💬-events-feedback

[ebon olive]

What about those of us that can’t log on

[crimson lake]

dopely doesnt care. have they ever. Can't log on. Oh well, you get drained. long live the whales.

[wanton copper]

Something we're investigating right now! The message directly above yours is to my original response

Sorry about that

[ebon olive]

Ok thx

[old vine]

This event is broken. 21-24 are basically stuck in their bases vulnerable to attack but unable to do contribute in any meaningful way to the event. Several bases from the opposite server are still on ours while they should be back on theirs during their defence. 0/10, great job scopely. Server powers weren't balanced, leading to basically a slaughter for one side. I'm guessing it's even more "fun" on other servers.

[alpine topaz]

@eco I sent you pm with some ss so it doesn't get lost in the chatter

[ancient jay]

Yep this is basically what we're experiencing

[little halo]

Suggestion: Scopely should put the players who enjoy incursions on their own server (or several) and let all the other people go about their normal gameplay

[ancient jay]

Or have a "contested universe" that temporarily appears to fight over.

[verbal summit]

Feeling stuck this event. The players coming to our server are all way out of my power range, and only some of the players in our alliance received conduits to move sides. I was not one of those people. So I can't hit the players that come over, can't move to the other server unless I pay for conduits, and can't effectively do dailies without much bigger players trying to come after me. It means my game is essentially on hold until the event is over, and I'm not really able to effectively contribute to the overall progress of the incursion event.

[dark jewel]

@odd marten how about some punctuation in the score? The bar / color is good but a few ',' would be helpful

[bitter ivy]

since ops 20-24 cant invade the other server the only way we can contribute is by defending ... and we are gonna lose (as has been evident through out the day). getting one shot by a level 34 enterprise is so not fun ( battle log is one round enterprise fires 1st shot my ship blows up enterprise takes no damage) kind of feel like i am a low level hostile to them . so far not very fun 😦

an idea would be negative points for killing a defender more than 4 op levels below yours .... so the whales have to fight the other whales.

[odd marten]

Will do what I can

[frail bridge]

Okay they really need to give out more tokens for jumping back and forth to server You should be able to do it at least one time per defense and attack for free...

But I am ranked up pretty well and I'm not up well and maybe a baby dolphin so I don't think this event's been too bad so far

[hollow flicker]

If the combat brackets, were not so unbalanced it could be a great event.....

[charred zenith]

GC should not be shared between servers. The things people are saying to each other is vile and there is zero moderation. Chat reporting does nothing in the moment to stop hate some terrible things brought in by this intensified competition. Something more needs to be done to moderate chats or GC shouldn’t be shared by servers

[autumn wadi]

I'm sure the chat filter turning "pal" into asterisks will take care of any hate.

[charred zenith]

Server v Server basically turns each server into one big alliance against the other big alliance. So, if in normal game play, alliance chats can’t be seen by other alliances, why should it be any different here? Server X shouldn’t be able to see server Y’s GC & vice versa. Nor post hateful things that they’ll get away with because they’re only there for a day & then gone

My players shouldn’t have to endure hate speech for an event.

[old vine]

The filter's hatred for chorizo has angered everyone.

[hard zephyr]

My game is frozen at the load screen after leaving the other server. Is anyone else having this issue? @wanton copper

[umbral mist]

What has incursions done, for many it is the final straw piled upon our backs... I arrived home from work a few minutes ago to find several of the most active people of my alliance, and the ones I engage the most with and known since the early days of the game, have chosen to quit, and several others contimplating it. I'll probably be close behind them, for without my friends I don't see how I'll be able to put up with all of the scopely madness and game issues. @wanton copper please thank the powers that be for ruining the game and chasing people off, now with freedom may they find better more rewarding things to do with the time they would have spent here. And we are on a server easily beating our opponent score wise

[charred zenith]

I too am losing alliance mates and long time players today.

[vagrant topaz]

Hahahaha welcome to Incursions. At least you all have some idea of what to expect, unlike the apac test subjects

[hard zephyr]

I'm having the same issue. Stuck at 82%?

[full crescent]

Several people are stuck in the same situation.

My shield has expired now.

[fading topaz]

@wanton copper game has frozen multiple times during this event and when I can get unfrozen I have been killed. Thanks for a most memorable and unenjoyable event.

[sweet valve]

I hear Star Trek Online is still up and having their relaxing Summer Event

[terse oyster]

I'm in a lvl 1 system and shielded and base was cracked by lvl 54 I moved but shouldn't have had to and he shouldn't have been able to touch me, since I was shielded

[sweet valve]

Sometimes, just sometimes, they do get the server match right, and the newer server still has the upper hand. The lack of more incursion tokens for free is still a sore point with a LOT of players in both servers.

[maiden latch]

7 day shield useless in territory? who thinks of this excrement?

[sweet valve]

They did say to move to a level 19 system or lower and shield several times

[maiden latch]

I was shielded... still have over a day left on my shield... I am sure this event is going well, what a joke

[umbral mist]

Territory is level less, which some may have mistakenly assumed was less than 19.... As they never said one way or the other in any official posting

[maiden latch]

https://www.startrekfleetcommand.com/2022/06/30/introducing-infinite-incursions/

Shield behavior

no mention of territory space

lol

[sweet valve]

It's not officially listed, but pretty sure terry systems are level 20

[rapid sundial]

I'm feeling pretty confident that an event at one point rewarded me 20 incursion tokens, and now that incursion is here they are nowhere to be found... is anyone else seeing this, or did I imagine the whole thing

[visual holly]

I have seen numerous similar reports including one from a high end alliance member on my server

[ancient jay]

@wanton copper you may want to look into implementing a server or alliance MOTD feature that shows on login to let people know about events like this. The number of people that apparently didn't know this was happening is shocking.

[frail bridge]

@wanton copper why is everyone shields back up in under 19 zones

@wanton copper

[sweet valve]

I'll guess is time to go sleep and they shielded up for the night, lol. Just saying. I just popped mine too.

[dense hare]

I'd give my opinion of this event, but it wouldn't be printable.

[runic heron]

Incursion really. There is nobody her to fight. Sever 39 is dead. Big waste if time.

[faint torrent]

I'm loving incursion. only thing I dislike is the sms: I like the idea, but one time is enough. it's too hard when you are below level for having an ent to get it done when most folks have that and up hitting your ships. you don't get points for losing and that takes the fun out of it. it becomes a chore to find someone to coordinate with to get it done and then hope someone doesn't come through and screw things up. Also... why the sarco?

I should add, that I absolutely do not pvp. I'm always shielded. I don't even raid. I'm having fun with this. I also feel that once per arc is sufficient. And that's my feedback.

[dire berry]

They don't care. There are total inhumane people on our server who've gotten away with saying terrible things about peoples family and children. They send inappropriate sexual comments to girlfriends/spouses. You report it and nothing happens. It's a joke. I'm all for normal game smack talking but this is so far beyond what is acceptable it's sickening. Scoply is sickening for allowing it. You tell them roughly when comments were made (if you didn't report it right then and there and save their name) and they won't look for it. Our server is getting cleaned out by players so far above anyones level there's nothing you can do about it. Our server will be mostly dead after this and we'll all eventually quit. Guess what Scoply? A recession is coming. Good luck.

[strong anchor]

Taking a pause, browsing around the hub systems … dozens upon dozens of drained bases, most likely casual players. How many will keep playing upon their return? I’m afraid this is less an incursion than a culling.

[dire berry]

Ya Ro it's a disaster. Our server is half done and I'm sure most won't come back. Those of us who may remain will be stuck fighting over nothing. Epic fail.

[ancient jay]

And if they merge server 81 with 82 that'll be the end of the rest of the 81 players.

[dire berry]

Yep.

[ancient jay]

Just from their behavior in GC, nobody wants to play with that level of toxicity.

[dire berry]

💯

[thick venture]

IT STINKS !!! never hold this garbage event again PLEASE it''s horrible and a huge waste of time

@wanton copper

[frail bridge]

It's not that bad of an event really

[lethal moss]

I did participate in said events and this is what I get? Really sad

[light canyon]

Why the hell is incursion still on going, my brother’s server is already done. This been going on since reset of events. This is bs can’t get things done . Supposedly only supposed to of been 6hrs this has been all day.

[grave vale]

I am not happy about your incursion mess. I am not normally a pvp player, but you are ramming it down my throat. I have an enemy's station sitting right beside mine waiting for any of my ships to leave. He is 8 levels above me. I don't stand a chance. I can't work on the daily missions or the specials. If this is going to continue, I will be gone. I won't spend money on a game that I can't enjoy all the time. This is ridiculous! Bullies will bully, and you are just enabling them to pursue their fun at others expense. I don't need this kind of mess in my gaming.

[crude arch]

why were some of peoples Conduits removed from our accounts, while others got to keep them Scopely? this event is ridiculous!

[wild ridge]

Incursion event suggestion. Make posting coords have some designation to what server they are posted from. All day people are posting coords and 75% of the time its for the other server. Suggested to my alliance to add a server number in there but didn't work very well.

And comma separators in the incursion score page. When the scores are in the trillions, it's hard to check them.

[high cliff]

Feedback? I think problem with incursions is obvious. It's a whale event. Gives the spenders an opportunity to kill lower level player en masse so they spend their next 100 happily soon thereafter. The rest of the players get to watch the event. Scopely thought about this for about a minute and said who cares about the non whales.

[mental ore]

i don't care if its a whale event, all i care about is that they include players that didnt want to get involved and that &#^%#&*^ me off..

[high cliff]

If the goal is to make half the players park their miners and go do something else for the day mission accomplished.

[copper briar]

On server 85, between lag issues, invading server still in ours attacking us when we were supposed to be on rhe attack, identification glitches, lag in attack notifications, lag in event points being awarded and so on... this event had been a mess for most.

[mental ore]

they require registration AND a level restriction but everyone can get hit? wtf?

[high cliff]

Exactly level restriction would at least make this somewhat fair. As it is currently all non whales learned today was next incursion event shut down for the day and check out another space game that you may like to replace this.

[mental ore]

there is a player that reported being cracked by an incursion player in a lvl1 sector SHIELDED.. talk about a broken event..

[old vine]

Not as concerned about not including everyone, but effectively blocking a large part of the player base from doing anything for most of the day... yea, brilliant plan.

also, discord folks, your filters are way too sensitive for a feedback room.

[slim crag]

I can’t give you accurate feedback without violating your rules. It was blank blank awful. It took all the fun out of the game. It was hot blank garbage. Old McScopley had an event, With a blank blank here and a blank blank there. Here a blank, there a blank, everywhere a blank blank.

[high cliff]

Yup most non whales learned today. Next event, close up shop 1 day shield and come back when it's done if you come back at all.

[mental ore]

why not just create a temp server, pickup the top 3 alliance of each server and have them go at it with the option of spectating and cheer for our server champs? they can even make it canon by using Q as a storyline driver...

[high cliff]

But they wouldnt feel the satisfaction of club sealing as they would have to face similar power on the other side. Scopely is smart enough to know that incursions in current form cannot work for half the players. Knowing that they went ahead with it anyway. Thats to satisfy those who spend that they took out 15 miners from lower level players and feel satisfaction that their next 100 comes out quick. Think about it people who make videos about the game are loving it.

