💬-general-feedback

[faint moss]

what's going on with dailies? it keeps telling me i need level 3 to unlock them but then they populate but the milestones don't show up.

[late plank]

Holodeck broken still….now dailies. When will there be a stable version at the start of a new arc? This always happens

[subtle lichen]

Current list:
-daily chests
-capture nodes
-psychedelic swirls
-holodeck
-corrupt account, no login
-no battle pass points
-events aren’t working

Am I missing anything?

[fresh hill]

scrapping yard

[upbeat cosmos]

Too many moving parts in this game as it is. Stuff is already buggy and broken. Scopely: let's add more moving parts. No need to repair things that are broken.

[cosmic ledge]

This all really needs to get fixed! This is the absolute worst ever arc launch… way to take all the wind out of the sails D1M1…. We have to have better!!

[late plank]

Didn’t give out the start of the arc loot as advertised. Gave less than was posted.

[upbeat cosmos]

At least we can kinda play the game. I've seen maintenance go so wrong that players couldn't even do anything in game. They had to have an emergency maintenance and take the game offline for hours after an update.

[strange pulsar]

So can't do dailies, can't do the new missions.... Seems like $copley doesn't want us to actually play the game. I was thinking about getting the BP to get the Cube. But I don't want to fund this mess

[normal veldt]

Scopely dont care they just gonna add another package where u gotta pay 99.99 lol

[cosmic ledge]

This is true, but the sad part is after everyone hyping up this ARC and then giving us this Day 1 mess is very disheartening to say the least…. Playing a broken game is not what we as STFC players want… Hopefully they will give a comp chest for this mess but even that does not fix the disappointment we are enduring right now… we want and demand better!

[late plank]

Ever since the Saudi Investment Fund bought them everything has been going down hill.

[upbeat cosmos]

It was going downhill long before they bought Scopely. The sad thing is that Scopely sold their bug infested mobile home on a swamp for a boatload of money.

[snow hinge]

So when is scopely fixing the dailies? I’d like to get them done…

[upbeat cosmos]

I'm having issues with my scopely id account too. We have a couple of shared computers. I was logged out of my account because someone wanted to play theirs. Now when I log into the scopely store with my username and password it directs me to the online store for their account.

[winged imp]

If we can get the daily goals fixed that would be sick. Thanks

[lament plover]

The mistakes are one thing. The balance of the new content from OPS 61 onwards is the next disaster. Even with a G5 miner on T8 you can't get into the areas to mine G6 materials, even the new G6 miner ship can't get there on T2. The enemies from 61 onwards can hardly be defeated with a Rottaran on T8. All the minerals you have collected over the last few months (steel, dilithium, trit, accelerator) are worthless because new currencies with a sum sign have been introduced. You start from scratch. A simple acceleration of a building by just 4 days suddenly costs millions of latinum. The entire G6 content is completely overpriced. You won't get OPS60 players to spend that much money all over again, they will simply stop playing this increasingly disastrous game. Shame on you for delivering something like this after charging players for years.

The recently introduced extension for the Discovery, which cost 160 euros, or was it even 200, is now useless. You feel more and more ripped off

[brisk crater]

deleting game seems best, why supporting this system from scop, they play with us not and laugh about our silly behaviour to moan about bugs, every week, every month every day, instead of being consequent and stop playing a game full of mistakes and spending money for scopely evry month again 🤣🤣 Game performance is mess for month and they don t fix anything, all answers from support are same, only bot no real solutions. Point of return, delete mess dont pay for it any more. Idea of playing startreck game was nice, but not this way

[hybrid saddle]

Is there a fix for daily chest..I can complete the events but can't turn in points..

[blazing monolith]

Give it another 5 years

[silver tree]

@tacit obsidian please review epic G5 armada leader chest. We only received 28k for epic 54 and 76k for epic 56 - it should be 100 / 120 k respectively 🍻

[strange pulsar]

Happy anniversary!

[blazing monolith]

Compensation Suggestion for this Mess:
All Players get free elite bp unlock.
Any who spent $19.99 on elite unlock also receive 14 loyalty badges and some speedups etc.
Any who spent $99.99 on elite unlock receives 40 loyalty badges, and some speedups etc.
Lastly, and most importantly, get this fixed asap.

[lofty wharf]

Well, Level 3 was about 4+ years ago with me 😂😂

[brisk crater]

game crash for weeks every fee minutes, game crash for weeks if u writing in chat, game crash if you change ship or officers, ... problems with ios and scopely not working fine with apple... nothing happens only bot answers we are sorry... our team is working.... get 100 latinum as gift 🤣🤣 i don t like to play this buggy game any more, it s waste of time, they only want our money, no only the money of the big spenders, all the one paying only elite battle pass are not important

[last nest]

i mean most of those people have spent like 600k or more on the game already.. so like those people created these prices lol

[silver tree]

Summs it up nicely - even I no longer track of a lot of issues but the most recent ones I think are listed

[subtle lichen]

These are only issues in the last ~12 hours, as far as I know

[brisk crater]

Founded in 2011, Scopely is fueled by a world-class team 🤣🤣and a proprietary 🤣technology platform Playgami that supports an extremely diverse portfolio of experiences. With expertise in game design and development👏👏👏, live operations, marketing👏👏, analytics and more, our team is dedicated to empowering players to play their own way by creating deep 🎉experiences that inspire🍺 play, every day....award ... Best Online Commercial
“Star Trek™ Fleet Command” ...Telly Awards 2022

[thin pier]

can you bring back the $159.99 4000 Latinum pack? it was amazing value

[quick gale]

Just rollback already

[fervent oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexis-rose-one-job-are-you-serious-are-you-kidding-me-gif-17932444

[hearty kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-scopely-content-scopely-not-this-day-a-day-may-come-gif-18702278

[exotic bison]

If i had a compensation chest for every bug and every stuff that's broken during updates i would be ops 70 already

[pallid edge]

Hitting the ‘mine’ button in faction systems does…. Nothing

[twilit slate]

because it is not yours it is Scopely's 🤣

[devout dragon]

Are Scopely celebrating 5 years worth of bugs or something? They seem to be trying to show as many bugs as possible- absolutely shocking way to celebrate 5 years

[frigid flame]

Finally this game is unplayable. Thank you so much. Never will touch any Scopley product again.

[potent shard]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-old-been-there-done-that-already-done-gif-15904699

[elder hornet]

Why is “ reach lv 3 to unlock daily goal” showing? And the daily tracker is blank?

[misty elm]

THIS

[lament plover]

"Thank you for your many thousands of euros, we have decided to completely devalue your credit with today's update. We hope we can hope for new deposits, you complete idiot ".

[thin pier]

APAC NOVA?

[serene dragon]

How the hell can an update create so many downgrades?????? Scopely you have surpassed yourselves this time.

[quick summit]

Scopely shows even after 5 years absolute resistance against learning from past errors. No testing, no QA, no commitment and worst no consequences for them

[thin pier]

but you still play

[signal bison]

I came here to list all the problems but I see plenty of people have made those lists, and all those problems I'm getting too.

I can't tell if dailies are being counted, I can't do the new missions and I have myself a headache trying to mine in Voyager LSD trip space.

Scopely's utter contempt for their paying customers is astonishing. And they're just doing the standard "don't acknowledge, don't apologise, don't compensate".

Not gonna work this time. I'm not doing dailies if I don't know if their registering and I can't do the missions so no need for me to play. I'll come back in a bit and if there isn't an apology, some meaningful compensation and a roadmap to fixing things then I'm deleting my account.

[south kettle]

Anyone else tired of paying for a broken game too???

[thin pier]

lets start a Strike movement, we will refuse to pay a cent until our demands are met, our demands are simple:

• Stop introducing new stuff when game is broken
• Fix existing issues
• Make this game not suck

.. so who's in?

[quick summit]

Dream on, people are too stupid and greedy to really do this to am extent that will really hurt Scopely

[ancient oak]

Seriously scopely. How bad can you be at the delivery of the service you sell? Every single month there is something wrong. You keep failing at the basics like running a 3 day event over 2 days… meanwhile you have Bek or whoever making nonsense videos to promote new material THAT DOESNT WORK! At €20/month - you are selling a yearly subscription to a game for €240. Have you ever considered that you are charging people a lot and therefore should at least make the basics of the game work?!!

[unkempt wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[serene dragon]

Incompetence has reached a new, yet not completely unexpected, level with this update. Sort this stuff out before releasing it. Here's an idea for you, why not release this on 1 server 24hrs before inflicting it on the world? That server could report all the bugs YOU should be sorting before release. At least that way you could hide how bad you lot are.

[serene tusk]

what is this bs?

[viral stratus]

These buggy updates are why I haven’t bought a thing. Yeah, I know I could spend $$ to uplift my game, but why reward utter incompetence?

[queen zinc]

You have to give back this money we spent.. This is the worst patch ever!! We are not in a beta or alpha version of this game!! We are live customer and expect a game what is running. Not these big mess of bugs!! The next thing I doing is give you guys a bad scoring on apple app store. Sorry but sometime, enough is enough🤨

[viral stratus]

The web store doesn’t work to get the free gifts, and opening three tickets (once for the last three mission key events) did absolutely F all. All their CS team did is tell me “we’re aware of the problem and we’re working on it.”

No compensation, no “oops, we F’d up” - NOTHING. 😡

[gray hamlet]

Oh dear

[small edge]

Fix to dailies means I can’t claim any! They didn’t count the already complete daily parts. Gah just give us the frigin points so we can complete today at least!

[blazing monolith]

Trial Bell inventory surplus eliminated. I had hundreds, now it's just the limit (before I did today's trials)

[viral stratus]

Scopely is failing on every level with this update, so congratulations I guess? 🫤

[agile fractal]

@tacit obsidian

[pallid jackal]

This new update is just horrible.

[nova sierra]

Holodeck INOP !

[latent quartz]

How are we supposed to finish the dailie chests now when most of my daily tasks are already gone?

[lusty trail]

Capture nodes in territory not working.

[gleaming cobalt]

Really bad lag in territory takeover as well

[sage sparrow]

scopely you must be kidding me right, i am already at sanctus as best ship and now i got this borg ship co ckblock from you guys cause i skipped epic g4 that was too freaking expensive/tedious!

[lusty trail]

keep getting a error 5 message pop up.

[nova sierra]

server 126 did my dailies today and no chests were there now they appear but not showing dailies done so can't collect from chests we need a product that works from get go not one 5hrs late from server maintenance and put out broken with a new Arc stop all new Arcs sort game out or u will loose more and more people server merge does not sort non paying servers dropping prices sorts that out ,so once again you diminished clients loose out on dailies chests and the compo chests will be poor as normal do the right thing scrooge play and sort the game and pricing

[severe dust]

109. Territory not working. Good job like everytime you do a Update @rigid vapor

[teal brook]

https://tenor.com/view/scopely-gif-24824538

[nova sierra]

at least Dock Turpin wore a mask when he Robbed you not scopley they hide behind chat bots that are useless and new moderators to help all they do is tell what we have already done as in restart delete this clean that ,I know behind the screen there is a human so I do try not insult you so please do same with us

[fickle plank]

This needs more attention.
It pushes back any progress.

BTW: you will need the G4 epic on T8 to get T9 of the Borg Cube 🤣

@scopley I know, you don't play your own game so here is a hint: no one builds the G4 epic, because it is too expensive and the G5 unc. does not take that long to get

[arctic gale]

It's more than mining that isn't working on daily goals. I opened my 24 hour chest a couple of hours ago. It's not showing as an uncompleted goal and I haven't received the points for it.

[limber mesa]

supposedly it counts based off the highest ops faction ship you own, so once your sanctus reaches a tier that qualifies for the parts you should get the parts from previous romulan ships too(separate for each faction, so you can max 3 cubes)

[latent adder]

I've reported my missing compensation crate, (which some of my alliance received upon logging in after the downtime, but I did not), to support, and eventually received a response which said, effectively, "what compensation crate?".

Scopely, if you're going to be absolutely hopeless, at least, please, employ a decent support team.

[mild wharf]

Problem with the holodecks.

[steel gull]

A 1,2 mrd ent cant kill 10 61 hostiles!!! What about balancing!!???

[sudden notch]

There's so many issues going on with this game it's probably more about reporting what's working rather than what's not because pretty much everything is not. Fix the game scopely. What an epic fail of a roll out this has been for the players. While scopely sits counting hundreds from cash sales while running a broken game.

[low vector]

Scopely.
Yup

[sage sparrow]

uh, thats bad game design, so a 230m sanctus aint enough and borg cube is stuck at 30mill. my luck again my corvus and sanctus are both "just" T5

[halcyon sedge]

New psicodelic filter 🥳 #wastewarpcells

[opal shard]

Hundreds? Lol

If Scopely were matched in the list of Nations by GDP it would rank 168 out of 177 (there are only 176 nations, adding it gives us the extra one)

[pallid jackal]

This is ridiculous lol

[rancid edge]

so the dailies go away after almost having them done and when they come back they reset. WTH? cant even finish dailies for today for it now.. This is becoming the norm not a random thing. yall need to figure this stuff out.

[chilly sorrel]

Sure am glad they fixed the lag, said NO ONE EVER!!

[thin zenith]

But they haven't, super laggy at my end.

[dusky wind]

General feedback.

The game is running fine, ok some of the features, ok most of the features are... Ok the game is Børked

[potent shard]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-dumb-you-dont-get-it-gif-8906259

[dull tulip]

So territory capture isn't a thing anymore? I can't occupy any node on NA-012

[dusky wind]

Weekly bo event for it is missing too

[pallid jackal]

They messed up so many things with this update the game is pretty much unplayable

[turbid vapor]

Complete joke that they think this is how they convince people to drop £99.99 over and over again on the new schtick they add that just breaks everything xD

[potent shard]

Of course they do because at the end of the day they are laughing at us because people stay paying.

[gray hawk]

It's the "Scopely Way"

[indigo coral]

You can kinda excuse bugs in new features, but breaking stuff that has been working can’t be excused.

[kind minnow]

@tacit obsidian id expect a serious compensation chest for the worst arc launch this year

[signal raft]

with all the issues and bugs outstanding would it not make sense to send out more frequent updates to your player base? @tacit obsidian @royal solar bugs are one thing but one of the major frustrations is not having visibility of what's been done. Even if you have a channel that has the current bugs listed, what the issue is and what the status is and where possible an expected fix. It'll probably slow things down on the bug reporting channel and alleviate frustrations somewhat for the players and the support folks on DC

[hollow flint]

You all screwed the pooch with the borg cube diminishing returns on the cutting beam

[tacit copper]

How am I supposed to score in the borg missions if I can't collect or start new missions

[slate badger]

Where is this new 30 milestones BP ? @tacit obsidian @royal solar

[spark acorn]

Lets start with fuel pricing, them worry about the game hmmm! People wont unite on something as essesntial as that, isnt anyway the Troglodites unite behind a game. Lmao

[fresh haven]

@tacit obsidian can we get capture nodes fixed before defenses start today? 🤦‍♂️

[kind minnow]

@tacit obsidian who is responsible for testing.. during a big update u need to test every aspect of the game.. including territory wich is also broken now .. cant just use us as free testers !

[chilly sorrel]

Scopley needs to get off coffee break and fix they're ckfu up

[spark acorn]

125 messages since my post, yet not a single one from "Scopely", should tell u all u need to know.

[safe edge]

@royal solar - general feedback? Please just do better. We willingly spend time and (sometimes) money in your game. Disrepair to this level can only be disrespect of your customers. Do better.

[tepid matrix]

Whoever heads up QA at scopely seriously needs to find another job… or maybe they already did

[mental summit]

Daily missions that were completed before the fix are not being credited. They have been completed and not listed anymore but not adding to the daily total.

[sturdy dune]

I never saw the Incursion Event Store yesterday with all the problems in the game. Did it ever appear?

[quick gale]

Yes

[frail latch]

Anyone know why takeover nodes can't be occupied? Whole takeover seems broken

[smoky plover]

I have the same issue.

[woeful fox]

@developers <@&509691205798592532> @tacit obsidian @royal solar how about some info on what is happening with the daily milestone chests that didn’t appear this morning, so couldn’t be collected when the daily’s where completed.
Now the milestones have appeared but those daily’s already completed are not registering.
Also what is happening with selecting the missions on the Holodeck ?
Have to say what should have been a celebration of playing this game for 5years is turning in to a farce

[frail latch]

Blimey this is worse than its been in a long time. Error 5 everywhere, if we can get in. Can't see what's going on in territory, can't occupy nodes, can't do anything.

[dusky sky]

<@&509691205798592532> I know you all have a ton of problems right now and I appreciate all your work to fix them. However, I've heard several folks with seizure conditions talking about how bad the Voyager psychedelic systems are right now. As this is a real life medical issue can we please get a priority on, and updates about what you're doing to fix this particular issue please. Maybe a warning for folks who haven't heard so that at least that's covered? I am sure folks with conditions affected by this are likely all aware that stuff like this can happen but this one seems pretty bad.

[crude sandal]

well... I'm not doing anything to fix them directly, because, hey, not actually an employee.
But no further updates currently available, hoping we'll get an update on the bug list in #⭐-official-announcements once Eco or Domo wake up 🙂

[kind minnow]

does this game have an actual seizure warning (like most games do so they dont get sued ;p ?) else scopely might face some legal action if ppl end up seizuring because of this

[weary prism]

Are you sure you want them to do that? What if they take up neurosurgery next? 😂

[loud cove]

I found their bug list:

Missing exclamation point in mission #3 dialog - FIXED ✅

[No other bugs known at this time]

[grave star]

@tacit obsidian well done scopley , we even have a whale on server EU125 who said today he is thinking about quitting the game after this latest failed arc launch, your bug fixes have caused even more issues and he says he is at the point of walking away from the game, also so are many of the lesser paying players , not that you care about them as much as they dont spend as much cash ingame,

[stuck burrow]

This business model has all the hallmarks of failure. It is only a matter of time.

[kind minnow]

desperate cash grab arcs tell us one thing. they are ready to pull the plug on this game

[nova sierra]

Why is no one talking to us and recognising that the game is broken?

[indigo summit]

Shambolic…

[teal wigeon]

One of our whales has walked away

[worthy jetty]

Got a must be level 3 to get my dailies (I’m lvl37) and all my dailies were lost, over 100 points. Like some said, their QA team is either on a coffee break or non existent

[harsh thunder]

@tacit obsidian on server 44 Fsep-3819 is blurry. It's extremely difficult to see anything.

[limber summit]

@developers how are players getting compt for dailies... yesterday couldn't see to claim, today can't see to claim and if I complete today's dailies, that's 2 of the 7 daily loot chest credits.

[pallid jackal]

Just one screw up after another - makes me wonder if anybody with a sense of pride still works at Scopely. Seems they don’t care at all.

[vocal sphinx]

The problem are not the developers the problem is a greedy management which does not give enough time for developers to do their job right.

[rocky raptor]

i say this every time mate
head in the sand

[limber summit]

Behind those screens are people... just like us. The only difference is they have deadlines to making sure we stay entertained as players. To think they don't care is ignorant. Just like many of the most thought out plans, there is always hiccups that you didn't forsee, but there you are. They happen.

We get frustrated, but we are just playing for fun. They aren't playing, they are doing their best to get the fabric of the game up and running. Finding that bad string is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I know from rl experience, folks always focus on negatives because it juices them more. And I know constantly updating every minute takes time away from getting it fixed quickly. They have no incentive to not fix it as quickly as they can, or they could be out of a job.

I believe they need to be appreciated for what they are trying to do. It's not nearly as broken as mega cube or incursion first launches.

[vapid rivet]

As soon as Scamley acknowledge a problem they have to deal with it - comp chests and roadmaps for fixes etc. If they ignore it - and pretend there is not a problem, they don't have to deal with it, and hope we all 'move on' and keep on paying....

[turbid vapor]

I agree with you in principal, but this is a pathetic mess and we're angry at Scopely as a whole, not the individuals who probably do care. We need to voice disdain when we're treated to poorly (some of these bugs have NOTHING to do with the new content and completely break the most important part of the game - the daily cycle)

[limber summit]

I disagree with you. With out the employees there can't be a scopely. It's easier to umbrella bash a company name than the employees that make the company.

