentioned that the Shadowfell came about because of the merging of two Inner Planes

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Specifically the Negative Energy Plane and the Shadow Plane

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The Shadow Plane was specifically a dark reflection of the material world

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The negative energy plane was the source and endpoint of all negative energy on the material worlds

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They merged them in 4e because of events as a way to make these planes more interesting exploration targets for PCs

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So saying the Shadowfell is made of necrotic energy isn't wrong just... also incomplete

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Negative energy is the elemental force of Entropy, the end of all things.

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That is also different, somehow, to necrotic damage btw

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Necrotic damage is more like... generic rot

cinder cloud
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Er, the Negative Energy plane wasn't merged with the Shadowfell, as far as I know.

true patio
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I don't know if they continued it in 5e

cinder cloud
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They didn't.

true patio
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Specifically in Forgotten Realms in the Time of Troubles the planar barrier broke down

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They redid a bunch of the planes during that time

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Some stayed, others went back to normal

cinder cloud
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In 4e the FR lore states that Shar siphoned some of the energies from the Negative Energy plane but they did not merge as far as I can tell.

true patio
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After the Spellplague, the Negative Energy plane collapsed into the Elemental Chaos, mixing with all the other Inner Planes.

Huh so that's what the wiki says

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I'll check their source

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The Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide from 2008

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A 4e sourcebook

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So I guess we were both right

feral lintel
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typically, the newer lore supersedes the old

true patio
cinder cloud
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The Negative Energy Plane is back and presented as a physical place (in the form of a dome over the outer planes) in the 5e 2014 PHB appendices

true patio
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Ah I see

cinder cloud
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When they reset everything from the Spellplague, they really did undo pretty much everything

true patio
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Okay then

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That's good

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Seems the Wiki needs updated cause I checked the cited page as well and couldn't find anything refering to the negative energy plane merging with the other planes as well

cinder cloud
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Yeah.

wet roost
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Did 2024 do any big planar reworks?

cinder cloud
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It recognized Exandria and all the M:tG as formal settings (i.e. material planes).

cinder cloud
calm crest
cinder cloud
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Athas was mentioned in 2014, so that's not surprising

calm crest
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Sure, but my point is that the settings mentioned in the DMG aren’t necessarily part of the core cosmology.

cinder cloud
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All settings consist of a primary material plane unless otherwise stated (i.e. Spelljammer, Planescape, Ravenloft, etc.)

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The worlds of D&D are part of an immense cosmos. Most campaigns and adventures play out on worlds on the Material Plane. The rest of the multiverse consists of different planes of existence defined in relation to the Material Plane. (Source: 2024 DMG)

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In addition:

Material Realms. Most D&D worlds are located on the Material Plane, which has two planar echoes: the Feywild and the Shadowfell.

true patio
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Basically this opinion is simply an extension of my dislike of how more than half of all MtG content we'll be getting for the next year will be crossover content instead of offical MtG content.

unkempt merlin
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the IPs were already "merged"
Both Planeswalkers and Exandria were mentioned in other products before the 2024 DMG.

true patio
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I am aware and am not disparaging this. Just lamenting an unfortunate corporate decision unrelated to D&D lore so it is best we move on

crude blaze
cinder cloud
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Missed that, but unsurprising

true patio
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I'm glad to see it making a return

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The concept of entropy being an elemental force always fascinated me

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Particularly with its inverse in the positive energy plane being a thing

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This implies a lot about the physics of D&D worlds

broken gazelle
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Are Reapers/Celestials of Death a thing

cinder cloud
# broken gazelle Are Reapers/Celestials of Death a thing

Assuming you mean the grim reaper type of creature, yes. There are Death Giant Reapers from Bigby's Guide to Giants, there are Reapers of Bhaal in Baldur's Gate: Descent into Avernus, and the Reaper Spirit from the Book of Many Things that is summoned by the Spirit of Death spell. That's just from 5e.

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There is also the entropic reaper from 3.5e Libris Mortis

crude blaze
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There are a couple of reaper-like angels in at least one of the MtG books too

true patio
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I have a question for you

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Which planes have the greatest temporal difference to the material plane naturally?

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My players are pretty high level and one of the concepts they want to explore as a feature in their keep is a time-dilation chamber, either as a trap or as a beneficial feature.

cinder cloud
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Feywild is the only one I know of.

true patio
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Ah answering my own Question: seems this was changed in 3e

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It was a thing in 1 and 2 e but 3e simplified the planescape setting for ease of play

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That said apparently Ebberon had 3 such planes

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As it was never intended for PCs to actually planarly travel there

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And... I'm sad to see they changed the moons from planes/moons to just moons in 5e

unkempt merlin
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?

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In eberron?