[gleaming goblet]

Hey scuply your event sucks period! You canceled the prep events and then expect the players to spend money to participate? You just suck at providing for your player base.

[lethal moss]

I think the event is fine and I’m not a whale, I just don’t like getting cheated out of rewards that allow you to participate that you earned

[slim crag]

Okay, I got my silly response out of my system. Here’s some specifics. My favorite part was that it would show the invaders as part of my server until they attacked someone. The blinking indications were intermittent at best. The lag was not the worst ever but that is because you’ve set the bar so low. The level gaps were frustrating. There was no inclusion for F2P other than getting smashed. You’ve completely alienated all of your midrange level players. Maybe your whales will spend more to make up the difference in the players you lose.

I hope those responsible for this event have been sacked.

I hope those responsible for the sacking have also been sacked.

[mental ore]

we can go Monty Python with this...

[slim crag]

I’ve never turned down that opportunity

[faint torrent]

Strange. I never experienced lag. Though I've noticed lag is far less of an issue with the PC client. I agree about the level gap when it comes to the SMS. At low levels you MUST coordinate with someone from the other server to get it done. I only buy battlepass and am fresh lvl 30. Beyond that I had no issues. Buddied up with the big guns of my alliance invaded the rival server and raided bases and did other hit and runs. I never pvp, even to base raid.

[mental ore]

All we need is a moose and a moose handler..

[slim crag]

How would you coordinate with someone on your opposing server? That could seem counterintuitive and treacherous by the intent of the event. Also, is cross server coordination a normal expectation of game play now? Ridiculous

[fading topaz]

@wanton copper 24 minutes for a base raid notification! Unacceptable! I was raided for 14 minutes after the 10 minute shield was activated and ended! They got a third of my resources because you couldn't give a decent notification in this terrible event!

[patent river]

There's no 10min shield during incursion bruh

[primal hearth]

No we wanted server relocation tokens. No server air b&b

[slim crag]

Really? because they happened in under lvl 20 systems for both invaders and defenders

[faint torrent]

Exchange ship destruction in one of the designated systems! They smash your ship and you smash theirs. It could be difficult. Apparently our servers have good eggs.

[slim crag]

I wouldn’t even know how to contact someone on our opposing server until the GC merged

[paper knot]

I opened a ticket. They just replied that people who didn't participate in the Incursion prep events didn't get Conduits, and closed the ticket. Except I had the Conduits, and now I don't, and I didn't spend them, and several others on S71 have the same issue.

[faint torrent]

yeah that's pretty much how I did it. Or I happened across someone low enough level/willing to do it.

[primal hearth]

My base is 20m with all my ships in. I’ve seen that ship too. Gotta love level 39

[paper knot]

"Without looking at the logs I'm guessing you're lying, so I'm not doing anything," more or less. There was no mention of having looked at any logs.

[primal hearth]

#source?

[mental ore]

talk about being in denial..

[slim crag]

Here and Reddit. Oh, you’re looking for praise. Haven’t seen much of that. Lol

[mental ore]

he was reading the internal company scopely discord..

[primal hearth]

There is 0 skill for anyone in the 50s to squash a player in the 30s. Quite a few players could put keesner on a miner and blast my base to smithereens

[slim crag]

And even then probably only the approved releases. I’d bet half of the devs and others are blasting it too. Or hopefully cleverly making fun of it.

Okay, I guess I can go play minesweeper until this dumpster fire is over. It seems slightly more fun atm. See ya in a day scopely when the game is fun again.

[hot bluff]

So after experiencing the attack and defense cycle I’ll give Incursions a C-. It’s not horrible, but I’d be happy to never do it again. Of course it has all the usual problems with pvp in this game, which are plenty. Finishing SMS was a pain. Either not enough people to fight with or higher out of bracket players who either like being jerks or can’t understand simple instructions; either way you don’t get points. Repair costs are not worth how low the rewards were and how long it can take to complete. Having to move out of our TC and not being able to do normal activities like mining and killing reds was more annoying than any fun I might have had in small moments. I ended up spending most of the day being frustrated that it wasn’t worth playing the game much. I ended up playing games on my tablet I haven’t touched in years.

[compact coral]

Sorry Scopely, but this infinite incursions event sucks. I can't wait to get it over with.

[hot bluff]

On a minor note, the need to add extra zeroes to everything is silly. You don't need a score in the trillions. or at least add some damn commas 😝

[slim crag]

No one will fault you if you just end it early. Okay, maybe still a little, but it would be better.

[stoic raft]

Shields operate normally in 19 and under systems,... Or,... arer SUPPOSED to,...

[gilded warren]

No i want EU servers do the incursions, sure more happy satisfied customers!!

[paper knot]

I agree. Scopely put a lot of technical work into it, but there's little incentive to participate, and then they make you earn or pay for the tokens, and then in a lot of people's case the tokens disappear and Scopely does nothing.

I'm not a whale and saw no real incentive but was curious to try it; our server had earned some Conduits and I had them in my inventory. Then Incursions came, and now my Conduits are gone. I opened a ticket, but it was closed with no action.

There's a little activity every six hours on our servers and then it goes quiet with nothing happening, maybe some raids when someone is unshielded. They need participation and should be begging players to try Incursions, but instead the Conduits cost money or have to be worked for, and in some cases are taken away without recourse or explanation.

[tawny hedge]

I definitely completed the event for conduits. Didn't get any. Thanks Scopely. Sweet event. Wish I could participate as a consolation prize for how poorly this event is designed.

[umbral mist]

I've had a few times where I've contacted them about something, they get back almost a day later having looked at something that took place AFTER I contacted them, rather than what I contacted them about (them providing the time code of what they looked at and yes I adjusted their utc to my timezone), and closed the ticket... it's like um, sure I was talking about the future somehow and not the past....

[paper knot]

Wow, maybe I should open tickets about problems that I'm sure will happen 😆

[tardy iron]

Congratulations Scopely, you have now made the game unplayable for all except the big spending bullies. They camp all the quest systems and kill you on entry. There is no way to complete any event, or daily activity, therefore the ARC is also not able to be completed. You have ruined the game!

[inland tulip]

After watching Incursions, a few take-aways/feedback from a non-participant. 1. Whales fighting whales is nice if only to watch the local bullies get beaten up by bigger bullies. 2. The most negatively impacted players I've observed are those in our alliance who login to find that their resources are gone; I honestly feel bad for the players who've lost what little they had. Yes, I understand and saw all the warnings myself, but it's pretty dang obvious that not everyone did. Preventing shielding, anywhere and anytime, only has one outcome - they will be raided. You take a game mechanic of near universal safety and add a new restriction to it during the event. There is only one outcome from that - an unaware player suffers and may just give up and quit. And the only person you've made happy is a raider, who enjoys raiding, and in all likelihood didn't need that resource. 3. Incursions have reduced my gameplay to zero time. Same for just about everyone who is sub50 and unable to take on all the other ships. Tell me how this mode of gameplay actually increases the overall enjoyment and engagement of the majority of the player base for the game? All you have incentivized for me, a L42, is to move to a low level system, shield, and wait for the event to be over. But then during the Incursion you still run a battle point event for the active battlepass, which means you also just incentivizing invaders to camp systems and kill ships trying to finish the BP daily event. 5. Galaxy Chat is full of whales taunting other whales. Granted it is generally a cesspool of badness on my server that I ignore, but wow it's gotten 10 times worse. There's no civility in this, just people yelling. I would love the ability to mute entire alliances. Given all the effort to make Incursions happen, all the coding, front-end and back-end, app, etc, perhaps that development work might have been best used to fixing the game and adding quality of life features.

[pallid pasture]

Event overall is not worth the headache. Not sure about @wanton copper’s claim to balance. We see a serious lopsidedness to the ops levels of both servers. The payout is not an incentive for the rss lost in ship repair alone. So @wanton copper congrats on basically handing the whales the lower player’s rss. That is what this ultimately was about. You guy really did a morale job on my server, watched several players quit today. if this is the future of the game I forsee a mass exodus as this isn’t what most of us started playing.

[wise marsh]

You should call this event whales raid everybody. I can’t mine because minors get blown up wherever they are. I can’t launch a battleship because it gets blown up as soon as I repair it. All I can do is watch my resources depleted. I can’t play this game while this event is going on.

[vagrant topaz]

Scopely will tell you all it is a great success.
And it probably is for some, for most..not even close

At least your incursion didnt happen on Lat mining bp event 😂

[soft zealot]

Incursions Feedback:

Overall the event worked as intended but I think there are side effects you guys didn't expect.

UINTENDED SIDE EFFECT: Event basically made everyone quit playing the game. I spent 3 hours trying to find targets, not even UPC miners because the other server is more organized and spread the word. We're telling everyone in our alliance to stop mining, don't give the other server points. Seems like a unwanted side effect of the incursion event.

I'm bored already, I'm out of relocation tokens... people just keep jumping away when I find a base that's unshielded. No way to buy any more tokens ( I had 18 saved )... I can't mine or do events for fear of giving points to the other server.

Imbalance: Our server, being the newest, is quite far behind our matched server and our points should be scaled as such to be fair. Opposing server had level 39 Epic ships vs our best players who were level 36 with high level Rare 3* ships. Basically we had to run if targeted by these players.

Suggestions:

Once a base is "caught" do not allow them to use a relocation token while in combat for 60 seconds. They made the decision to stay in hostile space. Perhaps give them one escape button for free per event.

Make Incursion an on-all-the-time thing and make incursion conduits harder to get, so its more spaced out and rare event and not massive events. That way it's more like guerilla warfare just like when people deal with a base raid. People/Alliance might save tokens and do their own "raids" of a server on their own...but forget this flipping defense/attack every 6 hours thing. Maybe allow people to opt out as targets for incursions, but they also opt-out of great rewards. Let the PvE people PvE if they want or if you want a break from the PvP. Those that opt-out will lose out on some bonus progression if they don't either defend or attack. Uncommon ore is a great motivator 🙂

Hot Idea:

Rather than sending a whole station, allow players to send just their ships, with a station buoy that allows them to repair, respawn, and store a finite amount of raided resources. The buoy can be relocated easily or for low cost. Once the buoy is full, you will not gain any more resources from players until you return to the station and start a new conduit. The bonus here is that people can still play their game with their bases at home, and still participate in incursions at the same time.

[tame barn]

Hopefully the last. I have players that play for hours daily in my alliance talking about quitting the game.

They feel like they've been excluded from not only competition, their regular gameplay and turned into fodder for whales by this event.

I was always under no illusions we weren't fodder to begin with, but today has put this in stark contrast for all pocket money players and dolphins, let alone F2P.

You break players habits, even for a day there will be some you never get back.

[soft zealot]

Yeah, I feel really bad for some of our PvE-ers who love the game, but mostly stay out of PvP. I think incursions can be scaled down. Made less impactful on server PvE. And give the other server a random spawn/event like feature that says "enemy server ships spotted in Kepler raiding... help defend us" I used to play a Korean MMO called Aion and we'd do exactly that...conduct little 5-player raids on enemy territory and it was so fun being hunted and hunting. Eventually we'd all be caught and sent "home" to our side. I think a similar mechanic might work well.

[tame barn]

Some kind of "arena" mechanic like an area of space you go to compete would have been a better option IMO.
Something where you could put together teams and work out strategies.

