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I'm going to be getting 2nd or 3rd milestone without paying anything, don't think i'll be able to complete. It's nice enough trit in it to try, and the research is nice anyway.. just burning speedups.
What ops are you? At ops41 and burning the speedups we got for free, and building up the away center a fair bit before starting research i'm on 1200 points so far
I'm ops 35
I can push the shuttle bay, does it make it easier to complete the away team missions? Might have missed something
I'm failing 100% chance missions despite building it up
upgrading shuttlebay adds efficiency to the research costs, so you can get more research done without burning your service awards
SS a failed 100% mission, that must be a bug
Have done, thanks
Wish i could get service awards.
Problem is the failed message doesn't show the mission at all
Thanks , pushing the little building as high as I can go
Managed 3000 points yesterday...f2p
Key was to get shuttle bay as high as possible before doing any research, and getting high multiplier on low time high service rewards
Burned all away speed ups we got and maybe 10k lat for normal speed ups
Damn you commmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmonn ore
Or should that be kahhhhhhhhhmon ore
Itโs whatโs costing my lat
Doesn't look like i'll be able to get my shuttlebay past 30 before i run out of ore, and very rarely get 4h missions - meh!
have you tried a station pack
^few
I gotta give credit where itโs due, this was a well-executed release and small issues have been responded to in a very timely manner, well done team <@&509690795536941056>

meh, hasn't been great
Has this been an issue brought up already where some aren't getting points for this event?
Have you shifted alliance?
have you only recently joined an alliance?
I did before the events
Ohhhhhhh snap, I totally didn't even read that it's an alliance event xD
Thanks @bitter snow @earnest hornet !
That makes perfect sense, lol I honestly thought it was a solo event the entire time and didn't read the Monthly Alliance part ๐
I see that the ticketed events require a new type of ticket so any that were carried over from the last few arcs are useless. Thanks Scopely
Supposed to be a conversion 10 common for rare and their supposed to be uses foe the regular ones later as well.
and new tickets are sold only? ๐
thank you. I see the converter now
just irritated. I wish they would give a little more insight into the ticketed events so people can prepare
Wtf?! Why not 1:1 change?
No free rare tickets? Thatโs really strange. And the converter doesnโt help, I only have 5 regular tickets (of course I use them when I get them, rather than hoarding)
The rewards for the tickets are not 4 time better so why is the covertly 4 to 1. What bs. I want my money back
So you get us to buy Event tickets then rip us off more by giving us a conversion to rare tickets at garbage rate of 40 to 10? what kind of greedy garbage is this!
bullshit
So how do we free to play people get normal tickets to exchange for the special tickets
Wait, after promising that weโd regularly get a way to get tickets for ticketed events, you throw at us ticketed events requiring Rare tickets that we can convert from 40 regular tickets?? Why would we have 40 tickets laying around from last month??? Do you not expect us to play the game?
They expect you to pay
same reward as old ticket they just change colour and make converter..why...
I have 340 uncommon tickets left. And they are useless as extremely under valued now. Are you going to be providing a refund as they are no longer worth what they are purchased for?
it's the next generation of tickets
dollar dollar bills ya'll
The new ticket thing is just stupid. We donโt even get 1 event for free each day like we did before.
why even change tickets in the first place
So it's pay for the tickets?
so people who bought old tickets cannot use them now even AFTER scopely said they wouldnt be changing tickets
Its a pay for the tickets, then convert the regular tickets for a quarter of what you paid for
ticket converter at 4:1 rate in the event store
$copely does it again. Great success in events. Pay more money or GTFO. You really want people to quit this game, don't you?
These rewards are a joke, 11 uncommon and 4 rare per 10 converted tickets...are you kidding me
so if you have 9 tickets you cannot convert them as you need 40 minimum
normal ticketed event only start next week, as per in game news channel
I have done some extra ticketed events in the past becuase there was an alliance leaderboard or alliance milestone event running at the same time and I want to help my alliance, but this one doesn't have that.
so dollar and euro inflated 1/4 in one month ๐
Fun fun fun
that escalated quickly scopley ๐
The new rare ticket scam is a horrible cash grab... even for notoriously greedy Scopely. I feel bad for anyone that was scammed into purchasing the old tickets with the promise that they will still be good. 4:1 exchange rate for 2x the rewards. Feels like bait and switch to me... people should be putting in refund request en mass.
Next. EPIC TICKETS
Not raising the rewards is some straight BS. I didnโt even buy tickets, but Jesus Christ, devaluing something by 75% for no reason is moronic
Yup, they will gladly accept a first born child or a kidney for 10 epic tickets. Flexible arenโt they?
so who was gullible enough to buy rare tickets?
Geez. Take a chill folks. The uncommon ticket events run on alternate days to these and we will still get free tix for those.
basicly is mobile game... they are not shame asking 100bucks for anything a know people who spend 1000s on this and event that they inflate tehyir purchases arch after arch ....
the rewards are no different to the orginal ticket events but cost 10 times more
This ticket thing is a joke, I bought a pack last arc with intent to use again, like previous few arcs.....now....something new......great
Using TNG captains in hunt the faction are not working
Another complete fail! No way other than buy tickets for the new event..... clueless devs ๐๐ป
Scopely has just ensured I never buy an event ticket again
yup we should boycott these new tickets
Have there ever been a completely paywalled event
scopely enuff is enuff stop trying to gouge every player for events
Right after the prime mining pack I bought didnโt work....
I mean....scopely targeting the users who were gullible enough to buy the tickets to screw them even more is fantastic. Punishment for obedience is some next level stuff for a mobile game
yeah
you which ensures those ripped off wont buy them again
So $100 for 130 rare tickets, and 10 tickets per event. So the daily ticket events now cost $8 each??? F that....
i love it now the ones who bought have to justify it ๐คฃ
#boycottrare tickets not worth it plus the grind.
Or maybe they buy even more? People are into some weird stuff
Greedy POS's are going to drive this game into the ground! It's already in nose dive position...
rare ticket event but no rare tickets...any way to get them other than buying them?
Actually its a shame that the regular Tickets did cost 99โฌ for 360 and the conversion is now 1/4? Super scam.
Payed the same price as they have now,then at least i expext 4x the reward
I assume the reg. Ticket event rewards will be cut
i doubt many will buy rare ticket packs not for $8 an event
Anyone received their free gifted tickets yet? Are they uncommon and 10 of them? ๐
Of course the game is now for whales only!
At this point, it has to feellike Scopley is just grabbing what they can before they close the game.
I agree they shouldnโt, but people are dropping a thousand on 1 component of a ship they canโt afford to repair
Cuz Scopely is greedy and doesn't actually give 2 facks about anything but a buck. They deserve to go t.its up!
Did they just rename the events and made them 4x more expensive???? Is this their idea of "reworked new style ticket events"? LOL
This ๐
Yep. Rewards are exactly the same
hope ares and the rest are passing this info on.
Iโm 90% sure they reduced the rewards too
THE ROM AND KLING HOSTILES ARE NOT SCORING POINTS IN THE HUNT THE FACTIONS EVENT
this is what yall get for spending so much
โSame rewards, now at 4x the price!โ
gg
Where do I get the rare tickets?
And they said those Tickets will be used also in future, nothing about they will change over time. This is just not right
Not getting money from me anymore, period. Sick of their pure greed!
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What ?? No way scopley can go *** all .. I ainโt buying
This really sucks u give us a event that I can't do cuz I can't exchange any tickets cuz I don't have enough to exchange way to go scopely and I have no free option to get enough
it look every month scopley testing how much stupid people are in spending money ๐
At least a 1:1 conversion would have been fair
Scopely pushing some management bonuses??? You cannot be serious!
@loud solar we need your voice calling out scopely on this scam
Yea, that would just mean they replaced uncommon tickets with tickets renamed to "rare" ๐ ๐ ๐
they already released it
so the folks that bought the previous ticket packs need to take 1/4 reduction to covert to rares? wth
they going to back track and act like they didnt know if we would like it
gotta grab the money from the dumb whales that buy it first
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it actually is. it started with the battlepass with great rewards in the first one and it's been getting worse every battlepass. they checking how low they can go before ppl stop buying it
I think they just made another mistake, and put in wrong events ๐ ๐
Read your event notes. They still have regular ticket events coming
How do we get rare tickets
do not care
Event store has a ticket converter. Buuut I only have 20 of the previous ones. Need 40 for first chest.
Rare are extra. If you donโt want to do them then you donโt simple
The events live now, are the regular events! Just cost rare tickets ๐
<@&509691205798592532> I'm sure you're on it, but any chance you can bring all this feedback to the PM and dev teams at scopely? I'm sure they'd like to hear how much we all "love" these new rare ticketed events
Read the event notes look at the dates
the ticket events have always been doable if you had tickets
none of them are avaiable
wouldnt those tickets be the new rare ones? scopely money grabbing again
duh
On it
Couple of things folks -
- Battle-pass rewards have not changed or decreased in any way since we introduced it. The value has always been the same (although we changed some of the items in it).
- Uncommon ticketed events are still here for this arc (first ones coming Sunday) and will be exactly like they were before
- These new rare ticketed events are optional this round and specifically meant to give the away teams refresh tokens if so desired.
