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leaden field
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Is the archfey a cosmic force? Like queen Titania and king Oberon? Being a archfey of the feywild I would assume so yes? And being of cosmic force their domain is developed through courts

jagged apex
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many at least like titania and oberon are similar gods in terms of status and being if that is what you mean, as all worlds in the prime material plane, to my knowledge, share the same feywilds as they do the other planes of existance

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to my knowledge yeah, in dnd saying the underworld at best means any of the lower planes, nothing specific

tardy wasp
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How do worlds like Greyhawk and Forgotten Realms explain the predominance of humans over other humanoid species? Do either of those 2 official settings have answers for that?

feral lintel
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On most worlds, humans are the dominant species simply because of our ambition and drive

jagged apex
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to my knowledge humans just seem to be a race that devolopes in most settings at some point, what becomes of them and how dominant they are can very

feral lintel
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All the older races tend to be less ambitious or driven as humans are

jagged apex
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any would be racial gods for humans are dead so we are basically able to breed with any other race making us a super adaptable race, only species i know that is of similar compatability with other races is the orcs

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plus short lifespans compared to many other races just naturally encourages us to get more done than other races, is one thing that some elves and dragons admire about humans, even if they view us as lesser

feral lintel
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Humans. “All that haste, their ambition and drive to accomplish something before their brief lives pass away—human endeavors seem so futile sometimes. But then you look at what they have accomplished, and you have to appreciate their achievements. If only they could slow down and learn some refinement.”
From the PHB, what elves think about humans

jagged apex
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they also kind of think less of us typically cuz as such a young race and not as long lived we wind up forgetting some agreements in a generation or two or repeat mistakes of the past

feral lintel
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I just chalk it up as elf/immortal hubris

jagged apex
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honestly, i suspect is more so a domino effect cuz of the sun elves starting it all, everyone is so quick to blame the drow/dark elves, but the sun elves are the ones that technically started all their problems that led to war to begin with, at least if memory serves

agile merlin
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Good ol sun elves

iron vault
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anyone know off the top of their head how long phandelver was abandoned?

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i'm doing six things at once to prep for todays session so that's important but not forefront.

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ah 951-1374, then abandoned presumibly in the spellplague ~20 years later, and about 1486....
So a long lived hermit settling in the area would have had about 100 years of peace.

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to 500 if they didnt care about the cold iron

jagged apex
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looking at when it was officially beginning to be resettled, would have been 535 years roughly, with about a 10 year gap from the spellplague as it lasted 10 years and another 91 between the end of it and the second resettling

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assuming i did all math right

stiff roost
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I can't find the 3.5 L&L book. Only the 2E. Am I just blind?

iron saffron
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1E Deities & Demigods
2E Legends & Lore
3E Deities & Demigods
3E Faiths & Pantheons (Forgotten Realms specfic)

stiff roost
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Ah, thank very much🙏

stiff roost
iron saffron
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That's because he's so powerful he doesn't have stats. He's the overgod (divine rank 21+) of Realmspace.

agile merlin
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He's literally the boss of all of Toril's gods

stiff roost
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I just like numbers. I guess he is 21+

stiff roost
red hinge
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is there any spells related to helm/torm that aren't before 5e?

iron saffron
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Gods don't have specific spells. Look up their domains. This is falling into #dnd-discussion territory and not lore-related.

modest badger
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I feel a bit pedantic but some gods did give out specific spells. But not in 5e

versed hare
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Any one know offhand about Shemesha's appearances in 2e plainscape?

iron saffron
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She appears in:

  • Dungeon Magazine #55, 2E Planescape adventure "Umbra"
  • Dungeon Magazine #60, 2E Planescape "Nemesis"
  • 2E Planescape "Uncaged: Faces of Sigil"
versed hare
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Brilliant thanks!

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I'm 18 sessions into turn of fortune's wheel and wanted to check the back pages as it were

jagged apex
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that adventure is a 5e adventure last i checked, 2e lore has nothing to do with it

fathom wagon
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as I'm digging deep...does anyone know offhand any devils particularly vested in music/lore/knowledge?

grim siren
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Music was a favored contract curse type for the Devil, Raphael.

jagged apex
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and very much the opposite for the Orthon, Yurgir

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an orthon being another type of devil

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to my knowledge with devils and fiends it usually is more often than not a personal preference, though could be i am just not able to recall any such devils off the top of my head, i know there is a yugoloth type that specializes in knowledge

fathom wagon
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appreciate y'all

nova basin
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How do Tyr worshippers throw funerals?

vocal mortar
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That one seem to be a stifler for rules, I read something about "the Inumerable Edicts" that grow more pedantic each year. So however they do, it is bound to be a certain way it seems.

nova basin
vocal mortar
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Tyr's good friend Ilmater seem to have a ritual called the passing: The Passing - This ritual is celebrated at the death of a devout Ilmatari follower, whether lay worshipper or cleric. It is a solemn chanting service that commends the passage of the departed soul to Ilmater's embrace. .. Lay worshippers decide on their own whether to undergo this rite. Most devout followers of Ilmater do choose The Passing. It is celebrated at the first dusk after death.

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I think you are free to come up with something yourself, maybe choose the first dusk after death as preferred time?
But a trial-like process could be cool (when having funeral service for a well-to-do faithful in a town with a temple)

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The wiki have some interesting things regarding time of day:
Dawn - Awakening: gentle and uplifting.
Noon - Hammer at Highsun :stirring:
Afternoon - High Justice: stern and proud
Noon - Remembrance of the Just Fallen was a haunting, softly-chanted hymn that revered those who died for the cause of justice, regardless of whether or not they followed Tyr's dogma.

nova basin
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Oh, thank you very much! I couldn't find anything!!!

tardy wasp
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Are there any official lunar or solar deities that are known to exist in multiple worlds in the multiverse (that I can steal for my homebrew setting 😈)?

iron saffron
jagged apex
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Pelor is technically one, as i believe he is known to exist in both earth and greyhawk, yeah many forget earth is an actually place in the dnd multiverse's lore

agile merlin
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Thayans are descended from real-world ancient Egyptians, right?

iron saffron
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No

unkempt merlin
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That's the Mulhorandi

iron saffron
agile merlin
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Well yeah but Mulan people make up most of Thay's population, don't they? "The Mulani of Thay maintained their people's tradition of shaving their heads and what little body hair they had." It's even why the Red Wizards are always bald, sounds like

thorny phoenix
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Can prayers reach a god who is in a different world pantheon? Let's say if there is a cleric of Pelor from Greyhawk, for example, and they get into the Forgotten Realms.

agile merlin
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I think that's a matter of the god's power, because divine magic can't cross from one crystal sphere to another unless the source is immensely powerful, or maybe if the faith has spread into that world to a large enough extent

iron saffron
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If a god has no presence in a sphere, their clerics will be cut off. But with 5E rules, clerics aren't directly powered by their deities but just by their faith.

jagged apex
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unless said clerics fine another god willing to grant them on behalf of their original deity's behalf at least historically that is one work around i heard of being a thing in the lore

jagged apex
red hinge
safe wadi
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King: If memory serves me, Clerics have to choose a Diety to serve at 3rd level.

unkempt merlin
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incorrect

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Clerics (both in mechanics and general lore) do not require a diety

safe wadi
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huh... okay, things changed.

unkempt merlin
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Been this way since at least 3.5

iron saffron
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It's been like that since 3E

unkempt merlin
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(Couldn't remember if it was codified in 3 or 3.5)

iron saffron
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3E Deities & Demigods mention clerics not needing gods but they can have faiths in an ideal, philosophy, or a force.

agile merlin
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Cleric of Yungian psychology

red hinge
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Double helm murderization related questions, 1. Does the church of mystra hate helm/his churches in lore? Cause of the whole murder thing? 2. Why were followers of helm chosen of all people to be colonizers on maztica?

iron saffron
jagged apex
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from what i am aware historically clerics only need the aid of a god for spells above 2nd level for lack of a better term

iron saffron
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3rd or higher.
Back in 2E Planescape, clerics could grant themselves 1st and 2nd level spells.

red hinge
iron saffron
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

red hinge
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damn

iron saffron
upper talon
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So I decided to ask here instead, was there ever a prehistoric era of sorts? Cause I was wondering if I could make a setting around it maybe.

iron saffron
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D&D tends to be creationist where a god makes a world. Ao did Realmspace.

modest badger
vital heron
# upper talon So I decided to ask here instead, was there ever a prehistoric era of sorts? Cau...

Presuming you are asking about the Forgotten Realms, there's a chronology going back to the creation of the world that one can either believe or not...but they tend towards the creationist angle as OldMan says. The history is patchy and semi-mythical, of course.

The Eberron setting is a little less creationist with it...as in the creation and early myths are much further removed (by millions of years) from the rise of any extant peoples, and so they aren't "remembered" in the same way.

This sort of reflects the technology level, anyway. Before the Enlightenment, European culture didn't really have "prehistory" either. Histories recording events of recent memory would track back to biblical stories, and royal lineages were traced back to Adam & Eve. Similar things happened with other cultures across earth.

modest badger
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Storm Giant I believe. The caption for that image is 'On some worlds, the ordning is reinforced by gifts of tribute' And it looks like other giants paying tribute to a storm giant

grim siren
fleet summit
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Question for FR DMs: What year DR is your campaign set in? Follow ups: How long have you been playing and what year DR and edition did it start in?

sharp owl
fleet summit
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Hm, maybe. I think it's appropriate to FR lore though. Big events in the Lore shaped the feasible starting points in various editions. It's kind of lore-based, no?

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Time of Troubles, Shadowfell, and negation in 5e of pretty much all 4e lore, and resetting it to 3e.

modest badger
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Think of this channel more for official lore and asking questions that we can get quotes from the book to answer.
For this one the goal doens't really seem to get a lore answer like a quote from the books or such.

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We could point out which editions covered which years generally, or what year an adventure is meant to take place. But DMs don't have to abide by those.

fleet summit
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Ok. I understand. I am new here. I will move my question to # dm-discussion. I apologize.

sharp owl
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Appreciated

warm thicket
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Can. Someone or someones help me with the Feywild. Thank you

sharp owl
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Unless you actually ask a specific question, no

modest badger
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What do you need help with specifically on the Feywild? Sources to look at, questions about it?

sharp owl
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No one can help you without knowing what you need help with

warm thicket
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So we have a new game, new party, 4 characters from the Feywild trying to take all our original backstories from the fey and combine them....
Well in the feywild is there different regions, kingdoms, city-states? What are they called, how do they work?

sharp owl
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The Feywild is divided up into Domains of Delight, each one ruled over by an archfey

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The size of the domain depends on the power of the archfey and the nature of the domain depends on the nature of the archfey

warm thicket
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Is there a list of them, canon or they made up for each table?

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@sharp owl thank you

sharp owl
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There are a few mentioned in the adventure Wilds Beyond the Witchlight and one described in the supplement Domains of Delight

unkempt merlin
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Fwiw the entire feywild isn't divided into domains of delight, the same way that the entire shadowfell isn't divided up into domains of dread.

The domains of both places both exist within each plane, but areas outside of those domains also exist within the plane

thorny phoenix
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Has there ever been a shrine in a smaller settlement dedicated to more than one god in the Forgotten Realms or is the common practice for priests to dedicate a shrine to one god exclusively?

grim siren
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Typically, in the Realms, Clergy will dedicate a shrine to a singular deity. But, the realms as a whole is a wholly polytheistic place. A devout priest of Mystra would offer prayer to Tyr that justice be done. Or even pray to Talos for the storms to subside.

A shrine in the realms is usually erected on a spot that has a real (or imagined) connection with that deity. Like a Unicorn grove for Mielikki. Or an exchange for Waukeen.

However there are notable exceptions to these. There are times where shrines and temples and orders are made in service of similarly aligned gods. This is rarer in the faerunian pantheon than in others. Shrines to the Seladrine as a whole in silverymoon would not be out of place.

A good exception to the Faerunian panetheon would be Shrines to the Triad. Three gods, Tyr, Torm, Ilmater are closely aligned. Their order has shaped the nation of Implitur in its past. And shrines to all three are common from Uthmere to Cormyr.

vocal mortar
warm thicket
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@vocal mortar thanks

vocal mortar
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If you happens to be adventuring on the Moonshae Isles, some of the lands there overlap with the Feywild and have some specific lore.

rare flame
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Creating campaign based o forgotten, deciding what year to start, just wanted to add the idea of an unexplored plane, filled with wilderness, and treasures, but in a similar way ancient or hidden as the far planes, more like a place that don't wanted to be found

iron saffron
rare flame
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thanks! I'll take a look on the link and continue on dm-discussion 🙂

iron saffron
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The time your campaign takes place shouldn't affect places for your PCs to explore.

rare flame
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Yeah, It was more for like narrative weight

magic jackal
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It might, if it's set in the middle of DiA's timeline then maybe Elturel is currently in Hell, and if it's set while the Rime of the Frostmaiden is in effect they'll have a difficult time getting to Icewind Dale.