Programming is not so cut and dry to think if I add this and submit that everything will be hunky dory. If all the layers don't line up, they negate fragments, hence a bad string.

[peak scarab]

What simply changes me are not the bugs, but the fact that there is simply no communication at all. What is the CM for?

[hearty kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/coding-gif-22923954

[turbid vapor]

No it isn't that easy. That's why you TEST IT. They clearly haven't tested it properly (again, completely unacceptable) and now we're at a point where things that did work don't and new things that were meant to be exciting are frustrating

[kind minnow]

they are all in a different timezone i guess 😉

[limber summit]

They did acknowledge they have issues. On announcement. If they have nothing to report, you base your response on needing a minute by minute report?

That would be a waste of energy to fixing the issue. I know I don't know how their job description works. For all I know they are coding along with IT to fix it.

We as players have to choice, report a problem and be patient... or be frustrated because we aren't receiving instant gratification and just stop playing.

[crimson stream]

This is what happens when every MBA grad becomes a "consultant" and goes to these companies and starts telling them to cut costs even if it affects quality, because that will show profit growth for the next quarter. And in the world of these MBAs, next quarter profits are all that matter. Consumer sentiment, product quality, employee morale all be dammed.

[lime summit]

Ever since Copley was sold the game has gone downhill. New ownership must not communicate; existing Scopely management probably no longer cares, after all they got their buyout $$$; Players lose

[trim lagoon]

Capture Nodes on 110 not working, DQ space still looks like tron trip, daily chests cleared only they weren't so I can't get them now... Holodeck shows 3 missions available but saw a 4th yesterday and still can't grab any.

[stuck delta]

They cant sell packs for QA

[mild steppe]

Welcome to the farting in the wind channel

[stuck delta]

I think I would have been surprised if they released a new patch which wasnt bugged

[orchid timber]

Hey Scopely! If you're not gonna change the pvp ranges, then you missed a huge opportunity for Blue Origin as a G6 ship. You know...a giant phallus. 🙄

[elfin plume]

@crisp dome @pulsar leaf @torn saffron @uncut spear Are there plans to give the new Cube-ship a damage modifier for borgmadas, similar to the one faction-ships get?

[kind minnow]

no other none faction ship except the jelly got it.. so i guess not

[maiden pilot]

You sound like a scopely shill. The people behind the scenes programming this should be embarrassed. But since this happens every month, worse and worse each time, clearly they aren't embarrassed or give a crp. And before you say a thing, yes, I know whet I'm talking about. They have no QA. They don't bother fully testing g anything, clearly. Excusing them and saying they need to be appreciated for what they do is absurd. They should all be fired. They most definitely are not doing their best. If this is their best, then scopely needs to find new programmers.

[woven sonnet]

@tacit obsidian @vale wasp When will server 28 get their compensation for the week we had zero armadas

[marsh raft]

Everyone having issues with Daily’s? Not listed as a known issue

[frail hornet]

it is a common problem reported in bug-reporting

[kind minnow]

would be a known issue if the cm's were actually doing what they are supposed to do and not bound to one timezone

[rotund rapids]

"Captain" Kevin Thomas Riley of the Starship Enterprise had that sticky stuff on his hands when he posted this update

[limber summit]

I hate to break it to you, but I am a almost entirely f2p, so no incentives here. But I can say this I have worked customer service, I have work a production where things had to function. So I know what it's like to experience the stress of having to listen to dissatisfied sorts like yourself.

If you feel so strongly about how wronged the game has become to you, then perhaps you should quit the game. Basing your statements on conjecture is ignorant. Unless you have worked the inside of the company...

[marsh raft]

Thanks

[potent shard]

Oh they don't care, because if they did, they will fix the problems as soon as it's presented, not put it on a list and hope we forget about it. For example Field Training, a simple fix has been on the list for more than 3 months while they keep pushing out content. How about the zoom bug been almost 2 years still no fix. The only thing they do fix are the bugs that affect paying customers.
So yeah they don't care.

[upbeat cosmos]

Do we get a comp chest to make up for the loot/shields/daily coin that we missed when we couldn't collect the chests for doing our dailies? A little extra for our frustration might be nice.

[limber summit]

If that were true, then only folks who spend money would get to play at all and it would be a subscription based game. Which it's not. So...

So I disagree. I just know that the team deserves more respect then you all are giving.

[upbeat cosmos]

Actually it is true. It isn't disrespect. It is frustration. The game keeps breaking in some new way with every update. Honestly if they cared they would fix it instead of pushing out more new content and pay to play chests all the time. Their focus isn't on making a great game. They are focused on ways to bring in maximum revenue with minimal effort.

[potent shard]

Tell me what bug that affects f2p & p2w has been fixed? Let's see I said field training - nope, zoom - nope, let's add, crew presets - nope, stuck ships - nope, stability - nope I could go on if you want.

[pale umbra]

The new way of saying the grade/star of materials is so hard to read. I've been playing since the second week of the game, and everything is so hard to read now. I'm in my 30s, I feel bad for everyone with poor eyesight. This is a really bad UI now

[snow bloom]

How do I talk with scopely for these issues: Hi 2 things going on: 1. Dont have new missions yet. 2: Exborg dailies are missing and it has an overlay of dailies open at level 3 and has a lock... I am on s65 and my name is LoneWolfAssassin.

[crimson stream]

This is exactly the messaging that RevDeuce and UltimateDJ have been pushing out for the past year or so. I love how everybody defends them and says they aren't scopely shills. But every time scopely Fs up, they do a healf hearted "takedown" of scopely to make it look like they're on our side, and then go into defending scopely in the same video

[maiden pilot]

They deserve respect for repeatedly putting out sub par content? For not fixing bugs? For not doing anything to fix anything except bugs that are player beneficial? They fixed the cloak bug in hours. But the zoom bug? The notifications (or complete lack thereof)? Etc...... No, the people screwing this all up are not deserving of respect. They are there still because scopely continues to pay them. They clearly take no pride in their work.

[leaden lintel]

Did the starter chests on g5 armadas get changed? Seems they are way lower now.

[tropic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-lag-the-lag-gif-26319203

[pale umbra]

Iso doesn't even have grades displayed but the text is smaller. How am I supposed to read those numbers? This is that Zoolander meme, a font size for ants!

[green hedge]

where did the incursion store disappear?

[limber summit]

I am entitled to my opinion and view points. Just like you are.

The difference between us is that I know it's not easy to uncover a "simple" typo in layers and rows of code in a string. Because that 1 typo can screw up another 300 odd lines that you didn't anticipate.

I have patience. And I'm not here to upset an apple cart with you folks. They are working hard to fix it. Just not as cookie cutter fast as you want.

I don't have all the answers to Operation inside, and I'm sure most of us don't. But I am optimistic in that they will resolve the issues to keep you happy. Let's face it, humanity relishes something to complain about.

[maiden pilot]

It only stays around a little bit after incursions. Gone till next time.

[potent shard]

It stay only for one day after incursion till next time.

[zinc terrace]

@tacit obsidian there really should be a community check in scheduled every time there are lasting issues with the game. Especially ones that impact anything with a time limit such as collecting daily rewards. The worst thing you can do is leave people in the dark.

Maintain a hit list and even an announcement that says these are the things we are working on and none are fixed yet. End with the time of your next update to the community.

[tropic sinew]

Or just fix the lag at least...

[last plover]

Hi and good morning all! @tacit obsidian can we get an update please ?

[unreal eagle]

@tacit obsidian and @royal solar still sleeping?

[maiden pilot]

I actually know a lot about programming, so I know exactly how difficult it is to find a typo in coding. I'm not just spouting crp I know nothing about. The point remains that they put out bad coding, constantly. If it's not working, it shouldn't be out out. Now granted, it's not the programmers that make those decisions, it's the higher ups that push it out too soon. But the fact still remains that if the coding isn't properly compiled, tested, and implemented in full on test severs for complete testing, then both the programmers and the management who push it out are at fault and should not be praised. Nor should a statement of "they are working hard to fix it" be uttered, because clearly that's so far from the truth as to be absurd. They have problems that date back two years. That's working hard to fix it? I think not!

[snow bloom]

@limber summit That is why a company beta test the game before adding to the regular game to get the kinks out

[potent shard]

You're not the only one that knows code. I too know but it doesn't take months or years to fix.
Working hard to fix, hardly, it's not like it's only one person working, or maybe it is.
So no matter how you spin it, it doesn't change the fact that they have a list days, months, years old with no sight of it being touched. Yes a week to fix maybe longer than that is a slap to the face.

[tropic sinew]

You are the free beta tester, why would Scopley pay for them?\

[tough elk]

Apex event is going to be fun tomorrow. Like the good old days before we had the three extra systems (which still don't seem enough)

[rotund rapids]

I work in IT for a living - this is simply unacceptable. The code is your product, and you're releasing a shoddy product. It's similar to an automobile manufacturer releasing new model years with missing gas caps and broken speedometers.

[kind minnow]

the product is actually the paid packs. the game itself doesnt provide them income.

[mild steppe]

At least release timely updates that you’re still working to fix the issues Scopely. Instead of letting us all twist in the wind.

[mild fulcrum]

That’s one way to deal with tickets.

[rotund notch]

That’s what happened to me

[snow bloom]

who deleted my comment

[crimson stream]

yeah scopely support is beyond atrocious. I've been told by a rep to "calm the F down" when I asked why I couldn't access something I paid for

[remote flume]

You broke the game again, Scopely. TC fights are completely broken now.

#👾-bug-reporting message

[silver laurel]

First off, the number of bugs and instability issues is ridiculous and seems to continue growing as things aren't getting fixed and more stuff keeps getting added that breaks more. Secondly, the borg cutting beam being nerfed to punch up but not to punch down is absurd. The base defense delay prime was bad enough now I feel like I'm also being punished on both ends for being a smaller player. Are you trying to push all the ftp/light spenders out? If you do that, the big spenders will eventually leave too. Either nerf it both directions or not at all.

[rotund rapids]

lmfao - that's not how SaaS works, bro; paid packs are a source of revenue that supports the product ...... the company I work for actually had new release issues for a good 6 months in 2019 - until WE FIXED THEM.

[tropic sinew]

This ^, we have bug after bug and failed update after failed update....but pack releases are NEVER broken

[snow bloom]

I think that you should not be able to hit down by 5 ops and hit as high as you want. It is BS when a 60 with a 200 million ship is killing a 10 million ship or 40 million ship...ect...

[humble sandal]

I dunno about anyone else but I'd be in favor of telling them to quit it with new content and features for a few months and just refactor the code base and fix things.

[rough belfry]

Unfortunately that's never going to happen. Scopely and STFC in particular is stuck into the monthly battle pass cycle and they feel like they can't break from that. So this game will just continue to release new content and break new things until a catastrophic failure.

[humble sandal]

@rough belfry As much as all of us may want it, I fear you're right. But you can only add stuff and patch for so long. Software like anything else can't just be patch on patch on patch. Eventually you have to rip things out and redo them.

[versed silo]

I would suggest that the catastrophic failure happened yesterday, completely unplayable, events broken, old bugs not fixed and new bugs introduced, how much more broken does the game need become ?

Oddly - the buy pack operations within game appear to be up and stable, odd that

[snow bloom]

@remote flume Thank you for showing me the "bug-reporting" chat room. Hopefully they will look into it.

[stuck delta]

Yeah but then they wouldnt make money.

[humble sandal]

@stuck delta Yes but there are ways to mitigate that. Smaller events without significant new storyline. New ships and maybe characters. Really assuming their code isn't just a complete, epic, giant mess of horror can release plenty of new content. Just have to not add new features/capabilities/mechanics. Having said that their code probably is a horror show at this point, but still

[torpid kestrel]

The daily awards are not allowing us to receive daily rewards, cannot open the new missions..non stop crashing.

[kind minnow]

#eco for future launches .. maybe split arc launches and new major updates? like launching the G6 stuff in the in between weeks. because an arcfall itself is enough trouble for a game company struggling with Q&a

[elder hornet]

Great you fixed the daily goals. Only finished them last night !

[limber mesa]

1 open ticket per device/browser is not enough.
i have 1 open because "new version bugs" does not have an option to report new bugs and just locks up.
1 open to report capture nodes not working.
1 open to request compensation for dailies points not being counted.
now i don't have a device free to open a ticket to request compensation for my alliance for not getting credit for the territory capture SMS today, we need both our territory defences to get enough points to clear the SMS.

[chrome vortex]

@tacit obsidian since I did the work to complete swarm but couldn't claim the resources I think I need some form of comp to make up.

[errant brook]

@tacit obsidian will there be a official announcement on how to treat Daily Goals not counting in Total Points? Or do we all have to individually contact support?

[peak scarab]

Eco is probably still sleeping off the intoxication. Just like everyone who could say anything.

[signal raft]

So erm...you're still alive @tacit obsidian right? getting concerned about you brother. The deafening silence about the various bugs and compensation is really poor.

[dry smelt]

Territory defense is not working can't occupy capture nodes keep getting an error code 5

[nocturne prawn]

So the territory event not showing up until todays reset, really great that for those who had territory runs Today and now wont get the points, perfect timing LOL

[weary pewter]

I want nothing more to do with this game at the moment. Territory defence was a joke today. System continually crashing, can’t sit on takeover nodes, incredible lag. Error code 5 continually. I’ve put a long shield up and I’m not going to log on again until I hear of progress being made.
Don’t even get me started on Borg cubes, non accessible holodeck missions and the various other numerous bugs.
If Scopely can’t test their product thoroughly or properly then my advice to them is to sell the game on to a company that can.

[spark epoch]

https://youtu.be/xdrMypoxl9o

[uncut haven]

Ok can we fix something today
Capture nodes
Ability to call armadas
Able to use the new missions

[dusky wind]

Territory defence gave points for trailblaser that appeared at 5pm

[tropic sinew]

Word on the street is that the head coder/programmer for this game told Scopely that this release wasn't ready yet, had too many coding errors, and wouldn't be ready until January. Scopely decided to release it anyways, for fast cash.

[wooden spire]

Sounds right for this disgusting, unprincipled money-grabbing sack of bandits.

[exotic bison]

No daily rewards so no daily loyalty badge, not able to open new mission so no score in the event, extra maintenance time (almost twice the time it was told), and still no fix, no competition whatsoever and the worst part of it all ......... No communication whatsoever from scopely what's going on and what and when they will compensate

[earnest lichen]

I have been playing MMO games since the 90s and Scopely is officially the worst game publisher I have ever seen. This crap is SAD, y'all. Beta Testing is not some kind of STD test! It's what devs do BEFORE they inflict their mistakes on the public so they don't BREAK THE GAME. Just, so much fail. The compensation consolation prize this time better be a doozy! I'm thinking a free Cube for all the people who don't just give up and delete the game.

[tropic sinew]

They are not interested in fixing bugs, sorry to tell you

[vast rover]

I doubt there will be a compensation to that extent. 2 Cube Ships as like 👀 , maybe even 3 🙃

[tropic sinew]

Scopley does do beta testing actually. All of us are free beta testers(some of us actually PAY Scopely to beta test releases FOR them). The community has asked OVER AND OVER again for them to beta test releases, for YEARS now....and we just get ignored. Again, why would they test releases, when people PAY them to beta test releases for free(when new content goes live)?

[frozen girder]

If nothing work and you buy a ship that also not work for a event that don't work for you and why ? Right the ship doesn't work. Greatest hits of Scoply 🎶

[vast rover]

I'm a gamer and so is my daughter. I guess I'm the influence 🤣. Unfortunately she's 16 years old and not a trekkie 🥲.

What honestly doesn't make sense for me is how come the games we play besides STFC......the bugs get sorted out extremely quickly...

Example..my oldest daughter is playing a game call fortnite. I ask her how's it going. She replies... oh dad they just found a bug in the game so they fixing it quickly...

So I'm a bit confused as Scopely and STFC is maybe not on the same level as these high grossing games, but still... service is service.

[plain rain]

Remember how bad Free Gaila was? This is worse by a factor of 100000000. And slowmoding when people are rightly coming at you with pitchforks and torches just makes the matter worse.

[fleet cape]

regardless of how bad this game is, people spend tens of thousands of dollars on it for the new shiny pixel -- Scopley has zero incentive to fix anything quickly. All the spenders will continue to keep spend spend spend on the new shiny that Scopley dangles in front of them.

[exotic bison]

As a paying customer we can ( i can at least for sure) say stop messing with my investment, give the daily reward and the new missions or compensate for the losses

[stable jasper]

Did we reached the pinnacle of the monthly mess up, or will Scopely be able to do even worse next month?
And they can't even blame the summer intern that has been gone for a couple of month now

[plain rain]

if we keep paying them, they will keep getting worse and worse.

[nova sierra]

The silence from Scopely is sad as this latest update has created lots of bugs.

[teal brook]

Whales and everyone else need to stop paying for lackluster broken content.

[slate orbit]

So scopely can yall explain why a event is called recruit ortegas and uhura on the front page then one step downs its kill things with a battle ship then one step past that itis rewards for Dilithium and matts but no where in there do you get any rewards to get any officers or any officer recruit tokens.. so you put a generic kill quest on a falsely labeled title on purpose? is this laziness or purposely misleading title cards.?

[pallid jackal]

territory defense broken 😂 Scopely really is ran by a bunch of amateurs

[willow wagon]

Extra special 5th year anniversary bugs curtesy of scopley…Broken defence nodes, worst lag ever… so is this what the eu servers get after being excluded from the 5th year anniversary comp

[frozen girder]

https://tenor.com/view/yard-work-fail-epic-fail-hardwork-gif-17974520

[subtle sinew]

Scopely, please add transwarp conduits (instant jump) and the ability to cloak to the Borg Cube.

[sharp ore]

An error occured. Error code: 5. CONFIRM

[willow wagon]

Lucky we haven’t had to pay for this extra….just what I need to appear every 30 seconds

[elfin swan]

I'm just glad I'm free to play, others pay for me to enjoy the bugs and terribly broken content launches. Cheers to you guys!

[nova sierra]

Everyone should get generous compensation for all the bugs today. We should all get a monthly resource pack, we should get holodeck credits and we should all get territory season pass points. So many bugs impacting multiple aspect of gameplay for over 10 hours now.

[signal raft]

Honestly can someone check on @tacit obsidian and make sure he's still alive?

[rugged prism]

He's in #🌌-galaxy-chat

[sullen matrix]

in the current state of the game, maybe STFC 2 makes more sense. 😂

[stark lintel]

@tacit obsidian Please for the love of god, can you clean up players inventories or allow us to trade in/delete useless items? Inventory size has exploded over the years and there are dozens of items that are useless and just clutter everything up.

[nocturne prawn]

Then they managed to miss some doozies because I have to use two hands to get to the MMO publishers that have had downtimes in the multiples of days, let alone ones that had multiple down times within a day to try and fix the bugs

[kind minnow]

but where they managing a tiny game that u can play on a phone ?

[fervent oyster]

This is the worst celebration ever or I might have missed something. So frustrated about the arc already. Catastrophic release (2.5 hrs announced), massive number of bugs, no communication, SD is not responding at all or closing tickets.

[raven kraken]

Q was worse

[languid iron]

Could be worse. Recall the incursion roll out where All servers went dead for up to 3 days last year????

[fervent oyster]

But this was no aniversary 🙂

[kind minnow]

was that one region went so bad they canceled the other two

[surreal otter]

Tbf season pass points work fine

[past rune]

Scopley is run by hacks

[nova latch]

Not a single officer shard in this deceptively titled event

[nocturne prawn]

my version has already had that front removed, just the default battleship

[golden violet]

guess I'm not getting the last chest

[somber idol]

What is Scopely’s position/TOS/TOC regarding players hitting other players who are actively doing armadas?

[nova sierra]

Scopely communication and support is horrible

[vast field]

May the best player win (i.e. spend more 💰)

[elder pollen]

Communication would help. What's going on?

[willow raven]

The cube is a failure. Having folks kill hostiles that charge the beam then needing to warp to a lower system to ensure you can one shot the hostile with the beam is a stupid slow grind. It’s some hidden formula on beam charge and not a flat kill 5 hostiles or whatever. Terrible. All the warping back and forth is another awful waste of time.

