#💬-events-feedback
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🤣 I have them, they barely get enough polys for the people who have the ship I think.
As usual scopely events are really well thought out, I mean why else come up with events that are pretty much impossible to do without paying? I get making money but at least put heroic tags so most people know not to even bother.
only 5 days, but there is like 30 different tasks and that's just for this one event, not counting battlepass, dailies, other daily events and grinding for multiple specialty ships. Plus there are other crazy tasks like spending 10k G6 rare and 30k G6 uncommon, I can only spent rare on drydocs at moment and its only 1500 per dock and its nearly 7 days and would need to do 7 of them with 1.5m latinum per day speedups, plus another 2-6 days speedups for buildings already in queue. Not to mention I am getting close to unlock Titan for which I am saving past few months and don't wan't just to burn through half of my resources pointlessly just because of one event and screw myself on progress. And I could go on and on for other things in this event.
How can a G5 player complete this event? Or at least one milestone?
Again; they should force all scopely employees and contractors to do ALL they put on to us before release. This is insulting, extremely timeconsuming and a lot simply impossible, by example 47 krenim solo, 90 elite solo waves. Unbelievable
jesus christ on the cross can you guys come up with a more rediculous loop than this?? only able to mine 5k material before the ship blows up due to hazzards
Also needing over 100k for even 1 pull from the refinery really? I need to repair my miner 20 times just to do one pull and the ammount of time thats going to take out of my day??
if you will pardon my language what a dumb ass idea that is
As for your engage event again its a loooooong loop when you have been told time and time again the grind is too much I know of an ops 70 player who just flat quit the game yesterday evening because of the loop/time/money these are the guys who keep your game profitable and your pushing them away great move
Score for this loop? 2/10 at best sooo much even I cant do at ops 58 with the time I have available.
MUST DO BETTER
Just so you know what I am looking at here are my miners and the values v the remaing hull of the ship totally rediculous
No Milestone of this Event can be done ☝️
I'd like to point something out to all of us who are upset about the new grinds this arc has added...
This is just part 1 of 3. Let that sink in tor a minute. 🤣
There aren't enough Transogen nodes. The milestones are ludicrously high for the events. There is too much to do - I enjoyed the first time the Boldly Go events ran, but this time, on top of the punitive Flashpoint events, there just isn't enough time to meet every goal.
It’s still 8 full waves, which most won’t have the ciphers to do either
Not even touching this cr.p with a stick.
Talked with one of our member who reached 15m. He had to unlock the whole battlepass to up his building to lvl30 and he’s mining in token systems. He doubt he will reach the t1 of the event… Paywall event for players who don’t have hazard protection 😬
I don’t have enough time for this
Hazard systems for those under lvl 60? Lame. ☑️
Poor mining rates even with upgraded buildings? ☑️
Lousy events with too much grind for long and short term 💩 payouts? ☑️
Failure to fix existing core gameplay, despite the protestations from the playing audience? ☑️
$100 packs? I can buy a PS5/Xbox game with better game play value! ☑️
A clunky UI that was good for 2019, but in 2025? Naw, do better. Sliders for everything. ☑️
Spending 20 minutes of my day collecting refineries, faction stores, etc. is tedious. ☑️
I quit. ☑️
<@&509690795536941056> Ops 63 players having the same transogen goals as an ops 70 really makes me think zero thought was placed in the scoring metrics, I don't have access to g6 faction miners etc
Just saw this myself impossible unless you buy which is what they want
ok I'm a G5 player and on these new refines I will have to pay 100+ times what a G4 player pays for the same return of loot? Did someone forget to increase the payoff with the cost increase? Well I'll be collecting stuff for now. But not turning stuff in till this is addressed.
Can you auto complete the current hostile event? With these server issues it is impossible to kill enough hostiles.
Well... I think I won't finish this. Mining with four ships atm.
its an impossible thing only if you buy more building parts and upgrade that to get the mining speed it gives you will you MAYBE finish this
Why do we have to mine in the mission system when half the server is in there sitting on the few mines?
this arc is another skip arc, an apparently 6 month skip arc which I think i like it gives me time to focus on other things and catchup with. Thank you for the break from new content Scopley I will enjoy it
<@&509690795536941056> is there supposed to be a transogen research tree right now? That button does nothing.
AlWays remember, Scamley business model s about making money, NOT player satisfaction
How is it, when my bulk refines are set the same that I have three different values for the “mining” refine for 4* mats?
Mine says negative on the ore
What a joke, 10 officer shards and a 10 pull of one of these for completing boldly go? It should be a full unlock at minimum based on time commitment to complete. <@&509690795536941056>
Its a Mining Event that only a Selkie can complete which indicates favoritism for the Higher Levels.
Can we stop releasing ridiculous grind events that are designed for scoring as if the ship (Revenant, USS Reliant, now USS Vengeance) already existed and was of the appropriate level. At Ops 62, if the forge had existed the entire time and I had leveled it up to max, I would have 9k% common mining boost, 30k% for Rare, compared to the 1600 and 3100 I have at tier 6. As of 24 hours of mining, I MAY have hit the first milestone in the Transogen miner event (30M of 303M).
Same with the kill missions, the Revenant release was fairly smooth for those at level 40, they could kill what was required and get decent points for those kills. An ops 60+ was required to kill an insane amount of lower (than 60) mobs to complete the event as the only ship that could kill them was impossible to have at a level that could do it.
These events need a rollup period, where the initial goals are achievable without the ship or with a T1 ship, and gradually increases to the players OPS level over a period of weeks/months.
Sure, only an OPS 60 player doesn't have a Selkie
And another quality release.
There are too many events, and quite a few unbalanced. !
Unreachable milestones under normal time. We also have a life... Transogen mining SMS is impossible. I won't mine 10 hours to barely have chest pull of common stuff. Trellium mining is kinda the same
That's another paywall in disguised in SMS event. Unless you have the building upgraded quite a bit, this is impossible to do.
How below OPS 61 players can compete without forcing them to buy the Hazard prime to have a chance to score ?!
Same story for Elite wave defense completion task... Even with a decent GS31 it's complicated, with the possibility to only call one (or sometimes 2 ) a day... and it's not fun to play either.
I'm very frustrated and disappointed. i should be confortable with the fact this is now a pay to win, but this is going to far in my opinion.
Why am I that angry with this arc ? while it's expected to be a funny game :/
This Transogen Mining event shows that only a Selkie can complete and mine Transogen efficiently. The Proof is seen here in the Screen shots. <@&509691205798592532> and <@&509690795536941056> how does this Transogen Event benefit players below level 50 who don't have a Selkie? The point system and time allotted even proves anyone without a selkie can barely score in the Mining Event. This is disappointing.
ops 61 here. we're almost a full day in on this transogen mining event, and only 3 people in my bracket on the server have finished the SMS. only another 10 in my bracket on the server are even half way. i have 3 selkies, but i also have a full time job. i worked at it for hours last night and barely scratched the mining SMS or the hostile SMS. these are massively miscalibrated. <@&509690795536941056> please adjust!
having trouble with the refining task
See there #⭐-official-announcements message
I hope we will get that comp chest soon
Does the Borg Cutting Beam not count as a Ship Active Ability?
it's now almost unbearable and is getting worse from time to time.
as a former g4 player, it feels like someone is desperately trying to stop your progress and scare you out of the game.
it's simply impossible as a g4 player (without hazard protection 🤣 ) to mine the required quantities.
the systems are full to bursting, the hazard means you're quickly finished off. how is that supposed to work? not at all!
in addition, the big money players partly block the new systems to prevent progress for everyone else. but that's another big (bullying) problem...
you are doing everything you can to achieve the opposite of what you want: money.
many players i know are not spending any more money, even though they would like to.
a game should be fun in the first place, instead only frustration grows and you will lose a lot of future whales if the path does not change.
The problem with the refining tasks is that if you dock the raw materials it subtracts from your count.
18th in the mining SLB but not even at the 1st Milestone on the SMS...are the Milestones intentionally set unavailable to "encourage" us to spend on the Transogen refinery upgrades?
<@&509690795536941056> tell them to ADJUST THE MILESTONES STAT.
Mat spending in the Engage / Boldly Go / Mak'ala's Cruicible event (why does this event have 3 different names??) does not work: I spent more than 2 k of UC 6* mats, but I am still at zero.
The difference in battlepass between 20-29 and 30-39 feels really good. Levelled up so I could do the 30+ content but stuck with the inferior battlepass eg no transogen forge foundations. I am however expected to compete against players that get these for free.
1 day in and bored as theres never any transogen mining nodes availible.
Yeah this is my first time noticing this. There ain’t no way I’m going to be able to complete that. I’m totally out of solo wave ciphers right now. I also don’t have the GS31, so doing elite solos is probably not so easy idk tho. Someone feel free to message me to let me know if I should risk the ciphers to try it. I’m scurrrred.
Dude yeah honestly kind of right there with ya. That video was EXTREMELY frustrating to watch as someone who ACTUALLY plays the game unlike the people in that video. Scopely’s bad decisions with this game have already driven off so many awesome people… my alliance has been lucky the attrition hasn’t hit us that hard yet. I’ll stick around, but this stuff gets sooooo old. Skipping certain events at this point is definitely the move because Scopely just doesn’t understand what’s reasonable. They could never understand. They don’t play their own game.
I'm second on my slb and just passed the first milestone .......
Third on mine, and nowhere close. Congrats on hitting that first milestone!
What level did you get your building at? What ops and what not? Trying to see if there's SOMETHING missing that would not make this increasingly stupid
When is the compensation for below ops 40? Also when is the compensation coming for level 35s with no battlepass?
They'd make more money, and have less expenses, if players were more satisfied.
I'm ops 56, using a t7 nova. Building is lvl7. Crazy i can be top 3 on slb and still not finish the SMS
t10 rev, scrapped at max lv, rebuilt, but short of 1600 rare parts of reach t10 again, is this a bug
You have to unlock and activate the skin (doesn't have to be equipped) after it's scrapped and before any leveling/tiering is done.
I've had this happen to some of my team, and they were able to put in a ticket and Scopely helped them out.... ymmv
The rewards for the Crucible of Makala are terrible. A small chance to even get an officer? Ooof…. I ain’t grinding like this for some mats. That’s for sure.
They are basically the Dabo wheel crap. Makes me feel better about not wanting to do the crap. The FOMO is weak 😋
The event store? Complete and utter trash. Give me choices that I KNOW I'm getting with a click, not this roulette wheel of stupidity dealio. Y'all should be embarrassed.
Which I refuse to do just to participate in events. I buy when something adds significant value to the game, or is genuinely fun. I refuse to buy simply to participate.
So the Mak'Ala Crucible doesn't reset at the same time for all players - well done Scopely
Unfortunately it's par for the course with Scopely, impossible milestones without any thought put into it, the transogen mining milestones are insane, polygon armada rubbish again, mass elite wave defense.
One of these days scopely might pay attention to what milestones they set so they are actually achievable by making them manageable instead of giving us milestones stupidly high that are pretty much impossible to do, because we don't have the directives/ciphers to do them
I know beginnings of arcs are usually slow, but are there seriously no new events today, aside from the BP and daily/weekly recurring events? Edit: Arc events, specifically. I know there's the Boldly Go ones.
Why is the battlepass event for away teams 9k points to complete? It’s supposed to be 3200!
Any chance of suliban runner hostiles that a low g6 player can do that drop rare 6* cannisters?
Currently "lowest" are 46 Billion power hostiles sitting in L66 system
Must be """""""""hErOiC""""""""" versions.
Come on brother man, that’s “inflation”. (And if you came up to 61+ plus with me, you see all kinds of inflation.
More like time/desire to play/soul killing game structure.
Tell me you don’t know a thing about how to make a profitable AND player friendly game: “I work for scopy” 😜
<@&509690795536941056> Would be great to see a season pass (like the waves pass) for Arenas to incentivize players to play it.
I know some people can't play on Mondays so they may feel left out but I think it would help bring more players to it.
Rewards such as premium mirror dust, war room upgrades, PVP Officer shards etc. would be a good start. @rose ice Thank you
Is there really no spend event scheduled for this weekend and the following?
25 Borg Polygon for the Mak'ala Crucible event makes the Trellium mining events look reasonable. For alliances that run these regularly no change to complete 25. <@&509690795536941056>
How about ships not fully executing commands? For example, command to attack ship starts to move then stops. Having to command it again to make it do what you want it do. Warping home stops short of entering base with infinite timer. Have to restart the game, then command the ship to go home. This really needs to be addressed.
some of us can only play 3 hours a day - family and work commitments come first - how can we possibly finish 5 events, all the dailies, makala's crucible, plus all the grinding we have to do just to advance. I don't have any money to throw at this game so don't even go there. Day 2 we need 60 armadas. we can't possibly do 60 of those in 3 hours - even with speedups.
not that this is a defense of that, but you don't have to complete all the mak'ala stuff the day it comes out. you have today and the next five days to complete everything. that includes the stuff on days 3/4/5; you just won't be able to claim the rewards just yet
I would like an answer to this as well
Ummm...so I use two platforms, depending on where I am at. With this Transogen Event, I am getting two different responses. On one platform, I have the Forge I started building yesterday but no Transogen Events. On the other platform, not only does it not have the Forge, it won't even let me build one. Oh...and it does have the Transogen Event.
have you updated the game on both platforms?
I’m getting nailed with. The recall stopping before the ship leaves the system. Iovely when you try to recall a ship from hazard space and then step away from game
Thank you. That fixed it.
getting the rewards is the whole reason for even trying to do all of these things
right, but ignoring one of the Boldly Go events today doesn't preclude you from finishing it tomorrow or the next day and claiming it then
Battle pass event only gave me 450 points for a rare P1 ATA. Should be 4500.
That idea is DOA. Only the seal clobbers and the Scopy Rabbits 🐇 will be present. Just like now.
I know you’re kidding, but this isn’t related to ops inflation
Oh heck no it isn’t, it’s frog in a boiling pot syndrome, they are just cranking up the heat. And they don’t play so they have no realistic/reasonable idea what effect it will have. Definitely NOT the one they want. I am back to not even buying the bp’s again. Way to go, lose a customer you GAINED back. 🙄.
Total time required doesn’t change
any suggestions for improving the attraction to arenas? I couldn't think of much else. I'm not high ops so I don't know what its like in G6, have heard some bad things
Back in the day the trait xp was worth 10pts and it was trivially completed with any upgrade. With the introduction of P1ATA, the event was updated and trait xp value reduced. It's harder now, but I think still easily doable.
do anyone else have the problem with polygon armadas? we do them and would definetly beat them but they disapear without beeing defeated or count for the event
Mak'alas
day 3
Solo Armadas
Max 25 that u must do
but u get only 14 every week? How?
Come on. Who the heck is saving THAT MANY directives for Krenim solos. I have enough for 19 and I thought that was good! 25 is a huge ask. Anyone who did Krenim solos before these events started is SCREWED hahahahaha (same with the polygon armada BS except that one is WAY worse at only 100 directives per WEEK vs. 100 per DAY for Krenim)
Actually band contestants based on available ships and research as opposed to ops levels. But that would honk off whales. There is NO way for scopy to make arenas work. Because they have NO CLUE what they are doing when it comes to pvp. As evidenced by 6 years of players complaining about the disparity between power levels.
Lots of ideas, but none that haven’t been floated and outright rejected.
Just another example that scopes isn’t about success, they are about being locusts, draining us of money and time with minimal effort on their part.
We are running out of Polys that are not broken..are we supposed to do the little ones then ? XD
Today at ops 14.
Other than putting missions keys in a rebranded category, there’s no indication that there’s even a new arc happening. Nothing to do. No way to source new officers via gameplay. Total exclusion. This has never happened before.
You don't want the new arc. Cash progression all the way.
yea its cooked, they can't implement that 
We don’t need more passes for Scopley to try and sell.
We have run 11 Borg Polys across 4 systems. We have gotten credit for 6 of them. Remove this requirement and comp the borg poly stages - this is bugged beyond belief and is a complete waste of resources. These should never have been included as they have been reported as bugged for literally months now.
This is not simply unrealistic - it is literally impossible because of your bug.
People that designed these events and the WoK pts 1&2 events DO NOT PLAY THE GAME.
We’re losing 2 high g6 players and 1 70 this week already. Definitely the final straw for many. But they will make so much money off of the 1% for that ship, they won’t notice. So. They won’t care
They probably do...But can fiddle with the events to auto complete them 🤣
I like the idea of the crucible but please label as heroic those events that are simply impossible in the standard course of play.
The app Rise of Kingdoms had this years ago. Multi day event that unlocked 1 day at a time with multiple events to do over the course of the overall event. My guess is someone at Scope saw that and pitched it to the team and just filled it with arbitrary numbers for the milestones because they DO NOT play STFC.
Would love to know who does the math for these events and what is a reasonable expectation for a 7 day event. 25 borg polygon, you get 1 free a week, with 7 seats without just crushing others hopes and dreams 7 people can maybe do 14 together in this time. Unless you expect people to just abandon old arcs and never go back to them once they are done, most my alliance still runs those weekly. its the same with the krenim formation armadas you get 2 a week with 4 seats so trading off with others in alliance would be 8. Is scopley really thinking about the requirements from these or just like New years have zero cares for players? LABEL IT HEROIC. Heroic people always look at it and go "I'll pay for that or I wont pay for that" if it isnt labelled heroic f2p should be able to complete it. Even casual payers should be able to complete it without having to stomp on allies
Did anyone add all the events up to see if we had to do everyone to get the 1950 pts yet?
The meta awards 2600 points total so yes, you can skip a few of the more stupid tasks
awesome ty
My daily login is not counted
I am so sick of all these bugs in this game and skipping now the mining event (transogen), because it's simply impossible to play! 😡 Either the mining node is occupied... by what?! I just reset it! Or I am not able to move my miner in the system, because it is stuck!
And I am also sick by this endless time consuming events and the useless hostile and armada killing all the time! This game became a game for persons that have no other life, but playing hours for hours every day - with questionable outcome! The game is work and no fun anymore! So you maybe finally made it: I am finally leaving after playing since 2018!
Omg! Been offline 3 days. All I log in to see is more taps more grind? 3 days offline tells me..I don't need this
I am leaving and I have spent £££. This makes me very sad but I've played for the people not the travesty that scopely have made.
It's good to know at least that we are all going through this and need to make choices on what we will all do.
While having a Selkie helps with the Hazards, I mined all day yesterday and just got the first tier done late yesterday. I'm not bothering with it anymore, or the hostile event. Scopely really seems like they are purposely pushing people away from the game.
STFC players: " it can't get any worse than the WoK Arc"
Scopely: " hold my beer..."
We started the year with Year of Hell arc, and unlike Voyager, the producers are actually letting us get a full year of it.
This one refine, maybe about 35 nova deaths, so fun
Most people don't have 15 to 25 starts for these. I think this is a great event, but some of these milestones are completely unrealistic, and no Scopely , I'm not giving you a few hundred dollars to do this either.
I'm OP34 and the new transogenic systems allow me to bypass the "Dark Space" mission requirement and go to 40+ systems. It's nice being able to explore a bit more 🙂
Why no spend event at weekend?
surely we will receive enough directives to finish this events when support realised, that developers didn't think about the requirements (again)...
I already asked, and they said no
how can you ask? the tribbleshooting is
blocking all tickets from being created
Please show Scope you are smarter than the devs by realizing the meta awards more points than you need to complete it so you can skip the frigging polygon tasks. I have said this in 2 channels several times.
The problem is they don't make that clear in game. This was something I actually brought up to the devs during the winter version of this months ago
They don’t care. They’ve taken on some interns that have never played STFC and put them in charge of designing stuff starting with the WoK pts 1&2 and now this Flashpoint junk.