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Timeline does kinda influence what places exist and what they're going through from a Lore perspective

iron saffron
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Yeah, during each cataclysmic event between editions were quite drastic, such as the Spellplague.

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The farther you go back means more work to see what happened during that era.

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(I recommend ignoring the 4E FR era for multiple reasons)

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Forgotten Realms Timeline
Netheril -3859 DR to -339 DR
Cormanthyr 650 DR
Fall of Myth Drannor 714 DR
1E 1356 to 1358 DR
2E 1367 to 1370 DR
3E 1372 to 1374 DR
4E 1479 to 1480 DR
5E 1490+

rare flame
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I thinks I'm going to set it 1493 DR, a year after all these events and with not so much impactful changes

iron saffron
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It's your table, you can ignore whatever "canon" lore you want. I ignore 4E stuff at my table...

obsidian gate
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i think the latest modules happens in 1496? not super sure

grim siren
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Yes the latest module is Orrery of the Wanderer. in the Acq inc book. Its not directly stated in book but that it takes place 5 years after PotA and that book directly states 1491.

Its the furthest in the future in the realms for modules. The furthest novel is 1600

iron saffron
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What happens that far into the future?

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I hope it's not another time jump like 4E did.

jagged apex
grim siren
grim siren
jagged apex
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acquisitions inq kind of throws me off as far as i know it tends to be considered 3rd party or just an alternative version of toril and the timeline, and novels technically tend to be their own continuity so i often mainly go by adventures and sourcebooks in that regard

grim siren
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It's in the same vein as explorer's guide to wildemount

jagged apex
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ah, explains why it still kind of throws me off in that regard, like often i get mixed tellings of if it is 3rd party or not

grim siren
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Even still on DDB it's not listed in partnered content.

jagged apex
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fair

warped heron
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hey! i'm new to dnd and am heavily interested in the drow. i know that it's heavily matriarchal and have watched a lot of videos about it's society. i know that in Menzoberranzan there are many houses, and women occupy every major role in society. However, can anyone tell me what it's like to be a lowborn woman in Menzoberranzan?

iron saffron
warped heron
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ty!

hollow bison
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I think this belongs here but if it doesn’t please direct me to where I may ask, my party have encountered a group of werewolves on a quest surrounding the object we need. Now I’m hoping the plan we have come up with works but if it doesn’t we more than likely will have to fight. So to my question, if we were to kill them, would they transform back or stay in their werewolf form?

next sage
hollow bison
visual python
# iron saffron https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Drow#Classism

“There also wasn't much to be gained from killing an elder (at least one that wasn't feeble), as they represented a valuable source of historical and general knowledge with realistic accessibility, although the elderly would be eaten if the city was faced with overpopulation.”

lmao drow are so freaking wild sometimes

agile merlin
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Reverse modest proposal

visual python
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menzoberranzan doing their best midsommar reenactment it seems.

jagged apex
# next sage it reverts to its true form when it dies

only possible exception canonically might be a natural born werewolf, ie one born with their lycanthropy, but that is just mainly cuz i can't recall if that would be an exception or not off the top of my head or if it does not matter and they always on death return to humanoid form

heady mulch
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Building a love story for one of my players (half-elf), married to a Drow (loooonnggg story), they want them to die peacefully together of old age which I'm all for as they get to decide how their adventures retire and end up, but Drow live significantly longer, so trying to find like a scale where they could both die together when theyre hella old lol

feral lintel
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Thats not really lore

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For the purposes of this channel

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heady mulch
modest badger
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Are you asking how long half-elves and drow live?

feral lintel
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Thats now how you really presented it though

heady mulch
jagged apex
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yeah, the rest of the context is not really relevant to the question then

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at least for the purposes of this channel

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but to answer the question, @heady mulch according to the forgotten realms wiki, so at least for the forgotten realms setting, the average drow lifespan is stated to be "Up to 750 years" and the average lifespan for half-elves is stated to be "128–180 years"

heady mulch
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So, around 4x as long, thanks!

agile merlin
modest badger
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Half-elves may vary greatly and could depend on their elven heritage. 5e lore doesn't really go much into different elven lifespans, but there used to be some differences (like sun elves could live potentially 1000+)

jagged apex
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granted the answer i provided is specific to 5e forgotten realms lore, as to my knowledge they did not specify another edition so i just presumed they were using the latest one which would be 5e

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some lore like lifespans can change depending on the edition much like other bits of lore

shut lagoon
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I know most alignment descriptions are flexible when it comes to creatures and races, but have there been any examples of named Chromatic Dragons being good or Metallic Dragons being evil?

unkempt merlin
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all over Eberron

jagged apex
shut lagoon
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Interesting, you're right. Eberron dragon's don't have set alignments.

shut lagoon
jagged apex
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Miirym, a silver dragon who by their standards was rather evil in life and a bit more so in unlife, a red dragon named Lux from 2e's draconomican that was more chaotic neutral as memory serves with good tendencies to name two main ones

shut lagoon
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Thanks. I've been curious about it after seeing something in previous DnD edition where some Dragons would turn against Tiamat or Bahamut and found it really interesting.

visual python
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are magic spells invented or discovered? like when a powerful mage creates a new spell, did they discover the spell or did they invent it?

iron saffron
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They invented it.

sharp owl
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Some spells are crafted, others are revealed by higher powers such as gods or patrons

static sinew
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If a character wanted to completely obliterate a bbeg’s soul from existence permanently with no recovery, what kinds of items, spells, etc. would be useful in doing so? I’ve tried looking some up but the closest thing I could find is the great sword Blackrazor but the souls consumed by that blade can be brought back by the wish spell. I know some creatures are capable of consuming souls but that’s kind of unreliable for these purposes imo.

sharp owl
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What setting?

static sinew
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Forgotten realms

sharp owl
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As far as I recal, feeding a soul to a liches soul vessel will pretty much destroy it and that's part of what makes lichdom so evil

static sinew
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Ah. I was hoping for a portable solution as the party doesn’t know where the battle will take place and the character wants to personally obliterate their soul.

sharp owl
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Soul vessels can be portable

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Maybe asking in #dm-discussion might be better as constraining yourself to lore is probably not going to take you in a useful direction

static sinew
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Alr ty. Hope my dm doesn’t see everything I’m cooking up cause they’re active in the server lol

sharp owl
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If you're not the DM, this would 100% be something to run by your DM first

static sinew
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I did. He knows about the whole soul destroying plan just not what type

obsidian gate
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Turning a Soul into a devil and then killing that devil in the hells should also do the trick, right?

jagged apex
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is not like is something that is easily done, and in 5e at least, it potentially could remanifest in about 100 years on a plane matching it's alignment

thorny hound
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Is there any information on interactions of Eilistraee and Selune?

sharp owl
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Have you checked the FR wiki?

jagged apex
obsidian gate
jagged apex
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not really, as despite it's rarity, in universe it is likely a lot harder for a mortal to get a hold of

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given they are most likely created in the hells and not just something you can go and purchase unless you are capable of extra planar travel

feral lintel
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(Rarities are more for balance anyway)

obsidian gate
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sure, but I'd say its much easier to get such a weapon than to aquire a phylactery

jagged apex
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and are more so their availability and easy of creation, and it still would require extra planar travel, which is far from common place in most settings

obsidian gate
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and I dont think you would find these so rarely outside of the hells. Devil armsdealers would have a vested interest in spreading these weapons as far and wide as possible

jagged apex
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eh, some in theory, but devils on the whole tend to be more focused on the bloodwar and keeping the threat of demons contained, at least as far as things like weapons and war is concerned, is why is likely a devil will be angry at some mortal who summoned them, pulling them away from their post, or that summon a demon thus expanding the treat of the demons into the prime material plane as another battle field

obsidian gate
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these weapons directly serve the bloodwar

jagged apex
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plus given the adventure they were introduced and established in for 5e, while i could be wrong, they likely made an appearance given the advents of the adventure "decent into avernus"

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though i could see it more reasonable for a mortal to acquire one as part of a pact with a devil (pact of the blade especially)

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but outside of that, probably gunna be near impossible to acquire outside of the hells, at least to my knowledge

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though even then, you would still have to travel to the hells, find the being that was that soul in life, and kill it, which is not easy when factored in all at once and how they tend to not really resemble their selves in life, especially a mindless lemure, and as said earlier at least in 5e, after a 100 years it could potentially remanifest on a plane that shares it's alignment (according to 5e planescape with how death and the planes work in 5e as of the 5e planescape books releases)

obsidian gate
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i dont think the last part works. lemurs are lawful evil already and when they die in avernus, their essence is destroyed.

feral lintel
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Im fairly sure killing a lemure is the only way to be able to revive it

vital heron
jagged apex
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lemure are described as mindless, but still meet the criteria described in 5e planescape

obsidian gate
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i dont have access to planescape

jagged apex
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quote "A petitioner or another Celestial or Fiend that is destroyed can reconstitute on a plane that shares its alignment after 100 years, or it might choose to become one with that plane and never return." end quote

obsidian gate
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so devils are no longer perma destroyed when they die in the bloodwar?

jagged apex
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at least not automatically

obsidian gate
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thats a pretty massive shift in lore. surprised I am just hearing about it

jagged apex
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is still a possibility, but at least in the 5e continuity is not a certainty anymore, this is just one more reason that it is good that they are reprinting the core books, so the sort of base line most will have access to will be up to date with the current version of he 5e continuity that is being used by wizards of the coast

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as otherwise, the older books that some are more likely to have if they were not willing to purchase planescape, could make it unclear and confusing

jagged apex
jagged apex
vital heron
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Yeah it would be up to any particular DM to decide for their own table whether the two passages from two books are contradictory, or if the Descent into Avernus one is just more specific.

Descent into Avernus:

"If a devil dies somewhere other than the Nine Hells, it re-forms in the Nine Hells and is therefore not truly killed. However, a devil that is killed in the Nine Hells is dead forever; not surprisingly, that's why devils tend to be more cautious in their dealings at home than abroad."

Morte's Planar Parade:

A petitioner or another Celestial or Fiend that is destroyed can reconstitute on a plane that shares its alignment after 100 years, or it might choose to become one with that plane and never return. A creature that re-forms on the planes multiple times becomes increasingly dissimilar from its original mortal form.

Either the MPP "rules" supercede the DiA ones, or the DiA ones provide a special case that applies only to Devils and the Nine Hells. Personally I like the latter, as it preserves the stakes for Devils in DiA.

jagged apex
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honestly there are still stakes either way, is just going solely by that provided in the adventure makes those stakes more immediate and personal

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the ones in DiA were accurate at the time and more so restating something relevant for the running of the adventure as lore accurately as possible if one wished

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unlike more recent things, i doubt they knew they would be moving away from that at the time

heady mulch
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Would this be the channel to talk about specific campaign stuff?

feral lintel
heady mulch
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thx

shut lagoon
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Where can I find more about Giants' perspective on spellcasting and magic? I know they have Rune Magic, whose effects seem to be mostly for combat or specialize in the giant's specific type or domain, such as fire giant runes being used for forging or controlling fire (especially apparent in the rune knight sub class).

A few giants in the bestiary have spellcasting as a feature, most of those being innate.

Giants see strength and size as very important, would they see it as dishonorable or "cheating" to do things such as cast enlargement on themselves or reduce on enemies?

Mostly curious about forgotten realms but also happy to hear about other settings

iron saffron
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Bigby's Presents: Glory of Giants is a good place to start.

shut lagoon
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Thanks, I'll be sure to check those out

floral night
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Hey, how long is an elven half-dragon's lifespan.

agile merlin
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Barring unforeseen misfortune, a typical half-dragon’s life expectancy is twice that of its nondraconic line
And elves can live to be 750
So, somewhere in the range of 1,500 years?

jagged apex
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and that is just on average, if they happen to be a monk, druid, favored by some deities, or even just a fitness/health nut, likely even longer

agile merlin
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Elven half-dragon archdruid

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Dude was around before Ostoria fell, or else they'll live to see the first combustion engine being invented

jagged apex
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probably first working one, after all, bet the gondian's probably have invented such a thing, probably just more explosive than desired

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legit would not surprise me if that was the case and since it was a failed attempt nobody felt the need to document it

floral night
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Why are druids seen to live long?

jagged apex
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cuz they are effectively attuned to/intertwined with nature, at least far as i am aware that is supposidly why

floral night
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Pfft, Im playing a Paladin so I cant get sick SCsmug

jagged apex
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not really lore relevant ^^;

floral night
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Youre right, wanted to brag.