[earnest granite]

Pretty sure the beam is more for whales to one shot smaller players ships from across the system for the lulz. Don't see much other use for it since it can't punch up.

[rich pendant]

(you need to use the beam against hostiles to get the materials to tier up the cube)

[cyan portal]

Comp chest ain't gunna help folks that are gunna lose their territories intakeovers because they can't get on nodes....

[earnest granite]

Ohhh. Well that's a silly mechanic. 😂

[languid iron]

" Commanders, We hope you are enjoying this massive new arc update!" 🤣

[elder pollen]

Are the desktop apps going to get updates pushed too? Nothing so far for the Mac client.

[wicked olive]

@tacit obsidian why do you and Scopely patch the game without testing it on a special Test-Server ? it's every month the same big problem.... bugs bugs bugs which you have to fix after the update... it's very annoying every time. Other online-Games use test-server to check new coding before they go online on the main-servers.

[sleek ibex]

This has got to be the most seriously bugged arc debut I can recall in my time here. The compensation chest needs to be MASSIVE, hate to be the one to break the news 🤣

[paper jackal]

Nice announcement. Talk about tone deaf. No more spending.

[shut latch]

It’s my considered opinion that Scopley needs to stop the arcs and focus on fixing all the buggs as well as reset all of the imprisoned hostiles that have been trapped in purgatory for the last 5 years !!! Those trapped hostiles in Aug space are consuming memory you know!!! They are objects that get allocated , but never freed !!!!

[ashen lantern]

Regarding the announcement, I'm unable to claim missions on PC. Not sure how a google/apple patch helps PC and Mac users.

[mighty oracle]

Joke of the year that evryone is enkoying the cube😂😂 worst start of an arc ever. Never seen so Many bugs than now🤦🏼 who ever just posted the update is not playing the game. I cant take this serious😂😂😂 stop adding new things and fix the game! Get a test server! And a 4th picard 🤦🏼 worst thing is the new terri battelpass, now we have to be more online than ever🤮 no wonder People are quitting

[granite field]

When your customers are suffering, not being able to play the game, not being able to complete milestones, all you can really do is claim that it’s been a wonderful launch and how the universe is now assimilated. You are really not in touch with your audience are you…

[brisk crystal]

Yes, the beam is totally underpowered and useless

[haughty condor]

Are you guys aware of the Tron disc graphic issue started during incursion? When I would go over to server 63 to invade, I was seeing that glitch then.

[wraith saddle]

There is a significant part of your customer base that doesn't use discord. And you have an already existing method in game to communicate with players. It would be really helpful if Scopely used the in-game announcement system to make official announcements.

[exotic bison]

Daily goals chests should now be working as intended.
We hope you are enjoying this massive new arc update! Scopely you guys are joking right? Not funny at all

[scenic pivot]

There needs to be a comp chest for the dailies bug (just 1 of many) and it should have at least 1 day of full dailies rewards from the top row of chests

[grim obsidian]

Same issue… most items done but not registered

[exotic bison]

Next they start to say it's your wifi

[sleek ibex]

My app has crashed literally 10 times since I’ve been trying to complete ONE event. This is truly the definition of unplayable. Can’t blame my wifi scopely, everything else works just fine! 🤔

[exotic bison]

And just one more thing, that update what we all can download tomorrow should be available right now and not tomorrow after daily reset so we can collect our rewards right now. It seems to me that scopely is just trying to cut us out some rewards on purpose

[gray hawk]

Quick! Get your wallets out!

[grim obsidian]

“it’s your wifi… no no.. you gotta clear localization… I mean.. sounds like you need to upgrade your phone storage or delete some apps… have you tried turning it off and on again?… it works fine on my device…. The PC version is working fine, try on there…”
Most common responses received right there

[limber mesa]

they better not skip the bajoran badges and syndicate xp that some people have unlocked as final chest reward.
and the loyalty badge.

[scenic pivot]

Would be nice, but I'd take a week of loyalty badges or something like that too, I suppose

[rigid spruce]

@tacit obsidian can I just say that the recent announcement suggesting that there has been positive feedback is poor. The whole thing has been a disaster and the way of dealing with this should have been an acknowledgement and an apology. There are still so many aspects of this arc that remain unplayable for us all and your post just shows a lack of respect to both paying and f2p players. Can I suggest this is feedback and a genuine appropriate apology issued and that some form of compensation is considered beyond the chest debacle.

[polar basin]

@tacit obsidian Well the daily goals are not working as intended. I currently have 35 points for today and no faction mining, no research, no building upgrades options.

[exotic bison]

How about i raid your cookies, perhaps that will fix it 😋

[limber mesa]

there are probably people who like flying their new cube around, i know i would.
and i like the much better UI scaling on PC, much better screen use.

but the bad does massively outweigh the good so far.

[rigid oyster]

Pew Pew and kill your 🖥 computer

[limpid warren]

I am still unable to claim missions in the holodeck after the new patch announcement

[silk charm]

" For the holodeck issues for those still unable to claim missions: a new patch has been submitted to Google/Apple and we are expecting it to go live tomorrow once they approve the update."
Said patch hasn't gone out to you yet
#⭐-official-announcements message
no specific ETA yet for the PC client, but i would imagine one will be coming in a similar timeframe

[shadow adder]

Does this new patch apply to PC Client, as I still can't claim the mission at the moment

[tropic sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[frail pond]

Damn scopely, what did you not break in the latest update
?

[polar basin]

Game Chat is working right now

[devout dragon]

Can’t help reading the latest announcement from scopely and thinking they are oblivious to the annoyance of everyone and that they think we absolutely love all the news bugs.

[gray hawk]

The Store

[ashen lantern]

I'd imagine it'll apply with a quick update.

[remote flume]

My experience as well. Anytime I have a complaint about something not working properly and causing me to lose out on rewards, they play these cards exactly.

[winged storm]

25 are in the free path

[next haven]

BP drops are horrendous.

[nocturne steeple]

@desert seal @north perch @torn saffron @twilit mango
For the last few months I have been trying to dual grind Klingon and Romulan rep but due to a weird math error even though I have set up my +rep research and skills to have equal gains from kills on Romulan and Klingon ships. The Math is not adding at all. For example I just killed a level 39 Veteran Federation Trader in Bolarus, according to both the game and STFC the ship should award a base rep amount of
-13,340 Federation Rep
1778 Klingon Rep
3558 Romulan Rep
First off atm I'm using a ISS Jellyfish so the Devotion Bonus does not apply and my fed rep is locked at 1B so I will not be listing it. Also I am not using any officers that give bonuses to rep gains at all. Last I have no Attrition research.
My bonuses are as follow: (Rom/Kling)
Apprentice: 50%/50%
Pike/Rekar/Kang: 0%/0%
Notoriety: 5%/12%
Syndicate Rank 20 6%
Syndicate Rank 22 10%
Syndicate Rank 24 15%
FC Kirk 80% Klingon
When Adding these up you get the following:
Klingon Rep Bonus: 173%
Romulan Rep Bonus: 86%
Now when doing the MATH
Romulans: 3558 * (1 + .86) = 6618
Klingons: 1778 * (1 + 1.73) = 4854
But what I actually got in-game was
Romulan: 7224
Klingon: 5636
Now the possibility of my have some number wrong did cross my mind but what I have listed is every source of rep bonus I have. So either the numbers I'm being displayed are wrong or the system is calculating the rep either wrong or in some way that is counter intuitive to how MATH is supposed to work. So if possible if would be very nice if we could get the actual formula that is used to calculate rep gains. as always ending up with more rep then I'm supposed to has added so much time to the grind as I have to go back and correct the difference every few days.

[nocturne prawn]

and you didnt finish them this morning before the fix ? Because the fix doesnt give you back the progress for anything you had already done, it only let them work again. Thats why there will be a comp chest

[acoustic cloud]

@tacit obsidian
Not even remotely.

[safe edge]

Read the room, Scopely. There is limited enjoyment among even your most devoted players thanks to extremely poor rollout of this arc.

[haughty tendon]

just got a comp chest i am overwhelmed 10m dil

[polar mirage]

Anyone see the issue here?
Is it an actual unlock or no….
Uhhh…..

[mild steppe]

Announcement says dailies are working. I still do not have credit for dailies completed since last nights reset

[dire yew]

Personally seen about 3 dozen 53+ players quit in the last couple months from the overall direction Scopely has swan dived into. Scarily, including a 60, but you know what, you keep posting how excited you are about your "new content" while being blind deaf and dumb to the majority of your player base. Adios Scopes, from a 3 year player.

TLDR: No one likes what you're doing, it's terrible and you should fire the people responsible for the last 3-4 months.

[undone stag]

@tacit obsidian I take it there will be another compensation chest for the fact that 2 days in and the game is still botched and this is purely for the dailies not scoring.

[gray hawk]

What an insult of a compensation chest

[exotic bison]

This is a bad joke

[mighty oracle]

What a joke, comp chest not even worth to open🤦🏼 even that you messed up 😂😂😂 maybe if you are a lvl 5 you would get some excitment

[dire jewel]

Yall seem to forget at one time Scopely thought Origins Burnham was a good compensation gift also.

[polar mirage]

What compensation chest? Nothing here yet….and my event store is gone, my recruit page disappeared, says no gifts…

[signal raft]

That's the comp chest?

[gray hawk]

First of all your "maintenance" bugs us, then your lack of communication insults us, then your "explanation" insults us and then you drive the nails into the coffin lid with this pathetic "not got a clue or give a damn" compensation chest just to add to the insult. You are really showing that you as a company are so out of touch and don't care about the player base or the game.

[exotic bison]

This is my remaining daily so keep that crap and send me my daily compensation 🤬

[devout dragon]

Absolute joke of a compensation gift, doesn’t actually compensate for what I’m missing lol. Scopely have literally no idea it seems.

[fallow widget]

when is the pc version for holodeck getting fixed?

[coarse walrus]

Scopely,

[gray hawk]

It's in a queue, just behind the Commodore Vic20 and the Atari

[wicked olive]

@tacit obsidian @nova sierra the compensation chest was a joke 👎

[charred stump]

So nice to see 61+ players in the brackets for 51-60. It's bad enough that players that can't even refine rare G5 are in the same bracket as players that can refine epics, and now you're throwing G6 into the same bracket? Can you please hire some people who can put thought into this stuff?

[charred stump]

You can say that about everything Scopley does lately. They botch everything

[meager hound]

I hope you’re joking, cause if you’re not you’re a bunch of idiots, oh wait we already know you’re idiots cause you never check or test anything and just break the game even more with your BS so called updates.

[livid spear]

The irony

[tall knoll]

I don't think I've ever finished them all 👀

[vagrant dust]

@tacit obsidian What the heck is going on with game notifications for mobile players using an Android?

[exotic bison]

I could ask the same question for iOS. Our alliance got over 80 members and i get armada notification for all their solo armadas 🤬

[nova sierra]

comp chest for dailies is insulting

[icy umbra]

Not seen this before so sorry if it’s a repeat: away teams store / I don’t have the option to buy Rep for a previously maxed faction that is no longer maxed. When will this option come to the store please?

[vagrant dust]

I'm not getting any notifications at all. It's quite frustrating. Especially with trying to keep my base shielded.

[teal brook]

What a tone deaf announcement.

[grizzled thicket]

80

[fluid crystal]

They haven't cared to respond in weeks... on samsung if you use the Galaxy STore version of the game it has notifications if you use the play store (googl'es version ) then it doesn't

[vagrant dust]

Thank you for the heads up! I guess I'll have re-download the game.

[fluid crystal]

comp chest for dailies should have been the whole dailies rewards content

[nova sierra]

Play store is Nov 2nd version. Galaxy store is Nov 7th

[zealous trellis]

So everyone gets a comp chest even if they didn't do dailies until after the fix? So everyone who got screwed is still just screwed. Also the comp chest did not contain everything missed.

[unborn talon]

Keep on dreaming

[fluid crystal]

Oh I knew they woudln't give half of it

[dim hemlock]

The Scopely ship was sinking. In an attempt to save the ship,the devs tried to patch the leak but made a huge hole instead. You can hear the band playing Nearer my God to thee!

[obtuse parcel]

The announcement update about the BUGS you all created for the update is hardly genuine. And I wonder why this game is dying.

[knotty hearth]

Dont forget the scopely "Store" always works flawlessly without fail

[stoic fable]

@tacit obsidian the daily compensation gift is not even matching what we should get by doing them(no lat, no dil….). we did the daily and were not getting our due, not even talking about compensation. It’s not a joke, it’s an insult to our intelligence…

[vast oyster]

This is an insult, add 1k parsteel and 500 Dilithium to make it worth the time of ops 49 to 60.

[edgy harness]

Nah, the whole post reads like a passive aggressive foo to the community.

[dim hemlock]

With everybody buying borg cubes where’s the incentive for them to fix anything. They’re far too busy processing borg cube sales to bother with the game

[frail inlet]

Hey Scopely, since you cheap out on the comp chest for this mess, I will cheap out on future purchases for quite a while.

[teal harness]

The compensation chest was an insult.

[edgy harness]

It’s meant to only be the daily mega chests items

[celest olive]

This is annoying. Gray out the button or at least give me a countdown.

[crimson cedar]

The compensation box is missing the syndicate xp and bajoran badges I was shorted

[dim hemlock]

Same here

[grim obsidian]

Pathetic and insulting compensation chest considering all the new bugs and issues we’ve been facing so far.. do better scopely. 🤦‍♂️

[azure arch]

I am lvl 58.... very dissapointed. Thinking I may do a LONG shield and do something else for a bit until Scopely figures things out.

[gray hawk]

Have you got 5yrs worth?

[native thistle]

😆

[frail magnet]

And losing out on the Bajoran bonus daily chest too

[knotty geode]

Everyone is too critical of Scopely. Do you realize how hard it is to screw up EVERYTHING?

[sly pulsar]

Imagine... just imagine if there was an industry standard best practice model for testing and release management that focussed on customer and user experience in it's delivery approach 😳 It'd be a game changer if someone came up with a standardised approach that worked!! Imgaine it!!

[knotty geode]

Try the store. 😉

[vast summit]

TC broken, missions broken, Voyager space broken, etc., etc., and the compensation chest was pathetic! 😡

[potent crag]

every time I go into any territory

[potent shard]

So I see a comp which looks like it's for the daily mission screw up. Where is the territory node comp?

[knotty geode]

When the error code reaches 60, you get a free Realta BP.

[vast summit]

Lol - error code 5 message almost as bad a “your treasury chest is full”!

[formal bay]

This is an insult! Would it have been that hard to match the full daily rewards? I think I speak for most, and certainly myself when I say that we are most interested in the final daily rewards (270 points) which are the syndicate xp and bajoran badges. Neither of those are present in the comp chest, and based on not enough points to get them from the remaining dailies they will not be achievable. Thanks for the loyalty badge, but you could have done better.

[atomic rune]

So where’s the missing rss and synd xp from the “comp chest”?

[lavish dagger]

my thoughts exactly, this isn't a full daily pull which i can't get because of their screw up. I swear Eco doesn't play this game or have any clue.

[nova sierra]

The compensation sent today was wholly inadequate

[gray hawk]

The only game Scopely staff play is playing their player base for fools and cash cows

[subtle sinew]

The new arc, which would have been exciting, is now an insufferable mess of glitches, lost rss, and an overall disappointment. Hopefully there are lessons learned here that will be considered with future arc roll-outs. As for compensation, at this point, you should just give everyone the new cube. And while you are at it, add transwarp conduit capabilities (instant jump) and cloak. Thank you!

[hardy parcel]

I've been asking that for about a month now. Zero response.

[signal anvil]

The we’re so happy and excited for this arc release from your official channel is a load of 💩. You don’t even consider a comp for the delayed broken release yesterday. we get that sad token comp earlier today. The whole release is an epic fail! i’d tell you to keep the comp gift if you would just fix the game. However, i know that’s not going to happen while you continue to pat yourself on the back for this release. It won’t take much more of this blowing sunshine at us when it’s a 💩 storm we’re trying to play. Just fix already!

[undone hare]

Active takeover on 76 and the lag is so bad it is not fun or fair, I can't even target or attack. By far the most lag I have seen. Awful. Just Awful

[fathom gulch]

see.. even the universe doesn't like ZEN and SOL fighting... lol

[tropic crown]

That because those use Area 51 tech on loan from the Air Force.

[tropic crown]

We are Borg!

[blazing monolith]

Scopely.... there's more than this in the daily milestones. You're literally cutting us short and giving us the proverbial finger by calling it "compensation". We're still due... get your stuff together. Get it all together. Get your stuff together... put it in a backpack and get it together.
Get. Your. Stuff. Together.

[limber mesa]

so.. no compensation for the 270 points dailies chest some people missed?
the compensation didn't include any bajoran badges or syndicate xp.

[burnt gazelle]

"The comps for the Daylie goal issue is now live! Head over to your gifts tab to claim." mine wasn't a comp chest, it was what I would've normally earned. I'm normally a smidge more forgiving but in this case a better choice of words would've made me more respected. There's a big difference between "we made sure you got what you earned" vs "we're giving more for screwing up" and with the recent communication gaps it is going to be very easy to take the comp chest the wrong way and generate negative feelings.

[lilac oar]

Not to mention FSEP tokens wasted by trying to even play in the disco light system. more than a day and a half to fix things and Territory is still broken, FSEP is still broken, Mission in the holodeck are still broken. I'm sure there are more.

[vestal grotto]

Cant even activate he bonuses in Territory.

[tropic sphinx]

I was able to mine a full boat in FSEP system despite the disco lights. It doesn't make it impossible to mine... just harder.

[rigid hornet]

I must quit this game it's getting harder and harder to load goodbye

[harsh coral]

Since most Androids are based on the version of Linux.... Why don't you people use Yellow Dog Linux ..... Since it was used to program PlayStation 3 games..... And if you're actually a gamer in any of sense of the word .... SCOPELY programmers you know how good the PlayStation 3 could have ended up being if it still was being developed properly....

[mild steppe]

We are owed substantially more for the dailies.

[undone hare]

How do I speak to a scopley manager? Game play tonight is awful. Territory take over was unplayable.

[harsh coral]

@tacit obsidian .... This is really bad Please do something about it...I can't even get into the interior of my base

[lyric saddle]

what happened to the event shop after the last arc we never got one, we'rent we supposed to get one at the end of every arc

[tropic crown]

Didn’t we have one but it sucked.

[tropic crown]

https://tenor.com/view/titanic-breaks-sinking-ship-gif-15967933

[cyan heron]

I wonder if Scopley even bothers or cares to notice the 1300+ who voted this is💩

[tropic crown]

As long as people are spending they couldn’t care less. I mean seriously they had yet another massive arc launch fail and hours went by with no info.

[surreal otter]

We hear from DJ long before anything official and that's just weird.

[exotic bison]

Getting better by the minute, now all my factions are gone. And yes i did restart and yes my wifi is fine

Now this is my daily and not that cheap compensation we got.

[wise wadi]

This game is next to broken.. like in a chair next to I don't work.

[pastel path]

It does seem like sending out the 270 points so we could all collect our own ops sized daily goals might have been a better route lolol

[junior sierra]

@tacit obsidian what is the deal with the new ship tier up costs ? 69K lat for a T1-> T2 envoy, 126.85K lat for a T2->T3 envoy? thats crazy! do the new insanely expensive speed ups require confirmation? this is not good.... this will make scrapping and ship xp events a nightmare.

UPDATE. these were costs on PC client. I checked ipad and it was Normal. I updated PC client this AM. That wasnt enough I guess. Had to hit Options, Repair and now working....

[flint spruce]

What kind of joke is that? That's not even a part we missed 🙄

[naive stream]

Sounds like you're describing Agile. They wouldn't know Agile if you hit them upside their heads with the training manual.

[buoyant vine]

Just popping in to register in this void my deep disappointment with the Borg Cutting Beam being nerfed by design if you punch up in ops level.

[hardy gorge]

Are Borg Cubes supposed to have an ops lock at t3 for ops 36 when you should be able to get it to t5 with a t6 epic ship, i.e. doable at ops 34?

