#🏆-event-chat
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80x15=1200 trial bells
the math is right, but its the wrong math
needs 25 bells per trial. 25*15= 375 bells total
Ok, submitted the feedback. Not sure if I will get a response since it's a weekend.
Do I hear comp chest in our near future?
This Q event is hot garbage. Eco strikes again. Nothing like putting someone who doesn't know anything about the game he's worked on for years in charge of running events
Did somebody forget to put bells in the rewards?
I know I’m not the first but WTF?
True, it is early morning agtet a late nigh, lol 25x15=375, lol. Maybe i shouldnt drink so much on a holliday weekend, lol
How are we supposed to get 375 trial bells when they game caps us at 80
And yes, 375 is 25x15 lol
25 per launch not 80
At least give us like 10 points per normal hostile for this event or have us hit something in addition at lower points.
10 points per normal hostile is still 150 hostiles, but that's something I can do 😅
500 points per q hostile and 50 points per regular 🤣
I mean, the 1st and 3rd milestones are a joke, when you get 100 per hostile.
… or give a bell gift like they do with tokens for Mega Cube?
Uhh, wtf scopely
I feel most active players do either 3 or 5 trials a day to drop your bells below 75 to get the 80 daily drip. To have 375 trial bells onhand is extremely unlikley.
would be bad enough if it was a stand alone event, but the fact its completion ties into another event is 🐮 💩
anyone else missing the q trials and officer xp alliance event?
only way i see it being possible without paying, is to get extra bells from the tier rewards within the trials themsleves
HAPPY THANKS GIVING! As our gift to you, have a challenge which you can’t complete without spending, and in turn mess up a meta for everyone! Your welcome,
Signed - Scopely
that q-trial quest is ugly, scoply grinched christmas, I hope that person who had that idea will get no presents for christmas 🙂
The math genius in scop should get a raise 🤣
I feel that this event as is would keep most of the players from completing the Thanks For Giving Meta, so I bet they fix it or autocomplete it. but until they do I'm all for continuing to complain! 😂
Scopely...get yer shtuff together

15 trials in 24h?
Ehhh: How?
yeah, welcome to the mob
Please scopley, can I have some moar bells
This can't be done in 24 hours. Your scoring system sucks
If you're lucky like I was, I saved up and I to where I had 160 trial bells. And then because I went below 80. It triggered an additional 80 for me. And now I have to wait 22 hours for another 80 which is not anywhere near enough
And the geniuses at scopley didn't even allow anything in the store to where you could pay. Say 20 bucks for additional bells
Even if I had enough trial bells, I most likely couldn't defeat 15. I'm already maxed at difficulty for me
Doesn't matter. You could go to the simplest tier and kill one of them and get credit for the hundred points
Worst SMS Event Ever!!! 😡👎
@cosmic steeple @supple token
I find that a lot of people don’t know this.
Looks like scopely deliberately made it to where there's no way you can complete the turkey event
Their way saying
Happy thanksgiving
Happy ThanksForGivingMeYourMoney Day
seems strangely familiar... almost like they have pulled this many times before
i understand you never intended to give me the meta rewards, just give me back the time i wasted on the first two
Actually, the $19.99 package has 500 bells
there is a free gift with trial bells that just went up
can confirm
Scopely thank you. That was a good recovery.
Crisis averted, still mad tho
I called it 🤣
Comp chest better not be more bells
It’s missing the Heroic name
Bells..bells and more bells.
i got Bells per
its completable now, they sent out a chest with 375 bells, enough for the 15 required runs. just go and do the tier 1 hostiles for easy wins
Box
Why would you make an ALB that eliminates alliance mates while they are with families they haven’t seen in forever on Thanksgiving? <@&509690795536941056> That’s really callous even for $copely
And they are here.
Cheers
Thanks for the bells, but low level ops that haven't cleared 1* trials still need an alternative way to score <@&509690795536941056>
The q trials events in the bounty hunting had a hostile killing alternative and this one needs that too
I couldn't be bothered doing yesterday's SMS, can you make that a gimme too?
Because of this, they have one less ops 62 playing. Officially done with this crap.
I do my trials every day. Takes 150 do do both dailies and only get 80 a day…so this event punishes those that engage in the feature daily.
They sent out the exact amount of bells needed to do the event.
To do the sms…the placement is leaderboards.
Its a LB....buys packs if you want to win, pretty standard by this point.
Yes…proving my point
I thought the trial enemies scale rapidly, if you don't do them for a while and come back and smash one, you get more points and move up faster. 15 is completely impossible below a certain level.
Even with bells, if you completed trails for your level/ship power you are basically not able to complete event. Need to change instead win, to start the q trail.
Hey scopely why the giant middle finger to 19-36 ish OP players on servers taht are new ? we cant even possibly complete an entire tier to reset it
Also why isnt the SMS just start trials and the ALB wins so it dont matter ???????
I found out today (and just took advantage of this fact) that you can go back to earlier completed trial legs and do extra ships there that are much easier.
Where's the backup scoring for q trial SMS, for folks who've reached their limit in q trials and can't defeat them anymore?
YOU CANT RESET IT UNTIL YOU CLEAR ONE , mid tier players cant clear tier 1 yet until about 36-37 if you do everything perfect , so for everyone under op 37 you cant even do this unless you literally never touched a Q trial and are high enough to win 15 from never having done a single one , thats ABSURD for a HOLIDAY EVENT
You can do any q trial tier that you already completed. I am going back and doing t2 q trials for the event. But yes, there needs to be additional scoring for the event period. People are right in saying that you have to be a certain power, not ops level, to complete even tier 1 of q trials
Or just switch the scoring to starting instead of winning a q trial just like thw daily
Will reiterate what others have been saying, lower ops (which generally means lower power, lower officers, lower literally everything) are actually still IN 1* and at a point they can't defeat them anymore 🙂
Um,, i believe that i said that in agreeing with you in the latter part of my comment about additional scoring
Should have been a hostile event for lower ops players
Right, just wanted to reiterate since you also said you can do any q trial that has been completed. And that doesn't apply to some folks 😂
I’ve pushed my Kumar to the limits there is no going higher. I don’t have the ships for this.
Q Trials are difficult as is, but 15 of them at my full strength? It ramps up so much too.
I see your bet and raise it.....
I can get a screenshot after events end if you want
our event just started 3hrs ago
That's when ours ended. You may catch us.
This was shared at 11:29 est last night...
We found some whales asleep after their turkey day
Is there an issue with the turkey bowl ALB event? We finished 4th, so I would assume we're excluded from the current round but some of our alliance can take part, while others can't 🤷♂️
I think if they didn’t participate or claim rewards from the previous alb then they can’t compete
Thanks, that makes sense, although it's not been explained anywhere that this is the case... Classic scopez
Actually I just checked the ship XP event and some people who scored then can't see todays. So it's not about scoring points at least
I SEEN THIS EARLIER
We didn't finish last yesterday and now only some can see it today... I think scopely made the logic a little too complex 😆
So thats it huh we just getting the middle finger from scopely on this Q SMS if we are under OPs 37 ish and cant complete a full tier 1 to reset
cool cool , feels very in the Holiday spirit
Have someone in our alliance with the same problem. Outrageous that it was even considered, forget the small print and fine details that will be used in defence. To have an Alliance LB that prohibits members of your alliance is quite frankly poor.
Was there any mention anywhere in the description of the event, that individual alliance members would get knocked out if they couldn't/didn't take part in the previous days?
There is no family, only Scopely.
thats me. i can't do the 2 alliance events today because i didn't see those 2 events in the disaster zone that is the events section. must of had 15 events going. easy to miss when you're coming home from work and jumping on head first right into incursions and it's events. Everything except battlepass event gets lost in the mix
would be nice if all members had the ALB as well.. even if they missed another one
@cosmic steeple
TLDR version pls… did anyone figure out why over half my alliance cannot see the TGB alb events?
because they didn't participate and receive the rewards from the first part.
I see that no where in the description and some players say they did participate in r1 and r2
that's how alliance events have always functioned, and if they scored in the previous events but don't have access to 3 and 4, they need to contact support
You got that right, I left the Apex alone this week. Even said in our AC it's been an event overload this last week.
I'm sure I read "Quality not Quantity" somewhere, or did I imagine it.
well thats gonna be a dead end.. support is not gonna mess with the outcome of that alb i presume
dont think i have ever seen so many albs linked together.. they dont get rewards when they dont participate but they are not excluded by a follow up alb ever
esp if they do participate and get one of the alb's for that round but not the other
as long as the alliance qualified they should be eligible to partake in the other rounds
but they did.. else they wouldnt score in the ship xp one afterwards.. 0_0 but then they miss the armada dmg one in their events
the albs issued what is essentially an invisible token, if you didn't participate to receive any rewards, you won't have the token to engage the next set of events
the armada and ship xp ran at the same time
today is officer xp and q hostiles
yes.. the mining one.. then u get two other albs.. the dmg armada one and the ship xp one.. i can see this guy scoring in the ship xp one but he didnt have the armada one ..
so today he has no q one
did he participate in both the armada damage and ship xp?
cant partake in albs that u dont get
he didnt see any armada one at ops 53
also dont think the eliminating part works.. if i read it correctly we shouldnt have 4 alliances for round 3 and 4 ?
SS the finished events, let's have a look.
my affected members are offline.. but anywayz a bit late in the event for it to have any effect anymore ;[
Can someone show me where it said alliance members would be removed from the event? It does say that alliances needed to be in the top 3. But I’m not finding the thing about removing alliance mates that don’t participate.