We are reading your feedback on these new rare events as well and like with the uncommon ones in previous arcs, will make adjustments in future runs if needed
you can go buy a pack of tickets tho show off your braincells
So looking at these new pay to play ticket events. The rewards look exactly like the uncommon ticket event rewards... Does that mean the uncommon ticket rewards are now going to be even more trash then they already were?
Bro, these "new rare events" have the same rewards as the old regular ones. What are you on about?
so there are EPIC tickets coming ๐คฃ
Unfortunately the rerturn on price is much better for a pack than what you would get with rare ticjet event, so why bother with these ?
@young viper Did you read what I even said? Thats my point
My issue isnโt the cost of the tickets for the rare event, itโs that the rewards are not 4x the rewards of an uncommon, and they should be, at minimum
So safe to assume the UC ticket events will have worse rewards than last time we saw them... So the rare become 'better'
@fresh peak #1 is a flat out lie. There have been creator vids on the subject. Rewards HAVE gone down.
errr if i buy spend 20 bucks and get 100 stuff for it and next time the same 20 bucks get me just 80 and then the next just gets me 60 then it is in fact loosing value
No I didnt, I was replying to someone else ๐
Remember when a relocation token was an Elite tier battle pass reward? SUCH VALUE
#boycott the rare ticket packs lets kill this silly idea of scopely's
Optional meaning spend money. What doubletalk.
which is exactly what i said. the rewards on battlepass are worse and worse every time a new BS is up
This would have been helpful to know before converting 120 of my uncommons for 30 Rare.
Can't choose to do rare event if I don't have the tokens to make the choice with.
These "new rare evetns" are NOT NEW, they exactly the same as the old one, just 4 times as expensive
I assure you they have not. I have been involved with every Battle-pass arc since it was introduced in 2019
Why do you make these events so bad that almost everyone of them has to be adjusted?
Because we are the beta testers
Why have events with no way to get the tickets except for buying really stupid job
@fresh peak I've watched the videos myself!!
@fresh peak seriously this looks like a big FU from scopely to the player base fire that idiot that came up with this idea
Ops 12 mission ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐
I doubt we'll ever see this, for reasons, but it would be interesting to get some insight into the weight/value associated with various items (1000 iso-emulsion in some previous paid battlepasses, for example, feels underwhelming to most of the player base).
are you joking ? we play the game. we know how many resources like ore, gas and crystal we got in first BS and how many we get now. it's almost half of what was in the first one
That's just not true. Like I said, they have not changed.
Not getting the 2.5x points using TNG data as captain
That's NEXT GEN crew, not TNG
if i knew i would have this discussion some day i would have gotten a screenshot just to shove it in here
Right
@fresh peak screenshots in vids say different, sorry.
No they don't.
Perhaps it'd help if you share what videos these are
im sure lcars has all the data
Now that's a fair point. Unlike resources (which have always been the same). We do switch some stuff in there like credits, badges etc.. so the perceived value might be off on some items based on how you value them vs. we do. However, on our end, the value has always been the same.
Rev did one.
I saw it. You're only using part of what he said in it.
@loud solar Are you hanging out anywhere?
@loud solar last video on battlepass rewards kind of disputes the naysayers in here. He showed rss actually increased in the battlepass.
@chrome rune is online im sure there is a ultimatedjs video or 6 with the stats in them
I've skipped 3 battle passes now because rewards have been shrinking and things were also removed from initial purchase of battle pass.
What is going on?
Howdy ๐
Oooomg
Arggggg
What is the question?
Again, RSS never changed (increased or decreased). it has always been the same. Notice that if you level up then the RSS goes up too though (like in other events))
Hey, Scopely. When the ticketed events came out you reassured us to go ahead and but them, more ticketed events in the future, blah blah blah. Is this what you had in mind??? De-value our money???
Battlepass rewards, have they stayed the same?
the rewards in ticket events these rares cost 4x the normal ticket events but the rewards are most definitely not 4x the amount @chrome rune
@fresh peak the entirety of stfc is optional....as usual, I'll pass on anything "requiring" purchases to participate. I am not opposed to spending a little to enhance or get ahead, but I will continue to boycott every paywall. Bottomline, if it cant be earned in the grind, I wont purchase it either.
If not, can you share relevant slides?
@loud solar battlelass loot lowering all the time.
Where are the awesome binars we were teased with?
Boo scopley!!!
Battlepass rewards, since inception, have essentially doubled. From Jan 2020 to Jan 2021
See pinned message. Those same uncommon events are still here in this arc. first run will be on Sunday. These are just new rare ones.
These fools now want us to buy the tickets for the ticket events? They are crazy
Thanks, seems some understood from your videos that they decreased ๐
@loud solar got any data on the ticketed events? Just curious
but is that because your ops level increased many times over that year?
One of the latest projects I've been working on the with the Dev team is the battlepass/ticket system. Is everything better now than it was, say, a year ago when the Battlepass first came out. From the feedback I've gotten from players on Discord, Facebook, YouTube, etc. many feel like Star Trek Fleet Command's BP system is providing less than b...
I go over that in this video
More pay to play shite
Anything you know of on why they might think they have decreased instead?
no
By adding the uncommon->rare converter, we are essentially also giving a free path to these rare events too. Albeit, not easy one but it exists.
Yes, because of the creation/inclusion of the ticket mechanic
Is that not extra flexibility on top of roughly the same rewards?
Absolute rubbish.
but if say a player has 39 original event tickets you just screwed them so hard up the ass without lube
But the average player doesnโt have 40 leftover tickets to convert! Another scopley cash grab.
I haven't purchased Any Tickets. Period.
This is very easy to test, Do you have a lvl 34 or 24 handy?
I have the direct payouts from Scopely for both those levels, in the BP
You're making it harder to access rss needed to grow the ticket events were a reasonable way to access rare crystal but now you've removed that because I can bet the standard tickets have less rss than the rare ones which are the same as the old standard events
Can't say I do, but Old Man is sharing that while items have changed - the value per battlepass has not. So if rewards from BP are changed to Ticketed - those ticketed should reward roughly what would've been in their place + give players choice on how to get them
It's not the RSS i think that's got me annoyed, it's the random useless extras that get thrown in, and for no perceived value.
Some arcs it's a palty amount of ISO, or nanoprobes, or borg directives.
This arc it's away team refresh tokens, which are completely useless when everyone is zeroed on speedups.
If the ratio was even close to the ratio of what you could purchase (4:1 to convert, 3:1 to purchase)I could see the converter ALMOST being a good idea.
I donโt have 40 tickets. WTF are we supposed to do if we donโt have 40 tickets?!
Uncommon vs Rare ticket event comparison (Ops 41). I'd say the Rares have about twice the return of the Uncommon ones (depending on how you value Refresh Tokens, Apex Medals, and Salvage), but at ~2.75x the pack price or 4x the converted price
Just now in our alliance 2 members left and uninstalled the game.... thanks to make it a game for millionairs only... NOT ๐คฌ
Yea, im here for info, to calm the alliance members down,,, its a zoo online atm
Excuse me and please tell me if I am wrong but have not all of the games content creators not reported that the ticketed events were going to be the same as in the prior arc?
Still have regular ticket events
@fresh peak it is time to update loot drops for 35+ hostiles? remove common g3 ship bp and add in away team speed up drops instead. NOONE who can kill 35+ hostiles needs anymore kehra vahklas or kumari bp
Way to attract more players to the game Scopley......the start of paying cash for the pleasure of participating in events. ๐ค
And the ticketed events look identical to the old ones. Calling them rare implies better rewards.
yeah, server is up and a buzz
4:1 ticket ratio? Are you mad, scopely?
That would be easy! Gear the game towards all don't just base it on profit!
not at all, just greedy
Starve the fish and there is nothing for the whales. Duh
My only complaint is not being able to choose to do rare ticket event with no tickets to convert. If I want to choose, I have to spend $50+.
@fresh peak and while we have your attention, do something about the disappearance of uncommon 3* mats after reaching lvl 40.
Unless there is a regular ticket chest coming that is just delayed because server. Then I have no issue.
Wait, did you still need those? /s
Maybe this is what the video of Scopely being hacked is a tease of, Scopely hacking our credit cards.
Raised it with design.
From events you mean?
yes and dailies too
So rare tickets another money grab idea. So much for keeping the tickets more ftp
We could always blame it on the Democrats plan to increase taxes so Scopeky is raising the funds to pay their tax bill.
And while you're at it, make sure events that pay out G4 uncommon/rare also payout common G4, as that's what limits a lot of ops39-41 players.
they have an office in dublin ireland they pay virtually no corporation taxes same as all the other us mulitnationals here
When the only source is from refining, then it is pointless especially since the RNG is soooo bad.
No event tickets given?
Its an extra event with extra prizes ๐คทโโ๏ธ I don't see a problem here
Looks like we now have to pay for ticket events. In a couple months, you will have to pay for all events.
Nope. Not w/o $!
Well that frees me up money aint paying Scopely another dime
@fresh peak is there any option to get rare tickets TODAY for free or only if I had buy tickets from last arc to change or buy in event store?