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they are still planes, the moons are portals

true patio
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Previously the moons were outright the planes themselves

unkempt merlin
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i don't recall that being the case

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thats why the destruction of the moon prevented dal quor from being reached (easily)

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since it was a powerful portal

true patio
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I certainly do from reading the original material back in 2007

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Previously the moon wasn't destroyed, just powerful magic kept it far away

unkempt merlin
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thats. not true?

true patio
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Idk I'll have to look at the book once again. I own a physical copy and I'm remembering it after not reading it for a couple years now

true patio
pallid flower
dusky pond
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Are surface drow, or just drow in general if they stray from Lolth, allowed to worship Vandria Gilmadrith?

cinder cloud
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There is no "allowing" to worship

jagged apex
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bit of flawed logic there, cuz that would imply they have to follow rules or authority that would determine what they can or can not do

cinder cloud
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Even if worship of a certain god was forbidden, one could always do so in secret

dusky pond
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I only ask bc Vandria is of Dark Elf descent bc of Araushnee, but it wasn't clear if Drow worshipped her or not.

jagged apex
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she is of the Seldarine, not the dark seldarine, thus most drow societies especially that allign with lolth or her pantheon would not likely consider worship of her

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those that break away from lolth's influence i see no reason to believe they would not be open to them, though most such drow more often than not tend to favor Eilistraee given her worshipers are noted as being mainly composed of quote "Drow exiles; drow seeking an alternative to their society"

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but to my knowledge, nothing would stop an individual from worshiping Vandria

dusky pond
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What would be a good plot hook for a male Dark Elf who worshipped Vandria.

jagged apex
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so just going by the wiki, unless you check the sited sources, seems the information is incomplete especially compared to other gods who do have their dogmas detailed

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her most devout worshiper is named " Rauvor Mreldryn" but he does not have a page on the wiki, and comes from a thing on twitter where ed greenwood talked about the god's worship

cinder cloud
dusky pond
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Thank you

cinder cloud
tacit spear
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I got a funny question this time

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Out of all the races in Faerun, which do you think cooks the best

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I speculated halflings, due to LOTR connections, but I wanted to see what people here thought.

feral lintel
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Halflings are known for their hospitality aye

tacit spear
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Ah. Fair enough. I'll circle over to Discussion, then. Thank you!

oblique scarab
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In the forgotten realms who would someone sick pray to for healing? Lathander or Ilmater?

feral lintel
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Lathander is usually revered by elves iirc. Illmater is less culturally chained

oblique scarab
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Thanks

calm crest
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Might be worthwhile to hedge your bets. Most non-priests don’t venerate a single deity exclusively.

true patio
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Ya most people would say something like "please gods give me strength enough to survive"

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They might name Illmater specifically but also their own personal favorite

true anchor
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is it true they might be killing off lolth in 6e?

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or are these jsut random rumors?

ionic rivet
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That sounds like baseless rumors

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They haven't even announced 6th edition or any plans for it.

true anchor
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i gree i am quite annoyed that lolth always supports baenre for zero reason eevn though her protiflo clearly states she's meant to be very random and very chaoetic appreantly banere is "too far" from that

obsidian gate
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also lolth is on the new DMG special cover. she aint going anywhere

true anchor
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i do think that if lolth allowed baenre to collapse it would truly show "no house" is safe from her

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eithier it's a power move to showcase she isnt truly insane or the fact that she's just giving good treatment

heady hare
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Does any magic exists in dnd world where you can transfer consciousness from one body to other?

fleet kindle
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Is it not dumb to be an atheist or an agnostic in the world of DnD?

ionic rivet
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In D&D the gods are real so there isn't really atheists/agnostics.
But there are many who don't worship or follow any gods - basically they don't care if the gods exist or not.

heady hare
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Well atheist is someone who doesn't believe in existence of god, so in dnd world that would be dumb. But not worshipping seems reasonable

crude blaze
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In D&D, the closest you could probably pull off is misotheism, which is the dislike/hatred of the gods

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You acknowledge their existence, but dislike them all the same.

