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jagged apex
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huh, must have been the lighting of the artwork

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still, there are examples of purple tieflings in the forgotten realms even if technically mostly certain versions, the bloodlines thing definitely makes nearly any color of teifling possible, especially since demons alone make up one chunck of the kind of beings they can be connected to and technically the ones we know of in the lore are not even a fraction of the demons that exist, just cuz of the nature of the abyss

unkempt merlin
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(Didnt mention it earlier but) its funny cause her bronze color... still isn't really a red or human tone

feral lintel
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Fairly sure humans can have bronze skin tones

unkempt merlin
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Not in the way her skin is

proud granite
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What realms do tortles come from?

jagged apex
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but bronze for a human and bronze bronze are different even for fantastical races

unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Hello I have a question

iron saffron
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Is it related to an official D&D campaign setting?

proud granite
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I don't remember them in Krynn, or Faerun. Doesn't seem to match Ravenloft.

eager bay
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I know Kenku can't say words they haven't heard before but are they capable of understanding the meaning of what they say? Like if they hear tree, do they understand it can be an elm or oak tree

unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Assuming they've seen both.

jagged apex
iron saffron
unkempt merlin
proud granite
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What region of Faerun? I was looking for origins of the tortles

eager bay
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I thought it was that they had no imagination

unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Like that was the curse.

unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Thus their ability to extrapolate is almost nil

jagged apex
eager bay
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Unless it's for a topic they're familiar with

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
eager bay
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Well, the older members pass their information down to the younger ones

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I'd imagine

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And so on.

jagged apex
eager bay
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Thanks

proud granite
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Thank you

eager bay
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What is wing magic?

jagged apex
eager bay
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So what does the curse do

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Besides remove their ability to fly

unkempt merlin
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Be a pain because it was ill defined and new for the edition

feral lintel
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Nothing mechanically, but they were stripped of creativity and their voice

jagged apex
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wing magic is not a thing, at least to my knowledge

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but has nothing to do with kenku

eager bay
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The page linked mentions wing magic

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For kenku

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It says wing mages

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Some kenku dedicated themselves to the path of assassin.[3] The kenku assassin combined the warrior's martial art and the wing mage's feathers, together with a poisoned blade

jagged apex
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wing mage does not = wing magic

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it easily could just be a term, like how paladin is a term

eager bay
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Fair enough

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Either way what is it

jagged apex
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assuming you have access to that book

iron saffron
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I do!

jagged apex
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i can't find anything on the term wing mage, but if i had to guess it may be just the term the kenku have for their mages since they largely use air magic according to the wiki, or could have have something to do with their winged counterparts from past editions https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Kenku_(winged)

modest badger
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Yeah 'Kenku Wing Mage' was a 4e statblock, along with Kenku Warrior, Kenku Ruffian, Kenku Sneak so on:

The Kenku Wing Mage uses air magic and glowing feathers of force to harm and hamper foes.

jagged apex
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so yeah is just their term for their mages more or less

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or i guess more accurately a title

hidden current
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how does one become a gods chosen?

iron saffron
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Which setting?

hidden current
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faerun FR

iron saffron
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The individual god decides.

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Usually the Chosen are epic level characters but a few times they're "low level"

hidden current
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and I know being chosen means a power boost but does it come with agelessness as well or no?

feral lintel
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That depends on the god

hidden current
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ok just wondered

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
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And then there is Volo

hidden current
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is hlondeth still ruled by yuan ti? havent heard much about that town since 1300'sDR

smoky dust
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Yeah, I guess that answers my question.

I had previously checked that wiki, and was thinking there might be more than what it presented.

jagged apex
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you'd have to dig up some of the older edition books if you want details on the abilities awarded a chosen for any established gods in forgotten realms

sand sentinel
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Anyone know anything about the fiend patron

unkempt merlin
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Many things can function as a fiend patron

sand sentinel
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Oh really

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I just thought it was some guy

unkempt merlin
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None of the patrons are just one thing

sand sentinel
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What are they then?

unkempt merlin
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Various beings and entities and the like

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Each patron option lists examples

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For example, a Fiend patron

Fiends powerful enough to forge a pact include demon lords such as Demogorgon, Orcus, Fraz'Urb-luu, and Baphomet; archdevils such as Asmodeus, Dispater, Mephistopheles, and Belial; pit fiends and balors that are especially mighty; and ultroloths and other lords of the yugoloths.

sand sentinel
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Ok let me look on the app

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It didn’t show a list or anything

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Thank you a lot

jagged apex
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this is also why the abilities are often broad in terms of theme rather than anything the powers might be if they were to be from a certain individual, though there are cases where one could argue there is some overlap, such a Dagon, he reasonably could have warlocks both of the fiend and fathomless pacts

thorny rock
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This is probably against the rules, but can people cut off ruidium effected body parts?

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Also, has anyone actually tried it?

jagged apex
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a good reminder is rules and lore don't really mean much in relation to one another, rules reflect the lore in the mechanics of the game, ie lore is priority if viewing lore and rules in a sort of pecking order

unkempt merlin
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Once a new physical sign appears, it can't be removed from the creature until its ruidium corruption is ended.

pure knoll
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Are sandals part of the standard githyanki armor?

hard pagoda
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Combat sandals.

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I feel like I need to look into this.

spark haven
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Uniform is an important component of a lot of military outfits throughout history. It might be part of doctrine

pure knoll
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True

dull vessel
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are all hags evil?

iron saffron
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No.

feral lintel
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By nature they typically are. There might be some exceptions

cinder folio
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"Evil was at the core of what defined hags, an inextricable part of their identity."

I'm always down for an exception, but that'd need to be pretty singular.

calm crest
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Based on hags like Baba Yaga, there are many which are evil on paper, but more enigmatic in practice.

versed hare
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Evil can still be mysterious

shell pawn
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So of the monsters that were originally people, which one would be the hardest to reverse/save the victims? Like trying to save the people that make up a gibbering Mouther?

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Mind Flayer creations like Intellect devours totally transform a person too

spark haven
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I think you've nailed it. There's a variety of transformations that destroy the body and soul and those people could only be reconstituted by, at best Wish/Reincarnation level magic

magic jackal
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True Resurrection is not usually powerful enough to bring back someone who has been subject to something that destroyed their soul

shell gale
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So apparently Mirt the Merciless from ||SJA ||is human? Every single time I've played, the DM has made them a giff...I even almost referenced it in my DC. Thankfully I removed it from the final copy to remove bloat

hard pagoda
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Mirt might be one of the very first Forgotten Realms characters Ed ever wrote about - I'm sure he started Mirt when he was a kid. Here's what SJA says about him:

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Human Adventurer (Retired) and Head of Spelljammer Academy

Mirt was a loudmouthed rogue with a reputation as an adventurer and philanderer. The Old Wolf rose to serve as one of the Masked Lords of Waterdeep and became a close advisor to Laeral Silverhand, the Open Lord of Waterdeep. The extensive wealth he squirreled away as a politician ultimately forced him to flee the city and seek refuge far to the south. Mirt enjoys the finer things in life but remains stout of heart and quick with a sword.

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He's in Waterdeep: Dungeon of the Mad Mage while still serving as a Masked Lord. There, he's known as "Mirt the Moneylender"

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I'd have to consult the old books - but if I recall correctly, he originally got rich surviving Undermountain in the same party as Durnan - the owner/bartender of the Yawning Portal. Apparently, they used their riches in different ways with Durnan buying the bar and Mirt going political - which, according to SJA, bit him in the butt and he had to find a change of scenery and founded the academy. For a human, he's been around a looooonnnngggg time.

jagged apex
hard pagoda
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to be fair, as far as humans go, he's quite Giff shaped, but yeah, always a human from what I can tell

iron saffron
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Mirt is human and should have died long time ago. He was introduced back in 2E, which is around 120 years between 2E and 5E of the FR timeline, but WotC handwaved some bullshit excuse for him to to still be alive now (not that different with Volo).

hard pagoda
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Or Durnan, or Elminster, etc

iron saffron
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At least the Chosen of Mystra have a good reason for being long lived

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Durnan is over 200 years old... and not a wizard or a Chosen.

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WotC is creatively lazy keeping 2E era NPCs alive. The problem stemmed from the fact they decided to skip 100 years between 3E and 4E.

hard pagoda
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Yeah, but running a bar forever prevents aging, right? I kid, but I'm fine with the handwaving. People living a long time is very far down the list of believability in the Realms, in D&D, etc.

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I like Durnan always being there.

iron saffron
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At least make those three a Chosen to give an in-game lore reason for being alive still instead of "Oh, they were stuck inside a magic handaxes for the past century"

hard pagoda
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It's like an old episode of Cheers. Needs Sam.

iron saffron
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Or even better yet, create new memorable NPCs...

hard pagoda
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Damnit, you just made me picture Durnan as the big bad in a Waterdeep campaign. It made way, way too much sense and now I have to write it up. Even the Mirt stuff with him running away from Waterdeep jives. Undead or Far Realms, maybe Fey are my other choices, but there's already enough there that it doesn't have to matter. Damnit. Durnan was a good guy and I'mma gonna have to do him wrong.

jagged apex
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apparently he got caught in a blue flame item for a period of time and that is why he is still alive

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and his meeting with laeral silverhand is rather humorous

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at least the way ed greenwood describes it in said video

slow river
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sorry, im looking for a cannonical character to be my patron and have some restrictions. would this be the place to ask

hard pagoda
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I think so. What kind of restrictions?

slow river
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would make sense for a druid esque group to look up to, be of the higher planes, and be powerful enough to be a celestial patron

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is it only unicorn that fits these criteria?

hard pagoda
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Nah. Look up "Guardinals"

slow river
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are Guardinals in 5e?

jagged apex
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yes

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they were reintroduced along side the 5e planescape materials

hard pagoda
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I had Talisid and the Five Companions or Gwynharwyf in mind

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Gwyn is Court of Stars stuff which would also work

wet flower
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Would old English be called Old common in the DND universe?

hard pagoda
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Sure, that works. Why not?

wet flower
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Just asking for a debate about Withers.

slow river
jagged apex
jagged apex
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example, common is still common even if you are playing with german players who's primary language is german

iron saffron
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Common is a trade language. It's not a true language.