[coarse junco]

How can you compare the dailies with the compensation you sent it… that’s so offensive for all of us that are here for years…

[glacial obsidian]

That comp chest is pathetic and ridiculous!! Where is the Syndicate XP? What about the lost TW cells for voyager space? And what about all those other bugs affecting gameplay???

[wise knoll]

Zoom bug still persist on all platforms, notifications not working on Android, iOS continue to crash after few minutes of play, mining rate purposed isn t correct... Developers wants to overtake a guinness world record in time to solve bugs?

[tame tree]

Ops 36 lock before a ops 34 lock lol

[leaden fiber]

❗ @rigid vapor.... ❗ Your compensation chest is an insult and goes nowhere near making up for lost rewards, never mind all the frustration that you put all the players through..... ❗

[karmic bough]

Hate to point this out but I got all those rewards last night. I did the dailies and collected the rewards. All you had to do was click the green checks

Nameless are you ok 😂 it says you’ve been typing for 9 minutes

[pastel path]

Lol sound asleep?

[leaden fiber]

I did not do any of these things unless it was for an event, as the system was clearly broken and there was no information coming from Scopely. The whole day was incompetent and a complete ** mess up**.... coming from the UK this started at 9AM and was still a mess at 8PM, perhaps even longer.
I also raised these points in very discords and also to Scopely help email, all ignored.
Maybe if your from the US, this is OK as it was a mess, only when you were sleeping.
modified due to being blocked, and its in slow mode

[exotic cloak]

Compo chest is a joke weve had better ones for smaller screw ups then this joke for one of scopelys worst screw ups yet. We should get 40 days of elite reward packs again

[stuck relic]

Comp chest failed to give Syndicate Xp and Bajoran Badges, just to name a few items I was prevented from acquiring off the top of my head. Inadequate is an understatement. I've a suspicion that bonuses from syndicate level were also lost. Thanks for the kick in the face.

[sonic burrow]

How can this be allowed in this game? 32 levels difference!!!!!
Scopely, please sort out your PVP bands as this is ridiculous.

[atomic breach]

This borg grind is ridiculous:
1° the beam needs to be able to kill at least the same level of hostile you are shooting to charge the beam
2° remove the cool down on the beam
3° Quality of life on this ship grind sucks, a very bad experience.
I can imagine the content creators not being happy after they hyped the ship this much for you and you delivering this crap
Also the compensation chest yesterday is an insult.

[tropic coral]

Are you guys joking with this compensation chest? It’s like scopely actually giving us the finger…
How can you care about your players this little? You should be ashamed

[karmic bough]

That’s in territory. There are no level limits there. Otherwise it’s very reasonable and a level 57 can’t hit anywhere near your level

[potent shard]

But still a discrepancy a 39 can hit a 25

[crude sandal]

nah, it was entirely possible to collect the individual dailies from ~6am yesterday UK (and they were appearing OK) it was just that if you collected them before ~10am, they didn't credit against the top line - it's the top line that we got the bits from in the daily comp chest. That one was as I understand it put together on the fly by the live ops guys responsible for the daily updates and was all they were able/allowed to put into a chest without prior approval.

Yes, it's entirely blah, I'm still hoping Eco and co will put together a slightly more representative chest once all the glaring (glowing?) issues are sorted, but no confirmation on that - at the moment we seem to be getting comp for individual issues as they're resolved, rather than an overall one 😐

[leaden fiber]

It was broken and everything else was broken also....it was an absolute mess..... trippled with zero communication or advice from Scopely. Do you really think it the players job to QA a pile of crap for Scopely and figure out what does and does not work.... I think not (we have employment to do).👎

[crude sandal]

Exactly, there's plenty that's broken without making up more bugs 😂

[cosmic knoll]

lol and theres a punch up tax of a flat 10% per level ... like dealing 50k to hull every 30 seconds is going to even scratch anyone in a f'ing g3 epic, let alone anyone higher ... scopely so out of touch with the game and clearly cant even add up. i suggest you camp at 35/39 and then you dont need to see anyone pvp you 61-70

[haughty tendon]

and to think the hype about this arc and how excited they were I wonder how excited they are now?

[weak grove]

Well, i must say the performance updates of the last months pay out noticably. Good work, scopely 💪👏

(it's sarcasm. we have a TC right now. no ships move and nonetheless the lag is so bad, you can barely scroll the system. not to mention this dubios error code 5 which pops up so lovely all the time)

[tepid bramble]

Because scopy LOVES them some VIPs. Get used to the BOHICA here. You’re new enough to walk away now and not feel to bad. It only gets worse unless you drop a lot of money and/or time into this pit of despair 😉

[sonic burrow]

That was a screenshot from an alliance member, I have been here for almost 4 years.
Personally I don't like the way the game has become.
I only go on it for the social side, but I detest bullies and Scopely enable them constantly.

[teal harness]

This is how popular the borg cube event is on my server. Only a handful of people at my level paid the $100 to be able to compete.

[quiet steppe]

Just read Eco's post in the official announcement section. Apparently, he hopes we are all enjoying the new arc!

He he in the same reality as the rest of us? Or maybe he has access to a fully working version of the game that we dont. No, Eco, we are not enjoying this arc. Its been the best example so far of total incompetence.

Perhaps it would be beneficial to send a few months fixing the base game, rather than forcing more broken content onto an already unstable platform.

[teal harness]

I don’t even know if eco is even paid for doing damage control.

[sonic burrow]

One player on our server has a Cube that is 168mill!!!

[nova sierra]

what a good way to say: "search an other way to spend yor time and money"to all your fellow users scopely @tawny nimbus

[signal junco]

This is in territory, territory is an exception and has always allowed all ops levels to pvp. The pvp bands in territory have to be all levels, otherwise an alliance full of 30's could challenge a whale alliance and no one would fire a shot

[sonic burrow]

Fair enough, but still.

[frozen frigate]

Really feel bad for your product & content development teams. You darn well know your content pods are working countless hours on avoidable rework while your directors, and sales leads are pushing quarterly objectives to meet revenue targets of EPS (earnings per share) on your most recent acquisition in Tel' aviv. Now, i'm almost positive your product teams are working overtime on avoidable rework to meet stupid deadlines on sales objectives punishing your customers.

Not only that, but your outsourced customer support teams are increasing operational expenses per ticket based on your horrible product milestones where it's clear your teams cannot operate effectively at the pace your board is demanding.

Why not take a slow down, to speed up approach? How about you invest into a pre-staging environment, and a parallel effort to quality assurance and regression tests instead of your YOLO model of hope it works in production. Cut the crap around new content and create a stable, reliable platform that your customers are demanding.

This is an empathetic communication on your teams that are grittin & grinding to meet revenue targets as the primary objective, and what you want opaque is clear as day there is a disconnect from executive leadership down to the customer; punishing your audience that has negativity sky high. Turn it around, and get out of your own way.

Perfect example of rework on your universally deployable code framework. This is your leaders fault, not the development team.

[chilly sorrel]

So those who can't unlock the cube until Monday miss out on the cube event. Make it right scopley??

[turbid vapor]

On ALL devices. It's a universal issue.

[elder pollen]

Still waiting for the 80.0.1 app update 🙄

[candid forge]

Suggestion to help lower ops levels advance faster in the game. The ISS Jelly service should be move to 2* territories at this point. Monaveen should be in all 3* areas.

[rotund yew]

SO we wait 2 days for one of the new missions for the event (no idea where the others are) to find that the first one cant be completed for the event unless you buy it. So Scopely are now trying to force us to spend money. What a joke this game is getting

[brisk vector]

Will Scopley have any black Friday deals like drydocks or other things at half price?

[rough belfry]

<@&509690795536941056> this is some crappy Customer service. Simply redirecting the ticket to some other department that closes out the ticket due to "no response" overnight while I'm sleeping. And my issues isn't even listed on the very long list of known issues but I won't even get a custom response anyways? What's the point of opening a ticket if all I get is a boiler plate response that doesn't even address the issue?

[vestal grotto]

well we got a PC update, but no Android update, I can now get holodeck missions on my PC now but not my Andriod Phone. However I still cannot activate Territory bonuses.so We are missing the ability to get territory shards, items, and bonuses. We lost one day so far after capturing territory and the other Territory bonuses were removed so we have no Territory bonuses even for the ones we already activated.

[placid rain]

any news on when this patch is coming through?? It's seriously hampering my progress now as I can't unlock the ex-borg faction through the level 38 mission 😦

[shut cairn]

just seen an update available on Android, might be it

[vestal grotto]

Android update just came out

[round shard]

Between the Cube mission and the premium Battlepass are we going to end up with too many blueprints?

[somber orchid]

No Apple update though

[jagged scarab]

Borg Cube is a terrible ship and doesn't do what Scopely said it's role is. It's another garbage loop with mild payoffs in a reaseach tree. Screw this.

[sullen matrix]

@digital bridge @tacit obsidian can you ask the devs why there is still no update for the away team store?. It still ends with G4 Ships.

[wet meteor]

Holodeck works in new Android version but PC version still broken

[jagged scarab]

PC just picked up the missions.

[hollow root]

After update , node capture ok, no more error 5 , but there seems to be an inconsistency about the time

[wet meteor]

Just got the patch on PC now

[vast oyster]

No one here can start armadas in any ECL system besides Lindstrom

[kind minnow]

great one system to run 40 exchange armadas ;p was already crappy with armadas all ran in 20 mins but this is even worse

[gray hawk]

More chance of the Pope getting married!

[abstract pecan]

You’ve made the mistake of thinking that customer support are there to help you. They are not. Their only objective is to close tickets as quickly as possible to keep their metrics looking good, regardless of whether the outcome satisfies customers. Got to keep the execs hitting their targets for their bonuses!

[narrow bridge]

Love the new armada feature of not being able to start in newer exchange 😂
The comp chest didn't provide any comp for missing bio materials or faction rep and credits for the missing mining events and broken swarn dailies.

[desert jasper]

Sucks not getting missions yet on Apple/MAC🤬

[untold laurel]

The ticket I opened gave a response that said “no custom messages will be sent after this point” so I didn’t reply then support got angry I didn’t reply to their post that said I wouldn’t get a reply. And the question they asked was already answered in my ticket they clearly didn’t read, just sent an automated question that had nothing to do with what I asked. Support is even worse at their jobs than the QA testing department.

[tropic crown]

So afraid to do the new mission with all the bugs this arc!

[untold laurel]

I also love how support takes days to reply and give you like an hour to respond to them or they just close the ticket. Garbage. Especially when they reply at like 3am local time.

[nova sierra]

What an atrocious arc launch. The subsequent follow up to all the issues is just as bad. Your community manager starts out an announcement saying we hope you're enjoying the arc so far. How could we? By far this is the most unorganized and unprofessional company in terms of launches and testing.

You should be ashamed of yourselves. My suggestion is stop making fluff videos and posts like everything is great and take a look at what's customer facing.

It's embarrassing.

[ripe thicket]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar with no counter to Prime station delay and now the borg CUBE with 4 shots turn 1, 2 shots turn 2 and 4 shots turn 3, there is almost no point in playing anymore. You have made this game heavy spend to defend, not to thrive, just to barely defend. my biggest ship is being 1 shotted, CUTTING BEAM, before I can do anything. Before it was bad enough that I could be one vollied but I had hopes I could get a shot off and do something, not...NOTHING.

You have killed the fun and competitiveness in the game. I am seeing several higher level players leaving and stop playing a lot now. We lost another 57 today. When will you all change the direction? the game is dying quickly now.

[wicked olive]

you need a patch to patch the patch for patching the patch, that cou can patch the patch

[lilac oar]

I can see you are working the issues. But please look at what is normally a 45 minute defense.

[untold laurel]

I’m a lvl 47 and am honestly thinking about quitting too. Support doesn’t care, testing doesn’t happen, events are broken or geared towards whales, there’s no fun any more.

[lone musk]

Hey so, do ya think the devs are aware that the "USS Akira" is actually not the Akira, but actually the USS Thunderchild 😂😂

[tropic crown]

They don’t care as long as people are buying cubes.

[lusty elk]

🤔🙃

[pale pawn]

The new Borg Cube ship:

After a great deal of testing and expense I have come to the conclusion that this ship is the WORST thing you could have come up with.

1. In order to charge the weapon you have to kill ships, this causes a great deal of frustration.

2. The weapon fully charged does so little damage to a hostile that you have to kill larger hostiles from another sector to charge it in fewer than 10 kills then fly to a lower system to have enough damage to kill a hostile in one shot. One kill does NOT get you enough material for a pull in the refinery, so you have to do this MANY MANY Times to do a pull greater than a minimum pull. The absolute worst grind I've ever seen.

3. After T7 it requires RARE 4* battleship parts. At ops 52 I cannot GET rare battleship parts except in very small, random quantities from the refinery and other ways. So in order to get one upgrade on my new and expensive Cube now it will take me THREE MONTHS OF PULLS to get enough rare battleship parts to upgrade ONE WEAPON on this thing at T8.

4. The yield from the refinery of research components will take me a YEAR to get that research up to par.

WHAT WERE YOU PEOPLE THINKING?

(Compound this with the hastle of the Zoom bug hitting you and having to restart the game every third time I warp to another sector because I can't target a hostile after this zoom bug hits.)

[lost forge]

Did you see titanic? That group working for scopley is stuffing their pockets with loot and their faces with wine 😂 they don’t care about any past their own pay. 💰

[tropic sphinx]

In order to charge the weapon you have to kill ships, this causes a great deal of frustration.

Why does this frustrate you? Most of the game mechanic is grinding... this is grinding.

The weapon fully charged does so little damage to a hostile that you have to kill larger hostiles from another sector to charge it in fewer than 10 kills then fly to a lower system to have enough damage to kill a hostile in one shot. One kill does NOT get you enough material for a pull in the refinery, so you have to do this MANY MANY Times to do a pull greater than a minimum pull. The absolute worst grind I've ever seen.

The charge is tied to hull health of the hostiles you are killing. So, yeah... in the system the cutter can hit, you're looking at 7-10 kills to charge. There is research to improve this number.

After T7 it requires RARE 4* battleship parts. At ops 52 I cannot GET rare battleship parts except in very small, random quantities from the refinery and other ways. So in order to get one upgrade on my new and expensive Cube now it will take me THREE MONTHS OF PULLS to get enough rare battleship parts to upgrade ONE WEAPON on this thing at T8.

Multiphasic store... battle ship power pack.

The yield from the refinery of research components will take me a YEAR to get that research up to par.

You know... and I know you know this... there will be a research pack, probably tomorrow, when the upgrade cube event ends and a research event starts. That's how scopely has ALWAYS run these things. So that everyone who went ahead and spent the research credits they had will have to buy to score.

WHAT WERE YOU PEOPLE THINKING?

The answer is always the same. "Show me the money!!!"

[pale pawn]

You seem to think that spending hours killing reds I have no other use for just to very slowly gather materials for a pull I am only doing for research materials (Because this ship has absolutely no other use) is fun.... Not when I have 4 other specialize ship grinds already going for similar reasons. Y'all talk about this thing like its the hottest toy out there, but it's just adding more time sink factor into a game that has too much already

They need to fix the BUGS first, the crashes, hung transitions and zoom bug issues are completely out of hand... so how about fixing this garbage first before new and tedious content?

[hardy parcel]

Exactly. Scopely claimed they were trying to reduce how grindy and time-consuming the game is in that regard, but they keep making it worse.

[wind jackal]

When do we get rid of all the errors difficult to play the way it is now

[rancid owl]

Hey obviously it seems like literally is broken, but with the compensation gifts, can we try and focus them on things that are failing. Like a NICE stack of uncommon/rare anomaly. FSEP is almost unsafe/literally unplayable. @tacit obsidian Sorry for the ping, but I think that's worthy and you might already have this noted. Best of luck

[pale pawn]

Most of the game is reaching "Unplayable"

[sullen matrix]

you dont have to restart the app to fix the zoom bug, just switch to another app and go back

[potent shard]

You don't have to do that neither. Just go to chat act like your going to type and return to screen

[covert wave]

Unable to start Exchange armadas during exchange event. Things keep getting better and better.

[rich elm]

🍿

[pale pawn]

It works sometimes, but often it causes the interface to become glitchy and returns quickly... SO after once or twice you NEED to restart or things just get so jacked up you can't move. At any rate having to work around bugs all the time is UNACCEPTABLE when they've been persisting for MONTHS.

[summer geode]

Omg Eclipse armada event and you can only start armadas in Lindström. all other 40 systems show armada error4 when you stry to start one.

[nocturne prawn]

its hardly the first event you have only been able to do if you spend a fortune, i expect no change

[woeful nymph]

Guys...this is just...sad. Look at the timer.....

[nocturne prawn]

you can actually use nodes ? gasps

So of my alliance folks online from PC, half have working holodeck now, the other half dont despite updating

[neat ruin]

the amount of punching down in this game is insane.

[acoustic cloud]

but doesn't it motivate you to buy more packs so you too can punch down?

[mystic vine]

Eclipse Armadas dont work north of Lindstrom & Mige

[nocturne prawn]

So even as the patch comes out, it doesnt work for everyone, people still have, with the patch installed yes, no access to the holodeck missions on PC . and you have just replaced one territory issue with another it seems oh dear

[uncut haven]

So are your comp chest going to be insulting and garbage like the bs you’ll gave us yesterday and cutting the amount you get from packs I refuse to spend anymore correct or no money

[hardy parcel]

That's it? Not one acknowledgement of the busted eclipse armadas @tacit obsidian ?

[nova sierra]

No G5 scrapping, no G6 away team missions?

[random nexus]

@tawny nimbus having issues on 107 trying to get the holodeck missions, i and others updated the game and was told by a few players to do it again, there’s no update available.

[nocturne steeple]

<@&509690795536941056> @DEVS Return all sources of G4 ship parts that are taken away once you reach the 50's, quick and easy solution to a problem you created that never should have existed in the first place.

[leaden fiber]

Update done.....
Well done scopely

[thorn cape]

Really? 😂🤣 i like disco 💃 but this is a little to much for old people like me 😅

[mighty oracle]

Is this a joke? How does this compensate us as players? Still cant start armadas in new rouge space still cant collect mission etc. Etc. Are you trying to lose players on purpose??.

[tropic sphinx]

This is because territory captures were messed up.

[woven sonnet]

Not gonna lie, this TC compensation chest is pretty bust. TC season pass points that we're going to get anyways. Theres no TC overflow so its irrelevant. Least you could have done is like ISO for refines or something. Gvie people a chest that would actually same them a little bit of time somewhere

[wild gulch]

Looks like you cannot complete The Cube Mission, and therefore cannot complete the New Missions SMS without buying the BattlePass. Part 4 of the mission is to build the cube.

[mighty oracle]

Still scoply should Lau Down flat apoligise and redede themselves by sending a Big comp chest to al imo.

[keen gorge]

Does anyone know how to mine “hazard particles” as there are no nodes I can find in hazard space?

[ancient plinth]

Sweet! Another meh compensation gift from the generous staff at Scopely! Go 🤬 yourselves, you lousy 🤬 s! 😃

[woven sonnet]

You should make it a policy that everytime you send out a Comp chest, that it includes 1,000 syndicate points... I promise you itll make alot more people be less cranky

[mighty oracle]

Is this for real?

[wild gulch]

I'll screenshot

[mighty oracle]

@tropic sphinx Can you confirm that with the mission?

[tropic sphinx]

Confirm what?

[elder hornet]

Great job scopely. Once again you have gone above and beyond to show how little you care about your customers. Are to the point there all the other game companies, then there several hundred feet of pure garbage before we get to you.

[signal anvil]

It would be nice if you quit trying to blow smoke up our backsides for 💩show of a update. The comp gift is adequate for the TC issues but don’t cover the broken update you pushed out. stop insulting our intelligence! Just fix it!

[mighty oracle]

That you have to buy battlepass to finish mission sms ( build cube)

[vale wasp]

What more do you need than the picture? it's true.

[heady shadow]

They have no other source that ive found to get it besides buying it. So yes you have to pay to finish the missions event. What a joke.

[vale wasp]

It's not the bp though, it's building a cube. You can buy the 100 offer.

[limber mesa]

sub-adequate as it's the 2nd "compensation" that doesn't cover what we've missed out on.