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Cuz like UndyingNoob said, the gods are pretty much confirmed to exist (save for a couple of exceptions, like Eberron where the gods aren't confirmed to exist, which causes a lot of strife between different religions), but in most settings they definitely exist. Hard to deny the existence of something that's confirmed to exist.

ionic rivet
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Good point about some settings not having confirmed deity existence thus allowing some room for atheism/agnosticism.

jagged apex
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is most dnd settings though it is more so where you do not venerate or worship a god or view them as beings worthy of worship, rather than the definition of such thingsi n our own world

jagged apex
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else could be necromancy like with the clone spell

spring wedge
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Like a bunch of pretenders

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And/or believe in a true god unlike all the others

jagged apex
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also lolth worshiping drow society is basically a sort of organized chaos that rewards subterfuge and backstabbing and really only punish those that fail and or get caught

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heck, the reason she does not simply strike drizzt down, is cuz he amuses her, mainly do to the hatred his existence inspires in her followers

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she has honestly never needed much more reason, good or otherwise, to do what she wants other than she wants to

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so it just seems clear that for what ever reason, be it a whim or something house baenre did, they have earned/gained her favor

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honestly i doubt anyone but lolth herself would be capable of knowing why, at least we as the reader definitely can't make sense of her behavior and logic, between being a former elven god and a powerful demon, she is effectively alien twice over compared to the logic and thinking of us humans

pallid flower
cinder cloud
feral lintel
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oh, must have mixed him up with someone else

misty walrus
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So.. my character is a 22 year old paladin knight called Pafiro that has the actual Sun as his patron. and the lore is that the deities of each region rebelled, and used an all out attack to weaken Solaris (the sun) as much as possible. Solaris used its remaining strength to bless a human infant with a limited respawn system (more than 3 deaths each region is PERMANENT death. No loot will be able to be looted when permakilled since it just falls apart along with him like in Elden Ring.), and Solaris sent its Right Hand; Mercury, to guide Pafiro as a spirit when he reached 17. After that, Solaris went into a deep slumber, passively providing safe spaces (basically sites of grace.. like in Elden Ring) around the regions. The rest of the party members might also be those that were blessed by Solaris' Boon since infancy despite their ages since Solaris was beyond time itself, even when gravely weakened. It really depends if my future group will agree to it.

jagged apex
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not really the place for that sort of stuff

cinder cloud
misty walrus
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oh, ight

ember sail
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How would a sea shanty from the sea of swords sound?

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Asking for an illuskan character

true patio
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I think the Drizzt books have a good example

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Look for the ones that focus on Captain Deudermont and his crew

final bronze
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I noticed in the new version of the wish spell, it specifies near the end that if your wish would in any way effect the city of sigil, or its ruler the lady of pain, that the spell fails. What’s up with that? That’s like a really random and specific place lmao

calm crest
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The Lady of Pain doesn’t appreciate anyone tampering with the fulcrum of the multiverse, and has been known to thwart the meddling of greater deities as well.

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In the module Die, Vecna, Die!, the plot revolves around ||Vecna achieving greater godhood while in Ravenloft, then using it as a planar backdoor into Sigil (where deities aren’t normally permitted) in a bid to control the entire multiverse. Not particularly surprising that the LoP would be more thorough now, as her will canonically caused the 2e to 3e transition in the aftermath of her casting Vecna out of Sigil.||

final bronze
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Ah so deep lore stuff

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That’s weird, but cool

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That’s an interesting thing for them to add on to the new wish spell

calm crest
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As Sigil is central to the primary D&D multiverse, and thus somewhat setting neutral, I think the intent is to just solidify the LoP’s status as equivalent in power to an overdeity.

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And is thus an example of very powerful entities possessing veto power on even the mightiest of modern magics.

final bronze
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Oh wow that’s crazy

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Didn’t know there was more than one overdeity

tacit spear
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So quick question, why are worgs fey now?

crude blaze
tacit spear
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Huh. But that raises another concern.

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Why are goblins fey?

crude blaze
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Because in folklore, goblinoids have always been Fey.

tacit spear
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Huh.

crude blaze
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They decided to tie them back into their folkloric counterparts, who were always sort of the “demons” in their respective folklore.

unkempt merlin
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And in lore they've always had heavy connections to the feywild

crude blaze
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And it’s not like goblins haven’t been living in the Feywild for ages now anyways

unkempt merlin
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And, even though the plane wasn't specified, they've been said to have come from a different plane for a long time

crude blaze
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Yeah, I think the most recent lore says that goblins were Fey creatures whose god was killed by Maglubiyet, who then conquered them

tacit spear
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Odd.

true patio
# final bronze Didn’t know there was more than one overdeity

The title of overdeity is something a bit of a misnomer. No overdeity holds power outside their native setting and in theory they can control the gods of that setting but that word specifically has only been used in conjunction with Ao and maybe Io.

The Lady of Pain isn't an overdeity. She's beyond such things. Her rank is Lady of Pain and nothing matches it.

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She's on par with an overdeity in that both are so absurdly powerful that the PCs, gods, or anything cannot effect them or do anything they dislike in their domains.

