💬-events-feedback

[vagrant topaz]

Thanks for the fun Q event. It was easy and fast. Good rewards, relatively simple what more do you want.

[hasty void]

hey <@&509690795536941056> i think there is a bug with the turkey ALB

this is so true, if i had know rank 1 of the second tier wouuld pay out better then the premier t2 i would have tossed the round to be demoted

[errant belfry]

It's very simple IF AND ONLY IF you're at a level where you have already completed at least one of the tiers and have the ability to go beat up on those hostiles again. If you're lower level and can't finish the tier you can repeat any of them and can't participate in this event. So what some players want is the ability to actually do the event.

[void egret]

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[thorn harbor]

SCOPELY! are you gonna give us a decent way to source subspace relays now, theres NO subspace relays rewarded in ANY of the Incursion leaderboards anymore, so the sourcing is completely nerfed now
I could get about a max of roughly 30k per incursion before
now If I use all the Incursion currency I got from the event I can get about 8k and thats at the exclusion of getting anything else and thats with winning all 3 leaderboards, not happy!

[floral folio]

Thank you for listening and adding trial bells. Now we (as stated above) need something so players who cannot beat a q trial chain can finish the event. 15 locks out a lot of the player base in our alliance.

[crystal tree]

@near saddle @full swan I put in a ticket. I saw where this has been added back in the past, it needs to be added again for low players. The hostiles option should always be available. I have no ships over 500k and yet my lowest option is 1mil. (Yes, I know with crew and stuff I can maybe punch up once or twice, but not 15 times!)

[rose ice]

I'm a mid-20's player. I was able to finish 10 trials today, but no way can I do all 15. I have remaining a 1.5Mil Battleship, a 1.7M explorer, and a 2.0M Interceptor. And my strongest ships are around 500-600k

It's unattainable for me

I understand higher lvl players were able to go back and complete trials that they had already finished. But that option wasn't available for me

😦

[hasty void]

this event wasnt thought out for anyone sub 35 ops really

[frank wing]

Does anyone have the capability to win 15 Q battles? If I could I would have before this event

[warm torrent]

I've seen a few other people mention they're missing turkey bowl ALBs, has anyone had this fixed?

[molten marlin]

did they participate in the ship xp and armada damage albs?

[warm torrent]

some have some haven't

[opaque hawk]

thanksgiving weekend, doubt we get a response before event is over. half our alliance isnt able to compete today

[fallow hemlock]

So, I see I'm not the only one having issues completing 15 Kills in Q's trials. I keep mine up to date. I'm an ops lvl 30. I have the 2* started but I don't have the 1* completed. If I can complete 2 of the 15, I would be surprised.

[dawn sedge]

Fresh ops 26 here: same problem. I'm already as far as I can go, but too low level to have completed a pillar and redo earlier levels.

[dawn sedge]

Seems weird to have so much be accessible, and get us used to be all events like this be accessible, but just throw in one that, almost randomly, completely blocks out people who haven't been playing long/hard enough.

[tame terrace]

<@&509690795536941056> So nice of Scopely to plan a maintenance in the middle of incursions. How is that going to work? Everyone is going to have peace shields so no one’s going to be open for raiding? Or are they going to do a short term shield and we have to worry abt whatever shield we put up while we sleep getting messed up? What fun 🙄🙄🙄. Poor planning on Scopely’s part

[sharp thistle]

Dont forget if you are in EU servers, a lot of them will have incursions and areans going on together as well, great planning

[vagrant arrow]

I'd like to see the stats from Scopely on player activity level on a normal day versus on an incursions day. Our server was a ghost town during incursions. Seemed like most either just logged on in the morning to do the sms and the disappeared or took the whole day off.

Seems like incursions gets less activity every run so curious if that's just my server or across the board.

[fading basin]

I think it very stupid that people who miss one alliance event over cant continue to support their alliance. Ita a holiday period i missed one event in the turkey bowl now i don't get continue to help my alliance, which basically is the only reason i stick around here. I think thats very strange gameplay and timing over a holiday period sucks i think

[languid ice]

Is there any way you could extend the incursion store a few days? Could really use some extra time to exchange trophies, since they’re on a cooldown. Or, just remove the cooldowns for the trophy exchange. <@&509690795536941056>

[small rover]

Sooooooooooo.......... Are they gonna bring out an alternative way to complete today's Thanksgiving event or are we lower level players screwed for the full 4 events ?

Seriously, if we're able to see the event, don't ya think it makes sense that ya should be able to make it so that we can complete it? It's an Ops 20+ event, for crying out loud, and not a Heroic one.

As stated by various other people, if we lower Ops players are not able to kill anything in the Q's Trials to the point that we can do the repeat, (and assuming we've already gone as far as we can in any series of Trials) we're likely incapable of being able complete the event

[chrome void]

I've been talking with some members of my alliance and they can't score on either of the ALBs we're in which is effecting how it tallies the points

[turbid cloak]

@full swan thx for letting us know that players that couldn't do first rounds of Turkey Bowl ALB can't participate in later rounds. It is an alliance event not individual so all members should be able to participate in all rounds

[chrome void]

it gets better at least 1 member of my alliance did score on yesterdays Turkey Bowl ALBs and still can't participate

[pseudo sigil]

@full swan is that actually true? is an alliance event capped by progress of individual members rather than the alliance progress? if so, is this a bug or 'by design'?

[vale musk]

There are also players who have scored points in the previous events and still cannot take part in the current event.
So there is something wrong with the mechanics here!

[visual furnace]

Incursions needs work, it shouldn't be possible for a couple of people forgetting to shield/ intentionally not shielding to throw the event for the entire server.

Also can cheesing the PvP event be stopped. I'm sick of people turning up with Realtas and other G2 ships so they can score points. Points should be awarded for a loss ONLY if they're using appropriate ships

[hot solar]

New here 👋
Without having to read back through hundreds of posts, what's the score with the Turkey events? Are only previous alliance participants allowed to have moved forward through each ALB event? If so, that's a departure from the norm and wasn't clearly stated in the event details 🤔

[vagrant topaz]

It was just my personal feedback on the event. If others can't make it, I can understand that they are not satisfied with the event 🤷🏻‍♂️.

[radiant solstice]

<@&509690795536941056> I have the same problem as others have stated. Not seen R3 event and not seeing R4 ALB either. I can only guess it's because I wasn't able to contribute to the R2. If you're restricting events to those that participated in previous rounds, that's a bit harsh, isn't it? How is that helping alliances that want to drum up support amongst their members? We have leadership complaining that only a handful are contributing. Turns out it's Scopely's fault!

[sharp thistle]

Honestly impossible to know, scopely as usual have gone silent, a lot of people complaining they are missing events, some are saying if you didn't do anything in previous ones you don't get the next ones, others saying members did help in last ones but don't have new ones, so it's a cluster cluck as usual with scopely burying their heads in the sand

[hot solar]

You're my type of cynic and as usual, it's an omnishambles 🤣

[sharp thistle]

I like to be honest 😄 same as when they improved the match making twice for arenas, and it's still a load of rubbish for the most part, same as the new ship coming, has sweet fa to do with Star Trek, plenty of ships in the series and yet they have to create some random ship that has nothing to do with the series. I mean it's not like there are hundreds of ships they could use 🤣

[vale musk]

it's “ok” if it were so. but then please communicate it accordingly.
that is missing here, so what is happening with this event is absolutely not right.
and as so often: not a word from scope so far; just sit it out.

[opaque wadi]

Having people defeat 15 Q trials is obnoxious and unrealistic for many. Not cool.

[lean cargo]

Why does maintenance continue to be scheduled during the already narrow window for Arenas?

[torpid saddle]

When you prevent players from participating in anything, especially a team event, you are telling players not to play this game.
Message received Scopely

Show me where in here it explains we had to participate in all alb to continue to contribute

[odd osprey]

<@&509690795536941056> since Monday's maintenance will be right in the middle of APAC's Arena time, will they be getting a comp chest for that lost time?

[hot solar]

Ironically, that's the easy bit. Just redo your completed 1* Trials - can do 10 in less that 3 mins unless you're really low ops 😉

[hot solar]

That's the event notification I saw. Zero mention of exclusions based on previous participation 🙄 I'm not so worried about our ALB position; more the demoralising effect on alliance members and disincentive for more alliances to participate overall... 🖖

Anyhoo, Happy Thanksgiving Weekend to our US player base. Unfortunately, seems Scopes doesn't understand the ethos underscoring the sentiment, though. Saudi owners only want to thank their accountants 👀😉

[short ermine]

Great work making overall 4th place in the thanks giving events a better payout than 2nd or 3rd since those get no special tokens at all 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[opaque geyser]

Take this feedback back to your overlords <@&509690795536941056> , because this is the result of Scopley's poor planning and design.

They took a holiday event that should and could have been fun, and made it into yet another reminder that unless you spend, you mean NOTHING.

The rewards were all garbage (where 1st in the challenger league got more rewards than 2nd in the premier). The mechanic of being eliminated was confusing as there were multiple ALBs all at once that were somehow linked?

And every single one of these could have their wins purchased. Absolutely farce of a holiday event that just leaves players demoralized (because despite the odds, they still want to try).

Scopley is doing everything in their power to kill the game for all but the big spenders. As a leader, it is harder and harder to convince players to keep playing and stay engaged, and it has only gotten worse. Great job!

[hot solar]

I'll just refer back to my previous comment. Sentiment lost against profits and they don't care if it's demoralising for alliance members or full alliances.
Very short sighted as I'm sure there'll always be way more players who mostly f2p than whales and us occasional spenders; we've just stopped. 😉

I bet they have more discord moderators than support/developers combined - if only to mute player decent 🤔
#ThinkThisWlllBeLastMessage 🤣

[mellow fjord]

Thank you very much for the rework of the events and event store for Incursions. It’s really adds value to Incursions and gives a reason for everyone to participate.

Great job just awesome 👏👏👏

[green ibex]

Incursions needs an update … spending most time looking for a base or players is not fun

[patent river]

Loved the new additons to the Incursions store! Perhaps that will get more player involvement going forward

[vale musk]

💯

I have never experienced a more unfair event than this one.
If there had been information beforehand that players would be excluded from the following event if they didn't score points beforehand (However, there are also players to whom this does not apply and who are nevertheless not allowed to participate), they could have been prepared for this.
We are 40 (active) players and only 17 (!) can still support an "Alliance Event".
The fact that so few players took part in the previous event was probably not due to the parallel Incursion 🤓
Communication, implementation, Timing = insufficient💩

[pseudo walrus]

we really need a resources given up tab on the incursion

[muted shuttle]

<@&509690795536941056> Since this will be the second time that APAC arenas will be interrupted due to maintenance (first time was start of November for 3 hours), it would be nice to get some kind of compensation for not being able to participate - especially a peak time, i'd imagine as well.

[scenic vale]

monday working hours, plus maintenance downtime. just might as well put a big sign on the arena event saying Arena's for the jobless and retired

[twin verge]

wow..... good job scopely..... let's put 4 different pve kill events on in the middle of an incursion to bait the non pvp players out to their deaths

[rigid crown]

After a bugged start to the Turkey Bowl, you thought it can only get better… No way!!! Some creative mind setting up pvp ALB with NO BRACKETS. That pretty much beats all. Glad to be of service as floor wipe to lv60+++ players 😠

[willow glen]

on our server we also got additionaly incursion 😱 🤣

[high aurora]

50 swarm for an event in which I don't kill hostiles for anymore...ever. Bad event scoring mechanics. Cramming everyone 45+ into the same system is also bad

[scenic vale]

final ALB for the last 2 alliances, why have 4 ranks/milestone rewards? who comes up with these?

[verbal surge]

This is probably the lamest, whaliest and most uncreative ALB ever to be run.
I'm not saying this lightly as there's a lot of competition for that award, but you did it!

[ashen notch]

How bout we not run hostile grind events at the same time as incursions? Better yet, why don't we thrown incursions in the trash where they belong?

[broken loom]

I'm having trouble understanding why these PvP battles didn't score in the event included in the SS's?

[hot solar]

Even your discord name evokes the irony of your ire if you're complaining about stuff not working 😉😂

I'm just waiting for some version of hell to experience climate change before anything improves.

Oh - wait! I've just seen an airborne porcine 🐷✈️😉

[scenic vale]

did you crossover to the rival server? it's an offense attack event.

[strong mica]

were you on the correct server for the event?

[kind dock]

Who's idea was to have all ops sharing the same PvP systems...?

Otherwise okay model. Kind of like Arena where you prevent opponents doing PvE. But having all ops on same systems is really messed up.

Our 39s getting cleared by multiple ops 60s. I understand PvP is about power, but like on Arena your model should put value on different play styles and the fact that not everyone's account is same age. So even with equal money usage trend it's unfair.
<#🌌-galaxy-chat message >

[umbral narwhal]

You have to attack the enemy, I mean the people on the enemy’s server

[dusty shell]

As low level 21 player... I want to provide my thoughts about the Thanksgiving Event. While the 1st 2 days were cool and attainable. the Third Day with the Q Trails was not attainable and now I will not achieve the prizes regardless of how I perform today. I do think this was a poorly designed event aimed for the older more experienced players. If this is how it will always be. I ask why should I continue to play or invest time and resources?

[broken loom]

Oh it only counts if you're on the other server? It doesn't count if you're defending on your own server?

[scenic vale]

if your server was "defending" and the event was called "all out defense"

[marsh pond]

you can get no points in two cases, yours is that your are having battles in wrong server, as attacker must do them on another server jaanu and adelphi if you want to score, the other case is that someone bigger takes you down with a ship over your list, like a kelvin or newton and so on..

[broken loom]

Got it. Thanks!

[past willow]

Please make shield purchases in alliance store have a slider.

[humble shoal]

The shop will be closed when the finals end.
What's the big idea??

[jaunty ingot]

You need to add another way of scoring for the defenders SMS during incursions. when the attacking server has low engagement its impossible to score. Especially for lower ops

[sharp thistle]

The big idea is scopely can't think that far ahead 😄 This entire "event" has been a crapshow from the beginning

[oblique ore]

What a awful idea to make a swarm event during incursion. how should people score when the opponent know exactly where your ships must be?

[sharp thistle]

Scopely organisational skills are something to be amazed at, given how incredibly incompetent it is. Run an event without giving out all the relevant information, the event store for said event ends at the same time the event ends, meaning anyone who wins stuff wont be able to spend it, great idea. Those on Day 3 incursions get screwed by the downtime which is basically going to end incursions, add to that arenas at the same time as it all, I'm pretty sure a 3 month old would have more sense. Need to run arenas on a different day, unless that's the plan to screw people for mining monday events

[crystal fiber]

Me and quite a few others did not ever see the turkey bowl events

[north granite]

Alliance had to be in the top however many in the initial qualifier event, and then successively be in the top half of each subsequent event day

Also, anyone who didn’t score on a day couldn’t help the alliance if they made it to the next day apparently

[crystal fiber]

I never saw the qualifier event, there was a few in the top alliance that won the event that never saw any of the turkey events

[north granite]

It was there, it was announced, just all planned around when a lot of North American players had other stuff to do, like be with family

[crystal fiber]

It was there for some

[versed token]

it was never announced, that if you didn't participate as a single member, you won't be able help your alliance in subsequent events... also this format is incredibly stupid, giving best rewards to 1st and 5th alliance and making it all very much pay2win, I mean why?

[valid knoll]

Whats wild is I didn't participate in the armada alb, but have todays event, but people who did the armadas in my alliance don't have todays

[north granite]

It was poorly structured and worded. Each individual alb had its own measuring sticks, ideally you needed to help in both events and place above last place in one of them. If you guys finished last/4th in the alb and didn’t do the other, you don’t get the next days events or get relegated to lesser events.

[crystal fiber]

That is bizarre

November 28, 2024 Turkey Bowl Harvest - ALB (Qualifier) Thanks for Giving - SMS TBG Harvest - SMS #1

[rich moss]

it’s also insane they’re using noob systems and including pvp so that smaller players in the alliance can play yet they’re getting clubbed by players 30 ops levels higher … these ridiculous kill brackets need to change - i refuse to pvp on principle due to this

[north granite]

Focusing on pvp is the stupidest path. Run realta and speed crew, slap a handful of reds before you get caught, rinse and repeat. Your alliance will pull ahead because the others are too focused on pvp for less points per kill. Oh noes, you lose a realta

[true radish]

You were in the wrong system. Only counts in open systems listed in event.

[patent river]

verify you're on the right server.. clearly if not scoring on the one currently.. swap to the other

[wheat pasture]

The turkey bowl event store timer shows it will close at the same time the final events end. Can we get confirmation that those stores will remain open for some period after?

[sleek sleet]

They don't know. They are straight up shooting from the hip.

[fathom walrus]

I have members that dont see the Finals ALB. If they did not participate previously can they not help?

[sleek sleet]

The current theory is they cannot.

[left hare]

So is this it in a nutshell for everyone else?
Fact 1: The Turkey Bowl event is borked.
Fact 2: No one from Scopely is available to fix the bork because everyone there is on an extended [American] holiday weekend.

Known items that support the facts:
Support 1: Less and less of members of an alliance are able to see ALB's each day the event progresses.
Support 1a: As less members of an alliance are able to see ALB's each day, they are not able to get rewards from them.
Support 1b: As less memebers of an alliance are able to see ALB's each day, they are not albe to score points for said alliance.
Support 1c: As less members on an alliance are able to score points for said alliance, the alliance as a whole a greater chance to be knocked out of the TB for getting 4th in both ALB's.
Support 2: Every person who has submitted a ticket has been given the response of 72+ hours before being addressed.
Support 2a: The only response here on discord has been that the issue has been forwarded for review.

Did I miss anything?

We made it to the end, but we've stopped trying on this ALB because we only (currently) have 8 members who can score points.

[sleek sleet]

Well stated and absolutely correct.

[pallid jay]

We found that alliance members who did not participate in previous rounds didn’t get the reward AND Couldn’t contribute to continued advancement. Not sure if this is intentional or accidental but it’s a PITA for sure.

Also if you win… you won’t get anything for it as the store closes at the same time as the end of the event.

[boreal coyote]

The turkey bowl has great rewards thanks. I do have people in my alliance that don’t see the final event. Did you guys penalize the alliance for people taking thanksgiving off? Ie, if they didn’t score in one it’s over for them? Seams like that is what support is telling them. Feels extra punitive if so, as it’s an alliance event.

[left hare]

yeah. and not published that members had to score and collect to continue in the event.

[cobalt wave]

Supergreat of you running Incursions with these TBG events..... Interfering folks kept me from completing those 15-freaking Q-trials. I was 4 short.

[vagrant topaz]

Just saying: The 704/705 Incursion is a mismatched fiasco. It's basically a candy grab for higher level players, of which there seem to be a disproportionate number on 704. Combining this with a holiday weekend in the US adds difficulty. People are traveling, spending time with family (and experiencing family stress), and so on. Some are quitting the game based on the unfairness of the match between the two servers (possibly in combination with holiday stress). Please think more deeply when planning future incursions.

[stiff meadow]

I really like the alliance turkey event. The new encursion event store was great! Encursions needs a update with some new events. 99% of the players have figured out how to shield for it.

[ebon dome]

Hey! The finalists of the turkey bowl, will not get their winnings for 12 hours!!! The event turn in ends in 12 hours scopley!!

[nocturne musk]

Anyone remember all the events for this? Day 1 was mining? Day 2 was damage to armadas and something else. Day 3 was Q trials and spend officer xp.

[opaque geyser]

Damage to madas and ship xp

[digital forge]

This last turkey bowl event is a botters paradise. I wish scopely invested in better anti-bot tech.

Nothings 100% but I play other games where botting doesn’t last long and people get perma bans.

Just have noted numerous bots out there and they lessen the motivation for teams that play straight up to put in the time for grind events.

[daring smelt]

Great timing Scopely. TBG#4 same time as incursion. And what’s most fun, no scoring at all. Thanks for the great fun

[mild coyote]

Give everyone the rewards of the last "thanks" event for free. Due to incursions, on a workday I might add, it is made impossible to finish!

[gray dawn]

Any news about the ongoing turkey ALB? It will be over in 8hrs and the store will close at the same moment? How do we spend the last turkey token then? @near saddle

[neat lake]

@near saddle Can you pass this on, setting maintenance during an active Incursion should not happen. Both APAC and US get their full run whereas the EU will now lose an hour or so.

[twin knoll]

@neat lake luck of the draw buddy were in the EU and we had our incursion on day 1

[neat lake]

EU incursion is still going on and we went last

[hollow lichen]

maybe you have EU members but the EU servers went on day 1

[neat lake]

OK just looked at https://startrekfleetcommand.com/news/november-2024-infinite-incursions-pairings/ Incursions started 29/11 globally. It was a regional mix. So no EU did not all go day 1. My feedback stands, there should not be any downtime during incursions if split accross days like this.

[fluid lotus]

Well there is downtime during APAC arena and we had incursions

[neat lake]

If you accept this happening then no change will happen.

[quaint parrot]

You are right but there is not solution about Incursion planning date without changing tack. Incursion runs between two Arcs and every Arc starts at the beginning of the month: it can be postponed in the next scheduled event time, not anticipated.