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Don't equivlate it to a real world language.

jagged apex
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it is a in universe means of communication between races on a world that is basically just a set of words they all generally agree apon to mean certain things out of the sake of convenience, especially in business and trade

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is closer to say druidic or thieves cant than to a traditional language

slow river
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common is kinda like the lingua franca

shell pawn
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Is asking a question about ||Jander Sunstar|| spoiler territory? I was reading his wiki article

feral lintel
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I think so

shell pawn
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Darn.

feral lintel
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He appears in an adventure, thats why

shell pawn
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Ah I see

iron saffron
shell pawn
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I think my question is before that. But I'll still ask there ty

iron saffron
shell pawn
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Yeah it's in regards to the Journey to Barovia part

iron saffron
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There's a section in his wiki on that.

shell pawn
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Ik, I mean that's the portion my question pertains to. Asked it in adventuer spoilers

cursive condor
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Hey I feel like I'll get a better answer here than google

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is there an existing statblock for a wyrm? (dragon but no wings)

unkempt merlin
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Not really a lore question

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But wingless dragons do exist

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They aren't called wyrms though

cursive condor
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what are they called?

unkempt merlin
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Drakes generally

cursive condor
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everything would be so much simpler if FR's writers just followed the objectively correct naming scheme...

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thanks for the lead

unkempt merlin
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There is no objectively correct naming scheme. People across fantasy writing use the same term for various different depictions of dragons. And it's not just the FR.

hidden current
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what would happen if a cleric tried to get favors from multiple gods? i ask because i saw the plot for the upcoming fallbacks novel and noticed one of the characters was " a cleric who refuses to tie himself to a single deity when he can trade favors with them all."

unkempt merlin
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Depends on the setting

hidden current
unkempt merlin
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The concept of a pantheonic cleric exists. It's even in the DMG

tawny osprey
jagged apex
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landwyrms

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they have do exist, but only in 3e in terms of published materials, you'd have to homebrew or convert if wanting to use them currently in any other editions of dnd

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if wanting a close 5e creature, though not natural and much smaller, there are drakes

jagged apex
cursive condor
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drakes and landwyrms, yeah, I don't think Dungeon Dad has done those yet lol
thanks! worse comes to worse I'll chop off the wings of a Red Dragon Greatwyrm xD

jagged apex
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seems a bit extreme in terms of power, but your game, you do what you want, we are just trying to point out what the published lore has to say if anything on the topic

cursive condor
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mhm, I did know they were in the lore, but I only knew them as the more popular term of "wyrm" I appreciate all the pointers!

jagged apex
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has 0 connection to what you are thinking

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wyrm is a term for dragon in languages such as dragon and is part of the naming of some of the most powerful and thus oldest life stages of a true dragon's life cycle

iron saffron
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https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon#Wyrm

The term "wyrm" was used to mean "dragon", but might also refer to a dragon within specific age criteria; see dragon aging. "Wyrm" was believed to have originated from Jotun, the ancient language of the giants.[5] The words "wyrm" and "worm" were pronounced similarly. Great care should be taken to avoid this as "worm" was the most insulting thing that one could call a dragon

jagged apex
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is potentially why some species of dragon simply contain the term

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as they even if not true dragons are still dragons

modest badger
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Oh, my bad, I read 'Dungeon Dad' as 'Dungeons And Dragons' automatically.

leaden field
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Are elfs fey descendants?

humble jungle
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sometimes they're the descendents of people who were lost in the feywild for ages, sometimes they're the descendents of changelings or fae-human children, etc. etc.

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but there's virtually always a fae connotation

tired granite
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in the core DnD / Forgotten Realms setting, High Elves have strong links to the Feywild and often have settlements/cities close to Fey crossings

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while Eladrin are the elves who remained in the Feywild and adapted to its magic

jagged apex
# leaden field Are elfs fey descendants?

in short yes, thus the reason that mechanically they have the fey ancestry trait, in the lore of forgotten realms and some other published settings the first elves, which all others later descended from were born out of the divine blood shed by Corellon in his battles against the god Gruumsh. in the 5e continuity though a god, Corellon is more fey like as he is basically a fey god of sorts, though in some settings such as eberron, dragonlance, and dark sun have different origins, this is often still the case but the origins are different they are still descended from fey in some way
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Elf#Creation
https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Elf#History
https://dragonlance.fandom.com/wiki/Elf
https://greyhawk.fandom.com/wiki/Elf#General_Description
https://darksun.fandom.com/wiki/Elf
in dark sun i don't know if they are or not but i can't find anything that might clear it up, so while it is normally the case they are fey descendant it technically depends on the setting but in more recent years once creature types were introduced to my knowledge they have consistently been descendant from fey in some way

leaden field
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Can one become a archfey? Or dose thy has to be born from the divine bloodline?

sharp owl
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You can totally become an archfey

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If an individual spends enough time in the feywild, they can become increasingly fey in their own nature

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If they're powerful enough, they can seize a domain

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One such example is Tasha, aka Iggwilv the Witch Queen, adopted daughter of Baba Yaga

jagged apex
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basically being fey or fey like and having either enough power or otherwise establish a position of preeminence among fey-kind seemingly is the only real requirement, if any, though iggwilv technically rules her how domain of delight, it is still technically part of the feywild and she still canonically considered an archfey, so it could also be worth looking into domains of delight which are a exclusive to the 5e continuity currently far as i know

eager bay
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Hey folks! a weirdly specific question but is anyone here well-versed in the Rime of the Frostmaiden lore? I'm in a group for it right now, and decided it would be fun to create a little spinoff side campaign that runs on weeks we don't play. Only trouble is, our DM loves the idea and insists that it should be canon! So I need a bunch of relevant info to make sure that everything lines up, but I need to get it without spoiling myself on the rest of the campaign :P

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(should i thread this is that allowed?)

sharp owl
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  1. No threads
  2. You should ask your lore question rather than asking if it's okay to ask a lore question in the lore channel dndLol
eager bay
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i dont have permission to post there

sharp owl
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It's a forum, you need to pick the right thread

valid patrol
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just curious, is this focused on the lore in pre-made campaigns? The lore of DND the game itself? Or something else?

unkempt merlin
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Settings namely

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It's in the channel description

sharp owl
valid patrol
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Great! As for a question, why are there many different versions instead of just one constantly changed rule book?

iron saffron
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That's not a lore question...

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That question is about gameplay mechanics which has nothing to do with lore.

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Taps channel's sign:

Discuss WotC-published game settings, and the events and characters that shaped them. Wherever possible, please indicate which setting you're discussing: [Forgotten Realms]/[FR], [Eberron], [Dragonlance], etc.

valid patrol
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Okay I may need to learn what exactly is the lore of all this lore. Got a simpler version of what’s listed?

iron saffron
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There is no simpler version. D&D has been around for 50 years and has several official campaign setting, each with its own lore.

valid patrol
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What is a campaign setting?

iron saffron
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This is why when people ask about lore we ask in return, "Which setting?"

iron saffron
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This channel isn't really to help new players about the basics of D&D.

valid patrol
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It’s meant to provide precise answers for very specific questions. Alright got it

loud totem
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Do dolphins still have a language in the 5e version of the Forgotten Realms setting?

sharp owl
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No, they don't

grim siren
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It would probably be more accurate to say we don't know. It's not specifically called out in 5th edition, but there's nothing stating that they've lost the ability to speak.

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If I recall correctly there isn't anything

sharp owl
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For reference, you can find their stat block here: Dolpin

loud totem
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That's odd. In the Forgotten Realms wiki, it lists "dolphin language" under General Information the 5e tab.

sharp owl
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Their stat block says they don't have a language

grim siren
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I feel like that's getting into a game mechanics versus lore thing.

So I'm going to dip from this conversation.

sharp owl
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Browsing all 5th edition mentions of dolphins, I can't find anything suggesting they can speak

modest badger
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The wiki may have decided that since nothing says they do not have a language, older lore that has them speak their own language still applies. Which would not be a decision I agree with, as many creatures had individual 'species' language before that are no longer included for multiple editions.
You can also see they gave no citation for it in the 5e block, and on the Dolphin Language page none of the sources are past 2000- so all AD&D.

jagged apex
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it technically is not a language in the traditional sense, and given it's specifics it likely was not considered worth reestablishing it as a proper language in dnd 5e or even a sort of pseudo language such as common, thieves cant, or druidic

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so is kind of old lore that is minor but can easily enough be used in your games, is just not what modern editions define as a language, is worth remembering is the forgotten realms wiki consolidates information on the forgotten realms setting from across it's timeline and thus across multiple editions

leaden field
jagged apex
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a domain of delight is basically the opposite of the domains of dread which in 5e are a section of the shadowfell

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they were introduced in the wild beyond the witchlight and also have a supplement detailing the concept and adding some extra statblocks and info

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it is not a domain like those of gods and clerics

sharp owl
serene crater
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quick question, but does Bhaal have ways to corrupt/influence mortals into worshipping him or is it people like murderers just find others who currently follow him

sharp owl
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For example, the archfey Yarnspinner has a domain of delight called Fablerise, which is actually within a larger domain of Prismeer

jagged apex
serene crater
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I didn't even know they had a page section for something like that, thanks

jagged apex
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basically anyone that does violence or ritualistic murder, or even murder in general, is likely to pray to him for help in said murder or something relating to slaughter

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there are plenty of murderers, assassins, ect... that he does not necessarily need to corrupt, but in recent years he has been known to make/sire bhaalspawn who he more or less seem to act as both chosen and or heads of his cults depending on the continuity
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Bhaalspawn
the majority of things involving him and especially his spawn tend to be a trend in plots in the baldur's gate series of games, but they are still canon to the general lore of dnd, just not focused on enough to were you regularly see or hear mention of them or get them stated out in adventures nessissarily