This is like we're boarded up for Hell Night. It's just not fun.

[vagrant topaz]

Its called your server

[soft zealot]

See, that's where you lose me, I hate the Arena concept because it takes you out of context of the universe... or maybe a multi-server territory space?

it's liek a mini-game within the game...

(arenas that is)

[gilded warren]

I truly hope you get a bonus for packs sales , negative 50 75 % going hurt aint it 😊

With my spending thats 100 %

[soft zealot]

yeah, alot of our daily armada spenders didn't buy any today and prob not tomorrow...

I didn't spend any money on this event. I wanted to buy relocation tokens but they aren't really available.

[gilded warren]

Been playing 3 yrs , first time i can remeber seeing jayla in a event was recently

[tame barn]

That's the sort of thing I mean, arena isn't exactly the right term. I just couldn't think of a better one and meant the mechanic rather than literally.

An area of space you travel to or an existing area where universes have collided temporarily.

Something more fun than sitting with someone 10+ levels above you camped outside your bases

I don't think anyone has bought a thing all day in my alliance.

[soft zealot]

We had 8 buys today... and that's since this AM, very low, about 1/4 of our usual spend

[gilded warren]

My cynical mind keeps coming back to incursions was deliberate. What they expect to gain from it, has me confused

[hollow flicker]

Well its official just lost 5 members they parkred there bases in a level 20 system uninstalled the game and said bye bye in discord. Incusions works great. Killing players from the game.

[gilded warren]

Actions have consequences even for scopely

[soft zealot]

i mean, I won't fault the devs for trying a feature...this game is awesome for all the content it rolls out... I think they should have easily seen this outcome though... it's a hard balancing act mixing pve and pvp in the same universe without a separated arena concept

this should no reason to quit the game, yes, if they keep it as-is, without tuning it -- then that will suck.

[strong anchor]

I think it’s hard to make PVP this boring, but Achievement Unlocked!

[ivory storm]

Next time let Everyone see the event details, not just the special chosen.. Especially when everyone is included in being killed in the event.. Under 25 can't even see round times, points, or leaderboard..

[soft zealot]

yeah they should have added a timer like "incursions start : 07h40mins" stickied

my friend was playing in no-cell service area when he found out about incursions event re-starting after the fail... he barely got his shield up in time.

[ivory storm]

Those not included in the event should at least be able to know when it's safe to come out and do some mining or dailies without being killed

[hollow flicker]

There messages were basicly, "unstable game, broke every patch, dev dosent care about players only wallets, going play something fun. This game sucks right now."

[ivory storm]

And give more notice that it will actually happen so servers can do some planning.. Epic fail on the release and re-release with no notice until right before

[tame barn]

I've played similar events in other games, but in those games there's been more scope for guerilla strategies so low and no spenders can at least participate.

Co-ordinating between alliances is impossible in game. GC is compromised as a feature of the event but chat is so limited there's no way to build even small cross alliance chat groups. You have to use another application to run communication and many refuse to use external apps

This is a good idea in principle, poorly executed and lacking any infrastructure to be anything other than most of a server being used as target practice.

[soft zealot]

if this event is a once every 3 month thing ok... but if it's weekly or even monthly, it's gonna suck...they need to scale it back to be more pve friendly and not stop the entire game economy...hence why I'm proposing more smaller continuous incursions, vs massive server v server events...

[hollow flicker]

They said they wanna run it twice a month!

[soft zealot]

yes, I'd love the communication system in the game fixed so everyone doesn't have to rely on discord. I think maybe 25% of players are on our discord so getting messaging out is near impossible.

[ivory storm]

It's to help decide server mergers I've heard

[soft zealot]

what how does this help lol?

[ivory storm]

Deciding the dominant server

[soft zealot]

we had horrible lag over the weekend but somehow no lag during the event...

[soft zealot]

there can be only one!

[ivory storm]

Lag was so bad during invasion this morning I couldn't even launch a ship

[ivory storm]

Lol.. Who's dom and who's sub..

[soft zealot]

interesting...maybe our server populations are smaller cause we're so new...our max levels are 36

[tame barn]

Well to be fair in our server there seems to be more invaders than residents playing today. Maybe that's a factor affecting load.

[strong anchor]

Oh gawd if you have to run incursions again, do it outside of the battle pass. Replace faction hunt but fold in those rewards. Need better rewards. And much narrower pvp brackets so they could be at least interesting instead of inevitable

[ivory storm]

77 & 76 are older and mostly full.. Horrible lag when our server hosted.. Considering you can have terabytes of space shouldn't be an issue unless they're running them on the 80gig hard drives

[soft zealot]

You know what would have been a nice side feature? destroy dead-stations

clean up all those dead-beat players that have quit the game

if they come back, they get a spawn-station token to relocate

[ivory storm]

Lol 1.5x points for stations inactive a week or more

[soft zealot]

it would be awesome to actually perma-destroy a station

are older servers just full of these?

[ivory storm]

In heroes of avalon if you aren't home and get hit so many times without response it randomly teleports your station away

[river merlin]

already a thing

[ivory storm]

We are pretty good about keeping them beat down

[soft zealot]

do tell?

[river merlin]

if you dont play for 6 months that already happens

[soft zealot]

ah our server is only 3 or 4 months old

[ivory storm]

I've been playing for 5. 5 months, and server was established before I joined

[river merlin]

sad to see people joining this late knowing how bad the 3 years has been

honestly

just know your going to have a irritating few years ahead lol once you get merged

[soft zealot]

we're a new group of players coming from other mobile games and we love this game more than any we've played so far...there's alot of good, I'm sure we'll eventually see the bad.

[ivory storm]

I played heroes of avalon before.. Only the team I joined when I first started kept me in game cause of the glitches

[ivory storm]

It's whether you enjoy the people more than the lag and glitches, and such

[river merlin]

slow progression will hurt you imo

[soft zealot]

totally seems like Star Trek franchise attracts older, mature players, alot less drama

yeah we're all stalling out on uncommon ore

[ivory storm]

I don't pay to play so I go slow, but I'm stronger than most payers my size as I don't rush levels

[river merlin]

even in the 3 years weve barely been able to get enough mats to feel “full”

and constant side ships and side mining makes the game take up too much time in your day to get stuff done

[soft zealot]

how much do you spend @river merlin

[ivory storm]

Minimal resources means it's a push to fight and steal from other players lol.. We have rules to keep it civilized but still allows to go raid

[river merlin]

i stopped spending ages ago

[soft zealot]

I totally agree all this special-ship grinding is making this game feel like a job

[ivory storm]

Pick the ones you like most and just work on grinding for those

[river merlin]

once they implemented battlepass stuff i think is the last time i spent

so 2019

lol

[soft zealot]

I bought this $100 pack at end of June that gives both June and July tokens and I'm drowning in resources...I don't want any more lol, I just want uncommon ore... since I play BP (elite, $20) I get more than enough resources to level right now... this $100 pack just made me a big target lol...

[ivory storm]

Shield or share... Rules of the sky

[soft zealot]

thing is, I shouldn't even have these resources, I can't spend them, I get a decnet amount from raiding and BP event elite and dailies

[ivory storm]

Lol just level up everything in sight

[soft zealot]

I can't...no uncommon ore

it's the game's big limiter

[river merlin]

ouch once you buy a $100 pack you stop being able to buy the cheap ones

[soft zealot]

oh really?

I kinda noticed all the $5 packs vanished

I thought it was because of my level

[river merlin]

nope thats how they get you addicted

[ivory storm]

I'm off for now.. Have fun yall 🤪

[soft zealot]

sounds cruel and illegal 🙂

[ivory storm]

Very nice hearing yall voice opinions from other servers, thank you

[river merlin]

I would enjoy the game but it takes me 4 months for like one building

and thats not ideal

[soft zealot]

what level are you?

[river merlin]

42

been that level for like a year

feels like

[soft zealot]

Out of curiosity, how much does it take to level up a Tritanium Warehouse or Vault?

[soft zealot]

https://stfc.space/buildings/61?level=42&c=$description:true%26build_cost:false%26requirements:false%26rewards:false%26weapon_stats:false%26consumables:false wait what....?!

[lyric lily]

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[faint crest]

Today incursion event could have been better. Lots of lag during raid and defend.

[pallid pasture]

It is one thing to fight off those who have paid to win on your own server. With mechanics that we spent time being able to protect our base, such as shield and house in territory. But to have that involuntary stripped away and now have to fend off the whales of a different server is something else. If that was the state of the game when I started I would not have stayed this long, and if the is the state going forward then I am done spending money and will find another game that has balance. You literally created a way to screw over those who cant afford to spend thousands. But could spend battle passes and a few optional packs.

[floral vapor]

Or having those whales sit in your PvP system with ships that don’t score in your bracket because they are too big, killing everyone trying to do the PvP event for incursions. Not fair to lose to a huge ship and get 0 points for it

[pallid pasture]

You can not logically begin to compare this game to a MMOrpg game at all.

This shows that the concept of pvp in this game is out of touch. In any mmo the brackets and gear are such that anyone through a little time and grinding can have a means to level the playing field. Skill is all about knowing your class and rotations. This game has zero skill in that those who have more disposable income will always win. There is no rotation, and the only skill is crewing which is easily defeated by the absurd power gap in most brackets. Which only gets worse the higher up we go. After reading through these comments presented in the last 24 hours I really think you guys (not your personally per se) are not actually listening to the community, but to the highest bidder.

What is called pvp here is not really at all pvp. Because, gear (ship tier and components) will never be the same. It is all a one shot kill mechanic. Not a multiple rotation of abilities where thought has to be given on the fly and healing from others, and damage from others can all take place. As the balance has grown lopsided, we on our servers figured out ways to some what contain that by having our own rules which sought to balance some things. And every server is different, some not at all, but to bring a whole other group in where everything we have done for more than a year and a half (for my server) is forcefully removed to the point that just trying to do the daily grind is now at a halt is not just defeating, demoralizing, it is downright malicious.

If this truly is the direction, and Scopley fails to hear and address the issue of the ridiculous imbalance, then you are quite literally biting the hand that feeds you. I do not foresee this playing well in the long run for server populations and over all game enjoyment.

[hallow echo]

The incursion event that is going on right now on my server is having such latency issues oh, that I was watching my base and apparently I was attacked four or five times, no enemy base anywhere near me no enemy ships near my base and yet I suddenly get an alert that my base is under attack I instantly repair I ended up having to try to relocate. When I looked at the logs I had four or five assaults from two enemies whose base is apparently were there several minutes before I could even respond to the attack alert without even seeing anything. Scopely you are failing miserably

[brittle pilot]

Lag has destroyed the final 6 hour event of incursions. It is so bad, it it impossible to compete. You see 6 event updates for the battle that took place, but you haven’t even seen your ship enter the system yet.

[spring umbra]

OMG the lag!

[worn shadow]

LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG!!!

[wise marsh]

There’s no point in playing this game until this event is over. It is not worth cashing in any daily event because it just gives me resources that I will lose in the next raid.