Incursion on October: halloween
Incursion on November: Thanksgiving Day

I don't know if at the end of December there are some holidays in USA: in Europe unfortunately the year ends and 🎇 🥳 🎅 🍷 ....sarcasm.

[delicate steeple]

Shut the game down for maintenance during incursion...fire whoever had this idea. Are you kidding me?!

[glacial pawn]

At least auto shields will be up and probably that whale won't lose it for either server. Unless you are in the lead of course because of said whale 😂

[delicate steeple]

Great job again scopely. Ridiculous.

[fallow seal]

So I heard hostile limits affects arena, maybe you should fix that 🤔

[visual lichen]

Incursions during a holiday event then maintenance during the incursion. All for yet another new ship and grind no one asked for. Product Manager should be sacked.

[amber hound]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-money-gif-14124393094162907114

[indigo ingot]

A new ship means more $. Why fix things when you can pump out content people will pay for?

[delicate steeple]

Finally back on and now there is gold shields...during incursion..........

[candid scaffold]

great job <@&509690795536941056> and @rose oracle. Ceasefire shields during an Incursion... great job. sarcasm 🤮

[tame terrace]

You beat me to it 🤣🤣. <@&509690795536941056> Way to ruin incursions

[quaint parrot]

Stations in unsafe systems (19+) had not normal shield, have not ceasefire shield and will have not any shield until Incursion ends

Maybe 20+: my server has not played Incursion in the last two months and I have not memory for not playable contents

[candid scaffold]

you are wrong: Ceasefire shield at territory:

[quaint parrot]

New feature: ceasefire shield ≠ peace shield.

Please <@&509690795536941056> can you forward the request to change this?

https://scopely.helpshift.com/hc/en/19-star-trek-fleet-command/faq/6722-infinite-incursions/

[jolly oxide]

Incursions ending on a Monday with 23987 other events going on really is not a good idea, followed by arenas......kinda hard to get excited for arenas tonight. Maybe split incursions into just friday/saturday and do away with this sunday stuff. Also ending incursions with a maintenance messes with the ability to score. Just overall bad planning.

[hard bronze]

It was a really good idea to give peace shields to all players, after finishing maintenance. Especially in the systems above level 20 when the incursions are running and you want the gain some more points via base raiding

[jolly heath]

Ceasefire shields during the incursion completely shutting down the last window in the event. Completely boned any chance in recovery or a clap back after they countered.

That incursions are so heavily weighted to RSS base raids in terms of scoring undermines any other form of PvP and makes it about the biggest mistake one player makes instead of the excellence of the rest of the server cooperating.

Add to all of this that Turkey Bowl has Leaderboard Events giving Event Tokens when the store closes at the same time the leaderboards finish is just the icing on the cake.

It is a joke that such things were scheduled this way, and a bigger joke that such things were scheduled when Scopely is out of office on a holiday so they couldn't correct or address anything.

[obsidian quiver]

For the first time I actually had a good time participating in Incursions. The teams were well matched and the lead actually changed hands several times. Right up until this insane maintenance. Who actually tosses a wrench into their own game mechanic? Once again Scopley you are your own worst enemy.

[grizzled crystal]

Yeah, ceasefire shields during incursion is a new lowest low! Well done Scopely <@&509690795536941056>

[odd osprey]

bump @full swan @near saddle for visibility. This has happened to APAC players a couple of times now and they deserve compensation for the interruption to their events. How about 1200 Arena credits?

[merry storm]

702 vs 703. 702 is running away with it on points. Come back from maintenance and we're down 8T+

[icy marsh]

@full swan this is now the 2nd (or 3rd??) time APAC arena window, which is already so short and difficulty due to timezones, have been interrupted by almost 2 hours of maintennance. and during prime playing hours too. this is pretty ridiculous

[cold grotto]

Arena still the usual joke and now after maintenance the lag is so bad can’t even play. Another Scopely failure.

[hasty void]

The ceasefire shields last until incursion end time. Next time just end the incursion before maintenance <@&509690795536941056> this is a joke.

[late mango]

Maintenance during incursion

[robust bronze]

Are you aware that atm the turkey bowl finals, which are rewarding thanksgiving event tokens, are about to finish at the very same moment you intend to close the thanksgiving store? So there will be no way to spend the one(s) won in that event?

[hasty void]

Can we also address why Premier rank 4 is worse rewards then the other tier rank 1? We placed in the top 4, we should all be getting better rewards then the 5-8th place people for this Turkey Bowl event <@&509690795536941056>

[vagrant topaz]

Long holiday weekend... probably no one is allowed to make decisions at Scoply🤷🏻‍♂️. Think the shop will come again on Tuesday or so. Anything else would be a little 💩. And the protest storm of the players will be big. See #FreeToken pictures again... similar to Gaila back then. Get 3 tokens afterwards and would of course like to redeem them. I have already redeemed the other 5 just in case.

[late orchid]

Question... how are we supposed to use the turkey bowl event rewards from the past 24hrs if those redeems disappear the same time those events end?

[balmy oracle]

Event store closes the same time the alb stops , how we use that tokens then?

[molten marlin]

it's being extended

[vagrant topaz]

Thank you 🙏 🍹

[sick crypt]

Anyone know why some of my alliance members don't got the turkey bowl slb event in their events

[sleek mist]

They probably didn't do the earlier ones. If you don't participate each day, you don't get the next day's events

[terse pewter]

wondering if the mining one was flawed already people did not get day 2 alb's even tho they finished their solo sms which scores on the alb as well... but on the stfc space the event says crystal mining

[robust vine]

Can we get rid of this stupid cooldown? What for?

[hazy swallow]

Thanksgiving event store ends at the same time we'll receive our loot from the final round. 🙄

[void light]

Maintenance and Ceasefire Shields are a great way to Ruin Incursions

[acoustic magnet]

its the scopely way to say even they dont like incursion

[empty robin]

@near saddle having an ALB that not all alliance members can participate in is really bad design. The lack of communication about why members are not getting ALBs in the series and cannot participate in the final is even worse. We deserve to have at least some official communication about why so many of us stopped seeing the Turkey Bowl Gauntlet ALBs. That is the least yall need to do.

My alliance made it to the final but only 15 out of 84 alliance members can see the event... I have been unable to see the ALBs since day 2...
So @near saddle, what do you have to stay?

[gray pawn]

usually people not participating in the albs just don't get the rewards which is fair but hiding events on top of zero comms is a new low 🤦‍♀️

[primal snow]

It cemented me never participating in them again, so good job on them 🙂

[opaque geyser]

It's actually AMS that they don't get rewards if they don't participate. This is a first for ALBs.

[spare island]

The cooldown in the incursion store is dumb get rid of it

[crystal tree]

@near saddle @full swan Was there any word on compensation or anything for the players who didn't have easy Q trials to do 15 of?

[hasty void]

I'm honestly never going to go ham on this style of event again. Placing in the top 4 and getting 8th rank prizes is beyond comprehension.

[open magnet]

they literally sent enough bells in gifts yesterday.

[pallid fable]

Dont run incursions on days that you have maintence updates that hurt us badly

[languid ice]

Any chance we could get the incursion store extended? Would be helpful for trading in built up trophies, since they have a cooldown and this is the first opportunity to trade them in. <@&509690795536941056>

Or remove the cooldown on the trophy exchanges.

[normal jay]

disappointing to find that the first multi-day alliance event held in years culminated with the same frame being given out to the top 3 alliances ... so we just killed ourselves for days to get #1 in everything for (checks notes) 30k syndicate?

that's less than one day's worth of syndicate pulls ...

[lime prawn]

You also got many more of the Thanksgiving tokens, those are pretty nice

[normal jay]

still would have been nice to have a frame like the last time they did this 3 years ago with the #1. that's something that you can see over and over again vs some stuff.

[dusky hinge]

Whoever at Scopely that decided that earning a Thanksgiving Avatar after the holiday is already over should be publicly mocked for a terrible idea.... "Hey celebrate Thanksgiving with this lovely avatar... btw you can get it 3 days after the actual holiday is over"

[normal jay]

oh yeah ... the frame we fought so hard for is a "rare" thanksgiving frame given out in december. thanks scobama ...

[primal snow]

We're all putzes for falling for it repeatedly...it's like an abusive relationship

[dusky hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-murdock-daredevil-hurt-injured-bruised-gif-12433849

[full swan]

Lemme see what I can do.

[errant belfry]

they're not talking g about having enough bells. They're talking about lower level players that don't have access to ships strong enough to even finish the first tiers on the trials so didn't have the ability to just go back and do them again to complete the event.

[empty robin]

From Support (apparently screenshots from support are against server policy as they dont want us to share how bad support is at answering questions or dealing with problems),
"To be able to participate on the next round/s of the gauntlets, your alliance would need to have ranked 1st to 3rd for each one.

Additionally, please know that this gauntlet is like any other Alliance events. So if you or any of the members of the alliance didn't contribute points either in the qualifier or in any of the following gauntlet round, you won't be able to participate on the next rounds even if your alliance do qualify for them.

If there's anything else we can assist you that is not related to this issue, just drop us another message, and we'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Thanks!"

@near saddle @full swan When has the highlighted section ever been explained? When was the last time we had an ALB gauntlet? On top of that, holding this over a holiday week, when people are traveling and incursions are happening? That is some hot trash!!!

I am frustrated beyond belief with this. The worst part is that it says ALLIANCE LEADER BOARD, but you added an individual participation portion to it... So now because I was busy with family events on incursion day, and had to chose which events to participate in... I and my whole alliance get punished because now I couldn't help them out.

Yalls timing and decision making is mind blowing. You took what could be a fun alliance event and gated it and make it a pain point for most players. At every turn $¢opely finds a way to make decisions to sap fun out of the game...

[full swan]

Pinged you.

[errant belfry]

I've said for years I think this game is just a social experiment to see how bad they can be and still make a profit. They just keep finding new ways to be a terrible company.

[normal jay]

now you've gone and done it. you just invalidated the experiment and we are all about to get flushed out of the matrix.

[open magnet]

ye, just insult them more, it will help 💯

[edgy olive]

Incursion feedback: What about changing incursions to force the sides to do other things vs just raiding bases? What about during an incursion all dailies can only be done on the opponent's side and all points are calculated towards alliances as well as servers that finishes more dailies during incursions, this would encourage pvp moreso vs just raiding bases. I can't state enough how boring and time consuming it is to raid a base. 🥱 How about an event during an incursion that removes points from your team if your team raids an opponent's base while on your server. And what is it with doing a maintenance shield during an incursion? Lots of issues with that one, where bases could still get raided with the maintenance shield up or our longer shields being removed when the maintenance shield goes up? (this one hit a lot of people this round, you should probably compensate the servers for this). Pull requests helps your software group immensely when changing your code.. just incase you forgot.

[full swan]

I'm passing on to the team that we should have informed players about how to progress in the tureky bowl.

[outer verge]

@full swan if there improvements in arena matchmaking in the near future? that matchmaking now isnt playable...

[full swan]

Yeah. I'm still seeing matchmaking being the number one issue being raised.

[opaque hawk]

i cant think of another time that we have had this. basically 2/3 of our alliance got knocked out after day 1 cause it was during our incursion and they were focused on that
also, have 2 events a day was messed up too, had to place 4th in both to be eliminated...doesnt make sense (and we actually had 5 alliances in one of our champion brackets somehow....)

[opaque geyser]

While I appreciate you passing this along, it severely impacted morale. It took a fun event and made it a grind. I doubt anything will come of it, but I really do hope they are paying attention to the plethora of feedback, including how the rewards were done.

(1st P, 1st C, 2nd P, 2nd C, 3rd P, 3rd C, etc.)

Instead of how it SHOULD have been:
(1st P, 2nd P, 3rd P, 4th P/1st C, 2nd C, 3rd C, 4th C).

It punished the alliances that made it to the premier League when we should have intentionally placed lower in qualifier to get better rewards.

[full swan]

Good news! We will extend the Incursions store for an extra day!

[keen egret]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-good-news-everyone-professor-farnsworth-great-news-gif-17213270

[hollow pelican]

Nice usual poor mechanics scopley 49 matching against level 60s so stupid then getting matched against the exact same team 2 times in a row, put a level mechanic in, how can 49s even compete against 60s

[boreal coyote]

@full swan same as just posted in arena feedback. they got the spread.....

[nimble dragon]

I miss one event and I don’t get the rewards for my alliance winning the tournament??? I double checked the event yesterday and no where did it say I had to get at least one kill to get the rewards.

[oblique ore]

Can we get another source option for the terran credits please? We have so much players who hate pvp. So please don't force them into it. Additional the Arenas take to much time to get enough rewards for a whole week of pulls. Its a little frustrating atm.

[spare temple]

Not to mention some items are only available in the Terran store.

[crimson galleon]

The algorithm used to match arena squads still needs tweaking. It is often a horrible mismatch..

[crystal tree]

"enough bells" doesn't help if the three ships I can choose from are over 1mil. I haven't completed any of the tiers yet to be able to redo an easy one, and no number of bells is gonna make my 475k North Star or Kehra able to take down those ships and then 14 more harder ones. Sure, with crewing I can maybe get one (though I did not succeed that day), but 15 is out of reach for me and many other lower level players.

[opal dock]

Arena sucks needs to balance out equal n power ratio more not every has whale card pockets

[median tapir]

Please don't double book time consuming events like Turkey bowl and incursion. That wasn't enjoyable.

[green hearth]

Wow more faction grinding. How about a Franklin-a skin event. Haven't seen one in like 3 years or so.

[hollow flicker]

@scopley can we please get another day of the week for arenas. At least on a rotation or something, always Mondays are really bad for some peeps (me for 1) just another variation of some kind to give us a little more participation option. Please, pretty please. 🤞🙏🏼

[hollow flicker]

@empty robin. What i don't like is in all of these events there's no green check flag or anything to say yea. Your counted as participating. But I can dang sure get a flag for new and old videos. For refineries I've already done or are still on timer, or for new store items. Yea priorities are on the wrong elements, gameplay second to everything else. Player notification and inclusion in important information dead last.

[empty robin]

I think that is a great suggestion for improvements. I would certainly take that as a big Quality of Life thing they could do.

[true radish]

My biggest issue is timing of event. I have about an hour to get some in IF my alliance has other in range to join which isn't always the case. The rest of the 8 hour window is family time, dinner, putting kids to bed, then going to bed myself. Couldn't even do any last week. Usually get maybe three matches in. Was fortunate tonight to have some extra time and got more in for once but this event NEEDS to be longer for me to really participate and get new currency for terran store. All last week was no pulls since I couldn't do it 😮‍💨. I want to participate but artificial 8hr window makes it very hard normally.

[limpid oracle]

Subject: Missing Event Store for Frontier Battlepass – Ops 25+

Hello,

S712 would like to bring to your attention a significant issue with the Frontier Battlepass and its associated event store that we believe requires review.

The Frontier Battlepass, designed to help newer servers catch up, has been marketed as a way for players to earn and purchase tokens to spend on ships and other rewards in the event store. However, for players who reach Ops Level 25 or higher, the event store disappears entirely.

This restriction was never communicated to players, and it has caused significant losses for those who participated in good faith. Historically, previous Frontier Battlepasses did not impose such limits, and players had no reason to expect this change.

Here are our main concerns:

1. Players who bought premium Frontier Battlepasses or spent money to maximize their rewards were more likely to level up quickly to Ops 25 or higher due to the progression boosts from the rewards. These players are now locked out of spending their hard-earned event tokens, losing the value of their investment.
2. Many players purchased additional packs to win events tied to the Frontier Battlepass, expecting to use their tokens to claim key rewards from the event store, or they bought the reward tokens directly. Without warning, the event store closed for Ops 25+ players, leaving them with unusable tokens.
3. The loss of access to the event store has directly impacted players’ effectiveness in other in-game events, compounding the disadvantage caused by the disappearance of the store.

Customer support has stated that the event store is unavailable for players above Ops 25 by design. However, this was never disclosed in advance. This lack of transparency has caused players to lose money and in-game progression that they cannot recover.

We believe this issue deserves your attention and appropriate compensation for affected players. At the very least, the event store should be reinstated for Ops 25+ players so they can spend their tokens as intended.

Thank you for your time, and we hope to see this addressed soon.

Sincerely,
Server S712

We have brought this issue forward in bug reports and with customer service multiple times.

I’ve been told mentioning @storm ridge may help.

[static zinc]

please create more events and daily tasks that will make the game more stable and more fun

[opaque wadi]

This is crap, do it when there are no events. Can’t you guys plan to screw up the game during event-less days? Mining Mondays and Thursdays are events people actually compete for and not everyone can get on at 8AM. 🙄. I know you guys don’t care but it’s nice to have the illusion the players matter.

[iron hound]

I play as a cadet on one server but as an Ops Level 33 on another. I want to offer a suggestion for Scopeley. There is no incentive to do Lat rush if you have no hope of coming 3rd or above. The prizes suck from 4th on down, but you can work just as hard as the guy in 3rd and get edged out in the end. If that happens, you only get a little dilithium, Whoopdie Doo. Even if you come in the top 3 you get very few parts for upgrading your D'vor. We work hard to mine all that Lat etc for 24 hrs to squabble over a crappy prize. I love mining and love the idea of a Lat rush event, but here's my suggestion, make them three separate 8hour events, make the prizes better, perhaps include some Lat as well as more D'vor parts, and spread it out so that the person in 10th still gets something decent. After that perhaps include some BP's for faction mining ships or others, or simply give out some Uncommon refined Crystal, Gas, and Ore. Stop being so tight with prizes. This will be the last one I participate in until it improves, and I love doing them generally. I'm just not going to play until 4 am my time for these prizes and especially not for the 4place on down, Dilithium, which I could easily mine whenever if that was even necessary, which it's not.Working 16-18 hours without good prizes is no fun and a fool's errand.

[pseudo coral]

They're terrified of altering anything in this game. Incursion, battle simulator, loops, dailies. I'd love to see more interesting ways of encouraging PvP, even promoting mining. Bonus points for gathering encouraging the other team to hunt. Raiding bases is awful especially if a few attacking same base.

[iron hound]

People are encouraged to follow ROE, but there is Zero policing, one guy was cloaking and hitting my miners before they even started mining. It kind of sucks trying to do an event that requires a lot of mining when people can come in and hit you UPC, while Cloaked over and over again forcing you to move spot, and they suffer no consequences
while helping their buddies climb up the winnings ladder.

[snow holly]

Hi <@&509690795536941056> - I've just read through the post on the changes to the non-battlepass event schedule. I'm cautiously optimistic, though it will take time to get used to.
However, a big part of whether I engage with the new dailies will depend on how this reflects battlepass events. I'm not going to spend anything in the material spend events if that weakens my position for the weekend officer spend, for example.
I'd also be wary of spending FC or forbidden tech materials until I know if the battlepass events for these will stop. Can I suggest that you tell us if there won't be any further BP events for these things? Otherwise people are going to hold on to their stocks, just in case.

[opal obsidian]

any idea when we will get sarris invasion back again

[willow coral]

sorry.... ... we are people

[molten marlin]

you already posted it once, you don't need to psot it again, and such packs exist

[limpid galleon]

tbh i am completely pessimistic about this. i won't spend any of those things for "daily events" when there's pretty sure there are reoccuring SLBs for all of them.
also the new week schedule brings up lots of bs, we for gods sake had finally overcome with mu and xb shops. i mean voyager.... please, nobody wants to do this. it's a terrible grind design and forcing people to do it because there are weekly events is just stupid. whoever came up with those new schedules has never read any post nor actually played the game, but instead have been drinking paint for some time. and that's not good for ya brain cells :o

[warm crest]

Its just sad that the people at scopely actually think we believe that their revemped daily events are being done for the benefit of the players.... It's very clearly a way to just try to get players to spend their stuff on a weekly basis in the hopes that when we run out, we'll come running to scopely with our cresit card for more. That being said, if they keep putting out garbage officers, maybe I won't mind spending my mats in weekly events and getting something useful from them.

[flint dirge]

If you insist on keeping the vindicator sourcing locked behind the arena, make it so you can enter with less than a full squad. It is a dead feature, no one wants to do it (this is from a 100+ member alliance too) which makes sourcing impossible outside $$.

I will gladly join solo arenas and just lose to get the credits to source the ship since they refuse to make the feature fair which has destroyed participation.

[copper shadow]

have to agree with the solo arena bit and matchmaking times tbh. i tried to start up a team yesterday and gave up after waiting 90 minutes. Fellow alliance member who was in a higher league tried for 30 minutes and gave up we even combined to 1 team and couldn't get a 3rd person. Now this might just be a 1 off situation but seriously 2hrs wasted in a 8hr event that was changed due to being during daytime when most people work should tell you something. The same data of all we all reporting and voicing should tell you something. Your own data regarding arena's should tell you something but instead it seems to vastly be ignored. I've lost track of how many weeks arena has been since it's inception only that the matches I've been able to get into is dropping lower and lower each week. Something needs to be done to revitalize it for the community or it may become more dead than it already is. Just some food for thought no insulting needing since ya dont seem to pay attention to us unless we drop 5k a month in packs.

[sterile yew]

With the new schedule f2p will have a hard time for FT as our options of acquisition of new teck is non existent. No feringi whip means we will stop being able to participate sooner rather than later.