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honestly like any cult or faith a charismatic enough leader of the faith is all you tend to need for the general masses

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if for bhaal this happens to be a bhaalspawn, then it more so would be what that individual may do, rather than bhaal doing it directly, in 5e his portfolio is either simplified or more confined to murder, which seems to be just fine by him, as like any god he can with great ease do things that are in relation to the things in his portfolio and sense places in the worlds he has influence on as a god, and even gains some power from each act that is done and falls in line with it

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granted this amount of power is not as much as proper worship as i recall, but there are enough people that are either desperate, crazy, or violent enough for him to lure them in with the typical things gods may promise their worshipers, especially in certain cities, like baldur's gate, even outside of the games, is a pretty big hub or criminals, murderers included, last i checked

pure knoll
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Does Mystra control only arcane magic or does she control divine magic too?

jagged apex
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consistently it is simply "magic" in her portfolio, so seems up for interpretation

pure knoll
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Makes sense

feral lintel
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Is there anything about why Sardior dissapeared?

leaden field
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can druids pray to the fey gods then? other then silvanus?

unkempt merlin
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Druids don't have to pray to any gods

feral lintel
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They can, but its not required or anything

unkempt merlin
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Even if they often worship gods of nature (of which there are many more than sylvanus, even in the FR)

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A druid could worship an archfey

feral lintel
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Or even a nature-oriented fiend (or just a fiend pretending to be a nature spirit)

leaden field
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no im aware, im just saying at a standpoint of if they had a god could it be an archfey or is it just silvanus?

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oh i see thank you!

jagged apex
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is theroized by sages that his concessness survives in the minds of every gem dragon across the multiverse, and the thanes of those species of gem dragons are hoping to absorb enough of their echoes of themselves that they can revive/restore him somehow

jagged apex
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in older editions though where he is mentioned, to my knowledge he never disappeared, simply kept to himself, much like many gem dragons themselves do

feral lintel
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Ah ic ic. Thanks Scarlet!

woven crag
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Question about the feywild:

If a child who wanders into the feywild spends like 10 years there would they age during that time or just when returning to the material plane

unkempt merlin
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Time passes in the feywild

sharp owl
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Depends on the fickle whims of the archfey into whose domain they wander

unkempt merlin
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There is just (sometimes) a distortion when passing between the feywild and material

sharp owl
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Archfey control the very nature of their domains, so you could spend 10 year there and not age a day, or age normally. Or age rapidly, or get turned into a fox and hunted for sport

unkempt merlin
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With that distortion usually being caused by the domain ruler yea

jagged apex
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time in the feywild is more or less subjective or at least malleable, dependent on the desires of the archfey that rules that territory

woven crag
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Ok 👍

leaden field
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are there any fortune telling like being or gods?

ionic rivet
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D&D settings typically have some form of pantheon (deities) although there are some where deities may or may not exist.

modest badger
jagged apex
severe storm
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Are there any fey connections in Chult? Any like just random hook for a fairy from there?

tired granite
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not much that I can see beyond that

severe storm
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Those are perfect, thank you

jagged apex
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basically fairies despite being so new, in theory could reasonably be found anywhere where you can find a fey crossroad

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or maybe it is fey crossings, is what is used in chapter two of the current 5e dmg quite "Fey crossings are places of mystery and beauty on the Material Plane that have a near-perfect mirror in the Feywild, creating a portal where the two planes touch. A traveler passes through a fey crossing by entering a clearing, wading into a pool, stepping into a circle of mushrooms, or crawling under the trunk of a tree. To the traveler, it seems like he or she has simply walked into the Feywild with a step. To an observer, the traveler is there one moment and gone the next.

Like other portals between planes, most fey crossings open infrequently. A crossing might open only during a full moon, on the dawn of a particular day, or for someone carrying a certain type of item. A fey crossing can be closed permanently if the land on either side is dramatically altered — for example, if a castle is built over the clearing on the Material Plane."

shrewd bobcat
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Is there any Demons/Devils that are sort of in the domain of technology/science?

feral lintel
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Kinda? I know they have Infernal Machines

jagged apex
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on the side of devils, to my knowledge there is no singular devil who is associated with it, as many devils seem to be involved with the creation and uses of infernal war machines and similar tech

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though baphomet's sciences are largely towards creating new creatures, mostly demons by his own design, the goristro being one example of such a creature

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if i had to guess, if any one of the archdevils were to have such influence, at least in regards to their implementation in the blood war, i'd imagine zariel is a likely candidate, given her flying fortresses and what not she is known to have commissioned

feral lintel
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Bel might be who she commissioned. Or at least made most of the designs

jagged apex
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so yeah if not Zariel, Bel seems like the most likely archdevil, at least that i am aware of in published lore

feral lintel
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(He isnt an Archdevil anymore because of Zariel)

jagged apex
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is kind of a wonky term, archdevils technically are not only those who rule over a layer of hell

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but if wanting to get into semantics i guess archduke is more accurate potentially, either way i am sure you knew what i ment

feral lintel
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Well, i know hes a pit fiend

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Yeah, I just thought Archdevil referred to the leader of each Layer

jagged apex
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so technically he is not a pit fiend, rather resembles one

feral lintel
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Ah ic. I just remember reading thst he got demoted because Asmodeus had some kinda plan

jagged apex
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well he basically got demoted for being inadequate for the job in asmodeus' eyes, may have something to do with how he avoided or was just bad at the political aspects of the job as mentioned in the activities section of his wiki page and here too https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Bel#Fallen

tired granite
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Asmodeus always has a plan

quaint grotto
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Whilst Werewolves are like men who transport into wolves, in DND is there, akin to gnolls and orcs, wolf like beasts?

modest badger
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Lycanthropy can affect any humanoid (And sometimes even giants) in D&D, so you can get werewolf orcs, gnolls, gnomes so on. There are also werehyenas.

tired granite
quaint grotto
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Yea.

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Ones that dont turn

tired granite
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so nothing to do with werewolves then?

modest badger
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So asking more about different 'beast folk'? Like cat people, or such?

quaint grotto
tired granite
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Worgs, Winter Wolves, Crag Cats are all Monstrosities - unnatural creatures that resemble beasts

sharp owl
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There are various anthropomorphic species in D&D; tabaxi (cat-like), tortle (turtle/tortoise-like), gnoll (hyena-like), aaracokra (bird-like), kenku (crow-like)

tired granite
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Shifters too, if we're talking about people with animal-like traits

sharp owl
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They did specify ones that don't turn

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Shifters, by their very nature (and name) transform/turn

modest badger
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Orcs normally wouldn't be on any list relating to them, so there is a bit of confusion there too. Might help to try and explain in more detail what you want

quaint grotto
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So in like WOW for example, Worgen are a type of wolf like species that are born that way, are similar in appearance, but more humanoid too. Same way the dragonborn are lizardmen, wolfmen basically.

modest badger
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Lizardfolk are 'lizard men' where as dragonborn are more draconic humanoids.

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But if wanting anthropomorphic animal people, Davyd's listed some.

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Not really any 'wolffolk' though in D&D.

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I think the closest is Lupin from Basic D&D's Mystara setting

quaint grotto
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Thanks!

copper inlet
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hello question does Selûne have kids like Dame Aylin

sharp owl
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No, it seems that's a character unique to BG3

obsidian gate
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its not uncommon for gods to have children but I dont know if there are more examples for selune specifically

jagged apex
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worghest basically being the result of a goblin and a barghest

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also most orcs you see these days tend to not resemble pigs that closely, as there are multiple kinds of orcs and they also change designs a bit depending on the edition, like in 5e on toril the most common kind of orc are known as mountain orcs

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but historically the term you would have been looking for would be "monstrous humanoids" if anything as that is what at least on the forgotten realms wiki races such as gnolls and orcs, especially in past editions, are categorized under

jagged apex
# copper inlet hello question does Selûne have kids like Dame Aylin

to my knowledge Dame Aylin is the only such example and has only appeared in bg3, so for now as far as we know she is specific to that continuity, in the forgotten realms the only or at least main god known to have sired children at all like dame aylin, even though technically a bit more like demigods, is mystra, who have the surname of Silverhand unless going by an alias, and historically double as some of her chosen https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Chosen_of_Mystra

stable gulch
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which dragons are the lightning ones

sterile breach
stable gulch
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Ah thank you

jagged apex
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blue dragons, bronze dragons, and potentialy some others that have not been adapted to 5e, but those are the two major ones

half tulip
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Bronze also.

stable gulch
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which would you say are more rare/magic attuned

jagged apex
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neither is more so than the other

stable gulch
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makes enough sense

jagged apex
stable gulch
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oh i see thank you ill look

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the gray dragon was the one i was looking for apparently

jagged apex
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odd, as they are not known for any sort of element or if they are it is acid

stable gulch
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they have an affinity for stone it seemed, i have a character i need paralysed by a dragon

jagged apex
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ok, well, remember, dragons are just as capable of learning magic as any other intelligent creature, and even are known historiclly to have spells exclusive to their kind

stable gulch
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oh really? That helps a bunch

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ty

jagged apex
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plus there are others means of paralysing one's targets, such as poisons

stable gulch
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Well in the story i was crafting, he lands the final blow and the dragons blood trickles down his sword, paralyzing him for generations

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Poison would make alot of sense i can imagine

jagged apex
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and certain gases like that of the secondary breath weapon of a silver dragon

stable gulch
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Ill look and see what that one does

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oh thats nice

jagged apex
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dragons in 5e also became more or less super charged in terms of the elemental energies in their body, so i could easily see this potentially happening from a conflict with such a dragon, known in 5e as greatwyrms

stable gulch
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Im glad im not shooting into the dark anymore

jagged apex
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honestly some of the suggestions of what can happen on a dragon's death in fizban's might be worth you looking over

stable gulch
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Ill look into it then

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oh thats perfect

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tysm

stable gulch
# jagged apex honestly some of the suggestions of what can happen on a dragon's death in fizba...