They don’t play the game. Whoever is in overall charge has stopped caring. They fired the proofreader. They don’t care until there’s a noticeable drop off in the store.
I can't thank you enough for making an arc that even 50 - 60 level players can't compete in. Trellium-D Can't get to it and I am at 56
lvl 46 and finished trellium D mining this morning (after yesterdays performing made it impossible to play at all)
as long as you have built the nsea it is possible...
but mining enough transogen for this current event actualy is impossible, and getting loot from the attacking hostiles in suicide space that can not be rafined is a bad joke. but hey - thes disabled the ticket system and have never got so few tickes 😂
I would like to know who prepares the events with the scores. Because I'd like to know if he just throws them out there to fill the event or if he tests them first. Because if he doesn't test them, he'd better change jobs.
They don’t play the game
When I first saw the Event Schedule for this month, I couldn't believe it was accurate because it was showing ALL the arc events were locked to Ops 30 or higher, but it's been 2 days now with NOTHING new to do and NO rewards to earn other than from the usual Daily/Weekly/Battle Pass events that run year round (no Material Advantage, no Artifact Hunt, no Event Store Spend event)...
Do you just want lower level players to uninstall the game out of boredom this month? I understand making a ship for big players only, and even restricting as much as, say, HALF the new content to higher Ops, but this is ridiculous.
You could have at least given us little players a couple new events that reward new officer shards (I was really looking forward to them since I love SNW!) and Event Store currency to do every day to keep us engaged and give us a reason to login! At this point, I don't even see much point in logging in at all this arc! As a big SNW fan, what a disappointment... 😔
whre are we supposed to magic up these directives to start these things
Me cause I don't do them. Can start well over 200 at this point
How? Limit is 4 starts, these are for solo waves not normal waves
Spend 45.5k rare materials????? For real..............
If youre going to suddenly label this heroic, then you should be increasing the rewards.
Just say something instead of trying to be sneaky and get caught.
it’s all,unattainable - _plus🤦🏻♀️ g6 canister, heck if i could kill those ships..but no, g5 is best i can do atm.. 🤦🏻♀️
Scopely can kiss my ...... with this arc
it'll get better once you're ops61+(hazard resistance, and selkie mines very fast) and when the new building gets to higher levels(faster mining)
I don't have any problem with the flashpoint itself. I think it's a great concept, my only issue is with some of the unrealistic milestones basically pressuring you to either pay or not complete them
<@&509690795536941056> Scoring is not working for pinnacle of power mining, limited time artifact hunt, & xindeep events.
How about reverting the changes of this entire Arc so we can play the game and you can actually fix the arc?
Neither is scoring for BP or Cerritos events
Is it a stupid request to ask for a non broken game ? Compensation apart, I m wasting time and I think a € full refund for Battlepass is not an option but a must
Wow, i have claimed 6 echoes of mak'ala chests. Symbiosis crew, i have not gotten a single officer shard.. WoK was ok compared to this new Arc.
I wonder how many tickets have to be raised for an issue to become a known issue? Cos there are lots of problems missing from that list. That comms error alone is making the game unplayable
Can't raise tickets, they turned that off so they don't have to admit there's a problem
Sounds about right
lets do some math
rare transogen is out of range and uncommon seems to be useless to lvl up the new building and therefore increase the increadible slow mining ar least a little...
1.68M divided by all 3 faction miners, divided by - lets say 18k/h to keep the numbers easy...
you expect me to keep all my miners more than 31h in suicide space at the mine. and I've got 48h to do so...
are you mad?
I like that crashpoint events do have their own tab, separated from standard events, this is so far the most (and only?) positive thing about this arc - a distinct tab
wow this new arc is impossible for me low ops 40. the communication errors this morning have just ruied the 1 and a half hour i have before work cheers
terrible event for mining. it's just unrealistic to complete it in any way! I've been dripping 6 ships all day, only 2 stages out of 4
Flashpoint; another aptly named arc as this is definitely the flashpoint for a lot of people quitting this incredibly broken game
This is very much ops dependant whether is hard or downright impossible. Im ops 58 and already finished the sms.
Ops 61 has the same goal as ops 70 aka 300'ish mil
Im not sure how fast a t12 58 faction miner mines in the G5 rare token space, but thats the only way i can think of reaching those numbers until G6 faction miners.
much slower
Don't worry, they "fixed" it by retroactively adding the heroic tag to the event
Borg solo armadas aren't scoring for the event? Just did a bunch and score still reads zero points 🤷♂️
They have labelled it poorly, it is only Type 03 solos that count... you know, those armadas we only get 14 starts for every 7 days, making 20 a near impossibility for the majority of the player base
I’d happily push this arc face first into a sanding belt until all I was holding was its big toe.
Just when you think Scopely can’t do a monthly update worse than the previous month, the new update turns up and asks to hold its beer.
mining the whole time with my fresh selki .and maxed nova .... so is this a bug or just a late 1st aprils joke?
https://prnt.sc/k3lcEIp_Hl7Y
Joke
Scopely deliberately create frustration in the game to encourage players to pay up to complete daily goals with less effort……
You have to question the mindset behind that business model.
@unique flint I have 66 and I need to dig up 303 million. I've been dripping 6 ships all day and I could only close 2.
@indigo fulcrum I I have the same. I was able to close stage 2. I've been dripping in 6 ships all day. 62/60 system. Just a black joke
Not sure, if that's a coincident or if they did it on purpose- it's hard to believe that they couldn't name things unequivocally - if they only wanted to.
It’s tales like this that help me decide to ignore this grind along with all Wave Defences, WOK, Silents, Xindi, Voyager, Formations, DTI, Q trails, Vindicator, Revenant and likely another half dozen that I can’t remember.
I play this game a couple of hours a day on two accounts and I simply don’t have the bandwidth to do all them. I do the daily’s, ex-Borg and some armadas. That’s it, i can’t do any more than that in a couple of hours.
<@&509690795536941056> 5 elite this morning now 3days to do 1 more , how does we do to compleate this one ?
Credit Card
I’m sure that when/if actually they read my completed feedback forms, they’ll think this guy’s just a misery, consistently marking everything as poor or irrelevant to my game. I mark them that way as I simply won’t be doing them, I’ve enough to getting on with without another new grind to add to my chores.
Armada events in the Boldly Go series should have a banding.
Greater points for bigger armadas, this would encourage players to play at their level and not swamp smaller armadas, it would also reward those that work on improving their abilities at level to kill their targets.
What events?
Scopely, how on earth are we supposed to complete a 15 and 25 borg polygon armada task when you only give us 100 directives once a week!! Crunching some numbers an average 6 man group would need 400/500 directives from each player to be able to dthese tasks and that's without swapping players in and out of the group. Now times that by 10 for an alliance of 60 members. This is best case scenario and we know its never that simple.
I guess we should've read Scopely's mind and saved up 6 weeks in advance
Scopely your math ain't mathing. SORT IT OUT
See the comment below
Cannot save up 6 weeks limit is 4 starts 😓
work together as a team with your alliance. It was painful, but doable. the kremin formation armadas were more difficult due to not being able to rush them.
Not to mention the giant elephant in the room that is the fact you don't need to do all the objectives to reach the final milestone, not by a long shot, so errrr..........just ignore that task? 🤷
<@&509690795536941056> , the task to complete 25 borg polygon aramdas is challenging. But even more so when they not spawning at all?
I finally stopped mining and trying the new event area, what's the Point?!?!?!? I don't see how this is helping my progress in the game at all!
Scopely claims they want people to "progress", this is a Huge slow down...
Just do what I do. Completely ignore all new grinds/arcs until the ship for said grind/arcs is available in the event store.
Theres obviously going to be a hazard shielded ship in the next couple of weeks. My guess is some sort of Suliban mining ship.
<@&509690795536941056> , Are we done with weekend spending events and traditional syndicate evens? Didn't see either on the schedule.
any update on the missing battle pass? almost 2 full days since launch and still no pass or comp
This massive grind mentality for events is killing all the fun in the game. I used to finish events for new content, now I don't bother with new content. Its just too much.
Knowing Scopely, it will probably be a $100 ship. And it won't be effective until you level it up at least 6 times.
I literally can't claim my directives in time to complete these tasks. Will we get a comp chest with directives? Or do the regular borg solos count?
borg spheres don't count
<@&509690795536941056> no mats spending events this month or is this an error? Clarification would be nice
Almost placed on the slb and only completed half the sms. I think this is evidence that the sms was too hard.
<@&509690795536941056> could you be so kind to clarify how SLBs work when the score is tied?
I was the 2nd or 3rd player to reach 375 points on our server but now I'm only getting top25 rewards.
Is there a logic to this? I believe it was different in other SLBs when later scores ranked lower.
I don't think the current way is fair.
Yeah I was 1st as well then as more people tied with me I dropped to 11th
1 officer shard so far from a bunch of event store pulls. Y'all need to get it together, this is the worst event store yet. And that's saying something.
3 players in one system and no enemies. Brilliantly put together.
Borg solo armadas for the crucible stopped counting at 3 on Android. Did like 30+ and it's not counting to event after 3. Restarted game, cleared cache and appdata, no updates
this hurak event has got to be the grindiest of grind events, this is NOT what we want. having to mindlessly grind out 100s of these hostiles, for a chance to pull directives that are REQUIRED for one of the sms tiers...
all the armada spawns are pushing out the hostile spawns. got like 30 people sitting around in one system for 3 spawns...
Dumb question but where are the drop ships? and less dumb question why isn't there a link to the system in the task?
<@&509690795536941056> I don't know who comes up with the milestones numbers for the events but they must be high on some pretty strong stuff ... Once again the grind is absurdly high. Especially given how very little hostiles there are to hunt ...
So where is this Gold Rush event? My "Flashpoint I: Gold Rush, Chapter 1" has as it's first step 'Complete the 1st milestone of the Gold Rush event.' ... this seems stupid. To complete a mission milestone, I have to complete a different event milestone... which I haven't got?
For the third day now Borg solos aren’t counting
You're doing borg polygons, not borg spheres right?
And they just tear you to pieces. As a 65, I'm having to punch down to 60s, which makes the scoring abysmal
is there a cooldown for the hurak tag turn ins?
I didn't bother going to a higher system than 60 as I don't have the hazard resistance anyway. The game is being less fun by the minute ...
dang those hurt
Update found them, can't destroy even the lowest level one. Another Arc I'll be not bothering with
The amounts required for a single pull of Transogen in the refinery are insane (I'm not even talking about the 2 chest pull)
Feedback: the hurak hostiles spawn rate is way too low. There are so many people competing for the few that spawn that it's a total waste of time.
Oh I have tons of hazard resistance. That's not a problem.
I love the concept of this event, but the milestones are just ridiculously punishing. If the next arc is this way, next month, I'm just walking away from the game, and this time forever walking away. I refuse to play a game that forces me to sit down for 6 to 8 hours and grind. I have better things to do with my life. They're turning this game into something that dominates your life, and it's just no longer fun.
I'm just over and done with this "we are going to punish the players in part one of the arc with things that are very hard to kill, make them grind for hours and hours , and then try to force them to buy a ship in part two to make them easy to kill "
Having to punch down, and do a massive grind for a month, no thank you. I'm literally on my last leg with this game.
This doesn't even get into the fact that the game is a technical bug filled, poor performing, nightmare that the company is completely unwilling to properly fix
transogen event is straight trash
RNG for directives.....booo! If there is a chance we get no directives, what's the point?
That's completely stupid and absurd. It should be guaranteed. They are basically trying to force you to buy them which I won't do. This event is rapidly becoming not fun as they were trying to claim it was in their video and turning into a ridiculous grind & cash grab
the point is that you won't get enough to do the SMS, the server won't get enough for the IMS and they hope everyone starts buying directive packs for this thing
The amount of hostiles in each system is way below the amount you need there are 4 of us hunting the drop ships and it’s painful
This right here ... They could make the game playable for F2P and then give a big boost to whales, instead they make the game playable by whales and punish the F2P big time. Lately it just takes too long to even try to complete some of these events. Even spread around 4-5 days, the grind required to complete some of the events is bad. Plus for some of these they do not even provide sufficient resources to complete.
It's even punishing for the low to moderate spenders ($100-500/month) it's getting to the point where unless you spend a lot to keep your officers in top shape, your ships and top shape, by the specialty ships, you're going to spend forever grinding, and I'm just about done playing that nonsense.
Like today, I'm level 65, and my maxed Rot is being throttled by the level 60s, and the 62s one shot kill it. I have a G6 uncommon, and that performs even worse. I have a cube, and that gets torn to bits
I'm really just over this punishing players during arc 1 to force them to buy the ship in part 2. I stupidly dropped 500$ on that new building yesterday, and it still took me well over 12 hours to mine to complete that event, and I had to babysit them all the time because they constantly went OPCL. I just learned a hard lesson that I'm never going to repeat even if I stay playing this game. It wouldn't be so bad if they fixed the crappy cargoes in the G6 uncommon miners. Then I could've put them out and forgotten about it, but I had to warp them out every five minutes, come back in and park the hostiles, and that was a huge waste of time
If their goal is to drive the player base away from this game, they are definitely on track for doing that goal
Not Borg solos, Borg “type” solos. Kill the Revenant solos.
You're probably doing it wrong. You have to basically kill the solos in the Borg polygon area. Noticed the description says "type"
That means to kill the Borg type three solos
Is this supposed to be like this? PC, jsut that one ssytem as far as i've seen
I haven't seen that since the voyager system was messed up
The full flashpoint and boldly go/makala's content should have been 42+, not 40. And Scopely should have easily seen that.
Anyone know where the 'Gold Rush' event is to continue the missions? It is nowhere in any part of the Flashpoint event or current event list
#👾-bug-reporting is where that should go. That is mostly a bug on iOS, and it's been around for two years, and they haven't bothered to fix it. You can bug report it, but so far like it looks like they have no intention to fix it.
Sigh... loot from Flashpoint invading entities is an absolute joke. 985 from a lvl 55 rare kill and exchange minimum is 13.5k
Oh but they'll sell you a ship next month that'll boost the loot and fix all that 🤪
Also damage bonus to said hostiles
But you'll need £1k to make it useful in less than a year
hey scopely this new event is stupid
Selling directive packs when the free sourcing is RNG and not guaranteed to pull SOMETHING is a sure fire way to get a lot of folks to spend $0 just on principal as a show of solidarity with our FTP friends. It should not be pay to participate for everyone. If people want to spend to do more, that's on them, but give an actual drip for everyone and not this rng garbage with a chance of nothing.
I'm not f2p, but I refuse to buy those directives. I'm just not participating in that, and if the server bombs this arc, then it bombs the arc and the map is permanently changed. I'm getting very ambivalent to this.
How is this even possible and we get 14 directives every week
I am an ops 40. The third event here requires defeating 400m+ invading entities with a single ship. Can your (ops 40) max dev accounts even do that?
so this is the new norm for the next 6 months . you have now ruined this game
They expect you to buy the directives with your money in the store. Luckily I had been a little lazy doing them, so the 20 won't be a problem for me, but if you do those regularly, you're going to be screwed out of that milestone unless you open up your wallet.
So 40 elite solo waves, eh? Is scopely providing the directives to start these said waves and have they factored in that most can't complete a full set of elites so it will take more than 8 starts? This sure looks a lot like a pay to participate event.
That one was actually easy for me. That's about eight wave defenses, but luckily I already had 800 directives stocked up. If you didn't have that, then you have to open your wallet unfortunately. That seems to be what all of these high milestones are… If you didn't save up which you had no idea you had to, you have to open your wallet
Makala Crucible = good
Flashpoint = flaming pile of dog 💩
This is beyond confusing where are the drop ships?
Flashpoint = 💩💩💩
It should have been introduce AFTER the crucible .
Barely we got time for dailies least of all another other event
It's all of the interceptors in the new area
Is the Phase 2 invasion SMS supposed to start from 0? I have to grind the same as Phase 1 all over again plus another 3k points for first milestone? That doesn’t seem reasonable to me. @full swan
the crucible is trash aswell. its a whole lot of grind for basically no reward.
i did 20 pulls from the store and got 2!!! Byr shards
Yes and do the invading entities. Both of them count for stage two. It's designed to pressure you to buy more directives to do the invading entities because those will complete it faster than an extreme hostile grind.
At least I know enough now to properly complete that survey they put out the other day 🤣 the feedback won't be pretty.
Why do I get 4 star and 6 star and not 5 star??? <@&509690795536941056>
Becaise its 💩💩💩.
Havent realized it was messy last time.
And another event with very little or no thought into it.
Got to love the new events that are working really well, massive grind for yet another new currency, we are at what 7 this month so far?
Yet ANOTHER massive grind.
One of the milestones you have to kill the new armadas, which given you only have a chance to get directives, it a p2c event
Gold rush event that doesn't exist.
Incredibly slow spawning "hurak" hostiles, high lvl players who haven't bought the hazard prime are screwed as well due to the hazards, low ops players can't even get ANY hazard research.
Hostiles that drop loot are so far out of a lot of players leagues, low 60 ops have next to no chance of killing any hostiles that drop the containment currency.
If scopely's goal is to drive away as much of the player base as possible they are going the right way. One day they might introduce new content that isn't another massive timesink and insane grind, though I expect that will come out on the 30th Feb
👎 This is what I think of this ARC! I'm considering putting game down to enjoy my summer and probably never coming back. Good job Scopely
We had an insane mining event, majority of players in my alliance didn't even bother trying, the Hurak rubbish needs a completely INSANE amount of currency for the chests, considering the hazards slaughter you before you get even close, yes the players who have spent loads and bought hazard primes aren't in the same boat, not everyone is buying that rubbish. We have to kill enough Huraks to open a chest and HOPE we get enough directives to run an armada, considering scoeply had yet another bright idea to make the directives only a chance, guess the only way to do it is to buy packs...Just drive away as many people as possible, great work....
Yeah its a total joke, I pulled 10 and 1 Ent-E data shard. Sham.
I'm about two heartbeats from that as well
This just showed up 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what they mean is discover new ways to be forced to spend $500 to upgrade a building so you can barely mine enough to do anything and keep up with the events.
How is this even possible? I can barely kill a 60
Will ask about this.
Do you think scopely might be able to make this arc possible for people who are going to spend thousands to do it?
You only have a CHANCE to get the directives for the new armadas....85% chance to get 100 rare directives.
I can kill the 58/60s easily, the 62s I die to fast to the hazards.
Lvl 60 gives 60k currency a kill,
Lvl 58 gives 40k currency a kill,
So I'd need to kill 1434 lvl 60s to open the 3 chests, 480 to open 2 chests or 160 for 1 chest...What a lovely grind, that arc can go can do 1 with the insanity. Wont be long before people start quitting the game in floods, or is that the goal here?
Wait for it...epic fail. This arc is garbage. Milestones too high and just not well thought out at all
What level do you have to be to get the flashpoint invasion events?
Not getting vindicator credit for fkr group armadas all of a sudden on s42. Ugh!
how are we supposed to get the tokens for the new trans fast mining systems??? i cant find them anywhere. will there not be a daily token released at some point ?
Shouldn't I have gotten credit for this mission after we hit the first server milestone?
Idea of the event might be good with milestones, good choice of rewards, some complexity (with hazard systems and apex barrier)… BUT: implementation once again not well thought out: 1 - too few systems, so all is congested, 2 - slow spawning of hostiles in congested systems, 3 - targets (for early 6G) unrealistic. Not gonna hit 2100 58s or 1500 60s to get a single triple pull with „chance“ rewards; won‘t even do it for a guaranteed return.