[crystal cedar]

make the pvp chest interesting and we will all start doing much more of it - SO SIMPLE!
Even better, get great PvP chests from winning and punching up/the bigger the ship, the better loot from winning.

[rose ice]

Is Eclipse Armada Thursday no more??

[shadow trellis]

Nope think it’s still happening

[pale widget]

#💫-event-information

[whole axle]

<@&509690795536941056> A simple fix: don’t schedule arenas on Lat Rush Monday OR make it so it won’t recall your miners. With the limited window to participate in arenas, you really chose to hamstring player involvement.

[pastel bobcat]

the new daily event schedule requiring mat spend for the SLB/SMS events is a huge downgrade

[scenic flint]

Something here isn't like the others...is this a mistake or intentional?

[visual furnace]

Wooowww you've outdone yourselves scopely. The El-Alurian hunt ..stupidly high milestones making it near impossible to complete without the new ship in systems with dramatically reduced hostile counts. <@&509690795536941056>

[analog field]

I can kill 52 without stressing 😁😁 I know math wasn't your strong side

[jade smelt]

What system are they in?

[shut geode]

points are to extreme for OPS 59 - that takes 4 days

[neon terrace]

<@&509690795536941056> Hey I would gladly exchange currencies of this useless event store to the casual materials from events. Also thanks for "hearing" us about material choice of BPs and added epic g5 ore and gas to choices, oh wait.... Keep up the good work.

[odd dock]

Protector is not in the Holiday Ship selection ........ why? <@&509690795536941056> ty

[high aurora]

Nearly 141 hostiles for an ops 58 with t7 Pilum (54's). Try your math again Scopely <@&509690795536941056>

[stray grove]

I very much enjoy Mat choices on the BP, thank you.

[willow coral]

@wanton copper @icy cairn choice rewards on both accounts !!!!!!!!!!!!!! thankyou !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😻 [eu401/406]

[odd dock]

hope your server players used googleplay or ios stores

[high aurora]

Ops 60, killing 56’s (my ceiling) using a t7 Rotarran, requires 144 hostiles

[supple surge]

Hey 144 is pretty good, I have to kill 376... at about 20 per hull....

[willow coral]

no links or galaxy flags 😦

[vale musk]

in view of the fact that only interceptors are practicable, a life's work. what a load of rubbish

[north ledge]

Thank you for the changes to old outdated daily events and some other old weekly events.

With that said, can the team focus on Event store update for start of 2025, so this December event store is the last ''old" event store that we see? It needs massive overhaul if it is to serve not just G2-G4 players to catch up, but also to entice G5-G6 players to participate in SLBs to get more event store currency or buy the event store loot packs. Make me want to get more currency, because there are so many great options, instead of dreading an empty month with less rss and mats payouts and nothing to offset that loss!

As it is, for players that are already playing for some time, there is nothing new that wasn't there 2 years ago. Yes, the officers rotate, and once in a while BPs for ship that we already got will make it there. But there are no:

• Refits for G5/G6 ships and specialty ships that are older than 1 year
• Beams and lasers that are older than 1 year
• Artifacts that are older than 1 year
• Forbidden Techs that are older than 1 year
• Primes that are older than 1 year
• Ship parts for specialty ships that I have bought / unlocked that are older than 1 month (I can understand that current new release is not going to be there, but if I bought a ship last month, I want to be able to choose to progress it)
• Special building parts like War Room, Archives, Nova Squadron..
• Mats and rss bundles should be updated to reflect current economy

[lyric quiver]

The requirements to complete the El aurian hostile sms are ridiculous

[quartz creek]

@full swan Digging the new ship. Granted it's Stella 2.0 but there's no mats or rss required to upgrade. Definitely could use better warp range. Can only reach lvl 54 system but annihilating the ships there. Thanks!

[ionic palm]

no comment

[unreal coral]

Sms hostile event target is very high as I can't hit ships equivalent to my ops level (ops 58 and having to grind vs L54s) so looking at 200 ship hostile grind

[vale musk]

in view of the fact that only interceptors are practicable, a life's work. what a...

[indigo oracle]

I ve to kill 200 52er El ships St ops 58.... gimme more time 😉

[solemn fjord]

recalibrate the El event, its ludicrous with everyone hitting down in the same systems

[true tulip]

That’s 2 hulls of level 75 Cube, sigma tritt wasted on event not worth rewards.
Yes I know how to crew properly.

[dense hollow]

as it seems lat rush as become a talking point again can I add my ten penneth. Since the change to territories giving 4* and 5* the lat rush event was aided by the mining of 3* gas ore and crystal. This didnt affect the results greatly as everyone had access to these nodes however now with 5* for example for low level payers only being available in 3* territory and giving such high rewards in the lat rush event the chances now of low level outside of the big alliances gaining enough points to win is getting harder and harder. Id there any way to remove 4* and 5* mining in the event for players ops level 39 and below? There is no way I am rushing to ops 40 to get access to the 4* mining areas and leaving myself rresearch vulnerable. It really doesnt make sense. This is not encouraging people to spend either so that thinking is not here this time.

Finally I agree with others saying the updates during mining events is ridiculous but I dont agree with 8 hour batches

[flint oyster]

Who thought this point system was good ?

[lyric quiver]

I would understand it if the loot pertained specifically to the new ship (ie upgrading the bought ship). But seeing how it’s general currency that everyone can use. It makes no sense.

[umbral tinsel]

<@&509690795536941056> we are waiting for a response on the amount of el aurian hostiles that need to be killed for the event….

[spring lantern]

The sms points are ridiculous. They are based off new ship purchase to hit hostiles high enough to finish in any reasonable amount of time

[covert kraken]

Even buying the new ship, unless you spend to get upgrade resources it can only realisticly make it to t he 52 system

[obsidian ether]

I'm ops 18. I don't have any events for HOLIDAYS EVENT TOKENS. I feel neglected

[narrow tusk]

im ops 35 no new events for me

[true tulip]

52 With grush on bridge… that makes ops 68 spend more time on single sms then at full time job 😂

[fierce patrol]

Would be nice if when an arc starts with a new ship you introduce a $19.99 pack that gets us the ship along with the $99.99 pack that gives multiple upgrades.

[reef sky]

I need to kill 100 ships for the el auduri SMS. Great.

[full swan]

Letting the team know.

[covert kraken]

Doing two of the solomardas with it was enough to get materials to upgrade the warp drive, with Kirk slotted in FC with warp range upgrade mine has a range of 272, which is enough to get to the 52 but not the 54. So at ops 58 I would need to kill 200+ ships for the event. While competing for them with others. Stupidly high requirement

[boreal coyote]

i have a great idea! lets do a grind event thats extremely painful without the new ship!

[dark horizon]

whoever came up with this scoring i wish you the !BEST

[odd dock]

and this is why you should never ops up and camp 😉

[true tulip]

I think it’s case of event runner. Each 3 months we get issue with sms having crazy milestones… and few hours into it we get message with: feedback, adjusted, llap.

[crimson ravine]

Why stick armadas in EVERY system reducing the number of hostiles ... does no one actually think about these things for hostile events?!?

[tribal meadow]

Aurian hunt......another event not worth tbe effort. You can keep it.

[green ibex]

Takes ages … go have fun they thought 😂

[full portal]

New ship in game so why no vindicar in bps event store?

[lyric quiver]

It’s not just the crazy milestones in these events but the inclining challenge of milestones as a result of leveling up that makes people want to quit the game. When people invest a lot of time in a game it’s to see a light at the end of a tunnel where the daily grind gets easier. Sure there will still be difficult bosses or levels in a game that challenge you, but not the basic grinding.

[hard sentinel]

Umm, why are we trying to complete this El Aurian event for event store credits when there is nothing worth doing the event in the actual event store? Event store needs an update so we have incentive to participate in the events in this arc.

[bronze holly]

This is where the arc and events turn evil

[cinder ivy]

It appears as if the El-Aurian event sms milestones are based on what the expected tier of the revenant would be according to ops.

Many don’t have the revenant, let alone upgraded it yet. Same thing happened with the tally/borg when it was released.

If I recall the tally sms was adjusted to account for that, if I can suggest that for future, these type of sms take into account the 100 day to obtain + time to upgrade the ship to the expected level of the players ops it’d be much more enjoyable + likely be better received

[umbral tinsel]

The team is looking into it guys.

[versed hedge]

EVENT STORE, STILL no feesha salvager refit, has been almost a year now since it was last seen? would like to obtain it, don't know of any other sourcing?

[torpid marten]

This is completely unplayable, I destroy a hostile every 10 minutes. Why do they come out?

[solemn tide]

Can you guys fix the points for El-Aurian event. I don’t have the new ship, but grinding for hours and hours is not what I consider to be fun.

[high aurora]

FYI the furthest the new ship can reach is about warp 299 with research and the t1 warp engine. You need to fix these numbers for the El-Aurian SMS or add a bonus. It's not practical at ops 60 to grind 54's. The alternative is that I TRY and kill 58's, 18 at a time with my T7 Rotarran. That's 89 hostiles or 5 hulls.

[sour narwhal]

This El-Aurian Hostile Hunt is stupid, I hope whoever came up with it stubs their pinky toe on the foot of their bed.

[full swan]

Been trying to get that and the Disco S31 refit for a while...

[spring lantern]

All those hulls and time for 1 epic q shard, 1 (or three of the rare q's). Shame on you scopely, and shame on me for not figuring that out sooner or i would have skipped the whole stupid thing

[high aurora]

The milestone scoring needs to be multiplied by at least 5. That's about 30 hostiles, even 4x keeps it under 40 hostiles.

[brazen latch]

There is no event for lower level people to earn any holiday event currency, and for the 38+ if you don’t have the ability to destroy the El-Aurian the event might as well not exist. The chances of a 38 killing 1 El-Aurian let alone the 55 that is required is not good.

[neon terrace]

Honestly. Event store is awful now. Nothing useful to get from that (also robs us materials from events), so why bother with that ridiculous SMS?

[spring lantern]

I had to use my 500m sanctus as an ops 56 and cheeto every time on 52s for 20k a kill and a 3+m event finish. Extremely painful. Over 150 kills, and about 9 hulls

[late yoke]

I would require 100 of those for completing the event. This event is therefor considered a flat failure.

[candid trout]

How can I score points if the event isn’t showing?

[quartz creek]

Are you lvl 42? If not, the event probably won't show for you.

[full swan]

Raised this!

[shadow path]

150 hostiles for those rewards? REALLY?

[fading basin]

I think the term is on your bike scopely , no way i am doing that assimilate sms event , got better things to do with my time than shoot 150 hostiles with most of my server , hard pass on this one thanks

[full swan]

Looking into this.

[cunning chasm]

2b ship and can barely kill 20 L58 fully buffed and this event want me kill 200 L60??? L60 even buffed is just POP. Please stop setting events for maxed ships.

[hollow lichen]

Ugh, get the new ship.amd play around with it and the madas. Guess what, sms days after launch and 7 day cooldown on the directives... way to punish your paying players

[neon terrace]

Don't worry. Cooldown shorten Refit for new ship is in development 👌😉

[shell vortex]

The team shouldn't have launched it that way. They are getting paid so maybe they should play test their nonsense

[late yoke]

Maybe playtest without 2B Latinum and ships edited seconds ago into the account, possibly violating some OPS requirements on the way.

I wonder myself what the current numbers are based on.

[cunning chasm]

I will say it this way.... if event need more than half hour, kill way more than 50 hostiles or require 5+ repairs I am not doing it.

[royal fossil]

Different topic, but event related that others have raised as well - will there be directives given out to support the Type 03 and Polygon SMSes coming in a few days? several of us have been testing the ship and spent many directives.

[burnt sundial]

This Aurian SMS is a JOKE !!!! We see what you want to do Scopely.... It's sure that you want us to buy the new ships to get it done quicker....

[full swan]

#💬-events-feedback message

[shell vortex]

You can instead grind out about 400...🤣 Lower ones

[cunning chasm]

Even with new ship I doubt it can kill 40 L66 from start to complete event in reasonable time. For higher level players new ships are usually not usable for quite some time until you make them like T6-8 or even higher as its simple weaker than our regular ships.

[burnt sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-and-cam-my-man-gif-23905435

[oblique ore]

the biggest problem isn't the number of hostiles, you can kill. Its the ressources,you must invest. I can maybe kill 5 lvl 44 with a 80 Million ship and would need 20 hulls to complete. The calculation doesn't work. Its time to adjust the score down about factor 10 (or 5 if you increase the respawn rate)
@full swan

[quartz creek]

Did you mean "Razed this!" as in destroyed the event or "Raised this!" as in brought this up to devs?

[full swan]

Yup. Think we'll be offering an extra event tomorrow to make up for it.

[full swan]

Touche.

[coral bane]

Are there no arc store reward events for lower level players?

[true tulip]

Still no.

[bronze holly]

Shame on me for thinking this would be a positive arc

[fluid gust]

the revenant is surprisingly strong for grinding.
even a fresh one will do lvl54's, as long as you have a way to get it into the system.

warp range is the biggest limiting factor.

[cunning chasm]

thx, but still does not help higher ops, would still need 625x L54 to complete event

[fluid gust]

got mine to tier 2, can easily do 58's.
only reason i can't try higher is because i don't have the warp range to go higher on revenant, discovery, or eviscerator.

[high aurora]

This doesn't help when we still have to kill 80+ hostiles and 5 hulls+. Making the event longer does not recoup the time and resources spend. You're just spreading the pain over a longer period of time instead of addressing the actual issue....the number of hostiles required and the amount of hull repairs needed. 7 billion a hull for 1 event is not chump change.

[vernal breach]

It was brought up above but either missed or skipped. Those of us who bought the ship and tested it a little before the events notes came out only to find that we'd used solo armada summons that will be part of an SMS in 2 days are a bit shafted. Since the timer to get new directives is 7 days, we will not be able to partake. This should have been made clear at the time of purchase. Please advise before I request a refund.
@full swan

[shy spindle]

It's still not over yet. It's just the usual messy start that Scopely is known for.

[azure gazelle]

El-Aurian SMS is WAY too hard! Don't you have data to design the SMS events?

Let me guess: It was designed by the same person that designed the original Xindi setup? The one that upset close to all of us because they were way too strong? Or the person that most ign.or.an.tly wrote (on discord?) that you were surprised how low Xindi we hit? (maybe the same person...)

Please adjust the El-Aurian SMS for much lower requirements. Thanks.

[full swan]

#⚡-mod-announcements message

[full swan]

I'll look into this...

[nova birch]

El-Aurian event is shocking, no chance on completing unless I take a day off work just to hit pixels...great start to new arc 🙄

[lyric quiver]

Nobody wants to spend this much time grinding. Giving people more time is not the solution.

[full swan]

Yup. We're running an alt SMS tomorrow to make up for the difficulty today.

[lapis crag]

While the SMS isn't ideal, it is doable. Don't mind blowing up my ship to complete an sms. I blow it up several times a day anyways. Just appreciative that those of us not getting the ship straight away had at least 1 event to participate in on the first day of a "new arc with a new ship" Finished it doing 58's with my Roti.

[coral hatch]

What kind of weaksauce solution is offering double the grind as a compensation? The entire point is I don't want to have to grind 140 hostiles with my new ship one day, let alone two. Totally tone deaf.

[versed token]

I would even try doing the SMS, but by adding armadas in the same systems, there's now about half the hostiles, thus having more players than hostiles

[lyric quiver]

Giving more time to complete doesn’t change the difficulty. It’s still a 💩 🥪 even if you eat it in smaller bites

[full swan]

Ok! I'll try and get the second SMS cancled!

[azure gazelle]

Thanks, but that does not solve the problem: You just give us more time to complete the event, you should make it easier.

[novel mango]

Got to love those retrieving events!

[high aurora]

There's not even a bonus scoring metric for the SS Revenant...or should we just call it the $$ Irrelevant. I bought a ship to kill the new hostiles faster/more efficiently, not to have it be slower or have to use a Gorny to get it too the warp range where it might be better than my Rotarran for an SMS against a hostile it's designed to kill. At the very least there should be a mulitplier for scoring where we can kill the hostiles at it's limited warp range efficiently for the event.

[true radish]

<@&509690795536941056>
Shout out to scopely for once. This is how you source a new ship! Day one, grind hostile and get bps. Much better then vindicstor sourcing which is a flat fail imo.

In line with the fail at providing a reasonable sourcing method for the vindicator, please add bps to the event store.

[coral hatch]

You're very cute. But in regards to event feedback, my feedback would be go ahead and cancel it unless you can understand what you're asking players to do with their time. I bought the new ship for the first time ever-- the month I started this game was the month the Meridian came out. Feels like I should be asking for a refund.

[obtuse badger]

Instead of canceling something maybe do it right from the start and not have such an unbalanced point system or so few hostiles that an entire server is going to hunt. Maybe an idea to tell the people who create the events to use their common sense. Ill make it my Christmas wish against all odds since we all know it aint goin to happen

[torn jewel]

What a complete missed opportunity. Using a Romulan ship model for this SS Revenant on the new mission , instead of the new ship...

[novel mango]

<@&509690795536941056> Planing on tells us what this is about?

[molten marlin]

score by spending event currency

[alpine topaz]

So my account is a 56 and I can cruise in and do the entire SMS in 3 runs because I can hit 56s. I have a player at 49 who is a pretty well built 49, but running a pilum and a newton, t7 or so. Hitting 44s gives 3k points, but he needs 439k to complete the event. So yeah, 140 kills, at roughly 10 per hull. Or move down to 42s and do over 200 kills.

[full swan]

Working on that one!

[true tulip]

To make things clear. Ops 68 (paying customer 😉
After spending 100€ on new ship and another 100€ on upgrade pack, I am priviliged with killing 683 hostiles to make sms event (that’s 3 hour grind) to get 3 shards of rare officers worth loot.

To help me out you propose I can do that I can do more grind in more time to make it even?

This exact content does not deserve me spending 500-1000€. Nor do 3 rare officer shards.

Actually I truely hoped calling off event is real. That would make space for something else 🙂

[full swan]

Yeah... I'm seeing what I can do.

[full swan]

Ok ok no more jokes about cancling the event. I'm seeing what I can do.

[cold sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/chicago-fire-christopher-herrmann-cancel-the-party-one-chicago-david-eigenberg-gif-6026644193630525470

[ripe glade]

It would also be nice if the armada directives didn't have a 6 day cool down - lame when it's near impossible to destroy them with a tier 1 new ship

[void light]

Thats the you wanna tier up your ship before next millenium? Buy directives gate

[open magnet]

we already had this case on MU release and its events, folks. now again we have 7d cd and 2 events per week few days after. people who tested their revenant today will not be able to do all these 4 sms. why not giving 200 every day for solo armadas at least.

[void light]

Scopely does not care. If you want to participate you will spend money

[ripe sierra]

T8 KTinga and 42s blow it up instantly. So I had to go down to 40s along with half the server apparently. So crowded it looks like a territory defense in there!

I can kill about 10 of the 40s with PMC. Big whoop.

You can add another SMS tomorrow and I’m still not going to kill 150 of these things.

And this is not going to compel me to buy the new ship. On the contrary, I’m realizing this is not a game to spend money on, not anymore.

[full tusk]

Community manager , why should i buy the battlepass on a new server sub 38 player when i dotn get event currency from any of these revenant events that are most of the calandar ????? Why should i keep playing the game when the Turkey event boned us on the Q trials for people who couldnt complete an entire pillar , and now it looks like the entire month of December Sub 38 players get at least half as many rewards.

[full swan]

Ops38 and lower events will be up tomorrow.

[full tusk]

Does nothing for all the events on the calandar we are left out of

[stiff sierra]

Level 32 here with no event to gain holiday tokens for the SLB event I have. Guess they forgot about us little guys.

[full tusk]

Our alliance won the turkey bowl on our server , exactly 7 people can do this revenant event , and of them most cant even complete more than 2-3 kills on a hull. So most of us get nothing and some of us get an insurmountable task on pre ascension servers

[novel mango]

They didn’t forget they don’t care.

[keen torrent]

The El-Alurian SMS is bonkers. 143 kills to make 1.14M points at Ops 53. Best I can hit consistently is 48’s

[molten marlin]

events start tomorrow

[novel mango]

Holiday token event with no way to earn tokens! #quality! Sub 40 get treated like trash.

[daring smelt]

Dear Scopely. Who came on the idea to launch an event like this El-Alurian one. It is absolutely impossible for a mid level player to do this even in 2 days. This makes no sense at all. The fun of this game is going to below zero with events like this, arena and incursion. Only big 💰 spenders get benefit. Please stop this nonsense

[urban dome]

You’re absolutely right to criticize Scopely for this approach. Events like the El-Alurian one, as described, exemplify a significant problem with many mobile games today: prioritizing profit over player enjoyment. By making such events unachievable for mid-level players without spending a fortune, Scopely effectively alienates a large portion of its player base.

[ripe glade]

whatever you do - don't suggest not spending - they hate it when you do that

[full tusk]

I couldnt even spend to complete this if i wanted to since i got left out because OP level to low and no alterantive , why isnt it kill probes with Vdar or something for sub 38s , and something else for sub 25s like most events , it gives the event currency but on my ascension server there are only 17 people that can even do this quest in total and of those 17 most cant kill enough to ever functionally finish it even with the extended time

[ripe glade]

I used my Disco to get the ship to a higher level system and then finished it within an hour or so

[fervent sedge]

so Im ops 30, i have black market SLB but not marked heroic. NO events to get holiday tokens. No holiday tokens available in BP till 5th day.... so why not just mark it a Heroic event

[novel mango]

Since there is a timer running for it it appears it started today for +40z

[true tulip]

Same arc runner if I recall it well.