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But I do wonder who Ostoria is

jagged apex
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there are things far worse in dnd than mere sickness

jagged apex
thorny phoenix
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How common are ancient dragons in Faerun? I know we've got a few named but I believe it's a big deal for a dragon to survive that long so I suspect there are not many. Am I right? (speaking about 1480s-1490s DR)

jagged apex
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honestly, in general, not just faerun, there are likely more than those we are aware of

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but that is not the same as encountering one

iron saffron
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They're still very rare since ancient dragons are 800+ years old and their territories are hundreds of miles. Luckily most are asleep for years.

modest ermine
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Did Juiblex (The Faceless Lord) create every ooze or just the ones from the overworld? Because I can't find anything that says he invented plasmoids

jagged apex
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honestly to them is not that big a deal, is just a natural part of their life cycle, if anything it is a big deal for everyone else, cuz it just by nature of dragons in dnd shows that they are immensly powerful, as a true dragon in dnd, grows stronger and more powerful with age

jagged apex
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being the lord of oozes does not nessissarily mean you created them

modest ermine
iron saffron
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A demon lord of a [something] isn't the same as a god of [something]

modest ermine
jagged apex
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ie, it just as easily as any theory could prove untrue

iron saffron
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Note:

Whether this is true or not

jagged apex
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yeah, either way, it is merely a claim, true or not true, is not known in universe which is the case, it is speculation by tasha if anyone given it comes from the demonomicon she is renouned for making

modest ermine
jagged apex
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more like nobody knows and it is merely a theory in universe

modest ermine
jagged apex
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is one of those things where it is left ambiguous so it is left up to the dm and either way it is not gunna majorly alter the way the published lore handles it until they potentially decide to write a story or piece of lore that establishes it one way or another, after all supposedly jubilex is part of tharzidun, but like many entities in dnd he has more than one origin, be they from different editions or the same ones

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like he is currently far too weak to dominate more than one ooze at a time these days, so if he created them or not is not really important as is not like oozes are typically intelligent beings capable of something like worship

modest ermine
jagged apex
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not really

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and again, he can only influance/dominate one at a time these days cuz he just has not had that level of power for a long time and has yet to regain it

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at least to my knowledge

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plus even if he could, then it comes down to weather or not intelligent oozes have souls or not, which for some creatures, like mindflayers as an example, weather or not they have souls is unclear as some things tell us they out right do not, but there are some things that seem to imply that they do such as the mention of one of their gods and their realm in 5e planescape and it's followers

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either way that comes down more so to what the dm wishes to do at their own games and their own continuities or versions of these settings as some things in the published lore are just left unclear sometimes

iron saffron
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This channel is for official D&D lore. #dm-world-building would be for your homebrew world.

jagged apex
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are we given any indication in the lore on how durable the bones of a dragon wyrmling are? specifically a white dragon's skull? like i know they are comparable enough to be used as part of weapons and armor, but idk if it takes time for them to become that durable or if they are from birth a super durable material that their bones are made of?

agile merlin
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Although it's a mechanics thing, their scales are already seemingly as effective as full chain mail, so there's at least some precedence that they aren't born fragile by any means.
Plus, they can fly so well because of magic, so their bones don't have to pay in durability the way birds do

stiff warren
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Does Strixhaven exist in the same world/timeframe as Baldurs Gate?

jagged apex
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no, it is not even in the same multiverse

stiff warren
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Oh, nvrm then lol, thanks XD

iron saffron
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Strixhaven is a Magic the Gathering IP.

stiff warren
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Oh.... I feel super dumb now... XD

iron saffron
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Baldur's Gate is a city in the Sword Coast, a region in Faerun, which is a continent on the planet Toril, which is in Realmspace system in the Material Plane.

jagged apex
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of the dnd multiverse

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mtg and dnd have two seperate multiverses, but they have a canon connection that to my knowledge is a bit unclear, so while one can technically go from one to the other, is not by any means normal or reasonable

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this connection was shown via a series of crossover adventures which more so connected a particular area of faerun with the plane from mtg of ravnica

sinful condor
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Quick question how long does it generally take for a dragon egg to hatch? does it depend on species or....?

jagged apex
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historically, at least back in 3.5e it was dependent on the species

agile merlin
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Didn't Elminster get a Magick card at some point?

jagged apex
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"Black Dragon: 480 days,
Blue Dragon: 600 days,
Brass Dragon: 480 days,
Bronze Dragon: 600 days,
Copper Dragon: 540 days,
Gold Dragon: 720 days,
Green Dragon: 480 days,
Red Dragon: 660 days,
Silver Dragon: 660 days,
White Dragon: 420 days"

jagged apex
feral lintel
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They arent canon to MtG lore anyway

jagged apex
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yeah, so even less relevant of who did or did not get a card on the mtg side of things

feral lintel
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They only chose planeswalkers for them since it made more sense for Elminster, Mordenkainen, and Tasha than them being creatures, but thats off topic

sick tiger
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I have a question I’m playing a goblin character with chaotic, good/chaotic, neutral alignment, leaning a bit more too good would that be possible?

feral lintel
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But goblins arent alignment locked

sand bronze
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When did gnomes star riding Capybaras? I mean, from a lore standpoint. One just popped up in a published adventure I’m running, and now my players are fascinated… I’m wondering where all the capybara ranches are…

iron saffron
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What?

unkempt merlin
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Which adventure? Aka which setting

feral lintel
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All i know about unusual mounts is halflings with dinosaurs in Eberron

jagged apex
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the smaller races to my knowledge often tend to have unconventional mounts

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or could be they just have a fondness for rodents, didn't giant space hamsters start as one of their experiments that kind of got out of hand?

feral lintel
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Yeap

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Halflings also tend to use doggos as mounts iirc

quick badge
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Why are Druid Subclasses Circles of <blank> and not any other shape

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?

sharp owl
agile patio
vital heron
# quick badge Why are Druid Subclasses Circles of <blank> and not any other shape

Circularity was likely taken as an inspiration from real-world druidic practices. Archeological sites of druid worship like Stonehenge are circular, as are other stone and various wood-based sites that have been found. This also then influenced neo-druidic practices involve people standing in a circle. So it's probably both referencing the circle's importance in the real-world thing they are basing it on, as well as being a nice synonym for, as the Google Dictionary-of-choice puts it, "a group of people with a shared profession, interests, or acquaintances."

hollow knoll
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What’s some basics of dnd lore I should know if I wanna DM in just the usual dnd setting

unkempt merlin
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There isn't a "usual" setting

sharp owl
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Even if you pick a setting, there aren't really basics

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It'd be more a case of

  1. Pick setting
  2. Pick where in that setting you're playing
  3. Pick when in that setting you're playing
  4. Look up specific information relevant to that
hollow knoll
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Hm alright fair

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Sorry I should of specified like maybe the sword coast of just faerun in general

sharp owl
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Even then, there aren't "basics"

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You've got anything from the pantheons of the forgotten realms to the history of any given race, city, or major faction, to wars and conflict or great events

grim siren
# hollow knoll Sorry I should of specified like maybe the sword coast of just faerun in general

Some basic lore on the Sword Coast.

The sword coast is a collection of city-states that line the north end of the Sea of swords. Graphically the sword coast begins around the area of Baldur's Gate. And ends in the city of Luskan. Going further north and you enter the area of frozenfar. Going further south you end up in the lands of intrigue.

This is a cosmopolitan place where many races come together. The sites of very old elven ruins dot the landscape from wars that happened to tens of thousands of years ago.

In current fifth edition, we are looking at the 1490s dr. DR. Stands for Dale reckoning which is the measure of the calendar for the majority of the forgotten realms.

Major trade hubs along the sword coast include Neverwinter, and Waterdeep .

Each one of these places have detailed lore in history about them. That's one of the great things about the realms. If you're looking for an answer, there's usually one somewhere. But of course you are not required to use any of them. In fact, you are encouraged by authors designers and even the creator to change anything about the realms to suit your needs

hollow knoll
grim siren
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Of course, just getting in the basics can help people out. I recommend looking at a YouTuber named Jorphdan. He has great deep dives and each one of these places as well as the realms in general.

hollow knoll
hollow knoll
grim siren
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The lands of Imtrigue cover the southern portion of the western side of Faerûn. It is typically made up of four nations those being Amn, Tethyr, Calimshan, and Erlkazar.

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If you're looking for some medieval European style fantasy like with noble houses and things like that, this is the region of the realm that she would want to set in. Less so than say the sword coast in the north.

hollow knoll
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Ooooh ok sounds interesting

hollow knoll
dusk quail
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Is there a lore reason druids can't wear metal or purely mechanical?

unkempt merlin
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In some (not all) settings it is because it's "not natural/too worked" (which you will note is a nonsense thing when they are wearing polished leather often)

In 5e it's not mechanical either

agile merlin
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And they use sickles and scimitars, which despite what you may have been told in school, do not grow on trees

modest badger
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Oe:

Druids are able to employ the following sorts of weapons: Daggers, sickle or crescent-shaped swords, spears, slings, and oil. They may wear armor of leather, and use wooden shields. They may not use metallic armor.

1e:

The more powerful druidic spells, as well as their wider range of weaponry, make up for the fact that druids are unable to use any armor or shields other than leather armor and wooden shields (metallic armor spoils their magical powers)
(...)
Druids can be visualized as medieval cousins of what the ancient Celtic sect of Druids would have become had it survived the Roman conquest

For me the no metal thing started off as what I percieve to be an 'aesthetic' choice. Druids are based on the druids recorded in roman reports, so they were the mistletoe and sickle waving, animal skin wearing 'barbarians'. Metal armour was too high tech for them.

In 2e they tried to give an actual lore reason:

Armor and Weapons Permitted. Most druids wear natural armor (leather) and use wooden shields. Other armors, especially metallic kinds, are forbidden to all druids. Most of the weapons permitted to druids of a particular branch resemble tools used in herding, hunting, and farming, or hold symbolic meaning to the druid. For instance, the curved scimitar and khopesh represent both the sickle used in the harvest and the crescent moon, which stands for birth, death, and rebirth in the cycle of Nature. The standard druid can use the following weapons: club, sickle, dart, spear, dagger, scimitar, sling, and staff (optional: scythe). Use of metallic weapons and tools usually remains unrestricted, but local availability can prove a problem, especially in areas like the arctic tundra.

  • The complete book of druids, 2e, pages 8-9
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Nowdays druids get these proficiencies:

Weapons: Clubs, daggers, darts, javelins, maces, quarterstaffs, scimitars, sickles, slings, spears
Note how similar they are to the older edition restrictions? With the only assumed metal ones being scimitars and sickles (curved blades).
And this is pointed out in the SAC, explaining it's partly design choice, partly storybased and lore, and not really game breaking to ignore:
Druids have a taboo against wearing metal armor and wielding a metal shield. The taboo has been part of the class’s story since the class first appeared in Eldritch Wizardry (1976) and the original Player’s Handbook (1978). The idea is that druids prefer to be protected by animal skins, wood, and other natural materials that aren’t the worked metal that is associated with civilization. Druids don’t lack the ability to wear metal armor. They choose not to wear it. This choice is part of their identity as a mystical order. Think of it in these terms: a vegetarian can eat meat, but chooses not to.

dusk quail
dusk quail
grim siren
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you also gotta think the designers of the original game were just dudes mostly from rural wisconsin long before the internet existed. a lot of the game's and Lore's quirks while still dumb make a lot more sense.

tardy osprey
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Anyone knows if Demon Lords have Avatar forms like Deities do?
Ex. Yeenoghu

iron saffron
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No because they're not divine. However, in 3.5E they did have aspects, which were weaker versions of the demon lords (lower CR monster statblock).

tardy osprey
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Ohhhh, "Aspects" then...

iron saffron
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3.5E archdevils had aspects as well. The archdevils themselves didn't have statblocks because they were more powerful (near god-level).

static condor
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Heyo, asking any lore heads from even the older editions of D&D in regards to whether there are celestials in existence known to be bearers of truth or some sort of variety of it?