They get removed because they aren't participating, then they don't place, and therefore don't meet the requirement to get the rewards. The gauntlet events are awarding a token in the top 3 slots.
All that says is your alliance will be removed if it isn’t in the top 3… correct?
Not your alliance mates
Who stayed up for 24 hours trying to win an incursion and were passed out.
You're being rather generous Bud. I recall the qualifier and was watching for the events that never came. Far be it from me to blame the fact I was on another server running incursions at the time for my client not getting the events. Especially given that for Alliance tournaments I was also somehow on a separate server from the rest of my alliance. We all know how well those points were tabulated. So, clearly no history here on this one.
only takes 125 to do both dailies.
its not even top three though, cause both of our events still have 4 alliances, they had to place 4th in BOTH to be eliminated, which is stupid, whoever planned this event out really needs to rethink their position in event design
When your server gets caught off guard BIG time
ouch
More likely a handful of whales caught unshielded. It’s what I dislike about incursions - one or two people can lose it for the whole server. Raiding should count but not as much as it does.
thinking they just need to award dinnerplates to all the alliances that placed top 8 in the qualifiers since they borked everything with this event
raiding shouldnt count at all, docking resources from raiding should
not sure how they would code it, but im sure somewhere in the spaghetti code there is a way
that coding exists, so shouldn't be hard
but that would require them wanting to change it
the docking does, but i dont know how hard it would be to make it only count docked stuff that you got from hitting enemy server.
the way the code for docking is currently, it just checks that you docked with x resource, not where that resource was aquired from,
We were all focused on getting 1st in the armada TBG thing and didn't purge or anything on time and all of our 70s were fighting over armadas and all got caught and raided a bit
lol, we had to try doing the armadas during the incursion, so people who focused ont he incursion (and won it for us) didnt score in the alb, so no rewards and cant do todays...
I mean it was worth it in a way my alliance won the event with something like 100t point with 2nd going to a KoS alliance with 80-90t
And another thing about the events. Scopely, you need to seperate the material spen event from the solo mada event. You will actually get more people spending to win both. Plus it gives a chance for mostly ftp to actually win an slb
I used to win or at least place well in those solo mada slbs because i normally save them up and use them as needed. And also there are just way too many fkr events happening in a row. And get off your heroic sms events. This last arc you had 5 running at the same time. Is there another way you can just scream pay to win? Are you that desperate for money from your hoghest grossing game?
Yes
Turkey bowl sounds good, except when several members in the alliance don't have the event showing, they can't score, how the heck are people supposed to do an event that not all the alliance members have?
If they didn’t participate in the previous rounds they won’t see current rounds
Which was never actually made clear by scopely or the events themselves… But good to know if future events return like this..
I like it means no freeloaders
It means scopely are incompetent for not being able to provide even basic information. Nothing else
Eh to each their own. Doesn’t negate we should have been informed and then people could decide or plan accordingly. Been a busy few days between holiday and incursions and all
But yes what jawarrior said lol
You have to take into consideration some people have jobs or things to do that stops them getting on the game for periods of time, not everyone will play daily and garbage like this screws them and their alliance when Scopely run events like this. But as per Scopely hide behind a wall and avoid admitting they screwed up and fixing their garbage.
When you get the exact amount of trial bells to finish an sms, and try on a too hard target. And miss last tier of rewards bcs you miss one start.
I play every day and didn't see any of these events pop up. Many people including myself despise incursions and only do the bare minimum of events during them, so incredibly rude to run a starting event during incursions, excluding people from participating for their alliance in the days after. Especially since there was zero announcement that this event would run. Major thumbs down scopely.
You should be able to get some daily?
Had my daily and Ex Borg FT Exchange didn’t give any
Gift section should always give some daily unless you have max capactiy
Everybody was at max capacity after the gift.
right but after you use them all you can then go claim the daily since you're no longer at max
You are right. I am still at 147 but need 6 starts. Once I go below a stock of 75, I get the bells. Thanks JaW and CD.
We have this issue with the current albs but it one of our players was online during incursions and still did jot get it
She did the armada alb but not the ship xp event
Half our player shield durimg incursions and take a day off. Cant blame them. It's boring event now. And g3 and g4 player can't really run armadas in incursions as it's a bit risky and they don't score enough damage. It's g6 solos that score big. If too many events are run during incursions then why run incursions, our ability to do everything is not there.
Check your past ALB logs and compare the players in today's ALB.
It looks like if anyone in an alliance has not done any of the ALB's, it appears they get locked out of the linked ones.
I have the same issue with some players of my alliance.
I have participated in all of the ALB's and I can see all the ones for today.
that does not make sense at all.. since we still have 4 alliances competing .. and the token is only for the top 1 spot.
or they did some .. the event is broken as it is because the 4 th placing alliance should have been eliminated last round but is still competing ..
the starting event was before incursion.. and thats just to qualify .. after that members should not be falling out.. scopely messed up and thats it. and this mechanic is mentiond nowhere and we had no LINKED ALB's before.. we had SLB's but not alb.
but why are they even linked .. theres no mention of it anywhere
I am only going off on who participated in my alliance. I am trying to share information I was given.
Since there is members of my alliance who can't even see our current ALB's
its a unmentioned mechanic if they drop ppl from competing in other alb's // cause scopely never thought ppl actually might take a day off from the game with incursions ?
They don’t always mention everything so you must be new
To me, it’s just another cash grab. We had a huge lead in r1 and r2 and there was no need for everyone to spend everything just to participate. Knowing Scopely, they would follow up with another event using the same materials and you’d need to buy. So many saved them in case they were needed. Not knowing that that would remove them from rewards or participation. It’s not a good look IMO.
im not.. but that doesnt stop us form calling them out on their bull everytime they do it ?
@worldly dune I think it's you have to do all the events to get the next one. If your out of ships to upgrade one could easily skip it or if your out of lat. G3 players would struggle the most as everything they have is probably already leveled up this somewhat limits participation and f2p are less likely to spend lat on leveling ships as that gets expensive especially if like me you lost 3.5 million lat accidentally instant repairing a g5 ship. Notification came up but a pre click registered as the game responds so slowly these days.
Is anyone having players not score or see the events? One of alliance members is missing the R4 event he can see the R3 event though.
That's 100% okay if it's stipulated in the event rules. The inaugural Turkey event has turned into a turkey slap, though. 🦃😂
On the bright side, with so many complaints, I'm sure there will be a half-baked compo chest coming out next week 😉
@desert laurel @manic kernel @bitter snow We will never win another Incursion with this player and 1 other on our server just giving away trillions of points
Look on the bright side. Two of our rogues sell us out in every event 😓🤣
Sorry, there i no bright sde for us on this one. We do gret onevery other ALB, SLB, but Incursion is a bust
Likewise 😓
He's not the Messiah. He's a naughty boy 😂
Scopely will "NEVER" step up and do the right thing, even when hese players spend money
Do you mean "don't spend"? They lurve spenders 🤗
The main player spends. Actually claimed at one point in the past year or so that they took over the account froom their deceased selves, claiming to be the granddaughter. Took a screenshot and reported that but to no avail
Okay - get you now. Our rogues just want everyone to fail because they don't want to abide by server rules. Arbitrary construct, I know but an agreed construct...
I just got a warning for "naming and shaming"
A lot of our alliance members can’t see the events. 23 of us carried it to first and 2nd yesterday and now a ton can’t see today’s events to help. Instead of the lowest alliance being eliminated it looks like non scoring players were eliminated
You have two unpalatable options:
Continue to ostracize roguish players, and lose incursions.
Invite them into your roe discussions, and give them more sway over the rules.
Already done twice @desert laurel . They were invited into the top server alliance, and they refuse to discuss anything. It's a no win situation
<@&509690795536941056> There is a problem with the Turkey Bowl events. It isn’t populating for everyone in the alliance. Same alliance, two different players, two different sets of events.
Someone needs to do something about this. Multiple players cannot score in an alliance event.
if you have not scored in the previous runs, the current ones won't show up
Why would it show one event but not the other?
as I said
one guy has neither
so he did not score in either of the ALBs it seems
I scored in them. I still don’t have it.
you sure? cause so far its the only constant I've seen with people who have them and people who don't
Yes. I’m sure.
can you send screen?
Navigate to the finished events section, and click on this stats button of the R1 events. Use the dropdown to show My Alliance Members, and SS the results there.
Did solo Dominion armadas count for the ALB?
did you score?
thats what we wanna know
I had limited time. Did one. Shows no score for me.
so you did not score and therefore do not have the event
🤣 Yes Top 50 in raiding
wasn't responding to you lol, but great job
Apparently not. I will have to go back and talk to whomever told me Solo Armadas counted.
borg solo counted for me
@supple token @cosmic steeple why does trophy store has a cooldown?
I think
Tried to find a battle report but after grinding for CoW, I don’t have it.
Cause Scopely hates the player base.
I don’t think it did.
says any armada and I clearly remember it scoring
maybe you were too late?
as you said you had limited time
Idk. Or I got #Scolied.
I had limited time cause I was at a family function for Thanksgiving.
i only did 3 solos for the armada damage event, they scored, the events still show up you can scroll all the way to the right, open them, and check My Alliance points to see if you scored
ship might not have gone or any other reason
what does the Messiah have to do with this?