Again, helpful if this was an announcement ahead of time so that I would not just have just turned 12 Uncommon events to 3 rare events in a click of a button.
No next is pure subscription model with no extras and same packs
In the event store there are 4 missions to buy costing 140 mission keys. The battlepass only has 70 mission keys in it. Will the other 70 pay out somewhere or am I meant to chose whether to buy the 10/20/40 missions or save for the 70 one? As there is no information on what level these missions are for and what rewards they pay out until you buy them this seems to be a lottery.
Wanna bet the regular ticket events have 1/4 the rewards now
Anyone else notice the TNG Captain modifier (2.5x, Data as Captain) not working?
What a great event overview this time. ๐ ๐ก
I'm now half stuck in the game, because i made things ready for this Ticket event, counting on being able to get the ticket in some kinda grinding milestone, but no. PayPayPayPay....No freaking warning of this in the overview. So, GIVE US THE FREAKING TICKETS OR DO YOUR WORK PROPERLY!! ๐คฌ
So you bought epic Data?
The conversion rate from unc tickets to the rare ones doesn't seem worth it.
Simple fix folks, Stop purchasing the glitches!
These rare tickets ๐ซ thanks a lot, not!
Will raise it with the team to take a look
The rewards seem closer to what the tickets were originally
No, but it doesn't specify...doesn't surprise me though
I can get a whopping 2 events for something I paid $$$ for? Wow. Thanks Scopely. What a way to screw over the customer! ๐ก <@&509691205798592532>
No, just no. That's not a path, its a hidden mountain goat trail. We did not know this was coming the last time ticket events were up, and even if we did, the expectation to hold 4 days of free uncommon tickets for one day of rare is not viable. The increase in rewards for a rare ticket event is inconsistent with the conversion rate, and a path that I can't see is not a path.
Free Data isn't the TNG Data ๐
That's the conversion path for rares, but you can also keep your uncommon tickets. Those events are scheduled as well
Maybe scopely should have released the uncommon and the rare ticketed events at the same time. So then it would be easier to understand that it's a "premium add on". Unless your goal was to release rares first in hopes that the larger player base didn't know about the uncommons and spent money. Which is shameful.
Lol, he sorta is but I see your point. Thx for the info. ๐
What unncommon tickets? You mean the ones we spent last month because we were told there would always be more tickets coming?
Yes me is donkey
So donโt participate for four days to participate in one โฆ. Bs
Ah well knowing the whole drama last time with the ticketed events and the whole ๐ช up they did then and now "rare tickets", wouldn't surprise me if we see another big "๐" to the players in a few months
Feedback noted. Again, the idea is to have a way to give out the new refresh tokens for the away teams (right now the only way). We are trying this new rare tickets for them but we are listening to feedback and will adjust if needed.
How is it a free path when you don't have any/not enough tickets to use?
Perhaps you should communicate that clearly before people cash in all their uncommon tickets. #
Refreshes are useless unless we can get speed ups
otherwise you will have a whole load more complaints
That'd be more of a thing for <@&509690795536941056> to review
Have you tried reading the in game news?
Oh, and the RARE Power Leveling event takes mining into consideration which is good, BUT FIX THE PRIME MATERIAL MINING SPEED BUG FIRST WHICH I PAID $99 FOR PLEASE...
Scopely=๐ฉ
Up to now I've been able to participate in every event without spending extra $$ for the privilege. I could get/earn enough to do one of the ticketed events, and it was a choice which one. This isn't he first time where there is no free option to participate at all๐ก
@dire veldt any chance of being less passive agressive?
This was looking like Scopely listened for 24 hours and right back to only the whales count. Eff the player base
Not aimed at you personally, but during the last few years playing this game and seeing the mayor "๐", we as players got from the dev team I hope you can understand that we, the players have a hard time believing "we are listening to feedback".
I for one was very hyped about this TNG release and thought it was great. Now? Not so much anymore. Letdown after letdown is hurting relations with the players
What's the bug? Sorry, I want to make sure it is logged on our end
There will be free Tickets when the Uncommon Ticket Events are run.
Oh come on whales were cattered to with the elite milestone
Timing works but mining rate is the same.
This is a VERY bad idea
Thank you, it does make sense to have a method for getting those reset tokens out. If these events come back ( I hope they don't) speed ups would likely be more appreciated than resets though.
Absolutely but the free to play and casual spenders had something in there to do
We need ways to get speed ups as well, like add them to dailies in some way
@Old Man is there any option to get rare tickets TODAY for free or only if I had buy tickets from last arc to change or buy in event store?
Love it Scopley in the money grubbing efforts are actually making me spend less Money๐คฃ
away teams speed ups will be given in events etc (like regular speedups). We will incorporate them over time into more and more regular events and Battle-pass etc..
So basically you're saying that refresh tokens are for the pay to play whales only? Not us minions... get in the sea
I have to cofirm that the battle pass rewards have not been reduced. They changed some items around (like badges for other stuff this time) but the g3 stuff has been like that for ages
The bug where the mining rate does not actually mine material at the rate specified. Thus the timer on a node hits zero but material still remains. It was brought up in the bugs board and Scopley says they are aware of it, but no timeline announced on fixing it. #๐พ-bug-reporting message
While we get that you guys seem to find alot of value in the away team refresh tokens, the disconnect is that we don't see the value. Maybe you could explain it to us. In my eyes, away team speedups have more value.
LOL you mean after these rare events are over. smh
Second researcher costing 400% of the cost of the second build was the start
the ingame news mentions "Rare ticketed events" and "ticketed events" I only have uncommon tickets? I see a converter for rares? Is there a converter for "ticketed events" too?
they are meant to be more rare. Like rare/epic resources essentially.
wait, did they add more currencies?
What a crock, paywall for rare tickets? An expensive one at that!
awesome.. so now will we end up losing the regular speedups for these instead?
Got no answer yet?
Yes, rare ticket events are premium content. As a way to get some extra rewards compared to the uncommon tickets events plus the away teams refresh tokens.
However I dislike the value of the rare ticketed events. From the conversion it looks like they whould be worth 3-4 times the value of a normal ticketed event. When the only thing that hey have added are 100 refresh currency.
I would like to state that I don't have a problem with the rare ticket events, nor the concept. It's the claim it's a free patch and a choice when you can't make the choice. I think it would be better to have the free regular tickets and their events in addition to these rare ones. Then it becomes an actual choice.
They should be incorporated into dailies and/or the missions themselves
The pay2play track. Might as well label it as such instead of all this smoke blowing.
Ticketed events using uncommon tickets have been called as such since the start, the dates for both types are clearly laid out it the in game news.
If you donโt see that there needs to be a valuable adjustment quickly you (not you in person) seem not to listen. And how about think about the outcome in first place? You make it 3 times (money) or 4 times (converter) more expensive with no rewards anywhere in that area of multiplier. This is the most unfair way to go. You would make much more money if you make the things less expensive because many people would buy things but not for that amount.
Yeah, this seems to be the case here. The rewards from away teams are deemed high so refreshing more away teams is deemed valuable in our eyes. Again, if that's not the case for you then yes, we will adjust
honestly making it easier to choose to be a freetoplay, not spending money on this until they improve
one step away from uninstall
They also have higher regular rewards. Not 3 or 4 times, but definitely higher than uncommon.
This new arc is a complete failure each new arc gets worse then the one before
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This is not clear at all.
I have to kill 25 level 49 traders impossible
High the rewards are trash if you didn't have the rss to match it to your ops lvl
Why canโt you do one thing right?
Why do they give the same rewards as old regular uncommon tickets, but cost 4 times the price? Are you saying the old regular events are having their rewards decreased? Because right now, rare tickets are useless. Its better to save those 40 uncommon tickets, and get 4x the reward from uncommon events !!!!
They are not the SAME, they are HIGHER than uncommon ticket events, plus the refresh tokens (which is where the additionally higher value comes from).
Simply. If you make the conversion 4x a reg ticket, the rewards for the rare better be 4x better. Otherwise there is no reason to purchase them
The stupid killing Klingon ever absolutely crap as well
No point refreshing things if you're stuck with slots held up for days on end
That makes sense, in this instance it would be welcome though in helping people to grow a stock of speed ups before refresh tokens . If your going to use a refresh it should refresh as many away slots as possible and you need speedups to get to that point.
You can say what you want scopely but it is crystal clear.
Waste of a reward.. speedups way more valuable @fresh peak
So the uncommons ARE going to be nerfed ๐ Because right now, the material rewards are the same from the "new rares" as they were from the old uncommon ones.... Oh, and refresh tokens are useless, no value in them
No they are not going to be nerfed. And they are not the same.
Agreed. We will start giving out more away teams speedups down the road (similar to regular speedups) in events etc...
Ok, how much better are they? 10%? 20%? for 400% cost? You gotta be kidding
So scopely changed the tickets so we canโt use any of the old ones........
uncommons will be the same as always. No nerf.
Down the road. Like saving crews is down the road or in 2 days?
About 2 to 2.5 times from what I have seen.
@fresh peak there should be a grindable path for the rare. not just $$ or conversion - make it hard but make it an option.