Milestones, rewards need URGENT recalibration to keep engagement up. Also, please add more systems and faster spawning so that all players can participate.
Now Borg solos are not scoring on s42. I give up .
need to be doing the revenant borg solos
It doesn't say type 3. We should get our wasted directives back if content programmers can't type.
It just say solo armadas, not 03 and where are getting 25 starts from anyway...
So t3 of the Flashpoint events cant be done without buying dumb useless aramdas that they strong arming us to buy to push event to next tier. No thanks scoply. I think im done with Flashpoint events. Grind isn't worth it especially now to getting slapped with a you shall not pass event.
To be fair, you’re half right and I too made the mistake of believing this was the Borg solo armadas… until I saw their sneaky word “Type” in the description… that was the only clue I had as well. Either way, scopely messed up the event and should have made it much more clear
Not it doesn't. It says borg TYPE in the description which are TYPE 3 solos. It doesn't just say "borg solo"
Arc failure. No longer competing. They insist we type the exact event name when reporting, I insist they type the exact name too. SMH
Borg type can also mean , not dominion type.
Just to follow up on the congestion: more chasers than Hurak hostiles 🤣
I seem to be missing the Flashpoint Exchange bucket
It does look in the info under the ‘i’ icon
. It says it plain as day on the description. If you went and did the regular super old content solos, I'm sorry, but that's on you. It's very clear that those are the type 3 solo Armada in the continuum area
that information thing you click says solo for everything... not just the Borg ones Not just that particular Armada. You are looking at this and getting upset because of your own mistake
Look, if it is unclear and confusing and the info behind it just says solo then it perfectly legit to ask. If you have stumbled upon on it then well done. It is ‘ not on me ‘!!! Or anything close, why be so unhelpful and rude to boot. Not wasting any more of my time on you if you can't engage. Cya.._ blocked
where is the gold rush event
I didn't stumble on it. It's clear as day, and information icon says solo for anything – not just the Borg one. You simply made a mistake. Move on and go to the proper ones and stop complaining about it and trying to blame the developers for your mistake. There's a lot of things I fault the developers for, but this is not one of them. Even if you look at those solo Armada's in the system, they say "Borg type"
So you spent some directives on the old one, big deal. Go do the new ones. The directors for the old ones are dime a dozen and handed out like candy nowadays with the archive
If I keep playing ... I will just ignore events more ... have too big a backlog of ships and grind I need to do to just unlock the stuff from months ago ...
Sucks with no spend event this weekend ... though maybe I don't want to level up based on how the events are so much harder if I level up.
any ideas what on earth the 'gold rush' event is as it's not showing up anywhere!?
I thought I was going crazy as I couldn't see it as well
I don't really see why we needed two separate stages of hostile grind in both SMS and IMS. Could've just gone hostiles > entities > transogen in 3 and be done with it.
Especially since part 2 resets you to zero and then triples the score you need.
They just keep pilling dumb and repetitive on top of dumb and repetitive, don’t they?
We need a lot more systems for this to work, especially with the terrible spawn rate in some systems...
would be nice to have some rare ones to fight....
systems with hunters and other tasks are a bad idea.
with hunters, mines, armadas, and event-hostiles all in the same system, things will break.
at this point there aren't enough event hostiles in several systems, because everyone is bringing along a hunter that lowers the spawnrate even further after the reduction from armadas.
In addition to my lack of a Battle Pass that you are aware of, I do not have the new SMS, IMS and event store that are connected to the new hostiles.
Might be an obvious one, but have you updated the game? Could try reinstalling or repairing the game also.
They need to up the spawn rate on armadas or add new spawn systems. Rare’s just aren’t showing up
Yeah, I'm about in the same boat. I only got 1 tier of mining done and no tiers completed for the last FP events. Now, more hostiles, and needing at least 400 to complete it? No thanks.
I have my PC launcher set to update when I open the launcher, so it is automatically kept up to date.
@full swan I've been grinding lvl 58 dropships for 6 hours and I've received a tenth in Targ Tags for what it would take to pull one chest. Mayhap your expectations are a little too high.
So we need to grind like maniac but we only get "a chance" with Scopely math the get directives? How are we supposed to finish stage 3 and unlock stage 4? Spending? think twice! it's summer time and I won't spend on top of the time I already put into this game.
So been pushing players to move up and this is the reward ARC we are getting? lol
Oh and the chest price is ridiculous....
So this is my guess.... Scopely been trying to get players to move up ops.... and now they are trying to make them quit with this overload? thank god it's summer time. Put the game down and go play outside people!
Please FIX ANNORAX to work on the hurak hostiles.
It’s one thing to make a loop difficult to be able to sell something in part 2. It’s something else entirely to not have a grindable path forward. The mining event had unreasonable milestones. The stage 4 event does also.
That's not the issue. We tried all of that. Scopely sent us and in-game message (to those impacted) that said they are aware of the issue and looking into it. That was 2 days ago.
knew eos was coming, they giving ppl the option now i assume?
Did you see the message in-game? Its in the section where we usually get patch notes. All it says is they are aware and working on it. sorry, II came here to get an update and ran across your message.
Yes, I saw it. But notice that I was saying in addition to that problem, other things are now missing. In other words, my point was that in addition to the thing they are aware of, there are other things that have the same issue.
yes, I am also missing the things you are missing so I assume it's related to the same problem. Its wild that there's no fix yet. Clearly someone just got a file truncated and some accounts were not updated. this is 5 minute fix that hasn't been done because of where it ranks in priority.
Yeah, they have been doing very poorly this arc. I know other people have had others arcs that were worse, but for me personally, this is by far the buggiest arc yet. BTW, on a side note, I edited my earlier post a moment ago to make my point clearer.
What do you mean no spend event this weekend? Where did you see that?
I appreciate challenging content. I like pushing myself. I do not like getting currency I can't use even when I hit at level. The level 40 hostiles need to be dropping 4* canisters so that fresh OPs 40 players can use their Forge turn ins instead of ending up with hundreds of thousands of useless 3* canisters 🙂
Scopely need to fire the person responsable for putting the Boldly Go event at same time with this awful Flashpoint grind!
Scopely reallyyy need to hire a good copy editor person. "1st Milestone" is different than "1st Stage"
This doesn't make any sense. It says complete the first milestone of the IMs but the first milestone is done.
instead of running sequentially the hostile and the armada IMS need to run simultaneously (And require both be completed to unlock the last stage) because people are going to run armadas that don't count because the IMS hasn't reached stage 3 yet
Yeah I'm not grinding that much
This event is trash! 🗑️
so, am i just not seeing whatever gold rush event we are supposed to be doing for one of the missions today?
It's an exciting grind where everyone's grind has been merged into one supergrind....
We have a different definition of exciting apparently
<@&509690795536941056> please let the folks over at scopley know that it is actually pretty impressive how terrible this event is.
Not only is it one of the most absurd grinds ever. The rewards for the grind are also terrible. 👏👏👏
I may have been a little sarcastic there.
Scopley you are so delusional if you think people have this much time to grind these new dropships. Totally too high requirements for your store pulls. Im seriously about to quit...
Limits on Vanguard and Honorguard spawns so there will always be at least one of each if they are all spawned would be nice. Lowest 3 systems are all full of Honorguards on S95 currently, no Vanguards available.
Flashpoint is a waste of my time. I fail to see any value or entertainment in the events, the story, the mechanics. Boring, dull, nothing but a grind with no reward. This was supposed to be evolved from player community and cooperation??? Ha! Clearly, Scopely doesn't have a clue about players beyond the really big spenders. No way does this entice me to spend any more. Ditch this and try again, please
it seems this arc is geared to pay or die. Events are abysmal, and rewards are over priced. Mining this transogen is a joke. After 4 years I am seriously considering mothballing my fleet.
as mentioned above, it seems as if they decided to purposefully enrage players......
There was no spend event on the calendar ... Thus can you assume it will happen?
(This might have changed ... I'm not paying as much attention as I just feel sad each time I log in now ...)
This is just too much, way to Grindy. Solo wave one is a joke. I don’t even have the ship yet. Invasion sms is too much. Too much play time required
I dont mind that it's grindy, since it seems to be over the course of 4 days. I do mind that I as an ops 62 player am relegated to ops 58 space where the majority of people ops 56-65 are all spawn camping hostiles in every corner of the system and makes it a game of "which alliance controls this territory?" Because there are players blowing up ships not in their alliance so their own mates get all the loot. This is beyond frustrating, and doesn't feel rewarding in the slightest.
Is the missing Battlepass issue ever going to be resolved? Not to mention the Boldygo Go event that also disappeared.
it's....really not clear, as evidenced by the dozens of people complaining that they spent directives on the wrong thing. And since the actual solos are named 'borg type 03', not 'borg type' it's ok to just acknowledge scopely made an error in the event description that should probably be fixed to avoid confusion
this new arc is exhausting, to much grinding .. to much mining, and i have to get 6* canisters and can not stay alive in the systems that you get them... total dumpster fire... then i already spent the directives i had because there was an event for it.. and now i have none for part 3.. thanks scopely, directives should be a guarantee not a chance..
This game is no longer fun, you've made it work, not sure if I want to be playing this
A lot of the fatigue people are feeling right now could have been avoided by just spacing stuff better. Dropping the boldly go event at the same time you start a new loop with a lot of grinding was poorly planned. It should have either come later in the arc, when people were more comfortable with the new stuff going on, or in an off-week between arcs
<@&509690795536941056> I have a gripe about the Day 3 task of "Complete 3 P1 Assignments". NO WHERE does it say they have to be successful! 😡
The grind to reward ratio is horrible. It's definitely time to take a break from this game.
i need 200 dropship hostile kills for 1 chest refine. and they spawn at a rate of like 3 at a time. this arc is horrible
Could someone explain to me why my borg solo armadas arent counting for the event?
revenant solos, not regular borg armadas
The events are not displayed for me. Update installed
Whos worse? $copely or DMV? Thumb up for $copely, thumb down for DMV.
I get the feeling that posting here is a waste of time -$copely dont appear to listen........ and appear to care even less.......
They only listen, reply regularly on the VIP discord for the whales. Unless you are on that you are pretty much wasting your time here.
Please fix the respawn for Hurak Vanguard (rare) entities. I only see epics in the Flashpoint systems. Cannot work on Stage 3 to score if the rares don't spawn at all.
ok so no target no spawm, I don't have time to wait 10 hours to kill 20, event still crap, nothing changes
Whoops. I’m sure I’m not the only one who had no idea what Revenant Solo Armadas were called. Now I can only run 500 more of these 😂
As we are becoming aware this is a money 💰 pull by scopley , nothing else , I thought it couldn’t get worse than the last Arc , omg 😱 was I wrong , don’t have the time for this rubbish time waster
It's only designed for big levels and pay to play, you'd think Scopely wants to empty its servers and keep only the paying ones, in any case it's well on its way to
Rare hurak entities not respawning in WJeff?
<@&509690795536941056> Where are the blue HuSo armadas? Server 109 looks like this.
I’m probably the only one feeling this way, but with all the hype that went into it, I feel that this is the most underwhelming arc I’ve ever seen. It’s convoluted, no one really understands it, and it’s not level appropriate.
You are correct and what they mean is the first stage not the first milestone. Personally for this mistake I think they should send a chest. I've learned in the real world. Unless there's consequences for your actions, they don't change.
I mean, if it’s a money grab, what am I supposed to be buying? You’d think there would be a new ship or something that would be specially designed for these hostiles. But no. It’s just “hey, here’s some level 40 hostiles that are really level 54 hostiles. Best of luck to you. Oh and by the way, we aren’t going to give any substitute content for players under 40, and good luck to early 40’s players.” I wish it was just a money grab. But the only new ship is only available to a select few players and isn’t designed to defeat these hostiles anyway. I think it was just really boneheaded design, not a pure money grab. Someone at Scopely mistook frustrating for “fun”
Create a problem, then sell the solution
They just delay selling the solution for a month
It’s gonna backfire, if that’s the plan. I’ve already checked out of this loop and so have most people I’ve talked to.
Its the IMS, the kills from the whole server count for that. You dont have to grind it alone.
About 200 kills to get 1 refine? 😂
As ops 62, I'm supposed to kill g6 versions in a system, that kills me very quickly (there is no hazard research or ships to prevent it at ops 62 f2p).
Not that I have any chance against them anyway. 😂😂😂
Ok, more seriously, I'm skipping this content until it's fixed
Another fail in game design by Scopely and precisely opposite to what they say in their latest video. They're praising the players for creating RoE, but then they screw players over from being able to execute that RoE. Here's what happens:
- Low level players (F2P) have only one token to the Transogen token space.
- The low level player mines there and is killed by another player against RoE, losing that only token.
- The low level player has no way to be compensated with a token, and the attacker also needs to have tokens to be able to mine enough to go OPC and compensate the victim.
The new mechanics of hull losing strength while mining is the dumbest thing Scopely came up with until today, so congratulations to game designers.
Token claim unlocks at 45 on the building
the revenant chest costs in refinery are out of order, am ops 55, got a t10 rev, solo armada chest costs 6.7m for a single pull, can only just kill a lv 60 solo armada but get only 500k loot in total , how am i supposed to gain parts when all 14 directives are only just cover 1 single pull of 20k rare parts, also am short of getting back to t10 after scrapping, about 2k parts short
the crucible has a task to do 20 solo rev armadas, but how is this possible when we only get 14 dirs per week, f2p getting scammed yet again, and it's not the only impossible f2p task in the crucible, you guys don't ever look at this game from a f2p point of view when you make up all this messed up stuff do you
Then tell me how a lvl 37 player is able to do that.
<@&509690795536941056> It's tough to complete rare and epic away teams when all you get are commons.
Have you tried doing the 03.2s? The 54 alone gives more loot than a regular 60.
All rare entities are gone, replaced by epics. Stage 3 now likely to be impossible for me as even the rares were a struggle. And that's even if I get any epic directives in yet another RNG event like the Khan Challenges.
The new events don't list the systems where the hostiles are like in they do in other events, also you can't see the different types of hostiles there on the new systems it only shows miners on the map
funny part will be when/if servers get to stage 3, and noone has directives cause they used them already when they got them.....
That would be on the players themselves to save them for that... We have instructed everyone to not use them before the IMS reaches stage 3.
Like this 🤣 so many already doing the armadas and barely just started stage 2 never mind stage 3
This hurak invasion thing is such BS. There's 0 lvl 48 armadas and all the 50s are epics. And then there isn't any lvl 52 or 54 armadas, it jumps to 56.
I'm wondering what a Borg Solo Armada is if Thora-Omega-2 systems's common, rare, and epic [BRG] Borg Sphere's don't count in the solo borg mada kills? I've dropped 11 then stopped when I saw the blue toilet bowl wasn't counting them.
I am ops61 and i don’t have the opportunity to spend enough unvommon 6* material need for the crucible event. if i would have i have not enough accalorators to finish my buildings. this event is rediculous. rev solo armadas not possible if you don’t get the new directions during event and had the luck to not spend them before. same wirh the g6 solo armadas. why don’t you just put a spend 500€ button in the event menu. would safe time for the players
You need to do those 3. Borg solos, the ones you do with Revenant
Where are the vanguards and honour guards??
My quick and honest asessment of this arc:
- The rewards are mediocre at best. I don't see much improvements to my normal day2day gameplay. The instant abilities for the older ships are nice but not really game changing. The building mainly solves a problem that was just created for the building. So why engange in the content?
- Which brings me to my next point: The grind. I don't mind the grind. I actually praised the FC Khan grind and completed it within a week. However this arc introduces a new type of grind: the silly and frustrating grind. The rewards from the SMS are not even worth enganging. The main carrot on stick is the IMS progression. However it doesn't really matter how much you personally grind if the vast majority on your server can't be ar... motivated to chip in. That's frustrating because you cannot change things yourself and are dependent on other factors outside of your sphere of control
- And for what are we doing that exaclty. Well the Flashpoint event store looks somewhat nice - mostly because of building parts and the Fleet preset. However rewards are so low that they barely make a dent in what is needed for unlocks. Payouts might increase the further we progress - but not having them VISIBLE (if they even exist) do no motivate ppl to progress. Most of my alliance mates chose the Boldly Go event over the dropship grind
- Hazards. There is no real way to mitigate the 61+ Hazards in the Transogen zones except buying a prime or buying a CT or reach a very high ops level until generic research opens up. The hazards make it really unfun to play and there is no clear way in sight to reduce the hazards for the non-token zones. Completing the IMS could lower the hazard percentages or could open up some research increase transogen hazard resistance. But yet again nothing communicated nothing visible in game.
Therefore the content is currently very unappealing to most players. I view it mostly as a catch up mechanic for (old) artifacts that I don't need.
I'm ops49 can't reach there why give me a event that I can't do?
There’s no possible way anyone has 25 of these starts ready to go (nor 12 starts and another 13 after the refinery cooldown). This is not heroic, correct? (Or is it…) the simple solution is to make all Borg solos count
You cannot reach? This content is for ops 40+ lowest hostile system is lvl 32 (Hoskk), the lowest IE Armada system is lvl 40 (Wyte). as ops 49 these systems should be easy for you to reach
They are Armadas not Hostiles and you showed me a higher system I can reach Wyte the confusion was the Event Doesn't mention Armadas! It doesn't give system locations! It just gives you a picture of a Klingon battleship so you looking for ships but you can't find as they don't exist
🤷♂️ not overly concerned with this - the event also has plenty of headroom builtin
they are Invading Entities (IE are not armadas or hostiles but players call them IE Armadas), and I showed you the new Region that they spawn in. I never showed a particular system
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you're lucky, an exception. Majority of the playerbase did not have the timing right for this to be doable
I'm aware of that, yes. I actually never really did them before, just always gathered the directives
@near saddle the event store redeem is a chance ... i need 9 lvl45s? 5 lvl50? in 3 days? even if i luck a start a day, ill not be able to complete this.
if this is a purchase only event, it should have the HEROIC tag. ty.
if the entire arc is heroic ill simply not engage at all.
I always keep my Revenant directives at 1,400 just in case something like this came along. The element of luck is whether your next batch lands in the five days.
i do that but i ran out of loot so spent all 14 the day before 😄
I have the same complaint with the invading entities one for today. Content creators always say to spend and use everything you have and this is exactly why you cannot do that!!
its very possible to have 42 starts. first week you gain 14, (max is 15) 2nd week gain 14 (you now have 28) 3rd week spend all 28 and gain another 14 = Total done 42 (of course this means ignoring the SSR Loop for 3 weeks) 😐
Scopelys intentions with these events might be to encourage spending, but they are just going to create more hoarders and halt progression
I agree completely. The problem with what you mention is “weeks”. How many “weeks” notice do we have for Boldly Go style events?
Totally agree. I'm only ops 56 but the arc is just not impressive and kind of stupid. The invasion sms are also poorly designed and not immediately clear at a glance.
Hoarding those is shooting yourself on the foot with material acquisition. So many useless armada starts we do hoard, and they chose the useful ones.
same with waves i have 122 normal starts, yet they chose Solo i have 1 start 😐
Agreed. Solo waves and krenim invading entities are going to prevent me from finishing the engage event and material spend is crazy
This is a mistake right or has Scopely math gone right off the rails on this one? I don't event know what to say, I have to kill 81,170 hostiles in the next 3 days in order to get to stage 3? This is not even a possibility because you Scopely have a hostile kill limit that won't let us get there AND I truely don't think it is humanly possible to do it anyways. QOL means absolutely nothing to you for us so this is just another let down that we have to endure.