A potential player of mine cooked up the usual redemption plot of restoring their crumbled noble house but he would need to somehow clear his name and convince others of his real truth. They are a paladin thus why a celestial might work.

vital heron
whole crane
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I apologize if this this a really stupid question but my knowledge of the forgotten realms is surface level at best and I want to make sure I'm not wrong. Is knowledge of the Nine Hells, the Seven Heavens, etc all common? Like, everyone is fully aware that they exist and the alignment assigned to them?

jolly tartan
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What are some inhabited islands close to the coast of the sword coast that are safe to have as a place to have come from in my background?

iron saffron
whole crane
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I know the alignment is more mechanic than lore, but like the Nine Hells are for the 'lawful' guys. Devils make deals and both sides must hold to the letter of those deals. The Abyss has the more chaotic demons who just do what they want.

I understand that no character will say "that's for the lawful neutral people" but would they understand who typically goes where?

iron saffron
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Yeah, the priests of the gods would educate their flock on where their souls would go to the afterlife.

unkempt merlin
iron saffron
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2E Planescape put more emphasis on the alignments of the Outer Planes and of the factions of Sigil that related to them.

agile merlin
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There also used to be languages based around the alignments, even though there was almost nothing you could actually use those languages for

whole crane
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Thank you muchly ^_^

jagged apex
dense shell
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Hii

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So I’m like super tripple obsessed w drow and their lore lmao

fathom wagon
vital heron
jagged apex
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that has nothing to do with lore

vital heron
jagged apex
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no, that is not what i am saying, you writing a version of a song for your portrail of the character is not lore based

vital heron
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I was replying to someone else who was talking about drow lore, it was a "me too".

jagged apex
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their's was honestly more so something for #dnd-discussion rather than the lore channel i feel

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cuz it is not actually asking anything about the published lore

vital heron
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I haven't read many of the novels.

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And I feel that's where that information would be.

jagged apex
vital heron
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It was asking about islands off the sword coast. It's on-topic for the channel.

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If anyone has read Gauntlegrym, it would be helpful to know how Jarlaxle was feeling through it - obviously, he took it upon himself to "right the wrong" - but was that out of anger for being tricked?

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Or did he feel actual regret over what happened?

jagged apex
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also, the history i can find, does not seem fair to attribute the eruption of mount hotenow to Jarlaxle

vital heron
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In the Year of Knowledge Unearthed, 1451 DR, Jarlaxle and Athrogate joined Dahlia Sin'felle in an expedition to Gauntlgrym, where they were tricked into releasing the fire primordial that destroyed the city of Neverwinter.

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Was that not Hotenow?

jagged apex
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look at the link

vital heron
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In the Year of Knowledge Unearthed, 1451 DR, a small adventuring party rediscovered the ancient dwarven city of Gauntlgrym beneath the volcano. The party, consisting of Dahlia Sin'felle, Korvin Dor'crae, Valindra Shadowmantle, Athrogate, and Jarlaxle Baenre, made it all the way to the legendary forges. There, the latter two were betrayed by their Thayan allies, with Athrogate hypnotically forced to activate the forge. This briefly awoke the primordial Maegera, who, in a fit of rage, released a burst of energy so powerful that it forced the eruption of the volcano. The resulting earthquake and combination of smoke and lava destroyed much of Neverwinter, killing thousands.[10][11] The eruption entirely destroyed the settlement of Thundertree.[12]

jagged apex
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it literally describes it and cites the details' sources

vital heron
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Yes, it's referring to how Jarlaxle was tricked into causing the eruption. It's the event I am trying to get more insight into - and asking about the book it references.

jagged apex
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i'd honestly say the thayans or the primordial itself are more responsable for the eruption than jarlaxle

vital heron
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It's not a question of us attributing blame as neutral observers, it's a question of whether the character in lore held himself responsible, and in what manner. I'm asking a specific question about the context behind the events, because I haven't read the book.

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After all, he put himself in danger to re-seal the primordial.

jagged apex
vital heron
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Yes. That's my point. You are just linking me to the wiki articles about the events that I am referring to, but this is not the issue.

jagged apex
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though that is just a guess based on what i know of the character and the description given

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seems it depends weather or not he attempted to right this wrong so that the would be vicitims could be manipulated or not

vital heron
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Linking to a wiki page is not an answer to this question, as I have said. The question arises from what's not said in the wikis, but in the source novels. If not really a question that can be constructively answered with links to the wiki.

jagged apex
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in which case it would be better to ask the author if you are able to get in contact with him

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as he is described as being in personality more than anything an opprotunist

vital heron
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That's getting more into #dm-discussion territory about how to characterise him in a particular campaign, I am asking a specific question about the events of a novel that neither of us have read.

jagged apex
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fair, though i am not sure how many have read them or even own the book and could potentially check, often most of the time the published lore is what is being talked about for various editions or settings, rarely are people asking things about the novel continuities far as i am aware

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like at best far as i am aware examples from novels are cited as a possible answer to other questions that are not necessarily rooted in the novels themselves more often than not

shy nexus
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The wiki articles on the Drizzt novels have been pieced together by Drizzt fans over two decades and are far from complete or comprehensive. If you want to get right down into the storyline, you need to check the novels themselves. You can borrow it from Internet Archive here:
https://archive.org/details/gauntlgrym00rasa

thorny helm
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How can vlaakith grant divine spells despite not ebing a diety? Shouldnt her clerics be warlocks?

unkempt merlin
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A deity isn't required for a cleric to exist

serene crater
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quick question with the book of vile darkness. I know there were believed to be six copies of the book in existence, and I wanted to ask was it ever noted in lore of what separated them other than the author?

cinder folio
sharp owl
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@eager bay What is meant by the D&D universe/multiverse/cosmology being "non-physical" in its geometry is that the various models for the planes of existence don't represent a spatial arrangement of planes, but more of a way of visualising their metaphysical relationships

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The Outer Planes aren't physically further out than the Inner Planes, nor are the Upper Planes "higher" than the Lower Planes

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There are various models; world tree, great wheel, the world axis

eager bay
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if i start flying

sharp owl
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Okay, that wasn't clear

eager bay
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does the movement i'm about to do follow which of the 2 types of geometry

sharp owl
brittle sage
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Is asmodeus currently a greator deity guys ?

iron saffron
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Yes.

brittle sage
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Can he give spells to his worshippers ?

iron saffron
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Yes.

brittle sage
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What is his portfolio then ?

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I can't find what it is

unkempt merlin
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The Hells

brittle sage
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And also his domains actually

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Is it war domain for him ?

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
brittle sage
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Thx

unkempt merlin
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Ah close enough

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Keep in mind domains are for clerics, and a cleric of a given domain doesn't necessarily need to have a domain that is directly under their gods portfolio (assuming they have a god)

iron saffron
void summit
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Hello, Lore Bards. I was in a discussion the other day about the origin of Elves. I seem to remember that Elves were created by Corellon Larethian, and, when they reach maturity, they remember “past lives.” Then, when they die, they go back to another plane waiting to be “reborn.” I thought this lore originated in 3e, but I cannot find it in my sourcebooks. Does it come from any edition? Or am I conflating non-canon with canon?

iron saffron
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They forget their past lives when they reach 100-years-old.

void summit
iron saffron
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Lore was cumulated over the editions.

agile merlin
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Neat

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I don't suppose half-elves have any trace of that?

iron saffron
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Of their past lives? No, only full elves can reincarnate (even then only those who worship the Seldarine).

void summit
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I found the most complete explanation in MTF (5e). Half-Elves are thought to be either full elf souls with weaker links to reincarnation, or a half-soul that the elves do not know how it works in the reincarnation circle.

unkempt merlin
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depends on setting

void summit
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Also, MTF also says elves have memories of past lives in their dreams during their trance < 100 years old, and then again > 300 or 400 years old. Whereas Drow have no memories, but have a silent state.

agile merlin
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Are there any known half-elves who serve the Seladrine?

modest badger
agile merlin
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Huh, neat

tardy wasp
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Why does Corellon have the crescent moon as their holy symbol?

The other chief racial deities have symbol that seem pretty clear: Moradin the archetypal smith with his anvil symbol; Yondalla the mother of luck and bounty with her cornucopia symbol; Garl the golden with his gold nugget symbol; and one-eyed Gruumsh with his bloody, all-seeing eye.

How does the crescent moon fit into Corellon’s aspects or mythology in any way?

modest badger
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Perhaps tied to Corellon's ever changing nature and fluidity. The Moon changes in phase and nature, as does Corellon. In 1e Legend Lore they were represented by a blue quarter moon.

jagged apex
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at least he changed a lot more before lolth convinced some elves to become a fixed to one form much like her

next sage
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is there an official/semiofficial banking system in the forgotten realms? (ie place you can store gold off-person and retrieve it somewhere else, or to convert currency [1 gold into 10 silver, etc])

jagged apex
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not one single one, but i believe such things are handeled by the various banks in the various cities

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i could be wrong though

grim siren
brittle sage
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Who is tharizdun ?

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Is he a god ?

iron saffron
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Yes

brittle sage
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Or even a greator deity like on level of ao ?

iron saffron
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No. Ao is an overgod.

brittle sage
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The fact that it took all the Gods to beat him means he must have been extremely powerful

iron saffron
brittle sage
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I saw some lore about him being chained by all the Gods

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I think he is meant to be basically the apocalypse

agile merlin
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Well, one of them at least

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He's credited as the creator of the Abyss, more or less

brittle sage
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I see okay

agile merlin
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Most of his worshippers don't realize who they're praising, either, because he's developed a sort of alias as the Elemental Evil Eye (I think)

modest badger
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Yeah Tharizdun / EEE/ EEG/ Ghaunadaur/ Jubilex/ Dark one are a weird thing because technically Tharizdun and EEE started off as entirely different gods in 1e. Tharizdun was a forgotton god representing entropy and void, and EEE was some primordial chaos god that induced insanity.

Ghaunadaur is Faerun's EEG/EEE in 2e, with Jubilex being a 'He's somehow connected but different', and Tharizdun was still separate.

Then in 3.5 they decided that Tharizdun was EEG and Ghaunadaur was separate.

In 4e, Jubilex is the infection caused by Tharizdun, when he sticks a shard of evil into the Primordial Chaos of the Abyss.

In general though, Tharizdun is scary big primordial god who is cause of evil and badness, and will probably destroy the world if he was ever fully freed.

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Which is the very short cliff notes. I could do a whole 'pepe silvia' rant with quotes, but luckily for you lot, I need to head off dndLol

raven pivot
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Tharizdun sounds like if charizard was evil

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Is there like a book on dnd lore

iron saffron
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Do you have an actual lore question?

raven pivot
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Yes

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Where do I read lore

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Its so confusing

iron saffron
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Which setting?

feral lintel
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The wiki

iron saffron
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D&D has been around for 50 years with numerous official campaign settings.

vital heron
# raven pivot Where do I read lore

Many of the adventure books contain the lore you would need to understand that particular adventure. Some even have it as a separate document - like Waterdeep Dragonheist. But most people tend to then supplement that with a Wiki that collects all of the info from all of the editions and spinoffs. For example, the Forgotten Realms wiki: https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

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Forgotten Realms is the "main" setting, used for most of the books and the recent movie. There are other settings.

raven pivot
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What.

sharp owl
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Which part of that do you not quite get?

vital heron
# raven pivot What.

"settings" are like different universes. Forgotten Realms is your classic sword and spell fantasy kitchen sink universe, where most of the books are set, and the movie. Eberron is a sort of more steampunk-with-magic. Dragonlance is darker. There's also some books set in the Magic: The Gathering universe. They are also kinda all connected via a multiverse lore, which accommodates some of the cotnradictions.

dense palm
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Hey so my character is extremely tied to to raven queen i've tried reading up on alot of lore and im wondering would there be any notable locations in faerun or another area other than the shadowfell?

eager bay
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Difficult to say. The Raven Queen is a rather recent concept

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What exactly do you need?

dense palm
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Fair enough, i guess ill try and do something with her rivalries with some of the demonlords like Orcus. As for what i need it doesn't have to be anything major but maybe something like if there are any temples or anything minor related to her

eager bay
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Honestly, she is very tied to the Shadowfell and almost banished from every other plane.

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The fact that she was more or less unpersoned by the elven gods doesn't help.