[worn shadow]

go to a low level system and shield up

[elfin sentinel]

Lag is bad right now on 56

[manic estuary]

Whole thing is too much of a grind, if not greatly redone or lots better payoff I'm taking the day off from now on

[gentle eagle]

Offense defense times need to be reevaluated. One server on offense during the work day and then in the middle of the night while the other has offense at primetime and then again in the morning provides a clear advantage to one server over the other. Especially considering point differential for attacking vs defending. Maybe do 8 3hour blocks instead. Or scrap the points advantage. @wanton copper

[wise marsh]

It doesn’t matter which system you were in they find you anyway

[worn shadow]

52, base attack animation is not playing or get stuck at attacking. discord "Slowmode is enabled" ?

[upbeat ferry]

Server 31 is beyond Glitchy this morning. Can’t target ships, can’t move bases. Can’t raid. It is bad

[regal ravine]

The incursion event is awful, seems like a ploy to get people to spend money so they can survive. Seems like a good time to quit playing.

[tender wadi]

I have up on incursions… unplayable lag!

[upbeat ferry]

Now game is stuck loading !!!

[austere vigil]

Slowmode is enabled here to be consistent with the severe lag in the game. It’s to keep you from feeling too entitled. 🤣

[visual holly]

If you play wow arena then you know that all max level players are paired together and sorted by a rating system for matches. That you can disable pvp entirely with war mode off. That no lvl 30 player will ever be paired with a max lvl player in arena. So the only conclusion I can draw from such a comment is that you think we will believe anything or you are trying to defend the indefensible with a very bad analogy while also insulting our intelligence.

[unborn herald]

FYI devs: the Bulk of our 80 member alliance moved to low systems, shielded for the day and went to play other games. Several allied teams did same. So, how does an event that creates attrition, and drives your customers to NOT show up for days benefit your product or your bottom line?

[austere vigil]

@wanton copper Exactly like in golf, apply a handicap value to even it out.

[iron cape]

Server 77 lag is so bad hostile ships are not moving

[potent oracle]

Its one freaking day of pvp can you guys stop complaining about spicing up the monotony of this game. sorry this wasn't invade the server and mine as much as you can. or invade the other server and see who can refine more materials

[elfin sentinel]

The team that starts on defense has a clear advantage.

[potent oracle]

i think the people that sat out were always going to sit out. I do agree things can be tweaked to make the pvp more balanced but in the end people will always shout its unfair for xyz reasons. Example, 39-42 is a pretty tight pvp band but 42s can get those uncommon g4s so its not "fair". If I am the only level 60 on my server and no one is above 55 im just supposed to not participate? Sometimes the solutions aren't as easy as we may think

[manic estuary]

So I just collected a couple of these exocomps and there is no sign of them

[visual holly]

So you are saying that pairing 39s with 42s is a bad idea so fair bands can't possibly be created with a little thought? While giving an off the cuff example showing the minimal thought needed to create them ..

[potent oracle]

You're missing the point. You restrict the pvp too much and you have what, a few people who can actually attack each other depending on server population. Then people complain there's not enough targets. It seems like everyone on here only wants to fight against people who have the exact same strength and ships which isn't possible 100% of the time. For transparency sake I am not a whale by any means. I do think a lot of the pvp banding is unfair to a certain degree. But the majority of the solutions aren't really feasible for every server.

[visual holly]

No. The same ops level would be fine. As you point out even 1 lvl can add a ship that totally imbalances pvp. Nobody is saying people with better developed accounts should be denied beating less developed ones but they at least need access to the same tools or it's pointless. Raiders in mmos have better tools and arena masters but they compete against others with access to the same tools whether they have them or not. Well thought out bands denies nobody anything except people who can only win with a huge advantage that can't be matched due to game restrictions. If people don't have enough targets then too bad. If you are so above everyone on your server you can't have a fair fight then providing punching bags isn't helping the game.

[vagrant topaz]

Less than 4 hours till incursion starts and I have to restart multiple times just to kill a borg probe, nice!

[potent oracle]

You shouldn’t be punished for progressing either which is exactly what limiting pvp bands to the same ops level does. It’s a two way street, people can punch up too. Doesn’t always go the other way.

[hard plume]

there are enough games with good and well balanced PVP and thats fun, in this whole game PVP balancing is more or less missed since the beginning, don't know if scope will learn from others...i guess not so i stay in Lv19- system let the day pass and have fun. Don't misunderstand I like fair and good PVP battles but here this is no PVP its just stupid if a single ship twice the power of my base (well built and researched) smashes it with one hit and even if I use all my ships i can't do anything....so don't call this here PVP its just slaughterhouse, where guys who think they have balls smash all away whats around...haha so far

[high aurora]

Incursions is likely better suited between ARCs as additional filler content and not overlapped with battlepass events during an ARC

[potent oracle]

This I agree with

[full crescent]

Have you been able to get back into the game yet? I have not been able to yet either.

[sharp cave]

The various xslb should not be restrictor to "as invader". Means people just stay on other server even during their defense

[visual holly]

How exactly is it being "punished" to be restricted to fighting players who can potentially match your strength. It's not "pvp" if the outcome can be predicted blind by seeing ops lvls alone. You act like no game with pvp elements tries to make reasonable matches and that it is impossible to have opponents at every level. These problems have been solved in numerous games already. Pvp is meant to add gameplay. If high lvl players lack playmates that is a scopley problem and the solution is to find a way for them to have rewarding pvp with their peers not bully those below them because scopely can't find a way for them to compete with each other. Now that xserver events are possible then there is a solution better than what we have.

[potent oracle]

Under your rules by limiting pvp same ops level. I move up and no one else does I can no longer pvp. Or I move up and go from 100 level 39s to 5 level 40s. There is a pvp event and 4 of those 40s aren't on and don't want to participate. Now I can't do the event. I am being punished for moving up.

[toxic sinew]

a single ops level may be too restrictive, but the breadth of the current pvp banding by ops level is clearly not working for many players.

[vestal socket]

Has anyone else reported yet that lots of people didn't get Incursion Conduits? Making it so we couldn't even try to invade the other server?

[visual holly]

Carry on with your slippery slope straw man arguments. It has been done in other games and your made up extreme examples are fiction unlike the actual real imbalanced mess that pvp brackets are now.

[trail mason]

Incursions is for players level 40+ anything below that and you might as well shield up and take the day off and go play Minecraft instead. As you don’t have a chance of winning a single battle.

[thin pollen]

Lag lag lag lag lag lag….. this is the worst I’ve ever seen it…

[toxic sinew]

It was a frequent comment yesterday. It ranged from people upset that they didn't get the IMS rewards because they didn't score, to people who swore that they did score and got the rewards, but they disappeared.

[potent oracle]

I never said the pvp wasn't imbalanced. I said restricting it too much like people want on here isn't a good thing either and I said no matter what solution scopely comes up with people will find a reason to complain because it's never going to be tuned to you can only fight your doppelganger.

[stiff rapids]

The problem is you should not be able to have a level 49 or 50 come into a system and clear 15+ people and not take a ding to the hull. There need to be a way that those small ships can take on the bigger one

[trail mason]

They need a golf style handicap method in place for incursions to help level the field. Then more people will participate and may even be willing to spend some money.

[toxic sinew]

There needs to be either a theoretical chance to win, even if it is only by having madd l33t ski11z, or some for of penalty for the big guy (even if it's only something like 'griefer' added to their name.)

[unkempt trellis]

They don’t need to do anything. I need to get over my sunk cost fallacy and stop playing this game. That’s the real solution here.

[sweet void]

There should be a way of opting out of the whole Incursions Event. for 24 hours individuals could not do dailies. It is possible that those were the times that individuals may be on for two days. If you noticed. the only ones that participated where were level 40 and above. The biggest bullies in the game. Scolplay and these players should be ashamed of their behavior.

[ancient jay]

Like the "chicken" penalty from the MMO years ago that turned the griefer into a literal chicken for 10 minutes.

[wise marsh]

I’m playing FreeCell until this is over

[bronze shale]

unpopular opinion maybe, but i know server 81 and 82 have had a lot of fun with this event. the matchup looked really uneven at first but turned out to be pretty good, and we got along with the other server super well. i hope that if this event runs again, 81 and 82 are matched again.

[potent oracle]

this event was fun and i got blown up way more than i did any blowing up. The people complaining were always going to complain. I hope they do this again too

[vestal socket]

Not necessarily. Lots of people in my alliance go through events without complaining. This one was broken and was not okay.

[ancient jay]

No, we haven't. You have. We had nothing to do on 82 because of your pregaming.

[rich orbit]

@wanton copper noone has yet to explain to me why the loot i raid does not show in my inventory, it shows a full cargo each run, it shows them vaulted, bur apparentlyy it all disappears soon as it leaves my cargo

[dawn glacier]

Event was pretty boring. Lots of people shielding in low level areas to opt out (of all ops levels). After the first hour there was almost no bases to raid. Higher ops players parked ships way to high to score in lower level designated pvp areas. Couldnt do dailies and the battle pass easily... etc. Not a lot to enjoy about the event for me personally.

[bronze shale]

I assure you, we didn't pregame. we had no idea what we were doing. a lot of the folks from 81 that I've talked to enjoyed it - sorry you didn't have the same experience.

[toxic sinew]

That's a step farther than I think this game would ever go, but yes.

[rich orbit]

also @wanton copper i took one loss from a ent in adelphi, no score, and and whats this bologna delay for chat? this isnt a live youtube stream ya know, SMH, as ussual , no suprise though, 5 minute timer wow, are you mad of my criticism toward you not fixing the game? are other getting the same 5 minute delay from commenting?is this your way of trying to get ppl to give up complaining to you ? im curious of this new move.stuff like this is why this will be the last bp i buy, otr anything else quite frankly, looks like f2p here on out, if get to bad though i can see the exit door from where i stand.

[trail mason]

Wanted to enjoy it, but didn’t. It’s no fun dying every time, just one win would have been nice. Hopefully they will iron out the issues and make it a fairer pvp experience. I don’t mind losing battles that’s part of the game I just want to win some as well. No fun being a punching bag.

[dawn glacier]

Hopefully incursions are not a forced event on everyone going forward. Lots of players felt like they couldn't play at all. That's kind of the opposite effect you want to encourage for a healthy player base.

[cursive furnace]

Incursions may be a better idea as a tournament type event similar to King of The Sea in World of Warships, where individuals battle it out and flex on their knowledge and skills as a dedicated tournament

[strong anchor]

If two servers cannot muster enough players for bracketing like with like, I submit the problem is not with the brackets but with the concept itself.

I mean, sure, it’s nice to score extra points when killed by a ship out of my class (though not too much higher that I get no points), but it’s not any fun. Players at the bottom of their bracket have it even worse. Look in Adelphi and you’ll see 31 miners, franklins, stellas going in just to be killed for points. I’m sure they’re having loads of fun! 🙄 Players at the top of the bracket are shooting fish in a barrel—easy but not exactly engaging

PVP is fun when you feel you have a chance, with good matchups. Hell at times I have pvp with friendly players where we’re trying out crews. And it seemed that the Disco v Disco events in the Turf Wars was enjoyed by just about everybody

If we’re not having fun, we’re less likely to participate. And we’re much less likely to spend $$$

[neon bane]

Totally agree. Absolutely worthless event

[sweet valve]

Honest feedback. The event is fun as long as there's something to shoot at. It was fine the first 2-4 hours, but then everyone hunkered down and there was nothing to hit to add points except for the whales going around raiding unshielded bases. The incursion token sourcing was also a sore point, and quite frankly, they should be taken out or everyone given enough for 4 transfers during the event. You have two XSLBs for 250 players and I'm pretty sure neither got to 250 because again, no targets, no score. One guy in my alliance got 5 points due to dumb luck someone hit his base and died. The PvP SMSs were basically people throwing Franklins and Discos to be blown up for points as usual with PvP events. You have this idea that people want forced PvP in x system for points and every single time people will take the quick and easy way out. The fact that you threw an armada XSLB right before the incursions meant a lot of people were low on repair speedups, so that also contributed to the low participation. Had I had the 700 I had before the armada event, I would have been able to participate more, but bad event planning keeps ruining the gameplay over and over.