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Other DMs can homebrew their own overdeities but offical content hasn't really labeled any being of power explicitly an overdeity besides Ao unless they've just recently named LoP as one which I think would be a mistake.

heady hare
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Is the cult of dragons still active? Or completely dissolved? I am thinking of adding a backstory to my evil leaning character, that he was briefly part of it. I could just make it as he was part of some branch or split group of it, even if the main one has been dissolved

cinder cloud
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Yes, the cult of the dragon still exists and is active.

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They recently tried to ||summon Tiamat||

eager bay
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In everyone else's opinion, what is the most terrifying layer of the abyss to be stuck in?

jagged apex
jagged apex
calm crest
jagged apex
calm crest
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There are a few Abyssal layers with no known exits, so that’s worth considering.

jagged apex
ember sail
jagged apex
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like even when vecna basically glitched his way in and became a full fledged god while in the city, cuz back then it apparently took time to take effect, they were in a stalemate, hence why the adventurers in the adventure are an important factor, they basically tip the balance

true patio
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RA Salvator is basically the Tolkien of Forgotten Realms and did a lot of lore stuff for the setting in the 80s

jagged apex
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and she can normally out right keep gods from entering the city of sigil, regardless of their power

calm crest
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Yarp.

jagged apex
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RA Salvator is heavily responsable for the modern depiction of the drow, the rest of the setting that would be it's creator, Ed Greenwood

calm crest
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As I had previously mentioned, the LoP’s power is sufficient to be canonically responsible for the multiversal changes caused by the transition of 2e to 3e.

jagged apex
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but there have also been a hand full of writers allowed to write for the setting which is why there are some people in the realms that resemble earth cultures despite Ed deliberately making sure such things did not exist originally

true patio
jagged apex
calm crest
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Only two gods have even been in Sigil. Vecna, despite failing his scheme, losing much of his power, and having his plan eternally invalidated, was comparably lucky.

jagged apex
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the funny thing is if memory serves, vecna did it by accident, was mainly just trying to escape the domains of dread

calm crest
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Aoskar was much less fortunate.

ember sail
true patio
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I'd give it 7/10 odds that you'll find actual shanties though if you looked there

ember sail
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Closest accent/country to Illuskan anyone?

calm crest
ember sail
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I mean as a real world reference

true patio
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Also generally Illuskans would have an "Illuskan" accent which would be the baseline of the language for common I think? Meaning they wouldn't have an "accent" that is perceptible.

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Either that, Waterdeep or, Baulder's Gate

jagged apex
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dang it, tried to link it but the bot got rid of it cuz it uses the goddess' less than savory name

true patio
jagged apex
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remember, they are not ment to normally corilate to real world cultures or countries, that is something usually added into the setting do to guest or other writers other than the setting's creator

ember sail
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Yeah, a bit of a shame that the types of humans don't work the same ways as Irish, Dutch etc. In the forgotten realms. Thanks, I'll focus my accent more around being a pirate then.

jagged apex
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not really a shame at all

ember sail
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As for sea shanties, any sea shanties sound pirate-y

jagged apex
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heck, would probably cause more problems than good if they did intend 1 to 1s from the get go

feral lintel
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The last time they did something like that, we got the Oriental Adventures....

ember sail
ember sail
jagged apex
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not everything is ment to be detailed and what lore is created may not be what you deem "enough"

feral lintel
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Also, using other cultures as a basis for settings/locations has not gone well in the last attempts

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Again, see Oriental Adventures

jagged apex
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plus the setting's creator, Ed Greenwood easily can answer such questions about specific peoples in the realms, all you gotta do is ask, and then wait

jagged apex
# feral lintel Again, see Oriental Adventures

which they have hesitated to revisit for years now cuz how back then they were more rooted and stereotypes and less than culturally sensitive compared to any attempts that would be made now adays

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but we do know we will be seeing one of those such setting's 5e version in detail with the new wave of realms sourcebooks they teased that will becoming after the revised monster manual, such as Calimshan and debatable if it should be counted in the same vain, but also the Moonshae Isles, both of which have not been detailed since older editions, and only been mentioned in passing in recent editions so far to my knowledge

feral lintel
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If we ever get Kara-Tur again, they better rework it to hell and back

ember sail
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I'd assume the sword coast at least had some specific speech patterns and habits.

jagged apex
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the potentual cultural misrepresentation issues aside, i would like to see a modern official kara-tur, i find that part of the realms interesting as a setting from what i have seen via older materials

feral lintel
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I am hoping they give it a neon dynasty treatment!

jagged apex
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sword coast is pretty easy to find examples of speech in that part of the realms, given how heavily it is focused on, just know that if you go off of media such as film and games, take with a grain of salt as some liberties sometimes are taken

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the recent dnd movie, honor among thieves, is probably one of the easiest examples as in ed's video pointing out the minor nit picks of inaccuracies to the lore and how they could have been fixed, their speech was not one of them

ember sail
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Might just make her a Scottish Pirate and claim to be from far away, since there's so much unknown land.