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But you could have a temple that exists in both the shadowfell and the material

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Or know the location of a shadowfell portal that would lead to a temple or community devoted to her

dense palm
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Yeah i know she is basically deleted from most realms and is mostly worshipped in secret. Was just curious if there was anything existing or if i had to discuss something with the dm. Thank you so much for the help though ill talk to my dm about it

dusk tartan
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what color are fr orcs?

jagged apex
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depends

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there are different species/subspecies of orcs in the forgotten realms, the most common of them are grey @dusk tartan

crude sparrow
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Qq. Is the Radiant Citadel supposed to be the/a multi versal hub between the various material planes?

iron saffron
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The Material Plane is the universe, not a world, where most mortals dwell.

crude sparrow
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ah ok so misunderstoond the terms but is it kinda the same? Like could you go from Theros to Faerun through the Radiant Citadel?

vital heron
# dense palm Hey so my character is extremely tied to to raven queen i've tried reading up on...

You might want to look at Shadow Crossings, which are points where one can move to the Shadowfell (similar to Fey Crossings with the feywild). There was a failed one in Wheloon, Corymr, under a temple that was publicly dedicated to Mystra but was actually a Sharran temple - that was from a 3.5e adventure called Cormyr: the tearing of the weave. There's also apparently some lore about crossings in a 4e setting book called The Shadowfell: Gloomwrought and Beyond, which mostly focuses on a large city there.

verbal bone
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||a crossing into the shadowfell||

sharp owl
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These aren't fixed, and instead are based on the people of the radiant citadel

crude sparrow
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Ok, is there a place like that in 5e?

sharp owl
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Sigil is the multiversal hub

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Every world in the material plane, and every plane in existence, is said to connect to Sigil, the City of Doors

crude sparrow
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Thank you

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Are the worlds connected outside of Sigil? I know dream of the blue veil is a spell that technically connects them

sharp owl
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Yep, via multiple means

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  • You can teleport from one world to another via the teleport spell
  • You can planeshift to a different plane, say Avernus or Bitopia or any other plane, then planeshift back to the material plane, but a different world
  • You could enter a color pool into the Astral Plane, fly through the Astral Sea, and then find another color pool back to a different point on the material plane
  • A spelljammer vessel could take you from a world in the material plane, out into Wildspace, then beyond that into the Astral Sea. You can then navigate the astral sea until you reach the wildspace surrounding another world in the material plane, transition into that system, and then land on that world
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Oh, there's also the World Serpent Inn, which acts a lot like Sigil in some ways

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I'm sure there are other ways in addition to that

verbal bone
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You could put a bag of holding into a portable hole and get to the Astral plane.

sharp owl
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That's not a means of travelling between worlds on the material plane

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Both because it's one way and because it leads to a random location in the astral plane

verbal bone
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Yep.

jagged apex
sharp owl
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That adventure was published by the MtG team, not the D&D team, so it's relevance to D&D lore is questionable

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There's also a lot of stuff about the D&D and MtG multiverses that makes trying to cross-link them very messy

jagged apex
jagged apex
sharp owl
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In MtG, travel between planes is only possible via three means

  • Planeswalker spark
  • Transplanar Gate
  • Realmbreaker the World Tree
    All of these methods provide protection from the Blind Eternities, a plane of existence that is instantly destructive to all life except Eldrazi
    There is nothing stated to explain how that can be reconciled with the D&D cosmology
jagged apex
dense palm
jagged apex
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but would avoid any of the domains of dread, cuz while technically part of the shadowfell in 5e, they are sort of mostly cut off from the rest of the cosmos and would require some convoluted stuff to make getting out remotely reasonable, likely can count the scenarios one may be able to escape the domains of dread on one hand, is far from a common thing

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bigby's glory of the giants also when reintroduced the idea of there being places in the material plane where the barrier for lack of a better term is thinnest, in the lore for the death giants, but since that book is setting agnostic, to my knowledge no examples of such locations were given, though i could be wrong

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most well known and fleshed out place in relation to the shadowfell for where one could live their life, to my knowledge regardless of your edition is gloomwrought

dense palm
crude sparrow
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Thanks for all the info guys I'm thinking about it for my campaign.

So if inter world travel is very much possible, would it be possible to establish a multi versal trading hub say on Faerun with portals and connections that build up over time or no

feral lintel
sharp owl
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This channel is more concerned with what is not what could be

eager bay
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Out of curiousity, lore wise, does Fâerun have Slavery?

unkempt merlin
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Yes

tardy wasp
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Does the Feywild have any particular connection to the moon or moonlight in DnD lore?

Like, the First World dragons that hatched there became moonstone dragons. Corellon Larethian, the major deity of the primary fey-descended race, has a crescent moon as one of their symbols. This same god also manifested (depending on which edition's lore you're using) not one but 2 lunar deities from their metaphysical blood. The fey/nature themed Oath of the Ancients grants a holy warrior the power to call down a moonbeam. Fairy rings open on the night of the full moon... Feels like there has to be some link, right?

unkempt merlin
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no more than anything else has connections to the moon. Frankly its moreso due to the associations of the moon and nature/fairies/what have you in irl mythos

jagged apex
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plus evil gods like Bane are likely to keep the practice going for ages to come if we are being honest

agile merlin
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Plus, gotta keep alive the tradition of every evil-aligned demihuman being slavers and/or cannibals

unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Hypotetically and curiousity wise obviously

agile merlin
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100%, especially if you were with a dragon cult, I think

eager bay
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Interesting……what about goblin slaves?

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For the reasons of curiousity of course

agile merlin
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I mean, most goblins who work for other goblinoids typically do so begrudgingly at best. That's part why they pick on anything and anyone they can do so and get away with, cuz they're tired of being the ones picked on

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Not sure how reliable they'd be, though

eager bay
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Yea i guess but hey slaves-

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I meant old timey farming equipment

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Gotta count for something

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Right?

agile merlin
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I guess they mature pretty fast...

eager bay
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Exactly but dragonborn and half-orcs meanwhile are much better

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They are stronger, more hard working, and their low iq means they dont understand the basic concept of freedom

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Hypotheically obviously

rough finch
eager bay
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Whoa there! Are tou excusing me a racism against those bipedial idiotic farming equipment lizards? I mean dragonborns?

verbal bone
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Maybe keep the roleplay off this channel when discussing a sensitive topic?

eager bay
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Yeah fair enough

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My apologizes people

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I get to comfortable to the point i use the humor i use with my d&d group yk

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But anyways i do have a actual question about the lore

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For my character, what would be the closest nation, city, or place in the forgotten realms that is similar to the Byzantine Empire and Constantinople?

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Also what would be a place in the forgotten realms similar to Scandinavia (during the 800s AD)

unkempt merlin
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I think perhaps it might be a good idea to let the questions rest for a bit as its... pretty obvious what you are angling for

eager bay
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Imma take that advice and use it

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Thanks dude

jagged apex
agile merlin
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That wasn't what I meant to imply, just that evil bugbears and ogres usually eat humans, and evil hobgoblins include people in the spoils of war

jagged apex
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no, they don't

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well ogres are known to, but never heard bugbears eating humans or humanoids

agile merlin
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It's implied in the joke disclaimer in the player handbook, at least: "WIZARDS OF THE COAST IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONSEQUENCES OF [...] ACCEPTING A DINNER INVITATION FROM BUGBEARS"

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And the monster manual entry for hobgoblins opens with a war chant with the line "Their children are our slaves"

jagged apex
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like sure they engage in slavery and take prisoners, but just cuz they have a reputation of being evil cuz of the majority people encounter does not make them inherently evil, that is more like a 1e and 2e thing to my knowledge, so is edition dependent if you think of any races being inherently evil, outside of a dm's own world

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but again, literally never heard anything about bugbears eating humanoids, so either that joke is super easy to overlook or i just happened to overlook it every time

agile merlin
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Again, you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say there were inherently evil races in 5e, though I did apparently conflate legacy info about bugbears with how they are now

agile merlin
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Is Mystra also the Weave for other crystal spheres, like say Greyspace or Krynn, or do the primary magic deities fill that role there, or is the Weave even established as part of those worlds lore?

iron saffron
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Mystra is the goddess of magic for just Realmspace.
The Weave is a FR thing but it seems like WotC has expanded it in general since it's mentioned outside of FR, such as in the PHB.

agile merlin
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Ah

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I did check and there isn't really a mention of Weave on the Greyhawk wiki, yeah

modest badger
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The weave does now, in 5e, exist in the multiverse. They pulled a 'rose by any other name' move:

The Weave of Magic (PHB p.205)

Mortals can't directly shape this raw magic. Instead, they make use of a fabric of magic, a kind of interface between the will of a spellcaster and the stuff of raw magic.** The spellcasters of the Forgotten Realms call it the Weave and recognize its essence as the goddess Mystra, but casters have varied ways of naming and visualizing this interface.**

**By any name, without the Weave, raw magic is locked away and inaccessible; **...

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Prior to this in earlier editions, If you go with Greyhawk being the main setting of AD&D, so AD&D rules are Greyhawk rules unless stated otherwise, here is how magic was described in general:

All magic and cleric spells are similar in that the word sounds, when combined into whatever patterns are applicable, **are charged with energy from the Positive or Negative Material Plane. When uttered, these sounds cause the release of this energy, which in turn triggers a set reaction. **The release of the energy contained in these words is what causes the spell to be forgotten or the writing to disappear from the surface upon which it is written.
The triggering action draws power from some plane of the multiverse. Whether the spell is an abjuration conjuration, alteration, enchantment, or whatever, there is a flow of energy - first from the spell caster, then from some plane to the area magicked or enspelled by the caster. The energy flow is not from the caster per se, it is from the utterance of the sounds, each of which is charged with energy which is loosed when the proper formula and/or ritual is completed with their utterance. This power then taps the desired plane (whether or not the spell user has any idea of what or where it is) to cause the spell to function. It is much like plugging into a heater; the electrical outlet does not hold all of the electrical energy to cause the heater to function, but the wires leading from it, ultimately to the power station, bring the electricity to the desired location.
-1e DMG p40

agile merlin
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So raw magic didn't used to be a thing either?

static sinew
jagged apex
jagged apex
modest badger
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I'm not actually sure what the generic explanation for magic was in 3.X outside of FR. PHb and DMG don't really go into it as far as I could see, and with the AD&D logic not being repeated, hard to say that's was the lore still. Greyhawk also was iffy as a proper setting in 3.X.
Technically it was still the 'core' setting, but not really, and it's RPGA setting books don't tend to go into that as much.

jagged apex
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at the very least, from what is known about mystra, and if you take ed greenwoods added lore from things like his videos on his youtube channel into account, mystra is limited to realmspace and can't really extend beyond it via the weave save for where those who she has as weave anchors, like volo, go

storm dagger
honest crypt
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So... bullywugs are humanoids that speak Primordial at times. Do you guys know any other races besides the elemental things that speak it? Just frogs and elementals seems weird, so there must be other animals

iron saffron
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Bullywugs speak Bullywug.
Bullywugs aren't frogs or animals (Beasts).

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Bullywug speaking Primordial was from the 4E statblock.

static sinew
vital heron
static sinew
storm dagger
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Elturel is part of its own nation Elturgard

static sinew
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I just need war to happen. Any war is a good distraction

sharp owl
verbal bone
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What’s the climate along the sword coast? Does it ever snow in Baldur’s Gate?

feral lintel
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I know it will near the mountains

vital heron
verbal bone
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That helps me a bit. I imagine Baldur’s Gate might get some snow then, occasionally.

iron saffron
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I would imagine the Sword Coast not unlike the Pacific Northwest Coast where Portland-Seattle-Vancouver are.

vital heron
verbal bone
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Yeah i checked there first. 😅

jagged apex
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so mainly the most likely candidates are gunna be elementals or otherwise those who have a connection to the elemental planes in some way, like the genasi for example

honest crypt
honest crypt
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Thanks everyone. I was thinking of some sort of primordial supervillain that was bossing them around, making them pillage

agile merlin
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Possibly :p

jagged apex
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no shoratage of such beings in the lore for a cult to revolve around, heck, there is at least 4 of them in the lore 😛

molten pasture
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Idk if this should go here or in character discussion.

It was hinted that our group would be doing decent to avernus next.