Here too, did score in the first one .. didn’t count in the second one and now have only 3 q trails and no 4. But now there is no Alb for me
Made a ticket but no response yet
This was said in our AC. It needs to be said here too.
The only event I've seen this happen on, which isn't also explicitly stated, is the CoW event.
I believe that if you don't score in at least one or every event stage, you don't get the rewards. Can't exactly remember the mechanics but each event should be 100% transparent on how it scores...
yup, this clearly shows its not just a "didn't do round 1 and 2", your screenshots showed you contributed and thus should've gotten R3 and R4. scopely bugs as usual
<@&509690795536941056> we are having the same issue with not all members seeing the turkey bowl ALB
These are the only events I see
None of my 18 Q trials counted to this alleged ALB. None of the officer xp i spent counted either.
Considering my alliance is fighting for 1st in both events. This is problematic
#You'reReallyThatSurprised? 👀
Oh not surprised at all. But very annoyed
? They did manage a champagne party in the Kingdom Centre in Saudi, tho. I was there with my Stella but got destroyed by some mega-Eclipse hostiles, though 🥵🤣
You know what’s funny? I used to half ass play an alt account. Sometimes I wouldn’t score on that account the first day of CoW. I’d log in the second or third day, hit a hostile, and get all of the rewards. The coders of this game are absolutely clueless and useless.
how can u explain my alliance who was topscorer in yuesterdays alb has no final alb today ????????
I'm still surprised any player of this game is remotely shocked nothing really works. I've read shakespeare written by infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters and been less bored by going to see an actual play 😂
Your alliance don't have any alb ? Or is it just you ?
my topscorer from yesterday has no alb
we made it to the finals
but it seems now that albs dissapearing is pretty random
Hmm sounds weird
or a reset fixed it now
Well it will only disappear if you haven't participated
was getting worried here
now we only face not one but two whale alliances for a pvp alb
very nice
Hostile option there 😎
Believe it or not, I quit about five months ago, asked for my account to be deleted several times in-game and on Scopely site and guess what? I gave up and came back for the banter 🤣🤣
But, it shouldn't. There's nothing in ALB or SMS events that says you need to participate in every stage 😕
Should have informed people yup
Last ALB is grinding hostiles, I'm glad they fixed the targeting issue before releasing the event. Oh wait
At least we agree there 👍
I aint that worried tho free loaders 😂 got kicked
Id say there is a way to get Scopely’s attention, but I got chat banned the last time I said something about it.
Do waves even better there 🤣
Nice to chat. Rest easy, all 🖖👋
yeah if u can outrun everyone
Yes gonna be hard atleast 2nd one is good aswell 3rd good too not as much as 1st or 2nd
and the lag is terrible too - to make it easier to do
I wana say it was STUPID to force one event on swarms with so high score. 50 system has players fron 40s to 70.
And this time I will not change stupid for any other words!
scope u need to cease incursions cause the lag makes doin anything impossible
They should have done the pvp in swarm space too 😂
did scopely master game designers realize that the last turkey bowl event lasts as long as the corresponding event store?
I am not sure what I did wrong but I haven't seen any of the ALB events. I don't remember missing any qualifiers
Has anyone brought up the fact that if you score in the Al B and get first place event store dissappear at the same time you get your Rewards
scrolled up and didn't see any mention of it
@cosmic steeple ?
Ah i see its been asked in #🌌-galaxy-chat
Does anyone know if incursions will finish when maintenance takes place tomorrow or will it continue after maintenance and have we got a chance ships getting stuck in on the wrong server?
Well dont think scopely has ever done maintanance during incursion so some might get lucky and get free server switch 🤷♂️
You never know what your gonna get when it comes so Scopely
Scopely What you need to do is less new events, less new ships and update the rewards to the players level Most of the current event rewards are obsolete for most players
Server 74 here, Lag is so bad that Incurions are narly unplayble!
@waxen valley Quit adding more junk until you actually fix what has been broken for 3 yeare (at least)! We don't need more ships or officers, we need you to address the issues that have been reported for years!
soooo...turkey bowl alb today....i and a few of us don't have it, but some of my alliance does...what's up with that
The growing "theory" is that if you didn't score in yesterdays events, then you don't see todays events. Even though it is an alliance event. In other words, Scopely either screwed up the coding or is sticking it to the player base....again.
Wait until they tell us that we asked for this type of event.
The best thing to do would be to NOT put out new event meta during a holiday weekend. It's hard to rememebr when ANY new major game thingy has not had issues. Not sure how they don't know that.
They don't care. They want their money and that is it. My wallet closed last month because I cannot support their atrocious attitude toward the players who make this game fun. Scopely hasn't made it fun for years now.
OOOOooohhh!!!!! But wait! Have you seen the new non-canon ship??? you want it. You waaaaaant iiiiiit....
Check you math scopley!!! The finals end in 12 hours AS DO the ability to turn in the loot!!!
Please please punish the alliances who managed to make it to them end
(The following program is closed captioned for the sarcasm impaired). I'm really excited about the new stuff. We don't have nearly enough specialty ships. But it's good that they prioritize fixing bugs and performance problems before the consistent stream of new ships and specialty armadas and new currencies. And I'm thrilled to know that their crack technical team is fixing the horrific lag problems in the arena.
Any idea why I don't see Turkey Bowl event when the rest of my alliance does?
cause scopely programmed it where if you miss participating in one of the previous albs, it doesnt give you the new one. cutting down on the number of alliance members that can participate each day
also, @cosmic steeple how are we supposed to spend the tokens from the final when the store closes at the same time as the event ending?
That's... dumb. I thought an ALB was just an ALB.
Yeah there was nothing in the announcements indicating that each individual player had to score in each ALB to continue. Very deceptive and frustrating.
Yeah the store closed before we get our last turkey plate
<@&509690795536941056> why are we finishing (or rather, not finishing) this so called "thanks" event with a giant middle finger?? Big grind, with a ship nobody ever uses anymore and thus underlevelled and all that during a bloody incursion thats to add insult to injury running on a workday?!?!
Some Member don‘t have „Truthahnkegeln Finale“ (Sorry, don’t know how the wording is in English. Could be thanksgiving event finals).
We can’t win, if they can’t participate
you don't need to use the franklin
<@&509690795536941056> you guys do know that the final for the ALB for the Thanksgiving event (which awards 2 turkey tokens) end the exact same time as the event store right?
Maintenance during incursions, you guys really thought this out...bet you going put up peace shields too...
If arenas are going to be weekly then fix the bloody matchmaking like crap it’s +/- 7 I’m 62 started arena opponent was ops 70 that’s + 8 can anyone at scopely do maths don’t think so
+/- 7 is squad level limit, not matchmaking range.
matchmaking is now almost entirely average ops of the squad.
a 70-63-56 squad will have an average of 63, just like a 62-63-64 squad for example.
to get more fair fights, spread your squad's ops level a bit.
and the farther you spread out, the higher the chance that an unfair matchup is in your favor.
if your squad is all around the same ops level, an unfair matchup will always be unfavorable to you.
To make it fair sand. It should be by the strength level of the ships. And not by the level of operations. They should force you to only go with two ships. And it depends on the strength level of the ships, this is how the pairings should be made
Hey great job to interfer the base raidings with a maintenance and following peace shields
They didn't score in the previous event so they don't have the event you have now.
@supple token can we get a QOL button for Artifact Refinery? refining 1, 5, 20 each time is becoming a pain.
Oh really? 😲
maintenance during inc? Nice ooof
Yep it's 💩, our servers alliances also report it
the + button should be on EVERY refinery option where you can pull multiples
They are giving us the quality they promised us, Scopely, being scopely 💩 💩 💩
We have mir member who see it only at his pc, not on iPad or mobile. So I was not sure, if you have to score before 😕
That might be another issue I haven't heard about yet.
Nice just over 4 hours of incursion left and everyone has a 4 hour gold shield. Compensation for those servers affected please
Compensations is junk anyways...why maintenance in the first place!!!
Thank you scopley, for shortening our incursion 4 hours (shields) and 1.5 hrs for maintenance - why did you even run it?
Scopely ruined incursion, results cant be ratified, all incursions between 1st-2nd of december must be set as draw 😡
@supple token Hey mate, the turkey event store close in that time when the last ALB finishes. You will extend the time for it?
Thanks for the win scopely! This was a very close incursion and now 84 does not have a chance! They were making a comeback and now everyone is shielded.
I was just about to raise the same issue
maintenance overrun messed with my alliances territory defence, wasn't able to max out this weeks points. only needed 7 more minutes on each of my ships
Are you serious were trying to win a incursion
Than you give peace sheilds to everyone
Are you that dense
That was the last one I'm participating in
Kept getting stuck in battle
Or game crashed after my base was hot
What a joke
So, no ceasefire shield in level 20+?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤬
Well done Scopely. We're all proud of you
🤣
Thats Scoplay... for incursion all player peaceshield... love peace and lets look into the tube 😂🫣🤣🥳
Yup, I'm never playing Incursions again.
Scopely, you can schedule downtime maintenance 24/7 and you still won't be able to fix stupid.
Another ship oh how lucky can we be
yea thanks to the Scopely Muppets now even unprotected stations have a peace shield till the end of incursion.
Scopely, my question is, when are you going to release the continuum for non-whale players?
So they ran maintenance during an incursion event and also arena on the apac servers. That's some quality scheduling
Why would people in 20+ systems get a peace shield after maintenance?
... and why such a long shield eating into Incursions time?
What a farce...