[wild basin]

Incursions is joke, nobody can mine, do their tasks. Get a level 46 battleship killing everything that moves .. lots of fun. You do know there is always someone stronger than you so what is the point?

[visual holly]

I have seen the developers can't win because someone will complain anyway argument used to defend the indefensible far too often. There are solutions that would please the majority that are possible and the status quo is not one. I'm saying change is needed and that the least concern should be whether a person has targets or not because for the most part you can opt out of being one, so the solution is to encourage people to want to participate. The entire lower game is nothing but continuing reinforcement that it's futile and trains people to avoid that part of the game. I tried for 5 hours to do the system designated sms. Nobody came to pvp because the game teaches them to avoid it.

[sweet valve]

We had to coordinate to some extent with S68 to throw sacrificial ships for points. Having to coordinate PvP is not PvP.

[tawny hedge]

@wanton copper Support ticket 7941327 I completed all of the pre-incursion events but found that I had 0 Incursion Conduits and was forced to sit out of this event. Very disappointing.

[worn shadow]

Another unplayable event due to technical difficulties,. I think this game is dead. We had another player quit the game.

[outer oyster]

Each turn of incursions should be 12 hours, not 6. Expecting people to put in 30 mins of play between midnight and 6am to do an sms doesn't make sense

[amber hound]

Don't worry, Scopely will just say you didn't complete the events and you didn't ever get the tokens. Because their logs never lie.

[tawny hedge]

You're kidding?

[trail shale]

They aren't.

[tawny hedge]

let me guess. A ton of people are all experiencing the same issue and they are calling all of us liars.... Daily players that always complete all events but clearly we just missed this one critical one because we're idiots? Maybe I didn't spend enough?

[plain acorn]

I suggest that next incursion the open pvp zones should be level restricted. Like one zone is for 35 and under and the other zone is for 36 and above and you can't enter the system if you are above or below the level requirement. Might make pvp more enjoyable for lower levels. The level cutoffs could be different than what I suggested. I just think between 35 and 36 is when there is a big power jump.

[signal otter]

Not that I expect anything to change. It is just a money milking machine, but when you get paired with a server that had more 40+ in a single alliance, than you have on your whole server, it kind of eliminates fun. We had close to 20 people quit the game entirely before first 6 hour incursion ended.

[hidden panther]

A couple thoughts on Incursions.

1. Do away with the system requirements for the SMS milestone. I like the idea of having to win or lose against specific ship types, but limiting it to a single system in your bracket turned out to be silly. In the 46-49 bracket, our system (X5-TKV) was empty 99% of the time. To complete the event we had players begging the other server to send ships just to suicide on for points (promising not to actually kill them, but just to feed them points). Functionally no actual pvp occurred in our designated system. Let the ships you kill or lose against count anywhere you find them, keeping the current scoring parameters.

2. Six hour blocks for the SMS was very difficult to do, I would rather have one "all out assault" event and one "all out defense" event and have each last the full 24 hours of incursion. Make the payout 75% of what the combined two runs of each would pay, but easier to complete.

3. Shield suppression was a neat idea, and encouraged raiding; but I would suggest rather than suppressing all shields in higher level systems, just disable the 10-minute emergency shields in the higher level systems. You could still get a bunch of rss from someone that didn't respond quickly (or at all) and you wouldn't have people angry the peace shields they manually set not working.

4. Incursion tokens to transfer feel like a overcomplication. I'm not sure what game design reason was for the limit on conduits, but I would rather see the port over just be on a 2 or 3 hour timer; that way if you wanted to jump back over to keep pvp'ing ; you at least had the chance to. That would keep people from just jumping non-stop, but allow a little more flexibility for everyone.

[errant belfry]

problem is they tried an all out pvp event on the individual servers before and most players shielded for the day... so this 'new' event was to do the same thing but with multiple servers

[hot bluff]

Downgrading to a D- due to the unplayable lag going on this last quarter. Frustrating.

[stray bison]

So on my server we were winning, until 3 whales were drained. That meant not only did they contribute to the loss but they weren't on offense to offset. It kind of made everything else irrelevant. I don't know how you fix that. Some players are just weekend warriors.

I wonder if this event could be played in the territories. Most of the whales are there. Change the timers from days to hours. Whatever server holds the most territories wins. Yeah sure I get it there is more money to from raiding than ship to ship fighting. Just include raiding into the scoring.

[dense island]

I have been experiencing significant lag, not just on this game but also on Scopely's Marvel Strike Force. I expect that there is some shared infrastructure across those games. I recommend not taxing your system so significantly in the future. I appreciate your desire to provide unique content, but please do not do so at the expense of the user experience. Maybe next time create and "opt in" process and move the players that want to participate to a dedicated server during the event that won't impact other players or other applications. Thanks for listening.

[errant belfry]

after a while they are removed from the game automatically

[eternal lintel]

I am about ready to delete my account. I am currently stuck on the opposing server. The lag is so bad that auto shields are not popping in low level systems. I cannot shield, cannot return to my server, cannot ask for help with a repair, and cannot see incoming ships until my base is hit. It takes as much as 10 minutes & 20 attempts to relocate my base, and I’ve lost track of how many relo tokens I’ve burned this morning trying to keep moving because I keep getting raided and can’t stop it.

[pliant gull]

How come on sever 61 when in a low lvl system my base was raided and drained while shielded

[tribal saffron]

I burned so many shields yesterday because they wouldn’t stay up in low sec space.

[steel oasis]

Players should not be scoring on Incursions Champion XSLB for hitting dead bases non stop....doesn't seem very fair

[eternal lintel]

Agreed, it’s absolutely ridiculous to be able to game the slb by just spamming dead bases for hours and beating out players who have actually engaged in pvp the way the event intended.

[covert ginkgo]

@wanton copper So many other good suggestions in here for incursions, but please remind the Devs that commas are their friends. Mashing together a bunch of numbers without commas and in some cases missing entire digits, makes seeing your servers point total a lost cause. We’re talking trillions of points, use commas!

[neon oasis]

Pathetic excuse for an event

[twin mason]

incursions was awesome! (as a weak 35 on a weaker server that lost) thanks for all the effort making this happen

2 suggestions:

1. scoring should be the same offense and defense
2. you should automatically get sent home after each 6 hr cycle

oh, and agree, hitting dead bases shouldn't count

[mighty star]

W.t.f - where?

[strong anchor]

Isn’t incursions supposed to be 24 hours? We have new incursion events!

[vapid ocean]

Server 176, tried to transfer, game crashed now stuck on 82%, cannot get into game

[eternal lintel]

And now the event is over and I'm still stuck on the other server with no way to get home

[signal otter]

If we are going to deal with this again. I quit too. This is just dumb.

[thin bear]

So, just to verify.... Are critical successes not counting on the Away Team event AGAIN, for like the 5th time?

Or am I just dealing with "normal" lag BS?

[low grove]

Why does server 43 have an incursion event running if we were told we would not be having one?

[hollow flicker]

@charred forge please also look at the incursions -feedback channel and give feedback with recommended improvements not just complaints.. lets work to make what could be good, good instead of what we got.

[grave rose]

Worlds explorer not scoring finished 2 epics with critical success and nothing!

[toxic sinew]

It appears to be just the XSLBs and our shields aren't suppressed.

[low grove]

And now it is gone from my events. Just another highlight of the epic failure that is the dev team. I refuse to participate in these garbage events. I will be shielding and avoiding the game until incursions are gone.

[high aurora]

Same 😦

[grave rose]

Neither the sms or SLB

[gaunt torrent]

Incursion is a 💩 show ... biggest FAILURE ever

[exotic storm]

The Mystery Box is Horrible!! Feel cheated

[high aurora]

My away team events were crits. Thanks for not including crit scoring….

[grave rose]

https://youtu.be/ZKIYRNhVjGw

[kindred aurora]

Lost the ability to see where my alliance's bases are on the galaxy map once the invasion started.
Very helpful for raiders. Much appreciated....

[verbal crag]

Critical ATA do NOT score points in the away team event!! 😱

[somber ocean]

Just came over to report the same!

Had two crits right off the bat - no points!

<@&509690795536941056>

[wanton summit]

How is it you never copy/paste the fixed events?

[hazy hare]

Why exocomp prize from incursion auto activate? It’s a wasted exocomp if I have builds running and can’t use it! 😡😡

[soft zealot]

agreed, that was unexpected...looked like exocomp token, but actually was just a insta-buff

[lyric cipher]

The biggest nonsense of Infinite Incursion, I can only see the ship, I have zero chance, because I don't even shoot. He will destroy me with one blow. I have yet to see a ship of my level let alone similar. ISS Jellyfish and Saladin are useless. I can't do anything and they just dig in. I won't do anything, I won't strain anything, and they will be smiling like sunshine. When he invents an event, at least it can be played. It should only be possible to have the same ships against each other. That's unfair. In order to participate and have a chance, I would have to be 10 levels higher, now I'm just a target. shove the event where the sun doesn't shine

[frail bridge]

Please take gain power out of the battle pass events

[sturdy fjord]

Fun fact whoever attacks first on EU servers will win…. Who is realistically going to invade another server between 11pm and 5am 😒

[sacred iron]

I don't really understand the point of this event. You could have made a server-vs-server zone. I haven't been able to fly a system far without being shot down by Lvl40+. I will now log out for 24 hours in the hope that you will reconsider this crap.

[snow solar]

Incursion is 💩💩

[ember kelp]

ATA Event CRIT scoring is still retrieving an hour into the event.

[turbid cosmos]

I don't have any coins for jumping to the other server and I won some through the incursion preparation event. Anything I can do?

[empty badger]

The critical success AT not scoring, the success AT works normally,

Complete 1 epic crit success (failed to score)
Complete 1 rare success (score correctly)
Complete 1 UC success (score correctly)

[mild glacier]

Is there going to be a compensation for the broken servers during the last incursion? The event was unplayable and some of us couldn’t even log in.

[south prism]

Can some one explaine how the SMS defence event works pls? Points are not counting.

[carmine steppe]

Where people get incursion conduit ? Player finished this event before

[primal hearth]

Ok.
Feedback for you.

1. Lots of players had no tokens. No idea why I didn’t. Apparently I missed events. Whatever.
2. At starts, plenty of ships of all levels. Later on. No one below 53 was on my server.
   To fix this, either fix the pvp levels . Stop laughing. Ok, since that won’t happen. Have a third server. Pick a merged server and have everyone with a token go there, have only certain systems count, and bracket it by warp levels.
3. 24 hours is a joke.overnight people changed a lot, if I wanted to fight at 3am I’d be on a euro server. Make this 12 hours and 3 hours each
4. Make this a WEEKEND THING. some people do have jobs.
5. Drop the raiding aspect. Make it pure pvp. And make them server only rewards. Plus how about making the leaderboards LOAD! I left mine on for 10 minutes and it’s still 90% retrieving, but I only have fiber internet.so maybe it’s me.