I'm not convinced this event is engaging people. About 21 hours in, so pretty much everyone who wants to should have had time to play by now, and participation for the entirety of G4 is 86 people. I know there are about close to 200 in ops 40-42 bracket, as I usually use that for comparison since I'm in it, so this would be pretty poor even for just that section. For the entirety of G4 this is abysmal.
that's the server event
<@&509690795536941056> these events need a slight renaming to convey some better info at a glance. Stage 1 and 2 should have Hostile Hunt in the title to indicatethses stages are all about the hostiles, stage 3 should have Armada Hunt or maybe Invasion Hunt to inform us that this is when we should be doing the armadas, and stage should should have Transogen Rush to illustrate that its a mining event.
Being able to quickly determine what the events do without have to fully open the event is key. Its already like 3 clicks to get to this screen. And like 8 clicks to open each event to read the details to learn what needs to happen. Having the titles tell us explicitly what is happening would be best.
As pointed out this is a server event, but as it's a kill for points event hostile limit won't matter. If it was gain loot or rep from killing limit would kick in, but events that just want kills you can do even if you've hit the 2k limit. Not that I'm suggesting you actually try killing 86,000 hostiles.
Server event or not, screen time for this arc is just as bad as the last arc if not worse. I want my QOL back because you are supposed to have fun and enjoy a video game not have it run your life.
What are these battle pass points going toward if there is now currently running battle pass if it helps I'm ops 35
is it just me or are there no rare solo armadas for the new hurak people, i cant find a single rare armada on the server do they come later ?
how shall we do hurak invasion units when we do not get enough directives or even garantueed directives. this arc is horrible so far. your designers have no idea what players like to to and what not. be ashamed -.-
when your players with 12B cubes and 4B akiras go for the level 50 dropships to complete the event -- tells you that the event design is bad
lol and that the players really went up in ops too early xD
(signed, an ops 60 going for lvl 60 ships xD)
Well I'm Ops56 and can kill the 56 dropships easily...... The issue is I still need a gazillion of them
You get seven days, the timer goes on for an extra two days.
I have 3+ days to kill 90k+ dropships. What was Scopely thinking? Even if there wasn't a daily kill limit there is no way I'm going to do that.
its a server milestone, not just you
Worst part is My SMS now wants me to kill rare and epic entities to score but my server is still on Phase 2..
People are now finishing Phase 3 SMS while IMS is Phase 2 so when it eventally gets to IMS Phase 3 no one will have any directives to do the IMS Phase 3
Go outside, touch grass, enjoy what remains of summer.
It's ok .. you WON'T be able to even scratch the SMS3 since Scopely demands payment in large chunks to even try thos
@solar citrus kill limit only limits rewards u get from hostile kills. Can kill 1000000 if ur a bot or superman, just only get rewarded for first 2000
Work hard for the privilege of paying money to a company for a game you are supposed to be enjoying. It's a disgustful and perverse logic.
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Where is the weapons delay description? And how did I deplete shields when I did zero damage…
Another crap description of an effect from Scopely.
I wanted to upgrade my D'Vor with parts.
The new consumable says it reduces the efficiency by 50%.
I needed 34k parts, I have 18k parts.
I bought the new consumable.
Now I need 22k parts.
That's reduction by 33.3% not by 50%.
And it's now on a 7 day cooldown.
Thanks Scopely again for your great work.
(Answer to below, due to the dumb mechanism here on Discord not allowing me to send another message for a while: no, it does not say base)
does it say 50% of base?
Maybe not a popular request, but my rep is too high for my Ops already. Trying to help the server for the IMS is painful when the dropship rep is forcing my factions even higher.
I'd prefer they not give faction rep.
good change in IMS thingie, now just need to change stage 3, as there are still no rare armadas to be found
Anyone figure this one out? I don’t see any events out or on the schedule that seem to line up with the mission requirement.
No officer spend event this weekend? To clarify, a mat spend event.
They have had one every arc since I can remember, sometimes different format, but always had one. Now nothing?
Why would you ask for such punishment?
so now the server needs to kill 48,380 hostiles instead of 96,760 😂
each of us using our 2k hostile limit on it... yeah possible...
Scopley math
I'm ops 40 and can't scratch the lowest level Vanguard. I'm just not meant to get past Stage 3 of this SMS to do Stage 4 I guess?
That's probably the whole point - got to force some people to buy packs.
You can give us 100 Points per hostile kill for the IMS and I'm still not going to do it. Currently at Ops 64 I can only reliably kill the 58 hostiles, which seems to be the case for a lot of similar ops level players on my server which means that the systems which spawn that level of hostile are clogged (Except when the local warhorses roll in and kill everyone) and for the SMS I need over 300 level 58 hostile kills to get to stage 3, which looking at the maths I cannot do simply because I won't get enough directives.
The whole thing feels pointless, unfun and disheartening. I've spent a long time getting to ops 64 and more and more the events and new systems you introduce are far too strong for my level or require a specialty ship you introduce one patch later, it feels like you're attempting to force faster ops levelling and immense levels of spending solely on the fear of missing out.
Re: the invasion event...
my lvl-appropriate system is over-populated with the Epics. With zero rares populated.
And the only directives I've seen are rares. Haven't heard of anyone in my alliance having run an epic yet either.
Just sharing my experience. Server 704
@raw adder
Why aren't these Vanguard things Armadas instead of invading entities... Isn't the whole point of this arc getting people to work together?
Love to know how many in the ops 40-50 range are completing this drop ship event
Not many i suppose..but clearly this is designed for high level ops..
Who knows - wasnt Quality of Life a thing....having to hit 100,000 hostiles to complete one section is a bit of a stretch - proper stupid arc this one so far! Its just grind after grind with Scopely at min
S95 no rares anywhere @full swan
Yeah I gave up first day. I can only hit enemies with 3* canisters but I can't even refine it. So I said to myself. Six months of pure and simple ignore, boycott this arc.
I see absolutely NO point in having missions and events who's only purpose is to give out rewards for completeing other missions and events. Could have not wasted our screen space and time and just provided those rewards in with the first mission or event. Completely pointless screen clicks.
So these are absolutely fantastic, but it's completely stupid that you can only use them once a week.… Seriously? Once a week is little ridiculous… They should be 24 to 48 hours
Given the ISO Defense is probably key to killling the new armadas, I'd say the CD is excessive.
The current events are attrocious. Why aren't these events playtested by at least 3 people before released (and hopefully a server full of people)? Two grindy events where insuffienct resources are given: active players get and spend 1 Krenim per day if you are active but you should have 25 sets? I killed thousands of dropships over 2 days, get 1 pull but no directives are awarded for days 3 and 4.... What are the qualifications for Scopely designers? My elementary school son could make more consistent events.
Suuuuuure. Adjusting from 1 to 2 points per hit helps a lot😂 🤣
It's one more than yesterday so it's an improvement. Tomorrow they will sell you a prime that will finish the event with 1 hostile
That's scopely math... 50% reduction doesn't mean (amount) - (amount X 50%) like it does in the rest of the world. It means (Amount) X (100%/(100%+reduction) so a 50% reduction means (1/1.5) which equals 2/3 of the original.
So, to take this further, a 100% reduction does not mean it's free. It means it is 100%/(100%+100%) or 1/2 off.
This is what the 'new math' in school has been teaching our newest generation of programers. 😂
@full swan @near saddle could you see if you can modify the spawning repartitions between rare and epic hurak entities ? A 50/50 would be awesome so that players can always either do rare or epic depending on their directives pulls.
On 178 we are many players being stuck because there is no rare in the level 50 system.
Thanks in advance for your time.🖖🏼
Why does it give *4 of everything else but *5 for interceptors? 🤨 Ops 47
I would like to suggest giving us ops 40 plus players access to the 3 star transgenic canisters refinery please @full swan
<@&509690795536941056> so this is impossible to complete with the 2000 hostile a day cap as most people have to punch way down below their level for these hostiles, and since they refuse to raise the cap, those chests need to be a lot cheaper than they are… A lot cheaper. I'm ops 65, and if I could kill level 65 in this new area, then I could get three chests. It would be a challenge, but I could still do it.
However, I can only kill 60s reliably, but these chests assume I can kill 65s.
Rewards need to match what players can realistically kill (which is often 5+ levels below their ops level ) until you release a specialty ship that allows us to kill these properly
This invasion is a giant snooze of an event series with poor rewards. The engage! Is not engaging, just a mindless grind for poor rewards. And to top it off, we are stuck with more loot we can’t use. Can’t refine g3 auto grinders as a g4 player. Not that mining or auto grinding turns out to be worth it since the hazards kill me before I do much of either. Need g3+ hazard protection research if you’re going to give us hazards like g6. The consensus of my alliance, and based on the Ims- the server: this is a lousy boring badly planned mechanic.
I do not see the gold rush event but have a mission for it
Stage 4 of ims according to hammy
Now that Stage 2 IMS has dropships worth 2 points each, could there be some lower level dropship "interns" to hit for 1 point? This way lower level folks on our server can still participate in IMS.
so, i got that for a couple hours of farming ... lol
Why is there even g4 in the g6 economy
solid store for an OPS 66, note the epic g4 .. doesnt make sense
only epics, no rare. S155
Any update on the rare armadas? No way I can do the flashpoint events like this
Most events are heavy hostile grinding,no fun at all ,I rather go play other game
You need to fix some of the flashpoint events to where we can get the materials to do them or run them
Ugh. Exactly. I'm ops 62, and 58s are what I was killing. I wasn't going to bother, but I got through stage 1. Then, I saw what's needed for stage 2 is double, and saw I won't be able to do stage 3 either, so it looks like I and many others, like you, won't be going on, and that's ok. I don't want to be killing 300 more of those anyway. It truly is disheartening to have put so much time into the game, only to be given the middle finger by Scopely with these ridiculous grind events for the 3rd straight month, along with events you can't even complete without spending money. With the FP, I think they are counting on people being gullible enough to make it to stage 3 and want to spend to complete it. They can take these events and stuff it. It is getting easier and easier to not play this game. I'm sure one day soon I'll drop tags and be done altogether.
only epic invasion... what a mess... thats a bad joke
I like this idea a lot. Will pass on.
Scopely should hire me as a consultant. I promise my rates are reasonable.
I don't even think your example works right. Its even worse. I have a building needing approx 6500 ore, yet spocks 50% boost only removed about 200.
Scopely could hire someone with half a brain cell and it would be better than the content they are releasing.
I dread to think of the actual thought going into these arcs with the completely utterly insane grinds they are adding. Makes me wonder if they are getting a dartboard throwing a load of darts and multiplying all the numbers together to come up with these insane grinds that are pretty much impossible
Kinda hard to participate in Stage 3 of SMS when there is no rare enemy armadas. All there is in three systems I search so far is epic. Very disappointing
It's kind of hard when the only actual directive sourcing is money...
I did my first targ refine today and got zero directives. Zero.
Most people wont even bother with it anymore, it's just to insane of a grind for not even close enough rewards for the grind. Better off doing arenas fighting 70 ops with maxed ships, that's more fun
They do test it on maxed dev accounts and then they high five and say see how easy it is 😂
The Hiram events are a joke … might as well of made it a pay to play event … not like you already do that with one of the events … I bet you want the entire game a pay to play
Lol.. my server is currently at 11k/96k on the second IMS event. Most have already given up. Horid event.
when is the regular $19.99 battlepass coming back in the in-game store? I have Google credits I'm trying to use to buy it, but it's not in the store...
And with 1 person in the system because that simulates 10 people competing for 5 hostiles 🤣
Question: I killed a couple vanguard before I reached sms 3. I saw some people on here mentioned that they got points for vanguards killed before they reached sms 3 but I did not. What was the intent? Should I submit a ticket?
@full swan Thx again for the updates. Question, since we have so many different kinds of Event Stores this month, will the Rare Ticket Events this month reward any kind of Event Store Loot? Or will we be let down again like last month? Thx 👍🖖
So this new arc is even more of a grind by putting mining nodes inside hazardous space, which absolutely wasn't needed when below G6 doesn't have hazardous space research. Scopely in there limited wisdom decided to make the auto grind hostiles so hard that barely anyone seems to be able to hit their range.
After wasting countless speedups finding crews that work, one is found for the lowest G4 hostiles in Alpha Nerra, win. So i try the new crew in Beta Nerra and cant beat a single hostile.
I'm not behind on research and yes, the Pilum needs more upgrading but if a F2P Ops 46 cant do this, how are new G4 players supposed to do them... without getting out the SS credit card?
@honest sand yes, if they have infinite directives and all research and ops 70 ships, sure this is doable
Absolutely agree 💯
Your issue is not having a tiered up pilum. Until then, drop down a level or so, or consider changing the crew. (Doctor would work better in your screenshots than GG) 🖖
not got Dr yet and trying to source. If i drop down a level to the G3 ships, i don't get the rewards for the refinery, making it pointless. Unless I'm completely wrong (which happens).
The Stage 3 of the IMS is problematic because individuals are finishing stages 1 and 2 of their SMS and none of the progress they make on Stage 3 counts toward Stage 3 of the IMS
True on the loot change. And sadly the 46's are the lowest runners there are. Until you can tier up the ship a bit it's gonna be a case of crew tweaking then 🤷
Stage 3 only possible with spending money. Looks like the worst arc ever...
Half the arc is P2W.
ok you folks need to fix this mess in order to even attempt to beat the aramada part of the event you need almost a full 3 crate pull per day for 3 days now that being said it takes 169 hostiles level 52 to get enough loot to do that you guys off your friggen rocker
Scopely = Deaf Ears unless it's impacting whales. Don't bother.
I could complete stage 3.... if only there were a few rares left. there should be a hard lower limit of at least 5 rare entities. If <5 rares, new entity spawns as rare.
or, like the charged/static entities in Krennim space where half are designated as rare, half are epic, and they can't respawn as the other.
"Battle pass now fixed" my behind. Our two lvl 35 players got no chest to claim. Another Scopely fail.
same, no chest
I’m65 and the seconded hostile milestone 3 trip and not even close to the first milestone other than spending hour and hours and hours grinding if they keep doing this I am done not a penny more I can but 1 PS game on offer for a battle pass for vents I cannot finish and for more for the ships
No hope
I got 2 rare. Was set to use them. 3 systems have just Epic right now.
tried to send this message three hours ago. lvl 40s and 50s systems all have epic. Now I need to wait hours or days for a rare to show up for Stage 3 for Server 15.
this loop has convinced me not to spend another cent on the game until it returns to reasonable effort for reward. It’s not a kids game, money and time are not free.
Yup. Looking into it...
Been grinding for hours and not even at Tier 1 of stage 2. Another impossible event/mission
Well done scopely keep up the good work ....
where are you on the sms
That's a good start. While looking in to it, could you please also look into: the CLAIM ALL button causing people not to get resources that they would otherwise get with regular claims (and your support closing tickets when requesting compensation for the lost resources)? The 00m00 bug? Completely messed up systems like FSEP-505, where players are invisible on nodes, nodes are in wrong places (correct after another game restart)? Blank screen when claiming from refinery? And dozens other reported bugs that have been lingering and affecting players for months without a solution, and instead, players are being fed grindy arcs that make the best players, like our lovely lvl 61 super helpful commander, quit the game because they can't stand the quality of the product delivered please? Thank you so much in advance.
Completely agree. The points per hostile is way to low. I need to hunt over 300 to get to the final Milestone. Not doing that as it takes way to long and way to many hulls. Double the points would be a good start.
worry about the sms. the ims catches up eventually
"The Battle Pass is now live for Ops 35 players. To activate it, please claim the Battle Pass Start chest from the Gift section. A compensation chest will also be available in the Gift section for impacted players to claim."
Nope, there is no Battle Pass claim or compensation chest for me in the Gift section.
Getting the umphteenth grind in the year of "Quality over quantity."
Never mind, it has shown up now. However, the SMS and IMS are still not available.
Our players are reporting that they got the compensation chest, 70k points, but they still have no battle pass XD XD XD
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The Scaling on the mobs is awful. 2 Mobs Both "G5" level at 58 4 billion power and then 60 still "G5" suddenly jumps to 25 billion power. You put players into a situation where thyey have to punch down and get even less loot while having extreme amounts needed for turn ins. You are not going to have a willignplayerbase doing this for the next 6 months
ok you need to fix the respawn of the 45 rare this is ridiculous i been waiting on respawn for like 45 minutes now not a single rare armada repop in beta nerra
So disappointed 😔 why were we not told that if you bulk level the Forge building you don’t get the reward chests.
You can get them backlogged but you have to do the research first. its not an automatic every 10 level thing
indeed a great arc, dropped multiple miners, let them explode, rinse and repeat - all so you can maybe do one pull of each rarity next day .... time to go out and breathe some fresh air
They neglected to mention the research part in the video
ok what is this half coded garbage fix the spawn rates of the rare 45 armadas ive been aitng ovre 45 minutes here 2 systmes with 45s and neither one has a rare in it what kinda of garbage is this
@full swan hey anyidea when they gonna fix the respawn on these new rare 45 armadas i been waiting over 45 minutes and none have repopped in either beta nerra or wyte its all epics and some of us cant even touch the epics
Good luck waiting. I have been waiting a day now for rares…. Or even some information on when it will get fixed…. But now almost weekend so i bet we all lose out now
@full swan does this mean there isn't an SLB for the new officers?
there is slb for new officer, u gotta spend $$$$ for the forge or directives to deal damage to the hurak invading entities
Its their new scheme to squeeze money out of ppl or whales were complaining how ppl saved mats for weeks/months n snipe them last sec on the mat spend slbs
Im not going to spent mats on old officers. Wanted to ops Up. Seems like i wont
There goes my plans for progression this weekend.... I like the officer tokens, but why blow mats on something which likely already has sourcing in the game. The new officers are what motivates material spend through years of "being trained", not this month...
Serverwide, get others to kill too
this arc is a waste of time, 9m for one pull and no directives... this is total BS
Gotta give whales an extra advantage u know? now only they will unlock the new officers
So are those mat spend slb and sms going to reward enough tokens to claim the equivalent amount of shards that a standard officer event would hand out this weekend? Just got my acc to 50 and was waiting on a good spend event to jump straight to 59. This won't be it.
watch scopely panic when they see the lack of mat spend this weekend
Though likely won't. Plenty will probably still spend, not sure low spend/f2p mat spend makes a dent sad as it is to say ..... I hope you are right
I'm getting a lot of messages in AC (that I would love to share, but would probably get me banned) about how ridicules and time consuming these events are with people talking about taking breaks and/or quitting. This is not fun! Trying to keep my team motivated is a challenge on top of everything else!
Why would you go with this arc full of more grind and confusion and then also hold the Mak'ala's Crucible full of events with even more grind, some of which cant be done, on top of all the other required events? This makes no sense.
Are you all trying to reduce players and sabotage your game? Because it seems like all the feedback given is being ignored and you all are doing the exact opposite of what the majority of players have ask for.
Stop launching time consuming and confusing events and just please FIX the game!
pinged you
@full swan why were there no interceptor ship parts added to the BP?
So you put interceptor parts in the battle pass that are g6? I am ops 53 and don't even have a g5 ship yet. What good are g6 parts!
Yay no credit for day 3 log in and day for not registering yet either
This crap isn't fun it has become a pain. I already can't complete some of the beginning of it due to missing them because I'm working 2 jobs. So at this point I'm going to do what I can for my peeps when I can do it. Then I'm taking a break to consider whether I want to continue playing.
So my first chest yesterday I got rare directives, enough for two armadas… today I tried a pull for 2 chests… still only get enough for two armadas… yup.. not gonna finish stage 3, and considering stage 4 is mining and I don’t feel like mining for 18 hrs straight again… this looks like I’ll have a very relaxing weekend away from this game. It’ll be doubtful that I’ll be back at this point.