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Also a Scottish pirate sounds really fun

ember sail
jagged apex
ember sail
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Nice to know there's some culture I can trace it back to though, thanks

jagged apex
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yeah toril has gods from many settings, even our own world, or at least dnd's version of earth, such as the egyptian gods aka the Mulhorandi gods

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and across the forgotten realms too, is just most thiings that are focused on tend to happen on toril mainly

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but as shown with the mulhorandi gods, they obviously may have different names than our world cuz well, those locations are specific to earth, so naturally they would be called something else on an entirely different planet

ember sail
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Why are pantheons such a big part of the lore?

jagged apex
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well they are a part you can focus on and possibly cuz of the fact gods are real and do sometimes get involved, be it directly or indirectly especially with major events

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like most of the ones that caused the in universe reason for the changes between editions is cause the goddess of magic was killed for a various reasons, and them having to learn the hard way why trying to kill or replace mystra is a pretty bad idea

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plus in dnd on worlds like toril where the gods are known fact of existance, is rare for there to be cultures that don't vernate gods of some kind

ember sail
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It'd be great if they added some traits to cultures though, like variation in craftsmanship.

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Gods are such a big part of the forgotten realms, but a good portion of people aren't even religious.

jagged apex
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not everything in dnd is hyper detailed, some have more info than others and others are less cultures and more so ethnicities like Illuskan for example

jagged apex
ember sail
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Ah well, I can't expect them to create whole cultures.

jagged apex
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cuz i would very much not say most people in the forgotten realms are not religious, maybe by real world standards but that is hardly an accurate measure

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like to my knowledge, not being relgious in the forgotten realms would definitely put you in the minority of the population of mortals

ember sail
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Definitely not most people, but acknowledging the gods' existence doesn't mean they're religious.

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It's pretty hard to deny the gods' existence in the forgotten realms, I'm talking more about the worshipping aspect.

jagged apex
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concepts of our own world rarely translate to dnd 1 to 1, this is very much one of those things

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while i could be wrong, i am fairly sure that "religous" implies some different stuff compared to how it is used irl

ember sail
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Cause some drow are like "I worship spider mommy" and others are like "We hate and oppose spider mommy" and the rest are like "I don't really care, did that tiefling give me an std?"

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Best way I could put it idk

jagged apex
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not everyone who is part of a faith is a zealot if that is what you mean

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plus with drow many cities are strutured around the believes and tenants of one of the dark seldarine's faith's the most well known being one of lolth's do to that being where driz'zt comes from

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plus often racial deities are usually heavily rooted in the creation and culture of those races and why they tend to also have their own creation myths

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if you want cultures without as much heavy ties to deities, you might be more at home with the eberron campaign setting

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as the deities of eberron are more like philosophies and not even confirmed if they even exist or not, as divine magic is basically powered directly by one's faith in that setting

tacit spear
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Lorewise, where could cowboys appear in Faerun? Odd question, yeah, but I had an idea for an artificer, and I want to be lore accurate.

cinder cloud
# ember sail It's pretty hard to deny the gods' existence in the forgotten realms, I'm talkin...

Almost all beings in Faerun worship many gods; as a rule, only zealots and clergy venerate just one deity. In other words, a farmer could mainly revere Chauntea, but also pray to appease Talos to keep crop-damaging storms away, Malar to keep beasts from attacking him or his folk in the fields, and to send vermin elsewhere, Talona to keep disease and blight at bay, and so on.
Source: Ed Greenwood Presents: Elminster's Forgotten Realms

cinder cloud
tacit spear
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Huh

cinder cloud
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The ones in Lantan are especially secretive and do not share their knowledge with the rest of the world, let alone travel far from it, at least not freely

modest badger
tacit spear
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So Artificers, according to official lore, are extremely small in number and extremely reclusive

unkempt merlin
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at least in the "traditional" artificer sense

cinder cloud
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They are rare

unkempt merlin
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Artificers (intentionally) have very flexible flavor

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Rock gnomes are not that rare in the FR however

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Plenty of enclaves

tacit spear
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Drat. I was gonna try making High Noon Jhin for a friend's campaign, but wanted to justify how

cinder cloud
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Rock Gnomes are less than 1% of the global population

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They are quite rare compared to the rest of the races

unkempt merlin
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that doesn't mean much in the grand scheme. A lot of groups that are not that rare are less than 1% of a population

tacit spear
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So, theoretically, artificers can't even exist in Faerun, because those who teach the secrets just...don't.

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At all.

unkempt merlin
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Artificers exist in Faerun plenty

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they aren't particularly rarer than say, proper clerics in the realms.