Why no tickets for the event or atleast an event to earn tickets I used my tickets from last month so can't transfer๐ก๐ก
So we have to pay double for the same outcome
Sounds like scopley logic 2 times more rewards fit 4 times the cost
How much of that is the "value" of the resets
To be honest, I get a 12 hours away team mission after reset. If I send them away the refresh timer will always be in the past. Why not send the team only 11 hours?
Fair feedback. will raise it with the team and see. again, these are meant to be harder to get (unlike speedups) -> hence rare but I will look into it
So whats the next event scopely paywalls
Also with 1 day etc.
43 UCs from rare now. That would mean the old tickets were giving around 20. I remember that differently... Anyway.... 2x times rewards for 4x times cost?
@chrome rune is there any option to get rare tickets TODAY for free or only if I had buy tickets from last arc to change or buy in the actually event store?
The regular rewards are 2-2.5 times more PLUS the refresh tokens.
As someone said, there is zero value in refresh for me...far more valuable and needed are speedups
Who cares about refresh tokens
No. Rare Ticket Events are not source for free other than converting Uncommon Tickets.
They aren't rare to obtain they're just $$$.
You may as well call them Pay to Win event tickets instead of rare @fresh peak everything else "rare" in the game is obtainable through grinding
could you imaging recouping the UC3 ore from these away missions? would take years
And its not samrt to convert them๐
Can u make Refresh cost to 1 instead of 100?
The reset times need to be adjusted. For most people the one in the morning is too early, so even if the have finished away missions, they dont wake up in time to finish them. Effectively making the later reset the only useful one
again, you can convert uncommon to rare so there is a path but understood.
I cant...but be it 1 or 100 or 1000 there is no point in refreshing if all your away missions are 2-5 days and no ability to speed them up
Yeah agreed, all these free refresh tokens are an absolute waste of time. Not used the thing once yet. We need more speeds, or to be able to use lat like all other speeds.
Yeah scopely not free to play just pay to win
Conversion is not worth it
agreed, once i start setting an alarm to wake up to do a daily in a video game, i uninstall
we have a party here too ๐
Brother, thats like saying I can convert 4 Houses in 1 house slightly larger than one of the other 4. It's a money grab, PURE and simple. and its great that they know the TNG arc will be a huge cash cow so they are pulling out even more snekky tricks on us.
you can land on the moon if you are working for nasa and called neil armstrong.. just because a few can do it doesnt mean the majority is able too
@long ingot It's absolutely a free to play game. There's plenty to do without paying. It's the degree of freeness people complain about. They expect everything to be free lol, and if it was....... the game wouldn't exist.
And yeah, the conversion is a joke too lol 4x tickets for one ticket of equal value ๐
The resets also are less valuable as most away missions are 12 plus hours. Reseting only makes the free resets worthless
@hearty dust I understand the pay for things I've payed out some but these events should atleast be free for all to play
I am in the middle in P2W and F2P, I spend a bit but noithing excessive. If Scopely made it easier for the F2P players they might actually spend a bit more, but instead they constantly introduce new things that are 100% Money players only.
I think there would be far less complaining if the uncommon ticket event and the rare ticket event were running in parallel. Have one or the other just makes the paywall of the rare tickets so much more obvious.
The rare ticket events are HIGHER value.
If you insist on a 12 free reset the missions need to be more like 5, 10, 15 hrs long
@long ingot I've paid plenty too, including for tickets but only that first time around. It was obvious they were going to scam us with these rares as soon as they appeared in the BP lol. But considering their value has only gone up in price not reward, they could still give one free a day at least.
Give us more "Grinding" options to obtain things, like converting ship BPs, a better refinery etc. If you give us a bigge dopamine drip we are more likely to drop a few more $$, but paywalling like that, ESPECIALLY on the most popular of teh STar Trek franchises (TNG) is blatant and insulting.
@fresh peak
I think we should also have the event to earn a free uncommon ticket running with the rare ticket event.
@chrome rune Mate.....just don't ๐ We can all see what's in them.
But if u don't have enough uc ticktets to convert then ur screwed
I will convert my singular (1) uncommon ticket for 10 rare ๐
Higher value, but not 4x higher value.
Agreed
The next ticket events are epic, well you need 40 rare to convert 10 epic, or 160 uc ๐คฃ
they seem higher value to me
I think you may have failed in math, a 4:1 ratio to convert, vs a 3:1 ratio to purchase for 2:1 ratio of rewards
Then you misunderstood the initial statement.
@ionic fox In what respect? And don't say the refresh tokens
sooo does anyone have screenshot from one of the ticket rewards from last month?
the "higher reward" does not justify the costs
so we can see how much dili or gas has increased in these rare events
they look pretty much the same to me
for one, less time spent
@ionic fox well that's wrong for a start ๐
It is about 2-2.5 times more from the ones I have compared. But I don't have it in screenshot format.
I should stand outside scopley office and ask their employees if they will give me 3 or 4 dollars and i will give them 2 crisp dollar bills in return. Wonder how many will take that offer
@chrome rune i'll investigate this later but I'm pretty sure top milestone was 7m dile before and after
For what ops level?
---- It's obvious. Whale only event. It's fine, we get it. Just dont market it as new exciting content for the player base next time please!! Good night ----
@ionic fox Because they're exactly the same time wise lol. The kill one still needs over 200k points at my kevel for example.
To be fair, we havent seen the reg ticket events. Maybe they just made them worse payouts ๐คท
Then the it should be 20 uncommon for 10 rare
Is there delayed scoring on hunt the faction? Iโve killed several Klingon fighters but no points scored yet
@native monolith Romulans lol
Again. The additional is because of what value Scopely assigned to the Away Team Refresh Tokens.
No, unc tickets have been given at a rate to do one ticketed event per day. Only way to do rare ticketed events for free would be to skip four days of regular ticketed events.
Klingons as well. I just finished mine killing klingons.
could be, i have just compared doing 4 events to doing one, forgot how the milestones were in the past
This is for Ops 41. Personally I valued the Apex Medals and Salvage Parts higher then the Refresh Tokens
Know someone, where i can get the Tickets for the Selectet Event?
That is fair and your opinion. Then your option is to skip rare ticket events.
@pearl forum You're right ๐ I read it as Rom Kill, not Kli ๐ ๐
Once again, the refresh tokens don't do anything when your missions last for days. Scopely needs to see what is valued by the gamer rather than simply throwing a random high value at something that has minimal impact on the in game experience.
@ripper the rewards are 2x as much not 2.5x and 4x the cost and 1 refresh on away is not worth 20 uncommon event tickets, when away team rewards aren't good enough to justify it.
@fresh peak Hunt the Factions on the other hand? That is a great event. Lots of lat for Common and Ship parts or speedups, and Faction credits, no complaints whatsover. The rare paywall is still ridiculous.
For sure. The conversion or purchase value isn't worth it IMO, so I'll just save my tickets instead.
I can assign a chewed stick of gum a value of $1,000,000 does not mean shit
I wouldn't go that far, the rewards are awful lol
But not the worst.
Completely agree with this statement, the hunt the factions event is a win.
400 faction credits is what you consider great rewards? Lol
It appears that the 70 keys required to unlock the Focal Point mission chain are nowhere to be found in the BP rewards. This has been verified by two other members of my alliance.
And it's just another recycled event with a little latinum thrown in.
If that gum is in the shape of the Enterprise, scopley could prob make that kinda money ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Considering what they've been putting out lately.. unfortunately yes
@normal folio We just had a 3 day faction hunt giving nearly 3.5k of each in total lol.
Over 4000 Latinum is a godsend for F2P players
true, which has always been a favorite event of mine, with that aside... I stand corrected
@upbeat kestrel I'll accept that. But still in comparison to other events, the rewards are pretty bad.
@normal folio It's the event I hate most ๐ But it's by far one of the best in terms of rewards.
๐ฅณ if someone have too much money. Take the rare tickets now!!!
You can also burn the money - it is cheaper. ๐คฃ
If you do a direct conversion, 4k lat = 13 days worth speedups, which is very nice. and ~400 of each faction cred is not too shabby either
Your content team is ridiculous
It works like:
How do I get my vacation at the Bahamas?
Oh I do an event where I can milk the players to get a bonus, so I can go there ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
And it can basically be done just doing daily hostile grind with an extra run or two
@upbeat kestrel For some yes, I have like 150k latinum so for me the rewards are insignificant. It's good for you, of course it it. But events should be good for everyone, that's the point I'm making.
Notice how I said F2P players its a godsend? 150k lat doesn't sound like F2P
lol.. I actually have the most fun just grinding at ships.. almost at triple lock
Notice how I specifically acknowledged your situation lol
I'm not F2P, lol But I get the sentiment
No tickets for event?
Only buy in event store
@upbeat kestrel Then you should agree the rewards were trash for a lot of people lol
Look here
And there's 20 in the elite BP
I have 150k as a f2p. ๐คฃ But yes. Getting lat (1900) for me is 100% wanted and needed as a f2p. Commons, parts, speedups. Very useful
@alpine snow All your problems can be solved by just spending money..... It's that easy ๐ ๐
Or don't you want them to be able to keep up with their yacht payments? Lol
<@&509691205798592532> hunt the faction.