This is insane to treat ops 60 as g5 in all other instances except this event you give us g6 tier goals and tell us “we have unlocked g6 events” with no other consideration. Give us all the other benefits of g6 then. Daily pack pulls rewards etc.
Amen glad I’m not the only one voicing this
Anyone else more confused then confident in this multi tiered train wreck of a event line?
Seriously, what is wrong with you guys I need these points. No mat spending counting. Incredibly frustrating. I hope you guys modify this for next run. Who can do 40 solo waves. This is player punishing. To add insult to injury I spent on this and hopes of finishing this event and then read your announcement from two hours ago that you’re adding an auction this weekend. This is the kind of stuff that drives players away.
Need to fix the hardock armada spawns, should be fixed rare/epic spots similar to static/charged krenims, and respawning should be as fast as the krenim solos
Where the fudge-sickle are the rares?
The Hurak invasion sms is impossible to complete, every single system is jammed full of suliban chasers and the hurak never spawn.
I know of about a half a dozen players who have already left the game because the grind in this arc is too much. Another group says that they won't make it 6 months of this.
Even for me, this is too much. Just trying to complete the SMS events are taking all of my in game time. I can't get anything else done.
This is supposed to be fun; not a second job. There need to be adjustments to the event scoring, the refinery costs, the structure of the stores so you can find things.
And go back to the arc fall videos that actually tell you what's going to happen in the arc so that I don't have to waste my time trying to figure what I need to do.
I appreciate you trying new things, but baby steps. You don't need to turn it up to 11 on day 1.
People have been telling scopley this for 5-6 years man and scopley has always said they are listening and will do better. It’s never getting better.
wow the sms is imposible to do at my lvl lol the smallest dropship i can score with it 2 times my strength lol
Having the first 2 systems that 40+ in this Arc dropping useless materials for people they're aimed at seems like a hugs mistake and is very demoralizing. If there's nothing worth looting, why should I bother going there? Please adjust Wyte and Grajoel Transports to actually drop 4* canisters so that fresh lvl OPs 40 players want to participate.
Scopely won’t listen. Unless you have CC with big limit
@full swan #⭐-official-announcements message
our server IMS still shows 1 point for each hostile kill in the scoring description for stage 2.
Lately that hasn't helped. Ive heard not many whales (if any) are thrilled with this arc.
Well if enough people refuse to participate in this crud, maybe they will change the way they do it
And stop spending money too
Just stop playing. Best thing you can ever do.
so my Vorta will take 14 days to max pull UC from token space... is that tennable?
so stupid... i see no rare 55 -60 armadas... how can u code something like this 
Away team not counting either. Is scopley aware of this issue?
That looks familiar lol
Brilliant design just Chief kiss leave to you'll to make a task literally impossible to complete
I mean that one just takes buying some directives (Edit: Meant this as a sarcastic joke). Unlike the Stage 3 IMS/SMS where the armadas are not spawning any rares to complete.
Ya no we shouldn't have to spend to complete any of those tasks it's poor design
Last time that kind of event rolled around, they planed half of it to be f2p and that you need to spend money if you want all the task. This time around i feel its not as Bad. But still, wave, poly or invading entities might be a directive problem for many. But I never expected that all tasks will be f2p
And they wonder why their game is dying
Stage 3 EMS is impossible to complete as there is no respawn of rare invasion entities on our server.
Nicely played — players only receive rare starts, with just a 15% chance to get an epic. Meanwhile, the system is filled with epics and doesn’t spawn any rares
<@&509690795536941056> Respawn of the invading entities are shot. Only Epics in every single system now, no more rares. And with only a 15% chance of epic directives in the chest, nobody has directives to try and kill them, let alone the power for it.
Nevermind, overread it in the known issues
“Nice limited time directives you’ve got there, commander. It’d be a real shame if none of the armadas ever spawned.” -Lord Scopely, probably
<@&509690795536941056> can you tell us when in goods name that rare invasion bug is fixed?! the playerbase is really sngry about that performance of scoplays gamedesigner. reduce that redicules grind! reduce the pay to play content!
Good thing I have a bunch of rare hurak directives that are apparently worthtless.
I still want to know how it is reasonable to expect the SMS to be 129 - 209 kills at L60/62 with 30 to 50 hulls and how many hours <@&509690795536941056>
are you sure you are completing rare or epic? UC and common dont count for that one
Only 17 servers World wide have managed to reach Stage 3 🤮
https://stfc.pro/flashpoint
Top server: Tosk (205.29 pts). Updated: 7/12/2025, 11:02:49 AM.
No way to complete stage 3. Only systems with a Rare and way out of my league
Ok, I am ops 45 100m power with a 92m valdore. I have a good krenim crew and I can punch up several levels for krenim. Just tried a 45 epic and didn't even scratch the paint on it 🤷♂️
Might have been said earlier, I can't be bothered to look. But to include Borg Polys in your tasks to complete is a joke when they regularly break and don't register.
It's no good spewing the typical line "The starter must put in a ticket and we will look into it".
How about either fix them or pick something else, it genuinely isn't that difficult a choice to make but you seem to want to make it difficult.
Does anyone ever think about planning anymore. Even my work place it's the planning Dept which is usually the root of all problems.
Wakey wakey.
Relax guys. It's meant everything to be difficult so next month when they launch the ship, all those "whiners" to buy the ship and continue yet another grind 🙂
IMS Lvl III - 2118 epic armadas? kiddn me? and rares does not respawn from day 1. <@&509690795536941056>
20 according to stfc.wtf now. and 11 of them have started scoring stage 3 😂
<@&509690795536941056> - tell me that Flashpoint SMS Pt 3 is a joke - unless you are incredibly fortunate in your pulls ( and I got non on my first try) you are forced into buying starters for the new entities. If it's not then this is just an ill concieved money grab on what is so far an icredibly tedious grind arc
Ich hatte Transogen Schmiestaub in der raffenerie unter Rohes Rafiniertes ... eingetauscht um in der Forscheung "Schmiedebelohnungseinforderung" zu erfüllen.... Dort werden die Transogen Schmiedestaub jedoch nicht angezeigt.? Es hatte Stunden gedauert das zeug zu sammeln....... Es ist nun wirklich langsam an der Zeit.
Es gibt so viel was nicht so funktioniert wie er kommuniziert ist,
But the video presentation was amazing of what was coming in this Arc , A nightmare
My Video presentation of this game will be amazing too^^
45 minutes in this Stage. Nobody Scores. Systems are full with epics. No rares.....
Where the rare for event only epics and no token for it
just another fail of an event, grind is too mental, rewards too little and on top of that you can't even do a portion of it due to copy pasting of previous event codes (early krenim solo mada had the same problem, sarris store costs/setup)
fix the rare spawns or else
Or else I will bare my bottom and fart in your general direction 💨
Man, my bad. I thought rainbow missions counted. With mays not counting I thought this one was also busted
Needs work. Not paying out
its funny, didnt we have this same issue when they added krenim solos, systems were eventually all static or all charged until they fixed it,
yes
Yeah, so a couple of days before this event I jump from ops 56 to 61... why not right? Revenant is max tier, relativity needs g6 mats, and you drop this abomination! It'll take me 20 days to do the sms pt2, and everything else? Nothing in the last 3 years has urged me to quit the game than this event! I can't compete in anything! The only saving grace, is the fact that I was ops 56 long enough to ftp a d'deridex and Selkie, only to be extorted to death by this event! Sorry, I don't have 20 hours a day to spend grinding this garbage!!! Some of us have a life, friends, family! Pure garbage!
where r th 55 rare hurak vanguard entities i cant find them?
It is very frustrating that there are no rare Hurak Vanguard targets in multiple lvl systems. But there are lots of epic Hurak Honorguard targets in multiple lvl systems.
And we have rare directives we'd like to run. But no epic Directives to run (though some of us would like those too)
And the chests have timers. As does the IMS stage 3 event. Meaning the longer this issue drags on the higher the opportunity costs for both players and entire servers.
Can <@&509690795536941056> share an update about progress toward resolving this issue? Beyond that it is in fact one of the #🛠-known-issues
There are no rares in our servers systems, they have all been used and spawned to epics how do we do this event
<@&509690795536941056> Please fix the spawns so we don't have systems full of only epics
K doing this flashpoint grind every week is so unreal. You have to repeat the same thing 3 weeks in a row. Do you have no other ideas on events? REALLY?
Oh hey look ... a new level of Scopely not caring for their players ...
Now spending events are only scoring for G6 materials, anything below has now become useless apparently...
dont worry I doubt any will complete stage 3
Oh look, a spend event that only score for G6. At Ops 62 I had planned to max out my G5 Epic. No longer. This is epically bad design. Perhaps today and this weekend is a good time to play another game
and the spend event isn't even good towards the new officers...just the tokens that have been there for 2 months now.
No g4 mat scoring for ops60?
Or G5 This may be the worst spend event ever
Could this be fixed asap. We need the rares
Spend event feedback: What a load of c... Why are we not getting the new officers ? Scrw F2P ?
Who's stupid idea was it to exclude g5 mats from the G6 slb? And more importantly who decided to listen to them?
On top of this how come lower grade mats were removed for G5 and G6
IF the new $copely was a typical enterprize, this event would be "strike 3".....3rd awfull event in a roll.... Fire the "brains" behind it and restart withna decent crative team !!!!
But as it is, they maybe earn an "employ of the month" for making us yeld loud and **** here !!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
my guess on this Mat event as it wasnt scheduled was it'a a "lets test and see what kinda reaction we get" if this is the case pretty sure the reaction from most is 💩
This no rare spawn literally bricks the event not sure what we can do about it xD
Individuals cant score = no sms progress.
Server cant score = no ims progress
I'm a Commodore on server 704
I wanted to like Flashpoints. I often tell folks my favorite things in the game are the ones we do together (Apex Thursday, Incursions, Alliance Tournament, etc.). But so far this game mechanic misses the mark. From my vantage point, here's why:
- Confusion. It's been a challenge to determine how this game mechanic works and therefore how to strategize. Just sharing my experience- on Day 1 (Thurs), I killed enough hostiles to 3-chest pull the event store chest to get directives. And then I ran the Rare Vanguard's (the invading entity / solo armada) that I had. At that point I had completed SMS stage 1, but not SMS stage 2. After spending all my directives, I went back to grinding Dropships. I then completed SMS stage 2 that afternoon of Day 1. Upon completion, I noticed that my SMS stage 3 credited me points for my activity earlier that day. So based on that experience: I told server mates like @raw adder,@light wadi, and @chilly prawn that we needed to be working on all the tasks concurrently, and we would be credited upon completion of the prior stage (the pre-requisite for earning points).
As that day wore on one other player had the same experience I had (credited points in SMS stage 3 for activity they had completed prior to completing SMS stage 2). Other alliance mates of mine did not have that experience: they had no points credited on SMS stage 3, though they had defeated the Rare Vanguards earlier in the day.
Now today: I completed SMS stage 3. And have been mining since Thursday. But I see I was not credited points in SMS stage 4 for activity I'd done prior to completing SMS stage 3.
There wasn't clear communication about how this game mechanic worked. Poor communication from STFC that it worked a certain way, or that my experience from Thursday was an outlier.
ops up mat spend for old officers? noty, ill spend the minimum to get a few Engage milestones only.
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> is there any news on the fix for rare Hurak Honourguard respawn time? Clock is kinda ticking on this event and the 66 system is completely empty of rares
continued
We'll know better next time. But I wish STFC had given clear communication about how things worked so that groups could better strategize how to complete milestones and stages.
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Misaligned Incentives. For stage 1 and stage 2 of the SMS, players are awarded increasing points for defeating higher level hostiles. For stage 1 and stage 2 of the IMS, servers are awarded the same amount of points for defeating any level hostile. Players at the top of an SLB could punch up and defeat higher level hostiles, and then sit on their laurels. There's no AMS or ALB to incentivize pride in performance for alliances or give alliance leaders the ability to track alliancemate engagement. Furthermore- stage 4 SMS is mining, and stage 4 IMS is pulling chests. Not the same thing. Furthermore- there are chests in the event store that incentivize doing the Epic/Rare Solo Vanguard/Honorguard. But apparently players should have held off running those armadas so as to score points for the server once stage 3 is unlocked. Therefore costing them the opportunity to have pulled rare/epic chests and gained individual rewards. I can understand how THAT misalignment of incentives may have been intended: forcing a "choose your own adventure"-style choice. From an alliance leadership perspective I can tell you: it's hard enough getting many of our players to engage in group content already. Making it such that we have to urge players to go against their personal best interest is unfair game design. Please align the incentives all the way down the line: from SMS to IMS, and with players and their server.
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Intense Grind with Poor Rewards. I don't imagine I need to go into detail here. If you want us to engage with the content, pls make it worth our time.
@raw adder @floral folio @obsidian gulch @chilly prawn
Hello. Feedback is: Love Boldly Go, even if some is hard to do. But can maybe run it during low activity days like between arcs instead of during a HEAVY grinding other arc?
you really need to change the mats slbs .... how are players that have just gone to G6 able to compete in these events ... without being able to spend G5 mats ... players are gonna be leaving ... everyone is absolutely livid .... CHANGE THIS NOW !!!
The issue with your "cosmic choice recruits" event instead of the usual officers recruit is that there is no way to get the new officers... ONLY PAY FOR THEM !
Why are there chasers in token mining space. I lasted 30 seconds and got destroyed.
Of course, another way for them to get your money - did you expect something else?
why is the SMS only 2 days this time instead of the previous 2 weeks+?
not really, indeed. It's always worst at each Arc, more way to get players money with more bugs... Sad, it was a nice game
Also apparently with it cutting off At G6 The primes that take G7 materials won't score either
and I STILL have no fricken place to spend uncommons at a new Ops 61 yet for cosmic choice. i've not got much but i have 30K 6* uncommon ore, 32K 6* uncommon gas and 29K 6* uncommon crystal. cant complete the boldy go day 5 mats task and cant spend them in the cosmic choice. i'm not bitter. its just the lemon juice poring from my eyes in waves of tears
Nice way to slap all the players in the face that plan to OPs up. On the one hand you tell the people "Uh level up, spend money, make your live a living hell" and on the other take away the ability to plan or even the carot on the stick so even go forward!
Scopely you think Officer Choice Recruit tokens for already easily accessible officers will convince me to ops up and spend mats? Boy are you wrong! Please bring back the new officers in spend events. It was such a nice way for those of us minimal spenders to actually get the new things and play with them a bit.
Im also wondering ... as a G5 player with the mats SMS how i can spend G6 uncommon and rare mats ??? someone let me know .. i dont even have them ... 😂 cause i really dont wanna go to g6 and not be able to spend G5 mats in events ... seriously scopley sort out this mess ...
$€0p£€¥ gives us a 1 finger salute once again.
41 servers on stage 3, of these 41 servers, 5% is the highest completion rate... says alot
Seems like you hate us ... Why is this G4+ only?
When are the rest of the officers being added? If you are doing this then it's reasonable to add the NEW officers
They dont hate us, but they only like us for our wallets
Get your act together Scopely……..don’t put out events that can’t be done because you can’t make Rare Hurak spawn!
Known issue with no time scale on it….!!!!!
I will also throw my voice in with those who dislike the new scoring for the officer spend event. I thought you wanted people not to camp. As a ops 50, I have way too many g4 mats to not wanna camp for awhile to spend them. This seems to be the opposite of what your stated intentions are.
Please restore previous mats to the scoring metric and dont punish upwards progress.
As an Ops 61 player, limiting the spend event to G6 only and not having the new officers in it, sucks. Please change it back.
What did you come up with with stage 3? There are no rare armadas in the systems. Only epic ones. The server does not advance in the event at all! What kind of joke is this? I am shocked by the arc. It's just a hellish grind. Either live in the game or don't play. What a mockery
Wow, someone who completed Stage 3. Most of us stopped after seeing stage 2 lol. I'm not bothering, as seems to be the case with most servers. Only 18% worldwide have completed stage 3.
No one has completed stage 3
Office depot is a terrible idea to replace the spend event.
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. 75% chance to get a rare and I got one out of three. Have yet to get an epic. Scopley RNG strikes again. No one will finish Stage 3 without whales spending mega $$.
First they took away the rares, now they took away the epics. Complete and utter trash changes.
Just go back to doing the three week officer SMS events fgs and put G5 back in.
They took oooor jooooobs
These milestones are nuts consider there is no way to save 40
1 wave round counts so 1 run you get 5
40 waves, not 40 starts
E.g. There are 5 waves in a level 50 solo
So you only need 8 runs at g5, which you probably also won't be able to do 🙃
Personally my favourite thing is when I start a solo and it boots me out the game, instantly wasted 3 days of ciphers 😅
here is a sarcastic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 to them ones that decided to remove g3/g4/g5 mats from g6 ppl spend event ...
great job , in making the game su.ck even more 👍 ...
Can we pls get a statistic on how far servers got in the invasion? Just so we know how much they screwed the event up 🤣
Top server: Tosk (205.44 pts). Updated: 7/12/2025, 5:47:54 PM.
Not surprised to see my own server (706) in last place 🤣
not many servers will finish this off as no rare vanguard madas spawn, so the arc part is as much use a my chocolate bar in this 32% heat
Yep. As much use as a chocolate teapot
@full swan
Darling, be a good sport and give me a Part 2 and 3 and 4 please 😂
Rare hurok armadas would help complete the ims. Just an idea
So we get yet more grind (sure we can pick and choose, but the IMS screams everyone should help). Doesn't archive any old loops, but add new exocomps to "ease" old loops. And to top it off, the spend event isn't even the third epic officer since Scotty is tied to Boldly Go event and T'Pring to the new Syndicate expansion. Yeah this arc is now offically imho the worst arc yet. I'm sure Scopely will find a way to make it worse in the next one
Only G6 mats count for ops 65 spend mats event SMS? Shame on you, scopely.
Sshh I'm trying to get another SMS 😬
See you're the reason they keep on pushing worse and worse events, they see people do them even when they are just far worse than before but keep on spending
Only allowing g6 mats for the sms seems unusual
Yeah! I went ahead out of habit because the past 100 SLBs have been like this that g5/g4 counted as well and used a lot of g5 mats…Im not happy about it! If they think I’ll spend more just to compete in another SLB, I will absolutely not. This only helped in my decision to cease all spending.
Again such a vital piece of information was not communicated at all… again…
Yours is a newer server
It's scopely, you could give them the absolute worst feedback ever and they will continue to do whatever they want regardless of what anyone says because they couldn't care less about the game
Rare Hurak Vanguard solo madas. Whats the deal, its been days with limited to no respawn. If you want us to do content give us a freekin target to hit🤦♂️
Glad no rare vanguards spawn. What a joke.
I dumped a lot of g5 as well before realizing it didn’t count. With most g6 spending behind the sigma speedup bottleneck, it’s like they are trying to force people to spend on packs to get the latest for completing jobs.
I’m not going for that, stopped spending outside of $20 battlepass after ops 62. This event style is frustrating and pushing me closer to quitting altogether.
If I get a Part 2 and so on I'll keep spending mats but I'm not going to spend 6x of what I can do just for a SLB.
Besides, if you don't like the Event. Avoid it, simples 🤷♂️
Doesn't look like the rare armada's respawning on server 76 in the new space for the IMS event only the epics are respawning
it's a know bug no ETA on the fix yet 😦
<@&509690795536941056> Perhaps it's time fo fix some of the issues? I'd also advise that next time the armadas only spawn after stage 2 is done
No such thing as a Sigma Speedup Bottleneck, you're just lazy and expect a free ride for progression.
cant do em anyway they all epic
600 points short for the crucible.