So I was debating playing a Dragonborn cultist of Tiamit. But I read that lore wise this wouldn’t be a good combo.

feral lintel
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Not really a lore question

molten pasture
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Well in lore would such a Dragonborn be possible or is it so unlikely that I should reconsider?

feral lintel
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While dragonborn do not really like the dragon gods, they all arent beholden to that

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(Fizban's gave us Champions of Tiamat and Bahamut anyway, both of which being dragonborn)

unkempt merlin
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There's a pretty famous one in Arkhan

feral lintel
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Now, that man, he serves Tiamat willingly

unkempt merlin
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It'd be a fine combo lorewise

molten pasture
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Ok 🙂

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Thank you 🙏

teal hatch
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Is it possible for a Rakshasa to be good?

iron saffron
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Yes.

teal hatch
feral lintel
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Arent Rakshasa fiends though?

iron saffron
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Yes but there's even a chance for fiends to "rise to grace" (although they may not survive fleeing the Lower Planes being hunted down by their brethrens).

teal hatch
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I'm thinking about playing a satyr (reflavored to be a weakened rakshasa) bard warlock and was curious

iron saffron
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If celestials can fall from grace and become evil, fiends could become good. 2E Planescape's "Faces of Evil: The Fiends" covers "good" fiends who manage to become good despite their infernal/demonic nature.

agile merlin
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They're also traditionally less than trusting, as there's always the chance any creature they meet is either an agent of other fiends or one themselves, seeking to kill the traitor

iron saffron
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That's between you and your DM on a reflavoured weakened rakshasa.

teal hatch
agile merlin
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Another question about that. Would such a rakshasha still have their vulnerability to piercing weapons wielded by good warriors?

iron saffron
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Sure.

teal hatch
iron saffron
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Their natural traits wouldn't change.

teal hatch
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That's fair

iron saffron
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Back in 3E Dragon Magazine's "Fight Club" article series, they had Eludecia, a LG succubus paladin. Her succubus/demon traits remained the same despite being both LG and a paladin (at the time 3E, paladins could only be LG).

Regrettably WotC deleted the archives of her stats from the site.

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She also appeared in Legend of the Silver Skeleton, a short adventure in 3E Dungeon Magazine.

agile merlin
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Paladins only LE?

iron saffron
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Typo.

modest badger
agile merlin
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Ah ohp

spare violet
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My question from #dm-discussion :

Does anyone know of any older books that detail the spiritual paths Pilgrims and Archons take to ascend Mount Celestia? The Manual of the Planes and The Book of Exalted Deeds mention them, but don't go in depth. I was wondering if they were detailed somewhere. I like the idea of offering them as an option to my party, but I don't have the time to fully populate and detail all the options myself.

odd fossil
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Would it be thematically inconsistent for a 5e Shadar Kai to be a cleric of Shar? I only ask because I know that they get the blessing of the raven queen and not sure how thar would mesh with worshipping a different deity?

limber kayak
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Can someone please explain how the death cube thing came into existence and how it works?

iron saffron
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What death cube?

limber kayak
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Idk man, I just remember hearing about it once and was wondering

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Also you have an amazing username

iron saffron
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Well, that doesn't help if you don't know where this "death cube" is from. Do you know which edition and/or campaign setting?

warped heron
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ok so, i'm writing a backstory, and i'm really new to the lore, locations, and etc of dnd. if a lolth-sworn drow were to try to escape Menzoberranzan, what city or area would they flee to?

grim siren
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Depends do they stay in the under dark or head to the surface

warped heron
grim siren
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Heading to the surface you will want to look at regions in Faerûn like following.

The Savage Frontier
The Silver Marches
Icewind Dale

For a prime example. Look up Drizzt Do'Urden, he left menzobarrenzan and came to the surface. The novel Sojourn by RA Salvatore explains what happened to him on the surface.

warped heron
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ty!

grim siren
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Any time!

The Dark Elf Trilogy is the start of the Drizzt series.

Book one is all about menzobarrenzan

Book two is all about the under dark

Book three is all about the surface

limber kayak
fathom wagon
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definitely not "death cube"

feral lintel
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Gelatinous cubes are indeed death cubes

verbal bone
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Jellycube.

iron saffron
near musk
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Is it canon to ravenloft that Kas has a dread realm or is that something idle champions made up for it game story?

sharp owl
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Yep, it's stated in Van Richten's. He's the Darklord of Tovag

near musk
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Ok thanks

near musk
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is one paragraph all we get about this domain you think a iconic character like Kas would get more than that?

tame jacinth
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I mean domains of dread can be entire planets

near musk
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Though if my new theory is right I think that might change soon

tame jacinth
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Or planes

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Borovia is very large but small compared to other domains of dread

sharp owl
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Domains of dread are demiplanes, they're limited in size

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I don't believe any are "entire planets"

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The biggest get up to continent sizes, such as Bluetspur

jagged apex
# near musk is one paragraph all we get about this domain you think a iconic character like ...

likely is so limited cuz it was one of many "other" domains of dread rather than the major ones that got more dedicated focus, plus to my knowledge and from what i could find, he is more so known for his hatred and betrayal of vecna and the magical item he is associated with as seems his publication history is not all that big at least compared to vecna who likely has more lore to him partially do to him being a god and having escaped the domains of dread long ago https://greyhawkonline.com/greyhawkwiki/Kas

grim siren
# near musk is one paragraph all we get about this domain you think a iconic character like ...

Tovag is one of the older realms of dread from second edition It. Its a fun place and has a lot of design elements that were common then like how most domains fit together to form an ever growing land mass called the Core.

Which helps explain things like Strahd's wars with other Dread Lords.

Tovag was situated across from a mountain range called the Burning Peaks. On the other side was Citadel Caviticus. The Domain of Dread that housed Vecna named after his old citadel on the Quasi-Elemental Plane of Ash

This caused both sides to eternally fight, but neither side ever gains an advantage. Cavitius may have survived after its master Vecna's escape from the Demiplane of Dread, but it is unclear who would be its new master, if the land has escaped simply dissolving into the Mists.

You can explore Caviticus in the 2e adventure, Vecna Reborn. Which was part of the multiverse spanning Vecna Trilogy that ushered in third edition.

Vecna Lives <- Greyhawk
Vecna Reborn <- Ravenloft
Die Vecna Die <- Planescape

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Granted WOTC intentionally got rid of the Core. Which sadly raises more questions than it ever helped. Granted the Core and Ravenloft had many changes along its life. But there was usually an in world reason and less just because.

jagged apex
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from what i can find on what the core is historically, the possibility is still there with some of the things mentioned in the entry for darkon, depending how you view it, since is basically domains of dread that are connected even without the mists, else since from what i can recall prior the domains of dread were their own separate collection of demiplanes rather than the section of the shadowfell they are in the 5e continuity, so that could be one thing in universe that caused it to sort of rework that detail of how the domains exist alongside one another

grim siren
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"This incarnation of Ravenloft reimagines a great deal of what came before. Past explorations of the setting directly linked many of the domains of Ravenloft into a pseudo-continent called the ‘Core’. We’ve taken the Core, the heart of the Ravenloft setting, and shattered it. In this new interpretation, every domain is a lonely island drifting through the mists."

In the Works: Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft
Dragon+ 36

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Its not easy to find information since WOTC is down right allergic to archiving their own stuff even from current editions. But I believe it can be found still via the Wayback Machine. I manually downloaded my copy of Dragon+ as well WOTC has a tendency to really not care about archiving things.

jagged apex
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ah, i don't tend to look at dragon+ often, if at all, just kind of tend to forget it exists ^^;

grim siren
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So did WOTC when they nuked the site lmao

jagged apex
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well even before then, at least to me, it was fairly obscure and did not seem to miss out on much of importance while sticking to the published products and books, especially since stuff that is "in the works" would be subject to change

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i think the one time i did look up any of it was when i was looking for more info on the bagman

steady verge
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In the Realms, wasn’t there several events involving the gods cracking down on mortals and wounding magic?

agile merlin
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I think I read that one of the Mystra's got like indicted for incompetence or something when she tried to deny magic to evil wizards

jagged apex
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not to my knowledge

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also, honestly not sure what ace means by "wounding magic"

steady verge
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I had to google it, I was thinking of the Spellplague’s

jagged apex
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the spellplague was not that, it was basically a massive magical disaster, to my knowledge it had nothing to do with gods cracking down on mortals or anything like that

agile merlin
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That was because Helm killed Mystra, wasn't it?

jagged apex
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it was the result of a botched powerplay by shar

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no, cyric

steady verge
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I was combining 2 separate events then.

jagged apex
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helm was back during the time of troubles

steady verge
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The Forgotten Realms lore has always been intimidating to me

jagged apex
steady verge
jagged apex
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that is just something that happens when a setting is established and used long and often enough

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plus with ed greenwood himself willing to answer fan's questions about the realms outside of what we get in published materials, i'd argue it is potentially one of the most accessible established settings in terms of learning it's lore

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i find learning of it via respected lore youtubers in the fandom easiest if reading the sources myself winds up seeing too daunting, so if you are having trouble, you may just need to try changing how you absorb the knowledge

agile merlin
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It does say "Cause: Mystra's desth" but I'm assuming Cyric was pulling strings

jagged apex
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actually, if i recall correctly, shar had manipulated or otherwise had cyric do it on her behalf

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so if anything i feel shar was the one pulling strings in that situation, is kind of her thing or at least one thing she is known well for

agile merlin
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Like how Mystra is known well for dying and thus causing magical breakdowns

jagged apex
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no, as subterfuge and the like are things she engourages in her clergy

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plus the magical disasters are just natural outcomes for the death of the setting's deity that literally is the magic in a way

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you kill magic itself, or at least the major part that keeps it working, would be wierd if things didn't spiral into disaster

agile merlin
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Kind of a skill issue that magic itself keeps getting merked

jagged apex
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well comes with the territory, magic is one of the most powerful portfolios and often the gods want more power, and in mystra's case the majority of her power she has to literally keep hidden elsewhere and thus does not technically have access to

storm dagger
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Mystra was then killed during the time of troubles by Helm, and at the end of the time of troubles the mortal mage Midnight was granted Mystra’s portfolio and powers

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Midnight decided to just use the name Mystra for herself to make the change easier for the old Mystra’s followers

tardy wasp
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"Shifters are sometimes called weretouched, as they are descendants of people who contracted full or partial lycanthropy."

What exactly is partial lycanthropy? Is this a concept that has been mentioned anywhere else in DnD lore besides the MotM Shifter description?

agile merlin
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One of the suggestions for path of beast barbarian is lycanthrope parents, but that's all I can think of

jagged apex
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at least to my knowledge that is what i ment in the case of shifters as i am not aware of any other examples

reef coral
jagged apex
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honestly, bloodhunter to my knowledge is in a sort of weird grey area if it is 3rd party or not

unkempt merlin
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Bloodhunters exist in an official setting

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Even if they aren't playable officially

sharp owl
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Yeah, from a lore perspective they exist in a qualifying capacity for discussion in this channel. The Claret Order is detailed in EGTW

azure scaffold
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And, survival instinct? Like when you touch fire and because It hurts you put your hand away
Would they work the same or something else happens

unkempt merlin
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Same way as anything else

azure scaffold
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👍, ty

verbal barn
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how does a vampire become a vampire lord?

sharp owl
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The same way a mortal becomes a mortal lord, accumulate power

verbal barn
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do they have to get a certain number of spawns to become a lord?

sharp owl
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No, the same that you don't need to have a certain number of vassal/serfs/peasants to become a mortal lord

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It's a title denoting you have power

verbal barn
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hm okay, so power and possibly influence over other people too

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could it be the same way a mortal can become a god? by adquiring influence and followers too?

sharp owl
cinder folio
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Has a mortal become a god in D&D?

obsidian gate
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Depends on the setting but in most of them, the answer is yes

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Even multiple times usually

cinder folio
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Got any names I could read up on?

obsidian gate
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The raven queen, the dead three, mystra

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Vecna

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Karsus, lol

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(Only for a moment )

cinder folio
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Ta!

grim siren
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Kelemvor, and Cyric as well

modest badger
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In Greyhawk, Murlynd, Keoghtom, Heward and Kelanan have been since 1e. Quasi and Hero deities often come from mortal stock

jagged apex
jagged apex
# obsidian gate Karsus, lol

from what i am aware Ao really rubbed his acts that led to his ruin and death by giving him the portfolio of hubris

feral lintel
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Owch

jagged apex
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like, if the events of his folly, and the destruction and deaths of the city he loved and was trying to protect, and it's people, did not show him he screwed up, that definitely did i'd imagine

agile merlin
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His soul is permanently trapped in the Prime Material too, pretty sure

jagged apex
jagged apex
agile merlin
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Bro thinks he the big boss man with his two stone tablets

jagged apex
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?