Points now working in klingon systems
True, but due to Scopleys incompetence and bad customer service. They lost me as ever paying money. They haven't changed in those 2 areas, so I dont see that changing anytime soon
It's ๐ฉ event
@alpine snow I know they're a joke and are constantly scanning people. But I'll still buy the odd pack, I see it as it is. If what's in it is worth it to me, I'll get it. It's about the one thing that's not a scam as you're getting exactly what you're choosing to get if that makes sense.
For the whales yah? But even people who buy 1 or two packs a month AT MOST, 4k lat is a decent reward. For people who only buy the BPass, 4k Lat is amazing
And I can't get enough faction creds so those are always welcome
4K decent amount? Are you high ??
@upbeat kestrel I'm level 35 I buy the BP every month, and a big pack maybe once every 2-3 months. I have all three epic ships, one of the strongest players of my level on my server. I'm certainly not a whale, and those rewards were absolute garbage for me lol.
I mean 400 creds is 1/3 of one epic BP if you don't already have them ๐
@upbeat kestrel 4k is nice for sure, but nothing crazy
The point is teh rewards are "Free" and requrie very little extra effort outside of a normal daily grind to get Faction hostile hunt completed
I'll never complain about free lat.
I thought Scopely said we would get enough tickets to complete in 1 event daily. Am I mistaken?
Which officers count as "TNG" for the faction hunting event? I'm using the "next gen" crew but not getting the multiplier bonus
Every time Ive opened a ticket to get help fixing things that weren't a fault of mine, they refused to help. My prime example is way back when franklin was released. I lvled up to get the bps. Only 1 of the 2 events popped. So i was stuck with half the bps to build it. After over a month of back and forth, they made it clear that although it was a problem on their end, they wouldnt help me out (Yes there was a followup event a few months later). However ever since then nothing has changed, stuff still comes out broken and they dont seem to care. I don't pay for a broken game. Especially at these prices.
That was in regard to uncommon ticketed events
i won't complain about lat, until they introduce speed ups that can't be purchased with lat.......
I'm literally half way done the event and I've only done 1 trip to Tygokor
Or free anything else.
Lat would be great if you could use them to speed up away missions...
I'm not saying they were the worst rewards ever. Like you say, it's free stuff. But labeling it as a faction hunt, that rewards trash in comparison to an actual faction hunt, is what made it so bad lol
Actually I lied, I'm at 12k/18k event points
Ben spending mor etime typing in here that tapping reds ๐
There should be more uses for lat
Like away team speed ups ๐ ๐
Yeah but I canโt buy them with lat
Which was my point lol
AGreed, that ticked me off when I burnt thrgouh all my speedups and had Nero stuck on an away mission for 12 hours because IU couldn't lat the away mission
@upbeat kestrel I had Kirk, Spock and Nero tied up for 3 days ๐
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a Scopely shill or defender, they do some super PS shady crap, but I can say an event has decent rewards when it does
I just wanna say events are not terrible but not great
Luckily I got some extra speeds in the research event which shaved a day off.
Is this not "TNG Geordi", as it should be giving 2.5x multiplier but it's not
We can't expect them to throw EVERYTHING we want at us, this is a Pay 2 Play structured game after all, but I'll take the bones when they get thrown
Pay walls, pay walls as far as the eye can see. #Scopely
NG and TNG are 2 different groups. Read the event description again.
Yeah it says "use the tng officers"
<@&509691205798592532> hunt the faction points work in rom space but not klingon ??
Ugh stupid
I would compare this game to this:
GM decides everyone gets a free car, with general maintenance, and a little bit of fuel to put around town, super basic, like a cheap little Cruze with no extras.
You want to upgrade to a different car? Pay
You want to add a few features into your basic car? Pay
You want Windshield Washer fluid? Pay
You want extra Gas? Pay
Snow Tires? Pay
etc.
Scopely gave us all a free game because they know they are people who will pay for all the extra shit to make up the cost on the F2P people.
Should be both, are you hitting ships of the same type? I know there used to be a difference between fighters and traders. Might be an issue now again
Correct me if I'm wrong here.
The battlepass awards a total of 70 mission keys. So if you spent those keys on any of the preceding missions (which you are encouraged to do with the event) it locks you out of this one?
#BoycottScopely
I'm hitting fighters
I'm hitting fighters in both
Absolutely saw that the first day. Is it worth holding out for it even though that means skipping 2 other events and a chest?
@sour plaza you get the other 70 keys through a server event
In this discord: People getting a FREE game with no ads, complaining about not getting MORE free stuff.
Which event? Or is it not out yet?
I d rather have ads during mining time ๐คฃ
From what I heard, there was a mistake.... MS 4 will now give you the keys to start bundle missions1-5, but it actually contains all 10. so they pulled mission 6-10 bundle and replaced it with an ATA speedups bundle (nice). this unlocks with keys from MS12. MS18 will give you keys for the 40 mission bundle.
with that mission bundle that costs 70 mission keys, it sounds like they will be sourced in an upcoming event so you do not have to choose or anything like that.
For "Hunt the Factions" using TNG/NG Data as captain in Klingon space, against Klingon faction opponents, is only awarding the base value. Bug?
@errant cape not out yet
Thanks for this, was trying to ask earlier but chat rather busy ๐
Okie doke. I am curious where you found out about this though?
If they made this game with an initial cost nobody would buy it since the paid equivalents are far superior. Most past ops34 have spent more on this game than a AAA title + multiple season passes.
no problem, it's been a bit hectic in here ๐
No apperently the first seasons of tng were called "next gen" according to scopely, so those officers don't count ๐ก
Does it cost you anything to play?
@upbeat kestrel same cost as my PlayStation
Yes. Time, the most valuable commodity in the world
We have F2P players that are at OPs 35 with Maxed T2 Faction ships and almost ready to build epic ships. Did it take smart play style? yes. Did it require persistence and patience? Yes
You are CHOOSING to invest your time to play this game, just like any other game, it is meant to be entertainment, if you don't feel your time investment is rewarding hit the uninstall button
If they want us to spend time on a game, it has to be fun.
See above
The point of voicing discontent is to make it fun and prevent us having to just toss it out. How ignorant can one be?
I don't suppose you've got a link to an announcement anywhere I can copy back for my alliance discord?
Unless ur only intent is to troll. In which case, proceed
<@&509691205798592532>
Those points are for the only rom ship I killed. No score for the klingon ones
So do we know if the old tickets will be used again in the future? If not scopely should have said that when we purchased them. They stated in the past that tickets would be useful for all ticket events and now that has changed. Technically we should be able to get a refund on purchased tickets if that is the case
thats always people who think you are talking bad about a game they put too much money into feel
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I am not trolling. Voice your discontent, I agree 100% that there are issues that need to be corrected.
they dont like you speaking bad and making others not fall for the idiotic thing they fell for
I would say I'm 70% satisfied with my investment and 30% unhappy
I come in here to voice my concerns as well
<@&509691205798592532> Same thing happened to me yesterday, auto kill or chasers or whatever we want to call them aren't scoring across servers
I definitly stated earlier my opinions on the Rare ticket being a blatant and ridiculous paywall
Correct, there's an issue atm. See #โก-mod-announcements
Thank you
This I would like too.
We are choosing because we want this to be good, because we love star trek. Except arc after arc things are pushed behind paywalls and its an uphill fight just to progess. Look at it this way, playstation plus membership for a 12 months is ยฃ43.99. Every month you get 2 free games. If I want to buy an upgrade for a t5 epic ship from scratch, it would cost the same in packs as a PS5. Couple that with things like event tickets, that were previously free now locked behind a paywall (which btw the cost is actually even less value than a normal ยฃ99 pack) and I find it odd that you come to discord to criticise people for being disgruntled with that.
No doubt within the next few months they will bring out epic ticketed events
I agree with the Ticketed event issue, I stated that earlier ๐
Taking them long enough to look at it. 18 hours so far
lmao
I get the fact they make you pay to do all 3. I can accept that. But it just really irritates me that you can't do one without opening your wallet.
Agreed
I am fine with paying for 3x the rewards, but F2P shoudl still have a foot in the door
Imagine spending more than a ps5 just to follow RoEโฆโฆ
Doors been slammed well and truly shut
imagine spending more than a 4 story building on a mobile game
If they gave even 15% more to F2P in terms of RSS and Materials, I can almost gurantee more people might spend a few bucks because they feel more rewarded
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30+ rom kills and only 275 points
@fresh peak in all the excitement over rare tix you havenโt answered my earlier question on the mission keys.
#๐-event-chat message
Anyone want to buy my ps5 so i can upgrade one gun on my ent??
lol
Im loving all the rss in this new arc
I also loved the 2 star gas from the missionsโฆ. ๐
Lol im talking increased para bellum events
Gotta pay for that shuttle bay somehow in those early levels๐คฃ๐คฃ
Trying to locate original content
Exactly this update is about more rss and revamping the game from the start
I have been looking for an answer too
Sooo whens picard coming?
only people that say that are people who have been spending
lol
So we can only buy the tickets then ๐ก
i think scopely is responbile for more new currencies than bitchain technology
We will have a milestone event that gives the rest of the mission keys. You will be able to get them all.
they are pretty close there are 5,000 different cryptos
The other 70 keys will appear on your credit card, once approved. ๐
Do I understand correctly that there will be no more free tickets for completing assignments for these same tickets?