Aint doing anymore 🥵🥵🥵
Out of armada credits and or sigma speedups plus the 40 elite waves which are a no no.
🧐🤔
That's part of my point, they really need to fix the issues
I suspect its working as intended, they want it completed by opening wallets
great tooltips, helps a lot
But, shouldn't the epics need to be defeated first in order to make space for the rares to spawn?
cant when the chance to get epic directives is 15%
I’m done spending any money until Scopely starts treating it’s players better.
Issue #1. for months you gave us an sms and slb for the new officer. It is an established mechanic at this point. For you to take away our ability to earn those shards is a low blow
Issue #2. the ims with only epic armadas to complete it is not right. This makes the event not completeable.
Instead of trusting that we would spend money because we are enjoying the content, you are trying to force us to spend to complete events. I for one have had enough. Scopely will not get another dime from me until they start treating their player base like we matter.
That would need us to get the directives to fight them and wouldn't surprise me if the dropships take the place of armada nodes
The only way to get scopelys attention is to hit them in the wallet. If players stop spending and their revenue goes down, then maybe they will listen to what the players want
<@&509690795536941056> were is the rare drop ships I can only find EPIC, tried every system none?
and no one has ever said that and suggested that every day for the last 7 years. So again, good luck.
12k points to finish stage 3 hard to get epic directives only had 2 starts pulling max chest each day, can start 9 rares but only epics are spawning, yeah this is going great, keep up the good work scopely 😒
<@&509690795536941056> It's summer time and I'm not doing this stupid grind 3 times during the month. Fix it or lose players.
looks like stage 3 IMS scoring is as good as stage 2 was, would be advised that you really take the time to do some math on how these events can be completed
fix it or my server will burn and people will rage quit from getting killed constantly
Flashpoint is an epic failure, just like the movie Scopley stole the name from. The content creators said they wanted something new players to drag about so other players would want to the new content, I would not recommend this content or game to anyone. This ARC has broke more things that I have time to type. I have told members of my Alliance to only do what they and waste resources on something that can't be done without spending at least $300. @full swan <@&509690795536941056>
Still no rare lame new madas spawning. This is game breaking and yall won’t even know about it until it’s basically over…… going to be basically over for multiple players as well. The idea is fun but the implementation and ability for us to do this ( what 3 times ) over a month is crazy. Stop drinking your own kool aid and listen to the players.
Only G6 mats count and all i can get are old officers? Why would anyone actually fight over a position in these slbs? Every new thing makes this arc just worse.
First defeat epic then spawn rare Armada same place.
G6 only mats for old officers is yet again one of the worst decisions you can make. Peoples progress is fluid, it is not stuck in one generation.
Where did the drop ships go? On s70 we are seeing traders
Hahaha now all the Hurak has disappeared. All of them. LOL
Server 14 has no drop ships either
they might be resting them with that bug we had
They're gone here in 706 too
So does anyone know when we are actually going to get an Arc instead of these between arc events
Dont worry guys, they will autocomplete stage2 as compensation.
Server 99 has no dropships either, along with the armadas gone. Congratulations onscrewing up an iimpossible grind for all levels of play @full swan <@&509690795536941056>
Well that doesn't help me I finished stage 2 days ago. I only know it isn't working because my hubby is trying to finish his. That's ok I can't do the vanguards anyways because there are nothing but epics
just when your thinking scopley and this game are a complete joke and it can't possibly get any worse, they go and one up themselves
We couldn't get that lucky
just a good old "turn it off and on again"
Maybe they got hurt that no one was firing them and went home 🤣
https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-leaving-tigger-sad-tigger-meme-meme-gif-1861164940938639699
I got rare s38
The arc is getting dumber every day, now the opponents are gone. I thought it couldn't get any worse after the last one, but apparently it does
Dear Ferengi who run this game. I noticed at ops 56 I can no longer use 4* mats in the spend event. Could please ask your master Quark to stop being sooooooo greedy and put 4* mats back in the spend events?
Oh and open up g5 scrapping!
Greed. Greed. Greed.
How should anyone complete Level 3 of the Hurak event, when the rare armadas did not respawn in the last few days???
they think we should buy epic dirs , jb 😂
thats how
buy the epic directives by all means, good luck using them though as epics are now no longer spawning 😂
Epics are spawning for 45s, everything else is spawning as rare now. Fixed!
I'm sorry what? You want our server to do 13530 rare armadas, or 3383 epics? I seriously can't see that ever happening. Even if everyone on our server was a) big enough to do them b) active... it's still a ridiculous ask.
For the new missions i should complete milestones from the hurak event i think. unfortunately i don't have it, ladies. It seems, the hurak event is only for 60+. How should i complete milestones then???
<@&509690795536941056> @full swan
having missions gated behind directives that we don't have and even if we had them they wont spawn right..broken..we should get a comp chest that auto completes the mission
having crucible spawn at the same time as a new arc with a new complex loop with 3 new mining and mulyiple new ships grinds all start at the same time was a BAD BAD BAD design decision. If you had 1) let us get used to new loop 1st and 2)announced crucible and what the tasks were so we could prep for them we would not be FRUSTRATED players some of whom quit over stupidity like this.
More for 66+. Lower 60s are just as scrèwed as every else.
Now that the new armadas are fixed and I can see what rewards I’m getting for the time it takes I’ll be spending my time fishing instead of playing stfc.
Just got 300 rare hurak directives in a gift which I assume will be announced soon. My feedback is that I won't be using them even if my server gets to stage 3 simply because the slog to get there for the SMS is not something I want to do. I've posted before that it'd take me 300 hostiles and that's not something I'm willing to do, it's simply too much time spent vs reward given.
It makes you wonder if they want us all intentionally to fail to drive the push/pull 6 month narrative.
giving us a comp chest of 300 rare vanguard madas, the whole issue was these aint respawning, so whats the point, they just dont get it
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My contribution.
Thanks for the extra rare directives, Scopley. Do you happen to know where the rare armadas are located? I can’t find them. At all.
@full swan if no one has yet to express it, I would like to that you for the announcement of the cosmic choice slb and sms. That being said, it really sucks that you omitted that the sms is a (heroic) level event. This on top of the sms and ims that requires us to destroy vanguard and honorguard really sucks and shows the devs greed.
These Vanguard solo armadas are very unbalanced and make no sense from a loot perspective.
I am ops 53 and kill the 50s easily, but get absolutely annihilated by the next available strength, which is 55.
Where is the middle ground?
Also, the loot boxes for the 50s give 4* Transogen Containment, but I only have the option to refine the 5* Transogen Containment loot...
<@&509690795536941056> So, very exciting to have new Syndicate levels, but we didn't get a single syndicate event this week. No artifact event, no cosmic assets faction credit spend event, no FKR rep grind event, no mirror research event.... what happened to our syndicate events so we can work towards the new goodies (not that my syndicate is that high... got a long ways to go and a week of no syndicate event is uh..... meh!)
Is it me or am I missing something here. I’m hitting drop ships. Level 54 to be exact. The first hit coming into the battle are I take little damage hitting a 54 drop ship. The next drop ship 54 I hit. It take almost half of my 750 million ship power and the rest take little damage for hitting them. I check them out and both are the same. Battle report shows it hitting far harder than the first one it hit and the others after it. Am I missing something here.
What is this crap?
i have a question. some how i have missed the Gold Rush event. I have an mission to do this event but i have been on everyday since the release and i have not seen it. Also, My previous mission of Khans challengers is still there and i have no clue where these challengers are to defeat. .. Where is BEC??? I am partially Deaf and i cant understand heavy accents these day. llap
you didn't miss it, it's ims 4
and the khan's champions require you have a high augment rep
This is stupid. Plain and simple stupid. You guys are really trying to make people quit
Absolutely, I had tons of stuff saved up and started spending it, then realized it gave no points. I'm Ops 61, I basically can't spend 6* yet
where are the 45 rares??
According to this #🛠-known-issues message the recent Flashpoint Events will return. These events haven been the most un-fun grind I have experienced in a long time. Hazards reset the ship, rewards in the SMS / IMS don't feel meaning ful. Scoring targets are WAY out of the park - should be cut down to 1/5 or even 1/10 of their original target. Same goes for the event store 3x pulls which are required to complete the IMS#3 and SMS#3 stage events. With the augment grind two months ago there was at least an FC waiting for you - and you could do it at your own pace. Now the events are tightly timed and you are the mercy of the rest of the server to progress.
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First, No matter spend for officer SLB??? Guess scopley doesn't want me to spend this month! And why is the worthless SMS evet 5* and higher only? No point in bothering as rewards aren't worth it and your artificially limiting our spending capacity by trunkating what materials we can use.
Also, Who decided not to have any other level between 50 and 55 for these new rare entity armadas. It's a huge power jump! Would be better to have another one in-between to allow for those not ops 60 to have a chance.
this is their periodic attempt to see what they can get away with. keep raising your voices and vote with your wallet. Especially when the ineveitable ship comes in the later arc.
Quick question: with the crucible finished you should get a free unlock of SNW scotty, right?
Which is absolute 💩
Sooo..now what? You get nothing? It even shows it in the picture...
You are not gonna tell me, you need all of our time AND money, right?
You get the chance to spend $99.99 to purchase the unlock, enjoy your game!
Okay, so this is a feedback channel, so here is my feedback: I am not gonna bothering with this arcs and events anymore. Time to move on. 🤷♀️
Any chance one of these arcs will have the stability, crashing, freezing, artifacts errors, visual bugs, ship warp bugs, or appropriate sliding difficulty scale based on level of player and age of server addressed? Any chance of a non pay focus update to even remotely balance pvp or is it primarily just going to be more pay to play? (not even just pay to win) Just failing to see the incentive to dump thousands into a game that isnt addressing the basics before asking for another monthly handout to try to play a new grind now that pvp is just for measuring credit card usages for the month? Tacking heroic next to an event does nothing but signify costs money to play. And sometimes you don't even get that warning. My feedback for this event is whoever thought this was a good idea to double down on new stuff just to get another sales bonus instead of trying to grow the community by addressing the flaws or putting a more attentive testing and thought into scoring and time constraints may you have the type of day you deserve.
Simple question:
how should IMS Stage 3 work when most of the server captains finished their SMS 3 before IMS 2 is finished?
Did you think they would wait?
Or did you hope that the whales would buy the server out?
Maybe have the live testers (if there are any) make sure to do it without editor mode or maxed out features and try to measure the feasibility in real time needed to accomplish the tasks or even beat anything level appropriate. Maybe try the event without all conditions being maxed and optimal. A 61 shouldn't have to be able to compete with a 63, a 69 shouldn't have to compete at the same level as a 70 for event scoring standards for sms. It's not even the same ballpark for power. And a 61 definetly shouldn't be in the same scoring as a 70. And so on down the list for levels. If ya really wanna break it down for points vs hostiles look at what ship is available, then ask your self if the ship has half way teired up would it be able to do the event in a reasonable amount of time without a mortgage payment occuring? Maybe while your at that for event testing take a look at pvp, if a single item, artifacts, officer, or forbidden tech etc can completely make size of ships, triangle, or other equalizing factors not matter then you haven't provided a competitive environment, you have provided a wallet measuring environment. A ship with triangle advantage 10 to 20 times larger than an opponents ship using the same crew shouldn't be able to just completely melt the bigger ship and take no damage. That's unbalanced, defeats the competition aspect (wallet warrioring) and yet another aspect of game that you clearly don't want to support so you try to limit to just those willing to spend recklessly. If that's the goal you don't have to address stability to enable large scale pvp be fun then message heard. It's one thing when folks want to spend and mine a bit faster, shoot a slightly larger hostile, etc. But come on, your so far out of balance between pvp and pve stuff now you aren't even setting up reasonable scoring parameters.
My recommendation is address your bugs first (including server stability), test them before launching new content, and try not to make pvp boring.
Well as a 70 and the rare hurak issue there is NO point in wasting my rares in the 46 system, wouldn't even be able to make a chest pull, the comp was ridiculous should have bee 1500 epic directives minimum
Having a spend event that does not offer the new officers was bad enough....but having that event limited with only G5 U and higher is just dumb. You all encouraged us to lvl up and are now punishing us. We cant win, no matter what we do. Id like to know the reasoning for this.
An SMS event that depends on RNG to gain Epic directives in order to complete is hair brained. These events are horribly scaled and the spend event is even worse.
Again, events, arcs, stories, etc...deigned by people that do not play the game they were hired to make content for.
In exactly the same position, what a joke. Have an Ent A waiting to be upgraded to T12, so I can then Max my Ent D. 0 points if I spend what I've saved to do it
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the 'loss' is manufactured (i.e. the scoring is delibrately ridiculous) to ensure a specific storyline outcome across the board, under the guise of us all 'failing' but it really was a no-win scenario from the outset.
honestly looking at the vanguard defeat ims I was thinking, either they are actually imbibing the really good heavy substances or we were never meant to get close to beating that thing. even if every 60+ on the server was able to beat them in one go, even if they were spawning correctly, the number of directives alone it would take is ridiculous
i was on the dev team for another live service game and we regularly would run events that were unbeatable, and pretend that it was a failure of the community to then fudge the numbers at the last second to make it a last-minute victory.... so we'd mess with the scores on the server-side to make it look like there was a final push toward victory.
We'd also inflate scores if the community wasn't participating as much as we hoped they would.. so, this could all just be a terrible attempt at manipulating a storyline on scopely's part.
I used to work commiunity event team for another game and we would pull similar moves, but... we were jsut trying to make things fun for people who were paying mostly just a flat monthly fee or four, so it was all about actual participation not shaming the server for not spending tens of thosuands of dollars for an event. If theres a pay-to-play/win aspect there has to be a bit more trasparency as to what spending $ will actually get. But also leaving everyone below their target whale level with nothing to do really to participate is shooting themselves in the feet, what about the whales who are jsut getting started and are at ops 50 right now? they've been agressively marketing to bring in new players, and this is what they log into see as they're getting started?
my other fun conspiracy theory tinfoil hat explanation is that the content wasn't ready for the victory condition and they're just biding time until the mid-month patch and forcing the failure this round to protect themselves from incomplete content leaking out into the wild... i dont know how else to explain a server needing to complete 13,500 rare armadas when directive sourcing is RNG and inconsistent.
Also the boneheaded move of an event that has everyone bringing most or all of their ships into systems with a damage tick when the servers already have stability issues on top of the myriad other glitcheds that never get fixed.
you're lucky. I'm Ops 65 and only G6 counts. at least you have G5 and G6.
I'm sorry for the G6 players! This is ridiculous!
it's just **** all around. If we could up refine G5 to G6, etc. that would be so helpful....so there is no way we're getting that for free
It's like they are trying to disenfranchise the players (especially the spenders) and sabotage the game.
Great Job on giving us back the RAREs but now we have no EPICS?????? how are we supposed to complete this event?? Why didn't you split the system like the Krenim 1/2 epic 1/2 rare? and we need more starts this is the WORST ARC and events ever for what rewards more artifacts shards.... Also all that work in the Mak'ala's Crucible for 10 SNW M Scott shards? not even a full unlock with all the time and mats/starts spent. HORRIBLE just HORRIBLE give us something. All the event goals are to high, Hazards suck (give a little grind /rewards towards hazard resists), Goals are to high, LET US PLAY The game give us what we need to complete these events... Hazard resists, armadas starts, NOT every new content needs to give a challenge to max 70s whales. we need more resources to progress GAS, Titanium and Ore.
5 years of precedent for scoring for the mat spend event thrown out without notice. You could have told us that you were going switch to locking it into generational mats. I could at least have used my g5 mats on some dailies instead of not scoring for the officer depot token event
Lol now there are only rare armadas in new space, no epics 🤣🤣
hi good morning Borg Spheres aren't counting towards the event? which Borg
solos are needed?
Borg type 03 with the Rev
Curious why you want do to do that? What's the point
I think this event, if not the end, will be the beginning of it, people aren't angry, they are demoralized. They don't know what they need to do, they have 9 new things to grind and most under 50 can't touch most of it
Boldly Go was much better executed this time. Except it sounded like we would unlock Scotty and now it’s a pay wall. That was rough and felt like I had something taken away. Please work on phrasing.
The rest of this arc feels cheap. There is a disconnect between grinding and rewards. Paying to get directives to compete events is not fun (I get it for Heroic events, not normal ones). Grinding out rewards with the option of the pay-to-win shortcut is how the game has worked when started playing it. Whatever this is now does not feel fun and engaging. Please consider:
- Raising the 2k hostel kill limit please. The mindless auto grind for event points is sooo frustrating with the limit in place
- Naming mission / event requirements to match (eg what is Gold Rush for the mission…is it an IMS stage?)
- Naming the legacy officer abilities to describe what they actually work on.
Arc is trash
Gold Rush event, the title is apt, spending is required to reach totals, won’t be spending on the Gold Rush Event. The benchmarks are set extremely High
Event quests are undoable for a ops lvl 42 player, how am I suppose to defeat a 45 rare Armada? And not 1 but at least 10 of them for the event
<@&509690795536941056> can we please get a comp on the points for stage three SMS now that we can’t run high level epics?
Why don’t you run smaller trials of these events so that players can get used to the hostiles/armadas and you can collect the data to work out realistic point goals based on what live accounts can achieve. Bugs like armada spawns would then not be a major problem as they can be fixed before the full run.
This flashpoint event is wildly optimistic and will just kill player engagement due to the difficulty and grind.
just wondering where the 50s epic are for his flashpoint event ... rares are there ... only epics i see atm are 45 ... come on get your act together scopley .. not everything revolves around you 🙄
<@&509690795536941056> Given that no server is anywhere near completing IMS stage 3 and that is only a day and a half left, can we at least get an extension due to the debacle with the rare armadas? Some rare AND epic directives would help as well.
Otherwise its unlikely any server will be touching stage 4, never mind the gold rush.
Scopely doesn't work on the weekends unless their store is broken. Asking for stuff before the event is over isn't going to go very far. Given they intend this to run for 6 months, they probably think they got a lot of runway to tweak the numbers as it goes on
<@&509690795536941056> Nice that the Vanguard/Honorguard problem has been fixed. But since players could not do Vanguards for almost a day and now that there are effevtivly no more Honorguard... HOW ABOUT ADJUSTING MILESTONES or prolonging the event?
I think either change the points for rare and epic to a much more bigger, or reduce the points needed to finish the stage is warranted, With the kind of mess that happens, there's no way to finish the stage 3 for most of the servers, if not all.
<@&509690795536941056> the fact that the invading entities have been so broken, the developers need to auto complete the IMS stage 3 for all of the servers as well as as any players stuck on stage 3 of the SMS because either we couldn't kill epics, or we couldn't kill rare.
It's also absolutely ridiculous that they couldn't fix them throughout this week and that they're not being touched until the "next run."
Please tell the testing teams and the programmers to do better next time. This is completely ridiculous
that is completely unacceptable, and no, I'm not buying any directives because you don't deserve money for this technical garbage heap you dumped on us as well as ridiculous milestones that we have to obtain. The management of this company needs to take their head out of someplace dark and start listening to the player base
IMS Stage 3 milestones, for invading entities, are WAY over tuned. Almost 12k points needed. And after ~12-15 hours of being open, only 290 points scored on my server? And 1 day and a few hours left? Yikes...
As part of this, only epics were spawning, but epic directives are near non-existent from the pulls. Now only rares are spawning, but those only score a single point. So really everything about this event is just cruddy. This makes the whole series just incredibly disheartening, and not looking forward to future iterations. Especially with how much you've harped on the future depending on this sort of server progress.