[light canyon]

This incursion event was stupid , no incursion token to do. Placed in an active bp arc , worst freaken event ever. No clear winner so out side of making more money off the guilible fools it was straight up pointless.

[frail bridge]

I didn't think it was that bad of an event most that complain are not pvp at all and it is a PvP game even scored seam fair the biggest ship u died to or killed gave more points that help full but need more free tokens to cross

[low grove]

I wonder how much you are getting bribed with to say that.

[primal hearth]

Probably got parsteel.

[hardy knoll]

I raided about 2b steel from the other server. Couldn't win a pvp battle because everyone was bigger than me, but that's nothing new

[frail bridge]

Didn't get anything. And I'm only level 32 with 9 million power but I still in my bracket was able to come across at 9th across the board and not a spender obviously. And our sever lost but barley

[ripe sierra]

Not even 1 rare AT mission available. This event is going to be so fun

[loud brook]

this event and within our own server, you need to limit attacks to no more than + or - 1 period.... it'll make the game fairer and maybe a little more fun....that event was zero fun.

[quiet cloud]

Still getting lag, my ship was in warp but was pulled out by an attacking player

[hollow flicker]

REV Duece is live and doing a unoffical incursion survey, go put in your 2 cents

[sudden egret]

Incursions was a total disaster IMO... not only did it lag super badly on my iPad it also paired us with an absolutely dead server (2 alliances / 41 total players) which made the SMS events almost impossible to score points. I f we'd been paired with an active server I'm sure the game would've been impossible to play.

[jovial zinc]

I have Snw officer in all 3 slots and field duty only awarding 5 points

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper I just had a great idea on how to get a better and more inclusive data on a event. Add a thumbs up/down option. If that’s possible that would be a easy option to get player feed back.

[halcyon fiber]

you cant have downvotes in 2022 anymore

[vagrant topaz]

I’m talking in game

[hard plume]

yeah it is so-called PVP. This game is the most unbalanced PVP i saw, and I saw a lot in the past. This event placing in an ARC along with other stuff to do and full of idiots just lurking for hit miner or swarm hunting frankies ....sorry don't name that an event.
I like PVP in a fair way face to face with compareable opponents, but here its like a light wieght boxer agains a heavy weight champion. so thanks god don't need to left the base for BP event doors closed and off the day^^

[halcyon fiber]

i'm talking in sarcasm 😅

[frail bridge]

100% agree that it's unbalanced they let the heavy spenders advance way too fast and way too far above non-spenders That needs to be fixed. And the only way I can see that is people who put in a lot of time get big rewards for that time they put in. The suspenders most time don't want to spend the time they want to spend the funds but not the time

[frail bridge]

Probably the reason why I didn't mind this event is the fact that our server just barely got opened up to 60 so most people are still in their 30s with a few in the early '40s and the server were fighting with similar And really I don't like the fact that they opened it from 39 straight to 60 they should have broken up in 10 levels and they should have held it at each of those so it took a while to build up to the for the next open up

[distant harness]

Inf. Inc. Was the Worst event in my time on STFC. Level 30 and i kept getting house by a level 45+ with no chance to score. Stupid and pointlessni spent 24 hours under a bubble and didnt even get dailies done.

[azure canyon]

@wanton copper hi! It seems I'm not getting any points in the cerritos event, second contact, while I'm on the other server.

[terse oasis]

perfect Mismatch between 186 and 164 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[dry shadow]

what its only 11.4 bil to 116.9 bil

now had any of those servers been matched up with either one of these servers it would have been a mismatch

[lapis perch]

Something that could do with fixing

[sacred iron]

@Scopely Is that really what you want? Or what you think that we want? I want to play a Story-Mission

[tardy iron]

@lyric lily You have essentially said that you do not care about player feedback. There is little point to play a game run by that attitude!

[brave tide]

Thanks to scopeley i have 24 hours of no events. There way too daily many events anyways so this cross server event warrants a day off and is welcome.

Just went to a low level system and started a 24h shield. These cross server thing are not and never have been fair. Only the whales have any chance.

Worthless events. So no thank you.

[chilly fiber]

At a time when war is really taking place, hostility must be sown in a game of all things. In the global chats there is only hostility. It is insulted, insulted. The infinite incursions event is just out of place. There is already enough tension between the individual alliances and now this is added to the mix. Scopely encourages hatred between players and alliances....

[subtle gorge]

Todays Away Teams isn’t tallying up correct. Criticals and Epics aren’t scoring.

[mystic copper]

this event is a complete failure.

[scarlet ore]

Worst event ever done. Some player don't like PvP and this évent forget them totally. It's a total crap

[low grove]

Pretty sure the 💩 emoji works just fine for a downvote.

[spare valley]

If you insist on bringing back this abomination of an event, do not do it during an arc. It completely shuts the game down for some people. The least you can do is screw us over when it hurts less in between arcs

[tacit dawn]

In my opinion this infinite incursion event is deeply flawed, since one is prevented from completing his dailies (e.g. mining) or even other events (e.g. hunting swarm ships). Most of the players of my alliance have just activated a 24h shield and left the game.
Scopely needs to think these things through before implementing anything...

[crystal cargo]

Its a big old pile of 💩

[plain void]

So Far PVP event on Server134 for incursion not Scoring FFS

[vagrant topaz]

I am not a fan of pvp, but sometimes I am ready to do it.
on the server of rivals the maximum level of the player is 46, mine is 52. none of them can even get to Dela.
I don’t even ask questions about the equality of forces and opportunities, however HOW CAN I PERFOM SMS?

[dry dew]

It's a waste of time that event, scopely wants probably the players to leave the game, so they can merge more servers and get rid of the ones that spend no money or not much

[high loom]

I strongly hope scopely does a survey soon. This event angered alot of people and caused alot of other glitches and complications... DO A SURVEY

[subtle oracle]

may be make it allaince ver allaince stongest allaice get x reward corss server

[uneven arrow]

So, over here people from the other server are barely coming over, our server is more than 1 year older than theirs, people sit around and do nothing. When I understand it right our attack will be from midnight to 6a.m. wow, what a time on a weekday

[light canyon]

Most don’t want the stupid event since it’s one for paying to win

[oblique ore]

This is again a whale event. You found only big players invading the server. smaller players remaining home or only cannonfodder...

[south geyser]

i did not asked to get milked by another server by players who are 10 levels higher than me normally if you try to hit a player more than 2 levels below you its not even possible and now they bring in unlimited higher levels?

[silent kelp]

Yeah i love getting smacked as a 41 by 57,54 ect its really fun🙃

[south geyser]

i play for the missions and not for continuously repairing my ships and base get those intrusions to quit and fast this is not why im playing

[neon herald]

My take on the event for what its worth... I hear everyone saying "it's a PVP game.", "biggest ships should win.", etc, etc.. I'm 47 so by no means a whale and since Ops 60 opened arguably a mid-level. I enjoyed the event when it wasn't a lag fest. The issue is that every server is kinda different, some (like mine) are very civil with easy ROE rules in place to make sure everyone has a fair chance to do their daily's and grind out the materials they need to progress and have fun. My server is very social, most people get along very well and treat people the way they would like to be treated. Make no mistake though, raiding and PVP happen all the time but its usually friendly. If they were to take a suggestion made earlier in this thread and create destination servers that are otherwise empty for the two servers to transfer to for the event and remove the RSS raid aspect of the scoring and just count pure hull damage when in the correct brackets or warp systems appropriate for the ship/ops levels this would be an event that I'd actually look forward to instead of one that very disruptive to the server itself, requiring relocation of bases, multiple shields throughout the event, etc.. As it is it looks like a pure money grab for what amounts to being a sweeper for a day.. Just my two bits.

[grave rose]

@uncut forges Any update on Epic Crit not working for the World Explorer event? I should have earned 3600 Xs 2 and have zero points. Opened a ticket multiple people have noted this issue but Radio Silence? Also burned about 4 days of speedups for this so I should be credited… @wanton copper

[light canyon]

Why this not complete I finished my bp completely 3 days ago so all I’ve been earning is heroic bp overflow

[cunning chasm]

Fully agree, this is pointless event and all those all out offense and defense task will not get any points as there is zero players in both systems

[lyric lily]

I can assure you this is a volunteer moderator initiative and is a test out of necessity given our limited time available to moderate.
This includes watching the discussions to make sure they remain respectful, as well as collecting the feedback from these channels to get a sense of how much support there is for the feedback given. It takes a lot of work but we feel it's too important not to do it.

In addition, there is now an #999215804916695110 specifically to provide your feedback with more visibility and to allow us to forward that feedback faster.

[south geyser]

pvp game ok but being a dumb farm for another server is no pvp normally you cant attack players more then 2 levels below yourself but now you're getting hit by players 10 levels or more above you thats not even a chance to get out on top of a fight. this is getting the older server a cheap chance of getting bonus points and the lower levels a kick in the face and back to simple mining to get their ships and base repaired while being shot at without any roe?

[prime cradle]

Server 164 vs 186. 164’s players are 10 times as powerful as 184’s. We’re cannon fodder to them. How is this supposed to be enjoyable? All you have done is made the game unplayable for the members of 186 for a day. This is supposed to be you big new shiny feature. What you have achieved for the player of 186 is another nail in the coffin. Either give us a match that is even or don’t bother running the event again. I’d rather have no event than be made to feel like our entire server is being used as a sacrificial goat.

[subtle oracle]

bring back the rules kill no one under tow levels then your self on server vers servers devs

[hoary dagger]

If this stupid event keeps running you'll be losing players.... we can't compete with 11mil and 26mil ships!

[sand tendon]

Yeah tbh Luna I agree, this has been a train wreck for us

[cloud oxide]

I really wish there were commas or otherwise made the score easier to read would be helpful.

[amber kayak]

Seriously ? Is this a joke ?

[tribal kindle]

no

[proud chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-bored-yawn-ali-g-gif-10978886

[hollow flicker]

@lyric lily the big issue is many of these issues were identified by the player base as possible issues before roll out ant the devs ignored it, or blew it off. So to a large percentage of players scopely did say we dont care. Its a vilid viewpoint under the circumstances.

[dusk gyro]

How empty a game in 24 h🤣

[hard zephyr]

@wanton copper are there going to be compensation packs sent out to the people who got locked out of the game for hours during the incursion?

[cunning chasm]

Not to mention other bugs, lags. glitches, plenty of time I could not see name on ship all all or it didn't show which server is player from (HOME []), very long times getting details about stations, red, green marking around ship or station sometimes did not show until I hit scan on them, no server or or green/red marking on mining ships either etc.

[south geyser]

are there compensation packs comming for players that didnt want to play this event but getting hit anyways?

[brittle hare]

Attacking empty bases gives points for incursions @wanton copper scoring is rigged

[dark pine]

The PvP SMS event is stupid. For us it has to be us throwing ships into them for a favour

[vapid meteor]

The display of total points for each server is just 2 unreadable massive numbers. Need to rethink scoring to make the numbers much smaller and add some number formatting so it’s readable

The pvp sms scoring is also heavily broken. I only get points for a lose, if I’m killed by a Kelvin tier ship or lower. This makes zero sense. I’m being hunted by people 10 lvls above me, with massive ships. My Kelvin is being destroyed over and over with a large repair bill and I gain no points at all. It needs to be scored based on what ship I lost, not what ship attacked me

[drowsy vine]

Is something being setup for una shards?