[modern vault]

what's this? 🙄

[tropic sphinx]

According to previous posts and I think the news on the website... If you buy the battlepass, you will get a full cube unlock at or near the end. I saw somewhere that it was also announced that the cube bp pack will also be in the holiday store.

[mental dawn]

Is tehre anything Scopely has not broken with this update? I mean, we don't expect anything anymore but this is getting slightly ridiculous...

[scenic sleet]

by milestone 12

[mighty oracle]

@tropic sphinx this not the cube. The cube mission

[tropic sphinx]

I cannot currently accept the missions in the holodeck to check. But there is a requirement in one of the missions that is also part of the SMS to build the cube. 2 ways to get the cube right now. 1) Buy the whole unlock. 2) buy the elite Battlepass for $20 and you'll have it in about 8 days. Which is more than enough time to complete the SMS.

[mighty oracle]

So it is a pay to finish sms 🤦🏼 as you wont get all the bp for the cube in this arc. Unless you pay for battlepass .

[tropic sphinx]

It does look that way. As a consolation, the mission SMS rewards are on the lame side of the fence. Not terrible, but not great either. Not finishing it doesn't impact progression in the rest of the arc or battlepass. Our friends at Scopely are tieing more and more events to having to purchase something to score or win. This is a new one, but yeah... it's there. but again... it doesn't block progression in the arc to not complete it... it just means you won't get it completed until you get the cube.

[mighty oracle]

I know you have nothing to do with it. But this is why players stop playing. Shame, myself thinking of quitting as this had become to Much of a grind. With the new terri battlepass also Bering more time consuming

[tropic sphinx]

No disagreement. I'm not F2P, but if I was I'd be pretty upset about this. I think that some of us that bought and built the cube on day one are hopefully not going to get screwed over on this and be required to build another cube to complete. That would be annoying.

[autumn hinge]

Then to send out a comp chest - that doesn't actually work - lol OMG. The only way to finish all the missions in the arc - is to buy the cube? Really just give Us the bp's now.

[plucky delta]

In this game, nothing works.....except payment area

[slate orbit]

hey gramps you do know that there are no pvp bands in territories.. anything goes... thats why most big alliances can control who has territory outside of them in the territories, they just come in and help who they want to have territory and harass who they dont.

[median crane]

Some feedback: Hire some devs.

[wicked olive]

why do i get from level 50 hostiles at the federation-system fecking G3 blueprints from Intrepdit, Enterprise and antares... ????

[jaunty prism]

Hey Scopely when were you planning to announce that players who are below ops 28 get absolutely nothing from this arc? No holodeck mission, no cube BPs, nothing at all. Here's some feedback: Communicate better when you're releasing ops locked content, or better yet just don't.

[slate orbit]

you did, you did, you got the option to buy stuff in the store to level up to get stuff......

[jaunty prism]

Except now that the event has started leveling up won't even get me any of the content, and they never really said before it started that you'd miss out on everything if you weren't ops 28.

[dim pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mayweather-throwing-ls-gif-7288740

[smoky plover]

How come $$$copely is never embarrassed at how bad the product is? There always seems to be several major mechanics that are broken. You have no shame. 😦

It would be nice a change of pace for y'all ($$$copely) to just come out and admit that the game is extremely unstable. Maybe show some humility and acknowledge that you are ashamed of that fact. Also, address how you're going to fix it moving forward. You know, actually communicate please.

[untold laurel]

Why do you think they are ashamed? They’re lighting cigars with $100 bills

[summer geode]

The Eclipse Armada Event is unplayable, The whole server 163 sittin in Lindström waitin for spawning armadas. Thats sick. And no one here from the Team has something to say about that.

[coral rapids]

Because the team r 💩

[lavish solar]

Hi @royal solar , @tacit obsidian , @digital bridge, third try, perhaps it has more luck..

The third Apex Outlaw and it is the same. So:

• please remove the "Limit 2" on spending the rogue event trophy credits
• I already have 39.5K contraband chips for which I have no use, therefore the Apex Exile event is useless. Please add other items in the store to spend the contraband chips.

Also, the two compensation chests are a pure joke for the fiasco that has been with this arc<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thank you

[wild tiger]

It is ridiculous to have territory takeovers in the midst of a poorly executed rollout with the game glitching so bad I couldn’t even see my ships. The enemy could see my ships scopely you need to get your house in order.

[summer geode]

This Compensation chest is really a joke. better dont give compensation chests as such scrap chests. Unbelieveable thats a insult to all the loyal players that play stfc for years.

[livid spear]

Joke fact of today. Whats the only thing bug free in the game?? No idea, just a myth? Noooo. the only one thing that works 100% of the time iiiiiiissssss........"offers" where you can spend your real´money. Its bug free

[wet meteor]

Someone posted a bug about the store a day or two ago although I note that it may have been something to do with their browser rather than the game... not sure

[mighty oracle]

So in order to finish the mission and solo sms event, you need to buy battlepass, Thats a new low from scoply!!! No wonder why people are Leaving game💸💰💸🤑

[sacred garden]

Apple update is now out

[tropic sphinx]

Didn't we have this discussion like 2 hours ago? You're acting like this is news to you... but we hashed it out already.

[summer geode]

i think this cant be often enough posted here!

[mighty oracle]

We did, but just posting again with own experience. What do we need to pay for next? Might actually be against eu gaming regulations

[mighty oracle]

Forgot this

[valid lagoon]

server down?

[void timber]

Since last update the game is nearly unplayable. Every change between systems brings a crash. If there ate too many players in a system.. the game crashes., if you go daily events, crash. if you go to chests.. crashe.. crashes crashes.. but only on apple, ipad Pro 9,7 on a Samsung galaxy 10, all runs fine. But playing on such small screen is no fun. Fix the issues on apple. It's getting more worse with every update.

[quartz blade]

great job scopley now you bugged augment space cant get there now to mine says inacessable need to complete missions done that a long time ago im lvl 44

[crimson stream]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[gray nexus]

Feedback: fix the rogue armadas, then resign. This arc is a 💩

[nova sierra]

F2P gets 25 plans for the Borg Cube in the BP without a cent and the remaining plans in the December shop. Who paid €100 has the Borg Cube immediately, who has paid €23 has it in a few days in Elite BP. There has never been a new ship immediately for nothing. Actually, there was always at least 3 months waiting time for F2P. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Everyone knew it before. Much worse is that this game only consists of bugs. People don't stop in rows because they have to pay... but because this game and its mistakes are slowly hardly playable anymore

[last nest]

wow you actually havnt played this game the beginning of the game ships were gainable for free until apparently the paying people are so gullible they made all of them end of arc obtainable or 100+ days after if you want it free. but go off if you like your leash

botany bay, dvor were given at the beginning of the arc so from a logical understanding you would do the events, but you paying fruits are so easily manipulated you pay for arcs battlepass to get the ship in the end of arc while missing said events. literally was fine first release ever and now you paying to just do things that were free when they first started lmao, gullible consumers ruin mostly everything

[jaunty prism]

Unless of course you're not ops 28 and therefore get screwed out of the plans for this pass which then means you won't be able to get it free in December. Also have they actually confirmed it will be in December? I've only heard that from Rev and people who watch Rev and Rev didn't seem sure of specifics either.

[nova sierra]

Isn't the Borg Cube free??? 25 plans this month and 75 next month. where is the problem? Honestly... I didn't buy the ship. I just have too many pointless ships in the garage. Why should people pay €100 when F2P immediately gets it for free. So a waiting time is completely understandable and correct. Someone has to pay Scoply. It's not a soup kitchen

[last nest]

you still used false information saying weve never gotten ships free, and its not 100% that we will recieve 75 in december there will BE THE POSSIBILITY to obtain but it will most likely require you to buy the battlepass in december to get the rest. anyone trusting them not to monetize the rest of the BPs is a fool. and trusting their word for future is just obscene in its self when they said they would lower the grind 2 1/2 years ago

And no one has to pay they sold their company to saudi for 3x their net worth already 🤣

[nova sierra]

Sorry... I've been playing for almost three years. As far as I remember, new ships were never available for nothing immediately on the first day. 🤷🏼‍♂️. And yes, Scoply was indirectly bought for 4.9 billion by the Saudi Arabian sovereign wealth fund. This is how it works in the world. I doubt whether the Saudis will ever get their investment back

[full herald]

no one from scopely even looks at this page..... the user interface for this game is the worst piece of 💩 and they celebrate 5 years of garbage without every fixing a bug congrats

[raven kraken]

I got credit for Complete New Missions SMS after finishing The Cube Part 3, even though the description says that Part 5 needs to be completed.

[glossy zealot]

That’s what they get for devaluing the petrodollar🤷🏻‍♀️

[burnt gazelle]

so you'll get it in December Event Store and finish the mission then, what am I missing?

[tepid bramble]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar why don’t we get the squints to reset the g5 starter boxes back to the proper numbers, hmmm Kay. Yeah that would be great. Thank you very much. (Very subtle, and very shady nerf you guys slipped in there.)

[finite mural]

they were fixed according to eco, on tuesday

[tepid bramble]

Riiiight (they aren’t by the way, and Eco’s word isn’t worth a fart in the wind)

[polar basin]

I figured out what the number in those error messages mean. armadas_error_4 means: "We will fix it in 2024"

[latent siren]

Yup, loving the new arc and all its glitches....

[kind moss]

Fix the frigging game, focus on the glitches and just stop being so damn inept at everything you roll out. Ok, rant over...nothing will change but needed to vent as the game is unplayable.

[kindred lotus]

[polar basin]

same issue. When will this be fixed? @tacit obsidian

[timid steppe]

Thank you for this 5 year anni celebration thus far. This arc's revisit of the past 5 years of bugs and issue has been great so far. Can we also get 5 years worth of comp chest as well?

[abstract zealot]

borg cube beam for borg cube parts/research really should of been based on damage delt instead of level of hostile. that way if you could punch way higher (your already high ops) that you dont need to go grind low level mobs just to grind cube parts. you wouldnt need to kill just damage delt and you could just make the cool down longer since you charge faster hitting higher hostiles.

[edgy harness]

Eh, I’ve told a few people already how I would do it and it’s relatively easy.

Hit the highest hostile you can with a relatively cheap repair ship for you, see how close you can get to almost but not killing it. Then and only then slap it with the cube ability.

Sure, might take 20-30 minutes to dial in, but the payoff will be a huge jumpstart on the loop that pays of big going forward.

Also want to make sure you avoid specialty hostiles where most of their power rating comes from the huge hull health they get so that a specialty ship is the most effective vs them (swarms and such)

[vivid breach]

OMG. The laaaaaag

[pure spear]

For those of us under ops 28, is that door just closed to us forever? Or will there be a path later on?

[jaunty prism]

I have no idea, let me know if you find out. I'm kind of thinking I'm just gonna be stuck with 75 blueprints forever after December unless I spend $$$.

[pastel path]

@jaunty prism how would you get 75?

[jaunty prism]

idk people keep saying there's gonna be 75 blueprints in a December event. I kinda think they're full of it but that's what everybody is saying.

[pastel path]

Hmm hadn't heard that.

[silk charm]

end of arc event store is what people are counting on because various sources have said the cube will be there

[pastel path]

Ahh gotcha lol that's a dice roll I guess

[tepid bramble]

So, either spend the 20$ on the bp, or probably spend the lion’s share or any event creds better spent on officers or other utility stuff. So basically a Sophie’s choice. But hey, scopy MO all the way 🤦‍♂️

[thick quest]

do the formation armadas still have bonuses against certain ship types?? i cant see that anymore when i click on them

[civic jay]

The Cube Cutter Beam is severly under powered for some of the lower teirs. Being a OPS 59 and at Teir 9 and being unable to kill a lvl 50 hostile is unreal. I feel like my investment was false advertisement. I am not seeing any benefit of having the Borg Cube.....disappointing just like the whole ARC launch. @tacit obsidian @royal solar

[wooden spire]

Investment is overstating things somewhat.

[cursive snow]

False advertising? In my stfc?

[finite mural]

what's false about it?

[civic jay]

Sure get it for a low cost of $20from the elite track. But it's going to cost you $$$ to tier it up. And it doesn't KIll my enemies, not even close. Like I said the tiering power of the beam is way off and needs to balance itself according to ones level of enemies your going to encounter. I'm sorry I don't hang out with lvl 49 ships. More like lvl 57-60 at OPS 59, just saying it doesn't scale properly.

[finite mural]

19.99 in 8 days

[tropic crown]

Last two events store sucked.

[tropic crown]

Yeah contraband chips are useless. Have the Borg skin and the hijack ships are useless.

[pastel path]

I always end up buying more RSS

[jade patio]

I think the free line on the current battlepass has 25, so the additional 75 should unlock it.

[finite mural]

Would be nice if they added other skins for the contraband chips

[jaunty prism]

Unless of course you were ops 25 when the event started like me, then you get screwed.

[torpid yew]

I love them. Do them as officers pls 😬

[lusty pollen]

I'd like to pose a question. Why do we have ships that have cargo holds that are big enough to hold 500K materials, with way less than 10% of it being safe, and from what I can tell, you're either lucky or dropping all kinds of money to be able to protect, MAYBE up to 25%. And even then, that has to be the SOLE focus of the crew on board is to protect cargo? What is the point? For that matter, why do people abuse this GLARINGLY obvious loophole made and intended to force players to either waste money on the game, or waste time literally babysitting mining ships? Are people REALLY that horrible, or am I just old fashioned and can't stand dealing with idiots who abuse a broken system?

[analog jetty]

Changing the contents of the battle pass after people buy it is bait and switch and is criminal (at least from a morality point of view, T&C's lawyer approach may allow it I guess).

Really really disgusted by this!

[violet nymph]

The last months were, and I am massively understating here, disappointing. When Rev and DJz were excited I was curious.... And now I am furious and even more disappointed than before. Everything is broken in this game and every new content and feature is 100% cash grab.
The tiering system for the Borg Cube is absolute crap. Whoever thought that having T6 ships is reasonable hasn't ever tried a F2P path. This way the cube is just useless crap that will always lag massively behind the regular faction ships.

[grave yacht]

Opc is opc just like shield or share.

[lusty pollen]

Doesn't answer my question. What is the point of having massive sized cargo holds, when you can only reliably protect MAYBE 25% of it through massive luck and/or P2P (meaning a normal F2P person with average luck is still lucky and has to forcibly heavy hand the PC of the crew just to protect 10% of it)?

[indigo summit]

& this won’t give you a seizure….

[potent shard]

You do know if you do the research and put in the correct crews you can have more than half of loot safe. Example I had a d'vor that held 400k and my protected cargo was at 280k
Also there are exocomps you use for more protection.
So this crying is moot.

[lusty pollen]

I just don't get the point of it. The function of having something like that in a game is discouraging to players that play casually, and don't put money into the game.

[potent shard]

It's called progression, growth, learning to play wisely.
What game have you ever played that gave you top notch stuff at the beginning?

[grave quest]

just some notes on the cube… even at T5, the cutting beam aka murder beam is way underpowered. it’s so annoying to power up in one system to fly to another to use it to get distinctiveness. when it can easily kill a lvl 40+ hostiles, why should i fly to a lvl 36 or smaller system to one shot a hostile. additionally, since you don’t get distinctiveness from pvp anyway and since there is a 30s cooldown, the “diminishing returns” on hitting up is absolutely dumb and is simple pandering to whales. I could however understand it if there wasn’t a cool down or if there pvp gave distinctiveness. Lastly, i really don’t want a pop up every time i activate the murder beam. Please add a “don’t show again” option like the exocoms have. Looks amazing though! buff up the murder beam and take away or strongly reduce the percentage (2-3% per level instead of 10%) and it would be near perfect.

[lusty pollen]

Allowing players to steal from each other because they can't actively watch a gathering ship like a hawk, essentially babysitting a game that is doing nothing, has nothing to do with giving players "top notch" stuff. In several games of this type, that can have your resources pillaged only allow for a certain amount to be taken, not a certain amount to be protected. This is good for people who like to PvP and steal things, but also good for people who don't and just play casually. Basically OPC in reverse here. like the whole amount is protected, except x amount, that you can upgrade to be able to steal more, or certain ships/crews let you steal more. Again OPC in reverse. It main tains a casual staying base that play for fun, and allows for higher levels to pillage each other all they want.

[potent shard]

Then this wouldn't be a MMORPG game this would be Farmville. If you don't learn how to strategically do your mining or bother to do what it takes to strengthen your ship then this is not the game for you.
Set number allowed to take? Yeah that'll never fly here.

[primal anvil]

I'm having headache because of this

[worn knoll]

After nearly 4 days, having put in a ticket, having spoken to a Dev directly, @digital bridge , I am still waiting for what I bought and paid for. @pulsar leaf this is very poor customer service indeed.

[nova sierra]

So I love it when people are OPC... more profit for me when shooting 👀🍸

[nova sierra]

Scopely Community Team should be required as a part of their duties to play the game a certain amount of hours each week on both PC and Mobile. I think a lot of bugs would get fixed if more Scopely employees actually played.

[feral spruce]

I would like to suggest that every player gets access to the Elite Battle Pass immediately with all rewards, those f2p players will benefit and all the players that bought it can get double the rewards - this should be the minimum compensation considering the monumental errors that have occurred since Tuesday

[proud marsh]

Hi I'm stuck on invaluable asset I've done 3 out of 4 missions and got 2 data pads on the 4 mission cant get the other 2 think I done the missions well before I got to this point

[cosmic knoll]

how can you get doubled rewards if you already unlocked the elite path? They couldnt be bothered comping the MANTIS, what makes you think they will bother with the cube? 😂

[slender monolith]

You’re right, what we need is realism, remove protected cargo! When your ship blows up, all cargo should be left at your wreck and taken by your attacker, and a random percentage is lost as a result.

[cosmic knoll]

every f2p will leave. all thats left will be whales, who currently do not attack other whales. and we back to a worse minecraft game. most whales kill miners (cause the smart players will shield as the only defence and the only ships out as targets are miners)
human behaviour > ideals, something scopely cant grasp

[slender monolith]

Exactly. Protection is a nice thing, embrace it and mine within it if you’re paranoid

[bitter yarrow]

Has mission claiming from Hollowdeck been fixed yet

[vale wasp]

Yes

[old seal]

Mining is a hazardous occupation ...... Scopely make it clear. Research more to increase your protected cargo... problem solved 👍

[spark acorn]

Im free to play, have no issues mining and not getting blown up. Here is how to do that. Get your miner/research for protected cargo up as high as you can, toss on crew that helps protect, dont go opc. Seriously? Lol i hunt the whales.

[hybrid urchin]

this update is a royal mess and my feedback would be to roll back the update as it is trash and unstable

[kind minnow]

but at what cost. if u have to spend all the event stuff on it.

[hardy parcel]

Game broken, and not a peep from @tacit obsidian or @royal solar .

[limber oriole]

So tired of this B.S. you fix eclipse armadas with 2 hours left and expect people to be able to finish the event? Comeon scopley

[gray hawk]

Not surprising

[kind star]

Still no solution for the missing milestone(s) in this event. Just a stupid emergency mail from support. Scopley once again in his best form! They give a bs to the players!

[tropic crown]

Tc timers are broke 30 min timer is showing 1.5 hours. How how did scopley break so many things in one update?

[woeful nymph]

Multphasic Hunter should always start on day 1 of the arc. Not 3 days later after a bunch of folks have spent $

[cosmic knoll]

never use webstore, always use the mobile stores, best way to give scopely the 2 finger salute, whilst getting what you want

[raven kraken]

Event timing is still all broken

[hardy parcel]

Good to know that @tacit obsidian is still alive after all. I thought he must be in the hospital or something since he was absolutely silent while the servers were burning.

[tropic crown]

So many things broken so little S given.

[gilded escarp]

I didn’t know people were looking for a multiphasic event, didn’t know that was a priority over the mountain of bugs going on

[raven kraken]

Do we reset at 11 or 12 now? Seems scopely can't decide either.

[tropic crown]

Got to sell those packs.

[gilded escarp]

It must have been Scopley wanting that event instead of players then

[old seal]

@tacit obsidian it's been pulled already the multi phasic event 🤣?