Milestones should have been severely reduced, and/or increased directive soucing, and/or add scaling for level of entities so higher ops and those punching higher could contribute more. Those are just a few ideas that could have made this much more achievable.
Alternatively... just come out and set some expectations. If you're not actually intending servers to "win" this current invasion and complete all stages, say as much. Otherwise only conclusion is you're wanting to severely and unfairly monetize this by forcing directive packs to win the IMS
The armada ims event requires 13,530 points to finish. At 1 point per armada and we have around 10 starts each, this amounts to requiring 1350 players on the server running (and beating) 10 armadas each.
I don’t think the spenders are going to make up the difference.
Besides some players may have already done them before the stage 3 IMS was available.
This event series is really poorly tuned.
So... did yall ever test the armadas or the hostiles? Completely overpowered.... plus where are epics now? yall delete them when u finally went to "fix" the rare spawns?
G6 players here, who hasn't bothered to log in to the current hot mess for 2 days (and is feeling pretty smug/vindicated reading the comments here).
Just a thought Scopely, if only G6 materials are going to count for G6 players in future SLB events, how about all events and dailies pay out ops relevant rewards? No more 3/4/5 star in CoW, Faction Hunt etc for G6 players.
Alternatively, just close the game down, you are obviously incapable of fixing anything, either by design or choice!
Why is it completly unacceptable that we might not finish the event? I think no server will go into Stage 4. Whats the point of just skipping stage3? If they want to repeat that stuff for the next 6 month there will be mechanics to make it easier. The outrage is just strange. Just accept stage 2 is all we can do in the first run and move on with your life. They can see the data themselfs and know if it was intended this way or if it was overtuned. The expectation that you have to always finish every ims/sms is crazy.
Because if you don't complete the IMS stage 3, you get the bad ending and get blocked from mining in those systems until the next event... which means you run out and can't use your refinery. So since there's technical issues with servers being able to complete stage three, they should auto complete it for us because the invading entities are broken
Wait what this thing also will block the normal refinery progress? That's a big fat fail if designed like that and will make even more people leave
If you look at the meta if you succeed at the IMS, it says that mining is once again available which hints if you fail, you won't be able to mine, and if you can't mine, you can't refine. Look here: #🏆-event-chat message
Think of the time it will save you not having to do 3 different mining runs and hostile grinding.
Maybe have even systems suliban transports and rare armadas(flash) ,hurak ,
Odd numbered systems, runners, and epic armadas odd hurak. And we might have playable 6 months
Why even bother having odd numbered hostiles with only even existing currently.
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@full swan
So generally spend events include new officers....scopely "no we're changing that without any notice"
Spend events include all grade materials and players save...as you've said before to plan and strategise... Scopely "no we're changing that without any notice"
Scopely "we're introducing great QoL improvements....along with some huge massive grinds to basically make the QoL improvements pointless anyway"
Scopely "we're going to re-introduce the engage events but make it another HUGE grind on top of the HUGE grinds we introduced last arc and this 1....oh and we're not going to say anything about the content so you might save the directives needed (borg type, polygons, krenim, etc...) and no we won't give you more either"
It honestly beggars belief that these ideas are thought up by anyone that actually plays this game...the finance department have definitely been involved more recently
But hey it doesn't matter because they added little icons to hunters in systems and fixed a few bugs they created!!!
👏 well done Scopely 👏
It became clear last month that $copely's event designers are de-mented. This month is worse. They clearly do not actually play the game.
team up with at least one player with the power to do so, and have them help you complete the number required
#🛠-known-issues message
Low to mid 40s need to get a comp chest of epic directives so we can actually try to contribute to the IMS and maybe finish our SMS.
you wont even scratch them so its a waste of time
How do I do that when only 1 ship is allowed in the armada?
I'm Level 46 and have the same problem. My Ships are not strong enough to kill one of this new entities. There strengt is insane. I will spare the directives till they correct the strength.
Our server hasn't reached stage 1, guess what that could teach you. But is Scopely able to learn 🤔, I guess not...
I'd rather try 500k power epics than the 900k rares that are the lowest available to me.
@full swan you add a spending event and then g5 does not count? G4/5/6 have always counted for those events. And now this? The bare minimum should have been telling us this in the announcement
That math ain’t mathin
13,530 points, each player with 10 directives, and each player would complete 10. 13,530/10=1,353 players are needed to spend 10 directives each to beat that event
That's only assuming the rares as the epic are 4 points each. Epics do exist, but they are only in the level 46 system. So you could complete it but you'll get crappy loot from each 46 epic
looks like we are back to an F for communication 🤨
you should have 5 seats, get others of similar power to join - just like any other armada..
<@&509690795536941056> When can we expect a "regular" spend event?
Nope... Not according to event schedule. And this is annoying. I am ops62. This event requires to spend only G6 while competing against ops65+ players. There is not a single chance for me..
<@&509690795536941056> well, the rare Hurak Vanguard spawn nicely, but now the Epic ones don't spawn. Is this known?
@full swan my grade for this arc is sitting pretty solid at a D- definitely work to be do
Literally in #🛠-known-issues
#🛠-known-issues message
This IMS just shows how out of touch some of the dev team is with the community. And it also proves these chuckleheads don't even play the game. If they did they would never put these server requirements so freaking high
Max fortification, Cerritos and Defiant. Zero chance of doing the SMS since all we have are epics.
Sorry, didn't see that one. I need more coffee before posting I guess.
So, we sit on our epic directives until next month. Got it
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I wonder what level of IQ you need to have to guess to make an IMS, the result of which depends on luck?
How can you score if you may or may not get entity directives?
Feedback on Flashpoint and Makaala Events in STFC
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Good Concept, Poor Execution:
The Flashpoint event aims to promote server-wide cooperation, but Phase 3 relies on solo armadas. This contradicts the cooperative spirit since only individual actions count, and many players run out of attempts quickly, losing the ability to contribute. -
Poor Balancing:
The difficulty of the stations forces many players to attack targets far below their level just to have a chance at success.
Non-paying players are quickly sidelined, which leads to frustration and reduces motivation.
- Lack of Event Integration:
The concurrently running Makaala event was a perfect opportunity to reward Armada Directives as incentives.
These rewards should only be released at the start of the Armada phase to prevent players from spending them prematurely.
- Suggestions for Improvement:
Better link rewards and event phases to create stronger incentives for active participation and teamwork.
Include Armada Directives as rewards in events like Makaala, with timed release aligned to the Armada phase.
Adjust station difficulty and point allocation so that all players, regardless of spending, can meaningfully contribute.
Conclusion:
Great event ideas are undermined by poor balancing and missing synergies. Better reward integration, stronger participation incentives, and fairer balancing would make the events much more enjoyable and engaging for the entire player base.
Doing Solos in a cooperative Event-Arc is just a joke. Do Better!
Seriously? No officer slb/sms? You guys are really chuckleheads
What scopes thinks is fun and engaging……
Okay. Let's accept they are developers who struggle. But for God's sake... This epic or rare armada spawn is not a new problem. We saw exactly this problem with krenim solos.... Why don't you learn from your problems, dear developers?
Honestly you're off on a few things.
First, they gave us free directives and the ability to do loot pulls for the armadas on the first day. Since there's a 22 hour cool down on pulls this gives people the opportunity to do pulls every day on both the epic and rare loot pulls
Second they gave the ability to get more free directives every day. All you have to do is kill the Dropships for the loot for that loot pull. The first day I pulled 400 rare directives. The second day I pulled 500 rare and 400 epic directives. This is far more generous than the only other Invasion where you typically only get half the directives for a single armada every day.
I'm more concerned about the Boldly Go 5 day task event. That entire thing is nothing more than a money grab. By making the final reward so difficult to achieve, as well as having such poor rewards if you do achieve it as the rewards themselves are great, it's the amounts that are disappointing. Perhaps an extremely small amount of a servers' population will unlock the final reward without spending money. This causes free to play players to feel like they failed, which over time will cause an Exodus from the game
These events are ridiculous. I just reached stage 3, expecting that since I tried (and won) some rares yesterday, they would still count towards this. but noooooooooo
so are you guys going to auto-complete stage 3 for all servers to leave enough time to complete stage 4?
They are not
This entire event series, nothing has carried over.
well then they might as well not run this again. the arc designer should take it back to the drawing board because it's a hot pile of garbage. also, the fact that "technical limitations," to no fault of the player base i might add, prevents us from completing the event without sacrificing huge amounts of loot for exchanges. g6 players cannot pull the chests with level 46 income.
disappointing to say the least. far from surprising though.
Completed Crucible event earlier today without spending...
Stuck on stage 3 of SMS due to lack of directives... No chance to grind enough hostiles to pull more than one chest a day... In fact the entire grind of Stage 1&2 allowed me to pull 1 chest. This is the poor balancing others have talked about
Your mileage is different to others...
Honestly, it's fairly ops dependant, and on research as well as your ship and tier.
For instance, I'm ops 60, have a maxed Enterprise D, and all of my research is completed. I'm able to grind the 56-58 system Tiefurt easily. Did my third pull of the House Hurak Target Tag Exchange pull, all max pulls, today.
I'm not flexing, I'm giving perspective.
Also, I've pulled the final reward in the Boldly Go 5 Day Task series, and I haven't spent any money
I spent too many hours grinding the 60 system to complete Stage 1&2... Gave me 1 pull of Tags... Yeah it's ops dependant... 60 seems easy
I was done on day 3 and just waited to claim days 4 and 5. borg polygon was just a little bit coordinating with others to fill up and get most out of it.
No dime spent there
I didn't mention that I grinded that system no less than 4 hours every day
Honestly you’re off on a few things, makala is 7 days not 5. You have just been lucky in your pulls, I have done 3 triple pulls and got 400 rare directives, so the whole Flashpoint event is a joke.
First, no doubt there is luck involved with the pulls. My point was that the results are far better than Sarris Invasion where you typically get enough directives for half an armada each day. That doesn't happen with this event.
Second, there are 5 days worth of tasks listed. It's even labeled Day 1, Day 2, and so on. So my descriptor is accurate
lol that’s just crazy talk! No one should have done them till IMS3 / SMS appeared
I did as soon as I could as the loot pulls were more important to me than hoping my server could progress the IMS
Every server event most servers don't complete it because they but them so high. So why haven't they learned. Whales!!!! Because like the armada one they make it hard to get them so whales buy packs to complete them. If there were no pack almost all severs will fail
They should have co-termed the damage Event with phase 3, so Nobody would be tempted
Look at the numbers. No server will complete phase 3 if they don’t change the scoring - again 😂
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<@&509690795536941056> What happened to the quantity over quality. Every arc is getting more and more and longer grind time
I’m so sorry!! I did not mean to reply to yours!! Will delete the post.
I deleted as well
So guess this gold Rush event we get next arc, or just never existed? Or exists only if a task which cannot be completed is completed?
The question is if they care since they were warned about this ahead of time
it was stage 4 of SMS apparently
This is misleading. It makes you think you can turn in stuff in the refinery for them not every 5 building upgrades.
So has there been anything set in stone about not completing stage 3, stage 4 doesn't even start? I found no rare honor guard until this morning and used all directives I had gotten and still 3 kills short of completing the stage. I'll have a double pull of the chests tomorrow morning to try to get 300 more directives but even with Scope's 75% at some, at least one of those chests, if not both, will have none.
I don't know why people thinking having an event that needs to be finished to start another event but is wholly dependent on RNG to complete was a smart thing at all.
It's almost like the people that designed it don't play the game. Oh wait...
<@&509690795536941056> - Given that an Ops60 and Ops59 player likely have the same or similar level miners, why does the Invasion SMS Stage 4 have milestones approx 8x higher for the Ops60?
there is a regular claim in the refinery, but it only becomes available once the building is at a certain level(45 i think)
I am at 8 have a long way to go there
I'm Ops 60 not maxed and have grind at most two hours each day in the same system. All max pulls
I'm also doing what I am to remain in 1st place in the SLB
It's actually not misleading because once your building is high enough level, you get a daily claim for those. Your building is probably not high enough level to where you have unlocked your daily claim.
Next time you do a Season Pass event could you please not have it depending on a once a week event where people can attack you screwing you out of any rewards? (Seriously why is it depending on the Takeover event that ONLY happens on Sunday)
You got super lucky on your directives. Most people including myself got absolutely zero epic directives. To call this loot pull "generous" is hilarious. Also while you're correct that the Mak'ala Crucible is in fact a money grab, you can complete the Crucible event without spending.
Is there only 1 level on the Heroic SMS?
So disappointed this is bull. Completed events no rewards 🤨
did you actually score in the event, or only leech off the efforts from the rest of the server?
Obviously you need that "facepalm" you gave my comment. Maybe that will smack some literacy into you
I said "there is obviously luck involved" in the pulls for directives. My point was that for me, and what I've heard from others, is that it's much better than the other Invasion Event we have.
Also, I did not say that spending money is required to complete the Crucible.
What I did say is that I completed it without spending any money. I also said that a very small percentage of players will also be able to complete it. One of the reasons I was able to complete it is because of a Prime I got previously which gives a daily drop of Solo Wave Defence directives as well as Borg Polygon Directives. Without those 2 sets of directives I would probably not have been able to claim the final reward.
As far as the epic directives goes, they are absolutely worthless to me this event cycle as when Scopely fixes the rare armada respawns they killed the Epic armadas until the next event, the exception being level 45 epics which are pointless for me to run as they don't give enough loot for me to reward pulls.
Lastly, "most people" getting no epic directives is patently false. I've talked to many people who've done pulls from the Target Tag loot pull for several days and almost all got some epic directives in varying amounts.
Be careful if your wording in making replies as it sets the tone for any responses
So epic hurak armadas won't appear?
I actually did the events 😡
can you share a screenshot of your score in the flashpoint sms events?
IMS events, like Alliance ones, require participation to earn the rewards. So go out and kill one of the targets and score pts even if it's "done."
You're not alone, one of my alliance members has a ticket in for the same reason
that's the ims.
i ask for the sms, because those show your own personal contributions to the event.
the IMS in your screenshots shows the contributions of everyone in the server.
Those had my name on them?
Why for the ticket events do we have the help event repeated? Its already been run in this time around
yea again another horrible launch for an arc event. you should just fire everyone and start over. been over a year since you've launched an event without an issue
in the event name it says IMS.
that means "Instance MileStone".
there are also versions of these events that say SMS, meaning "Solo MileStone".
Instance milstone events add up the scores from every player on your server, you can see the progress of the entire server but you only get the rewards if you scored at least 1 point yourself.
SMS events only count your score, so there you can see if you actually did the actions that score points in both events.
so check your progress in the phase 1 SMS, if it's still at 0 you need to kill one of the event hostiles to score in the sms and receive rewards from IMS phase 1 and 2.
With this update, players will be set for the Fueling the Fire SMS, which has been updated to match the new G4 refinery payouts.
You guys do realize there's only so many things to spend G4 on right?
Tripling refinery output had zero impact on the game last time, idk why you think adding 4 more chests is going to do anything else.
Here is my honest feedback on the current arc. I understand you wanted to make this event stronger, but with the drop ships being so strong, you basically left a lot of loyal players out. You have no mechanism for a player below 50 to really make a difference for their server or even compete. No mechanism in place in the event to even get better. It comes off as a cash grab and not about making the game better. More people on my server are just sitting this one out, and it’s too bad because there was some genuine excitement until it dropped. You said you wanted to bring servers together to work together, then cut off 75% of the server from actually participating at all. I came back to the game after being away for 8 months and I am now questioning if that was a good idea.
Crucible rewards in terms of officer drop chance / number felt underwhelming for the effort involved
This whole new thing is complete 💩. The stats don't lie. Only about 20% have completed this Flash Point garbage.
Hardly anyone's doing this new 💩, and good, as this isn't what we asked for or want. We didn't ask for more loops to complete and currency that gets more and more confusing. We want less of that 💩 and fixes to the many bugs we report every day on. The new management doesn't even pretend to care about what players want. They just shove this over the top, mostly pay to play 🗑️ down our throats and expect us to just adapt and continue.
No. I'm not going to keep continuing to do more and more 💩 in this game while also getting frustrated with all the bugs, each time I have to restart the game because of things like, "Check your connection and try again," when navigating MU or getting stuck on the black screen for various things.
They have made this into a full-time job that many here pay Scopely to play, when it should be the other way around.
Take this as an example... I'm ops 50, the only buildings I have left are the last dock and defense platform, and even at 49 there were basically no buildings that used anything above common. The ONLY thing I can spend 98,500 rare on is ships and there's just not enough rare ship parts to spend that much G4 especially with all the material efficiency in the game these days. Even if I ops up, it wouldn't help for this event. You guys are really not doing anything for your reputation of being out of touch and not knowing how the game actually plays. G4 spend events have actually made me regret getting so much material efficiency which is just insane, the last thing you should want is for someone to regret getting something.
It gets even worse in the 60s, as you start over with speed ups and materials. I'm 62 and have the materials, but not the speedups. And, if you want to use lat, it's like a ridiculously insane amount. You easily go through millions of lat upgrading one building.
Scopely is very stingy with speedups after 60, as they count on people spending the big bucks to get what they got for free in the previous ops.
I'm 3rd in Cosmic Choice SLB and almost completed the heroic SMS and I am still only halfway to finishing these Makala's spend G4 tasks. It's absurd. I'd throw mats into an incinerator if I could, they're worthless.
I think when you look at the completion stats for the IMS (last check very few about goal 1 of IMS level 3), it says it all. 100% missed the mark on something which could have actually been fun.
Instead what we have is a predatory tactic to drain players of resources (of all types), directives (all types) and FT materials, in the vaguest hope that people will spend more money to libe someone's pockets. Completion rates show your player base has had enough. You have a particularly stingy payout for new directives, with seriously unobtainable goals. Simultaneously, you have exponentially increased the grind factor of this game by a factor of (what feels like) 100.
I remember when freebooters came to be, or when the archives was created. But you have replaced what was taken away with so many more tasks. This IS NOT a full time job scopely. I am active, but it feels like there is not enough time in the day to complete.
And what to do we have next week..... even more super grind week long goals designed to bleed either resources from us, or money from our wallets (when the world is a very expensive place). You use FOMO the drive purchases which could potentially be putting people into debt, or struggle to pay for important things.
Overall feedback, you should be fully ashamed of yourselves scopely. Sub par toxic structure, which drives perverse behaviour, and preys on people's want to succeed.
Rant over
Anyone else finding these dropship hostiles as difficult to hit as the augment exile? My tier 7 Minerva can get one level 60 and my ops is currently 66. And this is with good forbidden tech and chaos Tech on board. I’ve tried multiple crews. Scopely really screwed this up just like they did the augment exile.
Considering my ops level, my scoring is absolute crap compared to what I need to get to complete even one stage of the multi stage SMS
The catering to the Almighty spender has become ridiculous
Agreed, Scopely has created an environment where if you aren't playing all day you may as well not bother. There's no way to just back off and spend a bit less time, you may as well just not play since you'll get the same rewards for spending 20 minutes as 2 hours. Gotta spend 10 hours to actually get something.
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Rewards in this event is ridiculously low for players with Syndicate level 55 and higher.
What I mean is getting ⅔ of daily pull for two day huge effort required for 1st spot in event is a no no.
It's good to see people getting it and not trying to defend this nonsense from Scopely, which is enraging in itself when I see that.
No one should feel that they need to spend 10 hours a day on a game just to complete everything.
With the lag and all, it takes me an hour every day just to open all my chests, when I usually find one thing is short, so I then have to go out and hit some reds somewhere.