[sweet valve]

The incursion = Una and Subspace Relay

[violet pulsar]

Yeah, if people are meant to be growing from this, logs need to follow players home.

[violet pulsar]

Surely <@&509690795536941056> realises by now that scoring in SMS PvP events are largely rigged, so players aren't really playing them for fun, it's just getting points to extract rewards. "Blow up <class of ship> with <class of ship> in <system>", particularly when other components of the event score much more decisively for the actual incursion, are poor events.

The schedule for the SMS events was genuinely stupid. An SMS every six hours? No thanks.

[patent river]

It's overflow, meaning the days after you complete. Usually 3 fill it. I know some days are more pts than others. In past folks have just come up short of the final milestone. We still have 4 more days.

[vapid ocean]

How? I thought all 20+ systems meant no shields

[ornate grail]

Pounts on pvp yorba dont count

[errant belfry]

yep... only 1 person was there and he hit me and warped... I asked him back so he could just keep hitting me so I could complete it

[ornate grail]

Whats wrong with pvp event?

Yoruba pvp points dont add up. I get killed by multiple g3 and g4 ships but not getting any points in ongoing 4h event. Earlier worked fine.

[rancid fractal]

If the PvP zones were like territory capture events where you got points just for being there that would be cool. Especially if 'illegal' ships and ops levels were prevented from warping in there.

[viscid phoenix]

Incursions rock. That is all.

[fallow carbon]

It’s a pretty boring event tbh, if your below a certain level you are doomed and can’t really do a lot. A mobilised hi level alliance will swat anything

[frail bridge]

i still feel like is was not bad we had an even match and my sever is going over stats for next like i never seen before i see lots that don't like pvp complaining about a pvp game... but i thank they need to fix balancing issue with free and pay players and how many fast cash level come to make the pvp better. and do away with the single zone sms half the time no one in it to do it just making it kills or lol mining get people out of base to complete it.

[slim heron]

Not true. We had a level 31 player in the only open station housing right by a raid target. Multiple bigs from multiple alliances on both servers duking it out to defend or attack his miners trying to raid. It was a long epic fight. That little guy ended up first in his raid XSLB.

[worn shadow]

It needs to be a weekend event.

[mint berry]

Offence and defence was kind of counter productive. Because whoever has the most points at the end of the first round can just turtle up and ride it out just about. Just make it wide open, just a kill is a kill and a raid is a raid.

[low grove]

Wonder how much you are getting paid to say that.

[fringe tree]

After reset. World explorer event started. I completed an Epic mission. With crit success. No points for SLB or SMS. I reported this 8 hours ago. Still no points

[grave rose]

I finally got mine corrected after opening a ticket at 10am @fringe tree

[round shard]

163 is ridiculously stronger than 128. Yet, 128 will most likely win this event and by a lot. Reason: 128 few players (a handful) are having a field day at 163, whereas 163 players have no way to score because 128 is simply a desert! There's nothing to score on, zero. Good pairing. 👌

[lime rapids]

sitting this one out. boring and disruptive.

[fringe tree]

I open the ticket along time ago but still not corrected

[fringe tree]

The Incursion event is misguided attempt to make the game more interesting. What they fail to realize is many servers are FarmVille based. No real@pvp. Territory capture was epic failure and stagnant. Incursions is a money grab for the few. But boring to switch servers and scout for bases or ships And the PvP systems are empty. 🙂

[past bronze]

Incursion event I hate it. No need to have my base attacked over and over again. Can't do other dalies or events. So I'm parking up shielding up and walking away and evaluating why I have given so much of my life to this......

[marsh aspen]

Where are the crossover tokens i had earlier???

[fringe tree]

Same for me. What happened to the INCURSION crossover tokens for going back and forth between servers. They are now gone from inventory

[summer jasper]

The incursion event was fun. However scopley you guys need to figure out a way to properly gauge servers!!! Our server was up against a server where one alliance there had more 50+ players than our entire server combined. Come on!!!!

May I suggest a tiered win/loss system. Winning server goes up a tier and losing server goes down a tier. And then servers are randomly put against other servers in that tier, for the next incursion event. Then at least servers will eventually find the balance they need.

At least this way if you get decimated your server won’t be up against the same overpowered server every single time. It’s stupid.

[north crater]

incursion 😂 😂 encore un evenement qui n'ait pas du tout réfléchi par les programmeurs !déséquilibre total des forces des 55 peuvent taper des 30.....
pareil pour le cycle attaque défense il semblerait qu'entre minuit et 6h du matin,les gens dorment à ce moment où et donc l'équilibre des heures entre attaque et défense!'😂😂
comme d habitude scopely se fou des joueurs !

[outer brook]

Servers are ghost towns. People score for the sms by sending surveys to get destroyed. People score for the slb by „raiding“ empty bases over and over again. That’s incursions.

[vapid meteor]

Great idea to have incursion exocomps work completely differently to regular, and only explain the difference on the screen where you use them, not buy them

Bought 2 to prepare for later, and one of them is gone

Shocked at whoever thought this was ready to go. Been a disaster so far

[dreamy garden]

Really no fun with that Event... Normal play, farming... Not possible..had 11 surveys killed bevore I got 25k for daily.... In pvp System my enterprise was shot by a 12 Mil. Pilum... Hope this Event ends soon an never comes back

[abstract crater]

Stop the incursion events, or if they must continue make miners immune from attack while they are on.

[unique hound]

@wanton copper
Incursion event is great fun so far!
It has been really sportive and fair from both sides!

[past spoke]

@wanton copper I’m on server 162eu. So I was pessimistic about incursions, overall thoughts….it’s ok….not brill but not bad….some lag from time to time but bearable, odd glitch now and again ie not able to repair damaged ships but that happened once. What makes incursion is your server activity. 162 has been abit torn from server merge but we have all come together and enjoying incursions. Server 159 is of equal power ships etc. we desperately need better rewards I can’t be bothered to use a conduit token to complete the sms as the rewards are ore and steel like a ton of other events we have been having. The xslb again rewards meh need more. I can’t see incursions been a staple event ie twice a year sure but as it stands rewards very poor for our invested time, if servers don’t come together it’s just boring and dull. I’m ops 44 highest ship is 8.5m so I’m no whale I’ve had some wins losses and good raids! I would not like this event every month like I said twice a year sure

[spring island]

also lower points for raid resources (resources is direct reword) and increase points from PvP (no direct reword only direct repairing cost), and better rowords for server event

[subtle oracle]

can we have that for server 113 its far from equal thank you

[viscid patio]

no incursion conduit supplied for been able to take part in event.. Where did it mention one of these was needed in brief of event? you should only have people who have this been part of the event rather than forcing everyone to partake and not get points if they win on a defensive battle for alliance.. Not very well thought out this incurrsion event in my eyes.

[austere tapir]

Incursion is the worst event ever. Especially that you allow Players from other Servers to disturb takeovers also the Issue concerning shielding of bases. All i See is an event that is Not well-thought-out. Hope it won‘t return.

[ashen heath]

Really guys!! I am going to quit! This event is the worst we have ever had!! Our strongest player on the server is Lvl 52 - and the opponent server has several Lvl 55+! They are just smashing us! There should have been at least some borders! Why the hell can a Lvl 57 player with a 114 M ship kill players below Lvl 40?! In order to get points in the relevant systems you need to kill or get killed by just some special ships - such big whales are just bombing everything and everyone! I bet there will be soooo many players quitting the game after this horrible event! It’s a shame!! Really! Shame on you guys!! @wanton copper <@&509691205798592532>

[untold crest]

<@&509691205798592532> that event is the biggest 💩 that u guys put up on Events since ever. The Server Matching is awfull... we cant handle lvl 58 players if the highest ones by us are just 47 to 49. The half Server cant join fighting in case of the missing tokens. The ones who cant jump Crossover couldnt Do anything in case of being bullied of These many lvl 58 players around. Cant even Do normal dailys...

[tall wharf]

Our server is so united that players are sending out base locations on GC so the other server can get free points as well as an Alliance sending Disco's out against 2m+ ships to get destroyed so we lose 🤦🏻 So what's the point of even waisting my time I might as well just raid my own server. I've just done enough since yesterday for battle pass and daily chests. I won't do anything more.

What they should do is give people the option to stay on the other server if they don't want to go back to their toxic server 😂

[inland goblet]

Scopeley screwed up again.
My base stuck between two servers, and I can't log in.

GREAT JOB!!!

[vagrant topaz]

The only way incursions would work is if the PvP bands were narrowed significantly, different levels have different allocated PvP systems. Instead either whales bash everyone or everyone turtles. Server transfer went smoothly for me and lag wasn't an issue, likely because so few people participated

[lost kite]

On my server we have 10,000 heavily armed Watusi warriors, with sharpened Guava fruit.
They have no chance against an army equipped with multiple long range Gatling cannon.

As said above, this Event was not well thought out, and how Scopely believes the pairings are equitable just beggars belief.

[exotic oyster]

Y'all are so dramatic.

[stray topaz]

I usually take only a passing interest in events but I felt the need to discuss this particular event because I find it absolutely intolerable.
Usually when an event is running, I can participate or ignore it. But this time I cannot step outside my peace shield without getting clobbered - and I have to keep my peace shield up to stay out of it.
I can't mine, I can't complete other missions. I just have to duck & hide until it is over.
For me, this event did for STFC what COVID-19 did to the Entertainment industry

[mystic solstice]

Incursion event is just an excuse for Scopely to take more money off those players with deep pockets and in the process ruin the game for others who don’t want to play for pvp

[past bronze]

Please please please end our pain please please listen to our crys please please end this event please please please please!

[mystic creek]

Incursions suked

[modern urchin]

Please fix the pvp banding and rework battle mechanics. Then perhaps take over and pvp events would be more stratagy rather ths than I have a bigger ship then you so i win

[worn shadow]

Not going to happen! It would upset the Whales.

[modern urchin]

I'm all for a whale being able to koll a smakleer guy, the issue is that he can kill an entire fleet of players while only scratching his paint

[gritty void]

I'm enjoying the event but think it'd be best done between arcs and tbh I think the scoring is majorly flawed due to the amalgam's ship ability. That ability means that one or two successful hits on a sufficiently rich target is worth more than hours of raiding on more ordinary bases. For a server scored event this could mean that even if the vast majority of players are scoring more than they're losing on Server A, one good raid on a whale from their server could overturn the scoring completely in favour of Server B..

[chilly thicket]

Incursion event; possibly the most stupid, lame-brained idea that Scopely have dreamed up. Obviously the thinking went like this …. Great idea. We’ll get players with 3,4,5 mill (and above ships) to transfer to another server. While there they can hit those incredibly difficult 50, 100, 200k survey ships. This will stop things dead for the home server and they will love it, NOT. Stupid beyond words Scoopely.