[jagged orchid]

Hopefully my points are still there after it comes back... not expecting much anyway. Support ticket here we come

[cinder cairn]

So, uh, anybody seeing the multiphasic event that Eco said would be there after today's reset?

[cedar falcon]

is trivia event broken as i was wondering where the last 5 questions have gone seeing it says event is over ??'

[vale wasp]

There were only 5 questions and one meta event. That's enough scoring to finish the meta. If you did all 5 questions and weren't credit enough pts in the meta, then contact CS. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[harsh thunder]

Ticket event is a snooze. If you want me to buy a $100 pack, make the rewards worth my money and my time.

[fringe tide]

@tacit obsidian
How come I can't sign in to the online store ?
I've rebooted phone several times

[elfin coyote]

Yeah, it was online for around one hour and is gone now for me 😂

[cerulean juniper]

Please hire an actual translator to localize Missions into English

[obsidian plinth]

You know things are bad when your phone suggests putting STFC in Deep Sleep due to frequent crashes 😂😂

[fringe stirrup]

Even the desktop app freezes. I think the probblem they have is that they do intensive task in the main application thread. In a mobile app, the operating system closes those apps because it thinks that the application stopped responding. Poor app design

[novel ibex]

Wow scopely really trying to weed out the Free To Play players with these pay to enter events! Here's an event that'll cost you 90 event tickets but we'll only give you 30 towards it

[elfin coyote]

Just completed a ticketed event and got +/- 100 points for the other event that needs to complete ticket events. So I'm still at 0 points. Gj 🤦🤦🤦
Edit: nvm, took 2 minutes, now the 100 points are there

[novel ibex]

I have the same problem only got 4/5 of the event rewards despite completing all 5 events. Ticket made and generic "we're looking into it" response. That was on day 2 after completing on day one. Event has now ended and still no proper response!

[fleet orbit]

I can Not find the Borg datanode in the Raffinerie.

[vale wasp]

Your epics are not high enough tier. The Tier 5 warp part for the cube requires a T6 epic.

[fleet orbit]

In my Screen, is need Tier 3 required.🤔

[vale wasp]

This is the relevant part from the borg news article. Could be localization issue.

[meager cedar]

Any word yet on Freebooters not scoring for the Heavy Hitter event?

[slender monolith]

But even that list shows G3 Epic for up to T6 cube

[tropic sphinx]

G3 Epic OR G4 Unc @ T6. You don't have to get all the ships to go to the next tier. If you don't get G3 Epic, but do get G4 Unc to tier 6, then you automatically go T6 on cube.

[slender monolith]

Ohh ok, i see what its referring to.

[narrow bridge]

@tacit obsidian seriously please look at the bandings for SLBs for over L50. We must have over 250 L50+ and already on our server we have a number of L62. In heavy hitter I am in same bracket as everyone L50 to the L62. Ridiculous that me as L52 and only G4 ships can compete against those with G5 epics. Same for the mats spend SLBs a L52 can never compete against those 56+ as they get much more mats etc in events.

[hearty venture]

Hi @all Does anyone else have the same FSEP-505 system? This is what happened after the last update. It's only happening here, I haven't noticed it anywhere else.

[pastel path]

@hearty venture known issue there working on it.

[spark acorn]

All bugs/fixes will be repaired by the end of the current arc. Until then enjoy, psychedelic screens, freezing crashing,presets not working,and as a gift please enjoy our newest $99 pack that also will not work till end of arc.
Thanks,
Team Scopley

[tropic crown]

The grouping need work all over.

[cloud kiln]

any chance events might have feesha parts for warp in store again? lot of players keep asking how to get parts thst are Not in said refinery as stated.

[subtle lichen]

Anyone else annoyed by the faction symbols standing out from the system map? Blocks my view, have to move around to see

[analog tartan]

fix the bugs and i’ll reconsider my limited spending.

[edgy harness]

People spent on multiple packs while the game was a non working mess for most. They won’t miss you.

[spark acorn]

Exactly, its almost as if the whales help drive the sales! Kickbacks maybe? Vip helps fuel the issues as there is no accountability. Loss of $$ can fix this issue overnight, not 4 days into a failed launch.

[crimson stream]

This completely cements the prevailing theories that Rev, DJ, Nowanshall and other content creators are given messaging that they have to put out to the public, in order to maintain their access to the game devs.

[austere quartz]

I would like to propose a new avatar, it’s a necessary addition to the game. The assimilated, angry turtle:

[proper tide]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpsterfire-flooding-fail-gif-13031064

[neat pier]

Borg cube feedback

• hitting up reduction is terrible please remove
• beam charge takes too many hostiles making daily grind even more of a chore
• 30 second cool down until a target can be hit a second time by a beam could do with a reduction (5-10 seconds maybe more appropriate) as this detracts from team play.
• beam is too weak in both PvE and PvP. It does not really align with the hostile level and ops level. I do not mean hitting up I mean a 49 hitting a 48-50 hostile. In PvP it is just disappointing. If you do manage to charge up when PvPing it should at least have a visible impact.
• I like the galaxy map and in system symbol change. The cut scenes are great.
  Summary. It looks great, feels meh. Please don’t sell the fix to these issues.

[flint elm]

As an ops52 I am having a sense of humour failure about having my SLB brackets go from 51-60 to 51-70. Come on even if I started spending I can’t compete.

[onyx canyon]

New LSD system?

[severe wren]

@vale wasp any chance we get a comman officer event? pretty please 🥹 could you pass than on? 💜

[subtle sinew]

Scopely, please make the ship menu that appears in the lower left corner of the screen floating on desktop and appear with right-click! Especially for large monitors - this would be a huge time saver.

[potent shard]

So you want them to write more code? They can't even get the code correct that they've already done.

[subtle sinew]

Yes, but after they take 3-6 months to completely fix all the issues of the game. No new arcs. Give us good daily events. I am sure, given the number of bugs, most of us would be willing to forego any new arcs while the game is fixed. Then start working on new features, this being one of them.

[potent shard]

Yes I agree we would like that but they won't do it, why? $$$ that's the only thing in their minds. So sorry to tell ya this game would be due down way before they fix all the bugs.

[worn knoll]

I bought Battlepass points pack 5 days ago but I did not receive the points. So far I have contacted a Dev on here and 2 tickets with screen shots of Xsolla purchase ID and still nothing. Do I put in a 3rd ticket or just let Scopely rip me off? Disgusting customer service.

[nova sierra]

@tacit obsidian What about G5->G6 scrapping, will this be implemented or not? That's a very important strategic information.

[gray hawk]

$copely have a proven track record on this. All they want is £££££ there have been bugs for years

[kind star]

Does anyone know where I can complain about the ingame service? The following situation: My trivia event was faulty. The last milestone was not counted. I wrote a ticket in German. After the event was over, I finally received a message in Kazakh (that alone is a cheek) in which it was claimed that the milestone had been set to completed and I had received the rewards - that's a lie! Who can help me now? I have all screens!

[vale wasp]

I'd create another ticket.

[kind star]

Hoping for someone at the other end who has expertise - I will try - thanks!

[sleek carbon]

Multiphasic and ship packs in store give way less unc parts then they use to

[kind minnow]

get rid of the special ships from the heavy hitter slb except for the FKR hostiles. ppl that are too strong for the voyager hostiles cannot compete because they kill the npcs too fast ;p

[tropic crown]

Any chance the pve chests ships drop could be made not to be 99% of the time completely useless?

[gray hawk]

They're about as much use as a chocolate teapot

[tropic crown]

I couldn’t believe when Rev claimed they had better communication because they put out a dumb history video. Thats not communication, the game could be on fire and all they will do if anything is say how great the new update is please spend money!

[crimson stream]

what the actual @#@!#@ - was scopely getting mad when lower level players were acquiring the officers by spending their 3* currency????

[gray hawk]

He's sold out big time

[crimson stream]

In response to this, I'm sure @tacit obsidian will gaslight us with another spending event

[ebon dew]

5th Anniversary is when most people find out their spouses were cheating........so at least this anniversary is pretty accurate 😂

[mighty imp]

Is there no Cosmic clean up today?

[rich pendant]

Ok, I for once will say that the changes to the mat spend event are... good? At least from the perspective of a G4 player.

It was nonsense that so much of the scoring in G4 came from G3 and Uncommon G4 when Rare G4 is so much harder to get.

There may be issues with the actual milestones set, but for the SLB it's actually a positive change.

[lunar ocean]

If you were going to cut the G3 payouts, then the milestones should have been cut too. FYI, I was gonna spend some money for this event, possibly $100, but now? Nothing. But all you care about are people spending millions I guess

[lilac radish]

My theory is they are trying to get rid of the ftp/cheap2play players - less players would mean less server traffic=faster play for the whales - my guess anyone lower than 55 is hosed

[rich pendant]

the milestones have been cut down at my bracket at least. 🤔

Recruit Shaxs was 14.4M for a half unlock.
Recruit Picard is 7.33M for a half unlock + Data.

[woven jay]

the spend values were cut more (2.5x more)

[civic jay]

What are the new Faction Reputation level points and "locks"?

[rich pendant]

Not really. G4 rares are still exactly the same points. G3 rares were cut by half as well.
Uncommons suffered the biggest hit.

If you are in G4 relying on using G3 uncommons to finish heroic SMSs, that seems like the issue.

Nonetheless I think we can talk about the milestones being adjusted, but the weight distribution between G3/G4/G5 and Uncommon/Rare/Epic seems a lot more fair now.

[woven jay]

I'm in g3. I was replying to a g4 player whose spend is 10x what a 39 has to do. In g3 large rare spends are limited maybe that isn't true for g4. I won't be scoring with 4* and 5* at my ops so relative values between them don't matter. why are they not devaluing materials below your ops and leaving ops appropriate spending alone.

[rich pendant]

Yeah I don't have the data for G3 events because stfc.space is taking a while to show it. Which is why I said "at my bracket at least" (ops 46). The cut in the G4 values are roughly in line with the cut in scoring. Could have been reduced a little bit further, but it's not crazy unfair.

I assume G3 was also reduced, but might have been not enough.

[cloud peak]

I recently went from Ops 50 to 51. I'm going to say that the 4* research changing from using 4* materials to using 5* materials is ridiculous, regardless of how much research was done on a node. Prior to the change it was never indicated that 5* material was needed to continue the research it just changed. I don't know if this caught anyone else off-guard but it did for me.

[hoary lynx]

No, the amount of materials required to complete the SMS is signficantly increased compared to last month

[last nest]

yeah no thats all wrong they lowered points per, AND increased the requirement numbers

[frozen frigate]

Borg is working well. 1 hostile, 100% cutting beam. Very fun, and i'm thinking the hull dmg fits well when balanced with PvP mechanics.

This is a super good way to hit a player for 1/4th hull health from across the system. Done it 10 times now and it's awesome

[lime socket]

The same thing happens going from 30s to 40s, higher levels of researches you started with g3 start taking g4.

[full badge]

Congrats Scopely for 5 years 🥳
5 years of bugs and game crashes!
Wasted 25 Tetryon for nothing today because of game crash
Cosmic Cleanup event was too late
Overpowered officers (Freeman) who destroy pvp crews.
Good job 👍

And that are just 3 of many points... the list couod be much longer but if I would type all of it I would sit here until next year.

[fallen phoenix]

Think about that even epic G4 is nerved from 600 to 400 points. And also 5* materials are nerved. So what is fair in that lowered points?

[still mirage]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar @digital bridge please work the overlords into creating brackets for players ops 51-70. The difference between a 52 and a 56, let alone 60+ makes any SLB for lower to mid 50s players not worth paying attention to. Thx

[atomic falcon]

The new business model. Intended to garner as close to 0% engagement as possible. Not saying I get it. But must be it. They just can't want people to play the event.

[floral mountain]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar @digital bridge please look into players not receiving out of game notifications, or advise if a work around has been found.

[crimson stream]

No no no! You guys, don't you know?!?! EVERYONE has been asking @tacit obsidian for more money spending events so they can use their multiphasics! That's the most important thing for them to address right now

[supple bane]

The scoring meterics need to be returned to what they were in October with this months 15m milestones.. You try and lower the points needed for the milestone to make everyone think it is cheaper and you actually increased the materials needed by 1/3. Stop trying to treat us like were stupid.. There is enough paywalls in the game already...

[errant saddle]

Given it is becoming clearer that non whales can't play anymore, should I even spend the 20 bucks on the elite pass to get the borg cube as I soon won't even be able to participate in anything?

[tribal bane]

@errant saddle asking myself the same question for the first time after the most recent 2 paywall arcs

[crimson stream]

it's a completely mid ship that Rev and DJ gaslit us to believe would be game changing

[gray hawk]

Funny how they are so silent over all of this.

[last nest]

its the weekend plus they dont care lmao

[gray hawk]

$copely have fluffed up beyond all recognition. They deserve an award for how well they've done it!

[tribal bane]

Oh rev still says everyone is loving this arc

[alpine elk]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar @digital bridge why are we not being compensated voyager rare anonymouly, uncommon and hostile loot since scopley broke the systems??

[past venture]

Material spend SMS is beyond messed up at this point. Ops 42 and I would need to spend 241,667 UC G4 to complete it. I'm about done with this game. It's just pointless even bothering with it at this point.

[hidden night]

There is absolutely no reason to change the scoring metrics for these events, adjust the milestones to the appropriate grade. Something that was worth 100 points last week should still be worth 100 points this week, no reason to change it. All it does is punish g3 and g4 players because they haven't progrssed to g5. This arc was so hyped up now I feel doubly screwed by believing the hype.

[past venture]

All they want at this point is for the f2p players to quit so they can combine servers and have more whale on whale action to encourage more spending. I've spent more in the last month than I've ever spent but this was enough to discourage me from spending any more.

[nova drum]

💰💶🤑💸💵💲 The only thing you care about is the money flowing. The change in the material event is a total failure and a slap in the face for any honest player. Change it to the old system or quit your game

[crimson stream]

This is how they destroyed the credibility of all the content creators they used to gaslight us into believing in this arc and battlepass. Revdeuce and UltimateDJz have become nothing more than scopely mouthpieces at this point. They'll release a small video in which they criticizes a little bit, and fail to apologize for being complicit in the fraud

[hidden night]

Yes and no. They're only as good as they info they've been given, not their fault if they only got half truths or partial details.

[rich pendant]

The point requirements are also decreased. Points required decreased by 50%, so if the material was nerfed by less than 50%, it's actually buffed.

Also, G4 epic is an anomaly. You only use it to tier up ships after T9. No building or research takes it. So most people don't even consider it when planning for mat spend.

G5 was generally buffed. It was lowered but by less than the point requirement decrease. So you need less materials now in G5.

Basically people that got really rekt are the 44- lol

[fallen phoenix]

Are you on scopelys payroll?
Yes, the requirements where lowered by 50%.
But the materials are lowered by up to 80%. So the effects are even higher than 50%. Its the same when you double the prices but only raise the peoples income only by 20%.

[severe wren]

So, my ops is 55...my most matts spend are G4 UC and G5 UC 😄 sure, rare is involved as well not on this large scale tho...So, my usual math to reach the milestone is now meh...and cant even use spocks.club well...(wondering what you thought about your supporting partners here...🙈 )
In addition ops 61 and 62 are still my braket...which have G5 rare and epic stuff to spend I guess + G6 😄
If you wanted to do the late 50s and new 60s a fav...this goes bad down the road...because 51-56?ish...will be screwed.
Its time to split the brakets 51-55 and 56-60 and 60-till what ever you think is good...and bring back the old scoring.
Was excited first to see the 18M some..and thought, its really nice fun game...now, I am not gonna spend...
Rethink and we shall see next week 😄

[rich pendant]

I'm not, but I did the math on it and turns out it's actually a good change for the buildings, researches and ships I'm upgrading now.

The points you get from spending rare and epic mats were buffed. The points you get from spending uncommon mats were nerfed.

Almost everything I need to build now requires rare mats heavily, in a ratio to uncommons that means I now need to spend less materials than before. 🤷‍♂️

[west yarrow]

From what I can read online this appears to be a problem of not having enough damaged datapads to finish the invaluable assets mission in order to get into Deep Space. I have three damaged datapads but need four. I have done every mission I can find but cannot find the fourth damaged datapad. Any suggestions or work arounds?

[vale wasp]

Contact CS. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[fallen phoenix]

Where you see, that the points go up for players that can't refine g5 rare or epic?
Mat Old - new
G3 uc 100 - 20 = less
G3 r 150 - 100 = less
G4 uc 100 - 30 = less
G4 r 150 - 150 = same
G4 e 600 - 400 = less
G5 uc 150 - 100 = less
G5 r 300 - 400 = more
G5 e 1000 - 1500 = more
Everything below G5 rare was lowered, only g4 rare ist the same as before. So nothing is buffed for most of the players.
So think about your math skills and don't say it's better than before.

[rich pendant]

The requirements were cut by half.
So
G3 Rare 150 - 75 = SAME. Because the requirement was halved.
G4 Rare 150 - 150 = MORE, because the requirement was halved.
G4 Epic 600 - 400 = MORE. Because the requirement was halved.
G5 Unc 150 - 100 = MORE. Because the requirement was halved.

Do I need to keep going?

Before it would take 100k G4 rare materials to finish the SMS. Now it takes 50k. Because. The. Requirements. Were. Halved.

[errant brook]

Distribution of G4 uncommon vs rare is like 1000 vs 1. for 49ers who just switched to 51 or 52. So there is a huge loss in value - unannounced and without a chance to spend with the value it had before.

[rich pendant]

What do you mean by "distribution"?

Income is ~3.5 uncommon for 1 rare in packs for 45-50, which I'd guess is exactly how scopely re-evaluated the milestones, because that's exactly the ratio you need for the events to be identical in how many materials you spend.

[fallen phoenix]

If you are in the position to invest 50k g4 rare then congratulation. For you maybe it's a good change.
Most players don't have ships and buildings to invest that much of rare G4.
For example, i moved shortly to lvl 50. No building needs rare G4. My ships are on T7 or T8, so also not possible to invest that masses of rare G4.
And also like Grinskeks said, the distribution of rare ist 1% and below of the uncommon.
If you buy packs, the value of rare is 30% of the uncommon. But this is only the way of thinking players have, who like to invest masses of money for only one event

[errant brook]

My inventory: 300k G4 unc, 15k rares

[rich pendant]

If your G4 ships are T7 or T8, the ratio on Uncommon : Rare to tier them up is low enough that you are better with the new events. Ratio is 2:1.
As for the packs, that's the way scopely will use to value their heroic events. And I used it because it's the only data that is 100% accurate right now. I don't know the precise income from refinery and bajoran pulls.

Due to slowdown will just edit this to respond to @muted zinc : yeah, that's because you spent way more rares than uncommons. If you have 300k unc, you should have more than 100k rares. But you spent these 85k rares. For the people that are still spending these 85k rares, the event is now better, because the rares have double value.

[last nest]

this is i spend money math lol

[kindred flower]

I'm lvl 35, The value of materials is down 80%, in October the first Recruit Event was 784k, now it's 646k... so 18% drop in cost, 80% drop in materials value

[severe wren]

my math is easy, i need to look how to get the points together, not only for the sms...also, to score a bit better in the auction....
here an example
Academy lvl 55 24,62k uc g5 , 3,12k rare g5
old 3,693M 936k = 4,63M
new 2,462M 1,248M = 3,71M
So, my goal is 18.96M, I need to build more buildings, do more research etc....so, for next auction, i have less to spend on...sure, they could have done 22M goal...but even 2x 18,96M is a lot 😄 as well as, i do build G3 ships for scrapping and 3 Intrepits did gave me over 1M points.
I think this scoring depends heavily on where you are account wise and ops wise...however, I personally dont like it...because I also look to the auctions and still have those ops in, which can score high on rare, epic and g6 stuff, which i cant 😄
If Scopely wanted to give those high ops, which also need to find a way to spend on, or have less struggle to score while already in G6, it screws my math becasuse my braket is 51-62 😄

[errant brook]

Sorry that' s nonsense.

My pilum is t8, korinar T6, Talios T9. Just upgraded to ops52 and now 300k G4 is only 30% worth. Got 3 maxed Augurs and Ents each which became worthless aswell.