"Vengeance From Nearby Dragons and Gods
News of dragon slayers in the region could cause a stir among other dragons. The party's motives may be unclear or be miscommunicated, so much so that all dragons in the region could suddenly fear for their lives—and seek to strike first. A deity such as Takhisis who was worshipped for ages by a dragon may curse the party for striking down one of their followers."
think this would work for what im going for, accurasy wise?

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😅 also apologies for the paragraph

jagged apex
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not really the channel to pitch the narratives you are working on, was just helping with the lore aspects you seemed to be asking about

stable gulch
fringe terrace
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I got the Ghosts of Saltmarsh book recently, and I wanna learn more about the Greyhawk setting before it run any official content in said setting. Particularly in regards to various playable races and how they're regarded/presented in the Greyhawk setting as my players like to play a wide array of races from various books, and I wanna be sure they're getting the appropriate experience as said races in that setting.

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So are there any consistent and reliable sources for info about the broader Greyhawk setting outside of the Saltmarsh book?

jagged apex
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else most of the lore for greyhawk to my knowledge is gunna be in past editions and may be hard to find

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as for a while the published materials have largely focused on the forgotten realms setting more often than not, let alone the greyhawk setting, especially in 5e

hidden current
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aside from the arcane brotherhood, thay, and cult of the dragon are there any other groups that allow, support, and/or encourage the practice of necromancy?

jagged apex
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certain churches of certain gods

hidden current
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ok so stick to the more evil groups if i want to be lich down the line got it

jagged apex
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eh, not really, but they would likely not repress such research, to my knowledge most liches are not nessissarily aligned with either of those groups and are just powerful independently powerful mortal casters that sought immortality and sometimes godhood via undeath

hidden current
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I dont think mortals are alowed to become gods in that way anymore

jagged apex
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eh, depends on the setting, and has not stopped many wizards from trying

cosmic narwhal
jagged apex
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not really

hidden current
jagged apex
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the dead 3 are the ones that caused events that lead to the restructure of how one can and can't become a god in realmspace, at least from what i recall

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besides, vecna is not native to realmspace, and had become a god before making a presence on toril, though he likely keeps secretive of it as is his nature, so he would still be a god even if he was to loose all worship in realmspace

jagged apex
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by their logic, becoming a lich would be akin to a wizard becoming their truest self

hidden current
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with that in mind they should be willing to help an initiate pursue lichdom right?

jagged apex
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heck, they are even lead by one, named "Factol Skall"

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if anything they would do anything but discourage it

hidden current
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yep that lich is billions of years old

jagged apex
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worst case senario, you die and become can manifest on a plane that matches your alignement in 100 years and then you are not bound by the same limits of a mortal or an undead in the traditional sense to my knowledge

hidden current
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honestly not sure why skall didnt become a god like vecna did considering how old he is

fossil venture
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Inspired by a recent reddit post... do inanimate objects True Polymorphed into people have souls?

jagged apex
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seems it simply is not a desire of his

hidden current
jagged apex
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as to quote the 5e planescape lore on him briefly from the book "The founder of the Heralds of Dust, Skall has yet to transcend his current existence, lingering to guide as many souls as possible along the path to True Death. Skall strives to know everything and feel nothing. He makes generous use of adventurers to gather knowledge or help lay the dead to rest with dignity." this at least to my knowledge is his lore and thus motive for the 5e continuity, not sure if in the past he may have tried it

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and in theory as long as mortals still live, there is regularly gunna be new information of some kind coming into existence

slow river
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do unicorns exist in fearun?

jagged apex
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you mean faerun? yes

slow river
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yes, sorry

jagged apex
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they exist in most settings to my knowledge, but definitely in faerun, does not mean you are likely to see one though

slow river
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is it known if their horns shed or anything?

jagged apex
jagged apex
slow river
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just trying to figure out an in lore reason a unicorn would give me magic

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much appreciated

jagged apex
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but not worth it if you value your life, as in the forgotten realms and thus faerun, followers of Mielikki and Lurue are known to quote "willing to punish slayers of unicorns with death"

jagged apex
slow river
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would a unicorn give the chupped tip of their horn that was broken off by someone capturing them as a token of appreciation from someone who freed them?

hidden current
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this may be more of a question for rules rather than lore but are necromancers allowed to have undead as familiars?

jagged apex
jagged apex
slow river
jagged apex
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could have it something to do with some kind and pure hearted act of good in relation to the faiths of one of those gods, as not every faithful of a god necessarily become a cleric

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though one orignization mentioned in the lore video i linked, sounds like it could be an idea you could use with some tweaking

jagged apex
cerulean scarab
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Is there a lore reason as to why Barbarians dont use heavy armor?

jagged apex
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like you don't see a bear putting on a suit of heavy armor before mauling someone

iron saffron
cerulean scarab
# iron saffron It's a gameplay mechanic not lore.

No I mean I know that gameplay wise they dont use heavy armor but I wanna know the lore reason as to "why", like how Wizards/Sorcerers dont use metal armors because Iron in the Steel prevents them from casting spells etc

iron saffron
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It's a gameplay mechanic. There's no lore reason.

humble jungle
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there's totally a lore reason

humble jungle
iron saffron
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It's a gameplay mechanic first and foremost.

humble jungle
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barbarians are meant to embody undergeared but terrifying warriors, fashioned after nordic raiders

iron saffron
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Barbarians aren't forbidden as a class to wear armour.

unkempt merlin
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the theme the class is built around =/= a lore reason

humble jungle
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who didn't have plate armor- thus, Barbarians don't get to wear heavy armor

unkempt merlin
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the only reason they don't have it is because of the theme. its 100% not based in lore

humble jungle
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yeah, that's a good way to put it

iron saffron
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Barbarians can wear heavy armour but then they won't benefit from their class features.

humble jungle
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I assumed that the question was about theme, and not lore, which is unfounded

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if you want a tongue-in-cheek answer, it's because barbarian fighting involves getting your opponent's sword lodged in your nonvital organs to disarm your opponent, and it's hard to do that in heavy armor

iron saffron
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That's still not lore.

jagged apex
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closest thing i could find lore wise at least in the forgotten realms is here

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otherwise yeah it is more mechanics than anything

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"Because most of them were untrained in the use of heavy armor, barbarians trained themselves to take incredible amounts of punishment that could easily fell less sturdy warriors. Additionally, most barbarians were capable of moving much more quickly while wearing half plate or lighter armor, by a factor of between thirty and forty percent. Another boon to barbarians' feral and exposed style of attack was their aptitude for quickly following up one attack with another immediately thereafter, overwhelming their enemies until they were able to deal fatal blow. This, along with their instinctive sense for danger, which made them nigh impossible to flank effectively or put off guard, made barbarians far more formidable than their lightly armored appearance would suppose." cited as being from the current 5e phb, which while largely mechanics, does also sometimes give some lore tidbits

iron saffron
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That's just the wiki explaining the barbarian class abilities gameplay mechanics rather than actual lore.

jagged apex
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well it is information that is cited and seems debatably lore, take it as you will, otherwise, yeah as i said it is more so mechanical, but the possible lore reason, IF THERE IS ANY, is what i could find, otherwise i can't find it and don't know it

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you more or less can deduce either from what i could find or from the mechanics, the lore reason is they don't know how to fight in heavy armor effectively, otherwise is more mechanical than lore based

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now, i have a lore question that hopefully can be answered with less arguing or heat, historically are dragonborn and tieflings biologically compatible? and if so, do either of those races breed true?

iron saffron
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Tieflings have been around since 2E (not playable) while dragonborn has only been around since 4E.

jagged apex
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i know that

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i am not asking about how long either has been around

iron saffron
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Their mutual "existence" only occurred in 4E. "Biologically compatible" is something you have to ask your DM since tieflings were almost always of human descent until MotM.

feral lintel
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Tieflings and aasimar are just plane-touched or extra planar bless humans right?

iron saffron
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They were classified as "planetouched" in 3E.

jagged apex
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i guess more so are there any biological incompatibilities or issues, like how dwarves have a hard time reproducing with none dwarves or how certain races such as elves and orcs just don't mix

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and it is not for any game nessissarily, i am wondering just conceptually in the terms of what is known in the published lore

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and am not wanting to assume as i know in some published lore tieflings and dragonborn opposing empires

iron saffron
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Again, very limited due to the dragonborn appearing in 4E and 5E having very limited official lore.

jagged apex
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ok, so i guess the main thing to make sure is, are their established to breed true

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ie their child will always be one of the 2 races or the other?

iron saffron
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That said, true dragons can breed with pretty much anything (hence, the half-dragon creature template).

feral lintel
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Yeap

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Beasts, monstrosities, humanoids, and giants can be half dragons iirc

jagged apex
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am also partially uncertain given certain details of the nsfw kind that you can see in bg3 when making a dragonborn character, which honestly is what makes me wonder if they would even be biologically compatible, and i know that bg3 is technically it's own continuity but to my knowledge dragonborn anatomy isn't exactly detailed anywhere else

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at least to my knowledge

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but again so far seems the only remaining possible lore question is if either race is known to breed true, more so on the tiefling side as they likely have the higher chance of that sort of info being established since they had been around longer

iron saffron
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BG3 takes a lot of liberties for the game...

feral lintel
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I thought it was mostly mechanically, not lorewise

jagged apex
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?

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how?

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or do you mean the liberties oldman mentioned?

iron saffron
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I haven't played the game but people here have already mentioned things that aren't "canon" outside of BG3 (which frankly are spoilers...)

jagged apex
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sorry to hear

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so, is it stated in any published materials if either Tieflings or Dragonborn breed true?

unkempt merlin
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That question doesn't make sense?