[halcyon fiber]

Dear scopely, its beyond me that you didnt learn from the TC PVP Event, but please, can you deactivate scoring from cracked bases. Everyone is just farming dead bases for scores now

[halcyon fiber]

yeah, we won the event within the first hour with getting a few amalgams full of stuff from a lvl 52 guy with. It was said that his hatred to his own server people was so big, he lost the event for them on purpose

[round walrus]

Scopley, incursion event is crap .... never saw such an unbalanced bug ....i mean feature ...

[vagrant topaz]

Incursions event is a total disappointment...
our rival server has no players above level 46 and none of them can even get to my pvp system Dela. I basically can not even perform SMS. the event shop is useless.
Month of pretentious announcements ended in nothing. the organization of the event is disgusting.
I'm not against pvp as such, but its requires a clear work of the development team and consideration of all possible options, as well as work with the balance of power. tasks in the "fly there and kill 15 ships" option do not work in pvp. stfc team is not even able to properly test their updates, not to mention thinking through all the options for pvp events. the goals of profit so dominates the decisions that the game gets worse and worse.
the event is completely failed.
nevertheless, I must admit, the idea itself is not so bad. with proper settings for calculating points, alignment of forces, permissions of variability in the performance of tasks in events, maybe increasing the number of servers, and so on, this can be a not bad event

[gleaming cosmos]

Why slow mo….

[pseudo coral]

The event for a level 29 has just been boring. The galaxy is deserted and it seems mainly for level45 and above to raid bases. At the beginning there were some level 30's pouring into 1 system(Narendra), although 2 were mentioned, other was empty. That was it. There should be alerts flooding the server, npc stations and anomalies ripping through as events etc. Turned out for my level it was a few minutes of too many players desperately trying to hit a few ships.

[obtuse wraith]

Quite enjoyed incursions, I haven’t raided this much in ages. Luckily for my playtime I am at ill at home, no way I could do this on a workday plus family in the evening.

Also the 6h SMS are a fail, right now there are 12 ships of my server waiting to fight in the PvP system of ops 49. Good idea with more points for shooting up , less for shooting down, but it needs to be wider: match it to the PvP brakets and remove the system lock. Instead one system gives a point multiplier. Make the bonus system with Housing.

[rare silo]

As a 6 man Alliance this event is roughballs to complete :\ (oh wait I see the incursion specific room)

[sand sky]

The incursion events needs to be better organised player level wise. You need to have areas for lower level players to participate that is not going to be full of players 5 10 15 20 levels higher. Maybe only a level or at most 2 higher.

[halcyon fiber]

to be fair, you cant cater to everyone, bad choices are your own fault

[exotic storm]

Well, our server hasn’t even had the chance to play/participate (192), which is disappointing

[fresh frost]

For six people, you did blooming well 😂

[empty badger]

BTW it's not alliance milestones event - it's server milestones, if you can finish it, its your server fault

[rare silo]

clearly states Alliance

[muted wren]

By far the best event I have ever been part of since the launch of the game. Thank u scoply for bringing this event, 👍👌👍👌👍👌

[rare silo]

Choices are my own yes, but bit presumption to call it a bad one. Very happy with my Alliance tyvm 🙂 Just frustrating that some event goals are so far off for smaller sizes.

[carmine quiver]

Infinite incursions: make it an event players ‘join.’

Those who want to do it can and those who do not want to take part do not have to.
Their chips give no event points, their peace shields hold, and raiding them is just a raid for resources.

So blowing up and empty ship is just damage to player ships.

[fast notch]

Feedback to this Event: totaly crap

just for the Whales nothing for everyone. 24hours most are offline

just an horrible Event Idea

[halcyon fiber]

well, mechanics wise it is a pretty bad decision, you cant talk around that, you are proving it yourself 🙂

@fast notch weird, lots of no Whale players from my server and the opposing had fun

[rare silo]

With the exception of this particular event being "crucial" to upgrading a building, the AMS rewards are usually not enticing enough to push hard for, so in this particular case it will bite, but otherwise it's just fine.

[white bramble]

It’s the alliance event

[modest flame]

it would be nice if the event descriptions were precise
Xp off / Xp ship are not taken into account

[obtuse sapphire]

Battleship kills of explorers aren't registering at all.

[manic estuary]

A little more than 1/10 of the sms for a lvl 39 defense station??? What total BS!!

[white bramble]

This has been passed on. Once we have an answer we will let you know which scoring card is correct 🖖

[dark pine]

Does Stella work for that Battleship event?

[fervent laurel]

It should, yes

[frank spindle]

Same here, description is wrong in german

[obtuse sapphire]

Wow! Restarted the game and no there are NO events at all. I should have 32 pts for the 8 20-21 explorers I killed with my Talla.

[paper cape]

Display of Dominance immediately after a domination bp event. Seriously? What kind of planet is that sensible on? 🙈

[obtuse sapphire]

Apparently Fed combat ships (explorers) don't count.

[fervent laurel]

Getting attacked by faction hunters doesn't count for events. You need to actually target and attack ships

[arctic hill]

Edit: wrong channel

[manic estuary]

I didn't love it but the suggested 2 instead of 4 would be a great improvement

[sweet valve]

Display of Dominance SMS should be labeled heroic. Just as bad as the incursion prep event and the incursion one was most likely a copy/paste hence why it was so hard.

[earnest sage]

@wanton copper any thoughts about a monthly PvP event for individual servers? Similar to incursion but without crossing over etc. Shields dropped in the same way etc etc

[hazy hare]

There is no more events incoming for triumph tokens reward?

[quartz lava]

Hey @wanton copper, when are the alliances from the other Incursion Server going to fall off our Power Rankings? It's making my alliance feel a lot smaller... 😑

[mint lake]

Maybe there's another Surprise incursion coming 👀

[hollow flicker]

nah they can stay its helping motivate some alliances.. lol...

[polar berry]

@wanton copper On behalf of EU server 124 and 125: a big thank you for the event. It was a fantastic smooth ride, we had a ton of fun. Servers were well matched, there was zero lag. Scores went up and down, excitement till the last minute.

[unique badger]

In my opinion the event is way to hard to score.. especially without Ship ep

[light canyon]

Yo scopley I think you forgot to do Thimph tokens, all these snw events yet no freaken triumph tokens that’s total bs!!

[hot bluff]

Small Incursion bug-noticed it changed the system where my mission related hostiles are based for missions that had a point that generated in my home system, e.g. Combat Training Veteran. Normally the "nearby" mission point stays in the system where it is originally generated, but jumping back and forth between servers switched it the system I came back to after Incursions. Not a big deal, but maybe some missions could cause a problem.

[lyric cipher]

I was completing the Defensive Ops: All out defense event but it didn't start counting my points so I stopped after 4 attempts. I will not let myself be destroyed for nothing. I only had to add one loss to fulfill it

[safe cloud]

Do the next infinite incursion event on a weekend and not in the middle of the week.

[wise elbow]

Incursion was a nice idea. 🛑BUT THE BIG PROBLEM🛑are the relocation token... i've spended all of my token of the last 2 month... there should be the option to get more.. a pack of 50, to buy for maybe 10€ MAX!, to get 50 as a reward for event, to buy a pack of 50 in allistore.. however, we need more of them to enjoy the event by 100%!!!

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper the latinum events this month have been really helpful as an ops 34 player👍

[white bramble]

Score the cheapest point you can so you can claim your ALB rewards when it’s done 😬😬😬

[vagrant topaz]

I'll definitely finish the sms I just haven't started on it yet. Generally happy with the lat events this month. I was able to do some stuff I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise

[white bramble]

Yeah they are awesome. I’m skipping this one as I don’t want to burn speed ups

[spark cypress]

Scoring pvp pts for attacking an open base(defences all destroyed) should be removed. Spaming attack on an empty base giving points seems wrong.

[vernal isle]

The new display of dominance events are trash with trash rewards.

[swift rain]

agreed i just came here to complain about this lol

i have to spend more lat on DoD then i get back to complete. ops 41

[mighty star]

You are always able to express yourself so clearly and unmistakingly. Have a lot to learn

[patent river]

This is constructive feedback? Issue a complaint without a potential fix or way it can improve?

[vernal isle]

🤣. For higher ops people it really is though. They took away ship xp and officer xp from scoring, defense platforms no longer score anywhere near what they used to before this event came around, and the lat rewards are pitiful compared to what has to be used in speedups or lat to create speedups in order to finish enough builds or researches to finish the event. And the ultra recruit tokens? There are numerous daily events a week that award those and at a better ROI. If anything, it’s a booby prize for people who are bad at math and just chase any and every event set in front of them.

[mighty star]

Ops 51+ standard event rewards are significantly better

[midnight chasm]

I have been grinding for nearly 6 hours and still have not completed the Ortegas Explorer Event. It's also affected my Hostile Hunt Event.

[wanton anvil]

Agreed DoD rewards are rubbish… requires too much. Skipping the event

[brazen current]

Incursions Event. The Event where you have a use for the 24 hours shilds and call all your Friends you havent called Long Time ago. And the best, it do not interfear with the dailys, as the start sooner/later.

[carmine quiver]

Having the event exocomp reward(s) activate immediately you win it is totally pants.
I mean totally totally carp reward.
It was a build speed booster for me.
It does not count towards building projects already in progress.
I had two building projects already going, both with a fair number of days left.

The reward, in effect, would expire before it was of use.

Now, if it was like other exocomps, activated on demand, it would have been useful.

It’s like giving someone an ice-lolly in the middle of winter, and telling them they have to eat it there and then. I want to put it in the freezer and save if for a hot summer day. . . .

[mighty star]

annoyed me as well. makes it nearly useless

[carmine quiver]

Indeed.

[mighty star]

My server lost today. The exocomp is as you describe nearly useless. So as far as i am concerned i lost only 2 shards and 750 whatever—that—is—called

[icy marsh]

My exocomps says 75% build speed. Is that to buildings? Ships?

[mighty star]

ops level dependent - and see - now you cant keep it until you progress on ops

An example for an exocomp with ops based tiering

[carmine quiver]

So, the rewards vary, as expected.

Their usefulness varies form a fart in a hurricane to actually useful.

Why offer/give rewards that are not of any use?

I have an automated watering system for my plants. It is useful.

I also can find a little wooden stick.

The event gave a little wooden stick.

[mighty star]

hmm, not necessarily. On higher ops levels you will have better research. 200% sounds cool but it is effectively only +20% for me

[subtle oracle]

daily event we keep not keeting coomand driectives to attack amader stations. But would it not be better to give use x amount of coils per day so we can build the unit on our station as, evean I been given the units to attact amader station but stll asked me to build the unit before I can attack so having coils in daily will be much more use full

keep getting*

[wraith basalt]

To me it seems like the 75% module build speed increase (Incursion exocomp OPS30) does not do anything. Upgrading a Dilithium Generator (lvl 29 --> 30) takes 1 day and 4 hours (new started), and I'm sure the normal time is not 4 days 16 hours.

[small narwhal]

75% speed increase doesn’t mean it takes a quarter of the time. Firstly it’s a base speed increase, and even if it were to total, it would take 1/1.75 or about 57% of the normal time.

[wraith basalt]

Yea, math is not my strong point 🙂 I just read it as, it would take 25% of the normal time it would usually take for a building to complete, with this exo - So basically what someone else a few posts back said, it's a useless buff

[fresh frost]

Ops 30 most of your structures are only in the 2-3 day length, so no it won't show up much... higher levels it's actually a sizable amount 😄