They are just more likely to be more concentrated in areas

tacit spear
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I see.

cinder cloud
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They are not plentiful. They are rare.

tacit spear
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But no yeehaw artificers exist. Which is entirely valid. Just wanted to know to justify a foolish idea. I'll sans it and go with something more managable.

cinder cloud
unkempt merlin
cinder cloud
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Clerics are common

unkempt merlin
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A number of the PC classes are, definitionally, rare

unkempt merlin
tacit spear
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...okay so hang on

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What would be the difference between a priest and an actual cleric, then?

cinder cloud
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As far as classes go, they are common. We've obviously moved from talking about general populations of race to populations of adventurers by class.

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A cleric is chosen by a god

crude blaze
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Not necessarily

cinder cloud
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A priest is just a dude who is a member of the clergy for that god

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We are talking the Realms, so yes

tacit spear
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Ah. So they were directly chosen by their God for a purpose, as opposed to just someone who practice's that God's ideologies.

crude blaze
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Not all clerics serve gods, their power comes from the strength in their beliefs

cinder cloud
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That is not correct in the Realms

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In the Realms, clerics are chosen by the god and bestowed power by them

crude blaze
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A god can choose a cleric, but they don’t need to be involved at all

cinder cloud
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Clerics were elite agents of gods, empowered beyond the capabilities of regular priests and sworn to follow and obey the tenets of their religion in ways that the average mortal couldn't.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Cleric

tacit spear
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...that's a curious thing. But regarding artificers, with this in mind, artificers wouldn't openly advertise being one, then?

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Given how rare they are?

unkempt merlin
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not really any specific answer for that

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In a bunch of different ways, an artificer is very similar to a wizard

obsidian gate
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artificer isnt a job title

cinder cloud
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In 1487 DR, Lantan was returned to Toril as part of the Second Sundering, and Lantanese ships began to travel again to the Sword Coast. People who traded with them said that the Lantanese were more secretive than before, and that their technology was more advanced as well.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Lantan#History

tacit spear
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I meant it more of the lines of someone with the means to artifice wouldn't go about advertising that they can

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Which, given the Faerun, is a valid reason.

cinder cloud
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Again, not necessarily. If they were from Lantan, it's likely they would be secretive.

jagged apex
cinder cloud
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The Imiskari are the only other artificers I know of, and they're all dead

tacit spear
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That gives me something to note for RP. Someone gifted with the means to artifice, probably out of respect for the mentors and craft, wouldn't go out of their way to let people know unless they're close friends.

jagged apex
jagged apex
cinder cloud
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Inventors, tinkerers, perhaps... but not formal artificers

tacit spear
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I'll check it out. Another question, then. For Druids. Are most just...neutral and uncaring, or can there actually be legit evil druids?

jagged apex
jagged apex
cinder cloud
tacit spear
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Ah. So a friend was right. They were arguing that druids aren't always happy nature lovers but can genuinely be evil

jagged apex
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evil in dnd is nuanced, it is not always molevilent

tacit spear
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Just self-serving, no?

jagged apex
crude blaze
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A character’s class isn’t generally indicative of their alignment. Save for maybe paladins, who at least in the 2014 PHB have subclasses that say what alignment they tend to lean towards.

jagged apex
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their alignment is technically true neutral, but they very much to others seem evil

cinder cloud
tacit spear
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Right. BG3 reminds me of two more questions. Do all spells look the same in lore, or do they differ between caster.

And I already forgot the other question. Had a brain lapse while I was eating.

cinder cloud
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It's a complicated topic

jagged apex
cinder cloud
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Spells look as they are described in their descriptions.

tacit spear
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OH. Found it. Theoretically, would a Counterspell fail if the caster can't understand the language of the other person's spell?

cinder cloud
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Individual casters can put spins or unique touches on those spells

jagged apex
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each mage has their own sigil that is like a sort of signature

tacit spear
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Dungeon Soup gave me the idea, so I wanted to check if that's lore-accurate

cinder cloud
tacit spear
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Ah.

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I'll circle further inquires on that there, then

jagged apex
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which i find halarious

tacit spear
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That I did notice. I was informed that most, if not all spells, were either created by the Goddess of Magic or made by an errant wizard

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So, them being flavorable, In lore, makes sense to me

cinder cloud
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Whether or not you can do something like that is also dependent on your DM, so you'll need to ask them what sort of reflavor they'll alow

tacit spear
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True. It'd be quite out of pocket for someone to reflavor their Magic Missiles to do Poison damage

jagged apex
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basically the apperance of one's spell is to what a warrior their fighting style is, each can be uniform or unique, depending on the will of the individual

cinder cloud
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Indeed, I'd run any thing you write for backstory etc. past your DM, since their Realms may be different than the one in published materials

jagged apex
tacit spear
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I'll factor that in.