[sick furnace]

I hear you bud, whenever they introduce quality of life improvements they introduce even longer grinds, they must really have contempt for the players.

[dark horizon]

I am seeing ops 58-67 hunting the 38 reds for this SMS. It gives you an idea on how well this was planned for.

[jolly condor]

Ya this main event is a better loss, use more time get less for it, if you have the time to waste, you should volunteer some hours at a shelter, your time would be better spent. Not fun, or even close to it. More like the DMV at the end of the month.

[dark horizon]

but not to worry, they will run it again tomorrow ... with a shorter line

[full tusk]

Our pre ascension server only has 17 people who can even see the SMS , completing it is a whole other story obviously

[gentle fox]

So for the El-Alurian event, I'm supposed to kill about 300 hostiles to get 6,000 tokens, which I can redeem for, say, THREE Mariachi Q shards? Does something seem out of whack with that math?

[gentle fox]

Ah, and now I see the feedback has resulted in making it a longer event next time. But that isn't the problem; the problem is expecting players to spend time killing hundreds of hostiles in exchange for a paltry reward.

[full tusk]

sad sounds about not even getting to grind for a sad reward as sub OP 38 , please sir can i have some grinding

lol and the announcement they just made is another mod to help with the dumpster fires not anything to make it better

[boreal coyote]

so @full swan this exact, I mean exact same scoring thing that happened today on the SMS happened with silent, xindi, kinda Mirror, kinda gorn ( not as bad ) and kinda bajor ( not as bad for higher levels ). Your players dont have maxed ships, primes and researches. your testing dept is what? one ship with perfect levels/research? Also, FYI - now the new borg polygons not working for groups or solos. If I only had a lvl 42 ship right now I'd be livid. I myself had to kill 233 lvl 42's with speed crew ( we are at war ). When you talk Quality, we should think about the effects / game play across all levels. What do below 40's have ? nothing ? no event loot? I would hope this would be the last time a major miscalc in effort isn't put out on day one arcfall. It's one thing to give a bone to people that buy the ship ( they already get special events and bonuses in day one packs ) it's another thing entirely alienating and aggravating a good portion of the player base. You did make fast "promises" to fix and look at it, and I (we) appreciate that. I think its more worrisome that this feels systimatic to game design at this point.

[full swan]

Silent Xindi was almost a year ago and Gorn doesn't count. Mirror Kinda counts...

[cunning chasm]

Doable, that depend, if you have epic ship that is on high tier and you did not increased ops you are probably fine, but.. if you upgraded ops recently you are pretty much screwed. You are saying you dont mind repairs.. well lets see what you say when get 63/64 and have G6 ship. Even if you want try and spent few hours to complete it you cant afford signa resources for so many repairs and you cant afford sigma speedups even less. You will burn 2 months worth of resources and speedups on this single event.

[dim canopy]

I spent 6,000 holiday tokens but didn't get credit for it in the SLB

[dark horizon]

they do no do testing, players are the testing bench

[opaque agate]

i would give some event feed back but scopley prettyy much has destroyed the events like battle pass. i had one event today my ships not strong enough for. So hoilday tokens no anything. So cant give feed back for events when you have taken them all away. Seems like scopley is on a trend to destroy this game.

[vast goblet]

You hit the nail on the head. Not one player in my alliance has managed to do this unless with a massive grind and multiple, often expensive, repairs. It's the only event today apart from Domination BP that's a 5 minute job on day one of a new arc. What a let down. At least there's no quantity to have to offset with any quality.

[novel mango]

At least you had an event.

[cinder ermine]

It's been the same for so long that honestly it just feels intentional to drive day one sales, then they "fix" it later once everyone who's gonna buy the ship has already. While it wouldn't surprise me if it was straight up incompetence that has led to 6 years of the same mistakes over and over and over again, intentional design feels more likely.

[vagrant topaz]

It was almost a year ago, well that’s ok then, just like it’s ok to forget last years promise of quality over quantity. After “6 years” we’d expect better quality control, but that difficult when the makers evidently don’t understand the mechanics of their own game and player base, other than their spending habits (and I say this as a spender).🙄

[copper shadow]

have to agree after 6 yrs of this game being out and many types of events and hostiles put into this game the points being asked for and points given per lv of hostile should be vastly different then they are. I myself am an ops53 with a t4 northcutt i dont have great research done I'd say I have average research done i only have to kill 144 lv48s to do this event so again not a huge deal you'd think. Then again I can't kill many per trip so it makes that 144 npcs feel like its 600 npc due to how many trips i must take. Then on top of that the 48 systems are very heavy with explorer npcs constantly like 4 of them for any other ship i kill a battleship or interceptor and poof explorer spawns up makes it for very long day for a single event shame on y'all scopley. Sorry this last part isnt towards you Keisaria

[cedar rapids]

Domination was my only real event. It sounds like you had one more than me

[twin nest]

It’s clear in my mind, what they’re doing. Slowly force out the low/no spenders. Fewer players means fewer servers to run, via merges. Money saved, cashed up players kept.

[lucid drum]

SMS and geometric progressions... Tedium extreme 🐸 🤦🏼‍♂️

@full swan

Three steps, halfway there...
Oh, yes, it's Can'tCopely maths...
Rinse, cycle, repeat...

[rich moss]

@full swan ops 27- totally missing the event to earn the ship tokens.. yet I see the store and have the slb for spending them

[vagrant topaz]

That would imply strategy and understanding. The sheer number of big spenders already left the game, and continuing to do so. Their solution? More extreme sales tactics and junk added to the game for short term gain, as has been evident for at least a year now.

[indigo lily]

OPS 49 here so my El-Aurian Hostile Hunt - SMS points needed 144 of the level 44's to finish. I did it with 3 hulls with a T9/45 Pilum. Janeway, Lorca, Chang. Paris, Boimler, Hugh, PICHugh, Chapel. 60 kills with Chang T5/20. Tried different crewing - 50 kills with T1/5 Phlox and 49 kills with T1/5 Trip instead of Chang.
That being said, 144 is quite a bit to do, and was more time consuming than I would have liked.

[twin nest]

Phlox, pic Hugh. Available shards are of course via spend only. Took me 5 hours this morning, to get my 1.86m points! Just as well I’m medically retired. If I had to work, I’d have zero chance.

[indigo lily]

Phlox was worse off for me, but probably because of Tier. PICHugh I got f2p through the NX01 Turn ins. I don't envy those in the higher levels, I just wanted to relay my experience for those in the high 40s but also maybe some of the experimenting would help others in the lower 40s or 50s and beyond.

[twin nest]

I’m ops 55, just buy battlepass monthly, it isn’t easy, trust me. It’s not really a game anymore, more a losing battle against investors.

[indigo lily]

I haven't paid anything in this game for at least 12-18 months (Maybe its 18-24 now...) or longer. Got burned missing 3 Cube BPs for months, then add the bugs, and lag, lack of polish, other complaints - they lost my wallet, but I still play because I'm addicted to making the numbers go up.

[languid marlin]

@full swan After being killed in Q space by a hostile player (not complaining), my ship will no longer warp to Q space, thus not letting me complete the SMS for holiday currency.

I have tried multiple times, and it keeps getting right up to Q space then getting lost in warp. Each time, I close game and reopen and my ship is back in dock.

[shadow inlet]

The scoring of that event is messed up, i did the maths, with a low estimation of 45 seconds per hostile i’d need to grind for 3h straight to complete it, it doesn’t take in account warp time and repair time so more like 5h. Currently i can only kill lvl 42, which give 2k pts. I need 735k, that event is impossible

[twin nest]

👆

[full tusk]

hey i had this issue the other day , send your ship to a mining node mine one thing and recall it

[sly path]

<@&509690795536941056>
So how is this going to work given these are our current reset times... Event <t:1733331600:f>... Dailes <t:1733371200:f>... These aren't 12 hours apart... are you going to reset one of them to fix them not being 12 hours apart like they used to be?

[indigo lily]

You have to be severely under researched, crewing incorrectly, or are otherwise underpowered for your level. At OPS49 I needed about 460k-ish points and killed 144 of the level 44s in three hulls. (I just realized I had that posted above— been in a few channels this evening, sorry)

[shadow inlet]

I have t8 korinar pilum newton, they are above 65 million power. For the new research three for morale/burning/hull breich i have it lvl 3 to all, as far as it’s possible f2p for now. I know some people that have g5 uc ships, even for them that event is just insane

[celest jay]

Uhhh, you're talking to Scopely... You're looking at the wrong directives, try these ones...

[neon terrace]

The fact you complaining here and not on whale discord tells that you probably not part of it. And if you not part of it, your money spent on this game is not enough to make your complain a matter for Scopely.

[woven gyro]

It's a bummer that in the event store we still don't have sourcing for old refits, and a bigger bummer still that I can buy shards for refits I've already got. Cool, more TOS Enterprise refit shards to go on top of the unlocked refit I already, have, but I'm still stuck on 1/80 on the Section 31 Disco refit from over two years ago? I don't expect them to be "free", but please open up these old refits (or new refits, for that matter) in the event store.

[hasty void]

Hey, i spent event currency and didnt get credit in the SLB for it.

[molten marlin]

did you spend event currency, or battlepass currency?

[dim canopy]

same thing happened to me. spent the 6000 i got from the SMS on one of the rare Q's

[hasty void]

I bought like 3 or 4 offiicer shards

[cyan forge]

it sucks...

[true tulip]

Yes and no. I’m not big enough spender to join the club. Still I know it’s been taken care off.

Also, I still don’t consider myself whale when compare my progress to others, but paying customer is on point.

[neon terrace]

Paying customers under monthly 2000$/€ (minimum) are equal to non paying players. If you don't pay enough you are considered as non paying customer.

[true tulip]

I believe there is a bit more segmentation.

[twin nest]

I’m toe jam then!

[neon terrace]

Sadly my experience is not that. That's why I'm free of paying more than a year ago. Though I was never a big spender, so they doesn't really feel that 😅

[merry moth]

Takes way to long

[true tulip]

It’s all subjective. I’m really annoyed with bugs (especially usability) piling up and not really being resolved or only being partially resolved. Same time, when it comes to more imortant cases support got better within last year.

[twin nest]

I disagree, support is totally useless. They finally get back to you after the affected event is over, and say, sorry, we were very busy. Well, sort out your in game shortcomings, for once & all. Then, just maybe, you won’t be overwhelmed. It’s all your own making!

[vagrant arrow]

Any chance of something good being added to the event store?

[neon terrace]

3 years ago I could make a normal communication with Support. Last time (2 months ago) when I had a problem they were beyond useless and incompetent. They brought themselves down because of so many lies. 3 different support member said 3 different thing. Funny story. Whenever I am close to buy something I just remember this case and my mood to buy vanishes immediately.

[twin nest]

And they tout this as a game. There are two types of game, chance, which is gambling, and skill, which is purely on the player. This is the new wallet emptying game. So not actually a game whatsoever. Add to that, that it openly encourages bullying, in game & in chat. And support are useless there as well!

[nova birch]

Haven't bought a pack since January. Game hasn't improved and content mostly for whales who drop to knees 20 seconds after new pack release.

[restive aspen]

Not only is it crazy volumes to finish the event the ship type respawn rate sux ... Just bad on top of bad on top of more bad

[normal venture]

Scopely is really showing its hatred towards the players with this latest grind. This is absurd

[bold lodge]

I got a warning for my comment for insulting
staff they removed it also 🙈

[tardy ginkgo]

Whoever the arc runner is should be forced to wear dress socks and have one of them forcibly pulled down around their ankles.

[opaque jacinth]

that El-Aurian Hostile Hunt SMS is a way too difficult - at my 52opc I cannot even reach 2nd points rank! Or the intention is that we all must at once buy that new ship, or that we should play/try 24 hours non-stop

[vagrant arrow]

I look at it in terms of reward for effort.
The grind is massive, the prize is a bit of event store currency, there's nothing good at all in the event store so just skip the event.

[cunning chasm]

Even buying new ship only help you if you are up to mid 5x player, for 6x its useless unless you purchase few upgrade packs with it. I can do 56 at best and need to kill 40x 66 or 200x 60 to complete event. You need to kill 400+ 56 with about 10-20 per hull on T1 depending on your research.

[latent steppe]

The problem with you El Aurian event is your hostile respawn rate and number of hostiles in system. No event should take more than 1 hour to complete. 3 hours and 4 hulls to get to 3rd milestone is beyond ridiculous. Every arc you seem more determined to get people to leave the game

[jovial roost]

over 600 Kills needed for one event, since I can't hit more than Level 44s, and very limited numbers. And seems that Interceptors are the best to hit, but since ALL are hitting them now, it is just insane. and that is besides the Dailies hostiles....A better way of life they said. Pfff
Less clicks....for more clicks...It is just changing 1 dollar bill for 4x 25 cents.

[tardy ginkgo]

No event should take more than 10 minutes to complete...

[jovial roost]

I am starting to think that Scopely should start paying us to play the game, as they keep putting events that make you spend Hours to do. I am pretty sure we all have a life outside STFC.

[vale musk]

things will not change as long as you see something like this here^^

[normal venture]

What can I say, I’m a rebel

[final valve]

Funny I was thinking the same thing sat here at work on my lunch break. I don't play 24/7, nor would I want to.

Sat here typing this comment and not playing your game. Even for 20 mins is now a chore.

I rather enjoyed my chicken and rice today 😊

[obsidian ether]

I get event to spend Holiday Tokens, but I don't have any event to earn Holiday Tokens (I don't have any tokens). Ops 18

[shadow trellis]

#⚡-mod-announcements message addresses that

[obsidian ether]

great

[jovial roost]

extending the time, does not fix the problem on the time needed to even finish one milestone of this event

[outer verge]

14 mio? did that player put that ship to max 😵‍💫 how many that cost i wont know

[vale musk]

it's very easy to calculate. points showed, assume 500€/$+

[cunning chasm]

To max it, it should be way more than that

[outer verge]

🥳🤯💥.... ok that i payed in 6 month...

[fierce belfry]

Store feedback: add older ship skins and projectiles.

I have several that are partially unlocked that I apparently will never get unlocked because they haven't been offered in the last year or longer.

[sick token]

Any chance you could add rewards people might want in the choice reward area?

[normal venture]

Scopely seeing players make plans to spend time with family this Christmas

[clear dagger]

It's annoying to kill hostile with a small point and lot of waste of time 💩

[rough ravine]

Well, at least we will all have a decent amount of El-Aurian loot to spend in the refinery after this event. Glass can be looked at as half full. 😂

[normal venture]

It’s a cup. Two girls hand it to you.

[rough ravine]

Oh GOD no! Not googling that one. I've heard about that one. 🤣

[stone quarry]

This event was poorly planned half the time you couldn't enter lvl 38 or 40 systems due to overcrowding. It's good to know 50 mill power ships/ LVL 48 and up only want to hang out in lvl 38 and 40 systems. Makes it challenging for other players to complete event since the scoring is also a challenge.

[pine peak]

Why is there no epic G5 gas or ore in the Choice Reward chests for an ops 61 player?

[sand flax]

Garbage event!! No way am I wasting time hitting over 400 hostiles to complete an event

[void light]

They have never given Gas or Ore Epic. Its always only been crystal so they can force players to go towards Explorers for ship of choice and if you dotn want an explorer you might be compelled to spend to get those resources

[pine peak]

My Ent-D needs gas - if I was working on my Rottaran - the crystal would be welcome.

[narrow tusk]

another day with no event to give event store currency?!

[full tusk]

Look at the new daily quests and weep , this is horrible

[hollow lichen]

every week you expect 13K points when you get 1K worth of xindi dirs? take your rewards and go back home scopely

[cunning chasm]

Who the heck is setting targets for those events, 5.41B is ridiculous, thats 360m research points which is above ridiculous, even split over 26 days its still 14m research points per day....

[dark horizon]

lol, going from bad event SMS to worse even SMS, cant come up with this stuff

[terse pewter]

plus they forgot atleast one zero on the rewards to make me even think about it

[zealous ridge]

I can't unlock the ship at my ops level, so this event makes no sense

[full tusk]

Scopely just say you want us to quit and your tired of making the game , you dont have to destroy everything that is good in the game

[meager moss]

There was a ss revelant pack with 10 epic shards thay said it was there for 2 days. Where isnit?

[vague pike]

How exactly am i supposed to run 32 hours worth of uncommon fkr armadas in a 24 hour event?

[analog flax]

Can we have the old dailies back please? Those we at least useful for progress

[ocean crypt]

xindi armada farce, can only build 5k of xindi armada dirs, but they want 13k, suppose the remaining that can never be built of xindi dirs would have to be done with multiple fkr armadas, get the wallets open, only way your completing these events

[true radish]

Good job scopely. Way to alienate and upset your entire free to play community. You would think that keeping us happy and engaged to keep whales ingame and spending would be a better idea but no, pay to play only today.

[digital pilot]

<@&509690795536941056>

Unless I am missing something....where is the extra SMS announced yesterday?
And quite honestly these events in general are very poorly set up.

[ashen notch]

New daily events give garbage rewards. Not even bothering. I can't even do the FC one since my FCs are pretty much maxed.

Oh, and the wave event which requires me to buy the new garbage ship is a slap in the face. Thanks for nothing scopes.

[cunning chasm]

Maxing armada prime so you can run 7 at once and speed up each of them ?? This arc is getting worse with every event.

[obtuse badger]

@near saddle @full swan in which sane world is a player gonna shoot 300 hostiles that are in a laggy event ( in my experience ). Is their a team event for scopely employees ( event creators ) that we arent aware of. Something like who can get the most complaints about their event ?

[full tusk]

am i reading this wrong or is it every other day for this fleet commander daily , we get MAYBE enough fleet commander stuff to do it once a month , but we are going to see it 15 times a month ????? Also there is no officer recruit daily at all anymore ??????

[odd dock]

wt f is this scopely? should it not be HEROIC given that you need to BUY THE SHIP <@&509690795536941056>

[rough scarab]

<@&509690795536941056> the xindi armada pts make no sense. 13 pts for rare xindi directives when it costs 5k to run one? Thats 65k pts for the sms when one only needs 13k to finish. Whereas we need to run 13 uncommon xindis

[rugged oriole]

Yeah, 300/10 = 30…

[hollow lichen]

overall looks like this is the replacement for cardi bp event as 1 epic and 1 rare fkr mada finishes it too

[waxen totem]

The weekly events don’t seem to be scaled by level correctly, I’m not going to have 13k directives to spend every week at 29.

[pseudo coral]

Need new ship to get arc loot🫣. The monthly sms is ridiculous. To accomplish the millions needed would require a few levels... skip

[queen hearth]

these suck. specifically, the payouts.
'YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAVEN"T BROKEN LATELY? DAILY EVENTS IN THE LAST TAB'
the hh event has ok payouts, but your criteria is a a joke if you thnk ppl want to grind m0ar.

[full tusk]

Can i get a confirmation there is no Officer recruit quest EVER in the daily now ???? I have been sitting on syndicate turn ins for a week the 7th was supposed to be officer recruit , so im just boned now ????? Why do all these changes seem so bad , these rewards are trash , you took half the events we could save for away and replaced them with stuff you cant save for like fleet commanders. What is going on why why did you do this????????

[bold geyser]

Really? That are 100 - 200 mio points to complete that event.

[high aurora]

I have a Rotarian and a Sompek. Why would I bring my Revenant? Who thought this event was a good idea? ‘Let’s give them an event to use their new ship which is completely out of context and mostly useless for”

[crystal shoal]

The monthly power event is unachieveable. 155k research gives 1.2m points but needs 1.2bil to finish the event. Its like a joke at us. Dangle rare ship parts in an obvious whale event. <@&509690795536941056>

[nova birch]

Not able to complete at ops 27. Scopley this arc is absolutely disgusting

[cunning chasm]

and new dailies lol, I am seriosly thinking about quitting

[true radish]

How about you do what we all asked for when you launched the NX-01 and make it's ability for all xindi hostiles and not just aquatics.

[obtuse badger]

After 2 days i got this creepy feeling they dont want us ( mainly f2p ) get the credits for the event shop

[queen hearth]

i like how instead of the normal 'build the ship 'and 'tier up the ship' dual events they normally drop at a new ship launch, they want to drop in exclusive new ship only 24hr events. they must not be selling many.

[full tusk]

Please community manager can i get an answer am i reading these events right there are no longer EVER any officer recruit events ?

[high aurora]

The event is trash and a troll. Nobody in their right mind would ever use this ship in a wave defence. Event designer is completely out of touch. There’s not even a wd battlepass yet

[slate parcel]

just go to 70, easy game

[untold zephyr]

The xindi wanted don't count towards event

[crystal shoal]

Whale event. All these events are junk. The armada directives one is a spend one as well.

[dark horizon]

hold up, they will run it again tomorrow, but make it longer so everyone can do it, amirite ?