Feels like beeing betrayed: In my SLB are OPS 61+

And your math ist wrong: Even if 85k rare doubles in value value and 300k unc Go down to 30% then I win 85k worth rares while losing 210k unc...why do you defend this obvious mess?

[kindred flower]

This little 'Rare vs Uncommon' justification some Simps are using also ignores the fact people get a huge amount of points from spending the lower materials, 40+ and 50+ people build and scrap 4-Star ships and 3-Star ships and that used to be a big part of their total too and now that's cut 70-80%
And for us in our 30s it's just directly cut 80%, everyone just got brutally screwed.

[rich pendant]

Yeah so, Pilum T8 for example.
The Uncommon:Rare ratio is 3.1:1 for that. So you spent more rares, comparatively to uncommons, than you were getting.
Getting from ops 46 to ops 50 is a ratio 3.4:1. Again, you spent more rares than uncommons.

See what I'm saying? You already did everything that would cost you rares and that would be better in the current event form.

If you were getting your Pilum to T8 or getting your ops to 50 in the current event, it would be better for you.

[severe wren]

how many times your tier a Pilum to T8 vs. tiering G3 ships? 😄
How many times you build a ktinga and tier it 😄
You need to look on, how you scored by repiting things like tiereing ships for scrapping and building stuff 1 time...and even need lots of time to get those matts together again...they dont fall from the Sky 😄

[kindred flower]

But in other things it's the extreme opposite. Take a Drydock from lvl 45 to 49, it's 37,500 Uncommon, 4500 Rare and you've got like 6-8 of those docks.

[rich pendant]

It doesn't go down to 30%, it goes down to 60%, because the milestones were halved. Geez you guys really suck at math.
Then considering rares are 1.5x uncommons (since you're using previous score as baseline), 85k rares > 120k uncommons.

@severe wren 46.

[severe wren]

what ops are you? just to understand from what point of view you looking?

@rich pendant that explains some...my braket is way a different story 😄
In my braket 51-62 rare g5 does not fall from the sky like candy 😄 but g4 uc , g5 uc does 😄 and that, got lowered...till we get rare stuff together...the earth spind 100 times around the sun 😄
We tried to keep up in auctions by uc stuff and spend wisely on our buildings and research...to have some left for the next time.
As said, this scoring depends highly on where you are ops wise...

[rich pendant]

You tier a Pilum to T8 once and that's equivalent to maxing 90 lvl 26 ships.
Unless you're maxing a bunch of G3 epics solely for the score (or you are ops 50+ and can actually scrap them, inefficient as hell but ok)

If you want to spend the materials efficiently, you would be building 26s to scrap. You would need to max 30 legionaries to finish the milestone at my ops. It was already not a viable strategy. And that's if you don't have the prime efficiencies. If you do, forget it, building G3 doesn't even scratch the milestones.

And apparently, G5 is seeing the highest milestone completion for this milestone ever, so that should be the bracket that got the most benefits from the change?

And to be clear, people ops 44- are completely screwed, I said as much in the first message and been repeating every now and then.

[errant brook]

Learn basics first please.

1.SLB is open end - No milestones.
So its 30% for the unc -70% value loss!
2. When rares are 1.5 commons in your Scenario then its still a big loss: losing 210k from G4 unc (70% of 300k) while winning 120k from G4 rare (85k more worth *1.5 = 120k value) makes still a loss of 90k!
Your words your math - please stop to spread wrong examples.

And btw. Statistics only cannot apply - its far more complex and I bet distribution of other sources Like bajoran monaveen Armada chests and so on are different

Efficiently scrapoing ist No Argument and hast nothing to do with this example as it was about G3 Res -you missed that as it fits your poor examples.

Do you work for Scopely?

[kindred flower]

I think you're kind of looking at one tiny spot where Uncommon and Rare are balanced a little bit, but it's only like the for like 1 level... Ops 46 to Ops 47 costs 185k UC and 53k Rare like the 3.5:1 ratio

But 42 to 43 is 68k UC and 6k Rare a 11:1 ratio.

Very few people are going to be in the precise niche where there's a lot of rare materials they can spend

[rich pendant]

Dude, I am obviously talking about the SMS. For which the milestones were halved.
You are not losing 210k from G4 uncommon, for god sake. You are losing 120k. Because the milestones. Were. Halved. Then you are gaining 85k from the rares. Because the milestones were halved. So in uncommon baseline, you gained 85 * 1.5 = 127.5k, which is greater than the 120k you lost.

For the SLB it doesn't matter because the changes applied to everyone. As long as it's the same scoring for everyone, you're in the same boat.

Let me try this way:
Let's say you're bringing your Pilum to T8. I will use base cost as reference, because otherwise it depends on what researches you have.

That costs ~520k uncommons and ~165k rares.

Old scoring: 76M points
New scoring: 40M points.

"Oh my god I lost so many points"

Old Milestone: 14.4M points. (Ops 46)
New Milestone: 7.33M points.

So you could complete the old milestone 5.3 times. You can now complete the milestone 5.45 times.

Any efficiency research you have will scale both numbers down equally. You can complete more than you could before with that. That's the point.

[west yarrow]

yep sent them an email see what they say.

[sage shale]

I'm sick of hearing these things were 'Halved' too, they're basically just back to where the historically were before the ridiculous PvP officer SMSes.

Also part of the whole point is the scoring is in fact not the same for everyone because 60+ players are in the 50s bracket.

[rich pendant]

I don't remember any voyager milestone being lower than 12M for half unlock and I was 5+ Ops levels lower than now. stfc.space doesn't have any event before September, thanks scopely, so I can't double check that info. And ripper took his website down

[severe wren]

Unfortunately, not by my math...we tier Enties, D4, Augurs...Hydras....and stuff....a May maybe when look also on credits. Those gave good points along which some main stuff to do 🙂 Even an Int gives me 1M.
It helps because you look on what you can build 1 time and what you can build many times. Many times is the G3 ships and a one of ish G4 uc. My Pilum is at T9 and by god...getinng the stuff together for T10 is pain 😄 Its like saying..."just build another G53 ship"...its not 😄
And I dont only look on the sms...because you look parallel what you can get alongside the auction...and the ops 50s auctions are crazy. In my 40s...that was easy peasy, would not bother....50s...another story. to get rare stuff together, if things stay like this...is pain...or heavy paid 😄
Now, thats actually the story of the upper 50s and 60s. they have nothing left to spend on G4 UC stuff....which....we in 51-55 have 👀 think about that 😄
Oh, and btw...you dont get rare G5 by the refinery, till you reach ops 55 😄 before that, its something lucky inn bajo refine

[errant brook]

Look at my initial post again.

You hijacked it, changed the facts to "only talking bout SMS".

You argued I would scrap inefficiently because I built epic G3 ships to get G4 material which has nothing to do with my initial post aswell.

Then you are telling me my math was wrong.

Sorry your are just wrong and should stop defending this mess.

[sage shale]

I know I ended that Voyager arc with no extrordinary effect having Chakotay at Tier 3 and Janeway at Tier 2. I don't remember specific numbers either, but I do remember people being absolutely stunned in the Last month of Voyager at how how High the 7 of 9 SMS milestones were, only to then see them even Higher for Ransom the next month.

We've just had officers become worse and worse and worse on cost and sourcing.

Does anyone remember the concept of Uncommon officers? The last Uncommon officer was released 50 Officers ago.

[rich pendant]

You were replying to a thread that started here. #💬-general-feedback message

If you got in the middle of the conversation and wanted to talk about the SLB when everyone was talking about the SMS it seems a you problem.

And about scrapping 26 ships it wasn't even responding to you. I was responding to @severe wren

Looks like you need to learn how discord works.

[errant brook]

I didnt answer to your post with mine so - yeah I dont understand how DC works....

Its just you talking bout the SMS as your arguments only fit in a tiny environment. If you might have a look at the reality then you will see the disadvantage for many Players. You can still claim only to look at your small SMS world but its still wrong what you say.
And even there is a huge disadvantage with the new metrics.

I will leave it here as it makes no sense talking to you.

[kindred flower]

There's always someone who wants to simply defend the company or status quo literally no matter what it is, and its just baffling.

[rich pendant]

You didn't, but everyone else in the conversation was talking about the milestones. I guess I just wrongly assumed you also were talking about it.

Since for the SLB it doesn't matter as it's the same scoring for everyone. Everyone's uncommons are now worth less than before.

Only difference is as Ender mentioned you're now competing with G6 people, but G5 bracket was a major complaint since it launched, idk what is new here.
@severe wren Yeah bracketing is broken in G5 and always was. Btw it seems your bracket is 51-70, you just don't have people above 62 yet in your server kekw
G4 is 40-42, 43-45, 46-50, btw.

[severe wren]

I said g3 ships, not 26 👀 we Tier and scrap g3 epics and g3 rare when we are poor on credits…or like me….saying 1,05M credits for a g5 56 ship 😄 we look what’ve can do with our G4 miners….I currently look if tiering s Kelvin, a Ktinga is good…which relies heavy on G4 uc Matts…
Again, I think…Scopley should finally start to split the ops ranges in the 50s and take the 60s out.
The 40s have 41-42, 43-44, 45-46….when I remember right.
We have 51-62 😂 and again, rare g5 comes with ops 55…and till you reach ops 55 it takes time…tho, the economy changes now…just right now…but nerving the uc g4 stuff….is bad for ops 51-55. we mostly and always look if we can get a bit out from that, we have still research left with g4 stuff 😄
As said, ops 40s…my life was sugar 😄

[errant brook]

2 Differences:

As fresh Ops 51- 52 you might have lots of G4 and almost no G5.

And these players were hit hardest by the unannounced scoring changes because OPS 61+ can Score massive with G6 aswell.

[acoustic cloud]

every single day this arc, they make it easier and easier to walk away and never look back

[rich pendant]

ops 61+ are scoring massively anyway because they are spending $3000 per day in this game let's be real here lol I can't see the issue not being the bracketing instead of the scoring changes.

And for sure the bracketing needs to be better for G5. It's a major reason people prefer to camp in G4.

[drifting crow]

Scopley needs to rethink this pay scale for rss SLB events. Yes, give love to G5 and G6 players while poop 💩 on G3 and G4 players. This scales is stupid.

[severe wren]

as said, if we split the ranges...as my first post was talking about waaaaay above....something like 51-55, 56-60 and upper 60s have they own range again, it would go alongside with the matts scoring.
currently, this is got more pain for those relying on G4 UC and G5 UC stuff....thats actually my point.
And we still have stuff left to do on G4 buildings maybe, research...which upper 50s dont...so, they had to look on how to score...with G5 rare and epic stuff.
Now, look at the scoring again.
My take, it strongly depends where you stand with your account and view point. Thats my main message to Scopely 😄 not to any player here...since we never know what we get next time 😂

[sage shale]

For me the overarching issue is they're starting to destroy the most fundamental Loop in the game... we Earn resources and materials of various types which we then save and horde until a corresponding event arises in which you spend that various resources and advance in the game while earning more rewards.

The big issue is they are increasingly breaking the expected return and the predictability of those events and rewards.

We've hit a point where we have no idea what we're saving for, what the values of those things will be, we have no idea where events will repeat themselves consistently or show up once and disappear forever.

People are now just hording Armada starts in case a Hugh event happens again, hording Formation stuff unless there's a random event, hording Fleet Commander stuff waiting for Events, No redeeming or leveling Artifacts in case there's a random event, not upgrading their Q building, not Spending their Ultras, not Upgrading their officers...
And now we're having the fundamental event under attack, people save their stuff knowing there's an SMS for officers every weekend, and now we're recklessly adjusting the values and returns of those events too.

I know that Week 1 event is so stupid they'll fix it next week, so I won't spend this week.
Why do I know that? Because for the last 3 months the first SMS had outrageous Milestones, and they lowered them in the 2nd and 3rd week all 3 times, so if you used your resources in Week 1, you were a sucker.
Scopely has trained us to horde everything forever and never trust their first offer.

[slow needle]

yes, just stop play maybe they will catch on, bit they prbly won't care as the whales are carrying them

[sage shale]

I'm not sure how widespread it is, but I can say 4 level 60s on my server have quit since September

It didn't really impact most people as much, but I know a lot of whales felt extremely burned by the Forbidden Tech

[lime socket]

I don’t remember the 7of9 milestones being particularly higher than janeway or chakotay, but janeway iirc was that weird format where you finished one sms and then another one showed up. Lots of people got them all unlocked or to tier 2 exactly because of the new format SMS’s. In the old world, the recruit sms had lower milestones, but it also gave you at most 20 shards for finishing. Further spend only resulted in rewards from slb placement. Having the recruit sms continue to higher milestones was the reason why people ended up with a lot more shards than they usually do.

[rich pendant]

7/9 was significantly higher at lower G4 levels than the previous ones, but it was mostly the same at higher G4.

[sage shale]

I wish I could verify, but i'm pretty sure the Seven of Nine SMS was 39 million for the first one, then they slightly lowered the 2nd one and added a 3rd unscheduled one after.
Then the following Month Ransom was 46 Million

Then they did what I was talking about where the course corrected and made Billups 28 million, but gave 50 Ransom shards if you got to 40 million.

There does really seem to be a trend where if you compete in the 1st one, you just get scammed because they fix the 2nd one

[kindred flower]

in my 30s I know I'd not even hit the 1st milestone, so I'm going to spend absolutely nothing and bank on that being true.

[lime socket]

Huh yeah I can see that in the ransom sms which is the earliest that seems to be accessible. Ops 42-50 all had practically the same milestones, and realistically they should have been significantly lower for 45-

[rich pendant]

Yeah exactly. Basically in the 7/9 SMS they made the 44- milestones way higher matching the 45+. Which was crazy kek

[elder hornet]

So when will system FSEP-505(36) be getting fixed? thats a huge waste of time for a player to get there and get nothing

[daring aspen]

Changing the material points awarded is absolute 💩. Just an effort to force folks, some of which do p2p out of rewards. Forcing them to raise their ops level. Just another way for you to lose money and players.

[torpid marten]

wait till you find out you have to have the epics to tier up your cube

[sage shale]

You can skip it though, if you have a 53 thats fine

[sleek ibex]

Oh my god. I saw comments about the voyager mining systems but had avoided them until absolutely necessary. Well now I can say for myself that this is absolutely ridiculous. It’s impossible to see where the mines are, this token is a complete loss. When can we expect a comp for the token loss? And better yet, when can we expect a fix?? What a hot mess.

[karmic bough]

Nahhh not a loss just squint real hard… I mined two full loads lol

[sleek ibex]

Every time I try to scroll the screen to find a spot it glitches really badly. It should not be like this, this is not cool.

[karmic bough]

At least it’s doable tho

[pastel path]

I been hunting the flyers in there they give you that stuff. On my screen there red lines moving thru the whiteness and can be targeted.

[torpid marten]

@@sage shale I have a tier 4 Corvus but nothing else is showing yet.

[sleek ibex]

If y’all can tell me where the mines are please do, I’ve been up here for some time and have not managed to find more than two.

[kindred flower]

Apparently needs a Tier 6

[karmic bough]

The solid ones are nodes

[torpid marten]

@kindred flowerThank you

[cursive snow]

Trick is to be at max zoom out and don't move the camera. You can barely make out the nodes and you gotta just click around until you find the one you need, which hopefully isn't a rare

[scenic pivot]

So, there's been tons of feedback about the Material Spend SLB scoring changes, but I can't resist the urge to add my perspective. I am a G5 player, but that doesn't mean I'm totally done with G4 research. I still have bits left, and it's one of the things I commonly used the Mat Spend SLBs to catch up on and get simultaneously rewarded in other ways. No more, I suppose

More than that, I must confess, I bought the new research efficiency prime. Even though the list of issues with this launch is about as long if not longer than my forearm, I decided to go for it. The lowered costs looked great, especially in terms of the dilithium, because as a G5 player, I always need dilithium. But it also lowered my mats costs, and now those mats also score many less points. It's a double-whammy
Yes, thats right, I am, in part, complaining about my researches costing less materials. I know, it's silly right? My point is, I'm left feeling like, on top of being owned by the scoring change, I also doubly owned myself by engaging with some of the new premium content. Now I'm barely able to earn points relative to my milestones without dumping G5 mats, which requires resources, which are just as scarce as ever in G5. Perhaps that's the objective, but it feels bad and discourages me from engaging further.
Some will call this karma, and, you know what, I can't dispute that. I should know better.... Shame on me, I guess.

[limber mesa]

and open chat when it gets too messed up, opening and closing full screen chat resets the glitching.

[brazen prism]

when will voyager systems be fixed?: the bugs are still there. This is really irritating, you can't complete your daily and weekly run now

[tulip fossil]

Really Scopely, i'm about done with this game...it gets worse with every arc and ship, still awaiting rewards from my completed trivia event, can't mine with Voyager and everything is ops or ship locked...why?

[main river]

People like me who suffer migraines cant even look at the screenshots much less actually go into the voyager mining systems. So now there is a part of the game i am excluded from which is a necessity for the refinery pulls. Fixing this needs to be a priority.

[compact mirage]

My game has been unplayable since arc launch no matter the device or service connection speed it just crashes within a few min of loggin in to play. I paid for the BP and haven't been able to score let alone complete an event all week.. After 6 days Socpley tribble ticket response was literally the equivilant of asking me if I turned it off and back on again🤬 Scopley support has been the worst. Can a Person check on my issue and not a BOT that be great

[bright cedar]

Why is scooply refusing to repair this issue people spent boundless of dollars to play game and your team is refusing to fix issues

[gray hawk]

And there we go! It won't be long before this multi-billion dollar earning game disappears. Multi-billion dollar and not available 24/7 tells you everything! They don't care about the player base f2p or p2w. Just keep rolling around in your cash! All these "it's the weekend" comments simply do not wash!

[lilac radish]

I see the games still not working - maybe tomorrow

[crimson stream]

This actually makes me happy. The longer the game doesn't work, the more time people have to realize how much of their life is sunk into this thing.

[spark acorn]

So STFC is force closing other apps, namely discord while playing. This wouldbt be a big issue, except for the fact that the "chat" feature in game is also broke af. How you supposed to communitcate when your game broke all forms of it?

[kind minnow]

doubt stfc closes other apps .. only the operating system can do that..

[spark acorn]

Definately does, i play other games no issues. Stfc force closes my discord. Appreciate your opinion

[vale wasp]

If you need to reach a person, I'd try the email option in #👽-how-to-contact-support

[gray hawk]

Yeah enjoy the standard copy/paste crap from them

[kind minnow]

stfc doesnt or shouldnt have permissions to do that .. sounds more like an virus ;p

[outer jolt]

this i think is messed up.

[spark acorn]

Are you a programmer? Do you work for scopely? If no, then i dont understand your position as its neither helpful or valid if not coming from one of those job descriptions. No viruses on my Pc or phone. Again thanks for your opinion

[kind minnow]

maybe u have a virus.. i mean if a game can force close apps on your system maybe a virus can destroy ur anti virus scanner as well ;p

[spark acorn]

Highly unlikely that a virus is on both devices and doing same thing,or that it got past my security, my internets security, and Samsungs, unless of course scopely gave it to me!

[errant brook]

Scopely ist further away from the community than ever before.

Several content creators pushed this month and all are happy because Scopely sold a lot of borg cube packs and stuff for the whales on their 60+ run.

Ops 51 to 55 are victims in events as they get nerfed only (massive G4 and below scoring decrease) and have to challenge 61+ aswell who get buffed (massive G6 Scoring).

Rev called people who complained about scoring cuts in material spending events "the minority of the minority" and thinks that "...november is the best month by (Sales ?) metrics" -

There is so much messed up these days.
Hard balance changes come in unannounced and upset a lot of people. Community managers ain't talking to the community anymore.

Maybe they focus on VIP and VIP Discord.

[gray hawk]

Rev plus many of the others sold out big time to Scopely, who love their VIP's and just ride on the waves of the fools that keep on using their credit cards.

The game is well known for being a massive memory leaker causing multiple issues on many devices. Been that way for years, ever since roll out

[kindred flower]

Rev in particular tends to always say this "most people are happy with this month" type of stuff, and keep referring to all these secret stats where everyone feels great to try and make it seem like people complaining are outliers and very rare

[rich cypress]

I cannot see why anyone would be happy with this arc. The cube is another grind.. that cannot punch up due to Scopely restrictions. The launch was a complete failure. The SLB /SMS devalue of materials alienated many G5,G4, G3 players. The only question left is “Why are we still playing this game?”