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Both tiefling and dragonborn breed true

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You were asking if crosses between them breed true, which is an entirely different question

jagged apex
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well i did not know if either breed true, let alone both, but for some reason nobody seemed to wanna give me an answer until now

unkempt merlin
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I'm very confused as to why you thought dragonborn don't

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They have their whole clan and lineage structures

jagged apex
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as i was basically asking if the two races could have children together and if either or both breed true

unkempt merlin
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Tiefling I can at least somewhat understand where the question comes from. But two tieflings have a child that child is a tiefling.

jagged apex
unkempt merlin
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Again you are conflating multiple questions

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And/or using the wrong terms

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Asking if dragonborn breed true is asking if dragonborn who have a child with another dragonborn have a dragonborn child

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Same with tieflings

jagged apex
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no i am wanting to know if a tiefling and a dragonborn could sire a child together, and if so would that child be a mix of the two races or would they be one or other other

unkempt merlin
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What you want to ask seemingly is if a cross between a dragonborn and tiefling child is considered a dragonborn or a tiefling or something else entirely and if the latter, will its children also be something else entirely

unkempt merlin
jagged apex
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cuz i did not know if that for example a tiefling + anything = tiefling, or if dragonborn + anything = dragonborn

unkempt merlin
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Which is still irrelevant to where the poorly phrased question comes in

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"Breed true" has 0 interaction with crosses

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Breed true means X + X = X

jagged apex
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i am sorry, i thought i was wording it well enough, am sorry it did not convey what i thought it was

unkempt merlin
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Not X + Y = X

jagged apex
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to my knowledge breed true ment that any child born from a creature and a different creature would always be the first creature

unkempt merlin
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That is not what that means

jagged apex
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ok, well, now i know

unkempt merlin
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And regardless you were given an answer. There is (to the knowledge here at least), no information on a tiefling dragonborn cross. Especially with how tiefling are planetouched in a capacity of not just being based on humans anymore leading to the possibility of a tiefling descended from dragonborn that involves no interaction with a separate tiefling lineage

jagged apex
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ok, sorry my questions came off more confusing than i thought they'd be, but thank you for answering and explaining/clearing up a few things for me

glacial jacinth
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Is there a good site/source I can read lore that is reliably accurate?

feral lintel
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The wiki

glacial jacinth
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I have mixed feelings about fandom wiki because of other fandoms.

feral lintel
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This one is reliable

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We often use it here

glacial jacinth
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Nice

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Thanks

magic jackal
wet flower
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Why did Zariel go bald?

sharp owl
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It was part of her transformation from a celestial into a fiend

rancid saddle
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Hi

rancid saddle
rancid saddle
sharp owl
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It wasn't necessary to ping me for that comment

rancid saddle
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Sorry

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I did it whiouth thinking

sharp owl
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Also it's far from a 'great price' compared to other individuals who are become fiends

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Most souls become lemures

rancid saddle
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It was a joke

sharp owl
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Okay, well maybe keep things on topic

modest badger
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In part it might be because that's what she thinks people expect to see:

Devils that represent themselves to mortals are likely to adopt an appearance (including an apparent gender) that conforms with what those mortals believe to be true. Gender (and the assumptions that mortals make about it) is just another tool for devils to use to get what they want.
MToF p.15, Devils and Gender

But in likely hood it's probably a 'Bald of Evil' trope

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There's no real lore reason behind it, so much as it being an artistic design choice to represent her dramatic transformation.

sharp owl
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I mean, there's also the fact that her transformation comes at a moment where she pivots away from a performative roll as a force for good to a more practical one. She gives up the restrictions imposed by Mount Celestia not to intervene in the Blood War and decides "no, we're supposed to fight evil so let's fight evil". This pivot from performative to practical is kinda reflected in the change of her appearance from a blindfolded angelic figure with flowing hair to a much more utilitarian character with a shaven/bald head

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There is a cultural association, at least in the western world, between going to war and shaving ones head, so I feel like that's maybe being reflected here. But I think maybe I'm deviating from lore into more general character/narrative design stuff

tired granite
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still, great answers

fathom rapids
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If a mage comes across cursed lore or fails a ritual or whatever else, what determines whether they turn into a Nothic or an Allip?

sharp owl
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Nothics are mages specifically cursed by Vecna who curses the knowledge as part of his role as god of secrets

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All other cursed knowledge generally produces allips

jagged apex
jagged apex
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honestly given her two designs that can get a bit wonky when trying to think about that, so you are likely correct that it is not a lore reason, but i could not help but notice that she allied with thay and in their society, last i checked at least, those of high status, mainly mages would have shaved heads

jagged apex
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though in 5e, at least as of monsters of the multiverse, it seems slightly changed but still rooted in such cursed knowledge and driving them to insanity

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and from what i have heard, some creatures such as boneclaws in past editions were the results of certain failed rituals, so likely depends on the edition at least in part

rancid saddle
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In 5e

hidden current
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since the path of graves in the mortuary is connected to "places of death across the multiverse" would that mean a portal there might lead to one of the tombs or mausoleums in loudwater?

jagged apex
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seems logical enough, honestly it vauge to where it is thematic but still up to interpretation and can apply to multiple places

jagged apex
jagged apex
hidden current
jagged apex
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oh, that explains it, i don't have access to that, though careful as that could potentially be an adventurer spoiler, or the answer to it could be

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since is from an adventure it may also be more so a question for your dm

jagged apex
upbeat forum
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If you sign a contract with a devil, does that contract always include that the devil gets your soul? And is it truly impossible to get out of such a contract?

iron saffron
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https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Infernal_contract#Ending_Contracts

Infernal contracts could be voided so long as both parties agreed. Under these circumstances, the devil and the contractee each continued on with their existences as if the contract never existed to begin with. Devils often requested significant compensation before agreeing to nullify an infernal contract. Compensation for nullification often included endowment of great personal wealth, one or more soul coins, or extremely powerful artifacts.

humble jungle
spark haven
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An extremely powerful or influential mortal might be able to sign a deal that doesn't involve their soul, but souls are like, the thing that devils are incentivized to collect

iron saffron
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Souls are currency in the Lower Planes (see Soin Coins).

solemn nacelle
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hey out of curiosity, im trying to make a werebear npc who has mastered their lycanthropy, is there an official way in lore i can do that as the players discover his backstory?

iron saffron
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Perhaps ask in #character-discussion. This channel deals with official campaign settings' lore not PC backstories.

solemn nacelle
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oh no no, im the dm, this is an npc for the campaign im running. I want to know if theres a way in lore i can make this werebear master their lycanthropy, my players love figuring out the backstories to my npcs so i wanted to know if I had to make something up or if their is a canon way a lycanthrope can master their lycanthropy for it

unkempt merlin
solemn nacelle
unkempt merlin
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thats just a matter of embracing the curse, which any lycanthrope can do

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With time and experience, they learn to master their shapechanging ability and can assume beast form or hybrid form at will. Most lycanthropes that embrace their bestial natures succumb to bloodlust, becoming evil, opportunistic creatures that prey on the weak.

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depending on the original alignment of the creature, a werebear isn't even necessarily changing their alignment when they embrace the curse

solemn nacelle
unkempt merlin
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theoretically

leaden field
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what fairy courts are there?

unkempt merlin
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What setting

jagged apex
jagged apex
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they are categorized on the forgotten realms wiki as fey pantheons, so if you ment like actual courts, to my knowledge there are not any

jagged apex
solemn nacelle
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thx

jagged apex
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honestly the 5e monster manual details it and the case for each of the core kinds of lycanthropes, it largely is a case by case basis, both because of the kind of lycanthrope they are and the individual

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embracing it more or less involves choosing to act in line with that alignment and the instincts that come with it

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but is worth remembering alignment is not cut and dry, there is some neuance to each alignment, which the forgotten realms wiki tends to give multiple examples for each one, so using that combined with the lore for the specific kind of lycanthrope, should give you everything you'd need to know lore wise of how such a person would act if they managed to embrace the condition and over time master their abilities

solemn nacelle
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i see i see, thank you

jagged apex
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and personally if you needed more info, i'd recommend checking lore videos by the likes of AJ Pickett who tend to be very reliable and include lore from multiple editions that might otherwise be harder to find for some that only recently got into dnd and really only got 5e materials, as older edition books tend to be harder to come by in any form if you don't already have them, especially the older they are

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as some of the more brutal details sometimes are not carried over in the more recent lore text, but is technically just as valid so long as none of the new lore contradicts it, before even simply going into what you wish to use and not use as dm

upbeat forum
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I want to give my player‘s characters in-game some information about ugundenk. One information I want to give them is that ugundenk is a demon lord and lives on another plane but could eventually somehow tunnel to their plane. The problem is, how should any NPC even know that? Would it be possible that some NPC once got some dreams about it (like those in Lovecraft’s Call of Cthulhu) that made them lose their mind and sign an infernal contract just to get more information about it, then barely managing to write that stuff down before killing themself out of insanity?

jagged apex
jagged apex
hard pagoda
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Wizards man. They summon things that tell them things. Same with Clerics as they pray and get guidance on matters of importance. Warlocks, et al, can have contacts from even stranger places that can comment on the Abyss... There are options.

jagged apex
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there is no reason i can think of that any devil would even entertain the notion of informing a mortal to the existence of ugundenk, if they even know of him, since he does not really take part in the bloodwar

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else they might see it when him erupting from the ground and consuming a large building, dude is so massive is kind of hard to miss if you are in the same part of the world as where he emurges

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heck, if said npc is a wizard who read about ugudenk, easily could have gone mad just by knowing that a horrific being like him even exists and could erupt from the earth/ground at any time

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like maybe they found a copy of the demonomicon of iggwilv in the libraries of candlekeep or something or some archmage who studies demons and thus would know of such work and things

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rewatching AJ's lore video on him now and apparently he has been involved in the blood war, but still can't think of any reason a devil would give someone the info to know of someone like ugundenk, they got enough trouble with mortal mages summoning demons and devils alike as is

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@upbeat forum hopefully that was at least somewhat helpful

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and is less should, and more so how could, but neither that dream thing or an infernal contract, far as i can tell would not make any sence, especially for ugundenk

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plus never even heard of any demons lords in dnd, obyrith or tanari, doing that call of cthulhu thing you mentioned

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and as for the players gaining access to it, could have the loon raving about it like a mad man with it written down as some deranged idea of the end times or the coming of what they believe to be some dark god like being, in their pocket or something

silent atlas
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Does Faerûn have any historical figures simular to king Arthur

hard pagoda
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Cormyr comes close to Camelot at times, IIRC

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King Azoun I guess then

silent atlas
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Any character abit more ancient

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Like is there any lore on the realms before the first sundering

hard pagoda
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Sure. The first Sundering was -17,600 DR and there's plenty of history before that. Unsure if there's a King Arthur figure. Likely there is, but I'm unsure of whom fits the bill.