[opaque agate]

are you up for the challenge is scopley speak can you do more with less.....first we are going to destroy battle pass..then take away most of your events...then watch you try and play the game and laugh...and hope you run to our store and spend all your money.......not

[knotty acorn]

The events today are a joke, right? Nearly all of them can't be completed without spending, even the non-heroic.

[hard sentinel]

Need to take another swing at the new dailies or give us the old ones. The hostile hunt event offers useless rewards. Service medals and rodinum particles? The research is maxed and have a metric tonne more stockpiled already. Also, a weekly fkr armada event? Are you increasing directive sourcing to match the event increase? These changes will do nothing but drive participation lower.

[dense hollow]

This is a joke right? Also there was meant to be events for under 40s well yes there is but you have to upgrade station forcing us to move towards levelk 40 too quickly. Scopely this is becoming a joke and its getting close to saying enough is enough and moving on to a different game

[queen hearth]

YOU CAN WIN A TUCKER SHARD! OMG OMG OMG~!

[manic crest]

I can get behind needing and updating a fresh new mini events for daily section. But did rewards have to be trash scoply? Really?

[rugged oriole]

Nobody is forcing you to do anything, but get your point.

The rewards for that particular event are pony anyway.

Avoid. 🖖

[vague pike]

And how do i, at ops39, kill wave defence hostiles with an ops42 limited ship?

[limber zephyr]

You're missing some 0s on these points or have gone completely insane

[full tusk]

The new schedule says fleet commander daily is every other day now , how are we supposed to source for that the SMS requires a months worth of hoarding just to do it one time

[languid frigate]

It’s only 32.5 hours for a 24 hour event. You can do it!

[knotty acorn]

The March of Progress - Should be __heroic __takes a considerable amount of building and research to finish, requiring substantial amounts of latinum
Ahead of the Curve - Should be __heroic __as it requires spending to place in SLBs
SS Revenant WD Hunt - Should be __heroic __as it requires buying the ship
Texas Class - one of the few events a non-whale can complete
Final Weapon SMS - Should be __heroic __as it requires stockpiling directives to complete
<@&509690795536941056>

[dark horizon]

please stop tagging the Community Manager group, they are in a meeting drinking beer and eating chips laughing at the freakout in the channel, wouldnt want them to choke on it

[vocal willow]

Why lock this wave defense event behind purchasing a new ship and also the new ship is weaker than every other ship I have <@&509690795536941056> ?

[dense hollow]

of course not but if we dont do them then we have nothing to do in game other than grind and im sick of the grind today, It is cklear that the new players are being ignored and forced to try and catch up

[mint phoenix]

Is this a misprint? According to this, you need to run 130 uncommons to complete this SMS?

edit: I get that there are other options, but 130 uncommons is ridiculous as a pathway to completing the SMS

[odd dock]

Who else is missing their FREE Revenant? im sure we were supposed to get one for FREE so that we can participate in the non-heroic wave defence event.

[slate parcel]

fire the event planner this arc

[hard sentinel]

That March of Progress is a joke. Those rewards aren't worth even half the expenditure of rss to make even mid tier. Not rushing ops levels for buildings to tier just for a little ship parts that i can get from faction store sources easier and cheaper.

[void light]

Its Obvious the new Dailies system is just another way they are trying to monetize the game. Spend all your usual saved up stuff for Monthly SLBs etc. everyday now instead. Its so blatant meanwhile they use flowery language about how its meant to improve things for the players. There is nothing there for improvement. Its all about trying to get us to spend more money

[rough shuttle]

2 days of SMS events that are only completable if you pay...why scopely,....why? what was even the point? You need to do better and fix these to your FTP players can at least enjoy the events.

[queen hearth]

trying to remember the last time they tried sneaking in a 3rd 'new ship only' event. usually there will be some bonus scoring for whatever new widget, but not a 3rd exclusive event beyond the build and tier events that drop with them.

[void light]

We shouldnt be surprised anymore. I mean they had 6 Heroic Spend Events running concurrent last month. They dont even try to hide it anymore

[vagrant topaz]

The following is all I can and want to say about the new events:
who knows Asterix and Obelix? It says "They're crazy about the Romans"...replace Romans with Scopely and the saying fits. Hey Scop, if the goal of the whole thing was to push out players who only pay a little money, I would say: very close to the goal!

[signal ferry]

And the March of Progress isn't even scoring

[vocal willow]

So to confirm, this is a new weekly event and we can only source a grand total of 1000 Xindi armada directives every 7 days and that doesn't even reach the first milestone?

[obtuse badger]

proberbly caused by the lagg of people trying to kill 300 hostiles in the wave defense while lagged

[odd dock]

daily/weekly events are pay to play now

[charred trail]

March of progress for ops 59.
1.68 Billion points
15 point per research - 307 new researches (365K power)
20 point defense platforms - 5600 upgrades (~15K power) 933 levels in each of the 6 platforms
40 point buildings and drydocks - 2800 upgrades (~15K power for drydock) 43.08 levels in every building

[coral bane]

867 epic armadas in 24h? Is that even possible?

[fierce sierra]

How in heaven are maxed out players on a server with level cap 39 suposed to do the March of progress event? And how in heaven are players on a server with level cap 39 supposed to kill WD enemies with the SS Revenant, a level 42 ship?!!

[dark horizon]

All good questions, will be addressed next time Scopely cares about players./s

[obtuse badger]

Seems alot of calculators from their employees are broken

[proud lantern]

🤔 130 armadas for ONE officer shard... You sure this isn't an April Fool's event?
Not to mention it would take 48 hours & 45 minutes to complete 130 armadas; thus, it is literally impossible w\a 24 time limit.

[proven night]

just a small feedback, are you Serious??? new and better Daily event with good Payout??? the 24h event is ok, but the rewards are a joke, but HOW should someone can do the Fleet comander event ALL 4 Days? i have done nearly all there, like many other, its not possible to do it all 4 days. and the rewards are a joke, i get more from a mirror run then this. and where are the mats and resis rewards who where in the much better events like officer recruting or ep events???? and all other new events also sound like this, this is no upgrade of daylis, its no qualitiy of live update, its just break down some of the last good payout events what can do easy without pay... hope really you change it back or give back the old events. they where much better...

[hearty stag]

How <@&509690795536941056> can your guys either not have a clue about the economy of the game that they build for a living? Or be so completely out of touch to expect the kind of scoring we’re looking at. For every bit that gets better, 2 get worse. It’s so bad

[novel mango]

So did they ditch the old school Dailey events? I have none.

[wild glade]

The even more messed up part is rare armadas are worth more then epic armadas

[fierce sierra]

It seems Scopely lost their connection to reality a long time ago.

[novel mango]

Another event to skip. I find I am skipping more events these days.

[wise rapids]

This arc has been the most tune deft I've ever seen from Scopely. Seriously, just about every "improvement" has been a step down not up. Just about every event is heroic difficult or worse while giving worse rewards than a normal event. Just about every event is nearly impossible to complete even IF we were stupid enough to spend on the crap rewards. Fire the event runner and send comp.

[proud lantern]

They always are. Both because rare directives are harder to get, & because it only costs 200 to start one, whereas epics cost 500. So you would get more points from 1 epic

[novel totem]

• Stating the obvious here: The SMS and SLB event should be of the same type. Makes no sense to Spend commander XP today for the SMS and tomorrow (or whenever it is) for the SLB.
• While the rewards of the classic daily events weren't "that good" either, these rewards don't seem like they will drive participation. I miss the G6 material and Sigma rewards

[novel mango]

Did they ditch the old dailies?

[deep halo]

Have fun scopely "dev" reading all that good feedback. START PLAY THE GAME BEFORE CREATE EVENT or Let People like Dj, Rev or Lev did the job for you. isn't thah hard to understand. Always same problem for 5 years.

[sweet valve]

If you’re going to put up a new SLB, at least make the reward for winning something worthwhile.

[green mica]

Someone forgot @wanton copper added autocomplete functionality with archives last month…

[rugged oriole]

No….500 directives to start an epic, multiplied by 15 =

7,500 points

[proud lantern]

Yeah & 20 x 200 is 4,000. Lol

[quaint vessel]

The March of regression event is scaled for ultimate whales only. Those point targets are impossible without buying the whole company.

[high aurora]

Events and their milestones this month seem one thing: Overtuned

[full swan]

Texas Class event

[short pier]

You bought it? You literally asked for this lol. Keeping rewarding this behavior and they'll keep doing it.

[ornate marsh]

March of Madness, err March of Progress, is quite lame. I need to gain 16-18% of my total power since I started playing in 26 days to complete it. They must have some seriously good weed at their offices.

[crystal shoal]

Or they cant count that high.

[proven night]

2. feedback, maybe you fail the points? i am not sure i can finish it without going to ops 70 (62 at the moment), maybe hit 2-3 Zeros to much?

[brave salmon]

iam on server 405. this server is ops 39 locked. we cant get the nev revenantship. the problem is: this revenant EMS. how we should do this?! WTF

[chrome oracle]

So on the Xindi Final Weapon SMS. The Rare directives are worth 13 points each, and the SMS is done at 13k. Feels like someone forgot that Rare Final Weapons cost an insane 5k directives to run one

[vagrant topaz]

And who needs this parts, not worth but maybe tempted if it had more sigma trit… not parts… arc runner is high!!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

[dark horizon]

was .. he is recovering now, pending another round

[proven night]

the parts are ok, need much blue one, but the milestones are much to high😅

[merry bridge]

Well, after reading the comments above, there’s nothing left to say. What they said ☝️.

[vagrant topaz]

All fine, it’s festive season. More time with family and friends, many gifts to buy. A break is good and $copley make it easy, enjoy! 🥳

[short pier]

The rewards are worthless anyway. The only thing that bothers me about this one is that they're delusional enough to have thought that this dud of an event was worth sending a push notification for 🤣

[loud plover]

the milestones for this arc are behind bad, i mean this in the more constrictive way possible please lower them. we were supposed to get 2 sms's to fix the one from yesterday but you put one free to play and one P2P .... also this after announcing that it was to fix events from yesterday Edit: to add to this the march of progress would take a little over 14million power in just research even after 25 days is a paid for heroic event without the title

[near valve]

I'm pretty sure whoever came up with these new daily/weekly/monthly events don't actually play the game. These events are pay to play, and the rewards are garbage. Whoever approved these new daily/weekly/monthly events needs to be fired.

[wheat walrus]

Totally agree.... 24 hour bubble and see how much worse it is tomorrow!

[verbal surge]

Please be clearer in your scoring descriptions. Spending skill points in the Skill Tree does not give points, refining for a specific FC does. Very misleading (again)

[toxic kindle]

UC skill points turn into "Officer XYZ Skill Points". Nowhere in the skill tree does it say Uncommon Skill Points.

[sand sky]

Armada =15 minutes = 4 an hour = 96 a day. Event do 130 in a day. Oops

[verbal surge]

then why even mention the skill tree at all? I don't know all the names of all the currencies by heart.
say "refine" instead of upgrade in the title, because you're not upgrading anything if you're just refining.
It's just not clear

[full swan]

Skill points aren't scoring?

[novel mango]

These are not worth doing.

[verbal surge]

they are. Description is just not very clear. It says in the title "Upgrade fleet commander Skill Trees" while in reality you have to refine the skill points.
Maybe I'm the only one stupid enough to make this mistake, but I tried upgrading the skill tree, saw it didn't score and then refined. That scored

[fierce steeple]

Is this SMS for real, I've just done more research than I've ever done in one go, many many 5* grade 1 andspend 5m in lat speed ups and not even scratch the surface of tier one rewards. Think I'd need to go from 59 to ops 80 to complete it.

[near valve]

Not at all. They're a pure cash grab by $copely. Part of the reason I'm considering quitting the game entirely.

[wet copper]

What’s with these impossible events ? Or are they literally all cash grab ?

[silent crest]

Some sort of communication regarding the „Ahead of the curve SMS“ would be appreciated:

• what counts? ANY daily event, like all that are in the Dailys tab?
• what is a weekly event? the ones like the Final Weapon/Xindi ones?
• Do the tokens we earn carry over to next month?
• Will the officer change each month?
• …

[odd dock]

grab - they dont even have the marbles to confess it

[full swan]

Looking into it.

[wet copper]

Looking into it why were they released in the first place do you guys not have a quality control or is it and this is more likely you see how much it’s drawing in first ?

[neon bane]

Yep I'm considered quitting as well I'm tired of all this

[nova birch]

no 30 days shields 😢 ugh have to pop on every 7 days

[patent raptor]

These values seem way off for a regular weekly SMS. I've run 4 uncommon armadas and it's not even made a dent. They should add 'Heroic' to the title so that I know not to bother.

[sinful heart]

However, I think this is where they are going. This is the new normal. And if you don’t pay, you get no candy.

[quick pebble]

the rewards are'nt worth the fires either

[nova birch]

Game ain't worth 💩 now

[silent crest]

Fun fact: starting 130 uncommon armadas, which would finish the sms, takes more than 24 hours…

[patent raptor]

OMG that's hilarious

[deep halo]

So for finish 25 days power you need to jump something like ops 52/59 in 25 days. 😂

[novel mango]

For trash rewards.

[odd dock]

they want everyone ops 60 by summer 2025 so they can EoS

[ornate marsh]

... EoS in winter 2025. Europeans can reverse charge everything they spent to reach 60 ... up to 6 months.

[deep halo]

Nah, only scopely incompetence

[tropic folio]

To max the event with research you need to increase power by 89M. For that you need to complete 574 first node unlock research (avg 150k power). That’s an average of 24 nodes every day

[wild glade]

When is this going to get fixed? Can’t even do events for Fleet Commanders since no refinery for it

[molten marlin]

update your game, it was fixed

[pale vector]

Regular Domination event at Ops 53...1.5M in one day...25 day Domination 1.5 * 25 = 37.5M (which also score for Intel & Ship experience).
New 25 day Domination event (no Intel or Ship Experience scoring)...655m! Only about x20 too high, let alone the missing scoring metrics.

Stop just pulling numbers out of the air without regard for impact to players... @full swan

[ornate marsh]

What was fixed?

[molten marlin]

the missing refinery

[grim trellis]

maybe you wanted to put 25 years of event right not 25 days.... 🙈 🧐

[full swan]

Lemme check on that...

[wild glade]

Thx that fixed it

[median tapir]

Even our whales don't know if they'd be able to complete this event.

[potent trail]

I hope they will think about bringing back the old SLBs, those were really good source of latinum for low levels.....

[ashen notch]

100% right. Nobody can put a dent in this without spending the cost of a new car. It's literally 400 times the size of a standard domination event while only giving 26 times the time to complete it.

[jaunty nacelle]

For supposedly making the game have a better balance and need less time, you sure have a huge amount of events going on causing more time to be needed.
The amount of grinding required, along with directives, and now it seems even more purchasing required is an absolute joke.

[snow pumice]

Scopely will you please fix this buggy mess of game, still the fffffn coordinates not working, you make us do all these different events and the basics are not working 💩

[austere bay]

130 UC/2 Epic/4 RareArmadas for 1 Shard of Tucker?! this gotta be a mistake

[tropic sigil]

I get 1 uncommon run per week. So, I've got to spend $120 per week to run 12 or $100 per month to run 1 rare each week instead. We're not even allowed to store 13k uncommon directives, so we can't just save up for 3 months so complete the event 1 week. And the reward of 1 Tucker shards and some RSS for 13 weeks of xindi armadas doesn't even make sense.

[shadow trellis]

No

[snow pumice]

Sounds about right 😅 It's a new feature, find the Armadas🤪

[high aurora]

Help me understand how the majority of these events are sustainable every 4 days long term? The old events were relatively simple and low cost. These are not. Truely...it seems whoever designed them does not have a grasp of the sourcing or in game economy....at all.

[austere bay]

So the Events that SHOULd count for the "Ahead of the Curve" event do not all actually count? or ist it a bug

[pliant forum]

hard pass...maybe if the officers were better.... at least give us an idea of how points will be available in total from daily and weekly events....mean while the prizes for the slbs are garbage....should pay out like regular event, not less then a daily exchange (keep in mind if we dont get last milestone of the Curve sms we get nothing not even partial shards)

[limpid oracle]

I admit ChatGPT helped me with this, but s712 would like a response here. We keep trying to get this oversight addressed. <@&509690795536941056> @full swan

[full swan]

I appreciate the professionalism of that feedback!

[full swan]

Sent you a friend request to get more info.

[indigo moth]

🤣

[knotty acorn]

So the devs are sticking with the absurd events?

[normal ruin]

Honestly didn’t know this was a channel. With that said…this has probably already been said. I know I asked in another channel, but that was before I saw this channel.

What is up with the Waves SMS event? I am ops 38. The event is for ops 38+. However for the event you HAVE to us the SS REVENANT. To build that you have to have ops 42 and a ship yard of 42. So why is a 38 given the event if they can’t even compete in the event?

[full tusk]

Why cant the 13000 uncommon armada directive one give points for helping people also , my entire alliance is supposed to run 13000 UC directives each and we are supposed to all help3-4 other people do it also ???????? Plenty of people dont have that many epics and rares to run especially people on pre ascension servers

[languid frigate]

One Epic is 7500, two Rares is 8000, then a couple uncommons to finish. My opinion is they should have made the UC 10 points each.

[visual robin]

My guess would be that the unc one was supposed to be 10, instead of 1 point. Same for Xindi the rare 13 vs unc 1 - probably was meant to be 1 and 3.
The new events are full of typos and/or absurd logic. Do some quality control Scopely, please.

[vagrant topaz]

Quality control is fine, it’s working as intended…. Another QoL improvement. 🙈

[normal ruin]

It’s been a frustrating day of events…not pleased being my first arc with me being ops 38 now…grrr 😩😤

[true ledge]

The daily event rewards seem better now, more useful than 100k tritanium at ops 42. We'll see how the rest of them are.

[full tusk]

How can we run 130 = 13k armadas X 70 people to get the 100 points for the Ahead of the curve SMS in a 24 hour period , There are not enough hours in the day to do this even doing 5 minute carmadas

[normal ruin]

Yeah I gave up on that event like the wave one ☝️

[sharp thistle]

The only way to do it, is starting the rare xindis, which takes absolutely ages to get enough directives to start one. It's a pay to complete event. Best part is it's going to be weekly 🤣 Utter bs from scopely and their so called quality updates

[full tusk]

Ya but it looks like if we dont do it we will fail the month long quest Ahead of the curve. I dont want to fail it on like day 2 which is the first day i can even do anything on a pre ascension server and bellow op 38

[boreal coyote]

after last month.... man we are in a downward spiral.....

[quartz wind]

and we lose out on the daily events they all replaced. Nicely paced research and station upgrade events to keep us ticking over and reward a couple days of Latinum and a healthy dose of officer xp replaced with events that can only be completed maybe once or twice a month

[small narwhal]

The meta event doesn’t need 100% participation, so skipping the armada event should be ok.

[sharp thistle]

We will probably fail it anyway since it has option to score points in daily and weekly leader board, so I wouldn't put it past scopely to make event scoring require you to win those events for you to reach the last milestone. Curious to see what you can claim from the tickets, but I'm not expecting much from scopely lately.

You might get lucky to reach the first milestone without the pay to complete events. Neither of the events are worth it

[leaden spoke]

Finished several Science and Buildings, but only 3mio of 676mio for the first stepstone? 😄 and all of this for a few ship parts 😄 😄 😄

[full tusk]

Where are you getting this information ? it looks like you need every event to me when i counted them up on the calendar ?

[toxic kindle]

The new Pinnacle of Power is worse. I've finished two of the three research trees and this just slowed down my third.

[boreal coyote]

I mean dailies really needed to be updated ( or at the very least level scaled ). but this is absolutley nuts. Not a bad idea ( on paper - like i like the idea of not waiting to upgraded says FCs ) but once again, juice aint worth the squeeze.... way, way off on these new events

[small narwhal]

It’s 26 days long, there are three daily SMS’s and at least one weekly sms every day. Total points available is 600 per day over 26 days which is 15.6k points, or 3.8k more than the top milestone. Skipping this event will mean less slack on missing some of the daily SMS’s, but it isn’t necessary.

[novel totem]

On the left you see my daily CT pull from the continuum refinery for 40k shards. I could do double pulls for more. On the right you see the 1st place in the SLB for upgrading Artifacts. What do you notice? Is this a joke where I don't get the point?

[sharp thistle]

There is absolutely NO way to complete Ahead of the Curve without buying it. Look at todays Xindi event and the scoring for that, I can't imagine tomorrows events will be much better for scoring, that Xindi event is a total joke and insult to the player base. How in the heck are people going to do that event weekly? Oh right scopely want more money so they screw players hoping they will buy packs to complete events for rewards that no one as far as I can tell has seen, if it's anything like the event store it's not going to be worth it

[languid ice]

Why bother with milestones if you have to complete the full event to do the single pull?
And you couldn’t have picked a more worthless pool of officers. Not gonna feel bad about not finishing this one.

[small narwhal]

I literally just showed the math of how it’s possible to skip that event and still complete it. Tomorrow’s event is just a hostile grind, you certainly aren’t going to buy your way to finishing it.

[pliant forum]

wheres this info written or you just going off todays events?