[marble tangle]

When do you plan to fix that?

[silver bramble]

Never!
I seems the next plan from Scopely is selling art work. Now they started to investigate and improve it. They save every glitch to an image file and sell that as KI-art. They will earn billions of dollars with it, so the plan.
But be careful. Don't say anything to other people. 🙊🙈🥳

[lilac radish]

It also lets you hoard tickets and uncommon/rare mats - in six months I may be able to compete a SMS

[tropic crown]

Rev is delusional or getting paid by Scopley. Not one peep about yet another disastrous arc launch, yet another grind, more and more currency’s.

[river notch]

Vault of latnium is very insulting at that price realy sticking the middle finger to the players this one

[bitter flicker]

Game crashes constantly no error no reason just utterly crashes about 20 times an hour

I use a 700$ top of the line device, this is bs

[marble tangle]

New bug, since today. Monaveen can‘t enter systems with texas class ships. Trip starts and ends somwhere nowhere. Monaveen is tlost in space not in the target system not in homebase. Well done again, it gets harder and harder to have fun in this game.

[river notch]

wish i could exchange 2k latnium for 99.99 if scopley can do a converstion i would be happy to exchange my latnium hahaha

[sullen crest]

threat from beyond not scoring (server 89)

[vocal widget]

This is the best deal ever offered by Scopely. Best deal for them. And in the end, it's all about what's best for Scopely.

[nimble rover]

Same on 143

[terse shard]

So we may be looking at this all wrong. We give Scopely money, we get MORE bugs. To fix the situation, we give them less money and they fire the lousy programmers - hopefully before the good programmers?

[tranquil dew]

You have to kill the exact lvl hostile in the event description

[tulip dune]

so we are back to the G4 version of the event.... how does one even DO that in the code "hey, shodul I use the Threat from beyond code form 2023 or the code from 2020?"

[umbral thistle]

Maybe that explains why all the old bugs from the last few years are reappearing too! 🤣 They've done it game wide

[craggy niche]

Neither of the swarm events are working..
But the heroic happens to be either lv32 or 35 swarms all of a sudden.. like someone said above, going back to an old code setup for the event 🙄

[spark acorn]

Never gonna happen when a whale drops $1000 on a broken launch. Its the ignoramouses with money "whales" more than scopely at this point.

[bitter flicker]

@tacit obsidian Game crashes every few minutes, over 100 times in the past 2 hours

[gray hawk]

Don't worry them about this, it's obviously your equipment! Lol

[tacit jay]

I'm starting to think Scopley has gotten some form of funding from a university somewhere to perform social experiments on us; determining how much we'll tolerate as research for future products or level of support.

[toxic hull]

@rigid vapor, how do you mess up an event that has run every week for over four years without major problems? Fix “Threat from Beyond” and give credit for the swarm hostiles already killed!

[stiff latch]

@tacit obsidian @royal solar I hope y'all got permission from Disney. 🤣

[lusty fiber]

Changing swarm event to L35 hostiles only is a bad idea. Especially when its not been advertised. I'm far from amused after spending half and hour hitting L47 and now looking at the prospect of going to a congested L35 system, making me not want to play today.

[livid bay]

So, I'm not the only one seeing death stars 😄

[signal bison]

The decision to change the scoring for Threat from Beyond is a bad one, seemingly made for no reason other than to make the game less fun to play

[stiff latch]

Can't see anything but.

[livid bay]

It conforms to the 2023 motto: less grinding is more grinding

[stiff latch]

Who I truly feel bad for are the smaller players whose normal range are 35 swarms. I used to grind peacefully in the level 50 system but now have a speed crew on, knocking smaller players aside to finish this "event".

[umbral thistle]

This one is down to poor version control rather than a conscious decision it just screams of incompetence

[toxic hull]

Is that standard Scopely incompetence or some new and improved level of incompetence?

[keen rover]

bringing back the classics

[kind minnow]

value for money right there

[gentle shale]

from a QOL perspective I wonder if the arc runners have ever thought of combining the BP event that combines hunting swarms/Borg with Swarm Sunday???

https://media.giphy.com/media/872o15eAXFBw66UfNl/giphy.gif

[novel ibex]

Has anyone had a response regarding missing rewards from the trivia event? Raised a ticket in game on day 2 of the event and heard nothing since!

[vale wasp]

You can try another ticket. CS has granted many the rewards already.

[gray hawk]

$copely Customer Support

https://tenor.com/view/taunting-taunt-tease-you-cant-catch-me-come-at-me-gif-11413356

[trail temple]

Stop selling scams ty I thought it was funny for a bit but this is just sad

[edgy harness]

They need to keep thst there so they can say the other packs are a sale or great value compared to a set base price exchange from that pack.

Without it they could face all kinds of issues in different regions and jurisdictions.

[civic haven]

Kind of confusing that they say that Martok would be onboard with their plan and then go talk to another general. I’m not sure if that is an error, but it certainly would have been more clear for Worf to say something like “Captain, I recognize that ship. It’s captain, General Kag, is a wise warrior and should be amenable to your plan.”

[fossil frigate]

The dilithium cost for the new G3-G5 Prime Research Efficiency feels really high. As an ops 30 player the pack only gave about 50M Dilithium, about 1/20 of what Is needed to start it

[last nest]

why did you buy it without looking at it..

[edgy harness]

It’s also nowhere near the 200% reduction they promise.

Maybe 10% depending on your ops and other researches,artifacts, and fc skills and such.

[last nest]

none of the numbers they use on primes are actual rates shouldnt be trusting anything over 100% reduction its mostly just false advertising since they dont include the “off base” on some of them

[edgy harness]

And they know what they are doing, it really isn’t hard to write in something that shows you the ACTUAL reductions or increases. I mean, it’s gotta be simple, WoW has done that on perks and gear for decades so you just know Scopely has to have that easily in their bailiwick.

[crimson stream]

Are you under the impression that ANY scopely employee is actually a Star Trek fan? Or has watched enough episodes to know characters? They literally made the borg queen a below deck officer with no captain ability.

[dusky wind]

Can we get a comp pack for the FSEP being unplayable

[stark lintel]

Wouldn’t count on it.

[tepid bramble]

But if they did that, folks would actually see the slap in the face that is what scopy gives you for your C Note.

[vocal widget]

I prefer spending my C Notes on hookers and blow. At least the stds they give yah isn't as painful as this latest arc.

[edgy harness]

And you’ll always have ghonnasyphilherpeldia even after the blow wears off and the entertainment leaves

[limber mesa]

by the time you start using G4 resources that's a very manageable amount of dilithium, or you can raid for it.

also, the way percentages are used is a bit deceptive.
200% efficiency is more likely to be about 20% reduction, i don't remember the exact calculation.

[dire hazel]

there won't be anyone to raid by then

[nova sierra]

Can you please work on the resolution of the iPad modus, since arc before it changed, and now it’s very uncomfortable.
Like this…..
Why you can on a phone, make 4 in row, and on iPad only 2. It was always 3 (still not 4, but was way better than you made now)

[errant saddle]

It’s same on Android

[nova sierra]

Then they have to change for tablet in general 🙂

[tranquil dew]

Been a few odd formatting changes recently. This one again is just shoddy, looks so unprofessional

[analog sparrow]

That's wrong ... I bought the pack as an OPS 39. Now I have only 40% of G3 costs then before (trit & dili around 60%). And I already maxed out effiency research with ecxeption of ex-borg. This pack is worth the price.

[mint flame]

I got 1.4B dil

[exotic cloak]

Any idea on a eta for a fix for the fsep systems <@&509691205798592532>

[dawn nexus]

No

[winter holly]

Anyone ever going to get back to me about this???

[vocal widget]

No.

[rocky raptor]

they didn't reply or give a flying f about a bunch of us complaining about seizures. i really wish i was making it up and i didn't have scarring and lesions on my brain but hey ho, who gives a f eh?

[thorny root]

Why did the new update remove the Northcutt from the FED loyalty pack? Where can we find it now?

[finite mural]

still there, you only get one

[edgy harness]

And once you hit mid 40s you have access to other researches and more levels of some that bring that number way down further. Read my post again, ops dependent. But even then, 60% reduction isn’t 200%.

[analog sparrow]

You probably don't even know how effiency research works. 200% efficiency is translated into 33% of the total costs. The more efficiency research you already have, the less improvement in costs. As a G5 player you've round about 200% material effiency from basic research. Another 200% from the prime means you'll reduce the cost to 20%. So in conclusion the prime speeds up progress in G3 and G4 significantly and also helps in G5.

[edgy harness]

And as you add in fleet commanders and bajoran favors and artifacts it goes lower. Again, what people see and crap their pants over in 200% efficiency, isn’t. And it just gets less effective the more other things you have access to.

In other words, read what the blap I write and not just try to white knight a crappy prime.

When you already have 500% plus or similar reduction, by your own little graphic, adding in 200% more really doesn’t do as much as people will think or hope for. But Scopely will never ever give people their real time reduction to show how actually bad some of those primes and researches are.

Diminishing returns, it’s literally in your graphic, genius.

[analog sparrow]

You're right about that. All i wanted to say was that it can be worth for a player below OPS 40 and can speed up the progress significantly. For a high G4 or a G5 player it's probably an uninteresting prime.

[crude sandal]

Thing is, people go "It's a 200% reduction, but it's not really"... how are they expecting it to work if it's not the diminishing returns/efficiency approach, it's not like the game is suddenly going to pay you materials for doing research (well, outside of events...) 😂

they even put the "expected" values in the patch notes this month (I actually liked that touch)

[edgy harness]

Reductio ad absurdum doesn’t excuse purposely misleading text on high dollar one off items. Same issue exists the other direction with buffs.

How many prime hull boosts are there now, paired with all the other hull increasing researches and artifacts and favors and forbidden techs? How many say 400%? How much do they rely on people being bad at math to sell to many a “400% increase” that results in a 4-5% actual buff?

Being purposely misleading and relying on people not willing to do the math or able to doesn’t excuse blap practices.

Most mmos will put it right in the perk what the ACTUAL changes are, not what the theoretical in a vacuum ones are.

[gray hawk]

#WhereAreScopely

[thorny root]

1 ever? Like it doesn’t refresh?

[tepid bramble]

See this scopy, this is correlation. I see no reason to engage in that dead content. I am in a bracket now with 61+, and my dollar and mats have devalued. This is the FIRST time since it’s inception that I have not completed a weekly event. They say the rest get easier. Thank you for helping brake my habit of your time sink.

[edgy harness]

Correct. One open and that’s it.

[dense reef]

This game sucks ! Glitches are bad ! Wrong ships going out ! Crashes ! Mines turning pink ! Rewards are slow ! Get it together Dopely !!!

[thorny root]

Well that’s super lame, why even offer it if just for 1

[tepid bramble]

To whet your whistle. Some folks cannot stand to see just ONE bp. Their OCD will drive them to do whatever possible to get the rest. To include spending. Star Trek tends to draw out those with such proclivities. And Scopy has plenty of PSYOPS running and better psychologists than programmers on staff. They are evil man.

[crimson stream]

top spot is a g6, the g5 players are just fodder. they never had a legit chance to compete

[thorny root]

I’m twitching…I can’t need to get BPs….I think it’s working. However they’re not too smart, not even offering it to me at that point.

[cosmic knoll]

im unsure, if scopely knew about human behavior beyond the roadshows about how to make customers spend in game ... they would have higher revenue! sure unhappiness promotes spending but it also promotes customer shrink, happiness can promote less spending but higher retention of customers which is better in the long run. unfortunately, the roadshows only focus on game sthat last 1-2 years, so they tell scopely to squeese as much as possible as fast as possible. and this is what we got ...

[edgy harness]

Because they are on a different model: squeeze as much out of the player base with as little work on upkeep, let the game collapse on player base before it collapses from crap coding. Close game down. Spend a few weeks to kludge it back together into halfway working, rerelease as stfc 2: the respendening,

[tepid bramble]

Ahhh, but you see, they didn’t WANT the game to last this long. Think of it like BSG, by season 3 they were like, “hell, what do we do now?” Scopy wanted to milk and bury this title and move on, but the fan base they found (like Star Wars pre Disney) is fiercely loyal. And rabid as hell. Now scopy is trying their dangest to knock us of like Snoop Dog swiping fleas off his junk. The cure is also the death of this game. Whales need to stop paying for every dang shiny scopy puts in front of their face 🙄. Especially at THESE price points.

[cosmic knoll]

scopely is a basement company, they got no idea. they 'paid' for the ip and need to recover that cost. thats why the monetisation is so high now. but instead of making players happy to continue to spend over the next 5 years, they rather make players unhappy and spend over the next 1 or 2 years because there wont be a g7 ...

[merry tiger]

Just wasted a token going here FSEP-505, can you fix this pls...

[vale wasp]

I've escalated this, but you should probably file a ticket with CS. #👽-how-to-contact-support

[crimson stream]

what an absolute joke. total clown show

[tepid bramble]

I will be genuinely surprised if we see a 6th anniversary. Not that we would really miss much, I mean this 5th has been an absolute goat rope 🙄

[cosmic knoll]

ive yet to see any epic officer 'free' like in previous celebrations

[harsh thunder]

Not a fan of this syndicate xp sms.

[thorny wing]

Where are Hero events?

[tepid bramble]

Too funny. I didn’t even finish the sms. In fact maybe only 35, maybe 39 (not sure, lot of lvl disparity in my bracket, goes up to 62) actually did. See, that is what I call a fail. Scoply obviously went and played themselves on this one. I only dropped TWO places in the last half hour. TWO! Which means folks where like screw this. Because I didn’t put one point up.

[tropic crown]

No events for you.

[tribal bane]

Broken like everything else this arc 😂

[edgy harness]

Apparently the arc runner that rev was …. Working…. With over the weekend for his stream said they want recruit events to be much harder and people shouldn’t always finish them.

You know, after Eco spent a couple months crowing to anyone who would read it that he feels like he helped improve officer sourcing for everyone since he got involved in the processes.

[tepid bramble]

Well I have been saying for some time that scopy as a whole are a bunch of deceitful miserly, greedy gits. 🤷‍♂️. Why should those two be exempt? It’s like they don’t understand that happy customers actually spend more. Honestly, you hide stuff from me with impossible goals, (especially with Scopy’s track record) and it doesn’t make me want it more, it makes me think there is something wrong with it and you don’t want me to find out.

[earnest granite]

What 5th anyway? There was literally 0 happening in the game with regards to it.

[timid ice]

Xactly. Tbh, if things were a little more cost sensitive we'll say, I'd be more inclined to throw a few bucks at the store. But hell, I'm waiting for them to charge 100$ just to LOOK at the store. That is of course, after I have to wait for a day timer to elapse. 🤣

This is the only game I've played, where it feels like even the damn timers have timers lol
(Sigh. As I wait for the 5 min timer to elapse to even post this about timers 🤦‍♂️)

[potent shard]

This is really messed up, something that was done for free is now a rare ticket event, are you kidding me????

[random nexus]

Has Scopely given up on fixing the Voyager mining systems and territory takeover times? There’s been no updates or explanations to the situation. Please let us know when you’re expecting to repair these issues. @tacit obsidian

[haughty fjord]

Don’t forget the missing rewards from trivia and didn’t they say compensation inc.? 🤣

[sacred crane]

5 shards for 90 tickets? Sign me in. 😂

[vale wasp]

The FSEP issue is high priority. They will fix it.

[vale wasp]

You should contact CS if you didn't get your trivia rewards. I've seen posts here that they've been processing those.

[raven kraken]

So I guess there's just no way to complete all three rare ticketed events? Complete all nine uncommon ticketed events for just 10 rare tickets? And you can't even buy rare tickets.

[tepid bramble]

Why would you want to? These things are insulting

[onyx mulch]

Rare ticket events don't pay out G5? Seems like an oversight, given that the regular tickets do

[mint flame]

WTH scopely we where suppose to be able to get the cube before this event ended

[edgy harness]

Ops dependent most likely.

[onyx mulch]

Ops 51. I'm getting g5 common and uncommon in the normal ticket events, but only g3 and g4 in the rare ticket events

[tepid bramble]

They do, but then I am now ops 54, not sure what it is for less.

[edgy harness]

You can’t refine rare yet so I’m betting they locked it to within a grade of what you can refine. Would also explain arch not getting epic mats from 5*

[onyx mulch]

Rare ticket vs uncommon ticket. I'm not even getting common or uncommon

[tepid bramble]

Not without paying for it, no. This is standard for scopy this last year or so. When the Stella/Vi’dar first came out, we were given the ships in time to do the events. Scopy learned that was just to nice and not greedy enough. So they switched it up on us.

[rotund tulip]

WTF?!?

[paper jackal]

Their evil knows no bounds. Some poor noob sap is going to fall for that. Just strait up theft.

[last nest]

thats just a pack so they can say that is standard material to the 3rd party money management, and claim their other packs are a “deal” ,”sale”

[thorny root]

I’m still wondering when are we going to use the 5 year tokens we’ve been getting for a month…probably never

[willow raven]

Why haven’t you fixed the voyager systems? Where is the still missing compensation of syndicate Xp and bajoran credits for the dailies that couldn’t be completed due to your game’s issues?

[odd basin]

Bravo Scopeley 👏👏
I've been paying for the Elite pass for quite a long time and... Not anymore 🎉
Why? You planned the Build the Borg Cube event to end right before the Elite pass gives the Cube bps to build it 😂
Bravo 👏

[compact silo]

@tacit obsidian how about instead of adding so many unnecessary things, you guys actual update the officers that are givien in the officer packs, there are so many new officers that we can't even get shards for cause they are not in the packs

[willow raven]

Why would anyone buy FT when they’re just going to severely devalue that purchase in a month? Clat is reduced from 50 pts to 10. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/532723090380292097/1173727444973404180/Screenshot_20231113_155313_Star_Trek_Fleet_Command.jpg?ex=656501dd&is=65528cdd&hm=994c0c115630b22201ad143ae05ad990df7271b9df84534379148d08dafed81b&

[tropic sphinx]

The Build the Cube event is "HEROIC". It's not HEROIC if you are patient and wait for the bps through the battlepass. The HEROIC is looking your wife in the eye as you tell her you spent $99 on the borg cube AND the battlepass.

[tepid bramble]

Yet another reason I have seen no reason to invest in anyone of the dang things. Get them free? Sure, pay for them? Not a snowballs chance down under.

[tropic sphinx]

What level are you? Because CLAT is still 50 points for me.

Also ... I didn't get the FT because of Lat Rush... I got it because my hunger for CLAT is ridiculously high.

[willow raven]

They nerfed it for folks with the whip based on my alliance chat

[tropic sphinx]

I have the whip.

[bitter flicker]

Game is utterly unplayable on acer chromebook. Crashes literally every 1 to 2 minutes after clicking or doing anything

Heck even just sitting idle it crashes

Crashed easily 50 times in the past hour, literally any time I try to do anything the game just closes

[mild fulcrum]

Lol, said who?

[exotic tangle]

Mine randomly completed tonight without building the cube

[rich elm]

so far this arc is a big disappointment, at times I'm wondering why I even bother opening the game ... events leave a lot to be desired, and most are tailored for spenders, the few ones where non paying players had a chance to compete in are nerfed to a point where its not even worth trying ... bugs after bugs after bugs that are never resolved ... and so on

[gray hawk]

Oi! Lol

[edgy harness]

Set a 30 day delete the game and after a few days see if you even miss logging in.

Edit: They gave a few out in the past

[rich elm]

uhm,, but im not buying that either 😄 ... since there is no 30 day shield you can get

[chrome vortex]

What is this doing here? First it should only show up based on ops level if you're going to still have it which means it's going to be up to like ops level 10 maybe. But it's a useless pack why is it in the store?

[rich elm]

click bait for those whales that don't pay attention

[chrome vortex]

Somebody's going to tell me it's necessary for the game economy. I just don't think that they understand good will includes customer service and treating your customers i.e. players with respect.