Scopley love Asian servers 😍🤣
Yup, gotta love it 
@supple token has the issue with the thanksgiving bowl token turn ins ending at the same time as the final ALB been acknowledged/escalated?
Already asked but waiting for answer
Yeah, a lot of people have been asking, myself included... but unless you're in the VIP server, you gotta make a lot of noise around here to get problems to be acknowledged
@supple token you guys do know that the final for the ALB for the Thanksgiving event (which awards 2 turkey tokens) end the exact same time as the event store right?
It was confirmed earlier that the store is going to be extended
ty for fast responce great news
You’re welcome, I’m not a Scopely employee so I don’t have the built-in 2 day delay
I hope we get an extension on event store. We have events awarding tokens at same time event store for them ends. 🤦🏽♂️
Ok, I just saw the above response
But is there an official announcement
Everyone has asked, but of course scopely are to afraid to admit they messed up and fix it. Much easier to hide in silence then say anything
How does it work 🫣 The timer is Not illogical 😂 I get event turkey tokens, but can not use
store will be extended
Some if our alliance members cannot see turkey bowl event. Did individual players need to ‘qualify’ to see subsequent events?
so you need to score in the ALB for the subsequent events to show up
Ok well that explains why so few people scoring here on day 4
Cool , Thank you
Thanks for extending the Thanksgiving store to use the tokens that lower ops didn’t actually get because you gave an unreasonable sms requirement via q trials that physically could not be completed 🖖
I am trying to figure out how I do not qualify for rewards for the ALB final. Without my scoring in previous rounds my alliance might not even be IN the event, but because I was busy one day of a three day tiered event, I do not get the rewards for helping my alliance get to the event in the first place??
It was fun being excluded from half of my alliance leader boards lol
how about something for doing maintenance during inc???? even if you just say sorry...its a start...yikes you greedier and greedier
So much fun, each time matched against same arena team. 6th time now. When you are on the loosing end.
So they are back to work, have they acknowledged the issues with the ALBs?
...so when will arena matchmaking make, you know, proper matches between teams? Even by Scopely standards, this is bad.
Aaaaaand it's grinding to a halt, nice going!
not to mention the bugs
Almost impressed by the new bugs we keep finding
Absolutely disgusting, shame on you Scopely.
Congrads 176. We didn't have a chance because of couple of whales that couldn't be bothered to shield. There should be consequences or some sort of grading My alliance worked it's socks off for nothing. My point being is. What was the point for our whole server to be let down by something out of our hands I await to trolled lol!
ouch guy in our alliance just rage quit over not getting PIE for our win when they didnt contribute , rough day
I wont rage quit, but never had must do 2 events same day to qualify for 2 events next day. Scopley won.
Its brutal in my alliance right now
only 17 of us scored and we won by a huge amount but so only 17 of us get the reward and many of our top guys didnt do anything , im afraid we are going to win this tourney and then lose half our alliance
@raven dragon How it should be
It should be more clear though
it wasnt very clear , as opposed to cruicible of war taht plainly says you wont get rewards if you dont score
I would have appreciated just a small *participate in all events to carry over
I was 3rd in our points so i got my PIE but it would have been nice for it to be a lot more clear
Raised the issue that it should have been better communicated in the announcement, but I do like that format as too many get carried but hopefully next time people will be aware
I thought it was track 1 or track 2, so pounded hard track 1 & ignored track 2 lol
Ah yes congratulations s53 it was fun (not really)
I mean we are already discussing that going forward people should assume they must contribute and we will remind people but its rough even for those of us that ground all day so we would win to find out most of us are getting nothing
this mechanic bones the one grinding their behind off even harder .. offc no one participates during incursion.. its an event where half the server takes a day off.
@cosmic steeple we do not want to see this mechanic any longer if it means u lose half ur alliance participating because of ur awful incursion planning
I ground all day yesterday for half my alliance to be angry about it today , lose lose
Also, its a holiday - it should be a good natured event that carry’s everyone
We as you speak for everyone?
so in a group alliance event those of us terminally online couldnt win it for the people who have families and were on holiday , kind of the antithesis of group event
everyone who dislikes it 😉 but scopely doesnt care.. they introduce these things by player demand offcourse.
I suppose that we do need to keep the whales happy. Did any others that participated notice while looking for bases to hit in the lower levels. Just how few new players there is?
Let’s stop complaining about arena and instead complain about bookmarks
Thats always a thing, people that don’t bother to shield. We have them on 181 😂 but i still had some fun.
It was an alliance event, they should contribute all the time. If people were cut out for not participating I can only see it being fair. It's team event not leachers event.
Im one of the ones that won it for my team , i didnt grind all day so half our alliance could be excluded , we won by almost 100 k points over the next alliance
the other alliance is who should feel bad not our members
Jeebus forbid that people spend time with family during a heavily family oriented holiday. A holiday period where most if not all Scopely employees who could have said or done something about it in a timely manner were also….. not around.
Also why cant the terminally online guys like me win it for the people with families since we are a GROUP an ALLIANCE
I doubt any of you saying hurr hurr it should be this way won the entire thing like we did
Where are my rewards from the events?incursion,etc,etc,etc.
who cares....why was there maintenance during said inc......we have the power to drain fast and couldnt because of shields....cmon
oh gee, im sorryyou spent all that money on ship and officer upgrades to drain faster, (not limmited to)... but we gave you pretty shields to look at....that's crooked
Maintenance during incursions, bp event not counting all points correctly, by the looks of some of these comments even more than that going on? Oof....
Ouch
<@&509690795536941056> I tried opening a ticket to try to find out why I was excluded from the ALB events despite not missing any event I had open to me any day. They just closed it and said basically "you probably didn't contribute". I know I did. How do I proceed? The lag in support makes it impossible to prove anything on the user side.
You needed to claim the reward from the previous round to get into the next round.
As far as I know I did. There were no events I remember seeing and skipping
If you didn’t mine rss, spend ship xp, start armadas and spend officer xp, then you were excluded. It stinks but that’s the way it goes.
We only had 43/100 in the final alb event.
Just saying maybe the event selection criteria didn't work as expected?
pinged ya
How do you have a 54 lvl and 65 lvl in the same arena match???
on the same team if someone 58-61 hosts
So we are matching gold rank to silver rank now? Is this part of more improved matchmaking?
well this sucks, apparently me and an alliance mate have already hit the MAX level, rank and points you can get in arena????????? WTH!!!!
@loud solar ^^^^ the best funnest thing to STFC just got totally buzz killed for me
Yup, that's the top. I'm curious if they're gonna to change it up
i certainly hope so, gotta throw a match or lose one just to get the satisfaction of gaining again lol
Why not? Let the ruff riders ride to the top
Remove arenas at this point. Useless and trash limited time event.
Completely broken
Matchmaking still sux. And zero care. No surprise
and see on my end, matches have been extremely balanced for the most part last 2 weeks, more so this week i find
seems to be a sweet spot but you need to get someone with good pvp skills at the high end of your range and someone at bottom end of your range but still good at pvp
im a 54 ops, i get a 61 ops with crazy good pvp tech and skills, and then lower end 47 ish thats good at pvp/speedy
but sometimes we facing 64-65 ops players that we just have to hope our 61's FC/FT/Research is better then the 64 or we get railed lol
There will be some anomalies where I just take the 400 credits and move on.
Have not had that in 3 weeks. Pretty pleased on that.
ive hadf to reboot game quick when match making goes on, sometimes glitches doesnt show who you're vs but once i restart game it shows and loads fine
Arena matching is still garbage. Paired with teams we have zero chance of defeating. Great job dopely
Maintenance again.
only this combination works and rank doesn't matter at all. a decent +7 OPS PVP and a -7 OPS filler.
Ain't fun. It's crap.
Need to get rid of the 7 tiers up function on arenas absolutely mental that a an ops 65 can be in the same arena as an ops 59 hopefully a bit of fine tuning can get this event to where it’s should be . Every arena I’m getting domed by players I can’t even scratch I find it very hard to believe there isn’t players across numerous servers closer to my level
hope for a cut between g4 g5 and g6... no player lv 40-50schould be play against 56+... same in 50th...
they can tune it open serverwide for join, 3 or 5 member, if a lv 40-50 open no 51 or above can join and can be on the other team... same in 51 to 60... its giving chances to smaller player dosnt forget the wales amd give midplayer a good chance for a good game...
it isnt funny if you have a very good pilum as lv 50 and the opponent player comes with sanctus/sompec 5-6 times bigger... i can win against low 56 player (ops raiser) but not if that player pushes a bit more power.
They really need to change it from Mining Monday and make it run Longer. Arena......
How are people feeling about the new event schedule? I'm variously optimistic. Having an official schedule is great, and if the SLBs have a decent bracketing instead of the stupid 28-49 one then it's already a massive improvement. I am worried that lower ops levels don't have the artifact or fleet commander sourcing for an SMS every other day, and that the Tuesday q trials don't list an alternate scoring for people that haven't cleared 1*.
I think I need to see the monthly meta event and how strict it is about finishing each day's SMS events, which we'll know in a few hours.
New "daily" event set won't start til tomorrow. Today will continue the old set.
Will we see the new monthly and weekly events today, or is that also starting Wednesday?
wednesday is the start of the new events
Awkward but good to know
After tomorrow's emergency maintenance 😂
Do we know if the SLB bracketing is improved at all?