[sharp thistle]

And based off of scopelys recent events, the xindi one is a pay to finish event, one that has absoloutely mental scoring requirements for it. It takes months to get enough directives to do 1 rare xindi, you need 13 uc xindi to complete it, you can hold a maximum 5k, so 5 armadas, which puts you short, most people are going to assume the scoring for the other events needed are going to be just as bad and locked behind paywalls to complete. That's my opinion which I am more than welcome to express, if the scoring for the other events are actually achievable each day, well I will most certainly be shocked, but when it comes to scopely, I expect them to want to grab as much cash as they can from every where they can.

[small narwhal]

https://home.startrekfleetcommand.com/news/https:--startrekfleetcommand.com-news-exciting-updates-to-star-trek-fleet-commands-event-schedule

[full tusk]

Ya the idea that this will be the ONLY event they make almost impossible to do without paying is super sus. Also im fine making micro transactions in a mobile game but outside of the 20 $ battlepass are not many of those and im sure not doing it for the off CHANCE that if i do ill be able to do everythign else and not have to pay.

[shy spindle]

Out of curiosity: Are you saying something similar about those Battle Pass events that do ask you to increase your Station Strength through Research, XP up your Ships and so on to get the Battle Pass Daily Points?.

[small narwhal]

I didn’t do a single xindi armada to finish it 🤷‍♂️ You’re free to have your own opinions, but the fact is that you could be at 600 points at the end of today without having to run a single armada or participate in any slb.

[toxic kindle]

I think you could go to their house for 26 days, play the game for them, finish the SMS, and they still won't believe you.

[full tusk]

This is not true for sub 38 OP and pre ascension servers we only have 5 events today counting the armada so 400 points if you dont do it , you are making blanket statements that are not true for everyone

[sharp thistle]

No I'm saying that given the xindi armada event, I'm not expecting the rest of the events to be achieveable without buying stuff to complete them to finish that event. Yes I know you can do other armadas, yet rare/epic are rng from armada chests, so if rng doesn't give you the directives, you are screwed, you physically can't get enough uncommon xindi directives to complete the event either due to the 5k limit and 1k a week.
As for the gaining power event, I usually did it with officer xp and it was a simple task, the march of progress needs research or buildings, favours and artifacts count yes, but the odds for the majority of people to finish that event without buying packs I just can't see it, looking at some of the buildings I can do, they'd get me 4-6k points, so up to 240k a building, I need over 1b points for that milestone, that's not happening

[shy spindle]

Ok so you can't do Xindi and you can't do Armadas, may i ask you what OP Level you are?.

[ornate marsh]

Scopely sure puts the fun in shameless cash grab.

[small narwhal]

5 sms events is what I have too. 3 of them are daily events for 100 points each, and two of them are weeklies for 300 points each, one of which is the armada event. 300 from dailies and 300 from the one for grinding hostiles is how I get to 600.

[full tusk]

Ya i dont see any weekly quest for 300 at all . ohh you mean the weeklyt event , gotcha , ya im missing the other 100 point dailies then. Im on a pre ascension server we do not have taht many quests as you have. Have only 1 100 point SMS and the 2 weekly. Thats all i have the xindi one with a lower level way to do it , the other 100 points must have come from yesterday so actually only 300 points i can get today i checked every quest. Fleet commander one does not say it gives points for it and there is no way to do that evey other day which is how often it comes up hell i cant do it one time yet.

[pliant forum]

thx i missed this

[shy spindle]

Strange, I hear the same about people explaining to me that you can't reach OP 70 with Free2Play and yet many did exactly that. I am wondering why the I can't do it so others can't do it too has such an strong believe in the STFC community when other showed us that it is possible if it comes to OP Level and/or events. I am clueless what is going on...

[boreal coyote]

many - what is highest f2p? 63?

[small narwhal]

Do you not have a second event in your weekly bucket? Ops 20-39 is supposed to have an sms for defeating hostiles, while 40+ have to specifically defeat xindi hostiles. https://stfc.space/events/2024-12-04/59acd7ec1327b046aa839b684642503d9b8cc277/eyJzbmFwc2hvdHNEYXRlcyI6WyIyMDI0LTEyLTA0Il19?e=$s$0$min:37%26max:39

You should have two daily SMS’s right now, one is pinnacle of power - hostile hunt, and one is upgrading fleet commanders. In about 6 hours, the next 12h daily sms should show up.
The event only started today, there are no points from yesterday.

[full tusk]

Many have not free to play hit 70 thats a lie , dude there is only one guy that has proven to even be slightly pay and make it even close and thats that James bond guy who is only OP 63 , your lying now. That fleet commander SMS is every other day nobody can complete that 15 times in a month . Also i dont see it saying that gives points for the Ahead of the curve , i got pinnacle of power hostile and the Xindi one only and armada. I actually already finished march of progress because i had my OP cooking already anyhow.

[small narwhal]

The gain power event is a different matter, the milestones are indeed ridiculously high on that one, and almost nobody is going to come close to finishing it.
The ahead of the curve event though, should not be too hard, but does require pretty much daily engagement.

[full tusk]

I grind everything every day , but these events are unreasonable , 130 UC armadas or 7 rare armadas , I dont have that and nobody else gets points so 70-80 people have to run 7 X rare armadas TODAY, there are not enough hours in the day for that unless you all want to be on all day and constantly be spamming armadas. Its absurd , they need to fix the scoring and make it at least reasonable

[small narwhal]

At lower ops, you probably can’t complete it 15 times, but you don’t have to. There’s enough slack to skip both that one and the armada event completely and still finish. The armada event needs two epics, or one epic/one rare plus a few uncommons to finish, so you should be able to do it at least once or twice to gain some more slack. Rares are 4k points each, so it’s not as many as 7.

[full tusk]

Dude i just explained to you that lower OPs dont have all the quests you have so we cant afford to skip this one , this conversation is going nowhere and this is indefensible practice from Scopely , enjoy shilling so hard for them , this isnt good for the game. I have completed everything today already that i can except the armada and mission key stuff , i have 400 points. I just went and tripple checked the only stuff i have not done is the holiday spend , the heroic , and the mission key , and Armada. Fleet commander does nto say it gives points for it , also there is no way to do the fleet commander every other day all month if your counting that as points people can do your out of your mind

[small narwhal]

What? You just agreed that you do in fact have all the quests. You’ve got 400 points from one weekly sms, and one from pinnacle of power, and you’re not at 500 because you couldn’t do the fleet commander one today, not being able to do it is not the same as not having it at all. There’s another 100 point sms coming up, so you’ll get to 500 if you can do that one.
The fleet commander one does say that it counts, and it’s another one you don’t need to do to finish the meta.

[shy spindle]

I am slowly getting tired of people telling me that they can't pull it while in reality they already have maxed the points they could without the one event.

[full tusk]

Fleet commander does not say it gives points, and its every other day , you cannot possibly have that much fleet commander stuff from the daily pull , if you count those points you are out of your mind saying its doable just grinding it out , it simply is not the case. Touch nobody cares what a liar thinks you tried to lie to make your point you lost all credibility.

[small narwhal]

At higher Titan A tiers, we do in fact get enough skill points that we can finish it every time. You do not need 100% participation. Do it as many times as you can.

[runic meadow]

So we got events to complete that you have to buy a ship to score in…………..very low.

[boreal coyote]

this has been this way forever

[shy spindle]

@full tusk You realize that there people that save up points for those kind events?. Equal to what you see otherwise Weekly in the "Daily Event" Tasks?. You know like Upgrade your Ship, Upgrade your Crew Members, yada, yada,...

[full tusk]

Look again does not say that on mine . Clear as MUD , PC client. Also to the liar i hoard everythign including this , your not being clever and most of us used them up during the Aliiance tourney which we had saved them for. OP 26

[small narwhal]

Ok that text is broken then. It says it counts on stfc.space as well, plus it’s part of their new daily rotation, so it should definitely score. What ops are you?

[runic meadow]

To be honest, I have never noticed. I have always been daft enough to buy the silly ships.

[boreal coyote]

mine does say it counts, strange.... might be an ops thing? 🤷‍♂️

[full tusk]

That was my point all along that the people saying its fine dont realize it isnt fine on pre ascension servers and for sub OP 38s . Whatever i proved my point im done complaining about this and you guys think its fine so give them that positive feeback so it stays like this , good day.

[pliant forum]

so how will these event change the other monthly SLBs ie artifacts, FT, ship upgrades and are we counting on the new ship to make up for the lack of mats/rss/lat/speed ups....and are the ops brackets better 56+ still cant compete with ops 70s on some of these dialy slbs ie tech destinct lat monday etc etc

[shy spindle]

Directly or through events while they are cheaper when you buy an different currency and then trade it in for BPS?. For example the 4* Stars Ships were cheaper the last event while now the currencies among has dropped in the recent added Packs so they would cost more then the last time.

[vagrant topaz]

At the other end of the spectrum, higher ops can’t do these events due to already maxing FTs and Fleet Commanders… this one fit all approach is lame. 🙄

[vale harness]

This is BOGUS! I just did some upgrades to buildings and a 💩 ton of research and got NO POINTS.

[shy spindle]

Research doesn't count against the Event. Bad luck i guess.

[molten marlin]

you got 160k points, wouldn't say none

research does count

[shy spindle]

Must be OP related then and/or they screwed the Text up:

[boreal coyote]

now if most research just increased power more 🤣

[small narwhal]

Daily slb bracket is still 51-70 so you can write off being able to place 1st/2nd on any of them 😬

[half whale]

This is more power than any other event I’ve done, and I didn’t even scratch the bottom level…this one is a little out of reach 🤣 at L64, I could probably go to L70 and not finish this event 🤨

[livid flint]

Lower level players with a time to complete have a disadvantage. The time to complete events takes longer the lower the level you get like me. I had to kill over 240 hostile while a level 49 had to kill 120 hostile to complete the kill events. What is up with that?

[lost siren]

@full swan i want my regular daily events back, i dont like this

ofc he goes offline as soon as i tag him

[near geyser]

I just love when during ceritos sms/slb. can not use ceritos ability but once because cooldown gets stuck at 00s. reboot and still stuck.

[proven sparrow]

A Weekly event, spending only FKR and Xindi Directives, no solo...

Are you going to give us increased FKR directive drops in order to receive enough Directives to complete this event weekly?

Took me 2 Rare and 1 epic to complete this event and it will take me 2 months to replace them directives with the current rate of gain on the directives since the chests 99.5% of the time only give the minimum directive pull

[keen plank]

either multiply the rewards by 100 or divide the milestone by 20. its not worth that measly amount of rare shipparts.

and you know what? i say your eventdesign has real problems with their competence.

[grim drum]

Absolute insanity

[full swan]

That's not true. I'm still here. Working on getting those back.

[scenic flint]

This event doesn't say you have to use the new ship to score so why didn't I score any points?

[novel mango]

This is a no go event for me it’s way to hard to source rares and epics and would take way to many uncommon. The more you try to force me to spend the more I wont. Make a good game without bugs and endless grinds and I might. On that note why are things called uncommon when there is no common version?

[worn gulch]

For this particular event by killing Xindi Hostile, I did, like 3 times but no score been received. Am I doing something wrong?

[keen plank]

only 40+ score, if you cant its most likely not your fault because their eventdesign has no idea of their own game and expect the impossible

[worn gulch]

Arrr….icic….then there is no way I can finish this event as I am not strong enough to kill a level 40+ Xindi Hostile. I wish Scropley explain more clearly that only by killing certain level Hostile will score

[proven sparrow]

I scored fine in it, put a speed crew on the ship and just did 2 runs in wave defence with it. Your missing the writing in RED

[obsidian ore]

The daily and weekly event changes have fundamentally made the core game worse. Events used to be a way for more-active players to gain a bit extra core resources by putting in time to progress faster in some situations, and for more-consistent players to plan/schedule out their efforts to gain a bit extra core resources. Now they mostly do not give core resources, cannot be completed merely by putting in extra time, and cannot be completed by merely planning/scheduling better. It would have made sense to add the new sorts of events on top of what already existed, but as things have been remade I would never recommend someone start playing the game without the old events to break up the monotony.

[normal ruin]

@full swan…not sure if you have helped answer this yet. But any reason as to why today’s events involving wave defense was open for ops 38+ but then having the new SS Reverent ship, required? Which can’t be built until ops 42…🙄🧐

[merry storm]

Will there be any comps coming for all the incursions Scopely fouled up with their server maintenance in the middle of it?

[exotic ermine]

must have some armada events coming soon, they're trying to use everyone's up so they'll have to buy more, just you wait

[merry storm]

I just burned almost a million latinum on station upgrades for the Domination battle pass. Now that's followed the next day by TWO events for station upgrades. Not doing them. I don't have enough buildings I can upgrade or the lat to do it if I did. I just went to ops 34.

[queen hearth]

at least you can recoup some lat from dailies oh wait.

[void light]

The new events are very much a drain players method and i bet its heavily in response to alliance tournaments. Tournaments are the one event where players actually can get lots of decent stuff

[queen hearth]

tournaments original recipe and the new and improved extra crispy relaunch still have 90% garbage tasks with almost all of the 8k and 10k point tasks being p2p. instead of fixing them they just scattered chaos tech into a few of them to encourage even m0ar $, kept the reroll mechanic broken, and still can't get the stupid league status to display consistently between all the windows. it's trash. sure, you can dig out some nice freebies, but the framework is still hot garbage.

[ashen notch]

Really? A mat spend added to the daily event rotation? What i want to say to scopely about this would get me banned from discord.

[queen hearth]

was just coming here to post this lol. absolute garrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbage.

[ashen notch]

Many people in my alliance managed to do all 10ks at zero cost this time. It was much improved. It requires patience in both saving certain things for when a tournament rolls around, as well as being patient in waiting for the right tasks, but it can be done.

My biggest tournament critique is the store itself. Need to black out things which you already have unlocked and cannot duplicate (FTs for example). Would also like to see some of the prime research mats for things like the range enhancement for discovery, and skins for the terror, raveger, etc.

[queen hearth]

it requires a lot of patience, yes, and you have to stare at that task board nonstop. while being able to do no other actions in game. that's not really fun, imo. glad you had teammates that were that patient. 100% agree the store needs to grey out items you have. the way the listing lurches around makes it ripe for a mistaken selection. for some reason they still can't get simple things to work like a listing of items in a grid that moves smoothly.

[rough scarab]

If players in alliance have decent nx01 and hoarded chips, u cud literally do three 10k tasks everyday, with a dom or borg epic pull here and there

[ashen notch]

That is exactly what many of us did.

[queen hearth]

the main problem i've experienced with that is the broken re-rolling. it will pop up the same task list. over multiple re-rolls. the only thing that seems cause a 'good' higher value task to drop (fkr, dom,bork, spend exborg creds) is when a task is selected by someone in the alliance. getting the 8k/10k non-acquire tasks to populate is tedious.

[quick pebble]

Does this "chance" under each officer here mean...even if I spend a whole month and win 6k currency I dont get to pick which officer I can get?

[rough scarab]

Correct

[livid flint]

you have a point. it would be nice if we could pick one

[native basalt]

Hahaha good April fools bit early 😂

[novel mango]

<@&509690795536941056> lame new events not even scoring right. Uncommon is not scoring. Put in a ticket but not expecting any help.

[quartz wind]

Just chiming in as well to express dislike for new daily event.
Previous event type, every building scored since it was based on power and was 1:1 with milestones, now you need to break out the calculator and the required amounts would be excessive even for a weekly, nevermind a daily.
So everyone is just going to keep seeing they cannot complete more and more events and just stop interacting at all

[dark jewel]

I guess there are no more arc auctions bc if there were this wouldn't be a daily.

[obsidian ore]

Ships not counting toward materials spending like it always has in the past (I tested, it's not just a text omission) makes no sense, especially when the advancement of your buildings and research can be gated behind advancement of your ships, which also cost the same materials... they're all part of one progression chain and all use the same mateirals, by Scopely's own design, so this makes no sense.

[tight elbow]

Put the pipe down guys

[loud fossil]

Wow, I thought mine was bad (ops 62). How are these remotely achievable?!

[obsidian ore]

Huh, from 60 to 61 requires 61,750,000 building points; let's take a look at the points granted by getting standard buildings from 59 to 60 and OPS from 60 to 61:
Operations: 20,000
Shipyard: 5,000
R&D Department: 8,000
Academy: 8,000
Ship Hangar: 2,500
Defense Technologies: 8,000
Science Lab: 8,000
Engine Technology Lab: 8,000
Foundry: 8,000
Astronautics Studio: 8,000
Scrapyard: 5,000
Parsteel Generator: 2,500 (24 of these including tritanium and dilithium)
Parsteel Warehouse: 5,000 (3 of these including tritanium and dilithium)
Parsteel Vault: 9,000 (3 of these including tritanium and dilithium)
Refinery: 8,000
Shuttle Bay: 5,000
Drydock: 15,000 (6 of these)
Defense Platform: 15,000 (8 of these)

In total, that's less than 386,500 after accounting for the discount on defense platforms and drydocks, not even 1% of the goal... the specialty buildings all have their own unique resources and other blocks on them being upgradable, but also would not substantially change this discrepancy, nor would throwing in fully going from 61 to 62 as well in the same 26-day period.

Could we please get a Scopely representative to map out their intentions and expectations of players with these events? I'm sure they have spreadsheets of all this stuff prepared internally before going live with major changes like this, so this shouldn't be a difficult undertaking.

edit: I made an error here by not dividing the scores for the defense platforms and drydocks in half as they are scaled down by half relative to other buildings in the event scoring. Rather than redoing the math and have people be confused as to why their scores are half what they facially read as being in-game, I'll just note that the actual scores are lower.

[terse pewter]

their spreadsheet contains a single formula like "=RAND() *(1000000000 - 1000000) +1000000"

[tight elbow]

We probably won't get an explanation but here is my guess

If I had to guess the amount of spend one would need to do to complete all milestones would net you 0.01% return on investment. So the only people who will complete it are the few people that were gonna blast through their stuff anyway, spending 10s of thousands. And those people won't even care one iota about the milestone rewards. So the event is basically to tickle the irrational part of a mega whale's brain.

Like the whale was gonna blast through stuff anyway, but maybe was putting it off due to the clicks required. The sms might tickle the irrational part of their brain and trick them into doing all the clicks sooner rather than later. That's my best guess

[obsidian ore]

One of the 24-hour events I'm being shows at OPS 38 requires using the SS Revenant ship, but there appears to be no way to obtain that ship (its requirements are so high in level compared to my current level that I cannot even see the ship's required level in my shipyard's "Ship Construction" interface). This is one of the events that grants standard event currency, so I am also very confused what the intent is here.

[molten marlin]

That issue has been raised, you need ops 42 to build the ship so you shouldn't be seeing the event

[obsidian ore]

Oh, thank you for the quick response. That makes sense then.

[lofty glen]

Wow the ftp dailies replaced with a spend event that costs you more than what you get back for completing. What the heck are you clowns at scopely smoking?

[gray stirrup]

March of Power is not updating. I have completed MANY researches and also a building and have gotten 0 points.

[verbal surge]

This is about the most useless event imagineable
No I won’t spend 20k uncommon just to get a bit of trit and 500 uncommon back
This is just a major net loss

[vivid linden]

This is a joke

Work for a month on the new events to get a chance at one of these 6. 3 PIC officers that I never use and 3 Enterprise ones that while have been used the fact I haven't tiered up 2 of them probably shows how much I am using them now

[novel nexus]

It's like "find it", the fist that see the Armada get a call for a doc.

[thin void]

The new spend materials daily for buildings/research is about damn near one of the worst changes to the game I’ve seen. This is not a quality of life improvement. It’s a drastic decrease in quality when one realizes that officer sourcing milestones will continue to increase. This is clearly an attempt to get people to waste materials so they have to spend for officers

[outer verge]

its simple ignore all mat spending ecept for officer... i do so and it workd well... but iam angry about the monthly increasing of the officer mat spend milestones in sms.

[modest wadi]

Merry Christmas to one and all scopley strikes again or happy Grinchmas ha ha good luck trying to complete the events 💲💲💲💲💲💲💲

[verbal surge]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-busted-eric-cartman-south-park-s14e9-its-a-jersey-thing-gif-22863314

[keen plank]

no way this event will ever be popular. back to the drawing board dear eventdesigners!

[manic crest]

Scoply, you honestly need a focus group to introduce some of these things to that actually play this game. I have not heard one person yet on my server to like this change to the daily mini event structure. Taking a nice source of mats and resources that most can complete for a profit of useful stuff and now changing to costly , worthless payout in most, and at the end paying out a officer at random that most don't care about. Nicely done. Way to win over people with this one

[fair cedar]

Please, for the love of all things holy, change the armada SMS. Needing to do 130 FKR UC armadas to get the top tier, without any available speedups, will take 32.5 Hrs. I am giving up, still have 33 (8.5hrs) to go and not enough time in the day to do it. Poor implementation - should be a defeat not a spend directives, then at least you would have a better chance.

[half flare]

New daily events are garbage. You should have just improved the payouts on the existing ones.

[fair cedar]

So many new events that are not worth the effort or impossible to complete, and like everything in this game - too much to do, we need less not more. This game is meant to be a distraction from life, not life being a distraction from this game.