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if you mean Ao, tablets or no tablets, he is, that is a fact, at least in regards to realmspace

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and far as i am aware, karsus and his folly were before the tablets of fate were even introduced/established

storm dagger
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Heck he broke the tablets at the end of the Time of Troubles cause he did not need them.

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Though he remade them during the Second Sundering.

jagged apex
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cuz one part of the thing about the tablets is that they effectively kept toril and abier in their seperated state and without them, they were slowly drifting back together and likely would have destroyed each other or worse, reignited the war between the gods and the primordials, as splitting the planet into two and giving one to the primordials to rule was part of the thing that ended the dawn war to begin with last i checked

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from what i recall, the reason he remade them was to stablize realmspace again and prevent the two sister worlds from colliding/remerging

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admittedly i am a little fussy on some of the details of that regard

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but the tablets were more so symbolic than anything, is why the dead three when they stole them and though they could use it to bolster their power, couldn't

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was largely in regards to the gods ment to serve as a reminder of their duties, ie the jobs they are suppose to do

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the main power that we at least know about is serving as a barrier between the worlds of abier and toril

jagged apex
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cuz honestly, with the dead 3 having once been mortals, make sense they presumably unlike the other gods they were not aware of the facts of what the tablets were and were not

agile merlin
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From https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Karsus under "Fate"

"Karsus was never accepted as a petitioner by any god, nor did he go to the Fugue Plane when he died. Instead, his soul was bound to the Material Plane. Those with experience in pact magic could call up his vestige, where he appeared as a giant blood-red boulder, like the one found in the High Forest where his petrified form landed." So, presumably, he could even give some boons to warlocks, from the sound of it?

jagged apex
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at least back in 3e, warlocks worked a bit differently back then plus his fate has not been really touched on since, so potentially could have changed, but he is to my knowledge at least still a valid warlock patron in the vain of a great old one

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must have overlooked it or just forgotten that part then i guess, as i did not recall it

agile merlin
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Isn't it assumed as still being canon so long as 5e doesn't directly contradict it?

jagged apex
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yeah, but i am just saying could change in the future and i forgot it as i either overlooked it or forgot, probably cuz it is not brought up much when anyone talks about karsus

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at least the part of his soul being bound to the prime material plane is news to me

stiff warren
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Is anyone aware of how to travel to/from the Astral Sea/Plane? I'm playing an Astral Elf and DM is curious if for RP/Lore purpose if Astral Elves can inherently travel there and wiki pages aren't being exactly straight forward

unkempt merlin
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Astral elves have no innate ability to travel to and from the Astral. It is just where they originate from.

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They access the Astral the same ways as anyone else, via spells, portals, and spelljammers

stiff warren
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Gotcha, that's what I thought. Though some wiki said you can walk into the Astral Plane from the Ethereal and I don't know enough about SpellJammer to dispute it. Thank you!

iron saffron
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Astral Plane and Ethereal Plane are two separate transitional planes, the former connects to the Outer Planes and the latter connects to the Inner Planes.

stiff warren
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So they don't connect? (I have ZERO clue how all the planes connect and such) I assumed they were like the world's from Thor The Dark World😅

iron saffron
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https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/appendix-d-the-planes-of-existence#TransitivePlanes

The Ethereal Plane is a misty, fog-bound dimension that is sometimes described as a great ocean. Its shores, called the Border Ethereal, overlap the Material Plane and the Inner Planes, so that every location on those planes has a corresponding location on the Ethereal Plane. Certain creatures can see into the Border Ethereal, and the see invisibility and true seeing spell grant that ability. Some magical effects also extend from the Material Plane into the Border Ethereal, particularly effects that use force energy such as forcecage and wall of force. The depths of the plane, the Deep Ethereal, are a region of swirling mists and colorful fogs.

The Astral Plane is the realm of thought and dream, where visitors travel as disembodied souls to reach the planes of the divine and demonic. It is a great, silvery sea, the same above and below, with swirling wisps of white and gray streaking among motes of light resembling distant stars. Erratic whirlpools of color flicker in midair like spinning coins. Occasional bits of solid matter can be found here, but most of the Astral Plane is an endless, open domain.

sharp owl
iron saffron
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Think of the Astral Plane like Dr. Strange doing his astral projection where his soul is out of his physical body.

jagged apex
sharp owl
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Or spelljammer

jagged apex
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at least to my knowledge last i checked, travel via the astral or even ethereal plane is done via thinking about your destination, the nature of the plane takes care of the rest usually

jagged apex
# sharp owl Or spelljammer

true, though if you ain't got a spelljammer or the coin to hire one to give you a lift, to my knowledge is a matter of thought

iron saffron
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Because neither planes are "physical" but rather meta-physical.

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I believe in AD&D the higher your Int the "faster" you can move in the Astral Plane.

jagged apex
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the astral plane having particular associations with the mind

quick badge
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Could you tell me a bit more about Strixhaven? I know it’s a magic school, but that is about it

jagged apex
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but historically the higher you intelligence, from what i am aware the easier it is for the astral plane's apex predators, the astral dreadnaughts, to spot you and gobble you up

jagged apex
sharp owl
quick badge
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Oh cool. What are the teachers like?

sharp owl
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It claims to be the premier arcane academy of the multiverse, but that's a questionable claim given that the vast majority of people can't travel between planes

jagged apex
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which at least in the dnd versions also have class levels, which adds more power over what they may have just from their natural power and age as dragons

sharp owl
jagged apex
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if you were talking about the dragons, they are not teachers, they largely are effectively near figures of myth as far as i understand it

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as for the teachers, depends which one, they are each indivduals

sharp owl
jagged apex
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(ah, the way they are tagged in dnd beyond made me think otherwise)

sharp owl
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  1. That's mechanical, rather than lore
  2. Tags don't equal class levels
jagged apex
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fair

sharp owl
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For example, Beledros Witherbloom, founder of the Witherbloom House, is associated with Black and Green coloured mana, which are the colours of

  • Black: Selfishness, desire, drive, determination, autonomy, death
  • Green: Life, growth, rampage, cycles, nature
    This places Beledros as a Druid in nature
jagged apex
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if i am not mistaken, doesn't the sourcebook describe the dragon's personalities too?

sharp owl
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Yes

feral lintel
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Ah, Strixhaven

jagged apex
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yeah, so if you are wanting to know more about the founders @quick badge , would recommend simply reading their entries in the sourcebook we got, else, maybe the mtg wiki, though not sure how regulated that is, so would take with a grain of salt

quick badge
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Thank

sharp owl
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It's very well curated, the FR wiki doesn't hold a monopoly on reliable wikis

jagged apex
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ah, was not trying to imply, is just not being much of an mtg fan and the fr wiki being cited and talked about far more often to my knowledge, simply made me uncertain of it, as not all wikis tend to be equal in such factors

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but thx for the confirmation that is rather reliable

unique bough
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for the god of war tempus, what do you think his priests would wear in a more Georgian era style of uniform (like militrary formals), it wouldn't be red (because of red wizards of thay) and probaly not blue (its more naval colour)

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as their uniform kind of contists more of armor but you know how traditions go i'd probaly be phased out and they'd have something more like militrary formals

iron saffron
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https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Church_of_Tempus#Dress

Priests' robes varied in color depending on rank, from brown and purple worn by lesser priests to red and amber worn by high priests. Yellow and white robes were only to be worn by the most esteemed of Tempus' priests. The robes of all priests were adorned in red trim, dyed with actual blood.

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Tempus' clergy typically wore the same armor they would don on the battlefield— often still stained with blood from battle. The quality of their armor depended on their rank. High-ranking Warlyon priests wore enchanted plate mail decorated with filigree, while battle-chaplain Arahars wore splint mail, and lesser priests wore simple chainmail. They always took care to never wear helms or headgear that covered their face however, that was considered profane emulation of Tempus' likeness.

unique bough
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ty

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ah so theres a bit of red but not much

steady verge
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Can someone explain to me what the Weave actually is? Its super important in my current campaign I’m writing and I think I have it wrong

unkempt merlin
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It's the name for raw magic in the forgotten realms.

steady verge
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Oh I thought it was the literal threads of the universe

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Like between dimensions is the Weave

unkempt merlin
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It's a name that is applied to the concept of raw magic in any setting as well, even if it's not called such in those settings

steady verge
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I ask because my next campaign will be acknowledging the gods and deities of my setting, they’re beings of pure, raw magic they are the literal embodiments of the Weave

sharp owl
swift rose
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has Jaezred Chaulssin been mentioned in any recent literature/media? kinda intrigued in using them in a game but not sure where they currently stand in the forgotten realms lore

jagged apex
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seems they have not really been touched on since 4e

swift rose
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hmm OK, definitely enough info to make them work at least. thanks!

narrow apex
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Is lore constantly changing or is it like frozen in time for individual campaigns to start from

sharp owl
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Depends on the setting

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For Forgotten Realms, it generally moves forward
For Eberron, it's always about 5 years after the end of the Last War
For Dragonlance, the plot did move forward but hasn't in a long whjile

worldly kite
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hey friends. Im working on a backstory for the setting of my campaign, and I was wondering, which DND deity would most likely be able to turn a viberant continent into a barren desert?

unkempt merlin
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If it's for a homebrew setting, any

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
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Which doesn't really matter for this channel overall, since it's for official lore

worldly kite
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The continent is set in the forgotten realms and I’d like to use that pantheon

iron saffron
worldly kite
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What if I wanted to use the pantheon without using Toril?

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What would my options be

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
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There are many pantheons, both in the FR and outside

worldly kite
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I see

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Thank y’all for the help

agile merlin
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Do elves consider the Seladrine (or at least some parts of it) to be their ancestors? Because it says that the first elves Corellon created went on to become the rest of the elven gods

tired granite
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I have a half-formed memory of a dragon that was cursed to take the form of an ancient, nearly crippled person, and after many years of living and suffering in this form, the curse would lift but only temporarily, so they could briefly taste the power and freedom of their true dragon form

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Now, is this recognisable to anyone?

iron saffron
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This channel deals with official D&D campaign setting lore.

magic jackal
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I believe they're asking about an official character they remember

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but I don't recognize this

tired granite
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Yes, I was hoping it was a DnD character

iron saffron
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Nope.

tired granite
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I thought it was in Fizban's, but was wrong

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This has been plaguing me

iron saffron
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Definitely not him.

jagged apex
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i know some dragons got forced into humanoid forms do to the spellplague for a time, but i forget their names, i just know historically it happened to at least a few dragons like maybe one or two

tired granite
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Thank you, I was hopeful for a moment as I have previously read through WDMM

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I will continue my search

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It feels like it's just the story of Fafnir in reverse

jagged apex
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to my knowledge, fafnir is norse mythology, and is not one of the things from norse that was adapted to dnd's version in published materials, granted i could be wrong

tired granite
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No matter, I appreciate the help

left lark
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i think this is a better channel to ask my question: my players are going to enter a town where everyone is secretly undead but appears normal (think pirates of the caribbean). is there an object/creature that could maintain an illusion like that in the lore?

iron saffron
left lark
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thanks!

steady verge
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Are like.. rock druids a thing? I don’t even know how to ask the question I’m trying to ask

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Are there a type of druid that interacts with stone and metal as opposed to the forests and grass

robust swallow
steady verge
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Rad. I need them for a region my players are about to explore

fathom wagon
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What is the Feywild/Shadowfell's equivalent to a dragon? As far as ancient/intelligent/powerful...just the various archfey?

formal sable
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Is anybody at all familiar with a graveyard near Phandalin? Any one will do,… would rather use one from cannon before I create one.

unkempt merlin
fathom wagon
unkempt merlin
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There are both Faerie Dragons and Moonstone Dragons, both live in the feywild

fathom wagon
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Well TIL! Much obliged

tardy wasp
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Are there any temples in or around Baldur’s Gate that would be capable of training a Selunite acolyte or Cleric?

jagged apex
jagged apex
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from what i can find the major city that selune is more associated with and has orders in is waterdeep

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they are noted as allying with the harpers who would maybe be the closest ones to offer such training, else it would presumably largely on the faithful's own to learn her ways

kindred carbon
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Was there ever an in-lore explanation as to why the Dwarven are so prejudice towards The Elves?

jagged apex
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they ain't

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else likely comes from them being well aware of the crown wars and the fact that most elves are likely decendants of mass murderers ie those who took part in those wars, as dwarves don't let a grudge go easily