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Especially if you're after a human

silent atlas
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Is all pre first sundering just lore or was there actual modules taking place then at some point?

hard pagoda
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1st Edition had some Forgotten Realms - it was set in 1357 DR.

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2nd in 1358...

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There still might be modules I'm unaware of

feral lintel
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Definitely no 5e ones

silent atlas
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Isnt 5th around the 1500 or 1600s

hard pagoda
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~1489

silent atlas
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Ah

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Is there any cononical lore about orcus when he was a human?

hard pagoda
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No, I don't think so. Just evil when human then he died and then he really did the cool stuff. Inspiring really

silent atlas
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Even more inspiring is depending on what story you give his human fot he could potentially be the greatest bbeg in all dnd

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Probably why they glossed over his human years in the lore so the DM's could play with it and make a truly evil villain

feral lintel
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Sometimes pure evil is what you need.

silent atlas
silent atlas
orchid ocean
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I know ubtao is a primordial, but in terms of divine power would he be an intermediate power or a greater power?
I have a character like him in my own world, and he rules over something similar.
I know the other primordials that survived like Kossuth and the other Elemental primordials are Greater God level powerful

silent atlas
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I was always under the impression that primordials were gods that came before gods where ties to warshipers therefore can not be scaled the same do to the lack of bureacracy

silent atlas
orchid ocean
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I'd say their different Work with the same level of bureaucracy but the elemental lords are all divine rank 18

feral lintel
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Ao is 21+ iirc

orchid ocean
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Yup. Their isn't even a diety in the feyrun pantheon that's above 19

magic jackal
orchid ocean
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And theirs only a few that are and that's because their gods of a dominant race or chauntea

iron saffron
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Chauntea is divine rank 19

orchid ocean
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Yeah. And so is the head if the gnomish, Dwarven and elvish pantheon. It takes millions of people or a dominant race on the planet to get that high

iron saffron
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I'll have to look at my copy of 3.5E Deities & Demigods for any divine rank 20 deities

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Yeah, all of the heads of major pantheons are divine rank 19.

orchid ocean
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Yup

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Although isn't nothing known about that God?

jagged apex
jagged apex
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also ubtao is one of those cases of a being who is both a primordial and a god, as are figures like Asgorath, Kossuth, and Akadi

sand solstice
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What’s the lore with aasimars? Aren’t they like half-angel or something?

sharp owl
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Have you read their description?

sand solstice
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Can’t find it, what book are they in?

upbeat forum
tired granite
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Volo's Guide and Mordenkainen Presents provide game stats and some relevant info

sand solstice
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Ok thank you, this helped a lot

restive summit
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How do you pronounce Athas?

iron saffron
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I pronounce it "A-thus" (the "a" like in "apple")

sharp owl
forest rock
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Half-ass with a silent H

serene crater
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quick question, I'm not sure if this is a lore related question but it ties into something I mentioned back in general, as when I was looking into some lore for Falkovnia as one of my PC's had ties, they mentioned about Vlad Draknov and I looked into it. But when I checked the 5e Ravenloft book, I noticed the lore changed drastically, even with the domains dark lord and I wanted to ask what was up with the changes. Nothing wrong of course but it does create a little bit of confusion for me

crude blaze
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My guess is the reason was simply that they wanted to go in a different direction

unkempt merlin
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Her lore is from what I can tell, effectively the same as his

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Not to mention her name is basically the same as his

crude blaze
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iirc the most they really did was just water down the violence of the lore to make it a bit more presentable for younger players

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I don’t really think there’s a lot of fundamental change to it, they just trimmed out a lot of the violent details

jagged apex
obsidian gate
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5e ravenloft rewrote falkovnia and gender swapped vlad

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Id say its up to you or your player if you want to use the old or the new lore

jagged apex
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my guess is they thought it was redundant to have ravenloft and strahd, and then have another domain with a guy who is modeled off the mortal man that often is associated so heavily with dracula, with often strahd being summarized or described by some over the years as dnd's equivalent to dracula, but that is less lore wise, plus seems unfair to call her a gender swapped version, as seems Vlad Draknov had many kids, could be that in the 5e continuity they did not even get sucked into the domains of dread until he passed and presumably Vladeska took charge and making the mercenary company her own, else it is just a as like do to a different continuity and in this timeline/continuity, Vlad Draknov may not have even existed or could just be a case of similar names and themes being reused and repurposed as from what i can find the world of her birth is never stated or named

sullen zenith
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Hey, I have a character in Descent into Avernus who's currently trapped in the Nine Hells due to making a deal with Baalzebul a long time ago to free him from the Nine Hells the first time (He was born in the hells). To escape that arch devils deal I'm thinking of trying to pray to some God, is there anyone who might be specifically forgiving or offering of redemption?

jagged apex
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the reused names likely being used to nod to those familiar with the past incarnation

jagged apex
crude blaze
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Yeah, gods rarely get involved in the deals between mortals and devils from what I can tell

jagged apex
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plus if he was born in the hells, he is not a mortal and would be effectively as bound there as the devils themselves

sullen zenith
jagged apex
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Baalzebul would not even have that power or interest in making such a deal to my knowledge

sullen zenith
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Really as an Archdevil? Dang. Well my dm did clear this as a backstory so it's just a change for the world i suppose

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my problem is less that and more just trying to find a way to get out of servitude

jagged apex
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even asmodeus might not have that power, but if anyone he'd be the only being in all of hell potentially able to grant such a thing, but that is IF any of them even could

crude blaze
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Archdevils are still devils. Super strong ones, but they still have their limits.

jagged apex
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your problem seems to be not understanding the function of the planes and specifically hell and the stuff that goes with it

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souls are massively important and they are constantly fighting in the bloodwar against the infinite number of demons, once a mortal soul is in hell, there is 0 reason for any devil in their right mind to let that soul go

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again even if they could simply reincarnate souls

sullen zenith
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ah

jagged apex
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far as i know is only certain kinds of gods would reasonably be able to do such a thing, such as gods of life, death, and or renewal, but divine law prevents them from just wisking away or otherwise denying hell the souls it lures in or that otherwise wind up there naturally

sullen zenith
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there's no reason at all a devil would want someone in the material plane as a servant?

iron saffron
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Mortal souls are currency to fiends.

sullen zenith
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but it's like giving away 1 dollar when you have millions to billions

jagged apex
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there is, just no reason to go throught the near impossible task of reincarnating a soul vs striking a deal or tempting an already living mortal

obsidian gate
jagged apex
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the souls are more than just currency

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they are power, status, soldiers, ect...

iron saffron
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Yes, mortal souls can be used to create new fiends.

jagged apex
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power infernal machines, make weapons in the case of demons at least, but i imagine devils could do something similar in theory

iron saffron
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A level 1 PC's soul isn't worth as much as a vile villain's.

jagged apex
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but if they can get their soul, they almost certainly would take it, but definitely can't think of any reason one would even consider giving up a mortal soul

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and even if they did, that soul would still be effectively an extra planar being, as bound to the planes as any other, they can't easily go to the mortal world ie prime material plane of their own will

sullen zenith
jagged apex
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not to mention they would be influenced by the nature of the plane, becoming more lawful evil over time and effectively become a devil themselves, especially if born there, there is no mortal soul to do anything with

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devils willingly serve their superiors, even if they plot and scheme against them as the system they work under and in as lawful beings is most beneficial for them

jagged apex
sullen zenith
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mkay, thanks for the info!

jagged apex
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i suggest researching or looking over the lore again as again the issue you have seems to be you based it off a flawed understanding of hell, souls, ect...

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plus seems more likely he'd torture a soul than consider giving said soul up in any way

grim siren
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If I recall correctly, as long as the parents are mortals, if a child is born in a plane, especially like hell, they're still a mortal.

If it was a pair of humans visiting the bronze fortress or two mortal soldiers in the blood war.

Nothing like that is ideal. Neither does it Preclude them from being born a mortal in the hells.

jagged apex
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well so far everything else they have shared seems to be indicate otherwise, but then there is still the problem of if Baalzebul would even be willing to give up someone in their service if they don't absolutely have to

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plus such a promise is likely a lie, as he is seemingly the one devil in all the hells that will actually even bother to lie, as to my knowledge most other devils will not even bother trying to lie, far more likely to omit details of truth or use complex and confusing legal wording

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heck, such a promise was likely told to them to motivate them to do what ever it was he wanted them to do for him at the time, at least if he were behaving in line with how his personality is described in established lore

grim siren
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I can most certainly see him. Be willing to work and you know give false hope to such a character. With it all. Being a lie in the end.

Getting them to actually help you would be very difficult, and if you want to behave in line with the established narrative, they would have to do either do something that enhances his own perfection or brings him closer to his goal of recovering his previous form. But even then there's nothing really stopping him from betraying you in the last moment.