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I was considering a Lizardfolk Warlock who drew some inspiration from primal Rage. As such, his Thunderwave is just him roaring at the enemy.

jagged apex
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basically the lore and the game itself encourages you to make your magic LOOK how you want, you are not bound to any singular depiction, those are at best just exampels to give you an idea how they look in universe

tacit spear
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hence why I asked about flavoring.

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He was inspired by Primal Rage's Sauron.

jagged apex
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flavor is purely cosmetic, it may look different but mechanically is the same

tacit spear
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I see. Well, this answers the extent of my questions.

jagged apex
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also talks about your own character rather than just something that might be written in published mateirals would be more so a thing for #character-discussion

tacit spear
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I'll probably shift there for some of this discourse, yes. Thank you.

heady hare
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Is Azharul a form of Tiamat?

crude blaze
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She then consumed his divine essence, taking over the things he had dominion over

heady hare
crude blaze
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That could be an instance in which she was pretending to be him at some point

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Because she’s known for being a deceiver until she gets the opportunity to strike

ember sail
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The map that I looked at earlier, it had a bunch of unknown land. Could someone explain that to me?

ember sail
cinder cloud
hazy fox
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On new SCAG book, any idea if Cormyr will be explored?
Also there are also lores on Shou Town or attempt at trying to get Kara-Tur characters closer to Faerun back in 3E and 4E.
One such detailed place being Marsember's Xiousing district.

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(Though some of baggage from past writings kinda stuck around.)

sullen storm
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Can anyone point me to an online resource that explains the lore of magic in DND?

finite pendant
vocal mortar
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A return to Dalelands will be the closest to Cormyr

hazy fox
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Yeah, just not sure if the Shou town in Marsember (one of Cormyr's big cities) along with the baggage--I read it and kinda saw some of things that would have issues--might be one reason (even if it's just magazine entry and closest official update being Unapproachable East)...or seeing as not worth updating since "too generic" (especially being more medieval knights theme) even by DnD standards for eye catching.

jagged apex
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SCAG is specifically the sword coast, whcih at least half of those listed locations i am fairly certain are outside of what is considered the sword coast

spring agate
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Was there anytime deities/gods/goddesses became mortal and was in mortal realm? Talking lost their powers (temporarily or permanently). Thanks!

modest badger
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Indeed! Check out the time of troubles in forgotten realms

spring agate
serene crater
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Quick question, but for Bahamut, does he have other celestials under him along with dragons like other gods?

cinder cloud
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His palace is in the plane of Celestia, after all

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Within the palace are four gates to the elemental plane of air, each guarded by a warden archon.

fallow leaf
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is there an endonym for mind flayers and beholders? i was just kinda thinking about it

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or wait

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illithids

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but do beholders have one?

worn axle
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Illithid isn't a group name, it's the "formal" name for mind flayer

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You can have one illithid or many illithids

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Beholders are pathologically isolationist when it comes to their own kind, so there's no group term specifically for them

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The closest might be "beholder-kin" that refers to the various beholder-like creatures such as gazers, mind witnesses, etc

fallow leaf
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that makes sense

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thanks for answering

worn axle
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NP MP

crude pulsar
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Do elementals have intention on its own, like do they want something or they're just merely existing?

cinder cloud
fallow leaf
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did see that on the wiki but that really didn't feel like an endonym to me
like, i can't see a beholder calling themself a sphere of many eyes

cinder cloud
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However, the lore there is likely very centric to the Forgotten Realms. Elementals in other settings may function differently.

pallid flower
cinder cloud
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Beholderkin is a term for monsters related to beholders, i.e. beholder adjacent

pallid flower
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They would call themselves perfect

jagged apex
jagged apex
cinder cloud
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Do you have a source for the idea that elementals have lowered intelligence when they're summoned?

jagged apex
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no, it is something i learned form AJ Picket's lore videos regarding elementals

jagged apex
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though far as i know nothing contradicts that idea, though take with a grain of salt i guess just to be safe

cinder cloud
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I looked and couldnt find anything in the transcripts. Granted I only looked up two videos

crude pulsar
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I mean if the elementals conjured via spell they're pretty much your servant. Perhaps they act differently if "naturally spawned"?

feral lintel
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Are there any whale related or similar creatures/monsters in any setting?

crude blaze
feral lintel
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Kindori? Interesting PomPom_Noted

crude blaze
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Why you asking? 👀

feral lintel
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Trying to find some creatures to add to Malakas' motifs

jagged apex
jagged apex
pallid flower
eager bay
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So how is that Gods can have overlapping domains?