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quote "Dwarven and elven relations were infamously volatile, their vastly disparate perspectives on the relationship between the individual and society resulting in countless misunderstandings and feuds. While dwarves subjugated the individual in favor of the group, elves did the opposite, and while both ways of life worked for their respective races, it made it hard for the two to agree on specific plans. Dwarves were both frustrated and amused by their apparent flightiness, lack of family focus, and irresponsibility of a race that, given their long lives and magic power, should be some of the most responsible of all. The emotional elves usually saw the naturally reserved dwarves as too dour, foolishly failing to express themselves and their opinions. Dwarves and elves were both basically good however, and so agreed on the most important issues; like squabbling siblings, they jumped to the others' defense against outside forces despite their threats, shouts, and insults" from 3.5e's "races of stone" and "races of the wild"

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at least that is where it is cited on the forgotten realms wiki

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is more accurate to say that while allies, they have a hard time getting along in a casual manner do to their cultures being so drastically different

kindred carbon
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I would reckon that the grudge might be mutual from the perspective of the Elves as well. What with mining being a huge part of Dwarven culture, The Elves would view an act such as harshly gouging the earth's minerals from it's crust as unjust and a crime against nature itself.

jagged apex
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so any issues at least according to public lore, baring rare exceptions, are not gunna be anything serious, less "you suck cuz of what you are" and more so debating over you were suppose to take a left or a right at the last crossway

jagged apex
iron saffron
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Elves and dwarves do trade with each other. Dwaves supply metal, especially mithral, while elves trade wood, wine, etc.

jagged apex
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their disagreements and arguments are largely just cultural differences and the misunderstandings that come from two people from drastically different cultures even when working together

kindred carbon
jagged apex
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you were likely thinking something more like tolken's relation between the two, and while dnd does take some inspiration from tolken stuff, it is not the baseline for things like behaviors

jagged apex
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ie they simply choose not to

unkempt merlin
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There are plenty of druids who lorewise use metal

kindred carbon
unkempt merlin
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Both the FR and other settings

kindred carbon
jagged apex
iron saffron
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Druids use metal weapons. 3E had other non-metallic materials used for armour that druids could use.

kindred carbon
iron saffron
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The druids not wearing metallic armour is a carry-over from 1E's druid.

jagged apex
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likely misconception born of often druids being depicted not using metal, save maybe weapons, as again, it is a matter or tradition, ie they choose not to, as oldman said, is really only a hard rule of what being a druid is in the much older editions

kindred carbon
jagged apex
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what is most likely is that most druids likely simply prefer to stick to these traditions and that is why you rarely see one in metal armor

jagged apex
unkempt merlin
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To quote Keith baker about the primary druidic cultures in eberron

The people of the fields haven’t abandoned the use of metal. With the exception of some extremist Ashbound, there’s no inherent taboo against metalworking; metal comes from the soil, after all. The Wardens of the Wood seek balance between the wild and civilization, not to eradication industry entirely. The goal is to reduce the environmental impact of industry; scope may be reduced, and primal magic may be employed in place of destructive mundane techniques. Primal magic can help locate objects, shape or mold earth and stone, and when it comes to smithing, anyone who’s fought a druid knows that primal magic can be used to heat metal. The Reaches aren’t primitive; they are a primal civilization, and the key is to consider what tools primal magic can offer.

fathom wagon
jagged apex
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in 5e two species of dragon are associated with the feywilds, faerie dragons and moonstone dragons, as for the shadowfell, that is where the shadow dragon transformation comes from and thus shadow dragons tend to be the one's you'd find in the shadowfell

mossy tapir
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what would happen to a magical creature like a fairy if it entered an anti-magic field?

modest badger
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Nothing.

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These two SAC's might give more answers:
Can you use dispel magic on the creations of a spell like animate dead or affect those creations with antimagic field?
Is the breath weapon of a dragon magical?

If you cast antimagic field, don armor of invulnerability, or use another feature of the game that protects against magical or nonmagical effects, you might ask yourself, “Will this protect me against a dragon’s breath?” The breath weapon of a typical dragon isn’t considered magical, so antimagic field won’t help you but armor of invulnerability will.

You might be thinking, “Dragons seem pretty magical to me.” And yes, they are extraordinary! Their description even says they’re magical. But our game makes a distinction between two types of magic:

  • the background magic that is part of the D&D multiverse’s physics and the physiology of many D&D creatures
  • the concentrated magical energy that is contained in a magic item or channeled to create a spell or other focused magical effect
    (...)
    Determining whether a game feature is magical is straightforward. Ask yourself these questions about the feature:
  • Is it a magic item?
  • Is it a spell? Or does it let you create the effects of a spell that’s mentioned in its description?
  • Is it a spell attack?
  • Is it fueled by the use of spell slots?
  • Does its description say it’s magical?
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Antimagic field only interfers with concentrated magical energy such as in a spell, item or so on:

Within the sphere, spells can't be cast, summoned creatures disappear, and even magic items become mundane
It does not interfere with the 'background' magic part of phsyics or physiology such as dragons or fairies being able to function.

agile merlin
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Yup, the magic of spells is basically only the surface of what magic really is, so spells that hamper magic can usually only affect other spells

jagged apex
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to block out all magic you'd literally have to isolate or destroy and entire cornerstone of the dnd multiverse, as magic is in dnd like concepts of time, gravity, and space are in the real world, it a core part of reality, anti-magic fields would largely prevent just spells from being cast, most magical items from being used or anything that is animated by magic such as a construct to my knowledge

agile merlin
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Speaking of, was the dragons' almost elemental connection to that force established before Fizban's?

jagged apex
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not that i can find, save for this regarding their hoards and how that amplifies their power "Dragons thrum with the magical energy that suffuses the Material Plane, and this energy is amplified by their possession of material things. In practical terms, this means dragons’ power is related to both age and the size of their hoards in ways that clever dragons—and would-be dragonslayers—can exploit."

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presuming that the prime material plane when it was made basically was made from the raw materials of the elemental planes, it seems possible some sort of residual connections may linger, after all portals and rifts to the elemental planes already appear on the prime where they are the most similar

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and going by the paragraph just before that one, seems more so the magic of the prime material plane itself, which by proxy includes the elemental planes it seems

agile merlin
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Thanks

rancid saddle
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Hi

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Can a human have sheep horns

iron saffron
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No.

unkempt merlin
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Closest you would be liable to get in most settings is a mostly human looking tiefling who just has horns

boreal acorn
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How could an Eldarin (as in the playable race that is the Feywild eleves that the 4 seasons thing) end up as an adventurer on the prime material plane, on Toril?

unkempt merlin
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Most likely due to simply being born there. Plenty of eladrin live on the material plane. Otherwise, a portal to the feywild, which are fairly common all things considered

boreal acorn
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Thanks

rancid saddle
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but well

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can humans have elf ears?

iron saffron
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No.

rancid saddle
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but irl human people can have elf ears

unkempt merlin
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By definition they wouldn't be elf ears

iron saffron
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D&D isn't real life.

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Humans have human ears.

rancid saddle
unkempt merlin
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They are either natural, and thus human, or literally surgical alterations

rancid saddle
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is body mod a thing in the forgoten realms?

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I like the idea of ppl trying to look like other dnd linages.

iron saffron
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Talk to your DM about that.

next sage
iron saffron
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Which is beyond the scope of this channel.

rancid saddle
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grym hollow is not oficial, a better place to ask would be #homebrew

gilded laurel
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FR-wise, are there many incidents where the illithids have come close to realizing the Grand Design?

jagged apex
gilded laurel
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Thanks!

wooden cipher
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Here's a conversation starter: So how about those Times of Trouble....

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The Great Rain during the second sundering lasted most of two years and flooded a large area near the Sea of Fallen Stars. This also caused a drought in the south lands. How bad do you think the drought was, and after the Second Sundering do you believe the lands of Luiren rose back into place?

brittle sage
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Guys in the lore how powerful was tharizdun ?

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Is he as strong as how asmdeus is compared to other arch devils if he is freed he can dominate the demon lords ?

iron saffron
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Asmodeus is a greater god.
Tharizdun is an intermediate god.

visual python
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Asmodeus is insanely powerful. his ruby rod is made with a piece of the shard of evil, the same thing that created the abyss and sparked the origin of all demons.

modest badger
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Tharizdun/ EEG tends to be as strong as what ever that edition /story wants him to be. Notably he's not really meant to ever reach full power.
In one Gord the Rogue Novel (Greyhawk, written by Gygax after being kicked out of TSR) Tharizdun was powerful enough to destroy all of Oerth.
In 1e EEG was supposed to be a threat enough to kill Lolth, although that was never properly expanded upon due to writing changes.

In 4e Tharizdun was responsible for corrupting the elemental chaos that created the abyss and Jubilex, so on.

I feel like for Tharizdun/ EEG, they're always 'Threat Level' and so is as dangerous as needs to be to drive tension, but also is always 'chained so never at full power'.

jagged apex
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so far as i am aware he is always a multiversal threat in dnd, minimum

jagged apex
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if anything comparing him to asmodeus is arguably downplaying the threat tharzidun poses in the lore

brittle sage
jagged apex
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Ao has 0 authority and power outside of realmspace ie the forgotten realms setting

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and tharzidune is originally from greyhawk from what i recall

brittle sage
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I see thx

tardy wasp
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How does Eberron fit into the larger DnD multiverse? It seems so different from everything else, especially in terms of its cosmology. Yet, I see it advertised as being part of the new Vecna adventure, so it apparently fits in somewhere.

Also, if I can ask a meta question, how long has DnD been explicitly multiversal? Was Eberron even conceived as being part of the same cosmos as FR or Dragonlance?

feral lintel
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Eberron has been around since... 3.5e?

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And has been a multiverse since AD&D

iron saffron
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Apparently Eberron's multiverse is within the Deep Ethereal

wooden cipher
sharp owl
jagged apex
jagged apex
wooden cipher
sharp owl
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Outside realmspace, the wildspace region that Forgotten Realms takes place in

jagged apex
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he is the Overgod of Realmspace, thus his jurisdiction is realmspace

wooden cipher
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His Jurisdiction Is in All things, during the Times of Troubles he rewrote the portfolios of the gods as they were fored upon Faerun.

jagged apex
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you are misremembering some key details

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and again those were gods specifically in realmspace

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it had 0 effect on any other setting or part in the mutliverse

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part of the reason he could do nothing to stop the spellplague is cuz it's origin was outside of realmspace technically

wooden cipher
jagged apex
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never said it was not

sharp owl
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No one is saying it's not

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But Ao has no authority over, for example, Krynnspace (Dragonlance) or Greyspace (Greyhawk)

jagged apex
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gods by their nature in dnd are capable with at least 1 devout enough follower, existing across multiple settings

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these powers are what historically are called multispherical powers

wooden cipher
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So If he has ultimate power over the Faerunian pantheon as noted in reworking the portfolios of the gods, there is no other in this that is greater. BUT there is "something beyond" even Ao - this I see as the Adama.

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There are no other gods that are greater within Realmspace

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But yet, even Ao couldn't locate the Tablets when stolen by Myrkal and Bhall - he just got angry.

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The primordials existed prior to Ao?

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to say Ao is all powerful and stop there, is factually incorrect, his influence is limited within realmspace, and thus for certain reason gods like bahamut were not effected by the time of troubles, as he and his sister/rival tiamat are multispherical as far as the published lore is concerned, especially these days when retelling those past events to established them as having happened still in the current continuity, usually to build off of something or refference a history

sharp owl
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Okay? Not sure what that has to do with deities as their power relates across the multiverse?

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sharp owl
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I don't think you're grasping the original message you replied to

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sharp owl
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And no, not just WotC lore is accounted for in this channel, but no one has been exclusively using WotC lore

wooden cipher
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Thank you @jagged apex @sharp owl great conversation, I wish you well and look forward to learning more from you later!

sharp owl
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Uh, okay

jagged apex
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snarky lol .... For next time - How do you see the Adama fitting in with the multiverse/realmspace/gods and primordials?

jagged apex
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odds are it was more so the guilty party acknowledging and admitting to their wrong

sharp owl
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That wasn't snark, that was confusion

jagged apex
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idk what the adama even is

sharp owl
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it's a belief system localised to part of Toril

wooden cipher
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That's one of the coolest parts left off in recent Wotc years

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I got to go, really cool

sharp owl
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As far as it related to spelljamming/the multiverse, about as much as any other faction does (aka not very much at all)