It could be done. But Not by 99.9% of PCs.

jagged apex
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honestly even if he did, likely would "give" them something like ||zariel did karlach||, but in his case likely could will you back to his layer of hell at any time, obviously lying that it would allow them to leave the hells, basically probably a magical item that would be bound to them and that Baalzebul could will it to planeshift the person at his own desire and just timing it to send them to the mortal plane when he tries to do it himself, making him think he is in control, as i imagine an archdevil could rather easily, at least compared to a mortal, get their hands on an "Amulet of the Planes" or something similar and modify it's enchantments/magics

sullen zenith
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Well you guys basically got the reason why he's back in the hells in the first place kinda? He was let out because that was the deal, but taken back to be used as a soldier in the blood war

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Baalzebul lost nothing in the transaction and gained whatever power was given to him by my PC

slow river
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Are there any Forge domain gods who have a relationship with unicorns?

feral lintel
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... I dont recall any more nature oriented forge gods

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The idea seems contradictory

slow river
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Yeah. that's sad

feral lintel
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Best I got is a sea goddess from 2e. Persana?

iron saffron
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That's really grasping at straws.

feral lintel
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Yea

iron saffron
feral lintel
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Shes listed under the forge domain in the wiki

iron saffron
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Where?

feral lintel
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Shes there for some reason

unkempt merlin
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Officially I don't know about forge+unicorn specifically. But plenty of fire associated gods can have the forge and nature domains

jagged apex
iron saffron
feral lintel
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Yeap. This is confusing me

unkempt merlin
iron saffron
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Well, it's a wiki. Someone added him to the forge domain for some reason.

slow river
feral lintel
slow river
unkempt merlin
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Huh. Just realized Goibhniu probably isn't that far of a stretch for links to unicorns. Albeit that's just a Celtic god.

slow river
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Are Celtic gods a thing in Faerun? Not too sure about pantheons tbh

feral lintel
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The Norse, Greek, and Egyptian arent big in Faerun

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Except for Tyr or Baldur

slow river
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So they exist, just not with a lot of worshipers?

feral lintel
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Tyr has a lot.

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And yeah, they exist. Just not really much prescence in Faerun yeah. Not a lot of worhippers

iron saffron
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They're interloper gods.

jagged apex
slow river
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I'll never understand the wiki because how is a god of smithing not part of the forge domain lol

sullen zenith
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That's unreasonable lol

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If they're a god of smithing id say its reasonable to just use them

modest badger
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The wiki uses what domains have been officially associated with gods. Whether it's domains, or portfolios or so on.

iron saffron
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Domains wasn't introduced until 3E, I believe, so entries for deities that only appeared in 1E/2E only had their portfolios listed.

unkempt merlin
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Gods needn't only have domains officially listed either. Plenty of (5e) PHB gods have domains that came later in the edition (such as with Grave)

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Not to mention that a clerics domains needn't match that of their gods either

slow river
unkempt merlin
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I wouldn't be saying it if it weren't

crude blaze
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Even the gods in the PHB have “suggested domains”

leaden field
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what is shar's and raven queen's relationship like?

jagged apex
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they are not allies in any sense of the word

halcyon sentinel
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Is the demogorgon the demon lord of chaos/discord?

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Or are they just the “prince of demons”

iron saffron
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Prince of Demons

jagged apex
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look at his titles, that should give you some idea

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and to my knowledge at least he is also basically inseverally linked to the very concept of fear, likely something to do with being quote "The first tanar'ri, formed from mortals' ancient fears"

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but being the prince of demons is his most important and known title

shrewd bobcat
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Is there any lore regarding the Drow's preferred Musical Instrument?

jagged apex
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not to my knowledge, more often than not mention of song is made rather than anything in the way of musical instruments, least from what i can find and am aware of

shrewd bobcat
halcyon sentinel
jagged apex
thorny rock
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Y'all know any scientific groups in Exandria?

crude blaze
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Not that I know of. The closest thing I can think of are less scientific and more esoteric/arcane groups

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Exandria tends to lean more into arcane magic/arcanotech than flatout science

sharp owl
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Depends what you mean by 'scientific'
If you mean 'groups that research the fundemental properties and forces of the natural world', there are various arcane and academic organisations such as the Cerberus Assembly, Library of the Cobalt Soul, and the Soltrice Academy

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But if you mean science as in the study of real world properties such as physics, chemistry, biology etc, nothing like that exists in Exandria

thorny rock
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All I'm aware of is the allegiance of allsight

sharp owl
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It's more things like studying the arcane, alchemy, etc

crude blaze
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Physics are typically overshadowed in any world where magic exists and interacts so freely with its inhabitants

thorny rock
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I'm tryna find one for the arcane, or wildlife

sharp owl
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alone?

thorny rock
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Sorry, typo

crude blaze
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Well as mentioned, there are plenty of groups that study the arcane

sharp owl
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The Library of the Cobalt Soul gathers knowledge across a vast swath of subjects

crude blaze
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There’s another group that premiered in their latest campaign as well, but idk if that would be a #critical-role-spoilers

sharp owl
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It would

crude blaze
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That’s what I assumed. Best to play it safe

distant perch
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Is there a place in DND lore that resembles Siberia? Secluded, snowy, harsh environment. The people who live there are very weathered and tough?

unkempt merlin
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Many settings have such places

iron saffron
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Which setting?

crude blaze
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As far as the Forgotten Realms setting goes, that sounds a lot like Icewind Dale. But that’s only a single region in a single setting among many settings.

distant perch
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Ok, so obviously im new to DND. So when you say many setting have such places, what do you mean? Does anyone have a few names of these places from different settings?

crude blaze
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D&D doesn’t take place in a single fantasy setting is what we mean

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Generally, the best way to engage with this channel is to know what setting you’re playing in

iron saffron
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Again, you need to ask us a specific setting if you want a specific answer.

jagged apex
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icewind dale being the most iconic/popular city/town in that part of the world

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not sure what dragonlance and darksun, two other popular published settings, have if they even have any such locations

sharp owl
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Given Athas is a lifeless, scorched desert plane, I don't think it has a Siberia equivilent

jagged apex
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makes sense

distant perch
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I see what yall are saying. I wasn't aware that there were multiple "settings". I thought it was like World of Warcraft where you can be in "Icewind Dale" but travel by boat to Barovia or something.

forest rock
iron saffron
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It's a dale...

jagged apex
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world of warcraft is more comparable to a singular setting than to the entire dnd cosmos

sharp owl
distant perch
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Gotcha. It's all slowly starting to make more sense. Yeah makes sense now.

jagged apex
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happy to help

iron saffron
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Toril is one of the planets (3rd one from the sun) in Realmspace. There are several campaign settings in Realmspace: Forgotten Realms (on the continent of Faerun), Maztica, Kara-tur, and Al-Qadim, plus Spelljammer, Ravenloft, and Planescape.

So a PC in Faerun could travel to other campaign settings — Maztica, Kara-tur, and Al-Qadim take place on other continents while the others are in outer space, a demiplane in a deep corner of the Shadowfell, and the Outer Planes, respectively.

jagged apex
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in the case of realmspace, several of those settings just happen to exist on the same planet, but this is not always the case

distant perch
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Ok good to know. I will do more research then on lore, so i can have a baseline knowledge to create things.

jagged apex
iron saffron
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This is why we typically ask people to specify which setting because there are a lot of official campaign settings throughout the 50 year history of D&D.

jagged apex
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near the bottom it has a section where you can click on the continents and it will take you to the corrosponding page for that one, some of them being the settings mentioned above by oldman

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though some such as kara-tur from what i have been told by some were not initially part of toril but retroactively at one point or another was rolled into being a part of toril that just we don't often focus on, especially now a days

grim siren
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Kara-Tur Actually predates the publications of Faerun and Abeir-toril.

It was first released as a stand-alone campaign setting but was later combined by TSR, Inc. with the Forgotten Realms campaign setting, being placed on the planet Toril, lying east of Faerûn.

In fact, the first known mention of the Forgotten Realms in a sourcebook is in 1987's Ochimo: The Spirit Warrior (OA3 TSR9195), with a book, Cormyr: The Forest Country, being found on an island off the coast of Shou Lung.

This was published three months before the Forgotten Realms Campaign Set later in 1987. In 1988, TSR released a boxed set with two books detailing the campaign setting and maps, Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms. This completed the link to the Forgotten Realms.

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H1-H3 set in the bloodstonelands were retroactively placed in the realms following the release of the boxed set for the realms and it got official realms branding with the release of H4 The Throne of Bloodstone in 1988

shrewd bobcat
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Strange question that I'm not sure how to ask,
but is any God in any setting that is considered good but uses harsh and cruel punishment?
Like Corporal Punishment

jagged apex
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else i am not aware of anything close to or in the same vain as what you are asking about

shrewd bobcat
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What kind of God would favor Conquest or Vengeance Paladins?

jagged apex
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gods of such things, but paladins are more rooted especially in more recent editions in their conviction and their cause/code than any god

shrewd bobcat
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I mispoke. I mean, Good Gods.

jagged apex
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does not change my answer really, at least in regards to vengeance

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my guess is maybe gods of order and peace with a less than nice or peaceful way of achieving it?

jagged apex
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though honestly, there is little to nothing in the oath of a conquest paladin that lends itself to goodness

shrewd bobcat
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Yeah, I know it was a stretch but I was just exploring possibilities.

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Need a God that's sort of between Ilmater and Loviatar

feral lintel
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I used the Red Knight as a god for a conwuest paladin. LN tho

jagged apex
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again, in more modern editions of dnd, paladins do not need to be associated with a god, like at all

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they can if they wish, but is by no means required

slow river
#

Where would I go to find the lore on Mythrien Sarath?

iron saffron
stoic osprey
#

Glanced at the Dragon Turtle entry in the monster manual and saw a massive ship sized dragon about to capsize a ship. And this got me wondering, if scenarios like this is common then how does maritime trading survive at all?

iron saffron
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Because dragon turtles are not that common.

stoic osprey
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Not dragon turtles specifically, more like sea monster attacks in general, how does that affect maritime trading?

crude blaze
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Because it’s not supposed to happen commonly

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When sea monster attacks start to become more common, that’s when adventurers are called to action

iron saffron
unkempt merlin
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Dragon turtles are also liable to extort ships that pass through their territory. So maritime trade in settings that that occurs tend to either A) avoid the territory or B) carry a tithe for them

thorny ravine
#

Hi! I have a question regarding the Zhentarim. What can be the rank of a Zhentarim base commander?

turbid kelp
#

is there a lore compendium for the forgotten realms? I'm looking after a way to make an original backstory for my tabaxi monk

tepid quarry
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There’s a forgotten realms fandom wiki

turbid kelp
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yeah but there doesn't seem to be in depth info about tabaxi's, the page is enough for informal info but I need more to build my character

magic jackal
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Try the related pages.