As always, Scopely does the opposite of what it says. Do you want quality? Well, I'll give you quantity. More paid stuff, but so that no one says that Scopely does nothing, a video that no one wants to see.🤣
Seems fair
59 vs 11b cube🤣
What happened to vindicator and Cerritos day
My experience is that after exceeding lvl 57 I always got matching with 61,63,66. They should do some more tweaking. After reducing the number of participants to 3 its more important to have more balanced matching as one unbeatable ship with speed crew will clear all. Not to mention the lag that makes all even harder.
Matchmaking is based on teams average ops. Lower the average ops of your team, should help a bit.
An ops 60 can team with a 53 and 46, makes the team average 53.
New ship is F2P... u saw that, right?
I haven't said anything about the ship.
Nice math again on the new event 🤣
Thx Eco
I actually don't think we can blame Eco this time.
It's a new arc.
🤣
anyone else thinks these milestones are way too high for anyone without the new ship? <@&509690795536941056>
yeah i just worked out i need around 250 kills and need to be selective on what i hit too..
especially these hostiles are crazy strong and you need to hit 2 systems below your lvl
even with the new ship its almost impossible cause of the dang warp range of the ship <@&509690795536941056>
<@&509690795536941056> I need to kill 609 hostiles to do the el aurian sms. But insane ain’t it….
thats a big fat lie, looool
Yup, they made it too high for those without ship. Maybe even with, I dunno.
agreed, total trash scoring matrix
they ought to add at least one 0 to these scores my goodness
@versed osprey I need to kill 380 lvl 52 hostiles to be able to get an epic officer piece in the shop 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We go about 3 hours for a piece
Also, not a single event that isn't paid for. This game is getting better and better.
Please stop scaling events considering people have the special ship. That's one trip, and it's going to take me 5 to complete it.
even with the new ship it won't be doable for many
the warp range suuuucks on it
@fiery fulcrum Please tell me the level and type of boat
and how much did you spend on a new boat
tell me a solution
to do it in 5 min
I didn't spend a cent. I said it will take me 5 trips.
@fiery fulcrum Ok. And I asked you what level and ship you use. And hostiles you kill.
Let's see if it's true. And the whole servet is wrong
took me 2 full hulls on my sanctus vs 52s
Yea looking like two or three hulls of the sanctus on 52s here as well
why are you attacking him like that lol
@versed osprey tell me how expert
?
Which is....a pain
@versed osprey you don't have an answer?
For one your crew
again, why are you attacking us?
calm down
@versed osprey I don't attack, I ask.
there are sooo many other ways to ask
But here all of you who say it is very easy do not say how.
- Use an ops appropriate ship.
- Learn how to crew.
- If all of the above fails spend more money.
- If you can't do 3 then just quit and move on with your day.
I never said it was easy
T4 level 20 Sanctus with Metreon Cascade FT and level 52 hostiles and 30 kills (more or less) per trip
for me it takes about 250 kills with the new ship lol
@versed osprey You don't say anything. You just say that it's easy and nothing more. Things are proven, you don't brag about them without proving them.
232 lvl 52 hostile lmfao. So sick of this thoughtless brain dead design
pls show me where I said it was easy
few purchases here and there and you have no problems with the sms 😂
Great way to start off the arc
Could be worse.
Could have made it so that only kills with the new ship count.
@neon badge Well, there are those who say they can do it in 5 minutes and without spending money.@fiery fulcrum
Your reading comprehension is whack lmao
@normal osprey If that weren't enough, it's the only event that doesn't cost money.
🤣🤣🤣
@next tendon you don't have an answer?
@versed osprey I confused a text from you with one from another. Sorry if I said something that bothered you.
do the continuum directive timers reset with ship tier?
he did not say he could do it in 5 mins, he said it would cost him 5 trips
I wish I could do it in 5 min 🤣
only 1 guy out of a dozen said he could do it in 2 trips
I mean....if you earn enough money it might only be 5 mins of work 🤣
sure, but even if you buy the new ship it takes ages (for me at least)
warp range only lets me go to 56
What happens if you max the ship and research though?
and that is with both warp lvls
probably will change, but I ain't buying upgrade packs
Don't worry, you'll have 5 more specialy ships minimum by then
25 trips for my rare ship.
Going to take me a week to do it… 😀😜
@fiery fulcrum Don't edit the text. You said 5 min. But I'm still waiting if you can tell me your level and the ship you kill and the ship you use. To verify that you can do it without spending and thus help everyone. It would be appreciated.
even if he accidentally said it, going by the screenshot its obviously not what he meant
I never said 5 min
on a positive node nothing in the event shop is worth the effort of the sms
<@&509690795536941056> can we have a reaction about the el aurian event??
@fiery fulcrum You didn't connect the other things either. like level and ship
Dude, go read. Yes I did.
I get very tired of people here complaining and coming to say it's easy and fast and not proving anything.
Never said it's fast or easy
everyone thinks its difficult/impossible so get that idea out of your head
no one said it was easy
@fiery fulcrum I didn't even see it, sorry.
Still no epic 5 star gas in choice rewards but there is 5 star epic crystal again
You don't get 5* epic in the normal BP milestones so why would it be in the choice rewards.
They "answered" your prayer by putting epic gas and ore in the refinery of the new ship. I mean why give all 3 types and let people build ships they want to build when you can force only 1 epic resource on players and drive them all towards the same ship type
With ship Scrapping most people just get the Ent-D anyways as it's the easiest to upgrade.
True but it would be nice to see variety. Basically scopelys design is drive everyone towards explorers
all three are there and give epic materials?
I already said they are being so generous and "solving" the problem by selling you a new ship
Think this new event is crazy points scoring means I've got to constantly hit ships because the points I need is over 4 million no chance of finishing
ah, I misunderstood that part
Same as last choice
Even if it was 1 each event surely it would be either epic ore or gas
How do you get new borgmada directives? One of our ops 61 players says its in his continum refine. But i dont see it. Im ops 57. Can i get more info or clarification? Thanks @cosmic steeple
<@&509690795536941056> what a surprise, yet another event store missing the Section 31 disco skin. It’s only been more or less 2 years that it hasn’t been available…at least you can buy Lorca with tps now
@cosmic steeple
Epic Gas/Ore aren't in the normal BP rewards so they won't put them in the choice rewards.
Yet epic crystal is seems off
What seems off. Epic crystal is in the normal BP rewards hence it being in the choice rewards.....doesn't seem all that complicated.
anyone figure out yet if the continuum directive timers reset with ship tier up?
It enables them to push people towards one ship type. Explorers. If you wanna build other ships pay up
I've been bashing my head into that S31 refit for months!
And still it never appears in the store. Other skins too
With Lorca being in Transporter patterns now, I think the refit is outdated enough already to be there
There is no normal rewards for bp that is what the choice rewards r for not bright r ya its ment to be same across them all yet having 1 more valuable makes no sense but meh just another let down in game
The normal bp as in the bp two months ago also had only epic crystal and no epic gas and ore
You’ve been getting more crystal than gas and ore forever , it’s nothing new
I only have 100 matrix diodes, but 2 new missions available - any idea how we get the rest of the tokens to do the missions?
Pretty much shame bp getting to be more pointless
Why does it take so long for hostiles to come out?
the event store has not been updated in months, maybe even a year. There is literally nothing for me to go after. Maybe just the officers
I started asked loooong before he was available in tps
you guys have been updating everything, besides the thing that people were most excited about
So many npc,s
So how are we met to Co. Pete this event when a lvl 30 is 1.6k and gotta get over 700k I can see a lot of players ignoring the event
You must be incredibly dense.....
The normal BP rewards outside of the choice rewards would normally have epic crystal but not have epic gas/ore, therefore the choice rewards would reflect this thus having epic crystal and not having epic gas/ore.....it's really not that complicated, the fact that I've had to say the same thing 3 times now really shows the "not that bright r ya" is all with you.
Are the 2x new borg directives usable pre-ascension?
I’d like to get the Franklin refit but the same applies - no sourcing
Yikes the El'Aurian kill numbers are.. significant arnt they
The El Aurian hostile hunt SMS is hard to complete for all ops level. We only have 24 hrs and a real life. Too much points needed, too many repairs, too many other players in the system, all trying to kill the easy interceptors... 🫣
Where did all the refineries tabs disappear to?
TheNexus is the code
sms event is stupid numbers
at least you have an sms event
id rather not have to get a 3 mill scoring 20k a kill
i hear ya. many people are going to be doing it for awhile
Is there a minimum level for the El-Aurian quest?
I think 38
Would be nice to have vindicator bps in event store….
or anything decent
Being a holiday store, making the points possible to earn for all levels would be nice
Need to kill 145 58’s for the sms? Who’s mathing this out over there? 12.5M final tier at 80,555 each 58. With a 1.3B ENT
I hope this is just an opinion otherwise having the event shop with ships and not being able to use it would make me very angry
I know it’s somewhere in the 30’s, it’s not like a 38 can complete it anyways
Normally they put events appropriate to the level so if it's not destroying El-aurians on Amargosa it's something else
There is no official word on anything, I am just reporting how it is working in game and a level 38 would have to kill 55 El-Aurians and that’s not happening
I have the event store and no events giving tokens lol
The people in mid 30’s in my alliance reported no event at all
op 34 and I don't have the el-aurian event or a replacement, hopefully they haven't abandoned the lower levels completely
interns doing the itemizing again
@everyone Has anyone got any idea how lower level players are going to source loot for the event store?
new event schedule starts tomorrow, hopefully it has something
I only see the BP event domination and mission key event. Where are the events?
if you are below ops 40 you probably wont see the event
Brought to you by lol its the small things that dont effect gameplay that make u smile
Or as seen on lol
From the website.