[opaque hawk]

I think for some reason, every time the tasks refresh, the store refreshes, not sure why they have those two tied together, makes no sense

[hardy onyx]

@near saddle @full swan

[hollow pelican]

XinDeep small states aquatic and reptilian hostiles yet the scouts don't score points in event

SmS i meant, Bit difficult to complete when you're new to the loop and have low power nx and not at the rep to delay the beam gun, returning player after a year or so out

[rancid swan]

S40, Ops 62, looks like it wants me to put about 500 levels of defense platforms in for a pittance of ship parts, the 1.86M I have is from one 61->62 defense platform, scoring/milestones, and rewards all seem way off. Event name should also say Heroic.

[gilded totem]

writing a rant = pictures say more (scopely logic) .. i realy realy hate the amount of time that has been introduced NOT PLAYING

[junior violet]

Not sure who’s idea it was to do a spend event as one of the daily sms, but only people with more money than sense would do that as it takes away from what people have to spend on auctions. I really want to know the audience that scopely is aiming for with this stuff. The majority of your players are not whales.

[compact tiger]

If the Xindi lower than Caelor aren't supposed to count toward events, you need to mention that explicitly in the description every time, or rename the hostiles something else.,

[odd dock]

still waiting on my FREE ss revenant so that i can participate in the wave defence event...

please hurry, i only have 3 hours before event ends

ty

[proven sparrow]

Think of it this way
They want you at Ops 62 with your 710,471,086 max power to increase your max power through research by 224,666,666 to 935,137,752 in 25 days

[odd dock]

LOL they want an ops 41 to score 132M points .... when the highest points possible is a prime research worth 181k x 15 = 2.7M .... yea no. i wont be buying 50 primes to do that ...

<@&509690795536941056> tell scopely if they are going to put up impossible events, just dont bother putting them up at all, it would actually clear up the huge mess of events displayed if i didnt need to see the logs currently live.

[proven sparrow]

I am quite angry, I posted mine last night on another discord. I'm seriously considering quitting the game.
This Arc is so bad. either buy a new ship in order to complete the events quickly or spend a whole day trying to complete it
Spend $1000 on boosts and speedups to complete a power gain event
Spend $100 per week to complete an Armada weekly event
I dread to think what Saturday's Fleet power upgrade event will look like

I do not like the direction this game has taken and don't think it is worth my money or time anymore

[tropic sigil]

Initially, I was upset with the xindi armada event, but I've thought about it and I'm ok now. Run 2 epic fkr weekly. I get 100-200 directives daily, so that maths out well enough and you can run a few rares some weeks instead 👍 It takes you out of SLB/ALB armada events, but gives consistent materials weekly. All I would recommend is the material pay out to be choice tokens.
Same general comment for the every other day spend event. 2.8m mats points weekly probably isn't sustainable for free to play, but being able to opt out of spend SLBs for consistent materials throughout is a nice option. Again, if we're committed to the choice tokens, that should be the payout for any material reward event that isn't ship specific (jellyfish brawl and cerittos for example make sense to pay out specific mats).
Thank you for trying something controversial. Keep trying things even if the community might not like it at first 😊

[strong mica]

Lvl35 xindi don't score for the xindeep event. No where does it say you have to hit lvl40+

Also xindi armada event is near impossible to complete without spending money. What f2p players have enough directives to LAUNCH all of those? Defeating the armada should also score.

[thin void]

Can we have the old dailies back? The new ones are 💩

[exotic ermine]

You probably made the same mistake as me, you earn points from directives spent, not armada launches. So you get many points per launch. It's still ridiculous though

[strong mica]

What you talking about Willis?

Spending the directives is the SAME as launching the armadas.

[somber hinge]

requesting further IoL...

[hardy knoll]

Yes, those are just stupid. They should convert automatically just like transporter patterns for officers. Why make us go through another step to convert them?

[gentle fox]

<@&509690795536941056> I really like the new daily/weekly event scheduling. Was a bit surprised to see that the build/research event is a mat-spend event. Will there still be things like the Mirror Research events? Or are those going away in favor of The March of Progress?

[vast goblet]

I thought this was great until I worked out it was approx 7000 researches

[gentle fox]

And do the same thing with Raw Intelligence and FC skill points. Just let us spend the initial points directly.

[keen plank]

they really managed to make it worse... cant believe this

[dark horizon]

i really do not need those AT items, and i believe most dont. I have 15k Merit of Honor and 67mil service awards, if only I could spend them on something. Also around 310k Outlaw research credits

[grizzled siren]

Having a Borg type 3 solo event. The day after launch :(. Used all my directives yesterday. 5 day cool down till more? Feedback: Should be daily claim for directives. And bad timing on event (day after)

[late orchid]

Event planner must have no concept of how people use directives for new madas. You all think we just are saving them back? Or ya'll just greeds sobs...Call it what it is a heroric "buy" event... your weekly redeem is really bad. Should be getting them in the daily chests not a couple every week.

[leaden spoke]

I can not fulfill the mission "Mona Nagus", as the enemy is directly at a station and i can not select the enemy 😄

[molten marlin]

click the arrows on either side to select the hostile

[proven sparrow]

So wheres the directives to do this event?

[elder fern]

“Pretty reasonable tbh”
-Scopely, probably

[fluid gust]

can we have some directives?
s weekly drop for this is not good.

[nocturne solstice]

Please add different rewards to event store. The q officers are kind o meh and I already have everything else. The extra dock would be amazing.

[versed grotto]

Can we please, for the love of all that is holy, put the heroic events in thier own bucket. I'm tired of having to scroll past 10 events I'm not going to compete in to get to my daily events that I might compete in.

[elder fern]

There’s more and more evidence with every arc release that whoever in charge of these decisions at Scopely doesn’t play their own game. You shouldn’t have to be told by your players how ridiculous your game is…

[vale musk]

you can frame your new “alignment” with the crazy milestones, the additional events / absurd dailies and wallpaper the kitchen with them.
no mortal can still manage all this.
one (!) event alone took me 2 hours. it's just *** and i can't imagine with the best will in the world that something like this was tested for feasibility in a realistic scenario beforehand.
a lot of players lose at high speed the desire to play!

[void light]

The Monetization Department is in charge. 100% guarantee this game is in the sundown phase. They are going to try and squeeze every penny they can before out of nowhere will come the we are shutting down in 3 months message

[tiny remnant]

I do not understand why Scopely insits on this specific type of event. The reality is that you absolutely get destroyed by much powerful players, all the while you have to destroy a whole bunch of hostiles because you yourself can't get anyone.
Just let us have points for being destroyed, like in the other pvp events.

[ebon crystal]

Please adjust brackets! A level 56 player shouldn't have to compete against a level 70 player

[ashen notch]

Love thay Scopely is continuing their mission to make events harder to complete while simultaneously giving less rewards.

[lyric quiver]

Ops 51 in the same SLB as ops 70 for distinction extinction, okay whatever…..

[hollow lichen]

yeah lets put players with cubes far smaller against the whale cubes who with 1 hostile gain far more than we can with 10 hostiles. Oh and of course chances are they have the primes for faster charging of the beam etc too. So basically all you'll get from me is do the SMS and then you can take that SLB and just move that to the folder that never sees the light every again. Not to mention the beyond rude awards for it, minimal FT stuff when you are actively shifting all that over to CTs now...

[mint finch]

You need to tighten up the brackets on this event. Tier 11 cubes vs tier 18 cubes is insane

[ocean crypt]

the limited ship upgrade with parts is a joke, you have increased the amount required by 7 times any previous event

[runic meadow]

Game is even more 💩. Is that the right level of negativity to make it back to the overlords.

[rich moss]

Klingon hostiles are not registering points and I have killed a few <@&509690795536941056>

[true radish]

<@&509690795536941056> Did you not get enough bad feedback yesterday? Today's event is almost worse then yesterday's fiasco! Would have to start and kill only two new borg armadas, sounds easy right? No new ship needed to score! But wait, can't claim directives without new ship! Would need to have been saving up directives but it's day three off new arch. Others have pointed out that directive pull has 5 day cool down!

Maybe you should just say in description of event that it's only pay to play! It's been getting pretty obvious the last several archs and now seems to be daily reminder that if you don't spend money scopely doesn't want you playing their game. I am so close to just flat out quiting and finding something else to do with my time and money.

[hasty void]

Yeah, the directives are a weekly drip, daily pulls to work on ship, h wait, here is an event to run. Don't have directives? Cough up $50. seriously, the greed has to stop.

[wet copper]

Realta vs realta defeat not scoring ?

[molten marlin]

defeat as in win, there is no losing mechanic

that's what the kill hostiles is for

[runic meadow]

Just another poorly worded event😂😂😂

[heady dragon]

<@&509690795536941056> in today's AMA there were a lot of "we intended" or "it was supposed to be" statements made by the team, after people expressed frustration about having e.g. spent all their borg type 03 solo directives so they could max pull and upgrade their Revenant, now being unable to compete in today's event.

Can you please work with the team to improve communications so that it's more clear what the intent is, and people can align their expectations with the intentions/goals of the team for the events? It would go a long way towards preventing confusion like this.

[lost vault]

this event is pointless to anyone who already spent all their directives and with 7 day cooldown on directives it's even worse. honestly just frustrating as hell, ah well nothing i can do about it i guess

[opaque hawk]

I agree, Silly to have a 7 day cooldown on directives and then put out events to use those directives @full swan and same issue tomorrow with group event

[vale musk]

these cube brackets are a joke.
when you know from the start that you can NEVER reach #1!
ciao motivation

[vast basin]

<@&509690795536941056> Based on exporting research data from spocks club, my ops63 account has gained total of 168,015,604 power from research (includes FCs which doesn't score for the event) and counting manually power from buildings is about 7,846,650 (might have missed some but rounded some up and counting defense platforms giving 40 points per power).

Based on stfc.space my defense platforms are giving me 532M player power which if you add to the numbers above gives little over 700M total which is about what I have when swapping to low level ships so I believe the numbers are close to the correct values.

168,015,604 x 15 = 2 520 234 060
7,846,650 x 40 = 313 866 000
The event could have been running since I created my account over 4 years ago and I would still struggle finishing it.

[exotic ermine]

spending 100 directives vs starting an armada. if you get 1 point for every directive that's 100 points vs 1 point. so they're not the same

[sharp thistle]

Great brackets for the cube events, it's not even worth bothering to even try to compete when ops 56 players have ops 70 players in the same bracket, how exactly is anyone under 60 ops even remotely supposed to compete in that event when you have a t10/11 cube fighting t14+ cubes. All you have to do is look at the base pve damage and realise the brackets are completely screwed, a T11 cube will do 70M damage vs a t14 cube that does 3B base damage, absolute insane from scopely to put those brackets up, but can hardly say its shocking with how terrible scopely have been recently

[vernal breach]

So I take it there was never any response, and, as such, those of us who bought this and then were unable to do the event which was announced after we'd used our resources to test out the hundred dollar ship we paid for are simply screwed out of 6k event currency? Don't get me wrong, it's not that the rewards are particularly good or useful, but from a principle standpoint this is simply obnoxious.

I will be requesting a refund for this purchase and I suggest any others that were caught up in this do the same.

[full swan]

Appreciate the this feedback will pass on.

[full swan]

Sent you a friend request

[arctic magnet]

I think you should take more care to improve the story by turning them into a cartoon show on TV or cable. 😃

[latent hearth]

I don't mind some of the new daily events and some are even nice such as the Pinnacle of power, sure it's not that good of rewards but since it runs every day and you'll probably finish it just doing dailies I'll take it. Fleet commander RSS spend (on research and buildings) and Artifact events running every 4 days is just silly. I wouldn't mind them if they were just added events but the problem is we lost some of the best daily events. Namely research and officer spend events. Even the ship upgrade events that have long been ship parts should go back to being ship xp gain. Anything that is going to run every few days should reward you for actions you can do every few days, not things you can do maybe 2 times a month. I want the old events back, add in new stuff if you like won't complain, but don't take away content that has been valuable since the beginning.

[cinder flame]

These new Daily Events are impossible to complete. Hopefully not completing them won't harm our chances at completing the Ahead of the Curve SMS. (Which aught to have its own events). If anything, these events encourage me NOT to do them.

[azure gazelle]

Yep, this event is really badly designed: To finish it I should gain
1.29 B power = 86 M research power = 32.25 M normal building power
I am at 270 M player power, gained within 5 years or so.
So, you want me to gain another 32% of power through research within next month? Or another 12% through building power next 28 days?
You cannot be serious, right?

shaking head, logging off for today and playing something else that gives more fun<

[shut geode]

Scopely certainly has good intentions behind the events and new daily event format. The implementation is ultra poor. And the bracket problem is back again, G5 and G6 need their own bracket, not together. the amount of points you have to collect for G5 player is simply crazy. Scopely next time, think again before you releases new ideas

[lost vault]

so far the only good thing this arc has been BP choice rewards being kept

[marsh summit]

not only for g5 players, for all level it's the same crazy event

[keen plank]

yet more evidance that he blatently lied to our face, insulting our intelligence.... but yeah... average

[dark jewel]

The objective of new dailies and events is generate revenue... Player that spend are all that matters.

[dusty shell]

I do not know who to ask so I am going to ask the last names that were shared with me as points of contact for Scopely... @full swan & @icy cairn how am I suppose to do an event when the Refinery is still broken?

[molten marlin]

Update your game

The missing refinery options were fixed with the update the other morning.

[dusty shell]

@molten marlin Did that last night and check rechecked no new update... So I am confused even more...

[vernal breach]

Wanted to publicly thank you as well for your effort on this. It's truly appreciated.

[woven kettle]

To start off, I want to say I appreciate the weekly directive pull for the Revenant as opposed to needing to go click something every day.

That said, I think it’s primarily frustrating just for this starting week, that anyone getting the new ship was basically expected by scopely to hold off on actually doing anything with it (hold off running armadas) because events to run armadas were placed several days into the arc. That’s the main disconnect I see.

So that’s why the extra solo directive gift today is very much appreciated and I really hope you’re able to do something similar for the group armada event coming. Especially since group directives are even more precious at only one set a week.

[full swan]

Thanks! Got a lot on my plate this week!

[versed token]

concur, as usual, good idea, terrible execution, my first though when I saw this was "go to hell", who sets up these milestones, can you at least consider f2p players?

[shrewd oxide]

Hi everyone, the events have been good so far. I don't really have any complaints. The only issue is have right now is the fact that I don't have a realta anymore. I believe if we are continuing to do these realta events we should have some way to source 1.

[versed token]

that's a reason to write customer support, not here, realta is not scrappable now, so not sure how you lost it

[shrewd oxide]

I have not idea where or how to write them. I have been looking everywhere.

[molten marlin]

#👽-how-to-contact-support

[novel mango]

I haven’t been doing the dailies since they changed unless it just happens to link up to something I would do anyways.

[pseudo lion]

cube stopped scoring correctly. I hit a hostile that this morning gave a 54% cutting beam charge suddenly started giving 14% . Scopely broke it again on a day when there is a cube event! What else broken?

[molten marlin]

did you remove phlox from the lower deck?

or tier the cube?

[pseudo lion]

No, phlox there, started happening in mid use of cube. One moment it's fine, next hostile it's wrong

[zenith wing]

it's not about tiers it's levels. each level past a tier (so ones that end in 6 or 1) updates the beam charging requirements and damage

[pseudo lion]

Rebooted, repair and redeploy still happening. No change to cube tier or level not crew change.

[opaque girder]

Add the Protector to the ships in event store

[dapper path]

Say whot, as intended? I’d have to quadriple my power for what took me 6 years, in just less then a month to reach that last milestone; if ~9B would even be possible that is…🤪😏

<@&509690795536941056> ?

[vagrant topaz]

@wanton copper @full swan I partly like the new daily events. I see it simple... compared to the previous day's events, the reward is definitely better. You don't have to participate in everyone (at least if you don't really do the 25 day event... because it probably can't be fulfilled) It's a bonus that wasn't there before, so to speak.

To the other players ... please don't push I have yoghurt in my backpack🙈😜

Okay then a negative comment that is very annoying for every new server!!!

Almost no one can do the Borg event. All older servers have received the Borg parts with a code. Of course it doesn't work anymore. On my entire server there are 3 or 4 people with Borg Cube from the shop. The rest can't participate

Okay, it's available now in the event shop, but the server is 4 weeks 🤣. People urgently need the other things Vidar, Stella etc. there are no credits left for the Borg Cube.

The result for the next few months is... once a week at the Borg Cube event, 99.8 percent of the players are a bit 😡

Dear Scoply team... is this a good treatment of future customers? 🤷🏻‍♂️. The event looks great a player can participate 😳

[tawdry snow]

I feel exactly the same (or possibly worse - I'm ops 53, with a T10 cube). My base beam damage is 17m, and I'm extremely frustrated to be competing with g6 players. I understand the point is to encourage spending, but get real Scopely. 10 thousand dollars worth of packs wouldn't get me on their level.

[novel mango]

Any word on if we are stuck with the crappy daily events?

[novel mango]

The new daily events blow chunks. Yeah more pay to win please said no one.

[twin nest]

Oil is running out, gotta get cash somewhere, be reasonable.😂. Maybe invest in the us, pharmaceutical industry instead, or their health insurance 😂

[turbid hamlet]

This is a ridiculous amount of parts

[floral folio]

Running events like this in the middle of another spend artifact event is deceptive and greedy

[neon terrace]

So Apex Outlaw event which occurs WEEKLY don't count to Ahead of the Curve SMS as weekly event complete. Just another point on my list 😂

[turbid hamlet]

Also I love being an Ops 51 having to compete in Ahead of the Curve with an Ops 69, SO FUN!!!

[ocean crypt]

oh aye we wanted more consistent fc and artifact events ,but going daily in fkr faction event chest is now overscore, with no time to build the spending parts, how do you learn to think over there

[oblique ore]

Can you please look for the Borg SMS event please. It looks buggy. I sent my Monaveen out to Autogrind in Texas Space. The event description says detroy hostliles. My Monaveen destroyed a lot of sentinel ships but they only scored for the Battle Pass Event, not for the Borg SMS.
@full swan

[full tusk]

Guys im OP 26 how am i supposed to make 2 million points for this event ? I know i cant do it today but i mean over the next week i was told ex borg shop for 3200 of the highest scoring part but you cant use Ex borg faction until 38.

[livid topaz]

As a 54, I LOVE being in SLBs with 68, 67, and 64... who had that bright idea? How am I expected, at 54, to kill/loot as much or more than someone 10+ levels above me????? I'll wait.

[sharp thistle]

You are supposed to buy packs to reach their levels and compete with them, which is completely insane, but that's scopely lately. The new events and the scores needed to hit the last milestones are crazy high if you want to do the ahead of the curve event, and the rewards for it are terrible

[errant tendon]

I don't even bother to check the daily events now with this change. A lot of the f2p or low spend guys at any level will be missing the lat / recruit tokens rewards and I'm not wasting mats on dailies when they are needed for the spend events

[south fox]

this march of progress thing , first up is there going to be a 1B lat pack available ,2nd a 1T e trit pack , + a 1B ship parts pack for g6 ships ,,,, if not .... might want to rerun your numbers scopely cause this aint happening even if we had 3 months to do it .... already spend around 30m lat in speedups for research and buildings upped a g6 ship 2 tiers and not even close to first tier ,or are we missing the 50M points research bits ,cause id love to find them

[slate ridge]

On top of this - for us without the ship, you gave everyone 200 directives - we can start 2, but without the ship, you need to start 3 to complete the SMS. What was the point if we cant complete? Its a basic SMS with middling rewards, its not a Heroic version - everyone should have a way to complete this but instead you dont provide it.

If the new ship is required for every daily event then the new dship needs to be given freely at the start of the Arc. otherwise, the Arc events need to be playable by users who arent buying the new ship.

[sharp thistle]

All scopely will do is add a heroic tag to them, which means that it's pay to finish, like a lot of events lately

[rocky ocean]

So far they have slapped a heroic and paywall on I would say about 80% of content that players want to engage in

[rocky ocean]

Unless there are rewards in there that are better than what I get at OPS 49 this event is an ignore event because it has the hidden Tag of Heroic on it and the rewards are easy enough to get in as you say 3 months, I get the UC parts in a month the rare sure they are a 3 months to get but I get them eventually

[south fox]

you misread that it would take me atleast 3 months to get eneugh points to get that final thing ... if im lucky ,think a dock on ops 64 counted for 400k if i did not saw that wrong this night that,so to finish that event i need to push up 3 or 4 ops levels give or take quick guess math

[graceful shell]

every 3 min or so i get to pick up this old reward it starting to get annoying 😅

[manic crest]

Wanted to again bring up mini dailies, Taking a nice source of mats and resources and turning it into costly garbage events.

While there might be a stat out there showing that majority of players did not engage with the mini dailies, could we not contribute that to that to a majority of players aren't in g5-g6 where them minis actually became good. And if we are talking about players asking for a update, pretty sure they wanted a slb update because payout never gave g6 related stuff..As a g6 player trying to play as light spend as possible, those minis gave welcomed resources , mats and with lat being so huge in g6, the payouts of it was very nice.