@chrome rune yes you are right the mat / res are 2x then with normal tickets - it was a total of 7m dili. Thatโs what tricked me
You mean uncommon tickets? there will still be free uncommon tickets that go along with uncommon events (first run on sunday for this arc). nothing changes in that regard re: uncommon ticketed events.
It is clear, then today the event cannot be made for tickets ๐ฆ Again, promotion for money ๐ฆ
A friend of mine is probably into star trek more than I am and I've never reccomended this to him
should i start saving my rare tickets to trade in for epic tickets?
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Whatโs the point of offering bonus points for using TNG crew when you donโt give any??
Why could this not have just been announced somewhere?
Guilty lol
In the in-game news center it is listed as Rare Ticketed Events being Monday, Thursday and Saturday
And Uncommon Ticketed Events being on Tuesday, Wednesday and Sunday.
Is there somewhere one can go to preview the arcs? Discord and in game donโt seem to be sufficient
Oh yea and letโs have a ticket event but you canโt do it unless you buy a pack. Lmao keep getting greedier while they make the game shittier
so we are stuck in a game that sets up fixed timed events that everyone has to work their real life around, i sure do miss Everquest
It was in the event calendar but I think we all agree we should have done a better job at communicating. Official announcement going live from Ares now here
different events like cinema movies, you have to pay for tickets to see them ๐ซ ๐ซ ๐ซ ๐ซ ๐ซ
Scopley has heard you loud and clear. Scopley is excited to bring this fun new mechanic to improve borg armadas. Directives are now $14.99 per. We look forward to continuing to provide players with a more enjoyable gameplay experience
Thanks I'll pass it back to our community discord
I've noticed that the "trained" fighters are giving 0 points. Parking on the edge of a system and not actively grinding seems to have been addressed.
It is a bug (not intended). Looking into it
Thank you
@fresh peakIn general, all this is extremely unpleasant. the cost of buying tickets is incredibly high! you're depriving people of an alternative way to get these tickets and complete the daily quest for these rare tickets! An extremely disrespectful pretext for the players ๐ฆ
We should all have access to the away team stuff lmao. Donโt try and force people to spend money. Dumbasses
Yeah, all about the away teams. Thatโs why thereโs a metric sh ton of trit/Parsteel/Dilithium and other stuff in there.
At least buy me a drink before you do this.
Angry people which already spent 40 uc tickets for 10 rares in 3, 2, 1...
I think itโs fair to say the whole rare event thing needs a bit of a rethink.
Find me another โrareโ item you can only acquire with the USS MasterCard.
Even if you handed out one free ticket a week, with the option to buy more, that gives F2Pers a bone at least.
Explain the ticket events all you want. We don't care we want it running the way it was. No need to change it aside from pure greed!
Give us a way to get the rare tickets. Make it hard ikc just give us a way
The ticket events are โoptionalโ? All ticket events are optional! You mean, theyโre pay only events....just say it how it is!
$$$ is a way
Eventually all f2p will see it's purely geaลed to whales and leave and this game will do a nose dive!
Not everything is meant to be for the FTP folks
We know. It is ALL geaลed to whales.
Ability to participate is a good way to have some F2Pers in there.
Remember, a game with 8 whales per server will get boring quickly.
And it is making the game actually suck.
you can save up 4 days worth of tickets to get a rare set of tickets
O, well just an other reason why I see so many left alone stations. People are not stupid so finding a good raid becomes a rarity.
Don't use categories like p2w or ftp, that's ridiculous scopely system, u pay a lot for resources and other stuff and now u have to pay for content? U shouldn't agree, this will destroy the game
Don't care. We want it the way it was!
As long as you donโt mind not participating in the other events to do so ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
This is not geared to whales. This is geared for suckers.
It might be arguable that it is a bad way.
less advantageous
Oh well as I said they can crash and burn due to greed!
#bringbacktheburn
Won't buy single pack from this day on. They've showed their true colors!
I remember the good old days. Days when you only paid for small ship upgrades. I remember it like it was yesterdayโฆ.then i woke up
Jesus scopely, normally highwaymen wear masks!!!!
@abstract gate When is the next Slide window? Think we're done here!๐คฃ๐คฃ
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@fossil pond That's why they have everyone wearing them lol.
They're trying to blend in with good people.
When it doesnโt cost a lot I buy a lot, when it costs a lot I buy nothing. Thatโs what they want, thatโs what they get. I buy nothing.
No imagination in events, no passion for startrek, just a twist on the startrek universe to make a boat load of money, the STFC team shame the meaning of Startrek and what it stands for, rare tickets proves this with out a doubt. Samefull to the series of startrek TNG. Most that I have talked to on my server all agree shamefull and no thought or passion for events. Maybe nest arc let the players get involed in event creation and development, you might get a thumbs up rather than poos.
I think itโs harsh to say they have no passion for Star Trek but I think the balance between financial reward for Scopelyโs efforts and the player incentive to play has not been well managed here.
They sell you uncommon tickets for the same price as the rare then a trade in value of 4 to 1 ๐ก what a jib
That starts at 40 so still stuck with 22 ๐
Weโve all grown to live with the fast progression and Primes being a way to pay to win, but this is such a blatant middle finger to people that arenโt throwing fistfuls of cash at the game.
I like how they are trying to spin the conversion rate of 3:1 when you purchase as a 30% value increase over converting your already paid for tickets at a 4:1. Tell it like it is, it's robbery, gouging, greedy and meant to weed out the players that want a game that is ftp.
Weeding out the f2p players is one thing....weeding out the dolphins is quite another....
They keep doing this. Every goddamned month. They set value expectations then rip us off hoping we wonโt notice the cost creep
Yeah no thanks for the rare tickets. It's not worth the value converting or otherwise.
my favorite is how people said they are fine buying the battlepass but still think they are f2p
and they've slowly been making things in the battlepass irrelevant
or changing them to 1 officer shard vs the old 990 mil par
Battlepass is one thing. I donโt think you get to pretend youโre F2Ping when youโre buying the battlepass, but itโs a very small investment in comparison. 100% agree with them making it less relevant.
"we found it is still the same value"
I spent $20 a month on swtor. But for here, I've bout my last elite battlepass
Itโs not the same value as it was.
god i wish they would release a new swtor
They keep moving rewards around, eating into them slightly as they changeโฆ. We see you doing it.
The basic battlepass increased, but the elite battlepass decreased.
If everyone playing the game would all just stop buying the overpriced crap like rare tickets, then Scopely would actually get the message. Since they clearly only care about profit margins, then hit them where they actually will hurt. If they see no one is buying them, they'll either ditch the whole thing, or they'll make it available to win in game without such a high ratio. Personally, I think the whole ticket thing was a scam from the get go. Just a huge cash grab and a symptom of the price creep. They're testing their limits, and no one is really doing much to push back other than complain on these forums.
wont happen people are too far in the quicksand
i stopped paying when they released armadas in 2019
and alot of our original big spenders are gone
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Can someone from scopely explain this to me? Milestone server different ops.
Same server
One is my account other is alliance mate much lower account.
Rewards have always varied on level.
Nah he means the scores donโt add up at the bottom. I think
@abstract gate I am not talking rewards I am talking milestones
Good point, my misunderstanding. Yeah thatโs rubbish.
This is the 4th event this has happen to it happened in three of the last arc and I believe both missed out on milestones because of it
These event missions are either stupid easy or stupid hard. I don' even pay attention to the dialogue as it is uninteresting.
lol all these merchants why cant they all be in one shopping mall
Hi where do i report a fault with event points ect plz
The wall. Best response time
bug reporting channel or a cs ticket
are you using the free common officers?
I tried bug channel no answer figues eh ๐คฃ thanks tho
Huntung traders in vidar with borg crew and special borg lat token for quicker points
Hunting srry am merry ๐
And im not sticking my finger near that thing ๐
So unless you saved tickets from the last event to convert to Rare, you are not able to do the Rare Ticket Events?
$50 packs.
Oh Geez, so sick of these money grabs.
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Thanks for the info JBB ๐
So do i understand correctly that you can either do โWorlds apartโ and โBlind dataโ quest or only the โFocal pointโ with the mission keys you get ?
No, the keys required for Focal Point (70) will be distributed in a later event from what I understand
you cant even buy worlds apart 2, i guess this is also distributed later?
From what I heard, there was a mistake.... MS 4 will now give you the keys to start bundle missions1-5, but it actually contains all 10. so they pulled mission 6-10 bundle and replaced it with an ATA speedups bundle (nice). this unlocks with keys from MS12. MS18 will give you keys for the 40 mission bundle.
with that mission bundle that costs 70 mission keys, it sounds like they will be sourced in an upcoming event so you do not have to choose or anything like that.
Why is there always a bug in this mission key things, it seems so amateurish
How is it that those that didnโt save up common tickes get to have a free rare ticket and those that saved them from previous events that we chose not to participate in get screwed over!!!