They are trying to force us to buy the new ship...pos scopely
THIS 💯
They be available eventually prob mid nxt year r these ships in the shows or made up think i saw mantis in 1 scene somewhere on 1 of the newer series
100 days at 2 free bp per day.
I joked about them forgetting people below ops 38, but the event schedule looks like they really did
Torture sms? 😆
One kill an then repair ship no thank you what a joke
Raised!
Oh, great, only a hundred and thirty to go. This is on a T6 Korinar with Janeway, Doc, Tucker. Pretty painful for some paltry event store currency.
Edit: also, these systems are only spawning about 8 hostiles at any given time because of the new armadas 😬
Can we get some infinitely researchable node in mirror research tree, or some other way to dump Mirror research dust to be able to score in this sms when we have all researches done?.
what are all you high ops level complaining about, I'd love any event to get some event store currency
You say that, but you'd be in the same boat if completing an event went from 5 mins with the new ship, to an hour with your old ones 🙄
I've done the event to upgrade a faction ship or kill a few hundred hostiles a few times now by killing the hostiles without complaint, only 144 enemies isn't so bad
I'm done with the vidar and don't know what to do with myself now that I don't have hundreds of borg probes to kill each day
How about when your ship costs 75M trit to repair?
"You're out of your element, Donny."
Misery
oh no, your high level ship needs your high level economy to pay for its repairs, poor you
I only have 30 billion trit right now, so that's only 400 repairs, which is rough
i have to kill 143 level 52's
You should probably use that to level up then, if you're begging for events. Just a thought...
yes, my tritanium supply will level me up and get me the ship bps and upgrades I need to do events this arc, why didn't I realize that
WOW, looks like a lot of brainstorming went into the new missions. Blew my sockies off! NOT.
@cosmic steeple any eta on event calendar?
nope, looks like scopely removed my trit to g3 resource refinery, guess levelling up isn't an option
@cosmic steeple, Has anyone got any idea how lower level players are going to source loot for the event store? Ops 20
yes, by doing what scopely really wants, spending money to get higher ops fast and get the rewards.
Lemme check.
Working on an announcement for this.
Yeah I know the feeling, but I don't think sis really wants to spend money lol
there's an event list in game, you might need to restart to get it past retrieving
Ok, Thanks, will look out for it
This SMS is ridiculous. Not only do I need to kill 150 hostiles. I'm in a system that seems to have half the hostiles it used to have with 15 other players chasing the hostiles that pop. Awesome
You laugh at the cost compared to the Rss income and remember how bad things used to be.
max hostile count drops when armadas get added
It is clear that they have reduced the frequency at which hostiles come out because this morning the hostiles came out more frequently. It is not logical.
Very true.
Not every lv38/39 has lv34 epic ship upgraded to kill 4.5mil q hostiles...seriously
So wait let me get his strait, this current patch was all about reducing grind time and click time, then it was realized they went overly heavy on event thresholds and the answer was to increase the time given to grind it out? 🤔
they didn't halve the amount of hostiles, it's exactly the same.
except that half the hostiles are now armadas.
you see this in every system with armadas.
I have to destroy 235 lvl42 ships. That would take 47 trips. Life is too short for that.
Ridiculous event
Yes, so creating a SMS with 100+ hostiles for most creates a very busy system with the now reduced number of available hostiles. "It's like this in every armada system" makes this event even stupider
i bought the ship and cant even put on my deck ????
Event was easy peasey 😉 took about a dozen trips lol but finished none the less.
i build it but cant switch
Have you updated the game
New specialty ship to kill specific hostiles launches, event on day one for killing those hostiles with milestones that would only make sense if you already had a decently tiered and leveled up version of that new ship. It's happened so many times with so many loops.
You had me then 😅 It is easy.... For me it's the excessive grind time. I don't find that fun and I wanna play for fun.
#🤝-help-each-other message had the same issue
Scopely only interested in ripping players off, 20.63m score for hostile event is ridiculous for anyone who doesn’t buy and tier the new ship
not to mention, with adding armadas in the same systems, there's now half the hostiles than were previously
A new SLB appeared. Can’t get past Retrieving even after clear localization. Anyone eyes on it?
The Harry Kim event?
My spidey senses tells me it’s a spend holiday tokens event
Yep
Can you guys pull the hostile limit?. So many people hit the cap already doing these El hostiles for the Milestone
Hostile cap does need to go, but it's 2k. El-Aurian SMS takes about 100-150. They're hitting the cap for other reasons...
The cap will just stop you getting loot not finishing the event usually
Raised to the team and we're looking into it.
Looked into this, and don't think we'll be able to change the hostile limit for this run.
We have to hit 400 at ops 48. Can’t beat anything above 42s, and those only give 1k points each.
Don’t bother, this bug is older than the way to Rome.
Ok! I'll tell the team to stop looking into it!
Holy carp! That's a lot. I know how many I'd be doing if I was 48. Rhymes with "schmero" 😄
One of my alliance guys got halfway, and with him farming XP via chasers, hit the mark
Now he can’t finish it
No doubt. I'm only doing the 3rd milestone. 3k event currency is NOT worth killing another 50-60 of them
He should be able to finish the event, just no loot
Nope. He isn’t getting points now
Really? That's a new one. Usually you just stop getting loot but can still get the kill count going
Thought to be fair, I haven't hit the cap in ages, so things may have changed
Yeah. He showed pics. No points from the last ten hostiles
That sucks. Autogrinding is a great little benefit... until it isn't
Why can’t you just drop it permanently. Anymore it’s more harm than good
140 hostiles I need 500 you sir are lucky
I'm looking into getting it lowered for the next run but don't have an update. Best I can do today, is extended time and an extra SMS.
Better off scrapping the event, as per normal scopely updates ruining the game
Wow... there is literally over 50 player ships competing for the level 40 El Aurian hostiles. This should be fun.... NOT.
Anyone not showing the el-aurian sms? I'm ops 37... also there's an slb that just said "retrieving"
Retrieving is a 'spend event credits' sms.
38 and under events start tomorrow
Haven't spent any so not sure if it will score though.
Another pay to play loop with the QC!!! When will this be added to the archives coz we're not falling for it again?!!
Am I the only one feeling let down by the new release?
When is the next incursions? This pay to play 💩 is getting out of hand. So, whoever my server goes against in the next incursions gets the pleasure of raiding my base. ( I can’t stand the people in the server I am in and they aren’t getting my 💩) Then after that I am done
"Extending the time to complete" is that serious? Reduce the required milestones by a factor 10! Making this a multiple day event next run isnt gonna do anything
do we know if they are extending THIS el-auren event, or only future instances of it? i.e. is it best to wait until after reset tomorrow to kill el-auriens so they score for the new extra event, and this current event (if extended)
One Type 03 directive and doesnt even give you enough for a single pull. Be nice if they gave a few directive if you bought the new ship
op 38 now look at the calandar and if your bellow that you dont get any of those events or any event curency
then reevaluate your relationship with scopely
I m ops 57 and found the El auroan event easy 60 L56(do 100 in one run with JW Doc edata(Torres Kim neelix chapel) and metreon cascade for crits) but then I don't rush ops
But I have alliance members having a hard time ( 600 hostiles with 10 per run)
Does everyone else’s event store look weak? Merry Christmas 😂
I like my event store, I just wish I had some events to earn the currency for it
Follows the trend of giving us less and less while expecting us to pay more and more
event store needs projectiles. Money shop needs to bring limited time projectiles back
event wouldn't even be as brutal for me if the explorers and battleships were as easy as the interceptors
That's coming tomorrow!
just to be clear, ops 38+ gets event store currency from the revenant events and also the new event schedule tomorrow, while below 38 only gets it from the new event schedule tomorrow? why don't low levels have replacement events for the store currency granting events?
FT spend? Galactic Invasion? Advanced Development?
@cosmic steeple any idea if there will be new ships in the Cosmic Cleanup with the revamp of weekly events?
Just wait and trust us bro , get in the van its totally safe.
Great question!
Don't get in the van bro! Bro! The events are coming!
Why not have a way for lower peopel to do these events , why isnt it kill probes with Vdar for sub 38s , and somethign else for sub 25s , It gives the event store currency why do we have to be excluded at all
The event store sucks not missing much.
Lower players still need loads from it 😦 and we are excluded from even participating
I want to grind until my fingers bleed for a mediocre reward also please
Mediocre would be an improvement
This arc is for ops 40+ i seem to recall it was announced. They were excluded the previous arc for some events as well.
every arc is 40 plus
If they dont want new people to play their game they should stop running advertisments
yeah also if i recall right 30-40 have already stella, borg, defiant, titan, borg cube, voyager, cheritos, data grinds to focus on. Plus their faction reputation and ships
Im on a pre ascension server also cant even be 40 plus so i should get excluded on the events this month for having the audacity to start on a newer server
Ohh cant do Vdar grind today either the refinery tab is gone
then thats one grind less
previous arc, events had options for lower ops like fkr hostiles instead of the new ones, or had alternate events, instead of nothing at all
Already done them all for the day , none of that is relevant to them hosing us on event store currency by not even allowing a way to do this , its half the events on the calandar
Then you deserved some off screen time ;')
No just kidding, i truely hope ops < 40 will get a chanse to get their FC slot unlocked
Ya off forever ,
So many people complaining about El aurian difficulty that nobody has bothered to complain about the fact that it awards 6k event tokens which is enough for 22 rare 5* mats or ONE mayflower bp (yes I know there are other options but those are examples)..... Event store economy is jacked.
if this is how people feel that new players deserve to get nothing and scopely treat them the same way then enjoy your dying game. You need new players also
also its not just the 6k from this one, but the total from all the events that have no alternative
I'm level 60 and I have my fc slot already.