The sad part is the players who didn't engage with them before still probably won't engage with them now, scoply just hurt the players who actually used them and now probably making less players to most likely use them. Maybe it's just as simple as changing rewards. That's cool, but even still the event structure is not sustainable to do very often or much . Anywho, I apologize If you take this as a complaint and not as a discussion to bring to scoply to try and fix because I hear nothing but negative from everyone who I play with <@&509690795536941056>

[lucid trout]

The old research/building daily events were a good source of free ultra recruit tokens. Can we get something like that back?

[wanton summit]

The loss of recruit tokens is the bigger miss for me in G5. That's a few thousand recruit tokens a week gone, and with the chests so bloated, I still have a lot of rares to max.

[nova birch]

Blue tick verification pack being released soon 😅

[terse lodge]

3200 temporal disruptors or 7000 premium. This seems excessive. 22 days of single Dailey's or 6 days of full pulls meaning you have to grind the hell out of silent. Half the amount wouldn't be as hateful. We are already having to pick and choose grinds. If this runs once a week half would be doable and keep interacting with existing content. This isn't helping with not feeling defeated and overwhelmed with the grind.

[short pier]

The point was to let people who bought the ship complete the event if they didn't save their directives. Letting f2p players complete part of the SMS was just an accident, they didn't intend to help you at all.

[short pier]

Even better: this runs every 2 days 😛

[terse lodge]

Didn't realize that. If that's the case. It should be cut by 75% and even then it would get skipped 2/3 times. I really want to know what math they use for these. It's what drives most of us to believe the devs don't play the game. How does this make any sense? Excerpt for play to play?

[high aurora]

<@&509690795536941056> Missing Tickets for Ticketed event

[fluid igloo]

You finally managed to give us a nice and reasonable amount of end of arc currency last time. Why o why did you have to lock almost the entire currency behind the new ship this time? <@&509690795536941056>

[coral herald]

where are the tickets for the event? and where is the event?!

[bitter basalt]

@full swan intern forgot to send tickets

[balmy totem]

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH. Jokers.

[karmic jolt]

so this should be a Heroic or am i missing something.

[spiral nimbus]

Someone wanna teach the event text guy how hexadecimal works? 👀

[novel mango]

They probably will nerf the spend events again anyways.

[junior juniper]

yeah, but they don't include the species 8472 or the assimilated borg cubes, or the special silver blood voyager

[woven condor]

Voyager event, why no points for 8472 or mining? You know, the things Voyager does… it’s just Hirogen hunt.

[oblique ore]

This time the event currency reward is a Desaster. Last time you could get about 100k per week. This thime maybe a quarter for this. Its a event store not worth.

[sinful heart]

Nope, and they probably punished the folks who let the last group of goodies out. 🤨

[balmy totem]

my reaction was more to them going out of their way to include something that rewards a meagre 500 points when you need 100,000x that for the final milestone! (But yes it's stupid they didn't include those)

[jagged current]

Ticket claim is missing. Come on guys, do better

[proven sparrow]

We no longer getting 10 tickets per day ?

[junior juniper]

i just got them

[sinful heart]

What I love is you give me a way to avoid the whole voyager loop after I max it so I don’t have to waste the time hunting them, only to give a weekly event hunting the things I just can pull a claim on 🙄. #scoplylogic

[echo cedar]

The Daily/weekly events need to be in their own tab. Have to scroll past way too many BP and heroic events to get to them

[loud plover]

end event arc store and almost none of the events(with store currency) are free to play is insane

[queen hearth]

oh look. ANOTHER PAYWALLED TOKEN EVENT. YAY.

[lusty heart]

<@&509690795536941056> so we can't complete the polygon sms without a revenant or purchasing more directives. Bit of a kick in the teeth to ftp players

[lethal moss]

They changed their definition of heroic evidently, it’s now not just about any spending at all, but a spending threshold

[sharp thistle]

What's the point of the voyager event and not being able to score of species 8472 ships that are in the same system as the hirogen elite?

[full swan]

Did these show up?

[full swan]

Yeah. Hearing this a lot today.

[wheat summit]

The carpet doesn’t match the drapes.

[high aurora]

100%, thanks!

[full swan]

https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-roger-salas-rufus-sewell-kaleidoscope-blue-gif-9754957414229551003

[high aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/ufo-believe-gif-11601687

[flint oyster]

So generous to give enough to finish 98% of the event. Why do an event where there's zero way to source the Armada directives...

CASH GRAP

[restive lotus]

I don't understand this whole restructuring. Events with useless rewards like assembly medals? What good are those if you're not doing the Starbase? How are we supposed to upkeep daily artifact and fc events? Is it now level up at your leisure, sans corresponding events /rewards over a 25day period? Even then, the progression rewards are approx 10k parts. Not even enough for a tier. Is this the way to get rid of f2p in one mass swoop?

[short pier]

Because that would allow you to actually get something useful for your time.

[full swan]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-stop-believin-journey-believing-arnel-pineda-believe-gif-16363063

[boreal coyote]

just do hirogen hunters... but i get your drfit. Hey guys here is your masterey for voyager! enjoy! Nvmd, please keep doing it 🤣 .

[dull spindle]

Please don't make the events that give event store currency restricted to just those who have the new ship
There should be an alternative to those who do not have the ship

[cold sandal]

Alternative (what $copely would love us to do anyways..) would be to buy the ship 😉

[formal latch]

How I feel about the new "improved" dailies:

[visual furnace]

Why does the ticket event not pay out 5* epic Gas but the other one does pay out 5* epic crystal? @full swan

[true radish]

This is the third day in a row I've come here to specifically complain about events requiring new ship to complete. If you want to make seperate one for extra resources or materials just for new ship owners that's fine. What I'm most upset about is that these events prevent free to play players from getting event store currency. The Very currency that is supposed to help us "catch up" with the spenders so they want to keep spending on the game. Locking us out just makes us free to play want to quite. Less players on server = less enjoyment from other players that do spend = less money.

Can someone go fire the Manager who came up with crap arch and let someone who understands business run things please.

[lethal moss]

There was a lot of that yesterday too… not a good look to change the way heroic label works, since it used to be for events you had to spend to have a reasonable chance to complete, now it’s a cost threshold from what I’ve been hearing. So far that’s 6k event currency that f2p have been cheated out of cuz of the new way heroic labels work, not including the wave defense one that could only be completed by purchasing the ship

[ashen notch]

There has been thousands of arc store loot i couldn't get because of the paywall of buying a ship. I'm so sick of pay to play. How about making a game that is enjoyable to the point that payers WANT to spend money on it rather than NEED to spend money on it?

[signal wraith]

Ooo that's easy.

Anytime the free to play or low paying people get within a thousand yards of big spenders, the whales pitch a fit in the special whale discord and the overlords need to bow to their desires.

[ashen notch]

I firmly believe more money would be made by making things more accessible and affordable for all players. Games which offer actual micro transactions ($20 or less) which are also valuable content (other than battlepass, none of the $20 packs are worth anything) make money hand over fist because they open the market to a wider range of players. This game needs to stop catering to the rich players and instead make things fun and fair for all.

For the record, I'm a 64, so I'm not stranger to spending money on this game, and I'm still advocating for this. The game has been heading in a bad direction for some time now and I keep seeing players quit because of it.

[high aurora]

+1 to Scopely for updating Swarm Sunday. As much criticism and feedback as I provide, I also need to shout you out when you do something the community has been asking for.

[odd dock]

scopely, get a job.
might understand how the world works and therefore make better decisions on event structure and milestones.
i understand this could be a suggestion, but since you never bother taking suggestions, you can have it here as it relates to events anyway.

[ashen notch]

I will definitely say that is a positive update.

One criticism of the new update, don't add more part types to the random pool for cosmic cleanup. Instead have separate packs for each ship part. I have so many of those ships maxed (as others do), so let players focus on the ship parts they need.

[full swan]

We just said that we improved swarm sunday. That's something players have been suggesting for a while...

[high aurora]

Would love if they added G5/G6 Rare parts, or some type of token/selector for rewards for parts like they did with the Revenant for Ore/Crystal/Gas

[sinful heart]

We’ll see if the update was like the pinnacle of power update (pretty good, quite surprising actually) or everything else that is a blatant cash grab and punishing to f2p/low spenders.

Benefit of the doubt just because you said something is fixed just isn’t there…especially as I STILL have the targeting bug. 🤨

[odd dock]

yes, i understand ty, but until i see it on sunday ill make no judgement on how its 'improved' ... if you look at the event March of Progress ...and play the game, you will understand that there can be no trust that the new and improved swarm sunday wont ask me for a kidney, 50 primes, 200 hostiles, or a combination of the above.

it took a brave CC to ask this in the q&a to even get you (scopely) to acknowledge theres an issue with that particular event

[plain oar]

My daily event feedback.

[elfin nest]

Agree ☝️. The new event formats have removed some of the tokens we were getting like ship xp, recruit tokens, officer xp etc. So when you spend your reserve how do you earn them?

[novel mango]

This just in the daily event update still blows…..that is all.

[full swan]

Lot of people are mentioning how difficult march of progress is. That's a pretty common opinion around here...

[plain oar]

Because its mathematically flawed, and impossible without an absolutely massive surge of growth.

[queen hearth]

the 'pretty common opinion around here...' is the new dailies suck.

[keen plank]

https://tenor.com/view/try-to-laugh-try-to-laugh-challenge-you-got-the-whole-squad-laughing-you-got-the-whole-squad-laughing-meme-damn-bro-you-got-the-whole-squad-laughing-gif-26021290

[full swan]

Some are sharing that. Others are giving it a chance.

[queen hearth]

a chance to what? drain mat stocks for a **daily **so we can have even lower stockpiles for officer SLBs? oh wait, sorry, i mean xslbs. giving a chance to have no lat, ultra recruit, preium recruit, or officer xp? i'd like to pass on giving garbage updates a chance but keep telling us this is an upgrade.

[full swan]

I never said you were one of the peeps giving it chance. You've made your thoughts about it very clear. I've been told you only need to do 70% of the SMSs to get the meta and the SLBs are just bonus that goes towards that. You don't need to participate in every event if you don't want to.

[odd dock]

when an event, even if its 30 days long, requires the purchase of 50 (fifty) primes .... thats no mistake. thats all ill say on the subject.

edit - unless scopely are going to balance out their 'mistake' by reducing the cost of all primes by a factor of 10 ... 99.99 packs becoming 9.99 = ok that would be acceptable

[icy marsh]

@full swan utterly ridiculous the amount of anti-synergy you guys are putting into the system. you know people used to be happy when officer xp or ship parts dailies lined up? instead you purposely made it so people would be WASTING their mats by making these not compatible

[queen hearth]

"I've been told you only need to do 70% of the SMSs to get the meta" that's the problem. the new dailies that are driven by mat spends (outright burn mats for points or burn parts, which also means, burning mats) are all going to deplete any stockpiles. what's the point of having daily events to score on some meta SMS if they deplete your stocks for when the officer SLBs drop for that BP? oh, i know, packs. 'only 70%'. so many facepalms. You've monetized dailies. it's a joke.

[full swan]

Fair point. I'll take it back to the team. But not all events are about burning mats or parts I think the additions of FC and Artifacts is good too.

I'll see if we can get some more variety. But if we do, I'm pretty sure it won't be until next month.

[keen plank]

thats 50%, plus a non sustainable xindi armada event will require HIGHER than 70% participation in daily minis

[icy marsh]

the amount of stuff you're requiring us to burn to make these events are in no way replaceable at the same rate. after 1 or 2 months, we won't be able to complete half of these events. additionally, there's less and less speedups available since there's little latinum now available

[wanton summit]

The fair thing to do would be to restore the old 6/12 hr daily SMS routine and keep these mainly for progress in the meta.

[full swan]

Don't think we'll be able to do that. At least not this month.

[potent charm]

Bring back the old daily events the new daily events suck already sick of them going back to saving my res for events that are worthy

[opaque geyser]

My feedback re. new dailies, events, and the pain points seen from them:

• I think there needs to be a separation between new mechanic events, old mechanic engagement events, and material sink events.

• For new mechanics, events make sense for the first month, you want to reward engaging with the new content. However, it should only be for the first month, after, rely on:

• Field Training for old mechanics. These should go through three phases: (Help teach the mechanic/loops by working through tasks, continue to progress through mechanics, then finally a stretch that rewards you for continuing to engage with the mechanic. At this stage, there should be NO events for the mechanic. (the threat of mechanic events leads to hoarding and players not wanting to progress for fear of not being able to do said event)

• Material Sink events (dailies). These events should be EXCLUSIVE events for whatever material they want you to spend. The current problem, as an example, are these mat spend events. There are other mat spend events that may be more valuable, forcing players to decide which event to spend on. Commit to one event for each set of materials you want players to spend.

[keen plank]

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[wanton summit]

Not going to mince words here. So many of the changes are player hostile this month.
-F2P event store currency: way down (You've basically run 2 days with 0 F2P currency if not for the gifts)
-New daily events are unsustainable unless you drastically increase sourcing of the needed mats, currencies
-Xindi armada event is not sustainable without favorable RNG because armada directive sourcing is still pretty poor
-Removal of old dailies also removes easy sourcing of latinum, ultra recruit tokens with no replacement
-That doesn't even touch on March of Progress and its ridiculous milestones

Other than the Xindi armada event, I think the weekly events are fine. Maybe the cube one was a little grindy, but eh.

But your devs are so far removed from what the non-heavy spenders do that you don't realize how many relied on the lat, mats, and tokens for those daily events to progress. I have tons of rare officers that I'll probably never max because I can't really pull the diluted Ultras anymore since there's no source for them except the end of month events now.

[keen plank]

biggest indicator for them not changing it is: they send hammy to absorb the heat. not really dealing with the issues at hand and just pretending to care, while coming up with excuses and lies. the greedy eventdesign and despicable unannounced surprises are their holy cow.

[sinful heart]

Ecco 2.0 🫡🤦‍♂️🥱

[icy marsh]

when people have told them that going from ops 1 to 70 is not even enough to complete the building aspect of march of progress and their response is "its not a mistake but we'll monitor" you know they've jumped the shark

[alpine topaz]

I gave it a chance for the first 3 days. So far, we've had the whole buy the ship or miss out on all the event store loot issues, a daily artifact event followed by a SLB artifact event the next day. Right now there's a FT SLB event. Yesterday there was a FT daily. This stuff is not lined up and not sustainable. I do spend some, but I am not dropping $400 a week on a game. You have got to be kidding me.

[elfin nest]

Meant to give a thumbs down actually. No the additions of FC and Artifacts are not good when you don't have many ways to earn it.

Also getting rewards for building upgrades, completing research is what I would expect in the new limited daily event...and not just having to spend mats. Pls bring back the pts for completing them as well. I think that will be more sustainable and motivating for people to participate.

[elfin nest]

Why are the officer recruit dailies (spending recruit tokens) and spending officer xp events scrapped?

[surreal sage]

Why is there no more the list of arc events ? How can we plan ?

[opaque girder]

Would be nice if the Protector ship would be added to store.

[solar prawn]

Everything about the new daily/weekly/monthly event structure is designed to separate fools from their money. It's not remotely possible to complete the resource-spend dailies/weeklies, not to mention the regular resource-spend SMS/SLBs, without spending $$$ on resource packs. Yes, in theory, you don't need to complete all of the events to complete the monthly. But I remain unconvinced that it's possible to complete the monthly at all without spending.

On top, several of these events are level-locked (e.g., FC; FT indirectly due to needing to keep assessment up high enough to keep %s reasonable) or have massive cost blocks (e.g., tiering up FT), guaranteeing that these repeating events will be impossible to complete at some point, even if you are a spender.

Now, add on top of that the arc events that cannot be completed without spending $100 on a new ship, thereby gimping the ability of non-spenders to get event coin even by grinding. It's a good thing there's nothing worth buying in the event store anyhow. How do you have this event store with no Protector, no Vindicator, no FCs at all? Oh wait - let's get another 10 Stellas!.

[clear wyvern]

No such thing as a free lunch, or a free game. F2p players not paying or getting monetized by ads.

[solar prawn]

November's arc was such a pleasant change. But it was just a tease. This arc is the worst of $copely, squared.

[sinful heart]

I tend to respect and appreciate an honest cost for an honest game. But then I grew up on Lucas Arts and Nintendo….folks accepting this from game developers by actually dropping more than I spent on, well anything is beyond baffling to me. That folks defend it…(which I am not assuming you are btw, just making a point your comment made me think of) makes me sad for humanity.

[signal wraith]

Only took you all what, two years?

[obsidian ore]

regarding giving the new daily events a chance: I am trying, I really am, but trying to complete just the first day of them burned through all of my speedups and latinum, and since speedups and latinum have been removed as rewards (when contrasted to the old daily events) there is now no method available to me to continue giving many of them a try. The buildings I have left to build all take 3+ days, so it looks like I might even be unable to fully complete daily goals now, too.

edit: It feels like fully participating in many of these events may actually be a hinderance to progression, not an aid, and that is a huge change from the old daily events.

[turbid hamlet]

I appreciate the Directives to do these, but I somehow think F2P is being trolled given the fact we cant hit the final milestone with the 2 Armada's we can launch . . . . .

[sharp lily]

Technically f2p players are getting these 2 tiers for free as an added bonus. They shouldn’t be getting the directives at all but scoeply would rather give everyone a “sorry” gift than find the ones that bought the new ship and only give us the directives.

[turbid hamlet]

It's a Group Armada, if you're going to get a group of alliance mates involved dont see the harm in allowing that.

[sharp lily]

Well the only issue with that and these new armadas is that the payout is literally only for those that have the ship. Me and those in my alliance are currently discussing how to best deal with these new armadas because those that don’t have the Rev but bring bigger fkr ships tend to get all the loot, while the ones that have the Rev and make it possible to beat them, get nothing for their effort.

It’s a group armada that directly only benefits the ones that have the Rev. unless everyone has access to the armada chests in the continuum refinery? I can’t remember now.

[bleak basin]

.... This event isn't even possible .... 13B power gain?!?

[plain oar]

this also doesnt address what I raised, the total absence of ultra and premium recruit tokens and the daily feed of latinum from the old daily events.

[oblique ore]

can we please have back at least one f2p event with event currency per day. Its a little frustrating when you have a event store and you can't collect currency...

[nova birch]

f2p means free to play not free to progress

[errant pine]

So everything's fixed. I don't know what cross posting is. I'm not hip to the whole generational thing. I'm not next gen millennial, maybe, but I don't do all this social media stuff. I know i'm a paying customer and I expect to get what I pay for I don't go into walmart and buy a tv and then have them give me a half a tv.I would be complaining there to asking for the manager.Where is my tv that i'm buying. That's just common consumer logic. And I think the whole world would agree with me on that statement. And maybe I'll google this cross post concept, I don't even know what that means you're speaking a foreign language to me now, but i'm not posting any more about it.If that's what it means, it's fixed

[molten marlin]

please don't cross post

[runic meadow]

Of all the numerous issues in the game, Swarms get sorted, you may as well fixed Worms.

[jolly heath]

That the Fleet Commander Material Spend event is a 12 hour Daily Event that has been cycled in EVERY DAY so far is unacceptable. It is a massive drain compared to the acquisition methods for fleet command materials and completely unsustainable.

There are many other methods of sourcing the materials for every other daily material spend event but not the FC one. Those materials are Daily Redeem or Swipe, making this a Heroic in design.

[viscid phoenix]

It’s 13b points, not 13b power. Still not a very realistic milestone though.

These new events make no sense other than as a way to deplete players of resources and drive spending. Figured that’d be the case when I read the announcement and Scopely didn’t disappoint. Giving them all a wide berth for now.

[sinful heart]

And the rewards for that effort being faction creds 🙄. Talk about throwing gold at turds…

[keen plank]

<@&509690795536941056> The more I look at the March of Progress, the more it’s clear to me that somebody made a simple mathematical mistake, the milestones are interestingly 100 times of what they should be (somebody maybe confused a percentage for a factor in the formula?). Mine is 3.3b points, if it was 33m points it would be exactly the same as 22 domination events, which feels about right for a monthly event

[proven sparrow]

the rewards also do not match anywhere near its requirements to complete, so yeah quite possible someone added an extra "0" or 2 to the targets

[torpid marten]

I understand Scopely, they said if this game is based on a science fiction series. Well then we will apply fiction math to it. Very simple.

[vagrant topaz]

Nothing heroic about it, Borg armadas themselves are a fantastic source for f2p/low-spenders and at higher levels, there’s simply nothing to spend the materials on. It actually suits lower levels more.

[empty robin]

So, what is with gating half the event store currency behind the new ship? Sure we got a f2p path. But now I feel like you are strong arming me into buying it. You know many people become more resistant to spending money when they feel like they are being pushed to do so right?
Give us fun reasons to spend money. Stop trying to push us into what feels like a mafia style shake down.

This seriously feels like when they charge $5 for a small bottle of water at a fair in a desert in the middle of the summer.

[rich moss]

23 days but yeah, not sure it’s possible

[short pier]

Scopely, can we please stop pretending the daily artifact event is even remotely reasonable? It takes 6 days of max pulls of silent to complete and runs every 2 days. That's impossible, literally.

[woven tulip]

Daily events are not intended to always be completed

[short pier]

No only 70% of them... And the others are just as ridiculous lol. You don't need to defend Scopely's bad decisions.

The updated dailies are blatantly just to stop people saving up for big events and encouraging spending between events. This isn't a pro-player move.