Is there a event that gives 1499 more?
It's not the same is it
Who got free rare tickets ?
There's 20 on the elite battle pass
Not free
I certainly did not get any free rare tickets
Hate to be the that breaks this to you, but if you want a free game, you're in the wrong place.
Don't buy them, and save yourself some grinding.
Only way this'll change is if people don't buy them.
click it and read
I don't understand why people keep saying they are sick of this and that which Scopely does and yet time after time they just keep coming back to the game expecting something different. At some point people have to figure out that this isn't a game that you can play for free and get all the goodies. If you want to play completely free then you will be limited in the things you can do and how fast you do them.
I donโt expect a free game and you arenโt breaking anything to me by saying that, thanks though. I just cannot grasp how a game that has been experiencing declining membership because the amount required to participate has been steadily increasing over the last year goes and adds yet more only whales win events. It just infuriates people who have spent considerable amounts of money already but cannot continue to do so. I get itโs a business and people will pay it so why not make moneyโฆ but to have the community managers and content creators piss on my leg and tell me itโs raining is galling in the extreme
You don't have to buy them, and you're really not missing out on much for rewards.
Exactly I would quite happily pay ยฃ18.99 a month for the daily rewards but now I have to pay a minimum of ยฃ45.99 a month and that just isn't happening they would surely make just as much by doing that and having more people pay slightly less than making the pay to play aspects for a few whalea
<@&509691205798592532> Hunt the faction event doesn't grant the bonus points when using TNG officers as stated in the event description.
TNG officer not Next gen
in otherwords epic data not common data
@modern estuary ok, gotcha'
TNG crew (needed for captain bonus)
Next gen crew does NOT work for cap bonus
why people never read the fine print lol
How are we supposed to unlock focal point?
It appears that there isn't enough mission keys in the bp to do all of the missions
They will be awarded down the line in gift chests.
Ah
Anyone knows Minimum strength ship you would need for this mission? World Apart part one.
but it is getting ridiculous. the game is losing my interest
How are points awarded for the โaway teams/build the shuttle bayโ event? Seems obvious except that Iโve been accruing points throughout....
I didn't get any in the elite battle pass.
Day 18, not yet
No bonus in faction hunt when using jordie or data as Cap.... Good to see the bonuses for using correct crew aren't working as always
I'm with you there. I just gave up hope of having the fancy toys, and realize I'm gonna be a space poor forever.
And the really sad thing about it is that I'm probably into this game for $3000 at this point.
Need to be the purple TNG ones...the grey ones are just Next Generation
I'll just leave this right here.
๐คฃ pay wall ๐ฉ I guess. They are all TNG to fans of the show so I'm guessing Dopely made a distinction for the beloved pay wall... All hail the ๐ต wall
wow... i'm a f2p player investing "just" my time and contributing to the game... if that is not enough, i might just quit
You can be completely f2p and advance, it's just going to take forever. You need to be realistic about what you're going to get, and where you'll end up
But all those little packs here and there add up.
@mortal bronze What ops are you
if i conpare it to AAA titles on pc or console wich ask for 50 to 80 bucks, stfc is a hefty one right?
i'm ops 33 now
Plus a pc to play them on, lol
Yeah you're still at a nice phase of the game.. it's good till 35 and if you can jump to 39
But yeah, without money it's crap
I'm done at 39, 40 is purely p2p territory
If you're going to do anything just buy small things randomly like 2nd researcher or Leslie pack things like that help a lot but cost a reasonable amount
How about u runt the free ones first then do the rare one so we then can have a chance to rin them
Same, Iโve bought a few monthly packs, the battle passes. But jeeze 40+ is just insane
txt language when out in the 90s
@fresh peak i would love to see an expansion (now ye have the ip rights) on all races
for example add in more TOS era g3 ships such as miranda class, daedulus class for feds, some similar for the other 2 races then for g4 ships add in enterprise b and miranda class refit and uss stargazer (each have unique ship bonuses) and similar for the other two races, then for TNG era add in more rom / klingon officers as well as ships to balance out the 3 main races (the last 6 months have been heavily biased towards feds). for klingons gowran, kern, martok, worf's missus, duros sisters etc, for romulan tasha yar' daughter, commander tomalok, etc
have some ships with dedicated pvp bonuses
and some non aligned charaters like Q where when added to a ship has a reverse summons ability that can throw a targetted player ship out of a system(sends it home) but requires a hard to get resource to activate so its not over used
i'd name that ability pure omnipotence
add a medical class ship that requires a resource to activate an area of effect weapon to heal nearby ships
Is anyone else noticing that Faction Hunt seems to be broken? I'm killing tons of lv 20-36 roms and getting no points.
Didnโt have any issue completing mine
Dollars dollars ๐ต๐ต๐ต.........
working for me are you using next gen crew (common data/riker/crusher/geordi) or an epic data or epic geordi? you need the epics for the captains bonus
No, I'm not using any TNG crew. TNG crew is just supposed to multiply pts. They're not required.
ok what ops level are you?
- Someone on the server said rom was broken. I just confirmed. I'm getting pts from klingons but not roms
i killed klingons and completed the event one ac and other i killed roms both worked
Ah, that may be it then - I also hit Klingons not roms
Were you relying on trained fighters at all?
well at least I have a way to get pts now.
Yeah, I was using trained fighters for roms while on the road. Now hitting klingons manually.
on my main ops 40 ac i hit 49s in romulus completed it in like 7 ships on 2nd ops 35 ac i hit klingons
Trained fighters haven't been working for event scoring since the battlepass started.
i just hit a rom trader and it worked... looks like trained fighters aren't counting...
=/ damn. I can't be lazy with this one. ๐
Thought they fixed
Re: rare ticketed events
You offer rare ticket events 3 days before you can get tickets to convert to rare. The only way to do the rare events today is if you spend $49.95 or $99.95 to buy rare tickets.
$copely
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Need 4 uc for 1 rare, and rare do not give 4 x more rewards.
-----> do your uc free like usual, the rare are extra for paying players
FOCUS
Rare ticketed events are premium (pay to play)
Uncommon ticketed events are free
Only update I've seen so far is that the question was being asked about it. But I don't see everything ๐ฌ
event store you can convert there
Actually they can be free to play IF you have tickets to convert.
there will be regular ticket events next week
Still are premium events you either brought uncommon tickets or didn't do all the free events to do a rare one
To convert tickets you need tickets to convert.
So free to play is SOL this week.
Miss 4 free events to do one premium event why would anyone do that
@slim crow this was intended
Why use 4 good event ticket to do one that give less rewards?
Those who defend this enable the money grab.
i'd rather spend my money on packs that are way more useful
par/trit/dil i can raid
I have nothing against premium events, I did object to the use of the word "Optional" though as that implies optional to all not just spenders
If it's a premium event then say "Premium"
i wish they just offered a premium subscription say 50 a month that auto allows us do premium events
i ran 13 accounts omega in eve online for years i made a lot of in game money which let me build fight in and even lose supercapitals and replace them quickly
i even had 5 citadels
in eve online they have f2p (alpha) and subscription plan (omega) 15 euros per month for omega but it allowed you fly capitals (alpha can only fly upto battleships)
but even as alpha you could make so much isk you could use it to upgrade yourself to omega for free (30 days plex)
you just had to grind it
i lost a titan worth โฌ3500 ish in one battle replaced it 3 weeks later (yes they take 3 weeks to build)
@fresh peak any chance ye can offer a 5 dollar/euro pack that just gives relo tokens lol maybe 20 relo tokens for 5 dollars/euros make it relpace vault of latinum which noone buys
It's April uncommon for May Rare. May uncommon are given out starting Sunday.
not sure why relo tokens are any issue. I have several hundred of them and raid daily so use couple of them everyday. I find tygokor to be the best system to farm them and don't miss out the daily one from alliance store
try having to jump back n forth from DS to tc space several times a day
So why are you not playing eve only and whining here ?
because i got bored of eve
also have a full time job now ๐
Fight, donโt cry
thats a stupid response tbh, i'd fight more if i had the relos lol
So your strategy needs an update
the big problem is most events/missions/dailies are centred around nuetral space but for hosiltes and mining i need to be in ds
with refined mycelium capped at 18k you can burn through that pretty fast when using summons, so relos are often needed.
then there is the constant need to base raid which also uses alot of relos
Itโs a miracle how u can ran out relos.
if i am willing to buy a pack just for relos why not sell it? im sure there are many others like me who are not penny pinchers
do you hold tc space (5 systems) plus have to do defences for other alliances?
Yes
and need g4 for dailies
Yes
how often do you raid?
It gets lower cause you can gain more in ref or events and itโs hard to find unshielded
same on my server but when you do find one worth raiding its more efficient to plop your base next to it and grab it quickly before someone else comes to f uck with your raid or try steal it
Agreed, but to come back to issue, how can you have no more relos left...thought this is not possible ๐ฌ
i have some relos but im probably using more than i can gain in a day and then there are days where work overtakes my ability to grind
its one of the drawbacks to my job is that i can be called on to deal with a major problem at work at anytime
and then there is wife agro too lol
with needing g4s needing iso needing to do tc defenses, needing to do events needing to do dailies its alot
Tbh my amount of relocation tokens is raising, got my own company, wife, godchild, cats...
would be nice to be able to spend a few buck to buy some relos every now n again
im not expecting everyone to do that but it would be nice as an option
and scopely could make money for practically nothing
What level you are ?