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Or try the Sources.

turbid kelp
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will do, thanks

tepid quarry
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Yeah, there’s probably a bunch of third party stuff out there.

magic jackal
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That's probably not what they're looking for.

tepid quarry
magic jackal
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And that's way beyond the scope of this channel, that would belong in #third-party, this channel is for discussing the Lore provided in Official Sources.

magic jackal
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And they're correct, it's not got great depth, hence I recommended checking the pages that are linked to that page, and also checking the Sources at the bottom of that page.

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The reason the FR wiki is respected is because it links its sources.

tepid quarry
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There’s an entry on Tabaxi in Volo’s Guide to Monsters

magic jackal
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Yes, that's a Primary Source.

tepid quarry
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Sorry, just trying to find new material. Perhaps there are articles expanding upon it on DDB?

magic jackal
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The best material on Tabaxi to be found is in Sources in the FR wiki page.

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When I want to learn about the Forgotten Realms, I go to the Wiki, I read the articles, then I check the Sources and I read them. The articles usually summarize them well, but there's more detail in the Primary Sources, naturally.

grim siren
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Most if not all realms sources can be purchased on DMsGUILD in at least PDF format.

fathom ore
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Can someone help me out with something here

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Whats the difference in domain between Tyr and Bahamut

sharp mango
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Yo! I could try!

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Well I can't help- cripes-

fathom ore
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They both seem to be, le lawful good god of justice and being le lawful good

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sept one is a dude and the other is a dragon

feral lintel
fathom ore
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what do you mean what do i mean

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Those sound

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like

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the same thing

feral lintel
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Could you maybe clarify your question?

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Im kinda confused as well

fathom ore
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What is the difference between the two

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besides their forms

feral lintel
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Personality

fathom ore
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Like their domain

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Their, area of worship

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What they stand for, what their clerics strive to enact

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or what have you

feral lintel
fathom ore
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Okay dude

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Thanks

feral lintel
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np

fathom ore
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So does anyone else know?

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Cause it seems to be theyre kinda the same dudes, just one is more, norsey

feral lintel
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Alright, I think I get it now. Both gods, while sharing some similarities, aren't the same. They have different personalities. Bahamut is a dragon god of Justicem, and described as:

Bahamut was stern and very disapproving of evil, always arguing with Asgorath about his crusade against it. He accepted no excuses for evil acts, and didn't tolerate even minor offenses by evil creatures.
In spite of his stance, he was also considered one of the most compassionate beings in the multiverse. He had limitless empathy for the downtrodden, the dispossessed, and the helpless.

sharp mango
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Tyr is the god of war and order in Norse mythology and is very important within its order. While I don't know much about Bahamut, I can see that from what Timo said, he's Light and War. These can be different in personality and figures, not including visuals.

fathom ore
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Love they just called it that

sharp mango
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?

iron saffron
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Gods may share the same domains and sometimes have overlapping portfolios.

fathom ore
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Right im just asking what makes them different

sharp mango
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They're different in terms of origin and personality, as well as morals.

fathom ore
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Such as?

iron saffron
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They're different gods under different pantheons. Tyr is a interloper god from the Norse pantheon but now part of the Faerunian pantheon. Bahamut is a god from the dragon pantheon.

feral lintel
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Bahamut tolerates no evil, but is very compassionate towards those who are suffering

iron saffron
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Read the links Timo provided.

feral lintel
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^

fathom ore
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Illmater grind

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I asked specifically here so i could have someone explain it to me in a way easier for me to understand then analytical lore siteing

sharp mango
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What would make it easier to understand? /gen

fathom ore
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on a giant wall of text

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Hard to compare two giant walls of text when i can go into a server and go hey whats different and people can be like

sharp mango
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But what would make it helpful to understand?

fathom ore
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Got muted for saying the peepee word

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I mean, man,

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Try reading a book

iron saffron
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They're both gods of justice but from different pantheons.

fathom ore
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then watch a video of someone explaining said book

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information is processed differently

fathom ore
iron saffron
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Okay...

sharp mango
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Rad! Happy we helped

fathom ore
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Alright................

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I just asked a friend who explained it beyond, "google it"

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but thanks for trying ig

feral lintel
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Google is the best place to ask

fathom ore
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Because you should always believe what you read on the internet

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Without ever questioning or second guessing

feral lintel
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Well, what makes asking us different than asking google?

fathom ore
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Because to use google you have to know exactly what your looking for

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If your looking for information on something specific you will find that specific information

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but how will you find out, in a simple form, things you would need to know otherwise

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If i ask someone, hey whats this god about, and they go oh theyre

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god of this, they dont like this person

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its much easier to understand

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then

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20 PAGES OF HARDCORE LORE OF EVERY SINGLE THING

feral lintel
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I can tell you that the links I sent are pretty accurate and reputable

fathom ore
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Okay?

iron saffron
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The FR wiki is reliable and often linked here.

fathom ore
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I already had multiple tabs on them already

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Thats why, and why i said, i was asking here

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cause i wasnt understanding the information

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Its like giving someone a text book, telling them to read it, and if they dont get it instead of offering insight you just tell them to reread it

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like

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You would not give a new player the players handbook and expect him to understand every intricate detail or every optimal play

feral lintel
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No, since that would require a lot of rereading nonetheless

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I always look back at the PHB, even after two years of playing

turbid kelp
grim siren
magic jackal
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Not every piece of content on DMsguild is canon, but Sources from Prior Editions that can be found on DMsguild are canon, and that's the main way they can be acquired because they're no longer in production.

rancid saddle
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What's the more powerful noble after the King in DnD?

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The Duke or the Archduke?

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I'm not sure if there's archdukes in dnd

spice hull
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Depends on the setting. Waterdeep has a whole labyrinth with the Open Lords and Masked Lords and Lord Protectors and the second coming of Manshoon

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Neverwinter has just Dukes, then Barons iirc

unkempt merlin
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What the "most powerful" position is is entirely setting and then location dependent

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Many places don't have "kings" or any number of other titles

pure robin
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how hard is a griffon's egg?

rancid saddle
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I meant comonly

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I'm trying to make a charaters with and ambiguous background enough to able to fit any campaign

iron saffron
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Again, which setting?

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If your DM has a homebrew setting then ask your DM.

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Not every nation uses the feudal system.

grim siren
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Even IRL doesn't get you a one size fits all answer.

Emperors
Gods
Senates
High Kings

Etc

iron saffron
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Emperors over gods? Oh, that's head of states.

grim siren
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All bow before god emperor of dune

half tulip
# rancid saddle I'm trying to make a charaters with and ambiguous background enough to able to f...

There isn't such thing as "commonly" or "fit any campaign". Talk to your DM and create a character based on the given setting. Besides that I assume most DMs wouldn't allow such high powered homebrew backgrounds. There's the noble which should fit most of the time. Backgrounds like (Arch) Dukes and the like just bring a lot of problem with them: what about their wealth, the followers and so on? If nothing of that matters, then just choose noble.

rancid saddle
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It's just a reserve charater

rancid saddle
jagged apex
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it all comes down to the type of goverment in question, which is not only setting specific but location specific

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dnd is not medieval

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common misconception

grim siren
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Yeah. The clarifications are not really changing the snswers

half tulip
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And even medieval can mean a lot of different things..

rancid saddle
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She's the illegitimate of a Duke, so she has no real power.

grim siren
iron saffron
rancid saddle
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Okie

restive dagger
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is the dead three an active title for the gods Bhaal/Myrkul/Bane? cause Bhaal is alive, right? would that still make him a dead god?

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or is the title more about their domain? the fact that he is a god ruling over the domain of death/murder

iron saffron
jagged apex
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presumably at least do to cited sources in the article, is do to their shared theme that to mortals often is associated with death

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when to my knowledge the only 2 that actually involve death in some capacity is Bhaal, god of ritualistic murder, and Myrkul, god of decay and exhaustion

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the name is honestly arbitrary and is really only of use to convey the 3 former mortals that are now gods are involved in the same sort of plot or something

gray ember
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Is there any established lore on the genetic differences between tiefling bloodlines or is the only way to tell by what kind of spells they know inherently?

feral lintel
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Arent they all related to other Archdevils rather than Asodeus? PHB ones are all related to Asmodeus

crude blaze
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The PHB ones are all in theory connected to an ancient deal made with Asmodeus. The legacy MToF ones are all related to other archdevils. With that being said, it’s all within the scope of Forgotten Realms lore.

spark haven
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There might be, I genuienly am not certain

fathom ore
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So whats the current consensus on dragonborn lore

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Are they still from another world, are they dragon-kin?

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Just curious

unkempt merlin
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in the FR?

versed hare
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I try not to think to hard about that when I'm running and planning games, most folk knowledge of commoners is unreliable so the masses don't know usually

unkempt merlin
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Cause their lore is different depending on setting

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in some they are more directly dragon kin

fathom ore
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Sorry meant to clarify

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yes, in FR

fathom ore
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etc

versed hare
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So yeah pick your truth, but for alot of things there's many conflicting accounts

fathom ore
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Yeah they change lore alot

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and they say well you as a dm decide

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but there is a definte canon on what happens from a story perspective

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for better or worse

versed hare
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Yep, and that's at the table level, what's cannon at your table may not be cannon at mine even in forgotten realms, even if we ran the same module

fathom ore
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canon*

gray ember
spark haven
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Again, that's a huge assumption in a world where magic and gods and coterminous and noncoterminous planes of existence exist

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If I'm wrong, and there's a Gregor Mendel analog with his pea plants I'd love to know because that'd be a fun story element to work with

versed hare
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Genetics yes, bit not following realitys rules exactly