QOL for new players has dramatically improved. This event is really unfortunate.
at ops 34 I can get 6 of the 38s in one hull of my tier 5 enterprise, if I had the event I would absolutely do that grind
Even if you had to kill 112 or 224 of them? Some players in my alliance are talking about killing 500-600 to complete.
I've done the grind for the Military Supremacy event multiple times, and I no longer need to grind hundreds of borg probes each day
Also (I'm assuming) you're probably paying attention to the ship triangle. On my server I've watched several players get their azzes handed to them for hitting cross triangle.
Then that hostile is much weaker and the next player thinks that THEY can hit cross triangle and THEY get the free trip home.
El-Aurians are much less forgiving than Freebooters and booters aren't very forgiving.
all six battleships were full health, using the severus crew
I'm impressed.
This right here 6k X the 15 events on the calandar is 90 k event store currency sub op 38s wont get , im supposed to be happy about that ?
#🏆-event-chat message @raven dragon maybe sleep one day and check back on it
i already set my miners on 12 hour jobs and shielded and logged out of the game
but if its like this when their just wait for tomorrow bro stuff drops im just dropping alliance and telling them to vault me
no sense staying for a game that treats new players this way
Not mine but I'll share. I completed event in one run with cheerio buff and Max fort and I'm not a spender.
Hey Scopely, why don't the 20s and 30s accounts have an event store token event today? They need those tokens more than I do
Chargback the last 30 days on the credit card and wash my hands of this game
Next arc for god sake please give ops 40+ nothing to do the first day.
Bro please redownlaod that gif its too cooked
Thought you were leaving....
I said when i check back tomorrow
Im not done venting here today
You ignore the relevant part , if they leave things the way they are now
I don't care enough to continue this.
Ya read better next time
I read just fine. Thanks. Maybe learn to spell.
try working on context then since you read so well but missed the point
thought you were done
Do you know if they've asked for more/better stuff in the event store since it's a bit lackluster at the moment.
dunno, but im about to ask, lol
Thank you.
The number of hostiles to kill for this event is beyond stupid. Every statement of reducing grind is an out right lie. Reduce one, multiply a new one. Aweful if you want to ftp an event
I thought the y did with this arc. And the one before that.
And this is there response to us complaining about difficulty? I see no extensions in time to complete and they are ADDING another one?
where can i find?
starts in amargosa
@sleek zenith at least you got an event store currency event.
every new ship event is the same, you can't kill the hostiles your own level, without massive repair bills, unless you buy the new ship, so you have to grind 100's to get the same reward. People complain each time, yet, it happens over and over. I'm playing less and less, my server is dying, population is one of the lowest on the EU. 🤷🏻
good crew for my g5 battleship? loot crew doesn’t work to well
You get more loot from the loot boxes than the hostiles themselves.
I suggest using a crew that you can max out damage and mitigation. Janeway synergy works, and having e-data on the side for some extra damage
hull breach and hugh for criticals
should work well? ihave hugh as well
Doesn't snw Spock work on a Explorer?
@cosmic steeple SS Augur?
But you are missing out on his officer ability...
Change SNW Spock to SNW Ortegas and target Explorers
Question has anyone try and use a regular ship on the new solo armadas or is it better to use tier 1 of the new ship
I saw people do the group one with normal ships and new one. unless you own the new ship its kind of pointless as you cant use the currency etc
That I do endorse for early game loot.
Make sure the one revenant hosting is has strong armada crews
yeah otherwise you are essentially stealing loot from them that they can use and you can only stockpile
Ala Stella
@cosmic steeple @supple token important questions, will the Holiday token event actually required you to place top 25 in one of the prereqs to get into it or will it be like last time yall did this and let everyone into the final ?
Will have to ask about that...
is there any independent archive events coming up? didn't seem to see it on the calendar
There will be an event once you spend all your currency
Hey Ham...some feedback on the smart timer feature: Love the idea but the current execution can be improved
- why bother getting us down to 5 mins and force us to do an extra click or two? Just do smart timer to autocomplete, no need to waste another click for 5 mins
- maybe instead of the current screen with normal repair and latinum repair in ship dock, option to replace the latinum repair with the smart timer. i can't imagine anyone uses the latinum option after g2 ships... again, save a click
- if people run out of speedups, add a feature where you can buy speedups with latinum in advance (which you can do today only during a speedup window) so that they can pre-stock speedups
I have a question...hoping someone can help. Currently Ops 39 at the start of the BP. If I go to Ops 40, will the rewards store change or stay the same?
the choice reward store will update for g4
👍
and any ships that would be available will show up in the arc store
Not the answer I was hoping for, but good to know
the regular rewards on the battlepass won't change
but since the materials is behind the choice currency, those will update
but like you'lll be stuck with the g3 ship parts and such
10 pilum hulls and still not done with hostile event. Full event is worth 1 q shart. Keep the lot scopley, seems like you need it more than me.
What is your ops level, what is your Pilum level? What levels are you hitting?
Lvl 52, tier8, hitting 42s
3 hours of grinding. Hit some 44s but the hulls don't last
What about your crew? I was hitting 44s as ops49 with a t9 Pilum. Shouldn’t be too much difference. Just the extra below deck slot. Took me 3 hulls to kill 144 with Janeway, Lorca, Chang. Paris, Boimler, Hugh,PICHugh, Chapel.
A LOT of effort for 6k in loot which is only 1 q shard.
Agreed on the event store payout. Silver lining is I have a ton of material for refining so I can pull 2 bps a day now. I didn’t do any continuum hostiles until today.
Sounds bad
Someone at Scoply said, time to be in the Black for this month with all these purchase events. 
Was running janeway, doc, gorkon with hugh, chapel, mariner, and odo below deck
so we have an event store that only 39+ are getting currency for? thats a bit crappy for us newer players.. hopefully they add some events for the rest of us
Janeway doc only good if u can keep your shields
Haha fat chance
I’d recommend trying my load out and see how it works. Paris and Boimler help a ton for survivability.
Because it works? Hitting harder first is better than trying to make their punches hurt less with PME-d. Which is why Lorca is riding on the bridge. I’ll try PME-d tomorrow and see how much I can get in one hull.
I didn’t dig though my combat logs enough to look for procs, I’m thinking he doesn’t work for pvp? That could be broken for players.
Back in the day i thought of using pike chang and lorca for pvp but i found out even tho Chang says he proc he doesn't do anything
I will test it now
For hostile
Will be broken yea and i ain't the first who thought about that 😂
I killed 60 of the 44s per hull with my t5 Chang. 50 with t1 phlox and 49 with t1 trip. Chang might be good for f2p like me or others who don’t have some officers.
Ok does work on hostile it does delay it for 1 round doesn't stack tho so hostile still fires
Not as much as normally but they do
So even if chang proc every Round hostile fires doesn't stack kind of like snw Ortegas where she can't delay weapons back to back does every other round same with chang against hostile
That explains my surviving more. I’m sure if I had max of the epic officers there would be a different crew I would use. Just trying to help some of the late 40s and even other ops levels try to finish the hostiles. I’m all for being hard on Scopely when they make stuff suck and unfair—- like the Silent hostiles and Mirrior universe at launch. This was a launch that I’m not seeing the same problems that they should be reprimanded for, and it feels more like a personal problem for players and not the content. That being said, I have no complaints about being 49 because 50 and beyond even with proper ship crew research still has a prohibitive amount of points needed.
Definitely not the content problem did my sms fast
But the crew works well atleast what you suggest
That’s still a lot of shield gone (but if you still have shield at the end of a fight it’s still fine) but that’s kind of a chunk of hull gone.
I guess 🤣 i doing it other way finish my sms by hitting 52 ( saving ingame time is priority over repair lol )
Disregard, looks like my hull took some hits too.
Give me some crew setups and I will livestream what I can do. Give me 2 hours
Okay probably a stupid question….🙋♂️ uhm correct me if I’m wrong. You have to be ops 42 to build the new SS Revenant ship right? So why does the event tomorrow consist of ops 38 player having to compete in an event where the ship is REQUIRED? That doesn’t make any sense to me…just saying.
It might have a regular point modifier with the ship giving a bonus, we'll have to wait and see.
Could also be a typo.
Well hopefully so…guess we will wait. If not just plain stupid. But I will have faith and wait till tomorrow
people taking a 30-100m ship into waves is going to be annoying
What ops are you? Just curious cause I already have that problem haha 🤣 and I’m ops 38
Most likely a carbon copy of the nsea wave sms
Gave bonus points for kills with the nsea, regular ships scored still
much higher lol. I mean I don't mind when it's ops appropriate, but I'd rather 60's were bringing rotatas than new specialty ships
at least NESA is fast
lol 😆 but that’s fair. But at least the server I’m on it’s usually fairly matched in terms of who shows up. So those with the specialty ships balances out with the non specialty ships.
Speaking of Waves…do you have any idea if there’s a new Wave season pass en route.
Still no new Ei-Aurian armada bundle in continuum refinery. Only revenant bp and chaos tech bundle available
Does the armada bundles only show up once you have the ship
anyone have an idea if arc event store will be updated?