As Doom stated, they gave us Freebooters to reduce the grind, yet we are doing much, much more than before the Freebooters.
And, to make matters worse, at ops 61, hitting FKR reds 61 and up don't count towards Freebooters, and there are Hazard reds too, so triple the work of an ops 60 or below.
That's their reward for making it that far, along with stingy speedups.
Granted, you can do Hazards in FKR space and get them done with the FKRs, but that's beside the point.
Each month gets more ridiculous with the amount of grinding we all have to do, all for small rewards and a confusing loop.
@full swan I've tried for 5 days and frankly, I'm over it. If you've made a gameplay so complex that after watching videos from 3 content creators I still don't get it, you fouled it up. I'm doing my dailies and Battlepass events, the rest is going to pot until this Flashpoint garbage is over.
No server has completed stage 3 of the IMS, and they probably won't, which should be a good signal to Scopely/Digit that they completely messed up the event.
Causes:
- Broken invading entities not spawning correctly
- Unrealistic milestones/scoring in almost all of the events
- Players not understanding that the IMS is important, and it has to be completed above all else. This is also the fault of the developers for not properly communicating this to the player base. This caused players to mostly follow their sms and slb above the IMS.
- Improper beta testing, improper QA, and improper bug fixing. **Balancing and bugs were CLEARLY not properly tested. **
Top server: Tucker (217.93 pts). Updated: Sun Jul 13 2025 20:33:12 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time).
I'd add to this as one of server 134, we also got merged literally a week ago so activity is high, and we still only on checkpoint 1 of ims 3
Scoring is wrong supposed to be 2pts not 1
It's only supposed to be two points for the regular hostiles – not the invading entities. Originally the hostiles were one point, and then they changed them to two.
The rare invading entities (Armada) are one point for rare, and four points for epic. This has always been the case, and it hasn't changed
Vibe check
Which server was this calibrated for? Is this anyone’s idea of fun?
how is this right, guess you want your game to fail
The scoring for this weekends officer SLBs is unacceptable. No longer allowing us to use mats from previous generations is a shockingly terrible decision. Who would think this would be welcomed????
No, they want more people to buy frustration packs.
As of right now, server 134 is #1 in the world for the Flashpoint arc. I doubt anyone will get to checkpoint 3 of IMS 3.
🤔 maybe they just want all the F2P players to quit, and merge the whales onto one server
In phase 1 SMS is impossible ships are to strong they start at LV 40. I am Lv 43 and I can’t destroy them!
technically it's possible(an ops40 alliance member can get a kill using enterprise), but at low G4 it is indeed difficult.
I just used a maxed out NCC 1701 Enterprise got destroyed
When are they going to come out with enjoyment packs? There’s a novel idea.
Day after the rapture
Ooopsie, 100k€ of targeted cash inflow will stay on paper 😅
So. This arc is trash.
This current run of the Flashpoint Invasion Meta/SMS/IMS should have been labelled Heroic.
From both the SMS and the IMS only Stages 1 and 2 are feasible without dropping money, therefore Stages 3 and 4 are pure pay to play and should be labelled accordingly.
If the goal is to have most of the player base hate the event and the grind, congrats, you've accomplished it well. We have the first milestone of stage 3 done on IMS and probably everyone out of directives. Who thinks it's a good idea to make everything be a kick in the guts nowadays. I enjoyed 2 years without chasers and now everything has chasers again. Can you have your people play your game if you aren't gonna listen to feedback. Cause you ain't listening
you say that you want us to level up more quickly yet every month you release events that incentivize us to level up more slowly 🤔
Yes there is quite a bit that is objectively bad here in this arc.
My server (86) is fresh off a merge, very active, and working quite well together for the IMS events - we are one of the few who have even put a dent into the 3rd IMS event. But we won’t finish it bc it is clearly a mislabeled heroic event.
Miscellaneous other feedback - putting hazard AND chasers into systems where we’re expected to complete many many MANY armadas for an event is not ideal. It means draining resources (extra buffs, repairs etc) plus it takes so much longer, many extra trips, and throwing in chasers on top to waste the limited time we have in these systems is just a terrible idea imo.
You hit us with a grind heavy arc right before this, so now we have TWO grind heavy arcs to play catch up with every day, along with 3 new mining resources to deal with. It’s A LOT. People in my alliance ranging from ops 40-60+ are ready to quit.
Please try to remember, this is supposed to be FUN. Would you people making this content enjoy these things and want to open your wallet to pay for them? Try thinking of it from that angle when creating new content, not “how can we trick people into pouring money into this game”.
Consider this Flashpoint event a flop
Scopely being dumb again.
Thank you crazy to think it's 1 pt for an Amanda
or they incapable to estimate participation so just do a really hard trial run then make it easier next time once they know what the participation looks like, but I may just be overly optimistic.
BTW, early G6 is a really rough spot on this one. It's an insane amount of grind without being able to farm the 62 hostiles. Over 200 hostiles a day for a single-pull (2000 for a max pull!) is not where to set the balance.
Whaaaat? Why are mine 45.5k (80pts) and 91k (120pts) for the rare? I'm ops 41, can't get to that much to spend that on yet, nor do I have any way of getting that much rare mats.
If this is the case, WTH would want you play a part 2?
It has been VERY clear to me that since WoK parts 1&2, the current event designers do not play STFC at all. I see no reason to think those people had story in mind when doing up this Flashpoint junk.
Well Scopely I’ve been threatening to quit for a while now and you have finally beaten any interest in this game out of me. I work for literally years to be ready to go to ops 61. I have the Enterprise D only at tier 7 and the Rottaran and the D’Dedrix built and ready to go. But wait! There’s NO SPEND EVENT FOR THIS MONTHS OFFICER!
I would have likely been able to win this, for the last time ever as a light spender. And I can’t complete the SLB since there are no level 58 invaders and no epics below 60.
There is no excuse for this, a slight pack won’t do it, I was expecting a new epic officer @ level 2 this arc and now I can’t avenge finish the event. At least I’ll get a whole lot of my time back again.
so much grind. feels like this should be the last day of the battle pass
does anyone know how much the mystery purchase that you unlock from the store after getting scottys sigil is going to be?
I'd like to know who set this event up? The IMS 3rd stage that the server needs to finish is not atainable. Not to mention you screwed up the madas and there's no epics above 45. Im about done with this garbage. Please test your junk before putting it out there
@full swan Before you run through this Hurak invasion stuff again, the scoring needs to be balanced for the young G6 players. At level 62, I still only have access to epic G5 ships which is the same as a level 60 player, yet the Hurak targ tag exchange turn ins for the loot is 3mil for a triple pull for a level 60 player and almost 90 mil for a level 62 (9 million for a single pull). This needs to be adjusted to be the same until players can get an uncommon G6 ships at OPS 63 as research can’t overcome that kind of deficit.
600 hostile grind
Days of mining
20 FKR armadas and directives
15 Borg Polygons
15 Krenim Formation
25 Borg Typ 3 solo armadas
25 Krenim Invading Entities
30 SOLO waves
All those directives and time spent for the “honor” of spending $99 for SNW Scotty. The audacity. I’m having a hard time justifying spending any more money and playing a game where players are disrespected to this degree. I understand a business making money, but this is beyond making money in a legitimate and fair manner.
Just be happy we get another go at the IMS on the 17th 🙃
hard pass
You missed "and chasers in token space" where just a bit of lag wastes your token..."tokens without real sourcing" as of yet...
just like the last arc event, this whole thing has been a swing and a miss. guess scopely doesnt learn from past mistakes
Prediction: In the coming months, Scopely will release content (ship, primes, FT/CT, artifacts, etc.) that will greatly reduce the negative aspects Flashpoint. There will be PLENTY of players that will give Scopely money for such content. And in doing so, justify Scopley’s tactics.
Nothing will change until the players stop feeding the monster.
This is insane. I know I’m late to the party but I’ve been on vacation. The grind this month throws out all the improvements to previous grinds you all finally fixed. Aside from doing normal grind that is already a lot, the flashpoint stuff is insane and the new loop is just WAY to complicated and convoluted. And another 5* vs 6* like silent where even with my t10 Minerva at ops 65 I can’t get the 6* rare. It’s getting to not be worth the aggravation. And next month you’ll release a ship, or maybe we should expect 2. One for mining and another for the hostiles. And don’t get me started on your heroic spend this weekend. Just awful. I don’t want these khan tokens, I want the new officers. At my level I never rank on the slb bc I’m up against the big spenders, I’m firmly in the top 20 and I’m not even past level 3 of the sms. That should tell you something coming from an active server with a lot of g6 players.
So the entity event ends in the morning. I have the EPIC directives to have finished it hours ago and moved to the mining. And we go from no rares to no epics. This is the absolute worst failure I've seen in a while. I'm sure 2 officers shards and 30 pieces of latinum will be offered in compensation This is unacceptable and just keeps going down hill.
was the flashpoint event series purposely designed for failure?
looking at the scoring required and directives available, every single player on the server had to have used up the invading entity directives they've been getting.
not just the ops50+ who have the ships to do that, or the ops40+ that have the event, but all the way to the ops1's that quit the game right after they started!
are you sure the vanguards aren't supposed to give 10 points, and the honorguards 40?
we'd still likely end up falling, but at least we'd have a score that is more than a rounding error away from 0.
also, quite a waste to design missions for this arc and then give us no way to complete them.
ULTRA Grindy. put up with all that and they break it so even if you do it all. Even if you can finish. They break it not once but twice in two days making it impossible to finish without spending. I spend a lot but That's coming to an end if scopely doesn't get their act together, I do not pay to be angry. This series of events is supposed to last for SIX months. Do they test anything at all before dumping it on us?
€100 for up to 67 points in the IMS.
€20000 to actually complete it.
and that's only for the "bonus value" option.
I'm trying to provide a true, unbiased analysis. The events are impossible for most people because they can't spend every hour of everyday grinding this new grind(s) with the old grinds. Most more aggressively growing players are likely like me, 1-2hrs a day doing grinds and simply taking some time to have fun. If a player wanted to complete these events they'd need to add hours to their daily play, which simply isnt possible for most players that have jobs, in addition these events that require limited resources NEED to have advance warning because most players, aren't simply stockpiling solo Krenim directives for 25 days in a row for an event they dont know is coming. Same for the Borg Polygon armadas, my extremely large Alliance had issues doing it because nobody could run more than 5 each during the event, most people didnt have ALL their directives, because once again most people dont save them forever. So at least 5 members with fully saved directives would need to all be on at thr same time and join all if the armadas, literally hours of armadas. The solo Q-continium armadas could ruin someone's chance if they used all their directives recently. 30 solo waves for a lv45? Near impossible. First day of the new arc was a mining event that wasn't possible because the mining speeds were too slow, servers were overloaded, and everyone was fighting everyone. The servers having to work as a team? Not happening for almost any server simply because we're busy doing the other grinds. I can see the dream but the execution needed to be cleaner.
I just saw my message is disturbingly long 😱 anyway, maybe take a look and give scopely a tip: take an arc off, just lots of minor events and add quality of life improvements, such as repair #🛠-known-issues , and add easier claims, faster loading times, and things like Bulk Research.
@zenith wing Ive seen mods get pinged a lot but I dont think theyre the right ones to ping for this. Who should I ping
most pings on this discord are unnecessary & I would say nobody tbh.
ping mods if, like, there's a spambot or something else egregious, or if on an issue like the recent missing battle pass one that you've been told to. maybe if like 50 people have reported the same new issue in the past hour & nobody's commented on it.
ping the cm's maybe if there's a specific, urgent, new issue. otherwise, they'll read the feedback, ping or no ping.
I TRIED THIS NOBODY ANSWERED
Ty you're always helpful ☺️
IMS may be overly-optimistic for server 31. We also didn't get past stage 2 until late last night (much later than others I think).
it was for all server to optimistic...
best server have 20% done...
20%
Wow. Dopely 🤦♂️
its a impossible event should renamed in heroic or pay to play/win
How is Rev going to spin this positively? 😂
Where are the rare Hurak targets to be able to (try to) score for the event? I just found epics and have no directives. What does Scopely try to achieve ? Try to put some more frustration on top of the K2 of a already frustrating grind event?
lol , just don’t do it , easy ,I gave up ages ago , scopley have some major issues ATM
scoplay has reset now we have only rare...
Our server did not even clear the 1st milestone on stage 3 lol
my feedback on that .. thing. 0 score, not even opened to learn how to do
Officer drop rates in the Makala rewards are super bad. There really is nothing good to say about this month.
At the low half of G4, G5, G6 current events are impossible to participate in unless you are a whale. At the high half you need to have stockpiled a lot and invest 12 hours playtime per day.. Why do you guys hate your players?
Gangster
I know its getting boring but SCOPLEY! you miss chances to earn lots of money, if you keep making brackets like that: SURPRISE the top9 ist OPS 70. Do you think any 66-68 can compete with that? do you think this motivates players? <@&509691205798592532> can you help push this ongoing topic please?
lets imagine I could kill 66 (I cannot!) that would be another 1000 kills of 66 hostile to get another 4.1 m points to reach second place itm (IN TOTAL 1410 hostiles)... do you see the flaw? its ubelievable you dont act on that by yourself -> as OPS 70 they kill 400 x 70 and have that points!
most of us can't kill the 70s just so you know, requires a max/near max g6 epic
Ops 69 here , not a chance hitting 70 s , good luck 🍀
well, in my bracket I have not 1-2 but 9 such 70s as you can see... so brackets are very much improper to motivate player community to compete against each other. thats like asking a bike to compete with a motorbike
Totally agree 👍, that’s why I’m not doing these events
oh I completely agree there, putting all of G6 in the same bracket has always been ridiculous, I suspect they're fully aware of this but maintain the status quo because it is yet another way of trying to persuade people to spend more
but it actually has a negative effect, spending a small amount to get past the guy who is close to you in score and level vs not bothing to spend anything becuase the spend required makes it stupid
4h20 remains and none of the 10 first server hit half of the 3st ims event
Are epic hurak broken i have been looking on and off all morning and nothing spawning
I can’t like most cant finish the armarda event
No one can. But guess what’s coming in the next bit of arc…..yours for only £100! (+ another £5/600 if you are above ops 52 to make it actually useful)
<@&509690795536941056> Please bringt back the old system for scoring AND either add the new officers to the shop or switch back to new officer events all together.
Agree. I liked the crucible event but the reward pulls were not great. I got 5 officer shards total….
new mastery artifact rewards are wild, glad I farmed a load of transogen ore to unlock that!
standard Scopely, dangle a carrot but when you arrive to receive said carrot you realise it was actually a giant 💩 painted orange
what a lemon ... lol
I'm fully expecting it to go from 18 to 20 when I get it to level 2 in like a weeks time
Don’t spend it all at once.
Instead of us digging in our wallets to complete this ims literally no server is going to finish its time ya dig in your compensation bag and really hook up all players of this game who've spent the last few days playing ridiculous hours trying to get this event done only to get shot in the foot.
We should at least get one of the new officers completely for free. Time is money and if I could charge you a wage for how much time I put in just doing the crucible and sms the bill would be more than you'd charge me for the epic officer
<@&509690795536941056> server 704 doesn't have nearly enough players ops 45 and over that are strong enough to defeat the Hurak Vanguard Rares. Perhaps 50 players are able, but honestly I think it's closer to 25.
Older servers have more players that are in the higher ops ranges and have had the time and resources to make themselves strong. Just being ops 55 does not mean you're strong, it takes ships, faction ships, appropriate for their ops level to be tiered up as high as possible. The majority of our players is free to play, and the majority of our strong free to play players are around ops 42-44 and even they aren't strong enough to take out these Hurak Vanguard Rares.
So, by making the thresholds for these events so high you've inadvertently made the vast majority of our players to feel like they failed.
Thanks for that
thanks Scopely 😡! You removed the epic armadas now I can't close the event!!! thanks, very cool idea
Hence the reason I don't even bother. Along with me in the lower 50s being in the same bracket with 60s. Makes no sense to even try
Woah man, you got too close to actually finishing the evnt, they had to stop you before you became a tyrant. For only $99.99 you can purchase the Tyrant Pack which makes the Epics reappear!
As I predicted yesterday. Needed 300 directives to finish the stage 3 event and only got 200. So ends my participation in the Flashpoint. Maybe I'll mine some Transogen from time to time when bored after any other daily is done but I'm out. If there's another, going to be a skip for me.
Finishing that crucible for some event store currency and a handful of Scotty shards was good slap in the face to everyone. Not sure how much more blatant it could have been to put a package in the store that essentially bypassed the crucible and got you a Scotty full unlock. The insane and arbitrary amounts set for milestones, personal fave being the waves where you needed 40 waves defeated, each defense has 3 waves so Scope forcing you to do 1 extra defense for 1 wave. The chaining of events so if you don't complete one, the next doesn't start and not finishing an event solely based on RNG. Bravo.
I really think you guys need to lower the threshholds for completing these new events in the future...We have lots of stuff to work on, and you expect us to grind hours daily. Just a suggestion...I see this new stuff going the way of the doomsday worms
HATE the concept of a weekend spend event that does not accept prior generation materials.
Players should allow to use all those mats for a SMS and/or SLB.
MUST be changed for next weekend
Or Carmadas. Or Silent Enemies. Or data mining. Or Swarms.
<@&509690795536941056>
So, how many servers managed to complete at least Stage 3 of the IMS?
0?
Brilliant. Just Brilliant!
My server
According to the stfc.pro none of the servers could even come close.
Figured that was going to be the case. Can assume that any future Flashpoint will have less than 10% player participation after this. It just was not worth it. Best thing from it is to just mine transogen and upgrade the forge for the random and unrelated to mining transogen buffs it provides
For what? The same junk rewards from the same grinds? Pass.
Goodluck Scopely in getting any servers to work on completing this laggy and bug riddled arc. You have officially lost alot of trust with players
Garbage “invading entities” with a totally messed up spawn rate. I did 11 rares in W’jeff system and ZERO epics spawned. Wtf.
at least your server completed 1 milestone
This is a stretch, but I think you guys intentionally prevented every server from completing these IMS' because you actually didn't have this special 'store' set up
Can anyone tell me where the sulban runners are for Flashpoint event
I have been pulling the targ tag exchange everyday and I have not gotten any epic directives. How were we supposed to do this event when I been only getting rares?
spend tons of money, of course! This game has felt so increasingly hostile towards the players the last couple of arcs, which in turn makes me spend less than ever.
I know the 68 system has them, try 58 if you're not G6
It has. And shown with the spend event not letting use of previous gen materials to score
you leave the refinery open but disable the hostiles. This gets better and better. <@&509690795536941056>
So... It looks like on the event reset, Token Space Miners patrols have respawned... And it wiped out my ship. Not super cool.
Good job, great effort everyone. Not even one server finished 25% of Stage 3. Congrats!
Not even money could help to pass the event
Congrats Scope!
SLB with alliances?
Shouldnt that be a ALB ?
<@&509690795536941056> Scopley, I like the Flashpoint idea....but this one is a miss due to scoring issues. I honestly took a look at the events on Saturday, looked at the map, checked the systems, did the math.....and then completely gave up on doing it as I deemed it mathematically impossible for myself to complete. But overall......I like the idea
i like the idea as well, but.. our server has never been able to complete Sarris IMS. It would be super nice if they scaled it to server population
They can't. By now we all know, that nobody at $copely has the slightest clue of mathematics. 😉😂
They could have left the hostiles up for another day.
More events that are impossible to finish
Why? I mine in Transogen Token 5M common in just 3 hrs. That's 6 hours of mining 🤷♂️