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So many gods of death, war, nature etc etc

worn axle
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  1. Because there are multiple ways of viewing domains so different gods cover those different views. For example a god of the glory of war vs a god of tactical warfare vs god of merciless war
  2. The reach of gods can be limited and even regional so a given domain is covered by one god in region a and a different god in region b
  3. Gods compete for domains
  4. Some gods occupy multiple domains and so attract different followers. e.g a god of nature and trickery would attract different followers from a god of nature and life, thus they can co-exist
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Plus other reasons

calm crest
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Depends on setting as well. There are gods with identical domains that don’t compete for worshippers on the same world.

eager bay
jagged apex
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plus in the forgotten realms at least, many gods can share domains of the lower rankings but with the higher ones they need to be different enough else one must concede to the other or the two become one, there can be any number of lesser deity and lower ranking with the same domains

jagged apex
eager bay
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Any Gods of Usurpation exist? Feel like that might be an unclaimed domain itself.

worn axle
vocal mortar
cinder folio
safe acorn
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becoming a drider? is there something specifically that has to be done or can it be just wronging loth greatly?

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ping pls

heady hare
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did metallic dragons also enslave dragonborns or it was only chromatic ones?

jagged apex
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given the dragonborn hold no difference between the two and have a bias against trusting any true dragon, including metallics, it implies the dragons of abeir all, regardless of kind treated them as slaves

crude blaze
jagged apex
# heady hare did metallic dragons also enslave dragonborns or it was only chromatic ones?

keep in mind, abeir was effectively off limits to the gods, no gods means no tiamat or bahamut influencing, thus no holy war between the two kinds of dragons that wound up happening on toril, other than physically, when they refer to dragons they are presumably referring to dragons as a whole, excluding any minority or individuals that may have been kinder

jagged apex
crude blaze
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Setting dependent iirc. FR says becoming a drider is a curse, but Exandria says it’s a blessing.

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I could be wrong though, I don’t have my books in hand.

hazy fox
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(Also sometimes logic can apply…like how you would be “cursed” if you retain your intelligence and also stronger in drider form aside from being shamed that you need a boost.)

safe acorn
crude blaze
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Then you decide

cinder cloud
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Drow mages could also be turned into driders via failing a loyalty test.

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(The third method involved a drow promised for the Demon Web Pits but subjected to a test and failed)

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There's a pattern here in case you didn't notice 🙂

safe acorn
cinder cloud
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Up to you. You might be able to find more in the book Drow of the Underdark, which is where the lore comes from.

safe acorn
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okay ty

true patio
true patio
tacit spear
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I've a lore question on firearms in Faerun

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Where would they even originate from?

true patio
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Gond worshiping gnomes

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Gond, the god of invention, gave some gnomes the secrets to, not exactly gunpowder but basically gunpowder

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Before this point actual gunpowder had been rendered innert by Mystra and the Weave I believe? So any firearms brought in on spelljamming vessels just didn't work.

clever path
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Gond did it

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Gond's clerics create magic gunpowder so it can be stored safely in anti-magic fields

unkempt merlin
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typically Lantan

true patio
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It' s also hella unstable and no sane person outside the church of gond dare use it

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Which is why it hasn't caught on to much wider use outside Pirates, who have been largely misinformed to the product's safety, and Gond's followers

true patio
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1e-2e lore is wild

tacit spear
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So, traditionally, gunpowder based weapons aren't really a thing in Faerun

true patio
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Correct

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Because they blow up in your hand

feral lintel
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Gond also kinda stopped them from working

unkempt merlin
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gunpowder based weapons aren't a thing because gunpowder is completely inert

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smokepowder (which is basically just magic gunpowder) weaponry and explosives do exist in Faerun

tacit spear
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And via Smokepowder, there's no need for actual firearms, then?

unkempt merlin
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?

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No, they are actual firearms

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They are literal guns, its just that gunpowder is replaced with smokepowder

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they function identically

tacit spear
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Just not gunpowder based

feral lintel
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they just switched the gunpowder component

tacit spear
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That makes sense

unkempt merlin
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Smokepowder is literally just magic gunpowder

tacit spear
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So instead of gunpowder, any firearms in Faerun are based using Smokepower.

unkempt merlin
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yes

tacit spear
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Which seems arguably stronger

true patio
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The distinction exists just so WotC/the DM can decide how the physics works

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So any gun expert can be told "no it's not actual gunpowder so it works how I say it works"

tacit spear
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Which guns would be around, then? Typical Fantasy ones like flintlocks and pepperboxes?

clever path
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you can also dispell a barrel of it i think

true patio
unkempt merlin
true patio
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The drow pirates from the Waterdeep module, Dragon Heist, have some pistols