At the moment it's absolutely terrible and I have 0 interest in getting anything
Well if that’s the case I’ll be waiting along time to do these armadas
yes, the armada stuff requires the ship
This El Aurian SMS is hot garbage unless you buy the ship… rediculous.
Sorry but this event, new ship and the arc looks like it'll be a waste of time... Just a sad state of affairs... How many specialty ships is that now? A little nutz
did you buy and build the revenant?
ship doesnt really help with the event out of the box, its warp range isnt great out of the box and anyone other than low 40s can probably kill higher level ones with their regular ships
Get someone to open a rift and travel to the higher ones , that’s what I did
my point was that getting the ship alone does not change whether or not the event is hot garbage.
Hey scopely, if ur gonna run an slb where an important element is scrapping a ship, give the players who have the scrapper going on a ship that takes 2x the event duration the ability to speed up the scrapping of the existing ship
if your ship is stuck scrapping, just wait until tomorrow when there is an event to kill using it.
also funny that there are events this week to use solo and group armadas for revenant, with a bonus for using the revenant, when 1. we only get 1 group armada directive a week and you know everyone popped thiers today, and 2. only revenant owners even get the directives and noone should include a non revenant in the armadas anyways lol
Um no, this loop is just like Stella…. Upgrade scrap, upgrade scrap…. Current slb basically scores when u upgrade… scrapping time for the new ship is just like Stella , minutes so it can be scrapped instantly and then upgraded the same day .., several times…. Unless your scrapyard is busy with another ship
mines only t3 so hadnt figured out the scrappingg speed yet, i thought you were complaining that people would get stuck waiting for the revenant to scrap, not that you couldnt scrap yours because you had X ship already scrapping. my bad
El-Aurian event.. I need to get 1.86m pts to complete and with max new ship research can only hit lvl50 @ 12.84k per ship. Thats 144 kills to complete. This is stupid.
The el-aurian event is crazy no way I can complete what a waste only got half done took 1.5 hours. STUPID!
Did I hear there’s a month-long multi-tiered material spend sms to source the new epic officer? If so, has it started? I don’t have it.
Ok, so Scopely did reduced event token income from events twice from the last year (RevDeuce got a nice spreadsheet showing that) and now almost 24 hours passed and players below 40 don't get any single event except bpass and rotating daily one.
You have to work out the time investment Vs rewards. It takes a lot of time for not a lot of return. Plus it is boring, and lacks interest or imagination.
looks like event token income will be reduced another x2 and would quadriple now
Agree stupid event and being run again Sunday. I will now say what alliance mates said when I mention that. I needed every boost I could put on my ship to complete and that was only enough because I tiered my ship 2 tiers last spend event and I have two max fortifications saved up. They should have just lowered milestones not extended it
Well at least you got the event, but I do agree. The event game design is bad as it could possibly be, additionally low levels got EMPTY schedule first day (no tokens for you, #moneybags), this probably will occur later during ARC as well.
You should delete money bags as I only bought battle pass, don’t assume someone who completes is a spender.
Nothing about you personally, but that's how Scopely treats the players in general, pushing bad game design in favour of earning more money, lowering the event tokens income each iteration forcing to pay extra instead of fixing bugs, improving product quality and user experience.
Can anyone say if they are going to improve this holiday event store , absolute rubbish so far , not worth doing events for currency that will sit in my inventory...
You people have no imagination…. What is it now like 6 Q pvp officers? Next it will be Risa Picard, 4 lights Picard, mountain climbing Picard….
Scopley, I dont have 2 hours everyday to do dailies and events. If it cant be done in 45 minutes its too much. The sms needs to be dialed back. It takes to long.
@winter quarry they are copy and paste of other officers ,not worth going for unless you get them free
Picard is the Pokemon Go Pikachu of Star Trek. So many different costumes
Why does this go in mod announcements and not official announcements?
Sure, not an event, sorry.
@cosmic steeple Pretty solid so far. Could use a better warp range though.
It has been dialed back for future iterations. Technically they are giving you twice as long to complete it, but I hope they are also reducing the milestones. Consider providing your feedback in the feedback thread: #💬-events-feedback
@cosmic steeple so you can't score in the wave defience event unless you have the new ship? so compleatly pay to play event
Really ?!? 12.82 billions points !!!
Event store is pay to play this month I guess
<@&509690795536941056>
So, still no events that have Holiday event tokens as rewards for lower levels? (Lvl36 here). Is this a mistake, or is it intended lower level players are excluded from arc store?
This announcement suggest otherwise
so how am I supposed to use the revenant to score in the event, when I'm lvl 39 and cant even build it......
Got the popcorn because man oh man todays events are so badly designed.
These events are very disappointing
the final weapon event, 130 uncommon armadas to finish or 4 rare or two epic. cuz that maths out lol
it's 1 point without the ship and 10 with
Really??? A tier 1 ship in wave defense? 💩
aka 300 kills vs 30
@supple token @cosmic steeple soo, this arc is p2p?
I want to know what the devs are smoking.
As most of the previous arc was. Scopely now shamelessly demonstrate their greed
Absolute joke with these events! Getting worse each arc!!
Seems utter incompetence os the notm at scopley, however the bar is still being lowered
So here we go again with the missleading event descriptions
Ahead of the curve -SMS / Score by completing 'ANY' Daily Event.... well events under the actual ' Daily Events' tab dont seem to count.
tested, no ponts for non new ship
This is a joke right? 300 hostiles plus the other events that needs hostiles killing!!! How much time do you think we got?
30 with the new ship. but no points for non new ship currently.
So only the new ship needed for this event
It's all part of the 'Life Balance' buzz.
Yes
Do you guys even play the game. How is this a reasonable reward for a level 38 player. Level 2&3 ship parts???
on an ops39 locked server
scoply doesn't believe people below 40 are worth anything.
not much differentr than lvl56 player getting 3 and 4* parts
wait, we complained that it was too hard to complete sms without ship yesterday, so they made it new ship only today? Kinda hilarious tbh... awful, but hilarious.
<@&509690795536941056> Can or Devs not write a script that works?
it's not hard if you can't do it at all. big brain thinking
Huge thumbs DOWN on this event....300 WD hostile kills as a g3 player. Bad form Scopely
The arc runner needs to go fix tomorrow’s event if the whole month is like this
I wonder when scamply finally start doing something about the long time, ever returning Retrieving issue.
Have the feeling they dont care in any way about this game other than how they can empty their customer cc’s as quickly as possible.
This game has turned into a scam, and scopely doesnt even try to hide it amymore.
Utter incompetence
I dont know if we should call it "ShrinkFlation" or "SkimpFlation" getting all the useless stuff that one cant use anymore once past a certain lvl like some faction store reputations, Armada Tacticle Cores not to mention the tons upon tons of useless BPs for NewbShips .
Scopley...have you gone bonkers with thease events?
No, I will not be doing 130 Uncommon armadas to complete your silly event for one Trip shard and some crystal.
This arc is a joke so far. Makes it easy for me to stop spending money. Scopely you suk
An upgrade your OPS etc event on top of all this.... na I'm not upgrading my OPS till I'm ready
One trip tucker shard for 13,000 uncommon directives. lol lol hahahaha
The event makers and the arc runner clearly dont have a clue about this game
Guess its not ANY daily event.
Can i get a confirmation there is no Officer recruit quest EVER in the daily now ???? I have been sitting on syndicate turn ins for a week the 7th was supposed to be officer recruit , so im just boned now ????? Why do all these changes seem so bad , these rewards are trash , you took half the events we could save for away and replaced them with stuff you cant save for like fleet commanders. What is going on why why did you do this????????
It would take 32.5 hours to do that without speed up and then if everyone was doing it there would not be enough to go around
Am i reading this wrong or is there really never an officer recruit event now
Someone’s using Scopely maths to figure out these milestones lol
Oh scopely, scopely, scopely. Thank you for confirming that you all are still so unbelievably out of touch with reality. My faith in your total incompetence has been reaffirmed.
- the playing that type of events brings minimum joy: I'm comparing with other (online) games, where you need to think and wisely cooperate with others! When free time why should I try to kill hundreds of dots on the screen instead of spending time with my kids or read a book?! Rhetoric questions though
Please someone i just want confirmation that im reading this right and there is no longer EVER an officer recruit for the new daily
Well this is a fantasy game after all.
You see what we see. Good luck getting official confirmation. It sure seems that way.
Man i was afraid of that 😦 , ok well im sure they will be glad im gone , but this is it for me quitting and lettign alliance vault me , it was fun but this update killed the game for me. Thanks for the response
Just so we're clear. This event was provided to me as an OPS 38 player, with no possible way of completing it. Even if I DID purchase it, I can't build the SS Revenant until OPS 42. This is really unacceptable. Can you please fix this? And please PLEASE do some product testing with people who actually PLAY the game before launching broken things like this. It would take 2 seconds from someone who plays the game to let you know that you made a mistake here.
it's also for killing wave defense hostiles...
which this ship has no benefit for
Underrated comment.
Right?! at 59, I would need to do 2800 defense platforms or drydocks to achieve that.
you clearly misunderstood what i said
this ship is garbage for killing wave defense hostiles, why have an event for killing specifically wave defense hostiles with the ship?
doesn't make sense
ah, my apologies then @wanton cloud . Thank you for the clarification. I didn't want there to be any misunderstanding if the community managers read my feedback