40
I got 1 or 2 relos just out of grinding in Ty Gokor every day
i would use 3 -4 a day moving base just for mining g4s
i go from warp 75 pockets
jump base n move miners mine for a few hours on say gas next move to ore then crystal (using 4-5 miners in each pocket) then move base to tc mine iso for a few hours then while also doing borg/outlaw and events/missions then move to base raiding later when most fall asleep and forgot to shield
As I said, improve your strategy. Do it in packages, not in moment needs. Iโm out ๐๐ผ
Can anyone tell me if the "Shuttlecraft Frame MKI" Away Team Research scores the 100pts for the Solo MS?
meh id rather do a research that matters then skin researches
would you really drop 5 buck everyday just so you can mine g4? ๐คฃ get warp 56 miners dude. Use strategy rather than quick 5 bucks. I use about 3 everyday myself but still at 170 of them
of course.. but it is half the cost and i want to make sure i meet the Milestone
not every day but there are days where say 20 relos for 5 bucks would be useful
also warp 56 systems are almost always full where as warp 75 systems have plenty of free mines
and id rather use my crystal on warships/building/research than miners right now
for emergency I guess it would be worth it only saying the problem for relo is pretty much avoidable.
what i am asking is an option not enforcement
for scopley its easy money for those who just need a quick injection for relos
either that or remove the 18k cap on refined mycelium refining
just change it to allow you refine mycelium twice a day without a cap
What a joke, we don't get pts from doing things like this anymore
Couldnโt you go to 41 and get warp 75 on your disco for g4 mining?
trained fighters are not counted hit nornal klingons or roms
Well, they were before in the past arcs
What made scopey changed that?
not this arc evolve and move on
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they probably wanted to kill autofarming
Yea, like fxk
tbh if i was incharge of scopely pack store i;d change it all up
if ppl want something bad enough they will buy it.
so i'd offer 5 buck packs 20 mil dil or 50 mil trit or 100mil par (nothing else in the pack)
relo packs 20 relos 5 bucks
it would open up more sales to the low income players in the game
500 uc g3 10 bucks
500 uc g4 parts 10 bucks
i'd keep the other packs but add those to it too
when players see 100 bucks for a pack it will scare off alot of low income players
I think scopely's store plan has always been to push players for higher spend rather than what is in sensible. The battlepsss pack has been the only exception and has probably earned them more than any other pack. I just don't spend anything on this game not even a 5.
but if you could buy a 10 buck pack for say 500 uc gas would you consider it? especially if your are 500 uc short of getting a ship tiered up?
what im trying to articulate is a better more efficient offering in store for low income player would in fact generate more revenue for scopley on top of the existing packs
Anyone else not getting the x2.5 points with TNG Data as Captain for the hunt the factions event?
you using common data or epic data?
@modern estuary I haven't spent yet and ops 40. Realizing there is a bigger wall next to my current ship tier makes me not spend.
you need epic data ---- common data is NOT TNG crew
Conman data says next gen data
true once you get to ops 40 10 bucks for uc parts not mats would be a blessing... parts are the g4 bottleneck not mats
The event details donโt say common or epic.
same story there. I would rather wait for the 500 parts than spend and wait again infront of another wall. I guess I am just too patient ๐
you need TNG crew not next gen there is a difference
Ok. Thanx. TNG dose mean the next generation. Got the common data from the TNG pack
so far all tng are epics all next gen are common, likely to change next arc but for now you need epics to get the captains bonus
the event is easy and scaled to your ops level
if 38+ kill 49 traders 7-15 will do it
if not able to kill 49s kill 40s/41s 50 should do it
if lower kill what ever traders you can easily do
Is there really no way to earn event tickets today?
you can convert old tickets to rares at a cost of 40 per 10 in event store but normal tickets events are coming next week so dont convert. rares are whales only events in all reality
general consensus among players is to boycott rare packs so the idea dies quickly
basically walter in accounting wanted a new lexus and so came up with this silly idea
Wait, so you're saying the only way to participate in the ticket events is to shell out 50 bucks for the pack? WTF!
yup so dont buy lets kill this idea off asap
I can't afford that shit anyway, so no problem boycotting here.
its a pure greed idea nothing more the rewards are not all that much better than the original ticket events
so the players are choosing to tell walter in accounting to live within his means and dont buy a lexus he wont be able to pay for
and to forget the summer house
and im a spender who often dumps 1000s in a month into this game but rare ticket events for what i consider subpar rewards is a step too far
Not to mention the fact that I thought they couldn't offer something that you had to pay for without offering a free way to get it. I could be wrong there.
it would take 4 free 10 original tickets chests for you to get 1 rare ticket event
you would get half the rewards by doing it
so do your free ticket events forget the rares let them die
to scrotely really????? really????? rare tickets are an awful idea fire that twat to convinced you it would be a good diea
imagine going to a dealership saying i want to buy a new car.... the guy going ok ill sell you this shell of a car it has a basic engine but if you want to drive more than 50 miles you need to buy an upgrade pack that does it if you want to drive more than 20 miles an hour you need to buy an engine upgrade pack,,,, you walk right out of the dealership
i personally think scopely need to create a council of elected players to form a representative group to speak on behalf of the players. each server should offer up a vote to elect 1 representative per server and these elected people then form a council of players who channel ideas and frustration into a panel of devs who then determine whats feasible or not
the panel of players should take on onboard 1. bugs (determine a priority list for long standing bugs that should be fixed) 2. new ideas and 3. ui improvments and 4. event ideas
every year a new panel of players should be elected and no player should sit in the council of players for more than 2 terms
They already have one! Itโs called the WhaleCare Council
Does this mean damage to any armada or is it specfic?
I did it with a solo Eclipse so it should be every kind of armada.
@tired plank thx
Is there something I am missing, I out La forge as captain but donโt get the faction hunt bonus
It needs to be TNG crew, while the new cadets are Next Gen crew. You need one of these three.
These events are my vindication for those people that chastised me for being too pedantic regarding officer groups ๐
Yeah, it's not the clearest thing in the world, but Scopely get you with the details every time.
i wasnt getting the points this morning(2.5x), was using geordi, so i stopped killing hoping they would fix the scoring issue, but... yeah no luck it seems
well becuase more then likely you were using the wrong Geordi, nothing was broken.
well where do u get the epic geordi.. i dont have an option to buy him in the store. pretty dumb to make an event without the officers you need for the event
Woah woah woah there, chaos isn't meant to make sense. That's order's job.
It's Scopely is the simple answer ๐
The simplest answer is usually correct.
The intention of away missions was to help us progress in various ways, officer, ship, station development. Unfortunately for away missions the bar has been set too high. To have mission success you need to send your some of your best officers to stand a good chance, rather than the intended officers you don't use. I would suggest a rethink of mission requirements and parameters to allow us to stand a better chance using the non main stream officers, as that was the intention in the 1st place
I had a rare mission which took 3 days with a critical success reward of 1 Moreau bp... pointless
What everyone wants is more uncommon mats, a way to exchange or redeem the useless inventory rubbish, and a marketplace
Rare events @$13 aud a pop.... I just donโt know what to say
How about a variant of โScopely go โฆ yourselfโ?
Iโm hoping that itโs a trial..theyโll see the reaction and then fix.. but that does require ppl to stop being lemmings
I'm pushing my unused blue officers off the cliff. Getting lowest 98% success. Does this lower the higher level the shuttle bay?
Honestly, this is crap. I should have waited another 12 hours let's be fair
Practically the same hing here
I believe that the win chance only changes with officer stats, so if you level your officers it will get higher
Could be wrong though
thats well established by nmow yann
so focus on getting a higher Key stat will do your chance, overall stats will then increase your multiplier once you reach 100% chance first
i just sort by main stat
its baffling me that people are finding it so hard to get over 100%
maybe theyre higher ops and its harder or something xD
some people don't want to tie up a main officer for 3 days.
It can be a challenge with 6 away missions plus 5 ships top and bottom decks
away teams research prime research away team particle is the only to get is to buy??????
Though you can get better results by not picking the highest key stat officers, as off stats do still contribute. Particularly if you're looking at blues and have epics available.
@vital drum the higher you are the worse the multiplier
Don't level up the away mission building because you won't be able to reach 100%
There is a sweet spot around 30-33 For everyone
Epics are just not worth it
any answer on particles
Seriously? ffs. Was that communicated and I was too lazy to read it or did I get scammed again? I pushed it to 36..
It was not I noticed it because it was testing it every 5 upgrades
It was later confirmed here on discord
Great. I have real trouble even reaching 100% without using the epics that I need all day....
yeah takes more stats to get multiplier up but you also get more use per rewards from missions in tech tree
They arenr worth it
this game has always been this way
I can get 250% multiplier on my mission and 12k research materialn
takes alot more but you get little bit more in end
And I have a lot of maxed out greens. They are worthless for this.
The rewards scale like crap
